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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; Monika Schaefer &#160; The Flipside with Monika &#160; Ep 2 &#8211; Alfred Schaefer &#160; Sat, Jul 6, 2024 &#160; [In this weekly podcast episode on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer has her brother Alfred Schaefer &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/10/the-flipside-with-monika-ep-2-jul-6-2024-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Flipside with Monika</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Ep 2 &#8211; Alfred Schaefer</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Sat, Jul 6, 2024</span></h1>
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[In this weekly podcast episode on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer has her brother Alfred Schaefer as a guest. He talks about real life stories which become metaphorical for our epic struggle that we find ourselves in. One is an ice-skating story and the other is a sailing story, both of which were life-threatening situations.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">1. Monica introduces her brother Alfred as her first guest on her new show.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">2. Monica provides background that they grew up in Canada but Alfred now lives in Germany.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">3. Alfred tells a story about ice skating on a frozen lake in Germany.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">4. A man fell through the ice but was able to pull himself out, becoming hypothermic.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">5. Alfred yelled at the man to crawl to safety but he refused due to hypothermia confusion.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">6. Eventually the man crawled to Alfred with encouragement.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">7. Alfred connects this to people today not understanding real dangers due to indoctrination.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">8. Alfred discusses a sailing trip where the rudder failed crossing the Atlantic.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9. The crew had to stabilize the boat without steering.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">10. Some boastful crew members complained while others stepped up.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">11. The crew neared the Irish coast using teamwork and skills.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">12. Alfred believes a similar approach is needed as more people awaken to real problems.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">13. He maintains voting will not solve the issues and that hands-on work is required.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Good evening and good day, everyone. It is Saturday, July 6th, in the year 2024, and the producer is working hard at there was a little technical glitch, and that’s why there’s no music. But I am sure we’ll get that going before the end of the show.</p>
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<p>Yeah. My name is Monika Schaefer, and this is episode two of The Flip Side with Monika. And I am very happy to welcome my first guest on this episode, and that would be my brother, Alfred Schaefer! I’m going to give you a little bit of backstory for I’m always hoping that there are new listeners.</p>
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<p>And actually, before I do that, I want to make a shout out to a couple of people. One is a shout out to Frederick, that’s aka Blackbird9 of the Saturday Snack Shack fame. Because he’s really been taking me under his wing. It was through his show just over a month ago that I even got this gig here on the Republic Broadcasting Network, and I’m just so grateful for that. And I didn’t really do a proper shout out to him last week, so I’m doing that now. Thank you so much, Frederick, for helping me out and kind of taking me under your wing. Yes, thank you!</p>
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<p>And also Mer Bailey. She has a show on Sundays on the Republic Broadcasting Network. The title, which I believe is Yours Truly with Mer, I believe that’s the full title. And she did set up an account for me on Chatango.</p>
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<p>So it is the Flipside W Monika.</p>
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<p>So the W short for with so The Flip Side with Monika, but the just The Flipside W Monika dot chatango. Chatango.com. And that is a chat room where people can post things or ask questions or make comments, that kind of thing. It’s not very active yet over there because I’ve just begun! And I’m just hearing something in the background, but I think, yeah, we’ll carry on.</p>
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<p>So I wanted to take care of those two messages of thanks to Mer for setting up that account.</p>
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<p>Okay. So my brother Alfred, just briefly, we all grew up in Canada. So our parents, they immigrated from Germany to Canada in the early 1950s, and they had five children. We are all Canadian. And Alfred is the second eldest. I am the fourth in the family. So the second youngest in the family.</p>
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<p>And Alfred, it turns out, reverse migrated in the eighties, in the 1980s. So he’s been living in Germany since several decades. He worked for a while in Canada, saved up enough money to do some traveling, cycling, and whatnot, and ended up staying in Germany.</p>
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<p>And so that’s how it came to be that Alfred is living in Germany and I’m living in Canada, but we grew up in Canada together. And that’s kind of an important point because a lot of people have been a bit confused by that, including the judge in our trial! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Okay, so today we’d like to talk about some stories that probably Alfred hasn’t talked about on too many broadcasts before. And these are nice stories from the past, which happen to connect and tie in very nicely with the predicament that we find ourselves in now. One is a sailing story. One is a skating story. So you might wonder what this has to do with the predicament that we find ourselves in. But we’re going to get into that.</p>
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<p>But before we do, I just want to say, welcome to The Flip Side with Monika! And welcome to this episode number two. And my first guest, and that is Alfred.</p>
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<p>How are you today? In the wee hours of the morning, I might add, because it is the wee hours, Sunday morning for you.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for getting up so early. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Monika, for, first of all, for hosting the show and having me on your show. Yeah. It’s 02:00 am in the morning for me now, but that’s not a problem. This is a 24 hours job for us now to get this right. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> What’s going on in the world.</p>
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<p>Yeah. There’s an event that happened to when I was quite new in Germany, actually.</p>
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<p>You know, I think it might have been 1985 or something like that. I don’t remember the exact year.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Are we talking about the sailing event, Alfred?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> No, the ice!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, okay. If you want to start with that’s fine, because that was what then you, &#8230; I was going to give a little bit more backstory for why that is important right now.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, let’s go with that.</p>
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<p>Basically, in the trial, which took place in 2018. And this was a trial in Germany for us, both Alfred and myself. And it just had to do with, you know, Paragraph 130. And that’s the so-called, “<em>Holocaust Denial Law</em>”.</p>
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<p>But anyway, Alfred did speak for about a day and a half. The German system, justice system, whatever else you might say about it, though, the one thing remaining that is still good about it is that they do give the accused “<em>the last word</em>”. And you can talk for as long as you want, as long as it is relevant to whatever it is that the charges are against you. And if they, the judge might question on that. Well, if you can demonstrate how it is relevant, then you carry on talking.</p>
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<p>And so Alfred did talk for a day and a half at that trial. And he basically wove the whole thing into this tapestry of this story that he’s going to tell you about in a moment. And that is this ice skating story. And the judge did actually question Alfred, like:</p>
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<p>And always you were able to bring it back to how it is relevant. And I was actually really moved by that, how you wove this tapestry together with this story.</p>
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<p>So with that bit of an introduction to that story, please go ahead and tell what happened there back in, when was it, in the 1980s, when you were pretty new over there? Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Correct. Yeah. Thanks, Monika, for bringing this additional information. Yeah, this is a story, I find it such a coincidence that this story happened to me. Because it’s helped me so much in helping to understand what’s at stake for us now, basically.</p>
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<p>So I’ll just go into the story.</p>
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<p>It was in the wintertime, obviously, and Ammersee, which is the lake where I was living at the time, is here near Munich. It had frozen over, which doesn’t happen very often, maybe once every ten years or so. and a snowstorm was set to come in. So I say:</p>
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<p>Because it was just so beautiful, so wonderful! The pure, clear ice. And coming from Canada, of course, young people in Canada generally all skate.</p>
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<p>So, anyway, I take off with my skates, go from the Herrsching to the other side in Diessen, it’s probably, I think, maybe 25 minutes or something to cross. I don’t even remember exactly how long it took.</p>
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<p>But as I was going across, the snow was starting to set in stronger and stronger. And I get to the other side. There was some ice hockey players there and so forth.</p>
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<p>So I just basically touched the other shore and headed back. And the snowstorm was increasing rapidly. Until the vision was basically like in a fog. I couldn’t see much at all anymore, but I could still maintain direction. That wasn’t the problem. Then suddenly I saw this. It looked like a seal laying on the ice. And I said:</p>
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<p>So I went in that direction. And then suddenly, an arm! The seal raised an arm, and I could hear a help cry:</p>
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<p>And I said:</p>
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<p>And then I reduced my speed, because I was skating, I reduced my speed. And then I heard the ice starting to make cracking sounds underneath my feet. So I instantly go down on all fours to spread my weight a little bit. And I started communicating with him, and I asked him:</p>
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<p>And he says:</p>
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<p>But he wasn’t in the ice. He was laying on top of the ice.</p>
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<p>And then through this continuing dialogue, he told me, yeah, he had broken in, and he managed to crawl out onto the ice, which is a major feat! Normally when somebody breaks into the ice and doesn’t have a pick or something as some kind of a tool to pick his way out of the ice.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Like to anchor.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, like an anchor, right. It’s very hard, and very few people could do it. But this guy was obviously very athletic. He was fairly young, you know, healthy, athletic. And he managed to pull himself out of the ice. He wasn’t on skates. He was walking on foot. But he had these, at that time, these Walkmans were kind of in mode kind of thing, and he wasn’t paying attention to the sounds around him. And he broke in.</p>
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<p>But he did manage to get out, and here he was. Had managed to get himself out of the life threatening situation that he had suddenly found himself in, namely, broken through the ice. Managed to get out, and then he started to. He was shocked, I guess it was, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Hypothermic, you could say. He must have been hypothermic. And you don’t think clearly anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Exactly! Exactly! That’s exactly what happened. Hypothermia was setting in, and he thought it was more important to get his hands warmed up than to just start moving and get away from the hole where he had broken into.</p>
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<p>And so I says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, well, come on, come to me. I cannot come to you! You’ve got to move. Crawl! Crawl on all fours towards me, or on your belly. Crawl over to me. I cannot come to you!”</span></h3>
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<p>And of course, that was way before we had cell phones or anything like that.</p>
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<p>And for me to go and get help would have been also his end, because the snow was setting in, and it was a pure coincidence that I happened to see him on my way back across the lake.</p>
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<p>If I would have left him to go get help, we’d never find him again. And time is life or death in a situation like this.</p>
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<p>And no matter how much I tried to convince him:</p>
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<p>He refused! He just says:</p>
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<p>And he’s laying on his belly there, rubbing his hands, thinking that’s important. His mind had., &#8230; It was like he did not understand! He could not reason anymore. And no matter how much I screamed at him, his hands were more important. And he just laid there.</p>
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<p>And finally I got more fierce and more ferocious until he finally, I guess, finally I did make an impression on him. And after considerable screaming and yelling and insulting him and whatnot, he did start crawling towards me.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Now, all this yelling and screaming was not because I was angry with him. No! It was simply because I understood. Growing up in Canada, one learns the effects of hypothermia, and why when you’re getting cold and you’re hiking or something, you are not supposed to sit down and think, you can rest. You have to keep moving until you can actually find something where you can to warm up somehow. Because what if you sit down in the snow because you’re tired, that’s the last time you ever sit down, and you will die in that position.</p>
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<p>And this guy was in a found himself in a position where he had actually managed to get with his own self, get himself out of the water.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet the hypothermia put him in a state of mind where he did not understand the next steps that he needs to follow through with to ensure that he survived.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is very much akin to what we collectively find ourselves in today in our world with what’s going on in our indoctrinated state of mind! We have been indoctrinated all our lives to the point where now the zombies, if you will, who still, who believe these lies, they are no longer capable of making the decisions that will save their lives!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I mean, like fear from Corona snakes and getting a bioweapon vaccine, I mean, how many people has that already killed? And how many people will be dying and are dying every single day now because they listen to this nonsense and allowed themselves to be injected with a bio weapon.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So Alfred, yeah, that’s fantastic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And just before you carry on with that the analogy to today’s zombies basically not making the right decisions for their lives. I’m sure that the listeners are very curious how it actually ended with this guy. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You just got to complete the story!</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fnally, he was more afraid of my screaming at him than he was concerned about his poor cold hands. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> And he did start moving towards me. And then finally, as soon as he made his first little move, I was just elated:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, he’s coming! He’s coming!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I kept yelling and yelling and yelling until he got close enough to me. And then we backed away from the area where he was. And then I got up, and I helped him get on his feet, and then I walked with him. I was on my skates. He was just on his feet. And we headed towards the shore where these ice hockey skaters were.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After his first steps, he could see, he’s getting better. He’s getting better. He can do this! We’re going to make it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then when I got in sight of the shore, I say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, you see those people over there? I’m going to go over there and tell them that you are on the way to join them. You need to get into a warm place and so forth.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I scooted ahead, told those people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You see that guy out there? He’s coming in your direction. He was in the ice. He needs help. He has to go into a warm place.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He was saved with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> The reason you did that. I know that you had told us at the time it was getting dark. You needed to get yourself back across the ice, and the snowstorm was just getting bigger and bigger. Isn’t that the way it was, Alfred?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36026" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02-1024x784.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="490" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02-1024x784.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02-600x459.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02-768x588.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-02.jpg 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Monika skating safely in Canada]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Yes. And my whole concern there was this, because the snow was just getting more and more intense. I wanted to get myself back to the other shore. And seldom in my life did I feel such intense fear! Every time there was any kind of sounds that were like. Because this was this was in my bones now!</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Like, I just strided back to the other side, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And to avoid that fall. And here you are in the snowstorm. I can imagine that would have been spooky. And I do know from a lot of experience of ice skating on lakes, I call it “<em>wild skating</em>”. It’s one of my passions. I just love it! And I seek every opportunity to do. So but if somebody hasn’t done this before, and if they’re with me, they freak out at every little “<em>ping, pong</em>”. You know, you hear these sounds when the ice is making sort of these distance, distant, like, cracks form. That’s just a natural thing, even if the ice is thick. And there’s these “<em>pings</em>”! You know, and it’s a lot of fun, but in your state there. Yes. And it’s getting dark. I can only hardly imagine, actually, how frightening that would have been. Carry on. Thank you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36025" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01-1024x815.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="509" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01-1024x815.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01-600x478.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01-768x611.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Monika-Schaefer-skating-in-Canada-01.jpg 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Monika avoiding becoming a seal, &#8230;]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, but this experience of having., &#8230; But just the only thing I physically did for this man who had broken in the ice was “<em>words</em>”. Yelling at him! Screaming at him! I did nothing else for him. He did it all for himself. And that’s what we have to do now. We have to reach our people who are just refusing to open their eyes! Refusing to want to grasp what is going on, but they do need to be reached!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, with their own strength, with their own resolve and power, we will save ourselves from this death matrix under which we are presently suffocating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, I mean, I noticed you and I, Monika, we were indoctrinated just like everybody else was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Certainly were! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> And we’ve come out of it, and coming out was a very traumatizing process.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:13]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> And these people who have not yet made the first step, they will all be needing incredible help and care when they do come out of this matrix. Because you change in your entire being once you detoxify, you know, decontaminate yourself from these horrible poisons, these toxins of these lies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the process we’re seeing now in full steam, in full force. It’s really going fast now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this experience proved to me that it is possible. And without that, having had that experience, I don’t know if I would have had the perseverance to keep going in the struggle that we’re in now. But having experienced that, I know it is possible. It is possible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m seeing signs of every time I meet somebody who understands everything, I’m just elated because:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s another one! Another one who understands!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so forth. And now our numbers are growing very rapidly, Monika.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, that’s fantastic! And I will just reiterate how you wove that into your “<em>last word</em>” as you were basically discussing our situation that we find ourselves and always bringing it back to that. And, it’s related also to this old saying about “<em>don’t shoot the messenger</em>”. You know, in this case, yeah, you had to really scream and yell at that guy. And you finally did get through to him in spite of his hypothermic state of mind and just how you must have just really had to scream and probably use some words that we can’t repeat on the radio here today, to just get through.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then he did save his life with his own effort. Well, you did save his life. You really did! Because like you said earlier, I mean, if you hadn’t have just happened to come along, he would have sunk deeper into that hypothermic state. And when a person does go into that state, they actually do enter a pleasant state where they hallucinate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, there are lots of people who have, you know, been rescued from the hypothermic state where they will tell afterwards:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, they were enjoying themselves!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people who are in a snowbank at 30 below, they’ll take off their jacket and mitts because they’re feeling really warm and toasty and enjoying themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that also compares to our current state, doesn’t it, Alfred? Because people are just going around just thinking everything is tickety boo. Perhaps some of the members of our own family are in that category. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> We don’t have to mention their names or anything. But yeah, but yet, okay, &#8230; When we’re bringing our message! Yeah, that’s what we’re trying to do, is rattle people awake. And go ahead. You have something you want to add to that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> What I had mentioned a few times during our court trial was that this is as if that guy who I had saved, whose life I had saved, just by screaming at him about getting him to understand the reality, as if he would come to me now, years later, and accuse me of not being polite enough!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, you weren’t nice enough. You weren’t politically correct enough. You called me bad names and you hurt my feelings with those bad names.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a life and death struggle that we are in. And everybody will, at some point in time, many will know it as they die:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh. Oh! That was a mistake!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But others are waking up. More and more are waking up. And this isn’t about being nice and being polite and so forth. This is about flying a flight path, or a course that where we don’t crash into the mountain, kind of thing. It should never have come to this point as we find ourselves now. That’s how it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And thank God, Monika! Thank God, that we are now seeing in this death matrix the typical last phase is when they make laws against naming the problem! And that’s always the last state, because then they just go into a panic kind of thing. And that’s what we’re seeing these days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So now is a good time for everybody just to understand what’s going on and go full force! Completely ignoring any blots of toner or laws that they may have, telling us what we are allowed to say and not allowed to say. These people have no right to tell us what we are not allowed to say, as they are trying to kill us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly! Exactly! If anybody thinks that they even have the right, or who would even dream of thinking that they can make a law to put our history into existence in a certain way. Does that even make sense? Or making a law that you’re not allowed to dislike a certain group of people or name a certain group of people, or just point out simple facts about that certain group of people? Well, if they need to make laws against that, then we know that there’s a problem with that certain group of people! It just is so obvious!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I guess, we just have to carry on trying to wake people up to these very simple things! I do have a hard time sometimes to fathom that it is not becoming quite apparent to everybody. But the spell, the spell is so deep and so big that has been cast on our people and through words. Through word magic, really, even just the word “<em>spell</em>”, that also means to spell a word, like spelling. You know, we all participated in spelling bees in grade school, so to spell a word, but it also means this thing that is like casting a spell, like magic! Isn’t that interesting? Oh, there’s so many words when you study the language and how they have these multiple meanings, that they actually tell us things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:32]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And while I’m thinking of this word magic, here’s an interesting one. It’s different from our topics here, Alfred, but I just am thinking of it, so I’m going to throw it out there. Think of the word “<em>Aboriginal</em>”, because lately I’ve been talking and thinking a lot about in Canada we’ve got this, these stories being concocted about the graves and mass graves and whatnot. And it’s very similar to the stories they concocted about World War Two and the so-called “<em>Holocaust</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’re getting our own &#8220;holocaust&#8221; set being set up right now as I speak. But think of the word “<em>Aboriginal</em>”. This is how they call the indigenous peoples of North America. Also in Australia, I know they use the word Aboriginal. Okay, think of the word “<em>normal</em>” and “<em>abnormal</em>”. Now think of the word “<em>original</em>” and “<em>Aboriginal</em>”. I’ll leave it at that they tell us things with the words! A dear friend of mine just pointed that out to me, so a shout out to him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, so, Alfred, there is another story that I would like you to tell the listeners, and that is when you were, &#8230; You had done quite a few sailing trips, and you could give a little bit of background about that beautiful old schooner that you had the privilege of getting onto. And I know we’re coming close to the bottom of the hour, and I’m not sure if the producer has sorted out the music.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-4.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36024" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-4.jpg" alt="" width="568" height="770" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Alfred pondering rudder design, &#8230;]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if we hear that break well, &#8230; We’ve got a couple of minutes so we can get the story started and then continue after the break. But tell a little bit of background about the schooner, because I think that’s such a neat story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then about your sailing trip and where you found yourself in the middle of the Atlantic without a rudder <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> and what happened next.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Before I start that story, I just want to say thank you for talking about this spell that we are under.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Red-Ice-Radio-Nick-Kollerstrom-Breaking-the-Spell-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23983" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Red-Ice-Radio-Nick-Kollerstrom-Breaking-the-Spell-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="565" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Red-Ice-Radio-Nick-Kollerstrom-Breaking-the-Spell-COVER.jpg 698w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Red-Ice-Radio-Nick-Kollerstrom-Breaking-the-Spell-COVER-600x848.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2015/03/05/red-ice-radio-nicholas-kollerstrom-the-holocaust-myth-and-reality-transcript/" rel="next">Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I remember Nick Kollerstrom, and he had written that book, Breaking the Spell, and it was about the Holocaust, the “<em>hollow hoax</em>”. And I find that’s a very good way of looking at these things because it is a spell! It’s a spell like somebody has a magic wand and can get you paralyzed with that with abracadabra! Saying a few words and down you’re on your knees. That’s what these things are like, the Holocaust spell.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> And setting up these. And teaching our children these things in schools. That is actually a “<em>mind rape</em>”, is what that is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> And it’s an absolute mind rape.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And back to your skating. And the guy who pulled himself out of the ice water there, the hypothermic state that he was in, it’s a different kind of a mind. It’s not a spell, but it put him also into a state of mind where he could not think clearly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was a very, very good analogy and a good story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. It’s like an anesthesia to the mind. It’s like a lobotomy. You are these people. It’s like a runner who has a broken leg. He cannot run as he could if his legs were healthy.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Whoops! I think we’re up at the break now.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Okay. We’re into the break.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Without the music! We’ll get that sorted out for next week because we did have bumper music. Nice, classic music. But okay, here we go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Here we go. Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, good. There it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[music break]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[commercial break]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[music break]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Welcome back to The Flip Side with Monika. And thank you so much, Mr Producer, for getting that music going. That is just such a beautiful piece.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, Alfred, before you get into this sailing story, we had another very short story, but it gives me the opportunity to highlight and mention and give a shout out to the absolutely critical and fantastic work that Professor Robert Faurisson did over the course of about four decades. He worked incredibly hard at putting, pulling together, investigating evidence, actual physical evidence, topographical evidence, documentary evidence, all these different kinds of evidence at Auschwitz, predominantly, I think, and to basically refute the mainstream story that we’ve been told about what happened at Auschwitz.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, I missed out on the great pleasure of meeting him. I never met him in person. But you did, Alfred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So why don’t you just share this little short story? Because it does demonstrate that in all the serious, &#8230; And he was a man who was. What did he say? Something about “<em>attention to details</em>”. He said it a little bit differently. Maybe you remember exactly the words he used. Always attention to details.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But he also had a wonderful sense of humor, I think, because this story kind of does show that. Go ahead, Alfred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Oct-2015-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-19366" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Oct-2015-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="531" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Oct-2015-COVER.jpg 627w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Jim-Rizoli-Robert-Faurisson-interview-Oct-2015-COVER-198x300.jpg 198w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2018/10/24/jim-rizoli-interviews-prof-robert-faurisson-oct-2015-transcript/" rel="next">Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, yeah. That was a Professor Robert Faurisson. And the amazing thing is that he persevered for so many, like so early on he understood somehow where these lies were heading, where in our minds they were just, we didn’t even take them seriously. But he knew. No, no, this has to be taken seriously. And he was completely and totally uncompromising when it’s came to the details of the truth! You know, no compromising on that. And he always said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“With the Holocaust, you’ve got to start with the gas. And there was no gas for any human beings! For like, that was a complete fabrication and absolute total fabrication!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so forth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Of course we know that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, I want to tell you, I was so lucky, so fortunate to be in a little group that went and visited him in Vichy on his 88th birthday in France there. And there’s quite a number of people there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when I got to sort of in the line to shake his hand and say hello to him, he was sitting in his chair there. And I says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, hi, I’m Alfred Schaefer.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He looks up at me, says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Who’s Alfred Schaefer? I don’t know Alfred Schaefer.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’m Monika’s brother.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And with my arm, I pretended I was holding a violin and, like, playing a violin. And he instantly recognized who I’m talking about! And he jumped up from his chair and just gave me a huge hug! Like a real bear hug. A big hug! And he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This hug is not for you! It’s for your sister Monika! I give this hug to your sister, Monika!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And of course, I’ll never forget that. So I gave you that hug back several times.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It was in court. In court! It actually in the courtroom is where you passed on. No?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Oh, yeah. There. Yeah. Yes, it was!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Because this birthday party, I think it took place while I was in prison <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> or somewhere around that time. No? But I think you’re exaggerating that he did know who you were. And you’re very humble, Alfred, to tell it as if he didn’t know who you were. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Because it’s not how I heard it last time. I think he jumped up and just gave you the hug and then said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It was not for you, but for your sister!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, you’re being very humble there that to say he didn’t know you, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> but I wasn’t there, so maybe that’s how it went. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Because it’s like he meets a lot of people and so he can’t know everybody.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then at that time, Monika, that piece</p>

<p>, Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust. It really hit a chord! It was unique! We never had anything like that before. And that’s a what brought this enthusiasm and joy to people was to see such a simple message, and it just sticks in their minds.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Basically. This five minute video, Monika, undid hundreds of millions of dollars worth of indoctrination that they had spent and invested to get us believing all this utter nonsense! It was so powerful, Monika! So innocent and so beautiful! So that was a piece of history! So that’s, you know. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, that’s real nice. Thanks, Alfred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, so let’s get on to the sailing story. Tell us about that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Through a chain reaction of coincidences, or whatever you want to call it. I was a crew member on an old sailing schooner, as a yacht, or whatever you want to call it was a built as a ship, an old wooden boat built in 1937, I think it was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/People-Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36037" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/People-Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023.jpg" alt="" width="765" height="621" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/People-Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023.jpg 765w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/People-Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-600x487.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 765px) 100vw, 765px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the first time that we sailed this thing across the Atlantic, the North Atlantic, was in 2003. It was the Daimler Chrysler North Atlantic Challenge. And we were actually overstaffed, if you will, on this boat. Normally it’d be eight people on this boat, and we had, I think about eleven or something like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-MAP.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36036" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-MAP.jpg" alt="" width="875" height="396" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-MAP.jpg 875w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-MAP-600x272.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Daimler-Chrysler-North-Atlantic-Challenge-2023-MAP-768x348.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 875px) 100vw, 875px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And anyway, the day after, our navigator said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, listen, as we’re halfway from Newport, Rhode Island, Newport, halfway to Ireland, because it was going to go over the north of the UK kind of thing and so forth, halfway between Newport and Ireland and equally far to Greenland or Iceland.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that night, it was the other watch, the other shift kind of thing that was at the helm. Then the skipper went through the boat and he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We have a rudder failure. Rudder failure!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ll never forget that, because we had a mechanical rudder failure, meaning that we couldn’t steer anymore with the steering wheel. And from an instant., &#8230; Oh, do we have music coming in? Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I’m not sure. I wasn’t thinking that we had another break. I’m thinking we keep going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Okay, we’ll keep going, I guess.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36023" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-3.jpg" alt="" width="424" height="607" /></a></p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Anyway, from an instant, our entire being or existence on this ship went from getting the sails, always having the sails in perfect trim, and the course like, go, go, go! Like, it’s a race, like a regatta. It went from that mode into a mode of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Holy smokes! This is survival now!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, we’re in danger of sinking if something happened, like, things could happen that would have us sink!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this was a long keel boat, and the skipper and the people who understand this know that in a long keel boat, if you can get it pointed in the right direction and get the sail set properly, you can actually keep it on course without the rudder. You know, you can stabilize it somehow, but you don’t need it to keep your direction going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And anyway, what happened, though, in this scenario, like, it took several days before we got the ship in a stabilized direction and going, you know, heading towards Ireland kind of thing. But with the people that were the loudmouths before, we thought they were the heroes and so forth and were on top of the world, there was a couple like that in that crew. And they were the ones who were the whining little wimps after this paradigm change! Which is what it is when you go from racing mode into survival mode.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And another group of people were the ones who would stay calm and just figure out:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What do we do? What actions do we need to take?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then another group. So it was like three groups, basically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another group basically stayed below deck and stayed out of the way, were not a problem, but they just kind of went into their corners and kind of hid there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Basically stay out of the way, but not whimper and whine, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Eaxtly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> But available if needed, I guess. Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[46:38]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yes, correct, correct! And my own role was basically, there was a couple guys that the skipper had hired, like professional sailors who had lots of experience and so forth. And I was neither the navigator nor was I the expert. But they always:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Schaefer, come on, get up here! We’re gonna do this with that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, I was always there like holding stuff or doing this and doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-1.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="531" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-1.jpg 800w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-1-600x398.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Alfred-Schaefer-Sailing-1-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is a situation that we are facing now with this paradigm change that we are in at the beginning of right now, where we are dismantling the death matrix. And we’re going to come out of that understanding what the facts are, the truth of the matter is, and what needs to be done to reconquer our old civilization, like get control over our civilization again. This is what’s inevitable! We either do it or we die! This is one of the same situation as on that boat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And those people who are now the big mouths on TV every day telling us this and telling us that, you will see them hiding. They will be hiding in the cracks! Because if anybody catches them someplace, they probably won’t survive. You know, if they walk down the street and somebody recognizes them and they happen to have a pitchfork in their hand, they’re going to get the feel the pointy end of that pitchfork real fast. I mean, it is so obnoxious what they are doing to us. And they will disappear. And the people that will be running and driving things are people that we don’t even necessarily know of, or have ever seen yet, but they will come out of this mass of people who are waking up and so forth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s also an experience that I had that clearly shows me what we can expect in the immediate future, if you want to call it that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I just think it’s so interesting. I remember you describing that a few years ago when you described that scenario where, like you say, it’s a paradigm shift, complete and utter paradigm shift, from just going along racing mode, everything’s good, and then to survival mode.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then these three groups that emerge from the crew that you have that nobody foresaw that, they emerge, and you get your natural. Okay, the people who step up to the plate and they just get into action. And like you say, these people in our current situation, like, sometimes people are looking for a leader, and often it’s a matter of, okay, maybe just look in the mirror. You might find one there! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> But it can be surprising where, you know how people then react or where they’re going. And like you were saying that the ones that were kind of the, I don’t know where they boasting and bragging or just loud mouth people, and they go whining and whimpering and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we got a call for help!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or they, weren’t they the first that called for they wanted you to all do the SOS call. Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Maybe you can continue with the story, because again, people are going to be wanting to know how it all ended! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You didn’t crack! We know that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. At the end, we did make it to the Irish coast. And then when we were really close to the shore, then we radio to have a, the Coast Guard come in and tow us into this secure port because you can’t maneuver.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Tell us how you did that. How did it go? Because you were rudderless and you were kind of floating like a cork, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, exactly! And we secured what was left of the rudder so that it would not get torn off, which could have created a hole in the Hull and then you’d have, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well one of these fellows, the young strong guy, didn’t he kind of hang upside down and he, like, literally, &#8230; Off in the water? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I mean, incredible, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. I won’t get into all the details of how we actually did that because that’s a story for itself. But, yeah, yeah, we had a couple of very competent people there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the interesting thing was these boasters, these bragger types who:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I was here! I was there!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re always bragging about how, you know what heroes they are. And these were the ones that were just whining and telling the skipper:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s going to do an SOS! We got to get help!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so forth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you have an SOS call out at seat on a boat like that and those people who come to get you, also get to keep your boat, you know, these are the “<em>laws of the sea</em>” sort of thing! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> So we managed with our own strength, with our own ingenuity to stabilize the boat, to get it on our own power sort of thing., &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Like hobble. Basically, the analogy would be to hobble in. To hobble in, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yes, correct. We crawled or hobbled into port kind of thing. Yeah, that worked out very well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was so interesting to see how those people who portrayed themselves as being the big heroes were actually whining wimps when suddenly the narrative changed! The paradigm shift happened!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we will be seeing that here, too. See, we’ve been led to believe that life consists of buying shiny, nice little toys and things and so forth. And the more shiny toys you have, the more you are seen as being a successful person.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet the death matrix under which we are now being suffocated is our absolute certain death for all of us! Life does not consist of having a thing called money to buy toys. We have to think about where this is taking us. Having no borders. Everybody who has thinks it’s nicer to be in Germany or Canada or United States than a slum in Lagos or Calcutta.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[52:40]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Of course, we are an attractive place to go because we have everything, but that is artificial. Normally, all the stuff that we have, our infrastructure was not intended for those people who are poor in one of these teeming slums in the third world or something. We will turn into a steaming slum if this trajectory is allowed to continue. That’s what our situation is right now. Just like when our rudder failed, we had to do certain things. We did those certain things, and then we could continue our path, or we had a trajectory that took us to the coast safely. That’s what we have to do now. We have got to find a trajectory that will secure our future.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And right now, we are like in an airplane with a pilot who’s drunk. We’re heading to a mountain range. And if we continue on this flight path, we will all die! That’s our situation now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But because people are waking up in droves, we will muster the strength and energy that we need to get this right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But everybody has to understand. Just like that guy on the ice who didn’t understand his predicament, in the end, he did understand, and he did actually save himself with his own strength.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The only thing he got from me was screaming and shouting and orders. That’s all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> You know, both of these stories actually are, they have parallels in that you know, the guy who was hypothermic, he did save himself. I mean, with your screaming and yelling obviously, but he did with his own strength, actually move.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then in the sailing story, you all say you brought yourselves within reach of the shore where, yeah, I realize you just got the last bit, you got towed, but basically you were there, you hobbled in yourself. You rescued yourself. You rescued yourself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this, I think that’s really important for people to understand. Like, if people are still thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, let’s vote harder and get ourselves out of the predicament!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Nah! I don’t think that’s going to happen. You know, voting harder isn’t going to be the solution with this system we’ve got. No, this whole thing, it’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Alfred Schaefer:</strong> Yes, there’s no voting our way out of this predicament! And we will come out of this predicament, but it’s going to be by rolling up our sleeves and doing what needs to be done!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And once we have understood what the facts are, what the reality is, and who it was who has brought us into the situation, then we will get the job done! Those people who, through treason, through utter treason and lies, brought this situation will no longer be at the helm! They will be dealt with. But they will probably find themselves behind bars, if they’re lucky, or dead, if they’re a little bit less lucky.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This has happened many times in history. This kind of a false trajectory, a trajectory to death. And we will, through our life, generally, does invest everything it can to rectify the situation. And what we are seeing now is a typical healing process. Any organizm, before it begins to heal, it understands what the problem is, and that is the point at which it starts to heal. After it understands! Your individual cells in your body, if you have a cut or something, it’s only after they understand your individual cells what the problem is, that they start to do the right thing to get the cut fixed kind of thing. And that’s what we’re seeing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, we are all beginning to see what the problem is. It’s called a jew problem. You can call it that. And yet often some of our best fighters are actually jews, because they come out of this, they understand their bad instructions that are leading them to do what they do, and that makes them good people to help us get out of the situation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is its all hands on deck right now! And we’re going to get this done, and we’re going to get it right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, indeed! All hands on deck! And, Alfred, we’re almost out of time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Actually, we’re pretty much within a minute of the top.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just want to thank you so much for those stories and for staying up so late or getting up so early, whichever way you want to look at it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I want to thank everyone for tuning in and listening. And please do support the Republic Broadcasting Network. I have heard many other hosts say that, and I am a new host here, and so I should say it, too. This is a cutting edge broadcasting, and we can tell you the truth about things. And I do hear the music coming in, and so I will say goodbye until next week. Thank you so very much. All right. Bye bye.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[58:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[ad]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Adam Deiulio<br />
July 7, 18:17<br />
What a great show thanks Monika and Alfred<br />
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<p>Monika<br />
July 8, 10:54<br />
Thank you so much for tuning in, Adam!<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Jim Rizoli</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Monika Schaefer, Published Her Book: </span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Tue, Jan 3, 2023</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Jim Rizoli, a long-standing relentless promoter of revisionist material concerning the “<em>Holocaust/Holohoax</em>”, talks with Monika Schaefer about her book “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>” that’s just been published by Barnes Review.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Monika details her journey from being an environmentalist in Canada to realizing that 9/11 was a false flag, then to her even bigger awakening that the “<em>Holocaust</em>” is a diabolical lie against the German people.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This led her, with the help of her brother Alfred, to make a short YouTube video with the same title as her later book, that caused her to be arrested in Germany for “<em>Holocaust denial</em>” and having to serve ten months in prison.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">MONIKA SCHAEFER, PUBLISHED HER BOOK: SORRY MOM, I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST, JAN 3, 2023<br />
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<h2 style="text-align: center;">Barnes Review Book Description</h2>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>The Trials &amp; Tribulations of the Schaefer Siblings</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">By Monika Schaefer</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">In the early 1950s, Otto Schaefer and Editha Schmilinsky emigrated from Germany to Canada. They met, fell in love, married and soon had children. I am one of those children. My mother and father were proud of their heritage, though they were told again and again they should not be. Germans were brutes, warmongers and responsible for “<em>the Holocaust.</em>” We children were also taught this in school. It was reiterated in every movie or TV program we saw. I wholeheartedly believed that our people were responsible for the greatest crimes in history.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">I said to my mother, “<em>Why didn’t you, your friends, your folk, your family, why didn’t you do something to stop these bad things from happening? Stop Hitler and stop these death camps? You should have done something! You must have known!</em>”</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">My mother told me she didn’t know. She added that nobody knew. They only learned about it afterwards.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">By the time I understood the nature of the post-war “<em>re-education</em>” program, my parents had passed away. I wrote a cathartic posthumous letter and made a short video entitled “<em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>,” as my research had definitively proven to my satisfaction that the real story about World War II, Adolf Hitler and the events we now know as “<em>the Holocaust</em>” did not match what we were taught in school.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">That video went viral and triggered a surreal odyssey that ended up with my brother Alfred and I spending years in German prisons for our thoughts and words. This book recounts that saga. Softcover, 304 pages, #955.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Hi, everyone. Jim Rizoli here in communist Massachusetts with Monika Schaefer today. Actually, I still get confused, where you’re living.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m in British Columbia, the westernmost province of Canada.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, so she’s in British Columbia. And today we’re going to have a nice discussion because Monika published a book! Isn’t this exciting? And so we’re going to talk about that I’m going to show you the book on the Barnes Review site, and we’re going to talk to her about how she came to the conclusion to write this book. And then I’m going to show you some other things, too, when we do a share screen. So we’ll go from there. How’s that?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Perfect.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay. So, Monika, let’s talk about your book that you wrote. What’s the name of your book?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-33792" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-774x1024.jpg" alt="" width="499" height="660" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-774x1024.jpg 774w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-600x794.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-768x1016.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book.jpg 1005w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 499px) 100vw, 499px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It has the same title as the video that kind of started this whole firestorm going, you could call it. It’s called “<em>Sorry, Mom. I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, very good. All right, I’m going to go to the share screen right now, and I’m going to see if I can pull up the site, which I hope I can do here. Here it is here. Can you see that, Monika?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I do. I see it. Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, so here is the book, and it’s being published by Barnes Review. All right. And that’s the cover of the book.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33793" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book-1024x486.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="304" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book-1024x486.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book-600x285.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book-768x364.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3224-TBR-website-with-book.jpg 1370w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right. If you scroll down a little bit, you’ll see the rest of the cover because it doesn’t show the author on your screen.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Oh, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> There you go and then there’s a little description there. I think that’s what appears on the back cover. And just to let you know, Jim, I don’t actually have the book physically in my hand yet because the mail is very slow. And I’m getting it from the Barnes Review, too, right? Like they published it. It’s not printed here in Canada. It’s printed in the United States. So I’m still awaiting my shipment.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, so this is the site, folks. I’ll put the link on the site of our video today. So it is the Barnes Review, though.</p>
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<p>So if you want the Barnes Review anyway, Barnes Review dot org and get in the products page, book page, you’re going to find a book there. And it’s a very reasonable cost, $25, which is good.</p>
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<p>All right, so now, again, here’s the information I really did know. I guess it’s your family situation here. Maybe you could go over and talk about something on this page here, Monika, about your background and your life, how you came about in life.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, well, my parents, they were born and raised in Germany. They were German people, both parents. And like so many other Germans who left Germany in the late 40s, early fifties. And after that, like many, many Germans, ended up in sort of all parts of the world. You know, Germany was flattened in the war there. There was so much destruction there.</p>
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<p>And my parents immigrated to Canada. Really, it was my dad’s dream, since he was a child, actually, to go to the north, to the Arctic, because he was very interested in the Eskimos, as they were called then. So that was kind of the background to that. That was his lifelong dream, actually.</p>
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<p>So it actually had less to do with with the war and devastation than his lifelong dream to go to the Eskimos in northern Canada. But before he left Germany, he met my mom and fell in love. And so she came, followed him a year later. That was in the early fifties.</p>
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<p>And then they had five children. I’m the fourth of five, and where do you want to go from there?</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, that’s good. We just get kind of a background. So now we’ll move up to where your problems started. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Okay. Think about it. You’re German now, you’re living in the country, in Canada, and you’re German and obviously you had some problems living there, right? Being German.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, you mentioned that you’re going to show the video and so I won’t go into the story because that little six minute video actually tells it in a nutshell.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, well, let’s get to the video right here. Okay. Let me pull it up. It’s on the BitChute channel for people that want to find it. It’s easy to find. Just put Monika Schaefer. It will come up.</p>
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<p>But anyway, here’s the video. Let’s take a look. Let’s see how this works. Okay, so there you are. All right. And I’ll put it up so you can see it. All right, let’s play the video of Monika. What year was this?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> 2016. I did this video, and I was in Germany. I was visiting my brother Alfred, Alfred Schaefer. He has been living, he’s reverse migrated, so he went to Germany and ended up staying there. And I think he went something mid 80s. So he’s been there for decades and so he’s like a reverse immigration, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> All right, so let’s play the <a href="https://katana17.com/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/">video</a> and then we’ll talk about this a little bit later. All right.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33794" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom-1024x545.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom-1024x545.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom-768x409.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3225-Sorry-Mom.jpg 1206w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Hello I’m Monika Shafer. I was born and raised in Canada, first generation Canadian citizen of German heritage. My parents both came from Germany. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and ‘52, respectively. There was a bit of a disconnect between what I experienced in the home life and what I felt outside the home.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I love the rich German traditions and culture that I grew up with and yet, I felt ashamed of my Germanness when I was at school, or outside with my friends. I learned very quickly to hide my heritage. It started in the first week of school. Day one, I wore my beautiful little dirndl, a traditional German dress and on day two, children were taunting me:</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">“Oh you forgot to take off your apron! Ha ha ha!”</span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">As they were running away, or:</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">“Heil Hitler! Ha ha!”</span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Again taunting me.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I didn’t exactly know the meaning of that, but I knew it was not friendly. They were being cruel. That was very clear to me.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I’m reminded, just now, of the plight of the indigenous peoples of North America. They were also made to be ashamed of their culture.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I would like to share with you now a deep regret that I have for something which I would like to apologize to my parents for, but cannot, because they are no longer alive. Many years ago, I reproached my mother. You see I had been thoroughly indoctrinated as we all were. The stories seemed to be all around us, in school, in television in the very air, and the evilness of Adolf Hitler was as deep and diabolic as imaginable.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I said to her, to my mother:</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">“Why didn’t you, your friends, your folk, your family. Why didn’t you do something to stop these bad things from happening! Stop Hitler and stop these death camps! You should have done something! You must have known!”</span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I was really upset, my reproach was bitter. She listened and she paused and very quietly and in a sad tone of voice, she said:</span></p>
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<h3 style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">“We didn’t know about any of that. We just did not know. We did not hear about anything like that!”</span></h3>
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<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Well, now I know why she did not know. It is, because these things did not happen! It is only since the last couple of years, since about 2014, that I have begun to understand that this is the biggest and most pernicious and persistent lie in all of history! Everything has been turned upside down on its head!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Yes, there were detention camps. Nobody denies that there were camps! And yes, the prisoners were kept against their will. Again, nobody denies that. But these were work camps. The prisoners of the camps were being kept as healthy and as well fed as was possible in those terrible war years. They needed to be kept healthy. How else could they perform the work? It was war.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">And so the camps were basically armaments factories. And how much sense does it make, by the way, to have a hospital in a death camp? There were no gas chambers there. The only gas that was used was to get rid of the lice! Lice carried typhus and typhus was a deadly and rampant disease. So they had to delouse the clothing to keep the people healthy.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Now, why would they do that if the goal was to just exterminate the Jews? Makes no sense. That is the “<em>Six Million Lie</em>”, as I know like to call it in a nutshell.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">There is so much more to learn about this and this is all readily available now in 2016 thanks to the digital age with, or without the “<em>thought laws</em>”.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Back to my family. What a relief it is for me to learn that my parents and grandparents were not part of a people that suddenly became monsters overnight! The reproach which I directed at my mother, I wish I could apologize to her for this. I am, in effect, apologizing to her now, to her spirit.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I would like to invite you to find out more by searching the following titles that had such a meaningful and healing influence on me.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 80px;"><span style="color: #800080;">Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, so there you have it. That was very good, Monika. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Okay, so now that started it all.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That did start all, and actually more precisely at minute two and 45 seconds. Two minutes and 45 seconds in, that changed my life, because that’s where I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“These things didn’t happen.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s right.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Simple statement. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> These things didn’t happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, so now let’s get back to your book. Okay, so now when did you start thinking about the book?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, actually, while I was in prison, I think that I thought about it that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Wow, if I ever write a book, this is going to be in it!”</span></h3>
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<p>Or:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“If I ever write a book, that’s going to be in it!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because I was kind of just filled with stories in prison of what I was observing.</p>
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<p>So the book is not about all those other things, stories that I gathered in prison about other prisoners, that was most interesting, I’m telling you. But there is some stuff in the book about my prison experiences.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I guess it was in prison, probably people wrote me letters, too, and some people suggested:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Jeez, you really should be writing a book.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or they would ask me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“So, are you writing your book?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The seed was planted to actually write and to document all this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I had some really good encouragement after I got out to write this book. Have you ever heard of Katana?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah, I don’t know whatever happened to him? Whatever happened to him?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well he’s still active. Okay, so you go to the website, katana17 dot com. I think maybe you could try that out and see. But this fellow, he really supported me and encouraged me, and I would encourage people to go to his website. He does transcripts of videos.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> I remember we used to communicate, and I think Diane did you used to work with him, too, on doing video?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Diane King: The transcription of the interviews with the League of Extraordinary Revisionists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Diane King: And I haven’t heard from him for quite a while.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And it’s a really great service, what he does. That’s his big contribution to our struggle. And he has very good reasons. Somewhere on his website, he kind of gives an introduction of why he feels that transcriptions are important. It’s another way of preserving some really important stuff. And you can actually print off a transcription and you can read it, it’s in hard copy. So that if things go down and the Internet goes down, or what you still have it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, let me bring up his website. Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, that would be great.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Let me see if I can do this. I got to get out of this. Oh, boy. Sometimes it’s hard for me to figure this stuff out. I don’t know if I’m going to be able to do this. I got to make this smaller. Okay, so his site is Katana 17.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Try that out and you should get it. I think it’s com. I should have looked that up. Yeah, you see a bunch of different things there. There you go. There’ an Overview. Try that. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay. Hold on. I’m checking right there. Let’s see if this is it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Because I know he got taken down off the Internet. That was a couple of years ago by now, maybe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Is this him? Yeah, this must be him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33798" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17-1024x599.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="374" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17-1024x599.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17-600x351.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17-768x449.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17-1536x899.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3229-katana17.jpg 1750w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay. So I got the site Katana17 dot com.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:44]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m sure there’s an intro about this blog, and then there’s going to be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33799" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog-1024x796.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="498" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog-1024x796.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog-600x466.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog-768x597.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3230-katana17-About-this-blog.jpg 1284w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Oh, that’s cool! I’ll have to save this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> He’s got a ton of good stuff on his website.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So he basically helped you kind of get into this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, he really helped me starting out and encouraged me all along the way and just supporting me in my endeavor to write a book. He gave me some really good advice of how to go about it. He said things like, don’t worry about the chronology. Just write pieces as they come to you. Later you can put it into an order. Like just some really, really good advice. That’s just one example of some really good advice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what I ended up doing. I would just write bits like this would be like a chapter or whatever, and then just preserve that, and then write another bit just as you get inspired to write about this piece or that piece and then later put it together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah. I mean, look at all these articles!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33800" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231-1024x843.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="527" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231-1024x843.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231-600x494.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231-768x632.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3231.jpg 1246w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> He’s fantastic! So I’m really glad you’re highlighting. There’s some transcripts there. Jim Rizoli interviews Bradley Smith, &#8230; Fred, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33801" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232-1024x947.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="592" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232-1024x947.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232-600x555.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232-768x710.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3232.jpg 1068w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Fred <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Leuchter]</strong></span>. Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So that’s great. Lots of transcripts. There’s the story, Mom transcript, I just saw it going by on your screen. Yeah, he did that right away. Like, as soon as that Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust video. And I mean, Alfred and I were contacted by all kinds of people that we had never heard of before that video kind of went viral, you could say. Jim, that term, video went “<em>viral</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And so he did a transcript of that it’s a very short video, so that he’s done transcripts of really long videos. So that that one would have been relatively fast for him to do. And he did. And then yeah, it’s fantastic what he does.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So all these are just transcripts. You can read them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And I think he does have people that help him out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> This is incredible! People don’t realize how much work goes into doing this. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It’s fantastic! Oh, yeah. It’s a ton of work. A ton of work!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Shout out, a shout out to, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> I’m glad you brought this here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And I received postcards from him in jail, and they were anonymous. Everybody contributes in a different way, and some people, by their own reasons, they are not showing their face, a name like you and I are. But that’s fine. We need all these people on board, like, for whatever reason. Maybe they have small children or maybe this or that, but they contribute. So I put a big shout out to Katana right now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, well, I’m glad, because now people will be able to see his site.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, it’s good to draw attention to good works like that. So thanks for doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay. How many pages is your book?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Just over 300, but that would include, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s a good size.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So there’s a picture section and stuff like that too, photographs. I don’t think it’s a hard read. It’s not a technical book at all. It’s about my experiences, and I want people who are maybe just have their eyes just a little tiny bit open and are willing to perhaps open their eyes more, to draw them in. I feel like I’m just an ordinary person. I’m a normal person. I’m not some big academic, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> You’re not a David Irving.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No, that’s right, I’m not a David Irving. Who is this historian who has spent a lifetime to study history. No, I’m an ordinary person that then figured out, like, everybody has their awakening story. How did they learn about the fact that we are actually being lied to?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> On a massive scale, not just little things. Right? And for me, my the key to My Awakening was 9/11. And it was later it was ten years after 9/11, so really, I’m just quite new to this. And then I went down the proverbial rabbit hole. And I know that you have a different awakening story. Yours started with the immigration thing. Right? And then I find your awakening story super interesting.</p>
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</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, it was weird! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Ernst Zundel. Had to do with, oh, why is this White man being extradited?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> I just couldn’t figure that one out. It was just a fluke! All of a sudden. It’s like, “<em>Ahh!</em>”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly. I’m always interested in people’s awakening stories, and people come to these realizations in all kinds of different ways. Some people through figuring out that the banking system is all totally corrupt. Other people through reading the Bible very carefully. I had people writing me letters, and many of them, it had happened that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, so this book is basically about “<em>My Awakening</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then this journey of this video and the firestorm it caused, and then the aftermath of it. And the aftermath. I mean, it became a very interesting story, and I would not trade that part of my life away for anything! Even though it was very shocking to be suddenly arrested and put into jail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was very shocking. And it was difficult in the beginning, I have to say. But once I let go of certain things that just let go, I came to a good place. This thing keeps falling out of my ear. And then I started to just actually just enjoy it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:46]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, you know what’s weird about it Monika? What’s weird is they came after you! And, like, usually it happens this way. You publish a book and then they come after you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yours is just the opposite. Here you are, just minding your own business and just a normal person just giving an opinion that’s right about something, and look what happened here. What the heck is going on here?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> They put me on the map. Like, nobody knew, who the heck are you? And then all of a sudden, I’m in jail! So I’m a political prisoner.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now when you become a political prisoner, those people in the world who are, &#8230; We network with each other. They, our enemy, likes to make us look like we’re all isolated, we’re all by ourselves, because they want to demoralize us and discourage us. And they try to make us think that we’re just lone nut cases here and there that have these weird, nut-case beliefs!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And no, we talk to each other. We’re connected. So then, of course, my name kind of went around the world. Of course, I didn’t go and knock on the door and want to go to jail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in the end, they kind of did us all a favor, because they highlighted this. And many people did tell me that that little video that you just showed enabled them to, for example, if they’re trying to talk to family members about this history. And many people told me that my video made a difference. Like, then finally they were able to show their mother or their brother or their friend, show them that video and get them to open their eyes just a little bit and maybe get them to look a little bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is my hope that to this book, it’s not about ego. It’s not about me! Yes, it’s my story. But it is about this bigger picture, Jim. It is about what you and I and many, many other people are, it’s like our life mission to awaken people to what is going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> I think people they have to see that’s why I put the video up, because I’m saying now, this woman went to jail because of this video! I mean, you people watching this, if you’re jews, whoever you are, she went to jail. I mean, really!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There are people that murder people that get away with it, that don’t go to jail. They get off, and they murder people. We have people that extort billions of dollars from people. They don’t go to jail. But she went to jail!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I don’t think people understand. I would love to have a discussion with a jew right now, like sitting down, me, a jew, and saying:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What do you think about her going to jail for this video? Do you think that was right?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I would just love to just see what they would say! I know, it just oh, it just infuriates me when these jews can sit back, because some of them will say, :</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, she deserved to go to jail!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah. They’re going to love it. They love it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. And actually, you know what the most bizarre thing that I found of people saying to me, like, in Jasper, in my own hometown?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Look, see, that’s proof that you’re guilty. You went to jail. That’s proof. That proves it. You’re guilty. And this proves that the Holocaust happened because you went to jail for it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Isn’t that kind of a perverse?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:22]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> No, I see there’s a lot of people that go to jail, and they’re innocent, and then you’ll be talking to somebody and they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, the court found him guilty!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, but they were innocent! Well, the court found him guilty!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is a very odd way of thinking! Because, look, just think about it. I actually love the way Alfred describes these laws. They’re just blots of toner on paper. That’s what these laws are. They’re man made. They’re blots of toner on paper. And what is the meaning of them? Now, if these laws, if you are having to legislate a piece of history! This is not about we have what you would call common law, and we have rights, god given rights, and common law. Like things that it makes sense that there are certain things we should not do. So it makes sense that we have laws like, we shouldn’t just go with a sledgehammer and clobber a neighbor over the head for no reason. Right. That’s not a good thing to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, there’s Laws. Those laws make sense. Now, how much sense does it make to make a law about history? History, something happened, or it didn’t happen. This is in the past. These are facts.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they make a law to enshrine their story into, like, what!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Know what’s really strange about it? Here’s what really bothers me about this. Now remember, the courts are there to find out what’s right or wrong, but the courts now have become, it’s called, they take “<em>judicial notice</em>” now, on what they can determine was is historical.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, think about a court system on what is historical. So now when it comes to the Holocaust topic, the first thing they’ll say in a case in Germany is:</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, we can’t talk about the facts of the Holocaust, because we have taken ‘judicial notice’ that the Holocaust is a historical fact, and we cannot question those facts.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this is just hard to believe!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is. They started with that, right, in the Nuremberg Trials, right after World War II, the articles 19 and, 21 of the Nuremberg Trials. There are procedures there. That’s what they said, that if something is self evident, you don’t need evidence to, &#8230; Basically they were giving that judicial notice, which is, &#8230; Okay, so judicial notice, you could give judicial notice about something, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That they could do it with the vaccine. They could say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, the vaccine is safe, it’s been proven safe. We’re taking judicial notice.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They do it. They do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. They do these things which is bizarre and obscene. But I think the original intent of “<em>judicial notice</em>” is something like snow is cold, like something that you don’t have to prove.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Like the earth is round. They’ll say that. We’ll take judicial notice. And it’s like, I don’t really care whether it’s round or flat, it don’t matter to me!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when you’re telling me what to believe, like, we’ll take a judicial notice, there is a God, or there isn’t a God.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, yeah, actually, I would just say those are probably not good examples because they’re not something that is hard. Like maybe judicial notice that this is a cup and we’re just going to agree that this is a cup. Okay? So that would be something that you don’t have to prove that this is a cup and it contains liquid in it. You know what I mean? These are things that you can prove.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas the example you gave, well, those are big disputable items. People are disputing. Some people are staunch atheists and some people not. I have faith, and I’m grateful for that, but it’s like yeah, anyway, that’s another topic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> The court system really shouldn’t be getting into historical information. It’s not their position, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, the point is, like, when you start talking about judicial notice and this is what they’re doing about the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is they prevent evidence from being brought forward. So if we could not present evidence that would support our position or explain how we reached our conclusions, and in fact, my brother Alfred, his prison sentence was lengthened due to the things that he said in our trial in 2018.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he faced the Inquisition again in 2019 for things that he said and did during our trial! And the judge had stopped him many times when he was speaking and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, I got to stop you there. I can just give you a warning that if you continue along those lines of speaking where you’re going right now, I’m just giving you a warning that it’s dangerous ground. We can press new charges.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he would wave them off or he would listen. He’d let the judge finish his sentence and then he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, you are wanting to throw me in jail for 6 million years anyway. And I’m just speaking the truth!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Let’s just go back to your trial. Okay? You’re standing there. Okay. Now, you were accused of what, actually?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, this Paragraph 130. So German Criminal Code, Paragraph 130 is their &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; law, but the word &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; doesn’t even appear in it. But it is the Holocaust denial law.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this whole word “<em>denial</em>” is kind of crazy because you can’t really technically, you can’t deny something that didn’t actually happen. In German that’s actually more clear. The word “<em>leugnen</em>” now is denier, but language has different nuances, and there you cannot deny something that didn’t happen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Ursula Haverbeck, whose name probably many of your viewers will be familiar with, this is this 94 year old woman who was being put back into jail for asking questions, inconvenient questions, about World War II history. Anyway, how they get around that in Germany, because they know that you can’t deny something that didn’t happen, but they read our minds, okay?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they will say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“She knows, or he knows, that the Holocaust happened, and yet she or he denies it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Which that’s how they get around us. So they pretend to read our minds and then call us a liar, or call us like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We’re a denier now, because we know, like Alfred Schaefer knows that the Holocaust happened, but he just is so full of hate that he denies that it happened!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know what I mean? This is how they do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, they wrote an article in the newspaper in the main Zeitung, which is a big newspaper in Germany, about Alfred Schaefer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Now, you’re in court standing there. How long did it take for this case to do?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay, yeah, four months. But over the four month, 200 days. 20 trial days. So you don’t go to the court every day. They’ll have a couple of days here, then the next day, next week or whatever, then they have a break for they go on holidays, whatever. So it took four months, but it was 20 trial days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Okay, but are you in jail at the time?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. So I was in jail for six months before the trial even started!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Oh my goodness!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Because they kept me due to flight risk. So when they arrested me, then I had to go before a judge the next day because they have to bring you before a judge within 24 hours of arresting you to determine what they do with you and I wasn’t even in the jail yet. I was in the prison cell in a police station until they determined that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, they can’t let me go, because if they let me go, I’m going to run away, and I’ll be out of their clutches.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because they knew, okay, I live in Canada, right? So I could just fly back to Canada. And they don’t have these laws here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Let’s just deal with court hours, okay? How many hours do you think they devoted to you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, lots! Some days were shortened because these things, how they go in court. I mean, it’s just unbelievable how much time and money they waste if something didn’t arrive, or some witness didn’t arrive. And yet that was all that was on the agenda, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> And you had to pay a lot, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> But other days were really long. Like other days went beginning to end. Sorry, what was your question?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> No, you had a lawyer, right? Is that what happened?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I did. And I had the lawyer who was also the same lawyer who had been Ursula Haverbeck’s Lawyer, and the same lawyer who was Sylvia Stoltz’s Lawyer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The day that I got arrested, I got arrested in the courthouse, but we were in the public gallery. Somebody spotted me there. I didn’t know that they had a file open on me. Nobody wrote me a nice letter. Neither of my relatives, who basically reported us to the authorities. They didn’t write me a letter saying, yeah, we reported you to the authorities, and that would mean that a file gets opened on you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Now, if you didn’t go to court that day, would they have arrested you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I suppose they could have at the airport, but I got into the country, no problem. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> When you went to the court, to them it was <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, says the spider to the fly.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. We went to the court to watch this trial of Sylvia Stoltz.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this is all very interconnected, all these political dissidents. I just thought, I wanted to meet her. For one thing, she was my hero. And that’s a whole another topic. We could talk at length about that, but just for now, just stay on topic here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was so intensely curious:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“What does a speech crime trial look like?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It did not, &#8230; I mean, people might on the outside say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, that’s pretty stupid to go!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I didn’t think of anything, I really didn’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So here you are, you’re in court watching something else happen, okay? And you’re sitting there, just minding your own business, and then what happens?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:10]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, they called a recess about 40 or 45 minutes into her case that was rolling along. And nobody knew why they called this recess. It was very puzzling because it was just in the middle, for no reason at all, it seemed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then we discovered the reason. They had whispered behind closed doors:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“She’s in the gallery. She’s in the public gallery. Let’s get her now.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then we all step out to the corridors just to talk. There’s a throng of us who are in the public gallery, people who are supporting Sylvia Stoltz, and we’re just talking.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then this woman just swoops over to me, says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“What’s your name?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And just innocently and naively, I just said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, Monika.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I didn’t need to say a word, but I wasn’t thinking of any, &#8230; I didn’t have any suspicions of anything. And then it all changed. Then she drew attention while she’s talking to these three thugs, uniformed police officers, or whatever they were. And:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“That’s her! Arrest her! That’s Monica Schaefer!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh, okay, now I get it. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Oh, my goodness!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> It’s incredible! This is incredible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I’m laughing now, but I wasn’t laughing at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Think about it. You’re in court watching something. You’re getting arrested because of a thought crime!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, it is incredible. Time at that moment slowed down. Everything went in slow motion, and it was an incredible moment. I’ll never forget it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> And then they handcuffed you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> They did. There was a few things that happened first, and then they basically, &#8230; Well, they didn’t handcuff me like this behind my back or anything, but they handcuffed me to the prison ward, or the officer, the police thug.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then I got taken down into the bowels of the courtroom where they have holding cells. They have holding cells in the basement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> What was going through your mind when this was happening?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Oh, my goodness, Jim. Everything went in slow motion. I remember turning my head when they were leading me away and turning my head and seeing the throng of people standing there, like a group of I don’t know, just all very solemn, standing there, watching me go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like almost like they were watching me being taken to the gallows! And everybody just wow. It was very surreal, actually. It’s kind of making me get goosebumps right now or whatever it is just thinking about that moment and then being led away. It was very strange.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So they take you downstairs because you’re in the court now. Right? The courthouse of jail. Same thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. In the basement. Just like in any police station, they’ll have holding cells. So in the court house, they have holding cells. And so I got brought down to a holding cell and put in there. A very tiny, tiny space. There was a wooden bench and a table that’s attached to the wall. But not a nice table. Just a tiny little concrete thing or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. And then I was there for a few hours, and I was kind of counting tiles, and I would pace back and forth. It was like five steps this way. Not even that. Four steps. Maybe three steps.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Were you putting it together in your mind what was going on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh yeah. They didn’t like my video! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I knew that right away!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s it. This is why people have to understand what’s going on here, folks! That someone could be arrested!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Alfred was already on their radar. I knew that. So maybe Alfred should have been more worried about attending.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Was he there with you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. And then, actually, he was advised by my lawyer, who was Sylvia Stoltz’s Lawyer. I think that was who advised me. He said, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[to Alfred]</strong></span>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You better leave now. Don’t hang around.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:15]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> You think they would have arrested him?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No. You know why, Jim? Because he already had some charges laid against him. Yeah, he had court dates coming up, or not even solid court dates, but he had already been given charges.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He had a dream team. Alfred calls it the Dream Team. They were going to put Gert Ittner, Ursula Haverbeck, Sylvia Stoltz, &#8230; No, Henry Hoffmanmeyer was on there, too, and Alfred. Wait a minute, I’ve got one too many there, because there was four of them, I thought. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it was all five of them in court together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Alfred was just like, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Wow! They have no idea what they’re doing. This is a dream team. These are powerhouse players here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then they changed everything when I was in jail. Because now all of a sudden, there’s pressure to do this more quickly. Because this could have dragged out for years and years for them. They got to put dates, but they all live in Germany, and they were just living at home still. They weren’t flight risk because they live there. I was a flight risk because I don’t live there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Alfred was already facing stuff. He’d already had his home raided, and that was because of my video in August of 2016. That was the first home invasion. Home invasion, where they came and they knocked on the door. They didn’t pound the door down. But that was the time when, &#8230; I have to tell this story, because it’s hilarious. And it’s sort of a number of years ago, so even if people had heard it then, they’ve forgotten it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they came at about six or seven in the morning and Alfred was in the shower and just out of the shower, actually, but he was in the bathroom behind the closed door and his wife went to the door. And Alfred is listening and he knows right away:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, these are police officers.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just from what he’s hearing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, you know what he did? He came out, he opened the door. He’s still stark naked, and he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hello, what can I do for you? Is there any way can I help you with anything?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was so fantastic because he didn’t try to hide himself behind a towel. He’s showing, literally, that he has nothing to hide. I thought it was brilliant! And it was quite funny. There was a man and a woman officer, so they quickly, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Get dressed. It’s okay, get dressed first.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a little bit embarrassing for them <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>. But he was just big smile on his face:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Hello, how can I help you?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> They handcuffed him?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No, what they did then, is it was all very polite. They were polite, but they basically then investigated his home and searched his whole space and took stuff, took computers, they took whatever they could find.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Alfred was saying he was so relieved that he had packed his camera equipment and that particular stuff away before that. He didn’t know they were coming. But he always was neat and tidy. And after he had used his video equipment and all that equipment that was associated with that, he would pack it away neat and tidy. They didn’t take that, they didn’t find it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Wow.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Not that he was trying to hide it, they just didn’t find it. Didn’t recognize it for what is all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Was that in your book?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That detail, I just told you? No, but yeah, these are just interesting stories. If I had written all the interesting stories, that would have been like thousands of pages long!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s unbelievable, because really, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It’s true, there are so many interesting stories. Like I was saying to you earlier, just in prison, gathering stories in prison. Oh my goodness! It was just fascinating and entertaining and sometimes funny and sometimes tragic. And it was just really a lot of stories just in prison, a lot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Unbelievable. Now we’ll finish up. But let me just talk about the book. So now you got all your information down, you wrote everything down. Now you said, I’m ready to write a book. So now what was your next step?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, like I was saying earlier, Katana had kind of advised me on how to do this. Just write things, it doesn’t have to be in order, and then later put it in order. And it took a lot longer than I wanted it to take, Jim. I thought, okay, this would be a good project for a year. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> That’s kind of funny. I mean, it’s four years in the making, really, because I got out late 2018, 19, 2021, 22, four years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there were some hiccups along the way and some yeah, some, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[44:55]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So now everything’s done. You got your manuscript, so now you had to decide who’s going to publish it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, and I’m very grateful to the Barnes Review, good folks there, and I encourage people to actually become subscribers to that fantastic publication.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Yeah, my brother Joe gets it, so I don’t have to get it, but we get it. It’s an excellent magazine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It is, yeah, that’s right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> So you got the Barnes Review to do it, and they seem to do an excellent job in publishing your book.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh yeah. They put it together into, like, I haven’t seen it yet in my hand, but I know it, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> No, I understand. Well, that’s a great story. And the reason why I’m talking about the book and Monika is because if there’s other people out there that want to get into publishing a book, it’s good to see that any normal person can publish a book. If you just put your mind, you would get the information out and if you can find the publisher to do it or whatever, however you want to do it. I mean, our books are kind of deal with specific things. It’s not like we’re talking about some topic here, how to grow flowers.</p>
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<p>But, I mean, the biggest part of publishing a book is getting someone who’s going to publish it.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Get somebody to publish and print it. That was another delay. It’s small printer and they had some tragedy happen in their family. So it was a family business, just the printer. Because the Barnes Review doesn’t print. They have a printer, right?</p>
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<p>I mean, they get somebody else to print. So that was another complication that probably delayed it by a couple of months or three, four months more.</p>
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<p>Yeah. It’s getting more and more difficult because the eternal well poisoners of this world, they are really clamping down. But they’re in panic mode. We are winning! They’re in their last throws, and they don’t stop until we stop them.</p>
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<p>So this is, I guess, another message, like, to get out there. But they are on the losing side, really.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, the thing is, we don’t let up. And it has nothing to do with winning a battle. It just has to do with just getting what you have to do, out.</p>
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<p>I mean, that’s how I look at it. I don’t look at winning this war. I look at just let’s get as many people online here to see what the truth is. Let them do it, whatever they want to do with it. But I mean, you can’t let them get away with it. That’s the biggest thing.</p>
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<p>Well, Monika, this has been great. I’m really happy to see that you got the book out there. Hopefully we’ll get people to order it, to read it. If you really want to get into reading good information, especially dealing with your life there and what happened with you, I think it’s going to be great and I hope people take note of it.</p>
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<p>And again, folks that are watching, we can’t let them win. And it doesn’t matter. We still have to fight to the end of whatever the end is! Just keep fighting and fighting! It doesn’t matter.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Never give up! Never give up hope! Never give up. They want us to be hopeless. This is what they try to make us be, living in fear and with hopelessness. That’s what they do to us. But we can never let that happen to us, that we just give up hope. Because then you might as well. Then it’s over, right? If you give up hope, it’s over. And like you say, Jim, keep on going. Don’t give up.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Like I said, no surrender! That’s it.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No surrender! And I like your little motto of “<em>you’re an army of one</em>”, or something like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, that’s the thing. Like, people say to me:</p>
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<p>I’m saying it doesn’t matter! As long as you get one person on your side. You just increased by what, 100%? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> There’s a huge ripple effect. And also, people should understand and know that we are not this isolated little click like Noam Chomsky tried to tell Alfred <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span>! This is in one of his first videos, that’s kind of featured.</p>
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<p>But anyway, we are many. We are many!</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Oh, no. I was thinking about my BitChute channel. I’ve only been on it for five years, but I have like over 2400 videos on BitChute, and I’m getting up to 2 million views on BitChute.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, that’s fantastic.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> And and again, that’s nothing compared to people on YouTube and all this and that. But you got to understand, this is BitChute.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, yeah. No, I want to take my hat off to you, Jim. You have done a huge service to the world, to us, to the good, the truth!</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Well, I just feel that if I can use my video skills and what I do, I’m doing here with you, that’s the least I can do. Because as you get older, you just can’t go out and do stuff anymore. But we all try.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right. And everybody has different skills and ideas.</p>
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<p>So it’s going to be different for different people, what you can do. But everybody can do something. Everybody can do something! This is not a spectator game. You participate and everybody can do something.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Here’s the way they can help you. They can get your book. That helps you. It gets the message out. Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And share it with somebody. Win them over.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33802" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim-1024x527.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="329" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim-1024x527.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim-600x309.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim-768x395.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim-1536x791.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3233-Monika-and-Jim.jpg 1810w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s right. And then take our video we’re doing now. Like, people say, what can I do to help you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Look at I’m not looking for people’s money. I’m just looking get the message of take this video here, send it to people! Get it out to people! Send it to news people!</p>
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<p>There is so much people can do, they don’t even know they can do it. You can get into all the newspapers and find out who the editor is and then send them the link to the stories. Say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You might be interested in this story.”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s all. Just get it out there! Someone might pick up on it. But you’re going to do something. If you don’t do anything, nothing’s going to get done!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the BitChute channels. If you’re looking at other BitChute’s, post it on their channel, especially if it’s related to the topic of censorship or free speech or Germany or jews or whatever. Just say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, here’s a new interview with Monika and Jim dealing with this topic.”</span></h3>
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<p>If you get it on 20 sites, 50 sites, 100 sites, that’s all. If you’re doing this all day, it’s not taking you out of your way to do this. Just put it on their site.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. Another really effective thing, really effective thing is actually leafletting. Like, if you want to create just a small thing that has a few basic facts and then an URL, like a link that they could type into their computer if they want to seek more information. And then actually handing these to people personally, sometimes that is one of the most effective things. That another idea. Just another idea. I like to do that.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> The normies out there that don’t do video, that don’t write, that are at home reading, looking at websites, reading Internet sites. Whatever you’re doing, you have a tremendous ability to get the message out. And that’s all we have to do, get the message out!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people believe me, they’re going to see it. I have people coming across my stuff in the weirdest ways that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I saw it over here. I saw it over there.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, I didn’t even know it was over there.”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, that’s how you’re going to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, Monika. Well, this is great Monika. I really enjoyed this. I mean, I learned a little bit more about what happened with you in court and all that.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, I enjoyed this, too. Thanks so much, Jim. Thank you for doing this.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> And we’ll be talking we’ll be doing another chat with you, me and Diane in the future to catch up on what’s going on and other stuff there too, later.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Connecting the dots, right? Connect the dots.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> That’s right. And that’s what we’re trying to do here. Okay, folks, we’ll look at I want to thank everybody for watching. With me is Monika Schaefer, and we’re out there doing the best we can. We hope you can do the best you can, too, by getting the message out there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, Monika, thank you for being on the show, and we’ll be in touch. We’ll be talking again. Okay?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Bye bye.</p>
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<p><strong>Jim Rizoli:</strong> Take care. Bye now.</p>
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<p>NeverTooLate86+<br />
Immediately ordered the book.<br />
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<p>bilbob7624<br />
i love when Monika is on.<br />
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<p>FogDogma<br />
Me to, Monika is such a good woman with spunk. I love people who tell the truth even when they are being targeted by evil. Their strength is addicting and gives me hope.<br />
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<p>FogDogma<br />
Jim, thanks so much for posting stuff on Monica and her brother. They are so awesome. They both inspire others to keep on keeping on when all hell breaks loose. They are perfect examples of what our people are capable of when we are targeted for extinction. We fight back and won&#8217;t shut up. Love these good people.<br />
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<p>Jeffrey88<br />
Synchronicity. I just ordered two copies. Thank you, Monika!<br />
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<p>DIRTYBOB59<br />
Monika, will you friggin&#8217; MARRY me, please?&#8230; (FTJ!&#8230;)<br />
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<p>FogDogma<br />
If she accepts, you better be good to her. Treat her like a queen.<br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEIFogDogma<br />
he does&#8217;nt have the means to make Monika happy. I do.<br />
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<p>Jeffrey88STRIKER_ZWEI<br />
If she marries me she wouldn&#8217;t have to change her name.<br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEIJeffrey88<br />
if she married me, Monika could always just look into my blue eyes, and know she made the right choice. And I speak fluent German, have German ancestery, and lived there 25 years<br />
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<p>Truth-doesn’t-fear-investigation<br />
I wonder if Monika knows she has so many marriage proposals? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/16.0.1/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEITruth-doesn’t-fear-investigation<br />
Probably thousands if not more. Marriage with Monika automatically gets one Alfred as a brother in law. Seriously, its a win win.<br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEISTRIKER_ZWEI<br />
theres only 3 ladies I know of that I would marry. Monika, Deanna Spingola, and Dr Lorraine Day.<br />
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<p>Cybergun01STRIKER_ZWEI<br />
Those are some fine ladies.. i wish more women had the passion and ability to speak truth as boldly as they do<br />
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<p>SatanicFakeSpace<br />
Great book title!<br />
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<p>jerockdange<br />
Do you guys know who wrote the Old testament Simon Peter Paul you know who these guys are<br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEI<br />
The old testament?<br />
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<p>Gertjan<br />
Christianity is not the religion of Jesus of Nazareth it is a religion invented by Saul of Tarsus who even claimed he was an apostle and yet had never met Jesus face to face. Saul, the jew, saw the light and the ignoratti bought it. Christianity is a religion which makes people into easy slaves for the enemy of all life on Earth; the International Parasite.<br />
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<p>LambofGod1990Gertjan<br />
Misinformed Person. Paul did not teach a Gospel different from Christ&#8217;s Gospel.<br />
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<p>GertjanLambofGod1990<br />
you were there, were you? Have you read the Urantia Book? Paul was a, what would now be called, a jew. The law for the jew is, he must lie, cheat, steal, and even kill goyim. Saul changed his name to Paul so he would not sound so, &#8216;jewish&#8217;. Of course you do know that Jesus despised those creatures, albeit they were not called &#8216;jews&#8217; [show more]<br />
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<p>LambofGod1990Gertjan<br />
Jesus changed the Name of Simon. Does the Urantia Book trace back to Apostolic Times?<br />
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<p>Cybergun01Gertjan<br />
Yet jew subversives have repeatedly tried to undermine the writings of Paul. I wouldn&#8217;t buy into the works of Christopher Jon Bjerknes, Adam Green and others like them.. they are deceived, if not deceivers themselves<br />
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<p>LambofGod1990Cybergun01<br />
The two you mentioned seem to believe that the God of the Babylonian Talmud is the same God Jesus calls Father in the Gospels. The Christian God whom Jesus calls Father in the Gospels is not a Transgender Diety who condones the Subjugation, Extortion and the Eventual Elimination of all Gentiles. Bolshevik Jews killed over 70 Million Eastern Europeans including Millions more in China. Mao was funded by Jew Bankers. [show less]<br />
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<p>jerockdange<br />
And because of your judeo-christian beliefs you&#8217;ve created a ruling class that cannot be criticized<br />
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<p>bucybeen@gmail.com<br />
who are you addressing ,?<br />
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<p>Truth-doesn’t-fear-investigation<br />
Go away faggot<br />
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<p>LambofGod1990<br />
JudeoChristianity is a Jewish Ploy to make Zionism more palatable to Christians. The Jews hate Jesus with a Passion. Ben Shapiro pushes JudeoChristian nonsense.<br />
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<p>309-b<br />
&#8230;. great news, &#8230; Monica and Alfred have been leaders in debunking these Jewish lies, &#8230; carrying on the tradition of the great Ernest Zundel, &#8230;<br />
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<p>Gertjan<br />
Ernst Zundel.<br />
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<p>Known_Crocodilan<br />
The original intent of Jew-dicial notice is not &#8220;hey, snow is cold&#8221;. Rather, its original intent is a tool of Jewish lies and control. Including and not limited to: the earth is a globe, six million Jews were exterminated in gas chambers, the vaccine is safe, virology is real, etc&#8230;<br />
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<p>STRIKER_ZWEI<br />
Jim said, &#8220;any normal person can publish a book&#8221; Jim, Monika is not a normal person, she is a treasure, and super special.<br />
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<p>Open Our Eyes Jesus<br />
Article 21 of the Statutes at Nuremberg<br />
&#8221; The Nuremberg (military) Tribunal shall NOT require PROOF of the facts<br />
LET THAT SINK IN &#8211; first time in recorded HISTORY- judges didn&#8217;t require actual documentary &#8220;proof&#8221; to come to (((their))) verdict &#8211; that is what came out of Communist controlled &#8220;Nuremberg.&#8221; of common knowledge, but shall take judicial notice thereof &#8221;<br />
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<p>Wayne101062<br />
And they were not allowed an appeal. What kind of court is that.<br />
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<p>Open Our Eyes JesusWayne101062<br />
It&#8217;s a Kosher controlled Communist Court. Tragically the Germans were NEVER allowed to actually present the evidence to prove their innocence of the charges made against them at &#8220;Nuremberg&#8221;. Germany&#8217;s crime was they LOST WW II and have been enslaved ever since by the ruling global Jewish/Zionist Oligarchy. Allied winners wrote how the History is &#8220;remembered&#8221;.<br />
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<p>Open Our Eyes Jesus<br />
&#8221; It is ERROR which needs the support of government.<br />
TRUTH can stand on its own &#8221;<br />
&#8211; Thomas Jefferson, Third President of U.S.A<br />
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<p>Open Our Eyes Jesus<br />
Jefferson also said :<br />
&#8221; The effect of government coercion is :<br />
to make one half the people fools<br />
and the other half hypocrites,<br />
and to support roguery and error all over the earth&#8221; [show less]<br />
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<p>Jim Rizoli<br />
(dkk) &#8220;The truth needs no laws, the official holocaust narrative simply is not true&#8230; therefore, it is being used to enslave and manipulate humanity, ESPECIALLY the German nation.&#8221; Mrs. Ursula Haverbeck<br />
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<p>Calf89<br />
What a amazing Lady.<br />
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<p>Speidini3784<br />
Going to jail for words… why have we let the jooz get this far! Monika you are a very brave woman, thanks<br />
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<p>Jim Rizoli<br />
(dkk) The &#8216;fix is in&#8217;. They had us with the post-WWII nonsense proliferated since then.<br />
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<p>Calf89<br />
You have Jim thanks your great guy my friend thanks again for all you do.<br />
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<p>Fredziffle108<br />
Jim<br />
Here is Miles Power responding to Germar&#8217;s book<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="A Review of The Chemistry of Auschwitz" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wqlgAtlRY2E?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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<p>Synrgy77<br />
Power is full of shit, dodging and deception. Most of his arguments were already adressed by Holocaust believer and chemist Richard Green by 2000 and brightly refuted by Rudolf with empirical proofs.<br />
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<p>Jim Rizoli<br />
(dkk) always a pleasure, &#8220;Fred&#8221;!<br />
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<p>JustAintThatWay<br />
T/y the notification &amp; link; just ordered a copy.<br />
Alfred &amp; Monika strong &amp; handsome/beautiful and their courage an inspiration to all.<br />
Again. t/y for this info.<br />
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<p>JB61<br />
Hey Monika I caught you on RBN<br />
Yesterday with Giuseppe and Blackbird 9, John Friend and Malicus Scott https://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/rbns-2023-new-years-day-special-w-blackbird9-giuseppe/ Hour 1</p>
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<p><iframe loading="lazy" class="wp-embedded-content" sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted"  title="&#8220;RBN’s 2023 New Years Day Special w/ Blackbird9 &#038; Giuseppe Hour 2&#8221; &#8212; Republic Broadcasting Network" src="https://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/rbns-2023-new-years-day-special-w-blackbird9-giuseppe-hour-2/embed/#?secret=5GwFNiG4Mf#?secret=oj2Isz2u6b" data-secret="oj2Isz2u6b" width="600" height="338" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><br />
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<p>Danthefnman187<br />
I sure wish all thought criminals are as elegant, and pleasant. Great job Jim!<br />
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<p>Gertjan<br />
In my opinion the Great Man, Adolf Hitler was much too kind and his friends also were so inclined. There never was any plan to exterminate the international pest but simply relocate it to some other place, no different than 1030 other places had done before Germany attempted to shake off the parasite. Now let&#8217;s make Planet Earth the 1031st place. Hail Victory!<br />
Congratulations Monika. Well done. [show less]<br />
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<p>Gertjan<br />
The whims of politicians does not the law make. Read Frederick Bastiat, The Law and learn the truth about this very important subject which has been usurped by the parasite.<br />
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<p>Gertjan<br />
Good interview, Jim. Well done. Unlike certain interviewers you let your guest talk.<br />
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<p>scotty<br />
JIM it would be great to see a video of you tearing apart this guys stupid video review which is apparently backed by the JEWtube police: found thru Fredziffle108 comment Jim<br />
Here is Miles Power responding to Germar&#8217;s book<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="A Review of The Chemistry of Auschwitz" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wqlgAtlRY2E?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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<p>scotty<br />
JIM is extraordinarily talented as an interviewer, he asks pertinent clear concise questions and listens carefully to responses and answers and stays focused. This is actually rare in many high paid professionals.<br />
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<p>Leonieblah<br />
Great video. Love Monika<br />
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<p>JohnKrakauer<br />
going to buy the book<br />
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<p>Wayne101062<br />
You will not see this book on the New York Times bestseller list. But is deserves to be there.<br />
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<p>Lastboyscout<br />
The fact that her own family members reported her is disgusting and a sign of just how broken the German people really are<br />
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<p>C-ammo<br />
Can’t wait for Monikas sequel,<br />
“Sorry Jews, you were wrong about the Holocau$t”.<br />
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<p>Reasonable White Guy<br />
When I was in high school and junior high, part of our curriculum was a state mandated unit on the holocaust. I went through these units for at least a couple years in various history and social studies classes. My awakening, had to do with how this subject was approached and taught. The Jewish kids in the class were generally put [show more]<br />
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<p>Kathleen Dudley<br />
Fantastic!<br />
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<p>Kathleen Dudley<br />
Thank you both for opening this up to encourage, expose and excite us about what is possible! You are both remarkable.<br />
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<p>Non Fake News<br />
Always enjoy listening to Monika. Brave woman.<br />
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<p>Freeze Peach<br />
Splendid everything and thanks Jim, thank you Monika. God bless.<br />
GOTT MIT UNS.<br />
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<p>LambofGod1990<br />
One thing I could not make sense of was the genuine Joy the German People had when attending Hitler&#8217;s Speeches. It turns out Hitler was not the Monster we have been led to believe. Stalin was actually a Mass Murderer who Straved and Killed Millions of his fellow Human Beings.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Brian Ruhe</strong> from “<strong><em>The Brian Ruhe Show</em></strong>” interviews (Nov 26, 2018) <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> in her second appearance, exactly one month since being released from a German prison. She served 10 months for a six-minute YouTube video, in which she gave a belated apology to her German mother for berating her for not doing something about the “<em>Holocaust</em>“, that Monika has since realized, factually never happened.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss the trial in more detail, for example, how they had to fight to get the microphones turned on so that everyone could hear what was going on. How Alfred fought and succeeded in having his videos shown in full.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">More importantly, Monika discusses the absurdity and injustice of the trial system, in that by attempting to defend and explain why she made her video, she runs the very real risk of being charged again for the same thought crime that she is already on trial for! That is the reason why she was advised to flee Germany, using trains, etc., as soon as she was released.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Welcome to the Brian Ruhe Show. It’s November 26, 2018. It’s now one month since Monika Schaefer’s been in the free world! Since she left prison in Germany for the hate crime of “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial. So she’s back on the show for a second time. It’s a real honor to have you back Monika. How are you doing today?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Hello Brian! Nice to be back with you. Thank you so much. Yes, today is exactly one month since the last day of the trial and the verdict, which did set me “<em>free</em>”. And I’m glad you put that in quotation marks. Time served, so it was ten months. It was just under ten months, but they said ten months and now you go free. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, of course, Alfred, unfortunately, is still in jail and will be for quite some time. They gave him thirty eight months, so just over three years. And yeah, we can talk about that some more in the show, too. About how people can support him, and write letters, and that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But anyway, yeah, so it’s been one month! It seems like a lot longer ago. I have to say. “<em>time</em>” has a way of shrinking and expanding on us depending on what we’re doing! And interestingly the way I feel now about this past month, one month going by, is kind of like my first month in jail! How I felt in terms of the time, just crawling by, like it was just this interminably long amount of time, that first month. And then time would speed up, like at the end it was shocking how fast time went by in prison! And now, here I am! You know, I was set free and so much has happened over this past month, and so many impressions, and so many emotional highs and lows, and just going through a lot.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I talked last time with you about escaping out of Germany and out of Europe, needing to do that, because, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Eight trains you said to get out of the country!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, eight trains and then an airplane obviously, to get over the ocean. And I needed to do that, because I did new crimes just in trying to defend myself! That’s the crazy thing about if you’re a “<em>thought criminal</em>” in Germany, and you go through the court system, you cannot actually defend yourself, or explain how you reached your conclusions without doing new crime! And I think I talked about that at length last time, so I won’t go into that. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Today I thought I would talk more about the details of what did happen in the trial, not just the fact that it was a dark ages almost pseudo secret trial. We talked about that last time, quite a bit. Just all those aspects about problems with the microphones and people not being able to take notes for a while. And not being recorded. No transcript of the trial, that kind of thing. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, by the way, there was one aspect of that I did want to update, or make a correction on., because we didn’t quite complete the narrative. And that was about the mics.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They did get turned on, but it took a while, right? But that first day we were struggling with that, and I think it was maybe half a day in, and finally did get the mics turned on., because I saw that in the feedback, or the comments, that people who were left with the impression that they never did get turned on. That’s not quite true. We did get them to turn them on. But it was only after, you know, I had talked about how I stood up and just said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Hey! This is either a public trial, or it’s not a public trial, and they’re just there for show! If you don’t care that the public can hear.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">All those things did not faze the judge. He was not fazed by any of that until, in my exasperation, I just kind of muttered, almost as an afterthought, I muttered under my breath:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, I can’t hear that well, anymore.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that did the trick! At that point he suddenly realized:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh okay, we might be a Inquisition here, or it might be a kangaroo court, but we still have to have some semblance, &#8230;</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[her telephone starts ringing]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Oh dear, my telephones going! I’m gonna just bury that back here and put a pillow on it! Just a sec. Yeah. Sorry about that. I didn’t think of that before. I should have done that before and buried that. But anyway.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then the judge decided:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Okay the defendant at least has to hear what’s going on, right?</em>” <span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s when they decided, yeah, they’ll turn on the mics. It was only when I said I couldn’t hear that well, anymore.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, so you needed to hear, of course.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They had to afford us that much, that the defendant herself has to be able to hear what’s going on!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And that took quite a while to get that. But yeah, so just what happened during the trial? People are probably curious, and I know there were some reports, and the <em><strong>Barnes Review</strong></em> put out reports, and from Lady Michele Renouf who wrote about it, that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, but a lot of people felt like there was just this darkness about what actually went on in the trials. So I’ll just give a little bit of a summation of what did go on, why it took so long, 20 days in total.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was basically a giant education for anybody who was there.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Brian holds up the latest <em>Barnes Review</em> with an article on the trial]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Oh my goodness! Wow!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> This is a current issue of the Barnes Review and you’re in it. This is the current issue. Yeah Lady Michele Renouf’s write up is in here. Yeah I could just show the audience. Here it is “<strong><em>History and Free Speech Holocausted in Germany</em></strong>”. This is a current issue. This is the write up about you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh fantastic!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I must get that!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah,</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Okay, well I’ll deal with that later. So thanks Brian for showing that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was basically a giant education, so that nobody who was in that courtroom could say afterwards:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>We just didn’t know! We just didn’t understand!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, at first they were just going to show little snippets, little tiny portions, of the offending parts of the videos. There were multiple charges against Alfred, there were multiple charges against me, more against Alfred. He’s created more videos. And so they would outline, you know, minute three, or minute ten, out of this video, this kind of thing. And they’d only scheduled four days at first for the trial, and they just thought they’d show these little offending bits, and:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>They broke the law! And this is what the law says and these are ‘inciting hatred’ and riling people up.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And whatnot. And not show them in their entirety. And then they would be done with it, and bingo, lock them away!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But Alfred was very strategic, and it was brilliant how he forced them to show the videos in their entirety, so that they would be in context. Sort of like reading a book from front to back, instead of just reading a little paragraph here, and a little paragraph there. So you take everything out of context.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> He did he manage to convince the judge to do that? Because I know he did long videos, he’s playing.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. He just simply did not answer questions that the judge was asking him, which pertain to the technicality of when, and where, did you produce these, or push the button to send it out into the internet? That kind of thing. And those were the questions that they were very, very interested in. They, of course, are not interested in the contents pertaining to reality, or history. They don’t want to know those things, in fact, they would deny us the opportunity to bring this kind of evidence into the court, over, and over, again. No, they’re more interested in:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>When did you push that button, and push that send? And where were you exactly? And what was the date? And what was the minute and second of when it was released to the world?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this kind of thing, because that then can be used to show:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Right? So Alfred just simply refused to answer those questions. He just said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, I’m not gonna answer that. We have to see the whole video. I’m not gonna answer that, we have to see the whole video!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Eventually we won that, or he won that. And the judge just decided:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Yep! We’ll see the videos.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So we saw a lot of videos. And then, of course, most of these are in English and they needed to be translated. So they were translated into German and those translations were read out. So those were prepared, they weren’t just simultaneous translations. No, they were prepared. We would see the video in its entirety, and then hear the translation. And those, of course, since they are on paper, they are on the record. Those are now, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, so it is part of the record. That’s good.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. That is good. So that was a good chunk of time taken up by the watching of those videos. But after each video there would be questions and answers. An opportunity for all of us who wanted could speak. Like whether it was Alfred, or his lawyer, or me, or my lawyer, or the prosecutor. Everybody had a chance to speak. So most of, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> I remember in your letters, you said there’s a bit more mutual respect between Alfred and the judge, you know, when they’re going through all these videos. Sort of like teaching them, explaining. I mean, he said those were a real education for the court.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, that’s how we perceived it. They evidently, &#8230; I mean, we knew this wasn’t going to go, &#8230; They were quite likely not going to do us a personal favor. Alfred knows that. We all knew that. However, I mean, we’re doing this for all of us, our enlightenment, for truth. This is just really important historically to, hear it is!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So then a lot of the time, also, was taken up by these motions for evidence, or I don’t know what you would call it in English. It was “<em>xxx</em>”. So these documents, some of them were quite thick, to be read in court. Now the judge didn’t always allow these to be read, because he said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But this was ridiculous! There were more days scheduled! It has to take as long as it has to take. But so, when they were not read out loud, the judges were supposed to read these on their own, and the prosecutors too. And that was the sort of their promise, or their covenant, or whatever, that they would say. Yes, that we will take these for our own reading. But then it doesn’t go to the public, nobody hears it. And then there’s the opportunity for the press that’s there, you know, the mainstream press. I mean, they could just interpret these things however they want, because it’s not actually out there for the public to hear, what, is in it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then you only hear the interpretation of the prosecutor afterwards, and in the final judgement, of course, the judge, &#8230; But, some of these things did get read out loud. And to give you an example what those would be, one of the accusations against Alfred was this term that he used, “<em>parasite</em>”, okay. And they accused him “<em>that’s hatred</em>”. Well no! He wanted to get a biologist, an expert in to describe exactly what that means.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> What a parasite is! If it’s realistic, if it’s straightforward and honest, how could you call it hate?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> In a very biological sense, what is a parasitic relationship with a host? Okay. So that kind of request for expertise. Or a request for an historian to verify that the things that Alfred is saying, either in the videos, or in these long documents, these motions for evidence. </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The quotes that are being given by, you know, people who want to do away with us, the White race, for example. So quotes by Noel Ignatieff, or these books, you know, the <strong>Hooton Plan</strong>, or the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, or Kaufman, you know, Theodore Kaufman, or countless books, or papers. Or, you know, positions that have been taken and are widely documented and they’re known of but Alfred was requesting that there be an expert historian to verify that these are actually out there in the public record.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-Hooton-Plan-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22155" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-Hooton-Plan-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="646" height="1022" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-Hooton-Plan-COVER.jpg 646w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-Hooton-Plan-COVER-600x949.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 646px) 100vw, 646px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/20/ursula-haverbeck-the-hooton-plan-and-the-migrant-crisis-transcript/" rel="next">Ursula Haverbeck – The Hooton Plan and the Migrant Crisis — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this 28 minute video, recorded in September 2015, <strong>Ursula Haverbeck</strong>, a German woman who lived through WWII discusses how the “<em>migrant</em>” invasion is part of larger plan to destroy Germany and is a continuation of the WW II era <strong>Hooton Plan</strong>  (and similar schemes) created by organized jewry as part of their larger goal of world domination, aka, the Jew World Order  —  KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That these things have been said by these people. So that it’s not us making it up. It’s not us just making up things. That, you know, whether the jewish people are saying this about us, or we’re saying this about them, or whatever. No! If we’re quoting somebody else, we want to know that was actually what they said! So these kind of requests. But, of course, those were all dismissed, put aside.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Also at towards the end of the trial my lawyer did make a request for Fred Leuchter to appear in court. Now not in person, because that would be very dangerous for him to come to Germany. He’d end up in the gulag, too! But — via videoconferencing — to bring him back on, because his evidence had been used in the videos, and in the written submissions. And that was also dismissed, pushed aside.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No! We don’t need him to come!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So anything that we requested to verify our positions, the things that they are using against us, to incarcerate us, to call us the “<em>haters</em>”, but we’re just presenting it to the world. But any of these things that we wanted to prove and show, they just dismissed it!</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Nope! No! No! You guys are bad! You’re the haters! We don’t like what you’re saying and full of your hatred! And your undermining confidence in the justice system!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:06]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That is in each charge. Then they say you are basically “<em>inciting hatred</em>” and:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Undermining confidence in the justice system!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> What’s wrong with undermining confidence in the justice system, or a political system? If you don’t have confidence in it, that’s freedom of speech! Right? Like criticizing the government, anyone can do that, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, not only that, isn’t in an irony that these things they’re doing to us, like raiding Alfred’s home three times, over the past three years, and taking all his equipment, and whatnot. And then if you point that out:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh! You’re undermining confidence!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well aren’t they just undermining confidence in the justice system by locking people away for freedom of expression, and stealing their equipment from their homes? And, you know, appearing any time of night, or day. I mean, they can come in the middle of night. In those cases they came early morning. But they’re the ones doing all these things to undermine our confidence!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s a double standard!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And then they tell us we’re undermining the confidence in the system! Right. So yeah.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I wanted to also talk about some of the specific points that I was charged on, and they’re just crazy! And I talked about these during the “<em>last word</em>”, you know, the final, what do you call it? When I gave the last word, four hour speech that I gave.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[final words from the defendant at the end of the trial]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So one of the charges against me originally, and actually this one, I think, it was dropped in the end, but I don’t have my legal, all the legal documents with me here. Hopefully they will be sent to me. I wasn’t able to take everything along with me when I fled quickly. I couldn’t fit it all on my suitcase! But the CODOH video that was produced, in which we answer the question:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Why do you support open debate on the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”?”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! I remember that when you made it. Yeah.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-CODOH-logo.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22156" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-CODOH-logo.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="202" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-CODOH-logo.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-CODOH-logo-600x189.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, it’s a less than four minute video, which we just sent sound clips, we didn’t actually produce that one. It was produced in the States, and I don’t have to go further with that. But it’s CODOH, the <strong>Committee for Open Debate on the “<em>Holocaust</em>”</strong>. And this little video, it just turned out really great, I think. Because really, we’re just answering this question, that if you substituted that “<em>H</em>” word with any other word, anything else, everybody would say:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, of course, you should be able to debate that! Of course, you should be able to talk about these things! Why wouldn’t you?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, this is really the only historical event that is legislated by law. That there’s one version of it, and you’re not allowed to talk about it. But so, this is just answering the question:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Why do you support open debate on this taboo subject?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so I was delighted actually, that if they were going to charge us, and charge me at all, well good that they included that one in there. Because it just is one of these things that demonstrates incredibly well how they are defending and supporting lies! I mean, really! I don’t think you can watch that video without shaking your head and saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well that’s logical! Of course, you should be able to debate it!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We don’t even talk about things happening, or not happening. We’re just saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Yeah, we should be able to discuss it!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah just to discuss it. Ask questions about it.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That’s not allowed! That’s not allowed! And they just proved it by putting that in the charges.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Okay, another one that they charged me with, that which they definitely kept in, and I was awarded several months of incarceration, you know, verdict for. Was the video that was with Gerd Ittner, who just was released not that long ago from prison, another prison sentence.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22157" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="606" height="961" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER.jpg 606w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-600x951.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 606px) 100vw, 606px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/" rel="next">Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Gerd Ittner and Alfred, they had this video called “<em>Dissidents Speak Out</em>” </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[“<em>A Dissident Speaking Out — Gerhard Ittner</em>”]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">and they had a version in German and a version in English. And I think the English version was entitled “<em>Dissidents Speak Out</em>”. In German it was “<em>Dissidenten sprechen sich aus</em>”. And the German version of my offending video the “<em>Sorry Mom</em>” video, the German version in Germany disappeared very quickly, because they censor things like crazy. And so they had wanted, like Gerd Ittner, wanted that video to show up more — and mine’s just short, right, that’s six minutes and theirs was already half an hour, so to add six minutes to their half hour video that was just a little addition — and so they put that one in there, mine, into their video, into the dissidents video. And I didn’t know about it, but I was charged with having collaborated to do this!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! You weren’t aware of it?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No! I wasn’t aware of it until afterwards. Now it’s irrelevant what I think about the idea. I don’t even need to comment on that. Do I think that was good that they did that, or not, good? It’s irrelevant! But the relevant part is that they charged me! That I spent time in jail for having participated in doing that! You know, to — what’s the word — to “<em>conspire</em>” with them to do that. Conspire, that’s the word I was actually wanting to use. Because, they keep talking about “<em>conspiracies</em>”! And “<em>conspiracy theories</em>” and all this! Making it sound like that’s some kind of a, like crazy thing!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, like you’re a nut!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, yeah! Anyway, so I made it very, very clear, as did my lawyer. And we were able to show that I had no foreknowledge, I had no knowledge of them doing this, to put that video in there. But they kept it in there, and, you know, that was part of my verdict.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> So were you out of prison at the time? When they put it in.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Of course! Of course. So this is all, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> So there was no way to discuss it, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> This is just the verdict on me, because I did get the verdict of guilty. Just, because I was released, doesn’t mean I got “<em>not guilty</em>”. I got “<em>guilty</em>”, but ten months prison sentence. And I had already served it, so then they released me. But that charge remained. So I got a guilty verdict on that charge, even though I was able to prove, really, &#8230; I mean, I guess I don’t know how does one prove something like that? :</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Did know about it in advance?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they are going to read your mind? But I was able to make a strong case for the fact that I had no knowledge about, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> What about, they know your letters in prison. It wasn’t in your letters, right, they we’re doing this? So isn’t that evidence of nothing, you didn’t know? You just you didn’t have much communication, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No. That video was produced like a couple of years ago! So it’s not produced while I was in prison, right?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Right okay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But anyway, I made an analogy in the “<em>last words</em>”. I said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Okay, let’s say we go out into the woods and I’m gonna instruct people on how to build a fire out in the woods, you know, using the lichen off the tree. And just making a fire where you don’t have a blowtorch, you know. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong> </span>You might just have a match, if that. And I teach people how to make a fire on a survival course. And so everybody’s happy. And then we come back. And then maybe a month later there’s a case of arson. Somebody burnt down a building. And then they find out, oh it was somebody that happened to go on that survival course and learned how to make a fire from Monika Schaefer! Oh we’re gonna charge Monika Schaefer with that arson!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. Good analogy.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> You know, it’s kind of crazy! Like they’re making some kind of a weird connection that makes no sense. And maybe that’s not even a good analogy, because that was a destructive act, and that I don’t want to make that a comparison with putting that video into the “<em>Dissident</em>” video, at all! But just the logic, the step of logic, just doesn’t exist, it’s crazy! But this is the kind of thing they were doing. And that’s why I was always saying with delight to my friends in prison:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Gee, every day they’re proving to us how truth, and justice, and right, and righteousness, lies on our side, and they’re defending lies!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So. Anyway. One of the things that they did also do, they did stop some letters going in and going out, and they stopped those letters, or sometimes they just photocopied them, and then still sent them onwards. But they read one of my letters in court. One letter that I had written to somebody, and it was in German this letter. And at first I was quite nervous. And my lawyer had wanted to stop them from doing that, because he hadn’t seen it. And his argument was:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>It’s always the right the right of the defense to see the evidence before it’s brought out into the court.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No. No. Let them read it.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I was quite confident, even though I didn’t remember specifically what I’d put into that letter, you know, because I wrote so many letters. But I was quite confident that it should be suitable for reading in court. But still, you get nervous, you know, here they are going to read this letter in court and it’s supposed to be very incriminating!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway I was quite delighted after they read it. And I did translate it, and I want to read that now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Very good. Yeah, let’s hear it! Thanks.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So this was read out in the court, in the Inquisition of the Schaefers.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:00]</strong></span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Dear Doctor R.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ll just call him that to protect his identity.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Thank you for your letter dated July 15th, which I received July 27th. You are not alone in thinking about the witch persecutions. I have often thought of them. I am very grateful that there is no death penalty, at this point, in time, because we both know what would then be. One thing occurs to me, just like today there are many helpers, or quislings, or followers.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I wasn’t sure of the English word to use here, “<em>Shabbat goy</em>”, maybe.</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Just like today, there are many “</em><em>Shabbat goy</em>” who firmly believe they are doing good when they betray people who are actually telling the truth. I would think it was that the same back then. It is likely that people sometimes betrayed as “<em>witches</em>”, their own relatives and believed they were doing good. I suspect there were a lot of lies, deceptions, indoctrination, and brainwashing at that time, as well. And that fear played a large role. Or, I probably know far too little about the history.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>I don’t think that the letters written to me, as per your concern, harm me, more than help me. The authorities have to catch on eventually, that the more they just lock people up simply for saying inconvenient things, or asking questions, the more it rattles the people awake out there. At some point it just gets to be too much. The servants of the system just don’t know when to stop.</em></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>Sure, sometimes letters in both directions are confiscated, copied, either forwarded, or not, used as evidence against me, but I have to say it sometimes has very little to do with contents regarding history. They are not interested in history, and truth! Only whether we bumped up against some thought control law, or pushed a button in the Internet. That’s what I mean.</em></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>The law itself is so intangible and unclear. Well, it has to be, for their purpose of serving a regime built on lies. The whole thing makes me think of Kafka and the book, or the film, 1984 by George Orwell. When I read 1984, back in the 70s, I never could have imagined that I would one day find myself in the middle of that book, &#8230;</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then I wrote a little bit about stamps, which is now irrelevant. And then I continued:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>In the meantime the trial continues. Maybe I’ll be out of here soon see, dot, dot, dot.</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I signed off.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, that was a letter that they read out loud. And I’m telling you when they finished reading that I just about jumped up and down for joy, because I was proud of that letter! You know? I mean, I thought:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Maybe they’re on my side?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It made me think;</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Maybe?</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That like, there’s there are two main judges and two lay judges. And the one who was tasked with going through the mail, was the one of the main judges, but not the head judge. You know, it was the woman. And at first it was that prosecutor who was reading all the mail. And they got way behind, and they couldn’t handle it anymore! And they were just complaining, that’s all they were doing anymore, is reading this mail for Monika Schaefer! And they were frustrated.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, they finally passed it off to the judge, and she was reading all the mail. And she just looked so friendly, I have to say. I just thought:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>She’s on my side! That letter was in my favor, I thought.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But evidently not! For their final result, the verdict — especially when the head judge was saying at the very end:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Every day we proved what haters we were!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">My goodness!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, what really stuck with me, the judge was saying:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>It doesn’t matter whether the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” happened, or not. What matters is that it’s illegal in Germany to deny it!”</p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That was the judge for the Ernst Zündel case — just to be clear. I was making comparison in our last show. About how our judge handled it and how that judge handled it quite differently. Right?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like our judge never said anything of that sort, and did not let on at all that he might have realized that, very same thing.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22158" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg" alt="" width="825" height="1007" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg 825w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article-600x732.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article-768x937.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 825px) 100vw, 825px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Okay. Yeah I misunderstood that, yeah.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That was the <strong>Ernst Zündel</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Trial]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">, at the end of that. And I thought that was pretty interesting actually, because it makes it clear that judge understood.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. It would be huge admission for a judge to say that. It’s good that he said that at the Zundel trial.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Some people make the commentary that was actually quite risky for that judge to have said that. But then, of course, he slapped on the maximum sentence, five years, for Ernst Zündel. So he still, you know, did that. But just by making that admission, just to say that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>It doesn’t matter if it happened, or not, and what matters is that it’s against the law to question it, and you broke the law.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But no, our judge didn’t do that at all. No! No, our judge was actually, well the head judge, the one who then spoke, you know, sort of like a chairman. Oh my goodness! No you didn’t get that impression at all!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I know partway through, after that first wild week when things were just a “<em>gong show</em>”, there. After that it settled down a bit and all the videos were being shown, and then the question/answer and all that. And that’s when Alfred made the comment that he thought there was this mutual respect developing between them. And Alfred is the eternal optimist! Who really does have this positive outlook, thinking, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>These people, they will know, and they will all learn, and they will understand it. And at some point they’re going to turn. And turn around and to come over to our side. To do the right thing!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Alfred has that huge, you know, he just radiates that optimism too, which gives him the strength too, to carry on! And it’s wonderful! Like that is an infectious and wonderful energy that he has. To have that outlook!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, I can see that in his videos, as well. But I guess it didn’t pan out that way. You know, others were responding to that.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But at some point it will happen! And then it’s just going to be this domino and avalanche effect! That somebody, some judge is just going to be courageous enough to do that, even if it means that they themselves suffer some dire consequences.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22159" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="670" height="1062" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg 670w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER-600x951.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER-646x1024.jpg 646w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/30/ursula-haverbeck-the-greatest-problem-of-our-time-transcript/" rel="next">Ursula Haverbeck “The Greatest Problem of Our Time” — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think that it has happened in some forms, or other, in Germany. Like I can’t remember the specifics, but there was some case that was going on and it wasn’t exactly like ours. But people in all these positions, they know what’s going on. At some point that dream, that prophetic dream, that <strong>Ursula Haverbeck</strong> had, while in prison already. I don’t know if you heard about that dream? But it was this wonderful prophetic dream in which they, all these military type people, and the jail type people, the inquisitors, the judges, they, &#8230; Somebody just at some point said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I’m not going to participate in this anymore!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in her dream there was torture going on, and all this thing. So it really was a dream that she wrote down. And this has gone out maybe, it’s more, you know, even more, &#8230; I don’t know if it’s been translated into English, but it was a wonderful dream. And they just stopped participating, in this dream. And to cut to the chase, you know, in the end she woke up great really relieved, that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh thank goodness! They have just stopped participating! And now it’s gonna turn.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">At some point, it’s going to turn!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah it good! Yeah, I guess we don’t know when. I guess they’re firmly in the saddle at this time. But it’s good that you, you know, people are making the sacrifices to do this. But certainly I guess, within Germany there’s more truth amongst the people, about World War Two and the role of Adolf Hitler. There are these groups of Germans which are patriotic and know about that. And they get together and they meet, you know.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, it’s hard to know how many people know, they’re in Germany, what’s going on. But it’s more and more, all the time. It really is. Like people are waking up. I know that, for instance, the driver going back and forth between the courthouse and the prison, I know that some of them are very aware, just from some of the comments I was getting from them in my interactions. Because I went back and forth so often that then they started to get more comfortable.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I just know that they can see what’s going on! They’re driving prisoners back and forth all day, so they see who’s doing all these things. Why are they in jail? And, who are they?</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Is there any idea of just how many people are in jail in Germany for “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial, for this “<em>hate crime</em>”? It’s hard to get any figures. Maybe they don’t want us to know? Do you have any idea?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I don’t think it’s that many that are actually, &#8230; But I shouldn’t even say that. I don’t know how many there are. But I do know that there’s a lot of charges on the same law, this 130, this paragraph one thirty. Two thousand a year is what I was told. Two thousand charges a year, which means that people are paying fines, people are forced to do this, or that, or the other thing. I don’t know what some of the other conditions are.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> So that’s 2,000 people for “<em>Holocaust</em>” denial and Germany, you mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well they don’t even have the words “<em>Holocaust denial</em>” in their law. The word “<em>Holocaust</em>” does not appear in that law. But it is always about that. That paragraph 130. That is what it’s about! And there are 2,000 cases a year being processed! And that law has existed since 1994. It did not exist before 1994. So, you know, my lawyer argued very well that they got along without a law for 40 years, after the war. And they were actually encouraged, when he was in his, you know, schooling.</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Yes debate these things! Talk about these things! We should be able to discuss these things.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they did without fear of persecution.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s surprising that in Germany they could talk openly about that until 1994. You think they would have prevented any doubts about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, the reeducation program was in full swing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And there too, you know, that really got into swing, I guess the whole “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing, in the 70s, right? It wasn’t right after the war. It was too close to events. But then those people who went through the school system, people of my age, our age, they really got hit with it. And subsequently to that they’re just getting really, you know, the triple, quadruple, dose of that, the poison of the mind! You know, the poison that gets put into the mind, of these lies.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. I met, with Germans I’ve met here, you can really see that strong reaction. They are convinced that way. So of these 2,000, you would say probably few would go to jail? They would get a fine, or something else like that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, and I don’t know how many are in jail, specifically for this. I think there’s probably quite a few in jail for related, you know, “<em>inconvenient truths</em>”. I don’t know, though.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> I think the person who has been in jail the longest for this is Wolfgang Fröhlich, about 14 years in jail!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> In Austria.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah it’s in Austria, yeah. Because he was like a pest-control expert, and he testified in Switzerland and he, while in jail, keeps writing letters to authorities saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>No it couldn’t have happened this way, you know, because like this Zyklon B needs about 25 degrees fahrenheit to evaporate to kill people. But they these chambers were only like 15 degrees. It was too cool, so wouldn’t have happened.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think that’s so threatening, because he knows his chemistry! That’s why they keep putting it back in jail. It’s a tragedy, like 14 years in jail! He gets the record, <strong>Wolfgang Fröhlich</strong>!</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Monika-One-Month-in-the-Free-World-6083-Wolfgang-Froehlich-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20698" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Monika-One-Month-in-the-Free-World-6083-Wolfgang-Froehlich-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="692" height="973" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Monika-One-Month-in-the-Free-World-6083-Wolfgang-Froehlich-Ver-2.jpg 692w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Monika-One-Month-in-the-Free-World-6083-Wolfgang-Froehlich-Ver-2-213x300.jpg 213w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 692px) 100vw, 692px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">(Click on image to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes and I’m so glad you brought up his name, because it’s really important that we don’t forget any of these people. And that we support these people. They are, I mean, what a sacrifice he’s made! And he’s not bending, he’s not bowing down, just because they put him in jail. Right? He just keeps speaking the truth. And this, I mean, they just keep putting him in, back in. Or they keep him in there for the repeat offense. Well, that’s like us in our trial. We couldn’t go through that trial, without repeat offending! It’s rather, &#8230; That alone should wake people up, that there’s something deeply wrong with this!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Because you can’t defend yourself! Now shouldn’t there logically be the provision that at least during your trial you can speak about these things without “<em>re-offending</em>” making a new crime? No, you’re defending yourself for what they’ve already charged you with! And yet you’re incurring “<em>new crimes</em>” that they’re going to put you in longer for!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Alfred is facing a new court date, January 28th.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, for what? What’s the charge for January 28th?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> For the things he said and did during the trial!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh gosh!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> This is what I’m saying! He got three years two months. And that doesn’t mean he’s going to, like, they just want to keep him there for a long time! It’s, it’s, &#8230;</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shaking her head]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> So they can add to it? He’s on trial, so they can add to it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. And I mean, it leaves me speechless, literally! So but what can people do? I mean, there’s a lot of things people to do, and we don’t want to prescribe. Everybody has their own imagination, and everybody has their own capacities, and these could be little things, big things. But one of the things you could do to help the political prisoners is write letters to them, or write letters to embassies, or consulates, or whatever. Because that puts the pressure on! And it shows the authorities that these people have support. You know, if the letters just dried up, then it’s:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Ha! See we can get away with this!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! People should be writing lots and lots of letters and keep doing it!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Well I’ll put the address for Alfred below this video, like it did in the last video. Yeah. I guess maybe your demeanor in court was different than Alfred’s? Was he more challenging and you’re a bit calmer? I guess they treated you differently than they did Alfred, it seems, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well the verdict was less, because there were less counts against me, as well. And yeah, we have our different styles and that’s perfectly natural too, we’re two different people. I say to people:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Look we’re on exactly the same page, but we have our different styles of communication and all that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And plus it was important for me to get out. I was already there, and so there was a different strategy. I didn’t speak as much during the trial. But I did do quite a speech at the end, there!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> I think you had a good strategy. You did get out! I was impressed, you know, like, I thought they’d hold you for a year, or more. So I guess your strategy worked.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, the persecutor, sorry prosecutor,</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I accidentally said “<em>persecutor</em>”. The prosecutor called for thirteen months for me, and for three years, seven months for Alfred, something like that. So that is one thing you could say. The judges did go lower in both cases, you know, that’s one thing you could say.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Okay, well, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah anyway, I don’t remember what else I was gonna talk about today, but I think that’s probably, &#8230; Is there anything else that you wanted, that comes to mind?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Well there’s a few comments and questions in the chat. One person asked:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>What was your first meal in prison.</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you remember that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> You know, the first food that I was offered was actually in the holding cell, right in the courtroom on January 3rd. When they just grabbed me, and handcuffed me, and took me against my will. And I protested that I was a free Canadian citizen. And they threw me in this hole, in the basement, like it’s just this little holding cell. And then a number of hours later they came by with a trolley, and in the trolley they, in the little cooler box. They had sandwiches and apples. So I had a sandwich and an apple. That would have been my first meal while incarcerated.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Another comment in the chat, or someone saying. This is from “<em>purple carnation</em>”. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Can you appeal Monika? How can you not be allowed to produce your own evidence to support your innocence? This is what happened in Nuremberg! You’re really a conquered people!</em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you! That is just, &#8230; Thanks so much for that question and comment. And I did want to say this, and I’ve forgotten, both times, both interviews with you Brian. It is being appealed! My lawyer is appealing my verdict! And Alfred’s lawyer is appealing Alfred’s verdict! And people might, at first glance, say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well, why appeal? You’re out! You’re free! Right!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, it’s the wrong verdict, right? They pronounce me guilty, I served months and they pronounced me guilty, plus costs. Can you imagine court costs? Oh my goodness! That’s gonna be a bundle of money! But it’s being appealed! So I haven’t been sent a bill yet, or anything like that. It’s being appealed, because it’s the wrong verdict.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s going to go up to the Supreme Court in Germany. And we talked at the very beginning about the title, you know, being set out into the “<em>free</em>” world. It’s kind of going, you know, one prison cell to another. None of us are free! If there are political prisoners. If there’s one person in jail, we’re all in jail really. Because we’re in this mind prison, we’re in the prison of the mind. Like we are in a virtual prison. So I kind of wanted to throw that comment in there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what was the other part of that person’s comment? So it was about this appeal, and, &#8230; I don’t hear you.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, sorry. Yeah, are you going to appeal? And he said this is like the Nuremberg Trials.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yeah, that was the other part I wanted to comment on.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> The Nuremberg trials! At that trial how many people are aware that there they just proclaimed that you do not need evidence to prove something that is “<em>common knowledge</em>”?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh yeah! So they put out the propaganda, people believe it, therefore it’s “<em>common knowledge</em>”. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shaking his head]</strong></span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1900-Buchenwald-display-table-lampshade-shrunken-heads.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22160" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1900-Buchenwald-display-table-lampshade-shrunken-heads.gif" alt="" width="801" height="637" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Dachau display table. Human skin lampshades, shrunken heads, bone ashtrays — all &#8220;<em>common knowledge</em>&#8221; with enough propaganda!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s “<em>common knowledge</em>” that this thing happened! We’re just gonna proclaim that it’s “<em>common knowledge</em>” and that set the bar for evermore! I mean, this is just something that drives me crazy! That kind of thing, we need to tell people over, and over again! And we need to spread that. But if you just declare at that first very infamous trial, post World War Two, and it really was a terrible thing that happened there!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>This is ‘common knowledge’. We don’t need evidence.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, in fact, they just had all this “<em>counter evidence</em>” which was a bunch of lies, and distortions. And then they hanged these people!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. It’s like they create their own realities, kind of jewish thinking, you know, this subjectivism. They create their own reality, and then they impose that upon us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes! And then forever more, &#8230; Like I get this so much in town here people saying, or on social media, people are always saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh! This is the most well-documented event in history! This is just so well documented! It’s just got to be the most studied event in history!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But then they never say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>No. Where’s where’s the evidence? Where is it?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No! They just keep repeating that statement. It’s just an empty shell of a statement! Which is a complete and utter lie!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. They’ve thoroughly studied the lies and repeated the lies. That’s why they call it one the most documenting crimes in history! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Because they document a bunch of lies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Nuremberg-Harwood-001-Cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22162" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Nuremberg-Harwood-001-Cover.jpg" alt="" width="479" height="629" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/08/03/nuremberg-and-other-war-crimes-part-1/" rel="next">Nuremberg and Other War Crimes — Part 1</a> </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> You could exactly just invert that, because they invert everything, and they say it’s the most repeated lie in history! And it really is. Or it’s the most repeated documentation of non evidence, or false evidence, or whatever! It, that drives me crazy! And they started with out at the <strong>Nuremberg Trials</strong>. Just look up articles 19 and 21 of the Nuremberg trials and you will find it in more legalese language, but that is basically is where they say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>We’re not going to have evidence for this. We don’t need evidence, because it’s common knowledge.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> I want to ask, how are you doing back home, in Jasper, Alberta? How is the town treating you? How does it feel?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, it definitely has gotten better since I last talked to you, on November 15. Like at that point, I had some encounters that just made me feel:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Whoa! What am I coming back into?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And there still is that fear in people’s eyes. And I just try to be friendly to them and ask them how are the kids doing, or whatever! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong> </span>It sort of disarms that fear, a little bit. But I’ve also had some really nice “<em>welcome home</em>” hugs, you know. And people really meaning it when they say “<em>welcome home Monika</em>”. And that’s good! I mean, life is not like it was before. It never will be, but I’m not looking for that. We’re in a different kind of a world than what I was perceiving before I started waking up to this, to all these deceptions.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Because I remember you were barred from the Legion, but you’re not barred from anyone else, right? You are free, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, no. I haven’t really tested that out, and actually I haven’t tested that out. And I was barred, I was banned from a couple of other places too, actually. There was a breakfast kind of a place where she was extremely hostile to me and then threw me out, and barred me from ever coming in there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Gosh! Gosh.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But the Legion was the big one, because it’s a sort of a central, it’s a focal point in this town for all kinds of events. Lots of stuff goes on there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> You’re not barred from the Legion now, right? You used to perform music there, right? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Brian was breaking up here and was hard to hear.]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1015-NDP-Ken-Kuzminski.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22163" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1015-NDP-Ken-Kuzminski.gif" alt="" width="421" height="599" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yeah. In fact, our band helped bring that up from, you know, at the time that was a pretty dead place and then the guy that — well, <strong>Ken Kuzminski</strong>, the President there — he wanted to bring live music in. And he approached me with my band to come in. And we came in on a regular basis for about a year. We came in about once a month and performed, and then other groups did. And then he started going with bands that were traveling from elsewhere, not just local bands. But yeah we kind of kick-started that. Helped to kickstart, getting that place a “<em>happening</em>” place.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And now I’m forbidden! But I don’t know if I am, like I say, &#8230; Anyway I don’t want to talk too much more about that in case I want to go down there and try it out.</span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22164" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg" alt="" width="1142" height="791" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg 1142w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-600x416.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-768x532.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-1024x709.jpg 1024w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1142px) 100vw, 1142px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1016-Legion-building-Jasper.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22165" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1016-Legion-building-Jasper.gif" alt="" width="828" height="498" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. What about going on tour, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> go across Canada and talk about your experience?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Monika: Oh yes, I’m looking forward to that! I think in the new year there will be a little bit of a speaking tour happening in Canada! So don’t know the details yet. But definitely want to do a little bit of speaking. I would love to do that. And I will.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Very good! Yeah, anything else? It’s been a good interview, a good follow up on our first talk, when it’s so fresh on your mind. So do you feel you’re adjusting, you’re getting on with your life? Maybe things will never be the same, of course, after this.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, like I say, it’s been exactly a month today. And like I said at the beginning, that time, it seems like a long time ago, because so much has happened, and I’m just finding my feet. But I expect that things will go a little smoother going forward from here and maybe normalize a little bit in terms of just day-to-day life. And I’m feeling pretty good!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, again remember about Alfred, writing letters to him. And yeah, I’m okay! I’m doing well, thank you! And thanks for doing this Brian. I really appreciate you doing these kinds of interviews and doing all the work you do. Thank you so much!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Well I appreciate having you on my show. It was an honor to be the first to interview last time. I like to do more of these as things change, and talk on other subjects as well. Thanks for being on the show!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Brian:</strong> Okay. Until next time.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Bye!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/01/brian-ruhe-show-monika-schaefer-one-month-in-the-free-world-nov-26-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe Show — Monika Schaefer – One Month in the “Free World”, Nov 26, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/19/the-graham-hart-show-brizer-with-monika-schaefer-dec-2018-transcript/">The Graham Hart Show — Brizer with Monika Schaefer, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Here are two letters* from political prisoners <strong>Jez Turner</strong> in Britain, and <strong>Gerd Ittner</strong> in Germany.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>Jez Turner</strong> shares his reply to a correspondent from a British university who asks him:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">&#8220;<em>to explain world politics in 5 minutes in a way that an average student, not yet totally brainwashed, could grasp quickly and easily.</em>&#8220;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Jez was sentenced to one year in jail for his &#8220;<em>hate crime</em>&#8221; of &#8220;<em>offending</em>&#8221; jews by publicly stating they have too much power in Britain — his imprisonment being the very proof of his claims!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>Gerd Ittner</strong>, gives a brief account of the various trials in progress in Germany, and the injustice of the system in jailing those that speak the truth.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">—  <strong>KATANA</strong>]<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">*<strong>NOTE:</strong> Special thanks to <strong>Diane King</strong> for sharing these two letters. Please help support Jez and Gerd by sending them a card, or a letter.<br />
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Jez Bedford-Turner<br />
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">&amp; Gerd Ittner</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Nov 10, 2018<br />
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<h1 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">LETTERS</span></h1>
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<p>Nov 10, 2018</p>
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<h3><strong>Jez Bedford-Turner</strong></h3>
<p>A5544EE  E3-02,<br />
HMP Wandsworth<br />
Box 757, Heathfield Road,<br />
London SW18 3HU.<br />
ENGLAND</p>
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<p>Dear Jim and Diane, always very glad to receive your bulletins and hear news from the outside world. I’m due to be released soon “<em>on license,</em>” which means that I have to agree to a whole list of restrictions which comprise the “<em>license,</em>” e.g.: internet ban, travel ban, public speaking ban, etc. We are still wrangling over what that will be exactly, but I’ve already told the authorities that if they are too restrictive, I will not sign and I would rather spend the remaining six months of my sentence in prison, i.e., living on a study sabbatical at Her Majesty’s Expense! <em>Vamos a Ver</em> (we’ll see) as the Spanish say!</p>
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<p>A correspondent from a prestigious University recently asked me to explain world politics in 5 minutes in a way that an average student, not yet totally brainwashed, could grasp quickly and easily. No doubt after publishing my answer below he will get expelled, &#8230; I thought you and all your friends might enjoy the fruits of my efforts too!</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Dear Student</strong>, There is nothing complex about understanding the political situation in the world today, but to understand it, one must first understand where power really lies and also understand the opposing concepts of “<em>populism</em>” and “<em>the progressive agenda</em>”.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">With regards to any tribe, ethnic group, race, community, society, or nation state, “<em>populist</em>” can be classed as any policy, or attribute that is generally healthy in its effects. “<em>Progressive, </em>” on the other hand, is any policy, or attributes as poisonous in its effects. There are, of course, many different types of poison, and similarly the progressive policies that comprise the progressive agenda are Legion. Some of the most prominent include: feminism, transgenderism, mass immigration, positive discrimination, free Marxist economics, globalization, urbanization, Marxism, individualism, feudalism, psychoanalysis, modern art and modern architecture, laws against free speech and expression, and the legislation and encouragement of gambling, drugs, blasphemy, obscenity, pornography, homosexuality, promiscuity, usury, divorce and abortion.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The jews in their own in-house journals openly boast of the power they have acquired (in key sectors such as: fractional reserve central banking, international finance, the mass media, Hollywood, the fashion industry, academia, the publishing trade, &#8230; and the major funders of political parties) and are proud of the way they’ve used this power to initiate, promote, and fund the progressive agenda. They probably give conclusive proof of their prime mover status and achievement in making societies, “<em>progressive</em>” particularly in the West (which can be defined as that part of the world were their power is supremely dominant).</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m waxing lyrical on this topic. They, employing their characteristic verbal sleight of hand, use such excerpts as: secularism, pluralism, diversity, vibrancy, multiracialism, multiculturalism, enrichment, integration, affirmative action, free movement of goods and people, tolerance, cosmopolitan, the permissive society, laws against hatred and political correctness — All their words.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The Corbynista Left is ideologically speaking a creation of “<em>The Progressive Agenda</em>” and as such it is grateful to the jews and doubly so for ensuring that the fabled progressive “<em>nectar</em>” is being made compulsory for every ethnic group on the planet; however, the Corbynistas are perplexed and annoyed that the jews themselves hold jewish communities exempt from drinking said nectar. Hence arises the Corbynista so-called anti-semitism and token anti-zionism.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The populists of the right (such as <strong>Nigel Farage</strong>, <strong>Tommy Robinson</strong> and, <strong>Anne-Marie Waters</strong>, <strong>Enoch Powell</strong>, <strong>Mary Whitehouse</strong>, <strong>Donald Trump</strong> and even the brilliant <strong>Guillaume Faye</strong>, usually oppose one, or two, sometimes several but rarely all the poisons of “<em>The Progressive Agenda</em>” and crucially few truthfully, because the issue and who is behind the progressive agenda. On the contrary, they invariably praise jewish communities worldwide for successfully resisting the progressive tide and by so doing managing to maintain their jewish identity. Thus arises the populist rights’ philo-semitism and pro-zionism.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Looked at objectively from a long-term perspective “<em>progressive</em>” is anything that weakens, innervates, emasculates, corrupts, &#8230; desacralizes, dispirits, depresses, fractures, &#8230; in short, anything that destroys identity; and therefore, as a consequence that anything, in the final analysis, destroys not just merely everything that makes life worthwhile, but quite literally EVERYTHING, or almost everything, because “<em>progressive</em>” is poison and a poisoner, as everyone knows, does not drink his own poison.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Of course from our point of view, and indeed from any healthy, common sense, wise, or indeed, any sensible viewpoint, the term “<em>progressive</em>” is a total and complete misnomer, for there is nothing of progress, in any conceivable shape, or form, about progressive policies, attitudes, and the whole progressive agenda. “<em>Progressive</em>” can only be classified as progress if one’s idea of progress is going down the primrose path, the much-heralded Paradise of a zionist-controlled, hellish, Talmudic one-world slave state.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">In summary it is not enough to oppose the progressive agenda, we must call out those behind it and highlight their ultimate aim. There is only one true antidote to the world’s current malaise and it can be summed up in the words that we must free the world from zionist control.</span></p>
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<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
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<p><strong>Jez Turner</strong></p>
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<h3>Gerd Ittner</h3>
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<p>JVA Nürnberg.<br />
Mannertstraße 6<br />
90429 Nürnberg.<br />
Germany.</p>
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<p>Oct 23, 2018</p>
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<p>Dear Jim Rizoli, Thank you for your letter from August 25. Please excuse my belated reply.</p>
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<p>In September, I had been at the <strong>Schaefer</strong> trial in Munich as witness in favor of <strong>Alfred</strong> and <strong>Monika</strong>. But the rotten judge, against the law, did not allow my testimony. Anything in favor of Alfred and Monika is and will be ignored by the court. It’s so easy to sense that <strong>B’nai B’rith</strong> is behind all that fake ordeal.</p>
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<p>As you may know, <strong>Ursula Haverbeck’s</strong> trial in Hamburg, due to start in September, has been postponed. I’ve just finished a letter to <strong>Gerard Menuhin</strong> in which I wrote that we revisionists are doing what we are doing out of Duty, even if there was no one to listen. Our work may be recognized for its value maybe only in future times. But to make that possible, we have to do our work right now, TODAY. And how afraid they are, because of our work — putting people in jail for speaking their (our) minds.</p>
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<p>My imprisonment is totally against the law. They did not even show any warrant to me. And they did not check my identity by a passport. While the law says it’s impossible to put somebody into prison without showing him a warrant and checking the identity by a passport. Against dissidents, they do not care about Law and Order. They do like they want, or like they are ordered to buy THEM. They want to destroy any person that does dare to speak out the truth and calls their lies by the name.</p>
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<p>I quote <strong>Alison Chabloz</strong>:</p>
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<p>“<em>St. Jerome sums up aptly the necessary retort to all those who say — free speech must be curtailed — if it offends anybody: If an offense comes out of the truth, better is that the offense come out than the truth be concealed.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>All the best,</p>
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<p><strong>Gerd</strong></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/08/08/jez-bedford-turner-letter-from-prison-jul-29-2018/" rel="bookmark">Jez Bedford-Turner — Letter from Prison — Jul 29, 2018</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/" rel="next">Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/11/12/jez-bedford-turner-gerd-ittner-letters-from-prison-nov-10-2018/" rel="bookmark">Jez Bedford-Turner, Gerd Ittner — Letters from Prison — Nov 10, 2018</a></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. &#160; &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/08/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-2-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">In <strong>Part 2</strong> here (<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Part 1 is here</a>), Henrik explains his thinking on how Red Ice should present such taboo topics as Revisionist material, and the role of organized jewry in our racial and cultural destruction, that Alfred discusses. Since Red Ice has a large and growing audience on YouTube, Henrik rightly concludes that despite wanting to get the truth out, they must avoid getting banned by YouTube by publishing certain material discussed here in the members section.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred then talks about the use of &#8220;<em>control words</em>&#8220;, such as &#8220;<em>extreme right wing</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>racist</em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>anti-semitism</em>&#8220;, etc., by our enemies to frame the debate in their favour. Organized jewry through its media domination have been relentless lying to us for the purpose of effectively genociding the White race through mass invasion of non-Whites, miscegenation and other means to drive the Whites into minority status.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">He then talks about how the advert of digital technology has enable us to reclaim history and expose the lies that we have been feed. Despite the availability of the true history it is a traumatic process for most people to go through as they rid themselves of the lies that they have been brainwashed with all their lives. Alfred talks about how he overcame his fears to eventually come to conclude that Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik talks about how he has become &#8220;<em>skeptical</em>&#8221; about the so-called &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, because of the many things that simply don&#8217;t add up, and as such is very interested to hear about what &#8220;<em>Holocaust deniers</em>&#8221; have to say. He goes on to say how the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is always talked about in an emotional way by the main stream media, leading him to conclude there is something &#8220;<em>fishy</em>&#8221; with the story.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred goes on to explain how the people of the West have been, through psychological manipulation, reduced to the level of spiritual, emotional cripples, that have prevented them from resisting, so far, from being flooded with millions of the Third Word.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Henrik tells how that Red Ice has put everything on the line in talking about migration, the JQ, White genocide, etc., wherever the truth leads them. How jews like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong>, talk about the desirability of White population replacement.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred describes how technological development has been used by jews to further their plans, for example with their control of Hollywood, the media, etc. The World Wars and what is happening now is the final phase of the “<em>War of the jew</em>” to dominate the world. And how our empathy, our jew induced feelings of guilt, pathological altruism, and so forth, is being used against us.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Much more is discussed, with Alfred and Henrik ending by urging listeners to write letters of support to Monika.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">I would add that Monika’s imprisonment is a real expression of the war being waged against us and our freedom to exist. Her situation is symbolic of the repression that will only get far worst unless we stand up and fight back in any way we can, however small or large. So start sending cards and letters to Monika, and anything else towards helping her and our cause.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Write to Monika now, at:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the <strong>members’ hour</strong>, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the free fall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here in the second segment at <strong>Red Ice Members dot com</strong>. We’re talking with <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong>.</p>
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<p>And I just want to take a moment and kind of explain a few things, not only about the topic, but kind of about the way that we have to think about how we address these kinds of topics now, as well. The first thing is, of course, that we were mentioned, Red Ice TV was mentioned by name in the British Parliament. It was a couple of weeks ago now, by a lady who brought us up, we’re in the record of the UK parliament right now in reference to, I think there had a discussion about hate and violence and how people turn to terrorism and stuff like that. And we came up as a horrible right-wing example of a channel that should be censored! And this lady <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Yvette Cooper]</strong></span>, I forget her name, now even. She was literally calling, she was sitting there with a representative from Google and talking about us specifically how, you know:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em><i>What do we need to do to make you censor these kinds of channels? </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And not only since that point, but around that point, we realized that okay, what we have here with the YouTube channel, I think we just broke 170,000 subscribers recently. So it’s a good, you know, it’s a good platform. It’s a good way to get the message out. And just to be frank with everyone, I also feel at the same time that I know that certain topics are just a “<em><i>third rail</i></em>”! I know that they would lead to censorship. Part of me feels, I don’t want to hand their reasoning to them, or the way that they just can basically say, “<em><i>Okay, let’s censor it! </i></em>” Because they’re talking about these “<em><i>nonsense</i></em>” topics.</p>
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<p>We don’t have to, you know, we know that they’re not. We personally and I personally, as we heard tonight, we’re open to everything. We consider that our audience should have an open mind. And even if it’s a topic that you don’t agree with, if you’re a newcomer, if you don’t know what we’ve talked about in the past on the show. Whatever it might be, we hope that you’re in a position where you. Where you hear our guests out and you hear us out and give us the benefit of the doubt. And even if you think differently, you know, there’s no reason why you should hate all the other material that we do. You would just come to a point where we disagree. So that’s fine, but, what I’m getting at is, that I feel this urge, I want to talk about certain things, I especially want to talk about the things that you’re not supposed to talk about! Like this topic we’re addressing here with Alfred today.</p>
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<p>At the same time that’s why I feel reprehensible these days, to full on go on a path especially in the first hour, because that will go up on our YouTube channel. It will be available for free and that’s where kind of feel, I think we should have an approach where we basically save some of the more controversial material, shall we say, for the second segment., because that’s our platform, we control that. There we can discuss whatever we want to. And that’s also kind of partially why I don’t want to just go fully overboard in the first segment., because YouTube will censor us and if we can limit that ability, I think that’s a smart strategy.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[03:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I think it’s better to reach out with, I don’t know twenty-five, or fifty percent of the material that we have, then not reaching anyone at all., because we’re going to be at censored. So that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t pick up on certain things that Alfred mentioned in the first segment when he talks about historical events and things like this. I kind of, I just feel, you know, let’s leave it a bit later and we will go into the details. And if people really want to get into the knowledge of this, they can check our archives. They can listen to the second hour and they’ll get kind of the full spectrum of the things that we discuss.</p>
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<p>And again, just briefly on this, there are some people, when it comes to this topic, that are more effectual than others. There are some that are better when it comes to the history and stuff like that. I have a very open mind about this topic and I frankly don’t know all the intricacies, and the ins and outs, of this historical event. There’s many many, you know, revisionists or, historical truth seekers that are far more pertinent on this topic than me.</p>
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<p>But I love listening to these guys, no matter how out of left field it may seem. I want to get to the truth and I’m willing to give the people a platform, that talk about this, that DARE talk about this! And that also ends up in trouble for talking about this. I think it’s a incredibly important and if we can offer, you know, something we here at Red Ice that is completely, &#8230; We’re not original I know that there’s other people talking about it, but I’m saying, you know, in the size that we have of the YouTube platform and stuff like that, if we can offer people, or be a vehicle to help to get some of that message out, I want to! I want to be there as a free speech kind of platform, that actually focuses on these kinds of things that you’re not supposed to talk about.</p>
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<p>There’s many parts to this, and it’s a very dynamic situation. So on one hand you have to be careful of how you cover it. You have to be smart, how you cover it. And you don’t have to be reckless. And I know that some people out there they want me to go full force and talk about these issues all the time, and this, and that. And I just don’t think it’s smart to do that. I think we just shoot ourselves in the foot.</p>
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<p>So, you know, I’m all aboard of speaking about these issues, but I want people out there to understand that we have to be, you know, kind of smart about this too. So, I think that’s kind of encapsulates what I want to say about this. I could go on for a long time.</p>
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<p>But Alfred, let’s focus back on you here now and talk more about this., because I want to hear about this. I want you to be in a position to be able to share what you think our audience should know about this historical event. What components of this is important and I also want to again urge people that you might not agree with Alfred.</p>
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<p>You might be a newcomer, you don’t know about this topic, or never really maybe cared about it that much, or your convinced of one way, or another. But just hear Alfred. Hear our other guests out that talk about this and see what conclusions you come to. See if there’s anything to it, because I think this is a vastly important topic, for the reasons that we mentioned Alfred. That, you know, they’ve hinged so many other components on this, in terms of the guilt and like, this is the reason why we must become multi-cultural. This is the reason why we have to accept all these people into our countries. That’s why we can’t have a country which is comprised of our own people as a majority, and stuff like this.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[06:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So it is a focal point, a node point, in their kind of matrix, if you will, of how they managed to keep us trapped and encapsulated. But how would you, &#8230; Assume that we’re talking with someone who is new to the topic and who might even be upset with you, at this point at the things that you have mentioned? What would you like to say to them, and how do you think is the best way to get them into the mindset of how the should relate to this.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well let’s just start with what you said before. That you are mentioned in the UK parliament there. And they said, “<em><i>extreme right-wing</i></em>”. Well I tell you what, I’d rather be extreme “<em><i>right wing</i></em>” then extreme “<em><i>wrong wing</i></em>”! And in our language, and so much of what they’ve done to us is with the words. They use the words and make us associate certain emotions with words, and thereby controlling us, until we are actually upside down in our thinking.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they have made us believe that to be “<em><i>right</i></em>” is very bad, but I’d rather be right than wrong. And in German, in fact, they use the word “<em><i>left</i></em>”, also means, if you got “<em><i>left</i></em>”, it means you got cheated. And all these jews, these communists, basically are turning everything “<em><i>left</i></em>”! Which means they’re cheating, they’re inverting it. You can turn a shirt “<em><i>inside out</i></em>”, in German you say, “<em><i>Links abbiegen</i></em>” which means “<em><i>turned left</i></em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to use that word, because that’s just one example of how they do it with all the words, all the words. They define people as “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers! They define everything they don’t want to hear as “<em><i>hate speech</i></em>”. Now, as long as we bow and bend to these kinds of intimidations then there is no stopping. They will keep driving us further down the road they want to drive us down. And that’s why my position on this is, I guess some people would call it reckless, but I say I will not adhere to any of these thought laws!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And also, if you ever deal with a psychopath, you will know that the psychopath will have a hysterical reaction whether you do a tiny little deviation from what he wants you to do, or if you just, you know, destroy the whole thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I say, I notice it too, the people that go to prison here in Germany. Some people go to prison, because they gave three pieces of paper to two people. Well I say if you go to prison for giving three pieces of paper to two people, you might as well go to jail for giving a million pieces of paper to a million people! You see, because you might as well, the punishment is going to be the same. It’s arbitrary.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[09:06]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s one thing, we have to understand what we’re up against and regain our independence in thought and spirit, and we do not have to bow to anybody! Especially not somebody who we know is lying to us on a scale that is beyond most people’s comprehension. And that’s what it is with the jews, as a collective. They have amassed so many lies, that they know that when these lies collapse, that they will be chased out of town and there will not be a jew left alive! , because the people, they don’t have to worry about us, you know, you, or me, we have had time to incrementally come to terms with the frustration and the anger. So we’ve got control of ourselves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But what about all those people, when they understand just what’s been done to them? Especially now that the big picture, the big plan is, in fact, the extermination of the White race by mass miscegenation and by genocide. And that’s a reality that will catch up to us, no matter how we try to put her head in the sand, or cover our eyes and not look at it. When your house is being invaded by the hordes on the street, then there is no more hiding! They will kill you!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the Germans, the heart of Europe, they went through so much horrible, unspeakable suffering, and now the very descendants of these people that survived that genocide, are on their knees paying the perpetrator for some “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” which never ever happened! In fact, the jews themselves came out of that conflict, that we call the Second World War better than any other race.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">See they did it, just like 9/11, they got the “<em><i>jew call</i></em>”. The jews, they always set the stage. Once they know the fighting is going to begin they get the hell out of there. And all those jews left and got the hell out of there, those are the ones that later claimed “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” restitution, because they are survivors. Now if you took, how many jews there were even though they were the enemy of the Germans, they still fared better than the Germans! If you look at how many were there, how they, you know, percent wise got out of that, made it through, they did very well! Just like 9/11.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">9/11, I think three jews that died, although there was hundreds of jews that worked in those complexes, but they all stayed home that day. Just like they all stayed home, or they all went on vacation and left those cities that were then fire bombed in Germany. And so many jews, they left and then afterwards they claimed “<em><i>Holocaust survivor</i></em>”!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[12:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s reality. I mean, they’ve been so, so, so, successful I think it’s even blown their own minds how successful they’ve been. And this success however, has deluded their minds to think it can continue going on that way forever. And now, of course, comes the day of reckoning. Digital technology and our ability to think, and our ability, as people from everywhere figure out what happened in our history, putting all the stuff together out of that what was supposed to be forgotten and erased.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well, digital technology has enabled us to actually bring the stuff back to the surface, put the pieces together. And now we’re putting the big picture together. And the jew, there is no escape. The jew will not, the jews dream is to have a thousand years of, you know, world domination. Well it’s coming to it’s end, probably this year. And that’s why I say that the sooner everybody comes on board and understands this, the better it is., because it is traumatizing, and you cannot erase the emotions of the programs out of your head.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Even if, you know, okay, it’s a lie, you know, this is what the truth is. Until you really have your mind back under your control with the truth and the proper emotions, it’s a traumatic process that can take a long time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I know, even myself, not just a couple of years ago, I still had to really overcome fears of looking at things like, “<em><i>The Greatest Story Never Told</i></em>” by Dennis Wise, for example. I remember the emotions, we had to pull down the blinds before we look at that, somebody might see us. And to go from understanding that Adolf Hitler was not a villain, but probably one of the greatest Europeans, one of the greatest people the Europeans have ever brought forth! On the same scale as the greatest heroes that we’ve ever had in the past. Whether it’s Caesar, or whether it’s, you know, Napoleon, whoever these people are. Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> So let me pick up on something you mentioned earlier. Again in terms of the labels and this kind of stuff, “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier, for example. I think the articles out there about, you know, me, Red Ice, whatever. I think that’s usually one thing that’s kind of mentioned right away. As a way to immediately discredit! Like here is a untrustworthy, stupid, moronic organization! You know, they once talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, or that it didn’t happen, or whatever.</p>
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<p>So that is kind of bandied around a lot, you know, Henrik is a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier! <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>Because I’ve had people on the show that don’t believe in the story, in the mainstream story. And it’s also, because I’ve had them on the show and I don’t treat them the way that let’s say, you know, because Fox, or CNN, as media outlets, they can talk about the subject, but you have to have the right relationship to the guest. You have to clearly demonstrate that you’re an opposition to them! And you’re resentful, and almost hateful towards them. Then it’s okay. Then you can touch on it.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[15:06]</strong></span></p>
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<p>You can’t invite people on the show that you, and again, it doesn’t matter if I agree, or disagree, it’s a crime that I can’t invite people to the show, and ask them questions about what they believe, and give them a platform to share their opinions. That is a crime in itself, right?</p>
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<p>So now, I become a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier. I haven’t even, I don’t have all the facts about the event. I frankly I don’t know who does. I think there’s enough information to know that something is kind of weird with the bits and pieces that we have been given. And something is, I think there’s enough information to demonstrate that it’s not as they claim that it was.</p>
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<p>That’s kind of, and frankly in the most honest way I can explain, what I think about the event., because I know that there’s an incredibly muddy, the waters is so muddy around it historically. And the few bits and pieces we managed to extract, Alfred, we’ve been able to see that it’s like, well, how the hell do you piece the math together here?</p>
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<p>One thing I really like about many of the videos out there that talk about this subject, and the mechanics, if you will, of the event itself, it’s a very, you know, for those that are not familiar with it, it’s a very gruesome way that it’s done., because it’s done in a very cold and scientific way. And that’s also a give away, I feel., because we never get to that level of inquiry in the mainstream. It’s always emotions first, right!</p>
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<p>Every time you talk about this, it’s about, you know, a little girl’s experience, and they get you in that mindset right away, where were you not allowed to just, well wait a moment, let’s not talk about the emotions first! Let’s just zoom out and let’s talk about what actually happened. How did it come together? What do they say that it is, right? In these videos that look at the, for example, the number of bodies that have been taken into the chambers where they were undressed, and so forth. And then, you know, the gas was disseminated and then they transported the bodies up and out through this little kind of small elevator, up to where the crematories are, and stuff like that.</p>
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<p>You know, what I’m talking about. Those kinds of videos that really going to the nitty-gritty detail. That’s were I think the key is, because it shows scientifically and mathematically that this is a very different. It would have been very different to, what should we say, dispose of that many bodies that they claim, for example.</p>
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<p>So from my point of view I think it’s a numbers game. I look at it, and it seems mathematically and scientifically, that what they say to us, that’s an impossibility! And the fact that we’re not allowed to talk about that, or the fact that they have to kind of show this emotional thing first, and avoid the science of it. That’s a dead giveaway to me! So, just from the point of view, I just like, you know, I don’t know what the hell happened!<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> And I don’t have all the details. But something is fishy with the story. That’s where I’m at. What do you feel about this?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[17:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well like you said, it’s all emotions and no science. And when you said before, that if you are one of these main stream media, or jew stream media, they can only get on there if you bend to their nonsense. And yet they will scream at, they will denounce someone as being a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier with such hysterical emotion. And people have no self self-esteem anymore, because they are demoralized, there are people who don’t even know which gender they are, don’t have any self-esteem.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they will scream from one corner to the next, like a little dog, or like a little rat with emotional hysteria. Not even turning their brain on to just think, well what is actually the reality? They are so incapable. See, the danger that we have right now is that a population, when our entire population, has been reduced to this level as spiritual, emotional cripples. Total cripples! We in no way, shape, or form, be ready for the reality that we have to deal with, which is survival in an environment that is going to radically become more hostile to us. When we are being flooded by basically, well, millions of Third World, they call them migrants, hey these is the very worst thing that we could possibly allow to happen.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because here we are, our children that are now confused about their gender, that have nothing, but their feelings as their main focal point, are now going to have to live, survive, in a world that is being flooded by millions of hostile young men, primarily, from Third World countries. This is a recipe for total, absolute disaster! And for people to bow to emotional tyranny, “<em><i>Holocaust denier</i></em>”! If anybody called me a “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” denier I’d say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Well, I’m just glad you didn’t insult me as being a “<em><i>Holocaust believer! </i></em>”</i></em></span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When everybody knows that it’s a lie. Another thing you have to remember, Henrik, is that the mainstream media is falling at free fall speed!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">About as fast as those three towers on 9/11 fell! Nobody looks at them anymore, nobody takes it seriously. And people are going to Red Ice and similar stations, you probably have one of the best sources around. That’s why they attacked you. That’s why they took you down and destroyed you in a very professional way. And I’m just so glad you guys came back up again. And don’t underestimate the importance of your work, and the responsibility that you carry to help to understand the reality that’s out there., because people are revolted by the mainstream media! They are revolted by our politicians. And they are craving for someone like your platform. Lana, what you guys are doing is just superb!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[21:14]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just want to say that now. And I cannot say enough how much I appreciate that. And I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of people out there, that have the same sentiments I do, that I’m expressing to you now. But they don’t tell you. But it’s out there. So don’t underestimate the importance of what you’re doing and, you know, stay strong! Stay safe!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Thank you. Yeah, and I mean, exactly. And we could have been in a situation where we just didn’t talk about these issues, or didn’t go in this direction, but as many people know, who’s been with us for a long time, I’ve always just been a “<em><i>Truth Seeker</i></em>”. That’s what it’s been about! And, of course, about philosophy, philosophical topics, and kind of getting to the nature of reality and these kinds of things as well.</p>
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<p>But when I started waking up to, you know, specifically the migrant invasion and what happened to Sweden, to my own country, back in, for a serious way, back in 2013, 14, something like that. I knew about it before hand, I had done some shows on like <strong>Barbara Spectre</strong>, you know, on these kinds of issues that have had risen up at that point. But it wasn’t the only thing after that point, when I researched some of the history and got really just engaged in the ancient culture of my country, that I felt for the first time that something is being lost! Something incredibly unique and important to me, and my identity, is being lost. And I realized that I had to fight for that!</p>
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<p>And I put everything that Red Ice does, really on the line, because we ventured into an area where even most truth seekers never tread, right? They don’t dare! They don’t want to! They disagree politically and all these kinds of things and it’s just too much. We took an immense risk by going into that area. Talking about migration, talking about the JQ <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Jewish Question]</strong></span>. And, you know, who is behind things, and why they’re doing it to us. What their ultimate goal is. Talking about White genocide, population replacement, and these kinds of issues.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[23:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But again, my stance has always been we have to go where the truth leads us. It’s an observable reality of what is happening in Europe and America right now. And that’s what I want to talk about. And we have to go in that direction. So I appreciate, you know, you mentioning that, because we could have, I would never have done it, but I’m saying for the sake of it, we could have just kind of avoided that and continue on the path as usual. But I feel that wouldn’t have been the responsible thing to do. Wouldn’t have been the right thing to do, and I would have been lying to myself. And I just I couldn’t do that. So thanks for mentioning that.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Another very important thing that anybody working in trying to understand the truth has to have the strength, the character strength to also admit that we believed in lies!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> You see I admit I believed a lot of nonsense and made bad decisions based on the nonsense. I was myself was demoralized and allowed myself to be distracted, because I was so demoralized. And I’m just so grateful that I was able to come to the point where we find ourselves today, and to come out of that condition., because once you come out and once you understand the truthful things, you know, you look at people that choose to remain in the comfortable way, or that they think is comfortable. Sit on the couch and watch TV and believe the lies. They become insignificant. There’s no content in their lives, they’re just nothing!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When this system collapses and those people who understand the truth will be obliged to be leaders of the hundreds, or thousands, of other people, because these zombies will need leadership! They are not even capable of anything anymore. And that’s why it’s important that we just articulate the findings, the conclusions that we come to based on evidence, and so forth, in a way that other people find motivation and interest in understanding it. To come to our side, because the zombies, as long as they believe these lies, and as long as they still emotionally react to these control trigger words, they are not really functioning human beings! Our ancestors would be abhorred, if they saw how people today allow themselves to be driven basically with words! Simple words, that are hysterically projected on them in an emotional way.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, you see the pictures you’re showing right now, I mean, these people coming in they’re filled in their minds with completely different programs than we have been filled with.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have been filled with programs that make us submissive and “<em><i>tolerant</i></em>” and we have no self-confidence, no nothing. They <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[invaders]</strong> </span>come in here with a sense of entitlement! And they want something, they were promised all kinds of things. And a lot of these people coming in, they paid their family savings to some smuggler of people, to come to get the house, and the woman, and the car, that was promised! And when they don’t get it, they get angry, and they’ll just go and get it!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what they do. The Talmudic jews, they program people and bring them together and then they make them go at each others throats. And then they try to come and say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, we’ll be the referee and we’ll get this all sorted out again! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it is a turmoil! It is a disaster! We have to regain our independence, our territorial independence, our spiritual independence, our souls, our history! We have to find our identity and it is our obligation.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Tell us why you think it’s done in this way., because that would seem as a contradiction. We’ve been over this many times on the show, but again we’re talking about this from the from a point of view of having the newcomer in mind, and that’s why it’s important to go over things, over, and over again.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[27:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And so, you would think, &#8230; Let’s take the city of Malmo, for example, in Sweden. Where many of the jews in Malmo have been willing, or they’ve been kind of driven out, actually, to a certain extent. They’ve left, because there are so many Muslims that are coming in and controlling large sections of those areas, that they are no longer safe. They can’t walk around with their yamakas <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[yarmulkes (pronounced “<em><i>yamakas</i></em>”, a Yiddish word taken from the Polish word for skullcap)]</strong>,</span> or kippa, whatever it is, in the street. They can’t be visible about who they are. And then you have people like Barbara Spectre. It’s a perfect reference, because it shows someone for the first time, someone<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[a jew]</strong> r</span>eally openly talking about it.</p>
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<p>There’s many others too that we’ve referenced like <strong>Annahecker Harnee</strong><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>, <strong>Noel Ignatiev</strong>, there is people in Germany, like <strong>Gregor Gysi</strong> that’s talking about this. Many politicians too, in Germany talking about the replacement, basically. And that Europe has to become multi-cultural.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But tell us about that seeming contradiction that if they bring in lots of Muslims into Europe, then those jewish populations that are in Europe, are going to be targeted themselves. At least those on the street level, maybe not the elite ones, you know, that are owning banks and media corporations and stuff like this. But why is it beneficial for them to do that, when you think, initially, that would be something that hurts their own people?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">If you see this all in the context of the big picture. I’m talking about from the biological point of view. And when I say a biological perspective, I say that looking at us as the White race, the European peoples, and the onslaught of the jew, as a parasite, on the White race to eradicate, or weaken the White race, to the point of not being a hindrance to the jews quest for world domination.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now the jew, as a parasite, will never be able to dominate a functioning planet, but these invaders are an instrument used to destroy us! To breed us down, and basically destroy us. But that is the mind of the psychopathic parasite. This strategy may have worked as long as the jew was going from one European tribe to the next, when one was destroyed it could just sort of slither out the back door before it completely collapsed and go to the next host and start all over there. And this was so successful.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:45]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Then the technological revolution was somehow very conducive to this behavior. Let’s look at it in the United States and the film industry, and Hollywood, and so forth. Now the jews never invented anything at all. They just took everything over after we invented it. Look at Thomas Edison. Well, he might have invented the movie cameras and stuff like that, but the jews seemed to have taken over Hollywood and got total control of it. As well as all the media, and everything else. They don’t invent, or create! They just infiltrate and take over, and then use it for their devious purposes. Their business model basically is, now that we have kvetched and sucked as much out of these European peoples as we can, we are so close to world domination, now we have to get rid of them, before they figure it out and retaliate with the retribution that’s coming coming down their way. And that’s the situation we have.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s really the final showdown — them, or us! And everything they have done so far, has brought us to this point — them, or us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now they want to exterminate us, well if we reverse that one hundred eighty degrees, then we have to exterminate them! And they’re trying to prevent that with “<em><i>thought laws</i></em>”! That we cannot even express this natural biological response that is necessary for us to survive. They’re trying to make it illegal! And that’s not going to work, you see, because this is a biological thing, and the jew knows it. And the more draconian that they come with their pathetic thought laws, people don’t let themselves be driven by that anymore, except the zombies.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the zombies, they all have to be put down. I mean, I know it sounds really cruel for a moment. But if you have a dog at home and you have conditioned this dog to just bite any blonde person that comes along, for whatever reason. Now you decide that wasn’t a good idea, I want to deprogram the dog. Well if you cannot, if you’re not able to deprogram the dog what are you going to do? You will put it down as a sick dog.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, I don’t want to talk about our people as being sick dogs, but if we have people that prefer to keep the programs that they have been programmed with, through the psychological warfare that they have been indoctrinated with. If they choose to continue running on these programs, they are not a functioning human being. They are, in fact, standing in the way, serving as our enemies! And the jews even gloat about the fact that they will get the “<em><i>goyim</i></em>” to be instruments of their own destruction!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And these people, these lefties, these communists, our people who throw us in jail, who come and steal my computers, for example, these are our people! And they have been conditioned to do that, and they have to understand — that’s what I told them when they were here just yesterday morning. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>You guys will all be held to account, and I hope you guys have some pretty good reasons figured out, because it’s not far away. We know your names, we have your faces. Lists are being compiled. And you need to understand what treason is, and you need to understand what theft is! So you figure it out. You’ve got to live with it! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’d rather go to jail. I told them I would rather be dead than doing what you are doing now, stealing my computers!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is a final battle between the lie, and deceit, and deception, and our survival! And by God we’ve got to get this right! And we are going to get this right. I know we’re going to get it, right!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right, a couple of couple of things there, Alfred. Okay, so the first one I feel it’s important to touch on is, of course, the severity of the situation, and explaining that there is a conflict. It’s very difficult to explain to someone who doesn’t see the on-goings of the world as an existential battle. It’s very easy, I think, for people to be at a point where, &#8230; I don’t know what to call it. Like we made it, right? There’s no war, no major wars, no world wars anymore at least. You know, largely in the West, where we’re safe, it’s fine with it’s prosperity somewhat. I know things are bring degraded slowly. But overall, if you just kind of go along to get along, watch the TV, you have access to your cheap calories, as it were. It would seemingly be, “<em><i>everything’s okay</i></em>” right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what people don’t understand, is that underneath all this, including what the globalists are up to, and stuff like that, there is an intense battle going on for the future of this planet! Of both ownership and control, and who’s going to run things, and stuff like that. And we have to try to explain to people that it’s like no! There are people out there that see you as an existential threat, and they want to control you, or manage you, or replace you, or whatever the situation might be for that individual group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s people meddling. And it’s at a such a point now when we look at the migrant invasion, and stuff like that. And some of the comments we have from people themselves, that are openly talking about population replacement, and that this is about swamping Europe. We have to get to a point where we realize that it is existential. It is a battle for survival!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Most Europeans are not at that position yet, because we don’t see it that clearly. It’s still somewhat behind closed doors. It’s only the people there really are looking at the stuff, that are finding the quotes, they’re keeping up with the news and stuff like that. And that’s frankly too much for most normies out there! They go along to get along. They don’t understand that this is a battle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what you’re talking about, when you talk about this intense struggle that’s going on between these different groups, I think is very difficult for them to wrap their heads around it. And I also think, that they think, that it is dangerous — and partially I would agree with them — to, for example, group everyone together as a unit in certain situations. There’s always people who are going to break that mold. There’s other people from the group that will talk against what the group is doing and stuff like that.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[36:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I see the danger in that. But I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but when you were talking about the jewish group, you’re talking about primarily the “<em><i>organized</i></em>”, those who have organized efforts? I mean, there are people like <strong>Gilad Atzmon</strong>, who is jewish, but he talks about the kind of things that we talk about. I certainly have no need to go after him, or some of the people that are on our side, who don’t have a problem with us, right?<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> So there is some clarification that I think could be made for the newcomer there. That is not only about grouping people together, but you’re talking about those who are actively, as an interest group, engaged in replacing us, or bringing in migrants, or openly talking about the kind of things that are, frankly, should be a crime against humanity. But how do you see this, and how do we explain it to people?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. First of all, those people who think everything is fine, there’s no war. No! There’s a war going on right now. We are now in the final phase of the “<em><i>War of the jew</i></em>” to dominate this world. And you have to see what we call “<em><i>World War One</i></em>” and “<em><i>World War Two</i></em>” in this context. And they needed this period of time to get us in the position that we’re in right now. And see, a lot of the jews themselves are also victims of this insanity. But they are acting as a group. And that’s why I say that jews need to understand that they are being coerced, or led, acting as a group. And as such, they will be dealt with as a group, when this healing process begins.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They are, I’ve often said, those at the top, those top jews actually hate their own people more than they hate us. They are so extremely self-centered and selfish, that they will risk using their own people as a human shield for when the inevitable retribution comes. And they don’t care! And those jews that haven’t personally done anything wrong, they’re just living their lives, they haven’t lied and cheated, like most jews do.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m sure there’s some out there that are innocent. Now these jews, &#8230; This is a time for them to come out and start to, for example, help get Monika out of prison, okay? This is something they can really put themselves on record as having done, which they will benefit from, when this lie goes over. They can say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Look! Here’s my accountable evidence that I tried to fight for the truth.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any jew that attacks us for being “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” deniers is guilty! And see, this is where even Gilad Aztmon, unfortunately, very recently, he used to claim he’s an “<em><i>ex-jew</i></em>”, but he still had so much jewishness in him, that he actually talked about the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” as if it were real!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[38:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Any mention of the “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” without qualifying it, for the fraud and lie that it is, is making a person guilty! The “<em><i>Holocaust</i></em>” and anybody who tries to hold that up, is guilty! That’s as simple as I can put it. I mean, I’m not going to be the judge where this thing goes down. The people in the world are going to be judging it. And I’m just saying, I’m doing everything I can. We are trying to resolve this peacefully! And peacefully means we have to face the facts, no matter what they are! We need to, don’t ignore 9/11, because jews did 9/11, and we don’t want to talk about it!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, I notice they’re talking more, a lot about USS Liberty now. But we need to talk about 9/11! We need to talk about Israel! We need to talk about the entire agenda that is being played out against us! Okay? , because the biological response is coming! And that’s what we are witnessing now. If you outlaw bad weather, and I’m the weatherman, and I predict bad weather, what are you going to do? Shoot me, because I’m predicting a storm?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’ve got the set up for a perfect storm. We are facing the perfect storm! And we have to prepare ourselves for that. So those people who are sitting on the couch thinking it’s all nice and quiet, &#8230; I crossed the Atlantic on a sailboat a number of times, and before a bad storm, it can be really nice on deck. But if you don’t get ready for it, with your sails, with just everything you have to do it, you will not survive the storm!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are coming into a storm and when we have masses of people that do not belong to us in our cities, and our infrastructure breaks down, we will have to deal with these people! And dealing with them will not be pretty! , because them going around taking what they want, is not the solution. It’s going to be, too many people on limited territory, with even more limited resources, and this used to be our territory! It used to be our civilisation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now we have our young people, they don’t even know which gender they are! Now do you understand what I’m getting at?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now they’re not confused about their gender, because that’s natural, that did not come, you know, as a natural organic kind of development. That came, because they were indoctrinated that way, by the jews! Not by us! By the jews! And that’s something that is a fact. And nobody can dispute that fact. So that’s what we’re facing so, you know, that’s what I think.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, I think what you said there too is an important point. And I’ve heard others, frame it in that way too. And I believe that there’s something to that. That basically the conditions that have been created, this powder keg condition really, that has been created, is something that people need to be aware of that it’s going to blow up! I’m with you on that page too. I think that if things can be solved peacefully, they should be. They should be addressed and tackled before it gets to that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that’s where most people decide to look away. And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>No, it’s too difficult, it is too painful</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t want to be called a racist for opposing migration.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever, despite the fact that they can see with their own eyes and experience in the real world, that things are getting worse in their own country. They’re being sidelined by their own government. Other people are being favored, before them, etc. Like, it’s their duty to save others and take care of others before their own people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:31]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, what you’re saying, and what I’ve heard other people say too, is that there’s an awful lot of anger and resentment, because of that. That’s building up, right? That eventually, down the line, if it gets that far, we don’t know where this is going to go. We don’t know if, let’s say the Europeans start fighting back, right? And all of a sudden it turns into, all of Europe turns into a Bosnia, or Kosovo, or something like that, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Let’s assume the rest of the world descends on Europe, and like, cleans it, cleans it out! , because we dared to fight back, against people that are trying to invade our lands. And once they’ve turned really hostile in an open level towards us, or something like that, who knows where this is going to go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But my point is, it should be resolved at this point. It should be addressed at this point, before it gets too far., because when people are realizing what has happened, they are probably going to ask questions:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Well, how did this happen? And who did this? </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these kinds of things, right? So that’s an important step, Alfred, in the process of just recognizing that isn’t it better to try to tackle and address these things now? And to try to prevent just the reaction of anger, and violence, and resentment, to bloom in the world! , because that’s when it really is going to start getting ugly, and you’re not going to be able to straighten anything out at that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You are not going to be able to make, you know, up, or down of anything, at that point. It’s just the going to be utter chaos! And I don’t want to see that! I know my lot of people don’t want to see that, either! So that’s why we have to address it. We have to be honest about what is going on. Why it’s happening. Who’s doing it<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[laughing]</strong></span> and try to straighten it out politically! And with political will, because I still think there is time to do that. We’re not a minority yet, in most of our countries. It’s heading that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wait another five, ten years in some countries, and it’s going to start heading in that way. But there’s still time. But it’s an incredibly difficult situation, because when these things have happened historically, if we’re honest about this and look at, you know, World Wars and conflicts on this level, and this scale, there’s always people who don’t deserve something, that have been squeezed in this situation. And they have taken the brunt end of what other people have done. And it’s kind of a messy situation, if, you know, what I mean.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! And going back to what you were saying before. Our empathy, or our bad feelings, or our guilt, and so forth, our pathological altruism is being used so against us. And part of the solution is overcoming these words that are triggering unhealthy responses, for example, “<em><i>racist</i></em>”, or “<em><i>anti-semitism</i></em>”. These are weaponized words that should be called out, as “<em><i>marked cards</i></em>” in a card game that we’re playing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anytime this word comes, stop it in it’s tracks and do never, ever, apologize! , because these are marked cards. If you’re playing a card game, and it’s about life and death, it’s about your future and your existence, and then sometime deep into the game, you realize you are being dealt marked cards, what do you do? I would call these cards out on the spot! And say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>That is a marked card! And explain that one to me! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So when somebody says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh! If you do that, you’re a racist! </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Pardon me. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Are you telling me that there is no difference between a race horse and a plow horse? Are you telling me, I am a race conservationist? </i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to conserve the races for what they are. They’re very different and that’s good. I am for multi-culturalism, and if we just sort of mix them all together, it’s a little bit like if I took your body, Henrik. Your bones are too White and hard, your brain is too gray and gooey, your liver is too brown and gooey, so I’m going to put you through the blender. Now I’ve got you multi-culturalized, but you’re very dead! That’s what this multiculturalism is with these people coming in, these hordes is going to do to us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And remember, it was the Europeans that are responsible for well over ninety percent of all technological inventions, that make our life what we know it today. And I’m not talking just about these inventions, I’m talking about music, and all these other things. And if we don’t keep this continent exclusively European, all that will be gone!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, our ancestors would never have achieved what they achieved, because they allowed the hordes out of Africa, or Asia to overwhelm them, because it was a good place to have a free lunch. You see, all these people coming and now, they’re coming here, because it’s a free lunch! They are actually people that are turning their backs on their own people, for a free lunch, at the cost of the Europeans!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now when you see a city like Malmo, or something, and there’s no Swedes left in there anymore, but all kinds of, there’s Muslims all over the place wearing hijabs, and so forth. Hey! That’s a colonization! They have colonized you! Now when your forefathers, the Vikings, I mean, they would roll over it disgust and shame, when they see what’s happened to their offspring! Their little boys are not even sure that they’re boys anymore! That, you know, that they think that this is a joke, or something! It’s not a joke, this is survival!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, and it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[47:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we do not have to, we are not obliged to feel sorry for any of these people. They have their homes! Ask them, why do you turn your back on your own people!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">You’ve something here? Then go back home! You’ve got your place. This is ours! And if you don’t understand what that means? Well see what happens to you if you stick around., because I’ll tell you, if you think the mood is getting bad now, just look around and see where it’s going. It’s not going to get prettier!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> No. That’s just it, and it’s horrendous, you know, that it’s that’s in the direction where it goes to. I still think, you know, I still think that the level of compassion that we have seen in the Indo-European mind, if you will, that we’re the ones who pushed the Human Rights. We’re the ones who came with the aspect of equality and egalitarianism. And although there’s follies in those proposals, those philosophical ideas, or errors in those ideas, I still think that appealing to compassion among our own people is still the successful recipe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know that there’s a lot of people out there, they’re way beyond that, they’re like, they’re ready to go to war, that kind of thing. They’re pissed off! They’re upset about this. They truly hate in that regard. And that isn’t their fault, they have been pushed in that direction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But just from a strategy kind of point of view, if that’s the right word to use, I think it was Frank Salter who talked about that. He said, and I think it was a good point, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You’re not going to initially get the majority of European people to drop the aspect of equality and compassion. But those are elements that you have to work with.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have to steer the conversation, not by coercion, because I think it’s just the truthful past, but you have to show that the long-term picture. That well, due to the compassion and the equality, and all those things that you’re enforcing right now. It is going to turn into a hellish scenario later on! We have to see the long-term picture, not just the short-term gratification that these people feel good, you know, internally, or emotionally. That:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>Oh I did something good today! </i></em>”, or, “<em><i>I help people</i></em>”, or “<em><i>I don’t say no! </i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em><i>I’m pro open borders, and therefore I’m a better person than you! </i></em>” and “<em><i>I’m open hearted and loving.</i></em>” and all that stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My point is, no! If you truly were open-minded, open hearted and warm, and have compassion in your heart, and thinking about people’s welfare in the future, you would see the big picture and say:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em><i>No! Wait a minute. This is leading to disaster, and so let’s try to prevent that.</i></em>”</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m what I’m saying, Alfred, is just I think that there’s still an unused, untapped territory within this debate in this topic, where we can try to show to our people that what you’re advocating for, if you’re a liberal, and if you’re open hearted like this. That, that path is going to lead to misery and conflict at the end of it. And if we can show that, there is some hope to turn more people over to our side if, you know, what I mean., because I’m certainly, I don’t come from a perspective of hate, although I understand why some people have become hateful, but I think it’s a very important to still appeal to compassion. Still appeal to the traits within us that are unique, to a certain extent, and that are much more open really, than many other groups around the world. What do you think about?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[51:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah. Since my own awakening and really understanding the absolute lies that have been foisted on us, I have, and you’re talking about love and compassion, I have a love and a compassion, and an understanding, for our ancestors, my parents, their grandparents, and so forth. That I never had before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And before, when I was still mentally ill, because of the indoctrination. I was a zombie okay, I confess, I was a zombie! There’s nothing shameful about that. We are all zombies at some time. There’s very few people that weren’t. And I did not have that respect, I sort of saw my ancestors as they were sort of anonymous, kind of far away. And now since understanding what they have gone through, as Germans, you know, and the expelling out of the east, the genocide, and so forth. And Dresden, and all these things, I have a compassion and an understanding and respect for them I never knew I had.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it’s like, I think it was Plato had said, that “<em><i>people without roots have no direction</i></em>”. And you have to understand your forefathers to have roots. These are our roots! And somebody who thinks they’re a good person, because everybody is equal, they’re just believing just total nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, look at the birds. Are all the birds the same? No. There’s sparrows, there’s seagulls, there’s hawks. There’s all kinds of different birds. They’re not all the same! And neither are we! Have you ever seen a pygmy excel at high jumping? And I haven’t. So they’re not equally see. Now, if Europeans and Africans are the same, why is it that the Africans didn’t even invent so much as the wheel, and we invented all kinds of fancy things? Everything!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When you see Africans walking around now in our cities with the latest iPhone, well good for them. But they didn’t invent those things. They got them given to them by people like George Soros. So, we are not equal! So anybody who says, you know:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em><i>Oh, if you think everyone is equal, you’re a better person.</i></em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I say these people are mentally retarded. They’re mentally crippled. They’re victims of the psychological warfare. They have been contaminated with these lies!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> It’s what is used against us to make sure that we agree with the agenda. They’ve found a kind of code, a mechanism in us, by using our compassion against us, right? They’ve used, to certain extent, our strength against us, and said — it’s not our only strong ability obviously, but it’s a big part of it — and they’ve unlocked that, and said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em><i>You know what, let’s twist and turn the situation like this, and say you’re compassionate if you allow XYZ, and that’s kind of, &#8230; It’s like a code that they’ve broken, right?</i></em></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[54:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Yes. They use our strong characteristics and turn them around so elegantly, slowly over a period of time, and then, until we use it against us. Our women are standing some place with “<em><i>Refugees Welcome</i></em>” <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[signs]</strong></span>. That is absolute suicide! In past generations, had any women done that, they would have been flogged! They would have been thrown out of society. They would have been the most disgusting pieces a crap, pardon my language, but that’s what it is.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And here they are being, by the jewish media, they are being held up in high esteem, as the most honorable people! They are doing something treasonous, that is suicidal. And that is our demise! We are not equal! No. Get that idea out of your mind.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We are very different, and that’s good that we’re different. We grew up in different geographies, at different rates, at different times. That’s good, we’re all different, there’s nothing wrong with that, you know. And that’s the reality.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, when things get tight, and things get scarce, and we understand that we are defending the homeland, and the invaders are defending a free lunch, we have a different motivation to get back what is rightfully ours. And that’s what I’m confident that we’re going to do this right!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right. The last final point on this Alfred, before we start rounding up here.</p>
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<p>Obviously the migration, the refugee waves, and all that kind of stuff that we’ve seen, it’s a very kind of, “<em><i>in your face</i></em>” and direct assault, an attack. At these for those who are paying attention. Again <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong> </span>many others see this as, “<em><i>oh! I’m helping! </i></em>” you know, it’s like Ralph Wiggum.</p>
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<p>But here’s other ways, there’s a cold, if that’s the hot war, so to speak, or a warm war, and there’s a cold war as well. And we just briefly talked about this in the break. For example, what happened in the wake of Charlottesville, stuff like that. A lot of things unfolded after that point. We don’t have to get into all that, it’s a big story. But what triggered that is, of course, that people were basically, they wanted to protest against the removal of statues in the South, for example, in the States. And this is something that happens in many parts of Europe now, as well. The UK have started, I believe Germany is on that path to. Where basically if it’s an old the dead White guy, right, then that needs to be torn down and attacked and stuff like that.</p>
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<p>But, just for a moment, maybe we can talk about what an act of, not only violence, but as you say, it’s colonialism. It’s just full on takeover where, you know, the people who built our countries that have given everyone in that country the fruits of what they have, included those newcomers, that have just come in. The utter disrespect and the utter, I just, it’s disgusting! I don’t know what else to call it. The way that they are tearing down these statues, they’re renaming schools, they’re removing our history. They’re just rewriting it as if these men never existed at all! That’s what I feel it’s about. It’s almost like it is sleight of hand of saying, you know, this never existed! There’s no such thing as a White country! It’s like a Jeddi mind trick, or something.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This is one of the symptoms of the genocide that is being perpetrated against us! See, if we don’t even respect those people who our ancestors knew were real true heroes, like Robert E. Lee was a real true hero! Now when they take any of these statues down we should be out there by the thousands, or the hundreds of thousands, and keep that statue up! And if you take one down, we put at one that’s twice as big, in it’s place! How can anybody respect us if we have such low self-respect, that we allow anybody — the jews are the ringleaders of those people taking these things down — that is our identity. Those are our ancestors! We are all we are all obliged to be even just only half as heroic, and keep that statue up there!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, they take one down, we to put one twice as big back up, and another one on top! Like we cannot let that happen. That is our genocide!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right! Showing some of the pictures here, this is from Dallas. It’s amazing this has happened, in so many places, around the US, right now. They just take these statues down. Here’s a Robert E. Lee Park in Arlington, in Dallas. It’s just absolutely amazing that these boys here, the cops, the suits, they just line up to defend this action. I don’t think they know truly what they’re doing. But I hope that they’re angry. I hope that some know. I hope that some realize.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because this is the jew!</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>The goyim will be agents, instruments of their own destruction!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">When our security people are making sure they can remove these statues, yeah, it’s like saying:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Let me stick this knife into my heart. Let me just kill myself! And let’s have everybody help me kill myself!</em>”</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is our suicide! These are real points, this is a real actionable item if you want to say. Taking down a statue like that should not happen! That should be put back in there, no matter how we do it, we have to get the statues back to where they were.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">What are they going to put there in it’s place? A statue of Martin Luther King, you know, this drinking, partying, sex pervert that they stylized up to be our hero and make a national holiday! Taking our ancestors, our heroes that built the country, down, and putting these perverts in their place? Putting some fagot their place? No, no, no! That can’t be it. If we are that weak and cannot prevent that from happening, then we will deserve the demise that we will be facing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> All right. Interesting conversation. Lot to chew on here, of course. Let’s see what people think. Lots of interesting points, Alfred. I want to thank you for your time today. It was very interesting having you back and, of course, I want to wish you and your sister the best, in the whatever now, is going to happen. The legal battles.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[60:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>I mean, it’s a is an extraordinary situation, and I urge and I hope, no matter if people agree, or not, with the kind of things that Monika and yourself talk about, that they recognize that this is a clear violation of all the things that they claim that they’re fighting for, for other people.</p>
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<p>So it should be a huge free speech issue! There should be number of people just rallying to this cause, getting vocal and loud about it, making sure that they help Monika out of prison and then that she gets not only fair treatment, but that they explain to her, why they’re holding her, and that she actually can reach out to you.</p>
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<p>So, is there anything, last words you like to say about, if you guys have a strategy, legally, to get her out, or what?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">The strategy is there’s no way to get her out legally! We’re going to get her out with pure pressure! People writing letters. Write her letters make sure that, you know, you see through their lies. The address, it’s in multiple blogs. Go to the “<strong><em>We are Monika</em></strong>” blog and the address is there. Write, the political prisoner <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong>, and so forth. You don’t have to write much. Just say, we’re thinking of you, and thanks for your struggle.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-16919" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="774" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">See: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/01/14/andrew-hitchcock-with-alfred-schaefer-how-you-can-help-monika-schaefer-transcript/">Andrew Hitchcock with Alfred Schaefer – How YOU Can Help Monika Schaefer! — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we are at war with insanity! Okay? This is a war against thinking, working, people. And if we don’t win, then this earth is going to become a hell hole! So we are trying to basically save civilization, we’re going to do this as peacefully as possible as possible in a civilized way as possible. And jews have the opportunity now to prove that they are actually not guilty, by making an effort to get Monika out! Write a letter, you know, say and write that:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I’m a jew and I will I think it’s not right and the “</em><em><i>Holocaust</i></em>”, I’m sorry that we’re part of this monstrous lie.”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That would be a good start and can be very good in your defence when this lie goes over.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I would not want to be a jew at this point in time, if I didn’t do something to help bring the truth out! And that’s about all I can say at this point. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure, you got it! So there’s the address anyway right there on the screen, but it’s a video right there on the link to the website, that will leave down below, as well. So check that out folks.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much Alfred for coming on. Keep us posted on in terms of what’s going on. I’m really interested in following the case, and I wish you and your sister all the best. And thank you for daring to speak your truth and following through on it. I know that there’s tremendous pressure involved in that. I know it’s incredibly difficult but, you know, for you guys to dare to walk your own path, that’s an extraordinary thing to do in these times of conformity. So thank you Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Thank you Henrik. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Well guys, that concludes our show. A big “<em>Thank You</em>” to all our members. We are really picking up the frequency of shows and videos, and <em><strong>Weekend Warrior</strong></em> shows.</p>
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<p>Once again, we’re really excited about this year. A lot of good things are in the works and a lot of exciting things are going to happen. We have a lot of plans. So thank you for being part of Red Ice for supporting us for helping us to grow. Take care folks and we’ll be back before you know it! See you soon.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust&#8220;. In Part &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/02/04/red-ice-tv-thought-criminal-monika-schaefer-arrested-and-imprisoned-in-germany-part-1-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Henrik</strong> of <strong>Red Ice Radio</strong> interviews Canadian-German activist <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> on the situation surrounding his sister&#8217;s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called &#8220;<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>&#8220;. In Part 1 here, Alfred explains the intellectual journey that both of them took to arrive at the position that Western Civilization is being destroyed by organized jewry through a long term strategy of psychological </span><span style="color:#008000;">and physical subversion, with them, for example, being the power behind the invasion of Western countries by non-Whites.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; that is used by organized jewry as a &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Alfred is a tireless and impassioned &#8220;<em>man on a mission</em>&#8221; to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a &#8220;<em>thought criminal</em>&#8220;, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany —<strong> KATANA</strong>.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Write to Monika now, at:</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Monika Schaefer.</span><br />
<span style="color:#008000;"> Stadelheim Prison.</span><br />
<span style="color:#008000;">Schwarzenbergstr. 14<br />
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#ff0000;">Monika Schaefer</span></h1>
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<h1 class="yt watch-title-container" style="text-align:center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#0000ff;">in Germany</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align:center;"> Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">In the members’ hour, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the freefall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Henrik and Alfred go on to discuss the severity of the current geopolitical situation as an existential crisis; the importance of pursuing moderate solutions to avoid widespread conflict; and much more.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Henrik here with Red Ice TV. Thank you so much for tuning in. It’s always a pleasure having you with us. Today we have a issue of free speech coming to you a little bit over a year ago we had a gentleman called Alfred Schaefer on the show. I think we had him on twice actually, and his sister as well, Monika. We did a show with her. She had actually done a five-minute video that was called, “<em><strong>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “<em>Holocaust</em></strong>”. </em>Which was a very good video. It was an honest, very down-to-earth video about her own kind of personal and emotional experiences growing up in Germany <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Canada]</strong></span>, all the things that she was taught, etc. And<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[01:01]</strong> </span>her basically waking up to a kind of a different story, if you will.</p>
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<p>And this has, in hindsight, caused a ruckus not only, of course, in Canada where she and Alfred was living, but now they’ve gone back to Germany. And they’re it’s, you know, this has intensified, if you will. So we have Alfred back with us on the show here today. And I shall go through some of this and talk a bit more in detail about what actually happened. And I want to Alfred. Welcome first of all, but I want everyone, kind of don’t assume that people know the case. Let’s talk about it from the beginning and what actually happened Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Good. I’ll just go back to the summer of 2016. Monika was here with Professor Tony Anthony Hall and we did a number of video productions. And what really rocked the boat here was a five, or six minute video that Monika did, one in German, one in English. It’s called “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em>”. And in this video, a very heartfelt video, she explained how she<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[02:02]</strong></span> growing up in Canada as a German. And how the propaganda, when we started being indoctrinated with the propaganda, the people in school like back at that time, the Germans were vilified, really vilified, to the max!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That was like twenty years after, well that was in the 60s so that was 20 years after the end of hostilities, of what we call World War Two. And Monika described how she experienced that as a youngster in school, when she wore her traditional German dress and how the people mocked her. And then she started reproaching, to she eventually reproached our parents, particularly her our mom, for what the evil Nazis did., because when you are told as a little child these kinds of stories you just assume that you’re being told the truth, you just would not imagine that you would be lied to by those people who you trust who you look up to.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anything they tell you believe it. I mean, that’s our nature. If you’re growing up and your parents tell you to this, or that you have to believe it, because if you don’t you wouldn’t survive. If your parents tell you don’t go jumping in that pond, because there’s alligators there and you don’t listen, well you get eaten by the alligators. So it’s our nature, our inherent nature to believe what we are told.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this has been used against us to inculcate us and indoctrinate us with these stories which vilify our own ancestry, our own heritage. So Monika went to her mom and she says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Mom why didn’t you do something to stop these evil Nazis?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so forth. And then later on, not that long ago, she figured out, “<em>well geez this is all lies</em>”. And she told me that once and I says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, Monika we have to make a video out of that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So we did that. She wrote a beautiful text. She was here on a visit and she gets in front of the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[04:01]</strong></span> camera and we made this video, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And it got it really took off well. And then the Israeli, the jews got wind of it. And it was all over the Israeli press it in multiple languages. They were just really:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Wow, you know, this politician Canadian politician denies the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” in a video!”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And what really shook them, rattled their cage, was there had not been a video of this kind before, where you’re really basically undoing so much of the psychological warfare they have done against us. And this was basically undoing it in one big swoop.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they were very nervous about that. And they tore her to pieces! And vilified her! And then when Monika went back to Jasper <strong>[Alberta, Canada]</strong>, she had to endure the most extreme ritual defamation you could possibly imagine. And thank God that Monika has <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[05:00]</strong> </span>the spirit that she does, because not many people would have survived that. I mean, she basically lost pretty much all her violin students, and people were strongly:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It was just like the witch trials 300 to 400 years ago. Just amazing.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah! Exactly! That’s absolutely true and it’s amazing that of course, you know, we don’t even have to get into the mechanics of what it is that Monika actually believes. It’s the audacity that she has come to a different conclusion that other people, than the masses, than the majority. I mean, I we know, of course, that this is punishable a crime in many countries now to think differently about a historical event.</p>
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<p>Which is amazing and it amazing that so few free speech activists come out in support of these people who have come to a different conclusion. And in it’s in this case I think they want to make an example, not only out of her, but we know other scenarios in Germany, like <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, of course. And I forget the older lady’s name now, obviously you, you know.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: <span style="color:#0000ff;">Ursula Haverbeck</span></strong>.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Haverbeck. Thank you. Yes absolutely. So they’ve gone after older women on this now in Germany! I mean, it’s absolutely fascinating., but tell us first, how did, &#8230; Was in Canada did you guys decide to go back to Germany what happened there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> Y<span style="color:#0000ff;">eah she came she was wondering, she wanted us to, you know, we wanted to connect up again and she has a lot to do in Canada, so she figured sort of on the spur of the moment, she’s gonna go visit Alfred in Germany now at Christmastime. So she gets on the plane, you know, hops over here, and we have just a wonderful time. And I told my comrades here, you know, Monika’s coming and so forth. And then Henry Hoffenmayer says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hey, we can go visit the trial of Sylvia Stolz, which is a Munich on the 3rd of January, if your sister’s here. We’ll just have a look at that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it’s real spur-of-the-moment decision. We went there, we go there as quiet observers. And watching these proceedings was beyond bizarre. It really is an inquisition! They would refer we<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[07:02]</strong> </span>were sitting in the back there, then in comes Sylvia Stolz and her attorney. And at the front are this decrepit snake of a state prosecutor, and the other people that are in there, which are, you know </span><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Alfred laughs]</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then if Sylvia Stolz and her attorney would be, you’re talking about like explaining things, you know, this and that. And no matter how logically and precise they would explain something, the state prosecutor would brush it aside with just a simple, you know, “<em>jibber-jabber</em>” that didn’t even make sense. So this is the nature of an inquisition. An inquisition is like in the old days. They would put you in a sack, throw you out in the water, and if you sank you were innocent. And if you stayed on top, you are guilty and will be tortured. You cannot win in an inquisition. And these trials are an inquisition. There is no hope in hell and they try to bind these people<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[08:00]</strong> </span>in this legal process here. To drain them of all their resources, tie them up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, if you see these people, how much money they are being paid by the taxpayer and by the poor victim! And it goes days and days and they just, it’s a jibber-jabber nonsense. It’s utter destructive nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, we were in that courtroom there and somebody behind us, or beside her, somewhere, said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh that must be Monika Schaefer! I mean, that’s her, we recognize her.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so they called for a surprise break about 45 minutes into the hearings there. And so we says okay, we stretch our legs, go outside. We step outside the room and then this different state prosecutor comes, accompanied by three very heavily, well armed thugs, kind of thing. And they asked her:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They took her to the side and they were talking with her, slapped her<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[09:01]</strong> </span>in handcuffs and dragged her off.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Right there?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Right there and then! Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Absolutely! Did you get, I mean, did you guys have any suspicions about this, or like?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">No, no! It was a total surprise.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik:</strong> Not paranoid to show up in public like, after that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> And the funny thing is, I thought okay they must have, they probably arrested her for things that we had done while she was here., because we had a guy come from France, another, you know, a guy who was, well I hate using the word “<em>revisionist</em>”, a person exposing historical truth. And he came here, because he felt so alone there in Paris.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when he was here, and he played the accordion, a really good accordion a player. And so Monika and him were making music every day. We were just doing cultural things. And one day we went to Andechs</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[a hilltop Benedictine monastery, church &amp; medieval pilgrimage center with a brewery &amp; a beer garden]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;">, which is a monastery nearby here with a beautiful beer garden and so forth. And we’re in this beer hall and then the brass band came in and it’s pretty filled up with people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika was</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[10:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">just so elated with energy, she stood up and gave the Roman salute!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[both laughing]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And, you know, what happened? Well somebody else behind her gave the Roman salute! And nobody came and, you know, and says, “<em>Hey you Nazis!</em>”, or anything. And people were chuckling and sort of, “<em>Oh, what’s going on here?</em>” But people were giving us a thumbs up and so forth.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then, when she was arrested then a few days later at the court, at the &#8220;<em>inquisition</em>&#8221; of <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>, I was sure it was for this incident! , but it wasn’t. It was actually for “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”. So with this, I say this is the most spectacular “<em>own goal</em>” that I have ever seen anybody make! I mean, Sylvia Stolz, they were trying to basically put her, flush her down the memory hole. And they’d love it if Monika would just disappear., but now they have elevated both of these courageous women, right onto center stage on the world stage. And that’s where we need them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this might be some discomfort for Monika for a while., but</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[11:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">the week that we had here before this happened, she had her batteries charged up to the max with wonderful dialogues we had. The conversations we had. With the cultural events with the Roman salute at <strong>Andechs</strong> there. And the positive feedback she got from that. So it’s good.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now she knows, she’s very well aware of the importance of the role that she is in right now. And there’s no resolving this in their “<em>jewdicial</em>” system. We to resolve this on the political level. So we are going to amplify this and make it make it as embarrassing as possible for the powers that be. They need to know it is time to come out with a White flag and apologize for all these lies, because they cannot possibly stop it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">There’s trying to stop it with extreme censorship here. Oh, let me just say one thing. When Monika came here and before her arrest, and she’s doing her her mail, or emails</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[12:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">and we’re looking a lot on the internet, and she says:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">All the stuff that she could still see in Canada, like videos and so forth, it’s all blocked here. It’s extreme censorship right now. And it’s accelerating. It’s intensifying. So they think, in their hubris, that they can keep the lies covered by censoring., but I always say, if you have a small child at home and you say, “<em>do not look in this drawer here!</em>” And then you go out of the room, where’s the first drawer that the person’s got the child’s going to look in? Precisely that drawer they’re not supposed to look. This is human nature and this our curiosity. And I mean, it’s our nature. We want to know what’s going on around us.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Exactly. Well I mean, the important thing to remember too is, of course, that this is not hurting anyone. This is a victimless crime and it’s a personal investigation, if you will, that someone is doing into a historical event. It’s their choice, it’s not<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[13:01]</strong></span>, you know, hurting anyone else.</p>
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<p>And the fact is that I mean, we know that in Germany this has been made a crime. And I believe that, if I recall the statutes correctly, was basically it has been established by law what the history is. And if you do come with a different conclusion then you’re breaking that law of the established history. And so what has she found out consequently? Are you in communication with her every day, every other day, and what’s the charges and stuff like this? Tell us about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay, first of all, we are trying to communicate with her. It is not possible. She is completely isolated from the outside world now. She’s not isolated from the other inmates, but she is completely isolated from us and the outside world. We had the Canadian Consulate go there and that was a not easy to get that arranged. But the Canadian Consulate did go there. Actually, as a woman and a man, a consul and the Consul General, or something like that.</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[14:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then they said afterwards:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s the rules they have. And they cannot get involved in the legalities. So it’s basically, well this is a dark time in our history, right now, that this is happening.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And will Canada fight for it? I mean, if she’s not been extradited, &#8230; But how can she end up under the jurisdiction of German law? They haven’t explained this, I would reckon? They just snatched her, and that’s it?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">They snatched her! This is a completely illegal thing! This is outside of law and order as we know it. And, you know, I’ll tell you how obscene this whole thing has become. I was just raided a couple days ago, again, and it is, because of the shitstorm that we’re stirring up with Monika’s arrest. So they’re really unhappy now. But it shows that we’re on the right track, because even uncle Adolf, or Adolf Hitler, he used to say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>If the jews are not attacking you, it’s, because your work is mediocre. It’s not really doing much.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[15:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Once they notice you and they start attacking you, it’s, because they are afraid that you are making inroads into their construct of lies. So yeah, that’s where we are now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What about Canada? Have they as you said, okay they visited the consulate there, but have they not tried to say:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#333333;">“<em>Hey this is a Canadian citizen! You can’t just take him!</em>” right?</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No! If you look at the Canadian government, they are even more repulsive and they are even lower down than the German government. All of our governments in the Western world right now are about as low as they can get! And that’s a problem now, because they have all been maneuvered into the positions that they find themselves in, because of their corrupt morals. They can be manipulated and they will do as their jewish masters expect them to! And no Canadian government, no German government, no government is going to help her!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[16:01]</strong><br />
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">This is something that we have to resolve basically from the bottom. From just a massive awareness. And right now, Monika is one of the most valuable fulcrums that we have to leverage this message out there. Because even those who think that life consists of sitting on a couch watching TV, even some of these zombies will start to understand that when they take somebody, throw her in jail, just arrest her on the spot, throw her in jail, because of a heartfelt apology to her mother!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time that these hordes and hordes of military-age black and brown men, like a tsunami of them, are flowing into our countries, and they get a free pass to do anything they want! They even get helpers to show them how to get this and get that from our society! They get benefits and somebody who comes to the logical conclusion, because they’ve looked at the evidence they get thrown in jail</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[17:00]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">That is something that needs to be addressed. And this is something that will affect each and every one of us. Nobody is going to escape this imbalance that we have in our system right now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah definitely. There’s a legal inconsistency for sure here. I mean, there are actually victims of rape, etc., that are not getting the aid of the law. The full reach of the law, if you will. There are many people that actually walk free. I’ve heard cases, Lana <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Henrik’s co-host and wife]</strong></span> did a video just a couple of weeks ago about a few of these cases, where they walk free. And I think some of the judges have said:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Well they, it’s a cultural, they don’t understand the culture. They just need to be educated, basically.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>So they there let go! But the point is, that’s a clear crime with a victim. In this case, there’s no victim. No one is being hurt. But maybe someone is “<em>offended</em>” by it, right? Because these are awful opinions to have, or whatever. But there’s no victim here! And so the imbalance is just completely out of whack. And it’s clear to me that<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[18:00]</strong> they’re making examples out of these women to make sure that people are scared away from not only looking at this stuff, but basically they should be afraid of thinking for themselves. That’s ultimately what this is about I feel.</span></p>
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<p>And they’ve picked off on this issue because, of course, it’s very important to them for people to be guilt-ridden, and basically have this new theology of guilt and victimhood. And this is the choice, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Absolutely! Now there’s so many facets to this “<em>Holocaust</em>” lie. And right now I think it’s important that I focus all my work now on trying to articulate the big picture. I know Monika, when she was here, we came to the same conclusions. That once you understand the big picture, that the components of this big picture are much easier to understand. And they all make sense! It all falls into place!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s a little bit like if you’re standing really close to a huge picture, like a billboard, and you can only just see the big pixels, or something that</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[19:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">are this big and you cannot make any sense out of each of these pixels. But when you stand back and see the whole picture, it all makes sense. And this “<em>Holocaust</em>” thing, you know, some people think it’s just a scam for money. No, no, that’s just gravy that they sort of managed to harvest at this point in time.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the real, or original purpose of the “<em>Holocaust</em>” was to divert attention away from the massive genocides that took place behind what was, what we used to call the Iron Curtain, under the name of communism. Now for us growing up in the West back then and when that Iron Curtain was still in place. What was behind the Iron Curtain separated us, we were the good people and the democrats, from the evil people. And those were the communists!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now that’s the way that situation was interpreted for us. And it’s only now, in recent times, actually, quite recently for myself and like my sister Monika, and many other people, that we are beginning to</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[20:01]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">understand that both sides of this Iron Curtain were run by Talmudic jews, right from the start.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And as so if we want to understand the jewish problem, we have to actually go back, you know, for today’s world, basically to the French Revolution. But the jewish problem actually goes back thousands and thousands of years. And these people have honed their skills in manipulating people, having them at each other’s throats, that they start killing each other off. And the jew is there, controlling both sides, cleaning up and then penetrating ever deeper into the fabric of these peoples that have been at each other’s throats. And that’s what we see now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Under communism there were genocides on the other side that killed tens of millions, possibly over a hundred million people, of the best people. And most of these were our brothers and sisters, our European kinfolk! They were just like us!</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[21:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they were butchered, massacred most brutally and — what better way to divert attention away from that, than this crazy “<em>Holocaust</em>” story? Plus, they had to have a way to justify — what they called the Allies, our European people that they manipulated — to bomb the hell out of the heart of Europe, which was Germany. To make sure that they could understand why they did it when they saw the mayhem, by vilifying those people that now lay traumatized and genocided and on the ground.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Just start making making up fantastic crimes and they are too traumatized to be able to defend themselves. And that’s, in a nutshell, what this “<em>Holocaust</em>”, the purpose that it has been.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now it’s used to keep us — to destroy our ability to defend ourselves, plus it gives the jew a shield behind which he can perpetrate and commit any crime he wants to. And that’s where we find ourselves.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[22:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now there might be people watching, listening, that don’t kind of know the arguments that you’ve made. They don’t, or agree, or whatever. I’m sure there’s some that are as well. But what I want them to understand is basically, I want them to put it into context, into other events, other similar, as you say, genocides throughout history.</p>
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<p>I believe that there’s no other genocide that has occurred that you could be prosecuted for claiming that it didn’t happen. This is, it’s a very unique case, if you will, historically speaking. About what you’re allowed and not allowed to do. And as we know, as I’ve said many times, it’s, of course, worse in Germany, but I just I don’t understand why many of the free speech activists are not coming out in support of people like <strong>Monika</strong>, and <strong>Sylvia</strong>, and <strong>Haverbeck</strong>, and all these other women, and men too, for that matter.</p>
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<p>There’s many men as we know, <strong>Ernst Zündel</strong> passed away not too long ago, of course, he was a big hero, also a Canadian<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[23:01]</strong> </span>citizen. He was, I believe, he was also extradited to Germany and was put in prison there. So this Canada-German relationship is kind of historically there as well in this case. But there should be much more uproar about this. I mean, what about Monika’s civil rights? What about her abusers? What about her her right to think differently? And I mean, and that’s what I want people primarily to focus on. And if they disagree with you Alfred on the historical issue, put that to the side for now, and just think of the case itself, and what it represents.</p>
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<p>Because as you say, this is a witch trial! It is that these people have been demeaned and dehumanized, right? And wasn’t that a crime that they’ve said the Nazis did? They dehumanized people and all that kind of stuff? So in a way they’re doing exactly the same thing in depriving people’s right and freedom, because they think differently. And this should be a free speech issue. And why isn’t it? Why is it that no one dares to <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[24:01]</strong> </span>touch this, or what is it, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I’ll tell you why people are not speaking up. It’s, because this indoctrination that we have all been victims of, has the same effect on our ability to think as does a lobotomy. Now a lobotomy is when they used to separate the two halves of your brain physically. And they would make out of what they would call violent criminals in the prison system, or something, they’d make them into docile zombies. Because they’d separate the two brain halves.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now this psychological warfare that we have all become victims of to some degree, or the other, has the same effect on us as does this lobotomy. It compartmentalizes your thinking, so that you are not able to think anymore and you have been conditioned to behave like a dog, like Pavlov’s dog.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, that’s where this whole psychological science basically comes from. They wanted to know how we can condition people to behave, to obey in lockstep altogether. And these people are experts at <strong>[25:00]</strong> that. And that’s what they’ve done! We have been conditioned. Actually, our fellow human beings have been conditioned to have an allergic reaction, an aggressive, allergic reaction against those people who reveal the truth. Because as soon as you talk about the facts, the evidence that this “<em>Holocaust</em>” is all bunk, then you are immediately labeled as a “<em>Nazi</em>”, or a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And we have been taught, through conditioning, that these things are “<em>evil</em>”! So people have been reduced really to, like little children that you can tell them there’s a some kind of a monster, or something, or don’t look under your bed, there’s a golem, or something there. They have reduced us to a very, very low state.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">At the same time, they are telling us about tolerance, and if you want to be a little girl and you’re actually a boy, you can do that and nobody can tell you otherwise. So they’re getting the people confused, full</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[26:02]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">of fear, confused, and reduced to the most basic animalistic level. And they say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, if they’re throwing old women in jail for years and years for “</em><em>Holocaust</em>” denial, then obviously, they must be really bad!”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, this is how simple their thinking is.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> But now, as they see the reality of our world in free fall, in collapse, imploding, there’s more and more people that are beginning to understand that life does actually consist of much more than “<em>fun and games</em>”. And these fun and games that we have been indulging in, were the distraction to keep us away from seeing what has been going on behind the scenes.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now taking us into these times right now. Look at 9/11! They don’t even talk about 9/11 at all anymore! In any way, good, or bad, or anything! Because they know that everybody’s figured that one out. So they figure, if we just don’t talk about it at all, it’ll disappear out of our memory</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[27:01]</strong></span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">Because if it’s not covered on TV and radio, or in the magazines, people won’t see it. And they just think it’s not important, because it’s not talked about.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But they do talk about all the time about:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh how wonderful when these black men can mate with the White women!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And all the advertising is reflecting that. So yeah, we have to wake up to the biological aspect of the situation in which we find ourselves. And that is basically, in a nutshell, the jew has declared war on the White race! And we are now at five minutes before 12!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have to wake up! Understand what’s happening, and come into the healing mode.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And when I see what’s going on in the world today, we are now in that initial phase of the healing. And no organism can heal, until it understands that it’s under attack, identifies the problem and</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[28:01]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">only then can it kick into gear and do something about it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s why I am optimistic. And I see that, what they’ve done to Monika, they served us that on a silver platter! And I can only say, “<em>thanks jews!</em>” You did a fine job! If the doctor had to prescribe something for us that would have been perfect for helping our cause, then this would have been it! We would have had to pay millions of dollars in advertising to get this kind of exposure to this problem. And they’ve given it to us at the trial of <strong>Silvia Stolz</strong>, and I want to say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Thanks jews! You did a good job!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> I wonder what, normal, so to speak, “<em>normies</em>” think about the case if and when they hear about it. And, as we can see obviously in some of the headlines, she’s already a convicted “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. Although there hasn’t been a trial, the issue hasn’t been, you know, stated. It hasn’t been sorted out. What does she actually believe historically? It is <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[29:00]</strong> </span>like this, literally like she has some kind of, you know, virus, or parasite! That she’s become smitten with this thing, which they need to keep it at a distance, kind of thing!</p>
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<p>And that’s how they treat people these days. Just as you said, despite the preachment of the times is really, you know, accept those who think differently and you shouldn’t be afraid of the things you don’t understand, and all this kind of stuff. And I’m just so sick and fed up with the hypocrisy of what they’re trying to push in our faces! To get us to accept the kind of things that we don’t like! Of course, we have to be tolerant, we have to, &#8230; But they don’t have to be tolerant at all! See, they don’t have to back down and say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Okay, it’s fine. She’s not hurting anyone. Let her believe what she wants to.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Right? No! Instead they want to make a case out of her! They want to jail her and stuff.</p>
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<p>But what do you think is gonna happen next? I know this is very difficult for you to predict, if you will, or kind of project, but you have<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[30:00]</strong></span> been raided. There’s been people coming into your home. Tell us a little bit about that, and if there’s been any information shared with you at that point, about what actually is going on, and what they’re seeking to do.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> They are in a panic, because they see their work, they’ve worked like, how many long, 2,000 years, or something, for world domination? They feel they’re so close to it, they can finally, it’s within a reach. But the closer they get, the closer they have this, the more insane they go!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what we’re witnessing now. And there is no stopping the truth anymore! And you’re just talking about before, you know, there’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier. People have to understand that anybody who still believes in this utter bullshit nonsense, will not be taken seriously. And in only a very, very short time from now, not one person in our civilization will admit that they ever believed this “<em>Holocaust</em>” nonsense!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And yet, like I was in Canada in the summer on a speaking tour, and I just saw the hysteria! Everything seems to revolve around if someone’s a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier, or not, or</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[31:00]</strong> </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">if there are a White supremacist, or a racist. And that’s all that counts! Nothing else seems to matter.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">You know, people are living in a fantasy world that is a bubble, that’s going to burst! And they have to start to understand the reality of what’s going on around them, because that’s all we’ve got! Now, if we have hordes and absolute hordes of Third World criminals out of the prison systems, of the Third World, coming into our countries, we have to deal with them when everything breaks down. And that’s coming.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the jew World Order that they’re trying to impose on us is this ridiculous “<em>Holocaust</em>” religion, and you’re supposed to go down on your knees and pray to that every day. And at the same time you are going to be disenfranchised. You are going to be running in your little hamster wheel. And then you’re so exhausted at the end of the day, you lay down, sit in front of the TV, eat poisonous food, drink poisonous water, and then get back in your hamster wheel, and the jew World Order’s controlling everything.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what the whole thing is with</span><span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[32:00]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">the EU and everything. They try to make more and more laws that are making it ever more difficult for the small, you know, the bakeries, the small shop owners, the small farmers, to make it to make it so they cannot operate anymore, because they got a million rules! Always more rules making it ever more difficult for them to operate, so that eventually everything is just huge, great big, collectivized, you know, food productions, factories. And everybody will find their place somewhere as an insignificant little little grain of sand in this huge apparatus. And as soon as you step out of line, you will simply be shut off! You say the wrong word, they’ll just shut off your digital code and that’s it, you can die.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And now the jews actually think they can replace us, who created the civilization, and have these lower IQ people flooding in. Get rid of us, so they’re not threatened anymore. And it’s just a complete total insanity. If we don’t deal with it, then we will actually find ourselves exterminated!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[33:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, I always say the Europeans have always excelled best when they have been forced to survive, because of harsh conditions. And when this breaks down, we will find ourselves in extremely harsh conditions that today would seem unimaginable, but that will be the test of fire. We survive, or we die! We swim, or we sink! And that’s what we’re facing. And I believe that when these times come, that’s when we will find our true purpose and meaning in life and we will deal with the parasites and the invaders.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Interesting. I want to return to that a little bit later, maybe in the second part of the show., but let let’s deal with this issue here. This article, The Times of Israel, states the following:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Authorities say Monika Schaefer is suspected of spreading hate material on the Internet.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Right? And in the beginning I played the video and, of course, I saw, Alfred. It’s on your<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[34:01]</strong> </span>channel. I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken down, but it has obviously been put in a limited state so people can’t see, or quarantine, as they call it, right? There’s no comments, you can’t see how many views there are, and all this kind of stuff. Has Monika actually, I mean, is this the only video they’re referring to? Or does she have a website herself and released other material, or is it just this video, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> This video is the one that really rattled their cage. And I’m glad they are sort of focusing on this video, because it is the best shortest piece of material that undoes so much of their psychological warfare, that we have been victimized with. You have to understand the psychological warfare, how it’s a very incremental process and it’s a trans-generational incremental process.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I’ll go a little bit off-topic here, just to illustrate what I’m talking about.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> Now if you took any one of our grandparents, or<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[35:01]</strong> </span>great-grandparents, and if they have to see how their ten-year-old boys are being taught in school. That they can cut off their penis and become a girl, they can be anything they want, our great-grandparents would have gone to that school with their pitchforks, or something! Would have speared that teacher, dragged him outside, strung them up in a tree! And no other teacher would ever dare to do that again! , because they still had healthy morals. And nobody with healthy morals would tolerate ten-year-olds, the most vulnerable of our people, the children being taught anal sex in school, and they can be any gender they want.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s what they have brought us down to! Now the only reason that the parents are not doing that now is, because these parents have been completely demoralized. And their parents were already partially demoralized. So it goes little step by step, incrementally. And Monika’s videos, “<em>Sorry Mom I was wrong about the Holocaust</em>” basically reverse engineers this<span style="color:#008000;"> <strong>[36:01]</strong> </span>psychological warfare. Because she confesses that she actually reproached our mother for not doing something against those “<em>evil Nazis</em>”! And my mom says:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, we couldn’t! We never heard anything about that! We just didn’t know. We never saw that.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So here we have, our mom was honest, Monika was honest, and this was the heartfelt apology to her spirit, since she was already deceased. Our mother was deceased. Now the jews have gotten a little bit too greedy. If they would have done this all over a longer period of time, maybe they would have gotten away with it., but they just got too greedy! And that’s what the jews always do.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like now, I mean, look at what they’re doing now. They’re going crazy with the censorship! , but every time I see censorship happen, it always seems to come back, those indestructible weeds of historical truth come up stronger and more robust than ever before! And that’s what I say is going to happen now. YouTube wants to go into censorship? Well YouTube’s assigning it’s own death warrant! YouTube is just gonna go out of <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[37:00]</strong> </span>business. Who’ll go to YouTube, who’ll go to Facebook if they’re gonna start playing nonsense like that?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">We’re not stupid! Don’t take us for fools! The “<em>Holocaust</em>” is over! If I was a jew, I’d be coming out with a White flag, right today. I wouldn’t waste another day. And if I was a jew, I’d help to get Monika out of prison., because if you jews are going to stonewall and pretend you don’t know, or, you know, a “<em>Holocaust</em>” denier is evil, you guys are signing your very own death warrant! The noose is around your neck. And every every day of resistance, going forwards the noose tightening around your neck! So just get over it. Come out with your White flag.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Now, I think you told us earlier that you were the one who was talking with Monika, showing her a different side of the story, and kind of awakening her to, you know, to some of the stuff that she talked about. Have you, and it’s more of a personal question, but do you regret doing that, considering the situation she’s in?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Oh no! No!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> And I don’t mean that in a bad way. I’m just saying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Yeah, I understand completely. I’ll tell you, when people, at the beginning, they would say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Monika! How could you let these bad people influence you like that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Monika would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No, no! Nobody ‘influenced’ me.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I was waking up, and it started about 10 years after <strong>9/11</strong>, I started waking up to what actually happened on 9/11. And I sent these this information to all my family members. And Monika was the only one who always came up with the right question. She’ll say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! Where did you get that? How do you know? Prove it! Like how do you know? Where’d you get that?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the other ones would kind of like, do like most zombies do, they kind of click it away. They just delete it, or something. They don’t want to look there. I mean, you know, when people delete that and put it away, it reminds me of a small child that covers it’s eyes and says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Now you can’t see me!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">They’re fooling themselves! We are all, we all have to confront the reality and truth! And Monika always came with the <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[39:00]</strong> </span>right question. She was basically getting up to speed parallel with me, and she’s helped me with stuff, I’ve helped her with stuff. I might have, you know, kick-started her with the 9/11 stuff at the beginning, but she did not resist and she came right up to speed. And we’ve been a team, we’ve been partners in this struggle ever since.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Hmm. Yeah, that’s good. And, of course, as one of the other articles, I think was from “<em>Vice</em>”, of course, they detailed that she was a former Green Party member. She had, I guess she had a lot of people on the Left. And she might have even come from a leftist perspective herself. In the beginning, kind of initially. So I can imagine how difficult it must have been for her when it started, when she started losing her classes <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[violin]</strong> </span>and things like that in the school in Jasper, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all the people, did they come after her, or did they just kind of drop her as a hot potato? How were her relationships at that point when it started coming out?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay. You started saying about she was a <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong> </span>leftist. You know, I, we were all leftists! I was a leftist. Most people were leftist. We were basically indoctrinated that way, and that’s perfectly natural. There’s nothing wrong with that., but it’s just now when we see the reality that we understand, you know, that this leftist stuff is bad news for us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And Monika’s ritual defamation which she had to endure in Jasper was, it was vile! I mean, she used to play music once a week, or something like that in the Jasper Legion, it’s called. And there was a guy there <strong>Ken Kominski</strong> is his name, but he’s all over the internet now, in a very bad way. He just did everything to get her thrown out of there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But you see, Monika had been a <strong>Green Party</strong> member. She and run for the Green Party in Canada, but had quit that party already a year before making that video, because it was her disgust at the fact that the Party would not deal with the issue of 9/11, and a few other things. So she <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[41:01]</strong> </span>was disillusioned by the hypocrisy of that Party. And, of course, now in hindsight we can see that Green Party, that’s one of the very worst. Here in Germany the Greens are the absolute worst!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I used to vote for those people. And that’s how blindsided I was! How hoodwinked I was! These are the very worst of the worst., but people in Jasper, they liked the way she dealt with their ritual defamation, since she wasn’t allowed to busk officially and in the streets. Which is, you know, putting your hat down there and playing music and so forth. She just went out with her fiddle and played, just for free, kind of thing. And people loved it! So she had a lot of people who were very happy with what she was doing. And even people that didn’t understand the six million lie, and were believers of that sick religion., but even they would still come to her and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I might not agree with you what you’re saying, but I don’t think what they’re doing to you is right!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">So they see the injustice of what’s <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[42:01] </strong></span>actually happening to her. And I’ve always told Monika that each and every one of those people that are now making your life difficult, are in the future, at some point in time, when you go down the street they will run and hide, or they will come and ask you for forgiveness, for their despicable, disgraceful behavior!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">And that’s something that we all have to understand. That us being attacked, I would much rather go to prison, Same with Monika. I mean, that’s why I’m not worried about her. She’s a very strong person and she’ll she knows the role she’s playing. And myself too. If I go to prison, so what? I’ll go to jail! And is going so fast now, that I won’t be in jail for very long before the mob will get me out of jail, or they’ll kill me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this lie is over! It truly is! No self-respecting European person can crawl on his knees with this utter nonsense of 6 million dead jews, shrunken heads, soap and lampshades! It is so bizarre!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m looking into in turn to how <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[43:02]</strong> </span>they play this game, you know, depending how much time we have., because with the fall of the Iron Curtain, like Auschwitz, we are always told Auschwitz, Auschwitz! The people living in Auschwitz had never heard of anything about a “<em>Holocaust</em>” until after the Iron Curtain came down and then they had a problem!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Let’s get into that in the second segment, Alfred.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Sure.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> We’re going to take a little break in a little bit, so I think this is a good time should promote the website before we’re going to that. I want to hear more about that., but obviously one of the ones that were set up was “<em>wir sind Monika</em>” <strong>[wir-sind-monika.com]</strong> “<em>We are Monika</em>”. Tell us about that site and is there any way people can support her now? What can people do that are concerned with this and her future?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I recommend everybody become familiar with the site “<strong><em>wir sind Monika</em></strong>”, or “<span style="color:#008000;"><em>We are Monika</em></span>”. That should get you there also. And this is sort of a go — to place to see what’s happening with Monika. All the latest updates. Plus we have a lot of links to other websites that have a massive amount of good information about the true history of what we call World War One, and World War Two.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s all in there. That’s the go — to place to find out what’s happening with Monika. And that is actually what had got them so upset, and that is the reason why they sent a team of ten heavily armed thugs into my home to steal everything they could find just yesterday morning.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> What happened with that? Tell us more about that. I mean, they just, what, did they just the break open the door? Did you open it? What happened?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> No this is interesting, because it’s always the same sort of woman with her team of thugs there. She comes from <strong>Fürstenfeldbruck</strong>, which isn’t that far. And this time in the summer, last summer of 2017, they came and they basically stormed in here at 6:00 in the morning like, you know, just about broke down the doorbell! And then they stormed in.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this time they rang at seven o’clock and were very polite. The whole team of them. They surrounded the house first and then they came in. The whole house was full of these people, like ten of them at least, I couldn’t even count them all. And they didn’t take as long as the last time. It only took about, just over an hour. And they stole everything they could find, but I was <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span> preemptively cautious. That’s why I’m talking to you now, I’ve still got my equipment.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I told them the whole time saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You need to understand, lists are being compiled of all those people who are now being helpers of the system. And you will all find yourself having to explain your behavior when this lie goes over. And it’s just coming down now. It’s in free fall, and this is theft. And this is treason, what you are doing!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>And what do you do when you go home at night? What do you tell your kids what you did? You chased a “</em><em>Holocaust</em>”<em> denier and stole all his equipment? I mean, that’s gonna be an embarrassing thing to explain, because your children are all going to know that this was all a lie. And nobody’s going to admit that they ever believed that stuff!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">But that’s another thing. They don’t even talk about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” in these charges anymore. They actually charge us now, that we are “<em>undermining the trust that people have in our legal system</em>”! Now try to digest that one.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Is that what they told you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">That’s what’s written on the papers. That’s what’s written on the justifications for stealing all of our equipment, is that we are “<em>undermining that people’s trust in the legal system</em>”! Now if that isn’t an inversion of reality, I don’t know what is! And that’s what they do with everything. The “<em>Holocaust</em>”, and everything else that they’re feeding us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">You have to understand this process of “<em>inverting and projecting</em>”. They invert their own behavior, put it on the victim and they project that out there. And they just propagandize that message into our brains. And if we’re dumb enough to believe it, you know, we deserve to get exterminated! , but we are waking up, because we are not really that dumb!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Alright. Let’s take a little break here then., but yeah, I want to send pple over to “<em>wir sind Monika</em>”. We’ll have a link down the description for that. There is, of course, tell us about your personal sites, as well Alfred.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[46:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color:#0000ff;"> I don’t have any personal sites. I have my videos. I made them all, I basically finished my video career. Now I’m doing a lot of writing and doing talk shows like this one right now., because that is right now, the most effective way that we could the message out there. If I had invested in new equipment after they stole all of my equipment, my cameras, everything! They took everything you could find! Thousands of euros worth! If I had reinvested, it would all be gone now again. That’s why I don’t bother.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">I just have learned to operate mobile. I can work here, I can work there. All that I need is a little laptop with an internet connection. That’s all I need now, and that’s all I’m going to be working with in the future.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Okay. Yeah, you have the YouTube channel. We will link to that, of course. People can check out your older videos. A lot of good videos there, a lot of material on, you know, bigger picture, like 9/11, and how the entrainment, how the mind control process works. And stuff like that. Very interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you, just the last point before we take a break here. Would you want to, if you could, leave Germany and go back to Canada? Are you happy where you are, at the moment?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[48:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I couldn’t go to Canada! Canada! They are such zombies these people! There are more indoctrinated to be zombies than in Germany. I mean, Germany is pretty bad, but Canada’s even worse! I mean, they are completely brain-dead there! I hate to say it, but I would cry if I have to look at that every single day.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now there’s good people, don’t get me wrong, but the general population is completely and totally, they’ve had their brains rotted out! And that’s a very alarming condition to be in, because they will not survive the coming reality. That is what I’m most concerned about, what used to be my home country. No. I want to stay in Germany right here, even if I go to jail, I’ll still stay here.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik: </strong> Yep, I understand that. Alright folks let’s just take a short break here. We’ll be back more with Alfred Schaefer. All the links down below. Stay tuned everyone, we’ll be right back.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[49:00]</strong><br />
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<p>Thank you for watching, or listing guys. We’re doing a second part with Alfred Schaefer at Red Ice members dot com, right now. Yes really! A second members exclusive hour. It’s been a long time since we did that last. This is kind of the reboot, the reboot premiere of the members hour for our interview shows. This is, of course, something that we’ve started up now again. Since the “<em>hack</em>” we’ve not done a second hour. So this is great getting back into this doing these once more.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[50:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Now the second segment is also where we speak about some of the things that we sometimes consciously, at this point, pulled off from speaking about, you know, in the first segment, because of the situation with YouTube censorship and, you know, our podcast goes up on other platforms, too. So I explain a bit more about this in the beginning of <strong>Part II</strong>, for members.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[51:00]</strong><br />
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<p>And what’s more troubling and difficult is that despite the fact that we do not condone, you know, the promotion of violence, and such things. We, you know, these deluded people who want to silence people with different views are claiming that when we speak about our views, about how we see the world, then that is violence and hate! , but it’s not! This is lies! They can’t handle that we are a growing channel, a growing community. People are tuning in, people are liking our content, that’s the problem, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[52:01]</strong><br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[53:00]</strong><br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Jan 27 is a day for honoring Revisionists who have sacrificed so much for exposing the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; to the world. The website &#8220;jan27.org&#8221; celebrates its 5th annual commemoration honoring Revisionists who have brought sanity &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/01/27/jan-27-2018-international-day-in-honor-of-holocaust-revisionists/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Jan 27 is a day for honoring Revisionists who have sacrificed so much for exposing the diabolical lie known as the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; to the world. The website &#8220;<strong><a style="color:#008000;" href="http://jan27.org/">jan27.org</a></strong>&#8221; celebrates its 5th annual commemoration honoring Revisionists who have brought sanity to a central aspect of the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;, namely the <strong>Auschwitz</strong> “<em>death camp</em>” narrative. The theme of its new articles (see links below) this year is “<em><strong>Exposing the Allies</strong>&#8216; hate, murder and revenge against Germans</em>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">The &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is a diabolical lie that has been used to  justify the creation of a criminal bolt-hole in the Middle East known as Israel, for the international criminal cabal known as &#8220;<em>organized jewry</em>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Even far worse, this demonstrable hoax, the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, is also used as a psychological weapon to bludgeon Whites throughout the West to give up on defending their own countries from the jewish engineered takeover by non-Whites.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">The West is targeted for slow-motion racial and cultural destruction by organized jewry in order for it to achieve its messianic goal of a Jew World Order tyranny. And its foremost &#8220;<em>shield and sword</em>&#8221; is its historically false &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; narrative, particularly focused on <strong>Auschwitz</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">The &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; consists of three core jewish lies:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>BIG LIE 1:</strong> The Germans had a plan to kill all jews.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>BIG LIE 2:</strong> They used gas chambers to kill many of them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>BIG LIE 3:</strong> They killed 6,000,000 jews.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">So please use this day and more, to look into what the Revisionists have to say.</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Your future and your children&#8217;s future depend on you doing something to expose this hoax of centuries — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[Image] <strong>&#8220;REVISIONISTS&#8217; WORK MAKES [YOU] FREE&#8221;</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">Distinguished &#8220;<em>dogs</em>&#8221; of revisionism, from left to right: Robert Faurrison, Fred Leuchter, Fredrick Toben, Arthur Butz, Germar Rudolf, David Cole.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Help us celebrate our <a href="http://jan27.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fifth Annual Commemoration</a> honoring the Revisionists who introduced sanity to the Auschwitz “<em>death camp</em>” narrative.</strong></p>
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<p>January 27 is the day the world is told to bow down to remember the Auschwitz gas chamber myth and lie. We chose this day to tell a different story … our story of sanity, science and honest research.</p>
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<p>We are the Jan27.org committee. So please … help us fight the old war propaganda! Stand up to the false narratives. Spread the word!</p>
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<p>Spread our website <strong>Jan27.org</strong> and our new, special articles for 2018 to your friends and acquaintances. Our theme this year is “<em><strong>Exposing the Allies</strong>&#8216; hate, murder and revenge against Germans</em>”.</p>
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<p>We have two book reviews for the important new book by our great revisionist Carlo Mattogno &#8211; <i><strong>Commandant of Auschwitz: Rudolf Höss, His Torture and His Forced Confessions</strong>. </i>What Höss was put through by the British who captured him defies description, and Mattogno covers every inch of it meticulously in his book.</p>
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<p>We have a new article by <strong>Carolyn Yeager</strong> about how the U.S. Army allowed a diagnosed psychopath to carry out the hangings of the 10 “<em>major war criminals</em>” found guilty in the first military tribunal at Nuremberg, and of many other German victims of Allied (in)justice.</p>
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<p>We have another new article by <strong>Hadding Scott</strong>, which should prove to be just as popular as his two previous articles written especially for our past commemorations, which we had to copyright because so many people were taking it entire for their sites as soon as it appeared. This one is based on Edwin Black&#8217;s book <strong><em>IBM and the Holocaust. </em></strong></p>
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<p>Then we are featuring <strong>Germar Rudolf&#8217;s</strong> video about the legal system in the “<em>Democratic</em>” Federal Republic of Germnay, which discriminates against the rights of the German people and gives all power to the anti-German state. Germar describes in detail how it does that.<br />
We also have an article about Amazon&#8217;s “<em>year of the revisionist book banning</em>” and who is responsible, which also ultimately discriminates against the German people and the truth of their history.</p>
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<p>We have published <strong>Mary W. Maxwell&#8217;s</strong> interesting “<strong><em>Thirteen Reasons</em></strong>” she&#8217;s a holocaust revisionist, and an article about how the World Jewish Congress under <strong>Ronald Lauder</strong> is promoting <i>their</i> Jan. 27<sup>th</sup> commemoration at Auschwitz-Birkenau.<br />
So do visit <a href="http://jan27.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>Jan27 </b></a></p>
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<p><strong>International Day of Commemoration in Honor of the Revisionists Who Introduced Sanity to the Auschwitz “Death Camp” Narrative</strong> and invite and introduce as many others as you can to our message. As we say on our front page, it is a message of life, hope and good news.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Exposing the Allies’ hate, murder and revenge</span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;">against Germans during our</span></h3>
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<h1 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><a href="http://jan27.org/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">FIFTH ANNUAL COMMEMORATION</span></a></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#ff0000;">January 27, 2018</span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/two-reviews-of-one-new-book/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Two Reviews for <em><strong>Commandant of Auschwitz</strong></em></a></span></h3>
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<p align="CENTER"><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/jan-27-day-in-honor-of-holocaust-revisionists-4770-book-commandant-of-auschwitz.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-17010" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/jan-27-day-in-honor-of-holocaust-revisionists-4770-book-commandant-of-auschwitz.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="354" height="455" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><em><strong>Rudolf Höss, His Torture and His Forced Confessions</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">“<b>How the Standard Holocaust Narrative Got off the Ground</b>”</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Ezra McVie</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">“<b>Telling Stories to Stay Alive: Rudolf Höss vs. Scheherazade</b>”</p>
<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Jett Rucker</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><a href="http://jan27.org/rg-hangman-a-navy-diagnosed-psychopath-who-strangled-top-nazis/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b><span style="color:#0000ff;">Nuremberg hangman was a </span></b></a></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><a href="http://jan27.org/rg-hangman-a-navy-diagnosed-psychopath-who-strangled-top-nazis/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b><span style="color:#0000ff;">U.S. Navy-diagnosed psychopath</span> </b></a></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Carolyn Yeager</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/edwin-black-is-a-buffoon/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>Edwin Black is a Buffoon:</b></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Hadding Scott</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/germany-country-under-rule-of-law/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>Video: Germany. Country under Rule of Law</b><b>?</b></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">Germar Rudolf critically inspects the criminal code in the Federal Republic of Germany</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/why-the-german-constitutions-article-5-is-not-valid/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Video: Why the German Constitution’s </strong></a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/why-the-german-constitutions-article-5-is-not-valid/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Article 5 is Not Valid</strong></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Ursula Haverbeck describes what most Germans don’t know about their Constitution</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/2017-was-the-year-amazon-dropped-all-holocaust-revisionist-books/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>2017 was the year Amazon dropped </b></a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/2017-was-the-year-amazon-dropped-all-holocaust-revisionist-books/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>all </b><b>Holocaust Revisionist books</b></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Jan27 Committee</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/thirteen-reasons-why-i-am-a-holocaust-revisionist/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>Thirteen Reasons Why I Am a </b></a></span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/thirteen-reasons-why-i-am-a-holocaust-revisionist/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><b>Holocaust Revisionist</b></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER">by Mary W. Maxwell</p>
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<h3 style="text-align:center;" align="CENTER"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="http://jan27.org/wjc-president-ronald-lauder-says-never-again-seems-to-happen-again-and-again/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">“<b>Never again” seems to happen again and again”</b></a></span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this interview <strong>Andrew Hitchcock</strong> talks with Canadian-German <strong>Alfred</strong> <strong>Schaefer</strong> again, covering a multitude of &#8220;truther&#8221; topics, including how he first got involved with 9/11 issues, realizing the fraudulent nature of  &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;, and all the many other acts of systemic aggression that organized jewry has  unleashed in its undeclared war on White people. He describes how he came to despise Noam Chomsky — someone who he once admired — as he discovered through correspondence with him that Chomsky is just another jewish shill trying to distract people away from 9/11 and it being a jewish false flag event. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">In today’s show originally broadcast on November 21<strong>,</strong> 2017, EuroFolkRadio’s Andrew Carrington Hitchcock interviews Alfred Schaefer for a show entitled, “<strong><em>This is Not A Game!</em></strong>”</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>We discussed:</strong> Alfred’s dialogue with Noam Chomsky; Alfred’s videos; the police raids on Alfred’s home; the persecution of Ursula Haverbeck; how the authorities in Germany fear taking people to trial; how there is a media blackout on free speech trials, so the general public don’t realize their rights of free speech are being taken away; how Germany has changed dramatically due to mass immigration from the Third World; how Ethnic-Europeans have excelled historically when we are under pressure; how the fiat money system will soon collapse; how Angela Merkel got back into power; and many other topics.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">Now the Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show with your host, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Hello everybody. I’m very pleased today to have a guest back on who I wanted to have on for a while, and he’s very graciously, I’ve only phoned him up about fifteen minutes ago, because I had a guest I was going to call who is sadly unwell at the moment. So I thought, well now that I’m doing seven shows a week and I have to record them in five days, it’s important that I get people where I can. And this gentleman has kindly agreed to come on a short notice. And we’re going to talk about a variet of issues. I’m going to bring him up right now. He is Alfred Schaefer in Germany. Alfred are you with me?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! Here I am Andy. And thanks for calling me up. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> well thank you so much for agreeing to do this Alfred. It’s a real great help to me. And this is by no means that you were sort of in reserve, it was just a case of I wanted to have you back on and we had the opportunity. And this is something I think is going to happen at points now in the future, because where I was in the past, I was recording five shows a week, you know, if I miss a day could always maybe get a couple on another day. Now I’m a lot more limited on time. So thank you as I say for stepping in. And if you could start off with any websites that you have for the listeners.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, I don’t have any of my own websites. What my activity has been in the past was making videos, which came about after, &#8230; Well my first video was the “<em>9/11 Gate Keepers and the Controlled Opposition</em>”, which resulted after I had an e-mail dialogue with Professor Noam Chomsky. And after, I was absolutely appalled at his behavior, watching him deflect away and not answer the questions about WTC 7 — that’s pertaining to 9/11. And that was in, I think, 2013. And this dialogue was just after I had met Christopher Bollyn. And he’s the top investigative journalist for 9/11. And he helped me with this dialogue, because this went back and forth a few times. And the answers that this professor Noam Chomsky gave me proved to me beyond any doubt, that he is deliberately deceiving and keeping us, and leading us, basically down the garden path, away from the facts, away from the logical conclusions that one comes to when one sees the evidence.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then I had this dialogue on my desk and says, well that we can’t just let it, you know, drift away and down the memory hole, we have to do something with it. And after some time I realized I’ve got to make a video out of this. And that was basically how my own video career started.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then after making that video then I thought, “<em>Oh boy! Now they are going to come and get me for sure</em>”, but nothing happened! They didn’t ever come and get me! And then material started piling up again, and again, and then I thought I’ve got so much stuff here I’ve got to make another video! And then I made my “<em>Brainwashing Number One</em>”. I was going to make a series out of it, of this, and I called it. “<em>9/11 Brainwashing</em>”. And that’s how just one video, you know, a had to make one video, after the other, as the material piled up.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And at the point we are now, is they have raided me twice now. The last time — I’m living here in Germany — the last time they raided me with a troop of well armed thugs, I call them. And they stormed in here at six o’clock in the morning and they stole everything they could find that was either, computing equipment, storage devices, and all of my studio equipment, and the microphones, everything! They just cleaned me right out completely!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And while they were doing that, I gave them a two hour lecture, because it took they were here for about two and a half hours cleaning everything out. And I told them — I took two hours — I told them what treason is! I told them what theft is! And I asked them how they explain their act, their job, what they’re doing, to their children? I asked them, you know, I told them why didn’t you learn something decent? Like learned, you know, be a baker, be a mechanic, or something, but you chase “<em>Holocaust</em>” deniers and steal their equipment? I mean, how do you tell your kids about that?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you know, you have to look at these attacks on us as opportunities to educate the attackers, so they will start to, &#8230; Basically we have to subvert them with the truth and shame them so they don’t never do that again! I don’t know if I’ve been successful with these guys, but I do know, that throughout all of our security apparatuses, they are extremely demoralized. And people are, they can’t take it anymore. They know that they’re being treasonous. And that shows that we’re being successful, and these things are accelerating now. So your call right now, is actually very timely.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Excellent! Well thank you for running through all that Alfred. Firstly do have, you talk about the videos, do you have a particular YouTube channel?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, my channel, it’s been censored in the European countries, anyway. It’s Alfred S<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[YouTube channel name]</strong></span>, actually, you know, just the name that I just had.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But my videos, they’ve been reloaded on other channels and now we are making DVD’s that I’m, you know, sending out, and people are making copies and stuff like that. And a lot of the work now is actually just connecting the dots, by writing things, like emails, you know, putting the pieces together with large distribution lists, and stuff like that. So the thing is if we have a YouTube channel and they censor it, then, of course, we’re using the jewish infrastructure and then they can just shut it down. So we have to bypass these channels. And so my channel, most people will not be able to find it here in Europe, unless they bypass the censorship somehow. Which you can do it but, you know, I can’t go into all the tricks on how to do that right now.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But you could find my<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[videos]</strong> </span>just by keying in my name “<em>Alfred Schaefer</em>”. And then something like “<em>Holocaust</em>”, “<em>Alfred Schaefer Holocaust</em>” or “<em>Alfred Schaefer 9/11</em>”and you’ll probably find<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[me]</strong></span>. Once you find one you can find the rest as well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew: </strong> Well, funnily enough, I just typed in “<em>Alfred S YouTube</em>” into Google and it comes up right at the top at the moment. So I will certainly put a link to, as well into the post for this show. Now you mentioned about, you know, these authorities, and you basically said:</p>
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<p>I mean, if we look at the case of Ursula Haverbeck, and it just goes to show how utterly sick these people are! You know, if Ursula Haverbeck said that the moon was made of green cheese, people would have absolutely no problem with her opinion. But the only opinion that can be criminalized at the moment, of course, this is at the moment, on an alleged historical event, is anything relating to this alleged “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And we’re talking about an eighty eight year old woman that they keep rolling out in front of the courts, to put her in jail! I mean, how can an eighty eight year old woman giving views on history, be worthy of sending her to jail, for what could be a life sentence?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22159" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="670" height="1062" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER.jpg 670w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER-600x951.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Ursula-Haverbeck-The-Greatest-Problem-COVER-646x1024.jpg 646w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px" /></a><span style="color: #008000;">See post: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/30/ursula-haverbeck-the-greatest-problem-of-our-time-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Ursula Haverbeck “The Greatest Problem of Our Time” — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p>It can only be explained that these people are truly evil! They have absolutely no compassion for the elderly, and they have absolutely no willingness to let people have free speech! If their story of this alleged event is so true, then they wouldn’t be running around trying to goal people who express any different view on the event! What are your thoughts on that Alfred?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I’m glad you brought that up. You know, I met those Ursula Haverbeck, about, I guess it must have been about a month ago, or so. And I was at a place and I made my presentation there, about psychological warfare, and she was also there. And when we parted ways I told her, I said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And she grinned from ear to ear and said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And just laughed like a little schoolgirl! I mean, she is so full of energy, you know. I think everybody would like to have a grandmother like that!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that’s the case, you see. They like to scream, they used to always scream out every couple months so, you know:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">She never went to goal! She has not spent a single day in prison! And in fact the last court appearance, just to show you where we are with our waking up of people and how the people involved in this treason, where they are on this, the judge passed a sentence saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I’m going to give you six months, in prison, but this is a meaningless sentence, because you will appeal it anyway. And, by the way, I have read the book from Gerard Menuhin, ‘<strong>Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil</strong>’</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so they have to obey the law, because that’s their job, but they are admitting right there and then, that they are doing something extremely evil, and they don’t want to be involved in it. So what they’re saying:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they’re basically conceding defeat! And this is the message we have to get out there, is that the people who are in the judiciary are conceding defeat! And what happens then, is that the perpetrators, the jews, the talmudic jews, they don’t have anybody doing the dirty work for them anymore and have to come out themselves!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ll give you an example. Just after they raided me and stole all of my equipment, I got a “<em>Strafe Rechtsordnung</em>”<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[sp]</strong> </span>which means an order for punishment from a, I call it a transvestite, I call it a “<em>kike dyke</em>”, a transvestite, or a lesbian in Dresden, who calls herself the state prosecutor. And they wanted five thousand euros from me, for so having said something I never even said. And this was also a case that’s very interesting to me.&lt;/span</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See post: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/02/21/dresden-grussworte-greetings-from-dresden-feb-2017/">Greetings from Dresden</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now Dresden, I was there last year, or less than a year ago, and I gave a speech in commemoration of the bombing in Dresden, the fire bombing which was a real “<em>Holocaust</em>”. And I had told them that they had replaced the original memory of what actually happened there. And as I was growing up in Canada and they had replaced that with these pathetic silly stories about the Germans having made shrunken heads, soap and lampshades, out of the jews. And the thing is they could tell us these obscene ridiculous stories in the West, because we believed everything that we were told. But, in the east behind the Iron Curtain, which was communist, which was a jewish construct, communism, they were skeptical, because they knew they were being lied to. And they would never have been able to tell them those stories, because they would never believe such nonsense! And this judge, or state prosecutor <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[in Dresden]</strong>,</span> that was behind the Iron Curtain, so they never heard these stories about the soap, and lampshades, and shrunken heads. And in German if I say I said “<em>Seife</em>” which is soap and “<em>Seide</em>” which sounds very similar, is silk.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So she listened to the police recording of my speech there, and then she tried to quote me and said that I claimed that we were taught that they made “<em>lampshades, shrunken heads, and silk out of jews</em>”! Now how can you make “<em>silk</em>” out of jews? You can’t even make soap out of jews, so how do you make silk out of jews? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Andrew chuckles]</strong></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, when I got that “<em>Strafe Rechtsordnung</em>”<span style="color: #008000;"> <strong>[sp]</strong></span>, I just sent it back and said I appeal that — I have to do that very quickly, because if I don’t do it really fast, the automatic process kicks in and then they will come in to steal my money. So I sent it back. Now I have to have a real trial, but and I have put this publicly out, in e-mail, all over the place. And I got a number of offerings from lawyers, they said, we’ll represent you, you know. But there’s not going to be a trial, because they know, they fear a trial the way that the devil fears, you know, or the way a vampire fears the sunlight! They don’t want trials!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See post: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/04/20/horst-mahler-speech-before-returning-to-prison-transcript/">Horst Mahler — Speech Before Returning to Prison — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And like, when they threw <strong>Horst Mahler</strong> in prison, they got him on an existing order for imprisonment. But they really don’t want any new trials, because every trial now exposes their obscene, pathetic, lies more and more. And I, for one, I’m not holding my mouth on this, and I speak openly about this, and I use the proper language and the proper words. I call them “<em>thought police</em>”, I call it “<em>Inquisition</em>”, and I never, &#8230; As soon as any of these control words come at me, like they say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>You’re a “Holocaust” denier!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then I say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Well geez, I ever glad you don’t confuse me for someone, weak, so weak in their brain that they would still believe that nonsense! </em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then I say:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>The whole world is waking up and laughing about the fact that there might still be a few Germans that believe that, but please don’t ever confuse me for one of those!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> I agree. I mean, the only concern I have with what you say is the case of Jez Turner in the UK. I don’t know if you’re familiar with that. But what they been doing here, &#8230; He’s been accused of saying that the jews have been controlling the UK for over one hundred years, etc., But what they do, is they don’t report in any of the mainstream media, so if they do end up giving him a goal sentence — I mean, there was another guy called Lawrence Burns that they did this too. And the only place you could read his story, about the trial, and the fact he been sent to prison for three years, was in the <strong><em>Cambridge Evening Post</em></strong>. Which I’ve never even heard about. It’s a local newspaper, you know, just for people living in Cambridge. And so, this is a way these jews control things.</p>
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<p>If they were actually publishing stories of how they’re locking people up in the UK, left, right, and center, because they said something that they don’t like, then the general public would probably start to say:</p>
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<blockquote><p>“<em>Well, hang on, I thought that we had our democratic right to free speech.</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>That they are always saying. And quite honestly, if this guy said something and, you know, I’m a liberal and I don’t agree with that, I still don’t think that someone should go to jail at all, for saying something. Because I know that he’s wrong, you know, and that would be their belief system. You see what I mean? But they are now actually starting to jail people for their belief system!</p>
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<p>I think a lot of people who are on the left would actually stand up for these people and that’s why they don’t report it in their media. Do you have a similar situation in Germany? I mean, they keep rolling out the <strong>Ursula Haverbeck</strong> story in the UK. And things like the <strong><em>Daily Mail</em></strong>. So they tackle that, but how often do they I publish these stories in Germany, or is there a media blackout, like there is in the case of <strong>Jez Turner</strong> in the UK?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a media blackout. They only report that which reinforces their own, you know, instilling fear into the people, and so forth. There’s not a word of the police raid against me, or anything. They’ll never report on that! No, because they couldn’t report that without people saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>What’s going on?</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re trying to basically hide, genocide us, or prepare us for our own genocide, in quiet. No one is supposed to know about it. This is how the jews do it. I mean, if you look in their Talmud and their own Protocols, they even say that. The people will be delivered to you for slaughter and then there will be rivers of blood! Well, that’s how they do it. They do this without us knowing what’s happening. And then, until there’s really real massacres and bloodshed — and that’s what they’re setting us up for.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, at the same time that they don’t let us say anything anymore, they are sending out videos in Arabic, throughout the Arab world, instructing them exactly how they can circumvent any kind of problems in Europe. And that if they’re here for six months and they’re guaranteed to be able to stay here. And they’re really trying to, through propaganda, through advertising, to get as many people from the Arab world and even Africa, they’ve done the same. Get all these people coming up here, because they’re being promised all kinds of nice things. At the same time that they are becoming hysterical if anybody here so much as breathed a word of dissatisfaction, or discontent about what’s happening.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s how the jews do it. But at the same time people are dropping away from the jewish media by, it’s an exponential thing. I mean, here I hear the comments all the time. People are saying:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>I can’t watch TV anymore!</em>” or “<em>You can’t read that anymore! You can’t buy that!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ll give me an example. My wife, until recently, worked in a library. She just retired now, but she said even a year ago she noticed that magazines, like news magazines, that used to be special, or reserved for people that want to read it, people coming into the library would not touch them anymore! And she was always observing comments like:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh! Who can read that? &#8230; I can’t read that anymore! </em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So once people have unplugged themselves from the matrix by not being plugged into it anymore, they sort of drift along with the installed programs in their brain and start to try to look for information elsewhere. So that’s the situation we have right now. And that’s why they’re censoring like crazy here now! Like I mean, Youtube is, all these jewish outfits are just censoring like crazy. But I always say, if you have a little child at home and you tell them not to look in this particular drawer, well the first place the child, if he’s curious at all, is going to look when you go out of the house is in the drawer that he’s not supposed to!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s what they’re trying to do to us now. And that’s we, the White European peoples, have always been the biggest headache for these jews. And that’s why they want to breed us down with this massive influx of Africans and whatnot, because they figure that if they can’t really beat us, but if they can breed us down, then they can [will]. But we’re waking up now faster than they can breed us down, and they’re not going to get this under their control. So, we’re living in an exciting times and this is the reality that we all have to face and deal with.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes. And I’m really appreciate your optimism Alfred, because I tend to be a lot more, I get depressed about this sort of stuff. Because, of course, they keep bringing more and more people in. I think some 675,000 immigrants into the UK last year, and then keep telling us that:</p>
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<p>“<em>Oh well, National Health Service can’t cope and this can’t cope, &#8230;</em>”</p></blockquote>
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<p>And then we find out that most of these people are going on to benefits. And it’s like these people aren’t coming here to pay our pensions of the elderly, that they try and claim, because they’re being given all these benefits! What’s the situation in Germany with these migrants? I’ve heard so many horror stories about these rapes and, you know, people like Dr Lenoard Caldwell, I’ve heard, and he talks about how people won’t go out at night anymore.</p>
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<p>Is this scare-mongering? How much of a threat has it been in your regular day to day life in Germany, with the arrival of all these immigrants?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">The change is dramatic! I tell you, when you go to any of the cities now, in the train stations, that’s where you see it the most. You will see almost like a majority of these, just invaders I call them. They’re just invaders! And it’s very disconcerting. And the thing is the jews like to they use whatever excuse that needs to be used in the respective European countries. A country like Sweden, for example, they couldn’t hound them with “<em>Holocaust</em>”. No! They told the Swedes all along, just the like in Canada:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Oh, you’re so boring! You need multiculturalism so it gets more exciting!</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, they were right on that one, because now it is more exciting. The women go out and they get raped! That it used to happen.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong>[21:02] IN PROGRESS</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">So. But all these people coming in they are they are basically draining our what we have built up and this is a process that leads to the inevitable explosion and when like some people are pessimistic, but I’ll tell you one thing that could maybe make you more optimistic even though they might be gruesome, but we’re a peons have always excelled when we were under pressure and this is now going to place us under extreme pressure until the zombies they will either get back on their feet and understand that life has a greater purpose than being a zombie, or they will be butchered and slaughtered because.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">It’s the Europeans that built up everything that we have here and not the invaders the invaders are coming into an infrastructure that our ancestors built and we inherited. And we continue to build on that and they come in after everything has been nicely built up with our inventions with our money not a single one of these Africans would be anywhere here were it not for the fact that they were brought here by infrastructure that we provided for them that was stolen from us, or so this is basically the biggest theft and fraud. Perpetrated against us as Europeans and I am convinced that we will come out of it, because I know in European history we’ve had invasions before that we were able to repel and sometimes I think these repulsion of these invasions, you know, whether it was done over a period of hundreds of years so I’m sure that once and at the rate that this awakening is happening now, you know, a lot of people are going to go insane when they realize what the reality is, but it will also give a lot of people new sense of purpose and that alone gives them more power and energy than they ever thought they would have so so I’m optimistic I have no doubt that we’re going to get this sorted out a new mention of the television I mean, like yourself are calm watch the television anymore I mean, need to think most of the country was black, or Indian, or what have you with all the people who put on the television it’s absolute lunacy. But my concern as well ease, of course, rice mixing aspects, because we want to return these people to their countries of origin it’s nothing to do with height to anything not that we didn’t invite these people in the to support them in to destroy the rice and so if they’ve got any problem with anybody it’s the jews that they need to take it up with, because they’re the people that call says the state laws I should be bringing them over from their countries to invite all countries on the Tuesday, because the jews a stay at the death of the want rights, because the want Mycenaean device that kicked them out of countries over one hundred times in the history and so they’ve earmarked for destruction.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong>[24:00] IN PROGRESS</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Question is then. Thought. Where you have White women in the of shacked up with black men, or what have you and the having children with them, this is where it’s going to difficult, because you know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">We went through a tunnel country through it’s historical racial demographic So what happens with these people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Well, you know, when this has the zeitgeist that we are where we are right now going through an explosive change in the zeitgeist and these people depending on the India Indian individual circumstances will have considerable explaining to do and will not exactly be on the upper end of esteem and so forth and that’s going to be a big problem for them, but I don’t think we should be concerned about that right now, because any woman who. Stoops to that level.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Well that’s not there’s consequences I mean, there’s decisions in those consequences and I’m not going to go into what the consequences might be, but I just don’t see much of a future for them, because things are going to get very, very tight and, you know, in war time when these things happen feelings don’t really count that much anymore I mean, when Europe was induced into butchering itself in what we call the wars, because the jews had been if you lated certain parts of Europe to attack the heart of Europe which was Germany. Where were the feelings there I mean, you know, there was so much hatred that was directed at Germany and then this hatred was only stepped up afterwards and now expanded to include the entire White race. And now I see like the UK, for example, they were induced to believe that they had been some kind of victors after this civil war which we call the, you know, World War to be that they were victors Well it got to look at the UK now and the UK it’s actually worse than Germany, you know, even the that’s why Germany is now the focus of the inundation, because they want to bring Germany down to the same level basically as the UK and that’s the reality and now I say this way now we Europeans need to understand we are standing with our backs against the wall and we are standing shoulder to shoulder and any animosity that we have amongst ourselves is nothing, but residual poison that the parasite that the jew has it’s residual poison of the jew as brought put into our minds and we need to put that aside and join ranks and deal with this, because our entire financial order is going to come crashing down every single field money system in history always has it’s end of life date and our jew world money world, you know, there’s this whole world financial order will come crashing down.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[27:04] NEEDS PROOFING</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Because you cannot bring in these invaders who are not producing anything, but are consuming things and productive workers who have a brain in their head get thrown in jail just for thinking, you know, and that system like that is eased It’s like a cancer it’s a self in itself up until the pain be reaches a level where the people just revolt and that’s it that’s the big revolt and that’s what we’re going to see in the very, very near future I think this whole thing is going to be playing out. Within one year from now it’s going to be unrecognizable I didn’t even know the awakening now is under recognisable compared to what we had one year ago and this is an act exponential process so I believe we’re going to see a very exciting times in the next six months eight months it’s only going to keep getting more exciting until we get that sorted out yes exactly in Assam not trying to be negative it was just trying to throw different things in on I don’t know what’s going to happen with these sort of people, but as you said, that. Not really our wish you all wish us to write the idea amongst the mainstream of what’s really going on so we can White cop all right she’ll problems insistence and say no we don’t want this and that’s where movies see things change, but then we look at things like.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You know at some point I think the place is just going to have to turn man and say look, you know, we’re police officers we can see all these markets are causing all this trouble so why we got them in our country, but what they do, of course, is I start putting a lot of Norm Watts in the police service down in the UK And so therefore you get a police service wise up, because they’ll say well this is a colleague of mine and he’s black and this is what the cue does they create all these programs like affirmative action, or what have you to hire these minorities into all these government departments.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Literally Mike all recovery more difficult on every level possible so we could almost see a splintering off where some White people within the security services actually do decide to come out and say This is Roland speak out, but again it’s getting that voice and he can’t predict how this a White shooting is going to happen, but we do know that it does happen, because it’s even talked about inscription that it does happen and these White nations are going to be experiences racial flood going into them so agree with you it’s exciting times I would just cite the listeners to just like your time and spread the word about what is going on to people so people wake up and they’re ready and then they’re going to be on the winning side, but certainly what you said about the UK I mean, we don’t have the volume that we’re having in Germany, because we’ve had this immigration. Coming in for a longer period.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[30:00] NEEDS PROOFING</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">It’s been coming in they’ve been adjusting the curriculum in the store. To promote all the still of us to take on how to jump out for it and lost all to working full time in the N that ninety full on the job well I haven’t had to go on if quality a delight to try to hit on a me and it’s in every job, you know, twenty three years.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">In this program in and that’s why they’ve created the rights mixing them all happy, but I think the some point we all to the White top right surely that is when the shoe is going to try. We will see what comes up then what are your thoughts on that okay, I mean, this in May and June this year I was in Canada on a trans-Canada speaking tour, and my subject was a psychological warfare and what I had observed on this tour which took me all the way from Toronto all the way to Victoria like all across the country fourteen talks in eleven different cities and people the things I was hearing were just absolutely shocking, for example, from several of my old friends they would tell me they had, you know, sons that were like twenty five years old kind of thing and looking for work and they were always being told the same thing highly qualified perfect for the job and they would always hear something like oh, you know, you have been privileged for so long now you must understand that we’re going to have to hire one of our visible minorities and you will understand and so there are so shocked by this kind of a response when they’re looking for a job. That they don’t know how to respond to that initially, but this is a this is an engineer and extermination of a syrup in peoples and we that’s what we have to understand I give you another example I was in Toronto and one of the people came he was about thirty years old, or something and he told me, you know, Alford I was just applied and it was an I.B.M., or something — I used to work from there to. And he said I have all the qualifications and then the last question the interviewer asks me something like Can you imagine working with a transvestite and he started laughing, you know, as a snickering is that what kind of a question What is that got to do with his job and then there the interviewer says Oh I see you have an attitude problems no we cannot take you he saw you can see how this subversion is just rot it is absolute destructive no society no society can survive that level of internal rot I mean, that’s like a cancer we have got a real cat and that’s the jew the jew is the subvert and he continues to subvert us until there is resistance and he pushes it and pushes it and pushes it until there is resistance so it’s oh this is a there’s no. There’s no a cheerful solution to this.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[32:57] NEEDS PROOFING</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The solution is going to be like in the United States the that the mean that is making the rounds in the United States is the following once a certain percentage of Americans. Understand only a certain percentage of what the jews have done to us the jews will not live to see the light of day again and why we’re there I’m going to just reach you I.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mean that is really important in this. Right now it’s called Do, or die in the mind of every White American who voted for Donald Trump whether conscious, or unconscious make America great again bent make America White again we are approaching the defining moment of American history it is left to us just us to step up and claim rightful ownership of this nation and to show the people the jews who stole it from us and I will tell you this it can be done once we have the people behind us the war is already. Over at that point we can directly and maybe even peacefully reclaim everything that was taken from us, it’s a big job, but it is what all of this has been leading up to the final showdown us versus them so this is the mindset that is being that they cannot contain the jews cannot contain this anymore and if you just look at take videos, for example, that were done let’s say three, or four, or five years ago and how they were at that King people who were just exposing the truth about 9/11 and you cannot imagine they would be so auditions now anymore now they prefer not to talk about that one at all anymore just like when the thugs that raided my us here installed all my video equipment and everything there was no mention of the holohoax anymore, because they know that lie is through and they say that I am using my video equipment to do to do racial incitement I mean, how pathetic is that they were been inciting against Germans all these years, you know, last eighty years and siding against Germany now they’re inciting against all White people and they are talking about racial incitement I mean, how pathetic is that and I tell you one thing this mean I just read to you and that taken together with what we are observing that should give people a real purpose in life again they wait to fight for our survival and that’s what this is a fight for our survival and I’m convinced Like I said before that we Europeans when we are standing there with our backs against the wall we will be up to it I’m absolutely convinced!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Andrew: </strong> yes and on the subject of means our foot off salted all my Twitter every time something, or use hash tag it’s okay, to be White which is these flaws you probably heard about new and America and it’s such an important thing to do folks month cards to listeners who use Twitter through the same thing.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[36:02] NEEDS PROOFING</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Because it’s going to force these people out into the open an old like to demand defray with Jack that comment it’s okay, to be White then what they’re calling for is your genocide, because the only way out to not be White is if I’m dead, because I can’t change month D.N.I. So anyone who disagrees with that statement wants to kill you on a soon as we get these means out of these hashtags out people not never use the hashtag a lot from Twitter all of it there is use it to. Interesting articles for often that came out I was so impressed with it seeing the reaction from the left which can only be in our favor, or thought that he uses on every post it’s not right surely no one could say that this is a Rice’s comment, because I’m saying it’s okay, to be White if a black person said it was okay, to be black, or that it was okay, to be Muslim they could be treated to any sort of rights hate laws, or not that in a life of saying it’s okay, to be White, because the alternative is you couldn’t be killed, because that’s what they want if they think it’s not okay, to be White, but out for another subject I cannot understand to most people around the world cannot understand only if the election was rigged how on earth did Agricola Markel get back into power in the recent general election in Germany.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You know first of all I wouldn’t I don’t believe the official outcomes anyway and it is only, because of the extreme censorship here in Germany that people are so what those people who still do vote I think I don’t know what like I mean, when I talk to people on the street, for example, not that long ago it was for that election that I was a two I was in a taxi, for example, and I told the guy in the taxi when I see this picture of Merkel I have to really hold back I don’t vomit all over your car story after say that and he says absolutely right on so people everywhere. Are they hate her the hatred against her is phenomenal so you ask me how she won I don’t know I think it’s been.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I can’t answer that I think there’s been a lot of fraud there. And if not then the people who did vote for her still got their crude for a moment they got their head shoved up their asses that’s what the problem is, you know, they’ve sometimes like the questions how how. How wretched does our reality have to be before people begin to understand that how the level of treason that all of our leaders are exercising against us I mean, whether it’s Cameron in the UK, or Merkel here or, you know, I mean, these people are all they’re all jews basically, or completely. Under their control and they have one agenda and that is our extermination in the end and once people understand that it will be as William Pierce said Dr William Pierce he says broom of fire will sweep them out and that’s what it’s going to be it’s going to be ugly, but that’s what it takes, you know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">And then I also say this that when you. Get a flu, you know, you get sick like you’ve got a bad cold coming on sometimes you really feel like you’re going to die everything hurts and you just can’t do anything anymore and then you’re you figure out your White blood cells that sort of figure out what’s going on here they identify the invading bacteria and only then and only after they’ve identified them do they figure out what to do about it and then they kick into gear and that’s when you get a fever and then you convalesce you get better again you recover and afterwards not only are you back to full health, but you have an immunity to this disease and that’s what we’re going to be experiencing we are now coming down with a serious influenza serious colds the entire European nations throughout the world we’re now figuring out what the problem is and we’re going to deal with it and you have to remember that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Until quite recently we our minds were so compartmentalize the that we believed the story about those bad Germans and Hitler was so evil and all of those poor jews I mean, this is just all complete and total utter nonsense that has been hardwired into our brains and only now with the advent of digital technology are we able to actually figure out what the what the reality is and that’s the same as we can observe everywhere in nature if you, for example, you have a monoculture of let’s say you just put corn every field on this planet you’re going to put corn on there well event, you know, and you say all this corn is growing just fine and then something comes along like a fungus, or of something, or an insect and destroys your corn and that’s it then your you go to waste land and we have had the jews have had a total monopoly monoculture, if you will, on. My hands they have had complete control over our minds and they’ve made different populations and different geographies believe different things and then they would incite these people to go at each other’s throats and that’s what they’ve done and that’s their munch all the time is we will have all others gang up on whoever it is who is needs to be ganged up on and that’s what we’re seeing now playing out against all European peoples is there they are putting programs in all these invaders their brains that are designed to exterminate us while weakening us too and we cannot resist I mean, for example, the Africans coming out from Africa they have been programmed to believe that German women any relationship with a German woman begins with sex that’s how they’re told they actually believe these things and they’ve been told while in Africa all they need to up there as engineers and doctors you don’t really have to work everything will be taken care of for you and I actually believe that plus they opened up all the prisons down there and have old people coming up here I mean, this is a very it is such up. Blatantly engineered planned to have us. Breed and bred down, you know.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">When people understand this ugly horribly obscenely ugly reality the response will be in accordance with what they’re observing and when you detect an obscenely ugly plan against us the reaction will also be obscenely ugly, but it will be what we need to do to clean us back up again and that’s what’s going to come that’s coming I mean, I’m sure of that I’m convinced of that yet what you sit there with me if the.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Oh yeah everything is by deception I mean, everything, but they got so sort of drunk on their own power they started making more and more mistakes I mean, the five dancing Israelis I mean, how I mean, no necklace take like that, but that’s only one of millions of mistakes and now they’re done they’re going has terrible and the more heist Eric and the more panicky they get the more mistakes they get while we are recovering control over our own minds again they are going into full high sterile mad madness mode and all the invaders that have come in here, you know, like this can like I just read that mean, you know, do, or die that I just read before this can be done peacefully actually all those invaders will be X. They will have the truth explained to them and they will understand that they are only they were duped into coming here and they have a home that they can return to and they will be returning there unless they can actually have a Unless they have a very good case why they think they can stay here and those, of course, well they could stay here then, you know, might that, but that would that would not be for you, or me to decide that will be for the future.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The powers that be then and put in place to decide and that will be done in accordance to the will of our people the English people the Scottish be. Well the French people German people I don’t think some negro from Nigeria is going to have a say in the matter I don’t care if they if he says I have a piece of paper and Angela Merkel invited me, or Cameron invited me, or whatever that piece of paper will be worth absolutely nothing and they will be able to put their case forward why they think that we should leave let them stay here when they have a whole continent of their own and this is the only home that we have, you know, and that’s that and that’s coming up this these discussions these debates these decisions yes and I mean, what you just said there was fantastic for it, because what you were minded me Elf is these people out there that will try.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Some Facebook, or what have you put you into a corner and well how you going to get rid of them how you can do this, because they want you to say something violent and they want to catch you all up that die and then running off to the authorities saying that you might speak kill will have you.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">And that’s one power to listeners to be very careful this is what got lowered sperms into child someone was sending in private Facebook messages obviously and provocateurs and then they could get into site things that he thought he was saying in a cipher, because this person had views on rice etc, but this person was just trying to get evidence against him that like to take the place and then say that they were offended by what he said, but they don’t at the moment and so, you know, what we do folks is when the spokesman at the moment on I don’t see myself as suddenly becoming a politician when all this is over we have all come to his back I don’t know what I’m going to be doing and so we can’t be part of the pressure now people to actually come out a default line how this problem is going to be resolved we have a political system out there that should be resolving this problem and it might be the listeners and end up becoming a political system. As I say we can point out the problems and we can White people up to the problems, but the solutions will evolve over time as they will be governed by the will of the people and the other question I’ve got a few Alford unbothered by just on the ten minutes left so if there is anything that you want to get into the show that you have and feel free to do cite, but obviously all these governments, you know, in the UK and Germany and throughout Europe in America there’s jews in positions, but they’re not.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">So on that basis how come they all Whites through the will of the Q one want anyone stand up to them on I think that it could be two reasons One is that they were compromised and so they just go along with it and the other reason is there’s some Sampson option that we know that. They might not have just said well look we’ve got all our weapons pointed at you so if this doesn’t happen that we’ll take the whole world down with us, because I’ve already said that they’re going to do that what you will for someone like politicians.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">German heritage your heritage don’t do the right thing by the German, or English people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">All of the partitions without exception that we have now are compromised those who are not compromised never get past a certain point okay, Now a lot of them are jews a lot of them are not jews, but are just compromised people with spinal as. They just do what they’re told and that’s why we will not find a solution in the present political system you also have to understand that you mock, or see is there also a jewish construct as much as is communism OK, because with caught with democracy you can get you can tell a people all kinds of lies and then they’ll make based decisions based on these lies so it’s just a nonsensical system.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">And Another thing that’s important people have to understand is they have to understand the explosive change that we are going through is for ours that site Geist is concerned.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Now, you know, need not behave the way you would have had to behave two months ago, or two years ago with the rate of change that we’re witnessing now and I know in the UK there’s. Correct me if I’m wrong, but they have a law that even if you look at what they deem as being radical right websites, or something too often you can go to prison for fifteen years. Now how obscene is that when you actually when they say even for looking at stuff they don’t want you to look at you are making yourself. Criminally, you know, guilty I mean, that is so pathetically obscene and those of these laws are only they only They’re made to make people fear fear just keep the chains that make them slaves are the chains of fear not people just get over this fear I mean, how are they going to prison if everybody stands up and says, you know, come on get over this nonsense the “<em>Holocaust</em>” anybody who believes that is God is going to mentally retarded, or something that can’t be normal I mean, what they do have put all the people in prison for saying that and have the negro invaders close the prison gates from the outside I don’t think so see that’s the reality of these the old the best way to face these things down is just face them down I could give you a little story, you know, you know, Shirley Temple I mean, in the states everybody knows Shirley Temple, you know, she was a child actor, very famous. Well I just learned recently that she was able at the age of eleven years to face down a jewish pervert see and when she was eleven years old she was invited into this jewish film director something his office, you know, supposedly to, you know, talk about her next scene, or something like that, and then he says, you know, I have this eleven year old girl and then he says I have got something made just for you and he drops his trousers, you know, in his dog was hanging down and as an innocent eleven year old girl she had the perfect healthy reaction she just started laughing, because she didn’t understand why. The hell is this and that laughing so enraged him and totally So he now is he couldn’t go and rape her as he had intended with so brought, you know, this concept is he is a is still a chain of thought was so brought out of out of order that he threw her out of the room and this stuff is all coming out now you seem like. If an eleven year old girl can laugh down face down an attack like that then we as growing European men and women should also be able to once we have a certain understanding of what’s going on. Just face them down! That’s why I call that kike Dyke that one in five thousand euros for me for as talking about silk in Dresden that’s why I don’t call her a state authority I call it a probably a transvestite, or something if they want to put me on trial then. For God’s sakes, but don’t come to me with that kind of stuff that’s insulting, you know!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That’s why I say we have to learn who we are and what’s at stake our and higher ancestry that goes back to, you know, our ancestors they built castles they have, you know, they built it all are inventions everything comes out of the European spirit now these jewish parasites want to degrade as with our own inventions and have a bio mass of zombies that they can herd around come on that’s not that’s not our past it’s not our future it’s nothing it is absolutely nothing and we have to just face it down and that’s what we’re happy that’s what’s happening now are our job is to awaken people up to have them understand the dogs have them understand the big picture and get out of this compartmentalized way of thinking understand the big picture and then we will it’ll be it’ll come instinctively and no thought was going to be able to stop the reaction that’s going to that’s coming down the road it’s coming yes and I think the novel thing that people need to look at is look at South Africa the dying and it’s been on the black pool for just over twenty years now and it’s just the jet. Right and I’m not just talking in the tax I’m wants on talking in the general infrastructure, because even Dr James David Manning in the state saw that on the show he said blacks cannot build a city they cannot run things I just not want for that and people need to start looking at these societies and see what happens when you give power to these people what happens to what walls a first world country and it starts rapidly requests into Third World status and what are your full sold to South Africa situation is a multi for us to look at Alf what a multiple is a warning for us as to what could happen to all countries if we allow this current immigrant evaluation to continue on the plighted Well that is it is an absolute stark and dire warning, because when somebody says oh that’s racist I say Of course it’s racist I’m a racist, you know, you know, where the word racist comes from the racist was the word that the jews the communist jews in Russia used against the Russians that wanted to preserve their culture and their heritage their White people and the jews started calling them racist in a derogatory type kind of kind of a way and attach all these negative emotions that word that word is absolutely meaningless that is one of the many words that comes out of the psychological warfare department and we have to take these things okay, he said before if I have see something important I want to say I want to put this in this context if you are playing in a card game and this game is for all, or nothing and then fairly far into the game you find you notice you are playing with marked cards what do you do where you had better start calling out these cards and demanding an explanation and every one of these words in the psychological warfare Department are like marked cards you cannot win if you submit, or use these marked cards you have to talk in clear logical terms that make sense and do not start justifying, or excusing, or apologizing when these marked cards are flung at you.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">If someone says oh, but that’s racist I say what are you talking about what do you ask them to define that word racist and if they ask them What have the I asked them, this if Africans designed an airplane built the airplane and fooled and were flying the airplane would you get on that airplane not even the Africans would get on that airplane come on there, of course, there’s differences in the races and anybody who denies that is need to have their head examined, or they’re still they’re still.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Contaminated with this indoctrination that’s what it is there are contaminated with your doctor nation, you know, and that’s how we have to work in the future we have to use clear language straightforward and keep the emotions out, because this is, you know, don’t start apologizing and defending Oh I’m not a racist blah, blah, blah, blah, blah no ask them what that word means and ask them for clarification and then ask them if they get on that airplane that the Africans designed and built and they’re flying, you know, of course, they’re not going to get on, you know, and that’s all we have to work on. With pretty much out of time, but I’d like to hand back to you for the last comment you want to make to listeners what I just want to say thank you very much for calling me up and we are now very close to this thing igniting this tinderbox that we are in igniting and that’s where we have to get the maximum number of intelligent people with him with them a certain amount of understanding so that we don’t go completely insane, because this we’re going into a real crisis here and that’s what we need we need that we need the right people on our side and we can deal with it peacefully as peacefully as possible, but it’s not going to be possible without some bloodshed I fear, but that’s it I’m very optimistic thank you very much I’ll foot on the folks if I get a guest in the future notices Hoffa’s could to sell for false hope before you feel he pleased he was just fantastic this is going to be a long shot to write some pretty tough with some of the topics that he saw the and that the ability to come up again very soon some want to thank you all for listening on to be back tomorrow with Walsh and Paul I find that.</span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[[In this interview Andrew Hitchcock talks with Monika Schaefer, who went public a year ago telling the world in a YouTube video that she now knows that the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is in fact a fraud being perpetrated on the world for &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2017/07/08/andrew-hitchcock-with-monika-schaefer-on-sorry-mom-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this interview <strong>Andrew Hitchcock</strong> talks with <strong>Monika</strong> <strong>Schaefer</strong>, who went public a year ago telling the world in a YouTube video that she now knows that the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; is in fact a fraud being perpetrated on the world for sinister purposes by organized jewry. She discusses her journey of realization, starting with her shocking discovery that 9/11 was an &#8220;<em>inside job</em>&#8221; carried out by those same people behind the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; fraud, and concludes that it is imperative that more people start telling the truth about these events if we are to avoid a future of total tyranny — KATANA.]</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">on &#8220;<em>Sorry Mom</em>&#8220;</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: center;">Click here for: <a href="http://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/2017/07/07/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-380-monika-schaefer-sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust/">Andrew Carrington Hitchcock webpage for this interview</a></p>
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<div style="text-align: center;">Click here for Monika&#8217;s website:</div>
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<p><strong>Published on July 7, 2017</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (380) Monika Schaefer – Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On today’s show I was joined by <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong>, to discuss her 6 minute YouTube entitled, “<strong><em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_BZphQ7Qo">Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust</a>,</em></strong>” that you can view below.</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Sorry-Mom-VIDEO.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37285" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Sorry-Mom-VIDEO.jpg" alt="" width="771" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Sorry-Mom-VIDEO.jpg 771w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Sorry-Mom-VIDEO-600x487.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Sorry-Mom-VIDEO-768x624.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 771px) 100vw, 771px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">We also discussed: Monika’s experience in, “<em>Ritual Defamation,</em>”; Joseph Ribakoff’s ADL prizewinning paper on legislating against hate speech in 1988; how Monika has been denied a busking permit due to her political beliefs; how the Jews expect you to be tolerant of their beliefs whilst they are intolerant of differing beliefs; and many other topics.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Special thanks to <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong> for putting Monika and I in touch, so we could record this show.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">You are listening to TBR radio, brought to you by <strong>The Barnes Review</strong>.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #993300;">Now the Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show with your host, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Hello everybody. I have another new guest on today. I am delighted to have her on. Many of you will be aware of <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong>, and also that I interviewed her brother, Alfred, on my show recently. She’s got an excellent website. And the website is: <strong>freespeechmonika.worldpress.com</strong>. That’s, <strong>freespeechmonika.worldpress.com</strong>. And the “<em>Monika</em>” is spelt with a “<em>k</em>”. And, of course, I’ll be including a link to the website in the post for this show. And also the title of the show is “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em>”, which is a very famous YouTube, an excellently presented YouTube</p>

<p>that Monika is well-known for, in our movement. So, without further ado, I’m going to bring Monika up. Monika are you with me?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! Hello Andrew! Thank you so much for bringing me on to your show. It’s an honor.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Well, thank you so much for joining me. And one of the things I like to do, is people that have been oppressed by this, you know, international group of jewish bandits — would be a fair way of describing them — to actually give these people a platform on my show to explain how they have been oppressed, the things that be done to them. Just for basically expressing your thoughts and opinions. No acts of violence or anything like that.</p>
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<p>But before we get into that side of things, could you please run through for the listeners, your background, your personal background, in as little, or greater detail as you would like.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong> Y<span style="color: #0000ff;">es. I was born in Edmonton, Alberta in Canada in 1959. The fourth of five children. My parents came from Germany in 1951 and ‘52 respectively. And we grew up in a very, wonderfully traditional household of rich German traditions.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we got out camping a lot. We grew up with a very deep appreciation for nature, for the natural world. That was something that we got from our parents. We had a huge vegetable garden even though we grew up in the city, so he could say we were a little bit like urban farmers with our vegetable garden, which fed our family of seven, largely. And, you know, then I went to university, I got a degree. I kind of did normal things like that, and then I became a park warden. And that’s in a national park, some years later. I mean, I had lots of different jobs before that, but I won’t go through that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the significant thing I would say for me and my life, was my career as a park warden. I got into the back country. I had a huge back country district for a number of seasons, where I would have three horses. Travel in the wilderness basically and take care of this large district. And, you know, you’d be on your own for long periods of time, and I would say this is one of the real highlights of what I did in my life. You learned a lot of self-sufficiency out there. When things go wrong you basically have to take care of yourself!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, so that’s kind of, in a nutshell, my background, and I guess I’ll leave it at that for now.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Excellent! Well, I think now’s an opportunity, &#8230; I mean the title of this show is “<em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</em>”. And so, we can look at the political side, &#8230; I wouldn’t really call it political, it’s just your views on historical events, which for some reason is unacceptable in our so-called “tolerant society” today. So it’s tolerant of what these jews want you to be tolerant of, and intolerant of things that they don’t like, obviously.</p>
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<p>and now again, I’m going to include this in the post for our show. So I’ll just get this lined up here. I think I have it so, let me just play it now for the listeners.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Hello! I’m Monika Schaefer. I was born and raised in Canada, first generation Canadian citizen of German heritage. My parents both came from Germany. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and ‘52, respectively.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There was a bit of a disconnect between what I experienced in the home life and what I felt outside the home. I love the rich German traditions and culture that I grew up with and yet, I felt ashamed of my Germanness when I was at school, or outside with my friends. I learned very quickly to hide my heritage.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It started in the first week of school. Day one, I wore my beautiful little <em>dirndl</em>, a traditional German dress and on day two, children were taunting me:</p>
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<h3>“Oh you forgot to take off your apron! Ha ha ha!”</h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“Heil Hitler! Ha ha!”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><em>again taunting me.</em></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/German-Women-in-Traditional-dresses.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20835" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/German-Women-in-Traditional-dresses.jpg" alt="" width="891" height="609" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/German-Women-in-Traditional-dresses.jpg 891w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/German-Women-in-Traditional-dresses-300x205.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/German-Women-in-Traditional-dresses-768x525.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 891px) 100vw, 891px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] German women wearing <i>dirndl.</i> A <i>dirndl</i> is a type of traditional dress worn in Germany, especially Bavaria; Austria; and the South Tyrol, based on the traditional clothing of Alps peasants.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I didn’t exactly know the meaning of that, but I knew it was not friendly. They were being cruel. That was very clear to me.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I’m reminded, just now, of the plight of the indigenous peoples of North America. They were also made to be ashamed of their culture.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I would like to share with you now a deep regret that I have for something which I would like to apologize to my parents for, but cannot, because they are no longer alive.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Many years ago, I reproached my mother. You see I had been thoroughly indoctrinated as we all were. The stories seemed to be all around us, in school, in television in the very air, and the evilness of Adolf Hitler was as deep and diabolic as imaginable.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23384" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="671" height="659" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg 671w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2-600x589.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 671px) 100vw, 671px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I said to her, to my mother:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“Why didn’t you, your friends, your folk, your family. Why didn’t you do something to stop these bad things from happening! Stop Hitler and stop these death camps! You should have done something! You must have known!”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I was really upset, my reproach was bitter. She listened and she paused and very quietly and in a sad tone of voice, she said:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;">“We didn’t know about any of that. We just did not know. We did not hear about anything like that!”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Well, now I know why she did not know. It is, because these things did not happen! It is only since the last couple of years, since about 2014, that I have begun to understand that this is the biggest and most pernicious and persistent lie in all of history!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Everything has been turned upside down on its head!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Yes, there were detention camps. Nobody denies that there were camps! And yes, the prisoners were kept against their will. Again, nobody denies that. But these were work camps. The prisoners of the camps were being kept as healthy and as well fed as was possible in those terrible war years. They needed to be kept healthy. How else could they perform the work? It was war, and so the camps were basically armaments factories.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And how much sense does it make, by the way, to have a hospital in a death camp?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Sorry-Mom-DUM-cartoon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20833" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Sorry-Mom-DUM-cartoon.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="532" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Sorry-Mom-DUM-cartoon.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Sorry-Mom-DUM-cartoon-300x242.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image &#8211; Click to enlarge]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There were no gas chambers there. The only gas that was used was to get rid of the lice! Lice carried typhus and typhus was a deadly and rampant disease. So they had to delouse the clothing to keep the people healthy. Now, why would they do that if the goal was to just exterminate the Jews? Makes no sense. That is the “<b><i>Six Million Lie</i></b>”, as I now like to call it, in a nutshell.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There is so much more to learn about this, and this is all readily available now in 2016 thanks to the digital age, with, or without the “<i>thought laws</i>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Back to my family. What a relief it is for me to learn that my parents and grandparents were not part of a people that suddenly became monsters overnight!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The reproach which I directed at my mother, I wish I could apologize to her for this. I am, in effect, apologizing to her now, to her spirit. I would like to invite you to find out more by searching the following titles that had such a meaningful and healing influence on me.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> I’m going to read some of these titles as they come up, folks.</p>
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<p>“<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM"><em>Questioning the Holocaust — Why We Believed</em></a></span>”</p>
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<p>“<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BvRvNZo5Gk"><em>The Greatest Problem of Our Time</em></a></span>” by Ursula Haverbeck.</p>
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<p>“<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wuZQeYBJoI"><em>Off Your Knees Germany</em></a>” by Ernst Zundel.</p>
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<p>The music was “<em>Don Messer’s Breakdown</em>” and the video was produced by Alfred Schaefer, Monika’s brother, who, of course, I’ve had on this program before.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m now going to bring Monika back. That’s an excellent video Monika. Of course, YouTube says it’s had 133,000 views<span style="color: #008000;"> [currently 144,892 as of Nov 2, 2017]</span>, just to let the listeners know. When I went into Google yesterday to get a copy of this, it gave me the top link to a video with 324 views. So for some reason it has not brought up the top viewed YouTube, which it should do, because that was <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPPoJnqloZJcj_T-Il6lx5w">Alfred Schaefer’s YouTube</a> channel that has the 133,000. And then when I went on the one with 324 <span style="color: #008000;">[views]</span> today in preparation for the show, I saw that it had been removed, overnight. So I’m pleased Alfred’s is still there. And the reason that I found Alfred’s is — I’ve promoted this before folks — they should really be giving me a commission, but it’s the website <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/">Duck Duck Go</a>. That’s &#8220;<em>Duck Duck Go</em>&#8220;. It’s a search engine essentially and it says that it doesn’t track you., but I think most importantly, it doesn’t manage it’s results. So when I typed in Monika Schaefer’s “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_BZphQ7Qo"><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></a>” the top entry that came up was the most viewed YouTube on the subject, which is the one I just played, off of Alfred Schaefer’s YouTube channel, which I have included in the post for this show. So I just want to clarify that for everybody.</p>
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<p>Now back to you Monika. We now move on to your political awakening. Can you explain to listeners how you first came up with the real truth, sorry, not came up with, how you first stumbled upon the truth about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” rather than the official lies that we’ve been told by the mainstream media?</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes thank you. How I reached my conclusions? Well, it began just a few years after 9/11, I ran into somebody who was telling me that there’s this thing called the “<em>Truth Movement</em>” in the United States, primarily. And that the people who are in this Truth Movement, they did not believe the official story of what happened on 9/11. And I was very interested in what he was telling me. And I listened with wide open eyes and I went home and would have liked to know more. </span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2365-WTC-Tower-being-blown-apart.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21565" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2365-WTC-Tower-being-blown-apart.jpg" alt="" width="987" height="658" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2365-WTC-Tower-being-blown-apart.jpg 987w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2365-WTC-Tower-being-blown-apart-300x200.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2365-WTC-Tower-being-blown-apart-768x512.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 987px) 100vw, 987px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] WTC Tower in the process of being destroyed in a top-down controlled demolition (click image to enlarge). </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911/">Organized jewry Did 9/11</a><br />
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, I didn’t even own a computer back then! I could have gone to the library and looked it up. But you know, how things go, life is busy and you just get on with your day-to-day. But it always stayed in my mind. So then a few years later, and I would say this was now ten years after 9/11 happened. So maybe in 2011 when my brother, Alfred, started to send some e-mails to family members about 9/11. And he was already then well-informed about who did it and, you know, not just that the official story couldn’t be true, but going, you know, much further than that. And I was really wanting to know and I just said:</span></p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>How do, you know, this? Where did you get this? </em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, he obliged, steering me in the direction to learn a lot more. And then I couldn’t stop! Of course, by then I had a computer as well at home, so that made researching this much, much easier.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1005-WTC-Tower-exploding.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37290" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1005-WTC-Tower-exploding.gif" alt="" width="773" height="496" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] One of the WTC Towers being blown to bits by top-down massive controlled demolition (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">So really, my awakening started with 9/11. And I have to say it was very, very difficult time for me, because I felt kind of nauseous, for weeks at a time.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [15:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I was figuring out that what we grew up believing, that is, that government is for the people, by the people, of the people, that was this mantra that we learned and really came to believe. That was simply not true! That they are not on our side! And if the government could be lying to us about something so big, that just turns your world upside down. So even though now I look back at the story of 9/11 and I think it’s a kindergarten level of entry to realize that we’re being lied to. Because when you do look at it, it is just so elementary to figure out that with they told us about it is completely a fairy tale!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-37276" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-1024x735.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="459" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-1024x735.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-600x431.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials-768x552.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Ernst-Zundel-and-Toronto-Holocaust-Trials.jpg 1121w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong>Ernst Zundel</strong> and the Toronto &#8220;<em>Holocaust Trials</em>&#8221; of 1985 and 1988 (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">So then after that, maybe a couple of years later, I started to come up against, well come up against — I resisted at first — you know, the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. Like that this is a big lie! And it’s not brand new because, you know, growing up in Canada during the eighty’s, <strong>Ernst Zundel</strong> was in the news during those Toronto trials, ‘85 and ‘88, and that was daily news for a while there. And it was, more or less, background noise for me. Because, first of all, the way the media presented him, one just thought he’s a crazy guy! He’s probably a bad man, or that’s the way they presented him. And at that time I was really asleep at the wheel and it was, like I say, it was a bit of background noise.<span style="color: #008000;"> [I] </span>didn’t really pay too much attention.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In retrospect I wish I had of paid attention, because if you had of read the articles and actually read them, you would have learned a lot, because in the newspapers they did actually have to report to some degree what took place in those trials. And it was astonishing what came out in those trials! It’s monumental what came from those trials!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37287" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg" alt="" width="825" height="1007" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article.jpg 825w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article-600x732.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Zundel-Trial-Newspaper-article-768x937.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 825px) 100vw, 825px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Newspaper article on the Toronto &#8220;<em>Holocaust Trial</em>&#8221; of 1985 (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, but that was back then and the “<em>Holocaust</em>” I mean, how can somebody say it didn’t happen? It’s like this huge, huge thing, that how could they lie about something so big? Those are the thoughts that go through your head. So then when I started to be confronted with, that this might be a lie and when I finally dared to look! Oh! It didn’t take long at all Andrew, before I realized:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh my goodness! There is a lot here to be seen!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And once I started, once I just let myself look, I realized very, very quickly:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, there’s something wrong with this story! Very wrong with it!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then I also just researched and researched, because I wasn’t going to just go on, you know, day one of research and say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, didn’t happen!” <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Something I believed all my life, that everybody else believes all our lives and:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, didn’t happen!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">No, I did a thorough investigation into it! And I became very satisfied and yes! We are not wrong when we are saying this is the biggest lie! It is a lie and it is a hoax! And we have truth on our side.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, I’ll leave it at that for the moment.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Well, it’s very interesting and I’m pleased that you brought up 9/11, because it’s come to my attention that the recently released sequel to the film “<strong><em>Trainspotting</em></strong>”, I think it’s called “<strong><em>T2 Trainspotting</em></strong>”, or something. It’s twenty years after the original, and there’s a bit in it where Ewan McGregor character — I don’t know what he’s called in the film — but he says:</p>
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<h3>“Choose to believe that 9/11 was a hoax, or if it did happen, the jews did it!”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-T2-Trainspotting.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37291" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-T2-Trainspotting.jpg" alt="" width="796" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-T2-Trainspotting.jpg 796w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-T2-Trainspotting-600x268.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-T2-Trainspotting-768x343.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 796px) 100vw, 796px" /></a><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/andrew-hitchcock-monika-schaefer-t2-trainspotting.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-14739" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/andrew-hitchcock-monika-schaefer-t2-trainspotting.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="223" /></a></p>
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<p>And I was astonished to hear that! So obviously they put that in there to try and ridicule those of us who say that it was the Jews that were behind it. But the volume of our information has got so loud, that even in mainstream films they’re having to address this now. And they’re having to try and tell people it’s a ridiculous concept that we’re putting forward. Which goes to show why they’re doing so much work in censoring things like Google, which I just gave the example of. And You Tube, or what have you, taking different things down.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Patrick-Grimm-What-is-Extremism-book-The-Synagogue-of-Satan-Andrew-Hitchcock.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22427" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Patrick-Grimm-What-is-Extremism-book-The-Synagogue-of-Satan-Andrew-Hitchcock.jpg" alt="" width="828" height="775" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Patrick-Grimm-What-is-Extremism-book-The-Synagogue-of-Satan-Andrew-Hitchcock.jpg 828w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Patrick-Grimm-What-is-Extremism-book-The-Synagogue-of-Satan-Andrew-Hitchcock-600x562.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Patrick-Grimm-What-is-Extremism-book-The-Synagogue-of-Satan-Andrew-Hitchcock-768x719.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px" /></a><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/patrick-grimm-what-is-extremism-book-the-synagogue-of-satan-andrew-hitchcock.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-14404" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/patrick-grimm-what-is-extremism-book-the-synagogue-of-satan-andrew-hitchcock.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="468" /></a></p>
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<p>And this next section of the show I know that you’re an expert on “<em>ritual defamation</em>” based upon what’s been happening to you. And I’ve read this section of my book on a different show before — I forget which one — but it’s very important. It’s from 1988, it’s from “<a href="http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-carrington-hitchcock/the-synagogue-of-satan-updated-expanded-and-uncensored/paperback/product-18867727.html"><em><strong>The Synagogue of Satan — Updated, Expanded, and Uncensored</strong></em></a>&#8220;. And this is what it says:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [19:49]</strong></span></p>
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<h3>&#8220;The Anti Defamation League, the ADL, initiated a nationwide competition for law students to draft anti-hate legislation designed to protect minority groups. That competition is won by a man named Joseph Ribakoff, who’s proposal stipulate that not only must hate motivated violence be banned, but any words which stimulate suspicion, friction, hatred, and possible violence must also be criminalized.&#8221;</h3>
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<p>This ADL prize-winning paper suggests that not only should state agencies monitor and restrict free speech in general, but they should also censor all films that criticize identifiable groups. Furthermore, even if the person making the statement can justify it, for example, Christians criticizing homosexuality, because the Bible expressly forbids it, Ribakoff asserts that the truth is to be no defense in court — sounds like the “<em>Holocaust</em>” laws, doesn’t it folks — the only proof a court will need in order to secure a conviction of hate speech, is that something has been said and the minority group, or member of such group has felt emotionally damaged as a result of such criticisms.</p>
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<p>Therefore, under these proposals which the ADL will have forced into law, all over the world, less than fifteen years later through their bought and paid for politicians and media, Jesus Christ would have been arrested as a “<em>hate criminal</em>”! This law is designed to protect the Rothschild conspiracy from being revealed, in that if you criticize the Rothschild’s criminal cabal, you will be targeted as anti-semitic and thus risk imprisonment. It is also interesting to note that say, for example, a rabbi torches his synagogue to collect insurance money, because it is in need of repair, as opposed to someone else perpetrating the crime who was found to have an interest in anti-establishment media, the latter would receive a stiffer sentence for the same act!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-20579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-708x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="926" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-708x1024.jpg 708w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation-207x300.jpg 207w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Elements-of-a-Ritual-Defamation.jpg 742w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The Elements of Ritual Defamation by Dr. Fredrick Toben (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p>So, Monika, just to bring you in regarding ritual defamation. When you look at this, and this was from 1988, this competition, so we’re looking at thirty years ago, it was put together by the Jewish ADL. It’s pretty clear isn’t it, who’s behind all this restriction on free speech, all this censoring of things on Google and Facebook, and taking videos down on YouTube. They’ve pretty much shown themselves that it’s been the Jews all along, haven’t they Monika?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">It is astonishing! That this can exist! This, whatever this “<em>hate speech</em>” what is that? You know, it is, &#8220;<em>truth is hate to those who hate the truth</em>&#8220;, in a nutshell, is what you could say about it. And I mean, when they even say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The truth is to be no defense in court.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If people understand that, how can they not wake up to the fact that something is so deeply wrong with this? You know, “<em>hate speech</em>” legislation, what does that actually mean? It just means that this group of people does not want you to expose their acts, their criminal acts, what they are doing! And I think, because of the psychological warfare that has been conducted on us for a very, very long time, people are not able to come out of this.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I mean, some people are, why do some people have the capacity to come out of it? And yet others would just say:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh no! I’m not going to discuss this! I’m not going to debate it. We can’t talk about this!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, we’re going to shun you anyway. We are going to ostracize you anyway! How much sense does that make? But you find out that it’s not about logic and that is a real disappointment to me. I always just thought that if you explain things to people, or they find out what, you know, logically, and truthfully, and with evidence what happened, in any situation, whether it’s about 9/11, or about some local event that has happened, whatever it is, or something so large as World War Two history and the “<em>Holocaust</em>” story, you would just think that they would then be able to look at that themselves and understand!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it doesn’t work that way! I’m sure you have found that yourself, that it just doesn’t work that way. You can shower the people with evidence like <strong>Yuri Bezmenov</strong> has famously said. That KGB defector whose job it was to, &#8230; Well I’m not exactly sure what his job was, but it was about fooling the people basically. That he understands this, that you can shower the people with all the evidence in the world and it might not make a difference. Because if they have been thoroughly demoralized, and that is what has happened to us, we have become demoralized with all the false information and the undermining of culture and what not.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [25:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I could talk a little bit about the ritual defamation aspect of this, and this is not something I set out to become an expert on! It is has come to me, because of my video. I live in a town of approximately five thousand people, <strong>Jasper</strong>, Alberta, in Canada. This is in the middle of a national park, and this national park, <strong>Jasper National Park</strong> is also contiguous with a few other national parks and wilderness areas, and it is World Heritage Site. It&#8217;s a very significant place on this beautiful earth, and we get millions of tourists every year. But the town itself, five thousand people, it’s like this little bubble! Because people who live here, they work here, they play here. It’s not a bedroom community. It’s not really a commuter community, so people really do live here. It’s quite encapsulated.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33743" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-1024x727.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="454" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-1024x727.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-600x426.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta-768x545.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-Map-of-Jasper-Alberta.jpg 1113w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jasper, Alberta Canada (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, I’ve always thought well, it’s got a strong community and Jasper prides itself on “<em>embracing diversity</em>”.<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> I mean, there’s all kinds of buzzwords in this town that, you know, where we have a huge festivals. And one of them is the Pride Festival and all these things that happen here that make people here believe that we have just such a wonderful, you know, we embrace everything, we’re tolerant and all.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, I have found out to my chagrin what this community, the true colors actually of this community, and it’s not pretty. It’s not pretty at all!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Basically, after my video came out there were some key people who declared publicly on social media that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Monika Schaefer is no longer welcome in this community, in this town”.</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they’ve banned me from this and that. The other thing, one of the local establishments, the Legion, which is in this town, it’s actually a venue for many activities, musical activities, community events, it’s actually a hub of activity there. They have banned me outright! I have not been able to set foot in that place, since a year now. And it has been a year now since my video came out. I just, you know, it’s one year anniversary on June 17th, from when that happened. So that was a little bit of a significant date in my life. It’s like, you know, giving birth, or something!<span style="color: #008000;"> [laughing]</span> Anyway, so that’s one story, is the Legion.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-22164" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-1024x709.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="443" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-1024x709.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-600x416.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer-768x532.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3675-Jasper-Legion-bans-Monika-Schaefer.jpg 1142w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a>[Image] The Legion in Jasper, putting its reputation in the gutter (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But another story is busking. This is an activity which has recently been sanctioned in this town, and largely due to my efforts years ago when I approached the town council to say, look, busking is when you go out and play on a public sidewalk and open your case, play music, and passersby they can throw a coin in if they so choose. And this used to be illegal here, funny enough! I mean, it’s a perfect place for such an activity, you know, lots of tourists come and it’s in a setting, a beautiful setting. So it would be a perfect place for it. So finally, they did allow it for the first time last summer. And lo and behold, when I went to apply for my busking license, they said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Because of your non-inclusive beliefs, actually your publicly proclaimed non-inclusive beliefs, we are denying you a busking permit”.</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-talking-about-her-violin-playing.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37282" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-talking-about-her-violin-playing.jpg" alt="" width="933" height="840" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-talking-about-her-violin-playing.jpg 933w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-talking-about-her-violin-playing-600x540.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-talking-about-her-violin-playing-768x691.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 933px) 100vw, 933px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yf7LA5hnEE&amp;feature=c4-overview&amp;list=UUYc2gpkTFYDws_glNif07pA">Monika talking about her violin playing</a> (Click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they told me to take a look at the “<strong><em>Values and Principles</em></strong>” statement of this art institution here, called the <strong>Habitat for the Arts</strong>. And, because of this principles and values statement that supposedly I was not adhering to, I would not be given a busking license! I thought this was quite, quite upside down, because they themselves broke every statement in that “<em>Values and Principles</em>” statement by denying me a busking permit!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, they talk about:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We embrace new challenges and ideas! And we learn from each other, we help each other grow through knowledge exchange, and support!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These are things right in their “<em>Values</em>” statement. And I mean, don’t you think that by denying me a busking permit, because of my video, “<strong><em>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust</em></strong>”, they’ve broken all those values! So lo and behold, just yesterday, I learned that this summer, after a long winter of meetings and procedural reviews on, &#8230; Okay, they said this summer the vetting process for who’s to receive a busking permit would be based on talent. When they said that to a town council meeting at which I was present, and I also gave a presentation.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [30:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I thought, I interpreted that as an admission that they had erred last year when they denied me a Busking Permit due to my publicly proclaimed “<em>non-inclusive beliefs</em>”, quote, unquote. And, they said that this summer, yes, they would base it on talent, and I mean, the people all along, always said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! It’s not about your musical ability, we all know you can play”.</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, they stated it in the newspapers, they stated it at the town council meeting, &#8230; I mean they made it very, very clear that they didn’t want me playing my violin on the streets of Jasper, because of my views!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37281" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg" alt="" width="707" height="616" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin.jpg 707w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Monika-playing-violin-600x523.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 707px) 100vw, 707px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] A wonderful portrait of Monika Schaefer with her violin.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, what do my views have to do with my violin playing?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And a little bit of background to that, I have played in this town for many, many years. I’ve lived here for thirty-five years and I have been asked to play at fundraisers and I do so, I have done that many, many times. I play for the seniors, I play for the children, I play at community dinners, I play all over the place in this town. I have given my music to the people here, and they have always been very appreciative of my music. So it’s not about, you know, playing squeaky notes or anything, that they have denied me my Busking Permit, &#8230; They have all appreciated my music over the years.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But now, they would like to, basically, drive me out of town, and they are really pulling out all the stops to keep me off.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, yesterday I received the email, after this long process of the audition, which was really full of, you know, all kinds of fancy rules. Well, they broke all their own rules! And I won’t get into the details of that, because it’ll take way too long. But, they did make all kinds of rules, and a process, &#8230; And really that this is just garbage! Because they didn’t follow any of that!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They sent me an email saying, oh:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“I didn’t get enough points in their point system, with this Committee.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Faceless, nameless people, on a committee to determine the busking <span style="color: #008000;">[licenses]</span>. So basically, I didn’t get my Busking Permit! This is brand new news to me! I was reeling yesterday when I found it out! I mean, I wasn’t surprised, I kind of knew that they would find some way to keep me off the streets to play my violin, but that just happened. — Yeah, so there you go!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Well, the jews expect you to be tolerant of their beliefs, while they are intolerant of yours! And the fact is, is that applying to play a violin — if they’re worried about you saying anything — they just need to say:</p>
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<h3>“Well the permit is just for you to play the violin. You are not allowed to air any views, or what have you, that we don’t like”.</h3>
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<p>Which again, isn’t acceptable to me, but the fact is you are applying to play a violin.</p>
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<p>But this is typical jewish behavior, and what they do, &#8230; If you do anything that upsets them, they will do all that they can to hurt you in any way that they can! And so they know that there is no risk of you exposing them anymore by playing the violin, but they think:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh, she said something about us, so we’re going to get her here, we’re going to get her there, we’re going to get her everywhere!”</h3>
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<p>And this is their nature; that countless people through history, &#8230; I mean, Martin Luther talked about this, &#8230; This people being, you know, basically:</p>
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<h3>“Deplorable, ruthless, vindictive!”</h3>
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<p>I think was the word that he used:</p>
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<h3>“This vindictive race!”</h3>
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<p>Harry Truman even said — and there’s questions over his ethnicity — he said he’s always found the jews to be quite a “<em>cruel people</em>”. They have to have everything their own way and they don’t care who they hurt to get it.</p>
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<p>And of course, because we’ve let this group of “<em>bandits</em>” essentially take over the world, they now think:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><strong>“Right! We own the media. We own the politicians. So, we’re just going to do a little sweep-up operation here. We’re going to put laws in place, so anyone that tries to expose us, we’ll just make laws and throw them in jail!”</strong></h3>
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<p>This is the arrogance, and the deplorable behavior of this race in general! And I refer to them as “<em>a race in general</em>”, because I never see any jews who seem to be speaking out against it, &#8230; You’ll get the odd one, like a Gilad Atzmon. But again, &#8230; They’re so few and far between, and I question their significance, because when you can only pick out one or two, it goes to show how many of them go along with it.</p>
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<p>And it is shocking to me that the world we live in today, &#8230; It’s not a world that I want to really be in! Because my freedoms are being taken away. I see the darkening of my country. I see the promotion of all this race-mixing, and, if I go out and speak out about it, and say:</p>
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<h3>“Oh, by the way, don’t you realize that by doing this you’re destroying your own race?”</h3>
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<p>We’re the only species on the planet that does this!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [35:03]</span><br />
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<p>You see penguins that march across the South Pole to migrate, to literally go through these terrible conditions for months in order to hatch one egg! That they then take turns looking after, as they walk seventy-miles to feed. But they do that, and they put up with these conditions, because they see that their sole purpose in life is to keep their species going.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-European-Gene-Pool-cartoon.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37277" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-European-Gene-Pool-cartoon.jpg" alt="" width="705" height="529" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-European-Gene-Pool-cartoon.jpg 705w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-European-Gene-Pool-cartoon-600x450.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 705px) 100vw, 705px" /></a></p>
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<p>What the White people are doing is they’re actively killing their own species at the behest of these jews! Because they believe everything that they see and hear in the media. And people that try and point out that they’re wrong, they’re fast looking to enact laws to shut up, and that’s people like you and I.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the peril that we’re in, and this is why I say to people: Get Monika’s video, download it, you can get, &#8230; I think you can get add-ons to Firefox where you can actually download YouTubes <span style="color: #008000;">[videos]</span>, so you’ve got them yourselves, so whenever they take them down, it doesn’t matter, you’ve got your own copy.</p>
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<p>Save my shows! Because you don’t know how long they are going to be available and when they either shut us up, put us in prison, taken the web-sites down, whatever; &#8230; Because, I gave examples earlier in this show, about the YouTube<span style="color: #008000;"> [your video]</span>, it was there yesterday, gone today! I had to find it on another channel! And it goes on and on, and on. Over to you Monika for your thoughts on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, I also encourage people to get physical books! As great as it is to be able to get the resources on the Internet, and online, and even read books online, I think it’s also a good idea to have books in people’s homes, in as many people’s homes as possible! Because like you say, we don’t really know how this is going to unfold in the future. And just for the sake of future people, that to understand what is really going on, the more books exist, in the more places, the more chance there is that the truth will really be exposed, you know, be out there, and that the lies’ exposed. And so that’s another aspect of it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you know, you talked about the poisoning of the mind, &#8230; Well actually that’s something I want to bring into this, that how does it, how does it come to be that people are so afraid to look into these matters?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think that the poisoning of the mind by all this weaponized language, the weaponized words, and when you read that piece, you know, when the ADL had their competition about hate speech legislation. It was right in there about “<em>weaponizing</em>” the language, really. It’s not only acts of violence that they were going to criminalize, but they’re going to criminalize speech! Criminalize words! “<em>Criminalize words</em>” — I mean, that’s George Orwell one hundred percent!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/House-of-Orwell-Book-1984-SIGNET-EDITION.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20588" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/House-of-Orwell-Book-1984-SIGNET-EDITION.gif" alt="" width="360" height="610" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">People should watch that movie again, or read the book <em><strong>1984</strong></em>. It is chilling how it rings true for right now, what is going on. And George Orwell was actually trying to give a warning to us with that futuristic novel that he wrote back in 1948 or 1949. And when all of the poisoning of the minds, is what keeps people from being able to see, and look, and even when presented with evidence, that is what has happened.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And like, back to this small town here where I live, with five thousand people. You know, many people treat me very, very friendly. They know that there’s something deeply wrong with how I am being treated in the community, and shunned and ostracized. And they know there’s something wrong with that, and they’ve known me for a long time, and they will greet me very friendly. I mean, you see people at the post office, in the grocery store, and basically you’re always running into familiar faces, and many treat me with great friendliness.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Welcome-to-Jasper-A-Town-of-Tolerance-and-Diversity.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-37286" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Welcome-to-Jasper-A-Town-of-Tolerance-and-Diversity-734x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="893" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Welcome-to-Jasper-A-Town-of-Tolerance-and-Diversity-734x1024.jpg 734w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Welcome-to-Jasper-A-Town-of-Tolerance-and-Diversity-600x837.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Welcome-to-Jasper-A-Town-of-Tolerance-and-Diversity.jpg 744w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] The postcard image of a beautifully &#8220;<em>tolerant and diverse</em>&#8221; town of Jasper, Alberta, Canada, hides something quite sinister. There lurks, below the everyday surface of normal life, a force, a power, that is absolutely intolerant of any challenge to its authority (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But people are still afraid to look into the issues and to, &#8230; I think there must be some who do, and I hope that I’ve actually made an impact on some people, and that they actually will, and do look into it, and maybe question what we’ve been taught all our lives. But you see, they’re made afraid to publicly talk about these things, because they see what happens to somebody like me who comes out very publicly, and they don’t want to lose their jobs, they don’t want to lose their friendships, their family relations, this kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s how it is done to us! That’s why ritual defamation happens! The purpose of it is to make it very clear to the general population that you just don’t break this taboo, by, &#8230;basically, that’s what it is: The “<em>Holocaustianity</em>” — It’s become the new religion and if you violate this taboo, well you’re going to be in deep trouble and your life is not going to be that good anymore! So that’s why people are afraid to look at it.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [40:09]</span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, you know, having said that, I want to make it very, very clear that I am not looking for sympathy here, or anything like that! I have a very good life! I’m at peace with what I’m doing. I feel very happy really with where I’m at, because I know that I have truth on my side, and this is a deeply, &#8230; It’s a good thing! It gives one a very deep sense of peace and tranquility when, you know, that you have truth on your side. It doesn’t matter if you’re in a minority. It really doesn’t!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That becomes irrelevant, because we are working for the greater good, we are working for peace! We are at the core of the peace movement when we seek to speak the truth. Don’t you think that’s true, Andrew?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes I do. And you know, what you said about getting physical books, this is what I’ve always said to people.</p>
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<p>Something like a book, &#8230; If there’s an EMP attack<span style="color: #008000;"> [electromagnetic pulse]</span> the book will still work for you! But anything that you have to play electronically may not work for you, so you can downloading shows and burning them to disc, or drives, or what have you — whilst I still encourage it — they could be taken out by that. And the other thing is a lot of people are depending on Kindle <span style="color: #008000;">[an electronic Reader, made by Amazon]</span> recently, and what you have to bear in mind — I don’t own a Kindle so I may be wrong here — but to my mind they could dip into that Kindle, and as soon as they, say, Amazon don’t offer a book for sale anymore, the next step will be: — well anyone who’s got it on their Kindle, we need to wipe it off there because we don’t support that anymore — and they’ll be into your Kindles, wiping things off!</p>
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<p>I know recently, I had, &#8230; I got a new phone and I had to download my Apps, again. And one of them I had actually paid for:</p>
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<h3>“Oh, this App’s not available in your country”.</h3>
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<p>Well it was when I bought it a year or two ago. But now I can’t put it back on my phone, because they’ve changed it and said it’s not available, even though I already paid for it! So, you know, they could mess about with all this sort of stuff, any way which they choose.</p>
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<p>I think that the real situation that we need to face, is getting the message out to people. And I mean I still use Twitter and Facebook, but I don’t know how long I’ll have them, and I certainly feel that both have had their, &#8230; Certainly the Twitter, I think, it’s having it’s followers hemorrhaged, judging by the feedback that I get. And Facebook is having it’s posts hemorrhaged, because so many people, &#8230; Some can see some posts, some can’t see others. And they check their settings and made sure that they’ve got it set up to “<em>see all posts</em>”, not just posts from friends. So I’m talking about when I put a post out and people comment on it, so I’m actually referring to comments on posts, sorry folks, &#8230; A bit confused there. And I know what they’re doing there. All sorts of stuff.</p>
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<p>And funnily enough recently I went to post a show about, &#8230; It was Harry Cooper’s show about Hitler in Argentina, and it automatically posts from my site to Twitter,<span style="color: #008000;"> [and]</span> to Facebook. And for some reason it didn’t post to Twitter, that one! Didn’t like that one! I think because it had the word “<em>Hitler</em>” in it — they said: “<em>Ooh! We can’t have that!</em>” And so I had to post it manually. And I posted it, because these people, you see, what they do is they stop it there, because they think that you won’t check. But of course each time, it goes back to what Teresa May <span style="color: #008000;">[British Prime Minister]</span> said:</p>
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<h3>“Oh, we will frustrate these people any way we can! ”</h3>
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<p>But if you have to double-check everything, then that’s adding extra things that you have to do on to your day, and it’s very easy to miss stuff when you’ve got everything else to deal with.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-24545" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem-1024x782.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="489" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem-1024x782.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem-600x458.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem-768x586.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Fred-Leuchter-52-Aerial-view-of-Yad-Vashem.jpg 1103w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] <strong><em>Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum</em></strong>, Israel. A major source of &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; brainwashing and indoctrination for jews.<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they’re definitely doing this even though it’s illegal. The way that they removed these books from Amazon, because the “<em>Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum</em>” didn’t like them. And they went bleating to Amazon saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Oooh! We’ve had all these threats against synagogues, and so you’ve got to take these hateful books down!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, they took them down and then they found out that the threats were made by a jew in Israel!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23860" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="668" height="1025" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-COVER.jpg 668w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Amazon-Bans-100s-of-Holocaust-Revisionist-Books-COVER-600x921.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<em>Amazion</em>&#8221; complies with jewish pressure and bans books that actually tells the truth about the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/03/09/amazion-bans-100s-of-holocaust-revisionist-books/">Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!</a></span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> What did they do? Did they write back to Amazon and say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“Oh, you can put the books back up, because it was one of our people?”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No! It was “<em>jewish lightning</em>” over and over again! This was all orchestrated so that they could get this thing in play. If, what we’re saying, is so ridiculous, then you’d be happy to let people say it, because you’d be:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well, it’s so obviously not true! But why are we even bothered about it?”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Jewish-Lightning-the-American-jew.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37279" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Jewish-Lightning-the-American-jew.jpg" alt="" width="956" height="1011" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Jewish-Lightning-the-American-jew.jpg 956w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Jewish-Lightning-the-American-jew-600x635.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Jewish-Lightning-the-American-jew-768x812.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 956px) 100vw, 956px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] &#8220;<em>Jewish lightning</em>&#8221; is a term used to describe deliberate acts of arson by jews for insurance fraud purposes.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/02/20/the-american-jew-an-expose-of-his-career-part-4/">THE AMERICAN JEW AN EXPOSE OF HIS CAREER — Part 4</a>. (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika:</strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> But they know that it’s true, they know that it’s true! And they know that people are waking up to this jewish control, which goes back to me mentioning a mainstream film<span style="color: #008000;"> [which]</span> even included the line about the jews did 9/11. So, it’s far bigger than anything we’re aware of at the moment.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [45:15]</span><br />
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<p>I think that there’s millions of people that know this information, and that’s why you’ve got the government leaders running around like headless chickens trying to push this legislation through, so that people stop talking about it. But that’s not going to happen! Even if they get rid of us, because as soon as they start silencing people, people smell a rat! And it’s a giant jew rat! I would add. So in that sense, I think that it’s much of the same folks who’ve got to keep getting the information out, spreading it to other people. And that’s the way I see going forward. How about yourself, Monika?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh that is so absolutely true! There were so many things that I want to address here, what you just talked about Andrew.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">First, I’ll start with the fact that many, many more people know and understand the truth, than is apparent. And it is really important for us to know that, and to spread even just that truth! That many more people are awake than is apparent! And there is an obvious reason for that. People who know and understand, but for reasons of, you know, that they, &#8230; Just, for economic reasons and whatever the situation is in life at that point in time, they can’t come out with such a public video like, “<em>Sorry Mom</em>”. You know, they are still there and they are helping in other ways.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know this, because I received a lot of correspondence, and letters, and comments from people who are very well aware and wide awake, but they’re not necessarily saying this in their own small town, or in their communities, for those reasons. Because they can’t afford at this time, maybe they have young children they’re still raising, whatever, they can’t afford to have their lives turned upside down.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you see, it’s really part of this psychological warfare against us. To make it look like we are just a very isolated few “<em>nut-cases</em>” that have these crazy ideas. We are social animals, so people will go along, you know, with what it looks like, what everybody else believes.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now if the masses, many people saw that, “<em>Gee, there’s, &#8230;</em>” Maybe five percent of the population, or ten percent of the population, actually no one understands how many, they’re going to go:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, okay, maybe I should take a look at that?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Whereas if they think it’s just one out of, you know, ten thousand people that have these ideas, well they’re not going to bother looking at us. That’s an important part of the psychological warfare! It’s to make us think that we are very alone, and very isolated, and just a few of us! That, you know, that they’ll make us look crazy, or something! But that’s an important aspect of it.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-37278" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Hey-Rabbi-Whatcha-Doin-Hey-Look-everybody.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what you also said about these things that happen, like the swastikas on synagogues, or in gravestones being turned over, and then they take down books at Amazon, &#8230; That’s all part of this false-flag narrative! So they’re doing it themselves, then they achieve their goal, which might be the burning of the books, or it might be a new piece of legislation, and then we find out:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh! It was them that did it all along!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes! It’s all part of the false-flag narrative. They do something to make it look like it was the other, and then they achieve their goal, and then we find out the truth, or some of us find out the truth. And of course, they try to suppress that, or they make hate speech legislation, they throw us in jail, or whatever they want to do!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, I also want to say that the fact that they are so hysterically trying to suppress the truth, is proof that they need us to be ignorant, in order to achieve what they’re doing. In other words, there is hope that if more people were to understand, and to open their eyes, and to wake up to what is going on, that basically takes away the jewish power. That’s the conclusion I have reached.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because when people say,</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Ahh, there’s no hope! We can’t do anything about it anyway! And what can one person do?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, if that was really the case, that there’s no hope and what can one person really do, then they wouldn’t bother trying to drive people like me out of town, or to do bad things to those of us who are awake! I mean, they wouldn’t bother! They wouldn’t care, right? It just wouldn’t be important.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, that is proof! That this giant awakening which is happening is just so important and we need to really be working harder than ever <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span> to make this happen, to wake people up, to educate people, educate ourselves, educate others! And to carry on and to do so with hope and positiveness! Yes! We can bring this out. Light always trump’s dark, doesn’t it?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [50:25]</span><br />
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Mossad-motto.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37284" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Mossad-motto.jpg" alt="" width="751" height="427" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Mossad-motto.jpg 751w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-Mossad-motto-600x341.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Yes. Of course, what you said about the way that they do these things, and they’re behind the attacks, and then they blame someone else to get things passed, like legislation, it takes me back to the Mossad motto:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3>“By way of deception thousand shalt do war”.</h3>
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<p>And the other thing is, if they know what we say about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” — I would say that they know exactly what we say about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” being false, is actually true. They know that six million didn’t die. They know that there were no gas chambers. And the reason that I can tell that to the listeners, is that if they didn’t know that, then why would they insert:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3>“The truth is no defense”, in their hate-crimes legislation?</h3>
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<p>Why do they always like that Ribakoff piece that I read earlier on? It specifically said:</p>
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<h3>“The truth would be no defense in regard to the hate crimes legislation?”</h3>
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<p>So they’ve been geared up to the fact that there’d be a few of us out there that will try and get the truth to the masses. As they exert a greater level of control, and when they get to that stage, where they’re at now, that’s when they need to exert that level of control and make sure that when they get us in court they can’t be thrown out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like what happened in the trial, &#8230; I think one of the Rothschild’s in the early 1900s sued a particular publication for reporting the 1815 story of how Nathan Rothschild pretended Napoleon had won the war. And as a result got all the traders on the London Stock Exchange to sell all their consuls. And then he instructed his agents to surreptitiously buy them all back when they had gone right down in value. And then miraculously found out that Wellington had won the war, when Rothschild already knew this, because he had one of his couriers sent over there, reporting back quickly! And that story was run about a hundred years later, and a Rothschild sued on it, and was told:</p>
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<h3>“No, that story is true! ”</h3>
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<p>And he had to pay the legal costs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so, they don’t want that to happen again. And the jews are like elephants, folks, they never forget. And so they think:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“Right, we didn’t have enough control there, so what we need, we need to cause a situation in which it doesn’t matter what evidence you have!”</h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the recent international definition of anti-Semitism, &#8230; Again it states that if you say, for example:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3>“The jews control the media! ”</h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-jews-control-the-media-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37280" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-jews-control-the-media-montage.jpg" alt="" width="739" height="923" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-jews-control-the-media-montage.jpg 739w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Andrew-Hitchcock-Monika-Schaefer-jews-control-the-media-montage-600x749.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Jewish control of our media admitted by jews (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p>Even if you can go to court, and you can produce the list of all these giant companies that are owned by jews that control the media, they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“No, truth is no defense!”</h3>
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<p>And so it’s an absolute nonsense! And then they talk about living in a democracy, with justice, and all this, &#8230; These people are so, so evil!</p>
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<p>And the politicians that do their bidding are even more evil, because they’re literally against the citizens that they pretend to be working for. And I think that the whole system will come crashing down, but not without casualties on either side beforehand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s where I think that we are at the moment. What are your thoughts, Monika?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh yes! I’m so glad you brought up the Mossad motto! I mean, when I tell people that, if a country’s motto, or their secret intelligence agency motto, you know, the Mossad, is to deceive, and make war. I mean, what does that say? Shouldn’t the motto be something about upholding justice; or defending our people; or you know, standing up for a Right, No! It’s:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“By way of deception, make war!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like, come on! It’s all right there!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then this thing about jewish identity. The “<em>Holocaust</em>” really is what the jews have, that is their whole identity! I mean, from the day they’re born, there are themselves very indoctrinated in that:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh, we are the persecuted people, and we’ve always been persecuted all through history! ”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>Holocaust</em>” is the big one! And that’s their whole identity! Now without that, what do they have, what do they actually have? I mean, it’s been said that they have nothing without the “<em>Holocaust</em>”. So, that is why it’s such a grave threat to them, to expose the fact that this is all a big lie, a big hoax. And what that makes me think too, is all through history, you know, this persecution, &#8230; I mean, why were they thrown out of all these countries?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #3366ff;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;"> [55:04]</span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well we know that they go in, they undermine, and they infiltrate, and they basically destroy from within. But they become chameleons doing so, and that’s the enemy within, that is so much more dangerous than the enemy at the gate, that come with guns and is very visible.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And you know, about the politicians, I didn’t mention the fact that I, prior to my awakening, to first of all 9/11, and then all these other bigger deceptions. I had run in several elections. I used to be in the Green Party, and I ran in four elections, three of them were federal, one provincial, and you know, I was good friends actually with the leader of the <strong>Green Party of Canada</strong>, her name is <strong>Elizabeth May</strong>. And, you know, she always said she will “<em>speak truth to power</em>” no matter how unpopular it is, or how it might affect anybody. Whatever the Truth is she will always “<em>speak truth to power</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22735" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1009-Green-Party-candidate-with-Elizabeth-May.gif" alt="" width="819" height="554" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I believed her. And I think she was sincere, but since then I think she has become very compromised and I think she has been able to rationalize everything away by this and that, saying:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Oh well now I’m responsible to the membership, and the media is going to jump on me for this, or that, or the other thing.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I have talked with her extensively about 9/11, and she knows that the official story is wrong, but she will not say so publicly now, because she knows that she will be damaged by that. So therefore, of all the politicians in Canada, <strong>Elizabeth May</strong>, I thought that she really would speak truth to power, but she can’t!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-33734" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="865" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Monika-Schaefer-3684-Elizabeth-May-and-the-Green-Party-600x761.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a>[Image] Elizabeth May denounces Monika for her views on 9/11 and the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8221; (click image to enlarge).</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because the “<em>cabal</em>”, who brought us 9/11 and who is lying to us about everything else, and that’s, basically the Rothschilds, the bankers, and that’s the jewish cabal. They control every single politician! So really, every single politician is a puppet! I have found that out firsthand, so I can say that with a great deal of confidence.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because if none of them can address the crime of 9/11, then that means that the people who brought us 9/11 are in power. That is just as direct as it gets! There it is!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Thank you very much. Yeah, we’re coming up to time of the show, though as I said, we can over-run if there’s any topics that you want to address that we haven’t covered, then we can overrun. Otherwise you can give a closing statement. Up to you, whichever you wish to go.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika: </strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, thank you so much again Andrew for having me on. It really is an honor to be on your show. And I just want to say I’m carrying on with a smile on my face. When I go downtown in this little town, I greet people, even if the people who have told me to my face they will not talk to me, or they look the other way, I still greet them by name. And I think that at some point they have to deal with the cognitive dissonance in their brains that say well:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Geez, what’s this friendly person doing? And she’s being called such a hater, and we don’t like what she’s saying.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I’ve also found out that a lot of people in this town who are jewish, who I never even thought, if they’re jewish or not, but they’ve kind of revealed themselves, even before I started talking about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, and somebody says to me:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then I find out, well they’re jewish! And I just can’t understand the logic behind that. Like they can’t look at these things, because they’re jewish. Well isn’t there something wrong with the logic of that? I mean, whether you’re jewish or not, can’t you look at the evidence and the facts?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Anyway, so that’s in this town. I’m carrying on and standing my ground and I’m happy to do so. And I’m also very happy to, &#8230; If I’ve been able to inspire other people elsewhere to talk more about these issues, to educate themselves, to educate others. I think that the more people do come out and publicly state their opinions, not their opinions, their conclusions that they’ve reached after doing the research, the better it is. Because then they will affect others around them and it’s not just one, or two people who have these, have reached these conclusions.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a whole bunch of us really, [laughing] there’s many, many people, and you see that through the Internet, you see it through the comments section, you see it by the hysteria with which the jewish media is trying to silence us. I mean, you see that it is there is an explosive rate of awakening and that gives me great hope!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I’d like to leave it on that note. I think we really are at a good point right now — I think that the light is coming through!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Andrew:</strong> Thank you so much Monika. Great show! Wonderful having you on today. And I’m going to close the show myself, by, &#8230; I just thought of this while Monika was speaking and it’s in my book “<strong><em>Synagogue of Satan: Updated, Expanded and Uncensored</em></strong>”. Again, it’s from 1972. Here you go — it’ll give you something to look up when you’ve finished listening to this:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1972<strong>: </strong>The October twenty-fifth edition of “<strong><em>Psychiatric News</em></strong>” published by the American Psychiatric Association, states:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">Evidence that jews are carriers of schizophrenia, is disclosed in a paper prepared for the <strong><em>American Journal of Psychiatry</em></strong> by <strong>Dr. Arnold A Hutschnecker</strong>, the New York psychiatrist who once treated President Nixon. In a study entitled “<strong><em>Mental Illness, The Jewish Disease</em></strong>” Dr. Hutschnecker said that:</p>
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<p>I’ll leave it there folks, I hope you enjoyed the show. I’ll be back with you all soon, and bye, for now.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of <em><strong>The Realist Report</strong></em>, we’re joined once again by <strong>Alfred Schaefer</strong>, a courageous activist, thinker, and revisionist who has been <a href="http://globalnews.ca/news/3089788/canadian-investigated-in-germany-for-suspected-hate-speech/">persecuted in Germany</a> as a result of his intellectual and political pursuits. In this podcast, we discuss some of Alfred’s recent activities and speaking engagements. We move on to address the persecution of political dissidents and “<i>Holocaust</i>” revisionists throughout Europe, including <a href="http://therealistreport.com/horst-mahler-outlines-jewish-plot-against-white-race-in-final-public-speech/">Horst Mahler</a>, a German revisionist who has fled the country rather than accept yet another prison term, and Ursula Haverbeck, a righteous German woman whose case <a href="http://therealistreport.com/octogenarian-arrested-for-questioning-wwii-history-on-tv/">I detailed in an article published by <i>American Free Press</i></a>. Alfred gives us his take on fake history, the “<i>Holocaust</i>” industry and the anti-White agenda it advances, and President Donald Trump, who is <a href="http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/04/23/trumps-latest-black-pills/">increasingly </a><a href="https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2017/04/25/promises-promises-as-we-approach-100-days-trump-has-dropped-ball-on-refugee-program-reform/">disappointing </a>and <a href="http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/04/23/trump-once-again-betrays-whats-left-of-his-base-this-time-on-illegal-immigration/">outright betraying</a> his supporters. This is one podcast you do not want to miss!</p>
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<p><b>John:</b> OK folks, welcome back to another edition of <strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong> this is your host <strong>John Friend.</strong> The website is The Realist Report dot com where you can find an extensive archive of these podcasts as well as other broadcasts I have appeared on over the years on the website. You also find all of my writings and blog posts, an About section, a contact page, where you can find my personal email address, my Twitter feed, which is embedded on the right hand side bar of the website, and lots of other useful and informative links. I am a regular reporter for <b><i>American Free Press</i></b>, America’s last real newspaper and I also contribute to the <b><i>Barnes Review</i></b>, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with <b><i>American Free Press</i></b>. Both publications are worth subscribing to and I encourage all listeners to do so. Visit <b><i>American Free Press</i></b> dot net and <b><i>Barnes Review</i></b> dot org for more details.<br />
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</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, fine John. Thank you very much for having me back online. We’re going into a very critical time now and thanks for having me on.</span></p>
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</span>John:</b> Yes, of course. It has been a while and I’m glad to have you back. This is something that I’ve been wanting to do for a while and we’re finally able to make it happen. And I should say it’s actually morning if I’m not mistaken where you’re at. It’s evening for me, so I guess I probably should have said, “<i>Good morning Alfred</i>”.</p>
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</span>John:</b> Yeah and thanks for getting up and being a champ and doing this. It probably wouldn’t work out any other way, so I do appreciate that. So anyways, we’ve got a lot to talk about and as I mentioned it has been a while since you’ve been on the program, so what have you been up to? How have you been?</p>
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<p><b>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, we’re working full speed and as you mentioned I’m being persecuted. I had like, &#8230; The police had raided our house here back in August and stolen all of my computer equipment and this, &#8230; It wasn’t that long ago that I finally, we finally got, you know, through the charge basically. And it really looks like they are looking for a face-saving way to back down from these “<i>thought laws</i>” which are completely unsustainable. Because I am the main accused and alongside myself we <strong>Ursula Haverbeck</strong>, which is an iconic figure. We have <strong>Gerhard Ittner</strong> who has served a number of years in prison and was kidnapped from Portugal, brought back to Germany to face charges. And we have <strong>Henry Hafenmayer</strong> who’s working really hard and doing excellent work, you know, with sending information to all the prosecutors and judges and all the different functions in society. So we’ve got a real “<i>dream team</i>” put together here and it really does look like they’re trying to find, somehow, you know, than A-team to sort of take down these laws. That’s how we’re looking at it. And I’m not in any way fearful, or regret that they came. In fact, this is an opportunity. In fact, we are in times right now where people have to understand that these are fantastic opportunities to take down this construct of lies! And that’s what we’re looking at and that’s how we’re taking it.</span></p>
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</span>John:</b> Good! Yeah, that’s a very productive and positive way to look at your situation. Now you had mentioned that, &#8230; So your home was raided. This was back in August of 2016.</p>
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</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, correct.</span></p>
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</span>John:</b> Right and they confiscated a lot of your, you know, computer equipment and whatnot. I imagine other, you know, literature you had at home. I’m not sure you want to get into any more specifics about what they actually confiscated?</p>
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</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah look, their order was to find all, to confiscate all, &#8230; I use the word “<i>steal</i>”, to steal all computer devices and storage devices. So they stole, &#8230; I had a very fine computing equipment, you know, for making the videos and so forth. And they basically cleaned everything out, including an ancient, old computer I had of the closet, you know, they just took everything. They packed it up very nicely, you know. Made a nice inventory list of everything they took. And then it was actually, &#8230; I phoned the, you know, the police about a week after they had come and I told them, I asked him, you know, how long it’s going to be and how long it’s going to take before I get my stuff back? And they said this is going to take at least, you know, at least two months, or so. Of course, now it’s been like half a year’s up. And then I told him, you know, the fact that you’re here has made some waves in the Internet. And they were like, “<i>Where? What? Where do we have to look?”</i> you know, just key in my name and “<i>Holocaust</i>” and you’ll find all kinds of stuff.</span></p>
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</span>So they basically got such blowback from being here that they immediately understood that this was not a very intelligent thing for them to do. And everything since then has played out in our favor. To put us in a position where we really can do permanent major damage to this construction of lies, and criminalizing thoughts. I mean, this is, we call it an inquisition. We don’t call it, you know, we didn’t break any laws. This is an inquisition and when you’re dealing with an inquisition it is a belief system and this is a belief system based on just evil, evil! And so that is what we are facing.</span></p>
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</span>John:</b> Oh yeah, absolutely! Now what prompted this? I mean, what led up to this? What were you, you know, officially charged with? What crime did you commit?</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23370" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg" alt="" width="634" height="559" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada.jpg 634w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Bnai-Brith-Canada-600x529.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px" /></a></span></p>
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</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, this is the wonder. I mean, everything is stacked in our favor. Their reason they came is, because the <strong>B’nai B’rith</strong> in Canada had incited the authorities here to do something about the work I was doing. And the actual work that triggered this was the, “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/"><b><i>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</i></b></a>”. That video. So here we have on the search papers, which they say, “<b><i>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</i></b>”, that wonderful video, my sister Monika, she wrote the script and I just managed the cameras, &#8230; That’s her video basically. And that triggered this raid. And they say that contravenes paragraph “<i>130</i>” which is a paragraph they have about “<i>Holocaust</i>” denying. And now they’re trying to redefine this whole thing as “<i>incitement to hatred</i>”. So I say, please explain the logic to me. An apology to ones mom is incitement to hatred?</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sorry-Mom-2116-Quotation-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23376" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sorry-Mom-2116-Quotation-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="751" height="977" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sorry-Mom-2116-Quotation-Ver-2.jpg 751w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sorry-Mom-2116-Quotation-Ver-2-600x781.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px" /></a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>So they have a real problem now with logical explanations here. And the reason this apology took place is, because we were being incited. I mean, they were inciting against us all of our lives with this ridiculous fantasy of their six million dead jews. I mean, not a single jew was exterminated by the Germans, because he was a jew. It was war-time and there was, &#8230; The communists that were the threat were mostly jews, so the whole thing is, &#8230; They have a problem with how they’ve framed this. So that’s why we’re looking at. The inquisition and the “<b><i>Sorry Mom, I was Wrong about the Holocaust</i></b>”, framing that as an incitement to hatred is a pretty bizarre situation.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> Yeah, exactly! Now, did you actually participate in that video, or did you just help, you know, produce it for Youtube?</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I produced it. I was the producer and, you know, my name is at the end as the producer and that was on my [YouTube] channel. And the interesting thing is that in this accusation that they’ve taken with Ursula Haverbeck and Henry Hafenmayer. If you take the actual scenes that they, you know, they did their, as detectives they had to write down exactly where the charges are what the charge is, and the part with Gerhard Ittner, he did it, &#8230; That was the video, “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/"><strong><i>Dissidents Speaking Out</i></strong></a>”, you know, the dissident speaks out.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22731" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg" alt="" width="606" height="961" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1.jpg 606w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/A-Dissident-Speaking-Out-Gerhard-Ittner-COVER-1-600x951.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 606px) 100vw, 606px" /></a></p>
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</span>And Gerhard Ittner did a wonderful scene where he is explaining how this jew had presented a box of soap in front of the media and said this soap has been extracted from the carcasses of gassed jews and Ittner did a wonderful scene where, what they really should have done with this soap is they should have blown soap bubbles with it. And these soap bubbles would burst which would symbolically, which would have been very symbolic for the lies. These lies would have burst like a soap-bubble. And he did that very nicely on camera and they actually listed this scene as being in contravention to some kind of a law here. So they’re really taking the most, you know, like we’re making a real, just a mockery out of their lies and they’re actually taking that scene and saying this is in contravention to some laws.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>So they’re basically setting themselves up to lose. No judicial system that tries to, that wants to represent, you know, law and order can stand with this kind of ridiculous, you know, if we are guilty, because we are blowing soap bubbles with their soap made out of jews, their fantasy world, you know, nobody can take that seriously any more. So we have authorities now that nobody takes seriously anymore. We are in a situation where the little boy screams out, “<i>Look the Emperor has no clothes</i>” and everybody sees that there are no clothes. The Emperor is stark naked! And suddenly everybody says, “<i>Yeah, the emperor is stark naked!”</i> These lies are over!</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> Yes, they’re very, it’s so childish. I mean, what they tell us and just expect us to blindly believe. Now, I’m curious. So was it German federal authorities, like the federal government that was that’s we are pursuing these charges against you guys?</p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, they sent the <i>Kriminalpolizei</i>, it’s like the FBI, I guess. I don’t want to get into trying to explain exactly how they fit into the, you know, the structures here, because I don’t really know. But these people just take orders from, &#8230; Well, B’nai B’rith in Canada, the jewish secret society that basically, that ordered the German authorities to do this and so they just follow orders. And the people that came and these are people, who were doing their work, they were very professional and I am convinced that they themselves have learned a lot since they came here and this has changed their lives. Because they are following orders, it’s something they are indoctrinated with certain beliefs and what they experienced when they came here was not what they would have expected.</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1915-Tell-the-Truth-Shame-the-Devil.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23386" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1915-Tell-the-Truth-Shame-the-Devil.jpg" alt="" width="682" height="496" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1915-Tell-the-Truth-Shame-the-Devil.jpg 682w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1915-Tell-the-Truth-Shame-the-Devil-600x436.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 682px) 100vw, 682px" /></a></span></span></p>
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</span>They came here, first of all they didn’t come as a big SWAT team as they normally do, which means that they’re not very motivated anymore, but it was at a gentleman and a woman. And they actually told me I could, for this search, I could get my own witness, which is very unusual, you know, it shows that there, &#8230; And by coincidence our neighbors who are very noble people basically, like a Duke, their name is von Luecksberg [sp] . And they had been informed. I had informed them about these lies several months earlier. They knew all about Gerard Menuhin’s book, “<b><i>Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil</i></b>” and they were still there, so I got him and his son, who were both lawyers, and they were the witnesses. And they were extremely professional and obviously siding with me. So, the house was completely cleaned up very nice, very orderly. And so, whatever they were expecting and, you know, they might have expected swastikas all over the walls, or skinheads, or something. I don’t know what they were expecting, but the they saw a household that was very clean, very professional. The witnesses that I happened to get from across the street were very professional, very honorable people, and then they confiscate all my stuff.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Police-Raid-and-my-Confession-3032-Glaring-Hypocrisy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23364" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Police-Raid-and-my-Confession-3032-Glaring-Hypocrisy.jpg" alt="" width="847" height="473" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Police-Raid-and-my-Confession-3032-Glaring-Hypocrisy.jpg 847w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Police-Raid-and-my-Confession-3032-Glaring-Hypocrisy-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Police-Raid-and-my-Confession-3032-Glaring-Hypocrisy-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 847px) 100vw, 847px" /></a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And after that we had all this activity on the internet about them being here. I was on several talk shows, you know, <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/18/glaring-hypocrisy-interview-with-truth-teller-monika-schaefer-transcript/"><b><i>Glaring Hypocrisy</i></b></a> did a nice interview there, where I explained everything, how they came. In fact, I was going to go a little bit on how they came. Normally I’m usually in the shower by six thirty in the morning, but this one morning I was a bit later and I was in the shower at seven o’clock, actually, and I heard the doorbell ringing. And I heard through the door something about <i>Kriminalpolizei</i>, so it just registered immediately what was going on. So I had time to actually prepare psychologically for what was happening. So I came out and I came out completely stark naked! Stood there and there’s this huge guy standing there and I say, “<i>Is there something you are looking for at this hour in my house?”</i>, because I knew that if I came out stark naked, stand there and just ask him what is he looking for in this house, it’s a sort of symbolic thing. I have got nothing to hide and I am not afraid of you!<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>So tell me what you want and, you know, let’s see if we can find it. So he says, without even flinching, he said, “<i>Well, you can get dressed</i>”. And he never let me out of his sight. And then, basically we went through the whole procedure here. Before we actually started this search they allowed me to get my own witness, which was fantastic, because like I said before I got these honorable people from across the street. And then the thing sort of unfolded. And they, you know, went through everything basically, packaged everything that they thought was a storage device, or a computer.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> All for a video that you produced on You Tube! How absurd is this! I mean, that’s the thing, average people got to be questioning this! What do people say in Germany? I mean, you know, it speaking of, &#8230; Let me just actually mention this. I was down in Mexico recently and I ended up meeting quite a few Germans and most of them, frankly, didn’t even know that it was illegal to question the “<i>Holocaust</i>”. They don’t really like, at least the ones that I was talking to weren’t really aware of these issues at all. They didn’t really think about it. I mean, I don’t know how they couldn’t of, but, &#8230; That was my, and again this is just a few people that I met from Germany, but what’s your take? I mean, are people kind of waking up to this?</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, what they do you see, they do these things and they do not talk at all about it, except like they tried like, the media, the jewish media, for example, with Urulsa Haverbeck. In over and over again, when she was going through her various trials, it would always big headlines, “<i>Nazi oma [grandmother] goes to jail!”</i> and all of that kind of stuff. So they’d be screaming these things out there, which weren’t even true. Like there be a trial for her, for example, and then they would, in the first instance, you know, the judge who is usually a jew, I guess, would say, “<i>OK, go to jail</i>”. But then she goes into revision and she doesn’t go to jail and she’s being treated very nicely by the people who understand.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And so, you’ve got these people who are in control of the media who are driving a certain narrative, trying to keep people in fear, or they don’t talk about it at all. So the only message people’s get once in a while are, you know, neo-Nazi, right-wing extremist has to go to jail, whether it’s true, or not, is beside the point. And they don’t ever get to understand what’s actually going on. It’s completely censored out of the public realm. And that’s with everything. Like, there’s no mention in any newspaper, or anything that they have raided me, so we have to bring this message out in our own networks, because in the jewish controlled media, of course, they get a single narrative and that’s what they want to, you know, push on the people. They want to keep the people in fear and ignorance.</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> Right! Yeah. And they can’t really present you, or Ursula Haverbeck, or any of these other people as like, these crazy deranged, you know, Nazis, or something like that. It’s, you know, far from it. You guys are very professional, good-looking people, you know, very scholarly.</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I’ll tell you what I did at Christmas time, for example, since I’m not hearing anything back from them. But I also kept sending the police department my latest productions, my newest video and I’ll send them a DVD with all kinds of additional information and recommendations of what they can learn. And then I actually, at Christmas time, I sent them a Christmas card with a long letter and I thanked them for coming. Because I told them that until they came my, &#8230; I was getting a bit nervous and worried that maybe somebody from Antifa, one of these left-wing crazies, communists, would come and, you know, break into the house and destroy all my stuff. And ever since they took all my stuff and this is, you know, known throughout the Internet, that these fears have been reduced and I can sleep very soundly. And also I told them and I broadcast into the Internet, that the police are diligently learning from what they had taken, because what they had taken really was what they needed, almost like a medicine to fight their own suffering from this psychological warfare, or their own induced mental illness.</span></p>
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</span>When you believe these lies and you still react to all these words that trigger the programs that have been pumped into our minds, that’s an induced mental illness. And what they took from my desk, the coincidences were just almost too good to be true!<br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
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</span>I had been in London a month before and spoke at the <b><i>London Forum</i></b>. And the subject of my talk was, “<a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/07/23/london-forum-alfred-schaefer-psychological-warfare-transcript/"><b><i>Psychological Warfare</i></b></a>”. And I had all these papers and my speech. All that information that is relevant to the subject on my desk. Plus I had this display case with different quotations from different rabbis going, you know, back hundreds of years. They took all that they photographed all that. They took it. They really have almost like a university course of how, or what this psychological warfare is. They took and their job was to study it and learn it. To make sure that they’re doing that, that’s what I broadcast out on all of messages.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21343" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="646" height="1029" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER.jpg 646w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-188x300.jpg 188w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-COVER-643x1024.jpg 643w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 646px) 100vw, 646px" /></a></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>That the police are learning, they are, you know, they’re cleansing their brains from this stuff and now we’ve got the charges that’s exactly what it looks like. They have set this up, they want the A-Team to take down this ridiculous construct of “<i>thought laws</i>”. And that’s how we’re looking at it, that’s how we’re taking it.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If we fail then I say, “<i>good luck</i>” for whoever comes after us. But right now, we are really set up, we are in the poll position basically to take these laws down, or give it a major blow for which they will not recover very quickly! And that is fantastic to be in that position.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> Yes. Now are you guys all kind of working together in this? I mean, each one of you were charged separately I’m assuming. Are you fighting this together?</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. We are fighting together. We have got and we are all learning, we are all growing together, we are growing and gaining strength basically, day by day. And the other side is, &#8230; If you just watch what’s going on now with Trump in the US and what’s happening in Israel, they are in full panic mode and they know their lies are over and that’s why they’re really desperate now to get us into basically a World War Three, before too many people wake up, but they cannot!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>The more they, &#8230; Like this is now going into an extremely unstable situation that we’re in right now. And it’s not going to go back to anything stable anymore. These lies are coming down! The jewish construction of lies is coming down. The financial system is coming down. This is basically a war of lies and criminality against honest working people and that is unsustainable. That’s what we’re at right now. And that’s why our very survival depends on us getting our heads functioning again! Becoming immune to the trigger words. These control words that result in ridiculous emotional outbursts that are just straight out of an insane asylum!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>We are basically, &#8230; It’s almost like our brains are, &#8230; The brain of our society is very, very, almost terminally ill. But maybe we have to fall with their face in the mud to understand and then get up and clean and shake ourselves and then we can fight again. Because right now, when you have our men confused about which gender they are and more concerned about the feelings of some transvestite, than they are about protecting their women from the invaders, we have a serious problem! We haven’t had this in our history, in our European history. It’s a first!</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John:</b> Yes! I completely agree with you! And I want to talk more about this aspect of World War Two and especially the fake “<i>Holocaust</i>” story. How it really is a pys-op, it’s an ongoing psychological warfare operation being waged specifically against Germans, but really the entire White Western world. And I know that’s something that you’ve spent a lot of time thinking about and discussing and writing about. So, I want to talk more about that.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23377" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="826" height="1281" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER.jpg 826w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-600x931.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-660x1024.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-Speech-Before-Returning-to-Prison-COVER-768x1191.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 826px) 100vw, 826px" /></a></span></p>
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</span>Real quick, I’ve got to ask you, I just put a video up, I guess it was maybe close to two weeks ago, it was on April sixteenth, of <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/04/20/horst-mahler-speech-before-returning-to-prison-transcript/"><strong>Horst Mahler</strong></a>. He is another German dissident that has faced all sorts of legal, you know, legal problems, legal issues. He’s been in prison for a number of years, from what I understand. And he gave a speech on April nineteenth apparently, his last public appearance before returning to prison. And he basically outlines the jewish plot against the White race in this final public speech. And I posted this up on my website. Have you seen this video and do you know, anything about Horst Mahler? From what I understand he may have fled Germany rather than go back to prison. Is that correct?</p>
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</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes, that’s correct. And I was actually there when we recorded that meeting when that took place. And what he is doing is very, very important. I see people are coming to the same conclusion independently of one another and what he’s trying to do and that’s what we have to do, we have to scandalize this judaism, this <b><i>Talmudic</i></b> judaism. And keep telling people, remind them that these rabbis, who are basically the law givers at the top, they are allowed to, in fact, they are encouraged to rape our three-year old girls! Well, three years and one day old! That’s how old they have to be.<br />
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</span>And yet these rabbis themselves have been traumatized at the age of eight days when some other hairy rabbi had chewed off their foreskin. I mean, this is grotesque, this is so just awful. So, these people learn that through these horrible, barbaric animal behavior that they are living themselves, they learn and have it inculcated in their minds there is no empathy in the host populations where they, because they are the parasite.</span></p>
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</span>If you are the law giver of these people and you can rape our three-year old girls, you’re not going to ever be on friendly terms with us, you know, that if these people find out who you are and what you are, they will kill you. And this establishes this hatred. They have a wall of hatred between themselves and the host population. Basically everything is turned around, they turn everything on it’s head and then they put themselves, elevate themselves in our minds through these lies as the “<em>chosen people</em>”. They are the devil! They are satanic! And that’s what <a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/04/26/horst-mahler-we-are-fighting-to-win-transcript/">Horst Mahler is emphazing</a>.</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-We-are-Fighting-to-Win-—-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23380" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-We-are-Fighting-to-Win-—-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="675" height="1034" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-We-are-Fighting-to-Win-—-COVER.jpg 675w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-We-are-Fighting-to-Win-—-COVER-600x919.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Horst-Mahler-We-are-Fighting-to-Win-—-COVER-668x1024.jpg 668w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 675px) 100vw, 675px" /></a></span></span></p>
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</span>More and more people on the Internet, on their information they’re putting out have come to the same conclusion. They are beginning to understand that. And that is the end of their rule over us! That is the reason why, when the jews had ruled the Soviet Union, under the guise of communism, they would kill anybody who knew of these things, or spoke of these things.</span></p>
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</span>And yet, here I am speaking with you openly, talking about this. They have, you know, sure the police were here, they confiscated all my stuff. But hey, we’re talking about this openly and everybody who listens to this has probably heard it not for the first time, maybe for the tenth time, or whatever. And if they hear it for the first time they’ll be shocked and they’ll say that can’t be! But you’re going to keep hearing it over and over again! We’re not making this up.</span></p>
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</span>This is in their holy books, the <em><strong>Talmud</strong></em>. You’ve got to understand the <b><i>Talmud</i></b>! Where these people are coming from. And they’ve been doing this for thousands of years. And where they have succeeded they really, truly exterminate the people and even the memory of them. So right now that is what we’re seeing, is that they know that they have to exterminate the White people. Because, if the White people figure out what’s going on they will probably seek revenge, which is the normal response, a normal reaction.</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23366" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg" alt="" width="721" height="339" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote.jpg 721w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alan-Sabrosky-911-israel-quote-600x282.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px" /></a></span></span></p>
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</span>And this is like <strong>Alan Sabrosky</strong>* said, “<i>An all, or nothing exercise</i>”. In an, “<i>all, or nothing exercise</i>” there’s not much room for compromise. And that’s the situation we have. Like, we didn’t invent this, we’re not, you know, this isn’t a Hollywood film, this is the reality that we are faced with.</span></p>
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</span>[* Dr. Alan Sabrosky:9/11 an Israeli Mossad operation. “<i>I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11 itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated operation. But Mossad did not do it alone.</i>”]<i></i></span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21557" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="656" height="1040" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER.jpg 656w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-189x300.jpg 189w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-16th-Anniversary-COVER-646x1024.jpg 646w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 656px) 100vw, 656px" /></a></span></i></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911-the-16th-anniversary-2017/">Organized Jewry Did 9/11</a></p>
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</span>John: </b>Indeed, yes. And Horst Mahler does a very good job of explaining that’s all and he talks about just how truly evil and depraved jews are, like the jewish religion, what the <b><i>Talmud</i></b> says, as you mentioned. It’s just incredible and most people don’t know these things, which is very sad.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Rabbi-sucking-penis-of-circumcised-baby.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23374" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Rabbi-sucking-penis-of-circumcised-baby.jpg" alt="" width="743" height="545" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Rabbi-sucking-penis-of-circumcised-baby.jpg 743w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Rabbi-sucking-penis-of-circumcised-baby-600x440.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 743px) 100vw, 743px" /></a></p>
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</span>What’s really amazing to me is that jewish news outlets and like jewish journalism, jewish writers, they often, you know, openly talk about these things and report on them. For instance, this whole, you know, ritual circumcision that they do? This disgusting, depraved practice, where literally a rabbi is sucking, you know, the blood off of a baby’s penis after it’s been circumcised. It’s so sick! And so, your mind couldn’t even fathom, you know, someone doing this. And yet this is a practice that these Orthodox jews do. And in many cases the rabbi is giving the baby herpes! You know, that’s how sick this is!<br />
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</span>Here’s an article in the <b><i>Jewish Telegraph Agency</i></b>, one of the most, you know, prominent and well established jewish news outlets that goes back to the early 1800s, I think, or maybe even before that. The headline here is, “<i><a href="http://www.jta.org/2017/04/19/news-opinion/united-states/orthodox-families-wont-identify-circumcisers-who-gave-babies-herpes-nyc-health-spokesman-says">Orthodox families won’t identify the circumcisers who gave their babies herpes!</a>” </i>So the jews, they protect them! I mean, they protect these disgusting, you know, herpes spreading rabbis, rather than give them up to the authorities!</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-JTA-gave-babies-herpes.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23365" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-JTA-gave-babies-herpes.jpg" alt="" width="915" height="985" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-JTA-gave-babies-herpes.jpg 915w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-JTA-gave-babies-herpes-600x646.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-JTA-gave-babies-herpes-768x827.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 915px) 100vw, 915px" /></a></span><span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>So I mean, my point is if you just follow jewish, you know, media, the jewish open, you know, explicitly jewish media outlets you will learn all these things. All these bizarre things about jews and just recognize how truly alien they are! How, I mean, outright evil, I would argue, they are. And, you know, you could really kind of make sense of the world around us but, you know, people just don’t get this news. They don’t get this perspective, they don’t get this information.</p>
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s the whole thing, is that the jews through their, &#8230; It’s a parasite. The behavior is completely, totally, parasitic and it’s delusional for a parasite to think that it can kill the host and then still survive. Now they could do that in the past where they would basically completely exterminate certain tribes of people, because there was other tribes that they could sort of slither out and occupy. But now, because this is global, they would have to find another planet essentially. And that’s it, it’s end of the line.</span></p>
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</span>In fact, when Horst Mahler was in prison, where he had lots of time to write, so he wrote a book* and it’s called, in German, “<a href="https://archive.org/details/DasEndeDerWanderschaftHorstMahler07.01.2013"><b><i>Das Ende der Wanderschaft</i></b></a>” which means, “<b><i>End of their Roaming</i></b>” and basically they hit the end of the road with that. Because as long as they could roam, let’s just say, consider yourself a parasite. Now you eat your way through one animal and you, you know, it’s dead, so you go on to the next one.</span></p>
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</span>[* <b><i>Das Ende der Wanderschaft – Gedanken über Gilad Atzmon you need die Judenheit</i></b> (2013) (<b><i>The End of the Wanderings – Reflections on Gilad Atzmon and Jewry</i></b>) ]</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Book-Das-Ende-der-Wanderschaft.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23371" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Book-Das-Ende-der-Wanderschaft.jpg" alt="" width="654" height="314" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Book-Das-Ende-der-Wanderschaft.jpg 654w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Book-Das-Ende-der-Wanderschaft-600x288.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px" /></a></span></p>
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</span>Well now, they have, with the state of Israel, which was like a home base where they could always, you know, the criminals could go there and they wouldn’t have to fear extradition, as Israel has no extradition agreements with any other countries. And they could just take criminality to new levels, which even surpassed the old levels. And then they wanted from this home, this base basically, to dominate the world. Well, that’s not going to work. Everybody! Every single race on this planet is now remembering what this parasite has done to them in the past and it’s not a good time to be a jew anymore.</span></p>
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</span>Like I said in my last video, I said to the jews, “<i>Give up!</i>” You know, come out with a white flag, because the game truly is over! You really, as a jew, you have to kill us all and then what? You think the that the people of the Third World are going to, &#8230; How are you going to suck anything out of them to support your extravagant lifestyle? You can’t! And you think the Chinese are going to put up with this? No! The game truly is over.</span></p>
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</span>Right now, it’s like when Adolf Hitler understood it clearly, the jew has an utter hatred for the Aryan people, because the Aryan people were the last to stand in their way to world domination. Well that happens to be us! They want to overcome us, so that nobody else can, and that’s in their delusional mind, they think they can rule the world. Well that’s just the fantasy of the same people who are, you know, sucking the penises of eight-day old boys and raping three-year old girls! They’re pretty wild fantasies. And if those are our rulers and if they are capable of exterminating us, then we deserve to be exterminated!</span></p>
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</span>Right now, when I see how many of our, you know, our folk are more concerned about the feelings of some faggots and transvestites than they aren’t protecting their women, the jew has come a long ways in demoralizing us, ready to be slaughtered.</span></p>
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</span>John: </b>Yes indeed. Well, I’m curious. I mean, I’ve argued in the past and I continue to argue that the whole, you know, White genocide agenda. Whether it’s massive non-White immigration into America, into Europe, whether it’s, you know, White guilt, the demonization of Whites and how we’re blamed for everything wrong.<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>I think a lot of this goes back to the official narrative, the official jewish narrative explaining World War Two. The official narrative of the alleged holocaust of six million jews by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. I mean, I think a lot of this all goes back to this fake story, this paradigm of our history which has been institutionalized. Not only by our schools by our government, but also via our culture, through Hollywood. Through these various, you know, books dealing with the Holocaust, you know, their memoirs and all the fiction stories they’ve written about the “<i>Holocaust</i>”. So, I mean, what’s your take on that? I think this is a topic that we’ve sort of discussed in the past, but what’s your take on what I just said?</p>
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, I’m glad you brought that up John, because that’s a one of the most important parts of the psychological warfare. They learned that by inculcating guilt into a people, it makes them defenseless for their own subversion and extermination in the end. They learned that if you can inculcate this guilt into the Germans, as they have done with their fake “<i>Holocaust</i>”, they could actually exterminate the German. The Germans, I mean, millions of Germans were genocided in what they call World War Two. It was a genocidal attack on the Germans.</span></p>
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</span>And they learned that not only can they take the first real bite out of the Germanic people, which is the heart of Europe! The Germans were the heart of Europe! And they actually manipulated the other Europeans to do this dirty work for them. And this was such a successful business model, that afterwards these traumatized Germans had been. Indoctrinated with lies to the point where they were now giving these jews, the parasites, they were giving them submarines, giving them money without end and the grovelling underneath! This worked very well and they did it, because once you, if you are believing you’re guilty of something, then you are in his position of submission!</span></p>
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</span>And now they learned:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>OK, how do we get the rest of, &#8230; Now that we took a big chunk out of the Germans, we can do away with all the rest of the Aryan people, all the Europeans, we have to make them feel guilty.</i>”</span></p>
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</span>At the same time that you make them feel guilty you slowly indoctrinate those who are supposed to do the dirty work of killing the White people. You make them feel hatred, or vengeful. So that’s the reason why they aren’t now inculcating all the White people to feel guilty about slavery, about this, about that. And if there’s nothing they can make them feel guilty about, they just tell them they are “<i>boring</i>”. That is what they have done with Sweden. They have told the Swedes that they are such “<i>boring people</i>”, they need multiculturalism. They’ve done that with the Canadians, too. The Canadians were always being told:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, you guys are so boring so you need some multiculturalism and it’s more exciting to have multiculturalism!”</i></span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And it’s true, because when you get raped for walking the streets at night, it’s more exciting than if you can go outside and not get raped, or murdered! So, it’s true gets! It gets more exciting.</span></p>
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</span>John: </b>Right. Well I mean, the very idea of having a White racial identity has been delegitimized and discredited by this fake story that they’ve told us. You know, if you’re a racially conscious White person, you’re immediately going to be called a Nazi! You’re going to be called a racist! You’re going to be called a White supremacist! And, of course, these are all, you know, truly weaponized terms that the left and the political establishment and the jews have used to attack us psychologically and emotionally. And it’s been very effective. This might be another question that you could address. What is the best way to, you know, to sort of deal with being called a Nazi, for example? What I’ve sort of been doing lately is just kind of embracing it, and laughing about it, and accepting it, and just, you know, saying:</p>
<p>“<i>Hey! Look these stupid words are not going to impact me in the slightest! You can call me a Nazi, you can call me an anti-semite, you can call me a racist! I don’t care!”</i></p>
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Good! John, perfect! I’m so glad you brought that up. That is exactly, &#8230; How do we deal with this exactly? Now if somebody calls me a Nazi, or somebody calls me a “<i>Holocaust</i>” denier, I just say that you said Alfred you’re a “<i>Holocaust</i>” denier. My response is:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, I am ever relieved that you do not mistake me for someone who still believes these pathetic jewish fantasy lies!”</i></span></p>
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</span>And if somebody calls me a racist, I would say:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>You know, I’m a little bit surprised that you would still be using one of these weaponized words that are designed to make us feel guilty. I thought you knew better!”</i></span></p>
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</span>I mean, everybody’s waking up. What I do there is if somebody accuses you of something like that and you start justifying yourself, or explaining yourself, then you are in a position of submission, which is what this word is designed to put you in. It is designed to put you in a position of submission! But if you take this ball and serve it back, like you would serve a tennis ball back into the opposite court and fire it back as hard as you can, then that word, then you are using this like martial arts, judo, or something. You take the force of this word and fire it back to it’s source. And you fire it back and say:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>I’m in a bit surprised that you at this time, 2017, would still be using that word</i>! <em><span class="Apple-style-span">I mean, people are waking up. The word &#8220;racist&#8221; is designed to prepare us for our own slaughter! Don’t you see what’s going on?</span></em>”</span></p>
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</span>That’s how you have to deal with these words. Fire it back to it’s source and express your disdain and surprise at the person using that word, is actually still using it when everybody else who has a brain in their head is waking up to it. And believe me, these words, the people are waking up! And now in this time when we still have, &#8230; If someone lives in an area where they’re just surrounded by the zombies who still fall for that stuff, they have to see that as a golden opportunity to turn these people back on their feet!</span></p>
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</span>Its sort of like if you walk into a field and there’s all these big gold nuggets laying around and nobody else seems to notice, hey, that’s your opportunity. Because everybody, everybody will remember who brought them out of this sick condition.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>You have to look at these people who are still reacting to these words as being sick. They are ill. It’s like if you were normally a healthy runner and you have two broken legs and casts on your leg, you couldn’t run, you can even walk. But it doesn’t mean you’re not a good runner. It just means that you are in a condition of illness, you are sick. And all these people who still respond to these words, which are all artificial, fake words, that have been injected into our minds, they are suffering from this induced mental illness and they need to be healed. And like Yuri Getnaov [sp] who understood this very well, who was a defector who came to the US and warned of the communism back in the Soviet Union. He says that people who are suffering from this induced mental illness, they are completely impervious to facts and so forth. You can shower them with facts and there’s no response. It’s because of this illness. And we have to see how we can reach them. And the first thing is to do deconstruct these weaponized control words by simply explaining to people what they actually are. And if they get that input, again and again, they can be healed! And these people that come out of that condition are often the best fighters against that system, once they’ve been healed!</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>Yes indeed. I think that’s a very good way of handling it and I totally agree with everything you just said. It really is amazing how truly powerful and effective, you know, just the simple, stupid words have been!<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>One question that I’ve had for you is, &#8230; I think if you look at the fake “<i>Holocaust</i>” narrative and, you know, World War Two more generally, I guess, I think it is very accurate to say that it is an ongoing psychological warfare operation designed specifically to target Germans, but really to the White world in general. Could you sort of articulate, how is this carried out? I mean, how does it impact people so deeply?</p>
<p><b><br />
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah, &#8230;</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>I have a couple of ideas myself, but I want to hear you say.</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred:</b> <span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s a very slow process, you know. It’s a very slow process and that’s why if you look at what the jews are propagating, what their goal is, what they want to do if we let them. If we let them they’ll do it. And that will finish us off. They want to bring in “<i>Holocaust</i>” awareness into the kindergartens at younger, younger ages! Now when our people could never ever imagine that if everybody is telling them a certain story in a kindergarten, no child in kindergarten is going to understand that this is all lies, so they believe it. And if everybody believes it at the same time they start to condition people never to step out of line.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And what they did to finish off Germany is they, &#8230; Jews had much more influence in the other countries, like in France and Britain and so forth, and they had conditioned them to feel good about attacking Germany. And then to keep them happy about doing it after they, &#8230; Germany was the heart of Europe, like we are brothers, I mean, if somebody from England, or France, I mean these are our brothers and sisters, we are the same people like the same family. And yet the jews had managed to get us to kill each other! In fact we were killing the best of our people, so we actually brought down the quality of our genetic, our DNA, as a people!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And to keep the people who were conned into doing this horrible crime against the Germans happy, they were able to participate in the spoils, afterward. So Germany was plundered. So the same thing, the same business model, is being applied now to all the White people. I mean, those invaders from Somalia, or, you know, the Third World, the sludge from the Third World, &#8230; I mean, these countries are emptying their prisons, sending these people to White countries. These people are participating in the spoils. And then you have the jews in our countries and they are taking the money they’ve stolen from us and putting these invaders, pushing them through our social systems, pushing into our schools and so forth. I mean, they are getting a free lunch at our expense!</span></p>
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</span>And we are too busy, or we are too stupid, or too weak, too sick to understand what’s going on. And we’ll get eaten to the bone and once we are eaten to the bone, they’ll just finish us off! It’s the end of the White race!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>But the sludge that is replacing us will not be a happy lot. We will be the better ones off because will be dead! Because the life will be a living hell if they succeed.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>This is a life and death struggle and once we understand, that once our people who are all still suffering from this induced mental illness, understand that life truly is more than just fun and games and has a purpose, namely to survive! Once they understand that, their life has a purpose again. You have a mission! It is just to survive with proper values, you know, with dignity and be proud of who you are. Don’t be ashamed! But if you’re believing all this crap about the holohoax and slavery and all the stuff, &#8230; Slavery was a jewish business, not a European business. It was a Jewish business. So, if we fall for that, well, you know, we deserve to be exterminated, because we’re too stupid to survive! I mean, that’s the bottom line!</span></p>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>Yeah, that is certainly true. But, I think it’s important understand really just what your average person is up against. I mean, this warfare, this psychological and emotional warfare operation being waged against us, &#8230; Is, you know, being scientifically implemented essentially.</p>
<p><b><br />
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>I mean, they know what they’re doing, they know how to exploit us emotionally, psychologically, you know, their ways that they’ve studied and perfected. And what they’re doing is it is very effective, people have a very hard time dealing with these subjects critically and there’s three, you know, major factors that I’ve kind of focused on, or identified. And especially as it relates to the “<i>Holocaust</i>”.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23373" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA-.jpg" alt="" width="1397" height="969" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA-.jpg 1397w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA--600x416.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA--1024x710.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Map-of-Holohoax-Museums-USA--768x533.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1397px) 100vw, 1397px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Location of Holohoax Museums in the USA (Click image to enlarge)</span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And the first one is how it’s always repeated. You always hear about the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;! The repetition itself is very powerful and effective in implementing this psychological warfare operation. Think about, I mean, in school you hear about it all the time. You see it in our movies, you see in Hollywood, you see in our culture, you see in all these all the “<i>Holocaust</i>” Memorial Museums, which is essentially an industry that the jews have created with this fake story. And you most certainly see this institutionalized by our government! Certainly by the United States Federal government and probably every other Western nation. I mean, not probably, most certainly, every other Western nation! It’s the same story no matter where you go.</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>You know, they have this fake narrative institutionalized by the government and you’re not allowed to question it. And see, that’s another aspect of it. That the holocaust story really is never explained properly. It’s never explained in context of what was really going on. It’s just presented as this truly horrific story that no one is supposed to question! But everyone is supposed to believe, just blindly believe and accept it. You don’t need any evidence, or proof, you know, you’re just supposed to accept it. It’s, you know, like the ultimate taboo in our society to even question this narrative.<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alexander-Trachtenberg-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23367" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alexander-Trachtenberg-quote.jpg" alt="" width="741" height="456" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alexander-Trachtenberg-quote.jpg 741w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Realist-Report-Interviews-Alfred-Schaefer-Alexander-Trachtenberg-quote-600x369.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 741px) 100vw, 741px" /></a></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s the whole thing, it’s a religion, but it’s a religion of what I call, “<i>The religion of the devil</i>”, because they are using this to carry out their agenda, which is at our expense. I will read you a little quotation here from one of these jews. His name was <strong>Alexander Trachtenberg</strong>. He lived from 1885 to 1966. And this is what he said in 1944.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>He said:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>When we get ready to take the United States we will not take you under the label of Communism, we will not take you under the label of Socialism. These labels are unpleasant to the American people and have been &#8216;</i><i>speared&#8217;</i><i> too much. We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable! We will take it under &#8216;</i><i>Liberalism&#8217;</i><i>, under &#8216;</i><i>Progressivism&#8217;</i><i>, under &#8216;</i><i>Democracy&#8217;</i><i>. But take it we will!”</i></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And that was like I said, a quote from Alexandria Trachtenberg in 1944 at the Communist Party’s Madison, at the <strong>National Convention of Communist Parties</strong> in Madison Square Garden in 1944. So you see, how far they have come with their agenda. And now this holohoax, this ridiculous fantasy, jewish fantasy, that we are they’re supposed to throw us onto our knees, accepting all these invaders.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>I think they are themselves quite surprised at their success, which was due to the technological revolution which, of course, in television and radio and the magazines, the printed media, which they completely took control of that, and would not tolerate anybody else controlling any of that, because they knew that through these medians they can control our minds. And that is why now in the digital age, that is why you get people, like it’s always jews that took over all the Internet technology. Not because they invented it, or anything, but because they used every trick in the book to steal it and get control of it basically. Because they knew the importance of it, where we were just too naive and didn’t understand what was going on.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1911-Brainwashing-via-media.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23385" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1911-Brainwashing-via-media.jpg" alt="" width="632" height="577" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1911-Brainwashing-via-media.jpg 632w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-1911-Brainwashing-via-media-600x548.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span class="Apple-style-span"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But this technology is not something they can really control. Now they’re trying to, like you said before, teaching us the “<i>Holocaust</i>” narrative in the schools and everywhere. And yet, all these things that they are putting, all these monuments and so forth, these will be the first things that will just be torn to shreds! And they will not have enough people to protect them! Because when we get a critical number who understand that, well if you can’t get the parasite himself, you get the monuments, what represents them. Whatever landmarks you have, they will all get torn down and stomped on! Not one of these “<i>Holocaust</i>” things will survive.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>And the further they push this, trying to make their laws more draconian, you know, with the death penalty for anti-semitism — which is what they’ll do if they can, they’ve done it before. The further they drive this the more, it’s like putting another, you know, wrapping a pressure cooker with scotch tape, or something and putting a flame underneath it. You’re not going to prevent that explosion from happening. And when this, the truth which is growing under the surface, growing and growing, when that erupts, it will sweep everything that was stood in it’s way! It will sweep it away! Need everybody now at this point in time, 2017, will have the opportunity to explain what they did, or did not do, to keep the lies under cover, or to help the lies come out!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23384" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="671" height="659" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2.jpg 671w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Sorry-Mom-Wyatt-Mann-What-Did-Johnny-Learn-in-School-Today-ver-2-600x589.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 671px) 100vw, 671px" /></a></span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span></b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Everybody will be measured on what they did. And it’s nice to know that lists are now being generated everywhere of teachers, for example, teaching this “<i>Holocaust</i>” bullshit. These teachers will have some explaining to do! And that day is coming closer, every single day! So that everybody who listens to this should understand, this is a responsibility, we have to start becoming responsible for what’s going on around us. And if somebody thinks they don’t have to and will just go with the flow, that’s going to be a bad situation to be in, because the flow is turning, the wind is changing, the truth is coming out. And nothing can stop the truth now!</span></p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>John: </b>Yes sir! I love it Alfred! I love your optimism! You’re so spot on and that’s exactly what is going to have to happen if we’re ever going to get this stuff under control and have a proper understanding of our history.<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Very well said! I appreciate hearing that. It’s uplifting. Because sometimes it can be kind of depressing and especially in your situation. Geez, after how much you’ve gone through, to have that sort of attitude, I really just admire you. Go ahead if you wanted to comment. I want to bring up one other aspect of the fake “<i>Holocaust</i>”.</p>
<p><b><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Just while you are on that point. You’re saying you like the way I present that. I’ll tell you one thing, that when, people notice it everywhere, that when you come out of this matrix of lies, it’s like a rebirth and you find a new energy that you didn’t even know you had! When you are living in a world of labels and guilt and so forth, you’re just listless and there’s no purpose and you have no energy. You don’t even know you’re just existing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>But, once you understand who you are and what is going on, then you can understand why our forefathers accomplished what they accomplished! Because they did not have to struggle under this “<i>lead blanket</i>” of lies and forbidden thoughts. This construction of lies where some fucking jews are telling you, you know, to get on your knees, because of some phony “<i>Holocaust</i>”. I mean, honest to God, I have, in fact, when you spend, let’s say a week, with people who are awakened, who are informed and then you go back and go into a crowd of people who are zombies, it’s like being with a bunch of little tiny children! Completely helpless, little hopeless children. And you say how can these children, these little kids, who believe these lies, they have no hope for surviving what’s coming if they don’t get out of that condition.<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span"><br />
</span>It really is set up for a collapse for total failure that’s why you see the people who have come out and understand this, they’ll generally have a lot more energy than the zombies who are trying to keep them down. In fact, the zombies, they always come in crowds. They can only move in a herd, a big pack.</span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1008-Main-Street-Jasper.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-23383" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Monika-Schaefer-Interview-1008-Main-Street-Jasper.gif" alt="" width="803" height="600" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">A main street of Jasper, Alberta, Canada.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
Look at what happening to Monika [Alfred’s sister] in the town she lives in, Jasper [Alberta, Canada] . The people are attacking her, but like as a complete and total cowards! In a town like Jasper is there not a single man with a brain and balls! ? No! They’re all, “<i>Oh! She’s a Nazi!” </i>it’s so pathetic! I’ll give you a little scene that she went through recently. She was walking down the sidewalk and a car pulled up, you know, a bunch of young guys, White guys, European guys, you know, eighteen years old, or something. They roll down the windows and scream at her:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, you Nazi!</i>”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
And I said [to her]:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Don’t they understand that when Monika is doing is to help these people? It’s for people these people so that they have a future</i>.”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
But they are so sick with these lies that they actually attack her!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
And that’s what the jews have always said. They said:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>We will get the goy to become agents of their own destruction!</i>”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
And that’s a perfect example of that. When my sister Monika is being attacked by her folk, fellow people, because they are sick and they’ve been conditioned like laboratory rats to do that, and they do that. Then you can see the jewish plan playing out, where they said and openly stated in the <b><i>Protocols</i></b> and everywhere else, that:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>They will be agents of their own destruction!</i>”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
And that’s what we’re seeing right now throughout our societies.</span></p>
<p><b><br />
John: </b>Yes. Yeah and we’ve been seeing that for a very long time. It’s kind of a theme of our history.<br />
You know, what one thing I wanted to bring up and this is again is another point that I’ve kind of tried to emphasize and make on my website and the podcasts that I do, is all of the propaganda relating to the fake “<i>Holocaust</i>” narrative, whether it’s the Hollywood movies, or the books you read in school, or, you know, the documentaries, it’s all very emotional and very traumatizing! You see all these, you know, horrific photographs of dead bodies. You hear, you know, the quote, unquote “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivor. You hear their testimony, and what they allegedly went through. How they lost all their family. They lost their sister, their uncle, their mother, etcetera. It goes on and on and on, and nine times out of ten they’re totally fake stories, or somehow otherwise embellished. What’s your take on this aspect? Because this to me is why people have such a hard time questioning it, is because they’ve been traumatized by all of this propaganda.</p>
<p><b><br />
Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. What the Jews have learned a long time ago, is that if you can take a picture and the pictures are true, but what they say about the pictures is not true. They will take pictures of the people that were slaughtered by the jews themselves, like the Bolsheviks, or like in Eastern Europe, were you take a Holodomor in Ukraine, or something, where millions of people starved to death. So, that resulted in having huge piles and piles of bodies, you know, depending on the circumstances, situation. So you take these pictures and then you write underneath them, oh:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>These are all jews that the Germans killed, the Nazis killed!”</i></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
So, people see the picture and they read what it says below and they think that. Just look at 9/11. They show us pictures of, you know, two towers coming down, which they did, they came down, and they tell us that these were Arabs with carpet knives.</span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2366-WTC-1-North-tower-being-blown-apart-aerial-shot.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21566" src="https://katana17.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2366-WTC-1-North-tower-being-blown-apart-aerial-shot.jpg" alt="" width="959" height="852" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2366-WTC-1-North-tower-being-blown-apart-aerial-shot.jpg 959w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2366-WTC-1-North-tower-being-blown-apart-aerial-shot-300x267.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Organized-jewry-Did-911-2366-WTC-1-North-tower-being-blown-apart-aerial-shot-768x682.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 959px) 100vw, 959px" /></a></p>
<p><b><br />
John: </b>Box cutters.</p>
<p><b><br />
Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">Box cutters. And so people believe that shit for like, &#8230; I believed that for quite a long time, which is quite shameful that I fell for that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
And once you get that, they use the same script over and over and over again! They take a picture, some story and they write something completely false about it and they pump it out on all their channels, which is all under their control, and that’s how they do it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
So that’s the whole thing, to become healthy again, we have to understand that what they are feeding us is lies!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
That’s why we have to form, we have to become our own media. Once you extricate yourself from this jewish media and then you go back and look at something, you cannot believe that you ever watched that stuff. You know, when I see what they bring on German news here, it’s just so sickening, it’s so disgusting! It’s complete, total, indoctrination and lies! It’s worse here than I think it ever was in the former Soviet Union. And we used to mock that and not understand that we ourselves are also being lied to. And now they are just lying to the whole world! And the whole world is waking up simultaneously.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong><br />
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John: </b>Yeah. No doubt! It’s one gigantic scam and it’s so obvious to see. Once you really start thinking about these subjects and really do your own research, and come to your own conclusions, you can really just see it everywhere! And see, you know, all the propaganda in all the commercials, for example. Or really anything that’s on the television, anything that comes out of the radio. Even a lot of things you see on the Internet, you know.<br />
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</span>And getting back to the role of like, survivors, “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivors. I’ve been seeing a lot of articles lately, and you see this from time to time in the jewish press. How they’re sort of, you know, they’re afraid! Because all of these, quote, unquote, “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivors are dying and they’re afraid that, you know, the memory of the “<i>Holocaust</i>” is somehow going to fade away, or something. And they’re actually, they’re literally creating, you know, like virtual reality and having these like simulated “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivors in these museums now. Have you seen anything about this? Have you seen any news stories about this? I just saw an article of <b><i>Haaretz’s</i></b> the other day that I tweeted. And, you know, they’re basically creating these fake “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivors and putting them in virtual reality in order to perpetuate this fake story! It’s ridiculous!</p>
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</span>Alfred: </b><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know a story, I read this about a year or so ago, it was in the UK, someplace, where the younger jewish people are saying:</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<i>Oh, you know, just hearing what my grandmother went through, it as traumatized me and I need special care!”</i></span></p>
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</span>So they’re whining on, whining on about, how they are also “<i>Holocaust</i>” survivors, because they hear these stories from their grandmother, and blah, blah, blah. So they’re just taking these lies, trying to take these lies further and further.</span></p>
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</span>The thing is that the jews have maneuvered themselves, painted themselves, into a corner and they don’t know how to get out of that. They are on a stage and don’t know how to get off! And that’s why I say we have to try to open a door for those jews who are not the culprits themselves. To come out from this construction of lies. Because these lies are over! They have no future! And if they choose to try to exploit these lies at our expense they will have some explaining to do when the mob comes and looks for justice! Which it will! The mob will, I mean, it was not without a reason that the jews have been tossed out of about 109 countries, or areas, before, that we know of. It’s probably a lot more that we don’t know of, because they like to erase history all the time. So this always leads to the same result.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Map of jewish Migrations and Expulsions (click to enlarge)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s like you have a parasite and the parasite grows and grows inside of you, until one day you just throw up, you puke it out! And that’s what’s going to happen. We are now at the stage where we cannot stand these lies anymore! And we are going to throw up, get rid of it, toss it out! And when you get, when you have this condition, you feel like you’re going to die at that moment. You get really sick. But after you have thrown up, got rid of the parasite, then you can start to recover and slowly get back to a meaningful life that has some kind of a future!</span></p>
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</span>Because living with a parasite controlling you completely and totally, bringing in, flooding your lands that your forefathers fought for and built, with invaders out of the Third World, not being able to resist. That is no life! That is not a future! And then these invaders are so audacious and tell you that you are guilty of something, while they’re stealing everything from you! They’re profiting from this.</span></p>
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</span>So that’s it, like it is up to us! And that’s why when you talk to other White people it is everybody’s duty to do everything you can to all of those who are near and dear to you, to make sure they are immune to these control trigger words, become healthy again and join our team. And we have to grow our team and that’s what we’re doing.</span></p>
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</span>John: </b>Yes, exactly! Well said.<br />
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</span>Now, I wanted to wrap up and get your take on sort of, what’s going on here in America with President Trump? And then, you know, maybe the prospects of other nationalists in Europe. I mean, do you see any sort of political solution to any of this, or any prospects in the political arena in addressing any of these issues?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Not with Trump. Trump has been a massive deception. We had a lot of people warning us about it. Some of us had hopes that he has triggered a certain awareness of our, the fact that we’re being lied to. But now Trump has caved in and is nothing but a sledge, &#8230; is being used as a sledgehammer by the jews against Iran probably, against Syria, against, basically trigger the Third World War.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Against against North Korea as well. Yeah, he’s just warmongering against everyone.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And I think, you don’t know how much of that is just bullshit, how much is just to make us hysterical. There is no reliance on any information. But we do know one thing, that Trump has exposed himself as being a pathetic tool of these jews!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Some of us might have the hope that his big ego, if he understood enough of what’s going on, that he would actually do something for our people! But he hasn’t. He has proven himself to be a tool, their tool. That’s why the solution is going to be, it’s going to be an ugly one. It’s going to be brutal. But he is basically, Trump is probably going to be the last President from this system that we have now, and then were going to go into a chaos mode.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why it’s good to have networks of your own people. People in the countryside that have their own farms and so forth, who have the best chance of surviving that. But we’re going to go into a very chaotic time. And I was hoping, we were hoping that Trump might steer us out of this stranglehold, from under the stranglehold of the parasite, but he’s not. He’s actually a tool, their tool, so that is not looking good.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes, I basically agree with you. And I wanted to give Trump some benefit of the doubt and give him some time to see if he could actually follow through on any of the stuff that he ran on. And it doesn’t look like he’s going to be doing that any time soon.</p>
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<p>He’s just been increasingly, more and more disappointing. And I mean, he’s basically even outright betraying, you know, a lot of the things that he said and said he was going to do, whether it’s the “<em>Wall</em>”, you know, he’s basically backing down the wall now. He just said the other day that, you know, the “<em>Dreamers</em>” these illegal aliens who were born here, you know, he’s basically saying that they are OK. They’re not criminals, they can stay. You know, it’s very disappointing! And to top it all off, now he’s really sucking up and kissing up to the jews. He just gave a speech at the US <strong>“<em>Holocaust</em>” Memorial Museum</strong>, just today I think it was.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">I know, that’s beyond, &#8230; For me I mean, for him to have so little, such a dysfunctional brain is nothing short of astounding. But a positive thing is that I do not recall ever having a President of the United States being exposed, to being the fraud in such a short period of time. I mean, how long has he been in power now? And look at how people have now seen through, in fact, he is nothing, but pathetic puppet of these jews!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now that we know it we know what we’re dealing with. So that’s it. They’re are going to have to try to put us all up against the wall and kill us all, like they’ve done in the Soviet Union? But I don’t think, you know, it’s world wide now, it’s global and this is an end game! This is the part of the jewish plan that will not go according to their original designs.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right. Well, guys, I put up some some links on my Twitter feed. Go to my Twitter feed and check out some of Trump’s recent statements dealing with the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and, you know, speaking in front of these big jewish groups and whatnot. It is enough to make you want to vomit. I mean, I almost did earlier today. I was watching some of his, well I pretty much watched the whole thing, it was like fifteen minutes long of his speech at the <strong>“<em>Holocaust</em>” Memorial Museum</strong>. And it’s just so pathetic! It’s all the ridiculous talking points! It’s all the jew ass-kissing and, you know, “<em>Never again!</em>” and “<em>We stand with Israel!</em>”.</p>
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<p>All the other nonsense you hear repeatedly from all the other politicians. It is very, very disgusting to watch and it just shows once again, you know, we’re never going to get anywhere unless we’re openly dealing with revisionism, with the fake “<em>Holocaust</em>” narrative. Unless we’re openly dealing with other controversial topics, like 9/11, for example. And, you know, the reality of race. I mean, we have to deal with these subjects as adults. And Alfred, I think you’re right. I mean, we’re at a moment in history where you can get on your phone, you can get on your internet. Get on, you know, get on your computer and discover the truth about all of these topics. You really can! You have the information, it is easy available to you.<br />
You know, you’re going to be judged on how, you know, where you stand right now.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> You know, what role are you playing and helping to expose these lies? Or are you going along with it? Or are you, you know, benefiting off of it, or are you facilitating this crime spree? That are are no excuses anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Yes. What you have to remember, those people who choose to keep their head in the sand are betraying all of our forefathers and they are betraying all of our children! This is a single moment in history and the lies are going through and for anybody to pretend not to understand, if you if you are still supporting the lies you are, either because you are a coward, or you are a traitor, or you are retarded! But the lies are going through. There’s no honor in pretending you don’t understand.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s the whole thing, people have to understand. That you really will be hiding in shame by protecting the lies. Because no matter how much you think everyone else is going with the lie, no they’re not. People are waking up an incredible rate. Faster than ever before. This is an exponential curve, so I just tell people that if you want to be taken seriously by anybody in the future you’d better start speaking up loudly and clearly. Because we are taking note of who is pretending not to understand. And these people are shameful, just shameful, disgusting!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes sir! And it has to be emphasized we all have a role to play, every last one of us! You know, where, what role are you going to play? That’s what you need to ask yourself.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Exactly!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> So, yes, very good Alfred. I’m glad that you were able to come on the podcast and talk about some of your recent activities. So I mean, I guess, real quick, just to wrap up. Where do you currently stand? Are you basically waiting to go to court, or how’s year legal situation?</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">They told me I have the obligation to get a lawyer. And then I had a good colleague of mine, a comrade, and he says he has a good lawyer for you, because if you don’t, if you let them give you one they’ll get some communist, or something and not really work for you.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the thing is, I don’t think anything’s going to happen. They keep this in a state of limbo, because they know that they don’t really have a chance against us as a team. And we are a good team. Or they have to lock us up with some new law that they are going to bring in and do it like in the Soviet Union, basically. Throw us down a deep hole and kill us or something.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">This is now at the point where they have to either, become extreme and just kill us, hopefully that will instill enough fear in other people to keep their mouths shut, but the truth is coming out, so I don’t know! Right now, I’m just enjoying life, I’m working like crazy, I’m talking to you about things I’m not allowed to talk about. But I don’t pay attention to somebody who tells me, you know, how to think, I don’t take him seriously. And that’s it! Like, I do not obey a law that is illegal, put it that way.</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Right on. Well I admire you sir and I wish you the best. You’ll have to keep me and hopefully the audience posted on developments. Maybe we can do this again in a couple months and we’ll see where you’re at. And, you know, I agree with your optimism. I mean, I think that we’ve made a lot of progress. I think it’s still going to be a long struggle, obviously. But we have a very valid and terribly righteous cause and we shouldn’t be ashamed of it. And, you know, people got to get involved and you’re certainly doing your, you know, playing your part.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Well thank you John! And I always say that you are also a shining light, a beacon of courage and initiative and that’s what we want to see more of. People need to support you, they need to do stuff themselves. Everybody has to start doing something! Doing nothing is just not good enough!</span></p>
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<p><strong>John:</strong> Yes I agree. OK Alfred, well, thank you very much for joining me this evening. I really do appreciate it. And yeah, we’ll have to do this again in the future.</p>
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<p><strong>Alfred:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff;">Absolutely! And the pleasure is all mine. Thank you very much John. Thank you.</span></p>
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