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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody and welcome to tonight’s stream. We’re live on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. And I’ve got a wonderful panel for you here tonight to discuss the big issue of, well, the last week or so, and it’s obviously Trump’s war for Israel or Trump’s war on Iran for Israel, to be more precise.

 

Now, the guys I’ve got with me I’ll be introducing shortly. It’s of course Natty and Yuro from the Nationalist A-Team. We’re going to cover some of the things we covered last Sunday quickly. And then we’re going to go deeper into things. Everyone’s going to get roughly an equal time to talk. I’m not going to be putting people on an egg timer, but we’ve probably got nine or ten topics and if everyone puts sort of three, four minutes into each topic, it’ll be about a 90 minute presentation. So stick around. It’s going to be pretty entertaining or at least pretty enlightening.

 

You might have noticed I’m not on camera tonight. My apologies for that it’s not because I’m being rude. Slightly under the weather today, actually. I don’t know whether I sound it and if I do, my apologies. But I am doing my best to essentially be as chirpy as humanly possible, all things considered.

 

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So we will talk about that. So if you’ve got a different point of view, if you’ve got something you want to raise, if you think we’ve missed something, or if you just say:

 

“Look, Mark, I really appreciate the fact that you’ve been consistent for the last, 26 years and I want to keep you fighting even though you’re banned from everywhere.”

 

I appreciate that as well.

 

So thank you in advance for everyone who Superchats. You can also donate by crypto all the crypto links in the description below.

 

And finally you can write to me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. Although I didn’t answer emails this morning, again under the weather. So sorry guys, back to things on Monday. Unless I’ve got some kind of horrible illness that drags on past then and sort of takes me out, which I’m sure I haven’t. That’s quite a morbid thought. Anyway! We are going to get into it now, but before we do that, let’s go around the group and we’ll introduce everyone.

 

Now, the first is of course Natty. You know him from the Nationalist A-Team and also from numerous other streams that he’s done with me in the past. Natty’s a guy that’s been around since the beginning of PA. He’s been to all the meetings, at conferences, camps, etc, and he’s always someone that everyone likes hearing from.

 

In fact, I always say that if I had a wingman on PWR, it would be this guy here. Natty, how are you doing, my friend? I hope you are well.

 

Natty: Yeah, I’m good. I’m enjoying watching Tel Aviv burn. I’m sure we’re gonna talk about the ins and outs of what that means, but yeah, I’m good apart from that it’s been a bit of a crazy week trying to keep up with everything and I think my wife has suffered constantly looking across at me and seeing my face buried in my phone because I’m trying to, I’m monitoring the situation. But yeah, it’s very interesting times.

 

Mark Collett: Do you ever get it where you’re out on the sort of a supposed family event and the wife’s like:

 

“Why aren’t you paying any attention? All you’re doing is sitting on the phone. What can be so important that you need to be on your phone at this family event?”

 

And you’re like:

 

“Look, you know, Israel is on fire. Tel Aviv is being hit with hypersonic missiles. Chill out!”

 

Natty: It’s like:

 

“Honey, there’s cluster munitions going off above a suburb in Tel Aviv. This is really important. [chuckling] I’m watching it right now! It’s amazing!”

 

Mark Collett: Well, yeah, [chuckling] that’s kind of that’s kind of the str. I’d say that that’s the struggle that we have.!

 

Anyway, we’ve also got Yuro with us tonight. He’s obviously famous because Yuro used to do The Absolute State of Britain podcast.

 

And again, he’s a very able wing man. He has been on the National A-Team standing in for Sam. He always has good takes, he’s a funny guy and sometimes I bully him a bit, which is a little unfair, but that’s because I love him and see him as like my little brother, My little brother who needs the odd sort of monkey scrub and jab in the ribs, but he’s like my little brother, so I still love him.

 

Anyway, Yuro, how are you doing, my friend?

 

Yuro: I’m good. I’ve also been keenly paying attention watching Middle East Spectator and other such channels on Telegram. You know, it’s, I think there’s a lot more censorship obviously during the 12 Day War that was going on between Iran and Israel before. It was very much like:

 

“Well, what can we believe? How much are they not showing you?”

 

And it’s just that more. So we see all of Iran’s failures and then some things that’s like disinfo and we see all of Israel’s successes and then some, and some of that’s disinfo. And it’s kind of hard to even know what’s real.

 

[04:47]

 

Natty: That’s a good point actually because just briefly, it does seem like the information blackout from Israel was way more intense during the 12 Day War. And it seems like now because of the scope and the breadth of everything, just more is getting through or you’re able to find out more. And I’m sure this isn’t true, if you check the BBC or just some other like ZOG regime outlet, you’re not going to be seeing anything hitting Israel. But that’s what everyone’s interested in. That’s what everyone wants to see. [chuckling] You know, how many hypersonics hit Tel Aviv? This time, you know what US asset has just been blown up by a drone in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or wherever it is. That’s what people are interested in seeing. They want to see the underdog smacking the bully in the mouth. And that’s what happens when a cheap Shahed drone gets through a multi-million dollar interceptor screen and like blows up a THAAD [Terminal High Altitude Area Defense] radar system or something. That’s what everyone’s into, right? Everyone wants to see that. No one wants to see like Iranian suburbs being like caught on fire and hit with JDAMs and hit with Tomahawk missiles because that’s just brutal civilian casualties, which is what ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] is good at.

 

Yuro: Well, the funny thing is to see America in this war using the copy of the Iranian kamikaze drones. They’ve got their own basically one to one copy of the Shahed drone that they’ve now rolled out and they’re starting to fire back at the Iranians. Because it was just like the near perfect design that they’re like:

 

“We can’t make any better than this. We’re just going to copy it.”

 

Natty: Yeah. You know, for the grand and mighty American empire is reverse engineering Third World brownoid country drones [chuckling] that sound like lawnmowers when they’re flying through the sky!

 

But yeah, that’s what America’s up to these days. I mean, you can’t really claim it’s the European heritage stock that’s like the most genius country in the world. It’s just not that anymore, I’m afraid, guys.

 

Mark Collett: Well, I agree. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. So and we do actually have just. We do have a little sort of running order as well, tonight. I’m not going to read it out, but I was going to post it actually and say:

 

“Look, these are all the things we’ll be discussing.”

 

But there’s a lot to discuss and we’re going to go through things from the start. Now we’re going to speed run some of the bits we talked about on the Nationalist A-Team because for anyone who watched the Nationalist A-Team and enjoys it, look, it is a banger of a stream, except for when I get killed by somebody and get upset.

 

But other than that! It is a good stream. And if you want to watch it, there’s some takes there. And also there’s the Patriarch there as well who provides quite a lot of good comedy.

 

Anyway, so we’re going to start with the wider justification for this because there’s nowhere better to start than the official justification. Now, I’ve seen these videos where Netanyahu, they’re sort of like compilation videos of every time Netanyahu is claimed that Iran is sort of five months, five weeks, you know, two years from getting the atomic bomb. And he’s been doing this, believe it or not, for over 30 years!

 

So the first example I’ve seen of Netanyahu saying that Iran is just moments away from like nuclear weapon capability was actually all the way back in 1995. And the reason that’s interesting, …

 

Yuro: There are people dying in this war on the American side who have not been alive longer than Iran was supposedly two weeks away from a nuclear weapon!

 

Mark Collett: That’s a very good point. That is Yuro. But you get minus points for butting in. You’ve been told about that.

 

Natty: Oh, no [word unclear] battalion!

 

Mark Collett: Wiffle bat to give you a spanking. Right. So these fake nuclear claims that are interesting for two reasons.

 

Firstly, because they are blatantly fake! It’s been, to my knowledge, 31 years. And Yuro does make, … Look to Yuro’s credit, he makes a very good point. You know, the idea that this has been going on longer than some of the people on these American battleships have been alive is incredible!

 

But one thing that struck me immediately with this was I remember living through the time of the Iraq war. And at the time of the Iraq war, Weapons of Mass Destruction became one of the most maligned phrases to have ever been used in British Parliament, to the point that where if you now say “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, it’s sort of synonymous with war crimes, lies and a regime that took us into what was essentially an illegal war. You know, there was no Weapons of Mass Destruction.

 

But one thing that shocks me is this is the kind of thing where people just seem to have either forgotten this or put it to one side.

 

So the Daily Mail is a classic example of this. The Daily Mail is sort of the populist Right-wing, you know, vote Reform, consider voting Conservative newspaper. And they were all against Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction and exposing his lies and speaking out about it once it was exposed via the Chilcot inquiry.

 

But now the Daily Mail, like:

 

“We need this war. You know, usually we’re against war, but in this instance, this needs to happen!”

 

And you’ve got all these shill commenters in the sections underneath the Daily Mail articles in the comment sections, and they’re all saying things like:

 

“Oh, I’m against the war, but this is an exception.”

 

And I don’t know whether these are real people, idiot Boomer types or that’s not all Boomers. But you know, the sort. I mean the kind of person that says:

 

“Oh, well, I’m against the people on the small boats, but I would let the genuine refugees in all. Yes! And if somebody comes here and learns to speak English, well, he’s as British as Yorkshire pudding, isn’t he!”

 

Those sort. Is it one of them or is it a shill account?

 

[11:04]

 

But I think it’s really interesting that exactly the same justification for the attack is being used, as was used in Iraq. But the Iraq, War retrospectively is possibly the most maligned conflict and the conflict seen as the most unjust conflict. Probably post World War II. I’d have said that would have gone to Vietnam at one point, but Iraq seems to have, maybe because it’s more recent, seems to have eclipsed that.

 

So what do you guys think?

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously this is what they’re saying and we’re going to discuss next the real reason and what we think the real reason is. But what do you think to this sort of fake reasoning for going to war?

 

Natty: Well, just listening to you there, I haven’t done this because I was just reminded by what you said. But I’m fairly certain if you went back to the 2000s and had a look at the lead up to the Iraq war, you, amongst the Daily Mail articles, you wouldn’t find opposition to the actual war itself, because none of these publications were really opposed to it in any meaningful way and certainly weren’t like trying to rally people against the war. So you know, post Iraq war when everyone was kind of saying what disaster it was, I’m sure the Daily Mail were jumping on board that.

 

But as even now publications that you would think would be against the war in Iran are kind of talking around the edge of it whilst not decrying the war and certainly not being like anti-war, like proper anti-war publications and laying out all the connections between the Epstein regime and the people connecting in it like Mandelson and like Boris Johnson and Tony Blair and all the rest of it.

 

But yeah, it’s striking. I mean, one of the things I put in the chat earlier was that before this happened. Well, okay, let’s let me take it back a little bit. Before Iraq, the reason why the term “Weapons of Mass Destruction” became such a big thing is because the media and the government, Blair’s regime spent so much time and energy trying to get public approval for it, because they felt like, they obviously felt like they needed it. They needed a justification. They needed something to sell to the British people as to why it was a good idea, why it was necessary to go into Iraq.

 

Now that just hasn’t happened this time. Because I think they understand that the forces controlling the “Epstein Empire” as people are calling it, which is fairly apt, simply are not in the shadows anymore. You know, this stuff has been laid out. Israel is pulling the strings and it’s pulling the strings of America and it’s America’s pulling the strings of Europe because essentially Europe is just a colony of the United States. So they don’t feel they need to justify it so much.

 

Now, obviously there’s like regime mouthpieces and stoolies like Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray, the Daily Mail and all the rest of it, who are now going out there and running cover and trying to make this war popular or make it so that it seems like:

 

“Well, it’s not a job any of us want to do, but it’s necessary and we need to do this for stability and peace!”

 

But I just don’t think the public are buying it. And the public for the most part didn’t buy it with Iraq, but that doesn’t stop that happening. And they’re not buying it with Iran either.

 

But there hasn’t been a groundswell of opposition to it in the same way as Iraq because they haven’t spent so long trying to justify it. And for a lot of people this just came out the blue. Not for anyone who’s kind of a properly dissident to the kind of Epstein Empire. This didn’t come out of the blue. This was fairly predictable. But probably just for your average person sitting at home and getting on with life, this kind of immediate blow up in the Middle East, where oil prices are about to skyrocket, petrol prices creeping up and we’re probably about to experience an energy crisis, just came out straight out of the blue! And the justifications, unlike Iraq, are all post hoc. They, it wasn’t a media build up to a war, it’s like a media cover plot after the war has started.

 

Yuro: What I find interesting as well is as you say, with the Iraq thing, there was a lot of build up and there was:

 

“Let’s get the UN involved, let’s condemn them, let’s build a coalition, let’s get Britain involved.”

 

But the other thing is they never said Iraq has a nuke. It was always this nebulous “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. And it’s kind of like the, well, we’re going to say that they have Weapons of Mass Destruction and that’s like we will say:

 

“Oh, actually they have chemical weapons which we’re going to classify as Weapons of Mass Destruction. And we’re going to hope that we can gin that up in people’s minds to be like, ‘Oh, they have a nuclear weapon’.”

 

And it was like:

 

“We won’t explicitly state they have a nuclear weapon. We’ll just try and make people think they have a nuclear weapon.”

 

And then there was the thing about:

 

“They can strike us in 45 minutes with their Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

But now they just come out and say:

 

“They’re building a nuke!”

 

It’s not Weapons of Mass Destruction. And as you say, that’s because the term is just completely lost all validity. You know, people at the moment, they hear that, they just know it’s Iraq, War 2. But they’re not even like trying to do that lesser thing.

 

It’s kind of like what they do with racism, where you’ve got like the small definition and the big definition. The Weapons of Mass Destruction is like what they do with racism.

 

So if you’re a “racist”, it’s like you just think that different people are different and you care about your own people. Well, that’s a racist. But the moment you get labelled a racist, it’s like you’re a “supremacist who wants to murder everyone who’s not you”. Well, the Weapons of Mass Destruction is chemical weapons could be a weapon of mass destruction, but the moment you get labelled with that, all of a sudden:

 

“You’ve got nukes, you’re dangerous!”

 

[17:31]

 

Natty: Yeah. And the 45 minute claim was like, they can hit the tip of Cyprus. If they drive a Scud launcher right to the edge of the Iraqi border and fire it, they might just be able to hit Cyprus! And that was translated into British headlines as “British territory”. Yeah:

 

“They can hit us in 45 minutes! Oh my God, the sky’s falling!”

 

And the reality was, it was Scud missiles and some Sarin gas artillery shells which have a range of about 10 or 15 kilometers, which they used in Halabja [1988 against Kurds] apparently. I mean, we saw, I, we got trained on that in the CBRA regiment of what happened in Halabja with the Sarin gas shells. But that was passed into, like you said, Weapons of Mass Destruction. Very nebulous. Well, not easy to disseminate term, but very little detail and very little meaning. And you could say to people:

 

“Well, they’ve got Scud launches on trucks which can fly however many kilometers it is, and they’ve got some Sarin gas shells.”

 

But these, in terms of where the United Kingdom is and the rest of Europe, these are absolutely meaningless! And again, it was just to justify the Greater Israel Project and take out one of Israel’s enemies and destroy one of Israel’s enemies.

 

Yuro: Well, I was having to think about this before we started this stream. And I said to myself, you know:

 

“There is one state, there is a rogue state in the Middle East that has Weapons of Mass Destruction.”

 

And by that I mean a boatload of actual nuclear weapons. And they have the capability of targeting Britain, …

 

Natty: And if rumours are to be believed, then the Samson Option is a real thing and Israel is the lunatic state that has no compunction about using these things. Now, I don’t know if that’s a real thing or whether that’s just something that gets disseminated to scare everyone.

 

But you’ve got to remember the only people who have used nukes as an actual weapon of war against living targets is the Epstein Regime in the Second World War. And I don’t separate the people who are running America now from those people. I mean, it’s the same group of people.

 

Yuro: If you look at the way that they behave on the world stage, the way that they behave against the Palestinians, the way that they behave against the Iranians, it wouldn’t be out of character for them to just lash out at everyone else for “not defending them hard enough”. But according to the publicly available information, they have intercontinental ballistic missiles with a range of 11 and a half thousand kilometers, which basically means they can hit everywhere on the planet with the exception of kind of east Australia, New Zealand and some bits of South America.

 

Natty: So those parts of South America where all the Nazis fled to, so unfortunately they [chuckling] can’t touch them!

 

Yuro: The parts where Javier Milei, who’s converted to Judaism, is currently in charge.

 

Natty: Oh no!

 

Yuro: And they might also not be able to quite hit Mexico where (((Claudia Sheinbaum))) is in charge.

 

Mark Collett: Oh, dear! Well, talking about the control that jews wield, let’s talk about what we think is the real reason for this.

 

Now, I’m going to go straight out and say it. I believe the real reason for this is the Greater Israel Project. I think the Greater Israel Project is something that has gathered pace in the last few years, especially under Trump. We’ve seen the attacks on Gaza, we’ve seen the attacks on Lebanon. We’ve seen the fall of the Syrian regime, which was obviously heavily influenced by Israel, who were helping Islamic terrorists in the region. You know, the head chopper ones that we’re told are the great threat to peace and justice and decency, yet Israel is actually supporting those people!

 

And we’ve also seen Israel be involved in the fall of other regimes. Israel were famously involved. And this came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. I actually did a video on this. Israel were very famously involved with meeting, … And Tony Blair admitted this under oath in the Chilcot Inquiry. He met influential jewish leaders from the then current Israeli regime. And he said:

 

“The meetings had nothing to do with military intelligence. They had everything to do with overall strategy and long term goals.”

 

So take that as you will. But I’m taking that as they were heavily involved in getting rid of Saddam Hussein.

 

[22:24]

 

And I think it’s obviously within Israel’s interest to topple almost every sovereign regime in the region. And they do this quite openly. They are doing it more openly now. They’re getting away with it, sadly. And this is a blatant example of that. Although they’ve loosely talked about the nuke thing, like we said, Natty did make an important point that they felt it’s less necessary to sell this like they sold the Iraq, War. And in some interviews, members of the American regime have simply said:

 

“Yeah, we just want to kill these people. We want to kill them, we want to take them out. This is about regime change. This is about Israel.”

 

And I believe it was Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said:

 

“It was Israel who forced our hand. They began this and we are there to defend them and assist them. So when they began the attacks, we were forced into going along with it.”

 

Now, Trump then furiously denied this, but it’s a very interesting admission from Marco Rubio.

 

So I think this is all about the Greater Israel Project. And I believe that has been the driving force or the driving ideology behind the destabilisation of the Middle East.

 

Natty: Yeah, totally! And it kind of behooves me to say this and to get people to realise that whereas we’re living kind of day to day and prices of things go up and you’re worried about your children. We’ve been totally separated from any idea of our history and our lineage and where we’ve come from and where we might be going.

 

So it’s kind of hard to understand for us the jewish mindset. And this is a plan that’s been in the making for a very long time, years, decades, where once Israel was created and they have a vision of the Greater Israel Project. There’s a whole, there’s a list of countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt. And through various machinations, they’ve all been, one by one, they’ve been taken out or pacified. Egypt is basically paid off by the United States and is under the sway of Israel, has a border with Israel, but it doesn’t do anything about their genociding of the Palestinians and the destabilising and eventual collapse of the Syrian state. What happened in Libya with Gaddafi ending up with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street, and the subsequent flooding of Europe with migrants, which is a kind of side issue we can get onto if you want. But all of this, …

 

Mark Collett: I’ve got that further down the line, mate, that comes at the end, if you look at the show notes, I’ve actually said:

 

“You know, what are the actual repercussions for this, both for the West and for the Middle East?”

 

And that’s one of the things we will talk about.

 

Natty: Yeah, for sure. And it’s clear now, I mean, in my opinion and the opinion of other people who have been following this, that the reason Trump was so heavily pushed into a second term was that the people who are running him and the jews in Israel believe that he was the best chance of getting this done. You know, this final push to topple Iran, which basically gets rid of the last bastion of resistance to Israel. And you’ve got to think:

 

“Well, why is Israel so hell bent on getting rid of people who resist them?”

 

You think, well, the people who are opposing them, the only real people who are opposing them, committing genocide in Gaza, Europe was on board with it. The United States was supplying them with bombs and had carrier groups in the Mediterranean. The United Kingdom, our own government, was flying surveillance flights over Gaza and letting Cyprus be used as a refueling and an air base for Israel. So Europe was aiding in the genocide in Gaza.

 

And it was only Hezbollah and you know, funded via Iran that was really attacking, and the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were attacking Israel and trying to hold them account for genociding the Gazan people. And that’s unacceptable for Israel to have that resistance in the region, even though the attacks on it are totally justified and being used as like, defense against people who are being hurt and destroyed in this like, brutal way by this lunatic, lunatic group of people who have been squatting on the edge of a Mediterranean.

 

So the justifications the real justification is the toppling of Iran as a coherent state. And I’ll touch on this before I pass this over to Yuro. But there’s talk of regime change. You know, that’s what they say:

 

“We’re trying to enact regime change here.”

 

But that isn’t quite true. They’re not really interested in a regime swap where they swap one regime for another. What they’re interested in is total destabilisation! Just like with Syria, just like with Iraq, just like with Libya, where these are just failed states with tribal warlords with like Mossad and CIA run groups running around HTS, ISIS, all of these people. Which means no coherent defense, no missile bases, no civil defense, nothing! Just a load of groups that you can pay this group to fight this group and you know, you can pay these guys or stop paying these guys and just let chaos reign while Israel just expands and expands and expands and gets to do what it wants.

 

You know, kind of reminiscent, I’ll just finish on this. Kind of reminiscent to how if you import millions and millions of foreign people into a small island nation, it also becomes destabilised and coherent resistance or coherent defense or coherent politics kind of become very difficult and a very well motivated minority can rule the lot! So there’s your answer as to the real reasons for this war.

 

[28:45]

 

 

Yuro: A few things I wanted to pick up on there. Just as Mark was speaking, you kept using the term “regime”. And that’s like one of those MKUltra trigger words that they’ve put in people’s minds that like “regime is bad, regime is authoritarian, evil government”. It was all it was always the “Saddam regime” and the “Iran regime”. They’re just governments. They’re a different form of government. You know some of them are more or less Democratic than others, but it’s like this regime thing is a trigger word. And along that same lines, Natty, you mentioned the Houthis as “rebels”. I think the ones that we call Houthis are pretty much just the government of Yemen now. I mean, and they have pockets of what’s left of the people that they overthrew. But they’re basically just the government of Yemen. They’re not rebels anymore. They’re not a regime, they’re just that government.

 

But obviously this was all part of a plan. This is something that they’ve been going at for a very long time. They had the Project for a New American Century [PNAC] where they said we want to hit like seven countries in 10 years. And they’ve basically got all of them.

 

I mean, they wanted to get Iraq, they wanted to get Syria, they wanted to get Libya, and of course it’s neocon jews behind it all.

 

So that’s been happening for a very long time. There’s a reason why they caught a bunch of jewish Israelis dancing on 911*, already filming before the first plane went into those towers. They were dancing around, they were happy because they knew that was the excuse that they needed to start their own genocidal campaign. And it’s like dominoes falling. They get this one, then they get that one. And I mean, what happens to Libya? He, Gaddafi, gave up his weapons, chemical weapons and things like that.

 

[* 9/11: A false flag carried out by ZOG with Israel being the lead behind its planning and execution. The aim was to unleash the War OF Terror on the countries around Israel, among other aims. See See Also links below, especially the work by Christopher Bollyn.]

 

And as soon as they were gone, they were like:

 

“Right, well he’s defenseless, we can go in there and kill him now!”

 

So that’s what they proceeded to do.

 

And the other thing as well, like looking at what they’re doing to Iran, I mean, you talked about them wanting to destabilise them. As far as I understand, because they can’t really hit these military targets. They don’t know exactly where all the underground bases are and where they’re being launched from. So they’re targeting, I mean, apart from like primary schools for girls and things like that, which they do just because they’re evil and want to blow up kids when they’re not abusing kids in other ways, they’re just like targeting police stations and things like that. Just like blow up all the police stations in the country and hope it destabilises that way!

 

And of course they had this gayop a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they tried to incite some sort of terrorist uprising in Iran and that failed.

 

And obviously they wanted to coincide these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: But I was going to say that was obviously hilariously mistimed. [chuckling] Right? So they fermented this terrorist uprising and meanwhile they haven’t got all like the military assets in place to strike it. I mean, you might have a better idea of this than me, you guys, but maybe they thought in the January uprisings that they like funded all these terrorist groups to try and overthrow the government of Iran. Maybe they thought that it was still going to be going on now while they moved all these carrier groups and pulled their troops out of the Gulf oil state bases. Maybe they thought it was still going to be going on and that the Iran government was still going to be fighting these guys, but it was crushed within like a few days. Right!

 

Yuro: I have a feeling that maybe they were trying to like wait a little bit longer, but it was about to be compromised and they thought:

 

“If we don’t do it now, we miss the opportunity entirely.”

 

So they had to launch it. And they spent so long getting carriers into place to attack Iran because they’ve had these problems with the sewage system on the Gerald Ford, which obviously some people are saying that’s like a deliberate thing, that soldiers or sailors have clogged the tubes on purpose to destroy the system because they don’t want to go and die and be the next false flag. But they’ve had problems with that before. So it’s not entirely out of the realms of possibility that it is sort of coincidental to some degree.

 

But yeah, obviously that was something that delayed them. So I mean we can be glad about that because it’s meant that Iran’s not facing these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: I’m not sure. Look, I’m not a, like a military analyst or anything, but I’m not sure even if the like Epstein empire, the Epstein regime, had fermented this terrorist uprising whilst they carried out this first strike against Khomeini in a little girl’s school for some reason, whether if those two things occurred, coincided, even then, whether they’d have been able to pull off this kind of toppling of the regime. It seems like, …

 

Yuro: Regime?

 

Natty: Look, [chuckling] it’s the word everyone uses here! I can try, but I’m as susceptible to the MKUltra* terms as everyone else. Right? I’m just not sure it would have worked even if they had pulled it off at the same time.

 

[* MKUltra was a covert program run by the CIA from 1953 to 1973. Its primary goal was to explore methods of mind control and behavior modification through various means, including drugs and psychological techniques. MKUltra is widely condemned for its unethical practices, including: Lack of Consent: Many subjects were unaware they were part of experiments. Abusive Techniques: Included torture, isolation, and drugging without consent. The term MKUltra is a CIA cryptonym: “MK” is an arbitrary prefix standing for the Office of Technical Service and “Ultra” is an arbitrary word out of a dictionary used to name this project.]

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, we’re going to go on to that anyway, so let’s move a little bit further forward because there are other things we want to talk about.

 

Now, I think the next thing we need to talk about, we’ve placed this into context, talk about the Greater Israel Project. Now I think the next thing that’s very important is discussing the issue of these fake negotiations that America has had with the likes of Iran before all of this kicked off.

 

And they obviously had similar sort of fake negotiations with, I think it was Venezuela, didn’t they? And then they go in anyway. This is something that America started doing, you know, fake negotiations, but then we come and get you anyway.

 

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Yuro: I think they had a similar thing with the, like Hezbollah and Hamas, didn’t they?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, there’s multiple examples.

 

But what I’m getting at is a real, and we won’t labour this because we spoke about this extensively on the Nationalist A-Team the other night, but when we were talking about that, we did make the point that fundamentally at one point the idea of going in somewhere you know, negotiating, but then using negotiations as a reason or as an excuse to then hit another country. So the negotiations aren’t real negotiations. They’re cover that gets the other side to drop their guard. So, it’s like walking up somebody in a bar saying:

 

“Look, mate, let’s just settle this amicably. Let me buy you a drink. What do you want?”

 

And when the other guy turns to have a look at the list of craft beers, you sucker punch him! You know, that’s an underhanded thing to do. Everyone would be like:

 

“Wow, that’s pretty much scandalous! We don’t want to see that kind of behaviour. That’s the kind of behaviour that’s not becoming of an honourable man.”

 

And there used to be this narrative that the West was honourable, that we were the good guys. And I’ll say these fake negotiations are being used as a means to cover up an attack which is I’m imminent. I do think that is a really shady thing to do.

 

And I think that as time goes by, we are going to see more and more people be unwilling to negotiate with the West. Like, why would Vladimir Putin or China or any other nation, North Korea, negotiate with Trump? Why would any foreign leader trust going to America or sitting in a negotiation room with the Americans when they assassinate leaders, carry out fake negotiations, use the hand of friendship to lock their opponent’s hand in place before they sucker punch them? You know, it’s like holding one hand out to shake the other guy’s hand and when he starts giving the handshake, you just sucker punch them! You know, it’s awful! I mean, what do you guys think to this?

 

I think this is going to fundamentally change the way, the implication of this, is going to change the way that every other nation does business with America. And it’ll put America on a even people like the Europeans, who are essentially vassal states of America, are not going to be trusting of Trump again or America.

 

Yuro: Well, Europe is already not going to be trusting of Trump and America because of the whole thing with Greenland for a start. But I mean, I hope at the end of this, obviously Iran’s going to hold out. They’re going to continue to resist until America and Israel, …

 

Mark Collett: This is the summation, what you hope for comes at the end, like, stay on, …

 

Yuro: It’s related to this! It’s related to this. I was going to say I hope that Israel and America run out of interceptor missiles. Iran fights them to a standstill. And they say:

 

“Right, we will negotiate with Trump in this place.”

 

He goes there to negotiate, and then, …

 

Natty: They just blow him up! [chuckling]

 

Yuro: And it would be entirely justified on moral grounds and on the grounds that it’s already been done to them.

 

Natty: They would cry bitter tears if the same tactics they had used, these same underhand, cowardly, sniveling, weak tactics were used on them! And this is something to point out to. I say I’m gonna use Boomer, but, like, Boomer mindset, Civnat, kind of Tommy Robinson-tard mindset where like:

 

“Oh, yeah, no, we’re the good guys and we should stamp these dirty terrorists into the ground! They’re terrorists!”

 

It’s like your pedo jew empire assassinates little girls for some reason, I guess because they’ve just got bloodlust and we can talk about the Purim Fest, if we want. Assassinates little girls, assassinates world leaders, which is supposed to be off the table. Totally violates, like, any notion of the Geneva Convention or the kind of rules of war and does it in a cowardly way. This is like your medieval knight marching out to the front of a battle under a white flag to negotiate terms and then just pulling a knife and stabbing the negotiator. Your entire army would be, they’re like, forfeit. And the enemy army would be totally justified in just slaughtering prisoners and like, just pillaging and doing whatever it wants at that stage! You’ve set the rules. You’re supposed to be the powerful, the one who’s setting out exactly how things are going to go down. And you open the conflict or the latest round of the conflict with an underhand cowardly assassination under the flag of truce and blowing up 170 schoolgirls! Well, I’m sorry, but what space have you now given for quarters? None! And no one’s going to trust you, and they shouldn’t trust you.

 

And the other world powers looking on Russia and China, who we’re going to touch on in a little while, like Mark said, they’re not going to be trustworthy. They’re going to have that in their minds anytime America tries to talk to them, anytime the jew empire reaches out to say:

 

“Oh, we just want to discuss the Ukraine war and negotiate terms in the Ukraine war.”

 

And like, Yuro said, they would be totally justified in shooting down like diplomatic planes, like bombing, like delegations, peace delegations, assassinating the head of state. Who’s to tell anyone now that that is a wrong or immoral thing to do now that supposedly the world police and a global superpower and the most moral army in the world, Israel, has carried out exactly that, such a thing.

 

And I don’t need to belabour the point, but they’ve been doing this for a long time. And you can look back as far as Dresden and the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, to say:

 

“Well, that’s how these people act! And people who oppose them should act accordingly and plan accordingly.”

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I agree. And not only this or not only what you guys have said, but I do think it’s very interesting that on top of everything you guys have said, there is also the issue of Russia and Zelensky.

 

Now obviously if Russia had wanted to, they could have bombed Kiev, day one of the conflict and absolutely just beheaded the regime. Now Russia never did that. Now I’m not saying Russia are the good guys or shilling for Russia, but it is an interesting comparison to see that everything that Russia has been accused of, the West has done and the West has done it in a much more sort of egregious fashion. It’s quite interesting.

 

And this so-called “Axis of Evil” now appears to be far less evil than the “good guys”. The “good guys” have shown, I said that in inverted commas. Have shown their hand. They’ve, it’s a mask off moment. I don’t know if anyone wants to add something to this because we did talk about this a lot, but I’ll give you the chance to follow up if anyone wants to talk about this.

 

Natty: Yeah, go on. Yuro, you go first.

 

Yuro: I was just gonna say it’s a complete moral inversion. It’s, we are supposedly the good guys because we fight against the bad guys. And they’re all terrorists. They’re inherently evil. I was listening to, I think this was on the Daily Shoah they were talking about basically the term “terrorist” is a social construction. It’s just a word we can use to label somebody and all of a sudden their grievances illegitimate. We don’t have to stick to the rules of engagement. We can just murder them, we can murder their families and put them in jail. We just put this label on them and they are inherently evil.

 

But you know, the Ayatollah was never in the Epstein files. That’s the difference.

 

Natty: Yeah, the Ayatollah never called me a goyim or demographically replaced my people or ethnically cleansed my people. So you know, what beef do I have with the Ayatollah, at this point? And like Mark was saying, the Russians opened Ukraine, the Ukraine conflict by striking out military targets. They were landing at Hostomel Airport and controlling like major supply routes. And the Jewpedo regime starts its war with an assassination of a leader, or a spiritual leader. Not a military strategist or anything like that. A spiritual leader who’s in his 80s as well as his granddaughter and his family members all blown up. And like blowing up a school with 12 to 17 year old school girls in it. Now you tell me, yeah, you tell me who the bad guys are.

 

Yuro: It’s worth pointing out as well that the entire war in Ukraine or although it was something that had been kind of slowly building up for a while, that NATO had been expanding further and further eastward, it was really brought to the fore because Russia was supporting Assad in Syria. And the Epstein empire had to take out Syria in order to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hezbollah and getting to Gaza.

 

And so they started this whole other conflict to take Russia’s focus away from helping their allies in Syria. And that allowed them to get in there and destroy Syria. And it’s all part of the same program.

 

Natty: The same grand strategy. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people kind of don’t seem to understand that. They’re like:

 

“Well that seems, that seems too far fetched that the Pedojew regime would start a war with Russia in Ukraine just to help topple the Syrian government. Or the Pedo jew regime would kidnap a South American president just to support an ongoing or like support a future war against Iran with oil, you know, oil routes and all the rest of it.”

 

Because people are like:

 

“No, that can’t be right, you know, 50,000 Ukrainian men dead and God knows how many Russian men dead just to tie up Russian forces to leave Syria exposed?”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, that’s how these people think. That’s what they’re willing to do.”

 

And that’s what they did do. And in Syria, Russian troops, Russian air power in Syria was halting Israeli aggression and you know, Western aggression. It was the CIA, it was MI6 and was Mossad, was paying ISIS, which has now become HTS, which is basically ISIS, to mess up Syria and mess with Assad and sanctions on Assad’s government that was turning the place inhospitable. Making it so that just to live there was pain and it wasn’t the government was obviously suffering and trying its best, but the people suffer when you put sanctions on a country. So on behest of like jewish paedophiles and Israel, America just makes people’s lives a misery around the world, everywhere! You know, Ukrainian men dead, Syrian families wiped out, little girls in Iran, hundreds of thousands of civilians everywhere, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Libya, all dead! Because jewish paedophiles just cannot get enough blood.

 

Yuro: And until the extent that they have any support for the Israeli regime in places like the UK, people in the UK who support Israel, they see this as a war against the Muslims. And they hate Muslims because of what gangs of Pakistani men do to White girls after jewish people like Peter Mandelson and his friend Tony Blair, people like that brought them to our country.

 

And it works for them both ways because it destroys the youth of the British people. It destroys our homogeneous country. It creates resentment against Muslims which they can then use and say:

 

“Well, don’t you hate the Muslims, you hate the Pakistanis who are raping children over here!”

 

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Natty: Yeah:

 

“Live vicariously as we bomb them in the Middle East. Oh, we’re getting those dirty Muslims for you know, goyim! Don’t worry, we’re bombing them. You love it, don’t you? Rah, rah, ra! Let’s go Israel! Israel’s defending you! If we weren’t fighting them here, you’d be fighting them in your streets!”

 

Well, how? Okay, thanks, Schlomo. How did they get onto my streets in the first place? Anyone fancy answer that, answering that question?

 

Mark Collett: No, that’s a very good point. Now obviously we discussed that.

 

So when we discussed the Ayatollah being killed, we’ve discussed the schoolgirls being killed. I mean, know, as you said, the paedophiles are now murdering children. And this says something about America and Israel.

 

Now, I don’t think this was an accident. I don’t think that school being hit was in any way an accident. I think they did that on purpose. I think that’s the sort of people that they are. I think they do things like this because it pleases them to do things like this. And it pleases them to do things like this because to them this is they could avoided doing this, but they don’t want to avoid doing this. What they want to do is they want to cause as much hurt and pain as possible. Now these missile systems that they have, they are probably the best missile systems in the world. They understand where they can strike and where they can’t strike. Those missiles are pretty damn accurate.

 

So when they hit a school, I think that’s by some sort of sick design. I don’t believe it’s accidental. I don’t know if you guys want to add anything to that.

 

Natty: Yeah, there’s a term called “sub-metre accuracy” and I think Tomahawk missiles, I’m not sure about JDAMs, but certainly Tomahawk missiles and the types of missiles that the Jewpedo regime uses all have sub-metre accuracy.

 

So the claims about:

 

“Well, this girl school was next to a Iranian military base or something.”

 

These munitions have sub-metre accuracy, which means they can target within a metre, which is where they drop these bombs. I mean, are we supposed to pretend that the Pedojew regime is somehow like squeamish about blowing up children and civilians? A regime that goes out of its way to target hospitals and suburbs and then when it’s blown up the hospitals and suburbs, then blows up the tent cities that spring up around it to house all the refugees and injured people that you’ve just like totally displaced.

 

So these people are not squeamish about killing civilians then. They never have been. They never have been. Not for the last 70 years and probably not before that.

 

Yuro: We’re always told that we have the most advanced, precise, ultra accurate munitions. We can take out a terrorist in a crowd without killing anyone else:

 

“Oh, look, we dropped a bomb dead centre on that school. Total accident! We don’t know how it happened!”

 

Do you remember when they were attacking Gaza? I mean they’re always attacking Gaza, but in particular in the aftermath of October 7th and there were various organisations that went there to try to provide food relief and they had a car with a big logo on the top that says, “Food Kitchen”. It’s a non-governmental organisation, it’s a charity that’s bringing food to starving people in Gaza. And they sent a munition. It’s like a missile, but instead of a bomb, it’s got just like razor blades all around it.

 

And you can see the picture of the car, they sent it straight through the roof, directly on top of the driver’s seat and cut that man to bits! That’s how accurate they can be when they want to be. So they have the ability to do that they have the ability to do it. It is not an accident when they, …

 

Natty: The other interesting thing about the strike on the girls school was in the immediate aftermath, like there were shills online, there were online shills and righttoids and jews and all sorts of like scum coming out the woodwork claiming again, like they used to do in Gaza or like they have done in Gaza, that:

 

“Oh, this was an Iranian missile that kind of missed a target or misfired as they fired it out of Tehran and fell back on the girl school.”

 

Which was utterly disproved! And yet, you know, none of the people who were claiming this was like an Iranian misfire will ever be held to account or ever be made to apologise or made to like confront their lies about what this was. So the misinformation is hot and heavy.

 

But if you think, like I said, I’m going to reiterate this, if you think the Pedojew regime is squeamish about blowing up children, you’re mistaken. They’re not squeamish about blowing them up. Probably the only disappointing thing for the Pedojew regime is that these girls were blown up and didn’t have a chance to be like, sent off to Epstein’s island or something like that.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. The next thing is, this is quite interesting because it’s not the first time that Israel have admitted to bombing civilian populations. And we’ve discussed that they did it in Lebanon. They do it quite indiscriminately, they do it in Gaza.

 

But one thing’s quite interesting about these particular bombings and you guys made the point that they were bombing police stations. And I think they believe that they bombed police stations and took out government leaders and spiritual leaders, that there was going to be a revolution. And we’ve constantly heard this nonsense in the West, haven’t we? That the Iranian regime is hideously unpopular, that normal people in Iran hate the Ayatollah, they hate the government, the police, every organ of the state. I’d actually say more people in Britain hate Keir Starmer than people in Iran hate the Ayatollah.

 

But one thing that’s been very interesting is post these strikes and these indiscriminate missile attacks on schools, police stations and other sites around Tehran, we’ve seen more people out in the street supporting the Iranian government and wanting to fight back against America. I think that really underlines the fact that this idea that the Iranian people are all kept down, they have the Ayatollah’s boot on their head, this is nothing more than propaganda.

 

Natty: Oh, of course! It’s quite interesting to juxtapose it.

 

Can you imagine like a protest, or a march with hundreds of thousands of people ever coming out for any European government? I mean, the closest you got in the West was Trump, right? And that is quickly turned to ash in a lot of people’s mouths. He’s been exposed as basically just another neocon.

 

But if you put yourself in the shoes of like an Iranian, a normal Iranian citizen who’s just watched every single country where his kind of ethnic people, I know that Persians are maybe looked at differently than other people are on the Gulf states, whatever. All the other countries around him who aren’t in league with Israel have been like, brutally broken up and just left as failed states. Well, you’re going to want to cling to anything that stands up to these people and anything that resists being destroyed by them, because you know that if your government falls, that’s the end of any semblance of stability or normality you’ve got. You’re just going to have to either flee or deal with a failed state of a nation. So, of course they support it!

 

And you listen to like the BBC or Piers Morgan or some of these shows and you would think that, …

 

Mark Collett: Andrew Neil!

 

Natty: Yeah, he’s the worst! He’s a total Zio boot licker, man! I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen! [LOL] But like, you listen to these people and you’d think that every single person in Iran is just waiting, crouched behind their door, ready to rise up and take out this hugely unpopular government that everyone hates.

 

And like you said, there’s no government in Europe or anywhere in the West that is as popular with its people as the Iranian government. So take that as you will.

 

Yuro: Obviously, you know, Iran, I mean, I’m guessing, but much like most of the Middle East is awash with weapons from previous gayops and plans that we’ve had to overthrow them in the past.

 

But if you turn this around and let’s say some foreign actor blew up Parliament with every MP in it and blew up every diversity police station across the country and just dropped a bunch of weapons the chance of having a revolution would be much more likely here than it ever would be over there!

 

Natty: Yeah. And just to add on to this point, funnily enough, the strikes on Bahrain, and Bahrain’s a tiny little island nation. I mean, it used to be part of Iran. But the strikes on Bahrain look like they might actually foment a revolution because they’re kind of the Pedojew empire installed monarchy in Bahrain has lost its grip thanks to the Americans retreating and the actual people in Bahrain absolutely hate their rulers. And possibly, you know, news blackout and all the rest of it might actually foment a popular revolution in Bahrain and change governments there, [chuckling] which is supposed to be like a stronghold for the American empire and the Epstein regime and the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, which controls the Persian Gulf or it used to control the Persian Gulf until the Pedojew regime started this war. So yeah, good one, guys. How’s it going? How’s this war going for you?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I would say that you’ve got a very good point there. And it’s a good point because we are moving on to how is this war going? Well, this is the interesting thing. Trump was elected as the guy who was going to be the President of peace and he was also elected on this America First ticket.

 

The idea that he was going to look after the average American. Now since Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, we’ve seen sort of panic buying. Oil prices have spiked. This is something that isn’t helping normal Americans who are already struggling with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.

 

And I would say, for Trump, when you actually look at, you say, how’s it going for him personally? It’s not going well domestically, but his approval ratings are at an all time low. They’re actually beneath his previous approval ratings for his first term and actually beneath Biden’s approval ratings. Now he’s getting savaged.

 

Now obviously he’s going out on TV:

 

“Oh, none of these mean anything. This is rubbish! The people love me!”

 

And I’ve spoken about this before. Post World War II don’t think any Western leader has built a cult of personality as intense as Trump has done with the MAGA movement. Trump has truly built a cult of personality where people see him as the supreme leader.

 

But I think that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing! It’s a good thing because you have a dedicated support base. It’s a bad thing because often you become insulated and you only listen to that dedicated support base. And because you have that insulation, because you have that ring of people cheering you on and like:

 

“Up Trump! Yeah, you’re doing it right! You’re getting it right! Donald’s got it perfect! Bomb them all!”

 

You don’t actually hear the people outside of your immediate circle. And I think Trump has got this wrong. I think this is going to bring more misery on normal Americans. And I also think it could cost the Republicans the midterm.

 

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Yuro: I don’t think Trump got this wrong. I think Trump did this because his handlers wanted him to do this. I mean, was it Marco Rubio who basically came out and said Israel told us they were going to attack and when they attacked, we were going to get hit in response, so we just had to join them, basically, the tail wags the dog. We had to join in. They forced our hand.

 

And of course, Trump’s all over the Epstein files. He’s part of the Epstein class. He is part of that jewish Zionist Occupied Government [ZOG]. He’s not doing it because he thinks it’s going to make him popular. He’s doing it because he is either severely compromised or that’s just his team.

 

Natty: Yeah. And to assume that Trump cares anymore, I mean, he’s not up for a third term. And if he doesn’t care, do you think the jews who are running him and the Epstein, whoever takes over from Epstein cares about Trump’s reputation or cares even less about the American people and what they want? They were just dupes who were fooled into voting for him. And you can say:

 

“Well, the 2016 Trump train.”

 

Which was a lot more based and had a lot more kind of like groundswell, Right-wing energy behind it. Well:

 

“They were tricked as well. Right?”

 

But if you fell for it again and voted for him this time, they really must despise you and just think you’re the most stupid person ever going! And it’s been proven right. I mean, Trump has now burned any credibility he’s had. This is an extremely unpopular war, but it doesn’t matter. His reputation isn’t on the line anymore, and it’s not a consideration for the people pulling his strings. They wanted this war done. Trump was their best shot of getting it done. And so they’ve got him to enact it.

 

And what we’re seeing is the fallout. And who knows where this ends? I’m sure we’re going to move on to that point. But the suffering of the American people, the suffering of European people is not any concern to these people! And you might argue that European suffering and American suffering is just a little bit of icing on their cake.

 

Yuro: This is something that they’ve wanted for decades and they’ve realised that as time’s gone on its getting less and less possible. So they’ve done it now because now is more likely than tomorrow as bad as it is and as badly as they’re doing and not winning what they want to be. If they’d waited longer, they would have had even less chance.

 

So it’s just like it’s do or die. It’s all out now because they’ve got no other choice.

 

Natty: Right. That’s what I totally agree with that.

 

And what I’m saying is the considerations that like a rational government that cared about its people would make, and there’s going to be an energy crisis, our people are going to die in this war. It’s hugely unpopular. This doesn’t benefit us in the slightest. None of that is like, none of that is in consideration. And it’s clear when you listen to people that they don’t quite understand that. And you listen to like the media class trying to justify this war and just grasping for anything.

 

Whereas like the reality, the truth, that this is purely for Israel and purely for the pedojew empire just doesn’t, it’s quite a hard pill to swallow.

 

Yuro: And as always, it’s going to affect Europe and it’s going to affect the UK so much worse than it’s going to affect America, because America has its own energy supplies.

 

Whereas, you know, Europe has been deliberately cut off from Russian energy supplies and made to not take fuel from Iran in the first place. And so Europeans are probably going to freeze this winter because of what the Americans have done or the jewish-American empire has done. Yeah.

 

Natty: Not content with cutting off via like a jewishpedo regime war with Russia. Not content with cutting off like the majority of European energy supplies. Now [chuckling] the pedojew empire now starts another war in the Gulf, which will just totally screw energy prices. And I like you guys know this, but I’m in the middle of, I’ve almost finished building my house and part of that was installing a heating system and we’ve got like a central heating system.

 

Yuro: Didn’t install a heat pump, did you?

 

Natty: We did not install a heat pump. We installed a central heating oil boiler which we needed to run up as like commissioning the system [chuckling] and like we went to fill it up the day after this started and the price of central heating oil was like 63 per litre. And the day after this thing started and Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it went up by like 33 P per litre and it’s now at like 1 pound 33 a litre. So I know this isn’t funny because this is going to affect everyone, but it’s like these are real effects and no the people who started this war just don’t care about this. You haven’t felt this at the pumps yet, but my God, like you are going to and the whole of Europe is going to, so.

 

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Yuro: And it will be White pensioners who freeze whilst illegal migrants can turn up the heating as much as they want in hotels and non-Whites all over will get preferential benefits and help to make sure that they’re looked after while our people suffer.

 

Natty: Yeah, I mean that’s a given at this point.

 

But yeah, we’re about to be hit with this thing. I mean, unless it wraps up quickly, which is not going to happen.

 

Yuro: Even if it did wrap up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks. I mean this is what always happens when there’s a, like the price of oil shoots up, petrol prices shoot up, the price, …

 

Natty: Two days for it to rise. 106. Yeah, six weeks for it to creep its way back down. Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: They’re very interesting points and obviously it sort of goes into what we said before about Venezuela. It puts everything into context.

 

Now one of the things that he’s really. We’re going to talk a bit about the fight back here and what Iran has done, its retaliatory strikes, but one of the most disappointing things is they talk about this Axis of Evil, but so far Russia have condemned this. I’m not sure what China have said, if anything at all, but there’s largely a wave of silence about this, isn’t there? There isn’t sort of the international, … So when Russia started their, in inverted commas. They’re not my words, but their words, “the Special Military Operation”, you know, there was this wave of condemnation from every European country about the invasion of Ukraine.

 

However, here, this so-called “Axis of Evil”, China, Russia, etc, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of pushback other than a couple of snappy press statements.

 

And I think this does tell you something about Russia and China’s ability or readiness to get involved. Now I would say China is more concerned with potentially taking Taiwan. And the knock on effects of this is, well, China will look and say:

 

“If America can take out the leadership of countries they don’t like, why can’t we do the same to Taiwan?”

 

And I think Russia is still tied up in Ukraine, which is probably by design. I think part of the issue with Ukraine was pulling Russia so deep into Ukraine that it depleted their resources in places like Syria. So regimes did fall in areas that America wanted them, America and Israel wanted them to fall.

 

But what do you think about the lack of sort of international pushback on this?

 

Yuro: It’s obvious that the Chinese and Russians are helping the Iranians in terms of intelligence gathering, satellite imagery. Supposedly the Iranian missiles use like an encrypted Chinese GPS as opposed to the American run satellites.

 

But yeah, they’re not coming out and publicly saying a lot and they could be doing a lot more kind of out in the open. And if they were really serious, the Chinese and Russians could help the Iranians develop an actual nuclear weapon to allow them to have a deterrent to defend themselves. And that could have happened, you know, within the last decade, but we don’t see them doing it.

 

Natty: Well, I made this point to mark the other day. This is where I kind of disagree with you a little bit. I think there’s only so much they can do. And Russia can’t just import a nuke into Tehran or into Iran without them asking for it. And if you’ve been paying attention, …

 

Yuro: Well, they should ask for it then!

 

Natty: Well that’s, maybe you’re right and they probably should and they probably will if they ever, if they get through this thing in one piece. But Russia has to be asked to provide that nuke. And the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini has famously had a fatwa on acquiring nuclear weapons. Which, you know, looking back to how we opened this thing puts lie to the fact that:

 

“Iran is two weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is five weeks away from having a nuke!”

 

For the last 30 years, every couple of weeks. So for one, Iran has to ask these countries for things. And I’m fairly certain that Russia is providing military assistance. You know, maybe not flashy supersonic missiles and all the rest of it, but you know it’s a short hop across the Caspian Sea for Russia to send boats and send equipment down to Tehran as much as it can. Like you said, Mark, they’re tied up in Ukraine as per the pedojew regime’s plan.

 

And like you said, Yuro. They’re using encrypted Chinese satellite data for their missiles. And I’m sure, like satellite imagery of the surrounding Gulf states and areas that Iranian like ballistic missiles and drones are hitting is provided by the Chinese.

 

So I think Russia and China understand the stakes here and understand that if Iran falls or we’re kind of at a turning point in history of the future of the Pedojew regime empire and where it stands and if it manages to pull this off and destroy Iran, then who knows what’s next? And we, I guess, we can talk about that. But for Russia and China, they probably think that actually halting the Pedojew regime here is probably a good thing to do.

 

And as much as much as they can do under the table, they’re going to do. And if it gets any hotter than that, well, who knows? But I disagree with you that they’re not helping as much as they could be.

 

Yuro: I don’t expect them to hand over a dozen nuclear weapons and say:

 

“Here you go!”

 

But why is Iran using such an antiquated air force instead of more modern Russian fighter planes, for example? Like, things like that would not be outside of the realm of possibility.

 

[1:12:38]

 

Natty: Well, because that’s not where the Iranian like, national defense has been focused. America, whatever you like to say about it, dominates the air and it always has. It has the most advanced and the most aeroplanes that it can put in the sky. You know, carrier groups all over the place, air bases all over the place. And Iran has had a long time to prepare for this. They’ve watched what’s happened around them and has decided actually our best national defense is in this missile capability and drone capability. And if Russia sent a squadron of like Su-22s or whatever the latest MIGs are, they would probably be shot down in fairly short order, which would be waste of resources.

 

So I think this idea, like I said, I think this idea that they’re not helping as much as they can is misplaced.

 

And interestingly enough, Arab Natsoc in the chat has just said Iran has a hyper fixation on self sufficiency. And he says it’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.

 

And I think that’s probably correct. Like I said it’s not up to China and Russia just to unload the docks in some port somewhere. Just tons and tons of military hardware that Iran never asked for. You know, they’ve got to agree these things and they’ve got to ask for it and they’ve got to trade for it and give things away and they probably feel they don’t need to. And judging by what’s happening so far, maybe they’re right. They didn’t need it. Maybe whatever they’ve asked for, they’re utilising and anything they haven’t asked for, they don’t really need.

 

Yuro: [with a Russian accent]

 

“I’m sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to leave that pallet of nuclear weapons. You can do what you like with them.”

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, [chuckling] I did say this in all fairness, mate, I think I did say to you it would probably, to do something like this or to create a deal of that sort you would probably actually need for the Iranian regime to fundamentally turn around and say:

 

“Look, you’re gonna have half of our country, you’re gonna have X amount of our oil production. You’re going to be able to put your own bases on our soil. You’re going to have this power over us.”

 

And then Russia or China might say:

 

“Well, this is actually worth it. Then we will put bases on your soil. This is absolutely worth it! We’re going for it. Thanks. Thanks a bunch, guys. You know, this works.”

 

But the Iranians might not actually want that they might not actually want Russia and China to have that much control over Iranian politics.

 

Natty: Yeah, that’s absolutely right!

 

And if you think about it, that would turn Iran into a, like a, not exactly a vassal state, but as a, like an arm of Russia or an arm of China.

 

Whereas if they come out of this unscathed, they emerge as the regional power in the Middle East, which has much bigger implications for them and then makes them bigger on the world stage than just being an outpost of Russia or China.

 

Yuro: But they could trade on more equal terms with the North Koreans. And the North Koreans have come out and said:

 

“If they ask for a nuke, they’ll get one.”

 

Natty: Well maybe they will. I suspect the Iranian government is going to be much more looking at that idea much more favourably after this.

 

Mark Collett: Well, that is an interesting point.

 

And ultimately I’ve said this on many streams, but we are in a situation where that is the only way that you can keep America off your back. That’s the only reason North Korea didn’t fall. It’s the only reason Russia probably hasn’t been invaded or struck by the Americans. I think if Russia didn’t have nukes, undoubtedly America would have attacked them.

 

But despite them not having nukes, I will say this. I think the Iranians retaliatory strikes have been extremely impressive! But amongst those retaliatory strikes, it is noted that, because when this all started, I was thinking:

 

“Why are they bombing refineries? Why are they attacking refineries in other Arab nations? Surely that’s going to annoy potential allies. Why would they do such a thing? You know, we don’t do that, guys, because if you do, you’re going to end up being a pariah state and you know, your next door neighbours aren’t going to want to essentially work with you.”

 

And then the other day it comes out that effectively what you’re seeing here is not Iran striking these oil refineries, but the strikes on the oil refineries have been carried out by Israel!

 

So what do you think to Iran’s actual retaliation and what do you think of Israel’s rather underhanded attacks? Because, and this isn’t just theory crafting. We’ve actually seen over the last, 24 hours scores of Mossad agents being arrested around the Middle East for being involved in false flag operations in numerous Middle Eastern nations.

 

And of course, this is something that we all know happens. This is something that we all are completely aware of you know, we know that Israel is regularly involved in sort of false flag events. This is something that has happened many, many times in the past.

 

And I think it’s interesting that this is being exposed. So we’ve had the USS Liberty, [we’ve had 9/11] we’ve had bombings in the Middle East. We’ve had potential or we’ve had sort of “terror attacks” in inverted commas in numerous countries which have turned out to be the work of Israeli agents. And we’re seeing that again now.

 

So I think Iran has performed far more ably than people might have thought. Sadly, they don’t seem to be winning this. Their navy seems to be taking major hits.

 

But some of these retaliatory strikes are looking questionable, are actually the work of Israel.

 

[1:19:06]

 

 

Yuro: Well, supposedly, I mean, who’s to say that the attack on our base in Cyprus was actually carried out by Iran? Because didn’t Keir Starmer say:

 

“Oh, we won’t actually engage in hostile actions, we’ll only defend Israel with our planes!”

 

Which is, of course, kind of a schizophrenic point of view in the first place. But then all of a sudden:

 

“Oh, look, our base in Cyprus is attacked and now we can kind of get in fully without restriction.”

 

Natty: So that’s a good point. I mean, we can talk about RAF Akrotiri, but if you look at where Cyprus is on a map, any Iranian weapons, munitions, whether it’s drones or missiles or whatever, have to fly over, like directly over Israel. So there’s speculation it was like Hezbollah or possibly someone else or even maybe a, like an Israeli false flag, which is certainly possible. And who can say?

 

But it does seem like the refineries in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are Mossad operations to blow them up. With the point being to try and engage those countries on behalf of Israel to come into the war on behalf of Israel and do what they can or do more for Israel.

 

But coming back to your point, Mark, about the strikes that Iran have carried out, it’s not clear to me that they’re losing. I mean, you say it seems they’re losing. I’m not sure that’s totally true. And we spoke about this before I think a few months back on the Nationalist A-Team, where I think they’re doing much more, they’re doing a much more capable job than anyone except expected them to in the sensibility and where they’re striking.

 

So they’re hitting US bases in these Gulf oil states, you know, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And they’re forcing the Americans to retreat, which stretches their logistic lines. And like we said earlier, they may have fomented an uprising in Bahrain and they’re making these Arab states which have been paid off or controlled by Israel in some way unstable and shaky. And the Israeli installed governments and monarchs and regimes in these countries are looking incredibly shaky or shaky as you’ve just put in the chat, that you’re on shaky ground. And hitting Dubai, well, that’s just popular with everyone in the entire world. So what do you say about that?

 

Yuro: It’s kind of, it’s almost like their own kind of Samson Option, except inherently justified and not evil because they’re only going after the American bases and the people supporting the Americans and the Israelis.

 

But you know, they’ve said:

 

“If we’re attacked from here. We’re going to take this, and just kind of everything in the region, every American base.”

 

And it’s entirely justified because these countries can’t claim to be not involved:

 

“Oh yes, we’re not involved in this. We just have a base where your enemy is launching attacks on you, but we’re not involved!”

 

And then the moment Iran says:

 

“Okay, well we’re not going to attack you, we’re not going to attack your people, but we’ll take out that base.”

 

And then say Saudi Arabia:

 

“So we’re under attack, we’re being attacked.”

 

Well, no!

 

Natty: That’s American soil. That’s American soil there buddy! A totally legitimate target by anyone’s standards.

 

Yuro: I mean, it seems like Iran is taking a kind of “tank and turtle” strategy. You know, it’s like when you play a, like a strategy game and you can put a lot into units or you can just build up your base and wait for them to come to you. And it can be risky because there’s a possibility that you get overwhelmed.

 

But if you’re turtle enough you can withstand that storm and then you can turn around.

 

Mark Collett: Is Yuro the tank or the turtle? That’s the question. [chuckling]

 

Natty: Depends what he’s had to eat. [chuckling]

 

Yuro: Turtling and tanking, kind of the same thing.

 

Natty: But I think like Iran by its like geography is kind of is able to naturally turtle and the fact is that there’s so many assets that America have placed around it and like the jewpedo regime have around it. And the fact that Israel is within striking distance means it can strike effectively. And America is very powerful and has a very powerful military, but that military still has logistical concerns and still has aircraft carriers that are clogged [chuckling] with like fat Mexican sailors poo!

 

Yuro: American aircraft carriers are as full of shit as Donald Trump!

 

Natty: Well, [chuckling] yeah, agreed.

 

Mark Collett: Well that’s the thing. Look, I mean, we haven’t seen an aircraft carrier at the bottom of the Persian Gulf yet, have we? Now you might be saying:

 

“Oh well, Mark, that’s a big ask.”

 

Because Obviously, if that happened, we would actually probably see the beginning of World War III! Because at that point, I think Trump would have to put boots on the ground. It actually might be the end of him. You know, it’d be one of the other, wouldn’t it? He’d either have to put boots on the ground or it’d be the end of him. But we are yet to see an aircraft carrier effectively being scrapped.

 

Now, that doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything in retaliation, but they’re not hitting the big targets. And look, we’ve had American commentators, some of these American commentators that do these sort of big takes on these things. You hear them talking about this Axis of Resistance and saying:

 

“Oh the time will come when these hypersonic missiles are going to be putting aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Persian Gulf!”

 

We yet to see that, are we? I mean, we’re also yet to see any of these sort of hypersonic super weapons take out leading members of the Israeli government or the Israeli regime. You know, I know Yuro doesn’t like the word “regime”, which we keep using, but that is an interesting point. We haven’t seen Israel struck. Israel has been proved to be not invincible, I think it’s fair to say that. But we haven’t seen the Israeli government reeling in the same way that the Iranian government has.

 

[1:25:49]

 

Yuro: Well, there’s a couple of points to make here. First off, with regards to the aircraft carriers, the American Navy has been keeping the aircraft carriers at a much greater range than they would normally use them to attack somebody because they are scared of those missiles. And the Iranians have launched small salvos of kind of like four missiles at time at them and got them to basically back off and back off to a greater distance, which means they can do much fewer kind of bombing runs at once and they have more fuel requirements and greater maintenance on the planes. So it is diminishing America’s capability to attack.

 

There was also satellite footage, I think, from a Chinese satellite that showed a fire on one of the destroyers in one of the aircraft carriers escorts. So potentially that was hit by Iranian missiles and although not sunk, caught fire. So they’re keeping them at bay. The Americans know if they get any closer, they will be hit.

 

And with regards to the missiles that they’re firing, it seems like they’ve used a lot of their kind of crappier munitions and their older munitions, like everything they’ve been launching at the other Gulf states is short range ballistic missiles that don’t have the range to go anywhere else. So they might as well use them on these targets. And they’ve been using up these older, less advanced munitions and drones and still still getting so many interceptors wasted before they actually bring out the big guns. And we’ve seen within the past day or two they’re starting to launch these missiles. I can’t remember the name of them, but they’re like a very large cluster munition that drops about 60 different submunitions on the way down and they’re dropping those on Israel.

 

And as I said in the very beginning, we just don’t know how much is actually getting through and how much damage they’re actually doing because it’s censored and covered up.

 

Natty: Yeah, we did touch on this and like you said, like an interceptor system, like a THAAD or like a Patriot battery or whatever, costs like in the millions, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’re being used up [chuckling] like drones with lawnmower engines and like a few kilogram warheads. And Iran’s just like churning these things out, like churning them out and churning them out and they’re still intact and they’re at some point America is going to run out of interceptors.

 

And I don’t know if you saw this, but the pedojew regime in America like called its defense manufacturers, heads of its defense manufacturing industry in for like an emergency meeting to say:

 

“We need more missiles! We need more stuff like come on, make it happen!”

 

But I was listening to something earlier saying this is very well demanding that, but there’s a lot of a very expensive gear that goes into this stuff, like certain gases and certain rare earth elements and guidance systems and radio radar systems and optics and all the rest of it that has to go into this missile production.

 

Meanwhile, you know, Iran can get like a cheap [chuckling] Chinese lawnmower engine, stick it in a, like a fiberglass Shahed drone shell, put a bit of explosive on the tip of it and just launch it wherever it runs, you know, within a few hundred mile radius, which is enough to cover the Gulf states and Strait of Hormuz and all this oil production that Europe relies on and lots of other people rely on and it’s going to destabilise all these countries that surround it.

 

Yuro: There’s a psychological aspect of them just doing the drip, drip, drip, dropping wave after wave of missiles on the Israelis, that’s definitely going to be wearing the Israelis down.

 

And also let’s say they absolutely opened up and dropped every missile that they had on Tel Aviv and the surrounding areas. Well in that situation the Israelis would come out and enact the Samson Option, wouldn’t they? And just you know, destroy them with their own nuclear weapons so that obviously they’re not going to feel like they can just drop everything on them at once because they don’t want to force them into that corner where they say:

 

“All right, well we’re doomed anyway!”

 

Natty: Well the other thing to remember is for Iran, the people in Iran and the government in Iran understands this is like a fight for survival. Like I said earlier, if they lose now, if they fail in this defense of their nation, they turn into a failed state. Israel has free reign and MI6 and the CIA have free reign to just fund all sorts of horrible like disgusting groups like ISIS and like the Kurds and everyone else to come and storm their country and make it into a living hellhole, just like they’ve done with Syria and Iraq and Libya.

 

So they understand this is a fight for their survival. So they’ve got to bend their entire will to doing this. Israel and America can stop anytime and can be forced to their knees if their civilian populations demand it. You know dropping cluster munitions on Tel Aviv is like a terror tactic. Well I mean “terror” in like air quotes, right? But at some point the Israeli people, the jews in Israel were going to have had enough of air raid sirens and cluster munitions raining on their heads and could be going to demand that it ends one way or another.

 

And this is what happened in the 12 Day War. I mean if you listen to shills and like pedojew media you would think that Iran lost a 12 day war, but it was Israel who cried off, who’d taken enough punishment from everything I can see. And it’s only a matter of time. I mean if Iran can sustain what it’s doing the Iron Dome is not stopping a giant like cluster warhead that like you said drops 60 submunitions on the city in a suburb somewhere, they’re going to cry uncle and they’re going to bend the knee to Iran.

 

[1:32:14]

 

Meanwhile Iran can’t stop and it simply can’t otherwise it fails. And I’m sure almost everyone in the country understands that.

 

Yuro: This is like a boxing match where the other side controls the bell. You know, you’ve got Mike Tyson there and he’s got the bell. He chooses when the match ends. You don’t want to give it everything you’ve got and gas out too early because it might go on another five minutes.

 

So they are happy to let this draw out. And everything that the Americans and the Israelis has done has all been about, let’s go in there with the alpha strike, let’s drop as much on them as we can, let’s take out this, let’s take out that, and then we’ll just walk away and say:

 

“Mission successful, we can walk away now.”

 

And the Iranians are like:

 

“No, we’re not surrendering! We’re going to keep on fighting!”

 

Because as time continues it gets more and more in their favour. What they don’t want to do is say:

 

“Right let’s have a ceasefire!”

 

And three months, six months down the line, it starts all over again. They’re better off just continuing it now.

 

Natty: Yeah, I agree with that.

 

I mean, this is, like I said, this is a long, long time in the making. This is a long term plan of Israel’s to destroy and destabilise Iran. So if there’s ever, if there’s a ceasefire, if this stops, it’s going to be back on again at some point. And in the same way that a Gaza ceasefire isn’t really a ceasefire and at some point Israel is going to move on Gaza again and try and wipe those people out. So I think the Iranians understand that. Well, hopefully they understand that.

 

So we’ll see what happens.

 

Mark Collett: Well, it is interesting because they haven’t begged, have they haven’t begged and they haven’t cucked! I think they know there is no negotiations. That’s one of the big problems earlier that we talked about though. You know, when you make it so negotiation is meaningless, you essentially do put people with their backs to the wall. You know, if you’ve got a guy, you know, stood in his house with a pistol and the police are like:

 

“Look, let’s negotiate.”

 

But you know that when the police come through that door, they’re going to shoot you no matter what. At that point, what are you going to do? Is it going to be fight to the death, blaze of glory time, or is it going to be:

 

“Well, I’ll spend 12 hours negotiating only to be shot in the head anyway.”

 

At that point, you are creating an interesting sort of situation where fundamentally the American word is good for nothing! And the only answer is to fight to the death. And look, you know, without going into World War II, many, many Germans surrendered in good faith, believing that they were going to be treated like human beings, that they were going to be treated honourably, that surrendering to the Americans would be the right thing, that they would go home, that they would be treated as prisoners of war. And then they were brutalised and starved to death. I mean, surrendering to America is often, …

 

Natty: Or sent to Russia as slaves.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Natty: Even starved on the banks of the Rhine or sent to Russia as slaves. Yeah, you shouldn’t imagine that you’re going to be treated fairly if you surrender to these people. They’ve shown, as we discussed earlier, they’ve shown that they’ve got no honour. They’ve shown that they’re dishonourable people and they don’t treat civilians well. Those are the lessons that should be taken from this.

 

Yuro: They protest for their right to rape captives. When their own people have been caught on video, you know, sodomizing prisoners like Gazans that they’ve captured, they protest. And they don’t say it didn’t happen

 

Natty: Out in the street.

 

Yuro: Yeah, they said they turn out in the street to protest and say:

 

“We should be allowed to sodomize them!”

 

Is there any other country in the world where you would get that?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I think one of the interesting things about Trump, and this is sort of just one of my sort of notes on this, is that Trump came in as this “art of the deal”, wanting to put world peace on the table, get America out of the foreign wars that have dogged it for some time. And essentially what we’ve actually seen is quite the opposite. Trump actually does seem to be. And this isn’t meant to be a compliment, by the way, but it probably comes off as a little bit of a compliment. But he does seem to be sort of the ultimate ZOG warlord, doesn’t he? Trump as a guy, as a mad sort of emperor stood, you know, addressing his troops does seem to be a role that he slips into far more easily and readily than the role of peacemaker.

 

Now, I’ve seen him in these interviews. I’ve seen him talking about future operations. I’ve seen the way he really does love having this power and being able to tell other nations to bow to him or else. And that’s what he’s saying, really, with Iran:

 

“You’ll do what I say or I’m going to completely raze you to the ground!”

 

Now saying that, do you think there has ever been a more philo-semitic president? And following this, do you think this will change the way Americans vote in the future?

 

[1:37:45]

 

 

Natty: I doubt it. And there may have been more philo-semitic presidents, but certainly not in our time, or I mean, our time is in a time when I’ve been a, like an adult. I think I was 12 at the time when the first Gulf War started, when Bush rolled into Iraq and dragged Blair in and dragged the rest of the British people in. But it’s hard to imagine a more philo-semitic president.

 

And I think part of the problem is. Well, maybe it’s not a problem for them, although it might turn out to be, who knows, depending on how this thing goes, is that more and more people were just nakedly seeing it as that it’s like, why, what possible reason could the American people, like the people in America have for engaging in this terminal war with Iran? What possible cause do the British people have against the people of Iran? You know, flimsy excuses like:

 

“Oh, they’re a terrorist nation and you know, they might at some point have a nuke!”

 

This just doesn’t cut it. This isn’t a reason that sensible people would launch wars against people and go on these destructive campaigns against people.

 

Yuro: Sunni Pakistanis rape children. So we need to fight against them

 

Natty: Yeah:

 

“We need to fight a Shia country, a Persian Shia country!”

 

Yeah, absolute lunacy! But people, I think people genuinely understand more now. But this is just jews! This is a war for jews. It’s a war for Israel. And Trump is like deeply, deeply friends with the jewish paedophile who was the mover and shaker for the evil jewish paedophile regime. This is their guy. You know, he is their guy and he’s the guy who’s going to see this done. Not for you, not for your family, not for the American infrastructure, not for the home country and what it means for the future of America, but for Israel and for his jewish handlers. And people, I think, understand that. More and more people understand that, which is why this war is so unpopular.

 

Yuro: We see more and more people waking up to jewish power every day. And in America, I mean, you see mainstream Leftists like Ana Kasparian from the young Turks goes out and just says:

 

“The goyim are waking up! Deal with it!”

 

And that’s amazing to see and it’s a great thing! But at the end of the day there’s no one for them to vote for. The two party system in America is so entrenched, they’re not going to have that option anytime soon to actually get out of it. I mean you’re just going to have a continuation of the same thing where you have presidents get elected and have lower and lower approval ratings, but the people just won’t believe it.

 

Natty: And that’s like you said, no other choice. And I’ll remind, you know, Mark was saying that President Trump ran on like a “no foreign intervention, no foreign wars” ticket. Certainly in 2016 he did. But every president has done that and most of the prime ministers and most of the regimes in this country have run on the same kind of, “we’re not for foreign wars”!

 

And yet every time there’s a foreign war on behalf of Israel and the jews, these people snap to. And all of a sudden it’s:

 

“Well, this war is justified. And this is a terrorist regime and Syria used Sarin gas on its people and Iran is a terrorist state and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

So these people know that foreign wars aren’t popular and you know, foreign wars within justifications, but foreign wars where there is literally no justification apart from the jews want us to do this, are extremely unpopular! And burn through the veil that these people use to hide what they do and kind of hide the levers they pull in order to get what they want.

 

Mark Collett: That’s very interesting. And I do concur. I don’t think there is anyone else to vote for. But I’m not really here to correct anyone tonight. I think everyone’s made excellent points, but you are actually wrong that it was just, 2016. There are pictures floating around that I’ve actually shared showing with Trump and Vance stood together and it’s the kind of text around them is “the peace ticket”, you know, saying:

 

“You’re voting first, you’re voting for peace!”

 

This is what they ran on this time as well. And Trump did make these huge sort of overtures to the Nobel Committee, that he wanted the Nobel Prize Peace Prize, that he was going to stop these wars, which obviously he hasn’t done.

 

Natty: I think I’m probably guilty of paying less attention to the Trump campaign in 2022, [chuckling] when it was in 2016. But, yeah, I can well believe it. And I’ve heard, I’ve seen that in headlines, quoted for the peace ticket. And Trump lambasting Obama on Twitter at the time, saying:

 

“Oh, Obama’s going to start a war in Iran because he’s such a terrible negotiator and he sucks at being a peaceful president.”

 

And it’s like, yeah so many years later, you’re the guy. You’re the guy these people have activated to get this done.

 

[1:43:07]

 

Mark Collett: Well, indeed. And the next point, because we’re sort of getting towards what do we think’s going to happen?

 

But before we do that, I think one of the interesting things about this is we’ve seen, so there are a lot of, what can I call them, “Shitbag influencers” like Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil. I despise Andrew Neil! Fat, worthless toad! The day he has sort of a gigantic Coronary as he sat eating his sort of duck pate on his terrace in the south of France will be a good day for the world! That guy is always on the wrong side of everything. He wants to attack Iran, wanted all the Covid restrictions. I can’t remember him ever saying anything good. He is scum of the earth!

 

But on the other side, we have seen this in interesting bipartisan pushback. We’ve seen Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Ana Kasparian. There has been this mass awakening to Israel! I mean, Tucker Carlson stood in front of Turning Point USA getting a standing ovation for saying:

 

“Israel needs to get out of American politics!”

 

That is seismic. You know, he is still the biggest American political voice in terms of being an influencer. I think this is incredible!

 

Now, I was somebody that was quite happy for Trump to get in for a couple of reasons, but one of the reasons being that I believed that this would bring things to a head. I believe that the Trump regime would be the regime that accelerated things to a point where numerous people who had previously been extremely philo-semitic would end up coming out, breaking ranks, and there would be a mainstream acceptance of our points. I remember saying that, actually I was briefly invited on WarStrike, of all streams, the night of the election.

 

And I was like:

 

“Look, this isn’t a bad thing! Don’t have a cow over this basically. This is something that may well bring us certain benefits.”

 

And I think that we are sort of seeing this to a large degree now. What do you guys think about this? Because I can’t really remember the last time we’ve actually seen a such a bipartisan move against Israel. And it’s not just the ones I’ve mentioned. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been incredible! Tucker Carlson’s leading the charge with young Right-wing males and females. Turning Point USA, which used to be absolutely ZOGged, is now a hive of like counter-semitism, if you like.

 

And on top of all of that, having the absolutely delightful and wife ready material known as Ana Kasparian.

 

Yuro: She’s absolutely perfect! [chuckling] Coming out for me!

 

Mark Collett: What? What did you say Yuro?

 

Natty: What did you say?

 

Yuro: It’s a bit brown for me.

 

Natty: Get out! Booted from this stream!

 

Mark Collett: You know what? Do you know what? Yuro’s got this thing, right, where you show any girl who’s got the mildest amount of than, and he goes into some kind of like tail spin as if like White women have never ever set foot out of the house!

 

Yuro: Are Armenians White?

 

Natty: This one is. This one certainly is!

 

Yuro: If she’s anti-semitic, she’s White! Okay.

 

Mark Collett: The question is, Yuro, are you White? [chuckling] Because the fact you’ve asked this of our lady in chief, …

 

Natty: Perfect Queen.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, a perfect Queen means maybe you’re, …

 

Yuro: I’m not as big as simp as you are mate!

 

Mark Collett: Mate, there’s nothing simpy about loving Ana!

 

Natty: It’s [chuckling] a justified simpery.

 

Mark Collett: It’s justified simpery. Yeah. And so why I like Ana as well is when she gets angry, she just doesn’t hold back, does she? She’s one of those people, sometimes watching somebody get really angry, …

 

Natty: There was a clip, there was a clip of her on Piers Morgan and she was like yelling at these like jews. There were like six of them on the panel and I think they were all jews apart from her and Piers Morgan. And she’s like yelling and screaming at them because they’re trying to dissemble and you know, do what “aboutery” about the killing in Gaza and the killing kids in Iran and stuff. And she’s really letting them have it! And she’s screaming at them. There was some like Boomer in the Facebook comments, like:

 

“Oh, I tried to watch it but I couldn’t take the screeching!”

 

I just, I put underneath it, I was like:

 

“I would listen to her scream about jews in my ear all night!”

 

Mark Collett: Look, [chuckling] that is how I feel that like she has come out and when she does it? She does it! So if you’re screaming like some mad, sort of disheveled, for want of a better term, “Karen” and so you’re sort of mad because there was only, …

 

Yuro: Karen is a slur.

 

Mark Collett: Well, it is, but Karen can also, you know what I mean? You get some women who’ll go crackers over like the fact there’s only seven olives in there, you know, olive pasta. And the menu shows eight or something and they throw an absolute fit over it! But the way she blows up, it’s so attractive. She’s like:

 

“Don’t give me this! You disgusting Zionist pig! You make me sick!”

 

And she’s enunciating every one of her words and she’s not holding back either. She’s like:

 

“You child killing monsters!”

 

Natty: It’s like righteous fury at the people she’s like, that’s been put up on these panel shows.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. Exactly! And when you’re watching it’s extremely attractive! It’s not sort of like I said, I know “Karen” is a bit of an anti-White slur, but it’s not Karen-esque. It’s not like an overly liberal White woman and who’s outraged because of something minor that normal people are like:

 

“Look, just pull yourself together.”

 

The way she does it, I find it to be absolutely cracking! I love it!

 

Anyway, that’s enough glazing of Ana Kasparian. I mean, look, can there ever be enough glazing about the Kasparian? That could be a two hour stream in itself!

 

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Natty: It’s for Yuro, apparently. I mean, Yuro’s not on the Kasparian train here, unfortunately. Maybe we’ll have to have a word with [word unclear] after the stream.

 

Mark Collett: We have to, … You mean a beating? [chuckling]

 

Natty: You’re going to a re-education camp.

 

Mark Collett: After the show in the green room, we give him a kicking!

 

So what do you think of this bipartisan movement, though? I find it refreshing. I like it. And it’s got real gravitas. Because, look, I was on the David Duke show earlier and obviously I work with David probably more than anybody else in the world, for better or worse. And I love David! He’s a real character. He can be a bit difficult at times, but he’s a real character. But sadly, David does not have the influence he once had.

 

And I’m not saying that to sort of mock David or deride David. I’m just saying that as a statement of fact. But somebody like Ana Kasparian does have that power! She does have that gravitas, but so does Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, Tucker Carlson. Absolutely massive! And you’re watching these people tear in to the Zionist cause and attack these Warhawk jews. It is very refreshing! I mean, well, for me, it is anyway. I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I love it!

 

I mean, how does this make you feel after all the years of being in the wilderness? Look, being in the wilderness is something that. I am still very much in the wilderness, despite all my hard work over the years, despite my incredible consistency. Like, if I’m not the perfect guy, okay, not by a long, long means, I am very good at debates, but I’m not the perfect guy. I have my foibles. I screw up, …

 

Yuro: Not good at controlling your temper.

 

Mark Collett: I was gonna joke there by exploding at you!

 

Natty: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: I’m not brilliant at controlling my temper, but one thing you’ve got to say for me is that throughout all these years, I have been extremely consistent in what I’ve stood for.

 

Now, when it comes down to it, seeing these people, for me, anyway, come out and be sort of so, you know, completely anti-Israel. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen it. And it’s not just relying on, as I said, this isn’t to knock David, but it’s not just to rely on me and David Duke making the point anymore. You know, these points are being made by these more mainstream individuals who’ve got serious gravitas. And I actually like that. I think it’s something that I think is really important. Seeing Ana Kasparian and seeing all these others doing it. I think this has taken our message to a new crowd. And it’s interesting to see that there are people all over the political system who have had enough of Israel.

 

Natty: Yeah. And I think having this kind of, it’s not perfect. The things they say aren’t perfect. Right. And the problem isn’t just Israel. And I think most people get that. And this isn’t to kind of pee on your cornflakes, Mark. But even the things they’re saying do give amount of headroom for anyone who’s less sizable and less influential from them to kind of push those boundaries a little bit more. And there is further to push.

 

I mean, we shouldn’t be coming around the campfire at this stage to stretch your wilderness analogy. We should be trying to, we should still be in the wilderness telling the truth and putting the final truth to it. Because, like I said the things are saying are anti-Israel, which is like 90% of the way there, right?

 

And like I said, giving headroom for more, not extreme, that’s not the word, but for a greater and more deep understanding to come forth.

 

And I think that you are going to see from this war with Iran, you’re going to see a tranche of politicians and people emerge who are willing to say these things. And sure, amongst those people there are going to be shills and they’re going to be subversive people, but at some point it just becomes like a political football whether you support Israel and whether you’re going to do their bidding.

 

I mean, one of the disappointing things with Rupert Lowe is he hasn’t really come out against, he hasn’t made a statement against Israel, which I’m sure none of us really expect, but now would be the perfect time for someone in his position to make that leap. We haven’t seen it yet, but I think this just pushes that football a little bit further down the road. You know, pushes the can a little bit further down the road to give space for that to happen.

 

Yuro: I think every day that the Rupert Lowe goes out and doesn’t support Israel, even if he won’t explicitly say that he’s against them, obviously that’s giving us room and whatnot.

 

But another thing, sort of talking about, obviously, the goyim waking up and Trump, I think it is great that we see all these people realizing the extent of jewish power.

 

And I think Trump especially is to thank for it, because he is just so openly philo-semitic in a way that no previous president, even if they love jews as much as he does, they just wouldn’t do it so openly! You know, he goes out there and declares himself the King of Israel and he says this, that and the other. And it’s again, with the attack on Iran and the thing with Venezuela, there’s not even a pretence anymore. It’s just:

 

“We’re doing this because it’s in our interest and we’re attacking Iran because that’s what we want to do!”

 

They’re not having the pretence anymore.

 

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Mark Collett: I don’t like to cut across people because we’ve all been pretty good at not cutting across people. But I just wanted to further your point. You know, when Trump does things which are so sort of egregious [chuckling] that you sort of wonder why he’s saying them. Like when he said:

 

“Oh the Adelsons basically bought me the White House! So whenever they want to just walk in and ask for a policy to be passed, what am I gonna do? It’s the bloody Adelsons! They gave me about half a billion. How are you gonna say no to the people who gave you half a billion? Come on, guys, let’s get things going!”

 

You’re thinking to yourself:

 

“Are you actually saying this? Are you actually saying to people, ‘look, the Adelsons bought me the White House. So then when they want a policy passing, I just bring them in and say, ‘What do you want?’ And when they say, ‘I want this.’ I just give it to them’.”

 

Most people would know which bits not to say out loud. You know, it’s like when you were a kid, your mom was like:

 

“Did you clean up the house?”

 

You’d be like:

 

“Yeah, I did!”

 

But you wouldn’t be:

 

“Well, actually, I spilt the water from the big vase, partially flooded the living room, spent ages dabbing it up, and have hid the stain under the mat!”

 

Because there’s part of it that you don’t say out loud, isn’t there? And there’s part that you say out loud. But Trump, he says it all out loud, and it becomes sort of so almost jarring to hear him say it, because for years, we’ve heard that politicians are bought, they’re sold. You know, powerful foreign forces pay for politicians to do their bidding. And here’s Trump just honestly saying:

 

“Well, that’s exactly what happens! I do it all the time! The Adelsons basically funded me, and I did everything for them. So when they want a policy, I give them!”

 

You don’t say that out loud, do you? You say:

 

“The Adelsons are an important part of what we’re hoping to do, and no one has undue influence over me, but I’m happy to hear from them.”

 

He doesn’t do any of that. There’s no beating around the bush. He basically says:

 

“Jew’s got me in. And when they want a policy passing, I give it to them!”

 

I mean, is that refreshing to hear? For me, it is, because it confirms everything that we’ve always said.

 

Natty: Yeah, he is known for slurping up the “juju come”. As someone put in the chat earlier.

 

I think the worrying thing is, or I guess it’s not worrying. I mean, it’s interesting. So there was like just this ground swell of JQ awareness, like Israel hatred after October 7th because of what Israel was doing to Gaza.

 

And then the media gets to declare:

 

“There’s a ceasefire, Gaza’s over. We can look away now. We can look away from the fact that Israel has been bombing hospitals and stuff.”

 

Because of the nature of the news cycle and everything else, people let it drop. And then this big orange slave, jew slave, Trump, comes along and starts a war with Iran, like, totally on behalf of his jewish handlers in Israel. And all of a sudden it’s like:

 

“Oh, right, my awareness is shaking again.”

 

Like:

 

“Now there’s just another thing that’s like, cannot be ignored where we have to bring out this question again to the public and try and explain why this war for Israel isn’t anything to do with jews and is secretly about Russia.”

 

Or whatever else it is. You know, so, yeah, I mean, awareness, awareness rising!

 

Mark Collett: So we pretty much wrapped up a lot of the things we were going to talk about. And we’ve already said that Israel has been proven through this not to be invincible.

 

And I think that’s one of the key things here. At one point, Israel touted the Iron Dome. It touted their invincibility. I think this has shown something that’s very interesting. It’s highlighted that America is Israel’s lapdog! But it’s also highlighted that without America, Israel couldn’t exist. And that’s important, I think, for two reasons.

 

There’s this symbolic idea of Israel being this invincible outpost in the Middle East that the Iron Dome protects and they can stand alone if necessary. I think Israel have been really undermined here, not just from a moral perspective, but from the view that they can be hurt, which is important. You know, one of the big things, if you’re ever in some kind of conflict, facing what appears to be an immovable or unstoppable enemy, to show that that enemy is, in fact, fallible and can be hurt is very important.

 

And although we’ve hardly seen Israel sink into the Mediterranean, I do think the strikes on Israel have been significant from the point of view that it has shown them to be scared, that if they don’t have the West on their side, they can’t defend themselves.

 

Yuro: Well, it’s like with October 7th. When October 7th happened, it showed the world that they’re not all powerful, they’re not all knowing, they’re not always just gonna win because they’ve got everything on lockdown. Their power does have limits. And there’s some amount of White nationalists who come out and say:

 

“Oh, no, they let that happen1 You know, they let that happen on purpose! That they have a reason to do this.”

 

But actually, it’s like you’re unwilling to believe that they just screwed up that badly.

 

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[Remainder of Transcript in Progress]

 

 

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Mark Collett: Look, I’m not going to get into a big debate, but I actually believe they let that happen. I believe that that was part of their plan and gave them this imperative to do what they did in Gaza.

 

However, I think Iran’s a different kettle of fish. I think that what we’re seeing with Iran here is something fundamentally much more damaging for them, because they have nothing to gain by letting Iran smash through the Iron Dome. They have nothing that they can say:

 

“Well, this gives us the moral imperative to do X.”

 

Because in the case of Iran, they’ve already done X, haven’t they? X has already been committed to, it’s already been carried out.

 

So I think there’s different things here.

 

But look, let’s wrap this up and we’re going to wrap this up before we do the questions and answers. If anyone wants to Superchat. If you’ve enjoyed the stream, please consider sending a Superchat. But we’re going to wrap this up with, obviously we’ve said this is for the Greater Israel Project and we’ve talked about the political ramifications around the world for America, for Russia, for China, for future conflicts.

 

But one thing we haven’t talked about is the political ramifications here in Britain. Now, obviously Starmer hasn’t embroiled himself and he’s made the right choice in that case, but probably for the wrong reasons. Rather than doing this because he doesn’t want to serve Israel, he’s done this because he doesn’t want to turn the Muslim bloc vote against him any further because he fears losing the next general election.

 

But what we can see here, or what I see here, is a major problem with refugees and they’re talking about potentially two, … There was the, I think it was the Telegraph that stated this. The calculation is that 2.5 million people will be displaced from the region due to this conflict. At the present time, that number could obviously rise and they’re all going to be coming to Europe, they’re not going to be going to Israel.

 

And I’ve always described this as sort of the twin evils of Israel. On one hand, Israel menaces, murders, maims, terrorizes states in the Middle East for its own gain and to maintain dominance in the region. However, the blowback is never for Israel! The blowback of all this ends up hitting Western nations who take the refugees or the people that are displaced.

 

And I think that’s the final piece of the puzzle, that the Greater Israel Project makes Israel more powerful, but by extension due to the knock on effect, it weakens the West, it pushes us closer to a demographic shift that will be unrecoverable and fundamentally takes us a step nearer to being a minority in our ancestral homelands!

 

Natty: Yeah, destabilising its immediate neighbours, like I said earlier, destabilising its immediate neighbours with missiles and bombs and gayops and all the rest of it, is a short timescale. But destabilising European countries with mass immigration and kind of ethnic cleansing and all the rest of that, that’s still just destabilisation. It’s just on a longer time scale. And I alluded to this earlier, but the Israeli gayops and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 operation, well I mean it was the open British government was just aiding like terrorists in Libya, overthrowing Gaddafi. Gaddafi had an agreement with Italy where Italy would pay him to stop, just endless floods of migrants crossing the Mediterranean into Europe. And Israel uncaring that that was in place or seeing that actually destroying that was a good thing because it helped destabilise everything, not just Europe, but top to Libya, decided to enact you know, plans against Gaddafi that ended with him, like I said, with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street.

 

And that led to the migration crisis in 2015, 2014, 2015, which is ongoing today. And I just posted in the private chat there because I just looked this up, Morgoth’s Law, which was spoken by Morgoth himself:

 

“No matter where the conflict is in the world, the refugees coming to Europe will be fighting age black and brown men!”

 

And that’s going to hold true for this conflict.

 

Now that might be coincidental in other cases but certainly with Iran this is the double, not the double edged sword but like the win-win situation for Israel. They get to destabilise nations by direct war against their like direct competitors. But they also get to destabilise their so-called “allies” in terms of European nations in America with all these displaced people who then through their human rights groups and refugee groups and these kind of NGOs get to set up migration routes into the countries who are supposedly their allies that they help destabilise. The knock on for politics in this country, unfortunately there won’t be much because we don’t have much of a choice. And if Reform was in power at the moment it would probably be just balls out gung-ho for Israel. So what choice do you have in this country? I mean it’s probably less than anywhere else.

 

Mark Collett: I will say though, I think Yuro is right in what he said. Every day that Rupert Lowe spends not endorsing Israel is a victory from our point of view. You know, I know that might sound like a cucky thing to say, but it has been so long since we’ve had anybody in any form of position of genuine power who hasn’t immediately been a slave to Israel. And it’s one of the things that Tommy Robinson’s been quite upset actually by a number of things Rupert Lowe has said and done. I don’t know if you saw, but Tommy Robinson said:

 

“You know, Rupert Lowe needs to clarify whether black people can be British. Rupert Lowe needs to clarify his position on all these things!”

 

Well, I find that very interesting because that suggests that Tommy and his handlers are getting quite nervous that Rupert isn’t going to be the Zio lap dog they hoped he would.

 

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Natty: Yeah, the kind of the cucked civnat stuff that always bends towards this like piss-weak conservatism, as we’ve seen with Reform, where it just turns out they’re just as I mean they’re not really even civic nationalists, they’re just Conservatives in that anyone’s British, anyone who steps foot on this island is British.

 

So yeah, I mean funnily enough, Tommy wrote, those questions from Tommy Robinson he tried to put to Rupert Lowe:

 

“We’re in the wake of the Iran war starting and Rupert Lowe not coming out in support of Israel.”

 

And all of a sudden here you’ve got Tommy Robinson popping up like fresh from snorting up lines of coke on a mirror somewhere in America asking him about the same, well as pulling the same gay ops that he tried with the BNP all those years ago, which you know about very well, Mark.

 

Yuro: And after hopping off his private jet with his son, who’s posting about it on Instagram while he begs for money from poor White people who haven’t got a dime to scrape together.

 

Natty: Yeah, Tommy Robinson, just to reiterate, is absolute scum! He is scum! Everything out of Tommy Robinson’s mouth is like a jewish handler somewhere. And that has become more and more clear! There’s no like, no intersection of lines from real dissidency in this country in the West. And Tommy Robinson, this is like a literal jewish mouthpiece being paid by Israel to say the things he does.

 

And if you think there’s some part of Tommy that’s still good or some part of him that’s still worth listening to, then you simply haven’t been paying attention. And you need to, I don’t know, get with the programme or get your head right, because he’s evil, he’s terrible, and he’s a scumbag!

 

Mark Collett: I concur.

 

So I think we’ve had a pretty robust chat. We’re going to do the Superchats in a couple of seconds. If you want a Superchat, please do.

 

But I’ll say this, I think in conclusion. I’ve said this many times before, but the judeo-American empire is the greatest threat to the world!

 

Yuro: And I’ve said they are the great Satan!

 

Mark Collett: Well, it’s not just the greatest threat, is it to White people. Now we obviously are fundamentally our thoughts are for White people. That’s the most important thing for us, that we look after people of European descent.

 

However, it’s not just people of European descent that suffer under the judeo-American State. Obviously Arabs suffer immensely.

 

And a lot of the problems created by the judeo-American States, actions such as these unnecessary wars, these toppling of sovereign regimes, the murder of government leaders in foreign countries, like Colonel Gaddafi. And look, when we say this, we’re not saying that Colonel Gaddafi is our hero or that we loved everything he did, but he was stopping millions of people passing through his country and entering Europe. And I’m sure that when he was toppled, there were many people within the Israeli regime and many leading jews in America and Europe that were very happy that there was going to be even more migrants headed to Europe.

 

And I believe that the only real way that the world can achieve freedom is for the judeo-American Empire to fall. I don’t know whether you guys agree with that. Obviously have 30 seconds each to sum up, or a minute or whatever you need.

 

Natty: That’s totally correct! And that is the line of, like I said a second ago, real dissidency, and this kind of rightoid, Right-wing, edgy conservatism. Like you said, the judeo-American Empire is the threat, is the problem! And if you’re not willing to say that, if you’re not willing to like cheer on its losses, then you’re not on the same level as you should be. I mean, you’re not where you should be. And I’m sure everyone listening to this is pretty much there, but those are the lines. There’s not a Left, Right, divide. There’s not a third Worldist, whatever it is, divide. It’s just you’re either hoping for this evil entity to fail or you’re not at this point. But, and we’re seeing, hopefully we’re seeing part of it sailing here. We’re going to see it fail more and more.

 

So that’s what I’m looking forward to. Not just that, but the visceral feeling when you, like you said, see a cluster munition raining down on Tel Aviv, feels good too. So enjoy it.

 

Yuro: White people the world over shall not be free until organised jewry is disempowered! Inshallah!

 

Mark Collett: That [chuckling] was the most concise you’ve been all night mate. Superb!

 

So, yeah, I think it’s been a very productive stream this evening.

 

And I think we’ve talked about a lot of things that people would want us to talk about. And without being boastful, I think that tonight we’ve kind of hit on more or less every major point, unless we haven’t.

 

But I think we put a lot of effort, obviously into ensuring that we did hit every major talking point tonight. And this was the, probably, I’d say the most comprehensive coverage of this particular issue that anyone will get. So I’m hoping that you guys enjoyed it. And we are going to do the Superchats now.

 

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So thank you to everyone who has Superchatted. And if you haven’t, there is obviously still time. And remember, if you do send a financial contribution, it’s gratefully received because it’s what allows me to keep doing things like this and doing these streams.

 

Anyway, Mr. Skywalker gave $3. Thank you so much! And he said:

 

“You and Red Ice were definitely correct about ZOG’s superior tactical advantage, which I never doubted. Still Iran and its proxies and have fared better than expected. Landing hits on ZOG’s military assets.”

 

And he goes on with another $3 and said:

 

“It appears ZOG is carpet bombing civilian structures in Iran now, as many military bases and missile sites are up to a thousand feet below ground, very difficult to destroy. Do you think ZOG will use ICBMs?”

 

I think we’ve said that actually that fundamentally we are seeing probably a better sort of defense than people may have initially thought. However, obviously going up against the judeo-American empire is absolutely not an easy thing to do they are doing better than we thought.

 

And interestingly, the Americans are already resorting to these horrific tactics of bombing civilian structures. Do you think Trump would go as far as using an ICBM?

 

Natty: It’s possible. You know, who knows? At every juncture where you think Trump isn’t going to do something, you know, sometimes, well, quite often he will just go ahead and do it. The problem with nukes is, one that’s a line that if you cross has real implications. If you drop a nuke on a country just because you started a war and are then subsequently losing that war,

 

Yuro: If you started a war to stop them having nukes and then when you have lost you use them!

 

Natty: Yeah, it kind of undermines, it’s a massive red line. Like I said, probably implications that none of us even can think about at this stage.

 

The second thing is, nukes, for all this talk of tactical nukes, they’re a surface weapon. You detonate them above ground. So they don’t really, in this war against Iran, they don’t really have like a tactical purpose and they would only be used to destroy, like, surface, weak, soft civilian targets, like cities. I mean, nukes are designed to be used on cities that are all like massed troop build-ups, which Iran doesn’t have. So morally it would be reprehensible and tactically it’d be stupid. Although it would just, it would literally just be against civilians. To use them in this war would be like, against civilian targets.

 

Yuro: Yeah, it wouldn’t benefit them one bit. And there’s no way that Russia and China would not respond to it. And that’s not saying that they would launch nukes themselves, but there would have to be some kind of bigger response from them. To get more actively involved.

 

Mark Collett: And I think Natty hit the real point here. The only time nukes have ever been used are on civilian targets. They are not a weapon that is used really for military sites. There’s all this talk of:

 

“Oh, well, people have got tactical nukes now, and a tactical nuke does this and the fallout’s not as great.”

 

And we’ve heard all of these sort of takes before, but fundamentally the only proven use for a nuke is to be used against a civilian target. That’s just the way it is.

 

And I personally believe that if the Americans did this and took it down that route, it would be this fundamental turning point that I’m not sure the world could recover from that you know, it’s happened obviously twice before and it was horrific what the Americans did to the Japanese. But to do it now and for America to be doing it because they started the war and it wasn’t going their way, I think the world would change in a way that we probably couldn’t actually completely understand right now! But I don’t think it will go nuclear.

 

Thank you so much for the two Superchats, though. Ruins in a Landscape gave $50. Thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. Bay of Kings gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thanks, Mark. It appears Natty’s dropped out.”

 

One of his devices has come unconnected, it says on the screen. I’m sure he’ll be back. Arab Social Nationalist gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thoughts on the spectacle of the Nigerian leader of the opposition, Olukemi Olufuntu Adagoki Badenok and Farage arguing that Starmer hasn’t done enough for the Yanks. There is no opposition in the British establishment. Ignore a whisper of dissent in Parliament. War for jews unites the establishment.”

 

I think this is very interesting. And obviously Badenock and Farage are looking at what got Trump to power. Now, fundamentally, Farage and Badenok are both out of power at the moment and I think they’re both kissing up to Israel as much as they can, hoping that that will be their ticket to a Trump style run at Parliament. And let’s face it, although at the moment Farage is the favourite to win the next general election, that can all change. And he is looking at sort of shoring up his position. But Kemi Badenok is looking at going into a general election where she will be decimated.

 

So it is interesting to see both Badenoch and Farage fighting to see who can be the most philo-semitic on this particular issue.

 

But I’ll say this, and this isn’t meant to be like a cold way to leave the stream, or a black pill at the end or anything of the sort. But there are still an awful lot, and I call them Boomers because they generally are from that sort of age bracket. Now, it’s not to say all Boomers are evil, but there generally is this sort of Boomer mentality of:

 

“Well, bomb them all! Get rid of the Arabs! We need to support Israel! They’re our greatest ally!”

 

And that rhetoric does still appeal to, I would say, a sizable portion of the Boomer population.

 

Natty: Yeah, I agree. And because they don’t really want to think about it and the implications of it. So looks like:

 

“Oh, something else is going on. Well, to hell with them all! Just blow them all up! Bloody Arabs!”

 

And that’s a cultivated mentality. That’s not an accident that people say things like that and think things like that. This callous, cold, bloodthirsty, you know, mentality that’s been instilled in people through, I mean, basically like a real use of the term racism, where it’s:

 

“Yeah, Arabs are like dirty brown people and killing them anywhere is good!”

 

It’s like well, a normal human being, a moral human being doesn’t actually think that way. And if you’ve been led into thinking that some like, cartoon villain version of like, I don’t know, like a Western man, is ridiculous and retarded and immoral, and the people who put that idea in your head have taken a long time to do it, but have succeeded, if you come out making statements like that.

 

Yuro: And to the extent that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon, it’s as a result of having the Pakistani rape gangs that jewish people and organisations brought here and having the Sunni Wahhabi terrorists who are created by the funding of Saudi Arabia and Israel’s allies.

 

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Natty: Oh, yeah, when Israel needed a recruiting ground for ISIS to destabilise Syria, they just used our country. And the overspill where like little girls were getting blown up in concerts or people were getting stabbed on London Bridge, that was exceptional.

 

Yuro: It’s just a bonus to them.

 

Natty: Yeah, that was just like a little side project for them.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much, guys. We’ll go on to the next Superchat. It’s from Tomorrow’s Victims who gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“The vast majority of us here in Yank land do not want the stupid war. Cheers to all my UK people.”

 

Thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10. Thank you so much! And he subscribed for $10. Well, that’s much appreciated. Remember, you can subscribe to me over on Entropy and Rumble, and that means you make a monthly donation.

 

And obviously on Entropy you can subscribe for any amount and Rumble is fixed, $5. But on Rumble, we’ve got a good number of subs now, a good number of followers, and if we had sort of 4 or 500 subs, that would just be phenomenal! And obviously it would really help me financially and it wouldn’t really make a massive difference to people as $5 is what, the price of a large can of Red Bull these days. But if enough people did that, it’d make a huge difference to me.

 

We also have one Superchat over on Rumble, only one tonight, and it’s from Archie P007. Thank you so much! Okay, $5. And you said:

 

“I was all in with Trump, the great awakening and all that he has sold his soul for Israeli gold. No one wins a war, only the people suffer always. Follow the money. Trump is Israel first, it seems.”

 

Well, yeah, I mean, I obviously, I completely agree with that. Trump is Israel first. And Trump is someone who is absolutely committed to Israel, I think, in a way that I’m not sure we’ve ever seen before. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a president this committed to the state of Israel, which is obviously interesting in itself to say that, to say we’ve never had a president that is this committed to Israel, but he certainly is.

 

And at the moment, he is proving his loyalty to that nation to an unbelievable point! And whether this works for him in the long run or not, who knows? But I think it’s fair to say that he is risking everything for his loyalty to people who, …

 

And the interesting thing with these people is they did not support him when he was out in the wilderness. One of the interesting things with Trump is when he was saying:

 

“Look, the election was rigged.”

 

Netanyahu was actually the first foreign leader to say to Biden, to congratulate Biden on his victory. Can you remember that? I mean, Trump went mental about that at the time because he thought Netanyahu was his best friend. But it just goes to show, Trump isn’t actually. Well, he doesn’t actually have any principles whatsoever, does he? Trump is actually a guy that the Israelis can kick him, they can treat him like he’s their boy, their little dog. And when it comes down to it, he will take it time and again.

 

Natty: Yeah, I mean the only difference, just to add the only difference is how open it is now. I mean, like I said earlier, the other president have probably done everything to the detriment of their own people on behalf of Israel. But Trump is just open about it and everyone gets it and everyone knows now and he’s just still ploughing ahead with it. So there’s the difference with this one.

 

Mark Collett: Anything to add Yuro?

 

Yuro: No, no, I think we’ve covered most of that already.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well look, that brings us to the end of the stream.

 

Thank you so much to everyone who has been here and obviously if you haven’t Superchatted and you’re watching this on replay, you can donate anytime you like on replay.

 

And if you do support these streams, especially these long form discussions which take a reasonable amount of time to prepare and we put a lot of effort into, please do consider sending a Superchat and we will keep doing them. Anyway guys, if you want to say good night, we’ll go around the group and then we will wrap things up.

 

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Natty: Night guys. I have been looking at the chat and there’s been a lot of like pretty decent discussion in there. So I appreciate everyone who’s been here and you know, it’s good, it’s good getting all this down and talking about this because a lot of this stuff is beyond the kind of political divide that you see in this country between even nationalists who say things like:

 

“Oh, I don’t care about either side and they can kill each other!”

 

And that’s like the best you can hope for out of supposed Right-wingers and dissidents in this country. But I think a sober analysis and a sober talk about what it all means and what’s happening is worthwhile. So thanks to you two and thanks to the chat for turning up and I’ll see you around.

 

Yuro: Yeah, thanks for having me on. It’s been a good talk with both of you. Obviously we do get a bit of this chat going on with the A-Team, which I’m no longer going to be with because Sam’s back unless I’m a stand-in when someone’s away. But it was good to talk about this stuff. And maybe going forward I will get back into doing some sort of show again on my own. Maybe I’ll revive TASOB. Who knows?

 

Natty: Be very happy if you revived TASOB, buddy. So look forward to it.

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, thank you to both of you, it’s been a great chat. I just want to wrap things up by saying thank you to everybody.

 

Well, thank you first to Natty and Yuro for giving up their evenings. You know, obviously we enjoy doing this. We’re friends in real life and I think we’ve got pretty good chemistry and I think it’s been a pretty entertaining stream. I would also like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated. Remember, you can donate at any point you wish.

 

And finally, a massive thank you to everybody who tuned in. We had really good attendance night. Lots of people tuning in, lots of people enjoying the stream and a really sort of quick, moving, interesting discussion on both the Odysee and the Rumble chat.

 

So thank you to everyone who participated.

 

Anyway, I won’t be back on Sunday. It was unlikely I’ll be back on Sunday because it was my son’s birthday this week and we’re having a little party for him on Sunday. So that will likely be something that may run on and I don’t really want to be rushing through that to do a Sunday night film review or stream. I probably just want to enjoy just a little bit of family time, which I’m sure no one begrudges me. And I will be doing that.

 

Anyway, I’ll be back on Wednesday for Patriotic Weekly Review. Until then, thank you everybody, good night and look after yourselves.

 

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Mark Collett
9 days ago
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@RonP1
9 days ago
On YT comments, I’ve noticed more people seem to be realising that Kosher Tommy’s brand of Nationalism is fraudulent & serves no purpose to British people.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Like the English, the Iranians have no other country. Resistance is the only option.

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Aspect of Divinity
5 days ago
I pray to God that the Iranian people succeed in their war against the Zionists and their Western puppets

@RonP1
9 days ago
A safe rule: Never get into bed with the Jew

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
I have a cousin that married a Jewess. He is dead to me. I used to talk to his Mom frequently and she would complain how his wife basically ended Christmas in their family and how she’s rarely allowed to see her grandchild. I eventually told her “well what do you expect, he married a Jew”. She won’t talk to me anymore lol. My whole family is a bunch of sleepers, but that particular family is fuked. Her other son adopted a South Korean baby when he could have adopted a White baby. I’m done with that whole family.

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@RonP1
8 days ago
Not a good move, I guess people who are not race-conscious fall into this trap,
they probably believe ‘It’s just a religion’ and end up with an ugly contaminated baby

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
Especially someone who marries a Jew, not much you can do there, especially once kids are involved. Even if they subconsciously start to realize their mistake, not only will they never attribute it to the spouse being a Jew, but they are caught in a bind not easily remedied. Same with White people who adopt non-White kids. Dead to me. If there was any possibility to fixing them in the past, that possibility is long gone.

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@RonP1
8 days ago
Imagine working out their Holo story is BS, but having to go along with it for the rest of your life because the wife is Jewish! lol

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
I have my doubts my cousin would ever believe at any point that the holo story is a hoax. An old friend of my family also has a son who married a Jewess and from what I know about the 2 families, they are identical – the Jewess wears the pants, the family is Jewish to the core and Whiteness and Christianity has been stripped away. It’s pathetic.

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@Theos19
6 days ago
Sounds like jgew hollywood did its work well on that family bro, sorry to hear this. There is nothing more shameful for a white man than to have a mixed breed child. Adopting another child not of your race is one of the most cucked things you can do. Raising another mans offspring with resources that should be for your own – how f-cking cucked is that. Someone else fcked your girl and put a kid in her, and you are raising their kid LOL. I was in the queue for the checkout once and I got caught staring at a man with his yellow wife (fat b-tch) and his mixed breed freakish looking son, I was with my wife and son around the same age. I couldn’t help but stare, it was like looking at a crash at the side of the road, or someone freakish you know? The cashier had to call me out and ask if she could help. After he noticed me the guy looked crestfallen and his yellow wife didn’t have any respect for him whatsoever lol.

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Alice1488
8 days ago
I’m ashamed to admit that I started out as anti jihad, solely because of my job… I tried to rescue English girls from Pakistani Muslims who were mass raping torturing them, I did 20 years in my profession and saw the government as 100% anti White, anti English in every way. Mark et al helped me understand the truth!

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@Theos19
6 days ago
Were you a social worker? I recall some of your comments on live chats over the years, harrowing stuff. Thank you for trying to stand up to evil. God will recognize his own.

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Alice1488
6 days ago
Yes for 20 years! I did rescue many English girls, the youngest was age 8! The government is extremely anti White.

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@RonP1
9 days ago
Purim explained…
“One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth, is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther, and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King’s minister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said, did not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them. Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies were slaughtered, including Haman’s ten sons, who were hanged. This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony, intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called “Haman’s Ears,” revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew in our midst”
JRM by Arnold Leese

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
The Young Turks, Anna K and all that group are not “awakening”. They are still anti-White and that will never change. While Anna does have harsh words for Jews as well as Israel, she and TYT are still anti-White libtards. Please stop blowing a load in your shorts because you think she’s hot. It is, indeed, simp behavior and quite embarrassing for us all.
She is/They are ANTI-WHITE. Got it?
Covington was right. Being pro-White is something Whites have a really hard time doing, even those that are racially conscious.

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Judy_Izzum
8 days ago
anti-white or not, she is still the guest of honour at my hand party

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@RonP1
9 days ago
Civ Nat = Kosher Nationalism

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump comes from the jewish community. He has been around them his entire life. They made his career in realestate in New York. He has belonged to them his whole adult life.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Remember: these jews bombed Qatar to kill Hamas’s chief negotiator. They’re out of control, and they cannot be negotiated with.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s not that they don’t think about it: the British establishment is actively antagonistic towards native British people; it’s not indifference, it’s active malice.

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@noreplacement
9 days ago
Jews, Muslims, darkies in general. They all gotta go

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
Next false flag: Nuclear attack on USA, EU country or both. Could be an EMP nuke instead of ground attack.
Lots of dissent for this war on both sides of political aisle, they need something like a “9/11” to force more Westerners to support the war. Approval is falling hard. They need a false flag event. Also would “justify” nuking Iran.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
Shalom

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9 days ago
Excellent episode title. Spot-on. Thanks for your incredibly important work, Mark.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS HE SHITS HIMSELF AT THE BOMB SHELTER!

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
yes I know a jew was in charge of the Armenian genocide. And the fact that Armenians are Christians made it so much enjoyable for the jews.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Natty
I like that the left woke up to the jq but make no mistake they still hate white men. And want white genocide.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
The left did not “wake up to the Jewish question”. They still love and defend Jews. They do not see the Israel problem as a Jewish problem, they see it as a White Supremacy problem. I know it all sounds so contradictory and stupid, but that is what you get with a brainwashed group of people. They only oppose and support what they are told to, without thinking about it.

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Prison Ships
9 days ago
The Honourable Pastor Chuck Baldwin leads +40k AntiZionist Christians out of Liberty Fellowship Montana.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Tommy Robinson drives a Bentley, all while his rightoid followers pay for his “legal fund”.

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Alice1488
8 days ago
The likes are 101 and they need to be 109! Or 110, 111 etc

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Edelweiß
8 days ago
Unless Judeo-Christian civilization is destroyed, the European race will die. Crush Jehovah! Hail Jupiter and give us victory!

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Alice1488
8 days ago
We Whites must destroy the enemy race; they have relentlessly been attempted to destroy us for centuries! We Whites, of European descent must end this madness for the sake of all humanity.

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
it was a bit like watching the A-Team but without the game and gay dancing tbf

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Natty
9 days ago
night guys

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Cheers goyim \o

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@RonP1
9 days ago(edited)
Remember before the 2016 election when the bell end said he would re-investigate 9/11 if he ever got into power

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Ulrich22
9 days ago
most people dont have real opinion at all. they all hope that it goes away and they can forget about it like they did for the last 80 years or so.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Decades of Hollywood propaganda had a big part in it.

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@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Well done lads, I’ve learned a lot tonight

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Alice1488
8 days ago
Me too, watching on replay! My friends dog is healing well, and has thoroughly enjoyed the chicken , skin and stock .

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Imagine a future Britain that has normal relations with foreign countries. It’s not asking for much.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@MarkCollett
– Starmer SAYS he’s not getting involved, but as we know from Gaza, he can assist Israel secretly. Don’t be quick to believe his public stance.

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@Stryker!
9 days ago

@VesselofGrace
I may have to return to my roots. lol

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“Peace through perpetual war, goyim!”

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@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
No Iranian ever called me a goyim

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MarcoEire
9 days ago
I don’t like this new term “Epstein regime” it takes away from “ZOG”, which is much more poignant.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
“ZOG” deters from Jew though.

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Bronze Green Oakwood
5 days ago
“I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen”
That came out of nowhere, nearly spat out my drink there.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
“We tried the internet and spent years tapping to one another on keyboards, because we bought into the idea that ‘education’ was the answer, and if we could just get the truth to people, then things would change. Well, education without action isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit. We got the truth to people, all right, and it turned out to be nothing but a bunch of noise that was simply ignored, because the internet was where it stayed. Nobody ever did anything except tap on keyboards. Tapping on keyboards was no threat to them, we just let off steam and nothing changed. It is now crystal clear to any white man with two brain cells to rub together that the only thing that will make these dogs in power hear the word no is the sound of…”
Brigade

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They are banking on the Americanisation of British politics, and I think they’re miscalculating.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
You’re not as much in the wilderness as you think, Mark. It’s the Dissident right that has moved the mainstream to the Jewish Question.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
I wouldn’t lend a jew my lighter, much less die for him. Imagine it.

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MarcoEire
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
His father before him was the exact same.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Iran, in principle, doesn’t want to be anyone’s vassal. They want mutually beneficial relationships, not to be a junior partner.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
This relationship with Russia is new. Historically, Iran didn’t have options for buying a new airforce, plus they’re fixated on developing their own capabilities.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The jew stands atop a pile of dead children and declares “AND WHAT, GOY?”

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The strength of the jew is that he is bold, and he is willing to shock the enemy with acts of depravity that are unthinkable for normal people.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
There’s no nobility in Western leadership anymore. These decrepit democracies have allowed the lowest filth of society to take power. Good men, sound men, competent men, are locked out of power.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
You can’t be pro-White and drive wedges between Western countries the way Trump does. He’s a diplomatic vandal.

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@why
9 days ago
lol.. its a fun song

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@Germanicus
9 days ago
Purimfest 2026, that’s what I’m calling it

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@noreplacement
9 days ago
Howdy good folk

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Natty
9 days ago
howdy troops

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@Stryker!
9 days ago
Lana Loktef or Anna K….choose one

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
Dumb question on a channel like this. Anna K is a commie leftist no matter what her views
are on Israel and even Jews. She still believes Whites are evil. She is Anti-White! Lana, on the other hand, it 100% OUR PEOPLE. So, again, dumb question.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re White enough, for goodness sake.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
I generally like your comments, but as semite you’re non-White thus you have no place defining who is and is not “White”. That is OUR turf. Respect the boundaries (pun intended).

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@why
9 days ago
jews rock

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@why
9 days ago
I LOVE JEWS

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@why
9 days ago
bruh jews rock

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@why
9 days ago
wtf

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@why
9 days ago
jews behind it all????

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@why
9 days ago
gubbermints

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@why
9 days ago
bayonet up the bum is gonna feel like a good option

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Truth hurts
9 days ago(edited)
This comment was slimed to death. (Click to view)

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– 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 –
8 days ago
Maybe not all you Jews are paedophiles, but enough are that we can make these generalizations.

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9 days ago

@Aunt-Sally
brutal

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
o/

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
maybe switch every episode between players so all can play?

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
good night volks

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@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
o/

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
That seems like an age ago

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Boomers-of-the-soul, I call them. And they are mostly evil. It’s okay to say so.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump is capable of going nut and ordering a nuclear strike. He kept asking about it during his first term, apparently.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
I believe nuclear false flag first on USA, EU or bother, then they blame Iran and will nuke Iran.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
hahaha

Truth hurts
9 days ago(edited)
As far as the ” Greater Israel ” is concerned, Israel has every right to annexe terriories from Judea and Samaria,not because of ” biblical rights ” but because ever since Israel was created has faced constant aggressive wars from its neighbours..
When an aggresor wages a war and looses he has to pay a price.
Palestinians had many chances to create their own state yet they rejected everyone.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
“ever since Israel was created”
The creation of Israel was itself the original massive aggression which initiated all the interminable ongoing wars and unrest.
“Palestinians had many chances to create their own state”
The Zionists would never allow any viable, truly independent Palestinian state to arise. Such an option has never been on the negotiating table. The Zionist maximalists were determined to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestine begun with the Nakba right from the beginning. Such hardliners have been openly running Israeli governments since Likud was first elected in 1977, and even before that exercised power from behind the scenes. For example, the creation of the Israeli nuclear weapon capability led by Shimon Perez at the behest of Ben Gurion; and the hardliner initiation of the 1967 Six Day War to take control of the West Bank and Golan Heights.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
So you think that when Israel was created in 1948 ,by concetration camps survivors and a few others and was attacked by 5 Arab countries ,it was able to conduct an aggressive war.Ok

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Truth hurts
9 days ago
So you guys think that if Israel is destroyed, UK and USA will be safer with the goat loving Agiadolahs, who beleive martyrdom and the 72 virgins ,being in charge of Iran’s nuclear arsenal.
That’s fine.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
The only reason Muslims pose even the slightest threat to the US or UK is because Jewish-led elites have mass imported them into the US and UK as part of their Great Replacement. The Great Replacement is the Jewish master strategy for stealing White nations from their people. It is not merely Muslims being mass imported. It is infinity non-Whites, both Muslim and non-Muslim.
Jewish supremacism is the fundamental problem, never part of the solution.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
Wow .I didnt know that the Pakistanis and the Somalians are in the UK because of Israel. Thank you for letting me know.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
Pakistanis and other immivaders are in the UK because of powerful British Jews and the treasonous elites like Tony Blair who are allied with them. Jewish supremacism includes but is very far from being limited to Zionism.

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Truth hurts
7 days ago
Blair brought the Pakistanis
ok.

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@W_Poe_White
7 days ago
You really are clueless about history. There were some Pakistanis in Britain before Blair but it was Blair’s New Labor government which opened the floodgates to mass non-White immigration into the UK. I recall reading an article by Keith Woods a few years ago about this. He quoted statistics.

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TDOF
5 days ago
Read:
https://archive.org/details/the-death-of-fragility-2nd-edition_202507

@ゼロHope
6 days ago
1:37:25
It is far more accurate to say Trump is saying, do as a I say and i’ll shot. There is no out option for Iran. It’s like “shame they won’t come to the table” but also Unconditional surrender, and we blew up the table and the guy negotiating with us.
There is nothing to negotiate. This is like the last time we attacked Iran, Trump started with the negotiating position of, “bomb yourself.” What is there to even to discuss? Especially after killing the pope-king of shia islam. You can’t simply do that, declare victory and leave. Everything of value with in striking distance, Iran will strike. They have choice, they couldn’t surrender if they wanted to.

Kevin
6 days ago
Ben Gavir currently in hospital and his house burning. so yes, we have seen such attacks

Kevin
6 days ago
they did hit one of the carriers with a drone, but they moved them too far away. why dont you know anything about what you are trying to talk about?

Kevin
6 days ago
Russia can’t produce infinite airplanes! come on! they don’t even have enough planes for their own war

Kevin
6 days ago
Russia is helping and Russia has made many public statements, they are just not covered. before the whole thing started every day Russia was sending plane after plane of weapons to them. Russia also spoke to Trump today and seems to have warned him they won’t let the US topple the government. right after Trump started talking about backing out.

@Kubatism
8 days ago
You are probably right, but the Venezuelan stuff also points to a broader context not discussed here – the China future war. All Chinese allies: Russia (bogged down in Ukraine), Venezuela (oil), Iran (supports Russian war effort and oil) you’ve got South Africa next (the current Afrikaner emigration policy of US, Ramaphosa humiliated) you’ve got only Brazil and India left – and India won’t help China

Alice1488
8 days ago
I love listening to Mark, Natty and Yuro! Actually real information about what’s going on! I pray that Isreal is nuked!

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
ALOHA SNACKBAR

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Warren Balogh is the master of this line of thinking

@Natty

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
The Colonel’s Fried Chicken was the best

0KT0BER
9 days ago
https://rocketreach.co/orla-minihane-email_748059991

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
DIdn’t he mention Ian Wright in particular?

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
In British politics, crumbs from politicians feel like a slap up meal, alas.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
That agreement still has legal force in Libya, if the EU decides to keep up their part.

@vengeance
9 days ago
i dont though

@vengeance
9 days ago
dawson agrees with you mark

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I think every leader will get assassinated that are against jews. Remember that Austrian far right prime minister that was killed in a strange car crash?

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
Jörg Haider, killed in a car crash in 2008 while leading the polls in elections to the Austrian parliament.
“[Haider] was Governor of Carinthia on two occasions, the long-time leader of the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ) and later Chairman of the Alliance for the Future of Austria (Bündnis Zukunft Österreich, BZÖ), a breakaway party from the FPÖ….. Haider died in a car accident shortly after leading the BZÖ in the 2008 Austrian parliamentary elections.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s because he’s thick, Mark. It’s as simple as that.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yes Trump’s crass vulgarity and his lack of discretion and restraint have helped a lot.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
*more

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Lowe is a tory of the soul, and he’s on a journey. Perhaps he will do it.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
This stream is the funniest :joy:

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
kek

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re not National Socialists, but they don’t need to be.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
We crank anti-semites are vindicated. Years of naming them, against the protests of pearl-clutching rightoids is bearing fruit. Enjoy the compliment.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago

@utopia148800
the donmeh Turks were jews

Natty
9 days ago

@utopia148800
i get it, shes right now though

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
kek

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It’s like a British person working for an Indian as a servant.

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9 days ago

@Natty
Yeah but working for people who genocided you shows a lack of self respect.

Natty
9 days ago

@utopia148800
everyone comes from somewhere buddy

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Come on Mark an Armenian woman working for Turks? I like people with self respect.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
She wants to be careful though. Sometimes, she’s seconds from throwing Romans.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
hahaha

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
NO HE IS GREEN!!!

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
She is Armenian

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
MAGA or MIGA

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Tucker is a very naughty goy. He might end up having some sort of accident.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Tucker was recently denounced by Trum and kicked out of the “MAGA” movement.

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
The Iranians have developed small submarines that are essentially underwater “drones” with which they can target American ships. It’s not just missiles that are a threat to Americans.

@Stryker!
9 days ago
Had a boomer tell me yesterday: “thank g-d trump bombed Iran. My grandbabbies are safe” hhhhWuuuuut???

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
My beloved Ana. Watching her journey has been terrific.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
+his jewish mentor

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yep

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lots of Russian cargo planes delivered something to Iran

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
We don’t know because help would certainly not go through official channels. Who knows how much Russian aid actually is.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“You have the clock, but we have the time” – Some Ayatollah.

@bagelsandloxism
9 days ago
they have hypersonic Iran is an advanced country

@vengeance
9 days ago
there are no more missles. they cant be made any faster.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lawnmowers of mass destruction

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
they say 80%

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
then the party starts

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yeah they’ve used the old stock to drain the AD systems. The good stuff is yet to come, when the jews run out of American interceptors

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
I hope they wait for the interceptors to be used up first

@vengeance
9 days ago
death, death

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
lol

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lol

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
or Mario

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Iran has no allies only jew controlled enemies.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s becoming impossible for Iranian moderates to argue against getting the nuclear bomb.

Ulrich22
9 days ago
they suck

Ulrich22
9 days ago
lol russia cant do shit

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It didn’t help Syria

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Sanctions – and historic Russian reluctance to sell them jets

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
because that costs a ton of money

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
I’m sure that fatwa still stands now that he’s dead.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Iran has this hyper-fixation on self-sufficiency. It’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
China will look at this shitshow and conclude that they’ll defeat the Americans if they attempt to stop unification with Taiwan.

Ulrich22
9 days ago
russia and the US suck

Ulrich22
9 days ago
endless whataboutism

@noreplacement
9 days ago
The heat pumps are good for some things. But not homes and DHW

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Heat pumps are noisy and do not get hot enough. We have one

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Winter in Europe will get interesting

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
110%

@Natty

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
can you imagine making love to jigsaw

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
imagine the smell…

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
I wonder what his reaction was when he first saw her knob?

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
yuck.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Nihil sub sōle novum, governments have been doing this since the dawn of time since the first peasant revolts.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
he needed to attack before the midterms

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump is in constant touch with Laura Loomer, and he thinks that she is connected to the base and he listens to her jewish lies.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Franco,

@MarkCollett
Let’s not forget Franco. He lasted till the 70s.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@utopia148800
Doing that might be the point of no return.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
it depends how much murder the government is willing to commit and I think they will just start mass killing people.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
The Peace President

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Of course, everything was done on purpose, I wouldn’t be surprised if they said that the girls read Mein Kampf.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They could topple the regime. The monarchy is despised.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Murdoch Murdoch episode with the Trump train lol

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9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
LOL!

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Andrew Neill looks like a clump of haemorrhoids

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
gross

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
HAHAHAHAHA

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They think they can make the state collapse, which means that they refuse to believe that Iran is a real, capable country. This tendency to underestimate and insult the enemy could be their undoing. They did the same with Yemen. They couldn’t understand the resilience of the Yemenis.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
shows the power of PR and sticking to the script

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
they wanted to hit the girls school

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago

@utopia148800
yes!

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@why
who is that aimed at?

Natty
9 days ago

@why
do we?

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
I don’t know it’s all the same fake terrorist org working for israel

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
We’ve been assured they do “surgical strikes” for decades. Either they can, or they can’t – or they won’t. It’s clearly deliberate.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
“Iran military says Strait of Hormuz remains open, but any US, Israeli ship will be targeted” lol

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9 days ago

@why
9 days ago
yet you support faggots who want to blame women and hitler — like keith woods and nativist

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
isis k

@utopia148800

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
You guys remember when a jew was screaming at a Russia Today reporter that Russia will pay for supporting Iran than a few months later a giant ISIS terrorist attack was launched at a Russian Mall?

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
they did the legal games with the German soldiers after the war, too. Instead of POW, called them Disarmed Enemy Forces. To circumvent the Geneva conventions.

0KT0BER
9 days ago
Terror Cimbricus

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
I don’t think America actually has allies, but I think you hinted at that

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
always, because America is controlled by jews so they essentially act as jews.

@teja
9 days ago
Trump Judenknecht!

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yes America does betray its “allies”.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
no people just have short memories, When Bush senior told the Shias to rebel against Saddam and America will help them than when they revolted Saddam brutally massacred them and America refused to help.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
I’m waiting for the sequel to USS Liberty

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Right.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
It’s obvious now why Trump kidnapped and took over Venezuala. Oil

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump, with his bad-faith fake negotiations has changed America’s international standing forever. Who on earth would do a deal with them now? He’s a diplomatic arsonist. Look what he’s done to Canada.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Epstein clique works too

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
They are using the term regime since Saddam

@why
9 days ago
what are we talking about guys?

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
And I imagine there no advisors around Trump who are willing to tell him things he doesn’t want to hear.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump hates nuance, and complexity, and he wants reality to match his simplistic hopes. He wants this to be easy, and he cannot accept that it isn’t easy at all.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
or, or, jews being stoned.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@why
hahah jews don’t think so. That’s why they had Sam Hyde fired.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re targeting the organs of the state: police stations, hospitals, etc.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
Every Single Time

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Yes, it’s amazing how they managed to conquer all those countries one by one.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They are the government. The capital is theirs, and they act as the state.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I mean what do you except? Tommy is an ex convict and a petty criminal and fraudster. And He claims he is jewish.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
he went full jew slave. Bet he is circumcised too like a good slave.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
Trump went full retard

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Chief_Moody
Hi Chief. I understand why people follow Tommy Robinson, jews are putting tens of millions of Pounds behind him and he has a large organization and social media boost. Essentially he has hundreds of liars on the payroll.

Chief Moody
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
That is true. lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@Chief_Moody
Tommy’s been on a coke bender since October 7. I’m not sure he’s slept for three years.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Albert Einstein wrote a letter to Roosevelt imploring him to use nuclear weapons against Germany but the letter sat on Roosevelt’s desk because Roosevelt has died overnight.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Andinia Plan

Chief Moody
9 days ago
Tommy Robinson and co have been very ghoulish over Iran. How people still support them, I’ll never understand.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The Israelis are colonising Patagonia right now.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Japan had already offered surrender 3 times. They still nuked ’em

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s real, Natty. Israeli journalists are happy to talk about it.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s real. They talk about it in Hebrew media.

Chief Moody
9 days ago
It’s very blatant what Israel are doing with Iran. It’s shameless at this point.

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
Being desribed as America’s streetwalker is like getting pimped out by a literal whore

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
Well that actually happens once an opportunistic whore ages – she becomes a pimp.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Well, there is no planning for this war. The war aims change hour to hour, and Iraq was extremely well-organised.

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
It’s always demoralizing to see conservative patriots in America viewing our country’s greatest ambition as being Israel’s bitch

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Yeah they just don’t care. What will the goyim do? Nothing.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“The Dossier”. At least they had that.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
Farage has been absolutely hysterical over this. “We have angered the Americans!”

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
9-11 made the anti-war position more difficult back then.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
Not me. The state of most young fatties, they won’t even make it to a hospice

MarcoEire
9 days ago
Has anyone else seen Asmongolds blatant warmongering?

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Once the Bush administration got away with lying about Sadam and terrorism ties and a complete fabrication of weapons of mass destruction, it was GAME OVER for government accountability.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Boomers using their final breaths to comment from their hospice beds.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Plenty of young folk think that way too sadly

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
100%. GenX is largely Boomer 2.0

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The Bahraini government is illegitimate, and delusional. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government falls during this conflict. The Bahraini people stand with Iran, by and large.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@noreplacement
There was a Yemeni calling in to a Bahrain TV show and the Bahrain TV host said there is no war in Bahrain

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
Bibi WhataYahoo

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Netanyahu has such contempt for the goyim. The fact that he thinks Americans are stupid is becoming very obvious. A rational person wouldn’t buy a used car from him.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@noreplacement
The israelis and the the jew controlled countries hiding a damage.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@utopia148800
that’s what I meant ha ha

MarcoEire
9 days ago
All true, I wish we weren’t inundated with ai slop of Tel Aviv

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
jews and degenerates; European America is in the past.

Natty
9 days ago

@noreplacement
it only looks that way

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
The absolute state of the USA…

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Winged Lawnmowers from Hell

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I just want to see Tel Aviv flattened.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
It is difficult to find any Iranian fight back video. It all looks one way success for the Epstein coalition

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The UAE is cracking down on videos; Bahrain has banned street gatherings; the jews are cracking down on footage of Tel Aviv. The true extent of this madness won’t be cleat until the dust – or sand – settles.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s hard to be circumspect, but it’s best to be cautious and not get one’s hopes up.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Aunt-Sally
haha you do it than.

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Yuro needs a wedgie tbh

MarcoEire
9 days ago
PURIM FEST 26

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Evening volks!

MarcoEire
9 days ago
Excellent Germanicus

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It’s karma for Mark being very mean to Sam last stream!

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
Greetings fellow Social Nationalists

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
\o

Esau rising
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
o/

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Natty

Natty
9 days ago
thats good lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Greetings war-weary goyim.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
o/

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Epstein regime

@vengeance
9 days ago
o/

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to tonight’s special stream. We are live tonight on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. Please do share the links because we’ve got a very special guest here tonight that I’ll be introducing shortly. It is of course, Germar Rudolf. And before we do that, I’m going to give you a couple of updates.

 

Now, as I said, this is a very important stream. It’s because we’re introducing a special event that Germar Rudolf is hosting called, The Holocaust Summit. And this event is something that hopefully will be very big. And this is basically a bit of an advert for the event, a bit of a discussion about how it came about, but also a discussion about who’s trying to stop it!

 

So we’re going to go through all those things and many more tonight and at the end you’ll have a chance to ask questions.

 

Now, if you support my work, if you like what I do, please share the stream.

 

But also if you support my work and like what I do, you can give a donation, you can donate through Rumble, you can donate through Entropy. Anything donated throughout the show will be read out live on the show and any questions will be put directly to Germar Rudolf.

 

So if you ask me a question or pay for a question via a Superchat, I will read it out after the initial presentation and we will answer your questions. All donations are gratefully received. And as I always say, if everyone gave a small amount, $3, $5, $10, that would make a great, great difference. Some of my streams in the past few months have been seen by upwards of 75,000 people. Imagine if everyone had just given $3, what we would be able to do with that money would be almost limitless at that point. But everyone would barely notice that money leaving their account because it’s probably the price of an energy drink, probably less than a coffee house coffee, certainly less than the price of a McDonald’s double cheeseburger these days.

 

So if you can afford something, please do consider donating. You can also donate by crypto-currency. All the crypto links, as always, are in the description below and you can email me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. And many of you will be saying:

 

“Well, how can I get in touch with Germar?”

 

And this is obviously all about Germar. You can get in touch with Germar via the Show Notes. The Show Notes have the link to his website about this very event. So you can find him there. You can also find him on Telegram.

 

So thank you so much to anyone who does donate in advance. And please do consider supporting Germar’s event, because that’s what this is all about.

 

Now, obviously, Germar is the special guest here tonight, and I did a special show with him a while back. It was an excellent show, and his ability to present his evidence and to tell his story is almost unrivalled! I couldn’t believe it! I asked one question and Germar sort of spoke very eloquently for about 58 minutes, at which point we went to Questions and Answers. It was sort of the least work I had to do ever in a show! I didn’t need to interrupt. I didn’t need to ask him any additional questions. He just has this skill of being able to tell his story in a timely way and weave it all together almost perfectly in the allotted space that we had on the show. And after doing that show with him, I was sort of really happy with the way it turned out. I was really happy with the reception, Germar got from my audience, and I really did want to have him back on.

 

So when he contacted me and told me he was doing this conference, this Summit, I was very happy to promote it. And I asked him:

 

“So, hey, sort of, what can I do to help you?”

 

He said:

 

“Well I could always come on the show.”

 

So I thought:

 

“Well, what better way to push this event than invite him back on and spend sort of 45 minutes to an hour talking to him about this event and also just having a general catch up.”

 

Because the last show, as I said, it was so good and everyone appreciated it so much. I did want to get him back on eventually anyway, so this is a perfect time.

 

Germar, you have been a very busy man since we last spoke. How have you been? And what sort of led up to you wanting to do this event? Because you have an excellent website, you have a number of really good books, you’ve been busy with other content creators. I know that you went on Unity News Network and you’ve had sort of a little flurry of appearances, but if you want to get people up to date with what you’ve been up to and when, what sort of inspired you to decide to put on this conference, please tell us all about it.

 

[04:45]

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah, well, thank you.

 

First of all, thank you for having me on the show again. A short remark. If people want to get in touch with me personally, learn more about me, how they can support me if they are so inclined, the easy way is just go to my personal website, which is Germarrudolf.com. So you see my name there on the screen. Just put this together without a blank and a dot com at the end, and you’re on my personal website and you can browse it there.

 

Now, as to what I’ve been up to over the past year, the main work that I’ve been focusing on was getting the Holocaust Encyclopedia, the English edition of which had appeared in late 2023, out in several other languages. The Spanish and French are out. The Spanish came out in I think it was maybe of last year. And the French we got out, I think it was in November. So we are up now to four languages. English, German, which was done by a different company. It was not in my ballpark. But the French and the Spanish edition, and that’s a lot of work. I mean, writing an encyclopedia is one thing, then AI helps you translate. But at the end you have to walk through it. My Spanish and French is good enough. I could do most of the proofing and editing myself. And then came the big one that we’re preparing right now! It’s an Arabic edition.

 

So that’s like proofing a pot full of spaghetti, because that’s how that language looks like to me. [chuckling] No clue about it! But I have professionals working on it.

 

And so this is making good progress and hopefully within a few months that will hit the mark and we’ll see how that’s going to be received. What kind of ripples that we’ll have, if any. So that’s on that side.

 

Now coming to the actual event for which we have come together today. Holocaust sceptics have been organising conferences since the late 1970s. And the early, …

 

Mark Collett: Okay, I just ask a quick question before you go into this?

 

You mentioned that the books are available in French and Spanish, but aren’t the Holocaust sort of revisionism laws or laws and against revisionist literature in France?

 

Germar Rudolf: So what?

 

Mark Collett: I was just asking about sort of the legality of the sales. Really, I was just, … What you might have to overcome in that case.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yes, if I have the intention to abide by unjust and illegitimate laws that violate United Nations Charter of Human Rights, I wouldn’t have gotten into the topic to begin with. So I don’t give a rat’s arse about any dictatorship passing laws, prescribing the writing of history at government gunpoints. This is something that doesn’t go down well with me.

 

Now, when it comes to printing and publishing the book, that’s an international network and I’m not going to expose here or reveal here what kind of logistics we use. But it basically gets lost in the massive mail stream that goes into and out of every country every day. So we haven’t had any interference, be it getting literature, English literature, or French, also to Canada, to France, to, … You name the countries. If we had them by the bag or by the truck load going into the country that would be selectively subject to border controls, that would be a problem.

 

But it’s just going individual for every customer into the mail stream. And this just gets lost in the shuffle. So we haven’t encountered any problems yet. So knocking on wood. Fingers crossed. I hope I’m not going to jinx it now.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I was just interested about the logistics of these things because there are draconian laws and I think what you’re doing is obviously very brave. And that answer of you’re not going to allow unjust laws to stop you. I think you’re a very courageous man. So sorry for the interjection. Please, please continue.

 

Germar Rudolf: That’s quite all right. So back in 1976, the first really scholarly book of Holocaust scepticism was published. That was Arthur Butz’s hoax of the 20th century. The first edition of which actually was published by Historical Review Press, kind of a small outlet that was established on occasion of that book appearing down in Brighton by Tony Hancock in the UK, even though the author, of course, is in the United States. That was the launching pad of people getting interested into Holocaust scepticism seriously, but also realizing that this is a serious School of thought that has to be reckoned with. And it led to the formation of the Institute for Historical Review in California. And they did have first conference was in 78 or 79 [1979], I can’t remember, I think it was in 79.*

 

 

[* See: The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention-Instauration Dec, 1979

https://katana17.com/2016/09/27/the-worlds-first-anti-holocaust-convention-instauration-dec-1979/.

[In this article, written for the Dec. 1979 edition of the revisionist journal,  Instauration, an interesting account is given of the first ever, “Anti-Holocaust” convention,  with speakers including:  Robert Faurisson from France; John Bennett from Australia; Udo Walendy from Germany; Louis FitzGibbon from Britain; Arthur Butz and James Martin from the US. This was held in Los Angeles and organised by the Institute for Historical Review  —  KATANA.]

 

And they had had subsequently, over the next two decades, conferences almost on a yearly basis, with a few exceptions. And unfortunately they had some internal strife in the mid-1990s, a kind of a schism there that led to internal fighting, unfortunately. That’s something that occurs on occasion. And that led to the whole School of thought and the Institute losing steam. And eventually those conferences petered out in the early 2000s.

 

And there hasn’t been any for the better part of 20 years now. And now I myself participated, since the first conference I attended was in 2000, I think so participated in the last few that happened, until I got arrested and deported back in 2005 and had a hiatus of six years in Germany, well, 44 months of them, full board at government expense. And after I came back to the United States a little bit shell shocked, got my feet wet slowly and eventually got back into the race.

 

But my family situation, I was married to a US citizen and we had a baby. And of course I was deported right out of this family. And she had to raise her daughter the first six years almost by herself. And so she was more traumatized by that event of government persecution. It was eventually decided that they deported me in violation of US law, and I had to litigate but eventually succeeded and came back. And now here I am in the United States, relatively safe from European style thought crime prosecution.

 

But my wife wasn’t happy in me continuing this kind of work, fearing that it would have another negative impact down the road for the family, not just for me.

 

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So we had an agreement that I could continue my work privately but keep my head down and limit or try to not even at all have any public exposure. That also means I couldn’t do any conferences. I was approached during those years starting 2014, 15, something, that a conference should be held again and I would have been the person to go to with my connections, with my involvement in the various organisations and with my track record of productivity. But I waved it off. I couldn’t have pulled it off logistically back then.

 

A physical conference requires a lot of work of getting the venue, organising food and accommodation for all the people that want to attend and of course for the presenters themselves. And the costs, the overhead costs could be daunting! And it’s not clear that at the end you actually walk away with profit more likely not. Most of all because you always have to have a “Plan B”. The traditional enemies of free speech and freedom of assembly in the past have always tried to shut down events like that. And they most certainly continue doing this to this day. Not just when it comes to Holocaust scepticism, but anything that is considered Right-wing, whatever that be. Even though Holocaust scepticism is neither Right nor Left. It’s about accuracy in history. But it is something that finds interest in the Right-wing spectrum of the political spectrum more prominently than in Left-wing circles or libertarian for that matter.

 

Be that as it may, you have to have a Plan B, a second venue, in case the first bails out under pressure of the usual suspects, you have to quickly be able to switch over. So you always have to pay kind of for both. And if your contracts are not written right, you start paying through the nose. With all these challenges, I said I can’t do it, apart from the agreement I had with my wife.

 

Now Covid hit. With all the negative things there is one upside to Covid and that is that in the meantime everyone is used to and technically capable of attending virtual conferences.

 

So the kind of discussion we have now with a lot of people watching, we can have 10 people discussing something and 10 million people watching. It has become so common due to Covid that this is something that can now be pulled off. The platforms are there are plenty of them and the overhead costs are reduced. People have the software, have the gadgets to participate, to watch it. And they used to it. Particularly the new generation is very comfortable that kind of technology.

 

So last summer a friend and supporter of mine, actually a pair of sisters, approached me and said we need to do something with Gaza brewing there’s an opportunity opening with people opening their mind that who see that the Zionists and the jewish Israelis to a large degree, not all of them, are pushing and committing genocide. The United Nations Commission has officially recognised Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza with the justification that they have to pre-emptively wipe out the Gazans in order to prevent them from committing another holocaust against the jews.

 

So the Holocaust is used as a political weapon to commit mass atrocities, to commit a genocide. That has made people realise that the agendas and the historical narrative pushed by Zionists and it’s not just jewish Zionists, I always say there are more Christian Zionists in the world than they are jewish Zionists, is recognised by people as being illegitimate, as being driven by a Holocaust narrative that is misused for these ends. And they see how the narrative about what happened on October 7th back in when was that? 2023, right? So long ago already, wasn’t quite accurate what Zionist sources told about it either. So there is the distortion and misuse of history for political purposes.

 

And then people are willing with their open mind:

 

“Wait, what’s going on here?”

 

To look back in history and see other cases and then the to look at the big elephant in the room when it comes to historical narratives. And that’s the Holocaust used by pressure groups, not just jewish, not just Zionist ones, to push their agendas.

 

With that said, I couldn’t really bail out anymore. Unfortunately I had gone through a divorce in the meantime. And so my a home still agreement with my no ex-wife was no excuse anymore, that had evaporated. So my family situation also most of my children are now grown up and they’re out of the home. There’s only one left who needs a little bit more of tender loving care still.

 

So that argument is gone. The logistical nightmare of doing physical conferences doesn’t exist when you do a virtual one. And I had agreed:

 

“Okay, let’s do it!”

 

The sisters actually suggested a name, Holocaust Summit.

 

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So I went online and looked whether the domain name is still there was. HolocaustSummit.com was available. I instantly reserved it and we started contacting people who would be willing to present it. Now the website is up. If we can share that screen with the audience. I’d like to go through a number of things we’ve put up there.

 

So as I mentioned, anyone can go there. Holocaust Summit.com, and it is organised and sponsored by a number of organisations. I’ve actually created a Holocaust Academy roughly a year ago, which I plan on and in the process of developing as a platform to teach sound Holocaust historiography to whoever wants to listen to give an accurate and holistic picture of the evidentiary situation when it comes to this event.

 

One of the first things that we’re now doing as the academy, major things we have already given private lessons, but the website itself is currently under development. So having a curriculum of a college style is somewhat daunting. But I’m working together with a retired Professor of humanities to get this going. And sometime later this year we will have that flying. But it will come now into the open as the organisation that will officially host the Holocaust Summit. So we are going to be independent, we’re going to be fearless, because unfortunately in this area you have to be! And we are not going to be censored if we can help it. And we’re not going to be constrained by politically correct taboos of thinking and asking questions and looking for answers.

 

So we’ll be tackling the most harmful ideology, undermining peace, truth and freedom world-wide. Because the Holocaust is used to trigger wars and genocides. That is used to enact censorship laws that suppress the search, the sharing of truth, and thus is used as a starting point for government to increase censorship measures. It’s easy to get a quote, unquote, “anti-Holocaust denial” law through Parliament.

 

And once the first fortress of freedom has fallen, then censorship like a cancer grows. And we see that in every country in the UK. You know it for yourself, what’s going on in your country. It used to be a stronghold of freedom of speech until they passed the new., … What was in 2002, I think the Public Communications Act. And now it’s completely escalating with the constraints they put on it.

 

So we need to be aware that the Holocaust is at the centre of the orthodox Holocaust narrative and its abuse, its misuse for political purposes, is at the centre of the problem of deteriorating freedom world-wide, or at least in the Western hemisphere.

 

Now we have picked the 27th of January, which, what is today, the 20th? I’m getting flustered here. Third. It’s already the 23rd, so it’s just in four days and next Tuesday should be. We picked that day for a reason. 27th of January 1945 was the day when the Red Army conquered the Auschwitz camp. And I choose that word wisely because the Red Army never “liberated” anyone. So they conquered the camp. And in 2005, if I’m not mistaken, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution declaring that particular day 27 January, International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

 

So the iconic camp of Auschwitz, which is the most known alleged crime scene of what is labelled the Holocaust, Auschwitz is also the reason why we have this day as the international day of commemorating this event. And we want to use that too. Commemorating the truth and the lies, the exaggerations and distortions and the victims of this Holocaust narrative. The Gazans are the most recent, most extreme victims of this narrative. But we will have people present their experience of persecution and prosecution. Victims, martyrs, dissidents thrown into prison or having their livelihood destroyed.

 

So there’s a lot to commemorate and remember for us as well, and we will do that as well.

 

So the event itself will start 9:00 AM Eastern US time, which if I’m not mistaken is 2 clock in the afternoon for the UK and 3 PM for the rest of the most of the, …

 

Mark Collett: I think 7 PM in the UK. 2 PM Eastern is 7 PM in the UK.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah, but we started 9 AM so it should be 2 PM

 

Mark Collett: Oh, okay. Sorry.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah. We actually may start the stream a little earlier to test things and make things sure that things are running smoothly and make few accommodations and have a few organisational remarks before actually the day picks up with the presentations that we have.

 

Now if you click on the second link there, that CCR list and timeline of presenters that gets everyone down to the actual table where we have the presenters.

 

So this is our day. How we plan on having it unfold. We have the day started out with a contribution that I’m giving. Originally we had hoped actually for Nicholas Kollerstrom to take that spot. He initially had submitted a paper but then he had to retract it because it came under pressure, has been under pressure for a long time. So he wanted to talk about the English eclipse of communications.

 

But anyway, it’s not going to happen. There’s already one casualty of censorship and suppression, which is mounting and increasing in the UK. So I’ve taken that spot. And I take the opportunity because that event, short side note here, that event of course is streamed live. We will have the links on that website where people can reach it. Actually at the top there is already one and we’ll keep that updated.

 

But it’s a Tuesday. Not everyone will be able to sit and watch an event like this all day, on a normal workday. We will of course record it will be posted and people will be able to watch it whenever they please. And we will have it not only on our holocaustsummit.com website, but the company that actually hosts it, as at least the plan, is FTG media.com, and they are an independent platform.

 

So when it comes to them, we will not be de-platformed because it’s owned actually by one of the board members of one of our main sponsors, which is the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust. And he’s on the board there and he has suggested we use that platform so that we can’t be de-platformed.

 

I will be talking about 80 years of Holocaust scepticism, whence we came and where we are. So I give a historical overview since we assume that a lot of people over time, as years go by and these contributions will be accessible, a lot of people will not know much about our School of thought, its history and its views, that an introduction is due. We haven’t had anything like this happen in 20 years.

 

[26:02]

 

So there’s an entire generation that has grown up which needs to be or should be given an introduction of what we are handling and what we’re dealing with here. So I will be talking about the main events and the main achievements of Holocaust scepticism over the past, well, since the end of the war, basically 1946 or 47 when it kind of started. And in the second half I will give a quick rundown giving the most striking, the most convincing arguments why everyone should be sceptical about the mainstream Holocaust narrative, and give resources in that context where people can learn more.

 

So with that, the event kicks off. Every contribution, full contribution will have 45 minutes. I hope everyone stays in that slot, but you know how it goes. There will be a time overrun, possibly. Followed by 15 minutes of question answers. There will be a chat feature, FTG media.com like any other, like Rumble, like YouTube has a chat feature. In order to chat you have to have registered with the platform that doesn’t cost anything. You just submit your email address and get a free account and then you can chat. Now for the question and answer series session at the end, the last quarter hour, people are requested to make a donation in order to submit a question like the Superchat and various other platforms. And in order to do that you have to have a wallet with FTG media and the wallet is just automatically set up. When you get an account, you just have to fill it with some funds, whatever resources you take it from, plastic money or crypto or whatever.

 

So that is the plan. My contribution is followed by a compatriot of yours, James Mosley, who is a Catholic priest from the UK. He has done a number of documentaries on the Holocaust over the past several years. Really good documentaries. And when he was working on his first one, he approached me and asked me a number of questions. So I became his historical advisor, if you wish. Each time he was working on one, he submitted what he was doing and I would make suggestion how to improve it.

 

And he will be presenting what he found about the evidentiary situation in one particular camp that he had investigated and done a documentary on. And that’s Treblinka. Now if you click on James Mawdsley’s name up there in the list that actually will get you to, for every one of the presenters will get you to where there’s a short bio, you can see a portrait and a summary of the presentation. If you scroll a little up or down, you can go back to the list, back to the timetable.

 

So this is James Mawdsley. We have actually grouped the European presenters first. UK comes first. James Mawdsley. Next one is Peter Rushton, also from the UK and he will be talking about also history between dogma and taboo. He talks about the British intelligence communications and interaction with the German intelligence toward the end of the war. Looking for evidence that the Brits were really thinking that the German intelligence community, which was under the rule of Heinrich Himmler, the supposed main architect of the Holocaust, that the British were actually acting and communicating as if they believed that Himmler was really murdering or had already murdered at that point of time six million jews is a very interesting contribution. I’m looking forward to myself the that the title of it, the Dog that Didn’t Bark is already an indication of which direction that will go.

 

We’re having a lunch break after that. It is scheduled to be 2 hours long now I expect some time overruns and maybe stretching into the hour between 12 and 1. But we will have enough time during that break and I have yet to announce it because we just finished up preparing for this. The lunch break will have will see the premiering of a new documentary we have just finished. And this is about an appearance of representatives of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust in the public arena. And we had a little bit of an impact there and we want to share that with the community. That’s I think a 35 minutes so it will fit in there either way.

 

So in the afternoon the first session is actually shared by three individuals who will be talking about their personal experience getting into Holocaust scepticism, how that happened and then also to what degree they were exposed to persecution, prosecution, ostracism and that kind of stuff. Nathaniel Kapner has been a very active person on social media, on YouTube, and now on other alternative platforms going after self-chosen people and their capers and also critiquing the misuse of history for political purposes.

 

Leo Walls is a bookstore owner in the US who tells his story of how that went when he started offering books that most don’t like.

 

And Georges-Marc Theil is actually a French fellow who has had decades of experiences of exposure to persecution in France.

 

Which leads us then to the next contribution that’s a bigger one. Seasoned revisionist Vincent Reynouard from France has under his belt now already 30 years of activism and I would say historical scepticism in general on the World War II issue, not just the Holocaust. And he has been the main focus as of last two, three years of the French judiciary to lock him away for good. He currently has to deal with seven court cases at once. He will be speaking during his presentation primarily about his experience of the abuse, … No. Not the abuse, the misuse of the law and the judiciary to suppress dissidents, peaceful dissidents on historical issues.

 

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And after that we go into abuse of power and politics based on history. Heinz Bartesch and Andrew Allen will report about their experience with the Office of Special Investigations, that’s the jewish branch of the FBI that was focusing on what they call informally, “Nazi Hunting”. Hunting down immigrants who had some association during the war with what the Axis powers were doing and the OSI was trying to deprive them of their immigration status or even citizenship and deport them to Europe to have them put on show trials there. The biggest case known is probably the case of Ivan Demjanjuk, John Demjanjuk from the 1980s. Bartesch and Allen will actually discuss a different case, that concerns Heinz Bartesch’s father, late father, who the OSI wanted to deport. And they got a bloody nose because they didn’t reckon with the stiff resistance and skilled defense that Andrew Allen, a lawyer from the San Francisco Bay area, was putting up. They were presenting some insight into how the FBI’s branch, back in the days, it has been disbanded by now, was violating the law, breaking the law left and right and forging evidence and so forth in order to frame immigrants, just to have a heyday for themselves or to push Holocaust propaganda.

 

After that we have retired Professor Dr. David Scrbina, who used to lecture in the humanities and philosophy at Michigan State University, if I’m not mistaken. He will be talking about early mainstream voices of Holocaust scepticism already during the war and right not too long after the war, which shows that back in the days, even mainstream people were sceptical about the narrative being pushed at war’s end.

 

And we wrap up the day making full circle what I started beginning the day, showing where we came from and where we are. Carlo Mattogno, probably the most prolific revisionist scholar and writer that we have, but in my opinion, also the most knowledgeable Holocaust scholar on the planet! The mainstream included! He is. He can’t speak English or understand it well, and he is currently in a besieged situation in Italy where they passed a law in 2016, threatening anyone voicing their dissent on the Holocaust narrative with up to six years in prison. Now they haven’t done anything against him, even though he kept publishing books by the truckload. I think he’s by now more than 50 books published on that topic. But he does that in a very scholarly manner and in a very low profile. So in Italy there are a few, 10 people and maybe buy the books, but they’re kind of shelf warmers. And he wants to keep it that way. He doesn’t want to gain a larger profile. He wants to do his work underneath the radar of public attention in Italy. And therefore he has submitted his paper to me to present it. And I have increased it by my own take of: Where Do We Go from Here? One part of it is what are the White spots on the map of Holocaust historiography, which still need to be investigated, explored. But also what else needs to be done to hand the relay staff over to the next generation. And there are some quite promising prospects when it comes to new people coming on board with new ideas, with the help of new technologies, bringing it to a new level and a different level. So trying to imitate or copy what Carlo Mattogno has done with his massive work is not what’s going to happen. The direction I think will go somewhere completely different. And I will be talking about that and hopefully this is going to happen. And with this I hope we will be closing the day.

 

Now, there’s always a possibility that things don’t run as smoothly as they are listed here. Just today we got information that a powerful group, international group, in the business of suppressing a free speech and freedom of assembly. They call themselves “Opponents Against Racism and Anti-semitism”. But basically what that means is they want to stifle anyone who has an opinion that certain ethnic and religious groups with power and influence, don’t want to hear!

 

So they are working in the background. We know of that and we hope hopefully will be able to prepare for there’s no way of telling from DDoS attacks to trying to get to the backbone provider and what have you. Anything is possible these days to just. And if it takes to turn off the power plant so you don’t have electricity, [chuckling] but that’s what it takes, that’s what they’ll do! So we expect something. They have noticed with the kind of exposure that our Summit has already received beforehand that we are there, what we’re doing and that we are reaching out and having a ripple effect and they don’t like it!

 

Now the kind of presentation that I’m giving here right now, I’ve done a number of them. If you scroll up on the screen here slowly, you can actually see listed on the right-hand side a number of presentations linked to of other platforms where I have given an introduction to this event. So if anyone is interested in listening to those, you just click on the image and go to the respective platform which is usually Rumble or Bitchute where this is posted. And because of this, I think, and you helping out now too, this event hopefully is going to be a success. It promises to be a success for us, and it threatens to become one for those who don’t want our voices to be heard.

 

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So there is going to be in the background the usual electronic warfare from the traditional enemies of free speech, to be expected, and we will see how that goes.

 

This is by and large my narrative now we are here right on the screen where the organisation of that event is shown. We actually, when we submitted to people who were potentially able to give presentations, the invitation to do so, we said we basically accept papers on three main topics.

 

The first is Holocaust in History, Taboo Between Dogma and Descent. It just talks about new historical findings and insights and interpretations on the event itself. The next one is Holocaust and Politics History as a Weapon. And I mentioned we have one contribution in this regard which will discuss the weaponisation of immigration law against immigrants in order to get propaganda campaigns out of it. And the last one is Holocaust and Human Rights History as a Muzzle, Holocaust Used to Push Censorship. And we have a number of presenters as mentioned who will discuss their very private experience of censorship.

 

So it should all be civilised and decent and for no one to get overly excited about in either direction. But of course certain groups get extremely excited if they fear that voices be heard that can disrupt their main source of power and influence. And there’s a lot at stake for them and they will go to extremes if need be to shut us down. We’ll see who at the end will have the upper hand.

 

Mark Collett: So are you expecting the usual sort of suspects to try and put a stop to this? Have you had anybody threaten your platform or have you had any threats in the run up to this or any attempts to stop this already?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yes, yes! We just today we got information that as I mentioned, you can have your own platform which is a computer program, but it has to run at the end of the day. It has to run on a server and has to have the connection to the backbone with the Internet cables with enough bandwidth. And usually you have some company providing services from the telecommunications company that hooks you up to what we call today the Internet, the physical Internet, to companies who do server co-location or dedicated server renting. And along that line I’m not quite sure what it was and I wouldn’t necessarily want to reveal it either. We already had approaches from certain quarters of pressure groups to shut down any link in that chain that would get our voice from where we sit to the Internet to the world. So that’s going on in the background and we have to see how that goes. Nothing has been shut down yet, but they’re trying.

 

Mark Collett: And when you kick this off, what sort of attendance are you expecting?

 

Germar Rudolf: Well, the Holocaust Summit website itself, HolocaustSummit.com if you go to the top, you actually see a link there where people can jump to the sign up form and just submit their email address so that they can stay informed if there are any sudden changes in the timeline in whatever is going to happen. Because we never know. If we go by that the last time I checked and that’s a week ago, that’s not quite accurate. We had submitted 300 emails through that. But I would expect these are only the hardcore ones who are willing to share their email. And the other, there’s not really a need if you just keep to the website. Go to the website and look up what the link is to the actual event and we will have it posted on other websites as well. You don’t have to identify yourself. So I would assume that the vast majority will not identify themselves even with an anonymous email.

 

So we need to see how it goes. I don’t know. Sign up has really accelerated with my frequent experience appearances on shows like yours over the past two weeks. And I would assume by now we have probably harvested several hundred more. But there’s no way of telling, as I mentioned, how many people who, how many of those who will attend will actually have submitted their email address. I would assume it’s a minority.

 

So hopefully we are going to have several thousand which will most certainly exceed, far exceed the range we could have had in the past with physical conferences, which were limited to a few hundred.

 

And of course then we have it not just streamed, but we have it posted. So on the usual platforms that will reach many, many more thousands, ten thousands in days, weeks, a month and years to come.

 

Mark Collett: And bearing in mind you said you are going to be doing donations and questions and answers on the day, sort of how do you expect or is there a way that people can sort of sponsor you in advance?

 

So obviously these events, they take a lot of time and effort to put together. I know it’s not a physical event and I know you’re not paying people to be there, but sort of, is there a way that people can actually sponsor the event and make donations in advance to help you guys with your infrastructure and to make sure the event goes smoothly?

 

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Germar Rudolf: Absolutely! The HolocaustSummit.com website itself, if you were to go there and you go to the very end of the very bottom of the page, it shows the logos of the two companies who are the main sponsors and have officially declared themselves to be sponsors. You know, most actually want to stay anonymous. But there’s also a link that simply says, “Become an AMREC Holocaust Summit sponsor today”, which gets you to the shop of our Holocaust Academy where you can buy sponsorship packages and that actually has several tiers of whatever you want to invest in it. This would be the way to go. So holocaustsummit.com at the very bottom of the page, that’s where you could chip in to cover any costs. Most of us are actually working for free right now and there’s no payment. And FTG Media.com is a sponsor itself and their way of sponsoring is by giving us access to the platform free of charge. We don’t know what happens if, excuse my French, shit hit the fan with all kinds of attempts to shut us down and then we have to come to some more expensive ad hoc solutions to circumvent these things. There’s no way of telling right now!

 

Mark Collett: And one final question. So with it being on a Tuesday, it’s going to be difficult for some people to attend. Obviously it looks like it’s going to be a fascinating day and your lineup is an extremely strong lineup. And it’s rare to have a conference that is that well packed with guests, to start at 9 AM and go all the way through to 6 PM. It’s a big event. So where will this be posted for Replay? Is this going to be up on Odysee? What sort of places will it be available on replay?

 

And as a final sort of additional question, usually with conferences there are some kind of sort of, I don’t know, maybe a brochure, or some kind of physical keepsakes available. Is there any merchandise that people can purchase as well to support the event? So sort of two questions. There will there be sort of a full re-upload of everything? And is the like to commemorate this, any kind of physical merchandise that supporters could also purchase?

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah. So to the first question, once the event is over, it’s getting archived on our own website. HolocaustSummit.com will be moved to a folder 2026, and we will have there with posters and a short description, all the contributions listed. You click on it and you will probably have several options. They will be on Rumble and Bitshute and Odysee, and you can pick which platform you want to watch it on. We are probably not going to strain our own server because those platforms are good enough.

 

So this will all be available and the link to that archive will then be of course on the front page, on the home page, prominently displayed. When it comes to merchandise, we just started developing that and if I am not mistaken, … Let me have a quick look where we are with this.

 

The only company right now that actually has a merch contract is Armreg and we are developing, … Now if you were to go to armreg.co.uk as you know, the publishing branch of what we are doing is actually located in the UK. It is located in London. So if you go to armreg.co.uk and share that with the audience or do you want me to share it? Which way is faster?

 

Mark Collett: I’m just doing that myself now.

 

Germar Rudolf: So Armreg.co.uk.

 

Mark Collett: Just bringing that up. There’ll be two seconds. Just give me a couple of seconds just to get that set up. There we go.

 

Germar Rudolf: Okay, now at the top menu you see merch as the third entry. Yeah, click on that’s for merchandise and once that has loaded.

 

Mark Collett: Oh, it has loaded. Sorry, it’s just now I have to share that window as well. Well, just give me a second because it’s a pop out window. So two seconds. It’s weird how that works. Give me a second. Share screen. That’s the one.

 

Germar Rudolf: Yeah, that’s the one, yeah.

 

So if you scroll down a little, we have our various merchandise there’s one for Armreg itself and general stuff and there you see some merchandise. We have a mug and a Tshirt right now that has the announcement of that particular event.

 

Mark Collett: Wonderful.

 

Germar Rudolf: So that’s how to go about it.

 

Now I have still to put that link more prominently on the Holocaust Summit website so people can get there directly. That’s a good point for you to make that and I will make that happen once we’re off here, and I will add that to the site so people can get to the merchandise easily.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! We do have some Superchats so I’m just going to bring them up two seconds. We actually have a couple that hung over from the other night, so I’ll deal with them quickly. Covenant Soldier gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Love the show with Rob Rondo. Hail the active clubs.”

 

Thank you so much! Flying Dutchman gave $50.

 

Thank you very much. And said:

 

“Catching up. Happy New Year!”

 

Well, thank you my friend. I’ve actually sent you a message today so you can pick that up on Telegram. Thank you very much. Nationless Nationalist gave $3. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Hope and encouragement to those suffering in silence.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10, thank you so much! Said:

 

“Qu huge respect to Mr. Rudolf.”

 

Thank you so much! And Aunt Sally gave $5 and said:

 

“Mark, how likely am I to get my door kicked in for watching this conference?”

 

In the UK you see, one thing I’ll say is like in the UK, if I’m correct, And I’m just getting this sort of as correct as I can. In the UK it isn’t illegal to actually deny the Holocaust or to engage in revisionism, as far as I know.

 

[53:13]

 

However, if you were to do so in a way that was seen as insulting or demeaning to people, it would be. So if you were making jokes or if you were saying things which were couched in the way that was meant to be insulting, that may be illegal.

 

However, if you were doing sort of academic work such as what you do, that would be seen in a different light.

 

So I think in the UK this would be legal, but it would be very hard for anyone to get into trouble for simply watching this at home. Would you agree with that?

 

Germar Rudolf: Absolutely! We have, with all the censorship laws we have not a single case where a country has stooped down to the point where they persecute people for just attending, listening and consuming. Even the countries with the harshest policies when it comes to this. That’s Austria and Germany. You can, for instance, you can buy Holocaust sceptical literature that is not illegal if you buy only one copy for your own use. If the government happens to intercept it, they can still destroy it, but they can’t prosecute you for it. The same with attending a conference like this. It is not an offence in any country of the Western world. And when it comes to the UK, case law says you can contest the mainstream Holocaust narrative until you’re blue in the face. What you cannot do is in that context, disparage victims, survivors, martyrs, whatever. So in any way talking ironically, sarcastically, humourously, or in any way that is considered offending toward the survivors, the victims and so forth.

 

Now the company, as I just mentioned, Armreg.co.uk that has published and republished all this material and before that we were actually in the UK since 1996. I was personally, I lived in the UK until 1999. And I started the whole operation there. And it was called Castle Hill Publishers has gone belly up in late 2023, and then we switched over to Amreg. So just a reorganisation basically. Almost at all times been in the UK except for a stretch of one and a half, two years, and we have never been harassed by anyone. So keeping it scholarly, keeping it matter of factly and civilised, as you should, any discourse anyhow, keeps you safe in the UK for now.

 

Anyone attending, when you are in the chat and you make comments in there that can be considered disparaging to jews in general or survivors or descendants and victims of the National Socialist persecution of the jews. And you do that with an account that for some reason, because you set it up that way, allows the authorities to identify you, which would probably not be smart.

 

If you want to go on FTG media or somewhere else, use an ID that doesn’t allow anyone to identify you. And if an email is required, if you want safety, use a burner email or someone, some email that is not officially traceable to you directly.

 

However, if you abstain from making those kind of comments, which I advise under any circumstances, because nasty language doesn’t reflect good on the community and I’m no fan of it. So if you abstain from these kind of comments, you should be good under any circumstances on any place on this planet.

 

It’s different for our presenters. Some of them come from Europe and as I’ve mentioned, when we’re talking about those coming from France, they’re talking about their persecution. They’re not going to make statements on history themselves because we don’t want to get them in trouble. And if we have the question and answer session, I would like the audience also to abstain from questions that corners those French individuals and putting them on the spot, because they need to fly home and don’t want to be arrested. Not fly home, [chuckling] because they are at home! They don’t want to get arrested the next morning or whenever.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, and I want to echo that. I mean, look, I believe it’s very important to talk about the kind of things that we’re talking about tonight. I think it’s important that we discuss things like this.

 

But I also think it’s very important to ensure that we do so in a productive and polite manner. Talking about this kind of stuff in a way that is disparaging or rude or ridiculous, it not only opens you up for arrest, which is a ridiculous position to put yourself in, but it also demeans the seriousness of the topic and it takes what we do out of an academic light.

 

Now, I’m not a revisionist. I talk about revisionism. I have revisionist guests on, but I’m generally speaking somebody who talks about demography and jewish or Zionist power and the way that jewish power affects the Western world. They’re the topics that I mainly specialise in. I do speak to revisionists. I’m interested in it. But obviously, if you are going to get involved in this, my suggestion is that you deal with it in an academic way for your own safety.

 

And also so the topic is held in the high regard that it deserves to be held in. If you’re there sort of cracking jokes and sharing memes and trying to be as edgy as possible, kind of undermines what people like Germar are doing. And there’s an awful lot of revisionists who have suffered greatly at the hands of the authorities over the years. And you don’t want to demean their suffering and their sacrifices.

 

We’ve got a five dollar Superchat from Mr. Smalls 14, who, regardless of what I just said, said:

 

“Germar, is it true you tried to sell soap in Sacramento with Pastor Eli?”

 

That’s obviously one of those jokes. You don’t have to answer that if you don’t wish. No.

 

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Germar Rudolf: Yeah. The UK’s attitude towards Germany is that Germans have no humour. And you need to understand that the chicken has come to roost. The UK, as a winner of the Second World War, has pushed Germany in a situation where Germans can go to prison for jokes. The shortest German joke, do you know what that is?

 

Mark Collett: No, I don’t.

 

Germar Rudolf: The German word for joke is “witz”. Okay. The shortest German joke is “Ausch-witz”.

 

Mark Collett: [uncertain laughter from Mark]

 

Germar Rudolf: That gets you in prison in Germany.

 

Mark Collett: Indeed, indeed.

 

Germar Rudolf: So Germans don’t have humour because they have to watch their back. And they had to watch their backs for centuries. The Nazis didn’t invent book burning and the current government didn’t invent censorship laws. Germany has been under the stranglehold in the medievals of the Holy Inquisition, the worst of all European countries. So it has been bred into the German and out of the Germans to make certain jokes. Jokes live from the tension of putting things together that are not quite acceptable, talking seriously about them. So you package them. And that is exactly the attempt that this fellow has been doing, pushing the envelope into the not quite acceptable. But making this joke.

 

And that has become a crime in Germany and in borderline areas, has always been. And now in the UK, people are getting in trouble for showing sarcasm, irony and so forth in that context. If and when jokes become punishable by law, you stop laughing! And I take that opportunity to make that clear. These kind of jokes. Make them when you’re sitting in the bar, but don’t make them publicly.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I want to sort of echo this is a serious point. So I actually believe that when it comes to comedy, when it comes to humour, when it comes to making a joke, really nothing should be off limits.

 

And once you start making certain things off limits, it’s very easy to make anything and everything off limits. So then you get sort of the Edinburgh Fringe voting the joke of the year as “Why did the chicken cross the road?” Because no one’s allowed to actually joke about anything else.

 

And I think it was Jimmy Carr who made the remark, a famous British comedian, who made the remark that:

 

“He’s probably already made the joke that will get him one day cancelled and ruin his career.”

 

And that’s how it is, because we constantly see the mainstream media, liberals, sort of fans of censorship, spending hours, if not days, if not in some cases weeks, trawling through people’s back catalogue of streams, tweets, Facebook posts, searching for something that they can find offensive in order to cancel someone, or worse still, get them arrested. And I find this very interesting because I’ve wrestled with this myself. People might say:

 

“Well, look, Mark, I came to your shows and I’ve now watched 200 hours of them and I found these three things offensive.”

 

And my question would be, if you came to the shows of Britain’s leading ethno-nationalists, and you were looking to find something offensive, is that really my fault? You know, I’m not out there saying it in the street. I’m not shouting it through a megaphone into people’s faces. I’m hosting a show. People come to the show, they know what they’re gonna get when they come to the show. This isn’t something that’s being broadcast to every car and home and workplace in the UK. You come here and you seek this out, knowing that you’re going to get a discussion about things relating to our cause.

 

And I think the people going out of their way to dig things up on people and to, it’s like Germar’s conference. If you were to go there and to record everything that was said and watch it in detail, taking notes, looking to find something offensive, that kind of defeats the object of watching the conference in the first place or attending the conference in the first place, because you’re not going there in good faith and then finding it offensive by accident. You’re going there on purpose to look for a reason to be offended so that you can then report it.

 

And this is one of the widespread problems in the West that people, the people who claim they don’t want to be offended will go out of their way and go to great lengths in order to be offended, or so they can claim that they were offended in order to report people to the authorities, which is just essentially a charter for censorship, allowing this to happen. But I do always ask people to be respectful, to exercise caution, not to use racial stuff.

 

As I said to all my guests, you know, please abide by sensible rules so that we are always the polite academic group that talk about things in a sensible manner.

 

And one thing that impresses me with Germar both times I’ve had him on is the way he can speak so fluently and in such a way that I think it would be impossible for anyone to find him offensive unless they were going out of their way to do. Optics prime gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“This man is a national treasure. Thank you for your work, good sir.”

 

Well, thank you for that Superchat. Lars Aerback with AE, gave $15.

 

Thank you so much! He said:

 

“A positive story from Denmark today. Our Supreme Court acquitted a man for hosting a site with racist jokes. Old fashioned holocaust jokes amongst them. The case has been through all three courts and has been going for over six years. This is a win for freedom of speech!”

 

Well, that is certainly good news from Denmark, and I hope to see more.

 

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Germar Rudolf: Denmark? Regarding Denmark?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Germar Rudolf: Oh that’s good! Yeah. Denmark has been a stronghold in all those years. Some German holocaust sceptics and historical sceptics actually fled to Denmark and found refuge there over the past four, five, six decades.

 

Mark Collett: And I’d like to say as well, big thank you to Malibu and Coke for gifting 10 subs to the channel.

 

And as I always say, those who accepted the gifted subs. It would mean a great deal to me if you kept them up. You know, $5 a month means very little to most people, but if I had four or five hundred people every month subbing my channel, it would take a lot of weight off my mind at the beginning of every month.

 

And that’s the end of the Superchat so I’m going to bring the stream to a close now. You’ve been a wonderful guest as ever! The advert for the conference has been excellent and again you’ve done most of the heavy lifting tonight and most of the speaking, but is there anything you’d like to say as a final thought before we wrap things up?

 

Germar Rudolf: Not much more than holocaustsummit.com! So the ultimate link will be streaming and that can change any minute depending on what happens, will be posted there there. If you submit your email, you’ll get it also in an email. And I hope we all see you there! And we are going to build a new community that gets stronger by the day!

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much!

 

I’d like to thank Germar for being here. He’s a courageous guy. He’s a very good speaker. We have interviewed him in full before. If you want to watch that interview, it is in my previous videos. Go and watch it. It’s well worth watching. It’s a two hour special, that one where we talk about Germar’s personal journey, what he’s been through, the incredible repression he’s faced and his incredible journey in his life. Please do that and also support his event, support his work. He’s a really nice guy. It was really kind of him to come on here tonight and he’s been, as always, the perfect guest.

 

I’d like to remind you all that I will be back on Sunday with the ladies from Return to the Land. That’s three housewives, mothers and home-schoolers from Return to the Land talking about women in nationalism and their roles as mothers and homemakers and educators. So that’ll be an interesting stream. Please join me then 7 PM UK time on Sunday for that. Until then, if you’re out doing activism at the weekend, please be safe, stay within the law and know your rights. And until Sunday, have a great evening, have a great weekend and I’ll see you all again soon.

 

Thank you to Germar, thank you to everyone who donated so generously. And as always, thank you to this wonderful community for supporting us, for supporting these shows and for supporting the good work of my guests. Thank you everyone. I love you all. Have a great weekend. Good night.

 

 

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Mark Collett
1 day ago
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Valkyria81
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The Bee Sting
1 day ago
Wooden doors?

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Alice1488
1 day ago
Watching replay. I’ve never heard this brave intelligent man speak before.

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Sir Trancealot
1 day ago
14

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
14 Night all!

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@Aunt-Sally
1 day ago
Thank you Mark and Germar

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@noreplacement
1 day ago
Thank you Germar

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@noreplacement
1 day ago
One day Mark and Laura will be presenting a day time TV show. With guests like Monika Scheafer

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yes dear
1 day ago
2mm glass and a wooden door, no in/out pipes.

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@RonP1
1 day ago(edited)
This HMD is getting more unbearable with each year that passes. For starters, they start talking about it in the media a week or two before the actual day, that’s without all the other propaganda being inflicted on the public all year long. What a sick world we live in where a vile group, with the help of its puppets, think it is their God-given right to teach young minds of British children a load of old BS.
As Arnold Leese said..
“Fascism holds that education up to 14 is a half-measure with attendant
evils nearly as great as its benefits. It produces a population which can
read but which has not learned to think, and is accordingly open to every
kind of evil suggestion or lie, readily disseminated in print.”
Less

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@noreplacement
1 day ago
Britons will not have humour for much longer. Just look at the liberal boneheads we have for “so called” comedians.

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@tuer
1 day ago
the jews ethnically replacing their liberators in europe and america should be the eye opener gaza is

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@Evola19
15 hours ago
That is a misunderstanding of history – the jews have been at war with Europeans their entire existence. WWII was a gentile uprising put down by other gentiles – no jews were “liberated” from anything, they won WWII and were still surrounded white Europeans whom they hate. Not for much longer though.

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yes dear
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God Bless Kamerades x

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@BritishGammon
1 day ago
Sophie Duker can “joke” about killing White folks on the BBC and the police took no action

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yes dear
1 day ago
Jailed for physically explaining how high his dog could jump!

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yes dear
1 day ago
holes in the roof and chimney built after surrender

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@nationless8nationalist
12 hours ago
Just figure all subscriptions giving a mere 12 dollars a year. 192000 dollars in a year. Do not get frustrated and be overwelled. We can help our activists.

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jm
20 hours ago
Problem: if you order a book when you live in EU, you have to pay a lot in douane rights -I ordered a book from Antilope Hill from Irving en had tot pay MORE in charges and taxes than the book itself…

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yes dear
1 day ago
One People

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Echo_Harp
1 day ago
Thanks.

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Valkyria81
1 day ago
hi from denmark

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yes dear
1 day ago
Im looking forward to wearing my Flecktarn next week

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
“I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’”

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yes dear
1 day ago
God Bless Ursula x

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Skyler Durden
11 hours ago
I have Germar’s encyclopedia.

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Through it, not around it
13 hours ago
WTF is Germar promoting FTJMedia? That site is cringy basement soy larper central. It is the complete antithesis of Germar and represents everything he tries to distance himself from.

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@nationless8nationalist
1 day ago
just missed it

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago

@ForKamerade
wot???

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yes dear
1 day ago
British gammon, Turncoat Dlive Traitor lol

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Valkyria81
1 day ago
ive just found out. and im out… so sad im beeing missing this

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Echo_Harp
1 day ago
“Found 3 things of offensive stuff” sounds like a joke in its own…

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yes dear
1 day ago
Not long Enough Valk!

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Valkyria81
1 day ago
how long do u continue this chat tonight?

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yes dear
1 day ago
\0

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago

@BritishGammon
you can say anything as long as you can make the cops run away showing up at your house.

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Secure the future of our people
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@ForKamerade
o/

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yes dear
1 day ago
Thanks Merkal, Congratulations Kalugi

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yes dear
1 day ago
Only in Deutschland 2026!

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@noreplacement
1 day ago
The state can easily spin revisionism into anything they want

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yes dear
1 day ago
Will look, Thank you

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

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yes dear
1 day ago
Scientific & Engineering Impossibility

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yes dear
1 day ago
How dare you question history, Its got Laws protecting it Because Truth needs Laws or you go straight to the Gulag Goy

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@Aunt-Sally
1 day ago
Good evening folks

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Sir Trancealot
1 day ago
Evening gents

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago

@SublimeBraid
gassing 6 million jews and fighting a two front war at the same time?

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Tomigun
19 hours ago
They decoded the Germans’ Enigma in 1941, yet didn’t intercept ANY message about a “holocaust” or “final solution” carried out.

SublimeBraid
1 day ago
the risks of multitasking, lol

yes dear
1 day ago
Dragged out, “One by One” LOL

danzimmons
1 day ago
it’s all of them.

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
odysee chat ded?

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
evening all

@Aunt-Sally
1 day ago
I don’t blame his wife, they’d probably take their child away somehow

yes dear
1 day ago
test

yes dear
1 day ago
LOL

yes dear
1 day ago
110,000 at most

yes dear
1 day ago
Guten Abend Kamerades!

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@nationless8nationalist
13 hours ago
thank you comrade.

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to Patriotic Weekly Review, episode number 341. And we’re live tonight on Odysee, DLive, Rumble and Entropy. Please make sure you share those links. It’s going to be a huge show. You know who’s on tonight. I’m going to introduce him in a second. It’s going to be a big night because you’re going to be talking about his arrest, his imprisonment, his bail, all the things going on in Australia, because there’s massive news coming out of there. And hopefully a bit of an update on Joel as well, because apparently Joel’s in a bit of trouble, people have been saying in the chat. So I’m looking forward to all of that.

 

But before we get started, I’ve got a number of things coming up later in the week.

 

Now, on Thursday, I’m live with Dr. David Duke at 4 PM UK time. On Friday, I’m doing a special stream because Melanie Phillips, who is jewish, has given this impassioned speech explaining to jews why they are jews first.

 

So if you’re British, when you’re jewish, you’re jewish before you’re British.

 

Now, this is quite interesting because recently the British Parliament adopted the international definition on anti-semitism, which said it was anti-semitic to say that jews had greater loyalty to their diaspora or to Israel than they do their host nations.

 

So it’s basically they’re pushing to make it illegal to say that. And here’s Melanie Phillips giving a couple talk to jews, saying:

 

“This is absolutely the case, it should be the case.”

 

And we’re going to discuss all of that it’s a 20 minute speech, we’re going to play it live, I’m going to break it down. Hopefully you’re going to enjoy it. Sunday night, it’s either going to be Nationalist A-Team, or a review of this year’s crop of Christmas adverts, depending on who can make it and how we can figure that out. So something will be happening on Sunday as well, so plenty to look forward to.

 

Now, if you support my work, if you think what I do is good, please do consider making a donation. Obviously, donations keep me doing what I’m doing. If I don’t get the donations, I can’t afford to do what I do. I work full-time in the movement. I spend hours every day helping people with their sort of legal issues, with other things, helping people with things such as their CVs, if they’re young men. I do all of these things and I do my very best to make sure that our people are looked after.

 

So if you want to help me with that, please consider making a donation. Nothing I do goes behind a paywall. I have never charged for anything. So everything you see that comes in, that is how I make my living.

 

So if you believe that I deserve financial support and you want me to keep doing this, please do consider a donation. $3, $5, $10, whatever you can afford.

 

And remember, if you’re one of those thousands of people watching this on replay, you can go down below and hit that Entropy link and make a donation. You don’t have to be live to make a donation.

 

So obviously we have a few thousand people watching live over the course of the show, but there are many thousands more watch it afterwards. If you’re one of those thousands of people watching afterwards, you can also make a donation if you watch week in, week out by clicking that Entropy link. It’s in the description. You can also donate via crypto-currency. All the crypto links are in the description below. And you can write to me if you need help at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. Everything is very gratefully received. And I notice I’ve got a five dollar donation which is, can I, how do I get that up? Oh, I’ve figured that out. Yeah, it disappeared under the little thing that was over on Rumble.

 

So you can donate on Rumble through Entropy or through Odysee, but the preferred methods are Rumble and Odysee. But please do consider giving something. And you can write to me at mark@thefallofwestman.com.

 

Anyway, let’s get into this. It’s obviously Thomas Sewell. He is the NSN [National Socialist Network] in Australia and he is the man that the system are desperate to silence.

 

The other Sunday night we reviewed the excellent Winter Nationals, which was a wonderful breakdown of what these guys have been doing for the latter half of the year. And to say it’s impressive is an understatement.

 

Now, since we last saw Thomas, he has been arrested. He was denied bail. He was given bail. He’s back out on the street. And now the Australian government are desperately trying to draught new laws to silence people who are nationalists and National Socialists and think that Australia should be a White nation.

 

And obviously White Australia is what we want! Thomas, how are you doing, my friend? I said this when he popped on. This man looks great. He always looks great. He always looks in fantastic shape. But considering he’s just out of prison, we’ve had two actual ex-prisoners on this week and last week.

 

Last week it was Sven. And both of you have come out of prison looking in really good shape. So at least we know prison food must be good. How are you doing, my friend?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s good to speak to you, Mark. I hope this, I just changed over to the proper microphone. Can you hear me all right? Yeah, awesome!

 

Mark Collett: 100%, mate.

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s a great feeling being out of prison. It’s rejuvenating, being especially in solitary confinement, you get quite limited to sunlight and fresh air. So being able to just go for a walk in nature is especially enjoyable.

 

So when you’re restricted from particular privileges in life, when you actually do get to enjoy them there, you know, everything’s like. I don’t explain it. I did three months, no coffee as well, or the two and a half months that I was there, and about a couple days before and a couple days after and just under three months, and that’s probably the longest I’ve had off coffee since I started drinking coffee as an 18 year old. And that was hard. That was quite hard because especially being in a cell, all you kind of want to do is just drink instant coffee and just pace up and down just to pass the time, other than read.

 

But yeah, I enjoy the small things in life when you get out of prison. You know, it’s all the little things in life. You have extra attention to detail, you have extra observant powers. You can fill up the tank of life much quicker and even more fuller, I think. So just like spending time with, my daughter’s almost three years old now, my oldest daughter, and just spending time with her is really special. I’ve got a lot more patience for her because I’m just a lot more patient.

 

Yeah, it’s nice to have a break. I know prison sounds awful and it is awful! And getting strip searched isn’t fun. It’s quite degrading. And when you’re in maximum security, that happens basically like multiple times a week. So half of the Victorian Corrections have seen my penis, which is always good.

 

But yeah, it’s yeah, it is what it is. You know, it’s truly an underworld. And yeah, it rebalances and re-establishes the baseline, I think, of life and it makes me a more effective leader.

 

So I don’t go to prison on purpose. I want to make that clear. I’m not a troublemaker for the sake of making trouble. But it’s nice to have a little reset. This is the second time I’ve been a prison, So I did 200 and I think the prison, the court said 210 days or 208 days, but I think I did 212 days. Not that it really matters that much, in solitary confinement last time held on remand without bail during Covid, during all those famous Melbourne protests.

 

So you can see why they did that entrapment operation back in 2021, because you can see what happened with the March for Australia, the rally that happened on August 31, three days before I was arrested. You can see that the government has been very keen to keep me off the streets when Australians are marching in large numbers in the tens of thousands.

 

And in the case of the Covid protest, it was in the hundreds of thousands in Melbourne. And they didn’t want people like me speaking to the crowd.

 

So this time it was 70. Again, the court said 72 days. I think it was more, I think it was like 76. Because they don’t count like the holding cells, the police cells. And I don’t know why, they just don’t count it when you’re in the court. They only count once you’ve been like established in the Corrections.

 

And yeah, much easier the second time. It is definitely! I don’t recommend it unless you, unless it happens to you, unless fate puts you in that situation. The first time I was in I would have a lot of negative thoughts about how difficult it was. But this time those thoughts didn’t really enter my mind. I didn’t allow them to.

 

And also just the context of guys like all the political prisoners in the UK, guys doing years in jail for not even getting to punch people in the head. I mean, isn’t there a guy that got jail for just like being aggressive towards a police dog during those riots? The riots last year. Some guy got like 6 months or 12 months. For what? Like being aggressive towards a police dog!

 

I mean, that’s just crazy!

 

Mark Collett: Shouting at the police dog or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s just disgusting!

 

So the fact that I mean, everyone’s seen the footage of the day, so I won’t go into it too much because it’s obviously an ongoing court battle, but it’s pretty obvious what happened and it’s pretty disgusting the way that the police and media have protected Antifa, who are Left-wing terrorists.

 

But it’s to be expected in a war for the survival of our civilisation and our race and our nation, which is all more or less the same thing.

 

So, yeah, considering what I’ve done and how much punishment I’m going to get, it’s minuscule compared to I think Rob Rondo only threw like two or three punches and he’s been hounded for like a decade. I mean, he did what, like four years or something or three years? And I mean, they’ve just he was denied bail and remanded and fucked around way more than me.

 

So we’re quite lucky here in Australia that the laws are nowhere near as strict as the US and Britain in terms of political dissidents. They still come after us. Everyone complains about Australia, like:

 

“Oh you guys are living in a tyranny!”

 

It’s like, we are, but we’re living in like I call it the “primary school teacher tyranny”, or it’s been rebranded as the “gynocracy”. I mean, our leaders are just a bunch of primary school teachers. And not denigrating primary school teachers, but they just have no place ruling over the country.

 

[10:53]

 

And so and we’re very lucky as well. I think the other thing, and I said this last time I got out of jail, is Australia still has an “old guard”. And if you don’t know what that means, it’s that probably. I won’t give you an exact percentage, but there’s a lot of old White men and some women as well, not just men. There are some old White men and some old White women in the Australian legal system, both judges, magistrates, you know, prosecutors, defense, you know, king’s councils. There is still an old guard. There are still these old White men and women that actually believe in the rule of law. They might not necessarily support what we’re doing in the fullness of it, in terms of our ideology and in terms of the fullness of our belief system. But they’re certainly not against it and they certainly believe that the rule of law should triumph over the current political attitudes of the ruling class.

 

And they’re definitely in a power struggle. There’s definitely a cold civil war or there’s a Cold War between these very patriotic and very common sense and very mature and intelligent people within the Australian legal system, especially in Victoria and New South Wales.

 

I don’t know too much about Queensland. I haven’t had to deal with many court proceedings up there, but I would assume Queensland as well has a similar old guard. And these people have zero tolerance for the politicizing and moralizing of the courts by Left-wing activists.

 

And yes, the lower courts are infected by these same Left-wing activists, that is true, but nowhere near the same rate the United States and Great Britain is. I mean, you look at these judges in Great Britain, I mean, I’d say the majority of them are paedophiles. [chuckling] I think I don’t get you in trouble, Mark, but again, I’ll be careful with what I say about your country.

 

Mark Collett: No, no, no, like, look, you can definitely call them that and I’d agree with you. When it comes to the actual judges in the UK, you see them bending over backwards and groveling for every sort of paedophile, child molester, you know, child porn addict that comes in front of them, like trying to do anything they can to find reasons to let them walk out the door.

 

You look at a copper the wrong way at a protest and you know, they’re like, well you might as well be the devil incarnate. It’s two years and you could have been a church warden. You could have been the guy that helps kids, you know, train for the after school football team. No matter what good you’ve done, if you’ve attended anti-migrant protest, they will do anything to get you sent down. Conversely, you can have quarter of a million indecent images of children on your laptop and they’ll be looking for excuses to let you out.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, and I’m not saying that there’s not corruption within the Australian court system. There is corruption, and there’s a lot more than, I mean, any amount of corruption is bad.

 

In a healthy society, you’re still going to have a difference between judges. I think that that’s normal. I’m not against the slight inconsistencies between judges. The problem is that the inconsistencies aren’t slight, they’re massive! You’ve got one judge letting off a serial rapist and they’re getting 5 months prison or 11 months prison, serial rapist, you know, Afghani or African, you know, schizophrenic. And so that they don’t get deported.

 

But then you have judges holding myself or Joel Davis or like what happened in Adelaide where 16 of us for marching down the street were arrested for loitering and held in police cells for three days. You know, they don’t do that to people caught with child porn. They don’t hold them in police cells for three days, they get bailed straight away.

 

There was a bunch of Aboriginals in Adelaide about a year earlier, I don’t know, five or six of them that attacked a bus driver with weapons and rocks and glass bottles on a Friday night, I think, and they got bailed Saturday morning. But we got arrested I think on a Friday, on a Saturday morning and we didn’t get bailed till Tuesday. So their argument was there’s no judges over the weekend that are going to give us bail. And that’s obviously a lie because we looked into it and there was these Aboriginals, these drunken Aboriginals attacked a bus driver in a riotous behaviour and they were bailed instantly.

 

So I don’t want to preach the choir, obviously everyone knows it’s a two tier system. But my argument is that here in Australia we are very lucky compared to the US and Britain that we still have a huge percentage of old school judges that are very fair. They are very fair! And 72 days is not a long time considering the allegations. It’s not a long time. I certainly had no issues being remanded for that period of time. But I was hoping to get out by Christmas. I was hoping to just do a little bit of time and get out by Christmas.

 

And so I’m out before Christmas. I can spend Christmas with my family. Both my daughters are born at the start of the year. So I get to have their first and third birthdays as well.

 

So I appreciate all the support. I appreciate everyone that donated. It did cost a lot of money. That’s the only problem. They are fair, but you got to pay the temple their fee. And it is their temple. It’s their temple. You’re going into their sacred place where they are priests of their craft. They take it very seriously. And you got to read between the lines. There’s rules on top of the rules!

 

[16:39]

 

And I’ve spent a lot of time in and out of the courts now for the past five years. I had no experience with the courts, the legal system. I had a clean criminal record until about four years ago. And the last four and a half years I have just been constantly dragged in and out of the courts with the lawfare. And I have actually started to have a particular respect for the craft and the trade. I think there’s an Aryan dialectic and there’s a jewish dialectic within our law and I certainly have a deep respect and love for the Aryan dialectic within the common law and within the Supreme Court and the way that these people treat law. I was saying to Graham, who runs the Offaly Offensive podcast, I was saying to him off screen, because he’s an engineer by trade and I’m half of an engineer.

 

I said to him:

 

“It’s hard to respect all these talkers when you work with real structures.”

 

When you’re an engineer, you’re building something real. If you build something and you build it wrong, it collapses and people die. But how I explained it to Graham was I’ve started to respect law as a trade from the perspective that these men are engineers of the written word, of the spoken word. They’re engineers.

 

And that’s why when you get up to the really High Courts, they speak so clearly and so coherently! And it’s really impressive. I mean, my lawyer, it was $11,000 a day for to represent me, the King’s Council, to get me bail. That was the fee you got to pay the temple to get out. But he did not make one mistake. It was truly remarkable. And I respect anyone that’s passionate about what they do for a living, and anyone that takes what they do for a living to the final conclusion. And you know that I was very impressed with his performance on the day.

 

And on top of that, it was the most, … I hope that you put up some images if you can find some online, Mark. But I was in Courtroom 4 of the Supreme Court of Victoria, and you look up and there’s two hundred and eighty eight swastikas on the roof, on the ceiling! Two hundred and eighty. I counted all of them. And it’s just the most. It’s the most remarkable. It’s like being in a cathedral. It’s the most absolutely remarkable courtroom I’ve ever been in.

 

And I thought to myself, I remember sitting there thinking, I am in like some sort of Aryan temple to common sense. [chuckling]

 

“Well, I’m pretty sure I’m going to get bail today.”

 

Like, how is there two hundred and eighty eight swastikas on the ceiling? I don’t think I’m going to get jewed today. And I didn’t get jewed. And the media was seething! Like, just seeing them seeth just brought me so much joy! And I just walked up to the media when I got given bail, and there was about 20 of them, this little gaggle of presstitutes. And I said:

 

“When you’re done typing, have a look at the ceiling. Anyway, have a good day.”

 

And I walked off and they were like, they looked up at the ceiling and they were so mad! It was so good!

 

Mark Collett: So when you’re in jail then, was the whole time in solitary?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, always. Yeah. Political dissidents in Australia are never put in a mainstream or protection unit. They are only put in solitary. So in Australia we have three types of units.

 

Mark Collett: Is that your courtroom?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s loading. No, yes, that is, that is! But you’ve got to try to get the ceiling.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I can’t find.

 

Thomas Sewell: Actually I don’t think that’s court room four. No, that’s not court room four. That’s one of the other ones. But that’s a very beautiful one as well. I’m not sure which one that is but I’ve only been into two of the Supreme Court courtrooms.

 

Mark Collett: I did put in courtroom four, but that’s all I got.

 

Thomas Sewell: Someone sent me a really low res image of it recently. I don’t know how they got it. Ah yes. Yeah, you can’t see this because this is a really low res image. Really low res. So you can’t see it. You have to kind of Zoom in, send his name. I’ve sent that to you in DMs. That’s the ceiling of courtroom four.

 

Because unless you go in there, you’ll think I’m making it up. But it’s a swastika meander. It’s like that kind of Greek-Roman swastika.

 

Mark Collett: I’m not sure if you’ll be able to make it out.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, don’t know if you can Zoom in, but the whole, … See how it’s like a grid. Yeah, but that’s the ceiling anyway. Yeah, it’s very impressive. If you live in Australia you should, or you’re going on holiday in Australia, you should check it out.

 

Mark Collett: So that’s what you’re saying about always, so you never get to go into general population then?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. The reason for it is twofold. One, they’re obviously concerned that you’re going to mobilise the White people in prison. So just like in the outside world, they want to cut off leaders from the crowd. There’s a lot of White men in prison in Australia. Most of them are in there for unfortunately trumped up domestic violence charges. That’s just the reality. Like probably half of the men in prison are in there for having serious arguments with their missus.

 

And the other half are in there because they’re career criminals and it’s usually drug related. That’s the majority of White people in prison.

 

[22:07]

 

 

And I can’t give you an exact percentage, but I would say a very large chunk of those men, especially the career criminals, the ones in there for domestic violence, are not too interested in getting involved in prison politics and joining a group and trying to run a unit, because they’re usually only doing a couple months, three months, two months, stuff like that. So they want to just do their time and get out.

 

But the career criminals that are usually doing 12 months, 18 months at a time, and they’re always in and out, always in and out, they are very interested in prison politics and they try to make sure that the unit is run by the White people, because they know that if it’s not being run by the White people, that or the Aussies as they call it, as we call it. I guess I just use the word White a lot because it’s an international struggle for our race. But if it’s not an Aussie run unit, it’ll be somebody else run unit and the Whites, the Aussies, will be put under the thumb. And so it’s just common sense.

 

The average prisoner has a better understanding of politics than the average person on the outside. They might be in a lower, you know, vibration, so to speak, [chuckling] in terms of what they do to entertain themselves when they’re outside of prison.

 

But yeah, they definitely have a better understanding of like Schmittian* democracy. [chuckling] They’re much more well read on Political Science and how democracy actually works in practice than the average person. They’re very astute students because the result is getting stabbed! So you tend to pay a bit more attention, like all things.

 

[* The Schmittian friend-enemy concept, articulated by Carl Schmitt in his work “The Concept of the Political,” posits that the essence of politics is defined by the distinction between friends and enemies. This framework suggests that political actions and identities are fundamentally shaped by conflicts and antagonisms, emphasising that politics arises when these distinctions become pronounced. Carl Schmitt (1888–1985) was a conservative German legal, constitutional, and political theorist. Schmitt is often considered to be one of the most important critics of liberalism, Parliamentary democracy, and liberal cosmopolitanism. But the value and significance of Schmitt’s work is subject to controversy, mainly due to his intellectual support for and active involvement with National Socialism.]

 

So they don’t want people like me or Joel or Jacob or really anyone in our organisation and even guys not in our org, guys that are just coherent leaders, coherent, stand up White men, they don’t want them in general population. And so any potential troublemaker who, I’ve run into lots of these so-called potential troublemakers. They’re all in solitary confinement for long periods of time. So they’ll be in a mainstream unit for 12 months or six months. And then one day randomly they just get picked up and just put in solitary.

 

And then they’re in the cell next to me or three doors down from me and we’re talking under the door and I’m asking them:

 

“So why they put you in solitary?”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh mate, it’s just politics I’ve pissed off the governor or I’ve pissed off one of the chiefs and I’m trying to like get to the bottom of it.”

 

And it’s almost always to do with the fact that they were organising four or five Aussies to create that “protection unit”. That’s the wrong term to use [chuckling] when talking about prison, but to create a “security team” for the Whites in that unit. There might be 80 people in the unit and if you got say four or five White guys sticking together out of 80 people, they can basically run the unit in terms of keeping the peace. Keeping the peace! When the Whites run a prison unit, you know, peace is established, more or less.

 

Whereas when non-Whites run a unit, it’s almost always terrorism and extortion at extreme level. So yeah, they’re very afraid of people like me being able to mobilise more than four or five guys. So they just nip it in the bud early and they just say:

 

“Nah, we’re not letting you make any friends.”

 

Unless it’s through like 30 centimeters of concrete!

 

And the second reason is obviously I think their jobs would become harder, there’d be a bit more oversight if someone like me, or a high profile person got injured.

 

So the unit I was put in there was an organised crime figure that got murdered by a guy called Matty Johnson. Because they allowed, even though it’s a maximum security, he was in one of these kind of management units where they intermixed and he got, basically it was an organised hit within the prison, like a very high profile organised crime person. So they come into under massive scrutiny. The people that organise, they’re called Complex Case Management. They used to be called Major Offenders Unit and they’re the people that manage high profile people like myself when you go to prison. So you have to have a meeting with them and they organise like:

 

“Oh, what unit do you want to go to? Blah, blah, blah!”

 

And doesn’t matter what you say. [chuckling] So I’ve realised that just, yeah, keep the conversation short, move on, deal with whatever happens.

 

Mark Collett: So when you’re in there, you were treated well though. You didn’t get sort of any because sometimes people sort of fall foul of the guards. You hear that some prisoners are treated very badly. How would you say your time was in there? I mean, did you get everything you needed? Were you allowed contact with friends, family? Could people write to you? Could people send you gifts and books, or were there restrictions? Like when we were speaking to Sven last week, who spent, he was jail for 28 months and spent 14 months in jail. And they did a lot of bad stuff to him. And initially they withheld his medication, which he needed because he’s disabled. They banned him from having certain books and magazines. They withheld Christmas cards, they withheld letters, all sorts, really.

 

I mean, they withheld a letter from me because at the end I said if there’s anything you’d like me to pass on to sort of other friends or family, just let me know.

 

And they’re:

 

“Oh, he’s trying to pass messages to people on the outside!”

 

Any excuse to sort of hurt the guy, they went for it.

 

Now, was it like that with you or are they a lot fairer in Australia?

 

[27:49]

 

Thomas Sewell: I’d say it’s the exact same situation. Certainly the first time I was in jail, in prison during Covid it was like that on steroids. It was very hard! Like, I didn’t even get access to books for five and a half months. So, and I got about three months worth of mail. Rocked up. Yeah. As I said, after three months I’ve been in prison, I think I got two letters or three letters. The first couple months I was in prison, they withheld cards. You know, you don’t get birthday cards, you don’t get Christmas cards. They withhold a lot of things from you. I guess if you just go in with the understanding that you’re not going to be treated fairly and that you’re going to be tortured, then you kind of come out with the opposite mentality. It’s like if you go into a movie and you go:

 

“Oh, this movie’s gonna be great.”

 

And it turns out the average. You think:

 

“Oh, it’s crap movie.”

 

Whereas if you go in thinking:

 

“Oh, it’s probably gonna be crap movie, I’ll just go and see. I’ll just try and enjoy myself.”

 

And you might be surprised. You might be like:

 

“You know what? Actually, it was a good movie!”

 

And then you tell your mate:

 

“Oh, it’s a good movie.”

 

And he goes and watches it and he’s like:

 

“It was fucking awful! What are you talking about?”

 

So that’s kind of like prison. It’s about the mindset you go in with. And I went in with a smile on my face. I came out with a smile on my face, like I knew what I was in for. And it wasn’t as bad as I expected because it wasn’t as bad as the first time. The guards this time were very different towards me. I think because of the March for Australia, I think because of my public profile. The first time I went to prison I was just some evil neo-Nazi that had, … In our scene I had a very big profile but in terms of Australia wide I wasn’t very well known. You’d have to be already kind of engaged in our politics to know who I was. Otherwise all you know is:

 

“Evil neo-Nazi bashes African for no reason and bashes jews for no reason!”

 

So I was treated pretty badly, especially by the non-White guards, like they were flicking my lights on and off all through the night in solitary, keeping me up. So I couldn’t sleep. Yeah, I was withheld, I couldn’t have anything. You know the first couple months were really tough last time.

 

But this time I got out of the assessment prison pretty quickly. I was in Barwon within about three or four weeks, which is a proper prison, which is what you want. When you get arrested in Australia you don’t want to be in the holding cells, you don’t want to be at the assessment prison. You want to get to a long term placement as soon as possible so you can just settle in and build that routine in a proper, in a decent environment.

 

So this time I was treated with massive respect from the guards! Massive respect! Like I’ve never been treated like that before. It made me feel a bit like a celebrity, because my face was just all over the news even though I didn’t have a TV. I obviously get rid of the TV straight away, but everyone was talking about it, every guard was talking about it. Half of the guards went to the rally [March for Australia] for example. They were talking to me about the rally. Most of them complained to me that we need better speakers [equipment] because they couldn’t hear the speech because they were a kilometer away and they were just saying:

 

“Yeah, I was at the rally but I was right at the back and I couldn’t hear anything. But it was awesome to see you up there!”

 

And like they were just like, they were just so respectful and so as helpful as they could be. My experience with the guards was completely different this time. It was a real zeitgeist kind of moment to see that the average Aussie that at least works as a prison guard is actually really sympathetic to the most far-Right politics in the country. And I don’t want to throw them under the bus, because the prison intelligence are probably watching this stream to try to get intel. So I’m not going to throw any of them under the bus! [chuckling]

 

But, yeah, it was probably half of the guards. I mean, it was awesome! It was really awesome to see. Yeah.

 

And, I mean, they didn’t do anything against the rules. They didn’t put their neck out for me, but they were just very polite, very kind, very respectful and, yeah, just very helpful. And same with the prisoners as well. Probably only 1 in 10 prisoners was aggressive towards me. Not that they can do anything. So I just laughed at them because I’ll fucking kill these people if they come close to me. [chuckling] You know, I’m not concerned at all with the idea of someone trying to stab me in prison.

 

These people are just fucking weak losers and they just all talk and they only behave that way. There was a few instances where there wasn’t a concrete wall, or a perspex wall between us, and there was not one time anyone was aggressive towards me when there was no perspex wall. When there was ever a situation where you’re being moved and, there’s guards around, but you’re actually in possible contact, no one ran at me. No one attacked me, no one swung at me. No one! It was all just very polite, cordial. Didn’t matter what colour they were, they knew who I was and they stayed clear of me. And any communication with me was just very cordial. There was no wars being started.

 

[32:37]

 

So this idea that the comments section you get on Facebook and people like:

 

“Oh, he’s in prison, he’s going to get bashed by islanders, he’s going to get bashed by Africans!”

 

No, that’s actually not what happens. When there’s a concrete wall, they talk a lot of shit, but when there’s no concrete wall, they’re very cautious.

 

So that’s why, as a White man, you’ve got to be an apex predator. It doesn’t matter how intellectual you are, it doesn’t matter how many books you read, you got to be a physical beast! That’s the only way anyone’s going to respect you in that environment. And you could end up in that environment as a political dissident. And a lot of people get hurt. A lot of people get hurt because they’re not physical beasts.

 

So, yeah, I had no dramas. I had no dramas, just a few loud mouths hiding behind perspex.

 

And a lot of the non-Whites looked for an excuse to be my friend. And I don’t mean that in the sense like pretending to be my friend. A lot of non-Whites tried to do the, not brown alliance, the kind of anti-jew alliance, the Lucas Gage stuff with me. A lot of the Arabs that recognise me just thanked me for allegedly bashing Avi Yemini*. And I was like:

 

“I didn’t bash Avi Yemini!”

 

And they were just like:

 

“Oh, that Avi Yemini dog! Like you legend for getting rid of him from the rally.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yeah, all right.”

 

And then they all were saying to me:

 

“Look, Australia’s fucked! I’m gonna go back home!”

 

Like, these are like Egyptian guys, Syrian guys, stuff like that. I’m like:

 

“Good on you! Sounds good!”

 

Like, I’m not complaining about that. I’m like:

 

“Why is Australia so fucked for you?”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, you can’t even slap your missus here. You end up in jail!”

 

So there was like Arabs in jail for domestic violence [chuckling] and they were complaining to me that they’re gonna take their wife and go back to the Middle East. And I was kind of like:

 

“Okay, maybe the White femmes are right. Holy shit! But nah!”

 

[* Avraham Shalom Yemini is an Australian-Israeli far-Right provocateur and commentator. Since 2020 he has worked as the Australian correspondent for Rebel News, a Canadian jewish far-Right website. Wikipedia]

 

Mark Collett: Well, we’ve had similar things here. Both sort of Sam [Melia] and Sven [Longshanks], the Muslim prisoners pretty much like them because they were like:

 

“Oh, yeah, you guys know about Israel. You guys know the truth about who runs the media.”

 

Generally go on with them.

 

So when they release, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry to interrupt, but I would call it a non-Aggression Pact.

 

And I think that’s when you’ve got to pick your battles. I think, especially when you’re in prison, you’ve got to pick your battles. And you don’t want to go to war with every tribe all at once, like while you’re locked in a concrete box. It’s not. [chuckling] Yes, yeah, you’re not gonna get reading done, I’ll tell you that.

 

But yeah, sorry, you continue.

 

Mark Collett: No, I was gonna say. So obviously when you came out, the media were furious! So what position are you in now? So you’ve been released, but you still haven’t been tried, have you? Because you were being held. Weren’t you being held on remand?

 

Thomas Sewell: Correct. Yeah, we’ve still got a whole two year process to go through. [chuckling] So I got bail on the basis that this process is probably going to take two years. It’s probably unlikely that I’m going to get more than a couple months in jail for these alleged offences if found guilty.

 

And so why have me, like the Supreme Court, the magistrate was happy to just throw away the key because the magistrate’s the lowest level of the court. They’re not a real judge, they’re a magistrate. You actually have to consent to the power of the magistrate. You can say to them, get fucked! And go up to the next layer. The only concern with going up to the next layer, which is called “County”, is you get a real judge, but you can get real time.

 

And then above county is Supreme, and then above Supreme is the Commonwealth Court, which is called the High Court, and that’s in Canberra.

 

So we’ve got actually four layers of courts in Australia, but at a state level, being Victoria, where I am, or New South Wales, where Jack Eltis and Joel Davis is, they’ve got their three levels, we’ve got our three levels, and then there’s the High Court, that’s on top of all that, which is kind of the American Supreme Court. But we have Supreme and then we have a court higher than Supreme, but it’s worded differently.

 

So the magistrates are very iffy, because it’s the lowest level of court. There’s a lot of activists. Sometimes you go into one of these courtrooms and I’m telling you, it’s not a temple to Aryan justice, it’s a temple to Aboriginality. It’s insane! Like, you walk in and you’re like:

 

“How is this a courtroom?”

 

There’s no coat of arms. No Australian coat of arms on it. No Victorian coat of arms. Like, there’s barely an Aussie flag. If there is one, it’s hidden. There’s Aboriginal flags everywhere, there’s Aboriginal dot paintings everywhere. There’s Aboriginal murals. There’s like a smoking ceremony going on in the corner. So there’s like half smoldered, like gum leaves and gum nuts in the corner. And it’s just insane! Like, you walk in there and you’re like:

 

“This isn’t a real court, this is like an Aboriginal tribunal!”

 

[37:20]

 

 

So, yeah, like at the end of the day, Joel’s a tough guy. I’m sure part of the journey that the Joel wishes to go on involves a little bit of prison time. Again, I think he would probably rather do prison time for his direct engagement with the jewish power lobby. Because this comes off the back of a very successful rally where they held a banner that said:

 

“Abolish the jewish lobby!”

 

And I think in December of last year, 12 months ago, 11 months ago, he did a banner rally in Melbourne where the banner was:

 

“Jews Hate Freedom!”

 

And they wanted to lock him up over that they wanted to lock him up over the “Abolish the jewish lobby”. But unfortunately he’s not in jail for speaking out directly against the jews. They’ve managed to get him in jail for this little, for just some side quest comments that are not really that relevant to the bigger picture. And I’m sure he would be frustrated at that. But we all know, everyone in our scene knows that why he’s really in there. He’s in there because he’s attacking the jewish power system. He’s not in there for his smart arse comments. You don’t go to jail for making smart arse comments. You go to jail if you’re on the wrong side of politics and you make smart arse comments.

 

So this is all part of the journey for him and he’ll come out. You know, Joel needs a break. There’s no monster energy drink in prison. So his blood pressure should go down a bit, his heart should heal up a bit. There’s plenty of times to pace and walk and think and not be spamming the social media.

 

So everyone needs a break! You know, the universe works in magical ways.

 

Mark Collett: Indeed it does. Well, we wish him all the best! And with something like this, I’m correct in saying Joel doesn’t have a criminal record, does he?

 

Thomas Sewell: I think he has a very small criminal record. Very, very small. He’s got no criminal record. He’s got no criminal record for violent crime and I think any offence he’s been convicted of was probably 10 plus years ago. Yeah, over 10 years ago and again non-violent, non-violent offending.

 

So yeah, he doesn’t have a criminal record in any real capacity. When I say “any real capacity” in true Scotsman fallacy. He doesn’t have a criminal record in a relevant capacity for him to get remanded. You know, I mean to be denied bail. Usually when they deny someone bail they say:

 

“Because they’re a threat to the community.”

 

Usually they can back that up by saying:

 

“Here’s all the violent crime he’s committed in the last couple months or, here’s all the stores he’s broken into in the last couple months or couple years, and that’s relevant criminal history to being a genuine threat to the community or community safety.”

 

What he’s a threat to is the so-called “social cohesion” of the destruction of Australia.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know, we are as an organisation, we are a threat to the so-called “New Australia”. That’s what they’re calling it. You know Tony Burke, the guy that deported because that’s another topic. The guy that personally signed off on the deportation of one of our members, Matthew [Gruter] *.

 

[* Matthew Gruter, a White from South Africa who took part in a NSN rally outside the NSW Parliament was deported, along with his wife and newborn (in early Dec, 2025) personally by Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke who cancelled his Australian visa after he was photographed among 60 National Socialist Network (NSN) supporters displaying a banner that read ‘Abolish the Jewish Lobby’. His swift deportation was a demonstration of the controlling power of the jewish lobby over the Australian government]

 

Tony Burke is just absolute vermin! He’s been on my radar for about two and a half years because he came out publicly and spoke out against me and the organisation. Just I can’t remember the context. I think we did a protest two years ago. Maybe it was Destroy Pedo Freaks. But he was on the news and I thought why is the Home Affairs Minister on the news talking about this rally? That seems really odd. But he’s good friends with Albanese, the Prime Minister and they’re both communists.

 

And I’m not saying that like:

 

“Oh they’re communists!”

 

I’m saying like they are communists, like card carrying communists. You know, Albanese the Prime Minister of Australia is like, equivalent to your, like Jeremy Corbyn. He’s an actual communist. I think he wrote the newspaper, he was one of the editors of the communist newspaper at the university, back when he was in Young Labour.

 

Mark Collett: So this is all obviously quite interesting and it sort of rolls in as well with the fact that we’ve been seeing a lot of talk from the Australian government that leads us to believe they’re potentially going to push for new laws which would cause not the NSN to be directly outlawed, but to prevent you from doing many of the things that you do and potentially forcing you into sort of rebranding or moderating or changing your message. Now before you obviously tell us about this, I want to say this is obviously being done because you’re very effective. They’re not doing this because you’re ineffective. They’re not doing this because, you’re making a balls up of this and nobody’s listening to you. Obviously more and more people are listening and because more and more people are listening, they want to silence you and they’re not doing a very good job at winning the debate.

 

So now it’s time to sort of shut you down!

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re [chuckling] not doing a good job of silencing us either!

 

[53:33]

 

Mark Collett: That’s what I mean. So really what they’re trying to do is take away your tool set. Because what you guys do very effectively, and I don’t mean this in a, … This is a sort of a compliment, but some people think this is sort of a backhanded comment. It’s not. You’re a small group, but you punch so far above your weight because you’re well organised, you are very provocative, you strike at the right time. And basically you’re sort of the Vietcong of Australian politics. You’re going up against a much better funded, much better armed, much better trained system, but you’re defeating them bit by bit with like guerrilla politics! And they’re now saying:

 

“Well, this shouldn’t be happening. We shouldn’t be getting beaten by this smaller group that doesn’t have million dollar funding. We should be beating them. So what do we have to do now?”

 

At that point they look at you and say:

 

“Well, we’re gonna have to change the law, we’re gonna have to bring in new legislation to disarm you.”

 

Which is incredibly unfair because you’re already, as I said, underfunded and undermanned, but you’re beating them! And seeing this happen elsewhere. Obviously the most famous example of this happening was Britain in the 1930s when Oswald Mosley was getting this massive groundswell of support. So they outlawed a political uniform for no other reason than the fact it was inspiring the British public.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly!

 

Mark Collett: And Australian government seemed to be in a similar flap over you, Joel, Blair, and the NSN.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, there’s nothing they can do to ban us except just outright ban us and lock us up forever. Or kill us. There’s no, they don’t have any other option ultimately, and they don’t have the balls to do that! They don’t have the strength. They don’t have the political capital. Not yet anyway. Even if they banned our uniform, we would just wear what I’m wearing right now! We just wear like a polo shirt with a small logo or insignia. They can’t ban the Liberal Party or Labour Party. They can’t ban political organisations from wearing a Tshirt that has the name of their party on it, for example.

 

So there’s always a way you can circumvent these false structures that they’re trying to build to entrap you. It’s just really about what hill you want to die on and what battles you want to take.

 

And so we have the advantage of obviously we do have to be kind of careful about talking about guerrilla warfare. Unfortunately, we had guys, I know in England you have guys going to jail for having the wrong PDFs, but we had, I think three or four guys in South Australia back in 2020 go to jail for like, really significant time for having PDFs about guerrilla warfare. Not for the purpose of studying it to be a terrorist, but because people are interested in studying history. People are interested, … Like there’s legitimate reasons to have these books. I don’t own any currently because I don’t want my house getting raided and then being like:

 

“Oh, you’ve got the wrong book!”

 

But I have read a lot of these books and I’ve studied the Vietnam War extensively. And it has massive application to politics. You know, politics and war, studying both of them are really necessary. And it’s impossible to study history without studying both of those things simultaneously. And, it’s important for everyone to study history because then you can learn what to do and what not to do you get a little bit of a heads up and you save yourself a lot of time and effort and suffering if you just learn the mistakes of the past. And study Oswald Mosley, for example, or study Adolf Hitler or study all sorts of movements, unionist movements, fascist movements.

 

So there’s nothing they can really do that we can’t out-maneuver. All they’ve done so far has backfired on them immensely. All it’s done is win us more support. All it’s done is help us grow. All it’s done is attack their own legitimacy. All they’ve done is destroy their own legitimacy in the eyes of the Australian public! It shows you that they have no understanding of the Australian psyche.

 

They attack me and say that I should be deported to New Zealand. And they’re trying to work out how to do that, but they’re going to fail. And even if they succeed, it doesn’t bother me. I’ll work it out. It’d be like Hitler going back to Austria. But they don’t actually understand. They accuse me of not being Australian. They don’t actually understand Australians. And I think it’s because they’re so high in their little elitist castle that they don’t actually engage with real Australians.

 

And the average Aussie loves the underdog. Everyone knows that Aussies have a natural rebellious spirit. We’re on the frontier of civilisation, so we’re so far away from Europe and America that that creates this quite hardened political mentality that we are very cautious of like these like the UN. Like the average Aussie that’s engaged in politics is obsessed with being anti-the UN! And you would think being in Australia, being surrounded by all these foreign countries that are not White, that we would rely on the UN, for example, to have security and integrity. But no, we’re like Fortress Australia. There’s an attitude, a fortress like attitude in Australia where we want Castle Law at an individual level. We want Fortress Australia at a geopolitical level. This is a common consensus of anyone engaged in really any level of politics, not just right of centre, even within the centre. And they’re just so out of touch.

 

Everything that they’ve done has degraded their legitimacy and improved our optics by the normie standard. You know, they banned the swastika. They banned the Roman salute. Not that we were using the swastika in public promotion or demonstration. We never waived the swastika outside of the privacy of our own homes.

 

[59:32]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, that was just a decision we made a couple years ago that it would just be an internal thing because most people don’t really get it yet. But the salute, we did the salute, obviously, up until the salute was illegal.

 

And I think the salute is great optics! I’m fighting to win back the legal protection to do the salute and to not necessarily wave the swastika, but I think the swastika is a powerful symbol. It’s in the Supreme Court. [chuckling] There’s 288 on the roof [ceiling]! So I’m fighting for that symbol to be retrieved. But from the normie perspective, from the neutral public perspective, all they’ve seen is a professionalism in our optics and a slight more mainstreaming of our optics because of these laws being changed. So if the government changes laws further, it’s not going to affect our public appeal. It’s going to make us more appealing to the public. From the critics perspective, I don’t agree with this, but from the critics perspective, it makes us more palatable and therefore better. They’re actually helping us!

 

From the critics perspective, all those that criticise us, that don’t get engaged with us and involved because they think that what we’re doing is strategically wrong, well, they don’t understand the game we’re playing. And you have to have been following the journey for some time to know that five, six years ago, we were doing podcasts and I was doing podcasts with Americans, and I was talking about everyone reads Evola, or like most people within the political scene have read, you know, Evola, whether it’s Revolt Against the Modern World or, it’s like, what does he mean when we talk about “ride the tiger”? I mean, we spoke about this on podcast five, six years ago. What does it mean to ride the tiger? You know, you don’t want to get mauled by the tiger. I don’t want to go to jail for 20 years. No one wants that’s horrible! That sounds really horrible! But we have always had a strategy of riding the tiger. We’re just staying on the back of it. We’re holding on. It’s a very powerful beast, which is the system, the beast system.

 

But it’s running out of steam. And the same thing, “surf the Kali Yuga”. This is another euphemism that political metaphor, that people describe their political views at that kind of esoteric level. What does it mean to “surf the Kali Yuga”? We’re actually doing it in real life. Our political strategy might be quite nuanced for people that haven’t read a bit of this kind of esoteric Right-wing Nietzscheism.

 

But I think it’s important for political leaders to read Spengler and read Evola and read Devi and have a look at this sort of stuff, even if you don’t take it all in, but just to absorb a little bit of it because it helps you understand about “being above time”. You know, we’re not trying to appeal to people where they are right now! We’re trying to go the absolute maximum distance from the enemy, from the evil, from even looking at it rationally from a Schmittian perspective, to define the two camps, we need to define the in-group and the out-group. We need to define the “friend-enemy distinction”, as a lot of people say.

 

So when they change the law, it amplifies our message and it, in the eyes of the public, it actually strengthens our message. It doesn’t make us give up. So what’s the point in it? It’s just they’re reacting to us. So we’ve been very effective at keeping the government on the back foot.

 

And lastly, before we move on the next point, I would say that we’re not a small organisation anymore. Australia is, I mean, politics is the rule of the minority, always. And the biggest party in the Right-wing in Australia is the Liberal Party, which is the equivalent of your Conservative Party. And the second biggest is One Nation, which is the equivalent of your Reform Party.

 

These organisations are actually very small. On paper the Liberal Party has something like 22,000 members, which is not many. That’s a very small organisation for on paper. We’re 3, 400 on paper. So we’re 1/8 the size of the Liberal Party on paper. And we’ve been around 1/50 of the time that they’ve been around.

 

We have more activists than the Liberal Party has. And our activists aren’t doing it for the sake of getting a paid position within the Liberal Party as a staffer. This is an established, it’s got the momentum, it’s got 100 plus seats in Parliament. There’s hundreds of opportunities for a paid position, 100 grand a year, 150 grand a year, for a paid position. Because anyone involved in mainstream politics is in there for a career, for a paid position. They’re just in there so that they can be satiated by the Parliamentary fat. The parasites is what the Romans and Greeks called them, the parasites. And that’s why they get involved in politics.

 

And obviously yourself and myself, we need to earn a living some way. Like you have the podcast you do and you have a bit of support from Patriotic Alternative. I have support from the organisation and donations. And so we’re both, I don’t, I wouldn’t refer that as parasitism because we’re in a guerrilla political war in that sense. And we need to get some rice from the local village in order to sustain the battle. And that’s all we’re taking. We’re not living in a castle, we’re not living in mansions. We’re just taking a little bit of rice so we can keep the struggle going. And we’re living very austere in that sense.

 

Whereas these people that we’re against, there’s not many of them and they’re all getting paid! Our guys are suffering to do it! So I would say we have more activists than the Liberal Party. We certainly have more people under the age of 50 than the Liberal Party.

 

I mean, if you go to a Liberal Party meeting. Here’s a funny thing, I don’t know if I’ve said this on stream before. They pay our members. I hope the media bite on this, but this is a fact! The Liberal Party pay-they don’t know that there are members — but the Liberal Party pays our members to attend their meetings.

 

[1:05:31]

 

Thomas Sewell: So the only young people you see at a Liberal Party meeting, other than some Left-wing faggots from the university, the only normal straight, White male young people at a Liberal Party meeting are paid to be there and they’re members of our organisation. They have no youth. They have no youth! They’re uninspiring! They have no future. There’s no future for the Liberal Party. They are a freight train going off a cliff! And they are dying as the last Boomers that funded that party are leaving and dying out.

 

So I would argue that within four years at the current trajectory, within four years will be bigger than the Liberal Party. And we are the most [chuckling] like mask off, like White nationalist, … Like we are unapologetic about all of our positions. And yeah, the trajectory is just incredible! The rate of growth is just incredible! They are losing members. So it’s only a matter of time.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, you’re right about the money because one thing that always irks me is they don’t let you on YouTube, so you don’t get any ad revenue. They close your bank accounts, they won’t let you on PayPal, so you can’t take money that way. They won’t let you use X or any of the other payment processes like Buy Me a Coffee, or any of those things. You’re sort of restricted to the couple of places we’re live now. You basically ask for money. I don’t take any money out of Patriotic Alternative, by the way. Everything that I get is what comes in on streams and they reduce you to this and your enemies are basically getting paid $7,000 a social media post by the Israeli government. And they do two social media posts a week and they basically made in a week for two social media posts probably more than you made in sort of half a year.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: It’s incredible! You know, you’re outnumbered, you’re outgunned, but you’re still riling them so much that they have to arrest you, ban you, take away your bank account, harass your family!

 

And it just shows that I think it’s really our resilience and they must be laughing because they must be saying sort of like:

 

“Oh, look you know, people like Mark and Thomas and Joel and Blair, they’re there on a night looking for like, Superchats to keep going!”

 

They must be laughing because they’re sat there eating their sort of steak and their caviar. But at the same time, they’re worried!

 

At the same time, the small amount we make and the number of followers we have worries them! Because they know that ultimately everything we say is true. What we have, is the truth on our side, and that that bothers them more than anything. So even after all they’ve done to us and all they’ve taken from us, at the end of the day, they still have to pass new laws again and again and again to either silence us or take the little bits we do have, because they live in a constant state of terror that the truth will catch up with them. It’s incredible!

 

You know, these people have so much, yet they’re always looking over their shoulders, because they know that their reality could be shattered just by us being able to make an effective speech to the public. Like you did when you were stood in front of those sort of tens of thousands of people at March for Australia.

 

I mean, that was fantastic! And watching you do that to such a big crowd was brilliant! Because over here, it’s completely locked down. Sort of Tommy Robinson and his goons. You know if there was a march for Britain, you’d have a black choir, some Indian guy cooking curry on stage. They’d fly in some Maoris to do a haka* and, …

 

[* Haka is a traditional Māori dance characterized by vigorous movements, rhythmic chanting, and facial expressions, often performed by groups. It serves various ceremonial purposes, including welcoming guests, celebrating achievements, and preparing for battle.]

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s all disgusting!

 

Mark Collett: Yeah but you guys did that, …

 

Thomas Sewell: But, Mark, no one out-goons us! I don’t want to be a goon. I don’t want to be a goon. Right? I’ll be honest. I’ve been called a thug the last couple years by the media. I don’t want to be a thug. I don’t want to be a goon, but I’m not letting anyone thug on me. No one’s gonna goon on me! No one’s gonna thug on me! And that’s fascism, I think, in a nutshell, is like, fascism’s like The Cultured Thug. It’s like, I don’t want to be a thug, but I’m not gonna let any thug thug on me. If you’re gonna thug on me, I’ll fight you, thug on thug. You know what I mean? And I’ll win that way as well. To me, it’s, like, about the coming man. I’d like to have this as a peaceful conversation. And that’s how I tried at the start. Not saying that we’re not peaceful, but you know what I mean?

 

It’s like we are gonna fight fire with fire and poison gas with poison gas. If you punch me in the head, I’m gonna punch you back harder. And if I have to go to jail for that, so be it. If someone stabs me in prison, I’m gonna kill them. Like, so be it. I’ll die a martyr, it doesn’t bother me.

 

But what you were saying before about these people earn more in a day, or a week than what we earn in half a year. To me, this is a good thing. To me, it’s like, I know you’re a movie buff. I know you love movies. One of my favourite movies is Apocalypse Now. I absolutely love Apocalypse Now! It’s just a masterpiece! It’s an absolute masterpiece! And those opening scenes where he’s lying there in the bed and the fan is going over his head and he’s talking about how he feels himself getting weak, sitting in a hotel room and he’s like:

 

“The Viet Cong is out there, they’re in the jungle. They’re staying strong, they’re staying sharp. And I’m in here getting weak and domesticated, basically.”

 

And that’s how I feel being in this political struggle. I am glad of every suffering that I’ve had to go through. It sucks having an aristocratic mind and not having an aristocratic lifestyle, that sucks!

 

But we don’t deserve it just yet. I don’t think we’ve put in enough work yet, you and I and everyone in Britain and everyone in Australia. I think we’ve got to put in a lot more work. I think we’ve got another decade or two ahead of us before we have the kind of aristocratic lifestyle that goes with the aristocratic mindset of honour and dignity and fighting for our people and nation. And I enjoy being poor. I know that sounds like a cope, but I mean it from that sense that we’re in a guerrilla war. When you are restricted from your privileges, austerity creates a particular sharpness in political revolution. And the austerity that we’re under, … I mean, if you were a millionaire, Mark, I don’t think you’d be as passionate. I think that’s just a reality. And it would be nice if we were wealthy, but it’s actually a good thing that we’re not wealthy. It’s actually a really good thing we’re not wealthy because look at Tommy Robinson driving around fast cars with stacks of cash. You know, he’s a sellout! What’s he done? You know what I mean?

 

[1:12:12]

 

And that’s why. He’s playing the game and he’s like the corrupted Briton. You know what I mean? He’s a metaphor for a young man. Now you know more about Tommy Robinson than me, but I think I said on the podcast with Graham [Connolly: The Offaly Offensive (on Rumble) ] last week when I first got out of jail, was when I started my journey I was following Tommy Robinson back in like 2013, 2012. I was following him on social media and I believed he was sincere all the way back then. Maybe he wasn’t. Maybe he was always corrupted. I don’t know as much as you, but it felt like he was really sincere in his belief system and he’s just been gradually degraded by jewish influence. That’s what it feels like, to the point where now he’s like tripled down, quadrupled down! Quint-tripled down on the position and the benefits that come with it. And I don’t want to talk too much smack because it’s not really, it’s unbecoming of us. But, it’s important to know that he has a very different lifestyle to you and I we’re not going out snorting lines of coke every weekend with jews and other people that are basically making money off this, serious money, these Ezra Levants [Rebel News] and these kind of characters that are enriching themselves through the Containment Right. We’re not doing that. We’ve chose the life of the radical, the life of the revolutionary, and there’s suffering that comes with that.

 

But ultimately, it leads to the greater prize at the end, which can’t be purchased. It can’t be purchased! It’s an investment of time, not so much an investment of money. It’s an investment in time and energy and love for our people.

 

Mark Collett: That’s very well put. That’s very well put.

 

And I do think that when you’re fighting this fight, I think money is something that would probably corrupt a lot of people as well. And the people that are easily bought, the people that like sort of shiny things, whether it’s the cars.

 

I mean, I’ll say this right. I think I’ve said this on another stream. Like, I don’t know about you and what your interests are in life, because I don’t know you that well, but the thought of owning one of those, like, supercars, like a Bentley, like Tommy has, that actually scares me! Like, it actually scares me! Do you know why?

 

Thomas Sewell: Insurance? [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: How much do you think a new tyre would cost? You know, like your kid. Does your kid ever sit in the car and fiddle with the electric windows until you sort of bellow at them to stop?

 

Can you imagine if the electric windows stopped working in the Bentley? I’d be like:

 

“Sophia, that’s like that’s like 5 grands worth of electric window, you’ve just, …!”

 

Don’t think, how could you relax in a Bentley? You’d just be panicking every five seconds. I don’t know what people think in chat or whether people think that I’m a bit of a big gaylord for saying this, but, yeah, [chuckling] having a supercar like when an oil change is like:

 

“Oh, that’s 12 grand mate, the oil change!”

 

You just be like, it’d be immediate, …

 

Thomas Sewell: You have to continue taking the shekels. That’s like materialism is a trap in the sense that the higher your standard of living is, you adjust to that standard of living immediately. Like I’ve spoken to a few guys that drive supercars recently, and their position is you get over it within two weeks. You know, guys that own Ferraris and stuff they’re like:

 

“You get over it within two weeks, and it’s not worth it.”

 

And the same thing, they say the same thing, the stress of it.

 

Like if you crash your ten thousand dollar car, you know, okay, your excess is fifteen hundred, blah blah, blah, you get a new car. Imagine crashing a Ferrari, just, …

 

[1:16:00]

 

Mark Collett: Like [chuckling] people are scolding me in the chat for this to say. They’re saying:

 

“Mark, you don’t understand. If you own one of these cars, 12 grand for an oil change is nothing!”

 

Well, I’m never gonna own one of these cars. [chuckling] And the thought of owning one stresses me.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: And what if these sort of, if the money fairy like delivered me 40 Bitcoins tonight or something like somebody’s were like:

 

“Look Mark, you really deserve it!”

 

If I had that money, I wouldn’t want to spend it on a car like that. I think the first thing I do if I had money is probably say:

 

“Look, one Friday night I’m gonna have a night off and like take the family out to the cinema or something.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like I think people who use money to sort of enrich themselves and buy objects, it’s kind of weird because I think I’d prefer to use money to like take my family somewhere nice, take my wife and daughter out. And it’s kind of weird because when you become a parent.

 

So this is a bit of an abstract thing. We’ll have to go to the questions next. If you want a Superchat, please do Superchat. You know, it’s very much appreciated. We’re going to answer the questions in a second, but this is the last thing I’ll say.

 

One thing I noticed when I became a parent is throughout life, you always, before you purchase something, think like, do I need this? How much is it going to cost? How much is it going to dent the bank account? And you do this sort of like weighing up whether it’s worth the purchase.

 

But when you have a kid and your kid needs something, you don’t do that weighing up, you just do it! You know, it’s just something that’s done. When you’ve got a family, it’s just done. I don’t know, I think having a child in many ways sort of like beats the materialism out of people because you understand that most things are fleeting and if you do have money, it’s probably best to spend it on an experience or something good for your kids or something to make sure they’re safer and better off. And, yeah, it really is an eye opener. And I know a lot of people, single people who do these things, like, bucket list. They’re always aware on holidays, they’re always having nice nights out, always eating at nice restaurants. But sort of when you’re a dad, like a new pair of trainers for your daughter for sports day or something means a lot more, doesn’t it?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Because you want her to win that sports day. I mean, and you want her to come home with the trophy, smiling and like:

 

“Thanks, dad, the new trainers made all the difference.”

 

Whereas when you’re just doing something for yourself constantly, it’s like you tra. You’re chasing the dragon’s tail and it’s always one step away and you never find happiness. But when you do something with your family, it’s just different.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, when you started talking, it’s funny, our minds went to the same place. The first thing I thought about was buying expensive, practical shoes for my daughter. You know, she’s at that age where she’s just running around like crazy and I’m obsessed with making sure she wears the Right shoes, because I’ve been the last couple. I know maybe too much information, but the last couple years I’ve been getting into, like barefoot running on grass and fixing my feet from just years and years of wearing, like, Nikes and Adidas where they’re really, like, narrow and constrictive. And so I was looking at, like, child, like, … Anyway, I won’t go into it too much, but, yeah, I spent a fair bit, but I bought them two sizes up, so she’ll get at least nine months out of them, I reckon.

 

But, yeah, it’s like that. We’re very different, you and I, to the elites. Llike their biggest expense for the month is not a new pair of shoes for their daughter.

 

Whereas for me and you, that’s like, I bought a new pair of shoes for my daughter. That’s the most amount of money I spent like this year on any one single thing. And any serious amount of money that comes into the movement. My priority is always infrastructure. My priority is always infrastructure. When serious money comes in, it’s. That’s another home gym set up. That’s another, like, I’m looking at, okay, we’ve got north, east, west, south here. Okay, how’s Adelaide doing? How’s Sydney doing? How’s Brisbane doing? Okay when money comes in, it’s we need to get more training gear, we need to get gym equipment. When real money comes in, it’s like:

 

“Okay, can we set up a HQ?”

 

So the money I’m getting in is not enough to like, own things outright, but we’ve actually graduated to that next stage where we’ve got a whole bunch of kind of, you could call it like, we’ve got like investors coming in that are sort of like their leaseholders, but it’s giving us the ability to have protected rentals now.

 

Whereas we haven’t had protected rentals before, we’ve actually got protected rentals now. We’re renting within our own community from investors. And that’s a massive upgrade from where we’ve been in the past. Because we’ve set up gyms in the past and they last a year and then they get shut down by the local council because the owner pulls out. The owner of the property is like:

 

“Hey, look, we need a new tenant. I just can’t deal with the, like, I’m not against what you guys are doing, but it’s just too much stress from the local council, blah, blah, blah, you know, too much paperwork.”

 

And the local councils know that. And so that’s why they bombard people with just constant, constant threats! You know:

 

“We’re going to sue you if you don’t evict this person, blah, blah, blah. They’re violating these seven bylaws of the local county.”

 

You know what I mean? Like, there’s so many laws that’s the whole point of them. There’s not a charter of 10 fucking rights of tenants or something, common sense.

 

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There’s 300 pages of bylaws and if you look through it long enough, you’ll find something that someone’s in violation of and that’s what they use, that’s the anarcho-tyranny. It’s just the subjectivity of the law. And everyone’s aware of this and that’s why we’re all sick of it! And we want serious change. We need a new Magna Carta. That’s what I’ve been saying to people. And I’ve been kind of focusing my research lately on looking into the subject of sovereignty and looking into the subject of a new Bill of Rights basically. Australians don’t have a Bill of Rights. People in the UK don’t have a Bill of Rights. They do in the US but obviously it’s all messed up and needs reform.

 

So, yeah, what we’re focusing on is when that big money comes in, to me, it’s like the sustainment of the movement. Like we obviously it all happens in stages. We’re gonna eventually have a pub, I reckon, you know, within the next couple years, I reckon we’re gonna have a pub, or a cafe, library type thing. And that’s where the Left have been really successful. That’s where the jews have been successful. That’s where the Muslims have been successful. That’s where the Chinese have been successful. They build parallel economy.

 

And the Right-wing is just so far behind the Left-wing in terms of the traitor Whites are so much more organised than the fighting Whites. And there are entire suburbs in Melbourne where I wouldn’t be served a coffee. Entire suburbs because I’m well known, if I walked through those suburbs and went into the shop and tried to buy a coffee, they’d be like:

 

“No, we don’t serve Nazis, fuck off!”

 

That’s how organised they are. And we need to get to that level. We need to get to that level where we have pubs, and we have cafes, where if a Lefty comes in we say:

 

“Hey, we don’t serve you. Get out! We don’t serve people with rainbow lanyards. Get out! This is not your cafe.”

 

And so they’ve been doing it since the 70s. That’s why they’re so organised. They’ve got a legacy, they’re intergenerational. And where I know there’s probably some pubs that are a bit sympathetic, but they’re very few and far between. And they’ll stand up for very particular issues. Like there are pubs in the UK I saw that pub owner kick out. Was it Starmer? He kicked out Starmer out of the pub? You know, I mean, that’s easy. That’s low hanging fruit.

 

Like when I went on a barrage against Jacinta Allan for saying that people shouldn’t go to the March for Australia and for trying to make conditions difficult, like they shut down public transport on the day, like. I think people came out and criticised me and said:

 

“But people can protest in Victoria. Why is he saying to Jacinda Allen you know why won’t you let Australians protest? He’s an idiot! He doesn’t know what he’s talking about!”

 

No, the law might say we can protest, but they do everything extracurricular to the law to stop us from protesting! And they denounced the rally and they told people not to attend. And they shut down the public transport on the day to stop people getting in the city and they put up roadblocks on the freeways. I mean, they did everything they could to delay and I mean they did all the dirty tricks.

 

So what they say and what they do are two different things. People need to just trust me when I say that these people are trying to ban us from protesting. That is what they’re doing. They’re just doing it in roundabout ways and you need to have a three dimensional mind and not just be like:

 

“Oh, one plus one equals two. Oh, Tom is wrong!”

 

It’s like, no, it’s a bit more nuanced than that they use more strategies than just declaring war, outright war. They’re in a guerrilla war as well. They’ve got to play the game by somewhat of the rules themselves.

 

So, yeah, going back to infrastructure, you know, kicking out a politician from a pub is low hanging fruit. That’s easy, that’s really easy. What’s hard is supporting and backing someone that’s a political revolutionary. And no one’s really going to do that. Like not many people are going to do that. We have to do it ourselves. We have to do everything ourselves. And that’s what political leadership I think looks like.

 

So when people want to invest in us, that’s the conversation I have with them. This is where I want to go with the organisation. This is the parallel economy I want to build. If you’re investing big money in us, this is what we’re going to do with the money. So we’re on trial. There’s a lot of people that have reached out in the last two years in Australia. You know, this old money that used to support the Liberal Party, they’re pulling out of the Liberal Party. They’re supporting us now. And they’re putting us on trial. You know, we haven’t had millions or hundreds of thousands handed over to us. But well, we have probably raised well over $100,000 this year, which is awesome!

 

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And then in terms of collecting money from our own membership and the seminars and everything, we’re probably looking at a similar number as well.

 

So the money it is starting to build a bit of an infrastructure to be able to establish ourselves as a legitimate political structure within the Australian system. Because it is hard to do everything on a volunteer basis. There are certain skills that you need money. But we’re trying to build those skills internally. But what is always going to cost money is setting up infrastructure. So that’s why it’s my biggest interest.

 

You know, I’d love to see it come to England and see a Patriotic Alternative headquarters. The Mark Collett House of Fun! [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: I like that too.

 

Well, look, we need to do the Superchats because we haven’t done them yet. If you want to donate, please do. And if you’re watching on replay, please consider you can donate via Entropy, 24/7.

 

So if you’re one of the thousands of people who watches on replay, please consider making a donation. Don’t just leave it to those watching live. That would be very helpful. So we’ll do the Superchats now. Points gave $25, thank you so much and said:

 

“Donation.”

 

The Gump gave $5. Thank you so much! And he said:

 

“Keep up with the good NSN interviews.”

 

Look, I love having these guys on, it’s always fantastic! The ThinRedLine gave $14. Thank you so much and said:

 

“Good to see Thomas Sewell. Thomas, you’re a real inspiration. I feel the NSN is the only organisation that really understands the concept of Triumph of the Will.”

 

Jay Bradley gave $10. Thanks so much said:

 

“Hail Mark. Hail Tom. This question is regarding the 1948 British Nationality Act. What are your thoughts on how the British population allowed this Act to be passed just three years after World War II?”

 

I’d actually have to look this up.

 

British Nationality Act of 1948:

 

“The British Nationality Act of 1948 created the status of citizen of the United Kingdom and the colonies and granted all Commonwealth citizens the status of British subject. It came into effect on Jan first, 1949 and allowed individuals from Commonwealth nations to have the rights to enter and reside in the UK. The Act also established provisions for acquiring this new citizenship through birth registration or descent and remained the primary law on British nationality until it was largely replaced by the 1981 British Nationality Act.”

 

So, and that basically changed things. So:

 

“A key provision is the person born in the UK is a British citizen automatically from birth if at least one parent is British or settled in the UK at that time.”

 

Basically, I view the British Nationality Act as a complete scandal! You know, I’ve said this many times and I said it in my recent speech at Amren. I don’t know whether people have seen it, but I spoke at American Renaissance, Jared Taylor’s event. Please do check out the speech. You can please share it on, look it up and share it on a Telegram. It’s also on Rumble, Odysee and BitChute. You know, most people who’ve seen it really like the speech and have been very positive about it. But I often say after the Second World War, the was this kind of second founding of the West, this sort of false founding where they sort of rewrote the history of the West, that the West was kind of founded in the fires of 1945, when brave European men gave up their lives to fight for gay pride parades, mass immigration, multiculturalism, etc. Which I obviously don’t believe in the slightest. I find it disgusting that that’s even put forward. But that was kind of the beginning of it.

 

And to be honest, the British people, despite always privately being anti-immigration or most White Britons being privately anti-immigration to one degree or another, have always endorsed the two main parties and have been trapped in this vote Labour, vote Conservative. Vote Labour, vote Conservative. Largely because of the way the democratic system was created and reinforced by the media.

 

And I actually did a video, I’ve done, well, I’ve done several videos on this, talking about this particular issue. And let’s be fair, the British people have constantly been held in that sort of false dichotomy of:

 

“You vote red to get the blues out, you vote blues to get the reds out!”

 

But whatever you vote for, you get the same slop. And there’s this nonsense that sort of persists in the minds of Britons where they often say things like:

 

“Well, oh, well, so and so secretly supports us, but they just can’t tell us they really support us because otherwise they will shut them down. You know, they’ll be silenced!”

 

It’s very frustrating and I kind of sort of flip. I don’t really talk about sort of when I waver very often. But there is one thing I constantly waver on and that’s whether I have sympathy for the British public or whether I’m largely annoyed by them. And at times I have great sympathy for their plight and especially sympathy for young people. But I have also quite a large degree of annoyance for the British public when they repeatedly bend over and take a completely unjustified spanking year in, year out by the same anti-White, Zionist cabal that runs the country, but then refuse to do anything about it.

 

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So the latest the latest outrage is that a black pop politician who is Deputy Prime Minister and also the Justice Secretary by the name of David Lammy, is pushing forward legislation to remove jury trials in the UK except for really in cases of murder, rape or serious offences that would result in a longer than five year sentence. And the public are just going to take this! Really, the British public, when the British public heard that a man of foreign descent was going to destroy the foundation of the British justice system, hundreds of thousands of English men should have been outside Parliament and calling for this guy’s head!

 

But instead people just keep their heads down, go to work, hope that their house prices keep increasing, pray that they’ll still get something of a pension and leave the mess to their children to sort out.

 

And one of the things that always shocks me is when you speak to older people you get this sort of stock response of:

 

“Well, I’m not going to be here to experience it. So I just want to live my days out and forget it.”

 

And to be honest, it enrages me! And there is something about the British public which I do find somewhat frustrating, and the cowardly nature of a lot of people. And “cowardly” might seem like a strong word, but I don’t think it’s unfair. But they will keep reading this.

 

So another thing that’s come to pass today, and this is absolutely hilarious, all these people were told to buy electric cars. And the thing with electric cars, you were told:

 

“They’re going to cost you more money, but they are going to be tax free.”

 

Well, they’re not tax free anymore. They’re going to be taxing electric cars per mile. But why aren’t people up in arms? Why aren’t people like:

 

“You assured us that if we bought the electric car, if we’ve got one of those stupid chargers on our house. If we did all this, we wouldn’t have to pay road tax. Now you’re going to charge us put per mile and eventually you’re going to put trackers in the car and it’s going to be something that just comes out of the bank account once a month!”

 

That’s where this is going. But people just take it! And find there’s something to be fundamentally wrong with, I hate to say it, with sort of White people all over the Western world, who even at this late hour when everything’s so terrible, just keep their heads down and keep taking it!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. It’s a lack of leadership. I think every society is built on conformity. I don’t think you can have a society without conformity. It’s about who’s ruling over the society. It’s an issue of leadership. And yeah, the British people, the Australian people, what they want is obvious to us. What they want to happen is obvious. But they’re not going to fight for it, they’re not going to stand up for it. They need permission, they need strength, they need leadership. They need a class of men to rise out of this disorganised blob of the masses and stand up!

 

And we had so much awesome feedback from our 8th of the 8th [88] march [8th of August, 2025] where it was like the first proper Black Shirt march in Australia. And we didn’t talk about any specific party policy. We didn’t talk about you know, the housing crisis. We didn’t talk about the issues affecting Aussies. We just inspired people.

 

And I think that’s what the British people need. They don’t need haka, you know, Maoris committing, performing hakas in the town centre paid for by Jewenstein or Robinstein. They need a class of British men to rise up and stand above the masses. And this is a time more crucial than ever for people to either be part of those men that are standing up or to support those men that are standing up.

 

And this idea that a kind of disorganised mob, rabble, of individuals all coming with their British flags or coming with their Aussie flags, like March for Australia, is going to solve the problem is delusional and naive at best.

 

And so before the March for Australia rally occurred, for example, we had a lot of people reach out to us and ask us not to attend. I had a lot of people. I’ve never seen my DMs blow up like that before. A lot of people said to me:

 

“Tom, can you just take a step back from this one? Can you not attend? And if you do attend, can you guys just completely blend in with the crowd and not make it about you guys?”

 

And obviously I didn’t want to steal the spotlight in a sense that it wasn’t our rally. We made it very clear that it wasn’t an NSN rally, or a White Australia rally, that it was just a general patriot rally, a March for Australia, a march to stop immigration. That was the purpose of it. And that it more or less organically just formed on itself. But even with an organically formed rally and even with tens of thousands of people coming down with the Aussie flags, it still requires leadership. It still requires a team of guys to set up the speakers, to structure where we’re going and ultimately I didn’t want to step up and take charge of the whole thing. I just wanted to be part of the team that does it. I wanted to make it clear that:

 

“Our foot is in the door, our seat is at the table. You’re not going to have an anti-immigration march in Australia without us playing a part in it. We don’t have to take the leading part, but we will play a part in it.”

 

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And a lot of people try to muscle us out, or convince us out. And that’s because their strategy, which is absolutely foolish and naive, their strategy is that just:

 

“This disorganised mob of individuals is going to eventually, when the mob gets big enough, eventually the government will concede! Eventually the people trying to destroy us will be like, ‘Oh wow, there’s 100,000 of them! This time we will change fucking multiculturalism! We’ll stop immigrants!’”

 

Like [chuckling] that’s never going to happen. It’s completely delusional! It’s a fantasy! The government is evil, they hate us, they’re trying to destroy us. They are not going to change their opinion on this because they’re at war with the British people, they’re at war with the Australian people, they’re at war with the American people and they’re trying to dilute our power and our race through mass immigration. That’s why they’re doing it!

 

I didn’t see really any non-Whites at the March for Australia. It was probably like one in a thousand at most! But Melbourne is like probably over 50% fucking Asian! So you know, they’re not marching for Australia, not that they should. I think it’s good. I think it’s good that they don’t March for Australia. I don’t want them to assimilate. I used to be foolish and say those kind of talking points. I don’t want them to assimilate. I like the fact that they wear their own colours now. I like the fact that they wave their own flags. I much prefer it that way. It makes things much simpler and clearer to everyone.

 

And what we did on that day was we proved that a small, organised. I think there was only 60 of us there on the day in Melbourne, because we weren’t concentrated in one city. We did every city in Australia. And there was only, I think, 60 or 65 of us on the day that showed up, and there was tens of thousands standing around doing nothing. Just:

 

“What’s going on? Who’s in charge?”

 

That’s what the crowd was saying:

 

“Where are we marching?”

 

No one knew. Everyone’s like, all right, we’re all at Fed Square, which was the staging point. Where are we going? And everyone was coming up to me over the course. All these people that didn’t want me there and didn’t want me to take charge, you know, were coming up to me saying:

 

“Tom, what’s going on?”

 

And I’m like:

 

“I don’t know. I’m not in charge. What’s going on? You know, I guess we’ll just wait and see.”

 

And half an hour goes by, 45 minutes go by the crowd starts getting really, really, like, frustrated! There was a frustration in the crowd. Anyone that had a megaphone was like:

 

“We’re going this way, we’re going that way!”

 

There was 50 leaders and zero leaders all at once!

 

And then after about an hour of this, I said to the boys:

 

“All right, everyone get to the front of the crowd on this street and get the drum at the front, get the big Aussie flag at the front and when everyone’s there, I’ll tick the box and we’ll start marching.”

 

And the only reason why that march actually properly occurred was twofold. One, because we marched to the front of it and made sure that it started moving. And two, because when the communists that were hiding under the banners of the Aboriginal flag and the Palestinian flag, when these communist groups try to block us, they were unsuccessful. And that was purely fromour spearhead action.

 

So that, from my perspective, was like, that was those two marches, the eighth of the eighth being the 150 man march at midnight through Melbourne CBD. A proper Black Shirt march. That and then sort of the theory and the practice like that. And then less than a month later, three weeks later, doing that across the whole country, being the vanguard across the whole nation in every major city, our men had the courage, our men had the strength to stand up in the black block, in the Black Shirts and lead the march from Australia, from the front.

 

And not saying that it couldn’t have happened without us being there overall, certainly something would have still happened without our input, without our help. But the idea that we’re just going to sit out and just gone are the days where we’re just going to let these Zios [Zionists] take over! And I know your situation is quite more pressing and difficult in England, the Zios are a bit more established. These Tommy Robinsons and stuff have got massive reach.

 

But here in Australia, we have just been nipping them in the bud for ages. And we have developed the momentum. And we removed Avi Yemeni from the rally, you know, here in Melbourne. You know, I heard that he spoke in England.

 

I mean, that’s just crazy! Avi, the “Ausraeli” allegedly is getting removed from the rallies in Australia, but somehow he’s getting invited onto the stage in England because of his jewish friends.

 

But again, I don’t think what these people say resonates with the Australian people. I don’t think what they say resonates with the British people. So, yeah, the vanguard strategy is working. All of our theory is being put into practice.

 

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And a lot of our critics over the years, after we did that 8th of the 8th March with the big band and the White Man Fight Back banner, a lot of our critics were like:

 

“Okay, that was actually pretty good. Like, all right, you’re starting to nail it!”

 

Like, if that’s what 150 men look like, what’s a thousand man look like? Because that’s is starting to look fucking cool! And yeah. The average Aussie is, the aesthetic style, it’s dorky and gay when it’s five guys on a bridge holding a banner wearing balaclavas, it looks stupid. I agree, it kind of looks stupid. It looks silly.

 

But when it’s 150 men in formation, it starts to actually look a little bit neat and clean! It starts to:

 

“Okay, I understand what’s going on now. It’s this uniformed order. It’s not this disorganised blob. It’s this uniformed order!”

 

And we’ve got a mission and we’re removing our individualism and our individual identity for the purpose of following the structure. A new structure, a new system.

 

So there’s a lot of metaphysics to it, and we’re kind of playing with magic a little bit in that way. And that’s not fully understood yet. But when you see what we build over the next 10 years, you’ll start believing, if you’re a critic.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. ThinRedLine gave [word unclear] dollars. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Thomas, could you speak a little about the concept of the will, and the triumph of the will?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, I think I just answered that just then. Yeah, like politics is led by minorities and gone are the days where nationalists sit there and are frustrated with what the Liberal Party is doing, you know what the centre Right Party is doing. Well, I think gone are those days where we’re sitting there going:

 

“Oh, if only we elect the right guy, if only we got our guy into the Liberal Party, then our guy could be constrained by the jews instead of an enemy being constrained by the jews!”

 

It’s like, gone are those days. It’s like, no, we need a completely new system. We need to be absolutely unapologetic about our views! The Triumph of the Will is about that solar morality, meaning we’re not going to conform to the morality of the people that are destroying us. We don’t believe in this universal morality! That’s what Triumph of the Will is about. It’s a Nietzschean concept. It’s a Hitlerian concept. It’s a Spanglerian concept. It’s a Heideggerian concept. It’s this idea that the will is manifest on the material plane through having a divine spirit. Through having this spirit of not worrying about what all these neutrals or these normies, all these people that won’t lift a finger to help. Don’t worry about what they think right now! Don’t try to conform to them. Don’t try to reform their current situation. You have to inspire!

 

I mean, the shortest way to answer the question is actually watch the movie. The Germans made a movie called Triumph of the Will and Leni Riefenstahl*, or however you pronounce her name.

 

[* Helene Bertha Amalie “Leni” Riefenstahl (22 August 1902 – 8 September 2003) was a German film-maker, photographer, and actress. She is considered one of the most controversial personalities in film history. Regarded by many critics as an “innovative film-maker and creative aesthete”, she is also criticised for her works in the service of propaganda during the NS era. A talented swimmer and an artist, Riefenstahl became interested in dancing during her childhood, taking lessons and performing across all Europe. After seeing a promotional poster for the 1924 film Mountain of Destiny, she was inspired to move into acting and between 1925 and 1929 starred in five successful motion pictures. Riefenstahl became one of the few women in Germany to direct a film during the Weimar era when, in 1932, she decided to try directing with her own film, The Blue Light. In the 1930s, she directed the NS propaganda films Triumph of the Will (1935) and Olympia (1938), resulting in world-wide attention and acclaim. The films are widely considered two of the most effective and technically innovative propaganda films ever made. Adolf Hitler closely collaborated with Riefenstahl during the production of at least three important NS films, and they formed a friendly relationship. Wikipedia]

 

It’s an absolutely fantastic movie! Because what it shows is that this really little tiny movement of like 20 guys at a pub, or, when Hitler joined seven guys, this really tiny movement went from just these little pub meetings where they’re saying:

 

“Germany’s being betrayed, how are we going to fix this problem?”

 

They went from that to a million man demonstration and leadership meetings. And they built a whole new cast of men of Black Shirts that are like:

 

“Okay, we’re the new rulers of society! We’re not doing the system that you’re doing where a fucking bunch of fat primary school teachers are in charge of the country and a bunch of paedophiles and crooks!”

 

Because that’s currently who runs the country. You know, just these weak, disgusting, coward men. And if they’re not weak, disgusting coward men, they’re out outright degenerate, deviant freaks! They’re freaks! That’s why they’re pushing Drag Queen Story Hour and all this stuff.

 

And so they actually have more of a triumph of their will, which is again, not a universal will. There’s no universal will. There is a universal life force. But the will is particularism. The will is particularism!

 

What I mean by that is its defined by the individual kind. We are a kind. We are an Aryan spirit, we’re a White spirit, we’re a European spirit. And they are either a jewish spirit or they are a demonic spirit. It doesn’t matter how you describe their spirit, but they actually are trying to triumph their will over us! And we can’t just be submissive to their will and try to work within their system. We have to just completely ignore it. You have no power over us! You know, you. And what army basically is the position we need to have. But it takes a long time to get to the point where we can actualise that and we have to play the game as best we can politically to not get your head chopped off while you’re on the process of the triumph of the will.

 

I mean, rebellions, I think you, I think in the Bible, in Romans, I think it talks about how the jews always would rebel against the Romans and they would usually get to about 400 men and then people would start getting their heads chopped off and getting crucified. And Jesus represented this figure that they weren’t too worried about because he only had about 12 guys really following him. And that whole story of Jesus’s jewish rebellion or rebellion against the jews, however you want to look at it, that whole story is an interesting lesson in how to form a rebellion that lasts within your life or how to form a rebellion that lasts beyond your life. And that’s an example of someone that martyred themselves to create an after life rebellion against whatever those ruling systems were, the Pharisees and Roman rule.

 

And we have to think about our revolution against the system as a triumph of our will, not a will of necessarily the Israelites or the people in Judea, despite some people’s particular versions of Christianity. We have to think about the triumph of our national will. There’s a British will, there’s an Australian will, there’s an American will and we have to rebel against the jewish tyranny and the demonic tyranny that rules over us. And not not concede to it. So that wasn’t a short answer, but you get the gist.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. It Was Made Up, gave $5. Thanks so much. Said:

 

“The Starmer regime have announced plans to scrap trial by jury. Do you think this will go through or it will backfire on them?”

 

I’ve already mentioned this, but do I think it’ll go through? It may do, it may not. But what I’ll say is this, it will be something that will backfire.

 

And I think this is the kind of thing which is going to ensure that Reform win the next general election. It’s just going to be another thing, thing that puts a nail in their coffin. I’m hoping that in the next election Reform win and the Reform win by such an incredible degree that both of the traditional parties are smashed!

 

But yeah, I think people will be very unhappy about this. Yuri in the States gave $15.

 

Thank you so much and said:

 

“Victory is coming!”

 

He then gave another $50. Thank you so much!

 

And said:

 

“Welcome home, Thomas.”

 

Well, thank you so much! And another, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I got two of Yuri’s letters. Thank you, Yuri, for your letters from the States. Appreciate it.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you.

 

Thomas Sewell: I haven’t had a chance to respond obviously to everyone. But yeah, I got in the last week that I was in prison, I got a letter from Coach, from Coach Finstock, from Full House. I got a letter from Lucas Gage. I got a letter from a whole bunch of guys in Germany, people from the British movement. I think here in the UK. I got letters from a lot of different US people.

 

So yeah, just thanks, thanks for everyone that’s watching that sending a letter. I appreciate it. No matter how the majority of the letters I got were like:

 

“Hey, Tom, I don’t usually write letters. I don’t know what to say, but keep your chin up. Thanks, mate. Keep going.”

 

And it’s like, that’s all you have to say sometimes. That’s all you have to say. I mean, cost you about two bucks and a little bit of your time. And it makes all the difference being in there. And just reading that, it’s really important to write to political prisoners. It’s really important! Just keep them engaged.

 

Mark Collett: I would have definitely written to you if I thought the letter would have got there, because every person I’ve written to, it’s always been sort of intercepted.

 

Thomas Sewell: Don’t stress, Mark. I know that you’re with me in spirit! [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: No, because literally all of my stuff that I’ve sent to people and, … When James Allchurch [Sven Longshanks] was in jail, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Mark Collett: He was ringing me so he could make several phone calls a day and I would always get the call saying:

 

“You’re about to receive a call from HMRC, whatever, if you consent to this call and consent to being recorded, hold the line. If not, hang up now.”

 

And I would always speak to him. And then the calls stopped. And the last we heard word, he’s banned from getting letters from you. He’s banned from calling you. Sven was banned from getting letters. We didn’t even try with Sam. Because Laura was going in and seeing him.

 

But if you can actually get letters in there, do send me Joel’s address. If they’re not fussy in Australia, I’d happily write to you guys. But it’s just one of those things where my stuff has always been sort of blocked to a really extreme degree. I mean, we always do a Christmas card for political prisoners as well. In the UK, we’ve done Christmas card things. And I’ve even been told that simple Christmas cards with my name on them get withheld and at the end they get given like a sack of post with like my Christmas cards in. Which is just ludicrous because a Christmas card from Mark, the wife, Sophia and the boy, you wouldn’t think that was., … But they do it with everything that I send. But if I can get something to Joel, I definitely will. And I’m just sharing on my Telegram what Tom sent me, which is how you can write to Joel. So please do. Yuri and the States gave another $15. Thank you so much for your generosity tonight. Said:

 

“Future interview on PWR, the executive director of the American Freedom Party, JF, thanks.”

 

Well look, if you want somebody on the show, write to them and get them on the show. I’m happy to have different people on board. So yeah, I’ll do that. Thank you so much! Mr. Choli gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Greetings from the occupied old south in Judeo-America. Happy Thanksgiving Mark and Thomas. Thomas, you’re definitely the coolest Aussie I know.”

 

He is pretty cool! Maryland White Vanguard gave $5. Thanks so much. He said:

 

“On a personal level you’re a true inspiration in the National Socialist scene. From watching yourself, other NSN members and also members from within White Vanguard, you’ve all pushed me to do better.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Saturn 5 gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Hi Thomas, I wonder if your genetic ancestry would make it easier for you to adapt to the UK cold and damp and than it was for us to be 10 pound immigrants to Australia.”

 

Do you think you could adapt to our damp weather Thomas?

 

[1:54:20]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, I think I could. Yeah. All four of my grandparents are English. All from Whitehaven and Lancaster.

 

Mark Collett: And he goes on to say:

 

“To get fitter and consistently trained to get more consistently active on the streets and truly fight for my beliefs that the only future for the United Kingdom to succeed is through that of a National Socialist government. Hell victory. And thank you for all you do.”

 

Well, thank you for the $15 and I really appreciate the Superchats. The Resident Baker gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Qu Evening Mark. Great to see Thomas back on the show and I’m pleased to see that he’s doing so well.”

 

Thank you. Anastasia411Comrade gave a hundred dollars. Thank you so much for your generosity. And just remember I’m saying this because obviously Anastasia gave a hundred dollars, but just remember this, people who like the show and make donations, right? This goes to anyone who makes donations, whether you give a hundred dollars or whether you’re one of the guys, …

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s a lot of money to donate. That’s massive!

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. But if people do that you can write to me at Mark@thefallofwesternman.com. And to anyone that donates or is a fan of the show, if you are in my area and you call me, you know I will meet you for sort of coffee, for dinner etc., and you know if people do give big donations and they’d like a personal email, or a personal thank you or if you’re just one of the people who regularly donates, doesn’t matter how much, but if you write to me and obviously if you give an outstanding amount and you’d like a book or something like that signed copy, you know I’m always happy to meet and personally thank anyone that has made a financial contribution. But Anastasia gave a hundred dollars. Thank you so much for your generosity and says:

 

“White man fight back! Thank you both for all you do. Glad you are free. Bless and stay strong and never give up! Less than 2% of the world population is White people of reproductive age. No, sorry. Less than 2% of the world’s population is White reproductive age females. We are the minority. We must secure the existence of our people and the future for White children. Hailing from the colony of Canada, Commonwealth unite!”

 

Well thank you so much! Yes the White Commonwealth unite. We the proper original colonies that White men set up for a White world. Yes, definitely!

 

And I really feel for you guys in Canada. I’d made a post actually about Canada the other day. It’s amazing! Around 40% of all babies born in Canada are born to parents where one or more of the couple are foreigners. And the amazing thing is that statistic is almost identical to the statistic in the UK. In the UK it’s slightly less. It’s 39.5% of all babies are born to couples where one or more were born overseas. And it’s just amazing that all of these countries Australia, Canada, the UK, we’re all of the same stock and we all face exactly the same racial nightmare. And thank you so much for your support Anastasia. It means a lot.

 

DerCherusca gave $10. Thank you very much. She said:

 

“Hello to you Thomas, it’s great to see you back. Defeat never, victory forever!”

 

Well, thank you so much! ScaredyCat gave $8. Thank you very much. Said:

 

“Hi Thomas and Mark. Congratulations on being free from prison. Humanity is now seeing through all the false misdirection paid by the filthy rich and starting to unite in fighting for goodness which in modern times is Australia for the Aussies, just like Gaza for the Palestinians.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Yes, we all need to be free of our Zionist oppressors. Dawny B gave $20. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thank you. Is it just me who constantly battles with Entropy?”

 

I know that Entropy can be a little bit difficult now if Entropy won’t let it work, it’s sometimes because some banks have started blocking Entropy, so you have to actually call them and say, can I please have it unblocked?

 

So if you’re having a problem with Entropy, please do persevere, because it is the best way to get money out to me. You know, obviously people have been very generous on Rumble. We’re going to be doing the Rumble Superchats in a moment. But sometimes I’ve heard reports of Rumble sometimes not paying out. So thank you to however you donated the but you know, Entropy is run by a nationalist couple as a way of sort of doing financial processing. So the processing fees there do go to a wonderful couple who have got a number of wonderful White children. So thank you to those who use Entropy.

 

Dungeon 72 gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Qu the video about the organisation was great until it got to the rap. White people jumping around like primates was disgusting to see! Rap is a black origin and it’s retrogressive. So why do you guys promote it?”

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ll answer that. Because I watched your review on it and, …

 

Mark Collett: I was quite positive about the rap!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: I was less positive about the drinking because I didn’t like that.

 

[1:59:25]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah because I watched your review of the Summer one as well and I heard your criticism.

 

But yeah, look, my concern. I was in prison, so I didn’t have any editorial specs. My concern was not that the rap was part of it because that was obviously part of the weekend. My concern was the interview with Jack Eltis was mis-timed when it was placed in the documentary.

 

So we’ve got Jack Eltis, the New South Wales State leader, talking about how what we’re trying to do is build a cultural revival of White Australia, and that should have been put in the documentary during something other than the rap. Like basically anything but the rap!

 

But I think the two young guys that. Well, actually, Hagen’s not that young. I think he’s almost my age, but he just, He’s got real good collagen in his skin or something [chuckling] because he looks like 20. But they’re two young guys that made the doco. Yeah, that’s my only criticism. I actually haven’t said that to them personally yet. But yeah, the timing of that interview made me cringe because that should have been put during, like anything like powerlifting, could have been done during the folk music because we had Anglo Bard, he played a whole bunch of folk music for the women and children. I don’t think there was enough of that in the documentary. I know it’s not as exciting, but again, I think the juxtaposition of the powerlifting, the march, the demonstration, there was a lot. There was not enough, like mums and bubs and that sort of stuff in the doco. It got a really tiny little bit in the doco, but there was probably 30 babies running around at one point. Like it was huge! Like, the mums and bubs thing was really big. There was heaps of toddlers, heaps of babies. There was probably almost, 20 mothers there, which for us, that’s probably the most we’ve had at a single meeting. You know, I think that that deserved more than like five seconds in the documentary.

 

You know, people might criticise me, think I’m a moderate all of a sudden. But look, I do think the juxtaposition is important. It can’t all just be organised fascist, Black Shirt hype edit! You know what I mean? That’s good. But it is good to show that there’s another side to it as well. There’s that, let’s build community. Let’s engage with this.

 

So regarding rap music, being black, I personally don’t like rap music. Like, I personally am not really a fan of it. I can tolerate it when I’m training, like if it’s on in the gym and it’s like White rap. I like all the [word unclear] stuff. Growing up, I didn’t mind Eminem that much. You know, I don’t like the African stuff. It’s never appealed to me. People that say rap is inherently African. Yeah, it definitely has come originated out of that subculture in recent years.

 

But I think poetry is inherently Aryan. And the presentation at poetry has always changed. And definitely rap is definitely like street poetry. It’s definitely a lower class version of poetry.

 

And I think that it’s better, … Like what we have in that scenario is we have guys, working class guys who have made that themselves. Like Saxon, he’s a musician, he’s a professional musician. You know, the [word unclear] guys like all these White rappers that are forming around the political scene. A lot of guys criticise me. I don’t know if you remember four years ago, I spent a lot of time with Jazz Seabee. I don’t know if you remember Jazz, he’s a particular character of interest and he was trying to do rap himself and he made a few rap videos. And a lot of people were criticising, a lot of people saying:

 

“This is garbage, this is crap! Why is Tom promoting this stuff?”

 

And my position has always been that almost anything is better than nothing. That promoting our guys, even if they’re not all the way there yet, or even if their style is not something you like. I mean, I said to Jazz to his face:

 

“Look, I’m not actually a fan of rap, but I think what you’re doing is like starting to move in the right direction.”

 

I mean, Aussie, the Aussie rap scene is really small and it’s not very talented. And I think the guys that we’ve got in the org that are doing rap, I think they’re actually better than the most famous Australian rapper, which is a guy called Cursor.

 

And so that’s like so much White youth in Australia, White radical youth, they love Cursor. I don’t know these days because he’s probably old now and out, but when I was a kid, all the kind of eshays, all the lads, all the kind of White fighters, your upper class kids, they don’t listen to that crap, you know what I mean?

 

But at the same time, the upper class kids, you know what are they doing for the country? You know, they go to the private school and then they join the Liberal Party and they realise that it’s all gay, so they just focus on making money and enriching themselves and living in Toorak.

 

And it’s like very few of them actually stick their neck out for their race and actually fight back when they’re attacked or spat on or denigrated. So this idea that we’re going to alienate the White youth. So I appreciated your comments, Mark. I know you’re not a fan of rap as well, but you defended it in principle. I just think the timing of that was absolutely misplaced. That was my only criticism.

 

[2:04:41]

 

Mark Collett: No, no. Look, what I said was this. I actually think, I’m very different to what people would expect because I enjoy computer games and I also enjoy sports. I also enjoy the gym. And I also understand that some kids read comics. I don’t read comics, but some kids do. Some kids like going to the movie, some kids like watching anime. Now if I had an unlimited pot of money, I would produce nationalist anime, nationalist comics, nationalist rap music, nationalist computer games. Because I think we should be involved in all forms of propaganda.

 

And if there are White street kids out there who are tough kids that want to be in sort of a White kind of street movement and they like rap, we should produce something that reaches out to them. Like, if there’s White autistic nerds sat in their bedrooms and they love playing, like, PubG, well, I’ll sit and play PubG with them. Just like when there was White guys, when we were doing the 10k hardcore assault courses, I said:

 

“Who wants to come and do one of them with me?”

 

And there should be room for all that.

 

My only criticism, it was the only minor criticism throughout the whole documentary, is when I see sort of young lads, like, heavily intoxicated, doing that thing where they’re charging into each other, sort of like doing that mosh pit thing. I don’t know, to me, nationalism has to retain its discipline at all times. And I don’t like to see young people, I hate young people smoking weed, and I don’t like to see young people drinking. Simply because throughout my time in the movement, nothing has caused more trouble, more fallouts and more animus between people than these events where everyone’s having a beer and at first it’s all fun and games, and the next minute somebody’s punching each other or, … And it’s those kind of things that lead to division. But I didn’t have a problem with the rap itself, although about half of the people watching my review were raging in the comments section because I didn’t call it out. But to be honest, I thought the guys had a good flow. It was very, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I was in the leadership. We set up a leadership area, like a room that we could have peace and quiet to plan the rest of the weekend. And I was in there, not protesting the rap. I’m not that anti-rap, but I was in there, not aware of the exact timing of who was up and who was doing it. And one of the other guys in the leadership team came running into the leadership tent, so to speak, and was just like:

 

“Guys, you got to get out here. This is insane!”

 

And I was like:

 

“What? What’s going on?”

 

They’re like:

 

“Oh, Saxon and the boys are up there. It’s actually really good!”

 

I was like:

 

“No way!”

 

I was like, because I’ve heard it all online. I’m like:

 

“Yeah, it’s all right.”

 

When I’m in the gym and I support them, right? I support them. I love that they’re cultural creators, regardless of what kind of varying degrees of cultural creation you think that is. I love the fact that they’re actually fucking doing it instead of just criticising and talking shit! You know what I mean?

 

And so I left the leadership tent and I went over [chuckling] and the energy was crazy! Like, the video doesn’t do it justice. Like, it was really good live. I was so impressed with it! You know, a lot of the time, amateur musicians are really good in a recording. When you hear it with all the edits and with all the audio changes, with all the manipulations, it sounds pretty decent over the Internet. But then when you see it live, you’re like:

 

“Nah, these guys aren’t good!”

 

It was like the opposite with this situation. I was really impressed. And, yeah, all the wiggers were loving it. All the White lads were loving it.

 

So, look, people criticising it, I understand the criticism. You know, if you’ve got an aristocratic soul, then it’s beneath you to listen to that. Sure. Good on you. One of my favourite quotes is Teddy Roosevelt:

 

“It’s not the critic who counts!”

 

And everyone should look up that quote. It’s called, it’s not the critic who counts, Teddy Roosevelt.

 

Basically, if you’re not producing something better, then I don’t want to hear it. You know what I mean? People that criticised back in the day about jazz stuff, I think Anglo Bard was actually one of them that said to me about how:

 

“It’s no good, you know why are you doing this?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Well, where’s your stuff?”

 

And Anglo Bard here in Australia has produced a huge amount of folk music. And he’s produced his own stuff. He’s recreated a lot of stuff. He did the Mums and Bubs thing at the seminar. Sorry, at the Nationals weekend. So all these Aussie classics, you know, Waltzing Matilda and Home Amongst the Gum Trees and all these kind of Aussie folk musics. And also he did some old English stuff as well, like, what is it? Oak and Ash and Thorn, I think, and a whole bunch of those kind of old English country songs. It was an awesome vibe. It was a really good vibe.

 

And so there’s someone that criticises, goes:

 

“This isn’t my style.”

 

But then he’s got 15, 20 years of doing his own thing and producing it and putting it out there and building an audience of his work. And so that’s valid criticism.

 

[2:10:00]

 

 

But most people are talentless. You know, most people are completely talentless. I’m not a musician. I’ve never played a musical instrument. I regret it. It’s sad. I just wasn’t educated that way. It wasn’t prioritized in my development as a young person. But, yeah, I mean, all these people that want to criticise it’s like:

 

“Okay, where’s your song? Where’s your YouTube channel? Where’s your rap? Where’s your anti-rap? Where’s your classical music?”

 

You know, like sitting there, going:

 

“Well, I only listen to Wagner, actually.”

 

Yeah, it’s a gross culture that’s forming this. If you believe in the folk, if you believe in the folk, then you’ve got to elevate the folk you’ve got to elevate the folk. Don’t just tell people that are doing it in innately:

 

“Oh, you’re doing it wrong. You’re doing it wrong!”

 

So, all right, step up, be a leader, show them how it’s done. Because we had, as I said, we had three different styles. We had the Aussie folk music, the classics, country music. We had the Aussie rap and we had the Aussie, like, old school skinhead White power stuff, which was really good as well. They did a really good job. And the one thing I will slightly disagree with you on, I understand your, I don’t want to call it trauma, but I understand your apprehension, your serious and responsible apprehension to like the mosh pit and the fighting and the drinking. I 100% know where you’re going with that. And I know that the British scene and the American scene and the early 90s, 80s, 90s and, 20,000 scene in Australia was destroyed by that subculture. It existed around that subculture, but it ultimately degenerated into nothing.

 

Like in Australia, there’s barely any skinheads left. There’s barely any 1.0. That culture just doesn’t really exist anymore. Like there was an ISD concert I think, three years ago, and I think they got 100, like 100 guys go to the concert and you know, they used to get thousands. They used to get thousands. So it’s kind of died out a bit the subculture. They kept the flame lit, certainly. I’m not trying to denigrate them, but certainly if all you do is party, if all you do is party, if all you do is get drunk, yeah, it just leads to nothing but problems. And I do agree with you on that regard.

 

But what I disagree with is these boys, they put in a lot of work! Like, they put in a lot of work. Like that was a big weekend. It was months of training and practice and activism leading up to it. A lot of these guys have done a lot of time on the gun, so to speak. Like they’ve been in the Org for two years, three years, and it’s very rare that they get a chance to sort of let their hair down and be a bit of a spastic, you know what I mean? And I was in the army and we had a rule and it was really simple. You get drunk. We got drunk almost every weekend when I was in the army, which is not a good culture. You don’t want to get drunk every weekend. It probably should have been once a month. But we got drunk every weekend when I was in the army! But we earned it. We earned it. And the rule in the army was that you can get as pissed as you want as long as you put in and as long as you sweat it out the next day. So we would do a 20k pack march in Darwin, 34 degree heat, 5 o’ clock in the morning on a Friday. And then we’d knock off from work shortly after lunch at some point and we would just get blind drunk [chuckling] and punch on and issues happen. Absolutely! I was privy to a lot of issues with that.

 

And then Saturday would be swimming, we’d be in the gym Saturday morning, sauna, swim in the gym, get a pump, have a big breakie, you know what I mean? Hang out and then maybe back on the piss that afternoon again. And that’s what soldiers do. So and it’s never going to change, Mark, that’s where I disagree with you. It’s never going to change. There’s always going to be like a Dionysian, kind of Apollo spirit, I think, within like military men.

 

And I think we do have to balance the kind of discipline because like we demonstrated this, the discipline, I think over the course of the weekend, I think we displayed that really clear. It was very disciplined weekend.

 

But then I think at the end of that, you’ve got to have in that specific instance because I want to recreate all the original European calendar, like the yearly holidays. I want to recreate them. And like spring and summer, for example, are fertility ceremonies. So they’re outdoors and we get all the girls in nice dresses and we have a little bit of punch and it’s an opportunity to get drunk, but in that kind of environment. Whereas this is like peak middle of winter, this is a different kind of festival.

 

I don’t want to recreate the Northman like and larp, but you know, in the Northman where they’re all getting drunk and they like pretend to be wolves and they’re like before they go, like a war band. Have you seen the movie The Northman? Robert Eggers?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, it was all right.

 

[2:15:11]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. I mean, it was a bit larpy. It was a bit larpy. But what I think it addressed was this innate kind of even primitive European spirit, this animalism and trying to engage and invoke the war band.

 

And so I think that Aussies and Brits, we’re very similar. I don’t think no matter how straight edge we want to be as a civilisation, I don’t know if we’re ever going to be able to or ever should fully buck alcohol. You know, if we should ever like try to do like a prohibition, I don’t think it’s going to last. I agree with you around weed. I think weed we got to be very careful with as a substance and obviously other drugs even more.

 

Mark Collett: You don’t let people smoke weed at your events?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no, no, absolutely not! No, no, no! And people have been in the past removed from the organisation for getting high at events.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, that’s good. I mean, we have a complete like, ban on that. I don’t even like, I can’t stand weed. So yeah, no, I mean, look, it’s up to you. It’s how you run it.

 

What I mean is, like there were so many parts of that documentary which were like Triumph of the Will, but then you have like that little bit like Romper Stomper.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Like at the end. And kind of like, for me, I’m much more drawn to the Triumph of the Will bit than I am to the Romper Stomp a bit.

 

Thomas Sewell: Absolutely!

 

Mark Collett: One thing I’ll say because we have to move on because we still got a lot of Superchats. I don’t want to keep you here forever, but I will say this, and people probably aren’t going to expect me to say this, but Thomas has got a good point here. Because when I saw them in the first, in Summer Nationals singing Waltzing Matilda and then I see them doing the rapper music, I actually wonder. And like, I live in an area where there’s a lot of working class young lads. If you played Waltzing Matilda to those young lads or you played Lad Cartel to those young lads, which would appeal the most? And it’s going to be Lad Cartel. And you might not like it, but that rap music will appeal to more young lads on the street than any of these. Second World War sort of, or First World War. Like we marched off to the First World War singing songs about our sweetheart. That isn’t going to appeal to tough young kids on the street. Whereas the Lad Cartel stuff is. Now, is it influenced by black culture? Yes.

 

But if you marry it with pro-White lyrics and use that as a tool to recruit tough young lads off the street who understand the racial problem because they live with it every day, is it a bad thing? No! You know, so I don’t see it as the black culture subverting nationalism. I see it as nationalism subverting what’s being pushed upon our kids and then bringing them back to us. And that’s really the last thing I want to say on that. I think that I’m not saying you guys shouldn’t sing Waltzing Matilda, but, yeah, most young kids would definitely listen to Lad Cartel before they would a CD of not that anyone listens to CDs anymore. It tells you how old I am, but you know what I mean?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Bloody CDs, what am I talking about? I better go to bed before I, like, collapse from being too old! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Before you move on, quickly, it was actually really funny. A whole bunch of guys, early 40s, actually love the rap because they were straight street kids, you know, 25 years ago. There’s guys of upper middle class now and they’re tradies and they got a wife and kids in a nice house. They were there, like in the mosh pit at the rap and I was shocked! I was standing there like:

 

“Fuck, he’s feeling it!”

 

And then I went up after them and I was like:

 

“What was that all about?”

 

And then they were saying:

 

“Oh, I’ve never told you this, Tom, but when I was 15, I loved Eminem!”

 

You know what I mean? Like, they loved that shit! So, yeah, we didn’t all grow up with Wagner, I’ll tell you that.

 

Mark Collett: The weird thing about that Lad Cartel stuff is its got the sort of same flow as well of what I would call British sort of street rap. It’s not sort of like American hip hop. It’s quite interesting and I definitely listen to more of it and I think it has its place.

 

Anyway, DerChurkesa gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Qu hello to you Thomas, it’s great to see you back.”

 

Oh, we’ve already read that one. Thank you so much! Camarade gave $3. Thank you so much!:

 

“Always positive. Mark and Tom call them out like I do every day. However, beware of the flying monkeys. Know who to trust. Camarade.”

 

Thank you so much! Dilbert Roof gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thank you both for tirelessly fighting for our people. Hail Victory from Canada.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Aunt Sally gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“We’ll be watching on catch up. Thank you, Mark and Thomas.”

 

Thank you so much! Remember, if you are watching on catch up, you can donate that way as well. We’re moving over now to Rumble for the Rumble Superchats. Thank you so much! For everyone who Superchatted. It Was Made Up gifted five subscriptions. Thank you so much! WhiteBitchTripleSix gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“I’m happy to see that Tom is out. We are able to send books to Joel through the mail or will they be confiscated?”

 

I should pretty much imagine it depends what book, wouldn’t you? Is that how it works? Depending on the book?

 

[2:20:33]

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re getting Superchats from WhiteBitchTripleSix! [chuckling] Just hearing you read that out is fucking hilarious!

 

Well, thank you, WhiteBitchTripleSix. Send whatever you want!

 

Mark Collett: Send whatever you want indeed.

 

Mark Collett: I’m not gonna follow up with anything like that because if the wife’s listening, she might stab me when I [chuckling] Iggs22 gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Hey Mark, thanks for reading my health messages. It’s something I’m getting into and studying the importance of sunlight is my next agenda. Thanks, Iggs.”

 

Well, I can tell you about sunlight. Sunlight’s really good! It makes you feel positive. And generally speaking, and I’ve had a lot of pushback over this, but only from people who don’t know what they’re talking about. White people, all people, synthesize vitamin D from sunlight through their skin.

 

And that’s why black people who move to colder, darker climates because of the melanin in their skin, they develop rickets because they don’t get enough vitamin D. They actually need to be in a more sunny environment. White people obviously don’t want to be in a sunny environment because it burns them, but they do need sunlight. But because we live in northern climates, we get vitamin D from the sun, and it does make us feel positive. It’s why if you work in an office or you don’t see much sun, I always recommend potentially, like, going on the sunbeds for six 12 minutes a week because it does help with your general health, vitamin D production and the quality of your skin.

 

Now, obviously, you don’t want to be going on the sunbeds, like some gypsy bride who ends up looking like she’s from the Indian subcontinent. Sunlight and UV light is good in moderation. And it’s basically why we are pale. We are pale because we absorb the sunlight.

 

And as I said, black people who move to European countries, you can look this up, end up developing rickets unless they take vitamin D supplements because they don’t take in enough sunlight. There’s some health information for you, if you didn’t know that, Thomas.

 

So I am now Dr. Mark.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I work occasionally, over the last four or five years as a roofer. So I’ve got a lot of experience with the sun being on a roof.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Australia, the sun is especially harsh in Australia. Australia, they say there’s a hole in the ozone over Melbourne. They say all sorts of, … I don’t know what to believe.

 

But what I will tell you is when I was in Darwin, I never got sunburnt, not once. When I was up near the equator when I was based in the army up in Darwin, I did not get sunburnt and I was in the sun all day, every day.

 

But in Melbourne, you just burn to a crisp, just, 20 minutes, 30 minutes sometimes in the summer and you’re just fried and you’re peeling the next day. It’s really bad! But what I’ve done to condition against that being on the roof is I’ll go shirtless, no hat, nothing, for as many hours in the morning as I can.

 

And then around lunchtime, I’ll go full long sleeve, full hat. I don’t use sunscreen. I don’t believe in sunscreen. I don’t think it’s natural. My missus has made some homemade ones out of like, beef tallow and some additives. But I know it sounds silly, but it did work. And I did lend it to the guys at work and they all used it and they loved it! It was just so expensive to make. Well, it’s very refined beef tallow. You don’t smell like cow!

 

Mark Collett: You [chuckling] sort of smell like you’ve just come off the griller.

 

Thomas Sewell: It doesn’t have a particular beefy smell to it. It’s just really purified refined fat. So it’s a pure oil. It’s a pure fat. So you can’t, you don’t smell like meat. You can just smell the additives to it. I can’t remember what she put in it, but I don’t know, who knows? Coconut something, you know, zinc something else.

 

But yeah, I just don’t believe in sunscreen, full stop. I don’t wear it. And I got to the point last summer. I’ve been fried a few times this time because I haven’t been in my normal routine.

 

But yeah, I really enjoy just conditioning the skin as much as possible in the mornings. And then I just avoid that afternoon sun.

 

And I think that that makes sense, like when you study. I mean, the Mediterraneans, like a lot of them have that culture where they just don’t go in the sun during the day, like during the peak hours of the day.

 

And when I studied a little bit of the founding sort of woke culture around Australia, I can’t remember what I read, but it was something that they did it in two big shifts, similar to, in Mediterranean Europe that they would, unless they worked in a factory, or a shearing shed. But the founding stock of Australia, they did huge amount of work in the morning. Like they’ll wake up at like 4:30, 5 o’clock, work till about 11, and then they won’t come out again until like 3:30, 4 o’clock in the afternoon and work all the way till sundown, which in the middle of summer is like almost 9 o’ clock at night. It’s like 8:45 in the middle of summer. So you can still get about four or five hours of work done in the morning and four or five hours done in the afternoon. So that’s how a lot of farmers worked in Australia, because otherwise you just get destroyed.

 

But also, I don’t believe in cancer. I don’t think cancer. What’s going on? Feds are here. Can you see that vibration? Must be the washing machine or something. That’s crazy! That is crazy! Can you see that the screen is just shaking. I might go tell them off and get them to turn it off. That’s crazy!

 

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But yeah, I don’t believe in cancer. Like, I don’t think we’ve had cancer for a long time. I think it’s like a new age thing. I think it’s like bad diet. I know, look, people might be offended because they’ve had family die of cancer, but what I’m saying., …

 

Mark Collett: No, it’s not that. We are two and a half hours in and I could answer all your questions, but it’s just, how long do you want the show to go?

 

Look, the reason we get cancer more now is because essentially when you’re born, you have the upper limit of human life, the longest anyone’s ever lived is about 125 years. And the theoretical maximum of human Life is around 150.

 

Now, almost every cell in your body has the ability to become cancerous. And cancer is a complex mix of genetics and environmental factors. And generally speaking, if you have good genetics, cancer will come out later in life.

 

So the more times your cells replicate, the more likely it is for the cancer to come out. And if you’ve got very good genetics, you will probably never get cancer. However, if you’re unlucky with your genetics, cancer will come out earlier.

 

But you can bring the cancer out or you can bring your cancer date forward, if you like, by ingesting carcinogenic substances like tobacco, processed food. But there is a powerful genetic component. It’s not just the environment. That’s why babies get cancer. Not because they’ve eaten a ton of Haribo or been drinking Coca Cola and smoking 40 a day. It’s because unfortunately, some people are born and just lose the genetic lottery.

 

Now the other thing is some people have super genetics. So you know your aunt Deidre who smoked 40 a day since she was 15 and died at 98 without getting cancer. That’s because she had mega genetics.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. [words unclear] He enlists in the army at 13, fought in the Boer War and smoked a pipe. He didn’t smoke cigarettes that much. He smoked a pipe. So pure tobacco until he died of throat cancer at 93.

 

Mark Collett: But the thing with cancer is the longer you live, the more likely., … And look, there’s a lot of people will say:

 

“Oh, we’ve never been so unhealthy!”

 

Well, we’ve probably never ate so much crap. But to say we’ve never been so unhealthy is probably in a way a little bit of BS, because life expectancy has never been higher.

 

And if you live, if you lived all the way to 150 by the time you got there you’d probably be riddled with cancer, because you know you’re pushing it to the very limit.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s why, …

 

Mark Collett: So many people used to die, … But you know, so hunter gatherers, the average life expectancy of a hunter gatherer was 31.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: The average life expectancy now of a female is about 82 and of a male it’s about 79.

 

Thomas Sewell: They say that about hunter gatherers, but I think there’s an issue with the statistics because they include all the infant mortality.

 

Mark Collett: I think that’s how it always is. It’s the average life expectancy.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, if you only work out the average based on someone that lives past the age of two, we’ve always lived to at least 70, on like on average. But it’s because something like 40% of babies died before 2, it skews the statistics down.

 

Mark Collett: It would be highly unlikely for hunter gatherers to live long lives just because of the harshness of their environment as well. The amount of injuries you’d pick up, lack of medical care. You know, when you’re in that kind of environment you are much more like today we live longer because generally life is more comfortable. It’s one of the reasons why people don’t rebel.

 

Thomas Sewell: Too comfortable.

 

Mark Collett: Too comfortable. Yeah, but cancer is one of those things that unfortunately it does affect babies. You do have children who are sort of like six month old baby can have cancer, he’s only ever been breastfed. So it can’t just be environment.