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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Thomas Sewell: Alrighty, we’re live. Max volume, everything. Audio input, capture.

 

All right, testing, 1, 2, 3. Use my big boy voice. Volume’s low. What’s your problem? I actually found a setting. Everyone’s like, Tom, fix your settings. We’re going 150%. There we go. Alrighty. Alrighty. Testing, testing!

 

All right, obligatory, free Joel Davis! Free Brandon [Koschel]! Free Jim Roberts!

 

So I’m going to cover a few subjects today, as you expect, with a solo stream. I really enjoyed my most recent stream with James Mason. It was like a five hour don’t Fed post challenge hard. He Fed posted a couple times, but as you’d expect. But I reviewed it and it wouldn’t breach. It wouldn’t breach even the most ridiculous laws we have here in Australia.

 

Now, one thing that I need to correct from the stream is I think I said that the book Siege is in a grey area of the law. My lawyer has told me that it is potentially banned. So he was like, it’s kind of in a dark grey area of the law. It’s not 100% banned. There is a banned list of books in Australia and Siege isn’t on it. But I cannot encourage anyone to go and buy that book because they haven’t made the case yet.

 

But what he suggests is that they’re trying to make the case. So I’d be very careful with that book in Australia. That’s one thing I want to clarify. Yeah, I think Mason gave a pretty sound explanation of what his intention of the book is. And I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any negative press because I know the journalists will watch a stream like that and get their AI ready to write an article for them about how evil we all are. But, yeah, that hasn’t happened.

 

But I do want to give people caution here in Australia that, yeah, I’m not encouraging you on legal grounds. I’m not encouraging you to read the book.

 

And I think all I said in the stream was that I did read it back in 2019 after being bullied by Jacob Hersant into reading it. I originally didn’t read it because I thought it was what everyone says it is. And I was like:

 

“I’m not really interested in that. I know enough about X, Y and Z through reading army manuals when I was in the army, so I don’t feel the need to read something of that nature.”

 

And then Jacob was like:

 

“No, it’s. That’s not what it’s about at all! There’s like some contentious lines in it. But overall, that’s not what it says.”

 

And Mason clarified that on stream. And I do appreciate him doing that because I think siege culture and accelerationist culture is really misunderstood. You know, accelerationism as a concept is, and siege as a concept is really misunderstood. And you’ll notice when I said to Mason about how our strategy has been to do the maximal amount of work with the minimal amount of damage, you’ll notice he was nodding the most. Mason’s not advocating for anyone to be an idiot and go to jail. He’s actually advocating the opposite. He’s saying:

 

“Do as much as you can to the integrity of the system without ruining your life!”

 

And he is proof that he’s done 60 years in the struggle. 60 years of inspiring people to be like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this system is evil and corrupt and contributing to it and trying to seek entry into it in hopes to change it is not an effective strategy.”

 

And he’s always been an advocate of the opposite. To siege it, to besiege it, to starve it. And yeah there’s no point, you know, running at it, doing a hero run, you know, charging at the castle walls, you’re just going to get pinged by some dude with an arrow. You’ve got to just wait it out, you’ve got to siege it, not wait it out and do nothing. But there’s a lot of things you can do while besieging an enemy.

 

And so people have to think creatively about what that means. And not but again, all politics, all politics, when it is in its infancy, attracts radical people. And radical people are more prone to self destructive behaviour. And so you want to have people that are courageous, you want to have courageous men, you want to have courageous leaders. And courageous does not mean foolish!

 

And so you do have to balance the concepts of bravery and courage with patience. And there’s a lot of virtue, a lot of virtue in having the strength to put yourself against a system that’s destroying you without becoming a martyr, you know, without letting the system destroy you. Now if you step over that line and the system puts you in jail for life or you get assassinated, like George Lincoln Rockwell.

 

I mean, Matt Hale, for example, who was involved, my understanding, with the creativity movement, he wasn’t the founder, but he was like the young hotshot that was rising up. And I think he’s in jail for life. I think he gets out of jail in about 10 years time from now. And he’s been in jail for like 20 years. Guys like Matt Howell, for example, just got really unlucky. They got. He got really unlucky and he got caught up in something that he hadn’t. I’ve looked at the case, I’ve looked at the case, the facts of the case, and the guy hasn’t done anything wrong. They could just. He was just a serious threat to the system and something like that could happen to me. But God willing, I’m safe from that level of corruption!

 

[07:42]

 

And I think it might be good luck, it might just be good luck! It might be destiny. But you don’t, what is it? You don’t count your chickens until they come home to roost or something? It’s still early days. It’s very early days. I’m still a young man. I might be bald, but I’m young and fit.

 

So, yeah, it’s, I’m 33 years old this year as of this month. And yeah, there’s a lot of struggle to go.

 

Just open with that if you haven’t checked it out, don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s five hours. It is broken down into separate conversations. There’s an hour and then there’s a break and then there was meant to be an another hour and a break. But it, the first hour, the first two hours is very consumable for most people.

 

And then obviously, if you’re really into this stuff and you go for long drives and, or you work a job where you can have a, your headphones in a lot of tradies and stuff. Tell me that they like the five hour streams. Don’t be intimidated by having these really long streams. They appreciate, they appreciate the dialogue.

 

So as long as not too often. I don’t think you should listen to streams every day and I don’t think you should listen to music every day. I have been doing a fair bit of community service. I got to do knitting, as you’re all aware, and I advise people not to, I listen to music sometimes the whole time, or a podcast or an audio book. Books are probably the best thing. Books are better than streams because books, streams and dialogue and conversations aren’t as sharp. There’s no way I can communicate with you as clearly and as sharply as, say, reading Mein Kampf on audiobook. It’s not possible because of all the jargon. Those are the clearest thoughts possible. And then they go through an editing process.

 

So where are we? So already in the chat. Already in the chat! They’re arguing about Christianity already. Instantly! It’s incredible! Christianity will come up in this stream. When we talk about Manosphere, we’re going to cover feminism in general. We’re going to talk about all this girl bossing that’s going on at the moment with the Evangelicals. And there’s some heinous stuff that I’ve seen on Twitter where these little soy boy freaks are marrying these goblina jewesses with like 100 body counts. And they’re just saying:

 

“But she’s saved by Christ!”

 

And so it will come up. The conversation will come up. When we’re talking about that. There is definitely part one of this stream. What I’m going to open with is I’ll just. People still saying the volume’s low. Let me just unmute myself. Hold on. Now we’re. I could put up 175. I’ll just go 200. I’ll go 200. Okay. People still complaining. 200%. 200% Audio input, capture, volume. And the mic is like an inch from my face, maybe two. Two inches. Audio input, capture. I’ll put this one at 150. Alrighty. How does that sound? Testing for the last time. Testing. Yeah, fair enough. It is pretty quiet. Yeah, there’s a lot of retards in the chat today. Classic. Everyone’s spurging out. Yeah, that does sound better.

 

All right, sweet. Everyone’s arguing over which strain of Christianity. It’s incredible! It’s incredible! It’s endless. It’s endless, isn’t it? It never ends. It never ends.

 

So to start with the Aboriginal question. So obviously we are still what I am, and I have friends and we are trying to get a political party on the table here in Australia. And so covering the Aboriginal question, and you could call it the woman question, is really important. And it has to be done in a way that’s legal because of these laws here in Australia. And it has to be done in a way that people can understand the values and the rhetoric without getting caught up in the emotional arguments. So one has to be cautious when they approach these two topics. So you might find my speech slightly more refined than normal.

 

Hitler won the female vote in Germany. He actually had more women vote for him than men. And that’s a really interesting phenomenon to consider that more women voted for Hitler than men.

 

And so it shows that women don’t have to necessarily like you in order to respect you and I think that’s an important dynamic. A lot of people have commented, including Mason, about how journalists have behaved, female journalists specifically have behaved when interviewing me. And I saw someone online describe it as “negative tingles”, that they’re not used to someone outside the court giving them negative tingles. Normally it’s boring. Normally their job is boring. And then to have someone that’s got an intense character and an intense personality, it hits the dopamine receptors differently. And I’ve seen grandmas on Facebook comment sections in replies to these interviews saying, “hail Australia”. And all the criticism and all the advice people try to give us over the years is all wrong. It’s all backwards. It’s actually all the other way around. The female question is the opposite of the current orthodoxy, the current belief system of how women should be treated and how politics affects women. It’s all wrong. It’s all an inversion of the truth!

 

The truth is that it comes down to respect! And they respect integrity, not niceties! They don’t respect niceties, they respect integrity. And they respect aggression as long as it’s a as long as it’s not a foolish, foaming at the mouth, barbaric aggression. They don’t have much respect for that, but they almost respect that more and get better tingles from that than Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese. These characters provide no stimulation to the female political psyche. And so understanding how to win the woman vote, you’re not going to win it with outright misogyny. That’s obviously ridiculous! This idea of just be a prick and you’ll get voted in. That’s not what I’m articulating.

 

[16:04]

 

What I’m saying is that people should not continue to spread the lie and demoralisation within our broader scene, our broader movement and political parties in the West, that the way to win the woman vote is to pander to them. That’s really what this comes down to, is the pandering.

 

So that’s a subject on its own that I’ll cover. So that’s what you got to look forward to.

 

But first we’re going to talk about the Aboriginal question and specific. We’ve talked about both these questions a lot, but the reason why it’s come up again is I’ve had a lot of people in person and online message me saying:

 

“Why is our strategy to go to war with Aboriginals? Won’t we win more votes and won’t we do better in Parliament and won’t our message be more well received if we don’t go to war?”

 

These are their words, not mine, with Aboriginals. And my position is not that we’re going to war with Aboriginals.

 

And obviously the Camp Sovereignty situation has played a part in this dialogue because people think that the reason why there’s allegedly an incident on that hill was because of the Aboriginal question. And it’s completely it’s not irrelevant. It’s not irrelevant, but people are conflating and the media has done this. The media has purposefully misled people and made a significant portion of people that support us question their support on the basis of:

 

“Well, why would they attack innocent elderly Aboriginal women?”

 

And most people can see through it. But there is a portion of our supporters that are like:

 

“Oh, I don’t think that was a good move. You probably shouldn’t have attacked innocent elderly Aboriginal women.”

 

And it’s, well, one, that didn’t happen and two, the conflict., … And this is the position that interestingly, a lot of Aboriginals actually share, not all, but a lot, is that the issue is these White traitors.

 

And so if these White traitors didn’t behave the way they did, there wouldn’t be as much conflict between the Whites and the Aboriginals. And you’ll find there’s a lot of, probably a higher percentage of Aboriginal DNA Aboriginals that aren’t supportive of multiculturalism. And there is, the Left call it like an Uncle Tom syndrome, obviously. But my position has always been towards all races that it’s about respect. And it’s a zero sum game a lot of the time regarding resources and living space. That’s zero sum.

 

And so there’s going to have to be compromise or there’s going to be if there’s not some sort of what I’ve always said about the question of re-migration is people bring up the Aboriginals, whenever you talk about re-migration they say:

 

“Oh, but what about the Aboriginals? They were here before you!”

 

So because of that, they’re in their own select category. And what I’ve been trying to explain to people online is that Aboriginals have a choice. And this is the sound bite and this is what you should be saying to if I know a lot of people have an Aboriginal friend, or a part Aboriginal friend, this is what you say to them:

 

“Our position is that you either have part sovereignty over the whole or over full sovereignty over the part. But you can’t have both.”

 

I’ll explain that again. The Aboriginal people can either have part sovereignty over all, or full sovereignty over part. They can’t have both! That’s not a compromise. That’s White genocide. So White people, Anglo, Celtic people predominantly have come to this continent because the continent wasn’t a country, or a nation, it was a continent. It’s a land mass. It’s an island, a big island.

 

But we’ve come to this place. There’s a whole bunch of warring Aboriginal tribes. Some are in cahoots and some aren’t in cahoots. Some have been here 10,000 years. Some have potentially been here 40,000 years. The numbers keep changing. But either way, we came here and we built something separate to them. We tried to include them. There’s a lot of interesting history from the first and Second Fleet and from Arthur and Bligh, Philip. There’s some interesting history where they’ve tried to integrate the Aboriginals and it’s almost always backfired horribly on both the Whites and on the Aboriginals.

 

And so when you look at and Auspill’s done a very good job at covering this, when there has been massacres of Aboriginals, so-called these genocides or massacres, it’s always come down to establishing the Anglo Saxon law on the land. It’s come down to:

 

“Hey, we want this land, we want this territory. We’re bigger and stronger than you. We’re not going to come after you, we’re not going to attack you. But we want this much space. And, it’s living space for Whites. Europe has to breathe out. We’re overcrowded in the streets of London. We’ve got this problem with criminals or petty criminality, people stealing Spoons and stuff. We’re running out of space. We found this place. We’re in a geopolitical issue with all these other people. We can’t explain this to you. We just need what we, what we need. And we’re prepared to fight for it! And your options are to fight us or to just keep moving deeper and deeper into the bush and away from this spot. It’s ours now. You’re not having it back.”

 

[22:11]

 

And obviously anyone in their right mind would be pissed off by that. If some alien force came, you know, from space and did that to us right now and we had really little ability to fight back because they were so technologically advanced, we would rightfully be pissed off, wouldn’t we? But we would have to retreat into the bush, we would have to White flight. We would have to be like, this is too much. We have to consolidate what we’re doing.

 

And so this is beyond Good and Evil. This is a, this is Nietzschean in this concept. The Left try to put a moral framework on that and say:

 

“That’s wrong, that’s evil. And therefore we have to surrender Australia to everyone! We have to be cucks, we have to bend over and we have to let anyone come here and rape us because of this founding moment!”

 

Because White people equals bad as their moral framework. That is their entire moral framework. White people equals bad. And they’ve got this original sin concept:

 

“We’re bad people! We’re horrible people! We’re horrible, bad people!”

 

Now, obviously straight White men don’t think this way. The only people that think this way are people with slave morality, which is homosexuals, freaks, a lot of women unfortunately think this way:

 

“Oh, no, we’re horrible! What we’ve done is so horrible!”

 

You know, this kind of bleeding heart. Not all women, but it is a naturally, it is a feminine energy to put your empathy for others. Well, it’s not even a, it’s a distortion of feminine energy really.

 

But look, it appeals, it appeals to weak willed people. Masculine men don’t think like this. Testosterone doesn’t allow your brain to even go there. We’ve got a completely different philosophical structure, a completely different reality because we’ve got a solar morality. It really comes down to these simple principles. It’s not about good and evil, it’s about solar morality. It’s about, we are a life form, we must exist, we must continue to exist. We don’t have to be pricks about it, we don’t have to be cunts about it. But we’re not going to back down, we’re not going to surrender, we’re not going to roll over and die. And so how do we make this work?

 

And so obviously, while we’re in a nice friendly talking phase about it, I don’t have an issue with Aboriginal sovereignty. It’s not my issue. I don’t. Good on them, Good for them. That’s my position on the Aboriginals. Good for them! If they can have it, good on them.

 

But it’s got nothing to do with me. I’m not paying for it, I’m not engaged in it, I’m not involved in it. It’s not in my face, it’s not in my place, it’s not in my space. It’s in their space. Now that is the problem! That is the problem is that multiculturalism is forcing all these radically different people to live together. And we’re not meant to live that is going to be the death of us. It’s going to be the death of our culture.

 

Now these people, they have a flag, they have a tribe, they have an identity. They’re trying to rebuild their culture. Good on them. My opinion, and I think the opinion of most Aboriginals and most White people is that they should do it on their own! I think they’ve had enough help. We’ve done enough to help them, more than enough to help them. It’s not our responsibility to help them any further.

 

What part of the land are they going to get? Well, that is the most serious conversation. But the philosophy behind that conversation I think is congruent. I think we can, I think all Australians can get on board with the idea that we have a two-state solution, at a minimum. To me, that’s the minimum. If they want to go to war with us, that’s a different conversation.

 

But I think you’ll find that there could be conversations where they have their own government, they have their own schools, they have their own institutions. Are they going to be as good as ours? No, they’re not. Is that going to cause the bleeding hearts to be like:

 

“See we’re still continuing to oppress them by keeping them separate!”

 

And there’ll be an anti-apartheid argument, but apartheid is the most beneficial thing for both parties. Because they will never have dignity, they will never have sovereignty and they will never have dignity while we play this passive aggressive game where they’re trying to rule over us and we’re trying to say we’re all friends, Kumbaya. That is never, while both of us are actually suffering. So I’ve said in the past things like if they want to, if they want to fight, they might get deported too. They’ll get deported back to India. They walked here 40,000 years ago. They might get told to walk back.

 

And I’ve said things like those are very strong comments and obviously a lot of Aboriginal people want to fight me because of those comments.

 

But that is my position. I’m not backing down on that. I’m never going to change my mind on that is my position. It’s a two-state solution or it’s that because we cannot continue. And when we take power in this country, and we are going to take power in this country, we are going to solve this question and we are going to say:

 

“Let’s sit down, let’s draw up the map and here is a fundamental treaty of you will not let China put bases on your land, you will not let any foreigners put bases on your land, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Like there will be a treaty that will say:

 

“You are a vassal of our realm. This is Australdom, this is our realm, you’re a vassal, you’ve got a territory, you self govern it.”

 

Whether we trade or buy or sell or communicate with each other, whether there’s tourist visas, all this is downstream. We can work something out where they can come visit us and we can go visit them.

 

[28:08]

 

The bleeding hearts can go live with the Aboriginals. But you will not put Chinese bases on it. Like this is fortress Australia. We’re not going to tolerate it and you guys can police yourselves. You can have your own laws, you can have your own courts, you can have your own koori justice and your own jails and your own prisons, and all the complaints that they have all solved overnight. All solved overnight. We have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with it. We have no part of it! You want to go spear each other, that’s your culture. That we’re not going to intervene. And that is the absolute best outcome for everyone involved! That it’s the best compromise for us. Certainly it’s the best compromise. Is it perfect? Is it ideal? Can we purity spiral and get a better result? Sure, absolutely!

 

Is that feasible? Of course, anything is feasible if you put your mind to it. Is that how the Australian public feel? No, the Australian public don’t feel that there could be something more than that. There might be people that want to do more than that and go further, certainly. And that ethnic tension arises from living together. But I think once you find, once you take that step in that direction, I think you will find that tension will disappear.

 

So when people say to me:

 

“Tom you know why are we doing this? Anti Aboriginal rhetoric and da, da and we should try to win the Aboriginals over and we should., …”

 

The way they’re talking is they’re treating Aboriginals the same way. They’re like:

 

“We should try to win women over. We should try to win!”

 

It’s kind of similar to attitude. It’s like that’s not how it works. You don’t win Aboriginals over by pandering to them. You don’t win women over by pandering to them. I know they’re two very different biological forms. You know, obviously one is male and female. One is just female. You know, when we’re talking about women, we’re talking about White women, obviously. And I’m not making any further comparisons in that regard.

 

But if you understand, what I’m saying is the politics of the White man, the politics of the White Patriarchy, is not about pandering! Our politics is about laying down the law, explaining what we’re going to do and why we’re going to do it and how we’re going to do it. And then saying:

 

“This is the best outcome for everyone. What we’re doing right now is not working and we’re not making any further compromises on that’s the line in the sand.”

 

We’re actually only going to go further than that, we’re not going to come any less than that.

 

There is never, in my opinion, there’s never going to be a time where I or the vast majority of White people in Australia are going to accept are our slow ethnic replacement. It might appear that way right now, but it’s only because we’re not politically organised. This is not how the average Australian feels. This is not how the average White person around the world feels. The average White person around the world wants re-migration. They want to remain, at a minimum, 90%. That’s like the beginning. That’s not even, like controversial anymore, that the 90% or the 95% rule. That is the super majority of the population. I just like deport all of them except the good ones. That’s the super majority. And then you’ve probably still got the majority saying:

 

“No, no, it shouldn’t be 90, it should be 99%.”

 

So, yeah, anyway, I’ll pause there. I won’t cover that subject much more. Oh, my God! There’s a sorry, there’s a spastic in the chat. How do I do ban this person for life? I don’t want to mute. I keep making this mistake. If I mute, then I can’t ban. Isn’t that right? Okay, that just deleted it. Oh, yeah. Also muting on Rumble because Odysee is different. Muting on Rumble is banning. Cool. Glad we got that sorted.

 

I’ll go through the comments section. If there’s any comments on the Aboriginal question. Geez, everyone’s just arguing about Christianity. We’re not even talking about Christianity. We’re just talking about Aboriginals at this stage.

 

So, yeah, in short, as I said before, tell your friends that say this nonsense to you about how we should work together:

 

“We all got to work together. We all got to work together.”

 

They can have full sovereignty over themselves, but not us. Or they can have this fake sovereignty over everyone. Do they actually want full sovereignty? If they do, it can only be over themselves. That means apartheid. Ultimately, that means apartheid. What that looks like is a man can’t serve the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag. You can’t go to a at the high school, at the courts, all these institutions. It’s got an Australian flag and it’s got an Aboriginal flag. That is not sustainable. It’s one or the other. It can’t be both.

 

And this idea of:

 

“Oh, we got to show solidarity and they’re not a threat to us and all this.”

 

It’s not sustainable. It’s not sustainable. It’s nice. Tingle feels. It feels really nice:

 

“Oh, look, I’m being empathetic. Oh, I’m a good person.”

 

You can have this virtue signaling, but we’re two very different peoples. We need to have sovereignty over ourselves. They need to have sovereignty over themselves. We need to be focused on Australia and White people and civilisation, the Western civilisation that we’re a part of, and they need to be focused on creating their own harmony, the dream time, their version of reality, fixing their problems, punishing their problems. They have a completely different version of reality to us. That is just how different ethnic groups and different races are built. They have different versions of reality. Things we see as a problem that they see it like a major problem, they see as a minor problem, and vice versa. Their biggest issue is White people are locking them up and putting them in jail. Like, they can’t even comprehend that our problem is that they’re committing heinous crimes. They can’t even comprehend that’s a problem. They see the problem as:

 

“Why are you locking us up?”

 

[35:04]

 

It’s the same with the blacks in America. How can these two groups of people live together when they have completely different versions of reality? So they should police themselves. Simple as! Part sovereignty over all or full sovereignty over part.

 

So you can’t have both. Simple. As I’ll move on. Hopefully the comment section is not talking about Christianity, someone says:

 

“Do I make my own toothpaste?”

 

Very funny. Yeah. And this applies not just to Australia, this applies to obviously, Canada and New Zealand as well. I think the Treaty of Waitangi is a mistake in New Zealand. I don’t know too much about the treaties in Canada. I know Alex Ferryman does. Yeah, it’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Any treaty that exists needs to be a treaty of:

 

“Here’s your space. Here’s our space. You live there, we live here. You’re citizens of your country. We’re citizens of our country. We’re two separate nations. We’re not the same nation.”

 

They even call themselves the first nation so that by definition, they’re not part of our nation. They’re saying this. They’re saying this, not me. They are saying it. What else?

 

Let’s get into the nuts and bolts. The woman question. I need a need a breather. If we’re going to get into the woman question. I need a breather. Yeah. Someone says:

 

“Easiest solution is allow those same bleeding hearts to transfer their own funds to Aboriginals, not government or social funds. The Left can put their money where their mouth is.”

 

Yeah, absolutely! Well, I believe that all the bleeding hearts should go live with the Aboriginals. They should have Aboriginal citizenship. They want to be so bad. They hate White people so much. They hate being White!:

 

“White people are horrible, horrible people! And having White children is perpetuating White supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Good bye. Bye. See you later. Awesome! You know, we’ll strip all of these people of Australian citizenship when we come to power and there will be people that will say:

 

“Oh, my God, you can’t do that!”

 

Yes, we can and we will. They’re all going to get stripped of their Australian citizenship. These White people that work, that bow down and worship Aboriginals as their god. They can go live with their god. They can go live with their god. Simple. You know, you want to do the Welcome to Country acknowledgment of country, all this. Absolutely perfect! Perfect. Absolutely! Bye. Bye. Yeah, we don’t want those people living in our society. It doesn’t matter that they’re of the same blood as us. That doesn’t matter because they’re not of the same honour as us. They hate us! There are some sort of mutation of our bloodline that is antithetical to our existence. If Aboriginals didn’t exist, they would find some other group to nut hug. Hypothetically, because there’s no Aboriginals in England. Like you don’t see people advocating for the pre-Belgic-Celtic invasion of Bronze Age England. That doesn’t exist. You know, what kind of strain of Leftism would that be? You know, it’s obviously absurd because you’ve got a thousand years of homogeneity of many different layers of Celtic peoples then breeding in with many different layers of Germanic and Nordic peoples.

 

So it’s the English people, the British people are a relatively homogenised people. And so you don’t see that argument because those tribes can homogenise quite. I mean, obviously it still caused things like, I mean, I don’t want to get too much into the intricacies of English history, but you can see the precursor of things like civil war in previous ethnic distinctions.

 

So, for example, Croatia and Serbia are ethnically very similar, but they’re not ethnically the same. They are two different ethnicities and therefore they also have two different versions of their interpretation of Christianity. You’ve got Orthodoxy and you’ve got Catholicism. So ethnic differences play out also religiously and also politically. You’ll see this a lot through human history. You see it in the American Civil War. There was an ethnic difference in the American Civil War as well. Probably not as predominant, but I won’t go into it. Americans know that for themselves.

 

Now someone says:

 

“Tom’s right. They have a different reality. Go to any Northern Territory prison and you’ll see the system isn’t working.”

 

It’s not working by our standards. Absolutely! Our version, our reality of working and their version of working are two completely different things.

 

And I’ll finish it with this. I had a Dreamtime experience with Aboriginals. I’m sure I’ve told this story on stream years ago, so those that have been around a while will remember this story. But I had a friend in the army, a guy called Christopher Knight. He was a Special Forces guy. He’s a translator, he’s a linguist. And I don’t know what he’s doing now with his life, but I’m sure he’s doing well. And he was adopted. He got adopted in a cultural sense, or a linguistic sense by an Aboriginal. An Aboriginal tribe in Darwin in Northern Territory. And this guy was a, like one of those, what is called politician-linguist or something. This guy spoke like 50 languages. It was incredible! I’ve never seen anything like it. I mean, we would go out drinking in Mitchell street or whatever it’s called in the CBD of Darwin. It’s like one street and there’s like four bars on it. And any backpacker, he could speak their language. Any backpacker. It was really incredible!

 

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Anyway on his weekends, he was going out and living with Aboriginals out in the middle of nowhere. And there were like some, there were full bloods and it’s very rare to find full bloods, but in Northern Territory it’s more common. There’s no way you can find full bloods outside of Northern Territory or Northern New, Southern Queensland or Northern WA. And he started hanging out with these, basically semi-nude Aboriginals in the bushland near Casuarina Beach on the weekends. And he knocks on my door. I don’t know, it was like one in the morning, one random. It was like a Tuesday, or a Thursday. And he says:

 

“Hey Tom or hey Sewell.”

 

Everyone calls you by your last name in the army:

 

“Hey Sewelly, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. They need a linguist. He was a two commando guy, but for some reason he was in our battalion. And he says, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. I’m getting on a plane and I have to say goodbye to some people and I had to run some errands. Can you drive me?”

 

Because I was one of the only LID, which lid means new guy or live in digger. I was one of the only LID that had a car. And I was friendly with him, and everyone thought he was a weirdo and I did as well. Weird means different things to me than it does to other people. When someone says weird, they mean like not radioactive, but they mean, you know, semi-ostracized. They mean:

 

“Oh, we don’t associate with that guy because he’s a weirdo!”

 

Whereas when someone’s weird, I am fascinated by human psychology. And so I was always very friendly with him because I wanted to know what made him tick. He had such a different version of reality to everyone else that I just really wanted to understand. I mean this guy was probably in his early 30s and I think I was 19 or 20 at the time.

 

So I was like:

 

“Unk, how do you view the world? What’s going on, Unk?”

 

Basically I was the same relationship I have with Zoomers and is like that relationship when I was The Age that a lot of Zoomers are that asked me for advice And I’m now. I’m now 90.

 

But anyway, he says, he’s like:

 

“Sewelly, you’re the only one with a car. You know, can you drive me around? I gotta say goodbye to some people.”

 

And so he drives me out in the middle of nowhere, and then we go walking for like 40 minutes down this beach. And I’m like:

 

“What are we doing?”

 

And we find these Aboriginals just on this beach in the middle of nowhere. And they’re all sitting cross legged and around a little campfire. And he introduces me to them and he’s speaking their language, like full Aboriginal! Like whatever sect of Aboriginal they are. And he’s speaking their language. And he introduces me and he says a bunch of Aboriginal words.

 

And then he says my name. And then he says:

 

“5 RAR, 5th Battalion.”

 

And I was like:

 

“What did you say to them?”

 

And he said:

 

“You’re a young warrior from my tribe, from the 5th Battalion tribe. And that you’re a good warrior. You’re a good, young, strong warrior and that you’re helping me today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh.”

 

And then they all, like, acknowledged me. They’re all sitting different. So it was men. I was sitting with the men, obviously, and the women were sitting at a different campfire with the women, and it was segregated.

 

And so I was with the men and Knighty was explaining to them how I was a good warrior, a good young warrior of the 55 RAR tribe. And we’re sitting there and they’re just talking and talking, and I went into a trance. I was tired, but I didn’t know what was, … It was like someone had drugged me. I was in a trance and I was just staring at the ocean, because we’re on the beach. And I was staring at the ocean and the sky was purple.

 

And I was like:

 

“Is there something in this fireplace? Like, what? Like, am I on?”

 

I’ve never at this stage, I’d never tried any drug ever!

 

And I was like:

 

“Is this what acid feels like?”

 

That’s what I was thinking in my head.

 

And I was like:

 

“What is going on?”

 

And they’re making that noise that they make. They’re talking and yeah. And then the sun’s coming up and I’m like, what is going on? And I look at the time and it’s like 6:30. And it was just surreal! It was a surreal experience. And then he’s like:

 

“All right, we’re gonna go.”

 

He gave them bananas and double A batteries. And he taught them how to like Jerry rig a phone to be able to give co-ordinates so that he could communicate where they were in the bush using GPS. And it was just fascinating! It was just absolutely fascinating! That was my first positive experience with Aboriginals. And I had had only about 500 negative experiences with Aboriginals prior to that moment. And every negative experience I’d had with Aboriginals was them being drunk, or not even drunk, but them just behaving the way they behave, and then being violent and aggressive towards me for just existing, for just walking down the street or just going to the shops at two o’ clock in the afternoon. Or them harassing like pregnant ladies trying to get in their car, demanding money off them. Like just every experience I had was so negative.

 

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And then this was the first time I was like:

 

“I think I’m starting to understand these people. They live in a dream time.”

 

Like the proper full bloods. They live in a different reality to us. They don’t like time. The way we view time and the way they view time is completely different! And I somehow empathed in that moment into their little hive mind with Knightie, who was like my guide. His name was Christopher Knight, like a knight of Christ! And he was a very spiritually attuned man. And that was an experience I’ll never forget. I think I was almost, 20 years old. I was only 19!

 

But yeah, very interesting stuff. Very, very interesting stuff.

 

The stream looks frozen on my end. What is going on? No, no, it’s not frozen. Excellent! Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? I’ve seen the best of it and I’ve seen the worst of it. And the best of it is we should just leave these people alone. Like the problem is enlightenment. In a lot of ways, [chuckling] enlightenment has benefits, certainly. I’m not anti-enlightenment. You know, that’s a big part of how we’ve come to be. And it was a big part of our life cycle as a civilisation. It’s the second last phase of civilisation is enlightenment. The Greeks went through this around, I don’t know, 400 B.C. And yeah, I’m not against, you can’t be against it because it’s nature, it’s time itself.

 

But one of the dumbest parts of enlightenment is “equality”. That’s the dumbest part of enlightenment. The, the, that is the false enlightenment. The false enlightenment is that we’re all blank slates and that we’re all equal. That you know:

 

“All men are created equal before God and blah blah, blah!”

 

That is the most. How the hell. I don’t even know if they sincerely believe that. I can’t even fathom that they were that stupid that the people that colonised Australia, … Because when I read Clark, I’ve got it right here actually, this one here.

 

So this guy’s a communist. He’s a piece of shit, Leftist communist! And he wrote A History of Australia. I have, I’ve only read this one. I haven’t read the other volumes. I think this one ends around 1830. And he wrote this in I think 1961 or 62. And he’s a full blown communist and was investigated by ASIO for being, for coordinating with. Here’s the big boy here. Here’s the main man. Here’s the main man. Mr. Cook. Captain Cook. Anglo Saxon. Anglo Saxon. But yeah, Melbourne University. He’s a commie at Melbourne University.

 

Anyway, I read it. It’s quite interesting, quite subversive. But he, oh, he really emphasises the how enlightened Captain Cook and you know, Arthur Bligh and all these guys were and how they, but what’s interesting is he can’t hide the fact that despite their Enlightenment, despite the fact that they. Excuse me. They arrived in Australia and they tried to treat the Aboriginals as equals.

 

And so they’re like:

 

“Hey, let’s trade.”

 

And then there was nothing to trade. So they were like:

 

“Hey, let’s, …”

 

It was like a clash of values because they had these Enlightenment values and they didn’t know how to implement them on the Aboriginals. They didn’t know.

 

And so there was a whole bunch of different treat ways the Aboriginals were treated by European colonists. And I think it was the Portuguese and the Spanish in the Americas, but a little bit even in the Asia Pacific region, the Portuguese were in Asia Pacific as well. And they were basically like:

 

“You’re going to convert to Catholicism by the sword!”

 

And what Clark says is that they didn’t have those Enlightenment values. So you’ve got like Protestant Anglos trying to communicate with Aboriginals and like uplift them into humanity and uplift them into civility.

 

And then you’ve got the Portuguese with almost like pre-Enlightenment Catholic values that were just like “convert or die”. And that’s quite interesting. You know, it’s possible to talk about history without talking about Christianity. But yeah, that’s quite interesting. I won’t expand on that too much. You can gather from that what you want.

 

Yeah, where was I going with that? Yeah, he has all these little anecdotes or all these little stories about these first encounters and how, yeah, the enlightened English were just bewildered and were just like:

 

“We’ve never encountered this anywhere in the world!”

 

And he’s actually honest about the criticisms that they had. I think he might over embellish their enlightenment principles. I think they were probably a lot more racist than what he’s articulating because he’s a communist.

 

But yeah, I think I titled this Aboriginal communism, didn’t I? Before we get into the woman question, ultimately, if we don’t segregate from Aboriginals, we’re going to get destroyed by Aboriginal communism the way that what’s going on in South Africa, they’re dealing with African communism. And when you end apartheid and you mix or you attempt to get the races to all live together in equality and one is so different to the other, it’s a race to the bottom! And that’s ultimately what communism is, it’s a race to the bottom.

 

And it’s not just anti-enlightenment because there’s a lot of things that are anti-enlightenment, but it is anti-life! It’s ultimately anti-life because our version of life is an upward force, not a, so it’s hard to cover this without getting into the Greeks. You got to get into the Greeks because they figured all this out! And I don’t mean like the Greeks is in the souvlaki shop. I mean like the ancient Greeks, the philosophy.

 

The Greeks realised that when they went through their enlightenment that there’s not just being, there’s becoming. And that the ultimate being is becoming. And we use the word “progress” now and that word is obviously really dirty and that’s why I don’t use it. It’s a very dirty word. To say something is “progressive”, you’re saying it’s Leftist.

 

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And so the Leftists have actually somehow inverted “becoming” into “progression”. And so when they say it’s progressive, it’s actually regressive! It’s regressive of the total life force. Leftism is the downward path. It’s not Left versus Right, it’s up versus down! And this is something that you really need to understand. Communism, Aboriginal communism, jewish communism, any form of communism, any form of Leftist progression is a progression downwards! It’s progressing the life form downwards. And this applies to even politics of today.

 

So if you want to talk about party politics, if you want to call it that if you want to talk about Parliamentarianism, what the Labor Party here in. I know this is people like, I’m tuning out. I don’t want to hear this. But normies want to hear this. Normies, you do need to. If you’re listening to this, you’re probably not a normie. And you do need to know how to apply the logic that I’m articulating here in the stream to things other than ancient Greece and ancient Rome and like all this stuff, you need to be able to apply it to be able to explain it to, … You need to be able to speak in tongues and that doesn’t mean like that crazy Evangelical crap. That means you need to be able to speak the tongue of the people.

 

And so what the Labor Party here in Australia has done is they’ll get lost on this because they haven’t read a book on economics, but it’s this Keynesian economics where it’s window breaking. So they believe that if you keep breaking windows, the GDP will go up because the glazier is going to make more money. And, it’s all that in conjunction with Fabian socialism. So Fabian socialism is what:

 

“We want the windows to be broken because we want more money wasted on fixing windows instead of building the power system.”

 

And so Fabian socialists or Fabian Communists, Fabian Marxists. They’re ultimately Marxists. They want to create this workers revolution through accelerating the decline of society by wasting as much money as possible.

 

And so that’s why the NDIS is the way it is. That’s why the NDIS is bigger than the defense budget. That’s why we spend more money on parasites and retards than we do on protecting the nation from foreign invasion. It’s why we spend so much money on basically compounding problems. Not fixing problems, but compounding problems! And the problem itself is often the expenditure, the wastage, the fact that we’re taxing the noble, the good, the healthy, and we’re giving to the evil and the weak and the disgusting and the decrepit.

 

And this is Kali Yuga stuff. This is end of time stuff. This is what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. Why you have to read Mein Kampf. It’s not negotiable. It’s not negotiable! If there’s only one book you should read, it’s Mein Kampf, because he explains all of this. He explains exactly what’s happening, exactly why it’s happening and exactly what you need to do to stop it from continuing to destroy your society.

 

So that’s why they’re window breaking. That’s why the Labor Party and all the Greenies and all these freaks, they’re all on board with destroying society through taking money from good people and giving it to broken people. And what that does is that what you feed grows. And they know that! They know that! They know it and they’ve already projected how that industry is going to expand. And it is beyond political parties. I mean it’s the Uni-Party doing it. It’s not just the Labor Party. But it obviously gets worse under one and then the other does Labor Party light. They do Fabian socialism light. That’s what the Liberal Party is. It’s homosexuality light. Fabian socialism light. Retard economics light. You know it’s diet retardation!

 

Anyway. Aboriginal communism. Yeah. Where are we? Yeah. I don’t normally do Superchats mid conversation but Delvian said:

 

“Isn’t the abo love a second order consequence of White men becoming feminised and White women hating their own men?”

 

There’s definitely an element to that. I think there’s a lot of different components to the so-called “Aboriginal love”. There’s the false enlightenment, there’s self hatred. Yes. There’s virtue signaling. So society is structured wrong, which is what we’re going to get into with the feminine society and the woman question. Society is structured with an inversion of natural law. The moral framework of society is an inversion of what our society was built on.

 

So that is often described as late stage decline or degeneration where you forget what your purpose was to such an extent where it’s upside down. There’s obviously nefarious influence. There’s particular (((interest groups))) that are a particular ethno-religious orientation and they compound and accelerate and destabilise. Certainly. They’re obviously a major player in that process but it does happen on its own. And you know there’s a lot of, I won’t go into all the proverbs and quotes on the subject but this festering can only exist if you’re already going in that direction. What we need is a complete re-evaluation of values. And you know we have gone through two or three generations of a nihilist phase and we are re interpreting and revaluing our values. We are so far ahead morally of where we were 50 years ago. And people will aay:

 

“No! That’s not true. No! People were so conservative back in the day.”

 

And it’s like they were running off inertia. They hadn’t actually evaluated their values. They were just running off inertia. We’re actually so much further ahead by going through the decline, seeing the nihilism, seeing the hedonism.

 

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And I have so much faith and hope in the young generation. Young White people across the world, obviously, a lot of them are infected with the social disease. A lot of them are infected. But the ones that aren’t infected with the social disease have immunity. They have immunity! They have built up. They don’t need to be injected with anything. They have natural immunity! Young White people across the Western world are growing up immune to this social disease. And the disease of our time is not the plague. It’s not the Spanish Flu. It’s not? What is it? You know, all the ones that people, tuberculosis. It’s not these things that are killing people anymore, you know.

 

And Edward Dutton covers this a lot. I’ve talked about this on streams for years and years, and I’m so glad someone actually wrote a book about it. I’ve only read the blurb. I haven’t actually read the whole book, but I might actually get around to reading it at some point. But Dutton covers this and he explains that just the mutational load has the selection process now is, are you a retard or are you not? And if you’re not a retard, you’re most likely immune to the retardation that’s destroying our society.

 

So, yeah. All right, we’ll do it. We’ll go into the woman question. Check the comments first. Someone says:

 

“Ban women!”

 

No, we don’t need to ban them. Reese White says:

 

“Thomas. So are you a fan of Adam Green?”

 

I don’t really know anything about Adam Green. I’ve seen him on Twitter. He’s the anti-Christian guy, isn’t he? He’s kind of built like a platform. I haven’t seen him at all! I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t really know anything about him. I only know of him. Yeah, I can’t comment on that question. I’ve seen a lot of people attack him saying he’s jewish, and I’ve seen him say that Christianity is jewish.

 

So it’s like everyone’s saying:

 

“You’re a jew! No, you’re a jew! No, you’re a jew!”

 

And it’s like I’m not getting into it. It’s not in my sphere. I think I’ve seen him do chats with HT [Handsome Truth]. Yeah, we will cover a little bit of Christianity here. But yeah, you all know I’m not Christian. But we will cover it and we’ll cover it in a respectful way. I think that any criticism people have of Christianity should be done respectfully. I know that’s hard to do. It is very hard to do. But this is a, yeah, I try to be as secular as possible and yeah, let’s start with that. Let’s actually start with Christianity.

 

Let’s start with. If we’re going to talk about the woman question, let’s talk about Christianity.

 

So the Hebrew mythology or the Hebrew founding story is Adam and Eve. It’s a bit different to other founding stories, but you’ll find there’s so much similarities when you’re talking about the origins of man from. And I don’t use mythology. I don’t say mythology in a bad way. I don’t say it in a, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m not putting a pejorative on it. You know, all founding myth is myth. It’s mythos. We don’t know for sure, but we can respect myth. I respect myth. Yeah, and geez, we’re already into it.

 

But we all know the story Genesis. So we have this perfect garden of peace and harmony and the founding story of Christianity and therefore the founding message, the founding message of Christianity is that women are inherently attracted to evil. And breaching the peace and harmony of the garden that’s created by the father.

 

So it’s kind of like women inherently have to “shit test” a situation, a society, a these aren’t my words. This is not even my personal interpretation. I didn’t come up with this is what the Bible says.

 

And anyone that has a different version of Genesis is a moron and hasn’t read it. So many Christians haven’t read the Bible. Probably one of my main issues with Christians is that they haven’t read the Bible. I don’t think you should be allowed to call yourself a Christian if you haven’t read the Bible.

 

And likewise, I don’t think people should call themselves a National Socialist if they haven’t read Mein Kampf. I don’t think you should say that. I think you should say I’m interested in National Socialism, but I don’t think you should identify with it. You should hear the words from the man. He says it all. He outlines 95% of it in one book. And it’s a lot easier to read than the Bible. The Bible is a very hard book to read. It’s very tedious at parts. It, sure, it has beautiful parts, like all religious books have beautiful parts, but it is a very hard read. It’s a very long book. It’s like a million words. It takes a long time. Unless you race through it, if you race through it, you’re going to miss things. But Genesis is very clear. Like the first books, Genesis and Exodus, these things are very clear. Very, very clear. There’s no, not much nuance to it.

 

Now there’s obviously different mythological interpretations. What is the snake and what is the apple and what is God’s command and all this. But if you’re going to found a religion off this principle, it’s going to bleed through the whole text, isn’t it?

 

So whatever you’re reading later on in the Bible has to always come back to Genesis and a belief system that men and women were created unequally, that man was created from breathing life into dust or into matter. Women were created from the rib of man, so from the side. So it’s a peer, but it’s not an equal peer. There’s some sort of difference there. And so, I mean, obviously.

 

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But I was talking to Jacob recently and he’s been deep diving Plato. Absolutely deep diving Plato. I’ve read the Republic, but I haven’t read much else from Plato. And he was negging Aristotle, which I was surprised at because I actually prefer, at this stage, I prefer Aristotle to Plato, not to get too much into philosophy, but I’ve only read the Republic. So and I didn’t really rate it, to be honest. I thought it was an interesting dialogue, but I didn’t rate it as much as it gets glazed. But he’s been reading all the other stuff. Full deep diving into everything, every single thing the guy’s written. And what he said to me was, and this is very recently, he said to me that the Greeks believed that, or Plato believed, and this became quite a common belief system, that if that souls were created, this is before Christianity, they believe that souls were created fresh and that they were all men, that if you lived a bad life, if you were a bit, you know, weak or immoral, that you would be reincarnated in your next life as a woman. And this became a pretty well established belief system. And it’s interesting that that is in some way similar to Christianity, that they arrived at a position where they were ripe for proselytisation from Christian apostles.

 

So let’s start there. Obviously, European Paganism is many things, just as Christianity is many things. There’s so much schism within Paganism. And when you’re talking generally about Paganism, you’re talking about general principles which we know from Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Indus Valley, and obviously Germanic and Celtic Paganism. And people will cherry pick what they want.

 

There are female church leaders at the moment. I mean, that’s just absurd to me that the whole book is a document saying that women can’t accurately interpret God. They can’t accurately communicate or interpret or follow instruction from God. And therefore they shouldn’t be in charge of the Church. They can’t be in charge of society, they can’t be in charge of the Church. They just don’t possess the correct component to do that. And the whole religion is founded on that principle.

 

And then you have such a degradation of the Church that you now have women pastors and preachers and priests, priestesses or whatever you’d call them. I mean, it’s absurd! It’s not my church, I’m not a Christian. But the hypocrisy is despicable! It is truly despicable! So fascinating!

 

Now, Paganism has varying degrees of male and female relationships. Some interpretations of Paganism are a bit more equitable, others a lot less equitable.

 

So when we go back to the ancients and when we look at thousands of years of civilisation, there is not really any society that has treated men and women as the same, nor has there been a society that has treated women the way women are being treated right now! And it’s not a surprise that our birth rates are really low. Any society that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any civilisation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any nation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies! And therefore it is a footnote in somebody else’s history.

 

So we have to reevaluate our values and we have to completely change the way we behave or we’re going to die!

 

And so the woman question is the same question as White genocide. It’s the same question as White replacement. You cannot separate the two. You can’t say:

 

“Let’s stick to just White nationalism and let’s not talk about how evil feminism is. Let’s talk about White replacement. But we’ve got to keep women on side. We can’t say things that might hurt the feelings of women.”

 

And as I said at the start of the stream, this is a really dumb, weak, coward strategy that’s going to cause us to die as a race! Women don’t respect pandering. They find it disgusting! Feminists are pure evil! And they will because of there’s some force, you know, Christians could say they’re possessed. And I do put a lot of weight in possession. I know not everyone does because not everyone believes they have a soul. And not everyone believes in metaphysics or in like a spirit realm. And so people that are very rational will say:

 

“This person’s unwell, or this person’s mentally ill.”

 

All means the same thing. Whereas the more religious or spiritual way of looking at it is this person is spiritually ill, this person’s potentially possessed. And this isn’t very electable, but I have witnessed what I could only describe as exorcisms. I have seen the way some people have behaved, and there is no rational or logical explanation other than this person is possessed. This person has a demon, a demon in them! They’re not at rest. They’re not in harmony. They’re not. There’s something that is currently occupying them and it’s potentially just a phase, but if it keeps occurring, it’s like there’s something that rears its head, something unbecoming.

 

And that’s a difficult conversation to have with people that don’t believe in demons. They don’t believe that it could be possible. They’re so far into post Enlightenment rationalism that just:

 

“It’s so irrational, the idea that there are forces beyond our control that could perhaps be bad forces!”

 

You know, we can acknowledge that there is a good force and inherently good force on earth, but then we want to pretend that there’s not an inherently bad force on earth?

 

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So instead of arguing about whether Christianity is cucked or not, instead a better conversation is, what can we learn from Christianity? Where is Christianity right? And where is modern Christianity wrong? Or where is Christianity philosophically wrong? That’s a much more important discussion and it’s a more respectful discussion as well. Because what you’ll find is I can have these conversations. I had a conversation recently, probably 20, 30 minutes, with some Christian guys in America, and we could have a respectful conversation about what’s happening through that lens, through that lens of that there is an evil that is possessing. There is a snake in the garden, and it’s corrupting women. And then women are corrupting men. And that women, sorry, men, are aware of the snake. Snake, but most men are not aware of how this snake has perverted women.

 

And so the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read] is we need to normalise Patriarchy. I’m a big, big proponent of Patriarchy. I think that Patriarchy is the only way to save the White race. We cannot save the White race through feminism. We cannot save the White race through equality. We can only save the White race through a proper Patriarchy. A proper Patriarchy! And whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, enlightened, not enlightened, Catholic, orthodox, doesn’t matter! We cannot solve male, female. It does not matter! We cannot solve this problem without Patriarchy.

 

Now, it’s very easy for me to acknowledge Patriarchy because, one, I had a really good father. I have a really good father. My father’s still alive. I have a really good father. A really good father! And he has his flaws. Absolutely! And that’s product of environment and breeding and everything else. Right. We all have our flaws. I have my flaws. Product of environment and breeding and circumstance. But we’re on a mission! My bloodline has definitely been through the wars, and we’re on our way back up. All right. There’s a few more generations of work to do to really get us back on track. But I’m part of a Patriarchy. I have a lot of respect for my family name, my line, my lineage, my ancestry. This is really important to me.

 

And, it’s easy for me to accept and acknowledge this harsh reality. It’s not even a harsh reality. This reality because of what I come from. Women that have good fathers can accept this as well. Most women that can’t accept Patriarchy, they don’t have any respect for their fathers. And they don’t have respect for their fathers because their fathers don’t deserve respect.

 

Respect is not something that you’re entitled to. It is only earned. And I know that’s a platitude, and some people might think that’s a meaningless platitude, but that is absolutely core! Respect is earned! You’re not entitled to anyone’s respect. This is, I think, a false enlightenment principle that, like you should just respect the retard being moved around in the wheelchair. Like, what? What planet are these people on? Like, why that makes you a good person? How does that make me a good person? You know what quality of life is the drooling retard, God? And why are we wasting all our tax dollars paying for the drooling retard? This is solved very easily by Patriarchy. It’s not just solved by having a department in government that deals with the problem. It’s solved by Patriarchy.

 

And so one of the first principles of Patriarchy is that every man is king and priest and judge of his own house! I’ll say it again, for those that aren’t listening. The first principle of Patriarchy is that every man is king, is priest, is judge of his own house! And general. That was a component as well. There’s a martial component to it. And so every son, every boy wants to respect his father for the man that he is. And I can’t empath into how girls think, because I’m not a girl, but I would assume it’s similar. Not the same, but I assume it’s similar. I obviously have daughters. And you know what I was sad about when I was growing up? Not sad, but one thing I was surprised at was I asked my dad why he never joined the army. Because I know his dad was in the navy or in the Defense Force. I know his granddad was in the army.

 

And I remember asking my dad:

 

“Why weren’t you in the army?”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, look.”

 

Because they had the draught for the Vietnam War, and he was of that age, and he just never got called up. So he was like:

 

“Oh, I got lucky!”

 

That was his answer. I think he said something:

 

“I got lucky. You know, you put your birthday in. You had to register. You put your birthday in.”

 

And he said something about “balls with birthdays” on them. Like, it was like the lotto. Like, they’d pull a ball out. And if it was like, March 18th, which is my dad’s birthday, then you’re going, you’re signing up.

 

And I thought that was absurd! But it’s one way to do it. I mean, it’s fucking clown world! But anyway, that was his position, was like:

 

“Oh, he got lucky. He avoided it.”

 

And I always thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool? I always thought, wouldn’t it be cool to walk into my dad’s office and he’s got all his, like, armour and his rifle? And I just had this idea of like. And it’s probably ancient. It’s probably something like an altar, like an altar to Mars, like an altar to masculinity, an altar to the Patriarchy. And then to be able to see my grandfathers and you know there are families that still, they keep all their family medals, the war medals and stuff.

 

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But I mean let’s put that on steroids. It’s not just having like the medals, it’s like walk in and be able to see like generations and generations of uniforms and rifles and, or even before going all the way back to a family sword. That just, that idea is just so cool! And I think every like 10 year old boy thinks like that.

 

And if you don’t, you’re probably a faggot, or maybe you had the idea but in a different way. But if that doesn’t seem cool to you, yeah, fuck you basically! I don’t know. Yeah, you’re not in my gang, that’s for sure. You’re not in my tribe.

 

So back to the woman question. So [chuckling] respect, respect. You can respect that. And I didn’t respect my dad as much as I would have if we had something like that. If my dad had something like I kind of lost a little bit of respect for my dad when I was like 10 years old. When I was like:

 

“Why wasn’t my dad. His answer was he ‘got lucky’.”

 

I was like:

 

“Huh, I don’t know if that’s luck.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like why would that be lucky? Obviously it’s a dumb war and blah, blah, blah and geopolitics is so broken and everything now.

 

But I think part of us is whether you go and fight in a war or not, I think men should be war-like. And I think the “retard budget” should be directed entirely into well first of all we shouldn’t be taxed as much as we are. So there shouldn’t even be a retard budget.

 

But obviously I like when we take power. I’m deleting the retard budget and putting all of it or most of it or some of it into building like the Stormtrooper halo suit Department. I’ve said this before.

 

To get back onto, someone just says:

 

“Fuck employment!”

 

[chuckling] Modern world does a Superchat:

 

“Thoughts on the employee question.”

 

I actually haven’t watched the podcast that young Michael Nelson did on the subject of employment but I can imagine what he was saying. My position has always been that you need to be productive, you need to be productive, you need to find a way of being productive. You don’t want to just sit around doing nothing! But you need to have times of sitting around doing nothing in order to think of productive things to do.

 

And when you’re in employment, like I have had nothing but issues with like Gen-X’s and Boomers that have employed me over the years where they want you to work 50, 60 hour weeks, they want you just in employment, they want you just head down and just hammer drill in the concrete and just ernnn! Or if you’re doing some other job that’s slightly more technical or less manual labour, it’s the same thing. It’s just head down and you’ve just got no time, no time to be a better man. You’re just stuck in a trap! You’re stuck in like a debt trap. And I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where anyone except slaves have worked six days a week or even five days a week. I just think that that’s slavery and they’re boxing us in. We’re getting boxed in and boxed in and boxed in! It’s so obvious what’s happening and it’s so obvious why Zoomers especially and Gen Alpha will be even more so, why people are checking out of this employee, … We’re just getting boxed in.

 

Like we’ve gone from nice blocks of land. There’s plenty of things to do, there’s plenty of animals to tend to. And then you work a couple days a week, you know, old mate needs help with something, you go help him, this guy and people were these warrior farmer builders first, and they were doctors and doctors and dentists and lawyers and tradesmen or skilled labourers second. And it was the pleb class. It’s always historically been the pleb class that became entirely microscopically focused on a singular trade. So like I do pottery, that’s all I do they live in a tiny little house in the city in Rome and they’re the Potter. And all they do is pottery and they just make pots and nothing else. And they do it six days a week, 12 hours a day. And they make pots and they sell the pots and they make pots and they sell the pots. That is what slaves do. That’s what slaves do. That’s slavery!

 

And so, but the whole economics is geared against us because of what they’ve done, because of interest, because of debt slavery. It’s because of debt slavery we can’t build intergenerational wealth where we can have big families on large plots of land where we can learn a whole bunch of skills and manage our farms and feed ourselves and look after ourselves in tight knit communities.

 

The whole economics is now geared that everyone’s a little bug, a little cog in the system. They do their little bug roll and they get their little bug ration and this is broken. This is not sustainable. It’s not going to last. How many generations is this going to go on for? Judging by how much Zoomers want to check out, I’d suggest that Alphas or Betas or what like two or three generations from now, if this problem hasn’t solved itself, I would assume things are gonna be very different.

 

[1:26:10]

 

 

And obviously tying this into politics we’re gonna completely change the zoning laws. Part of the problem with this is people living on 200 square metre little blocks, apartments, townhouses. Part of this is just so dysgenic. We need to not be slave bug people. We need space, we need land, we need multitudes of tasks. Specialisation is key. Don’t get me wrong. We built higher civilisation because individuals did hyper specialise into things. But making pots is not a hyper specialisation. You know what I mean? Like historically people did their specialisation part time. They’d worked a couple days a week doing, and it was usually what was called journeymen. They were usually journeymen like if they were a dentist, or a doctor or whatever and obviously there was no such thing as a lawyer. The whole system worked differently, like tradition, ancient culture and the higher becoming. We have better technology now, but it’s made us, I think we can do both. I think we can continue to improve technology without living like bugs. And I don’t think that interest slavery helped us increase our technology. The increasing technology is part of the life cycle. It’s part of the life cycle of civilisation. And it’s not going to continue progressing in this direction forever for two reasons. One, the law of diminishing returns. And two, we are destroying our stock. So we can’t. We’re going to be in a system decline. The car, the calibre of men that built the society. We can’t even maintain it. We can’t even maintain it.

 

And there’s an elite. They call it elite overproduction. But it’s not. It’s the false elite overproduction. We’ve built a false elite and that’s why these rodents that are all 100, 105 IQ, they got Master’s degrees. They’re absolute midwits! They’re not idiots, but they’re absolute midwits! They are the ones running this into the ground. We have allowed midwits to take over society!

 

And I’m not going to talk about what my IQ is because I don’t think it’s super important, but I think it’s clear that it’s at least one or two standard deviations above average. And we’re having midwits go through university, male and female, and then they’re taking elite positions, but there’s not enough elite positions, so they have to create positions for these other fake elites.

 

And that’s like psychology, for example. You’ve got so many idiots going through university and studying psychology. And so we’ve created a whole industry of government rebates here in Australia and in America you’ve got all this drug prescription and all this mental illness and all this compounding issues of the parasitism of psychology. Psychology, psychoanalysis, psychotherapists, all of this is a parasite economy. They’re all parasites. They’re all parasites! It’s one giant parasite economy! And the purpose of it is to continue to make the problem worse so that they can have employment. And so they will never, ever be able to solve the problem because a purpose of a system is what it does.

 

So that’s just one element of university that’s caused this over education. We’ve got this over education where if you don’t go to university, you’re a moron. And it’s like we have more engineers and architects than we’ve ever had and our society is uglier and more broken! So it shows you that exclusion is the rule to greatness. You need to be exclusive in order to create hyper specialisation. You can’t just send everyone to university or the vast majority of people to university, and then think:

 

“Oh my God, society is getting so much better!”

 

It’s like, no, we’re running off the inertia of intelligent, hyper selective people. And the show’s about to come to a halt. We have printed so much money! They’re literally printing like $8 trillion, not a trillion, 8 billion dollars a day in the US to keep their bullshit fake economy going. And it’s just leading to the Weimar conditions. And we’re going to pay for all of this. We’re going to pay for all of this.

 

And that’s why you need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. And I’ve gone off topic from Patriarchy, but it all ties together. You can’t cover the subject without covering it all. Obviously. I’ll take a pause and I’ll come back.

 

Someone asked me about the employment question. Yeah. You gotta have skills. Look, you gotta have skills. Home of the brave, says:

 

“Tom, you’re the embodiment of the spiritual healing of the entire European race. Hey, we approach phase one of total re-migration of nons in the West. Segregation. Stay safe!”

 

Nah, I can’t do that on the stream. It’s a good question. I appreciate the question. Maybe I can leave that to the end. I can’t do that at this stage. I have to cover the woman question. Celine says:

 

“As a younger White woman, I’ve had to come to terms with Jesus being brown when I’ve always pictured him as a tall White man. Jesus being brown makes me deny it. Christianity is more of a woman thing.”

 

I don’t necessarily agree with. I don’t know what Jesus looked like. But I’ll tell you a really funny story. I’m not sure if I told this story on stream. Obviously all the Christian identitarians are raging at you now because they’re all saying Jesus was blonde hair, blue eyed, Aryan. I saw a really funny post yesterday or last night where some guy was saying that Jesus was Italian. He was like:

 

“He was born in Judea of the Roman province of Syria. He was therefore Roman. He was therefore Italian. Jesus was Italian!”

 

I just thought it was funny. Obviously he’s not being serious, but I wonder what the implications of everyone saying Jesus was Italian would be. And whether that’s like a bit of an icebreaker. Because it’s like people say Jesus is a jew. Well, the Bible says Jesus is a jew. And then Christian Identitarian said Jesus was like a Nordic Aryan. And then it’d be funny if we just say like:

 

“We meet at halfway and say Jesus was Sicilian or something!”

 

That’ll [chuckling] cause drama, won’t it, that one! But that just would be funny. We’re like, Jesus was White passing. That’s like the compromise. Now I know you people don’t believe in compromise. They want it one way or the other. Maybe that’ll keep the peace for like five minutes. If we just say Jesus was Italian. It’s a theory. What’s the funny story? So someone in the conversation tell me if I’ve said this before on stream. I can’t remember. Some [chuckling] guy replied, “smartest women woman”. Look, I think I’ve only told this story in person. It’s story time. I might have said it once on stream.

 

[1:33:41]

 

So the last time I was in prison last year I was in solitary confinement and I wanted a Bible. Actually, this Bible right here, this one right here. King James. I wanted a King James Bible because I got my other prison Bible. This is the prison Bible I got the first time into prison. It’s the NIV*. Look at that. [chuckling] Presented to Thomas Sewell, Melbourne Assessment Prison. That was in 2021.

 

[* The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.]

 

Anyway. This is now:

 

“Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. Adam and his wife were both naked and they felt no shame.”

 

Genesis 3:16:

 

“To the woman, he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe. With painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you’.”

 

“Then the Lord said to Cain, where is your brother Abel? I don’t know. He replied, am I my brother’s keeper? The Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for. You will be a restless wanderer of the earth.”

 

Yes, well, they got the mark on him. And I really wonder when circumcision started and when the restless wanderers of the earth started getting the anti-semitisms on him. Anyway, that’s just a theory. I won’t go too deep into that or piss people off.

 

But anyway, I got that version and I read it in full.

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow, okay!”

 

I probably should have read this the first time, but I wasn’t ready because you kind of you read the Bible when you’re a kid and you just like, you don’t read it properly, you don’t read it in full. And when you’re in solid confinement, you get a lot of time to read the Bible. And I read the NIV and I was like:

 

“Whoa, okay, this is definitely eye opening.”

 

And everyone’s trying to convert me. And I’m like:

 

“No, I can’t. Like, I just read it. I just read the whole thing. Are you kidding me?”

 

And they were like:

 

“You read the wrong translation.”

 

So then this time I went to prison. I went and got a King James. It didn’t make any difference for me. But I do think the King James is a better Bible. But story time.

 

So how did I get the King James Bible? So when I got to prison this time I got sent to Barwon, which is a much nicer prison. It’s older, but it is better. And because I was in Port Phillip before that. And they wouldn’t give me a Bible, they took my Bible off me. I got another NIV. I got a wait, is that King. No. So that’s a King James. No, they took it off me, sorry. I got that one later I got another NIV and when I got transferred from Melbourne Assessment the second time to the prison, the Barwon prison, they took my NIV off me and I had to fill out a form to get another Bible.

 

And I was like:

 

“Why? Why would you take the Bible off me? I don’t understand. Just let me keep the book.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, it’s not your property. It’s the property of the MAP.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“So you’re going to send the Bible back to the MAP, back to the other prison?”

 

It’s just crazy! But they’re just there to fuck with you. That’s their existence. And they won’t even let a non-Christian man keep his Christian book. And so then I had to fill out a form to get a Bible. And to get a Bible you had to have a meeting with a priest.

 

So if you want a Quran, you could have a meeting with an imam. If you want to. Whatever it is what it is. I don’t know what the Buddhists have. But like there was these boxes you could tick. I ticked the Christian box and I picked the Anglican one because I’m an Anglo Saxon and I’m not a Catholic, I’m not orthodox, and my grandmother was Anglican. None of the men in my family went to church really, but the women did. And they were Anglicans and so, Church of England. So I picked the Anglican box and it took two weeks.

 

And then this guy, I get pulled out of my cell and I get put in like a visitor room and I’m put in there with a priest. And I’ll just check the comments. Have I told this story on stream? Because I won’t go into too much detail if I have. Oh Jesus, so many comments. Have I told this story before? I’ll just tell the story!

 

And so he was like. I asked him:

 

“Why are you Christian?”

 

And he told me a story. The priest, he said that when he was a teenager he was really angry and him and his mates went out to this golf course and they had a BB gun and they shot a bunch of magpies or something. A bird, I can’t remember what type of bird I think was a magpie. Magpies. And he just felt horrible! He just felt horrible about it afterwards. He had a lot of regret and guilt about killing these magpies.

 

[1:40:02]

 

And then, he was raised in a Christian household, in a Christian environment, but he just wouldn’t go to church. And after like leaving the Church for a year or two and kind of hanging out with the wrong kids and you know, doing bad stuff, like shooting magpies with BB guns, as like most 14 year old boys probably would if they had a BB gun, he started noticing the kids walking home from church. They just looked happier. They just looked happier. And he was like:

 

“I wanted that happiness. I wasn’t happy and I wanted that happiness. And so I started going back to church and I asked my priest, when I was 14, I said I want to be happy like the other kids, they’re all happy. Why am I happy? And the priest said to me, you have to surrender yourself to God. You have to be God’s slave. You have to submit yourself. And once you submit yourself, then you’ll be happy. Then you’ll finally find peace. Because you’re fighting God and that’s why you’re unhappy. And you just have to stop fighting. You have to give up! And when you give up and you let go, then you’ll finally be happy.”

 

And he says:

 

“Why do you ask?”

 

And I was like:

 

“So I asked because I’m not Christian, but I ticked the Anglican box because it was the closest thing that I could do. But what I really want is a Bible. So I’ve got something to read in here because they’re torturing me and I’d like a Bible.”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, okay, okay, yeah, but why do you want to know why I’m a Christian?”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, I’m just fascinated. I want to know your story. Like you’re a priest. Like you’re obviously highly motivated to be a Catholic, Anglican priest. You know, I just, I want to learn more about your journey and like how that, how do you become an Anglican priest?”

 

And then we talk a lot more about this subject. And he’s very, he’s very apprehensive. He’s very like on the back foot the whole time, very defensive. And yeah, just the way he explained it to me, I said to him:

 

“You know, do you still have this same attitude? Like, do you still feel this way about God? Is that your relationship with God?”

 

And he said to me, he said:

 

“I wake up every morning, and the first thing I do every morning is I pray to God and I say, God, I am your slave. Let your will be done through me! I am your vessel. I am your slave on this earth!”

 

And I was like:

 

“You do that every morning?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yep, that’s what I do.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow! That is fascinating!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“It is, isn’t it? And I know that might sound really intense, but it works. It works for me! And I’m so much happier. Life is so much easier this way. It’s just so much easier! Like, I don’t feel what I used to feel. And, look, I still have challenges, and I’m a grandfather now, and da, da, da, da. But life is just so much easier this way!”

 

Okay, [chuckling] what the fuck! Okay. Anyway, an hour goes by, we shake hands, and he goes:

 

“Nice to meet you, Tom. Blah, blah, blah.”

 

And then the second time I meet him, so I ticked the box again. I want to have another conversation. He says to me right at the end, he goes:

 

“Do you want to meet me again? Do you want to talk to me again?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely! I really enjoyed this conversation.”

 

“Are you sure?”

 

I said:

 

“Yeah, I really enjoyed this conversation. I really enjoyed it. I would like to meet you again.”

 

And he said:

 

“Okay, well, what about next week?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Maybe not next week. I need a bit more time to digest this conversation. But maybe give me two weeks.”

 

He said:

 

“Okay, two weeks, Same time, same day.”

 

I’m like:

 

“Excellent!”

 

So this is my only human contact. I’m in a concrete box for two weeks straight. And then I meet up with him again. He walks in and he’s nervous. He’s so nervous! And he says:

 

“Tom, I have to be honest with you. I Googled your name. I thought I recognised you, but I Googled your name, and it was really hard for me to come in today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh! Why is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“Because, … There’s a lot of people in this prison, and they’ve really beautiful people that have done really horrible things. And I’ve never felt like this before where I felt selfish that I didn’t want to come in. But I prayed to God this morning, and I said God, I don’t want to talk to this man. I don’t like this man. I think this man is evil, and I don’t want to speak to him. What should I do? And what God told me was that’s why you have to go speak to him. Because he’s evil. Because he’s evil, you have to go speak to him. That’s why!”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, okay, all right.”

 

And then I said to him:

 

“You ever spoken to a paedophile?”

 

I said:

 

“Have you ever felt that way about a paedophile?”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, no. There are some really beautiful people in this prison. Some really beautiful people in this prison.”

 

“Never felt that way about a paedophile? Okay, interesting! Well, luckily, you are God’s slave, and that God forced you to come in here today to speak to me!”

 

And [chuckling] he said:

 

“I want to show you something. I want to show you my God! I want to show you my God!”

 

And I was like:

 

“Okay, you want to show me your God?”

 

“Are you ready? Are you ready for my god?”

 

It’s this weird, passive aggressive, feminine. He’s got tears in his eyes. And he’s like:

 

“Before I do, can I ask you a question? Why did you want to speak with me?”

 

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And I said to him:

 

“Because I told you the truth last time. My grandmother was an Anglican. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I ticked the Anglo box, not the Catholic box. Simple as.”

 

And he was like:

 

“But me specifically, did you know I was the Anglican priest. Me, personally?”

 

And I was like, I think his name was [changed]. And I was like:

 

“Leslie, I don’t know who you are. I just know that you’re an Anglican priest.”

 

He goes:

 

“You don’t know about my past?”

 

I was like:

 

“No, I don’t know. What is your past?”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I want to tell you a story, Tom. You know, I had to take a stand against, … I mean, there’s a lot of evil men in the world., …”

 

And he’s talking like a lesbian. He speaks like a lesbian, right? He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of, …”

 

Like a feminist. He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of evil men in the world. And Donald Trump comes to mind, and Adolf Hitler comes to mind. And when I was younger, there was a man that came to power in Australia that reminds me of Donald Trump, and his name was John Howard. And when John Howard came to power, he had an immigration minister called Peter Dutton, who you might know, because he was running for prime minister recently. And they imprisoned people in concentration camps on, …”

 

I think it was like, Manus Island or something, one of these islands off the coast of Australia:

 

“And there were these people, these desperate, honest, loving, caring, they were God’s children, and they wanted to come to Australia, and they begged for our help and our safety. And they were refugees, …”

 

And he’s literally crying! He’s literally crying!:

 

“And we locked them and their children in concentration camps on these islands and treated them so horribly! And I had to make a stand, so I went and visited them!”

 

So he goes to the concentration camp and he’s like. [chuckling] He says:

 

“And I like painting. And I met this man, and he was a refugee, …”

 

And I think he was Iranian or Iraqi or something like that. I think Iraqi. And he goes:

 

“And I met this Iraqi man, and his name was Fadim, …”

 

Or some shit! And he goes:

 

“I said to him, you are so beautiful! You are such a beautiful man. Can I paint you? I want to paint you. Will you let me paint you?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Yes, I’ll let you paint me. And then I painted him.”

 

And it’s hot. It’s so weird! He’s holding a, he’s got like a, he’s got the, … Imagine this is the painting of the guy, but he’s got it like this, and he’s holding it on the table, and he’s holding it upside down. And he’s holding upside down on the table, and he’s like:

 

“I want to show you this. And the reason why I want to show you this is because when I was painting him, I looked into his eyes and he was crying. He had tears in his eyes as I was painting him. And I was painting him. And the whole time I was thinking about Jesus on the donkey going into Bethlehem as a refugee, needing safety. And I thought, this man is from that region. This man is from the same region, very similar region, near the Euphrates. And he’s a refugee as well., …”

 

You can predict the whole conversation, can’t you? Like, I’m drawing it out, but I’m drawing it out for effect. This was the tone this guy was taking with me.

 

“And I still remember. And I thought to myself, this is what Jesus would look like, and this is how Jesus would feel if he was here right now with us, seeing what John Howard, behaving in a fascist man manner, putting these innocent people in concentration camps! This is how Jesus would be looking at me. So I painted him. So I painted my God! This is my God, Thomas! This is my God!”

 

And then he shows me a painting of a brown man crying. And he’s like:

 

“This is my God! How do you feel?”

 

A picture of a brown man crying. And I was like:

 

“Fascinating! Fascinating! That’s your God?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I want you to have this. I want you to put this up in your cell.”

 

And I was like:

 

“No, no, I don’t want it. It’s your painting.”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, this is a copy of it. This isn’t the one I painted. This is a copy. I want you to have it. I want you to put this in your cell and I want you to look at my God! And I think that will really help you and I think that’s why I was sent here today to give you this painting.”

 

And I was like:

 

“It’s a decent painting. You’ve done a good job painting it, for sure. This is not my God! This is your God. This is not my God! I can’t put this in my cell. It’s just not my God! Not my God! There are many gods. This one’s not mine. This is your one!”

 

And [chuckling] that was the end of the conversation! And yeah, fuck, I’ve just had too much life experience at this stage! [chuckling]

 

[1:52:11]

 

And when I got out of jail, I’m gonna Google this church that this guy’s from. And it’s like gay flags and trans rights and refugees are welcome and all this shit!

 

And it’s like [chuckling] women pastors! These people, they’re sick! They make me sick! People in the chat saying, Jesus’ Italian. Man. A lot of, lot of Superchats to go through. Jeez. How much more do you want me to go, in a detail about that one? Oh, I don’t know what it is. It’s not dopamine, but it’s some sort of chemical. There’s some chemical in the brain. It’s just surreal! It’s like a surreal chemical. It’s not dopamine. It’s the surrealism of it. It’s the surrealism. Hyper, hyper, what do they call it? Hyper realism. How are these people real? They share this planet with us. What planet are they on?:

 

“I felt really bad for the magpies. That’s why I had to go back to the Church!”

 

Well, yeah, obviously you shouldn’t just like indiscriminately kill animals!

 

But what he was doing at 14 was what all 14 year old boys do, is they’re testing themselves. They’re seeing, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I put meat on the table? Can I put meat on the table?

 

And I said to him:

 

“Are you a vegetarian now?”

 

When he talked about the magpies, I said:

 

“Are you a vegetarian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, I’m not, but I make sure I thank God every time I have meat. And I thank God for what’s happened to the animal and pray for the animal.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough. That’s good. I respect that.”

 

I have a lot of respect for that. I think that’s important when you take life and you’re consuming that life. Trans. The transmutation of it. Transubstantiation. Yeah. Like you’re putting meat on the table and you shouldn’t indiscriminately kill, but you’re doing what all teenage boys do when they’re going through puberty is they’re seeing not just if they can do it, but they go over the top. You know what I mean? They go a little, you go a little bit over the top and then you dial it back in. You’re like:

 

“All right, that was unnecessary.”

 

But he’s gone, he’s dialled it back in so much that his God is a brown man crying. That he has to live with White people!:

 

“He has to come live with the White people! He has to! We have to let them in! We have to!”

 

This is what his God wants. So look, obviously if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this, you would be disgusted by that story, that this is the calibre of priests. This is not Patriarchy. This is not the original church. This is not anything like the Greeks or the Romans or the Hebrews or even the jews. This is like the jews don’t even behave this way. This is like sub-Aryan and sub, even sub-Hebrew behaviour. And like ancient Hebrew, if we’re going to call it that. But this is like a completely poisoned chalice and these people are church leaders.

 

And so, yeah, it’s been completely infiltrated by communists. This is the downward path. They’re cherry picking document a book that has a lot in it.

 

As I said, the Bible’s a million things! There’s a million words in it. There’s a lot going on in that book. You can cherry pick whatever you want to articulate something, but what you can’t lie about is the general progression of themes and the general moral structure that the Bible is putting forward.

 

Now, is there, in my opinion, contradictions of the moral structure? I think there are some things that, and I’ve discussed them, I won’t go into them today. But you’ve all heard me say what I think is contradictory in there, within the moral, within the framing of a lot of things. And in short, I don’t like the story of Jacob and Esau. I don’t like that story.

 

Well, I mean, I don’t like the character! I don’t like the individual. And I don’t like the moral of that story. I think it is either miswritten or it’s not correct, it’s not right, it’s not fair, or there’s missing data, something’s missing from it. In my opinion. Like that would be the only way I could describe it as a moral story. Anyway. But the Bible’s full of that, of this kind of fight of morality. And you can see the schism of morality. You can see the schism of an ethnicity or the schism of a people are schisming, which is I guess one of the main themes of the whole text.

 

But if we just come back a little bit and we don’t talk about the Bible and Christianity, we just talk about the theme of Patriarchy, which is beyond just Christianity. I think that’s one thing the pagans and Christians can both agree on, is that we need Patriarchy.

 

And I think the Christian view is that women are inherently prone to an evil influence, just as men are, but that it infects the women first. And you can kind of see that with how giving women the right to vote and the late Enlightenment values of total, absolute human equality led to the suffragettes and led to women voting and led to first wave, second wave, third wave feminism that has come out of that structure. And we can see the damage that that has done to society. Anyone that can’t is obviously an idiot! But we can see the damage that it’s done. And yet women are also capable of fixing the situation. That’s also interesting.

 

As I said before, when I started women, more women voted for Adolf Hitler than men!

 

[1:58:41]

 

 

So that is a very redeeming quality when you realise that. Well, hang on a minute. Why? How could that possibly be? How could that possibly be? And what that might give a little bit of Credence to is this idea that when there is a strong leader, when there is a return of masculinity and a return of Patriarchy, women are actually more inclined to notice it than men. Women are more intuitive to the cure than men are. They’re more sensitive to the disease, but they’re more sensitive to the cure as well.

 

So I had a thought that ran through my head yesterday or the day before, which was, if we don’t contain women or restrain women, who will? Who’s going to? Because what we can see by the decline of the last hundred years of civilisation is we have removed the barriers, all barriers, every barrier possible, and said:

 

“No. Men and women are exactly the same!”

 

And we have done this to the detriment of women. We have not improved their life, and more importantly, we have not improved civilisation, and we have not improved the fucking mission. And the mission isn’t to make women happy. I want to make that very clear. That’s not the mission. It’s not to make men happy either. You know what this guy’s talking about? It’s like he accepted God because he wanted to be happy. That’s what Nietzsche talks about. That’s crazy! Well, it’s not crazy, but it’s like, that’s not why you should accept God. That’s selfish! That’s not the mission. Morale is not your happiness. It’s your willingness to fight. You have to fight for a mission. You have to fight for a purpose, for meaning.

 

And I believe you have to fight for life itself. Life is an upward struggle. And my religion, my personal religion is what my interpretation of Hitler’s religion is, which is that it’s about struggle into victory. And that these things aren’t necessarily steady states or acts of being, but they’re acts of becoming. Struggle is an act of becoming into victory, which is also an act of becoming.

 

So it’s never ending. It never ends. It’s like beyond time because God has to be above time. God can’t be subject to time because then he’s not God. So God is above time. So therefore, struggle and victory have to be conceived as being principles above time. That it’s like infinite struggle for infinite victory. It’s just like a yeah, it’s like you got a hail victory and you got a hail struggle. You got a hell struggle to hail victory! You know, which is a bit. Yeah, a bit different to:

 

“I just wanted to be happy! I just saw all these people around me and they were happy. And I just wanted to be happy. I just wanted to be a good person because I was a bad person!”

 

You know what? Yeah. [chuckling] Very different sense of moral structure and moral framework. So yes, Patriarchy, restraint, it’s about building a world that is driving towards this goal. And the relationship between men and women in that world is one built off respect, not pandering.

 

And so the issue with our society at the moment at a just socio-economic level with 50, 60% divorce rate, with the family courts tearing families apart like all the societal diseases we’ve got, is about, what they all come down to regarding the bad relationships between men and women and is that women have on average more respect for the government and more respect for the system, for the justice system or for the police than they do for their own husband and their own father. That’s the issue!

 

So a system needs to be built by husbands and fathers that form a collective, that form an organisation that are all on the same page with how they’re managing their family. It’s up to them how they manage their family. But they’re all roughly on the same page as to how they manage their family. A nation is a collection of families. It’s not a bunch of gay men masturbating into each other’s assholes and adopting kids. That’s not a nation. That’s just craziness! A nation is a bunch of families. You know, the family is the building block. This is not a meaningless platitude. It is the truth! You cannot have a nation without families. Because a nation is an extension of the family.

 

And so therefore the leader of a nation has to be the extension of the leader of a family. And the leader of the family is the father or the grandfather or the great grandfather, if he’s still alive. Like that is the leader of the family.

 

And that’s how society has always worked. And it’s a sacred, ancient, basically unwritten rule. I mean, we don’t even need to write this down. This is a reality.

 

And anyone that disagrees with that reality is our enemy. Because they disagree with it, because they care more about something else than making our society, our civilisation, our blood, our spirit, our life force, move upwards. They care about something else. They care about some sort of momentary happiness or some sort of:

 

“I want to feel good. I want to get along with everyone.”

 

Like this is their God, this is their God!

 

And so those people shouldn’t be given the same rights as the Patriarchs, as the people that acknowledge that:

 

“Hang on a minute. We’ve tried that. What it leads to is like millions of Indians and Arabs and Africans coming into our country and just like raping and pillaging and destroying it economically, socially, and sometimes unfortunately, physically.”

 

And these consequences are obvious. And we’re going to structure society in a way that this doesn’t happen going forward. So yeah, it’s non-negotiable. I’ll go through the comments and wrap up the stream.

 

[2:05:06]

 

Where are we? Where are we? Celine’s got another question. Just something about I don’t like Christians. Cool. Three story Rory:

 

“G’day, Thomas. What do you think about starting a petition for Joel Davis similar to one for Brandon Koschel? Chances of their release are low, but this activism can rally support and drive attention.”

 

A petition? I don’t understand what a petition is. Yeah, I’m not in the petition business because it doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. There’s a petition to deport me to New Zealand with a hundred thousand signatures, and yet here I am in Melbourne, Australia.

 

So look, the way we get Joel out of prison is either he’s released because the Supreme Court has a sense of the law and will enforce the law and the law says that he should be released from prison. And the Supreme Court follow through with that because the magistrates certainly don’t uphold the law. They’re activists. They’re political activists that do what the politicians tell them to do. That’s the only way to get him out of prison. Or we wait for the infinity amount of time he’s got to be in prison.

 

But yeah, sorry, a petition is not going to do anything. It’ll help raise awareness and that’s really the purpose of petitions. But no, I’m not in that business:

 

“Thank you for your sacrifices and bravery. God bless!”

 

Yep, thank you. A lot of comments. A lot of comments. Fanny Schrute says:

 

“Jesus was Italian.”

 

I think that’s the way to go. Someone gives me $100 for the cause:

 

“No need for acknowledgment.”

 

Thanks, mate. Celine’s got another one. Something about KGV, Shakespearean old English language. Stone Mountain:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women versus infidelity in men? And are our highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

Oh, that actually brings me to what I was meant to talk about the manosphere and stuff and we just end up talking about Christianity. Yes. That actually brings me to the second half of the stream, and we’ve been going for like two and a half hours. It’s crazy! This is madness, guys!

 

Yes, yes. Look, let me get a glass of milk. Let me get a glass of milk. And I have all these thoughts that I’m gonna put down. Because there’s just been so much chatter about the manosphere and looks maxing and Louis Thoreau’s recent thing. And I made a little post. Obviously most of you have probably already read my post, just explaining, the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read]. These people that are trying to embarrass the manosphere, which is quite easy, clearly. These people are not morally triumphant. These people are equally as bad, if not worse than the manosphere. And don’t get blindsided by this and fall into some trap where you’re going to take moral, what’s it called? Not legalisms, like lectures. Don’t take moral lectures from these freaks! These people are easily as bad, if not worse than the manosphere people. The manosphere people, a lot of them are not good people. I want to make it clear this next segment is not in defense of the manosphere. I’m not saying that. I’ll explain how you should accurately interpret why this phenomenon exists and how it needs to transmute into something much better. I’ll be back. I’ll just close this little thingy. Two minutes.

 

[2:11:12]

 

 

All right, I’m back. I’m not sure who, because there’s a couple wives here, but someone made these little steak mushroom pies. Homemade everything from scratch. And there was a little pot on the stove with like a mushroom sauce in it on top of that. And I just absolutely demolished these absolutely incredible, like 10 out of 10, homemade steak and mushroom pie! And I was dipping the mushroom pie in the mushroom sauce and the steak was like, just perfect! And I got myself a glass of Jersey milk. Raw, organic, biodynamic Jersey milk from my mate’s farm. His family’s got a hobby farm. They’ve got 12 Jersey cows. Incredible! Incredible! I feel like food like that is near medicinal. It’s that good for you. I feel alive!

 

People say we don’t have a culture. And it’s like, whatever these people have as a culture, I don’t care! [chuckling] Like, whatever they think culture is, I don’t care! Like, I’m actually happy with meat pies and footy. I think we got to make it better. We could do better footy and we could do better meat pies. But I am genuinely like a meat pie and footy nationalist. All my kids are going to play footy. All of them. All of them! I don’t care! What I hate about sportsball is what I hate about consumers. It’s the consumption of the fake cult that’s the problem. It’s the cult around football that are the issue. It’s not football. Playing the sport is great. I mean, depends on the football. I think AFL is probably one of the best sports in the world. But I’m biased. I’m Victorian. I didn’t play enough footy growing up. I think that’s why I’m short. [chuckling] People say:

 

“No, it’s the other way around.”

 

No, no, no! Just give me a minute, give me a minute. My dad’s English though, so I played a lot of soccer. I played high level soccer which I know a lot of I know in Europe you call that football, but yeah, we call it soccer in Australia. And footy is either rugby or AFL, depending on which state you’re in. I talked about this with Mason, I think. But anyway, this milk is so good! Are we back? Is the stream back up and running? Stone Mountain says:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women and infidelity men? And are highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

That’s what we’re going to get on. And I’ve got like, there’s like 200 and something comments underneath that. So that’s how far behind I am, guys. I don’t apologise.

 

[2:15:04]

 

So Louis Theroux is the same exact individual as that Anglican priest I was telling you a story about just then. He’s a passive-aggressive lesbian. Louis Theroux, he wasn’t raised by a man, he was raised by a single mom. Now there’s a lot of people that were raised by single moms that turn out as men. I’m not attacking men that have had to go through that unfortunate situation. I’ve got a lot of friends. Almost all my mates in the army interestingly were products of single moms. They didn’t have dads. Almost all of my friends in the army. Which is really interesting and that actually ties in with the Roman understanding of creating a full-time army, was that it was a brotherhood cult of men that didn’t have proper, they weren’t in a proper gens, so they didn’t have a cult of a family. They weren’t in a proper family Patriarchy, so they had to join an institution of Patriarchy. I think you got to do both.

 

Most men I know that turn out, every man I know that’s turned out well, that has been born of a single mom, has had really good male role models. They’ve joined the army or they’ve gotten into MMA or they’ve gone into footy or whatever it is. And they’ve got this like brotherhood. They’ve got this Patriarchy. They’ve got men, they’ve got unc [“uncle”], they’ve got uncs. They might not have dad, but they’ve got uncs. And you got to have uncs. Even if you’ve got a dad, you gotta have uncs. I actually didn’t have any uncs. Well, I had some soccer coaches and stuff, but it’s not quite the same.

 

And then when I joined the army, obviously I was telling you about some uncs. But I didn’t have uncs until I joined the army, basically. You got to have uncs. It’s a big part of young guys developing. Got to have uncs! And the system hates uncs! The system hates uncs! They absolutely hate uncs! This gynocracy, this feminised Kali Yuga, disgusting freak stuff. They hate uncs because they want you to have lesbian, passive-aggressive lesbians explaining to you how life is. And they’re trying to reprogram you from your dad. And if you don’t have a dad, then you’re double fucked!

 

And so that’s why they went after the manosphere, because the manosphere is basically a bunch of guys trying to be uncs. It’s a bunch of guys trying to make money off being an unc. And most of them are not good people. Some of them are the middle somewhere. They’re a bit Beyond Good and Evil. But most of them are pimps, unfortunately. And they feed off the worst energy of the Kali Yuga.

 

But in doing so, they expose it! So it’s a double edged sword. They attract the energy that they put out and vice versa. They go after these OnlyFans hoes and they, you know what I mean? They associate in those circles. Even if it’s from a juxtaposition, it doesn’t matter, you’re associating with it, so you’re going to attract that energy.

 

But Louis Theroux is a passive-aggressive lesbian. And the system is really intimidated by the return of Patriarchy. And what the manosphere represents is these little warlords. It represents these little Patriarchs building their little Patriarchies. And they’re an influencer. And young teenage boys and even older guys in their 20s are looking up to these people. They’re looking up to Andrew Tate, and they’re looking up to, I’ve never heard of who HS Tiki Toki is. I mean, it’s just ridiculous! [chuckling] But that’s obviously absurd!

 

But the same kind of demographic that are looking up to these guys are also looking up to us. I have young guys in their late teens almost every day come up to me and try and take a photo with me almost every day. Some days, five, six young guys will come up to me and they’ll say:

 

“You’re a legend, blah, blah, blah.”

 

Quuk And they tell me a story about what’s happening at their school, and they’ll say:

 

“Like they do a Welcome to Country every Monday morning, and everyone just kind of like, mumbles and they don’t boo, but we haven’t built up to that yet. But then when the Aussie anthem comes out, we all stamp our feet and chant it loud. And all the woke teachers are seething! You can see all the fat bitches seething! And we just smash out the national anthem! Every Monday morning we make a point of it!”

 

They didn’t say that. I said:

 

“You make a point of it?”

 

They say:

 

“Yeah, exactly!”

 

I’m like:

 

“Yeah, good!”

 

But these young guys, they’re looking for unc. Where’s unc? Because dad’s a pushover. Or maybe dad is not a pushover, but you still need uncs. And Louis Theroux is a very insecure dude. He’s really messed up because he didn’t have the opportunities that he should have. But he grew up in a world where you could still, if you’d got your foot in the door you could establish yourself, and if you were good at your job, you would be promoted. And that’s the world that he grew up in. He’s like an older millennial. Actually, he’s probably a Gen-Xer. He’s probably like a young Gen-Xer. He’s somewhere around the Millennial. You know what I mean? Like a Gen-Xer Millennial. And he did a little bit of work for, who’s that other lesbian? Michael Moore. He did a little bit of work for Michael Moore. And it’s that Left-wing agitating expose journalism. Now I’ve watched a few Michael Moore documentaries and I think he does a good job.

 

[2:21:05]

 

Same thing as I’ve watched a lot of Louis Theroux documentaries and he does a good job. Louis Theroux is almost more annoying than in some ways because his whole shtick is trying to get the person to be pissed off! Which again, that’s kind of how my brother behaved. And it was weird! No matter how much my dad told my brother like:

 

“Michael, you can’t talk to people like this. You’re gonna get punched in the head.”

 

And no matter how many times my brother got punched in the head, he still kept behaving this way.

 

Now I don’t think Louis Theroux has ever been punched in the head, but he behaves in a way and he talks to people in a manner where he relies on the passive-aggressive and gynocratic system to enforce his moral structure on society. Now he’s got a lot of idiots and midwits convinced because of the way they’ve done very clever editing. Like they’ll ask a question, whether it’s a silly question, or a good question. And then he kind of feeds off this pause moment the person’s pause paused and reflected on the question and they’re like:

 

“Ha! Gotcha!”

 

And then all the midwits that like Louis Theroux that are watching and they’re like:

 

“Gotcha!”

 

Now, I haven’t even watched this manosphere doco, I’ve just watched the shorts, but I’ve watched a lot of Louis Theroux doccos. So I know exactly his tricks, I know exactly what he does. And it’s a shtick, it’s a grift! And the grift is:

 

“I’m going to try to piss this person off. I’m going to try to make this person seem unreasonable.”

 

And he found a group of people that it was quite clear they couldn’t articulate their value systems. And in a lot of cases their value systems were inherently, not just broken, but misaligned and not very White and Aryan.

 

I’ve done lots of streams on monogamy and polygamy and I’ve talked about how polygamy is a weapon of war. Polygamy is a weapon of war! It’s a weapon. Polygamy is a demographic weapon. It’s a form of jihad. Polygamy is a form of jihad. And there are Christian groups that do polygamy as well the Mormons. And polygamy is not sustainable. It creates, … You want to talk about lack of social cohesion. What it creates is a society where it creates an incel society that check out! There’s a lot of layers to this. When you have polygamy, especially in a capitalist society, you’re now hyper selecting for genes that are capitalist pieces of shit!

 

So I’m not a communist, but I’m definitely not a capitalist. I’m the Third Position. All right? People that think the purpose in life is to make lots of money, and there’s nothing wrong with being good at making money. It’s good to be good at your trade, it’s good to make money, but it’s not, … The love of money is the root of evil! And that’s a fact! Your purpose in life isn’t to make lots of money. If it happens for you and you’ve got a utilitarian or industrial drive to do better, then there’s Aryan qualities in that, as long as you are fairly and honestly and you’re a community minded person, there’s nothing wrong with being rich.

 

I’m not anti-rich. And I want to make that very clear. I’ve never ever been anti-rich. I’ve never seen a rich person and been like:

 

“Why is he rich?”

 

Like the way Marxists feel like they’ve got a jealousy component to it. I’m not jealous of rich people, I just don’t like pieces of shit, and there’s a lot of people unfortunately that are rich because of really immoral means. And there is obviously huge wealth inequality. And it’s very unlikely, except in the cases of religious structures that you could have polygamy in this society that wouldn’t be entirely associated with wealth. It is not going to come down to good genes, it’s going to come down to wealth. And in our broken society, wealth is correlated with being immoral. Wealth is correlated with having bad genes. People with bad genes are doing really well in the society and good honest people are being punished because we’re controlled by these dishonest bad people that have created a structure and a framework to keep them in power and to keep them wealthy and to keep their competition down.

 

And the weakness of our fairness and our altruism is we’ve allowed this to happen. That’s our major weakness. And that’s because we’re living in the collapse of our aristocracy. We used to have an aristocracy, we don’t have an aristocracy. We need an aristocracy! We can’t survive without statesmen. We can’t survive without massive! Well, not massive! Massive is probably not the right word but concrete intergenerational power structures. Democracy is the last. Well, this is late stage democracy. And democracy in of itself is towards the end. And we’re in the end of the end. We’re in the worst form of democracy where everyone gets a vote. That’s not actually how democracy was intended to be.

 

So yeah, I’m not a fan of polygamy. I think that whatever goal you’re trying to achieve with polygamy can be achieved without it over more generations. And polygamy is a thinning of the male population, and we have to be very careful to not thin out the male population. There are a lot of dorks and there are a lot of losers, sure!

 

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DJTriumph
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Man i love when Sewell streams. White pill every time
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Jomaha22
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Every time I see that text “manosphere” I cringe. Where did this analogy came from? Ayn Rand male equivalent?
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
im guessing its the “every single time” crowd
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christophawilkins
16 hours ago
hail
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
great to see another talk mate
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squatmech
18 hours ago
There never anything wrong with the volume wtf is wrong with these people it’s like if you get kicked out of hundred bars but with low volume…
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eclipseNF
14 hours ago
What’s the 5 hour stream where is it?
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Hazelmango
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10 hours ago
https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
9 hours ago
Thanks a lot

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
whats gonna get too us 1st, terminator or mad max?
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Mad Max. These fuel shortages are serious & AI cannot become conscious – it is built from outside-in, life evolves and self-builds from inside-out.

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
ive never heard of any abbos trying to claiming other abbo land that was taken in their tribal warfare, but the land whites took on the other hand will always be theirs??? and dna shows the have only been here for about 5000 years, coming from india and they were not the 1st people in australia, the originals were eaten by them.
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TRUTH1488
11 hours ago
Where can I find that james mason podcast
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Hazelmango
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10 hours ago
https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Tax_Cow
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5 hours ago
Our boomer parents have been hooked on the TV since childhood and they’ve been soaking up jewish propaganda for so long that they aren’t capable of independent thought. Despite whatever their friends and family say, what the TV says is the bottom line. Unwitting agents of our destruction, professing to be enlightened because they watch the talking heads on TV every night.
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Tom, im glad you still give Abos a chunk of land as their own country. African americans & native americans are similar. Thats the best way. I like wat you are doing but im softer on nons. I feel that at this point we may have to give all nons a chunk of western nations, as their own nation. Set cameras up and make documentaries on how they make a clean 1st world society to a 3rd world shithole. Juxtapose it with our first world living. This way we will document in 4D why we will never live with them again. We would play multiple weekly reality TV shows akin ‘Running Man’ & ‘Hunger Games’. This would change our culture. Then we will make museums to store these films and all the injustices we suffered with/from them. Especially the lil caps. Then maybe in the future we might decide to conquer them & retake the land, and put them where we want, maybe isntreal? Or put these brown masses in africa, or somewhere low on resources, since they cant mine them anyway. Tom, I also think 90%+ whyte is a good target. Because the good ones that help us have a reason to. But once we have control we can create policies to reduce their breeding over time: a white centred society; they will admire us or leave; we will be re-morale-ized; etc. If they dont want to accept it, they can always leave. Caramel island is an alternate choice for them too.
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birdhouse456
15 hours ago
The problem with “where is the aboriginal land” is that their concept of it completely different to ours. We look at different metrics. They can’t just pick up and move their culture because it’s linked to place. If they don’t want to give that up they will be motivated to go to war regardless. Or, they’ll just be squeezed out and fade away, because once they are away from their territory the culture doesn’t function. Now we have a hybrid that succeeds at neither way. Maybe there can be agreement with some tribes but others will disappear completely. it’s similar to the clans of the Scottish Highlands. The culture survives, but it’s not what it was.

BossLurker
9 hours ago
Parasites and retards

BossLurker
9 hours ago
The whole “in the past they weren’t truly conservative they were only going off inertia” is actually an extremely good point

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BossLurker
8 hours ago
Around 59:27

leibekohne
5 hours ago
Tom you have some criticism from USA NS bit-chute or odysee. The abos solution is good. I will give them a bare-bush land without any infrastructure, also they have to create own if needed financial system with own currency. This is about purity and recuperation of race thus Australia + has to be 100% white otherwise there will be no progress.Those idiots want to convert abos and save theirs lives but had no problem with murdering 35.000 white Boers woman and children. Cake destroyed Egypt Greek Roman empires by usury and by miscegenation. 1000 year of Romans were destroyed by 100 years of Christianity=Judaism 2.0= children blood drinking sacrificing cannibalism. Germany were destroyed in WW2 by another stupid and manipulated white men who should know better. White international unity.

CrazyRecluse
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56 minutes ago
Tom, I emotionally agree to boot out all leftists, or white antiwhites. But something for you to consider: Richard Spencer says that whites can build because we have all levels of people Elites, managerial class & working class. Dr Ed Dutton “white race functions like a bee hive”. So we might need to select the better ones and put in breeding policies to get them to their 15% balance. Because nearly all managerial class are leftists.

eclipseNF
14 hours ago
More and more blackpilled every single day
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
life is struggle mate, learn to laugh in the face of these demons and keep the sprits of our ancestors lovingly in your heart. heil victory
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trvkvlt
2 hours ago
Thomas Sewell is my rabbi
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drshreddie
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you need a better background, the baby blue with the books isnt working. How about a more masculine color with a NSDAP banner? I know this seems trivial but perception is a big deal and your message is important.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Jacob Hersant: There needs to be no compromise on the Hate Crime Bill the Labor Party is trying to pass! Right now they’re trying to get support from the Liberals so that they can pass it. And there are people that are already celebrating as if somehow we have won. We have not won! The Labor Party has only made a small concession. Getting rid of one aspect of the Bill while keeping the vast majority of it. And that vast majority is some of the most damaging stuff there is. It’s going to completely destroy the way that policing and the justice system works in this country.

 

They’ve gotten rid of one little aspect to try and coax the Liberal Party into passing the vast majority of the hate crime stuff. Everybody hates these laws and yet they’re trying to do this little trick where the vast majority of it will pass anyway! The Labor Party are splitting the Bill so that the Greens will pass the gun aspects of it and they’re taking away just a little bit of it, of the hate crimes aspect of it so that the Liberal Party will pass it.

 

Now Advance have brought out a post saying:

 

“Breaking: Albanese has dropped his hate crime censorship laws. Massive win for Aussies. PM dumps Hate Speech laws.”

 

And as you can see there, it has 192,000 views. And Advance made another post here:

 

“Thanks to the thousands of Advance supporters who contacted their local MPs over Labor’s hate crime censorship laws. This win is yours! A Labor member of the committee said many of the last minute submissions appeared to be the result of lobbying by One Nation and conservative group Advance.”

 

So this is not true. The Hate Crime Bill has not been destroyed! It is still, 90% of it is still there. And the Labor Party is making a gambit so to try and coax the Liberal Party into supporting it and passing the vast majority of it. If we allow them to do this, we deserve to have our freedoms taken away! If we are going to be fooled like this, we deserve to live as slaves in this country.

 

And here you have idiots like Monica Smit:

 

“We won again. The government showed its hand and we learn that we are ready for whatever they throw at us.”

 

We have not won! That is what needs to get through people’s heads. We have not won! The Bill is going to be voted on Tuesday, and the Liberal Party hasn’t made it clear whether or not they’re going to vote for it or they’re going to vote against it.

 

So the Liberal Party needs to be pressured into not supporting these laws because they are draconian. And as unfortunate that the Greens and the Labor Party are going to pass through the gun laws. I get that people are upset about that, but we need to lament the guns later and focus on what is actually in the air. The Right-wing aren’t gonna have any influence over the Greens voting through these gun things, so it’s over.

 

But we do have influence over the Liberal Party and we need to pressure them to not pass the hate crimes aspect of this. The Hate Crime Bills is the most dangerous because it’s going to hold 15 year jail sentences over the heads of radical political activists that did nothing more than engage in political communication.

 

So it’s going to ban organisations and it’s going to expand. It’s not going to only be the National Socialist Network. Give it time and they’ll start banning other organisations that are inconvenient to the government’s agenda. This Bill alone is going to take away all of our political freedoms!

 

And not only that, these laws are bad enough, but they’re only going to expand as you see them constantly expand over the decades. They get one thing through and then give it five years, they’ll expand it, they’ll amend it. It’s going to make politics impossible for anyone on the outside of mainstream politics, whether that be on the Left or on the Right. It’s going to make politics impossible! Because the chilling effect this is going to have is going to make everyone so scared to do anything in this country. And then you’re going to be stuck with idiots. And like the people who run Advance who celebrate too early and may end up being the key people that make this Bill get passed because they celebrated too early! The Liberal Party backflipped on its decision and passed these hate crime laws. If that happens, it’s gonna be people like Monica Smit and Advance and all of these idiots that are to blame!

 

The main message we have to get out there is there is to be no compromise on these hate crime laws! The whole Bill needs to be shredded! We’re not going to be placated by them getting rid of one little aspect.
The whole thing needs to be gotten rid of and the people who thought that they could get away with these laws need to be humiliated!

 

Do not celebrate as if we’ve already won and don’t get distracted with all of these side issues. I see people posting about who the US Ambassador is going to be and other things. The whole future of politics, Right-wing politics, is at stake right now! And people are talking about the US ambassador. They’re talking about things that can be talked about any other day. We have two days to oppose this. The vote is going to be on Tuesday. You need to be spending all of your free time influencing these people.

 

So you need to be influencing, going and telling everybody that they should not be fooled by the fact that they’ve gotten rid of only one aspect of the hate crimes bill. You need to tell them that the vast majority of it is still going through and the Liberals might vote for it. And that the Liberal Party is going to be severely punished in the next election if they go through and destroy our criminal justice system and destroy policing in this country.

 

Because policing is going to go away from policing actual criminals. It already is like this where you have political policing, which is out of control, but that is going to expand beyond anything that we have previously seen. We’re going to have two tier justice in this country like we have never seen. We have to get across the message that the whole thing needs to be opposed! We cannot just be fighting it piecemeal, one little aspect or another aspect.

 

We need to take this seriously. We have two days. You need to be spending all of your free time trying to influence the Liberal Party, particularly because it’s the Liberal Party that will work with the Labor Party to bring forth these hate crime laws that are going to destroy any freedom we had left in this country. Any politics outside of the mainstream is going to be destroyed by this bill! You know, so lock in and make sure that everyone knows that our position as the Australian people is no compromise! Shred the entire bill!

 

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leibekohne
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“Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” ~ Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772 Treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity. The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists. Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Magazine, Sep-Oct 2002 We intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed, not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed. https://birthofanewearthblog.com/the-jewish-agenda-to-destroy-the-white-race/
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charliebrownau
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Gday We wont have Free Speech till the people have removed state mandated – Hate Speech 3 bills 2026 – Criminal Code Amendment (Hate Crimes) Bill 2024 – Surveillance Legislation Amendment Bill 2001 – 18c of Racial Discrimination Act 1995 – Racial Discrimination Act 1975 – Sex Discrimination act – State Mandated Equality of Opportunity – Remove State Mandated Affirm Action – Remove State Mandated Duluth Model (Men automatically guilty) – Remove State Mandated Multiculturalism – Remove State Mandated Diversity – Remove State Mandated Feminism No Fault Divorce Alimony Child Support Divorce Separation I would advocate to remove GST/VAT Welfare Income Tax I would advocate to remove funding/support for G20, Nato, UN, WEF, IMF Central Banks Overseas nations ‘aid’ funding PNG, NZ, China, Middle east funding Lower min wage back to $10 per hour Remove mandated paid ‘leave’ for holiday/sick days/pregnant Since at least 1936 the current ‘Government’ is actually a legal fiction which is registered with the American system The “Australian Government” is a registered corporation as is the ‘parties’ We need to go back to sourvien governance system in Australia They ALL need to be DISQUALIFIED under Section 44 of our Commonwealth of Australia Constitution 1900 UK. They are ALL sitting in treason as political parties and preferential voting is in direct contravention of our Constitution. Our Constitution came with a letters patent, meaning our constitution is indissoluble, it can’t be changed, altered or backdated unless the people are consulted via a referendum but it has been intentionally usurped since Federation that ALL past and present politician have/are sitting in treason. _________ Regards Charliebrownau * Email – charliebrownau@protonmail.com * Videos – https://www.matildatv.com/@charliebrownau * Videos – https://poast.tv/c/charliebrownau/videos * Telegram – https://t.me/s/Charliebrownau
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Remove all jews from Australia.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Welcome to the show. Apologies, we’re slightly late, there was technical difficulties, but we’re here. It is the 4th of November 2025.

 

Another show for you guys this evening and a lot to discuss, a lot to break down, before we get into the agenda. How are you doing? I actually haven’t spoken to you properly since we last did the show because I live in Sydney now, we don’t get to hang out so much, which is sad.

 

So how have you been?

 

Blair Cottrell: Good. Busy, working hard, trying to put together content for my business in my spare time. And I don’t mind the streams because now I get to play hardcore World of Warcraft every night we stream. It’s kind of the perfect slow paced background game. And my hardcore paladin is currently level 36. This is the first time I’ve played this character since we last trained. I’m pretty happy with it too. I’m pretty proud of myself. I got to level 36 without dying once, which is I think that’s a milestone. I don’t think I’ve done that before and I’ve been playing this game since I was like 14 or something, on and off. I haven’t been playing actually since I was 14.

 

But what’s been happening, …

 

Joel Davis: Level 36 without dying. Isn’t your birthday soon?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s on Remembrance Day. November 11th.

 

Joel Davis: That’s right, yeah. Remembrance Day, that’s like a week away. Everyone who went out of their way today to like put a bet on the Melbourne Cup or something, go out of your way on Remembrance Day to remember the fallen. More Australians gave their life in the First World War than basically every other war we’ve ever fought combined. So it needs to be reflected upon. We talk about it on Anzac Day often and so on, but it needs to be reflected upon.

 

The Anzacs were fighting for a White Australia. That’s what they thought they were fighting for, at the very least, they were fighting for the British Empire. And in the First World War, whatever you think of it, which I think there’s criticisms to be levied that the First World War was you know, Judeo-Masonic attack on the old monarchies of Europe and so on, from the Australian perspective, they were fighting for the British Empire in order to try and protect a land for the White man. For us here, that’s what they were fighting for. That’s why so many of them gave their lives.

 

Blair Cottrell: So I think too, if you were alive in those times and of fighting age, you were conscripted, was there conscription? Did Australians have to fight or was it all voluntary?

 

Joel Davis: No, it was voluntary.

 

Blair Cottrell: But if you were volunteering, you wouldn’t have been privy to all the information about criticisms of the mechanics behind the war. All you would have seen was war, like military recruitment propaganda about fighting for your country.

 

And that’s why you would have gone to war. If you put yourself back in those times, it’s very naive to believe that you would have behaved differently to how your great grandfathers behaved. You would have gone to war for the same purpose, to defend your country.

 

So I think it’s a mistake to denigrate soldiers of the past, because:

 

“Oh, it was just some contrived, you know, rich person business. It was some war put together by capitalists and they’re idiots for fighting!”

 

They still believed in what they were fighting for. Even if we have information now to prove those beliefs may have been misplaced, we still have to show respect for our ancestors. Right?

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! They were. And I mean, at the end of the day, we were a part of the British Empire and they were fighting to maintain British Imperial dominance, which is if the British Empire wasn’t brought down from within through traitors, jewish subversion and so on, then that would have been a completely valid thing. But by the same token, fighting the Japanese in World War II mean, obviously we don’t agree with fighting the Germans in World War II, but fighting the Japanese in World War II was obviously necessary to defend Australia from a hostile Asian empire with designs on our territories.

 

Blair Cottrell: Were the Japanese actually planning to invade Australian territory?

 

Joel Davis: They didn’t have really well developed plans to directly invade Australia. They did bomb Australia, though, and they did invade territories we controlled, such as Papua New Guinea. You know, New Guinea we actually got after World War I because New Guinea was actually under the control of the Germans up until World War I. And at the Treaty of Versailles, we basically walked away with control of New Guinea.

 

So when the Japanese got to New Guinea, they were effectively invading one of our territories. And we fought them there and resisted them there.

 

Also, we were part of the British Empire. The Japanese took Singapore off us. They invaded other kind of British Imperial holdings around Asia. So, yeah, it was a direct battle between our empire and theirs.

 

And ultimately, if we lost the Second World War to the Japanese, maybe they wouldn’t have invaded in the Second World War, but then they would have been this massive empire that we would have been at the mercy of and who knows what would have happened in the ensuing decades as a result.

 

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Blair Cottrell: If the Germans and by extension the Japanese won the Second World War, what would that have meant for Australia, where would we be?

 

Joel Davis: I think we would have been forced to make an alliance with the Germans. The thing is, if they won the Second World War, that would mean some kind of victory over Britain for the Germans. If there was a victory over Britain for the Germans, then it would be like a Nazi Australia, I guess. It probably would have been pretty good. So that would have been pretty cool! But, you know, it went the way that it did.

 

Anyway. Rather than talking about World War II again, let’s talk about more current matters, more contemporaneous matters. I want to play this clip. It was publicized by The Noticer* in recent days, but I think it needs to be analyzed and discussed over and over again! And it got attention, but I thought it should have got more attention.

 

 

[* See: Police admit targeting nationalists and say it’s ‘concerning’ they’re forming political party-https:// www.noticer.news/police-target-nsn-white-Australia-political-party /]

 

A lot of cowards in Australian politics refusing to weigh in on this because they’re afraid of being seen to be sympathizing with Nazis, which is really pathetic! And it says a lot about the state of play and the rest of the Right-wing in this country. But I’ll play this clip. The person speaking is the acting Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police and it’s some Parliamentary committee [Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters] of some description. Here we go.

 

 

Female: And AFP [Australian Federal Police] can perhaps speak to this a little as well, Senator.

Nigel Ryan: (acting Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police) Yeah, thanks, Senator. I’m not aware of any specifics, but I think I can talk to some of the issues that we’re seeing and the things that we’re focusing on now, I don’t know whether you had the opportunity to hear our new commissioner, Chrissy Barrett, speak about the focus of the AFP at the moment and what we’re pivoting towards, particularly around issues affecting social cohesion and some of the groups that we’re seeing in society now that are affecting that social cohesion. Sovereign citizens are not necessarily a group, they’re usually individuals, but obviously of particular concern when you have a look at some of the instances of isolated violence more recently, particularly against police, that sovereign citizens have been partaking in.

I guess of more of a concern are some of those groups like the National Socialist Network, who we’re seeing trying to get into more of a political space. Our understanding is that the NSN is looking at whether they can form themselves as a political party, but we do see their activity more broadly. That doesn’t actually hit a threshold in terms of criminal offending, but the behaviour is concerning in terms of them pushing towards the line and a threshold that would be considered not violent behaviour, but disturbing behaviour in terms of what it means about how people feel about their safety and how they feel about the social cohesion aspect.

So to that extent, the AFP has formed new teams, the National Security Investigations teams, which are looking more towards those fringe elements that are working within society that are causing concern, but not actually meeting the threshold to have a look at where we can actively work in the preventative and disruptive space to dissuade some of those groups from some of their public behaviours.

Joel Davis: So, yeah, I mean, there’s a lot to break down there. Obviously you’ve seen the clip already, Blair.

 

I’ll say a few things. One, at the beginning he mentioned sovereign citizens. Obviously there was that recent occurrence in Victoria where Desi Freeman, the so-called sovereign citizen, I know they don’t like going by that term – that’s what the media and the police call them – where he killed two cops. Apparently the AFP is less concerned with people killing police officers than they are with us forming a political party because we might hurt people’s “feelings”. That’s quite incredible! He literally says in that spiel, that:

 

“He’s concerned about our behaviours which don’t meet the so-called criminal or violent threshold, but that we would disrupt so-called social cohesion.”

 

You know what disrupts social cohesion? Importing a bunch of niggers into my country! That’s what disrupts social cohesion! Deporting a bunch of sorry, importing a bunch of non-Whites of every different description into our country. That disrupts social cohesion. Because it means we don’t have a cohesive society because everyone is a different race. It’s pretty basic. They’re blaming us for pointing that out. It’s a total inversion of reality!

 

But yeah, now apparently it is now the police’s job to not worry about what crimes are. Not worry about people committing acts of violence, they’re less concerned about that. What they’re really concerned about is people trying to participate in liberal democracy who have opinions that differ from the status quo.

 

Blair Cottrell: Opinions that are “disturbing”. Not criminal, but disturbing. And they’re classified as such because they affect how people “feel” about social cohesion.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! So it’s just ridiculous! Obviously we have a constitution in this country that says we should have a representative democracy. Apparently the Australian people are sovereign. They get to elect their own leaders. Well, there’s an open admission there from the Australian Federal Police. They don’t actually believe in liberal democracy. They believe in this thing called “social cohesion”, which appears to be “White people being replaced and not getting upset about it”. That’s what they mean by social cohesion. Is that why people need to basically:

 

“Shut up and not complain about the fact that they are being genocided! The fact that we are being ethnocided!”

 

And if you complain about it, if you stand up against, if you try to form a political party and be political and follow the laws and don’t meet the threshold of criminality or violence, then the police are going to take it upon themselves, the Federal Police are going to take our tax dollars and then form special units that are going to disrupt that political party.

 

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I mean, this is clearly unconstitutional, illegal. This is like a communist country. It’s like they’re basically admitting that they’re like the Stasi*, they’re like the NKVD*. They are political police, whose primary responsibility is to uphold the political establishment, not prosecute crimes.

 

[* Stasi: Official state security service of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) The Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, was the state security service and secret police of East Germany from 1950 to 1990. The function of the Stasi in East Germany resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union, ⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Wikipedia]

 

[* The People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs, abbreviated as NKVD, was the interior ministry and secret police of the Soviet Union from 1934 to 1946. The agency was formed to succeed the Joint State Political Directorate secret police organisation, and thus had a monopoly on intelligence and state security functions. The NKVD is known for carrying out political repression and the Great Purge under Joseph Stalin, as well as counterintelligence and other operations on the Eastern Front of World War II. Prior organisation was the dreaded CHEKA.]

 

It’s quite an incredible admission. And what cowardice from the Australian Right-wing where basically none of them said anything about this. The only person who did that I saw were the New South Wales libertarians, like John Ruddick’s people in New South Wales as ideologically consistent libertarians. Ralph Babet said something and then deleted it, five to ten minutes later. He pussied out!

 

And no one else said anything. Probably because they’re partially happy that the Federal Police are going to fuck with us because they’re afraid that we’re going to take their voters away or something, that we’re going to come in and steal their spot! But it just kind of exposes the whole system for what it is! That these people who claim to be upholding democracy and all of this garbage, they don’t actually believe any of that it’s a total lie! It’s a total farce! And why are the Nazis at the forefront of free speech, democracy? Why are we the ones trying to uphold it? I mean, it’s a total inversion of the roles [chuckling] that are supposed to be denominated. But I think it’s an incredible story!

 

What’s your analysis, Blair? Like, what kind of tactics do you expect them to use because they said “disrupt”, they didn’t say they’re going to put it, … Obviously we don’t meet your threshold of criminality. They can’t stop us from forming a political party. They’ve got no legal recourse to do.

 

So I think some of the things that they’re doing probably is creating social media accounts and using them to spread misinformation about us, turn people against us, imitate us. We’ve seen a rise in fake NSN accounts online, causing dramas, a rise in accounts that seem like that all they do all day is just make posts about the NSN and how offended they are by us. And that’s the only thing that they post about. Who has time for that? You know, people usually have jobs and families and this kind of thing. So maybe it’s feds? Maybe it’s just all feds? A lot of these accounts.

 

What also they’re going to do probably frivolous lawsuits. We’ve had plenty of those. But yeah, other than making, basically doing psyops online and engaging with frivolous lawsuits, these are kind of the more obvious things. What else do you think they’re going to do, or are doing already?

 

Blair Cottrell: I suppose this explains why specialised teams of Federal Police officers have been raiding people across the country who are in any way, shape or form supportive of National Socialist Network or White Australia, raiding them on no evidence and trying to find some reason to set them up on charges. So this has probably been happening for a few months already. At least a few months.

 

And it’s really concerning because the term “disrupt”, when people in official politics use terms like “disrupt” and “dissuade”, that basically means anything. That means anything beneath the ostensible. And the ostensible must appear as legit. They have to act like they’re working within certain frameworks on the surface, but underneath the surface, that’s the realm of “disrupt and dissuade”. That’s like the tier of counterinsurgency. That’s literally anything, man! That’s anything they can get away with!

 

So that’s like a secret political police developing strategies to fuck with a specific group because they don’t want them forming a political party, and because they’re not actually doing anything criminal. I don’t think there’s any precedent for a Federal Police officer making that statement in Australian history. I can’t actually stress the significance of this is really fucked up! This basically means what I think this means, what it exposes to me is the Australian political system, the Liberal versus Labor voting system is extremely fragile. No one likes the Liberal Party and no one likes the Labor Party. They just kind of vote one way or the other based on traditional. And there’s no effective Third Position for people to vote their way out of that sequence, that never ending sequence of Liberal-Labour. There’s One Nation but they’re in bed with Israel. There’s the Greens, but they’re just communists.

 

So I think what they do, and I’ve said this before on previous streams, I think there’s like analysts within the government that run various scenarios through AI programs in order to estimate the effectiveness of a White Australia party. Meaning they run it through like a scenario system, a computerized AI system that’s going to give them answers based on the current political climate situation, based on the current environment:

 

“How many votes would a White Australia Party get if it was formed right now?”

 

And I think the answer is staggering! I think it’s really frightening them! I think they know that a White Australia Party could be like the next One Nation but bigger and cooler, younger, more exciting, more interesting. And because there is such a large silent White Australian voter base who can vote basically anonymously, I think it’s obvious that a lot of people would vote for White Australia Party right now! Not only is it new, fresh and exciting, it has its roots in tradition. And tradition is one of the pillars of power. You’ve got force, popularity and tradition.

 

And you’ve got to ask yourself what does the government have on its side right now in regards to those three pillars? Does the government have popularity? No! Does the government have tradition? It sort of pretends to observe tradition because it knows it has to in order to maintain power structure, but it’s actually trying to destroy Australian tradition and replace it with its own version of ceremonies and rituals, largely surrounding Aboriginal culture. Right?

 

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The only thing the government has on its side is force. It’s operating on a single pillar. Whereas a White Australia party would have popularity and tradition on its side. So already the government is at a disadvantage. Even though it has all the resources, the only real resource it can call upon to defend its current position is force, is violence! And BC beneath the tier of violence, such as disruption and dissuasion, right? Which is all manner of cloak and dagger activities.

 

So I think they’re really worried! And I think they know they have to nip the White Australia Party in the bud! And I think there’s nothing they won’t fucking do to achieve that.

 

So it’s very concerning. It’s really concerning that the Australian Federal Police are now being used as a bulwark, as attack dogs against a specific group of young people coming together to try to form their own political party legally. As you said, how is that democracy? That’s not fucking democracy! And it just exposes yet again that we don’t live in a fucking democracy! So I don’t really know what to expect.

 

Basically, it’s:

 

“Brace yourself, lads!”

 

That’s my feeling. And my analysis, my intuition’s been telling me for the last six months that things are going to get really ugly. Because I could see the potential for a White Australia party. I could see it a year ago and the potential is growing! It’s especially going to grow in, how should I put it? In reference to what’s going to happen in England. Things are starting to heat up in England and around the West, the rest of the world. In Europe you’re going to see similar situation and people in Australia are going to look for a way to vote themselves out of a similar fate. And if White Australia is all there is, they will vote for it! It’ll get millions of votes! It’ll explode out of the blocks, I think.

 

And I think that’s what this is all about. Yeah. So very concerning times ahead, is where I’ll wrap up my analysis.

 

Joel Davis: Concerning, but it’s also exciting! It’s very exciting because I think, as you said, if they thought that it was going to be a dud, if they thought that we weren’t capable of achieving anything, then they just let us do it. They’d be like:

 

“Let them go down this path.”

 

This is going to be a more neutral path and a safer path from their point of view. You would think, they would almost, like if they didn’t think anyone would vote for us why not let us go up there and embarrass ourselves?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, that’s the thing, Joel. You don’t really need to be very intelligent to succeed in politics. You just need to be consistent and simplistic. I don’t mean like intellectually simplistic necessarily. I mean you just need that one simple, easy to understand message. You need to ground yourself in some manner of tradition relative to the culture that you’re trying to persuade, you’re trying to represent, and you just need to be consistent. You just need to keep pushing, keep fighting and protect your reputation as much as possible.

 

It’s not really rocket science, politics you’re basically trying to persuade simpletons to tick a box that says your name next to it. [chuckling] It’s not really a difficult process. And because the circumstances, the environment right now in Australia is perfect for a new, young, exciting party to basically steal the show, the current power structure is developing political police tactics in response to that.

 

And I think it’s going to be so something that we’ve never seen before. I think it’s going to be something that Australia, there’s no precedent for in Australia. So as I said, it’s like a brace yourself situation and prepare to support each other.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but what I’ve also noticed is that Australian police are very incompetent, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What makes you say that specifically? Give me an example of Australian policing incompetence.

 

Joel Davis: Well, I would say the way that they handled, for example, Australia Day last year we were in Adelaide. I think all they did was create a sympathetic scenario for us that gained a lot of positive attention and they tried to engage in a legal strategy that has been ridiculously unsuccessful, and just basically de-legitimize themselves and make themselves look stupid and mishandle the whole process. They have not been effective in stopping us. The only move they were able to make against us was more recently against Sewell, putting him in jail. But you know, that was an unforced error by Sewell. Like running up the police didn’t make him do that, run up a hill in 4K and beat someone up.

 

So in terms of like their strategic designs, the sum total of the efforts over the last two years are basically added up to fuck all, in terms of actually, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what it’s worth. It’s worse than fuck all! If you are in the position where you consider NSN an enemy or even a nuisance for yourself as a police officer or something. If you’re in a government position where you command police officers, you’ve made the situation worse for yourself! It would have been better for the police to do nothing than to publicly and aggressively arrest people for trying to host an Australia Day march. Like obviously that’s going to win sympathy from the public. For the public who loves an underdog, Australians love to see someone struggling against authority. They love an underdog!

 

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So you’re kind of creating this hero class of people by policing in a manner as aggressive as that. So for them the situation is worse than zero. They’ve actually contributed to elevating you guys in. I think what’s really worried them is when you guys arrived at August 31, March for Australia rally, it was clear that you had support from the majority of the people there. Very clear! And people were doing interviews saying:

 

“They don’t even care if there’s Nazis here, as long as everyone’s united against immigration.”

 

And that means people won’t even care about voting for a Nazi party so long as it’s against immigration. You see, that’s what that translates into for any government analyst.

 

So I think that’s what’s triggered, … It’s one of the things that’s triggered this effort to create a new tier of political policing, which was already in the works before that anyway. But that really pushed it over the line because it would have proven their analysts correct if they had already ran the White Australia scenario through their AI sequencing. Then when they saw in real time people shaking hands with you guys, cheering you guys on, and just admitting in interviews that they’re willing to support you, like regular people, that kind of proved all the data they already would have been collecting. It proved it correct.

 

So that’s what’s motivating them, I think.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, the reason why people are supporting us is because they’re genociding the White race and people are waking up to it. I mean, it’s that simple. We’re actually behind the curve in this country from where it is in other Western countries.

 

I mean, I saw Lindsay Graham from the Republican Party giving an interview the other day, and he said:

 

“Oh, I’m from the ‘Hitler sucks’ faction of the Republican Party!”

 

He’s like:

 

“What how crazy is this thinking Hitler is awesome thing now?”

 

What is he implying? That there’s a Hitler is “awesome faction” of the Republican Party now? That’s crazy! Yeah, but there kind of is. And like the Overton Window has shifted so far the Zeitgeist, like the attitude of the people. And that’s largely down to social media, because what has happened with social media is the traditional media has lost its influence over the collective consciousness. There’s been a decentralisation of political media in particular.

 

And that means that jews don’t control political discourse anymore. And so jews and academics and all of these different, like, committed political groups that have advanced this agenda against our people. Now a more grassroots, a more independent form of political discourse exists. And so it will tend towards the authentic politics that we represent.

 

So what is coming? Like, where people are at now is already a lot better than where they were before. But what’s coming is way more than this! The next five to 10 years, there’s going to be an explosion in our worldview, particularly with young White people. An explosion! It’s inevitable and it can’t be stopped! Doesn’t matter how many laws they try to pass on censoring the Internet, how many divisions they create within the AFP to arrest anti-semites. It doesn’t matter, because they did all this stuff in Britain and it’s still happening in Britain!

 

I saw a opinion poll in Britain. If an election was held today in Britain, the conservatives and Labor between them would have like 29 seats out of a possible 650. That would be like if we were going to hold an election in Australia tomorrow and only three people were going to get elected from like Liberal and Labor. That’s literally where it’s at in Britain. The political centre has been eviscerated. And obviously the parties on the outside of that are still, they’re not perfect. They’re not what the kind of party we want to build.

 

But the point is that the old political formula has been smashed! It’s been fucking smashed in Britain! And it’s been smashed all over Europe and a new paradigm is rising and it will rise here, inevitably. Zoomers in America are more Right-wing than Boomers now. That’s insane! Like, no one was predicting this. Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson talking about the jews is like mainstream political discourse.

 

And then you’ve got like Ben Shapiro complaining about it on the corner of the Internet and no one’s watching anymore. That’s how it is now. No one’s watching the old jew media anymore. Everything’s different. Everyone’s Instagram algorithm is pumping out Hitler speeches at them. It’s become normal to talk about the jews now? It’s become normal to talk about these kinds of issues. And that’s just the start.

 

So when we come along and we bring a political party with the kind of policies that we’re going to put forward and the approach we’re going to be put forward, fuck yes, there’s a constituency for it! And they can throw the kitchen sink at us because we’ve already proven we will go to jail for this! If, I mean, we don’t want to go to jail, but if we have to, we have determination. We will sacrifice. We will continue pushing forward.

 

The Liberal Party isn’t going to go to jail to stay in the Liberal Party. The only people in the Liberal Party going to jail are the paedophiles that get caught. Like what happened to that guy the other day. Imagine if we had someone in our organisation, by the way, who got caught literally touching up a kid. They would call us paedophiles, right? Liberal Party literally just had that happen. Crickets! No one blames the Liberal Party.

 

But anyway, my point is this. The political establishment in this country is flimsy. It is weak. I’m not saying that we’re going to win an election anytime soon, but we are going to be a really disruptive force on this. And they can try and fuck with us, and they can try and put some of our guys in jail and they can make a nuisance of themselves. And I’m sure it will suck. I’m sure it will suck for me personally. It might suck for you personally, Blair, and a bunch of us, but we ain’t gonna fucking stop! And they’re not gonna kill us. I said this I think last. Do you agree with this take? They’re not like the communists of old. The communists of old would fucking shoot us. They’d just fucking kill us! These are fucking soft, they’re not gonna do that.

 

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Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but there’s different standards now. It’s that there’s modern ways of being burned at the stake where it’s not really effective to kill. When you kill your enemies, especially in politics, you actually embolden your enemy further and you win more sympathizers for your enemy by how cruel your conduct is. And sort of factions within politics have worked that out these days. And plus, we live in this post violence era. Violence will always be a thing. It’s an eternal aspect of the world, our reality. But the era that we’re in right now is a post violence era, where everything except violence is basically permissible. Like, even down to the dirtiest, darkest tactics, so long as you’re not being outrightly violent, it’s all well and good!

 

And so, yeah, even though they won’t kill you, as I said, there’s modern ways for them to publicly burn you alive and sort of torture you, humiliate you in a political way. And that’s what you’ve got to be worried about, basically.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it’s not as bad. They’re not going to kill us. So it’s like we grit and bear it. You know what I mean? It’s not the like, it’s bearable. Like this is not an enemy that you should be that afraid of:

 

“Oh, maybe if you work in one field where you will lose your job or something.”

 

Blair Cottrell: You say they won’t kill you too. How can you be so sure? I saw some information that Charlie Kirk may have been killed by some sort of mechanism that shot up out of the microphone he was wearing. That might sound a bit conspiratorial, but when I saw the footage, even I had to admit, sounds pretty weird! Do you think it’s possible that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by like an organised political effort by an overseas country?

 

Joel Davis: It’s not that it’s impossible! Like it’s possible, but I don’t think any of these theories about it was a mechanism on his body, blah, blah, blah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Have you seen the footage?

 

Joel Davis: If someone else was involved, they would have just like groomed a tranny to do it.

 

And then you’ve got the, like, they would like the way that it was described. Like it’s within the power of the intelligence agencies in America or in Israel or whatever to groom trannies into committing political assassinations or tranny fuckers nto political assassinations.

 

So I don’t think you need to have this elaborate:

 

“Oh, there was a device!”

 

You know, know all this kind of stuff. I don’t know why. We’ve talked about this before on the show. I don’t know what we’re going back to this.

 

Blair Cottrell: But I was just thinking about, because you said that’s the thing, …

 

Joel Davis: If they’re going around killing everyone who disagrees, why are they’re killing Charlie Kirk? Charlie Kirk was a fucking moderate! They’re not killing Nick Fuentes! They’re not killing like more radical voices. They’re killing the more moderate ones. That doesn’t even make any sense. Since Charlie Kirk has died, things have only become more anti-Israel, more racist, more radical! So you know, what the whole like, theory around it, …

 

Blair Cottrell: For the record, I don’t actually believe anything I’m putting forward here. I’m just saying that I saw that stuff on the Internet and a lot of people seem to believe it, but I was only throwing you something contrarian because you were suggesting they won’t kill you. Like these people won’t kill you.

 

But I think there’s some evidence they, …

 

Joel Davis: If they kill me one day, they’re going to turn me into a martyr and make me more popular!

 

Blair Cottrell: Israeli intelligence, yeah, definitely would kill you! But I think you have to be a pretty significant threat or you have to be projected to become a pretty significant threat for them to start considering that. Because, as I said, they run the risk of making you into a martyr and actually just building their opponent up even more.

 

But now we’re going full circle back to what I was talking about before.

 

Joel Davis: You’re doing like little haphazard killings is always counterproductive. You have to kill everyone. You just knock off a few people all you do is turn them into heroes and embolden the rest of them to get revenge and to kind of move forward. So, they’re not gonna kill every nationalist in Australia. There’s no one is shaping up seriously to do that it’s not going to happen. And they are creating obstacles.

 

Like, for example, there’s a lot of people that have not signed up on our website to be a political supporter. A lot of them is sheer laziness. And I know there’s a lot of the you lazy fucks that are listening to this right now, …

 

Blair Cottrell: When you say, …

 

Joel Davis: Wait a second, I want to say something. If you’re one of these lazy fucks that hasn’t signed up to our political party out of laziness, do it tonight! Do it now! Literally do it right now! You can do it while you’re listening to this or watching this, go to White Australia.org, sign up as a political supporter! If it’s just laziness holding you back, particularly if you live in New South Wales, because, that’s actually the key state where we need quick signups at the moment because, …

 

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Blair Cottrell: What are you asking people to do? Because I don’t understand. What are you asking people to do when you say sign up as a political supporter, what does that mean? What are you asking?

 

Joel Davis: It means basically you, … We have an encrypted database, right, that you basically import your details into on our website. It is highly encrypted. We do not want anyone getting doxed and they won’t! It’s a highly encrypted database that you know is not going to be breached.

 

Blair Cottrell: But what information do you need? What information?

 

Joel Davis: Your basic details. Your name, address. But it has to be what your electoral role address where you’re enrolled to vote. And we can send that off to the Australian Electoral Commission to then say, we’ve got enough members of our party to register the party.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t mean to be, … Maybe it’s not the right question, but I’ll ask it anyway. Do you trust the Australian Electoral Commission?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I mean, yeah, they’ve never leaked anything like this before. So there’s privacy laws. It’s like the cops know, like ASIO know who all of you are! They can figure out every single person who watches one of these streams on their phone or something. They can figure out who you are. Right.

 

So you’re already on a list that the government can access, but they don’t just publish it. That’s not how it works. And it’s not going to be how it works. So people need to fucking chill. It’s never been like that and never will be like that.

 

Secondly, how the fuck are we going to do anything unless we build a political vehicle in order to advance our ideology, our worldview, our position with the Australian public? So if that means you have to take a little bit of risk, obviously it’s not really much of a risk. We are protecting your ass! We’re not asking you to put on the black block and go march in the street, yell “hail victory”. Just asking you to sign up to a political party. And there’s legal protections. You’ll be fine. And we’ve encrypted our databases.

 

But yes, that’s the small sacrifice you have to make of spending two minutes inputting your correct details into our website so that we can go and register a political party and perhaps get thrown in jail! We’ll deal with all the difficult shit for you! All you have to do is just sign the paper, put the fries in the bag. That’s all you got to do. So just do it! Particularly if you’re in New South Wales.

 

And then also don’t just do it yourself. Go to your friends, go to your family and get them to do it. Get them to do it as well. Get as many people as you possibly can to do it! We need as many members as possible. The more members we have, the more momentum. Like even once we reach the minimum thresholds, the more members, the better. And they’re going to audit the members. Some people are going to move house or have put in the wrong details or whatever.

 

And so we’re going to need to have a glut of members, like I’ve explained before. It’s such a minimal thing. That’s such a minimal ask. It’s a really minimal ask!

 

Blair Cottrell: I noticed someone in your organisation, one of the leaders I saw through Noticer News tried to register “White Australia” as a business entity through like some sort of government business or like regulatory board.

 

And the response from this board was that the term “White Australia” because it meant White ethnically, the registration request was rejected on that basis because it was like offensive or something.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that was to register a corporation. That wasn’t to register a party.

 

Blair Cottrell: I know that. My question is, has there been any progress with that? Because I know that that same board accepted a registration request from Black Lives Matter and registered them as a corporation, but they said no to White Australia because of the term White. But they didn’t have a problem with the term “black”. I wonder if there’s been any update with any response.

 

Joel Davis: We just registered under a different name. We couldn’t be, there’s an appeals process, but we just couldn’t be fucked with it because it doesn’t really matter that much.

 

Blair Cottrell: It would have been a good test because you’re probably gonna get the same response from the AEC.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you know what would be an even better test? Building the fucking party!

 

So that’s why we’re focusing on that rather than dicking around, on arguing over registering corporations and stuff, because it’s a side issue, you know what I mean? But because a lot of people said:

 

“Oh, you can’t have your party because of that!”

 

It was like, it was almost like we shouldn’t have like put that out there because people don’t read past the headline and it confuses people. But they won’t be able to block the political party on those grounds because the Electoral Act doesn’t give them the same kind of leeway and the Constitution doesn’t give them the same kind of leeway on political parties, that they have with corporations.

 

And I think we would have won the appeal on the corporation, but it would have cost thousands of bucks and it would have taken a while and, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It would have said a precedent though too. So then you could have used the same argument with the aec. That’s what I was thinking.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, we can look into, we can look into still doing it down the track, but it becomes a bit of a drawn out process anyway.

 

But when it comes to the party, like people just need to sign up! In New South Wales election is in March 2027. There’s a Victorian state election I think next November and then the following March in 2027 is the new South Wales election. So it’s some time away. It’s like a year until the Victorian election and then a year and four months till the New South Wales election and then the following year we’ll have the next federal election. Those are the three elections we’ve got our eye on. WA doesn’t have an election for years. Queensland doesn’t have an Upper House and so it’s less worth focusing on.

 

And the other states are kind of irrelevant, to be honest, not fully irrelevant, but they’re kind of irrelevant in terms of the national conversation. So Victoria, New South Wales are the two main, two biggest states, the two states where we have the most members and the two that we wanted to target first as a political party.

 

But in Victoria you only need 500 Victorian members in order to contest their state elections. And so that’s going to be a lot easier for us in Victoria. In New South Wales it’s 750. And in New South Wales, if you’re not, if you’re not registered a year prior to the election, you can’t get listed on the ballot paper.

 

Additionally, New South Wales, we probably have a better chance at actually getting someone elected than in Victoria, not because we’d get a higher percentage of the vote necessarily in one state or the other, but because of the system. So in New South Wales, like John Ruddick got elected off like 3% of the vote because New South Wales, they don’t have group voting. It’s more like kind of the Senate election in the federal election is kind of the same in the New South Wales state election.

 

Whereas in the Victorian state election they break the Upper House down into eight zones, three regional zones and five metro zones. And the top five from each of those zones get elected.

 

But the thing is that in Victoria, in the state election when you., … That seems like a good system, you just have to come fifth in your zone and you can get in. That doesn’t sound so hard. But and we probably could still do this. But the more difficult aspect of it is that in Victoria people usually don’t vote below the line and preference all of the different parties, they just put a vote above the line and then they get automatic preferencing. So we would have to do preference deals with all these other parties and get them to preference us high in order to get all their preferences. And it’d be really difficult because we’re Nazis and they’re probably not going to work with us. Who knows? We can cut some deals but it might be hard.

 

In New South Wales cutting the deals isn’t the same level of difficulty because there is an automatic preferencing in how people vote. So in New South Wales in theory we will get more preferences, you would think. So that’s why we really want to be registered to contest this election in New South Wales.

 

So if you live in New South Wales, sign the fuck up! ! We are desperate, and do it immediately because I would really much like it if we can get above the line that election, it would be great! But I’m going to stop talking about that. I know people are probably annoyed at me yammering on about that.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, we’re never annoyed about your yammering, Joel! Yammer away!

 

Joel Davis: I guess that’s what the show is. That’s literally why we’re here.

 

Blair Cottrell: But well you mentioned Remembrance Day, …

 

Joel Davis: Because people, Australians, one thing about us, and I’m like this too, we’re fucking lazy! We can’t be fucked as a people.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know if, would you say we’re lazy?

 

Joel Davis: We work hard, but when it comes to like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I think we’re more, we’re a bit black pilled on politics. I think that’s what it is. I just don’t think we like politics. Australians have a general disinterest. They don’t think there’s any hope. They think it’s all bullshit!

 

Joel Davis: That’s true. But also people are fucking lazy. People are fucking lazy in terms of doing it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Mental laziness that leads people to think this stuff too. Because politics is made to seem a lot more complicated than it really is. At the end of the day it’s just when you’ve got a homogenous society it’s different ideas competing, usually economic ideas and then there’s a few subversives in there trying to fuck your country up. If you have a good intelligence system it prevents that from happening.

 

We don’t have a homogenous society anymore. We have a multi-ethnic society. And so all politics is now is different ethnic groups trying to get an advantage over each other. It’s just different ethnic groups and some ethnic groups, namely the White ethnic group that’s currently in Parliament is working against its own ethnic interests. Generally speaking. And it’s happening in England, it’s happening in Europe. As soon as society becomes multi-ethnic political politics becomes racial. It’s just different racial groups battling each other to try to get an advantage or to try to put the other group at a disadvantage. And it’s really that simple. There’s Nothing else to consider in politics right now!

 

So you mentioned Remembrance Day, though, and I was curious, what would I call them? People from Sydney, New South Walers. What do people in New South Wales do for Remembrance Day? What do you do? Is there somewhere in the city that everyone goes?

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, we don’t really have, like a massive shrine, like in Melbourne, which I mean, I was in Melbourne for the last two Remembrance Days and so I was able to go to the Shrine of Remembrance, which is better.

 

Blair Cottrell: But what about Hyde Park, there’ a big stone structure?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In Hyde Park, there is a big War Memorial.

 

So there’s something, but it’s just not as impressive as the temple, basically, that exists in Melbourne to the Anzacs, which is probably the most magnificent building in Australia. But we can talk about Remembrance Day next week because that’ll be the week of the show. I really want to talk about.

 

Blair Cottrell: I just want to say something about it.

 

Joel Davis: Oh, okay. Okay, go ahead.

 

Blair Cottrell: The date November 11th is significant for a couple of reasons. Ned Kelly was hanged on November 11th. And I’m pretty sure the Berlin Wall came down on November 11th as well, I mean, that’s not necessarily pivotal for Australia, but it’s definitely a pivotal moment in European history. I’ll just say a lot of significant stuff happens in November, and November 11th, like there’s this whole list of weird shit that happens on November 11th. I don’t know if anyone knows any more about that than I do, but if you’re into that kind of stuff, hit me up because I’m interested to learn more about the strange occurrences that always seem to take place throughout November.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I don’t know what are you alleging, what’s going to happen?

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know, it’s something to do with the stars, man! I’m telling you. Usually radical change, violent change, or just something really significant tends to be happening throughout November, historically speaking. And I don’t know why that is. Someone might have a better idea as to why that is. I’m not really talking from a numerological perspective. I’m not into numerology at all! But, yeah, I’m just throwing it out there. It’s always made me feel a bit weird about my birthday, too. It’s just like:

 

“Oh, God, what’s going to happen to me?”

 

Cukg Time will tell!

 

Joel Davis: But, yeah, on the party, I’ve been working a bit on the policies that we’re going to have and we haven’t put them out yet because it’s one thing that Tom can actually have some input in from jail. So send him some a draught and we’ll see what he thinks. He might have a few different ideas so we can at least work together on something even though he’s in prison.

 

But a few of the ideas that I’ve had, I mean, we’ve spoken about some of them on the show. Some of the policies that we agreed upon, like debt forgiveness and mother’s allowance and executing paedophiles and things like that. But a few others.

 

I was going to get your takes on some of my ideas Blair, of policies here or some of our ideas.

 

Blair Cottrell: You care what I think?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course.

 

Blair Cottrell: Let’s do it!

 

Joel Davis: Of course. So one idea for a policy that is oh so necessary is pretty basic, but just got to have restoring free speech in the platform. Now some people will call me a cuck. They’ll say:

 

“Why are you trying to restore free speech? Why are we trying to give free speech to communists and brown people?”

 

Now, yes, from an ideological standpoint, I don’t agree with giving free speech to everyone because I don’t believe in giving free speech to my political enemies. But considering the fact that it’s our speech that is being rejected, not theirs, I think tactically it makes sense to advocate for restoring free speech because it’s really only our speech that’s under threat.

 

So there’s that. Another policy area that we think is very important because we don’t have too many. We have like 10 policies and just call it there and keep it simple. Because as you said, Australians aren’t going to bother to read 50 policies and have opinions on them. But another policy is, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I do think free speech is dangerous because that makes you receptive to enemy ideology.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the enemy ideology already has freedom. Our ideology is the one that’s restricted.

 

Blair Cottrell: So basically you want to reverse the current circumstances.

 

Joel Davis: At least level the playing field. I think that’s the right tactical decision. But yeah, well, maybe you don’t. Should we run on taking away communist speech or something? I don’t know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, no, I just think just certain there just should be agencies dedicated to counter subversion.

 

So like if you’re identified as a subversive unit group ideology, then you don’t have many rights basically. And that can be abused, that kind of policy. So there would need to be some sort of oversight in place to prevent it from being misused. That’s the thing that we had ASIO, which is Australia’s version of like a security agency. Would it be the Australian version of FBI Joel? Is that accurate to say?

 

Joel Davis: It’s like NSA, FBI? Yeah, it’s like a few agencies in America mixed together.

 

[52:08]

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, subversion or working against subversive tactics was part of ASIO’s definition of state security before the Hawk Labor government, I think up until around 1989, around the year of my birth, somewhere around there perhaps. But the Hawk Labor government actually put ASIO to the test because they accused them of using the term “subversion” to intrude upon the freedoms of certain groups and personalities.

 

And so the Hawk Labor government removed “subversion” from ASIO’s definition of state security and replaced it with “politically motivated violence”. So I’ve spoken about that a few times because I think that was a real pivotal moment in Australia’s history because we had a state that was making some effort to prevent hostile ideology from taking root in institutions like schools, police departments, government agencies.

 

But that was all just removed by the Hawk Labor government. And instead our national security or intelligence agencies were refocused on just violence. As though pushing people around in the street because of ideology is more of a threat to the nation than teaching kids transgenderism and communism. You know, obviously subversive ideology is more of a threat than direct violence a lot of the time.

 

So I think that was one of the greatest mistakes any government has made in Australian history.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that leads to the next policy which is like restoring patriotic education. Like getting rid of all anti-White garbage out of every level of education, including the universities, and restoring pro-Australian, pro-White version of how history is taught and also compulsory martial arts for all boys. Because I think we need to become a nation of fighters. That’s our education policy. I think if you fix it, the level of education, just regulate education correctly.

 

Blair Cottrell: You can’t run a nation on love. You can only run nations on hate. Like the current civilisation is run on hatred of White people.

 

So if you reverse that situation where suddenly White people are no longer the hated enemy which unifies all of multicultural society, who’s the new enemy? Who are we united against?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we’re not going to like create an education policy of like, we’re going to build an education policy of fuck jews, and make like anti-semitism, [chuckling] like official government like that, I mean, it’s probably not a smart angle. Like the Left didn’t do that. The Left appealed first to free speech and to equality and so on, first.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but that’s boring now. The reason conservative elements of society are failing right now is because appealing to all of this moral goodness is fucking boring! ! And we’ve got a desensitized youth who are looking for more edgy messaging. And Hitler sold anti-semitism to people openly and they took it.

 

Joel Davis: You can sell it to people openly like a political strategy.

 

But in terms of like, I mean, the point is that like the education system is basically penetrated or just like overwhelmed with anti-White ideology, like a genocidal ideology against our people. Basically. It just needs to be like reversed.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but the point still stands like within that edgy. You’re saying the Leftists are being crafty. They’re not really like, you go into a university and they’re like:

 

“White people are responsible for all the fucked up stuff in the world.”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what I mean? Like you want to change it to:

 

“Jewish people are responsible for all the suffering of the nations.”

 

Like you want to flip that.

 

So the whole mantra of the education department would replace the enemy of society. It’s currently White people. It would need to be someone else, is the point that I’m making, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean patriots have many enemies. So like the historical enemies of patriots have been jewish subversion.

 

I mean, you talk about ASIO, the reason why ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] came into existence in the first place was because jews immigrated here from Eastern Europe after World War II and they were communists, because all jews in Eastern Europe were communists at that time, basically.

 

That’s why they all had to be put in camps during the Second World War, which was against communists, by the Germans.

 

But anyway, they started stealing. They started infiltrating our government and stealing state secrets and giving them to the Soviet Union. That’s why they had to create ASIO to create a barrier. They never even needed to have something like ASIO before World War II because our country was so homogenous that there just weren’t any traitors. So there was no traitors to deal with. [chuckling] That’s the power of a homogeneous society, what it can achieve.

 

But yeah. What do you think about compulsory martial arts for all boys? I think that’s a good policy. I think we need it.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s okay. I always said that you should give people a choice because forcing all people through the same pipeline doesn’t always produce, …

 

Joel Davis: Children don’t get choices. Children get forced into all kinds of shit! Children don’t get a choice:

 

“Hey, would you like to learn how to read? Would you like, . ?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, no, no, the choice is pretty, like it’s not that much different. I always thought, and I’ve had you disagree with me on this before. I thought you should be able to choose between two years military service or an apprenticeship in a specific trade such as carpentry, bricklaying, plumbing, something like that.

 

So you’re either demonstrating yourself as useful to defend the country as part of a huge reserve army, you know how to use weapons, et cetera, and you’ve also had your mind and body hardened by the military training. Or if you don’t want to do it’s not your thing, you can learn a valuable skill and become useful to the nation in that way. You don’t have to do it. You can do your apprenticeship and then choose to go into university or do something else. But I’ve always thought or said you shouldn’t be able to become a citizen until you complete two years military service or complete a trade. That’s what I think.

 

[58:10]

 

 

Joel Davis: I agree with compulsory military training. I don’t agree with people being forced to do a trade.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s because you’ve never done an apprenticeship. You don’t know how tough it can be. It’s tough on your mind and stuff on your body.

 

Joel Davis: I did, I was a locksmith apprentice, once upon a time.

 

Blair Cottrell: A locksmith? Did you? Yeah, but you need to do some time on the shovel, Joel! You need to dig some trenches!

 

Joel Davis: I’ve worked in construction, I’ve done my time on the shovel. I’ve worked in landscaping.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay. When did you do that?

 

Joel Davis: In Sydney, when I was younger.

 

Blair Cottrell: But like, then you got to understand the value, right? Like, it’s great to have soldiers, but you’ve got to have people who can actually produce something, who can build, who can plumb, who can wire a house.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, everyone’s going to do that anyway. Everyone’s going to get a job anyway. The, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s not true, though. No. People don’t get a job unless they have to.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, you do have to. How are you going to get money?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, right now the government will give you money for being a retard!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, obviously we’re going to do something about that. We can’t have 18% of the country on NDIS or whatever it is. Like, it’s ridiculous!

 

Blair Cottrell: Look, all I say, I’m a big advocate of learning a trade. Even if you don’t stick with it. To me is of equal value to learning how to defend the country with like real military.

 

Joel Davis: Objectively, not of equal value if you’re at war. Obviously nothing is more valuable.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, obviously. Well, not necessarily because you still need amenities, you still need transport.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course, I’m not saying that being a tradie is bad or something, but what I’m saying is if you got a kid who’s going to become a lawyer or something, we don’t need to be a tradie first.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, no. I think it’s about character building in that case. So even if he never becomes a bricklayer, if he does three years bricklaying before he goes to university to learn to become a lawyer, he’s learnt about the grit, the reality, the harshness of reality through three years of bricklaying, which is hard labour, right? Not just the labour itself, but the way you’re treated by the guys who you’re going to be working under. It builds character.

 

Joel Davis: Everyone be a bricklayer?

 

Blair Cottrell: But look, think. Have you ever played a strategy game like Warcraft 3, for example, back when it first came out? You can’t do anything without the worker unit. You can’t build soldiers without the worker unit. You can’t mine minerals without the worker unit. The worker unit is the beginning of everything. Building strong workers with good spirit, good character is, I think, it’s possibly even more valuable than having soldiers.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what I think is that when it comes to compulsory military service, I don’t think that people should be forced to serve in foreign wars. We should only ever, and that’s actually in the Constitution. You can’t conscript people to fight foreign wars under the current Australian constitution. The only pretext for conscription would be if Australia was like, invaded and we were like fighting a war of national survival.

 

Blair Cottrell: And that’s the benefit of having like mandatory military.

 

Joel Davis: But you could still force everyone to train for a year. They wouldn’t have to get deployed, but you could at least make everyone train so everyone knows how to use a gun. Everyone knows how to, …

 

Blair Cottrell: But that’s the point. But then if Australia does get invaded, if everyone’s done, two years military service in order to achieve citizenship.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’ve at least trained a huge reserve army of like everyone who knows how to use a gun.

 

Joel Davis: If every boy in Australia grows up doing martial arts, grows up doing combat sports, then they go and do their military service, then you’ve just got an entire nation of fucking beasts! You know what I mean? Everyone can fight. And then your baseline is so much higher than any other country at that point. That, to me, that’s going to be our policies.

 

Blair Cottrell: But did you do martial arts?

 

Joel Davis: Being bricklayers, that’s a bit extremist for me. I’m too moderate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on! I think I explained my case pretty well. I’m surprised that you don’t agree!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I just don’t think you need to force people into particular fields in the economy. I think people can pursue their own career path, obviously if they’re doing nothing. But everyone doesn’t have to do a trade.

 

Blair Cottrell: My perspective is one of the reasons we have a lot of the problems we have is because we have weak people in positions of leadership and they wouldn’t be weak if they did a trade when they were young.

 

[1:02:41]

 

Joel Davis: Well, I know plenty of tradies who are soft cunts! So I don’t know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like these days they work differently, I suppose. Maybe it’s just the way I was worked.

 

Joel Davis: But like, also, there’s different trades too. Like I said, if you’re a Sparky [electrician], like, you just walk around just plugging things in. It’s not really that hard.

 

Blair Cottrell: You still crawl around inside ceilings, underneath houses, occasionally have to dig around in, …

 

Joel Davis: In like in awkward spaces. Like, how’s that special? Like, I don’t know.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re providing electricity to the community. It’s very special.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, they get paid well. Sparkies get paid well. But we don’t need to make everyone be a Sparky to like have a society or something like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know. I think we have a very spoiled generation who just think that things just happen! They think that guns just get made and buildings just. Lights just turn on and shit just works because that’s how things have always been for them. But when the shit hits the fan, man, you’re gonna need to have a lot of maintenance men. You’re gonna need some men who know how to build shit and maintain shit! Otherwise no one’s gonna know even where to start.

 

Joel Davis: You know, Australia has one of the highest, I think we have like the second highest builders per capita of like any country in the world.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, they’re all going broke right now too, like it’s hard, hard times out there because we’re bringing in a lot of foreign people who are undercutting local builders but then producing really shit houses!

 

Joel Davis: Garbage! Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: And yeah, people just getting ripped off and going broke left, right and centre. You have to be a pretty reputable builder with a good reputation to survive out there. I heard that Matt Trihey, who’s still a builder and runs a protest group called National Workers Alliance in Melbourne, he was on with Graham on Offaly Offensive podcast, I heard. And hopefully they discuss a little about what it’s like to be a builder currently out there. Because I haven’t been in construction for a few years now and I’m not sure how the building situation actually looks with boots on the ground from that perspective. Hopefully they talk about it.

 

Joel Davis: So speaking of Matt, because obviously Matt took over the Melbourne wing of the March for Australia, and the next March for Australia he’s going to be heading up Melbourne again, I believe. There’s been some interesting developments in March for Australia world that I’m privy to.

 

What I’ve heard is that, and what I’ve seen, is that the Brisbane March for Australia people have now broken away. They’ve created their own website which is actually a couple months old, which indicates that this is premeditated, called Australiamarches.com or some shit like that! And they’re stealing the branding of March for Australia but at the same time separating themselves and saying:

 

“Oh, we’re not racist, and we’re not Nazis!”

 

And so on. And they’re trying to cuck everything out and they’re separated themselves from the rest of the March for Australia around the country. Because people who were paying attention would have noticed that in Brisbane, March for Australia turned into a bit of a cuck fest. Like in the first one, they had like some Indian guy give a song speech at a mass immigration rally. And then basically it just seems like the last one was just like all these politicians back to back to back giving speeches as like campaign pitches. And like the idea of March for Australia was supposed to be this like grassroots nationalist uprising against mass immigration. And in Brisbane they’ve kind of moderated the message:

 

“Oh, patriotism has nothing to do with racism!”

 

And here’s 3 [6] million speeches from politicians. And there was disputes. The national March for Australia team wanted to ban Gerard Rennick from giving a speech at the last one because he came out the week before the rally kind of with all these pro-immigration comments. We discussed it on the last stream, but he was allowed to speak anyway. He didn’t even mention immigration. There’s an anti-immigration rally. He didn’t even mention immigration because these organisers up in Brisbane have gone their own way.

 

And so that’s interesting because now that I guess there’s going to be a bit of a dispute between two different factions. The people in Sydney, the people in Melbourne, in other cities, are a lot more radical than the people up in Brisbane. It feels like in Brisbane there’s like this big conservative scene. Brisbane has become kind of the capital of conservatism in Australia. You know, like all the Right, the kind of smaller Right-wing parties are kind of based there, it seems, and they have CPAC there and it’s like the heartland of the Liberal Party and all of that. And there’s a lot of all White Boomers who moved up to Queensland and it’s a Whiter state, it’s an older state, it’s got a lot of conservative voters.

 

Whereas like in Sydney and Melbourne it’s gone Left-wing, there’s a lot of immigrants, there’s a lot of Lefties. But then the Right-wing is a lot more nationalist and a lot more radical. It’s kind of polarised. Whereas like in Brisbane it’s just like a conservative, you know, hug box.

 

[1:07:54]

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s funny, is that things need to be worse, things need to be pretty bad before people stop trying to be the nice conservative guy and just accept the fight for what it is like I heard Elon Musk on Joe Rogan Show recently. There was a clip of him and he was saying that:

 

“There is no perfect way to do deportations. That if you’re seeking perfection, it won’t happen.”

 

What he means by that is if you’re trying to be nice about deportations because they were talking about how there’s a conspiracy within the Democrat Party in Australia [America] to bring in as many illegals as possible because then they then count those votes through some voter fraud system. And that’s how they’re trying to keep themselves in power or regain power in that country’s system. And Musk was saying that deporting illegals is basically the main priority of the Trump administration because that’s one of the ways they can prevent the Democrats from leveraging that whole corrupt system to gain power, the illegal immigration system.

 

But anyway, he was saying that if you’re going to try to be like morally good, to be the nice guy and perfect how deportations happen, it just won’t happen! You’ve just got to like literally grab people and remove them. You’ve got to be mean, you’ve got to be nasty. You’ve got to understand that this is like an attack on your country.

 

And there’s a similar situation with conservatives in Australia where no one’s willing to just “be mean”. No one’s willing to understand that this is a fight for our survival. Right. It’s like everyone’s still trying to be the nice guy:

 

“I don’t want to say anything mean. I don’t upset those people over there.”

 

And I suppose things are still that way in Brisbane because things just aren’t bad enough in Brisbane yet? Come down and stay in Melbourne for a couple of months and you’ll realise how concern like bullshit trying to be the nice guy is. You realise how much of a waste of time it is trying to not be racist and not upset those people over there. It’s just that time is done down here in Melbourne! It’s done in Sydney as well! But I suppose Brisbane still needs to arrive at that realisation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s part of it. I think that’s part of it. But also what’s part of it, I think, is that the institutional strength of the Right-wing there is such that they’ve kind of hijacked things. Before the first March for Australia, there were people that were behind the scenes trying to get involved and they wanted to bring in people from the One Nation Party and bring in people from this Right-wing minor party and that Right-wing minor party. And that’s one of the reasons why the NSN stuck our nose in it because we were like:

 

“No, fuck off!”

 

Because we had to secure it from being kind of watered down and turned into, just like a campaign opportunity for all these politicians. It’s not about the politicians, it’s about the rest of us! It’s about the fact that the politicians have failed us. It’s about the fact that there are no good politicians. We’re trying to create a new generation that could provide an alternative.

 

But the establishment is complicit. Even the Right-wingers that are somewhat better are still complicit because they haven’t offered anywhere near enough of a resistance, a meaningful enough of a resistance. That’s why March for Australia came into existence because no one was, I guess other than us, was doing it! Was saying what needed to be said anyway.

 

Of course they saw the numbers swell and the opportunity to gain legitimacy and whatever. And so then they started jumping on it late. But then they said:

 

“Oh but if you want, we’ll bring in money so you can have security and big stages and good speakers and like a speaker system and everything. But in order to get our A list speakers to give speeches, we can’t have the Nazis there and we can we can’t say things this way and we can’t say things that way and everything has to be toned down.”

 

And they were all told:

 

“To get fucked!”

 

But the people who kind of played ball were the guys in Brisbane. The guys in Brisbane were the ones that played ball with those types. And now it’s basically been a conspiracy to usurp not just the March for Australia Brisbane, but I think they want to try and take the whole thing. They’re not going to be able to.

 

Blair Cottrell: Unfortunately for them it’s not speakers and better electrical equipment that’s spark political upheaval and even revolutionary politics. It’s personalities.

 

So I don’t think the Liberal Party can produce the personalities to actually keep the March for Australia going. But is it the Liberal Party that’s actually doing this? Are they behind that?

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think it’s a Liberal Party. I think it’s the conservative establishment, let’s say.

 

Blair Cottrell: Who is that? And is that like all the T-shirt salesmen?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, there’s a series of influencers. People that are associated, on the fringes of Sky News, people that are associated with all these different One Nation, these other political parties, the Andrew Hastie wing of the Liberal Party, that whole spectrum. The professional protesters who are always doing protests all the time, the well oiled machine protesters that every time there’s an issue they pop up and try and do, … The people that were doing the September 13, a lot of the people involved in that this is what I’m talking about. There’s a whole kind of like industry. It’s nowhere near as big as it is in America, thank God, but there’s an industry of like professional conservatism, let’s say, that’s not in the Liberal Party. It’s like outside it. And sometimes there’s a cross pollination with it. And it’s those people and, …

 

[1:13:29]

 

Blair Cottrell: They’ll kill it, won’t they? If they do get control of it.

 

Joel Davis: We’re not going to be able to win this by being nice. That’s what they wanted. They want to nice guy our way to it.

 

Blair Cottrell: They don’t want to win it, though. They probably don’t want to win it. They probably just want to get control of it, leverage it, milk it for all it’s worth, or whatever they can get from it until it dies. That’s it!

 

And it will die in their hands. Because they just don’t know how to handle that kind of like, they see it as a marketing opportunity. They see it as a way to make some money. They see it as a way to divert some votes here and there, and that’s it. And that’s what they’ll do. They’ll just milk it for that purpose. They won’t see the energy, they won’t see the potential. They won’t use that energy for anything truly revolutionary, truly meaningful, to create an upheaval, to create a counterculture, to build momentum for a great change, like for a great purpose, which is going to change politics somehow. It’s just like:

 

“All right, how can we make some money out of these people? How can we sort of divert their votes in a direction which is favourable to our sponsors? And then how can we just move on after that and wipe our hands clean of it?”

 

That will be the conservative approach, the merchant approach to the March for Australia.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the “Merch for Australia”. So Brisbane is going to turn into grifter slop garbage, unfortunately. But Sydney and Melbourne, I think Perth and the other cities should stay solid. So for this is for Australia Day, of course, the next one is on Australia Day [Jan 26, 2026]. And that I remember when the idea of doing the August 31st March came up. Part of what made me excited to do it was thinking two steps ahead. Not just that it in of itself would be a great day and that it would be a powerful expression of national sentiment and so on. But I was thinking if that is a success, then you can then leverage that to then call the patriots back out on Australia Day. Because of course, everyone remembers what happened last Australia Day. Last Australia Day, we did our march in Adelaide. We had our national conference in Adelaide, you know, at the beginning of the year. And we were mass arrested for trying to celebrate our national holiday.

 

Meanwhile, you know, every city in Australia has these huge Invasion Day communist-Aboriginal fuck Australia, fuck White people protests! And it’s just outrageous! It’s outrageous that our cities get overrun by that every year on our national holiday. And there’s no proper celebration of our national holiday that Australia is under attack.

 

Blair Cottrell: How is that not disfavorable to social cohesion? It’s like you guys are the only thing affecting or having any sort of negative effect on how people feel about the state of social cohesion in Australia. But having like, what are they, what are they? These rallies against like Australia Day Invasion Day protests with people holding signs saying Burn Australia Down:

 

“Oh, that’s all fine. No threat to social cohesion there. No need for special AFP task forces! No need to disrupt and dissuade those people from their activities. No need to talk about that at all!”

 

It’s only nationalism that’s a threat to Australia, apparently.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Like, so being anti-Australia is sweet, but being pro-Australia is the worst possible thing. That’s literally like we live in the inverted, … Obviously everyone watching this gets it. We live in the total inversion.

 

Blair Cottrell: Wish we could be a fly on the wall. Like watching certain task forces and police officers get briefed on like Right-wing groups, the sort of shit that they would get fed about Right-wing groups.

 

Joel Davis: I know what they get fed! Because I’ve been pulled over with Jack Eltis. I remember we got pulled over by the Raptor Squad. This was last year. And the Raptor Squad are like an anti-bikie task force, which is for the benefit of the audience. And they were just like, Jack was driving and they were giving Jack like tickets for not indicating left when exiting roundabouts and just trying to fuck with him, you know, stuff that like police never care about, that no one, like stupid laws on the books, technically that no one obeys. And I said:

 

“Qu do you feel good about yourself? I mean, this is fucking pathetic! You guys are fucking pathetic!”

 

And they said:

 

“Well, you guys are terrorists!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that what they said?

 

Joel Davis:

 

“What!”

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s because before they go out to disrupt and engage with you guys and whatever you’re doing, someone from the government or someone from police command briefs them and says:

 

“These guys are terrorists. They will stab you, they will kill you! So go hard on them!”

 

That’s what they will get told. And these rank, these cops, you know what do you call it? Rank and file cops, they would just gobble that up because they’re paid to gobble it up, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: So who is it, who is it that’s lying to police and calling a group of people engaging in political protest “terrorists”? Who’s doing that? Wouldn’t that be illegal? Oh, I forgot. We don’t have any actual standards or rules. We’re not a real democracy. So nothing’s really illegal, is it?

 

[1:18:37]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, if myself, I know this is true. Also, I remember I’ve been in the car driving home from night out with Jacob Hersant and they got his licence and put it into the system and they’re like:

 

“Oh!”

 

And one cop pointed to the other and said:

 

“Oh, Counter Terrorism watch!”

 

Like he’s on a counter terrorism watch list. What act of terrorism has Jacob Hersant committed? None! He just conveys his political views in public that offend people’s feelings and that’s “terrorism”.

 

But yeah, they brief the police that we, they literally have political police in this country as we have been discussing. We have political police in this country that are basically briefed on so-called Right-wing extremism, nationalism, as the greatest threat to our country. And that people like us say that it’s the immigrants that are a threat to the country and so on, when it actually is! Like people like us say the truth and then. But apparently we’re the threats for saying the truth!

 

But anyway, my point is that the Australian people know, the average Aussie knows that Australia Day is under attack and that it’s under attack because they’re under attack, because we’re under attack as a people. And they attack our day because they’re attacking the legitimacy of our whole country because they’re attacking us and our claim to this country.

 

And so if you look at the opinion polls, Australia Day has become more popular in recent years because people are feeling defiant. That’s what happens when you attack people existentially.

 

And so what I think is necessary spiritually for this country is for the cities to be just covered in Australian flags and patriots on Australia Day because then the media will say that it’s racist and that we’re all Nazis, … Some of us are Nazis. They’re going to put us all over the television. We’re going to be ready for it, but they’re going to make it all about that.

 

And then the average Australian is going to be sitting at home and says:

 

“Isn’t that what’s supposed to happen on Australia Day? Aren’t we supposed to celebrate Australia Day? Aren’t we Australia?”

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what’s funny is a lot of recently arrived immigrants are confused about that too. Like, when people who have just arrived in Australia, they hear about Australia Days happening soon, they sometimes, like, show up in a public place with Australian flags and stuff because they’re like:

 

“Wow, we’re citizens. I can’t believe we’re in Australia. We’re so happy to be here!”

 

And then there’s like White Leftists, like blonde people with Aboriginal T-shirts on, just throwing bricks at them and screaming:

 

“You fucking racist!”

 

Like, [chuckling] could you imagine how confused you would be?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that’s the thing. Like, last year, they were able to make it look like we’re this fringe crazy group. And people got very emotional. They were like:

 

“Well they shouldn’t be getting arrested for celebrating Australia Day, singing Waltzing Matilda. That’s fucked up!”

 

And we knew they were going to arrest us and that we’d create that optics trap. But how edifying would it be to then fast forward one year and it’s just tens of thousands and it’s all over the country and it’s like:

 

“Arrest this! What are you going to do this time?”

 

Then Australians need to remind one another that we’re still here and that we haven’t given up yet and that has an intangible quality. Some people say:

 

“What’s the point of marching in the street?”

 

And so on. But it has an intangible quality. And this wouldn’t be a protest. This would be a celebration. And the Lefties, they’re already protesting us regardless of whether we show up or not. They do it every year. They’re the protesters. Let them be the protests. We can be the ones celebrating who we are on our national holiday.

 

And I think this Australia Day will be incredible! I think if you’re not marching for Australia Day this year, you’re a fake patriot. I mean, you just have to get out there because, … Yeah, you just have to! We have to take our cities back. It’s like a matter of honour. Do you agree? I presume you must agree.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, what am I agreeing with exactly? That people should fly the flag of their country proudly on Australia Day and celebrate Australia Day.

 

Joel Davis: But then we should march, like in the cities, like with March for Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, the local governments used to facilitate those marches. I think it was cancelled during the pandemic. The Australia Day parades, the traditional ones, were cancelled during the Covid pandemic for health reasons, for your “safety”. Because it’s not like any evil is ever done in the name of your safety.

 

And then they were just never reinstated. So after like Covid just vanished overnight after everyone got vaccinated because that’s all they cared about was injecting everybody with the shit that ended up causing heart attacks that they never talked about. Once they got what they wanted in that regard, well, everything just went back to normal. And the marches, the Australia Day parades were never reinstated.

 

So we should just have our own parades. I guess, like everyone should just get out on the streets and march through the city organically. You don’t need the government to tell you it’s okay to do it. Just go and do it for your country.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, it’d be a fun day out. So I’m really looking forward to it. That was like, I’ve had this vision in my mind for some time,. So and I think it’d be powerful. And then we’re going to be doing our conference, our national conference that weekend and be launching, we’ll probably be launching the political party around then. I don’t know exactly when we’re going to do that, if we’re going to try and bundle it together or do it separately. We haven’t exactly decided on that timing. But you know, next year is going to be a big one for us and for nationalism and what a way to kick it off.

 

So anyway, because of all of that, and that’s a beautiful vision, great things to think about. Is really disappointing what’s happened in Brisbane. And I think it’s going to turn into a big drama and this is going to be like the animating kind of battle lines, I guess, of the next phase of where it’s going to be the containment Right, the remnants of the conservative establishment trying to rebrand themselves as anti-immigration populists, even though they’re not really that sincere about it and are just kind of grifting off it or trying to angle it for their narrow political purposes.

 

But it’s basically just maintaining “conservatism incorporated”, you know, maintaining the inertia of that whole structure of compromise and cowardice versus the re-emergence of real grassroots nationalism, trying to use that intergenerational energy, the energy of the White youth fueling the rise of a real nationalist movement. And the battle between these two forces and picking a side between these two forces is going to be the animating battle of the next few years. And like you can see that’s also kind of true, I think in not just in this situation but in America as well.

 

Like recent developments over there where I’m just seeing the old guard, … The difference I think between the Americans and us is that there’s more of a conservative establishment. So it’s like in America they’re fighting over control of the conservative establishment. Like nationalists are trying to like claim the conservative establishment and redirect it towards their ends.

 

Whereas in Australia the conservative establishment isn’t worth trying to like take over. Like it’s a joke! You should just push it over, just blow it up, get rid of it, replace it, beat it!

 

Blair Cottrell: By blow it up you don’t mean like actually blow it up, right?

 

Joel Davis: No, not literally planting bombs or something of that nature, but like, it’s a metaphor. But ASIO don’t care at this point that we’re not violent, that we’re not terrorists.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah apparently. You’re being treated as though you are anyway.

 

Joel Davis: So ASIO, stop with fucking us! Feds, stop fucking with us! We’re gonna try and take this in a political direction. We’re going to go away from the kind of more terroristic angle that you guys don’t like and we’re going to move into a peaceful political solution orientation. Allow us to do it! Because if you actually care about terrorism in the sense of you want to stop it, the only way that you’re going to stop it is by giving people with our views an outlet to express them within the system.

 

If you lock us out so that we can’t participate in the system, that’s how you’re going to create, … And ASIO said this themselves, like Mike Burgess* has said this himself, that he doesn’t expect us to commit terrorism. He expects some random guy who’s a nationalist, who gets black pilled, who thinks the movement has got no hope, goes off as a lone wolf and does some crazy shit! But they don’t even care about that. They’re not talking about terrorism anymore because they know they can’t make that stick on us. So now they’re just talking about what, …

 

[* Michael Paul Burgess is an Australian intelligence official, and the current Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO). Prior to his appointment to this role on 16 September 2019, Burgess was director-general of the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). Burgess was born in England, and immigrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1973 at the age of seven. He was the first member of his family to study in higher education, receiving a degree in electrical engineering from the South Australian Institute of Technology in 1988.]

 

Blair Cottrell: What happens when like literally everyone who ever supported NSN or White Australia ends up feeling that way. Because as soon as they tried to form a political party, the police just went even harder to disrupt them from doing that. And there was no chance of them actually having a voice or any representation. [chuckling] It’s like you guys when you were just hosting protests, making social media posts. Like two years ago, things weren’t that bad. I mean, you had some minor problems with police, but mostly it was just journalists giving you shit in the media.

 

But now you want to form a political party, you’re almost on the way to doing it, you’re making real progress. And now all of a sudden the whole Federal Police service is forming task forces and openly admitting that they’re going to do everything possible to “disrupt you from forming a political party”. It’s like they go even harder when you actually try to establish yourself or establish some sort of legitimate political representation.

 

So if I were an intelligence agent, I’d be sitting there scratching my head thinking:

 

“What’s the real problem here? Is it these guys trying to form a political party and obey the law? Or is it whoever’s in government mobilising the police into special task forces to harass, disrupt and set those guys up on bullshit charges for trying to form a political party? Maybe we need to look a little deeper into the actual system. Maybe the system’s the problem!”

 

Joel Davis: This is an interesting, … So meanwhile, while they’re treating us as the problem, is this:

 

“ASIO boss Mike Burgess warns of realistic possibility foreign government could attempt to kill a dissident in Australia.”

 

This article came out today.

 

Blair Cottrell: What’s that in relation to? What foreign government?

 

Joel Davis: I’ll read it out:

 

“Delivering the 2025 Lowy Lecture on Tuesday, he said, ‘this threat is real. We believe there are at least three nations willing and capable of conducting lethal targeting. It is entirely possible the regimes would try to hide their involvement by hiring criminal cutouts, as Iran did when directing its arson attack’.”

 

So he’s still pushing this nonsense that Iran was behind the synagogue arson attacks when obviously it was the fucking jews!

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s weird! It’s like, why would Iran do that? What benefit is there for Iran?

 

Joel Davis: There is no benefit.

 

Blair Cottrell: It could very possibly be someone acting through Iran to make it look like it’s Iran.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the jews! We know that Israel have penetrated Iran because when they had their war earlier this year, Mossad were conducting targeted assassinations inside Tehran of their top political and military officials. So it shows that Mossad have guys on the inside, that they’ve fully penetrated the Iranian system and establishment and so on.

 

So they could easily make, they could easily pay, you know, gangs here to do fire-bombings of synagogues and then make it look like they were Iranian or something. What a load of garbage!

 

But yeah, paying organised crime. So it came out, Mark Latham brought this up as well recently that he asked the, I think the police commissioner in New South Wales about, because they have something called Strike Force Pearl, which is their anti-semitism special task force or something. And he said:

 

“Of all the arrests they made in response to anti-semitic, you know, arson attacks and graffiti incidents and whatever, how many were organised crime?”

 

And they said:

 

“All of them!”

 

All of them were organised crime.

 

So it’s not anti-semites doing it. Someone’s paying, you know, biker gangs and shit to do it. Why? Why would they be doing that? Well, what was the net result? The net result? Did any jews get hurt? No.

 

So it wasn’t to get the jews. The net result was to basically provide a context, a pretext for the jewish lobby and its satellites in the media and Sky News. What does Mark Latham call it? “Sky jews”. And instead of the Daily Telegraph, he says the “Daily Tel Aviv”. For the jewish media and the jewish lobby to pressure successfully the government into passing Hate Speech laws.

 

So obviously it was the fucking jews that paid the gangsters. I mean, one plus one equals two.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe they know that, maybe ASIO knows that. But they’re publicly running with the “oh, Iran did it”, to make Israel think they’re not on to them. I mean, that’s a long shot.

 

But what they say publicly doesn’t always need to line up with what they actually know. They’re an intelligence agency, so they could be playing a long game.

 

Joel Davis: This is interesting. In this article, it’s supposed to be about foreign governments attempting to kill dissidents. And you were just talking about how you think they could try to kill me potentially, if I get too successful. Or you, or our friends. What he says here:

 

“Angry, alienated individuals are embracing anti-authority ideologies and conspiracy theories, engaging in uncivil debate and unpeaceful protest.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Where’s that happen?

 

Joel Davis:

 

“The aggrieved, not necessarily espouse violent views. It may see violence as a legitimate way to affect political societal change. The way nationalist and racist violent extremists attempted to leverage the so-called March for Australia rallies is a case in point. The biggest neo-Nazi group, the National Socialist Network, or White Australia as it is rebranding itself, identified the demonstrations as a vehicle to raise its profile. It strategically and opportunistically exploited the organisers complaints about immigration and the cost of living. Even if the organisation does not engage in terrorism, I remain deeply concerned by its hateful, divisive rhetoric and increasingly violent propaganda?”

 

What do you mean violent propaganda?

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on, did Burgess say that specifically?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah!:

 

“And the growing likelihood these things will prompt spontaneous violence, particularly in response to perceived provocation.”

 

So what this is saying:

 

“We might upset people who will then attack us, and that this is therefore irresponsible.”

 

What a joke!

 

Blair Cottrell: So he’s actually referencing members of Australian nationalism or specifically White Australia as potential targets for assassination. Is that what he’s saying?

 

Joel Davis: I haven’t seen those explicit comments here, but I’m still reading:

 

“While nationalist and racist violent extremists make up the significant majority of our investigations into ideologically motivated extremism.”

 

So still the majority of ASIO’s work is on us. I mean, it’s crazy to think about how many people working in these federal agencies are just focused on the boys, like literally us!

 

Blair Cottrell: Fucking crazy! Especially when you see the boys and like you know them. They’re literally just normal guys.

 

Joel Davis: Like they’re watching right now! There’s like feds watch, like they watch every episode of this shit!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, they have to.

 

Joel Davis: Like you’re fucking pathetic! Hi feds! Fuck you! Ike, what a joke.

 

Blair Cottrell: When he said, when Burgess said that White Australia or you guys utilise concerns about immigration to exploit or gain your profile or whatever as a political force. Doesn’t literally every fucking political group or party that ever existed do the same thing?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, One Nation is trying to exploit it for themselves. The Liberal Party tries to exploit it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Massive realisation, bro! Like literally that’s what politics is. You leverage an environment and situation to your advantage. Like as long as it’s not violent, it’s legal. But that’s changing right now, isn’t it?

 

Joel Davis: If people attack us and we fight back. And he says:

 

“Oh, they’re provoking violence.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s very concerning.

 

Anyway, continue.

 

Joel Davis: Since, oh, he’s just going on about fucking October [7th] 2023, anti-Israel, blah, blah, blah. All he cares about is people doing nationalism or being anti-Israel. It’s just like political policing. Like the positions of the state is that:

 

“White people bad, jews good! And we want to enforce that.”

 

That’s all he’s saying, basically.

 

[1:36:26]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the days are almost gone, where you can sit on streams like this and talk like we’re talking now, I don’t think this will be possible in another year or two. Maybe even sooner than that. I think the world we grew up in where you can just observe how ridiculous the government is or how unjustly you’re being treated by government agencies, by police, and you can just openly discuss that or draw attention to it. I almost think those days are gone. We’re almost done with that.

 

Like, you’ll be streaming like this and they’ll just come into your house and smash your camera and arrest you over some like. [chuckling] I actually believe that we’re going to go through a time like that pretty soon. I feel it in my gut. Yeah, we’re almost done with this. This will be a thing of the past pretty soon.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know. I think it’s a bit much. I don’t think.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think you’ll be surprised. Australia is very corrupt.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it is corrupt. It is corrupt, but I don’t think they have the ability to do that.

 

But anyway, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they’re already raiding people on no evidence. Like they’re just coming into your house and saying:

 

“Oh, you did this!”

 

They don’t have any fucking proof. And they’re just using that as an excuse to take all your shit! So they’re doing it already.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, it’s not really the same thing though, is it? Because you don’t, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s only one step away. Like, it’s basically within the same tier.

 

Joel Davis: That’s like, they use the, “the process is the punishment” type thing, but they are not actually succeeding in getting the punishment in those scenarios. I mean, Tom just represented himself from a jail cell over zoom in court and won the other day.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but he’s still in jail.

 

Joel Davis: Well, he’s in jail for running up a hill and hitting people. Like, it’s, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Partly. It’s like 25 other charges as well.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I mean, obviously what’s happening to him is unfair, but it’s like I push back against this, like catastrophizing:

 

“Oh, they’re just gonna round us all up and put us in jail anytime now.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, if you look at what’s happening, like if you just observe the pattern of their activity, what they do is when they don’t get a result by going or by increasing their activity in regards to like taking a more aggressive approach. When they don’t get the result they want by taking a more aggressive approach, they just become more aggressive again to try to get a result. And if that doesn’t work, then they just get more aggressive again. That’s the pattern of behaviour I’m seeing from the current political policing government system. So based on that pattern, it’s just mathematical certainty that they’re just going to become more aggressive.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but at the end of the day, like they don’t have the ability to just arrest, …

 

Blair Cottrell: They do have that.

 

Joel Davis: They still have to win in court. You’ll win in court and then you make them look stupid. Like there’s a limit., …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I agree. That can take years. But then it depends on how compromised the judges are as well. So there’s still variables there to consider.

 

And like they really do have the ability, they have the ability to do whatever they want. There’s just words on paper that they need to manipulate to make it seem legit.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, there’s legitimacy though. Like if they push too hard, particularly as we’re building this political party, if they push too hard against us, you know, it will be too delegitimizing. So they have, …

 

Blair Cottrell: There is that. But then you can argue that they’ll just make it exclusively about you and your ideology, and they’ll get everyone to agree on those terms. So it can’t happen to anyone else, but it can happen to these Nazis because of “how abhorrent they are”. And everyone will be like, “yes”! In Parliament. I think they made a law. Do you know who Julian Knight is? He was that guy who shot a bunch of police officers. Maybe Huddle Street Massacre, Was it Huddle Street?

 

Anyway, he’s in jail and he was eligible for parole a while ago. Did he get parole recently? I can’t remember. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t. But Parliament made a law specifically to keep him in jail because he was considered such a villain of society, specifically to keep him in jail. So reason I’m telling you that is because though they can just try to make laws specifically to stop you guys registering exclusively, and they’ll claim that that’s, …

 

Joel Davis: Like, if they want to try and do that. And then I’m happy to go to the High Court. We’ll win. I’m pretty confident, like, it’s unconstitutional.

 

Blair Cottrell: I hope. So yeah.

 

Joel Davis: And then it will just be like, good publicity.

 

Blair Cottrell: And I’m not being. I’m not taking a black pill here. Like, if you just look at the pattern of behaviour, like I said, of the Australian government and policing system, this is what they’re gonna do, I reckon. Because they just get more and more aggressive, more and more.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they’re playing games.

 

But the problem that they have is the police try to go further than what the laws actually allow them to. They’re getting ahead of themselves. They’re not going about it with the Right progression. It’s not the policy, …

 

[1:41:29]

 

Blair Cottrell: Where’s the incentive for them not to do that, though? Because they do that and then there’s no punishment. There’s no drawback for them. The charges against you that didn’t hold up in court and that took a year for you to sort of clear your name of two years. Well, you still have to go through all of that process and then the charges just get dropped or you get found not guilty or whatever. And then there’s no actual consequence for the police for taking two years of your life.

 

Joel Davis: There aren’t any consequence for me either. I got a bunch of court dates I have to call into, and I got held in a jail cell for a few hours. Like, I don’t give a fuck! Like, it doesn’t really change anything for me.

 

Blair Cottrell: So I just think there should be an immediate and pretty severe consequence for police, for the prosecution department, if they lay charges on you that end up just getting dropped or you found not guilty. You shouldn’t have to go through like a second lawsuit process that takes another two fucking years and costs another $40,000 to try to get like some sort of justice against malicious prosecution. It should just be like some sort of immediate consequence. Like the prosecutor who signed off on the bullshit charge should just get sacked straight away! Maybe his whole team, something like that.

 

Joel Davis: Well, I agree with that, but that’s not gonna, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Especially when we have a system where there’s no real punishment for just being malicious as a prosecutor or as a police officer. You can just do it and then later, oh the judge finds that this isn’t legit, so throws it out and then the cops just goes home laughing anyway. Because he’s still robbed you of all that time and energy and money!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that’s what happens. It’s just like this circle jerk where we just get jerked around. Obviously there’s an exception when it comes to. When they allege, like, an assault or something that’s separate. But when it comes to these speech crimes and political machinations, it’s just this. It’s just this big, like, jerk around that then ultimately doesn’t actually result in very serious punishments, or if there’s even a conviction.

 

So it’s like, I just don’t really care that much. And you kind of let it. That’s the thing. That’s why I do find it annoying the catastrophizing, because that’s like, part of what it is. It’s like to create fear so that people think:

 

“Oh, well, like, we can’t do anything because the police stop us.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Okay, but they haven’t stopped us yet. They haven’t actually stopped us.”

 

And so it shows that if they could just stop us so easily, they would have by now. But they can’t. Like, there’s limitations on what they can do, and we’re skirting on the edge. But they don’t have the ability to just like an easy, like, snap us in half option because they would have taken it by now.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re trying to create one. The limitations are changing fast.

 

Joel Davis: They’re trying to.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what we’re observing right now!

 

Joel Davis: They haven’t actually come up with a formula on how to do it yet. They haven’t figured out how to do it. They’ve got all these think tanks and lobby groups and they’ve passed all these different laws and they do all these meetings and have all the, … And they still haven’t fucking done it yet.

 

So to me, that demonstrates something. You know, you got to take stock of that you have been around for a while. Tom’s been around for a while. Like this isn’t like something that just popped up in the last year that they’re dealing with. They haven’t figured out how to deal with it. All they’ve done is kind of amplify us and make us more famous. They haven’t figured out the method. And using like policing tactics to deal with something like this is the wrong way. If they wanted to beat us, the way you beat us is by creating a fake opposition movement that basically is kind of nationalist, but it’s still controlled by them. And you bring all the people that would otherwise support us into that alternative. But they can’t do that they don’t have the skills to do that and they don’t have the personnel to do that. And they don’t have the ability to concede that because they’re so ideologically fixated that even like the ZOG version of us, they would be still too offended by it, to allow it to exist.

 

So yeah, I think we should do some Superchats. Unless you can respond to that, but we could do some Superchats.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, it sounds like a good idea. It’s been a good discussion. Pretty intense talking points and topics. But it’s an intense environment down here in Australia right now, isn’t it?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah it is.

 

But yeah, Sign up to the party! Sign up to the fucking party! Like seriously. Mr. Marshwood said:

 

“What’s your take on the mischling* question?”

 

Well, I don’t even know what you mean by the mischling question. Like, yeah, do I agree with the Nuremberg Laws? Maybe they’re a little bit too lenient I would say.

 

[* Mischling was a pejorative legal term which was used in NS Germany to denote persons of mixed “Aryan” and “non-Aryan”, such as Jewish, ancestry as they were classified by the Nuremberg racial laws of 1935. In German, the word has the general denotation of ‘hybrid’, ‘mongrel’, or ‘half-breed’. Outside its use in official Nazi terminology, the term Mischlingskinder was later used to refer to war babies born to non-White soldiers and German mothers in the aftermath of World War II. Wikipedia]

 

But you know, from what I’ve seen like an Ashkenazi jew is like 70% White, 30% Levantine.

 

So if someone is like, so the Germans, if you’re between 1/2 and 1/8 jewish, you’d be classified as a Mischling, which meant that you weren’t classified as a full jew. Or you could stay in Germany but you couldn’t like work in like government or the media or any like sensitive position.

 

But if you were like 1/8 jewish or less, then you could be considered like a full German and you could do most things other than join the SS which had like 100% blood purity requirements. So like, is that what you’re asking? Like, I mean, I’m not going to criticise it. At the time it was probably a reasonable law. I would probably go about things a little bit differently today. And because the primary issue isn’t really like jewish mixing, it’s like other non-Whites who are, if jews are like mostly White with some admixture when they mix in, it’s a bit different than if someone’s like Asian or black or something because it’s more of a genetic divergence. So you have to be way more strict. Hazel Mango said:

 

“Why did you move to Sydney, Joel?”

 

I don’t really want to get into all the details of my personal life, but I’m from Sydney, so I kind of just like moved back. Oz88 said:

 

“Are there niggers in heaven?”

 

No! What do you think, Blair? Are there niggers in heaven?

 

[1:48:05]

 

Blair Cottrell: Are there black people in heaven? I’m sure there’s been some noble black people who have done some noble stuff. I think it’s pretty dismissive to say, …

 

Joel Davis: I’d say they’re not going to the same place we’re going.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, I don’t know, man! I don’t know. Do you believe in heaven, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: Not really, no. But like let’s say you did. Like let’s just say like for argument’s sake, like we’re on board with that. Do you think? Are we going to be, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, considering that, …

 

Joel Davis: Like what’s up my nigger?

 

Blair Cottrell: Like considering that like having that racial admixture creates an earthly hell, I can’t imagine the most ideal, it’s not really living conditions, like an afterlife, the most pristine existence would be multi-ethnic. It’s probably going to be very orderly and homogeneous, you would think.

 

But some people believe that heaven is like your own version of perfect. It’s like a perfect time in your past that you envision. You just kind of keep living in that.

 

What would your version of heaven be? What would you like, do you want? Are you like one of those 72 virgins kind of guys? Or do you have like, …

 

Joel Davis: No, I’m not a fucking Muslim. No, I think that’s a meme idea. I mean I like the notion of Valhalla where it’s just like basically you just fight all day and then pretty much until everyone dies. And then you like respawn, have a big piss up, party all night and then wake up the next morning and fight the death again.

 

And then you like respawn, have a party and it just goes like that forever. That sounds pretty cool to me. It’s like playing video games. I was thinking you can just play like GTA like IRL every day with your mates. Like imagine if we could kill each other. But you don’t have to feel bad because like you’ll see me tomorrow. Like just respawn, like be funny as fuck! I’ll kill you all the time.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re like laughing about it. You’re like, bro, your skull exploded yesterday! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. [chuckling] But yeah. Do you have a dream of niggers? Because personally, in my dreams, everyone’s always White. I’m not just saying that to be edgy.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a good point, actually. Well, I’ve never really had a close relationship with anyone who’s black. And so there’s not really effective, like memory data of interacting with someone who’s black.

 

So I suppose I don’t dream about it because there’s nothing for my brain to draw upon. Because I tend to dream about scenarios that I have experienced. But then there’s all this extra stuff like expansion content bolted on and it turns into something different. I’m sure if I knew a black guy that I probably would dream on occasion about a black guy, but I just, …

 

Joel Davis: You don’t dream about niggers! That’s!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, do you?

 

Joel Davis: No!

 

Blair Cottrell: Why are we being asked these questions? What are these questions? Is this Superchats?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Tollah the Gotcha Joel bro:

 

“When’s your next debate? Get it done. That wog faggot on TikTok who dodged you is a coward! Who else is on the horizon apart from Avi and others?”

 

I don’t know. I don’t really have. I mean, everyone. I don’t know. I got to change my approach because it seems like when I try to debate people, I must be intimidating them. I must be coming on too strong. And they keep running away. In the debate world. I’m like the, desperate incel, who the girl replies to my text and then I spam her with like 45 texts about how she’s the one.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, [chuckling] you got to control that man!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I gotta play hard to get.

 

Blair Cottrell: Too keen. This young axe is too keen. That’s his problem.

 

Joel Davis: Treat ‘em mean, keep ‘em keen. Or something. But it’s like the opposite. I’m like, too mean!

 

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PongTheBoy
9 hours ago
you fuckinf idiots are single handedly destroying the end immigration movement your gay little marches don’t do anything but scare normies and empower the left and j’s.. fuck both of you retards hopefully you get locked up so us with a brain are able to take over the movement
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AndrewGalvin
1 day ago
What’s been up with Blair recently, it’s like he has no vril and spirit anymore. He started playing video games on stream and doesn’t seem to care as much.
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AndrewGalvin
1 day ago
Can we get Jacob on
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CH484D_60Y1M
1 day ago
PATRIOTS organize – DIGITAL ID! TEXAS! Show of force as a protest is a must, Urgent Constitutionally legal show of force, armed assembly ! https://rumble.com/v71d4ei-patriots-organize-digital-id-texas-show-of-force-is-a-must.html
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AussiePermaculture
1 day ago
My intuition is telling me things are going to get really good unexpectedly.
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TheShowgun
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2 days ago
Literally laughed very loudly at Blair’s complete ignorance of JD Vance
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okkkkkk4
2 days ago
Best podcast in the world. Free tom. Blair says things that may happen and Joel says why they won’t lol
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ProvingNihil
2 days ago
Nice Joy Division shirt Joel!
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jonottawa
2 days ago
It’s time to cut Blair loose. Every answer, every take, sets off alarm bells. Watch through the show again and tell me I’m wrong. He’s either a fed or his heart is no longer in it.
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HeronNow
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13 hours ago
YOU’RE WRONG
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Girnigoe
2 days ago
I don’t think Blair is ever being negative. Someone must play ‘devil’s advocate. As to what ZOG will do to you, look what they’ve done to everyone else who has opposed them. Get a Ouija Board and ask Julius Stretcher or Alfred Rosenberg.
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Restlessdreams88
3 days ago
Basic joy division shirt
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imSofaKingRayZest
3 days ago
just a few important points for the white australia parties policies off the top of my head, ending australias un treaties is a must at the start as it legally underpins most of the un-australian laws in place, lima declaration, who health policies, climate change mandates, etc. free speech is also a must, as a org commented to truth, lies can always be defeated by truth, the holocost could never be pushed if truth was honored. a comprehensive policy on technology and its use is also essential with the neural/social distortion capacity, coming dominance of ai and agi and the robotic transition. a massive re education program for both women and men toward a more natural order.
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imSofaKingRayZest
3 days ago
afp have the power to legally hack into your devices and plant illegal material on it then raid you and charge you for having said material. think about that for 58 seconds while another non white immigrant legally becomes australian, cobber.
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imSofaKingRayZest
3 days ago
so abbos calling for “their” land back and an end of australia or importing infinity turd world filth is not seen as racially divisive or threatening social cohesion but white aussies wanting a white australia like it used to be is when we are all suppose to be equal?
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Keane55
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3 days ago
Also important to remember that Winston Churchill was responsible for the Galipolli disaster, of which the ANZACs were a massive percentage of the casualties.
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palacepony
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3 days ago
Yeah this DISRUPT LAW shit.. where is the line drawn here? Rape your wife? Kill your dog? Burn your car? Blair is great to expose the frailty of these stooges and their ‘disrupt law’.
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BradC1988
3 days ago
The WAR film is fucking epic and inspirational. AUSTRALIA FOR THE WHITE MAN! THE REST MUST GO!
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Bolzenschleuder
3 days ago
Joel serving up some sweet emo aesthetics tonight
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Seanybruv
4 days ago
2:22:00 slurs only exist for inferior people and inferior things. It’s why there are no proper slurs for White people, at least none that actually work in the same way they do for other races.
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SALAustNZ
4 days ago
No. There are no groups in heaven.
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Seanybruv
4 days ago
I can’t believe you didn’t talk about the White Australia Rising documentary. I see it’s been taken off youtube already, it’s criminally underviewed on Rumble
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Scovell7
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4 days ago
Blair’s blackpilling seems to increase with each episode. It really contrasts with what appears to be the mood of the NSN at the moment.
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3010phil
4 days ago
They should look at how many from the AFD party in Germany have recently died . Way too many for coincidence
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fdgrdfg
4 days ago
1:25:50 Blair’s response was goated ahaha
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DJTriumph
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4 days ago
If there was a White Britain Party I would vote for the first time in my life
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TripleGas
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4 days ago
Erika Kirk (née Frantze) is a yenta.
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TripleGas
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4 days ago
this whole “nigggers are going to heaven” shit is so fucking retarded and is always pushed by fedora fags and Satanists as some kind of own. They don’t even believe in heaven but try concern troll Christians. Pathetic bunch they are.
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AltKuyperian
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4 days ago
Sad I keep missing these. Show is over before I get out of bed in the morning lol
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Dissident_Loner
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4 days ago
I had hoped that Blair would go off on an uplifting rant and he didn’t disappoint.
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LachlanMD
4 days ago
these ads before the show are getting ridiculous
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Seanybruv
4 days ago
watch on Brave browser, no ads
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MajesticCasual
4 days ago
Brave browser, or Adblock Plug in on FireFox, etc I probably haven’t seen an ad since 2008 or so. Ads become obsolete and why on YoudenTube they have people manually read ads.
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AltKuyperian
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4 days ago
Unfortunately, it’s due to the large presence of easily fooled boomers on the app.
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BradC1988
3 days ago
Brave browser solved that problem for me
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Strueth
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Strueth
2 days ago
oops sorry,, I had my phone in my pocket gardening and just noticed this weird pocket message…
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katana17
5 days ago
[Joel Davis – NSN Conference Speech – Aug 10, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/11/03/joel-davis-nsn-conference-speech-aug-10-2025-transcript/ [In this speech given at a National Socialism Network conference in August 2025, Aussie nationalist activist Joel Davis talks on “Why Individualism is Cowardice”, and how to be effective Whites need to see politics as a team sport, just like our enemies, organized jewry and other groups, and work together. Key points: Organisational strength and media coverage: “This whole weekend has been such an upgrade for the organisation… They think making us look strong is going to go against us.” Critique of individualist accusations: “These Nazis they can’t get a girlfriend, they’re poor, they’re a bunch of losers… And so they have to blame the jews, blame the system, blame society for their ills.” Political sacrifice as responsibility: “To engage in this form of politics requires incredible sacrifice. We are the ones that are taking personal responsibility for the future of Our nation.” Politics as inherently collective: “There is no such thing as individualism in politics because politics, by definition is how you organise a society.” Criticism of conservative withdrawal: “What these people actually are advocating for is for you to exit political life, for you to not participate in political life, to become apolitical.” Learning from Left-wing tactics: “The Left make the personal political… The reason why your life sucks is because of White supremacy, is because of Patriarchy… And the way that we’re going to fix it is we’re going to go and create a political movement.” Movement costs and commitment: “This movement exacts costs… If you participate in our movement, you get a lot of enemies… They’re trying to put us in jail.” Racial politics as team sport: “Politics is a team sport… We have to play as a team, as White people, if we want to win!” And more, ….
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Welcome to the Nazi capital of Australia, Melbourne!

 

[loud applause]

 

Before I get into my speech, I would just quickly say, usually when we march in the street, we march about an issue. We march to draw attention to something or other in the political system or in popular discourse, whatever. This is the first time we marched just purely as a flex! [laughing] And this whole weekend has been a flex. This whole weekend has been such an upgrade for the organisation. Incredible weekend. Incredible! Just all three days, everything has been brilliant! I think the morale has never been this high. It really feels like we’re taking steps forward. And the way that this has been reported by the media is:

 

“Look how many Nazis there are! Look how big they are! The police were powerless to stop us. They bashed everyone that tried to stop them in the march!”

 

[laughing]

 

They got Nathan Bull flexing on the front page of The Age.

 

[laughing]

 

Like, these people are idiots! They think making us look strong is going to go against us? The only reason why we aren’t bigger yet is because people don’t believe or haven’t believed that this could actually take the next step and then the next step and the next step! But they’re just announcing to Australia that we’ve taken the next step and a lot more people are going to come with us now to take the step after this.

 

But anyway, my speech today is on, Why Individualism is Cowardice.

 

And the reason why I’m speaking about this is because it’s a common refrain that you get from conservatives, from libertarians who say:

 

“These Nazis they can’t get a girlfriend, they’re poor, they’re a bunch of losers. And so they have to blame the jews, blame the system, blame society for their ills because they can’t get it together in their personal lives!”

 

We’re all just a bunch of losers, apparently. And that’s why we have to cope and demand that the government, through some form of collectivism will come in and solve our problems. Because we have a victim mindset and we’re just like the Left, apparently. We just want Leftism but for White people or something.

 

And I want to deconstruct this with my speech today.

 

First of all, the kernel of the criticism is that because we can’t take responsibility for our personal lives, we can’t take personal responsibility. We’re apparently forced to engage in this movement, to engage in our politics. What’s quite incredible though is that to engage in this form of politics requires incredible sacrifice. We are the ones that are taking personal responsibility for the future of our nation! What these conservatives and libertarians, these individualists, their aspiration, ends, starts and ends in their own personal lives!

 

To me, that seems to suggest that you’re a loser. If your personal life is that hard to get together, if getting a wife and some money is that difficult, that you can’t even think about politics. You can’t even think beyond that. You’re a fucking loser!

 

But also, it goes a step deeper because when you think about it, what is politics? Politics is collectivism! There is no such thing as individualism in politics because politics, by definition is how you organise a society. Politics is how you organise the people that you stand with to then fight and defend your way of life against every and all threats to it. That’s what politics fundamentally is. There is no way to do individual politics. Once you become an individual, you’re no longer in the political. The political is collective.

 

And so what these people who criticise collectivism, these people who criticise wanting the government to do things that benefit you, what these people actually are advocating for is for you to exit political life, for you to not participate in political life, for you to become apolitical.

 

And then they wonder why the Right-wing loses! And loses! And loses because these losers perpetually tell us:

 

“To stop engaging in politics, because that’s collectivism! That’s just like the Left!”

 

Like the winners in the last however many decades of politics. Why? Because the Left make the personal, political. What do the Left say to their followers?:

 

“Hey! You know why your life sucks? Not because you’re a loser and you need to work harder and pull yourself up by your bootstraps and learn pickup artistry and work out and eat healthier, get rid of seed oils and become successful in business.”

 

No! They say:

 

“The reason why your life sucks is because of White supremacy! Is because of Patriarchy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And the way that we’re going to fix it is we’re going to go and create a political movement to go and punish our enemies and defeat our enemies and elevate ourselves to a position of social and political dominance!”

 

It turns out that works pretty well, as we can see by the deplorable state of our country and our entire civilisation.

 

So why the hell aren’t we doing that?

 

What is good advice for someone on a personal level that:

 

“Hey, you should cut out the seed oils. Hey, you should use this or that technique to improve your personal life.”

 

That might help you on the personal level, but it does nothing on the political level. And the Right-wing is too fixated on trying to create personal solutions to political problems. We need political solutions to political problems! We need collective solutions to political problems. That’s the only scale that you can solve political problems at.

 

[06:09]

 

And so really what conservatives and libertarians are engaged in is they’re rationalizing their refusal to confront our enemies in the political arena as though it makes them superior to us when it actually, that’s a cope! It makes them weaker! It makes them more pathetic than us! Because they’re refusing to take the fight, they’re refusing to pay the cost. This movement exacts costs. It exacts big costs from you, because this is the movement that is the most controversial movement in our entire country. If you participate in our movement, you get a lot of enemies. There’s a lot of consequences, potentially. They’re trying to put us in jail! The powerful people go on television demanding that we be classified as “terrorists”, demanding that we be outlawed. Thousands and thousands of people on the political Left and in jewish groups working meticulously every day to dox every single person in this movement, destroy your career prospects and ruin your life as much as possible.

 

Who’s doing that to the libertarians? Who’s doing that to people in the Liberal Party? Nobody! Why? Because they’re fucking weak and pathetic and they present no threat!

 

Politics is a team sport. What conservatives and libertarians say is that we shouldn’t play as a team because:

 

“Not all ‘X’ are like that, right? Not all jews are like that, not all blacks are like that!”

 

But this is irrelevant. Even if there’s a nice jew, a friendly jew, a friendly black, whatever, it’s irrelevant because politics is a team sport! We have to play as a team, as White people, if we want to win! We have the best team, we have the best players, but they don’t play as a team.

 

It’s like imagine if you were a soccer team. You had all the best players, but then everyone in the team refused to wear the same uniforms. They refused to acknowledge that they were in a team or that they had a coach. Everyone was trying to be the Striker. There was no goalkeeper, no defenders, no other position. And also they didn’t even acknowledge which goal we were supposed to be shooting in! That is the state of the White race, politically. All we have to do is play as a team and we win!

 

So, yeah, the problem is that we’re just not playing.

 

Now, another aspect of this too, your nation, your race, is more important than you. When you try to figure out what is life about? What does it mean? You can’t actually answer that question. If you only look within the prism of your individual personal life, from your birth to your death. If you try to do that, you will find out that there’s actually not very much meaning in that. To actually understand what this is about, you have to understand that you are part of a history and that you are part of a destiny which is inherited collectively that is passed down from our ancestors to you and we will pass to our children and grandchildren and so on.

 

That is the only way that you can really understand what it is that you’re doing here, what it is that we’re doing here as a society. That’s what culture is! It is maintaining and perpetuating that inheritance. You take that away and what are you left with? You’re left with banal pleasures. You’re left with frivolous experiences, satiating yourself to not really think about deeper existential questions because you don’t have the answers.

 

Well, we have the answers! The answer is that we are Aryans! We are Australians, and that we could create on this continent an incredible civilisation! We can create a powerhouse! The potential of this continent to host one of the most powerful nations on the planet is actually there. We have an incredible glut of resources. We have an entire continent to ourselves, and we have incredible racial stock!

 

But that inheritance is being thrown away. Australia has been run like, horribly for decade after decade after decade, and it’s still one of the best places in the world to live. It’s still pretty good. It’s actually incredible that you could have a country run so bad that is still this good. And that’s because of how good the people are!

 

Imagine what would happen if we had a government that actually loved our people and put its interests first. What could be possible! That had vision, that understood what I was saying before about history and destiny and actually tried to take up that mantle. That is what we represent. To paraphrase the Great One:

 

“There is nothing on this planet more valuable than your people!”

 

And I’d rather be an average Joe in the ethno-state than be the big cheese in a decaying civilisation. There are many men in our society who have esteem, who have high rank, whether it be they’re wealthy, successful businessmen, they’re successful in their career in some dimension.

 

And this is why they are not helping the movement. Not because they can’t see the problems that we see, but because they don’t want to pay the personal sacrifice of potentially losing that status or losing that wealth, which could occur if they participated.

 

But the question is this, what is it for? You know, when you make a billion dollars, you can’t, you don’t spend it. You’re passing that down to your children and your grandchildren, right?

 

So what’s the point if they don’t have a country! I’d rather be an average guy with my own country than a rich guy with no country. There’s nothing more valuable than that.

 

Look at what the jews do. The jews have an incredibly large amount of money. They invest that money to ensure that they have a country, that they have political power! And look at the benefits that they accrue for that. Imagine if we played as a team like them. Imagine if White Australians put as much money into our community groups and into our form of politics that the jews put into theirs. We would completely mog them!

 

This idea that the jews are these all powerful, all knowing, like superhumans is just bullshit! It’s just that we’re not playing the fucking game!

 

[12:40]

 

But also, not only is there no point pursuing success if it comes at the cost of your country, but also, it’s not worth it today for young Australians to really work that hard and grind. Because you have to grind so hard to stay in the same place. Like the average house prices in Sydney or Melbourne are skyrocketing. You can become successful in your career, earn hundreds and hundreds of thousand dollars a year and you can barely service a mortgage in a shitty middle of the road neighbourhood surrounded by fucking Indians! What’s the point? There is no point! Because like, it’s not worth it. We’re all fucking slaves. This sucks!

 

In the Australia of our forefathers, the average working man was able to achieve a dignified existence. Own his own home. His missus didn’t have to work. He could send his kids off to uni when they finish school, no problem. He could raise three or four kids, no problem. Two cars in the driveway. That sounds like a paradise! It shouldn’t. That was not a paradise. That’s the bare minimum of what is possible with Australia. We should have gotten better, not worse in the time since.

 

So the question is, well, if it’s not worth it, how do we make it worth it?

 

The only way that we’re going to make it worth it is by taking power and redistributing wealth, redistributing the structure of our society so that young White families can actually aspire again.

 

And that’s why we need to have a Right-wing form of socialism, in my view. The reason why a lot of young people are voting for the Left isn’t because they’re all woke, or something. That’s true for some of them, of course. And a lot of them are brown and just vote for the Left because they’re brown. There’s a lot of young White people who aren’t woke, they aren’t brown, but they’re looking at the structure of this economic system and how it screws them. And they go:

 

“Well, the Left is kind of making more noises like it wants to help me out than the Right. What is the Right saying? We’re going to cut taxes and deregulate!”

 

And all of this kind of typical conservative libertarian bullshit! That’s not going to fly with Zoomers when they’re looking at the way that wealth is distributed between Boomers and asset holders, where if you don’t own stuff, if you’re just working, no matter how successful you are, you’re a slave in this system and you can’t liberate yourself. The middle class is being foreclosed to the younger generation.

 

So the message that is going to be powerful to them is solving these problems at the collective level. They’re waiting for someone on the right to bring them a socialist message.

 

Of course, like the socialism in National Socialism doesn’t mean it’s not a dirty word. It doesn’t mean the same thing that the Left means, which is just simply taking from the rich and giving to the poor. What it means is putting the nation before the individual. That’s what it actually means.

 

But in practical terms, what that means for Australia today is redistributing wealth from basically our enemies and giving it to our friends. The Left does that. The Left taxes White workers and then redistributes wealth to retards and immigrants and all these different, basically victim groups across our society. We should be redistributing that wealth back to young White families so that they can raise the next generation and we can continue having a country. That’s the message that we’re going to sell to them. Not this individualistic, cut taxes, get the government out of our lives bullshit! I don’t want to get the government out of our lives. I want to get the government under our control!

 

[applause]

 

But ultimately, what it comes down to is that conservatives and libertarians, they lack the virtue of sacrifice. They just want to be left alone. It’s an ideology of conflict avoidance. That’s what it is.

 

You know, they called us “cowards” for wearing masks. Personally, I didn’t want to wear a mask. It was for the sake of uniformity, but they call us cowards for wearing masks. They’re fucking cowards! The whole ideology is cowardice! The whole ideology is:

 

“Well, you know what if we come up with a political philosophy and an approach that offends no one? What if we don’t actually do anything about any of our enemies? What if we just try to keep things as they are right now and kind of slow down the Left’s agenda, slow down the growth of government or something? Then maybe we could breathe.”

 

It’s an attempt at negotiating with a hostile enemy and ultimately it’s capitulation to a hostile enemy. That’s what their ideology is.

 

And that’s why it always loses! And has always lost and will always lose. And it needs to die!

 

Our ideology is one of accepting the fact that this is war! To be or not to be! That’s the question that faces us. We choose to be!

 

Hail victory! Thanks everyone for coming. This has been fantastic!

 

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Okay, we are live. It is the 5th of October, 2025. Week off for Blair this week. He’s had a lot on, but it’s all good because we got Jacob back on the show. Often requested, the acting leader of White Australia, Jacob Hersant. How are you doing this evening?

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m going well. Just suffering because of the change of daylight savings. We lost an hour. So I’m just sad, just sad the Germans Instituted that during the First World War. Apparently a lot of people have car accidents when it like changes over. And I don’t know, it’s like an interesting argument, like either way, whether or not having more light daylight or having more people die, like, what’s like, more worthy? What do you think, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: I personally don’t really give a fuck! I really don’t give a fuck!

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s not something you’re gonna die on a hill for.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: You’re not gonna put that on the party policies.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: Repeal daylight savings. That’s our main issue.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is like the main problem with like a lot of people with political opinions. I had this thought this week that everyone who’s. Who cares about politics and is like actively involved in politics, but their motivation isn’t racism, that it’s like something else, something wrong with them. Like, why would you actually care about politics otherwise? Like, it’s a whole bunch of debates over minutia, like whether we should have daylight savings or not, or like what tax brackets should have to pay, what percentage and so on. It’s just like instant snooze fest for me. Like, yeah, it’s all pretty gay and, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Like talking about bean collections and things like that. There was this. I can’t remember his name, but it was a British nationalist who was criticising a radical group in Britain and he’s saying real politics is talking about bin collection. And the issues that affect everyday Britons. And he just completely missed the point that politics is really about like the main issues like identity and national survival and all these kind of things. He also had like a really funny accent and everyone just used to meme him, but I think he’s just disappeared now. I haven’t seen any of his videos for almost a decade now.

 

Joel Davis: This is a problem that Gerard Rennick has. Gerard Rennick has a lot of good policies, like particularly his economic policies because he has pretty nationalist economic policies. And his policy on immigration, even though he is cucked on race, his policy on immigration is actually better than any of the other parties I Believe. It was like a hundred thousand maximum. And the policy of like One Nation is Net Zero. And Net Zero is still like a quarter of a million people in a year because that’s how many people leave on average, emigrate away from Australia to other countries. Most of them are White. Most of the people coming in are non-White. And so even if you have Net Zero immigration, it’s still a demographic issue.

 

But I think for Rennick it was like, cut it to a hundred thousand, like gross, which would be like net negative migration. Obviously he doesn’t support limiting the intake to just Western countries or something, which would make it a much better policy.

 

But anyway, my point is this. Gerard Rennick is extremely boring. He just wants to talk about all of these minutia policies that a bunch of like Boomers find interesting on Facebook or something, but nothing that will actually grab headlines, nothing that will really motivate strong emotions, strong feelings in the people.

 

And that’s why, even though he has a lot of good policies, I don’t think his party is going to have a great deal of success. And it’s incredibly uninspiring. I had someone report to me on what went down his recent. Because he’s setting up branches around the country for his new party and they had a meeting in Western Sydney last week. Someone sent me a photo of the meeting and it was like 90% Boomers, like White hair Boomers just sitting there.

 

And apparently Rennick said to the people:

 

“We’re going to hand out flyers and this and that, but don’t say anything controversial. Don’t say anything that’ll get you into the newspapers. Don’t say anything that will get you called the Nazi by the media.”

 

And that’s his mindset. It’s like, how far are you going to get with that mindset, Gerard? Where, like, no one’s talking about you and no one cares about you, and no one has very strong feelings about what you have to say. I don’t think it’s going to get very far. I think you’re going to. I think obviously the way that we approach politics, I mean, you can get a lot further when you have ideas outside of the mainstream through controversy.

 

Like if you look at the rise of Pauline Hanson or the rise of Donald Trump or these kind of populist politicians that have actually accumulated a decent amount of support, even though we have criticisms of them due to their flaws, the reason they got that base of support was by being attacked by the media constantly, by being controversial and it’s a common trope. Same with Nigel Farage in Britain or all these kind of populist Right-wing politicians that have any kind of success. Again, these people are all Zionist cucks, but at the same time they understand that controversy is currency in, particularly on the political Right in the contemporary era.

 

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And I think the few the future of Rightwing politics is going to depend on who can channel controversy to their best benefit as opposed to those who run away from it. Similar with March for Australia. March for Australia didn’t shy away from controversy and that’s why it got so big and so hyped and had such a good attendance because it invited controversy, it got attacked by the media, it got attacked by the politicians and that just inspired people who hate the media and hate the politicians to come out and march where they otherwise might not have even heard of jacob Hersant: Definitely! So what did you want to talk about tonight? What’s on the agenda?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I thought the reason why I called the stream “Ain’t no party like the White Australia Party”, which is a LeBron James reference for those who know. But the reason why I called it that was because I thought it’s been a slow news week and we should talk probably about like the state of the movement, you know what the plan is over the next few months because obviously it was a big winter, we had a lot going on, particularly in August, now Tom’s in prison and so on.

 

And I think maybe the people would be interested in where we’re going with things. Obviously we’re working towards setting up this political party that’s like our main focus. And there’s not a rush because there isn’t, keep saying this, there’s no significant election until the end of next year, which is the Victorian state election. So there’s no rush. But at the same time we want to get this thing set up and launch.

 

So that’s obviously a lot of the focus that we have. So I thought we could talk about that, like what the plan is so that you know this. The people that are following along at home can know what the plan is and buy into it and get where we’re going.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, right now we’re focusing on just building up the amount of supporters that we have, specifically political supporters, because we need 1, 500 across the country to establish a federal party. Unfortunately, some of the work on the political party has been delayed because there’s just been a lot of reorganisation we’ve had to do with these charges that have been brought against a bunch of our members in Victoria in relation to the Camp Sovereignty incident where anti-fascists were attacking Australian patriots that were leaving the March for Australia.

 

So there was a scuffle there. A bunch of our people have been charged with violent disorder, given non-Association bail conditions and two of our members are in prison now, obviously one being Thomas national leader and another member which I won’t name. Hopefully we can get them out soon. We have a, we are organising another bail hearing for Tom and we’ve organised a bail hearing for the other member.

 

So hopefully there will be some good news in regard to that coming soon. So there hasn’t been much of an update other than so much.

 

There’s been so many people signing up to become political supporters in the wake of not only our winter nationals August 8, but also the March for Australia, August 31.

 

So there’s been a lot of people signing up. We haven’t yet reached that 1500 threshold but we’re majority of the way there and it couldn’t hurt to have a few more over that number. Obviously we’ll probably just allow it to go up further so that we have, we’re comfortably above that number when we actually establish the party.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So obviously we’ve got these, what we’re doing, excuse me, we’re doing regular events that are going to be opened up to our supporters. So that should be a good incentive people to go to White Australia.org. Sign up as a political supporter and then you can get invited to our seminars. When we put on nationals you can get invited to our national events which happen twice a year and you can be vetted to attend these types of events. You don’t have to join the Organisation as like a uniformed activist member. You can just, basically come to events like that it’s good for women, for maybe for old people, whatever. People that have sensitive professions, they feel like the commitment to being an activist is a bit much for them at this point in their life. You can still be somewhat involved, you can still come down and meet everyone and you can attend those types of events.

 

We’re gonna keep putting them on a regular basis and there’ll be speeches and so on. So get involved because yeah, go and sign up now by Australia.org and our seminars that are happening in about two weeks time. You can potentially come along to those.

 

But yeah, anyway, the, yeah, I think we should talk about a bit about the party itself because the way that I see it at this point, the way that the kind of political system is shifting. You know, we’ve seen the polling from the election was back in like what, April to now. So like in half a year, One Nation has like doubled its vote according to the polls. It’s now polling at like 13%. It’s polling above the Greens. Now the third biggest party in the country, the Liberals, are down to like 27%. So One Nation is almost at half the Liberal vote. And that’s not including all the other Right-wing parties. Like Trumpet of Patriots, I think was polling at 2% and the other parties make up an extra smaller percentage.

 

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So the non-Liberal Party Right-wing vote is now crossed over the point where it’s like over half of the Liberal Party vote. And each time they do a poll, it seems like that number keeps closing and closing. The issues that we care about seem to be getting a lot of traction in political discourse. All the polling shows that people are increasingly dissatisfied with mass immigration and things like that.

 

Obviously the March for Australia was a huge bellwether for where public sentiment is on that issue. But the issue that we have in Australia, I think with distinction to Western Europe and even America, is that it’s not really happening for young voters.

 

If you look at the polling by age demographic Zoomers, Millennials, they’re not really going to the Right in the way that they are in America. Look at the polling in America, Zoomers are actually like more Right-wing than Boomers. Like Zoomers are the most Right-wing generation, which is like crazy! If you said that 10 years ago, no one would believe you because it used to be the complete inverse trend. Similar trends as well in Europe, where the Right-wing populist party is very popular with young voters. Conservative parties, not so much. But Right-wing populist parties, you know, are.

 

And what we see in Australia, because One Nation is kind of, it’s kind of like a Boomer party. It’s Boomer coded, it’s run by Boomers. Its leaders are old. It’s been around for decades. It was kind of at its zenith in the late 90s when it first launched. It doesn’t feel particularly fresh or new or dynamic. It doesn’t really appeal to young voters and they don’t know how to campaign to young voters or whatever. It just seems to be Boomers that are pissed off about immigration jumping ship to One Nation from Liberals or something.

 

And so there’s a massive gap in the market for a kind of youth focused nationalism where no one is really meeting that market right now! And I don’t really see anyone else in Australian politics that could meet that market except us. We are literally young. We’re in those, that age demographic as people than pretty much all of us.

 

And obviously our messaging and our promotion, it’s very like focused upon like on younger people, younger generations, people under the age of say like 35. You know, the way that we kind of put out our content and the way that it spreads online and so on, it appeals more to that kind of spectrum. So we think we have a golden opportunity where there’s like this market opportunity in Australian politics where no one is really competently. There isn’t like some Zionist populist Right party like they have been in Britain, or a lot of Western European countries that really appeals to that demographic in the same way. But the trends are all going in that direction where that demographic, something is going to have to emerge ultimately to cater to them.

 

And so we’ve got a golden opportunity I think to launch our party and actually have a untapped potential to draw voters from. Not that we can win an election off the back of just like young White voters, they’re outnumbered.

 

But the way that Senate works or Upper House elections work in the States, if you can get that 8%, Ralph Babet got elected to the Senate with 4.6% of the primary vote in Victoria, for example. You only need to get that radical fraction to come to your side and you can get people in into Parliament. So you know, there’s a lot of benefits to launching the party just in terms of like propping up our legal status within the system.

 

But I think that we have a proper chance of actually getting someone elected. And if we get just like one person elected, it’s infinitely more significant than any other party getting one person elected. Because it would be like a Nazi getting elected to Parliament. Like it’d be like international news story. It would be a really big deal, like the first Nazi elected in any English speaking country like ever!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, there are many, many benefits to the party. That’s why we’re doing it. First being the legal protections that hopefully we can be afforded by actually being a political party. A lot of the time when we go into court, Victoria police will lie through their teeth and say:

 

“This isn’t a political organisation at all! This isn’t a registered political party. It’s a criminal group. A criminal group focused on putting up stickers!”

 

Political stickers I guess. And that has been quite annoying. If we establish a political party, the police will no longer be able to lie like that. And hopefully it will put the, it will kind of put the police on notice that they can’t keep using the same tactics that they have been using against the National Socialist Network particularly anymore.

 

So that’s what we’re hoping for. Maybe it won’t actually be that circumstance. A lot of the time these supposed liberal Democrats don’t actually care about liberal democracy, don’t care about the system they profess to defend. So this is just speculation. We’ll have to see what actually happens.

 

Another benefit is I, like you said I think we can get people elected. And when it comes to the long term strategy of the party, I think that eventually if enough energy goes into it and enough, enough people actually vote for it, we can get a substantial amount of people elected. Not to obviously take power, take a majority government, but just to have a bargaining chip, more or less being able to.

 

Actually, these other parties will have to come to us if they want to pass legislation that requires the other party, the major party in this, in this, in most cases it will be Liberal and Labor. If they want to pass legislation, they may need some of our politicians to vote for something.

 

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So when you gain that power, you can use it to great effect. Especially if you are, if you have the right strategy and you have the right mindset where obviously if we were involved in politics, we’re not just going to be like any other minor party. We’re going to be causing all kinds of chaos. So we’ll have to see.

 

Like I remain, what I would say is I remain kind of cautiously optimistic about it. Like, it’s not something that I’m wedded to, something that I’m like, we have to do this, otherwise you know, everything’s gonna go to hell! There’s all these other projects that we’re working on as well, whether it be the street activism or community building and just the meta-political struggle we’re doing as well. So people need to understand that the political party isn’t the main thing. It’s not the only thing that we’re doing. Because a lot of people, when they think of politics, they think of party politics and they think that’s the only thing that matters. That is the whole game. Like if it is political, then it’s necessarily party politics.

 

But we have a completely different understanding of politics. We see it as broader and see our movement and what we have to do to further that movement as being broader than only party politics.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s true. But at the same time, I think the advantage of the political party, one of the main advantages is that it provides a way for the Australian public to buy into the movement en masse. Where if you’re just doing street rallies in uniform, it’s a pretty big step for a lot of people to go from just thinking that the video was cool to joining us and becoming one of us. But if you have a political party, it’s well, they could give you a vote, they could consider you as someone that they would vote for and that moves them into a position where now they’re supporting a National Socialist party and then that then maybe a larger percentage of them will then want to take the next step and the next step and the next step of involvement from there. So it provides, it’s good to provide a certain soft on ramp to the movement where it becomes accessible where people can see you as a viable alternative. Otherwise they get this view of like, well those guys in black, they’re pretty cool! But those ideas are obviously too extreme for the political system. And so I’m just going to have to vote for One Nation or something. If we give them an actual option to rally behind and they can go fuck one nation. All these Boomer cuck Sydney parties, I want the real deal, full spectrum.

 

So also, this is also part of why I think Liberal death., …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, it’s important to give every like as many means to support the movement as possible. Whether it be donating or becoming a member or giving a vote or all these kind of things. So once we get a political party up, it’s just another way that people can support us. And yeah, that is very important. That’s a good point to bring up.

 

And another thing is if we get people elected, well then we can have, we can be given salaries to be full-time political soldiers, more or less. And all these establishment parties are, they’re kind of bolstered by these salaries that are being given out by the taxpayer. But we are pursuing our political mission without any taxpayer money! If we were given access to that through having our politicians elected and having staffers work with those politicians, imagine how much more work that we could do. Like these people are just taking the money of the taxpayer and wasting it on race treason and, or in the case of these smaller Right-wing parties, they’re just wasting it on Boomer nonsense that’s never, never going to change anything. Never going to save our race. We, despite having no money, are doing much more than they are. Imagine if the system was giving us some money or the taxpayer, rather. It’s not really the system, but the taxpayer.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean we are starting to get some resources behind us and that will continue. That’s the other thing as well with the political party people are going to be more inclined to join as members. They’re gonna back it. And so we can then create better propaganda as a movement because we’ll have like a party machine churning it out in general, it’s just like a, the obvious organisational structure or political movement.

 

And then also it’s like the legitimacy advantage as well. If you have someone in Parliament, it’s just like natural people would start taking it more seriously, like, as like a viable. It’s a viable thing. And if we’re in the Parliament and we’re in the black jackets or something in Parliament, everyone else is in a suit and we’re calling out the politicians, it’s going to be quite the spectacle! We’ll turn the Parliament into the usher, basically and the kind of stunts that we could pull in there and so on.

 

You also have Parliamentary privilege if you can Fed post in Parliament, like no legal charges can be laid against you can say anything. We could try and organise diplomatic visas for like, controversial people. There’s lots of things we could do. So it opens up a lot of interesting doors that we could exploit to our advantage.

 

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But also we can give a voice to White Australians in the halls of power, which currently there is none. There is no voice for our people. And that’s obviously the main purpose of it is like the whole idea supposedly of representative democracy is you have politicians that represent you. Well, if you’re a nationalist, there are no politicians that represent you know, so you’re kind of picking over crumbs and coping about how this cuked politician kind of said something that’s kind of okay. You want someone to go in there and hold these politicians to account, call them out and tell it like it is. That’s supposed, you know, speak truth to power. That’s supposed to be the whole point of the representative democratic system or whatever. So we want to actually give the Australian people real democracy.

 

And if they don’t let us register the party, then we can show the Australian people that they don’t have a real democracy. They need to be, they need to see that made explicit to them because we give the system an option, either let us participate or destroy your own legitimacy to block us from participating. And it’s a choice. And I personally think we will be able to participate because of how robust Australian constitutional law is in regards to political parties. They tried to ban the Communist party in the 1950s, it failed. They went to a referendum to try and change the Constitution to enable them to ban the Communist Party. That referendum failed at the height of the Cold War. Very conservative political process at that time still failed. So it’s pretty airtight. They can’t block us. There have been registered National Socialist political parties in Australian history, you know, back in the 70s and so on.

 

So this precedent, it is not legally possible for them to block us without like an egregious unconstitutional action. And if they try to go to a referendum to try and ban us, the Australian people, I believe will vote that they can’t ban us. And it will just be another huge win!

 

So we’re going to put the system in a position where it’s kind of going to have to tolerate us if it doesn’t want to nuke itself and its own legitimacy. So we do that a lot. But this, I think in this instance it’s a much bigger, higher stakes proposition to the system where just like persecuting us over a political demonstration or something, it is a cost on legitimacy. But it isn’t as intense banning a political party. It’s a way bigger cost on its legitimacy.

 

So I don’t think they will do that. I think they’ll allow us to register, allow us to participate and I think we’ll surprise a lot of people with how successful we are. It’s going to be a lot of fun designing these campaigns. They’re going to be dynamic, they’re going to be interesting working on the policies at the moment. We’re going to have policies that are really powerful, that are conversation starters.

 

And again, talking about the meta-politics of what we’re doing, it’s going to have an effect on the rest of the political system. If we start gaining traction and having success, the other Right-wing parties are going to start moving to the Right. It’s going to shift the entire structure of the system. And that’s also why I’ve been promoting Total Liberal death. Because if we can lower the amount of votes going to the Liberal Party and direct them into the constellation of other rhyming parties, it’ll be a situation where the Right cannot govern as one party and it will fought before still like work as a coalition, a kind of uneasy coalition. And in that chaos, we can get a seat at the table and try and use that seat at the table to try and push for the most radical policies possible.

 

Jacob Hersant: I agree. Yeah, I agree. I don’t have much to add other than that. Yeah, I think we’ve covered the topic pretty well.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Do you want to, do you want to get into. You put out a post today saying we will not be attending October 19, March for Australia. Do you want to discuss that?

 

We will not be attending. But I want to preface it by saying that we have a good relationship with the organisers. We wish the march well. We hope that’s success. But in terms of our priorities as an organisation, we don’t think it makes sense for us to go again this time. We want to save our grill for Australia Day.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Got the reasons why in the post why we decided against it for this one.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes. So I made a statement saying that we’re not going to be showing up and I explained the reasons why because otherwise there was going to be speculation. This is, I guess it’s a tactical disagreement between us and March for Australia. It’s not a disagreement in ideals or we don’t oppose the organisation or anything like that. We like March for Australia and we’re happy to work with them again.

 

It’s just that in this circumstance, as you said, it doesn’t make sense for our organisation to participate again. We have a lot of things on that we have to do. We, well, we got to organise. We’ve got a lot of events going on in October as well. And when we attend these events, we bear a lot of the brunt of the consequences of those events. And we’re happy to do that when it’s a circumstance where we agree with it. We rally all the time, we do activism all the time and we face the consequences all the time.

 

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But when it comes to, we’re selective with our activism, we really want it to be something novel, a message that we want put out there or even just one that if there hasn’t been a rally in a while, then I could understand doing a rally similar like that, similar to what they’re doing. But the issue is we don’t really see there as being a compelling reason, compelling reason to mobilise and I guess, you know, face the consequences, which. Yeah, I think we wouldn’t face any consequences anywhere other than Melbourne, where there’s obviously these violent Antifa. Even then I think it may be a circumstance where these Antifa are already beaten because they didn’t show up to that other cuck rally that was in September, the one that was organised in opposition to March for Australia. None of the Antifa showed up to that even though and you may say okay, the reason they didn’t show up to that was because they understood these were the cucked Right and they weren’t the Black Shirts or the March for Australia ethno-nationalists. But I don’t think Leftists make that distinction. I think anyone to the right of them is a neo-Nazi whether they like it or not.

 

So I was very surprised that that march wasn’t met with any violence and I think the reason was because they got the absolute piss beaten out of them last time maybe the reason why they didn’t do anything. So it may be that circumstances again. So there could be a situation where we wouldn’t even bear any consequences for this. Maybe the Left are just too scared to use violence against the marchers and let’s hope that’s the case because we don’t want anyone getting attacked for their, for their political views on our side. So yeah but it makes sense for us not to, not to, not to go to this one.

 

But as I said in the post we will be working with them again in the future particularly for Australia Day.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So in Melbourne I think Matt Trihey is going to be running today from the National Workers alliance who’s a solid guy, solid ethno-nationalist. A friend of ours and he’s alleged that he’s a ex-professional MMA fighter. Solid, solid ideologically has been for a long time. Doesn’t cuck on anything, not even the jewish question. Refuses to have people on the stage given speeches that they don’t meet a standard of being a true nationalist. So you know I think all power to him, support to him. I think Blair has worked with him a lot in the past so I’m sure Blair is going to help him out on this one. So we wish the march every success in Melbourne. In particular because it’s going to be our friends still doing the bit on the day and it’s an opportunity for because there was a lot of controversy about us being there.

 

The reason why we intervened in all August 31st as Sewell explained beforehand was because we wanted to make sure that Zionists and other you know, influence groups didn’t come in and take over the march and make it about them. And so we intervened because us just saying that we’re going to go pushes out a lot of those types. And also we kind of elbowed them, helped elbow them out the way behind the scenes. And we supported the organisers because none of the organisers are members of our organisation, but we know them to be actual nationalists.

 

And so even though maybe they don’t do the Hitler thing, whatever their private views are on the subject, we know that they are genuine nationalists and they care about our people when they’re doing it for the right reasons. So that’s why we supported them. And there was a lot of disputes between different in the nature of an event like that, between different elements that will:

 

“Keep the Nazis away and so on!”

 

But the actual organisers maintained a solid stance and said we’re welcome:

 

“They’re nationalists. They deserve to be here. They’re against immigration too.”

 

And so it’s adorable they didn’t cuck. They kept the messaging solid. The event was a huge success. And so they deserve respect for doing that because there’s a lot of people that do tuck under that kind of pressure. I think we added a lot of value to the event, like by going because we enhanced the controversy around the event.

 

But at the same time people said, oh well if the Nazis go, it makes Antifa attack everyone and it makes ruins the event. So now they have an opportunity to do it without us. And we can see like what, how that goes. You know, maybe us not being there all the people that said us not being there is going to make the event better and so on. Well, now you get to have your event. And everyone that said that we’re feds, that we just came down to the event to try and hijack it in order to give the media a certain narrative or de-legitimize the event. Well, here you go. Not even going to go to this one. So we’re not feds.

 

But yeah, the reality would be like if we rocked up in Melbourne again and we tend to do things nationally as a group, like if we’re going to do it somewhere, we do it everywhere. You know, we try to operate as a national group. We’re going to mobilise again in Melbourne, it’s probably going to mean potentially a whole bunch more assault charges.

 

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Whereas, you know, we, you know, we’ve got to save our grill. Like Australia Day is going to be huge. I know much for Australia want to go again on Australia Day. I think that’s going to be massive because we’ve had these Invasion Day communist Aboriginal garbage rallies taken over our cities year after year on Australia Day for a while now with no official Australia Day celebration. And it can’t go on. We have to take Australia Day. We have to take our cities back on Australia Day. Australia Day has to be a celebration of our national identity and it can’t just be openly like disrespected and counter-protested and like they’re trying to basically make Australian pride illegal, get rid of all official celebrations of it to de-legitimize the fact that it’s our country, obviously. So it’s an attack on us. It’s not just about the day, it’s about what it means.

 

So we’re all in on that. And I hope that this event is successful so that it can be a kind of amplifier to a big Australia Day rally.

 

So we ’re not saying the event is cucked and therefore we’re not supporting it or some shit like that! I hope no one gets it twisted. We’re not trying to counter signal the event. It’s just our organisational priorities are like when we go, when the average person goes to a rally like this, the chances of them getting arrested or something like is much lower than if we go obviously. So we have to calculate that in our decision making.

 

And then also for the average person, they don’t really do anything politically. Like going to a March for Australia is like the one thing they’ve done this year that’s political organising. Whereas for us we’re trying to put on seminars, we’re organising a series of other events within our organisation and we’re trying to build up to launching our political party. And we’ve got our own brand. We don’t want to just become the March for Australia Black Shirts. We want to keep doing NSN rallies.

 

So yeah, I think it makes sense for all those reasons why we’re not going, but we wish them well. And it’ll be interesting, I guess, to see how it goes. Again. Sydney, they’re trying to take, they’re gonna take Hyde Park this time, which is like usually full of pro-Palestine protesters every weekend. So it’d be nice for it to be full of Australian flags instead.

 

But yeah. Is there much anything else you want to add on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, we covered it.

 

Joel Davis: But yeah, I think for the broader. This is a question I wanted to ask you about or get your thoughts on. And I presume you would have a similar view, but maybe you’d have a slightly different view. So it could be interesting.

 

There’s some debate that because obviously you get like conservatives who will say like horseshoe theory type stuff, oh, National Socialism and communism is actually very similar and like they’re two strains of the same virus and they’re all the same. And which is obviously insane! Right. But they say this kind of thing then you’ll get people on our side who will say:

 

“Oh, National Socialism isn’t Left-wing or Right-wing. And so we shouldn’t identify as being part of the Right-wing, we shouldn’t identify as the far-Right, we should identify as a Third Position.”

 

And obviously there’s some logic to that position.

 

But at the same time I think that that’s the incorrect way of going about things for two reasons. One, when National Socialism and fascism was first invented, what kind of denominator the political spectrum was quite different. It was a lot more about like climate, class distinctions than it is today. Today the Right and the Left aren’t really about what class you side with or your views on the Monarchy or the aristocracy or these types of things. It’s a lot more frankly like whether you oppose or have some sympathy to nationalism directionally.

 

And I think that should be encouraged. I think we should encourage the redefinition because Left and Right, as is just a relative determination like through history, it’s meant different things. Originally it meant do you support completely getting rid of the Monarchy and the aristocracy or you’re a conservative that supports retaining a certain amount of aristocratic privilege, or a constitutional monarchy or something like that.

 

And then also do you support the Church having like a prominent role in the state or not or whatever. And the Left were like get rid of it all, equalise everything. Then obviously the Left became a lot more about socialism, a lot more rather than just that liberal opposition to old world monarchism. And then it became kind of socialism versus like bourgeois liberalism which became the Right. And it became like your position on capitalism, your position on wage distribution or income distribution and things like that, redistribution, etc.

 

But I think increasingly that’s not the case anymore. I think a lot of people identify with the political Right-wing, but actually have so-called Left-wing or socialist views on economic policies, but they just support the Right-wing because they’re anti-immigration or they’re anti-trans or you know, that type of thing. They support Right-wing social policies. And a lot of people on the Left. What really animates them is those issues as well. Like they, you’ll get Leftists who you know, left us agree with billionaires that immigration is good for example. They don’t seem to really care about the White working class, seem to only care about brown people and black people or whatever and like their interests. There’s a lot of people on the Left that just want all the CEOs to become brown and black and then they support capitalism as long as it’s no longer like you know, propping up the White race or something in their perception.

 

So I think race is increasingly the main dividing issue on Left and Right and we should encourage this. We should like think, amplify it and say yes, us as like the pure position on this issue on the far-Right and the most ultra left are the most anti-White and everyone else kind of plots within that distinction. And we should try overcode the Left-Right dichotomy with our framework, our racialised framework and position ourselves on the far-Right.

 

Would you agree with that as like a orientation or would you side with the Third Positionist position?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not wedded to either really. I see validity in both kind of ways of framing it. Obviously we have some similarities with socialism being on the Left and then in terms of our values in nationalism and traditionalism, that’s more associated with the Right-wing.

 

So when you use that framework to talk about those similarities we have with the movement saying that we’re nationalists but we’re also socialists, sometimes going from that Third Position lens is useful when you’re trying to convince someone or persuade someone to become a National Socialist.

 

But at the same time I also like, I like being called far-Right man. I think it sounds good. I like being the furthest to the Right being the most pure position and I like the fact that when you’re right about something, you’re correct about something. We are far-Right, we are far correct, we are the most correct position and everything else is a watering down of our position. And the further you go, you go to the far-Left and that is, it’s good to have that contrast because I don’t think anyone’s going to be convinced by horseshoe theory. Because when you look at Black Shirts, we look like, we do look like the far-Right. That’s what you look at the far-Right. That’s what you would expect to see someone with a good haircut. Clean shaven, wearing all black, just proper like old school kind of look.

 

And then you look at the far-Left, it’s the complete opposite of that, where they’re disheveled, transgender freaks, spiteful mutants and all of that kind of stuff. So people, they look at the difference between our two groups, like let’s say the Victorian Socialists on one hand and then the National Social Network, despite the fact that you have the word socialist in it, look at the two groups and then try to say that they’re the same thing. It’s insanity! And that’s why it’s confined to midwits like Drew Pavlou, who’s, who used this type of argumentation because it’s not convincing. It’s so different from how things actually are. So I like both, I like calling myself far-Right, but when it comes to saying:

 

“Hey, actually we have some agreements with, I guess what you would call the historical left.”

 

Because most of the, most of the Left-Right now aren’t very socialistic when it comes to like the Labor Party and things like that. So I like being able to talk about that, but I also like being able to identify as far-Right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s fair enough.

 

But obviously Left and Right is a relativistic determination.

 

So originally classical liberals the original liberals were actually on the Left during that time, like I’m talking about the French Revolution or something.

 

Whereas like the so-called conservatives of today, they identify as liberals they are ideological liberals. The average member of the Liberal Party that is apparently a conservative or Liberal Party voter doesn’t support absolute monarchy or aristocratic peerage or like any of these, like the, like the clergy having like representation in the Senate or something like there would never support, or maybe a few of them would, but pretty much none of them would support things like that or even to conceive of them, which is what the traditional Right supported against the Leftists who were like, no, it should be one vote once per citizen, shouldn’t matter what social class you come from, whatever. So these things change over time. So we could have agreements with the historical Left, but so do conservatives. Conservatives literally are the historical Left, like in every respect.

 

And then when it comes to what the current left gets offended by, if I go up to a Leftist and say:

 

“Hey, I might have some agreement with you on, I don’t know, environmentalism, or I might have some agreement with you on like defending, you know, state funded healthcare systems or whatever.”

 

Now I’m going to be like:

 

“Oh, well, you know, it’s, just you being a racist, it’s not that big of a deal. Like we agree on most things. Let’s like try and work together to those ends. Let’s try and get all these different environmentalist and socialist policies passed and we could just leave the race discussion for later.”

 

They’re never going to do that! It’s far more likely that people on the Right-wing who are already anti-immigration and are already nationalists, but maybe they biased, what’s more of a free market system. They’re more likely to say:

 

“Oh well we agree on all of this stuff, but we don’t necessarily agree on economic policy, but we could still kind of work together.”

 

That’s way more likely that that’s going to happen. So like, obviously, therefore we’re on the Right because what fundamentally animates each side morally is those more fundamental social, like racial issues. And no, we’re not like communists when it comes to economics either. National Socialists defended private property. They defended small businesses. If you read about what the election campaigns were like in Germany in the late 1920s, early 1930s, the other Right-wing parties of that time, a lot of them tried to criticise the National Socialists for having like Bolshevik economic policies or whatever. Like that was actually an argument that they used.

 

And in those days, like it wasn’t like the NSDAP was considered controversial because it was racist or anti-semitic. Like half the parties were racist. Almost all the parties are racist and anti-semitic in Germany in the late 1920s, and early 1930s. So it was a completely different era.

 

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But in the kind of debates they would have, the National Socialists would defend themselves saying:

 

“No, we support defending private property, we support defending agriculture. We support defending, you know, small businesses. We don’t support this kind of Americanised capitalism where these mega corporations take over all of these industries and remove your experience of being a worker, or a consumer completely alienated from your local context and make you a cog in this international machine run by jewish finance. We don’t support that. We support localism, we support mom and pop stores.”

 

And these are the types of things that conservatives care about apparently, like the party of small business. That’s what Liberals present themselves as, even though they’re really the party of big business. So that doesn’t sound like the same thing as a communist. You know, communists talk about how:

 

“We’ve got to like execute landlords and small business, big business doesn’t matter, they’re all capitalist scum and they all need to hang!”

 

You know, that’s completely different. National Socialism is not just like racist communism. It is like clearly distinct.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well that’s why you have the term National Bolshevism. Yeah, that describes what these people are describing and it’s a more or less a meme ideology now. Nobody really believes in it or is actually fighting for it. So yeah, it’s not an issue.

 

But I remember Jonathan Bowden to move back to the previous point. Jonathan Bowden, he defined the Right and the Left based on whether or not you support inequality or equality. But I think, which I think describes more or less the what you’re talking about as well.

 

But I think it’s easier for people to understand when it’s framed around nationalism and then I guess race treason and national treason on the other end. That’s probably easier for people to understand.

 

But that is more or less the defining Right versus Left-wing nowadays because it’s such a crucial and visceral issue that is defining this whole age like whether or not nationalism is going to win or you know, national treason. We need like a better word for that. I guess just race treason. Race treason. National treason. I guess anti-Whiteism. What do we put on the other end? What’s the Left defined by?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think it’s just defined by like White genocide basically. You’re either you’re non-White and actively supporting the theft of Western nations from the White race or you’re a race traitor White person who actively supports it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, White survival on one end and then White genocide on the other? That really is what is animating all of these political groups. But we also got to understand that what we call Right-wing parties today are more or less Left-wing parties. Like the people that vote for them tend to be Right-wing.

 

But then they’re betrayed over and over again by the politicians who they want to represent them. They don’t represent them at all! They take their votes, they take their money and they’re happy and then they Institute a similar agenda as the rest of the Left. The rest of the race traitors and traitors to Australia.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is part of why I supported in my article I wrote before the election “Reconceptualizing Liberal Party as a Left-wing party”. Because on policy it is a Left-wing party. Like name one Right-wing policy that Liberals have. You can’t, because there isn’t one. The Liberals were the party that were responsible for taking away our guns. They were the party responsible for passing gay marriage. They were the party responsible for institutionalizing multiculturalism as government policy under Fraser in the late 70s, Liberal Party openly declared, like Scott Morrison, ex-leader, ex-prime minister, Liberal Party said:

 

“We are the party that ended the White Australia Policy!”

 

He’s right. They were. The Liberal Party time and time again has, basically facilitated the agenda of the Left.

 

So why is it conceived of as a Right-wing party? It just shouldn’t. We should just like move the centre of Australian politics from one side of the Liberal Party to the other side. I think that’s a really easy distinction to make and one that needs to happen. That’s why again, I support Total Liberal Death.

 

One thing that we should be able to agree upon with the Right, even if you think we’re a little extreme for you is we’re going to destroy the Liberal Party because it is this traitorous entity that just sucks all the energy out of the general Right-wing and subordinates it to the interests of the establishment which is fundamentally defined by basically Left-wing social policies straight up and down the ticket. Like the Liberal Party supports transgenderism.

 

I remember there was a time I was still living in Sydney, but I was coming down to visit the boys in Melbourne a lot a few years ago and I made a trip down to Melbourne for some other reason. I think it was because the Stop Immigration rally was happening and some other things and I was like:

 

“Well, if I’m going to be in Melbourne, there was like all these Drag Queen Story Hours that were happening. Might as well just try and like attack these Drag Queen Story Hours.”

 

And so I started creating campaigns to like mobilise people to attack certain Drag Queen Story Hours. And I think Sewell was like:

 

“Yeah, let’s like mobilise like the NSN, the counter-protest one of them.”

 

But we didn’t have to counter-protest any of them because we just kept getting them shut down. As soon as like we started like attacking it and getting people to like call up and you know, complain and saying we’re going to do a kind of protest rally at the front of the child care centre or library or wherever it was being held. That would just pull it! The police would advise them to pull it and, or that they would buckle under the pressure and they’d pull it.

 

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And so we got so many of these Drag Queen Story Hours shut down across Melbourne that it frustrated the Premier. I think at the time Dan Andrews was still premier. I think it was before he stepped down. That he actually held the Drag Queen Story Hour inside Parliament with all the media just to like, because it was the one place where we couldn’t get it shut down by threatening to counter-protest it.

 

And then at the time, John Pudo [sp] was the leader of the Victorian Liberal Party and he came out into the media, he was so upset about this Drag Queen Story Hour being held in Parliament because he wasn’t invited! Because he wasn’t invited. He said:

 

“How dare they not invite me. No one supports transgenderism more than Liberal Party. We love transgenderism even more than the Labor Party. And this is an outrage! They would try and portray us as an anti-trans, anti-LGBT party. We love gay people, we love trans people and so on.”

 

So that’s the Liberal Party, right? Just like let that sink in for a second. This is your so-called Right-wing party. Like it’s a joke!

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s been interesting seeing the shills come out and try to mobilise and what’s the word? Recuperate some Right-wing support for the Liberal Party with this Andrew Hastie character. So I saw a video of him where he was, I guess, lamenting the fact that Australia’s car industry has died, which the Liberals did nothing to save anyway. But he was lamenting that with like a antique car. And he had a flashy video for it.

 

And this is what is being kind of dangled before the Right-wing to try and recuperate some support for the Liberal Party. And I’ve seen that you’ve been coming out against it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we’ve been talking about how Andrew Hastie is a faggot for the last two weeks in a row, on The Joel and Blair Show. So all viewers probably heard the talking points.

 

But yeah, I saw Andrew Hastie announced that he was stepping down from the front bench stepping or the shadow front bench because of the Liberal Party’s pro-immigration policies.

 

So I guess it’s kind of interesting that he’s tipped to probably make a leadership challenge next year. From what I heard from my sources inside the Liberal Party, he actually has the numbers. And considering the way things are going, the Liberals keep bleeding votes in the polls to One Nation and everything is kind of shifting to the Right in general discourse and public dissatisfaction. And we’re going to keep probably we’re going to keep definitely pouring kerosene on the fire of anti-immigration sentiment.

 

And so that trend will probably continue. I could see him being successful next year and Liberal Party trying to rebrand as you know, a more of an anti-immigration party in order to win votes in 2028 because otherwise, … It’s not so much that they’re losing votes to the Labor Party at this point or to the Teals, they’re losing votes to One Nation and other Right-wing parties and that’s existential for Liberal Party. If they lose the base they could become a micro party. They could never be a major party again, which is absolutely fantastic! So I support Sussan Ley. Hail Sussan Ley! She’s doing an incredible job, Agent Susan, destroying the Liberal Party. But unfortunately she’s doing too good of a job maybe. And so we accelerated too hard or something there and it could unravel.

 

But it’s very important that Andrew Hastie and this if he does get the leadership. He’s not believed! Because at the end of the day the Liberal Party is funded by corporate and industrial lobbyists that benefit from mass immigration. And they all, you know what he said was we’re going to, we should cut immigration to 2019 pre-covered levels which is still hundreds of thousands a year, net half a million a year gross. Over half a million people immigrated to Australia in 2019, I think it was like 200,000 roughly net over half a million gross.

 

And as I said earlier like quarter of a million plus Australians emigrate away from Australia every year, move to other countries. Most of them are White and most people coming in are not White. So 500,000 mostly not Whites coming in, 300,000 mostly Whites leaving. You do that for you know, the next 20 years, White people become a minority in this country. That’s what Andrew Hastie is offering you. So how is that worth supporting or rallying behind?

 

Also what it shows is that the only way it does occur, Andrew Hayesi does take power in the Liberal Party and they do pivot on their messaging. But what it shows is taking support away from the Liberal Party is the only way to make the Liberal Party become more Right-wing. If you give it all of its support, it just tries to win Left-wing votes at the centre, take away the support. Then it tries to actually listen to its own voters because that now it needs to. But at that point you’ve already got other parties that are better than the Liberal Party and other options that are better than the Liberal Party that are getting your support. So why would you take it back to the Liberal Party, just keep it over there? You know, so it’s like a, the incentive structure if you’re a Right-wing to support Liberal Party, isn’t there? The less you support it, the better it will get. The more you support it, the worse it will get.

 

So why support it?

 

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Jacob Hersant: That is a good point. Yeah, I think this Andrew Hastie, it’s always not genuine when it comes to the, all this posturing and then they’re just going to continue immigration and it’s bizarre! It’s bizarre because you think they would pull the brake on it a little bit. Like what are the housing prices like in Sydney now? Somebody like showed it to me a few days ago and I couldn’t believe my eyes how expensive it is. And now they’re bringing in what’s the new legislation that brought in where it’s, I think you only have to have 5% now to get a, of the down payment to get a mortgage for a house. It’s just insanity! Like they’re just pumping up the usury even more. They’re pumping up the problems not only in terms of immigration and demand but then also economically. Like I don’t even understand what is happening. Maybe you’re going to have to explain it to me, Joel.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, like the average house price in Sydney I think is over $2 million now, which is the average, I think the average income is about $100,000 a year.

 

So that’s 20 years average salary to buy a home. Obviously you can’t spend all your salary on just on mortgage repayments and then you’ve got interest on top of that. So basically if you’re taking out a 5% deposit loan as an like permanent debt slavery basically like just mathematically as like an adult.

 

Jacob Hersant: Could you even pay it off though? Even if you’re doing it somewhat, …

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think the bank would give it to you. I don’t think the bank would actually approve you for a loan at that, at those, on those. If you’re only earning $100,000 a year and you tried to buy a 2 million dollar house and you only had whatever 5% of that is like 100 grand deposit, I don’t think you could approve that. But like if they try to like force them to approve it through legislation. Like obviously that’s insanity!

 

And then also this whole system is just dependent upon. Then once you buy into the housing bubble and you get mortgaged up to the shit house in order to buy into it, well then now you’re basically kind of like leverage on it, continuing to expand because adding equity to your home is the only way that that becomes like financially viable. Like so then you’re not going to want to then support like cutting house prices in half by mass deporting 8 million non-Whites. Because that fucks you over. Which is why one of our keynote policies is going to be nationalizing the mortgage lending market and engaging in mass debt forgiveness. You’re going to have to write off a bunch of this debt in order to make it work, otherwise because we have to bring house prices down in order for housing to be affordable.

 

But we also have to like provide a way out for the people that got a mortgage to buy it. Like you know, they saved up, they worked hard, they got a massive mortgage for a massively overpriced property. We need to provide them with a relief as well. Like in order to like free them from debt slavery so that we can rebuild the middle class. Like it’s the only way to do it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Is there anything else you want to talk about or should we go on to the Superchats?

 

Joel Davis: There isn’t that many Superchats because everyone’s being a cheap cunt tonight.

 

So we should probably, I don’t know pick one more subject.

 

Jacob Hersant: Talking about housing prices and it made them think about they’re being more sober with their spending.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Yeah. What else is there to discuss? I guess another subject we could discuss. I guess is the subject of women in the movement. Seen a lot of like a lot more women in the movement lately. A lot more women online supporting policy. There was the poll that came out recently that showed Australian women actually have more negative attitudes towards immigration than Australian men. Of course, according to one poll. Obviously it’s one poll, but I thought that was interesting.

 

Obviously there’s the statistic that I think in the 1932 election the NSDAP actually got more votes from women than it got from men. So you know, we’ve said a lot of misogynistic things on the show over the years and I don’t take any of it back. But at the same time that’s interesting to note and obviously we’re not going to have women in the NSN anytime soon or ever! But that’s partly because of we just don’t. We don’t think it’s safe for women to be engaged in that kind of activity. But we’re putting on these seminars or whatever. There is a way for women to be involved and to support the party, that aspect of the movement, be a political supporter, attend those kinds of events. So we are giving women something they can do, some way to get involved other than just like, breeding.

 

So we’re throwing you a bone, throwing you a bone! But do you have thoughts on that? Did you see that poll? Would you have thoughts on that poll? Do you think it’s accurate?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not sure if it’s accurate. I can’t really. I don’t have any information that I’m privy to that can confirm whether it’s real or false. But it is interesting. That’s the same parallel that I made or the same connection I made was to the fact that the NSDAP got more votes from women than it did men. And it’s an interesting fact. I don’t think I have any definitive position on whether or not it’s a good thing to have more men voting for your party or more women voting for your party. It’s something that I’d have to sit down and really think about for quite a while. I’m kind of embarrassed that I haven’t thought about it a little bit more. But I guess this is an impetus to actually do that.

 

But as as Joel was saying you can become involved in our movement and White Australia that is not in the National Socialist Network because the National Socialist Network is focused on street activism. And just go watch the August 31st footage if you want to see why women aren’t involved in the National Socialist Network because there was some brutality happening on that day. So I’m sure women will be happy, to be spared that. And if you aren’t, okay, that’s pretty cool! But anyway we’re not gonna. We’re not gonna subject you to that nonetheless.

 

So you can get involved. Yeah, we’re doing things like seminar and where all the partners of members of the National Socialist Network and broader White Australia. All of the partners, the women meet up. A lot of them have children, so they’ll meet up and have play dates and those kind of things.

 

So there’s a lot that women can do if they are inclined to get involved and if you have a partner as well that isn’t involved. You should encourage them to get involved with one of the things that we’re doing at the very least.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. If you’re a woman, learn how to sew. Or maybe you already know how to sew, even better. So are some Australian flags, some nice because like the ones you buy in the shop that aren’t actually made, they’re just like Chinese, like plastic garbage! You can like make us a nice cotton Australian flag or several make us some Union Jacks. You can make us whatever. Or even better message one of us, then we’ll give you like, we’ll give you like stuff to make. There’s a lot, there’s lots of jobs for the grandmas that are good at sewing out there for a second example that they could do behind the scenes. Some of the women do help out. Some of the partners have helped out with that kind of thing in the past.

 

So there’s like women can be involved in the community aspect and they can do jobs like that, but just don’t want them on the front lines. I think that’s pretty reasonable.

 

But as for this poll, so this poll, the question was:

 

“Do you think immigration to Australia is generally positive or generally negative for the country?”

 

And men in this poll had about a thousand respondents, which is kind of normal, statistically normal for these kinds of things. Men were 46% positive, 39% negative, 14% unsure. Women were only 37% positive. They were 43% negative and, 20% unsure.

 

So that was interesting. And I was thinking about why would that be the case? Let’s just say that it’s at accurate. So we were disputing the accuracy, but I think it’s still like worth considering. Well, if it is accurate, why and polling the science people like say really low IQ about how polling is junk and how can you infer things about general populations if you only have a thousand or two thousand people in a study? But no, polling is actually extremely accurate. It’s been shown to be extremely accurate many times before in where polling can pretty accurately predict, you know, election outcomes with only a very small degree of like, not like perfect, like 100% accuracy, but only with, very small amount of discrepancy. So polling is science with empirical veracity.

 

But anyway, the point is that why would this be the case? I thought about a few things. One, I think what I observed, I don’t have polling on this, but what I observed just from like being out in public in Australia and somebody who travels around to different cities in Australia quite often and has a lot of varied experiences. Is that in Australia, mixed race couples, I’d say 8 out of 10 of them is a White man with a non-White woman at least and very small. A much smaller percentage of it is a White woman with a non-White man. Also when you go to like bougie White flight areas in like Sydney and Melbourne, I see a lot more women there than men. And all those women seem single.

 

So it seems like White women are more inclined to White flighting than White men and they’re less inclined, at least in Australia to dating non-Whites than the other way around. There’s a lot of White guys with Asian GFs and you’re seeing them with Indian GFs these days, which is like, I mean, what the fuck are you doing? But we’re seeing this as an epidemic. And you could say this is partly women’s fault for being, having being too hypergamous and having too high expectations. And so White men are like forced onto the yellow or brown GF plantation because they’re easier to pick up than a White woman. But at the same time, whatever the case may be, that’s a dynamic that I’ve observed.

 

And so if White guys are all banging gooks, they’re more inclined to say immigration is good. I’ve noticed a kind of dynamic where figures on the Australian Right like Drew Pavlou or John Ruddick, when they got rid of their Asian missus, they started pivoting to a far more anti-immigration stance almost immediately afterwards.

 

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And I think there’s a correlation there. I think that there’s something to that. We’ve seen this many times with in like in general in the movement where you know, someone gets a non-White girlfriend and change their political opinions and vice versa because it makes sense.

 

Because if you’re going to breed with a non-White person, obviously everything changes in terms of what’s in your interest. When you become a full on like race traitor where you invest your genes in another race, then why would you care about White nationalism anymore? Now you’re invested in multi-racial society. So I thought maybe that could be one of the reasons why. Do you think that could be accurate?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I think women tend to race mix far less than men. And yeah, you’re right about that. Insofar as the most common race mixing couple that you’ll ever see is White man, Asian woman, at least in Australia, like you’ll see that quite frequently.

 

And I think it is for the reasons that you stated. And I want to hear your gradations of like, because you were saying I get it, why the Asian misses these pathetic White men are getting with the Asian women. But then you were far more disappointed about the fact that they’re getting with Indian women as well. [chuckling] So now we’re gonna have to hear like your [chuckling] hierarchy of like race fixing. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think it’s just objective. I mean, Asian women look like bugs. But like, obviously Indian women are next level disgusting! Like, Indians are the most putrid, unattractive race. They smell bad. They’re hairy as fuck! Asians don’t smell good either. But you have to be really close to them to realise that they smell bad. Whereas Indians, it’s a much more offensive odor. And you know.

 

Jacob Hersant: But where do blacks fit into there though?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I think having sex with the black woman is at least as gay as having sex with an Asian man! I would say that’s a kind of a different dimension. When I see a White man with a black woman, I think that maybe they’re like homosexual or they’re on the spectrum of homosexuality to a certain extent.

 

This is why I think as well, black men, like all niggers are gay. Like when blacks go to jail, they start butt raping each other. And like if you look at the data from America the gayest race per capita is blacks, according to the data.

 

So I think this is because black men obviously are attracted to black women, like, unlike anyone else seemingly, except for like a small group of freaks! And because they’re like biologically attuned to being attracted to black women, they kind of have to be almost bisexual because black women are so masculine. So their kind of sensitivity to the sexual sensitivity or whatever to homosexuality has to be reduced. So, yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: Where do Red Indians fit? Are Red Indians equivalent of Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Well, it’s I don’t really know too many, like pure red Indians, like, usually like people that are native to the Americas are like mixed with White at this point to varying degrees. So.

 

Jacob Hersant: So like is Hispanic and like Arabic, because Arabic, a lot of Levantine people also have White DNA. Do you think like, the Hispanic and the Levantine are like a tier above the Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean the Whiter ones. The Whiter ones, I would say so.

 

But then some of them are like, they have more of the putrid non-White DNA mixed into the point that it makes it like, really gross!

 

Obviously there’s Asian tiers as well. I think the Japanese are more attractive than, like, jungle Asians from, like, Vietnam or whatever, objectively.

 

So I think there’s tiers. Like, all race mixing is wrong, but, like, when you think about it, like, from the perspective of the inner world of the person who is sexually giving themselves over to that experience, like, it has to be a scale of degradation. Like I think that.

 

Jacob Hersant: Such a funny topic.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think. So yeah, I think it’s a funny topic. Send in some Superchats on that subject if you want some elaboration.

 

Jacob Hersant: Some people are going to be like, [chuckling] is it all right that I’m doing this? [chuckling] Oh, no! Like, don’t send in that Superchat. We’re just gonna tell you. No. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course it’s not all right if you have to ask if it’s all right and it’s not. But yeah I don’t know. Like, to me, it’s not like:

 

“Oh, man, I’m stuck having sex with White women. I really deeply I want to have a Japanese waifu, but because I’m loyal to Adolf Hitler, I’m stuck on the White implantation!”

 

I think White women are objectively, like, far more attractive, I think, in every way. Like, personally, like, obviously at their peak. If you said:

 

“This is the hottest Japanese girl in all of Japan and here’s like, the ugliest, fattest, most disgusting White girl.”

 

Obviously, like, … But luckily, I don’t have to make that choice. I can just be with a hot White chick. And that’s what you should all aspire to.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it seems to be when people say they have a preference for another race, the only one that you really hear about is yellow fever, like, having a preference for Asian women rather than White women. And you’ll hear this from, like, race traitors saying:

 

“I get what you’re saying about nationalism and all that, but I got yellow fever, mate!”

 

You [chuckling] never hear anyone saying they’re an oil driller or they’re obsessed with Levantine women or anything like that it’s only yellow.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In Australia, I think a lot of Americans are into the Latinas.

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, yeah.

 

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Joel Davis: But we just don’t have too many of them in Australia, so it’s kind of like, not as much of a thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: They’re a similar race, though. Like the Red Indians. They’re almost like hapas [half and half], the Latinos are like hapas between Asians and Whites.

 

Joel Davis: It’s a scale that like some Latinos are like they’re like 3/4 plus White and then some of them are like brown as fuck k. And so there’s a spectrum. Like obviously like Nick Fuentes and like the average Mexican don’t look the same. Right? So there’s a massive spectrum in like how much mixed breeding with Whites occurred.

 

Obviously the Whiter it is, the more I can see why you’d be attracted to it because it comes closer to like White features that I find attractive. But that itself is a refutation in my opinion. But yeah, I think most of the time it’s a discount. Like they will say, people that have like Asian wives that try to justify it to me, they say:

 

“Oh, your White wife or girlfriend doesn’t respect you like my Asian wife, she’s cooking me fried rice and cleaning and she doesn’t like talk back and all this kind of shit!”

 

And it’s like obviously you don’t know how you can’t handle a White woman. You don’t know how to like make a White woman submit. So now like you just, you need a discount basically.

 

So it’s just like in a certain sense the trash taking itself out. I get less offended when I see a nerdy dysgenic White guy with an Asian misus because, I don’t support it. It’s still a problem. But I think:

 

“Well those genes, didn’t fail [pass] the test. So now I guess we don’t really need him on the race.”

 

Like if you’re a disgusting low IQ freak, do we need you reproducing with a White woman? Do we need you on the race anymore? Less. So but if it’s like a high stock looking, you know, solid White dude, it’s like, surely you could get a White girlfriend. Like what are you doing?

 

Jacob Hersant: I get crazy because they’re reducing a relationship to just having a domestic slave, more or less. It’s not about building a future, having children with this person, like the healthiest children you can have. The children that are going to be the most successful in the world. It’s just about having a domestic slave, which is crazy to me! But it just shows you the priorities that these race traitors have.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean just like watch your Sterling Cooper videos, Get skills and get a White domestic slave if that’s your thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: But I like how we started talking about, by talking about the party and big ambitions and now it’s, we’re talking about the gradations of race mixing! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: It’s a quality, it’s quality content. Like I’ve not like, I think the viewers enjoy it. It’s like fun but also it is actually serious.

 

So in your day to day life. Like you encountered this often and you have to have these conversations. Like I have conversations often with people who will say I’ve got the yellow fever or their race mixes. And I try to say something because I think:

 

“Well, it’s better I say something now while they’re just dating or they’re just fooling around with non-White women than no one’s saying anything and then all of a sudden they get married and have three hapa kids and now like it’s over. And now that that guy and his blood is lost from our nation forever!”

 

Like so it’s always good to say something. It’s always good to encourage others to say something because it’s dignity. It’s like as if you’re going to want your own flesh and blood not to be of your own people. Then what’s the point? Like what’s the point of putting in effort as a father? What’s the point of like are you gonna go to your grave like that? Like your bloodline is doomed? Like what are you, what are you doing?

 

Like, it’s such a baseline issue and it’s gonna, the amount of race mixing that is occurring, it’s going to become increasingly a bigger and bigger issue. We’re going to have all these resentful hapas, you know, ascending through institutions into positions of power and prominence over the next generation. A lot of them are going to be motivated by an anti-White animus. A lot of them are going to be motivated by their resentful mutant status. And it’s going to be a massive problem. So you know, it needs to be discussed, needs to be called out. Miscegenation was illegal too. Mixed race marriages were illegal in Australia in the past. They should be illegal.

 

If you want to marry an Asian, move to whatever her country of origin is and go and join her tribe over there. You know, that’s really what you want. But yeah. Should we get into the Superchats? What do you think?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, let’s do it!

 

[1:22:40]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. All right. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Lucky I work in real Estate!”

 

I guess, talking about how house prices are up, blah, blah, blah. Macula Torren said:

 

“Would you have Lucas Gage on the show again? He was stabbed in the back by the Brown Alliance. He’s writing his book Our Struggle, where he introduces neo-feudalism to solve America’s race issue.”

 

I’ve spoken to Lucas multiple times. We’ve done Twitter Spaces, we’ve done a few streams after January 26 for Australia Day. We had a big rally action. A lot happened. And he interviewed me afterwards. And again, Lucas is my friend. Sometimes we don’t see fully eye to eye on a lot of issues. But I do think that he does want to what is best for our race, for our people.

 

And even though I don’t agree with him on all takes because I think he tries too hard to win over the base non-Whites and develop some kind of one struggle philosophy, I do think that he’s earnest. I do think he’s just trying to do what he thinks will work to advance our people. I don’t think his motivations are like wrong.

 

So why wouldn’t I be friendly with someone like that? It’s okay to not agree 100% on all issues with people in our movement if their heart’s in the right place. They’re trying to advance movement, they’re trying to advance our people and they conduct themselves in a friendly manner. Like, why wouldn’t you still be friendly?

 

So if you wanted to do a stream, whether it would be discussing ideas we agree or disagree upon, I would always be down to do it.

 

But yeah, in terms of like, are you. This is gonna be something for you to sign up on Jacob, this whole allying with non-Whites thing. It was discussed after the March for Australia because there was some, mostly Americans. There’s like a wing of the American far-Right, the American nationals nationalist movement, where they’re so fixated upon anti-semitism, they’re so fixated upon anti-zionism that it’s almost like they put being pro-Palestine above being pro-White. Obviously we’re anti-Israel, obviously we’re anti-semitic, we’re anti-jew! But like, if I could deport every single jew to Israel tomorrow, I would do it without even thinking, of course I would do that. It feels like for some of these people, they wouldn’t even do that because it would be, it would facilitate the genocide of the Palestinians or something.

 

And it’s like, what? Like I’m not in politics because I give a shit about Palestinians. In politics because I give a shit about our race. You know, I don’t have anything particularly against the Palestinians either. I’m neutral on Palestine, but I’m anti-Israel because of what Israel is doing to our people.

 

And it’s like they can’t compute this. They think because Tom mentioned the anti-Israel, the pro-Palestine, anti-March for Australia protesters in his speech because we got into fights against people with Palestinian flags, that it means we’re allying with Israel. And like this, you’re either with Palestine or you’re with Israel and there’s no other position you could have. And I find this to be a ridiculous position. Do you want to weigh in on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. Well, if they’re so worried about us calling out Palestine, then these Palestinians need to police themselves and not attack our activists when we’re trying to do a March for Australia. If you’re going to position yourself against the Australian nationalist march, then obviously we’re going to oppose you in that’s a core principle. That’s what we’re fighting for.

 

So if they come out against us, we’re going to meet them. That’s the reality. Like, we’re going to oppose them in their opposing of us.

 

So it’s a bit ridiculous! What’s the alternative? Are we supposed to, anytime someone’s carrying a Palestine flag, are we allowed to just be beaten by them? And we can’t fight back because that would be playing into the hands of the jews? Obviously, if anyone’s playing into the hands of the jews, it’s these activists.

 

And I’m not saying all Palestinians are doing it. Obviously not all Palestinians are doing it, but these people that are having the Palestine flag and then coming out against Australian nationalism are the ones that are playing into the hands of the jews, not us, because they’re the ones that are instigating this conflict. Because otherwise, if it was not opposed to us and it was just against Israel and for Palestine, then we would support it because we don’t like Israel and we see Israel as being a bigger threat to Australian nationalism than Palestinian nationalism and Palestinian sovereignty. We have no problem with Palestine at all! In fact, we wish them well because they are fighting against a common enemy.

 

And in terms of, well, all we can do really is express solidarity with the Palestinians in their country. There’s not really that much more that we can do. We don’t have massive resources that we can just donate to Palestine. All of the money is going to the struggle for our nation. Just as the Palestinians are going to spend all their money on the liberation of their country. We’re focused on the liberation of our race and our country rather than foreigners. We’re focused on our race. Like we’re nationalists.

 

But a lot of these people that call themselves nationalists that are focused on Palestine particularly have become de-centered. They’ve lost what defines them largely which is nationalism. So they’re focused on foreigners instead of their own position and what is actually their own interest and what they should be fighting for.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And I think when it comes to the pro-Palestine movement, a lot of people in the movement are not Palestinian. They’re just like assorted Muslims of various types. There’s like Islamic solidarity. And these Muslim peoples are not our friends. They are one of the most hostile groups of immigrants to Australians. They weren’t just responsible for rape gangs in Britain was a way large scale, but that kind of shit happened here as well. That was one of the main fuels for the Cronulla riots* and so on and so this idea that we can ally with Muslims is ridiculous! Either Muslims live in their own countries on the other side of the world where they’re of no use to us, or they live in our countries in which case they’re hostile invaders and we want them to get the fuck out of our country.

 

[* The 2005 “Cronulla Riots” were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebanese) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

[1:29:51]

 

So it’s like there’s no Muslim alliance that’s viable. They either have nothing to offer us or they’re just diametrically opposed to our interests.

 

And then the other major faction of the pro-Palestinian movement is communists who also hate us for all the obvious reasons. And so we’re not going to go and support the pro-Palestine movement. We stay away from it. We avoid it. I think Melbourne has had more pro-Palestine rallies in it than any other city in the world or something since October 7th, it has like the world record for pro-Palestine rallies. We have not interrupted a single one. It was only them that interrupted us. So we obviously stay away from them and let them do their thing because we’re not going to be foot soldiers for the jews. But yeah, this is, I think it’s a particularly like American online movement affliction.

 

And then a lot of people who amplify it are actually brown. They go into nationalist communities online but they have an anonymous avatar. No one can see their face. And then they pretend like they’re on our side just because they. But they’re just advancing their own interests. They then go and tell White nationalists they should stop being so hateful towards, towards other races and they should be focused on supporting Palestine and things like that it’s subversive! All of these people are falling for literal subversion.

 

There’s also an issue where a lot of the pro-Palestine rhetoric is anti-settler colonial. Like I’ve heard these people, the same arguments they use against Israel could be used against America or Australia like and us. So we oppose Israel not because it is conducting a genocide or whatever. We oppose Israel as White nationalists because Israel is the enemy of the White race! Because jews are the enemy of the White race and they are a parasitic influence on our countries. And if these people, this is the final kicker. I think. If you said there’s nothing that we can do for them. Well, there is one thing that we can do for them. We can take control of the Right-wing of Zionists, put in actual nationalists who are anti-jew in charge of the Right us instead of Zionists which currently control the institutional Right-wing.

 

How are we going to do that? Are we going to do that by waving Palestine flags? No, because if you look at the polling in Australia for example, Islam is by far the most hated religion in Australia. The Islamic migrant community is pretty much one of, if not the most hated groups in the country by the general population, particularly by Right-wing Australians. Patriotic Australians hate Muslims, period. There was polling done on this some time ago showed that the majority of Australians want a total ban on Islamic immigration. And then particularly with Right-wing voters, like a super majority of Right-wing voters supported that policy.

 

So we have to be strong on that issue. Otherwise if you have Zionists come forward on the Right like Zionist conservatives, like the Tommy Robinsons of this world and they are tough on Islam or they create the perception that they are and they’re the patriots against Islam and we are like soft on Islam. We’re waving Palestinian flags and talking about allying with Muslims. It’s just going to confuse a whole lot of patriotic Australians that we should be rallying behind us and our movement which is trying to take over the Right-wing from the Zionists.

 

So like if you’re pro-Palestine you should understand that even like from a tactical perspective it actually doesn’t make sense for us to directly support you because it would actually ruin our ability to take the Right-wing off the Zionists. And you guys already have control of the Left-wing. The Left-wing is already largely supporting you. So that’s the final move.

 

And then once that happens, then Israel is cut off from Western support because Left and Right together will oppose Israel for different reasons and then Israel’s fucked!

 

So that’s actually in your tactical interest, but also it’s in our tactical interest to deport jews to Israel and it’s in our interest to deport Muslims back to the Middle East. We want all of you gone! From your tactical point of view, you should stay out of our way and we’ll stay out of your way. But also we have fundamentally different interests. So the alliance is not viable.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, in that regard it is a zero sum game where we want to deport all the jews to Israel and the Palestinians want to deport all the jews to our countries! And we don’t want the jews. So you guys, the Middle East is going to have to take the jews or we’re going to have to, … Maybe we can come up with a compromise where we send them all to Madagascar? I’ve heard of that plan. And maybe we’ll have to move some of the black, … I think actually the Madagascans are like a different ethnic group from regular Africans, like on the continent.

 

So maybe we can’t send them there, I don’t know.

 

Joel Davis: Madagascar as a metaphor for another place.

 

Jacob Hersant: You think it’s a metaphor for a different place? Yeah, I’m not going to talk about that because I’m a sensible wholesome chungus nationalist. I couldn’t even, I can’t believe you would suggest such a thing.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no, of course not!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna be, I’m gonna be concerned, trolling you for like 30 minutes now. Be like, how could you say such a thing?

 

[1:35:13]

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I think, I mean realistically, if you tell people to get the out of your country, you don’t actually you kind of can’t force them to go to a particular country because they could just leave that country and go somewhere else else. Right? So like you just better tell them to get the fuck out and then it’s on them to figure out where they’re going.

 

So if you tell jews get the fuck out of Australia and you know, Europeans are telling jews to get out of Europe and Americans are telling jews to get out of America and so on. Obviously they’re just going to go to Israel, like that’s the main place for them to go next.

 

So it is what it is. I don’t give a fuck where they go as long as they get out of our countries, like then the problem is solved. The main problem in the past has been that all western or all White countries didn’t deport jews all at once. It was like this city in Europe says get out jews, let’s move to another city and set up operations there and keep fucking with us. And they just kind of like jumped around different parts of Europe. We have the main I guess issue is you know, and if we just, if we take over Australia and you know, other Western countries still ZOGged out, I guess a lot of jews are going to end up going there because a problem.

 

But ideally they get out of Western countries period. And that’s one thing that I think we could try to control is that when they leave they go to a non-Western country. But we can’t really stop them once they’re gone from where they go from there. Like realistically. Like we will tell when we are trying to do remigrate a lot of these non-Whites, like we’re not going to allow them to remigrate to White countries. We’re going to force them to remigrate to non-White countries. Like we could send them back to India but then America could let them back in. Like we can’t stop it! So there’s only like a certain amount of control we have over that.

 

But at the end of the day we’re anti-jew because we’re pro-White. We’re not anti-jew just for the sake of it. And you know we call out the jews and we criticise the jews openly obviously, but it’s not the be all and end all like we have to have a comprehensive position.

 

But we’ll go through some of these more of these Superchats. Unpopular opinionator said:

 

“Australia needs a nationalist church. Get Professor Andrew Fraser and James Donald to oversee the doctrine. Former group to revise the BCP. Find a renegade Bishop who’s down and you’ll have something.”

 

Well look, sounds great but it’s not the job for me. I don’t think Jacob’s that interested in either. But if you guys want to do that, knock yourself out. Like I would much rather there be racist churches than anti-racist churches. Jacob, do you agree with that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. I agree with that.

 

Joel Davis: [word unclear] said:

 

“Hi guys. How do we address the Christian question? I see many potential White nationalists cucked into Christian nationals.”

 

What a double those two Superchats together. I mean in the National Socialist Network, in White Australia, we’re not anti-Christian. If you’re a Christian, you can join the Organisation as long as you accept the fact that it’s secular, meaning that not everyone in the organisation is of a particular religious faith. As a White Australian, you are free to explore your religious views as you see fit. We don’t allow Muslims, we don’t allow Satanists, we don’t allow Judaism obviously, but we have a few prohibitions.

 

But basically like if you want to go and fucking explore Buddhism or whatever, knock yourself out. You want to be a pagan, you want to be a Christian, you don’t really have a religious view, that’s fine! The function of the organisation is to defend our race. If you agree on its principles, then you can participate. So that’s our position.

 

Obviously the problem with Christian nationalism is this idea that you can define a nation by religion rather than by what a nation is, which is its people. Obviously we disagree with that. I don’t if the country becomes 99% non-White but everyone a Christian, it’s not Australia anymore. It’s some like racial slop that I want no part in.

 

So if you think that, like there’s no reason why as a Christian you have to accept that. The analogy I would use is that like say you’re a Christian and the other people in your family aren’t Christians, does that mean that you abandon your family and you just only associate with Christians that you aren’t related to? And pretend like they’re your family now? That would be ridiculous! Like your family is your family regardless of their religion is.

 

The same thing is true with the nation. Our nation is our nation, our people is our people, regardless of what their religious views are. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“He can see his reflection in my shiny nose.”

 

Do you have anything to say on the Christian question, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well I wouldn’t come out and attack Christianity. We come out and attack people that are against ethno-nationalists. So if there are Christians that are against ethno-nationalism that then we’re attacking Christians in that way. But people that are ethno-nationalist Christians, we have no point problem with that it’s going to be a disparate group of people that call themselves Christian nationalists. And we support the Christian nationalists that are ethno-nationalists and we oppose the ones that are universalists who think that nationality can be defined by a religion. But we say that nationality is primarily defined by blood. So when we propagandize, we criticise on that basis rather than criticising people for being Christians because we have no problem with Christians who are racists.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, like Obviously we all have personal views on the subject and in the organisation those views vary. Everyone in the organisation there’s people with different religious views in the organisation.

 

So we don’t have like one official position on religion in the organisation because we allow members to have religious freedom. They become like some stateless lunatic or like a fucking Muslim or something, we draw the line there, but we’re pretty tolerant.

 

[word unclear] said:

 

“Fellow Comrade is a half caste mutt!”

 

Well, interesting. Aussie orders88 said:

 

“How much? , …”

 

I’m not going to read this. I’m not going to give him the satisfaction of this clip. Fellow Comrades said:

 

“How do we stop gay Superchats from everyone except me?”

 

I support gay Superchats because I can just not read them out but I still get your money. So aussie orders 88 said:

 

“Indians saying they are more Australian than us Anglos as they have abo blood is fucking solid. So hilarious! I like that admission by the jeet.”

 

Did you see that Jacob? There was this Indian woman who said:

 

“They have more of a right to be here than we do because they’re related to the Aboriginals as Dravidians and we aren’t.”