Ernst Zundel: This is Ernst Christoph Friedrich Zundel. I’m about to share with you what by now is a historical series of interviews, talk shows, tape recorded excerpts of radio shows and reactions to radio shows which I did in Montreal in 1967-68.

 

I used to live in Montreal for nine years amongst French-Canadians. Enjoyed my stay amongst the French-Canadian population immensely. It was a very interesting time for me in that I attended university in Montreal and was very active politically speaking. Sometimes four times a week at different places in churches, businessmen’s clubs, union halls, air cadets, Boy Scouts, schools and so on about political topics, mainly communism, separatism, and of course, my always and ever ready favourite topic, namely the swindle of the 6 million jews.

 

In those days, this was completely new terrain for me, as it was for everybody else. No one in the Western world publicly had discussed this topic very much and it was positively dangerous to one’s health to touch upon this topic.

 

However, I was writing a column in the university student newspaper and gave speeches at the university and so on, and always ready and willing to have an intellectual scrap, or whatever you want to call it.

 

I decided one night that I would like to discuss this particular topic on radio. And it came shortly after the war in 67, the Arab-Israeli war. And the reaction was so fantastic that I decided to tape some of these talk shows. Unfortunately, it would take hours and hours and hours to bring all the tapes that I have. So these here are really excerpts. The moderator of the show was a young English Canadian whom I have never met to this day, certainly only knew from the air, never even spoke in private via the telephone, always only while we were on the air or during commercial breaks. He was about my age, and later on I heard through somebody at the radio station that his father was in fact an RCMP, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police captain.

 

Now, I have no idea if this was the reason why this young man was allowing me so much airtime. It was an absolutely incredible situation in that he did allow me sometimes five hours of often very little interrupted time to expostulate and to expound my outlooks and theories on life. So much so as can be deducted later on from some of the statements made by jewish scholars who are complaining about the amount of airtime that I got.

 

He was a very kind fellow. I thought he was eminently fair. And for the first time I felt that the gentile side, or certainly my side or the German side of this issue got a really good public hearing and a good airing.

 

This issue that we are discussing in the following tape the Arab-Israeli dispute and the German reparations payment was so intensely and intensively discussed that delegations from the Canadian jewish Congress and from the Israeli consulate used to visit the radio station, putting all kinds of pressure on that radio station. And it’s again evident by what the moderator later on is saying when he repeats that he has had death threats and assassination threats, boycott threats and so on.

 

Also it is evident from the reaction of the jewish callers themselves. I would like to draw your attention to the fact of argumentation, how the jewish community of Montreal, both young and old, European and Canadian, male and female, of how they argue, the tactics and the methods that they employ. It is a tremendous lesson to be learnt.

 

All the hate and the vilification that can be mustered against an individual totally unknown to them, except for what is being said on the radio comes through there. You can see the intolerance towards me and towards things German. You can also see how impolite these people are in that they constantly interrupt me in this particular case. And they would do the same with other Gentiles, never to allow us to bring a thought, to develop it and to draw it to a logical conclusion. Constant interruption, constant deflection manoeuvres, constant ridiculing!

 

And another interesting feature of the discussion is obviously always the attack from the jewish side against the individual that is launching some kind of an idea. Never so much as to the content of the idea. Usually the attempt is made to destroy, in effect, the accuser. And I’m called a Nazi, a Neo-Nazi, a German, in the most hateful undertones, and men and women alike. It is very interesting.

 

The man is desperate and asked me during a commercial break to please come to his rescue. This is Mr Bell, the moderator, and to say something nice about the Israelis. Not that I had said anything that wasn’t nice, but he thought I should get him off the hook and get some of the pressure off him by stating my case of what the heck I was really driving at. Because he was being accused on air, off air, by the station manager and by the station employees, many of them who were jewish, of being an anti-semite of the worst kind!

 

And so that young man was desperate. And since he treated me very fairly, I also came out to take the pressure off him with one of my statements about my policy on Israel and so on.

 

Now, when one listens to this whole tape, I want to be specifically reminding you, listen to what happens to statistics when money is discussed. Statistics, sums of money, sums of people and so on. Money and numbers of money and amounts of dollars and amounts of people have nothing to do in the discussion on the airwaves. People get lost, confused! Just listen to the pauses in the argumentation whenever we are discussing different statistical facts and so on. This is a very important point.

 

[09:19]

 

In closing, I will have to point out yet again that the station manager was forced to have flown by a special courier plane every morning the five hour long tapes to the board of broadcast governors at that time in Ottawa, the capital of Canada. And these men would sit there and listen to the argumentation going on because the president of the Canadian Jewish Congress, Dean Maxwell Cohen, had stated in front of a Senate committee at the time that Ernst Zundel was:

 

“Poisoning the air and pitting jew against gentile.”

 

And so on in Canadian society. And the station was under threat to lose its licence. In effect, what happened, the programme was pushed back towards very late at night. The times were changed for the program. Sponsors were lost. This young man, Mr. Bell, in effect was again fired from his job, lost his livelihood and the station closed this particular talk show down!

 

Once again, jewish pressure had succeeded in silencing a voice. Listen to the tapes now.

 

[Start of radio show recording]

 

Ernst Zundel: An inexpensive way for Israel of gaining allies and of undermining Nasser and the other high hats. The $1 billions. This is pretty close to what the war costs currently. New budget came out in Israel and it allocates 37% of the total budget of the state of Israel for defense.

 

Radio Host: Right. Okay, there’s a call on the line now. And I don’t know whether this caller has figures or opinions.

 

Hello?

 

Caller 1: Hello? Hello. Yes, I want to explain something. This man who is talking to you is a German pro-Nazi, you understand? I know him. I don’t understand why you’re so interested in these stories.

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, is there a law against being interested in those stories?

 

Caller 1: I know that you are pro-Nazi German.

 

Ernst Zundel: It’s wonderful how you throw labels around. What are you?

 

You want to declare yourself? What you are?

 

Caller 1: Don’t try to come out and [words unclear] Speak to him. You’re in Canada, you’re not in Germany.

 

Ernst Zundel: I know I’m in Canada, that’s why I’m speaking Over The Airwaves here.

 

Caller 1: No, come on! Here you understand. Go to Adolf [word unclear]. You are pro-Nazi. I know who you are.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, you are pretty rude, sir. Truth hurts doesn’t it?

 

Caller 1: You try to come out to Mr. Bell, but you never have a truth.

 

Ernst Zundel: Very true. I don’t have a chance with Mr. Bell.

 

Caller 1: Right. You are a pro-Nazi. Go to [word unclear] Okay?

 

Ernst Zundel: Maybe it indicates something. Maybe it indicates something.

 

[Caller hangs up]

 

Radio Host: Now we’re dealing right now with some figures that are contrary to figures I have. And we’re getting callers. You have a few calls to take here.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Radio Host: Now, I don’t know if anyone has any figures against the figures you have, which you got from the consulate here. This is not the first time that whether you are on the air or off the air, that someone has accused you of being a Neo-Nazi or something. How do you react to that?

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, of course, being a German, they think it sticks.

 

But I would like to remind them that I was born in 1939. That made me exactly, let’s say three years old when Hitler was at his supreme. It made me six years old when the Allies liberated us. Moroccan troops and Algerian troops. And I had three sisters at the time. And I would like to tell those people how it felt to be liberated as a 6 year old boy. I also saw 141 bullet holes where my mother was chased across a field By a, [word unclear] you know.

 

Radio Host: Algerian and Moroccan troops. Where were you? Where were you exactly?

 

Ernst Zundel: Black Forest.

 

Radio Host: In the Black Forest?

 

Ernst Zundel: Maybe Freudenstadt, was burned down completely. The hospital city of Freudenstadt is about half an hour away from where I was born. Neighbor city of Portheim was bombed in February and, 20,000 people got killed in one night. All that as a boy. You never forget those things, the sirens wailing, the bombers coming across and everything else, you know.

 

Anyways, I was 6 years old when the war was over. Now I have a boy, he’s 8 years old. If I were to ask him, are you a conservative or liberal? He wouldn’t know. Certainly was no card carrying member of the Nazi party. I immigrated to Canada at the youth of 19, not even. I have been here for the last 10 years.

 

So I don’t quite see why I should go and discuss my ideas on the Middle East with Mr. Fontaine. As a matter of fact, I think it’s very intolerant from the man they called. Am I any less a Canadian because I am of German origin? I would like to remind this man that we are Canada’s third largest ethnic group by far. That we are far more numerous than the Ukrainians and that we are far more numerous than the jewish Canadians.

 

In other words, I have just as much legitimate right to be discussing anything that I believe, including the Middle East.

 

Radio Host: Right. Well, you don’t feel that you’re anti-Israeli?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I’m not. No, I’m not anti-Israeli.

 

But as I always say in every discussion, there is not only two sides to a coin, there is three sides to a coin.

 

Radio Host: That’s what I say.

 

[15:08]

 

Ernst Zundel: And if I look at the Middle East, I look at those hapless Arabs in their tents and those Arab soldiers, I know they have no axe to grind against Israel. They are victims of very emotional propaganda, because anybody that has a short wave receiver can pick it up. The operator of Radio Cairo. And the argument always emanating from Cairo is:

 

“That the jews have stolen your land and that’s why you are living in misery and in poverty.”

 

That’s why your Radio Cairo is lying.

 

So [word unclear] last week called and suggested that possibly a way out for the Israelis would be to pay a settlement to those people that lost their home, and their fields, in their stores in 1948 and possibly 1953. Is that a crime? Is that unreasonable? Is that being Nazi? I don’t see so.

 

Radio Host: Well, I think we have a gentleman on the line that you were talking with originally.

 

Sir?

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Radio Host: You’re on the air.

 

Caller 1: Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes.

 

Caller 1: Okay. Now, I don’t know about what you were when you were six, but you’re not six now. So the fact that you were six when Hitler was in power doesn’t have any logical reference to what you might be. Now, I’m not saying what you are or are not, but that has as illogical as an argument.

 

Let me ask you this.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

 

Caller 1: You say that two things. In the first place, you gave a figure, incidentally, I’m the chap you spoke to you last week.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right. I recognise your voice.

 

Caller 1: You gave a figure that a certain number of billions of dollars was paid to individuals, right. In Israel. What was that figure?

 

Ernst Zundel: According to the German consulate, it’s seven billion.

 

Caller 1: Seven billion?

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Caller 1: Now, how many jews were in Germany in 1933? German jews?

 

Ernst Zundel: 680,000.

 

Caller 1: How many German jews were killed by the Nazis?

 

Ernst Zundel: I think the figure is 320,000.

 

Caller 1: Well, I have a figure for you.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Caller 1: It’s a very large one. In fact, I think it’s a bit exaggerated. But even if that’s a true figure., …

 

Ernst Zundel: How much is it?

 

Caller 1: About 100,000 German refugees, German jews were left after the war. I think that’s a high figure, but I’m not sure. But even if that’s a high figure, if they all went to Israel, which they didn’t do, you see, if they all went to Israel, which they didn’t do, and if they were all paid according to you, they would all, by my calculation, they would all receive, have received about $55,000 a piece!

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a moment, sir. Just a moment. I know figures.

 

Caller 1: Let me ask you this now.

 

Ernst Zundel: No, just you let me answer you right back.

 

Caller 1: Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: So we don’t get off the track here.

 

Caller 1: Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: The missing 200,000 or 250,000. Between my figure and your figure. Did you ever think that many jews between 1933 and 1938 went to Czechoslovakia?

 

Caller 1: Are you kidding?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I’m not on that. I’m dead serious, man! I can bring you very [words unclear] that went to Czechoslovakia and that went to Vienna and that went to France and that went to, …

 

Caller 1: Are you kidding?

 

Ernst Zundel: I’m dead serious.

 

Caller 1: How can you be. How can you be. How can you be dead serious?

 

Ernst Zundel: Okay, we have a very prominent Montreal journalist that is always interviewed, that writes for many tourist papers. If Mr. Bell wants to pass the name up, I’ll give you the name. He left Germany in 1933.

 

Caller 1: Of course. Of course, there was some. But it required a great deal of money and they had to leave most of their property behind.

 

Ernst Zundel: But he didn’t. This man’s father didn’t.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, well, you have an individual case.

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a moment.

 

Caller 1: You have an individual case.

 

Okay, so how many were left? 300,000, you say. If there are 300,000 German jews left.

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I didn’t say that. The figures that, as you said to yourself, there are some exaggerated figures.

 

Caller 1: No, no, my figures exaggerated 100,000. I think it was very much fewer. But even if it’s 100,000, that would give each one of them $55,000. Is that what they got in reparations from Germany?

 

Ernst Zundel: Sir, I didn’t count the money. All I did is some research. Told the authorities that paid the money and that had the money on the book.

 

Caller 1: Now, did you go to the people who received the money?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, sir, I didn’t try to.

 

Caller 1: Well, let me give you some advice. If you go down the street from the West German consulate, there’s the Israeli consulate.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Caller 1: Why didn’t you bother to take the figures that you got from the German consulate down to the Israeli consulate, and ask them if they put the same interpretation or indeed if they have the same figures that you got from the Germans? Does that ever occur to you? If you’re a journalist?

 

Radio Host: That’s a fairly good idea.

 

Caller 1: You’re a journalist, aren’t you?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes, sir, it has occurred to me.

 

Caller 1: Well, before you get on the earth, before you send any stories to any newspapers, before you publish anything, go and check your figures from both sources. You say stories have two sides, and these three sides!

 

Ernst Zundel: Would the New York Times be a good source for accurate information?

 

Caller 1: I just told you what to do. And why didn’t you go to the Israeli consulate?

 

[20:05]

 

Ernst Zundel: Sir, would the New York Times you good source?

 

Caller 1: No, I don’t trust. I don’t trust any newspaper.

 

Ernst Zundel: Don’t eh?

 

Caller 1: No.

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, maybe I’m a bit more trustworthy. I trust that the Minister of Finance.

 

Caller 1: All I have of course is your report of what you read in the New York Times.

 

Ernst Zundel: The Minister of Finance of Germany had faced 482 Parliamentarians in Germany. Plus the whole press corp.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: Plus the Canadian [words unclear], plus the Canadian Jewish Eagle, plus the International Scientist Organisation and stated that we have, …

 

Caller 1: Let me ask you something else. Let me ask you something else.

 

Ernst Zundel: Go right ahead.

 

Caller 1: You mentioned the Canadian Jewish Eagle, eh, This is a Yiddish newspaper.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Caller 1: I have many, many Christian friends here in Canada. As a matter of fact my adult years were all spent amongst non-jews. I’m a very jewish person. I would have to speak to 1,000 of them to find out anyone who has ever heard of the Canadian Jewish Eagle. How come you’re so interested? How do you know about it?

 

Ernst Zundel: Is it a crime to be?

 

Caller 1: No, no!

 

I’m just curious as to how you come to know about it. Do you read Yiddish?

 

Ernst Zundel: Do I read Yiddish?

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Ernst Zundel: That’s my business. I just might, you know.

 

Caller 1: You just might.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

 

Caller 1: Just like [word unclear] and he reads Yiddish too.

 

Ernst Zundel: Let me tell you something. If maybe that indicates something to you that my grandfather’s name was Isidor Meyer.

 

Caller 1: Isidor Meyer?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah. How do you like that for [word unclear] You think about that for a while.

 

Caller 1: Listen, listen. If you know any German history, you would know that German history is filled with a man like, … Do you know any German history? Ever hear of a man named Peppercorn?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I know a man.

 

Caller 1: He went by the name named Peppercorn, lived about 400 years ago.

 

Ernst Zundel: That’s right.

 

Caller 1: And he was one of the worst anti-semites, a convert, that ever lived. I don’t care what your grandfather was called. You see, that’s not evidence of any kind.

 

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say whether I read Yiddish or not.

 

Caller 1: I’m just curious about your interest in it, you see. What is your interest?

 

Ernst Zundel: My interest is.

 

Caller 1: Yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: I’m interested in many things. You want to have a couple of statistics?

 

Caller 1: No, no, just why are you. Why are you so interested in the jewish question and Israel?

 

Ernst Zundel: Because it is very vitally involved with Germany and with the history that we are being taught.

 

Caller 1: Can I read something to you in a moment, Mr. Bell?

 

Ernst Zundel: Mr. Bell.

 

Radio Host: Yeah, I’m listening.

 

Caller 1: You got a moment there? Can I read something? I’ll give you the name of the guy who wrote it just in the paper as well, but just let me read it, if we’re concerned with these raids back and forth and the German interest in it.

 

Radio Host: Ah ha.

 

Caller 1: One of the more efficient leaders. This is a publication date of January 3rd.

 

Ernst Zundel: What year?

 

Caller 1:1969.

 

One of the more efficient leaders of the Al Fatah terrorist organisation is a tall, slender man who calls himself Al Hatch, “Pilgrim” in English. Al Hatch heads a group of specialists trained to assemble bombs which in turn are smuggled into crowded civilian areas of Old Jerusalem. In all likelihood, the recent terrorist attack which cut scores of lives in all Jerusalem, most of them women and children, are the work of this man.

 

Al Hatch is a master of disguise. He crosses the border sometimes in Arab guard, but more often dressed like a European. He also sports a forged Swiss passport. In his European clothes, he does not look one bit like an Arab, and for this reason, he was able to cross practically at will until his identity became known. There’s a good reason why Al Hatch is able to pass as a European. He is none other than Richard Winterhalter, formerly of the SS Death head squad. Winterhalter, wanted by West Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia for war crimes, operated both in Terezin, Theresienstadt and Auschwitz. Winterhalter was the key man who arranged for the death trains bringing elderly people from Terezin to the Birkenau extermination factories. He has also trained the special command of Auschwitz prisoners temporarily reprieved from the gruesome task of bringing bodies of murder victims from gas chambers to the crematoria.

 

Winterhalter escaped from a British prisoner of war camp during the summer of 1945 and crossed him to Italy. From there he made his way to Egypt, where he converted to Islam. During 1949, he made his pilgrimage to Mecca, calling himself Al Hatch. The newly created Mohammedan, promptly joined the battle against Israel and served under the notorious Mufti of Jerusalem. So, on about the deliberation plan.

 

Ernst Zundel: Now, who writes? What paper is it?

 

Caller 1: This is written by Peter Lust.

 

Ernst Zundel: Oh, well, Mr. Peter Lust. Wonderful.

 

Caller 1: Yeah. Now, this information, since he names this name, it suggests to me several things. In the first place, I want to ask a general question. I don’t dislike the Germans. I’ve been to Germany several times. I’ve met many young German people, in fact, in Israel. But I don’t understand. This is what I just can’t get through my mind about the German engineers who worked in Egypt, the German engineers who are working in Syria.

 

The Germans are helping these people now to fight the jews. Why can’t they just leave them alone? You know, they tried to get rid of them 30 years ago, 20 years ago. Why can’t they just leave them alone? Why just have to go on and on trying to get rid of what Hitler left over. Can you explain that to me as a German?

 

[25:08]

 

Ernst Zundel: I don’t know.

 

Caller 1: Have you ever thought about it?

 

Ernst Zundel: I don’t. Look, I came to Canada when I was 19 years old.

 

Caller 1: Don’t give us that bit again. You know. How old are you now? You’re 30?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, I’m 30.

 

Caller 1: So you read newspapers?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I do.

 

Caller 1: So you read about your fellow Germans who work for the Egyptians and the Syrians? What do you think about it?

 

Ernst Zundel: What do I think about it?

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Ernst Zundel: They’re engineers. They were forbidden by the allied, …

 

Caller 1: What do you think about it? No, don’t tell us about what they were forbidden. What do you think about it as a fellow German?

 

Ernst Zundel: You don’t have to be so aggressive. Anybody that shouts and screams indicates usually that he is [word unclear]

 

Caller 1: Not necessarily. If he gets stupid replies, he has to shout.

 

Ernst Zundel: I haven’t even made my replies, because you are so aggressive. So.

 

Caller 1: Well, what do you think about it?

 

Ernst Zundel: What do I think about it?

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Ernst Zundel: These people like for instance, Messerschmitt that build a plane for the Egyptians and the engineers like. Well, I think Metzgar is one of his name that builds El Kahir that never brought fire during the Arab-Israeli war, which is a rocket with a 600 mile range, along the V2 line. These men, by the treaties of or by the Nuremberg Judgment, are forbidden to build this kind of stuff in Germany. So they were looking for new fields.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, but why did you mean. Was that the only place. You know? There are many Germans who go to Israel to work. I’ve met them there. I’ve met them working in the kibbutzene, if they wanted. If they wanted to go someplace to work.

 

Ernst Zundel: If you are Messerschmitt that had designed jet planes and rockets, you’re hardly inclined to continue your career in an Israeli kibbutz.

 

Caller 1: I suppose. I thought he could have gone to Brazil where Dr. Mengele is, you know.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah. What is Dr Mengele, is he a rocket engineer?

 

Caller 1: No. Well, I could have gone to Brazil needs. It’s a funny thing, but they always end up. They always seem to end up on the side facing the jews! What do they want from us?

 

Ernst Zundel: Wernher von Braun is he facing the jews, sir?

 

Caller 1: You got one example there. And you had dozens working in Syria and Egypt.

 

Ernst Zundel: Anybody that followed Apollo lately knows precisely how many German rocket scientists are in America.

 

Caller 1: I’m not so excited about Wernher von Braun either I’m interested in knowing from him he’s going to testify in a trial. You know, I’m interested in knowing from him just as I’m interested in knowing from other just plain soldiers when they were in Germany for that long period. And since they are not stupid people. He knew exactly what he was doing when he was designing the V2s. You know, his conscience is not that kind that gives me admiration. I would just assume, just assume if he had been told that if he didn’t design the vehicles, they would shoot him, that he had let himself be shot. You know, he’s not one of my great heroes.

 

Ernst Zundel: How many of you Russian scientists that created the what they call the Stalin Organ rocket?

 

Caller 1: I haven’t the slightest idea about that.

 

Ernst Zundel: All right, how many of the, …

 

Caller 1: Let me ask you one last question.

 

Ernst Zundel: How many of the Canadians. Hang on for a moment. Do this one by one. Okay.

 

Caller 1: Yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: You thought you could bring in a couple of good points and let me answer them.

 

Caller 1: Yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: Those people that designed Liberator bombers.

 

Caller 1: I haven’t the slightest idea.

 

Ernst Zundel: Jews themselves.

 

Caller 1: Liberator bombers?

 

Ernst Zundel: That turned Dresden into a fiery inferno.

 

Caller 1: Are you? You’re not serious, are you?

 

Ernst Zundel: I’m dead serious.

 

Caller 1: The more you talk. You know, you’d be smart if you hung up right now. The more you talk you give yourself away.

 

Ernst Zundel: Why are you afraid you’re losing the argument?

 

Caller 1: No, what’s the point of bringing Dresden into this?

 

Ernst Zundel: Because in Dresden the estimates are apart from Mr. Peter Lust that was invited by Walter Ulbricht at his expense to go behind the Iron Curtain. I think Mr. Irving in England wrote a book about it.

 

Caller 1: Yes, I read the book. I read the book.

 

Ernst Zundel: All right. He says 300,000 people got killed in one single bombing raid.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, well, if the Germans had been smart in 1933 and they sat on Hitler, they wouldn’t have killed in 1944.

 

Ernst Zundel: We are not talking about who is smart. We are talking about what crimes.

 

Caller 1: Well, the Germans themselves were responsible for it. That was no crime. I’m against it. I’m against killing anyone. I wouldn’t have killed that one. You know, I’m against killing everyone. But once you start on that road, once you start on that road, that’s the way you end up.

 

[29:23]

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes, but anyway, doesn’t that answer my original argument again?

 

Caller 1: No, it has nothing to do with it because the people, …

 

Ernst Zundel: Wernher von Braun should have shot himself?

 

Caller 1: Yes, absolutely! Before even trying to [word unclear].

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. Air Vice Marshall Harris that was in charge in England of the bombing of Dresden. There over 300,000 people, mainly refugees and women in an undefended city. It was called an “open city” via the Red Cross from Geneva. There was not one fighter plane that protected it. No [words unclear].

 

Caller 1: I can just imagine Hitler doing that. Well, my dear chap, I mean this is the information you get from what side?

 

Ernst Zundel: These 300,000 people got killed. I don’t see Air Vice Marshall Harris shooting himself.

 

Caller 1: That’s hardly a comparison, you know. Air Marshall Harris was fighting against an aggressor. It was Hitler that started the war!

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, you know, finding out [word unclear] is very interesting because, …

 

Caller 1: I see. As I told you’d better hang up. The longer you talk, the more you give yourself away.

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. We’ll come back to it because you, …

 

Caller 1: You certainly sound like a six year old.

 

Ernst Zundel: Fine. I’m taking history at Sir George Williams University, sir. And you know what they are teaching us there? That at the very same time, I think it’s Sep 9, 1939, that Hitler walked into one side of Poland, Stalin walking to the other side of Poland. He occupied half of Poland and Hitler occupied the other side of Poland.

 

Caller 1: Two birds of a feather.

 

Ernst Zundel: Pardon?

 

Caller 1: So how does that make Hitler less an aggressor?

 

Ernst Zundel: If you are fighting the aggressor. Your point was that Air Vice Marshall Harris was fighting an aggressor?

 

Caller 1: That’s right. Hitler walked into Czechoslovakia, …

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. Why was Air Vice Marshal Harris not also bombing Moscow?

 

Caller 1: They weren’t fighting with Moscow? Moscow wasn’t the enemy.

 

Ernst Zundel: Moscow was an aggressive, just as much as Hitler was!

 

Caller 1: Yeah, but Moscow hadn’t attacked England. Moscow wasn’t firing V2s at England. Besides that Hitler had, …

 

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear] aren’t you?

 

Caller 1: No, no. Yeah, you give yourself away.

 

Let me ask you one last thing. Let’s get back to 1968. Let’s get back to 1969.

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

 

Caller 1: We follow your advice. The Israeli government from the $14 billion plus the $7 billion it’s got for the individuals.

 

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say that.

 

Caller 1: Incidentally, is that the word that the Germans are using reparations that they paid to Israel?

 

Ernst Zundel: No.

 

Caller 1: What word do they use?

 

Ernst Zundel: In German they call it [word unclear] That means “to make good again”.

 

Caller 1: I see, Right. It’s not reparations since Israel wasn’t at war with Germany, right?

 

Ernst Zundel: And then some Germans wonder if Israel didn’t exist as a state, why Germany should pay for it as it didn’t exist?

 

Caller 1: Yeah, that’s a good question. Do you wonder that too?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, but I’m just pointing out to you.

 

Caller 1: Let me ask you guys. Let’s carry on then here, eh? You say you’re suggesting to solve the problem in the Middle East. East that Israel with its $14 billion and its $7 billion.

 

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say 14 billion and 7 billion. You got the figures wrong. You should listen more closely, let hear what you want to hear.

 

Caller 1: Didn’t you say that the reparations, so-called, to Israel was $14 billion and the money paid to individuals was $7 billion? Isn’t that what you said?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I didn’t.

 

Caller 1: What did you say?

 

Ernst Zundel: I said that under the treaty with the state of Israel directly, Germany made payments to the state of Israel to the tune of $3, 450,000,000. And this, …

 

Caller 1: What’s the 14 billion dollar figure?

 

Ernst Zundel: Pardon?

 

Caller 1: What’s the 14,000,000,000 dollar figure?

 

Ernst Zundel: I said up to 1969 all the reparations by policy paid to individuals, to the state, people living outside Israel was $14 billion.

 

Caller 1: Including people living outside Israel?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

 

Caller 1: What’s that got to do with the Israeli government?

 

Ernst Zundel: Okay, I’ll try. I’ll do it slowly for you. Okay.

 

I said separate treaty. One is between Israel as a state, you know as a state government of Israel?

 

Caller 1: Yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: Between the Bonn government and the Israeli government. Money involved in that?

 

Caller 1: Yes, that’s 3, 450,000, you say.

 

Ernst Zundel: And there were payments involved between Israeli and between jewish individuals and carrying Israeli passport. But they don’t have to live in Israel, because Germany allows a dual citizenship in the case of a jew. Do you understand?

 

Caller 1: So you’re not including the figure of German ex-German refugees who had never gone to Israel? You’re not adding in that figure? You know, not all German refugees went to Israel.

 

Ernst Zundel: I know that.

 

Caller 1: So you’re talking with German refugees who either went to Israel and left or else they got the Israeli passport and here’s the passport. Okay, well this is a small thing. The first thing, let me repeat that you better, you’d better go to the Israeli consulate and find out what their side of the story is. Now in addition to that, let’s take your figure for what it. Let’s take your figure for what it may be. I accept your figure!

 

Ernst Zundel: Israel and James Weissman and David Ben Gurion and Levy Ashbolt, they have never quarrelled with these figures. Because these figures are open for everyone to see, including Mr [word unclear]

 

Caller 1: I accept them all. I’m not quarrelling with them either. I accept them in total, including your translation into German Reichmarks, so it sounds like 50 billion. But I’m not quarrelling with that. You’re suggesting, you’re suggesting, …

 

[35:03]

 

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. I’m afraid I have to translate it into German marks because Germany doesn’t deal in [word unclear] or in [word unclear].

 

Caller 1: Yeah, but what purpose was there for you to mention German marks at all? All Canadians can understand dollars.

 

Ernst Zundel: It’s the currency to start with, ..

 

Caller 1: Yeah, I know, but you you said whatever the figure was 50 billion Marks. That sounds like $50 billion to someone not listening carefully.

 

Ernst Zundel: One second after I gave it in dollars. So look, don’t, …

 

Caller 1: Yeah, okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: You’re terribly suspicious, I must say.

 

Caller 1: So we’ve got whatever billions of figures you got there. And you’re suggesting that they should take some of this money and pay to whatever refugees are within their reach. Well, how much to each one.

 

Ernst Zundel: Nope. The last time I suggested. And this is my suggestion as an individual, it’s not a German government policy. They would be horrified if they heard me discuss this problem anyways because they’re such cowards when it comes to this.

 

Caller 1: What have you got to do with them? You said you’re a Canadian. What do they care what you say? What do they care what you say?

 

Ernst Zundel: I’m just declaring it to you.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, okay. So what’s your figure? 500 bucks a piece?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I said commensurate with what they lost. And this is very easy.

 

Caller 1: But they didn’t lose anything, you see. They weren’t chased away. They left of their own accord, as you said yourself, because the legislation, the agreement, or rather the resolution that was passed at the United Nations at that time in 1947, which divided Palestine, remember not including Jordan, just Palestine, west of the Jordan, into two states, gave to the Israelis only that part of Palestine which was generally occupied by jews on land which they had bought from the effendis, and for which, incidentally, they also paid the peasants who didn’t own it at all!

 

In other words, these refugees didn’t leave from any land which at that time belonged to the jews. They left of their own accord, as you have yourself admitted on broadcast. On broadcast from their Arab neighbours. Okay, now, so what should, what should they be compensated for?

 

Ernst Zundel: Let me continue. First of all, many people that left were not peasants. Many of them were, …

 

Caller 1: I didn’t say that they were peasants. Those that left from [word unclear] weren’t peasants.

 

Ernst Zundel: You know, in other words.

 

Caller 1: But they weren’t chased away.

 

Ernst Zundel: Look, this wasn’t my argument at all! You’re always trying to put words in my mouth. I didn’t say that you don’t have to be hostile.

 

Caller 1: So why should they have to be recompensed for what I said?

 

Ernst Zundel: Oh, hold on. Look, tonight when I came on again, if Israel is in need of allies, which I think she is, and Israel says she is, then those 2 million Arabs would be very good allies.

 

Caller 1: What makes you think that?

 

Ernst Zundel: What makes me think that?

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Ernst Zundel: Because these people are, I’m sure, very tired of living in tents. They would be very good friends of Israel if they thought that the Israelis were giving them a hefty deal than the Arabs.

 

Caller 1: And it’s your speculation that if they were paid by the Israelis, they would suddenly become friends of the Israelis. Is that your speculation?

 

Ernst Zundel: Hold on, those Arabs that are living in Israel since 1948, you yourself and every other jewish caller that called said they are treated like an Israeli, they are prospering, they have all the military service and everything else.

 

Caller 1: Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: Are they hostile to Israel?

 

Caller 1: Generally speaking, no.

 

Ernst Zundel: Okay. You see what I mean?

 

Caller 1: No, but it’s hardly the same thing, you know.

 

Ernst Zundel: It’s the same thing. Right now hundreds of thousands of Arab refugees are living in territory administered by Israel.

 

So what I was suggesting was extend the same policies that you, …

 

Caller 1: That’s not the same. That’s not the same policy, at all! You know, if you were to pay them whatever figure you think would be adequate, would they be then brought back to Israel or would they be left where they are? Where would they go? With their little payment, with their little check? Where would they go?

 

Ernst Zundel: Hold on for a minute. It would be in the interest of Israel, I suppose that they would settle them somewhere, which I think Israel is trying to do.

 

Caller 1: In Israel? In Israel? In Israel?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, in the new territory.

 

Caller 1: What new territory? The Israelis aren’t keeping those territories.

 

Ernst Zundel: According to the Montreal which I have in front of me, it says that these territories are called the “new territories”.

 

Caller 1: These territories are called the new territories?

 

Ernst Zundel: Right.

 

Caller 1: What date? What story is that?

 

[News Break]

 

Radio Host: You had a question you wanted to ask? Go ahead.

 

Caller 1: The other end is not just taking up your time. But he considered what he suggested, a practical solution to the problem. Now does he consider. We didn’t finish before we went to the news. Is he suggesting, if I may be wrong, suggesting that these people would, the refugees would come into Israel to get paid.

 

In other words, the one and a half million who are now outside would have to return to Israel. They would get to pay whatever. He didn’t specify what amount of, let’s say, several hundred dollars. And they would remain in Israel, Is that the suggestion?

 

[40:12]

 

Ernst Zundel: I can’t decide where they wanted to go, where Israel wanted them to. It’s entirely up to them. But my main point in bringing up the payment angle is that I know that those people live on handouts from the United Nations and they are always in every story that we hear and read it, that they were dispossessed by the Israelis.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, but this. Yeah, I know, but, …

 

Ernst Zundel: You see what I mean, it would be a good point as far, not as a publicity stunt, I wouldn’t want to say it that way. But it would be a great deal in the favour of Israel as far as the world situation is concern. And specifically for those small Arab people, whether they be peasants or herdsmen or former storekeepers. To them, I’m sure it would show the goodwill of Israel and it would make life out of every statement that emanates from Beirut or from Cairo as [word unclear].

 

Caller 1: It doesn’t require this to show up the statements that emanate those countries as lies tell people to those people.

 

Ernst Zundel: People with a full stomach and a square meal and more comfortable mud hut rather than a, …

 

Caller 1: But don’t you don’t, in the first place, if you base your suggestion on the moral question that they were dispossessed by the Israelis, therefore the Israelis would look better in the eyes of the world by recompensing them in one way or another. This is from a false start because they were not dispossessed by the Israelis.

 

This point has been made time and time again! And it doesn’t matter how often uninformed people say that they were dispossessed by the Israelis, it still doesn’t make it true, because you can’t turn back history and say because it’s repeated, therefore it becomes true. The only reason there should be any compensation, I mean, if the Israelis had it and if other governments had it, they should give it to their human being.

 

But from a practical point of view, I don’t see, looking at the way the Arab governments around there operate, I don’t think it would make any difference whatsoever to forming, to getting peace with the Arab countries. This is what the Israelis are after. They want to sit down with Egypt and with Jordan and with Syria, if Syria can stay on one seat for a long enough time and sign a peace treaty after 20 years.

 

Now, how payments to the refugees who would either be kept after that they can’t be admitted to Israel because Israel hasn’t got room for them. What they would do with the money, that they would go to Amman or they would go to Cairo. Those countries could have taken them before and they didn’t. They kept them there for a special purpose. And for you to think that because they will get several, on the contrary, it’s very likely that what would happen if they got the money, it’s such an impractical suggestion. How would the money get to them outside? Would they be in checks or in cash? In Jordanian money and Egyptian money? You know, if they got it, they would probably end up in their mind having the money taken from them by those governments. What makes you think that if they were to receive that money, it would make the slightest difference in the attitude of the Arab governments, the Arab governments to Israel?

 

Ernst Zundel: First of all, I have to. Maybe I am naive, I doubt it. But the point is, if Israel wants to have peace, it is obvious that the Arab government for the last, 20 years, the government, the cliques in power, whether they be the Bath party, whether they be the colonels of Nasser or whatever they are, those in power are not speaking for the small peasants, but they are using those peasants as a weapon and as a tool.

 

Caller 1: Let me ask you something. Have you been to the Middle East?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I haven’t.

 

Caller 1: Have you never been to Turkey?

 

Ernst Zundel: No, I haven’t.

 

Caller 1: Or Egypt? None of those countries?

 

Ernst Zundel: Have you been to the moon?

 

Caller 1: Yeah. No, no, I’ve been to those countries and it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference what the peasants think. It’s the colonels that are in Cairo that matter at this point. I don’t see what the peasants, how the peasants [words unclear] at all!

 

They’re medieval countries, you know.

 

Ernst Zundel: I don’t see that the [word unclear] himself has stopped across the border, planted a mine in the market in Jerusalem and blown up 10 Israelis.

 

Caller 1: He might as well have. What difference does it make? He tolerated the people who did it.

 

Caller 2: Not partial at all! This is the World Almanac of the 1966 Yearbook of Britannica. Now, there’s no bias in there or any prejudice. I will quote you if I may.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right. Well, I got my figures from an almanac too.

 

Caller 1: Oh, okay. The overall picture, this is page 430. Under the topic of Israel. The overall picture was one of continuing prosperity and expansion, tempered by a growing balance of payments problems which was expected to become more serious because of the ending of the German reparations payments. This I assume, is in 65, which had ended.

 

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear]

 

Caller 2: Just a minute.

 

Ernst Zundel: World Almanac reparations payment too.

 

Caller 2: These had accounted for about $70 million annually. Now, if you carry that for 20 years, that would be a total of 1, 400,000,000. Which does not come anywhere close to your figures.

 

So how do you account for that? This is to the state of Israel, money reparation.

 

[45:22]

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, how do I count for that?

 

Caller 2: You said 7 billion.

 

Ernst Zundel: I thought I went to the horse’s mouth.

 

Caller 2: I beg your pardon.

 

Ernst Zundel: I thought I went to the horse’s mouth.

 

Caller 2: Yeah, but you went to the wrong horse.

 

Caller 1: Your zoology is all wrong.

 

Ernst Zundel: It’s the person that pays the Bill usually less in funds than the person that, …

 

Caller 1: He usually tries to build up what he paid, though.

 

Radio Host: Well, in terms of Britannica, though, I would assume that to arrive at any figure they would go to more than both sides. Again you have to, …

 

Caller 1: Definitely! And through the fact that it involves the changing of funds into international currency of some kind.

 

Radio Host: Right. Well, when we use the term dollar, it is accepted that it is the American dollar.

 

Caller 1: Yes, that’s right. That’s the international currency.

 

Ernst Zundel: Hold on for a moment. I’m mulling this thing over here.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, it’s probably 7 billion in Reichmarks is that would make it a billion 400,000!

 

Radio Host: Yes, it wouldn’t it?

 

Caller 1: Yeah, 7 billion Reichmarks would make it a billion 400,000.

 

Ernst Zundel: The ratio is not.

 

Radio Host: No, the ratio is 3 to 1, isn’t it?

 

Caller 1:5 to 1.

 

Ernst Zundel: No, no.

 

Caller 1:4 to 1. Something around there.

 

Ernst Zundel: It’s now 32 cents per mark.

 

Caller 1: That’s now. So that’s now. The dollar has fallen. The Mark is up, is very strong.

 

Radio Host: Right. So there are three marks in the dollar, roughly.

 

Ernst Zundel: No more. There’s, …

 

Radio Host: Well, like in terms of 31 billion marks, you got your figure. $10 billion.

 

Ernst Zundel: Roughly. Yeah.

 

Radio Host: I mean, we’re being rough, but you know.

 

Caller 1: So you speak German? Maybe they told him in Germany he doesn’t understand!

 

Ernst Zundel: Very funny, very funny!

 

Radio Host: Well, anybody can look it up if they have Britannica.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, of course, you shouldn’t argue with [word unclear].

 

Radio Host: Anyway, this is curious. I’m looking up to find, you know, where I. Again, you see, there are cross indexes here and I have the United Nations roster to find out, you know, where to find West Germany. I can’t find them on the roster here.

 

Caller 1: Look for it on the Republic of West Germany.

 

Ernst Zundel: No no, West Germany is not a member of the United Nations.

 

Radio Host: I was coming to that conclusion and I was afraid to say so, but it appears it is not a member of the United Nations.

 

Caller 1: I wonder why?

 

Ernst Zundel: Germany wasn’t at the time considered to be fit to be part of member nation.

 

Radio Host: Well, well, well, there are 124 members. Neither Germany is here.

 

Ernst Zundel: No, neither will you find, I think South Korea and North Korea. Neither South Vietnam and North Vietnam.

 

Radio Host: That’s right. They’re not here.

 

Ernst Zundel: That’s right.

 

Caller 1: Let me go on. Can I go on for something that has a similar, two similar suggestions that are made that relate somehow to your suggestion, it’s a speculation as to whether what you do will have the desired effect. You know, Israel can pay out this two or $3 billion or whatever it happens to be, and it should go down the drain, down the Suez Canal and hear no more about it. And they should be just as violent.

 

So it would be a pretty dangerous thing for Israel to carry that out on your say so.

 

Let me ask something else now. It is suggested that Israel, in the case of this attack on Beirut, that as a matter of fact, the message came the Pope after he had been criticised for his first statement, he made another statement which wasn’t a very satisfactory either one. It sounded like he was saying:

 

“Well, you’re both wrong, so both stop fighting.”

 

It suggested that if the Israelis wouldn’t retaliate, which is what they’re being charged with, that the Salahi, that the Al Fatah and the terrorists would stop crossing the border.

 

Now, anyone who thinks that if the Israelis would not respond, then the people on the Jordanian side, the terrorists would stop, you know, must be out of his mind! What else can the Israelis do if they’re being shot at? They shoot back. You know, they were to stop in order to conform to what the Pope suggests and other very kind people are suggesting that they should stop escalating it. They’ll be run over!

 

Ernst Zundel: The jews have a law, a eye for a eye, a tooth for a tooth.

 

Caller 1: Oh, come on now!

 

The next thing you’re going to tell me, the next thing you’re going to tell me is that I belong to a tribe. You know, you sound like something out of the Middle Ages!

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, Life magazine has [word unclear] that.

 

Caller 1: I don’t care what Life magazine does! You know, what’s this “eye for an eye” business? That went out of fashion 2500 years ago!

 

Radio Host: Well, it’s back in vogue now because it’s interpreted by many as referring to transplants! [chuckling]

 

Caller 1: Israel is clear that the reason for their attack on the Beirut airport, and they made specific, they made very good, very good care that no one should be hurt, was to teach the Arab countries around there that the Israeli Airlines was not something that could be just thrown away. They had to show them it wasn’t an eye for an eye. It wasn’t revenge of any kind. It was to teach them that if they carried on the path that they were following that they would suffer for it! Which would make them stop. And this has been the reason for all the Israeli so-called retaliation. What they get is the time of peace. And usually it has happened. There has been hardly any fighting around this way because the Israelis hit back hard!

 

[50:39]

 

Ernst Zundel: Every news commentator that I have listened to from the United States, from Europe and the GDC, they all say that these terrorist organisations have succeeded in their primary aim and that is to make Israel overreact. Would you say Israel overreacted?

 

Caller 1: No, I wouldn’t. I don’t see how she could overreact. I don’t see how she could overreact by destroying 13 aeroplanes in exchange for human life. That’s not an overreaction.

 

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear]

 

Radio Host: How’s that?

 

Ernst Zundel: Everybody else seems to think so. Including [word unclear].

 

Caller 1: Now, tell me something. What difference does it make in a question of right and wrong what everybody else thinks?

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, first again there is your right and there is they are wrong and there is you’re wrong and they are right.

 

Radio Host: Okay, just before somebody calls up and correct us on it, let me correct it.

 

As far as the Deutsche marks is concerned, there are 3.988 per US dollar. Okay gentlemen. The last gentleman who is on the line. Are you satisfied with the point you made?

 

Caller 2: Yeah. I have one more point to make.

 

Radio Host: What is it, sir?

 

Caller 2: Have you ever heard of the flying carpet notion whereby about a million jews would [word unclear] all the Arab countries including Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt and Syria, were all thrown into Israel without a penny in their pockets and it was the Israeli government who undertook them, closed them, fed them and gave them jobs. They came into Israel without a penny in their pocket.

 

Radio Host: Right. Well, in terms of restitution or reparation, it has been suggested by our caller that these people be included.

 

Caller 2: Yes, but why they forgotten? When everybody talks about the Palestinian refugees, what about these people?

 

Radio Host: Well, as was suggested when I when mention it that it had not been mentioned before. It’s a suggestion from a staff member who was in the booth with me at the time.

 

Caller 1: Would the restitution come from the Arab government? They should be the ones responsible because that’s where they came from.

 

Caller 2: Exactly!

 

Caller 1: And can you imagine them doing it?

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, look, why don’t give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

Caller 1: Give whom the benefit of the doubt?

 

Ernst Zundel: The Arab government, put you on the spot.

 

Caller 1: Are you a journalist? Did you say you’re a journalist?

 

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I’m a journalist.

 

Caller 1: Why are you dreaming? Why are you having these dreams?

 

Ernst Zundel: You know something? I have to make a very basic point here.

 

Caller 1: Yes.

 

Ernst Zundel: You people. And this is so evidently so when you listen to these open lines. You are extremely sensitive! And you are always having such a perfect taste.

 

Caller 1: It has nothing to do with this! It has nothing to do with it!

 

Ernst Zundel: I’m a fan of Sherlock Holmes and of Perry Mason and you know about Perry Mason? Everybody that watches television, you know what Perry Mason does? He usually investigates the guy with the perfect alibi first.

 

Caller 1: Do you know something else? I’ve listened to you two evenings. I haven’t heard you say a good thing about the Israelis.

 

Ernst Zundel: I haven’t?

 

Caller 1: No.

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, my suggestion was that they should possibly pay restitution.

 

Caller 1: What kind of a good thing is this? This is the sort of a dream that has no relation to reality.

 

Caller 2: Can I bring in another point just for a second? It says here in the same yearbook, just a little bit smaller paragraph below, it says:

 

“A new series of terrorist attacks in border areas originating mainly in Jordan and Syria and later also in Lebanon, began during the year.”

 

Now, this is back in 65.

 

Caller 1: Of course, this is true. I was in Israel last spring. I was shooting a film there. And part of my filming was along the Lebanese border. There was an old synagogue about three miles from the border. Just about three hours after I had passed there and done my work, a mine was blown up. Now, this was way over, way over near the Western, near the Mediterranean Sea, just south of the Lebanese border.

 

Now, for any Jordanian or Syrian to have been able to go all the way from there east of the Jordan to plant that mine would have been impossible. This was a Lebanese mine. And there have been incidents from Lebanon time after time after time! The Israeli intelligence is excellent! As a matter of fact the Jordanians have just today hunt two spies, or they call them spies who are spying for Israel, if you can imagine that.

 

So the Israeli intelligence is pretty good. When they say that they know what’s going on inside Lebanon, I’m pretty sure that they know.

 

[54:56]

 

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, I agree with you.

 

Caller 1: Okay?

 

Ernst Zundel: That’s a good thing to say about Israel?

 

Caller 1: Well, you’re absolutely impossible! Here you have a country. You know, I feel, when I read my, I don’t understand it when I read my Bible, I feel embarrassed about something that the Israelites did 2,000 years ago. I say:

 

“Why should my people have behaved like that?”

 

You know, I’m not really guilty, but I feel sorry that they should have. That it shouldn’t be one of our traits. Here you have a people in the Middle East whose only existence., … Now, I’m not a Zionist, that’s why I’m saying this. Whose existence, Israel is due solely at this point in history. Who knows when they might have created, if at all! At this point in history, it’s due solely to the behaviour of your people! You see, and you have the gall, the chutzpah to come along on a public show and to make criticism of them, why they’re there they shouldn’t have been there in the first place or something else.

 

Ernst Zundel: Did I say that?

 

Caller 1: Well, you certainly suppose that from the way you talk.

 

Radio Host: Well, again, you see, the caller accused you of hearing what you want to hear before, and this is evidence of it. He never did say that.

 

Ernst Zundel: I would be perfectly happy to give you the Arab case. What they say:

 

“Why you shouldn’t be there, if you want to.”

 

Radio Host: Well, I don’t know if any of you are listening on my Saturday morning program. Late in the program, we did get someone who outlined it on Viewpoint Tonight. If any of you are watching, it was outlined again. There are three sides to this story. There’s the Israeli side, the Arab side, and the truth!

 

Caller 1: Well, of course, that doesn’t necessarily follow. It’s possible that one of the two sides is true.

 

Radio Host: Unfortunately, no. This is, it’s just like in the case of a divorce or anything else. There’s his side, there’s her side, and then there’s the truth!

 

Caller 1: That’s very clever. But in an actual situation where you have two antagonists, it’s very possible that one of the side is more right than the other.

 

Radio Host: According to whom, though? You see, according to the Israelis, they’re right. The Arabs are wrong. According to the Arabs, they’re right. The Israelis are wrong.

 

Now, I’m not saying to be objective. I do not believe anyone can be objective. And I don’t care who says that you can be objective in this case. All I say is that you should be fair!

 

This is why I am accused by Arabs of being anti-Arab and I’m accused by Israelis of being anti-Israeli.

 

Caller 1: That’s quite unfair to you because you have to be fair as a moderator and present both sides of the coin. I can understand the Arab point of view, although I think it’s wrong.

 

Radio Host: Yeah. But on this issue, I’m the only host of a programme on this station to my knowledge that is getting threats against my life and so on over this issue.

 

Caller 2: It won’t come from me. I think you’re pretty good.

 

Caller 1: What I was going to say is this. If you take the Israeli and the Arab position, the Israelis have nowhere else to go. There’s some suggestion made that on the part of so-called anti-zionist and some Arab books I’ve read and articles that the European jews. Let me state now several things here, that the European jews who are now in Israel who came from Eastern Europe should go back since they’re not Mediterranean, but they’re probably descended from the Khazari who were a Turkish people in the Crimea 1300 years ago. That they’re really Europeans, blue eyed, blonde, so they shouldn’t be in Israel at all! You can well imagine this kind of a suggestion that Ben Gurion, who was born in Russia, that the Russians would let him back into Russia.

 

In other words, he’s going to stay there. Certainly the Israeli disciples who were born there are going to stay there.

 

And can you imagine the Yemenites who were born in [word unclear] to go back there? And the Egyptians to go back to Egypt? So it’s not very likely to happen.

 

Ernst Zundel: May I just come in here?

 

Caller 1: Let me just finish that. So the Israelis, when they say they are going to stay, they’re going to stay.

 

That’s one side of the coin. You can believe that’s their point of view and I can see their point of view and I don’t see how anyone else can. I mean, what’s wrong with that point of view?

 

But then you get the Arab side of it which says they’re going to drive them into the sea, get rid of them! Can that be correct as well? How can it?

 

Ernst Zundel: Well, can I come into the point here?

 

Caller 1: Yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: According to The Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 4, Pages 1 to 5, it deals with what you just outlined, the Khazars.

 

Caller 1: The Khazaris, yeah.

 

Ernst Zundel: Right. And it says in there:

 

“That the Khazar Empire, it was founded by Asiatic Mongol people in the first year after the birth of Christ and existed till about the 14th century.”

 

As you said. But it had its peak in the seventh and eighth century. These people were heathen and they’re converted to Judaism.

 

Caller 1: That’s true. Okay, so what’s that got to do with the Israelis right now? And the Mediterranean in 1969.

 

Ernst Zundel: This is on which much of the Arab argument is based on. If you had heard the UN debate.

 

Caller 1: Yeah, but you see, you’ve got to start from where you are. You can’t start from where you were 500 years ago. The Israelis are now. What is going to happen to Ben Gurion, for example? Would he go back to Russia?

 

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Ernst Zundel: No, no. May I make a point here, a philosophic point, if I may?

 

Caller 1: Yeah. Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: So the Arabs and [word unclear] that was speaking at the United Nations, he was horrified over CBC at the time of the Arab-Israeli war. He said precisely that.

 

In other words, he said:

 

“The Khazars were converted to Judaism or what was called then Talmudism.”

 

And like, …

 

Caller 1: Watch, watch it. What’s Talmudism? There’s no such thing. Just stick to what you know.

 

Ernst Zundel: Look, I’m quoting the Jewish Encyclopedia, volume 4 pages one to five, …

 

Caller 1: Talmudism? Okay.

 

Ernst Zundel: In the seventh century, Judaism. It wasn’t called Judaism. It was called Talmudism.

 

Caller 1: Oh, come on! I don’t know who wrote that, but this is all nonsense!

 

Radio Host: All right. Who wrote the Jewish Encyclopedia?

 

Ernst Zundel: I suppose a couple of anti-semites!

 

Radio Host: [chuckling]

 

Caller 1: So what? They disappeared. They disappeared in the 14th century. What’s that got to do with the German jews?

 

Ernst Zundel: They didn’t disappear. That’s precisely the point!

 

Caller 1: Of course they became Christians. They were absorbed into the Russian Empire.

 

Ernst Zundel: They didn’t become Christians.

 

Caller 1: Where are they?

 

Ernst Zundel: They were spread all over the Soviet Union, all over the Balkans. And this is why you have such a big amount of Eastern European jews. They are called the Khazars. And do you know, difference between the Sephardic and Ashkenazis?

 

Caller 1: The Khazars, …

 

Ernst Zundel: The total percent, the [word unclear] state. And the Jewish Encyclopedia has a map in the book. 80% of the world’s jewish population today are Khazars. In other words, they are converted!

 

Caller 1: What are you talking about?

 

Ernst Zundel: Precisely. That’s what the Arabs are saying.

 

Therefore. Just a minute now. Look, this is the argument. You have to look at their argument and you have to look at your argument and then we can arrive at something. That’s why the Arabs say that, …

 

Caller 1: Well, the Arabs don’t know what they’re talking about and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Because, … Let’s forget about it. Let’s forget about it!

 

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Scott Ritter: First of all, let me get the smile off my face. I’m smiling because of the failure of the Israeli enterprise and everything that Israel stands for. It’s a glorious moment! I used to love Israel, traveled there frequently, love the Israeli people. I don’t anymore! I actually am at the point where I no longer sympathize for them or empathize.

 

Israel is a force of evil and it cannot exist. It’s literally a cancer in the Middle East. And if it continues to exist, it will destroy the entire edifice. That’s not anti-semitic, it’s not anti-jewish, it’s anti-Israel! The concept of a Greater Israel.

 

So when Israel has for the last several, … Remember, Hezbollah only exists because Israel invaded southern Lebanon in 1982. It’s a resistance organization. It exists to resist Israel. Israel still occupies parts of southern Lebanon, the Sheba farms. I know Israel will put forward some nonsense about it belongs to Syria. And they have documents. It’s Lebanon! Israel knows it’s Lebanon.

 

And so Hezbollah continues to exist. Israel has tried to isolate Hezbollah as just a militia, an illegal armed group that needs to be done away with. Hezbollah, on the other hand, has become a political party that has become part of the Lebanese government. A major part of the Lebanese government, very successful. And Hezbollah is well thought of I mean, there’s a lot of corruption in Lebanon. A lot of political parties don’t have the trust and confidence of the Lebanese people. It says something when Hezbollah does have the trust and confidence, even amongst those segments of society, the Christians, in particular, the Sunnis, that might otherwise be inclined to be opposed to Hezbollah because of sectarian reasons. Hezbollah has become synonymous with Lebanon.

 

And so when Israel now says they want to destroy Hezbollah, Lebanon realizes what Israel is saying is:

 

“We are going to destroy Lebanon!”

 

And Lebanon has made a decision that it’s not going to go gently into that good night. That they will fight side by side with Hezbollah.

 

That’s why I smiled, because I love it when evil is defeated! And this is the defeat of evil! Israel is an evil institution. There’s nothing good that comes out of Israel. It stands for nothing positive. It’s an illegal occupation regime that has brought death and destruction to the region.

 

The only good that’s come out of Israel is the good that it does for itself! The self promotion of a perversion of the jewish cause through Zionistic institutions that have nothing to do with promoting Judaism, everything to do with opposing or oppressing the indigenous Arab population of the region, the Palestinian people.

 

Gaza is just a horrific tragedy! On a daily basis, we’re reminded of the evil that Israel does and what it’s doing. And by extension, again, when I say “evil”, understand that because Israel is literally an extension of America, this is the evil of America as well. Sorry to say that to my fellow citizens. But if we promote Israel, we promote zionism, we’re promoting evil! And therefore we are evil ourselves!

 

And it’s a disease that’s infected everybody. It’s infected the Republican Party, it’s infected Democratic Party, it’s infected MAGA, it’s infected independents.

 

I mean, we have a handful of people, Jill Stein, Cornel West, who have articulated, … But they’re in a distinct minority in the United States. The majority of Americans tend to support what’s going on. They support the continued existence of Israel without understanding or able to articulate what Israel is.

 

Yes, we’re horrified by the imagery that comes out of Gaza. But when you support Israel, you then support the notion that the Israelis are a superior race, a superior people, that the Palestinians are somehow inherently inferior. And now you’re buying into the notion of “human animals”, which is what Israel uses to describe the Palestinian people. Human animals!

 

And when they’re human animals, I mean, yes, I cry when I take, … I mean, my God! I don’t want to look at cows being butchered, but I damn still go to McDonald’s and eat their damn burgers. I’ll still buy a steak! You know, I just pretend the evil doesn’t exist!

 

And at the end of the day, I mollify myself by saying:

 

“They’re just cows. That’s God’s greater plan. They’re put on earth to feed me.”

 

In the second you stop viewing the Palestinians as anything other than humans with the same rights as everybody else, you’re literally relegating them to be cows, to be slaughtered. To be slaughtered! And that’s what’s happening. This is pure butchery! I mean, Gaza has become the butcher shop!

 

When you see what they’ve done to those children, not just the death of the children, but the physical mutilation of their bodies, the slaughter of entire families, and the fact that it continues on a daily basis on the scope and scale that it does, shows a gross indifference to human life, not just by Israel. I’ve already categorized it as evil. They are evil! Israel must be annihilated, eliminated as a nation state. It has no right to exist! It’s lost that right if it ever had. It lost it a long time ago.

 

But the American people, we let Nikki Haley, go and sign artillery shells, encouraging the Israelis to finish the job. That’s like telling Adolf Hitler, fire up the crematoriums. Finish the job! Get the trains running faster, baby. Finish the job! [Ritter’s boomer tier standard official understanding of WWII!] Telling Andrew Jackson:

 

“Don’t let them go on the Trail of Tears, man! Kill them all! Don’t let them go to Oklahoma. Wipe them all out, baby! We don’t need those American-Indians. They’re not humans! They’re animals. Human animals. Human animals!”

 

[06:44]

 

And that’s what the Palestinians have become in the minds of everybody, because we’re just simply watching the slaughter of an entire people!

 

Now, this is where it gets controversial, and I get in a lot of trouble when I say this, but it’s a necessary slaughter. And I don’t mean that because I view them as human animals. I view them as martyrs, as people who, had this conflict not taking place the way it has wouldn’t achieve the potential outcome that appears to be on the horizon, the actual formation of a Palestinian homeland, a Palestinian state!

 

It was never going to come free. It was never going to come easy. There was always going to be a horrific cost because you can’t have a Palestinian state and a Zionist Israeli entity peacefully coexisting. It’s impossible! A two-state solution is impossible! Especially now. It’s impossible! Israel is incompatible with the vision of a Palestinian state. So Israel must be eradicated, eliminated, removed.

 

And that can’t happen without dramatic transformations of opinions, political, just tectonic shifting of political emphasis. And that can’t happen unless the entire world was shocked! Shocked by Israeli atrocities!

 

You can’t prove the point of Israel being a genocidal state unless Israel commits genocide, actual genocide. And this is the genius of Hamas.

 

I know I’m going to get in trouble for saying this, but, I mean, Charles de Gaulle signed off on the D-Day landings knowing that tens of thousands, perhaps even more than 100,000 French would die as a result. Because you can’t liberate France from Nazi occupation without a military conflict that takes out the trains, takes out the potential deploying areas. And civilians lived there, and the civilians were going to be killed in large numbers. And de Gaulle signed off on it. Is he evil? No! It’s just the reality that he had to operate in.

 

But this is why de Gaulle never celebrated the D-Day anniversary. Because to him, it wasn’t about the liberation of France. To him, it was him signing off on the death of the French people he was supposed to protect.

 

Hamas knew what it was doing on October 7 [2023]. I’ve called it the greatest military operation in modernization history, the greatest raid in modern history. War is an extension of politics by other means, meaning that what they initiate on October 7 was far more than just a successful military operation. It started in motion these tragic events that will culminate in the creation of a Palestinian state. Without October 7, we wouldn’t be talking about the creation of a Palestinian state. Not in a viable way. Not in a way that has the world resonating, you know, reflective of this. Without the sacrifice of the Palestinian people, we wouldn’t be talking about this.

 

If Israel had launched a bloodless campaign, a punitive campaign that simply focused on Hamas, the world wouldn’t be acting the way they did, but Israel is incapable of doing that! And that’s the genius of Hamas, because they knew exactly what Israel was going to do they anticipated it, every aspect of it.

 

Hamas knows Israel. Sinmar knows the Israelis. He was in their damn prison camps. He knows how they think. He knows by capturing these hostages, these prisoners of war, and bringing back in what it would do to Israeli society to create fractures within Israel, to get Israelis to attack Israelis. He understood that the Israeli army was incapable of managing a conflict as complex as what they faced in Gaza, fighting a war on above ground and below ground at the same time. They can’t do it. And he knew that Israel didn’t have the capacity to absorb the damage that was being inflicted on it long term by Hamas.

 

Israel today admits it’s running out of tanks. Israel’s running out of tanks! Why? Because Hamas is destroying and damaging them. Hamas understood this. They have the plan, the wherewithal, the sustainability factor. Israel is running out of spare parts. Israel’s running out of men that are willing to fight. Israel has been strategically defeated by Hamas. And this is the precondition for the path towards a Palestinian state.

 

Now, understand this path will be convoluted. It’s going to be complicated. It’s not going to be easy. It may start out as a two-state solution. I personally believe it will be.

 

But I think Hamas is smart enough to know that they have created fatal damage to Israel, that a two-state solution is predicated upon A, a viable Palestinian state, and B, a viable Israeli state. There is no such thing as a viable Israeli state anymore.

 

One, economically, Israel can’t survive. You can thank Ansarallah for that, the Houthis, Yemen. They’ve launched the greatest military economic blockade against the state that’s ever been undertaken. Because it worked! They’re not able to run this blockade. The US Navy was defeated by the Houthis! Defeated because they can’t stop it! They’re still hitting ships. Southern port of Israel non-functioning, bankruptcy!

 

Israel itself is a bankrupt nation. The economy is failing, will never recover. And if the economy doesn’t recover, then the land of milk and honey doesn’t exist. That’s the only damn thing that brought the Zionists., … And understand, the Zionists aren’t religious. They’re not religious! They’re there to steal the land of the Palestinians and live in prosperity on land they didn’t own, land they stole. They’re living there.

 

If you don’t have an Israel where people can wake up in the morning and have a barbecue and then go to the beach and do all the stuff that secular people do, because it’s not a religious state. They have religious people there. But that’s not what Israel is about. It’s about living comfortably off of the labor and the land that you stole from others. That’s the whole premise of Israel. That’s it! That’s it!

 

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And when you remove that, when they’re going to live under the perpetual fear of retaliation, if Israel tries to flex its muscles again, people flee. We’ve seen a half a million flee already. Israel’s a small state with 9 million now. What happens when 4 million flee? What happens when 7 million flee? What happens when nobody wants to live in Israel anymore? Because the Zionist dream is over.

 

And, you know what else is going to break in order to get that two-state solution? This is why I encourage people out there. Don’t be against the two-state solution, because it’s a suicide pill for Israel. The two-state solution will require Israel to undo the West Bank settlements, the outright thievery that’s taken place, to begin dismantling that.

 

And then they break the back of the Brooklyn jews. That’s one of the great sinners of evil, in Israel today, the Brooklyn jews. American jews who went over there and stole the land of the Palestinians, because they can! Because zionism empowers them to do that. Break the back of the Brooklyn jews, send them back to Brooklyn.

 

And when you do that, Israel will fall in amongst itself. There will be a quasi civil war. There will be minimum civil unrest. Israel will devolve societally, and more Israelis will flee.

 

And at some point in time, the Palestinian state won’t have to do any work, because Israel will cease to exist and the Palestinian state will expand. And now you have a singular entity. Where if the Palestinians are smart, they allow jews to live side by side in peace. There’s no revenge. You can have a reconciliation committee if you want to. But the bottom line is, let Christians and jews thrive. That’s the future of Palestine.

 

And that’s a future that now is conceivable because of what Hamas did. Israel defeated itself, and it’s a good thing!

 

I would also tell the American people, look at what happened to Israel. Look what happens when you have a society that’s defined by conflict, society that can only exist by oppressing others. That’s America. That’s how we interface with the world. That’s our future. If we don’t change our ways. Because Israel is America! Zionism is American hegemony under a different name! The same underlying principles, where we treat the world as our oyster, where the people that live in the world are pawns to be moved around. They’re not human. They’re not us, they’re not American. American exceptionalism posits the notion that Americans are above everybody else. We’re the indispensable people. We’re the indispensable nation.

 

Therefore, by definition, everybody else is dispensable! Human animals! That can be eliminated, manipulated, destroyed, killed at will, as long as it benefits the American enterprise. We are the living personification of zionism. Just using different terms, Manifest Destiny. There’s no difference between Manifest Destiny and the Zionist principles. We take what isn’t ours by force because God wills it.

 

That’s where we are today. If we don’t change our way as Americans, how we interface with the world, inevitably our outcome will be that of what is Israel’s inevitable outcome.they’re gone!

 

Interviewer: With the current face of their army, Scott, with the current situation, as you’ve mentioned, of their army, if they go to Lebanon, to southern Lebanon, what do they face against Hezbollah?

 

Scott Ritter: Death and destruction! Hezbollah is going to wipe them off the planet. Looks it’d be a bad fight. Again, we talked earlier about the Russians and Ukrainians. Just because Russia is winning doesn’t mean that Ukraine can’t do harm to Russia. Of course Ukraine can just because I say that Hezbollah is going to win doesn’t mean that Israel isn’t going to do great harm to Hezbollah and Lebanon. Israel will, of course.

 

But this is an existential fight. It’s a fight that Israel will initiate with the understanding that it is all or nothing. And therefore, Hezbollah, and now Lebanon has to respond with the same way. It’s a war of attrition where both sides are going to be trying to achieve attritional supremacy. That’s the equivalent of firepower supremacy, in standard combat.

 

If you and I are fighting, you got 15 guys. I got 15 guys. And we start opening fire on each other. In theory, if we both stand our ground and have well aimed fire, we’ll kill each other, all right? But human nature kicks in at some point in time, and one of us is going to blink first. One of us is going to say:

 

“I’m going down. I want to live!”

 

The second they do that, you’re no longer threatening me with death, and now I own you. I’ve got fire-fighter superiority over you’re suppressed! If I can suppress all of you, I get fire firepower supremacy. That means now that I can dictate maneuver and outcomes.

 

So Israel and Hezbollah are going to start off by pounding each other with everything they have. There will be no limits in the initial phases. There’s going to be death and destruction like you’ve never seen before. Awful, horrible! And then what will happen is somebody’s going to blink. Israel is going to blink because Hezbollah isn’t going to let the fight take place south of the Letani river. Hezbollah is going to take the fight into northern Israel, into the Galilee. Israel will be called upon to deliver death and destruction to Israeli towns, to Israeli villages, to kill Israeli people. It’ll be the Hannibal directive writ large, which Israel can’t politically sustain. So Israel will blink. Hezbollah won’t blink.

 

Hezbollah can’t blink now because they have the support of all the Lebanese people. Hezbollah doesn’t have to worry about the political consequences because the Lebanese people understand what’s at stake here. So Hezbollah will then have achieved firepower superiority, and then they will continue to suppress, inflict harm. Israel will not be able to respond effectively once its airfields are suppressed. That means more firepower could be brought there. The Iron Dome will be eliminated or depleted. More firepower with more precision, and Israel will rapidly devolve, and it’ll be the physical destruction of Israel. That’s what Israel will get if it goes to war against Hezbollah. It’s simple military math.

 

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In the lead up to the Gulf war in October 1990, I was put in charge of a war game cell at the warfighting center in Quantico [Virginia]. Major General Caulfield ran it. And my job was to run scenarios for the Marine attack against the Iraqi defensive lines. Schwarzkopf had the Marines attacking a certain sector, and General Boomer, Walt Boomer, wasn’t happy, and so he went to Caulfield and said:

 

“Could you help us find the right place to attack?”

 

This required me to build a computer model of the Iraqi defenses, populate it, then run simulations of the Marines attacking. And you do that by, you have to get down into the brass tacks, morale factors, ammunition depletion, communications capabilities, et cetera. And you run the model.

 

And I ran that model nonstop from October until early December, trying to come up with the best location and the best forces. And, yes, it’s computerized, but after you do it, after a while, your brain starts to work like the computer, and you start to be able to predict outcomes. You can sit there and say:

 

“Huh, if we get it to this, that and the other thing, this is probably what’s going to happen, because I’ve seen what has happened in the past.”

 

And so my brain’s been conditioned to plug in a whole bunch of military factors and just sit there and blink it through and go:

 

“Yeah, I see the correlation of forces, I see the attritional factors, and I see what’s likely to happen.”

 

Now, there’s a human factor that’s impossible to quantify, and it’s always a reality there. But you offset that by focusing on things that will have an impact on human, like Command and Control. Communication is important. If you block communications, you can’t Command And Control. That inevitably leads to a deterioration of combat capacity.

 

And that’s what I’ve done with Israel and Hezbollah. So if people are out there going:

 

“How can you possibly, .?”

 

I’m just telling you guys right now that I have actually spent many hours laying out the force structures. I’ve populated it with data that is weighted to take into account experience, logistics, Command and Control, etcetera.

 

And when I run that computer model in my head, Hezbollah wins every single time. But here’s the other thing that people, you know, that I should tell people. Israel ran two consecutive exercises in 2022 and, 2023, where they tested a similar conflict notion.

 

Basically, it was:

 

“What if everybody attacks Israel at once?”

 

But the main theater of operations for Israel was in northern Israel, southern Lebanon, against Hezbollah. Israel lost every time. Israelis know it, too. If you’re being honest, you can’t fake the data. And the data has Israel losing every single time!

 

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5 days ago

Harry Vox — Unsafe Space
Jewboy is really busy downvoting this one. Nice try Jewboy. Its not gonna work anymore. No one except you rats care about your bullshit narratives any more and we’re fed up with your genocide. Hitler was way way too nice.
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Nellykirk
Yep, i have even seen my likes disappear before my eyes.
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Parkersburg1962
Well friend I’m not a Jew boy but Scott Ritter is not someone I trust. Convicted of pedophilia, attachments to the CIA, and a “former UN weapons inspector” are three groups of people that I don’t trust.
And if your’re hard of hearing, he’s all three
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USAmakeAntarctica
Would you have thought they were “taking it too far” and making a “mistake” when they started these (endless) wars, stirred up (countless) revolutions, poisoned the wells, starved millions, murdered tens of millions (here, there, everywhere — again and again), or when they crucified Christ? You almost certainly would have, and you would have been wrong every single time.
Need I remind you that they have been going BIG and making HUGE “mistakes” all throughout history? Have they (really) ever been (properly) punished?
They haven’t even been stopped and have only “suffered” a delay (when it comes to mass murdering us) a few times (AFTER the damage was already done).
History is basically a series of jewish “mistakes” (where they have mass murdered us) with little more than temporary pauses in their plan. [show less]
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THWLParkersburg1962
All valid. Ritter is a voice, a different view than most because of his access to information.
That does not make him or someone “trustworthy.”
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AllOtherNamesUsedParkersburg1962
Russia and US are both controlled by you know whos, used to divide and conquer the world until the false messiah arises and takes his seat in the new temple in Mystery Babylon Jerusalem.
You can see Putin visiting the wailing wall years back and said he was praying for a new temple as reported in Israeli press. The info is posted in this blog post:
https://openthematrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/13/list-of-revelation-prophecies-for-today/ [show less]
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AuntySeaMiteParkersburg1962
Convicted of pedophilia because he speaks out about the Jews. This is how Jews get back at people who don’t toe the Jewish line. Dosen’t take a brain surgeon to work that out.
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Parkersburg1962AuntySeaMite
Okey-dokey, however you want to put it together in your head. That was all some time ago. And it’s all staged, this “persecution” hey, it worked for Trump… now they have Ritter and they’re even following Tulsie Gabbard around-wink wink-now everybody better be afraid and (support these people while you’re at it) Two birds with one stone
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Ralph Malph
Most of Israel’s Jews are not even “semitic”.
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AuntySeaMite
All Jews are evil whether Ashkenazi, Hasidic or Sephardic. I wonder why Scott believes the Holohoax story?
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Hitler ?! … that man fought with all his heart against Jewish communism and the Jew World Order !
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Pure_Heart
The word “Jew” is nowhere in the original Scriptures: https://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/new_religion1.htm
The Solutions to the Coming Trouble: https://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jews/whats_happening.htm
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Pure_Heart
“In order to rule the world through a One World Government, the Jews had to position themselves at the central crossroads of the world. That required changing the Bible! Even though God gives a death sentence to anyone who does that, it was not intimidating to the Jews, who don’t believe in the God of the Bible anyway,” p 705, Ch 78 The Deliberate Destruction of America and the World — Who’s Doing It and Why? by Lorraine Day MD — goodnewsaboutgod.c see also: Who Rewrote the Bible? How and Why the Translators Have Deceived the Whole World by Deliberately Changing the Truth of the Bible — same author. [show less]
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DanielDresden
Financial extortion is real, diurnally repleted by the rumors of war inside our heads.
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Age of Irony
“As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.”
Yahweh- speaking to Moses in Deuteronomy 20:10-14. The God of Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed, ordered the use of Gentile children as “spoils”.
Perhaps this is why the Talmud, rabbinical commentary on the Old Testament (Torah) sanctifies child rape.
What kind of God gives commands for murder, rape and slavery?
Why can’t people understand that worshiping and praying to such a god, is bound to have negative effects?
Ritter mentioned the Manifest Destiny policy held by the Americans that ordered the slaughter & dislocation of the native people. Manifest Destiny derived from biblical themes of a chosen people and a promised land, as expressions of a covenantal relationship with Yahweh, the Hebrew god.
And people wonder how did the Jews ever grab so much power in the West. Christians gave it to them, that’s how.
Let us please remember our European ancestors that were also brutalized by the Abraham religion. Christianity brought in 900 years of the Dark Ages and feudalism to Europe. We didn’t need to read nor write because we had Jew god religion instead.
Our ancestors that dissented, were arrested, tortured, and burned alive in front of the entire community on the public square, their properties confiscated for the church. Was it any wonder that a people, conquered in Abraham religion would spread their bible beliefs in the lands on which they landed? [show less]
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Professor John Mearshimer, a respected scholar of international relations, who has been a professor of political science since 1982 at the University of Chicago, and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government, wrote the 2006 article, “The Israel Lobby,” one of the most controversial articles ever published in academic circles.. Originally published in the London Review of Books in March 2006, it provoked both howls of outrage and cheers of gratitude for challenging what had been a taboo issue in America: the impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy.
I first learned of Dr. Mearshimer’s work after he joined alliances with Allison Weir, a writer known for her interest in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and the founder and executive director of the nonprofit organization If Americans Knew (IAK), president of the Council for the National Interest (CNI), and author of Against Our Better Judgment: The Hidden History of How the U.S. Was Used to Create Israel.If Americans Knew, (website) https://ifamericansknew.org/
Last week, Mearshimer made a public statement regarding the future of Israel. He warned that Israel is in “deep trouble” after assasinating the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau, Isamael Hanniyeh.With no military solutions to external threats, internal chaos threatening civil war, & crippling dependence on US support, their problems are “unfixable & they’re digging deeper.”
https://x.com/SinaToossi/status/1820083945674871119?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1820083945674871119%7Ctwgr%5Eb10d2d8f6b425133dd9256f6f007684643b14375%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fgeopolitical%2Firan-says-it-must-punish-israel-wont-be-dissuaded-biden-hold-situation-room-meeting [show less]
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Deepstate Want Civil War

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THWL
Hitler did not fire up any crematoriums you fucking imbecile. Read some David Irving, stop believing in HOLLYWOOD.
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THWL
The Israel corporation created before WW1, was designed by bankers. All wars are bankers wars.
This immoral “nation” forced itself upon innocent peoples in 1948.
The people in Israel are brainwashed. They have ruined 20 million innocent lives of the Palestinian peoples. I have no mercy for the Israel corporation, nor Washington DC corporation, nor any government, politician, financially rich person, organization, pharma pusher, or those who make a living on TV. ZERO. [show less]
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What normies think fighting tyranny looks like vs. what fighting tyranny actually looks like: https://old.bitchute.com/video/aKMrUsMdZ9zw/
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Gjem
America is becoming the next Palestine ,all our mthf politicians are the bitches working for the Jews to make America the Jewmerica and 99% of them are non Jews
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THWL
I agree and can see that. I do hope you will look into how much of Washington DC and its department heads are jewish. It is about half of that sick corporation. And the White/Euro man who works for jew bankers/governance is traitor.
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GjemTHWL
100% true , and you know how Jews got this bitches by the balls , before they got elected invite them one by one in different places different days in some private party’s then offer a drink then little by little they got drunk or sometimes they go faster they put something in their drink and they send them to e special hotel [show more]
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Mutilator (Mute me Harder) of Thirst
Yeah, cuz Israel is just perverting the Judaistic cause, people…
I’ll see myself out….
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AwakenedGiant
“The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine” — Book — By Ilan Pappe — The VERY BEST BOOK explaining the Israeli/Palestinian conflict!
From the book’s back cover:
The 1948 Israeli War of Independence involved one of the largest forced migrations in modern history. Around a million people were expelled from their homes at gunpoint, civilians were massacred, and hundreds of Palestinian villages destroyed. Denied for almost six decades, had it happened today it would only have been called “ethnic cleansing.”
In this groundbreaking book, renowned Israeli historian Ilan Pappe offers impressive archival evidence to demonstrate that, from its very inception, a central plan in Israel’s founding ideology was the forcible removal of the indigenous population, a strategy that continues to the present day. Dr. Pappe’s vivid and timely account sheds new light on the origins and development of the Palestine-Israel conflict, and is indispensable for anyone interested in the Middle East.
The State of Israel loves to play the role of victim on the world stage, but the truth is, since WW II, Israel has been one of the most murderous aggressor/terror states in the world. Had any other nation on earth committed the atrocities you will find documented in this book, the entire world — especially the United States — would hold it up to global condemnation. But you have likely read or heard absolutely nothing about it. The truth of Israel’s bloody conquest of Palestine has even been hidden from the people of Israel themselves.
Evangelical Christians who are enamored with the modern State of Israel, believing it to be a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, need to take a close, hard look at the brutal history of the Zionist state. Reading this book is the best place to begin.
313 pages
THIS BOOK IS TOO GOOD TO NOT READ!
.https://libertyfellowshipmt.com/Store.aspx#!/The-Ethnic-Cleansing-Of-Palestine-Book-By-Ilan-Pappe-The-VERY-BEST-BOOK-explaining-the-Israeli-Palestinian-conflict-BACK-IN-STOCK/p/236715938/category=15986016 [show less]
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NorthernHillbilly
he gets it but can’t see the 2nd world war lie
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THWL
He has been indoctrinated, brainwashed by Washington DC/CIA/BANKERS and cannot fully get out of his head/mind.
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Micovwar
As an englishman I am convinced the British ZOG regime will jail me
because of my hatred of ZOG Israel & the globalist western filth..a price I must pay
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Hiker
Try not to make it easy for them!
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MicovwarHiker
Yep..It seems they have already started busting down doors on native whites after their ZOG staged riots in recent weeks,The raft of OTT measures by Strmer & his cult were simply waiting for the right engineered crises
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Foolmeonce321
A Jew is a Jew..
Evil and ugly!
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ricck@lineheart
And will never change…
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TommyMcvee
If you pay attention to the Simpsons , written by a 33 degree free mason Matt Groenig ., they tell you who is really in charge. Or do you really think they can predict the future.
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Chromatura
The Simpsons is 35-year CIA psy-op
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Dwafm-Dwafm
A Trillion Problems for Russia.
Russia seems to be at War with Israel and not even Russia notices.
Could Israel be the Mastermind Behind Russia’s War in Ukraine?
Russia is not at war with Ukraine, the USA, or the UK as countries nor with NATO or the EU as organizations. Instead, it is at war with Israel, a country that has been strategically manipulating global events to its advantage for decades and most importantly, its been doing it from behind a veil of obscurity using US / UK / NATO / EU etc as 4th party proxy agents to 3rd party actors such as Ukraine’s Zelensky etc. Let’s shed some light on Israel’s involvement in creating all these wars around the world.
Israel’s Control Over Powerful Organizations:
Israel exerts considerable influence over key political entities, such as AIPAC, which has been instrumental in controlling the US Senate in Washington DC. Additionally, Israel’s dominance extends to the Banking Powers in the City of London directly connected to powerful banking families such as the Rothschilds whom with their Balfour Declaration, were instrumental in the creation of Israel in the first place. They control the UK money and so they control the UK politicians directing foreign policies such as supporting the current war of distraction in Ukraine — against Russia.
The Greater Israel Project:
Israel has long sought to expand its territorial reach by overthrowing its neighbors, including Syria, Iraq, and Iran. By manipulating regional conflicts and destabilizing countries, Israel aims to create a “Greater Israel” project, which would extend its borders far beyond the current state’s boundaries.
Israel’s US War Strategy:
In 2004, General Wesley Clark revealed from the Pentagon that the USA had planned to invade and overthrow seven Middle Eastern countries with in 5years. This war strategy included Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Israel controlled Washington, which played a crucial role in executing this plan.
Israel’s ISIS:
Israel used the US invasion of Iraq to implement its agenda for the Middle East. It socially engineered the rise of ISIS in Iraq and sent them to Syria as a tool to overthrow Assad. Russia stepped in and successfully destroyed ISIS, effectively undermining Israel’s plans for Syria and all the while invalidating any justification for having US presence in the region — despite it already being illigal.
So why Ukraine?
Understanding that Russia poses a threat to Israel’s Middle East ambitions, Israel sent Victoria Nuland & Co. (Israeli Darlings) into Ukraine to kick Viktor Yanukovych out and provoke a paralyzing war with Russia. This strategic move aimed to tie up all Russian forces and prevent them from being capable or even interested in supporting, Palestine, Lebanon, Iran or Syria — again.
Lets face it, Israel has been orchestrating conflicts and wars around the world for decades, using powerful organizations and countries as pawns in its quest for regional dominance. Russia’s current challenges in Ukraine can be traced back to Israel’s manipulations, which aim to distract Moscow from supporting its allies in the Middle East, while Blackrock’s Larry Fink (Israeli Darling) massively profits from Wheat Market manipulations off the backs of a disrupted agricultural economic activity of Ukraine as well as from all the Western Defense Contractor’s soaring Profits.
By exposing Israel’s role in creating global conflicts, we can begin to understand the true nature of the wars that have plagued our world for years and in particular the “So-Called-War” in Ukraine — and how it all was pretty much kick started by the False Flag attack on Larry Silverstein’s (Israeli Darling) WTC Twin Towers in NY City on 9/11.
End of the day, it seems Israel is behind everything.
They have literally been given Trillions of Dollars for free.
Because that’s what it takes.
Trillions. [show less]
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THWL
I find it hard to believe Russia had any ambition to destroy Ukraine or its people. I could be wrong. All wars are bankers wars, and this could be Israel using the Russian military to clear land for the EXPANSION of Israel, or gives them a way out of the land of Palestine. Possible.
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Doonard
Overton Window has still long way to shift. American observing analytics can not wrap their head around General Patton’s quote: “We fought the wrong enemy!”. P.S. It is possible that to say : “We, the americans kicked the wrong ass on D-Day. We supported the mass democide of the many good people then, like we do today in Gaza” would be just like having gunfight standing upright — suicidal.
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Klaymore
Before all this comes to its conclusion the U.S. Govt-ZOG- and the Israeli Jews will emotionally extort the entire world with the threats of Thermal Nuclear War. A psychopath has to do what a psychopath has to do. You see, it all about being exceptional and indispensable by the dispensational.
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JAB777
So much of the Bible “may “have been rewritten from 100AD to 300 AD and also factor that the Catholic Church has never been Christian but is Satan’s also …..that how can you put much credence into it ….Paul of the Bible was A Fake apostle with an agenda of serving the Romans too , the actual Apostles couldn’t stand Paul and didnt trust him …..Luke was A Doctor and acted as Paul’s scribe !
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Paul was an eyewitness to Christs resurrection. Therefore he was as genuine an Apostle as the twelve. He laboured harder than the other twelve put together. God used him to pen the bulk of the New Testament. He was martyred BY the Romans( under Nero)…Paul’s only ‘agenda’ was to glorify God through the proclamation of the Gospel. [show more]
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Nellykirk
So what proof do you have that Paul was a false apostle ?
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JAB777Nellykirk
he has been exposed by current Bible Scholars ..his story of being struck down on the road to Damascus changes from the beginning of the book of Acts till later in the book ….if God / Jesus wanted Paul to be an Apostle , don’t you think that he would of taken Judas’s spot instead of Mathias was it …No , Paul self anointed himself to be an Apostle and hijacked the early Christian movement and made it his own ….James and Peter couldn’t stand Paul and this “Stephen “character may have actually been James , the brother of Jesus , that was the chief Priest then that was thrown down from the Temple steps and then stoned to Death ….Paul took part in this ! ….Paul was A double agent of sorts , so even the first 3 gospels may be in question , particularly the prophecies is my point …. John’s Gospel doesn’t have in it what is written in Matthew 24 , Mark 13 and Luke 21 …. just saying [show less]
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JAB777gunter73
how do you know that he was “martyred “…they’ve changed A lot of history , for history was written by the victors
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Nellykirk
So basically no proof then, just a bunch of gossip as i thought.
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JAB777Nellykirk
the early Catholic church not only translated the books of the Bible from the original Greek and Hebrew mostly to Latin ( so nobody could read it except those with A Latin education ) , they decided which books to be included and not included ! …in this translation , how do you know or don’t know what was changed or omitted all together the Catholic Church has never been “Christian ‘ …the word Catholic just means “Universal “….the Vatican is and always has been A Shrine to satan , do your research in this ….what an amazing deception all along ! Martin Luther figured it out with his reformation movement , and for this the Catholics firmed the Jesuit order …A military arm if the church designed to persecute and kill ( by burning at the stake , they’re favorite ) Martin Luther and his followers ! Even during the earlier times , if some peasant family were found with A Bible , they were burned at the stake …now how “Christian “is that ….. point is that since the time of Dan in the old Testament , satan’s own ( the Kennites ) infiltrated the Temple and became Scribes , changing the scriptures wherever they like ….Paul hijacked the early Christian movement , called the Essenes I believe , and made it his own into being more tolerant and perverting the real Christian way into what in today’s world would be Liberalism ….so supposedly they made Paul A Martyr then , but there’s no evidence of this , is there ? [show less]
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Parkersburg1962JAB777
OK everyone’s attacking you but I am intrigued. I’ve heard this repeatedly and I’ve also examined the differences between Paul’s ‘gospel’ and the others .
What else do you know? I’m really thrown off by the fact that he was never in the presence of Christ, by the fact that Christ said no one will see me again until I come back in glory(I am paraphrasing here) and yet Paul claims to have seen him, then there was a weird story of the Judaising of Christians where Paul was partaking in the head shaving that was ritual for the Nazarites. None of those things seem settled with me [show less]
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Nellykirk
While i dont agree with your take on Paul i do however agree with your take on the Vatican, it is historical fact that the Catholic church heavily persecuted the Christians, burned them at stake with their scriptures tied around their necks, However even with this heavy persecution and scripture burning some scriptures did survive and formed our modern day Bibles.
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Parkersburg1962JAB777
You are 100% about the Catholic Church. And what they’ve done to the Bible and what other people have done to the Bible and the fact that you just need to get a pre-king James Bible or the orthodox study Bible, but don’t be orthodox because they have that idol problem with Mary also and all the other idols. But their book is pretty [show more]
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JAB777Parkersburg1962
The Mary figure in the Catholic Church isn’t thee Mary , but Semiramis ….who is the Whore of Babylon ….and the baby figure us Tammuz , who’s birthday was December 25th …..Tammuz was born well after King Nimrod was killed in A hunting accident , supposedly by A wild boar attack ….so Tammuz was considered an immaculate conception ! … Jesus was born in September 29th is the most agreed upon date by Scholars ….but this “Whore of Babylon Semiramis may have been reptilian that had the ability to self impregnate ! …this Semiramis is also known as Diana , Is , Ishtar ( the Easter word ) and is also who the Statue of Liberty is fashioned after ! [show less]
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KenKrypto
I call it anti-corruption.
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Hiker
“My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will see i was right.”
Adolf Hitler
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Takemdown+67
Come on Ritter, stop using the Holohoax as an example. Makes you look bad.
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Mutilator (Mute me Harder) of Thirst
In my opinion it makes one look stupid, or deceptive.
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Triggerfish_eye
We should be comparing the Holomodor 60 million tortured dead in Russia by the same people crying 20 years later about the less than 6 million dead holocaust every time the holocaust is brought up. It should be in our history books but it isn’t because guess who writes the history to be taught to children?
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THWLMutilator (Mute me Harder) of Thirst
The mis-informed and brainwashed will still protect the “6 million jews” LIE that has cost innocent people trillions and kept people in a place of mental delusion.
Stupid maybe, but lazy in the mind and more than deceptive. Mis-informed intelligence is a dangerous person.
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Mutilator (Mute me Harder) of ThirstTHWL
Stupid & misinformed = same result as deceptive. Possibly weapons grade.
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THWLMutilator (Mute me Harder) of Thirst
Yes, the useful idiots do produce many of the same results. They are terribly mis-informed, but when they cling to the Whole lotta cost lie, covid lie, governments are “good people” lie, and fail to understand the bankers wars in the world over the last 250 years, they will continue to be useful idiots.
I have lost a lot of mercy/sympathy for the wealthiest half of the world.
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Drewtazy
Free America from AIPAC #BDS
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THWL
Yes, and from the Rothschild banking, law writing, governance that has been here since 1791, and more so since1913.
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briargates
then what does that make the rulers who actually control the filthy jooos???
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Hiker
Nobody controls the jews but satan not even themselves.
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YaIfollow
Filthy joos, No one other the zionist run all joos, haven’t you ever heard of the kahilla? Read BF Jackson’s ebook Mystery of the Serpent. It will tell you much that you don’t know
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YaIfollow
The present day Israelis are imposters, the most fraudulent identity theft ever. The joos are shatans literal children
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Hiker
Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer… and we are his chosen people.
Harold Wallace Rosenthal
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MemyselfI
Israelis are of Arab blood, they are Arabs. Why are they fighting their countrymen?
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YaIfollow
Wrong, The edomites and Canaanites. Search you Scripture He tells you who they are. Arabs.. wow wake the hell up
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briargatesYaIfollow
scripture. holy hell. go take another booster you fucking idiot.
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dtr7500
Because they are not “of Arab blood”. They are more Slavic than Arab. They are not direct decendants of Abraham and are not Semites. The true Semites are the Palestinians. Israel , generally are not real Jews. Zionism is pure evil and is the poison that is infecting the whole planet and it musr be eradicated.
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TommyMcvee
Albert Pike , free mason grand master who is still glorified by the masons wrote the script along time ago. They would have Islam and Israel destroy each other to bring in their world order . It would take 3 world wars to do so.
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YaIfollowdtr7500
actually turko mongolian
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Parkersburg1962briargates
Plenty more of your people got the booster than ours did pal. Look around @ yer wimmins, man-ugly angry bluehaired abortionists… generation of VAX holes for sure. I bet there’s more of us boomers than you guys by the time this is all over with actually. None of the people I know took it. But the kids and grandkids have. (Not mine personally) we all live out in the country-there’s more of us than anyone thinks. We grow our own food that’s why we’re stronger and not sick. Good luck buddy [show less]
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dtr7500Parkersburg1962
Well said, and ditto.
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Lakeva
Since Rothschild took over the English stock market in earnest, working on information concerning the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo of which he was first privy, England was bound to be pervaded by Talmudic influence. Even ministers altered their doctrine to ingratiate themselves to growing Talmudic financial influence.
America sealed its fate with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act 111 years ago, allowing Talmudists who opposed multiracial expressions of sympathy and respect for Jesus to subvert our Constitution and influence every sector of public and private life. The result is a total debt exceeding 250 trillion dollars when adjusted for obligations to the social contract, and forfeiting collateral.
John Nelson Darby hatched the novel theory of Dispensationalism in the 1820’s to placate the emerging Anglo-Rothschild dynasty of England. In America, it was Cyrus Scofield funded by the Lotus Club, who began the conversion of American evangelicals to the present corn fried Zionist interpretation of Christian scripture.
Jesus instructed people to love their enemy. Jesus’ own people took his life and ability to have a posterity. Yet He could ask for their forgiveness in his dying breaths. Jesus did not qualify his statement for modern day American Christians of the evangelical Zionist persuasion in order for them to ignore his directions when he said to love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.
Jesus didn’t say make sincere effort to love the most difficult people, except when it comes to people the Jews of the International Bureau of Usury don’t like, as expressed in their narratives spun across the world through media inculcation (brainwashing — spell casting). Why do you Mr and Mrs Christian buy into Palestinians being a special mutant race of miscreants exempted from Jesus’ direction? You are not under the Mosaic Covenant. This is a great mistake.
Capish? [show less]
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@dsallen7
3 days ago
Muslims in White nations are the symptom. Zionist control of those nations is the disease.

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@Spectromancer
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^^Bingo!

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AverageGerman
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I will hate mudslimes regardless albeit

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MrWebster
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Jewish* control (Zionist is meant to be a non racial term)

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Dissident Doctrine
3 days ago
Muslims aren’t importing the third-world. They don’t have that kind of influence. Timmy Rubenstein exists to direct people’s ire toward Muslims and away from the facilitators of mass-immigration; Jews.

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We The People
3 days ago
You’re right, there’s nothing ‘third world’ about beheading infidels.

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Tomigun
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If we Europeans did that, as we did when they invaded my country, Hungary, we wouldn’t have this problem with all these Semites. (One of the most famous Hungarian leaders, Miklós Zrínyi is depicted as he jumps over a beheaded Turk’s body on his horse, sword in hand.) They all would have fled Europe a long time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikl%C3%B3s_Zr%C3%ADnyi

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@chamax1
3 days ago
18 minutes and you missed the main point, Tommy is paid to stir the pot, so Muslims and Whites are at each others throats whilst the Jew gets on with destroying the West with mass immigration from the 3rd world.

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@MilosM.
3 days ago
whether Robbie is paid, muslims and whites at each other’s throats is not some artificial idea, without Jews, our antagonism would still persevere.

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@MilosM.
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look at bots slimming as usual. you are bots. unable to make any viable change irl

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Asadafa
3 days ago
Mohammedans have been invading our land, stealing our property, and enslaving and murdering our people since they were able, beginning with the Profiteer Mohammed himself. The international jew was allied when the international mohammedan when brute strength was decisive for world power, and the jew will return to exploiting that phenomenon if it ever becomes relevant again. The mohammedans are our cultural enemies, but as soon as they restore our territories and reimburse us for their invasions, we can have peace with them.
The international jew likewise cannot be tolerated, as the elements who were not hostile to us and our society would have been integrated thousands of years ago (constituting a disappearance), but his existence is to antagonize us from within our societies. He must be kept separate from us for our safety.
Mark is correct here: mohammedans are not the only problem. A simple look at black and colored crime in England and the rest of the Western world disproves Tommy’s position. The duplicity and ethnic hyper-collusiveness of the international jew also disproves the idea that the jew is tolerable and “just like everyone else.” The jew is not disliked for his success, but for his dishonesty (which led, not in small part, to his success in our non-ethnocentric societies).
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Long Knife
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at least we’re not named Fritz :waiting:

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
or eating wienerschnitzel and eating sauerkraut

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@MilosM.
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man, i love sauerkraut. and noodles with plum.

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@MilosM.
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i bet it hurts does it to slim each of my comments (and of others) as well, because you are small minded dorks for whom the very word politics is something deeply mind-boggling.

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@HighChiefVercingetorix
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damn now I’m hungry for schnitzel and sauerkraut

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Fancy
3 days ago
tommys is a low IQ movement of piss pots old school racists and the elderly that dont understand the issues. he just looks at the symptom as he is payed to do and to keep all these followers away from the truth of the real sickness bankers media and zionist power. He is the net to catch all the money and attention before it can get to where it should be going.

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@BMC1488
3 days ago
Oh Tommy Tommy!! Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Rubinstein!

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@FirstLast
2 days ago
What a very mature reality video. The BIG picture, not Zion Tommy/Steve Robinson/Lennon piece of the puzzle.

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Kim Jong-il 김정일
12 hours ago(edited)
Stephen or ‘Tommy’ self identifies as Israel first & wears a Mossad t-shirt. He has a tweet saying he’s Jewish in his own words. Yeah, let’s keep literal Jews in the movements to protect European sovereignty. What could go wrong?

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@TheNoDogmaZone
3 days ago
Tommy sounds like the British equivalent of US. RINOs. They all must be shown to be the limp dicks that they are.

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@Spectromancer
3 days ago
I agree with nearly everything Mark says but I think whites relinquished political control of the UK quite some time ago. 1880s if not earlier.

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2 days ago(edited)
1707 Act of Union. Or better named Dissolution of Nations. But really the internal rot started with 1066 and William the (((Norman))).

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
we now have “Miss India” beauty pageants in America

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wytisryt441
3 days ago
The Yanks brought it on themselves

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
the same tribe controls our American imagination as the UK mate

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wytisryt441
3 days ago
Sure. But we could’ve resisted. It’s time to take some accountability and get out of the victim mindset.

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Illustr8r
3 days ago
Are there any trannys? Or are Indians somehow exempt from the rainbow crowd’s tyranny?

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
it’s not yet taken a hold on their kids but they’re gonna be welcoming and accepting

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@Spectromancer
3 days ago
India has always had trannies.

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@HighChiefVercingetorix
3 days ago
Prettiest Street Shitter

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3 days ago
Spot on Mark

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Fancy
3 days ago
I agree with alot of what Tommy says. He is very magnetic his “story” is great even moving.. Thats why he is such a problem the best propaganda touches your heart makes you feel something moves you thats his job and he dose it well there is a tommy in every first world country softly pushing the zionist agenda. He could even be a crypto himself or just a Shabbos goy happy to flick there switches

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
I always tell normies the only people who benefit from multiculturalism are crooked politicians

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OldOneEye
3 days ago
“crooked politicians”
(((crooked politicians)))
There we go.

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@Spectromancer
3 days ago
Slumlords are cashing in.

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Asadafa
3 days ago
Kushner et al.

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mr
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I agree with what you say , to me Tommy has done good work but to think anyone but Islam is the answer is deranged and dangerous. But recently I do find my disagreeing with you on the Palestinian problem and I think your hatred of Jews clouds your feelings to an enemy’s enemy is my friend. I agree on the JQ but their Islamic faith even says to lie to the kuffir, they are the ones here on the ground in growing numbers and they are the main threat along with blacks who cannot be civilised. I want my country back how it was and I think being the frog and trusting the scorpion is a huge misjudgment even if you hate their enemy more. I still listen to you but I wish you would just be honest like in this blog and admit they are all our enemies and can never be trusted.

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rosco1314
3 days ago
fantastic Mark so well said i hope you can debate tommy and bring him aboard like you did with james goddard etc make white men white again

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All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.
3 days ago
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@Melgibsmedat
17 hours ago
Mark’s mods banned me on Telegram for using the term “Boomer”, which they called a “slur”, then ignored my request for the ridiculous banning to be overturned. Not ever Richard Tyce would deem “Boomer” a “slur” worthy of permanent ban.

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@JohnConnor
3 days ago
But we should side with them when it suits us hey Mark? No doubt your admins will ban this account too for exercising my free speech, which you uphold as a virtue but not when it doesnt suit you. Do a video on yourself before berating others.

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DOLO
3 days ago
Female energy.

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wytisryt441
3 days ago
Why because he called out Mark’s hypocrisy? You clearly hate accountability, which means you’re the one with “female energy”

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AverageGerman
3 days ago
how dare you! Xhe is valid.

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@popovacianen
3 days ago
yes u dork lol

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JamesL
3 days ago
What on earth are you wittering on about?

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@JohnConnor
3 days ago
Go “witter” somewhere else you uninformed midwit. Not my job to bring you upto speed.

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DOLO
2 days ago
Actually it is. When you make a claim, it’s your job to substantiate that claim.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
Over half the votes understand what im talking about, its not upto me to educate midwits.

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DOLO
2 days ago
You’re up-voting your own posts like a cringe lord, so we’ll knock one off for that, and regardless, it doesn’t mean i’m wrong, because i’m not.

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DOLO
2 days ago
You didn’t even say anything, so why not firstly make clear what your initial claim is, because to me it just looks like utter spergery, i have no idea why anyone would upvote that.

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@MilosM.
2 days ago
about that, how very peculiar that almost always my posts (and posts of the others, wherever they are admins or loyal supporters of PA and Mark) get slimmed.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
There are alot of disgruntled ex viewers lurking here now. I know of three others that were banned for disagreeing over the “controversial” islam video. Pretty sure you didnt ban my account but there are two admins I think could of done it.

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@MilosM.
2 days ago
if that’s the case, why they still lurk here? If someone thinks he is wrongly banned, I could let know Reed Johnson about it but as far as I know, no one got banned for just disagreeing with Mark on the islam video. I saw comments that definitely were against what Mark said there. Even I was against Mark talking with Blood Brothers.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
They lurk because they are sick of the hypocrisy. Mark talks about twatter, what happened to Sam and free speech when his own channel doesnt have it. I suspect Reed is one of the two that did the banning.

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@MilosM.
2 days ago
Here’s the thing; me, I mostly ban spammers, and delete comments with racial slurs in them and inciting rhetoric. I am not liable to what others do, though Reed as the primary admin, I subjugate to him, when he tell me to ban someone, I do it (and it was always during the stream). Now, I cannot say that agree with everything that Mark says, but he is freely entitled to opinions of his own. Now, if people cannot handle that… I mean, it’s no secret that he is opposed to zionism, he is not too keen on muslims either, but he participates on their streams. He is rather mute on Russia issue, rather than being adversial toward them and yes, some of it left some people disenfranchised with him. Oh and let’s not forget his allegiances to members of former NJP which was very contemptuous topic when NJP got disbanded. And I know Mark would love to have Nick Fuentes on his PWR stream, despite many people hating Nick. It’s not hypocritical to say that here and there come a few bad bunches, severely unable to accept their opinions challenged. And who live under a rock. Good riddance to them, I say.
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DOLO
2 days ago
Posting here because the guy who claims to be for free speech blocked me, so much for that moral high ground lol.
I’m not sure being on ‘Goodbye_jews’ side is the best option, this is him on an ed Dutton vid:
“Everyone should go slime Mark Collett’s video.
He is abetting the Muslim invaders in the UK,
Go ahead and splat all his videos to oblivion.
Disgraceful traitor!
Enemies are for eliminating, not for aiding/abetting.
Mark Collette is just another fuing grifter who reads scripts and movie reviews,
he is PRO-CENSORSHIP: blocks words like FK and KE in his chat
and he endorses that fat scottish jew-faot Colin Robertson aka Millenial Wuss.”
So is this also your argument? A fake and obviously untrue argument about loving muslims, and the fact you can’t say stupid comments in chat? i’d probably pick batter allies than pathetic losers and possibly fed agent spergs.
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@MilosM.
3 days ago
Mark never has said that we should ally ourselves with them.
And accounts get banned when they either troll or are are just being persistent jerks. This is not a space that tolerates autistic, edgelord outbursts with weak egos.

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@JohnConnor
3 days ago
Surely the weak ego is the one doing the banning? Its one thing to block someone so you dont see their comments, its another to block them from the channel so no one can see them.

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@MilosM.
2 days ago
If someone blocks someone, it is mostly out of personal reasons. If someone is blocked on the behalf of Mark Collett channel, that means they were either spammers (I dealt with plenty of those) or spergs who were unable to disagree on something in articulate manner. Then again, plenty of those who got blocked for personal petty reasons, are probably not even good for the channel. The thing is, racial and homosexual insult are not tolerated here because Mark is from UK. I am not living in UK but I have to abide by their rules. Nor are constant outbursts, and acting like a jerk. The dealing with the world of politics means that sometimes you have to accept that you are wrong, but also it means that you need a certain level of intelligence should you ever participate in it.
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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
None of those conditions apply to me being banned. My other account simply suggested we should be trying to ally with WN groups like Homeland (despite the differences and bad blood) compared to resorting to marching with Islam

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@MilosM.
2 days ago
well…I am not gonna say anything about it, I know about bad blood so I won’t suggest something to claim otherwise. Then again, you can always ask Mark personally about it through small donation (if you want that question to reach for him during one of his streams).

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
Unfortunately I didnt get a chance to. In any case we should just be able to discuss it in the comments later if not on stream, neither of which we could. As i said i know 3 others that were banned as part of that videos discussion.

@purepalm
3 days ago
look at this subversive rabbi….

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@Edward14
3 days ago
lol 17 likes and 17 dislikes on the first comment, at least mix it up a bit with your bots

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Vettekid1488
3 days ago
so you’re a fan of Tommy ? he’s a Jew lover

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@JohnConnor
3 days ago
Fk Tommy, im not a fan of hypocrites.

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Fancy
3 days ago
SIDE WITH THEM ??? Tommy has sided with the zionist and openly admits it he sides with the biggest threat to us all. These people want to destroy our culture they want us gone. Not to mention are responsible for shipping alot of these outsiders here. Do a video on yourself and how you need to wake the fuk up

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DOLO
3 days ago
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@JohnConnor
3 days ago
Side with mudslimes you git

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jimcric
1 day ago(edited)
If we went back 1500 years to Celtic Britain, the native population could have said exactly the same about the influx of Anglo-Saxons. Indeed centuries before that invasion, the Celts could have bemoaned the Roman invaders. Territories change and demographics alter. That’s the nature of life. The problem comes from seeing other ethnic groups as a problem. It is bad behaviour that concerns me, not ethnicity. If people are marauding around with weapons, that is a problem. Whether they have brown or white skin is a matter of aesthetics.

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Good balanced and fair video. I hope some of Tommy’s fans will see this.

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@purepalm
3 days ago
Tommy Rabbison makes me wish certain historical events were as real as his handlers claim they are….

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DOLO
3 days ago
Couple of things i learned from Jan the other day: When South Africa handed over power they had what was considered to be the worlds 20th best infrastructure, which is quite impressive, but they also had a 70k strong air force, of all white pilots, and these guys were shooting down Russian MiGs.

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We The People
3 days ago
Mass migration from foreign countries threatens our future as a people here in Britain, granted. But the mass migration of Muslims is the biggest threat. If you don’t think so, you don’t know history and you don’t know how Muslims act collectively to dominate and take over its host nation wherever it goes. We got to nip this in the bud or it’ll be too late for our grandchildren God bless them.

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DOLO
3 days ago
Did you even listen to a word that was said? Okay if mass migration of muslims is the biggest threat, then wouldn’t the cause of that threat by default be the biggest part of that problem, aka the jewish role in mass migration? The actual cause of the problem and not the symptom. You wouldn’t lay in bed for years taking pain killers if you had broken your leg, you would go and have your leg fixed which was the cause of the pain to begin with.

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Internet Racist
3 days ago
The LARPagan feds are going around other channels trying to get people to brigade this video. Feel free to ban all those divisive feds.

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Mark Collett
3 days ago
oh, who are the dislikes coming from this time?

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Internet Racist
3 days ago
An account named Goodye_jews seems to be the main instigator but a bunch of those pagan accounts like Talmudvision Zogberg seem to be joining in. They’re calling you a muslim loving race traitor among other things. They also seem obsessed with Millennial Woes and are attacking you for supporting him. It’s all so tiresome, I have trouble believing they aren’t bad actors doing this to cause fights.
I’ll admit I got a little triggered because they’re all attacking Christians as usual on top of it. Sorry for bringing this drama up, I feel stupid now that I’ve calmed down. Take care and keep up the great work Mark.

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Asadafa
3 days ago
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AverageGerman
3 days ago
aren’t you that Chinese Communist Propaganda agent I was agruing with a few months back?

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@Pandemonium
3 days ago
Your admins caused it Mark. Maybe replace them with ones that allow disagreement in your chat about your opinions on issues, instead of banning people.

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@MilosM.
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maybe those who disagree should grow some spine. And intellect. And class. Then wouldn’t be any need for banning.

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3 days ago
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@MarkCollett

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@MilosM.
3 days ago
Didn’t Robbie Tominson made clear once that he has nothing against non muslim Africans and Indians?
Ngl, his critiques of muslims aren’t that detached from reality, but once you notice cracks in his takes, colored in defense of Israel and deaf treatment of other nationalists (like Sam Melia) you really get to see that being a white nationalist doesn’t automatically make you a person worthy of following.

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Vettekid1488
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this makes me anxious and it’s not my homeland

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Magenta408@Yandex.com
2 days ago
He’s a rabbit.

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3 days ago
“no muslims are coming from india and nigeria”

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@popovacianen
3 days ago
who cares if they are muslims or not they are not european whites

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@Spectromancer
3 days ago
I agree. I don’t care if they are christian. They are not european.

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We The People
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If true, that good news. Of course it better if nobody in migrating here from India, Nigeria, or any other foreign country.

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Mark Collett: Hello everybody and good evening! We are here for the Patriotic Alternative Book Club. And I know what you’re thinking, this was meant to happen at the end of last month! But it didn’t – we had a few technical glitches. But we have rescheduled it, and it is happening now, obviously. And I have been very much looking forward to this. We have a full panel. And we have a superb special guest, who is obviously the author of this book. And we also have all of the regular guests, too. So that is very good.

 

Now if you could do us a favor we are on a new channel. We are on Laura’s Dlive. And if you can sub to Laura’s Dlive, that would be very, very much appreciated. Because Laura is just getting this channel up and running. We’ve had PWR on here one week. And we are going to be using this channel from now on. So this is our new channel. So if everyone can do us a favor and share it. Because it’s going to be a great show. We’ve got a wonderful special guest. And we’ve got this great panel. That would be super, super helpful!

 

Now we’re going to get straight into the action tonight. Oh, by the way, we are live on Odysee. We are live on Dlive. But we’re also live on Entropy. Now I’ll make sure the Entropy links are in all of the chat. So if people want to Superchat, which is to send a donation. Or if they want to ask an unpaid question they can do so through Entropy. And all the questions will be read out and asked to the panel, or to Greg Felton, at the end of the night.

 

Now the book we are reviewing is “The Host and the Parasite”. And that was written by Greg Felton. So we’re going to kick things off with Greg, the man himself. How are you doing Greg?

 

Greg Felton: I’m doing fine Mark. Baking here in Western Canada.

 

Mark Collett: Well, you’re loud and clear tonight. So I’m very happy about that. So just introduce yourself. Tell us briefly about yourself. And then, if you can, tell us about it, you know, take five minutes, or so, to tell us about how you came to write this book and what it’s about.

 

 

Greg Felton: Okay, well I’m, as you can guess, I’m Canadian. I am currently doing mostly science journal editing for a Swiss publishing firm. I have a Master’s in Political Science, a Bachelor’s degree in Russian language. And I also speak French and Mandarin. I never knew what I wanted to do when I grew up, still don’t really.

 

 

Ronit Lentin: To say there is migration to Ireland is a new thing, that Ireland was never a migration destination. Entirely untrue. Over the years waves of migrants, you had Celts, and Normans. Huguenots, and whatever, …

 

 

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Ronit Lentin: In the last 20 years or so there has been accelerated migration which was disproportionate.

 

When we talk about that kind of quantities of migrants we are still talking about reasonably small numbers. You know it is still under populated. There’s still room for people. Yet there is a panic. Ireland is a nation state which constructed the Irish people as a Gaelic catholic people. But over the years there was a tendency to strengthen Irish identity as Gaelic and Catholic.

 

In the course of that people who didn’t fit were excluded. And this is what the State does, and it does it in all sorts of ways. But at the moment it does it particularly through its immigration policies.

 

 

The experience of Jewish people during the War between 1933 and 1946 only 60 Jewish refugees were allowed into Ireland, which was neutral. And these people were being burnt!

 

And one of the things said by Minister Boland was that if allow too many Jews in there will be anti-semitism again. Jews obviously carry anti-semitism powder in their suitcase!

 

 

I come from Israel, [looping] I come from Israel, I come from Israel, I come from Israel. …

 

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Andrew Joyce – T&T 8 — SEMITISM – Aug 28, 2020 — Transcript

 

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Andrew Joyce: Hello everyone! And welcome to another episode of Talmud and Taboo.

 

I’d like to begin, as usual, by thanking those of you who sent donations via Bitcoin and Dinero after the last episode. Your generosity and support is much appreciated!

 

Today, our subject is “Semitism”, which as we will see is a more complicated matter than at first appears.

 

In the small preview video [see above] I made for this episode, an interview with the Israeli academic, Ronit Lentin, I attempted to convey the central elements of semitism, or rather to let the semitism of Lentin speak for itself.

 

If you haven’t watched that short video you should pause this episode and do that right now. I think you will find it very instructive.

 

In this interview with Lentin we see several aspects of the phenomenon that I believe can be usefully described as “semitism”. It begins with a re-writing of the national history of a European nation, in this case the Irish nation. Lentin argues that because Ireland has previously witnessed the migration of Celts, Normans, and Huguenots, then we should regard Ireland as a kind of “Proposition Nation”. A nation of immigrants that should continue to welcome immigrants.

 

She moves on to describe Irish identity as:

 

“Wholly constructed.”

 

And from there moves to a condemnation of this identity as:

 

“Inherently exclusionary.”

 

She plucks out the example of jewish difficulties in moving to Ireland during World War Two as the ultimate evidence of this.

 

The elements of semitism are rather obvious in my opinion. We see bad faith in participation in culture. She comments on history solely in order to distort or undermine it. We see actions to break down homogeneity of the host nation by promoting or providing apologetics for mass migration. We see hostility to national culture and identity among European out-groups, and especially we see commitment to jewish identity, especially aspects involving historical grievances.

 

These are some, but not all, of the elements that comprise this phenomenon. In order to delve a little deeper it might be useful to first investigate the origins of our terminology.

 

The term “semitism” in our understanding begins with the work of the 19th century orientalist scholar Ernest Renan. An expert in semitic languages. Renan believed that racial characteristics were instinctual and deterministic. And he singled out the semitic races of the Levant, including the jews, as being prone to dogmatism, and a cosmopolitan conception of civilization.

 

Even though Renan’s views on jews were complex and sometimes positive, he was singled out at the time by the Austrian jew academic Moritz Steinschneider, who accused Renan of promoting of what he called “anti-semitic prejudices”. And this is probably the first time “anti-semitic” appears in a distinctive terminology in the German as “antisemitische”.

 

It’s important to highlight at this early stage that Steinschneider was accusing Renan of possessing a systematized prejudice rather than defending anything called semitism. And to the extent that Renan employed the term “semite” or “semitic” he did so in terms of describing linguistic, or racial groups, rather than systematic or pattern behaviors they might demonstrate.

 

The crucial departure in this terminology really begins with the German journalist Wilhelm Marr, who coined the term “anti-semitism” in its modern understanding. For Marr in his pamphlet “The Victory of the jewish Spirit over the German Spirit — Observed from a Non-religious Perspective“, Marr made the case for “semitism” as a distinctive patterned behavior common to jews.

 

Here “Antisemitische” becomes “Antisemitismus”. “Semitismus” in Marr’s lexicon being interchangeable “Judentum” or jewry. Both referred to the jewish spirit, or a set of inclinations, aptitudes, and behaviors that refereed to “jewishness” as a thing in itself.

 

Marr’s innovation broke with the past in two ways. It sent a clear message that opposition to judaism as a religion played no part in the hostility to jews in modernity. And secondly, it pointed to the fact that unlike earlier terms, like “Judenhetze” or jew hatred, or in the English terminology “jew baiting”. The issue was not with the jews in themselves as jews, but in certain behaviors they exhibited that contributed to racial hostility.

 

These early origins of terminology are important because language is indicative of the ideology. You either believe that it are something that can be called “semitism” or you don’t. If you don’t, you will like Steinschneider, employ “antisemitism” as a single word, referring to a prejudice.

 

 

On the other hand if you employ the hyphenated “anti-semitism” you can see there is a “semitism” to be against. For this reason the 20th century jewish philosopher Emil Fackenheim advocated total abandonment of the hyphenated form. Quote:

 

“In order to dispel the notion that there is an entity ‘semitism’, which ‘anti-semitism’ opposes.”

 

End quote. Today there is a general reluctance to embrace the terms “anti-semitism” or “semitism”, because jewish groups have so completely dominated the use of the terminology that exists in culture solely to denote a prejudice and knowledge of what “semitism” might connote is almost nil in the population at large.

 

Because of the flight from these terms you will search in vain for uses in the modern dissident right. Kevin MacDonald trilogy, for example, is essentially an exploration of semitism. But it appeared there as a group evolutionary strategy. And in the many memes about jews, such as “Every Single Time”, what we are highlighting again is the phenomenon that earlier generations would have known simply as “semitism”. It’s patterned, observable, repeated, behaviors.

 

So what is “semitism” today? Is it confined solely to jews? Do all jews demonstrate semitism? What relevance does semitism have for present day politics and culture? I think semitism should be understand in the same way as leftism, multiculturalism, egalitarianism, or socialism, in the sense that it does connote something that is systematic, idealogical, political, cultural, and even spiritual. It is like all of these things a world view. One with a clear historical development, even if it has, in large part, been linked almost exclusively to jews.

 

Semitism has certain prejudices or foundational ideas which inform it’s praxis and dictate it’s progression. The roots of semitism do lie in judaism, though it has grafted other elements and influences to itself over the centuries. From judaism, semitism derives a racial instinct.

 

And one of the foundations of semitism is an understanding that jews are an authentic and legitimate racial group. And perhaps the only authentic and legitimate racial group. All others, as seen in the Lentin video, are simply “constructs”. Their entire history meaningless.

 

Jews do of course subscribe meaning to their own history and this is the second foundational element of semitism. Again we see the influence of judaism which with tales like that of the Exodus, attribute to jews the beginning is of a lachrymose history of victimhood. Victimhood is key to semitism, providing it with an arsenal of resentment to cohere around and a method of conceptualizing opponents that galvanizes hostility at a group level.

 

Again, if we look at the Lentin video we can see that Lentin views on Ireland are more than a little coloured by what is quite clearly an ethnic grievance rooted in a perception of past injustice.

 

This warped perception contributes to hostile action within culture which is the third foundational element of semitism. Semitism blames out-groups for the circumstances of the past and demand both revenge and a new set of values and circumstances that will prohibit the perceived injustice from ever happening again.

 

Since the beginning is of jewish involvement in European culture this has taken on very clear forms, ironic, sarcastic or deprecating attitudes towards out-group nationalism and identities. Promotion of cosmopolitanism and tolerance of deviance or alternative ways of living. Promotion or facilitation of mass migration, the rights of minorities in general, or in some extreme cases even invasion by hostile forces.

 

All of these things have to be achieved from within culture, so semitism as we know it really begins with jewish emancipation after the French Revolution. Emancipation initiated jewish participation in culture. And judaism was given rich soil in which to evolve into a more radical form.

 

Semitism is a radical judaism inflected via European culture. Semitism requires as one of its foundations the presence of jews occupying insider-outsider status. Jews who profess to have primary identity of American, French, German, etc., but whose actual activities, writings, and behaviors run counter to that identity.

 

Semitism in part is the hostile, or oppositional stance to a cult that one professes to belong to.

 

Another of the foundational elements of semitism is its economic, or financial, character. The influence of semitism proceeds from the wealth of semitism. Semitism is linked to intense capitalism. No one becomes a billionaire by accident. One must first of all desire to obtain that level of wealth. And very, very strongly, obsessively, in fact.

 

The high proportion of jewish billionaires doesn’t just indicate certain financial aptitude. But also the fact that jews are uniquely, or disproportionately, obsessed with money! This isn’t an ethnic slur, but an observable fact! Jews disproportionately produce individuals who’s life goal appears to be the acquisition of wealth, and the material access and political influence the com with that.

 

An important point to note however is that non-jews can become complicit in semitism and advance it. Christian zionism is an example of semitism to the extent that it shares in its foundations. Christian zionists accept and promote the idea of jews as the only authentic and legitimate racial group, a “chosen people”. The rest of the quote “constructed” nations merely fall into the category of being “two dimensional goyim”.

 

They also share in the conceptualization of jewish history of one of victimhood, and often join with jews in a fight against anti-semitism. Christian zionism also disavows White interests, and is awash itself with the wealth and influence of semitism. In short Christian zionism is an example of modern day semitism among non-Jews.

 

And semitism is increasing in culture. Recent plans for the removal of certain patriotic songs from famous cultural events in Britain are the work of certain black and ethnic activists, but they are acting within culture according to the framework innovated by the jews. They are using the techniques of semitism.

 

Blacks who join in viewing themselves as legitimate, and Whites as a “construct”, who follow the jews in adopting victimhood as a foundation of their identity, or who clamour for mass migration, are merely partaking of and advancing the dictates of semitism.

 

This bleeds in to the fact that certain memes of semitism such as “race as a social construct”, “white fragility”, and “no one is illegal”, are now absolutely widespread, viral, even.

 

Semitism truly is be coming something more approximating Marr’s conception of a jewish spirit, a Geist, than a conventional political ideology. There is a destructive and malicious quality to semitism that is evident even in the nihilism of the “Black Lives Matter” protests. Which are a quintessential mixture of race, identity, and grievance.

 

Successfully challenging semitism is extremely difficult. Jewish groups dedicated to semitism have perfected the propagation of the idea that the anti-semite is someone who simply doesn’t like jews! In much the same way that it is claimed that Whites find Africans objectionable, just because of their skin colour.

 

When I am asked if I like or dislike this or that jewish person, I often reply that:

 

“The question doesn’t match the problem! I don’t need to know this or that jewish person, or to have an opinion on jewish people as a whole, to understand the problematic nature of semitism and to have an opinion on it!”

 

The key question of the age is not whether, or not, people hate jews, or what to do about it, but whether semitism or anti-semitism are more sane, appropriate, and beneficial to Europe and Europeans.

 

Semitism says that Europeans are illegitimate! Anti-semitism says they are legitimate.

 

Semitism says that Europe is open to foreign colonization. Anti-semitism says it isn’t.

 

Semitism claims jews are unique, world victims worthy of special privileges. Anti-semitism says they aren’t.

 

Semitism denies it’s own existence, where anti-semitism calls for all card to be placed on the table, and to an open discussion of interests.

 

Which is more sane, appropriate, and beneficial to Europe and Europeans?

 

There are only two ways of proceeding.

 

Either jewish people can be convinced to liberate themselves from this toxic aspect of their culture, and this is unlikely, if not impossible.

 

Or Europeans liberate themselves culturally, and politically, and spiritually, from semitism.

 

All alternatives will simply assist decline!

 

Thank you for listening.

 

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