Tim Lutze: Is this mic all right Katie? Not covering my face?

 

Katie: No, no, your face is fine.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: Do I look fat?

 

Katie: [words unclear]

 

Graham Connolly: Oh, for God’s sake!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, but then it doesn’t want to go over that way. It keeps coming back. [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: This is exactly how I thought it would be.

 

Graham Connolly: Just keeps going back.

 

Tim Lutze: These are clamps [mic stands].

 

Graham Connolly: See, now when I turn here, it’s not. As the sound is not as, …

 

Katie: Yeah, exactly! More towards you, but, like, not right in front of you.

 

Graham Connolly: I need to be able.

 

Katie: You have way more room to go back more.

 

Graham Connolly: As soon as I do it. And you said, … Okay. There. It’s fine.

 

All right, all right. These producers, man! She’s just a producer, rapper. Like Kanye!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: I should get royalties for making this happen.

 

Graham Connolly: Offered money and then didn’t give me anything.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: Got it wrong. Got milk.

 

Graham Connolly: Oh, you got milk.

 

Tim Lutze: Arrow Kit Kats.

 

Graham Connolly: All right, fine. Yeah, the Arrow Kit was good. The Arrow Kit Kat was good.

 

All right, well, I’m here on episode one of the Offally Offensive with a very special guest.

 

Tim Lutze: Thank you. Welcome. Thanks for having me.

 

Graham Connolly: It’s Tim Lutze! How are you, Tim?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, good, good! You?

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, good. So tell me. Tell me every single thing about you. Every single thing since the time you were infant. No, no!

 

Let’s start with your teenage years. What got you into. You’re a boxing coach, yeah?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. I started boxing when I was 14. I’ve always been interested in boxing. I wanted to start much younger, but I was getting in a lot of trouble at school, …

 

Graham Connolly: Fights?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, fighting. And we had a family friend that was a professional boxer. And at about eight years old, he was trying to convince my mum to take me to boxing.

 

Graham Connolly: You know that energy.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, to get that energy and discipline, but she wouldn’t have it. And I was kicked out of a few schools and suspended from a few different schools.

 

Graham Connolly: What were you kicked out of school for?

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, fighting. And I was always a bit disruptive in class and fighting. I just had a lot of energy. Watched too much Dragon Ball Z maybe, but, …

 

Graham Connolly: How old are you now?

 

Tim Lutze: I’m 34.

 

Graham Connolly: 34?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Middle aged.

 

Graham Connolly: So what age were you when you got kicked out of your first school?

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, that was grade four. Grade four. Me and a friend who I’m still in contact with graham Connolly: In St. Albans?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. We left together. Went to the same different school together and ran amok there. Got like, suspended in, like our second week. And this just continued into high school. By the time I reached high school, my mum had basically given up and just conceded to our family friend to let me do boxing. And I went down to Footscray Youth Club when I was 14 years old and I walked in and started training, and I wasn’t a big fan of the skipping and all the running and boxer [word unclear].

 

Graham Connolly: You wanted to spar.

 

Tim Lutze: I just wanted to punch people!

 

And so I was watching the sparring and there was two really light guys in there, maybe 60 kilos. And I was pretty big at 14. I was trying to play rugby as well. And they were like jabbing and running away from each other not to the usual way that I was used to fighting. So I walked up to the coach and asked him if I could get in and he laughed at me and called me an idiot! And I just kept asking him every day for about two weeks and finally said:

 

“All right, if you think you’re ready to spar, we’ll put you in.”

 

And I put on set of gloves and mouthguard. I jumped in the ring with a guy that was probably 15 kilos lighter than me. And just started swinging, just throwing from the hip. Missed everything! He was, went for about 30 seconds. He jabbed him about three times. My nose just started pouring blood.

 

And as soon as I could walk him towards the ropes, I grabbed onto him and we ended up on the floor and everyone jumped in, and I was kicked out of the gym for a week. But the experience really did humble me.

 

Graham Connolly: Good gentlemanly conduct!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Basically he pulled me out of the ring. He was very old. He was kind of like Mickey from Rocky, you know, ended up being like a real father figure for me.

 

So I was from single parent family, you know, low income. And he guided me through my teen years and taught me a lot of discipline.

 

But the first discipline was that day, where he pulled me out of the ring and said I’m not welcome at the gym for a week and that if I continued to behave like that, he would have me black banned from every gym in Victoria, which he was the Olympic coach at the time and the State coach.

 

Graham Connolly: So he could.

 

Tim Lutze: He could definitely do that.

 

[05:30]

 

Graham Connolly: What changed then? Did you change? Did anything change in you?

 

Tim Lutze: I wouldn’t say that day changed. I was humbled from a little guy just jabbing me and I had no answer for it. But I still was a little bit cocky.

 

Graham Connolly: And you were like:

 

“In the street, I’d kill him!”

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, that was the attitude. But like, the guy, he was from Sunshine and he was older, but like that’s kind of like a very low class sort of area as well. And he was from around the way, so to speak. And I’ve ended up becoming really good friends with him.

 

But I came back a week later and he pulled me into the kitchen, the coach, that is, and he said that he’ll tell me when I’m ready to spar and not to ask him or the same thing I’d be kicked out. And to train and when he thinks I’m ready, he’ll let me know. So I trained every day for like six months. I ran in the mornings. I watched all five Rockies, you know, watched all the boxing. You know, like back then was like Mayweather, Dela Hoya.

 

Graham Connolly: And that would have been impressive to a coach that time, man!

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, not really, no! I think boxing just attracts those types of people. But I don’t know why, I just fell in love with boxing and the whole culture of it.

 

And so I, after six months, I jump in the ring with the same guy and he was only training once or twice a week and I trained every day and I’d done all that and run and diet and did everything I could. So we started sparring and within a minute and a half my nose was bleeding and by the end of the round of, my shirt was just covered in blood. I didn’t land a punch. He wasn’t even going hard. He was just picking me off, just jabbing. And I kept my temper and I didn’t, … And I got out of the ring and I was just fighting tears, just had all that water under my eyes! And I was just, the coach said:

 

“You can’t, that’s it, you’re done!”

 

Because there was blood everywhere and I was a bit argumentative. And he said:

 

“Don’t argue, you did good, you kept your cool. I’m happy.”

 

And he just asked me:

 

“Why you’re so upset?”

 

And I said:

 

“I just trained every day for six months and like, I didn’t even land a punch.”

 

And he just said, like:

 

“That’s not what it’s about.”

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, nice.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, he goes:

 

“He’s not better than you or more skilled. He’s more experienced.”

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So I was ready to quit that day.

 

Graham Connolly: You understand all that now?

 

Tim Lutze: Now I do, yeah. And I was ready to quit that day!

 

Graham Connolly: But you’re not a quitter.

 

Tim Lutze: No, no, I’m not a quitter. And fighting, I’ve always been attracted to violence and to fighting, for better or worse. But obviously, what’s, …

 

Graham Connolly: The most natural thing in the world!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: From the dawn of time.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Obviously we don’t have a culture where it’s like, okay to fight and we don’t really promote wars and we don’t really promote warriors. You know, the closest thing to promoting violence now is like, and what was back then would be like the Sopranos and the Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad, where you’re always rooting for the bad guy and the toughest guy gets respect!

 

So obviously all the warrior inclined youth are going to go towards those sort of things.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, and that’s exactly what happened in my case when I was young. Without boxing, a lot more people, or any combat sport, and we’re talking like 2004. So UFC wasn’t really a thing in Australia back then, but boxing was.

 

And I just think boxing has saved so many kids from just becoming violent criminals.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: I know it gets a bad rap sometimes, but, like, that’s the way I see it.

 

But yeah, I did it. I trained every day and I sparred every day. And because my coach was the Victorian coach, we have the State team there every month for a while. And I got to spar with some of the guys, some of the Olympians, you know, one of my friends back then went to Beijing and Olympics and you spar, did some rounds with him.

 

Graham Connolly: And can you remember when you had your first moment where you actually enjoyed sparring, where you landed a punch, where you landed it, where you had some success?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, Before I get to there, I’ll just finish what I was saying, was that I sparred every day and I was sparring very experienced fighters the whole time. And everyone in the gym had fights back then, and I was the youngest. I was 14. I was the kid in the gym. And 12 months goes by and I hadn’t won a single round sparring. So my coach comes to me and he says:

 

“I’m gonna put you in for a fight.”

 

And I was like, scared! And I’ve never been scared to fight, you know, And I was, …

 

Graham Connolly: Like, this wasn’t a fight in the street where you just milled.

 

[10:24]

 

Tim Lutze: No! You don’t have to try to fight in the street. You don’t train for it. Like it just happens. And it’s adrenaline and it’s fun and you know, like, if you’ve got a good crew, you sometimes you don’t have to worry about going one on one and you can win a fight, [chuckling] you know, in dishonourable ways.

 

But this is something that I did every day for 12 months. This is something that I eat, breathed, slept I practiced discipline for. And the thought of doing all that training and losing just was, filled me with anxiety. And the fact that I was sparring all these fighters that had 20 fights and 30 fights and then now I’m fighting like somebody. And I just didn’t feel like I’d ever really had a good spot, like won a spar. And my coach sort of snapped at me because he’s an old, grumpy dude. And he said:

 

“You’ve been sparring boys that have been fighting!”

 

He’s like:

 

“I know you’re ready! You trust me. I’m a coach. I’ve been coaching for 60 years!”

 

Or I think it’s about 50 at that time. But I was with [word unclear] for a very long time, I think around, …

 

Graham Connolly: So from his perspective, you were going to go up against somebody of a similar skill level? Been training for years.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. That’s what he explained to me.

 

And so I said:

 

“Okay.”

 

And I was very nervous and I had my first fight and I won it!

 

Graham Connolly: How did fight go?

 

Tim Lutze: It was messy. I was hitting the pads, warming up, and everyone was saying how crisp and good I looked and the punches were straight and I was moving my head. And then the fight started, … And I had the video, like the VHS, but it got thrown out when we got rid of all the VHS’s. So, it’s a shame. But like, even if I had it, I wouldn’t show anyone because I was 15 years old and I was just throwing punches like I was doing freestyle in the swimming pool!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: It was just adrenaline. And back then, 2005, or I think it was, every punch was a score.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So I won the fight by two points. So basically two punches. And they did, you know, later on when they were doing the scoring, they moved it to where like they would not be so candid giving out the scores. The scores used to be high, but then later on they changed the scoring so that you had to be really clear when you land a punch and you’d have low scoring fights. But like you’d see fights that were like 20 something to 30 something, back then.

 

So like two punches in 2005 is like not much at all! And yeah, that’s basically like my first 12 months of boxing. It was just a roller coaster and it just humbled me and gave me a sense of morality and purpose and discipline. And I recommend everyone put their kids into boxing.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: But the first time, I don’t really have a point where I really started to win a spar.

 

Graham Connolly: Well, that’s a point though. You win a fight!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it’s a different, …

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, so that’s a point where you realise, I love this!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: How old were you?

 

Tim Lutze: I was 15 and I had half a dozen fights before I was 18.

 

And then I had a kid!

 

Graham Connolly: That’s where I was coming to next.

 

Tim Lutze: So, yeah, I got my missus pregnant when I was in high school.

 

Graham Connolly: How old were you when she fell pregnant?

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, 17. Yeah. And then that sort of put my boxing career on hold.

 

Graham Connolly: How did you feel when she told you?

 

Tim Lutze: It was terrible! It was terrible. Like family said that we’d ruin our lives and all this. It was very taboo back then. And from where I grew up, …

 

Graham Connolly: How’d you meet? [chuckling] How’d you meet Beck?

 

Tim Lutze: She’ll tell people that we met through friends. But I had a pretty big friend circle growing up and I used to have these garage parties in my garage.

 

So, yeah, I like to tell people we met in the garage. But she’s a classy lady, so she’ll just tell people that we met through friends.

 

Graham Connolly: In the garage!

 

Tim Lutze: In my garage.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. At a garage party! And what did you look like then?

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, well, I did have like a dragon tail, like a rat tail. One of my favourite fighters was Costa Zoo. So, yeah, I just kind of grew my tail out like his and that.

 

But yeah, I was fighting and I won a State title as a youth. And then I kind of like around 17, 16, started like drinking and partying with mates. I never did, I never did drugs or anything like that. Never even, never even smoked weed and that thing. But like all my friends would do everything and but like I was always protected by them because they’ll be like:

 

“Nah, he’s a boxer, he doesn’t do that shit!”

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, so like I had really good, loyal friends that like that. And just like some of the stuff I seen growing up, I was kind of scared of that sort of thing,

 

Graham Connolly: But you met Beck.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And then the stork brought you a baby in a bundle!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. And like I said, I was partying a lot in that time and I’d gotten in trouble with the law. And my missus was pregnant and it was just like a normal west Melbourne story of, …

Graham Connolly: Do you want to talk about the trouble you got in with law, or do you want to just skim over that?

 

[15:57]

 

Tim Lutze: No, no.

 

Graham Connolly: It doesn’t matter, does it?

 

Tim Lutze: No, it doesn’t matter. It’s just degenerate stuff. And yeah like I grew up and, …

 

Graham Connolly: Just typical rough neighbourhood stuff, really.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, you just grow up and like I said, if you’re warrior inclined and all you really have is that culture, like I said the Sopranos and like underbelly here in Australia and even in the boxing you get to rub shoulders with organised crime figures and stuff that sort of make you feel strong. And that’s all you really have. They don’t really promote a warrior culture here.

 

And I think like that’s what one of the things I love that we’re doing now that if you want to be a hard man, if you want to be strong in a chad, you join the NSN! You fight, you’re a warrior for your people.

 

Graham Connolly: You’d be a political dissident.

 

Tim Lutze: Well right now it is. We won’t always be. But like fight for your people. Fight for your children and your grandchildren that aren’t even born yet. What, do you want to fight for some drug traffickers or sex traffickers or whatever? You know, ride around on your bike.

 

Graham Connolly: Ride around your bike, sell drugs, sell women.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, you know, so.

 

Graham Connolly: Or do you want to protect your people? You want to protect your tribe? Do you want to protect your, …

 

Tim Lutze: What other warrior culture is there in this country? Or any Western country? It’s like, you want to be a tough guy, the only way to do is, …

 

Graham Connolly: Be a gangster!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. You don’t even have your John McClaine or your Lethal Weapon cops anymore. You got your rainbow lanyards!

 

Graham Connolly: Exactly.

 

Tim Lutze: And I was a big fan of MMN and gangster rap and all that sort of stuff. So it’s like you, …

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, it’s glorifying that rather than glorifying a warrior culture.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, that’s right.

 

Graham Connolly: Like the Romans or the Greeks or whatever, the Spartans.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, even popular culture, like movies, there’s the dumb jock and the bimbo Stacy.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You know it’s not a sign of strength to go and be good in class and be smart and intelligent and study history and, …

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, you have to kind of stumble into that world, don’t you? Because that’s the underbelly.

 

The real underbelly is the political dissidents. The NSN, White Australia!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. So, you’re not even through pop culture, encouraged to do that sort of thing.

 

Graham Connolly: No.

 

Tim Lutze: You’re just encouraged to do almost anything to not be a strong, smart warrior.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, exactly! So we’ll get to that. But so you ended up, baby at 18.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: You were still, … Where I’m trying to get is, you were still boxing. Boxing coach. Eventually, you started your own gym, though. What led to that? You started your own gym. What led to that?

 

Tim Lutze: Well, I did get a lot of time off boxing, and I got an apprenticeship and got through my legal stuff and I got, …

 

Graham Connolly: That’s right, your apprenticeship. You’re a boilermaker.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. A fitter and turner by trade. But I got through all that stuff and I had my daughter and I started boxing again and got on my feet and I got my own place. And I got into coaching. Because I’d put on a lot of weight and I was embarrassed, and it was too hard to train seriously, doing an apprenticeship and trying to deal with a daughter.

 

And we were still normies back then. We weren’t some trad family. Beck was trying to be independent woman, and I was trying to enjoy time, trying to mix time with my mates, having parties, having fun with the baby. And work and apprenticeship. So there wasn’t a lot of boxing going on for three, or four years or three years.

 

And then I started boxing again in 2012, had a few more fights.

 

Graham Connolly: How old were you? 21?

 

Tim Lutze: 21, yeah. And Beck and I decided that we needed a sibling for our daughter, that we didn’t want to be too far apart.

 

Graham Connolly: Not a surprise that.

 

[20:13]

 

Tim Lutze: No, it wasn’t a surprise. We understood that we were young. We understood that I was still an apprentice and I was trying to box. And I was fighting again, and I entered the state titles and I got through the first round. And you fight week by week when you’re in the state titles to draw.

 

And so I was into the semi-finals. And the week before the semi-finals because it was two weeks apart, my son was born. And then basically I was like trying to cut weight and there was a week before the fight and he was waking up for feeds and I was trying to go to work, because we’re living pay to pay. We had $20 to spare at the end of every fortnight with an apprentice wage, our own place and all that.

 

Family support physically, but our families don’t come from money. So it’s like everything we did was like we did ourselves with little help from our parents. And they helped where they could. And they always supported us, but it was still hard.

 

And so I basically went to work and I just called up my coach and I was like:

 

“You’re gonna have to pull me out. I can’t make weight. Like, I can’t stay up all night and go to work.”

 

And so I hung up from there. And I drove straight to the servo and I got a meat pie and an ice break. And just filled myself up with dopamine because I was so full of cortisol! [chuckling]

 

That was the same thing. Then I got a new job at a really big company and all this sort of stuff. And the career really took off, and I was focusing on my two kids. It’s very hard to train every day when you have two kids. Very hard. But I’ve always trained. Like, I’ve trained three days a week, four days, but not enough to fight. Not enough to diet and fight and travel around Melbourne to spar at other gyms.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And all that sort of stuff. My coaches was getting into his 90s at this point. So I ended up buying my own house. And renovating, and doing all the nuclear family stuff and, …

 

Graham Connolly: Normie maxing!

 

Tim Lutze: Normie maxing. And then once I bought my house and it was renovated and I was happy and comfortable, I was in the right place to have a few more fights. So I had a few more fights in 2017. And then after those fights, I was coaching. There was a lot going on at the youth club I was at.

 

My coach had gone into a nursing home and he was the president for a long time. He was the head leader. You know, it was fascism. It was his way! And once he went into a nursing home, the committee, …

 

Graham Connolly: The committees!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, committees. So a group of vultures is called a committee. And he was the head of the committee. But he was the one person in charge.

 

Graham Connolly: Tom Sewell loves committees, doesn’t he?

 

Tim Lutze: No! No, he doesn’t!

 

Graham Connolly: [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: But yeah, he was in charge. And once he went into a nursing home, all these vultures took over the committee. Most of them were women and very feminist and used proxy voting and all these things from like, I’m not going to go into it, but, …

 

Graham Connolly: Beginning of the end.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it was beginning of the end. So it came to the point where they wouldn’t even let us open it up on Sundays because of regulations and all this stuff. And they wouldn’t let a spar if we had, … They were just making up rules because they just basically wanted to turn into a box fit club and not a, … And they’ve done this in Sunshine and other suburbs with youth clubs. They’ve basically pushed all the fighters and the boxers out and turned them into these box fit things for women in yoga pants or whatever.

 

And so we were training at just a commercial gym every Sunday and sparring and I’ll set up these big sparring days and we a couple time we had some guests come and some former World Champions and stuff come and watch the sparring. It was very funny, just in a commercial gym.

 

But after that we would get coffees and stuff and then there was a big group of us and everyone was telling me to open my own gym and I was saying:

 

“Nah.”

 

Graham Connolly: So you were a coach yourself at this point?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I was a coach. Been a coach for a while, since Olivia was born, and I put on all this weight and my coach rang me up. This is the longest I didn’t train for. It was about six months. The longest I didn’t train for since I was 14 years old, was when she was born and all that. I was in a dark place. And he rang me up after six months and he said:

 

“Come back to the gym, mate.”

 

And I said:

 

“Nah, I’m fat and I’m embarrassed.”

 

And he said:

 

“Don’t be a bum. Just get to the gym. I’ll get your coaching licence.”

 

So I coached for a few years after Olivia was born. And then while I was coaching, I’d started sparring again and I was end up beating up the fighters. You know, these fighters were doing things, they were winning big fights and then he just pulled me aside again and said:

 

“Again, stop being a fucking bum. You’re beating these guys that you shouldn’t be. So start fighting.”

 

So that’s when I started fighting in 2012 again.

 

But anyway, so I stopped fighting and I started focusing on trying to build this gym. And in 2019, we opened this gym, and everyone convinced me and got behind me and it was awesome! We hit the ground running.

 

Graham Connolly: What was it called?

 

Tim Lutze: Legacy. Legacy Boxing Gym. And we thought of all these names to call it, and we sat around the table like a committee. And I’m not very creative. I’m not very articulate or creative.

 

So I was just asking everyone, I said:

 

“Go away for next week, come back with 10 names each and let’s see what we should call it.”

 

And we came up with all these weird names and people were saying, like:

 

“Oh, why don’t you call it Lutze’s Boxing or Tim’s Boxing?”

 

And what I said was:

 

“I don’t want my name attached to it.”

 

[25:51]

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: I’ve seen it. I’ve seen coaches do that and they’re like, “Team, whatever”. It’s like the coach’s name here, it’s like coach Smith, and it’s got “Team Smith” on the back, like these guys using their fighters to promote themselves. You know, it’s not something that I’ve ever sort of appreciated. But if people want to do that, that’s on them.

 

But it’s not something that I want to do. I want my fighters to do their own thing.

 

So one of the guys said to me:

 

“It’s really hard because it’s going to be about our coach, our coach’s legacy, and it has to be about our legacy going forward.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yeah, it is hard. I don’t know what we can call it.”

 

So I just said:

 

“Leave the names with me.”

 

And we came back a week later and I said:

 

“I’ve got it. I know what we should call it!”

 

I said:

 

“We call it Legacy.”

 

And then the guy that said he leans over to me and he goes:

 

“Did I accidentally come up with that?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yeah, you kind of did.”

 

So we all got together and I told him the name and I said because it’s about the legacy that was passed on to us from our coach and now the people that helped us get where we are. And it’s about your legacy going forwards. So everyone comes to the gym and creates their own legacy.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, legacy doesn’t belong to everyone. Your legacy belongs to you.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, that’s nice.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. The way you train, the way you eat, you sleep, will determine what your legacy will be.

 

Graham Connolly: Your legacy! Yeah. That’s nice. It doesn’t matter how many people you have in your gym, how big it grows, each individual has their own legacy to build. That’s cool.

 

Tim Lutze: And throughout boxing, what I’ve noticed, you know, from walking into Footskill Youth Club, a smart arse kid, and getting humbled and then starting my own gym and helping people build their own legacies, it made me realise that the lessons that boxing bring to life, like they’re comparable. You know, like boxing is a metaphor for life. You know, you can’t play boxing, you can’t sit on the bench when you’re tired, you can’t pass the ball to your teammate. And that’s how life is that’s how it should be anyway.

 

So how you train is how your fight’s going to go. You can’t cheat!

 

Graham Connolly: You can’t cheat.

 

Tim Lutze: You can’t do it easy. You can’t cheat on the bag. You can’t cheat when you’re skipping.

 

Graham Connolly: You can’t write the answers on your arm.

 

Tim Lutze: Nah, you know, yeah, you can’t cherry pick. You can’t stand in the goals and just kick it in, be a Striker.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You’re everything in the ring. You’re the defender, you’re the offender.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, and you control the pace or the pace controls you.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And you’ve got to deal with it. So boxing is just a good metaphor for life, and that’s what I’ve always found.

 

Graham Connolly: And there’s still some teamwork to it, like in training and stuff like that. But when it comes down to it, …

 

Tim Lutze: Nobody ever has success getting to a fight by themselves!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, exactly! So there’s still that aspect of teamwork, life, too.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: You got to be able to work with, …

 

Tim Lutze: You need guys, …

 

Graham Connolly: But then you still got to be able to do your part, your thing, and then that’s what the fight itself is, isn’t it?

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You need guys to train with, to spa with, to hit the bag with, to tell you to pick it up.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You don’t need to have twenty fights to tell me that I’m dropping my hands or I’ve got my chin in the air or like, I’ve seen people, they’ll be like:

 

“You can’t tell me what to do. You’ve only had one fight or you’ve had no fights or whatever.”

 

Like, it’s either my chin is in the air or it’s not. And so I would have young guys, I’d be sparring, another gym, would come, or a lot of the young guys would like to go to other gyms with you just to watch.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: And I used to as well. I used to go with the older guys and watch them spar. They’re going to spar with some big names. And you come to the corner and your coach or your cornerman’s there. And then I used to look at the young guy or whatever and say:

 

“What am I doing wrong?”

 

And they’re just like:

 

“Oh, what are you asking me for?”

 

“You know, you can tell me if I’m keeping my chin in the air or whatever.”

 

And sometimes they give you good advice.

 

Graham Connolly: Sometimes they do. Even, like, I grew up, playing soccer was my game back at home, and I grew up with guys that were never very good at it. But then they had a really good head for it.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: They had a really good head for the tactics. Really good head that could coach it really well, you know?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: So it’s not always the best fighter that makes the best coach, not always the best player that makes the best coach.

 

[30:22]

 

 

Tim Lutze: But we started the gym 2019 and three months later, we just got put into Covid lockdowns for two years.

 

Graham Connolly: Oh, lovely. Brand new gym!

 

Tim Lutze: We were in the building for three months before Covid happened. But as quick as we’re in the building, the gym already had two fights, two wins.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, nice.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, two weeks before Covid. So we got in the gym, we built it. I was training the boys as we’re building it. One week we’re slipping on slippery concrete. The next week it was polished and covered so it had grip, and we’re drilling bags on the walls and they’re hitting bags and yeah, so we managed to squeeze two fights in and it was locked down for two years.

 

Graham Connolly: And what did you do during lockdowns?

 

Tim Lutze: We trained!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. Was no fighting, was there? Was there no competition?

 

Tim Lutze: There was not for a year, but after a year, you’d come out of lockdown for like a month. And the fights had never been more busy. Somehow everyone been training. And everyone would put their fighters in and then they would have a card. Sometimes there were two cards in one day in the morning and an afternoon card, all the way into like seven o’clock at night. Just because there were so many people that wanted to fight. But everyone trained. I closed for about a month thinking that:

 

“Oh, it’s two weeks, they’re going to lock down for flatten the curve.”

 

And then you realise that it’s total bullshit! I think most of Victoria realised, oh, no, actually there were a lot of retards!

 

But yeah, I realised after a month it was bullshit! And I messaged the boys, said:

 

“This is what it is. Let’s go back.”

 

And it was only the very inner circle that was training and keeping it quiet for about until about six months. And then I was like, at that point, you’re like:

 

“We could lose everything, or we could just start training again and risk losing everything.”

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, what’s the difference?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, so I just told them, word of mouth, bring anyone you want, train. And like, we were never more busy than Covid, especially the end of Covid. Like, no one in Victoria gave a shit!

 

And then word of mouth just spread and it was just the gym was packed and yeah, that was a busy day. And then everything opened up and everyone started doing things again.

 

So it was like a quiet period after Covid. It wasn’t like we opened up and everyone was there. It was actually the reverse. We can go to restaurants!

 

Graham Connolly: Crazy, isn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. But, …

 

Graham Connolly: That was around, 2021?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, 2021, 2022. And, 2022 the gym had about 30 something fights. And we had three guys on the state team and I got a position as a State coach on the youth team.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: And yeah, the gym was just flying!

 

Graham Connolly: So you got positioned as the State coach on the State youth team?

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And how many coaches on the, … What does that entail?

 

Tim Lutze: So you go, … I can’t remember. It’s about every three weeks.

 

Graham Connolly: Who are you coaching?

 

Tim Lutze: You kind of coach the whole group. There’s a lot of coaches because you’ve got to think that it’s a rolling tournament, the nationals. So you have to have two coaches in the corner for every fighter. So like you’re warming someone up, there’s two other coaches warming someone up.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: There’s two coaches in the ring warming someone up. And then there’s a head coach.

 

Graham Connolly: And you’re still running your own gym, Legacy?

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So every three weeks you go to a different sort of, …

 

Graham Connolly: And you were still working?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, still work full-time. I’ve never, …

 

Graham Connolly: Still had two children.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Yep. Still had two children. And that’s where Beck really came into her own. And she just supported the house, supported the gym. And we were just able to, … And the kids. It was the happiest we ever were.

 

Graham Connolly: Just really found your feet.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: Look, we used to go camping every weekend before I had the gym. And I don’t think we went camping once, once we had the gym, but the kids, everyone were all happy. We loved camping. And during Covid we were camping in the gym and doing all sorts of fun stuff!

 

Graham Connolly: So you’re busy. You were doing this thing as a family.

 

[34:38]

 

Tim Lutze: For one of the kids birthdays during Covid we messaged a couple friends and we rang like a jumping castle guy to hire a jumping castle. And he was so happy to hear from us. He hadn’t had business in months. And we asked him if he’d be willing to bring it into a factory and keep it quiet and all that. And he bought us the biggest jumping castle and it was so cheap, and a free fairy floss and all this. And we just had this indoor party inside the gym. Yeah, it was really good! But we were so happy.

 

And we had a few fights during Covid. My boys had to, had to change organisation during Covid because some of them, well, some of them got vaxxed, but some of them didn’t want to get vaxxed. So I didn’t get waxed and so I was encouraging them not to. Some of them did for whatever reason. But they were training and they wanted to fight.

 

And if you switch organisations in Victoria, you’re basically black banned. It’s like a no, no, you do not switch organisations. They’re very militant about that.

 

So I went to the other organisation because the one, the association I was in, which is the Olympic Boxing Association, they said that they cannot fight:

 

“No, without vax they can’t fight.”

 

So I said to the boys.

 

“Your career is not over. Doesn’t mean we can’t fight. We’ll call the other organisation, we’ll check.”

 

And we rang them. I was open and honest, I didn’t lie. And I told them the deal and they said:

 

“All right, they can come and fight.”

 

So we went fight and one of my boys won the State title in that league. Which was awesome! It was an awesome moment. And he actually did it like in a country town against the hometown guy. And the crowd was rowdy as! And they were drunk and they were hitting the ring, …

 

Graham Connolly: How old was he?

 

Tim Lutze: Around 18.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. Nice.

 

Tim Lutze: Around 18, a young guy.

 

Graham Connolly: That’s intimidating for an 18 year old, man!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. And these guys were hitting the ring. The ref had to stop the fight a few times to tell the crowd to calm down. And he was just picking their boy apart.

 

And then after the fight it was like they were sort of pushing me, shoved me on the back like drunken. And it was like two police in there, just shitting their pants just:

 

“Like what are we gonna do?”

 

Two country cops like on the walkie talkies.

 

And then as the fight ends, my guy lifts up the guy’s his opponent’s hand and thumbs up the crowd. And the crowd loved that! And they just thought he was cool for that.

 

And then he got the decision and he won. And they kind of like, cheered him a little bit. And yeah, and we got out of the ring and they were like, slapping me on the back, like really hard! Like I was [chuckling] just like:

 

“Yeah, thanks.”

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah! [chuckling] It was good in the end.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it was good. It was good.

 

But then, yeah, we got the call from the Association, threatening, saying:

 

“Why did we do it? Why did we go in the other league? Blah, blah, blah, you know, why?”

 

Graham Connolly: You know why! You try to force my boys to get vaccinated!

 

Tim Lutze: I told him I didn’t want to, that I’d grown up in the association, that I know in all the committee in the association since I was a boy. And I did grow up with these men.

 

Graham Connolly: You were being diplomatic about it. You could have just told them to go, …

 

Tim Lutze: And so, yeah, they sort of said:

 

“Well don’t do it again, whatever.”

 

Like this is when everything opened up, and I was just questioned off the side. It wasn’t too official. But after that it was just fight, fight, every single week. You know, one of my boys had 11 fights in 12 months.

 

Graham Connolly: What!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. And he made the State team, went national.

 

Graham Connolly: Nice. And geez, you would have been proud.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I was. And so after that, they still made me State coach and that, because I had grown up in there. And the president of Victoria was my coach before he went into the nursing home. So I had really close connections with the coaches and the committee at Boxing Victoria and Boxing Australia.

 

Graham Connolly: This kind of leads us into the heavier stuff, doesn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it does. So everything was perfect. My job was good, …

 

Graham Connolly: In the background, though, you are, …

 

Tim Lutze: I had the nuclear family, I bought my house, I had my business, and everything was perfect, …

 

Graham Connolly: But in the background Covid as well.

 

Tim Lutze: No.

 

Graham Connolly: No, it wasn’t, was it?

 

Tim Lutze: No, Covid was over.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, Covid was over. But during all of this you are, like many of us, you’re being exposed to a different set of politics.

 

Tim Lutze: Yes. So that was my boxing journey. My political journey started like most Australians and Americans, I guess, was like around, 2016, 2017. You know, 2016, I was like watching the Trump campaign and Gavin McInnes and Ben Shapiro, …

 

Graham Connolly: Ben Shapiro and fucking, …

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, that was my 2016. And I was a, I would say a nationalist. Like, I wasn’t civic. I’ve never been a civic nationalist. I’ve never thought that a piece of paper makes you Australian. Very few people think that.

 

Graham Connolly: Nobody thinks that!

 

[39:51]

 

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, very few people think that. And especially where I’m from, nobody thinks that.

 

Graham Connolly: Nobody believes that shit!

 

Tim Lutze: And so I never believed that. But I got into that 2017, I started my red pilling process, and I don’t really remember how it kicked off. But I had like a work mate that was telling me about the financial system, it’s run by the jews and World War II is a bit of a lie, and gave me some revisionist history. And I was very sceptical about it and I’m like:

 

“What about that Spielberg movie?”

 

Graham Connolly: And like, you have German, … So one side of your family’s German? One side English?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Anglo.

 

Graham Connolly: So they fought each other World War II?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. So both my great grandfathers were in the war and they both, … Well, my Anglo great grandfather was stationed in Japan and my German grandfather was in the Wehrmacht. But you know, it was a brother war, but they didn’t really fight each other. So my German side, they look at it as like a dark history of our family. My grandfather grew up in Germany and he went to communist schools and he took the trip to Auschwitz every year. And so indoctrinations in our schools are probably only starting to reach the levels they were in communist Germany.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. So like up until this point in your life, you hadn’t even really heard out the German side of the story.

 

Tim Lutze: No! Like it was something you don’t really talk about as a German.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, exactly! You don’t talk about.

 

Tim Lutze: No. You don’t talk about it.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, it’s a real dark part!

 

Tim Lutze: And it’s always brought up to you. Like soon as people, …

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, people bring it up to you, but you don’t want to talk about it. You just got an aversion to the subject.

 

Tim Lutze: And the people are like:

 

“Oh, you’re German. Heil Hitler!”

 

And then you’re kind of like:

 

“Oh, no, Hitler’s actually Austrian.”

 

[chuckling]

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You try to distance yourself.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, it’s like not racist thing.

 

Tim Lutze: So I was doing the revisionist history and that. And just getting all the normal red pills that you get, like David Irving and Ernst Zundel and you know, like, yeah, I just took that path and I watched the Greatest Story Never Told. And then around, 2018, Europa came out. I watched Europa. And I was depressed! I remember watching it. I was depressed.

 

Graham Connolly: Fucking right, man!

 

Tim Lutze: And I was telling everyone! And everyone thought I was crazy!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, I was trying to tell my mom and my family. They’re all just like:

 

“What’s wrong with you?”

 

I just found out this secret, this lie, and you want to tell everyone and you just start speaking, …

 

Graham Connolly: It’s the same story, it’s the same journey for everybody that comes down this path, isn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it is.

 

Graham Connolly: Where you feel like:

 

“I’ve just found this out! We have to wake everybody up. We have to tell everybody. Everybody has to notice!”

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And it’s futile, isn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: And as this is going on, I’m having my struggles at the youth club with feminism and all these things like, attack on masculinity in my boxing gym. As if these two things were kind of related.

 

But I was really distracted with the boxing gym for a couple of years. And then, like trying to set that up. And then Covid hit. And then I knew who the enemy was!

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: Like, Covid showed me who the enemy was.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: And I was really down during Covid when I couldn’t go to the gym and we weren’t training properly and like it was a long time. It was a long time. It feels like it wasn’t, but it was such a long time. And we started home-schooling, and I really loved that.

 

Graham Connolly: Did you check the “early life” of all the pharmaceutical company CEOs? [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: Early life? What’s that? [chuckling] But nah. So, yeah I was in a dark place.

 

And then, like I said the gym started opening up. And everyone started fighting. And I just immersed myself in the boxing, because that’s all I’ve ever done. And like I said, everything started going for me. I had every reason to just go back asleep.

 

Graham Connolly: Gaslight yourself!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. After the blue pill!

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: And just run my gym. Become Australian coach, go to World Games!

 

Graham Connolly: Had you read Mien Kampf?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And looking back on it now, didn’t he have a very similar journey where he kept taking the blue pill as well? Again, we all have a very similar journey. Where we basically gaslight ourselves, give ourselves the blue pill just because it’s easier!

 

[44:49]

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I remember reading it and how much it made sense, and, … It didn’t, … I was actually underwhelmed by it. Yeah, I thought it was like this thing, like it’s banned!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You read it and it’s like completely grounded!

 

Graham Connolly: A really reasonable guy that thinks like I think, like it’s all based in certain natural law.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, like I had this thing, …

 

Graham Connolly: That was like common sense! Yeah, he’s a common sense patriot.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, he’s a common sense patriot.

 

Graham Connolly: That’s right.

 

Tim Lutze: But yeah, so like I tried to distract myself with that stuff and everything was going for me and I had a good crew at the gym and you know, good inner membership. And 80% of my members knew about my views and we’d throw Romans in the gym and crack jokes.

 

I always say, there was one guy that I grew up with since I was 15 in boxing that I wasn’t honest with. He was actually a police officer, and we were completely different ideology. We’d have debates and that. But yeah I kind of regret not being honest. But I knew if I was honest with him I’d lose the friendship. Which as soon as I was doxed he had a key to the gym. He basically cleaned his locker out and left the key on the reception and left. And he’s never, never spoke to me and I never heard from him again.

 

Graham Connolly: Nice. Fuck! Hurts when that shit happens. But yeah, you knew that was going to happen though. That’s the funny thing about it.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, he definitely would have like not been surprised when he found out just because all the jokes and the Romans. But like I wasn’t honest with him and he was a friend of mine.

 

Graham Connolly: But like I mean there’s a way saying, you’re not honest with somebody is like who really is, … Just because of your politics is almost like you have to expose, you have to tell people, you have to be honest with people about your politics?

 

But most people don’t even talk about politics!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: We grew up with the never talk about religion, never talk about politics, never talk about money. That’s what we grow up with in the West.

 

Tim Lutze: Well that’s the problem though.

 

Graham Connolly: That’s a hundred percent the problem! Absolutely is the problem! But then for you to say though that:

 

“Oh, I wasn’t honest with this guy!”

 

It’s kind of like but who is nowadays? Nobody talks, …

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, in hindsight.

 

Graham Connolly: Like Westerners anyway.

 

Tim Lutze: But yeah, if I was honest he would have left anyway.

 

But yeah, I did pull all my inner circle aside and say that and we were following everything that was happening, …

 

Graham Connolly: Was you actually, after us talking about getting doxed now. But we haven’t even got to any, doxed for what, Tim? [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: No, well, this is what I was just saying. I was still so empty. Everything was perfect. The house, the dog, the kids, the business, the full-time job. And every weekend in a different location for fights and country fights and traveling over the state and interstate and it was gonna start going overseas. So I had every reason to just do that and I don’t regret not doing it time but I wish I wasn’t doxed, maybe if I had 12 more months in the boxing world, it would have been interesting.

 

But yeah, so I was empty, and my missus knew I was empty. Because I had this dark cloud. I had this dark cloud in my mind and just yeah this the world on my shoulders. And I thought about doing a lot of things, and I was kind of looking at the time they were developing active clubs in America.

 

Graham Connolly: Rondo [sp]

 

Tim Lutze: And yeah, I thought maybe I could do something like that.

 

And I did notice the NSN sort of come up on the project and these other news sort of a Current Affair shows and I thought that’d be, that’d be good too. But I did start following them and I started following, you know, Tom, Jacob, not Jacob. Oh yeah, Tom and Jazz CB, Hard Knocks and yeah. Just trying to think how I could get in contact with them and, or if I should get in contact with them.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And this was probably at the start of 22 and we know boys are fighting. I’m still distracted and but I’m still empty. And so then, … Tom went to jail!

 

Graham Connolly: Do you reckon that it was just something that was like:

 

“Fucking, I know this stuff and I have to do something about it!”

 

Tim Lutze: Yes.

 

Graham Connolly: I need to do something about it!

 

Like I have to fucking do something about this! I can’t just sit idly by and not do anything.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Tom went to jail during Covid. And then I thought it was kind of over like as I was thinking what to do during Covid because I was considering, … That was when, during Covid is when I was considering, …

 

Graham Connolly: That was when Tom Sewell?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. So during Covid when I was thinking about doing the active club thing, I was trying to think how could I do this? You know, because I’m from a very multicultural part of Melbourne and my gym was pretty multicultural. Where I live it’s just not possible to not be.

 

[49:51]

 

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, but plus that’s not what your gripe is with anyway, …

 

Tim Lutze: No, no.

 

Graham Connolly: It never has been for as long as I’ve known you.

 

Tim Lutze: So yeah, my gym wasn’t like a White gym.

 

Graham Connolly: No.

 

Tim Lutze: And you never, it never was planned to be. I was just trying to build an active club that could be.

 

But you know, the gym was never planned to be that. And it was never the goal. And so you know, we’re in Covid and Thomas is in jail, and I thought:

 

“Oh, that’s all over. That was kind of fun. That could have been something.”

 

Then Tom got out of jail and it was a little bit quiet for a while. I still thought it was over. I was just happy he got out and all this. But then some pictures started emerging and they were training and they were doing things and they organised a fight day. And I was thinking of attending that fight day but then I actually remember we had some fights on that weekend. So I ended up not like doing that.

 

But then Jimbo got stabbed in the neck. Jimbo Roberts got stabbed in the neck. And the cops didn’t seem to be investigating him.

 

Graham Connolly: Okay.

 

Tim Lutze: And that was it! That was like the straw that broke the camel’s back.

 

Graham Connolly: In the middle of Melbourne where there’s CCTV everywhere. Where you couldn’t fart without getting Arrested!

 

Tim Lutze: You were in the Org. [NSN]

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, I was in the Org.

 

Tim Lutze: I didn’t know that. So you were actually there. So you know all about that. And so I’m watching this from the outside and I was, …

 

Graham Connolly: The cops know who stabbed Jimbo in the neck.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, right.

 

Graham Connolly: They do. Let’s be honest. We know well they know. There’s no way they don’t know.

 

Tim Lutze: We can get in the cops later. I’ve got a lot to say about them! [chuckling]

 

Graham Connolly: But just in that particular one, they know who stabbed him. There’s no way you can stab somebody in the throat in Melbourne and not be on CCTV.

 

Tim Lutze: No, it’s like London. There’s just cameras everywhere.

 

Graham Connolly: Cameras everywhere.

 

Tim Lutze: So Jimbo was stabbed in the neck and he was in a coma for about two weeks, I believe.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And in his two weeks I was really angry! And I was and my missus just had enough. She could see the torment that was happening the conflict inside of me. And she just said:

 

“Just join! Just contact them or do something. Do something. Because you can’t keep living how you’re living.”

 

Graham Connolly: And she knew your, …

 

Tim Lutze: I would talk to her about everything!

 

Graham Connolly: So she’d seen all this stuff as well, and she’d seen The Greatest Story Never Told, herself?

 

Tim Lutze: No, no, no! She’s not like that. She calls it her “bubble”. Should stay in her bubble.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: I’ll be like:

 

“Oh, the Holodomor!”

 

She’s like:

 

“I don’t need to know that!”

 

She calls it her bubble. She wants to live in her bubble. So I try not to burst it.

 

Graham Connolly: But it’s awesome that she didn’t doubt you or anything. She didn’t even know about it, but trusted what you’re saying, what you believe and what you’re saying is right.

 

Tim Lutze: We’ve been together since high school, so she’s 100%.

 

Graham Connolly: She just knows.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, she knows. And she knows I’ve always provided and done everything. So she’s, …

 

Graham Connolly: She’d know you have a bit of a sort of a purity to you.

 

Tim Lutze: And she knew what was going on, and I was explaining it to her over the years from 2016, we’re in 2021 now.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And so Jimbo woke up and she’s like, encouraged me to join or “to do something” was her words.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep.

 

Tim Lutze: So I messaged Jimbo and said:

 

“Hey, mate, I’m glad you’re okay. I’ve got a gym if you boys want to come and train. Feel free to message me back.”

 

Graham Connolly: Beginning of the end of Legacy.

 

Tim Lutze: It was almost straight away, like, he messaged me and he said:

 

“I’ll speak to the big guy, or the big man.”

 

And then I was like:

 

“Oh, I know what that means.”

 

So I think it was like less than a week later, you know, him, Nathan Bull and Tom just walk into the reception at Legacy. And had the family there and took him through a boxing session.

 

Graham Connolly: And yeah, Nathan was in his early days then, too. Nathan was a bit soft in the belly and not very mature.

 

He’s a different man now, isn’t he? [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: He is. Like, I’m not even allowed to talk to him. That’s heartbreaking. Yeah, I’ve had a very close relationship with Nathan. He’s grown so much since I’ve joined. And I’ve tried my best to guide him. I hope that I’ve contributed to the man he is today because he’s a very staunch man!

 

Graham Connolly: I hope so, too. And you definitely have.

 

Tim Lutze: And loyal, and there is no situation that he wouldn’t have your back.

 

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Graham Connolly: And you’ve seen it before. Even Tom’s seen it. If you remember. If you remember back, like, he, …

 

Tim Lutze: He used to annoy the shit out of Tom.

 

Graham Connolly: Yo! Oh! And you can understand why! Like, it wasn’t, …

 

Tim Lutze: If looks could kill, we wouldn’t have Nathan.

 

Graham Connolly: No. We wouldn’t!

 

Tim Lutze: He would blurt something out. And Tom would just, …

 

Graham Connolly: But a little bit of guidance. His loyalties is off the charts!

 

Graham Connolly: Nah. Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: Like, he’s just grown so much. And he’s a father now.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, and beautiful little girl.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: It’s just amazing, his transformation. It makes you realise what we’re doing. And I’ve seen it in the boxing gym and like people come in. You know, you get all types in the boxing gym, and people think that you get, … Not everyone’s a rough nut. Like, a lot of people start boxing because they’re not. Because they get bullied.

 

One of my best fighters at Legacy, he started because he had to leave different schools because he was getting bullied. And even when he was State champion, you know, he was in year 12 and he’s State champion, and these things were still happening and, …

 

Graham Connolly: Crazy!

 

Tim Lutze: And I just told him, like guys in the gym, it’s a rough area. So some of the other older guys in the gym were:

 

“I know, we’ll come down to your school.”

 

And I said:

 

“Just don’t. I’ve been there. Don’t do it. He’s almost finished school. Let him finish school. And then he can just worry about his boxing career or whatever it is he wants to do in life.”

 

Because it escalates! It escalates. And it was only words. It wasn’t physical, but like, yeah, he’d go to school and he could waste anyone he wants. But in areas that we grow up in, a fight doesn’t end once you bash someone.

 

Graham Connolly: No.

 

Tim Lutze: You know, that person has a cousin.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep. That’s the beginning.

 

Tim Lutze: These people are brown and they have cousins and friends.

 

Graham Connolly: And if you can’t beat you with these.

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, yeah, most of them can’t beat you with those. That’s why you’re gonna get stabbed or.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So it’s like. Yeah, it was best just to let him do it.

 

Graham Connolly: He’s mad as a bat. [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: I can see it.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: But, yeah, so then I messaged Jimbo and then, yeah, he came down and trained with the boys. I think about a week later, I was added to the chats and Tom sort of put a message in the chats:

 

“I need some guys for something.”

 

And I said:

 

“Oh, all right.”

 

So I messaged him. I was at work, I messaged him and I said:

 

“Yeah, cool. What do you need?”

 

He goes:

 

“I need you to be here at this time and wear black clothing, and bring a mask.”

 

Graham Connolly: So kind of bizarre!

 

Tim Lutze: Well, I thought:

 

“What are we robbing a bank? What have I joined here? What are we doing?”

 

Like, I don’t think there was a rally before that.

 

Graham Connolly: Because I actually couldn’t get to that one. Yeah, so that would have been awesome! Even though I was a part of it for quite a while at that stage, we hadn’t done a rally. Yeah, we’ve just been training and training. And actually, I met you before that because you did train on a Saturday before that.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, that’s what I meant. So that was during the week.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. You came to the park on the Saturday.

 

Tim Lutze: On the Saturday, Yeah, I was added to the chats and so I think it was that week. It was within seven days, roughly. Yeah, something like that. Right? Oh, no, maybe it was. Yeah, Saturday to Saturday. I think they came on a Saturday, it was like, Grand Final.

 

Anyway. Yeah, a week or two weeks. And then I get this message at work and so I was like:

 

“All right!”

 

And, yeah, there was a tranny in a park dancing for little children, and they’d seen it the day before, and they just impromptu rushed and made this our first rally and so, …

 

Graham Connolly: Demon flesh.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I rocked up there and none of us were in, …

 

Graham Connolly: So it was basically one of these Drag Queen Story Hour type events, wasn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, it was like, … And these were unheard of in Australia. Like there were a thing in America, but I don’t remember one before that. But they were very quiet. Even this one was quiet. And the only reason that I believe they found out about it is because one guy lives in the area and he’s seen a poster.

 

Graham Connolly: Yep. It was this weird satanic shit!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, some tranny.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: That staples shit to itself on stage for, does adult shows.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. And they were doing this for children.

 

Tim Lutze: Not stapling.

 

Graham Connolly: But this was especially for children.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, this was especially for children in the park.

 

[58:37]

 

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So I rocked up there and Tom and Jimbo were standing there. There were some other boys around in the park. I was aware that they were there. I didn’t know who they were, or didn’t meet them.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And so Tom’s like:

 

“Did you bring a mask?”

 

And I stopped at the servo [gas station] and I got a black Covid mask. You know, like none of us were in matching black block. It was so ghetto! Yeah, we just ploughed along the field. Police tried to block us. We sort of pushed our way through and then yeah, there was the first rally. And we were in all the news and the papers.

 

Graham Connolly: And if anyone is watching this, look it up. It’s the Belial B’Zarr, I think it was called. Belial B’Zarr. Where was it? Moonee Ponds*.

 

[* Moonee Ponds is an inner-city suburb in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 7 km north-west of Melbourne’s Central Business District, located within the City of Moonee Valley local government area. Moonee Ponds recorded a population of 16, 224 at the 2021 census. Moonee Ponds is home to Queens Park and the Moonee Valley Racecourse. Wikipedia]

 

 

[The group of men staged the vile protest at Queen’s Park, unfurling two banners. One referred to Drag Queen Belial B’Zarr as “Demon Flesh” while another read “Drag Pedos Groom Kids”.]

 

Yeah. Moonee Ponds. The NSN went to protest in a park and there should be good videos. Go watch it.

 

Tim Lutze: Maybe someone can link it in the comments section or something. And then I was hooked! I was hooked. I had done something, you know, where I felt like I did something.

 

Graham Connolly: I was less than 10 minutes away, standing on the roof of a hospital that was currently under construction, trying to get away. And I had a photographer there that I was taking around.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And he cost like two and a half grand a day. And this was like 12 o’ clock.

 

And I was like going:

 

“You got enough!”

 

I was like literally just trying to get him to go, but he was like one of these guys that he’s dedicated to his job. I just wanted to get away so I could come and join you, but I couldn’t.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And I missed that day. So I wasn’t hooked yet!

 

Tim Lutze: But, yeah. And then I was hooked and I just started training Saturdays and all that.

 

And yeah, I guess that brings us to the doxing.

 

Graham Connolly: So we start using Legacy, didn’t we?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Well, we used Legacy one month and then we’ll go the next week we’ll go somewhere else and stuff.

 

Graham Connolly: Legacy was still Legacy? It was still Legacy, but you were welcoming of us.

 

Tim Lutze: So you was welcome to train with my guys and all that.

 

Graham Connolly: Which we did.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, you did. It wasn’t a Whites only gym or anything like that. And the majority of my membership, I had notified I was joining and I told him I was joining and especially the inner circle.

 

Graham Connolly: Most of them had no problem with it.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, no, no! And some of the boys who lived in the West would come and train at the Legacy sessions.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: And we’d still fighting and some of my boys would fight, and the EAM [European Australian Movement] would come down and watch and support my voice.

 

So there’s a was one card at the Croatian Club where all the boys came down and we filled up a couple tables. And yeah, it was good. It was a really good day for me just to, …

 

Graham Connolly: That traitor dog John Setka* was there. I was like fucking burning a hole in the back of the cunt’s head!

 

[* John Setka is a former Australian trade Unionist. Until 12 July 2024, he was the Secretary of the Victorian-Tasmanian division of the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, and Energy Union for 12 years. The Victorian-Tasmanian division administers the South Australian division under a temporary arrangement. Wikipedia]

 

Tim Lutze: He is the head of the CFMEU Union, the biggest union in Australia. He was, he’s actually stepped down because of all these organised crime links or whatever.

 

But yeah, boxing’s full of that. Yeah, it’s full of organised criminals and stuff like that, associated with boxing. It always has been. I think in most countries it’s a thing.

 

Graham Connolly: What did they have in the lobby? It was in the Croatian Club, wasn’t it?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I believe it’s still there. They’ve got a statue of Ante Pavelić*, the fascist leader of Croatia.

 

[* Ante Pavelić-Croatian fascist general and military dictator (1889–1959) Ante Pavelić was a Croatian politician who founded and headed the fascist ultranationalist organisation known as the Ustaše in 1929 and was dictator of the Independent State of Croatia, a fascist state built out of parts of occupied Yugoslavia by the authorities of NS Germany and Fascist Italy, from 1941 to 1945.]

 

I think me and Tom took a photo in front of it that night. I don’t think we ever posted it. I wasn’t doxed then. But yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: So how did you get doxed?

 

Tim Lutze: Well, Tom was going to hold a national fight competition and I offered my gym and I really wanted it to be hosted at my gym. I thought it would be an honour! And Tom agreed. So we did. I think it was the first national fight competition ever, it would have been. And we did it at Legacy. And we set the ring up and we had a food and music and everything. And it was our first nationals and we all fought each other and yeah, it was a good day! We had a barista.

 

Graham Connolly: Fantastic!

 

Tim Lutze: But, yeah, and then a few videos and stuff got posted from that and photos. And Internet sleuth sort of matched the gym with mine. And it was always going to happen because a lot of the State coaches and a lot of gyms have come down to my gym for sparring. Like we were on every fight card in 2022, every fight card!

 

Graham Connolly: Somebody was gonna do it.

 

Tim Lutze: There were dozens of people at every fight walking around with Legacy Hoodies and that sort of stuff. And which meant that a lot of gyms would come to our gym for sparring and we’d go to theirs. So it probably wasn’t very hard to have the gym doxed.

 

I underestimated the power that the doxing had. I kind of thought it would get doxed and, …

 

Graham Connolly: It would just die off or whatever.

 

Tim Lutze: Not die off, but I thought that I was ready for the heat.

 

Graham Connolly: You got heavied, though, because you had a gym.

 

Tim Lutze: Because I was a community person.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: I’ve grown up in Footscray. Well, I’m not from Footscray, but I grew up training in Footscray and I had my gym in Sunshine. I was very established in the boxing world and I was on the State team. And hopefully I was being groomed to be on the Australian team as a coach and at the same time, I was thinking about fighting again.

 

Graham Connolly: You had to be destroyed! That’s what that is. Really. That was the approach. A lot of us just get a bit of a doxing, whatever. You might lose your bank account. That’s it!

 

You got it all. Like, they came for everything!

 

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Tim Lutze: So, yeah, they put two and two together and they found out that it was Legacy boxing. And yeah, I thought that I’d be able to talk my way out of it and say that it’s politics, it’s got nothing to do with boxing and all that sort of stuff.

 

But I found out on Christmas Eve actually in the newspaper that I had my coaching licence stripped and my gym de-registered and all this stuff. Like, …

 

Graham Connolly: No hearings?

 

Tim Lutze: No, nothing! Just taken. And all my membership were like:

 

“We’re going to stick by you.”

 

Graham Connolly: That’s the association. Boxing association?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. So Victoria Amateur Boxing Association. It was actually Boxing Australia, that did it. So President David Pike of Boxing Australia actually did it.

 

 

Graham Connolly: All right. Really?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: Wow!

 

Tim Lutze: So it’s all the way up and so, …

 

Graham Connolly: So you were as a State coach on your way to be probably an Australian coach.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: And not only are you not going to be a State coach anymore, but you’ve lost your life, … Somehow, you’re now incapable of teaching people how to box?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, I’m not allowed to.

 

Graham Connolly: Somehow your politics means that you can’t, you like, I don’t know, you lost the skill to teach boxing or some shit?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Everyone knows if I was an Aboriginal nationalist it wouldn’t have happened.

 

Graham Connolly: If you were any other nationalist!

 

Tim Lutze: You know there’s an Aboriginal gym in Fitzroy.

 

Graham Connolly: And why shouldn’t there be.

 

Tim Lutze: Well, I don’t have a problem with that at all!

 

Graham Connolly: You didn’t even have a White only gym!

 

Tim Lutze: But why shouldn’t I if I wanted to?

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah. You just welcome the White only group to your gym.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: So my fighters, some of whom which were non-White, …

 

Graham Connolly: You didn’t ban any other races to the gym?

 

Tim Lutze: No, never. No, no.

 

Graham Connolly: Where any of them treated badly by pro-Whites, …

 

Tim Lutze: The thing at the gym was like people would come and they’d be like:

 

“Oh like this guy, he’s a White nationalist or whatever.”

 

Like some of the boys would joke around and then be like:

 

“Oh really, what’s that about?”

 

And then we’d talk about it with new members, whoever. It doesn’t matter.

 

I’m always an open book. And I never denied it. Even down the track when I had my meeting with Boxing Australia, I was very honest about it too.

 

Graham Connolly: You know yourself mate, the only people that care are the White Lefties.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: The other races don’t care. They understand it.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: They put their own tribe, …

 

Tim Lutze: That’s what I found in my gym.

 

Graham Connolly: They put their own tribes first?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: Their own people first. Who doesn’t?

 

Tim Lutze: My thing was if you don’t have a problem with it, you can train here.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Tim Lutze: If you’ve got a problem with it, find somewhere else.

 

Graham Connolly: Exactly!

 

Tim Lutze: You know what I mean?

 

Graham Connolly: But you’re welcome.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: But that wasn’t good enough.

 

Tim Lutze: It wasn’t good enough. No. So you have to, … Yeah, they took my licence and that was devastating!

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: Also, what else did you lose? Bank accounts?

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, that was later on. It’s kind of like they waited to see what I would do. Like it didn’t happen all at once, it was like six months later.

 

Graham Connolly: Right.

 

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Tim Lutze: So first that happened and I laid low, but I laid low for a month or whatever.

 

Graham Connolly: Deal with it!

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, like, put a little distance between these things before you deal with them. You know, let the fire go. Because everyone’s messaging Boxing Australia and:

 

“This guy’s a Nazi!”

 

And everyone’s doing this, Let that shit die down and people realise that it goes away. It doesn’t continue. But, yeah, they publicly came out and they said that:

 

“Boxing Australia is not this, and we condemn this.”

 

And like, I had Sting come out and condemn because they kitted out my whole gym and worked with me to set it up. And so they came out and they did a statement saying that they denounced me and all I stand for and all that.

 

And it’s like, what’s it got to do with boxing equipment? Yeah, so I let all this stuff sort of die down before I started to deal with it. But I kept training, kept doing the thing and a couple of weeks my membership and my fighters stuck around, but the heat didn’t die down straight away. And when they seen it wasn’t a die, they put their careers first. Like, there were ways that I could have got someone else to be in their corner and I could try to do this and that. But they did what was best for them and they went to another gym. And they never denounced it, but they never publicly supported me and said:

 

“Oh, he’s not an angry Nazi that wants to genocide everyone. Rah, rah, just a normal bloke, whatever, has his own views. They don’t necessarily have to share them.”

 

But like I was a bit disappointed that no one sort of publicly or none of my associates in Boxing Victoria sort of even took that into account and said:

 

“Well, you, what he does is his business.”

 

Graham Connolly: How easy would that be like?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, but I did have a lot of people come to the gym. A lot of older, you know, old fighters and some coaches and some very prominent fighters message me privately, support, and even come visit me.

 

Graham Connolly: Name every one of them! [chuckling]

 

Tim Lutze: No, not, I’m not naming, because some of them are very active.

 

Graham Connolly: No, I’m just joking mate!

 

Tim Lutze: And some of them are highly ranked fighters and well respected coaches as they should be. Yeah, I’m not going to do that to them.

 

Graham Connolly: No, I’m just joking.

 

Tim Lutze: But yeah. [chuckling]

 

Graham Connolly: If you did, just the fact that they came to your gym and supported you, what would happen to them?

 

Tim Lutze: No, they’d lose their licences.

 

Graham Connolly: They’d lose their licences.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. Some of them have a lot of power. Yeah, some of them are quite powerful.

 

Graham Connolly: I mean, only if this was to go like viral or, you know what I mean? If this was to be seen by thousands of people, they would, …

 

Tim Lutze: It would go viral if I named them!

 

Graham Connolly: If you did. It would!

 

Tim Lutze: If I name their names, it would go viral.

 

Graham Connolly: And then the phone calls that start happening to Boxing. Victoria again.

 

Tim Lutze: Oh, yeah. And I don’t blame them.

 

Graham Connolly: Crazy!

 

Tim Lutze: We’ll be the vanguard and we’ll make it safe for everyone to have our views.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah and we’re getting there.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, that was the doxing. It was very depressing. You know, like I took a loss. You know, people don’t know how to take a loss. They try to say everything’s a win.

 

Graham Connolly: You did take it on the chin, though.

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah. I liked being, yeah, I like being part of the boxing community and I like being in that world.

 

Graham Connolly: It defined who you are, for fuck’s sake!

 

Tim Lutze: It was my whole identity.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, it’s who you were. It’s your identity!

 

Tim Lutze: And I decided to identify as a White man and that was the moment.

 

Graham Connolly: Oh, yeah, fuck you! Know what I mean?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah, you can’t do that.

 

Graham Connolly: It was similar like that when I was growing up and stuff like that. Like my first kind of things to understand was like 9/11 was nonsense! And just briefly, I used to speak out about the wars in Iraq, the war in Syria, the war in Libya. And you talk about how Gadaffi wasn’t a bad guy, and Saddam wasn’t about, … And nobody ever said a fucking word to me!

 

But as soon as I start defending my own people, as soon as I start defending White people. Lost bank accounts, fucking etc! Not to the level of you because I didn’t have a public profile like you did. You know, I wasn’t a community man like you were. You know what I mean? So I lost bank accounts. They came from a job too, I reckon.

 

Tim Lutze: You can’t defend White people!

 

Graham Connolly: You can’t defend and look out for your own people!

 

Tim Lutze: You’ve seen coloured people be ethno-nationalists and all this sort of stuff. And then they come out and they defend White people.

 

Graham Connolly: Yes.

 

Tim Lutze: Or they defend Hitler, like Kanye West, or whatever.

 

And then they’re attacked.

 

Graham Connolly: Yeah, it’s not just White people can’t defend White people, nobody can!

 

Tim Lutze: So it’s just up to the White man to fight back!

 

Graham Connolly: White man fight back!

 

Yeah. You know, actually that’s a good point to take a coffee break. You want a coffee?

 

Tim Lutze: Yeah.

 

Graham Connolly: All right, let’s have a coffee. That’ll be part one.

 

Tim Lutze: We’ll wrap it up here.

 

Graham Connolly: Part one. That’s part one. All right.

 

That’s all for part one. In part two, Tim takes us through his footsteps and activism with the NSN, through their pivotal Winter 2025 Nationals event in Victoria, right up to the front lines of the latest March for Australia.

 

You won’t want to miss it!

 

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88talk
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18 hours ago
I’m really looking forward to Part 2. When can we expect it?
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Girnigoe
1 day ago
Hail from America.
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Inevitable1488
1 day ago
Found some vids of the first NSN rally: https://x.com/CJMurrumbeena/status/1575693649345552385 Perfect example of how, if you really want to bring about the change you want to see in the world, sometimes you just have to go out and do something. It doesn’t have to be perfect. All you have to do is start, and then keep at it. Hail victory.
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Sam_Sung
1 day ago
Man. Would be a lot better if you stopped cutting him off mid sentence over and over again
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kalamazoogroyper
1 day ago
Great first ep lads. Hail Victory
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limble
1 day ago
Loved this interview. Tim already came across as a staunch and loyal dude but what a backstory.
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johnnyfartbottoms
1 day ago
Awesome show, I’ve always wanted to learn about Tim’s story. He’s right about needing a warrior class in Australia.
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AmalekAvenger
1 day ago
O/ o/
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TimLutze
1 day ago
o/ o/
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TheShowgun
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1 day ago
We want part 2! o/
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AngloSaxon88
2 days ago
Hail from Scandinavia.
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TimLutze
2 days ago
Hail
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LeighStewy
2 days ago
Patriot
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JohlForbes
2 days ago
Great first podcast Graham, not a bad first guest either haha. No in all seriousness very good and I enjoyed thoroughly. Tim’s an inspiring leader who speaks from the heart and leads from the front.
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TimLutze
2 days ago
thanks brother
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KineticKelticKlansman
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2 days ago
Thanks Johl
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bush_bash_boy
2 days ago
can’t find the video of the nsn rally interrupting the tranny story time, someone help.
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kismet208
2 days ago
https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell/1528?single
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KineticKelticKlansman
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2 days ago
https://t.me/timlutze2/136?single If you have telegram. If not let me know and I’ll see if I can find an alternative.
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sixty5stoney
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2 days ago
Great podcast lads. Perfect idea to get all the guys on to tell their red pill and political journey to show the public that we are just regular men. Family men. Fathers, sons, brothers. Willing to say what we believe needs to be said for the sake of our people and our country.
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EnglandAwake
2 days ago
Good content. Keep at it brother.
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greenyfromoz97
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Good to see another new Natsoc podcast rising! Good to see, also bloody nice set design and production set up (curtains, chairs mic’s etc it reflects you really care) love to see it mate
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Thank you brother. I appreciate that. It will get better too. Thanks for watching. Part 2 is better imo. We get into the juicy stuff.
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High_Energy_Nation
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Brilliant stuff gents. When you are humanised, we win.
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That was amazing lads. Hail Victory!
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Awesome!
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MonThirteen
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Great chat. Didn’t know Tim grew up in St Albans, so did I.
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TimLutze
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Awesome. I’ll never forget were I came from.
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MonThirteen
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My mum only sold up there 2 years ago, it’s definitely not the place it used to be. We now live out in the country where there is less of the 3rd world rejects lol
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Hail NSN, Hail White Australia, this was an awesome first show.
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An Irish Man!!! love the intro one of my favourite songs
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Offaly good discussion!
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A chara. We’re all one now.
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Couldn’t agree more my brother. No more brother wars. Like the crusades we must put aside our differences to fight side by side for the collective tribes of Europe. We can go back to the brotherly bickering later. First we need to save our countries and our peoples.
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Hail Connolly and Lutze! Greetings from distant Canada.
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Hail brother
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Patriots!
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Thanks for having me on. I speak from the heart, I hope I have inspired more people to take up the fight. Hail Victory
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Thanks for coming brother. Great first guest. Thanks for the support. Part 2 is even better.
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Your pronunciation of Ante Pavelic was perfect! I loved hearing your story especially the Footscray connection. I grew up there and It’s a perfect tragic example of where we’re heading if the influx of Third Worlders continues. Thank you both so much. Looking forward to Part 2.
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Za dom spremni!
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The St. Albans Croatian influence is so clear!
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Hail the both of you lads, Hail White Australia
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: We are live. It is The Joel and Blair Show this evening, but at the moment it’s just the Joel show because Blair is having a couple of technical difficulties which is getting sorted now, so he’ll be joining us soon.

 

But yeah, it’s just the Joel show so far. But the past week has been quite something. I think the national rallies on 31st of August was something truly incredible! There was, by my math, over 100,000 patriots marching across Australia with their Australian flags against mass immigration. We haven’t seen anything on that scale in Australia in a very long time. And it’s completely changed the perception, it’s completely changed the conversation. It is now being accepted by a larger and larger swathe of society that nationalism is a serious political force in this country, a force that many thought was dead, many thought was long gone. Well, they were wrong! Nationalism is back and it’s back in a big way!

 

Today is the 7th of September [2025] and yeah, the world saw scenes of Australian patriots marching in every city of Australia, filling up the streets. And these were rallies which were explicitly nationalist coded. They were explicitly pro-White, they were explicitly pro-Australian. They demanded an end to mass immigration. There were speeches given across the country, some by members of the National Socialist Network, including myself, and also some by other figures and across the board. The speeches given at the rally were not just immigration restrictionists, but nationalist in tone. The Zionists were kept out, the conservatives were kept out. There were no foreign flags except for a few annoying people with Aboriginal flags that were humiliated by the crowd. And what we saw was a proper nationalist mass mobilisation, the first of many to come, I hope. And it was quite something, it was quite special.

 

So, yeah, I was just very emboldened to see it. I was expecting it. I was expecting it to be what it was, but to see it actually materialise, to look back, because I was at the front of the march in Sydney, to look back down the street and just see an endless sea of patriots all the way back was quite the spectacle. And there’s a lot to break down, obviously, events all over the country.

 

But then if that wasn’t enough drama, if that wasn’t enough cinema, I mean, what happened in Melbourne was something else. I was in Sydney, but in Melbourne, the NSN literally had to fight their way through Antifa all day to get into the march. In a video that I’m sure you’ve all seen now of the NSN bashing the fuck out of Antifa to get themselves into the march.

 

But then also at the front of the march because there was a series of blockades that were set up on the march route by Leftists, by communists, that the NSN literally had to bash their way through to ensure the march to get to its destination. Then they get to Parliament. They set everything up. They have some brilliant speeches. Thomas Sewell gives an excellent speech with the theme fundamentally that we have to end mass immigration so that we can again become a nation, that Australia is no longer really a nation, that Australia has become this multicultural multiracial soup that’s lost its identity. And this was the assertion of the White Australian patriots that we’re not going to give up our country without a fight! Incredible scenes.

 

Then on their way back from the rally, the boys encountered the Antifa that had been fighting all day who were continuing to harass and attack patriots that were on their way home from the march, going back to their cars and so on. There were actually two patriots, you know, draped in Aussie flags that this horde of communists went down and punched on with and attempted to beat up. And the boys heard about this and where the boys actually parked when they arrived happened to be right near the Antifa staging ground, which was the so-called “Camp Sovereignty”, which is an illegal loitering encampment of communists and Aboriginal activists asserting some kind of Aboriginal ownership over the land or some garbage like this. Now I believe that the people that the NSN fought with at Camp Sovereignty, they were not actually the standard abos that just hang out there. The people that they fought with were random Antifa agitators who they’d been fighting with all day, the same crowd.

 

And so they confronted them. Another fight ensued, another flawless NSN victory ensued. The footage was then portrayed in the media like as if the NSN just went up there and started bashing abos for no reason, which is false. And then many arrests were made, including of Thomas Sewell, the leader of the organisation, who was subsequently denied bail. You know, kind of ridiculous, with a ridiculous reasoning. Because in Victoria you pretty much get bail for anything. They give bail to murderers, they give pet bail to manslaughters, they give bail to people who do home invasions, to people who have machete fights. You can do basically anything in Melbourne and get bail. For them to deny Thomas Sewell bail was egregious miscarriage of justice. He is currently in a jail cell.

 

The feeling in the leadership of the organisation is that we are going to try and do everything we can to get Thomas back out on bail and we will pursue legal avenues once more evidence has been collected to pursue that end. But considering the political bias in the court system, that is not necessarily super likely to be successful. It has a chance of success, but it’s not super likely to be successful.

 

And so as a result, we could be looking at a year, two years without Thomas Sewell. Well in public, he might be in a jail cell for a long period of time.

 

Also, the charges against him are quite serious. Many accounts of assault, violent disorder, other charges. You know, he’s probably going to have to do a shift in jail. So that’s just the reality of the situation. It sucks, but that’s where we’re at.

 

I see Blair is now ready.

 

Hello, Blair. You’ve arrived.

 

[07:12]

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, guys, I’m testing this little microphone thing I have. Can everyone hear me? You can hear me okay?

 

Joel Davis: Yep, can hear you fine.

 

Blair Cottrell: Let me just double check. The audio is coming through, test. Yes, it is. Thank you for having me and thanks for being patient.

 

I’m in a position right now where I’m not set up the way I would usually be, so I’m not running with my usual setup. I was listening to what you were saying, though, and, man, those marches, let me start off by saying, were much bigger than I expected. Huge numbers! Blew my expectations out of the water in every state! What do you think, Joel? Were you expecting that many people? Were you surprised?

 

Joel Davis: It was exactly what I was expecting. I said tens of thousands in the major cities and according to media reports, 15 to 20,000 in Sydney, which felt about right. I would say 20,000. In Melbourne, it looked like just as many. In Adelaide, media reported 15,000. There were big reports in Brisbane and Perth, I think of a similar size. Then there were small rallies in Hobart and Canberra, in Townsville and lots of other towns. Which is why I estimated that the total national turnout was over 100,000 people, which for a grassroots anti-immigration rally that is promoted through social media over the space of a month to turn out over 100,000 people, it shows that the mood of the country is hungry for the return of nationalism and that a new nationalist movement is about to be born in Australia with a serious mass movement.

 

Blair Cottrell: People are definitely unhappy. Yeah, I just breathed in some water when I drank it.

 

But, yeah, people are definitely unhappy. People are definitely unhappy. The march seemed like a success. Do you feel it was a success? Like, do you feel that there was more gained than what was lost?

 

Joel Davis: It was an incredible success. In every conceivable metric, I think. What aspect of it could not be considered a success?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, Thomas Sewell going to jail.

 

Joel Davis: Yes, that. I guess that obviously is a setback, but frankly, the impetus for that was a brawl that occurred after the march was over.

 

So I don’t know if we can chalk that up to being the march. Obviously it was related, but I don’t think that takes away from the march. I think that the march spoke for itself. I think a lot of lessons were learnt. There was a lot of discussion in the lead up to the march:

 

“Oh, well, if the Nazis are there, then the media is going to decry it as a Nazi rally and no one will want to show up and no one will support the rally!”

 

Well, that was shown completely false!

 

First of all, I’ve noticed absolute radio silence from the jews all week. The jews did not attack this rally! The jews have barely spoken about the fact that Nazis were on the stage giving speeches in every major city at this rally other than Brisbane. The jews have completely kept their mouth shut about this rally because incredibly, they’ve shown the sense that it would be a really bad look for them because obviously a lot of the clashes between counter-protesters and patriots, they were between communists and patriots. But the communists obviously stylised themselves in the pro-Palestinian garb. And so there’s this kind of Palestine versus Aussies optic that obviously the jews don’t want to undermine.

 

And so the jews have kept kind of silent about it, even though Nazis and anti-semites were all over this rally, which was quite something. Not all jews have kept their mouth shut, but generally speaking, they’ve been quite quiet.

 

Also the prime minister who came out in the days before the rally pre-emptively condemning it, saying that White supremacists and Nazis were involved and so on. What he then said after the rally was:

 

“Oh, well, there was many of the people, there were good people, and the Nazis just hijacked it.”

 

So he completely changed his tune. Why did he do that? Because the prime minister of this country fears more the normalisation of National Socialism and our organisation than he does mass dissatisfaction with mass immigration, which is mass dissatisfaction with his leadership.

 

One thing that would unite every single person at that rally would be a hatred of Anthony Albanese, the prime minister.

 

And so for him to say that, completely turns everything everyone was saying on its head because they were all saying:

 

“Well, if you guys show up, they’ll call everyone Nazis!”

 

Well, what happened was the opposite. There was this scrambling by not just conservatives where you might expect it, but by Leftists, even. Mainstream Leftists in the mainstream media to distance the rally from the Nazis. And that was quite something to observe.

 

Secondarily, I would say the response of the conservatives was quite interesting, because a lot of conservatives did not want to touch this rally with a ten foot pole. They were afraid to weigh in, they were afraid to back it.

 

And then after they saw it was a massive success, then they tried to all pretend like they supported it the whole time and defend the rally. We saw Sky News basically defending the rally, Liberal Party politicians defending the rally and so on. And what this showed is that it doesn’t actually matter if the Nazis are involved. It doesn’t actually matter how supposedly “bad” the optics of the rally are.

 

[13:10]

 

At the end of the day, the people are still going to come out and they’re going to march against mass immigration and the system will still have to respond to those concerns as legitimate because of the sheer numbers and quantity. And when we do another one of these, the Nazis will be there again and the turnout will be excellent again. And the people will be glad that we are there. Like they were already glad that we were there. When we marched in Sydney with the boys in formation in Black bloc, the crowd literally gave us an ovation as we marched in the NSN was like applauded by the crowd at the beginning of the rally. There’s vision in Melbourne from the boys getting high fives and cheers and so on as they march into the crowd as well.

 

And a lot of the people that went to the rally in Melbourne saw the violence from the Left and loved to see the fact that there were some men willing to stand up and fight to ensure the rally was successful. There were reports in Melbourne that there were fat bitches on megaphones basically cucking out, saying:

 

“No, the Left have blocked off the rally, we have to turn around and go back.”

 

Well, no one listened to them because the National Socialists were at the front beating through the communists to ensure the rally could get to its destination.

 

And then when Thomas Sewell gave his speech at Parliament to a crowd of tens of thousands of patriots, he justified our presence, saying:

 

“I know not everyone here might be as radical as usual, but you need the fighters at the front and we are the fighters. When the Palestinians and the communists came to try and attack us and take the Aussie flags, it was us who fought through them!”

 

And the crowd erupted into enervation [?]. They absolutely loved it when he said that because they saw it with their own two eyes that that was real.

 

And so it was a massive victory, I think, for the NSN, because what it showed was that when push comes to shove, when the patriots need to mobilise, we will be there to facilitate it. And we facilitated it around the country. We did a lot of work behind the scenes to push Zionists, cuckservatives and so on out of this rally, who wanted to water it down, who wanted to turn it into a civic nationalist rally, who wanted to turn it into:

 

“Oh, we’re not racist, we love everyone, blah blah, blah!”

 

Just deprive it of all of its meaning and all of its direction. And we helped ensure that the rally went ahead as planned. And this is our message to Australian patriots. We’re on your side. We will help as best as we can to facilitate your dissatisfaction with immigration because this is our number one issue. There is nothing we care about more than preserving the White majority in Australia. That is literally priority one of our organisation! And we will do everything in our power to physically, politically and so on, protect patriots who want to stand with us against mass immigration, stand for continuing to have a nation, continuing to have Australia for the Australians.

 

And so I think it was a massive success for our organisation to show as a proof of concept the positive role that we can play and that a lot of the naysayers that their concerns were unfounded. And also it was a great show of force from the Australian people that they are willing to turn out in serious numbers on this issue. And I think it could get bigger from here.

 

I mean, there’s talk of another one soon. I know that it’s going to be redone on Australia Day and that could be the big one! I think the turnout on Australia Day could be quite special. And we need to take back our cities from these Aboriginal communist invasion Day, you know, “Fuck Australia” marches that go on in the middle of our cities every Australia Day. It’s ridiculous!

 

Australian patriots should run our cities and should through an expression of national pride on our national holiday. That should be what Australia’s cities look like on Australia Day is a sea of Aussie flags and patriots celebrating together.

 

But it’s going to probably be a fight. We’re going to need people to turn out in serious numbers to take the cities back, because the official Australia Day parades have all been shut down. And last year on Australia Day in Adelaide, we were all arrested for the crime supposedly of waving Aussie flags and celebrating Australia Day with pride. But this year it’s not going to be 60 or 70 of us. It’s going to be thousands and thousands and thousands of us in every city taking our cities back! And I think that could be glorious and that could be historic because that could be really the day where the tide turns in Australian politics.

 

Blair Cottrell: The march for Australia definitely would have just been Israeli flags and explanations from the speakers about why they’re not racist without the presence of White Australia. Are you guys going by the name White Australia now or are you still NSN? How do you address the organisation?

 

[17:56]

 

Joel Davis: Our organisation’s name is White Australia. The NSN is the activist vanguard of White Australia.

 

So you can go to White Australia.org, you can sign up to be a registered supporter. We’d love for you to sign up as a registered political supporter of White Australia to help us register our political party. And so White Australia is the umbrella organisation. The NSN is specifically the street activism wing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why do you think Melbourne, out of all the march locations, why do you think Melbourne was the most violent?

 

Joel Davis: Well, two reasons. One, Melbourne is by far the largest concentration of communists in Australia. So they had the most communists in the streets.

 

And also Victoria police are the most incompetent police force in Australia by a country mile. Victoria police completely abdicated their responsibility to maintain public order on the day. They allowed communists to set up blockades. They allowed communists to get right up to the march and attack the march. I saw in some of the footage that you put out of your experience on the day in Melbourne that there were confrontations between massive groups of communists and patriots with like literally not a copper in sight.

 

I don’t think New South Wales police, they’re just simply too competent at this stage anyway for that to happen. And I think there’s two reasons for that. One, Victoria police lost all their best guys because they tried to make them take jabs and tried to get them to shoot anti-Covid protesters with rubber bullets. And all their best guys left Victoria police because they refused to be complicit in such a corrupt institution, number one.

 

And number two, they’ve replaced them with Indians and women and people that can’t do anything when it comes to crowd control, anything serious. And second of all, it’s the fact that there’s no permit system in Melbourne because in Melbourne everyone has the right to protest at any time.

 

And so in other states there was a permit that the march for Australia organisers secured that facilitated a particular route that they had the Right to. And the police basically kept counter-protesters away from that area, more or less well, in the other cities from what I’ve heard. I know they did so in Sydney. I didn’t even see counter-protesters in Sydney. I know they were there, I saw footage of them. But, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Have you noticed the function of a counter-protest is essentially illegal? They make it look like it’s not. They say they’re going to occupy your space. If everyone has the right to protest. And how are counter-protests legal? Oh, because you’re protesting a protest, but you’re actually trying to stop somebody else from having their right to protest.

 

So how does that make any sense? And you’re trying to do it with physical intimidation, and where possible, violence, but for some reason it’s still legal. The only aim a counter-protester can have is unethical and potentially violent.

 

So why is it legal? What do you think? Should counter-protesting be illegal?

 

Joel Davis: No, I don’t think it should be illegal. I mean I’ve conducted counter-protests before, such as with the boys, such as the Fuck Off We’re Full rallies, which I thought were excellent!

 

But obviously when it’s like a big march and the police are notified well in advance, there’s going to be thousands and thousands of people that are going to march on this route. There was a police liaison for the Melbourne organisation that informed the police what the route was going to be. And the Left made it very clear what they wanted to do. And what they wanted to do was, … And we had intelligence from inside their camp that they wanted to literally physically block the rally. People like purple pingers, that communist piece of shit!

 

Blair Cottrell: They would have been successful too, if it wasn’t for the presence of Tom and the guys down here in Melbourne.

 

Joel Davis: Absolutely!

 

Blair Cottrell: I didn’t actually personally see any of the fights or clashes between Tom’s guys and the Leftists. But later when I was reviewing footage from other sources, I noticed that the entire march for Australia was Spearheaded by Tom’s group. And it would have been blocked by lines of aggressive communists who had all sorts of weird weapons or using things as weapons, by the way, like cans of fruit. They were throwing eggs at people. They were throwing petrol. One guy got doused with petrol. I saw that on your channel, actually.

 

Long story short, without Tom and the guys down here in Melbourne, I can say the march, it would, it wouldn’t have gone the way it did. It would have probably got stuck somewhere down near Flinders Street and it really would have been difficult to march anywhere. It just would have been a contained event. We never would have got to Parliament House, and the whole thing would have been declared a victory for the communists.

 

So yeah, it was definitely notable that Tom and his guys fought to defend the march and its original purpose.

 

Joel Davis: That’s the thing. The Left modus operandi in Victoria has been to use violence. And this has been true for decades. When the One Nation Party in the late 90s tried to set up branches in Melbourne, the people who came to attend their branch meetings, many of them were elderly women and so on. They were pelted with tinned food, bricks, hit with crowbars, punched in the face, in the back of the head and so on, by masked communist thugs. This also occurred. I know you know this from experience in the Reclaim Australia Days, back in the 2010s. In Melbourne, communists have been using violence to basically stop nationalists from organising for a very long time. They’ve also used it against us when they’ve come down to NSN rallies, such as the Stop Immigration rally that the NSN held at Parliament House in 2023. They threw tinned food, they threw eggs, like all the same shit that they were doing to this they did then! And the police just stood there and allowed them to do it. Didn’t make one arrest! I think only when a Leftist threw a tin at a cop, then he was arrested for it. But like you can throw them carte blanche at nationalists apparently who were then pepper sprayed by police and so on. The police facilitate Left-wing violence against nationalists in Melbourne. They have for decades. This is nothing new. And again on the weekend.

 

Jacinta Allan and the Labor government in Victoria is full of communists!

 

[24:43]

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that right? Do you think the police command are given specific instructions not to bother Leftist counter-protesters too much and to focus on, …

 

Joel Davis: Victorian police are an ideological institution. I know from dealing with them when they rammed their way into my house or dealing with them in the courts with the organisation, defending charges. Different members of the organisation. I have sat in many courtrooms or called into many courtrooms to listen to the proceedings. Victoria police, and this was true again in Tom’s bail hearing. Victoria police justified their actions against us on the basis that our political ideology is “bad” and that the community needs to be protected from nationalists.

 

So Victoria police are a totally captured institution. They fly trans flags, gay flags and so on at the front of their buildings. They are not a politically neutral organisation. And they have an entire department which is basically dedicated to politically policing the nationalist movement.

 

We’ve seen so much footage and so many reports of people who were not in the NSN, people who were just regular patriots, grandmas, grandpas. There was that one bit of footage of this old man getting bashed by like a horde of communists, he was hospitalised with broken ribs. The communists feel that they’re justified to go out there and beat the shit out of patriots simply because they love their country. And the footage is put all over the media, all over the Internet. The police see the footage and they make no arrests. The communists literally have a free pass to be violent!

 

Blair Cottrell: You know why that is, right? Like, you know why? Like, what’s the dogma that’s motivating this? It is that we are White people, all descendants of evil colonial devils! And that’s not just what Leftists think. That is the dogma of the society that we live in. And there’s three different categories. Every society needs its villains. Under Christendom, you had this kind of spiritual effigy of the devil, right? But it’s no longer a fundamentally Christian society. It’s more secular now.

 

So the villain has become a specific race, responsible for all historical woes and suffering. White people! There’s three different categories of villain as well, right? If you’re White, you’re automatically bad, you’re ethnically bad, your ancestors committed all these atrocities, colonialism, war, blah, blah, blah, slavery.

 

But you can atone for your sins and become an honorary member of the diverse system. You can even become part of the nobility if you disavow your own ethnic heritage. If you basically self abnegate:

 

“You hate your own race? Good! You’re in the club! You become an honorary member of the multiculturalism.”

 

But if you start noticing things or calling out the dogma as bullshit, you’re a racist, right? But if you start actually fighting against the system that’s imposing that dogma, you’re a Nazi!

 

So it’s very simplistic ideological subversion, and it’s kind of sick and twisted. But that is literally the society we live in the reason people are throwing cans of fruit at people’s heads on the street, the reason some people, White people, want to kill other White people is because they’ve been exposed to systemic dogma that makes them believe White people are bad, and need to be punished for historical sins, the sins of their ethnic ancestors! And it’s going to continue while this dogma is still being taught in education system, is still part of the administrative society, part of the society that we’re raised in.

 

So until that changes at a fundamental level, you’re going to have not just White people, but everybody else uniting against White people. Why does every society need its villain? Everyone needs to blame someone. No one likes to take responsibility for their own bullshit! Everyone has to blame someone else.

 

And it’s very important for a society’s power structure to have everyone united against the common enemy!

 

And like I said, because we’re not a religious society anymore, we’re secular. The enemy has to be of the material plane. It has to be a specific race. And it’s us! We are the designated villain of society. So it’s going to continue, it’s going to get worse. It’s kind of creepy actually. And I’ll get into this a bit more as I think about it more.

 

But it’s curious, isn’t it? Because even if you’re watching this, if you’re like of the Leftist opinions and you’re watching me explain this to you now, you still won’t get it! You’ll still think I’m just a racist Nazi and I should be killed or put in jail, because you’re that conditioned by the dogma. Realistically, I’m just a person. I’m a person who believes in just telling the truth as I see it, and that’s it. But you’ll never see me that way. Because of my ethnic heritage and because I’m actually critical of the dogma that you’ve come to love so much and trust so much because you’re so smart for learning it at higher education system. Right?

 

You couldn’t possibly be wrong. You couldn’t possibly have been tricked. You’re too smart for that. You’re too clever. That’s what they told you anyway.

 

But yeah, what do you think? I’ve got one more question for you actually. Another question for you. Did you already touch a little bit on the camp sovereignty that Tom and the guys?

 

[30:10]

 

 

Joel Davis: I did a bit, but we can discuss it because obviously a lot of arrests have been made. I believe seven members of the NSN, don’t quote me on that, have been charged. The police indicate more will be charged. So we’ll see how many of the boys cop charges. You know, the media is portraying it as they ran up the hill to beat up innocent Aboriginals that were sitting around.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ll be honest. That’s what it looks like. That’s what it looks like on camera. It looks really bad! It looks like Tom and his guys were the aggressors and they attacked people who weren’t doing anything. They were sitting there. And it’s not really important when you got video evidence like that going before the court, what happened, what was said, rumours, what might have been seen by someone, it’s all hearsay. It only matters what is provable.

 

Basically, what is assessed in court, the way determinations are made in court, as you know, Joel, isn’t the truth! It’s what things look like! It’s what the judge decides is true based on what is provable and the evidence.

 

So do you think, personally, I think if they didn’t attack the camp, I think he probably still would have got charged for a couple of things. But every other fight that I saw taking place between Tom’s guys and the Leftists, they had clear aggressors that were fighting them as well. So they had defense there, they had legal defense. It’s all on camera, and they’ve got defense.

 

If they didn’t attack the camp, I don’t think they’d be copying as much flak. I don’t think Tom would be in jail right now.

 

So do you think it was a tactical error to charge on the camp like that?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think the benefit of doing so versus the cost is definitely not worth it. I think having Tom in prison for any period of time, but particularly a long period of time, is obviously not in our interests as an organisation. Of course not.

 

However, I was in Sydney. If I was in Melbourne, and I had just been fighting communists all day with the boys. And then I heard reports that these communists were camping, you know, up that hill and beating up patriots, gang bashing patriots on the way back to their car. And we had to go back to our cars, which were covered in graffiti because these patriots went down, identified cars that [belonged to] people that were attending the march and keyed the fuck out of their cars, spray painted “Nazi” all over them and kicked in the windows and shit like that!

 

And then you look up the hill and they’re up the hill and they’re throwing shit down at you and fucking yelling shit out. And it’s those same that you’ve been fighting all day that have been doing heinous things, beating up old people throwing projectiles at you. Some reports of throwing vomit, throwing shit! Throwing piss, like water balloons filled with piss, dousing people with petrol, all kinds of shit you’ve seen and dealt with throughout the day.

 

And then you see those cunts up on that hill, I can understand the impulse entirely to run up the hill and beat the shit out of them. And I probably would have, not probably, I definitely would have done it too! If I was there, I’d probably be in jail right now too. Or maybe I’d be on charges and be released on bail because I don’t have all the priors that Tom had.

 

But yeah, I completely understand why that happened. From a moral standpoint, it was 100% justified. 100% justified!

 

However, from a tactical standpoint, doesn’t look like the best move. But I can’t, you can’t judge. Like if you imagine yourself in the situation that they were in, if you’re a red blooded White man, you would have done the same thing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Any man who sees that footage of the boys running up a hill screaming like the last charge of Gondor in Lord of the Rings or something, everyone I showed that to laughed! It’s amusing, it’s funny! It’s like:

 

“Oh my God, this is happening in the city between different political factions. This is crazy!”

 

But as I said, or what I was alluding to, is if you’re going to get strategic, which you need to do in politics, obviously you can’t just be governed entirely by impulse. Like the aggressive general. You need to know when not to fight. You need to know when to fight and when not to fight. And how to fight as well. You’ve got to remember too, that everyone’s got a video camera attached to their hand these days with their smartphones. Everyone’s filming everything all the time. It’s a really gay system we live in. It’s really fucking gay and annoying, but you kind of got to adjust to some degree.

 

Look, half the reason I have been close to the organisation is because I care about Tom. He’s my friend. Everyone knows I love Tom. I’ve got a long history with Tom. And I was trying to guide him best I could. I was, just by giving him advice. I still enjoy commentary, obviously. I enjoy analysis and putting together my videos on politics. But I wanted to try to keep Tom out of prison, because Tom is a no bullshit kind of guy. He’s a fighter, he’s a warrior! I admire him for that. But it was my intent to try to keep him out of jail, to try to make sure something like this didn’t happen. And it looks like I failed to do that. I did my best. But at the end of the day he was going to do whatever he was going to do. I’m just glad that his guys, …

 

Joel Davis: It was awesome! Like the Tom Sewell mythos ultimately just took insane W’s! Like there’s all this footage now of Thomas, so bashing communists and pulling the Bane pose and holding the Aboriginal flag, and yeah, he might do a little bit of time, but he’s going to get out! And when he gets out, we’re going to have the party built. The movement is going to be even more advanced. We’re going to have even bigger membership. A fully fledged political party operating. And his folk hero status was cemented, I think, over the weekend. Like Tom Sewell’s name was trending in America. It was on the news in Canada, it was on the news in Britain.

 

And then the whole epic-ness of the day of the speech to the 20,000, …

 

[36:58]

 

[Joel’s sound cut out for several minutes without him realizing it. When doing these shows they should have a written sign always handy, saying “you’re muted”, or similar, that they can hold up.]

 

[40:15]

 

Blair Cottrell: Can you hear me? Joel? If you can hear me, can you give me a thumbs up?

 

Joel Davis: How long was I gone? Did you lose me for a bit?

 

Blair Cottrell: Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear what I’m saying?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Test, test, test.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I can hear you. How long was that?

 

Blair Cottrell: I can’t hear what you’re saying.

 

Joel Davis: How long was that?

 

Blair Cottrell: If you can hear me, Thumbs up.

 

Joel Davis: I can hear you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, you can hear me. Okay, thanks. Well, my audio is just shit itself! I can’t hear what you’re saying. I’ll say this quickly and then I’ll buzz off to try to fix my speaker.

 

Regarding Tom staying in remand and possibly even getting some pretty harsh sentencing when his charges do go to sentencing. There’s a few things to consider here because the judge can actually use what’s called “public denunciation, deterrence or racial motivation or racially motivated”, purposes behind his offences to essentially ignore mitigating factors like his military service, his work ethic, his family, and give him the maximum possible sentence for the charges. Public denunciation is basically, it’s a form of deterrence. It’s like for the public to see:

 

“Look, don’t do what this guy did, or this will happen to you!”

 

And they can do that. The law, if it’s a serious enough matter, they feel it’s a serious enough matter. Deterrence is like, on an individual level for him. Don’t do this again. Or this is what’s going to happen to you where we’re going to give you a harsh sentence. So you learn. And then the racial motivation thing.

 

And like I said, any one of those things can be used to give us especially harsh sentence. So he’s going to need some really good lawyers, he’s going to need some good legal advice and people to do some diligent work for him. Preferably, in my opinion, people who aren’t so emotionally invested necessarily in our side of politics, the right side of politics, or not so ideologically motivated. Just good, cold, logical lawyers that are going to crunch all the numbers and do all the magic.

 

Because what is law, at the end of the day, it’s symbols on paper. It’s words on paper that justify the government kidnapping you and making an example out of you if you’re not doing what they want you to do. But you need people who are good at putting really nice and intelligent words on paper. You need people good with that symbology bullshit to work their magic to try to make sure Tom doesn’t end up in jail for the next five years.

 

But I’m just gonna fix my audio. I can’t hear what you’re saying. I don’t fucking know why I don’t have my usual setup.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: So I’ll be back.

 

[Blair leaves]

 

[42:56]

 

Joel Davis: All right. So Blair’s audio shit itself just as my microphone fucked out. And I was cooking too, though. That’s really annoying. People are texting me saying it was like five minutes, “no audio” or something.

 

And anyway, I’m gonna go from the top. I’ll try and reprise what I was saying. What I was saying was this.

 

Number one, the people that are complaining that:

 

“Maybe Tom maybe made an incorrect strategic decision charging up that hill.”

 

What they’re complaining about is the fact that Thomas Sewell is a real nigger!

 

The reason why we are going to have, why we have the world’s most interesting and dynamic far-Right movement, while we have the most relevant Nazis in the 21st century in Australia, is because Tom Sewell doesn’t do what’s pragmatic. Tom Sewell lives, eats, breathes and shits blood and honour! And that’s why people love him! That’s why he is able to lead a movement that is as cool and dynamic and powerful as the one that we have.

 

So you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t, on the one hand, be celebrating all of the excellent things that Tom does or the NSN does or White Australia does. And then on the other hand, be like:

 

“But, well, actually this was the incorrect strategic decision.”

 

It was the honourable decision. It was the moral decision.

 

[44:32]

 

 

And at the end of the day, the mythos of Thomas Sewell took a huge W! [win] What is Tom Sewell’s rap sheet going to be? Bashing a black security guard at Channel Nine! Bashing communists! Bashing Aboriginal activists! This is fucking awesome! If you’re going to have a rap sheet, if you’re going to go to jail, doing awesome shit! And he’s going to get out of jail. Maybe it’ll be one year, maybe it’ll be two years in the worst case scenario. But he’s going to get out of jail and we will have the political party built, we will keep recruiting, the movement will be bigger, be stronger, it’ll have more manpower. And he has solidified his status as a folk hero of Australia and as one of, if not the most leading voices in the struggle for White survival on the planet!

 

Thomas Sewell was trending in America. He was on the news in Canada! Like this is a truly global story. And the whole narrative arc of him and the boys beating their way through communists and then giving an epic speech at the front of Parliament to 20,000 patriots. And then the next day he like runs into Jacinta Allan [Victorian State Premier] and like hijacks a press conference and so on. I mean, it was incredible stuff! It was absolute cinema! The entire country was glued to this story, this incredible story!

 

So yeah, this is like the stuff of folklore, this is the stuff of legend. And this is the type of leader that we should have in this country. We should have an actual warrior, someone who beats the shit out of communists. We shouldn’t have a faggot like Anthony Albanese or Sussan Ley in a pantsuit, pushing just like cliches around!

 

We want a real red blooded human being. The way that he portrayed himself, the way that he conducted himself. That is what a leader is supposed to be that is a warrior! The king is supposed to be a warrior. The king is not supposed to be a corrupt nerd who sells his arse and his values for a cheque. A pragmatic:

 

“Well, I got to do this to keep this person happy and shake hands with this person.”

 

And that’s not the kind of leader that I want. I want a leader who puts their heart on their sleeves and who lives and dies for what they believe. A fighter for this country. That’s who should be leading.

 

So the mythos of Thomas Sewell just took an incredible W, [win] and the whole arc of going to jail and so on. Hitler went to jail, so many other political leaders went to jail, came out of it, and still had political success. Many of the Bolshevik Revolutionaries did time in jail, did time in exile. So many great leaders throughout history were exiled or jailed or what have you. That isn’t going to stop him, and it isn’t going to stop us. So what Tom made was a decision that was based in honour.

 

And in my experience, even if it doesn’t seem pragmatic, ultimately, the honourable decision always will end up being vindicated in time. Because that’s what the Aryan race is! What Aryan means is literally the honourable race. Like the root “arya” means honourable. It means noble. We are the noble race.

 

So that’s how we should behave. We take the fight to the enemy.

 

So, yeah, that’s kind of what you see a lot of naysayers as well, about this whole thing:

 

“Oh, well, you know what’s the point of marching around?”

 

That march completely changed the collective psyche of Australia. That march completely changed the global perception of Australia. It made people believe that nationalism could re-emerge in Australia as a political force. It made people believe that White Australians are not going to surrender this country without a fight. That is intangible. Right? You can’t quantify that you can’t get an Excel spreadsheet that represents exactly how that translates into, like, political metrics. Right?

 

But you know it! If you’re an Australian, you know it, you can feel it. You just experienced it. It felt like a reset of Australian politics.

 

I see Blair is back. Can you hear me this time?

 

Blair Cottrell: Can you hear me?

 

Joel Davis: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. I think we’re back on. Really sorry about this, guys. I get really frustrated when we can’t just make basic technology work properly. It makes us look like idiots. [chuckling] What was I going to say? What were you saying just then? Do you need to finish a point?

 

Joel Davis: Well, we can move on to the next point. You missed my whole take on the Sewell situation, but it doesn’t. We’re going to keep the stream rolling. I’m not going to repeat it again. I said it once without the audio on. Again without you. So we won’t go over it again.

 

We should move to the next subject, which I wanted to cover, which was that people say:

 

“What’s the point of marching in the street? What’s the big deal? Okay? You had people marching all over Australia. Who cares?”

 

And what I was saying was that politics, you can’t always capture it all in a quantifiable metric. That what that march communicated to the Australian people was that this country is not being given up without a fight, that nationalism is still a force in Australian society. And that the idea that we’re just going to have this slow march into more and more Leftism and more and more multiculturalism. There’s nothing you can do about it. That march was a signal and a shot into the collective psyche that no, actually there is a choice, actually there could be a resistance and emboldens people to have a fighting spirit.

 

It emboldens people to embrace a more nationalist set of values and ideals and in their lives because they can see that they’re not alone. A lot of people don’t even allow themselves to think nationalist thoughts or think racist thoughts because they think that the conversation’s over and that it’s a lost cause. And what a march like that communicates to them in their hind brain in the kind of psycho-social dynamic of Australia, is that:

 

“No! It’s not a lost cause!”

 

Do you agree with that?

 

[51:10]

 

Blair Cottrell: I do, but there needs to be somewhere for them to go. You can’t just march in the street perpetually and not have an actual tangible solution. I know that you guys want to register a political party, but that needs to happen and it needs to happen really soon! Especially because of the situation in Australia. I’ll explain what I mean in a moment. But you guys need some basic legal protections and I think you’ll get that if you get registered as a party. They’re going to try to stop you from registering though, because I think they’ve got like AI models and experts and stuff that try to run certain scenarios through a point of assessment or series of assessments to determine how likely it is that a White Australia party could get votes.

 

And I think they know that it would get votes. And they’re going to try to shut you down. And it’s creepy what’s happening in Australia right now! It’s almost not safe for dissidents to live in this country at the moment. And it’s only going to get worse over the next one to two years, the next couple of years in Australia for leading dissidents who are trying to create organisation and solutions, somewhere for people to go, someone for people to vote for. It’s a dangerous place to live if you’re someone like that, for three reasons.

 

The first reason is because you remember the Welcome to Country ceremony at the Anzac Day memorial service or the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne, where some people booed that they voiced their protest against that. Now that’s a political statement. When a guy is performing the Aboriginal Welcome to Country, he’s doing that for political reasons. It’s a social political statement.

 

Now people in the crowd voiced their disagreement with that some of them were members of NSN or White Australia, and some other people joined in too. And even former soldiers actually understood why the Aboriginal thing was booed. But at least one person has just been charged with three criminal offences for booing! For voicing his disagreement just by booing of a government sponsored political statement at an Anzac Day War Memorial service. He’s been charged with three criminal offences.

 

Joel Davis: Nanthan Bull.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yes! That means he was charged for voicing his opinion, basically.

 

The second creepy thing that makes living in Australia really kind of weird and creepy right now is people are being raided on no evidence. Dozens of Australian Federal police joined by Counter Terrorism police, I think they are. They’re raiding people on no evidence for things they know those people haven’t done just to take their stuff!

 

I know because they did it to me just two months ago. Still haven’t got my stuff back. They reckon I did a Nazi salute. They know I didn’t do a Nazi salute! They know that I don’t do Nazi salutes! I don’t really go for the whole German, the copy paste German, National Socialism thing. It’s not my style, never has been. And they know that they would have intelligence on that, but they just raided me on the accusation anyway and they didn’t have any evidence! And this is creepy because there’s only one. Ics of you’re going to raid people on no evidence for what you know they didn’t do, that’s only one step away from just fabricating evidence, from just making shit up to throwing them in jail or ruin their life!

 

[Blair’s image frozen]

 

Joel Davis: Is he frozen for you guys too, or just me? Chat? Is Blair frozen? Put a F for frozen in the chat, if Blair’s frozen. Yep.

 

All right, it’s over. Well, I’ll interrupt Blair’s black pill rant. Yeah, I think ZOG had enough of the black pilling. I see the chat is full of F’s. We’ll see if he comes back. Hopefully he’ll be back soon.

 

But yeah, I think I take a different view. Like, yes, they’re trying to lay charges on us for speech crimes and things like this, but these are all very minor charges. They don’t carry serious sentences or they have limited prospects of success in court, they de-legitimize the system and create sympathy for our guys and for our movement. And this really shouldn’t deter people from getting involved in the movement.

 

Number one, they generally target people in leadership, prominent public facing activists. And number two, what’s the alternative to joining a movement like ours? Like just standing by and watch our country be stolen, be flooded with Indians and Chinese? Where it’s an irrevocable situation where we completely lose control of the continent forever. Fuck that! I’ve already made my peace with the fact that at some point, if we have enough success as a party, eventually someone might just come shoot me in the head! I don’t give a fuck! I’ll just respawn! Like I don’t care! Because what’s the alternative? I’m not just gonna just sit there like a cuck watching goy flicks and jerking my shit while Indians and niggers and fucking Muslims and shit are flooded into the country and there’s no Australia anymore, and it’s over. Fuck that. I’m not gonna stand by and allow that to happen, as you can all clearly see, and neither should you!

 

[56:47]

 

And if you would, fuck you! Like, you’re literally the reason why the White race is in decline, because of your refusal to engage in collective political action in defense of our race. And it’s not even that bad. Like I’m having a lot of fun being a political dissident. A lot of my friends are National Socialist or nationalist political dissidents. They’re having a good time! It’s actually a fun way to live. Like, I’m so sick of black pilling and:

 

“Oh, but this, but that and whatever!”

 

Who fucking cares! You know what? Non-Whites are flooding into the country by the hundreds of thousands! And now is the time to resist! Now is the time to get organised. Here is the movement. We are at the beginning phase of the movement to fight back, to take our country back. Where the fuck are you? Why the fuck haven’t you joined yet? There is literally zero excuses. We must fight or we will perish as a nation! Period!

 

I don’t care about the black pills. I really don’t. I don’t care about the, “but what?” It’s just pathetic! We don’t have time for that. What we need to focus on is how are we going to get more organised. How are we going to build up the collective resistance of the White Australian nation to resist our genocide! That’s what we need to focus upon and that’s all that matters.

 

And you know what? I remember discussing this on the show before. There is over one million White millionaires in Australia. There is more than 1 million White millionaires. I know a million dollars isn’t really, that much money anymore. But the point that I’m making is that there is plenty of resources out there in the White community. There is almost, 20 million White men and women in this country. Yes. Some of them are Lefties, and some of them are Boomers. Whatever. I mean, Boomers can still help. Boomers can still vote. Boomers have a lot of money that they can throw in. There’s a place for Boomers.

 

But a lot of them might be lost causes ideologically or what have you, but there are millions and millions of people that are going to be positively predisposed to White nationalism in this country, that if we organise just even a small percentage of them, we could build a political movement that could rival every other political movement in this country and then some. So we can win! It’s just a matter of willpower and a willingness to struggle and a willingness to sacrifice.

 

You know that I see Blair’s back. There was a gentleman in our organisation who is a dentist, who earns very good money as a dentist, he’s a friend of mine who was doxed by the enemy, by jewish journalists, and by Antifa. And they’re going about trying to destroy his career right now.

 

And, I mean, obviously that’s a setback for him on a personal level, but he doesn’t care, because he understands, like, ultimately he doesn’t care if that’s the sacrifice he has to make, because ultimately, saving our nation is what matters! And there’s plenty of people in our movement who have made incredible sacrifices, who have been attacked, who have had to go through trials and tribulations, have been incarcerated, have been charged and will do time in prison and so on. That’s the only way that we’re going to fucking win!

 

We’re actually not going to be capable of winning with a strategy which takes no risks, in which no one has to make any sacrifices, in which no one has to do any time in prison, no one has to pay any money, no one has to lose a job, no one has to lose a girlfriend, no one has to be estranged from their family. That’s not the story! That’s not the hero arc. The hero arc is trials and tribulation!

 

[Joel’s sound cut out]

 

Blair Cottrell: Joel, is your. Is that your microphone or mine? I suddenly just can’t hear you anymore.

 

Joel Davis: Am I back?

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re back now? Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Was it for long? Was it a short mute this time?

 

Blair Cottrell: I was like, 10 minutes, bro! You have to start again! No, I’m kidding! It was only, like, 10 seconds.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. What I was saying was that that’s the hero’s journey. The hero’s journey. You have to go through trials and tribulations. You have to suffer! You have to make sacrifices in order to develop the character, to become worthy of being the champion, of being the victim, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I agree.

 

Joel Davis: We’re all on the hero’s journey together. Everyone participating in this movement, we all must suffer. All my sacrifice! And we all must accept it valiantly and forthrightly.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I get it, but., …

 

Joel Davis: No one is making more sacrifices than the leadership. We got Tom willing to go to prison for the movement, and go to prison gladly. I mean, obviously not glad to be in prison, but he’s willing to do that if that’s what’s necessary, because there is going to be no victory without casualties. There’s going to be no victory without suffering, no victory without struggle.

 

Blair Cottrell: Joel, is it necessary? Was it necessary? That’s my question.

 

Sure, it’s like what you’re saying, I understand it. But at the same time, you don’t want to hand yourself over on a platter to the police prosecution and make it easy for them. So was it necessary for Tom to go to jail after this march? Was it necessary to attack the camp? I don’t think it was at this point.

 

[1:02:12]

 

 

Joel Davis: Well, attack I don’t see it as an attack. I see it as them defending themselves against communist agitators who were throwing projectiles at them and threatening them.

 

But nevertheless, whether it was necessary or not, is besides the point. What it was honourable, and what it was awesome! And it should be defended on that basis.

 

And moreover, it adds to, as I was saying before, the mythos of Thomas Sewell. The man, the myth, the legend, the folklore! I mean, it’s legendary stuff. This will go down in the history books on the arc of the rise and fall of Tom Sewell, the ups and downs and so on will be the fights with the communists and the street brawls and so on, which help demonstrate his authenticity to the fighters of Australia. This man is a fighter! This man takes the fight to the enemy on your behalf. Follow him! That’s powerful!

 

What are these faggots in the Liberal Party? Who are they fighting? No one! They’re just a bunch of cucks. Or in the One Nation Party:

 

“Hey, look at this piece of shit in the suit who says 20% of things that you might like sometimes. Follow them!”

 

No, that’s not inspiring! They’re not taking the fight to anyone. You know, when you see:

 

“Oh, Avi, Yemeni is doing a fundraiser because he’s doing videos on the street, and we’ve got to raise money for Avi!”

 

Like, this is not a hero. He doesn’t have anything heroic about him. There’s nothing heroic about Pauline Hanson. There’s nothing heroic about Alex Antic. There’s something heroic about any of these fucking losers! There is something heroic about Thomas Sewell. And he wouldn’t be heroic if he wasn’t also honourable. He wouldn’t be what he is if he didn’t sometimes make the incorrect tactical decision and do the based option.

 

So I think ultimately it’s going to work out for the best because when he gets out of prison, we’re going to have the party built up. The folklore will be in place. It’s a time for others to step up. You know, Jacob Hersant has to step up. I’ve got to step up. Jack Altis has got to step up.

 

The other state leaders have got to step up. Everyone’s got to step up to ensure that we execute on our plan, which has been set in place. We know what we want to do, what we want to achieve. And I have full confidence that we can achieve it while he’s in prison, so that when he gets out, the movement is in a stronger and better place. So, I’m still feeling positive.

 

I mean, I’m really pissed off that, I mean, you mentioned Tom is not just like a guy to you. He’s a close personal friend. Me, too. He’s one of my best friends. I hate the fact that he’s in a concrete box right now. I hate the fact that he can’t spend time with his kids, he can’t spend time with the boys. That he’s being degraded as a human being by being treated as a prisoner when he did nothing wrong. What he did was moral. Fuck those putrid communist faggots! They deserve worse than what was done to them.

 

And so I feel angry about that. I feel angry about the fact that they’re denying him books, that they’re denying him pen and paper so he can have more productive time in there. I feel a lot better when he’s at least able to read and write and things, things like that. He could get some product productivity out of his time in there. Hopefully that will be rectified soon. But I’ve got a lot of things that I’m angry about, and I hate not being able to hang out with him. He’s one of my best friends.

 

But at the end of the day, I back it. I backed the decision that he made because it was epic! Like him beating up the communists and so on was epic! It was fucking awesome!

 

And ultimately when people look back upon, upon things in the future, if we all do our jobs correctly and we keep advancing the movement, it’ll just become this awesome myth that will end up animating the movement for the better.

 

Blair Cottrell: They definitely won, Tom and the boys, they won every fight. Goodness me! The counter-protesters, they obviously don’t train for that kind of thing enough and maybe Tom’s guys do and that was the difference. There’s maybe a difference in physical health standards as well.

 

But yeah, I had a comment to make on that and now it slipped my mind. It’s really hot tonight. It’s been freezing cold in Melbourne and now all of a sudden it’s really hot! But there’s a storm outside. Have you noticed how hot it is today? I can’t relax because it’s too hot.

 

Joel Davis: It was a warm day up here in Sydney, but I don’t know, it’s a different climate. It’s nice though. I enjoyed it. Good weather.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, Joel’s the dealer in hope, isn’t he guys? Yeah. Joel always ooks at the glass half full. And Joel always has a positive spin to throw on things, which is good. You need people like that.

 

Joel Davis: It’s not just positive spin though. It’s like it’s confidence in what we’re doing. I believe in the power of, … Like that video of the boys bashing Antifa which everyone must have seen. That video has got 10 million views! That video is fucking legendary! Of the NSN taking the streets back from the communist scum! These commies have literally been running the streets of Melbourne on a political basis for decades. They’ve never had their arse handed to them like that in decades! They have been shutting down nationalism, shutting down everything that they don’t like basically.

 

And then they do rallies every other week about their bullshit causes. They think they own the place. And the boys that go down there and send one into the nose of these race traitor pieces of shit, because a lot of them are White race traitors, pathetic little cucks, was fucking awesome! And that is going to inspire the entire global pro-White movement and it’s going to inspire the fighters in Australia to come and join us, so that the movement grows larger.

 

And so the next time we do the street, a street rally and the next time and the next time we’re stronger and stronger and stronger so we can exert our will on the streets, which is what is politics fundamentally. It’s fundamentally about controlling territory. That’s the essence of politics. And in order to get sick cunts, to get hard cunts, to get fighters to join you have to prove that you’re a fighter. Fighters are only going to follow other fighters!

 

[1:08:56]

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, the Leftist activists. I think there’s a new generation coming through of Leftist activists as. Well, I mean, a lot of the guys in Tom’s group are part of a new generation of nationalists. So there’s obviously going to be younger and more aggressive communist activists at the same time who are being indoctrinated, who are being exposed to probably more aggressive conditioning than the generation that came before them as well. So everything’s becoming more radical as a result of that.

 

But there used to be basic boundaries and things that Leftist activists wouldn’t do. Those boundaries no longer seem to exist. They’ve been up to all sorts of mischief and just like relentless personal attacks on anyone that they can find, any information they can find on anyone at the rally. And they’re being assisted by major media journalists and government bureaucrats, as always. But it still doesn’t seem strange to them that maybe there are not on the right side.

 

But what I was saying before I got cut off is I’m concerned about the next couple of years for organisers on the right side of centre, if you want to use the political spectrum as a gauge, I don’t usually go for it, but it makes sense to you.

 

Use it in this for this explanation. I’m concerned because, first of all, as I summarized, someone’s been charged for “booing”. Someone’s been charged with three criminal offences for booing people all across the country. Only people who are nationalists or ethnic nationalists are being raided on no evidence and are having their stuff taken. Okay. And as I said, that’s very close to just making stuff up for the police. They’re not playing by the rules anymore. Usually if police are going to raid you for hours and take your stuff and hold it indefinitely, they need to have good evidence that you’ve done something criminal. And they usually only take things relevant to that offence.

 

Now it’s just take all your stuff! Take all your stuff and hold it as long as they want. And they’re doing it for things they know you haven’t done. And without evidence to back up any of it. Right. Very close to just fabricating or making up evidence to throw you away, if that’s what they’re going to do. Creepy shit!

 

And the third thing is Tom’s bail hearing, actually. The prosecutor, the police prosecutor, took the opportunity to add into the submission for why Tom should be remanded in custody. That means not given bail. He said that Tom had made hateful comments on the steps of Parliament, hateful comments about immigration.

 

All right, that’s notable because Tom has been accused of all sorts of violent offences. But then he also slotted the hateful comments remark in there in kind of like a “violent offence sandwich”. You know, you got violent offence, hateful comments, violent offence. And he fed that to the judge and the judge gobbled it up. She swallowed it down! Because after she ate that and made her decision, she said:

 

“People have the right not to be confronted by hatred, or hateful comments.”

 

Okay, so now it’s on record, legally, and the law works on precedent. It’s on record that an activist has been remanded in custody, refused bail. Yes, because he’s been accused of violent offences, but also because he made “hateful comments”. You see, what they’re trying to do here is they’re trying to take “hate speech” or “hateful comments” and they’re trying to elevate the severity of that crime to be similar or even akin to violent crime. So hate speech is going to become like violence in the eyes of the law, and you’ll be sentenced accordingly. Right.

 

So people being charged with criminal offences for booing. What is booing? It’s just voicing their disagreement with political statements. You’re getting charged for that. Raided on no evidence, which can easily lead to just fabricating evidence and hate speech crime possibly being punished as though it’s violence or having the same impact on society as violence. And this is not happening in 10 years. This is not happening for your kids, so you don’t have to worry about it. It’s happening here right now in Australia! It’s hectic, it’s creepy, but that’s our reality.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, that’s true, but we’ll see how that goes in court. Ultimately, like Nathan’s case, I think it has limited prospects of success. We will be going to the High Court because they’re unconstitutional laws, they’re untested laws, untested interpretations that don’t have precedent in Australian law.

 

And so again, there’s a serious legal fight. It isn’t something to just like give up upon:

 

“Oh, well, free speech is gone!”

 

There’s a lot of support for free speech in Australia. It’s the majority of the population and there’s a strong constitutional basis for free speech, at least political speech in this country.

 

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Blair Cottrell: There is, but I’m concerned that Australia is becoming so viciously corrupt that the law is just boiling down to who has more resources, who has more influence. And whoever has more influence, which is always going to be the police prosecutor. They work for the government, they’re going to get the result they want. I’m concerned that that’s the situation right now in Australia. I mean, when has any nationalist had any sort of victory in the courts? Can you think of a single example?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, there are examples. I mean, we just had a pretty huge victory where they dropped like pretty much all of our charges in Adelaide. And now we’ve got them on the back foot. And now Stephen Wells is going to be extracting hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages out of South Australia police, if not millions.

 

So there are victories. There’s also a guy who. This is how robust the Constitution is in legal history. There was a guy, this is going back now maybe 10 plus years. And of course I don’t condone this, but it was a Nazi YouTuber, let’s say, but I think he was on YouTube, it was on a different website, who made a video more or less advocating to do a Holocaust, but for real in Australia. He was then charged with inciting violence. He successfully argued in court that, well, he was advocating for political policy. He wasn’t saying that he personally was going to go and build gas chambers and start gassing jews, but that he thinks the government should do it. Ideally in a representative democracy we should be able to elect a leadership on a pro-Holocaust platform or something. And he won the case!

 

So there are cases like this in Australian history. There is a very robust, as I said, constitutional protection for political speech. So there is precedent for victories on that front.

 

Now we’re entering into unprecedented territory with the recent cases that have been brought against members of the organisation. And so it hasn’t been tested properly. Nothing has gone past like the magistrate court level really. We’ve seen Jacob’s case going to the county court for the Roman salute in November. That’ll be interesting. But ultimately this stuff is going to end up in the High Court, more likely.

 

So we’re gonna have to wait and see before we ride it off like it’s Just completely. You can be sceptical that we can win, but I think it’s silly to just write it off when we haven’t even like properly fought, …

 

Blair Cottrell: No, no, that’s not what I’m doing. I’m not black pilling! I’m just looking at the situation objectively.

 

But what I wanted to end on was I think we should be, regardless of what happens, as dissidents, as nationalists, regardless of what they say, what they come up with, what they do to you, you have to keep your chin up and just keep moving forward. Like, you can’t let them break, you can’t let them turn us on each other. You know, don’t be compelled to flip. Don’t think you can go back to quote, unquote, “normal life”, because once you’ve crossed over the threshold, you realise there is no normal life. There’s just a war, an eternal battle for our collective ethnic existence. And we’re in a constant battle with people who don’t want us to exist anymore. Right?

 

That is the truth! So keep your chin up and keep moving forward. But be prepared for things to get really spicy in the next couple of years because As I said, the government, the police, they’re not really playing by the rules right now, not when it comes to Tom’s group specifically. They’re really going hard.

 

Joel Davis: The police definitely aren’t playing by the rules, and lower courts are garbage! Like this woman magistrate. I’ve sat in courtrooms where the magistrate has said things like:

 

“I’m not really in the mood to hear arguments today and statements of this nature.”

 

Female magistrates constantly talking about constantly making the phrase “I feel” in court. What do you mean “you feel”? You’re a magistrate, you’re there to like adjudicate over rational arguments and evidence.

 

So the magistrate’s court is a joke! It’s like it’s no surprise that we get garbage judgements in the Magistrates Court. But there are many levels of court higher than the Magistrates Court. And the higher up you go, the more rational and sensible the whole process gets.

 

So before we exhaust our legal options in higher courts, we should remain confident in victory, and we have a strong legal argument, like I said. Now in this case where where in terms of the so-called assaults or violent disorder on these communists at the so-called Camp Sovereignty, that is a different case that you can’t defend, obviously on the grounds of free speech because it was a physical interaction.

 

But in terms of these speech cases, I feel very confident that we can be successful in court. And even if you’re found guilty of a lot of these things, there’s actually no jail sentence.

 

Blair himself was found guilty of a speech crime years ago and it was a six thousand dollar fine. So it’s not that big of a fucking deal! Like, okay, it sucks to get fined $6,000 but it’s not going to be the end of your life. Right? It’s six grand.

 

So there needs to be a certain amount of a reality check that other than Tom, none of us are in jail right now. We’ve been doing this for years. So clearly the system doesn’t have a super efficient means of putting us away. Yes, they’re passing new laws and they have passed new laws and they’re trying to increase their powers and so on. It’s going to get more difficult.

 

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But also our tactics will adapt to the new laws in kind. We’re not stupid. We know how to read the laws, we know how to study the laws, and we will persevere.

 

There’s a few other things that I wanted to cover. I don’t know what’s going on with Blair, if he’s coming back or if he’s gone. But one of them is there’s two bits of, … There’s a lot of criticism and said online, people calling us Feds and blah, blah, blah. And that’s just silly. Like if we were Feds, why do they just put our leader in jail? You know, if we’re Feds, why would the Prime Minister defend an anti-immigration rally of people who hate him and his government’s policies from the association with Nazis? The idea is:

 

“Oh, the Labor government sends in the Nazi Feds so that everyone at the rally gets called Nazis!”

 

Well, that actually didn’t even happen. In fact, the Prime Minister said the opposite.

 

So the Fed accusations are just ridiculous! There’s zero evidence supporting them. The logic, when people accuse us of being Feds, their logic is either based in falsehoods or their predictions never come true. It’s just garbage!

 

But what I wanted to discuss with two other bits of criticism or analysis. One, statements from various people, including Dave Right Now who gave a speech in Sydney and Stuart Bonds from the One Nation Party who gave a speech in Sydney. These people were saying that National Socialism and communism, these are the same thing as one another. I challenged both of these gentlemen to a debate on the subject. If they really believe this, they should be willing to sit down and debate me on the subject. We can have a neutral host that’ll make sure that it’s fair and so on. I’m not interested in getting into some kind of insult match with these people, but to have a sincere, gentlemanly, scholarly debate on the subject.

 

You know, Stuart Bonds is a he almost got elected up in the Hunter region for the One Nation Party. I think he was the most successful One Nation candidate. He was the most successful One Nation candidate in the lower house at the last election. He got the largest share of the vote in the lower house. He didn’t get elected, but he gave it a crack. He came close. So he’s a serious player in politics, let’s say, like one day he probably will end up in Parliament. So if he wants to call us communists, I take offence at that. It was our boys literally bashing through lines of communists to ensure that the rally was successful in Melbourne. No one hates us more than communists.

 

This idea that we’re somehow the same as communists, just racist or something, is ridiculous! Fundamentally, communists, historically. What was the opposition movement in Europe when communists threatened to take over Europe? It was the National Socialists and the fascists that fought the biggest war in human history to prevent communists from taking over Europe. Why did Hitler get elected in Germany? Why did the people support Mussolini? Why were fascist governments popping up all throughout Central Europe and beyond, Spain, Eastern Europe? Why? Because the people feared the rise of communism and they turned to the fascists to stop communists. Fascism is the antidote to communism! Fascism is the break glass option when the communists start taking over. That’s what motivated the people of Europe to get behind National Socialism and fascism, was the rise of communism.

 

So this idea that we’re all the same is just insane! It’s ridiculous! These movements are bitter enemies! Why are they bitter enemies? Because they fundamentally have a totally opposite view of human nature. Communists, they deny the reality of race. They view basically all men as being created equal. And they see all inequality between peoples, whether they be groups or individuals, as the product of artificial forms of exploitation created by structures of power within society. And they therefore want to tear down those structures of power and engage in their revolutionary activity to destroy society. Because basically any kind of function within society which ensures a distinction of quality, that people who contribute more are rewarded more than people who contribute less, that people who have more to offer are given more access than people who have less to offer, and so on.

 

Any kind of quality control within society they view as immoral, they view as something that needs to be destroyed, and therefore they want to destroy quality. Equality is the opposite of quality, should be called a-quality because equality is basically a prohibition on qualitative judgements between human beings being socially enforced in any kind of way. That’s what communists believe in.

 

What National Socialists believe in. National Socialists don’t just believe in the value of race and wanting to defend our race. Obviously that’s an integral. But National Socialists believe in hierarchy. National Socialists defended private property against Communists in the Weimar Republic. National Socialists defended hierarchical structures and supported the creation through the SS of a new aristocracy in Europe, supported eugenic breeding practices, supported a whole series of social reforms that would elevate the good blood, elevate people of quality into positions of power and esteem and status. It was about breeding up the race and therefore elevating society according to aristocratic principles.

 

So it’s a totally antithetical ideology, which is why communists allied with liberals against National Socialists and why to this day the communists ally with the forces of liberalism, the forces of capitalism against us!

 

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So why would they be sitting on the far-Left and us on the far-Right if we had the same views? It’s a fundamentally insane position. So I challenge Stuart to a debate. Let’s set it up. There’s people I’ve spoken to behind the scenes that would be interested in potentially hosting it who don’t endorse fundamentally what I believe, but would think that it would be interesting. I think it would do views. I think NSN versus One Nation, the debate would be fun. He seems like a good sport.

 

If you want to talk shit online, back it up! Debate me! If you really believe that National Socialists are just like racist communists, let’s debate the subject or retract the statement if you’re not willing to actually back it up in a debate.

 

The other thing that I would like to address, I guess, is this “hijack narrative”, this view that:

 

“Oh, the NSN came in and just hijacked the March for Australia!”

 

No, we participated. We didn’t hijack. We worked with the other people in the march, and we were welcome in the march, as I said. We were literally given an ovation by the other rally goals when we showed up in Sydney. In Melbourne, we basically ran the whole thing and made the whole thing possible. We were helping and facilitating the march. And we had a core objective which we stated publicly before the march, which was to prevent, you know, establishment conservative, Zionist and other foreign forces from subverting the march and watering down its message. And I think we more or less executed on those objectives.

 

So if you’re happy with how nationalist the march was, with how pure its message was and so on, there’s other people to thank. But you should be also thanking us. We help to contribute to that eventuality, and we will help in future March for Australia events in a similar way.

 

And I think we earned it. No one else literally fought their way through hordes of communists to facilitate the March for Australia except the NSN.

 

So it’s like credit where credit’s fucking due! We got guys that are doing time now over facilitating that march.

 

Yeah, let’s just do some Superchats I guess and end the stream because I think Blair is off. White Triple Six said:

 

“Sending well wishes from Minnesota. Free Thomas Sewell!”

 

Yes, Free Thomas Sewell. I Was Made Up gifted subscriptions. Why are you gifting me subscriptions? Just send a Superchat. It’s kind of weird! What am I going to do with subscriptions? Joey JoJo12345 said:

 

“If you haven’t joined the NSN or at least given money, are you even White?”

 

Good point. Support the org. Evon626 said:

 

“There should be a call to a rally that says if you marched in Melbourne and you were not attacked, it is because of Tom Sewell preventing it.”

 

Well, I mean I think that was made clear that the boys secured the position in Melbourne very effectively. The footage makes that blatantly clear and eyewitness accounts of the day makes that blatantly clear.

 

Now there’s a lot of talk about this rally on in September 13, which is a cuck rally basically, which is a lot of the elements that were pushed out of August 31st who wanted to water August 31st down and cuck it out, or who counter signaled August 31st for being staunchly nationalist in its messaging. They consolidated to organise the September 13 March, which is a cringe display like the poster. It’s not the same thing.

 

A lot of people think incorrectly that it’s the same thing as the March for Australia or like some kind of continuity from the March for Australia. No one involved in the March for Australia is going to be involved in this rally.

 

And I would say to patriots stay home! Fuck this rally! Boycott this rally! Now okay, it’s got some all right issues here, but it’s like “Australia unites against government corruption”. This is the poster. Like this is vague! A rally against mass immigration, it’s a very controversial, spicy existential issue, one single issue obviously paired with the notion of Australian identity. But that’s what makes mass immigration an issue. It wasn’t just a rally about the housing crisis caused by mass immigration or economic consequences of mass immigration, but specifically, obviously mass immigration has economic consequences, but specifically the fact that mass immigration is destroying our national identity. And it was the assertion of our national identity and the defense of our national identity that animated Aug. 31, and will animate future March for Australia events and rallies and so on.

 

This is what conservatives always do. “Social media, ban digital ID”. Like they’re just like slapping together “Reform immigration policies”. Like what does that even mean? They slap together a whole series of vague issues and you think:

 

“Oh well I agree on those issues, I guess that’s a good thing.”

 

But then what is the meaning of this march going to be? This march is not going to police foreign flags. You’re going to see foreign flags, you’re going to see abo flags everywhere. It’s not going to be a sea of White Aussies with Aussie flags. It’s going to be a shit show, a admixture of all these different garbage side quest groups or watered down ideological groups. There’s even people that are marching explicitly against racism, against Nazism, in defense of Aboriginal sovereignty and all this shit! It’s like this hodgepodge of disparate groups. There’s no fundamental meaning or purpose to any of this. It was slapped together simply because August 31st was happening. They were salty that they couldn’t ruin it. And so now they’ve got to do their own cuck event.

 

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And they’ll bring out a bunch of politicians and cuckservative speakers and so on onto the stage. They won’t get the turnout like last time. It won’t be interesting. It won’t count for anything. Don’t go! Fuck this bd! And if Antifa show up and bash everyone there in Melbourne, in the other cities it’s relatively safe. But if they ever show up in Melbourne and beat up everyone there, the NSN would be there to protect you. Good luck! Sorry to say, like if there’s grandmas or whatever, we love our grandmas that are misguided, but don’t let your grandma go to this.

 

Don’t let people go to this is garbage much for Australia. Will do another rally soon. They’re in talks, from what I’ve heard discussion of maybe a late October rally. But I don’t know for sure. I guess we’ll find out. Wait for that. Proper patriot anti-immigration rally and focus on building momentum up for Australia Day and having big march, anti-immigration marches, seas of Aussie flags. That’s what we want. The rationale here is like:

 

“Well, if we water it down, we’ll get more of a turnout.”

 

I think they’ll get less of a turnout. That’s why you should stay home and tell everyone you know to stay home and not go to this. Because I want the proof to be in the evidence of the images that we see from this rally that it’s a much weaker turnout than August 31st, to show that the energy on the Australian Right is for nationalism. It’s not for this hodgepodge of freedom movement and conservative issues or something. The energy is specifically about nationalism, it’s specifically about immigration. That’s what’s turning people out. That’s what people are angry about.

 

And that’s all that we should really be discussing because that’s the core existential issue. Not that we shouldn’t talk about free speech and other issues, but that needs to be the central animating issue of the Australian right. And if it isn’t, it’s because somebody is a non-White themselves and wants to defend their position in Australia. Someone is a careerist in the political scene and wants to avoid controversy so they can ingratiate themselves with the establishment. It’s one of those two things why someone would want to put on this cuck rally to compete with the March for Australia.

 

Rygo Weber said:

 

“I was at the Melbourne march and was super proud of the boys for protecting everyone. I saw the boys smash through the blockades and numerous normal Aussies cheering on Tom during his speech.”

 

Yes. I’ve just heard only good reports from people that I know that went there that weren’t part of the organisation. And I’m very proud of the boys, what they did in Melbourne. Everyone I know that was in Melbourne has told me that it was the fucking best day of their lives! That it was just fucking awesome! Anarchy on the streets of Melbourne, bashing commies, leading the charge of the patriots.

 

I did feel, I’ll be honest, I did feel kind of sad. I already was feeling sad I was going to miss out on the Melbourne march. It was good that I was in Sydney. We had a really good rally in Sydney. I gave a speech, Jack Eltis gave a speech, another gentleman from the Org gave a speech, and we had a great day out with the NSN in Sydney. Shook hundreds and hundreds of hands! So many people came up to me to thank me for what I was doing, to show their support. We had a great night! Sinking beers with the patriots. It was a great day, great evening, and I loved it! And I was glad to be here in Sydney.

 

But at the same time, the Melbourne rally was just like fireworks! Like and I knew it was going to be fireworks and so I do feel a little bit sad to have missed out. But what a day! What a day for the boys. DJ Triumph said:

 

“Hail Sewell! Hope he returns as leader sooner rather than later. God forbid he ends up martyr for the movement. I have faith the NSM will continue its forward momentum. Blood and honour!”

 

Yeah, well, he will be back out of prison. Hopefully sooner rather than later. I mean, hopefully he gets bail and he has the chance to come out, get his affairs in order, get shit together before, if he does have to serve time before serving it, rather than just being stuck in there. But we’re preparing for the worst, hoping for the best! That’s what we’re doing and we appreciate your support.

 

I know a lot of people have been saying the GiveSendGo is down. We raised $75,000 in like a day through GiveSendGo. Incredible outpouring of support. Then GiveSendGo withheld the donation. Like they basically shut it down and put it under review. We’ve been in contact with GiveSendGo trying to get it restored.

 

So if they don’t restore it, there’s going to be a big problem for GiveSendGo. GiveSendGo, this is a website which enabled that nigger who stabbed a White guy and killed him to raise half a million dollars! This is supposed to be the Right-wing free speech, you know, fundraising platform. They facilitated that. People want to donate money so that Thomas Sewell and the boys can defend themselves in court against charges people feel is unjust. Where they were out trying to have an anti-immigration rally here in Melbourne or here in Australia. Communist pieces of shit engaged in violence to try and stop that. And the boys have now cop charges standing up to those communists. A lot of people, a lot of pro-White people around the world, particularly in Australia, want to support a legal defense to keep these guys out of prison because they recognise that what they did was morally good. Now you can have a position that violence is bad or whatever, but at the end of the day they’re entitled to a legal defense. That’s what the money is being raised for. The money isn’t being raised to go and like pay for people to go and beat up Aboriginals or something it’s to facilitate a good legal defense. Tom and the boys.

 

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So there is simply no justification for GiveSendGo not restoring this. Now we’re giving them a chance to restore it is under review. They haven’t said that:

 

“Nah! It’s over, fuck you!”

 

They haven’t told us to fuck off! If it’s just going to go under review for a few days and they restore it, then okay, that’s okay. It is what it is if they don’t restore it’s going to be a big PR problem for GiveSendGo.

 

A lot of people are going to be very angry and we’ll keep you guys updated as to whether it gets restored or denied or what. So keep an eye out and we’ll let you know. Dimmer 1313 said:

 

“How’s recruitment growing? Has there been an increase in interest since Sunday?”

 

Yes, a lot of recruits coming in. A lot of new people getting vetted that I know about in Melbourne, in Sydney. I’m sure around the country the chapters are growing in numbers and a lot of people have signed up as a supporter. White Australia.org. You should do it right now. If you’re an Australian citizen, sign up as a political supporter@white Australia.org. If you’re a sign up as a social supporter, upgrade to political supporter. Because if you’re a social supporter, that doesn’t necessarily help us to get registered as a political party. You need to be a political supporter so that we can you can be a member of the party proper. When we get registered with the AEC, we need to build this political party. We need to have a big, robust, thick membership so that we can maintain our registration. If it’s like 1, 501 then they can audit a few people and if people don’t return their calls or emails or something, they can cancel the registration.

 

So we need to have a glut of members! We need when you get into the 2000s, the 3000s, the 4000s of political supporters. So please sign up White Australia.org. It costs you nothing. We’ve got very good security. We’re going to do everything we can to protect your identity.

 

Before we register as a party, we’re going to send out information on how you can register as a silent elector so that you can ensure that your name can’t be searched up on the political electoral role. On the electoral role, I should say. Google it right now. How to be a silent elector. Everyone watching this, if you’re in Australia, Google how to be a silent elector. Become a silent elector right now. Just get your name off publicly accessible electoral rolls. It’s very simple. It’s very easy to do. That protects your identity regardless of whether you sign up as a supporter or not.

 

But in particular, you should do that if you want to sign up as a supporter. But we’re not even registering as a party just yet. We’re going to give you warning and send out information on how to do that. But we on our end have really good security, really good protection. Like, if not us, then who? We’re the only people in this country that are going to build a proper, uncompromising, White nationalist political party that has a chance at truly changing the political system in Australia. Completely a wrench into the system. That’s what we are! No one is going to have policies like us. No one is going to have notoriety like us. No one is as effective as us, as we’re going to be in, anywhere close in changing the conversation and subverting the narrative.

 

And ultimately, I really do feel confident we can get people elected. We can get the first Nazis elected basically anywhere in the world in the 21st century here in Australia. WhiteAustralia.org! Like sign up support us. Everything we do is for White Australia! That’s like the be all and end all for us.

 

So if you’re a White Australian, why would you not support a political party that just wants not just to secure this country for the race, but to enable this country to thrive, to restore our national sovereignty, which is under attack economically, militarily and so on. We want to seize control of the banks. We want to delete your mortgages. We want to get rid of usury. We want to make it. We want to rebuild the middle class. We want to pay your misses to stay home and breed White babies. We want to restore the White race in this country. We want the great Australian dream. Big White families. Everyone owns their own home. We have a plan to do it. So White Australia.org!

 

Michael underscore Goldberg 123 said:

 

“What happened to the GiveSendGo?”

 

I just addressed that. RL Underscore Nationalist said:

 

“So you can kill an innocent child and get 2k fine. But if you have a different political opinion, you get a year jail?”

 

Yeah, so, I mean, that was a story where were they Indian, were they Pakistani? There was some kind of like brown subcontinental garbage. They literally ran over and killed a school child. Were they even in school yet? Were they like a preschooler? Like a young child, … Walked away without prison with a small fine. I mean that’s just insane! Like they recklessly endangering children’s lives, killing them, no retribution. But Tom can’t even get bail.

 

So obviously putrid anti-White system! That’s what we’re dealing with. Spencey101 said:

 

“In the first fight you can see a communist who instigated violence wearing gloves inside the designated zone. When gloves are strictly prohibited, his face is shown. Why hasn’t he been arrested?”

 

This is a great point.

 

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So the whole Melbourne CBD was a designated area, which means police can search people for weapons. And if you’re carrying illegal weapons, obviously that’s illegal. And wearing bike gloves if you’re not actually riding a motorcycle is illegal in Australia because they enable you to beat someone up with more effectively, obviously.

 

Anyway, I think it’s kind of a ridiculous law, but nevertheless it is the law.

 

But yeah, Antifa were allowed to have weapons, prohibited weapons and they still got their arse handed to them even though the police have a total double standard. Lieb Dick said:

 

“Good to see you at the march in Sydney, Joel. My mates and I all agreed that it felt much safer and in good hands with the vanguard up front. Hail the vanguard. Hail White Australia. Was good to see you too.”

 

I’m not sure exactly who you are, obviously, but so many people came up and said hello and I really appreciated that if you do see me, I am an approachable guy. If you’re a friendly person, if you’re a supporter. It happens a lot when I go out in public these days. You can come have a chat. I don’t mind. You don’t have to be intimidated. I know I can be intimidating, but I’m actually a nice guy. Lion Cross said:

 

“The September 13th rally is going to be a mess. Antifa regrouping and building bigger numbers to retaliate. Wouldn’t surprise if it gets rolled without the NSN.”

 

Yep. Well, that’s their problem. Hail Yay said:

 

“Shook hands with you before the march in Sydney. Sucks. Tom got arrested.”

 

Yeah, it does. It sucks! Good bloke said:

 

“Would people be judged purely on ancestry or in demonstrated loyalty and contribution to the nation?”

 

Of course we judge people on loyalty and contribution to the nation. It is blood and honour! Not just blood. Blood is worthless without honour. And Good bloke also said:

 

“Would deportations be part of the plan?”

 

Or maybe this is like a multi-Superchat thing. He said:

 

“Would deportation be part of the plan? If so, who would qualify? Migrants only. Or Australian citizens born here as well?”

 

Yeah, just because you have an Australian citizenship doesn’t mean we can’t deport you. Particularly if you’re a dual citizen, or if we can trace your ancestry to some other third world country, we can revoke citizenship and deport people to their shithole of ancestral origin. Ultra Saxon said:

 

“When I look at a man like Sewell I feel as though I’m looking at a Fuhrer as an Anglo Saxon. It makes me feel proud to know Thomas my kin. Hail Sewell!”

 

Well indeed. Thomas Sewell is a supreme gentleman and he just had like a goat run, like what a week. What a week he just had!

 

What have we got more Superchats here? I’m just scrolling through on Entropy the ThinRedLine said:

 

“Thank you NSN from Europe. Free Thomas Sewell! Joel, would you do a stream with Eric Striker?”

 

Well many years ago I did a few with Eric Striker. He talked a lot of shit about me in the time since we had been on good terms. And I did challenge him to a debate on Australian nationalism. Eric Striker claims to be a National Socialist but out of his personal animosity towards me he agreed with the position that Australia doesn’t need National Socialism and should embrace some kind of non-National Socialist nationalism. So I offered to debate him and he left me on scene.

 

Open Borders for Israel said:

 

“Hail Tom, hail Blair, Hail Joel and hail the NSN!”

 

Well thank you. Annabellacaust said:

 

“One month subscriber streak.”

 

Some Not on the Net said:

 

“Booing the acknowledgment of country Anzac Day is the future. Every major city on Anzac Day. It would be great optics for normies yet.”

 

Well next year if they do Welcome to Country at the Anzac Day services, you better all be there, and you better all be booing because it’s just disgusting! I mean that is the day of all days. It is the last day for that shit! Brian said:

 

“Great stream! Hail victory!”

 

I appreciate it. And I saw Annabellacaust left a Superchat last week asking:

 

“How does one approach the lads on Sunday?”

 

Obviously this was in before the rally last week. And it’s as simple as just simply seeing us and coming and saying hello, obviously.

 

So anyway, great stream tonight! I hope you guys enjoyed it. I thought it was a good episode despite Blair’s technical difficulties. And I put up a black sheet behind me which I thought looked quite good. Kind of thought that looked quite nice. I’m gonna do that in the future. But the idea to put it up was literally a few minutes before we started streaming, and so I just used like some shitty tape that I found lying around the house. And about an hour into the stream, the tape gave out. So I think I’m gonna have to get hooks or something for next time.

 

But I think it was a good look! In the chat. Do you like the black sheet? If you like the black sheet, put HH, …

 

[sound cut out for a couple of minutes]

 

I don’t understand why it just like mutes, and then I have to unmute it. I was just going through Superchats.

 

But yeah, what like a technical fuckfest of a stream! I apologise to the patriots out there. The Mossad has been fucking with me. There was a few other Superchats here that I read out. They were pretty like mid Superchats. I’m not going to read them again. What I will say, did you guys hear me talk about the black sheet? I don’t think anyone heard me talk about the black sheet.

 

So what I said was I put the black sheet up at the beginning of the stream. I think it looked good. Yeah, you talked about. So if you like the black sheet, I need to get hooks or something. Put HH. If you don’t like the black sheet, put F, and we’ll see who wins HH or F. You heard this part? We’re getting HHs. Okay. I think we’re going to bring the black sheet back. People saying, add runes to the black sheet. Look, one step at a time. One step at a time. But Heidi Allen said:

 

“No to the black sheet. It looks shit!”

 

I’m getting F’s in the chat! I thought the black sheet looked good! It’s polarizing opinion. I was expecting the black sheet to be popular, but it’s really polarizing opinion. People are saying Aussie flag. Well, look, someone votes for giant hooks. Yeah, well, the hooks are coming. People are demanding runes. Okay, it’s gonna be, … Okay. Who can sew? Who’s good at arts and crafts? Because, you’re making all these demands, like, …

 

But yeah, there’s one Superchat here. Some guy pretending to be a fed. TND 1488, White power saying:

 

“Hail Australia!”

 

And Rygo Weber saying:

 

“That NSN fight video smashing Antifa was so good, it reminded me of the 300 movie.”

 

And like, I love that video of the boys smashing Antifa so much. It’s fucking awesome! But I honestly, I can’t help but feel like I missed out and it makes me depressed. It seemed like the best day ever! Aussie Narralist, I presume he spelled nationalist wrong by mistake said:

 

“His wife will knit me one.”

 

Well, hit me up in the DMs. If your wife is going to knit me one, let me know.

 

But look. Hail White Australia! White power, blood and honour! Hail victory! We’re done. We’re done for the evening. I’m going to end the stream there. Hope you enjoyed the show. See you all next week.

 

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GusHayden
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53 minutes ago
Someone stole bro sheet
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GusHayden
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1 hour ago
This is the stuff of folklore, this is the stuff of legend. ~ Joel Davis
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GusHayden
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1 hour ago
Blair was 100% spot on around that 27min mark. He was in the zone big time
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EarthlingCarl
2 hours ago
No offence but I think you guys really need to have more self control as going around getting involved in these fights is just giving the state what they want (it doesn’t matter if you were attacked first). Tom being locked up for 2 years is a nightmare for a movement that’s just getting going.
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WhiteWulfWodanaz
3 hours ago
The arrest of Thomas might have a positive of shutting people up who call you Feds
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Soozysuz
3 hours ago
Melbourne was awesome!! Fuck the commies!
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WhiteWulfWodanaz
4 hours ago
I appreciate Blair being honest and addressing that the camp sovereignty fight was in bad judgement. It’s great to see our guys learning from their mistakes and only getting better. Hail Australia
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WhiteWulfWodanaz
4 hours ago
I also appreciate what Joel said, that who Thomas is means that you gotta take the good with the bad. And overall it’s good. I do feel sorry for Tom though, I wish him all the best in the world and a swift release into freedom
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WhiteWulfWodanaz
4 hours ago
Fully agree with Joel that this march was so successful in making people realise they aren’t alone as Nationalists. I know it did so with me. Also agree with Blair that we need to direct that new energy into tangible results like a NS Party
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WhiteWulfWodanaz
4 hours ago
Love Joel’s anti black pill speech
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LaserFash
4 hours ago
Tom, and the leadership at large, needs to delegate the punching and rowdy behavior to the ranks. Be a leader and learn to delegate!
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Bigboy6669
5 hours ago
Hail Thomas sewell
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Soozysuz
5 hours ago
I really hope Tom gets out sooner rather than later. His speech was incredible and not one person I saw turned away, because he was right! Look forward to a massive Australia Day March with millions!
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ForRealers
5 hours ago
We should plaster that antifa dudes face all over the polices social media accounts and demand his arrest
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palacepony
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5 hours ago
That’s a cool clip Joel @ 55:00
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imSofaKingRayZest
6 hours ago
communism is judaism
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palacepony
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6 hours ago
Joel sound disappears for around 5 mins @ 37:00 mins. Returns 40:20? Stream beset with a few tech difficulties. Still, a worthy watch. Thanks lads
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imSofaKingRayZest
6 hours ago
white australia will not slip quietly into the night
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TVR_
6 hours ago
Black sheet goes hard. The flag would be better.
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imSofaKingRayZest
6 hours ago
free thomas sewell t shirts
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SilphC0
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7 hours ago
Blair always makes such good, sober points. One massive issue with the active clubs around the world is that they’re chock full of grug brain deliquent criminals just looking for opportunities to fight. They simply espouse nationalism as their raison d’être because it gets them closer to punching faces. I just saw some dude, “will2rise” make a video sounding like a total n*gg*r laughing about being in jail for 8 years and how it’s just “whatever”. Active club? Prison is the definition of inactivity. Strategically, our guys should always be doing the utmost to avoid the judicial system but instead the movement is like 90% our guys literally KO’ing eachother all week long and getting brain damage. They never even use their violence against the enemy, it’s ridiculous. Of course these risks are most prevalant for leadership and that’s what makes them so honourable but normalizing going to jail is just being a n*gg*r. The obsession with violence and fighting within organizations edges guys so hard they can’t restrasin themselves from the impulse once they encounter the smallest opportunity. It’s an aspect worth reevaluating.
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TruthWillSetYouFree1488
7 hours ago
Talk about Chabad Lubavitch
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WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE
7 hours ago
TEAM WHITE UNITE
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Jak_85
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9 hours ago
Joel Davis’ speeches are alway chilling and legendary. Thomas Sewell does best in the face of adversity and his theological talks are epic
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TuckerLimehouse
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9 hours ago
It’s becoming clear around the world, we can either fight along side the NS and keep what’s left of our civilizations, or we can be subjects of Communist tyranny.
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NateAus
9 hours ago
great to meet you at the march, got on a video with you on becfreedoms instagram page, keep fighting the good fight
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SunkToTheNutz
9 hours ago
Blair’s right, Joel. Love what you’re doing, but you MUST be more tactical! At this point, Tom being locked up is an unmitigated disaster! Tom’s proven himself long ago, it’s high time to rally the troops with laser-like precision to create a LEGITIMATE new pro-White party. NO more unnecessary blunders!
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LaserFash
4 hours ago
Tom has proven himself enough and doesn’t need to be the one punching anymore. Be a leader and delegate!
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AmalekAvenger
10 hours ago
you need a producer
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hueyvam123
11 hours ago
Where’s the video?
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Celsus
11 hours ago
Subscriptions are more dollars in your pocket than superchats. Check out the difference. Someone gifting a subscription to other chat participants is worth more than superchatting an equivalent amount.
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AmalekAvenger
10 hours ago
what is the best way to get money to the lads ?
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FancypantsandMP5S
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14 hours ago
The black sheet of the family
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palacepony
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10 hours ago
HaHa the Antique glass & house doorway painted white is the true optic winner here
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radi8wl
14 hours ago
Sorry Blair, really! I was one of the few i suppose who defended you on social media back when you were in the spotlight, but right now you are being a negative Nancy, you may think that you sound like a ‘civilized rational high iq gentleman’ with all your quoting of laws, ‘concern’and faux intellectualism, but you just sound scared and effeminate, we need our White Men wielding Power, justly but unmercifully! No amount of pathetic crying from jews,poc, sympathetic White Women should sway our men from doing what is Right and that’s 95%+ population of Whites in White countries! Mixed race, race mixers,poc and all Whites that sympathize w other races above their own go with them bc obv their dna is defective. I’m GenX and the feminization of men is scary even the ones in in the so called dissident right. No dig at you, but Tom is the ONLY man in the ‘far right’ with the not only a high iq, but truly understand the big esoteric picture (except he’s fallen for the jew false characterization of Jesus). Most women are sick to death of cowardly White Men blathering on their podcasts trying to disassociate themselves from the nazzzzeeeeeesssss all while grifting other Whites who are praying for the next Hitler archetype to emerge, it’s ALL that’s happening in USA since the optics cucks won after UTR,we don’t need anymore effin papers, or ‘waking up the normies’ there is nothing new under the sun. And if covid taught us anything, the normies will do what they’re told! I only wish Tom was in America, where all the ‘White Men’sound like you or they’re sheep dipped with retarded jew pagan symbols tattooed on their face, proving to everyone they make bad decisions, or mixed race or civnats, even the guy starting the ‘White’ town has mixed-race family members and defends them lmfao so pathetic here in usa
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Australian_Terra
10 hours ago
Criticising a bad decision doesn’t make him effeminate.
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FancypantsandMP5S
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13 hours ago
The man that sticks by his mixed race family members is a better man than the one that cuts them off. He is obviously making the best of other family members bad choices. Blair is a good guy not everyone on the right has to agree on everything the guy is not a follower
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JFurM
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14 hours ago
Not surprising but still disappointing for the sake of the movement here in the US, Nick Fuentes criticizing NSN during the March, you don’t see him out there being active!
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radi8wl
14 hours ago
At the 54min mark had to pause.I’m sorry Blair, we love you, you were ahead of your time in oz, I know you weren’t turned or a subversive, but you sound like your girlfriend talking or any 2013 conservative. It sounds like everything that you’re saying is for some possible future jury in defense of yourself for associating with Thomas. Like you have ptsd and are stuck in whatever year it was when you fought pedo’s in the street. That was Noble you shouldn’t be ashamed. If associating with nsm has you this fearful, maybe take a break bc you’re doing exactly what the optics cucks did here in usa after unite the right. Tbh if you weren’t Blair Cottrell I’d think you were a subversive We need real White Men that have the courage of their convictions. Tom is the Hero we need, the Germans did nothing wrong, it’s 2025 and people know Hitler was the good guy, even if they don’t say it out loud to strangers… Yet!
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Australian_Terra
10 hours ago
Charging the hill was dumb. That’s all he’s saying.
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freedomfighter356
8 hours ago
mate they already won they could’ve called the police told them what was happening and left Tom and some of the boys could get up to 5 years in jail Thomas Sewel is legit 50% of the group and its growth
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imSofaKingRayZest
6 hours ago
2 motorbike cops were across the road from where a 2 on 50 gang bashing took place and the did NOTHING
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JFurM
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15 hours ago
And exactly what the government wants is NSN to be afraid with all the ridiculous legal nonsense they throw at them, and if that doesn’t work they probably will threaten or enact violence against NSN members, but that’s exactly why the boys need to keep growing in number and keep pushing on.
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JFurM
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15 hours ago
We do really need to boost and cheer on our Aussie brothers and sisters though, because if they can’t succeed with Nationalism, there is t much hope for the rest of us Anglo nations.
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Australian_Terra
15 hours ago
Charging the hill was regarded.
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Dissident_Loner
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15 hours ago
I feel really sorry for Tom. A good hearted man who looked after orphans. I saw him on PWR with his daughter the other day. His kids are being traumatised. Similar thing with Sam Melia. The Jews behind this are absolutely evil and their Shabbos Goy traitor puppets equally so. They are lashing out in desperation now because they know what fate awaits them when nationalist take power.
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GusHayden
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1 hour ago
Don’t feel sorry for him. He has God on his side, and he knows it. A lot of us do.
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JFurM
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15 hours ago
Agree with Joel and Blair (pertaining to the impact of the events of the march specifically with the NSN and Tom) yes, Tom’s myths as a leader is cemented but also yes, it’s getting more dangerous. Just look at what’s going on with the AFD party in Germany! Not a reason to cower, but to count the cost and keep going
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imSofaKingRayZest
6 hours ago
7 dead afd politicians in 3 weeks and the eu has said if the afd win german election they will annul elections blocking them from taking any power ever. stay frosty my white brothers.
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Sullivista
16 hours ago
So many fucking commercials
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ItWasMadeUp
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16 hours ago
$5 a month subscription to his channel, makes it ad-free & you will be supporting Joel.
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Trying567
17 hours ago
I’ve tried to boost the other side of the story in comments online, but yeah, the move to charge the hill by the NSN was a major optical blunder. There were enough of them, too, that they probably could have gone to either side of the hill and just done retaliatory defense.
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TheBeardedIndian
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18 hours ago
Jacinta Allan’s face looks droopy like a Basset Hound.
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katana17
10 hours ago
Basset Hound’s object to this comparison!
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ProletAryan
18 hours ago
I like eric strikers analysis on many subjects but after listening to his podcast for about a year or so, I get the feeling that he has some animosity towards Anglo cultures and Australians in general over some Anglos Vs Wogs complex he has. He has complained about and mentioned before that family members of his who came to Australia to work from South America were supposedly not respected or treated well in Australia.
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Jak_85
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13 hours ago
I’ve noticed the Med v Northerner nuanced splits over the years as well. It’s subtle but explains a lot.
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PureWhitey
19 hours ago
When Blair is on point he’s got command presence. A powerful speaker.
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TheQueensGuard
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19 hours ago
Joels mic disappeared for like 5 minutes that was aids cunt
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GusHayden
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1 hour ago
Intercepted….
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freedomfighter356
21 hours ago
Blair’s right what Thomas did was stupid, and generally terrible for the movement
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evon626
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21 hours ago
Boost this question to GiveSendGo asking why they froze White Australia funds: https://x.com/origindevel/status/1964669272745230355
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Dumpstertron
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23 hours ago
Fuck you Joel!! Fully on board with the NSN agenda but went to shake your hand in Sydney at the August 31 march, but your boys baulked that shit
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mharrison52
20 hours ago
people like joel must have body guards. surely you understand why.
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freedomfighter356
21 hours ago
why?
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TheQueensGuard
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probably coz ur jewish lad
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katana17
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[Blair Cottrell – Australians Unite to Stop Immigration – Aug 31, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/09/03/blair-cottrell-australians-unite-to-stop-immigration-aug-31-2025-transcript/ [In this video Australian pro-White activist Blair Cottrell gives a running commentary and interactions during his attendance at the Melbourne “March for Australia” event held on August 31, 2025. – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 2,290 – Duration: 21 mins]
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[Thomas Sewell’s Speech at the March for Australia Rally in Melbourne – Aug 31, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/09/06/thomas-sewells-speech-at-the-march-for-australia-rally-in-melbourne-aug-31-2025-transcript/ [Aussie pro-White nationalist activist, founder of NSN, Tom Sewell gives a rallying speech at the March for Australia event in Melbourne on Sun, August 31, 2025: – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 855 – Duration: 8:30 mins]
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[Joel Davis – Patriots in Control of the Streets – Aug 29, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/09/05/joel-davis-patriots-in-control-of-the-streets-aug-29-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists and NSN members Joel Davis and Jacob Hersant discuss the coming March for Australia event that was held on Sunday, August 31st in Australian capital cities to protest against mass immigration. – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 18,189 – Duration: 111 mins]
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Blair Cottrell: What do you guys think about mass immigration into Australia?

 

 

Teenager: Fucking deport them all! Deport them all!

 

Woman: (with No Nazis sign on her shirt front) Are you a proud Australia?

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Something’s happening!

 

 

[Walking with others to the event]

 

Male: No, you’ll be fine:

 

“You’re putting everyone’s lives in danger.”

 

And all this shit! It’s the same event, …

 

 

Male: Hi Blair!

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, boys, what’s up? I’m trying to squeeze through. Hey, Sewell. How’s it going?

 

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, good to see you.

 

Blair Cottrell: How’s everything so far?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, the update is we’re waiting for the other organisers. We’ve ejected Avi Yemini.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I heard that.

 

Thomas Sewell: And that’s about it.

 

Blair Cottrell: You all right? You got hit?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I got pepper sprayed.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay. You recovered quick.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Hello.

 

 

Woman: Hello.

 

Anyway, good to see you. Good to see you.

 

Woman: Yeah, nice.

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks for coming. Glad you can make it. I’m so glad.

 

Hello. How’s it going?

 

Woman: Hi, Blair. Nice to meet you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Nice to meet you.

 

Excuse me, guys. I’m just going to try to get through to the commotion, to see what’s going on right there.

 

Man: Good on you Blair!

 

Avi’s right there.

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Where is he? I can’t see., … He’s really small in real life, Avi. It’s really hard to see him.

 

Man: It’s Sunday, Avi! No work on down on the Shabbath?

 

Blair Cottrell: Excuse me, guys. Troysa, what’s going on?

 

Man: We love you Blair.

 

Blair Cottrell: Have a good one. Thanks, lads.

 

 

So I think what just happened, the path we were planning to march down was blocked. I don’t know who was blocking it, but the crowd just broke through.

 

Good on you, mate. Cheers!

 

It’s a huge march. The numbers here are crazy! I didn’t expect this many people.

 

Excuse me, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry.

 

Man: How you going, mate?

 

Blair Cottrell: Good, bro. Cheers!

 

 

This is crazy! So many people. This is even bigger than the lockdown protests. Feels bigger. The energy is just electric! Everyone’s so pumped! Media goons and government bureaucrats telling everyone not to go. Looks like it had the opposite effect.

 

Woman: Blair!

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, how’s it going? Good to see you. Thanks for coming.

 

Something’s happening!

 

[running down the street]

 

So what’s happening is, eggs and water bottles and cans are being thrown by these, … What are they? Socialists? Communists? They’re throwing cans of fruit and eggs and full bottles of people. Someone just got hit in the head with a can of fruit, and there’s no cops! Everyone’s just fighting it.

 

 

[crowd booing and jeering]

 

 

So what happened back there was crazy! The march for Australia was set upon by a counter-protest. Cans of fruit, eggs and full bottles were launched at people trying to march.

 

 

There were no police initially, but the counter-protesters, they don’t seem all that serious on actually fighting because despite there being no police there initially, they didn’t actually charge into the March for Australia. They kind of hung back a few. Few meters and just threw missiles. It seems to have held the march up for maybe five minutes, but hasn’t had much of an impact on the spirit. If anything, it’s just agitated people further.

 

 

This crowd is absolutely massive! What I’m looking at now is what seems to be, I don’t know, somewhere between five and 10,000 people, just completely filling, … What street is this?

 

Woman: Burke Street.

 

Blair Cottrell: Burke Street.

 

Woman: The media said a few hundred people.

 

Blair Cottrell: A few hundred?

 

Woman: The media.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, they will, yeah. Why do the media say there’s only a few hundred people when there’s clearly thousands?

 

 

 

Woman: They’re going with the agenda.

 

Blair Cottrell: What agenda is that?

 

Woman: To destroy us.

 

Blair Cottrell: To destroy us.

 

Woman: To take our freedom.

 

 

Blair Cottrell: This is crazy! There’s just. There’s no police escort, there’s no security, nothing.

 

 

This is just Australian patriots, nationalists, just marching in mass directly through the city!

 

 

 

[A guy handing out leaflets for The Noticer; gives one to Blair]

 

Man: Hey, bro! How you going?

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Good.

 

[shakes hand]

 

So it looks like we’ve just arrived at Parliament. Parliament House, Melbourne.

 

 

 

 

I suppose when you get numbers like this, everyone becomes emboldened. They realise they’re not alone. And so the energy is fire.

 

Excuse me, guys. Cheers.

 

 

Auspilled: And so, as a spokesperson for March for Australia, the announcement I’m about to give is being given across Australia. It is being heard by hundreds of thousands of Australians.

 

 

[Hugo Lennon, aka, Auspilled]

 

After we march here today, I would like every patriot gathered here to participate in Operation Raise the Flag.

 

[crowd cheers]

 

 

I’m honestly surprised they even have the Australian flag up there. [Parliament House]. We must fly the flag every single day at our homes, our work, and in our community. Our brothers in England with their Operation Raise the Colours have been massively successful!

 

 

We must stand in solidarity with them. We have one struggle, and that is to end mass immigration!

 

 

[crowd cheers]

 

Everything you see was built by us!

 

 

[crowd cheers]

 

Harrison McLean: (Australian Freedom Rally) Our single unifying message today is to tell the Australian government to stop mass immigration!

 

 

[crowd cheers]

 

Thomas Sewell: (White Australia) Today, our men stood at the front of the march.

 

 

And when the Palestinians and the communists came charging at the Aussie flags, it was our men that fought back!

 

 

 

[crowd cheers loudly]

 

 

I’m not here to sell you T-shirts. Those people are rallying on a different day.

 

[scuffle in the crowd]

 

Sorry, there’s a disruption. There’s a communist trying to get to the stage.

 

[crowd booing disruptor]

 

If we want to secure our Australia, not their Australia, if we want to secure our Australia and not Parliament’s Australia, then we have to stop immigration and become a nation once again!

 

 

[loud cheers from the crowd]

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, bro.

 

 

Man: Big fan of your work!

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks, man! I appreciate it.

 

Man: I watch your show every week. [Joel and Blair Show]

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, mate. How’s it going?

 

Woman: This is Kyle.

 

Man: Good job., … Started the marching, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Bloody oath! I agree. Hey, bro. How’s it going? Hey, bro. Good, man! It all turned out well, huh?

 

 

Man: Let’s get a photo.

 

Blair Cottrell: Absolutely, man! Let’s do it!

 

 

So we’re walking back to Flinders Street now, back down Bourke street the way we came. The speeches were a huge success. They seem to really invigorate the crowd. Everyone’s united against immigration.

 

Woman: Because we’re all just Aussies and we’re sick of the rot and we’re sick of the crap!

 

 

I was a nurse, I quit with Covid because of the abuse of the elderly, and I’m just over it! And I’m here to represent my people, my country. We love everybody! But if you don’t love our country, don’t come!

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Well said and thanks for coming. Good on you.

 

Man: Love your work, mate.

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks, bro. Legend.

 

Man: Nice to meet you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Nice to meet you.

 

Thanks very much.

 

[11:50]

 

 

So the discussions people are having on the march is they feel that they’re being exploited. They feel the government, with its immigration policy, is taking advantage of Australians, taking advantage of the people here. There’s a fire here! There’s a positive energy, but it’s also a fighting energy. People have had enough. They’re fed up and they’re ready to fight! That’s the vibe I’m getting here.

 

Yeah. Good, bro. How’s it going?

 

 

Woman: Thank you Blair! You’re amazing!

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks very much.

 

Woman: I’m Pru. [shaking hands]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Blair. Nice to meet you.

 

Not really sure why we’ve stopped.

 

 

[crowd chanting; “Move them on! Move them on!”]

 

 

So the march was blocked by counter-protesters. I think they’re communists.

 

 

There was a strong effort by some of the main Leftist agitators, counter-protesters, to get pro-Palestinian protesters, like the Muslim community, on board against us. But it looks like the communists are on their own. It doesn’t look like all the Palestinian protesters have joined them. There’s probably 300 Leftists and at least 5,000 Australians here.

 

 

It’s amazing that this protest was formed organically. It was just online. People were just talking about it. People were sharing it around. No one, no individual had to actually plan this protest or promote it. The people did this themselves. It really speaks to the initiative of the Australian people. When they feel threatened, they take the initiative. They get things moving. They do it on their own!

 

All right, so it doesn’t appear as though the police are actually making a path for the march to continue.

 

 

So everyone started walking down this alleyway. It seems like this might break the crowd up a fair bit. So I hope everyone will be okay. But we’ll see what happens.

 

See, everyone’s just kind of making it up as they go. There’s no direction. This is what happens when police block your path.

 

Man: Hey, bro. How you going?

 

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Good, what’s up?

 

Man: Yo, are you Blair?

 

 

Blair Cottrell: I am, mate. Yeah.

 

Man: Nice to meet you. [shaking hands]

 

Blair Cottrell: Nice to meet you, bro.

 

Man: You say no [word unclear] forever. Love you, mate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, so we’re almost back at Flinders Street.

 

Hey, gang. What’s up, bro? It’s good to see your face, bro.

 

 

[older guy stands together with Blair]

 

Take care of yourself.

 

This guy’s taller than I am. Where’d you find this monster?

 

 

Hey, bro, what’s going on?

 

[shaking hands]

 

It’s smart what the coppers do, though. They basically use the counter-protesters to form human barriers to prevent the march from going down certain directions going down the main streets.

 

So the march stagnates, everyone stands around, gets bored, and then starts dispersing down alleyways, and it basically breaks the event up early. The march successfully got to Parliament in one piece. Everybody made their speeches, the people who wanted to speak.

 

 

So the march was a huge success! This is where things get spicy, though, because now the march isn’t all together and we’re basically walking through Melbourne. Anyone can kind of jump out from anywhere. So if there’s any time to be high alert, it’s now.

 

 

[a guy wants a photo with Blair]

 

Yeah, bro, sure. Let’s do it! Yo, thanks, man!

 

Is that an American bullie, mate? That dog.

 

 

Man: Yeah. Hey. Hey, baby. Nice to meet you. [patting dog] Wow! She reminds me of my old dog.

 

 

I have to get some calories. [holding a drink]

 

 

Man: Australia for the White man, mate!

 

Blair Cottrell: Good on you, bro. Cheers!

 

The march for Australia seems to have arrived back at Flinders Street. Despite a few problems. Most of the people attending the march seem to have had to find their own way back after the main route was blocked by, …

 

Woman: (with “No Nazis: Never Again” Antifa sign on her shirt front) Are you a proud Australia?

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, absolutely! What’s your name?

 

 

Woman: None of your business!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well you approached me, so, …

 

Woman: I’m just saying, why do you feel proud today? Do you feel like everyone’s [word unclear] do you feel like everyone, your know, …

 

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m just proud of who I am and where I come from.

 

Woman: Where do you come from?

 

Blair Cottrell: Australia.

 

Woman: You come from England, by the look of you.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, my family’s from here. How about you?

 

Woman: You’re a fucking dumb shit!

 

 

[She walks straight off]

 

Blair Cottrell: All right. So clearly not everyone here is supportive of the rally!

 

Man: How are you? You had fun?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, good, man!

 

How’s it all going? You happy?

 

 

Thomas Sewell: It was a successful day and we’re just waiting for the communists to go the fuck home, so that we can have fun.

 

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s been a few people here who are starting trouble. Have you had any interactions with Leftists.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, they’ve started probably a thousand fights today and they’ve got smashed every time.

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. I noticed you guys at the front lines kind of protecting the march.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that the role you’re trying to fill?

 

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s one of the roles, yeah. It was a massive success and it shows that the national new system is taking back control.

 

Blair Cottrell: Did you guys go to the march? March for Australia?

 

 

Teenager: No, just got here. But I’m on Australia side.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right, good man. What do you guys think about mass immigration into Australia?

 

Teenager: Fucking deport them all! Deport them all.!

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that your own opinion or did someone tell you to say that? Or you just thought of that yourself?

 

Teenager: No, thought about it myself. I’m a proud Australian, that’s all!

Blair Cottrell: Oh, there you go. The youth’s on board.

What’s up, bro?

 

 

Man: All right, bro.

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks for coming.

 

 

So it seems like some of the protesters are being pushed down this direction by a combination of riot police and mounted police. The riot police have only shown up in the last 15 minutes, curiously, now that the march is off over.

 

[18:40]

 

 

But it seems like when the march is over and people are trying to leave to go home, that’s when things can become pretty violent because people break off from the main contingent, the main protests, and they’re ambushed, going back to their cars in parks, things like that.

 

Man: Yeah, I’m Travis Bickle*. [wearing army green jacket]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Are you from Melbourne?

 

Man: Yeah, I’m from Melbourne.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you know what this march is about?

 

 

Man: Yeah, it’s just to kind of stand up for solidarity for your country.

 

Blair Cottrell: One of the central themes to the march is to stop mass immigration. Do you support that message?

 

Man: Yeah, I do.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you think there’s too much immigration?

 

Man: Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do think there’s too much immigration.

 

[* Travis Bickle is the antihero protagonist of the 1976 film Taxi Driver directed by Martin Scorsese. The character was created by the film’s screenwriter Paul Schrader. He is portrayed by Robert De Niro, who received an Oscar nomination for his performance.]

 

I’m now standing with remnants of the march, who seem to be mixed in with random citizens or people in Melbourne.

 

 

So some people here support the march and some people don’t. And some people don’t even know what’s going on.

 

I know immigration isn’t popular in Australia right now, but I still didn’t expect that many people to show up at a march to stop immigration with minimal planning, minimal promotion. Normally, to get a march of that size, you need a couple of months of promotion. You need institutional support. You need at least a couple of media channels, mainstream media channels on your side. It’s very difficult to get that many people to a protest on short notice, especially when you have no institutional support.

 

 

The institutions are completely against you! Because major media networks and political bureaucrats, government bureaucrats, they told people not to attend this march. They condemned the march before it happened, and they told people not to go! They made it seem like it was going to be violent and dangerous!

 

But the whole thing went off pretty much without a hitch. It’s extremely popular and the energy was great!

 

[20:47]

 

 

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yogafiretate
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32 minutes ago
The nsn is hurting our side stop with the larp already
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ThisIsJamesL
22 hours ago
Good one Blair
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Seanybruv
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You’re a good sport Blair, I would’ve shaken your hand too
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ZetaReticuli777
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TinyHatRemover
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Good work lads! We gotta keep pushing o/
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ajoh355
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awesome video Blair, thanks for posting it
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fkiwi
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I watched Avi’s stream. All he had was a few old boomer retards coming up to him praising and thanking him, no young people. Your experience was the complete opposite. Young proud nationalists stand with you. We are the future, the old boomer civnat liberal order is on its way out.
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IsuckAtLifeThatsWhyINeedGD
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did you see how many older people were in this video? there were plenty! there are likely many more who couldn’t make it, sitting at home feeling grateful and relieved that those who are younger (and some older) are out there making a stand. stop the age hate!
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Inevitable1488
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Australian patriots are spearheading the secured existence of The White Race.
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GirlPurple
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Nice one
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Winstein_Synagoguehill
1 day ago
Brilliant job mate you’re a natural. Don’t want to use the disgusting words “reporter/journalist”. Possibly start an independent media channel on YT.
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SurfSk8Swing
1 day ago
Outstanding, way to go you Aussies!
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Spaceman69
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protests are cool. the will of the people. too bad its the equivalent of prisoners marching in the prison court yard demanding chicken parma everyday… no ones actually listening, and nothing ever changes. someone tell me ONE time a protest/rally ever changed anything, anywhere in the world EVER!?! ill wait… looking forward to the upcoming NSN arrest which are imminent LOL.. live stream that shat
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GreenGladeAryan
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Get back on the couch, pokèmon is on. Lower.
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klinkaard
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blair: truly loved by his people
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Sieger88
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Tom’s speech was Hitler-esque.
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WhiteBitchTripleSix
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Happy for you guys, sending well wishes from the US.
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reclaim Australia
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so… did they stop mass immigration?
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Tadhg0003
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White pills worldwide. Love the sea of flags. White Australia back in business.
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EnglandAwake
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Push for a march to be organised like that every month.
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avonlop
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I love this much look at all these people standing for their country.
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MonThirteen
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You were way too polite to that skanky Nazi hating hag. You’re going to make a brilliant politician. The sooner that happens the better. Hail Blair.
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kitsubot
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Love to see what is happening in Australia, cheers from the US.
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Awesome work big fella
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madphil69
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Brilliant. Regards from Britain.
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The left truly showed their true colours on the corner of Bourke Street and Swanston Street when they spat on that 80-year-old woman for wearing an Australian Flag.
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Great content Blair.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Thomas Sewell: Apologies for the delay. The media are out the front and they want to do an interview, but they’ll have to wait.

 

So I wanted to talk to you guys about lowering taxes [laughter] and responsible government. [laughter] The wokes have gone too far [laughter] and we need to take Australia back. Just a little bit of common sense patriotism.

 

Now, when you say stuff like that, everyone’s on board and then they say:

 

“Why can’t you just keep it at that? Why do you have to do all the Hitler stuff?”

 

And in short, it’s because Hitler was right! [loud applause]

 

I’m not going to drop the Hitler stuff. I think about Hitler a lot. [chuckling] I don’t usually bring him up, but I thought I would today because it’s important. I think about the spirit of Hitler and it manifests in interesting ways.

 

Everybody agrees that sexual perverts dressed up as women shouldn’t read stories to children at libraries funded by the taxpayer. Everybody agrees with that! I’ve actually never met anyone that thinks that’s appropriate.

 

Nobody likes these Welcome to Country’s. Nobody likes taking a piss and hearing that they have to be welcomed to their country or getting on a plane and being welcomed to country, or being in a meeting and being welcomed to country or receiving an email and being welcomed to country. Nobody actually likes that! Nobody agrees with it!

 

But in all the time that perverts have been trying to read stories to toddlers in libraries, funded by the taxpayer, you! And in all the time that we’ve been welcomed to our own country by Aboriginal communists and jews and faggots, nobody said anything! Nobody did anything about it! Nobody even said boo!

 

And the first people in the country that did anything about faggots trying to read stories to children at libraries, and the first group of people to organise a booing of the Welcome to Country on our most sacred holiday, were the guys that like Hitler! It just so happens that the guys that are right about every issue in this country, mass immigration, the banks robbing us, all of this stuff, and it just so happens the guys that are right every single time, also like Hitler! So we won’t be dropping the Hitler stuff anytime soon.

 

The Australian public are going to have to accept Hitler in their hearts, in their schools, they’re going to have to accept Hitler! We’re not going to disown Hitler, they’re going to accept Hitler!

 

Politics in Australia hasn’t seen people like us for some time. We are quite a phenomenon. Politics has been caught up in “Left versus Right”, but we don’t care about that. For us, it’s not left versus Right. It’s black versus White! This country is either a black country, or brown more accurately. Or it’s a White country! Either it’s ours or it’s theirs.

 

So White Australia is not negotiable. So now that you’re on board with Hitler and you’re on board with White Australia because you don’t want your grandchildren being brown, that’s just common sense. And if you do, go move to the Congo!

 

Now we get to National Socialism. That’s got a dirty word in it. You can’t say “social”, you can’t live in a society. And usually I just explain to people that:

 

“Look, the banks are robbing us, we’re going to rob them back!”

 

Yeah, Ned Kelly, sun and rad! [cheering and applause]

 

I went a little bit Jungian on you then with man and symbols and stuff. But they’re powerful, they work. That’s why we do them. We’re effective, unlike every other fucker that’s tried to save this country.

 

Then other people say to us:

 

“Why do you say blood and honour? Isn’t that a German larp?”

 

Now, unlike most of you, I’ve had the privilege of going to prison, for defending myself. And in prison all the Aussies say:

 

“That Aussies should stick together.”

 

And I had 210 days in a concrete box to think about that expression.

 

And I realised that really they’re just saying “blood and honour”. Because when I think about, Aussies should stick together, I think:

 

“Well, what are Aussies and why are we sticking together?”

 

And every Aussie knows we should stick together. All the other groups are sticking together. Shouldn’t we stick together? They’re taking our land off us! They’re taking our children’s future off us! They’re often violent threats to us! Shouldn’t we stick together?

 

So when I think of Aussies, I think:

 

“Well, we’re kin.”

 

And when I think of sticking together, I think:

 

“Well, that’s loyalty.”

 

So what’s a really good way of saying kin and loyalty? What are the two principles that should guide all the Aussies sticking together? Kin and loyalty! Well, the Germans already thought of it and they said “blood and honour”.

 

And that’s why we say, blood and honour!

 

[loud applause]

 

So now I’ve done all the elephants in the room, you know:

 

“Hail Hitler! Blood and honour! It’s the jews, Hitler was right, blah, blah blah!”

 

People will get on board. People are getting on board. This is the biggest Right-wing event. Not that we’re Right-wing, you know what I mean?

 

But this is the biggest event in our side of politics that I have ever been to this is the most organised event that I have ever been to. Now we’ve got a little bit of work to do. We’re not running the country yet!

 

But it’s not as organised as the jews. It’s not as organised as the Muslims. It’s not as organised as the Chinese. It’s not as organised as the Indians, and it’s not as organised as a lot of other little ethnic groups that are in this country. But we’re the most organised of the Whites!

 

[08:41]

 

Now, the jews, and all the other groups, they get together and they have a synagogue.

 

Now, not all jews go to synagogue all the time. That’s not really a limiting factor. You don’t get kicked out of Judaism for not going to synagogue. There’s lots of jews that don’t go to synagogue. But the jewish power structure is basically built around a hierarchy of how often you go to synagogue, and how much you study the Talmud, and how much you study how to rip off the goyim. That’s basically jewish hierarchy.

 

There’s several jewish power lobbies, and one of them is led by a Dr Dvir Abramovich. [booing] These men have done a lot of time studying Judaism, I’ll tell you, that’s why they’re in charge of the jewish power lobby.

 

And likewise, the men that spend a lot of time studying, being Australian, being White, being an Aryan, they tend to find themselves towards the top of the power structure, leading the Whites! The Muslims, the same. They have imams, they have mosques. They have ways of organising. Not all Muslims go to mosque. And when you talk to a Muslim that really does go to mosque, you ask him what he thinks of the Muslims that don’t go to mosque, and he’ll say to you something like:

 

“Oh, you mean Friday Muslims?”

 

And that means Muslims that only go to mosque on Friday, they don’t go every day. So they have, like a hierarchy of those that care about perpetuating Islam. There’s the every-dayers. There’s the once-a-weeker’s, those putrid Friday Muslims, you know, peasants don’t even care about the paedophile God or whatever they’ve got, [laughter] right? They’re fucking sick! But we can go on for hours. But I’m going to try to keep this, I don’t know, decent.

 

Then you’ve got the Chinese. Now they don’t really have a mosque, or a synagogue, but they like money. They’re like a merchant class.

 

And the more money they have, kind of like the jews, but they’re yellow. The higher up in the CCP they are, or whatever power structure they decide to abide by. And it doesn’t really matter whether the Chinese are Democratic Taiwanese or whether they’re communist mainland Chinese, they actually all behave the exact same way. They can brand themselves however they want, but only Drew Pavlou is fooled by that! [loud laughter]

 

Anyone with an IQ above 100 has figured out they actually all behave the same way. They just have different strategies. Some stay, some leave. You know, like the jews, there’s zionist jews, there’s Bolshevik jews, there’s all these different types of jews. They’re all jews!

 

And I don’t want to talk about Indians, but I had that on my top points. But Indians do the same thing. They build temples, they organise, they pool resources together, they meet, they celebrate their religion, their tradition, they maintain their ways, blah, blah, blah!

 

White people have to do the same thing. If we wish to survive, we have to collectivise and fight back!

 

Now, I say this with my head punched in. It would be nice if we could do this peacefully. I really want to do it peacefully. But we have to meet violence with violence. We have to know who are our friends and who are our enemies. And we’re willing to work with people that maybe don’t agree on everything with us. We’re happy to have things that are a consensus and things that are up for discussion.

 

But we won’t be friends with people that want Australia to be brown! And we will be friends with people that want Australia to be White! That’s why we’re White Australia.

 

We all just want to be left alone. But they’re never going to leave us alone, are they? They keep encroaching, they keep pushing over and over again, changing the boundary! And everybody just takes it. Everybody except us!

 

As I said:

 

We don’t want to be violent, but if we’re attacked, we’ll fight back. I didn’t start a fight on Friday, as most of you are aware, but someone decided to punch me in the head. And I know that these “punch a Nazi” types think that they’re in a Marvel superhero movie, and that they’re going to be the hero of the day. And they’ve finally found a Nazi and they’re going to punch him! The problem is that they’re not on Reddit. [laughter] The Nazis punch back!

 

[cheering and applause]

 

Now, personally, I am filled with common sense and patriotism, and it would seem absurd as a rational being to see 150 Black Shirts carrying a banner that says “White man fight back”, [loud laughter] while you’re wearing thongs. Like:

 

“Respect the baller. He had a crack!”

 

But you were okay. And then you’re like:

 

“I’m gonna spit on this dude and punch him in the head!”

 

[loud laughter] That’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. But that kind of sums up like the anti-White brain virus that’s in some White people. Like, these people are brainless! I didn’t start that fight. But that person is now in hospital. [cheering and applause]

 

You know, we do a little fighting. We do a little fighting! You’ve heard that a lot today. We are fighters. We are fighters in spirit and materially.

 

Now, we as a collective, we didn’t start this fight that we’re in. We were born here. Well, I wasn’t. I’m a New Zealander! But [chuckling] most of you were born here. At least we’re all White cunts, … And Tim will be happy with that.

 

[16:15]

 

And as I said before, we just want to be left alone. We just want to prosper. We just want to have our children in peace. We want to have a lovely, happy society. We don’t want all the brain rot being put into our children. We just want nice schools and clean neighbourhoods and strong, robust defense and economy and all this stuff and statesmen leading us., … And then I’ll get back on a roof [Tom works as a roofer when he’s not doing NSM] and pull potatoes out of my backyard.

 

But we’re being ruled by traitors and foreigners that have destroyed our nation! And they picked a fight with us! And just like on Friday, just because you don’t start a fight doesn’t mean you don’t fight! Just because you get punched in the head doesn’t mean you’ve lost! When you get punched in the head, it just means you’re in a fight. And we have been punched in the head many times as a nation! The people that rule over us constantly attack our nation! They constantly betray the nation from within and leave us defenseless! They take away our power, and wealth, and health, and honour, and dignity, and they give it to everyone else!

 

And so many people are demoralised by this! This makes them a coward! This doesn’t make them angry. This doesn’t make them want to fight. This makes them want to give up and roll over and die:

 

“Oh, well, it won’t happen in my lifetime!”

 

But we are not those people. What differentiates us from them? The inner from the outer? Other than the Hitler spirit, of course. But perhaps it’s to do with the Hitler spirit. It’s that we’re prepared to fight!

 

That doesn’t mean we’re going to go do something silly. It just means that we are not going to give up. We are not going to be intimidated by violence! While others will tolerate being humiliated, while others tolerate their slavery, we choose to become masters of our own destiny!

 

Hail Australia!

 

[cheering and applause]

 

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