Joel Davis: Okay, we are live. It is the 5th of October, 2025. Week off for Blair this week. He’s had a lot on, but it’s all good because we got Jacob back on the show. Often requested, the acting leader of White Australia, Jacob Hersant. How are you doing this evening?

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m going well. Just suffering because of the change of daylight savings. We lost an hour. So I’m just sad, just sad the Germans Instituted that during the First World War. Apparently a lot of people have car accidents when it like changes over. And I don’t know, it’s like an interesting argument, like either way, whether or not having more light daylight or having more people die, like, what’s like, more worthy? What do you think, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: I personally don’t really give a fuck! I really don’t give a fuck!

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s not something you’re gonna die on a hill for.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: You’re not gonna put that on the party policies.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: Repeal daylight savings. That’s our main issue.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is like the main problem with like a lot of people with political opinions. I had this thought this week that everyone who’s. Who cares about politics and is like actively involved in politics, but their motivation isn’t racism, that it’s like something else, something wrong with them. Like, why would you actually care about politics otherwise? Like, it’s a whole bunch of debates over minutia, like whether we should have daylight savings or not, or like what tax brackets should have to pay, what percentage and so on. It’s just like instant snooze fest for me. Like, yeah, it’s all pretty gay and, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Like talking about bean collections and things like that. There was this. I can’t remember his name, but it was a British nationalist who was criticising a radical group in Britain and he’s saying real politics is talking about bin collection. And the issues that affect everyday Britons. And he just completely missed the point that politics is really about like the main issues like identity and national survival and all these kind of things. He also had like a really funny accent and everyone just used to meme him, but I think he’s just disappeared now. I haven’t seen any of his videos for almost a decade now.

 

Joel Davis: This is a problem that Gerard Rennick has. Gerard Rennick has a lot of good policies, like particularly his economic policies because he has pretty nationalist economic policies. And his policy on immigration, even though he is cucked on race, his policy on immigration is actually better than any of the other parties I Believe. It was like a hundred thousand maximum. And the policy of like One Nation is Net Zero. And Net Zero is still like a quarter of a million people in a year because that’s how many people leave on average, emigrate away from Australia to other countries. Most of them are White. Most of the people coming in are non-White. And so even if you have Net Zero immigration, it’s still a demographic issue.

 

But I think for Rennick it was like, cut it to a hundred thousand, like gross, which would be like net negative migration. Obviously he doesn’t support limiting the intake to just Western countries or something, which would make it a much better policy.

 

But anyway, my point is this. Gerard Rennick is extremely boring. He just wants to talk about all of these minutia policies that a bunch of like Boomers find interesting on Facebook or something, but nothing that will actually grab headlines, nothing that will really motivate strong emotions, strong feelings in the people.

 

And that’s why, even though he has a lot of good policies, I don’t think his party is going to have a great deal of success. And it’s incredibly uninspiring. I had someone report to me on what went down his recent. Because he’s setting up branches around the country for his new party and they had a meeting in Western Sydney last week. Someone sent me a photo of the meeting and it was like 90% Boomers, like White hair Boomers just sitting there.

 

And apparently Rennick said to the people:

 

“We’re going to hand out flyers and this and that, but don’t say anything controversial. Don’t say anything that’ll get you into the newspapers. Don’t say anything that will get you called the Nazi by the media.”

 

And that’s his mindset. It’s like, how far are you going to get with that mindset, Gerard? Where, like, no one’s talking about you and no one cares about you, and no one has very strong feelings about what you have to say. I don’t think it’s going to get very far. I think you’re going to. I think obviously the way that we approach politics, I mean, you can get a lot further when you have ideas outside of the mainstream through controversy.

 

Like if you look at the rise of Pauline Hanson or the rise of Donald Trump or these kind of populist politicians that have actually accumulated a decent amount of support, even though we have criticisms of them due to their flaws, the reason they got that base of support was by being attacked by the media constantly, by being controversial and it’s a common trope. Same with Nigel Farage in Britain or all these kind of populist Right-wing politicians that have any kind of success. Again, these people are all Zionist cucks, but at the same time they understand that controversy is currency in, particularly on the political Right in the contemporary era.

 

[05:24]

 

And I think the few the future of Rightwing politics is going to depend on who can channel controversy to their best benefit as opposed to those who run away from it. Similar with March for Australia. March for Australia didn’t shy away from controversy and that’s why it got so big and so hyped and had such a good attendance because it invited controversy, it got attacked by the media, it got attacked by the politicians and that just inspired people who hate the media and hate the politicians to come out and march where they otherwise might not have even heard of jacob Hersant: Definitely! So what did you want to talk about tonight? What’s on the agenda?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I thought the reason why I called the stream “Ain’t no party like the White Australia Party”, which is a LeBron James reference for those who know. But the reason why I called it that was because I thought it’s been a slow news week and we should talk probably about like the state of the movement, you know what the plan is over the next few months because obviously it was a big winter, we had a lot going on, particularly in August, now Tom’s in prison and so on.

 

And I think maybe the people would be interested in where we’re going with things. Obviously we’re working towards setting up this political party that’s like our main focus. And there’s not a rush because there isn’t, keep saying this, there’s no significant election until the end of next year, which is the Victorian state election. So there’s no rush. But at the same time we want to get this thing set up and launch.

 

So that’s obviously a lot of the focus that we have. So I thought we could talk about that, like what the plan is so that you know this. The people that are following along at home can know what the plan is and buy into it and get where we’re going.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, right now we’re focusing on just building up the amount of supporters that we have, specifically political supporters, because we need 1, 500 across the country to establish a federal party. Unfortunately, some of the work on the political party has been delayed because there’s just been a lot of reorganisation we’ve had to do with these charges that have been brought against a bunch of our members in Victoria in relation to the Camp Sovereignty incident where anti-fascists were attacking Australian patriots that were leaving the March for Australia.

 

So there was a scuffle there. A bunch of our people have been charged with violent disorder, given non-Association bail conditions and two of our members are in prison now, obviously one being Thomas national leader and another member which I won’t name. Hopefully we can get them out soon. We have a, we are organising another bail hearing for Tom and we’ve organised a bail hearing for the other member.

 

So hopefully there will be some good news in regard to that coming soon. So there hasn’t been much of an update other than so much.

 

There’s been so many people signing up to become political supporters in the wake of not only our winter nationals August 8, but also the March for Australia, August 31.

 

So there’s been a lot of people signing up. We haven’t yet reached that 1500 threshold but we’re majority of the way there and it couldn’t hurt to have a few more over that number. Obviously we’ll probably just allow it to go up further so that we have, we’re comfortably above that number when we actually establish the party.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So obviously we’ve got these, what we’re doing, excuse me, we’re doing regular events that are going to be opened up to our supporters. So that should be a good incentive people to go to White Australia.org. Sign up as a political supporter and then you can get invited to our seminars. When we put on nationals you can get invited to our national events which happen twice a year and you can be vetted to attend these types of events. You don’t have to join the Organisation as like a uniformed activist member. You can just, basically come to events like that it’s good for women, for maybe for old people, whatever. People that have sensitive professions, they feel like the commitment to being an activist is a bit much for them at this point in their life. You can still be somewhat involved, you can still come down and meet everyone and you can attend those types of events.

 

We’re gonna keep putting them on a regular basis and there’ll be speeches and so on. So get involved because yeah, go and sign up now by Australia.org and our seminars that are happening in about two weeks time. You can potentially come along to those.

 

But yeah, anyway, the, yeah, I think we should talk about a bit about the party itself because the way that I see it at this point, the way that the kind of political system is shifting. You know, we’ve seen the polling from the election was back in like what, April to now. So like in half a year, One Nation has like doubled its vote according to the polls. It’s now polling at like 13%. It’s polling above the Greens. Now the third biggest party in the country, the Liberals, are down to like 27%. So One Nation is almost at half the Liberal vote. And that’s not including all the other Right-wing parties. Like Trumpet of Patriots, I think was polling at 2% and the other parties make up an extra smaller percentage.

 

[11:25]

 

So the non-Liberal Party Right-wing vote is now crossed over the point where it’s like over half of the Liberal Party vote. And each time they do a poll, it seems like that number keeps closing and closing. The issues that we care about seem to be getting a lot of traction in political discourse. All the polling shows that people are increasingly dissatisfied with mass immigration and things like that.

 

Obviously the March for Australia was a huge bellwether for where public sentiment is on that issue. But the issue that we have in Australia, I think with distinction to Western Europe and even America, is that it’s not really happening for young voters.

 

If you look at the polling by age demographic Zoomers, Millennials, they’re not really going to the Right in the way that they are in America. Look at the polling in America, Zoomers are actually like more Right-wing than Boomers. Like Zoomers are the most Right-wing generation, which is like crazy! If you said that 10 years ago, no one would believe you because it used to be the complete inverse trend. Similar trends as well in Europe, where the Right-wing populist party is very popular with young voters. Conservative parties, not so much. But Right-wing populist parties, you know, are.

 

And what we see in Australia, because One Nation is kind of, it’s kind of like a Boomer party. It’s Boomer coded, it’s run by Boomers. Its leaders are old. It’s been around for decades. It was kind of at its zenith in the late 90s when it first launched. It doesn’t feel particularly fresh or new or dynamic. It doesn’t really appeal to young voters and they don’t know how to campaign to young voters or whatever. It just seems to be Boomers that are pissed off about immigration jumping ship to One Nation from Liberals or something.

 

And so there’s a massive gap in the market for a kind of youth focused nationalism where no one is really meeting that market right now! And I don’t really see anyone else in Australian politics that could meet that market except us. We are literally young. We’re in those, that age demographic as people than pretty much all of us.

 

And obviously our messaging and our promotion, it’s very like focused upon like on younger people, younger generations, people under the age of say like 35. You know, the way that we kind of put out our content and the way that it spreads online and so on, it appeals more to that kind of spectrum. So we think we have a golden opportunity where there’s like this market opportunity in Australian politics where no one is really competently. There isn’t like some Zionist populist Right party like they have been in Britain, or a lot of Western European countries that really appeals to that demographic in the same way. But the trends are all going in that direction where that demographic, something is going to have to emerge ultimately to cater to them.

 

And so we’ve got a golden opportunity I think to launch our party and actually have a untapped potential to draw voters from. Not that we can win an election off the back of just like young White voters, they’re outnumbered.

 

But the way that Senate works or Upper House elections work in the States, if you can get that 8%, Ralph Babet got elected to the Senate with 4.6% of the primary vote in Victoria, for example. You only need to get that radical fraction to come to your side and you can get people in into Parliament. So you know, there’s a lot of benefits to launching the party just in terms of like propping up our legal status within the system.

 

But I think that we have a proper chance of actually getting someone elected. And if we get just like one person elected, it’s infinitely more significant than any other party getting one person elected. Because it would be like a Nazi getting elected to Parliament. Like it’d be like international news story. It would be a really big deal, like the first Nazi elected in any English speaking country like ever!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, there are many, many benefits to the party. That’s why we’re doing it. First being the legal protections that hopefully we can be afforded by actually being a political party. A lot of the time when we go into court, Victoria police will lie through their teeth and say:

 

“This isn’t a political organisation at all! This isn’t a registered political party. It’s a criminal group. A criminal group focused on putting up stickers!”

 

Political stickers I guess. And that has been quite annoying. If we establish a political party, the police will no longer be able to lie like that. And hopefully it will put the, it will kind of put the police on notice that they can’t keep using the same tactics that they have been using against the National Socialist Network particularly anymore.

 

So that’s what we’re hoping for. Maybe it won’t actually be that circumstance. A lot of the time these supposed liberal Democrats don’t actually care about liberal democracy, don’t care about the system they profess to defend. So this is just speculation. We’ll have to see what actually happens.

 

Another benefit is I, like you said I think we can get people elected. And when it comes to the long term strategy of the party, I think that eventually if enough energy goes into it and enough, enough people actually vote for it, we can get a substantial amount of people elected. Not to obviously take power, take a majority government, but just to have a bargaining chip, more or less being able to.

 

Actually, these other parties will have to come to us if they want to pass legislation that requires the other party, the major party in this, in this, in most cases it will be Liberal and Labor. If they want to pass legislation, they may need some of our politicians to vote for something.

 

[17:46]

 

So when you gain that power, you can use it to great effect. Especially if you are, if you have the right strategy and you have the right mindset where obviously if we were involved in politics, we’re not just going to be like any other minor party. We’re going to be causing all kinds of chaos. So we’ll have to see.

 

Like I remain, what I would say is I remain kind of cautiously optimistic about it. Like, it’s not something that I’m wedded to, something that I’m like, we have to do this, otherwise you know, everything’s gonna go to hell! There’s all these other projects that we’re working on as well, whether it be the street activism or community building and just the meta-political struggle we’re doing as well. So people need to understand that the political party isn’t the main thing. It’s not the only thing that we’re doing. Because a lot of people, when they think of politics, they think of party politics and they think that’s the only thing that matters. That is the whole game. Like if it is political, then it’s necessarily party politics.

 

But we have a completely different understanding of politics. We see it as broader and see our movement and what we have to do to further that movement as being broader than only party politics.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s true. But at the same time, I think the advantage of the political party, one of the main advantages is that it provides a way for the Australian public to buy into the movement en masse. Where if you’re just doing street rallies in uniform, it’s a pretty big step for a lot of people to go from just thinking that the video was cool to joining us and becoming one of us. But if you have a political party, it’s well, they could give you a vote, they could consider you as someone that they would vote for and that moves them into a position where now they’re supporting a National Socialist party and then that then maybe a larger percentage of them will then want to take the next step and the next step and the next step of involvement from there. So it provides, it’s good to provide a certain soft on ramp to the movement where it becomes accessible where people can see you as a viable alternative. Otherwise they get this view of like, well those guys in black, they’re pretty cool! But those ideas are obviously too extreme for the political system. And so I’m just going to have to vote for One Nation or something. If we give them an actual option to rally behind and they can go fuck one nation. All these Boomer cuck Sydney parties, I want the real deal, full spectrum.

 

So also, this is also part of why I think Liberal death., …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, it’s important to give every like as many means to support the movement as possible. Whether it be donating or becoming a member or giving a vote or all these kind of things. So once we get a political party up, it’s just another way that people can support us. And yeah, that is very important. That’s a good point to bring up.

 

And another thing is if we get people elected, well then we can have, we can be given salaries to be full-time political soldiers, more or less. And all these establishment parties are, they’re kind of bolstered by these salaries that are being given out by the taxpayer. But we are pursuing our political mission without any taxpayer money! If we were given access to that through having our politicians elected and having staffers work with those politicians, imagine how much more work that we could do. Like these people are just taking the money of the taxpayer and wasting it on race treason and, or in the case of these smaller Right-wing parties, they’re just wasting it on Boomer nonsense that’s never, never going to change anything. Never going to save our race. We, despite having no money, are doing much more than they are. Imagine if the system was giving us some money or the taxpayer, rather. It’s not really the system, but the taxpayer.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean we are starting to get some resources behind us and that will continue. That’s the other thing as well with the political party people are going to be more inclined to join as members. They’re gonna back it. And so we can then create better propaganda as a movement because we’ll have like a party machine churning it out in general, it’s just like a, the obvious organisational structure or political movement.

 

And then also it’s like the legitimacy advantage as well. If you have someone in Parliament, it’s just like natural people would start taking it more seriously, like, as like a viable. It’s a viable thing. And if we’re in the Parliament and we’re in the black jackets or something in Parliament, everyone else is in a suit and we’re calling out the politicians, it’s going to be quite the spectacle! We’ll turn the Parliament into the usher, basically and the kind of stunts that we could pull in there and so on.

 

You also have Parliamentary privilege if you can Fed post in Parliament, like no legal charges can be laid against you can say anything. We could try and organise diplomatic visas for like, controversial people. There’s lots of things we could do. So it opens up a lot of interesting doors that we could exploit to our advantage.

 

[23:23]

 

But also we can give a voice to White Australians in the halls of power, which currently there is none. There is no voice for our people. And that’s obviously the main purpose of it is like the whole idea supposedly of representative democracy is you have politicians that represent you. Well, if you’re a nationalist, there are no politicians that represent you know, so you’re kind of picking over crumbs and coping about how this cuked politician kind of said something that’s kind of okay. You want someone to go in there and hold these politicians to account, call them out and tell it like it is. That’s supposed, you know, speak truth to power. That’s supposed to be the whole point of the representative democratic system or whatever. So we want to actually give the Australian people real democracy.

 

And if they don’t let us register the party, then we can show the Australian people that they don’t have a real democracy. They need to be, they need to see that made explicit to them because we give the system an option, either let us participate or destroy your own legitimacy to block us from participating. And it’s a choice. And I personally think we will be able to participate because of how robust Australian constitutional law is in regards to political parties. They tried to ban the Communist party in the 1950s, it failed. They went to a referendum to try and change the Constitution to enable them to ban the Communist Party. That referendum failed at the height of the Cold War. Very conservative political process at that time still failed. So it’s pretty airtight. They can’t block us. There have been registered National Socialist political parties in Australian history, you know, back in the 70s and so on.

 

So this precedent, it is not legally possible for them to block us without like an egregious unconstitutional action. And if they try to go to a referendum to try and ban us, the Australian people, I believe will vote that they can’t ban us. And it will just be another huge win!

 

So we’re going to put the system in a position where it’s kind of going to have to tolerate us if it doesn’t want to nuke itself and its own legitimacy. So we do that a lot. But this, I think in this instance it’s a much bigger, higher stakes proposition to the system where just like persecuting us over a political demonstration or something, it is a cost on legitimacy. But it isn’t as intense banning a political party. It’s a way bigger cost on its legitimacy.

 

So I don’t think they will do that. I think they’ll allow us to register, allow us to participate and I think we’ll surprise a lot of people with how successful we are. It’s going to be a lot of fun designing these campaigns. They’re going to be dynamic, they’re going to be interesting working on the policies at the moment. We’re going to have policies that are really powerful, that are conversation starters.

 

And again, talking about the meta-politics of what we’re doing, it’s going to have an effect on the rest of the political system. If we start gaining traction and having success, the other Right-wing parties are going to start moving to the Right. It’s going to shift the entire structure of the system. And that’s also why I’ve been promoting Total Liberal death. Because if we can lower the amount of votes going to the Liberal Party and direct them into the constellation of other rhyming parties, it’ll be a situation where the Right cannot govern as one party and it will fought before still like work as a coalition, a kind of uneasy coalition. And in that chaos, we can get a seat at the table and try and use that seat at the table to try and push for the most radical policies possible.

 

Jacob Hersant: I agree. Yeah, I agree. I don’t have much to add other than that. Yeah, I think we’ve covered the topic pretty well.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Do you want to, do you want to get into. You put out a post today saying we will not be attending October 19, March for Australia. Do you want to discuss that?

 

We will not be attending. But I want to preface it by saying that we have a good relationship with the organisers. We wish the march well. We hope that’s success. But in terms of our priorities as an organisation, we don’t think it makes sense for us to go again this time. We want to save our grill for Australia Day.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Got the reasons why in the post why we decided against it for this one.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes. So I made a statement saying that we’re not going to be showing up and I explained the reasons why because otherwise there was going to be speculation. This is, I guess it’s a tactical disagreement between us and March for Australia. It’s not a disagreement in ideals or we don’t oppose the organisation or anything like that. We like March for Australia and we’re happy to work with them again.

 

It’s just that in this circumstance, as you said, it doesn’t make sense for our organisation to participate again. We have a lot of things on that we have to do. We, well, we got to organise. We’ve got a lot of events going on in October as well. And when we attend these events, we bear a lot of the brunt of the consequences of those events. And we’re happy to do that when it’s a circumstance where we agree with it. We rally all the time, we do activism all the time and we face the consequences all the time.

 

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But when it comes to, we’re selective with our activism, we really want it to be something novel, a message that we want put out there or even just one that if there hasn’t been a rally in a while, then I could understand doing a rally similar like that, similar to what they’re doing. But the issue is we don’t really see there as being a compelling reason, compelling reason to mobilise and I guess, you know, face the consequences, which. Yeah, I think we wouldn’t face any consequences anywhere other than Melbourne, where there’s obviously these violent Antifa. Even then I think it may be a circumstance where these Antifa are already beaten because they didn’t show up to that other cuck rally that was in September, the one that was organised in opposition to March for Australia. None of the Antifa showed up to that even though and you may say okay, the reason they didn’t show up to that was because they understood these were the cucked Right and they weren’t the Black Shirts or the March for Australia ethno-nationalists. But I don’t think Leftists make that distinction. I think anyone to the right of them is a neo-Nazi whether they like it or not.

 

So I was very surprised that that march wasn’t met with any violence and I think the reason was because they got the absolute piss beaten out of them last time maybe the reason why they didn’t do anything. So it may be that circumstances again. So there could be a situation where we wouldn’t even bear any consequences for this. Maybe the Left are just too scared to use violence against the marchers and let’s hope that’s the case because we don’t want anyone getting attacked for their, for their political views on our side. So yeah but it makes sense for us not to, not to, not to go to this one.

 

But as I said in the post we will be working with them again in the future particularly for Australia Day.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So in Melbourne I think Matt Trihey is going to be running today from the National Workers alliance who’s a solid guy, solid ethno-nationalist. A friend of ours and he’s alleged that he’s a ex-professional MMA fighter. Solid, solid ideologically has been for a long time. Doesn’t cuck on anything, not even the jewish question. Refuses to have people on the stage given speeches that they don’t meet a standard of being a true nationalist. So you know I think all power to him, support to him. I think Blair has worked with him a lot in the past so I’m sure Blair is going to help him out on this one. So we wish the march every success in Melbourne. In particular because it’s going to be our friends still doing the bit on the day and it’s an opportunity for because there was a lot of controversy about us being there.

 

The reason why we intervened in all August 31st as Sewell explained beforehand was because we wanted to make sure that Zionists and other you know, influence groups didn’t come in and take over the march and make it about them. And so we intervened because us just saying that we’re going to go pushes out a lot of those types. And also we kind of elbowed them, helped elbow them out the way behind the scenes. And we supported the organisers because none of the organisers are members of our organisation, but we know them to be actual nationalists.

 

And so even though maybe they don’t do the Hitler thing, whatever their private views are on the subject, we know that they are genuine nationalists and they care about our people when they’re doing it for the right reasons. So that’s why we supported them. And there was a lot of disputes between different in the nature of an event like that, between different elements that will:

 

“Keep the Nazis away and so on!”

 

But the actual organisers maintained a solid stance and said we’re welcome:

 

“They’re nationalists. They deserve to be here. They’re against immigration too.”

 

And so it’s adorable they didn’t cuck. They kept the messaging solid. The event was a huge success. And so they deserve respect for doing that because there’s a lot of people that do tuck under that kind of pressure. I think we added a lot of value to the event, like by going because we enhanced the controversy around the event.

 

But at the same time people said, oh well if the Nazis go, it makes Antifa attack everyone and it makes ruins the event. So now they have an opportunity to do it without us. And we can see like what, how that goes. You know, maybe us not being there all the people that said us not being there is going to make the event better and so on. Well, now you get to have your event. And everyone that said that we’re feds, that we just came down to the event to try and hijack it in order to give the media a certain narrative or de-legitimize the event. Well, here you go. Not even going to go to this one. So we’re not feds.

 

But yeah, the reality would be like if we rocked up in Melbourne again and we tend to do things nationally as a group, like if we’re going to do it somewhere, we do it everywhere. You know, we try to operate as a national group. We’re going to mobilise again in Melbourne, it’s probably going to mean potentially a whole bunch more assault charges.

 

[34:37]

 

Whereas, you know, we, you know, we’ve got to save our grill. Like Australia Day is going to be huge. I know much for Australia want to go again on Australia Day. I think that’s going to be massive because we’ve had these Invasion Day communist Aboriginal garbage rallies taken over our cities year after year on Australia Day for a while now with no official Australia Day celebration. And it can’t go on. We have to take Australia Day. We have to take our cities back on Australia Day. Australia Day has to be a celebration of our national identity and it can’t just be openly like disrespected and counter-protested and like they’re trying to basically make Australian pride illegal, get rid of all official celebrations of it to de-legitimize the fact that it’s our country, obviously. So it’s an attack on us. It’s not just about the day, it’s about what it means.

 

So we’re all in on that. And I hope that this event is successful so that it can be a kind of amplifier to a big Australia Day rally.

 

So we ’re not saying the event is cucked and therefore we’re not supporting it or some shit like that! I hope no one gets it twisted. We’re not trying to counter signal the event. It’s just our organisational priorities are like when we go, when the average person goes to a rally like this, the chances of them getting arrested or something like is much lower than if we go obviously. So we have to calculate that in our decision making.

 

And then also for the average person, they don’t really do anything politically. Like going to a March for Australia is like the one thing they’ve done this year that’s political organising. Whereas for us we’re trying to put on seminars, we’re organising a series of other events within our organisation and we’re trying to build up to launching our political party. And we’ve got our own brand. We don’t want to just become the March for Australia Black Shirts. We want to keep doing NSN rallies.

 

So yeah, I think it makes sense for all those reasons why we’re not going, but we wish them well. And it’ll be interesting, I guess, to see how it goes. Again. Sydney, they’re trying to take, they’re gonna take Hyde Park this time, which is like usually full of pro-Palestine protesters every weekend. So it’d be nice for it to be full of Australian flags instead.

 

But yeah. Is there much anything else you want to add on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, we covered it.

 

Joel Davis: But yeah, I think for the broader. This is a question I wanted to ask you about or get your thoughts on. And I presume you would have a similar view, but maybe you’d have a slightly different view. So it could be interesting.

 

There’s some debate that because obviously you get like conservatives who will say like horseshoe theory type stuff, oh, National Socialism and communism is actually very similar and like they’re two strains of the same virus and they’re all the same. And which is obviously insane! Right. But they say this kind of thing then you’ll get people on our side who will say:

 

“Oh, National Socialism isn’t Left-wing or Right-wing. And so we shouldn’t identify as being part of the Right-wing, we shouldn’t identify as the far-Right, we should identify as a Third Position.”

 

And obviously there’s some logic to that position.

 

But at the same time I think that that’s the incorrect way of going about things for two reasons. One, when National Socialism and fascism was first invented, what kind of denominator the political spectrum was quite different. It was a lot more about like climate, class distinctions than it is today. Today the Right and the Left aren’t really about what class you side with or your views on the Monarchy or the aristocracy or these types of things. It’s a lot more frankly like whether you oppose or have some sympathy to nationalism directionally.

 

And I think that should be encouraged. I think we should encourage the redefinition because Left and Right, as is just a relative determination like through history, it’s meant different things. Originally it meant do you support completely getting rid of the Monarchy and the aristocracy or you’re a conservative that supports retaining a certain amount of aristocratic privilege, or a constitutional monarchy or something like that.

 

And then also do you support the Church having like a prominent role in the state or not or whatever. And the Left were like get rid of it all, equalise everything. Then obviously the Left became a lot more about socialism, a lot more rather than just that liberal opposition to old world monarchism. And then it became kind of socialism versus like bourgeois liberalism which became the Right. And it became like your position on capitalism, your position on wage distribution or income distribution and things like that, redistribution, etc.

 

But I think increasingly that’s not the case anymore. I think a lot of people identify with the political Right-wing, but actually have so-called Left-wing or socialist views on economic policies, but they just support the Right-wing because they’re anti-immigration or they’re anti-trans or you know, that type of thing. They support Right-wing social policies. And a lot of people on the Left. What really animates them is those issues as well. Like they, you’ll get Leftists who you know, left us agree with billionaires that immigration is good for example. They don’t seem to really care about the White working class, seem to only care about brown people and black people or whatever and like their interests. There’s a lot of people on the Left that just want all the CEOs to become brown and black and then they support capitalism as long as it’s no longer like you know, propping up the White race or something in their perception.

 

So I think race is increasingly the main dividing issue on Left and Right and we should encourage this. We should like think, amplify it and say yes, us as like the pure position on this issue on the far-Right and the most ultra left are the most anti-White and everyone else kind of plots within that distinction. And we should try overcode the Left-Right dichotomy with our framework, our racialised framework and position ourselves on the far-Right.

 

Would you agree with that as like a orientation or would you side with the Third Positionist position?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not wedded to either really. I see validity in both kind of ways of framing it. Obviously we have some similarities with socialism being on the Left and then in terms of our values in nationalism and traditionalism, that’s more associated with the Right-wing.

 

So when you use that framework to talk about those similarities we have with the movement saying that we’re nationalists but we’re also socialists, sometimes going from that Third Position lens is useful when you’re trying to convince someone or persuade someone to become a National Socialist.

 

But at the same time I also like, I like being called far-Right man. I think it sounds good. I like being the furthest to the Right being the most pure position and I like the fact that when you’re right about something, you’re correct about something. We are far-Right, we are far correct, we are the most correct position and everything else is a watering down of our position. And the further you go, you go to the far-Left and that is, it’s good to have that contrast because I don’t think anyone’s going to be convinced by horseshoe theory. Because when you look at Black Shirts, we look like, we do look like the far-Right. That’s what you look at the far-Right. That’s what you would expect to see someone with a good haircut. Clean shaven, wearing all black, just proper like old school kind of look.

 

And then you look at the far-Left, it’s the complete opposite of that, where they’re disheveled, transgender freaks, spiteful mutants and all of that kind of stuff. So people, they look at the difference between our two groups, like let’s say the Victorian Socialists on one hand and then the National Social Network, despite the fact that you have the word socialist in it, look at the two groups and then try to say that they’re the same thing. It’s insanity! And that’s why it’s confined to midwits like Drew Pavlou, who’s, who used this type of argumentation because it’s not convincing. It’s so different from how things actually are. So I like both, I like calling myself far-Right, but when it comes to saying:

 

“Hey, actually we have some agreements with, I guess what you would call the historical left.”

 

Because most of the, most of the Left-Right now aren’t very socialistic when it comes to like the Labor Party and things like that. So I like being able to talk about that, but I also like being able to identify as far-Right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s fair enough.

 

But obviously Left and Right is a relativistic determination.

 

So originally classical liberals the original liberals were actually on the Left during that time, like I’m talking about the French Revolution or something.

 

Whereas like the so-called conservatives of today, they identify as liberals they are ideological liberals. The average member of the Liberal Party that is apparently a conservative or Liberal Party voter doesn’t support absolute monarchy or aristocratic peerage or like any of these, like the, like the clergy having like representation in the Senate or something like there would never support, or maybe a few of them would, but pretty much none of them would support things like that or even to conceive of them, which is what the traditional Right supported against the Leftists who were like, no, it should be one vote once per citizen, shouldn’t matter what social class you come from, whatever. So these things change over time. So we could have agreements with the historical Left, but so do conservatives. Conservatives literally are the historical Left, like in every respect.

 

And then when it comes to what the current left gets offended by, if I go up to a Leftist and say:

 

“Hey, I might have some agreement with you on, I don’t know, environmentalism, or I might have some agreement with you on like defending, you know, state funded healthcare systems or whatever.”

 

Now I’m going to be like:

 

“Oh, well, you know, it’s, just you being a racist, it’s not that big of a deal. Like we agree on most things. Let’s like try and work together to those ends. Let’s try and get all these different environmentalist and socialist policies passed and we could just leave the race discussion for later.”

 

They’re never going to do that! It’s far more likely that people on the Right-wing who are already anti-immigration and are already nationalists, but maybe they biased, what’s more of a free market system. They’re more likely to say:

 

“Oh well we agree on all of this stuff, but we don’t necessarily agree on economic policy, but we could still kind of work together.”

 

That’s way more likely that that’s going to happen. So like, obviously, therefore we’re on the Right because what fundamentally animates each side morally is those more fundamental social, like racial issues. And no, we’re not like communists when it comes to economics either. National Socialists defended private property. They defended small businesses. If you read about what the election campaigns were like in Germany in the late 1920s, early 1930s, the other Right-wing parties of that time, a lot of them tried to criticise the National Socialists for having like Bolshevik economic policies or whatever. Like that was actually an argument that they used.

 

And in those days, like it wasn’t like the NSDAP was considered controversial because it was racist or anti-semitic. Like half the parties were racist. Almost all the parties are racist and anti-semitic in Germany in the late 1920s, and early 1930s. So it was a completely different era.

 

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But in the kind of debates they would have, the National Socialists would defend themselves saying:

 

“No, we support defending private property, we support defending agriculture. We support defending, you know, small businesses. We don’t support this kind of Americanised capitalism where these mega corporations take over all of these industries and remove your experience of being a worker, or a consumer completely alienated from your local context and make you a cog in this international machine run by jewish finance. We don’t support that. We support localism, we support mom and pop stores.”

 

And these are the types of things that conservatives care about apparently, like the party of small business. That’s what Liberals present themselves as, even though they’re really the party of big business. So that doesn’t sound like the same thing as a communist. You know, communists talk about how:

 

“We’ve got to like execute landlords and small business, big business doesn’t matter, they’re all capitalist scum and they all need to hang!”

 

You know, that’s completely different. National Socialism is not just like racist communism. It is like clearly distinct.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well that’s why you have the term National Bolshevism. Yeah, that describes what these people are describing and it’s a more or less a meme ideology now. Nobody really believes in it or is actually fighting for it. So yeah, it’s not an issue.

 

But I remember Jonathan Bowden to move back to the previous point. Jonathan Bowden, he defined the Right and the Left based on whether or not you support inequality or equality. But I think, which I think describes more or less the what you’re talking about as well.

 

But I think it’s easier for people to understand when it’s framed around nationalism and then I guess race treason and national treason on the other end. That’s probably easier for people to understand.

 

But that is more or less the defining Right versus Left-wing nowadays because it’s such a crucial and visceral issue that is defining this whole age like whether or not nationalism is going to win or you know, national treason. We need like a better word for that. I guess just race treason. Race treason. National treason. I guess anti-Whiteism. What do we put on the other end? What’s the Left defined by?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think it’s just defined by like White genocide basically. You’re either you’re non-White and actively supporting the theft of Western nations from the White race or you’re a race traitor White person who actively supports it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, White survival on one end and then White genocide on the other? That really is what is animating all of these political groups. But we also got to understand that what we call Right-wing parties today are more or less Left-wing parties. Like the people that vote for them tend to be Right-wing.

 

But then they’re betrayed over and over again by the politicians who they want to represent them. They don’t represent them at all! They take their votes, they take their money and they’re happy and then they Institute a similar agenda as the rest of the Left. The rest of the race traitors and traitors to Australia.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is part of why I supported in my article I wrote before the election “Reconceptualizing Liberal Party as a Left-wing party”. Because on policy it is a Left-wing party. Like name one Right-wing policy that Liberals have. You can’t, because there isn’t one. The Liberals were the party that were responsible for taking away our guns. They were the party responsible for passing gay marriage. They were the party responsible for institutionalizing multiculturalism as government policy under Fraser in the late 70s, Liberal Party openly declared, like Scott Morrison, ex-leader, ex-prime minister, Liberal Party said:

 

“We are the party that ended the White Australia Policy!”

 

He’s right. They were. The Liberal Party time and time again has, basically facilitated the agenda of the Left.

 

So why is it conceived of as a Right-wing party? It just shouldn’t. We should just like move the centre of Australian politics from one side of the Liberal Party to the other side. I think that’s a really easy distinction to make and one that needs to happen. That’s why again, I support Total Liberal Death.

 

One thing that we should be able to agree upon with the Right, even if you think we’re a little extreme for you is we’re going to destroy the Liberal Party because it is this traitorous entity that just sucks all the energy out of the general Right-wing and subordinates it to the interests of the establishment which is fundamentally defined by basically Left-wing social policies straight up and down the ticket. Like the Liberal Party supports transgenderism.

 

I remember there was a time I was still living in Sydney, but I was coming down to visit the boys in Melbourne a lot a few years ago and I made a trip down to Melbourne for some other reason. I think it was because the Stop Immigration rally was happening and some other things and I was like:

 

“Well, if I’m going to be in Melbourne, there was like all these Drag Queen Story Hours that were happening. Might as well just try and like attack these Drag Queen Story Hours.”

 

And so I started creating campaigns to like mobilise people to attack certain Drag Queen Story Hours. And I think Sewell was like:

 

“Yeah, let’s like mobilise like the NSN, the counter-protest one of them.”

 

But we didn’t have to counter-protest any of them because we just kept getting them shut down. As soon as like we started like attacking it and getting people to like call up and you know, complain and saying we’re going to do a kind of protest rally at the front of the child care centre or library or wherever it was being held. That would just pull it! The police would advise them to pull it and, or that they would buckle under the pressure and they’d pull it.

 

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And so we got so many of these Drag Queen Story Hours shut down across Melbourne that it frustrated the Premier. I think at the time Dan Andrews was still premier. I think it was before he stepped down. That he actually held the Drag Queen Story Hour inside Parliament with all the media just to like, because it was the one place where we couldn’t get it shut down by threatening to counter-protest it.

 

And then at the time, John Pudo [sp] was the leader of the Victorian Liberal Party and he came out into the media, he was so upset about this Drag Queen Story Hour being held in Parliament because he wasn’t invited! Because he wasn’t invited. He said:

 

“How dare they not invite me. No one supports transgenderism more than Liberal Party. We love transgenderism even more than the Labor Party. And this is an outrage! They would try and portray us as an anti-trans, anti-LGBT party. We love gay people, we love trans people and so on.”

 

So that’s the Liberal Party, right? Just like let that sink in for a second. This is your so-called Right-wing party. Like it’s a joke!

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s been interesting seeing the shills come out and try to mobilise and what’s the word? Recuperate some Right-wing support for the Liberal Party with this Andrew Hastie character. So I saw a video of him where he was, I guess, lamenting the fact that Australia’s car industry has died, which the Liberals did nothing to save anyway. But he was lamenting that with like a antique car. And he had a flashy video for it.

 

And this is what is being kind of dangled before the Right-wing to try and recuperate some support for the Liberal Party. And I’ve seen that you’ve been coming out against it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we’ve been talking about how Andrew Hastie is a faggot for the last two weeks in a row, on The Joel and Blair Show. So all viewers probably heard the talking points.

 

But yeah, I saw Andrew Hastie announced that he was stepping down from the front bench stepping or the shadow front bench because of the Liberal Party’s pro-immigration policies.

 

So I guess it’s kind of interesting that he’s tipped to probably make a leadership challenge next year. From what I heard from my sources inside the Liberal Party, he actually has the numbers. And considering the way things are going, the Liberals keep bleeding votes in the polls to One Nation and everything is kind of shifting to the Right in general discourse and public dissatisfaction. And we’re going to keep probably we’re going to keep definitely pouring kerosene on the fire of anti-immigration sentiment.

 

And so that trend will probably continue. I could see him being successful next year and Liberal Party trying to rebrand as you know, a more of an anti-immigration party in order to win votes in 2028 because otherwise, … It’s not so much that they’re losing votes to the Labor Party at this point or to the Teals, they’re losing votes to One Nation and other Right-wing parties and that’s existential for Liberal Party. If they lose the base they could become a micro party. They could never be a major party again, which is absolutely fantastic! So I support Sussan Ley. Hail Sussan Ley! She’s doing an incredible job, Agent Susan, destroying the Liberal Party. But unfortunately she’s doing too good of a job maybe. And so we accelerated too hard or something there and it could unravel.

 

But it’s very important that Andrew Hastie and this if he does get the leadership. He’s not believed! Because at the end of the day the Liberal Party is funded by corporate and industrial lobbyists that benefit from mass immigration. And they all, you know what he said was we’re going to, we should cut immigration to 2019 pre-covered levels which is still hundreds of thousands a year, net half a million a year gross. Over half a million people immigrated to Australia in 2019, I think it was like 200,000 roughly net over half a million gross.

 

And as I said earlier like quarter of a million plus Australians emigrate away from Australia every year, move to other countries. Most of them are White and most people coming in are not White. So 500,000 mostly not Whites coming in, 300,000 mostly Whites leaving. You do that for you know, the next 20 years, White people become a minority in this country. That’s what Andrew Hastie is offering you. So how is that worth supporting or rallying behind?

 

Also what it shows is that the only way it does occur, Andrew Hayesi does take power in the Liberal Party and they do pivot on their messaging. But what it shows is taking support away from the Liberal Party is the only way to make the Liberal Party become more Right-wing. If you give it all of its support, it just tries to win Left-wing votes at the centre, take away the support. Then it tries to actually listen to its own voters because that now it needs to. But at that point you’ve already got other parties that are better than the Liberal Party and other options that are better than the Liberal Party that are getting your support. So why would you take it back to the Liberal Party, just keep it over there? You know, so it’s like a, the incentive structure if you’re a Right-wing to support Liberal Party, isn’t there? The less you support it, the better it will get. The more you support it, the worse it will get.

 

So why support it?

 

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Jacob Hersant: That is a good point. Yeah, I think this Andrew Hastie, it’s always not genuine when it comes to the, all this posturing and then they’re just going to continue immigration and it’s bizarre! It’s bizarre because you think they would pull the brake on it a little bit. Like what are the housing prices like in Sydney now? Somebody like showed it to me a few days ago and I couldn’t believe my eyes how expensive it is. And now they’re bringing in what’s the new legislation that brought in where it’s, I think you only have to have 5% now to get a, of the down payment to get a mortgage for a house. It’s just insanity! Like they’re just pumping up the usury even more. They’re pumping up the problems not only in terms of immigration and demand but then also economically. Like I don’t even understand what is happening. Maybe you’re going to have to explain it to me, Joel.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, like the average house price in Sydney I think is over $2 million now, which is the average, I think the average income is about $100,000 a year.

 

So that’s 20 years average salary to buy a home. Obviously you can’t spend all your salary on just on mortgage repayments and then you’ve got interest on top of that. So basically if you’re taking out a 5% deposit loan as an like permanent debt slavery basically like just mathematically as like an adult.

 

Jacob Hersant: Could you even pay it off though? Even if you’re doing it somewhat, …

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think the bank would give it to you. I don’t think the bank would actually approve you for a loan at that, at those, on those. If you’re only earning $100,000 a year and you tried to buy a 2 million dollar house and you only had whatever 5% of that is like 100 grand deposit, I don’t think you could approve that. But like if they try to like force them to approve it through legislation. Like obviously that’s insanity!

 

And then also this whole system is just dependent upon. Then once you buy into the housing bubble and you get mortgaged up to the shit house in order to buy into it, well then now you’re basically kind of like leverage on it, continuing to expand because adding equity to your home is the only way that that becomes like financially viable. Like so then you’re not going to want to then support like cutting house prices in half by mass deporting 8 million non-Whites. Because that fucks you over. Which is why one of our keynote policies is going to be nationalizing the mortgage lending market and engaging in mass debt forgiveness. You’re going to have to write off a bunch of this debt in order to make it work, otherwise because we have to bring house prices down in order for housing to be affordable.

 

But we also have to like provide a way out for the people that got a mortgage to buy it. Like you know, they saved up, they worked hard, they got a massive mortgage for a massively overpriced property. We need to provide them with a relief as well. Like in order to like free them from debt slavery so that we can rebuild the middle class. Like it’s the only way to do it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Is there anything else you want to talk about or should we go on to the Superchats?

 

Joel Davis: There isn’t that many Superchats because everyone’s being a cheap cunt tonight.

 

So we should probably, I don’t know pick one more subject.

 

Jacob Hersant: Talking about housing prices and it made them think about they’re being more sober with their spending.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Yeah. What else is there to discuss? I guess another subject we could discuss. I guess is the subject of women in the movement. Seen a lot of like a lot more women in the movement lately. A lot more women online supporting policy. There was the poll that came out recently that showed Australian women actually have more negative attitudes towards immigration than Australian men. Of course, according to one poll. Obviously it’s one poll, but I thought that was interesting.

 

Obviously there’s the statistic that I think in the 1932 election the NSDAP actually got more votes from women than it got from men. So you know, we’ve said a lot of misogynistic things on the show over the years and I don’t take any of it back. But at the same time that’s interesting to note and obviously we’re not going to have women in the NSN anytime soon or ever! But that’s partly because of we just don’t. We don’t think it’s safe for women to be engaged in that kind of activity. But we’re putting on these seminars or whatever. There is a way for women to be involved and to support the party, that aspect of the movement, be a political supporter, attend those kinds of events. So we are giving women something they can do, some way to get involved other than just like, breeding.

 

So we’re throwing you a bone, throwing you a bone! But do you have thoughts on that? Did you see that poll? Would you have thoughts on that poll? Do you think it’s accurate?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not sure if it’s accurate. I can’t really. I don’t have any information that I’m privy to that can confirm whether it’s real or false. But it is interesting. That’s the same parallel that I made or the same connection I made was to the fact that the NSDAP got more votes from women than it did men. And it’s an interesting fact. I don’t think I have any definitive position on whether or not it’s a good thing to have more men voting for your party or more women voting for your party. It’s something that I’d have to sit down and really think about for quite a while. I’m kind of embarrassed that I haven’t thought about it a little bit more. But I guess this is an impetus to actually do that.

 

But as as Joel was saying you can become involved in our movement and White Australia that is not in the National Socialist Network because the National Socialist Network is focused on street activism. And just go watch the August 31st footage if you want to see why women aren’t involved in the National Socialist Network because there was some brutality happening on that day. So I’m sure women will be happy, to be spared that. And if you aren’t, okay, that’s pretty cool! But anyway we’re not gonna. We’re not gonna subject you to that nonetheless.

 

So you can get involved. Yeah, we’re doing things like seminar and where all the partners of members of the National Socialist Network and broader White Australia. All of the partners, the women meet up. A lot of them have children, so they’ll meet up and have play dates and those kind of things.

 

So there’s a lot that women can do if they are inclined to get involved and if you have a partner as well that isn’t involved. You should encourage them to get involved with one of the things that we’re doing at the very least.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. If you’re a woman, learn how to sew. Or maybe you already know how to sew, even better. So are some Australian flags, some nice because like the ones you buy in the shop that aren’t actually made, they’re just like Chinese, like plastic garbage! You can like make us a nice cotton Australian flag or several make us some Union Jacks. You can make us whatever. Or even better message one of us, then we’ll give you like, we’ll give you like stuff to make. There’s a lot, there’s lots of jobs for the grandmas that are good at sewing out there for a second example that they could do behind the scenes. Some of the women do help out. Some of the partners have helped out with that kind of thing in the past.

 

So there’s like women can be involved in the community aspect and they can do jobs like that, but just don’t want them on the front lines. I think that’s pretty reasonable.

 

But as for this poll, so this poll, the question was:

 

“Do you think immigration to Australia is generally positive or generally negative for the country?”

 

And men in this poll had about a thousand respondents, which is kind of normal, statistically normal for these kinds of things. Men were 46% positive, 39% negative, 14% unsure. Women were only 37% positive. They were 43% negative and, 20% unsure.

 

So that was interesting. And I was thinking about why would that be the case? Let’s just say that it’s at accurate. So we were disputing the accuracy, but I think it’s still like worth considering. Well, if it is accurate, why and polling the science people like say really low IQ about how polling is junk and how can you infer things about general populations if you only have a thousand or two thousand people in a study? But no, polling is actually extremely accurate. It’s been shown to be extremely accurate many times before in where polling can pretty accurately predict, you know, election outcomes with only a very small degree of like, not like perfect, like 100% accuracy, but only with, very small amount of discrepancy. So polling is science with empirical veracity.

 

But anyway, the point is that why would this be the case? I thought about a few things. One, I think what I observed, I don’t have polling on this, but what I observed just from like being out in public in Australia and somebody who travels around to different cities in Australia quite often and has a lot of varied experiences. Is that in Australia, mixed race couples, I’d say 8 out of 10 of them is a White man with a non-White woman at least and very small. A much smaller percentage of it is a White woman with a non-White man. Also when you go to like bougie White flight areas in like Sydney and Melbourne, I see a lot more women there than men. And all those women seem single.

 

So it seems like White women are more inclined to White flighting than White men and they’re less inclined, at least in Australia to dating non-Whites than the other way around. There’s a lot of White guys with Asian GFs and you’re seeing them with Indian GFs these days, which is like, I mean, what the fuck are you doing? But we’re seeing this as an epidemic. And you could say this is partly women’s fault for being, having being too hypergamous and having too high expectations. And so White men are like forced onto the yellow or brown GF plantation because they’re easier to pick up than a White woman. But at the same time, whatever the case may be, that’s a dynamic that I’ve observed.

 

And so if White guys are all banging gooks, they’re more inclined to say immigration is good. I’ve noticed a kind of dynamic where figures on the Australian Right like Drew Pavlou or John Ruddick, when they got rid of their Asian missus, they started pivoting to a far more anti-immigration stance almost immediately afterwards.

 

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And I think there’s a correlation there. I think that there’s something to that. We’ve seen this many times with in like in general in the movement where you know, someone gets a non-White girlfriend and change their political opinions and vice versa because it makes sense.

 

Because if you’re going to breed with a non-White person, obviously everything changes in terms of what’s in your interest. When you become a full on like race traitor where you invest your genes in another race, then why would you care about White nationalism anymore? Now you’re invested in multi-racial society. So I thought maybe that could be one of the reasons why. Do you think that could be accurate?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I think women tend to race mix far less than men. And yeah, you’re right about that. Insofar as the most common race mixing couple that you’ll ever see is White man, Asian woman, at least in Australia, like you’ll see that quite frequently.

 

And I think it is for the reasons that you stated. And I want to hear your gradations of like, because you were saying I get it, why the Asian misses these pathetic White men are getting with the Asian women. But then you were far more disappointed about the fact that they’re getting with Indian women as well. [chuckling] So now we’re gonna have to hear like your [chuckling] hierarchy of like race fixing. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think it’s just objective. I mean, Asian women look like bugs. But like, obviously Indian women are next level disgusting! Like, Indians are the most putrid, unattractive race. They smell bad. They’re hairy as fuck! Asians don’t smell good either. But you have to be really close to them to realise that they smell bad. Whereas Indians, it’s a much more offensive odor. And you know.

 

Jacob Hersant: But where do blacks fit into there though?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I think having sex with the black woman is at least as gay as having sex with an Asian man! I would say that’s a kind of a different dimension. When I see a White man with a black woman, I think that maybe they’re like homosexual or they’re on the spectrum of homosexuality to a certain extent.

 

This is why I think as well, black men, like all niggers are gay. Like when blacks go to jail, they start butt raping each other. And like if you look at the data from America the gayest race per capita is blacks, according to the data.

 

So I think this is because black men obviously are attracted to black women, like, unlike anyone else seemingly, except for like a small group of freaks! And because they’re like biologically attuned to being attracted to black women, they kind of have to be almost bisexual because black women are so masculine. So their kind of sensitivity to the sexual sensitivity or whatever to homosexuality has to be reduced. So, yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: Where do Red Indians fit? Are Red Indians equivalent of Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Well, it’s I don’t really know too many, like pure red Indians, like, usually like people that are native to the Americas are like mixed with White at this point to varying degrees. So.

 

Jacob Hersant: So like is Hispanic and like Arabic, because Arabic, a lot of Levantine people also have White DNA. Do you think like, the Hispanic and the Levantine are like a tier above the Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean the Whiter ones. The Whiter ones, I would say so.

 

But then some of them are like, they have more of the putrid non-White DNA mixed into the point that it makes it like, really gross!

 

Obviously there’s Asian tiers as well. I think the Japanese are more attractive than, like, jungle Asians from, like, Vietnam or whatever, objectively.

 

So I think there’s tiers. Like, all race mixing is wrong, but, like, when you think about it, like, from the perspective of the inner world of the person who is sexually giving themselves over to that experience, like, it has to be a scale of degradation. Like I think that.

 

Jacob Hersant: Such a funny topic.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think. So yeah, I think it’s a funny topic. Send in some Superchats on that subject if you want some elaboration.

 

Jacob Hersant: Some people are going to be like, [chuckling] is it all right that I’m doing this? [chuckling] Oh, no! Like, don’t send in that Superchat. We’re just gonna tell you. No. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course it’s not all right if you have to ask if it’s all right and it’s not. But yeah I don’t know. Like, to me, it’s not like:

 

“Oh, man, I’m stuck having sex with White women. I really deeply I want to have a Japanese waifu, but because I’m loyal to Adolf Hitler, I’m stuck on the White implantation!”

 

I think White women are objectively, like, far more attractive, I think, in every way. Like, personally, like, obviously at their peak. If you said:

 

“This is the hottest Japanese girl in all of Japan and here’s like, the ugliest, fattest, most disgusting White girl.”

 

Obviously, like, … But luckily, I don’t have to make that choice. I can just be with a hot White chick. And that’s what you should all aspire to.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it seems to be when people say they have a preference for another race, the only one that you really hear about is yellow fever, like, having a preference for Asian women rather than White women. And you’ll hear this from, like, race traitors saying:

 

“I get what you’re saying about nationalism and all that, but I got yellow fever, mate!”

 

You [chuckling] never hear anyone saying they’re an oil driller or they’re obsessed with Levantine women or anything like that it’s only yellow.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In Australia, I think a lot of Americans are into the Latinas.

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, yeah.

 

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Joel Davis: But we just don’t have too many of them in Australia, so it’s kind of like, not as much of a thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: They’re a similar race, though. Like the Red Indians. They’re almost like hapas [half and half], the Latinos are like hapas between Asians and Whites.

 

Joel Davis: It’s a scale that like some Latinos are like they’re like 3/4 plus White and then some of them are like brown as fuck k. And so there’s a spectrum. Like obviously like Nick Fuentes and like the average Mexican don’t look the same. Right? So there’s a massive spectrum in like how much mixed breeding with Whites occurred.

 

Obviously the Whiter it is, the more I can see why you’d be attracted to it because it comes closer to like White features that I find attractive. But that itself is a refutation in my opinion. But yeah, I think most of the time it’s a discount. Like they will say, people that have like Asian wives that try to justify it to me, they say:

 

“Oh, your White wife or girlfriend doesn’t respect you like my Asian wife, she’s cooking me fried rice and cleaning and she doesn’t like talk back and all this kind of shit!”

 

And it’s like obviously you don’t know how you can’t handle a White woman. You don’t know how to like make a White woman submit. So now like you just, you need a discount basically.

 

So it’s just like in a certain sense the trash taking itself out. I get less offended when I see a nerdy dysgenic White guy with an Asian misus because, I don’t support it. It’s still a problem. But I think:

 

“Well those genes, didn’t fail [pass] the test. So now I guess we don’t really need him on the race.”

 

Like if you’re a disgusting low IQ freak, do we need you reproducing with a White woman? Do we need you on the race anymore? Less. So but if it’s like a high stock looking, you know, solid White dude, it’s like, surely you could get a White girlfriend. Like what are you doing?

 

Jacob Hersant: I get crazy because they’re reducing a relationship to just having a domestic slave, more or less. It’s not about building a future, having children with this person, like the healthiest children you can have. The children that are going to be the most successful in the world. It’s just about having a domestic slave, which is crazy to me! But it just shows you the priorities that these race traitors have.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean just like watch your Sterling Cooper videos, Get skills and get a White domestic slave if that’s your thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: But I like how we started talking about, by talking about the party and big ambitions and now it’s, we’re talking about the gradations of race mixing! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: It’s a quality, it’s quality content. Like I’ve not like, I think the viewers enjoy it. It’s like fun but also it is actually serious.

 

So in your day to day life. Like you encountered this often and you have to have these conversations. Like I have conversations often with people who will say I’ve got the yellow fever or their race mixes. And I try to say something because I think:

 

“Well, it’s better I say something now while they’re just dating or they’re just fooling around with non-White women than no one’s saying anything and then all of a sudden they get married and have three hapa kids and now like it’s over. And now that that guy and his blood is lost from our nation forever!”

 

Like so it’s always good to say something. It’s always good to encourage others to say something because it’s dignity. It’s like as if you’re going to want your own flesh and blood not to be of your own people. Then what’s the point? Like what’s the point of putting in effort as a father? What’s the point of like are you gonna go to your grave like that? Like your bloodline is doomed? Like what are you, what are you doing?

 

Like, it’s such a baseline issue and it’s gonna, the amount of race mixing that is occurring, it’s going to become increasingly a bigger and bigger issue. We’re going to have all these resentful hapas, you know, ascending through institutions into positions of power and prominence over the next generation. A lot of them are going to be motivated by an anti-White animus. A lot of them are going to be motivated by their resentful mutant status. And it’s going to be a massive problem. So you know, it needs to be discussed, needs to be called out. Miscegenation was illegal too. Mixed race marriages were illegal in Australia in the past. They should be illegal.

 

If you want to marry an Asian, move to whatever her country of origin is and go and join her tribe over there. You know, that’s really what you want. But yeah. Should we get into the Superchats? What do you think?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, let’s do it!

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah. All right. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Lucky I work in real Estate!”

 

I guess, talking about how house prices are up, blah, blah, blah. Macula Torren said:

 

“Would you have Lucas Gage on the show again? He was stabbed in the back by the Brown Alliance. He’s writing his book Our Struggle, where he introduces neo-feudalism to solve America’s race issue.”

 

I’ve spoken to Lucas multiple times. We’ve done Twitter Spaces, we’ve done a few streams after January 26 for Australia Day. We had a big rally action. A lot happened. And he interviewed me afterwards. And again, Lucas is my friend. Sometimes we don’t see fully eye to eye on a lot of issues. But I do think that he does want to what is best for our race, for our people.

 

And even though I don’t agree with him on all takes because I think he tries too hard to win over the base non-Whites and develop some kind of one struggle philosophy, I do think that he’s earnest. I do think he’s just trying to do what he thinks will work to advance our people. I don’t think his motivations are like wrong.

 

So why wouldn’t I be friendly with someone like that? It’s okay to not agree 100% on all issues with people in our movement if their heart’s in the right place. They’re trying to advance movement, they’re trying to advance our people and they conduct themselves in a friendly manner. Like, why wouldn’t you still be friendly?

 

So if you wanted to do a stream, whether it would be discussing ideas we agree or disagree upon, I would always be down to do it.

 

But yeah, in terms of like, are you. This is gonna be something for you to sign up on Jacob, this whole allying with non-Whites thing. It was discussed after the March for Australia because there was some, mostly Americans. There’s like a wing of the American far-Right, the American nationals nationalist movement, where they’re so fixated upon anti-semitism, they’re so fixated upon anti-zionism that it’s almost like they put being pro-Palestine above being pro-White. Obviously we’re anti-Israel, obviously we’re anti-semitic, we’re anti-jew! But like, if I could deport every single jew to Israel tomorrow, I would do it without even thinking, of course I would do that. It feels like for some of these people, they wouldn’t even do that because it would be, it would facilitate the genocide of the Palestinians or something.

 

And it’s like, what? Like I’m not in politics because I give a shit about Palestinians. In politics because I give a shit about our race. You know, I don’t have anything particularly against the Palestinians either. I’m neutral on Palestine, but I’m anti-Israel because of what Israel is doing to our people.

 

And it’s like they can’t compute this. They think because Tom mentioned the anti-Israel, the pro-Palestine, anti-March for Australia protesters in his speech because we got into fights against people with Palestinian flags, that it means we’re allying with Israel. And like this, you’re either with Palestine or you’re with Israel and there’s no other position you could have. And I find this to be a ridiculous position. Do you want to weigh in on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. Well, if they’re so worried about us calling out Palestine, then these Palestinians need to police themselves and not attack our activists when we’re trying to do a March for Australia. If you’re going to position yourself against the Australian nationalist march, then obviously we’re going to oppose you in that’s a core principle. That’s what we’re fighting for.

 

So if they come out against us, we’re going to meet them. That’s the reality. Like, we’re going to oppose them in their opposing of us.

 

So it’s a bit ridiculous! What’s the alternative? Are we supposed to, anytime someone’s carrying a Palestine flag, are we allowed to just be beaten by them? And we can’t fight back because that would be playing into the hands of the jews? Obviously, if anyone’s playing into the hands of the jews, it’s these activists.

 

And I’m not saying all Palestinians are doing it. Obviously not all Palestinians are doing it, but these people that are having the Palestine flag and then coming out against Australian nationalism are the ones that are playing into the hands of the jews, not us, because they’re the ones that are instigating this conflict. Because otherwise, if it was not opposed to us and it was just against Israel and for Palestine, then we would support it because we don’t like Israel and we see Israel as being a bigger threat to Australian nationalism than Palestinian nationalism and Palestinian sovereignty. We have no problem with Palestine at all! In fact, we wish them well because they are fighting against a common enemy.

 

And in terms of, well, all we can do really is express solidarity with the Palestinians in their country. There’s not really that much more that we can do. We don’t have massive resources that we can just donate to Palestine. All of the money is going to the struggle for our nation. Just as the Palestinians are going to spend all their money on the liberation of their country. We’re focused on the liberation of our race and our country rather than foreigners. We’re focused on our race. Like we’re nationalists.

 

But a lot of these people that call themselves nationalists that are focused on Palestine particularly have become de-centered. They’ve lost what defines them largely which is nationalism. So they’re focused on foreigners instead of their own position and what is actually their own interest and what they should be fighting for.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And I think when it comes to the pro-Palestine movement, a lot of people in the movement are not Palestinian. They’re just like assorted Muslims of various types. There’s like Islamic solidarity. And these Muslim peoples are not our friends. They are one of the most hostile groups of immigrants to Australians. They weren’t just responsible for rape gangs in Britain was a way large scale, but that kind of shit happened here as well. That was one of the main fuels for the Cronulla riots* and so on and so this idea that we can ally with Muslims is ridiculous! Either Muslims live in their own countries on the other side of the world where they’re of no use to us, or they live in our countries in which case they’re hostile invaders and we want them to get the fuck out of our country.

 

[* The 2005 “Cronulla Riots” were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebanese) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

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So it’s like there’s no Muslim alliance that’s viable. They either have nothing to offer us or they’re just diametrically opposed to our interests.

 

And then the other major faction of the pro-Palestinian movement is communists who also hate us for all the obvious reasons. And so we’re not going to go and support the pro-Palestine movement. We stay away from it. We avoid it. I think Melbourne has had more pro-Palestine rallies in it than any other city in the world or something since October 7th, it has like the world record for pro-Palestine rallies. We have not interrupted a single one. It was only them that interrupted us. So we obviously stay away from them and let them do their thing because we’re not going to be foot soldiers for the jews. But yeah, this is, I think it’s a particularly like American online movement affliction.

 

And then a lot of people who amplify it are actually brown. They go into nationalist communities online but they have an anonymous avatar. No one can see their face. And then they pretend like they’re on our side just because they. But they’re just advancing their own interests. They then go and tell White nationalists they should stop being so hateful towards, towards other races and they should be focused on supporting Palestine and things like that it’s subversive! All of these people are falling for literal subversion.

 

There’s also an issue where a lot of the pro-Palestine rhetoric is anti-settler colonial. Like I’ve heard these people, the same arguments they use against Israel could be used against America or Australia like and us. So we oppose Israel not because it is conducting a genocide or whatever. We oppose Israel as White nationalists because Israel is the enemy of the White race! Because jews are the enemy of the White race and they are a parasitic influence on our countries. And if these people, this is the final kicker. I think. If you said there’s nothing that we can do for them. Well, there is one thing that we can do for them. We can take control of the Right-wing of Zionists, put in actual nationalists who are anti-jew in charge of the Right us instead of Zionists which currently control the institutional Right-wing.

 

How are we going to do that? Are we going to do that by waving Palestine flags? No, because if you look at the polling in Australia for example, Islam is by far the most hated religion in Australia. The Islamic migrant community is pretty much one of, if not the most hated groups in the country by the general population, particularly by Right-wing Australians. Patriotic Australians hate Muslims, period. There was polling done on this some time ago showed that the majority of Australians want a total ban on Islamic immigration. And then particularly with Right-wing voters, like a super majority of Right-wing voters supported that policy.

 

So we have to be strong on that issue. Otherwise if you have Zionists come forward on the Right like Zionist conservatives, like the Tommy Robinsons of this world and they are tough on Islam or they create the perception that they are and they’re the patriots against Islam and we are like soft on Islam. We’re waving Palestinian flags and talking about allying with Muslims. It’s just going to confuse a whole lot of patriotic Australians that we should be rallying behind us and our movement which is trying to take over the Right-wing from the Zionists.

 

So like if you’re pro-Palestine you should understand that even like from a tactical perspective it actually doesn’t make sense for us to directly support you because it would actually ruin our ability to take the Right-wing off the Zionists. And you guys already have control of the Left-wing. The Left-wing is already largely supporting you. So that’s the final move.

 

And then once that happens, then Israel is cut off from Western support because Left and Right together will oppose Israel for different reasons and then Israel’s fucked!

 

So that’s actually in your tactical interest, but also it’s in our tactical interest to deport jews to Israel and it’s in our interest to deport Muslims back to the Middle East. We want all of you gone! From your tactical point of view, you should stay out of our way and we’ll stay out of your way. But also we have fundamentally different interests. So the alliance is not viable.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, in that regard it is a zero sum game where we want to deport all the jews to Israel and the Palestinians want to deport all the jews to our countries! And we don’t want the jews. So you guys, the Middle East is going to have to take the jews or we’re going to have to, … Maybe we can come up with a compromise where we send them all to Madagascar? I’ve heard of that plan. And maybe we’ll have to move some of the black, … I think actually the Madagascans are like a different ethnic group from regular Africans, like on the continent.

 

So maybe we can’t send them there, I don’t know.

 

Joel Davis: Madagascar as a metaphor for another place.

 

Jacob Hersant: You think it’s a metaphor for a different place? Yeah, I’m not going to talk about that because I’m a sensible wholesome chungus nationalist. I couldn’t even, I can’t believe you would suggest such a thing.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no, of course not!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna be, I’m gonna be concerned, trolling you for like 30 minutes now. Be like, how could you say such a thing?

 

[1:35:13]

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I think, I mean realistically, if you tell people to get the out of your country, you don’t actually you kind of can’t force them to go to a particular country because they could just leave that country and go somewhere else else. Right? So like you just better tell them to get the fuck out and then it’s on them to figure out where they’re going.

 

So if you tell jews get the fuck out of Australia and you know, Europeans are telling jews to get out of Europe and Americans are telling jews to get out of America and so on. Obviously they’re just going to go to Israel, like that’s the main place for them to go next.

 

So it is what it is. I don’t give a fuck where they go as long as they get out of our countries, like then the problem is solved. The main problem in the past has been that all western or all White countries didn’t deport jews all at once. It was like this city in Europe says get out jews, let’s move to another city and set up operations there and keep fucking with us. And they just kind of like jumped around different parts of Europe. We have the main I guess issue is you know, and if we just, if we take over Australia and you know, other Western countries still ZOGged out, I guess a lot of jews are going to end up going there because a problem.

 

But ideally they get out of Western countries period. And that’s one thing that I think we could try to control is that when they leave they go to a non-Western country. But we can’t really stop them once they’re gone from where they go from there. Like realistically. Like we will tell when we are trying to do remigrate a lot of these non-Whites, like we’re not going to allow them to remigrate to White countries. We’re going to force them to remigrate to non-White countries. Like we could send them back to India but then America could let them back in. Like we can’t stop it! So there’s only like a certain amount of control we have over that.

 

But at the end of the day we’re anti-jew because we’re pro-White. We’re not anti-jew just for the sake of it. And you know we call out the jews and we criticise the jews openly obviously, but it’s not the be all and end all like we have to have a comprehensive position.

 

But we’ll go through some of these more of these Superchats. Unpopular opinionator said:

 

“Australia needs a nationalist church. Get Professor Andrew Fraser and James Donald to oversee the doctrine. Former group to revise the BCP. Find a renegade Bishop who’s down and you’ll have something.”

 

Well look, sounds great but it’s not the job for me. I don’t think Jacob’s that interested in either. But if you guys want to do that, knock yourself out. Like I would much rather there be racist churches than anti-racist churches. Jacob, do you agree with that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. I agree with that.

 

Joel Davis: [word unclear] said:

 

“Hi guys. How do we address the Christian question? I see many potential White nationalists cucked into Christian nationals.”

 

What a double those two Superchats together. I mean in the National Socialist Network, in White Australia, we’re not anti-Christian. If you’re a Christian, you can join the Organisation as long as you accept the fact that it’s secular, meaning that not everyone in the organisation is of a particular religious faith. As a White Australian, you are free to explore your religious views as you see fit. We don’t allow Muslims, we don’t allow Satanists, we don’t allow Judaism obviously, but we have a few prohibitions.

 

But basically like if you want to go and fucking explore Buddhism or whatever, knock yourself out. You want to be a pagan, you want to be a Christian, you don’t really have a religious view, that’s fine! The function of the organisation is to defend our race. If you agree on its principles, then you can participate. So that’s our position.

 

Obviously the problem with Christian nationalism is this idea that you can define a nation by religion rather than by what a nation is, which is its people. Obviously we disagree with that. I don’t if the country becomes 99% non-White but everyone a Christian, it’s not Australia anymore. It’s some like racial slop that I want no part in.

 

So if you think that, like there’s no reason why as a Christian you have to accept that. The analogy I would use is that like say you’re a Christian and the other people in your family aren’t Christians, does that mean that you abandon your family and you just only associate with Christians that you aren’t related to? And pretend like they’re your family now? That would be ridiculous! Like your family is your family regardless of their religion is.

 

The same thing is true with the nation. Our nation is our nation, our people is our people, regardless of what their religious views are. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“He can see his reflection in my shiny nose.”

 

Do you have anything to say on the Christian question, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well I wouldn’t come out and attack Christianity. We come out and attack people that are against ethno-nationalists. So if there are Christians that are against ethno-nationalism that then we’re attacking Christians in that way. But people that are ethno-nationalist Christians, we have no point problem with that it’s going to be a disparate group of people that call themselves Christian nationalists. And we support the Christian nationalists that are ethno-nationalists and we oppose the ones that are universalists who think that nationality can be defined by a religion. But we say that nationality is primarily defined by blood. So when we propagandize, we criticise on that basis rather than criticising people for being Christians because we have no problem with Christians who are racists.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, like Obviously we all have personal views on the subject and in the organisation those views vary. Everyone in the organisation there’s people with different religious views in the organisation.

 

So we don’t have like one official position on religion in the organisation because we allow members to have religious freedom. They become like some stateless lunatic or like a fucking Muslim or something, we draw the line there, but we’re pretty tolerant.

 

[word unclear] said:

 

“Fellow Comrade is a half caste mutt!”

 

Well, interesting. Aussie orders88 said:

 

“How much? , …”

 

I’m not going to read this. I’m not going to give him the satisfaction of this clip. Fellow Comrades said:

 

“How do we stop gay Superchats from everyone except me?”

 

I support gay Superchats because I can just not read them out but I still get your money. So aussie orders 88 said:

 

“Indians saying they are more Australian than us Anglos as they have abo blood is fucking solid. So hilarious! I like that admission by the jeet.”

 

Did you see that Jacob? There was this Indian woman who said:

 

“They have more of a right to be here than we do because they’re related to the Aboriginals as Dravidians and we aren’t.”

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I did see that.

 

But at the same time they didn’t build anything so they can go to hell! They can get out as far as we’re concerned. They only immigrated here because. Not because of the soil, not because of the mountains, not because of the sea around this continent. But they immigrated because we built a civilisation here that they want to parasitize off. That’s the reality. Everybody understands that. Everyone understands why people are moving to Australia and they’re not moving to Africa, for example. It’s because they want to be economic parasites and they want to. Well, not only economic parasites but they want to be parasites on our civilisation. They want the material comforts that come along with living amongst White people. So they can get out as far as we’re concerned.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Also it’s just embarrassing that you’re genetically related to Aboriginals. Aboriginals are literally the most unimpressive race on the face of the planet. And it doesn’t surprise me that Indians and Aboriginals are related because they’re both vermin that in a better place planet would not exist.

 

Jacob Hersant: Would be sent to Madagascar. Is that what you’re saying?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think. Yeah. Just we probably shouldn’t go over that. Paul Bob said:

 

“How did we stop the March for Australia movement being subverted if there is no NSN presence?”

 

Well, it’ll be an experiment. We’ll see. I mean, there’s a lot of good people involved, so we’ll see how they go. Hopefully, it’s a solid event and but if, you know, it does get subverted, obviously we’ll look into what to do about future events, trying to do more of what we did last time. But from what I’ve seen it’s a solid team.

 

Jacob Hersant: If it gets subverted, then it’s not going to surpass the previous March for Australia. And it doesn’t really matter. If it gets subverted and it’s just a pathetic rally where they’re talking about multiculturalism. Maybe they’ll put on an extra Indian on the stage. Like, it was not bad enough in Brisbane when they put an Indian on the stage. Maybe they’ll put two on the stage next time.

 

But if they do that and it becomes cucked and it becomes pathetic, then it doesn’t really matter. Like the it’s just going to be like the other rally that happened. Nobody cares about it because it’s not controversial and it’s not in opposition of the establishment’s values.

 

The only reason March for Australia mattered was because the National Socialist Network was there to enforce a message that was against the establishment, against mass immigration, actually, for the historic Australian nation, for White Australia. That’s the reason why it was significant, why it was controversial, why it drew so many people out and why it was talked about so much.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but I don’t think it’ll be, … I mean, there’s issues with the Brisbane team. Some of them have made statements that are cucked on race, but I think they got a lot of negative feedback after the last one.

 

And I think they’re trying to pivot into framing that doesn’t offend actual nationalists so much. I don’t think we’re going to have another Indian on the stage. None of them wanted to take responsibility for that they all kept, like, blaming each other and so on, so I don’t think that’ll be reproduced. So it’ll be interesting to see how it goes in Brisbane.

 

But in Sydney and Melbourne, the organisers are solid like Beck and Jesse. From what everything that they’ve said, they’re clearly both nationalists. Jesse’s speech at the Sydney March for Australia was excellent! You know, he’s obviously a nationalist also. Same thing is true about Matt Trihey in Melbourne, who’s going to be running the Melbourne March for Australia. He’s obviously a nationalist.

 

So I don’t think they’re gonna cuck in Sydney and Melbourne. And it’s the same people that were running it last time across the country. So they were pretty solid last time in their bias and their, in their kind of orientation. The messaging was pretty good what they were putting out like officially to the public.

 

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So yeah, I think it’s kind of the first one kind of said it like what it is and now it’s just kind of hopefully maintain that trajectory and then you know, we can intervene in the future if necessary as best we can to continue channeling it in the right direction if necessary. But we’ll see how they go now. They got established with the first one, it was a success and see how things go in the future.

 

But you know, again we’re gonna mobilise on Australia Day. We’re willing to take on all the risks associated for Australia Day because Australia Day is one of the most important days of the year. Only the Anzac Day is as important or more important than Australia Day. So we always march on Australia Day and we always will. Let’s see what else we got here. Blah, blah.

 

[word unclear] also said, oh no, sorry, I read that one already. Natalie said:

 

“Will White Australia criminalise race mixing?”

 

The approach that we’re going to take with policies, we are going to not have like a million policies on everything. We’re probably, we’re going to have our core policies, we’re going to put it forward and we’re going to say these are our policies. If we were elected as the government, these are the things, these are like the top 10 priorities in our opinion that need to be fixed.

 

There’s obviously more things that need to be done in general. But these are like 10 or whatever, we haven’t got the exact number. These are the core priorities policy wise and we’re just going to put all our energy as a political party on these things and then once they’re achieved, then we can look at adding the next 10 policies and we can bring them back to the people and see if they want to support us on that. But these are the 10 things we’re going to ask for your support on and try and build a support base on and you can be for it or against it.

 

So I don’t know if making laws about race mixing is worthy of being in that top 10 priority stack because you know, one of our policies is going to be mass deporting non-White.

 

So if you kind of deport all the non-Whites, there’s not going to be much race mixing happening after that point. So ideally it would be banned, it would be illegal I think in an ideal world. But it might not be the, it might not be in the initial list of priorities. Do you have a different opinion? Do you think it needs to be in the policies or?

 

Jacob Hersant: I think people understand that we’re going to criminalise race mixing because we’re going to deport all these non-Whites. I think what you said. Yeah it makes sense. Like we don’t need to say these are our policies and then like seven of them are like all about how we’re going to solve the non-White problem. Like there’s obviously going to be a lot of things. But I think the policy should just be yeah, re-migration and that’s when you say when we say we’re going to re-migrate all these people, all these people understand that there’s also going to be a lot of other things that we’re going to legislate like criminalizing miscegenation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And when we go to like say we’re in a coalition or we’re working with a coalition of Right-wing parties, like you don’t know how it would end up fleshing out. You know we’re not going to be like well our condition for being in this coalition is that you create anti-miscegenation laws or something. Like we’re obviously going to prioritize like immigration and re-migration policy as like our number one priority for or working with the other groups like make concessions to us here. Maybe we’ll make concessions to you guys on other policies we’re not going to like. So yeah it’s about priority stack. We’re going to put the policies in an order of priority so that when people vote for us it’s like you’re voting for these priorities. Like you know if we have like there’s no point having like policies on like side issues that we’re not going to be, that’s not going to be one of our main issues because you know that’s not what it’s about.

 

So we’re not going to have like 38,000 policies. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Fat gay black retards for Trump with Down Syndrome!”

 

I don’t know what he’s going on about. Liam Ford said:

 

“What is your advice to guys who have a mixed race kid and now regret it? This advice is not for me by the way. I’m just curious.”

 

Jacob, you want to take this one? What’s your advice?

 

Jacob Hersant: What to do with the mongrel spawn? Just have nothing to do with it! That’s my advice. Like I’ll never get myself in the situation. But if somehow someone. I think VicPol [Victorian police] have my DNA because of the Cathedral Rangers thing, if they somehow like transferred some of those like saliva cells into like sperm and then impregnated a non-White and I sired a child through that, through like what is it called? IVF. If that child appeared before me just randomly, then the only thing to do is to have nothing to do with it. And that’s probably the only time when I will advise someone to abandon a child. You shouldn’t abandon a child if it’s White and it’s yours. No matter how much the issues you have with like the mother or something like that, I’d say never abandon a child if it is of your blood, but if it is not of your blood, then have nothing to do with it.

 

Joel Davis: And if you’re like a total cuck who can’t abandon the kid, then what I would say is get your non-White family and move to wherever the mother is from and go join her tribe. So just basically eat it.

 

[1:52:51]

 

If you want to leave them there and come back, then Jacob’s strategy then even better. But you’re too much of a cuck. Then just stay over there. You got like a half Thai kid, go live in Thailand and just that’s the path you decided. So accept it. If you truly believe that White people should have their own countries, then you should not be in our country anymore because you’re you know, spiritually non-White now. Like you’re literally like in terms of like your bloodline. You’re now, you’ve left the tribe. So see you later!

 

Heidi Ellen said:

 

“Good to see Jacob tonight.”

 

And she threw a Roman with little O slash thing. And she said:

 

“I definitely need women involved at least in terms of political campaign and support roles. We’ll forgive Joel for his misogyny. Race.”

 

Well, there you go. See this is the thing with women. You can get away with misogyny if you earn it, you earn the rights of say misogynistic shit play by doing other things that are so awesome that you outweigh it. To make women not care that we’re misogynists.

 

Jacob Hersant: Did they give you the Misogynist Pass? You need like an actual card printed out, pass.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: And you just say:

 

“A woman gave this to me. I’m allowed to say it now. I’m allowed to say insensitive comments about women..”

 

Joel Davis: That would make me not want to do anymore. Because now, like, I’m like, now I’m like, subordinating myself to the gynocracy by like, seeking its approval. So maybe, like, there’s an argument that feminism isn’t so bad. Like, if we’re going to have all these Nazi activists, like, women are girl bossing these days, send your wife to work, let the bitch work, and then focus your time on reading Mein Kampf and doing NSN rallies and so on because they’ve got washing machines and fucking ovens and stuff now, like, being a homemaker is not that hard. Let’s be real. It’s pretty easy.

 

Jacob Hersant: It was funny when you brought it up and [chuckling] you’re like:

 

“I know I’ve said a lot of misogynist things and I apologise for absolutely nothing!”

 

Joel Davis: Oh, I support feminism now. Like you think about it like women, like, if you take like, [words unclear] work seriously, like, if they, if women truly lack, like, subjectivity in the way that men have it. Men should be free to pursue, you know, culture, art, ponder, and we can women there’s like, they just need to be told what to do anyway, so you might as well make money out of it. And so maybe feminism is a good idea. Maybe like the final misogyny red pill is like feminist accelerationism. Free men from ZOG, hard labour! And no, obviously I’m kidding! But Southern Sun 77 said:

 

“What are your thoughts on the Maltese and their devotion to the empire?”

 

I don’t really consider Maltese people White, to be honest. I think from a genetic standpoint, they’re actually less related to us than jews. So I think if you’re going to draw the line where we Keep jews, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Depends on what types of jews obviously, like, there’s different types of jews.

 

Joel Davis: Ashkenazi jews. If we draw the line where Ashkenazi jews are non-White, then we also would have to say Maltese and on non-White.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, it depends. I think there would be gradations with Maltese as well. Like there are with Sicilians and Greeks and things like that. So there would be ones that are more miscegenated with North African DNA and Levantine DNA from the history of Barbary piracy.

 

And then there would be ones that are like a little bit more White. But I don’t know, I guess you’d have to do an eye test for people that trying to join White nationalist organisations. There might be ones that are like very swarthy and they look like they’re fully North African.

 

Joel Davis: Philip Mailer said:

 

“What’s your advice on how to meet good women?”

 

Well, I’ll tell you this, good women, they should sign up as political supporters, come down to the White Australia seminars and events and you can meet a man of, who has far-Right beliefs. There’s a lot of women out there complaining they can’t find good men and so on. Well, here’s your chance. Join, join us. And there’s plenty of young bachelors at those events. And then I would say to you, sir, come down and pick up one of these fine ladies.

 

Do you have any advice, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, you just gotta go somewhere where there actually are women. You could just go out on the streets and start talking to random people. I don’t think most people are going to do that because there’s a lot of, it’s like, takes a lot of energy to be able to like go and talk to strangers. But you gotta join, you just gotta go. It could be anything. You could go into a profession that has women in it. You could go to university. There’s a lot of women there. You just need to go somewhere where there actually are women that you can start interacting with and then start, start talking to them.

 

That’s the most, [chuckling] that’s what a lot of people need to do because some people are spending too much time, especially people that are far-Right. We have interests that are male dominated so there’s not really that much opportunity to go out and find women. So I say you just the main thing is to go out and expose your. That was like the worst way to say that don’t expose yourself to women, but go and find women where they are. Yeah, [chuckling] that’s like the worst way to be say that! Don’t expose yourself to women! [chuckling]

 

[1:58:57]

 

Joel Davis: David P said:

 

“Never have I felt more proud than I was marching alongside fellow common sense patriots on the 31st. Keep up the good work, lads. Hail Sewell! Hail White Australia!”

 

Well, that’s a nice Chungus. Superchat. Aussie orders88 said:

 

“What’s your favourite song off Taylor Swift’s new album?”

 

Well, what kind of, … I’m not going to read the rest of that. What kind of question is that? RSA Liberty said:

 

“I joined late. Did you cover the NSN MFA press release? Hail Thomas Sewell!”

 

We did earlier in the show. Aussie orders 88 said:

 

“We looked up the mortgage numbers. Australian banks collect 20 billion a month in mortgage repayments. The average household would save 30k a year if mortgages were interest free.”

 

Some good, some good facts. [words unclear] said:

 

“TND. How do we avoid these national marches being taken over by the wrong crowd?”

 

We already dealt with that. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“When I think of politics, I think of mullets. When is Jacob going to grow out a mullet? It’s the right thing to do.”

 

That’s a it’s a great Superchat actually. I think it’s absolutely fantastic Superchat!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna stick to this style. This is my style and I’m not somebody that changes very quickly. So I think you’re going to be seeing me clean shaven with the short hair indefinitely.

 

Joel Davis: James UK 76 said:

 

“Hail the NSN! Love from White Vanguard!”

 

Well, I’m seeing White Vanguard getting out on the streets and doing something over in Britain which is admirable! And they stole our jackets but it looks cool so that they’re welcome to steal our jacket selection.

 

Jacob Hersant: They can take it. People are free to take whatever they want from our organising. If they want to wear the black, the Black Shirt, we support it. If you want to say “White Man Fight Back”, we support it. We want people to take up these bits of propaganda because the reason we do it is because we see value in it. So if other countries, groups, want to do that, we fully support that.

 

Joel Davis: Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Can you recommend me some women to Superchat?”

 

No, keep Superchatting me. Why do you want to give women your money?

 

Jacob Hersant: We got to get you on OnlyFans Joel. So that all the OnlyFans simps can send you money instead of these online prostitutes.

 

Joel Davis: Real! Yeah. Although I got some moves, I got some moves I think that people will appreciate. Kee five 5 said:

 

“How would you contrast NSN with what Patriot Front is doing in the US? They seem similar but less militant than you guys.”

 

I wouldn’t really say that that’s the main distinction. I think they probably have a lot of similarities in like how they are organised and how they do like street actions and stuff. I think probably the main distinction is more like the tone, like the approach to act like the kind of goals with activism and yeah like obviously like there’s a bit of an ideological distinction. They’re not National Socialists. So yeah. But I think the differences speak for themselves. I don’t really need to like explain them. If you don’t get it, then maybe just pay more attention. But obviously we’re friends with the Patriot Front guys.

 

Aussie orders 88 said:

 

“I’m reading these in a weird order.”

 

That’s correct. But trying to get through them all. BigWhite94 said:

 

“Much support. I love you lads. You give White men hope in the struggle.”

 

That’s a very nice thing to say. And Flo Bubba Noonga said:

 

“Thoughts on the British-Australian Community? Are they Zionists?”

 

I don’t think the British-Australian Community has a position on zionism. I think there’s some people in their organisation that are Zionists, but there’s also many people in their organisation who are critical of Israel and critical of jews even so there’s a bit of a spectrum. That’s what I’ve seen from the outside looking in. My general thought in the British-Australian Community is that I don’t think it’s the correct strategy for us to just start behaving like a minority, just to accept minority status and then just try and get a seat at the table of multiculturalism. I think that’s capitulation. And I don’t think it’s particularly inspiring. I don’t think it’ll work.

 

 

[See: Snitch journalism at the Sydney Morning Herald]

 

The justification that I heard given by Frank Salter for it is:

 

“Well, even if it doesn’t work, it’ll prove that multiculturalism is anti-White and anti-Anglo!”

 

It’s like, we don’t need you to prove that! Like it’s already pretty blatant. So I don’t really see the point in that, I think.

 

But fundamentally, them trying to advocate for the interests of Anglo Australians, I do support that, because I’m an Anglo Australian. I want people advocating for my interests and there are good people that are involved.

 

So I don’t have like an issue with them. But at the same time, obviously we have our own organisation where we do things differently because was if we agreed with their approach to things, we would be part of their organisation and doing it their way rather than our way.

 

So what do you think? Do you have thoughts on the British-Australian Community Jacob? I know you’ve known guys in the organisation and have known about them for some time. So you probably have, …

 

Jacob Hersant: I don’t know a lot of people in the BAC anymore. I knew more people back when it was Mark Moncrief in control of it, but now it’s, I think its Frank Salter that’s in charge. But it may be someone else.

 

Joel Davis: Harry Richardson is the president. Frank Salter seems to be kind of like a bit of a spokesperson of sorts and like the most well known public intellectual or something. But he’s not actually the president.

 

[2:05:30]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. I don’t agree with a lot of the branding. Like coming up with the word “Anglophobia” and things like that. I think “anti-White” has already been mainstreamed and everyone. That’s what we use.

 

There was a recent article that came out about two people that are involved in the BAC. This Leftist piece of shit journalist was trying to get them fired. But at the bottom of the article, these two people who were involved were cucking and saying:

 

“We don’t even use the word ‘White’ because we don’t want to be associated with the people who use the word White.”

 

And they were saying, …

 

Joel Davis: That wasn’t the two of them. That was just what Stephen Chavura said. It wasn’t what McInerney said.

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh yeah.

 

Joel Davis: McInerney is better, much better than Chavura. McInerney criticises jews and he’s obviously, … That’s why I cut you off! Just because I don’t, …

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m glad you cleared that up because. Yeah. But yeah, saying that kind of stuff is crazy! It’s like they’re watering down something that has already been mainstreamed. People do talk about being White. People do talk about the fact that this government is anti-White and they wanna change it? Yeah, I don’t understand it. I don’t like it. We’re gonna stick to being White Australians and we’re going to be talking about the anti-White nature of this system.

 

And the reality is we are in line with the historic Australian nation. When they came up with a policy, they called it the White Australia Policy. They didn’t call it the Anglo-Australian policy. They didn’t talk about Anglophobia or anything like. Well, they didn’t even really talk about anti-White because it wasn’t an issue back then. But they would be talking about anti-White. They would be talking about White Australians. So we continue in that tradition.

 

Joel Davis: It’s also weird, like Stephen Chavura is the guy that’s going to lecture us on how we should refer to ourselves as Anglo-Celtic rather than White. But he’s not even Anglo-Celtic. Like Chabura, that’s not a Angelo last name. That’s not a Scottish, …

 

Jacob Hersant: What ethnicity is it?

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know exactly, but you can tell by looking at him that he’s clearly not an Anglo.

 

And again, I’m not saying that he’s not White obviously, but just kind of makes it even more silly.

 

And then he also said in those comments he doesn’t like using the term “White Australia”. Number one is he’s going to be associated with people who use that term, i.e., us.

 

And number two, because for him it’s not just about race, it’s also about culture. But like, culture obviously comes from race. What are you saying? You can be culturally Anglo-Celtic without actually being of our stock? That doesn’t actually make any sense.

 

So it’s kind of like a silly position. He also started an organisation recently called Australian Sons where they said that they would welcome non-Whites in who are Christians.

 

Jacob Hersant: Hmmm, …

 

Joel Davis: So it shows that he is weak on the race question. And I don’t think the other members, … All the other members of the BAC are much better on the question. So I wouldn’t want to say that he, his personal positions are indicative of the BAC in general. I think BAC allows people like him to be involved, but there’s a spectrum in this that they allow.

 

So I don’t think it’s fair to slander the BAC as a Zionist organisation. But I think it’s fair to criticise them for tolerating zionism because I don’t think they should tolerate it. I don’t think people who defend the state of Israel can be truly trusted as advocates for our people. Because jews are very clearly a hostile group that is directly antagonistic to our interests of people.

 

 

And even in Frank Salter’s book Anglophobia, which I read, I agree with you, by the way, that I don’t think it’s a term that we should really adopt because anti-White is far more mainstream than Anglophobia. And also using terms that have phobia in it is weaker than anti. Like jews don’t call you know, Judeophobic. They use anti-semitic. That’s more like potent as a phrase.

 

Jacob Hersant: And the very issue is that these people aren’t Anglophobic. They aren’t scared of us! [chuckling] That’s why they’re doing what they’re doing! If they were scared of us, they wouldn’t even come here! They’re just anti-White. That’s why they’re being so aggressive against us.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

So it’s just like a, it’s the wrong term. They want to say anti-Anglo, I’d say that’s better than saying Anglophobic. Because a lot of these are anti-Anglo too. Like for example, like Indians are very animated by an anti-Anglo animus specifically because of their grievances about being colonised by the British Empire and so on.

 

So I’m not obviously we’re not hostile to advocacy for Anglo-Australians or something like that. Some organisation should exist to advocate for Anglo-Australian interests. But that’s the other thing as well. They say:

 

“Oh, we advocate for Anglo-Australians and everyone who had. Everyone who has assimilated into the Anglo Australian stock.”

 

For most people in the BAC, only White people can do that. So then you basically are advocating for White Australians then because that basically is everyone who’s White. Or you’re like Stephen Chavura and you kind of leave it more ambiguous because you want to be able to go on Sky News and you know, you go to a church full of Zionists that you associate with or something. So then he waters it down even further. Where it’s:

 

“Well, Anglos are a distinct ethnic group that should be maintained as a majority, but it’s more about British culture. And if like non — Whites adopt British values then they can become part of our national family.”

 

And then it’s like you’re a hop, skip and jump away from like who we basically are, like a civic nationalist at that point. Then like what? Once you water it down to that level then like what position do you even have? He seems to be a foot on both sides of the fence guy, Stephen Chavura.

 

So I don’t respect him. Pick a team!

 

[2:11:50]

 

But I will say this, that most of the people in the BAC have picked the right team. I just don’t agree with the strategy. In Frank Salter’s book Anglophobia, he criticises the jewish influence, jewish lobby. So give him credit for that. He doesn’t cuck on the jewish question. And Stephen McInerney criticises jewish influence as well. So like a lot of their public facing people do criticise jewish influence.

 

So yeah, Matthew Maculatorin said:

 

“So when Jacob goes to prison, that’s when the mullet and full beard comes, like Stephen Wells?”

 

Jacob Hersant: I think you can get haircuts in there. I don’t think you have to grow it out.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think if I go to prison I’ll shave it off. I’ll become a prison skinhead. Big White 94 said:

 

“Much support and love to you lads.”

 

Oh, I already read that one. So nice. I read it twice, I guess.

 

And I think that could be basically it. Oh, crazy recluse. Last Superchat:

 

“Lebs [Lebanese] run a lot of Australian prisons. Is that a problem that they may try to target a strong White man like Tom in there?”

 

Well, number one, Tom is isolated from the other prisoners because, not because they’re worried about him being attacked. They’ll be quite fine with him being attacked. They’re worried about him organising all the White boys in jail into a giant [chuckling] prison gang! Recruiting them to the NSN when they get out and him taking over the prisons. So they put him in very restricted conditions, solitary conditions. So he will be fine.

 

But also what I’ve heard from Tom is that when he was getting marched through the aisle of the jail and Lebos saw him from their jail cells or whatever, they were yelling out support because they saw that the NSN beat up Abby Yemeni’s bodyguards and they were throwing Romans and found that to be quite amusing! So I don’t know, maybe there’s a certain amount of respect that he has from that community.

 

So also, it’s Melbourne. Melbourne doesn’t have as many lebos as Sydney. It’s different. But yeah. I think that could be it for the show tonight. Is there anything you wanted to touch on before we, … Oh, wait, one more Superchat, Georgie L said:

 

“Thank the gods a White man.”

 

And she sent a love heart. Well, that’s very nice of you. See, on the Joel and Jacob show, we are massive respecters of women, unlike The Joel and Blair Show where we usually, … [chuckling]

 

Is there anything you want to say before the end of the stream?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, I think we covered a lot. I think it was a good show. I’m happy to come on whenever. It normally just takes a lot for me to set up things, but now that I’ve got my new Rune background, I should be able to come on more frequently.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, it’s a sick background, but yeah, it’s a good show. Good to have you on a stream where we have Blair as well. I do like the three man streams as well. Two man is cozy. Three men sometimes can be dynamic, but, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Dynamic! [chuckling] No. Thank you for having me on. Blood and honour!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Hail victory! White power! You said blood and honour so I didn’t have to. And White Australia.org! Go to White Australia.org and join. Become a political support. Or even better, come one of the men in black, become an activist. Come down, we’ll teach you how to kickbox. Or you already know how to. Even better, you can beat up some of the guys who don’t know how to kickbox yet and teach them how to kickbox. And march with us. We got plenty of activism planned and it’s going to be a lot happening. So join the movement and we’ll see you next time.

 

 

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007lyse
7 hours ago
Life Chain in northern not so On terrible anymore polled 80 thumbs up (not including 60people there) to 12 thumbs down. The degenerates are dwindling. Poor lame death cultists are unaware 2 middle fingers is way worse than one. Lol
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frosty85
8 hours ago
Joel get a new microphone, your sound is terrible compared to jacobs.
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ForRealers
16 hours ago
Left Wing / Right Wing, should now be defined as: Brown Wing / White Wing… or…. just identify the left as anti white wing
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TinyHatRemover
Supporter
18 hours ago
Send the jews to India.
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palacepony
SubSupporter
18 hours ago
Keith Woods in Poland & Germany; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylx6R8zz670
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katana17
18 hours ago
[Joel Davis – Ain’t No Party Like the White Australia Party – Oct 5, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/10/06/joel-davis-aint-no-party-like-the-white-australia-party-oct-5-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Jacob Hersant discuss the following:

1. Jacob Hersant appears as guest host, while Blair takes a week off, discussing daylight savings and its German origins during WWI.

2. Jacob argues that people motivated by politics for non-racist reasons have “something wrong with them” as politics involves “debates over minutia.”

3. They criticise Gerard Rennick’s new party for being “extremely boring” and focused on policies that won’t “grab headlines” or motivate strong emotions.

4. Jacob explains their political strategy: “controversy is currency in, particularly on the political Right in the contemporary era.”

5. They discuss building toward establishing a political party, needing 1, 500 supporters across Australia to register federally.

6. Progress has been delayed due to charges against members following the “Camp Sovereignty incident” where “anti-fascists were attacking Australian patriots.”

7. Thomas Sewell (national leader) and another member are currently in prison, with bail hearings being organised.

8. Joel notes One Nation has “doubled its vote according to the polls” and is now “polling at like 13%” above the Greens.

9. They identify a “massive gap in the market for a kind of youth focused nationalism” as existing parties appeal mainly to “boomers.”

10. Jacob explains legal benefits of party registration, and currently how: “Victoria police will lie through their teeth and say this isn’t a political organisation at all! This isn’t a registered political party. It’s a criminal group.”

11. Joel argues the party provides “a way for the Australian public to buy into the movement en masse” as a “soft on ramp.”

And more, …..
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
white woman step up and stop banging blk and brown. stop the social media brain washing and normalization of degeneracy
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
local politicians, immigration agents, real estate agents, local councils, NGO, lobbyists, some church groups, immigrant services, ethnic councils, libraries, business people, building developers and investors, are the main enemies in your area! act locally.
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
some advice, if u gonna to enter the political arena , u need experience. get some guys to find jobs within the AEC, go to local council meetings and enter local council elections undercover, volunteer for other parties, go to election booth, volunteer as scrutineers at voting day, and speak to people. most of the NWO and immigration in done through local councils.! they corrupt asf
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Sieger88
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22 hours ago
The whole Weeb culture is why White men are into Asians.
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BrossefStalin
15 hours ago
Also because they are more feminine than the feminist brainwashed White women. They are still traditional mostly if their parents still retain Asian culture
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imSofaKingRayZest
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1 hour ago
those “traditional” asians very quickly succumb to kosher feminism from their new “western” girlfriends and turn into even viler women so as well as destroying your genetic heritage you are worse off in the end with yellow fever.
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Snow_Whitee
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So, where does one find an original copy of Mein Kampf without Jewish commentary?
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RealTruePatriot
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The most recent and best translation is by Thomas Dalton. This is a good site to purchase a physical copy from: https://www.clemensandblair.com/catalog/mein-kampf-two-volumes Or you can download free PDFs here: https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-vol-1-2-dalton-translation-by-thomas-dalt-240208-110759 https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-redpill-action-publications-2021 Or you can listen to audiobook: https://t.me/HeebWatch/3757
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SackOPossums
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Stalag or nothing. https://archive.org/details/meinkampf_202404
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Snow_Whitee
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Perfect. Thank you! Exact type of bookstore I was looking for too.. Won’t let me join the telegram channel, I prefer reading anyway but thanks for all the info
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
https://ostarapublications.com/product/mein-kampf-stalag-edition/ An exact reproduction of the only official English translation produced by the NSDAP, meant to be given to POWs to sway their favor while captured. Good quality and affordable. If you just want access to the text, it is archived and available for free here: https://archive.org/details/meinkampf_202404
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Snow_Whitee
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Oh, interesting.. have you read the Dalton one as well as this one? Curious to know if there’s a huge difference? I’ll probably eventually look into both. Thanks so much!
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AmalekAvenger
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the Dalton translation is the best … please get that one
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Snow_Whitee
21 hours ago
Thank you!!
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Neqis
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I could listen to these guys talking about interracial couples forever, golden content
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Scovell7
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Abandon your child because they are mixed race? You guys come across as fanatical at times.
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Keane55
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Man, Jacob’s setup is killer
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AmalekAvenger
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yes. he needs to help joel sort out his studio and sound. Joel always sounds like he is in a drum or silo
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imSofaKingRayZest
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2 things wrong with the white australia policy, 1, it ended and 2, it let in jews.
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Motown88
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National Socialism would be neither far right nor far left, it would seem to be more centrist with a mixture of socialist policy for supporting the collectivisation of White Aussies and conservative capitalist in terms of our heritage preservation and encouragement of individual meritocracy.
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Neqis
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It would probably be the most accurate to call it Authoritarian or radical centrism, if we are to use the traditional political compass.
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evon626
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Look….. there exist Arab and Persian women who are hotter than any white woman I’ve seen.
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ArchipelagoWoes
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Gay and retarded.
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1Antonius
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Your guru, Hersant, has visible Iranic traits.
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evon626
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Like what?
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SackOPossums
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Then breed out. We don’t need you if you don’t have strong enough in-group preference to not stick it in a sand snatch.
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evon626
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1 day ago
Let’s clarify: The average white woman is 10x hotter than the average woman from any other race. In the range of extreme beauty, however, there exist hotter Middle East women, just barely. Nonetheless, is incumbent upon white men to only reproduce with white women.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
Like his nose, eyes, eyebrows and hair color.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
The situation we’re facing is dire and not every man will have an opportunity to find his “perfect” white match. Finding an European looking middle eastern (Arab, Persian Turkish/Ottoman) willing to give you 7 kids is much more beneficial than standing around and coping. Just my 5cents…
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evon626
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This is a controversial take but I agree. It’s hard to formulate easily understandable rules for this though, so I’m fine with the mantra remaining “Only date white” since someone will bang an afro-arab and say “I thought you said we could bang arabs!” With genetic testing, I think we’ll be able to pick out those North Indian / Iranian / Arab women who are as Aryan as a blonde Swede. When everyone’s genome is mapped and public, then perhaps an easily understandable rule could be formulated, like “Only mate with >90% Yamnaya-descended women” or some such.
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1Antonius
20 hours ago
Yes, it is controversial and as you can see most morons here who happen to behave identically to the retards they pretend hating will downvote you to hell. These are hard times, man, and not everyone has the luxury of others.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
I agree. Their fetishism of blondes is pathetic.
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SackOPossums
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Blondes? I only dig white women and don’t even prefer blondes.
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Gurifisu
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Love seeing Jacob on the show. o/
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RomanSaluter
1 day ago
BLAIR SUCKS AND IS RETARDED! KEEP JACOB AND TOM! FUCK BLAIR!
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BasedKyubey
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Jacob Hersant looks like an AI.
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RealTruePatriot
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Eric Striker was recently chimping out at European nationalists because they don’t like seeing their national monuments vandalized by pro-Palestine Antifa rioters. I used to enjoy some of the historical material covered on Warstrike, but he has completely lost the plot.
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v0lum3
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Striker is brown himself. It’s no surprise he has become a third worldist, like Fuentes.
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evon626
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Italian?
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v0lum3
1 day ago
He’s Puerto Rican or something.
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Neqis
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I love Warren but can’t stand Striker, wish Warren dropped him and teamed up with someone better
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
WarStrike is one of the dumbest shows in the sphere. No idea why it’s as popular as it is. Pretty sure Striker is some flavor of white-adjacent non, like a puerto rican or something similar.
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ArchipelagoWoes
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Your low IQ reply is why you don’t get the show.
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RealTruePatriot
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Here’s a crazy fact that White normies really need to hear: If you have a mixed-race child, you are more closely genetically related to some random White child that you see walking down the street than you are to your own mixed-race child. If you want to perpetuate your genetic material, it’s better to adopt a White child than have a mixed-race child. https://x.com/JFGariepy/status/1827386764673028112
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Motown88
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No coal burning, no oil drilling and keep off the rice wine…
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White_Dogs_House
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Can’t get organ transplants. Can’t receive bone marrow. Wait till you see the artificial organ and cybernetics market boom.
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
Red Indians are around 2% of the US population. Unless you live in Alaska, near a reservation, or go to one of their casinos, you rarely see them. Also, a lot of them have White admixture at this point. It’s not the 1700s anymore. I used to hook up with one, and I was certain that she was White. She claimed to be native, and I told her she was full of shit, so she pulled out her tribal membership card to show me. In the US, Gen-Z is 40% Hispanic, so that’s why you’ll see low-tier White guys with them.
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Neqis
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It’s probably much less than 2%, it’s just cool and comes with benefits to identify as non-White. Same thing happened in Brazil, where the population of people who identify as mixed or native blew up because it stopped being cool to be just White, also in Australia so many Whites identify as aboriginals because it is cool and gives them an identity..
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BrossefStalin
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Crazy that identifying as the race that conquered the world and invented everything was propagandized to be “not cool” such a losers mentality
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TheShowgun
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Fuck i missed the stream
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[The Offaly Offensive – Tim Lutze – Part 2 – Sep 27, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/09/27/the-offaly-offensive-tim-lutze-part-2-sep-27-2025-transcript/ [In Part 2 Graham Connolly continues with his talk with Aussie nationalist and State Leader of White Australia Tim Lutze about how his boxing gym, Legacy, was forced to close, and subsequent involvement in political rallies with the NSN, including the recent massive March for Australia event. – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 22,475 – Duration: 107 mins]
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1Antonius
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Why have you still not addressed the issue some people pointed out in the top comments of your previous live-video ?
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
Tom is not a snitch. He did not snitch while in prison. This is old drama that subversives are trying to start up. Tom was in communication with other based White guys while in prison. The guys were located in a different area of the prison, so they exchanged letters through the mail. They discussed having Tom ask to be moved to the same cell block as them. This is a common practice in Australia. The prison staff regularly facilitates such requests and places similar races together. None of this was a secret. All prison communications are monitored. The prison staff could see that he was in communication with those guys and that they were friends. It was not a secret to the prison staff. Asking to be moved into the same cell block as your friends after they all discuss it is not snitching.
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Carnierge
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Some of the people let’s just say in the more wignat proximate spaces are more privy to gaol lingo and prison etiquette, and they don’t like what Sewell said in that clip you’re referring to nobody else. People who are more Nat con, further right conservatives, ethnat lites, groyper adjacent etc don’t care because they aren’t interested in the criminal underworld aryan prison gang thing and have never been to prison because they don’t break the law. This is an issue for people who care about Australian prison politics to have. Stay out of prison but if you do go in try and come home as quick as you can. If Sewell ever gets sorted back into the main it might be the worst thing to happen to him so the governor did him a favour by not obliging.
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
If any of those guys that were in prison with Tom thought that Tom had snitched on them, they could have come forward at any time. Prison politics in the US is not like Australia. This is some drama that Hammer started a couple of years ago when he got butthurt about Tom saying that men in South Africa need to kill rapists. Hammer was on stream with Tom and said nothing at the time about Tom being a snitch, but decided to bring it up later when he was mad at Tom.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
Personally, I would like them to come forward, acknowledge this and be transparent about it. But they don’t… And that’s a big minus.
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
That old video is from the Truthslap channel on Bitchute. That guy is a schizophrenic who fedjackets everyone. You look like a subversive trying to share anything from that nutjob.
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1Antonius
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You’re babbling about fedjacketing, but you’re doing exactly the same thing, you fucking moron, LOL.
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FlubbaBubbaNoonga
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What was the issue
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RealTruePatriot
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Some schizophrenic named Truthslap on Bitchute is a nutjob who fedjackets everyone in the scene. Tom did not snitch on anyone.
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imSofaKingRayZest
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vid of him admiting to being a snitch
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RealTruePatriot
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Tom asked to be transferred to the same cell block as his friends. The prison staff already knew that they were his friends because all communications are monitored and they were sending letters through the mail between their different cell blocks. The friends encouraged Tom to come join them. This is a common practice in Australian prisons. You have to be a bad actor or extremely misinformed to suggest that Tom is a snitch.
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imSofaKingRayZest
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i thought as much but as it was mentioned in the last vid a few have felt it needed to be cleared up
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WhiteBitchTripleSix
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Perhaps join the NSM if you like pointless drama so much and not accomplishing anything.
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SackOPossums
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Because it was addressed… in the same stream the clip was from… 4 fucking years ago. The context is clear. You’re either retarded or intentionally subversive.
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1Antonius
20 hours ago
Not everyone was around 6 years ago you fuckface ! And I don’t care for you to explain the situation. I want Joel and the heads of this organization to come out as transparent. Absolute moron you guys are… A man asking for clarification and I get you retards instead. Reddit-level mongrels.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Hermes: All right, guys, we are here with Steve Laws. Thank you for joining me.

 

Steve Laws: No worries mate.

 

Hermes: If people don’t know who you are, just tell a little bit about yourself, introduce yourself a little bit.

 

Steve Laws: So effectively, I’ll probably be called a “re-migration activist” these days. I’ve stood in elections, I’ve campaigned for re-migration, I used to highlight illegal immigration and so forth.

 

So ultimately just an anti-immigration activist to simplify. But we just want them all to gone!

 

Hermes: Okay, how did you kind of start doing this? Because I know you’ve been in the, I guess doing this for a long time. What were the steps leading up to that? What made you kind of jump into this and do what you do today?

 

Steve Laws: So I didn’t really intend on getting involved in any of this at all! Back going back about six years ago now, it was the illegal immigration and the dinghies were flooding over and no one was really knowing anything about it. It wasn’t covered on the media. So I’d go down the docks, I’d start filming it, I’d upload the footage online and it sort of just grew from there.

 

And then obviously the more research you do, you realise illegal immigration is far worse. You start campaigning down that route, you lead everyone to understand the problems and the demographic changes we’re facing and then everything sort of snowballs to the point where we’re at now.

 

Hermes: Okay. So was it a single moment or was it, was there a main moment that you could kind of pinpoint that kind of flipped the switch in your brain?

 

Steve Laws: No, it was actually really petty.

 

So I was talking to my friend, he didn’t believe me that the illegals were coming over and getting loaded straight onto coaches. Me being petty just went straight down there to prove a point. I was like:

 

“There you go, this is happening!”

 

He was like:

 

“Oh my God, this is happening!”

 

Assume loads of other people didn’t, considering that was my friend who lived local. And then from there it just escalated.

 

So there wasn’t really a pinpoint in one single incident. It just snowballed over time.

 

Hermes: And this was six years ago?

 

Steve Laws: About six, seven years ago, yeah, give or take.

 

Hermes: Old are you today?

 

Steve Laws: I’m 34 now. I’m getting on a bit. [chuckling] Not like you guys!

 

Hermes: Thirty four. So what is kind of your main focus now? What do you think the biggest problem in Britain is today?

 

Steve Laws: So immigration is the biggest problem we face pretty much all over Europe and in terms of the Western world.

 

But ultimately the main priority we need is re-migration. Everyone in this country needs to get behind the idea of mass deportations. It doesn’t matter if they’re a foreign criminal, illegal immigrant, whether that was born here, they came over legally. It’s all already irrelevant! They’ve all got to go! We’re on the course to become a minority in our homeland. We’re not going to tolerate that. Everyone’s got to go until we can protect that!

 

Hermes: Some people think British people can be black. Do you think they can be?

 

Steve Laws: No, [laughter] not a chance, mate! This is embarrassing. [chuckling] No, they can’t!

 

Hermes: So what makes someone British?

 

Steve Laws: Well, it’s through ancestry and through blood. Blood and soil. That is what our people are. There’s no denying this. It’s simple fact. It’s Law of nature. To say an African is English is just embarrassing!

 

In fact, it’s ridiculous and it’s insulting, as an Englishman, for somebody to say that.

 

Hermes: In these past six years, it seems like the tides have shifted a lot. Like, even someone, a figure like Tommy Robinson, I know you guys have had your back and forth, has gotten a lot more popular. He obviously holds some controversial views. Obviously you don’t agree with everything, probably a lot of what he does, but how much have the tide shifted these past, I guess, six years?

 

Steve Laws: So I’d say even in just the last year, an awful lot. Since the Southport riots, an awful lot changed.

 

So the demographic situation, people were very aware of it. They realised that even people that have come over as children and grown up and they’re so-called “integrated immigrants” can go on and be a brutal murderer and stab three little girls, and so forth.

 

So ultimately we’ve gained a lot of ground. The likes of Tommy Robinson are what, they’re like a stepping stone. They do have their benefits, but they also lead an awful lot of people down the garden path. They promote zionism, they put Maoris on stage doing the haka. They’ll have immigrants and Indians and all sorts of people they bring over to these events. It’s all funded by [jews] and so forth. So Tommy, I’m not his biggest fan. But the fact that he can be seen as a mainstream political figure now shows how much ground we’ve gained. Because a year ago, his name was taboo. You couldn’t even mention it online, and so forth Now he’s the safe option because everyone else is to the right of him.

 

Hermes: How much of a difference do you see between the younger and older generation? Because I talk to young people, they kind of I understand what you’re like talking about and they don’t really agree with Tommy. But the older guys are like:

 

“Yeah, deport the illegals, but the Indians who are non-violent they could stay.”

 

Do you think there is more hope for the younger generation and can you switch older person’s mind about some of these topics?

 

[04:35]

 

Steve Laws: So there are the odd older generation that you can sort of work on and bring them over to our talking points. But a lot of these people are sort of very much cemented in their ways. If you’re over 40, 50 year old, you’re kind of secure in your politics and your ideology, you know what you stand for. And these people, as you’ve said, do stand for what we call “civic nationalism”, where they don’t like the illegals, they don’t like the foreign criminals. But if you come over legally and you’re an Indian, you’ve got a little corner shop, they love you, they’ll stand there, they dance around with you, and think it’s amazing! But it’s not, it’s ridiculous!

 

So, back to the point is ultimately, yes, there are the youth that are very much more radical. I’m very hopeful with the youth. Because from my experience, of course this isn’t the hundred percent of every single youngster in this country, because that would just be a lie. But the vast majority understand demographics. They understand that they have no future, they’re not getting a pension, they’d be lucky to own a house, they’re lucky to have any future at all!

 

So when they realise that’s all they’ve got and that’s their future, it makes these youngsters radical. They don’t care whether you was born here, they don’t care whether you’re a nice immigrant. They want you gone because it’s their future that’s at stake.

 

Hermes: What would you say to someone who says:

 

“They don’t see race.”

 

Steve Laws: They’re [blleped out] because race sees them! [chuckling]

 

Hermes: Well, I guess how could you convince someone? Because obviously the brainwashing is strong. It is real. Like all throughout the school system, you know:

 

“Oh, we’re just different colours. Everything about us is the same.”

 

How can you convince someone of that or at least lead them, give them a carrot to chase.

 

Steve Laws: See, from my experience, the most people that have that viewpoint are people that lived in sheltered lifestyle. So they’re not surrounded by the immigrants. They don’t live amongst the multiracialism, they don’t live amongst the violence, the thieving, the grooming gangs. They don’t live amongst any of that they don’t see it in their day to day lives. So to them it doesn’t exist. The only way these people will ever truly understand it is by living amongst them.

 

The rest of us have seen it, we’ve all seen it growing up. We all know what it looks like. But these people, they haven’t seen it. So there’s the argument that you can show them, even when you show them, they bury their head in the sand and they say:

 

“Oh, it’s just a one off example. It’s not all like that.”

 

So I kind of take the attitude that if you can’t see it today, you’re a write off. Most people today understand it to an extent. They may not be quite where I’m at, but a lot of people understand that immigration is a problem. The numbers that are coming over is huge! The people that are coming over hate us. Most normal people can see that.

 

So if they can’t see that at this point, I wouldn’t waste your time trying to work with them. I’d only work with the people that are on their journey. Because let’s be clear, there’s more of those than there are the others.

 

Hermes: What steps do we have to take to get ourselves out of this situation? Because I mean the Muslims, Indians, they’re breeding like rabbits, right? They have like eight kids each. And then if you look at the European birth rates, it’s like 1.5 per woman. So is it even possible to reverse that or is it too late?

 

Steve Laws: No, no, it’s never too late! It’s very much possible. We’ve just got to be done in stages.

 

So at the moment, the general public, in terms of what’s safe and okay to support, they support the deportation of all illegal immigrants regardless of when they come over, they support, they deport all of the foreign criminals. That’s what I would call stage one of re-migration.

 

So once all of that’s been carried out, that gives us a little bit of breathing room. It doesn’t make a huge difference in terms of demographic change because the legal immigrants are the problem. But it does create a sort of environment where people are okay with deportations. They go:

 

“Oh, it’s not too bad, this person’s gone home now. We don’t, we didn’t really notice any difference.”

 

Then they’ll start looking at legal immigration and go:

 

“There’s still the problem there. We’re going to have to get rid of these people.”

 

And it’s a case of doing it stage by stage. If you start going round and say, although I’m quite guilty of this because I tried to drag the window, but if you’re trying to sell it to someone who doesn’t understand immigration, that they’ve all got to go from day one, they’re not going to listen to you.

 

But if you break it down into barriers and you say:

 

“This person’s got to go, because look, there’s foreign criminals here, these people that are not even working, why are they in our country? They’re just taking all our resources.”

 

And you start going down these avenues, people understand what you’re talking about and they start supporting it. And it doesn’t sound so radical. But it’s just a case of getting that first stage over the line which is deporting all the illegal immigrants.

 

Even Left-wing Labour government we’ve got now are starting to deport illegal immigrants. So that ball’s rolling. Once that hurdle’s been jumped over, then it’s anyone’s business. I would never say it’s too late, nowhere near. We’re still 74 % of the population, we’ve got a long time yet.

 

[09:05]

 

Hermes: How did we get to this point? How did whatever the powers that be convince the general person that they should be guilty of being White? You know, you were colonisers, you owned slaves. How did we get to this point? And kind of, I guess what are the first steps someone can take to kind of get out of that mindset?

 

Steve Laws: So you could discuss this all day long, really, couldn’t you, on how it started and who’s behind it and so forth, but ultimately it’s propaganda. That’s the main priority towards this.

 

And then that dribbles through to the schools, into the unions, into the workplaces, into every sort of environment. And then they creates a culture because that narrative so set in stone, creates a culture that anyone steps outside of that is seen as a radical and seen as a racist and extremist. And it sort of group thinks that person to not speak like that because everyone will turn on them and go:

 

“You can’t say that, you can’t say that. How dare you say that!”

 

And then everyone else listens to that and thinks:

 

“I better not say that. I don’t want to be the outsider in the group.”

 

And it’s that sort of mentality that snowballed throughout an entire nation until we’ve reached a point, we’ve reached now where entire generations are turning back and saying:

 

“No, we reject all of this, whether there’s truth to any of it or not, it’s irrelevant!”

 

Everyone just rejects it outright and wants everything gone, reversed back to what it should have been like, where it should be just our people in our country, people putting our people first. And that’s kind of what’s going to happen.

 

But in terms of how you reverse it and how you change everyone’s mindset. If I had the answer mate, it would already be fixed! [chuckling]

 

Hermes: Yeah. What would you do with the people who have like mixed kids or like they’re partially British? What’s the threshold like, where do the people who are mixed with everything go?

 

Steve Laws: So this one gets me in trouble. So I have to be careful how I answer this. Ultimately, I don’t care whether you’re mixed race or not, because I don’t see you as fully English, whether that’s controversial or not, I don’t care! If you’ve got a Jamaican father or an African father, or a Chinese father, you’re Chinese. You may have an English mother, but you are not English. You’re something else.

 

If you have a German Shepherd and a Labrador, you breed the two together, you do no longer have a German Shepherd, or a Labrador. You have something different entirely. And my problem is with this, whilst, yes, it’s a small minority of the country at the moment, if this demographic climbs, increases and starts becoming 5, 10% of the population, there’s serious questions that need to be asked. So ultimately, yes, we have to nip this in the bud.

 

Personally, I would deport them if I had the power, but I wouldn’t go out the streets and campaign to get rid of everyone because it’s a non-start from day one. I always say, if we can get to a 95% White Britain, I’d be happy with that. I wouldn’t be dancing over the moon, but I wouldn’t have to go out on the streets and campaign against this.

 

Hermes: What are the biggest differences racially in between us? Is it skin colour?

 

Steve Laws: No, no! Skin colour is just a minute fraction. It’s behaviour, it’s IQ, it’s everything down to diet, down to bone structure. There’s a lot more of it. Of course, skin colour is different as well. And that’s the obvious factor.

 

And that’s why everyone goes:

 

“Oh my God, he’s black, he’s White. You hate him because he’s black!”

 

Technically, yes, but [chuckling] not because of the colour of their skin. It’s because of their behaviour and the way they act. And they shouldn’t be in our country. I wouldn’t care. Right. If you was an African and you was in Africa, you do you mate, I don’t care! That’s where you should be.

 

But when you’re in the UK and you’re sitting here and you’re doing all your tribal dances and you’re eating all your jafali rice and stuff, and then you’re telling us that we should forgive, be apologizing to you because of our past, and it’s like:

 

“No, we’re very proud of our past. We’d do it again!”

 

It’s like, why are you here? Do you understand what I’m saying? You can go down the IQ arguments and you can go down every other argument, but the reality is every race has their own continent for a reason. It should stay like that.

 

Hermes: What do you say to people who say this is like a natural process of evolution and eventually everyone’s just going to have to, I guess, merge together?

 

Steve Laws: It’s not natural because it’s forced. This isn’t something that’s happening naturally. It’s not like people are just randomly arriving in the UK because they went for a stroll. These people are being encouraged and brought to the UK on the promise of incentives and housing and so forth. This isn’t something that’s happening naturally. If it’s something that’s happening naturally, we could put barriers in place to stop it!

 

Hermes: Okay, what are some things you are working personally in the future? Tell us about it.

 

Steve Laws: So right now I’m working on a group called Remigration Now. It’s basically an activist pressure group campaigning on total re-migration. So we take the hard line of everyone’s got to go. And then people can sort of backstep it a little bit and they can sort of make a safe space for everyone to move the window along a little bit. There’s enough political parties in the movement at the moment. There’s so many, they all say the same thing. Not one of them is willing to deport everyone. Not one of them is willing to support total re-migration. Even the based nationalist parties are not even at that stage.

 

So I don’t see as there’s any time being worth putting into a political party at the moment, strictly because Reform have got the next election covered at 29, after then is the time you want to start thinking about a nationalist party.

 

But for the next three years, nationalists should be focusing on drumming re-migration into the mainstream.

 

Hermes: And what can the average British person do to help out? Like they understand what we’re talking about. They agree with us or with you, not us. What would you say to them?

 

Steve Laws: So ultimately, the main thing is talking to people in real life. So if you can win over one person in a conversation, say you’re at work and you’re talking amongst your workmates, win that person over to the conversation. Get involved in protests, get involved in activism. If there’s a politician that’s calling for deportations in your area, support that politician. You might not agree with everything they’re saying, and elsewhere, they may say a lot of nonsense, but if they’re calling for deportations, let’s put that person in a position where they can actually act on that.

 

So it’s just little, small sort of acts of activism that will encourage more people to get active.

 

Hermes: And if anyone wants to find your work, where can they find you?

 

Steve Laws: Just Twitter. Steve Laws. I don’t even know what my username is. Yeah, Steve Laws. You’ll find me. Yeah. Cheers, buddy.

 

Hermes: Thanks for the conversation. Steve Laws, everybody.

 

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@ZoomerHistorian
1 day ago
Patriot
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@wavell14
1 day ago
o/
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@DanielMoralesSánchez-v7q
1 day ago
@wavell14 Buy in Predappio tricolore, comrade
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@6XGuitarXheroX6
1 day ago
you’re not a historian
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@billbill6576
1 day ago
@6XGuitarXheroX6 and you’re not a guitar hero
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@6XGuitarXheroX6
1 day ago
@billbill6576 your mum thinks I am

@javieracero8408
1 day ago
The Great Zoomer Historian is here !
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@Retetop
1 day ago

@6XGuitarXheroX6 He is.
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@KyleTheDalek
1 day ago
So your ok with elites, billionaires and such all having banquet, funding wars, and more but immigration is the issue?
What about what Christians done to the world, the colonists, why defend that?
Why don’t you respond to your criticism?

@jsg9575
1 day ago
Arent you French?

@laurafulton7023
1 day ago

@ZoomerHistorian Your channel is AWESOME!!!
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@CIements
1 day ago
@KyleTheDalek your “criticism” is whataboutism, you haven’t made an actual argument again immigration.
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@Heimbach1966
17 hours ago
Kenny smith is a bad man. We warned you
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@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt
15 hours ago
Ok Nazi

@Heimbach1966
14 hours ago
​ @AbdulSoomro-kj5lt
Cry Abdul. You know whats coming
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@markbecker5951
12 hours ago
It’s called national socialist Abdull.
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@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt
12 hours ago
@markbecker5951 so what?

@inthebeninging-m6h
11 hours ago
You think reimmigration or balkanisation is more likely outcome?

@Wjfiswjei183
6 hours ago
@6XGuitarXheroX6 You are?

@Wjfiswjei183
6 hours ago
@KyleTheDalek Immigration is what allows the elites to have as much power as they do, look at why billionaires prefer foreigners to their own people. We don’t deny the billionaires involvement, we merely wish to take their tools away and laugh at them crying in a corner. Colonists were good

@777SJ
1 day ago
Steve Laws is a true patriot.
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@randomhuman2595
1 day ago
He is terminally online
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@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt
15 hours ago
No

@fokit2240
12 hours ago (edited)
​​ @randomhuman2595 true, but at least with a mission reaching millions of people. I mean, me and you are online pretty often online also or you wouldn’t be here. Without any influence at all. Lol.

@Wjfiswjei183
6 hours ago
@randomhuman2595 you are

@loubloom-r8o
1 day ago
I’m french, and i don’t feel in my country anymore.
We need total remigration.
Support from France, great video!
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@hyperborean8240
1 day ago (edited)
@VagianTuerous meaningless word
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@thedegen40
1 day ago
I’m from france too bro !! En effet la remigration est la solution.
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@loubloom-r8o
1 day ago
@VagianTuerous Call me whatever you want, but one thing is sure. I do love my country, and i want it back!
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@Hooter360
1 day ago
The Austrian painter tried to warn France
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@yyyashaa
1 day ago
@VagianTuerous cry you don’t even understand what the word means
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@sickandtired1000
1 day ago (edited)
@VagianTuerous Why, thank you! I am!!
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@Nick-fi1mc
1 day ago
​ @VagianTuerous loser
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@WahrheitTreue
1 day ago
@VagianTuerous Have you noticed how utterly useless that word has become?
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@KyleTheDalek
1 day ago
So your ok with elites, billionaires and such all having banquet, funding wars, and more but immigration is the issue?
What about what Christians done to the world, the colonists, why defend that?
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@Baz_09
1 day ago
​ @loubloom-r8o What city are you in?

@WahrheitTreue
1 day ago
@KyleTheDalek Tell me, how is it leading a life void of any intelligence?
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1 day ago
France is lost, it belongs to north Africans
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@ColinDoweinRiddle
1 day ago
France for the French, England for the English, Germany for the Germans, America for the Americans!

@markbecker5951
12 hours ago
Unreal what’s happening in France. I once passed through Paris. I had to wait for a few hours at a bus station for my connection. I was literally (yes literally) the only White person there.

@loubloom-r8o
3 hours ago
@markbecker5951 I know brother, i know. And yet they still say the great replacement is a theory lol.

@AliceEngland-n8w
1 day ago
As a National socialist party we would give every White couple a house and every child born would give them 25% off the cost of their house. Until 4 children then they own the house. Many excellent examples of policies that promote the native population.
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@British_Dragon
20 hours ago
How can people support this movement?
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@Imperial_Boltgun
15 hours ago
If you laid out only the policies of National Socialism without actually any mention of the name or where it originated most people would support it.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
Don’t let England become the world’s second post national state.
Post National Canada is unbearable
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5 replies

@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In Post National Canada there are
25 million Canadians
8 million houses
7 million apartments and
22 million foreigners
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@Hooter360
1 day ago
Why do you Canadian keep voting for l liberal parties?
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@MoMoIsInHell
1 day ago
Post national Canada? What are you talking about?

@Astrale_Duskus
1 day ago
Seems to be there now
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@laurafulton7023
1 day ago

@Hooter360 Voting?
Do you believe in Santa too?
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
I’m 47 and I agree
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1 reply

@termikes174
2 days ago
I’m 48 and have these views
as well
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@slowboywhiteboardv4
2 days ago
The juice money only flows one way, and voting won’t fix it.
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@NORMIESAXON
2 days ago
Steve Laws is a great guy.
Truly dedicated to his people and doesn’t beat around the Bush or water down reality to accommodate those of weak of spirit.
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@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
That’s what I like about him. Since he is Briitiss–shh he alos must have an unncc((iircuummcciissedd sau s–sage.

@wavell14
1 day ago
@HowieHoward-ti3dx jew
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@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
@wavell14 Nope I am not are you? I cannot stand those people.

@joeycampbell-h9i
1 day ago (edited)
Anyone who disagrees should have an Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi family move in next door to them. I’ll give it 2 months max. Roma Gypsy probably only takes half an hour.
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@lindahunter1969
22 hours ago
Steve Laws is a coast guard hero
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@LICENFIREFEAR
2 days ago
Deport deport
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4 replies

@KyleTheDalek
1 day ago
So your ok with elites, billionaires and such all having banquet, funding wars, and more but immigration is the issue?
What about what Christians done to the world, the colonists, why defend that?

@MrGanz87
1 day ago
@KyleTheDalek 200 years ago?
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@acenab92
1 day ago
​ @KyleTheDalek don’t waste ur time majority of these are literal bots nobody supports this bs
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@RedX165
16 hours ago
@KyleTheDalek Who said that isn’t a problem?
Right now, we need to focus on us first before we’re a minority in our own countries.

@markjeffery7319
17 hours ago
I’m 64 and I fully support Steve and remigration, it was my generation who formed the National Front and the BNP, we marched with them, we’ve had to compete with immigrants for housing, health services, schools etc, I think it’s more of a class thing than an age thing, working class “boomers” are more right wing than much of the younger generation.
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@Hustlin87
1 day ago
Support from Australia
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
Remember not long ago back when Canadian cities were occupied by Canadians?
I miss those days
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2 replies

@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In Post National Canada there are
25 million Canadians
8 million houses
7 million apartments and
22 million foreigners
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@PapaShubz
1 day ago
I hate living in Canada
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@ShapesBBQ
1 day ago
Steve Laws is Fantastic
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@gh__
2 days ago
W interview. We need total remigration
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2 replies

@thoriumwulf3170
2 days ago
The Wbrits need to slowly enlist in the military and after a few decades attempt a military coup. I dont think the politicians will ever do anything meaningful
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@Andre-vr1ul
2 days ago
​ @thoriumwulf3170 the gov knows that already. They unfortunately aren’t stupid. They have a system in place for that.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
I wish Canada was still for Canadians.
I wish Canadians were allowed to defend OUR country from this relentless invasion/occupation
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7 replies

@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In Post National Canada there are
25 million Canadians
8 million houses
7 million apartments and
22 million foreigners
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@termikes174
2 days ago
Damn.
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@LegendofLovecraft
2 days ago
Second Sons and the Dominion Society
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@PasstheA1
1 day ago
This is a longshot but I truly believe that Americans and my Canadian brothers will need to work together hand in hand in the future to solve the very fucking real issues that are festering in both of our countries, the root of the issues are the same and all of us know which factions are responsible. the solutions though will im afraid require us to put whatever differences (if theres even really any between your average American patriot and a Canadian one) and work together. first it will look like support networks and basically using each other to replace the lines of support that our government used to provide.
hopefully Canada has its own version of Patriot Front that you all can join into and build community and skills, eventually both organizations and other ones like it such as the one forming in Australia will all need to lean on each other for support in ways more than just showing up in person. the landscape of the internet is a very real battlefield and we need to lead by example. show White people in all corners of the world theres a place to turn to that will have your back, somewhere that if you put in hard work you know you are helping those who look like you.
sorry for the rant but we need to start working for solutions rather than echoing our discontent with the status quo. the time for action is past.
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@Astrale_Duskus
1 day ago
Went to Vancouver a few years ago – Asian and Indian galore, not sure what happened to the Canadians
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@laurafulton7023
1 day ago

@PasstheA1 Sadly, there’s no decent groups in Post National Canada.
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@laurafulton7023
21 hours ago

@Astrale_Duskus India and Iran are in Asia
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
The first step needs to be taking care of those who orchestrated and enabled this across the entire Anglosphere
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@gillettrandy
2 days ago
Ding! We have a winner!
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago

@gillettrandy
First the traitors.
Then the invaders
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@S-North
1 day ago
It’s not helpful to be thinking of your opponents rear echelon, when your opponents rank and file are all up in your face.
Address the problem directly in front, while simoultaniously attempting to out manoeuvre and catch that rear echelon.
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@MoMoIsInHell
1 day ago
It’s not just the anglosphere. It’s everywhere! From Canada to Lithuania and Japan
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@LiftOffLife
1 day ago
Its the jeux
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@Skanderbeg-AL
1 day ago
Across all White countries not only the Anglosphere…
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@ZYNQO0
13 hours ago

@laurafulton7023 exactly brother you got it 100% right

@chadlove3443
14 hours ago
Hmm I wonder who was behind the antiwhitism
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@xander1947
2 days ago
I’m 42 and my view is remigration 100%!
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1 reply

@diligencehumility6971
1 day ago
37 here, I wanted it all my life
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@robertsmith7637
2 days ago
USA is being over run as well.
Just wanna throw that out there.
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@WesteuindidKaalai
1 day ago
Yes, but the USA was never fully “white.” Instead, “white” people in the USA should put their main focus on the West coast states, California, Oregon, Washington, and Alaska as well as some northern western states like Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. Also Massachusetts is important to focus on. These are places with climates similar to Europe. Outside of them, “white” people should only focus on small county-sized regions in the metro areas of major diverse cities like Miami, New York, and Las Vegas. European climates in European latitudes can sustain a European descent population. Otherwise, with time the people will most likely lose their European features.
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@naikjoy
1 day ago
I agree with him entirely
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@sonnyb7612
2 days ago
Steve Laws is one of the few people in England that seems like an actual Englishman with balls that names the jew and stands for actual English people and the nation.
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@MrLukedanger
20 hours ago
There is a lot of us, but the laws and Jewish money is a compete shut down. Mark collett is a good man also
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@darrenhems2291
19 hours ago
Whats your opinion on SimonT?
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@Getafix33
1 day ago
we need people like steve laws who have a zero tolerance attitude to this. Like he said it creates a space where people who think it’s a bit too far to fall back into. great interview mate.
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@andrea31425
1 day ago
Great mindset. New generations are way better than boomers
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@user-vj5xg8yc5f
2 days ago (edited)
Steve is the single greatest patriot we have in the entirety of Britain, been following him for a few years now and his dedication and will to never budge for subversives and traitors is impressive. If you aren’t already go ahead and follow & support him and his work. Great man.
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@BoratFC
2 days ago
He’s not though. How you could put him over the likes of Mark Collett or Simon Tomlin is beyond a joke.

@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
@BoratFC Never heard of Simon Tomlin, but Mark is great. First time hearing Steve talk and about him and I like what he says.
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@wastedaga1n
2 days ago
BREAKING silence! RAWR!
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@andrewharry5472
2 days ago
Great job Hermes! Thanks for keeping at it. A man on a mission. Keep going until we manifest our intent. We are with you brother. Odin be with you and may Thought and Memory guide you!
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@SithStudy
1 day ago
Breeding strategies are the key, Jews understand this, which is why they encourage others to crossbreed while they stick to their own kind. This is a way for them to incrementally eliminate groups they feel could threaten their power.
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2 replies

@yhwach-e8c
1 day ago
Delusion

@TheActualCorrectOpinion
21 hours ago
@yhwach-e8c obsessed, over 100
comments
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@dmalone12
2 days ago (edited)
You’d be hard pressed to go to any Walmart in America and not find people living out of their cars. This is not how one of the wealthiest countries in the world should be treating their citizens.
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1 reply

@MarkJones-ji8fd
1 day ago
$35 trillion national debt is not wealth
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@raysissum
2 days ago
Great interview.
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@mattvdh
2 days ago
Great stuff brothers, keep up the good fight!
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@Bryan-h3m
2 days ago
Why don’t fisherman just sink the boats?
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4 replies

@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
The English loves playing darts.
Inflatable boats are….
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@Purp00000
2 days ago
What fishermen? That trade is dying
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@johncompton2775
1 day ago
Because everyone in the UK is a coward…
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@acenab92
1 day ago
Because UK people are soft why do you think all they do is run to social media
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@Bianca_M_2.0
1 day ago
Legal illegal it’s all the same. It’s all leading to the same destruction.
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1 day ago
I’m a tall tough Australian over 120kg cobb and I’ll stick up for my Pommy cousins 100% mate.
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@cequiteplait9097
1 day ago
Sooner or later, you might get discouraged, lose hope.
But in those moments, never forget: It’s never too late.
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@saltygammon1
1 day ago
Remigration now
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@HaydenBrewer-v4j
1 day ago
He’s awesome- unafraid in his positions
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
Why are Canadians now suddenly vastly outnumbered in overcrowded Canadian cities?
Shouldn’t Canadian homes be owned and occupied by Canadians?
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1 reply

@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In Post National Canada there are
25 million Canadians
8 million houses
7 million apartments and
22 million foreigners
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@dutchvoornik6401
2 days ago
Do you have your “Duke Nukem” costume ready for Halloween, Hermes?
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@ahmnypotent
2 days ago

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@Astrale_Duskus
1 day ago (edited)
Hell Yeah! This would be an amazing Halloween video hahaha
“It’s time to kick ass and chew bubble gum… and I’m all outta gum!!!” (originally quoted from the movie They Live. If you haven’t seen it, mandatory watch very soon – so damn relevant for today’s mass indoctrination).
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@heroinetm
1 day ago
Truth, God willl protect this brother.
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@MOT2234
1 day ago (edited)
A Steve Laws Tommy Robinstein debate would show Tommy’s civic nationalist bile up for what it is, shame Tommy doesn’t want it.
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@Soldier-yu2ml
1 hour ago
This is a great conversation. Patriots!!!

@ReggieBlinker-k9e
1 day ago
Probably 9-10 men I respect in the Right Wing sphere. Steve is one. Drastic problems require drastic solutions.
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@organismseven3700
1 day ago
Steve Laws views
should be law!
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@rakandy3878
2 days ago
Based dep0rtation is the moderated option, and a temporary one for that matter. They won’t like the alternative if they insist.
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@Skanderbeg-AL
1 day ago
Good stuff Hermes, keep it up!
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@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
You mean his DDIIcckk up? I wonder if it has a 44ooffrreuurreskkiinnn or not.

@AliceEngland-n8w
1 day ago
Steve Laws is a national hero for us English people!
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@Joshua-fg9qo
1 day ago
As a white South African. With UK ancestry. I get worried that when I am finally able to immigrate to my ancestral homeland.
“All the immigrants being deported” does that include us? Trying to escape the barbarian hordes?
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@mkxreptile5280
1 day ago
With the current government yes, cause they hate ethinc europeans. If the modern reactionaries come into power you will certainly be welcomed.
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@S-North
1 day ago
You’re a European who would be moving back to Europe.
There is no problem with that.
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@billbill6576
1 day ago
Come to the USA, the government will welcome you

@davestevenson9080
17 hours ago
You are literally white and of our ancestry. blood is what matters, welcome home brother
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@rw9854
14 hours ago
Good work both

@paspallum
2 days ago
New Zealand is currently begging for immigration and self destruction. So this guy is sick of England being the toilet of the world? Whats his advice for NZ?
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
You shouldn’t have allowed your only oil refinery to sold, disassembled and shipped off to China during Covid Lockdowns.
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@WesteuindidKaalai
1 day ago
My advice is for the NZ to split into two countries at least, with the South Island being populated by Western European descent people. The Maoris should lose their indigenous status on the South Island because there were very few of them there to begin with, and because the distance from the equator and climate is like Western Europe and not like Taiwan. Maoris have ancestry from Taiwan, and they only reached New Zealand around 500 years before Europeans began settling. The Maoris have not been in New Zealand long enough to begin adapting to the new conditions in any significant way. But the North Island has land more similar to Taiwan than the South island. If the Maoris must remain in New Zealand, it would be better that they be on the North Island and not the South island. The South island should also send non-West European immigrants away. There are already so many massive diverse cities with similar climates in Europe and the Americas. New Zealand’s South island does not need to have any diverse cities of that sort, but if it does, it should limit it to one city. If you choose Christchurch to be the diverse city, then that means Dunedin, Invercargill, Graymouth, Nelson etc. should be free of the non-West European descent people. Also, South Island New Zealand should encourage Italian immigration because it has a very Italian climate at least in the north. Nelson probably should be renamed to Nouveau Cannes or something like that because it is similar to Cannes in southern France. Flip New Zealand over so that South is north and compared it with the map of France and you may see what I mean.
The question that remains is tourists. Should they be allowed to go everywhere randomly and potentially hide and over stay their visas? Due to how often tourism is abused and used for doing things like having children in a country to legitimize those children as natural born citizens, I think that the tourists should only be allowed to visit some places during the day, and at night they need to be in the section of the given town where tourists are allowed. If they want to go camping, they can do it in whichever metro area of the city that has been designated as the world city where all may visit. If they want their culture in New Zealand they can make an enclave in the designated metro area. If they want to compete for colonizing land with other groups, they can do it on designated lands in between designated enclaves, all of which would be in the metro areas of the designated world city. But these are just ideas. Not necessarily what must happen.
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@WesteuindidKaalai
1 day ago

@laurafulton7023 Exactly. New Zealanders remind me of naive penguins like the Great Auks of Western Europe that went extinct due to over-hunting. If New Zealand had sense, it would not allow China in most of New Zealand, and it would develop nuclear weapons. But Nuclear power stations should still be avoided because they are easy targets for enemies with missiles intending to permanently make a country unliveable.
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@johanjotun1647
2 days ago
Go Laws’ law.
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@LordOfSweden
2 days ago
Great to see there is at least one honorful englishman left
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@markspeight5923
1 day ago
There’s millions waiting it’s coming
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@LordOfSweden
1 day ago
@markspeight5923 I hope so. Keep fightning brothers!
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@charlesegan9193
1 day ago
There are more of us than ever before. Nationalism is growing faster than our replacement. A year ago Nigel Farage laughed at the idea of mass deportations now Reform and the tories are competing by promising more and more deportations.

@diligencehumility6971
1 day ago
I agree 110%
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@SunRise-ul7ko
1 day ago
Australia also has a problem.
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@Dylan-xh9qh
1 day ago
We’ve got to the point where the most “extremist” position sounds like the most sensible.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In my 90s Canadian high school of 800 students there were only 2 foreigners
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3 replies

@ahmnypotent
2 days ago
sounds like heaven
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@Zoro23-u7f7g
1 day ago
Free Palestine

@UnemployedG
1 day ago
@Zoro23-u7f7g Its Free to Invade, Go take it
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
In Post National Canada there are
25 million Canadians
8 million houses
7 million apartments and
22 million foreigners
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@KevCassidy-es2qp
1 day ago
We need more brave people like steve Laws to save our people and country.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
There’s barely a Canadian left in overcrowded Vancouver/Toronto/Montreal
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1 reply

@Regnum-hispane
2 days ago
WP for Canada
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@CHRISTISKINGOFORDE
1 day ago
Steve Laws for PM!
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@raffles7556
1 day ago
Well said…support from Ireland
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@WhiteEuropa-e8y1w
1 day ago (edited)
9:32 He said “jewish” in case u r wondering
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1 reply

@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago

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@JanuszUfamTobie
12 hours ago
True patriots

@John-8-43-44
1 day ago
Tommy R always was the safe option, that’s why he was pushed to the masses.
The pied piper, and the shekels pick the tune.
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@edmundblackaddercoc8522
1 day ago
‘they’ are bringing it to our shores.
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@lylecrawford2794
1 day ago
Are you referring to the people who considered “something” as a broom with which Europe will be swept clean?
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@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago

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@michelgrottoli3432
1 day ago
your a good man hermes nice to see you on plaid army much respect sir
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@trollsarebad1541
1 day ago (edited)
We aren’t 74% percent of the population that’s the thing. It’s always far worse than they admit.
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@ragingbullaofessex
18 hours ago
The Austrian painter once said if we lose this war we did not want Europe will be lost within a hundred years. God bless Mr Laws.
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@sickandtired1000
1 day ago
Great interview mate!
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@diligencehumility6971
1 day ago
Same problem in Denmark
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@daftwod
1 day ago
Ive won over at least 5 people through conversation.
Remigration now!
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@BADDOD13
1 day ago
great interview m8s
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@TheCraigy83
1 day ago
3:45 – 4:13 that really needed saying so much !
This guy knows what’s what.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago

@Hermes
Please come to Vancouver British Columbia next to document the world’s first Post National State and zombie apocalypse on the downtown east side
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@ChadRexlogan
1 day ago
Not a single thing was said that I disagree with.
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@raakmore4443
1 day ago (edited)
Don’t forget the Blacks too. Make Amafrica America again
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
Babies are NOT
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@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
What?

@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago
@HowieHoward-ti3dx “Anchor babies’ i.e ethnic children born in Canada.

@HowieHoward-ti3dx
11 hours ago
@tumslucks9781 Oh ok. I think she means they are not canadians.

@Natives927
1 day ago
Awesome interview. A man with a plan and all about action. Love to see it

@ALDA99999
2 days ago
PATRIOT
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@CHRISTISKINGOFORDE
1 day ago
Great content
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@areyoutheregoditsmedave
1 day ago
Hermes is still better at asking questions than Elijah Schaffer
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@jeremyschwartz3683
1 day ago
How will the youth be anti-immigration when most of them are immigrants.
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@dieseinR
1 day ago
Impressive. Very based.
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@idontknow9410
1 day ago
Badass
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@JamesBrown-or8lx
15 hours ago
they have to go back!

@thatoneguychad420
1 day ago
Love it

@British_Dragon
20 hours ago
Tommy Robinstein
Steve Laws
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@jodygoar7071
1 day ago
Good stuff!

@NANA-u8w8w
1 day ago
Rule Britannia
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@gillettrandy
2 days ago
Start making long bows.
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@laurafulton7023
2 days ago
Don’t forget the trebuchets and guillotines
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@athulfgeirsson
10 hours ago
Hail Laws, simple as.

@dadam2609
1 day ago
He’s so handsome
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@TheActualCorrectOpinion
21 hours ago
Look up Cornileau Zelea Codreanu. A very handsome Saint.

@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago
@TheActualCorrectOpinion I just looked him up.
Handsome he ain’t!

@gullybull5568
18 hours ago
ISREALLY OWNS ENGLAND PUPPETS
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@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago

@Lamdam67
2 days ago (edited)
It would drive me crazy if we couldn’t even trash talk immigrants online, they put up with way too much in UK
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@Heimbach1966
17 hours ago
Believe me we can, just not on Facebook.
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@rbb5072
1 day ago
GOOD VIDEO BRO
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@ffehb
22 hours ago

@carlitox4721
16 hours ago
He doesn’t know the difference between British and English. British has always been a political identity used across the world

@LawrenceTimme
1 day ago
This was way more interesting than the street interviews
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@rosita3528
2 days ago
What’s your opinion on Americans or Canadians who call themselves English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh just because they had a British ancestor 400 years ago?
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@Andre-vr1ul
2 days ago
I’m a Canadian in every sense of the word. I have English, Scottish and French heritage but mostly English (not uncommon for many true Canadians). I consider myself Canadian but am ethnically western European.
I assume many English also have deep Germanic and French roots too.
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@raakmore4443
1 day ago
They want us to kill each other that’s why there doing this
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@cboytv6735
1 day ago
The fact none of these lot mention ‘them’ should make you wonder if they are just doing their part for them.
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@MattyMMW
1 day ago
​ @cboytv6735 they do mention them but don’t want their videos removed on YT
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@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96
1 day ago (edited)
What about someone half British and half non-British white?
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@DavidJohnAr
1 day ago (edited)
I was going to ask the same question. Pure 95%+ DNA is quite rare. Usually Europeans have a bit of something else European. Like what if you’re half English half German? Dutch? Russian? Swedish? I mean those are very white/northern but what about even an Italian? Is that where we draw the line? I mean where do those people even go? Maybe it should be a general coalition on European countries. E.g. Russians are politically subversive so they dont count unless they change, obviously other races arent even part of the continent so they dont count, but some Dutch or Danish DNA is fine? IDK!
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@Skanderbeg-AL
1 day ago
I was wondering the same thing…
I’m Albanian, if someone was half Albanian half other European i would be more than ok with him/her staying in Albania.
Personally i think there should be room for some intra European migration.
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@S-North
1 day ago
Europe is European.
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@johncompton2775
1 day ago
At 9:00 he says they are ‘74% of the population’ thus excluding
Europeans; these people also want EU citizens deported; they are not on your side….

@Rahul-ru7jv
1 day ago
hes a troll

@Dannygspoorlyhand-p4k
1 day ago
Born in Bradford to an English mother and a half Maltese father. My grandmother was a full blood Geordie who married a Maltese man. I consider myself a EURO supremacist and an English European. I want England cleansed of invaders and I’m full blown natsoc at this point. Where would I stand with Steve? Due to the Mediterranean in my blood, I often side more with European supremacy as opposed to WS. I think more issues regarding where we Italian english, Maltese English, Greek english, Spanish English etc fall in the over all movement.
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@ExtremelyTastyBread
2 days ago
in 2018 I heard abou tommy robinson, and I legit thought he was this SUPER far right guy XD
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@Braytech_Official
1 day ago
Glowies be aware, bring back the fed scare.

@USDM_90
2 days ago
Underground interview

@gullybull5568
18 hours ago
CANADA : welfare joke.

@MataMoros-x2o
1 day ago
This started with windrush Jamaicans invitation to Britain. Jamaicans just stayed in Brixton and of course others trail behind black people.

@bcanuck
1 day ago
Large corporations are have purchased properties in all of our nations. The PM Carney worked for and still holds shares in the largest landlord in North America (Brookfield Asset Mgt.).
They will see everyone become renters. A new Serfdom. This mass migration will see their assets provide maximum returns. Your leaders are beholden to the same interests.

@bobnewby8229
1 day ago
based men make based societies

@ChiefJoseph-00
1 day ago
Where was this when colonization was occuring? It cries out in pain as it strikes you.
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1 day ago
Can tell you two blokes can punch on when push comes to shove.
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@cine9nine
5 hours ago
What about a person born in England, with English ancestry through one parent, and African ancestry through another parent?
Can they identify as English?
Some indigenous peoples, eg. Native Americans, will accept ethnically mixed people who identify as Native American if they have Native American ancestry.

@Smooth-f5l3e
2 days ago
What about a white British Muslim convert? Or a British Athiest?
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@ohioisastate8574
2 days ago
Part of the problem
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@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
1 day ago
They can go
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@PcGamerify
1 day ago
wow

@ContrarianKaren
1 day ago
Mass migration is a symptom of the global economic system which Steve never talks about

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@LiftOffLife
1 day ago
You mean the jeaux
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@tumslucks9781
17 hours ago
@LiftOffLife

@dutchvoornik6401
2 days ago
In canine husbandry, the first cross of two purebreds yields intelligence.
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@orwellwasrightabouttheleft7549
1 day ago
Why is the j word bleeped out?!
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@dee74raz
18 hours ago
Forgets to ask deportations of ethnic Europeans living in North America, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand to Europe
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@ThatLastScouser
17 hours ago
They built those countries. You want to send all the infrastructure and technology back here too? Sounds good, let you all live back in the dark ages.
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@AnimaChristisalvame
17 hours ago
The European built those countries/ civilisations. They didn’t exist before. The land masses had stoneage tribes, living in tiny numbers on them.
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@Deepwokenhero_ezgromit3
21 hours ago
1:43 6-7???

@orwellwasrightabouttheleft7549
1 day ago
Did you film this in a canteen? Awful background noise. Apart from that, remigration now.
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@carlzoey
2 days ago
What happend to your video yesterday it was up for less then an hour?
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@xchainsaw_massacrex9367
2 days ago
WIthin the idea of remigration, would mix race people that are half English still be deported?
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@LegendofLovecraft
2 days ago
Yes
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@yhwach-e8c
2 days ago
@LegendofLovecraft I wouldn’t go if I was mixed

@yhwach-e8c
2 days ago
@LegendofLovecraft Nice name though

@LegendofLovecraft
2 days ago
​@yhwach-e8c its not voluntary i dont think
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@cboytv6735
1 day ago
@hyperborean8240 I’m sure you will have an easy time doing that pal
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@hyperborean8240
1 day ago
@cboytv6735 im not English its up to them not me

@patrickmullen2938
1 day ago
@LegendofLovecraft I think an English father with a forgien lady should be ok that kid will be English

@xchainsaw_massacrex9367
1 day ago
@yhwach-e8c Deportation isn’t voluntary, you don’t get to make that decision. LOL.
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@RadovanCvijetic
18 hours ago (edited)
Right immigration is not the problem, say Polish that assimilates, has similar culture etc, the biggest problem is very low birth rate among all European nations …for instance Italy is at 1.3 children per women, that’s an irreversible rate!

@joepaxton3154
18 hours ago
Why is the video of kai cunningham been taken down?

@gullybull5568
18 hours ago
ISREAL ISHAM out

@rubyred9415
1 day ago
Where can we see the last video that got taken down?

@Righteo
1 day ago
Who’s Steve Laws?

@KEGDOG
1 day ago (edited)
*migration crisis

@jermaineishmael7225
16 hours ago
These people need to get hobbies 34 and nothing better to do with their time………

@thevioletmasquerade
1 day ago
His political views
, no matter how hardline, are not the issue. It’s the sheer number of contradictions in his rhetoric that will forever anchor any potential meaningful change that he apparently seeks.
This is part of the problem these types of people have. They’re challenging issues that have been made deliberately complex and multi-faceted by design, using far too narrow of a lens.
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@Mark-ef2ly
13 hours ago
What contradictions ?

@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
Hermes if you have a 44fforreeskk!!iinn, how do you feel sitting next to a Brit!!iisshh guy who could possibly have a ffo444rreeskk!!iinn too.

@imperishablestars33
2 days ago
What about if you got an irish mum
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@Andre-vr1ul
2 days ago
English and Irish are ethnic kin. They are family.
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@ohioisastate8574
2 days ago
Lol what about it
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@imperishablestars33
2 days ago
@ohioisastate8574 just wondering if i’ll be going back. my mums parents came from ireland, my grandfather was one of the irish men who fought in wwii. i’ll have to be split in half, my dads parents were scottish tehehe
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@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
1 day ago
@imperishablestars33 silly comment
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@S-North
1 day ago
Not a problem.
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@MOT2234
1 day ago (edited)
Europeans generally aren’t an issue, we are all going through the same struggle, including our Irish brothers.
Albanians have to go though.
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@ThatLastScouser
17 hours ago
What about it?
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@TheAkuAku
1 day ago
Its over already. What are these pointless conversations?
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@cboytv6735
1 day ago
Steve laws is controlled opp anyway never even mentions the mortal enemy just quarrels with the sheep

@samking8947
1 day ago
@cboytv6735 he literally always does you just can’t openly say it on YouTube
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@cboytv6735
22 hours ago
@samking8947 he hardly does and he still is doing what they want him to. And it’s laughable hearing him talk all big on what needs to be done , the second he tried to implement a single thing he would be dealt with by anyone.

@HowieHoward-ti3dx
1 day ago
Hermes is so cute. I wonder if his sauca–sage is ciirr(9ccummCiisseed or not and what his faa(9aartt)s are Buurppsss sme!!ll like.

@2000guineas
1 day ago
Rodeny from Only Fools and Horse nephew?

@cboytv6735
1 day ago
12:05 this bloke talking about diet and bone structure , my god. Very disheartening that this is the ‘dissident voice’.
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@Contentiouslytruthful
14 hours ago
Bone structure makes sense. Diet doesn’t

@cboytv6735
14 hours ago
@Contentiouslytruthful not in his case it certainly doesn’t.

@yesthen2704
18 hours ago
Hermes ur great but this guy ur interviewing , as a British person, he needs a shower

@Rob_3s3
1 day ago
i can sort of get behind remigration but this guy is taking it too far, i dont want to literally live in an ethno state

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@JamesLeigh-f6d
16 hours ago
We literally lived in an ethno state for centuries
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@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
2 white supremacist talking … is so sad where are we going…

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@yyyashaa
1 day ago
If you live in the uk and you’re disagreeing with this man you’re insane
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@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
@yyyashaa I lived in the UK… thats why i know this is hate speech …

@htwa
1 day ago
@AzALk-x8e you are brown
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@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
@htwa ? brown? meaning? in fact Im orange…

@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
@htwa a bit HCL, scale…

@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
@htwa you? maybe more rbg?

@AzALk-x8e
1 day ago
@htwa Im sefardi… so …

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@robjams1
15 hours ago
He’s good, just a bit mental thinking mixed race kids can go ‘home’

@UnemployedG
1 day ago
Professional Racist
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@yyyashaa
1 day ago
That’s not racist
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@Uduwerage
1 day ago
Again, Hermes is promoting ethnonationalism and those who promote the vilest forms of intolerance and racism.

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@S-North
1 day ago
It’s a survival thing.
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@Uduwerage
1 day ago (edited)
⁠ @S-North , Survival of or for whom?

@MattyMMW
1 day ago
​ @Uduwerage The group that created western civilization
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@civildiscourse7626
1 day ago
This guy is a nut job

@PeeedaPan
2 days ago
Budget dolph lungren and this gollum lookin mofo
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@LordOfSweden
2 days ago
You thought you were funny huh?
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@JamesSmith-ds2hi
1 day ago
They haven’t got a brain cell between them

@LordOfSweden
1 day ago
@JamesSmith-ds2hi Cope
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@cygnus108
2 days ago (edited)
This guys a complete moron. “Every race has its continent”. (12:56) Then explain Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, America.

@leewilson2261
2 days ago
Wow, I can’t agree with this far right narrative. Tommy Robinson has the right way forward, not this Nazi.

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@kimbow1968
1 day ago
YOUR VERY NAIVE IF YOU THINK T R IS THE SOLUTION
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@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
1 day ago
@kimbow1968 see what he’s done
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@willryan5508
1 day ago
Too normie for facts huh? Race is real and people are not equal
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@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
1 day ago
@willryan5508
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@ThatLastScouser
17 hours ago
Tommy Robinson is a clown who dances for Israel.
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@dimakurguskin4141
2 days ago (edited)
do questionary about Ukraine or about jewish involvement in slavery
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@flashforcash1843
2 days ago (edited)
Frankenstein and master splinter
Starring hermes as frankenstein and well the other speaks for him self looks like a human sized rat even acts like one
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@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
1 day ago
But ur here and commenting
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@cboytv6735
1 day ago
Hermes doesn’t look like Frankenstein
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@uoutub3
1 day ago
Great interview !
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@rbb5072
1 day ago
GOOD VIDEO BRO
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@dutchvoornik6401
8 hours ago
Do you have your “Duke Nukem” costume ready for Halloween, Hermes?
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Joel Davis: We are live another episode of the show and to start us off. Superchat from Death Culture saying for the NSN war chest. And yeah, we’re getting straight into it. Big show for you this evening. Blair wasn’t around last week, so we’ve got a bit to catch up on. A lot to break down in international politics. Interesting, interesting stuff to cover.

 

There’s been a bit of a theme over recent weeks which is kind of going to continue into this episode.

 

But yeah, I want to reflect upon what’s happened in this Israel, Iran situation because on one level nothing happened, which was my prediction, but on a deeper level, something is going to happen, for many, many reasons, which we will get into in the broader situation. Interesting stuff as well in Australian politics. Mark Latham going to war against Chris Minns in New South Wales over these Hate Speech laws and the role of the jewish lobby and so on. Interesting to discuss that among other things.

 

But before we get into it. How you doing, Blair? You came for the show this evening?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, man! Got a lot I want to ask you. Get your take on a few things.

 

As you said, there’s been some international politics, which is not my favourite kind of politics, but I’d still like to get a comprehensive understanding. To get a bit of a Joel Davis take a series of Joel Davis takes on what’s been going on. But I’ve got an early start in the morning, that’s why., … Sorry.

 

Joel Davis: I was going to say you. It seems like you’ve had a bit to say about this as well.

 

Blair Cottrell: So, yeah, my takes are kind of, …

 

Joel Davis: Interesting to get your breakdown.

 

Blair Cottrell: I haven’t really had the opportunity to really read into it and develop a full understanding. I’m kind of just going with my gut. I’m surprised the way it turned out. Like Trump shouldn’t have been able to bomb another country and then two days later step in to supervise a peace deal with the country he just bombed. Like on paper that shouldn’t be possible, but he somehow pulled that off. He did that. I don’t know how Trump makes stuff like that work, but I don’t know. He’s an interesting individual. We’ve discussed that on previous shows.

 

But yeah, like I was saying, I’ve got a really early start in the morning, so I asked Joel if we could start a little bit earlier. That’s why we’re kicking off just after 8:00.

 

But yeah, lots to discuss. Should be a good stream. Where do we want to start now? Is Joel coming through blurry for anyone else or is that just me? I might have to have a look at my Internet connection here. We’re both coming through clear here. Or Joel’s blurry. What are you guys seeing at home?

 

Joel Davis: Not seeing much in the chat either way. Yeah, we got blurry. Yeah. Well, I think it’s a connection issue. One second. You can entertain the crowd.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s getting a little better.

 

Joel Davis: Entertain the crowd.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s pretty clear now. Warm up the warm up the device, I suppose. Man, it’s cold times down here in Australia. Middle of winter.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it has been cold. And on the subject of seasons, that was going to be one of the themes for the episode this evening for me, because one thing that I have learnt in politics, politics works by season. So, like, for example there’s been big riots and protests in the United States recently. I remember around this time last year, there were big riots in the UK, race riots. Because it’s the summertime in the Northern Hemisphere, those kinds of things tend to only happen in summer. Down here in Australia, it’s winter. During the winter time period, not much is happening politically, everyone kind of switches off, hunker down. And Australian politics generally, I mean, it’s not that eventful at the best of times, but it’s especially not eventful during winter.

 

And I think that’s true across the board. I remember last year, it did kind of feel like things were a little stagnant through the winter time. And then as soon as we got into the springtime, all of a sudden it was all action. There was just rallies all the time and controversies. And it felt like there was a lot of forward pressure into the summertime. You know, a lot happened on Australia Day and so on around then through the summertime, momentum built up and expressed itself.

 

Then there’s all these legal cases that are upon us and we move into the wintertime and kind of hunker back down. That seems to be how it works in politics.

 

So a lot of people are pressuring us:

 

“When is the political party going to be launched? When’s the political party going to be launched?”

 

Well, it actually wouldn’t make sense to launch it in the wintertime. Would make a hell of a lot more sense to launch it at the complete opposite time of the year when there’s a lot more energy and there’s a lot more vitality in the people and in politics.

 

So at the moment, we’re on our kind of winter kind of lull down here in Australia, but internationally things are kicking off. And yeah, I think the biggest story obviously is its the to and fro between Israel and Iran, which came to an abrupt halt. Obviously last weekend you had, remember looking at my phone, Sunday morning we had a Yuletide celebration and many of the boys, so we’re awake up, kind of like hungover from Yuletide festivities on the Saturday night, the winter solstice down here in Australia. We’re driving down to the servo and I pull my phone out and it’s like:

 

“Holy shit, Trump just bombed Iran!”

 

It was very quick. Like, it was like Trump announced it on Truth Social, his social media site, before anyone else touched it.

 

[06:13]

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you use that, Truth Social?

 

Joel Davis: It seems like only Trump uses it and maybe, I guess his biggest supporters.

 

But anyway, I had to go on his Truth Social and check, is this real? It was real. And he was, he kind of had this tone of like:

 

“All right, we’ve blown up the nuclear sites, this is done. If Iran stands down, we’ll just call it sweet, we’ll move on.”

 

And in the days since, you know, reports came out saying:

 

“Well, I don’t think they really effectively took out their nuclear program.”

 

Israel were talking a lot tougher. Even Trump himself was talking a lot tougher, talking about regime change. Iran were claiming they were going to have a big retaliation. Then Iran did a symbolic retaliation immediately. We’re getting a ceasefire, apparently. And Trump somehow even seemed to restrain Israel, which surprised a lot of analysts, where apparently there was a loose Iranian missile that was a bit late, just kind of missed the cut-off point for the ceasefire, allegedly, or whatever.

 

And so Israel sent all their jets. And then you see Trump coming out saying:

 

“Israel doesn’t know what the fuck it’s doing!”

 

To the world media, and making all these posts on his social media saying the Israeli planes can just wave hello and then they’re going to turn around and fly home. Don’t bomb anyone. We’re having a ceasefire. It was kind of interesting political theatre, but it managed to hold. And in the days since, it’s been kind of interesting. Trump has been very supportive of Israel, supportive of Benjamin Netanyahu, but at the same time ignores the intelligence reports that say that the nuclear sites weren’t properly destroyed. Says that’s all fake news. They’ve relaxed sanctions on Iran after the so-called ceasefire, but no negotiation seems to have taken place. There’s no deal. Iran has left the IAEA, which is the world leading kind of body or whatever for inspecting nuclear sites.

 

So what’s the solution here exactly? Like, it seems like the cans just being kicked down the road, but nothing’s actually been resolved.

 

Now, I personally don’t think it’s a problem if Iran gets nuclear weapons. In fact, I’m totally cool with them getting nuclear weapons. And I don’t think that it’s could be a problem that we deal with. But obviously from the perspective of Trump and the Zionists who control America, that’s a big problem. And from the perspective of Israel, it’s a big problem. So it’s kind of surprising to see that.

 

And a lot of people said:

 

“Well, how come that happened?”

 

And the reason why I was predicting that this kind of something like this would happen from the very beginning was not because I don’t think Zionists control America or I don’t think the jews have the levers of power. Quite the opposite. Obviously. The reason why I predicted this was because the United States has got more issues right now than just Iran and Israel.

 

Back in 2003, when the United States invaded Iraq, America was by far the world’s most powerful country. The richest, strongest. No one came close to the United States in 2003. And no one dared challenge the international order and their power and authority basically anywhere in the world. Like Russia and China totally like acquiesced to the invasion of Iraq and said:

 

“Okay, do it.”

 

So America was able to just break international law, do whatever it wanted, obviously at the behest of Israel at the time, and get away with it and just flush trillions of dollars down the toilet and deploy all its military, and nothing happened.

 

However, today it’s a very different global situation. You’ve got an active war in Ukraine, Russia’s committed there. And Trump came in to the presidency trying to come to some kind of peace deal there to neutralise relations with the Russians in order to be able to pivot to China, which is the real big deal. China is obviously potential superpower, a rising peer competitor of the United States. And there’s the issue of Taiwan, where if China moves on Taiwan, that could trigger World War Three, where the United States is obligated to defend Taiwan to hold together its position in the East Asian region.

 

Then you’ve got China versus America, two most powerful countries in the world. That’s World War Three. So what happens if America goes in and invades China, Iran right now? Well, they completely ruined their negotiating position with the Russians in Ukraine.

 

And they also are basically inviting the Chinese, like:

 

“Hey, why don’t you just invade Taiwan right now because we’re over committed and you’re never going to get a golden opportunity like this.”

 

So I think because of that broader situation, even though of course the jews who run America are no fans of Iran, there’s a limitation on what they can do. And I think that’s what we saw just happen.

 

And so the reason why nothing happened this time is because a much larger happening is on the horizon, I think it’s basically inevitable that a much larger war will occur over the next few years.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I was going to ask you. And you already answered the question I was going to ask you. Obviously this back and forth between Iran and Israel isn’t going to become a World War Three situation. It’s not a broad scale war. It’s kind of petty, a bit of a nothing burger. That’s what it turned out to be anyway. And you rightfully sort of predicted that, or not really predicted it, but you just called it for what it was before anybody else did, as far as I can tell.

 

So what is the World War III situation? Does that have to involve China and Taiwan? Is that your perspective?

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, now if things flare up again between Iran and Israel, which seems inevitable because there isn’t much of a conclusion here to what’s happened, that could invite the Chinese in, they get to make a move.

 

Blair Cottrell: What about the other way around? If China tries something with Taiwan and America’s tied up in that, then I suppose hostilities could flare up between Iran and Israel again because they would expect the Americans to be distracted by whatever’s happening.

 

Joel Davis: Well, that would maybe play in Iran’s favour, you would think, because they would think, oh well, Israel’s now undefended. But what Israel showed, I think, in this engagement was that it has a military dominance over Iran, like of the two sides, the Iranians took a lot more damage than Israel. And there’s a thousand miles between two countries. Very difficult for either country to conduct a proper war with one another, whether there’s actually fighting on the ground, which is why historically Iran has been kind of backing Hezbollah and things like that. Groups that are actually bordering with the United States. Sorry, with Israel!

 

But it’s kind of like a sideshow. You know, the deeper and more profound reality is America versus China. And there’s two very interesting historians that have co written a few books together. One of them is dead now and what is coined as the Strauss Howe generational theory. I’ve been reading a book called the Fourth Turning, which was co-authored by these two historians in the late 90s. They have a kind of generational theory of American history where they say:

 

“Well, in order to understand history, you have to kind of understand it through the prism of every 21 years or so.”

 

Generations emerge and kind of swap social roles, whether they be the children, the young adults, the midlife types or the elderly.

 

And as each generational shift happens, there’s a shift in mood and a paradigm shift basically in the overarching society. And they plot this onto Anglo-American history. And what they find is that they kind of come in fours. There’s kind of like a cycle of four generations, which makes up the average kind of lifespan of a healthy human being. And how basically every kind of lifespan every 85 years or so in American history, or even going back into British history prior to that, you get a crisis.

 

And so you had World War II about 85 years before that you had the Civil War about 85 years before that you had the American Revolutionary war about 85 years before that you had the Glorious Revolution in Britain where Stuart monarchy was deposed. And there’s a huge paradigm shift at the time and so on. And you keep kind of cycling back and finding these parallels. And so according to this theory, which is eerily accurate in a lot of its predictions and its analyses, basically now between the next few years is supposed to be the kind of crescendo of the crisis point where something like a World War II or Civil War type level happening is supposed to occur in American history.

 

And at the same time as you have this theory, there’s also many theorists of war history who describe how you have these 95 to 100 year cycles, roughly speaking, that occur between kind of wars that reset the global political order that have been occurring every 90, 95 years or so throughout European history.

 

And again, we’re kind of reaching that point where the next, …

 

Blair Cottrell: So we’re overdue.

 

Joel Davis: Well, we’re basically, if it happens soon, we’re right on time. We’re right on time. And it does feel like there’s this kind of air of inevitability where you know, you have something called Thucydides Trap. Thucydides was an ancient Greek historian. He wrote about Peloponnesian War. He wrote about the war between Athens and Sparta.

 

And basically you have this situation where this tendency in military history and political history where you’ll have a dominant power in a region or in this case in the world that’ll enjoy after a great victory in a major war, a period of dominance.

 

And then eventually they’ll have somewhat of a decline and a new challenger will arise, a new great power will arise, and the status quo that was kind of set up under the dominance of the original power will eventually be challenged by this emerging new power because they’ll become too powerful to basically accept the subordinate position. And when this occurs, it’s basically inevitable that these two powers will go to war. And it’s almost like all throughout human history, you see this happen again and again and again and again!

 

In the early 20th century, you saw basically the dominance of the British Empire, the rise of Germany. They challenge one another. America ends up inheriting the position of the British and finishing the job. But you see this time and time again. And that’s obviously what’s happening now with China, where in the last, you know, few decades, China has become so wealthy, has had so much growth, and they’re building incredible amounts of military hardware, their navy’s swelling, all their tech is developing very rapidly, like military tech. And from the Chinese perspective, Taiwan is part of China.

 

In fact, from, even from the American perspective, technically, Taiwan is part of China. Everyone agrees because Taiwan was actually controlled by China. After the Second World War concluded, where you had an alliance between the Nationalists and the Communists to fight the Japanese in China. The Nationalists and the Communists started fighting one another. The Communists won. The Nationalists basically were pushed back onto the island of Taiwan and they basically were stuck there ever since. And the Americans initially protected the Nationalists from the Chinese and had the ambition perhaps of like, reinvading China and putting the Nationalists back in power over the Communists, but that never happened.

 

And so basically it’s like this Chinese civil war that was never fully resolved. So from China’s perspective, like America deciding it would be like imagining if we had a war in Australia between the Left and the Right, and then the losing group had got exiled to Tasmania, we would still consider Tasmania part of Australia. Whoever won would want Tasmania back. And if then America.

 

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Blair Cottrell: How did China end up losing control?

 

Joel Davis: You’re not allowed to invade Tasmania. That’s against the rules. We would be like, cool. Like fuck you!

 

Blair Cottrell: But how did China lose Taiwan in the first place?

 

Joel Davis: Well, the Nationalists, Taiwan is controlled by Chinese people as well, but they’re just the Nationalist group that were pushed out by the Communists. But they’re ethnically Chinese.

 

Blair Cottrell: Exclusive political structure.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but like, Taiwan has been conquered by other powers throughout history. Like, it was conquered by the Japanese at one point, it was conquered by the Portuguese at one point and so on. But Taiwan is more or less Chinese.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I had a couple of feelings regarding Donald Trump. Just paying attention to his body language, his speeches.

 

I feel like he has Israel fatigue. I feel like Trump is kind of fed up with Israel. And someone in the comments triggered that thought in me. I noticed that in Trump. I noticed that in his demeanor. It feels like he’s annoyed by Israel. He’s sick of Israel, but he doesn’t really openly admit it. He’s still playing the game, but he definitely seems frustrated. More frustrated with Israel than he was by Iran, I think. But he’s still trying to make it seem like he’s kind of equally annoyed by both of them, probably a little bit more by Iran, because nuclear bombs or whatever.

 

But I also got the sensation that isn’t Donald Trump just a stereotypical merchant? I’m not saying nations should be at war with each other, but it is a natural thing. And Trump mentioned many times, why can’t they just go back to trading? They’re excellent trading. Iran great trading. Not traitors as in betraying, but trading like buying and selling.

 

And it’s like a merchant, the big international merchants stepping in and saying:

 

“Hey, guys, stop killing each other. There’s money to be made. Don’t you guys want to make money? Let’s just keep trading and getting rich. Use your population to generate more wealth and start trading those resources. Why fight for something you believe in when you can make money?”

 

That’s kind of how it felt, right? They were the feelings that I had observing Trump’s reaction to this whole debacle between those two nations.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I think that’s an accurate assessment.

 

Also, Trump does have this tendency to kind of do some big individual military action, like where he does like a big, well publicized bombing or something, and then goes, all right, let’s negotiate a piece. Trump is very averse to long drawn out wars.

 

But I think it’s also because I think Trump and his people are aware of what I was describing about China. And their entire strategy seems to be trying to get the affairs in order of the empire broadly, so that they’re able to focus on the threat of China, because that’s why Trump is going easy on the Russians and why he’s trying to come to the table with Putin and make a deal where Biden was not looking at doing that. Not because Trump is some Russian agent or something. I don’t think you could argue that he’s a jewish agent, but you can’t argue that he’s a Russian agent. I don’t think there’s evidence for that.

 

But the reason why he’s doing that is because of pragmatism. It’s just simply the assessment that if you’re going to go to war with China, you don’t also want to have the Russians on the side of the Chinese against you and fight on two fronts. You’d rather neutralise the Russians so that you can take on the Chinese directly. And that’s kind of what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to kind of change the state of play. And Israel is just a thorn in his side because Israel is just focused upon Israel’s narrow individual interests,

 

Blair Cottrell: Ethnocentric interests.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course, of course. And for Israel, this is a golden opportunity. Israel have been pretty successful in their conflict with Hamas. They were successful against Hezbollah in their recent battle. The Assad regime fell in Syria.

 

So all these dominoes are falling all around them. And it’s like, now there’s. Now they’ve got the chance to go and try and force the issue on Iran. They’ve got their guy Trump in office who they think they can get something out of because they’ve got leverage over him. He’s embedded in all these jewish power structures.

 

You know, I remember when we talked about it on the show a few weeks ago when there was discussion about Trump and Epstein, because it was brought up. Oh, what happened here?

 

Blair Cottrell: You lost your camera by the look.

 

All right, well, I’m expecting Joel to be back momentarily. Here he is. Seems to be having some technical issues, and I’m not sure I have. The mental acurity. Is acurity a word.q

 

What I’m trying to say is I don’t believe I have the necessary knowledge to follow on with that point. I just can’t see your face. I can hear you, but I can’t see you.

 

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Joel Davis: What the fuck is going on? One second. Yeah, it’s mental acuity.

 

Blair Cottrell: Acuity. Right, right. I always have the right word in my memory bank. But A, I don’t actually know what it means, and B, I often mispronounce it, but the word is in the bank. It’s the strangest thing. It’s like well, why do I know the right word to use if I can’t even be sure of what it means? Words often sound like what you want them to mean. What I mean is words mean what they sound like they mean. Have you found that with English? That’s what I think.

 

Anyway. What I’m saying is sometimes I’m thinking and the right words just come to me and I don’t know why that happens. Sometimes I don’t even know what they mean. And that’s an example of that right there.

 

But anyway, you’re back now, so continue. What was it you were saying?

 

Joel Davis: Oh, what I was saying was that this was discussed when Elon Musk had his flame out against Trump a few weeks ago and then mentioned that:

 

“Well, why do you think the Epstein files haven’t been released? Well, it’s because they implicate Trump.”

 

Or whatever it was that he said. I don’t remember the words exactly. Well, there’s something to that because Trump and Epstein were like best buddies from the late 80s to the early 2000s. All these videos of them partying together.

 

In fact, Epstein even described Trump as one of his best friends in an interview in the 90s. Trump said many great things, positive things about Jeffrey Epstein, including:

 

“Jeffrey Epstein. You know, he’s got a he loves the women, particularly those on the younger side. He’s a lot like me.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that what he actually said?

 

Joel Davis: Something like that. Okay, yeah.

 

I can’t remember the exact quote, but it was something words to that effect. I can look it up.

 

But the reason why they fell out in the mid 2000s. I shared a really good post on this by Devon Stack, also known as Black Pilled, was because Jeffrey Epstein was trying to buy some mansion in Florida somewhere like Palm beach or something, and Trump outbid him and got the place off him. And it ruined their friendship. Jeffrey was pissed off that Trump screwed him on some deal, took this place that he wanted to buy. And they fell out because of that. Not because Trump realised that he was a pedo or something or that he was a Mossad agent. Trump’s family have been long time friends of the jews. His dad was massive business partner to the jews. All kinds of awards from the jewish community in New York and guys that were doing the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing before Jeffrey Epstein were close friends of the Trump family and so on.

 

So this connection between Trump and Israel goes beyond just money. It wasn’t like Trump just got bought out by Zionist owners. The connection goes much deeper and much further.

 

But my point being that, yes, even though Trump is a massive philo-semite and a supporter of Israel. You know what Israel are asking for at the moment is go and start a war that could potentially destroy the entire American empire. Because we would like you to. It’s not actually necessary. Like if Iran gets nuclear weapons, they’re not going to use them against Israel unless Israel shoot them at them first. Like Israel has 200 nukes. Like Iran’s not going to just start lobbing nukes crazily at Israel and get itself nuked into oblivion just because they’re angry anti-semites or whatever the fuck they’re saying.

 

Blair Cottrell: It would give Iran leverage obviously though, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it would basically protect them. It would deter Israel or America or whatever from fucking with them in the way that they just did, but to a larger degree in a way that could actually destabilise the regime there. So it’s just an act of self defense the fact that if they were to build nuclear weapons, so it’s ridiculous!

 

And then Israel’s complaining about Iran not following certain protocols. Israel hasn’t even formally acknowledged that it has nuclear weapons even though it has 200. Everyone knows that they have about 200 nukes. Those nuclear weapons were illegally stolen off the United States. There’s a lot of, is a lot of credible evidence that the reason why JFK was assassinated was because he was trying to stop Israel getting nuclear weapons. He was an opponent of their nuclear program. He didn’t want them getting nuclear weapons. And then look what happened to him.

 

And then Israel is not a signatory to the non-Proliferation Treaty. Pretty much every country in the world in the 60s and the 70s there was a decision made, okay, we’ve got to like stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons around the world. Obviously it was a bit of gate-keeping by the Soviet Union and the United States, but they were saying let’s stop, let’s shut down nuclear testing. This could be really bad for the environment. It slowed the proliferation of nuclear weapons and most of the countries in the world have signed up to it. Israel never signed it and Iran did. Iran has signed it.

 

So they’re trying to hold Iran to account for rules that they refuse to adhere to. It’s just insane! Like it’s the chutzpah of these kikes. So it isn’t necessary. Like from Israel’s standpoint they’re just greedy. They’re just like, they can see their enemy is in a weak position. They’ve knocked out a lot of its or kind of defeated groups like Hezbollah. They’ve knocked out Assad’s regime in Syria, which is an ally of Iran.

 

[30:17]

 

And so now they’re just trying to take a swing for the throat or they think they’ve got a chance. And Trump’s like:

 

“Fuck! Like, this is the last thing I need right now!”

 

He had like 5 million people in the streets protesting his presidency the other day. There’s the beanner anti-deportation riots happening. This happens. And then so many Trump allies, like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon and so on, come out against Trump, against the war.

 

And a lot of the base, a lot of the people who support Trump, like what Tucker Carlson is saying, like what Steve Bannon is saying, like what even further Right commentators, people like Nick Fuentes, whatever, what these people are saying, Alex Jones. A lot of big commentators in the United States came out against this and the people were with them, particularly young people. So, it’s politically a disaster for Trump, but then also it’s geopolitically just like the last thing that they need right now.

 

And then, not to mention economically, like, if they went to war with Iran because of what it would do to oil prices and so on, it could completely fuck up the economy in a very serious way. So there’s just like this cascading set of crises that would be unleashed by it, which is why he was keen to just try and get it over and done with and move on and re-establish the status quo that previously existed. Because it’s kind of like a nightmare situation, no matter how much he loves Israel.

 

And I think that’s why what happened, happened. But it will probably flare up again before the end of the year because Israel is going to force the issue. Iran, I mean, they’re probably trying to make nuke secretly now. I saw a good article written by someone, I can’t remember who it was. I sent it to you like the other day.

 

Blair Cottrell: I know you did. I know which one you’re going to reference.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like the one saying, obviously Kim Jong Un and the North Koreans have indicated, just build your nuke secretly and then test them and then flex your muscles because no one will touch you because North Korea’s got a bunch of nuclear weapons pointed at South Korea. Matter how much international condemnation there is of their regime, people just accept that it’s just, it exists and there’s nothing you can do about it. And that’s probably what Iran should do and what they’re probably going to try and do.

 

And apparently they’ve still got some of the reports that came out were saying that they’ve still got a lot of enriched uranium hidden somewhere, that they’ve still got reactors hidden, like hidden in other places that weren’t blown up, or that the Fordo site wasn’t destroyed properly, etc, etc.

 

So what happens in three or four months when the Israelis and other war hawks for war with Iran start leaking things to the press saying Iran are building nukes and they’ve rebuilt one of these nuclear sites or whatever? Like, Trump can call it fake news now, but, like, he probably will respond to that kind of pressure.

 

And so then what if, you know, Israel kick it off again, then what? Seems hard to imagine this situation would just magically go away.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you think jewish people have overplayed the Holocaust card? Because I noticed that Netanyahu, in his speech justifying his initial attack on Iran, he said something to the effect of, we can’t allow Iran to nuclear Holocaust us. And then I read an article that was published by Sky News from the, I believe, CEO, who was it? The CEO of the Australian jewish association or something? I think it’s probably just a guy at a desk. It’s nothing serious. But he was published by Sky News. And in the article, I’m pretty sure he mentions Holocaust like five or six times. And I’m thinking, and I didn’t actually read the article, I just wanted to count how many times he mentioned the Holocaust. And I’m thinking, am I the only one doing this, or am I the only one so worn down by the overuse of the Holocaust term because of the politics that I’ve been into? Or is everyone starting to feel this way? Is everybody starting to notice? I don’t know if this is something that people could relate to, but it’s just the justification for everything.

 

Remember that journalists, the Australian journalist, I think he was from ABC perhaps, who interviewed that spokesperson from Israel and said:

 

“So Israel is allowed to have nuclear warheads because Holocaust?”

 

And the spokesperson got really offended and actually walked out of the interview. He’s like, you’re being disrespectful. I’m not doing this interview, right?

 

So I can’t be the only one that’s noticing it. If even ABC journalists are noticing it. Like ABC journalists, I think, are notorious Leftists in Australia. People don’t like them very much. They’re generally very politically biased and even they’re sick of Israel. Jewish people just using Holocaust to justify everything and anything. What do you think? Do you think the general public, the population, do you think for them the Holocaust is starting to become a bit of an eye roll.

 

[35:14]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think you’re seeing it more with Leftists. They’re dismissing the Holocaust. Not that they’re not denying that it happened part. They’re dismissing it on the issue of Israel. I saw a clip from, I think it was Piers Morgan show and Piers Morgan has kind of been inviting on, he’s kind of seeking out controversy with his show. He’ll invite on people that will often debate the Israel-Palestine issue from both sides and he’ll try to interview like Andrew Tate or people like that because he’s going for clicks.

 

And anyway, I can’t remember who the jew was, but they had Anna Kasperian, I think her name is. She’s on the Young Turks program. She’s like Left leaning, like Bernie Sanders, supporting Democrat, but obviously she’s anti-Israel. And her rhetoric. I’ve noticed, I’ve seen quite a few clips from her and she’s a pretty popular commentator in the United States on the Left. Her rhetoric has gone to like full on like ZOG, like it’s a Zionist Occupied Government. Israel control our government. It’s not just, oh, these Christians and White supremacists hate brown people or whatever or these crazy Christians with this insane biblical theories about Israel. It’s like a direct, like Israel, the Mossad, they control our government. What’s going on with Jeffrey Epstein, you know, blah, blah, blah. Talking points that you would hear on the far-Right from people that we associate with. Right on that specific issue.

 

And anyway, the jew, she was debating about whether what’s happening in is in Gaza constitutes a genocide or something like that. He brought up the Holocaust and he’s saying this is not a real genocide. Real genocides are like the Holocaust. Like that’s a real genocide and that’s what happened to our people. And she was like, shut the fuck up! I’m sick of hearing about the Holocaust. How you guys just keep using that. I don’t care about the fucking Holocaust anymore. You’re doing a fucking genocide now! And that’s kind of interesting. You’re seeing that sentiment more from Leftists.

 

And then at the same time was a great exchange between Senator Gerard Rennick and some jew on Twitter that I posted a screenshot of the other day. The jew said:

 

“My family was wiped out in the Holocaust and for over 2,000 years my people were persecuted everywhere they went!”

 

Blah, blah, blah.

 

And then he just kind of shot back with:

 

“I have Celtic heritage. We’ve been persecuted for 2,000 years since the Romans touched us up. Did we go on about it, no, no one cares about your claims of 2,000 years of persecution!”

 

So it was nice to see Rennick fire back too.

 

And so you’re seeing more emboldening from people that are., … Because the anti-zionist, anti-Israel position is now becoming dominant. Basically people under the age of 40, people who get their politics primarily from a media diet of social media rather than mainstream media. Most people are anti-zionists, whether they’re Left-wing or Right-wing. It’s the only thing both sides can seemingly agree on at this point is fuck Israel basically. And yeah, so I think you’re onto something with that. I don’t think the Holocaust is really kind of maintaining the same kind of mystique that it once had.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, I mean, I’m seeing people who I know, clients, relatives of clients. Like I’ll be in the middle of a job and one of my clients will say:

 

“Oh, my brother just sent me this.”

 

Because we talk about politics in a light hearted way.

 

And it’s like a meme, you know the Jaws movie, how there’s a picture of the shark kind of looking up at the I think it’s a woman, or a man swimming on the surface of the water and someone’s just changed the shark to a giant nose and it’s jews instead of Jaws. And he’s like showing it to me, laughing at me, sorry, laughing with me about it. And I’m thinking, this wouldn’t have happened five or six years ago. This is the sort of thing you would only find on Telegram five or six years ago. Now it’s just everywhere and standard people are laughing about it. This kind of anti-semitic meme propaganda.

 

So I’m not sure where that’s going long term.

 

However, I did have a thought. I believe it was yesterday or the day before. I started thinking about why we were censored from X. And I shared my thoughts with you on this briefly as well yesterday, I think. To summarize, I said if all this stuff is allowed on X, all of this, like Nazi material, anti-semitic memes and so forth, then why are we banned? Like, what does that say?

 

Basically, I realised that it’s probably part of a deliberate system to ban the options, because regular people, it’s always effective for regular people to start changing their opinions in favour of what we stand for. Obviously that’s effective, but it’s only effective up to a certain point because people, at the end of the day, they need to do something with that opinion, they need someone to vote for or they need a group to join, they need a party to join, they need to start paying a membership for an organisation, they need to get involved or they need to at least vote for someone who has a bit of a plan. But if they remove all the people with a plan, if they delete the options, then it doesn’t matter what kind of content people are exposed to. If they can’t do anything with the opinions that content is forming in their minds, then it doesn’t, it just doesn’t matter. It doesn’t actually translate into real or affecting real political change.

 

And I think that’s the whole point behind the censorship, at least. What do you think? Because you’ve got people like Nick Fuentes, they’re still allowed on X and there’s other influences and podcasters and so forth. But that kind of ties into what I’m saying, because what are they doing to affect political change? They’re sitting in a studio just talking shit, which is fine. It doesn’t really solve any problems, does it? It doesn’t give people options.

 

But anyone who comes forward as a real option, representing a real new nationalist solution, a new political party that’s actually going to challenge the two party hamster wheel in your respective country or region, then you’re banned, then you’re censored in clusters, all of your colleagues were involved, everyone LinkedIn gets banned at the same time, usually at the request of the hamster wheel two party system in your respective region. What do you think about that? Do you reckon that’s what’s going on?

 

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Joel Davis: No, definitely, I think, yeah. Basically everyone who tries to set up a proper organisation, a party in particular, that people can rally behind, we all got mass banned only when we started making noise that we’re going to start a political party. And I don’t think that’s a coincidence. It was partly because we were gaining kind of lift off with popular resonance and things like that as well.

 

But yeah, you notice a similar thing in Britain. I’ve seen a similar thing, you know, where like all the Patriotic Alternative guys all got banned all at once when they had some successful public action.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s the thing, they’re an option. It doesn’t matter what people’s opinions are if they can’t vote for someone or join some group that’s presenting themselves as an option, a solution. So if the options are banned, I think that’s the game. So everything just becomes content for the sake of content where you’re just scrolling your X feed and you’re seeing all these great funny, Nazi, anti-semitic memes, but there’s no one you can actually, you can laugh with your friends about it and stuff, but you can still only vote for Liberal or Labor. There’s still no known organisation that you can actually join because you don’t know about anything like that going on. Because everyone who represents anything like that gets censored instantly.

 

And I think that’s the way censorship will continue to pan out moving forward. Plenty of memes, plenty of content, but you’ll just be expected to sit there drooling on yourself, consuming that content, and there won’t actually be an option for you, despite your changing opinion.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so they don’t mind people talking about the problems, but they don’t want anyone putting forward an actual solution.

 

Blair Cottrell: What’s changed though? Because they used to hate people talking about the problems. You used to be banned instantly for even trying to bring the problem up.

 

So why suddenly don’t they care about people? It might be that they’ve realised people need that option. And without the option, it doesn’t actually matter what people talk about or what they consume.

 

Joel Davis: I think it’s just that the ability for the powers that be to impose the level of censorship that they were getting away with a few years ago has declined.

 

There’s been a resurgence in the value of freedom of speech. They overstepped the mark. They started going after in America in particular, where all these platforms are run out of, they started going after conservatives, like main mainline conservatives that are not even that radical.

 

I mean, they banned Trump from Twitter for fuck sake. They banned like a sitting president from the platform. So they overstepped the mark.

 

And so then there was a course correction where the American Right asserted freedom of speech and asserted itself on these platforms. Elon Musk buys Twitter. They set up Rumble. The kind of information space gets shifted. Zuckerberg also kind of personally shifted more to the Right.

 

And so this TikTok which has run out of China, there was a changing landscape that emerged that these sites were forced to adapt to.

 

But at the end of the day, when it comes to Australia or Europe or even I think in America where I saw examples of this, like I remember when the National Justice Party existed in the United States, like they all got banned and then you couldn’t even post, like at this, at this point, you can’t actually post our website on Twitter.

 

But I remember that that was true for their website as well. So they really target.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s your White Australia website, is that right?

 

Joel Davis: Correct. White Australia.org or WhiteAus.org, both are banned.

 

Blair Cottrell: What happens when that party actually gets registered? Well, then can it still be targeted for censorship to that degree? Where we can actually be posted on a public social media platform where there’s millions of Australians are joined up to that platform.

 

I mean, they talk about election interference through social media, but that’s exactly what these social media companies do against anyone, you know, right of centre. Usually the greatest election interference is happening amongst X staff right now.

 

But yeah, as I said, it ties back into the sort of perspective that I had over the last couple of days that the whole agenda is to ban the options, is to let people just talk about whatever they want now. To give people the illusion of freedom of speech. But nothing that they can actually do with that freedom of speech that’s going to affect the course of politics in their region. Sit there and watch some streamer, say some stuff about Hitler and wring your hands together and feel good inside about it, laugh about it, get excited about it, but then you still got to go vote for red or blue.

 

At the end of the day, that’s all there is. Anybody else presenting anything else, especially nationalistic, in essence, they get nuked, they get censored, and I think that’s the way the system will slug on forward into the future.

 

[47:11]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I can imagine like say we have World War III against China. I could imagine the system being allowing a lot of anti-Chinese racism to profligate online and in fact encouraging it and having propagandists that frame the war in terms most amenable to people like you and I actually support a war with China. I don’t support starting one, but I support it if it’s necessary. I support trying to win if it happens.

 

Blair Cottrell: Obviously.

 

Joel Davis: And so that could be a good opportunity for us. But like there’s going to be times where, like racism is valuable for many reasons. Like they obviously allowed people like us to run amok on the site in the lead up to the last American election because they’re trying to get Trump in and they knew that the more swastikas and sunrads that were posted on Twitter, there’d be more votes for Trump with young people and it worked. So they try to channel racism for their own ends. It’s the most powerful force in politics. So it doesn’t surprise me at all!

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s the most powerful force in the world. Racism. Racism is kind of the precondition for the development of all living things, isn’t it? It’s like woven into nature that surrounds us. Like, racism is probably the most foundational reality of this physical plane where we live. It’s the basis for all life. You don’t see any magpies running around pursuing crows because they want to be more diverse. But yeah, I can understand that. Racism is obvious, obviously leverage, but it’s done in a smart way.

 

I don’t like to believe that I’m just playing into the agenda of American, you know, political brains, though. I mean, all I was doing essentially on X was, I suppose, supporting and trying to legitimize. I mean, I’m part of an agenda as well. I’m part of a political agenda. It’s quite obvious the agenda I’m part of I like to think that I’m part of a good agenda. I’m trying to popularise and legitimize the White Australia movement. Right. I believe that there’s nothing wrong with being a White Australian.

 

And I think that could become a popular talking point in the future, especially when White Australians start becoming a minority or when things get so bad that you can’t go down to a shopping centre without potentially being raped or stabbed by a coloured migrant from Africa. Already we’re dawning on that reality now.

 

So the agenda I’m part of, because I’m part of it. I’m not directly linked in, I’m not an active member, but because I’m someone with a voice people listen to and I was creating content to try to translate what you guys were doing for the ordinary viewer. Well, that’s enough reason for me to also be taken out with the rest of the guys in censorship. You know, it’s frustrating because you know what? I won’t get into it. I’m not going to sook about censorship because if I was in control, I’d be censoring my enemies as well, straight up. I wouldn’t be giving people ideas.

 

Joel Davis: Need to figure out how to adapt. That’s why it’s important that people clip and re-upload the show, for example, and re-upload stuff that we post. When Blair posts a video on Telegram or whatever, re-upload it on other sites, enable our voice to keep getting out there regardless. That’s invaluable to circumvent the censorship that we’re under.

 

But also we just have to adapt. I think building the political party will give us strong standing to get back on a lot of these sites and to normalise ourselves in.

 

Blair Cottrell: The thing that irritates me most about it is just the whole concept of democracy. I would be more satisfied with this whole ordeal if the Australian government, the people within Australian government just came out and said:

 

“Hey, we’re not allowing these opinions. We’re censoring certain opinions. We’re banning certain political ideologies. This is not a democracy anymore!”

 

I’ll be like, okay, at least I know where I stand. But they keep parroting bullshit and trying to present themselves as something that they’re not. You know, that they stand for these democratic principles that they don’t stand for. So they just lie to your face. While in reality there’s like counterinsurgency departments that exist purely to harass and censor political dissidents in this Australian democracy. And that’s what frustrates me so much, because you do your best to obey the law. You do your best to hold to the principles that you were raised to believe in the principles of being fair, diplomatic, you know, principle of free speech, not being violent, all that kind of stuff. You observe all of those rules, social boundaries and laws, and you still just don’t get any rights. It’s like you still just get censored, harassed, de-banked, followed. You get police knocking on your door, asking you about the political party you might be joining in the future. You know, it’s just a complete Police State down here in Australia.

 

And so it just pisses me off that they can’t just admit that that’s what they are. I suppose Chris Minns is the one who’s come closest to actually admitting it. The premier of New South Wales, he said that, hey, we can’t basically, can’t have free speech in this multicultural paradise because it might hurt feelings, and we can’t have that. So free speech is cancelled. He didn’t say it exactly like that, but that’s basically what he believes. I can respect that more than what some of those other assholes passing themselves off as politicians, whatever people’s representatives are actually presenting themselves. As actually still pretend that they’re living in some sort of democracy or are members of a democracy. There’s nothing Democratic about Australia. I don’t know. Do you agree, Joel? What do you think?

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, they pretend that we live in a liberal democracy.

 

[53:22]

 

Blair Cottrell: Before you chime in, sorry, I know I just passed it to you and I’m starting again. The real test will be whether or not you guys can actually register your political party and participate in this so-called democracy. You know, that’s going to be the real, the big reveal as to how free and Democratic this so-called Australian democracy is because I’ve got a feeling they’re not going to let you do it.

 

But with Chris Minns right now, I brought up Chris Minns, he’s under a bit of fire right now, isn’t he? Because his staffers have been called to account for their role in imposing new Hate Speech laws. Basically tampering with Australian law to make it more difficult to criticise jewish people. Changing vilification laws specifically I think all on the back of the caravan hoax.

 

But now his staffers actually refuse to show up to the initial inquiry, which they’ve got to show up to it I think if they’re summoned.

 

So the arrogance of Chris Minns’ office, the staffers in Chris Minns’ office has led to what I think might be potential arrests. What’s going on with that, Joel? Have Chris Minns’ staff has been arrested or are they going to be arrested? Do they have to come to court? What’s the next step there?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so what happened is that the, we talked about it on the show last week that there was the Legislative Council which is like the Upper House of the state government, they are doing an inquiry, an official inquiry into what happened because obviously the day that they’re passing these laws it’s coming out that this thing is a hoax and they’re ramming them through anyway. And we talked about it at the time.

 

Not only was it a hoax, it was literally paid for by foreign state actors, almost definitely Israel basically paying bikies to conduct false flag anti-semitic terrorist attacks to create a pretext to change laws to make it illegal to criticise jews or make it illegal for White people to criticise any minority groups basically in Australia.

 

Anyway, the role that Chris Minns’ staff has played is being subject to the inquiry because they’re alleging that they knew about it well ahead of time and deliberately concealed the fact that it was a hoax in order to ram this stuff through and only allowed it to kind of come to the surface after that successfully secured a passage through the state like the Legislative Council. Now it’s kind of become interesting because basically they subpoenaed them. They said you got to come and answer our questions. They refused to show up. They all refused to show up.

 

Blair Cottrell: So now it literally didn’t show up. They didn’t refuse. They didn’t write ahead and say:

 

“Hey, we’re not coming!”

 

They just didn’t even answer. There was just empty seats on the day.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And they’re still refusing to show up. So why, if they’ve got nothing to hide, why can’t they show up? Why can’t the members elected by the people ask them some questions about what they were doing? What are they trying to hide? Obviously something.

 

Blair Cottrell: And you know, Chris Minns was interviewed about it recently and he said:

 

“Disappointing, concerning and massive overreach for his staffers to have to actually explain why they tampered with Australian law on the back of a hoax.”

 

It’s disappointing, concerning and massive overreach to be held accountable for changing Australian laws on the back of a hoax. That’s what he said. Not word for word, but that’s what he was alluding to in an interview with a journalist. Imagine that. Imagine believing that you’re free from any accountability, that you can just pass laws based on lies and hoaxes behind the back of the Australian people.

 

And then when you’re held to account for it, oh, you’re a victim. This is massive overreach. This is disappointing. How dare you ask me to be to answer your questions. That was Chris Minns’ reaction and he’s been having a dig at Mark Latham too. I saw in a recent clip. Why is that? What role is Mark Latham played?

 

Joel Davis: So, yeah, I’ll get to that.

 

The bottom line is that they have no respect for law. Like legally they have to show up and answer questions if they’ve been subpoenaed. And they technically within the power to issue arrest warrants. They haven’t been issued yet. I think these things are being stalled because of the political connections between Chris Minns and the people that are ultimately responsible for issuing the warrants or not so Chris Minns is basically just trying to shut it down through favours and back room deals and so on. So we’ll see if that’s successful.

 

But yeah, the Liberal Party in New South Wales, they refused because initially guys like Mark Latham and some of the other Right-wing minor party members in New South Wales, they tried to push a motion to repeal the laws entirely in light of the revelations. The Liberal Party refused to help them do that. But the Liberal Party then agreed to doing an inquiry because Liberal Party knew it would create a shitstorm for Labor. Like what is happening now, which would be good for them in the polls but obviously they’re in the pocket of the jews. They don’t want to actually repeal the laws. It’s a typical Liberal Party where they pretend to be on our side but really complicit.

 

[59:01]

 

But anyway, obviously Mark Latham is Independent. He was on the One Nation ticket. He got kicked out of One Nation for rampant homophobia, for basically. Which was quite funny. Remember we talked about it at the time on the show like two years ago when yeah. He quite graphically described how disgusting anal sex is in response to some homosexual politician that criticised him.

 

So anyway, Mark Latham, he hates poofters. He’s increasingly seeming to hate jews. Well not really but you know he did call out the jewish lobby. He said that Chris Minns was emboldening the jewish lobby, that the jewish lobby has too much power and so on. And Latham is one of the front men of this inquiry along with the other Right-wing minor party legislative councilmen who are trying to hold the government to account.

 

And so it’s a bit of political theatre. Chris Minns is accusing Mark Latham of advancing nefarious anti-semitic conspiracy theories and so on. And Mark Latham responded on Twitter this evening to a clip of that posted by Australians versus the Agenda declaring:

 

“Chris Minns is his bitch!”

 

So that was quite funny. I guess he’s out for blood. He’s trying to take Mins down. He sees this as a political opportunity to take the hatchet to the knee of Minns and his government.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, now’s the time to put the pressure on. Minns needs to be exposed. He needs to be embarrassed.

 

Anyway, anyone can put the pressure on him now, they should do it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, absolutely! And at Mark Latham he recently got lost a court case for damages against this homosexual. I think he was from the Greens, Alex Greenwich, I think he was the member for Sydney. So he was voted in by all the Oxford street faggots into that position, I presume. Yeah, a judgement was held that he has to pay him half a million dollars in damages for just simply stating that anal sex is disgusting! What the fuck kind of country do we live in where it costs half a million dollars to offend a homosexual by declaring anal sex is disgusting!

 

So I think Mark Latham has a bit of a kind of punished aura at the moment. You know, 20 years ago he was the head of the Labor Party. He almost became prime minister. Now he’s getting tossed out of One Nation for being a homophobe and, basically getting bankrupted by the system.

 

And so what has he got left to lose? He might as well take on the jews. He might as well do some damage to the ruling elite while he’s still got a position. So good on him. I think it’s funny. Mark Latham defended The Noticer when they did a notice, a hit piece saying that Notice The Noticer is a neo-Nazi psyop, basically. And, yeah, he’s kind of flirted more with, like our guys on Twitter. Mark Latham’s a bit of a cuck on race, or more than a bit of a cuck. He’s a cuck on race. He’s not a true nationalist, but he does seem like he’s somewhat of a real human being.

 

And it seems like he kind of tried to be an establishment politician and kind of was chewed up and spat out through a long [word unclear]

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe the reason Latham’s not an ethnic nationalist is because he spent all his time around White Parliamentarians and he just can’t stand you know, [chuckling] so it’s pretty hard to believe in your own race when that’s the extent of the experience that you’ve had with your own race is White Parliamentarians. I don’t envy his kind of company. There’s another way. Latham, if you’re watching this, there’s another way. It doesn’t have to be Parliament.

 

Joel Davis: Well, actually, I’ve seen Mark Latham Fed post on Twitter when he’s had a few beers. He’s basically said:

 

“We need a revolution to overthrow a corrupt ruling establishment.”

 

And so on.

 

Blair Cottrell: So he must be there. He must be almost there!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it does seem, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It takes some of us longer to get there, but there’s no shame in that.

 

Joel Davis: It does seem like Mark Latham is, yeah, he’s kind of become alienated. He tried to do it all the right way, supposedly according to the rules of the old paradigm. He was a true believer in social democracy or whatever.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what happens! That’s exactly what I was talking about before.

 

Joel Davis: Now he’s a jaded, old goat.

 

Blair Cottrell: He would be sort of feeling the same frustration that I feel I suppose where you’ve been raised to adhere to these principles, you do adhere to them.

 

But then the same people who kind of claim to uphold those principles and stand for those principles, they just chew you up and spit you out through all sorts of underhanded tactics. He called me once when I was at the height of my activism, because he had a show I can’t remember what it was called. You might remember he had like a podcast or something going on.

 

I can’t remember what it was called. But I was just working on a job site I think in Eltham. He rings me and he goes:

 

“Blair?”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yes.”

 

And he goes:

 

“Mark Latham.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“G’ day mate, how can I help you?”

 

And he goes:

 

“Yeah, do you want to come on the show?”

 

I said:

 

“What show is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“My show.”

 

 

And I’m just like:

 

“Can I call you back? I’m just in the middle of something.”

 

Because I was on a scaffold like trying to repair this eaves that was like hanging past the scaffold and like I was kind of balancing. But he seemed to get offended. He’s just like:

 

“Yeah, right.”

 

And he just hung up on me. Then I tried to call him back and he didn’t answer. I don’t know, maybe he’s having a bad day. But that’s the extent of the interaction that I’ve had with Mark Latham. He’s got grumpy bad energy. He’s got the grumpy old bad energy he does.

 

[1:05:03]

 

Joel Davis: But he’s kind of like one of the few politicians that actually has like red blood in his veins. The only time I was in, I never spoke to him one on one, but anything resembling a conversational context was him just ranting at a conference I attended a few years ago, ranting about how Julia Gillard was a lesbian, how her so-called husband is a beard, that he’s a homosexual himself and that faggots have taken over Australian politics and lamenting this fact, which was quite humourous.

 

But what Latham tweeted last week that kind of provoked things was him saying two jews on Sky News saying, quote:

 

“The fake anti-semitism narrative must stop. Might be better to stop legislating when New South Wales police say none of those arrested have anti-semitic ideology. It was a con job set up by mobsters. Minns emboldened the jewish lobby and now it’s out of control.”

 

So we’re seeing Australian politicians call out the jews probably for the first time I can remember in my lifetime having multiple Australian politicians call out the jews directly. It does feel like a bit of a sea change. John Lawson posted a picture of Mark Latham standing over John Howard and aggressing with his hands and like getting in his face. And Latham’s replying to that, he’s replying to other nationalists. Someone said:

 

“Wait a minute, is New South Wales politics actually getting interesting for a change?”

 

And he said:

 

“We ride to the sound of the guns!”

 

So Latham’s on the war path. He doesn’t give a fuck anymore! It’s pretty funny. Funny thing, these old politicians that got chewed up and spat out by the major parties kind of like turn. And it’s the smartest politicians. I think Mark Latham and Gerard Rennick are the two highest IQ politicians in Australia and they’re the two that are calling out the jews. So what does that say?

 

Blair Cottrell: They might, Rennick and Latham might want to read the chapter of Mein Kampf where Hitler explains what happens to someone with real ability who goes into Parliament. Not just someone with real ability, but someone who genuinely holds to principles, who wants to stand up for their country. You should read what Hitler has to say about people like that that go into Parliament and how Parliament just basically becomes a mob to destroy them and get them out. Because in order to survive in Parliament, you need to be a rat without principles! You go into Parliament with principles, they all basically unite against you to get you out. That’s essentially what he says, but he says it much more articulately, he writes it much more articulately than that you can read it for yourself if you want.

 

Joel Davis: But I love, though, how there’s this emerging kind of renegade like cast in Australian politics, which was previously quite boring and monotonous. We don’t agree with them on everything, but people like Latham, people like Ralph Babet and a few of these other guys that are kind of at least causing problems for the system, and that’s kind of our aspiration, I guess in politics is to kind of join the team and push things even harder and faster and further. The kind of outsider team of Right-wing disturbers and chaos agents, just going Joker mode.

 

And I think Aussies love that kind of thing. Aussies love an underdog, Aussie’s love sticking it to the man, all that type of thing. So I think that would actually make politics interesting to have a kind of cast of colourful characters, you know, engaging in that more in the years going ahead. And I think that’s probably what we should aim for on the Right-wing of politics is to develop that because that could be the kind of catalyst for meaningful change.

 

Because as I said, as the reason why I was talking about international politics earlier is World War III is on the horizon. It might not be next week, but it is on the horizon. And when that moment arrives, all bets are off. It’s going to be a total reset of politics. And after World War III is over, is everyone going to be focused on World War II anymore? I don’t think so. there’s going to be a whole new World War for everyone, for the whole world order to be rebuilt around. And the animating myth is going to be all the horrible things that the chinks did to us and so on, rather than how bad the Holocaust was. It’s going to be a total reset of the collective psyche.

 

Blair Cottrell: We are in post World War II fairy tale land, aren’t we?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it’s time’s almost up. Like there’s almost no one alive that remembers World War II at this point.

 

And by the time World War III is over, there’ll be barely anyone alive who remembers it, but everyone will be remembering what just happened. And what would have just happened is a race war against the Chinese, from our perspective. We’ve got 1.7 million chinks in our country. They’re all going to have to be put in camps or something worse. They’re not going to be able to be trustworthy members of Australian society anymore. There’s going to be a division by race. I think it’s going to be a total reset of our collective values. We’re going to pretend that men and women are totally equivalent at wartime when we actually have to go boots on the ground in the hundreds of thousands and fight to the death? I don’t think so. I think everyone’s going to come back to reality. They’re going to have to, they’re going to have no choice.

 

[1:10:34]

 

And so this confrontation with reality is coming.

 

And so our job is at the moment is to try and get ready for that. Because a lot of people are black pilled because they think that the current paradigm, this kind of monotonous slow grind is just going to continue on ad infinitum forever. Nothing’s ever going to happen, nothing’s ever going to change and we’re all just going to go out with a wimper. That’s not how history works. That’s not what’s going to happen. There’s going to be a major crisis. Everything is going to get blown up and remade. All of our values are going to get reset in the coming generations. And the work that we’re doing now is setting the table for that next generation to eat. Like we’re getting things ready for the paradigm shift which is on the horizon.

 

So people need to think like that if we have a movement established, even if it’s just tens of thousands or 100,000 men and we’re only getting a certain percentage of the vote and we have one or two guys elected or something, we’re going to at least be in a position to make the most of the coming crises, to grow and gain influence and gain a seat at the table. We want to have a seat at the table at World War 3 from the Australian political perspective. We want to have a seat at the table because in order to conduct World War 3, as we said before, what’s the most powerful force in politics? Right? Racism! That’s the main force you’re going to be able to channel in the Australian people to get them to fucking fight. And we are the arbiters of racism in our country. We are the vanguard!

 

So we’re going to take on a very different role in our society from just being these hated, despised, controversial outsiders. We’re going to end up becoming, we’re going to have a completely different relevance in society in the coming decades.

 

So we have to get ready, we have to get building and time is running out. We need to get serious. The next few years, it’s indeterminate, when all hell is going to break loose. But it’s going to happen soon.

 

So yeah, and the Anthony Albanese’s of the world are going to get wiped away. They’re not going to survive. We’re not going to be electing gay nerds into office after World War III. It’s going to call for a completely different kind of politician politics in general. The whole social attitude will change. The men who come back from World War III are going to come back embittered, but also entitled. They just went and fought to the death for the future of their nation. Are they going to come back and just allow it to be fucking given away to women in pants suits and fucking Indians? I don’t fucking think. So I don’t.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think when all of that comes about, you’re a little bit frozen up, by the way, I can hear you fine, but your camera is just all frozen up. And it’s not just for me because I’m noticing someone in the comments mentioned it too. But watch all the other races in Australia and probably throughout other Western countries, watch them all suddenly be on their best behaviour when that situation with China that probably will turn into a new World War eventually comes around, because suddenly White people will begin to become more conscious of the fact that they are White and that they have their own ethnic interests at stake. And outsiders are going to become easier to recognise. Because with that basic introduction of the anti-Chinese racism that you say will become kind of a central feature of life during that time, you know, naturally we’re going to start recognizing other people who aren’t like us as well more easily.

 

And all of those arrogant Indians that are currently boasting about taking over certain regions in our country, all the Africans who are on home invasion sprees and murdering doctors in the hills, happened just last year. A young 17 year old was just convicted of that a couple of days ago in Melbourne. All of these people, I think will suddenly be on their best behaviour, and it’s going to be an interesting shift, interesting change.

 

I’m not overly excited about anti-semitism being a mainstream thing again because I know that that’s how things pretty much always were throughout the history of Europe, at least before the Second World War, leading up to the Second World War. Basically every country was anti-semitic as a general rule. I mean, Christians just generally understood that jewish people weren’t to be trusted. There was an understanding that jewish people weren’t generally friendly to Christians. I think that was mostly prevalent throughout Europe. And I’m sure there were times in some countries where that consensus, that understanding kind of became less prevalent and then something would happen and people would realise the reality of the situation again, because you’ve got times where kings in England, for example, like oh, now the jews are okay. And then 15 years later they’re kicking the jews out again. But the jews know how to live. They would have necessary, or how should I put it? They would have essential blood memories. So they know how to survive in environments where anti-semitism is rife. So I wouldn’t get too excited about it.

 

But it is exciting to consider what the world would look like, what Australia would look like if White people redeveloped a bit of ethnic consciousness. That’s what I’m trying to say, in essence. And that’s really all that I want to see in my lifetime.

 

I mean, I don’t really want for much. I would just like to die having seen a country filled with my own people who know who they are and know who their enemy is, who are able to recognise outsiders and threats. So I feel like I’ve died having served some sort of purpose, you know.

 

[1:16:14]

 

Joel Davis: Sure. I think for Americans the jewish issue is more central because that’s the kind of centre of jewish power in the world is the United States. And they exercise a lot more influence over American political and cultural life.

 

Blair Cottrell: That Zionist, that Judeo-Christian mythology, whatever you want to call it’s kind of popular in America, isn’t it? Maybe not so much as it was 10 years ago, but there’s still that, yeah, God’s chosen people thing going on.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, obviously there’s that. But even beyond that, just jews occupy a very prominent role in American life. Like, even though they’re like 3% of the population, they’re massively over-represented in media.

 

So if you’re watching podcasts, like there was the Leather Apron Club videos where he went through all the big podcasts, like all the big political podcasts, Tim pool, Joe Rogan, etc, etc. And he was going through them all and it was like a third plus of the guests on all these podcasts were jewish. Even though they’re only 3% of the population, they’re over-represented in the kind of tastemaking culture setting domains.

 

And so they have an outsized influence on American culture and political life, not to mention all the money that they’re putting in. And this is true on the Left-wing and the Right. It’s not just like the religious Zionists or whatever. Jews are more influential probably on the Left than on the Right in America in many ways, because just of how the majority of them are Leftists in the United States.

 

So that’s a big deal for Americans. And also primarily it’s the American military that’s getting dragged in to fight Zionist wars and so on. Like, we get kind of dragged along, but it’s kind of a secondary thing for us. It’s more primary for them. So it’s a more prominent issue for them.

 

But the reason why we did The jews Hate Freedom protest before Christmas last year, it wasn’t just because of the topical nature of that issue, which obviously it was primarily about, but it was because I think that’s the best way to frame the jewish problem to Australians in the current year, which is what is the jewish lobby primarily pushing for in Australia? The main thing that it’s pushing for always is hate speech legislation. And more and more attacks on our freedom of speech. Every single time anything happens, jews come out into the media and demand more arrests, more laws passed and so on. They want to shut us down. And Australians value freedom, and so they don’t appreciate this small minority trying to take away the freedoms of the rest of us because of their own hysteria and their own lack of ability to take criticism.

 

So I think that’s the strong frame and I think it’s a strong frame for Americans as well, I mean, there’s jews clamouring in the United States to take away their freedoms as well. And there’s nothing, there’s probably no value that Americans hold more dear than liberty.

 

So the kind of jews versus freedom framing I think is the best framing. You know, last week I criticised Sam Hyde for going on a podcast and trying to frame the problem with jews as:

 

“Well, look at the genocide that they’re doing in Palestine. Do you want to pay for that with your tax dollars?”

 

And it’s like, that’s probably convincing to like Leftists who sympathize with browns. But like, we should be talking about what jews are doing to us! Like how we are negatively affected by jewish institutional behaviour, not other groups. You know, who gives a shit about Palestinians ultimately, other than bleeding Leftists, not that many people or like Muslims, but like, who does the average patriotic White Australian care about themselves? Ourselves. So it needs to be framed in those terms. And you know, a lot of the problems that are occurring in Australia, they don’t boil down to jews. Like the problems with mass immigration and so on. Jews have played a leading role in advancing mass immigration and multiculturalism and so on. But it’s not just the jews.

 

Like, it’s a coalition of different groups, whether it be the housing industry, whether it be ideological Leftists and globalists, whether it be other, like non-White minority groups in their lobbying efforts or voting blocs or whatever. There’s a coalescence of anti-White forces in our society.

 

But on the issue of free speech, jews are playing a massively outsized and prominent role in attacking it. So on the one hand they try to portray themselves as:

 

“Oh, but you know, Israel’s a free liberal democracy. And if you oppose Israel, you’re allying yourself with these communists and Muslims who hate freedom and liberalism.”

 

And so you’re like some backwards, you know, fascist or something. That’s how they frame things. But it’s ridiculous! That’s such a weak frame. We need to smash through that framework and say:

 

“No, we’re on the side of freedom. You’re on the side of tyranny!”

 

If you’re not doing anything wrong, if the jewish role in society isn’t a problem, if what Israel’s doing isn’t a problem, why can’t we talk about it? Why can’t you just sit down and debate it and defend your position openly?

 

Blair Cottrell: Don’t you care about the Holocaust, Joel?

 

So what you’re saying in essence is anti-semitism is equivalent to the highest knowledge.

 

Joel Davis: What do you mean by that?

 

[1:21:49]

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m sort of like borrowing a Christian. I don’t know if it’s a Christian phrase or it’s actually from the Bible, says:

 

“Fear of God is equivalent to the highest knowledge.”

 

It’s true in religion maybe, but in politics anti-semitism is equivalent to the highest knowledge. You would think that you go into life thinking that any kind of prejudice any kind of stereotyping a person is just prejudice. And you’re not going to give yourself to that kind of brutal nature of thought.

 

But then the more you actually pay attention, you realise there’s a good reason for stereotypes, ethnic stereotypes in particular, and that there’s anti-semitism for a reason. It’s not just because people are idiots. It’s because people have observed the reality of a nature of a certain group of people for a very long time. [chuckling] It’s like that people continue to engage in certain practices, continue to behave in a certain way which leads other people to be somewhat hostile to them for their own purposes, which is usually a natural response.

 

So I think in summary, you could say that anti-semitism is the result of a lot of acquired knowledge. It’s not just some knee jerk reaction springing from prejudice or bigotry, as they try to frame it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the problems associated with the jewish community and its influence over our society, it actually requires like careful study and analysis. It’s not something which is like directly evident. I think people who have a more superficial view of society, they tend to not have very strong opinions on jews. They’ll be more upset at other groups that are more prominent and public facing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Did you hear? Well, that’s the point, isn’t it? That’s probably one of the reason the jewish people aren’t so prominent and public facing.

 

Joel Davis: I think a we’ve talked about on the show before. I think it’s a big mistake for them. They’re shooting themselves in the foot. They should shut up and retreat into the background. If they truly aren’t doing anything wrong, shut up and retreat into the background and allow us to have our race war with the Indians and the Chinese and the Muslims and all these other groups and retreat into the background and pretend to be on whichever side is winning, you know. [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: I do like the way like the standard jewish merchant that I’ve had dealings with in construction in the past. I do like the way they don’t flaunt their wealth. It’s one thing that the standard average jewish character from the southeast region of Melbourne, like Malvern, Elston, Wick regions, you would never know that they were wealthy. But they do tend to have access to a great deal of wealth. Like they’ll own big car parks in the city, high rise hotel buildings or family members of theirs will own that stuff and they’ll have shares in it kind of thing. But they’ll drive the kind of cars, they’ll drive a Camry and they’ll be wearing tracksuit pants and a T-shirt from Kmart or just some button up polo from Kmart. You know, they’re unshaven sometimes you don’t, you would never know. These are the way a lot of the jewish merchants around Melbourne operate, operate. And I kind of admire that because it at least is an expression of ego control to some extent.

 

Because when you think about it, the people who wear the big fat watches and lots of jewelry and drive around in like $200,000 Maseratis, what’s the point of that? What is the point in flaunting your wealth? What’s the point in wasting money on that shit in the first place? Like, what are you actually trying to achieve? Like:

 

“Look at me, I’m really rich and special!”

 

Isn’t that just ego fragility? Just that you’re trying to draw attention to yourself.

 

Joel Davis: So if you’re a billionaire Blair, you’re telling me you wouldn’t buy a fast car?

 

Blair Cottrell: I definitely wouldn’t. I would buy a nice Tiguan. I would buy a very nice Volkswagen Tiguan, because they’re a good reliable car and I would like a nice new, new sort of updated.

 

Joel Davis: I’d buy an Aston Martin. I’d buy an Aston Martin.

 

Blair Cottrell: You don’t want to be driving around in a car like that in the current climate though. You’re just going to, it’s probably just going to get stolen by Africans. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t buy nice things because they’ll be stolen by Africans.

 

What I’m saying is, …

 

Joel Davis: Put it in the garage! How they’re going to get?

 

Blair Cottrell: But why do you need it? Like this is what I’m talking about.

 

Joel Davis: I want to do 240km an hour down the highway!

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, but when are you going to do that? In the middle of the night when the coppers aren’t going to catch you.

 

Joel Davis: I’m doing 240. Good luck catching me. Plus, I got enough money to pay the tickets if I’m a billionaire.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right, [chuckling] but you’re gonna get sick of that eventually. I mean, okay, that’s a hobby. You’re talking about a hobby, but I’m talking about why would you, like, walk around in lots of gold chains, jewelry, …

 

Joel Davis: I wouldn’t walk around in gold chains.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like express your wealth? Like, what’s the point?

 

Joel Davis: I just would like to drive a ridiculously fast car, ridiculously fast. Because it’s fun.

 

Blair Cottrell: I get it. But again, we’re just talking about hobbies. If you had a lot of money, you wouldn’t. If you had a lot of, …

 

Joel Davis: I think jews are too neurotic, like:

 

“Oh, I’m gonna crash!”

 

Like, they wouldn’t even have the balls to go 240, you know?

 

[1:27:32]

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I gotta admit, I don’t know. I mean, what’s the point in driving 240 or just for the thrill rush. Man! What I’m saying though, is I think the jews, not all of them, obviously, but the majority of them, they must be raised this way. Or maybe it’s just part of their genetic nature. They do seem to have good outward ego control where they don’t flaunt their wealth.

 

But it’s probably all part of their subversive demeanour. Right? So you don’t really expect much from them. It is very true that you never really expect much from jewish people. When you deal with them on an individual basis, they always seem kind of nervous and skittish and you kind of feel sorry for them. That’s the impact they’ve always had on me. You kind of feel sorry for them and so you’re extra nice to them, because this is long before I ever really knew what I knew about jews. So I do admire that one element of their disposition, which is they don’t tip, they don’t tend to flaunt their wealth. And they’re some of the wealthiest people you’ll ever work with or for, if you’re in whatever industry that you’re in where you might come across them.

 

Joel Davis: I think the main thing to admire about them is that they invest a lot of their wealth in the advancement of their community rather than just the advancement of themselves as individuals.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that’s true.

 

Joel Davis: There are a lot of Anglo millionaires and billionaires, like multi, multi-millionaires and billionaires in this country who don’t put one single dollar into the advancement of White Australia, which is why the country is being stolen from us!

 

The jews are 0.4% of the population and their lobby is so aggressive and powerful because they pay for it. They put their community first as a group. And you know, meanwhile a lot of our richest people are fundamentally making money off our replacement. Maybe they’re working in industries that benefit from cheap non-White labour or if they’re in housing construction, they’re benefiting from mass immigration or whatever.

 

Blair Cottrell: And it makes your eye roll thinking about your parents, doesn’t it? I mean, I love my parents, but the standard sort of White Boomer parents, all they really think about is their retirement, is retiring comfortably and spending all the money or wealth that they’ve generated throughout their lifetime on themselves at the end of their lives. Which people watching this might think, good on them.

 

I mean, that’s the phrase they use in Australia:

 

“Oh, good on them. They should be able to do that. They’ve worked hard their whole lives!”

 

Yeah, I get it.

 

But when you contrast that kind of decision making process with what the jews are doing, with what the Chinese are doing, with what pretty much every other race in this country are doing, it’s kind of retarded to just blow all the wealth that you have generated through your working life on yourself and Martinis and cruises and fine dining before you die while your children have to inherit the mess that you fucking leave behind! I mean, you got to admit that’s pretty retarded, right.

 

I think being a bit more collectivist and having a little bit more foresight, generational foresight with the money that you make in your life, if you’re a Boomer, might serve your nation to some extent.

 

And that’s right, someone says in the comments:

 

“They taught our people to think as individuals.”

 

That’s the problem. And the Boomers can be really bad for that. Like I’m not an anti-boomer sort of guy. I’m a bit of a Boomer appreciater it in a lot of ways, because they do work really hard. They’re an industrious people. They’re always trying to fix things. They don’t like to relax, they’re always working. But they’ve definitely been geared to think on individual basis and that’s why all they seem to care about is their retirement.

 

Joel Davis: The Strausshowe generational theory predicts that Boomers and Gen-X’s will be more individualistic because Boomers grew up at a time of great prosperity. They grew up at the time after World War II, where you know, society was on high, institutions were working incredibly well. There were incredible opportunities. They’re highly idealistic generation that challenged spiritually the values of the old order because there was no crisis for them to really, like, confront in their lifetime. So their politics or their cultural involvement primarily became one of spiritual dissatisfaction.

 

Then you have the Gen-X’s who are like more jaded individualists, where the Boomers are idealistic individualists who want freedom and liberation and all this kind of stuff. And so they’re very focused on how they can enjoy their retirement and waste all their money on garbage rather than thinking about legacy.

 

Gen-X’s raised with very careless parents. There they were raised as kind of like a forgotten generation. They’re incredibly nihilistic and cynical because they were raised after the Boomers who had this great idealistic project that totally failed, and they perceived that. So Gen-X’s think it’s all bullshit! There’s nothing you can do to change the system. Just, you know, advance yourself as an individual as much as possible. Just make money and do what you got to do. There’s no higher purpose or meaning to society or life.

 

And so these are the two generations that are kind of running the show at the moment because they’re the ones with the wealth and the power and the influence. And they’re very individualistic for two kind of different reasons in terms of polarity.

 

But what the this generational theory predicts is that for Millennials, that we’re actually, … And by Millennials, they. Their cut-off point for Millennials is later than what’s most commonly understood. So older Zoomers are included in this.

 

[1:33:20]

 

Basically, if you’re an adult now, if you’re at least over the age of 21, you kind of fall in this category. For our generation, we’re a lot more collectivist because we were raised at a time of decline. Society has been declining. The generation that came before us were nihilistic. They didn’t really believe in anything.

 

And so we’re not really kind of reacting to a false idealism. Instead, we’re responding to a kind of society of excessive individualism, excessive nihilism, and instead have a kind of inclination to form for collective solutions rather than individualistic solutions. So where, like Gen-Xers say:

 

“Oh, well, you got no chance in changing the system. Just try and make money and be successful as an individual.”

 

Millennials tend to be more supportive of collective political solutions to our problems and say:

 

“Well, how can I as an individual succeed in a system like this?”

 

And so Millennials are far more predisposed to socialist economic policies, for example, and more collectivist political ideologies, whether it be on the Left or the Right, than previous generations.

 

So as we kind of ascend and become take over the system in the coming generational cycle, because we’ll become the older people that are actually in charge of the government and in charge of everything, basically, our values will start to get imposed on society and society will move in that direction.

 

So that’s another reason why I think the future of the Australian Right-wing is not going to be talking, it’s not going to be promoting conservative libertarian style policies around:

 

“We’ve got to cut taxes and we’ve got to reduce the national debt and people need to work harder!”

 

And all this kind of stuff. What’s going to motivate Millennials in the political space is redistributing wealth to our generation, giving us free stuff, giving us basically making up for the fact that wealth has been hoarded into the other generations, making up and kind of restructuring the economy. Collective solutions to individual problems rather than individual solutions to collective problems, which is predominant within Generation X. Like, Generation X thought that Fight Club was like the coolest movie ever, because Fight Club was all like:

 

“Society sucks, man! Let’s just go and like punch on in a garage and like blow buildings up and like have sex that’ll be awesome and get drunk.”

 

Whereas, like, they thought Nirvana was like the greatest band ever because they were like:

 

“Everything sucks!”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Whoa, that’s so deep!”

 

Whereas, like, Millennials are like, they don’t resonate with that kind of thing. Instead, Millennials are interested in, as I said, idealistic collective solutions, like, who is responsible on the collective level? How can we solve it on the collective level? Which makes sense why nationalism would resurge and socialism would resurge simultaneously within our generation.

 

So the future of Right-wing politics is a kind of nationalist Right-wing socialism. It’s not going to be small government, it’s not going to be doubling down individualism. Everyone is sick of individualism. Young people don’t want individualism. Young people don’t want to be told:

 

“Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, go talk to her!”

 

And all that kind of advice:

 

“Get it done!”

 

Blair Cottrell: The problem with individualism is you get too much of yourself under some sort of individualism or individualistic thought process system. You get too much of yourself and you get bored with it. You know we’ve had individualism, and look where it’s led individuals. Everyone’s on a plethora of script meds, sitting at home watching Netflix by themselves, paying off a mortgage by themselves, and just living in there in their honeycomb cell.

 

But I’ve got to bounce, man! I’ve got to bounce because I’ve got a really early start. I’ve got to get to bed.

 

Joel Davis: Can we do our four Superchats?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, if we’ve only got four, that’s fine. Yeah. Sorry, guys, if I’m sort of ending it abruptly, but I’m worried I won’t sleep tonight. And if I don’t sleep, I’m gonna have a really hard time tomorrow. I’ve got a bit of traveling to do tomorrow.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I was gonna get you to react to that Indian video, but fuck it! We’ll do it another time.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I already watched it. The guy on your channel saying that:

 

“Hey, we’re taking over everything and we’re gonna marry your sons and daughters.”

 

Or something like that.

 

Basically, he was almost boasting that he was going to end up with like, all the Indians are going to get everyone’s sloppy seconds:

 

“You’re all going to get divorced, and then your divorced wives are going to get with us!”

 

He goes:

 

“Every Indian guy I know is with someone who’s not Indian!”

 

And I’m thinking, that’s not my experience. Every Indian I know is with an Indian. Well, it’s usually Indian men walking around in-groups looking for some girl to sexually assault. [chuckling]

 

But, yeah, it’s just your take on it that you posted on Telegram was perfect when you said that basically, what the guy is relishing in is the fact that in his mind, White Australians are destined just to end up in the same ethnic situation that he’s in.

 

Joel Davis: Well, you’re downbred into the genetic slop that he is.

 

Blair Cottrell: I was trying to say, in a way, …

 

Joel Davis: That’s his, like, ideal revenge is that:

 

“Oh, yeah, you think we smell and you think we’re disgusting and you think we’re a slave cast of Uber drivers. Well, guess what your grandkids are going to be half Indian Uber drivers, too, and you’re going to be down here in the fucking muck with us!”

 

Blair Cottrell: And there is a real vengeance, there is a real revenge sentiment amongst some of the Indians nowadays, I’ve noticed, isn’t there? Or just people who are responding to any sort of White nationalist talking point on TikTok or something like that you can see in their eyes, hear in their voice and you know, in their words it’s quite obvious that’s like they want vengeance. They want vengeance that they’re not White! They’re irritated that they’re not White! They’re irritated that White people are realizing that they’re White, recognizing the significance of that and starting to talk about it.

 

And all of these people are vengeful as a result! Let’s like, they don’t want that to happen. Obviously, it’s an existential thing. They’re worried they’re going to be sent back to their own countries, maybe.

 

[1:40:00]

 

Joel Davis: I saw a thread on Twitter by this Indian who posted. He said:

 

“Joel Davis, who hates Indians, well, he’s Irish and the Irish aren’t even White!”

 

And he thinks that he, … Anyway, I’m not even Irish, by the way. Full disclosure, I’m Scottish and English mixed together. Yeah, he was saying that apparently I’m Irish and then posted one of these those old like physiognomy charts from like the early 20th century where it showed like how the Irish kind of looked like niggers and being like basically, just like it was funny.

 

But then like, you’re not even White, you’re Irish. It’s like you’re a fucking pajeet. Like, even if I was Irish, you’re a pajeet! Like their main insult is like:

 

“Yeah, well you’re also brown. Like, you’re also a piece of shit! Like we’re both pieces of shit together!”

 

It’s not even like elevating himself up. It’s just dragging you down. It’s like when homosexuals try to like insinuate that you don’t like them because you’re secretly gay. It’s like, would that be insulting? Would me being a homosexual be something that’s disgusting and gross? Well, actually, I agree! It would be disgusting and gross if I was a homosexual. Interesting that you say that.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve said it before. It’s hard to be offended by, it’s probably because you can’t say anything to a White guy to a reasonably well bred White guy, which I imagine. Well, I like to think that you and I are reasonably well bred White men. What can you say to us? Like that’s a racial slur that’s actually going to irritate us. What can you actually say? There’s nothing! What am I going to get offended by? What are you going to call me Casper or pasty or something? Like, okay, I’m fine with that. There’s just nothing that can be said that’s going to like, suddenly make me realise that I belong to an ethnic group that I despise or I’m trying to distract myself from. I’m not trying to distract myself from my ethnic identity. You can only get offended if you’re actually not proud of who you are. If someone’s like using a racial slur, that’s the only reason you could be offended.

 

But yeah, like you said, there’s always just efforts to drag you down with these people. Let’s move on though, because I’m getting to the point where like, I slept three hours last night. I don’t even know how I’m running, like, how I’m still awake for some reason. I’m still going.

 

But yeah, I’m on three hours and I’m only going to get five if I go to bed right now. So we need to get through these Superchats.

 

Joel Davis: Well How’s it Going, said:

 

“Are you guys aware of the Australian band called Black Magic SS? They lean heavy on National Socialist imagery and themes.”

 

I am aware of Black Magic SS. They’re a doom metal outfit. And yeah, I think they’re pretty cool! Have you heard of them?

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know. I’ve been to some gigs where bands like that have played. Are they Black Metal? I’m imagining they’re black.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, they’re not Black Metal. They’re like Doom Metal. They sound kind of like imagine if Black Sabbath was less pop sensible and kind of racist. More like mystique.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know if I’ve seen them. I don’t think I have. I’ve seen some Black Metal bands that are into that.

 

Joel Davis: Like, yeah, obviously there’s heaps of NS Black Metal bands, but yeah, no, they’re not Black Metal.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, let’s check them out.

 

Joel Davis: I think they’re Australian too, from memory

 

Blair Cottrell: Wiggle Do sends through $10. Thanks very much. He said:

 

“Lots of people want to be more racist than Hitler in NS circles. Where do you stand on Nuremberg Laws and mixed races? How do you draw the line between White and non-White?”

 

I think Joel’s mentioned this before in previous streams. It would come down to like organisational policy, I think, and different organisations would have different policies on that question. But I’m pretty sure the boys, Joel and the guys have their own policy on that, don’t you?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So it depends on the genetic distance. So like, if you have like trace amounts of like blood black, like African ancestry or Aboriginal ancestry. Less percentage of that can be tolerated relative to if you have like, I don’t know, like trace amounts of like Middle Eastern ancestry or Asiatic kind of ancestries because they’re less genetically different. So it’s dependent on the what the form of blood pollution, what percentage can be allowed. The Nuremberg Laws were primarily just about jews. And in my opinion they were if anything a little bit too lenient. So does that make me more racist than Hitler if I mean I’m Australian?

 

Rigo Weber said:

 

“Does the NSN have monetary incentives for White families to have more children? I think this should be a high priority for the NSN culture to develop, especially to replace all the mass deported.”

 

What do you mean? Do we within our own organisation pay people to breed? No! We don’t pay people to breed within the organisation. We do have so many people from, …

 

[1:45:14]

 

Blair Cottrell: What I can see there’s a lot of encouragement to breed.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Everyone’s having families. The reason why people aren’t having families is not so much about monetary incentives, it’s more about culture. If you have a culture that celebrates motherhood and you’re in a group of friends and associates where motherhood is valued and having children is valued, then the women pick up on that signal and go:

 

“You know what, I want to have kids too. I don’t want to be like some like sterile ageing, you know, wench, surrounded by all these fertile young women with all these babies hanging off their titties, you know, growing the next generation.”

 

So you know, if you develop a pronatalist culture, it kind of flows.

 

But in terms of like government policy, obviously when we put the political party together, one of our policies is going to be paying people to be carers for their own children. So like right now you have a situation where if you say you have a two year old, you’re a mother, you want to go back to work, the taxpayer, through the government, will give you a childcare rebate so the taxpayer will pay some Filipino immigrant to look after your kid in some child care facility surrounded by freaks and non-Whites and potentially pedos so that you can go and work because otherwise you wouldn’t be able to afford to work basically because you can’t even afford to pay child care costs for your own kid. That’s ridiculous!

 

But then if you’re a stay at home mom, you get nothing. It’s a completely perverse incentive. So what we’re going to do is reverse it and pay, fuck the child care rebate. If you want to go and work, you got to figure out who’s going to look after your kids if you can’t.

 

But if you’re going to look after your own kids, the society should pay you. We a collapsed birth rate, we need to have more White babies, we need to have more young Australian babies. And so we’ve got to make it economically viable for young families to have children.

 

So that’s going to be one of our signature policies. I think it’ll be very popular. I think women will like it. I think young men will like it too, because it takes the pressure off them too. If your missus is getting paid big money to raise your kids well, then raising a family on a single income becomes possible again. Say she’s getting 70, 80 grand a year from Centrelink and then you’re out making 100 grand a year or whatever. Now you’ve got a decent income so you can make a life for yourself.

 

Catenaria said:

 

“What are your thoughts on human rights? The right to life, liberty, security, freedom of speech, assembly and expression. Are they inherent and universal? Should they be protected?”

 

I don’t believe human rights exist. They are not inherent, they’re not universal, they’re social constructs. Should we construct them within our societies is a different question. I think within White societies, the maximum amount of freedom that can be apportioned to your population without compromising the security of your nation, should be afforded.

 

So I don’t think we should give freedom to communists, to traitor elements within the society, to, or definitely not to foreigners, alien foreign interests in our society, trying to subvert it and undermine it. But I think normal White people should have freedom of speech and assembly and expression. Absolutely!

 

So, yeah, but they’re social constructs, which means that there’s nothing universal inherent about them. They were dreamt up in the 20th century. No one ever thought they existed before then, because they don’t. They’re just phantasms of the mind. They’re ideological constructs, they have no metaphysical basis.

 

Blair Cottrell: Obviously, that’s true. But perhaps the essence of the question is, would you maintain any sort of semblance of human rights, like, let’s say you get everything you want and you’ve got a White ethno-state. Would you keep the concept of human rights, like, woven into Australian law, or would you?

 

Joel Davis: Not human rights. Not human rights. But I think having rights for the Australian people, specifically the White Australian People, they should have rights. We should guarantee their rights. But enemies of the nation and foreign alien interests should not have rights. Fuck you! Go create your own country somewhere else and get them to give you rights. Our government is responsible for securing the rights of our people, not anybody else. And we could make. And we could respect the rights of like all White people, let’s say with got cousin nations around the world and we can respect their rights and they would respect our rights and things like that. But it’s a construct, it’s a decision, it’s not an absolute!

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d be more concerned with conducting myself with dignity and strength rather than arbitrary concepts. Abstract concepts like rights to life, liberty, freedom of speech. These are all very, I don’t know, you’ve got to understand that when you have concepts like that that are available to everyone in a specific country, then that country becomes receptive to external threats, subversion. People are going to use those rights against you. They’re going to get into your country and they’re going to use that shit against you. So that’s a problem. There’s a bit to unpack there.

 

But this is the kind of thing that you sit around a table with some other very learnt people and you discuss where the boundaries, where you’re going to draw the line with stuff like this, and how you’re actually going to define your state form. Because I don’t like concepts like the ones that were enshrined into the basis of Australian democracy. You know, the ones I grew up with, as I explained earlier in the stream. Because they’re all bullshit! And they’re just used by enemies of our country to subvert and exploit our country and extract the wealth generated by the Labor in our country and send it overseas and you know, get up to all sorts of mischief in the process. To the extent where our children. The greatest thing our children contend with in public schools is:

 

“What gender am I?”

 

You know, all of this has been the result of freedom of expression and human rights and stuff like that. Right. That’s just opened the door for all manner of subversives to come into this country and work their bullshit magics. So like I don’t go for that kind of stuff. But I do believe in honour, dignity, being fair. I believe in harsh punishments, but fair punishments nonetheless. I believe in consequences, that kind of thing. But as I said, there’s a lot to unpack here, isn’t there?

 

[1:52:21]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, I also believe that thinking of rights only at the level of the individual is wrong. I think groups have rights if we’re going, … And I don’t think rights exist metaphysically. I think they’re constructs.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, they don’t! But that’s why I said you need to sit around a table and like, determine what the rights are.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! But I think groups need to have rights too. When we sit down and we say:

 

“Okay, well, individuals want to have rights.”

 

Okay, but groups need to have rights. So the nation needs to have rights too. The nation needs to be able to say:

 

“Well, this is what the nation needs in order to survive and to maintain itself. And those rights need to be respected.”

 

And in some respects they impair upon individual rights. So like I wouldn’t in a kind of, in the ethno-state, normal, healthy White people, if you want to marry another normal, normal, healthy member of the opposite sex, okay. I don’t think we should be like micromanaging that. I know there’s some eugenics spergs who think that, but I think that’s kind of really unromantic and inhumane. So okay, but then like, if you fall in love with like, I don’t know, an African woman. No! Like, we’re not going to allow that. That’s disgusting! Just like if you fall in love with your dog and you want to marry your dog. No, we’re not going to allow that either. That’s fucking disgusting!

 

Blair Cottrell: So I’m sure the African women aren’t akin to dogs? You’re talking about an actual animal versus a different, …

 

Joel Davis: Rather have a dog in my house, to be honest, than a fucking African woman.

 

Blair Cottrell: So. [chuckling] Yeah, what did you say before that? What was unromantic or inhumane? Oh, like you gave an example.

 

Joel Davis: Allowing free healthy White people to marry whatever member of the opposite sex they want to marry. I said:

 

“I think restricting that too much is inhumane, unromantic.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, so you’re a romantic?

 

Joel Davis: We had like eugenics doing the like, nerd calculations on the genetics and we’re like:

 

“Computer says you’ve got to like marry this person!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Well let’s create a scenario somewhere in the middle. Let’s say that a White guy wants to marry Arab woman.

 

Joel Davis: Well, no! Because you’re violating the rights of the White Australian nation to perpetuate itself. You’re poisoning the blood of our nation. It’s not about you.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re interfering with free will. And you got to understand when you ban something, you kind of make it in a taboo way more desirable to the darker nature of people. So you got to be careful with outright banning shit like that! You’ve got to discourage it and put social pressure on them.

 

Joel Davis: You know it used to be illegal in Australia, right. You know, miscegenation, like mixed race marriages used to be illegal.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right, right, I get that. But I think it would be more effective if, …

 

Joel Davis: Does everyone find it super desirable to, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Australian society right now, the way it is right now, and you just outright ban miscegenation now, I don’t know, I think you’d almost make it even more taboo. And you know when you tell a child don’t do something, you ban a child from like watching a certain TV show for example, that they kind of want to watch, then going to try harder to watch it.

 

Joel Davis: Well, you can do it, but you can move to their country and do it. I mean we want to kick them out of our country. So how are we going to let you bring in non-Whites into our country just because you want to marry them? If you want to marry them, you’re going to go to their country and marry them. But we’re not bringing in a bunch of Filipino wives into Australia and creating all these hapa franken children. Go to the Philippines if you want to.

 

Blair Cottrell: I get it. Again, at the very least, I don’t want to say illusion, but the idea of free will I think is still an important thing, because you need to show White people respect, they need to believe they have free will. I think a necessary amount of social pressure can be put on people.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but if you want rights, like if you want the nation to give you rights, you also have to respect the nation’s rights. So if you’re going to violate the nation with your rights, why should the nation continue to defend your rights? Doesn’t make any sense. It’s not reciprocal.

 

So like if you want to go in and like breed with foreign people that we deem collectively [words unclear] we’re going to expel you from the nation, you’re no longer an Australian. Take your passport and you can fuck off!

 

[1:56:39]

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. So you’re still giving the person the choice, but they have to relinquish the privileges that they’ve obtained by being Australian in order to violate the principles of the nation. I understand that. See, that’s fair. Yeah, I suppose I’m with you on that one. I just get a little bit, because I’ve always valued my own, my own autonomy.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but like the thing is White guys with Asian wives. So often I see a critic on the Internet of us and our ideology who seems like a normal White dude, and then you click on the profile and you see the Asian wife almost every time!

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you always click on the profiles of your critics to check their posting?

 

Joel Davis: On profiles all day? If I was always clicking on them I’d be doing it all day.

 

Blair Cottrell: [chuckling] Do you have any critics who you take seriously, though? Because most of the people who criticise you are not like serious critics. They’re just people that don’t like you for some reason. They don’t like something you said. Have you got any serious critics that you can, …

 

Joel Davis: They’re not really critics. I mean, I’ve had debates with people that I respect over the years who, where there are interesting debates on a particular issue. Like, I debated like the Russia, Ukraine thing with a lot of people, and I respect people that have different opinions on that issue or various other issues. I don’t think every issue is so cut and dry. And it’s interesting to hear out two positions on a lot of issues.

 

But then there’s when people are just kind of vitriolic and just hate you for emotional reasons, there’s nothing that interesting that they’re saying, you’re not really dealing with, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what I meant. Like, is there anyone who really stimulates Joel Davis, a critic that you consider to be roughly equal, who actually gets your brain moving, you enjoy actually arguing with them? Is there anyone like that?

 

Joel Davis: I haven’t found good, I used to have more people like that. But I haven’t found many good opponents lately.

 

I mean, I had a good little like, text debate with Keith Woods a few months ago. That was fun, where it was actually like a more substantive debate. But yeah, it’s hard to find good, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I sometimes wish I disagreed with. I sometimes wish I disagreed with you more on things so I could argue with you a little bit more. You would run rings around me usually.

 

But when I’ve had a good sleep and I’m in the right mood, I think we could have some really good mental clashes. I know that you kind of thrive on that kind of stuff too. I’ve noticed. Like, I watched last week’s stream with Ninja. I watched most of it and I thought to myself, next time Ninja comes on, he should try to contend with you on a few things or at least ask you to explain things further. Maybe challenge you once or twice, because I’ve noticed that that’s what really gets you going. You need that oppositional force to reckon with joel Davis: Yeah. I like debating. I like entertaining two sides. People are saying Drew Pavlou. I mean, I would go on Drew’s show if Drew wants to. I know he’s live streaming, like, every day now because he’s trying to stack Superchat coin. If he wants to get some views. Here’s one for you guys that are on Twitter. Go tell Drew Pavlou to extend the invite if he wants to have me on casual stream. We can debate things. We can discuss what’s going on in Australian culture.

 

Blair Cottrell: Drew, if you’re watching this. I don’t really know you that well. I don’t click on your profile. I’m not even allowed on Twitter. But it’s 100% a good idea. It was one of the most entertaining things I’ve ever watched. People into politics, they watched that debate that you did with Joel and thought it was really entertaining. I don’t think you could go wrong if you want to actually produce good content. I think you and Joel being in the room together again could be really good!

 

Joel Davis: Wouldn’t have to be in the room together. Like, we could just do like a Streamyard stream on his YouTube or whatever. But he’s streaming all the time and he’s just getting random people from Twitter on there. He’s getting guys that are like nationalists and stuff on there. He seems like he’s happy to talk to anyone.

 

So, yeah, someone clipped this. Drew, if you want to have a conversation, if you want to debate the issues of the day, discuss the issues of the day or whatever, a bit of content. I think it’ll get views, reach out, someone put us in touch. Let’s tee it up. I think it’d be interesting content. You know, I find Drew to be an interesting guy. He’s wrong about a lot of things, but he’s got a fun personality. I like his style. I find him to be a humourous interlocutor.

 

So let’s have a chat.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s got lot of mental energy. I’ll give him that. He’s got a lot of mental energy. He posts on X like, 40 times a day.

 

Joel Davis: People are saying that it froze up when I said that. Is it still frozen?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it is. That’s why I was laughing, because you’re like someone clipped this and it’s just like a blurry 144p.

 

[2:01:55]

 

Joel Davis: For fuck’s sake! I don’t know what’s going on with my Internet this evening.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look, man, we got to wrap it up. I gotta go. I’m sorry, guys. I’m having a good time!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, Modern World Reject said, he threw a big Roman. He said:

 

“Indian stink!”

 

That’s the last Superchat, so we’ll end the show there.

 

Also, someone in the chat said debate Mike Enoch. Well, if he wants to have a discussion, I’ve had him on before.

 

Blair Cottrell: If I heard that Mike Enoch talks some shit about, not talked some shit about you, but how to go at you for your take on Iran, Israel situation.

 

Joel Davis: I think that was vindicated. Yeah, my take, that was vindicated. So look, I haven’t actually listened to that podcast, but people told me that too.

 

If you want to have a discussion, Mike. Yeah, I’m a fair guy. I’m happy to listen to his point of view. We agree on a lot of things, on most things. So be a fun conversation. Click this. If I’m not frozen, send it to the TRS guys, happy to talk to Mike, but yeah, I’m an open minded guy. I’m a fair guy willing to debate and discuss the issues.

 

So let’s talk about it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Before we, before we finish up. We’ve got a question for you. Is boredom a problem for you? Because I’ve realised you get like, you just have a brain that moves all the time. It’s always ticking over. It seems to be that way. Do you ever feel bored or like you’re battling boredom? Is that an issue for you?

 

Joel Davis: Not really. Only if I’m like forcibly subjected to something which is boring. But if I’m free to do my own thing, I’m never bored.

 

Blair Cottrell: So if you’re on your own, if you’re like spending periods of time during the day by yourself, like you’re not the sort of person who needs to distract yourself or find lots of things to do or think about. Like, you’re always okay with your own company. You’re always fine sitting there with your own thoughts, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I just, I feel like I don’t get enough time to myself.

 

Blair Cottrell: But yeah, no, I can relate to that. Yeah, it’s actually a good sign. Yeah, I noticed a lot of fixed personalities are like that. Like they always want more time to themselves and they seem to benefit by spending time with themselves. And I definitely fall into that category. I feel like I fall into that category, too.

 

But anyway, thanks for joining us, guys. We’ll see you guys next week, I guess. I’ve got a big weekend, so take care. Anything else, Joel, before we finish?

 

Joel Davis: No, just White power! Hail victory! Blood and honour! We’ll see you all next time.

 

Blair Cottrell: See you later, guys.

 

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BeamRider101
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Foreign operatives paying criminals to stage hoax terrorism, to then get our speech laws changed, then the people in government changing those laws, failing to show up at the inquiry, is outrageous, normally it’d be instant dismissal and total overhaul of the government, but they appear to be getting away with it again.
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BradC1988
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Ban black cunts, not knives in Australia.
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JFK was a real American
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The First Catholic POTUS
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RoseRock444
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Disgusting
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leibekohne
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China was created by jew with stolen intellectual properties just to create today’s war situation. All is pre-planned as covid was to murder legally especially young American solders, but to depopulate and destroy world usurious economy. Traitor Tramp is jewish puppet bitch. This all proofs that nothing would be changed through jew voting scum and evil democracy.
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SSlieutenant
22 hours ago
Canada does the same thing, calling a homosexual a f-g is a $10,000 fine or jailtime.
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Did China turn on the jews under Ci Jinping?
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mharrison52
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seeing us congressman calling for war with China, id say there’s a good chance. china is close to being nat soc if you really think about it.
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Now it the time to register Party and nail jew for good to the coffin once and for all.
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Motown88
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When Whites become a minority in AU there won’t be any special privilege for minorities like there is now… In fact, persecution will go into full blown legal discrimination. South Africa is the canary in the coal mine.
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blurryish
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24:05 Blair that was fucking hilarious
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I was laughing so hard at this my sides hurt
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hey guys
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what time u starting u cants?
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good enough guys
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LFG crew. ORG keep up with the conversation. Like share chalk.
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SSlieutenant
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First 25 minutes of the show: Eldridge Colby policy William Colby his grandfather was head of CIA Anglo Americans, CIA was an Anglo organization but was couped by jews during WW2 and after JFK 1963/ replaced under LBJ Eldridge was in 1st Trump Admin and told them that China must be focused on at all costs or America will fall. His policy is intuitive, Netanyahu violated this policy by striking Iran. China is top supplier to Iran. Netanyahu is greedy and wants greater israel and cannot accept backseat. Iran is stronger than israel, and Net wants to sack US to defeat Iran. US public does not support this war. Not to mention Israel trade relationship with China.
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Your description of Gen X is lacking in understanding and knowledge… Probably has a lot to do with your millennial sense of entitlement.
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Doom Nebulae
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Why the fuck would you go fight China on behalf of ZOG?! This is beyond stupid.

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GenuineGoy
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Mike Enoch is obviously jewish in his physical appearance, and it’s confirmed by his jewish ex wife.

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King Tut
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fuck Mike Enoch! every time he opens his mouth, all I hear is verbal diahreah. he is the reason why I could never get into TRS.

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Cone of Silence
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If you would like to broaden your purview on just how long, the US and us by proxy, have been subverted by Israel, the watch the last 2 episodes from Blackpilled.com

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Reclaim
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some indian guy came to my office once and kept trying to show me his fancy watch and I was like dude, I really don’t care about such things.

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GenuineGoy
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Mike peinovich is jewish.

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@EverybodywakeUp
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Blair hit it on the head with boomers, my mum is a boomer and she works so hard. Since she was 16, she can’t not work and always wants to be busy.

King Tut
5 hours ago
Jews aren’t just overplaying the holohoax card, but the “Nazi” card. recently at a US Senate hearing Kristi Noem and Ice were compared to “Nazis hunting down Jews” by some Jew or shabbos goy. it was pathetic! they basically saying you aren’t allowed to deport invaders who broke our laws and came to US illegally because if you do, you’re a “Nazi”.

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china will take Taiwan without a shot. They have been infiltrating it for years and putting their own people in place

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@CloudWhine
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Also, you mentioned there being ZERO evidence that Trump is a Russian Agent. I am not saying he is or isn’t, go watch the documentaries The Dubious Friends Of Donald Trump and Active Measures. Trumps deep financial ties to Russian crime and even Soviet actors goes back to the 80s and his close ties to Russian mob are undeniable. So, please review that information and revise your position. This is embarrassing.

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Your take on Taiwan is painfully misinformed. It is as if you are getting your information from people like McGregor and Ritter, two literal Russian sycophants. The COMMUNISTS didn’t fight alongside the Chinese Nationalists in ww2, they fled to the mountains, and when the war was over and the nationalists were beleaguered, they came down and took over. Taiwan was NEVER NEVER NEVER Part of the the CCP. Fuck China, Fuck Duginist multipolarity. Dugin is Anti White and Anti West, and youd know that if you actually listened to his long format interviews. He and Putin say their commitment to multiculturalism often. Let me guess, 4D chess? They have to say it? Forgive me if Im wrong and you know that he is a multiculturalist. Real reform looks like taking back our countries, not destroying them so 1 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians can take over, and we get raped and killed in the aftermath. There is ZERO chance that have a Renaissance if we fall into disrepair. Our planned genocide is on the table, and will happen the second we become a punching bag for the world. Honestly, go get your information about taiwan from other sources than RT stooges or American politicians on the take from China.

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GenuineGoy
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have a good day everyone

@sparkofspirit
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thanks guys o/

Rebbe Schneerson
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He admitted it himself

Rebbe Schneerson
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Walther Mauser
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Yep, Nature is racist. It is only natural.

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Best show of the week coming up boys

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: I am White. I want to continue existing. I want my race to continue existing and I want it to flourish, actually.

 

I’m not engaging in politics because I like politics. I fucking hate politics! I’m engaging in politics because I’m a racist!

 

Thomas Sewell: And what our mission is here until the end of time is to secure the existence of our people.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, to me, racism is just instinct and everything, everyone is racist!

 

Thomas Sewell: I give you this again, blood and honour! Blood and honour! Blood and honour!

 

[End Intro Video]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, there was a little intro that a friend of the show made. He goes by the White Australia Policy on Twitter. So go follow the White Australia Policy on Twitter. He does a lot of clips. He clips us a lot and great account. So go give him a follow.

 

Yeah, it is the 4th of July, 2024. And a lot’s been happening in world politics, in Australian politics. For once, things that are actually interesting have been happening this week. And also things that are interesting have been happening to us.

 

The Tom Sewell, Elijah Schaeffer interview finally came out. There was an article written about us in The Australian. There’s an election today in Britain. It’ll be interesting to see how that goes. We’ll probably talk about that a little bit. Apparently it seems like Joe Biden is going to drop out of the presidential race. We could discuss that, perhaps, but also, yeah, there’s a big news story about Muslims breaking away from the Labor Party to create their own party.

 

Yeah, a lot to discuss this evening. A lot to get into. Blair and I had a few other things we wanted to discuss actually, as well. We were talking about at the gym last night.

 

So yeah, we’re going to try and fit, fit it all into 2 hours. Tom will be with us shortly. But how you doing this evening, Blair?

 

Blair Cottrell: Crazy hair day. I’m having a crazy hair day! So sorry about this is the best I can do. There was an article about us too. Did you mention that? In The Australian, down here in Australia?

 

Joel Davis: I did.

 

Blair Cottrell: Where we’re all in an article, we’re in the news again for the opinions that we hold, which is pretty standard,

 

Joel Davis: But we’ll definitely analyze it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I think I want to get into it a little bit. I don’t want to give it too much oxygen, but it’s a bit disappointing that that style of journalism still exists. I suppose I’m not surprised that it still exists because the regime hasn’t changed.

 

But you know, journalism, when it comes from the establishment, the established media, it’s not really journalism, it’s propaganda. It’s designed to., … Well, it’s supposed to create a certain feeling or attitude in people, but it’s failed to even do that. This article that came out about us. And we will get into it more as we approach that topic. I’ll save what I have to say on it for when we get to that actual subject matter. Because I’ve got some good insights.

 

Joel Davis: Well, do you want to maybe talk about it first? Because we’re already on. I’ll pull it up here. I’ll pull up.

 

So it’s in The Australian. And for those who don’t know, maybe some foreigners watching the show, The Australian is one of the biggest newspapers in Australia. It is the only national newspaper. All the other newspapers are specific to a particular city or state, but The Australian is printed and sold all over the country. It is the flagship newspaper of News Corporation. You know, the Murdochs. You know, them as the people who own Fox News, probably most famously, but they also own Sky News in Australia and they own all the conservative media, basically, in Britain, Australia and the United States. And they are arch neocons.

 

Blair Cottrell: The media machine Leftists always accuse them of being like a pro-Right-wing and White supremacist? The Murdoch media, isn’t that them?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, they are neoconservatives. They differ from the progressives. They do defend the Liberal Party and they love Israel.

 

So this is basically like Sky News in a newspaper, more or less, although Sky News is maybe even a little bit more to the right of The Australian. They keep it, they play it very straight.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look at the opening sort of footnote here:

 

“Australia’s neo-Nazis have been posing with portraits of Hitler and swastikas and calling jewish people sewer rats as security experts warn of their continuing threat after October 7.”

 

I suppose there’s a bit of context to add there. Like who called jewish people “sewer rats”? Wasn’t that in reference to underneath New York City when they were found to actually be burrowing and doing some sort of construction or digging work in the sewers of New York? I’m pretty sure that comment was made in reference to that news story. Am I wrong?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I mean, actually, now that you mentioned that’s good memory, because I didn’t even think of that. I was like:

 

“Well, maybe I did call them sewer rats at some point?”

 

I don’t really remember doing that. It doesn’t sound like something that I would say necessarily. But sure, whatever! I mean, agree with the phrase, why not?

 

Blair Cottrell: But there’s important content.

 

Joel Davis: They took it out of context. Yeah, they took it out of context. Like, we were talking about the infamous jew tunnels that they found underneath New York. When was that story? Was it last year?

 

[06:08]

 

Blair Cottrell: It was like, it was like six months ago, maybe. And I remember, some guys tweet. It was like a comparison of one guy’s tweet before the jewish tunnels underneath New York synagogue and around the synagogue were discovered.

 

And then afterwards, before he was tweeting about it on X, saying:

 

“I swear to God, there’s jews underneath my floorboards! I can hear people having conversations in Yiddish all throughout the night. And I think they’re digging. I’m not sure what they’re doing. Someone needs to look into this!”

 

And then after it all got exposed, he was like:

 

“I told you I’m not crazy!”

 

So this guy could hear them underneath his house. I just remember that, about that story really standing out as pretty amusing.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, that was a pretty funny time. I remember we were memeing it at the time, so in that context, calling them sewer rats would have made sense.

 

But anyway, yeah, so what? Like, I’m obviously anti-semitic. So:

 

“Oh, they’ve taken me out of context saying something anti-semitic!”

 

Like, you don’t have to take me out of context. You can just put me in context. And there’s plenty of things for you to [chuckling] write an article about. You know what I mean?

 

Blair Cottrell: But the thing is if they add the context, it makes more sense.

 

And that’s what I want to put in there or put out there before you start going through this article, this is a really confusing article! It doesn’t make a lot of sense. There’s stuff in there that will make sense, but the information is kind of all over the place. And the statements that they’ve put in there from Joel, Tom, and myself, they’re put in there without context, and they’re kind of random.

 

Like, my dad read this article. This was printed in The Australian newspaper, which my dad still buys. And he was really confused by the article. He’s like, after reading it:

 

“I just felt stupider! I felt like I knew less than I knew before. Its like, what did I just read? I didn’t get any information about what’s actually happening with the rise of the far-Right, so to speak.”

 

So my dad was confused. I didn’t even read it yet, to be honest.

 

So this will be the first time I’ve actually scanned it. I read some of that.

 

Joel Davis: Really bad journalism. Because it had no real, like, point or story. It was just like a whole bunch of random quotes and facts, like, loosely connected.

 

Anyway, there’s the picture. They put the picture that I posted. We did Hitler’s birthday in Adelaide. We went over to Adelaide, hung out with some of the boys over there. We did Hitler’s birthday at a German restaurant. And, yeah, we’re cutting our little cake there.

 

And I put a picture of me and Tom on the day, just. And it says here:

 

“NSN leader Thomas Sewel with Joel Davis cutting a swastika cake at a birthday party for Adolf Hitler on April 20!”

 

Cukg

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, [chuckling] you’re cutting a cake. Who cares? Oh, there’s a swastika on the cake.

 

Joel Davis: Technically, Thomas not leader of NSN. This is actually factually incorrect. Jacob Hersant is the leader of the NSN. Thomas Sewell is the leader of the EAM, European Australian Movement.

 

So, I mean, there you go. That’s false. Anyway:

 

“On April 20, members from Australia’s neo-Nazi network broke bread and shared drinks at a German pub in Victoria around a table decorated with frame photographs of Adolf Hitler.”

 

Well, again, German pub in Victoria. Incorrect. Is actually in South Australia.

 

So again, more poor journalism.

 

Blair Cottrell: Really poor.

 

Joel Davis: And also, “neo-Nazi network”. What does that even mean? It says here:

 

“Emerging figure Joel Davis, whose social media reach has skyrocketed since October 7, as has his anti-semitism!”

 

So they’re basically implying that before October 7, I wasn’t really talking about the jews or Israel or anything. And then I just exploited the Israeli invasion of Gaza, even though I barely talk about it. And if anything, I’ve said less anti-jewish stuff since October 7 than before. Like, my anti-semitism has, … I don’t give a shit about Palestine! My anti-semitism has not actually increased. I actually become annoyed at, like, how much, … I got annoyed at how much people were fixating upon Palestine at the time and was saying:

 

“Hey, how about we talk more about White people and less about Palestinians?”

 

Blair Cottrell: So for average IQ grugs like me, October 7 is when Israel invaded Gaza or when the war started over there. Is that right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that was last. No, I think October 7 might have been when, … Because there was that Palestinian the Hamas attack on some rave party with a bunch of jews at it near the border. And then I think that might have been October 7.

 

But anyway, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, how’s it feel? How’s it feel to be an emerging figure, Joel Davis?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I mean, it’s good to be “emerging”. I’m going in the right direction, apparently.

 

Blair Cottrell: I [chuckling] think you’ve, …

 

Joel Davis: Well, actually not arrived yet. Like, so basically what he, what he’s prophesying is that I’m going to get bigger and more successful. I’m just only emerging.

 

So, I mean, that’s a compliment!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. I think he’s kind of signaling to relevant intelligence agencies there:

 

“Hey, do something about this guy, because he’s going to continue growing unless you do.”

 

I think that’s the kind of point of this article, in my opinion. We’ll keep reading through it and see what this guy’s.

 

Joel Davis: I’m just going to. I’ll enjoy the compliment:

 

“Seated nearby were rising figures in the movement, Michael Nelson and Nathan Bull, both active National Socialist network members, and Tim Lutz, who an extremism expert, called their, quote, ‘key violent Right-wing actor’.”

 

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Blair Cottrell: Right. No, no mention of the fact that he just got his car bombed on Christmas Eve outside his house and the police just did nothing about it. We’ll just reference Tim as a violent man. It’s violent terrorism that’s being dealt to him for his beliefs.

 

Joel Davis: Tim is skillful at violence in the sense that he’s a great boxer, but, like, he only boxes people who step into the room with him voluntarily.

 

So basically, he just beats up nazis all day! Because that’s the only [chuckling] people that train with him! Tim is the ultimate Nazi puncher, and then he got his car blown up by communists.

 

And apparently he’s a key violent Right-wing actor.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. [chuckling] He did nothing about it. He didn’t respond by being violent.

 

I mean, if someone exploded my car, I’d be trying to find who did it and, like, deal my own version of justice to them. That’s just me personally. But Tim’s a violent guy? He didn’t react that way. In my experience. Tim’s pretty kind, sensible sort of man. Yeah. He’s a fight trainer.

 

But I don’t know, isn’t the point in learning how to fight so you don’t really have to, and if you do have to, then you don’t really have much of a chance of being hurt. I don’t know. Let’s continue.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think Tim is under a lot of police surveillance and he’s a political activist, and so he probably made the right decision not to retaliate, as difficult as that would be in that situation.

 

Anyway, he’s just talking about how he did a little Hitler birthday party.

 

Anyway, it says here:

 

“Since the onset of the Israel Hamas war on October 7, their influence, reach and following has grown concurrent with hardening anti-semitic rhetoric!”

 

Have you, have we really been talking about the Israel Hamas war, Blair? Like, Blair didn’t even know what October 7 was [chuckling] apparently on the show, which they’re referring to.

 

Blair Cottrell: It hasn’t been a huge talking point, to be honest. Like, it’s all over mainstream news.

 

And although it’s on mainstream news.

 

Joel Davis: I talked about it when it first happened because it was topical.

 

But, yeah, it’s kind of funny. This article, what’s interesting about is that they focus more upon our anti-semitism, but they don’t really talk about our racism.

 

And that’s how like, this is a this is like a neocon, you know, jewish Liberal Party angle.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s an imagined reality. You know, like most mainstream media articles, it represents an imagined reality that the journalist wants to exist.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this article is written to try and make conservatives who like Israel and jews, you know, get them upset, basically, that’s what this article is about. And to justify using the state to censor us or to just delegitimize us in general.

 

It says here:

 

“Davis, whose anti-semitic vitriol is the most extreme.”

 

So there you go. I got the most extreme anti-semitic vitriol. That’s pretty good:

 

“Has seen his followers increase by almost 1000% since October 7. His Rumble page, where he hosts a podcast with extremist Blair Cottrell, shot from 297 followers in the weeks before October 7 to about 3, 300.”

 

Well, here’s the other thing. We were on YouTube, and my YouTube got banned, like, around the time I think it might have been in September. So my YouTube got banned just before October 7.

 

And so then we moved to Rumble. That’s why my Rumble. I wasn’t really using Rumble before. I barely set it up.

 

So that’s why my followers have increased. [chuckling] Got nothing to do with fucking October 7 and the Israel war! Like, it’s so stupid! It says here:

 

“On X where Davis is one of the few leading figures not to have had his account suspended. His followers have doubled, from 11,000 in September to more than 25,000.”

 

And again, part of the reason why was because I was banned until Elon Musk brought me back last year.

 

And so I’ve been able to grow now organically. But only got my account back, like, last May or something.

 

So, it’s got nothing to do with fucking Israel! Anyway. It says here:

 

“Experts said Right-wing extremism has been on the rise and remained a threat and came after Sewell led a neo-Nazi rally in Sydney on Australia Day.”

 

Well, what was the threat? We went to go march in Sydney and apparently that’s a threat! Like they’re accusing us of plotting terrorism or something because we got on a train and sang a song and we’re going to march around with Australian flags. That’s terrorism?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, there’s no threat there! I don’t know what they’re implying. The guys tried to hold a rally, I think, in support of Australia Day. Imagine that! Being an Australian and wanting to support your national holiday, and being told you’re not allowed to by the police because you didn’t have the Right views and opinions. That’s what happened to the guys on that day. And there was no threat there. The only real threat was against those guys who were trying to demonstrate on that day. And the threat was from the police.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, we were basically held, were detained inside a train for like 4 hours. Yeah. And then hounded, basically harassed by police for an entire weekend. And it says here:

 

“The Counter Extremism Project warned key figures needed to be monitored more closely.”

 

By the way, this Counter Extremism Project is not an Australian organisation. It’s an organisation that was founded in the United States by members of the American or ex-members of the American Congress. It’s not even an Australian organisation. It’s run by, as I said, it’s basically a cutout of the American Deep State and the American government.

 

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