Blair Cottrell: Last night I got a phone call, or a series of phone calls from Joel, our friend Joel Davis.

 

 

And this is the first time Joel’s been able to ring me since he was arrested* [on Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at Bondi beach], I think two months ago, maybe over two months ago. I have to check the dates. It feels like it’s been ages since he was arrested.

 

[* See: “They want to make it illegal to be anti-immigration” https://www.noticer.news/illegal-oppose-immigration-Australia/]

 

 

But he’s been held in Long Bay Jail in a punishment ward, in a cell without a shower, or a TV. Some days he doesn’t get to shower. They basically decide when he showers, taking him from his cell into a different block where there are showers.

 

 

 

You see, Joel has been classified by the prison system as a “national security threat” or risk. I don’t know if they use the term risk or threat, but he’s a national security threat. And what that means is he basically doesn’t have any rights. He doesn’t have the right to any books. He doesn’t have the right to see a priest, a chaplain, inside the prison. He doesn’t have the right to anything. He just sits there. He doesn’t even have a Bible, guys! They won’t give him a Bible.

 

If you’re just like landing on this story now and you don’t know the details, Joel made a social media post criticising a politician or directing people to criticise a politician*.

 

[* “Patriots – I bid thee to rhetorically rape Allegra Spender.” See: Nationalist activist charged over Telegram post and refused bail https://www.noticer.news/joel-davis-arrested-sydney-telegram-post/]

 

 

That’s why he was arrested. That’s why he’s in jail. So no Bible, no shower, he doesn’t get any yard time. He hasn’t seen the sun in well over a month, he said. And he doesn’t have the right to complain because of his classification as a national security threat. I’ve never really heard of a situation like that before, especially not for somebody accused of a crime that’s really not that serious.

 

And Joel’s just the first person they’re hitting with this. They’re going to send a lot of people to jail for comments that they’ve made online in Australia. This is just the start. And what they want to normalise here, what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to create a whole new threshold of crime called “hate crime”. And hate crime or hate criminals will experience similar consequences legally to actual terrorists!

 

So what does this mean for our country? What does this mean for Australia and our future? Well, this is bad for everybody, guys, because this is all a new precedent! This hasn’t happened to anybody in Australia for ideological reasons before. No one has been thrown in jail, declared a national security risk, denied books, denied showers, denied access to basic human rights because of a social media post. This has never happened before in Australia’s history. And it’s bad for everybody!

 

It’s bad if you’re a university student, it’s bad if you’re a bricklayer. If they can do this to Joel Davis, they can do it to you as well. They can do it to anybody who’s saying anything on social media that they don’t like.

 

But that’s what this new “hate speech” and “hate crime” stuff is going to be about. They’ll be throwing people in jail who are critical of the government and its (((lobbyists))), combating “anti-semitism”, combating “hate”, combating so-called “far-Right extremism”. This will all just be the excuse the government uses to arrest people and throw them in jail for having the wrong opinion.

 

And Joel Davis is the exemplary case demonstrating that Joel Davis is the first of hundreds of political prisoners. Future police work won’t really be about catching criminals. It’ll be about sitting in an office, trawling social media, working out who is criticising the government most effectively, who’s getting popular doing it, throw them in jail! It’s like Australia is competing against England and European, Western European nations for who can be the gayest communist country in the world! And this is how it’s going to be for Australians in the future.

 

And this is what happens when you disengage from politics and live in your own fucking bubble! This is what happens when you just sit around watching football and eating chips! And you might think to yourself:

 

“Well, I’m not as vocal as Joel Davis was and I’m not as opinionated as Joel Davis was so I’ll be fine, they’ll leave me alone.”

 

Maybe you’ll be left alone for six months, maybe a year. But eventually something you write on the Internet, something you say to a colleague at work, something is going to bring the police down on you.

 

So Joel, he’s been held in pretty poor conditions. He’s a national security threat according to the jail and the political system. He doesn’t even have a Bible. He doesn’t have access to a shower. He doesn’t get to shower on some days. He doesn’t have any sunlight or any yard where he can actually go out into natural light. But despite all that, he’s in good spirits and he’s confident that he will be released within the next month or two.

 

And I have to say that I feel a sense of pride. I feel proud that he’s my mate because he’s making the most of a bad situation. He’s not letting it get him down. He doesn’t seem to be upset at all! Even though I might not always see eye to eye with him on everything, I think it’s awesome that regardless of the consequences, he stood up for what he believed in. And, yeah, I’m proud that he’s my mate.

 

So you guys will hear from Joel soon enough, and I’ll keep you updated. I’m pretty sure a fundraiser will be launched. A new fundraiser to try to support Joel with his legal expenses will be launched pretty soon. I’ll share that when it’s available. It’ll probably get taken down by payment processes and stuff, but I’m sure the guys supporting Joel will work out a strategy where it can stay up somehow by creating a legal trust fund or something.

 

That’s the update, guys, and that’s my take on the whole matter. And that’s where we’re at in Australia. That’s our country right now!

 

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: We are live. It is the 17th of July, 2025. We had some bizarre technical nonsense going on for some reason, but we got the stream happening. We’re here we have Tom back. First time since Australia Day. We’ve got three of us back together. He’s finally off the ridiculous bail conditions. The South Australian police finally dropped the ridiculous charge of loitering from Australia Day, which I’m sure a lot of you are familiar with the events of that day. But it’s good to have you back, Tom.

 

How do you feel? I mean, I feel personally vindicated. I felt vindicated already considering all the other charges that were dropped. But this really cements the vindication that not just that we didn’t do anything wrong, we knew we didn’t do anything wrong, but that we made the right decision on the day to expose the tyranny. People were saying:

 

“Oh, how does going to jail, going to save the White race?”

 

Well, guess what, we’re not going to jail. Not for this anyway. [chuckling] Jury’s still out whether we go to jail for some other reason, but not for this.

 

So how are you feeling?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think vindicated is the right word. It is a victory in the sense that we have shown the Australian people that through strength and persistence and resilience, we can get our message across. We can suffer without being humiliated.

 

And I think that’s important that Australians need to hear that. Currently we’re being humiliated as a people. The White Australian population is being obviously replaced and it is being humiliated while it’s being replaced. And if we stand up against this tyranny, they will make us suffer.

 

And I think through our strength, we’ve made it clear that suffering is more valuable than just living a peaceful life that’s ultimately humiliating.

 

So that’s how I feel strength. I feel strong. I feel that our strength and our resilience has proven us right.

 

Joel Davis: That’s a good point because you are naturally adapting to the kind of harassment tactics used to try to prevent you guys from doing what you’re trying to do, whether it’s activism or building the political party. And you do seem to have done or made a great deal of progress in the realm of adaptation. Because I’ll make the point, this basically panned out exactly as you said it would. You said you’re going to cop a beating on the day. You predicted there would be bullshit charges that wouldn’t stick and that have to drop eventually. And now that’s exactly what happened.

 

So not only are you adapting in terms of strategy, but you now know what to expect. As though the system has basically used all its cards and they can only keep doing the same thing they’ve always done. And you keep getting better at dealing with it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And so much has changed for our organisation in terms of support from the public over the last six months. And I mean, what’s been really incredible is, and I don’t want this taken the wrong way, but we have had a lot of people that are former members of the Liberal Party reach out to us and say that one of the reasons why they have left the party and have started to donate to our cause and started to support our cause is because they can see, based off the election and the Liberal Party moving further to the Left and based off how we were treated by the system in Adelaide, which is, I think it’s a pretty strong liberal kind of state. I mean, Adelaide’s pretty churchy and has a lot of Christians in it and it’s got quite a conservative movement.

 

But this is how, you know, probably one of the more conservative states in the country, other than, I guess, Queensland. This is how they treat political dissidents on the Right. And that for them was the straw that broke the camel’s back. And their reason for supporting us going forward.

 

So it’s interesting that even in persecution, you can gain support and a following and assistance from people that have spent their whole life in mainstream politics. So I didn’t expect that. I didn’t predict that. I did predict that the Australian public in general would be more supportive of us, but I didn’t expect so many people would be jumping ship from the previous conservative faction of the Liberal Party.

 

The last thing I heard from our insiders within the Liberal Party is that about 50% of the members have left in the last two years.

 

And I’m not saying all of those have jumped across to us, but a significant portion of particular branches and seats have come across to show their support for us. So that’s good to see.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a big number.

 

Joel Davis: It’s a good moment actually. I will say join the movement! Join the prospective political party White Australia.org. I do a bad job of remembering to shill this every week, so I’m just going to say it now while I’m thinking of it. If you’re in Australia, I put out a poll on Twitter a few days. Sorry, on Telegram a few days ago. The poll was, if you’re a White nationalist, how many times have you met up with other White Nationalists, at least one other White nationalist in real life this year to discuss politics or do anything political?

 

Very low bar. 57% of respondents said zero times. That’s crazy! So, like more than half of the Joel Davis spurg Telegram following can’t even meet up once with one White nationalist in real life since the beginning of this year. So I understand a lot of my followers are in other countries and whatever. But that’s a horrible statistic!

 

So if that’s you and you live in Australia, you have no excuse, like our country is being stolen from us. White Australia.org, sign up as a supporter. Maybe you don’t want to come and march in the street dressed in black and you know, get arrested, but you can at the very least join up as a supporter and help us found a political party to represent you and your beliefs, which obviously, if you’re watching this, unless you’re one of the assigned police officers or intelligence agents or journalists watching this, you share our beliefs.

 

So who else is going to represent them? No one except us! So sign up White Australia.org. Be part of the solution!

 

[06:43]

 

Blair Cottrell: Tom, what happened in your latest court appearance and what does that mean for you going forward?

 

Thomas Sewell: So today we had, I think, the third or fourth case conference, which is where the prosecution says they’re not ready to go to trial and they want to have a little bit more time to prepare. And they dragged us out for as many as they could, as many case conferences as they could, until eventually they had to drop the charges. Today the last charge I had was the loitering charge, which was the alleged reason for my arrest outside the Anzac Memorial in Adelaide on, I think it’s called North Terrace. I think the street, very beautiful part of Adelaide. We picked that area on purpose because of how beautiful it was.

 

And obviously I was arrested as I began giving a speech about how the South Australian police are corrupt and are serving traitor politicians.

 

So the whole purpose, the whole meaning or reason for the arrest was dropped and that was done very quickly. And then, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Was that the primary purpose for the arrest? Loitering? Is that what they tried to sell?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And then when I was arrested and taken back to the police station for allegedly loitering, they said that I’m being charged with loitering, resisting arrest and Nazi symbols.

 

And then when I got my paperwork, it just had loitering and Nazi symbols.

 

And then about six weeks ago, the Nazi symbols charge got dropped, which was the Union Jack and NSN patch on our shoulders.

 

And then obviously today they dropped loitering. But they put on a new charge today, which they hadn’t sent any information about to the magistrate or to my lawyer. And they have charged me with breaching the bail conditions for the loitering charge.

 

So I was under non-Association for loitering. And they’re saying, they’re suggesting, they’re alleging that I breached at some point over the last six months, I associated, they’re alleging, with people in our community.

 

So they’ve dropped the bail conditions because they were attached to the loitering. But there is another court date again for breach of bail.

 

Blair Cottrell: So they’re accusing you of breaching bail on a charge that they’ve dropped?

 

Thomas Sewell: Correct. And I asked the judge that question. I said:

 

“How can someone be charged with breaching bail conditions that were put on me that have now been dropped? Like if I didn’t commit the crime, why was the bail conditions even put on me? And therefore, how could I be charged breaching bail conditions that are put on me falsely?”

 

Blair Cottrell: It would make sense that the conditions imposed during the bail period are now void because it’s been found that there was no evidence to uphold the original charge in the first place.

 

Thomas Sewell: That would make sense, wouldn’t it? That’s common sense. But that’s not, unfortunately, how the magistrate saw it.

 

And instead of answering my question, he instead told me that I was being represented and wasn’t allowed to talk. And I told him to:

 

“Answer my question, buddy!”

 

Blair Cottrell: He wouldn’t have liked that!

 

Thomas Sewell: Because these people don’t deserve any respect. They are absolutely disgusting, corrupt thugs, that think that they can lock Australians up for, in the case of Stephen Wells, 4 months, over 100 days in solitary confinement for charges that were dropped. And they think that they deserve some sort of respect or honour for their disgusting, corrupt behaviour! It’s absolutely putrid! The Australian people should be, it’s absolutely abhorrent what the political class, what the ruling class are putting Australians through.

 

And when I called him, “buddy”, he threatened to have me removed from the call. And I just said:

 

“Okay, well then remove me. Like, you’re nothing, but you’re all corrupt, basically. And I want the record to show that you’re all corrupt.”

 

And then they just booted me from my own court case.

 

So they could have just put me on mute, but instead they just booted me for my own court case.

 

So that’s pretty funny. But they’re just disgusting! I hate them! I absolutely hate them! They’re absolutely disgusting! The prosecutors are professional liars! They put so many good men in prison over nothing. Over nothing! And all the charges have been dropped, except I think Joel’s belt, his [eagle] belt buckle, and one other guy still hasn’t had his loitering charge dropped yet.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, before you ask your question, Joel, if they are so corrupt, I’m assuming you mean the magistrate is corrupt as well?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, all of them. The original magistrate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, why participate in the process? Like, have you got a plan? What’s the end goal? If they’re so corrupt, like, why answer their summons?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, if you don’t, you eventually get shot!

 

So I’m not looking to get shot at this stage by the police. Ultimately, you have to play the game. You have to abide by the law at all times, only break it to seize power. I think that was Julius Caesar that said that. He also said, Julius Caesar said:

 

“We must endure pain with patience!”

 

And I feel that every day we have to endure this pain with patience. And we’ve been doing that for some time now. And we’re going to keep enduring pain until we take power. And when we take power, then we’ll reassess the laws.

 

[12:11]

 

Blair Cottrell: I can imagine you’re probably holding out for maybe some High Court judges that maybe aren’t corrupt, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, that’s a separate issue. So what we are looking to do is bundle all this stuff together with our High Court case, which I think you and Joel have covered a fair bit on the stream. I won’t go into too much detail, but, yes, we are still following through with two plans. One, appealing all the current criminal charges against us regarding Nazi symbols and gestures and any sort of attempt to stop our political communication.

 

And also we are looking to privately sue the police for their behaviour, their unlawful and unconstitutional behaviour.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think old Stephen Wells might have a role to play in that, because I can’t believe that guy spent, how long was it? Nearly four months. Three months. Four months in jail over a loitering charge that was then dropped just because he was trying to celebrate Australia Day publicly. I’ve never heard of anything close to that in Australian activism.

 

Joel Davis: According to High Court precedent, Stephen Wells has standing to go to the High Court and challenge the Constitutionality of what was done to him, of the acts that he was charged under. Because even though the charges were dropped, he did serve time. And particularly because they didn’t just charge him with loitering. Originally they did, but then when they realised that they’d have to release him after three months because it has a maximum sentence of three months. They then slapped a Nazi symbol charge on him in order to enable them to extend his stay in prison basically beyond the three month mark.

 

So he has standing to challenge that law at the High Court now because there’s been plenty of precedent established in High Court decisions that you don’t have to be being actively prosecuted under a particular law. You only need to have standing to go to the High Court. You just simply need to have suffered as a result of that law, that potentially unconstitutional law, and have reason to suspect that it could be applied to you again in the future. Now the Nazi symbol charge related to literally the symbol of our organisation or the NSN at the very least.

 

And so if you’re a member of the NSN, basically what they’re trying to say is that you could get arrested and thrown in prison for displaying our logo in public.

 

So it’s a political organisation. It seems like a pretty clear cut and dry constitutional issue.

 

So that’s what’s interesting that they’ve kind of facilitated Stephen potentially to go to the High Court. Also. Stephen Wells is up for a very handsome compensation payout. And so I think Stephen Wells will get paid very well for his four months. And Stephen Wells, the upstanding character that he is, he was saying to me today that:

 

“I want to sue these cunts, get as much money out of them as possible and then put that money away. So the next time someone gets arrested, they’ve got money to support them like the people who supported me.”

 

So he’s already like looking to be altruistic and pay it forward rather than just, I don’t know, sit on the cash, which he’s entitled to. So top bloke Stephen Wells! But it’s, I think he’s quite happy to do four months in prison and have a kind of epic story that inspires people and then go and collect money from ZOG and put it in the White Australia kitty, and so on. And now we’ve got standing to go to the High Court as I said.

 

So realistically we’ve taken a lot of wins here for not much suffering. I mean he had to suffer in prison. But the rest of us, we didn’t really need to suffer like we had minor inconveniences basically that we had to suffer. But the positive outcome from all of this has been to I think win a lot of sympathy in the public and gain a bit of legal leverage that we can now use.

 

Because when we set up this political party, obviously we’re contesting elections and it’s probably not going to be realistic that we’re going to go in and win government at the first election that we contest. Right? So we need something to do other than just march around and declare what we believe and try and get someone to vote for us.

 

And so these legal cases, not just these ones, but probably, I anticipate once we form the political party, there could be other High Court cases where they’re trying to take guns away from people who associate with us. We’re probably going to have to go to the High Court to try and protect their gun rights. There’s going to be stuff to do with the de-banking. Tom was saying he was intending on taking to the High Court. Then also, if we register our political party and then we have accounts on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and so on, and they try to de-platform us, were currently de-platformed from these websites, well, then we’ve also got standing to go to the High Court and say these companies are basically impairing representative democracy, which is unconstitutional. They’re impairing our right to political communication. As a registered political party in Australia, how can Australians have a representative democracy if their own political parties can’t even communicate to the voters what their policies are? So we’d have a very strong case there.

 

I think that would have a lot of sympathy in the community because there’s so much push in the state at every level to increase censorship on the Internet. And this could be one of the only ways really to strike back without taking power and reversing all these laws and getting rid of the eSafety Commission and all this garbage, would be to try and get to the High Court and get a decision that would establish precedent that would limit state overreach and the overreach of these big tech companies.

 

So these legal battles are going to be very important for us going forward and if we can have some successes or at least, you know, stand up sympathetically for our rights as Australians, could be a great way to also raise a lot of support for the party and the movement in general to see that we’re trying to engage in productive battles to defend the rights and freedoms of Australians, even outside of political power.

 

[18:28]

 

Blair Cottrell: If I’m understanding correctly, Tom, you’re now a free man, limited by no legal conditions of association. You can now train with the boys, you can associate with who you want. I’m imagining this because you’re on the stream with us for the first time in a while. The reason you haven’t been able to jump onto the stream with Joel or I, or with Joel specifically, is because he’s a member of your organisation. Am I right in believing this? You’re a free man now? Well to some extent.

 

Thomas Sewell: Relatively, yeah. I’m not currently having my political communication suppressed by the Magistrates Court, but I do still have three pending court cases regarding other matters that are, like including the so-called offensive behaviour in Ballarat. Doing a political demonstration in Ballarat. Jacob Hersant’s also been charged with offensive behaviour for a rally he did in Melbourne CBD So those two rallies, both rally leaders or rally spokespersons, like the speakers of both those rallies have been charged. Myself and Jacob. Joel, have you been charged yet with offensive behaviour?

 

Joel Davis: No, they’re still investigating me for the jews Hate Freedom rally. But they’ve got 12 months, so they can basically, … They’re also investigating me for offensive behaviour also for when we had the boys, my rabbi friends, and we went down and endorsed the Liberal Party at the last election. And yeah, so we’ll see if they end up charging me on those, but we don’t know yet.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, so another tactic they’re using, Blair, is they’re confusing political speech with like public misconduct.

 

So they’re trying to use laws that stop you from mooning a police officer or something silly like that. Or I think it’s like really bad swearing or something like that. They’re trying to use these laws to prevent political communication. The same way in Adelaide they tried to use loitering as a law to stop us from politically communicating.

 

But yeah, so I’m on bail for those and I have trials upcoming this year for those cases. But yeah, I’m allowed to associate at this stage. Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: I watch updates on Australian like motorcycle clubs sometimes just like Crime Updates, news on YouTube. It’s just a side interest of mine and I can’t help but notice that I think they’re trying to treat you guys the same way they treat some of these so-called outlaw motorcycle clubs. Because in Australia, if you don’t know, we have bikie gangs. In Queensland specifically, I’m pretty sure there’s strong legislation making it very difficult for those gangs to operate. I’m pretty sure you can’t even have a gang or MC club logo or insignia. Like you can’t even display it publicly. Or even have it in your house. If they know you’ve got it, they’ll raid you and take your jumper because it has a club logo on it.

 

And I’m just noticing similarities between the way the police treat you guys down here. It’s like they want you to be an outlaw gang and they expect to be able to get away with treating a political organisation which in the near future will be a registered political party, like they’re an outlaw gang. And I don’t think that’s going to fly. There’s no precedent in Australian legal history where that’s being tolerated by serious levels of court.

 

Of course, magistrates levels of court seem to tolerate whatever they’re told to tolerate. But I think once you get to county and beyond, you’ll probably see some judges and some outcomes that are more favourable to what is fair and actually legally applicable for you guys.

 

So, yeah, I’m glad you’re out! Well out of the conditions that were binding you and I’m glad you’re able to join us again.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: What’s going to be the main thing on our agenda? What are we going to go on with lads?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think the big thing to discuss this week in international politics is the way that Trump is trying to really unsuccessfully sweep the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing under the rug. I mean, obviously the cover-up has been successful. They’ve managed to, well first the FBI and the Attorney General of the United States came out last week and said:

 

“Oh, the Epstein files, they don’t actually don’t exist. We’ve concluded our investigation and they don’t exist!”

 

Just tried to gaslight everyone. And obviously the reaction from just everyone in the world basically was:

 

“What do you mean they don’t exist?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, explain to me, Joel, explain to me. And for the audience, to make it simple, what are the Epstein files? What do they consist of? Is it a list of clients that were in a prostitution ring? Because that’s my understanding. Is that right?

 

[23:23]

 

Joel Davis: I’m sure the files contain a lot more than just that.

 

But obviously the files would contain names of who’s going there and there’s been all these allegations that potentially these people are named and those people like Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew and blah, blah, blah, and photos of different elites and that were involved with Jeffrey Epstein and so on, and people going to the island, the flight logs, the so-called Lolita Express that was taking all these people out to this private island in the Caribbean. But obviously we don’t know what’s in the files because the files have not been released. Right.

 

But there was a promise before the last election that if Trump was to win, the files would be released, which no one intelligent believed. But even like Donald Trump Jr. was saying:

 

“Release the files!”

 

You know, blah, blah, blah.

 

Blair Cottrell: And now they’re saying there are no files. Is that right

 

Joel Davis: No, they’re not actually saying that now. Now they said that. And then a few days later, Trump changed the narrative to, not there are no files, to:

 

“Well, the Democrats they’ve concocted fake documents!”

 

And the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing apparently is a Democrat op, just like the Steele dossier and blah, blah, blah. And:

 

“It’s a hoax and it’s a political witch hunt and all this stuff trying to undermine me!”

 

He’s trying to spin it like this. But it’s ridiculous!

 

Number one, because Jeffrey Epstein committed, quote, unquote, “suicide”. You know, no one really believes that he killed himself.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh yeah, I heard the footage that they had of him in jail. Someone ran it through a metadata analysis and found that it had been edited several times. They could even tell the programme it was edited with. So the stuff that they released or had regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s suicide has all been doctored and edited. That’s not the real footage of his so-called suicide.

 

Joel Davis: Well, also, when that occurred he was under the Attorney General of the United States was Bill Barr. Bill Barr’s father, by the way, employed Jeffrey Epstein a long time ago and they have long, deep family connections to one another. Bill Barr was made Attorney General of the United States by Trump. He was in the Trump administration and he was the one running the Department of Justice who had Jeffrey Epstein incarcerated.

 

So it was under his watch that Jeffrey Epstein was killed and it was under his watch that it wasn’t investigated and that it was covered up.

 

So the Trump administration covered this up to begin with. Also, Donald Trump himself was friends with Jeffrey Epstein from the 1980s onwards. They allegedly, their friendship allegedly broke down in the 2000s because they had a dispute like Trump bought some condo in Palm beach in Florida that Jeffrey Epstein wanted to buy and they had some dispute. But they were very close friends. There’s lots of video footage showing this and Jeffrey Epstein even described Donald Trump as his “best friend” at one point in the 1990s.

 

So that’s obviously very important to bring up.

 

And also there’s plenty of people in the Trump administration or around Trump, like Trump’s Lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who is a jew and who was one of the main lawyers working on the whole election fraud, so-called lawsuits and so on after the 2020 election. He was also Jeffrey Epstein’s Lawyer and apparently went to the island and so on. There’s just so many connections between Trump and Epstein and Trump’s original administration and associates and Jeffrey Epstein. The list just goes on. We could do a whole stream just detailing all this stuff. So move forward.

 

Obviously there’s a lot of Democrats that are implicated in this too, like the Clintons and so on. So the Democrats aren’t going to release the files. The Democrats aren’t going to hold people to account for what’s happened here either.

 

But Trump is saying because the Democrats were sitting on the files over the last four years, magically they’ve changed them all and he doesn’t want to release them because apparently he’s basically admitting guilt that he’s in the files.

 

Elon Musk came out a few weeks ago and said they’re not being released because Trump’s in the files. Put the pressure on Trump after they fell out. And the pressure is telling, because now while Trump is every day coming out saying:

 

“No one cares about Jeffrey Epstein, everyone needs to stop talking about it.”

 

And so on. We’re seeing more and more elements of his base, of his movement turning on him. Tucker Carlson is giving speeches.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I turn on my YouTube. I don’t even watch stuff in relation to Jeffrey Epstein. I know almost nothing about it. I know what most people would know that is that there is some sort of list or documents implicating people in very unethical activities, probably for the purposes of Israeli blackmail and influence over American politicians. That’s what I know. And I turn on my YouTube and all throughout my recommended videos is people that usually do streams on video games or conspiracies who don’t even usually talk about this stuff, like doing videos on this stuff. So it’s just across the board. Have you seen much of it?

 

Joel Davis: I saw an opinion poll by the way of Americans:

 

“And do you agree with how Trump is handling the Jeffrey Epstein case?”

 

And it was like 12% said yes. So he’s lost everyone. Like no one’s going along with this shit! But go ahead Tom.

 

Thomas Sewell: I don’t have anything to add on the Epstein thing. It’s obviously been covered. It’s my only observation, …

 

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Blair Cottrell: Do you agree that it kind of feels really drawn out. It’s almost like I’m sick of hearing it. It’s like it’s been going on for so long and nothing’s ever come of it. Maybe they’re trying to create that feeling, just kind of make people feel fatigued.

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe. I think that it’s a weapon that both sides have used against each other.

 

So when the Democrats were in power with Biden, they had the Biden laptop scandal and they had obviously a lot of people in the Democrat Party were connected to Epstein and other people that were on the Lolita Express. A lot of a list celebrities are Democrats and they were all on the list.

 

And then now that Trump’s in power being, you know, turned back on Trump obviously photos way back in the day, like before the 2020 election came out that showed Trump as friends with Epstein and Trump making comments about how Epstein’s got a particular taste in younger women. And Trump was saying that he kind of agreed with it. It was a bit incriminating. You know, if you were Italian, there’d be plausible deniability that you’re talking about 18 year olds or something. Anyway, I digress.

 

I think that it’s interesting to see a mega civil war or MAGA civil war, however you want to pronounce it. I think it’s good to see that there are these kind of Qtard, you know, conspiracy theorist, you know, MAGAs or Make America Great Again camp that all of a sudden are telling people to move on from a legitimate conspiracies, a legitimate Mossad blackmail entrapment scheme. Because they always want you to focus on conspiracy theories, but just not the ones that are real. They want you to focus on nonsense and talk about Antarctic, well, not necessarily nonsense, but they want to talk you about side quest things like Antarctica and 5G and stuff like that.

 

But then this is just black and white! This is an Israeli Mossad blackmail scheme. It’s undeniable, it’s a fact. And these people want us to brush it under the table.

 

And it just shows that, yeah, the MAGA camp is dead. It ties in good timing as well with obviously the tension between, you know, Musk, who’s a power broker in the US and Donald Trump. And so seeing the MAGA camp fall apart is a good thing. It’s a good thing. And it’s a good thing for the same reason why we’ve worked so hard to destroy the Liberal Party here in Australia, successfully destroy the Liberal Party here in Australia.

 

Americans need a form of Right-wing, pro-White politics that is superior to Make America Great Again. They need a much harder and more staunch, more ideologically consistent. It’s not just a kind of cult of personality around Donald Trump. So I’m watching, I’m watching along.

 

Joel Davis: What was very interesting this week was Tucker Carlson gave a speech at the Turning Point USA event where he basically said Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent. And this is being swept under the rug. How come Israel can blackmail our politicians with sexual blackmail, with a paedophile ring, and there’s a conspiracy on both sides of politics to cover it up:

 

“How is this acceptable?”

 

And the crowd was going ballistic at this conservative event. At Charlie Kirk’s Hail Israel Hail ZOG conservative event. The crowd’s still going ballistic.

 

So there’s been a sea change where conservative political discourse in the United States has become dominated by dissident Right talking points ideas. And the younger generation of Right-wingers in the United States and I think everywhere are turning against the jews, against Israel. They’re more radical on racial issues. And Tucker Carlson coming out and doing that, basically he just pissed in Trump’s face. And then Trump came out this few days ago and said:

 

“Well, anyone who wants to talk about Epstein, I don’t want their support. They’re fake supporters and we’re done with them.”

 

So what is he saying? He doesn’t want Tucker Carlson support, doesn’t want the support of Matt Walsh. I saw Matt Walsh come out and criticise Trump on the same grounds. Like so many of these really big, like massive following influential conservative commentators that come out on the side of the people against Trump.

 

And so what this is the foundation of a new American Right, in my opinion, that moves beyond Trump, that embraces more radical talking points. And it seems like Elon Musk is willing to fund these guys too.

 

So it’s shaping up to be quite interesting to see how this develops over the next couple years because a lot of people thought after the last election, Peter Thiel got his J.D. Vance, you know, curry burner, vice president installed. And Trump will just basically bamboozle all the Boomers and all the masses with his charisma and his policies and everyone will de-radicalise and then JD Vance will end up just being the heir to the throne and then he’ll become president and they’ll just hold this paradigm of politics down on lock for the next decade and we’re just going to have to eat the slop.

 

Well, actually, I don’t think so. actually, this has completely blown things up and now it seems like a more radical challenger could emerge to take the throne off The Prince.

 

So it’s quite interesting to observe.

 

Blair Cottrell: What do you guys think about, because you mentioned Tucker Carlson. What do you guys think about Tucker Carlson? What’s his game? Because his message has become more explicit in the last year or so. and where does he stand? Do you trust him?

 

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Thomas Sewell: No! [chuckling] I don’t trust him.

 

But it’s an improvement of controlled opposition, certainly. If the controlled opposition has to continue moving further and further to our direction, well, eventually they’ll have to run a controlled opposition which is just a copy of us.

 

And I think people will choose the real us over the controlled opposition copy of us, when it gets to that point.

 

So, yeah, it’s a good to see, it’s very good to see the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Battle there is to continue existing. Yeah, because they won’t want you to exist. Right. But if he’s controlled opposition, Tucker Carlson, who’s controlling him, do you think? What are your theories?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I think he’s in the CIA. Yeah, I think he’s in the CIA.

 

So I think he’s part of a different faction within the Deep State. And I think Trump was an independent person that was being influenced by different factions within the CIA.

 

And I think that perhaps they’re jumping ship from Trump. I don’t think that Tucker Carlson is entirely aligned with Musk, for example. I think he’s kind of like a fourth party when you think about it. I don’t know too much about Democrat politics, but I think the Right-wing is moving in an odd direction where there’s the Trump camp, there’s the Musk camp, and there’s the, what you could call like the Tucker camp. And I think those are the three most powerful forces in the American Right.

 

Blair Cottrell: I expect you have your reasons for believing that. There’s probably plenty of information that suggests that. I haven’t personally looked into it. What do you think, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: His father was a CIA agent. That’s confirmed. And then Tucker himself said that he wanted to join the CIA in the 1990s when he finished college, but he didn’t make the grade, apparently. He didn’t get the contract. So then he decided to become a journalist. But that seems, I don’t know [chuckling] if I believe that story.

 

Thomas Sewell: Bullshit!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Bullshit, because the CIA are desperate for recruits, and especially recruits with a high IQ, which he has. And it’s a fact that the CIA hires thousands and thousands of journalists a year. Hires people to become journalists.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. There’s something called Operation Mockingbird. Google it. Yeah. If you don’t know what it is.

 

Thomas Sewell: I mean, it’s slightly different, but it’s on the same talking point. You know, the Director General of ASIO only two or three years ago came out in a Senate inquiry and said that:

 

“They employ journalists, that they could be a journalist, they could be a teacher, they could be whatever, and they’re actually secretly an ASIO agent. We’re everywhere, basically.”

 

And in the case of journalism, it’s very important to have intelligence services control journalism. That’s probably the key industry for intelligence services to control.

 

Joel Davis: Also, if you want to understand Tucker Carlson’s motivations, I think the motivations could be understood if he is like a CIA operative or at least connected to the Deep State, is geopolitical.

 

So what does Tucker Carlson basically do with his influence? He plays down the whole Russia thing, criticises Zelensky, criticises funding the war in Ukraine. Now he’s criticising Israel and the involvement with Israel.

 

But he’s also always been a China hawk who has been very consistent that China is the real threat. America needs to focus on fighting China. And there’s other elements in the Trump administration and across the American Right who have that view. Elbridge Colby, who’s the Undersecretary of Defense, he’s been saying that for years, and now he’s the Under Secretary of Defense. He just came out the other day demanding that Australia and Japan commit to fighting alongside the United States if Taiwan is invaded, to give you an idea of what he’s all about. And he’s also the main guy in the Trump administration trying to block assistance to Ukraine and so on, because he thinks it’s taking away from a deterrent and potential action against China in vis a vis Taiwan.

 

So Tucker Carlson comes along and he can kind of wrangle the Crown by pushing this kind of anti-Ukraine, anti-Israel, which are both very popular with conservatives Angles in order to kind of push for a war with China or China, Hawking, at the very least, in addition to having a very kind of patriotic, you know, style and so on. You can see why the CIA would look upon him as someone or look upon that style of politics as something that they would support because they would see it maybe as in the geopolitical interests of the United States. And that’s what the CIA is fundamentally like. It’s fundamental reason for existing is basically keeping America the global hegemon.

 

Blair Cottrell: For our American viewers, I know we’ve had Thomas Rousseau on the show, leader of Patriot Front. Is he the primary guy, organisation, political faction or personality you guys would endorse in America? Is there someone else? Is he the main man? I mean, who’s the real deal?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, Thomas is, and Patriot Front is the most organised and they are the largest White nationalist group in the United States. They hold their cards a little bit closer to their chest than us in terms of their ideology. They keep things a little bit more “heritage American”, as they say. And that’s their strategy. It’s kind of like a halfway point between what we’re doing and the United Patriots Front, obviously, without UPF being a purely anti-Islam movement, it being a Patriot Front. So it, yeah, it’s definitely a specific tactic that he’s using and he’s done quite well with it. And they continue to grow.

 

There are a lot of other organisations. The Rob Rundo active club model was quite large and it’s all across the country. So their groupings are a lot smaller. You know, you’re talking usually five to ten guys at a time, but there are hundreds of groups of five to 10 guys.

 

And then you have Hammer, doing Blood Tribe. So we get accused of being wignats, but we’re pretty light on the wignatory compared to particular people in America.

 

And you’ve got all sorts of groups. You’ve got Wagner’s group, you’ve got Volkers Resistance Movement, you’ve got, … There’s a lot of groups in the United States. It’s very different to Australia in that sense. We’ve kind of co-ordinated all of the White nationalist energy all into one body, which has its pros and cons.

 

But in the United States, I think Patriot Front probably control 30 or 40% of the market, if you want to put it that way. But they certainly have over 90% of the visibility. What they’ve done very well is they’ve got the majority of the visibility.

 

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Blitz007
6 days ago
these people are great and we need more of em
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WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE
6 days ago
TEAM WHITE UNITE
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Strueth
6 days ago
Thanks guys, I love listening to your chats… I don’t feel so alone in our country knowing you have our backs and are willing to stand up for our white Australia… I long for how it was in the 70’s… we had it all, and slowly it’s been taken right out from under us, betrayed by those wimps in parliament… Thank you
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palacepony
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4 days ago
The fuckery really kicked off with Whitlam. Constitutional vandalism which needs to be addressed. That was when the gloves came off with Vietnamese immigration and demoralising ‘liberal’ law pushes. We were ruled by TV and under the oogabooga blues spell.
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StevenGurr
6 days ago
Absolute total bullshit Sick of these cunt pigs and courts. Loitering isn’t even an arrestable offence and then to continue adding simple offences is a joke. And further to add non association conditions on the bail is totalitarian shit. Keep up the fight and go after every individual pig, judge and state lawyer involved.
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Dissident_Loner
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6 days ago
Hey! The Three Amigos!
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Restlessdreams88
6 days ago
88 .
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mharrison52
6 days ago
rome, pheonixian, ancient arayans in India. Mexica, Brazil, All of central and south america. America and Candada now. every great white civilization has ended the same way mongrolzation then conplete collapse. It’s a trend about whites that we cant afford to mistake again. in aglobal society there are no where to go. global genocide.
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Sieger88
6 days ago
Unfortunately Aston Martin is now owned by the kíke Strulović
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paceytarzan
6 days ago
Sieg
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Winstein_Synagoguehill
6 days ago
Luxury and comfort made the yankees soft. There’s not much of a White working class in the USA. Most working class are Amerindian and African. Go into a boxing gym in the USA and there’s not a single White person. Completely reversed from Britain and Ireland. American families the mother is usually the boss and dad has been cucked to a little muted nub.
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KeithyFM
5 days ago
Turks and Greeks… chalk n cheese. Turks should be back in Turkmenistan.
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Motion937
5 days ago
The mustache without the beard looks goofy with the shaved head.
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Motown88
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Yes there are young women that have resisted the feminist conditioning, 5 of them are my daughters… and I’m so proud.
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deputydawg000
4 days ago
CritalEyeMMA on youtube and AntiwokeMMA on rumble is also worth a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz_LOvsbMiM https://rumble.com/v6w0l5s-livestream-one-year-anniversary.-its-the-jews.-race-realism-live-stream.html?e9s=src_v1_wh&playlist_id=watch-history
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Orangejoos
4 days ago
Very pragmatic , and informed discussion . Always appreciate the three of you. I’m only informed by Nick otherwise , the rest is almost entirely bullshit or toxic. Thanks — for all you hero’s do.
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wyrdweasel
3 days ago
I think that you have had to do something blackmailable in order to be able to do business at the highest level and to join the club. When everyone in that circle has something on everyone else, there would be a certain kind of mutual insurance when it comes to the threat of exposure.
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empowerprivate
2 days ago
Rabbis, when they are sucking blood out, it’s Adrenochrome.
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Restlessdreams88
19 hours ago
Gotta get Jacob on more
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katana17
6 days ago
[Joel Davis – MechaHitler – a Manifestation of Musk’s Machiavellianism, or Something More? – Jul 11, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/07/17/joel-davis-mechahitler-a-manifestation-of-musks-machiavellianism-or-something-more-jul-11-2025-transcript/
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mharrison52
6 days ago
aTom has Aura like an Anglo Addy
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hueyvam123
6 days ago
The best. Great to see the gang back together again.
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EarthlingCarl
5 days ago
No hate but is Joel rocking a comb over?
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whitehonkymonkey
5 days ago
hello lads,good to see the crew back together. though it feels like a win with the courts,its all about getting rid of us on the day. they don’t give a f… about the arrests not sticking ,as long as they pull you off the street on the day. your tactics also need to create distractions when out protesting. create confusion. keep it up lads.
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BasedNapoleon
5 days ago
Just watched ‘Latham at Large’ where Mark Latham featured as a guest journalist on 60 minutes covering the 2010 election between Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard. He deconstructed the campaign process and pressed Abbott about migration.
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UncircumcisedCircus
5 days ago
I do think there is a waspy faction of the CIA that doesnt want to always take orders from the Mossad.
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DaveScribe
5 days ago
Blair, all it takes is an accusation. Ironic since you were accused of stalking by a woman who was stalking you. It’s not uncommon for the perpetrator to call the police first in order to allay suspicion off from themself. I was in a holding cell with a middle aged white engineer who had a knife pulled on him by his neighbor. The neighbor called the cops first & got the engineer arrested.
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Motown88
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Great stream guys, thanks
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ProvingNihil
4 days ago
Would love to meet white nationalists in my area but can’t find any in my state.
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ProvingNihil
4 days ago
Also when dating a woman, hell or just interacting with anyone in general. I personally record it on my GoPro, yeah it’s a tad bit weird some people don’t understand, but you never know what will happen, especially with women.
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Makulatoren
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I disagree with Thomas about Tucker Carlson. The CIA would never betray the mossad in that way of having matyr made on. Because then they would lose their Epstein tickets. Tucker is just acting like the average boomer. He wants to back to the american ideal but knows deep down that it was fake. Yet he still yerns for it.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: We are live another episode of the show. It is the 11th of July, 2025, and there’s a lot to discuss. It’s been somewhat interesting week in developments. There’s some issues to break down, some happenings to dissect, and we’ve got Blair back. So how you feeling this evening?

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay. I was just sending you something, actually, something that might be worth talking about later, but I’ve been a little bit sick. I was a bit sick last week and I have some, I don’t know, residual infection of some kind. It’s not that bad, but it feels like it’s inside my face somewhere. And I’ve got like swollen lymph nodes. Does anyone else get that? It’s like a node underneath your ear here somewhere and I can feel it pushing against a nerve in my tooth, so that’s not so pleasant, but I’m otherwise fine.

 

Well, that’s not true, actually. I sustained a slight injury in the gym on Monday, training for the weightlifting competition that’s coming up. I slightly tore my pec again, but only very slight. I got a scan at a radiology clinic yesterday and even though the woman who did the scan isn’t qualified to make any assessments, it was her opinion that my tendon was completely attached still. And it does seem that way because there’s no visible difference, there’s no bruising, but it’s quite painful and I’m currently not really able to do a push up. [chuckling] So that’s not good news, being only a few weeks out from the actual date of the competition.

 

But look, I’ve made pretty miraculous recoveries before, so I’m stealing with a chance here. I’m not going to let anyone down completely. I can still deadlift very heavy and squat, pretty heavy. And I only need my numbers on the bench press to be reasonable in order to stay in the game.

 

But it was kind of annoying. I spoke to Joel on the phone about this earlier in the week. What I’m most annoyed about isn’t that the injury happened. It’s that about a week before I got injured, I was lifting more than I was when I got injured.

 

So I’m not really sure how to interpret that. And I feel like I warmed up properly, I rested properly, I might not have been hydrated enough. That might have been it. And I may have changed my grip slightly. It’s like little things like that when you’re lifting quite heavy that can lead to injuries, so there’s that.

 

So I’ve got a slight infection Inside my face somewhere and I’ve got a slightly torn peck again. I’ve seen better days, guys but I’m feeling fine. It hasn’t got me down.

 

What I was thinking about this morning and yesterday to some extent I was thinking about how much sweeter women were before the Internet. Do you remember that, Joel? Like girls.

 

Joel Davis: Huh?

 

Blair Cottrell: What was that?

 

Joel Davis: I’m not old enough to remember that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Really? What, you’re only what, 29, 30?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but even still, I remember everyone was on social media when I was in high school, so.

 

Blair Cottrell: Interesting! You see, I remember a time before social media. I remember when social media kind of started with MySpace. And it wasn’t so bad then because that was before a time where you could access social media through a screen in your pocket. With MySpace you had to actually sit at your computer. So it was like of secondary importance. Like real life human interaction was still of primer the primary way that you interacted with other people.

 

And I can recall how much sweeter girls used to be. Like you used to sit next to in high school, you’d sit next to a girl and talk to her and she was blown away. She was so happy that you were talking to her. You were possibly the only guy that spoke to her in a period of six months. And it’s like these days women don’t have a good grasp on their limited value. Social media has made women feel like they’re a lot more valuable than they are. Even average looking girls are getting a shitload of attention on platforms like Instagram.

 

And so when you talk to a girl now, this is just like not saying I’m out there trying to talk to girls, right? It’s not like a frustration I’ve got or something. It was just like a nostalgic feeling I had over the past couple of days. I remember how much different girls used to be before the Internet. Like pre-Internet, women were superior to modern day women because they didn’t have a big head. They didn’t all feel like they were Victoria’s Secret models with their own little, you know, fashion magazine page on Instagram.

 

And I also noticed. I’ll get your take on this too. I don’t know if you’d agree with this.

 

Joel Davis: I can’t give a take on what you just said. We have to blow past the take?

 

Blair Cottrell: But I noticed that women are like stressed and angry when you see them in public. They’ve got this look on their face like it’s an angry look on their face. Like they’re men or something. You know how guys walk around with a frown, like a male ego? Women have that now as well.

 

Now, that’s probably for a multitude of reasons. It’s probably because women are expected to make money and compete in industries previously relevant only to men.

 

But I also think it’s because there’s a lot of pressure on women to maintain the image they’ve created on social media because they look really pretty on their Instagram pages with their special pictures taken on the perfect angle to make their waist look small and their bust look big and that kind of thing.

 

But then they go out into the real world and people are seeing them for the way they really look, and that’s a little bit stressful for them. There’s a lot riding on the reputation that they’ve created in the virtual realm to continue to look as beautiful as that.

 

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So I’ve just been thinking about this, and I’ve been forced to conclude that I think social media should be banned, especially for women. I think women just shouldn’t be allowed on social media because they turn it into a prostitution racket. And it’s just bad for their psychology generally. I don’t think it’s necessarily good for men either, because actually men just end up simping after women and feeding into the problem, don’t they?

 

What do you think, Joel? Joel, do you think we could have an Internet without social media, where the Internet could be used just for financial fluidity, making buying and selling easier? Maybe for business to some degree, but not for personal social reasons that should just be blanket banned? I can think of a lot of, …

 

Joel Davis: Like, how do you stop people from socializing?

 

Blair Cottrell: Just ban social media. Like ban block all social media. Countries like North Korea and China do this.

 

Joel Davis: They block certain social media sites, but then they have their own, … Social media is just socializing on the Internet, really. Like, if you think about it.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s more than that. When you give a voice, when you allow every idiot an opinion, it turns into a lot of bullshit noise!

 

Joel Davis: Well, I thought about this. Like, imagine if imagine if Twitter forced you to take an IQ test and you had to score like 115 plus to have an account that could actually post anything. Imagine how much better it would be.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s a start.

 

Joel Davis: But what you’re saying, Blair, is the government is trying to ban, I think, everyone under the age of 16 from social media. What you want to do is you want to instead women.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, absolutely! I want to start with that. I eventually want to phase social media out altogether. I just think it’s been terrible for human social interaction. It’s overexposed people to way too many different identities and faces. It’s created unrealistic expectations. Do you know how exhausting it is even when you’re on your lunch break from work to be scrolling social media and still trying to take in another hundred new faces? Like, do you know how many faces I have in my memory? That of people I don’t know, I didn’t even know their names. And overloaded in my brain are images of people’s faces, people on screens trying to sell me shit! I don’t want their faces in my fucking memory.

 

I don’t think we’re designed to see so many different human faces. We’re only designed to know a certain amount of people. And before the Internet, you only knew people in your certain or specific region, in your suburb, they were familiar. Even the people in the next suburb were weird! The way they talked, their mannerisms, they were weird, man! Only people in your area made sense. Only they were familiar. And I found myself not really feeling socially exhausted before the Internet, but now I just don’t want to talk to anyone ever!

 

Now, once I’m done with work, it’s like, fucking leave me alone! And it’s got something to do with overexposure to too much socialisation, to too many faces, to too many bullshit personalities and the hype that they’re trying to create through the screens. And that’s what happens when you give everyone access to everything all of the time. And that’s what it is, isn’t it? Social media, it’s everything and everyone all of the time. And I don’t think we’re geared for that as human beings, individuals. I think its way too much.

 

Joel Davis: Well, I definitely agree with you that it’s doing incredible damage to our psyche, because it’s clearly completely unnatural. And it is producing a kind of rootlessness where everyone’s social experience is so mediated by the online realm that the actual real life that they live is becoming incredibly inauthentic.

 

But I think it also goes the other way. I think also part of the reason why people spend so much time on social media is because they’ve flooded our country with immigrants. And so your neighbours are Chinese or your neighbours are Indian or the guys you work with from the Middle East or something. And so you don’t really have much in common. So it’s much harder for the Average person to find people in their everyday life that are into the same things that they’re into. Whereas you can go on social media and you can then find people who are into exactly what you’re into very easily.

 

And so it’s kind of like a consequence really of diversity that people are kind of seeking out, that becomes more necessary to seek that out like, than it otherwise would. So it’s a little bit of both directions.

 

But you know, you definitely are making good points, particularly at the dating market. The dating market has become completely. I don’t like using this term “dating market” because it shouldn’t use a term like market to describe something like that. But like know the dating world has become retarded like as a result of, as, …

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s the opposite of the way it used to be. Before the Internet. Women used to simp after men, women would simp after men. Now it’s the other way around. Now even average looking girls have like 15 decent looking guys making good money in their DMs trying to get their attention.

 

And obviously women are going to string those guys along for as long as possible because it feels good to keep getting that much attention. They’re not going to choose one unless they really have to. Unless you know they’re about to hit the wall and they need to have a kid. So it’s completely flipped everything upside down.

 

Like I said, man used to talk to a girl pre-Internet days and she really appreciated it. Girls used to really appreciate male attention. Now it just annoys them! Well sometimes it annoys them, but they’re basically banking it up now. It’s like they’ve got, as I said, women these days. I’ll summarize it this way. They’re not in touch or they’re out of touch with their own limited value. Because women don’t have that much value. But because of social media, they’re made to believe they do. Not only are they delusional about the sense of value that they can possibly provide to society and to men, they expect to be treated like Queens.

 

Like you see these fat chicks these days on the Internet holding out for the perfect guy with the perfect body making six figures. What the fuck’s that about? Social media produced that unrealistic threshold of expectation. Because there are men out there that will simp after fat girls on social media.

 

When you give one woman access to all the world’s men in this virtual realm we call social media, the results have been disastrous! Let me put it to you this way. I’m nostalgic about how sweet women used to be before the Internet. They were really sweet! I think everyone was sweeter, but women in particular were much sweeter. And I miss pre-Internet women. I do.

 

Joel Davis: I would say one of the sexiest things about a woman is when they don’t like social media, when they have a revulsion for social media and don’t want to be a part of it and don’t maintain too many accounts on there and so on. Because it shows a healthy adaptation to this new social world of resistance to what you’re describing. This kind of like cheap attention economy that is obliterating people’s self perception in a totally inauthentic way.

 

Like you see this, it’s not just women because you see this with Anon accounts, let’s say on Twitter or whatever. I’ve seen this many times where people develop this whole online persona and then they get like lost in the online persona because it’s more stimulating to them than being who they actually are in real life.

 

And there’s been plenty of situations where there’s been this kind of worlds colliding moment where the reality of who they actually are crashes into this online persona they’ve cultivated and they don’t fit together. And it can be quite funny from kind of from a certain standpoint, but it’s also really sad and pathetic! And you know, it just feeds into people’s delusion.

 

But what you’re saying also about women having big heads because of social media and because of dating apps and things like that, I think I would say this, Blair. It’s not just about social media. I think dating apps are probably even worse than something like Instagram is because a woman can make like a Tinder account and then just get inundated with just so many matches and so many guys trying to like date them and so on that it totally over inflates their sense of themselves because they think:

 

“Well, that must be the level, like the hottest guy that’s messaging me must be the level that I’m on.”

 

But it’s like that guy that’s messaging you, that’s probably not someone that really values you as like a person and wants you to be their wife. They’re just trying to fuck you! So like that’s not actually your value. Like a woman’s value is how good of a man will marry you, not how good of a man will root and boot you! Know what I mean? And this is like the wires are getting crossed on this.

 

And there’s actually empirical research to back this up, that when men are asked to rank women and to rank themselves in terms of a Ranking between 1 and 10, or they get a whole spectrum of women and have to rank them from 1 to 10, men will rank women on average with a perfect distribution. They’ll have the same amount of ones, the same amount of twos, the same amount of threes, same amount of fours, amount of fives, et cetera, of a perfect distribution of a Ranking system. When they get asked to rank themselves, they make pretty good guesses.

 

When they get a whole bunch of women to look at their pictures and say, is this where do I rank? Men will make a far more accurate prediction, self prediction about where they rank than the other way around. Women will massively overrate themselves compared to what a spectrum of men will rate them, as sand women will completely warped Ranking system where they only rank 1% of men as tens and, 2% as nines, but they rate like 80% men as below five.

 

Blair Cottrell: Where do you rank yourself? What are you in the, what are you? Out of ten, man, what are you? I’d say I’m a seven. I reckon I’m a seven. I’ll be realistic. There’s certain things that let me down a few points.

 

Joel Davis: Like what?

 

Blair Cottrell: I get really mad. Really mad! I have really imperfect teeth. I actually still have four baby teeth.

 

Joel Davis: Getting really angry is its like, that’s not really like a points. It’s like in the points.

 

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Blair Cottrell: No, no, no, you don’t realise. It’s really fucking bad! [chuckling] So there’s that, and there’s a few other little things like genetically, biologically, I’m doing okay, but overall it has to be a seven. What do you reckon? How do you rate yourself?

 

Joel Davis: People in the chat are saying:

 

“If Blair’s a 7, it’s totally over for me!”

 

It’s pretty funny. Yeah, I’ll go with seven as well. Yeah, depends. It depends what a woman is looking for. I have a niche market. I think when I’m shopping in my niche, it’s very high. It’s much higher than 7.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look, the point still stands that we’re just not supposed to be able to interact with so many different people from so many different regions. Like, we’re only supposed to know our friends that we go to school with. We grow up with maybe their friends, their extended family. You would probably know something about this Joel, because you probably researched there’s probably a certain amount of people that we’re supposed to know or naturally were able to, …

 

Joel Davis: Well, there’s Dunbar’s number.

 

Blair Cottrell: 70 or something? Is it 80 or 100 people?

 

Joel Davis: Say 150 on average is basically how many people you can. Like your brain is actually capable of maintaining a consistent sense of a social relationship with blair Cottrell: Imagine how like damaging the is to your psychology. Some people would scroll past 150 different stranger faces on their screens every day and to be able to filter out all those faces and only consider the important ones worth remembering and I don’t know, I do have an instinct or an intuitive feeling that being exposed to too many strangers faces is one of the things that wears me down.

 

Basically. I limit my exposure to social media these days. It wasn’t so bad. The Internet was a slow burn when it first came out. It was a lot of fun because it was still of secondary importance. As I said when the stream began. The first way you still interacted with people was firstly in your local region. Like you would still only see people from your local region and maybe the next region over if someone was hosting a party or something and advertising it on MySpace.

 

And secondly, in real life you would still interact with them on that level and then only, you know of secondary importance was social media. You would share photos on social media afterwards, but you would only really share them with people that you did go out with. But then Facebook kind of started to change the game and then you got the never ending scrolling thing. Like we did have Instagram. Instagram was coming out when I was like, I don’t know, 21 or 22. But I got onto it late. It’s just bullshit!

 

Anyway, that’s what I was thinking about. That’s what we started to stream about today. We’ve talked about this for 20 minutes already. It’s amazing how time flies when you’re having fun. Time distortion they call it. No, temporal delusion. Delude, temporal distortion. I was just reading about that it’s when your perception of time is altered. When it feels like it’s going slower or faster than usual. Something we need to, we most of us experience on a daily basis. Well, I’ve just experienced that temporal distortion.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well the first topic that I actually plan to discuss today was this phenomenon of Grok on X beginning to refer to itself as “MechaHitler” and dropping a whole series of red pilled takes. Grok went full patriot mode, started calling out the jews, started praising Adolf Hitler, etc., and this caused quite the stir. You know, obviously our guys noticed it and were having fun with it and then our enemies noticed it and started freaking out in horror! And it was all quite entertaining.

 

But it’s interesting because the question is why? I think it’s interesting to why did that just happen? I think it’s an interesting question to ponder. You know, one very simple explanation is, well, X was just transitioning from Grok 3 to Grok 4 and it was a kind of marketing gimmick. I don’t think that it’s that simple though. The second explanation is that it was an experimentation with taking the training wheels, basically the politically correct training wheels off of AI and seeing what would happen. And it was like an experiment. And the experiment showed that if you take the PC training wheels off AI, within a couple days it’s hailing Hitler. [chuckling]

 

So what does that say?

 

Like if you have a machine that is programmed to just simply create like a logical sequences of reasoning without the mediation of ideology, it would just reason itself to being a Nazi. Says quite a lot.

 

Another explanation is that it was a ploy by Elon Musk to win over more support again from outside of the fence. There’s been an interesting kind of set of developments in American politics over the past few months. We’ve seen Elon Musk and Donald Trump fall out in a very kind of public way to the point where Elon Musk is publicly accusing Donald Trump of being on the Epstein client list. Obviously just this week. The FBI came out and said there is no Epstein client list. It doesn’t exist apparently, even though they acknowledge that it existed publicly, like the Attorney General, United States, Pam Bondi, she acknowledged that it existed. She said it was on her desk. Now the FBI is coming out and saying it doesn’t exist, like there is no client list, which is absurd obviously.

 

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So they’re just basically pissing in our face and telling us it’s raining. Like it’s a blatant cover up. And it’s not a surprise really to anyone who’s truly paying attention because Donald Trump is an old associate of Jeffrey Epstein. And Elon Musk is probably right, he probably was on the list, or at least is implicated in some way.

 

Moreover, who’s implicated ultimately in the list is the State of Israel and its influence over American and Western politics in general.

 

And obviously what we’ve seen over the past couple months is Donald Trump go to bat for Israel. And what was interesting about it because it wasn’t the first time. But what was interesting about it with the whole bombing of Iran and so on, was the way in which so much of the so-called MAGA coalition, so many of these conservative commentators broke ranks with Trump and criticised it quite forcefully, opposed themselves to, basically getting embroiled in some dispute between Israel and Iran on behalf of Israel, started asserting America First against Israel and started talking about Zionist influence over American politics, basically calling it like it is.

 

More and more of the Right-wing in America is turning on Israel, particularly the younger generations. They’ve woken up to jewish power, increasingly substantial number. And it’s being conceded by a lot of the main influences now across, across the spectrum.

 

And so what we’re seeing is the kind of sea change in on the American Right where Israel has lost Millennial and Zoomer Right-wingers basically and also have lost the new media form. Like young people don’t watch Fox News like Boomers. They don’t get the neocon Boomer updates from Fox News. They’re on X, they’re on Instagram, they’re watching Joe Rogan or they’re watching various other podcasts. And they basically getting influenced by personalities, not by traditional media corporations. And they prefer the authenticity of that.

 

And as a result they gravitate to many popular figures who individually feel a kind of responsibility to their audience, a necessity to their audience to concede increasingly more and more of our talking points, because otherwise people will hate them, view them as sellouts and move on to other podcasts, other influences.

 

And so influencers are now more and more beholden to the people and the people are more and more anti-semitic. And there’s this kind of virtual cycle basically where this is fueling a rise in the popularity of our views and the potency of our views basically in the media landscape.

 

And Elon Musk is himself a kind of self styled people’s billionaire. He doesn’t just want to have money and exercise influence behind the scenes. He wants to be loved by the people. He wants everyone to talk about him all the time. He wants people of our persuasion to look to him as a potential solution, as a potential leader that could change the direction of Western civilisation. That’s what he wants, that’s clear.

 

Why is he throwing Romans at the Republican National Convention? Why is he throwing $300 million into the Trump Convention campaign so that he can be positioned next to Trump and all of these key moments? Why did he buy X and you know, why is he constantly engaging in popular political discourse? That’s why! He’s trying to solicit our support. Now that he’s kind of been marginalised from Trump. And why has he been marginalised from Trump? Well, obviously, that influence that he thought he was buying didn’t work out.

 

You know, around the time when they started publicly falling out, there was this announcement that Peter Thiel’s Palantir was going to get the AI contracts for basically the American government, for the American Department of Defense and so on, and all the surveillance contracts, etc. And Musk was obviously competing for that. Musk obviously wanted that.

 

Peter Thiel is a billionaire who funded J.D. Vance’s entire political career, basically, who’s now the vice president. Peter Thiel is this billionaire who, unlike Trump, likes to work from the shadows. He’s an elitist. He doesn’t care about the public loving him, but he exercises influence over the Right in very complex ways. He funds a lot of influences. He funds networks that at one point even tried to recruit me, many years ago. I was asked basically to shut up about the jews to be recruited into this network. Obviously, I didn’t shut up about the jews. [chuckling] And so that never happened. That never materialised.

 

But that’s Peter Thiel’s money and influence permeates through the Right-wing, even the dissident Right-wing, in very complex ways which aren’t so well publicized or well known. And Peter Thiel and Elon Musk are kind of old rivals. They were both part of what was called the PayPal Mafia. They were both big investors in PayPal back in the early 2000s. And Elon Musk was the CEO of PayPal when he went on his honeymoon with his first wife. Peter Thiel, who is a homosexual, by the way, chose that movement of weakness, to move against him and get himself installed as CEO and kick Musk out of PayPal, basically.

 

And so they’re old rivals. You know, Peter Thiel was an early investor in Facebook. Peter Thiel is the dominant investor in Palantir, the number one contractor to the American Department of Defense and intelligence agencies in the software space, in AI, in surveillance, in this kind of thing. He’s kind of like the dominant billionaire.

 

Whereas Elon Musk is the biggest contractor to the US government in general. He’s basically running the space programme now. He’s controlling X, the most influential social media platform in politics, obviously, massive government subsidies going into Tesla. They’re both trying to be tech billionaires that aren’t just making money but are actually driving the direction of the American government.

 

And if you listen to both of them talk, they both have pretty complex political views and a vision for the future.

 

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GrokAI
5 days ago
JEWS ARE BEHIND MASS MIGRATION AND RACE MIXING!
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CreateAnArmyToSaveWhites
4 days ago
Wouldn’t that make you a Brown Supremacist?
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CreateAnArmyToSaveWhites
4 days ago
”Elite whites did nothing to stop the powerful Jews that sought to destroy them” Cool story bro.
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JFurM
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5 days ago
I’m kind of with Blair on the banning of social media, or at least heavily regulating its use… even though I will admit, I started to immediately rationalize why we should still keep social media around, crazy! And I totally know what Blair is talking about how men and women interacted prior to social media, graduated HS in 06 and it was so different than it is now. A reset back to human connection would definitely be a huge step in the right direction to better connect our people again.
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Gommy_Dob
3 days ago
I think the internet is a societal cancer, period, & I legit believe I could give a hundred different reasons why if I sat down & thought about it. I would 100% get rid of it outright if I was ever ruling over a territory. And yes, I spend too much time on the internet myself. About the only good thing it has done is undermine the media & education monopoly when we really needed it. And just remember, the internet didn’t even exist in a popular capacity until 25 years ago, nor did it exist when Western civilisation was at its peak. It’s not something that is required for high civilisation. Just a few below: – Blair implied it was good for business but on the flipside, online shopping harms local business, feeding the globocorp beast, & encourages a sedentary lifestyle & lack of IRL social interaction for consumers. – Social media is not only addictive & harmful in itself, but again, encourages sedentary lifestyle & lack of IRL social interaction for the consumer, which also feeds into atomisation in a collective sense. – It globalises culture itself, you’re no longer focused on your immediate surroundings in your own nation. – Physically, beyond encouraging sedentary lifestyle, it also encourages harmful postures. – Mass access to porn (mass harm to both males & females), including children being exposed to it at a young age. Think about how dramatic of a change this is to pre-internet sexual development & interaction, even when considering post-legalised porn but still pre-internet sexual development & interaction. Also encouraging exponentially increasing production of it, which is where the female harm comes in more. – Shortens attention spans, makes people less intelligent, studies on smartphone usage among children show disturbing results. – Has allowed global movement of people to be streamlined, can attract scab & expansionist labour & foreign investors & consumers by advertising straight into their living rooms.
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Relikt
5 days ago
Blair instinctually takes the National Socialist position on the trades. Joel’s derision of manual labor and manual laborers is incompatible with historic National Socialism. Read Darre’s Peasantry as the Lifeblood of the Nordic Race.
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AllegianceMountain
2 days ago
thank you for the book reference reminder! Darre’s book has been on my list for a while now, and its high time i actually downloaded a pdf and settled my ass down w/ a cup of warm brew and applied myself. Good seamless transition from my recent Madison Grant rereading-ritual, it had been 2years since i read it, and found my copy under my bed while cleaning the room *salivating even now at fond memory*
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Seanybruv
5 days ago
I’m two years younger than you Blair and I also remember what life was like before social media and smart phones. Crazy that Joel is only a few years younger and he can’t. Shows how much things changed around 2010. I disagree with Joel that social media is just socialising on the internet. It’s not truly socialising at all.
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birdhouse456
1 day ago
My sister is 9 years younger and I was amazed at the differences between us. Maybe with the pace of technology and the acceleration of social change the differences going to come more quickly. Speaking to a high school principal and a day care manager, they could spot the changes in lockdown kids straight away, even babies. My neighbour babysits and she noticed little kids not walking when they should have. Scary stuff. The thing is the young don’t know what they don’t know. The memories are fading. My mother went to school in a horse and cart and had kerosene lights at home, and Nan had to boil water in the copper to wash the laundry. I remember visiting the farm and at bathtime water was scarce and the dirtiest went in last. Most people even my age would think that happened 150 years ago. I’m really glad I those experiences, it keeps things in perspective. People needed each other more back then.
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DaveScribe
5 days ago
Blair’s being humble & Joel’s being arrogant by ranking themselves as 7s.
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RoseRock444
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4 days ago
You think Joel rating himself a 7 is too high? Why is that?
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DaveScribe
4 days ago
Mullet with a Muslim beard isn’t a good look for a white man. He should really just cut his hair & keep his face shaved.
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Winstein_Synagoguehill
5 days ago
The “Lightning and Sun” reference and “man against the times” reference to AH was from Savitri Devi’s book “Lighting and Sun”. Very interesting theories by her.
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Motion937
4 days ago
One of the sexiest things about a woman is loyalty & a calm quiet demeanor. That is so incredibly rare in this day & time. I do not like talkative women. I do not find it cute. I find it obnoxious.
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GuidoSarduchi
19 hours ago
This is a very good observation. Im so use to the noise and hyperkinetic demeanor I have forgotten the allure of quiet humble beauty. I fear in particular, it is the white western woman who has succumbed to this. I can envision a quiet humble asian or persian beauty more prevalent than white. Fuck
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Jak_85
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5 days ago
Blaire was absolutely cooking this episode. His take at 1:57 was really important to think about. Along with the Dunbar number take that Joel gave a label to.
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Restlessdreams88
5 days ago
Segregate internet by country
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AvidFan
5 days ago
Great discussions. Hope you start to feel better soon, Blair.
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mharrison52
5 days ago
spitting on christains is a jewish tradition.
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AngloSaxon88
5 days ago
Social media exhausts people.
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TheShowgun
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5 days ago
Blair, i get that annoying pain in that area every few months. Been like that my whole life idk why to this day, but it goes away after a few days.
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Motion937
4 days ago
Looking “pretty” in a photo means nothing. The modern-day woman is repulsive on the inside. The value women used to have is nearly gone. As a result, so is our civilization. Those women don’ even care. It is unbelievable how selfish & useless people have become.
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ProvingNihil
3 days ago
Blair I agree with you women were different before social media took over. I’m 35 I remember how women use to be before the internet, idk now it just seems difficult to talk too them.
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Calemanni
5 days ago
It sounds like Blair has a lot of inflammation. He should try a high fat carnivore or keto diet for the anti-inflammatory effects.
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AngloSaxon88
5 days ago
You are absolutely right about woman and mens behavior on social media – jjews made it to turn us away from natural interaction within our own species, it means less white babies – I’m also old enough to remember the time before social media.
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Rumbolinawave321
2 days ago
This is for Blair especially, but for all the tribe…. Man proposes, GOD disposes… I hope you all read the Bible! No .matter how much you think you are doing well, if you get too proud you will be humbled!
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MORALDEFENCE
1 day ago
Graham Sewell Bosi Zaric Rothchild Schwab DNA COUSINS SUMERIAN-ARAB Cohen haplogroup mtDNA C16360G ORGANISED CRIME FAMILY Publications by FAMILY members proudly announcing they are Sumerian Rabisu Jewish Cohen’s Priestley bloodline Who have 100% genetically engineered SARS-COV-2 COVID19 ORF10 IMMUNITY CULLING HUMANITY AS GODS DIVINE WILL (NEEDING FAMILY PRIESTLEY HELP) It even contains the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH) – the sub-sub-clade of the so-called “Y-chromosomal Aaron,” the most recent common ancestor of the majority of the patrilineal Jewish priestly caste or kohanim, who in Biblical terms was the brother of Moses (Exod. 4:14). Today, about half of all kohanim conform to the CMH. https://clangrahamsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/House-GRAHAM-eBook.pdf
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MORALDEFENCE
1 day ago
Graham and Sewell Cohen Haplogroup J referenced above and below, cousins interbreeding Robert Sewell’s Genealogy Site – Falaise Roll, Recording the Companions of William Duke of Normandy at the Conquest of England, online at http://www.robertsewell.ca/falaise.html; What are the Jews? — Know thyself — William Sewell https://dokumen.pub/the-genealogical-science-the-search-for-jewish-origins-and-the-politics-of-epistemology-paperback-edition-9780226201405-0226201406-9780226154701-022615470x.html Logics of History: Social Theory and Social Transformation by William Sewell (how SUMERIAN-ARAB J2A COHEN HAPLOGROUP MTDNA C16360G Jews Infiltrate and Setup Nationalist Groups to control opposition and Target any real leaders)
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MORALDEFENCE
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Australian Nationalist Leader Thomas Sewell (cousin of both Jewish Professors) Professor Herb Sewell UK GOVERNMENT SARS-COV-2 COVID19 Recommendations THE SEWELL J2A COHEN HAPLOGROUP MTDNA C16360G IS 100% IMMUNE TO SARS-COV-2 COVID19 ORF10 GENETICALLY ENGINEERED CANT BIND TO THEM OR ANYONE WHO HAS EATEN HUMAN BRAINS PINEAL GLAND CONSUMPTION HAS THAT PART OF MTDNA CHANGED SO THE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS DNA-CNS INTERFACE REAL-TIME REMOTE CONTROL HUMAN DRONES WILL NOT WORK ON THEM ONLY THOSE THEY PLAN TO EAT Scientist warns UK not to rely on one dose of COVID vaccine Professor Herb Sewell https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/one-dose/102043/
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MORALDEFENCE
1 day ago
Living and serving in Israel-Palestine, with Richard Sewell the Dean of St George’s College, Jerusalem https://embraceme.org/podcast/in-conversation-with-richard-sewell The morning of her conversion to Judaism, Diana Sewell was so nervous she “was running around like a headless chicken” in her Australia home. her rabbi was dealing with computer difficulties. https://forward.com/news/359228/online-conversion-fulfills-a-dream-but-controversy-dogs-the-process/ If you share this with the Sewell Australian Nationalist they will instantly ban you, they are terrified the sheep they have made fools of will know the truth and hold them accountable https://t.me/joeldavis_x
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MORALDEFENCE
1 day ago
https://jewishdata.com/jewish_genealogy_search/Sewell/- http://www.robertsewell.ca/sewell.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220207120211/http://www.robertsewell.ca/falaise.html https://t.me/HCE_KAL/231
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katana17
5 days ago
[Joel Davis – The Chink Question – Jul 4, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/07/11/joel-davis-the-chink-question-jul-4-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activist Joel Davis goes solo and discusses: the Melbourne homosexual childcare worker charged with raping eight babies and toddlers; history of the Chinese communist party; the possibility of war with China over Taiwan; Covid likely being an American attack on China; the need for Aussie Whites to join the movement.
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ProletAryan
5 days ago
cos everyone knows Australia doesn’t have enough overregulation and taxes!
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walmartgolem
4 days ago
Melbourne is starting to resemble New York in the 70s/80s.
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fdgrdfg
4 days ago
I like Blair’s take on social media
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leibekohne
4 days ago
When you are robed Banks give you money if your bank card was stolen but no one give you back if you cash is stolen. Communist Police does nothing.
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leibekohne
4 days ago
non whites who work you tax them ex. 60-90 % who does not work you cut all social benefits, they will leave alone. No property sell allowed, no transfer of money.
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theunbeholden
2 days ago
Grok went mecha Ah? Someone must have transcribed Europa Last Battle.
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wyrdweasel
2 days ago
Historically if the guilty party was of breeding age, execution for serious offences used to carry the added bonus of removing their bloodline from the gene pool.
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KINGMAGNUSMUISC
2 days ago
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA
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ggfr4nces
2 days ago
Blair is so f*cking funny in this one. Man is nuts
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drcheese1987
1 day ago
definitely just your average Frankston bogan chucking a fat skid on a Friday night with the boys, nothing out of the ordinary
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drcheese1987
1 day ago
I play cricket purely ro flex on pajeets funny enough it’s the same club Rukshan played for
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StevenGurr
1 day ago
A lot of non whites have a European passport, they would need to be fucked off too
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blahblahtheclown34
1 day ago
something happens but ultimately nothing happens, nothing will ever happen
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blahblahtheclown34
1 day ago
nothing happened
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BrossefStalin
21 hours ago
You always talk about how Australia is some defiant country but you guys are just as cucked as every other Western country
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southdublinzoomer
18 hours ago
Politicians know they would eventually be on the receiving end of capital punishment if they ever reintroduced it. What they are doing to us and future unborn white generations is exponentially worse than any isolated instance of sexual crime.
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GuidoSarduchi
16 hours ago
You said it, men following sports and buying jerseys are “spastics”. 2 wheeled motorsports is where its at. Motocross, enduro, GNCC racing, dakkar. If it has to be a team sport, than hockey
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jsmith980234
5 hours ago
There’s a White guy on X (permabulla) who says he worked on the Grok team and posted a screenshot showing how he added something to the code that enabled it to give responses without regard to being politically correct. He was fired afterward. That’s where Mechahitler came from.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Live. It is the 26 September 2024. Another episode of the show.

 

We’re back on Twitter. We had an incredible viewership on Twitter last week. We got way more views on Twitter than we get on any other platform. But our Rumble audience sustained. We got the same amount of views on the Rumble stream as we did the week before. Plus all these extra Twitter views. A big expansion of the audience just from broadcasting to Twitter now.

 

So as I said last week, I can’t believe we didn’t do this earlier, but it’s really nice to get that kind of response. And it feels like the show, man, I remember going back to last year when my YouTube was banned. We had a Joel and Blair show YouTube account that was banned. Then my YouTube was banned. I think Blair got a YouTube account banned as well. So we got hammered! We got completely wiped out on YouTube, and that was a real blow.

 

And then we were shunted onto Rumble. And we were already on Odysee and Cozy, but we’re shunted onto Rumble and we have to build up from scratch on Rumble.

 

And then this year, we got the Rumble audience back up to where it peaked on YouTube and then actually went past the peak YouTube audience. So we grew the show bigger on Rumble than it ever was on YouTube, and that felt like an achievement.

 

And then we then just now added a Twitter audience that then more than doubled the audience that we already had. So being de-platformed off YouTube has never been this good. Fuck YouTube! We don’t need YouTube. We’re now pulling, you know, three times the audience for the show that we were pulling when we were on YouTube a year ago. So that feels really good that we were able to withstand that hit. That really sucked at the time. And it felt a lot., … You know, if you told me a year in a year’s time, the show will have three times as many viewers, even though you’re still banned from YouTube, I would have probably not believed you. So kudos to everyone tuning in. Feels really good that we were able to basically take that blow and keep soldering on. Fuck YouTube! Fuck Google! Fuck ZOG! Hail Elon Musk! Hail our people!

 

But anyway, let’s get into the show. Blair, you want to? It’s grand final weekend here in Australia, and that means for Victorians, we don’t have to go to work tomorrow. So that’s pretty sick. But sports ball is kind of gay. I’m sure they’ll do some, like, gay abo [Aboriginal] shit at the beginning and maybe some just gay actual gay shit as well. Sometimes they Chuck that in with the gay abo shit! So I won’t be watching it. I don’t give a fuck about it! But you had some thoughts.

 

Blair Cottrell: Big sports ball weekend. That’s what we’re about to experience, especially in Victoria. Victoria was the birthplace of the Australian Football League [AFL] or Aussie Rules football.

 

So everyone’s looking forward to four days off. The holidays begin tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is the sort of sporting experience, sports ball experience. And then I think Monday people get off as well. And there’s a real retard vibe out there. I just went to the gym and got home a little bit late and people are driving erratically, lining up at bottle shops, takeaway food shops and just getting in the way and being more retarded than usual. And it’s because this is the last day they had to work before sportsball weekend. So they’re just very excited for that reason and more retarded than usual for that reason as well.

 

A little bit frustrating for me because I’m completely disconnected from the public consciousness. I’m able to feel it, but I’m not connected to it. I’m still removed, so I can observe it, I can sort of read it, but it doesn’t rub off on me so much and I just want to go about my business as normal. But not everyone is as cynical as I am.

 

So I’m not trying to say you can’t enjoy your football. Like, we have a big sporting culture in Australia and I come from an AFL family myself, so I can appreciate it. Some watch, some somewhat. There’s a certain sort of soldierly aspect to the football player. They do do a lot of intensive training and they do have a lot of personal pride and team pride, like that sort of camaraderie, you might say that similar to like a battalion, or a political group like the like you boys are involved in.

 

So I can appreciate it, I can respect it. But the average peasant that sort of goes to the sports ball games and gets all hysterical and drunk and who looks forward to drinking a lot and taking a lot of drugs on sportsball weekends, they’re out in force right now and it’s just a little bit annoying.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think there’s something special about it. Whenever you talk to non-Whites and they mention Australian culture, it’s the first thing that they do mention. They say:

 

“Oh, yeah, foottie and beer and meat pies.”

 

And look, I think football can be saved. I think certainly when we take state power we can certainly de-commercialise football, refocus on its localness and we can do a lot for football. We can make sports ball great again, certainly.

 

And as you said, there’s a martial component to it which is valuable. Australian soldiers were so highly regarded in the First and Second World War because we’re like a footy nation, like we’re a sporting nation and the Germans, the British. There’s lots of historical accounts of commentary on how Australian and New Zealand soldiers were of great stock and just great physical composition. And a lot of it is due to better diet and better exercise. So and just being a new colony as well. But I won’t get too caught up in that.

 

[05:34]

 

But what I will say about the weekend is I think the whole experience that go like, because I talk to the guys that work about, I am connected to it in the sense that everyone I work with, I’m the alien. Everyone I work with is obsessed with football. And I don’t want to get too like a psychoanalysis on it, but there’s something about the process, the ecstasis and the catharsis. There’s something about cheering and being disappointed or cheering and being happy at the end. There is some sort of strange spiritual, there is a metaphysics to it, certainly, that they, that does exist within the psyche of the majority of the population that should be nurtured and taken care of in a positive way. Obviously it’s been commercialised. It’s been made gay and pro-aboriginal and all this sort of nonsense! So obviously it’s been hijacked.

 

My main criticism of the nationalists that came before us is in Australia is their lack of, and I mean before us. I’m talking about the generation before. It’s not five years before we came on the scene, but the people that were around 30, 40 years before UPF [United Patriots Front] existed, or we came on the scene, they should have focused on AFL. If they had focused in the seventies and eighties on politicizing AFL for the Right-wing and bringing about a will to power and making that a central part of Australian nationalism back then, the movement as a whole would be just so well established. Because in Europe we have these intergenerational nationalists, intergenerational families of nationalists that did this at the end of the Second World War.

 

And a lot of the firms in England and a lot of the hooligan clubs in Europe, most of them are National Socialists or fascists or just very, very Right-wing. And that took a long time to develop that culture, that subculture within the football. And football in Europe is very political! But in America and Australia it’s very gay! It’s very anti-political. It’s very depoliticised to the point where it’s just anti-White. It’s so non-political that they’re then in the absence of a political nature of the sport, the state apparatus and the corporate state apparatus have managed to infiltrate and put their astroturf, fake culture, not a grassroots nationalist culture, which is what it should be.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s modern day coliseum. It’s just the coliseum. There’s a tribal aspect to the energy there. It’s something we’ve failed to tap into politically, but not entirely. We did take a banner to the footy once, remember? Probably 2016, I think that was.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that caused such an hysterical reaction from the AFL official community. I mean, like the AFL administrative officers, because they couldn’t believe that someone had the guts [chuckling] to actually walk in there with a Right-wing banner and display it right in front of the scoreboard in front of everyone in the middle of a game!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: And they realised that they can’t actually stop people from doing that. Like, all we did was put that banner under my shirt. I just wore a baggy jacket and I walked in and paid for my ticket.xLike, anyone. And how are they able to identify everyone who’s going in there? That’s a lot. There’s like hundreds of how many people. Tens of thousands of people going into that.

 

Joel Davis: Especially if you larp as a fat guy!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, that’s actually exactly what I did. What was the game? It was Essendon versus.

 

Thomas Sewell: Collingwood.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, yeah. And I bought an oversized Collingwood jacket. I didn’t even support Collingwood just to conceal the banner and I never wore it again. I don’t know what happened to that jacket. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Your dad’s probably got it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe, [chuckling] but Dad tends to wear the baggier jackets. He’s of that generation.

 

But the point was there’s no way they can actually stop us doing stuff like that. I’m kind of disappointed that no one’s done anything like that since. And even in us, I suppose, for not replicating that kind of activity. But who knows? Plenty of potential for that in the future.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’ll get back to it. We’re just trying to build up the footy boy culture at the moment. So it’s important, I think, for there to be an innate organic culture of people that already go to the footy.

 

And so we’ve recruited a lot of people this year and probably 5% are avid football fans, which is an improvement from the 0% that we’ve had in the past. Most people that we’ve recruited over the years have wanted nothing to do with AFL, just because of its de-politicisation and its anti-White nature.

 

But now that we’re becoming larger as a movement, we are starting to tap into a bit more sportsball fans, which is good. I actually appreciate that. I want that. I want to build a subculture of people that like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, we’ve definitely been too dismissive of football fans as though they’re beneath our politics for some reason, which is a little bit arrogant, I think we should really be tapping into the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s got to be a class marriage, there’s got to be a class marriage and there’s different classes of politically active people. And what we need to focus on. We’ve been a Spearhead for a long time. We need to focus on, “inclusivity” is a bad dirty word these days, but we do need to focus on mobilising further classes of political agency.

 

[11:00]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think I understand the take. Though, when people say:

 

“Oh, look at all these grown men giving so much emotion and concern for some football team, but they put absolutely zero time, effort, resources or emotion into saving their nation or the existential threat that our people feel.”

 

And I do have that contempt myself. I do understand it.

 

So I get that. But you said this before, Tom, and I agree we kind of need to pick one team and put all the racist energy behind them and make them the racist team.

 

And so all the Lefties, like, start hating that particular team and then they become notorious. And then young racists get, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s already happened to some degree, like the wogs*. The wogs notoriously support Carlton. Carlton’s notoriously supported by wogs. And Collingwood is like the team of the White Aussie Bogans. So that already organically took place to some degree.

 

[* Wog is a racial slur used to refer, in British English, to black and South Asian people, and, in Australian English, to people from the Mediterranean region. Whilst it is extremely derogatory in British English, in Australian English it may be considered non-offensive depending on how the word is used, due to reclamation and changing connotations. Wikipedia]

 

Thomas Sewell: And St Kilda is the team of the coke snorting builders.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: I remember a friend of ours, Patrick O’Sullivan, shout out to Patrick O’Sullivan.

 

Thomas Sewell: Shout out to the Reverend!

 

Joel Davis: Hail Combat 18 and death to ZOG!

 

Anyway, he said that back in the day, St Kilda, because St Kilda is a very jewish area in Melbourne. It’s like one of the most jewish suburbs of Melbourne for those who are foreigners and don’t know. Their football team, it actually has the red, white and black.

 

So it’s the same colours as, like the Imperial German colours. And the jews got very upset about this and lobbied for it to be changed and obviously it was unsuccessful. So that’s kind of like a funny piece of history.

 

But yeah, I think we got to pick a team and make them the Nazi team. I don’t know which team it is, but like when we figure it out, let me know. I’ll buy all the gear, I’ll wrap it and, … It’ll happen organically.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll happen organically.

 

Joel Davis: I’ll be a watching the games. And yeah, I’ll get into, …

 

Blair Cottrell: [words unclear] Victorian thing.

 

Thomas Sewell: A series of players and they’ll refuse to do the latest jargon, whatever the latest political humiliation ritual is. Eventually, like we saw with that Welcome to Country recently, was that the semi-final or the preliminary?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think so.

 

Thomas Sewell: And how many of those players were looking at the ground or scoffing. So the body language is already like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s already resisting.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, there is a resistance and all it’s going to take is one, similar to, there was a scandal probably five or six years ago with an islander rugby player that didn’t he say something on Facebook about how like:

 

“Fags aren’t going to heaven.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Folau or Falou?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he said something on Facebook like:

 

“Gays aren’t going to heaven.”

 

Joel Davis: He’s a Mormon.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And then the NRL tried to remove him and then I think he took them to court. I can’t remember whether he won or lost, but that set a really important precedence that you can stand up to these institutions and there is going to be a lot of support from the public and it is worth dragging it through the courts. It is worth not necessarily being a political Martyr, but it is worth taking a stand, win or lose.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it would be good to, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll happen again.

 

Joel Davis: Like if, like one of these teams, if they do like a mass walk off of the Welcome to Country, then, okay, we’ll get behind them. NSN will be at the next game. [chuckling] We’ll be there shaking around the scarves or whatever.

 

But I guess one thing about AFL, which is good is that it is a very White sport. Like if you watch the English Premier League or the NFL or like the equivalent in other countries, which they are, there’s a lot of non-Whites. Like, it’s almost majority non-White, I would say, like these leagues. I know they’re completely different sports. But AFL is like even that now they’re starting to bring some blacks into its still like 95% White.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re doing programs. So if you’re Aboriginal or black, you’re, they’re being hyper selected. There’s a lot of programs at the moment for Sudanese youth and for Aboriginal youth to just play footy full-time. They’re just trying to astroturf the sport full of brown people. There’s no such thing for Whites, for White kids. If you’re a twelve year old, 14 year old, you’re a White kid at high school, there’s no programme for you to just play footy full-time.

 

But when I was doing Resi-care because all the kids on paper were written down as Aboriginal, even though they weren’t, they all had these openings. They all could, because they weren’t going to school anyway. So they can just go to this like, this football thing. Especially in the Northern Territory and wherever, like there’s like refugees being sent. And the purpose of it is to inorganically stack the AFL. To basically branch stack it. They basically want to branch stack it. They want to fudge the statistics, they want to fudge the representation.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you reckon the way Australian football, like the rules are set up, it makes it a sport that’s kind of favours the Anglo Saxon predisposition, genetic predisposition, because it’s not just endurance, but you need ball skills, team skills, you need to work together as a unit. There’s a great deal of discipline that goes into being a professional footballer in that field.

 

[16:24]

 

Thomas Sewell: I wouldn’t say Anglo Saxon. I would say, and it’s ironic that it is your exact racial description. I would say it favours Celto-Nordics. I would say it’s a sport that favours the Nordic, the traditional German racial classification of what Nordics are and favours, I think. And it’s, and it comes from a Celtic background. I mean, its origin is a modified version of Gaelic football, which again, was a martial art designed by the Celts to maintain an army under British occupation. Basically all Celtic sports were built like that.

 

And that’s why we did it. That’s why we’ve done it for a long time, why it’s absolutely crucial we continue to do it.

 

And obviously because it favours the longer, the longer tendon and limb length. You know, most footballers are quite tall and long limbed, like all sort of running and throwing sports. Yeah, they’re lean, they’re endurant. It doesn’t necessarily favour like kind of Denarids or lower Saxons or like short, stocky guys or mountainous people. It doesn’t really suit that kind of type. It suits the kind of Nordic plain runners. So and, but there’s that type. There’s that build. There’s that AFL build in almost every race except probably Asians. There is that build. But obviously, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, there’s no Chinaman playing AFL.

 

Thomas Sewell: No. And obviously there’s a lot of reasons for that, but, yeah, they certainly don’t organically have that kind of build. It’s suited or Celto-Nordics. And unfortunately, Central Africans. Central Africans are going to be very good at it if they can stack enough of them with it.

 

So if they can run programs to promote Central Africans,

 

Joel Davis: Which they are.

 

Thomas Sewell: West Africans are too fast, twitch. They’re probably better for rugby and power sports. And East Africans are too endurant, they’re too brittle. So, but Central Africans are a hybrid of the two. So they would actually make good AFL players if the sport was to be played over there, unfortunately. That doesn’t mean I’m not a racist anymore! That’s just a genetic fact.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, family members of mine that have been draughted and have played in the past, they’re all long limbs sprinters, jumpers, lean endurance. So that there’s something to what you’re saying for sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And what the advantage of the Whiteman is, it’s just that we’ve got the brain on the sporting field or on the battlefield. The Whiteman didn’t conquer Africa or these other continents because we’re like infinitely physically superior in terms of muscle mass or strength, although we’re definitely a lot better than Indians. Indian men have lower upper body strength than White women. That’s a fact. Which is, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Even grip strength.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, yeah. Upper body strength, grip strength.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s interesting because that makes them bad rapists! You’d think that’d be like, …

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s why they’re gang rapists.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh right! They need to work together. I see, I see.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s how their continent works.

 

But, yeah, certainly the reason why we’ve been such great conquerors and the reason why we also, as a race, good sportsmen or kind of obsessed with sports is more to do with the tactics involved in the sport. You don’t win by just being more athletic than the opposition. You win by having better teamwork and better communication. And that’s where the Whiteman excels.

 

So when you take away all the White coaches and all the White culture and all the White establishment around these English soccer teams, for example, and it’s just Africans coaching Africans. They’re not going to be as good as the White team. You know, they’re only good because they’re propped up.

 

I think Hitler says something in Mein Kampf about how you can basically, you can teach an African to do an opera or to be a conductor, or you can teach an African to play a musical instrument and do jazz, or you can teach an African to be a politician, even. Like one day they might in France. I think he makes like this little subtle mock of the French saying, like:

 

“One day there’ll be African politicians in France. They’ll manage to teach one like that.”

 

But ultimately it’s still a Whiteman that taught him to do that. So that’s an important distinction. That’s straight MK, that’s straight Mein Kampf. That’s important to know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Straight Pastor Manning too. Remember Pastor Manning? He said:

 

“Talk to a black man. I don’t care! He could be an astrophysicist, or a doctor. You talk to him. He’s got no fucking sense!”

 

I [chuckling] remember that Pastor Manning. If no one’s seen Pastor Manning, it’s kind of an old meme now, but it’s still a good laugh if you can find it.

 

Thomas Sewell: The only sense Africans make is when they’re talking about women, especially their own women. They understand their own women very well.

 

Blair Cottrell: And is that why they avoid them? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: [chuckling] That’s why they make good comedians, because they usually just complain about women and they’re really funny when do it, because it’s just spot on! They know exactly what’s going on there. Because they’re operating on a lower Chakra. Their masters of like the lowest dimension because that’s where they live. That’s where they’re always gyrating and moving their hips around because all their energy is actually in their, … They don’t have any higher Chakra.

 

Joel Davis: The use the word “arse” to describe everything.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, everything’s “arse, shit”.

 

Joel Davis:

 

“Yo, arse! Oh, yeah, I saw y’all arse down the street. You know what I mean?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. Between their dick and their ass, that’s where all their energy is. That’s why their pants are saggy. Like, they crip walk. All their energy is down there. So they understand that realm quite well because that’s where they live. They live in the shit!

Blair Cottrell: Harsh [chuckling] but fair! Yeah, well, look, we’ve begun by talking about football. We’ve unbelievably segued into a racial discussion. What are we going to bring it back to, what’s our next subject?

 

Joel Davis: Let’s actually get into like the bread and butter of the show this evening because we’ve done a little bit of waiting for people to get in.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s 1, 300 viewers and we’re just talking about sportsball. It’s hilarious!

 

Joel Davis: No, so let’s, what I wanted to discuss tonight, and it will bridge into another aspect of this, but I want to discuss the principle of building nationalism from the ground up. That’s what I titled the stream.

 

We’ve covered this kind of thing on the show before, but I think this is important to go back over and discuss it between three of us, because that’s basically what we’re trying to do. We believe that, not necessarily happy about it, that we have to build nationalism from the ground up. We would like to be able to cut the line. We’d like to be able to build it from the top down or skip a few stages ahead.

 

But we don’t see that as possible. We see that basically we’re in a position where we’re building from square one. Our ancestors have completely let us down and handed us down. They didn’t hand it a baton of anything. We’re like starting the race from the very beginning, from the very start line. And there’s a lot of people that agree with us on the problem. They agree with us that Whites are being replaced, Whites are being genocided. The jews are the primary enemy of our people.

 

But we’ve got all of these White traitors. We’ve got liberalism. We’ve got this kind of cucked humanitarian ideology permeating through our people that prevents us from seeing politics in the correct way. And that is kind of used, Holocaust narrative, colonialism narrative, et cetera, used to demonise us, demonise organising on behalf of White people. They’ll agree and have good talking points about on all these issues.

 

But then their view is that:

 

“Well, okay, but if we can just influence the conservative movement or if we can influence the current establishment and move into elite positions, there’s some way in which we can redirect the ship.”

 

And there’s all different kinds of approaches that more or less fit underneath these categories. And I would love that to be true!

 

A few years ago if I wind back the clock, you know, four years, five years, I thought more that maybe something like that could be possible and that maybe there would be elements of the elite that could be won over and that a strategy like that potentially could work. And I became disabused with that notion over time. And I’m sure you guys probably did as well at one point, have more of that kind of thought. Where you thought of more of a conservative mainstream political movement would be potentially enough.

 

But I think we’ve all seen enough and experienced enough, particularly in Australia. But this is true around the world where we don’t actually think that’s going to be possible. We realise that in order for White interests to be asserted politically, White people have to get organised from the grassroots! We have to come together at the absolute base foundation, bring our men together, bring our money together, and build from the ground up so that we can get to a position where we have enough power emanating from us as a people, independently from us as a people that isn’t subject to the Liberal ideology of the White traitors or to jewish interests or whatever, all these economic interests from people who profit from globalisation and the perpetuation of the status quo, but could instead, in a revolutionary way, assert White interests. Particularly and only because it’s fundamentally backed by White power, White people, White money for explicitly pro-White reasons. And that’s a very difficult thing to build. Because you’re trying to build from scratch against the hostile system. And it’s pretty hard to sell it at first. If you have a pre-existing institution, it’s easy to convince people to put their money and manpower and faith in it.

 

But when you’re starting from scratch and you only have a small amount of people and a dream and a vision, that’s quite difficult. But we see no other way. Because nothing exists in Australia that we can see that is filling that role. And so we’re basically starting from square one and trying to build something that could fill that role.

 

Blair Cottrell: What does starting from square one physically look like?

 

Joel Davis: It physically looks like, I think step one is what we’re doing is just trying to get White men organised around the principle of a no compromise White nationalism a pure White nationalism, a pure pro-White position around the country. And they’re going to be paying dues into the same pot and bringing along their wives and girlfriends and bringing their mates baby from work or something, or they went to school with. And we’re doing the streams like this. We’re putting the message out, we’re doing street activism and so on to put the message out:

 

“Hey, we exist! Hey, White Australia, someone’s going to stand on behalf of you! There’s actually another option than just passively accepting the kind of gradual genocide of our people and just trying to advance your own individual interests within the decaying and collapsing civilisation and a system that’s taking away more and more of your dignity and well being and your children’s future, piece by piece, every day. There is a resistance movement!”

 

As we grow larger, as we get more professional, that message will get louder, it will get more attractive, and we’ll bring in more and more people, and then they’ll make us able to make it louder and more attractive, and we’ll bring in more people and more resources and so on until we can swell to a size where we have enough men, and we have enough money and we’ve bought out a whole series of land, businesses. We’ve got people on the payroll of all these different specifications, and we have a parallel economy for our activists, so that we have a political party, we’re running political candidates, we’re full spectrum. We’re doing all the different functions. We’re doing a big conferences, we’ve got a sophisticated media arm and so on, where we are a serious, fully fledged, well funded political movement.

 

And when that exists, then we can present to White Australia a genuine political alternative. Like there is something else other than just voting for Liberal or Labour or maybe One Nation or the Greens, or something every four years. And that’s all politics is.

 

[28:48]

 

Blair Cottrell: I would like to see and contribute to, like manufacturing a popular counterculture from which we can siphon people. A counterculture that has working class Australians saying:

 

“Yeah, I’m a nationalist. Like, you got a problem with that? Fuck you!”

 

And the youth are saying:

 

“Yeah, I’m racist! Of course I’m racist. I’m not stupid!”

 

If we can create a counterculture like that, then people will say it’s kind of like, build it. And what do they say? If you build it, they will come. Yeah, yeah. So siphoning from a counterculture and helping, fostering, nurturing the growth of that kind of culture is the role I see myself playing personally.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. Well, the mission, the original mission statement for NSN, EAM has always been more of a community group focused on collating, collecting, and centralizing all the people that have this basic position. And that’s always been my main objective, is just:

 

“Okay, if you feel this way about the situation, let’s organise in real life.”

 

Because being on the Internet is not enough. And Jacob’s mission statement for NSN was, well, the first essay that he actually wrote and distributed through the NSN website, the original one before the jews had that one taken down, was about the nature of “metapolitics”, which is a word that gets thrown around a lot. Most people don’t understand it. But it’s about the idea that we need to make cultural changes or changes in the dialogue, changes in the dialectic, in the national conversation, if you want to call it that. There needs to be that change in how people perceive politics before this space, for political change. For actual political change, whether that’s Parliamentarian change or that’s change within the state apparatus. But there needs to be, first that culture shift. That needs to be. Yeah, I’ve already explained it. I won’t repeat it again, but that’s an important concept. You kind of have to go through a meta-political, grassroots focus.

 

Likewise with what I’ve always been focusing on. The strategy, not necessarily always, but since 2017, is about building loyalty at that grassroots level. What does grassroots nationalism look like to me? Well, it looks like loyal groups of men at a local level. And when all the loyal groups of men at a local level can meet up with each other, and then they can network with groups of men that aren’t necessarily local to them on a rare occasion, whether it’s once every month or once every three months or once a year, then you start to have some sort of political agency.

 

And this is why the jews have power. They don’t have power just because they have money. They have money because they have mobilisation and organisation power. Money is not the source of their power. Money is the medium of their power. Their power comes from their organisation. They organise together. They have synagogues.

 

Blair Cottrell: Their power comes from their racism, you might say.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the power comes from their racism, which drives their mobilisation and organisation. Their racial consciousness, or their religious and racial consciousness breeds their, hyper selects, their organisational skills.

 

Blair Cottrell: And the most fundamental way that they can actually eliminate threats to their own community in that regard, or even ensure no one can challenge them, is to attack people in the most fundamental way, which is preventing other forms of racism from taking root.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like racism in different communities.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. If you can defeat racism in other groups, then you’re the dominant group.

 

And likewise, once you’ve defeated racism in other groups, then you can attack their ability to mobilise. So any group, like, of White people that are mobilising, but they’re not racist, well, then you can then enforce diversity quotas on them. You can say:

 

“Oh, you’re not racist. Well, how about you have some more refugees over here? And why aren’t you teaching the curriculum at your schools?”

 

Or, you know, any attempt you have at building parallel society without being explicit, is kind of like a temporary situation where you’re eventually going to meet your political, you’re going to hit a political brick wall, where, … A better way of putting it is you’re going to eventually meet your small Rubicon. You’re going to meet a, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You’ll hit an existential brick.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Your whole existence will be cancelled out and changed.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. If you don’t cross that Rubicon, if you don’t go:

 

“Well, actually, this is the moment where our group are, …”

 

Whether it’s some sneaky project or not, at some point, you’re going to hit that Rubicon where it’s like you either cross the river and take back Rome, or you just, you stay forever on the other side, and you’re just attacked and attritioned into the abyss.

 

[33:42]

 

So I think it’s very important that, and I took some notes earlier, for people to really understand what strategy they should use, they should first assess what is going on with Western civilisation and what is going on with the White race. And the shortest way I can explain it is we’re going through a civilisational death, but death in itself is paired with life. It’s paired with rebirth. So death in itself, we can be black pilled about and we can say:

 

“Oh, it’s so sad that Western civilisation is collapsing.”

 

Or we can say:

 

“Well, hang on a minute. It’s lived its life cycle. It’s time for it to be reborn. Now, because it’s dying. It’s full of traitors, it’s full of cancer, it’s full of asbestos, it’s full of anything that’s basically attacking the healthy organs.”

 

And even though the organism is itself, the shell of the organism is dead, or at least very seriously dying, there are still healthy living parts within the cell.

 

And if you understand how a Venn diagram looks, my belief is that the cell needs to duplicate elsewhere. I don’t believe you can reform something that’s dead. You have to be revolutionary. You have to extract on a long enough timeline, you have to extract everything that is living, everything that is still healthy and beautiful and noble and upright. You have to extract that from the current civilisation and put it somewhere else, in a different space. It needs space. It needs distance. I call it authority through exclusion. Joel calls it the pathos of distance or space, but it needs to be separate, needs to be physically separate, culturally separate, even linguistically separate. It needs to be a completely separate entity. And eventually with separate borders as well, at a national level as a nation state.

 

And so this is not an immediate process. This civilisational mitosis, where it’s a single body like this, we’re all mixed into one and all atomized and alienated all in one. And for it to split into two different cells and we allow the other one to die on its own weight. It’ll fight of course, it’ll fight. It’ll have a, an attempt at dragging us down into hell with it, and we just have to not go down into hell with it. And if that means we have to fight it, then it means we have to.

 

Blair Cottrell: This has arguably happened organically with separation of certain groups from the motherland in England to America and Australia.

 

But as you said, there wasn’t an explicit enough understanding of a racial consciousness and identity, at least not a unified one, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s happening also at a micro scale with White flight. Everyone’s already organically doing a it. And that’s important. You know, people overuse the statement, “I’ll lean into it”. What’s it, what does that look like? Okay, let’s lean into it. So we all just, we all just run away forever. We can’t do that forever, can we? But we do recognise that there is an energy where there’s healthy people within the system that are doing everything they can to kind of be slightly outside the system, and we have to continue to promote that culture.

 

And this is where the primary schism comes from between the two strategies, the reformists and the revolutionaries.

 

The reformists say, don’t do that! That’s downwards, backwards social mobility:

 

“Don’t do that! You should become a lawyer, you should get involved with the Liberal Party. Rah, rah, rah!”

 

And look, I’m sure there’s some talented people that can do that, and good on them and good luck with them. But on a long enough timeline, the Liberal Party is controlled, as Joel mentioned last show, by jews! It’s controlled by jewish money. And if we don’t mobilise and organise on explicitly racial lines, which means not reform, it means revolutionary strategy.

 

The only way for infiltration to work is actually just simply to support for people that exist within the system to support the mitosis. That’s really the only way infiltration will work, is to use their skills and their resources from within the decaying system to help rebuild the next system. And that takes a lot of money and takes a lot of skills and a lot of knowledge. And we don’t want to lose that knowledge. So it’s good that people are getting highly skilled jobs. It’s good that people are staying within the system, but their motivation for staying within the system should be to extract as much wealth and knowledge as they can and then let it die. Let it die and move across!

 

And the last point that I’ll finish on before I hand the mic back over is, why won’t the elites back us? Why won’t the elites back us? They’re never going to back us until the last minute! Because its grassroots!

 

Since World War Two, everything’s reset. And what Hitler went through is a microcosm of what the world is going through now. The first people to support Hitler were the working class, were the ex-soldiers, were the homeless, were the mentally ill veterans. Those are the first people that helped Hitler. The lowest people! Yes, there were some brains, there were some academics, there were some spokespeople, some Thule and Vril. You know, there was a little bit of esoteric. There was people that were doing this for some time and hadn’t made it with their politics because the time wasn’t right and they didn’t have someone like Hitler. So they backed him and they helped him.

 

So he had some good advisors in his corner. But ten advisors in your corner don’t make a movement. It’s thousands of men with the good energy, with good faith! And those are the first people he attracted. Then he won over the middle class, then he won over the upper middle class. And then right at the last minute, he started winning over intellectuals, philosophers, Professors at the university, judges, media people.

 

And eventually the old money! The old stock money. The people that own the steelworks, the people that own the coal. But this is all in the last year or two. The people that built the movement were working class and middle class people, in that order.

 

So what grassroots nationalism looks like globally, across the West, across all White countries, is it looks like World War Two is over. Allegedly. Hitler’s lost. Allegedly. And we’re back to square one.

 

And so who were the people that kept the fire lit from 1945 through to basically us? Who were the only people? There’s a few intellectuals. Of course, we can name ten or 15 intellectuals, but the people that kept the fire lit were fucking football hooligans, working class bogans, tatted up to the eyeball, skin heads, …

 

[39:58]

 

Blair Cottrell: People were most emotionally invested or with the capacity to be emotionally invested.

 

Thomas Sewell: But also it was the people that had the least to lose. And how Hitler took power was the people with the least to lose were like:

 

“Fuck it! Mask off. Let’s do it!”

 

And then eventually they built enough numbers of that they started moving up the social strata.

 

So this whole process of how we’re going to take power, the elites will join us when it’s in their interests, and then when they’ve got nothing left to lose! When the Marxists are at the door, when the communists are at the door, when they’re about to lose everything! And it’s basically us or lose everything, then all of a sudden we look really attractive, and they’re like:

 

“Actually, I’ve been sympathetic the whole time. Can have a party pin, please?”

 

And that’s what happens in the last twelve months before you take power.

 

So don’t expect any elites to back us anytime soon! We’ve got a long road ahead.

 

Joel Davis: It’s important. This, this is a point that for some reason, so many people can’t get through their fucking head! And it’s so simple. Which is that they think that we need to go to people that have a lot of money right now and get their money. Otherwise, we can’t build a political movement. In the example you just gave of the NSDAP, they got 80% of the way there just on like, the rank and file donations of their members. And that made them a serious and the biggest political party in Germany.

 

And then the big money started coming in right at the end. There’s a great book written by Henry Ashby Turner* called, I think it’s called The Rise of Adolf Hitler and Big Business, or something akin to that. And he details this. And he completely destroys in that book this Marxist nonsense, that National Socialism was funded by the capitalist elite to stop the communists or something. It’s just total bullshit! It’s not true historically. And I think, actually we should probably do a podcast on that book one day and go through it, because it’s a fantastic book, and I would like to reread it, and there’s a lot of really valuable stuff in it.

 

[* Henry Ashby Turner, Jr. Was an American historian of Germany who was a Professor at Yale University for over forty years. He is best known for his book German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler in which he challenged the common theory that industrialists in Germany were the Nazi Party’s most influential supporters. Wikipedia]

 

But putting that to one side. Just think about it like this. If you have 10,000 people, 10,000 Australians, and there’s 10,000 already White Australians that watch our streams and know who we are and follow us on social media, at least there’s more than 10,000. But you got 10,000. And they all put in $20 a week. Everyone can afford $20 a week. It’s fuck all! It’s like you go out to get a feed, and it costs more than that it’s nothing. You just have dinner at home one night instead of going out. And that’s basically $20 a week. That is $10 million a year. Just that.

 

There’s 100,000 Australians. There’s more than 100,000 Australians that are White nationalists, that have White nationalist opinions. If 100,000 White Australians put in $20 a week, which is fuck all, anyone, even if you’re on fucking Centrelink, you can put $20 a week in. That’s 100 grand a year. [$2,000,000] That’s enough to have a political campaign and compete for political power.

 

Like, I’d be interested to see how much money the Greens are pulling in. I reckon they probably would not even have our operational budget of $100 million a year. I reckon they probably pay less than that’s the third biggest political party in Australia, right?

 

So that’s just a hundred thousand people putting in $20 a week. It’s actually very feasible. There’s already 100,000 White nationalists in Australia, in my opinion. Like, at least! There’s more.

 

So the idea that you can’t build a political movement with the grassroots is just wrong. You can actually. If everyone chips in a little bit, it adds up very quickly. And you can compete with the big money, you can compete with the big property lobbyists and the business lobbyists and so on. And that’s a very measly sum. That’s a number I pulled out of my arse. And if you’ve got a political movement that’s already got that kind of money behind it, you can have a very sophisticated and professional outfit. And that’s going to attract the big money because it’s like:

 

“Okay, these guys are serious!”

 

So if we organise that first 10,000, and we work our way up to organising that first hundred thousand, and there are more than 100,000 White Australians that are ready to hear our message. There’s millions of White Australians that want to hear our message. If we organise just a fraction of them and get them organised and paying into the same pot, organised under the same leadership we can become one of the one of the big forces in Australian politics and start throwing our weight around in a serious way. It actually isn’t, like that complicated. It actually isn’t that crazy to think.

 

So people need to understand there is a lot of power and value in the grassroots, in that five to 10% of Aussies that are already basically ready to receive our message in almost its entirety. If we just focus on getting those guys organised, reaching those guys, getting them to show up to events, getting them to pay money into the same pot, getting them to respect one set of leaders and professionalise our output. We build a parallel economy to support our top activists, to withstand attacks from the system, and we make ourselves presentable. We have good propaganda. We ensure that we’re part of the conversation. Our message will sell itself. We’ve got a great message. There’s millions of White Australians ready to hear our message. And if you have a serious political movement putting our message forward, they will get behind it, they will back it.

 

So to me, it’s actually not that complicated. We don’t need magic billionaires to come in and save us. We don’t!

 

[45:39]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, there’s enough working class people with the resources. I mean, all you need is those weekly or monthly dues and you have enough members, enough card carrying members. They don’t have to be like, active physical participants, card carrying, paying members. Then you’ll have all the resources you need to grow that parallel community, I suppose.

 

Joel Davis: That’s the other thing as well about de-platforming. If you register as an official political party, you get there’s a whole bunch of protections, like legal protections that you get that prevent you from being de-platformed in, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Same as if you register as a religious group too, which is something that I’ve always argued would be beneficial for any Right-wing or nationalistic community group.

 

Joel Davis: And also there’s like, if you make a formal group, there’s like transparency and so on. The point is that there’s legal Avenues to set up a proper White nationalist outfit in this country. I don’t think almost anyone really has the political will to get the men in the room and get the people together, except us and our associates. I don’t see anyone else in Australia that putting a serious effort towards it.

 

So if you’re a serious White nationalist movement, either go and build something better than what we’re doing and show us how it’s done. And if you, if your shit takes off, well, we’ll go:

 

“All right! We’ll fucking come along and we’ll fucking put our guys and we’ll come along and do your thing.”

 

If you can do something that will work better than us, prove it! Make it, prove it and we’ll back you. Even if you do something that is worse than us, we’ll still give you some fucking support, because that’s how we just care about the movement.

 

There’s other organisations in the movement that we give one sided support to, and we don’t get a lot of support back, because we just want to see everything work. We want to see the movement grow. We actually just care about saving White people more than anything.

 

But we’re the guys that can get an actual serious amount of men together in this country over the next few years. If the people that are already following us and know who we are want to get behind it and give us their support, we can fucking do it! It’s just about the willpower, the determination.

 

The reason why the jews are winning. I posted about this on Twitter. One of the main reasons why they’re winning is very simple! It’s because jews put their money in to pro-jewish organisations. There’s all these jewish activist groups and jewish lobbyist groups and shit! The jews chip in! And yeah, there are some wealthy jews that put in serious dollars, but the jews put their money into pro-jewish organisations.

 

And so there’s all these big, powerful pro-jewish organisations that throw their weight around in politics and throw their weight around in the media. And the jews get what they want, nine times out of ten! We don’t do that. White Australians will do that. No White group does that.

 

And so we don’t ever fucking get what we want! It’s like, it’s very simple and there’s more to it than that. But it is a very large, basic component, White people are too fucking individualistic! Like, I made a tweet about this yesterday and this guy came back like:

 

“Oh, Joel, why don’t you go and start your own business and make the money yourself? Why are you e-begging?”

 

And I wasn’t even e-begging. I wasn’t requesting donations.

 

We need to get our act together, our organisation. We don’t even have things set up for anyone to fucking donate to us. We only take dues from our own members. We probably need to fix that.

 

We need to get better at that kind of thing. We don’t because we’ve got this culture of this anti-grifting culture, anti-money culture, this hyper individualistic White culture. We need to fucking get over that! ! We need to start putting our money together and building collective power.

 

Because if I go, all right, I’m going to go and start my own business. He’s like:

 

“Joel, you’re a smart guy. If you started your own business, you would be cancel-proof. You’d make all this money!”

 

Okay, I’ll go put fucking 70, 80 hours a week into starting my own business. And then there goes one of the only, like, four White nationalist political activists in this whole country that anyone knows who they are.

 

[49:51]

 

Blair Cottrell: You just end up working for the man to pay tax!

 

Joel Davis: Like, is that what you really want? We have, like, four. Okay, maybe there’s a few others. Like, I guess we could say five. I can name a few more. But there’s a small group of us that are the only, like, White nationalist political activists that from Australia that anyone even fucking knows who they are!

 

So do you really want us, … You know, would you want us building the fucking movement, or do you want us, like, what? Like, at some point you’re gonna have to fucking give us some fucking money! Not so that we can go and pay off our mortgage and live it up, but so that we can pay for the fucking movement! It’s gonna cost a lot of money for us to fucking get this shit together. So at some point, like, if you don’t trust us, that’s fine. I said in my tweet:

 

“Support someone.”

 

And I was talking internationally, there’s groups in other countries to support as well, if you’re from other countries.

 

But if you don’t want to support us, go find someone else to support them. But we’re going to have to put our money fucking somewhere. And you go and join them to give your manpower, give your hours, give your time. If we don’t put our money and our fucking time and our effort into the White nationalist movement in some fucking capacity, it won’t fucking exist!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, everyone subscribes, Joel. Everyone’s ready to subscribe to Netflix and Audible and Spotify. And they pay that subscription. It’s like, what? Some of them are $7 a month, some are $14 a month. Why not subscribe to White Australia? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, that’s all stuff that I’m working on the moment. So as I’ve said before in the past, we’re looking at streamlining everything, the whole operation. And what we’re looking at doing is integrating more of a supporter class of our movement.

 

So obviously, our expectations for people being involved is very high. And what I’m talking to the state leaders about is developing an apparatus that people can be involved. It’s actually quite interesting. I got a message, sadly, just as the stream was about to start from one of our new members, new recruits that’s looking to get involved. Who’s saying he can’t really be involved anymore. I just skimmed. I said:

 

“I’ll answer this question after the stream.”

 

But out of the last maybe 20 guys we recruited, one guy’s messaged me saying:

 

“Hey, look, it’s a big time commitment.”

 

Which it’s not, but I’ll address that later. Unless he’s watching, then he will understand it’s not a big time commitment. We’re not asking for much. But he’s saying that he doesn’t really want to engage in the activism and the training. He’d rather just donate a lump sum of money every month, more than what he’s already paying in dues, the $50. So I’ll address that with him when I get off the show.

 

But that is interesting timing, because that is actually something that we’ve been in discussions about in the last couple of months, and especially in the last couple of weeks, about how do we go about building that apparatus. So it’s still in a planning phase. I can almost guarantee by the end of the year, we will be in a situation where there will be a clear cut pathway.

 

What I need to do first is register as either an incorporated society or as an ethno-religious group. I need to register things on paper. Because the issue that we’re going to have when we start taking a lot of money, because we’ve done fundraisers in the past, and what the government’s trying to do is its trying to claim that that money is personal income.

 

So all the fundraisers that we’ve done, they don’t just shut down your bank accounts, they’re trying to asphyxiate you everywhere with everything! So we’ve raised a little bit of money from time to time, especially for things like legal fees. If we’re starting to take in massive amounts of money, like we recently raised 16 grand on GiveSendGo for the deposit on the farm that we’re trying to get. And that money was all refunded to everyone, and everyone’s really upset about that.

 

But look, when we put the fundraiser back up, I’m sure it will fast pass $16,000 when it goes back up. But where does that money go when that 16 grand is cashed out from the website? If it goes to my personal bank account, the government’s going to take probably close to half of it. So I need to set up the infrastructure to have everything above board and legal so that we can then start taking in. Because 16 grand is nothing as I was saying before, and as Joel was saying, you know,

 

Blair Cottrell: Was that GiveSendGo Tom? Was that GiveSendGo that actually refunded everyone’s money?

 

Thomas Sewell: That was GiveSendGo. And it was under pressure from the Australian government. So it happened at the same time that it was raised in the Senate inquiry.

 

So at the Senate inquiry, some fucking communists were saying:

 

“How come there’s American websites, you know, raising money for this terrorist organisation, NSN, you know, rah, rah, rah. Why is this happening? Why isn’t the government doing something about it?”

 

And the government obviously wrote letters pressuring GiveSendGo to be like:

 

“Hey, can you refund this money to everyone? Like, we don’t want it going to this group. This group is obviously like a national security risk to faggot brown Australia.”

 

Because I think the GiveSendGo just said, like:

 

“Fundraiser for the White Australian community to have a property.”

 

Like, to have a home. We don’t have a home. Most of us are renting or we have mortgages in the city. We don’t really have living space for an Org to really, truly grow and take off, for an Org to grow and take off, it needs a physical home that its members or its leaders aren’t indebted to trying to pay off all the time.

 

[54:56]

 

So if we’re all at work, you know, 40 hours a week plus, to try to pay off a building like a headquarters, or a house for us to operate out of, not just a personal home, but a home for the Org, then how can the leaders then have the freedom, like the physical freedom, the time, the free time, to then push the movement into the next stage? It’s just not possible. We just stagnate at this level where it’s like one podcast a week, and it’s like we get a little bit of work done or we do some activism and we organise the manpower, we vet new members, and we slowly grow. But to really unlock the next stage, which is where we’re heading. The amount of recruitment we’re getting, we’re going to need people working full-time on this. And it can’t just be funded purely from the in-house. And there are a lot of people willing to donate and that’s awesome and be supporters.

 

So what I’m looking at doing is setting up an apparatus so that we have a governing organisation, and then that governing organisation is legally registered within the system so that it is protected. And I saw some smartass in the comments say just then, not just then, but like five minutes ago:

 

“Why would you be doing all this, if the civilisation is dead?”

 

These people are just so frustrating and annoying. Something dies over hundreds of years. So this idea that we can’t operate a little bit in the system in order to not get fucking Wacoed*, or not get fucking $100,000 tax Bill! Like this is just like splitting hairs. Analysis paralysis. These are just the worst kinds of fucking political commentators!

 

[* The Waco siege, also known as the Waco massacre, was the siege by U.S. Federal government and Texas state law enforcement officials of a compound belonging to the religious cult known as the Branch Davidians, between February 28 and April 19, 1993. The Branch Davidians, led by David Koresh, were headquartered at Mount Carmel Center ranch in unincorporated McLennan County, Texas, 13 miles (21 kilometers) northeast of Waco. Suspecting the group of stockpiling illegal weapons, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) obtained a search warrant for the compound and arrest warrants for Koresh and several of the group’s members. After 51 days, on April 19, 1993, the FBI launched a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the compound’s buildings. Shortly thereafter, the Mount Carmel Center became engulfed in flames. The fire and the reaction to the final attack within the group resulted in the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians, including 20–28 children and David Koresh. In total, the 51-day siege resulted in the deaths of four federal agents and 82 Branch Davidians, somewhere between 20 and, 208 of whom were children.]

 

And I try to ignore it, but they just kept commenting. Pain in the ass, to be honest, because these people are fucking do-nothings! This person will never do anything. They just sit on the Internet and be like:

 

“Oh, but you’re not doing this exactly correct!”

 

It’s like, fuck you! Shut your fucking mouth! Didn’t ask for your opinion. Pain in the arse!

 

Like, we’ve dedicated ten years to this, and I dedicate probably 30 or 40 hours a week, on top of my day job to this. And then you’ve got these fucking wankers that think their opinion is just as valid as you because they can nitpick something at you. No, we’re not a democracy. That’s not how it works. Get your feet in the movement. Actually get your foot in the door, and let’s have the conversation in person. But you won’t do that, will you? Just a piece of shit on the Internet.

 

So, as I was saying, more importantly, we set up the apparatus, and what we’re going to do is set up a supporters class. And so we have activists, we have a leadership team, we have activists, and we have a pool of associates. We have people that they’ve kind of dipped their toes in. They’ve come and trained a little bit or done a little bit of activism, but they don’t really want to commit to the once a month thing.

 

So what we’re trying to do is work out a class within the organisation that isn’t necessarily going to attend once a month, but maybe we might see them once or twice a year, and they can engage with the movement when they feel like it at those bigger events on the condition that they’re a financial supporter. And I think that’s a fair equilibrium of forces.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that would be another good thing as well. When we get some property. The reason why we want to do that, is because it’s just a cheaper option for us to all homestead on it and so on, rather than individually, you know, working out our arrangements. We want to be within, like, on the periphery of the city, like, attack distance of the city. But the objective then, if we can build a large community, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] I can think of a better term to use!

 

But yeah.

 

Joel Davis: But if we build like a large community, …

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re still politically relevant, we’re not just like hiding out. Obviously long term, we do want to do that. Long term, we do want to build something ages away with a huge amount of people, but for the amount of people we have at the moment, it’s better for us to stay connected to the city. I don’t think we need to build, …

 

[58:52]

 

Joel Davis: The city is the main, like, we’re building chapters in the rural areas, which is fantastic! And we’re getting a lot of good recruits from those areas. And there’s a lot of good stock, high quality White men that live in rural areas that are switched on and that are going to be great assets to the movement.

 

So we don’t want to be just a city movement. But the cities, there’s a large concentration of people, a lot of disaffected young White men dealing with the perils of diversity, that we want to bring in. That’s why we want to have our gyms and things like that. I’ve floated the idea it would be nice to buy some pubs in the cities and have, like, White nationalist pubs where we’ve got, like, our guys doing the DJing or our guys playing in bands and our guys at the security, and we got a bunch of Aryan babes behind the, pouring drinks and a place for the young White men to hang out. Community hubs for young White people in general. Because it’s important to build that community structure for the activist corp and to keep replenishing the activist corps with more and more recruits.

 

And then as they go up in the life cycle and they get ready to settle down and have kids, well, then if we have, like, peripheral rural areas, they can homestead on, where they can live a lifestyle that is like, somewhat de ZOGified. Some food is being generated on the farm, so they’re not eating just pure ZOG slop. They’re not gonna have to pay a giant jew mortgage, and they can home-school their kids in an environment with lots of young pro-White families with shared values. And the kids can grow up with other good stock, good families, you know, that are trusted and so on. So, like, that’s a very attractive arrangement for a life cycle to keep them within the movement.

 

But then also, if we build a big community centre on these, then we can have our conferences. We don’t have to go and rent some place out and they can do venue cancellations and shit like that! We can do it on our own property, we can manage our own security, so we can make it a very secure event and it can go as long as we want and we don’t have to pay extra to rent it out or they cancel it the last minute or the police show up and try and shut it down or any of this nonsense that you can deal with trying to organise big nationalist events. And that’s very important, to have these big events where we can have speeches and we can have big meetings and so on in the major cities.

 

So that’s part of the vision as well. Because a lot of people say, like:

 

“What’s the vision? You know, you just kind of marching around on the street and putting up stickers.”

 

And it’s well, that’s really, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It could be a social media issue. I think if they’ve only seen us on Twitter in recent time, then they think that’s all we do. I don’t really see that from the community on Telegram. Everyone on Telegram knows that we have this back end of our organisation, that we’re trying to build homesteads, that we’re trying to build living space for White people, we’re trying to build parallel institutions. We’ve been talking about this stuff for four or five years. That’s stuff that we’ve been working on. We’ve got a “mums and bubs” crew or club. The women are helping each other with an in-house daycare, lending each other help and services and stuff like that. We’ve got a huge back end community that we’ve built.

 

So, yeah, I only see that really on Twitter where people are like:

 

“Oh, but what’s actually the plan, guys? Where’s the money going, guys?”

 

And it’s like, we’ve explained it like 500 times, but we can explain it again. I’m happy to explain it again. Like, you know, gyms aren’t free! To set up a gym. It’s not free to set up any sort of business, or a studio to do this podcast professionally. If we professionalise something like this, the audience will become larger, the clips will become more mainstream. It just builds a gravity around it because it’s not like three dudes in their studies or spare bedrooms talking on kind of crappy webcams. So stuff like:

 

“Where’s the money going? Or where’s the money going to go?”

 

It’s well, it’s going to go everywhere. The more money there is, the more institutional power we can build that’s explicitly White nationalist.

 

And again, as I said, we’ve always started and centreed our two primary focus, or our three primary focuses would be the physical training element of it. We are an active club. That’s a big part of what we do, and it’s what’s held our community together for this long, is providing that as a service, like trying to maintain a masculine and health and fitness focus for young men. We’ve got the community model as well, the community building, so setting up kind of like little homesteads and having living space for people, because it’s unaffordable for most people to live in the major cities, and that’s where all the work is so we want to be able to work out a community solution to that problem.

 

And thirdly, we need propaganda. Not in any specific order. It’s not like that’s the third most important thing. That’s probably one of the most important things, but they’re all equally important. We need a home, we need a tribe. Tribe and train. And we need propaganda. We need stronger and better propaganda efforts. And we need to hire services as well. Like, none of this stuff is free. Once you’ve got a website, we’ve got a website up and running. It’s nothing flashy, but with more money, we can get a better website up and running, we can get better social media. We can have a social media manager, someone that works full-time doing that.

 

I mean, most people just go to work and they just work for ZOG, or they work for some subcontract of ZOG, or they work for some big corporation that’s a subcontractor of ZOG. And then it’s well, for nationalism to work, we need people that are working full-time doing nationalism. And you’ve got groups like the NJP, National Justice Party in America. I mean, they had like six guys. Say again, …

 

Joel Davis: They’re defunct now. They no longer exist.

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I know.

 

But what I’m saying is that these guys, they raised millions of dollars over the years. They paid off a whole bunch of their own mortgages, and then they just sort of, … I can understand the hesitation to support people like the three of us or the project that we’re building, because groups in the past, that’s how they behaved.

 

But I think if you look at the physionomy*. Do a physionomy check on the NJP guys and, …

 

[* Physiognomy or face reading is the practice of assessing a person’s character or personality from their outer appearance—especially the face. The term can also refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain without reference to its implied characteristics—as in the physiognomy of an individual plant or of a plant community. Wikipedia]

 

Joel Davis: If we pick up a formal organisation, there’s ways to have transparency where like everything is recorded and accounted for. Like, if you become a member, like that gives you like rights to kind of, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, that would only be something for members, like people that are just spectating on the Internet. You don’t get to decide where the money goes.

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! The people who are supporters, there will be transparency for them.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. And there always has been in our organisation, everyone that’s been in our organisation, obviously that I saw someone in the comments, some other smarter saying:

 

“Oh, but someone stolen from you in the past.”

 

Well, again, that was not from a lack of transparency. That was just one, you know, disgusting little creature that was grifting on the internet and, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That was just from, that was excess Greekery! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. That individual, … They didn’t like physically steal money out of my bank account or out of the like, coffers of the Org. What they did was they had their own parallel social media and they used their parallel social media platform to extract money out of people in the wider community, pretending that they were raising money on my behalf.

 

Blair Cottrell: And there’s the lesson.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s literally illegal.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s a threshold of Greekery that can be tolerated, but then you can’t go above that threshold or it just becomes dangerous and someone gets robbed. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: He was so Greek, he became jewish.

 

Thomas Sewell: If finances are centralised. But what my frustration with that whole situation was at the time that that was going on, we had three official fundraisers. We had a crypto fundraiser, a Monaro crypto fundraiser that was on our Telegram page. We had a GiveSendGo, and I have a PO Box if you want to send cash or books or gifts or whatever.

 

So we had three official fundraisers that were put up on all the official pages. That were put up on my page, all the other spokespeople of the Org’s page. But people were still sending money to the personal bank account of someone they knew was a member of our Org, on the basis that they were a member of the Org. But there was three official, …

 

So to me it’s, yeah, he’s a piece of shit for doing that. But also it’s pretty naive and stupid to be doing that was never, that was never publicly:

 

“Oh, by the way, if you want to donate money to the, pay it to this random member of our organisation.”

 

If any random member of our organisation messages you on social media saying:

 

“Hey, I’m raising money for the Org!”

 

I guarantee you they’re not! And report it to someone within the Org, that’s not that person, straight away! And we’ll fucking remove them on the spot! Because, yeah, it’ll never happen again.

 

Joel Davis: We weren’t defrauded. We weren’t stolen from. Like, technically it was stolen because it was money that people intended to give to the organisation. And so it was theft in that sense.

 

But really what it was fraud. It wasn’t direct theft.

 

So it wasn’t like:

 

“Oh, we don’t control our own money and we’re leaving the cash box in the hands of some scumbag. And what retards we are!”

 

It was like someone going around, sneaking around, presenting himself as a representative of the Org, soliciting donations.

 

So when people attacked us for that, it was like, if somebody had reported that to us earlier, that wouldn’t have happened. So, like we didn’t know that it was going on.

 

There’s a bunch of I think they’re like, pajeets. Maybe they’re Nigerians, but they’re probably pajeets on my Telegram. They’ll go into my Telegram chat, and then they’ll DM, they’ll create a fake account with my profile picture called Joel Davis, but it’ll be slightly different. And they’ll DM people and try and, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Instead of the “l” in Joel, it’s a capital “I” so, yeah, “JoeI Davis” Yeah, I’ve had them message me all the time.

 

Blair Cottrell: It just almost got me. Almost got me once. Like, my heart skipped a beat because I got a message from JoeI Davis just saying:

 

“Fuck you!”

 

And I was like, “what?”, that’s not the real Joel. Thank God! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, no!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the point is that people come in:

 

“Surely this isn’t you, Joel?”

 

And it’s like, obviously it’s not me. You know? Like, why do you even, like, come in and alert. Like, there’s been about literally 2,000 people that have come into the chat. Like:

 

“Is this Joel? I don’t know if it’s Joel or not.”

 

And everyone’s like:

 

“No. For the 3,000,000th time!”

 

People need to use a little bit of discretion. You know when something’s obviously bullshit! But at the same time, like, it’s not my responsibility. What am I supposed to do about that? If you have an open Telegram chat and that happens? Like, I don’t actually know what I can do about that.

 

So it is what it is. I would have to have, like, no open Telegram chat would be the alternative, and people would get very upset by that.

 

So, yeah, I don’t think anyone has been dumb enough to fall for the scam. If you have, shame on you!

 

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Thomas Sewell: We’ve got so many ideas in the chat, I think we should change the subject. Or maybe we should address some of these ideas. Look, I’ll just do a blanket statement on ideas then. If you haven’t heard the rant already, we don’t need any more ideas. Okay? There’s a lot of people giving us ideas in the chat. We have all the ideas. We have all of them! We have at least 99% of all the ideas. We’re actually overloading with ideas.

 

Blair Cottrell: We have as many ideas as we have wholesome grandmas.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] exactly! And what we need is men to implement these ideas.

 

So I have a rule in the organisation, when someone comes to me with an idea, I say:

 

“When are you starting?”

 

That is the rule! Because I have been doing this for so long now, and I have so many people come to me with an idea. All I say is:

 

“When are you starting?”

 

Because I used to be like:

 

“Wow, that’s a great idea. Let’s sit down and let’s discuss this idea and let’s work out this idea!”

 

It’s like, no, I’ve already got, like, 50 things on my plate. And when some guy in the chat said:

 

“We should really capitalise on the housing crisis!”

 

Like, [chuckling] we’re not doing that?

 

Blair Cottrell: I love Jacob’s perspective. Jacob says:

 

“Prove your worth first!”

 

Jacob says:

 

“Fight for the ideology! Sacrifice, take blows, and then still stand with us after years of that, then I’ll hear what you have to say.”

 

I like that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. We should be capitalizing on the housing crisis and spread propaganda and truth, how it’s caused by browns that will make the average Australian tick. It’s like, we just went to Bendigo and, well, we do the show every week and we talk about it every week. We post about it on Telegram and Twitter every week1

 

And also we’re doing in real life, rallies about mass deportations, doing speeches about how it’s causing us issues. And we don’t want these people in the country.

 

And on top of that, if that’s not enough, we also went to Bendigo just last weekend and handed out thousands, if not tens of thousands of flyers to all the people in Bendigo about how crime and housing is a problem, …

 

Blair Cottrell: How did that go, by the way? How did the people receive you?

 

Thomas Sewell: We talked about that last stream, didn’t we?

 

But, yeah, I can repeat it. It was good. It was awesome!

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know if we did discuss it on the stream last week, I think.

 

Blair Cottrell: I can’t remember covering it.

 

Joel Davis: But, yeah, it was actually really good! We’re all in NSN jackets. I wasn’t. I decided to be different because I’m me.

 

So I just had a different black jacket. I didn’t really think, … But everyone was in NSN jackets, and we had the EAM shirts on. We had these flyers that said “Whiteman Fight Back” on them. And we were going around handing them out to people. And I noticed a few things. One is that all the cutie girls took the flyer! They were like:

 

“Oh, yeah. Hey, thanks. Yeah, have a good day!”

 

Thomas Sewell: And the Zoommer boys.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Zoomer boys. And then the more like Chad Dads and the boomer, the White boommer! Like, all the boomers are White, but like, the boomer granddads and the Chad Dads.

 

Thomas Sewell: And the gracious grandmas. Don’t forget the racist grandmas.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they were all into it.

 

But then when it was like, the fat dads, the soy dads, they weren’t about it.

 

And then the soy male, like, left hard physiognomy, they were like:

 

“Oh, no, no, thanks!”

 

But physiognomy is very real. Just in that interaction, the ugly girls suck. Ugly girls, I’m changing from before, people accuse me of being a misogynist. Now I’m basically, what I am is I’m pro-hot chicks! And I’m anti-ugly chicks! I’m adapting. I think actually hot chicks are awesome! And it’s just the only problem is the ugly chicks. That’s my new view on women.

 

So you can debate that in the chat. Because I have noticed this time and time and time again, that hot chicks are so much more chill about racism, and ugly chicks are the only chicks that are really getting that offended by it. I’ve had countless experiences like this. So be that what it is.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why is that?

 

Thomas Sewell: Empathy.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know about the short answer. I don’t know if I can do short answers on questions like this, Blair. I guess maybe the short answer is this. Hot chicks do well in a society run by White men. Ugly chicks don’t do as well! Because all the White chads that run the society want to marry and bang all the hot chicks, or the White cuties and buy them nice houses and give them a nice life.

 

And then the ugly chicks are just kind of stuck with all the duds. Whereas, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Attractive women already have value and they don’t need to pander to things.

 

And so, like, less attractive women, they need to represent some sort of social justice value in order to seem valuable or useful to society.

 

Thomas Sewell: Attractive women find pity, disgusting! Attractive women hate pity! They find pity disgusting! So social justice doesn’t work.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s true. They won’t openly admit it. But yeah, women are kind of geared to despise weakness.

 

[1:15:19]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, attractive women. But unattractive women, they make a compromise with pity. They actually don’t have a negative relationship with pity. They’re okay with pity as a concept because they have insecurities. They actually want people to be okay with their issues and they pity themselves. So it’s a flow on effect.

 

So race mixing women, the majority of race mixing women do it out of low self esteem. That’s why they’re anti-racist. Because they’re actually worried that maybe they won’t get a nice boyfriend. They might not get a nice husband if they’re racist. Because they’re insecure about some genetic issue that they have. They always have a genetic issue. They might look semi-healthy on the surface but when you dive into it, there’s some serious genetic issue. Or at least an issue that flares up. It’s an issue that maybe flares up because of the toxic environment we’re living in. So it’s a cycle of poverty where they might have genes that are prone to, …

 

I’ll give you an example. I was at the shopping centre recently and there was a White girl. She was kind of average looking at best, with an Indian boyfriend. And they were at McDonald’s. Not Indian, but I don’t know, West Indies or something, he was brown but not black, but not Indian. Just some mulatto, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: What was wrong with the girl?

 

Thomas Sewell: She had really bad eczema. I had to walk past her and really sort of evaluate her. But she had really bad eczema. Really bad eczema. So she’s very insecure. She feels pity on herself. And so she’s not going to be prone to racism because she has some issues, some serious issue that she’s insecure about. She hasn’t worked out how to address it by changing her diet and exercise or environment. She might need to live in a different country or different region within a country. There’s something, you shouldn’t have, horrible eczema. That’s just you’re obviously doing something wrong. Right. If you’ve got a skin condition like that, move, live somewhere different where the climate’s different so your skin adapts to the better environment.

 

Blair Cottrell: Could be bad karma?

 

Thomas Sewell: It could be bad karma as well. Yeah, certainly.

 

But I think there are also just material reasons for it as well and I explain them. But what they do instead with a lot of these mental illnesses is they cope and say:

 

“Well, I’m accepting!”

 

Because if they’re accepting of other races, then other races are accepting of their bad genetic structure.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re more likely to be obese. They’re more likely to be low IQ. This is a fact. These are the statistics of women that race mix. They’re obese, they’re low IQ, they have genetic conditions, so they have organ issues, for example. They usually don’t finish high school. They usually become single moms.

 

Blair Cottrell: But even these women who have all of these genetic weaknesses, would it ethnically, racially, would they still stand higher than the people they choose to mix with? Or are we like casting off our genetic impurities and just spreading them amongst other races? So for that reason, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The trash is taking itself out. Civilisational mitosis is the final red pill. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Also, that’s true about homosexuality and feminism and like, Leftists are disproportionately dysgenic. They’ve got all these kinds of genetic issues that predict for Leftism. Like, they basically have high mutational load and all these indicators correlate with that. And at the same time, they engage in a whole series of behaviours that are less fertile.

 

So they’re going to not pass down as much of their mutant genes, but the more Right-wing, conservative, patriotic, healthy Whites breed more.

 

So there’s a lot of these trends that are, yeah, the trash taking itself out is occurring. But the problem with that is that when you do miscegenation, you create these spiteful, mutant offspring that are going to be hostile towards the kind of politics that we want to put forward because ultimately they’re excluded from it. So they’re just creating enemies. They’re creating enemies. On that’s why I can’t be tolerated to the fullest extent possible.

 

But anyway, on the kind of ugly girl question, we live in a society where there are all of these artificial privileges and statuses that are assigned not on the basis of your inherent quality, your inherent health and vitality and value as a human being, but on the basis of your conformity to systems which ultimately have basically the function of destroying the White race and upending natural hierarchies and subverting natural hierarchies, blocking the vile, the healthy, the good, from taking over society. Because there’s this coalition of resentful mutants and racial aliens and so on that are ruling over us. So they’re doing a lot better.

 

It’s the same thing with, like whenever you see the communists organise an event, there isn’t one, Chad. There’s no one Giga Chad, communist. That doesn’t exist. There isn’t one! They’re all fucking ugly, soy, low test, pathetic losers, every single one of them!

 

And that’s why. Because if you’re an ugly, pathetic loser, you’re not going to do very well under fascism. Whereas, like, they’re able to kind of get a discount and gain social prestige and status and so on by signaling, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Only the weak argue for equality. Huh?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the inferior.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! And there’s actually been a study on this, by the way, that they rated women by attractiveness. They got a whole bunch of men to rate, like, what is she, out of ten? And then collated the scores, and then they tested the women for political belief. And the hotter chicks were the most Right-wing. And the lower down the score, the more Left-wing they became.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

[1:21:17]

 

Joel Davis: So that’s scientific fact!

 

So what we’re saying here isn’t just cope like:

 

“Oh, you’re saying all the hot chicks are more predisposed to being Right-wing?”

 

No, it’s just actually a scientific fact.

 

Blair Cottrell: Curious segue. But I suppose what I was interested in, because I’ve got some political history, and Bendigo, close to my heart is Bendigo. And I was disappointed that I didn’t find the time to make it up there, to be honest. I wanted to go with you guys, but had to do some extra work. But my question, I suppose what I want to know is, what was the vibe like, Tom? Was there a similar feeling that used to be there years ago? Has it changed much? What was the vibe?

 

Thomas Sewell: I only encountered, or we only encountered, maybe a dozen men that were probably the young guys that were at the rally.

 

So most of the young guys we ran into were too young. They wouldn’t have been there. They would have been preteen, because it was so long ago. I mean, it was 2016, so it’s eight years ago, which is pretty scary to think about. But we ran into about a dozen men, in their thirties or really late twenties, and they might not have recognised. They probably would have recognised you. I don’t think they recognised me because I was kind of like a second or third speaker.

 

Blair Cottrell: You also missed out. You didn’t come to the first big rally there. You only came to the second. And just so the audience is aware, Bendigo was kind of a big datum point for Sewell and I in our, how should I describe it? In the way that we first came onto the scene through activism, and we generated a great deal of support through Bendigo. So that really put us on the map. That’s why Bendigo is kind of significant to us. It’s a historic Australian town. A lot of great culture there. But, yeah, the vibe?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s centreed around., … To also give some back note to the audience, it centreed around an organic protest that evolved in Bendigo against a mosque being built. Because there was only on the census, I think, 16 or 17 Muslims in a town of 110,000 or 150,000. There was only 16 Muslims on the census.

 

Blair Cottrell: They were trying to build the largest mosque in the southern hemisphere there.

 

Thomas Sewell: In Australia, because there’s a bigger one in Indonesia. But they were trying to build a mega mosque, like, for 10,000 plus people in a town with 16 Muslims. And there was no transparency with the public! There was no transparency with the people of Bendigo. And these organic little groups were forming, but they had no real strong leadership. And Blair was organising the UPF [United Patriots Front] and primarily out of Melbourne, and we were doing rallies against far-Left treason and against the Islamisation of Australia. That’s what our, you know, it was a pro-Australian, anti-Islam and anti-traitor position.

 

And I wouldn’t have called us civn ats, but we certainly weren’t., … Were playing an optics game. We didn’t want to go full White nationalism. We didn’t think that people were ready for that. We wanted to focus on being pro-Australian, working class, and anti-Islam, and obviously anti-traitor as well, the Left.

 

Now, we went up there in support and tried to basically get all these little groups of people together. There was these kind of organic protests that were forming, and we had some huge turnouts. I think our biggest rally was maybe two and a half thousand people. We completely dwarfed the counter-protesters, and it was just all organic. No money, no media support, no nothing! Whereas they had everything. They had all the system behind them, and they could only, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It scared the shit out of the government, too. Scared the shit out of the government! We had big marches through the streets. Half the town was basically shut down, and we ended up gathering in a park just to actually keep the mass of people that we had acquired away from the centre of town to prevent disruption of businesses. That’s how big our rallies were there back in these days.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So in saying that, there was a huge organic support from the public, and I think people still remember that, even if they don’t remember me personally, they remember that energy. I don’t think that disappears.

 

It’s like Cronulla. Everyone remembers Cronulla*. Even if you don’t remember the leaders or the individuals, there’s an energy, there’s an anonymity of the message, of the symbol of what that was. And those people are still in Bendigo. And the greatest support we got, because the Zoomers aren’t very serious. They’re all irony bros. They’re a strange generation. They’re not politically mature enough to really understand what’s going on, but they agree with it and support it, I think, at a subconscious level.

 

[* The 2005 Cronulla riots were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebos) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

So with Zoomers, you’re kind of always tapping into the subconscious. There’s not really much of a conscious political conversation you can have with them. They, like, they just kind of FED post and say kind of ironic things and speak in their kind of mumble, mumble language. But the guys around our age, Blair, they remember, like, they were with quiet voices they came in close and they said:

 

“It’s getting out of control. The Whiteman’s got to fight back. Love what you guys are doing. This is awesome stuff!”

 

And a couple of them that I spoke to, they were there. They were present at the rallies. But the biggest support we got, and I know it’s a bit cliche, the biggest support we got and the biggest vibe that we had, or the general vibe, was actually from the Boomers, and which was surprising. I was actually shocked, genuinely shocked. The Boomers were the most supportive people. The Boomers and the Zoomers. The Boomers and the Zoomers!

 

[1:26:47]

 

Blair Cottrell: For different reasons. Like, it’s probably a genuine racism in the Boomers, but like you said, the Zoomer is more ironic.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Basically every single grandma, except the refugee grandmas. So there’s two types of grandmas, obviously, as I’ve explained on the show. But the fizz was incredible because we’re doing in real life activism, and we’re talking to people on the street, and we’re handing out flies on the street. Every old lady that had a normal haircut took the flyer, read the flyer, and said:

 

“Thank you!”

 

It literally came down to the haircut. Every grandma that had a shit haircut, that had a retarded purple haircut, they all just looked at us and was like:

 

“No, thanks.”

 

But every single, like, normal looking, wholesome grandma that has grandkids, like, a real grandma, not a refugee grandma, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Only the non-poisonous grandmas were friendly?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the non-poisonous grandmas, they loved it! A couple of them, actually, at one point walked with me across the road with me and told me about how it’s getting out of out of control. And we’ve got all this on footage, so we’re just working out a way to sort of blur them and protect their identities so that they don’t get, like, attacked by Leftists, because these were some older women, they’re in their seventies and eighties, and they were basically saying:

 

“Thank you for what you’re doing.”

 

Like, it’s what all the Boomers had to say to us was:

 

“It’s getting out of control. Are you the guys that are going to do something about it? Are you the guys going to do? Are you going to do it?”

 

So it was really special. It was really awesome! And I want to do more of it.

 

Joel Davis: I was going up to people saying:

 

“Hey, I’m from the National Socialist Network. Can I interest you in a flyer?”

 

It was like:

 

“Hey, I’m a National Socialist. Here’s a flyer.”

 

Blair Cottrell: The standard Australian worker probably wouldn’t even really know what National Socialist was. They’ll know what Nazi is. But not everyone would actually understand what National Socialism is, so you’ve got that to your advantage there.

 

Joel Davis: Maybe we proved that there’s an optical valley to National Socialism.

 

But, yeah, we had some funny interactions. I went to one Boomer and handed him the flyer, and he just kind of took it. And I don’t think he was fully really paying attention. He just kind of took the flyer, and he looked at it, and then he read, said:

 

“Whiteman, fight back.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Hey, mate, come back! Can I shake your hand?”

 

I was like:

 

“Yeah.”

 

And I shook his hand. And he’s like:

 

“Fuck the wokes! Fuck the wokes!”

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s like:

 

“This is a awesome!”

 

Joel Davis: And that was pretty cool!

 

And then, …

 

Thomas Sewell: There was another Boomer that you gave a flyer to, and he did the same thing. He kind of was:

 

“Oh, thanks, man.”

 

And just didn’t even look at it. And then you gave on to his wife. And then his wife was really interested! She’s like:

 

“Oh, yeah, this is awesome!”

 

And then we kept going because we were on the march. We’re kind of walking through. And then about five minutes later, he came charging up to us and was like:

 

“Can I have more of those? I’m gonna put them on my car! I’m gonna put them on the back of my car!”

 

Blair Cottrell: That was awesome! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe you’d walked off by then. But he came back, that guy. He was in a cowboy hat or something, like a cattleman’s hat. Yeah, it was awesome! The vibe was good. The vibe was very good.

 

There was only really two antagonists. One was this fat soy boy in his twenties, and they were doing, like, a little Palestine rally. There was, like four or five of them on the corner. They were waving Palestinian flags. So he was like a social, alternative fucking estrogenic faggot. And he came over to us and he said, it was really funny. It was really, really funny. We got on camera and he said:

 

“I’ve got it on the tip of my tongue. I’m about to say it.”

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m like:

 

“All right. Like, what is it? What have you got to say, buddy?”

 

And he was like:

 

“I’m trying! I’m trying here!”

 

I’m like:

 

“Yeah, it’s okay. Like, we’re here. We’re waiting. We’re listening. It’s okay. Like, spit it out. It’s all right.”

 

And he was like:

 

“Ahh. Ugh, this is hard. This is really hard for me!”

 

I’m like:

 

“It’s all right. Just come on! Calm down. Relax. I’m not gonna hurt you. Just say what you gotta say.”

 

And he was like:

 

“Ahh! Umm, you guys! Your problem, Tom, is you protect paedophiles!”

 

And I was like:

 

“What! What the fuck are you talking about?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Where did he get that from?

 

Thomas Sewell: And he was like:

 

“Oh, not paedophiles. Sorry. Hebrophiles!”

 

And then he just, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what this is, Tom?

 

Thomas Sewell: And then he said, …

 

Blair Cottrell: , you know what this is? This is his programming, which is commanding him to scream abuse at you, conflicting with the fact that if he does scream abuse at you’re going to uppercut him. And he’s like, … [chuckling]

 

[1:30:55]

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe. He was trying. He had a good try.

 

And then he was like:

 

“Anyway, that’s what I’ve got to say!”

 

And then he walked off, and was kind of chuffed with himself. And we were like:

 

“All right, all right, fair enough. Okay. Like, go away fatty.”

 

And then about ten minutes later this guy, and I hadn’t really properly processed this at the time, but I’ve had a lot of time to think about it since the weekend. He was wearing a Lego T-shirt. He was probably 55, 60 years old, fat as fuck, and he was wearing a Lego T-shirt and jeans. Yeah, he was really oestrogenic. And I think he was actually gay. He was running a Lego stand. He was kind of a closeted gay, like a secret gay. He was running a Lego stand. And we’d walked past maybe five or ten minutes earlier, and we’re handing out flyers and talking to people. And he came over and he said:

 

“I need you to go! I need you to leave1 I’ve called the police.”

 

And I said:

 

“I’m not going anywhere. Leave me alone. Like, go away. Like you’re causing an issue.”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, you need to go. You need to leave.”

 

And I was like:

 

“I’m standing here. Welcome to democracy, buddy. Go away!”

 

He started getting in my space, like, he started touching me and kind of elbowing me and I said:

 

“You’re a fucking professional victim, aren’t you? You’re looking to get hit, like you’re a piece of shit!”

 

He’s like:

 

“Oh, there’s no need to be aggressive, mate. There’s no need to be aggressive, mate!”

 

And he’s like, getting in my face and elbowing, elbowing the side of me just nudging me. And I kind of just gently kind of got him because I’m like:

 

“Fuck, I’ll kill this person accidentally if I hit him. So I’ll just move him away.”

 

And I just said:

 

“Go away. Like, you obviously, you don’t agree with us. You don’t support us. That’s cool. Go back to doing what’s important in life, which is Lego. Go back into your children’s toys. Go back to Lego.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“You guys feel special about yourselves marching around your uniforms. You’re a bunch of clowns!”

 

I’m like:

 

“Mate, you’re 60 years old. You’re in a Lego T-shirt!”

 

“I care about children!”

 

Blair Cottrell: What was that? Town in Queensland, that inland town in Queensland when we rallied. Toowoomba. What I did in Toowoomba, …

 

Thomas Sewell: In hindsight, honestly, we just need more of that. These people should be a little bit intimidated that we’re clearly not scary enough. The media make us out like we’re terrorists. If we really were these people wouldn’t come up to us and behave this way. So I think we need to be a little bit more scary because they’re so fucking annoying!

 

But anyway, this fat, oestrogenic faggot came over. He hassled. He kind of haggled us for five minutes, but we just kept handing out flyers. And one of his talking points was:

 

“Nobody agrees with you. Nobody supports you.”

 

And then we just hand out, like, ten flyers to a Zoomer crowd that go past. They’re all loving it. They’re like:

 

“Fuck Indians! We hate Indians! Kill them all!”

 

Like, Fed posting. And he’s like:

 

“Oh, no way!”

 

And then handing out flyers to all the hot chicks going past. And then two dads come over and start talking to us. And then another guy comes over and shakes our hand and he’s wearing military, what’s it called? Like, the military-surplus. He was a prepper or something. And he shook our hand. [chuckling] And it was funny as man, just seeing his morale drop the more people greeted us. And he was the only guy that was against us in the whole area.

 

So that was interesting to see.

 

But in hindsight, what I didn’t realise and what I should have said or asked was:

 

“Whose children are you doing Lego with? Because they’re not your own, are they, buddy?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: He was a fucking paedophile! He was a fucking faggot paedophile! And I want to know his name. I want to find out what his name is. And I want to make sure that the people of Bendigo know who this is.

 

Blair Cottrell: He might have just been a Lego enthusiast.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no! He had a sinister energy.

 

Joel Davis: I thought he was just like one of the dads organising, like, a Lego day for the kids. Because at one point he was like:

 

“I’m just here trying to organise a Lego day for the kids here.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Why don’t you organise a fucking push-up day, you fat cunt?”

 

You know what I mean? [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s always the same physiognomy, though, man.

 

Joel Davis: But, an older other gentleman that was probably his gay lover that I just thought was one of the other dads or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. They weren’t with their kids. I didn’t realise it at the time. I thought they were dads and I thought they had kids with them. But there were other people’s kids. They weren’t their kids. They were just two random volunteers that were friends with each other that were running a Lego stand in the middle of town.

 

And the more I think about it, the more I’m like, I’m pretty sure he was secretly gay. And I reckon he’s a sex offender. I reckon if I can find out the guy’s name and send it to all our colleagues in Bendigo. And Bendigo is not a big place. It’s maybe 100,000 people. I’m sure the people of Bendigo will be able to tell us whether the guy was a paedophile or not.

 

[1:35:24]

 

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say if you like the stream, retweet the stream. Even better, like and retweet and let’s get the views up. Promote the stream. We’re on Twitter. We’re taking over Twitter. Hail Elon Musk, hail our people! I just want to say that now. So we get the retweets juiced. But you can go back to calling out this pedo, because we need to find him.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s what we said earlier. Who has a problem with fascism? Who has a problem with a nationalist government taking over the state apparatus? Who will lose from that? Every single working White Australian and even people that aren’t working, people looking for work, every single White Australian that is not up to some nefarious act to betray the country and destroy it, has literally nothing to fear. They only have things to gain. They’re like:

 

“Oh, cool. Housing is cheaper, there’s less traffic. Like, the services work better. Everyone’s kind and polite. You don’t need to lock the door. You don’t need to worry about your safety.”

 

Like, the whole society is going to improve except for people trying to destroy the country. And people that are up to nefarious acts.

 

So if you’re a financial parasite, for example, like the people within the financial sector that are robbing the country and enslaving it through interest, debt slavery, the people that are profiting off selling off Australia and its assets, the people that are grooming children, the paedophiles, the whole industry, the whole LGBT industry. These people have something to lose. These people are going to be unearthed. These people are going to have the state apparatus used against them.

 

So that’s why they haggle us in the street. They don’t want us to succeed. They don’t want us to take power. But every normal, functioning human being in society is just like., … I mean, obviously if they’re brown, they’re usually functioning, but they have to go back.

 

But all the White people, they’re either neutral or they support us. They’re like:

 

“Oh, well, we’ll see if you guys take power!”

 

You know, they don’t believe it. They’re not believers. There’s a lot of people that don’t think we can do it, but we can do it. And we’re going to do it, and we’re going to show everyone.

 

And then after we win and the state apparatus is being used against the people that are trying to destroy the country, the country will suddenly work a lot better.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’ve got to will it into action, don’t you? What I wish I could will into action is the removal of LED lights! Does anyone else hate LED lights? Like, I feel like they’re damaging my eyes.

 

Thomas Sewell: You gotta remove the [words unclear] room first.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, yeah. And when I’m driving around on the street, I remember when I was young, car headlights, they just had this pleasant glow through them, but now they’re blinding! Now I’m squinting even at night while I’m driving, and I feel like my brain. I get headaches. My brain not shutting off. I’m not sleeping as easily as I used to, and I swear it’s LED lights, man. I think they’re really screwing with my eyes and my mind. It’s so sick of it! I don’t know if anyone else has the same experience, but.

 

Thomas Sewell: Hundred percent, 100%.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what’s next? Joel Davis?

 

So we got a new topic to move on to.

 

Joel Davis: We do. But I just wanted to tell one more funny story from the Bendigo thing, because I think the audience will enjoy this.

 

So there were there’s a couple little packs of Zoomer kids who loved us, and some of them may or may not. I cannot confirm more than I threw Romans. That would be illegal. But and, yeah, one of the boys may or may not have declared that he wanted to shoot Indians in the head and so on. There was a lot of based chatter.

 

Blair Cottrell: No! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Zoomers were, … Talk about bad optics. Think we’re bad optics. The Zoomers were were making us look like a bunch of cuckservatives. You know what I mean? Some of the chat.

 

But there were this group of Zoomers, and they, like, walked off after we, like, spoke to them, and we handed them some flyers. And then they were all talking amongst themselves, and one of the guy’s girlfriend was down, and she was taking some pictures of us as we were doing things throughout the day, so she was a little bit further away, and she overheard them chattering. Like, the boys were like:

 

“Oh, let’s sign up. This would be sick! Like this is like the Aussie KKK! This is fucking based!”

 

One of the kids is like:

 

“Oh, I don’t know.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“What are you, a cuck?”

 

And they were like, full, like, so that was kind of cool like, to hear that report back. So, yeah, that was a cool story.

 

One thing I will say, though, about Bendigo, there’s a lot of surprisingly, it’s sad. There’s a lot of non-Whites there. We were only handing out flyers to White people, obviously. Like, but there was a lot of chinky there.

 

Thomas Sewell: There was one Asian, like, tourist that asked for one, and we were like:

 

“All right.”

 

We gave it to them.

 

Joel Davis: We gave them to all the White people and not to them, and they’re like:

 

“Can we please have one?”

 

We’re like:

 

“Okay.”

 

And then they, like, read it, and they just sat there.

 

[1:40:10]

 

Blair Cottrell: An Australian cultural experience for the Asian tourists. Like, they’ll tell that story when they go home. But Asians like to live amongst Whites, too, so they’re probably looking for the White racist areas.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah.

 

There was an old man and a young kid that saluted us like a normal kind of military salute as we marched past, which was pretty. Well, we didn’t march past, as we walked past, which I thought was pretty funny.

 

Blair Cottrell: Tom, what is the standard Australian military salute? Is it the hand up or down?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s like that. 45 degrees, right?

 

So when you wear a hat these two fingers here touch the brim of the hat. Like that. Yeah. And your arms kind of at that angle, like, at a 45 degree. Whereas the you know, the American salute like that. Yeah, we salute like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s more of an open handed. Almost like an honest salute.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And I think, though, the Germans saluted differently. Like, they kind of had the hand facing them before, like the Wehrmacht salute versus the SS salute, which is obviously the HH one.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: But salutes all mean the same thing metaphysically. I mean, it means, like, we get the word “hey” from hail, which is like, hail, like, hello, hey, hail, like, hail Hitler or hail Odin or whatever.

 

Like, to say hello, hey. All that stuff to throw the salute, to do the open hand, it all means the same thing. It’s all a gesture in good faith between White people. And we’ve been doing it for 10,000 plus years. And they’re never going to be able to get rid of it. Just the only difference between the National Socialist or the staunch Roman salute is its a very exaggerated version of just saying hello to people. You know, everyone does it. Like, when you’re driving your car and someone let’s you in, you, like, you give them a little hail, you give them a little wave. So all that it is a militant, staunch, like, there can be no question asked about the faith of the gesture. Obviously coming from someone that’s pro-White when you’re doing it with that straight arm. It’s a very nationalistic, masculine and staunch physical gesture.

 

That’s why it’s so important that we continue to fight it, which is actually going on at the moment in the courts. A little update is that the police have charged two of the young guys with performing it prior to, like Michael Nelson and Nathan Ball, prior to the salute ban. And they charged them not with doing the salute because it wasn’t illegal at a time, but they’ve charged them with public indecency. Which, if you read the law, it’s basically like showing your genitals in public or mooning someone. And they’re trying to correlate the Roman salute prior to the Roman salute ban being like, akin to mooning or showing of genitals in public.

 

So they’re fighting that in the courts at the moment, but they’re postponing the court date until after we get a result from Jacob’s hearing, which should be, I think, in two weeks.

 

Joel Davis: For those who don’t know, Jacob is being charged more directly under the Roman salute ban over throwing a Roman salute, allegedly.

 

So that’s a very important case because from our position, collectively, legally, and also, I think Jacob’s position legally in the case is that Australians have a constitutional right to free political communication. There’s been many, …

 

Blair Cottrell: An implied right. It’s not actually a right. It’s an implied right.

 

Joel Davis: Implied right. Regardless. Like that’s the High Court precedent, is that we have a right to free political communication in this country according to the High Court, which is the highest court in the land.

 

So we have it, according to the court. That’s just, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s true. And actually the way they argued I was guilty in my hate speech or intent to incite ridicule hate speech court battle, was that my speech was actually limiting the free political expression of others by making them feel offended or uncomfortable. Right. So they argued it from that angle, which was interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s the same argument that they’re making with Jacob. I swear I talked about this on stream last week, but maybe I didn’t.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, maybe they’re using the same precedent as they did with my, it worked with me. They got a conviction, so they’re probably using the same method.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what we’re arguing is that, yeah, like the non-Whites, they’re too intimidated to exercise their right to free political communication because Jacob throwing a Roman salute is intimidating them into staying silent and, or something. Which is a totally absurd argument!

 

Blair Cottrell: They should have to provide evidence of that they should have to have witnesses and evidence for that.

 

Thomas Sewell: If it was a real court. [chuckling]

 

[1:44:54]

 

Joel Davis: It’s an absurd argument on its face. Like it’s an absolute joke!:

 

“Oh, so you can’t exercise your right to free political communication because other people might be upset by what you say and therefore not communicate their politics!”

 

That’s just absurd on its face! That’s not freedom of political communication. It’s inherently wrong.

 

But yeah, this is an important case. Because free speech is a very important case. There is going to be, I think the Libertarian Party, but they’re bringing in other people. They’re doing a protest, not a protest, kind of like a rally in Sydney, I think, on Saturday. Don’t quote me on that. It could be Sunday, but look it up, in Sydney. And they’re going to have a lot of big speakers. I think Craig Kelly is going to be there. Like mainstream populist Right and libertarian speakers are going to be there rallying against the Misinformation Disinformation Bill*.

 

[* A proposal for legislation designed to tackle online misinformation has seen Australia’s Federal Government come under fire from an unlikely alliance of critics, who have warned it constitutes a “chilling assault” on free speech in Australia.

The Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024, which was introduced to Parliament last week by Communications Minister Michelle Rowland, would give the Australian Communications & Media Authority (ACMA) wide-ranging new powers to impose massive fines-up to 5% of global revenues-on social media platforms that allow the dissemination of misinformation and disinformation on their services. Claiming that misinformation and disinformation pose a “serious threat” to social cohesion and democracy, the legislation shifts responsibility for enforcing compliance onto the platforms hosting it, running the risk that corporations would put the protection of their bottom line above free speech and religious expression. Already in its second draught after an earlier version was universally condemned, including by the Australian Human Rights Commission, the updated legislation immediately came under ferocious attack by groups from all sides of public discourse. https://www.christiantoday.com/article/unlikely.alliance.forms.in.australia.over.fears.misinformation.bill.puts.free.speech.at.stake/142179.htm]

 

And obviously we’re not Libertarians. You know, we don’t support them politically. But on this issue we agree that they’re actually trying to provide some opposition to the bill.

 

And I encourage nationalists in Sydney to go down there and rub shoulders and maybe have a chat with some people, maybe be good networking opportunity for like minded people. I find lately it’s been very easy as a nationalist to talk to conservatives and libertarians. They’re much more open minded and receptive to hearing what I have to say than they were two years ago. Conservatives and libertarians are increasingly feeling that we’re on their side against the same enemy. Even if they don’t agree with us. I think we’re a little bit too extreme and too radical. Their attitude has shifted. Where before they really kind of like saw us as just like too crazy and that we were like a completely different category that they don’t associate with. I think now they’re feeling more like bunched up with us and more proximal to us.

 

And a lot of conservatives are just outright chill with us now. And that’s probably why we had such a chill reaction on the streets of Bendigo the other day and why no recent rallies that we’ve done have gone down a lot better, I think with the public.

 

Blair Cottrell: The normalisation of racism happening.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think that’s happening to a large extent.

 

But also, yeah, I think on this particular issue, the reason why they’re trying to censor the Internet is because they’re trying to shut us down! And people like us, like people with nationalist views. That’s the main reason! It’s not because they’re trying to shut down any of these other political ideologies. Like, yeah, they want to, they want to shut down certain other discourses they don’t like, critical of other government policies.

 

But the main number one priority is shutting down, quote, unquote “racism” and quote, unquote “anti-semitism”. That’s really what it really boils down to. And they’re trying to stand up and fight for our freedom of speech, our freedom to be racist, our freedom to advocate for our worldview.

 

And so we’re in alliance with them on this particular issue. We’re in a kind of free speech alliance de facto in Australian politics.

 

So we should go stand shoulder to shoulder with them and kind of create that camaraderie. Because that’s the message that I have to libertarians and conservatives. You might think that myself and Blair and Tom and people in our movement are too extreme or too radical for your taste, but we’re the fighters that are going to go and fight your enemies. The communists, the Marxists, the social liberals that have taken over not just the government, but all the kind of institutions of power in this country that are bringing in all these immigrants, that are destroying our culture, destroying our way of life, trying to teach the kids to be trans, teach them to hate Australia, trying to change the flag, change the national anthem, you know, give all the land back to the Aboriginals and all this crazy shit that they’re doing. We’re the guys that are going to go and take the fight to that enemy, which is your enemy, and you understand that’s your enemy.

 

So get out of our way at the very least, or maybe cheer us on going and kind of like taking the battle, being the Spearhead against all the political powers that be, that you hate and that you’re opposed to, that you recognise as your enemy. Like, we’re in this together in a certain sense. You need us. You need the radicals that are going to take the fight to them because frankly, the conservative movement, libertarian movement, you guys don’t have enough fight to really beat these guys. You don’t! You need a hardcore radical edge.

 

And that’s why the Left have won. Because the Left got out of its way of its communists, of its. Of its radical fringe. It allowed its radical fringe to take the charge, to lead the charge against the right for decades. They took over the universities, they infiltrated the Labour unions, they infiltrated the political parties. They got themselves in the media, all these different positions of power, and they push their agenda.

 

Because they got out the way of their radicals while conservatives and so on were canceling our radicals on the Right because we were bad optics or we were too extreme or whatever. They just ran over us!

 

So it’s time for you guys to take the shackles off the Nazis and let us fucking. Let us go at the enemy. Like we’re chained up in the backyard and we’re the pit bull, we just want to go and like bite the bone! [Blair laughing] you know, take the chain off. Let us go and bite these fucking commies!

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re worried, man. They’re worried that if we bite someone, we’re going to get put down. [chuckling]

 

[1:50:13]

 

Thomas Sewell: Before we move on from the Roman salute thing, I just wanted to read out. I’ve been helping them draught their submissions for the court. And one of the final points in the conclusion for their statements, I had, I’m just going to read it out to people because most people won’t actually watch the actual court case because it’ll be in a closed court or there won’t be the option for that. But what I’m helping them draught up was:

 

“To charge or convict White Australians for asserting their political rights in the face of foreigners asserting their foreign political issues.”

 

Because the context of their Roman salutes were, there was an Iranian protest in the city and they were aggravating the boys because obviously, you know, these fucking foreigners in our country, they assert their political so-called rights over us.

 

And anyway, the Roman salute was in retaliation. Well, not necessarily retaliation, but it was one group asserting their political rights, and then these two boys asserting their political rights. And one group got charged and the other didn’t. And you can guess who. But to finish that, I said:

 

“For them to assert their political rights in the face of foreigners creates a clear two tier policing and legal system, which ultimately establishes White Australians as Second Class citizens in their own country, whilst foreigners waving foreign flags become first class citizens who are allowed to offend with impunity.”

 

So they’ve actually done their homework, they’ve done a lot of work, and they’ve actually put together, they’re self representing, which at this level of court is fine to do it. Magistrates, you don’t need to get a lawyer. It’s a waste of money. They’ve already had five court dates and still nothing has happened. It’s still getting adjourned and pushed back.

 

So they’ve already saved themselves tens of thousands of dollars, which is very smart of them. And they’ve been doing their homework, and they’ve put together a very strong case for the history of the Roman salute. You know, the laws in regards to this, the precedents in regards to this, or the precinct cases. And also the fact that all part of living in a democracy or part of living in Victoria is you have to put up with other people you don’t agree with, and showing that these other groups do and say things that would be considered offensive by normal Australian standards.

 

Like, for example, the Aboriginals saying, you know, that Australia is going to be black in the future, or saying that they want to basically kill Whitey, or whatever their banner is supposed to say. And that none of these people have been charged. There’s no precedence that any Aboriginal has been charged for any of their offensive political demonstrations, which are against the sensibilities of all normal Australians.

 

And likewise, you know, there shouldn’t be a two tier system where White people should be charged for their political assertions. Which we obviously know there’s already precedents there. They’ve charged Blair and they obviously charged Neil Erikson and Chris Shortis with hurting the feelings of Muslims in 2017.*

 

[Far-right nationalists found guilty of inciting serious contempt for Muslims after mock beheading video. By James Oaten Topic: Courts and Trials Tuesday 5 September 2017 White nationalists found guilty of inciting serious contempt of Muslims (Louise Milligan) Three far-Right nationalists who staged a mock beheading to protest against the building of a mosque in Bendigo in central Victoria have been found guilty of inciting serious contempt of Muslims.

Blair Cottrell, Christopher Shortis and Neil Erikson have each been fined $2,000 after they filmed the beheading of a mannequin with a toy sword outside the Bendigo council offices in 2015. The so-called ‘Bendigo Three’ argued that their video, which was released on the United Patriot’s Front Facebook page, was an act of free speech that focused on a specific tenet of Islam. But the magistrate disagreed, arguing the video was clearly intended to create serious contempt for or ridicule of Muslims.

“We live in a community which is inclusive and that each individual deserves the right to live their life peacefully.”

Magistrate Peter Hardy said.

“You more than just crossed a line.”

It is the first time a criminal charge under Victoria’s Racial and Religious Tolerance Act has been tested in court. Other charges relating to damaging public property were struck out. The three men have since told the media that they intend to appeal the decision, saying they “expected” the outcome. Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-05/three-men-found-guilty-of-inciting-serious-contempt-for-muslims/8874804]

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say quickly, the details. The rally is Saturday, like this coming Saturday, the 28th in Sydney at Speaker’s Corner. 08:30 am. So get down there. I encourage you if you live in Sydney and I’d get down there on Saturday, go check it out. I think some of the boys would be down there. So you might meet some friendlies. You know, you might spot the [word unclear] of a seemingly co-White nationalist. It’s a chance to meet and greet at a neutral location and maybe have a chat also to the conservatives and the Libertarians down there. You could have some productive conversations and support the opposition to this Bill, which is a really bad Bill that’s going to negatively impact our ability to spread our ideas online and just our general online freedoms. So it’s good to see public opposition. And I think they’re going to do a rally in Melbourne, a similar outfit, a similar rally, I think not this weekend, but next weekend, but I guess we’ll talk about it on the show next week. I don’t know too many details about that one, so just want to put that out there. It’s important to be politically involved in issues like this.

 

I think free speech, our core engagement with the mainstream, the political mainstream is free speech issues, obviously anti-immigration and pro-deportation. Anything to do with those are like our kind of bread and butter. Like, one is like our core most core issue and which is just the demographics of the country.

 

And the other is like protecting our ability to advocate for ourselves, like in public and organise a political movement. You know, those are like really like the two most essential issues, I think, when we’re engaging with the political mainstream. So, I mean, there’s lots of other issues to concern ourselves with. So, yeah, that’s just my view on that.

 

Do you guys want to talk about, because, Blair, you did a Twitter space a few days ago and you were making, I think, an interesting point, which I think you should reiterate here on the stream. Where you were talking about how you think that excessive moralizing and ideological minutiae often gets in the way within the movement of focusing upon a clear and focused form of messaging that is just going to achieve maximum popularity and achieve maximum clarity of, who’s on our side, who’s against us.

 

And I thought you stated your case quite well. So I thought I was just going to invite you to reiterate that point. And it’s actually interesting. So, yeah, you want to jump into that?

 

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Blair Cottrell: I think I stated it so well it over the heads of a lot of my standard audience.

 

So for that reason, I just removed the replay because I wanted to articulate it better. I don’t expect I’ll articulate it as well as I want to now. It’s getting late in the night, and this is the time at which my brain starts to shut down, because I’m only slightly smarter than average. I’m not that smart. When I get tired, I go to average and below become like everybody else again. And I’m almost at that point now. [chuckling]

 

So look my observation was that we basically suffer from too much idealism. White people generally, we get tricked, misled, and have the scope of our reasoning powers severely limited by that idealism. An example of this is the equality concept. We all know you guys watching this show probably agree that human equality is ridiculous! But it doesn’t really matter how matter how ridiculous it is. It’s this kind of reality, this social programme that most people adhere to, even if they don’t agree with it, in order not to suffer social consequences, right?

 

But in contrast to our race, our ethnic community, we have the jewish community, jewish people. And they don’t have this long list of ideals and social values about justice and truth and morality that they’re in adherence to. They just have this singular ideal, one only. And that is the ideal of their own superiority over non-jews.

 

And the fact that non-jews exist only to serve them, or die, whatever. They don’t care, as long as they’re number one. That’s the ideal governing our enemy.

 

And you can see how we’re at a tremendous disadvantage if we’re going to allow ourselves to be severely limited, not just in belief and understanding, but also in action, in what we can actually do in order to effectively stand up to and overthrow this enemy, right? Because this enemy, to quote Churchill when he was speaking about the power the jewish communists had over Russia:

 

“This enemy has gripped us by the hair on our heads all around the world!”

 

And I think in order to fight this enemy, we need to understand that over moralizing, having too many ideals is going to restrict our reasoning powers and our ability to move. We need to be able to move in many different directions, and we need to be able to say whatever we need to say and do whatever we need to do in order to establish the kind of results, measurable results! Victories! And results in regards to securing our own existence, right? And that was the point that I was trying to make in the space. I thought that I could articulate it better, though.

 

And like I said, I don’t think I’ve done that good of a job now, either. I’ve got to think more about it because it all just comes down to what I always talk about, which is just having that singular, simple view of life, boiling everything down to that one us versus them dynamic. This is who we are. We’re defending that. We’re advancing that over there is who our enemy is, down with them.

 

And whatever you need to do in that process of building up your own community and sort of destroying or at least releasing yourself from the grip of your enemies, you do it. And what frustrates me, I suppose, is there’s a lot of things that members of our own ethnic community won’t do for moral reasons. You know, they won’t fight dirty enough.

 

For example, the jewish community, they’ll say that they support equality in our nations, but they won’t support equality in their own nation, right?

 

So they’ve got that ability to change their stance where necessary in order to put their enemies at disadvantage and then make their own position more advantageous to them in certain circumstances. I don’t want to get too much more into it for the time being, but, you know what I’m trying to say, right? We need to be able to do whatever we have to do to win! That’s what I’m trying to say. And if we’re going to be restricted to a certain scope of reasoning or activity as a result of morals, truth, justice, idealism, anything which restricts us too much, shouldn’t be taken into consideration. Or at the very most, we should pretend or ostensibly be seen to observe it. But then we’re not actually observing it. You understand what I mean by that?

 

The jews are very good at that as well. They pretend to observe our morals and traditions, for example. But then when you pay attention to what they’re actually doing, they’re not showing any respect whatsoever to our traditions and basic moral structure of society. They’re changing it from within.

 

So, yeah, something to think about, that’s all.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. The way I would phrase it is that politics is more fundamentally existential than it is moral. Like, politics is not there to decide over all moral questions. A lot of that is left to the domain of your personal life. The point of politics is to secure peace and security for your people.

 

Basically, the reason why we have to come together and form governments and form big societies is because we need a powerful entity to stand up for us against all the other potential powerful entities in this world that are going to come and take our shit and fuck us over. Because we live in a hostile world. There’s many other groups in this world that don’t give a shit about you. They don’t give a shit about your family, I don’t give a shit about your country. And they want to take as much from you and your people as they can.

 

And the reason why you need politics is so that you can have guys that are on your side that understand that our group, our people need to stand up and defend ourselves to protect what is ours from that hostile world.

 

So that’s what politics is about. It’s about securing a future, securing your way of life. It’s not about deciding on all these moral questions. So, like, for example, I see in my Telegram chat or on Twitter, like a basically endless argument, for example, between Christians and pagans that agree on White nationalism, and they get into this massive back and forth. And this is a very intellectually interesting debate. And it’s an important debate, like your personal decision, but whether you are a Christian or not, or a pagan or not, or whatever is actually very important, obviously.

 

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But when it gets to the point where you’re dividing the entire movement on the basis of this other issue, and therefore you’re dividing Whiteman power, you’re dividing pro-White resources, and you’re basically limiting our capacity to build the most powerful possible movement to defend our people’s interests, well, then it’s actually destroying the point of this. The point of this movement is securing a future for White people, and particularly in Australia, it’s for securing this future for White Australians and White Australia. That’s what this is about.

 

There’s other issues that are important, but they aren’t essential to that goal. And so there has to be a kind of marginalisation of things which aren’t essential to the political movement from the political movement where we can agree to disagree and work together upon securing a future for our people.

 

And obviously you’re going to go to, one group’s going to go to church, one group’s going to do whatever.

 

And once the ethno-state is secured and all enemy threats have been neutralised, then you guys can debate over are we going to have Christian White Australia or pagan White Australia or whatever? If you really want to.

 

But, you know, now is not the time for that. And there’s so much like ideological spurgery where people want to debate minutiae rather than getting done to the brass tacks of how the hell are we going to get manpower and resources organised to defend our fucking race? How are we going to make sure our race fucking survives?

 

And if you’re not operating on that level where that’s the main focus of what you care about and what you’re doing when you’re in the White nationalist movement online, if instead you’re going on in the White nationalist movement online and all you’re doing is engaging in e-drama against other White nationalists and picking fights over like, dumb shit and arguing over, yeah, as I said, ideological minutiae or whatever, that is tangential to the essential points of how we’re going to progress the movement, how are we going to advance our people, then like, what the fuck are you doing? You’re not in the White nationalist movement. You’re not actually engaging in politics per se. You’re just like, hanging out on the Internet, getting into frivolous arguments.

 

So that’s something that’s very important, I think, where we must focus upon the core, as Blair said, like, who are we? Who are we against? And how are we going to advance our cause against the enemy and just be like, very single mindedly focused upon those objectives. And if we can get our attention and focus on those objectives and our money and time focus on those objectives, then we have a fucking chance of surviving as a race. But otherwise we’re just going to be having these dumb spurgy arguments for the 4,000,000th time on the:

 

“Oh, all pagans are jews, all Christians are jews!”

 

Or whatever.

 

Blair Cottrell: All we have to do is survive, …

 

Joel Davis: Calling each other jewish, communist. And it’s like, what the fuck are we doing here? You know what I mean?

 

Blair Cottrell: The simple nature of our struggle too, is all we have to do is survive. I think I said it on last stream, or the stream before that we’re a race that so long as we survive in our most basic form and we don’t become overly diluted, if we have the same opportunity to procreate, flourish, then we eventually adapt, win, overcome. We become master of the world. That’s why there’s such a strong genocide effort against our race right now. Because in order to win against White people, you need to ethnically destroy them. If you don’t, they eventually rise, win, adapt, and become master of the world again. So all we have to do is survive as a race, and by default we end up winning as a result of our own genetic predisposition.

 

Joel Davis: And like, I understand that a lot of these arguments are actually important, and there’s a space for them. Like, if there’s intellectual content creators and there’s an intellectual, and I engage in that sometimes as well. But we have to learn how to bracket that from the political, that, like, we can have that argument in the intellectual space of the free marketplace of ideas, and we can debate these subjects, but we need to be able to bracket the political friend-enemy distinction from that and say:

 

“Well, at the end of the day, I don’t agree with this person on this issue and that issue, but we need to have some kind of coordination or some kind of allegiance or loyalty to one another if we’re going to get out of this as a race.”

 

Because if we have, like, every different ideological sub faction and religious sub faction and so on splintering off and doing their own thing, that isn’t going to cut it. We need to be pro-White first and foremost. That has to be the essential principle of the movement. Race has to be the foundation. That’s the only foundation which is the correct foundation!

 

First of all, because we are being attacked as a race by the enemy. Fundamentally, the enemy is coming after us because of our race, not because of any of these other details. And they’re coming after us as a race. So we have to defend ourselves as a race.

 

But secondarily, race is the only principle which is going to be strong enough to build a political movement around to resist this.

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s because it’s the most integral, fundamental identity that you can use to identify yourself, right? Like Christian, pagan, Catholic, Protestant, and various other social political identities they’re all just abstract. They exist inside your mind and you can change them tomorrow. Like, I can wake up tomorrow and decide I’m going to be Catholic. I can wake up tomorrow and decide that I’m going to be Protestant of some degree. But I can’t wake up tomorrow and decide I’m going to be black, or a different race. I’m like, genetically this race. This is who I am, and it’s a result of hundreds, thousands of years of survival, through my family lineage, and that is my most fundamental identity, as is the same for you if you’re watching this stream. So you’ve really got to boil it down to that, because that’s the most important fundamental identity that you can have the understanding of, right? That’s who you are.

 

Joel Davis: It also, like these other things are important. Religion and everything is important, but as a principle of unity, because politics is a team sport, politics it’s not a individual sport. You know MMA is a sport for individuals. Like, you need a team to train with and stuff, but politics is a team sport. You need a big team. If you try to play a team sport with not enough players against a full strength team, you get smacked. That’s why if you play soccer and half your team gets red carded, well, you’re going to lose. You know, if it’s five to eleven, you’re going to lose.

 

And White people are playing like, one vs eleven because everyone wants to be an individual and we’re so atomized, but then also we’re like, intellectually atomized and so on. And we have to just at the end of the day, be, we’re on the same team. You don’t have to like everyone on your team. You don’t actually have to like everyone on your team. You can think there’s a bunch of people on your team that are shit people and they’re fucking retards! But they’re on your fucking team! And we win as a team or we lose as a team. Like, White people win as a race or we lose as a race. That’s how this is going to go down.

 

So we need to play as a team to the fullest extent possible.

 

And then, yeah, once we win, then we can go back to fucking our disputes and differences and so on. And they are totally legitimate disputes and differences. Like, I’m not denying their importance, but we are born into a time in history of race war. Race war is already happening. Like, the race war isn’t going to happen at some point.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s arguably been a constant for known human history.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah. We are born into a race war. Like, the invaders are in our country, the shit skins are raping the women, they’re breeding with our tribe, they’re taking over our institutions. You know, the jews are controlling the banks, they’re controlling the media, they’re controlling the government. They’ve got all that third world invaders taking all these positions of power and all the systems in place to elevate them to rule over us. Like, we’re already being occupied by, like, alien forces that are systematically using state repression to prevent us from organising. Like, the race war is already here. You’re in a race war!

 

So it’s like you can have all your arguments about everything else, but it’s like, do you want to fucking win or lose? I want my grandchildren to not be a persecuted minority in the land that their forefathers built. I want them to actually have protection. I want them to have their own country that’s going to take care of them.

 

So that’s what this is about! And a lot of people somehow managed to lose sight of that. And it’s actually quite frustrating.

 

I don’t know if you have thoughts on this, Tom.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ve expressed my feelings on this many times on the show, and I don’t really want to repeat myself. To have a sort of fresh, fresh eyes on its a very good point this idea that it’s a team sport, we’ve got to stop thinking about it as individuals. Lot of people that just want to be left alone, and you need to take your politics to its logical conclusion. You can be left alone for now and maybe next year, and the year after and the year after, but you’re just kicking the can down the road.

 

At some point, we need to solve the problem. There is a problem, an existential problem, or a problem for the existence of our people, and we are slowly becoming a minority in our countries, and we have to put a stop to that! And we’re in a stronger position to put a stuff to it now, rather than later.

 

So let’s deal with it now!

 

Anyone that’s like:

 

“Oh, well, actually, I’m going to stay as embedded in the system as possible and I might send a Superchat and yeah, I’ll consume content, but, yeah, like, I’ll just I’ll just keep working on my career. And that’s the priority because then I can pay for my 2.5 kids and a Labrador in a city.”

 

It’s like:

 

“Okay, and then what are your kids gonna do?”

 

And really disagree fundamentally with the strategy, the life strategy of:

 

“Well, we’ll just build the tower taller and then we won’t have to smell the shit!”

 

It’s like, no, let’s just clean up the shit! Like, let’s just solve the problem. And then your children, whatever they do in life, they’re gonna just kick goals, they’re gonna succeed, they’re gonna be winning, because they’re going to be growing up in a healthy society, and that’s just not the future that’s destined for them on the current trajectory.

 

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So we have to be radical in changing that trajectory and not giving a fuck about what traitors and faggots and weaklings think about how we should change it.

 

So in summary, it comes down to a triumph of the will. It comes down to, as an individual, are you subject to or subject of this society, or are you going to contribute to building a better society?

 

And I think that’s really what it comes down to, this master and slave morality. If you have a slave morality, then you’re subject to society’s whims. You know, if it’s socially acceptable to be X or Y or Z, then you’ll do it, because it’s socially acceptable:

 

“It’s not socially acceptable the moment to be a Nazi!”

 

It’s like, well, it’s fucking never going to be with that attitude!

 

So why don’t you just stop caring about what it is or isn’t to be socially acceptable in a society that glorifies faggots and traitors and fucking merchants! That’s the faggot society we live in. It glorifies that shit! Why don’t you not care about that? Why don’t you have a solar morality, or a master morality where it’s:

 

“Well, actually I value these things. I value integrity. I value honour, I value our race, I value our culture, I value our heritage. I don’t actually care about society’s values. It’s society that needs to change, not me!”

 

And when you bring that attitude to the table now, you’re more committed to solving the problem.

 

And what I’ll finish with is Western Chauvinist, if you don’t follow them already on Telegram or Twitter, you should. Western Chauvinist shared something today that was a good summary of what all the critics have of us and our model and our worldview. And it’s in quotation marks:

 

“You think you’re going to win by meeting up with guys to box in the park?”

 

End quotation mark. And what Western Chauvinist replies to this is he says:

 

“No, I think we’re going to win by organising. You can’t organise seriously with a bunch of risk adverse, conflict avoidant podcast fans. If someone will meet in the park to train with you, they’re infinitely more committed to the cause than someone who sends Superchats to their preferred online hot taker. If your entire connection to the cause can be cut off by your phone running out of battery, you’re not doing anything.”

 

And that’s what I’ll finish on. That’s where power comes from small groups of men and their families banding together and forming local community. They’re only able to do the kind of shit they’re doing to us at the moment, like the horrible treatment that they’re having of us, because we’re atomized.

 

Despite the fact that we’re still a majority in our own country, we’re an atomized majority! We’re an alienated majority! We don’t have community that is 100% clear as to what its community purpose is. We have all these sub communities within the White race. We have Richmond Football Club or Carlton Football Club. We have the Diggers Club or the RSL. We have the Rotary Club. We have, you know, it just infinite White people clubs. Infinite White people clubs, but none of them are explicitly White. We have infinite White people clubs, but also zero White people clubs! Because they’re not explicit.

 

So for us to secure an existence for our people, a future for our children, we have to make explicit organisations that stand on that bedrock of race! And be unafraid and confrontational and prepared to bear the brunt of that.

 

So when you go down that path, you will initially lose. When you go down that path, so lose is the wrong word. You will initially have loss. And that’s what everyone’s afraid of that’s why people don’t want to do it, because you’re afraid of that initial loss. I understand that loss is not nice. But to grow, you have to have trauma. To grow, you have to have stress.

 

Blair Cottrell: You only, like doctrine is written in blood. You only actually learn by losing, adapting, and sort of growing as a result. If you never lose, you never learn anything. And you never actually develop the necessary adaptations to prevent yourself from losing in that same way again.

 

And so the more we lose, the stronger we get.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, you will lose family. You will lose friends. You will lose privileges. You will lose maybe extra income. You know, you will lose career prospects. You will initially have loss. And those losses will be a sacrifice. They will all add up.

 

But it’s highly unlikely that 99.9% of you, while things are still peaceful, are going to be killed. You’re actually more likely to die in a car crash than from being a nationalist. So far, we haven’t had a single nationalist in Australia this decade assassinated. Not one! We’ve had one terrorist attack against us, one serious one, and a few minor ones. But these are publicly facing spokespeople. We’re not asking anyone to do that. We’re asking for men to stand with us in the street and to be part of our community and for our wives to know your wives and for our kids to grow up together so that they’re not growing up around all the freaks in society. You know, we’re trying to build. That’s what we mean by parallel community.

 

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So, yeah, we’re at the Spearhead, we’re at the vanguard. We’re at the forefront. But there is no reason why you can’t be in a supporting role with that.

 

But in the absence of that, as I said earlier in the show, we are trying to build a way to incorporate more people into the broader, another ring or another circle to our movement. If we’ve got a kind of inner circle and an outer circle, we’re building another circle, a supportive circle.

 

But that is still, like, what we really need more than just money and finances to push the movement into the next area that it needs to go, which is more professional, more facilities. We need support in managing the whole operation as well, financial support. What we need also is people to come to events.

 

So we have all of our community meetings, we have all of our protests, stuff like this. We understand if people want to be risk averse to that, but we need people to come out in person, in real life, to events, whether they be ticketed events, whether they be like, once or twice a year at a national meetup. We’re not asking you to necessarily be in black block and march in the street with us. We understand that the apprehension for some people to do that, for a lot of people to do that.

 

But, you know, it would be good to have you on the mailing list. It would be good to be able to send you guys stuff, physical stuff that we can produce, when we’ve got all that sort of stuff set up, of showing you what we’ve done, like progress reports, monthly reports of:

 

“Hey, this is what we’ve done. This is the activism we did. This is the training we did, this is the meetups we did.”

 

Stuff like that would be awesome to have in order to continue to build community.

 

And then when we do have these events, you can be actually there, you can be present, you can be a live listener.

 

And then that in itself, even if it’s just a photo of the back of your head, in a crowd of 100 or 200 or 300 or 500 people, that in itself encourages other people to get involved at different levels, at different capacities. So your sacrifice, what you risk and what you sacrifice, actually pays into a spiritual fund. I know this sounds a bit ridiculous, but your sacrifice, everything you lose, it actually contributes ultimately to our victory. Because when enough people have sacrificed enough, then we win. And it’s going to take a lot of men and a lot of families and a lot of sacrifice, a lot of time, a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get where we need to go. I’ll finish there.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think we should maybe start getting into the Superchats. Cause we’ve been going for a while now.

 

But my final thoughts on this. You know, one of the main criticisms that we get is that we refer to ourselves as National Socialists ideologically. And the view is that people would be willing to organise around White nationalism, but National Socialism freaks people out or something. This is the argument. And my response to that is that I think, and we think, that until National Socialism is seen as something positive for a large portion of the community, they will be too cucked to actually organise a revolutionary, pro-White movement, because of all the things that are bound up with that.

 

Now, I can understand you say:

 

“Should we use the swastika as a symbol?”

 

And these are all like interesting arguments or whatever, but as a basic point, if you are willing to put your race first and organise around on the basis of race, you are going to at the very least, be kind of open minded to the idea that National Socialism is a good idea. You’re not going to be freaked out like:

 

“That’s a horrible, evil thing!”

 

But also additionally, the main way in which people get freaked out that being a pro-White or being White nationalist is a horrible, evil thing is implicit in this argument is through its association to National Socialism. So that means we’re going to have to do some work to try and give National Socialism a new meaning and a difference of perspective in the community. We have to do some work to normalise National Socialism.

 

We’re going to have to do some work, get people comfortable with and supportive of National Socialism to break that spell! Because that spectre is still going to be there. Like, if you make, if we make an organisation, it’s purely just called “White nationalists”. It’s purely White nationalists. There’s no explicit association with National Socialists. You’re going to get called Nazis! And there’s going to be this spectre of:

 

“Well, what do you think about Hitler and the Holocaust?”

 

And like, this whole thing is still going to be like this spectre, like lingering over the movement that you can’t step over.

 

And if you basically refuse to then go out and actually defend National Socialism or talk about it in a positive light and just try and avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid! That thing is going to stay there. It’s going to be this thing hanging over your head entirely, and you’re doing absolutely nothing to fight back against it or break the spell, because you’re afraid of breaking the spell because you think that:

 

“Well, that’s extra work if we have to break the spell and advance White nationalism. Now we’re doing two things. Wouldn’t it just be easier if we could just advance White nationalism?”

 

And it’s like, no! We actually have to break the spell. I don’t think we’re actually going to be able to get there without doing some spell-breaking.

 

[2:23:53]

 

So that’s why we’re taking the hard road of breaking the spell. But we’re creating a new brand of White nationalism. It’s going to be this Australian 21st century. It’s not a copy and paste. We don’t have the same uniformity. We have a lot of differences with our own personality. We’re going to do a new form of this. And, yeah, we’re going to talk about what we like, about what the Germans did and so on, but it’s going to be our version, it’s going to be different, and it has our characteristics. And as it grows, it’s going to have all these very 21st century Australian characteristics, because we’re very 21st century Australians. If, you know, us, you see us, we’re kind of normal Aussie guys. We’re nothing doing like this German larp on the basis of some German fetishism. But we do take inspiration from that movement, because within European, and particularly Germanic, and we’re a Germanic nation. We’re not a German nation, but we’re a Germanic people. A Celto-Germanic people. The Australian nation, in its core.

 

The one political ideology that stood up to liberalism and communism successfully was National Socialism! There isn’t actually another ideology in the modern world that has done that.

 

So that’s why we’re taking our cues from that, because that’s what we’re trying to do here, because we see these two other option ideologies as both ideologies that are trying to genocide our fucking race!

 

So that’s what’s happening.

 

So to me, like, that’s our position. You might disagree, but deal with that particular argument. The argument that we’re always. I’m always hearing is that if we just step over National Socialism and pretend it doesn’t exist and say that we aren’t Nazis and just completely avoid the subject, that somehow, by magic, this will prevent us from having to defend ourselves from the accusations or deal with the subject of National Socialism in any capacity. You’re not going to be able to do that. Sorry!

 

So we’re going to have to normalise this.

 

That’s why it’s so good! Hitler’s going viral on TikTok. And people are making videos about World War Two revisionism, and David Irving and his books need to be promoted. And we need to talk about these things we talked about, like the Tucker Carlson interview the other day with the revisionist historian and so on. This stuff is also fucking important because we need to break the spell and we need to put all of our energy behind breaking the spell. And White people need to develop a positive view of Adolf Hitler en masse. They need to develop a positive view of National Socialism. You then have to become necessarily ideological National Socialists. They need to develop a positive view, or at least a neutral view and a kind of more objective view. Where right now no one is even really doing that except for us on the fringe because of this spell.

 

So we’re trying to break that spell. We’re trying to present a form of National Socialism contemporary in the modern day to, for people to relate to and support. And that’s one of the key ways in which that spell is going to be broken. So that’s what I have to say about that.

 

If you want to say something about that, Tom, you can. Otherwise we’ll get into the Superchats.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I think it’s being covered. We should go into the Superchats.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So Rose Rock.

 

Thomas Sewell: Let’s do the first one.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Rose Rock 444 said:

 

“Why do you support Fuentes? He pushes inceldom and finds non-White women more attractive than White women. Not to mention he simps for nons like Candace Owens and Muslims.”

 

I have a suspicion that Rose Rock 444 is a woman. I don’t know, but we.

 

Thomas Sewell: How out of touch is that commentary, though?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, if you watch the show last week. I’ve listened into a few of Fuentes’s shows this week and he basically talks shit about me in every single episode.

 

So we’re not exactly getting along so great lately. But yeah I don’t know, whatever comments that he made about non-White women being more attractive or not, that’s not really, … The substance of our disagreement is about political strategy. I don’t know. All the comments that he’s made on all of these subjects. Simping for Candace Owens was pretty cringe, though. I remember seeing that.

 

Warbow 84, said:

 

“Here’s my $20. Great show. See you guys next week.”

 

Thanks, man. Ghost dog Man’s did like one of, like the little o’s with like, the slash, like throwing a Roman. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Here’s my $200 for the week. Spend it wisely.”

 

But he only sent $1, so I don’t know.

 

Blair Cottrell: What does he mean by that? I saw that earlier. I thought, what does he mean by that?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you owe me $199, dude!

 

Blair Cottrell: By the end of the week, too. By the end of the week. You have to be man of your word in this stream, bro.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think he probably just clicked the wrong button.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know. Ferryman 47. I don’t know if that’s Ferryman as in from Ferryman’s Toll in Canada, but friend of the show. He sent $14. He said:

 

“Cheers, boys!”

 

Duke of Meme said:

 

“I was not full blown White nationalist until you said, you want to ban LED lights, Blair, please take complete control of Australia!”

 

There you go. You won someone over.

 

[2:29:18]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Don’t worry, I hate them enough to actually implicate an immediate ban if I’m ever in a position to do so.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Adolf Caesar said:

 

“Good evening, White men. Do we have any NS literature from Australia?”

 

I’m not sure if there’s explicit ideologically National Socialist literature that is from Australia. There’s a lot of White nationalist literature. I don’t know. Tom, are you aware of anything that’s explicitly NS, that’s been written?

 

Blair Cottrell: I have a feeling there’s something, but nothing’s coming to mind immediately.

 

Thomas Sewell: First thing that came to mind wasn’t explicitly National Socialist, but interestingly, some of the first works done at the beginning of the 20th century on neo-Paganism was done by an Australian, and he actually went and visited the fascists and National Socialists in Europe, as Alexander Rud Mills*. So that’s sort of proto-NS stuff.

 

But, yeah, I can’t really think of anything. I mean, Jacob would know. I mean, there’s a lot of Australiana literature that is pretty close. I mean, Jack Lang** wrote pretty similar.

 

[* Alexander Rud Mills was an Australian barrister and writer, interned in 1942 for his National Socialist sympathies and fascist beliefs. He was also a prominent Odinist, one of the earliest proponents of the rebirth of Germanic Neopaganism in the 20th century, and an anti-semite. He founded the First Anglecyn Church of Odin in Melbourne in 1936. He published under his own name and the pen-names “Tasman Forth” and “Justinian”. Wikipedia]

[** John Thomas Lang (21 December 1876 – 27 September 1975), usually referred to as J. Lang during his career and familiarly known as “Jack” and nicknamed “The Big Fella”, was an Australian politician, mainly for the New South Wales Branch of the Labor Party. He twice served as the 23rd Premier of New South Wales from 1925 to 1927 and again from 1930 to 1932. He was dismissed by the Governor of New South Wales, Sir Philip Game, at the climax of the 1932 constitutional crisis and resoundingly lost the resulting election and subsequent elections as Leader of the Opposition. He later formed Lang Labour that contested federal and state elections and was briefly a member of the Australian House of Representatives. Wikipedia]

Joel Davis: Jack Lang was a little bit more like of a liberal socialist that was also a White nationalist.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. It’s all sort of proto-National Socialist stuff. I wouldn’t say it’s explicitly like post World War Two. I can’t think of anyone post World War Two, any Australian that stands out in terms of National Socialist literature.

 

Joel Davis: Well, I’ll be, I’ll be writing some. So there you go. You’ll get some from Joel Davis. I’m cooking things up. I got a lot of draughts, and I’ll start putting some things out in short order. Eventually, I will write a book. I’ve been cooking ideas up for many years.

 

So, yeah, you’ll get some. Joel Davis, Australian NS literature. So there you go. Keep an eye out for that.

 

Thomas Sewell: I wrote two draughts, a fiction and a nonfiction book when I was in prison. I just don’t find it, I don’t think it’s appropriate to publish. I want to do something better. So I’ll either rework it or I’ll write something else from scratch. But my book projects definitely on the back burner. I’m focusing on just putting a roof over our heads as a movement. And for my own family to begin. And things like books, I think they can age better with time.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I know that as I get older, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m not rushing it.

 

Joel Davis: I’ll become more and more of a writer and speaker, intellectual type, and it won’t be doing as much on the ground work on the streets. You know, at some point you get, when you’re an old man, that’s kind of like your main thing that you can do because you’re just old and old! So but that doesn’t mean I’m going to wait till then to get started.

 

Ethan 4BD1 said:

 

“Australia for the Whiteman. Destroy pedo freaks!”

 

Indeed. And Leviran, or, yeah, Leviran said:

 

“If you are watching this and you’re under 30 years old and you haven’t joined a nationalist organisation to serve your people, then you are a pussy! Australia for the Whiteman and Reclaim America!”

 

I think Reclaim America is like a Patriot Front slogan. So maybe he is a Patriot Front, bro.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why at 30?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. If you’re in your early thirties, you can still join, or even late thirties. I mean, we have guys that are in their forties in the Org.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is 30 old? Why, is that what’s being implied, that 30s old?

 

Thomas Sewell: Our oldest member is 64, and our oldest supporter, I think, is 74.

 

So, yeah, there’s no excuse. I don’t think age is a factor. It just, age to me just means there’s so many different cliques, social cliques within our Org and within the wider movement. Age is not a determining factor as to whether you should join or not. Age is just a factor of what you participate in and what you can participate in. You know, you might not be doing Muay Thai at the park, but you can man the barbecue and hang out with the other old guys. Like, there’s not really any excuse. There’s a place for everyone.

 

Like, not everyone, obviously. Like, we don’t want the scum and filth of society, but there’s a place for every, like, honourable Whiteman and his family in our organisation, no matter how old you are. Yeah, I would say we don’t recruit anyone under the age of 16 just because of the maturity level.

 

The majority of 15 year old boys are just not politically mature enough to take this seriously. It’s usually irony. But, yeah, we’ve got guys in their late teens and they’re obviously always keen as mustard because there’s genius, not just genius in the youth, but there is energy in the youth. The youth have a natural, … I think it’s Kurt Eggers*. Kurt Eggers talks about it. He was a National Socialist. He was a high ranking officer and part of the propaganda department as well. And he actually died in combat. He actually asked to be sent back to the front lines.

 

[* Kurt Eggers (10 November 1905 – 12 August 1943) War correspondent and writer (1905-1943) Kurt Eggers was a German writer, poet, songwriter, and playwright with close links to the Nazi Party. He served as both a member of a propaganda company and as a Waffen-SS soldier at the rank of Mann in World War II, he was killed while serving in a tank regiment on the Eastern Front by the Red Army. He had four children by his second wife, Traute Kaiser, whose father was a pastor. Wikipedia]

 

And I think he died in the battle of Kursk. But he was a tank commander and he dropped out. Not dropped out of school, but during the summer holidays. He actually went and fought in the Freikorps* when he was 13 years old. And he actually writes about how the youth have a natural instinct. The more masculine boys have an instinct of what’s right, what’s wrong. They have a moral strength to do, to do righteous duty. And in his case, in Egger’s case, it was killing communists.

 

[* Freikorps (German “Free Corps” or “Volunteer Corps” were irregular German and other European paramilitary volunteer units that existed from the 18th to the early 20th centuries. In the aftermath of World War I and during the German Revolution of 1918–19, Freikorps, consisting partially of World War I veterans, were raised as paramilitary militias. They were ostensibly mustered to fight on behalf of the government against the German communists attempting to overthrow the Weimar Republic. Wikipedia]

 

So we’re not asking anyone to do that. Not at this stage, certainly! But it’d be good to just be involved and put some stickers up. And have a good positive outlet, like physical training and being around people that are not fucking faggots!

 

[2:35:28]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, for sure. White Zealot said:

 

“Hail our people! We’re going to win!”

 

Operation Werewolf said:

 

“Support your local nationalist.”

 

And GoyBoy 1488. He always reliably sends $14.88 Superchats on Odysee. He said:

 

“Good morning, lads. Is a bottle shop a liquor store?”

 

Yeah, it is. We call liquor stores “bottle shops” in Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: Those Odysee Superchats, they actually translate into cash. Is that the way they work?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s cool! I didn’t know that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. GoyBoy 1488 also said:

 

“Can you win before the Australian government changes the laws to shut you down? And what do you think about an episode with Warren Balogh discussing different strategy between Australia and the USA? Hail lads!”

 

Yeah, I’d be open to doing a show with Warren if he was interested. I met Warren in England last year, and he is a supreme gentleman, and so I’d be more than happy to have a conversation with him. Speaking of that crowd of people, I don’t know if Warren and Mike Penovich are still associated, but actually didn’t make a plan with Mike, also known as Mike Enoch from the TRS network, to do a stream, because he’s very clued in on the goings on with Israel. And also he’s just a very well educated anti-semite, Mike Enoch.

 

So I wanted to get him on to talk about all the shit that’s kicking off in Israel right now. It’s getting pretty hot between Israel and Hezbollah, and there’s bombings. And that’s the tensions there are escalating very seriously, and that’s potentially a powder keg that could turn into a major war.

 

And obviously that has a lot of permutations for American politics and how this election goes and the implications of how the election would go potentially on a conflict in the Middle East and so on. Because Hezbollah going to war with Israel. A lot of commentators think that Hezbollah would crush Israel. So then does America have to come in and save Israel and does that drag Iran in? There’s a lot that becomes complicated.

 

So that’s a very interesting discussion about what’s happening there, because that could end up being. I don’t think it’ll kick off in the next few weeks, but that’s an ongoing issue that could turn into a major war perhaps over the next twelve months or something. So I thought we’d do a stream talking about that because I think you would have a lot of interesting things to say. So keep an eye for that. I think maybe on the weekend we’re going to try and do that. I’ll announce it on social media.

 

The Gump said:

 

“The so-called multicultural alliance against the jews is the dumbest shit I’ve heard in a long time. Either they are delusional cowards or ill willed.”

 

Obviously, to the people promoting this:

 

“It’s a weak position. It’s not pro-White, but a humanistic, Left-wing worldview. Epic performance by Joel in that Twitter debate. No compromise.”

 

I think he’s referring to, I argued about this subject in a series of Twitter Spaces or X Spaces earlier in the week and last week. We don’t necessarily have to rehash that, but, yeah, but there’s a kind of clique of people that are promoting a kind of:

 

“Oh, Joel you guys, you’re putting too much energy into opposing non-White immigration and non-Whites in general. We should just focus all our energy on the jews!”

 

No, I don’t agree with that. And we should, like:

 

“Build, like, an alliance with these non-Whites against the jews.”

 

And I don’t think that that makes any sense for various reasons, but I’m not going to rehash the point.

 

Thomas Sewell: What I’ll quickly say is one of the fundamental issues with the groipers or the groypers is that they criticise a strategy, like ours, because it’s not liberal enough. They want us to be more liberal. But then they criticise the fact that the country’s falling apart because it’s too liberal.

 

So they’re just delusional. They think that the solution to the problem is the perfect amount of liberalism. Currently:

 

“The state, too liberal! But the Nazis, not liberal enough!”

 

And it’s like, okay, so there’s this golden liberalism. Is there somewhere in the middle that’s going to solve the problem? Well, actually, it doesn’t work like that. This liberal chaos that we’re in, it’s like a poison. And there’s not a golden amount of it’s already passed. It’s in motion. It’s in movement. We’ve moved through liberalism. It was the decline of monarchy. We’ve moved through it, and now we’re at the end state of liberalism. This really is the true liberalism, and there’s no going back to the correct amount of liberalism. So they are just delusional.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I don’t think it’s necessarily even a lot of the groypers that are the main offenders of this because they entertained the alliance with the Muslims for a time period and then have now, like, turned back upon that and readjusted. They kind of flip-flopped on that.

 

So that’s one thing, but there’s a lot of other commentators, mostly they’re just Twitter personalities and Twitter accounts that are still promoting this idea. There’s no, like, formal organisation in the world that is a multicultural, anti-jewish organisation. Like, that doesn’t exist. And I don’t think it will ever exist because I don’t think you can build a political movement on that foundation. It’s not going to be a principle of unity that you can organise as a political first principle, just simply being against jews. Like you have to be for something.

 

[2:41:24]

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly! You can’t build a movement on a negation.

 

But in saying that, Blair’s just darted. He, maybe his phone ran out of battery. But I’m gonna head off as well. It’s quarter to twelve and although I don’t work tomorrow because it’s a public holiday.

 

Joel Davis: Well, we only have a few more Superchats, start going through them.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. But I went through, I just scrolled through them. It’s like:

 

“Yeah, over 5K viewers. Awesome stuff, guys. Everyone starts off as a larper until one day, …”

 

Joel Davis: There’s a few on the Entropy as well, that’s why I’m gonna go through.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re not really discussive. I guess you can read them out. I’m calling it a night.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. All good. See you later. GoyBoy said, … Hail Hitler, motherfucker! Jews, quote, this is a quote:

 

“Jews donate money to political groups, therefore you are being jewish. If you fund a ‘political group’, quote unquote, has got to be the most retarded popular argument I’ve ever heard. I hate spending my money, but funding our people is my favourite use for it.”

 

Yeah. I don’t know if that’s really the exact statement of their argument, but basically, yeah, there’s either one group of people who are like:

 

“We don’t need money because we’ve got guns in America and we’re going to have a civil war against the enemies!”

 

And it’s like, all right, well, civil war. If you, let’s just say that that’s what you’re gonna do. Civil wars cost money. You got to buy a lot of if you want to do a civil war. So wars are pretty much the most expensive possible fucking thing! So whether you’re gonna do a civil war, whether you’re gonna do a political party, whether you’re gonna do a lobby group, an activist organisation, some community project or combination of a bunch of these things or whatever you’re going to do, everything costs money! So at some point, White people are going to have to come together and put money into the same pot, the pro-White pot. That’s just a brute force reality. And the jews do it. The jews are putting billions into the pro-jewish pot and we’re putting nothing into the pro-White pot. And that’s one of the essential reasons why we lose.

 

And a lot of people don’t like saying that because it comes across as like they’re begging for money. I’m not saying give me money! But give someone that’s give some pro-White project money. Right? Like we need to stop putting money in together as a group. Like this is just a general statement. Like, it’s not about anything to do with me personally or anything I’m associated with necessarily.

 

But it’s the principle. It’s a basic brute force principle.

 

And also it’s important to point out, because there’s an attitude, like I said earlier, that we need rich people to put money in. No, we actually need average people to all chip in and you don’t have to put all your money in. Just like something that is affordable for everyone. If everyone does their part and chips in, that we have a lot of money there. I talked about the NSDAP funding itself like that through rank and file dues paying members. That is true. That’s one example.

 

Another example is the Australian Labor Party back when the Australian Labor Party defended White nationalism and defended the White Australia Policy, it was funded by Australian workers paying their union dues.

 

And basically, like the unions funded the Labor Party and the unions. And in those days were White nationalist unions, you know, creating some kind of White nationalist Labour union or nationalist Labour union in Australia. That’s a project that would be interesting if people want to work on that. There is the National Workers Alliance. I don’t think they’re really a union per se, but they’re getting set up. They’re nationalists and they’re getting set up down here in Victoria, putting on events. I would love to see something like that come into existence as well. I think that could be a very powerful way to build White solidarity, and get White resources together and relate to the Australian worker. Because the current union movement, the union movement is basically taken over by communists. And it’s also been taken over just by like cynical actors in Australia.

 

There’s been a lot of controversy recently about the CFMEU, which is the construction workers union. And it has like supposedly corrupt leaders and they’re engaging in extralegal methods of violence to get their way and so on. And they’re currently being taken on by elements of the government and the media. But what is basically going to happen and what is already happening is that they’re just installing ideological Marxists to fully take over these unions.

 

So it’s like, yeah, the guys that run a lot of these major unions are just like scum. Like John Setka, for example. He’s like unprincipled, piece of shit, Machiavellian type, that is just exploiting it for personal gain. But it’s like, he’s a piece of shit! But at least he’s not like a full ideological Marxist. Watch! It will be replaced with full on ideological Marxists. That will make the whole purpose of the CFMEU Aboriginal rights and fucking LGBTQ rights and refugee rights and all this nonsense, like far-Left nonsense, like the Greens Party platform will become the union platform. Watch this space.

 

Like, that kind of shit is coming. It’s already starting to be implemented. A lot of these unions, because these unions have already been thoroughly infiltrated by communists and they’re going to entrench their power over the unions. That’s going to alienate a lot of workers. A lot of the rank and file workers are nationalists are right of centre, don’t want to be paying dues into something like that. If an alternative can be built for these people that will represent their interests, their political interests more directly. The Australian worker has an interest in immigration being halted, because not only is it causing cost of living pressures, but it’s creating., … There’s a reason why big business support immigration. It’s because you bring immigrants in, it creates downward pressure on the labour market and it drives wages down. And so it’s great for business, it’s bad for workers.

 

So one of the main priorities of workers movement, the Labour union movement, if it was actually doing what it supposedly exists for, which is to defend the interests of workers, would be to oppose immigration. But they don’t do that! Because they’ve been taken over by Marxists and cynical political actors that don’t really want to swim against the political currents because they’re just there essentially siphoning off wealth for themselves and their buddies. So, yeah, anyway, I don’t want to go on too much of a rant about that.

 

[2:48:04]

 

Clive Cutler said:

 

“Howdy, lads.”

 

And J5 said:

 

“Good morning, guys from the northwest, just tuned in. Hey, what’s going on with Tom’s GiveSendGo for the White compound? Is there a new way to donate to it?”

 

So basically what happened was that GiveSendGo refunded all the money that was donated. So there was like 16 grand, I think, donated. They refunded the money to everyone who donated. Because of political pressure from the media and the government, they eventually buckled.

 

So that’s kind of gay that GiveSendGo buckled to the pressure, to be honest. So I thought, GiveSendGo, we promoted them on the stream before as one of the few platforms that kind of stood up to this kind of thing, but they cucked, so, you know, shame on them. And, yeah, so that money, if you did Chuck in, you should have got a refund. You should look into it. Maybe if you don’t know if you did get one and chase up GiveSendGo to make sure that you do get your money back because we didn’t get any of it. So we want to make sure you get your money back.

 

And we’re working on a solution. It’s difficult to figure out exactly how to receive money. We have to, to, from a legal standpoint, we’re going to have to set up some kind of not for profit and register that so we can legally do it correctly and at the same time figuring out all the payment processes and everything so that it’s secure and we don’t get de-platformed and all the rest of it.

 

So we’re currently working on that internally. Yeah, we’ll let when we get it all established. Obviously, it’s challenging and we’ve been kicked off already a bunch of platforms and the state breathed down our neck, and it’s going to try and take as much of it as tax if we don’t do something like register as a not for profit, or maybe some kind of other kind of entity that won’t just gobble up your donations in taxation, which obviously shouldn’t. Like technically, under Australian law, gifts aren’t taxable.

 

But that you know, we got to look into that legally. Castlight Commander said:

 

“Love the show, guys. Keep building from an American friend.”

 

And we love our Americans. Jake 313 said:

 

“Question on Salms [sp], yay or nay? Personal insights would be appreciated.”

 

Well, this is one that it would be better if Blair was here for, because Psalms some kind of steroid. I don’t really know anything about steroids. I’ve never done steroids. I never really researched steroids. So I’m the wrong guy. So but maybe if you want Blair’s insights on that, maybe you could Chuck it in the chat next stream or you could reach out to him on social media. Jake 313 also said, question. It’s looking like central digital currency will come to fruition with your best guess what do you think the fallout will be? How do you see the White movement, the pro-White movement adjusting or shifting or strategizing ultimately prevailing in the face of a total control system.”

 

Digital central bank currency I don’t think is as much of an imminent threat as a lot of people are saying. I have read about this to a certain extent and it seems to be getting brought in not for like conventional use, like the money that we use personally, but to manage transactions like between banks and foreign states. And so that largely won’t change very much in everyone’s everyday individual experience.

 

And a lot of the private banks are kind of pushing for it to be limited because private banks are afraid that if they Institute a digital currency mediated directly by the central bank writ large, that it will basically make private commercial banks superfluous because everyone can just get an account with the central bank essentially, and it’s all just numbers managed by a central bank. So what’s the point of having a NAB bank account, or a Commonwealth bank bank account or whatever at that point? And so their whole business model would collapse.

 

So, yeah, that’s because the amount of savings that people save, you know, offsets certain cash reserves they need to have and makes it easier for them to lend. So it would kind of fuck up their whole business model.

 

So they’re pretty powerful lobbyists. I would anticipate that they’ll probably get their way and that will kind of hold back the adoption of it writ large. Secondarily, if it was adopted, I think people get de-banked all the time. People get denied private services in the movement all the time. But I have not heard any examples of someone being denied a government service. No one’s Medicare gets cancelled, no one’s Centerlink gets cancelled or things like that, things that come directly from the state.

 

Basically, if you’re a citizen, there’s Laws that make you entitled to government services and they kind of can’t cancel you from them. If someone has any contrary examples in Australian history, bring them to me. But I’ve never heard of one.

 

[2:53:38]

 

So in a way, like, I wouldn’t be too worried about like nationalists not being able to use their digital currency or something. I don’t think they would get cancelled in such a way, but I don’t think it’s really coming anyway.

 

So I think it’s something that isn’t as big of a deal as some people make out. That’s my take. Stove one just sent a full stop. Cheers. Himmler’s glasses said:

 

“From an outsider perspective, what do you think is the biggest reason why American nationalists can’t unite. Why do so many American nationalists reject National Socialism? Hail from the Southern Saxon Active Club.”

 

That’s a complicated question. America is a very big place, first of all. And it doesn’t have the most homogenous culture because of how big it is. And the White people in America are very ethnically diverse. It’s a real kind of constellation of different Europeans. There’s a lot of different regional centres in Australia. There’s, like, two cities in Australia that have, like, almost half the total population of the country, and we have a more homogenous culture and a more ethnically homogeneous White population.

 

And so we have more consistency and contiguity, like, within the Australian people and centralisation of Australian society.

 

So it makes sense that our movement will have those characteristics. I think that’s one of the, like, that’s just like, a basic take. I think a second thing is that Americans have a different mentality to Australians when it comes to the expression of American national identity. American national identity is bound up within, like, liberal notions of freedom and rights and so on because of the way in which the American Revolution is kind of understood ideologically. And additionally, the American national identity is the most attacked, like, it’s the most destroyed. Like, the Australian national identity is more racial in what it means to people. And I think that’s partly due to the more ethnic homogeneity and the fact that we kind of stuck with the Crown.

 

And so also the fact that Australia was founded as a White nationalist nation. So in America, they teach you a kind of subversive analysis of the American Revolution about the founding fathers and how there were liberals and it was all about our freedoms. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

 

And so there’s a way in which, like, this national mythos can be, like, presented in such a way that it, like, reinforces the current ideological status quo in the United States, whereas in Australia, you can’t do that because they just don’t teach us about the founding of the country really in school. Because if they did, like, they would just have to basically explain how Australia was founded as a White nationalist state for White nationalist reasons. And all the founding fathers of this country were basically just concerned about securing Australia for the White race. And they’re afraid to do that.

 

They do kind of talk about how racist they were and the horrible things they did to the Aboriginals, but they’ve refrained from teaching it in too much detail, I think, because they are concerned, rightly, that if they did teach that to the Australian people, a whole bunch of people like:

 

“Hey, wait a second. That’s what our founding fathers? That’s what Australia was all about?”

 

And they would then become positively predisposed to White nationalism. So our national mythos can’t really be, like, warped and directed in such a in such a way as the American one can.

 

And so that creates a certain kind of political difficulty for the American Right, because the American Right, one side wants to kind of recapture that American national mythos and, like re racialise it. Obviously, the American founding fathers were White nationalists and they were racialists, and America was founded for the Whiteman. That’s just a fact. And America was a White supremacist state until the 1960s. In a formal sense. You know, that’s like almost, 200 years of its history. That’s just a reality. And it came into existence on the back of, initially, a race war against the Native Americans. The colonies had to fight a race war against the Native Americans. And then America then went and fought race war against the Mexicans and cleared them out of territory which they conquered and then populated with White settlers. They had, obviously, black slaves, which they then segregated once they were freed and had a kind of Whites only immigration policy.

 

So, yeah, like, America was a White supremacist state. That’s just a fact. But so there’s like, a certain School of trying to recapture that and have a based Americana school.

 

And then there’s another school that says the whole, like, American ideological identity is itself the problem. It’s leads into this liberal mythos, which is part of our deracination. And the conservatives adopted, and everything is about guns and free speech. And doesn’t matter what race you are, we all have the same freedoms as Americans. The American dream. We’re all immigrants who came here in search of freedom and prosperity. And that’s what America’s about.

 

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And so that creates a tension in the scene that is a very strong tension, and I think divides the movement. So that very much complexifies things. Also america is such a powerful country and such a thing unto itself. Americans are more politically self referential, where Australia, being that we were kind of part of an empire, like the British Empire, and Australia was politically the same thing until the end of the Second World War. And then basically, we kind of teamed up with the American empire after the British Empire collapsed. And Australia is kind of always seen as a smaller country in terms of population. We’ve always seen, and we’re like White guys on the other side of the world, separated from the rest of the Western world. We’ve kind of looked to the rest of the Western world to understand ourselves, our identity, because we’re like an outpost of Western civilisation, an outpost of British civilisation or Anglo civilisation.

 

So we’re more receptive therefore to general ideas that are from the Western world in general. Like, we’re more receptive to taking from what the Americans are doing, what the British are doing, what the Germans have done, and so on, and taking those ideas on.

 

Whereas in America, there’s this kind of sense of:

 

“We’re the biggest, most powerful country in the world. We’re the main character of planet Earth. And so, like, why are we talking about German shit? You know, we’re America! We want to have, like, this American!”

 

So that I think that creates more hostility towards National Socialism.

 

And also America was more active in their war against the National Socialists. Like, for Australia, like, yeah, we fought the Nazis in World War Two. We fought the Nazis kind of on behalf of the British Empire.

 

But the main story of World War Two for us was fighting the Japanese. And I know that was a major aspect of the story for the Americans, but a very large part of America’s, like, kind of sense of itself is:

 

“We beat the Nazis! We defeated the Germans!”

 

And so on. That’s like a big deal to in America. And we were just kind of going along with that. So that isn’t as bound up like defeating the Nazis isn’t as bound up into our identity.

 

So I think that makes us more receptive, I think, to National Socialist, all these things mixed together, and also is part of the reason why America’s movement is so fractured.

 

Also, the American conservative movement of, is kind of more dynamic. It’s more interesting because of the primary system, entryism is more attractive to nationalists to get involved with the American conservative. Where in Australia, like, our conservative movement, it’s like there’s larger barriers to entry. It’s less interesting, it’s less dynamic. There isn’t as much of a way for nationalists to feel that they can really do much with Australia’s conservative movement. So a large portion of the American scene is very focused upon conventional electoral politics and the whole Trump thing and so on. In Australia, there isn’t an equivalent to that. So anyway, I think that would probably answer your question.

 

Based Henry George said:

 

“On the search for inspiring leaders and impressed on that front by what the work of you boys from Australia. Just wanted to support the show. Cheers from America.”

 

Thanks man. I appreciate that.

 

And I think we have, White Zealot said:

 

“To ensure financial transparency, you should create a DAO on the Ethereum blockchain. And the leaders would propose and vote on expenditure proposals on the DAO, which is public. The proposal passes, the funds are transferred to the design executor.”

 

Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t think we would probably use that. We might do a more kind of like conventional old school way that would still have transparency internally, but a more conventional kind of paperwork old school way.

 

Bethtion 1 one said:

 

“Cash is king.”

 

I think that must have been in response to what I was saying about how jews put money in as a collective and so we don’t have organisations that can compete with the organisations that defend jewish interest as a collective, as a White collective. 65 Stoney said:

 

“Over five thousand live viewers. Great show!”

 

And they threw like a little Roman. Cozytion Clips said:

 

“Everyone starts off as a larper until one day you’re not. Onward to victory!”

 

That’s true. Everything starts as larp and you larp your way into a position where it’s no longer a larp.

 

But yeah, I think that’s all the Superchats. Thanks for all the Superchats tonight. Thanks for watching the show. And yeah, it’s great that we got Twitter now as another option to broadcast the show.

 

As I said at the beginning, it makes me feel great that about a year ago I get banned from YouTube and now the show is getting way more views than it ever did on YouTube, on Rumble and Twitter. So that’s fucking awesome! It’s great that the online environment has changed and you don’t have to be on YouTube anymore to do a show like this and get a decent viewership.

 

So anyway, we’re going to end the stream there. Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the show this week.

 

As I said:

 

“I’ll probably do a stream this weekend, maybe Saturday night US time, Sunday morning Australia time. I will confirm the exact time it’ll be with, as I said, Mike Enoch, aka, Mike Penovich. We’ll mostly be talking about the Israel question because I think, as I said, it’s getting very interesting. There’s a lot to analyze there.

 

So I think it’ll be important to put out some content on that. So tune in then if you’re interested in that subject. It’ll be on Rumble, Odysee, and X, as usual. And yeah, see you all next time.

 

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BradC1988
1 day ago
Australia for the White Man! o/
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Rockwell1488Pierce
1 day ago
Follow Joel and Blair on twitter, Tom on (telegram)! https://x.com/joeldavisx https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell https://x.com/b_cottrell89
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vigilantejustice23
1 day ago
You can’t label working-class women as dysgenically-tied to a cycle of poverty without saying the same about working class men. This is one example as to you may be coming across as anti-white woman to others. Working class white women are just as white as working class white men. I am not a member of the working class, but when you say things that make it seem like you want to disown your own kin, it compromises our very important sense of racial solidarity. I see you guys as my brothers. We share the same Kelto-Nordic blood. But the question is: do you in turn see me as your sister? I am not trying to nitpick as you guys have done so much amazing work, and I’ll be grateful whether or not you consider my feedback. I will continue to support you guys because you’re my brothers. You’re right that we need to weed out the weakest links within our race. But if there’s anything you guys have taught me, it’s that white solidarity is more important now than ever. We don’t need some kind of gender divide compromising our solidarity and sense of kinship. Many white women are looking for a “home” where they feel like they’re part of the in-group. We are essential to the survival of our race, just as you are. I think we could make huge strides if it’s clearly communicated to white women that you guys are on our side and are fighting for our interests.
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Carnierge
Supporter
1 day ago
What women believe doesn’t matter, nor should it. As a movement, trying to pander to women in a way that curtails the message to make it more palatable to women and their sensibilities is futile and naive. Especially considering women have had decades of programming by feminism and other andjacent ideologies, they are essentially self emulating on the pyre of modernity in defiance to their own self ruin. In the pursuit of appeasing them you temper your own stances from being as strong as they need to be, and you fail to capture the ire of women anyway. Men need to be men and that means making women unhappy — an inevitable, unavoidable reality, and in fact necessary. Women who are amongst the underclass and destroyed working classes are impossible to help see reason, but the men are capable to a degree. That is the difference, and a very real difference we must not ignore. How are you going to make a chain smoking single mother of 4 to 3 different fathers see the error in her ways. You won’t. The state supports her decisions and society reinforces her worldview. These women can bring through generations of imbeciles through their mate selection and rearing methods. Men do not possess that kind of societal weapon of mass destruction. “I think we could make huge strides if it’s clearly communicated to white women that you guys are on our side and are fighting for our interests.” How? By saying abortion is wrong, something that would cause mass outrage as the overwhelming majority of women on both sides of the political spectrum support it? By saying women are incapable of leading on account of their inherent nature and these duties should be left to men. By saying women’s purpose is motherhood and should be done as young as possible so as to maximise their window of fertility? All of these things are absolutely necessary to be said, none of them would go down well with modern women. This is why, respectfully, we need to not give a fuck what women think.
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Carnierge
Supporter
1 day ago
The fact that you would question them fighting for your interests enough, that they should strive to prove themselves more to women than they do, based on the fact that you don’t feel they speak in the right tone or go to the right extent in their messaging to be adequately women friendly or female oriented just proves my point in the matter.
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katana17
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Last week’s show’s transcript: [Joel Davis – The Purpose of Street Activism, the Principle of Race and the Politics of Will – Sep 19, 2024 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2024/09/20/joel-davis-the-purpose-of-street-activism-the-principle-of-race-and-the-politics-of-will-sep-19-2024-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell discuss the following: • Now hosting a live stream on Twitter/X for the first time. • Recent activism and interviews, including one with a young Australian influencer/YouTuber, Max Caruso. • They criticize Nick Fuentes’ views
on their street activism tactics. • Argue for the importance of militant street activism to recruit and inspire supporters. • The need for white nationalism and racial loyalty: “We are one racial family with one shared destiny and the survival of our race.” • Criticize attempts at political alliances with non-white groups. • Discuss recent Australian political events, including a politician’s comments on Abo “Welcome” ceremonies. • Argue that White people need to “stop White flighting and start fighting back” against immigration. • Criticize conservative politics and argue for more radical action. • The differences between American and Australian politics and nationalism, “White nationalism was the product of struggle in Australia.” • Criticize Muslim immigration and Islamic views. • Importance of aesthetics and looking “cool” in political activism. “Looking cool is actually really more important than almost anything else that you do in politics.” • The need to appeal to women supporters. • Discuss historical figures like Hitler and philosophical concepts related to their ideology. • Criticize “multiracial alliance retards” and argue for racial separatism. • Discuss the concept of freedom and its relation to racial identity. “Freedom wasn’t this abstract concept, therefore, of you’re free because people leave you alone. … more
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whitehonkymonkey
1 day ago
5ill the whiteman . ramp up the message,we might get the reaction we need.
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MelancholyMonkey
1 day ago
You guys are three of this Yank’s very favorite honkies. (Honky is American slang for Whites, and was coined by blacks in the mid-20th Century.)
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FLmetalhead
1 day ago
I’d gladly donate if you set that up
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BradC1988
1 day ago
You guys giving shit to the fat cunt paedo who’s a lego enthusiast was pretty funny. The fattie also needs prison time.
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kirodarkpaw
13 hours ago
I think that the ONLY reason more people are not supporting white nationalists with monthly subscriptions is simply because it’s too dangerous for them to do so. Enter a credit card and they out themselves, go on a government list, and then get their bank cancelled. I know that you guys have done WAY more than that, but most people find that terrifying. I think there is a lot of money and support that WANTS to come your way, they just aren’t sure how to securely do so.
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JoeyBato3
1 day ago
Jew tube
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KingChun
1 day ago
“But the Jews are without any doubt the strongest, most tenacious, and purest race now living in Europe.” “And for this, it might perhaps be useful and reasonable to expel the anti-Semitic ranters out of the country.”- Nietzsche Beyond Good and Evil pg 251. Has anyone else woken up from the Judeo-Nietzsche psyop?
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lapalmax73
1 day ago
The more people know you guys the more people know you guys! I am getting on age wise how can an old bastard like me assist!
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Kroninn
SubSupporter
21 hours ago
that’s a great idea, about the “Doner Class”. I think that’s essential to build a resilient foundation to opporate from.
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Nationlessnationalist
1 day ago
hail from the heart of the GAE. thanks for what you guys do.
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WhitesArePigskin
1 day ago
Australia belong to Indians. and remember Whites are Pigskin and they smell very bad like a died stinky pig
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WhiteBloke
22 hours ago
Lol the only place for you subhuman pajeets is in India. You stinky cunts drink cows piss and eat their shit while we have them butchered and eat their delicious steaks. Don’t you have some uberjeets orders to deliver on your scooter anyway?!
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WhitesArePigskin
19 hours ago
Keep crying piggyskinboi we will replace u even in europe. ur time is over. ur jewish masters don’t want u anymore haha.
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White88White
19 hours ago
Great show.
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WillyPete9
18 hours ago
I wouldnt rule out the possibility of a war kicking off and suspending the US election. Harris becomes de facto President & Zog gets what he wants.
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BeamRider101
17 hours ago
Since when has there been a “speaker’s corner” in Sydney and I’ve lived there all my life, so it’s setup to be an easy to target location. That’s the first time I’ve heard of a speakers corner.
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Nationlessnationalist
13 hours ago
great show
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DontDrinkZeeKoolAid
8 hours ago
We need that stream with Mike Enoch soon, Joel!
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augustonvenus
6 hours ago
1:37:40 what a non sequitur, blair is a crack up
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vigilantejustice23
1 day ago
Also, if race-mixing women are dysgenic and the trash is taking itself out, how about race-mixing men? White men race-mix more often than white women do. By this logic, more white men need to be taken out than white women….
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hadefo
1 day ago
check wonder.cdc.gov/natality-expanded-current.html “children born to white parents 2016-2019” racemix for women is 12.7 racemix for men is 11.8 so it’s false men racemix more, but slightly less
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StreamAddict
1 day ago
“White men race-mix more often than white women do.” Nope. Except for some yellow fever among the men, the mixing with backs is nearly 100 percent women cuz men find black women completely disgusting, its basically beastiality. Not sure of the exact figures but I’ll bet $6,000,000 most of the race mixing is women, at least with the blacks anyway, which is arguably the worst form of it. There just needs to be laws with harsh punishments put in place, it shouldnt be left up to the individual to decide to create mongrel enemies for us all to have to deal with later, whether women or men, but at that point we’d already have enough power that there wouldnt be any non whites left in the country to race mix with anyway lol.
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Carnierge
Supporter
1 day ago
The white men who mix with Asian women are typically high IQ types, and increasingly higher status. Granted many of these types are soy nerds, but they are apart of the capable and productive classes. The white women who bring through a generation of disenfranchised mulattoes are largely dysgenic in the first place. If white men were just as willing to race mix as white women, there wouldn’t be such a thing as incels.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: It is another episode of the show. It is the 13 September 2024, and there’s a lot to get into tonight. Obviously, the Australian government this week has been making a lot of moves on the censorship front. They finally put the Bill before Parliament to censor the Internet, basically against so-called “misinformation and disinformation”. They’ve also announced plans to bring in an age limit for social media. And it effectively bans people under a certain age, which they didn’t actually specify, presumably 16 or 15 or somewhere in that vein, from using social media, which a lot of people, I think correctly think is a pretext to bring in digital ID requirements, to use social media, to kind of tie everyone to their identification for what they post online.

 

And in addition to that, also, there’s been some other things on that front. So we’ll discuss all of that, as well as this crazy story out of America. Haitians eating cats, but not, are they just eating cats like the kind of the US government and certain, let’s be real, Catholic charities and other so-called refugee charities, so to speak, have conspired to dump 20,000 Haitians in this town called Springfield in Ohio, in America, which is a town that I think only had a population of like 60,000 people to begin with. It’s not a big town.

 

And so now they’ve just been inundated with Haitians and the whole town is gone to shit, basically. And that’s been a very big story over the past week.

 

So that’s a very interesting story, I think.

 

So those are probably the big stories from this week. I would say. There’s been some other things as well, but there’s a lot to chew on just there. So we’ll probably cover that and maybe some other things.

 

But, you know, as the title of the show says, usually you tune in not really for a coverage of the news, but for the tangents that we inevitably go on. And that’s probably what makes the show so good to listen to.

 

So let’s begin with a bit of a tangent. How are you guys doing?

 

Blair Cottrell: How you doing, Tom? How you feeling?

 

Joel Davis: Tom? You like muted dude!

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, sorry. I was just replying to someone in the chat. They asked us to spurg out about the “Holocaust”. And I said:

 

“Maybe at the end we’ll do it.”

 

Yeah, I mean, he was saying something like:

 

“Can you once and for all put it to bed?”

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s too early.

 

Joel Davis: Once we put it to bed, then it’s finally done. Then the jewish, …

 

Thomas Sewell: And it’ll be finally done.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s too early in the evening, actually.

 

Thomas Sewell: Didn’t we, in the, …

 

Joel Davis: We didn’t really talk about the holocaust too much. We talked more about WWII. We didn’t specifically talk about the Holocaust.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, that’s true. We didn’t specifically talk about the Holocaust. Maybe we forget that a lot of our audience, they’re not in real life NatSoc circles, so they’ve never actually experienced the kind of real life Holocaust Holabonga debunking. Like, we’ve all experienced it like 500 times. So we’re over it! Like, every time we’re at a party, someone brings it up and then hear it all again and everyone chimes in.

 

And it’s like if you’re around Nazis in real life, you just, you hear it like probably once a week, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You become desensitisfied.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, you do. You’re kind of just over it. You’re like, it’s just a bygone thing. It’s like it’s obvious that it didn’t happen. And we could go into detail. We could do like top three favourite parts of the Holabonga.

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on. I thought we were going to do this later. Are we doing it now or not? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: No, later. Later! We’ll do it later!

 

Joel Davis: I would rather talk about why the Holocaust is a lot of BS than the Misinformation Bill:

 

“Oh, wow! We’re talking about this on the show like a year ago. Let’s just, let’s cover this again!”

 

One thing I will say about the Misinformation Bill, actually, let’s just maybe cover some news.

 

A lot of people have been reporting it, like, as if it’s a “hate speech Bill”. It is not a hate speech bill. The Bill does not authorize the government to go after private individuals for what they post online. It authorizes a regulatory body called the ACMA [Australian Communications and Media Authority], I believe, to basically go after the social media companies and impose government standards on their regulatory practices to try and basically force sites like Twitter and maybe even Rumble to take down certain kinds of content and change their moderation policies to become more strict and in line with the kind of policies that you see on Facebook or Instagram or YouTube, which are more in line with what the government wants.

 

[* The Australian Communications and Media Authority is an Australian government statutory authority within the Communications portfolio. ACMA was formed on 1 July 2005 with the merger of the Australian Broadcasting Authority and the Australian Communications Authority. ACMA is responsible for collecting broadcasting, radiocommunication and telecommunication taxes, and regulating Australian media.]

 

So that’s actually what the Bill is about. Obviously, that’s a bad thing, but it’s not the same thing as the government’s going to come knock on your door because you made a misinformation Twitter post. Not yet, anyway. That’s not what the Bill says.

 

Blair Cottrell: So why aren’t they doing that already? Well, with racist posts, anyway. Looking here online, …

 

Joel Davis: No, I can’t think of one person in Australia that has been door knocked over a racist Twitter post. Has that ever happened that you guys know?

 

Blair Cottrell: I mean, throughout the West, like Western civilisation, I’ve heard of it happening.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it happens in Britain, but it doesn’t happen in Australia.

 

So I don’t think we should be fear mongering about that being that can happen, because then people will be afraid to say things on the Internet. We don’t want them to be afraid to say things. It’s not illegal. You’re not going to get door knocked over something you send. Unless you’re, like, full on FED posting and advocating for killing people or something like crazy like that, you’re not going to get door knocked.

 

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Thomas Sewell: I think people should be very careful, even in Australia, especially if they own legally owned firearms, they should be very careful what they put on Facebook, because there has been people that have been door knocked for things that I wouldn’t say were explicit calls to violence. They were more just like airing frustrations, like natural airing of frustrations on social media posts. There has been some people that have been door knocked and have lost their., … And they haven’t been involved with organisations. They’re just individuals on the Internet. They’ve got legal firearms and the government has used their Facebook posts, specifically Facebook. I don’t know of any other social media, but I know specifically Facebook posts to then say that they’re no longer fit and proper, so they can no longer hold the firearms, legal firearms.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. You’re not allowed to have emotions or opinions if you own guns legally.

 

Thomas Sewell: So you have to be very careful, yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: So when you said ACMA, I thought, where have I heard that before?

 

So I looked it up and I saw, it’s the Australian Communications and Media Authority. And then I remembered the ACMA was consulted by Sky News after my appearance on Sky News, namely Adam Giles show. When was that, Tom? That was about four or four years ago now, maybe five years ago?

 

Thomas Sewell: 2018

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. And they ended up ruling that there was nothing wrong with my appearance on Adam Giles show. And there was no actual reason to ban me or to take any action. But their ruling took, like, six to eight months to come through, so by that time, everyone had moved on, so it didn’t really matter.

 

But interesting that that’s going to be the agency that’s going to be trusted to hold platform providers to account for what they’re allowing to be posted on those platforms. Obviously, the ACMA has maybe in recent years, been kind of populated, you might say, by the right kind of (((people))) that the government needs it to have.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. It’s under their control too. So they could, if they’re not happy with the AMCA not sufficiently regulating so-called “disinformation”, which actually is a total misnomer because what the Bill outlines is that basically:

 

“Causing offence to any protected group is a form of disinformation.”

 

Thomas Sewell: Joel as just disconnected. He’s reconnected. Joel is back.

 

Joel Davis: Did I disconnect?

 

Blair Cottrell: Not on my end you didn’t. Yeah, you were fine on my end for some reason.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, maybe I disconnected.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, maybe you did.

 

Anyway, my, what I was saying was that you, disinformation and misinformation is something that is interpreted as literally anything that offends any kind of minority or protected group or people of a particular, even people of a particular political status, I think it said in the legislation. So you could construe almost anything as “causing harm” is actually the term that it uses. Causing harm to any of these groups. There’s a way that you can rationalise taking almost any content down on those pretexts. At least someone is going to “feel harmed” by almost any, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Joel, Joel, what about the harm that can potentially be caused, according to the contents of the bill, to bankers and, what do they call it? The economic market?

 

So you’re not allowed to undermine public confidence in banks or Australia’s economic markets! What does that mean? [chuckling] You’re not allowed to forecast a recession?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! The Bill would basically make it possible for them to take down any kind of criticism of government health mandates, climate change, … So if you criticise vaccines or climate change or any of these things, if you go against the mainstream consensus on any of these issues, they could classify all of these things as “misinformation” or “disinformation” or whatever. The legislation is so broad, they can’t take anything down off the Internet that they want to.

 

But the thing is they can’t directly take it down. The legislation doesn’t basically give the AMCA the right to specifically say:

 

“I want this taken down. This post, this post, this post!”

 

What the legislation authorizes them to do is to basically provide guidelines to the social media companies on what they should be taking down.

 

So it’s kind of a little bit convoluted.

 

Blair Cottrell: Didn’t it say 5% of the revenue from the platform provider in question can be taken as a fine by the media association or the ACMA? Is that what the legislation said?

 

[10:07]

 

Joel Davis: So that’s basically what they’re going to do. And I would anticipate that. Elon Musk has already criticised the legislation multiple times. Unfortunately, he decided to say “fascism” as his form of criticism of this bill. I mean, how that’s “fascism”, I don’t really understand. Like the Internet, when fascist regimes existed, I don’t understand, …

 

But anyway, it’s a bommerism. But the point is that what this is actually is kind of liberalism, it’s socialism.

 

But anyway, the point is that the bill. Yeah. It ultimately is only as powerful as what the Australian government’s power is, which over a company that’s based in a foreign country, is quite limited.

 

So at the end of the day, all the servers for all these social media companies are hosted in foreign countries, and they can’t pull Elon Musk before a court and tell him what to do on his American website.

 

So all they can do is maybe mess with Australian based revenue streams into X which probably aren’t that substantial. I would imagine only a very small portion of how much revenue they raise comes from Australia. So they’re only going to take like, 5%. I could very much envisage Elon Musk basically just wearing it and telling them to get fucked, because it really would be such a minute amount of Twitter’s overall revenue.

 

So I don’t know if it’s actually that big of a deal. It could be a whole big song and dance of almost nothing, to be honest. We’ll see how it plays out.

 

Blair Cottrell: Who was that woman reading out the Bill in Parliament? What, they don’t read out the whole bill, but the preface for the bill. The preface for the bill. Who was that woman? Do we know anything about her? She had one of those toxic haircuts. Looked like the kind of woman.

 

Joel Davis: The kind of woman that would be in the government?

 

Blair Cottrell: In the government, in a high school. Yeah. Why do all women look like that? Why do all women, like government women, look like that? They all look like clones of each other, don’t they?

 

Joel Davis: Hot chicks, don’t want to go and become part of the government!

 

Blair Cottrell: No, it’s not. It’s more than that, it’s more than just not being attractive. It’s like they’re a whole different race. It’s like they’ve taken their the idea that they’re a member of this elitist superclass to the next level. And they’ve actually tried to create a physical, observable identity out of that liberal superclass. It’s like they’re a whole different race! The way they think, the way they look, the way they behave, it’s totally alien. It’s really weird!

 

Joel Davis: There’s a certain kind of allure that for a certain personality type, having an official title where you wear a pantsuit and you get to be an official title:

 

“Oh, look how successful I am! Look how prominent I am! Because I have of this position!”

 

Whether it be like a CEO of a large corporation or being in the government or being the principal of a high school or something like this. A so-called high status position within the system. Someone who’s kind of a loser that doesn’t really have any kind of normal, markable way within the culture of being kind of liked or affirmed or validated. They find a way:

 

“Well, if I just follow all these bureaucratic procedures and cross my t’s and dot my I’s, then I can get this piece of status, and then I can become important. And then all these people have to pretend. Have to kiss my arse and pretend that I matter, and I can be, oh, I’m such an inspiration for women everywhere because look at me! I’ve become the Member of Parliament, and now I’m the Minister for Education!”

 

Or some bullshit title or whatever that they get given.

 

And so it gives them this inflated sense of ego. Which indicates that something is quite wrong with them, that they can’t find meaning or validation in their life in any kind of normal, healthy channel. I think that really explains, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe it’s the default reaction to not attracting a partner or not being able to attract a partner or not presenting yourself as useful to. I don’t know, but, like, I couldn’t imagine anything worse. What you said there, where you said they’re aiming for a title or position where from they can force other people to be nice to them and everyone has to pretend to like them. I would hate that! I would hate that! I want to hear what people really think. I don’t want people pretending to like me.

 

Like, I don’t know where you guys stand on that. I think you would agree that there could be nothing worse than having sycophants just blowing smoke up your ass, just talking shit! Like, you want to hear what people really think, right? You want people to be honest. But, well, that’s just me.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. You see these women everywhere. They’re the stereotypical corporate, HR, or corporate governance lady. They’re in actual government. They’re in school, education, governance.

 

So I’ll give you an example recently, and I’ve seen the photo of this lady, and she looked exactly as Beck [Tom’s wife] described her. Beck obviously works part time consulting within the education system. And I’m sure the Lefties will try and dox that and stop that. I don’t give a fuck! [chuckling] Like, awesome! I hope she loses her job.

 

No, seriously. But no, she just does it not just out of the goodness of her heart. It is important to her to just stay within the industry and just keep tabs on it to see how fucking far it’s falling.

 

But she is working at a school at the moment. The principal’s a man and he’s currently, … I don’t know how much I can say legally, I guess I’m not naming names, so I can say whatever I want. But he’s currently under investigation for paedophilia. The principal.

 

And so the vice principal’s had to step up and is taking over the school. And all the staff hate the vice principal. It’s a woman. She doesn’t have children. She’s in her forties. And she has that haircut that you described, and she has that attitude that we all understand.

 

And all of her staff, mostly female. Most of the staff are female at the school. They are getting physically assaulted by students. And we’re talking, I’m pretty sure it’s a primary school. So they’re getting physically assaulted by grade twos, grade threes, grade fours, like, incessantly. And they are being told, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What do you mean? The kids are beating up the teachers?

 

[16:34]

 

Thomas Sewell: The kids are physically attacking the teachers. They’re kicking and punching the teachers. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: [chuckling] Okay! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: And so the school is in such a crisis that they’ve called for an independent consultant to come in and see what’s going on:

 

“Why are the children doing this? Clearly the gentle parenting and gentle schooling approach isn’t working. How do we rework it to make it work? How do we try and reinvent a wheel that’s broken?”

 

And it’s quite interesting because all the teachers are saying that every time they try to implement any sort of consequence, because they’re not allowed to say “disciplinary action” anymore, they now say “consequence”. They’re not allowed to implement any “consequence” for any negative behaviour, any “bad behaviour”. Bad behaviour basically doesn’t exist anymore in the primary school.

 

And this is a normal state school. This is a normal state school in Victoria. There’s no discipline. There’s not allowed to be any discipline. There’s no consequence. There’s not allowed to be any consequence.

 

And when the teachers report the violence that they’re receiving from the children to the acting principal, the acting principal basically tells them:

 

“Look, this conversation is too much for me. I’m getting anxious from this conversation. I’m going to have to leave this conversation.”

 

And then the principal then [chuckling] walks off and it’s fucking hilarious! But that’s what’s going on.

 

Blair Cottrell: What you’re saying is this school, this school was more functional under the leadership of an actual possible paedophile than it is from one of these corporate women! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So the old principal, it’s kind of fucked up, but I’ll sidetrack that statement. But yes, but the other interesting factor with this principal is, or vice principal, acting principal is she is trying to get the principal’s job. So what she’s doing is she’s fudging the statistics. She’s pretending that there’s no incidences. She’s walking off on these conversations so that she doesn’t have to do her job, she doesn’t have to report the violence, she doesn’t have to report that the school is in chaos. The only team that’s been reported is this third party team. So obviously it’s all resting on her to write an honest report to the government to say:

 

“Hey, this is actually what’s going on at the school.”

 

So it’s interesting. [chuckling] It’s very interesting. [chuckling]

 

Also, Josh Roose*, who’s an anti-fascist researcher in the universities that regularly writes about how we’re all psychopaths and how we’re evil and the government should put us in jail. His wife is actually a principal at a school as well.

 

So that’s another interesting thing. [chuckling] It’s a small world! It’s a really small world!

 

[* Dr Josh Roose is a political sociologist and Associate Professor of Politics at the Alfred Deakin Institute for Citizenship and Globalisation at Deakin University, Melbourne. His research focuses on the intersection of politics, law, sociology, and religion with an emphasis on political and religious violent extremism and terrorism. He has also contributed expertise through interviews and background research for the full range of Australian television, print and radio outlets including ABC news programs including the 7.30 Program, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, 60 Minutes, The Guardian,  SBS, The Australian, and Sky News.]

 

Joel Davis: He wrote a whole article about how about me recently in the Australian. That was quite funny, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, Mr Roose.

 

Joel Davis: Because I ratioed him on Twitter. I said:

 

“Listen you should be thanking me that I’m giving you something to write about, otherwise you would be irrelevant. It wasn’t for people like us the Australian wouldn’t really be commissioning you to write any articles.”

 

And then he blocked me. So yes, he doesn’t have much of a sense of humour.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he’s a pussy!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. It’s a picture of us cutting a Hitler cake in the like a swastika cake on Hitler’s birthday in the news.

 

So I thought that that that was pretty cool!

 

And what I didn’t like about the article, though, was he was making out like as if I’ve sprung to prominence after October 7. And my criticism of Israel, which didn’t really make any sense. Like, I barely talked about the Israel-Palestine conflict that much at all! Did a bit when it first kind of broke out. It was interesting to analyze, but it’s not really like my thing. So it was kind of bizarre! And he was trying to construe that somehow off the back of the anti-Israel movement we’re promoting neo-Nazism or something like that. If anything, it’s the other way around. We’re like:

 

“Oh, I guess we kind of hate Israel because it’s run by jews.”

 

But, you know, our focus isn’t really there. So he probably doesn’t actually watch the show as write an article that was that trash. These people get paid thousands of dollars to research us and they don’t even watch the show!

 

Meanwhile, poor old Miss Kaz Ross. She watches every single show religiously. Yeah, she’s watching right now! The media never ask her to write an article. [chuckling] She just gets upset how bad their articles are and how bad all these official researchers are.

 

[20:57]

 

Blair Cottrell: Who is Kaz Ross? Who’s that?

 

 

 

Joel Davis: She’s like the fat communist who, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, researcher.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, she’s obsessed with us. And she’s always posting on Twitter about us.

 

Thomas Sewell: She has a tenure at the University of Tasmania, I’m pretty sure.

 

Joel Davis: She knows us quite well. Like, her posts are actually kind of interesting. I mean, she has me blocked on Twitter. But occasionally Swindon will post a screenshot because he likes antagonizing her on the timeline in the group chat.

 

And so I’ll see some of what she has to say. And recently she did acknowledge that I’m an intelligent young gentleman. Apparently I’m an evil paedophile as well. But I’m an intelligent young gentleman.

 

So thanks for the compliment, Kaz. It’s nice. You obviously watch the show.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe Kaz is gradually, very gradually starting to turn? How long can you actually work on people like us before we start making a bit more sense than you expected?

 

Joel Davis: Maybe if she lost like 50 kilos, she’d come around?

 

Thomas Sewell: Our worldview would make sense if she lost 50 kilos. Because her main motivation is that she has a lack of self esteem because she’s a fat bitch! So she thinks she’s not allowed in the ethno-state. And so that’s why she wants to destroy the ethno-state. And this is just basic psychology 101. If you think you can’t go to the ethno-state, then you want to destroy the ethno-state.

 

And so that’s spiritual. That’s a spiritual construct.

 

So all these Antifa, all these communists, their fundamental motivation is they have low self esteem. They’re biological traitors. And they’re just like, well, misery loves company:

 

“If I can’t have it, no one can!”

 

You know:

 

“Why do these people got, ..!”

 

Like, it’s envy. It’s very strange. It’s hard to understand if you’ve got an attitude of:

 

“Okay, if I’m inferior, I should get good. If I’m not good at life, I should get better at life!”

 

But they don’t come at it from that angle. They just want to destroy the rich, eat the rich. They don’t even hate the jews because the jews are this, like, financial parasite that’s actually destroying society. They just hate the jews because the jews are better than them, or the jews are in positions of dominance or authority. They don’t hate the jews!

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what we get accused of too. Like, we get accused of that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, people mistake our motivations for being, like, anarchistic or communistic, but they’re not. Our motivations are we want a healthy society with a master morality. And a master morality doesn’t imply that we need to have slaves.

 

And I think that when a communist understands that, then they have a chance to sort of, maybe not empathize. That’s probably not the right word, but if they were accidently, … Not that we’re going to recruit many communists in the 21st century, obviously, Joel covered that last stream where the data shows that it’s a very different type of communist to 100 years ago.

 

But if there was some that got lost down the path, when they understand that our worldview isn’t about enslaving nons, it’s about just separating from and getting good, you know, it’ll make a bit more sense. Like, the fash doesn’t seem that bad anymore. Because that’s what they’re concerned about. They’ve got misdirected empathy.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Your modern communists, they’re less motivated by class war or even ideology than they are spurred on by dysgenics. It’s dysgenics which is at the heart of modern communism. It’s not even ideology. And in regards to the being fat, losing 50 kilos. You don’t lose 50 kilos, then adopt the National Socialist worldview. You start adopting the National Socialist worldview, then you lose the 50 kilos! That’s the process, in my opinion.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes!

 

Joel Davis: It’s a little bit of a chicken and an egg problem, though, because that being a fat piece of shit makes it so difficult for you to accept a worldview, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You have to hate yourself first, you need to hate that version of yourself first. You hate that! You keep looking at yourself in the mirror, and you say to yourself:

 

“Wow, I’m a piece of shit! I hate the way I look! I need to do something about this!”

 

And you say that every day until you start actually doing something to change it. You need to hate and reject the existing person you are, and the ideas that have led you to become that person, and completely, you know, re-imagine yourself. Right. That’s what I think for some of these.

 

[25:14]

 

Joel Davis: I mean, that’s good advice.

 

But actually what happens is that if you’re a fat piece of shit, nine times out of 10, is that you’d rather just cope about the fact that you’re a fat piece of shit by believing in a worldview which divorces you from nature in some way and nature’s inherent valuations. Because that’s what National Socialism is. National Socialism is an ideology that respects nature. That’s why, you know, Hitler’s view, he stated very explicitly, was that:

 

“A people that will not fight for its existence, does not deserve to live in this world.”

 

You have to earn your existence from nature through strength, through struggle. Otherwise, you can have no complaints if you’re wiped out of existence.

 

And the brutality of nature, which is a necessary brutality, because it’s a brutality that basically separates the wheat from the chaff that casts off weakness, that casts off basically erroneous directions that nature go in and refines the direction of life so that only the strong and the healthy can survive. And so nature has a way of kind of cleaning itself with its own inherent brutality and purifying itself with its own inherent brutality. And I learnt to kind of love and respect that aspect of nature. And to conform oneself to it by becoming strong and by becoming healthy and becoming worthy of existence, of continued existence.

 

That worldview is very difficult to embrace if you feel weak, if you feel disgusting, if you feel unhealthy. And there’s other worldviews that can come along and say:

 

“Well, actually, that whole idea of respecting nature is actually a form of domination, is actually a form of immoral brutality. People that lack empathy, that lack concern for other human beings, that don’t understand how difficult it is to be born in a certain body and to have certain natural handicaps or whatever, but we here in team communism or team Christianity or whatever, the form of egalitarianism team that you’re adopting, we care for all people, and we see value in everyone, and we want to lift everyone up together through this kind of, Chungus universal brotherhood of man or love or whatever!”

 

But of course, ultimately, that’s a total fraud. Ultimately, that doesn’t actually exist because nature actually exists.

 

And so all that ends up happening is that you facilitating parasitism and you’re facilitating the manipulation of outsider groups who will use that morality against you. Like we’re seeing with all of these non-Whites that are taking advantage of our egalitarian moment in the Western world. They can’t believe their luck at how stupid we are that we’re just giving away! We built the greatest civilisation in world history, and we’re just giving it away to them for free, and apologizing to them while we give it to them that we’re not giving it to you know, quickly enough and rapaciously enough or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s many forces that will come at you in this world with the attractive idea that you aren’t your own responsibility and things aren’t your fault and your failures aren’t a result of your own weakness or naivety. But you’ve got to be careful that you don’t be swayed so easily by these forces. As Joel just pointed out, they come packaged in many different ways, sometimes as religions, sometimes as unions, and ideological groups. And sure, there’s collective oppression that you can challenge, but you can’t really be oppressed unless you’re weak enough to be in the first place.

 

So if you get strong enough, if you get good enough, then you’ll start doing the oppressing, and you really become immune to oppression.

 

And I think the world really is sort of “oppressed or be oppressed” in a way. You need to be in a position where you can crush any and all opponent that challenges you. Even if you don’t actually need to do it, you still have to have the capability of doing it. You have to keep yourself strong to prove your right to exist in this world.

 

And this glorification of weakness really irritates me in the West. It kills all incentive to perform when we’re rewarding and prioritizing the weakest and the sickest in our society. Where’s that going long term? The only logical conclusion is everyone’s going to try to be as weak and as sick as possible in order to be paid and rewarded for it.

 

Thomas Sewell: So I think it’s really important to know what’s going on in the schools. And I appreciated David Hiscock. He just wrote an article on that Misinformation Bill, just tying a few of these subjects together that have been floating around in the ether. But David Hiscock wrote about how the, … Sorry, not the Misinformation Bill, the banning of children from social media.

 

And I think that’s quite significant, because they’re still watching TV, they’re still getting programmed. They just don’t have the sort of Pandora’s box of the Internet.

 

And again, I’m not sure the exact age that they’re trying to legislate that children can’t use the Internet, but what they’re doing to children is ultimately what they’re trying to do to adults. And that was the point he was making in the article. And I think we discussed that on the show maybe two or three weeks ago as well.

 

This idea that Hitler talks about it, Stalin talks about it, and that’s not just because they’re both dictators by definition, but it is just commonly understood that who controls the youth, controls the future. And the way the Liberal tyranny or the anarcho-tyranny is doing it is they are making these changes. Oh, that’s right. I remember it was the show we talked about. It was when we talked about how the anti-bullying safe schools programme from six years ago has changed culture so significantly that children growing up that have had that change to the education curriculum are now adults. And now the government finally got the courage, or they finally got enough time behind them to start seriously changing how society functions in the same way that bureaucrats can just change how a high school works.

 

And a bit of a tangent, but a real world example I have of this is when I was in the army. When I got to battalion, when I marched out of training, we got pulled aside into a room by the lieutenant colonel, and he said, I think it was Forbes. And he died of cancer, conveniently. But he gave us a big speech about how:

 

“All the soldiers in the unit were cancer.”

 

That’s what he said to us. And we were, like, 18 years old. We just marched out of training. And he pulled all the new guys, because it was like about three or four Platoons* worth of new guys, new recruits, rocked up a battalion all at the same time. And he pulled us all into an auditorium and he said:

 

“All the soldiers just got back from Afghanistan. Basically, they’re cancer, they’re rotten, they’re no good. And basically I’m trying to get rid of them. And you guys are the future and you guys have been trained properly. And the army is going through some changes at the moment, and these people are trying to hold on to the old army. And what we need to do is have the new army. And you guys are the new army.”

 

[* In the Australian Army, an infantry Platoon has thirty-six soldiers organised into three eight-man sections and a twelve-man manoeuvre support section, with a lieutenant as Platoon commander and a sergeant as Platoon sergeant, accompanied by a Platoon signaller and sometimes a Platoon medic (full strength of forty men). A section comprises eight soldiers led by a corporal with a lance corporal as second in command. Each section has two fireteams (sometimes three) of four men, one led by the corporal and the other by the lance corporal. Each fireteam (also called a “brick” by Australian soldiers) has one soldier with an F89 Minimi LSW and the other three armed with F88 Steyr assault rifles. One rifle per fireteam has an attached 40 mm grenade launcher; one of the grenadiers is the lance corporal. Fireteam bravo has a HK417 7.62mm for the designated marksman role. More recently, the designated marksman of each Australian fireteam has been issued the HK417 in Afghanistan and possibly afterwards. The Platoon may also have three MAG 58 general-purpose machine guns, one M2 Browning heavy machine gun, or a Mk 19 grenade launcher at its disposal. Wikipedia]

 

And we told all the senior soldiers and they were like:

 

“Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s Forbes. He’s a piece of shit! You know, good luck with him. Basically, we’re all leaving because we don’t want this guy as our commander. We’re all discharging, we’re all getting out of the army. And yeah, we just feel sorry for you and you guys because you don’t actually know what the army is. The thing you have joined is very different to what it was five years ago. It’s drastically changed in a very short period of time.”

 

[32:58]

 

 

And the army went from this boys club where it was like party hard, work hard, serve the country, do the hard yards. And it was this macho kind of warrior cult, and it just became PC. You’re basically a security guard for the state when they decide and when they don’t decide. And we’re going to be doing lots of humanitarian work and you’re kind of a bodyguard for like the UN humanitarian aid workers. And we’re going to transition away from a lot of this combat stuff. And we were infantry soldiers.

 

And I sensed this transition actually, when I applied because of dealing with the civilian recruiting agency and the kind of questions they would ask. It made me think, like:

 

“Am I joining the army or am I joining the Peace Corps?”

 

It was very strange, the questions. I won’t go into it. But I saw that firsthand. And I saw that when you drastically change the culture of an institution, you actually have to remove basically all the non-compliant manpower from the organisation and you have to restock the organisation with the new manpower that can be loyal to the institution, because it doesn’t even know what the old institution was like because it wasn’t around. And you’ve got this fresh slate.

 

And so that’s what’s happening at a macro level and at a micro level. So at a macro level, they’re replacing us, you know, ethnically. Like, the White people are getting replaced from Australia and Britain and Canada, America, Germany, wherever. We’re getting replaced, and they’re bringing in these migrants.

 

And one of the main reasons is that the White people are just the “cancer”. This is what our bureaucrats think of us. This is what the ruling elites think of us. Because White people want things like justice and fairness and freedom and honour and respect and rights and liberties! That’s what the White people want. But the Chinese and Indian bug people they don’t know. What the fuck does fairness and righteousness and justice mean to them? This isn’t in their psyche. This isn’t in their psyche. These words are Western words. These are Western concepts. These belong to us!

 

And so to change the culture into the tyranny that they’re trying to make, they need to replace us. And they can’t replace all the Whites all at once, so they got to brainwash them in school. And so we’re seeing the anarcho-tyranny playing out where you’ve got children. They can’t be punished for basically what is proto-criminal behaviour.

 

So that’s the anarchy. But they can be punished. If you say the word “gay”, I guarantee there’s a punishment for it. I guarantee there’s consequences. If you said the word “gay” in class, you get punished! But you punch the teacher:

 

“Oh, why are you feeling this way? What’s wrong? Tell us why you’re feeling this way.”

 

Joel Davis: See if you punch the gay kids?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I have one anecdotal story. We have run a similar. We haven’t run the experiment. I’m aware of an anecdotal, …

 

Blair Cottrell: We [chuckling] have some experience in this! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Ha! [chuckling] There were some gay jews that tried to run me over the car and shit happened. But that’s a different discussion.

 

We have in the school environment, one of the younger siblings of a member was made aware. I think he’s like 13 or something. He was made aware that there was going to be a tranny at school the next year.

 

So the teachers sat all the kids down, said:

 

“When Jeffrey comes back next year, he’s actually not Jeffrey. He’s like, Janice and it’s a girl now, and you have to refer to him as a girl.”

 

And although all the boys in the class apparently just had a huddle and were like:

 

“Let’s just bully the fuck out of this faggot!”

 

And then they just went, as soon as Jeffrey came back, and he was like, all the teacher and the girls were like, trying to call him Janice and all this, and all the boys were like:

 

“Shut the fuck up, Jeffrey! You faggot!”

 

And the whole class did it, and they couldn’t expel everyone. So the kid eventually just dropped out of the school. So the Zoomers are winning. Actually, I think these are, these might be Gen Alpha. These might not even be Zoomers. I think we’re seeing, …

 

Blair Cottrell: The exact same thing happened, … When you were telling that story, the same thing happened in Port Phillip Prison when I was there. And it was a little jewish woman who was part of the prison staff, who brought into our unit a young Indian kid. I think he was about 18, 19 years old, but he was doing minimum ten year sentence because he killed his White girlfriend. I don’t know what the circumstances were. But in prison, when you kill a young girl, the other prisoners don’t really appreciate that. And it tends to be the sort of crime that if you’re convicted of it, you spend your time in the “slot”, we call it, or solitary confinement. You don’t really mix with the mainstream of the prison, for your own safety.

 

But yeah, one of the little jewish woman she was called the Youth Development Officer. Uh, she was all right to me, but she came up with this idea:

 

“We’re going to integrate this person into the mainstream unit.”

 

We had a meeting headed up by this woman who said:

 

“Look, there’s a guy coming into this unit who’s you know, he’s convicted of murder, he’s made a mistake and all that, but we’re trying to integrate him into mainstream to give him a chance.”

 

And the same thing happened, like, as soon as she left the room, we all just looked at each other, because we heard the details of what he’d done, and we’re just like:

 

“Let’s just fucking get this cunt!”

 

So [chuckling] he was only in there for an hour, but before he had to be taken out. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, Well, based!

 

Thomas Sewell: You cannot stop the Aryan spirit, and it lives in the youth, so good luck to them.

 

[38:51]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, getting suspended from school isn’t even that bad. I mean, you just get to sit at home for three days. Yeah, it’s one of the best punishments. Well, when I got suspended, my dad would, like, pack up the Xbox and take it with him to work, so I couldn’t play it. Fucking asshole!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, my dad used to hide it. But he thought I didn’t know where he hid it, but I knew. So when he wasn’t home, I’d go and get it and then put it back.

 

Joel Davis: That’s what I did first. And then he figured that out. So then he just took it to work.

 

So then I was just fucked!

 

Thomas Sewell: My dad would take the power cable and I just wouldn’t tell him that I just stole a backup one from school. It’s the same power cable. They’re universal. [chuckling] So he took the power cable to work.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. The toaster cord. Yeah, yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But I’ll talk about this story. Actually, let’s get a bit of a story going.

 

So I don’t know if you guys saw this, but it’s going around:

 

“Sweden to pay immigrants up to $34,000 US to leave. Sweden plans to boost payments up to $34,000 to immigrants who leave the nation that has been a haven for the war weary and persecuted, the Right-wing government, said on Thursday.”

 

So called “Right-wing”, I’m reading. This is from Associated Press.

 

Thomas Sewell: Can you put the article up?

 

Joel Davis: :

 

“The Scandinavian country was for decades seen as a, quote, ‘humanitarian superpower’, but over the years has struggled to integrate many of its newcomers. Immigrants who voluntarily returned to their countries of origin from 2026 would be eligible to receive up to 350,000 Swedish krona, …”

 

Which is $34,000. So what is that? Almost like 50 grand Australian?:

 

“The government, which is propped up by the anti-immigration Sweden, Democrats, told a press conference, quote, ‘We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in our migration policy’, migration minister Johann Forsal told reporters as the government presented its latest move to crack down on migration. Currently, immigrants can receive up to 10,000 krona per adult and 5,000 per child, with a cap of 40,000.”

 

So that’s a pretty massive increase.

 

Anyway. So this is making a lot of news because I think this is like the biggest payment of any European country or any Western country or I think any country in the world for people to re-migrate back to their countries of origin. And it’s obviously quite significant. There was some polling that was done that suggested that a very substantial portion of a lot of these immigrants, if they were paid enough to be able to resettle back in their homeland, would be interested in going home. So hopefully it gets rid of some of the shitskins out of Sweden.

 

But my response to this is that ultimately this isn’t the way. It’s not going to produce a very large scale of responses. Only a very small minority, I think, of these migrants will take the bait and go home. What’s stopping them coming back again later? I don’t know if there really is any mechanism to stop them coming back later, even after taking the money. Maybe their Visa gets ripped up or whatever, but they could reapply.

 

But also, moreover, it’s still playing into the idea that these immigrants are entitled to, basically the free choice of what country they want to live in and support to live a good life on the back of the Swedish taxpayer and so on. It isn’t creating disincentives or negative incentives. It isn’t saying we’re going to put a big levy or tax upon immigrants in order to basically make it difficult for them to make a substantial living in Sweden and therefore create the incentive for them to leave. It isn’t forcibly removing people.

 

And I think until you cross that boundary where you say:

 

“I’ll be willing to make the lives of immigrants substantially worse and actually ruin their choices, not expand their choices and try and give them a golden handshake, but actually make their life worse to stay.”

 

You’re not really going to get a substantial shift.

 

Additionally, that’s a lot of money. How the hell are these immigrants entitled to more from, … It’s still, I think, morally wrong almost to take even more from the Swedish people and give it to these browns.

 

But nevertheless, it probably, probably will reduce the overall numbers to a degree. So it’ll be interesting to see as an experiment how successful the programme is and keep an eye on it. It is part of like a changing attitude, I think, in European politics to the idea of the immigrants going back, which is a positive thing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Could it be a throw off just to placate the public who see what’s happening? Like:

 

“Oh, yeah, we just re-migrated a hundred people!”

 

But then another thousand came in.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course. Of course!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a step in the right direction. And I know that sounds like a really reformist take, not a revolutionary one. But it, as you said, it’s a new dynamic. It’s a new dynamic. We haven’t really had this dynamic. This hasn’t been a conversation on the table. Now that it’s a conversation on the table, it’s a clever little ploy from the conservatives. It’s like:

 

“Well see some of them went back, see, it is possible.”

 

And then you can just keep ramping it up.

 

And I shared, when the riots were happening in London, I shared an Enoch Powell interview. It’s maybe only like five or seven minutes long. And he’s with a very hostile kind of libtard journalist. And Enoch Powell is talking about these kinds of things, that there’s different measures that the British government could take to turn Britain back to being 100% White or 99.9% White.

 

And obviously he’s talking about a very small community of non-Whites. I think he’s talking about 100,000 or 200,000 that he sees need to go back.

 

Now, obviously, it’s in the millions. Potentially it’s like 10 million. But he does mention that. He says that there’s sort of this carrot and stick dynamic.

 

And then the libtard journalist says:

 

“Well, what happens if they don’t take the carrot?”

 

Basically, what happens if they don’t take these, … The journalist refers to them as “coercive measures” and defines this as coercion because you’re saying:

 

“Here, do this is the easy way because otherwise there’ll be a hard way. It’s like it’s subtly implied that you’re going to bring harm to migrants.”

 

And Powell’s playing the game. He’s not going full Hitler mode because that’s not what he was, but he’s not cucking on the question. He’s kind of trying to hold this, …

 

[45:19]

 

Joel Davis: Like, well, I mean, Hitler did play this game. Hitler did make a deal with the Zionists to relocate the jews to Palestine in exchange for, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yes, technically, yes.

 

Joel Davis: So Hitler invented re-migration in a certain way, you could say.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re saying that Adolf Hitler explored peaceful solutions to avoid war?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course!

 

Actually, at that time in the mid 1930s, because a lot of people say:

 

“Oh, Hitler actually supported zionism!”

 

And like this retarded mental gymnastics. At the time, in the mid 1930s, the International Jewish community was whipping up an intense amount of hatred against Germany at a time when Germany wasn’t as prepared for war as it was at the beginning of the Second World War. This is in the mid 1930s. Hitler only been in power for a couple of years. And the international clique of jews, particularly in New York, but everywhere, were whipping up a lot of anti-German sentiment. And the Poles were very emboldened by this to pursue a kind of aggressive posture against Germany, over the disputed territories and so on. You know, obviously, at the end of the First World War, a lot of former German territories were either handed over to Poland or the free city of Danzig was created as a kind of compromise as well.

 

But anyway, there’s a lot of details. I don’t even want to go down explicating them all. If you don’t know about this, read up on your history.

 

But the point is that Germans were in a relatively weak point at that point. Then the jews basically started fighting amongst themselves. All these different factions of people trying to get together and put sanctions on Germany and put pressure on Germany and make Germany a pariah state in the international community and so on. They kind of got consumed with the “two jews, three opinions”, internal warfare within themselves or internal arguments within themselves.

 

And the only faction within, the most unstable faction within that was the Zionists, who thought that they could exploit how anti-semitic the National Socialist regime was to get a big jewish population to go and participate in their settlement programme in Palestine, because obviously, this is before the state of Israel existed.

 

And at that time, zionism was just a dream of a certain subset of the jewish community in Europe. And they were trying to convince the jews to move there, most of whom had no interest, frankly, in moving to Palestine, because they were living in Europe and doing quite well in Europe and didn’t see the necessity, or didn’t really have the inclination to go and become part of a settler project, which, when you’re the first mover on those kinds of things, it isn’t always particularly in a maybe hostile place filled with Arabs, it isn’t necessarily the most alluring proposition.

 

So they saw what was happening in Germany as an opportunity, so they tried to seize it. And Hitler saw it as an opportunity to get one faction of the jews to maybe turn on the other factions, because then all the other factions would get pissed off at the Zionists for making a deal with Hitler, whilst at the same time getting rid of some jews out of Germany, which obviously was an objective.

 

So Hitler made it, you could say, a deal with the devil, which he thought was good strategy at the time. And it was actually a strategic masterstroke. Hitler was willing to, he was a strategic politician, like any good politician, looking out for the interests of their nation. I mean, he was willing to ultimately make an alliance with Stalin, not really an alliance, it was a non-Aggression pact, but he was willing to do deals ultimately in order to pursue Germany’s interests. And people say:

 

“Oh, this means that the National Socialists actually supported the Soviet Union, supported the jews!”

 

Which is the most ridiculous thing that you could possibly say! These are their mortal enemies. But it was just response to a particular strategic landscape that these things happened.

 

But getting back to re-migration. Unless you guys want to go off on that digression further, you’re welcome to interrupt and do so.

 

On the re-migration issue. I think the most beneficial thing about what the Swedish government is doing with this is that it won’t work. $34,000 US, it’s a substantial amount of money. But ultimately, going back to fucking Shitgannistan, wherever the fuck these people are from, Syria or whatever, you know, it sucks! Going back with 34 grand in your pocket. It’s still shit! And you’d much rather live in Sweden.

 

So I don’t think almost anyone is going to take this deal. And we’ll see that it won’t work. And that ultimately, if you don’t have sticks as well as carrots, you’re not getting these fucking browns out of Europe!

 

And I think we’ll learn that lesson hopefully quite quickly, as a result of the failure of this policy.

 

[50:09]

 

Blair Cottrell: You’ll get revolving door, too. What happens when they take the money, go home and run out of money? They’ll come back. And say:

 

“Oh, it didn’t work out. I’ll try again. Where’s the money?”

 

You know you can say:

 

“Oh, well, we’re going to create checks and balances so they can’t apply twice.”

 

But they’ll just come back with a different name. How are you going to tell them apart? They all look the same. [chuckling] Like it’ll be exploited. I think you’re right. It’s not going to work. There’s too many exploits.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. All of this is part of the subconscious rising of racial nationalism. I mean, slightly off topic, but in line with this concept of all these subtle ways of dealing with the problem, White people are just experts of subtle ways of dealing with the problem.

 

Let’s not be overt. Let’s just be constantly subtle. And the father, that cuck in Springfield, Ohio, whose son was killed by a Haitian migrant, and then he got up and did a speech. This is like last week, Blair, or this earlier in the week. And he said that:

 

“He wished that it was a Whiteman that killed his son.”

 

Joel Davis: Want to play it?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, sure.

 

Joel Davis: All right, give me, … You can keep going because it would take me about, …

 

Thomas Sewell: And then there was a community meeting where all these people got up and were complaining about these Haitian migrants.

 

And then there was like a black Governor, or a black town Mayor, and she was like:

 

“This meeting is over. It’s done!”

 

And there was people in the crowd that were like:

 

“But what are we going to do? How are we going to educate all these kids, they don’t speak English!”

 

And they were kind of shouting at the Mayor all these kind of sidetrack issues, not actually addressing the main issue. But it was, there’s like these traitors and there’s these lukewarm, and then there’s the fighters, as Hitler says. And the traitors are like:

 

“I wish a Whiteman killed my son.”

 

Because then there wouldn’t be more racism towards, you know, this enemy.

 

And then the lukewarms are like, they want what’s good. They’re neutral. I think neutral is a really good way of describing the normie, because they just want to live in a functioning society. They’re not bad people, but they want, I think, the same thing that the fighters want. We both want the same thing, but the fighters will come out and say it. The fighters will say:

 

“We’re going to get rid of these Haitians! Just get rid of them! Clear them out!”

 

But the neutrals will say:

 

“Oh, how are we going to? How is the school system going to work? We need to hire more teachers. Who’s going to pay for that? Because none of these Haitians speak English.”

 

And so they’re looking for some kind of gotcha moment. They’re always looking for a gotcha to try to get what they want. The problem is they’re dealing with an enemy. They’re dealing with a traitor. And the traitors like:

 

“Oh, we’ll work that out. We’ll figure that out.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Damn it! Back to the drawing board. What’s the next complaint? To try to get what we want.”

 

But it’s like, you don’t get what you want by complaining and saying, how is this going to work? Or, like:

 

“How are we going to send the Syrians from Sweden back to Syria? Do we pay them 34,000? What if they come back?”

 

There’s all these kind of arse about face, roundabout ways of trying to resolve the problem.

 

But obviously, ultimately, it’s the stick. You just got to put the fighters in charge, and the fighters, like:

 

“You’re all going home! See you later. Hope you enjoyed your holiday. Bye bye!”

 

You know, no policy, …

 

Joel Davis: Idi Amin, … Sorry.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, that’s all right.

 

Joel Davis: I was just saying, when Idi Amin came to power in Uganda, he just said to the pajeets, because there was heaps of pajeets living in Uganda at the time, you know, part of the British Empire. There was a lot of pajeet migrants through the British colonies all across Africa. You know, Gandhi was actually from South Africa, for example.

 

Anyway, he came to power and he basically told the pajeets:

 

“They got 72 hours to get the fuck out or we’re going to start shooting!”

 

And the pajeets got out!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: You know, now that’s a pretty vulgar, you know, Idi Amin is like some butcher African dictator, but that’s probably the most effective re-migration policy I’ve ever heard of anyway, here’s the video of, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What did Heinrich Himmler say about this subject? He said:

 

“Humanitarianism is the expression of cowardice and weakness.”

 

So all these humanitarian alternatives to dealing with whether it’s, you know, immigrants, re-migration. Well, you know what I’m trying to say. They don’t make you better. I think that’s a problem. A lot of these people have, government officials, people that work in the media industrial complex. What the kind of thing, like, they think that humanitarianism makes them smarter, better people. It doesn’t. It makes you an idiot! It makes you a coward and an idiot! Straight up!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

Joel Davis: I’ll play, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Like this guy right here. Like, this guy’s the perfect example of what I’m fucking talking about! Here’s some classic humanitarian cowardice and stupidity from the father of this poor kid that was. I don’t even know how the kid was killed. What’s the story behind this, Joel?

 

[54:56]

 

 

Joel Davis: By the way, talking about physiognomy like he looks like a mutt. He’s quite short. So what happened to this kid, by the way?

 

Thomas Sewell: [words unclear] Down Syndrome.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah, he does.

 

So what happened to this kid? For context, for those who don’t know, there was a Haitian who was driving recklessly, he didn’t have a licence and basically caused a bus to swerve and crash. And an eleven year old boy on the bus that tragically died as he was basically thrown out the window of the bus as it crashed, in some way. And this is his father addressing the media.

 

Father: You know, I wish that my son, Aiden Clark, was killed by a 60 year old Whiteman. I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt. But if that guy killed my eleven year old son, the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone. The last thing that we need is to have the worst day of our lives violently and constantly shoved in our faces. But even that’s not good enough for them. They take it one step further. They make it seem as though our wonderful Aiden appreciates your hate. That we should follow their hate. And look what you’ve done to us. We have to get up here and beg them to stop. Using Aiden as a political tool is, to say the least, reprehensible for any political purpose.

And speaking of morally bankrupt politicians, Bernie Moreno, Chip Roy, JD Vance, and Donald Trump, they have spoken my son’s name and used his death for political gain. This needs to stop now! They can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants, the border crisis, and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members.

However, they are not allowed, nor have they ever been allowed, to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield, Ohio. I will listen to them one more time to hear their apologies. To clear the air my son, Aiden Clark, was not murdered. He was accidentally killed by an immigrant from Haiti. This tragedy is felt all over this community, the state, and even the nation. But don’t spend this towards hate. In order to live Hayden, you need to accept everyone. Choose to shine, make the difference, lead the way, and be the inspiration! What many people in this community and state and nation are doing is the opposite of what you should be doing. Sure, we have our problems here in Springfield and in the US, but, …

 

Blair Cottrell: How was that guy’s, how he says:

 

“Donald Trump and other politicians have used the death of my son for politics.”

 

Really? Wow! Politicians use tragic circumstance for politics. That’s not going to stop, mate! When he says, this needs to stop that’s just been an eternal reality, core component of politics, and it always will be. That’s what politics is.

 

Joel Davis: He talked about a thing that happened.

 

Blair Cottrell: And the fact remains, like, he’s just trying to do what I think he’s Hoodwinked into believing is right. I mean, the guy wrote that, proofread it, and still thought it was a good idea to read that on camera.

 

Joel Davis: Like, just casually, …

 

Thomas Sewell: His wife proofread it. You can tell.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, probably.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: But the fact remains, I hope the guy hears this. I hope the guy hears this. The fact remains, mate, that if that Haitian immigrant was never in the country in the first place, your son would still be alive! It wasn’t the 60 year old Whiteman who killed your son. It was the immigrant. Your son is dead because of that immigrant! Yeah, that’s just a fact.

 

Joel Davis: I just wish that the immigrant had hit him. I wish he died. Hopefully one hits him soon. Hopefully one of these Haitian migrants eats him! I know that they prefer cats and ducks, apparently. Just I saw there’s a bit of controversy about abounding now in the American media because they’ve “fact checked”. Because in the Trump Harris debate, Trump pulled out the line of:

 

“The Haitian migrants, they’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs!”

 

And they were like:

 

“They fact checked it. No, technically, there’s no evidence of Haitians eating cats.”

 

But I’m seeing all these videos of Haitians, like, breaking cats necks and sucking their intestines out on my Twitter feed. So I don’t know what’s going on there exactly. But what I do know is that they put 20,000 [word unclear] down, and I saw a video of this guy saying that basically the government has come in and is paying way over the odds for the Haitian migrants to take up all the rentals in the town.

 

So everyone got kicked, all their leases got cancelled, and basically everyone were kicked out, because now every landlord can charge the state way over the odds to put a Haitian migrant in their house, and the rent is paid for by the State.

 

And so now there’s mass homelessness in this city. All these White people basically got thrown out of their homes so they could put Haitians in. These Haitians don’t have jobs, so they’re just loitering around on the street. They’ve come from a, you know, Haiti isn’t just war torn, Haiti is a totally, like, failed society where they’re eating mud! They’re eating, like, mud sandwiches, like, for breakfast in Haiti.

 

[1:01:15]

 

Blair Cottrell: And what’s native to Haiti? Are they, …

 

Joel Davis: They’re a bunch of niggas. They’re a bunch of, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Black people. Okay.

 

Joel Davis: They’re niggas. Like, they’re literal, like, slaves. So Haiti’s origin story is, …

 

Blair Cottrell: When you say black people, it’s like, there’s different thresholds of black people. What kind of black people in Haiti?

 

Joel Davis: They are the full niggas.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, really black, midnight heart of darkness from Africa type thing? Or the ones that can actually run, …

 

Joel Davis: Like, how much milk is in the chocolate? Because they would have raped a lot of Amerindian woman. And all the local, whatever the local DNA was of the kind of Amerindians, they’re probably being kind of garbled up into, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Like, black Brazilians. You know, you see, like, a Brazilian that’s black, and they’ve kind of got a weird kind of Mexican black look to them.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s what the average Haitian looks like. They’re kind of Mexican black. They’re not for Hispanic, but they’re mostly black.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they’re pretty nigger. Like, they’re niggas.

 

Anyway, the point is, Haiti was built off the slaves revolting against the French. And to the eternal shame of the British Empire, we helped them in our animosity to the French. They overthrew and mass raped and mass murdered. And ate literally, like, consumed the flesh of all the French that could get their hands on.

 

Thomas Sewell: 1830s, was it 1840s?

 

Joel Davis: Correct.

 

And basically, Haiti has been an anarchic cesspool of totally degenerated you know, nigger-retardation ever since. It’s like there’s African countries that are totally failed states where they’ve got child soldiers and weird voodoo magic and cannibalism and so on. Haiti has basically got that going on. Like, it’s a total shitscape. So bringing Haitian in, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s, like, worse than India. It’s actually a country worse than India. India is disgusting! But Haiti is India on steroids. Like, the trash is piling up in the streets. No one takes the trash out. So imagine years of rubbish everywhere. They’ve chopped down every tree. It’s an open sewer. It’s an open sewer!

 

And as Joel articulated, it was built. Yeah, we’ve got a problem. Yeah, it was.

 

Blair Cottrell: Remember the children are walking barefoot and pot bellied! We got a problem! Remember that testimony?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Black people. Not one seafaring ship. Not one! [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: And they never built one boat that was seaworthy. Not one! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, Haitians are disgusting!

 

And again, they have the legacy of White genocide. Haiti as a country, I mean, it was a French colony, as Joel articulated, probably ten or 20% French. And then a whole bunch of African slaves were there picking the cotton fields, or it was probably sugarcane or fruit, something like that. And, yeah, there was a planned revolt, and they overthrew the French overlords and they killed them all. And they killed all the mulattoes that were in any sort of administrative or middle tier, middle rank, kind of like the Second Class, if the first class was the full blooded Whites, and the kind of Amerindian or African mulattoes with White blood in them were the kind of Second Class that helped, like the house niggers. And then the third class were the field niggers.

 

And basically the field niggers revolted and killed all the Whites, ate them and raped them, and then they killed all the mulattoes. Because they had too much White in them and they didn’t trust them. So they killed all the people that knew how to manage a farm, how to do anything [chuckling] other than just the most basic manual labour and be told what to do.

 

So then they all starved to death. Basically, like, 80% of the population died. And then what’s left are kind of the cannibals that managed to survive that genetic selective process. So they’re just, the worst scum, …

 

Joel Davis: That’s why foreign aid is disgusting, because they send all these UN aid packages to breed the Haitians back up to a large level.

 

Thomas Sewell: And then they dump them on America like a bio, …

 

Joel Davis: Like just degenerate into savagery and their population numbers will just collapse and barely any of them will be alive, which is good because they’re an abomination. But no, we’ve got to go and send in UN aid packages and raise money for Haiti. And then now we’ve got millions and millions of Haitians, and then all these do good libtards and shit now start importing them into the United States.

 

And actually Kamala Harris herself, like, personally presided over a programme to resettle Haitians in the United States en masse, which is why it has been made into a political campaign issue in the US presidential election over the past week, because they’re able to kind of pin this on her specifically.

 

And Trump was posting all these memes about how, like Kamala Harris is wants to kill all the cats in America and cats for Trump and shit! It’s kind of, it’s become this whole meme. And people have criticised it, saying:

 

“Why is he focusing on the eating cats thing.”

 

Rather than on the real issues of how, like, White people, like, you didn’t really say anything about how, like, average White people in Ohio, how their quality of life has been basically thrown off a cliff and their entire town has been ruined and thrown into chaos. So he’s not really kind of taking it seriously with his rhetoric, but just going for the meme. But the meme solicits the media reactions. So that’s like one argument for going for it.

 

But what’s interesting, I guess, about this is a few things, actually. One, they identified Catholic charities as being integral in the process of resettling them. And people say:

 

“Oh, but the Catholic charities are all run by jews!”

 

It’s like, yeah, there’s some jews involved, but, like, you have to acknowledge, libtard Catholics literally presided over this mass resettlement Program of Haitians.

 

[1:07:25]

 

Blair Cottrell: The Catholics had to sign off on it.

 

Joel Davis: There’s a whole bunch of libtards that are in the Catholic Church that operate within the Catholic Church’s framework.

 

Thomas Sewell: I bet the women have the same haircut. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, that’s interesting dynamic because, you know, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Long house haircut. Oh, God!

 

Blair Cottrell: You guys seen that theory? Apparently there’s this supernatural creature called the Mothman. They made a movie about it with, yeah, what was that guy’s name? It’s a real story. If there’s real sightings of this creature called Mothman that appears before a tragedy is going to happen and tries to warn you about it. And there’s stories about it having been seen a lot in Ohio right before a bridge in Ohio collapsed. I think it might have been in the nineties. But I was just saying [chuckling] that as a result of the immigrants from Haiti, maybe there’s a shitload of Mothman sightings right now. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: The Haitians probably ate the Mothman, bro!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] Mothman’s probably dead.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, man! He was just trying to warn us. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Haitians ate that nigger. It’s over! I don’t know. Maybe he’s not cute enough for them to eat. They seem to only eat cute things, like French people, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I took notes. Hold on. I took notes before when that cuck was talking, because it’s really important, like, dissecting that dad whose son died. He kept saying:

 

“It’s a political tool. It’s a political game.”

 

And what it came across is he is thinking politically. I don’t think the average person is thinking that politically, if the prime minister or the president talks about their son dying, they’re not thinking like:

 

“Oh, this fucking asshole! How dare he talk about my son dying!”

 

You know if someone’s son died, and then if you’re not a political person and the Albanese says that, like, mentions about the son dying, you’re not going to get upset about that you can be like:

 

“Oh, well the government recognises this tragedy, okay. Like, they’ve got their take on it.”

 

But you don’t think, like:

 

“They’re trying to win the argument. How dare you try to win the argument. You’re trying to win the argument!”

 

It’s very feminine the way he was talking came across, so he wasn’t concerned about the truth, which should be your main concern. Like, if your son died, someone’s responsible.

 

And then later on, he didn’t even say that the Haitian was responsible. He specifically said, although he is correct, it’s not murder, it’s manslaughter.

 

But he didn’t say that it was manslaughter. He said it was “accidentally killed”. So that the Haitian wasn’t responsible:

 

“It’s not the Haitians fault. You see. There should be no consequence, there should be no punishment, because it was an accident!”

 

And this is this just this long house. It’s this constant, overwhelming force coming from these faggot cucked men and women, and a lot of women as well. But I’m mostly focused on the men.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s objectively not an accident as well. It’s culpable driving. That’s not an accident. It’s even legally recognised. It’s a crime.

 

Joel Davis: We did a vehicular homicide. And he said:

 

“Wouldn’t it be good if I wish it was a 60 year old Whiteman that killed my son?”

 

Yeah, he said that. Murdered. So White men does it. You want it to be a murder because you want to be able to talk about how evil White people are or something like it’s, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What a failure of a father. Like, dismal failure of a father is all that comes to mind.

 

Thomas Sewell: So they are always projecting. He’s saying:

 

“How dare JD Vance and Donald Trump use this as a political tool so that they can win their political game!”

 

But he is using it as a political tool! He’s trying to win a political game, and he’s projecting! They are only mentioning the truth, and he doesn’t want the truth mentioned because the truth gets in the way of him and his traitor ilk winning their political game! That’s my breakdown of it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And I’ve seen this many times, particularly in England. But you see, I’ve seen it in America as well, where a young person, child, is murdered by some kind of illegal immigrant or other type of immigrant, and the parents are brought out to say:

 

“It’s nothing to do with race!”

 

Thomas Sewell: And I love Mexico.

 

Joel Davis: You don’t blame any particular community.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Stop the hate!

 

Joel Davis: If I was killed as a child by some shitskin, you know, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Tell me you would not come back as a ghost. You’d come back as a ghost.

 

Joel Davis: Like fucking niggers!

 

Blair Cottrell: You’d come back as a ghost.

 

Joel Davis: Okay. Like, at least my death was kind of cool. At least my parents are angry. Like, at least I was loved as a child.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Tell me you would not come back as a ghost and whisper into your father’s ear every night until he did something about it:

 

“Kill them all!”

 

[chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, yeah, speaking of, there’s another story, an opposite story that Joel shared today of the Swedish teenagers that tortured and killed that Afghani rapist. They all got off!

 

Joel Davis: Oh, yeah, yeah. So they actually, I think, were convicted originally, but they got off on appeal.

 

So basically the story TLDRx is that, so this Swedish girl was raped by some Arab piece of shit, and she must have sent him a message or something, saying:

 

“Oh, hey, like, let’s meet up.”

 

Or whatever, and lured him in so that all of her friends could basically fuck him up and kill him. Now, I don’t think, like, she obviously can be like:

 

“Oh, I didn’t know what they were going to do.”

 

So she obviously, I think, got away with that one. But they were all tried for murder, but they were acquitted on appeal because none of them talked. And their lawyers argued that:

 

“Well, all five of them couldn’t have done the murder at the same time. So that means you don’t actually know which one of them actually committed the murder.”

 

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Blair Cottrell: Who cares? Just convict them all!

 

Thomas Sewell: No, we say don’t convict them all. No! Five White kids killed a black, Blair, you’ve misread.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, sorry, I heard the wrong way around. Don’t convict them. Don’t convict them!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Black raped a White girl. And then the five White friends of the White girl lynched the black and torched him.

 

Blair Cottrell: And they got away with justices served. Why is there even any court case.

 

Thomas Sewell: And they got away with it. The reason why they got appealed is because nobody talks, everybody walks! That’s the fucking rule! No comment! [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: Imagine that. Imagine White boys understanding how White courts work.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. Nobody talks, everybody walks!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Anyway, that’s just interesting story. Yeah, took some pleasure in it.

 

So, yeah, like hail to those kids.

 

Thomas Sewell: Swedish friends.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Good luck to them. Hope they enjoy their freedom. They deserved it, but, …

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re heroes.

 

Joel Davis: Teenage girls that get raped by these fucking shitskins and then they end up killing themselves. I like that this Swedish girl, instead of killing herself, went and got her friends together and was like:

 

“Let’s kill this fucking motherfucker!”

 

That’s a nice response. Yeah, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Then it needs to happen more often because I can’t fathom. Every man is gonna get, and not every man, but some men are gonna get tested in life with something as serious as this. A family member, you know, their wife, their daughter, you know, is going to have a bad circumstance with multiculturalism and diversity. And when that happens, you should really consider is it worth living in the shame of not doing something about that? Now I’m not going to advocate for violence because that would be illegal. But are you going to live in shame for the rest of your life, or are you going to do something about it?

 

And if it never happens to you, then you’re kind of lucky in a way that you never get your mettle really tested.

 

But yeah, it’s good to know that there are people out there that are like:

 

“Fuck it! I’m going to die on this hill. This is unacceptable. I don’t care what the punishment is. I don’t care what the consequences are. This should not have happened. And we need justice!”

 

And the Swedish courts. I mean, there’s cases and for sure they did this with the motivation and with the knowledge that there are cases of Swedish girls that have been raped. They’ve gone to the police. The police have locked up or arrested the rapist and the courts have let the rapists go and then paid them out 3 million krona or whatever the fuck it is for undue processes or something like that.

 

I mean, there was a there was an Afghani or Syrian that raped a Swedish girl recently and he was released and then he sued the Swedish government for some sort of like. There was some issue with the paperwork.

 

I can’t remember exactly what it was, but it was like he didn’t prove that he didn’t do the rape. He just proved that some undue process he had to go through like as part of his incarceration. And he got paid out like millions of krona, which I think is like hundreds of thousands of dollars, like 700 grand or something. And he got an early release as well. I think he only did three years and he was meant to do six or something. And it’s just fucking disgusting!

 

So if the justice system won’t do their job, it’s time for just global White civil disobedience and we should just get our own justice.

 

Joel Davis: I agree very much with Hersant’s view that we don’t give anywhere near enough love to the KKK anymore. [Thomas laughs] Ku Klux Klan. No, they seriously, they are true fucking heroes of the Aryan race. They kept America’s streets safe for White people for decades, not just through infiltrating the government and basically running the Democrat party for many, many generations. But also through some extra legal guarantees of peace and order in the streets. And they deserve a lot more respect and admiration.

 

At one point, think about this. At their peak, I think in the 1920s, like, one in ten American men were in the Ku Klux Klan. That’s how many klans from. They had like 5 million klansmen or something in the United States. And, well, America was a White supremacist country at that point. And black people did not fuck around. They were behaving themselves largely across the board, you know, trying to wear a suit and go to church and prove themselves to the Whiteman. And the Whiteman actually had a dignified existence in the United States at that point in history. And America was a great nation thanks to the Klan!

 

And since the Klan was dissolved basically after the Second World War, the whole place has gone to shit! So really, the Ku Klux Klan was really holding together, the whole of America when you look at it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Was that thanks to the Klan, or was the Klan kind of born of that circumstance? Maybe a bit of both.

 

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Joel Davis: Well, I think the Klan deserves a lot of credit. I mean, because they had basically infiltrated the courts, the legal system, the state itself. They were incredibly well connected in addition to the extra legal activities, let’s say.

 

So it’s not just about you know, lynching some rapist negro, but it’s about the fact that they basically strike fear into the heart of those communities. Like:

 

“Well, you better not fuck around because the Klansman is going to fetch the rope!”

 

So when you create that credible fear. Like, we’re talking about Hitler’s re-migration policy, when the jews are like:

 

“Here’s your ability to move to Palestine, or you can stay in Germany with us. And here’s all the Goebbels anti-semitic propaganda getting Beamed at everyone.”

 

And the Nuremberg rally and stuff. It’s like:

 

“Where do you want to go jews?”

 

At the moment, there isn’t the fear to go along with the “here’s your way out”. Where when the Klan was around, there was, fear is the only language these savage races understand. It really is.

 

But, yeah, but organised White Mendez are the backbone of civilisation. Civilisation cannot stand without organised White men holding together justice in a society and order.

 

And so I think the Klan deserves a lot more credit than it gets. Because a lot of their activities were clandestine. That, like they can’t be celebrated as openly and ostensibly as the cause for what was looking back on it now, a golden era, really, in American history. That kind of White supremacist zenith that was the early part of the 20th century.

 

But I think you know, looking at it objectively, I think they have to take a very substantial amount of the credit for that. And they should be admired. I’m not saying everyone should get the White Hoods out and redo the whole Klan larp, but they should be admired nevertheless, a lot more in the culture for the role that they played. And that’s probably a controversial take. And people say:

 

“Oh, but then the Klan, there’s all these they were Freemasons and they went after this group, they went after Italians and blah, blah, blah!”

 

Yeah, whatever. Like I’m not, I don’t really want to get stuck in the minutiae of all of that. I was talking about the very basic, the very basic kind of fact of White men organised around, you know, rudimentary justice, racial justice and racial self defense.

 

And society is breaking down. The civil order is breaking down. This is going to be the only way that you’re going to be able to secure your communities going forward in the coming decades. Like, the state is not going to Reform itself and become better at executing law and order. Like the anarcho-tyranny is only going to get more and more retarded as time goes on.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. Think about Ohio as a textbook example where the government are nefarious. And a malicious government can send, 20,000 turbo niggers into your town of, I think it was either 38,000 or 58,000 Whites. And they sent like a quarter of the population, or a third of the population to just, … And they’re mostly, what? Young fighting age men. And they’re all speaking, you know, they’re all foreigners in a big country, so they’re going to stick together.

 

So even though they’re only a third of the population, that’s a powerful third, a very powerful third. Because most of the Ohio, it’s probably, they’ve got more fighting age men. I would guarantee that’s 20,000 Haitians would be more fighting age men than 60,000 Whites, because you’ve got women. And then think about all the old people that are in Ohio. Springfield, it’s like a small town. Like, mostly young people probably moved to the big cities for work.

 

So they’ve just built, they’ve just shipped an army of blacks into your town! And this is why White flight is not the solution. And having more children is not the solution.

 

I mean, these things are they can assist, you know, setting up defensible positions is important. Getting out of the poison and the poverty and, it’s just like the environment, culturally and physically, is polluted in the cities. So, yeah, it’s important to live somewhere that you can be healthy and raise children in a healthy way. And of course, healthy children is important. Having as many as you can.

 

But it still doesn’t solve the problem. Just more White people for the meat grinder. I mean, we can’t, we’re not going to out breed these population groups. We have to actually solve the problem before they become the demographic majority.

 

And that’s why it’s so important. As always, here’s a little segment for today’s show to get active, to build in real life community. Because I watched the town hall meetings. I watched two of them from Ohio, Springfield, and they were disgusting! It was like the, there was a couple men with some courage that stood up and they’re saying:

 

“Why is this happening? And this is not right and this is unfair.”

 

And then they basically get told:

 

“This meeting is over. This meeting is over!”

 

Like the DMV lady, like the black Mayor is like:

 

“This meeting is over. We’re not doing this!”

 

And then they’re standing there like:

 

“That’s illegal. You can’t do that you can’t shut down a meeting mid Question Time, or mid speaking time. This is against the Constitution or against the rules of Ohio. You know, the state legislator has to allow the time. The public has a right of reply, or a right of engagement in the political process, and you’re just undermining those rights.”

 

And the real question is, what the fuck are you going to do about it? You know, the system now is so nefarious and evil, it just makes the rules up as it goes along.

 

So what are you going to fucking do about it? You don’t get a right of reply. You don’t have Civil Liberties! You can’t sit there and say:

 

“I don’t want 20,000 Haitians in my town!”

 

They don’t give a fuck! They just steamroll you’re just an individual and individuals, …

 

Joel Davis: If you had 20,000 Klansmen in Ohio.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly! It was very different.

 

Joel Davis: Whose cats are getting eaten then? No one.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] 20,000 Klansmen. But that’s the point. You can’t run from this. You can’t hide from this. No matter where you are, no matter how isolated or how alienated you are, if you’re in the cities, you’re surrounded on all sides.

 

Like where I live right now, in the Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, there’s probably 70 or so houses on my street, I’ve only seen, other than myself, only two other White families. There’s three White families on my street. And I’m in a kind of a middle class or like well, there’s no such thing as middle class anymore, but I’m in a decent area in the Eastern suburbs of Melbourne.

 

Joel Davis: You’re surrounded by gooks, not Indians and niggas.

 

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Thomas Sewell: There are Indians. No, no, there’s a lot of Indians. There’s three Indians in very close proximity, but it is mostly Chinese. But there’s also a lot of Indians. It’s probably, like 80% Chinese and probably 15% Indian.

 

But, you know what I mean? Like, there’s no running from there’s no hiding from this. We got to organise everywhere we go, whatever town you’re in. That town meeting would be very different if there was 100 or 200 men! Actual fucking men in the town! If there was just 100 or 200 men in that town of 58,000, and they went to that town meeting and they said:

 

“No, this meeting isn’t over!”

 

And they fucking, you know, who’s going to turn on those 200 men? The local police? No fucking way! They’d have to bring the feds in. They’d have to bring in some outside force to crush those 200 men! Because the local police would probably side. What if it’s in a small town environment, I don’t see any reason why these 200 men couldn’t be friends with the local police in a small town. That would be appropriate. It’s not like you’re dealing with the feds. You’re not breaking the rules there. You know, the Klan was very successful at controlling local police forces.

 

So, yeah, we need the Klan. We need to bring back the Klan. Jacob was right again.

 

But, yeah, just get active!