Joel Davis – Nazi Trolling is Still the Only Interesting Thing in Australian Politics – May 2, 2025 – Transcript

 

Joel Davis

 

Nazi Trolling is Still the

 

Only Interesting Thing in Australian Politics

 

Fri, May 2, 2025

 

[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Blair Cottrell Jacob Hersant and Joel Davis discuss recent activism and the Welcome to Country booing incident causing much debate in Australia. Some key points:

Jacob Hersant joins as guest host

Discusses booing Welcome to Country at Anzac Day ceremony

“I was booing only the Welcome to Country and mentions of diversity”-Jacob
Explains Welcome to Country tradition in Australia

Describes reaction of crowd to booing
“Most people actually supported what we did, but the people there were…nervous”-Jacob

Discusses motivations for activism
Mentions legal issues from previous activism
“I suspect I’ll be charged for that again”-Jacob on potential charges

Talks about public response to booing incident

Discusses NRL dropping Welcome to Country after incident

Mentions Tucker Carlson’s comments on Welcome to Country
“Welcome to country statement is basically psychological preparation for having your country taken from you”-paraphrasing Tucker Carlson

Jacob discusses White Australia movement
“We want the people on this continent to identify primarily with their race as White Australians”-Jacob

Joel Davis joins as host [56:42]

Discusses recent satirical activism at polling booth
“I just wanted to make him talk about it again before the election”-Joel on provoking jewish response

Talks about election campaign and far-Right stunts

Discusses voting recommendations for upcoming election
“Put the Right-wing minor parties first. That’s what matters.”-Joel

Talks about Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots party

Discusses recent incident of cyclist attacking leafletter
“Australian politics is still fundamentally boring”-Joel

Discusses Superchats and donations from viewers

Talks about Brethren campaigning for Liberal Party

Discusses Shiloh Hendricks fundraising controversy
“Why are people dumping more money? Like, surely she’s got enough cash now.”-Joel

Talks about racial tribalism in fundraising

Discusses New Zealand and Maori relations
“I think when we take power, we’re probably going to have to subvert New Zealand for its own sake”-Joel

Compares Maori to Aboriginal Australians
“Obviously they’re very violent. They have very high rates of rape and things like that.”-Joel on Maoris

Discusses personal experiences with Maori people

Talks about child abuse issues in Maori communities
“There’s good and bad in every race. Right.”-Blair

Discusses other racial issues in New Zealand

Final thoughts on recent activism
“We were just like pissing ourselves laughing after we left the other day”-Joel

Closing remarks and sign off

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Blair Cottrell: What’s up, fam! It seems like we are live and I’ll be, I suppose, filling in as the host of tonight’s stream until Joel jumps on later. With me here is Jacob Hersant. And if you saw any promotions for the stream, you might know who Jacob Hersant is already. He’s been at the centre of some pretty controversial activism down here in Australia lately. And I suppose I’ll ask you, Jacob, to explain it for yourself. Who is Jacob Hersant and what’s going on? How are you relevant to Australian political activism right now?

 

Jacob Hersant: Hello, I’m Jacob Hersant. I’ve been a political activist for almost a decade now for a nationalistic point of view. Recently I was in the news a lot, actually, because I was one of the people that were in the crowd at the Shrine of Remembrance on Anzac Day [in Melbourne] booing the Welcome to Country.

 

To be clear, I was booing only the Welcome to Country and mentions of diversity and Welcome to Country and just Aboriginal victimhood at the Anzac Day Dawn Service, not the Dawn Service itself. There was some misreporting about that in the news. And there’s just been a lot of outrage from system “elites” regarding it. They’ve been very, very upset and they’ve collapsed all of the blame for what happened that morning on me. I saw in the State Premier’s* statement, she said:

 

“The booing of a neo-Nazi.”

 

Which obviously would be referring to me.

 

So it’s been interesting to see them basically collapse all of the booing and all the people that were booing into me. I guess I’m the avatar of that day.

 

[* Jacinta Marie Allan (born 19 September 1973) is an Australian politician serving as the 49th and current premier of Victoria since 2023. She has been the leader of the Victorian branch of the Australian Labor Party (ALP) since 2023 and has been a member of the Victorian Legislative Assembly (MLA) for the district of Bendigo East since 1999. She previously served as the 29th deputy premier of Victoria from 2022 to 2023. Allan is the longest-serving female minister in Victorian state history and currently the most senior sitting member of the Assembly. Wikipedia]

 

Blair Cottrell: Just for the record and for our international viewers, what is “Welcome to Country”? That might be something that’s exclusive to Australia. What is the Welcome to Country statement ceremony? What’s that consist of and why are you against it?

 

Jacob Hersant: The “Welcome to Country” is basically a statement saying that Aboriginals are the traditional owners of the country, and that by virtue of that they can welcome anybody to the country, whether that be the country as a whole, or a particular piece of land that was inhabited by a tribe. Because Aboriginals didn’t get to the level of organisation where they were any larger than tribes on particular parts of land. There was, I can’t remember exactly how many, but it would probably be in the hundreds of different little, I guess you, what you would call polities, but to talk of an Aboriginal politics is a bit ridiculous!

 

So they do this Welcome to Country everywhere! It’s not only at the Shrine of Remembrance, they do it at Parliament. They do it on public transportation. They do it at football games, basically any sports they do it at that. They’ll do it everywhere! I struggle to think of anywhere they don’t do the Welcome to Country, honestly. And it’s all just to do with Leftist victimhood politics about Aboriginal racial nationalism, to be used as a weapon against White Australians and to instil White guilt in White Australians.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, first of all, is the Anzac Day Dawn Service, is that something that you would attend each year?

 

Jacob Hersant: I don’t always attend the Dawn Service. I have been to Dawn Services before but I don’t attend it as frequently as I should. Going forward though I believe that I will because this one was, it was good, it was good to be there. Because even though we’re upset about the Welcome to Country, the rest of the service, a lot of it was quite good and I think a lot of it was respecting the soldiers that died in many, many wars that Australia has participated in. I thought it was a fitting way to remember them and to commemorate the hardship and sacrifice of those soldiers. But it was just that the Welcome to Country and the politicisation, and not only just politicisation but in a Left-wing direction which is completely alien to the soldiery that it’s supposed to be representing.

 

Blair Cottrell: So did you know there was going to be a Welcome to Country statement issued at the Dawn Service? Was that something like did you go to the Dawn Service knowing that was going to happen? Was that your booing process, was that pre-planned or was it a spur of the moment type thing? You weren’t expecting it? How did it all go down?

 

Jacob Hersant: I strongly suspected that they would do it. I’ve been to previous Dawn Services and they’ve said things like that “the Australian soldiers in the Second World War died for diversity and inclusion” and things like that. I think it’s only relatively recently that they’ve doubled down and gone fully into the White guilt Welcome to Country and all these kind of things. But I strongly suspected that they were going to do it. And I showed up with the plan of if they did take it away from what actually is respectful remembrance of the soldiers that I would boo anything that was out of place, that was disrespectful to the Australian soldiers.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, [chuckling] your criticism was heard loud and clear, not just by other Australians, but it seems like you’ve triggered a bit of an international response on a few different levels. We’ll get into that in a minute, though. Because the Dawn Service, it’s a big deal in Australia. It’s part of our national tradition, our annual tradition to honour the soldiers that died for our country. And to some people it means something even beyond that as well.

 

And so a lot of people attend the Dawn Service. How was, how should I ask this question? The people around you, how did they receive the booing? Were they supportive? How did the people around you at the Dawn Service react?

 

[07:26]

 

Jacob Hersant: The vast majority of people were just completely silent. Most people actually supported what we did, but the people there were, you could feel their nervousness and you could feel their fear. Most people are., …

 

Blair Cottrell: They were nervous as a result of your booing? They were afraid. They didn’t know how to react. Is that what you mean?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, they were nervous because of the booing and it obviously made them very uncomfortable because most people are conflict avoidant. They don’t want to sit there and have drama going on around them and have this uneasy feeling in their stomach. And they were all just more or less silent for the first, it felt like hours of booing, but there was a lot of booing.

 

But by the end of it, there were some people that were getting sick of like, me booing and the people around me booing and other people booing, and they were saying to me:

 

“Stop! It’s enough!”

 

And I just absorbed that energy and I redirected it at the welcome to the Welcome to Country and I just said:

 

“Yeah, stop it!”

 

I was [chuckling] basically absorbing their energy and then I just shot it back at the Aboriginal victimhood, the paid victim.

 

So that was quite funny and that just shut them up.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I did notice in some footage there was actually at least one veteran who was on your side of the argument. He was actually trying to tell people that you were entitled to your opinion. He was suggesting that the Aboriginal character employed by the government to give that statement to welcome veterans, welcome the fallen even to their own country or descendants of the fallen to welcome them to the country that they fought and died for. He was suggesting that that was a government politicisation of the Anzac Day ceremony. And you were only responding with your criticism of that politicisation, which I think was a fair observation personally.

 

But you just said something interesting then. You said that “most people are conflict avoidant” and that they don’t want to deal with confrontation or any sort of direct criticism, hostility, because it makes them uncomfortable. You’re certainly not like that you don’t mind a bit of conflicts. If anything, sometimes you go out there looking for it. Why do you think that is? What sets you apart from the ordinary person? What’s motivating you there? What gives you that energy?

 

Jacob Hersant: It’s not something that comes naturally to me. I’m not temperamentally somebody that goes out and seeks conflict. Rather, it’s the opposite. It’s the fact that I have deeply held political views that brings me into the political struggle and makes me part of that conflict.

 

And that’s why I find myself in these situations [chuckling] where everyone else in the crowd was fueling it. They felt embarrassed about the Welcome to Country, they felt humiliated, they felt like it was out of place, but nothing was going to bring them to boo because they were scared!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it did seem that way. And has there been any repercussions in your personal life? Anything good, anything bad to report as a result of your activism at the Anzac Day ceremony, specifically?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, while I was there, the police came up to me and did a field interview, I guess you’d say. They just asked me a bunch of questions. They’re like:

 

“Why are you here?”

 

I just said:

 

“Remembering.”

 

Then they asked me a bunch of other questions to which I didn’t answer. I just said:

 

“No comment.”

 

And then they brought up a shrine., … I think it’s the person who heads the shrine, he’s some corporate traitor who previously stopped us from going to the Last Post. So I believe it was the same person. And he basically said that we’re not allowed to attend the shrine, at that time. And then he came again at this, at the Dawn Service or after the Dawn Service, he came up and he said:

 

“I want you to leave.”

 

So I promptly called him a traitor.

 

And then the police removed me from the Shrine of Remembrance Grounds. I think it’s called the “Grounds”. There’s some technical term that’s in that Act, which they used to remove us from the shrine.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re no stranger to having to deal with the police as a result of your activism. Have you currently got any outstanding charges for previous activist events? What’s going on with your legal situation? Are you caught up in anything at the moment there?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I have an appeal going on for when I nearly gave the Roman salute outside of the county court. That’s coming up soon. So I’ll be appealing that in the county court again.

 

I actually got delivered a brief today by Victoria Police, which was not to do with the Welcome to Country booing, although I suspect I probably will be charged with the same charge that I actually received today, which was for a political demonstration we did last year, probably nine or ten months ago, which was with a banner that said “Mass Deportations Now”, where I gave a speech at Federation Square. So they charged me with “offensive behaviour”, which is a charge that’s basically used to charge people who use profanity or expose themselves, like expose their genitals or things like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: You didn’t actually do anything like that at this particular event, this protest?

 

[13:53]

 

Jacob Hersant: No, I just led a political demonstration, so that’s why I’ve been charged. If you look at the brief, the brief just basically says that I shouted a bunch of slogans and was underneath this banner with my mask off!

 

So I don’t think the prosecution has much of a chance of actually convicting me for this. But obviously it’s just harassment, it’s just lawfare*. But this one for the Welcome to Country, I suspect I’ll be charged for that again.

 

[* Lawfare is legal action undertaken in order to exert power or control, esp. as part of a hostile campaign against a particular country or group.]

 

And there was another time I was arrested, which was on Halloween when I was wearing a Ku Klux Klan costume. And they want to charge me, probably with offensive behaviour again.

 

So I think for the foreseeable future of my political activism, which I’m obviously not going to stop, they’re just going to keep charging me with offensive behaviour, because it offends them.

 

Blair Cottrell: But you’re willing to take that on board, right? That comes with the job sort of thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m not doing anything wrong.

 

So if there were, there’s really no point of charging me because it doesn’t do anything except for waste their resources and make them look bad, because they profess to be adherents of liberalism and they say that we live in a democracy where people can express their point of view and influence the politics of the country, yet anything I do is deemed “offensive behaviour” and criminalised. And they’re constantly putting in new laws, trying to legislate our politics out of existence. But it’s not going to Reform us. We’re incorrigible! There’s no way that they are going to Reform our views.

 

And the only way they’re going to stop us engaging in particular political behaviours is if they convince us that those behaviours are wrong.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m not sure if you will get charged for the booing at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. I saw an article that suggested the Prime Minister, or didn’t suggest it, was the information in the article was asserting that the Prime Minister had already explored several different legal options or avenues to see if they could charge you with anything. And the search came up with nothing. Apparently it’s in a bit of a grey area. You can’t really charge someone for booing. I don’t believe there’s been any precedent in Australia where someone’s been charged for booing something that they’re not in favour of so you might be okay there.

 

But I did notice in another story. The NRL, which is the National Rugby League in Australia, a different type of popular sport. We have a mixture of favourite sports down here in Australia. Some states like the Australian Football League, which is Australian Rules Football, and other states prefer the rugby. Down here in Victoria, we are known to be an AFL state, but I think New South Wales is one of the big rugby states. But the NRL dropped their Welcome to Country, or there was some sort of disagreement with the people who would usually give the Welcome to Country ceremony before the Melbourne Storm game, the big Anzac Day game. That seems to be a direct result of you having booed the ceremony at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. Any thoughts there?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s encouraging to see that these people are scared to put on these Welcome to Country’s, because there hasn’t been enough pushback previously when they do it. The public has made it clear that they are not in favour of these Welcome to Country’s. They’re over them! They want less of them. The overwhelming majority actually wants them to stop completely.

 

And the booing at the Shrine of Remembrance just made that sentiment palpable. And everybody that was there in that crowd felt it. They felt, they were already uncomfortable, but the fact that there’s been pushback now made them even more uncomfortable. This is the kind of cop out that a lot of people on the Right are using. They’re saying:

 

“Yes, we hate the Welcome to Country, we’re over it. But booing it is not the right thing to do and they need to get rid of the Welcome to Country so we don’t have this conflict anymore.”

 

We don’t have people like me booing the Welcome to Country.

 

But there’s nothing wrong with booing things that are dishonourable and that are basically humiliating the people that are supposed to be being remembered on a particular day, namely the Anzacs on Anzac Day. There’s nothing wrong with booing something that is bad.

 

So this kind of trying to play both sides thing by saying:

 

“Oh, I’m against the booers, but I’m also against the Welcome to Country.”

 

Is really, it’s just cowardly and it won’t actually do anything. You have to pick a side. Are you in favour of Welcome to Country’s or are you not in favour of Welcome to Country’s?

 

Blair Cottrell: Most people aren’t. But like you said, most people, they just lack the necessary motivation or energy to express their discontent or criticism of the Welcome to Country. If it seems like everyone is tolerating it, then the standard person will just tolerate it as well, because the average person, as you know, isn’t really geared to step out of line like that. They’re waiting for someone else to do it and they’ll support the person that does do it. Just like over 100,000 people in a News Corp poll said that they want the Welcome to Country removed altogether. That was the most selected choice in the poll by far. You know, but all of those people aren’t actually ready and willing to stand up and voice that opinion loudly and with any sort of meaningful passion, that they don’t really want to suffer the consequences. So they will support someone who does challenge it, but they won’t challenge it themselves. And unfortunately, that’s just the nature of people rights the way they’ve kind of always been, according to my understanding.

 

But I noticed Tucker Carlson mentioned something about Welcome to Country in a recent statement interview of some kind. I saw some footage of Tucker Carlson saying a few things, but one of the things he said was his understanding of Welcome to Country. He’d been to Australia, he landed at an airport, and he’d heard the Welcome to Country over the loudspeaker. The thought that came to his mind, that was that the Welcome to Country statement is basically:

 

“Psychological preparation for having your country taken from you.”

 

He gave an analogy, or used an analogy of people coming into your home and telling you:

 

“This is not your home!”

 

You know what I mean?:

 

“Welcome to this home. It’s not your home anymore.”

 

And they keep telling that to you for a long time because they’re actually planning to take your home away from you. Would you largely agree with that? I mean, what are they essentially saying when they make that Welcome to Country statement? When the government employs Aboriginal activists, professional Aboriginals, to make those statements, whether it’s in schools, whether it’s in government buildings, train stations, airports, it’s everywhere! What, in essence are they telling the Australian people when they do that?

 

[21:46]

 

 

Jacob Hersant: I do largely agree with that. But I think he doesn’t understand how bad the situation actually is the fact is we have had our country already stolen from us. Our state is completely run by traitors and aliens and they don’t listen to the founding stock of this country at all! They don’t care! This kind of Welcome to Country is basically just broadcasting that we have had our country stolen from us. Because if we had a decent and honourable country that was willing to assert itself, this stuff would be impossible. You wouldn’t be able to say it. There would be no question that we have an inalienable right to this country because we would have the will and the strength to actually defend it, to defend our claim to this country.

 

But we’ve had it stolen and hence we have to sit and suffer through these humiliation rituals where we have to be Welcome to the Country that is supposed to be ours. That’s where I disagree with say, the Trumpet of Patriots where they say:

 

“We don’t have to be welcome to our own country!”

 

Well, the sad thing is Australia isn’t our country anymore and we’re going to have to fight to take our country back.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what happened? How in your mind did we lose our country?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it started by the “elites” or the state being captured by people who don’t have our interests at heart, whether they be aliens in the form of jews, obviously jewry, world jewry, or in the form of Whites who are traitors that don’t value racial solidarity. So the state was captured by our ideological and racial enemies.

 

And then they opened up the floodgates and started flooding Australia with, first it was with non-British immigration, which was initially what this country was founded on, a British Isles identity. The majority of our White population here were from the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish ethnic groups, although there were other Europeans here, whether they be from Central Europe or Scandinavia or France or all of these European countries. But they first started opening up the floodgates, the mass immigration with all Europeans generally. So whether they be Italians and Greeks and Spanish and Balkans ethnic groups.

 

So that was an initial dilution of what we considered ourselves ethnically here, a White Australia. And that was basically the beginning of the end. It wasn’t long after that that they started letting in other races, so yellows, browns and blacks.

 

And now we’re basically in a position where we are diminishing population, where we’re being displaced and supplanted in the cities that we built in the country that our ancestors conquered and left to their posterity.

 

Blair Cottrell: You mentioned White Australia there and I keep seeing and hearing about a White Australia Party and there’s a website for that. Are you involved in the development of that party and in what capacity if you are?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m involved with the National Socialist Network, which is part of a broader movement for White Australia.

 

So we’re in the preparation stage of creating a broader movement that isn’t only the hard hitting activism that we previously engaged in.

 

So the name of that broader movement is going to be “White Australia”, because that is the nationality, the political identity that we want to put forward in this country. We want the people on this continent to identify primarily with their race, as White Australians.

 

Blair Cottrell: That sounds like an ideological spiritual battle rather than an exclusively political one, would you agree? And is that something, how do you see yourself fitting into the equation? What role are you playing in this battle to establish a future for White Australians?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I am primarily an ideological person, so I’m more interested in the formation of ideas that make political victories kind of possible. So most people in the, I guess what you call the right nowadays would call this meta-politics, which basically just means before politics.

 

So it’s kind of the battle of values that happens in society which makes a particular set of values electable in the future.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re certainly not just an ideas man though. You have the audacity to get out there and get into activism. You’ve delivered a few pretty good public speeches lately. I’ve seen a couple of them.

 

So do you have some sort of vision as to how you’re going to organise or inspire anyone who might be favourable to your message in the future? Is there some sort of like system you’re following or is it sort of like a reactionary process to what’s happening politically? Is it a little bit of both? What’s your plan for the Australian people?

 

[28:31]

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’ll speak generally because I am more of a generalist, but I was converted to the creed of National Socialism just through my own research on the Internet. I won’t get too much into the story. But from there I developed my ideas of what needs to be done to save our ethnic group, White Australians, from the destruction that is slated for us by the current government, which is obviously run by the jews.

 

I think the most important task that we have is the education of White Australians and the indoctrination of them. And I use indoctrination not in a way that most people would use it in a kind of negative way where someone’s kind of forced into a point of view, but I the word “indoctrination” insofar as bringing somebody to a doctrine, I guess a word proselytising is probably a little less grating on the ears of some people.

 

But I think proselytising is the most important thing that we can do. Bringing White Australians to our point of view. And then once we do that, we need to recruit those people into a political movement to organise them. And then once we have them organised, we need to build up our strength in that organisation.

 

So we need to make the people just better political activists, better people in general. We need to increase their strength. And that can come in very many forms, not just obviously brawn or muscle. It comes from their courage, their mastery of particular things. There’s many things that we can do to increase our strength as a movement.

 

So I think generally the things we need to do is proselytize, build understanding of our world view as possible. We need to recruit people, motivate them to actually take action. And then those people that we have, we need to make sure that they are the best that they can be.

 

Blair Cottrell: Understanding the capacity for thought of the standard White Australian these days, what do you think the best method for selling National Socialism to them is? Is it simplistic phraseology? Is it kind of the sort of activism that you’ve already been engaged in? Is it a combination of things? Do you think the average Australian can ever become a conscious National Socialist? Do they even need to be, or do they just need to vote for an appropriate party that stands at least in part with National Socialist principles? What I’m asking you is, do you think it’s possible to make National Socialists of the standard working class Australians?

 

Jacob Hersant: I think it’s definitely possible. Whether it’s probable is another question. I think it’s going to be very difficult. But I think that ultimately it’s something that’s necessary. We’re going to have to do it if we are going to survive as a distinct and honourable ethnic group going forward.

 

I think there’s particular parts of our worldview that are more palatable to people where they are now. One of those things is basically just racism generally. I think Australians on the whole are more racist than other White ethnic groups, basically because of historical circumstances and the kind of national consciousness that we developed through the centuries through not too many centuries obviously, we’re a new nation. But we have a unique history that makes us predisposed to ideas of racial solidarity and all of these things.

 

I think there’s other things that will take quite a bit of work to convince people of things like historical revisionism, the Second World War, the view of Adolf Hitler and things like that. Nonetheless, I think these are necessary. We have to fight in the realm of ideas on all fronts! Some people think that we can just leave behind particular issues because it’s going to be more difficult to convince people of those. But we’re obviously in a struggle against an enemy who aren’t going to just let us cede that ground. They’re obviously going to keep ripping up those wounds and trying to discredit us by bringing those things up over and over again!

 

So I think we need to fight on all fronts and we need to convince people of all these things.

 

But I don’t think that it is impossible for us to convince White Australians to become National Socialists because, well, I am one of them. I am one person who has been convinced, so I know that other people can be convinced.

 

But also we have the historical example of Adolf Hitler, who gained cultural hegemony over the German people. And many other countries also were adjacent to National Socialism. So we know that these views can become widely supported. We just need to put all of our effort into making sure that that is realised again.

 

Blair Cottrell: What age were you when you first became sold on National Socialism? Because I’ve known you for a while. I’ve seen you around for quite a while. You’re not someone who’s new in the sphere of politics and political activism or fringe political groups, you might say. I know you’ve been around since you were quite young. So how old were you when you first came to describe yourself as a National Socialist? And what was it that first alerted you to the essence of that doctrine, the truth of that doctrine?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it was initially when I was in high school, so I was probably 15 or 16 or maybe more.

 

Blair Cottrell: That would have been a good time! I wish I was in school with you, man, that would have been funny! [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: I got up to all kinds of funny things when I was in high school! I got suspended a few times. I won’t go into it, but it was all politically related. I guess that was, …

 

[35:33]

 

Blair Cottrell: Was it for being racist? Were you suspended for being racist?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, for being racist and being, I guess, what they would call homophobic or against sexual perversion. So I managed to upset a bunch of people at the school. I guess that was the beginning of my, quote, unquote, “life of crime”. Because all of my criminal matters that have happened, obviously after I was in high school, are all politically related as well.

 

Blair Cottrell: You mentioned that Australians may have a better sense of ethnic consciousness than other European or extension European peoples. You said Australians are generally more racist in a positive sense. Do you see any problems or weaknesses pertaining to the Australian nature? What can we improve on as a collective group?

 

Jacob Hersant: One of the things that is very frustrating is the apathetic nature of a lot of Australians, where they basically throw up their hands and say:

 

“Nothing can be done!”

 

Or they say:

 

“She’ll be right, we’ll just allow everything to happen because I’ve got other things to do. I’m just going to focus on my own life, maybe go fishing, watch the football, do things like that. While everything goes to hell!”

 

We’re not as politically engaged as other countries are. I think one of the weaknesses we have is while we are more racial, we don’t have as long as a history as other ethnic groups like obviously our parent nations, the Scottish, the English, the Welsh, the Irish, but other European ethnicities as well, like the Germans and Scandinavians.

 

And all of these ethnicities have longer histories that have a way longer national story than we do. Ours basically goes back to England, but that is on the other side of the world. That history is also our history in terms of blood. But it isn’t the same in terms of politics. I guess it is partly politics, but in terms of geography and in terms of the story of our people, particularly in this part of the world.

 

So I think a lot of people don’t have as robust an understanding of Australianism as a German would have about Germanness or an Englishman would have about Englishness.

 

Blair Cottrell: There has been a great deal of effort on the part of the government and relevant institutions to make sure Australians don’t know a lot about their history though. I kind of don’t blame the luckless victims, to borrow a phrase from Mein Kampf. I try to sympathize with people because they’ve been victims of hostile anti-national propaganda for at least a couple of generations now. So Australians not really having a strong sense of Australianism I think is more a result of exposure to enemy propaganda rather than our own ignorance. I think Australians want to believe in the greatness of this country and of their national identity. They want to believe in something, they want to be a part of something greater. But they’re shouted down as racists every time they try.

 

So there is potential there I think there’s still a lot of good stock down here in Australia, plenty of good stock. I think there’s great potential for a bit of a reawakening, a national awakening. And I see that as well and truly underway in many different parts of society. There’s all sorts of different lobby groups and nationalist organisations popping up all over Australia. Activist cells either related to you or kind of organic, and getting into activism as a result of their own ideas and methods, which is a good thing.

 

You know, I think Tom Sewell borrowed a phrase from, I don’t know who initially said it. I don’t even know if it was Mao. He says:

 

“Let a thousand flowers blossom.”

 

That seems to be happening down here in Australia. There’s a lot of organic resistance and activism happening. You’ve got Mattie Trihey in the National Workers Alliance. You’ve got British-Australian Community, who I follow on Telegram. They push, they put some good stuff out there. And there’s you guys, the National Socialist Network, there’s Tom Sewell and the EAM [European Australian Movement]. There’s plenty of good stuff going on out there. So I kind of see that as an organic national response to the situation our country’s in. Kind of like an immune response, like the nation is the body.

 

And all of these activists, such as yourselves, you, Tom, these other groups, kind of like these guys are the White blood cell activity, the immune response that’s fighting back against foreign bodies within ours. So, yeah, it’s good stuff. Like there’s plenty of potential is what I’m trying to say.

 

But yeah, man, thanks for jumping on.

 

Is there anything else you want to talk about before we start going through a few Superchats?

 

Jacob Hersant: I can’t think of anything really. I think we covered most of what was happening with the Welcome to Country and about politics in general.

 

Blair Cottrell: How are you feeling? How are you feeling lately? Everyone’s sick. I just got better after being sick for weeks. It just flattened me, man, and it’s really like sapped my energy. I don’t know what goes on in Melbourne, but Melbourne’s like this big incubator. It’s like everyone gets sick at the same time, which never used to happen. I don’t remember that happening before, but yeah. You feeling okay?

 

[41:38]

 

 

Jacob Hersant: I’ve only gotten better recently. I’ve been sick for probably like a week and a half. So I was actually sick before going to Anzac Day. I was actually getting better and I probably would have woke up 100%. But I only had 2 hours sleep the night before going to Anzac Day because I just couldn’t turn off. I was too excited about what was going to happen at the Dawn Service. And I was doing a lot of editing that night and I find if I’m just doing work on the computer before I try to go to sleep, I find it really difficult to go to sleep.

 

So I was run down and then had two hours sleep.

 

And then just the hit of adrenaline while I was booing was just crazy! Because I, the part, the group I was part of that was booing, it felt like it was just us. Like I was booing so loud that I couldn’t hear any other groups. So I like messaged the chat. I was like:

 

“It feels like it’s just me. Like [chuckling] where is everyone?”

 

Because there was a bunch of other people that were coming but nobody. And you can’t hear a lot of those guys because there was obviously 50,000 people there and I was the only one that was booing loud enough within the proximity of the microphone. And our group. It wasn’t just me. We’re the only ones that could be heard in the footage. But it felt like there was no one there and I was just, I just dumped all my adrenaline just booing as loud as possible, just like making sure that there wasn’t any public heroes that were going to go and try to fight me.

 

The vast majority of the people that were around me were actual veterans, like the veteran that obviously defended me. But they were there and they were just agreeing with me more or less.

 

So there wasn’t any men there that were going to try and stop me from booing because we’re just doing it over and over again for like 10 minutes of just straight booing at them, and nobody stopped us. It was just a bunch of cat ladies around us that were getting upset. And then I was just re channeling their energy back at the speaker saying:

 

“Yeah, stop it!”

 

And just having a lot of fun. But they would have been upset about the Welcome to Country, so they didn’t care. I saw a lot of Leftists were saying:

 

“How were these neo-Nazis in a crowd of 50,000 people and not have their head stomped in? How weren’t they killed by this crowd?”

 

Blair Cottrell: And it’s funny, isn’t it? People think that there’s something about a so-called neo-Nazi that’s going to make them recognizable in a crowd.

 

But the only things I can think of that would make them recognizable is, I don’t know, like good health, caring about themselves, being basically upstanding members of society who are trying to do what they can for their country. It’s not like they’re this caricature of evil or twisted demon that you like have a duty to go and stomp when you see them.

 

As far as I’m aware and based on my own experience, the people who go for National Socialism tend to hold themselves to higher standards than average. So it’s funny the perspective certain people have of the designated evil, the Nazi.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, we got to remember that the crowd there at the Shrine of Remembrance isn’t going to be TikTok Leftists and Aboriginals. The only Aboriginal that I saw there was the one that was getting paid thousands of dollars to humiliate the veterans that were there., …

 

Blair Cottrell: He looked angry that guy, especially when he heard the boos. I don’t think he knew how to take that. He sort of tried to keep speaking but he couldn’t keep the disdain from showing on his face. He was very upset!

 

And a friend of mine said that he shouldn’t have been wearing a hat. That was kind of disrespectful for him to be wearing a cap while he was giving an address. Well, he shouldn’t have been on the podium in the first place. The guy is a political activist. He’s an Aboriginal activist who believes in Aboriginal racial nationalism speaking or rather spruiking his certain ideology or perspective of Australia which is an anti-White perspective at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. Which is, it’s just unacceptable, it’s inappropriate. He shouldn’t have even been there.

 

But you know, he was also wearing a hat. You can’t even wear a hat in court or anything on your head. If you walk into a courtroom with a hat, the magistrate or the judge will tell you to take it off. It’s disrespectful. It’s understood as being a disrespectful thing. So you know, the guy couldn’t have been any more disrespectful with what he said or how he presented himself. So he deserved to be booed! And the whole country understands that, they agree with it. So it seems like all the support is behind you, man!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I didn’t see any non-Whites there other than two non-Whites at the end when the police were there and they were just asking the police to arrest me. So, they were maybe in their early 20s, just like young fighting age men just begging the police to arrest me for booing.

 

And yeah, I think the only caps that should be worn are the ones that are part of the army uniform. If you’re wearing some sort of slouch hat or whatever, you’re a guard. There shouldn’t be any caps worn. But he was wearing a baseball cap! And he just looked disheveled and just not dressed properly to conduct a official ceremony like that.

 

[47:44]

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I noticed that you’ve got a lot of support, not just from the Australian people, but various influencers on the Internet, too.

 

But pivoting to a different subject briefly, did you see the very honest Liberal and Labor Party flyers that have been appearing over the last couple of days?

 

Jacob Hersant: I did see those. They were very funny! I saw the jewish one, “The Liberal Party Loves jews” and it was obviously just saying “giving the jews everything they want”. I don’t want to spoil it too much for when Joel comes on here and says everything that happened, but it was very funny.

 

And I thought it was going to be difficult to get some publicity after just the massive explosion that was the Welcome to Country. But that story, obviously targeting the jews just exploded as well.

 

So it was very good. I’m always impressed with activism that doesn’t need a lot of effort and it doesn’t need a lot of people. But the idea is just so good that it just works perfectly.

 

And I think this week these last two weeks have exemplified that kind of style of activism, because how much do we have to pay to boo at the Shrine of Remembrance? And how much is it to just have three people show up to the polling booth with, well, maybe they had to pay for the jew costumes [chuckling] they had on! But obviously it’s not a lot of cost, but it’s created a lot of hysteria from our enemies that has obviously put our point of view to the public and has brought a lot of attention to our cause and our organisations.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s like no rest for the wicked, right? These major parties, government bureaucrats, they have to go to a great deal of effort to try to disguise what they’re doing as not harmful for the future of the country, not hostile to the Australian people. They have to talk all kinds of nonsense and run rings around themselves to try to create the necessary slogans and obfuscate what it is they’re doing. It takes much less effort to just expose what they’re doing with simple satire or very direct and honest criticism, doesn’t it? I think that’s where the saying “no rest for the wicked” comes from. When you have evil intentions, when what you’re doing is dishonourable, it’s based on lies. You’ve got to make a great deal more effort to push that kind of message. And people on the opposing side who represent the truth, they can have a profound impact by doing only a fraction of the work. Because when you use the truth, you don’t need to put as much energy or as much effort into getting a result that the enemy needs to put in the kind of resources, man, the resources, the amount of money that the major parties are probably burning through on these ridiculous campaigns where they’re not even, like, making their policies known or understood. It’s just a bunch of people smiling and just talking shit with simplistic phraseology. And the amount of money, it’s like costing the amount of public money probably that’s being spent on this shit!

 

But, yeah, that’s my perspective on the whole thing.

 

But, yeah, man, thanks for jumping on. It’s been good. You’re a good sport. Where will you see Jacob Hersant next? I suppose you can’t give anything away. Are you appearing in court anytime soon?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, I’ll be going to the county court soon. I’m not sure of the exact date, but it should be in the next few months. And we’ll be there for three days, I believe. Just arguing that I didn’t give the Roman salute and that getting a month in jail is excessive. And also arguing, obviously, that it’s against the Australian constitution to prohibit political communication of which giving a gesture is an example.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re actually not the only one who’s been charged with giving a Roman salute. You were the first one charged after the new legislation was passed. But former Neighbors actor, soap actor Damian Richardson has also been charged after he gave a satirical Roman salute at a private function, trying to draw attention to how ridiculous the law was. And because that gesture or his presentation was live streamed to Facebook, I’m pretty sure Victoria police snapshotted or recorded that segment of the live stream and went to his house to charge him for performing a Nazi gesture or salute. So he’s having to go to court for possibly what I understand is a similar charge to the one you’ve got.

 

I think you’ll both be coming at it from different angles, though, because you’re arguing for the right to make the gesture as part of free political expression, whereas Damien will be saying he doesn’t even really believe it. He’s actually just doing it satirically to criticise the law itself. So there’ll be some interesting outcomes in the courts. Hopefully you guys get fair hearings and hopefully the judge comes to a sensible ruling.

 

So, yeah, that’ll be something I’ll follow closely because I’m interested to see how those matters turn out.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, I think the higher it goes up the courts, the fairer the hearings will get. So the county court should be better than the magistrates.

 

And I think after the county court, if we don’t get a ruling in our favour, we’re just going to go from the county court to the High Court.

 

So that’s what my lawyer told me. Although maybe that’s subject to change. Maybe we’ll go to the Supreme Court of Victoria and then try there. Because I know the Supreme Court has ruled previously in favour of expression. I know the New South Wales Supreme Court actually ruled in favour of environmental activists blocking the road and saying that that was a form of political communication.

 

So I don’t know how these higher Ranking judges are going to seriously make a case that giving a Roman salute isn’t a form of political communication that needs to be defended by the Constitution for us to have the system that we purport to have or that the Constitution outlines.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well said. And before we get Joel on, what’s your message to the viewers, to not just the Australian people, but to anyone who’s interested in nationalism, anyone who wants to be active, wants to get involved. What kind of words do you have? What’s your message to those people?

 

Jacob Hersant: I just encourage everybody to get active in some way. Because there’ll be lots of people out there that are consuming content and they’re feeding their mind and they’re being won to our position.

 

But that really isn’t enough. You need to take that next step and start working productively for those ideals that you’ve been won to. You need to proselytise more. You need to propagate the ideas that have been obviously recreated in your brain. People have convinced you of those ideas. Now you need to go over and convince other people of those ideas.

 

And there’s other ways that obviously I previously stated, you can engage in recruitment work, you can encourage people to get active, you can just make yourself a better person, make sure that you’re flourishing in every aspect of your life, and not only individually in terms of self improvement, but also collectively as a people. You can encourage the people around you, White Australians, to flourish as well.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, thanks, mate. Well said. And thanks for jumping on. It’s been good. Some really good stuff in there. And I’m sure we’ll speak to you again soon. Best of luck in the immediate future. We’ll keep an eye on what’s going on in court and support you any way we can.

 

So thanks for coming.

 

Jacob Hersant: Sounds good. Thank you for having me on Blood and Honour!

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re welcome, mate.

 

[56:41]

 

[Joel Davis comes on]

 

So next up, I’ll get Joel Davis on and we’ll continue the stream. Now I can sit back and let Joel drive. Man, that’s stressful, actually driving the stream! It requires actually a bit more mental energy than I expected. I’m starting to like, understand what you go through Joel. Well done, man! Glad we have you.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t really go through anything. I can’t be in a conversation that I don’t drive. I don’t know how to do that. But it is frustrating not be not being able to just do the stream with Jacob and you, because of these ridiculous limitations that are placed upon us. Unconstitutional, unlawful and outrageous limitations that are placed upon us by our ridiculous legal system. But hopefully that doesn’t go on for much longer.

 

I will say quickly, before we talk about other things, about Jacob booing the Welcome to Country. And not just Jacob, but Jacob kind of became the face of the booing, because he got up very early, got down there really early in the morning, like 4:00 in the morning, I think. So he was right up the front and his voice was able to come through the microphones basically of the official proceedings so you could hear it on television. And it was like Beamed all around the 45,000 people who were there. And it was his idea as well to do it. Obviously some of the other boys did it. But it really did launch a national conversation and a conversation that we won pretty conclusively, I would say. I mean Australians have “abo fatigue”. We talked about this when The Voice referendum* was happening.

 

[* The 2023 (Labour government) Australian Indigenous Voice referendum was a constitutional referendum held on 14 October 2023 in which the proposed Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice was rejected (with 60% voting No). Voters were asked to approve an alteration to the Australian Constitution (giving Abos special rights) that would recognise Indigenous Australians in the document through prescribing a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice that would have been able to make representations to Federal Parliament and the executive government on “matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”. Wikipedia]

 

But I think Australians had abo fatigue, know from the very beginning, as soon as we showed up. I think we were sick of them from the moment we met them. And we’ve only become more and more sick of them the longer we’ve had to deal with them. I mean, but at least in the past, at least, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Surely we had a few days or weeks of tolerance. I don’t think we got fatigue immediately upon looking at them, did we? What do you think?

 

Joel Davis: But the thing is, if they weren’t used as a bulwark by communists, by Leftists, by jews and so on, by other immigrant groups, if they weren’t weaponised against us. If our own White guilt complex wasn’t weaponised against us through the medium of Aboriginal worship, then it could be a kind of humourous triviality, right?

 

But because they’re used against us, we’re forced, … You almost feel bad because it’s almost like they’re almost too infantile and stupid to even take that seriously. So I don’t feel the same kind of like visceral hatred or disgust or anything that I do for like many other groups that I do for Aboriginals, frankly. I just kind of find them contemptuous and goofy.

 

But then when they kind of wheel them out as a humiliation ritual, as an attack against White Australians, particularly on our most sacred day, the veneration of our fallen ancestors who gave their blood, their lives for our people, for our nation, then it’s really egregious and it has to be called out.

 

But yeah, Jacob did a fantastic job and I think it showed. What other country in the world is there except Australia where Nazis can drive consistently the political conversation? I don’t think there’s another country in the world where that’s happening. We’re the only country in the world where it’s happening and we’re the only interesting thing in Australian politics.

 

[1:00:23]

 

Blair Cottrell: Why do you think that is happening? Why do you think that is an exclusive Australian situation? Why is that possible down here and nowhere else? What’s going on that’s allowing that?

 

Joel Davis: It’s hard. I think it’s a partly to do with the fact that Australian politics is so fucking boring and most Australians don’t get involved in politics because it seems like a boring activity for nerds and faggots that they don’t want to have anything to do with. And we’re the only like non-nerd faction in politics.

 

So obviously we are the ones with any kind of personality or dynamism. And it’s because we’re attracted to this very kind of radical doctrine and approach. But racism, trolling, this really is some of the essence of what it means to be an Australian. These things drive down to the core, like racist larrikinism is basically like one of the core constitutive elements of what it means to be Australian. So of course the racist larrikins are the ones that are going to be like the avatars of Australianness in the 21st century politics, however it manifests.

 

So yeah, I think all of us as a group and our associates and friends who are in our in our immediate kind of crew. That’s why we’re interesting.

 

And basically then you have this massive brigade of inner city Leftists and cosmopolitan non-White immigrants, you know, media journalists, sellouts and so on, who have this kind of cultural cabal, and then use that position to then morally grandstand to the rest of the country in the most exaggerated and ridiculous form where they pretend to be offended at everything. But Australians aren’t like that. Australians don’t give a fuck! Australians are irreverent. Australians swear all the time. We’re the descendants of convicts and we’re a colonial people. We’re kind of like rough. That’s one thing that I found frustrating whenever I visited other European countries or America was that often., …

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re too delicate. They’re too dramatic. Too delicate.

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! Everyone else is more delicate than us. Our political class is like a transplant from America. It doesn’t actually make any sense in Australian culture, but no one’s really challenging it except us.

 

And yeah, you should just see the expression in the faces of police officers when they have to deal with us. Or even when I went down to that polling booth the other day and I’m sure a lot of people have seen the video. I guess I’ll play it in a sec. When we were trolling the Liberal Party and the jews, do you know who was laughing the hardest? The people that were handing out flyers for the Liberal Party. They were all pissing themselves laughing at what we were doing! It really says it all.

 

Blair Cottrell: That laughter insinuates an understanding, a knowing that what you’re doing has some semblance of truth to it. It’s like that’s why people laugh. There’s some correlation between truth and humour. Comedians would understand it better than I do.

 

But yeah, it’s almost like someone’s saying the obvious, that’s funny! Like I said, their laughter insinuates that they understand that’s the truth!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like it wouldn’t be funny if they didn’t have an element of truth to it.

 

Anyway, enough about that. We had this pamphlet as well. It’s getting no media coverage. I thought it was just as funny personally. Maybe it’s a little bit on the nose for some people, but I mean we’ve got the Labor, you know, poo emoji, the pooh, the Pooh Labor.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what is that? What does that one say on the back?:

 

“Flood Australia with Indians. Albanese Government’s plan. Higher house prices and rents. Vibrant multiculturalism.”

 

Joel Davis: You’ve got to read the captions Blair so that it has the comedic effect. I designed this, …

 

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ll read the whole thing! I’ll read the whole thing. I’m just being lazy:

 

“Higher house prices and rents driving up demand to make sure you pay more. Vibrant multiculturalism. Not only do Indians smell great, they’re also extremely polite!”

 

Well, that’s not true:

 

“More Uber drivers. Being sexually assaulted by an Uber driver helps [chuckling] build character!”

 

Joel Davis: We love Indians on the Joel and Blair Show!

 

Blair Cottrell: And did you authorize this Joel Davis? [chuckling] Is this your idea?

 

Joel Davis: Yes, but I’ve been ordered by the Australian Electoral Commission to “cease and desist disseminating”. So we have ceased.

 

Blair Cottrell: When did that happen? Did they come to your house? What? How’d they do that?

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I got an email, and then they said:

 

“You’ve got to put an address. You can’t just put National Social Network Melbourne. You’ve got to put an address. A mailing address.”

 

Blair Cottrell: They found a technicality.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And the thing is, National Social Network doesn’t really have a mailing address.

 

But then I realised we had an old PO Box that is still active. So then I put the P.O. Box, and they said:

 

“No, that’s not good enough. You need to put your home address.”

 

And I was like:

 

“I don’t want to publish my home address. With communists firebombing people’s houses and stuff in the past with us, I don’t really want to do that.”

 

So I said:

 

“I’ll cease and desist.”

 

They said:

 

“Cease and desist or publish your address.”

 

And I said:

 

“I’ll cease and desist.”

 

So we’re ceasing and desisting. But we got a bunch of these out.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the point’s been made, the impacts there. And the elections tomorrow anyway. The final day to vote is tomorrow, I’m pretty sure. So I think it’s played out its role. The most honest Labor Party flyer! The most honest Liberal Party flyer!

 

[1:06:05]

 

 

Joel Davis: Honestly Liberal Party kind of like, builds up. You know, it starts off just making a point about the housing crisis, and it gets more and more absurd! Like, each line, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I think that one’s good. Like, to be honest, I think that one was actually funnier than even the Liberal Party one.

 

Joel Davis: Thing is that the Indians don’t have enough power yet to be able to make it into anything. The jews, they don’t have Indians on Sky News and they don’t have a bunch of Indians controlling the movement yet. They’re working towards it, I guess, but they don’t have that kind of power. So I guess, you know, no one cares.

 

And I think people didn’t really post about it much online because I guess a lot of Aussies just thought it was funny. I think a lot of people just thought it was funny and just chuckled to themselves and no one really got offended. So maybe we should have fired them in the Libshit area. We should have gone to like Brunswick and like the communist area and dumped them there or something because they probably would have seethed and freaked out about it.

 

But instead I thought we’d go to White working class areas where they’re actually getting replaced by Indians and we’ll dump it there. But then inadvertently I probably helped like the Liberals win some votes. So I don’t know, I was kind of dumb in that sense, but I thought it was funny.

 

At the end of the day, fuck both sides, obviously what matters is not Liberal or Labor, Blue team, red team, but rising above and realizing that it’s all bullshit! And you could say the same thing about both parties. The Liberal Party are trying to replace us with Indians and the Labor Party suck off the jews as well. So it’s like it’s all the same. It doesn’t really matter.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they both got similar sponsors with similar interests, don’t they?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s not really like you have a real choice. And people understand that now more than ever! Regular people I talk to in construction, old friends of mine, they just think the system is so corrupt they don’t even want to vote. They’re only voting so they don’t get fined. Like that’s the main reason a lot of them are voting. I hope that situation changes in the near future and there’s a decent option. I know there are some decent options in terms of Senators and stuff like that, but there’s no real, there’s no party that I feel is truly representative of the working class. Australian.

 

Joel Davis: No, I mean I do. I’ve become more impressed with the Trumpet of Patriots as things have gone on. Like they actually really, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Why is that? What’s going on with the Trumpet of Patriots? Why are you impressed by them? Explain.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know, I think their policies are actually pretty good. I think they have probably some of the best policies. And I like that they went, they took on Liberal and Labor. They’re saying:

 

“Fuck the Uni-Party, we’re taking on both sides. We’re not going to be the Right-wing of the Liberal Party, like One Nation. We’re going to actually take them on.”

 

And I appreciate that about them. Unfortunately, they have a very unsophisticated campaign. They don’t have good personalities, they slapped everything together at the last minute with the stupid name.

 

And so even though Clive has sunk ridiculous amounts of money into it’s an entire waste of money! I saw John McGowan on a podcast the other day saying that he was talking to one of his buddies who’s crunched the numbers and he said that for the same amount of money that Clive has put into all these ads that he’s taking out, like over $100 million he spent on all the advertising for this campaign, he could have bought a controlling stake in Channel 7!

 

Imagine he buys Channel 7, fires Kochi, replaces him with Ralph Babet. Now, Sunrise is hosted by Ralph Babet. You got Blair Cottrell doing Better Homes and Gardens. Every single segment. All the mums and the grandmas are going to be tuning into that every night as Blair shows you how to mow lawns and cook pasta and shit like that! How to build. Blair’s a carpenter, he knows how to build shit! You know, maybe you could even give me a show on there. Like, just put like a whole bunch of like radical Right-wing people on the program. Let that cook for three years and then see how many votes you get next time. You’re going to get way more votes than with this silly campaign.

 

But there’s no dynamism, there’s no real depth of thought, which is why I’ve said:

 

“Clive, you know, get in touch. You know, you could have given me 1 million rather than 100 million, and I probably could have got you more votes. You know, with a little bit of intelligence, you can see what I’m doing with zero million.”

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re on fire tonight. This is great stuff! Look, previously you’ve done some activism which was quite, I don’t want to say aggressive, but it was definitely serious. The message you were driving was a serious one.

 

Now, with this recent activism, you seem to have pivoted more to a satirical approach, like appealing to just humour. Is there any reason for that or was it kind of just a whimsical spur of the moment type thing?

 

[1:10:40]

 

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I just realised that I was a really that my horrible anti-semitism was just misplaced. I met my new jewish friends, Shlomo and Ben Shapiro, and they explained to me how they’re the chosen race of God and that I’m scum, I’m vermin, I’m beneath them and that I need to get down and worship them and serve them as their loyal subordinate. And I saw the light! I saw the light and that’s why I decided to go out and campaign for the Liberal Party and atone for my bad goy ways, you know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like the protest, whatever it is, like the leaflet drop, it’s over now. You can switch off the sarcasm. You can like get out of that mindset.

 

Joel Davis: Do you want to see the video or have you guys seen it?

 

Blair Cottrell: Let watch it. There’s going to be people who haven’t seen it. I made a little, I took some clips of it in the promo, but people need to see the full thing.

 

Joel Davis: I think someone said:

 

“A lady rang in 3AW while you were in Brighton.”

 

I wasn’t in Brighton!

 

So there’s been a bit of, there’s been, … I think that’s maybe what she’s referring to. Matt Trihey, he pulled up at the front of early voting booth in Brighton and started quoting immigration and crime statistics.

 

Blair Cottrell: The absolutely relentless Matt Trihey!

 

Joel Davis: Trihey’s been quality lately. He’s been active, he’s been on the front foot. We’ve seen good stuff this election cycle from What’s News, Lawrence. He got into a few press conferences and asked some questions. I think this election campaign the far-Right stunts have been very good. We’ve done a lot of stunts collectively as a movement.

 

Blair Cottrell: We’re evolving.

 

Joel Davis: And we have managed to consistently drive the narrative.

 

But the Liberal Party are such cucks that they haven’t really been able to benefit from any of it. They could have simply just been an actual Right-wing party and they could have used the energy that’s out there to win! Because that’s what for example, Trump did. Trump and Elon Musk, they played to the far-Right. They unbanned us off Twitter. They pretended like they were our guys, used our stunts to get elected and then rug pulled us right. And the Liberal Party isn’t even sophisticated enough to do anything like that, which is why they probably will deserve to lose tomorrow. Although, I don’t know, everyone is saying that the election’s done and Labor is definitely going to win!

 

I don’t know. I feel like Jacob doing the Welcome to Country could have unleashed a kind of series of dominoes that could potentially swing the election back the other way. Because, you know, Dutton immediately came out like an hour after on Anzac Day and said:

 

“These horrible Nazis! The Holocaust and Hitler was, … And blah, blah, blah!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Then when he saw the popular vote, he flipped!

 

Joel Davis: When he saw that everyone actually rallied behind us and didn’t give a fuck if we were Nazis, then he realised he had to get back on the right side of history.

 

Blair Cottrell: These Parliamentarians, man! They’ve got no integrity. I think Tucker Carlson was right when he said:

 

“They’re basically akin to used car salesmen and that’s what they would be in a better economy.”

 

They’re not impressive people. They’re not creating anything. They’re not very capable. They’re kind of like very, I don’t even know how to really describe it. Just mercantile of the worst kind! They don’t have any principles.

 

Joel Davis: The finest politician is, at the moment is Ralph Babet. Senator Ralph Babet. And obviously he’s brown and you know, we will deport him to “Caramel Island”.

 

Blair Cottrell: Caramel Island, Yeah. Yeah, that’s Babet. Yeah. That’s the only reason I know who Babet is, because I’ve seen the, …

 

Joel Davis: All the brown honeys, we’re going to deport to Caramel Island to be his harem when he assists us in re-establishing White Australia. That’s the official policy of Tom Sewell.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think if no one’s in the know about that meme, then I suppose, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, anyway, anyway, Babet, his response when they, he, quote tweeted, I can’t remember who, which news article, which news source, but they said:

 

“The Welcome to Country has been booed by neo-Nazis.”

 

And then he said:

 

“Good!”

 

That was his response. Imagine if Dutton had said that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that all he said? [chuckling] It was just “good”.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, just “good”.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s based, man! What a sick, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Yeah, exactly! But tomorrow when you’re voting, you can’t even vote for him. You can vote for some Trumpet of Patriots knockoff.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why can’t you vote for Babet? Is that because he’s a Senator in a different state?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, he’s not up for re-election because Senators serve double terms. So he got elected last election, so he doesn’t need to be re elected until next election.

 

So when you run for Senate in Victoria, Blair, you and Ralph Babet are probably going to be the two big names competing for the dissident Right-wing vote in Victoria. And that’ll be interesting. Maybe we can do a preference deal or something, so, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, I’ll have some high level speech writing. Like we’ve got some smart minds in the community right now.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, someone X Axe:

 

“Will this $2 get me a Caramel Island too, please?”

 

It’s going to cost you a lot more than $2, buddy. A lot more than $2.

 

Blair Cottrell: You have to be caramel [brown] too. You can’t go to Caramel Island if you’re White. That’s miscegenation, man!

 

[1:16:04]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but if you’re into the caramel honeys, you should be deported to Caramel Island because I mean, but that’s for people who are actually doing something of use. Like you have to earn it! The rest of you are just going back to your of origin. Crazy Recluse. He sent a Superchat, which was just at Crazy Recluse. Why are you sending your own?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think he might have made an error there. Yeah, he probably wanted to say something, screwed it up, sent the money by mistake. Now he’s got to send more money if he wants to actually say what he wanted to say.

 

Joel Davis: Sorry, bro. Skill issue.

 

But anyway, I’ll play this video because yeah, this is the edit that was made to fit for TikTok. By the way, if you have a TikTok account, go get this from my Telegram and post it on TikTok because it was kind of made for TikTok, but I don’t even have a TikTok.

 

So anyway, here’s what I got up to on Wednesday.

 

[Clip with Fiddler on the Roof music]

 

“Hi, my name is Joel Davis. I’m from the National Socialist Network and for a long time I was an anti-semite. But I realised quite recently once I had a conversation with my new jewish friends that actually I’m a dumb goy and that I’m a horrible anti-semite and I’m gonna go to jail if I don’t change my ways.”

 

“And so I’ve decided to come out here today to help campaign for the Liberal Party, unofficially for the Liberal Party, but I’m a big fan. This Liberal Party wants to put the jews first, giving The jews everything they want. That’s the platform. We can see here the fantastic policies on offer from the Liberal Party, in my opinion. And their plan to give jews everything they want. Israel first! Australia doesn’t even defend itself. Who cares about Australia? What matters is we must protect the state of Israel. Because they’re jews! And we’re just dumb little goys. We’re just cannon fodder. Abolish free speech! We all know that criticising jews is another Holocaust. Jail anti-semites.”

 

“The little goys like me belong in jail. Unless we can change our ways and show that we love the jewish community. In fact, we worship the jewish community. In fact, jews are the superior race chosen by God. And I’m just vermin! I’m scum! Making jews safe is all that matters.”

 

“Give jews free money. We all know the jews are doing it tough. You know, they’re short on coin. So the Liberal Party has got great policies to give the jews free money. No strings attached. And I love that. So consider this year, this election. Bring the jews first. Put a Liberal Party first. Give the jews everything they want. Vote Liberal!”

 

“Look at our policy. Great policies! We love our Liberal Party. Great policies. Israel first! Australia doesn’t need to defend itself. Why would Australia need to defend itself? I mean, what about Israel? Abolish free speech! Criticizing jews is another Holocaust. It’s another shoah! We can’t allow that. Jail anti-semites! We must jail all anti-semites! Forget criminals! Who cares! Anti Semites are the real issue. Making jews feel safe. It’s really all that matters. And we need to give jews free money because we know the jews a little short on cash, right?”

 

“So Liberal Party website. These are our policies. Not our policies. I’m not from the Liberal Party. I’m just a big fan. I’m a dumb goy. I’m a convert. I used to be an anti-semite. But now I realised I was a dumb future little bad little goy. I don’t want to go to jail. So I’m getting on the winning team! This is my jewish friends, Shlomo and Ben Shapiro.”

 

“Shalom! Shalom! And mazel tov! * You see here. Giving the jews everything they want. That’s all the Liberal Party is all about. And we’re dumb goys here to support Liberal Party. No, I once supported Palestine, but now I realise that I’m a dumb goy. And we’re here to support Liberal Party because we’re just dumb putrid little goys. You don’t deserve free speech we don’t deserve support. All that matters is the state of Israel and the jewish community!”

 

[* Mazel tov or “mazal tov” is a Jewish phrase used to express congratulations for a happy and significant occasion or event. Wikipedia]

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh man!

 

Joel Davis:

 

“What a good little shabos goy. Mazal tov! Authorized by Joel Davies, National Socialist Network.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Just dumb, [chuckling] putrid little goys, man! So I noticed Avi Yemini posted an image of the flyer that someone found in their letterbox or something before you even got a chance to post anything.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we made sure that they were distributed the night before to kind of, you gotta set the table before you eat. So Avi Yemini, he was like:

 

“Oh, how could the National Socialist Network distribute these flyers in the jewish community on the eve of Shalom Shlomo Shak!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Every evening is some important jewish holiday.

 

Joel Davis: And it’s like you have a Remembrance Day of the Holocaust every three weeks! We don’t remember what all your fucking days are, dude!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they have that many holidays, it’s like every evening is some sort of important holiday for some reason, or even it’s not a holiday. It’s like the observance of something really sad and important to them.

 

So you can’t really get it right. But what was the general reception like? It seemed like no one really got angry with. Did anyone get angry with you?

 

[1:21:34]

 

 

Joel Davis: No, not one person got angry. And you can see when I was like:

 

“Hey, look, the shabbos goy. Look at a good little shabbos going for the Liberal Party!”

 

She started laughing and then she took the pamphlet and she was reading it, laughing while I was talking.

 

And then there was another guy off camera who was also there for the Liberal Party handing out their Liberal Party flyers. And he was pissing himself, laughing so much he had to like turn around, he was like embarrassed and like cover his mouth because he was like pissing himself laughing.

 

And then there, it looked like the woman by the way, recall the Matt Trihey incident where he went to the Teal meeting and that crazy woman freaked out and punched him in the head. Remember that? A few weeks ago. A couple weeks ago,

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, of course.

 

Joel Davis: That same woman was sitting at that park bench and even she was laughing! Because it’s the same electorate. It’s Monique Ryan. It’s the same person for the Teals, against the Liberals in that electorate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe you’re not the only one who changed their ways that day. She seems to have flipped as well.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think the Teals probably like Palestine. The only people that didn’t find that funny was the Greens. You would think the Greens, the jews keep saying how they’re anti-semites because they’re pro-Palestine. But no, the Greens, they love jews!

 

Blair Cottrell: The Greens don’t like anyone, man!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Maybe they knew who I was and they, …

 

Blair Cottrell: No, they’re kind of just on principle they’re pretty much against everything.

 

Joel Davis: For some reason, they couldn’t see the light.

 

But there were some people there that were normies, that were just like, NPC moment. Like, they had no idea what was going on. Like, they were just like, blank. And there was a few other people that were smirking and sniggering. And laughing. And we didn’t want to be too confrontational because we weren’t trying to be confrontational. We’re just trying to be funny. So we weren’t really trying to get in anyone’s face or anything. We’re just handing out a few pamphlets and the footage doesn’t show everything. We handed out quite a few pamphlets at the start and then I started kind of making a bit more of a scene, speaking more loudly and stuff.

 

But, yeah, you know, it was just funny. Like, it’s obviously funny. And that’s the beauty of it, too! Like, what law did I break? Like, is it. Is irony illegal now? Like, how do you legislate for irony?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, what’s that Isaac Butterfield? Have I got his name right? There’s a comedian which is currently., … I don’t think he’s being charged with anything, but the Human Rights Commission, I believe, did contact him regarding one of his jokes about Aboriginals. So he’s locked up in. I don’t know if it’s a legal battle or not, though I won’t say anything else about it because I don’t have enough information.

 

However, I do know that there’s this precedent for “intent”, especially when you’re drawing attention to one specific religious or ethnic community. There’s a legal precedent for intent. I know because I was one of the precedent cases years ago for:

 

“Intent to incite ridicule, revulsion or contempt for a specific class or group of people.”

 

That’s what I was convicted of and I was one of the first people convicted in the state of Victoria under that piece of legislation. And that’s a funny one, because intent can be, … Pardon?

 

Joel Davis: That wasn’t my intention there. My intention was just to defend the policies of the Liberal Party. Because apparently it’s illegal to criticise them. Well, when I tried criticising them five months ago on the steps of Victorian Parliament, they raided my house and they said I was a very bad boy for doing that! So now I’m like:

 

“Okay, fine, you win. I’ll join your team. Okay, I’ll join your team!”

 

Everything in that flyer was factual, other than maybe, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but doesn’t matter. Truth doesn’t really matter in court. What matters is what can be proven. But I think as long as your intent wasn’t actually to target the jewish community specifically, as long as your intent was just to be funny or to be satirical, I think that’s fine.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, it’s funny because one of the policies of the Liberal Party is the jail anti-semites, apparently. And they said:

 

“Oh, no, that’s horrible neo-Nazi propaganda. That’s not one of our policies. Anyway, we’re going to send you to jail for saying that!”

 

All these jews were calling for my imprisonment. They were calling we should be declared “terrorists”. Apparently that was terrorist. Apparently doing a, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Who said that?

 

Joel Davis: I saw jews on Twitter saying that I’m a terrorist and that the NSN should be declared a terrorist organisation for doing jokes. And it honestly that was probably the most jewish thing I’ve ever done in my life. Like, it was a very jewish comedy style, like Borat, like goofy skit. It was kind of like Sam Hyde meets jewish comedian meets, like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Where’s that jewish comedian? What was his name? Neil would know who I’m talking about. God, what was his name? He dug a hole. I’m wondering why he isn’t weighing in on this. He was on radio for quite a while and he dug. He’s known for doing all sorts of weird stunts. He dug a hole next to his mother’s grave so he could scream out in the hope that she would hear him. Her corpse. He was asking her corpse if it was okay if he married a non-jew. What was his name again? Guys, in the comments. Does anyone know who I’m talking about? He’s like this Australian jewish, you know, shock jock, radio hosts, and maybe someone will remember his name. But he’s kind of been absent for the last few years. He was pretty much into political commentary when I was active, you know, five or six years ago. But now he’s gone and I’d like to get his 2 cents on this kind of thing because it’s up his alley. Yeah, there is a general, … John Saffron! Where’s John Saffron these days? I’d like to hear his take on this incident.

 

[1:27:21]

 

Joel Davis: Where’s like the chaser? Remember there used to be like the Chasers war. And there was a whole series of these Australian political comedians and they were all like libertarian. They were all kind of like:

 

“We’re not really Left-wing or Right-wing. We just think it’s all bullshit!”

 

Kind of like South Park comedians.

 

And then that kind of style of politics died out in the 2010s. Like, everyone became polarised and you have to pick a side. And they were no longer able to be above it all. It just became cringe!

 

And so there’s a kind of a dearth of political comedy now. And it’s like, now like actual political activists have to pick up the slack and do the comedy because no one else is capable of doing it. I guess that’s kind of unique.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s an effective strategy. Like, Australians love to laugh. Like, we don’t take a lot of stuff seriously. It’s part of the reason that we’re not interested in current official politics. One of the reasons it’s boring, is because it’s not funny. It’s not interesting because it’s not funny. There’s nothing that can be appreciated on that level of humour.

 

So I think, I’ve always said this too, from the beginning, that humour should be one of our weapons in general activism.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

A lot of people in the chat are saying:

 

“Who should we vote for tomorrow? Who should we vote for?”

 

I mean fuck, it’s not that complicated. I’ve said it before as well. I think we should put the Liberals last to punish them. You should put the Right minor parties first. It doesn’t really matter what order you put them in. I would say I like the Trumpets, but putting them. When you put someone first, they actually get money from the AEC [Australian Electoral Commission]. If they get over 4%, they end up accruing money per vote. So you’re giving money to parties.

 

So I would say, if you had a Rennick candidate, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Let me chime in. How does the AEC get money to give to parties? Is that like public money?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: I didn’t know that. I thought parties had to fund themselves.

 

Joel Davis: I think it’s a good thing. I think it’s a good thing because it means, like, if you can get a certain amount of votes, that means that you have some constituency, so then the taxpayer will fund you to run a proper campaign next time, rather than money just determining politics. But Trumpet of Patriots don’t need your money because they’ve got Clive Palmer behind them, just wasting money on their campaign. So putting them at number one, unless you really think they’re going to win, there isn’t much point.

 

So maybe put another Right-wing minor, like put Rennick at one or something else. Don’t put One Nation above Trumpets though. They don’t deserve it. But put something else at one. But just put your Right-wing minor parties in a line. There’s Trumpet of Patriots, there’s Libertarians, there’s One Nation. There’s Rennick People’s Party. There’s Family First. There’s Sustainable. There’s a bunch of them, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s two different pieces of paper. There’s one piece of paper, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it’s true for both. This is true for both. Obviously in the House you might not have as many options, depends where you live. But group them up and put the Liberals last! That’s what I think. Put the Greens above Liberals, put everyone about the Liberals. That’s what I say we should do this election.

 

People, you can disagree all you like, but put the Right-wing minor parties first. That’s what matters. Uni-Party last, Liberals dead last. That’s what my ballot’s going to be. That’s what I think everyone’s ballot should be. That’s my opinion. It doesn’t really matter what order though, because that’s how preferences work. It doesn’t really matter too much.

 

If you put, say you’ve got like a One Nation and a Trumpet of Patriots in your electorate and then you’ve got like a Liberal-Labour and a Green and some other shit! Whichever order you put the One Nation or the Trumpet of Patriots candidate. Well, the preferences. If you put the other one second preference, if you put the one that’s less popular, the preferences will just go to the other one. So it doesn’t really like matter too much. Just put the Right-wing minor parties first. It’s not that complicated.

 

Blair Cottrell: But now you’re being a bad goy, Joel, someone in the chat just said, I thought you’d seen the light and you were all about stamping out anti-semitism. Now you’re flipped again. This guy, this guy’s just got no consistency!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what I deal with. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: I did appreciate the sexy jewesses on Sky News that were fluttering their eyelids at me.

 

Blair Cottrell: And you know, oh, hey, they definitely all had to chime in and say something about you. I noticed that. And I noticed they almost seem to enjoy talking about it. Like they were fighting a smile. I think they like the drama, those women. It seems that way.

 

[1:31:43]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think basically the attitude of them is interesting because I knew that the jews would freak out and I just wanted to make them freak out because I just wanted to show the Australian people again how ridiculous these people are and how powerful they are as a ridiculous people, as a ridiculously hysterical people. And that is a problem. And all I have to do is a very slight provocation and they just show themselves again.

 

And I think what I’ve noticed since the election was called and the campaign began, notice the Liberal Party shut up about jews. For months, the jews were all they could talk about.

 

And then the election got called and then they obviously focus grouped it and they realised that Australians don’t actually give a shit about jews or anti-semitism or Israel or any of this stuff. And they’re not going to win on that platform.

 

And so they zipped it up. They kept their trap shot and just. And stopped talking about it. I just wanted to make him talk about it again before the election so everyone could remember, like this is who we’re dealing with here. And they played right into my hands.

 

And I remember there was one article that was written about it by some jewish woman in Caulfield that was like:

 

“I feel so violated that a Nazi would come up to my letterbox and penetrate it with his disgusting anti-semitic flyer!”

 

And it was like, what? Penetrate?

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s interesting.

 

Joel Davis: Why are you describing it like this? Like, it’s so weird, man! It’s kind of like they’ve got.

 

Anyway, they’ve got some weird fetish going on is what I’m saying. What? The jewish women, they put on red dresses and go on Sky News with all their makeup and they’re like:

 

“He’s so mean and horrible and anti-semitic and he’s a bad guy!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I think they go to sleep, …

 

Joel Davis: Why are you talking about me? Don’t you realise that I just did that because I knew you would talk about me. And that was like the whole point, the whole point was to make you talk. Like I just made you do that. And you’re just like,

 

Blair Cottrell: Caroline.

 

Joel Davis: You’re like my little, like jewish, you know, puppet. A little, my little jewess puppet! I can just make you yap!

 

Blair Cottrell: Goodness me! But Caroline, I think especially involves a bit of conflict. She sees it as her duty to get on there and really have a go at you after you’ve popped your head up and done something again. But she specifically is the one that seems to be fighting back like an aggressive grin. I think she just enjoys the conflict. But hey, this is only my observation. I could be wrong. Maybe they’re traumatized, going to bed, scared for their lives because of the rising anti-semitism. Who am I to know for sure?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but like if you want anti-semitism to stop rising, you can do one very simple thing jews. Shut the fuck up! Then it will stop rising. It’s rising because you can’t keep your fucking mouth shut!

 

Blair Cottrell: But you’d think something crazy! Do you think, …

 

Joel Davis: I know you won’t keep your mouth shut, so I’m just going to keep making you talk. And the more that you talk, the more everyone, it gets sick of hearing you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you ever wonder if the jewish community, do you think the jewish community might try to inspire some threshold of anti-semitism in order to have the justification for more laws, more rights, more protections, more money? Do you think a bit of anti-semitism actually benefits the jewish community sometimes?

 

Joel Davis: No, I don’t think so. I think what benefits them the most actually is being in the shadows and is being out of the public eye.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re not so much in the shadows. A lot of them especially, …

 

Joel Davis: They were in the shadows in Australia for decades. And they’ve only really come out into the public eye in a very prominent way in recent years.

 

And I think it’s a very bad move for them. Because they don’t have organic popularity in Australia. It isn’t like in America where you’ve got a bunch of idiot like Evangelical Christians that are ready to worship the state of Israel. Australians, no one cares about you. They either don’t like you or they don’t care! Those are the two positions that Australians have. Most of them don’t care.

 

So if you get in on the media and you get out there and you keep yapping about jewish problems all the time, all you’re going to do is make everyone sick of your shit! And you’re going to destroy all the sympathy that you have. Or if you just shut up and talk about Muslims and how Muslims are horrible and pretend like you’re one of us, pretend you’re a fellow White, that was a good strategy that was working for you. And they can’t maintain it. They can’t hold it.

 

Blair Cottrell: I suppose that’s one way Australian apathy can work against the interests of hostile groups. Because Jacob was saying that Australians tend to be a bit apathetic when it comes to politics, but it is hard to get Australians to really care about anything. It’s hard to get Australians to care about jewish suffering. It’s hard to get Australians to care about Holocaust stories. Most Australians, actually, …

 

Joel Davis: One thing they do care about though is the Anzacs. And they’re sick of being, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Because it’s tradition. They care about traditions.

 

[1:36:46]

 

Joel Davis: Not just tradition though. It’s the blood spilled for our people. It is the most important day of the year as an Australian is Anzac Day. There’s no greater expression of what it means to be an Australian than the fact that men were willing to go and die for us to have this country. That is the be all and the end all of what it means to be an Australian is those sacrifices that were made in the spirit of those sacrifices.

 

And when that is kind of aggrieved and aggressed against by a Leftist Aboriginal humiliation ritual, that’s something that got everyone pissed off and that’s why it has such a strong reaction. And you saw the system completely got shown with its pants down. It thought that it could just shove that in everyone’s face and get away with it. And they thought they could just dismiss opposition to it as:

 

“Oh well, it’s just a bunch of Nazis behaving outrageously!”

 

No, the people don’t care. They still sided with us. So people do care about some things, not many things, but some things. But one thing they don’t give a about is Israel.

 

So the Palestine people are doing a great job of pissing everyone off as well because no one cares about Palestine either. So the more that they yap about Palestine, the more everyone hates Palestine. That’s what they don’t realise. But the same is true for Israel. Both sides piss everyone off the more they talk. The smartest strategy for either of them would be to shut up! But neither of them are capable of doing so because on the one side you have Leftists and on the other side you have jews. And these are the two most hysterical, ridiculous demographics of people in all of the world.

 

So all you get is feminine screeching and yapping and bitching and moaning and our entire society is ruled by. It’s like a bitchocracy. And the common sense patriot said:

 

“They’re the forgotten men and women, the average Aussie battler who realises that it’s all bullshit and they’re sick and tired of the bitching!”

 

And we want a divorce. Get the fuck out of our house, woman. Like you haven’t made me a steak or sucked my dick in fucking years. Why are you even here anymore? Why am I paying for your jewelry? You know, why am I buying you expensive perfumes? Why are we constantly having to buy brand new couches that cost like 10 grand because you don’t like the colour of the old ones? I’m sick of your shit! I’m going to go and buy my midlife crisis Ferrari and drive the fuck out of here and go and get a new girlfriend who’s 15 years younger. That’s how Australians feel. So.

 

Blair Cottrell: Curious analogy. Curious.

 

Anyway, yeah, someone was asking in the chat how my eyes going. You might notice it’s still a little bit screwed up! I actually had a perceptible cellulitis, which was a nasty infection of the skin around the eyelid and it threatened my vision actually, so I had to take some antibiotics. I’m done with that now. It’s mostly healed, but because it was so damaging to the skin cells, it’s going to take a couple of months to actually regenerate completely.

 

So the infection’s gone, but yeah, I’m looking a little worse for wear there, but it’s pretty much gone. But, yeah, thanks for asking.

 

How have you been feeling lately, Mr. Davis? There’s been a few sicknesses going around. Have you managed to dodge those?

 

Joel Davis: I felt on the edge of sickness for the last week or two, but my immune system is holding in and I’m just continuing to keep taking forward step after forward step because I’m not going to allow myself to get sick right now. I’m on a little bit of a war path trying to troll this election. And then maybe once the election is over, I’m gonna take a week, chill out, maybe read some books, not go online too much.

 

But yeah, I don’t get sick that often. I’m feeling pretty good. But what else is there to talk about?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s been a really interesting last week or two in Australian politics and everything seems to be building up. Not building up, but heating up as a result of the election. Did you see the guy on the bike? The guy, the cyclist who was like randomly attacking a Trumpet of Patriots leafletter. I don’t know what that guy’s deal was, but after I saw that footage, this guy was like viciously attacking this old guy who was just handing out flyers, I think because someone called him a retard and he took offence to that because he does actually have a mental disability. He didn’t really seem to though. He seemed to be able to hold himself pretty well.

 

And I thought to myself after seeing that, is the Australian population, or a portion of the population so medicated that political violence doesn’t even make sense anymore? Like you’ll insult someone personally and they’ll just attack you because “that’s racist!” He was like screaming racist and shit as well. Yeah, I don’t really know what to make of the whole situation.

 

All I can say is that I’m happy that things are heating up. I’m happy that Australian politics is becoming somewhat more interesting largely because the activity of guys like yourself. And you know, election time used to be boring. Election time was boring in the past. It’s not as boring anymore. I’m glad for that.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, true. And it’ll be more interesting next time when you can vote Nazi and we’re going to give you some actually some real interesting politics. This is just a little appetizer what can come next time when we get this show on the road.

 

But yeah, I saw that clip of and what it made me think is Trumpet of Patriots need to “tribe and train”. You know, that was weak as piss! The guy offered no defense. He just got like rocked with like two leg kicks and then this overhand right and he just kind of cowered. He needs to shape up and throw down. You know, he’s a common sense patriot representing Clive Palmer. Imagine if he just like blocked it and just like threw a right hand down the pipe and just knocked that libtard out. It would have been epic! They probably would have got a few votes from that.

 

So you know, come and step to the guys handing out flyers for our party and see what happens. You’re not going to be cowering like little. I tell you that they’re going to give you a nice counter right to the jaw.

 

But yeah, you know what I would say is this, Australian politics is still fundamentally boring.

 

Blair Cottrell: Officially.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it does. It does seem like even though this election doesn’t really matter that much, it does seem like positive trends. I think the non-mainstream party vote is going to be bigger than ever before. It’s going to be bigger than what the pollsters are saying. The Right-wing minor party vote is going to be bigger than ever before. And it’s all very encouraging signs. Things are polarizing. And that’s what we need to get out of this red team, blue team dichotomy and into a real political dynamic where it isn’t just slight variations on the same policy, but where it’s actually a genuine ideological debate between two genuinely opposing positions.

 

So we can have a real discussion about who are we as a country and what direction do we want to go in. Are we a multiracial sludge that hates ourselves and wants to basically abolish our own history? Or are we proud White Australians that want to actually continue having a country? And that’s the defining and animating question in politics in our time. And everything else is just kind of secondary to that.

 

And that’s the other thing as well. Like these Trumpet of Patriots type people, they can’t quite own it. You know, they’re basically playing to our type of thinking, but they can’t own it. So what was precipitated was that guy was like:

 

“You guys are racist!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Well, you’re a retard!”

 

And then he had this whole conniption of like:

 

“You’re racist. This country’s multicultural!”

 

And the guy had no real counter assertion like:

 

“No, this is a White country.”

 

Or anything like that. He couldn’t say that it’s like:

 

“No, no, we’re not racist. You know, we just want an 80% cut in immigration because there’s a housing crisis!”

 

Or some bullshit! So there’s a there’s still a fear in the right to really be what we truly are, which is us! We don’t have that fear.

 

And so we’ll continue to lead the way.

 

Blair Cottrell: We’ve got a whole bunch of Superchats that we can start working on if you feel to.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, let’s just go through those. Sector 88 said:

 

“Giving money to racists and Nazis makes the world a better place.”

 

Yeah, well, you’re right. Pay up mother fuckers!:

 

“Any opinion on the Brethren campaigning for the Liberals?”

 

No opinion. I don’t really care. And I know for sure that Blair has no opinion and doesn’t care either. Or do you?

 

Blair Cottrell: Brethren campaigning for the Liberals? What do you mean, Brethren? Is anyone campaigning for the Liberals?

 

Joel Davis: They’re a relatively strange sect of Christianity. The Brethren Church.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, I thought you meant Brethren as in, like allies of ours or something. I don’t know. They’re probably being paid to do it. Wouldn’t that be the case? Why else would they do it?

 

Joel Davis: There was some controversy that they were kind of flexing and they were imposing themselves and trying to take over certain branches within the Liberal Party. I don’t know too much about the ins and outs of it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe the Liberal Party could serve as the basis. What’s left of the Liberal Party could serve as the basis for a radical Reformation of the Christian faith. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I doubt it. The party is controlled by homosexuals and jews, Freemasons. And it’s going to stay that way. Yeah, like, they talk about this like:

 

“Oh, the Brethren are infiltrating and taking over the Liberal Party!”

 

Like, as if it hasn’t already been infiltrated and taken over by other religious groups. When jews do it, when Freemasons do it, its fine! But when some other random group does it, then all of a sudden:

 

“They’re weird cults and they’re trying to take over!”

 

And there’s a huge double standard.

 

Blair Cottrell: Basically, everyone., …

 

Joel Davis: Everyone’s trying to take over everything. That’s reality.

 

Blair Cottrell: Every human group coming together for any purpose is basically a cult. We derive the word culture from cult. A cult basically means a collective of people trying to achieve something together. Right. We have like, negative connotations with the word, associated with the word cult, obviously. But I like to think of it as basically just the grouping of people with common interests.

 

Spartan Sardica just sent a single dollar. Must be tough times wherever Spartan Sardica is living. And he says:

 

“This planet deserves a singular emperor with absolute authority. And that shall be me. All those that stand against is this!”

 

Should I read this out for $1? I don’t think I should. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, I mean, if you’re going to be running the planet, surely you got more than a dollar. You can only afford a dollar a Superchat you can’t even get a whole Superchat read out. That’s how weak your Superchats are. You think you can run the planet? I don’t know.

 

[1:47:54]

 

Blair Cottrell: I thought it was like a decent Superchat. Then as I got halfway through, I realised that, …

 

Anyway, the next one’s from Comfy friend. Friend of the show and someone who is generally appreciated by the community for various reasons, sends in through. 20 bucks. Thanks, mate. He says:

 

“Blair’s eyes looking better, but the shades were a vibe, not gonna lie.”

 

I don’t know about wearing glasses inside. It seems a little bit pretentious to me, so I’m not going to do it again. But yeah, thanks, bro. Appreciate.

 

Joel Davis: Sunglasses seem to infect your personality. Like you had this, like. I don’t give a aura through the whole stream.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think it’s because you couldn’t see my eyes.

 

Joel Davis: Pretty cool. But I feel like for the Anzac Day episode, it was almost like wrong. It’s like we’re supposed to give a fuck about this like, usually you can be all detached and stuff, but yeah, because your eye obviously. But it wasn’t just about the eye though. The sunglasses, they were like a spiritual exoskeleton that like transformed your self image or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that how you feel when you wear the Joel Davis signature wraparounds?

 

Joel Davis: No, not really. Because they’re a different style of sunglasses. They got a different aura about them. Aura. It’s real. M. Cottrell said:

 

“Team Blair always!”

 

I don’t know. Is that? Do you know who that is?

 

Blair Cottrell: That could be a family member or it could just be someone with a similar name. But thanks.

 

Joel Davis: They use a little black emoji doing this. What? Use the White emoji. Like, what are you doing?

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe they’re just really tanned. Maybe they’re really tanned.

 

Joel Davis: Whatever it’s fucking up Spartan SA Delka said, this guy’s sending all these $1 Superchats:

 

“If we lived in a democracy, there would be no mass migration because most are against it. I would be against it if they had all the information about it. Jew clown world has encouraged crime.”

 

Well, this guy’s really sending down the red pills. He’s blowing our minds right now. I never thought of it that way before. Lucky Kavanaugh said:

 

“Jacob Hersant is an Aussie hero. White power!”

 

Yeah, I think we can all agree on that. We love Jacob.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Jacob’s, …

 

Joel Davis: On the stream, Jacob is so like proper or on his videos.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s a very humble, personable, funny guy! He’s very funny in real life.

 

And so I was working on loosening him up a little bit. But we’ll get there in the end. I’m sure we’ll get him back on and we’ll get a little bit more of the authentic Jacob personality out there. I’m confident that you guys will like it.

 

Joel Davis: I think he does it on purpose. Like he has obviously that personality. He chooses to because he’s trying to be professional. Jacob’s very professional. That’s one thing that he brings. I mean, obviously he invented the NSN, but one thing that he brings to it is a spirit of professional professionalism. He’s always pushing for high standards in various ways, including aesthetically. And that’s important because you have to carry yourselves well in order to be taken seriously and to convey a very particular aesthetic. You have to be very intentional. So Jacob is a very professional person in the way that he conducts himself as an activist. And so obviously that’s why he’s doing that.

 

But yeah, the Jacob off camera is always taking the piss and bantering constantly and so on. I think the people would probably like that on stream. So we got to work on bringing some of that out, I think.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Lucky Kavanaugh sent through. $10. Thanks very much, Lucky. And asks:

 

“What do you think of Shilo or Shiloh Hendricks?”

 

Is Shiloh Hendrick the girl that raised all that money recently?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, she raised like a quarter of a million dollars because she called the nigger, a nigger, or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Honestly, man, just giving some random woman money for no reason, especially that much. Well, it’s not for no reason, but you know what I mean. It’s not really for any constructive long term purpose that’s going to benefit the entire community, isn’t it? It’s all just going in one woman’s pocket. It doesn’t sit well with me. It just doesn’t sit well with me. But people can do whatever they want, right? People can do what they want.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it is weird! It is kind of like a weird phenomenon. I don’t really know enough about the particulars, but like, why are people dumping more money? Like, surely she’s got enough cash now.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s one of those. It began as like this community endeavour to demonstrate that we can support each other in a really effective, meaningful way. I don’t know something like that, but it just., …

 

Joel Davis: I think I know why, though. You know how a few, you know how like a month ago there was that black guy in America and he stabbed that White football player and everyone was horrified! And then the dad cucked out and was like:

 

“I forgive the nigger. He didn’t mean it.”

 

But he stabbed his, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I did see that, actually. Yeah, I did see that?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it was a massive story. Then the black community all took this guy’s side. Even though he stabbed some dude for asking him to like move over or so I guess some literally like simple and banal request, he stabbed this guy to death.

 

And then the black community took his side and they raised all this money. Like black started like giving all this money to the GiveSendGo for his family.

 

[1:53:18]

 

Blair Cottrell: So this is like:

 

“We can do it too sort of thing. Fuck you!”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! It’s like:

 

“Next time blacks get pissed off as at a White person, we’re just going to give them shitloads of money to show you!”

 

So it is a good expression of tribalism I think for American Whites.

 

But it’s like what they have is like a monkey stabbing an innocent young, good looking young White football player who had his whole life ahead of him in the heart and killing him forever. And all she did was call someone, I think a nigger was stealing from her, like stole some shit out of her baby’s pram. And she’s like called him a nigger or something. I can’t remember the exact details. Like totally justifiable actions!

 

So it’s like:

 

“I want a White person to like murder a nigger in cold blood!”

 

And then we’re like:

 

“Yeah, we’re taking his side, we’re taking his side! Fuck that nigger! Everyone give him a million dollars!”

 

That’s when we’re on the same level, when White people are willing to do that.

 

And that’s what I want. I think we need to take our own, because blacks take their own side no matter what the circumstances are. We need to start defending White killers. Next time there’s a White mass shooter in America who takes out a bunch of blacks or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Let’s be careful. Like we need to stay within the realm of, …

 

Joel Davis: I’m not endorsing that kind of activity.

 

Blair Cottrell: There we go. There we go.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t endorse it, that we should. Spartan Sardalka, another one of his shitty $1 yap Superchats says:

 

“As emperor of Earth, I will open a mini gas station in every abo area of Australia. First micro dose of gas will be free., …”

 

Are you Indian? I don’t think a White person could create slop like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s weird! It’s a little bit strange.

 

Joel Davis: A little bit of autism is good. It’s like sugar. A little bit is good, I guess sugar’s out. People like a lot of sugar. What’s something where a little bit is good but a lot is horrible?

 

Blair Cottrell: Meth? I don’t know. [chuckling] Maybe not meth.

 

Joel Davis: Actually, a little bit is good, but if you have too much, it’s very, very bad! It’s very, very bad!

 

Blair Cottrell: Home of the brave sent you $5. And he says:

 

“Did you see the White mum in the US?”

 

Oh, it’s the same. It’s actually the same question. Yeah, we just spoke about that:

 

“What a huge W when we disarm their cancel culture approach to race. Hail NSN!”

 

Yeah, bro. Well, thanks for the money and thanks for the support. Leeham sends through $5 and says:

 

“I like to use the word cult to insult groups. Can you please give me a better term to use?”

 

What do you reckon, Joel? Should I really ask Joel this question? Should I ask Joel for terms to insult people? Does anyone really want to? He’s probably got a few.

 

Joel Davis: I mean, you could still use it as an insult. There’s nothing wrong with that. Why not?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, generally agreed.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In that context, Anthony Scalise said:

 

“Much love and support, lads. Make sure you all support White Australia.”

 

Anthony Scalise is a great Twitter account. I call him the Boomer Whisperer. He kind of takes the message and then translates it into Boomer retweets in a very effective way. Yeah, no, he’s great, Great Twitter account. I love, love his energy. He’s always on the front foot. Absolutely sending it. And, yeah, he’s always been very supportive of us since I’ve known him and seen him around online. And, yeah, he’s also a big supporter in the future political party project.

 

And as you can see down the bottom, White Australia.org I’m going to start shilling this website relentlessly. Join the movement. Whether you want to join our movement in the sense of getting involved directly in the community, you can join there. But also you can get involved in a more basic sense, if you just want to be a supporter, a potential member of a future political party, you want to be invited to events that we’re going to host in upcoming time period, we’re building up an address book. Sign up for the political party and a vetting list and so on so that we can help build the infrastructure, the social infrastructure that can be the foundation of that party.

 

So if you want to get involved, White Australia.org and yeah, everything’s on the site. It’s a pretty basic site for now, it’s a bit of a placeholder site. We are building a much better one. We have not launched the political party yet. When we launch it, we’re going to launch it in a very elaborate form with a complete esthetic.

 

And we’re going to go there direct to do all the actual political party stuff. At the moment, we’re just building up the foundation to launch. We’re not in a rush. The election is tomorrow. Obviously, we’re not going to be competing in that. We chose not to rush it for this election. There isn’t another election federally for three years. And the next major election that’s relevant, I think, is the Victorian state election at the end of next year.

 

So there’s no rush to try and get this political party put together in two weeks. So we are taking our time because we have time before it’s relevant.

 

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Blair Cottrell: The next one is. We’ve posted one twice here. We can skip over the next one Joel. The next one’s Home of the Brave sends another $5. Thanks, mate. He says:

 

“Thank you, guys for showing the world the proper way to do flyers and do activism in general. Humor goes a long way and having a strategy for forcing the backlash. We desire outrage ju-jitsu!”

 

Yeah, well, that’s what we were talking about earlier, right? Like, there’s power in humour. It’s an effective weapon, and we need more of it. We need more of it in political activism, especially, you know, look, our situation is serious, it’s dire. We’re talking about the survival of our ethnic group into the future. But there’s no reason why we can’t enjoy the struggle.

 

There’s no reason why we can’t fight with a smile on our faces. Right. I think that might even be borrowing a quote from the Winston Churchill, the old dog. But I tend to. I like that one. I like the idea of going into a fight with a grin on your face. Yeah, sorry.

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say something about that as well.

 

Yeah. It is important that we. The activism is fun and it’s engaging, has to be entertaining and provocative. And that also, if we just had spurgey activism where we were just going through the tenets of National Socialism autistically all the time, that wouldn’t resonate with the people. We have to show our humanity and we have to show our criticism and relevance and interaction with the conventional political system. We have to bring them into a dance and create this kind of dramatic performance that show people:

 

“Hey, wait a second, those, I thought Nazis were supposed to be the bad guys or the ones that everyone hates. Like why are they the ones that are the funniest? Why are they the ones that are making all the right points? And why is the system of people who I actually hate, who are hysterical and who are hypocritical and etc. Why do they hate these guys so much?”

 

Like it creates that kind of provocative experience for someone to then start thinking differently about politics than if you just simply stated the ideas in a very kind of matter of fact, logical, autistic way. They just probably wouldn’t listen or really digest it. So I would say activism is a genre of performance art.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a good way to put it, actually. Well said. Yeah, Brilliance sends through ten bucks says:

 

“Love the show. Could I get your opinion on New Zealand?”

 

What’s your opinion on New Zealand, Joel? Do you have one?

 

Joel Davis: I mean, I’ve been to New Zealand, it’s a beautiful country. It’s like one of the Greenest places ever! I think the north island of New Zealand is some of the most fertile land on the planet.

 

One thing I think about White people from New Zealand are very pleasant and nice, but I would say that there’s something an extra level of cucked about people from New Zealand about New Zealand relative to Australia because they created a treaty with the Maori rather than just conquering and dominating, they kind of have this acquiescence. Now of course, we’ve got this Welcome to Country Aboriginal humiliation ritual stuff here now as well. But the distinction is that it’s kind of being imposed upon us late and in a way that the majority of people are kind of rejecting and resistant to.

 

Whereas in New Zealand, you know, people take a lot of pride, not just Leftists, but everyone takes a lot of pride in the whole Maori friendship thing. And it kind of, it’s kind of deracinating.

 

I feel like there’s a bit of a disconnection from the kind of White Identity of New Zealand. It’s almost like the Maori identity is primary and the White Identity is secondary.

 

Whereas in Australia when people think of Australians, they think of White Australians and White Australian culture and Aboriginals are this kind of like weird thing that’s also going on. But it doesn’t occupy a position of centrality in our society, no matter how much the Left try to make it. It really doesn’t.

 

And I think that there’s a spiritual problem, therefore, with New Zealand that I can see, I don’t know the exact solution to. I think when we take power, we’re probably going to have to subvert New Zealand for its own sake and like, conquer it. And I mean, not conquer it like it implies like a military invasion, but we’re going to have to annex it and like, psyop it into shape if we can ever win.

 

The salvation of New Zealand will probably be Australia rather than itself. But New Zealand, basically, it is a separate country from Australia, but it’s kind of almost not. Like New Zealand are kind of like a brother country. We have a shared history. We fought together in so many wars. Obviously Anzac Day we have in common, for example. And so many people from New Zealand live in Australia. I think there’s almost, 2 million people from New Zealand that live in Australia or 3 million or something, and there’s only like 5 million people in New Zealand and only about 55% of them are White. So there’s probably almost as many White New Zealanders in Australia as there is in New Zealand at this point.

 

So there’s free movement between the two countries. So any Kiwi can just move here basically and join Australia if they want to.

 

So I think we should kind of see New Zealand as our little brother kind of thing. We should see New Zealand as basically kind of an extension of Australia and then under an ideal future, it would probably be integrated into some kind of Australasian empire under our rule.

 

So I have a warm feelings towards people from New Zealand because I see them as the closest people to Australians that exist. But also, I don’t like this spiritual cuckoldry that I see.

 

And Australia isn’t in a perfect position, but, like, almost in the history of New Zealand, like, Australia’s history is very based. Like, Australia’s history is exceptionally racist and like staunch New Zealand, incredible military history. Like, you look at New Zealand at the Olympics. New Zealand will come top 10 at the Olympics and they’ve got no one there. Like, they obviously have incredible stock. New Zealand always do incredible at sports. They do incredible at extreme sports and things like that. They’ve got an incredible population, really good genetics. But because, yeah, because they didn’t crush the Maori, they should have crushed them! They should have absolutely just smashed them and taken that country fully rather than cutting a treaty. And I think that they kind of carry that legacy in a negative way spiritually.

 

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Blair Cottrell: Do you think they did that because they developed a respect for the fighting potential of the Maori? Because I heard a couple of reports from some early settlers that they were pretty vicious in warfare. And it’s kind of like it’s historically when the British Empire would encounter like considerable warriors or warriors that were considerably skilled or dangerous, they would tend to try to recruit them or do some sort of deal with them rather than just eradicate them.

 

Joel Davis: Part of it though, I think was also the French were there and they were trying to cut a deal before the French did.

 

But the thing is, like we had guns, they didn’t. Like we were a White modern population and the Maori were a primitive people. Like we could go in there and crush him if we wanted to. They took the easy way out. And I think some of that easy way out energy is there. I’m just going to be honest. And so I have a bit of contempt for that. I think that needs to be corrected in some way.

 

But obviously the Maori are far more impressive people than Aboriginals. They’re very, they are a strong people. Look at like how good they are at rugby and things like that. They’re obviously like a warrior race. So it wouldn’t have been simple beating them.

 

But at the end of the day you got to earn it. Like this kind of like let’s share a country between two races thing is just AIDS. Like if you’re not going to take it, go back to England!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. We might move on from the subject of New Zealand. I know some good people there. I’ve got some good friends there. I’m in some chats with some boys from New Zealand. I’ve met people from New Zealand and they’re Good Fellas. I’d like to go there actually to see the country and visit my friends.

 

Joel Davis: Beautiful. You got to go there. Absolutely!

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d like to get the opportunity. Maybe I will in the next couple of years.

 

Joel Davis: The most picturesque place I’ve ever been I would say. Like the nature.

 

Blair Cottrell: They filmed a lot of Lord of the Rings there, didn’t they? Lord of the Rings was shot in New Zealand. And that was good country to see on the big screen. But the home of the brave again with another $5. He’s firing away tonight. Says:

 

“It shows that there is considerable disagreement to the racism, bad mainstream belief. It’s not for her, it’s for mainstreaming racism at large. It shows it’s acceptable to be racist in 2025.”

 

Well, it’s acceptable for everyone except White people to be racist, but I know what you mean, that it’s becoming more acceptable. I wouldn’t say acceptable, but I think there’s less sensitivity surrounding White people being racist than there was probably 10 years ago, but everybody else is still that way, …

 

Joel Davis: We’re chipping away at it and it’s. And there’s a point at which you chip it away so much that the dam bursts and we’re getting close. That’s how it feels in Australia in particular.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that’s the idea. And biggest Superchat I think for tonight was from Daniel fox sends through 50 and says:

 

“Great work lads!”

 

Well, thanks very much mate for the support and thanks for watching. Really appreciate it. We kind of answered that question to some degree. The next one is from Zach who sends through $1 and asks opinion on the Maori:

 

“Do you think they’re as bad as Aboriginals?”

 

You touched on that briefly already, Joel. I don’t know if you want to unpack that whole debacle.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what do you mean by bad? Like obviously the Maori aren’t anywhere near as bad in terms of their like intelligence and incompetence. Like they’re a lot more functional of a people than the Aboriginals who, it’s debatable, are Aboriginals, even human they’re like borderline, you know.

 

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Blair Cottrell: So because I’ve personally, because I’ve always been into like heavy weightlifting, I’ve met a few Maoris, always got along with them pretty well. There’s a certain respect they have for strength. When they see strength in another man, there’s respect there, they respect it. And they’re wise too, especially when they get a bit older, they become quite measured, wise people. Relatively passive too, so long as you don’t do anything to really upset them. I’ve never really had much of a problem with them. And so yeah, there’s a certain respect I have.

 

I actually knew a guy, he was in the neighbouring cell when I was in Port Philip prison when I was younger. He was one of the youngest members in the world of Hell’s Angels at the time, one of the youngest patched in members. And we used to talk about the colonisation of Australia and New Zealand and he took the pro-White perspective even though he was like a full blood Maori. He said:

 

“I’m glad we got colonised by the British because before the British got there, we were eating each other and living in huts and shit! So the kind of quality of life we enjoy now is like far greater than that. So I’m glad for it!”

 

And that seemed to be a real common sense standpoint for someone to take. Like even though they’re not British, they can still appreciate the fruits of colonisation. And it was so rare for to encounter that perspective in someone who wasn’t White. It’s no wonder that it took a criminal mind to actually think outside the box and realise, or develop that perspective. Right.

 

So yeah, look, I’m sure there’s people, …

 

Joel Davis: They’ll say that in Australia but in New Zealand they love their victimhood.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I’ve heard stories, I’ve heard stories personally in Australia I haven’t really had much issue with Maoris but I know that people have. So it’s just my personal experience, you know.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean but obviously they’re very violent. They have very high rates of rape and things like that. I mean we shouldn’t live in a society with Maoris. They need to be removed from all White communities.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it would definitely be safer not to live with them. Can’t argue with that.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t find them as disagreeable to deal with as most other races to like talk to or whatever. I grew up in Sydney, I played rugby with Maori’s growing up and things like that. So I’ve met them and dealt with them and I never really had too many issues with them. They are kind of like more chill, slightly more intelligent versions of Africans.

 

Blair Cottrell: When they’re young they can be like really violent. We had run ins with them around Frankston where I grew up when we were younger. This is like 16, 17 years old. At that age they’re really rowdy! And you’ve got to put up a fight because they’ll stomp you if you don’t.

 

But we’ve got a viewer, Sal from New Zealand who’s a regular viewer of the show I think and she’s had different experiences with Maori’s, says that:

 

“Child abuse and domestic violence is a problem in their communities.”

 

Yeah, but yeah look there’s good and bad in every race. Right. I suppose we’ll just leave it at that. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Well, mostly bad, mostly bad. And we should have crushed them. But anyway the issues in New Zealand today are not like less so about that it’s more to do with all the Asians and Indians and stuff pouring in like it is here.

 

But yeah, the Maori question is one that if as Australians we get to the point where we’re addressing the Maori question, it means we have solved a lot of other questions. You know, the jeet question, the chink question, the jew question, the abo question, etc, so if we can get up to that question, I’ll be sleeping a lot easier. But at this point, it’s like so many rungs down all the other questions that we’re going to have to answer first.

 

But I think that’s basically a way to end the show. Someone called Nate Higgers on Odysee said:

 

“How do I donate money? Lol. I’m retarded!”

 

I don’t think Odysee allows you to do Superchats anymore. They lost their payment processor. So you can only do it either on Rumble or on Entropy. Entropy. Stream dot live dot Joel Davis. Those are the only two ways.

 

Blair Cottrell: If you guys are going to do that, if you’re going to sit up any later, do it with Joel. Because I’ve got to get out of this LED light. It’s starting to hurt my eyes.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, we’re ending the stream there. I’m just responding. Ending the stream there. You can have a crack maybe next week or something if you want to, but I’m tired. I’ve had a very busy week in ways that I can’t even get into. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we can’t even talk about that you don’t even know. It is a weird life being a Nazi dissident. But I love it! I’m enjoying it. I’m absolutely loving life. I hope you’re all loving life too. It is a gift. Every breath is a gift. God is great and let’s end it there. What a nice sentiment to end it on, if I could say so myself.

 

And thanks to the jews for falling for the trap again. You guys never fail, never fail to fall into my traps. So appreciate it. It was fun.

 

That’s one thing. When we do some of the other activism, I get different kind of emotions. Like, I get more of a spirit of like, anger or passion or like whatever worry, concern, things like that at the plight of our people. With the jews, I don’t know. That’s the kind of the funniest aspect I feel like we were just like pissing ourselves laughing after we left the other day. Like, that was just really funny in real life. Like, even the process, like when the boys put on the rabbi costumes or whatever, and we were just like pissing ourselves laughing, like:

 

“Okay, we gotta, like, act normal. We’re gonna be on camera!”

 

It was pretty fun.

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks for watching, guys. It’s been a good stream. I hope everyone enjoyed it. Goes hard when we do a couple of different guests and stuff. We should maybe look at doing that a bit more often. Keeps everything fresh and interesting. But Joel did a great job as always. Jacob was great! Keep the faith, everyone, and we’ll see you next week.

 

Joel Davis: White power!

 

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katana17
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[Joel Davis – Nazi Trolling is Still the Only Interesting Thing in Australian Politics – May 2, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/05/04/joel-davis-nazi-trolling-is-still-the-only-interesting-thing-in-australian-politics-may-2-2025-transcript/ [Cover Image] [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Blair Cottrell Jacob Hersant and Joel Davis discuss recent activism and the Welcome to Country booing incident causing much debate in Australia. Some key points: Jacob Hersant joins as guest host Discusses booing Welcome to Country at Anzac Day ceremony “I was booing only the Welcome to Country and mentions of diversity”-Jacob Explains Welcome to Country tradition in Australia Describes reaction of crowd to booing “Most people actually supported what we did, but the people there were…nervous”-Jacob Discusses motivations for activism Mentions legal issues from previous activism “I suspect I’ll be charged for that again”-Jacob on potential charges Talks about public response to booing incident Discusses NRL dropping Welcome to Country after incident Mentions Tucker Carlson’s comments on Welcome to Country “Welcome to country statement is basically psychological preparation for having your country taken from you”-paraphrasing Tucker Carlson Jacob discusses White Australia movement “We want the people on this continent to identify primarily with their race as White Australians”-Jacob Joel Davis joins as host [56:42] 1/2
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katana17
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Discusses recent satirical activism at polling booth “I just wanted to make him talk about it again before the election”-Joel on provoking jewish response Talks about election campaign and far-Right stunts Discusses voting recommendations for upcoming election “Put the Right-wing minor parties first. That’s what matters.”-Joel Talks about Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots party Discusses recent incident of cyclist attacking leafletter “Australian politics is still fundamentally boring”-Joel Discusses Superchats and donations from viewers Talks about Brethren campaigning for Liberal Party Discusses Shiloh Hendricks fundraising controversy “Why are people dumping more money? Like, surely she’s got enough cash now.”-Joel Talks about racial tribalism in fundraising Discusses New Zealand and Maori relations “I think when we take power, we’re probably going to have to subvert New Zealand for its own sake”-Joel Compares Maori to Aboriginal Australians “Obviously they’re very violent. They have very high rates of rape and things like that.”-Joel on Maoris Discusses personal experiences with Maori people Talks about child abuse issues in Maori communities “There’s good and bad in every race. Right.”-Blair Discusses other racial issues in New Zealand Final thoughts on recent activism “We were just like pissing ourselves laughing after we left the other day”-Joel Closing remarks and sign off – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 23,080 – Duration: 136 mins]
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Australiaboy
5 days ago
Great show guys thanks. If Blair is worried about LED lights and his eyes he should invest in some blue light blocking glasses they cut out all the bad blue light from screens also good for driving at night with all the weaponised headlights.
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RamonYolanda
5 days ago
Too many white Australian men” taking Asian women as wives and destroying our heritage
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KINGMAGNUSMUISC
5 days ago
“Putrid little Goy” 💀💀💀💀
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masklophobix
5 days ago
Karmelo donations were a thank you for killing a white kid. Shiloh donations are a F you to blacks.
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ProvingNihil
6 days ago
That father who defended that n!gger is a pussay.
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masklophobix
6 days ago
WTC overtly implies that the people being welcomes do not belong there.
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leibekohne
1 week ago
Is not ANZAC WW1 and WW2 kind of the same coin Where Australians had been duped into those useless wars fighting for jewsh financial and territorial interest, manipulating UK monarchy to fight our white German brothers who even in those cases did not stared those wars.? Where not then Australian politician puppets and traitors to civilized white Australian stock? Therefore celebrating ANZAC is ridiculous, it would make sense only when, those jewish scum responsible , would have being punished first for mercilessly using Australians Canadians as depopulating canon-fatter.
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Sinagoglies
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It is very odd that they promote warmongering politicians of the past and don’t go near the unjust reasons (Zionist bankster wars) behind both world wars, and downplay the Soviet satellite state called Israel who the ANZACS actually died for – nothing to do with freedom. AUSTRALIA WAS BETRAYED by Billy Hughes and England , yet Joel glorifies them. Australia had the largest death toll in WW1 comparative to population. You guys are bloody ignorant. General Patton was relieved of command of the 3rd Army by Eisenhower just after the end of the war for stating publicly that America had been fighting the wrong enemy – Germany instead of Russia and was then murdered! Anti (Zionist /bankster) War song: The Pogues – The Band Played Waltzing Matilda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThjY_qlEfg The ANZAC Fought for Israel NOT For Your Freedom https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mee2fiKxJUOY CHABAD, Soviet Israel☭Russia (& British-Israel high treason). The Perestroika Deception! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmsz3F-y1c The Pogues – The Band Played Waltzing Matilda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThjY_qlEfg The ANZAC Fought for Israel NOT For Your Freedom https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mee2fiKxJUOY CHABAD, Soviet Israel☭Russia (& British-Israel high treason). The Perestroika Deception! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmsz3F-y1c The Secret Masonic Victory of WW2 Documentary by Dennis Wise https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZpO5RMr0WXaN/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO1wKDH3BQA&feature=youtu.be Most of the leaders of the Allies were and still are freemasons including Weary Dunlop. I know of an ANZAC unsung hero who wrote a book WW2 criticising the military leaders of The Allies, but could not get it published as was far too controversial. Germany against Freemasonry https://historycollection.com/secret-society-peril-facts-freemasons-ww2/2/ EUROPA: The Last Battle – Part one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6QNO4Z_tuQ
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Love what you fellas are doing with one of the greatest White countries ever! This is the beginning of a multigenerational war, which ends in total White victory over the whole of the world. 🫡❤️
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Whatsthefrequencyken
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NZ and Australia were both supermajority White in 1945. There was no need to “go harder”. There was a need to preclude the spread of communism. Anti-racist liberal democracy with central banking was never designed to stop that spread.
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If General Patton wasn’t assassinated he probably would have become president instead of Eisenhower and he would have shut down the international communist movement.
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White people are looking for someone to rally around. Shiloh Hendrix has become that lucky person. LFG!
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hueyvam123
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The nogs & juice on juicetube stinking about her raising money is just too much to tolerate given how they were all cheering the nog who killed Austin Metcalf raising money for murdering a White.
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Eureka1854
1 week ago
Shiloh Hendrix just went nuclear, and for good reason.
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TRUTH1488
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Heil Shiloh Hendrix Heil the White Race
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whitehonkymonkey
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like i said in the chat, target footy and cricket crowds with pamphlets on the lies of the 1st and 2nd world wars and the truth about hitler etc.
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katana17
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[Joel Davis – What Did the Anzacs Fight For? – Apr 24, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/04/25/joel-davis-what-did-the-anzacs-fight-for-apr-24-2025-transcript/ [In this Apr 24, 2025 livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell discuss Anzac Day and its history: They emphasise the importance of attending Dawn Services on Anzac Day Blair is wearing sunglasses due to an eye infection They discuss how the Anzacs fought for a “White Australia” in World War I “Billy Hughes, our Prime Minister in the First World War, when he addressed the nation and he was basically asking people to sign up to go and fight, he said, ‘I bid thee, go and fight for White Australia in France’.” (10:00) They talk about Australia’s fears of Japanese expansion in the early 20th century Australia joined WWI to secure British dominance in Asia and maintain the White Australia Policy Discussion of Billy Hughes’ role at the Treaty of Versailles in defending the White Australia Policy (20:00) The RSL (Returned and Services League) strongly supported the White Australia Policy until the 1980s Debate over whether every individual soldier was consciously fighting for White Australia (30:00) “White Australia was the central animating concept of Federation. It was the central animating concept of World War I.” They discuss a quote from Billy Hughes about Australia’s destiny and “banishing” Aboriginal people (40:00) Conversation about how they developed their views
on racial inequality Discussion of Australia’s involvement in World War II, primarily as a “race war” against Japan (50:00) Cont’d
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katana17
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Britain’s decisions in WWII led to the decline of the British Empire (55:00) Criticism of how Anzac Day is commemorated today compared to the past (60:00) “When we win, Anzac Day is going to be like it used to be again. The people will be inspired again.” Discussion of a recent incident where Matt Trihey disrupted a political meeting (friends of the ABC) in Melbourne (70:00) Criticism of media coverage of the incident (75:00) They discuss the “gynocracy” and how it affects society and politics (80:00) “We live in a society where emotions rule over reason.” (82:00) Anecdotes about things being banned in primary school Discussion of men’s need for competition and outlets for energy Criticism of men who joke about being “domesticated” by their wives (88:00) They encourage listeners to protest if there’s a “Welcome to Country” at Anzac Day services (90:00) Discussion of Gerard Rennick and encouragement to vote for him in Queensland (92:00) Final encouragement to attend Anzac Day services and treat it as a “religious holiday” “Make tomorrow venerate tomorrow. Make treat tomorrow like a religious holiday. That’s what it is.” – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 16238 – Duration: 95 mins]
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  1. Bllo says:

    KILL A ROTHSCHILD A DAY, KEEPS THE devil AT BAY!

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