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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video Tim and Blair Cottrell discusses the following:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel Davis’ bail, legal situation, speech restrictions, and broader changes in Australia; they also discuss the Ben Roberts‑Smith case and, later, Iran–Pakistan talks.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair is on a phone with limited charge after failing to find the correct cord at local convenience stores; he’s in a hotel after driving ~10–11 hours (Melbourne→Sydney) to visit Joel.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel Davis was jailed in isolation for roughly four months as a “national security threat” over a Telegram post alleged to have “offended/harassed” the politician Allegra Spender.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel was released on bail by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of New South Wales; supporters reportedly raised about AU$40,000, and he’s “down to his last 4,000” after legal costs.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair: Most people charged with Joel’s primary offence don’t go to jail; Joel hasn’t been convicted, only accused.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel’s bail conditions include: No smartphone, no posting to social media, and an effective internet ban for posting; he can use a computer for limited access but not to post.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Quote: “He’s banned from the internet.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair says Joel is “sharper and clearer” after months away from distractions: “All you can really do is read and write.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel is reportedly in good spirits and grateful to supporters; Blair: “He hasn’t changed at all!”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair contrasts Australia and the U.S.: “We don’t have free speech rights down here,” noting speech about officials can trigger charges (menacing/harassing).</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair asserts courts/police focused intensely on Joel after a high-profile terror attack in Bondi; he characterizes a political/ideological motive.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair: At lower court level, magistrates implied Joel was detained due to “ideological connections” and public sensitivity.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel has “beyond nine” additional charges, many from streaming; Blair says six charges stem from one stream.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Alleged offences include “inciting contempt or revulsion of a specific class of people” under Australia’s racial/religious tolerance laws; Blair lists comments about jewish, Indian, and black people.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Police seized Joel’s phone; Blair claims some charges relate to jokes in private DMs that mentioned people by name.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair argues Joel is being charged for things “Americans have the freedom to do,” comparing to Nick Fuentes’ style; quote: “It demonstrates the difference legally between Australia and America.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair: “You’re essentially guilty until you try to pay enough to prove yourself innocent.” He says “the process is the punishment.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Expected timeline: 12–18 months of appearances; Joel may try to consolidate matters so multiple charges are heard together.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Travel restrictions: Joel and Tom Sewell are each confined to their own states on bail; permission to cross state lines is discretionary.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Joel is banned from Bondi (where his partner and child live) due to perceived community sensitivities; he must reside with his mother. His family can visit him (about an hour’s drive).</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair recounts Joel’s arrest at a café; police informed Joel’s partner (who was due to give birth the next day) after his arrest; alleged arrest footage came from police bodycams.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Fundraising: GiveSendGo praised for allowing campaigns; Blair notes 10 years ago there was no crypto or comparable donation infrastructure.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair offers one-on-one fitness consultations (contact via Telegram/Instagram); Tim offers to connect an interested viewer.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">NSN (National Socialist Network) has disbanded, Blair says, to avoid members being jailed under “hate group” laws; quote: “That chapter…is done.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair: Criticizing the jewish community openly is now “basically illegal in Australia,” requiring a new approach to discourse.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Shift in Australian policing described: New AFP “task forces” (anti‑semitism, “social cohesion/racism”) reportedly created in the last 6–8 months; Blair alleges politicisation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Ben Roberts‑Smith segment: Presented as a decorated Special Forces veteran (Afghanistan) long held as a national hero for rescuing comrades under fire.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Media defamation case: He sued journalist Nick McKenzie; court found for media on grounds it “could be true,” which Blair says shows journalists can print damaging claims.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Now Roberts‑Smith faces five war-crimes charges; investigators are said to have travelled to Afghanistan to collect statements against Australian soldiers.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair questions the timing (“years after the fact”), suggests morale and recruitment will suffer; veterans reportedly returning their medals in protest.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair highlights a photographed patch (a crusader-style cross) edited out by Australian media to avoid minority offence; he sees this as political censorship.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Blair says Australia is prosecuting alleged war crimes domestically (AFP-led), not just via military courts; ads have sought testimony from Afghans in Australia.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Quote: “We need to stand with our own, even if they do make mistakes sometimes,” given the enemy didn’t follow similar rules of engagement.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Toward the end, Tim pivots to Iran: Pakistan hosts talks with Iran; speculation that the U.S./Israel want regime change and that talks may be stalling tactics.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Tim says closure/constraint at the Strait of Hormuz harms BRICS more than the West; mentions reports that JD Vance, Jared Kushner, and Steve Witkoff are involved in a US negotiating team; Israel–Lebanon strikes also noted.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> This is Tim Murdoch. You’re watching WhiteRabbitRadio live in Game Exotica, the interview series. We have on Blair Cottrell. He will be on hopefully for almost a whole show, but most likely only half a show because he’s on a phone and all these, I guess we can say foreign run convenience stores don’t have the right cord for him.</p>
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<p>So his phones might run out of charge on us and probably will. So get your questions in. We’re here to talk about Joel Davis and things going on over in Australia. Joel can’t be on because of his crazy bail.</p>
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<p>So how you doing, Blair?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m doing fine, man! It’s nice and early here. Not that early. What is it, like 8 o’ clock in the morning? But rolled out of bed, frantically searched for the local convenience stores with friendly local neighborhood Indians. Trying to find the Right charger cord. And I bought one not to let you guys down, but then it’s the wrong one. So we’re just gonna have to see how long this lasts.</p>
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<p>But the reason I’m in a hotel is because a friend and I traveled from Melbourne to Sydney last night. It’s like a nine hour drive. Australia is a big country like America, but when you factor in the couple of stops to get fuel, it ends up being like 10 or 11 hours. And we did that to visit Joel. First time I’ve seen Joel since he’s been released from prison. Been released on bail about a week ago, just less than a week ago.</p>
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<p>He’s got stacked of new charges on him. He was initially. If you guys don’t know the story, Joel’s someone I stream with down here. Joel Davis, political commentator and streamer from Australia. He was charged with offending a politician <span style="color: #008000;">[Allegra Spender]</span>, harassing or offending a politician in a Telegram post for a comment he made in a Telegram post that was posted to his public channel. And he was held in isolation as a “<em>national security threat</em>” for the last four months. He was finally released on bail by a Supreme Court justice, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of New South Wales. But he had to pay a lot of money to get there. I think he raised maybe 40,000 from his supporters to get to that point to be released on bail from the Supreme Court. But I think he’s like down to his last 4,000 now.</p>
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<p>So that’s how much it’s cost him just to get bail for a relatively not less than serious charge. It’s not really a serious charge. It typically carries a pretty low imprisonment rate. I think 6.5% of people that get charged with the same offense that Joel’s been charged with actually end up going to jail at all! So almost 95% of people that get charged with this don’t even go to jail at all! Joel hasn’t even been found guilty yet. He’s not even been convicted. He’s just been accused! But he was held in prison because he’s considered a “<em>national security threat</em>” due to his ideology and various opinions that he shares while he’s streaming.</p>
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<p>So I had dinner with him last night, and he hasn’t changed at all! If anything, he’s, like, sharper and clearer and even more intelligent than he was before. It’s not surprising because when you sit in jail for a while, you’re removed from all of the petty distractions and the quote, unquote, “<em>degeneracy</em>” of normal society, and all you can really do is read and write. And when you do that for four months straight, you come out quite sharp and clear.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, he’s in great spirits. He’s very happy to be home. Very grateful to everyone who supported him. He is. Everybody who made it possible for him to get bail, who pitched into the fundraiser. That was huge! But yeah, we had a good laugh. We had some food. He’s feeling good. So that’s where he’s at right now!</p>
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<p>But he’s banned from the Internet.</p>
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<p>The reason I have to speak for him, I guess, or update you guys, is Joel is banned from the Internet! Okay? He can’t even have a smartphone, guys. The judge has ruled that he has to have an old brick phone that can’t access the Internet. He’s allowed to access the Internet by computer, but he can’t post anything to social media. He can’t comment on anything, and he can’t have access to the Internet from his phone. Those are his bail conditions imposed by the Supreme Court Justice.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Can we petition? Can I pay a lawyer to petition to get him on WhiteRabbitRadio? I wonder how funny that would be. How would that go?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I doubt it.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> I think they’d probably throw him back in jail or something, right? Try to throw me in jail, maybe.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> But anyways. I think that’s kind of funny, though. Well, it’s funny that they’re going to that extreme, but they’re just trying to make an example out of him, and they did. Is there any precedents for trying to keep him off the Internet or denying his civil, &#8230; This is denying his Civil Liberties in a modern, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We don’t really have., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Denying him the public square. I mean, he can’t come on a radio show and talk about his case. He can’t have a smartphone and post to his Telegram. Even if he’s not violating, &#8230; Telegram is not illegal in Australia. It’s not illegal for him to post on Telegram. It’s just illegal for him to say certain things which they’re constantly trying not to specifically define.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There is some precedent. Look, this demonstrates the bail conditions imposed on Joel basically being banned from the Internet because the accusation against him stems from a post made on the Internet.</p>
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<p>And so while the matter is still active and a conviction is yet to be found bail conditions preventing him from using the Internet. This kind of thing demonstrates the disparity between Australia and America. We don’t have Civil Liberties. We don’t have free speech rights down here. Like, so no one has the rights to be criticizing any government official, really. As long as you’re not being overly belligerent. You might be able to, but depending on the language you used, you can be charged with menacing or harassing or maybe something else. It’s getting quite tight down here, especially in recent years. But there’s been a significant shift in the past six months or so.</p>
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<p>I mean, last year, after our most significant or our worst terror attack in the country’s history occurred on Bondi beach in New South Wales, a couple of Muslim characters opened fire on people on a beach specifically targeting jewish people. I think it was at a jewish festival of some sort. It’s like certain government bureaucrats were so disappointed that the shooters weren’t White guys that they just unleashed on Joel Davis! It’s like the Eye of Sauron was just completely focused on Joel Davis. And Joel’s, like, really surprised by it. When we were eating dinner last night, he was laughing! He’s like:</p>
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<p>He’s almost struggling. He’s laughing at it, but he’s almost struggling to wrap his head around the logistics of it. And it doesn’t actually make sense.</p>
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<p>So there is some precedent for people being restricted from using the Internet in a certain way if their accusation relates to something on the Internet in Australia. But the major point to consider is its very different from America. Here, basically, you can be just held indefinitely while your matter is being argued without any proof of guilt. You’re essentially guilty until you try to pay enough to prove yourself innocent. You know, so the whole concept of “<em>innocent until proven guilty</em>”, it exists in legal theory, but in practice it doesn’t exist because you get accused of something and then you sit in jail until the matter is finalized in court, until you pay enough money to prove your innocence, or do a deal and get out somehow.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> He can talk with his friends, he can talk with you and go to dinner with you. Not a problem. What he’s restricted from like former NSN because that’s been disbanded. For instance, if Tom comes and sees him, can he see Tom?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m pretty sure he can, but the thing is, Tom has also been charged with a number of offenses which confine him to his state. And Joel resides in a different state right now, the neighboring state.</p>
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<p>So you can’t cross state boundaries legally while you’re on bail for these offenses. And Joel can’t leave the state either.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> They basically have to have their cases done with, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Correct. Yeah. So they can move through states freely again. And that’s very standard for any sort of indictable criminal offense for which you’re on bail. You’re not supposed to leave the state without permission. So technically they could call the police and say:</p>
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<p>But it just comes down to the whim of some police bureaucrat whether or not you can actually do that.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah. Not a free country! But none of us live in a free country. Just some more than others at the moment, maybe. When does this, how long. What is the next step for him? How long will this take before he can get to court? Because now he’s released on bail. But the matters are still pending. These guys have all kinds of matters pending, technically, I guess.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. While Joel was in what’s called Long Bay Jail, New South Wales, in isolation, being held without conviction as a national security risk, he was hit with something like nine other charges, or more than that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I can’t remember what he said. There’s a whole bunch of other charges.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Are they more or less serious charges? I remember this, but when it comes to these Australia charges these charges are serious, but they’re not doing it. I mean, these guys really aren’t doing anything! They’re just hitting crazy charges over Telegram posts or crazy charges for getting into an argument with the shitlibs or it’s just total insanity!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But nonetheless, the charges are there and the charges are very serious on the books. And the police treat them like these are major criminal offenses and terrorists and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Typically, for this kind of thing, the police wouldn’t usually get out of bed for something like what Joel posted on Telegram, it’s just because of his ideology. And that was more or less admitted by the court system in the magistrates level of court, which is a lower level of a state court in Australia. Magistrates were just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, usually bail would apply, but because of his ideological connections and the sensitivity around that, given this recent terror attack, he needs to be held in prison.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Basically. That’s what they were essentially saying.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But look, all of the charges that Joel has, I think there’s beyond nine of them right now! Nine or ten or maybe even more. They’re all in relation to streaming. Okay. They’re from things. I think he has six charges from one stream! From the things he said about other ethnic groups.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[13:05]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> These are streams with you? These are streams with Americans or you don’t know?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Stream with me. Yeah, well, it was just a stream out of Australia with me. The one in question. The’s being charged with a number of offenses relating to “<em>inciting contempt or revulsion of a specific class of people</em>”, which is relatively new legislation under Australia’s Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> This is saying something about jews, probably.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, one I think is comments about jewish people. One is about Indian people and the other is about black people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all of the comments, there’s like six different charges I think, if my memory serves me right. But I know he’s definitely been charged a bunch of times in relation to one stream. And here’s the thing man, and this is what’s super interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You probably heard Nick Fuentes have a crack at Joel and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s just a Wignat. This was always going to happen to this guy. What an idiot! Whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Joel has been charged for essentially being a groiper and streaming, like doing exactly what Nick Fuentes does.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, but he’s in Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He’s been charged for what he’s saying in streams, and then directing his followers to criticize politicians on X. He’s been charged with doing the same thing. Americans have the freedom to do this apparently, but we don’t.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, Nick actually said something that over his sentencing after the fact. But nonetheless, he can be on all sides of the ball, depending on who’s on his nerves on any given day.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think Nick’s great value. When he initially, his comments were:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, this was always going to happen to Joel!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I think when you look at the charges, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Liek:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The charge this is bullshit!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or something. I forget what he said.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, it’s bullshit when you look at the charges. Initially, you’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, Joel was pretty loose!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everyone can agree that Joel was pretty loose. He was going pretty hard.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When you look at what he’s actually being charged with doing. What he’s actually being charged for doing is basically the same thing that Nick does for a living. And you’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What? Hang on, it doesn’t., &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like I said, it demonstrates the difference legally between Australia and America, and it demonstrates how important it is to have legislation, constitutional rights to freedom of speech, because this is what happens when you don’t have that.</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Fascinating. So how long will this take before all this particular case is over with and all these other cases. What’s the lineup like?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’d imagine he’s got 12 to 18 months of court appearances, but his next move will be to, at his own convenience, try to get all of the charges heard in bulk in one or two matters, so he doesn’t have to go to court for every single different offense.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> It’s all the same.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Otherwise. It’s just too, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Him running his mouth. It’s all the same stuff. Him live streaming and talking.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And there’s the Telegram post, which is a different category of offending, but similar still. And there’s a bunch of other offenses in relation to other things he said. He’s even being charged in relation to private messages he’s had. Because when the police. This is what I forgot to mention. When the police arrested him, the Federal Police, they took his phone, they went through everything, and he’s been making jokes with friends in private conversations that he’s been charged for. Like, literal private conversations that were never public. Because he’s mentioned people specifically in some of those, like, comments, which was all in jest mostly because when you’re talking to the boys, you think it’s private. You say stuff. You say stuff that you don’t think other people would see. But the police have gone through all of it. And he’s got charges in relation to private DMs as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> That’s, its such bullshit! None of these politicians could hold up to those standards. And it’s absurd! But nonetheless, it’s something he’s going through. I remember his fundraiser. I remember putting up and his fundraiser was doing well. Does he have enough money for court? You guys have some good lawyers these days compared to like 10 years ago.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, 10 years ago I was relying on the sympathy, &#8230; When I was charged with “<em>hate speech</em>”, I was relying on the sympathy of one lawyer, one lawyer slash barrister, like performing two roles. And I paid him as much as I could, but it was never quite enough. These days there’s a lot more resources available, there’s a lot more sympathy internationally. And the lawyers that Joel has access to, the barrister he used at the Supreme Court, all very professional, top tier stuff. And having access to that for him right now is like indispensable!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Plus, there was no such thing as, like GiveSendGo or anything like that, back in the day. There was no crypto.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Shout out to GiveSendGo too, by the way. Like just standing strong in the face of all the pressure they must receive from governments around the world and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, we believe in free speech. If these people want to raise money, they’re not doing anything illegal. They can raise money.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like most platforms, most fundraiser platforms would not do that. So GiveSendGo, they’re top notch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[18:26]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, I haven’t checked out his fundraiser. I’m assuming it’s still going or I know he hit his goal. That’s all I remember.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think maybe he was saying to me last night that he’s nearly spent at all! Just to get bail.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> I would imagine.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But, I don’t know the details of when he goes to court next and what’s going to be necessary. So once that is known, I’ll help get the information out there and we’ll see what we can do to keep helping him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Okay. And Tom as well. Right. And who else? I know that there’s other guys charged, correct?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, there’s a bunch of guys with a bunch of charges. I don’t even know how many. I think the point, obviously is you’re probably understanding Tim. I think the point is just to bog you down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The point is like to just throw this hooked net, this hooked net of just legal nonsense over you that you get entangled in for years. You spend your energy on it, you spend your money on it. And that just kind of holds you back from activism, politics and what you really care about. And that’s the way the Australian government deals with its dissidents.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> The “<em>process is the punishment</em>”, as they say over here. That’s the whole entire deal. You might get off because it’s all bullshit, but you’re going to have to go through money and it’s all big pain in the ass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hopefully everyone comes out smarter and more clever. But nonetheless, it sounds like he’s in good spirits. And now this particular program where you can’t be on a smartphone or anything like that, that’ll continue until that particular or trial is over?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think the intent generally, because he has 20 bail conditions, I think, that’s more bail conditions than I’ve ever heard anyone having! Even like the worst criminals don’t get that. I think that the Supreme Court Justice probably just wanted to demonstrate that she was taking everything seriously. She wasn’t just releasing him willy nilly. She wanted to demonstrate to the (((right people))) that she still considers him very threatening. Whatever.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Why did he have to be released to his mother and not his wife and kid?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, this is the funny, this is a weird thing. He’s been banned from Bondi, where his partner lives. And that’s public knowledge now because the media, like doxed her ages ago and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Literally took a photo on there. Yeah, she was coming out the front of her house. They literally was waiting for her, taking a photo, which I don’t know how that’s legal, is that stalking? The media seems to be able to do whatever they want here. So I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> She’s being a public person now. But they do celebrities. Where there is no decorum, there is no decency in the societies we live in anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s a good way to put it. Right. And that’s how it feels, definitely!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in Bondi, that’s where the terror attack happened against members of the jewish community. And because of Joel’s public statements considered anti-semitic and because there’s a considerable population of jewish people living in Bondi, that seems to be the reason he’s been banned from that whole suburb. He can’t go to that suburb!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Despite the fact that his partner and child live there. And that was his previous residence. That’s where he lived as well. He can’t go home. He’s not allowed to go there because jews live there!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Can they come and see him? Can they come to his mother?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They can visit him, but I think it’s like an hour’s drive or something, so there’s a bit of a distance to travel. But they have visited him regularly since he’s been out. He’s building a relationship with his son:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“My son seems to like me. He’s happy when I hold him.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Is what Joel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, my son likes me.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s good news. It was just good to see him last night Tim. He’s happy. He’s the same old Joel, but kind of sharper and more energetic than ever!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, I know that when he first got in, it was really bad! Right. Did he have any stories from jail that he told you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So many! Too many to get into. It was really funny because even though he’s in isolation, he’s in isolation with other guys in other cells who can all talk to each other through the vents and the walls.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And so, yeah, he met some very interesting characters. Very funny stories. Probably the funniest thing that I could share without stepping on any toes or upsetting anybody. I didn’t know this. I assumed that when Joel was arrested by the Federal Police in Australia, when he was arrested, he was arrested at a cafe while he was eating breakfast. And because it was just down the road from where his partner lives, I assumed that his partner was at the cafe with him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that wasn’t the case. He said to his girlfriend, who was due to give birth to their baby the next day, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Babe, I’m going to get breakfast. I’ll see you later!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he never came back! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> The day before his girlfriend was due. So she was probably sitting at home thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Has he ditched me? What the fuck?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The timing of that <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> was really ironic and funny. Like when he told the story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[23:40]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> I remember him getting arrested. I didn’t know it was a restaurant. I didn’t know where it was at. I just remember seeing him getting arrested, the picture. I wonder what he was eating that morning?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And I think even the cafe owner made a comment to the media, because the media rushed into the cafe, the breakfast cafe, and asked a bunch of questions and even asked:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What was he eating?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think he was eating smashed avocado on toast. That was his last meal. That was his last meal! But look like credit where credit’s due. The police actually went, Joel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Can you at least tell my girlfriend what’s happened? Because she’s going to think I just ran away!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> the police actually went and knocked on the door and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yo, just so you know, we arrested your boyfriend. That’s why he’s not coming home.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> It seemed like the media was there as he was arrested, which is kind of shady. They must have known about it or something. Or did they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t think so. I think the footage of him being arrested comes from police body cam footage. Okay, maybe. I think they all have cameras on their chests and these days it’s part of procedure to actually document high profile arrests and stuff like that. So I think that’s where that footage came from. And the media rushed there after the fact.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Fascinating. Okay, did he have any words of advice? Is he full of advice and knowledge now?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He’s definitely acknowledging that there’s a shift in what is going to be possible in Australian political discourse in the future. Okay, that’s probably the best advice. He hasn’t given any advice directly, but this is what I’m projecting to you guys as what I think is probably the best advice given the situation. Joel’s acknowledging pretty much openly that the stuff they were doing before, stuff him and the NSN were doing, the kind of activism they were doing, has essentially been made a “<em>hate crime</em>”. It’s illegal now to openly criticize the jewish community is basically illegal in Australia now. You can’t do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so you need to approach discourse in a way that appreciates that new reality. And Joel’s acknowledging that, everyone’s acknowledging that’s why the NSN has disbanded, to prevent their members from going to jail for 10 years for being a member of a hate group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that chapter of the NSN, the way it was, is done. And a new chapter in Australian political discourse is opening. But what that’s going to look like isn’t clear yet because the laws that have been imposed are so extreme, no one’s sure what’s going to be allowed and what’s not. And it’s going to come down to the whim of political bureaucrats.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Sounds like a bunch of bullshit, that’s for sure! Let me get to a Superchat because this one’s for you, actually:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Happy to hear of Joel’s release.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you White Bitch Triple Six. What a handle she has, eh? See what we’ve got here. Okay, up here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Happy to hear of his release. Hope him and his family, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Let me get this right here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hope him and his family are doing well despite these bogus charges. Wondering if Blair does one on one fitness consultations. I would pay for an hour of his fitness wisdom.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Actually, I think you have something going down that particular line. You’re lining up websites and stuff like that and that’s something you do know about, but go ahead.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, thanks for asking. I do provide. That’s what I do to support myself. And I think I’m pretty good at it. I can basically solve your problems in that regard. And I try to offer a lot more than most people do and I’m very pretty passionate about that. You’ll have to DM me on either Telegram or Instagram at the moment because I’m still setting up a more convenient way for contact. And that’s nearly finished.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you’re keen to get onto it straight away, just send me a DM on Telegram. It’s at Blair Cottrell. Just my full name. Or you can find me through my main channel, which is at Real Blair Cottrell. And that’s what I do. I help people burn fat and build muscle. I’ve been doing it a while.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> You can also email me White Bitch Triple six, since I know who you are and I will put up his information because I have all of it. I’ll send it back to you in an email if you didn’t get any of that or you need to know how to get a hold of him. I’ll try to hook you two up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, that’s what he does. But go ahead, finish.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s fine. I appreciate it, Tim. Cheers. That’s basically. There’s not a lot more to say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But before the show started, you were asking me about Ben Roberts Smith, the veteran who was recently arrested. That’s a big deal in Australia too, guys! Like this is like a huge deal! This guy Ben Robert Smith, if you don’t know, he’s like a 6 foot 7 chad, Special Forces SAS, Australian army veteran who in Afghanistan was basically responsible for rescuing his colleagues, which he was very good at doing. He’s known for storming significant numbers of enemy troops on his own and somehow winning! This guy’s like basically being hailed as a war hero ever since the war in Afghanistan. There’s certain situations where Australian troops were betrayed by members of the local army or police who offered to kill them in exchange for doing a deal with the Taliban at the time. And they were pinned down by enemy fire, they were betrayed, they were murdered in their sleep. And Ben Robert Smith was the guy who hunted those guys down to save any colleagues that had been captured or pinned down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:18]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> He was in some type of anti-terror squad?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think SAS is kind of like a Special Forces or like a more serious, &#8230; I don’t know exactly! Tom Sewell would be much better explaining.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> I can tell you what the problem was in Afghanistan is that there was a continuous issue on the rules of engagement, where someone could fire at you, throw a grenade at you, throw a bomb at you, or do something like that. Then they would make sure the village they were hiding in they would drop the gun, run back to the village. They would basically make sure that they were unarmed at all times because you couldn’t really do anything with an unarmed individual. It became like a police operation for a lot of different guys. But there was various different teams hunting these guys down. Yeah, playing these games. It was very nasty!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was. And that’s the thing. Basically the Australian army was in Afghanistan supposed to be hunting terrorists, terror networks, members of terror cell groups, but they basically had an arm tied behind their back and their feet bound at most cases. Like they couldn’t actually do their job properly because the rules of engagement kept changing. You just described it in a great way. They would like fire on Australian soldiers, then drop their rifles and act like they were just citizens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Well, this was a problem. This is a problem with my friends that were there from America. So no, this is what they were doing. They were feathering or floating the rules of engagement, terrorists were to make sure that:</p>
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<p>When they just basically killed one of their friends, you know, an hour for something like that they were constantly playing these games where they became a policing operation. You have to go in and fingerprint them and try to prove the crime. It was a fucking mess, it wasn’t a war, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Look the big drama is one of our war heroes from that time, from that era, from Afghanistan. The main one who became a bit of an icon was Ben Robert Smith. But there’s this huge, complex investigation that’s taken place behind the scenes, headed up by I think a combination of media and the Australian Federal Police, they’ve like sent people over to Afghanistan to try to get statements to use against their own soldiers. And the name Ben Robert Smith, that’s the one they kept targeting. There was a defamation case initially against media bureaucrats, specifically a journalist named Nick McKenzie who called Ben Robert Smith a war criminal without evidence. So Ben Robert Smith took him to court and said:</p>
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<p>But the courts ruled in the favor of the media and they said:</p>
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<p>So it’s like it basically just demonstrates that journalists can say whatever they want about anyone in Australia without any real basis. But now, a year or two after that finding, he’s actually been charged with five war crimes. With apparently either shooting people or commanding his comrades to shoot people who weren’t actually soldiers, weren’t Taliban or weren’t connected. That’s the accusation.</p>
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<p>But this is the thing, guys, whether he’s guilty or not isn’t really what matters. What matters is the ripple effect that this has on our sense of national pride, the trust our soldiers have in each other and in our government and military, the willingness to actually join the military and go fight for the country. All of that gets pole-axed. That gets steamrolled now by the fact that they can’t even feel confident to go and kill their enemies to do what they’re trying to do without being thrown in jail for life for it when they come back. Because that’s a war crime! That’s the kind of feeling that this is created.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah. When I first heard it, I thought it was like ICC. I thought it was going to be a big international deal. Then I looked and I’m like:</p>
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<p>This is like some kind of shitlib ordeal, where they actually put up billboards and had advertisements over in Afghanistan for testimony and stuff like that you know, they’re like drumming stuff up!</p>
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<p>It is somewhat unprecedented now, I assume, because a lot of these guys from my experience, aren’t necessarily on our side. In fact, the ones I know I would kind of consider assholes. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know, our societies are heavily degraded. These guys aren’t necessarily hugs and cupcakes or nice individuals. Many of them you could describe as Zogbots to a certain extent. “<em>Rah, rah</em>”, you know, patriots. But they would line us up against the wall as well if ordered by the government. What is his politics like? Is he being targeted for political reasons or is he targeted because he’s just a military icon and they’re trying to degrade a famous White military icon? You know what is the deal? Because he’s on their side.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like most soldiers he probably doesn’t have politics. And even if he does, it doesn’t matter! When you’re a soldier, you don’t have politics. You’re <span style="color: #008000;">[government]</span> property!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Right, true.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So that’s like the way I see it. Even if the charges aren’t political, they might as well be, as I explained just then, because they really have a dramatic negative impact on our sense of pride as Australians and our trust that our army members of the Australian Defence Force have in our government and each other. It just makes people not want to fight for this country and not want to take this government seriously.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> I didn’t mean to interrupt you, but in America that’s already happened long ago. So I’m taking it, this is like we’ve got upset veterans handing in medals. You guys have never had anything like this before where people are saying:</p>
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<p>This is like the next stage from Covid Covid was a big trust hammer in Australia. This is another thing that’s really putting the nail in the coffin, so to speak?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. Like you said, there’s been really good articles put out there by Noticer News, which is huge source of news. Really good source of news in Australia. Probably the best source we have down here in Australia. And they just did a story I think yesterday or the day before, and war veterans all over the country are handing in their medals in disgust that the government has gone after this guy just for following orders, for being one of our best soldiers.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.noticer.news/ben-roberts-smith-arrested-war-crimes/">https://www.noticer.news/ben-roberts-smith-arrested-war-crimes/</a></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> It is years after the fact and you’re putting up advertisement. It’s years after the fact. It’s not like you’re dealing with fresh off Afghanistan and ICC charge or some type of formal investigation. Formal charge that this guy was doing really shitty things or unbecoming of an officer, so on, so forth, etc.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Exactly! Why now? What’s the point of this?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah. Years after the fact doesn’t make any sense.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> When something like this happens to him, like who benefits? What is Australia getting out of hunting or targeting its own soldiers? For, like, historical war crimes that probably didn’t even happen. And even if they did, where, &#8230; Let me ask you this question. Where’s the Taliban? The government there that’s still in place now. Where are they charging their soldiers with war crimes?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> They don’t give a fuck!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Who are they investigating?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> They don’t have our standards. They don’t have our moral standards.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s what I’m saying, right? The Talibani government would never drag its own soldiers who did commit war crimes! There’s no doubt about it. It’s well documented. They’ll celebrate them as heroes! They’re doing the opposite. Right. So that just goes to show, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> We’ve always had a very high standard for soldiers and soldier behavior. This is just years after the fact. This is Australia advertising they wanted to do this. And they’re doing it inside of Australia. And it all just doesn’t. I mean, hey, maybe he’s a piece of shit, Zogbot? Maybe he said, “<em>kill all Nazis</em>”. Whatever. I don’t know anything about the guy. But he’s being, you know, railroaded, giving the White nationalist treatment, as what I call it, really. And it’s all inside of Australia, and they’re kind of like, okay, you know, he killed a guy and drank out of his prosthetic or something like that. Well, why are they waiting so long if he’s doing all these terrible things?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Exactly! It’s like, why now? Who benefits? What’s going on here? What’s the point? Is it really just bureaucratic procedure that took ages to roll around? And if that’s the case, it’s kind of female coded.</p>
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<p>Because if you’re fighting a war and you’re holding yourself to certain standards of war crimes where you can’t actually even kill your enemies when they’re there, but your enemy’s not doing that, well, it’s no wonder we didn’t win that war. Right? But what was even the point?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know. But there’s this thing going on right now that’s the new head of the AFP. I think her name’s, <span style="color: #008000;">[Krissy Barrett]</span> I can’t remember her name. That’s that woman.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> It’s obviously political. This is the thing. We’re in a heavily degraded society, as I always say, and it affects everyone. And there is a problem of behavior amongst a percentage of Whites, especially in charge, especially in positions of power.</p>
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<p>But there’s also a huge problem in this case of a White woman who obviously is targeting this guy, you know, would this be happening if it wasn’t for her? I don’t know. Seems like?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, there’s this weird shift. There’s all these new task forces that are being created in Australia, specifically within the Australian Federal Police. There’s like, Task Force Against Anti-semitism, a task force to Promote Social Cohesion by targeting racism.</p>
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<p>And all of that’s come about, Tim, in the last six to eight months. This is all really new stuff. So there’s these new like, it’s almost like the AFP was quietly overthrown. I mean, this is just speculation, but it was quietly overthrown.</p>
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<p>And now it’s in the hands of someone. I don’t know, someone with hostile intentions. Because it’s like it’s being turned into a political police. And it happened very suddenly. It’s weird! I can’t explain it at this stage. All I know is that Australia is changing rapidly! It’s targeting its own citizens, its own veterans, its own people, to the benefit of (((foreign lobby groups))), foreign nations often and historically hostile to Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, I saw one particular piece from the Daily Mail and the quotes were, &#8230; You know, they were analyzing, these particular departments and whatnot were analyzing all his tattoos. And he has a Christian cross tattoo, or we’re calling a crusader tattoo.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That was a patch. Yeah, he had a patch. This is Ben Roberts Smith, the soldier who’s been charged. There’s this famous photo of him which was allegedly taken immediately after he just charged in against superior numbers and rescued a bunch of his comrades under heavy fire.</p>
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<p>And as he’s walking away from that battle, he has a crusader knight’s cross patch, like a red Christian cross on a White shield. But the media in Australia edits the Christian cross out of the photo before they publish it in order not to offend Muslims or offend anyone who might not like that.</p>
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<p>I mean, that just goes to show where we’re at! If there’s that level of political censorship happening in media, then it’s not unreasonable to assume that he’s being targeted for political reasons. That’s why he’s been accused of war crimes.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah. They’re targeting Whites across the board, and he’s obviously a symbol and they’re going after him for that particular reason.</p>
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<p>I mean, there might be something legitimate. I’m not going to say that the guy’s perfect. I don’t know anything about him. He might be evil. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> There are some badass veterans in the US Army that I wouldn’t want to live near, that’s for sure. So you never know! We don’t know anything about him. But what I think is shitty is that if he’s doing something and it’s that over the top and there’s all these charges, why are they waiting so long, and why are they doing it with inside of Australia, like they’re doing it?</p>
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<p>So I don’t know. And putting advertisements, putting up advertisements?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s appeals to Afghanistanis, &#8230; There are more Afghanistanis living in Australia now, who have come from Afghanistan recently who have served in the army. Right. Because they have to over. There are more of them living here now than they, than the amount of Australian soldiers that were ever in Afghanistan.</p>
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<p>So it’s like we have this fifth column and what the government’s doing and the police, they’re putting out advertisements appealing to those people in Australia saying:</p>
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<p>So it’s mind boggling! It’s like, how is this real? How is this happening?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> This is within the military, the confines of the military justice system of Australia. Correct? Or is it outside of the bounds of that? Because they have these laws on the books, war crime laws on the books and I don’t even know how old they are. Australia has these laws on the books that they can go after soldiers for war crimes regardless of the international law or anything like that it’s just kind of like internal to Australia. Now there’s always been a court martialing and stuff like that in America and behavior unbecoming of an officer and so on and so forth, et cetera. We have a military court of law here, but I don’t understand how it’s going over into civilian. I guess I don’t really know Australian courts.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s definitely an Australia internal thing, because it’s the Australian Federal Police that are leading the investigation. But they’re not really confined to the borders of Australia geographically. Like I said, they’ll send cops and investigators over to Afghanistan to get information from former Taliban fighters about Australian soldiers so they can go home and prosecute their own soldiers. I just think we need, regardless of this guy made some mistakes. I don’t care! This guy went to fight a war in another country against the enemy. That’s what he’s trained to do! And we need to stand with our own, even if they do make mistakes sometimes. It was easy to make mistakes in an environment where your enemy isn’t abiding by any specific rules of engagement. I’m not even saying he did make mistakes. I don’t know. I wasn’t there. The cops certainly weren’t there.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> Yeah, I’m not interested in trusting the advice of Afghanis that you’re soliciting, that are known liars, that they’re soliciting advice from. We have to see the evidence. But I just don’t like the way they’re doing this years after the fact. If he’s that much of a bad apple as they’re suggesting, you should have easily done something when he committed these acts because supposedly this is like known stuff and he’s a bad actor and he’s this big asshole and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Why are you waiting so long? And why are they having to solicit anything? Shouldn’t you have collected evidence right then and court martialed him or whatever? That’s normally what happens.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Exactly! But look, guys, this is just what we’re going through down here in Australia.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry to check out early, but my phone’s about to die. I’m just gonna give you guys the warning before it does. And like, look, we did kind of like a spontaneous drive up to visit Joel and have dinner with him last night. And so that’s why I’m like in disarray. I’d usually go sit with you guys for a bit longer. Yeah, thanks, Tim, for having me on. And thanks for the questions. Maybe in a couple of weeks or whenever you’re free again, we could say may, I could see up Tom Sewell. He could come on and he, Tom Sewell would be excellent at explaining the Ben Robert Smith Australian army situation because he spent a couple of years in battalion as a soldier. He has much more inside knowledge about how things really work.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Murdoch:</strong> What blew me away is they’re doing this outside of the military, &#8230; Well, I don’t know how Australian military works, but they’re doing it, &#8230; I mean this is something that happened in a war, but they’re doing it outside military court of law, which I think is pretty crazy! But and they have their own little war crime, their own little war crime ordeal.</p>
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<p>But anyways, I appreciate it, Blair, for coming on and being a good sport. Guys, I’m going to let’s see what I’m going to do here. Hang out here a couple minutes and look what’s going on in the chat. I thought he’d be on a couple hours obviously, but his phone ran out and what are you going to do when your phone runs out?</p>
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<p>But this case is one to watch. It’s definitely a political trial. We’ll have to see what evidence there is and why they waited so long. It all stinks to me. But we do appreciate Blair coming on. His phone ran out and he had the wrong cord.</p>
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<p>Let me see what you guys are saying here. Yeah, it sounds like Joel’s doing quite well. He’s doing okay. Bo Nilson, thank you very much for the sub. But I’ll stay around a couple minutes. Let me cruise around and see what’s going on and then I’ll let you guys go. And for the weekend I’ll be back on Sunday. Yeah, I’ll get those guys on again soon. I’ll get Tom Sewell on again. I have on Warren Balogh but I’ll try to get on Tom Sewell or I’m trying to think of who else. You know, Tom I think was in the military. So.</p>
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<p>But anyways, I appreciate you guys tuning in and supporting the show. I will be back Sunday. I was planning on doing a two hour show with Blair but nonetheless these things do happen. We do appreciate him being a good sport and coming on for 45 minutes. I was hoping he’d make it on at least an hour but he got close. But I do appreciate it guys and I guess I’m going to go ahead and let you guys go. You guys have a wonderful Friday evening and Saturday and I’ll be back on Sunday same time, same place, about 5:30 PM. Need we’ll talk about everything going on. I know they’re meeting with, &#8230; Let’s go over to Drudge. What’s up? Crafty Booms. I know they’re meeting on, &#8230; Trump’s vowing complete decimation of Iran. They’re meeting with Iran tomorrow in Pakistan.</p>
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<p>Okay, so get this. They’re meeting with Iran in Pakistan and Did Do Nothing Replay, bro:</p>
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<p>Well, thank you for support. We got Crafty Booms. Thank you 14 for the 88. I do appreciate it. I appreciate you guys generosity.</p>
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<p>But this whole entire Iran situation is not over with. It’s not over with. It might die down for a bit. But why Pakistan? Pakistan arranged the meeting. There’s a few different theories on it. They’re a Muslim country. It’s kind of like they’re not in the war and they arranged the ceasefire. Or maybe Trump, through a back channel, had it. I think what they’re trying to do is stall for a period of time to build up enough forces to try another angle. They’re not going to be happy, they being Israel, is not going to be happy until the IRGC, the current regime in Iran, is gone.</p>
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<p>So they’re going to keep going at it, and they’re going to obviously stall by time, until they can degrade that regime enough and kill enough of them. What they keep doing, obviously, is killing the elites they’re meeting with. So really, how are you going to meet with them anywhere if you’re killing them other than a situation like this? I mean, Pakistan escorted the jet from Pakistan, when it flew into Pakistan’s airspace. The jet containing the Iranian dignitaries and Iranian authorities, negotiating authorities in Pakistan.</p>
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<p>I mean, the Israelis just keep on killing. And so Israel is supposed to be backing down in Lebanon, but of course, Israel let loose, what, 100 bombs in 10 minutes, dropped 100 bombs, missiles in 10 minutes and totally destroyed Lebanon. It’s just insanity! So Pakistan was a neutral player and they’re trying to, &#8230; There’s probably more explanation than that. But the Iranians can’t go just anywhere and meet just anywhere. They just can’t. Because everywhere they pop up, the Israelis kill them.</p>
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<p>So, I think what Trump wants to do is build up a force to break them another way or maybe take oil or do something. He’s pulling something! The Iranians so far haven’t trusted anything, though. They don’t trust the Americans at all! Let’s see what Field Marshall has to say:</p>
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<p>Thank you very much, Field Marshal. I do appreciate it. And when Joel can come on, he’ll be on, that’s for sure. I guess he has to get back on Telegram first and get these cases over with. We’ll see.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I don’t know. There’s like a long explanation on why they did Pakistan and there’s a few conspiracies about it. But the Iranians. Who are you going to trust if you’re Iranian? So now the negotiating team. The negotiating team is JD Vance and it’s Trump’s son-in-law and it’s the main negotiator. Hold on here.</p>
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<p>Okay. Daily Signal:</p>
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<p>Yeah, we’ve got like four or five guys in the negotiating team. See here, Steve Witkoff. Yeah. Jared Kushner. They’re both going to be there with J.D. Vance.</p>
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<p>But there’s a fourth as well. I want to say maybe it’s Ambassador to Pakistan. Pakistan has four dignitaries there. Pakistan sets modest goal. Let’s look at Al Jazeera:</p>
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<p>They want to keep conversations going. The problem with this particular war so far, one of the reasons that I think the English speaking world elite and sections of Europe really don’t give a shit is that it hurts the BRICS. It really hurts the developing countries. That has become very clear. The developing countries, the BRICS countries are being hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which is kind of an interesting thing because Trump doesn’t like the BRICS countries.</p>
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<p>But one of the side effects is they are hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and only 15 tankers a day can get through. So the whole entire situation actually hurts the BRICS countries, which I find intriguing. They’re the ones suffering the most.</p>
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<p>And so that’s probably one of the reasons behind it as well. Pakistan, developing countries. You know, these guys are all like:</p>
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<p>The Iranians, supposedly, what they’re saying is they’ve come a long ways in agreeing to various different things, supposedly, but I don’t know. Well, Iran doesn’t want to look like a bad guy internationally. They don’t want to play into the bad guy role. They’re not the aggressor. They’re defending their country, they’re defending their homeland. If Pakistan <span style="color: #008000;">[Iran]</span> would have shut down the Strait of Hormuz any other time, all hell would have broke loose. The whole entire international community would have came down on Iran and probably removed them somehow some way. But because of the way it happened, No one could really blame Iran. The blame would go to Israel, against Israel in the United States.</p>
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<p>And Iran has the upper hand and they don’t want to lose that, which is very clever of them. They basically have been playing it very well. They’ve been doing a bang up job in handling themselves so far. I don’t think they’re going to make any mistakes. But they’re going to have to be ready to fight to the death, there’s no doubt about that. Because they’re not going to be happy until they get they get the particular uranium. They don’t want them to have nukes. And Trump wants to send them back to the Stone Age. He’s saying that again. He vows complete decimation and ceasefire warning to Tehran.</p>
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<p>Now I am guessing he’s saying a lot of this shit just to get them to the table because this is hurting the American economy. But I do know in the back of everyone’s head these guys at the top don’t like the BRICs and they want a way to harm the BRICs. Having the Strait of Hormuz shut down harms the BRICS countries, more than anyone else. You know, the Chinese are prepared, the US is prepared more than most. Europe’s got issues, but the BRICS really has issues, that’s for damn sure!</p>
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<p>But anyways guys, I’ll be back on Sunday. We’ll talk about it more, 5:30 PM. Thanks you guys for tuning in and I’ll get Blair back on when he can bullshit for a couple hours. White Bitch Triple Six get a hold of me via email if you need Blair’s contact information and he can hook you up with a fitness consulting. That’s what he does. And he’s very good at it.</p>
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<p>But anyways, cheers guys and thanks for tuning in and supporting the show, as well as all the support out there.</p>
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<p>MountainMan1847<br />
1 day ago<br />
Australia for the white man o/ Heil to my Aussie brothers<br />
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xSTRAWMANx<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Ken oath mate<br />
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<p>traceywilliams<br />
1 day ago<br />
Would’ve loved to hear Blair finish a sentence.<br />
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LiftWaffen<br />
18 hours ago<br />
He is really great at interrupting!</p>
<p>Tristan_Blixt<br />
21 hours ago<br />
you need to listen more and talk less. let blair do the talking<br />
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timmurdock<br />
VerifiedAdminSupporter<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I had lots of questions and only an hour to get them in. Cut me a break or get your own show.<br />
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<p>Correctifier<br />
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1 day ago<br />
Wotan bless me Aussie mates!<br />
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<p>TheWhitenessoftheWhale<br />
1 day ago<br />
Do they want to humiliate SAS?<br />
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<p>renunciate<br />
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22 hours ago<br />
Ben R Smith is a war hero. His treatment is intentional demoralization.<br />
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<p>BradC1988<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Its great to hear Joel Davis has been released on bail and that he hasn&#8217;t changed a bit! Hail White Australia! o/<br />
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22 hours ago<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="G. Edward Griffin on Communist smear tactics" width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XfsJxkobPXk?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>KingTut999<br />
1 hour ago<br />
after Joel got released his Go, Send, Go or whatever fundraiser link got nuked. so not sure what happened exactly.</p>
<p>Spaceman69<br />
1 day ago<br />
ben robert smith is being crucified by hes OWN CREW testifying against him because he cross some big lines and deserves all that he is getting. rules of engagement brothaaaaaa. you aint above the law big fellow. imagine how bad things were your own crew ratted you out, and rightly so!!! dont take my word for it, go read the court transcripts for yourself or watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J896i3yrTbQ&amp;t=2s come at me nazis, this is the only place you can exercise your racism these days&#8230;. prove me right. prove the hate speech laws right!<br />
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renunciate<br />
Supporter+<br />
22 hours ago<br />
You couldn’t resist squawking buzzwords, could you? “Nazi” “racist”. Both propaganda terms used by communist agitators. Label someone with a negative name to justify persecuting them. GFY.<br />
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Spaceman69<br />
15 hours ago<br />
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are we pretending like joel davis was not a self proclaimed racist nazi LEADER? blaire use to be as well till he got kicked out cause hes missus cucked him with another member of NSN, so he chased the guy down with toma hawks then burned the guys house down- hence went to max security prison.. ohh boy, ya cant make this shat up.. hey whitey.. feel free to white wash the information to your liking&#8230; but now its the age of the internet&#8230;. that hitler brain wash bullshat aint gonna float. the truth is out there. the internet never forgets<br />
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BradC1988<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Shut the fuck up retard LOL<br />
Spaceman69<br />
1 day ago<br />
blair sounds funny. like he forgot to take meds or sumthin. joels arrest, that racists try to white wash is that the female politician he had hes nazi possy harass AKA &#8220;rhetorically rape&#8221;, well she ended up quitting her job and moving house for her families safety because of the degree of online treats and harassment she received. i imagine she also took out intervention order against him and hes nazi friends. so yeah its kinda serious!!! you cannot threaten people like that even &#8220;rhetorically&#8221; especially a politician. thanks to NSN nazis and racists, Australia has passed laws against hate speech. basically it is now ILLEGAL to be racist in Australia. which i think is freaking awesome! an example to the world. these dumb nazis seem to think their freedom of speech includes insulting people to their hearts desires on the daily! like a aussie magistrate has said, people have the right to go about their daily lives without being subjected to your vile hate filled racism. on behalf of immigrants here in aus, thank you nazis for making racism illegal!!! we couldn&#8217;t have done it without ya&#8230; now we sit back eat pop corn and watch the overwhelming avalanche of court cases these racist dickheads are about to face.. they make for a perfect example of why these laws are necessary. nazi racism destroys common sense!<br />
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bthor29<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Are you referencing the multi million dollar mansion she inherited then spent $800k renovating using her political influence to assist with council approval?<br />
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Spaceman69<br />
15 hours ago<br />
completely unrelated. next you&#8217;ll be talking about affairs and sex scandals&#8230; are you trying to justify rhetorically raping her with threats and harassment?!? because she had an opinion about NSN?<br />
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BradC1988<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Joel&#8217;s comments were totally justified, retard. However, your presence in a White country has no justification. You and the rest of the unwelcome brown/black hordes contribute nothing but crime to the host country.<br />
BradC1988<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Again, shut the fuck up you antiWhite piece of shit. Also, you will be going home to your shitty country. Its only a matter of time, shitskin! LOL<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video Dean McIntosh talks with Mark Collett, leader of the Britsish ethno-nationatist group Patriotic Alternative. The following points are made:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark says that he is an ethno-nationalist in contrast to being an Civic-nationalist: He is “English, proud to be English,” and wants the UK run “by the indigenous people for the benefit of the indigenous people.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Demographic goal: Advocates keeping White Britons as a “super majority,” opposing becoming a minority.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Target composition: He and allies have “always” aimed for “around 95% White British.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Vibe shift”: Ideas he was once punished for are now echoed by sitting MPs like Rupert Lowe; calls it “a massive vibe shift.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Past in BNP: Recalls BNP’s peak (circa 14.5k members; 2 MEPs) and contrasts with today’s larger right-populist interest.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Remigration framework: Supports re-migration—“millions should go”—but stresses a phased, “sensible” and “lawful” approach, not overnight mass expulsions.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Three groups of non-indigenous people: (1) illegal migrants/visa overstayers; (2) legal residents without citizenship; (3) naturalised citizens who are non-indigenous.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Group 1 (illegal) policy: Immediate deportation of illegal entrants and overstayers.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Group 2 (non-citizen legal residents): Non-renewal of visas, removal of benefits for those out of work, deportation of lawbreakers.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Citizenship policy: End birthright citizenship; children born in UK would not automatically gain right to remain.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Group 3 (non-indigenous citizens): Offer grants to leave; change service policies to “treat everyone with a British passport equally” (e.g., no free interpreters if not English-speaking).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cultural/animal-welfare restrictions: Says he would ban “full face coverings” in public and prohibit kosher/halal slaughter and such imports.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Dual nationals: Would strip UK citizenship from dual nationals convicted of serious crimes; frames as compatible with international law.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Benefits policy: Reverse policies (e.g., two-child cap lift) he says indirectly incentivise higher-birthrate migrant groups.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Timeline: Predicts 5–10 years could “drastically” reverse demographics under his policies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">End-state vision: About 5% of residents non-White-British, mainly fellow Europeans and some mixed-heritage individuals; maintain a stable super-majority.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Division and responsibility: Rejects claim his ideas cause hostility, arguing mass immigration created divisions; previously, UK division was mostly “football/rugby rivalry.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Sectarian conflicts: Argues imported intra-ethnic/religious rivalries (e.g., Hindu–Muslim, Shia–Sunni, black gang rivalries) increase conflict.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Patriotic Alternative: Describes PA as a “community building organisation” focused on “community, advocacy and activism,” not an electoral party.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Registration blocked: Electoral Commission repeatedly blocked PA; they then worked with English Democrats for 2024.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Farage effect: Claims Nigel Farage’s return “eclipsed” micro-parties; PA avoids electoral route to focus on movement-building.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Activities: Socials, camps, fitness events; prisoner support; street activism and protests (e.g., Warwick; planned Nuneaton on March 28).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Coalition openness: Will work with other nationalist groups under a code of conduct (mentions Steve Laws, National Front, White Vanguard, British Democrats, David Clews/Unity News Network, Woodlander).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Non-electoral freedom: Says avoiding elections let’s them back initiatives without selling them to the general public.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speech policing: Argues hate-crime laws and social sanctions have chilled free speech, creating fear and resentment.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cultural critique: Critical of Pride displays/sexualisation and says “tolerance is not a virtue, it’s a sickness,” it harms families/children.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel–UK “double standard”: Calls it the “greatest hypocrisy of our time” that a jewish ethno-state is supported while an English ethno-state is condemned.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Disproportionate jewish influence in UK/media/policy; contrasts support for Israel’s borders with advocacy of UK openness.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel’s actions and Western support fuel Middle East instability, producing refugee flows to Europe; opposes UK involvement.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Platforming and sanctions: Collett’s been banned from X, “de-banked,” and travel-banned across much of Europe/North America for discussing “demography” and “who controls Britain.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Critics on the Right: Attacks prominent right figures (e.g., Tommy Robinson) as pro-Israel and supportive of more migrants from some countries; contrasts them with his ethno-nationalist stance.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Melting pot” critique: References ideas akin to the Kalergi Plan; argues ethnocentrism yields group power, while Western individualism fragments society.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Social trends: Blames feminism, pornography, academia, and media for undermining family cohesion and promoting anti-White narratives.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">If Collett “PM tomorrow”:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Stop immigration,” implement re-migration, repeal hate-speech laws, reject digital ID/facial recognition, restore robust free speech and jury trials, pro-family/heritage curriculum, and build a high-trust English ethno-state; extend same ethno-self-determination principle to all nations:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Good fences make good neighbours.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Hello there, guys. At the risk of sounding like every other YouTuber out there, I’d really appreciate it if you’d click the subscribe button. It’s free, it doesn’t cost you anything and it allows my channel to grow, which means guests like the one you’re about to watch, as well as more, would be willing to come on! Just give it a like, give it a subscribe and we’ll go from there.</p>
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<p>So today on Laments, I’ve got Mr. Mark Collett. Mark, how are you doing?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello, my friend. It’s good to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me on. I’m looking forward to having a decent chat with you.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> No, no, thank you.</p>
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<p>Now, for those that don’t know who you are, if they were to Google you get some quite derogatory terms come up. People call you, I saw “<em>Hitler Simp</em>” when I was doing my research. I think simping is something to do with OnlyFans girls. I don’t know, I’m a bit old for all that shit! The neo-Nazi, Nazi. How would you describe yourself?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I describe myself as an ethno-nationalist. I’ve always described myself as a nationalist.</p>
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<p>But now there seems to be sort of two camps. You have the sort of civic nationalists and you have the ethno-nationalists. I’m an ethno-nationalist. I am English, I’m proud to be English. And I believe that White Britons, i.e., the English, the Scottish and the Welsh, they deserve a homeland just like any other ethnic group. And my belief is basically that we as a people need to turn around the demographic changes taking place, because I don’t want White Britons to become a minority.</p>
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<p>And secondly, I want to ensure that Britain is run by the indigenous people for the benefit of the indigenous people. So I want us to remain a super majority in our homeland and I also want our homeland to be run for our benefit rather than for the benefit of people who are foreign or for the benefit of foreign countries.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> You know what, I’m not going to lie. That sounds like it’s right out of the playbook of Restore Britain. Do you know Rupert Lowe?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I mean, Rupert Lowe is now talking my talking points, because I’ve been doing this since 2000. I’m now 45. I’ve been doing this for 26 years. I first got involved in this when I was at university. And it’s very interesting to see that the things that I was de-platformed from X, for the things that I’ve had my bank accounts taken away for, the reasons I’ve been banned from any form of foreign travel are essentially now the policy points of people like Rupert Lowe.</p>
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<p>So the things that I face such repression for over my lifetime are now the talking points of a sitting MP. And it tells you that there is a massive vibe shift at the moment. What we’re seeing is this unprecedented political change where people are talking about things that at one point were seen as highly taboo. And it was quite a taboo thing.</p>
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<p>And as I said, I have suffered sort of quite heavily because of my political beliefs. I’ve been doing this, I’ve been consistent in doing this for the past, 26 years.</p>
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<p>But now these things are breaking into the mainstream. They are being spoken about in Parliament, and obviously Rupert Lowe’s now got 100,000 members who obviously agree with these talking points, which is incredible because obviously I was in the British National Party at the height it had 14 and a half thousand members. We got two MEPs elected to Brussels, but it was nowhere near on the size and scale of what Rupert Lowe’s doing. Now that doesn’t necessarily mean Rupert Lowe’s gonna win a general election, but what it does mean is that there has been a huge change in the way people think and people’s willingness to talk about race, ethnicity and demography.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> It’s interesting you mentioned that, actually. I had one of your compatriots or previous compatriots, Nick Griffin on a few months ago. And it gives you the vibe shift, as you mention it. I think that scored 10,000 views at my last check and I had lots of people saying:</p>
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<p>I got a lot of abuse for it as well. And I thought:</p>
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<p>Which is why we’re having this conversation as well. I don’t go by other people tell me, as you’ve probably seen, Mark, you’ve seen my channel. I go by going to the source, go to the horse’s mouth sort of situation.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, you were part of the BNP, which is why I think you get slated as much as you do. Obviously, as we’ve just said, these conversations around race and ethnicity are now breaking through. You’ve got Rupert Lowe, not sort of spearheading that, but he’s definitely picked up the baton and is running with it. His party is doing very well. It’s interesting, really. He talks about re-migration a lot. He talks about millions must go. I know you know Steve Laws and he’s a big fan of or big, big promoter of re-migration. What’s your view of that? Do you think that we should get rid of everyone that isn’t English?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I do believe that millions should go, but I have or both myself and the people I work with have always said we would like Britain to be around 95% White British.</p>
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<p>And if you stated that as a point, I think that’s something that most people who are reasonable could agree with. We’re not saying that every single person who’s got a tiny drop of foreign blood must go, but lots of them do have to go. And we have to bring about a situation where the indigenous people, these islands, are a super majority and a stable super majority.</p>
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<p>So we don’t want to say 95%. Then in five years it’s 90%, then in another five years it’s 85%. We don’t want to go back down that road. So it would have to be a figure where the indigenous people were an overwhelming majority and that majority was maintained.</p>
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<p>Now when we’re starting to talk about people being sort of sent home or expelled or remigrated or repatriated, as we used to call it in the BNP, you know, we’ve got to talk about this sensibly. There are 21 million people here in Britain today who are not White British, who are not indigenous or have some kind of mixed race heritage.</p>
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<p>Now if we were going down the route of mass re-migration or repatriation as we used to call it, there is a sensible way of approaching this. And we’re not talking about putting 21 million people on boats in a single year and getting rid of them. There would be a system of doing this which would be sensible. It would be, it would obviously take people’s needs into account.</p>
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<p>So the first people you would send back would be illegal migrants. Because really there are three types of people in this country who are not indigenous. There are people who shouldn’t be here because they’re illegal migrants.</p>
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<p>So you’ve got the illegal migrants, you’ve got Visa overstayers, you’ve got people who have no legal right to be here.</p>
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<p>Then you’ve got people who’ve got a legal right to be here but are not British citizens. They are people who are citizens of other countries that have gained residency here, work permits, visas. They might be studying. They’re here, but they’re not actually British citizens. Then finally you have the third group, which are people who are here and are not indigenous to these islands, and they have British citizenship.</p>
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<p>Now, they’re not indigenous, but they have a passport. They have attained citizenship.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Now, obviously, if you were to bring in, look, if somebody gave you sort of like Marvel superhero powers and you were sort of Thanos and you could just snap your fingers and these people all disappeared, that would be all well and good, but that’s not how it works in the real world. And there’s a lot of people who say, like:</p>
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<p>But you have to put forward a policy that would actually work. And you have to realise that you couldn’t do this overnight. It couldn’t be done with the snap of your fingers. So you deal with the first group first. And the first group were illegal immigrants.</p>
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<p>Now, day one, they would all have to go. You would have to start rounding them up, and you would have to start deporting them. They are here illegally. They have no right whatsoever to be here. And they have come here, and by the mechanism of coming here, they have broken our laws. And we do not want criminal migrants here. I think that’s a fair point.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Anybody who is here that has broken the law to be here and has broke, whether you are a visa overstayer, whether you are somebody who has entered on a small boat, whether you are somebody that has Stowed away in on a plane or in a lorry on the Channel Tunnel, makes no difference. If you are here illegally and you have broken our laws to enter this country, you go immediately! So you would deal with the first group with a stroke of a pen.</p>
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<p>Now, the second group are people who are here legally but do not have right to remain because they’re not British citizens. So they do not have a passport. You would deal with them rather swiftly as well. You would wait until any work visas ran out. You would not reissue them. Any of those people who were here and were not British citizens and that were out of work claiming benefits, they would have to go. You know, why on earth we have people here in Britain who are not British citizens, but they are claiming benefits? I don’t know.</p>
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<p>I mean, I don’t think you or I would be able to turn up in Japan or Nigeria or India and immediately be able to just go to some government office and start getting free money. So you would then ship them out.</p>
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<p>Then you would look at people who were here through the Visa scheme or here through some temporary measure who had broken the law. Now, anybody that comes into our house and violates our laws and breaks the laws, they will be leaving.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s a sensible policy as well. And over time, you would drastically reduce the number of foreign nationals living in Britain, starting aggressively with lawbreakers and people who were claiming benefits.</p>
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<p>And eventually, over a period of time, people would run down their visas. Those visas wouldn’t be reissued, the foreign nationals would leave. And you would make sure there was no birthright citizenship. So even if they had children on British soil, that doesn’t give you the right to remain. And I know that America has gone down that route recently. Donald Trump has attempting to abolish birthright citizenship because people have these, what are known as anchor babies, which allow them to stay. And that would leave you with the third group.</p>
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<p>So the first two groups, the illegal immigrants and those here legally who are foreign nationals, you would deal with those two groups extremely quickly, and those problems would be solved. And that would leave you with people living here who are not indigenous and who have British passports, essentially British citizens, but not natives.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[11:24]</span></p>
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<p>Now, they would be dealt with in a number of ways. We could offer them reasonable grants to leave, and at the same time we could pass laws that essentially bring about something that the government keeps crowing about the government always talks about equality, doesn’t it? We always hear about the importance of equality:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve all got to be equal, we’ve all got to be treated equally under the law.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, no one gives me 150 pound an hour interpreter to go to the council office. So we’ll treat everyone with a British passport equally. And if they don’t speak English, they’re not entitled to benefits. If their children don’t speak English, they’re not entitled to go into the educational system, they’re not entitled to state education. If you don’t speak English, you are not entitled to an interpreter in hospitals because all of these things are inequalities which put White Britons at a disadvantage. We pay for these things, but we don’t get these benefits. And that overnight would begin to incentivise people with British passports to take the grants to leave.</p>
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<p>We would ban full face coverings in public. We would ban kosher and halal slaughter and the importation of meat that was slaughtered in a cruel manner. And overnight you would see millions choosing to go home.</p>
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<p>And we would also look at people who had British citizenship but also had citizenship of other nations. So if there was a Jamaican man, let’s say, and he had both British and Jamaican citizenship and he had raped someone, he would have his British citizenship stripped. And that would be completely legal under international law, because any nation can strip a citizen of their citizenship if they have citizenship of another nation where there is a grey zone under international law. Not that I’m a big fan of international law, but this actually does abide by. It is if you strip somebody of citizenship and they don’t have citizenship of another nation. So you couldn’t strip somebody of British citizenship if they didn’t have a dual citizenship and couldn’t go anywhere else. But there are many people living in Britain who have a British passport but are dual citizens. And dual citizens that have broken the law, committed benefit fraud, have never worked, don’t speak English, they could have their citizenship stripped.</p>
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<p>And over time, what you would end up with, it might take five years, it might take a decade, I don’t think it’d take much longer. But you would see a dramatic turnaround when it came to demographics. It would create a hostile environment for illegal migrants. It would more or less cut immigration to zero. And you would see a massive number of people leaving. And over five to 10 years, the demographic shifts would be drastically reversed! And you would also stop paying the people who are here and aren’t indigenous to have children.</p>
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<p>I’ll give you a great example. Labour lifted the benefit, the two child benefit cap. Well, which three ethnic groups in Britain have the largest family size on average? I can tell you straight off the top of my head and list them in order.</p>
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<p>Number one, Pakistanis, number two, Bangladeshis, number three, Indians. So people who come here from the Indian subcontinent have by far the highest birth rate and the largest family size. Labour are currently paying them to breed by lifting that benefit cap. By lifting that benefit cap, Labour are putting in place a form of indirect discrimination that pays certain migrant communities to have children. There would also be policy reversals like that again, that would see thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions leave simply because that policy was reversed.</p>
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<p>And once you’ve done that, you would end up with a small number of people here, 5%, who were not White British. They would be fellow Europeans. There would be a limited number of people of mixed race origin who were half English and say half something else, because they can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, look, I do have partial English heritage or part Scottish heritage.”</span></h3>
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<p>Whatever, but it would be a manageable number that was maintained and did not start to creep above that 5% threshold. And then it wouldn’t be discriminating against people like a man who, say, has a Polish wife or, somebody who was of mixed European origin, but their family had lived here for sort of 50, 60 years. And I think that would be fair. I think most people would accept that the idea of sending people home doesn’t have to be one of people marching down the street in uniforms, pulling people out of their houses and loading them into sort of lorries at the point of a bayonet. Sensible policy change would turn this around.</p>
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<p>And if you extend that, an extension of that, is once you understand that sensible policy change could turn this around, you understand that it is policy change, bad policy, that has brought us to this point. A mixture of horrendous government policy which has created both push and pull factors, has incentivised millions of people from overseas to come to these islands because we treat them as first class citizens and we treat the indigenous people at best as Second Class and at worst a hated minority that are preyed upon by the people who arrive here!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> It does seem everything you’ve just said sounds like it could have come from Restore or Advance Britain. It really does. And like you say, it has crept into the discourse. Yet, what, five, ten years ago you were vilified for these views. Now you’re no longer part of BNP. I don’t think Nick Griffin’s part of it anymore. Do you know Simon Tomlin?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You might want to cut this bit out, but Simon Tomlin, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> I don’t edit anything. I do not edit anything.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, Simon Tomlin’s a strange guy that has all these fanciful stories of, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Of what he’s done and where he’s been. He’s written all these sort of strange books. Some that claim he’s an MI5 spy, some that claims he was on the run from MI5. He has these fanciful stories that he was this big player in the British National Party. He wasn’t!</p>
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<p>In fact, he’s kind of a strange guy. You can look up his criminal history. He was arrested and actually jailed for stalking and harassment of a woman who was in the wider nationalist movement. This can all be found quite easily. He’s not somebody that’s a fan of me. He’s really a Walter Mitty that makes a lot of things up.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> The reason I ask is obviously he’s got his own podcast. I’m not name dropping anything, but it’s The Daily Agenda, obviously, I’ve seen it. He has mentioned you. I just wanted to know your side.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> He mentions everyone. He’s one of these people who is endlessly embroiled in a series of beefs with different people. So he rages about me, he rages about Steve Laws, he rages about Tommy Robinson, he rages about Nigel Farage, he rages about Rupert Lowe, rages about Nick Griffin.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not saying all those people like one another. And some of those people don’t. You know, I like Rupert Lowe, I like Steve Laws, I don’t like Tommy Robinson. But he doesn’t like anyone.</p>
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<p>And if you look into him, you’ll find out that he is a Walter Mitty that lives in sort of this little pocket universe of his own creation. He’s written a load of these really strange books. One of his books claims he has magical powers or something like that. He’s a very strange guy. All of this is on the Internet. You can Google it if you just put in sort of “<em>Simon Tomlin, Eastwood Advertiser</em>”, it comes up with his attempts to sort of get the Eastwood Advertiser to remove headlines about him which relate to his stalking and harassment, which he was jailed for. You know, this guy is not a nice guy. He’s not a good guy. He’s a very strange guy that makes up that he’s had this big sort of impactful career in nationalism. He hasn’t. I never met him when I was in the BNP. He never did anything of note when I was in the BNP, he might have been a member briefly, and he’s fallen out with everybody that you could imagine.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, he’s not a big fan of me, but he’s not a big fan of anyone.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> No, no, that’s fair enough.</p>
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<p>Now, moving on from the BNP, we talked about Re-migration Now, and Steve Laws. How well is Patriotic Alternative doing? That’s your party, isn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s not a party. We are a community building organisation. We believe in three things, community, advocacy and activism.</p>
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<p>Now, we attempted to be registered as a political party. The Electoral Commission blocked us numerous times for ridiculous reasons. And we eventually, when Nigel Farage came back into politics. Well, when Nigel Farage came back into politics, we were still trying to become registered as a political party and we weren’t allowed to.</p>
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<p>So we had an agreement with the English Democrats. We gave them our people who wanted to stand as candidates. We gave them our activists in order to leaflet for them. And we worked with Steve Laws and the English Democrats to field a number of candidates at the general election. Almost as soon as we announced that Nigel Farage came back into politics. This was 2024 at the General election. And at that point it was over before it even started. Nigel Farage is one of those people who is a political juggernaut and his involvement in British politics carries so much weight that the previous Reform Party conference, when it was being run by Richard Tice, had around 300 people present. When Nigel Farage got back involved they were filling the Birmingham MNC, you know, one of the conference centres, the Birmingham MNC. Nigel Farage is such an influential and successful man that if you are going to take on populist Right-wing politics when he is active, you are going to be carving out a tiny, an almost, I can call it embarrassing, really, an embarrassing number of votes. You have this niche because he’s going to take everything else.</p>
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<p>So at that point, we stopped applying to the Electoral Commission. We said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let them get on with politics, let them get on with this battle for Westminster, and we will do what we do best.”</span></h3>
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<p>And what we do best is community building, advocacy and activism.</p>
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<p>And what I mean by those three things is community building is we hold meetings with, we hold social events, we hold camps, fitness events, and we build an ethno-nationalist community. We carry out advocacy. Advocacy is where we fight for the rights of our people. We raise money for political prisoners, we write to the Prison Service and advocate for the rights of political prisoners. And we take up cases on behalf of people who are of our ethnic group who need our help. So we advocate for the good of our people, for the rights of our people.</p>
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<p>And the final part is activism. We also go out on the streets. We’re part of the protest movement. We were recently at the large protest in Warwick and we are going to be holding another one of those protests in Nuneaton at the end of this month on the 28th of March.</p>
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<p>So if you, if any of your viewers would like to attend that, we would absolutely welcome them. I am doing that in conjunction with Steve Laws. There was also the National Front there was also White Vanguard, there was also the British Democrats. Other groups who want to attend are welcome to attend as long as they stick to our code of conduct and agree to behave in a reasonable fashion. Numerous speakers spoke there, myself, Laura Towler, Hugh Anthony, Steve Laws, and we are going to build a powerful ethno-nationalist protest movement.</p>
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<p>So by doing those three things, community, advocacy and activism. We are building something very different to a political party.</p>
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<p>Now, that means that when Restore Britain was formed, not that it has been formally registered yet, it wasn’t something I was particularly concerned about. Now, I can imagine a lot of people running micro parties were very upset and probably very depressed at the thought of Rupert Lowe starting a political party.</p>
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<p>Because if you were running a micro party, the day before Rupert Lowe started his political party, you probably thought you were going to hoover up everything to the right of Reform.</p>
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<p>However, when Rupert Lowe started his party, he gobbled up everything there. And now, if you are running one of these micro political parties that’s got a hundred, 200, 250 members, you’re not going to eclipse Rupert Lowe. In fact, you’re going to be completely eclipsed by Restore.</p>
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<p>So the political ground now on what you could say the populist Right, has been completely gobbled up by Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe. We, on the other hand, are going to keep doing the things we do. There is no other group in Britain that takes the approach we take. We are very open to working with other groups. The Woodlander Initiative, Remigration Now. We work with people like David Clews from Unity News Network, and we build, and are happy to build a coalition of groups that want to work together for the good of our people.</p>
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<p>So we’re very open to unity. We’re not trying to carve out some little niche for themselves and get involved in these sort of bun fights that you see a lot of these micro parties involved in. And by basically being unshackled from the electoral process, it allows us to do the things that are important. And it also means that if we feel passionately about something, we can pursue that without having to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, look, general public, we need you to vote for us. So we have to sell this thing that you probably won’t understand or agree with or believe in, to you.”</span></h3>
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<p>We’re not really bothered if the wider public doesn’t support some of the things we do. If the wider public doesn’t support our prisoner support program, well, so be it. We don’t have to sell it to them because we’re not going down the electoral route.</p>
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<p>And a lot of these micro parties are constantly trying to sell things to the British public that they don’t understand or can’t get their head around properly. And then they get 1.2% of the vote. And it’s all been a big waste of everyone’s time and money. And we simply don’t want to go down that route.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> No, Fair enough.</p>
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<p>So there’s a big sort of ethnic push from your side of things. I get that vibe. We’ve had a chat about it for nearly half an hour. I understand that. So what about people that aren’t ethnic nationals who say yours, Steve Law’s ideas, contribute to hostility or division of the British society at large?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, that’s a really, &#8230; Well, how can I say this politely? That’s a stupid point to make! And it’s a stupid point to make because the British people were not divided until mass immigration took place.</p>
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<p>The greatest division between the British people when we were an island nation made up of England, Scotland and Wales was when we played rugby against each other or football against each other. You know, as a young man growing up in Britain, when England played Scotland, it was a big event. When Paul Gascoigne, you know, ran down the middle of the pitch and scored that absolute screamer of a goal. You know, the English cheered and laughed and the Scots cried. And that was the division in Britain.</p>
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<p>The divisions in Britain now are much greater. And they haven’t been created by White Britons or by ethno-nationalists. They’ve been created by politicians who have brought other ethnic groups here that are so different to us. There is no hope of these people fitting in. They have created a multi-ethnic sectarian society and that has been created by design! That is not the fault of people like me who speak the truth! It is not the fault of indigenous Britons who by and large have always been against that level of mass immigration and that sort of immigration. And there are different types of immigration. But mass immigration from the developing and Third world has been something that the vast majority of White Britons have always opposed in one form or another.</p>
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<p>The fault for all of this lies at the feet of the politicians who have done this without our consent, against our wishes, and have created this sort of ethnic or racial tinderbox which is now causing so many problems!</p>
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<p>And when I say that, I’m not just talking about White on non-White. There are multiple different ethnic lines which create divisions. Hindus don’t like Muslims. Shiites don’t like Sunnies. There are different black gangs that murder each other on a daily basis because they come from different postcodes or have slightly different ethnicities and ethnic loyalties. We don’t want any of that here! Britain should not be a battleground for all these different ethnic groups. It should be our homeland. It is our homeland and it should be a place where we feel safe to go about our daily business and raise our children!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> You know what, that’s a very interesting point because when I was born in 86, so when I was a younger chap, Whites weren’t Whites. And I say that as a broad term. You know, White, Europeans, English, whichever term you want to use, were the majority.</p>
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<p>And it seems like things have got progressively worse now. People would say it’s migration. People say it’s the small boats. You could point a finger in many different ways. But what I want to get to is a different point entirely. Going back to my earlier point, doing my research on you before I reached out, obviously they call you all these names and they tied you all these different things.</p>
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<p>So what’s your view on Israel? Now the reason I ask that is because they charge you with being a Nazi, obviously. See where I’m going with this conversation? But Israel, from what I can gather through my research is, and through people I’ve spoke to out there, is an ethno-religious state where everyone, I assume, everyone is Israeli, jewish. Obviously you’ve got different sects of Judaism in there, but for the most part, Israel is supposed to be like a safe zone, a safe country for jews, regardless of what type of jew you are. It seems funny how Tommy is saying that the Israelis should have a state of their own, an ethno-state, an ethno-religious state, but not the UK. And that we’re like almost like a Brazilian style melting pot. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but be honest.</p>
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<p>So what’s your view on the Israel side of things? Because it seems like everyone’s okay with that, but when it’s the UK wanting an ethno-state, then it’s wrong.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, this is the greatest hypocrisy of our time. Powerful jews who live in Britain and wield vastly disproportionate power. They’re a tiny percentage of the UK population, but they wield vastly disproportionate power in terms of the number of seats in Parliament, in terms of their influence over Parliament, and the way that they distort both our domestic and foreign policy. These jews wield huge amounts of power. But not only do they wield huge amounts of power, but they do so in a way which is fundamentally not only to our detriment, but also hypocritical.</p>
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<p>So people who support Israel, especially powerful jews the British Board of Deputies and the little lap dogs, like little Zionist lap dogs like Tommy Robinson, they will tell you all day and all night that Israel deserves to be an ethno-state, that Israel is a place for the jews, that the jews have a right to a homeland, that they have a right to a homeland which they can defend, where they can control their own borders, that they shouldn’t be taking refugees, that they should be able to do what they want to their neighbours. Some people that Tommy Robinson has just met, the disgusting fat blob in America called Randy. Fine. He will tell you that in fact Israel has the right to starve the Gazan children. Disgusting! But these same people will tell you that actually White Britons do not have the right to be a super majority. That we don’t have the right to our own ethno-state, that the English do not have a right to a homeland, that we should share our homeland with everyone else.</p>
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<p>So the British Board of Deputies will say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself! The British government should defend Israel, we should send money there, we should sell them weapons, we should allow them to do what they want in defense of their ethno-state.”</span></h3>
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<p>But then when somebody says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well look, there’s tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming into Britain every year raping White girls, attacking young men, claiming huge amounts of benefits, living in hotels, huge amounts of taxpayers money.”</span></h3>
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<p>I think it’s about £8 million a day is spent housing these people in hotels. The British Board of Deputies will turn around and say:</p>
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<p>Why? Why is it that these people who support Israel, who support an ethno-state for jews and wield this huge amount of power, are all completely behind a place for jews, but don’t think the English have the same right? That’s a massive hypocrisy.</p>
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<p>And Tommy Robinson is a scumbag! Tommy Robinson is a guy who will fly around the world campaigning for the rights of jews. But if you ask him, should the English remain a majority in England, he will reel off 101 reasons why black people should come here, Indians should come here. He was outside the Iranian embassy the other day making clips about how he would allow more Iranians to come here because they’re good people, they don’t create problems. Why? Why do we have to be the nation that opens its borders, welcomes everyone in, hands everything to them on a plate, and then watches our own people become a minority, and a hated minority at that, whilst jews get to do the very opposite? And why are the people that advocate for open borders here the same people that advocate for closed borders and an ethno-state in the Middle East? This hypocrisy needs to be called out.</p>
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<p>And this is why I’m banned on X. It’s why I can’t get a bank account. It’s why I can’t travel to places like America. And it’s why Tommy is making millions of pounds a year! It’s why he travels everywhere. It’s why he’s got the freedom to do whatever he wants. It’s why he’s spending £455 on a T-shirt and £5,000 on a pair of shoes. It’s why his son is traveling around as an influencer on private jets. It’s because if you bow to these powerful jews and you advocate for Israel, you will be paid for doing. So you will be given freedom, you’ll be given the right to do as you please.</p>
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<p>Whereas if you say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, there’s some hypocrisy is going on here, you will lose everything like I have.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> So you called out what you saw as a double standard and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Massive double standard! Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> And they smeared you as a Nazi and you’ve been de-banked. What countries are you not allowed to go to? You said there was more than one.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> 29 European countries plus a complete ban from North America.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Just for calling out, calling it how you see this!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> For speaking about two things. Speaking about demography, and who controls Britain. Those two things. I speak primarily about demography and I talk about the disproportionate power that Zionists wield in the West. Those are the two things I talk about.</p>
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<p>And if you look at what’s going on in the world or what has gone on in the world over the last few years, I can tell you this unequivocally, there is no other nation on the planet who would be allowed to indiscriminately slaughter women and children in multiple different countries, kill foreign leaders, starve refugees, and attempt to drive millions of people out of their homes without international condemnation, sanctions, and even military action being taken against them. But Israel can do all of those things, and all we do is send them more money!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Right, Okay, I didn’t know any of that. So that’s all a learning point.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You must know that! I mean, look, come on, you’re an educated guy. You must know what’s been going on in Gaza. Look, I don’t want Palestinians here in Britain. I want Britain to be for us, but also I don’t want to see Palestinian children being slaughtered. I don’t want to see aid workers being strafed by Israeli jets, which has happened. You know, how many foreign nations or how many nations on the planet would get away with killing aid workers, delivering medical aid, food and water to women and children and it just be brushed under the carpet?</p>
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<p>You can Google all these things. Israel is essentially a country that has subverted Western domestic and foreign policy to the point that they have the complete ability to do as they please, even to commit genocide, which the UN has determined that they have done. The UN has determined they have committed genocide in Gaza. Yet America, Britain and numerous other countries are still dancing to their tune and nothing will happen about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Okay, so that all to one side. I’ll just put a pin in that for a moment. Do you think, two points to this question. Do you think that the jews should have a homeland, a jewish state of their own? And second point is a lot of people that have come out as ethno-nationalists and Catholics and Christians recently have said that they are Zionists, that they believe that Israel should have a right to exist regardless who lives there, I think it would still exist, personally, but like as it is so do you think this is people just toeing the line and Israel should be there or shouldn’t be there in its current form?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I will say this, and I’ll start this with an interesting point. I have said today at the beginning of this, you asked me sort of about re-migration. I laid out what I believe to be a very sensible, humane and lawful way about ensuring Britain remained ethnically homogeneous and a stable ethno-state. None of that was illegal. None of that was a call for violence.</p>
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<p>Yet for saying those things, you can be de-platformed. You can have Prevent at your door. You can have the police looking at your social media accounts and potentially arresting you, you can be de-banked. You can have a travel ban put upon you. Okay, for just saying what I said earlier, which I think were pretty reasonable points.</p>
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<p>Now you have Israel killing children, starving refugees, assassinating foreign leaders, destabilising sovereign nations, arming terrorist groups like Al Nusra Front in Syria, which are just the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda. You know, if you believe that Al Qaeda were the ones that blew up the twin towers on 9/11, why is Israel funding them and arming them and giving them air cover? Because that’s what they’ve been doing. Now I believe that all people all over the world deserve an ethno-state, okay? They deserve their own place in the world.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying that jews do not deserve a place in the world. But what I’m saying is, why do powerful jews use their power in the West to silence people like me for saying something reasonable, like I said earlier. Yet they support a state in the Middle East which is committing genocide and war crimes.</p>
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<p>Now, this is the thing, isn’t it? And what I’m putting to you today is not that jews don’t deserve a place to live. What I’m putting to you today is that jews are creating an ethno-state for themselves whilst denying that right to people of European descent. People like us the English, the Scottish, the Welsh. And isn’t it funny that every single time Israel strikes a foreign nation, Israel was heavily involved in the war in Iraq. Not on the ground, but in the preparations. And this all came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. Tony Blair said that he did meet, you know, leading Israelis who helped America and Britain not with information about important military sites in Iraq, but with making the decision to attack Iraq illegally.</p>
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<p>Now, Israel has destabilised Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, and now Iran. They do all this. But where does the flood of refugees and displaced people go when Israel commits these actions or prompts the West to commit those actions? They all come here! So wars for Israel in the Middle East, which help Israel grow, ensures Israel’s power and position in the region, only create floods of human traffic that come into the West. And we pay for it twice! We often pay for Israel’s military excursions. We often carry out their dirty work. And then there is always blowback. And the blowback is huge amounts of people leaving the Middle East and we face the blowback. How’s that a thing? How’s that fair? How does this keep happening?</p>
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<p>Well, it keeps happening because powerful jews in Britain silence people like me who speak the truth about this. And they pay people like Tommy Robinson pay them handsomely. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousand, millions of pounds a year. They build up their social media accounts, they fly them all over the world so that it appears that the populist Right in Britain, who should be enraged about what’s going on right now in the Middle East and should be saying:</p>
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<p>We shouldn’t be supporting Israel. We don’t want hundreds of thousands of Iranians coming to Europe.</p>
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<p>But instead, Tommy Robinson stood outside the Iranian embassy saying:</p>
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<p>This is all part of the Greater Israel plot or scheme or plan to create a powerful state for jews in the Middle East. But at the same time, what does it do? It reduces every other sovereign nation to either flames and destruction in the Middle East or here in the West. It reduces them to multicultural states.</p>
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<p>And once we become multicultural states, once we lack in-group preference, once we are riven with division, our nations, our countries collapse. And it leaves one country in the world towering above everyone else! And that one country is Israel.</p>
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<p>I don’t want to be ruled by Israel. I don’t want to be ruled by Zionists. I want England to be ruled by Englishmen for English men! And I don’t want to see Western nations belittle more than military puppets for a Zionist regime that cares nothing about White people!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> That almost sounds like the, what was it? The melting pot, Kalergi Plan?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, that’s what it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> And for those that don’t know, they should go have a look at it. Something about every nation becoming a well, no ethno-states anymore, essentially, wasn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But yeah, but there is one. That’s the point. So powerful jews in the West campaign for multiculturalism in every Western nation. They pass laws that discriminate and silence, discriminate against and silence ethno-nationalists. They support mass immigration, they support all kinds of policy Reform and social changes that reduce White birth rates. But they do the very opposite in Israel.</p>
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<p>So there is only going to be one group of people in the world who have a homogeneous, powerful ethnocentric state! It’s not going to be us.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> So why do you think they’re pushing this?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think it’s pretty obvious from what I’m saying. They covet power and they want to be the, &#8230; They understand that power comes through ethnocentrism. That power comes from understanding in-group preference and understanding that if you have in-group preference and you stand together as a group when everyone else is either divided, atomized or pursuing individualism, your group will be the most powerful.</p>
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<p>So let’s say you have a room full of a hundred people, 100 people. Now, if there’s a group of 20 amongst that hundred who work together and look after each other and act as a group and always have each other’s backs, no matter what, numerically they are still a minority. They only make up 20% of those in the room. But if the 80% are all bitterly divided and act only as individuals, the 20% can dominate the others. Now imagine that on a global scale, every nation is at war with itself, riven with division. Every nation is, or all White people pursue this individualism. Then ethnic groups come to Western nations and it all gets divided. They all become multi-ethnic sectarian societies where people compete for resources, they compete for money, they compete for a better slice of the pie for their particular group. So they’re all divided.</p>
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<p>But in the Middle East, there is this one nation that acts for itself, that acts for the good of its people to make sure that it is the pre-eminent state in the region. They have this huge amount of power by sticking together. And we just don’t have that. And largely we don’t have that because policies that the jewish diaspora, both social and legal policies that the jewish diaspora was pushed for in the West, has left us atomized and isolated. You know, our family units have been broken down. People pursue materialism. Rather than wanting to have children. We are all looking after ourselves. We’re all looking after, you know, short term our desire for short term pleasure.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Okay, okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And if anyone doubts me, right, I think we’d all agree, everyone watching this is probably going to agree that the feminist agenda has been damaging to the family unit in the West.</p>
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<p>The idea that women should, rather than embrace a man, they should compete with a man and attempt to do sort of male centric tasks to prove that women can do everything. And in doing that, they certainly shouldn’t marry a man or settle down or have children with a man, because that would undermine their individualism, their strength and their ability to show men that they can do it all on their own! Well, who’s pushed feminism? Just go on Wikipedia and type in list of jewish feminists. It’s pages long! Pages! Who brought about feminism? Who’s pushing pornography? Who owns OnlyFans? Look who owns it? Who owns Pornhub? It’s a rabbi! It’s a rabbi!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Is it really? I didn’t know that.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Who is pushing all of these things upon our people? Who owns the media? There are charts out there that list all the people. Who writes the books about, &#8220;White privilege&#8221;? Who are the professors in university that are teaching young White people to hate themselves and to rebel against their ancestors and despise their history?</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not saying it’s all jews, and I’m not saying it’s only jews that do this. But jews are vastly over-represented in the kind of activities that I’m talking about. And are often people who play roles in these activities that could be described, they could be described as &#8220;<em>instigators</em>&#8220;. They are people that play central roles in getting movements started that are ultimately detrimental to our long term survival.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Okay. That’s a lot of food for thought, to be honest. But I just want to bring it back to the point about Western nations being divided. I’ve seen more and more of it as I’ve got older, and I’m 40 this year. And it was never this bad.</p>
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<p>I mean, yeah, you’d have like the occasional, we all knew some twat who was a bit of a racist or someone who’d make a gay, &#8230; There was always someone who had a gay joke or whatever. And I remember, I think we peaked in the 90s where nobody gave a fuck!:</p>
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<p>All of a sudden. I’ve seen over the past, call it 15 years, there’s this massive sort of merge of everything being a problem now. Where do you think that has come from?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it’s come fundamentally from hate crime laws. It’s come from a huge shift to essentially cencored speech. I mean, what’s wrong with making jokes about gay people? What’s wrong with making jokes about anyone? Because you sure as hell can make jokes about White people! You can make jokes about straight White people, White families, you can make jokes about Christians, so why can’t you make jokes about Muslims? If you make jokes about straight people, why not about gay people? If you can make jokes about White people, why not about black people?</p>
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<p>The fact is, the policing of our speech has been something that has accelerated drastically, both in terms of legislation through the government and in terms of the way the media have weaponised the idea that if you say something that’s unpopular, you should be hounded, you should be banned off social media, you should lose your job, and you should face social repercussions which are so strong that it leaves people sat in their houses feeling as if they can’t speak their mind and bottling everything up.</p>
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<p>Now, look if you happen to be gay, which I don’t think you are, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> I’m married! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> To a woman. To a woman!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But if you’re gay and you want to do that in your bedroom, it’s up to you. Right? But why do we have to have grown men walking down the street in bondage gear, performing sex acts on each other on a Saturday in broad daylight in the middle of August, in front of families going out shopping. Why has it gone?</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Actually, it was the podcaster, Andrew Gold. I met him last year at the Battle of Ideas in London. He actually said, I’m sure it was him. He was at a Pride march, just good to see what it’s like. And he saw two men doing that in the middle of the day.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, but why do we have to see that? What you see, this is an interesting thing, isn’t it? Why has it become normalised? Why have the people in power made it normal for two gay men to perform sex acts on each other in broad daylight at a festival and then termed it “<em>Pride</em>”?</p>
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<p>Well, again, it’s an attack on the family unit, it’s an attack on decency, it’s an attack on morality, and it’s attack on children.</p>
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<p>And ultimately, that last point is more prescient than ever, because you can see what they’re doing to our children. It’s constant sexualisation, abuse, trying to get children to accept things which are absolutely sick and twisted!</p>
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<p>And a lot of this then is all wrapped up in careful marketing. The word “<em>pride, rainbows, love is love</em>”. Well, is any of this good for us? Does any of this make life better for regular folk? Is any of this actually helping? Because they would talk about safeguarding, don’t they, safeguarding children, whilst a Drag Queen is reading to them. And the Drag Queen’s associated with another Drag Queen who’s committed sex offences against children and then goes on to die after having sex with a dog! You know, those are the sort of people that these people say, “<em>love is love</em>”, want your children to be exposed to. And women take this, because one of the core British values, we’re told, is “<em>tolerance</em>”. Well, I say that tolerance is not a virtue, it’s a sickness! It’s a sickness that has been pushed upon us. And many Western people now are afflicted with that sickness.</p>
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<p>And we need to purge that sickness, and we need to be less tolerant. Because, remember, tolerance isn’t a good thing. You tolerate something that you don’t fundamentally like. You take a walk to the shops and you tolerate the stone in your shoe because you’re thinking:</p>
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<p>But the stone’s hurting your foot. You tolerate things that you don’t like or that harm you, and you tolerate them to your detriment until you can tolerate them no further.</p>
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<p>Why is it a virtue to tolerate things that harm you and your family? It’s a virtue because the people in power have twisted everything and turned it against us. Even our core values that now apparently underpin our society are actually evils that do anything but underpin our society.</p>
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<p>They destroy traditional British society! They destroy any last ethnocentric pockets around the country in order to leave White Britons as isolated, atomized individuals who are then prey to ethnocentric groups brought here from overseas who are handed everything on a plate and often learn to hate us when they arrive here. Because as soon as they get off the boat the first thing they’re probably given is a nice hotel room and some money. But if they start doing some watching of the television or some reading of the books, they’ll soon learn about how the White man is evil, how British people oppressed everyone, how we’re basically demons in human skin that have this great privilege and have been keeping them down for not just decades, but for centuries, maybe even millennia! What is this? Well, it’s a system of not just replacing us, but it’s a system of turning us into a hated minority who are preyed upon by those brought here to replace us.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> And that’s a very sort of deep point as well. I know we’re sort of getting pressed for time. We’ve got about 15 minutes left. I know you, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, this is why people like Andrew Gold won’t debate me. There’s people like Andrew Gold and Liam Tufts and Tommy Robinson, fundamentally cowardly people. They would never debate somebody like me because I can actually answer what they are saying. I can actually put these points over in a relatively articulate and engaging way. And it’s why I’m so heavily banned. I’m not banned because I’m making ridiculous points. If I was making ridiculous points and I was some kind of racist caricature, I would be on X and I’d be boosted to the moon, because then everyone would laugh at me and say:</p>
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<p>So they get rid of people like me, and then you have people on X who do things in such a clownish way. They’re getting millions of views, but they look like complete idiots and they embarrass our cause. They’ll turn up and do street stalls with two or three people dressed in what looks like a Hitler cosplay outfit. They’re allowed on X and they will get millions of views for doing that because people are laughing at them.</p>
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<p>No one’s gonna let me go on X and get millions of views because what I’m saying is relatable. And when people do upload clips of me on X, like Jake Shields recently did, they go viral, you know, hundreds, thousands or millions of people see them and go:</p>
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<p>You’ve not heard of me because I’m basically the most banned man in Europe because what I say makes sense! And anyone that fact checks it the points I’ve made about IDF planes killing civilians and killing aid workers, they’ll find out it’s all true! And then they’ll be like:</p>
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<p>Well they didn’t know about it because there is an aggressive agenda in place to keep the truth from you.</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Okay, okay.</p>
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<p>So what does the future look like? If we could fix things, what would the future look like if, say, I’m a Harry Potter wizard and you’re Prime Minister tomorrow, Mark, what are you going to do to fix the country?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, like I said the first thing you do is you’d stop immigration. You would then start a system of repatriation or re-migration. As I said, and I laid it out earlier, you would put in place lessons in schools which taught White Britons to be proud of the great things that their ancestors did. Why is it wrong to have national pride? Why is it right to teach White kids that their ancestors were evil slave owners, when in fact Britain was the one country that on a global level opposed slavery and essentially brought it to an end? So if slavery is the big evil, why aren’t our kids taught, well, you’re actually the descendants of people who ended slavery! That’s what the British Empire did!</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> It did. Yeah, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Instead we’re told:</p>
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<p>These are simple policies that could turn things around. Repeal the ridiculous hate crime laws, tear down the facial recognition systems, put an end to digital ID, enshrine things like jury trials, have free speech for everyone in Britain, build an ethno-state, a high trust, high IQ, ethno-state for indigenous Britons, where our children are safe to play in the street, where men and women feel safe to voice their opinion when something’s going wrong. Build a country where you have a representative democracy that really represents the people!</p>
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<p>Why is it a taboo to point out that democracy, which is another one of these apparent “<em>British values</em>”, doesn’t work? How many people are there in Parliament that actually represent our views? 2, 3 out of 650 seats? We just want a better world, and we don’t just want it for White Britons. If you said to me:</p>
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<p>Well, yeah, I want the same for the Japanese. I want the same for the Indians. Let India be an ethno-state! Let Afghanistan be ruled by the Afghans! I was against the war in Afghanistan. If Afghans want to live under the rule of the Taliban, as long as they don’t threaten their neighbours or us, let them. If the Japanese want to live proud, ethnocentric Japanese men and women that honour their ancestors, just let them. Let everyone control their own destiny, live within their own areas. We can trade. We can visit each other. There’s no reason why we can’t have the Olympic Games or the World Cup. We can even learn from each other, if we wish to.</p>
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<p>But the fact is, good fences make good neighbours! Every group of people, every ethnic group, has their place in the world. But why should it be on the same street here in England? It shouldn’t! You know, Japanese people in Japan, Nigerians in Nigeria. Why should they all be on the same street in England competing against each other for a slice of the pie?</p>
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<p><strong>Dean McIntosh:</strong> Mark, that’s a brilliant, brilliant end to this episode. Thank you ever so much for your time today.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much! If people want to hear more from me, check me out on Rumble, check me out on Telegram, check me out on Gab. I mean, all those good places. I produce regular content like this.</p>
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<p>And if you do give me a sub, I will be very grateful. Thank you so much!</p>
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<p>@evolassunglasses4673<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Brilliant guest.<br />
In group preference is completely normal around the World. Mankind is tribal. White people are finding this out the hard way.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
5 days ago<br />
Thank you kindly<br />
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Can&#8217;t argue with a word he&#8217;s said. All very reasonable.<br />
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<p>@Keribou109<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you for having Mark on <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you for watching<br />
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<p>@homebusiness8166<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Britain, England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland.<br />
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<p>@HopyHop1<br />
10 days ago<br />
Ireland has the same problem.<br />
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<p>@Livinginlanguage<br />
5 days ago<br />
I think Britain is England, Scotland and Wales while the United Kingdom includes Northern Island,<br />
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<p>@disillusioneddisappointed<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
most of our ancestors were HUMBLE POOR FARMERS. NOT rich slave owners!<br />
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<p>@Lakers-u2v<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Exactly! I hate when you have people like ian wright constantly go on about whote this and white that. It&#8217;s our country!! Dont tell else what we have been. Get out of you dont like us.<br />
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<p>@Benjamin-j5t5u<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
Mark is a true Patriot who loves his country and it&#8217;s people. What is wrong with that. Restore Britain <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Veyron1967<br />
9 days ago<br />
Maximum of 38 months to next election yet Rupert hasn’t even registered his party.<br />
I can’t decide whether Lowe has been tricked by the establishment to dilute Reform’s vote, or if he just hates Farage so damn much he’s willing to risk another eight years of left wing destruction.<br />
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<p>@evolassunglasses4673<br />
7 days ago<br />
​ @Veyron1967 Reform have on solutions. Its better we start building something new NOW<br />
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<p>@manchesterlass600<br />
3 days ago<br />
@Veyron1967 untrue &#8211; the application is in and just waiting for approval by The Electoral Commission</p>
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<p>@JacksonFairweather<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Good to see Mark Collett back on Youtube. He has been banned by every platform possible, and deserves to be heard.<br />
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<p>@PatriotViolet<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Wow your guest has put into words my every thought<br />
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<p>@LegendofLovecraft-b7r<br />
6 days ago<br />
Hail Collet!<br />
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<p>@maxhession9797<br />
5 days ago<br />
Mark Collet has ball of fucking steel and deserves ALLL of the respect and ALLLL of the love. We as british people have the duty to protect this man<br />
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<p>@ayupmeduck5708<br />
5 days ago<br />
Fluent use of the English language is a must, no exceptions.<br />
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<p>@kevinsavage808<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Best interview from Mark for a long time. Allowed to speak and answer good questions put to him. Good Interviewer&#8230;.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you kindly<br />
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<p>@paulsmith8858<br />
12 days ago (edited)<br />
No, he didn&#8217;t challenge him on anything!!!</p>
<p>@kevinsavage808<br />
12 days ago<br />
​@paulsmith8858he didn&#8217;t need to, all true, you can&#8217;t argue with the truth<br />
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<p>@Gudha_Ismintis<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
the &#8216;Frankfurt School&#8217; has a lot to answer for<br />
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<p>@Wjfiswjei183<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Oy vey!<br />
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<p>@nationalist9904<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Very true, Professor Kevin MacDonald goes over Frankfurt school and others in Culture of Critique. Essential reading to understand how we&#8217;ve been subverted<br />
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<p>@Costa_del_Artlepool<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
He&#8217;s always on point and a very compelling speaker. It&#8217;s plain to see why they make life so hard for him.<br />
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<p>@johnlondon5516<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
He said AIDS was a kind disease because it targeted gay men and drug users.<br />
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<p>@Costa_del_Artlepool<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@johnlondon5516 Kind AND based then?<br />
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<p>@johnlondon5516<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
You don’t have to agree with homosexuality, but being that cruel and callous is terrible optics. Most normal people in the developed world are repelled by cruelty.</p>
<p>@Costa_del_Artlepool<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@johnlondon5516 Get over yourself, Princess. There are bigger problems afoot.<br />
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<p>@johnlondon5516<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@Costa_del_Artlepool I forgot we only have the capacity to deal with one problem at a time.<br />
Room temperature IQ.<br />
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<p>@Costa_del_Artlepool<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@johnlondon5516 The big problem tends to throw your lot off roofs.<br />
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<p>@EnglishFemale<br />
13 days ago<br />
​@johnlondon5516 be careful you don&#8217;t snap your string of pearls<br />
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<p>@stevestone4346<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Great guest. Mark is the real deal as far as I’m concerned. I hardly ever find anything I can disagree with him on.<br />
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<p>@Occident.<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
He&#8217;s consistent. I shared a stage with him in Darlington back in 2002. He was a young dude, but delivered a great speech. His position has not shifted. He has stuck to his views. Good on him.<br />
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<p>@tonyaughney8945<br />
12 days ago<br />
Great interview. Mark is a top man.<br />
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<p>@ScepticalWoman<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Rupert Lowe is the acceptable face of the views<br />
expressed here. This gentleman was ahead of his time. That time has now come.<br />
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<p>@shanetomlinson4604<br />
5 days ago<br />
Powell wasn&#8217;t listened to, Griffin wasn&#8217;t listened to, Lowe is our last chance<br />
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<p>@historyandculture6369<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark hit the nail on the head though and pointed out that anyone &#8216;on the right&#8217; espousing Zionist views<br />
, is usually a snake in the grass. I&#8217;ve yet to see what Lowe is all about when it comes to Israel.<br />
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<p>@ThisIsJamesL<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Proud to have Mark as my friend <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@edmundblackaddercoc8522<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
When you know you know.<br />
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<p>@mesolithicman164<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I know.<br />
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<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Great to see Mark getting his say ,talks total sense<br />
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<p>@DrChunkyBiscuit<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Top man is Mark! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/263a.png" alt="☺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@shaunhalliwell7544<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Been consistent in his views.<br />
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<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
13 days ago<br />
@shaunhalliwell7544 Been consistent in his grifting too. Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn&#8217;t attend due to sickness but he wouldn&#8217;t return them their money.</p>
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<p>@geraldfisher5683<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Very good interview. Mark talks a lot of sense. We urgently need a policy of Remigration. It is the only way to get our country back.<br />
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<p>@carpetsonline3718<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
&#8221; is this good for Jews&#8221; as they break out in a cold sweat&#8230;.<br />
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<p>@DrChunkyBiscuit<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
First time Mark has been interviewed by Orson Welles. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Compliment of the day! Makes a change not being called Temu Carl Benjamin<br />
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<p>@arslongavitabrevis5136<br />
5 hours ago<br />
@DMLaments face-green-smilingface-green-smilingface-green-smiling</p>
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<p>@WolvesRugeley<br />
5 days ago<br />
Very interesting interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@fishtherapy100<br />
13 days ago<br />
THIS IS COMMON SENSE. COMMON SENSE HAS BEEN CRIMINALISED. THIS WAS A BOG STANDARD VIEW IN THE 1970’S. I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY STANCE AT ALL.<br />
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<p>@AJC298<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Really good interview that. I have a lot of time for Mark and have read his book.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
They want to bring back Babylon and rule over it<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
Dude was born when I graduated highschool. I&#8217;ve watched all of this happen since the 80s. Every year it&#8217;s worse and worse<br />
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<p>@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj<br />
9 days ago<br />
Mark makes a lot of sense &amp; only describes the way this Country was during my childhood growing up in the fifties &amp; the sixties.Our leaders have completely betrayed us.<br />
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<p>@homebusiness8166<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Great Video Paul with the truth.<br />
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<p>@evolassunglasses4673<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Everything the BNP predicted, particularly Jonathan Bowden is coming true.<br />
They had a much better understanding of the long-term trajectory of Liberal Capitalism / The Global American Empire/ Z0G than the centre Right.<br />
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<p>@Occident.<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Met that great man twice in the N/E. Blucher Village in 2006, and Jarrow in 2008. Brillient Orator Smashing fellow.<br />
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<p>@anthonygreen7063<br />
13 days ago<br />
​@Occident.A brilliant orator.<br />
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<p>@mesolithicman164<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
In politics timing is everything.<br />
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<p>@Dim3nsion_78<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Labour have repeatedly stated it has been left with a £22bn blackhole in its finances. Yet continues to spend billions on hotels and welfare for migrants. The government could easily cut its expenditure and reduce the debt &#8211; but it hasnt. This isnt incompetence, they want the migrants here.<br />
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<p>@ColtPython22<br />
12 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s refreshing to see an interviewer who lets their guest speak without interrupting.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago<br />
Thank you kindly<br />
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<p>@disillusioneddisappointed<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Schools LIE . Schools LIE to children. Schools NO LONGER teach the Truth and Facts.<br />
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<p>@PaulD330<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
He&#8217;s just a nationalist, eth nat is a made up term.<br />
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<p>@Occident.<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
To be a Nationalist, was to be an Ethno Nationalist. It literally went without saying. However since the controlled opposition Tommy Robinson and others appeared, with their brand if multi-racial (fake) Nationalism, the term &#8220;Civic&#8221; was coined to describe that movement. Hence we have the two. &#8220;Ethno&#8221; and &#8220;Civic&#8221;. Only the former is real Nationalism. The latter is a half measure, a cowardly cop out doomed to failure.<br />
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<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
It&#8217;s been coined due to the likes of Tommy or Farage civ nat aka fake nationalists so it helps to distinguish who&#8217;s on the side of the indigenous white population that being ethno nationalists<br />
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<p>@mesolithicman164<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @PpHT9217<br />
Dud you see Robinson and his &#8220;Not White&#8221; quote. I find that very troubling. And Spanish resident, Paul Thorpe, is exactly the same. All calling for Unity on their terms. Suspicious agenda.<br />
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<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @mesolithicman164 you only need to follow the money who his handlers are ,Steven is a puppet for Jewish Israel interests, he does not care one bit about the indigenous white populations in Europe becoming a minority<br />
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<p>@anthonygreen7063<br />
13 days ago<br />
Since Blair&#8217;s time, we&#8217;ve been sold the idea that to be British is to hold a passport and sign up (officially, at least) to &#8216;liberal&#8217; values, not ethnicity. That&#8217;s why we need to disringuish between &#8216;Ethno&#8217; and &#8216;Civic&#8217; Nationalism. I say this as a man with a Chinese wife, and two mixed race sons. She is a British citizen, and a good one, but she wouldn&#8217;t dream of claiming to ethnically English or British.<br />
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<p>@mesolithicman164<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
No. 2 things.<br />
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<p>@bullseyecooper1739<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Tolerance is Not an English or Christian value! There is no such thing as British values, that term was coined by Tony Blair!<br />
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<p>@RosemarieMaders<br />
6 days ago<br />
This person speaks the absolute truth<br />
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<p>@Ann-u5k5n<br />
10 days ago<br />
The English Constitution is the solution for us all<br />
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<p>@SerenaJB3<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Mark is a great person and a true patriot.<br />
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<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
13 days ago<br />
And a grifter. Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn&#8217;t attend due to sickness but he wouldn&#8217;t return them their money.</p>
<p>@PpHT9217<br />
11 days ago<br />
​ @jackdoe4632 he takes those super chats to live , like to see how you get on being completely de banked<br />
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<p>@PeterFrance707<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
We&#8217;d prefer not to be rubbed out thank you very much<br />
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<p>@filled_soda<br />
8 days ago<br />
This comment section fills me with hope.<br />
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<p>@EnglishFemale<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
If they silence you it&#8217;s because you speak truth .<br />
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<p>@lowbrow<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Agree with every single word<br />
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<p>@Stanley_1215<br />
7 days ago<br />
And thats why they&#8217;ve silenced him and won&#8217;t debate him. He eloquently speaks researchable facts!<br />
I&#8217;m ashamed of not caring about politics until the referendum. I&#8217;m ashamed i fell for tommy 10 sheckles. I&#8217;m ashamed i fell for the smear campains against this man.<br />
I&#8217;m glad I have the humility to admit it.<br />
A lot of gen Xers like myself were too busy living hedonistic lifestyles to see beyond the bottom of a bear glass.<br />
Thanks for having the courage that other podcastsers lack. I love anyone who can laugh at themselves Orson Wells <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I saw your reply <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44c-1f3fb.png" alt="👌🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
Subbed <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
7 days ago<br />
Welcome to Laments<br />
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<p>@djsioux2265<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
This sounds like what Rupert Lowe has planned.<br />
Restore Britain <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ooWodensEyeoo<br />
7 days ago<br />
Yes but this is proper..<br />
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
And he&#8217;s not far right. He&#8217;s just right.<br />
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<p>@julianmorris9951<br />
12 days ago<br />
Hypothetically, if you’re a black man in the absolute middle of nowhere on your last legs and suddenly see three groups of say 50 men, one group is white the other Pakistani and the third group is black, who do you walk towards?????, you would 100% walk towards your own ethnicity and there’s nothing wrong with that <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f937.png" alt="🤷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
Look at what their talmude says and kaballah<br />
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<p>@maxhession9797<br />
5 days ago<br />
Fucking incredible to see Mark Collet! Love Mark! Saw the interview with russel brand from 2002 and was woken the fuck up!<br />
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<p>@andreroswell1561<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Great interview.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you, much appreciated<br />
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<p>@naedprary1721<br />
13 days ago<br />
there are also those with citizenship that came here illegally and are now legal; these must go as well<br />
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<p>@bullseyecooper1739<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
If you were born in the 70’s you would have a very different opinion as you would have seen a total collapse of English society!!!<br />
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<p>@ShamanKyrick<br />
12 days ago<br />
I was born in &#8217;90 and can say the exact same<br />
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<p>@ClintBeastBud<br />
12 days ago<br />
The guy speaks complete sense and truth fair play to him.<br />
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<p>@djsioux2265<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Just found your channel, it poped up in my feed.<br />
The youtube algorithms are working well atm, finding lots of decent channels talking sense.<br />
Great interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64c.png" alt="🙌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thank you kindly, more interviews due to be released<br />
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<p>@djsioux2265<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @DMLaments I have notifications set for your channel so look forward to more discussions.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @djsioux2265 thank you. There&#8217;s a lot more coming, various topics and people<br />
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<p>@belindakennedy5828<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
The natives can&#8217;t afford having large families also no housing to even think about having large families,somehow our replacements seem to have no problem in the UK doing those things with extra help from governments past and present.<br />
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<p>@Occident.<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
All part of the deliberate replacement policy. One bunch behind it.<br />
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<p>@DC3RejuvationGB<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​@Occident.We node<br />
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<p>@filled_soda<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
I literally just finished Dutton&#8217;s review of Naziboy. This popped up afterwards.<br />
Mark&#8217;s a legend.<br />
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<p>@jagi1484<br />
13 days ago<br />
I don’t understand the world has gone mad. All this is two men having a sensible conversation.<br />
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<p>@BasedSaxon<br />
12 days ago<br />
Always liked Mark<br />
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<p>@nadimovitch9237<br />
5 days ago<br />
Let&#8217;s see if Rupert kisses the wall.<br />
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<p>@WingBroJoseph<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
EthNats for the win!<br />
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<p>@myt110<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Aim high, vote Lowe<br />
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<p>@NotOnMyWatch-i8n<br />
13 days ago<br />
Does this mean I can’t move to Florida and get given a free house and some cash? Damn! I was relying on that.<br />
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<p>@johngammon963<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
This is true<br />
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<p>@waxingmiracle<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Good chat and discussion thanks.<br />
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<p>@homebusiness8166<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Paul, we live and learn, we hope.<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
That&#8217;s the problem. Everyone has turned a blind eye<br />
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<p>@endrominastercermilenio642<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
We are a huge problem in our democracy when people like the guest today, Mark Collet, are cancelled.<br />
I can&#8217;t argue against anything that he said. And I am an immigrant that he would like to repatriate!<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
He was cancelled a while ago, as well as debanked and is barred from majority of Europe<br />
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<p>@lisalisalake<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
don&#8217;t ignore the absolutely connected and dangerous biblical/religious aspect to all of this&#8230;the imposition of noahide law in every nation&#8230; jewish sharia if you will&#8230;<br />
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<p>@gabemore1766<br />
7 days ago<br />
It’s a genocide<br />
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<p>@stuka80<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
man i remember mark colet from years ago. dude disappeared for yearse. im happy to see him again.<br />
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<p>@stephenparker5241<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Nationalist are ethnats, but they try to portray them as white supremacists which as far as I can see this isn&#8217;t the case<br />
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<p>@smithjones9130<br />
13 days ago (edited)<br />
It must be frustrating for Mark. 20 plus years he&#8217;s been banging this drum &amp; now the overton window has shifted far enough to make his talking points mostly acceptable, he can&#8217;t because he&#8217;s banned from everywhere.<br />
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<p>@kirstypalmer33<br />
12 days ago<br />
MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME<br />
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<p>@sparticale1954<br />
5 days ago<br />
36%, 25%, 16%. Better to be an Ethno-Natinolist than the victim of Ethno-Genocide.<br />
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<p>@cimmerian_savage9736<br />
5 days ago<br />
If caring about the survival of your own race is tribalism, then tribalism is simply the natural, default behavior of any organism that exists in populations rather than as isolated atoms.<br />
A Nation body of people having a common descent, history, culture, or language but without a separate or politically independent territory.<br />
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<p>@bigjawontour9679<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Mark came out of the English working class and knows his stuff. One of the only men in the UK who has ALWAYS stuck to his principles.<br />
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<p>@Multiverse82<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Money doesn’t buy you class <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Heimbach1966<br />
13 days ago<br />
He&#8217;s not working class. That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s never had any real traction<br />
PA is just middle class people.<br />
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<p>@bigjawontour9679<br />
8 days ago<br />
​ @Heimbach1966 after a quick search on wikipedia, I stand corrected. From a middle class town and privately educated. PA do know what is going on rather than being paid up zio shills imo.<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
@Heimbach1966 Who cares what class he is &#8211; Tommy Robinson claims he is &#8220;working class,&#8221; yet is stinking rich by most standards, shrills for Israel and grifts money of his gullible supporters.<br />
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<p>@robhunt-watts8908<br />
5 days ago<br />
I liked &amp; subscribed because I too am an English ethnonationalist.<br />
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<p>@robertlestylo6085<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Excellent interview. My contribution: the Paradox of Tolerance (Karl Popper &#8211; Austrian philosoper). To those unfamiliar: Look it up.<br />
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<p>@teaattiffanys<br />
2 days ago<br />
Absolutely and we have to be proud of who we are . And thats not another state of Islam we will be another Iran unless we vote Restore Britain. No other party will put the indigenous first<br />
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<p>@Martine-c3t<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
So me being a kind English white lady gets called more names as an adult then I did as a child but maybe that’s because as a child everyone looked like me <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f633.png" alt="😳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I always wondered why god put us in our own countries?? Could it be because we don’t really get on with each other or does saying that make me a racist?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f614.png" alt="😔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />new subscriber <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f618.png" alt="😘" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@djsioux2265<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Spot on <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I hear you as a boomer, we didnt have these issues back in the days!<br />
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<p>@wobwub8188<br />
12 days ago<br />
Take the first two minutes, how do you disagree or argue with that?! I can’t.<br />
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<p>@Livinginlanguage<br />
5 days ago<br />
As Mark says &#8211; it is PATriotic Alternative. PATriotic (British English) &#8211; PATEriotic (American English). When did so many of us come to speak American and why? (Fine, of course, for the Americans.)<br />
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<p>@CaroleHoward-g6p<br />
13 days ago<br />
Thanks for the video very informative<br />
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<p>@Pumpemup<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I agree with everything this man said<br />
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<p>@TheArtofTheBrave<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Mark talks a lot of sense, especially his closing remarks. the stumbling block is that certain people would find it impossible to parasitize the populations of western ethno-states, and they will, and do do all they can to prevent that&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
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<p>@eyemallears2647<br />
13 days ago<br />
This is crazy. How am I struggling to find fault in any of his points???<br />
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<p>@piercerockwell2588<br />
12 days ago<br />
Why are you trying to go against an Englishman that wants England to be White? What&#8217;s wrong with you<br />
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<p>@BlueRadleys<br />
6 days ago<br />
Because it&#8217;s impossible to find fault with the truth.<br />
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<p>@benjaminchadwick3749<br />
6 days ago<br />
There are no faults!!! Hes spot on with all of it bravo <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@venx4733<br />
2 days ago<br />
Simon Tomlin is not a Walter Mitty , he is the real deal &#8230;.he&#8217;s always been a Nationalist&#8230;.<br />
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<p>@winstonsmithstaxi<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
I used to disagree with PA on repatriation and ethic identity stopping non Brits from standing for public office. I have now changed my mind. I will add that while we should try to make change politically, we need to be realistic and accept that a conflict is inevitable<br />
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<p>@ryan-audax<br />
13 days ago<br />
You think a civil conflict in the UK is inevitable?</p>
<p>@BlueRadleys<br />
6 days ago<br />
Took your time getting there <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
Followed you for years buddy, hope the family are well.</p>
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<p>@stephenwellstriggers<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark is a legend<br />
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<p>@YJB8CCFC<br />
6 days ago<br />
All the hatred and divide is being caused by Western Governments and the Jewish state of Israel. The Jews and the west want total control of the Middle East for its oil rich reserves. It’s causing upheaval to the people there, causing waves of migration to the west. That’s the big issue. If we(The west) and Israel didn’t interfere in Middle East politics, they’d all still be there. And this has been going on since WW2<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
Yep everything and all our countries have been bought and paid for by them.<br />
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Britsh society. Wtf is that. Currently its based on invasion. Who would want to uphold that.<br />
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<p>@disillusioneddisappointed<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
The thing that really gets my goat is the lack of any Christian traditions in schools. Lack of respect for Christians in schools. My son being told to hide his cross ,whilst a dominant religion is rammed down their throats constantly,even colouring in geometric patterns handed out to the children are labelled islamic patterns?!?!? well,to me they looked like stained glass window,Church patterns!<br />
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<p>@johnfused8281<br />
13 days ago<br />
We aren&#8217;t a Christian country. We are a pagan country. What does christianity have to do with Britain?<br />
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<p>@auntsally5683<br />
9 days ago<br />
@johnfused8281 a lot if you look into it, crusades, the national flag, christian names, the law&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;it is fused with pagan traditions as well.<br />
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<p>@naedprary1721<br />
13 days ago<br />
makes sense to be an ethnonat<br />
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<p>@keithswood6205<br />
12 days ago<br />
Good interview and not one unreasonable point. The host was good and I recommend he follows up on the points Mark made about some of the key actors behind every single subversive movement of the last century. Its worldview shaping stuff.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago<br />
Its on my &#8220;to do&#8221; list<br />
Thank you kindly for watching</p>
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<p>@AliceEngland-n8w<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I absolutely agree with everything that dear English gentleman Mark Collett has said in this stream, thank you @DMLaments for interviewing him. I am highly educated and have done mass research and know what Mark is saying is true. God bless you and every native British.<br />
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<p>@DaveRhine-h4g<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Wow! At about 37:31 the host declares that he doesn&#8217;t know about Israel getting away with the genocide of Gaza in sight of the whole world. At this point in time how could you not be aware of that?<br />
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<p>@Multiverse82<br />
9 days ago<br />
Genocide in Gaza??!!</p>
<p>@DMLaments<br />
13 days ago<br />
I dont follow Israeli news<br />
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<p>@historyandculture6369<br />
3 days ago<br />
@DMLaments Its world news my guy, it&#8217;s all interconnected. The way of Palestine will be the way of the world.</p>
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<p>@bullseyecooper1739<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Surely he’s just a “Nationalist”?<br />
This term “Ethno” is pure gaslighting and deflection!<br />
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<p>@danielarcher1459<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Mark is brilliant, thank you.<br />
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<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
13 days ago<br />
Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn&#8217;t attend due to sickness but he wouldn&#8217;t return them their money. Brilliant at grifting.</p>
<p>@danielarcher1459<br />
13 days ago<br />
​ @jackdoe4632 I have been invited to those events too and before you make the payment it states very clearly &#8216;All sales are final and non-refundable&#8217;. Perhaps if you spent as much time advocating for our people as Mark does and less time gossiping you would command more respect, but you come across as petty and deconstructive to the cause.<br />
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<p>@arslongavitabrevis5136<br />
6 hours ago (edited)<br />
Excellent interview. Mark Collett is a true patriot. He put up with a lot of abuse and harassment, like Laura Towler and Sam Meliá, but carried on fighting. I wish him and PA all the best. Simon Tomlin is a despicable creature who has been abusing and slandering Mark, Laura Towler and many other honourable nationalists. According to him, he is the ONLY decent, true nationalist. He is either a psychopath or a troll working for the government.</p>
<p>@belindakennedy5828<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
Why would any country feed the ones who attack them,Egypt, Jordan also shared a border with Palestine,but they also closed their borders to Palestine.arabs are not native to those parts either.<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
I love this guy!!! This is what Jesus was preaching. Jesus Christ is King and I can&#8217;t wait till He is ruling the entire earth again. Come soon Lord<br />
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<p>@psychodrilla<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Ruperts plan will never happen &#8211; the half past twos have bought and paid for all this. Ask Barbara Lerner Spectre!<br />
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<p>@trance.vault.official<br />
5 days ago<br />
Simon tomlin is a true nationalist look him up<br />
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<p>@paulmorrisrotga77<br />
11 days ago<br />
Great video, subscribed and here is a comment.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
11 days ago<br />
Thank you kindly<br />
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<p>@Alma-q6m<br />
13 days ago<br />
It is immigration policies. It is immigration policies. Restrict and limit the state. Embrace the free market system. The ingenuity of the Brits is amazing. Get back to the community. Civil disobedience, where you refuse to pay taxes that are working against you.<br />
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<p>@TheGreatWhiteLight<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
So the right has been completely gobbled up by Tories<br />
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<p>@mesolithicman164<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
That was the Tory job, keep the Right out of power. So no room for people like Enoch. Now Farage is tge last attempt to corale the RW vote, but he&#8217;s failing. Reform is dropping like a stone.<br />
And Restore is on the way up.<br />
So it needs to keep fools like Ben Habib and Robinson out of the party.<br />
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<p>@Rusty-Hinge<br />
13 days ago<br />
Came for the Collett interview, left because of the advert volume.<br />
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<p>@Jimmy-i9g2s<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
If not for Isreal, the world’s opinion of Hitler and co would be very different.<br />
There are many reports of people welcoming the Germans into their countries. The victors of war write the history books.<br />
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<p>@Occident.<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Sometimes it takes 100 years to really appreciate the work of a Painter.<br />
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<p>@Freyjawitch<br />
2 weeks ago</p>
<p>@Occident.And sometimes it takes no time at all</p>
<p>@Freyjawitch<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
How did that work out for them?</p>
<p>@vincemarshall8550<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @Freyjawitch well how&#8217;s it working out for us ?<br />
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<p>@domestinger8805<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
nationalist = ethnonationalist<br />
you have fallen for the language trick<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
Brilliant guest &#8211; I agree with everything Mark says. However I have to say that I find it a very strange interview style from the host &#8211; he asks a question for a second time &#8211; eg &#8220;what would you do on you do on your first day as PM&#8221; when Mark has already answered that at length.<br />
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<p>@DS-it9ef<br />
2 days ago<br />
If we ban halal they will start stealing and slaughtering our farmers cattle and continue to kill our wildlife<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
1 day ago<br />
So you&#8217;d let it continue?<br />
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<p>@DS-it9ef<br />
10 hours ago<br />
​ @DMLaments no, we need to be more serious with our tactics. They only respect strength. They think politeness and kindness is a weakness. That&#8217;s why they have been taking advantage of us for decades</p>
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Power<br />
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<p>@JaneBarlow-z7y<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Im not being snotty, but instead of guests why dont you Brits submit FOIA requests to all the city/ town councils in England, Wales, Scotland? Put the heat on them. Make them produce their records, finances, expenditures. And then do this for agencies, govt offices, etc. Talking does nothing. We do this here in America. Its YOUR country and money.<br />
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<p>@edmundblackaddercoc8522<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Depends on what you request as to whether or not you&#8217;ll recieve the information. If you request information that is &#8216;sensitive&#8217; they just send you a message saying &#8216;not in the public interest&#8217; and that&#8217;s the end of it, we&#8217;re being blocked at every turn.<br />
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<p>@NoNeed2No<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Lewis Brackpool has been really good on this, he&#8217;s a citizen journalist who makes frequent FOIA requests.<br />
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<p>@raymondwoods2304<br />
12 days ago<br />
Restore will not harm Reform as Reform is merging with the Uniparty (so leaving the Right/Centre for Restore). Reform is harming Reform because Reform is engineered to fail.</p>
<p>@INCOMING-UK<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Israeli&#8217;s are leaving the promised land by boat, they are heading for European countries to claim asylum.<br />
How many are Farage, lowe, Robinson and the flag shaggers willing to take into their homes. Are you going to give them mobile phones, cars and cash ?<br />
Will Rupert and Nigel welcome their votes ?</p>
<p>@Michealst1<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
All seems simply basic stuff&#8230;&#8230;Vote Restore&#8230;.VVOVV Mark has it all vvorked out sounds real good to me.</p>
<p>@ThomasBoyd-r7l<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Has Labour government England London tighten up asylum seekers yes it old Thatcher conservative governments immigration policy Thomas it Home office they forced into by England. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.<br />
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<p>@juliemathews5115<br />
8 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s kaballah<br />
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<p>@dandoc5160<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
every 5 minutes there&#8217;s an advert ffs<br />
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<p>@benjaminchadwick3749<br />
6 days ago<br />
Brilliant <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> great interview Mark speaks so much sense..If most the normies could watch this especially the Israel bit it would change so many minds&#8230;No wonder the Jews hate him<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
Great interviewer too letting him speak, asking great awkward questions no one else seems to ask..Great stuff&#8230;.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
6 days ago<br />
Thank you kindly <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
More to come..</p>
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<p>@paulreader7353<br />
9 days ago<br />
You missed a group there<br />
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<p>@ThomasBoyd-r7l<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
You going to hustings Glasgow Anniesland yes April 14 6.30 to 8 o&#8217;clock <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. Brilliant content. Edinburgh parliament yes 34 politicians lose their seats jobs. Reform uk party that gained politically. Third place in Scotland politically.</p>
<p>@parade1996<br />
6 days ago<br />
Mark collett the state asset.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
6 days ago<br />
Evidence?</p>
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<p>@Jimmy-i9g2s<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
If I click the subscribe button it will unsubscribe me! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Thats odd</p>
<p>@KingHumphrey<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@DMLaments He&#8217;s saying he&#8217;s already a subscriber. Please turn your brain on.<br />
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<p>@PompeyfcPUP1898<br />
13 days ago<br />
Simon Tomlin doesn&#8217;t hate everyone he likes Dean Neil, the traditionalbricklayer. Mark also has a dislike for nick Griffin. Not taking sides, I like both of them.<br />
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<p>@dd7521<br />
13 days ago<br />
He seems to hate most though.<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
Tomlin only likes Dean Neil &#8211; so that&#8217;s just ONE person &#8211; everyone else he hates &#8211; Laws, Collett , Lowe etc etc. He has even started having a go at young Charlie Downes and Connor Tomlinson who is not even a spokesman for Restore. When I first came across Tomlin on YT he seemed good but his constant punching right is getting so obsessive and repetitive that I can no longer watch him. Tomlin clearly imagines that he should be the great leader of the right &#8211; maybe the fact that he can&#8217;t get on with anyone would have something to do with it! Mark by contrast has forged alliances with a number of people on the Right and he is not the only one to be critical of Griffin&#8217;s leadership style so he is not alone in that.<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01 He offers a paid subscription to &#8220;remigration action&#8221; which entails people handing out leaflets on remigration&#8230;truly a mastermind of politics. Let&#8217;s not forget his little plot to takeover the BNP by flooding it with members which went NOWHERE, and was doomed to fail.<br />
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<p>@PompeyfcPUP1898<br />
11 days ago<br />
​@MayeDaye01to be fair Connor went to israel, I wonder if he kissed the wall? Lowe has also said in a x post a year or so ago that we must defend israel. Im wary of a lot of these people.<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago (edited)<br />
I went off him a while back and I was there since probably his first video, every accusation he dishes out is more like an admission&#8230;not to mention his fake &#8220;hunted by the police stories&#8221; which just exist to make him sound more edgy and interesting. Not to mention his &#8220;I have secret information that will come out soon&#8221; regarding Nick Tenconi which was just a free to view searchlight article on Nick&#8217;s sex life&#8230;Genuine, pure, grade A bullshitter. Oh yeah, I still have a screenshot of a comment he deleted where someone criticised his merch for being made in the third world.<br />
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<p>@gman0068<br />
13 days ago<br />
57:57 who was that <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@John-d5y2d<br />
6 days ago<br />
99.9%</p>
<p>@parjau4554<br />
6 days ago<br />
Re: &#8220;Jews&#8221; wanting all the immigration. Admittedly, this is sort of true but the reality is these are just left wing, mostly atheist, liberals who happen to be born Jewish. Actual Jews do NOT want that!! For a very good reason.<br />
The most important thing for real Jews is Israel. And right now, Israel generally has the support of powerful, armed Western Nations. But mass immigration to the West is mostly coming from Muslim countries which means that the demographics are changing such that in a few years, there will be many Muslims in society and in power. And this huge number of Muslims will influence these Western countries to do what? TO TURN AGAINST ISRAEL. And without Western support, Israel will be bombed out of existence! So, No. Real Jews do NOT want mass immigration!<br />
And BTW, Israel is not a Jewish ethno-state in the way you said. It is 20% Muslim. And these Arab Muslims are full Israeli Citizens.</p>
<p>@puddlestoo1<br />
14 hours ago<br />
I don&#8217;t get it. Why would Israel not want any western nation to be an ethno state? With many slowly becoming Islamic states where does that benefit Israel? I would say it does the opposite as their enemy (Islam) would now have acquired nuclear weapons! Makes no sense.</p>
<p>@jamestower4473<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
The opposite is happening<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Which part?<br />
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<p>@tancreddehauteville764<br />
13 days ago<br />
The only issue I have with Rupert Lowe is that he gives the impression of being a gin soaked golf club Tory. He needs a decent, ordinary guy, with a good brain, from a lower middle class or upper working class background to work alongside him and push some of the economic policies to the left, in order to attract white working class voters, especially women. We cannot win without women&#8217; support.<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago<br />
millions of working class people voted for boris johnson over the socialist &#8220;down to earth&#8221; corbyn<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
Working class people don&#8217;t care about what class you are if they like your policies &#8211; they all flocked to Farage back in the day didn&#8217;t they! By all accounts Downes and Pitt are more economically to the left than Lowe as a lot of zoomers are anyway so that solves that one.<br />
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<p>@DebbiejBurgess<br />
12 days ago<br />
Lowe is a fraud</p>
<p>@Multiverse82<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yeah I don’t wanna spend the afternoon with him but I want him to restore Britain. Your point is insinuating people aren’t intelligent enough to vote for the policies he’s offering.</p>
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<p>@matthewbazeley2984<br />
4 days ago (edited)<br />
Britain had no division before mass immigration?? Don&#8217;t make laugh. The class system is incredibly prejudiced and it&#8217;s the elite that gave us mass immigration.<br />
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<p>@Natalya.57.Volkova<br />
2 days ago<br />
And that is how you dilute relevant discussions allowing enemies to change the subject and win, congratulations <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@matthewbazeley2984<br />
2 days ago<br />
And that is how you throw toys out of the pram. Maybe take a nap?<br />
If facts and accuracy allow your enemies to win then you are not on the side of truth</p>
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<p>@DuruttiVisca<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Rupert Lowe is a Zionist so not a nationalist<br />
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<p>@vincemarshall8550<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I haven&#8217;t heard him say that but I did ask him if there was any Zionist financial backing of restore and got no answer<br />
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<p>@Lothnar5070<br />
6 days ago<br />
Making up crap without evidence is weak. Maybe you can also accuse Santa claus with the same bullshit?<br />
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<p>@ianoliver3779<br />
10 hours ago<br />
too many adverts on this channel.</p>
<p>@DJAA21M<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
What about an english man with an asian wife?</p>
<p>@Robin-Chats<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
RUPERT LOWES Restore Britain <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> will make it easier for foreign spouses to come here.. it’s a policy he’s talked about.<br />
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<p>@DJAA21M<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @Robin-Chats Is it?</p>
<p>@DC3RejuvationGB<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​@DJAA21M it&#8217;s always about me me it&#8217;s , our island and our Eth are being at risk of gn cdcd and you say what about my Asian wiffe<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f926-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🤦‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DJAA21M<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @DC3RejuvationGB Yea you got a problem with that, I have a right to know?</p>
<p>@DJAA21M<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @DC3RejuvationGB I agree with Mark Collett and Rupert Lowe, I am against globalism, I am a nationalist in that I think all nations should be sovereign and embrace their culture, I wouldn&#8217;t go to my wife&#8217;s country expecting them to adapt to me or expect their way of life declining and their race being replaced, my wife doesn&#8217;t expect that here, she was happy to see the union jacks and george crosses being put up everywhere but you have to understand my family is my priority so I need to know about that before I support something, otherwise that would be irresponsible of me wouldn&#8217;t it, you clearly don&#8217;t give a sh!t about the many people in my situation so get off your high horse<br />
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<p>@tyronekelly-e6z<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I think what Tracy means is there are no organized grape gangs from the Philippines or Thailand or Japan operating in the UK, but there is obviously a problem with organized grape g@ngs operating all around the UK from other Asian &#8220;communities&#8221; that are so protected by the state we cannot even mention the ethnicity of said groups but here is a clue it starts with Pak and ends with stani<br />
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<p>@DJAA21M<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @tyronekelly-e6z I agree with that but I want to know is my family safe in Mark Collett&#8217;s or Rupert Lowe&#8217;s vision of Britain?<br />
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<p>@tyronekelly-e6z<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
That&#8217;s what divorce courts are for<br />
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<p>@francesaquatech3696<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @tyronekelly-e6z <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago<br />
All you need to know about Collet is that he recommended Mein Kampf as a must book to read in an interview.<br />
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<p>@Lion-Roar1<br />
12 days ago<br />
My struggle in German. Your point is?<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@Lion-Roar1 I don&#8217;t really care if you think you have any relation to Germany, I don&#8217;t have a particular point here to make..I simply wish to inform people.</p>
<p>@Lion-Roar1<br />
12 days ago<br />
​@Purp00000<br />
Your totally irrelevant in my world also.<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@Lion-Roar1 The contents of Mein Kampf and the context of why Collet reccomended it is also irrelevant it seems.</p>
<p>@ooWodensEyeoo<br />
7 days ago<br />
​@Purp00000 Seems like you got ratiod on a centrist channel.. The people are starting to break their shakles.</p>
<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago (edited)<br />
Would you have an opinion on The Communist Manifesto? Genuinely curious<br />
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<p>@Lion-Roar1<br />
12 days ago<br />
​ @DMLaments<br />
Why should I?</p>
<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago<br />
​@Lion-Roar1it shows the mindset of a Marxist</p>
<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago<br />
@DMLaments The Communists are wrong because historical materialism outside of a few select and specific class analysis situations is utterly stupid and inapplicable. It assumes that if you restructure economic relations, human nature will obediently follow. I can&#8217;t really give you a whole analysis but that in particular stuck with me. Should you read it? Maybe, I read it to better understand Marxism which I am opposed to.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago (edited)<br />
​@Purp00000I&#8217;ve read both books, just for the record.<br />
I understand Hitlers book getting the flack it does but I dont think it should be banned, or not talked about etc<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago<br />
@DMLaments Me too I agree, books should not be banned. But it&#8217;s not like he recommended this book for the purpose of historical insight. He does it because he is a Neo-Nazi &#8211; and make of that what you will. I just wish he would stop the deception and just say what he is. That type of thing makes me dislike someone. Dishonesty in politics is never good.</p>
<p>@DMLaments<br />
12 days ago<br />
​@Purp00000when was politics last honest?<br />
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<p>@Row1and<br />
9 days ago<br />
mark the mi5 agent<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
9 days ago<br />
Evidence?<br />
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<p>@MagicEZvil<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
He has not called out Nigel Farage for the Grifter he is. Not to be trusted. HIs words do not match the reality of the Reform Policy &#8211; &#8216;Say what is popular to get into power&#8217;.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Somehow, I dont think Mark is part of Reform UK..<br />
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<p>@anniestephenson6296<br />
9 days ago<br />
Oh , please return the wealth that’s been stolen for the last 400yrs .</p>
<p>@VincentComet-l8e<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Surely, rather than aiming at non-British people, shouldn&#8217;t the criteria be whether they have skills we need, will work productively, and also have a Western mindset and want to integrate into our way of life?<br />
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<p>@dd7521<br />
13 days ago<br />
5% would cover that.<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
The bottom line is we need to be at least 95% in order to maintain ourselves as a majority. The emphasis will be on training our own. If we do need some foreigners with very high skills in the interim then they will be included in the 5%. The &#8220;integration&#8221; fairy tale clearly hasn&#8217;t worked and people need to be weaned off that story.<br />
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<p>@VincentComet-l8e<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
Yes, I certainly agree that we have to do whatever is needed, in order to maintain ourselves as the clear majority demographic&#8230;</p>
<p>@julieobrien8252<br />
2 days ago<br />
What about teaching the needed skills within our education system by making said system work in our favour rather than political indoctrination tripe? Then in a fairly short time the skills needed would be more home grown. Is that not reasonable?<br />
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<p>@VincentComet-l8e<br />
2 days ago<br />
@julieobrien8252<br />
Of course, home grown talent is far preferable.<br />
But our &#8216;education&#8217; system is far from perfect and/or functional.<br />
And firmly captured by the Left.</p>
<p>@julieobrien8252<br />
2 days ago<br />
​ @VincentComet-l8e let&#8217;s hope the education system is reclaimed to fulfill its proper purpose for the long term prosperity of England.</p>
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<p>@g.a.m.b.i<br />
7 days ago<br />
Marks not english, the plum<br />
is Italian buahahahaha<br />
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<p>@JohnCollins1981<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Maybe there is a compromise on this?</p>
<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
There is no middle ground,we either get the demographic replacement to stop or we die out that&#8217;s your choice<br />
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<p>@Mazen7600<br />
12 days ago<br />
Mark, you have all my respect and admiration!! You always say the things that I think about <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f1-1f1e7.png" alt="🇱🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270c-1f3fc.png" alt="✌🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
2 weeks ago (edited)<br />
Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn&#8217;t attend due to sickness but he wouldn&#8217;t return them their money.<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago (edited)<br />
Tomlin is always reciting fairy stories about everyone &#8211; so I wouldn&#8217;t believe what he says.<br />
As for the donation you mentioned &#8211; the events do not have entrance fees &#8211; so if someone donates to help set up and organise the event and then doesn&#8217;t attend it is not like they bought a ticket &#8211; ie the money has been donated for and spent setting up the event so why should it be refunded? Tommy Robinson for example asks for donations to help with setting up his rallies &#8211; I doubt if anyone would get the donation back if they asked as the donation is to help with setting it up not attending.<br />
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<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01 Except that at the time it was not conducted in this manner.</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
11 days ago<br />
@jackdoe4632 You are being very vague -there are really only two types of events in politics &#8211; as I said marches and rallies which don&#8217;t have entrance fees or tickets anyway so as I said if people donate to help with setting it up they can&#8217;t expect to get a refund just because they don&#8217;t attend and if it was actually something in the style of a party conference then tickets like that are never refundable &#8211; if you can&#8217;t attend a Tory conference or Reform conference or whatever you would not be refunded.</p>
<p>@jackdoe4632<br />
11 days ago</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
Mark Collet is on record as saying his is an entirely different genre of politics to mainstream parties.<br />
However, according to what you are saying, there is common ground between him and them when it comes to money eh?<br />
Take note I use the word money and not &#8220;donations&#8221; because there is a wide gulf, fixed, between the two.<br />
He has cheated far too many fellow nationalists. Far too many times he has treated them with contempt where money is concerned as well as backstabbing one who passed away but he&#8217;s not alone in that.<br />
At least now, it&#8217;s out in the open. Exactly where he doesn&#8217;t want it to be.</p>
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<p>@franitfcful<br />
2 days ago (edited)<br />
There&#8217;s also Palestinians living in Israel approx 2.1 million research it ! As for knocking Tommy Robinson when you can muster 2 million people behind you then come back to us &#8230;when you spend most of your life including solitary confinement in prison for speaking up then best you stop the hate towards him .I hope this man can walk down the street safely without fear of being killed like Tommy faces every day of his life</p>
<p>@Veyron1967<br />
9 days ago<br />
Was with this guy until he said Israel was an ethno-state &#8211; it has two million Arab Palestinians living and working there. Or that it never gets sanctioned &#8211; it is the most sanctioned nation on the face of the earth &#8211; mostly by the 56 Muslim countries in the UN known as the OIC.<br />
Advice: Israel has nothing to do with our governments policies. Once you invoke Israel or joos more moderate Brits will tune out.<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
9 days ago<br />
So people will tune out because they hear someones ideas they disagree with and or dislike?<br />
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<p>@Veyron1967<br />
8 days ago<br />
@DMLaments it’s not hard mate, he’s advocating for a more indigenous England, so why bring Israel into it at all? He is diluting the message and giving the ‘refugees welcome’ brigade an opportunity to attack something irrelevant to the argument.<br />
Mass immigration in the UK is the problem, not Israel. People can see what is happening to our high streets so keep the message simple.<br />
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<p>@DMFS7<br />
12 days ago<br />
Agree with most of what Mark says but he talks absolute bollocks about Tommy Robinson being paid millions of pounds by Israel! Too bad he wasn&#8217;t asked for evidence of that claim just to see the arm waving (he doesn&#8217;t have any).<br />
Also, he is being very disingenuous when he whinges about being cancelled and debanked without mentioning the &#8220;Young, Nazi, and Proud&#8221;.documentary in which he &#8220;starred&#8221;: it is the main reason that he is considered by many to be beyond the pale. It&#8217;s a shame because it was decades ago and we all change a lot in 20 years, but there it is and let&#8217;s not pretend it isn&#8217;t still tainting him.<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago<br />
he&#8217;s a loud mouthed fool</p>
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<p>@blueberrycheesecakesupremo<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I wish Mark would just go away. He stinks so bad. I agree with most of what he says but he is repellent to most human beings. Please don&#8217;t support Restore because you will put people off voting for them. This is our last chance man. Please stop talking.<br />
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<p>@dd7521<br />
13 days ago<br />
Why does he &#8221;stink so bad&#8221; especially when you say you agree with most he said?<br />
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<p>@blueberrycheesecakesupremo<br />
13 days ago<br />
@dd7521 I&#8217;ve been watching Mark since he was leader of the young BNP and he has been caught several times genuinely supporting an Austrian painter. People are desperately trying to paint Restore with the same brush and we don&#8217;t need to give them any ammo. If we want to get any real power we need to get the support of the general public and the truth is that Mark is to toxic for most people. He needs to step aside. If we don&#8217;t get this right this time we are finished. I want my country back and I don&#8217;t want someone like Mark messing it up.<br />
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<p>@dd7521<br />
13 days ago<br />
​ @blueberrycheesecakesupremo fair enough, thanks for your reply.<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
@blueberrycheesecakesupremo He is only &#8220;toxic&#8221; because the liberal media want to continue the narrative &#8211; haven&#8217;t you learned that by now? You say you agree with most of what he says but then talk about the &#8220;general public&#8221; as though you are not part of the general public yourself! The &#8220;general public&#8221; are waking up and going further to the patriotic right<br />
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<p>@Purp00000<br />
12 days ago</p>
<p>@MayeDaye01 The liberal media did not force Collet to send death threats to Nick Griffin&#8230;</p>
<p>@JohnnyRollocks-v1z<br />
13 days ago<br />
We tried all that with the BNP I personally joined in 1989 been there and done it all still do a few protest now problem with the British people they still listen to scumbag politicians lying main stream media just look at fake farage and his circus<br />
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<p>@blueberrycheesecakesupremo<br />
13 days ago<br />
@JohnnyRollocks-v1z Yeah I know, Farage is a joke<br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
12 days ago<br />
Hes an absalute bell end<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@alpine7891<br />
12 days ago<br />
Well you&#8217;d better get used to it lad cos the people are finally waking up.<br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
12 days ago<br />
​ @alpine7891 are you insecure?</p>
<p>@alpine7891<br />
12 days ago<br />
​ @jamesquinn9971 I can&#8217;t wait! Honestly, it&#8217;s gonna happen, we are going to win and get our country back! Woooohooo<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270a-1f3fb.png" alt="✊🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
12 days ago<br />
​ @alpine7891 youl just be forgoten like nich griffen was <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@JohnWayne-d6y<br />
13 days ago<br />
The problem in the USA is birth right anchor babies&#8230; once they have that birth certificate they are legally American Citizens regardless of where or who they are&#8230; what a mess the Democrats have made<br />
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<p>@PeterFrance707<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Elon, are you listening?<br />
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<p>@IrishScouse10<br />
6 days ago<br />
good man Mark great interview<br />
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Why&#8217;s the doom goblin saying it can&#8217;t be done, he&#8217;s sold his soul.<br />
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<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
To the juice <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f9c3.png" alt="🧃" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@SEKreiver<br />
3 days ago<br />
Collett has been fighting the good fight. Great guest!<br />
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<p>@MrPopeye007<br />
8 days ago<br />
Mark the brave<br />
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<p>@Pacex76<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
If i said what i think should be done id be arrested<br />
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<p>@ArthurShilling-f8c<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Nothing about this should even be considered as unreasonable. In fact, this MUST happen and sooner rather than later. If not, the consequences will be dire.</p>
<p>@VikingSimonStabilis<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ethnonationalist, what does that mean? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
What about the illegals that arrived and where given leave to remain by the home office.<br />
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<p>@BasilGanglia-b7g<br />
13 days ago<br />
I thought he was a young Ronnie Browne from The Corries. LOL!<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
13 days ago<br />
Kenny Rogers <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@lynnescott6842<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
I&#8217;m angloist<br />
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<p>@niallmurray8654<br />
13 days ago<br />
Well I&#8217;m Irish descent born and bred in England and Angloist too<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
12 days ago<br />
To judge other people on the colour of their skin is pathetic<br />
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<p>@Multiverse82<br />
9 days ago<br />
No one is doing that <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f937-200d-2640-fe0f.png" alt="🤷‍♀️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> character and culture. Skin colour doesn’t come into it.<br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
9 days ago<br />
​ @Multiverse82 to judge people because they have a different back ground is pathetic</p>
<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
9 days ago<br />
Britain has always had different peoples coming and going the last 2000 yrs has seen all kinds of people , read some history books pal</p>
<p>@Multiverse82<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
@jamesquinn9971 but to judge people that inflict harm on others is valid. So your argument is pointless. Your saying we should accept harm and abuse just because if we don’t it’s prejudice. You need your head checked. Do by your standards if it’s someone’s culture to rape children that can’t be judged? If someone’s character is evil that can’t be judged? Insanity!<br />
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<p>@Multiverse82<br />
8 days ago<br />
@jamesquinn9971 I’m not your pal by any means <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
8 days ago<br />
​ @Multiverse82 are you insecure?</p>
<p>@jamesquinn9971<br />
8 days ago<br />
Did your mummy not love you argh poor boy <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@damthebloodandlandthirsty<br />
8 days ago<br />
small minded little englander &#8211; is he unaware of the brits that emigrated to &#8216;the new world&#8217; &#8211; simply recall anyone with british heritage back = instant 99.9% majority</p>
<p>@WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Mark Collette is rumoured to be a honeytrap operator to get real NationaIists Iocked up . .<br />
I am of the uItra far right spectrum so to speak.. but I would not trust Mark at all, because he isn&#8217;t careful enough.<br />
Please beware of this feIIa because many people say he is dangerous !<br />
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<p>@AliceEngland-n8w<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
There are many of us that actually know Mark, and those rumours are designed to stop anyone listening to him!<br />
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<p>@apollo53122<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
What people need to be mindful of are people like this who go around spreading malicious rumours about others.<br />
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<p>@tyronekelly-e6z<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Simon Tomlin<br />
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<p>@MayeDaye01<br />
12 days ago<br />
@tyronekelly-e6z aka Walter Mitty!<br />
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<p>@aconcernedcitizen6056<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Why are you listening to rumors Mr &#8220;ultra far right&#8221;<br />
Have you met Mark?<br />
Have you ever even attempted to join a real world movement?<br />
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<p>@DMLaments<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Who says that he is dangerous?<br />
Who says he is a &#8220;honeytrap&#8221;?<br />
Im genuinely curious, I haven&#8217;t read that anywhere<br />
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<p>@stevestone4346<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@DMLaments Simon Tomlin. Never shuts up about him.<br />
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<p>@alpine7891<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
How is he getting people locked up? He doesn&#8217;t advocate for those things that Simon has led you to believe.<br />
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<p>@KingHumphrey<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@alpine7891 Tomlin has said, many many times, that people close to Collett keep getting sent down. Sadly, that is true. There&#8217;s Sam Melia, the Longshanks fella and another close friend of Mark&#8217;s whose name escapes me at the minute. Now I&#8217;d argue that these people have done what they did independent of Mark and made their own choices, but it&#8217;s still true that people close to Mark have been sent to prison while him and Nick Griffin both got off and still find themselves free of police intervention. I think that&#8217;s because Mark doesn&#8217;t break the law.<br />
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<p>@alpine7891<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @KingHumphrey I mean, Tommy Robinson has been sent down so should we now believe he is to be trusted and telling the truth <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
It&#8217;s more likely Mark has been careful, but who knows in actual fact. But he seems to be doing a great job in waking people up to real Nationalism. He doesn&#8217;t slander people and certainly doesn&#8217;t punch right and I&#8217;ve never heard him advocate or simp towards NS<br />
And he also tells people to avoid NA.<br />
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<p>@alpine7891<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe Yeah it was a very long time ago mate.. He was young and immature and admits he&#8217;s embarrassed by it. We really should get past that, we&#8217;ve all made mistakes. But he&#8217;s doing more to waking people up to real Nationalism.. Now if only he still had his YouTube channel with 100k followers&#8230;Oh yeah Simons still got his YT and x accounts hasn&#8217;t he.. How strange, makes you wonder <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@alpine7891<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe Exactly mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44a-1f3fb.png" alt="👊🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@PpHT9217<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
​ @KingHumphrey they were locked up prior to being involved with Patriotic Alternative, need to get your facts right<br />
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<p>@ThomasSukhoi<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
Everyone is a fed.<br />
Don’t trust anyone.<br />
It’s hopeless.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Natty and Yuro on the ongoing ZOG war against Iran. Items discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argues the official rationale for attacking Iran mirrors Iraq’s WMD narrative.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Netanyahu has warned for decades that Iran is “weeks/months from a bomb” (since the 1990s). “Weapons of mass destruction” is a discredited Iraq-era euphemism that once sold war.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Uses “Iran nuclear” rather than vague “WMD” because WMD became synonymous with lies!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Daily Mail-type outlets allegedly opposed Iraq in hindsight but now back war on Iran.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The real driver is the “Greater Israel Project,” not nonproliferation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cite prior regime changes/destabilisation: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Reference the Chilcot Inquiry and Tony Blair’s meetings with Israeli figures about “strategy.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel and allied services (CIA/MI6/Mossad) foster regional chaos to weaken opponents.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argue the goal is not simple “regime change,” but long-term destabilisation and failed states.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Links PNAC-era (Project for a New American Century) objectives to multiple Middle East wars.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Western support for Islamist groups in Syria/Libya as instruments of policy.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel supported some anti-Assad factions while decrying terrorism publicly.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“This is about the Greater Israel Project.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Critique “negotiations as cover,” the US uses talks to set up surprise attacks.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“It’s like offering a handshake and then a sucker punch.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Countries will distrust US diplomacy going forward (Russia, China, DPRK, etc.).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Contrast Russia’s restraint in Kiev with alleged Western conduct in Iran.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Denounces assassinations and civilian strikes (e.g., schoolgirls), calling them deliberate. Modern munitions have “sub‑meter accuracy,” so civilian hits are not accidents.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Post-strike online narratives falsely blamed Iranian misfires for civilian deaths.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Attacks on police and civic targets aimed to spur an internal Iranian uprising.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Contrary to that, public rallies in Iran show support for the government has solidified.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Suggests Bahrain could see unrest due to US basing and regional backlash.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discuss information blackouts and asymmetrical reporting (showing Iran failures vs. Israeli success). “We don’t even know what’s real,” citing Telegram sources and censorship claims.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Analysis of US carriers: They say carriers have stayed at greater stand-off ranges due to missile threats.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cite interceptor scarcity and cost vs. Cheap drones/missiles as a potential US/Israeli vulnerability.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The US convened defense industry leaders to surge interceptor production.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Note reports of a US escort ship fire and claim small salvos pushed carriers back (unconfirmed).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Iranian strategy: Conserve advanced weapons; use older SRBMs and cheap drones first.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Iranian cluster munitions now being used against Israel.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Sub‑meter accuracy” and drone saturation are framed as key tactical themes.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Some refinery and base attacks in the Gulf could be false-flag operations to widen war.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">RAF Akrotiri (Cyprus) incident is mentioned; debate over perpetrator (Iran/Hezbollah/false flag).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Strait of Hormuz closure is said to spike oil prices and strain Western economies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict Europe will suffer worse than the US due to energy dependence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Example cited: Heating oil price jumps immediately after events in the Gulf.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Even if it wrapped up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Claims Trump’s popularity is falling; they criticise his “peace ticket” branding.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Call Trump highly philo-semitic and beholden to major donors; they reference Adelson. “Follow the money.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The US acts as Israel’s indispensable backer; Israel is not self-sufficient militarily. “Israel is not invincible.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">October 7 as revealing Israeli vulnerabilities (but debate whether it was “allowed”).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticise UK media figures (e.g., Andrew Neil) and influencers backing intervention.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Highlight a notable US backlash: Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Emphasise Ana Kasparian’s on-Air criticism of Israel as a mainstream shift.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Get Israel out of American politics,” citing applause lines at Turning Point USA.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Ague Russia/China assist Iran quietly (intelligence/satnav), but avoid open confrontation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate on whether Russia/China should or could provide more (e.g., advanced jets, nuclear deterrence).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Deem nuclear use by the US unlikely and strategically pointless (mostly harms civilians).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argue nuclear use would trigger global outrage and unpredictable escalation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict a prolonged conflict benefits Iran’s strategy more than a short, sharp US/Israeli strike.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Oppose Western refugee inflows from new conflicts; warn of demographic consequences for Europe.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Reference Libya’s fall ending Italy–Libya migration controls, spurring 2015 flows.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict 2.5 million displaced from a wider Gulf war, mostly heading to Europe.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">UK politics: Starmer avoids overt escalation to protect the domestic Muslim vote.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Contrast Rupert Lowe’s caution on Israel with demands by critics to force a stance.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Closing view: Asserts the US–Israel axis is the central global destabiliser in their analysis.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody and welcome to tonight’s stream. We’re live on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. And I’ve got a wonderful panel for you here tonight to discuss the big issue of, well, the last week or so, and it’s obviously Trump’s war for Israel or Trump’s war on Iran for Israel, to be more precise.</p>
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<p>Now, the guys I’ve got with me I’ll be introducing shortly. It’s of course Natty and Yuro from the Nationalist A-Team. We’re going to cover some of the things we covered last Sunday quickly. And then we’re going to go deeper into things. Everyone’s going to get roughly an equal time to talk. I’m not going to be putting people on an egg timer, but we’ve probably got nine or ten topics and if everyone puts sort of three, four minutes into each topic, it’ll be about a 90 minute presentation. So stick around. It’s going to be pretty entertaining or at least pretty enlightening.</p>
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<p>Now, the first is of course Natty. You know him from the Nationalist A-Team and also from numerous other streams that he’s done with me in the past. Natty’s a guy that’s been around since the beginning of PA. He’s been to all the meetings, at conferences, camps, etc, and he’s always someone that everyone likes hearing from.</p>
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<p>In fact, I always say that if I had a wingman on PWR, it would be this guy here. Natty, how are you doing, my friend? I hope you are well.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I’m good. I’m enjoying watching Tel Aviv burn. I’m sure we’re gonna talk about the ins and outs of what that means, but yeah, I’m good apart from that it’s been a bit of a crazy week trying to keep up with everything and I think my wife has suffered constantly looking across at me and seeing my face buried in my phone because I’m trying to, I’m monitoring the situation. But yeah, it’s very interesting times.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Do you ever get it where you’re out on the sort of a supposed family event and the wife’s like:</p>
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<p>And you’re like:</p>
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<p>Anyway, we’ve also got Yuro with us tonight. He’s obviously famous because Yuro used to do The Absolute State of Britain podcast.</p>
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<p>And again, he’s a very able wing man. He has been on the National A-Team standing in for Sam. He always has good takes, he’s a funny guy and sometimes I bully him a bit, which is a little unfair, but that’s because I love him and see him as like my little brother, My little brother who needs the odd sort of monkey scrub and jab in the ribs, but he’s like my little brother, so I still love him.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I’m good. I’ve also been keenly paying attention watching Middle East Spectator and other such channels on Telegram. You know, it’s, I think there’s a lot more censorship obviously during the 12 Day War that was going on between Iran and Israel before. It was very much like:</p>
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<p>And it’s just that more. So we see all of Iran’s failures and then some things that’s like disinfo and we see all of Israel’s successes and then some, and some of that’s disinfo. And it’s kind of hard to even know what’s real.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s a good point actually because just briefly, it does seem like the information blackout from Israel was way more intense during the 12 Day War. And it seems like now because of the scope and the breadth of everything, just more is getting through or you’re able to find out more. And I’m sure this isn’t true, if you check the BBC or just some other like ZOG regime outlet, you’re not going to be seeing anything hitting Israel. But that’s what everyone’s interested in. That’s what everyone wants to see. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know, how many hypersonics hit Tel Aviv? This time, you know what US asset has just been blown up by a drone in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or wherever it is. That’s what people are interested in seeing. They want to see the underdog smacking the bully in the mouth. And that’s what happens when a cheap Shahed drone gets through a multi-million dollar interceptor screen and like blows up a THAAD <span style="color: #008000;">[Terminal High Altitude Area Defense]</span> radar system or something. That’s what everyone’s into, right? Everyone wants to see that. No one wants to see like Iranian suburbs being like caught on fire and hit with JDAMs and hit with Tomahawk missiles because that’s just brutal civilian casualties, which is what ZOG <span style="color: #008000;">[Zionist Occupied Government]</span> is good at.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, the funny thing is to see America in this war using the copy of the Iranian kamikaze drones. They’ve got their own basically one to one copy of the Shahed drone that they’ve now rolled out and they’re starting to fire back at the Iranians. Because it was just like the near perfect design that they’re like:</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. You know, for the grand and mighty American empire is reverse engineering Third World brownoid country drones <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that sound like lawnmowers when they’re flying through the sky!</p>
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<p>But yeah, that’s what America’s up to these days. I mean, you can’t really claim it’s the European heritage stock that’s like the most genius country in the world. It’s just not that anymore, I’m afraid, guys.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I agree. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. So and we do actually have just. We do have a little sort of running order as well, tonight. I’m not going to read it out, but I was going to post it actually and say:</p>
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<p>But there’s a lot to discuss and we’re going to go through things from the start. Now we’re going to speed run some of the bits we talked about on the Nationalist A-Team because for anyone who watched the Nationalist A-Team and enjoys it, look, it is a banger of a stream, except for when I get killed by somebody and get upset.</p>
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<p>But other than that! It is a good stream. And if you want to watch it, there’s some takes there. And also there’s the Patriarch there as well who provides quite a lot of good comedy.</p>
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<p>Anyway, so we’re going to start with the wider justification for this because there’s nowhere better to start than the official justification. Now, I’ve seen these videos where Netanyahu, they’re sort of like compilation videos of every time Netanyahu is claimed that Iran is sort of five months, five weeks, you know, two years from getting the atomic bomb. And he’s been doing this, believe it or not, for over 30 years!</p>
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<p>So the first example I’ve seen of Netanyahu saying that Iran is just moments away from like nuclear weapon capability was actually all the way back in 1995. And the reason that’s interesting, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, no <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> battalion!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Wiffle bat to give you a spanking. Right. So these fake nuclear claims that are interesting for two reasons.</p>
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<p>Firstly, because they are blatantly fake! It’s been, to my knowledge, 31 years. And Yuro does make, &#8230; Look to Yuro’s credit, he makes a very good point. You know, the idea that this has been going on longer than some of the people on these American battleships have been alive is incredible!</p>
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<p>But one thing that struck me immediately with this was I remember living through the time of the Iraq war. And at the time of the Iraq war, Weapons of Mass Destruction became one of the most maligned phrases to have ever been used in British Parliament, to the point that where if you now say “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>”, it’s sort of synonymous with war crimes, lies and a regime that took us into what was essentially an illegal war. You know, there was no Weapons of Mass Destruction.</p>
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<p>But one thing that shocks me is this is the kind of thing where people just seem to have either forgotten this or put it to one side.</p>
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<p>So the Daily Mail is a classic example of this. The Daily Mail is sort of the populist Right-wing, you know, vote Reform, consider voting Conservative newspaper. And they were all against Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction and exposing his lies and speaking out about it once it was exposed via the Chilcot inquiry.</p>
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<p>But now the Daily Mail, like:</p>
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<p>And you’ve got all these shill commenters in the sections underneath the Daily Mail articles in the comment sections, and they’re all saying things like:</p>
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<p>And I don’t know whether these are real people, idiot Boomer types or that’s not all Boomers. But you know, the sort. I mean the kind of person that says:</p>
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<p>Those sort. Is it one of them or is it a shill account?</p>
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<p>But I think it’s really interesting that exactly the same justification for the attack is being used, as was used in Iraq. But the Iraq, War retrospectively is possibly the most maligned conflict and the conflict seen as the most unjust conflict. Probably post World War II. I’d have said that would have gone to Vietnam at one point, but Iraq seems to have, maybe because it’s more recent, seems to have eclipsed that.</p>
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<p>So what do you guys think?</p>
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<p>We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously this is what they’re saying and we’re going to discuss next the real reason and what we think the real reason is. But what do you think to this sort of fake reasoning for going to war?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, just listening to you there, I haven’t done this because I was just reminded by what you said. But I’m fairly certain if you went back to the 2000s and had a look at the lead up to the Iraq war, you, amongst the Daily Mail articles, you wouldn’t find opposition to the actual war itself, because none of these publications were really opposed to it in any meaningful way and certainly weren’t like trying to rally people against the war. So you know, post Iraq war when everyone was kind of saying what disaster it was, I’m sure the Daily Mail were jumping on board that.</p>
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<p>But as even now publications that you would think would be against the war in Iran are kind of talking around the edge of it whilst not decrying the war and certainly not being like anti-war, like proper anti-war publications and laying out all the connections between the Epstein regime and the people connecting in it like Mandelson and like Boris Johnson and Tony Blair and all the rest of it.</p>
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<p>But yeah, it’s striking. I mean, one of the things I put in the chat earlier was that before this happened. Well, okay, let’s let me take it back a little bit. Before Iraq, the reason why the term “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>” became such a big thing is because the media and the government, Blair’s regime spent so much time and energy trying to get public approval for it, because they felt like, they obviously felt like they needed it. They needed a justification. They needed something to sell to the British people as to why it was a good idea, why it was necessary to go into Iraq.</p>
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<p>Now that just hasn’t happened this time. Because I think they understand that the forces controlling the “<em>Epstein Empire</em>” as people are calling it, which is fairly apt, simply are not in the shadows anymore. You know, this stuff has been laid out. Israel is pulling the strings and it’s pulling the strings of America and it’s America’s pulling the strings of Europe because essentially Europe is just a colony of the United States. So they don’t feel they need to justify it so much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, obviously there’s like regime mouthpieces and stoolies like Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray, the Daily Mail and all the rest of it, who are now going out there and running cover and trying to make this war popular or make it so that it seems like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, it’s not a job any of us want to do, but it’s necessary and we need to do this for stability and peace!”</span></h3>
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<p>But I just don’t think the public are buying it. And the public for the most part didn’t buy it with Iraq, but that doesn’t stop that happening. And they’re not buying it with Iran either.</p>
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<p>But there hasn’t been a groundswell of opposition to it in the same way as Iraq because they haven’t spent so long trying to justify it. And for a lot of people this just came out the blue. Not for anyone who’s kind of a properly dissident to the kind of Epstein Empire. This didn’t come out of the blue. This was fairly predictable. But probably just for your average person sitting at home and getting on with life, this kind of immediate blow up in the Middle East, where oil prices are about to skyrocket, petrol prices creeping up and we’re probably about to experience an energy crisis, just came out straight out of the blue! And the justifications, unlike Iraq, are all post hoc. They, it wasn’t a media build up to a war, it’s like a media cover plot after the war has started.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> What I find interesting as well is as you say, with the Iraq thing, there was a lot of build up and there was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let’s get the UN involved, let’s condemn them, let’s build a coalition, let’s get Britain involved.”</span></h3>
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<p>But the other thing is they never said Iraq has a nuke. It was always this nebulous “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>”. And it’s kind of like the, well, we’re going to say that they have Weapons of Mass Destruction and that’s like we will say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, actually they have chemical weapons which we’re going to classify as Weapons of Mass Destruction. And we’re going to hope that we can gin that up in people’s minds to be like, ‘Oh, they have a nuclear weapon’.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We won’t explicitly state they have a nuclear weapon. We’ll just try and make people think they have a nuclear weapon.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then there was the thing about:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They can strike us in 45 minutes with their Weapons of Mass Destruction!”</span></h3>
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<p>But now they just come out and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They’re building a nuke!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s not Weapons of Mass Destruction. And as you say, that’s because the term is just completely lost all validity. You know, people at the moment, they hear that, they just know it’s Iraq, War 2. But they’re not even like trying to do that lesser thing.</p>
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<p>It’s kind of like what they do with racism, where you’ve got like the small definition and the big definition. The Weapons of Mass Destruction is like what they do with racism.</p>
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<p>So if you’re a “<em>racist</em>”, it’s like you just think that different people are different and you care about your own people. Well, that’s a racist. But the moment you get labelled a racist, it’s like you’re a “<em>supremacist who wants to murder everyone who’s not you</em>”. Well, the Weapons of Mass Destruction is chemical weapons could be a weapon of mass destruction, but the moment you get labelled with that, all of a sudden:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ve got nukes, you’re dangerous!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And the 45 minute claim was like, they can hit the tip of Cyprus. If they drive a Scud launcher right to the edge of the Iraqi border and fire it, they might just be able to hit Cyprus! And that was translated into British headlines as “<em>British territory</em>”. Yeah:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They can hit us in 45 minutes! Oh my God, the sky’s falling!”</span></h3>
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<p>And the reality was, it was Scud missiles and some Sarin gas artillery shells which have a range of about 10 or 15 kilometers, which they used in Halabja <span style="color: #008000;">[1988 against Kurds]</span> apparently. I mean, we saw, I, we got trained on that in the CBRA regiment of what happened in Halabja with the Sarin gas shells. But that was passed into, like you said, Weapons of Mass Destruction. Very nebulous. Well, not easy to disseminate term, but very little detail and very little meaning. And you could say to people:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, they’ve got Scud launches on trucks which can fly however many kilometers it is, and they’ve got some Sarin gas shells.”</span></h3>
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<p>But these, in terms of where the United Kingdom is and the rest of Europe, these are absolutely meaningless! And again, it was just to justify the Greater Israel Project and take out one of Israel’s enemies and destroy one of Israel’s enemies.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, I was having to think about this before we started this stream. And I said to myself, you know:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is one state, there is a rogue state in the Middle East that has Weapons of Mass Destruction.”</span></h3>
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<p>And by that I mean a boatload of actual nuclear weapons. And they have the capability of targeting Britain, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> And if rumours are to be believed, then the Samson Option is a real thing and Israel is the lunatic state that has no compunction about using these things. Now, I don’t know if that’s a real thing or whether that’s just something that gets disseminated to scare everyone.</p>
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<p>But you’ve got to remember the only people who have used nukes as an actual weapon of war against living targets is the Epstein Regime in the Second World War. And I don’t separate the people who are running America now from those people. I mean, it’s the same group of people.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If you look at the way that they behave on the world stage, the way that they behave against the Palestinians, the way that they behave against the Iranians, it wouldn’t be out of character for them to just lash out at everyone else for “<em>not defending them hard enough</em>”. But according to the publicly available information, they have intercontinental ballistic missiles with a range of 11 and a half thousand kilometers, which basically means they can hit everywhere on the planet with the exception of kind of east Australia, New Zealand and some bits of South America.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> So those parts of South America where all the Nazis fled to, so unfortunately they <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> can’t touch them!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> The parts where Javier Milei, who’s converted to Judaism, is currently in charge.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh no!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And they might also not be able to quite hit Mexico where (((Claudia Sheinbaum))) is in charge.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Oh, dear! Well, talking about the control that jews wield, let’s talk about what we think is the real reason for this.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m going to go straight out and say it. I believe the real reason for this is the Greater Israel Project. I think the Greater Israel Project is something that has gathered pace in the last few years, especially under Trump. We’ve seen the attacks on Gaza, we’ve seen the attacks on Lebanon. We’ve seen the fall of the Syrian regime, which was obviously heavily influenced by Israel, who were helping Islamic terrorists in the region. You know, the head chopper ones that we’re told are the great threat to peace and justice and decency, yet Israel is actually supporting those people!</p>
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<p>And we’ve also seen Israel be involved in the fall of other regimes. Israel were famously involved. And this came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. I actually did a video on this. Israel were very famously involved with meeting, &#8230; And Tony Blair admitted this under oath in the Chilcot Inquiry. He met influential jewish leaders from the then current Israeli regime. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The meetings had nothing to do with military intelligence. They had everything to do with overall strategy and long term goals.”</span></h3>
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<p>So take that as you will. But I’m taking that as they were heavily involved in getting rid of Saddam Hussein.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:24]</span></p>
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<p>And I think it’s obviously within Israel’s interest to topple almost every sovereign regime in the region. And they do this quite openly. They are doing it more openly now. They’re getting away with it, sadly. And this is a blatant example of that. Although they’ve loosely talked about the nuke thing, like we said, Natty did make an important point that they felt it’s less necessary to sell this like they sold the Iraq, War. And in some interviews, members of the American regime have simply said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, we just want to kill these people. We want to kill them, we want to take them out. This is about regime change. This is about Israel.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I believe it was Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It was Israel who forced our hand. They began this and we are there to defend them and assist them. So when they began the attacks, we were forced into going along with it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Now, Trump then furiously denied this, but it’s a very interesting admission from Marco Rubio.</p>
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<p>So I think this is all about the Greater Israel Project. And I believe that has been the driving force or the driving ideology behind the destabilisation of the Middle East.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, totally! And it kind of behooves me to say this and to get people to realise that whereas we’re living kind of day to day and prices of things go up and you’re worried about your children. We’ve been totally separated from any idea of our history and our lineage and where we’ve come from and where we might be going.</p>
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<p>So it’s kind of hard to understand for us the jewish mindset. And this is a plan that’s been in the making for a very long time, years, decades, where once Israel was created and they have a vision of the Greater Israel Project. There’s a whole, there’s a list of countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt. And through various machinations, they’ve all been, one by one, they’ve been taken out or pacified. Egypt is basically paid off by the United States and is under the sway of Israel, has a border with Israel, but it doesn’t do anything about their genociding of the Palestinians and the destabilising and eventual collapse of the Syrian state. What happened in Libya with Gaddafi ending up with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street, and the subsequent flooding of Europe with migrants, which is a kind of side issue we can get onto if you want. But all of this, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ve got that further down the line, mate, that comes at the end, if you look at the show notes, I’ve actually said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, what are the actual repercussions for this, both for the West and for the Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s one of the things we will talk about.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, for sure. And it’s clear now, I mean, in my opinion and the opinion of other people who have been following this, that the reason Trump was so heavily pushed into a second term was that the people who are running him and the jews in Israel believe that he was the best chance of getting this done. You know, this final push to topple Iran, which basically gets rid of the last bastion of resistance to Israel. And you’ve got to think:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, why is Israel so hell bent on getting rid of people who resist them?”</span></h3>
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<p>You think, well, the people who are opposing them, the only real people who are opposing them, committing genocide in Gaza, Europe was on board with it. The United States was supplying them with bombs and had carrier groups in the Mediterranean. The United Kingdom, our own government, was flying surveillance flights over Gaza and letting Cyprus be used as a refueling and an air base for Israel. So Europe was aiding in the genocide in Gaza.</p>
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<p>And it was only Hezbollah and you know, funded via Iran that was really attacking, and the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were attacking Israel and trying to hold them account for genociding the Gazan people. And that’s unacceptable for Israel to have that resistance in the region, even though the attacks on it are totally justified and being used as like, defense against people who are being hurt and destroyed in this like, brutal way by this lunatic, lunatic group of people who have been squatting on the edge of a Mediterranean.</p>
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<p>So the justifications the real justification is the toppling of Iran as a coherent state. And I’ll touch on this before I pass this over to Yuro. But there’s talk of regime change. You know, that’s what they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re trying to enact regime change here.”</span></h3>
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<p>But that isn’t quite true. They’re not really interested in a regime swap where they swap one regime for another. What they’re interested in is total destabilisation! Just like with Syria, just like with Iraq, just like with Libya, where these are just failed states with tribal warlords with like Mossad and CIA run groups running around HTS, ISIS, all of these people. Which means no coherent defense, no missile bases, no civil defense, nothing! Just a load of groups that you can pay this group to fight this group and you know, you can pay these guys or stop paying these guys and just let chaos reign while Israel just expands and expands and expands and gets to do what it wants.</p>
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<p>You know, kind of reminiscent, I’ll just finish on this. Kind of reminiscent to how if you import millions and millions of foreign people into a small island nation, it also becomes destabilised and coherent resistance or coherent defense or coherent politics kind of become very difficult and a very well motivated minority can rule the lot! So there’s your answer as to the real reasons for this war.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> A few things I wanted to pick up on there. Just as Mark was speaking, you kept using the term “<em>regime</em>”. And that’s like one of those MKUltra trigger words that they’ve put in people’s minds that like “<em>regime is bad, regime is authoritarian, evil government</em>”. It was all it was always the “<em>Saddam regime</em>” and the “<em>Iran regime</em>”. They’re just governments. They’re a different form of government. You know some of them are more or less Democratic than others, but it’s like this regime thing is a trigger word. And along that same lines, Natty, you mentioned the Houthis as “<em>rebels</em>”. I think the ones that we call Houthis are pretty much just the government of Yemen now. I mean, and they have pockets of what’s left of the people that they overthrew. But they’re basically just the government of Yemen. They’re not rebels anymore. They’re not a regime, they’re just that government.</p>
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<p>But obviously this was all part of a plan. This is something that they’ve been going at for a very long time. They had the Project for a New American Century <span style="color: #008000;">[PNAC]</span> where they said we want to hit like seven countries in 10 years. And they’ve basically got all of them.</p>
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<p>I mean, they wanted to get Iraq, they wanted to get Syria, they wanted to get Libya, and of course it’s neocon jews behind it all.</p>
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<p>So that’s been happening for a very long time. There’s a reason why they caught a bunch of jewish Israelis dancing on 911*, already filming before the first plane went into those towers. They were dancing around, they were happy because they knew that was the excuse that they needed to start their own genocidal campaign. And it’s like dominoes falling. They get this one, then they get that one. And I mean, what happens to Libya? He, Gaddafi, gave up his weapons, chemical weapons and things like that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* 9/11: A false flag carried out by ZOG with Israel being the lead behind its planning and execution. The aim was to unleash the War OF Terror on the countries around Israel, among other aims. See See Also links below, especially the work by Christopher Bollyn.]</span></p>
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<p>And as soon as they were gone, they were like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right, well he’s defenseless, we can go in there and kill him now!”</span></h3>
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<p>So that’s what they proceeded to do.</p>
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<p>And the other thing as well, like looking at what they’re doing to Iran, I mean, you talked about them wanting to destabilise them. As far as I understand, because they can’t really hit these military targets. They don’t know exactly where all the underground bases are and where they’re being launched from. So they’re targeting, I mean, apart from like primary schools for girls and things like that, which they do just because they’re evil and want to blow up kids when they’re not abusing kids in other ways, they’re just like targeting police stations and things like that. Just like blow up all the police stations in the country and hope it destabilises that way!</p>
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<p>And of course they had this gayop a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they tried to incite some sort of terrorist uprising in Iran and that failed.</p>
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<p>And obviously they wanted to coincide these two things at the same time.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> But I was going to say that was obviously hilariously mistimed. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Right? So they fermented this terrorist uprising and meanwhile they haven’t got all like the military assets in place to strike it. I mean, you might have a better idea of this than me, you guys, but maybe they thought in the January uprisings that they like funded all these terrorist groups to try and overthrow the government of Iran. Maybe they thought that it was still going to be going on now while they moved all these carrier groups and pulled their troops out of the Gulf oil state bases. Maybe they thought it was still going to be going on and that the Iran government was still going to be fighting these guys, but it was crushed within like a few days. Right!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I have a feeling that maybe they were trying to like wait a little bit longer, but it was about to be compromised and they thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If we don’t do it now, we miss the opportunity entirely.”</span></h3>
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<p>So they had to launch it. And they spent so long getting carriers into place to attack Iran because they’ve had these problems with the sewage system on the Gerald Ford, which obviously some people are saying that’s like a deliberate thing, that soldiers or sailors have clogged the tubes on purpose to destroy the system because they don’t want to go and die and be the next false flag. But they’ve had problems with that before. So it’s not entirely out of the realms of possibility that it is sort of coincidental to some degree.</p>
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<p>But yeah, obviously that was something that delayed them. So I mean we can be glad about that because it’s meant that Iran’s not facing these two things at the same time.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I’m not sure. Look, I’m not a, like a military analyst or anything, but I’m not sure even if the like Epstein empire, the Epstein regime, had fermented this terrorist uprising whilst they carried out this first strike against Khomeini in a little girl’s school for some reason, whether if those two things occurred, coincided, even then, whether they’d have been able to pull off this kind of toppling of the regime. It seems like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Regime?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Look, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> it’s the word everyone uses here! I can try, but I’m as susceptible to the MKUltra* terms as everyone else. Right? I’m just not sure it would have worked even if they had pulled it off at the same time.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* MKUltra was a covert program run by the CIA from 1953 to 1973. Its primary goal was to explore methods of mind control and behavior modification through various means, including drugs and psychological techniques. MKUltra is widely condemned for its unethical practices, including: Lack of Consent: Many subjects were unaware they were part of experiments. Abusive Techniques: Included torture, isolation, and drugging without consent. The term MKUltra is a CIA cryptonym: &#8220;MK&#8221; is an arbitrary prefix standing for the Office of Technical Service and &#8220;Ultra&#8221; is an arbitrary word out of a dictionary used to name this project.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, we’re going to go on to that anyway, so let’s move a little bit further forward because there are other things we want to talk about.</p>
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<p>Now, I think the next thing we need to talk about, we’ve placed this into context, talk about the Greater Israel Project. Now I think the next thing that’s very important is discussing the issue of these fake negotiations that America has had with the likes of Iran before all of this kicked off.</p>
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<p>And they obviously had similar sort of fake negotiations with, I think it was Venezuela, didn’t they? And then they go in anyway. This is something that America started doing, you know, fake negotiations, but then we come and get you anyway.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:06]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I think they had a similar thing with the, like Hezbollah and Hamas, didn’t they?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, there’s multiple examples.</p>
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<p>But what I’m getting at is a real, and we won’t labour this because we spoke about this extensively on the Nationalist A-Team the other night, but when we were talking about that, we did make the point that fundamentally at one point the idea of going in somewhere you know, negotiating, but then using negotiations as a reason or as an excuse to then hit another country. So the negotiations aren’t real negotiations. They’re cover that gets the other side to drop their guard. So, it’s like walking up somebody in a bar saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, mate, let’s just settle this amicably. Let me buy you a drink. What do you want?”</span></h3>
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<p>And when the other guy turns to have a look at the list of craft beers, you sucker punch him! You know, that’s an underhanded thing to do. Everyone would be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, that’s pretty much scandalous! We don’t want to see that kind of behaviour. That’s the kind of behaviour that’s not becoming of an honourable man.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there used to be this narrative that the West was honourable, that we were the good guys. And I’ll say these fake negotiations are being used as a means to cover up an attack which is I’m imminent. I do think that is a really shady thing to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that as time goes by, we are going to see more and more people be unwilling to negotiate with the West. Like, why would Vladimir Putin or China or any other nation, North Korea, negotiate with Trump? Why would any foreign leader trust going to America or sitting in a negotiation room with the Americans when they assassinate leaders, carry out fake negotiations, use the hand of friendship to lock their opponent’s hand in place before they sucker punch them? You know, it’s like holding one hand out to shake the other guy’s hand and when he starts giving the handshake, you just sucker punch them! You know, it’s awful! I mean, what do you guys think to this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think this is going to fundamentally change the way, the implication of this, is going to change the way that every other nation does business with America. And it’ll put America on a even people like the Europeans, who are essentially vassal states of America, are not going to be trusting of Trump again or America.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, Europe is already not going to be trusting of Trump and America because of the whole thing with Greenland for a start. But I mean, I hope at the end of this, obviously Iran’s going to hold out. They’re going to continue to resist until America and Israel, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> This is the summation, what you hope for comes at the end, like, stay on, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s related to this! It’s related to this. I was going to say I hope that Israel and America run out of interceptor missiles. Iran fights them to a standstill. And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right, we will negotiate with Trump in this place.”</span></h3>
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<p>He goes there to negotiate, and then, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> They just blow him up! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And it would be entirely justified on moral grounds and on the grounds that it’s already been done to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> They would cry bitter tears if the same tactics they had used, these same underhand, cowardly, sniveling, weak tactics were used on them! And this is something to point out to. I say I’m gonna use Boomer, but, like, Boomer mindset, Civnat, kind of Tommy Robinson-tard mindset where like:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, yeah, no, we’re the good guys and we should stamp these dirty terrorists into the ground! They’re terrorists!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like your pedo jew empire assassinates little girls for some reason, I guess because they’ve just got bloodlust and we can talk about the Purim Fest, if we want. Assassinates little girls, assassinates world leaders, which is supposed to be off the table. Totally violates, like, any notion of the Geneva Convention or the kind of rules of war and does it in a cowardly way. This is like your medieval knight marching out to the front of a battle under a white flag to negotiate terms and then just pulling a knife and stabbing the negotiator. Your entire army would be, they’re like, forfeit. And the enemy army would be totally justified in just slaughtering prisoners and like, just pillaging and doing whatever it wants at that stage! You’ve set the rules. You’re supposed to be the powerful, the one who’s setting out exactly how things are going to go down. And you open the conflict or the latest round of the conflict with an underhand cowardly assassination under the flag of truce and blowing up 170 schoolgirls! Well, I’m sorry, but what space have you now given for quarters? None! And no one’s going to trust you, and they shouldn’t trust you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the other world powers looking on Russia and China, who we’re going to touch on in a little while, like Mark said, they’re not going to be trustworthy. They’re going to have that in their minds anytime America tries to talk to them, anytime the jew empire reaches out to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we just want to discuss the Ukraine war and negotiate terms in the Ukraine war.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And like, Yuro said, they would be totally justified in shooting down like diplomatic planes, like bombing, like delegations, peace delegations, assassinating the head of state. Who’s to tell anyone now that that is a wrong or immoral thing to do now that supposedly the world police and a global superpower and the most moral army in the world, Israel, has carried out exactly that, such a thing.</p>
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<p>And I don’t need to belabour the point, but they’ve been doing this for a long time. And you can look back as far as Dresden and the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, to say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s how these people act! And people who oppose them should act accordingly and plan accordingly.”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[41:35]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I agree. And not only this or not only what you guys have said, but I do think it’s very interesting that on top of everything you guys have said, there is also the issue of Russia and Zelensky.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now obviously if Russia had wanted to, they could have bombed Kiev, day one of the conflict and absolutely just beheaded the regime. Now Russia never did that. Now I’m not saying Russia are the good guys or shilling for Russia, but it is an interesting comparison to see that everything that Russia has been accused of, the West has done and the West has done it in a much more sort of egregious fashion. It’s quite interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this so-called “<em>Axis of Evil</em>” now appears to be far less evil than the “<em>good guys</em>”. The “<em>good guys</em>” have shown, I said that in inverted commas. Have shown their hand. They’ve, it’s a mask off moment. I don’t know if anyone wants to add something to this because we did talk about this a lot, but I’ll give you the chance to follow up if anyone wants to talk about this.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, go on. Yuro, you go first.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I was just gonna say it’s a complete moral inversion. It’s, we are supposedly the good guys because we fight against the bad guys. And they’re all terrorists. They’re inherently evil. I was listening to, I think this was on the Daily Shoah they were talking about basically the term “<em>terrorist</em>” is a social construction. It’s just a word we can use to label somebody and all of a sudden their grievances illegitimate. We don’t have to stick to the rules of engagement. We can just murder them, we can murder their families and put them in jail. We just put this label on them and they are inherently evil.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know, the Ayatollah was never in the Epstein files. That’s the difference.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, the Ayatollah never called me a goyim or demographically replaced my people or ethnically cleansed my people. So you know, what beef do I have with the Ayatollah, at this point? And like Mark was saying, the Russians opened Ukraine, the Ukraine conflict by striking out military targets. They were landing at Hostomel Airport and controlling like major supply routes. And the Jewpedo regime starts its war with an assassination of a leader, or a spiritual leader. Not a military strategist or anything like that. A spiritual leader who’s in his 80s as well as his granddaughter and his family members all blown up. And like blowing up a school with 12 to 17 year old school girls in it. Now you tell me, yeah, you tell me who the bad guys are.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s worth pointing out as well that the entire war in Ukraine or although it was something that had been kind of slowly building up for a while, that NATO had been expanding further and further eastward, it was really brought to the fore because Russia was supporting Assad in Syria. And the Epstein empire had to take out Syria in order to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hezbollah and getting to Gaza.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they started this whole other conflict to take Russia’s focus away from helping their allies in Syria. And that allowed them to get in there and destroy Syria. And it’s all part of the same program.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> The same grand strategy. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people kind of don’t seem to understand that. They’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well that seems, that seems too far fetched that the Pedojew regime would start a war with Russia in Ukraine just to help topple the Syrian government. Or the Pedo jew regime would kidnap a South American president just to support an ongoing or like support a future war against Iran with oil, you know, oil routes and all the rest of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Because people are like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, that can’t be right, you know, 50,000 Ukrainian men dead and God knows how many Russian men dead just to tie up Russian forces to leave Syria exposed?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, that’s how these people think. That’s what they’re willing to do.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what they did do. And in Syria, Russian troops, Russian air power in Syria was halting Israeli aggression and you know, Western aggression. It was the CIA, it was MI6 and was Mossad, was paying ISIS, which has now become HTS, which is basically ISIS, to mess up Syria and mess with Assad and sanctions on Assad’s government that was turning the place inhospitable. Making it so that just to live there was pain and it wasn’t the government was obviously suffering and trying its best, but the people suffer when you put sanctions on a country. So on behest of like jewish paedophiles and Israel, America just makes people’s lives a misery around the world, everywhere! You know, Ukrainian men dead, Syrian families wiped out, little girls in Iran, hundreds of thousands of civilians everywhere, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Libya, all dead! Because jewish paedophiles just cannot get enough blood.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And until the extent that they have any support for the Israeli regime in places like the UK, people in the UK who support Israel, they see this as a war against the Muslims. And they hate Muslims because of what gangs of Pakistani men do to White girls after jewish people like Peter Mandelson and his friend Tony Blair, people like that brought them to our country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it works for them both ways because it destroys the youth of the British people. It destroys our homogeneous country. It creates resentment against Muslims which they can then use and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, don’t you hate the Muslims, you hate the Pakistanis who are raping children over here!”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[48:08]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Live vicariously as we bomb them in the Middle East. Oh, we’re getting those dirty Muslims for you know, goyim! Don’t worry, we’re bombing them. You love it, don’t you? Rah, rah, ra! Let’s go Israel! Israel’s defending you! If we weren’t fighting them here, you’d be fighting them in your streets!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, how? Okay, thanks, Schlomo. How did they get onto my streets in the first place? Anyone fancy answer that, answering that question?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, that’s a very good point. Now obviously we discussed that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when we discussed the Ayatollah being killed, we’ve discussed the schoolgirls being killed. I mean, know, as you said, the paedophiles are now murdering children. And this says something about America and Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I don’t think this was an accident. I don’t think that school being hit was in any way an accident. I think they did that on purpose. I think that’s the sort of people that they are. I think they do things like this because it pleases them to do things like this. And it pleases them to do things like this because to them this is they could avoided doing this, but they don’t want to avoid doing this. What they want to do is they want to cause as much hurt and pain as possible. Now these missile systems that they have, they are probably the best missile systems in the world. They understand where they can strike and where they can’t strike. Those missiles are pretty damn accurate.</p>
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<p>So when they hit a school, I think that’s by some sort of sick design. I don’t believe it’s accidental. I don’t know if you guys want to add anything to that.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, there’s a term called “<em>sub-metre accuracy</em>” and I think Tomahawk missiles, I’m not sure about JDAMs, but certainly Tomahawk missiles and the types of missiles that the Jewpedo regime uses all have sub-metre accuracy.</p>
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<p>So the claims about:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this girl school was next to a Iranian military base or something.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>These munitions have sub-metre accuracy, which means they can target within a metre, which is where they drop these bombs. I mean, are we supposed to pretend that the Pedojew regime is somehow like squeamish about blowing up children and civilians? A regime that goes out of its way to target hospitals and suburbs and then when it’s blown up the hospitals and suburbs, then blows up the tent cities that spring up around it to house all the refugees and injured people that you’ve just like totally displaced.</p>
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<p>So these people are not squeamish about killing civilians then. They never have been. They never have been. Not for the last 70 years and probably not before that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> We’re always told that we have the most advanced, precise, ultra accurate munitions. We can take out a terrorist in a crowd without killing anyone else:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, look, we dropped a bomb dead centre on that school. Total accident! We don’t know how it happened!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you remember when they were attacking Gaza? I mean they’re always attacking Gaza, but in particular in the aftermath of October 7th and there were various organisations that went there to try to provide food relief and they had a car with a big logo on the top that says, “<em>Food Kitchen</em>”. It’s a non-governmental organisation, it’s a charity that’s bringing food to starving people in Gaza. And they sent a munition. It’s like a missile, but instead of a bomb, it’s got just like razor blades all around it.</p>
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<p>And you can see the picture of the car, they sent it straight through the roof, directly on top of the driver’s seat and cut that man to bits! That’s how accurate they can be when they want to be. So they have the ability to do that they have the ability to do it. It is not an accident when they, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> The other interesting thing about the strike on the girls school was in the immediate aftermath, like there were shills online, there were online shills and righttoids and jews and all sorts of like scum coming out the woodwork claiming again, like they used to do in Gaza or like they have done in Gaza, that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, this was an Iranian missile that kind of missed a target or misfired as they fired it out of Tehran and fell back on the girl school.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Which was utterly disproved! And yet, you know, none of the people who were claiming this was like an Iranian misfire will ever be held to account or ever be made to apologise or made to like confront their lies about what this was. So the misinformation is hot and heavy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you think, like I said, I’m going to reiterate this, if you think the Pedojew regime is squeamish about blowing up children, you’re mistaken. They’re not squeamish about blowing them up. Probably the only disappointing thing for the Pedojew regime is that these girls were blown up and didn’t have a chance to be like, sent off to Epstein’s island or something like that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[53:08]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you. The next thing is, this is quite interesting because it’s not the first time that Israel have admitted to bombing civilian populations. And we’ve discussed that they did it in Lebanon. They do it quite indiscriminately, they do it in Gaza.</p>
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<p>But one thing’s quite interesting about these particular bombings and you guys made the point that they were bombing police stations. And I think they believe that they bombed police stations and took out government leaders and spiritual leaders, that there was going to be a revolution. And we’ve constantly heard this nonsense in the West, haven’t we? That the Iranian regime is hideously unpopular, that normal people in Iran hate the Ayatollah, they hate the government, the police, every organ of the state. I’d actually say more people in Britain hate Keir Starmer than people in Iran hate the Ayatollah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one thing that’s been very interesting is post these strikes and these indiscriminate missile attacks on schools, police stations and other sites around Tehran, we’ve seen more people out in the street supporting the Iranian government and wanting to fight back against America. I think that really underlines the fact that this idea that the Iranian people are all kept down, they have the Ayatollah’s boot on their head, this is nothing more than propaganda.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, of course! It’s quite interesting to juxtapose it.</p>
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<p>Can you imagine like a protest, or a march with hundreds of thousands of people ever coming out for any European government? I mean, the closest you got in the West was Trump, right? And that is quickly turned to ash in a lot of people’s mouths. He’s been exposed as basically just another neocon.</p>
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<p>But if you put yourself in the shoes of like an Iranian, a normal Iranian citizen who’s just watched every single country where his kind of ethnic people, I know that Persians are maybe looked at differently than other people are on the Gulf states, whatever. All the other countries around him who aren’t in league with Israel have been like, brutally broken up and just left as failed states. Well, you’re going to want to cling to anything that stands up to these people and anything that resists being destroyed by them, because you know that if your government falls, that’s the end of any semblance of stability or normality you’ve got. You’re just going to have to either flee or deal with a failed state of a nation. So, of course they support it!</p>
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<p>And you listen to like the BBC or Piers Morgan or some of these shows and you would think that, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Andrew Neil!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, he’s the worst! He’s a total Zio boot licker, man! I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen! <span style="color: #008000;">[LOL]</span> But like, you listen to these people and you’d think that every single person in Iran is just waiting, crouched behind their door, ready to rise up and take out this hugely unpopular government that everyone hates.</p>
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<p>And like you said, there’s no government in Europe or anywhere in the West that is as popular with its people as the Iranian government. So take that as you will.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Obviously, you know, Iran, I mean, I’m guessing, but much like most of the Middle East is awash with weapons from previous gayops and plans that we’ve had to overthrow them in the past.</p>
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<p>But if you turn this around and let’s say some foreign actor blew up Parliament with every MP in it and blew up every diversity police station across the country and just dropped a bunch of weapons the chance of having a revolution would be much more likely here than it ever would be over there!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And just to add on to this point, funnily enough, the strikes on Bahrain, and Bahrain’s a tiny little island nation. I mean, it used to be part of Iran. But the strikes on Bahrain look like they might actually foment a revolution because they’re kind of the Pedojew empire installed monarchy in Bahrain has lost its grip thanks to the Americans retreating and the actual people in Bahrain absolutely hate their rulers. And possibly, you know, news blackout and all the rest of it might actually foment a popular revolution in Bahrain and change governments there, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> which is supposed to be like a stronghold for the American empire and the Epstein regime and the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, which controls the Persian Gulf or it used to control the Persian Gulf until the Pedojew regime started this war. So yeah, good one, guys. How’s it going? How’s this war going for you?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I would say that you’ve got a very good point there. And it’s a good point because we are moving on to how is this war going? Well, this is the interesting thing. Trump was elected as the guy who was going to be the President of peace and he was also elected on this America First ticket.</p>
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<p>The idea that he was going to look after the average American. Now since Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, we’ve seen sort of panic buying. Oil prices have spiked. This is something that isn’t helping normal Americans who are already struggling with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.</p>
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<p>And I would say, for Trump, when you actually look at, you say, how’s it going for him personally? It’s not going well domestically, but his approval ratings are at an all time low. They’re actually beneath his previous approval ratings for his first term and actually beneath Biden’s approval ratings. Now he’s getting savaged.</p>
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<p>Now obviously he’s going out on TV:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, none of these mean anything. This is rubbish! The people love me!”</span></h3>
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<p>And I’ve spoken about this before. Post World War II don’t think any Western leader has built a cult of personality as intense as Trump has done with the MAGA movement. Trump has truly built a cult of personality where people see him as the supreme leader.</p>
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<p>But I think that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing! It’s a good thing because you have a dedicated support base. It’s a bad thing because often you become insulated and you only listen to that dedicated support base. And because you have that insulation, because you have that ring of people cheering you on and like:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Up Trump! Yeah, you’re doing it right! You’re getting it right! Donald’s got it perfect! Bomb them all!”</span></h3>
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<p>You don’t actually hear the people outside of your immediate circle. And I think Trump has got this wrong. I think this is going to bring more misery on normal Americans. And I also think it could cost the Republicans the midterm.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:00:51]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I don’t think Trump got this wrong. I think Trump did this because his handlers wanted him to do this. I mean, was it Marco Rubio who basically came out and said Israel told us they were going to attack and when they attacked, we were going to get hit in response, so we just had to join them, basically, the tail wags the dog. We had to join in. They forced our hand.</p>
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<p>And of course, Trump’s all over the Epstein files. He’s part of the Epstein class. He is part of that jewish Zionist Occupied Government <span style="color: #008000;">[ZOG]</span>. He’s not doing it because he thinks it’s going to make him popular. He’s doing it because he is either severely compromised or that’s just his team.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And to assume that Trump cares anymore, I mean, he’s not up for a third term. And if he doesn’t care, do you think the jews who are running him and the Epstein, whoever takes over from Epstein cares about Trump’s reputation or cares even less about the American people and what they want? They were just dupes who were fooled into voting for him. And you can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, the 2016 Trump train.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which was a lot more based and had a lot more kind of like groundswell, Right-wing energy behind it. Well:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“They were tricked as well. Right?”</span></h3>
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<p>But if you fell for it again and voted for him this time, they really must despise you and just think you’re the most stupid person ever going! And it’s been proven right. I mean, Trump has now burned any credibility he’s had. This is an extremely unpopular war, but it doesn’t matter. His reputation isn’t on the line anymore, and it’s not a consideration for the people pulling his strings. They wanted this war done. Trump was their best shot of getting it done. And so they’ve got him to enact it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we’re seeing is the fallout. And who knows where this ends? I’m sure we’re going to move on to that point. But the suffering of the American people, the suffering of European people is not any concern to these people! And you might argue that European suffering and American suffering is just a little bit of icing on their cake.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> This is something that they’ve wanted for decades and they’ve realised that as time’s gone on its getting less and less possible. So they’ve done it now because now is more likely than tomorrow as bad as it is and as badly as they’re doing and not winning what they want to be. If they’d waited longer, they would have had even less chance.</p>
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<p>So it’s just like it’s do or die. It’s all out now because they’ve got no other choice.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Right. That’s what I totally agree with that.</p>
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<p>And what I’m saying is the considerations that like a rational government that cared about its people would make, and there’s going to be an energy crisis, our people are going to die in this war. It’s hugely unpopular. This doesn’t benefit us in the slightest. None of that is like, none of that is in consideration. And it’s clear when you listen to people that they don’t quite understand that. And you listen to like the media class trying to justify this war and just grasping for anything.</p>
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<p>Whereas like the reality, the truth, that this is purely for Israel and purely for the pedojew empire just doesn’t, it’s quite a hard pill to swallow.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And as always, it’s going to affect Europe and it’s going to affect the UK so much worse than it’s going to affect America, because America has its own energy supplies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas, you know, Europe has been deliberately cut off from Russian energy supplies and made to not take fuel from Iran in the first place. And so Europeans are probably going to freeze this winter because of what the Americans have done or the jewish-American empire has done. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Not content with cutting off via like a jewishpedo regime war with Russia. Not content with cutting off like the majority of European energy supplies. Now <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> the pedojew empire now starts another war in the Gulf, which will just totally screw energy prices. And I like you guys know this, but I’m in the middle of, I’ve almost finished building my house and part of that was installing a heating system and we’ve got like a central heating system.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Didn’t install a heat pump, did you?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> We did not install a heat pump. We installed a central heating oil boiler which we needed to run up as like commissioning the system <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> and like we went to fill it up the day after this started and the price of central heating oil was like 63 per litre. And the day after this thing started and Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it went up by like 33 P per litre and it’s now at like 1 pound 33 a litre. So I know this isn’t funny because this is going to affect everyone, but it’s like these are real effects and no the people who started this war just don’t care about this. You haven’t felt this at the pumps yet, but my God, like you are going to and the whole of Europe is going to, so.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:06:19]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And it will be White pensioners who freeze whilst illegal migrants can turn up the heating as much as they want in hotels and non-Whites all over will get preferential benefits and help to make sure that they’re looked after while our people suffer.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I mean that’s a given at this point.</p>
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<p>But yeah, we’re about to be hit with this thing. I mean, unless it wraps up quickly, which is not going to happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Even if it did wrap up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks. I mean this is what always happens when there’s a, like the price of oil shoots up, petrol prices shoot up, the price, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Two days for it to rise. 106. Yeah, six weeks for it to creep its way back down. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> They’re very interesting points and obviously it sort of goes into what we said before about Venezuela. It puts everything into context.</p>
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<p>Now one of the things that he’s really. We’re going to talk a bit about the fight back here and what Iran has done, its retaliatory strikes, but one of the most disappointing things is they talk about this Axis of Evil, but so far Russia have condemned this. I’m not sure what China have said, if anything at all, but there’s largely a wave of silence about this, isn’t there? There isn’t sort of the international, &#8230; So when Russia started their, in inverted commas. They’re not my words, but their words, “<em>the Special Military Operation</em>”, you know, there was this wave of condemnation from every European country about the invasion of Ukraine.</p>
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<p>However, here, this so-called “<em>Axis of Evil</em>”, China, Russia, etc, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of pushback other than a couple of snappy press statements.</p>
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<p>And I think this does tell you something about Russia and China’s ability or readiness to get involved. Now I would say China is more concerned with potentially taking Taiwan. And the knock on effects of this is, well, China will look and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If America can take out the leadership of countries they don’t like, why can’t we do the same to Taiwan?”</span></h3>
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<p>And I think Russia is still tied up in Ukraine, which is probably by design. I think part of the issue with Ukraine was pulling Russia so deep into Ukraine that it depleted their resources in places like Syria. So regimes did fall in areas that America wanted them, America and Israel wanted them to fall.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what do you think about the lack of sort of international pushback on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s obvious that the Chinese and Russians are helping the Iranians in terms of intelligence gathering, satellite imagery. Supposedly the Iranian missiles use like an encrypted Chinese GPS as opposed to the American run satellites.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, they’re not coming out and publicly saying a lot and they could be doing a lot more kind of out in the open. And if they were really serious, the Chinese and Russians could help the Iranians develop an actual nuclear weapon to allow them to have a deterrent to defend themselves. And that could have happened, you know, within the last decade, but we don’t see them doing it.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, I made this point to mark the other day. This is where I kind of disagree with you a little bit. I think there’s only so much they can do. And Russia can’t just import a nuke into Tehran or into Iran without them asking for it. And if you’ve been paying attention, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, they should ask for it then!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well that’s, maybe you’re right and they probably should and they probably will if they ever, if they get through this thing in one piece. But Russia has to be asked to provide that nuke. And the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini has famously had a fatwa on acquiring nuclear weapons. Which, you know, looking back to how we opened this thing puts lie to the fact that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Iran is two weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is five weeks away from having a nuke!”</span></h3>
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<p>For the last 30 years, every couple of weeks. So for one, Iran has to ask these countries for things. And I’m fairly certain that Russia is providing military assistance. You know, maybe not flashy supersonic missiles and all the rest of it, but you know it’s a short hop across the Caspian Sea for Russia to send boats and send equipment down to Tehran as much as it can. Like you said, Mark, they’re tied up in Ukraine as per the pedojew regime’s plan.</p>
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<p>And like you said, Yuro. They’re using encrypted Chinese satellite data for their missiles. And I’m sure, like satellite imagery of the surrounding Gulf states and areas that Iranian like ballistic missiles and drones are hitting is provided by the Chinese.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think Russia and China understand the stakes here and understand that if Iran falls or we’re kind of at a turning point in history of the future of the Pedojew regime empire and where it stands and if it manages to pull this off and destroy Iran, then who knows what’s next? And we, I guess, we can talk about that. But for Russia and China, they probably think that actually halting the Pedojew regime here is probably a good thing to do.</p>
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<p>And as much as much as they can do under the table, they’re going to do. And if it gets any hotter than that, well, who knows? But I disagree with you that they’re not helping as much as they could be.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I don’t expect them to hand over a dozen nuclear weapons and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Here you go!”</span></h3>
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<p>But why is Iran using such an antiquated air force instead of more modern Russian fighter planes, for example? Like, things like that would not be outside of the realm of possibility.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:12:38]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, because that’s not where the Iranian like, national defense has been focused. America, whatever you like to say about it, dominates the air and it always has. It has the most advanced and the most aeroplanes that it can put in the sky. You know, carrier groups all over the place, air bases all over the place. And Iran has had a long time to prepare for this. They’ve watched what’s happened around them and has decided actually our best national defense is in this missile capability and drone capability. And if Russia sent a squadron of like Su-22s or whatever the latest MIGs are, they would probably be shot down in fairly short order, which would be waste of resources.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think this idea, like I said, I think this idea that they’re not helping as much as they can is misplaced.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And interestingly enough, Arab Natsoc in the chat has just said Iran has a hyper fixation on self sufficiency. And he says it’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that’s probably correct. Like I said it’s not up to China and Russia just to unload the docks in some port somewhere. Just tons and tons of military hardware that Iran never asked for. You know, they’ve got to agree these things and they’ve got to ask for it and they’ve got to trade for it and give things away and they probably feel they don’t need to. And judging by what’s happening so far, maybe they’re right. They didn’t need it. Maybe whatever they’ve asked for, they’re utilising and anything they haven’t asked for, they don’t really need.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[with a Russian accent]</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to leave that pallet of nuclear weapons. You can do what you like with them.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I did say this in all fairness, mate, I think I did say to you it would probably, to do something like this or to create a deal of that sort you would probably actually need for the Iranian regime to fundamentally turn around and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, you’re gonna have half of our country, you’re gonna have X amount of our oil production. You’re going to be able to put your own bases on our soil. You’re going to have this power over us.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then Russia or China might say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this is actually worth it. Then we will put bases on your soil. This is absolutely worth it! We’re going for it. Thanks. Thanks a bunch, guys. You know, this works.”</span></h3>
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<p>But the Iranians might not actually want that they might not actually want Russia and China to have that much control over Iranian politics.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, that’s absolutely right!</p>
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<p>And if you think about it, that would turn Iran into a, like a, not exactly a vassal state, but as a, like an arm of Russia or an arm of China.</p>
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<p>Whereas if they come out of this unscathed, they emerge as the regional power in the Middle East, which has much bigger implications for them and then makes them bigger on the world stage than just being an outpost of Russia or China.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> But they could trade on more equal terms with the North Koreans. And the North Koreans have come out and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If they ask for a nuke, they’ll get one.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well maybe they will. I suspect the Iranian government is going to be much more looking at that idea much more favourably after this.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, that is an interesting point.</p>
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<p>And ultimately I’ve said this on many streams, but we are in a situation where that is the only way that you can keep America off your back. That’s the only reason North Korea didn’t fall. It’s the only reason Russia probably hasn’t been invaded or struck by the Americans. I think if Russia didn’t have nukes, undoubtedly America would have attacked them.</p>
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<p>But despite them not having nukes, I will say this. I think the Iranians retaliatory strikes have been extremely impressive! But amongst those retaliatory strikes, it is noted that, because when this all started, I was thinking:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why are they bombing refineries? Why are they attacking refineries in other Arab nations? Surely that’s going to annoy potential allies. Why would they do such a thing? You know, we don’t do that, guys, because if you do, you’re going to end up being a pariah state and you know, your next door neighbours aren’t going to want to essentially work with you.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then the other day it comes out that effectively what you’re seeing here is not Iran striking these oil refineries, but the strikes on the oil refineries have been carried out by Israel!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what do you think to Iran’s actual retaliation and what do you think of Israel’s rather underhanded attacks? Because, and this isn’t just theory crafting. We’ve actually seen over the last, 24 hours scores of Mossad agents being arrested around the Middle East for being involved in false flag operations in numerous Middle Eastern nations.</p>
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<p>And of course, this is something that we all know happens. This is something that we all are completely aware of you know, we know that Israel is regularly involved in sort of false flag events. This is something that has happened many, many times in the past.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s interesting that this is being exposed. So we’ve had the USS Liberty, <span style="color: #008000;">[we’ve had 9/11]</span> we’ve had bombings in the Middle East. We’ve had potential or we’ve had sort of “<em>terror attacks</em>” in inverted commas in numerous countries which have turned out to be the work of Israeli agents. And we’re seeing that again now.</p>
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<p>So I think Iran has performed far more ably than people might have thought. Sadly, they don’t seem to be winning this. Their navy seems to be taking major hits.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But some of these retaliatory strikes are looking questionable, are actually the work of Israel.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:19:06]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, supposedly, I mean, who’s to say that the attack on our base in Cyprus was actually carried out by Iran? Because didn’t Keir Starmer say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we won’t actually engage in hostile actions, we’ll only defend Israel with our planes!”</span></h3>
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<p>Which is, of course, kind of a schizophrenic point of view in the first place. But then all of a sudden:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, look, our base in Cyprus is attacked and now we can kind of get in fully without restriction.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> So that’s a good point. I mean, we can talk about RAF Akrotiri, but if you look at where Cyprus is on a map, any Iranian weapons, munitions, whether it’s drones or missiles or whatever, have to fly over, like directly over Israel. So there’s speculation it was like Hezbollah or possibly someone else or even maybe a, like an Israeli false flag, which is certainly possible. And who can say?</p>
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<p>But it does seem like the refineries in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are Mossad operations to blow them up. With the point being to try and engage those countries on behalf of Israel to come into the war on behalf of Israel and do what they can or do more for Israel.</p>
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<p>But coming back to your point, Mark, about the strikes that Iran have carried out, it’s not clear to me that they’re losing. I mean, you say it seems they’re losing. I’m not sure that’s totally true. And we spoke about this before I think a few months back on the Nationalist A-Team, where I think they’re doing much more, they’re doing a much more capable job than anyone except expected them to in the sensibility and where they’re striking.</p>
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<p>So they’re hitting US bases in these Gulf oil states, you know, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And they’re forcing the Americans to retreat, which stretches their logistic lines. And like we said earlier, they may have fomented an uprising in Bahrain and they’re making these Arab states which have been paid off or controlled by Israel in some way unstable and shaky. And the Israeli installed governments and monarchs and regimes in these countries are looking incredibly shaky or shaky as you’ve just put in the chat, that you’re on shaky ground. And hitting Dubai, well, that’s just popular with everyone in the entire world. So what do you say about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s kind of, it’s almost like their own kind of Samson Option, except inherently justified and not evil because they’re only going after the American bases and the people supporting the Americans and the Israelis.</p>
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<p>But you know, they’ve said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If we’re attacked from here. We’re going to take this, and just kind of everything in the region, every American base.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s entirely justified because these countries can’t claim to be not involved:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh yes, we’re not involved in this. We just have a base where your enemy is launching attacks on you, but we’re not involved!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then the moment Iran says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, well we’re not going to attack you, we’re not going to attack your people, but we’ll take out that base.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then say Saudi Arabia:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“So we’re under attack, we’re being attacked.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, no!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s American soil. That’s American soil there buddy! A totally legitimate target by anyone’s standards.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I mean, it seems like Iran is taking a kind of “<em>tank and turtle</em>” strategy. You know, it’s like when you play a, like a strategy game and you can put a lot into units or you can just build up your base and wait for them to come to you. And it can be risky because there’s a possibility that you get overwhelmed.</p>
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<p>But if you’re turtle enough you can withstand that storm and then you can turn around.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Is Yuro the tank or the turtle? That’s the question. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Depends what he’s had to eat. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Turtling and tanking, kind of the same thing.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> But I think like Iran by its like geography is kind of is able to naturally turtle and the fact is that there’s so many assets that America have placed around it and like the jewpedo regime have around it. And the fact that Israel is within striking distance means it can strike effectively. And America is very powerful and has a very powerful military, but that military still has logistical concerns and still has aircraft carriers that are clogged <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> with like fat Mexican sailors poo!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> American aircraft carriers are as full of shit as Donald Trump!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> yeah, agreed.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well that’s the thing. Look, I mean, we haven’t seen an aircraft carrier at the bottom of the Persian Gulf yet, have we? Now you might be saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh well, Mark, that’s a big ask.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because Obviously, if that happened, we would actually probably see the beginning of World War III! Because at that point, I think Trump would have to put boots on the ground. It actually might be the end of him. You know, it’d be one of the other, wouldn’t it? He’d either have to put boots on the ground or it’d be the end of him. But we are yet to see an aircraft carrier effectively being scrapped.</p>
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<p>Now, that doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything in retaliation, but they’re not hitting the big targets. And look, we’ve had American commentators, some of these American commentators that do these sort of big takes on these things. You hear them talking about this Axis of Resistance and saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh the time will come when these hypersonic missiles are going to be putting aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Persian Gulf!”</span></h3>
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<p>We yet to see that, are we? I mean, we’re also yet to see any of these sort of hypersonic super weapons take out leading members of the Israeli government or the Israeli regime. You know, I know Yuro doesn’t like the word “<em>regime</em>”, which we keep using, but that is an interesting point. We haven’t seen Israel struck. Israel has been proved to be not invincible, I think it’s fair to say that. But we haven’t seen the Israeli government reeling in the same way that the Iranian government has.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:25:49]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, there’s a couple of points to make here. First off, with regards to the aircraft carriers, the American Navy has been keeping the aircraft carriers at a much greater range than they would normally use them to attack somebody because they are scared of those missiles. And the Iranians have launched small salvos of kind of like four missiles at time at them and got them to basically back off and back off to a greater distance, which means they can do much fewer kind of bombing runs at once and they have more fuel requirements and greater maintenance on the planes. So it is diminishing America’s capability to attack.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There was also satellite footage, I think, from a Chinese satellite that showed a fire on one of the destroyers in one of the aircraft carriers escorts. So potentially that was hit by Iranian missiles and although not sunk, caught fire. So they’re keeping them at bay. The Americans know if they get any closer, they will be hit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And with regards to the missiles that they’re firing, it seems like they’ve used a lot of their kind of crappier munitions and their older munitions, like everything they’ve been launching at the other Gulf states is short range ballistic missiles that don’t have the range to go anywhere else. So they might as well use them on these targets. And they’ve been using up these older, less advanced munitions and drones and still still getting so many interceptors wasted before they actually bring out the big guns. And we’ve seen within the past day or two they’re starting to launch these missiles. I can’t remember the name of them, but they’re like a very large cluster munition that drops about 60 different submunitions on the way down and they’re dropping those on Israel.</p>
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<p>And as I said in the very beginning, we just don’t know how much is actually getting through and how much damage they’re actually doing because it’s censored and covered up.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, we did touch on this and like you said, like an interceptor system, like a THAAD or like a Patriot battery or whatever, costs like in the millions, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’re being used up <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> like drones with lawnmower engines and like a few kilogram warheads. And Iran’s just like churning these things out, like churning them out and churning them out and they’re still intact and they’re at some point America is going to run out of interceptors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I don’t know if you saw this, but the pedojew regime in America like called its defense manufacturers, heads of its defense manufacturing industry in for like an emergency meeting to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need more missiles! We need more stuff like come on, make it happen!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was listening to something earlier saying this is very well demanding that, but there’s a lot of a very expensive gear that goes into this stuff, like certain gases and certain rare earth elements and guidance systems and radio radar systems and optics and all the rest of it that has to go into this missile production.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you know, Iran can get like a cheap <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Chinese lawnmower engine, stick it in a, like a fiberglass Shahed drone shell, put a bit of explosive on the tip of it and just launch it wherever it runs, you know, within a few hundred mile radius, which is enough to cover the Gulf states and Strait of Hormuz and all this oil production that Europe relies on and lots of other people rely on and it’s going to destabilise all these countries that surround it.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> There’s a psychological aspect of them just doing the drip, drip, drip, dropping wave after wave of missiles on the Israelis, that’s definitely going to be wearing the Israelis down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also let’s say they absolutely opened up and dropped every missile that they had on Tel Aviv and the surrounding areas. Well in that situation the Israelis would come out and enact the Samson Option, wouldn’t they? And just you know, destroy them with their own nuclear weapons so that obviously they’re not going to feel like they can just drop everything on them at once because they don’t want to force them into that corner where they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, well we’re doomed anyway!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well the other thing to remember is for Iran, the people in Iran and the government in Iran understands this is like a fight for survival. Like I said earlier, if they lose now, if they fail in this defense of their nation, they turn into a failed state. Israel has free reign and MI6 and the CIA have free reign to just fund all sorts of horrible like disgusting groups like ISIS and like the Kurds and everyone else to come and storm their country and make it into a living hellhole, just like they’ve done with Syria and Iraq and Libya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they understand this is a fight for their survival. So they’ve got to bend their entire will to doing this. Israel and America can stop anytime and can be forced to their knees if their civilian populations demand it. You know dropping cluster munitions on Tel Aviv is like a terror tactic. Well I mean “<em>terror</em>” in like air quotes, right? But at some point the Israeli people, the jews in Israel were going to have had enough of air raid sirens and cluster munitions raining on their heads and could be going to demand that it ends one way or another.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is what happened in the 12 Day War. I mean if you listen to shills and like pedojew media you would think that Iran lost a 12 day war, but it was Israel who cried off, who’d taken enough punishment from everything I can see. And it’s only a matter of time. I mean if Iran can sustain what it’s doing the Iron Dome is not stopping a giant like cluster warhead that like you said drops 60 submunitions on the city in a suburb somewhere, they’re going to cry uncle and they’re going to bend the knee to Iran.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:32:14]</span></p>
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<p>Meanwhile Iran can’t stop and it simply can’t otherwise it fails. And I’m sure almost everyone in the country understands that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> This is like a boxing match where the other side controls the bell. You know, you’ve got Mike Tyson there and he’s got the bell. He chooses when the match ends. You don’t want to give it everything you’ve got and gas out too early because it might go on another five minutes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they are happy to let this draw out. And everything that the Americans and the Israelis has done has all been about, let’s go in there with the alpha strike, let’s drop as much on them as we can, let’s take out this, let’s take out that, and then we’ll just walk away and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mission successful, we can walk away now.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Iranians are like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, we’re not surrendering! We’re going to keep on fighting!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because as time continues it gets more and more in their favour. What they don’t want to do is say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right let’s have a ceasefire!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And three months, six months down the line, it starts all over again. They’re better off just continuing it now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I agree with that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this is, like I said, this is a long, long time in the making. This is a long term plan of Israel’s to destroy and destabilise Iran. So if there’s ever, if there’s a ceasefire, if this stops, it’s going to be back on again at some point. And in the same way that a Gaza ceasefire isn’t really a ceasefire and at some point Israel is going to move on Gaza again and try and wipe those people out. So I think the Iranians understand that. Well, hopefully they understand that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll see what happens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it is interesting because they haven’t begged, have they haven’t begged and they haven’t cucked! I think they know there is no negotiations. That’s one of the big problems earlier that we talked about though. You know, when you make it so negotiation is meaningless, you essentially do put people with their backs to the wall. You know, if you’ve got a guy, you know, stood in his house with a pistol and the police are like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, let’s negotiate.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know that when the police come through that door, they’re going to shoot you no matter what. At that point, what are you going to do? Is it going to be fight to the death, blaze of glory time, or is it going to be:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’ll spend 12 hours negotiating only to be shot in the head anyway.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At that point, you are creating an interesting sort of situation where fundamentally the American word is good for nothing! And the only answer is to fight to the death. And look, you know, without going into World War II, many, many Germans surrendered in good faith, believing that they were going to be treated like human beings, that they were going to be treated honourably, that surrendering to the Americans would be the right thing, that they would go home, that they would be treated as prisoners of war. And then they were brutalised and starved to death. I mean, surrendering to America is often, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Or sent to Russia as slaves.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Even starved on the banks of the Rhine or sent to Russia as slaves. Yeah, you shouldn’t imagine that you’re going to be treated fairly if you surrender to these people. They’ve shown, as we discussed earlier, they’ve shown that they’ve got no honour. They’ve shown that they’re dishonourable people and they don’t treat civilians well. Those are the lessons that should be taken from this.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> They protest for their right to rape captives. When their own people have been caught on video, you know, sodomizing prisoners like Gazans that they’ve captured, they protest. And they don’t say it didn’t happen</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Out in the street.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, they said they turn out in the street to protest and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We should be allowed to sodomize them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Is there any other country in the world where you would get that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I think one of the interesting things about Trump, and this is sort of just one of my sort of notes on this, is that Trump came in as this “<em>art of the deal</em>”, wanting to put world peace on the table, get America out of the foreign wars that have dogged it for some time. And essentially what we’ve actually seen is quite the opposite. Trump actually does seem to be. And this isn’t meant to be a compliment, by the way, but it probably comes off as a little bit of a compliment. But he does seem to be sort of the ultimate ZOG warlord, doesn’t he? Trump as a guy, as a mad sort of emperor stood, you know, addressing his troops does seem to be a role that he slips into far more easily and readily than the role of peacemaker.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I’ve seen him in these interviews. I’ve seen him talking about future operations. I’ve seen the way he really does love having this power and being able to tell other nations to bow to him or else. And that’s what he’s saying, really, with Iran:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ll do what I say or I’m going to completely raze you to the ground!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now saying that, do you think there has ever been a more philo-semitic president? And following this, do you think this will change the way Americans vote in the future?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:37:45]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I doubt it. And there may have been more philo-semitic presidents, but certainly not in our time, or I mean, our time is in a time when I’ve been a, like an adult. I think I was 12 at the time when the first Gulf War started, when Bush rolled into Iraq and dragged Blair in and dragged the rest of the British people in. But it’s hard to imagine a more philo-semitic president.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think part of the problem is. Well, maybe it’s not a problem for them, although it might turn out to be, who knows, depending on how this thing goes, is that more and more people were just nakedly seeing it as that it’s like, why, what possible reason could the American people, like the people in America have for engaging in this terminal war with Iran? What possible cause do the British people have against the people of Iran? You know, flimsy excuses like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, they’re a terrorist nation and you know, they might at some point have a nuke!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This just doesn’t cut it. This isn’t a reason that sensible people would launch wars against people and go on these destructive campaigns against people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Sunni Pakistanis rape children. So we need to fight against them</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need to fight a Shia country, a Persian Shia country!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, absolute lunacy! But people, I think people genuinely understand more now. But this is just jews! This is a war for jews. It’s a war for Israel. And Trump is like deeply, deeply friends with the jewish paedophile who was the mover and shaker for the evil jewish paedophile regime. This is their guy. You know, he is their guy and he’s the guy who’s going to see this done. Not for you, not for your family, not for the American infrastructure, not for the home country and what it means for the future of America, but for Israel and for his jewish handlers. And people, I think, understand that. More and more people understand that, which is why this war is so unpopular.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> We see more and more people waking up to jewish power every day. And in America, I mean, you see mainstream Leftists like Ana Kasparian from the young Turks goes out and just says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The goyim are waking up! Deal with it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s amazing to see and it’s a great thing! But at the end of the day there’s no one for them to vote for. The two party system in America is so entrenched, they’re not going to have that option anytime soon to actually get out of it. I mean you’re just going to have a continuation of the same thing where you have presidents get elected and have lower and lower approval ratings, but the people just won’t believe it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> And that’s like you said, no other choice. And I’ll remind, you know, Mark was saying that President Trump ran on like a “<em>no foreign intervention, no foreign wars</em>” ticket. Certainly in 2016 he did. But every president has done that and most of the prime ministers and most of the regimes in this country have run on the same kind of, “<em>we’re not for foreign wars</em>”!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet every time there’s a foreign war on behalf of Israel and the jews, these people snap to. And all of a sudden it’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this war is justified. And this is a terrorist regime and Syria used Sarin gas on its people and Iran is a terrorist state and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these people know that foreign wars aren’t popular and you know, foreign wars within justifications, but foreign wars where there is literally no justification apart from the jews want us to do this, are extremely unpopular! And burn through the veil that these people use to hide what they do and kind of hide the levers they pull in order to get what they want.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s very interesting. And I do concur. I don’t think there is anyone else to vote for. But I’m not really here to correct anyone tonight. I think everyone’s made excellent points, but you are actually wrong that it was just, 2016. There are pictures floating around that I’ve actually shared showing with Trump and Vance stood together and it’s the kind of text around them is “<em>the peace ticket</em>”, you know, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’re voting first, you’re voting for peace!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what they ran on this time as well. And Trump did make these huge sort of overtures to the Nobel Committee, that he wanted the Nobel Prize Peace Prize, that he was going to stop these wars, which obviously he hasn’t done.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I think I’m probably guilty of paying less attention to the Trump campaign in 2022, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> when it was in 2016. But, yeah, I can well believe it. And I’ve heard, I’ve seen that in headlines, quoted for the peace ticket. And Trump lambasting Obama on Twitter at the time, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, Obama’s going to start a war in Iran because he’s such a terrible negotiator and he sucks at being a peaceful president.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like, yeah so many years later, you’re the guy. You’re the guy these people have activated to get this done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:43:07]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, indeed. And the next point, because we’re sort of getting towards what do we think’s going to happen?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But before we do that, I think one of the interesting things about this is we’ve seen, so there are a lot of, what can I call them, “<em>Shitbag influencers</em>” like Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil. I despise Andrew Neil! Fat, worthless toad! The day he has sort of a gigantic Coronary as he sat eating his sort of duck pate on his terrace in the south of France will be a good day for the world! That guy is always on the wrong side of everything. He wants to attack Iran, wanted all the Covid restrictions. I can’t remember him ever saying anything good. He is scum of the earth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But on the other side, we have seen this in interesting bipartisan pushback. We’ve seen Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Ana Kasparian. There has been this mass awakening to Israel! I mean, Tucker Carlson stood in front of Turning Point USA getting a standing ovation for saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel needs to get out of American politics!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>That is seismic. You know, he is still the biggest American political voice in terms of being an influencer. I think this is incredible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I was somebody that was quite happy for Trump to get in for a couple of reasons, but one of the reasons being that I believed that this would bring things to a head. I believe that the Trump regime would be the regime that accelerated things to a point where numerous people who had previously been extremely philo-semitic would end up coming out, breaking ranks, and there would be a mainstream acceptance of our points. I remember saying that, actually I was briefly invited on WarStrike, of all streams, the night of the election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, this isn’t a bad thing! Don’t have a cow over this basically. This is something that may well bring us certain benefits.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that we are sort of seeing this to a large degree now. What do you guys think about this? Because I can’t really remember the last time we’ve actually seen a such a bipartisan move against Israel. And it’s not just the ones I’ve mentioned. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been incredible! Tucker Carlson’s leading the charge with young Right-wing males and females. Turning Point USA, which used to be absolutely ZOGged, is now a hive of like counter-semitism, if you like.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And on top of all of that, having the absolutely delightful and wife ready material known as Ana Kasparian.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> She’s absolutely perfect! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Coming out for me!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What? What did you say Yuro?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> What did you say?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s a bit brown for me.</p>
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</div>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Get out! Booted from this stream!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know what? Do you know what? Yuro’s got this thing, right, where you show any girl who’s got the mildest amount of than, and he goes into some kind of like tail spin as if like White women have never ever set foot out of the house!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Are Armenians White?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> This one is. This one certainly is!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If she’s anti-semitic, she’s White! Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> The question is, Yuro, are you White? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Because the fact you’ve asked this of our lady in chief, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Perfect Queen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, a perfect Queen means maybe you’re, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I’m not as big as simp as you are mate!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Mate, there’s nothing simpy about loving Ana!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> a justified simpery.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s justified simpery. Yeah. And so why I like Ana as well is when she gets angry, she just doesn’t hold back, does she? She’s one of those people, sometimes watching somebody get really angry, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> There was a clip, there was a clip of her on Piers Morgan and she was like yelling at these like jews. There were like six of them on the panel and I think they were all jews apart from her and Piers Morgan. And she’s like yelling and screaming at them because they’re trying to dissemble and you know, do what “<em>aboutery</em>” about the killing in Gaza and the killing kids in Iran and stuff. And she’s really letting them have it! And she’s screaming at them. There was some like Boomer in the Facebook comments, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I tried to watch it but I couldn’t take the screeching!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just, I put underneath it, I was like:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I would listen to her scream about jews in my ear all night!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that is how I feel that like she has come out and when she does it? She does it! So if you’re screaming like some mad, sort of disheveled, for want of a better term, “<em>Karen</em>” and so you’re sort of mad because there was only, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Karen is a slur.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it is, but Karen can also, you know what I mean? You get some women who’ll go crackers over like the fact there’s only seven olives in there, you know, olive pasta. And the menu shows eight or something and they throw an absolute fit over it! But the way she blows up, it’s so attractive. She’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t give me this! You disgusting Zionist pig! You make me sick!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And she’s enunciating every one of her words and she’s not holding back either. She’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You child killing monsters!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s like righteous fury at the people she’s like, that’s been put up on these panel shows.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. Exactly! And when you’re watching it’s extremely attractive! It’s not sort of like I said, I know “<em>Karen</em>” is a bit of an anti-White slur, but it’s not Karen-esque. It’s not like an overly liberal White woman and who’s outraged because of something minor that normal people are like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, just pull yourself together.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The way she does it, I find it to be absolutely cracking! I love it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, that’s enough glazing of Ana Kasparian. I mean, look, can there ever be enough glazing about the Kasparian? That could be a two hour stream in itself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:49:33]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s for Yuro, apparently. I mean, Yuro’s not on the Kasparian train here, unfortunately. Maybe we’ll have to have a word with <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> after the stream.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> We have to, &#8230; You mean a beating? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> You’re going to a re-education camp.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> After the show in the green room, we give him a kicking!</p>
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<p>So what do you think of this bipartisan movement, though? I find it refreshing. I like it. And it’s got real gravitas. Because, look, I was on the David Duke show earlier and obviously I work with David probably more than anybody else in the world, for better or worse. And I love David! He’s a real character. He can be a bit difficult at times, but he’s a real character. But sadly, David does not have the influence he once had.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying that to sort of mock David or deride David. I’m just saying that as a statement of fact. But somebody like Ana Kasparian does have that power! She does have that gravitas, but so does Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, Tucker Carlson. Absolutely massive! And you’re watching these people tear in to the Zionist cause and attack these Warhawk jews. It is very refreshing! I mean, well, for me, it is anyway. I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I love it!</p>
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<p>I mean, how does this make you feel after all the years of being in the wilderness? Look, being in the wilderness is something that. I am still very much in the wilderness, despite all my hard work over the years, despite my incredible consistency. Like, if I’m not the perfect guy, okay, not by a long, long means, I am very good at debates, but I’m not the perfect guy. I have my foibles. I screw up, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Not good at controlling your temper.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I was gonna joke there by exploding at you!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’m not brilliant at controlling my temper, but one thing you’ve got to say for me is that throughout all these years, I have been extremely consistent in what I’ve stood for.</p>
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<p>Now, when it comes down to it, seeing these people, for me, anyway, come out and be sort of so, you know, completely anti-Israel. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen it. And it’s not just relying on, as I said, this isn’t to knock David, but it’s not just to rely on me and David Duke making the point anymore. You know, these points are being made by these more mainstream individuals who’ve got serious gravitas. And I actually like that. I think it’s something that I think is really important. Seeing Ana Kasparian and seeing all these others doing it. I think this has taken our message to a new crowd. And it’s interesting to see that there are people all over the political system who have had enough of Israel.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And I think having this kind of, it’s not perfect. The things they say aren’t perfect. Right. And the problem isn’t just Israel. And I think most people get that. And this isn’t to kind of pee on your cornflakes, Mark. But even the things they’re saying do give amount of headroom for anyone who’s less sizable and less influential from them to kind of push those boundaries a little bit more. And there is further to push.</p>
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<p>I mean, we shouldn’t be coming around the campfire at this stage to stretch your wilderness analogy. We should be trying to, we should still be in the wilderness telling the truth and putting the final truth to it. Because, like I said the things are saying are anti-Israel, which is like 90% of the way there, right?</p>
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<p>And like I said, giving headroom for more, not extreme, that’s not the word, but for a greater and more deep understanding to come forth.</p>
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<p>And I think that you are going to see from this war with Iran, you’re going to see a tranche of politicians and people emerge who are willing to say these things. And sure, amongst those people there are going to be shills and they’re going to be subversive people, but at some point it just becomes like a political football whether you support Israel and whether you’re going to do their bidding.</p>
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<p>I mean, one of the disappointing things with Rupert Lowe is he hasn’t really come out against, he hasn’t made a statement against Israel, which I’m sure none of us really expect, but now would be the perfect time for someone in his position to make that leap. We haven’t seen it yet, but I think this just pushes that football a little bit further down the road. You know, pushes the can a little bit further down the road to give space for that to happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I think every day that the Rupert Lowe goes out and doesn’t support Israel, even if he won’t explicitly say that he’s against them, obviously that’s giving us room and whatnot.</p>
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<p>But another thing, sort of talking about, obviously, the goyim waking up and Trump, I think it is great that we see all these people realizing the extent of jewish power.</p>
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<p>And I think Trump especially is to thank for it, because he is just so openly philo-semitic in a way that no previous president, even if they love jews as much as he does, they just wouldn’t do it so openly! You know, he goes out there and declares himself the King of Israel and he says this, that and the other. And it’s again, with the attack on Iran and the thing with Venezuela, there’s not even a pretence anymore. It’s just:</p>
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<p>They’re not having the pretence anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I don’t like to cut across people because we’ve all been pretty good at not cutting across people. But I just wanted to further your point. You know, when Trump does things which are so sort of egregious <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that you sort of wonder why he’s saying them. Like when he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh the Adelsons basically bought me the White House! So whenever they want to just walk in and ask for a policy to be passed, what am I gonna do? It’s the bloody Adelsons! They gave me about half a billion. How are you gonna say no to the people who gave you half a billion? Come on, guys, let’s get things going!”</span></h3>
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<p>You’re thinking to yourself:</p>
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<p>Most people would know which bits not to say out loud. You know, it’s like when you were a kid, your mom was like:</p>
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<p>You’d be like:</p>
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<p>But you wouldn’t be:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, actually, I spilt the water from the big vase, partially flooded the living room, spent ages dabbing it up, and have hid the stain under the mat!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because there’s part of it that you don’t say out loud, isn’t there? And there’s part that you say out loud. But Trump, he says it all out loud, and it becomes sort of so almost jarring to hear him say it, because for years, we’ve heard that politicians are bought, they’re sold. You know, powerful foreign forces pay for politicians to do their bidding. And here’s Trump just honestly saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s exactly what happens! I do it all the time! The Adelsons basically funded me, and I did everything for them. So when they want a policy, I give them!”</span></h3>
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<p>You don’t say that out loud, do you? You say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Adelsons are an important part of what we’re hoping to do, and no one has undue influence over me, but I’m happy to hear from them.”</span></h3>
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<p>He doesn’t do any of that. There’s no beating around the bush. He basically says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jew’s got me in. And when they want a policy passing, I give it to them!”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, is that refreshing to hear? For me, it is, because it confirms everything that we’ve always said.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, he is known for slurping up the “<em>juju come</em>”. As someone put in the chat earlier.</p>
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<p>I think the worrying thing is, or I guess it’s not worrying. I mean, it’s interesting. So there was like just this ground swell of JQ awareness, like Israel hatred after October 7th because of what Israel was doing to Gaza.</p>
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<p>And then the media gets to declare:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s a ceasefire, Gaza’s over. We can look away now. We can look away from the fact that Israel has been bombing hospitals and stuff.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because of the nature of the news cycle and everything else, people let it drop. And then this big orange slave, jew slave, Trump, comes along and starts a war with Iran, like, totally on behalf of his jewish handlers in Israel. And all of a sudden it’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, right, my awareness is shaking again.”</span></h3>
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<p>Like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Now there’s just another thing that’s like, cannot be ignored where we have to bring out this question again to the public and try and explain why this war for Israel isn’t anything to do with jews and is secretly about Russia.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or whatever else it is. You know, so, yeah, I mean, awareness, awareness rising!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So we pretty much wrapped up a lot of the things we were going to talk about. And we’ve already said that Israel has been proven through this not to be invincible.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s one of the key things here. At one point, Israel touted the Iron Dome. It touted their invincibility. I think this has shown something that’s very interesting. It’s highlighted that America is Israel’s lapdog! But it’s also highlighted that without America, Israel couldn’t exist. And that’s important, I think, for two reasons.</p>
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<p>There’s this symbolic idea of Israel being this invincible outpost in the Middle East that the Iron Dome protects and they can stand alone if necessary. I think Israel have been really undermined here, not just from a moral perspective, but from the view that they can be hurt, which is important. You know, one of the big things, if you’re ever in some kind of conflict, facing what appears to be an immovable or unstoppable enemy, to show that that enemy is, in fact, fallible and can be hurt is very important.</p>
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<p>And although we’ve hardly seen Israel sink into the Mediterranean, I do think the strikes on Israel have been significant from the point of view that it has shown them to be scared, that if they don’t have the West on their side, they can’t defend themselves.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, it’s like with October 7th. When October 7th happened, it showed the world that they’re not all powerful, they’re not all knowing, they’re not always just gonna win because they’ve got everything on lockdown. Their power does have limits. And there’s some amount of White nationalists who come out and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, no, they let that happen1 You know, they let that happen on purpose! That they have a reason to do this.”</span></h3>
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<p>But actually, it’s like you’re unwilling to believe that they just screwed up that badly.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, I’m not going to get into a big debate, but I actually believe they let that happen. I believe that that was part of their plan and gave them this imperative to do what they did in Gaza.</p>
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<p>However, I think Iran’s a different kettle of fish. I think that what we’re seeing with Iran here is something fundamentally much more damaging for them, because they have nothing to gain by letting Iran smash through the Iron Dome. They have nothing that they can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this gives us the moral imperative to do X.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because in the case of Iran, they’ve already done X, haven’t they? X has already been committed to, it’s already been carried out.</p>
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<p>So I think there’s different things here.</p>
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<p>But look, let’s wrap this up and we’re going to wrap this up before we do the questions and answers. If anyone wants to Superchat. If you’ve enjoyed the stream, please consider sending a Superchat. But we’re going to wrap this up with, obviously we’ve said this is for the Greater Israel Project and we’ve talked about the political ramifications around the world for America, for Russia, for China, for future conflicts.</p>
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<p>But one thing we haven’t talked about is the political ramifications here in Britain. Now, obviously Starmer hasn’t embroiled himself and he’s made the right choice in that case, but probably for the wrong reasons. Rather than doing this because he doesn’t want to serve Israel, he’s done this because he doesn’t want to turn the Muslim bloc vote against him any further because he fears losing the next general election.</p>
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<p>But what we can see here, or what I see here, is a major problem with refugees and they’re talking about potentially two, &#8230; There was the, I think it was the Telegraph that stated this. The calculation is that 2.5 million people will be displaced from the region due to this conflict. At the present time, that number could obviously rise and they’re all going to be coming to Europe, they’re not going to be going to Israel.</p>
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<p>And I’ve always described this as sort of the twin evils of Israel. On one hand, Israel menaces, murders, maims, terrorizes states in the Middle East for its own gain and to maintain dominance in the region. However, the blowback is never for Israel! The blowback of all this ends up hitting Western nations who take the refugees or the people that are displaced.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s the final piece of the puzzle, that the Greater Israel Project makes Israel more powerful, but by extension due to the knock on effect, it weakens the West, it pushes us closer to a demographic shift that will be unrecoverable and fundamentally takes us a step nearer to being a minority in our ancestral homelands!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, destabilising its immediate neighbours, like I said earlier, destabilising its immediate neighbours with missiles and bombs and gayops and all the rest of it, is a short timescale. But destabilising European countries with mass immigration and kind of ethnic cleansing and all the rest of that, that’s still just destabilisation. It’s just on a longer time scale. And I alluded to this earlier, but the Israeli gayops and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 operation, well I mean it was the open British government was just aiding like terrorists in Libya, overthrowing Gaddafi. Gaddafi had an agreement with Italy where Italy would pay him to stop, just endless floods of migrants crossing the Mediterranean into Europe. And Israel uncaring that that was in place or seeing that actually destroying that was a good thing because it helped destabilise everything, not just Europe, but top to Libya, decided to enact you know, plans against Gaddafi that ended with him, like I said, with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street.</p>
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<p>And that led to the migration crisis in 2015, 2014, 2015, which is ongoing today. And I just posted in the private chat there because I just looked this up, Morgoth’s Law, which was spoken by Morgoth himself:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No matter where the conflict is in the world, the refugees coming to Europe will be fighting age black and brown men!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s going to hold true for this conflict.</p>
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<p>Now that might be coincidental in other cases but certainly with Iran this is the double, not the double edged sword but like the win-win situation for Israel. They get to destabilise nations by direct war against their like direct competitors. But they also get to destabilise their so-called “<em>allies</em>” in terms of European nations in America with all these displaced people who then through their human rights groups and refugee groups and these kind of NGOs get to set up migration routes into the countries who are supposedly their allies that they help destabilise. The knock on for politics in this country, unfortunately there won’t be much because we don’t have much of a choice. And if Reform was in power at the moment it would probably be just balls out gung-ho for Israel. So what choice do you have in this country? I mean it’s probably less than anywhere else.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I will say though, I think Yuro is right in what he said. Every day that Rupert Lowe spends not endorsing Israel is a victory from our point of view. You know, I know that might sound like a cucky thing to say, but it has been so long since we’ve had anybody in any form of position of genuine power who hasn’t immediately been a slave to Israel. And it’s one of the things that Tommy Robinson’s been quite upset actually by a number of things Rupert Lowe has said and done. I don’t know if you saw, but Tommy Robinson said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, Rupert Lowe needs to clarify whether black people can be British. Rupert Lowe needs to clarify his position on all these things!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, I find that very interesting because that suggests that Tommy and his handlers are getting quite nervous that Rupert isn’t going to be the Zio lap dog they hoped he would.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, the kind of the cucked civnat stuff that always bends towards this like piss-weak conservatism, as we’ve seen with Reform, where it just turns out they’re just as I mean they’re not really even civic nationalists, they’re just Conservatives in that anyone’s British, anyone who steps foot on this island is British.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I mean funnily enough, Tommy wrote, those questions from Tommy Robinson he tried to put to Rupert Lowe:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re in the wake of the Iran war starting and Rupert Lowe not coming out in support of Israel.”</span></h3>
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<p>And all of a sudden here you’ve got Tommy Robinson popping up like fresh from snorting up lines of coke on a mirror somewhere in America asking him about the same, well as pulling the same gay ops that he tried with the BNP all those years ago, which you know about very well, Mark.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And after hopping off his private jet with his son, who’s posting about it on Instagram while he begs for money from poor White people who haven’t got a dime to scrape together.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, Tommy Robinson, just to reiterate, is absolute scum! He is scum! Everything out of Tommy Robinson’s mouth is like a jewish handler somewhere. And that has become more and more clear! There’s no like, no intersection of lines from real dissidency in this country in the West. And Tommy Robinson, this is like a literal jewish mouthpiece being paid by Israel to say the things he does.</p>
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<p>And if you think there’s some part of Tommy that’s still good or some part of him that’s still worth listening to, then you simply haven’t been paying attention. And you need to, I don’t know, get with the programme or get your head right, because he’s evil, he’s terrible, and he’s a scumbag!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I concur.</p>
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<p>So I think we’ve had a pretty robust chat. We’re going to do the Superchats in a couple of seconds. If you want a Superchat, please do.</p>
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<p>But I’ll say this, I think in conclusion. I’ve said this many times before, but the judeo-American empire is the greatest threat to the world!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And I’ve said they are the great Satan!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it’s not just the greatest threat, is it to White people. Now we obviously are fundamentally our thoughts are for White people. That’s the most important thing for us, that we look after people of European descent.</p>
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<p>However, it’s not just people of European descent that suffer under the judeo-American State. Obviously Arabs suffer immensely.</p>
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<p>And a lot of the problems created by the judeo-American States, actions such as these unnecessary wars, these toppling of sovereign regimes, the murder of government leaders in foreign countries, like Colonel Gaddafi. And look, when we say this, we’re not saying that Colonel Gaddafi is our hero or that we loved everything he did, but he was stopping millions of people passing through his country and entering Europe. And I’m sure that when he was toppled, there were many people within the Israeli regime and many leading jews in America and Europe that were very happy that there was going to be even more migrants headed to Europe.</p>
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<p>And I believe that the only real way that the world can achieve freedom is for the judeo-American Empire to fall. I don’t know whether you guys agree with that. Obviously have 30 seconds each to sum up, or a minute or whatever you need.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s totally correct! And that is the line of, like I said a second ago, real dissidency, and this kind of rightoid, Right-wing, edgy conservatism. Like you said, the judeo-American Empire is the threat, is the problem! And if you’re not willing to say that, if you’re not willing to like cheer on its losses, then you’re not on the same level as you should be. I mean, you’re not where you should be. And I’m sure everyone listening to this is pretty much there, but those are the lines. There’s not a Left, Right, divide. There’s not a third Worldist, whatever it is, divide. It’s just you’re either hoping for this evil entity to fail or you’re not at this point. But, and we’re seeing, hopefully we’re seeing part of it sailing here. We’re going to see it fail more and more.</p>
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<p>So that’s what I’m looking forward to. Not just that, but the visceral feeling when you, like you said, see a cluster munition raining down on Tel Aviv, feels good too. So enjoy it.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> White people the world over shall not be free until organised jewry is disempowered! Inshallah!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> was the most concise you’ve been all night mate. Superb!</p>
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<p>So, yeah, I think it’s been a very productive stream this evening.</p>
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<p>And I think we’ve talked about a lot of things that people would want us to talk about. And without being boastful, I think that tonight we’ve kind of hit on more or less every major point, unless we haven’t.</p>
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<p>But I think we put a lot of effort, obviously into ensuring that we did hit every major talking point tonight. And this was the, probably, I’d say the most comprehensive coverage of this particular issue that anyone will get. So I’m hoping that you guys enjoyed it. And we are going to do the Superchats now.</p>
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<p>So thank you to everyone who has Superchatted. And if you haven’t, there is obviously still time. And remember, if you do send a financial contribution, it’s gratefully received because it’s what allows me to keep doing things like this and doing these streams.</p>
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<p>Anyway, Mr. Skywalker gave $3. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<p>And he goes on with another $3 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It appears ZOG is carpet bombing civilian structures in Iran now, as many military bases and missile sites are up to a thousand feet below ground, very difficult to destroy. Do you think ZOG will use ICBMs?”</span></h3>
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<p>I think we’ve said that actually that fundamentally we are seeing probably a better sort of defense than people may have initially thought. However, obviously going up against the judeo-American empire is absolutely not an easy thing to do they are doing better than we thought.</p>
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<p>And interestingly, the Americans are already resorting to these horrific tactics of bombing civilian structures. Do you think Trump would go as far as using an ICBM?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s possible. You know, who knows? At every juncture where you think Trump isn’t going to do something, you know, sometimes, well, quite often he will just go ahead and do it. The problem with nukes is, one that’s a line that if you cross has real implications. If you drop a nuke on a country just because you started a war and are then subsequently losing that war,</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If you started a war to stop them having nukes and then when you have lost you use them!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, it kind of undermines, it’s a massive red line. Like I said, probably implications that none of us even can think about at this stage.</p>
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<p>The second thing is, nukes, for all this talk of tactical nukes, they’re a surface weapon. You detonate them above ground. So they don’t really, in this war against Iran, they don’t really have like a tactical purpose and they would only be used to destroy, like, surface, weak, soft civilian targets, like cities. I mean, nukes are designed to be used on cities that are all like massed troop build-ups, which Iran doesn’t have. So morally it would be reprehensible and tactically it’d be stupid. Although it would just, it would literally just be against civilians. To use them in this war would be like, against civilian targets.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, it wouldn’t benefit them one bit. And there’s no way that Russia and China would not respond to it. And that’s not saying that they would launch nukes themselves, but there would have to be some kind of bigger response from them. To get more actively involved.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I think Natty hit the real point here. The only time nukes have ever been used are on civilian targets. They are not a weapon that is used really for military sites. There’s all this talk of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, people have got tactical nukes now, and a tactical nuke does this and the fallout’s not as great.”</span></h3>
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<p>And we’ve heard all of these sort of takes before, but fundamentally the only proven use for a nuke is to be used against a civilian target. That’s just the way it is.</p>
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<p>And I personally believe that if the Americans did this and took it down that route, it would be this fundamental turning point that I’m not sure the world could recover from that you know, it’s happened obviously twice before and it was horrific what the Americans did to the Japanese. But to do it now and for America to be doing it because they started the war and it wasn’t going their way, I think the world would change in a way that we probably couldn’t actually completely understand right now! But I don’t think it will go nuclear.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for the two Superchats, though. Ruins in a Landscape gave $50. Thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. Bay of Kings gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<p>One of his devices has come unconnected, it says on the screen. I’m sure he’ll be back. Arab Social Nationalist gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thoughts on the spectacle of the Nigerian leader of the opposition, Olukemi Olufuntu Adagoki Badenok and Farage arguing that Starmer hasn’t done enough for the Yanks. There is no opposition in the British establishment. Ignore a whisper of dissent in Parliament. War for jews unites the establishment.”</span></h3>
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<p>I think this is very interesting. And obviously Badenock and Farage are looking at what got Trump to power. Now, fundamentally, Farage and Badenok are both out of power at the moment and I think they’re both kissing up to Israel as much as they can, hoping that that will be their ticket to a Trump style run at Parliament. And let’s face it, although at the moment Farage is the favourite to win the next general election, that can all change. And he is looking at sort of shoring up his position. But Kemi Badenok is looking at going into a general election where she will be decimated.</p>
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<p>So it is interesting to see both Badenoch and Farage fighting to see who can be the most philo-semitic on this particular issue.</p>
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<p>But I’ll say this, and this isn’t meant to be like a cold way to leave the stream, or a black pill at the end or anything of the sort. But there are still an awful lot, and I call them Boomers because they generally are from that sort of age bracket. Now, it’s not to say all Boomers are evil, but there generally is this sort of Boomer mentality of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, bomb them all! Get rid of the Arabs! We need to support Israel! They’re our greatest ally!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that rhetoric does still appeal to, I would say, a sizable portion of the Boomer population.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I agree. And because they don’t really want to think about it and the implications of it. So looks like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, something else is going on. Well, to hell with them all! Just blow them all up! Bloody Arabs!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s a cultivated mentality. That’s not an accident that people say things like that and think things like that. This callous, cold, bloodthirsty, you know, mentality that’s been instilled in people through, I mean, basically like a real use of the term racism, where it’s:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, Arabs are like dirty brown people and killing them anywhere is good!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s like well, a normal human being, a moral human being doesn’t actually think that way. And if you’ve been led into thinking that some like, cartoon villain version of like, I don’t know, like a Western man, is ridiculous and retarded and immoral, and the people who put that idea in your head have taken a long time to do it, but have succeeded, if you come out making statements like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And to the extent that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon, it’s as a result of having the Pakistani rape gangs that jewish people and organisations brought here and having the Sunni Wahhabi terrorists who are created by the funding of Saudi Arabia and Israel’s allies.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, yeah, when Israel needed a recruiting ground for ISIS to destabilise Syria, they just used our country. And the overspill where like little girls were getting blown up in concerts or people were getting stabbed on London Bridge, that was exceptional.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s just a bonus to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, that was just like a little side project for them.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much, guys. We’ll go on to the next Superchat. It’s from Tomorrow’s Victims who gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The vast majority of us here in Yank land do not want the stupid war. Cheers to all my UK people.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10. Thank you so much! And he subscribed for $10. Well, that’s much appreciated. Remember, you can subscribe to me over on Entropy and Rumble, and that means you make a monthly donation.</p>
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<p>And obviously on Entropy you can subscribe for any amount and Rumble is fixed, $5. But on Rumble, we’ve got a good number of subs now, a good number of followers, and if we had sort of 4 or 500 subs, that would just be phenomenal! And obviously it would really help me financially and it wouldn’t really make a massive difference to people as $5 is what, the price of a large can of Red Bull these days. But if enough people did that, it’d make a huge difference to me.</p>
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<p>We also have one Superchat over on Rumble, only one tonight, and it’s from Archie P007. Thank you so much! Okay, $5. And you said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I was all in with Trump, the great awakening and all that he has sold his soul for Israeli gold. No one wins a war, only the people suffer always. Follow the money. Trump is Israel first, it seems.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, yeah, I mean, I obviously, I completely agree with that. Trump is Israel first. And Trump is someone who is absolutely committed to Israel, I think, in a way that I’m not sure we’ve ever seen before. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a president this committed to the state of Israel, which is obviously interesting in itself to say that, to say we’ve never had a president that is this committed to Israel, but he certainly is.</p>
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<p>And at the moment, he is proving his loyalty to that nation to an unbelievable point! And whether this works for him in the long run or not, who knows? But I think it’s fair to say that he is risking everything for his loyalty to people who, &#8230;</p>
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<p>And the interesting thing with these people is they did not support him when he was out in the wilderness. One of the interesting things with Trump is when he was saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, the election was rigged.”</span></h3>
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<p>Netanyahu was actually the first foreign leader to say to Biden, to congratulate Biden on his victory. Can you remember that? I mean, Trump went mental about that at the time because he thought Netanyahu was his best friend. But it just goes to show, Trump isn’t actually. Well, he doesn’t actually have any principles whatsoever, does he? Trump is actually a guy that the Israelis can kick him, they can treat him like he’s their boy, their little dog. And when it comes down to it, he will take it time and again.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I mean the only difference, just to add the only difference is how open it is now. I mean, like I said earlier, the other president have probably done everything to the detriment of their own people on behalf of Israel. But Trump is just open about it and everyone gets it and everyone knows now and he’s just still ploughing ahead with it. So there’s the difference with this one.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Anything to add Yuro?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> No, no, I think we’ve covered most of that already.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, well look, that brings us to the end of the stream.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much to everyone who has been here and obviously if you haven’t Superchatted and you’re watching this on replay, you can donate anytime you like on replay.</p>
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<p>And if you do support these streams, especially these long form discussions which take a reasonable amount of time to prepare and we put a lot of effort into, please do consider sending a Superchat and we will keep doing them. Anyway guys, if you want to say good night, we’ll go around the group and then we will wrap things up.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Night guys. I have been looking at the chat and there’s been a lot of like pretty decent discussion in there. So I appreciate everyone who’s been here and you know, it’s good, it’s good getting all this down and talking about this because a lot of this stuff is beyond the kind of political divide that you see in this country between even nationalists who say things like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I don’t care about either side and they can kill each other!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s like the best you can hope for out of supposed Right-wingers and dissidents in this country. But I think a sober analysis and a sober talk about what it all means and what’s happening is worthwhile. So thanks to you two and thanks to the chat for turning up and I’ll see you around.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, thanks for having me on. It’s been a good talk with both of you. Obviously we do get a bit of this chat going on with the A-Team, which I’m no longer going to be with because Sam’s back unless I’m a stand-in when someone’s away. But it was good to talk about this stuff. And maybe going forward I will get back into doing some sort of show again on my own. Maybe I’ll revive TASOB. Who knows?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Be very happy if you revived TASOB, buddy. So look forward to it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, thank you to both of you, it’s been a great chat. I just want to wrap things up by saying thank you to everybody.</p>
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<p>Well, thank you first to Natty and Yuro for giving up their evenings. You know, obviously we enjoy doing this. We’re friends in real life and I think we’ve got pretty good chemistry and I think it’s been a pretty entertaining stream. I would also like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated. Remember, you can donate at any point you wish.</p>
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<p>And finally, a massive thank you to everybody who tuned in. We had really good attendance night. Lots of people tuning in, lots of people enjoying the stream and a really sort of quick, moving, interesting discussion on both the Odysee and the Rumble chat.</p>
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<p>So thank you to everyone who participated.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I won’t be back on Sunday. It was unlikely I’ll be back on Sunday because it was my son’s birthday this week and we’re having a little party for him on Sunday. So that will likely be something that may run on and I don’t really want to be rushing through that to do a Sunday night film review or stream. I probably just want to enjoy just a little bit of family time, which I’m sure no one begrudges me. And I will be doing that.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I’ll be back on Wednesday for Patriotic Weekly Review. Until then, thank you everybody, good night and look after yourselves.</p>
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<p>Mark Collett<br />
9 days ago<br />
Pinned by @MarkCollett<br />
If you would like to contribute to my work:<br />
https://entropystream.live/app/markcollett</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
On YT comments, I&#8217;ve noticed more people seem to be realising that Kosher Tommy&#8217;s brand of Nationalism is fraudulent &amp; serves no purpose to British people.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Like the English, the Iranians have no other country. Resistance is the only option.</p>
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Aspect of Divinity<br />
5 days ago<br />
I pray to God that the Iranian people succeed in their war against the Zionists and their Western puppets</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
A safe rule: Never get into bed with the Jew</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
I have a cousin that married a Jewess. He is dead to me. I used to talk to his Mom frequently and she would complain how his wife basically ended Christmas in their family and how she&#8217;s rarely allowed to see her grandchild. I eventually told her &#8220;well what do you expect, he married a Jew&#8221;. She won&#8217;t talk to me anymore lol. My whole family is a bunch of sleepers, but that particular family is fuked. Her other son adopted a South Korean baby when he could have adopted a White baby. I&#8217;m done with that whole family.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Not a good move, I guess people who are not race-conscious fall into this trap,<br />
they probably believe &#8216;It&#8217;s just a religion&#8217; and end up with an ugly contaminated baby</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
Especially someone who marries a Jew, not much you can do there, especially once kids are involved. Even if they subconsciously start to realize their mistake, not only will they never attribute it to the spouse being a Jew, but they are caught in a bind not easily remedied. Same with White people who adopt non-White kids. Dead to me. If there was any possibility to fixing them in the past, that possibility is long gone.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Imagine working out their Holo story is BS, but having to go along with it for the rest of your life because the wife is Jewish! lol</p>
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I have my doubts my cousin would ever believe at any point that the holo story is a hoax. An old friend of my family also has a son who married a Jewess and from what I know about the 2 families, they are identical &#8211; the Jewess wears the pants, the family is Jewish to the core and Whiteness and Christianity has been stripped away. It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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<p>@Theos19<br />
6 days ago<br />
Sounds like jgew hollywood did its work well on that family bro, sorry to hear this. There is nothing more shameful for a white man than to have a mixed breed child. Adopting another child not of your race is one of the most cucked things you can do. Raising another mans offspring with resources that should be for your own &#8211; how f-cking cucked is that. Someone else fcked your girl and put a kid in her, and you are raising their kid LOL. I was in the queue for the checkout once and I got caught staring at a man with his yellow wife (fat b-tch) and his mixed breed freakish looking son, I was with my wife and son around the same age. I couldn&#8217;t help but stare, it was like looking at a crash at the side of the road, or someone freakish you know? The cashier had to call me out and ask if she could help. After he noticed me the guy looked crestfallen and his yellow wife didn&#8217;t have any respect for him whatsoever lol.</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
I’m ashamed to admit that I started out as anti jihad, solely because of my job… I tried to rescue English girls from Pakistani Muslims who were mass raping torturing them, I did 20 years in my profession and saw the government as 100% anti White, anti English in every way. Mark et al helped me understand the truth!</p>
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<p>@Theos19<br />
6 days ago<br />
Were you a social worker? I recall some of your comments on live chats over the years, harrowing stuff. Thank you for trying to stand up to evil. God will recognize his own.</p>
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Yes for 20 years! I did rescue many English girls, the youngest was age 8! The government is extremely anti White.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
Purim explained&#8230;<br />
&#8220;One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth, is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther, and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King&#8217;s minister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said, did not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them. Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies were slaughtered, including Haman&#8217;s ten sons, who were hanged. This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony, intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called &#8220;Haman&#8217;s Ears,&#8221; revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew in our midst&#8221;<br />
JRM by Arnold Leese</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
The Young Turks, Anna K and all that group are not &#8220;awakening&#8221;. They are still anti-White and that will never change. While Anna does have harsh words for Jews as well as Israel, she and TYT are still anti-White libtards. Please stop blowing a load in your shorts because you think she&#8217;s hot. It is, indeed, simp behavior and quite embarrassing for us all.<br />
She is/They are ANTI-WHITE. Got it?<br />
Covington was right. Being pro-White is something Whites have a really hard time doing, even those that are racially conscious.</p>
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Judy_Izzum<br />
8 days ago<br />
anti-white or not, she is still the guest of honour at my hand party</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
Civ Nat = Kosher Nationalism</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump comes from the jewish community. He has been around them his entire life. They made his career in realestate in New York. He has belonged to them his whole adult life.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Remember: these jews bombed Qatar to kill Hamas&#8217;s chief negotiator. They&#8217;re out of control, and they cannot be negotiated with.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s not that they don&#8217;t think about it: the British establishment is actively antagonistic towards native British people; it&#8217;s not indifference, it&#8217;s active malice.</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Jews, Muslims, darkies in general. They all gotta go</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
Next false flag: Nuclear attack on USA, EU country or both. Could be an EMP nuke instead of ground attack.<br />
Lots of dissent for this war on both sides of political aisle, they need something like a &#8220;9/11&#8221; to force more Westerners to support the war. Approval is falling hard. They need a false flag event. Also would &#8220;justify&#8221; nuking Iran.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
8 days ago<br />
Shalom</p>
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9 days ago<br />
Excellent episode title. Spot-on. Thanks for your incredibly important work, Mark.</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS HE SHITS HIMSELF AT THE BOMB SHELTER!</p>
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<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
yes I know a jew was in charge of the Armenian genocide. And the fact that Armenians are Christians made it so much enjoyable for the jews.</p>
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<p>@Natty<br />
I like that the left woke up to the jq but make no mistake they still hate white men. And want white genocide.</p>
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8 days ago<br />
The left did not &#8220;wake up to the Jewish question&#8221;. They still love and defend Jews. They do not see the Israel problem as a Jewish problem, they see it as a White Supremacy problem. I know it all sounds so contradictory and stupid, but that is what you get with a brainwashed group of people. They only oppose and support what they are told to, without thinking about it.</p>
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Prison Ships<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Honourable Pastor Chuck Baldwin leads +40k AntiZionist Christians out of Liberty Fellowship Montana.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tommy Robinson drives a Bentley, all while his rightoid followers pay for his &#8220;legal fund&#8221;.</p>
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8 days ago<br />
The likes are 101 and they need to be 109! Or 110, 111 etc</p>
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Edelweiß<br />
8 days ago<br />
Unless Judeo-Christian civilization is destroyed, the European race will die. Crush Jehovah! Hail Jupiter and give us victory!</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
We Whites must destroy the enemy race; they have relentlessly been attempted to destroy us for centuries! We Whites, of European descent must end this madness for the sake of all humanity.</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
it was a bit like watching the A-Team but without the game and gay dancing tbf</p>
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Natty<br />
9 days ago<br />
night guys</p>
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9 days ago<br />
Cheers goyim \o</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
Remember before the 2016 election when the bell end said he would re-investigate 9/11 if he ever got into power</p>
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Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
most people dont have real opinion at all. they all hope that it goes away and they can forget about it like they did for the last 80 years or so.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Decades of Hollywood propaganda had a big part in it.</p>
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well done lads, I&#8217;ve learned a lot tonight</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
Me too, watching on replay! My friends dog is healing well, and has thoroughly enjoyed the chicken , skin and stock .</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Imagine a future Britain that has normal relations with foreign countries. It&#8217;s not asking for much.</p>
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9 days ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
&#8211; Starmer SAYS he&#8217;s not getting involved, but as we know from Gaza, he can assist Israel secretly. Don&#8217;t be quick to believe his public stance.</p>
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<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@VesselofGrace<br />
I may have to return to my roots. lol</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;Peace through perpetual war, goyim!&#8221;</p>
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<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
No Iranian ever called me a goyim</p>
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MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t like this new term &#8220;Epstein regime&#8221; it takes away from &#8220;ZOG&#8221;, which is much more poignant.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
&#8220;ZOG&#8221; deters from Jew though.</p>
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Bronze Green Oakwood<br />
5 days ago<br />
“I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen”<br />
That came out of nowhere, nearly spat out my drink there.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago(edited)<br />
&#8220;We tried the internet and spent years tapping to one another on keyboards, because we bought into the idea that ‘education’ was the answer, and if we could just get the truth to people, then things would change. Well, education without action isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit. We got the truth to people, all right, and it turned out to be nothing but a bunch of noise that was simply ignored, because the internet was where it stayed. Nobody ever did anything except tap on keyboards. Tapping on keyboards was no threat to them, we just let off steam and nothing changed. It is now crystal clear to any white man with two brain cells to rub together that the only thing that will make these dogs in power hear the word no is the sound of&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Brigade</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They are banking on the Americanisation of British politics, and I think they&#8217;re miscalculating.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
You&#8217;re not as much in the wilderness as you think, Mark. It&#8217;s the Dissident right that has moved the mainstream to the Jewish Question.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t lend a jew my lighter, much less die for him. Imagine it.</p>
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9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
His father before him was the exact same.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
Iran, in principle, doesn&#8217;t want to be anyone&#8217;s vassal. They want mutually beneficial relationships, not to be a junior partner.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
This relationship with Russia is new. Historically, Iran didn&#8217;t have options for buying a new airforce, plus they&#8217;re fixated on developing their own capabilities.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The jew stands atop a pile of dead children and declares &#8220;AND WHAT, GOY?&#8221;</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The strength of the jew is that he is bold, and he is willing to shock the enemy with acts of depravity that are unthinkable for normal people.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
There&#8217;s no nobility in Western leadership anymore. These decrepit democracies have allowed the lowest filth of society to take power. Good men, sound men, competent men, are locked out of power.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
You can&#8217;t be pro-White and drive wedges between Western countries the way Trump does. He&#8217;s a diplomatic vandal.</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol.. its a fun song</p>
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<p>@Germanicus<br />
9 days ago<br />
Purimfest 2026, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m calling it</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Howdy good folk</p>
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Natty<br />
9 days ago<br />
howdy troops</p>
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<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago<br />
Lana Loktef or Anna K&#8230;.choose one</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago(edited)<br />
Dumb question on a channel like this. Anna K is a commie leftist no matter what her views<br />
are on Israel and even Jews. She still believes Whites are evil. She is Anti-White! Lana, on the other hand, it 100% OUR PEOPLE. So, again, dumb question.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re White enough, for goodness sake.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago(edited)<br />
I generally like your comments, but as semite you&#8217;re non-White thus you have no place defining who is and is not &#8220;White&#8221;. That is OUR turf. Respect the boundaries (pun intended).</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews rock</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
I LOVE JEWS</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
bruh jews rock</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
wtf</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews behind it all????</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
gubbermints</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
bayonet up the bum is gonna feel like a good option</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
This comment was slimed to death. (Click to view)</p>
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&#8211; 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 &#8211;<br />
8 days ago<br />
Maybe not all you Jews are paedophiles, but enough are that we can make these generalizations.</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
brutal</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
maybe switch every episode between players so all can play?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
good night volks</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
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<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
That seems like an age ago</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Boomers-of-the-soul, I call them. And they are mostly evil. It&#8217;s okay to say so.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump is capable of going nut and ordering a nuclear strike. He kept asking about it during his first term, apparently.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
I believe nuclear false flag first on USA, EU or bother, then they blame Iran and will nuke Iran.</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
hahaha</p>
<p>Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
As far as the &#8221; Greater Israel &#8221; is concerned, Israel has every right to annexe terriories from Judea and Samaria,not because of &#8221; biblical rights &#8221; but because ever since Israel was created has faced constant aggressive wars from its neighbours..<br />
When an aggresor wages a war and looses he has to pay a price.<br />
Palestinians had many chances to create their own state yet they rejected everyone.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
&#8220;ever since Israel was created&#8221;<br />
The creation of Israel was itself the original massive aggression which initiated all the interminable ongoing wars and unrest.<br />
&#8220;Palestinians had many chances to create their own state&#8221;<br />
The Zionists would never allow any viable, truly independent Palestinian state to arise. Such an option has never been on the negotiating table. The Zionist maximalists were determined to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestine begun with the Nakba right from the beginning. Such hardliners have been openly running Israeli governments since Likud was first elected in 1977, and even before that exercised power from behind the scenes. For example, the creation of the Israeli nuclear weapon capability led by Shimon Perez at the behest of Ben Gurion; and the hardliner initiation of the 1967 Six Day War to take control of the West Bank and Golan Heights.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
8 days ago<br />
So you think that when Israel was created in 1948 ,by concetration camps survivors and a few others and was attacked by 5 Arab countries ,it was able to conduct an aggressive war.Ok</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago<br />
So you guys think that if Israel is destroyed, UK and USA will be safer with the goat loving Agiadolahs, who beleive martyrdom and the 72 virgins ,being in charge of Iran&#8217;s nuclear arsenal.<br />
That&#8217;s fine.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
The only reason Muslims pose even the slightest threat to the US or UK is because Jewish-led elites have mass imported them into the US and UK as part of their Great Replacement. The Great Replacement is the Jewish master strategy for stealing White nations from their people. It is not merely Muslims being mass imported. It is infinity non-Whites, both Muslim and non-Muslim.<br />
Jewish supremacism is the fundamental problem, never part of the solution.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
8 days ago<br />
Wow .I didnt know that the Pakistanis and the Somalians are in the UK because of Israel. Thank you for letting me know.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
Pakistanis and other immivaders are in the UK because of powerful British Jews and the treasonous elites like Tony Blair who are allied with them. Jewish supremacism includes but is very far from being limited to Zionism.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
7 days ago<br />
Blair brought the Pakistanis <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
ok.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
7 days ago<br />
You really are clueless about history. There were some Pakistanis in Britain before Blair but it was Blair&#8217;s New Labor government which opened the floodgates to mass non-White immigration into the UK. I recall reading an article by Keith Woods a few years ago about this. He quoted statistics.</p>
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TDOF<br />
5 days ago<br />
Read:<br />
https://archive.org/details/the-death-of-fragility-2nd-edition_202507</p>
<p>@ゼロHope<br />
6 days ago<br />
1:37:25<br />
It is far more accurate to say Trump is saying, do as a I say and i&#8217;ll shot. There is no out option for Iran. It&#8217;s like &#8220;shame they won&#8217;t come to the table&#8221; but also Unconditional surrender, and we blew up the table and the guy negotiating with us.<br />
There is nothing to negotiate. This is like the last time we attacked Iran, Trump started with the negotiating position of, &#8220;bomb yourself.&#8221; What is there to even to discuss? Especially after killing the pope-king of shia islam. You can&#8217;t simply do that, declare victory and leave. Everything of value with in striking distance, Iran will strike. They have choice, they couldn&#8217;t surrender if they wanted to.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Ben Gavir currently in hospital and his house burning. so yes, we have seen such attacks</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
they did hit one of the carriers with a drone, but they moved them too far away. why dont you know anything about what you are trying to talk about?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Russia can&#8217;t produce infinite airplanes! come on! they don&#8217;t even have enough planes for their own war</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Russia is helping and Russia has made many public statements, they are just not covered. before the whole thing started every day Russia was sending plane after plane of weapons to them. Russia also spoke to Trump today and seems to have warned him they won&#8217;t let the US topple the government. right after Trump started talking about backing out.</p>
<p>@Kubatism<br />
8 days ago<br />
You are probably right, but the Venezuelan stuff also points to a broader context not discussed here &#8211; the China future war. All Chinese allies: Russia (bogged down in Ukraine), Venezuela (oil), Iran (supports Russian war effort and oil) you’ve got South Africa next (the current Afrikaner emigration policy of US, Ramaphosa humiliated) you’ve got only Brazil and India left &#8211; and India won’t help China</p>
<p>Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
I love listening to Mark, Natty and Yuro! Actually real information about what’s going on! I pray that Isreal is nuked!</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
ALOHA SNACKBAR</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Warren Balogh is the master of this line of thinking</p>
<p>@Natty</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Colonel&#8217;s Fried Chicken was the best</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
9 days ago<br />
https://rocketreach.co/orla-minihane-email_748059991</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
DIdn&#8217;t he mention Ian Wright in particular?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
In British politics, crumbs from politicians feel like a slap up meal, alas.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
That agreement still has legal force in Libya, if the EU decides to keep up their part.</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
i dont though</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
dawson agrees with you mark</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I think every leader will get assassinated that are against jews. Remember that Austrian far right prime minister that was killed in a strange car crash?</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
Jörg Haider, killed in a car crash in 2008 while leading the polls in elections to the Austrian parliament.<br />
&#8220;[Haider] was Governor of Carinthia on two occasions, the long-time leader of the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ) and later Chairman of the Alliance for the Future of Austria (Bündnis Zukunft Österreich, BZÖ), a breakaway party from the FPÖ&#8230;.. Haider died in a car accident shortly after leading the BZÖ in the 2008 Austrian parliamentary elections.&#8221;<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s because he&#8217;s thick, Mark. It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes Trump&#8217;s crass vulgarity and his lack of discretion and restraint have helped a lot.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
*more</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Lowe is a tory of the soul, and he&#8217;s on a journey. Perhaps he will do it.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
This stream is the funniest :joy:</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
kek</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re not National Socialists, but they don&#8217;t need to be.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
We crank anti-semites are vindicated. Years of naming them, against the protests of pearl-clutching rightoids is bearing fruit. Enjoy the compliment.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
the donmeh Turks were jews</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
i get it, shes right now though</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
kek</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s like a British person working for an Indian as a servant.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
Yeah but working for people who genocided you shows a lack of self respect.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
everyone comes from somewhere buddy</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Come on Mark an Armenian woman working for Turks? I like people with self respect.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
She wants to be careful though. Sometimes, she&#8217;s seconds from throwing Romans.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
hahaha</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
NO HE IS GREEN!!!</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
She is Armenian</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
MAGA or MIGA</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tucker is a very naughty goy. He might end up having some sort of accident.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tucker was recently denounced by Trum and kicked out of the &#8220;MAGA&#8221; movement.</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Iranians have developed small submarines that are essentially underwater &#8220;drones&#8221; with which they can target American ships. It&#8217;s not just missiles that are a threat to Americans.</p>
<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago<br />
Had a boomer tell me yesterday: &#8220;thank g-d trump bombed Iran. My grandbabbies are safe&#8221; hhhhWuuuuut???</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
My beloved Ana. Watching her journey has been terrific.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
+his jewish mentor</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yep</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lots of Russian cargo planes delivered something to Iran</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
We don&#8217;t know because help would certainly not go through official channels. Who knows how much Russian aid actually is.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;You have the clock, but we have the time&#8221; &#8211; Some Ayatollah.</p>
<p>@bagelsandloxism<br />
9 days ago<br />
they have hypersonic Iran is an advanced country</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
there are no more missles. they cant be made any faster.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lawnmowers of mass destruction</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
they say 80%</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
then the party starts</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yeah they&#8217;ve used the old stock to drain the AD systems. The good stuff is yet to come, when the jews run out of American interceptors</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
I hope they wait for the interceptors to be used up first</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
death, death</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
or Mario</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Iran has no allies only jew controlled enemies.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s becoming impossible for Iranian moderates to argue against getting the nuclear bomb.</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
they suck</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol russia cant do shit</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It didn&#8217;t help Syria</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Sanctions &#8211; and historic Russian reluctance to sell them jets</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
because that costs a ton of money</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m sure that fatwa still stands now that he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Iran has this hyper-fixation on self-sufficiency. It&#8217;s noble, but it&#8217;s not always the best way.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
China will look at this shitshow and conclude that they&#8217;ll defeat the Americans if they attempt to stop unification with Taiwan.</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
russia and the US suck</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
endless whataboutism</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
The heat pumps are good for some things. But not homes and DHW</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Heat pumps are noisy and do not get hot enough. We have one</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Winter in Europe will get interesting</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
110%</p>
<p>@Natty</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
can you imagine making love to jigsaw</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
imagine the smell&#8230;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
I wonder what his reaction was when he first saw her knob?</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
yuck.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Nihil sub sōle novum, governments have been doing this since the dawn of time since the first peasant revolts.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
he needed to attack before the midterms</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump is in constant touch with Laura Loomer, and he thinks that she is connected to the base and he listens to her jewish lies.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Franco,</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Let&#8217;s not forget Franco. He lasted till the 70s.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
Doing that might be the point of no return.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
it depends how much murder the government is willing to commit and I think they will just start mass killing people.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Peace President <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Of course, everything was done on purpose, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they said that the girls read Mein Kampf.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They could topple the regime. The monarchy is despised.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Murdoch Murdoch episode with the Trump train lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
LOL!</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Andrew Neill looks like a clump of haemorrhoids</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
gross</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
HAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They think they can make the state collapse, which means that they refuse to believe that Iran is a real, capable country. This tendency to underestimate and insult the enemy could be their undoing. They did the same with Yemen. They couldn&#8217;t understand the resilience of the Yemenis.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
shows the power of PR and sticking to the script</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
they wanted to hit the girls school</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
yes!</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
who is that aimed at?</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
do we?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
I don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s all the same fake terrorist org working for israel</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
We&#8217;ve been assured they do &#8220;surgical strikes&#8221; for decades. Either they can, or they can&#8217;t &#8211; or they won&#8217;t. It&#8217;s clearly deliberate.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;Iran military says Strait of Hormuz remains open, but any US, Israeli ship will be targeted&#8221; lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="Israeli Politician: ‘Russia will pay the price’" width="540" height="960" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7x0GX4OlyRc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
yet you support faggots who want to blame women and hitler &#8212; like keith woods and nativist</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
isis k</p>
<p>@utopia148800</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
You guys remember when a jew was screaming at a Russia Today reporter that Russia will pay for supporting Iran than a few months later a giant ISIS terrorist attack was launched at a Russian Mall?</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
they did the legal games with the German soldiers after the war, too. Instead of POW, called them Disarmed Enemy Forces. To circumvent the Geneva conventions.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
9 days ago<br />
Terror Cimbricus</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
I don&#8217;t think America actually has allies, but I think you hinted at that</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
always, because America is controlled by jews so they essentially act as jews.</p>
<p>@teja<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump Judenknecht!</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes America does betray its &#8220;allies&#8221;.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
no people just have short memories, When Bush senior told the Shias to rebel against Saddam and America will help them than when they revolted Saddam brutally massacred them and America refused to help.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m waiting for the sequel to USS Liberty</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Right.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s obvious now why Trump kidnapped and took over Venezuala. Oil</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump, with his bad-faith fake negotiations has changed America&#8217;s international standing forever. Who on earth would do a deal with them now? He&#8217;s a diplomatic arsonist. Look what he&#8217;s done to Canada.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Epstein clique works too</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
They are using the term regime since Saddam</p>
<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
what are we talking about guys?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
And I imagine there no advisors around Trump who are willing to tell him things he doesn&#8217;t want to hear.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump hates nuance, and complexity, and he wants reality to match his simplistic hopes. He wants this to be easy, and he cannot accept that it isn&#8217;t easy at all.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
or, or, jews being stoned.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
hahah jews don&#8217;t think so. That&#8217;s why they had Sam Hyde fired.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re targeting the organs of the state: police stations, hospitals, etc.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
Every Single Time</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes, it&#8217;s amazing how they managed to conquer all those countries one by one.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They are the government. The capital is theirs, and they act as the state.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I mean what do you except? Tommy is an ex convict and a petty criminal and fraudster. And He claims he is jewish.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
he went full jew slave. Bet he is circumcised too like a good slave.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump went full retard</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Chief_Moody<br />
Hi Chief. I understand why people follow Tommy Robinson, jews are putting tens of millions of Pounds behind him and he has a large organization and social media boost. Essentially he has hundreds of liars on the payroll.</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
That is true. lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Chief_Moody<br />
Tommy&#8217;s been on a coke bender since October 7. I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s slept for three years.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Albert Einstein wrote a letter to Roosevelt imploring him to use nuclear weapons against Germany but the letter sat on Roosevelt&#8217;s desk because Roosevelt has died overnight.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Andinia Plan</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tommy Robinson and co have been very ghoulish over Iran. How people still support them, I&#8217;ll never understand.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Israelis are colonising Patagonia right now.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Japan had already offered surrender 3 times. They still nuked &#8217;em</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s real, Natty. Israeli journalists are happy to talk about it.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s real. They talk about it in Hebrew media.</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s very blatant what Israel are doing with Iran. It&#8217;s shameless at this point.</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Being desribed as America&#8217;s streetwalker is like getting pimped out by a literal whore</p>
<p>Hide replies<br />
Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
Well that actually happens once an opportunistic whore ages &#8211; she becomes a pimp.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well, there is no planning for this war. The war aims change hour to hour, and Iraq was extremely well-organised.</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
It&#8217;s always demoralizing to see conservative patriots in America viewing our country&#8217;s greatest ambition as being Israel&#8217;s bitch</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yeah they just don&#8217;t care. What will the goyim do? Nothing.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;The Dossier&#8221;. At least they had that.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Farage has been absolutely hysterical over this. &#8220;We have angered the Americans!&#8221;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
9-11 made the anti-war position more difficult back then.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Not me. The state of most young fatties, they won&#8217;t even make it to a hospice</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
Has anyone else seen Asmongolds blatant warmongering?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Once the Bush administration got away with lying about Sadam and terrorism ties and a complete fabrication of weapons of mass destruction, it was GAME OVER for government accountability.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Boomers using their final breaths to comment from their hospice beds.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Plenty of young folk think that way too sadly</p>
<p>Hide replies<br />
Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
100%. GenX is largely Boomer 2.0</p>
<p>1<br />
0<br />
Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Bahraini government is illegitimate, and delusional. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the government falls during this conflict. The Bahraini people stand with Iran, by and large.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
There was a Yemeni calling in to a Bahrain TV show and the Bahrain TV host said there is no war in Bahrain</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
Bibi WhataYahoo</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Netanyahu has such contempt for the goyim. The fact that he thinks Americans are stupid is becoming very obvious. A rational person wouldn&#8217;t buy a used car from him.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
The israelis and the the jew controlled countries hiding a damage.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
that&#8217;s what I meant ha ha</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
All true, I wish we weren&#8217;t inundated with ai slop of Tel Aviv</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews and degenerates; European America is in the past.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
it only looks that way</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
The absolute state of the USA&#8230;</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Winged Lawnmowers from Hell</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I just want to see Tel Aviv flattened.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
It is difficult to find any Iranian fight back video. It all looks one way success for the Epstein coalition</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The UAE is cracking down on videos; Bahrain has banned street gatherings; the jews are cracking down on footage of Tel Aviv. The true extent of this madness won&#8217;t be cleat until the dust &#8211; or sand &#8211; settles.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s hard to be circumspect, but it&#8217;s best to be cautious and not get one&#8217;s hopes up.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
haha you do it than.</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yuro needs a wedgie tbh</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
PURIM FEST 26</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Evening volks!</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
Excellent Germanicus</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s karma for Mark being very mean to Sam last stream!</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
Greetings fellow Social Nationalists</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
\o</p>
<p>Esau rising<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Natty <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f970.png" alt="🥰" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago<br />
thats good lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Greetings war-weary goyim.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Epstein regime</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with “Holocaust” revisionist Germar Rudolf. Items discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Promotion of a virtual “Holocaust Summit” that Rudolf is organising.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Rudolf directs viewers to his website and to holocaustsummit.com for event details and contact information.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Recent work: Multilingual rollout of Rudolf’s “Holocaust Encyclopedia” (English 2023; Spanish and French released; Arabic in progress), noting heavy editing and verification post AI machine translation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">On restrictive laws abroad, Rudolf states he won’t comply with what he considers unjust speech laws: “I don’t give a rat’s arse about any dictatorship passing laws prescribing the writing of history.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He says distribution uses diffuse international channels and has not yet encountered seizures.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Outlines the history of “Holocaust scepticism” from Arthur Butz’s 1976 book, the IHR conferences (late 1970s–1990s), and their decline after internal conflicts.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Rudolf’s biography: Attended early-2000s conferences; arrested/deported in 2005; served 44 months in Germany; later returned to the US after legal challenges.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Family concerns kept him low-profile for years; post-divorce and with older children, he agreed to spearhead a virtual event.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">COVID-era normalisation of online conferences reduced costs / risks and made the Summit feasible.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He argues recent Gaza events have opened minds to re-examining historical narratives, claiming the Holocaust is invoked to justify policy and censor debate.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He registered holocaustsummit.com and launched “Holocaust Academy” to teach what he calls “sound” Holocaust historiography.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mission framing: Oppose what he calls the weaponisation of history for war and censorship; “We are going to be independent… fearless… and not constrained by politically correct taboos.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Date: Jan 27 (International Holocaust Remembrance Day). He says the Red Army “conquered” Auschwitz in 1945—“the Red Army never liberated anyone.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Format: Livestream beginning 9:00 am. ET (2:00 pm UK), recorded for replay; viewers can watch live or later.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Platform: FTGmedia.com (to avoid de-platforming); Summit links will be kept current on holocaustsummit.com.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Structure: 45-minute talks; 15-minute Q&amp;A; chat requires a platform account; Q&amp;A uses small paid Superchats; recordings to be posted on Rumble, BitChute and Odysee.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Anticipated pushback: Cites pressure from anti-racism, anti-anti-semitism groups; worries about DDoS / backbone interference; contingency planning ongoing.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Opening talk (Rudolf):</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“80 Years of Holocaust Skepticism”—history of the movement, key claims, and resources; an on-ramp for newcomers.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speaker: James Mawdsley (UK Catholic priest, film-maker) on Treblinka; Rudolf served as a historical advisor on Mawdsley’s documentaries.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speaker: Peter Rushton (UK) on British intelligence and Himmler; “The Dog That Didn’t Bark” theme about wartime assessments.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Lunch break: Premiere of a new CODOH-related documentary (~35 minutes); break also helps absorb schedule overruns.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Personal testimonies panel: Brother Nathanael Kapner (online activist), Leo Walls (US bookstore owner), Georges-Marc Theil (France) on entry into scepticism and consequences (ostracism / prosecution).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speaker: Vincent Reynouard (France), with decades of activism and multiple current cases, on “misuse of the law” to suppress dissent.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speakers: Heinz Bartesch and attorney Andrew Allen on US OSI “Nazi-hunting” cases; allege legal overreach and evidence abuses in immigration prosecutions.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speaker: Prof. David Skrbina on early wartime/postwar mainstream voices who expressed scepticism.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Closing paper: Carlo Mattogno (Italy) on the state of research, presented by Rudolf; Rudolf adds “where we go from here,” future research gaps, and generational handoff.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Legal caution for EU presenters: Some will stick to personal experiences to avoid violations; audience asked not to corner them with risky questions.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Attendance: A few hundred email sign-ups so far; hopes for several thousand live viewers and many more on replay.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Sponsors/hosts: Holocaust Academy and CODOH highlighted; FTG Media donating platform access; many contributors working unpaid.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Donations: Sponsorship tiers available via the Holocaust Academy shop; live Q&amp;A questions are donation-based.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Replay/Archive: All talks to be archived on holocaustsummit.com and mirrored to alternative video platforms.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Merchandise: Summit mugs and T-shirts available via Armreg.co.uk (publisher’s merch page).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">UK legal context: Watching is legal; case law allows debate if not disparaging; both host and Rudolf stress a civil, scholarly tone to avoid issues.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">On humour and speech: Rudolf warns that in some countries jokes can be criminalised—“When jokes become punishable by law, you stop laughing”—and both urge avoiding “edgy” jokes or disparagement; Mark closes by praising Rudolf, plugging future shows, and urging lawful, respectful engagement.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody, and welcome to tonight’s special stream. We are live tonight on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. Please do share the links because we’ve got a very special guest here tonight that I’ll be introducing shortly. It is of course, Germar Rudolf. And before we do that, I’m going to give you a couple of updates.</p>
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<p>Now, as I said, this is a very important stream. It’s because we’re introducing a special event that Germar Rudolf is hosting called, The Holocaust Summit. And this event is something that hopefully will be very big. And this is basically a bit of an advert for the event, a bit of a discussion about how it came about, but also a discussion about who’s trying to stop it!</p>
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<p>So we’re going to go through all those things and many more tonight and at the end you’ll have a chance to ask questions.</p>
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<p>Now, if you support my work, if you like what I do, please share the stream.</p>
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<p>But also if you support my work and like what I do, you can give a donation, you can donate through Rumble, you can donate through Entropy. Anything donated throughout the show will be read out live on the show and any questions will be put directly to Germar Rudolf.</p>
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<p>So if you ask me a question or pay for a question via a Superchat, I will read it out after the initial presentation and we will answer your questions. All donations are gratefully received. And as I always say, if everyone gave a small amount, $3, $5, $10, that would make a great, great difference. Some of my streams in the past few months have been seen by upwards of 75,000 people. Imagine if everyone had just given $3, what we would be able to do with that money would be almost limitless at that point. But everyone would barely notice that money leaving their account because it’s probably the price of an energy drink, probably less than a coffee house coffee, certainly less than the price of a McDonald’s double cheeseburger these days.</p>
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<p>So if you can afford something, please do consider donating. You can also donate by crypto-currency. All the crypto links, as always, are in the description below and you can email me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. And many of you will be saying:</p>
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<p>And this is obviously all about Germar. You can get in touch with Germar via the Show Notes. The Show Notes have the link to his website about this very event. So you can find him there. You can also find him on Telegram.</p>
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<p>So thank you so much to anyone who does donate in advance. And please do consider supporting Germar’s event, because that’s what this is all about.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, Germar is the special guest here tonight, and I did a special show with him a while back. It was an excellent show, and his ability to present his evidence and to tell his story is almost unrivalled! I couldn’t believe it! I asked one question and Germar sort of spoke very eloquently for about 58 minutes, at which point we went to Questions and Answers. It was sort of the least work I had to do ever in a show! I didn’t need to interrupt. I didn’t need to ask him any additional questions. He just has this skill of being able to tell his story in a timely way and weave it all together almost perfectly in the allotted space that we had on the show. And after doing that show with him, I was sort of really happy with the way it turned out. I was really happy with the reception, Germar got from my audience, and I really did want to have him back on.</p>
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<p>So when he contacted me and told me he was doing this conference, this Summit, I was very happy to promote it. And I asked him:</p>
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<p>He said:</p>
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<p>So I thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, what better way to push this event than invite him back on and spend sort of 45 minutes to an hour talking to him about this event and also just having a general catch up.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because the last show, as I said, it was so good and everyone appreciated it so much. I did want to get him back on eventually anyway, so this is a perfect time.</p>
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<p>Germar, you have been a very busy man since we last spoke. How have you been? And what sort of led up to you wanting to do this event? Because you have an excellent website, you have a number of really good books, you’ve been busy with other content creators. I know that you went on Unity News Network and you’ve had sort of a little flurry of appearances, but if you want to get people up to date with what you’ve been up to and when, what sort of inspired you to decide to put on this conference, please tell us all about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah, well, thank you.</p>
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<p>First of all, thank you for having me on the show again. A short remark. If people want to get in touch with me personally, learn more about me, how they can support me if they are so inclined, the easy way is just go to my personal website, which is Germarrudolf.com. So you see my name there on the screen. Just put this together without a blank and a dot com at the end, and you’re on my personal website and you can browse it there.</p>
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<p>Now, as to what I’ve been up to over the past year, the main work that I’ve been focusing on was getting the Holocaust Encyclopedia, the English edition of which had appeared in late 2023, out in several other languages. The Spanish and French are out. The Spanish came out in I think it was maybe of last year. And the French we got out, I think it was in November. So we are up now to four languages. English, German, which was done by a different company. It was not in my ballpark. But the French and the Spanish edition, and that’s a lot of work. I mean, writing an encyclopedia is one thing, then AI helps you translate. But at the end you have to walk through it. My Spanish and French is good enough. I could do most of the proofing and editing myself. And then came the big one that we’re preparing right now! It’s an Arabic edition.</p>
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<p>So that’s like proofing a pot full of spaghetti, because that’s how that language looks like to me. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> No clue about it! But I have professionals working on it.</p>
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<p>And so this is making good progress and hopefully within a few months that will hit the mark and we’ll see how that’s going to be received. What kind of ripples that we’ll have, if any. So that’s on that side.</p>
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<p>Now coming to the actual event for which we have come together today. Holocaust sceptics have been organising conferences since the late 1970s. And the early, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, I just ask a quick question before you go into this?</p>
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<p>You mentioned that the books are available in French and Spanish, but aren’t the Holocaust sort of revisionism laws or laws and against revisionist literature in France?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> So what?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I was just asking about sort of the legality of the sales. Really, I was just, &#8230; What you might have to overcome in that case.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes, if I have the intention to abide by unjust and illegitimate laws that violate United Nations Charter of Human Rights, I wouldn’t have gotten into the topic to begin with. So I don’t give a rat’s arse about any dictatorship passing laws, prescribing the writing of history at government gunpoints. This is something that doesn’t go down well with me.</p>
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<p>Now, when it comes to printing and publishing the book, that’s an international network and I’m not going to expose here or reveal here what kind of logistics we use. But it basically gets lost in the massive mail stream that goes into and out of every country every day. So we haven’t had any interference, be it getting literature, English literature, or French, also to Canada, to France, to, &#8230; You name the countries. If we had them by the bag or by the truck load going into the country that would be selectively subject to border controls, that would be a problem.</p>
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<p>But it’s just going individual for every customer into the mail stream. And this just gets lost in the shuffle. So we haven’t encountered any problems yet. So knocking on wood. Fingers crossed. I hope I’m not going to jinx it now.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, I was just interested about the logistics of these things because there are draconian laws and I think what you’re doing is obviously very brave. And that answer of you’re not going to allow unjust laws to stop you. I think you’re a very courageous man. So sorry for the interjection. Please, please continue.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> That’s quite all right. So back in 1976, the first really scholarly book of Holocaust scepticism was published. That was Arthur Butz’s hoax of the 20th century. The first edition of which actually was published by Historical Review Press, kind of a small outlet that was established on occasion of that book appearing down in Brighton by Tony Hancock in the UK, even though the author, of course, is in the United States. That was the launching pad of people getting interested into Holocaust scepticism seriously, but also realizing that this is a serious School of thought that has to be reckoned with. And it led to the formation of the Institute for Historical Review in California. And they did have first conference was in 78 or 79 <span style="color: #008000;">[1979]</span>, I can’t remember, I think it was in 79.*</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/World’s-First-Anti-Holocaust-Convention-1979-COVER-Ver-2.gif"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-19385" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/World’s-First-Anti-Holocaust-Convention-1979-COVER-Ver-2.gif" alt="" width="499" height="795" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* See: The World’s First Anti-Holocaust Convention-Instauration Dec, 1979 </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/2016/09/27/the-worlds-first-anti-holocaust-convention-instauration-dec-1979/">https://katana17.com/2016/09/27/the-worlds-first-anti-holocaust-convention-instauration-dec-1979/</a>. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this article, written for the Dec. 1979 edition of the revisionist journal,  Instauration, an interesting account is given of the first ever, “<em>Anti-Holocaust</em>” convention,  with speakers including:  Robert Faurisson from France; John Bennett from Australia; Udo Walendy from Germany; Louis FitzGibbon from Britain; Arthur Butz and James Martin from the US. This was held in Los Angeles and organised by the Institute for Historical Review  —  KATANA.]</span></span></p>
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<p>And they had had subsequently, over the next two decades, conferences almost on a yearly basis, with a few exceptions. And unfortunately they had some internal strife in the mid-1990s, a kind of a schism there that led to internal fighting, unfortunately. That’s something that occurs on occasion. And that led to the whole School of thought and the Institute losing steam. And eventually those conferences petered out in the early 2000s.</p>
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<p>And there hasn’t been any for the better part of 20 years now. And now I myself participated, since the first conference I attended was in 2000, I think so participated in the last few that happened, until I got arrested and deported back in 2005 and had a hiatus of six years in Germany, well, 44 months of them, full board at government expense. And after I came back to the United States a little bit shell shocked, got my feet wet slowly and eventually got back into the race.</p>
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<p>But my family situation, I was married to a US citizen and we had a baby. And of course I was deported right out of this family. And she had to raise her daughter the first six years almost by herself. And so she was more traumatized by that event of government persecution. It was eventually decided that they deported me in violation of US law, and I had to litigate but eventually succeeded and came back. And now here I am in the United States, relatively safe from European style thought crime prosecution.</p>
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<p>But my wife wasn’t happy in me continuing this kind of work, fearing that it would have another negative impact down the road for the family, not just for me.</p>
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<p>So we had an agreement that I could continue my work privately but keep my head down and limit or try to not even at all have any public exposure. That also means I couldn’t do any conferences. I was approached during those years starting 2014, 15, something, that a conference should be held again and I would have been the person to go to with my connections, with my involvement in the various organisations and with my track record of productivity. But I waved it off. I couldn’t have pulled it off logistically back then.</p>
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<p>A physical conference requires a lot of work of getting the venue, organising food and accommodation for all the people that want to attend and of course for the presenters themselves. And the costs, the overhead costs could be daunting! And it’s not clear that at the end you actually walk away with profit more likely not. Most of all because you always have to have a “<em>Plan B</em>”. The traditional enemies of free speech and freedom of assembly in the past have always tried to shut down events like that. And they most certainly continue doing this to this day. Not just when it comes to Holocaust scepticism, but anything that is considered Right-wing, whatever that be. Even though Holocaust scepticism is neither Right nor Left. It’s about accuracy in history. But it is something that finds interest in the Right-wing spectrum of the political spectrum more prominently than in Left-wing circles or libertarian for that matter.</p>
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<p>Be that as it may, you have to have a Plan B, a second venue, in case the first bails out under pressure of the usual suspects, you have to quickly be able to switch over. So you always have to pay kind of for both. And if your contracts are not written right, you start paying through the nose. With all these challenges, I said I can’t do it, apart from the agreement I had with my wife.</p>
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<p>Now Covid hit. With all the negative things there is one upside to Covid and that is that in the meantime everyone is used to and technically capable of attending virtual conferences.</p>
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<p>So the kind of discussion we have now with a lot of people watching, we can have 10 people discussing something and 10 million people watching. It has become so common due to Covid that this is something that can now be pulled off. The platforms are there are plenty of them and the overhead costs are reduced. People have the software, have the gadgets to participate, to watch it. And they used to it. Particularly the new generation is very comfortable that kind of technology.</p>
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<p>So last summer a friend and supporter of mine, actually a pair of sisters, approached me and said we need to do something with Gaza brewing there’s an opportunity opening with people opening their mind that who see that the Zionists and the jewish Israelis to a large degree, not all of them, are pushing and committing genocide. The United Nations Commission has officially recognised Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza with the justification that they have to pre-emptively wipe out the Gazans in order to prevent them from committing another holocaust against the jews.</p>
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<p>So the Holocaust is used as a political weapon to commit mass atrocities, to commit a genocide. That has made people realise that the agendas and the historical narrative pushed by Zionists and it’s not just jewish Zionists, I always say there are more Christian Zionists in the world than they are jewish Zionists, is recognised by people as being illegitimate, as being driven by a Holocaust narrative that is misused for these ends. And they see how the narrative about what happened on October 7th back in when was that? 2023, right? So long ago already, wasn’t quite accurate what Zionist sources told about it either. So there is the distortion and misuse of history for political purposes.</p>
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<p>And then people are willing with their open mind:</p>
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<p>To look back in history and see other cases and then the to look at the big elephant in the room when it comes to historical narratives. And that’s the Holocaust used by pressure groups, not just jewish, not just Zionist ones, to push their agendas.</p>
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<p>With that said, I couldn’t really bail out anymore. Unfortunately I had gone through a divorce in the meantime. And so my a home still agreement with my no ex-wife was no excuse anymore, that had evaporated. So my family situation also most of my children are now grown up and they’re out of the home. There’s only one left who needs a little bit more of tender loving care still.</p>
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<p>So that argument is gone. The logistical nightmare of doing physical conferences doesn’t exist when you do a virtual one. And I had agreed:</p>
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<p>The sisters actually suggested a name, Holocaust Summit.</p>
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<p>So I went online and looked whether the domain name is still there was. HolocaustSummit.com was available. I instantly reserved it and we started contacting people who would be willing to present it. Now the website is up. If we can share that screen with the audience. I’d like to go through a number of things we’ve put up there.</p>
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<p>So as I mentioned, anyone can go there. Holocaust Summit.com, and it is organised and sponsored by a number of organisations. I’ve actually created a Holocaust Academy roughly a year ago, which I plan on and in the process of developing as a platform to teach sound Holocaust historiography to whoever wants to listen to give an accurate and holistic picture of the evidentiary situation when it comes to this event.</p>
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<p>One of the first things that we’re now doing as the academy, major things we have already given private lessons, but the website itself is currently under development. So having a curriculum of a college style is somewhat daunting. But I’m working together with a retired Professor of humanities to get this going. And sometime later this year we will have that flying. But it will come now into the open as the organisation that will officially host the Holocaust Summit. So we are going to be independent, we’re going to be fearless, because unfortunately in this area you have to be! And we are not going to be censored if we can help it. And we’re not going to be constrained by politically correct taboos of thinking and asking questions and looking for answers.</p>
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<p>So we’ll be tackling the most harmful ideology, undermining peace, truth and freedom world-wide. Because the Holocaust is used to trigger wars and genocides. That is used to enact censorship laws that suppress the search, the sharing of truth, and thus is used as a starting point for government to increase censorship measures. It’s easy to get a quote, unquote, “<em>anti-Holocaust denial</em>” law through Parliament.</p>
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<p>And once the first fortress of freedom has fallen, then censorship like a cancer grows. And we see that in every country in the UK. You know it for yourself, what’s going on in your country. It used to be a stronghold of freedom of speech until they passed the new., &#8230; What was in 2002, I think the Public Communications Act. And now it’s completely escalating with the constraints they put on it.</p>
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<p>So we need to be aware that the Holocaust is at the centre of the orthodox Holocaust narrative and its abuse, its misuse for political purposes, is at the centre of the problem of deteriorating freedom world-wide, or at least in the Western hemisphere.</p>
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<p>Now we have picked the 27th of January, which, what is today, the 20th? I’m getting flustered here. Third. It’s already the 23rd, so it’s just in four days and next Tuesday should be. We picked that day for a reason. 27th of January 1945 was the day when the Red Army conquered the Auschwitz camp. And I choose that word wisely because the Red Army never “<em>liberated</em>” anyone. So they conquered the camp. And in 2005, if I’m not mistaken, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution declaring that particular day 27 January, International Holocaust Remembrance Day.</p>
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<p>So the iconic camp of Auschwitz, which is the most known alleged crime scene of what is labelled the Holocaust, Auschwitz is also the reason why we have this day as the international day of commemorating this event. And we want to use that too. Commemorating the truth and the lies, the exaggerations and distortions and the victims of this Holocaust narrative. The Gazans are the most recent, most extreme victims of this narrative. But we will have people present their experience of persecution and prosecution. Victims, martyrs, dissidents thrown into prison or having their livelihood destroyed.</p>
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<p>So there’s a lot to commemorate and remember for us as well, and we will do that as well.</p>
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<p>So the event itself will start 9:00 AM Eastern US time, which if I’m not mistaken is 2 clock in the afternoon for the UK and 3 PM for the rest of the most of the, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think 7 PM in the UK. 2 PM Eastern is 7 PM in the UK.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah, but we started 9 AM so it should be 2 PM</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. We actually may start the stream a little earlier to test things and make things sure that things are running smoothly and make few accommodations and have a few organisational remarks before actually the day picks up with the presentations that we have.</p>
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<p>Now if you click on the second link there, that CCR list and timeline of presenters that gets everyone down to the actual table where we have the presenters.</p>
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<p>So this is our day. How we plan on having it unfold. We have the day started out with a contribution that I’m giving. Originally we had hoped actually for Nicholas Kollerstrom to take that spot. He initially had submitted a paper but then he had to retract it because it came under pressure, has been under pressure for a long time. So he wanted to talk about the English eclipse of communications.</p>
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<p>But anyway, it’s not going to happen. There’s already one casualty of censorship and suppression, which is mounting and increasing in the UK. So I’ve taken that spot. And I take the opportunity because that event, short side note here, that event of course is streamed live. We will have the links on that website where people can reach it. Actually at the top there is already one and we’ll keep that updated.</p>
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<p>But it’s a Tuesday. Not everyone will be able to sit and watch an event like this all day, on a normal workday. We will of course record it will be posted and people will be able to watch it whenever they please. And we will have it not only on our holocaustsummit.com website, but the company that actually hosts it, as at least the plan, is FTG media.com, and they are an independent platform.</p>
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<p>So when it comes to them, we will not be de-platformed because it’s owned actually by one of the board members of one of our main sponsors, which is the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust. And he’s on the board there and he has suggested we use that platform so that we can’t be de-platformed.</p>
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<p>I will be talking about 80 years of Holocaust scepticism, whence we came and where we are. So I give a historical overview since we assume that a lot of people over time, as years go by and these contributions will be accessible, a lot of people will not know much about our School of thought, its history and its views, that an introduction is due. We haven’t had anything like this happen in 20 years.</p>
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<p>So there’s an entire generation that has grown up which needs to be or should be given an introduction of what we are handling and what we’re dealing with here. So I will be talking about the main events and the main achievements of Holocaust scepticism over the past, well, since the end of the war, basically 1946 or 47 when it kind of started. And in the second half I will give a quick rundown giving the most striking, the most convincing arguments why everyone should be sceptical about the mainstream Holocaust narrative, and give resources in that context where people can learn more.</p>
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<p>So with that, the event kicks off. Every contribution, full contribution will have 45 minutes. I hope everyone stays in that slot, but you know how it goes. There will be a time overrun, possibly. Followed by 15 minutes of question answers. There will be a chat feature, FTG media.com like any other, like Rumble, like YouTube has a chat feature. In order to chat you have to have registered with the platform that doesn’t cost anything. You just submit your email address and get a free account and then you can chat. Now for the question and answer series session at the end, the last quarter hour, people are requested to make a donation in order to submit a question like the Superchat and various other platforms. And in order to do that you have to have a wallet with FTG media and the wallet is just automatically set up. When you get an account, you just have to fill it with some funds, whatever resources you take it from, plastic money or crypto or whatever.</p>
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<p>So that is the plan. My contribution is followed by a compatriot of yours, James Mosley, who is a Catholic priest from the UK. He has done a number of documentaries on the Holocaust over the past several years. Really good documentaries. And when he was working on his first one, he approached me and asked me a number of questions. So I became his historical advisor, if you wish. Each time he was working on one, he submitted what he was doing and I would make suggestion how to improve it.</p>
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<p>And he will be presenting what he found about the evidentiary situation in one particular camp that he had investigated and done a documentary on. And that’s Treblinka. Now if you click on James Mawdsley’s name up there in the list that actually will get you to, for every one of the presenters will get you to where there’s a short bio, you can see a portrait and a summary of the presentation. If you scroll a little up or down, you can go back to the list, back to the timetable.</p>
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<p>So this is James Mawdsley. We have actually grouped the European presenters first. UK comes first. James Mawdsley. Next one is Peter Rushton, also from the UK and he will be talking about also history between dogma and taboo. He talks about the British intelligence communications and interaction with the German intelligence toward the end of the war. Looking for evidence that the Brits were really thinking that the German intelligence community, which was under the rule of Heinrich Himmler, the supposed main architect of the Holocaust, that the British were actually acting and communicating as if they believed that Himmler was really murdering or had already murdered at that point of time six million jews is a very interesting contribution. I’m looking forward to myself the that the title of it, the Dog that Didn’t Bark is already an indication of which direction that will go.</p>
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<p>We’re having a lunch break after that. It is scheduled to be 2 hours long now I expect some time overruns and maybe stretching into the hour between 12 and 1. But we will have enough time during that break and I have yet to announce it because we just finished up preparing for this. The lunch break will have will see the premiering of a new documentary we have just finished. And this is about an appearance of representatives of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust in the public arena. And we had a little bit of an impact there and we want to share that with the community. That’s I think a 35 minutes so it will fit in there either way.</p>
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<p>So in the afternoon the first session is actually shared by three individuals who will be talking about their personal experience getting into Holocaust scepticism, how that happened and then also to what degree they were exposed to persecution, prosecution, ostracism and that kind of stuff. Nathaniel Kapner has been a very active person on social media, on YouTube, and now on other alternative platforms going after self-chosen people and their capers and also critiquing the misuse of history for political purposes.</p>
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<p>Leo Walls is a bookstore owner in the US who tells his story of how that went when he started offering books that most don’t like.</p>
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<p>And Georges-Marc Theil is actually a French fellow who has had decades of experiences of exposure to persecution in France.</p>
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<p>Which leads us then to the next contribution that’s a bigger one. Seasoned revisionist Vincent Reynouard from France has under his belt now already 30 years of activism and I would say historical scepticism in general on the World War II issue, not just the Holocaust. And he has been the main focus as of last two, three years of the French judiciary to lock him away for good. He currently has to deal with seven court cases at once. He will be speaking during his presentation primarily about his experience of the abuse, &#8230; No. Not the abuse, the misuse of the law and the judiciary to suppress dissidents, peaceful dissidents on historical issues.</p>
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<p>And after that we go into abuse of power and politics based on history. Heinz Bartesch and Andrew Allen will report about their experience with the Office of Special Investigations, that’s the jewish branch of the FBI that was focusing on what they call informally, “<em>Nazi Hunting</em>”. Hunting down immigrants who had some association during the war with what the Axis powers were doing and the OSI was trying to deprive them of their immigration status or even citizenship and deport them to Europe to have them put on show trials there. The biggest case known is probably the case of Ivan Demjanjuk, John Demjanjuk from the 1980s. Bartesch and Allen will actually discuss a different case, that concerns Heinz Bartesch’s father, late father, who the OSI wanted to deport. And they got a bloody nose because they didn’t reckon with the stiff resistance and skilled defense that Andrew Allen, a lawyer from the San Francisco Bay area, was putting up. They were presenting some insight into how the FBI’s branch, back in the days, it has been disbanded by now, was violating the law, breaking the law left and right and forging evidence and so forth in order to frame immigrants, just to have a heyday for themselves or to push Holocaust propaganda.</p>
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<p>After that we have retired Professor Dr. David Scrbina, who used to lecture in the humanities and philosophy at Michigan State University, if I’m not mistaken. He will be talking about early mainstream voices of Holocaust scepticism already during the war and right not too long after the war, which shows that back in the days, even mainstream people were sceptical about the narrative being pushed at war’s end.</p>
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<p>And we wrap up the day making full circle what I started beginning the day, showing where we came from and where we are. Carlo Mattogno, probably the most prolific revisionist scholar and writer that we have, but in my opinion, also the most knowledgeable Holocaust scholar on the planet! The mainstream included! He is. He can’t speak English or understand it well, and he is currently in a besieged situation in Italy where they passed a law in 2016, threatening anyone voicing their dissent on the Holocaust narrative with up to six years in prison. Now they haven’t done anything against him, even though he kept publishing books by the truckload. I think he’s by now more than 50 books published on that topic. But he does that in a very scholarly manner and in a very low profile. So in Italy there are a few, 10 people and maybe buy the books, but they’re kind of shelf warmers. And he wants to keep it that way. He doesn’t want to gain a larger profile. He wants to do his work underneath the radar of public attention in Italy. And therefore he has submitted his paper to me to present it. And I have increased it by my own take of: Where Do We Go from Here? One part of it is what are the White spots on the map of Holocaust historiography, which still need to be investigated, explored. But also what else needs to be done to hand the relay staff over to the next generation. And there are some quite promising prospects when it comes to new people coming on board with new ideas, with the help of new technologies, bringing it to a new level and a different level. So trying to imitate or copy what Carlo Mattogno has done with his massive work is not what’s going to happen. The direction I think will go somewhere completely different. And I will be talking about that and hopefully this is going to happen. And with this I hope we will be closing the day.</p>
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<p>Now, there’s always a possibility that things don’t run as smoothly as they are listed here. Just today we got information that a powerful group, international group, in the business of suppressing a free speech and freedom of assembly. They call themselves “<em>Opponents Against Racism and Anti-semitism</em>”. But basically what that means is they want to stifle anyone who has an opinion that certain ethnic and religious groups with power and influence, don’t want to hear!</p>
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<p>So they are working in the background. We know of that and we hope hopefully will be able to prepare for there’s no way of telling from DDoS attacks to trying to get to the backbone provider and what have you. Anything is possible these days to just. And if it takes to turn off the power plant so you don’t have electricity, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> but that’s what it takes, that’s what they’ll do! So we expect something. They have noticed with the kind of exposure that our Summit has already received beforehand that we are there, what we’re doing and that we are reaching out and having a ripple effect and they don’t like it!</p>
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<p>Now the kind of presentation that I’m giving here right now, I’ve done a number of them. If you scroll up on the screen here slowly, you can actually see listed on the right-hand side a number of presentations linked to of other platforms where I have given an introduction to this event. So if anyone is interested in listening to those, you just click on the image and go to the respective platform which is usually Rumble or Bitchute where this is posted. And because of this, I think, and you helping out now too, this event hopefully is going to be a success. It promises to be a success for us, and it threatens to become one for those who don’t want our voices to be heard.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[39:37]</span></p>
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<p>So there is going to be in the background the usual electronic warfare from the traditional enemies of free speech, to be expected, and we will see how that goes.</p>
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<p>This is by and large my narrative now we are here right on the screen where the organisation of that event is shown. We actually, when we submitted to people who were potentially able to give presentations, the invitation to do so, we said we basically accept papers on three main topics.</p>
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<p>The first is Holocaust in History, Taboo Between Dogma and Descent. It just talks about new historical findings and insights and interpretations on the event itself. The next one is Holocaust and Politics History as a Weapon. And I mentioned we have one contribution in this regard which will discuss the weaponisation of immigration law against immigrants in order to get propaganda campaigns out of it. And the last one is Holocaust and Human Rights History as a Muzzle, Holocaust Used to Push Censorship. And we have a number of presenters as mentioned who will discuss their very private experience of censorship.</p>
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<p>So it should all be civilised and decent and for no one to get overly excited about in either direction. But of course certain groups get extremely excited if they fear that voices be heard that can disrupt their main source of power and influence. And there’s a lot at stake for them and they will go to extremes if need be to shut us down. We’ll see who at the end will have the upper hand.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So are you expecting the usual sort of suspects to try and put a stop to this? Have you had anybody threaten your platform or have you had any threats in the run up to this or any attempts to stop this already?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yes, yes! We just today we got information that as I mentioned, you can have your own platform which is a computer program, but it has to run at the end of the day. It has to run on a server and has to have the connection to the backbone with the Internet cables with enough bandwidth. And usually you have some company providing services from the telecommunications company that hooks you up to what we call today the Internet, the physical Internet, to companies who do server co-location or dedicated server renting. And along that line I’m not quite sure what it was and I wouldn’t necessarily want to reveal it either. We already had approaches from certain quarters of pressure groups to shut down any link in that chain that would get our voice from where we sit to the Internet to the world. So that’s going on in the background and we have to see how that goes. Nothing has been shut down yet, but they’re trying.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And when you kick this off, what sort of attendance are you expecting?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Well, the Holocaust Summit website itself, HolocaustSummit.com if you go to the top, you actually see a link there where people can jump to the sign up form and just submit their email address so that they can stay informed if there are any sudden changes in the timeline in whatever is going to happen. Because we never know. If we go by that the last time I checked and that’s a week ago, that’s not quite accurate. We had submitted 300 emails through that. But I would expect these are only the hardcore ones who are willing to share their email. And the other, there’s not really a need if you just keep to the website. Go to the website and look up what the link is to the actual event and we will have it posted on other websites as well. You don’t have to identify yourself. So I would assume that the vast majority will not identify themselves even with an anonymous email.</p>
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<p>So we need to see how it goes. I don’t know. Sign up has really accelerated with my frequent experience appearances on shows like yours over the past two weeks. And I would assume by now we have probably harvested several hundred more. But there’s no way of telling, as I mentioned, how many people who, how many of those who will attend will actually have submitted their email address. I would assume it’s a minority.</p>
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<p>So hopefully we are going to have several thousand which will most certainly exceed, far exceed the range we could have had in the past with physical conferences, which were limited to a few hundred.</p>
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<p>And of course then we have it not just streamed, but we have it posted. So on the usual platforms that will reach many, many more thousands, ten thousands in days, weeks, a month and years to come.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And bearing in mind you said you are going to be doing donations and questions and answers on the day, sort of how do you expect or is there a way that people can sort of sponsor you in advance?</p>
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<p>So obviously these events, they take a lot of time and effort to put together. I know it’s not a physical event and I know you’re not paying people to be there, but sort of, is there a way that people can actually sponsor the event and make donations in advance to help you guys with your infrastructure and to make sure the event goes smoothly?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Absolutely! The HolocaustSummit.com website itself, if you were to go there and you go to the very end of the very bottom of the page, it shows the logos of the two companies who are the main sponsors and have officially declared themselves to be sponsors. You know, most actually want to stay anonymous. But there’s also a link that simply says, “<em>Become an AMREC Holocaust Summit sponsor today</em>”, which gets you to the shop of our Holocaust Academy where you can buy sponsorship packages and that actually has several tiers of whatever you want to invest in it. This would be the way to go. So holocaustsummit.com at the very bottom of the page, that’s where you could chip in to cover any costs. Most of us are actually working for free right now and there’s no payment. And FTG Media.com is a sponsor itself and their way of sponsoring is by giving us access to the platform free of charge. We don’t know what happens if, excuse my French, shit hit the fan with all kinds of attempts to shut us down and then we have to come to some more expensive ad hoc solutions to circumvent these things. There’s no way of telling right now!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And one final question. So with it being on a Tuesday, it’s going to be difficult for some people to attend. Obviously it looks like it’s going to be a fascinating day and your lineup is an extremely strong lineup. And it’s rare to have a conference that is that well packed with guests, to start at 9 AM and go all the way through to 6 PM. It’s a big event. So where will this be posted for Replay? Is this going to be up on Odysee? What sort of places will it be available on replay?</p>
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<p>And as a final sort of additional question, usually with conferences there are some kind of sort of, I don’t know, maybe a brochure, or some kind of physical keepsakes available. Is there any merchandise that people can purchase as well to support the event? So sort of two questions. There will there be sort of a full re-upload of everything? And is the like to commemorate this, any kind of physical merchandise that supporters could also purchase?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. So to the first question, once the event is over, it’s getting archived on our own website. HolocaustSummit.com will be moved to a folder 2026, and we will have there with posters and a short description, all the contributions listed. You click on it and you will probably have several options. They will be on Rumble and Bitshute and Odysee, and you can pick which platform you want to watch it on. We are probably not going to strain our own server because those platforms are good enough.</p>
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<p>So this will all be available and the link to that archive will then be of course on the front page, on the home page, prominently displayed. When it comes to merchandise, we just started developing that and if I am not mistaken, &#8230; Let me have a quick look where we are with this.</p>
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<p>The only company right now that actually has a merch contract is Armreg and we are developing, &#8230; Now if you were to go to armreg.co.uk as you know, the publishing branch of what we are doing is actually located in the UK. It is located in London. So if you go to armreg.co.uk and share that with the audience or do you want me to share it? Which way is faster?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’m just doing that myself now.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> So Armreg.co.uk.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Just bringing that up. There’ll be two seconds. Just give me a couple of seconds just to get that set up. There we go.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Okay, now at the top menu you see merch as the third entry. Yeah, click on that’s for merchandise and once that has loaded.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Oh, it has loaded. Sorry, it’s just now I have to share that window as well. Well, just give me a second because it’s a pop out window. So two seconds. It’s weird how that works. Give me a second. Share screen. That’s the one.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah, that’s the one, yeah.</p>
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<p>So if you scroll down a little, we have our various merchandise there’s one for Armreg itself and general stuff and there you see some merchandise. We have a mug and a Tshirt right now that has the announcement of that particular event.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Wonderful.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> So that’s how to go about it.</p>
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<p>Now I have still to put that link more prominently on the Holocaust Summit website so people can get there directly. That’s a good point for you to make that and I will make that happen once we’re off here, and I will add that to the site so people can get to the merchandise easily.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much! We do have some Superchats so I’m just going to bring them up two seconds. We actually have a couple that hung over from the other night, so I’ll deal with them quickly. Covenant Soldier gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Love the show with Rob Rondo. Hail the active clubs.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Flying Dutchman gave $50.</p>
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<p>Thank you very much. And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Catching up. Happy New Year!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you my friend. I’ve actually sent you a message today so you can pick that up on Telegram. Thank you very much. Nationless Nationalist gave $3. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hope and encouragement to those suffering in silence.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10, thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Qu huge respect to Mr. Rudolf.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! And Aunt Sally gave $5 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mark, how likely am I to get my door kicked in for watching this conference?”</span></h3>
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<p>In the UK you see, one thing I’ll say is like in the UK, if I’m correct, And I’m just getting this sort of as correct as I can. In the UK it isn’t illegal to actually deny the Holocaust or to engage in revisionism, as far as I know.</p>
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<p>However, if you were to do so in a way that was seen as insulting or demeaning to people, it would be. So if you were making jokes or if you were saying things which were couched in the way that was meant to be insulting, that may be illegal.</p>
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<p>However, if you were doing sort of academic work such as what you do, that would be seen in a different light.</p>
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<p>So I think in the UK this would be legal, but it would be very hard for anyone to get into trouble for simply watching this at home. Would you agree with that?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Absolutely! We have, with all the censorship laws we have not a single case where a country has stooped down to the point where they persecute people for just attending, listening and consuming. Even the countries with the harshest policies when it comes to this. That’s Austria and Germany. You can, for instance, you can buy Holocaust sceptical literature that is not illegal if you buy only one copy for your own use. If the government happens to intercept it, they can still destroy it, but they can’t prosecute you for it. The same with attending a conference like this. It is not an offence in any country of the Western world. And when it comes to the UK, case law says you can contest the mainstream Holocaust narrative until you’re blue in the face. What you cannot do is in that context, disparage victims, survivors, martyrs, whatever. So in any way talking ironically, sarcastically, humourously, or in any way that is considered offending toward the survivors, the victims and so forth.</p>
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<p>Now the company, as I just mentioned, Armreg.co.uk that has published and republished all this material and before that we were actually in the UK since 1996. I was personally, I lived in the UK until 1999. And I started the whole operation there. And it was called Castle Hill Publishers has gone belly up in late 2023, and then we switched over to Amreg. So just a reorganisation basically. Almost at all times been in the UK except for a stretch of one and a half, two years, and we have never been harassed by anyone. So keeping it scholarly, keeping it matter of factly and civilised, as you should, any discourse anyhow, keeps you safe in the UK for now.</p>
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<p>Anyone attending, when you are in the chat and you make comments in there that can be considered disparaging to jews in general or survivors or descendants and victims of the National Socialist persecution of the jews. And you do that with an account that for some reason, because you set it up that way, allows the authorities to identify you, which would probably not be smart.</p>
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<p>If you want to go on FTG media or somewhere else, use an ID that doesn’t allow anyone to identify you. And if an email is required, if you want safety, use a burner email or someone, some email that is not officially traceable to you directly.</p>
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<p>However, if you abstain from making those kind of comments, which I advise under any circumstances, because nasty language doesn’t reflect good on the community and I’m no fan of it. So if you abstain from these kind of comments, you should be good under any circumstances on any place on this planet.</p>
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<p>It’s different for our presenters. Some of them come from Europe and as I’ve mentioned, when we’re talking about those coming from France, they’re talking about their persecution. They’re not going to make statements on history themselves because we don’t want to get them in trouble. And if we have the question and answer session, I would like the audience also to abstain from questions that corners those French individuals and putting them on the spot, because they need to fly home and don’t want to be arrested. Not fly home, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> because they are at home! They don’t want to get arrested the next morning or whenever.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, and I want to echo that. I mean, look, I believe it’s very important to talk about the kind of things that we’re talking about tonight. I think it’s important that we discuss things like this.</p>
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<p>But I also think it’s very important to ensure that we do so in a productive and polite manner. Talking about this kind of stuff in a way that is disparaging or rude or ridiculous, it not only opens you up for arrest, which is a ridiculous position to put yourself in, but it also demeans the seriousness of the topic and it takes what we do out of an academic light.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not a revisionist. I talk about revisionism. I have revisionist guests on, but I’m generally speaking somebody who talks about demography and jewish or Zionist power and the way that jewish power affects the Western world. They’re the topics that I mainly specialise in. I do speak to revisionists. I’m interested in it. But obviously, if you are going to get involved in this, my suggestion is that you deal with it in an academic way for your own safety.</p>
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<p>And also so the topic is held in the high regard that it deserves to be held in. If you’re there sort of cracking jokes and sharing memes and trying to be as edgy as possible, kind of undermines what people like Germar are doing. And there’s an awful lot of revisionists who have suffered greatly at the hands of the authorities over the years. And you don’t want to demean their suffering and their sacrifices.</p>
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<p>We’ve got a five dollar Superchat from Mr. Smalls 14, who, regardless of what I just said, said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Germar, is it true you tried to sell soap in Sacramento with Pastor Eli?”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s obviously one of those jokes. You don’t have to answer that if you don’t wish. No.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Yeah. The UK’s attitude towards Germany is that Germans have no humour. And you need to understand that the chicken has come to roost. The UK, as a winner of the Second World War, has pushed Germany in a situation where Germans can go to prison for jokes. The shortest German joke, do you know what that is?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, I don’t.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> The German word for joke is “<em>witz</em>”. Okay. The shortest German joke is “<em>Ausch-witz</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[uncertain laughter from Mark]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> That gets you in prison in Germany.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Indeed, indeed.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> So Germans don’t have humour because they have to watch their back. And they had to watch their backs for centuries. The Nazis didn’t invent book burning and the current government didn’t invent censorship laws. Germany has been under the stranglehold in the medievals of the Holy Inquisition, the worst of all European countries. So it has been bred into the German and out of the Germans to make certain jokes. Jokes live from the tension of putting things together that are not quite acceptable, talking seriously about them. So you package them. And that is exactly the attempt that this fellow has been doing, pushing the envelope into the not quite acceptable. But making this joke.</p>
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<p>And that has become a crime in Germany and in borderline areas, has always been. And now in the UK, people are getting in trouble for showing sarcasm, irony and so forth in that context. If and when jokes become punishable by law, you stop laughing! And I take that opportunity to make that clear. These kind of jokes. Make them when you’re sitting in the bar, but don’t make them publicly.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, I want to sort of echo this is a serious point. So I actually believe that when it comes to comedy, when it comes to humour, when it comes to making a joke, really nothing should be off limits.</p>
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<p>And once you start making certain things off limits, it’s very easy to make anything and everything off limits. So then you get sort of the Edinburgh Fringe voting the joke of the year as “<em>Why did the chicken cross the road?</em>” Because no one’s allowed to actually joke about anything else.</p>
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<p>And I think it was Jimmy Carr who made the remark, a famous British comedian, who made the remark that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s probably already made the joke that will get him one day cancelled and ruin his career.”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s how it is, because we constantly see the mainstream media, liberals, sort of fans of censorship, spending hours, if not days, if not in some cases weeks, trawling through people’s back catalogue of streams, tweets, Facebook posts, searching for something that they can find offensive in order to cancel someone, or worse still, get them arrested. And I find this very interesting because I’ve wrestled with this myself. People might say:</p>
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<p>And my question would be, if you came to the shows of Britain’s leading ethno-nationalists, and you were looking to find something offensive, is that really my fault? You know, I’m not out there saying it in the street. I’m not shouting it through a megaphone into people’s faces. I’m hosting a show. People come to the show, they know what they’re gonna get when they come to the show. This isn’t something that’s being broadcast to every car and home and workplace in the UK. You come here and you seek this out, knowing that you’re going to get a discussion about things relating to our cause.</p>
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<p>And I think the people going out of their way to dig things up on people and to, it’s like Germar’s conference. If you were to go there and to record everything that was said and watch it in detail, taking notes, looking to find something offensive, that kind of defeats the object of watching the conference in the first place or attending the conference in the first place, because you’re not going there in good faith and then finding it offensive by accident. You’re going there on purpose to look for a reason to be offended so that you can then report it.</p>
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<p>And this is one of the widespread problems in the West that people, the people who claim they don’t want to be offended will go out of their way and go to great lengths in order to be offended, or so they can claim that they were offended in order to report people to the authorities, which is just essentially a charter for censorship, allowing this to happen. But I do always ask people to be respectful, to exercise caution, not to use racial stuff.</p>
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<p>As I said to all my guests, you know, please abide by sensible rules so that we are always the polite academic group that talk about things in a sensible manner.</p>
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<p>And one thing that impresses me with Germar both times I’ve had him on is the way he can speak so fluently and in such a way that I think it would be impossible for anyone to find him offensive unless they were going out of their way to do. Optics prime gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This man is a national treasure. Thank you for your work, good sir.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you for that Superchat. Lars Aerback with AE, gave $15.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“A positive story from Denmark today. Our Supreme Court acquitted a man for hosting a site with racist jokes. Old fashioned holocaust jokes amongst them. The case has been through all three courts and has been going for over six years. This is a win for freedom of speech!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, that is certainly good news from Denmark, and I hope to see more.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Denmark? Regarding Denmark?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Oh that’s good! Yeah. Denmark has been a stronghold in all those years. Some German holocaust sceptics and historical sceptics actually fled to Denmark and found refuge there over the past four, five, six decades.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I’d like to say as well, big thank you to Malibu and Coke for gifting 10 subs to the channel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as I always say, those who accepted the gifted subs. It would mean a great deal to me if you kept them up. You know, $5 a month means very little to most people, but if I had four or five hundred people every month subbing my channel, it would take a lot of weight off my mind at the beginning of every month.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the end of the Superchat so I’m going to bring the stream to a close now. You’ve been a wonderful guest as ever! The advert for the conference has been excellent and again you’ve done most of the heavy lifting tonight and most of the speaking, but is there anything you’d like to say as a final thought before we wrap things up?</p>
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<p><strong>Germar Rudolf:</strong> Not much more than holocaustsummit.com! So the ultimate link will be streaming and that can change any minute depending on what happens, will be posted there there. If you submit your email, you’ll get it also in an email. And I hope we all see you there! And we are going to build a new community that gets stronger by the day!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much!</p>
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<p>I’d like to thank Germar for being here. He’s a courageous guy. He’s a very good speaker. We have interviewed him in full before. If you want to watch that interview, it is in my previous videos. Go and watch it. It’s well worth watching. It’s a two hour special, that one where we talk about Germar’s personal journey, what he’s been through, the incredible repression he’s faced and his incredible journey in his life. Please do that and also support his event, support his work. He’s a really nice guy. It was really kind of him to come on here tonight and he’s been, as always, the perfect guest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’d like to remind you all that I will be back on Sunday with the ladies from Return to the Land. That’s three housewives, mothers and home-schoolers from Return to the Land talking about women in nationalism and their roles as mothers and homemakers and educators. So that’ll be an interesting stream. Please join me then 7 PM UK time on Sunday for that. Until then, if you’re out doing activism at the weekend, please be safe, stay within the law and know your rights. And until Sunday, have a great evening, have a great weekend and I’ll see you all again soon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you to Germar, thank you to everyone who donated so generously. And as always, thank you to this wonderful community for supporting us, for supporting these shows and for supporting the good work of my guests. Thank you everyone. I love you all. Have a great weekend. Good night.</p>
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<p>Mark Collett<br />
1 day ago<br />
Pinned by @MarkCollett<br />
If you would like to contribute to the stream, please use Entropy:<br />
https://entropystream.live/app/markcollett</p>
<p>3<br />
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Valkyria81<br />
1 day ago<br />
88</p>
<p>8<br />
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The Bee Sting<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wooden doors?</p>
<p>5<br />
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Alice1488<br />
1 day ago<br />
Watching replay. I’ve never heard this brave intelligent man speak before.</p>
<p>5<br />
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Sir Trancealot<br />
1 day ago<br />
14</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
14 Night all!</p>
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you Mark and Germar</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you Germar</p>
<p>5<br />
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
One day Mark and Laura will be presenting a day time TV show. With guests like Monika Scheafer</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
2mm glass and a wooden door, no in/out pipes.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
1 day ago(edited)<br />
This HMD is getting more unbearable with each year that passes. For starters, they start talking about it in the media a week or two before the actual day, that&#8217;s without all the other propaganda being inflicted on the public all year long. What a sick world we live in where a vile group, with the help of its puppets, think it is their God-given right to teach young minds of British children a load of old BS.<br />
As Arnold Leese said..<br />
&#8220;Fascism holds that education up to 14 is a half-measure with attendant<br />
evils nearly as great as its benefits. It produces a population which can<br />
read but which has not learned to think, and is accordingly open to every<br />
kind of evil suggestion or lie, readily disseminated in print.&#8221;<br />
Less</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
Britons will not have humour for much longer. Just look at the liberal boneheads we have for &#8220;so called&#8221; comedians.</p>
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<p>@tuer<br />
1 day ago<br />
the jews ethnically replacing their liberators in europe and america should be the eye opener gaza is</p>
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<p>@Evola19<br />
15 hours ago<br />
That is a misunderstanding of history &#8211; the jews have been at war with Europeans their entire existence. WWII was a gentile uprising put down by other gentiles &#8211; no jews were &#8220;liberated&#8221; from anything, they won WWII and were still surrounded white Europeans whom they hate. Not for much longer though.</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
God Bless Kamerades x</p>
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<p>@BritishGammon<br />
1 day ago<br />
Sophie Duker can &#8220;joke&#8221; about killing White folks on the BBC and the police took no action</p>
<p>3<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Jailed for physically explaining how high his dog could jump!</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
holes in the roof and chimney built after surrender</p>
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<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Just figure all subscriptions giving a mere 12 dollars a year. 192000 dollars in a year. Do not get frustrated and be overwelled. We can help our activists.</p>
<p>2<br />
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jm<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Problem: if you order a book when you live in EU, you have to pay a lot in douane rights -I ordered a book from Antilope Hill from Irving en had tot pay MORE in charges and taxes than the book itself&#8230;</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
One People</p>
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Echo_Harp<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks.</p>
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Valkyria81<br />
1 day ago<br />
hi from denmark</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Im looking forward to wearing my Flecktarn next week</p>
<p>2<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
“I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’”</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
God Bless Ursula x</p>
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Skyler Durden<br />
11 hours ago<br />
I have Germar&#8217;s encyclopedia. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60f.png" alt="😏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>1<br />
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Through it, not around it<br />
13 hours ago<br />
WTF is Germar promoting FTJMedia? That site is cringy basement soy larper central. It is the complete antithesis of Germar and represents everything he tries to distance himself from.</p>
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<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
1 day ago<br />
just missed it</p>
<p>1<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ForKamerade<br />
wot???</p>
<p>1<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
British gammon, Turncoat Dlive Traitor lol</p>
<p>1<br />
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Valkyria81<br />
1 day ago<br />
ive just found out. and im out&#8230; so sad im beeing missing this</p>
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Echo_Harp<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;Found 3 things of offensive stuff&#8221; sounds like a joke in its own&#8230;</p>
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Not long Enough Valk!</p>
<p>1<br />
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Valkyria81<br />
1 day ago<br />
how long do u continue this chat tonight?</p>
<p>1<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
\0</p>
<p>1<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
you can say anything as long as you can make the cops run away showing up at your house.</p>
<p>1<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@ForKamerade<br />
o/</p>
<p>1<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks Merkal, Congratulations Kalugi</p>
<p>1<br />
0<br />
yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Only in Deutschland 2026!</p>
<p>1<br />
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
1 day ago<br />
The state can easily spin revisionism into anything they want</p>
<p>1<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Will look, Thank you</p>
<p>1<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/</p>
<p>1<br />
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yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Scientific &amp; Engineering Impossibility</p>
<p>1<br />
0<br />
yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
How dare you question history, Its got Laws protecting it Because Truth needs Laws or you go straight to the Gulag Goy</p>
<p>1<br />
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good evening folks</p>
<p>1<br />
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Sir Trancealot<br />
1 day ago<br />
Evening gents</p>
<p>1<br />
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Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago</p>
<p>@SublimeBraid<br />
gassing 6 million jews and fighting a two front war at the same time?</p>
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Tomigun<br />
19 hours ago<br />
They decoded the Germans&#8217; Enigma in 1941, yet didn&#8217;t intercept ANY message about a &#8220;holocaust&#8221; or &#8220;final solution&#8221; carried out.</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
1 day ago<br />
the risks of multitasking, lol</p>
<p>yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Dragged out, &#8220;One by One&#8221; LOL</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 day ago<br />
it’s all of them.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
odysee chat ded?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
1 day ago<br />
evening all</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
1 day ago<br />
I don&#8217;t blame his wife, they&#8217;d probably take their child away somehow</p>
<p>yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
test</p>
<p>yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
LOL</p>
<p>yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
110,000 at most</p>
<p>yes dear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Guten Abend Kamerades!</p>
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<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
13 hours ago<br />
thank you comrade.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">A thorough explanation of the hate crime aspects of the Combatting Anti-Semitism, Hate and Extremism Bill 2026 and why it&#8217;s so reprehensible and dangerous to political freedom.</p>
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<p><strong>Jacob Hersant:</strong> So this is a video where I’m going to explain this new Bill that the Australian government is bringing out in the wake of the Bondi shooting where two Islamists went and shot a bunch of jewish people. And the jewish lobby has pressured the government to bring out these really extreme laws which practically nobody is happy about, really. Only the jews are really happy. Labor Party obviously draughted these laws on behalf of the jewish lobby. But everyone else seems pretty annoyed about it, so I’ll go through it. I haven’t seen any videos that comprehensively go through what the Bill says and what is so egregious and why it’s problematic. So I’ll do that in this video.</p>
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<p>First I’ll give a disclaimer that I’m not a lawyer. No lawyer has gone through and talked about all of this stuff. So unfortunately I’m the best that you have. The only reason I’m interested in it is because it’s going to be affecting me and my organisation, the National Socialist Network. So that’s why I’m making this video.</p>
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<p>I’ll be providing photos of the Exposure draught as I read it. I’ll also show the link so you can go read it yourself to make sure that I’m not misinterpreting it or I’m not making any mistakes. If I’m making a mistake, please message me, tell me how I’m wrong in my interpretation, and I’ll be happy to retract what I said and correct it for people, because I just want to try to give an honest assessment of what this law is and the effects it will have on society.</p>
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<p>So this is a massive bill, they call it an Omnibus Bill. It is going to change a lot of things.</p>
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<p>So a lot of its about to do with criminal law and hate speech. But it also does have some gun stuff. Not going to talk about the gun stuff because I don’t know much about guns. And this video is just going to be too long. I’m more interested and know more about the politics aspect of it and the hate crimes and hate speech and that aspect of it.</p>
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<p>So that’s what I’m going to be talking about. I’m sure there’s someone that can talk about the gun aspect of it and in all likelihood the two are going to be split. The gun stuff will probably be chucked into its own Bill and the hate stuff will be bundled in its own bill.</p>
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<p>I’m going to start off by talking about what this law does regarding hate and what they call “<em>violent extremism, hate speech, hate crimes</em>” and all the like. It’s all doublespeak. The bill’s called “<em>Combating Anti-semitism, Hate and Extremism Bill 2026</em>”. So in the title, they don’t even hide who it’s for. Obviously, on behalf of the jewish lobby, they’re the only ones that support this law currently. And because they have an outsized influence over Australia’s politics, that’s why this egregious Bill has even been introduced.</p>
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<p>Part One is “<em>Aggravated offences for preachers and leaders</em>”.</p>
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<p>So this just goes into the Criminal Code and it makes it so that there’s a bunch of laws where if a person is a religious official, or a spiritual leader, while they commit the offence, they can be imprisoned for longer. So it aggravates it makes the judge give them a more severe sentence. And the charges specifically are to do with encouraging violence and encouraging terrorism and all these kind of charges.</p>
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<p>So when you look at the Bill here, it doesn’t specify what the crimes are, but those crimes are basically advocacy of violence and advocacy of terrorism. If this Bill passes, if you are an imam, or a priest <span style="color: #008000;">[or rabbi?]</span> or some other spiritual leader of a religion, you can be punished more because you advocate violence. So that’s part one.</p>
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<p>And then I’ll move down to Part Six, bundled part six with part one, because it’s the same kind of thing, the same kind of change there. And it’s just for when these spiritual leaders, the charges are when you’re trying to get a young person, someone under 18, to commit violence as well. And more or less the same thing, though it is in a different section of the bill. They have changed the penalty to a person might commit an aggravated offence if the person is a religious official or other spiritual leader.</p>
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<p>So in terms of grooming children for violence or for advocating terrorism or inciting violence against a particular group, if you are some sort of spiritual leader, religious official, you can be punished more severely. This is obviously going after Muslims. This is to punish Muslims more severely if they’re caught saying stuff about Israel and Palestinian resistance against Israel. This is pretty obviously what this is directed towards.</p>
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<p>So Part Two is there’s increased penalty for using a postal or similar service to menace, harass or cause offence. And that’s been increased to five years in jail. So that’s what Joel Davis has been charged with and he’s still being remanded now. I think it’s been two months or maybe even more.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[06:09]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Part Three is “<em>Aggravated sentencing factor</em>”. And this affects the Crimes Act 1914. And it basically makes it so all criminal offences can be aggravated by being racist. So if you commit a crime because you’re racist, you can be punished more severely by the judge.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Read out the specific part:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The person’s conduct constituting the offence was motivated, whether wholly or in part, by hatred of another person, or a group of persons, and that hatred was because of the person’s belief that the target person or persons in the target group are distinguished by race or national or ethnic origin.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So theoretically, if somebody raped a woman because he hated that woman’s race or nation or ethnicity, he can be punished more severely than somebody who rapes a woman for choice and noble reasons, like lust or hatred of some other kind.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Every single crime now, if you can be proven to be a racist, you get punished more severely. That’s basically what this aggravated sentencing factor is if the crime you commit is motivated by hate, well, racism or nationalism, then you can be punished more severely. That’s what this change means.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But basically every crime can be turned into a hate crime, essentially. So if you assault or rape or murder, then it can aggravate it if it’s proven that you’re a racist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Part Four is “<em>Prohibited hate group</em>”. And a prohibited hate group is a designation that the Home Affairs Minister can give out. So the current Home Affairs Minister right now is Tony Burke, for the Labor Party. This legislation allows the government to ban particular organisations. It can ban organisations, it can unban them as well, and they can add multiple names to a ban.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you ban an organisation, you can’t just rename it because that’s going to be banned as well. They’re just going to add it as an alias. So you can’t just get around the ban by rebranding.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So to be designated a prohibited hate group, that group has to have committed a “<em>hate crime</em>”. And they define what a hate crime is so here it is. 1 14. A. So definition of a hate crime:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A hate crime is conduct that would constitute any of the following offences. Urging or threatening violence and offences against groups or members of groups to the extent that the targeted group is distinguished by race or national or ethnic origin.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So either:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Publicly displaying prohibited symbols or giving a Nazi salute.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So a hate crime can either be threatening violence or it can be publicly displaying prohibited symbols, like the swastika or giving the Nazi salute. And then here it says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A hate crime is also conduct that was engaged in at a time before a provision referred to in subsection (1) commenced and would constitute an offence against the provision had the provision been in force at that time.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What this means is that you don’t have to have committed a hate crime after this legislation passed. If you’ve given the Roman salute or you’ve displayed a swastika, as your group, then you’ve committed a hate crime and you can be listed as a hate organisation. So you can be punished retroactively. I will further explain this, but make no mistake, being listed as a hate organisation is a punishment in itself. So the process is the punishment!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you got to remember, a hate crime can be just political expression, like flying the swastika or moving your arm in a gesture in a Nazi salute. That is political expression. And if you just do that, you can be banned for being an organisation that gives the Roman salute. So you can be banned for retroactive conduct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is insane, because laws aren’t supposed to be retroactive. Non-retroactivity is a fundamental legal principle. That law should only apply to actions occurring after the law was enacted, not before, preventing new laws from punishing past behaviour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everyone just takes that for granted. But when you have the jewish lobby demanding laws, they really don’t care about what we take for granted, obviously.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>For banning an organisation, a conviction is not required. So:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A person does not need to have been convicted of a hate crime in order for the AFP minister (which is the Home affairs guy, so Tony Burke) to be satisfied, an organisation has engaged in conduct of a kind mentioned in paragraph one.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No procedural fairness required. The AFP minister (so Tony Burke) is not required to observe any requirements of procedural fairness in deciding whether or not the AFP Minister is satisfied for the purposes of this section.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically that means the people that are affected by the banning, so say the National Socialist Network was banned, we get no hearing, no say, no chance to respond, no recourse, no explanation about what’s happening. You’re just basically told:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Tough luck! Like, enjoy being banned!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So yeah, you get no hearing, you get no way to explain yourself or try to defend yourself in front of a judge or anything like that. And that’s what they’ve written right here, “<em>no procedural fairness required</em>”. Which is another legal principle that the jewish lobby don’t care about. They don’t care about what’s called natural justice or procedural fairness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Director-General of Security advice to be provided before specifying an organisation as a prohibited hate group.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Mike Burgess has to give advice to Tony Burke or the Director General of Security has to give advice to the AFP minister and he has to be satisfied that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The organisation has engaged in activities, and that the activities or the like, the continued engagement in the activities would or are likely to increase the risk of politically motivated violence or of the promotion of communal violence.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have to use your intelligence here and think about what they’re saying. Obviously the logic that people like Mark Burgess are going to say is that because you’re engaging activities like giving the Roman salute that those activities are going to make it more likely that people go do terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[14:04]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what it’s saying and that’s what’s going to be argued. So if this Bill passes, Mike Burgess is gonna go tell Tony Burke:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, yeah, giving the Roman salute makes it more likely that terrorism is going to happen in the future. They need to be banned!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If Mike Burgess thinks that giving the Roman salute, giving the Hitler salute and saying “<em>Heil Hitler</em>” and wearing black clothes makes it more likely that someone is going to go out and blow up something or kill a bunch of people, well then your organisation gets banned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what happens. So they can list an organisation. And when an organisation gets listed, then it opens up people to be charged with a number of offences that relate to that prohibited hate group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Those offences are:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Directing the activities of a prohibited hate group.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Which can get you 15 years in jail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Membership of a prohibited hate group.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you have to keep in mind that being a member of an organisation you can be an informal member of the organisation and you can be charged with this because they define member of a prohibited hate group as:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A member of an organisation includes a person who is an informal member of the organisation and a person who has taken steps to become a member of the organisation. And in the case of an organisation that is a body corporate, a director or an officer of the body corporate.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you’re in so-called informal member of an organisation, you can be charged. So:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Membership of a prohibited hate group</em>”, 7 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Recruiting for a prohibited hate group</em>”, 15 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Training involving a prohibited hate group</em>”, 15 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Getting funds to, from or for a prohibited hate group</em>”, 15 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>“<em>Providing support to a prohibited hate group</em>”, 15 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And most of these offences have a lower offence if you’re convicted for one of them while being reckless rather than, I guess knowingly doing it. So being reckless means that you’re aware of a substantial risk that you’re doing the crime, and it changes like the imprisonment from like 15 years to 10 years if you’re only proven to have recklessly done it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the only defenses that you have are either you didn’t do the crime or you were a government agent when you were doing the crime. So if you’re some sort of informant or secret agent infiltrating a hate organisation then you have a defence, but otherwise you have no defence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This legislation is obviously directed towards having a chilling effect on advocacy and activism of organisations outside of the mainstream. That’s obvious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you gotta remember that there is no procedural fairness. The fact that your organisation gets banned and then you have 15 years hanging over your head, that’s the punishment!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously having your rights taken away that you can’t politically associate or politically express yourself in that particular way, that’s the punishment!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ll go off on a little bit of a tangent here. In my case, the Roman salute case that was brought against me in the Magistrates Court for which I was convicted and then I appealed. Went to the county court and was had had the conviction against me upheld. They argued that the Roman salute offences are very narrow and hence it could be justified taking away that form of political expression. They did admit it was political expression but they said they could take it away because it was relatively narrow what it was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well you know, now it’s having very serious consequences because that offence, giving a slew has been recategorized as a “<em>hate crime</em>” and it can be used to retroactively ban a organisation like a 300 man organisation and threaten its leaders with 15 year sentences if they continue. A lot of the judiciary get too focused. They get narrow minded, they don’t understand like how dangerous these laws you give them an inch, they’re going to take a mile. And this legislation is taking a mile. It is insanity! Also vindictiveness! Like I don’t know how it could occur to you to have a maximum of 15 years for some of these charges when you can be prohibited as a hate group because you moved your arm in a particular way that offends the jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And another case that I saw on the news today actually funnily enough was someone who’s been charged with threatening to kill the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. And the charge for which he’s been charged, threatening to kill an MP is a maximum of five years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you get a maximum of five years for threatening to kill an MP. If you direct the activities of a prohibited hate group. A prohibited hate group that gave the Roman salute. You can be in prison for 15 years. That sounds perfectly reasonable!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Part Five is “<em>Racial vilification offence</em>”. And this offence is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Publicly promoting or inciting hatred. A person commits an offence if the person engages in conduct in a public place.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And to be clear, the Internet includes a public place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Basically everywhere is a public place except for inside your own home where it can’t be seen by the public. But the Internet counts, as is sending it through the mail, some sort of business, or out on the street or something like that. All counts as a public place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the conduct is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Promote or incite hatred of another person, or a group of persons because of their race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, or disseminate ideas of superiority over or hatred of another person, or a group of persons because of the race, colour, or national or ethnic origin of the target or target group. And the conduct would, in all the circumstances, cause a reasonable person who is the target, a member, or a member of the target group to be intimidated, to fear harassment or violence, or to fear for their safety.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they call the “<em>reasonable person test</em>” as an objective test, but really it just comes down to the judge to decide who a reasonable person is, to describe who the reasonable person is so really, it isn’t actually a objective test. It’s just a subjective test. Like, it comes down to what the judge thinks. It’s not like there’s any empirical data about who this average person is based on polling or anything. It just comes down to the judge, who he thinks, he or she thinks this reasonable person of the group of a particular ethnic or racial group is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[21:42]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously you can be charged here with a criminal offence if you:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Disseminate ideas of superiority over a group of persons because of their race, colour, national or ethnic origin.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you can’t say that particular nations are better than other nations. So if you say “<em>Australia is better than China</em>”, well, you could be charged. You could be charged with this. I’m not saying that that’s likely to happen, but with what this law says, I’m somebody who is disliked by the government. If I said that “<em>Australia is a better society, Australia is a better nation than China</em>”, well, that’s disseminating an idea of superiority over a group of persons because of their national origin. Maybe I could say that and someone feels intimidated or they feel fearful. And the issue is, there’s so many people in this society that feel intimidated or fear from the littlest things. We’ve become a very soft society. And judges love to rule based on sentimentality when it comes to these things! And you can be imprisoned up to five years for publicly promoting or inciting racial hatred. Yeah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“For the purposes of subsection 1, it is immaterial whether the target or members of the target group actually are distinguished by the particular race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, or the conduct actually results in hatred of another person or group of persons, or the conduct actually results in any person feeling intimidated, feeling harassment or violence, or feeling fearing for their safety.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what that says is that they don’t have to prove that any person of that particular race or nation or ethnicity was present and kind of a target of it. They don’t have to prove that hatred was actually kind of incited in somebody. They don’t need to prove that anyone was intimidated, felt harassed, or feared for their safety. None of that actually has to be proven because a judge can come up with this magical, reasonable person of that group, this imaginary person, and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This person has been targeted. This imaginary person has been targeted. It could potentially have led to hatred being incited in other people and it could have potentially intimidated or made someone, this imaginary person, fear for their life.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At least you have a defense here for religious teaching or discussion:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Subsection (1) does not apply to conduct that consists only of directly quoting from or otherwise referencing a religious text for the purpose of religious teaching or discussion.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is lucky for our Muslim friends who can quote directly from that Hadith saying that the stones and the trees are going to tell them where the so the Muslims are safe in that regard, and so they should be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Part 7. Hate symbols – Reversing the burden of proof for public interest elements of prohibited symbols offences.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it means that there’s already these hate symbol laws. So if you display a hate symbol or you display the swastika or give the Roman salute, there were defenses saying that you could do these things as long as there was a public interest like a religious, academic, educational, artistic, literary or scientific purpose that isn’t contrary to the public interest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And previously the prosecution would have to prove themselves that this hate symbol or the salute wasn’t given for one of those legitimate purposes. So it’s been flipped now, that if you display this a symbol or give the salute or anything like that, then you can be charged. And then you have to prove that you did it for a legitimate purpose, like a religious, academic, educational, artistic, literary or scientific purpose.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so basically this gets rid of the presumption of innocence, and so it makes it easier for the prosecution to charge people and drag them through the courts. Because if you post a picture of Hitler with the swastika, you can be charged. They don’t need to prove that you did it for hateful reasons. Actually you need to prove that you didn’t do it for hateful reasons.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what it literally does. It reverses the burden of proof. An example would be if I posted a photo of Hitler next to the swastika. I can be charged easier because the prosecution doesn’t have to prove that I posted it for a hateful purpose. I have to defend myself in court and say, perhaps I posted it for an academic purpose or to teach or something like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[27:15]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The other thing is the prohibited hate group symbols are added to the criminal offences. So it’s not only just terrorist symbols and the swastika and the Roman salute. So if NSN got banned, the converging arrows, for example, the converging arrows, flag or the patch, you’d be able to be charged with displaying that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>These laws also have a minimum one year in jail. So a judge has to give you a year in jail if you’re convicted of this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ve went through all the hate speech stuff in this Bill with you. I think it’s clear that the people that wrote this Bill don’t care about the basic legal principles that are supposed to underpin the whole of our judicial system, like natural justice, presumption of innocence, freedom of speech, freedom of association, proportionality. Non-retroactivity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what has been the response? One Nation has come out opposing it, which is good for them. The Liberal Party have come out opposing it as well, but they’ve said that they want to come up with their own version of it, which I suggest would be far more watered down than this, which would be good.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But these laws don’t need to be passed. There are laws that stop people. Well, that criminalises terrorism. It’s not like the person who went and shot those people in Bondi is at liberty because there’s a fault in the laws. He’s going to spend the rest of his life in jail. Changing the laws isn’t going to fix any of this. It’s going to make it worse!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The real danger isn’t what we have to do to apparently solve “<em>hate</em>”. The problem is what are we going to do to solve the fact that we have a government that wants to destroy all the principles that are supposed to underpin our judicial system because they don’t like particular groups, opposition groups in society, whether they be National Socialist or Islamist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The response from the entire online Right has been very positive. Like everyone is raging about this, like it’s all that anyone is talking about in the Australian Right-wing now. Everyone has come out against it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We have the Home Affairs Shadow Minister, this guy, the dishonourable Jonathan Duniam, some total nobody no one’s ever heard of or cares about. And he was mocking the National Socialist Network for us, saying that this Bill is draconian.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800080;">Jonathan Duniam:</span></strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #800080;">“Of course they cite in that statement that these laws ‘most draconian in the universe, making freedom of speech impossible, etc, etc’. Clearly they’ve seen this identification of formal groupings and hate group listing etc., as something to try and avoid, which is good in one sense.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I think he went and checked the Internet and saw that everyone else was saying it as well and then he changed his positions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What’s the response been from the Muslims? The Muslim response has been good. They’ve been coming out against it and you know, they shouldn’t be banned. There’s been like arguments that the problem with these laws is it doesn’t come out hard enough against Islam. These laws shouldn’t be passed at all! Even if they were going to be just confined to Muslims. These laws need to be opposed. We don’t need to ban any of these Muslims organisations. Now just because two Muslims went and killed 15 people, it doesn’t mean that we have to destroy the judicial system that governs 27 million people. Like the threat is not these two Muslim terrorists killing 15 people, it’s the Commonwealth that is unnecessarily going to destroy all of our freedoms. Proposing this supposed solution that’s not even going to do anything. It’s not going to do anything to stop terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then we saw fat Ross who runs the White Rose Society, she’s an anti-fascist. She described it as “<em>state oppression</em>”. I think you’re right there for once. And then Socialist Alternative came out against it. Their front group for Palestine. So they’ve got a group they use to organise Palestinian activists. They came out against it, so good on them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jews say it doesn’t go far enough. To be expected. I don’t think I need to comment much more on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Mainstream media has largely came out against it as well. They’ve been publishing voices that come out against it. They haven’t really been publishing any voices that go for it other than the jews. And everyone, when it comes down to it, everyone hates this Bill other than the jews. And luckily I don’t think it’s gonna pass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Greens have come out against it. But they said they might be open to just amending it. But I’m not sure how likely that actually is. But wouldn’t it be just a perfect summation of how stupid and disgusting this country is, if after a Muslim terrorist attack in Bondi they draughted these laws which go to severely persecute and oppress National Socialists and Islamists, if the Greens amended it so that it didn’t go after Islamists and then it only affected National Socialists! So White Australians and National Socialists would be the only ones who get punished for an Islamist terrorist attack. Stranger things have happened. That sounds like something the Commonwealth would do. And that just tells you how reprehensible it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in the first place, the fact that we are under threat, the National Socialist Network is under threat from laws that are draughted up from a Muslim terrorist attack says all that it needs to. Why are we getting banned from for an attack that has nothing to do with us? I could at least understand the rationale, even though I’d disagree with it, if some sort of Right-wing or nationalist person went out and shot people, or shot an MP or something like that, I could understand the rationale. But for us to be banned for Muslim terrorism?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, with the Greens and the Coalition coming out against its looking more and more like it’s not going to pass, which is a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Nonetheless, the National Socials Network is disbanding. Some people are disappointed by that. I saw someone on Twitter, or X as it’s now called, said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We should be martyrs and that we should continue operations until we get charged with these 15 year offences.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just be the martyrs, bro!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, perhaps you should do that in my stead. Maybe put on a converging arrows patch, make your own one, dress up in black and go out there, get arrested on our behalf. Just be a martyr, bro!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s not going to be any way to get around this. Like they’re not going to be charitable, they’re not going to help you out. If you even slightly do something that could be perceived as continuing the organisation after it gets banned, you’re going to be arrested, charged, remanded and facing serious jail time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:20]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s no oversight in terms of whether or not the listing is correct. Like you get listed, it’s a done deal! You go before a judge, if you are genuinely continuing or doing any of those offences, there’s nothing he can do. He has to find you guilty or you go before a jury. And if they find you guilty, then you’re getting punished severely. You’re getting probably half a decade in jail at the very least.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s been people on the far-Right who love to engage in victim blaming. So they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The only reason this is happening is because the National Socialist Network engages in street activism, dresses up in black, praises Adolf Hitler, gave the Roman salutes in the past.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of that kind of hard hitting, confronting street activism. But we’re not the ones that pass these laws. Like agency obviously belongs to the legislature and the people who control the people who run the legislature, so obviously the jewish lobby.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if anyone is to blame for these laws, it’s not the groups that are being banned. And it’s being done in response to these two Muslim shooters in Bondi. But it’s not even their fault. It’s not the fault of Muslim preachers, it’s not the fault of National Socialist activists. And this is the thing. It’s taking the blame away from the actual agent that has perpetrated this, who has created this, and it’s pushing it on the people who are getting targeted and who are going to suffer the most from these laws.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The real blame is the jewish lobby and the Australian government. That is why these laws are coming through. The people that push for them, the people who wrote them up and the people that passed them. But the issue is even if we had better optics, these laws would still be being brought through and we would still be under threat of getting banned. And this has been proven by other countries where you have groups like Generation Identity in France that got banned by the French state. I don’t think anyone’s gonna argue that their optics were an issue. Their optics were pretty tame, yet they got banned.</p>
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<p>So whatever represents the strongest force of nationalism in a particular country, the jewish lobby and the government is going to try to legislate them out of existence. That’s what’s going to happen. And if we were the Nationalist Network and we didn’t wear black clothes and we just wore regular clothes, I guess regular bourgeois clothes, maybe suits and ties and had said “<em>Australia for the Australians</em>”, if we were the biggest group, we would still be getting banned. That’s the truth!</p>
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<p>In this regard, all roads lead to Rome, as I’m sure some of you have seen in the memes recently with the rabbit with its clock. You know, it doesn’t matter which road you go down, you’re eventually going to go to Rome and it doesn’t matter what road you go down when you have an unjust system, you’re eventually going to be banned by it if you’re a big enough threat to its agenda. So you need to stop bargaining with the system when it’s fundamentally unjust.</p>
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<p>And the optics people, the only thing that would be different in this situation is these optics people, because of their particular ideas of activism, they would just be a bit more sympathetic.</p>
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<p>But people should stand for principles and ideas and for an actual fair legal system more than just perception and optics, in my opinion.</p>
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<p>We really don’t need to total our legal system. What angers the government and the jewish lobby is that we have deeply felt political conviction and that we want to do whatever we can to further our political agenda while staying on the right side of the law. So we’re trying to stay within the legal framework while pushing forward our political agenda, what we deeply, deeply believe in. And that is what angers them the most. And it angers them so much that they don’t care about their own rules, they don’t care about their own judicial system, they don’t care about any of this.</p>
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<p>Of course, the jewish lobby never really cared. It shows you that the people that profess to be liberal Democrats in this government and one of their claims for legitimacy, how little they care about it. They don’t care about their own rules, they don’t care about their own system anymore.</p>
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<p>And it’s pretty obvious that these people have no respect for the system of government that our ancestors erected at the beginning of the last century. I might have a so-called “<em>violent extremist</em>” opinion here, but I don’t think we should total our legal system. The legal system and the principles underpinning the judicial system of yesteryear, it’s actually one of the things I do like about this country. And they accused me of hating Australia. You know, I don’t hate Australia. I don’t hate the nation, I don’t hate the continent.</p>
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<p>I do certainly hate the Commonwealth, because a government that cooks up legislation like this is reprehensible!</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Joel Davis</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Terrorism is Either Gay or Faked by Jews</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> to Take Our Rights Away</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thu, Dec 19, 2024</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell discuss the following:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They revisit “last week’s big stories,” including a synagogue fire in Victoria and proposed protest laws.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Proposed laws are disproportionate to the still-unclear synagogue fire case and they curtail peaceful political demonstration.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They discuss a new “anti-doxing” push and bans on masks at protests; speculate it will affect both their own events and Antifa.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">A segment critiques a police post about “racially motivated offensive behaviour” in Balaclava; comments online mock the appeal for public help.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Jokes about “recruiting” the suspect and rails against “offensive behaviour” as a criminal category.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Recent US shootings; Joel says terrorism has become “lame,” while another condemns it as “deranged” and calls for harsh penalties.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They briefly mention a teenage school shooter in the U.S., calling the alleged manifesto incoherent.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They are criticising, not endorsing, politically motivated violence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Past terror events (9/11) being “false flag” operations.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">New Victorian laws are a response to protect one group’s feelings rather than public safety.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Clip played: Victoria Premier Jacinta Allan announces measures to combat hate and protect religious communities.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Allan: “We will be setting a standard… We do not tolerate anti-semitism… just as we do not tolerate any form of hate.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Measures include: Banning flags, symbols of listed terrorist groups (e.g., Hamas, Hezbollah, “White national extremist” groups), banning face masks at protests, and banning devices used to obstruct.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Allan: “We will legislate to protect the right for people to gather and pray free from fear, harassment and intimidation.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Criticise the announcement as selectively protecting certain groups and omitting “Whites” explicitly.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They predict a mask ban could force them into more “normie” optics; argue it might backfire by making them look more approachable.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They note Left-wing and libertarian criticism of the proposed laws and foresee legal tests in higher courts.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They speculate anti-doxxing laws could be used to sue Left-wing activists and media (if enforced even-handedly).</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Hosts question enforcement practicality and the long-term makeup of police, speculating more foreign-born officers over time.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They imagine future “optics” of “Indian cops vs. White lads” creating public sympathy for their side.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Tom Sewell joins; shows a new mustache; announces a baby on the way.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They discuss timing of fatherhood; pros/cons of having children younger vs. older.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Tom: “Our children are [our] afterlife… we heal this world by making better humans.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Modern life undermines men’s need for peace and quiet to develop a mission / focus.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Cite purported historical practices of fathers taking a larger role with boys after around age 10.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They stress building personal constitution, family legacy, and “better humans” as the core purpose.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Victorian laws; argue the tone is didactic (“primary school teacher” style).</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They say government speaks as if laws are already passed, projecting “will to power.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They frame the synagogue-fire response as a “non-physical” form of public pressure resulting in funding and laws.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Such laws risk alienating the public during cost-of-living stress.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Preferential protections and funding for jewish institutions versus slow responses to attacks on Christian communities.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Public attitudes will be shaped by perceived overreach, potentially aiding the movement.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They discuss Overton Window dynamics: Left runs to extremes to shift the centre; conservatives chase the centre and lose ground.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They shift to “Parmindagate”: One Nation WA running Sikh businessman Parminder Singh as an upper-house candidate.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">A new anonymous Twitter account alleges Parminder supports mass immigration and donated to One Nation WA; Punjabi Properties appears as a sponsor on campaign shirts.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Hosts say this conflicts with One Nation’s anti-immigration image and supporters’ expectations.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They note a One Nation WA event served curry and displayed “Punjabi Properties” on shirts larger than party branding.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Video: WA leader Rod Caddies introduces Parminder Singh to rebut claims; Singh says he supports One Nation policies.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Singh: “English is my third language,” explaining why his videos may be slow / halting; he claims to back “Net Zero immigration.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Singh’s past public statements (pro-student visas, pro-immigration) contradict his new stance; they say he owes an explanation for the change.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They criticise Caddies for “blocking” critics and treating it as a PR problem rather than a policy conflict.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Noticer reports WA MLC Ben Dawkins resigned from One Nation; hosts suggest timing indicates discomfort with the Parminder controversy.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Quoted: Dawkins wrote he holds Pauline Hanson “in high regard” but will continue as an independent; hosts infer concerns around immigration direction.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Demand Pauline Hanson address the situation and consider dropping the candidate.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They warn One Nation risks losing nationalist voters to a Libertarian Party—if the latter offers a tougher immigration platform.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Insist “votes have to be earned” and won’t endorse parties that run pro-immigration candidates.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Big business and finance lobby both major parties for high immigration, which they say drives housing pressure and wage stagnation.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They rebut “it’s greedy landlords, not immigration,” arguing the corporate sector itself pushes for more migration and benefits from it.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Anti-racism norms protect profits by chilling debate on immigration’s economic impacts.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Left prioritizes “anti-fascism” over anti-capitalism and aligns de facto with corporate social values.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">They cite Werner Sombart’s thesis on jewish roles in the development of modern capitalism.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Jewish-linked property development (e.g., high-rise) helped reshape Australian cities and weaken traditional family patterns.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">A specific example named: Billionaire developer Harry Triguboff in the high-rise sector.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Describe a viral CCTV assault case and complain about immigration policy, while such crimes underscore their position.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Practical protest talk: They discuss capsicum spray effects; say masks don’t stop it; goggles matter more.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">A Superchat jokes that Tom’s mustache needs a “badge”; Tom says in a healthy society he could’ve been a good cop.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Another Superchat asks about “Midsummer”; hosts mention a private, themed Christmas gathering.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">A Superchat urges supporting one’s own in business; they endorse buying local, sourcing from White / Australian farmers, and minimising dealings with large chains.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Encourage listeners to keep pressure on One Nation via Twitter replies and to watch for Ben Dawkins’ full statement.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Likely won’t stream again before Christmas; wish viewers well, thank supporters, and sign off with plans to continue campaigns in the new year.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>UPDATE Jan 11, 2026:</strong> &#8220;Joel Davis who has been in jail for almost two months after being denied bail for an alleged Telegram post has been hit with seven more charges for allegedly vilifying Jews, Indians and Africans on a podcast and during an election stunt.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We should be live. It is the 19th of December, 2024, and another show for you guys this evening. Our big stories from last week seem to continue to be the big stories again. The war on freedom by the jews perpetuates. So we’ll be talking about that. And with the new laws that they’re proposing to bring it into Victoria because there was a synagogue fire that was allegedly, I think a jew did it. But they haven’t actually determined who did it. But that’s good enough reason, even though they haven’t determined who did it or why, to take away freedoms to politically demonstrate peacefully. Like, what’s the connection? So we’ll discuss that.</p>
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<p>We’ll also discuss the development of th<span style="color: #333333;">e Parminder Singh Gate</span> or Parmindigate, as it’s been called on Twitter, where, yeah, One Nation have been running this Indian candidate and it’s caused, I mean, the story., &#8230; There’s so many new elements to the story. I wrote an opinion piece on it a few days ago for The Noticer and there’s even more elements of the story coming through now. So we’re going to talk about that.</p>
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<p>Also, there’s been another shooting in America that’s kind of gay and weird, but instead of was, I guess, at least it’s a different shooting than last week. But yeah, this teenage girl, you know, trying to be edgy, doing some dumb school shooting. The alleged manifesto that was her manifesto was, yeah, really like incoherent and weak. So we’ll be discussing that and some other things. Thomas Sewell will be joining us soon as well, so we’ll get his thoughts as well this evening on all of this.</p>
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<p>But how you doing this evening, Blair?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All right. I just worked out how to share this on an X account because on my phone I can’t see a lot of your tweets. There’s some sort of ban or layer of censorship on the posts that you make. And I still haven’t actually worked out how to get around that on my phone, I think I can see them on my laptop. So I was able to share for the first time, I’m sharing our show on X and I’m glad I figured out how to do it.</p>
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<p>Other than that, yeah, I’m fine, man! Everything’s good. Been training pretty hard, which has resulted in me feeling a bit more stressed. Well, not feeling stressed, but my body is showing signs of stress. Like I have a little, a mini, little ulcer on my tongue, probably from training too much. But I’m getting more time to train because it’s coming up to the end of the year and clients are starting to drop off, people are getting ready for Christmas, and I have more free time. I’m glad for that you know, it gives me the time, the chance to get inside my own head and process my own thoughts, which I really enjoy doing. Actually, I feel like if I don’t get that time, I get very angry.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, a little bit tired, but I’ll stay with it. Like you said, the news seems to be just further developments on what we talked about last week, but still interesting.</p>
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<p>Yeah, just a little segue before we get stuck into it, before Tom arrives, I was just scrolling X as one does, and I saw a picture of what I thought was a young me. I’m like:</p>
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<p>But then on closer inspection, it wasn’t me, but it was posted by Victoria police. They’re looking for a guy. Yeah, see if you can bring it up, because they’re looking for a guy in Balaclava, which is a suburb down in Victoria, Australia, which is heavily populated by jews. I think.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Police are investigating a report of racially motivated offensive behaviour.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know what that means exactly, but that looks exactly like me when I was a teenager. Look at that. This looks like skinny, younger me coming home from work.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Pre-steroid Blair.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Come on man! Anyway, scroll down. Scroll down because police.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I got my cop coming in. He didn’t do nothing!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I know. I saw that. And I think it’s one of the best, but keep scrolling down. I mean, everybody, this is a serious story, right? Offensive behaviour, racially motivated offensive conduct. Should read the comments for more information.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> What is the charge? Speaking of slur, a succulent ethnic slur! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Being White in public is now illegal! Where’s his energy? Motivated violence against Whites by Sudanese immigrants at train stations. Comfy, friend with the big comment there? Yeah, what the fuck is offensive behaviour?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Even if I knew him, I wouldn’t report it to you fucking pigs! All the boys in there and the girls. Yeah, look at this guy. He’s just photoshopped a jew’s face. Arrest all people who look like this. People are just going hard in the comments.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s what community pressure looks like. That’s what a legitimate, organic community response to a police story looks like. If you give everyone free speech, this is what happens. That’s why free speech is a great thing! That’s why we support free speech, because that gives us the ability to speak. And this is what happens. A lot more people out there have more based opinions than you realise. And threads like that demonstrate that reality.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Quite funny. Well, I hope they don’t catch him.</p>
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<p>But if you do have any information on this individual. Please forward it to the NSN contact bot. We’d love to recruit him. We’re pretty racially motivated ourselves.</p>
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<p>But anyway, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that is a funny story. I mean, hopefully doesn’t get in trouble. I don’t know what happened there, but it’s obviously a nothing burger. Offensive behaviour is the most ridiculous crime. Like, how is that even a crime? We should have a right to behave offensively in this country. I mean, what the hell, we’re Australians! This is ridiculous! But I digress.</p>
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<p>As I said, there’s a few big stories to talk about the first thing I want to talk about, Blair, you were shutting me down last week because I was talking about how that Luigi, I can’t remember his last name, some Italian shit! That Luigi guy in America who shot the CEO of some health insurance company or whatever. I was saying that the terror, it was kind of gay and boring. You know, his terrorism was boring. It wasn’t interesting. This is a far cry from the interesting terrorists of yesteryear. You know, like Ted Kaczynski or whatever. I’m not going to rattle off all the names. And you were trying to shut me down. You know, you were saying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Hey, that’s a pretty rough way to put it. I wasn’t trying to shut you down.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Just trying to cancel me. I wasn’t being politically correct enough. The “<em>woke</em>” were coming at me.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We need to be smart. If you’re going to start talking about sensitive topics, we need to skim across the surface of them without getting too analytical, you know, sharing opinions. You know, that’s the way things are. I don’t want to be, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like I said terrorism, but I was saying the opposite. I was saying that this particular piece of terrorism is gay. And it’s like the, like terrorism has lost its way. And then I think that was an accurate call because then an even gayer form of terrorism happened in America this week, or a few days ago with this 15 year old girl who’s a little edgelord retard decided to shoot up her school and then kill herself for literally no reason. I read the manifesto this week.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What is this? I haven’t seen any information on this. Have you got something to bring up on the screen?</p>
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<p>But basically she’s a 15 year old girl. Can’t remember her name. But the manifesto was just like deranged rambling about how she doesn’t like her parents and like life sucks! And it was like this like nihilistic yap that had no like discernible point. Like there’s no political message. There was no real existential message. Like it just seemed like she was like moody, like some emo moody chick. And then she’s gone along and like done something crazy like that. Terrorism has just become gay now. I said something on Twitter, like:</p>
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<p>You know, it’s just gay and lame at this point. And the only people that take it seriously are like retarded teenage girls. She was obviously trying to do some kind of like Columbine shooting, you know, homage. But at least the Columbine guys had cool clothes and stuff. They were retarded as well. But at least they had like an aesthetic. They had like an energy.</p>
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<p>The point that I’m making actually is ASIO <span style="color: #008000;">[Australian Security Intelligence Organisation]</span> should be happy about my message. My message is that terrorism has become gay. Don’t try terrorism because you’re going to come off like a fag. Like everyone that’s trying to do this stuff lately. That <span style="color: #008000;">[guy]</span> set himself on fire for Palestine. I can’t remember his name. That was lame as well. It’s all become very like played out at this point. It’s been done. Plenty of others have got the headlines and they’ve done it cooler than you and more interestingly than you. And it’s old at this point! You know, it’s like trying to make a grunge band. It’s like the 90s was like three decades ago. What are you doing? Like, it’s over! No one’s gonna care. You know what I’m saying?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I suppose so.</p>
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<p>I don’t have a lot of thoughts on the matter. I just think shooting or killing random people because you’re mad about something in order to make a statement and have an impact on society or to attempt to have an impact on society. I just think it’s deranged bullshit, man! I always have. I don’t really find any sort of terrorism interesting. I’m not one of those people who’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let’s study these psychos and work out the way the psychology of a pervert, or a murderer, or a paedophile!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s what modern psychology does. It’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let’s deconstruct and understand them.”</span></h3>
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<p>No, you don’t have to understand these people. You just execute them. They’re defective and you just execute them. You know, I have to say that. I can’t say anything even remotely in support of politically motivated violence. Very sensitive times in Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean, that’s what I’m saying. I’m criticising politically motivated violence. I’m saying every time someone seems to engage in it just keeps getting gayer and gayer. Like, I mean, terrorism is either gay or it’s totally fake! Like this fake jew firebombing on the synagogue. I mean you had 9/11 where the jews blew up the Twin Towers, <span style="color: #008000;">[see links below re 9/11 being a ZOG false flag]</span> and then like, blamed it on, &#8230; Apparently we had to invade Iraq for some reason because an Israeli think tank commissioned by Benjamin Netanyahu in the 1990s, transplanted itself into America, called itself the Project of the New American Century <span style="color: #008000;">[PNAC]</span>. And then Richard Perle, this dual citizen, ends up saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, this idea that we had in this Israeli think tank about invading Iraq in the mid-90s, we’re going to like, dress it up in neocon language and then try and sell it to conservatives in America in 1999.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then he gets put into the Bush administration and then the jews do the fake 9/11. And then even the official story is that there was Saudi Arabian terrorists. What the hell does that have to do with Iraq?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-23934" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1024x724.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="453" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1024x724.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-600x424.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-768x543.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1536x1086.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911.jpg 1546w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p>But that really pissed everybody off. And then boom, da, da boom! Apparently Saddam Hussein has Weapons of Mass Destruction and he’s friends with Al Qaeda or something. And then the CIA literally said to the Bush administration:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s bullshit! Like, our intelligence doesn’t say that.”</span></h3>
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<p>And so they created a whole sub-dimension of the government called the Office of Special Plans run by the Zionists and jews in the Bush administration to create all this fake intelligence as a pretext to invade Iraq. We invade Iraq:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, there’s no Weapons of Mass Destruction!”</span></h3>
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<p>But Israel’s plan from the mid-90s to invade Iraq gets achieved.</p>
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<p>So this is the jewish playbook. Fake terrorism is a jewish playbook. And you know that basically was used as a pretext to destroy, to basically bring in all these new laws that facilitated mass surveillance and anti-terrorism legislation that is now being used against nationalists and all the rest of it. And they’re doing it again. The jewish playbook of fake terrorism where you know, they burn their own synagogue and then the solution to your synagogue getting firebombed isn’t a task force against political firebombings or religious firebombings or something. That would actually solve the apparent issue that was created. But we haven’t even figured out who did the firebombing. I don’t think we ever will because I think the Counter Terrorism police know that the jews did it to themselves. But apparently the solution is to ban masks at public demonstrations and to prevent people from doing rallies within 150 meters of religious buildings, which by the way, there’s churches all through the centre of Melbourne.</p>
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<p>So that means that like major landmarks in Melbourne, like I think Flinders Street Station, we’ve done rallies before over the years. I remember watching a video of you, Blair, from I think Tom might have been there too. This is like from like eight or nine years ago you guys did a rally at Flinders Street Station. And obviously we did the ‘Mass Deportations Now’ rally earlier this year, you know, at Flinders Street Station or partially at Flinders Street Station. So that’s a very significant landmark in Melbourne, right across from Fed Square. But it’s within 150 meters of a church. So now you can’t do a demonstration there? Oh well, not now. But when these laws inevitably get passed. What the hell does that have to do with firebombing? Firebombing is already illegal. Why can’t you just prosecute the firebombing?</p>
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<p>But what this shows is that what jews are afraid of isn’t actually terrorism, but they’re afraid of his criticism! You know, every time jews do a fake terror attack, all the laws that they get passed and the agenda that gets passed has nothing to do with the original thing. It’s just an excuse to violate your rights and to direct the government into doing things that the jews already wanted to do prior to the alleged act. And we’ve seen now as well, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Why do you think jews are afraid of criticism?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, they’re afraid of criticism because they’ve committed crimes on like a societal scale. They subverted this country. They have incredible power, way more power than they should have as 0.4% of the population.</p>
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<p>And also they use that power to siphon off resources and support for Israel even though Israel’s got nothing to do with Australia. Why does Peter Dutton do press conferences with the Australian flag and the Israeli flag behind him? Why? Why is Israel even an issue in Australian politics? It’s on the other side of the fucking world! What relevance does it have to us? Nothing! The relevance it has is that jews control Australia. Jews control Australian politics. Like what the Jacinta Allan, the Premier of Victoria, said in a press conference is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is what we’re going to do for the jews.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then outlined a whole series of laws that they’re going to pass. She literally said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is for the jews!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s crazy! They’re 0.4% of the population. Why do they just have the major parties? Because the Liberals love the jews even more than Labor. Why are they falling over themselves to prove how much they love the jews and prostrate themselves before them and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re doing as much as we can to pass as many laws to make it impossible for the people you don’t like!”</span></h3>
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<p>Which isn’t just us. They’re coming after us to try to destroy our ability to protest, but they’re also going after the pro-Palestine Left. They want to shut down any kind of political activity that jews don’t like. And this is somehow relevant because if people do political activity that’s critical of jews, someone might want to go and firebomb a synagogue or something. And so like, you can’t just have a law against firebombing. You have to completely control how people think and how people act so just ban all criticism of jews from society entirely. I mean, it’s ridiculous! It’s tyrannical!</p>
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<p>But nevertheless, what the government is showing is that to them, jewish feelings matter more than our freedoms or any kind of modicum of fairness. I mean, there was a church in Geelong that was burnt down a few weeks ago. Where’s the anti-Christian task force? There was a priest stabbed in Sydney earlier this year in the middle of a church service by a Muslim terrorist. You know, like it’s only the jews that get these special protections.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[16:47]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Not just interject for a moment to draw attention to Tom Sewell’s new moustache. Looking great, mate! Kind of reminiscent of Mosley or something. What made you go with the stash?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Hello, can you hear me?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Loud and clear.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> This is the first stream that I’ve done for the Joel, &#8230; Sorry, let me just mute all my shit!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> &#8230; For a few weeks, man! What’s happening?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Well, I needed some time to process, you know, digest. There’s a lot going on in the world, obviously. But, yeah, I got a new cam and a new mic, so hopefully I’m coming through nice and clear. The MO was just “<em>Movember</em>” for last month, and I decided to keep it because my dad had a MO when I was born. So I figured I’ll keep it until the next one’s born. I got a baby on the way, so could be anytime soon. I won’t say exactly how soon, but very soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, congratulations, man! It’s exciting stuff! Lots of boys having babies in the community throughout Australia, I’ve noticed. Lots of new families being started. Some guys quite young, too. They’re getting started young. They’re like 22 years old. Punching our kids already, which is awesome to see. I think it’s better off having kids when you’re younger. They’re bound to be healthier when you’re younger. What do you guys think?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, I do regret in some ways not starting younger. And the main reason for that is. Yeah, it’s the first six months especially is really hard, and it takes up a lot of your time. It all works out, I think, anyway. At the end of the day, you either have kids early and then you develop that part of your life while you’re young. And then when you’re older, you can develop deeper parts of your understanding philosophy. You have more time to yourself.</p>
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<p>I mean, I know a lot of Boomers and a lot of that generation, once their kids grow up, they kind of just go on holiday. But I think what you’re meant to do is leave some sort of intellectual legacy. You’re meant to do something worthwhile. A lot of people just, it’s sort of career or holiday. They don’t really think about anything more than that.</p>
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<p>But the other way of doing it, rather than having kids and then developing that stuff later, is you develop in your 20s and 30s, your world view and your philosophy, your personal constitution, and then you have kids later, in which case you’re going to then struggle to have time to continue to develop, but hopefully you’ve laid enough of a foundation. So I think it balances out. But I would have preferred to have been changing nappies and going through screaming babies in my early 20s than my early 30s. So I sympathize with those in their 40s that are doing it. I can certainly think of better things to be doing in my 40s than dealing with screaming babies. Because you just want peace and quiet.</p>
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<p>As a man, I think the most important thing for developing your personal constitution is peace and quiet. And if you’re just in constant baby family chaos, you can’t really develop like your drive, your mission, your focus. You kind of just caught up in the feminine chaos of the babies. So it makes me think a lot about our ancestors and our ancestral culture. A lot of ancient Germanic and Celtic cultures. They didn’t! The father didn’t really have much of a this is what I’ve read. I don’t know if this is fact, but what I’ve read is that the fathers didn’t have much input until the sons turned 10 and there was sort of a transfer of ownership. Men sort of stayed out of the mums and bubs club, so to speak, and the toddlers and all that. Obviously you’re still there, you’re still present, but you know, there’s a water fight usually. So yeah, not until a boy’s around 10 years old is there that one on one time consistently.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I could imagine you would feel once you’ve had a child even more of a drive to make a difference and to do something that makes you useful. Do you find that’s a sensation you’ve experienced after having a kid?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, absolutely! It’s what ties us to the infinite.</p>
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<p>So I believe that our children are our afterlife and that we heal this world by making better humans. I think that’s the primary point of what we’re doing. We make better humans. We’re in this mess because of shit humans. We can talk about the jews, we can talk about the Africans, we can talk about all these horrible circumstances, economic pressures. But all of this, in my opinion, is secondary to the quality of humans we’re producing. And if we produce better quality humans in terms of environment, stock, that software, you know what operating system, what personal constitution are you plugging into them? How are you explaining the world to them? And how are you helping them grow and adapt and overcome this dystopian society that we live in?</p>
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<p>So to me that’s absolutely crucial and it’s extremely motivating because. Yeah, it’s like when you have kids, then you’re trying to create a better world for them, not just like your motivation is now rooted to the centre.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:01]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And why wouldn’t you make better quality versions of yourself if you could? Why wouldn’t you make copies of yourself? I mean, our own lives in the span of all existence, eternity, are absurdly short. Our lives are like a blip on the screen. And we are here now because our parents, their parents, all made copies of themselves. We are just copies of our forefathers, forebearers. So I’ve always believed the same thing too. Like, what is a greater purpose than trying to breed a higher humanity? At the end of the day, that’s the only real meaning of life that in this physical realm we can understand to be true and worth pursuing.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Absolutely, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So anyway, onto the news stories. I think I’ll just play this clip, actually. I’ll get you guys to react. I know a lot of people have probably seen it, but this is the Premiere of Victoria, Jacinta Allan announcing these new laws that they want to pass.</p>
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<p>Jacinta Allan: Today, the government of Victoria renews its promise to jews and to everyone of every background. Whoever you are, whoever you pray to, you deserve to be safe and welcome here in this state. Today too, we support that promise with strong action, strong action to fight hate and help Victorians heal! Action that I will now outline. We will be setting a standard, a standard that we do not tolerate anti-semitism. We do not tolerate anti-semitism! Just as we do not tolerate any form of hate, racism or discrimination against a jew, a Muslim, a Sikh, a Hindu, a Chinese Victorian, or against a woman, against a gay, lesbian or trans person. It’s all despicable! All racism is wrong! All racism is evil! It’s hateful, it’s corrosive. And anti-semitism is racism! And there are too many, there are too many who want to qualify anti-semitism or make excuses for it. And I want to make it absolutely clear that I never will!</p>
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<p>We’ve also had enough of the protests that have caused division and disruption in our streets. Now, peaceful protests can and must be protected in this state. Protests that harm others cannot!</p>
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<p>Firstly, we will ban the flags and symbols of listed terrorist organisations in public. That includes Hamas, Hezbollah and several other groups, including White national extremists and radical, racist, violent extremist Right-wing groups. We will also ban the use of face masks and balaclavas at protests. We know they are being used to conceal identities, shield agitators from crowd control measures, like capsicum spray. Well, face masks aren’t a free pass to break the law. And there should be no place to hide in this state if you’re a racist stirring up hate on the streets.</p>
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<p>And we’re also going to ban the use of glue, rope, chains, locks and other dangerous attachment devices that protesters use to cause maximum disruption and also endanger others. There was an incident that occurred, an incident that was both rightly condemned, but also an incident that became the Genesis of the work that we have released on introducing stronger anti-vilification laws to the Victorian Parliament. But we know it’s rearing its head again and we will act. We will legislate to protect the right for people to gather and pray free from fear, free from harassment and free from intimidation from, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, she only mentions enemies of the jewish community. Like apparently anti-fascist violence is fine. One of the boys had his car firebombed about a year ago around Christmas, a year ago. That was Leftist extremism. But apparently that’s not a problem because they don’t cause any issue for the jewish community, they only target the enemies of jews! An important point, I think.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, of course! Also you notice there, she didn’t mention in these list of protected groups Whites or any religions that Whites practice in any serious number when she was mentioning religions. So it’s typical, but it’s nevertheless exposing what we say is true, it’s revealing, the system is showing its face that, yeah, as you just said quite accurately, the number one protected community is the jews. No one is allowed to criticise them.</p>
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<p>And then the number two protected communities are basically everyone who isn’t White. And yeah, the banning face masks thing, that will be interesting. Obviously we use them at demonstrations, but we also get criticised a lot for using them. So now we’re just going to have to, probably when they pass these laws in Victoria, we’re going to have to do demonstrations without face masks.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I gotta say this, you guys could look cooler without the masks. I mean, you’re good looking boys. This could be a beautiful blessing in disguise.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[27:14]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We’ve had internal debates about it. Like a lot of us want to take the masks off. And I think it will make us look more human to the public.</p>
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<p>So yeah, it could backfire. Like the jews have banned the Roman salute, they’ve banned the masks and everyone says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh I like what you guys do, but the balaclavas and the Roman salutes that not going to appeal to normies.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, the jews are forcing us to have normie appeal! So if this is how they’re going to play it, I guess we’re going to have to play it by these rules. You know, it is what it is. It’ll be interesting to see if it ends up backfiring on the jews and they just end up making us more popular with the public.</p>
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<p>So I think also the jews are making themselves less popular with the public because they’re making this very explicit, like for a very long time, when you start talking about the jews in Australia, people are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are you like? This is crazy talk!”</span></h3>
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<p>And also it’s very abstract. You’re talking about the banking system or international finance or things happening in America, things happening in the Middle East, things happening historically in Europe, doesn’t feel very real and important to average everyday Australians and their average everyday lives. But this is very explicit. This is the jews coming after your freedoms in Australia in 2024. This is the jews attacking you! Flexing on you!</p>
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<p>And so now the jewish problem isn’t just some abstract problem. It isn’t just some thing that fringe people talk about. Now. This is actually something that everyday Australians have to be confronted with, which is that they live in a jewish dominated society. And why does 0.4% of the population get to order the government around? Why does the government, why are the major parties falling all over themselves to grovel to this group? They’re not a significant voter base. There’s barely any jewish voters.</p>
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<p>So the only reason that they could be groveling to them is because they have money and power! It’s the only reason! They have a lot of it! And that should concern you that your government is beholden to a tiny ethnic group with incredible money and power that can essentially, according to the whims of its hysteria, trash your rights!</p>
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<p>But what’s interesting is that I’m seeing a lot of criticism for these new laws from the far-Left. And also maybe I don’t mind that Antifa’s not allowed to wear masks anymore. You know, they also going to bring in anti-doxing laws in Australia, which the jews pushed for because some jews got doxed by pro-Palestinian activists or whatever.</p>
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<p>So they’re going to ban doxing, they’re going to ban face masks. What’s Antifa going to do now? Like their whole strategy is kind of fucking! Like they can’t go, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Disguises aren’t banned. You just wear disguises. As long as it’s not like a face covering.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, what kind of disguise can you wear that isn’t a face covering?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s like stockings that change your face, but they’re not really a mask or you could wear. And they don’t even look like you’re wearing a mask.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think the law might still cover that. I mean, we don’t know the exact legislation right now, but I would anticipate they wouldn’t leave any of those easy loopholes like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You never know.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I guess we’ll see. But I think, it’s interesting, Antifa’s gonna have to take the masks off. They can’t dox people anymore. Now you’re gonna be able to start, you’re gonna be able to sue the Left. If they dox you for being a White nationalist or something and try and get you fired from your job, you can go after them now. Media too. So that’s interesting.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No one on the Right seems to sue anyone. Well, there’s been a couple of, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, they should we need to try and make use of these laws and because doxing is one of the main weapons the enemy uses to keep people scared, to speak out or even to maintain anonymous accounts or whatever.</p>
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<p>So there’s been plenty of people over the years that I know of that have been advocates for our way of thinking to some level or degree that have been doxed and they’ve been taken out, wiped off the Internet or had their careers ruined or their lives ruined in one way, shape or form. So that’s interesting. But that’s a little bit, that’s a bit of a separate issue.</p>
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<p>But the point is that the rules are changing. Yeah, like I’m annoyed at the rules changing, but it isn’t actually the worst set of rule changes. Like we can adapt to these rule changes. It’s not going to stop us.</p>
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<p>So you know it, all they’re doing is showing their hand. But they’re not really getting a huge win out of this. Like it seems to me to be a misstep where they’re pissing everyone off. I’ve seen the Left is pissed off! Libertarians are pissed off!</p>
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<p>A lot of people that are kind of more pro-Israel or whatever that are on the conservative side, they’re really struggling to defend this. You know, they look kind of silly at this point because now it’s not just about being pro-Palestine or it’s not just about being pro-this group or that group now. It’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, our freedoms!”</span></h3>
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<p>I thought the whole point of being allied with Israel is that they’re a liberal democracy and the Judeo-Christian values and our rights and freedoms and all this bullshit! Well, they’re just showing that’s all nonsense and doesn’t mean anything.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Did you actually think that?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I never thought that, but I’m talking about what conservatives think. I’m saying like the narratives are kind of collapsing to defend the jews from a lot of corners ideologically and they’re losing a lot of support from all corners. You know, when I’ve been making anti, &#8230; I’ll go and leave comments on Twitter that’ll be calling out the jews, but they’ll be some anti-Israel comment. And then I see all the likes are all Leftists. Like a lot of Leftists are genuinely like anti-semitic at this point. They aren’t just anti-Israel. Like, I don’t know, The Times are changing. The jews don’t have a lot of friends and they’re rapidly destroying their friendships in a lot of corners. And they’ve just got all this power they’re holding on. They’re kind of ham fisting through the power and influence that they have on the basis of their finances and their elite institutional power. But they’re not doing it very good of selling it. Their optics is terrible, their public relations is terrible!</p>
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<p>So it’s a perfect environment for us to spread our message against them. So I invite them to make missteps like this to be honest, I’m not. I actually think it’s in a certain way, like it’s a bad thing that they’re doing. Obviously we don’t want these laws, but in a certain way I invite them to do things like this because it’s only proving our point and strengthening our position politically in a certain way.</p>
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<p>What do you think about that Tom? Do you agree or disagree?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[33:31]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I’ll let Blair go first.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was just thinking maybe in the long run it will create strong sense of dissatisfaction, disloyalty in the general community, or maybe they can downgrade the quality of the people so much that kind of fear Police State will be enough to administer them long term. I just think like in the immediate future having laws against anti-semitism which, it’s quite a vague basis for any set of laws, which leads to the police kicking your door down because of some comment you made on the Internet that’s offensive, racially offensive, whatever, probably isn’t a good thing in the short term.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The anti-vilification laws are concerning. Those are different laws than these ones. But yeah, those are the more concerning ones. Those were going to have to fight hard in the courts.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah it doesn’t feel like there are enough people with the right sort of stuff and legal prowess to actually put up a good fight. But I could be wrong. The Clive Palmers out there might have a building full of lawyers that may be useful for that purpose.</p>
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<p>But it’s probably about time some people who still believe in protecting Australia dedicate some resources to defending the rights of Australians. I don’t have any power. I’m just sitting down here in the suburbs trying to run my business and doing my best to pay my taxes. I’m not the sort of person that knows lots of lawyers and that has a lot of influence in this field. But I don’t know, hopefully people out there get the message sooner or later.</p>
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<p>And I’m not seeing any great effort right now in the courts to actually establish, you know, boundaries, freedom of expression for Australians to challenge this legislation that is used to justify hate speech crime and stuff like that. But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe this kind of stuff is just hushed up and I don’t know about it. I’m just saying that I think in the short term all these things can be bad.</p>
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<p>However, I understand what you’re saying. It’s clear overreach. And it lends to the criticism or observations that we’ve already made and we’re trying to make other people aware of that the jewish people do have a great deal of power in our country. Undue power! How did they get it? Who’s allowing them to have it? And how do we take back power for ourselves and establish a destiny, a future existence for ourselves as Australians. Because right now we don’t seem to have one.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, exactly! But what you were saying though, there was a lot of coalescence of support around Jacob <span style="color: #008000;">[Hersant]</span> and his court battles and that’s going up the courts. We don’t expect the lower courts to strike down laws and rule in our favour, but we do expect to have a strong case going up to the Supreme Court and then particularly in the High Court. And the same thing with this anti-vilification legislation. What is key is that the first people that get charged with this stuff, which will probably be our guys in a lot of these situations because they’re going to come for us with these laws, is riding it all the way up to the High Court. And for that we need community support from the nationalist community in general. But not just that, we need to go out beyond that and get libertarians and other adjacent factions that care about defending these rights.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Here’s the thought. How long will White Australian cops willingly enforce these laws? Is there always going to be people who are willing to trade the future of their country for a meagre wage? Or eventually are most cops going to fall off and be replaced with Indians, Chinese and so forth?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s already happening, isn’t it, because of Covid? I mean a lot of the all the good cops left during Covid and now they’re bringing in foreigners as police. And they’re not just like immigrants, they’re literally recruiting from foreign countries.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We’re going to have a significant physical advantage over the police force if it ends up being completely Indian, for example. And so it’s like that’ll be interesting times, that’ll be sporty times.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, I would definitely like a situation where NSN’s on the streets and we swell up. We’ve got like some better than like bigger numbers and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We’re the police now!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> These cops show up and it’s on. That’d be a funny interaction, if and when it happens. What a juxtaposition.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’ll make more people support us. More White Australian support us. When they see that it’s Indian cops versus the White lads that have to be mask off and maybe have to carry Australian flags and all the other sort of optics cuckery we’re forced into by the State, I think that’s just going to Garner more and more public support. So in a strange kind of accelerationist or anti-accelerationist way, the government is strengthening our position in the eyes of the public. They’re doing all these things in hopes that we give up, but we’re actually not going to give up. We’ve picked this strategy because it’s the most effective at creating that juxtapositional, that shock and awe strategy to wake the public up into action. And over time we’re going to become more and more legitimate. But it’s very hard to create legitimacy when no one puts up any opposition. And if they do put up opposition, it’s so tame that it doesn’t even get any attention.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[39:01]</span></p>
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<p>So you have to get the people’s attention first. I’m not saying you get attention and then you start mellowing out your message. You maintain a strong message and everyone knows what you’re about. And most people have a decent memory. Even if they get confused by the current thing every two weeks, they still have a decent memory as to:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, those are the racists!”</span></h3>
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<p>And we’re normalizing racism, we’re normalizing White nationalism and White people are overall getting to the point where they’re just upset with how the state of the country is.</p>
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<p>And then they’re about to have Christmas and they want to just relax and wind down and celebrate. And it’s a spiritual and it’s a cultural time of year for White people and they turn on the news and it’s just jews complaining that there’s not enough laws against people that hate them.</p>
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<p>And as a White person, you’re watching that and you’re just like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“When are these jews going to shut up? Are they ever going to be happy?”</span></h3>
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<p>And then you hear that more money is going to them and we’re in a cost of living crisis. And if you’ve been paying attention, you know that they already get hundreds of millions of dollars a year for their so-called “<em>security</em>”, which they funnel into their fake security companies that they launder money back into the synagogue and probably do all sorts of dubious things with it once they’ve got it there.</p>
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<p>And on top of that it goes into CSG <span style="color: #008000;">[Community Security Group]</span> here in Victoria, which is a Mossad front group which is funded by the Australian taxpayer and the Victorian taxpayer. So on top of that, the way that the politicians are handling it is the worst possible way to handle it. I guess they’re just not equipped with any sort of nuance. But I personally am sick, and I say this almost every stream with you guys when you put a politician up like the video up. And my initial instinct or reaction was I feel like I’m in primary school! Like listening to this Jacinta Allan:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We do not do anti-semitism!”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Blair putting in some eye drops]</span> What’s going on there? Clear us. You’re right, Blair? We’re back.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yes. My eyes get a bit dry. But while I’m interjecting, don’t you agree though that it’s like the jewish version of rioting. I said this to Joel the other day. The jewish response to the synagogue fire is like the jewish version of a riot. It’s not physical. It’s like complaining:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Give us money, give us rights, give us more laws!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Because they’re a feminine race, passive aggressive response.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If the government could learn, see the way the Assyrians reacted to a terror attack against Bishop Murray, the Christian Assyrians they physically rioted. And the government’s response to that was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No tolerance!”</span></h3>
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<p>They arrested the Christians and made a strong effort to demonstrate themselves, you know, controlling the situation, containing the situation:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This riot’s not acceptable!”</span></h3>
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<p>Why doesn’t the government take the same position towards the jewish version of rioting, which is just, as I said, kvetching.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Because they’re all just a bunch of primary school teachers. These politicians aren’t leaders, they’re just primary school teachers. And they just lecture the public the way a primary school teacher lectures a small child. Like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We do not do anti-semitism, we do not do anti-semitism!”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, who are they talking to?</p>
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<p>And then the other thing that I noticed was the it’s a little bit of a will to power, to be honest, to give them a bit of fairness. Not that they deserve it, but they haven’t passed these laws yet. But they always speak as if they’ve already passed them or that they’re going to pass.</p>
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<p>So they’re saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, that’s technically not correct. Not to sound like a conservative, but you’re going to “<em>try to change the law</em>”. That’s what they’re planning on doing. You’re going to try. What the accurate statement would be is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to try to change the law to strengthen these religious vilification laws.”</span></h3>
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<p>But they didn’t say that, they said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to change the law.”</span></h3>
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<p>So although it’s got a bit of a will to power and there’s a bit of strength to that, it’s the only strength they really portray is when jews are under attack. All of a sudden the government are very strong. But the problem is that that might work on some people, but the average Joe wants to at least pretend that we live in a democracy. And when that is no longer the tone at which they’re being spoken to by their leaders, they’re not going to be looking for Democratic or liberal means to counter the way that the centre Left is speaking to them. They’re going to be looking for a slightly more authoritarian tone amongst the centre Right, which I guess goes into our next point, doesn’t it Joel?</p>
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<p>The self implosion of One Nation. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Where the centre is going now is in two places. You know, the Left are just doubling down and the Right doesn’t know what to do and doesn’t have any representation within The Liberal Party or Labor Party or One Nation for that matter. And they’re absolutely begging now for a semi-authoritarian centre Right, that has that same kind of tone. Because there has to be a balancing. There has to be this harmony, for politics to survive as a democracy, there has to be equal weights on either side of the centre. And otherwise it keeps tipping one way until the Left take total state power and just tell you what’s going on. They don’t even consult.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[44:33]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But we talked about on the show last.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Do you want to move on to the next subject or was there more?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I’ll bring it in. But I’m just going to reiterate what we were talking about last week. I don’t know if I use the term “<em>Bitchocracy</em>”. It’s like, whoever bitches the hardest rules. But I use the term like that. And I was describing how like Anthony Albanese, when he gave your statements last week, he was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jews need to feel safe!”</span></h3>
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<p>And I was like, politicians didn’t used to talk like this, even back in the 2000s, where they talk about “<em>feelings</em>” like it’s a total like, feminisation of the language. Like you said, when you use the analogy of the primary school, that’s basically the level that public discourse is at now.</p>
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<p>But it’s obviously very effective because when you move the discussion into feelings, then you don’t actually need to like, back it up with any kind of fairness or facts or whatever. It’s just like, I think I made the analogy on Twitter. Like, our relationship with the jews is like a shitty marriage where nothing you do is ever good enough and nothing they do you can never like, bring up. Otherwise you’re mean and you’re making them feel horrible and so on and so that’s what the jews want. They want to classify all criticism of their behaviour as “<em>anti-semitism</em>”. No criticism of jewish behaviour is tolerated, full stop, end of discussion!</p>
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<p>But at the same time, they want to then dictate policy. They want to basically run society. How can you be in charge but then at the same time also demand zero criticism? And then play the victim, like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, like, I can’t believe you would say that. That’s just like another ‘Holocaust’!”</span></h3>
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<p>You know, it’s ridiculous! But that’s literally the situation that we’re in, and that’s fundamentally unstable. Like, yeah, they’re trying to brute force it, but ultimately you need to rule with carrots and sticks.</p>
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<p>And at the moment it’s all stick and no carrot. And jews don’t know how to rule. Just it’s like having a single mom. Single moms don’t know how to raise young boys because they don’t understand how to, they don’t have that innate ability basically to know when to basically go hard and when to go soft. If you are just constantly, when you’re raising a child, I mean, I’m not a father, but this is obviously true. If you’re just constantly super strict and just like being like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t do this, don’t do that!”</span></h3>
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<p>And constantly like bitching and moaning and everything that they do, they’re not going to take any of it that seriously because it’s no matter what they do, you’re just reacting in the same way. And it’s really more, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Dogs are the same. If you keep giving dogs incessant stupid commands, they stop listening to anything.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Frivolous. They don’t take you seriously.</p>
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<p>If you want to instil fear in a population, you wait until you’re very upset about something. You have your red lines and then you get really angry! But otherwise you’re chill. And that’s how you, that’s how people respect your rules. Because they know, like, okay, those are the red lines, they’re very clear.</p>
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<p>But this is the complete opposite. In our society today, all the lines are ambiguous. All these new laws that they’re bringing in, they have all these ambiguous definitions. There’s all these double standards and triple standards based upon feelings:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, if this group does it, it makes this group of people feel upset and they’re victims for this reason. And so we have to care about this, but when the roles are reversed or like, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s just retarded! So there’s no legitimacy or coherence to any of this. All they’re going to do is push people into more sympathy to our position when we call it out.</p>
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<p>But I will say:</p>
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<p>Secondarily, the main reason why the Left is winning and the conservatives are losing in general., &#8230; The jewish issue is different. On the jewish issue, the conservatives are even deeper up the arsehole of the jews than the Left, frankly. The jews completely just own the conservative movement. It’s grotesque! But on every other issue, on these issues of free speech and political correctness and wokeness and anti-White double standards and so on the conservative attitude is always, &#8230; Because in politics you got a Left-wing position, a Right-wing position, and everything that happens is centrism. You never get what the far-Left and the far-Right want, never actually happens. Within a democracy, everything that happens is always, is always basically at the centre, in perpetuity.</p>
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<p>Now what Left-wingers do is they run away from the centre towards the most radical Left-wing position they can possibly go for. And what that does is it then stretches the Overton Window and then the centre then shifts towards the Left. What Right-wingers do is go, hey, or conservatives, I should say is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, hey, the centre always wins. So let’s go and jump in the centre and occupy the centre and be like, we’re the reasonable people in the centre. We’re not like these fringe lunatics. And then we’ll win because the centre always wins.”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[49:42]</span></p>
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<p>But what they do by jumping in the centre is they then push the centre away from them, in between them and wherever the Left is. And so when you chase the centre, you’re constantly chasing the centre and you’ll never grab it because you’re constantly pushing it away from yourself while you chase after it. You have to run away from the centre to drag it in your direction. That’s the basic mechanics of a liberal democracy.</p>
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<p>And this is why they always lose. Even if they win, conservatives win most elections. Like Liberal Party was just in power for like a decade. There was a brief period where you had like Rudd and Gillard for a few years. Then you had Howard in charge for ages. If you go through Australian history, the conservatives pretty much are always in power. The Left barely gets power. But when the Left gets power, they completely change the entire country, initiate all these new reforms, and then the next conservatives are getting in, basically have the same policies and just like entrench them.</p>
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<p>So even though the Right wins elections, the Left always wins on the issues, all the big issues. Unless it’s the jews. Then when it comes to the jews, then that goes out the window. Right?</p>
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<p>But I want to bring the reason why I articulate that because I want to bring up this story. So we talked about Parminder Singh on the show last week, who is a Sikh guy who can’t speak English properly. Yeah, he speaks with this broken English. And he’s being run for the Upper House in the upcoming Western Australian election by One Nation. And a Twitter account popped up a few days ago just after I wrote my opinion piece in The Noticer, which by the way, go check it out. It’s called One Nation Goes Full Retard. <span style="color: #008000;">[<a href="https://www.noticer.news/one-nation-goes-full-retard/">https://www.noticer.news/one-nation-goes-full-retard/</a>]</span> I articulated basically the state of things with the Parminder Singh issue earlier in the week, but now all this new stuff has come to light.</p>
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<p>So this page dropped called Parminder Singh One Nation Exposed. This guy says he’s a disgruntled former One Nation candidate and member with direct information over the coming days on Rod Caddies, who is the leader of One Nation in Western Australia and Parminder Singh.</p>
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<p>Now, what he exposed was this. Well, one of the things he exposed. So Parminder Singh has a company called Punjabi Properties, and you can see on the back of these shirts, which are official One Nation merchandise. Punjabi Properties is displayed all across the back of these shirts. So, like what? One Nation is now sponsored by Punjabi Properties? This is all happening while Pauline Hanson is posting about how we’ve got to end foreign ownership and immigration is too high and all this kind of stuff. Yes, he’s posting here about how Rod Caddies is blocking everyone. He blocked me. He’s blocking all of everyone who’s asking questions. He’s not going to take accountability for his actions.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Who is Rod Caddies?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The guy who runs One Nation in Western Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> He put up a video. I think maybe he put up the video actually, after we did it on the show last week. I’ll pull up that video soon. And in that video, he basically wheeled this Parminder guy out to explain that he agreed. No, he agrees with all of Pauline Hanson’s policies, even though we’ve got him on record saying the exact opposite, even as like earlier this year on his Facebook account.</p>
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<p>And also he ran for office. When he ran for office in local government, I believe Canberra, which level of government it was. When he ran without the One Nation endorsement, one of his policies was “<em>repopulating rural areas with immigrants</em>”. His policy was to bring immigrants into country towns to help build up their population. That doesn’t sound like anti-immigration to me. It sounds like the exact opposite. And he actually reiterated that statement on his Facebook account in his customary tortured, broken English with terrible grammar. It barely makes sense, but you could at least get that’s what he was saying. He also defended the student visa thing, saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, if we don’t bring students in on student visas, how are universities going to make money?”</span></h3>
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<p>And when he was talking to What’s News on a video that we watched in the show last week on a phone interview, he was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, Indian immigrants are good because they bring money into Australia.”</span></h3>
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<p>And he even made the point that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, White Australians they don’t want to work hard enough. They don’t want to work on weekends, they don’t want to work 80 to 100 hour weeks. They expect to be paid over $30 an hour.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is why they, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Need to give this perspective. He actually did say that? He said he thinks Australians are lazy because they won’t work 100 hours a week. 100 hours a week is over 14 hours per day, every day of the week. That’s the idea of a normal working week for this dude who’s running now Western Australia, in One Nation as a candidate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[54:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> This is like the slave mentality of Indians. This is why the globalists, the big business, the jews, that’s why they want to bring Indians into, or one of the reasons why they want to bring them in. I mean, for some groups like far-Left and the jews, they just want to replace us out of like racial animus towards the White race. But from a business standpoint, one of the reasons they want to bring it in, and from a political standpoint is because they’re a slave race.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, every time I’ve had a conversation, unfortunately in my life, when I’ve been subjected to Indians through my employment, whenever I’ve had the misfortune of having to make small talk with them, all they talk about is how to make money and how to spend money. That’s literally the substance of everything that they want to talk about every single time! They have purely economic mindset, like, of a slave. They don’t have like a sense of freedom, a sense of like higher spirituality or any of these things that White people have. A sense of high dignity or honour or any of these things. And so that makes them easier to rule.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s why we could show up to India during the British Empire with, 200,000 Anglos and run their whole continent of like hundreds of millions of slave browns. And we did it for hundreds of years and it was easy, because they’re a pathetic race. And this is why they want to bring them in because they’ll accept shitty conditions and they’ll work long hours and they’ll work three different jobs because all they care about is money and the quality of life in India sucks! It’s still better than back home and this is great for big business, but it’s depressing your wages and destroying your quality of life. And that’s the whole point of voting One Nation right? They’re the one party that’s going to shut down the borders and stop this shit! But now they’re running this guy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s exactly why the financial sector lobbies the major parties to bring in as many Indians as possible because they’ll live in little Jeet boxes, as Joel calls them. They’ll work for less and they’ll work longer hours. And all big business cares about is people working more for less.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously the quality of the goods being produced isn’t going to be as good, but they don’t care about that. People are going to still have to buy it if they’re the only ones offering it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, it is all just about replacing the Australian working class with a more manageable slave race. I’ve been saying that for years, actually. What do you think Tom? Do you think they have souls? Do you think Indians have souls?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We’re going deep here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I do. But I believe that souls aren’t really a binary. I believe that they’re a spectrum. So I believe dogs have souls. So of course Indians would have them as well, but they’re just not very large, they’re not very high. Yeah, they’ve got a very mediocre soul. There would be maybe one in a million that would have a very high soul, like a high Aryan soul. White people have huge potential in their soul, but they don’t use it. White people are like the stereotype of the talented person that never uses what they have. White people don’t, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’re just capable of so much, &#8230; Has Tom cut out or have I cut out?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, Tom’s frozen up for me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, he’ll be back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> His connection was a little bit dodgy before. Hopefully he gets it sorted. While we’re waiting for him to figure that out. Oh, you’re back Tom?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I like hearing these takes, though. I like hearing these deep esoterics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> He still seems kind of frozen up there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. Am I back? Can you hear me?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You’re back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re in the first world country of Australia. I pay the top rate for the Internet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Apparently the NBN maintenance crew is Indian now as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I think One Nation has been taking tips or the NBN have been taking tips from One Nation on their hiring policies. You know, they got the $25 an hour Jeets doing maintenance.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Infrastructure will fall apart in our lifetime. I guarantee everyone that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I have friends in South Africa and they tell me that you may as well live rurally as long as you’re protected. Because in the cities there’s just constant blackouts. There’s just constant infrastructure issues. Yeah. With what Elon Musk is doing with the Starlink, it doesn’t matter whether you’re rural or in the city anymore.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the infrastructure is garbage! I can’t believe how much the Internet drops out. But back on topic, prior to your question about whether Indians have souls or not, just the blatant, it’s like some strange form of corruption I’ve never personally seen., &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He’s gone again. That’s really frustrating. He was going to say something good. He was about to say, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> He was cucking. Yeah. It’s annoying.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> This is a pain in the ass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Be back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> What an absolute pain in the ass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I’m gonna drop off. I’ll just make my last point. But the Internet is just intolerable and you guys are all blurry for me. I thought it was your Internet’s playing up. And I was like, sweet, my Internet’s fine. And then I clicked on the stream. I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, it’s actually me!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m gonna blame ZOG.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s just excellent! It’s excellent to see that One Nation. This won’t be forgiven. Especially in WA <span style="color: #008000;">[West Australia].<span style="color: #333333;"> It might be forgiven in the rest of the country because Noticer News is not Sky News yet, but one day it will be.</span></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But in WA, this is not going to be forgiven. And it’s good to see that it even led to or impacted or pressured the one sitting MP or Senator to actually drop off. I don’t know if that’s been covered on the stream yet, but I saw that recently as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:00:26]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, I was gonna bring that up Yeah. Is he gone again?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Seems that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The elusive Sewell. Yeah, I think ZOG have taken him out. You’ve taken out our boy. We’re gonna have to ride this one, the two of us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We have to keep marching forward, guys! We have to keep going. There’s going to be casualties.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, yeah, we’ve got to keep moving forward.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m going to go through. I’m going to like unpack all the details to fill everybody in on some of the updates to the Parmindergate, if you will, and then we’ll do some analysis.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this flyer came out. So there was a video which I will pull up in a second. And in the video Parminder Singh was Rod Caddie’s, the guy who runs One Nation WA, he got Parminder Singh on and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s a lot of people online that are spreading all this misinformation saying that Parminder Singh is pro-immigration. And I’ve got him here to say that no, he’s not got those views.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And basically Parminder Singh just more or less said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I read all the One Nation policies on Pauline Hanson’s website and I agree with the policies.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He didn’t actually like articulate anything specific about him agreeing with those policies or why he agrees with those policies, which kind of gives itself to the accusation that he’s a grifter, basically. That he’s identified One Nation as the biggest party that is stupid enough to give him the nomination.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because if he tried to rock up to the Liberals or whatever and throw around his curry shop money, it wouldn’t go very far. The Liberals are getting that big like jew money coming in from the property developer jews and the banks and all the rest of it. So they wouldn’t be interested. He doesn’t have that kind of high roller money.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If he went to the Labor Party. Well, the Labor Party they would run Indians, but they’ll run Indians that can speak English properly, that have been to university. They’re actually a serious professional political outfit to a degree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I don’t know how big the Greens are at WA but again, they’re going to run people that actually are ideologically competent. This guy can barely string three sentences together that make any sense. Like he has like a really superficial understanding. He’s probably got like an 80, 80 to 85 IQ. Like he’s not smart, he’s not well educated, he’s not a good speaker. And so anyway, the next option then is One Nation. That’s the fourth biggest party. And he’s obviously bought his way in. There’s a it’s alleged that he made a twenty thousand dollar donation which sounds like nothing. If that’s all it costs to buy your way into One Nation maybe we should try and like do a GoFundMe to like buy the nomination for Blair or something! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Because we could crowdfund that from you guys in like two days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, they wouldn’t take it. They’re too concerned about optics to take me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, they’re too concerned about optics to take you. A well spoken White Australian that people actually like that’s actually a nationalist, but they will take some fat hairy Sikh that can barely speak English correctly and can barely articulate what policies he supports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, he put out this document here. It says down the bottom authorized by Parminder Singh.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38221" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216-1024x490.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="306" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216-1024x490.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216-600x287.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216-768x368.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216-1536x735.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Pauline-Hanson-One-Nation-immigration-policy-20241216.jpg 1830w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is put out on behalf of One Nation from his office and it says here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We want One Nation not a divided nation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the key beliefs:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Key belief one, support for immigrants.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, immigrants are great basically:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Key belief two, balanced immigration. One Nation is not anti-immigration but we recognise allowing too many people in too quickly constrained services.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a really big watering down of One Nation’s policies from:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Immigration is causing a housing crisis. We need to cut it down to Net Zero.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like when Pauline first got elected to Parliament she gave a speech saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re in danger of getting flooded by Asians. We’re losing our culture.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now look at One Nation. They’re being cucked by some curry shop owner. Apparently as well, it says here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All the One Nation WA merchandise at events had a logo on the back that said Punjabi Properties. The logo is bigger than the One Nation logo. Ask anyone who attended the event in Mandurah November 9th. And the food at the event was curry supplied by Parminder Singh’s curry company or restaurant.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38219" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers-1024x590.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="369" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers-1024x590.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers-600x345.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers-768x442.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers-1536x884.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/One-Nation-Rally-WA-White-Boomers.jpg 1650w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you go down to the One Nation rally. Look at all these White Boomers. They’re going down to the One Nation rally because you know there’s too many immigrants coming into this country and they want something done about it. And they get given their One Nation shirt with Punjabi Properties on the back and served curry!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> bad!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And then some fat Sikh gets up there and speaks in broken English and doesn’t even understand the policies of the party that he’s joined. That’s the state of One Nation! That’s the state of One Nation. I mean like it’s bad!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Sad!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38220" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-1024x456.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="285" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-1024x456.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-600x267.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-768x342.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-1536x684.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Parminder-Singh-One-Nation-Exposed-WA-2048x912.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> This is levels of cuckservatism previously not thought possible. I mean it’s not even competent cuckservatism. It’s just embarrassing. What I said on my opinion piece was its actually more respectable if they were paid off to run this guy. It was purely a financial decision. If they thought this was a good idea on any metric, that’s actually more embarrassing than just being like shills. In my opinion, that’s how bad this guy is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:06:03]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, I was just going to ask you a question. Do you think they’re foreseeing an increase in the Indian population and they want a piece of that they can see that a lot of that’s going to go towards either Liberal or Labor and the strategy is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need a piece of the Indian voting bloc that’s going to be set up in Australia.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Already is being set up in Australia by the other parties. Has it got something to do with that. What do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It can’t be for the Indian voting block. They’re not that significant of a voting block. And the reality is, I mean we’ve done, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know man, there’s a lot of Indians in India. How many Indians are in India?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But I’m talking about here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but they’re going to keep coming in. There’s going to be hundreds of thousands every few months. It’s going to end up being millions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> One Nation’s supposed to be stopping them from coming in. Isn’t that the whole, …!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’re not! They must be thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well they’re going to come anyway, we might capitalise on it anyway.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The majority of Indians, &#8230; They have done the studies. They vote Labor and then Labor are going and making deals saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to bring in shitloads of Indians and we love Indians!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then Liberals come out and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We love Indians just as much as Labor, actually!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re going and making deals with the Indians and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So why is One Nation? Is it really think that it’s going to convince the Indian community:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, we’re the anti-immigration party that everyone calls racist and everyone in the party, everyone who votes for us are all like one White bogans.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever according to the common, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Just trying to make sense of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Vote for us instead! Like we’ve done the studies, we’ve gone through them on the show. Like the majority of Australians want immigration cut. They want immigration lowered, and they don’t have anyone to vote for basically except One Nation to do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So One Nation, if they sell themselves as the anti-immigration party. Well yeah, okay, Indians are coming in but over fucking 70% of voters are White! So selling “<em>keep the Indians out to White voters</em>” and WA has got a higher than 70% White ratio. I think it’s like almost 80% White. So trying to sell an anti-immigration message to White voters, people that actually vote for you, do you think that should be the priority? Not trying to market yourself to the 4% of the population that’s Indian that’s already voting for your political enemies that don’t like your policies anyway. That’s just fucking retarded politics! Like, it’s insane!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what I was saying before about like conservatives running to the centre to try and occupy the centre, but the centre escapes them. Like One Nation’s job is to run away from the centre and to stretch the discourse out, force the Liberals to justify themselves. Like the Liberals right now, the majority of Liberal voters want immigration cut, but the Liberals are avoiding the issue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One Nation, if they did a proper anti-immigration campaign and sold themselves the true Right-wing party that’s going to shut down the borders, they’d get shitloads of votes that’d be very popular. But no, they want to try and prove how not racist they are by running some fat Indian. And he was the guy, by the way, we talked about on the show when Pauline went to the Sikh temple over in Perth. It was this guy’s Sikh temple. He organised all that. Pauline in that head scarf, turban thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He must have given him more than 20 grand. It must have been more than 20 grand! He must have given him something else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I hope so, because it’s embarrassing, man! It’s embarrassing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It seems like he’s bought out the whole party. That’s what it seems like.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. In WA at least. And people were saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, it’s not Pauline’s fault because it’s the WA wing of the party and they don’t control it.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s like that’s bullshit! She controls it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s her party. She’s ultimately in charge of everything that happens. She should just pull the pin on him. She should just pull the pin on him and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Get rid of this guy. What’s he talking shit for about wanting more Indians? We’re against that. People are voting for us because we’re against that. Get rid of this guy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why can’t you do that, Pauline? That’s what everyone’s waiting for.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The party’s literally called Pauline Hanson’s One Nation. Like her name’s in the name of the party. Like, you know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, I’ll pull this video up for everyone’s viewing benefit. This is what I was describing before. This is that Rod Caddies joke who runs WA One Nation. A lot of nationalists have spoken to me privately, by the way, who were involved in Western Australian One Nation and they hate this guy. Like, this guy and others involved have been advocating for moderating and cucking for years. And alienating a lot of the true nationalists in the party over there. Cucking to the Aboriginals, now cucking to the jeets. I mean it’s embarrassing! But anyway, I’ll play this for everyone’s benefit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38222" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh-1024x689.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="431" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh-1024x689.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh-600x404.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh-768x517.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Rod-Caddies-One-Nation-WA-Singh.jpg 1228w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Rod Caddies:</strong> Hey guys, just wanted to jump on here and have a chat with Parminder. I mean there’s been a few things put around on social media lately about immigration and how Parminder wants to flood our country with Indians and I know for a fact that’s not true, but I wanted to show you guys and let you have a listen to Parminder for himself and where he stands with One Nation and immigration.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Parminder:</strong> So hi everyone. Before I joined the One Nation party, I read the all policies, whatever the Pauline stand for and I fully support the Net Zero the immigration policy. And if some people lucky enough to come here, I request all those people that respect the Australian culture, Australian values and Australian constitution. And the English is my third language. So and I try to make a videos, that’s why it’s a little bit like I think in my own language first, then I speak in English. So that’s why it’s bit slow. So I [word unclear] One Nation policies.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Rod Caddies:</strong> So there you have it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:11:50]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Wow! I mean he just said something I’ve always said and it’s something. Hang on one minute, I’ve got music playing and I shouldn’t have music playing, stupid. I’ve always said that you’ve got to be careful when dealing with foreign people because even though they may learn your language and churn out sentences in some form of your language, they’re thinking in their own language and they have words and phrases for things that we don’t even conceptualise often, especially if they come from a more mercantile, ruthless kind of society and culture. So he just basically admitted that in that video. He’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m thinking in my own language but then I’m speaking in yours. So what I’m actually thinking, who knows? You’ve just got to trust me guys!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> pretty heavy stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The excuse that he used is that he’s incapable of articulating his true beliefs correctly because he can’t speak English properly. How does that qualify you to be a politician in Australia if you’re incapable of articulating yourself correctly in the language that Australians speak? That’s immediately disqualifying, immediately! Like it’s ridiculous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But secondarily what he said there, like the grammar’s horrible, like “<em>I supported the Pauline</em>” and so on, like it’s embarrassing! But as he was describing, he’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I fully support the policies of One Nation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now we’ve got all of these statements that he’s made that are contrary to those policies on immigration. So he’s changed his mind. Doesn’t he owe us an explanation for why he changed his mind? Because he’s acting like, as if, it’s not like he’s always had these views. He’s just signed up to this party that has different policies than what he’s advocated before in his public statements and his previous attempts at being an independent politician. So you would owe us an explanation for why you changed your mind and why we can trust you now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But instead, what this was just like, wheel him out, say he agrees, tell everyone to shut up, gaslight everyone, and then just block everyone on Twitter that’s saying the opposite. I mean, absolute PR disaster for One Nation! Good work to all the boys putting pressure on. I tried to do my bit to force this kind of reaction. And then what we saw today, and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Absolutely! And that video, let me interject quickly, is a direct response to the pressure you guys have been putting on these people. So it goes to show how influential we are as a community. They have to play ball with us because we are the people who vote for One Nation. We used to be anyway, people watching this video, that was supposed to be the Nationalist Party. So good effort for everyone or good effort by everyone putting the pressure on as a result of this stupid decision.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I see a Superchat from Ukrainian groiper saying, “<em>Naan Nation</em>”*. That’s pretty funny.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Naan (Asian flatbread) Naan is a leavened, oven-baked or tawa-fried flatbread, that can also be baked in a tandoor. It is characterised by a light and fluffy texture and golden-brown spots from the baking process. Naan is found in the cuisines of Iran, Central Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Caribbean. Composed of White or wheat flour and combined with a leavening agent, typically yeast, naan dough develops air pockets that contribute to its fluffy and soft texture.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, so this is the article in The Noticer just dropped just before we went live:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Western Australia’s only One Nation MP suddenly quits the party.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is Ben Dawkins. He presumably joined the One Nation party to keep the likes of Parminder out of the country. Like that’s the whole point of One Nation. It’s an anti-immigration party.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38223" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins-1004x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="653" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins-1004x1024.jpg 1004w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins-600x612.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins-768x783.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/WAs-only-One-Nation-MP-suddenly-quits-the-party-Ben-Dawkins.jpg 1494w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.noticer.news/ben-Dawkins-quits-one-nation-western-Australia/">https://www.noticer.news/ben-Dawkins-quits-one-nation-western-Australia/</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s been a member for the southwest region since March 2023 and is according to The Noticer, pro-freedom and anti-woke. He formally tended his resignation from Pauline Hanson’s party on Tuesday, saying on Thursday that he made the decision ‘reluctantly’. His resignation comes amid controversy over One Nation selection of Sikh businessman Parminder Singh as the third Upper House candidate in Western Australia due to his support for mass immigration from India.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is like the original video. By the way. Go check out this article on the Noticer dot News. It’s the number one article at the moment because he just got put out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you can watch this video by What’s News here where he interviews Parminder Singh on the phone and you can hear for yourself of what he said. The quotes here from Mr. Dawkins:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I hold Pauline Hanson in high regard as a courageous advocate for everyday Australians. Indeed, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation should be the party with the guts to say what you’re thinking. As an independent candidate, I will continue to have the courage to speak for those who feel unheard.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Blah, blah, blah. Who’s obviously amicably leaving the party. But the fact that he’s decided to quit right now, I mean, what other reason could it possibly be? Surely he’s quitting because of this. Surely this is the final straw. What do you think Blair?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All we can do is speculate about that. I’m sure I don’t know the man, I can’t speak to his motivations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:16:26]</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Someone says here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Joel, with all due respect, this is like saying that a dog owes us an explanation for chewing issues. He’s a fresh off the boat jeet. There isn’t any explanation. He couldn’t articulate one in English regardless.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, yeah, I mean, what I was articulating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We don’t care about his explanation. We want an explanation from Pauline Hanson. What’s going on with the party?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’re supposed to represent the Australian people. That’s what we’re waiting for.</p>
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</div>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, like how are you going to keep immigrants out of Australia if you can’t even keep them out of your own party? I mean, it’s pretty basic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But keep the pressure up, all of you on Twitter. Every time Pauline Hanson tweets, Malcolm Roberts tweets, any of these other One Nation accounts from anywhere in the country, get in the replies, post the links to all this stuff, keep the pressure up, keep asking the question and just keep making it a nuisance for them because they need to, as you said, they owe us an explanation. We are nationalism in this country. You need to explain yourself to us!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I saw some rumours coming out that the Libertarian Party’s immigration platform is not going to be too crash hot. Then I asked some people that I knew in those circles and they said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, actually it’s going to be better than he says.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever. I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You guys have to get your immigration policy together and you need to come out and you need to explain to us nationalists why it’s better than One Nation’s.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, we’re going to do that.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll see if they cuck or don’t cuck. We’ll cover it live. We’ll break it down. Will they end up bringing out a policy better than one nations? I don’t know. I’m sceptical. They’ve got elements in the party that seem not to care as much about immigration as an issue as others. We will see who wins out. We’ll see when the formal policy comes, comes forward.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know, One Nation’s in danger here. If the Libertarians put out a good immigration policy that’s better than theirs, they’re going to steal their votes off them and deservedly. So and if the Libertarians don’t put out a good immigration policy, I’m not going to advocate for voting for One Nation while they’re running these jeets. There’s no fucking way, there’s no fucking way! I’m going to be telling all of our audience to not vote. If our vote has to be earned. And at the moment, none of these Jokers are earning it. Like, none of them are taking this issue, even like a quarter of percent seriously compared to what they should be taking it. This is an existential issue. Our nation is being destroyed. And it’s also the number one issue destroying the average Australian’s quality of life. The housing crisis, wage stagnation, et cetera. Immigration is being rammed down the throat of this country by big business interests, big corporate interests, big finance interests, so that they can keep making ridiculous profits while in an economy that’s faltering. We’ve been in a per capita recession every quarter for the last, you know, two years basically. Australia’s fucking! Everything is getting worse on every level and immigration is the reason why.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the average Joe on the street definitely wants the border shut down, definitely wants something done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What about those people who are saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, it’s not immigration, it’s landlords putting up property prices. It’s capitalism, it’s greedy capitalists, that’s what’s destroying Australia!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How do you respond to that? It’s not immigrants, it’s capitalists!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, the way that I would respond to that is simple.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Number one, these big capitalist lobby groups, like the property developer lobby, the finance lobby, the big corporate industry lobbies, they ask the government, they fund the political campaigns of the major parties and they demand higher immigration. Their public representatives that they pay to come and advocate for their interests want more immigration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when they say it’s not immigration, it’s the capitalists, it’s like, well the big capitalists are the ones that are deciding that they want the immigration. So you can’t actually divide the two things from one another. This is ridiculous! Like the capitalists are telling us immigration is good for them, so it must be good for them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you have a Marxist worldview where you believe that the capitalists make profits under the exploitation of the working class, well everything the capitalists do driven by that profit motive must be to exploit the working class, including the fact that they’re pumping all this money into politics to keep immigration high, against the public will. Because it’s not the Democratic will. We’ve seen the polls, we’ve gone through them on the show every time they do one, every time they do a poll on immigration is wildly unpopular. So liberal and Labor don’t have the immigration policies they do because of what their voters want. They have it because it’s what their donors want. And their donors are the big capitalists. So it’s just a complete non-starter of an argument.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Would it be fair to say that shutting down discussion on immigration on the grounds that it’s “<em>racist</em>” is protecting the profits of the capitalists?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Absolutely! 100%! It’s not even in question.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That really throws a spanner in the works, doesn’t it? I wonder what came first, the chicken or the egg? Did the capitalists dream up this whole anti-racist movement and use it to usher in this new slave class that’s going to live in smaller spaces, work long hours and for less, like for lower wages? Or have they just kind of adjusted themselves to that culture that already established itself as a result of subversion? I would lean towards the second scenario.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:22:10]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think it almost doesn’t really matter! What matters from our standpoint is going to Leftists and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You claim to be against capitalism, yet the social values that you put forward are the social values of the big capitalists.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The big capitalists are fine with gay marriage and they support transgenderism and they support mass immigration and all the rest of it. They support political correctness, they support wokeness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if they support all of those things, clearly all of those things are compatible with capitalism. Clearly all of those things are beneficial to capitalist power. Otherwise why would they support them? And we can actually explain why they benefit from capitalist power. Because what those things do is they destroy the fabric of the nation, they destroy national loyalty, they destroy patriotism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s why Leftists attacked them. Because Leftists decided after World War II that, well, probably earlier, but they particularly decided this after World War II, that nationalism was their main enemy. Nationalism, National Socialism, fascism, that whole suite of ideas, that’s their main enemy. And that was more important, fighting that was more important to them than advocating for the working class.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, a lot of Leftist theorists said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, the White working class betrayed us because they supported National Socialism and fascism. So fuck the White working class! We’re going to replace them with a brown and black working class and a gay working class and so on, that will support communism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they made the decision that destroying nationalism was more important than destroying capitalism. And capitalists then looked at the world and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know what? The biggest threat to us actually isn’t communism, its nationalism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you can see that in World War II. Because in World War II the Liberal capitalist West allied with the Soviet Union to destroy National Socialist Germany. So clearly they made a decision then that they were more threatened by National Socialism than Communism, otherwise they wouldn’t have allied with one against the other. That’s just a brute fact of history that communists and Leftists cannot argue away. That’s reality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Capitalism and Communism are both jewish systems so their co-operation, both overtly or covertly, is natural-K]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then they then set upon systematically funding and supporting the destruction of nationalism and anything approximating nationalism in every Western country under their control.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So why would capitalists want to do this? Well, nationalism is the greatest threat to an international market system because nationalists, when they come to power and they take over the government, they go and look at what’s happening in international markets and they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, hey, wait a second, this capitalist over here is making a profit at the expense of my nation. He’s taken jobs to other countries, he’s importing goods from other countries and he’s doing all of these things that are good for him to make extra profits, but they’re actually bad for the strength of my nation. And so I’m going to start creating all these laws that protect local industries, keep wealth and resources in my country to build up the national strength, make sure there’s good jobs for my people.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But international finance, they didn’t want to do that because at the end of the post-war globalisation that we’ve had, they wanted to go and exploit the cheap slave labour in China and other foreign third world countries and then import all that cheap crap into the West and sell it to us. And they took away all the manufacturing jobs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like back in the 1960s or the 1970s, over 30% of Australia’s economy was manufacturing. We used to make cars, we used to make computers, we used to make everything here. Now it’s only 6% of the economy, we make nothing here. And that’s one of the reasons why people are doing it tough. Because there isn’t good quality jobs for the working class anymore, because they sent all those jobs to foreign countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the people that would stop that are nationalists, which is why they attack the White Australia Policy, which is why they attack nationalism, which is why they attack your identity. Because they don’t want White Australians supporting a political leader that’s loyal to them before he’s loyal to big business. All the biggest companies in this country, the top 20 countries, sorry, the top 20 companies in Australia are majority foreign owned. It’s all Wall Street, jewish banking firms and shit that own all of our shit! Like all of our shit has been sold to all these like foreign interests. Our country has been completely sold off. All the jobs have been shipped offshore. We had so much wealth in this country. We were one of the wealthiest countries per capita in the entire world. So much has been shipped overseas to the benefit of large corporate interests at your expense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you had leaders that were nationalists like they used to be before World War II in Australia, who put White Australian people first, they wouldn’t have let that happen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s why they had to destroy that ideology to facilitate this. That’s what international finance wanted and that’s why the world that is run by international finance, these big capitalists, attack people like us and our ideas hard rather than the Left. They fear them less than us because we are the true enemy. And the Left is complicit. The Left attacks us harder than it attacks them even though they have the power and we don’t. So their entire worldview is bullshit! They’re complete frauds!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What you seem to be saying there is the Left are larping as class communists, like they’re not actually against the bourgeoisie or the rich. They’re actually race communists, like race and race hate, punishing White people is at the centre of all of their politics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:27:31]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yes! Yes, they care more. And we see this in their revealed preference. They care more about attacking us than they care about attacking capitalist power. Why is the Left, their number one focus is anti-fascism. Why isn’t anti-capitalism? Why aren’t they going after the enemy in a serious way? Because number one, that’s hard. Because you’re going after the people that are actually powerful! That’s what we do. And we get locked up in jail and we get dragged through courts and horrible things happen to us. People get fired from their jobs. When you go after the real power, real power goes after you!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No bank accounts, no monetisation, no Patreon, no YouTube.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. The only time the Left do anything that really goes after the power, serious power, is when they go after Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. And then they feel some consequences finally, for the first time in their lives.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The only time they feel any consequences. And that also proves the other aspect of what we say, which is that capitalism is jewish! The capitalist elite, a lot of them are fucking jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you look at the history of capitalism, capitalism was developed, the entire logic and structure of capitalism was developed by basically jewish practices subverting medieval European society. We talked about this on the show a few weeks ago. Werner Sombart’s work, the book is called jews and Modern Capitalism. And Werner Sombert wasn’t just any old anti-semite or something. Werner Sombart was the greatest theorist of the German historical School of historical economics in the late 19th and early 20th century. He was a genius! He was a genius!</p>
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<p>And as he was writing his work, basically trying to articulate the whole history of capitalism, how it came into existence and why, he realised that the jews played such an important role that he had to write a completely separate book just on the jews and their involvement in the development of capitalism. And in that book he describes how in medieval Europe, merchants had a completely different ethos.</p>
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<p>So if you were a merchant in medieval Europe and you went out into the public square and you started praising your wares and talking about how great the stuff at your shop is and how low your prices are and all this kind of stuff, that was considered immoral. If you tried to get customers off the other shop owners, that was considered immoral. If you charge a different price than the other merchants, if you tried to like sell your stuff extra cheap, that was considered immoral. Everything had a set price. You sell it at that price. You don’t big up your goods. You are a Christian. The people who made it are Christians. Everyone should just trust that the quality is there, that’s that! There’s no Hoodwinking, there’s no marketing, there’s no manipulation that was permitted. There’s basically, it was just a fair, equitable system and it was completely mediated through charitable, good faith Aryan society.</p>
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<p>Then the jews come in and the jews will come in, they’ll get. Jews had international networks. They they’re an “<em>international clique</em>” as Hitler described. They would be involved, particularly in early colonisation. They were going after the gold mines and the silver mines and stuff over in South America. But they were very involved in these international trade networks also all the trade networks that ran through the Middle East into Europe as well. And they were an international ethnicity, every other ethnic group was in one location. The jews had people everywhere.</p>
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<p>So the jews could use the fact that they were one international group to build all these relationships with the other jewish merchants all around the world and to facilitate international trade.</p>
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<p>And then, as a result, they could then import goods and bring them into your community and sell them cheaper than the stuff made in your local community. And they didn’t have laws against that kind of stuff back then or any kind of regulations back then, because it was an honour system.</p>
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<p>And so they’d come in and they would sell stuff at half the price, and they’d destroy local industries. They’d be haggling people on the street trying to sell stuff. They’d be advertising their goods. This is why the jews took over the media, because the jews were the first people to get into advertising. It was considered immoral to advertise for Aryans. But jews didn’t have any issue with advertising.</p>
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<p>And so they then got into that industry. And that the advertising industry is the backbone of the printing, you know, print media. Print media makes a lot of money off the advertising on the papers, in the newspaper. So as newspapers were invented in the early 18th century and widely distributed, jews played a leading role in financing a lot of that, because jewish merchants would advertise through those.</p>
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<p>And then that gave them a lot of control over media and therefore public perception. But jews innovated in these industries, and so they were able to undercut the opposition. That’s why jews are getting kicked out of all these different cities and countries all across Europe all the time, because they would come in with their investment practices and destroy the livelihoods of local industries and local merchants, completely upset the whole apple cart of the local community. And eventually there would be enough public resentment that they’d run them out of the city and demand that they’d be kicked out of the city. And then they go to the next city and they do the same thing and so on. And the process kept repeating.</p>
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<p>But eventually they were able to become normalised in Europe because they made so many deals with elite political actors and traitors that got in bed with these jewish merchants and were making a quick buck.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:33:18]</span></p>
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<p>And I’m not even talking about usurious lending as well, which is a whole other aspect of this, that eventually jewish mercantile behaviour became normalised. And now it’s considered normal to have advertising. Now it’s considered normal to try and undercut and compete with other firms and try and sell things cheaper and import goods from all over the world.</p>
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<p>And instead of like buying things from like local producers and you know, we’ve got this completely globalised, marketized, corporatized, consumerized society.</p>
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<p>Now this all came from originally the impact of the jewish mentality and jewish culture on Aryan Middle Ages Europe. Without that maybe we wouldn’t live in this fucking shitscape. So capitalism is fundamentally and inherently jewish in a certain way. You could argue according to Sombard’s theories, which I think are really compelling, the history that he describes in that book.</p>
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<p>But then secondarily we can see that jews are very, up to this day. Like I’ve talked about on the show before, how look at the property development industry which is a massive supporter of mass immigration because more immigrants means more demand for property. So they can build more high rise fucking ZOG <span style="color: #008000;">[Zionist Occupied Government]</span> slave high rise apartments and sell them for you 800 grand a pop like in some overcrowded part of like inner city Sydney or Melbourne or something. And a bunch of Asians and pajeets will buy them or want to rent them or whatever. And that’s a great business model for them. It doesn’t do anything for our country, it just clutters our cities, makes traffic worse, depresses wages with cheap labour and so on, but drives up the price of rent and all this kind of stuff. But for them it’s great! They’re making millions, they’re making billions.</p>
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<p>And the biggest property developer in Australia is Harry Triguboff. The jew. And the jews have always been instrumental in high rise development in this country because before World War II we didn’t allow high rise development in Australia because our culture said if we have all these high rise apartments in the cities, what this is going to encourage people to do is to move in there, move out of their parents home when they’re in their 20s, move into one of these apartments in the city and they’re not going to have children, they’re not going to get married, they’re going to start having frivolous sex, they’re going to start developing this kind of cosmopolitan Left-wing culture, they’re going to become basically soy Jack Reddit libtard types. We don’t want that! That’s happened in Europe and it’s created all these revolutionary communist movements and it’s been a mess in Europe. We don’t want that in Australia.</p>
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<p>The Australian dream is going to be we’re going to have, everyone is going to have their own quarter acre block and have their own home that you can fit a family in. And they’re going to get married young, they’re going to have children and they’re going to have a dignified existence and you can go and work at the factory before we send the jobs overseas and you can earn enough to be able to support a wife and three kids and so on.</p>
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<p>And that’s how we’re going to build our society. It’s going to be healthy. The tallest building in town is going to be the Church. Nothing’s going to be bigger than the Church. No high rise development. Everyone’s going to have a backyard, everyone’s going to be out, kids playing outside, healthy, blah blah, blah. That was the great Australian dream. And the jews came in after World War II, started building high rise developments. The first high rise developments were in the jew areas of Sydney and Melbourne, in Bondi, in St Kilda.</p>
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<p>The places that still to this day are where the jews live. That’s where the first high rise developments were. And they got money from their international jewish finance buddies to finance them because they have the international networks that give them low interest loans to then build their high rise developments. And this is where the money for a lot of these wealthy jewish families that are now controlling our government came from is from setting up shop, basically subverting our society, building these high rise developments, developing these giant corporations that now control our government and are forcing immigrants down our throat. And these have been a lot of the money that’s been behind multiculturalism and so on has come from these developments and they’ve completely subverted Australian society.</p>
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<p>Now we do have these cosmopolitan communist Leftists that are like they don’t have any children and so on and live in the inner cities and perpetuate this Left-wing ideology, just like it was predicted.</p>
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<p>And so you can see like the same jewish infection of our society, kind of like what I described in medieval Europe has happened here to create this current problem.</p>
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<p>But a lot of people don’t know understand this or know about this, but this is just history, this is just how it works. So you know, when we’re talking about the problems with capitalism, it’s not just an abstract idea, we’re talking about fucking jews!</p>
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<p>So anyway, I went on a bit of a tangent there, but I thought it was important.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, you sometimes do that. I tend to try to just let you go. But it was all very good stuff. That’s the thing. It’s a lot to unpack for the average person. But because people can go back and they can re-watch it, they can replay these little segments. I think it’s all really good stuff. I’ve got to jet. I’ve got some responsibilities to see to. But it’s been a great stream so far. You’re gonna stay with it Joel, I suppose, and, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:38:26]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No. We’ll end it there.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s okay. We can do some Superchats then. I can stick around for that, I suppose.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> All right. There’s not that many. Clever Name said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Never get to catch you live. The moustache needs a badge and some brutality to go with it. Solid 7 out of 10. Congrats on the little one.”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s obviously directed towards Tom. And I agree that Tom kind of has a cop physiognomy. Tom does kind of look like a cop in a way. Maybe in a healthy society, he would be a cop.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Whoa, Are you talking about Thomas Sewell?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Don’t you think he kind of looks like a cop?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe with a moustache a little bit. But I always thought I could be a good cop if I was living in a society where that was feasible. Obviously, it’s not feasible now, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like, seven years, &#8230; Cops that wear the aviators and &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, you used to have to be a guy like me to be a cop. You have to be as big and as tall as me. They were like the basic physical standards to be a police officer because you had to command respect in the community. You had to be intimidating to a certain degree, but also respectable. So, like, my physiognomy was the one they used to go for. But now there’s all these equality you can’t discriminate, that kind of stuff.</p>
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<p>So I wouldn’t last as a police officer because I wouldn’t be able to toe the line. I wouldn’t be swearing allegiance to feminism and the LGBT community. And so I’d quickly be shunned by the rest of the force.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, once upon a time, I think I could have been a good cop.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, in a healthy society, yeah the NSN would be the cops and we’d keep the streets safe. You know, that story the other day of that fat nigger that raped that poor young girl, and they had the CCTV. I posted it, Noticer News posted as well, this fat, disgusting nigger!</p>
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<p>And I think I said in the replies to when the mainstream news posted the video, looking for the suspect, I was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why the fuck do we have negroes in Australia? Like, why the fuck are they here?”</span></h3>
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<p>Like, if you just stop and think, like, take a step back.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They are a bioweapon!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Just think how ridiculous that is! Why the fuck are they here?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They are bioweapons!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Why did we build planes and boats and transport fucking savage rapist beasts halfway across the fucking world into our country? You know, give them like Centerlink bucks and like feed them full of KFC hormones and just let them roam the streets, like with no supervision, like not even putting them in a cage or anything! They can just roam the streets! It’s like, what next? Like chimpanzees, lions? What other wildlife are going to bring from Africa? I mean, it’s fucking insane!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, no comment. We want to start with the Superchats. We’ve got a few from Rumble. We’ve got the Shogun 21. Thanks very much:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Violence prevails when democracy fails.”</span></h3>
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<p>Said Molotov Solution:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If you enjoy metal and are red pilled, they are a must listen.”</span></h3>
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<p>Oh, it must be a band, Molotov Solution.</p>
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<p>All right, Molotov Solution. It sounds interesting. I’m actually I won’t talk about that.</p>
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<p>Anyway, next is Ukrainian groiper, sends through 10 bucks. You went through that one already, “<em>Naan Nation</em>”. Yeah. And Fellow Comrade, regular supporter of the show, sends through $10. Thanks, mate. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I wonder if the face mask ban will cover people wearing Groucho Marx glasses as a disguise?”</span></h3>
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<p>Maybe, but they said one of the reasons given for banning the face masks was it was protecting people from capsicum spray, which I don’t think face masks do very well.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, they don’t work.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You need to have like a full gas mask with like airtight goggles to protect your eyes. It burns your skin too. Like, so it’s not really. It incapacitates you. I’ve been hit by mace once at a fair distance too. And it doesn’t matter who you are, that stuff incapacitates you for 10 minutes.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If you have good goggles, you can deal with it. Like it’s kind of real spicy and that’s not great! But, excuse me. <span style="color: #008000;">[coughing]</span> Thinking of capsicum spray just like fucked me up then.</p>
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<p>But if you have good goggles that keep it out of your eyes, it’s tolerable. It’s tolerable. It’s like eating like fuck loads of chilies or something. Like, if it gets in your nose or whatever, unless you get like straight in your mouth or something, then obviously.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you like spicy food, Joel? Do you like spicy food? Is that your thing?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, to an extent, but I’m not like, crazy about it. You know what I mean?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I love the stuff.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I mean, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t look like he sort of guy who would like spicy food, but I can’t get enough of it. Makes me salivate just thinking about spicy food.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m not a huge fan of the Indian, maybe it’s just I’m so racist. I can’t bring myself to enjoy Indian food, but, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t eat Indian. Indian curries are just created to disguise the fact that the meat is off and really poor quality. That’s why Indians curried their food. They didn’t have refrigeration for a long time. So Indian cuisine is just rotten, poor quality food mixed in slop to disguise how bad it actually is. Like, I don’t know why people go to Indian restaurants. The fact that Indian restaurants even exist is ridiculous! I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I mean first of all, the premise, an Indian is going to cook you dinner? Doesn’t matter what they’re making, that’s fucked! Anyway, Mexican food. I don’t mind the burrito, but from what I understand the burrito that as we understand it, is actually an American invention that’s White people improving Mexican cuisine and like upgrading it from, like, schlop to something like, actually edible.</p>
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<p>So that’s not really a Mexican thing. It’s like fake Mexican. Tex Mex. I think it’s Texan. So, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Aussie autist 88 sends through five bucks. Thanks, mate. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Happy midsummer. It’s two days time.”</span></h3>
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<p>Oh, someone knows. I won’t divulge anything about that. There’s nothing crazy going on. It’s just like a little private Christmas party.</p>
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<p>But yeah, you guys might see some photos of that after the fact. We’ll see.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, no, Midsummer’s good to celebrate. We don’t celebrate it properly in Australia because unlike the Europeans, it’s like so close to Christmas where the Europeans is like the opposite side of the year.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So. Hang on, isn’t Midsummer that movie. Is that the name of the movie?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m sure there’s a movie called Midsummer I can’t think of, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was thinking of the direct Shakespeare’s, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The Midsummer’s Night Dream. That’s like a play.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No. Okay, well I was thinking of our Christmas party in two days time which has a Midsummer dress theme. I might as well just give it away now.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Dude OPSEC! OPSEC <span style="color: #008000;">[Operations Security]!<span style="color: #333333;"> We can’t be divulging our private, &#8230; On our online show.</span></span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s just a dress code. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Who cares like whatever. I hope we get some photos.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We don’t. I don’t know what you’re talking about.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m just excited about it. I’ve already bought my get up and I’m excited!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Why don’t we like go through our criminal records again on stream? And go through all the horrible things, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well okay, where do I begin? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> And then on Odysee I got a Superchat from Clever Name. Oh no, I already read that one. On Entropy I’ve got a Superchat from the Gump. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“White people need to start to favour our own kind in business. That’s the only way to generate and keep resources in our group interests. Big contracts, fundings, positions. They all have diversity requirements to weaken us.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well I agree with that. Insofar as you can do business with Whites and work with Whites and so on, you always should. You absolutely should! And I think that’s quite clear and obvious a good thing to do. Personally I hate working with non-Whites, and your goal should be to work with them as little as possible, and if possible not at all do business with them. Not at all if you can. But I understand that a lot of industries it’s unavoidable so it is what it is for some people. But that should be your objective.</p>
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<p>But also yeah like if you can source your produce from like local farmers, if you can get milk from local farmers, eggs from local farmers, etc. Meat is like not only is it going to be high quality and better for you, better for your health but also that’s so much better than going down to like you know the ZOG options of Woolies or Coles and like dumping your money into some foreign jew owned you know megacorp that is importing half the from overseas and injecting the other half of the with fucked up hormones that are bad for your health and screwing over Australian farmers etc. Etc. So yeah definitely always try and do your business locally and within the race.</p>
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<p>But I think that’s more or less all the Superchats.</p>
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<p>So thanks for watching the show this evening. It’s been a good chill stream. Unfortunately, Tom. Yeah suffered ZOG DDoS attacks and they took him out. They took out our boy. So RIP to the big man!</p>
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<p>But I think next week we’ll figure out whatever was wrong there. We’ll fix that up. Hersant <span style="color: #008000;">[Jacob]</span> should have his setup sorted as well. He was supposed to be on tonight, but then some things came up.</p>
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<p>So we’re gonna have Hersant and Tom on more again in the future, like it used to be. Well, Hersant’s been on a few times, but Tom used to be on more regularly. I do like doing the show when it’s like three or four of us a bit more because it’s kind of like often we cook up like a more intense conversation sometimes. What do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think it was pretty intense. Oh, well, it wasn’t as intense as some of our conversations, but we’re building on it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Some of the best shows, when we go up on tangents for like an hour. That’s some of the best content in my opinion.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:48:58]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. Well, people watch the show in the background a lot of the time. The benefit of long streams is you can put them on while you’re doing other stuff. So people sometimes only catch glimpses of what you’re talking about, then they go back to it later if they’re really interested.</p>
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<p>And that’s the point of these shows. It’s to kind of replace your standard television programme so you’re not being brainwashed by bad propaganda. You’re getting the good kind of propaganda from us. Because whatever you’re going to watch, it’s propaganda to some degree. Whatever you expose yourself to in the realm of entertainment information, it’s always propaganda to some degree. So choose the Right propaganda and you’ll know it’s the Right propaganda if you start if your life starts improving. I think like, one way to gauge the quality of the content you’re exposing yourself to is how your health shifts or develops or declines over time. Like, if you start watching a new type of political, ideological content, you get into that kind of thing, you’re into it for a few years. Compare the way you look and feel. Compare your physical health and your mental health to where you were three years prior, before you were into that stuff. If it’s worse, it’s probably shit for you. If it’s better, it’s good for you! And I seem to be getting healthier. So nationalism is good for you guys. Take my word for it.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if I’m making no sense there. I’m getting to the point where I’m getting really drowsy.</p>
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<p>But it’s been a good show, guys. Thanks for joining us.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Before you go, that Ben Dawkins, who just quit the One Nation Party in WA, he just tweeted:</p>
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<p>So the fact that he mentioned it means it’s probably something to do with that. We’ll see tomorrow what comes out.</p>
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<p>But yeah, keep up the pressure. Parmindergate has only just begun! Keep the pressure up on One Nation. If you’re not on Twitter, make a Twitter account. I’ve said this the whole time on this show. There’s a way to do online activism. You can make an impact online because everyone who’s speced into politics, works in politics, is in political media. They’re all on Twitter. If you can push narratives and direct conversations on Twitter, you can actually create an effect in actual politics if you do it effectively and aggressively with a big enough group. So get on there, help support the initiatives. And yeah, should be a Merry Christmas to everyone.</p>
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<p>By the way, I know we’re still a few days out, but we probably won’t do another show until after Christmas. Maybe we will, maybe we won’t. Probably not. It’s a lot on, a lot of stuff with the community, with family and stuff I got to do personally. And that’s what you should be doing this time of year. Hopefully people have got time off work and you can spend it with your close friends, with your family in particular. And tis the season. Enjoy yourselves and we love you all. We’ll see you all in the next episode. And White fucking Power!</p>
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<p>(Comments as of 1/1/2026 = 63)</p>
<p>akdjfhgpjksdnkjnsdfg<br />
1 day ago<br />
You must worship the JEW, or you are a national security threat.<br />
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<p>Jak_85<br />
Supporter<br />
25 weeks ago<br />
The aesthetic argument against terrorism is very true! It doesn’t all have to surround logic or false logic, but cool or not cool, gay or not gay.</p>
<p>XYZezima<br />
1 year ago<br />
Know what sucks? I can&#8217;t shit right now. I&#8217;m sitting here with a log that is apparently just too wide to pass. It&#8217;s honestly stressing me out. Why the fuck do we have all these weird health problems? My body can&#8217;t even regulate the size of its own turds and now I&#8217;m going to have to go to the hospital or die of a blockage. It&#8217;s not even funny, this honestly sucks. I am barely 30, I don&#8217;t smoke, drink maybe two times a year, diet could be better but I always feel like shit. Fuck I hate this world. Went and bought a little bottle of milk, it had 21g of sugar. 21g of fucking sugar for some 2% darigold milk. The chocolate milk had as much sugar as a Pepsi, almost 50g. Insane. Absolutely insane to pump us full of so much sugar. And now I can&#8217;t even shit. You guys understand I&#8217;m sitting here and I&#8217;m going to die from a prolapsed asshole (look it up, not a joke) and my cats are going to eat my fucking body. These jews got my body to sabotage itself, choking on its own shit. .. I hate this world.</p>
<p>BuckinghamPhallus<br />
1 year ago<br />
ON being run by a retarded fat bastard versus the polished opposition Indian bastards is part of the ruse. if you&#8217;re talking about &#8220;your&#8221; Indian you&#8217;re not talking about why he is even fucking there. brilliant movement of Overton window</p>
<p>masklophobix<br />
1 year ago<br />
Can Joel please just spend 80 bucks on a webcam already?? Potato-vision needs to go.</p>
<p>Napoleontas<br />
1 year ago<br />
I understand you are Australians, but if you want to attract the attention of a wider audience, you need to focus on broader issues. Just a friendly advice.</p>
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Jak_85<br />
Supporter<br />
25 weeks ago<br />
Gay</p>
<p>Napoleontas<br />
1 year ago<br />
I like how the neurotic harpy excludes specifically White MEN from her &#8220;discrimination&#8221; and &#8220;racist&#8221; list. &#8220;Laws&#8221; legitimize the state employees to use violence against you, physical violence. That&#8217;s what &#8220;Laws&#8221; are.</p>
<p>Motion937<br />
1 year ago<br />
Balaclavas would be totally acceptable to them if it were only left-wing activists wearing them.<br />
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<p>kitsubot<br />
VerifiedSupporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
Banning face masks at protests? Lets see them ban makeup &#8211; u can use face paint to obfuscate ur identity too<br />
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Motion937<br />
1 year ago<br />
Ban left wing activists &amp; politicians.</p>
<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
EMJ addressing similair themes; https://rumble.com/v62kcve-chicago-talk-show-host-emj-interview-5-translate-hate-the-catholic-edition.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp</p>
<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
Merry Christmas Joel. Don&#8217;t let the bastards get you down.</p>
<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
Merry Christmas https://rumble.com/v5zbhph-the-xmas-song-2024.html?e9s=src_v1_upp</p>
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palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
Xmas larf</p>
<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
&#8216;JEWS HATE FREEDOM&#8217;. That is a great op when you objectively look at the power these cunts are abusing in parliament in Victoria. Well done Joel &amp; lads.</p>
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palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
Melb- Canberra-DC-City of London</p>
<p>fdgrdfg<br />
1 year ago<br />
55:25 So India&#8217;s population in 1858 year was 203.000.000 of Indians and 20.000 British soldiers conquered them? That&#8217;s like 1:10000 ratio wtf.</p>
<p>BradC1988<br />
1 year ago<br />
White Fucking Power! o/<br />
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<p>Rumbolinawave321<br />
1 year ago<br />
It&#8217;s a simple question How many immigrants are India taking? And if they aren&#8217;t taking any, why is it so?<br />
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<p>newgerman<br />
1 year ago<br />
Talking about terrorism as she did without a peep about Israeli massacres.. then mentioning &#8220;anti-Semitism&#8221;&#8230; GOD IT IS FUCKING ENRAGING!!!!!<br />
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<p>shovelheadamy<br />
1 year ago<br />
&#8230;nice shiner, btw</p>
<p>shovelheadamy<br />
1 year ago<br />
I heard this saying once, &#8220;In youth, wisdom and beauty is rare&#8221;. I think that this applies to you Joel. I am always impressed by your deep insight into such a wide array of subjects, fringed with a decent sense of humour, for someone so young. Always stay humble and hold fast. Thanks, from a Canadian. Blair and Tom are equally interesting to listen to. You men all seem to embody the spirit of our common gentlemanly ancestry with your decorum and manners.<br />
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<p>Bumble_Bee<br />
1 year ago<br />
Anders Breivik, JDL confederate shoots up a bunch of boycott Israel Labor supporters on an island after the U.N voted to give Palestine a spot in the E.U parliament&#8230;. Brenton Tarrant the very year of the Pandemic did a hollywood style performance art that mirrors Wendy Scur&#8217;s account at Port Aurthur in which not only was there a ammo mag left in the hallway as Brenton Enters, the bodies laying by the chairs move by the time Brenton re-enters the mosque&#8230; All the bodies were not ripped apart by high velocity rounds nor at point blank range&#8230;also, Firearms experts show that nato rounds will go right through walls and produce smoke in enclosed spaces like that, Brenton was using an airgun and those &#8220;Muslims&#8221; were actors and the whole operation was a Mossad public relations excercise&#8230;. all in time for the pandemic&#8230;. which I&#8217;m sure they knew was coming&#8230; because Trump went to China and what a perfect place in China&#8217;s corrupt and disorganized system to launch a controlled release of a virus&#8230;(even it was even a virus since they&#8217;ve never isolated it nor shown what &#8220;covid 19&#8243; actually is&#8221;</p>
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FJB6666<br />
1 year ago<br />
Again. FFS. Joel your a LEGEND. I love your rants. They are the best..<br />
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<p>FJB6666<br />
1 year ago<br />
Joel, your a LEGEND. I love your rants. There the best. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>Pincermovement<br />
1 year ago<br />
Go black face<br />
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<p>FJB6666<br />
1 year ago<br />
Thomas should shorten his moustache, he&#8217;s needs the Adolf look.<br />
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<p>LordVividColours<br />
1 year ago<br />
Blair was for sure on to something when he was talking about choosing the right propaganda to consume I became a nationalist about 2 years ago and in that time I quit smoking weed &amp; tobacco, I stopped being a total degenerate, I got more &amp; more active, I learned to see the bad propaganda clearly, I lost a shit tonne of weight and slowly my life has more meaning giving me more drive to actually have a life instead of an existence. I&#8217;d rather kill myself than go back to the way I was<br />
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UncircumcisedCircus<br />
1 year ago<br />
The system relies on people being doped up/down for people to not notice. The more sober I have been the easier it was to see through the lies.<br />
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<p>newgerman<br />
1 year ago<br />
good for you man<br />
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<p>MadHatterAU<br />
1 year ago<br />
Les Dawson could model that face on churches as a gargoyle.</p>
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jjbeez57<br />
1 year ago<br />
Elephant in the living room…. Tom’s moustache looks gay. Sorry to say this as the guy’s a legend, but the people around him need to let him know. Like the intervention of an alcoholic by friends and family, they do it because they love them.<br />
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<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
The stream breaks up with Tom&#8217;s very contentious exam into the racial nature of souls. Coincidence? Australian disrupt law?</p>
<p>TheShowgun<br />
VerifiedSupporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
You have officially lost your freedom gentlemen. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f614.png" alt="😔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>ProvingNihil<br />
1 year ago<br />
Those laws for wearing face masks are ridiculous, they&#8217;re desperate at this point to find out our identity.<br />
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<p>RoseRock444<br />
Supporter<br />
1 year ago<br />
There is no such thing as a soul, Blair<br />
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Jak_85<br />
Supporter<br />
25 weeks ago<br />
Soul from from Old English sawol from Old Norse sala from Proto-Germanic *saiwalō. “It has been suspected to have meant originally &#8220;coming from or belonging to the sea,&#8221; the supposed stopping place of the soul before birth or after death [Barnhart]; if so, it would be from Proto-Germanic *saiwaz (see sea). Klein explains this as &#8220;from the lake,&#8221; as a dwelling-place of souls in ancient northern Europe.” [etymonline source] Our soul is our “gene-lake” or “gene-pool”</p>
<p>bush_bash_boy<br />
1 year ago<br />
for an extremely smart fella, joel does the cause and himself, a disservice by talking about sensitive subjects, such as terrorism, and using words like &#8220;it&#8217;s gay&#8221; and &#8220;edge lord&#8221;. completely fine to say between mates, but it&#8217;s hard to take you serions when you talk like a troll.<br />
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EnglandAwake<br />
1 year ago<br />
Shut the fuck up with your unearned critiques.<br />
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HKeithVarange88<br />
1 year ago<br />
It was authoritative and humorous, don’t be a boomer<br />
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NaziGoering<br />
1 year ago<br />
He&#8217;s right. Joel talks like a troll because he thinks it sounds &#8220;edgey&#8221; but it&#8217;s just cringey.<br />
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whitehonkymonkey<br />
1 year ago<br />
agree, this podcast below , clearly states how hitler respected other cultures,yet preferred to separate. spoke about what was beneficial to germany and the messaging, he agreed with goebbels, talking down the others was of no benefit to the movement. why joel and some others fall for this denigration does not benefit the national socialist movement, if such people continue on this path,the jews win. comment below not aimed at you nazigoering. do as the fuhrer would do, FFS. yes your feeling a bit hurt by these comments, but please get on board we need to win over the masses. keep the denigration at home if you cant control it. be like the fuhrer. thank you. HH.https://rumble.com/v5jtq51-all-the-lies-you-have-been-told-about-hitler-part-1-x-space.html?playlist_id=watch-history<br />
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newgerman<br />
1 year ago<br />
This was an excellent WN discussion by the Three Aussi-teers. Where&#8217;s &#8220;Numero quatro&#8221;? Hope he&#8217;s not in jail or some shit. Above all, heartfelt congratulations on the upcoming baby, Mr. Sewell<br />
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<p>LaborCorruptionCommission<br />
1 year ago<br />
Those guys are doing so much damage. Islam is the immediate problem. STFU and let their terrorism be front and centre. This shit just lets people be diverted to the Far Righht boogey man. IQ is not one of their qualities.<br />
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<p>thorne91<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
Last comment I promise. But it seems like that fat jew cow on TV was talking directly to you guys. o/o/o/<br />
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<p>thorne91<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
Jews always pass anti-“hate speech” laws right before they do a white genocide. It’s textbook for them, just like 9/11 and October 7th. It’s impressive how they have this shit down to a tee<br />
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thorne91<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
Main reference for this would be the Bolshevik Revolution, which I believe was simple a prototype of the worldwide cabal they intend to form. And they’ll mobilize their mud golems to carry it out against their white “oppressors” but I’m not worried because a few whites always crawl out of the ashes and rebuild. It’s just a condition of our existence to repeatedly overcome Jews and their golems.<br />
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<p>thorne91<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
“His terrorism was boring and gay” hahahahaha<br />
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<p>thorne91<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 year ago<br />
I’m kind of surprised we still have a first and second amendment in USA at this point. It’s like the only based thing about living in this gay empire<br />
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<p>Boonske<br />
1 year ago<br />
LIKE AND SHARE THE STREAM ITS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Red Ice TV</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Bondi Beach Shooting &amp;</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">White Australia with Thomas Sewell</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Wed, Dec 17, 2025</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this live stream video Thomas Sewell from White Australia joins Henrik to talk about the effort to take back Australia, the Bondi Beach shooting and the political aspirations of White Australia party.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Points discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The shooting occurred during a Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach on December 14th [2025].</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The attackers were a father and son duo, one of whom was born in Australia to an Indian father and Italian mother.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The son had converted to Islam and received religious training; he was also linked to ISIS.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The attackers allegedly targeted jews specifically, though many others were injured.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“We’re surprised it doesn’t happen more often,” said Sewell, referencing Muslim rhetoric in Australia.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell says Muslims in gyms and job sites often express extreme anti-Jewish views.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He criticises conspiracy theories suggesting the attack was staged or fake.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Sometimes Muslims just kill people,” dismissing Mossad-related theories.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He says the jewish event was not random—it was advertised and attended by prominent Zionists.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Arsen Ostrovsky, an Israeli human rights lawyer, was present at the event.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell notes Ostrovsky arrived in Australia weeks earlier to “fight anti-semitism.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The father was killed during the attack; the son was recently brought out of a coma.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Some Aussies tried to intervene and were mistakenly targeted by police.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell contrasts police response to White nationalists vs. Muslim terrorists.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“If you’re a White nationalist, they pull the gun out on you immediately.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Female police officers on the scene were ineffective and had “mental breakdowns.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell describes the police as cowardly and unprepared for real violence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He criticises the Australian government for focusing on “Nazis” instead of real threats.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The shooter was on a watchlist since 2019 but still obtained a gun licence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“He joined a Serbian hunting club to get the licence,” Sewell explains.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell criticises ASIO (Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) for neglect.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He says ASIO fired 10 senior Counter Terrorism staff in 2019 in a “Red Wedding.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The shooting is being used as a pretext to increase surveillance on Right-wing groups.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Media and politicians are using the event to attack White nationalists, not Muslims.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell says the jewish community is pushing hard for political consequences.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He argues Australia’s multiculturalism has failed and is a direct cause of the attack.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“We don’t want jews or Muslims in Australia.”</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He blames both communities for bringing foreign conflicts to Australian soil.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The shooter legally owned a bolt-action rifle, a type common in Australia.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Gun laws in Australia are strict, especially for political dissidents.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell used to own firearms but sold them to avoid being raided.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He describes how police use gun inspections as a pretext to search homes.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The government recently decriminalised the ISIS flag while banning Nazi symbols.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell says the government is pushing “social cohesion” as a propaganda term.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Multiculturalism has led to ethnic enclaves and White flight in urban areas.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Social cohesion” is code for suppressing dissent and maintaining control.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Labor Party relies on Muslim and Indian votes and won’t criticise Islam.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The Liberal Party is collapsing, and the jewish lobby is shifting support to One Nation.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell believes the political system is fracturing and ripe for disruption.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The NSN is launching a political party: White Australia.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Four core policies: 1) Restore the White Australia Policy, 2) End debt slavery, 3) Bill of Rights, 4) Reindustrialisation.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Policy 1 includes mass deportations and reversing demographic changes.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Policy 2 would eliminate interest on home loans and refund paid interest.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Policy 3 includes free speech, gun rights (Swiss model), and low taxes.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Policy 4 focuses on economic autarky, national infrastructure, and high-tech industry.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“We want to give Australians a sense of purpose again,” Sewell says.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The party is already gaining traction and could become the 6th largest in Australia.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell expects resistance but believes the system will expose itself if it tries to block them.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">He emphasises the importance of community, discipline, and rejecting black-pill attitudes.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Don’t associate with pessimists. They’re poison,” he warns.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">NSN is intergenerational, with children of members now joining.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">The movement is growing through fitness, activism, and social cohesion among Whites.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Sewell concludes: “We’re going to win!”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for tuning in here. I’m Henrik. Glad to have you with us here on Red Ice today. If watching live on Rumble X Twitter, Red Ice TV, Red Ice members, however you’re tuning in, thank you for being here.</p>
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<p>So, yes, we obviously are going to follow up on the topic we covered a little bit yesterday in terms of the shooting down at Bondi beach in Australia. We have Thomas Sewell back on the show today to cover this. Not only, of course, what’s happened with the shooting, the potential political fallout from this, but there’s other issues, of course, happening. It is interesting, though, because this has been called basically “<em>an intelligence failure</em>” by the Australian, you know, intelligence services, ASIO <span style="color: #008000;">[Australian Security Intelligence Organization]</span>, I think it’s shortened. As and they’ve been observing obviously the National Socialists, all the Nationalists in Australia, they’re the ones kind of under scrutiny. They’re the ones being investigated, they’re the ones being followed around, arrested, all these things, right?</p>
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<p>And then you have this blatant, kind of hole here. We will get into whether or not this is intentional. Did they drop the guard? What’s really happening? I have a lot of questions, as always. As you should, I think, which is healthy around these events and how it’s being used.</p>
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<p>But it’s clear just on the official level, if you look at it, what they’re saying that this is. Obviously this is a massive failure then in the sense of not observing the actual terrorists in the country like this. Well, first of all, he was Pakistani. Then they’re coming back and saying now he was originally born in India, but who cares? What’s the difference? Right? So, Tom Sewell, welcome back. Good to see you again. How are you?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Good, thanks. Thank you for having me on the show again. And yes, it’s been eventful as always. There’s plenty to talk about and very exciting times ahead. A lot of controversy. Did you want to start with Bondi first?</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I think. So why don’t we clear, well, it’s not just clearing it off the plate. It’s such a big thing. It’s really the main story we should lead with here, obviously. I’m not sure we have to reiterate it, but obviously, yes, we had a shooting on the 14th Australian time then. So it’s on the 14th, December 14th. And obviously, yeah, just explain what you, what your initial kind of, I guess, you know, way that you view this is not strange. We knew that this is like “<em>part and parcel</em>” now of being in a multicultural, multiracial country like Australia has been turned into against all of our desires. But still, were you surprised by this?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> No, absolutely not! And myself and most of the leadership of the organization have commented that we’re surprised that it doesn’t happen more often and that it took this long considering the rhetoric we’ve experienced from Muslims in Australia over the past couple years.</p>
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<p>And I’m not just talking about rhetoric in terms of the Palestinian protests in the city every week. I’m talking about just everyday Muslims that you might come across on job sites or if you train at a commercial gym, whether it be a fighting gym, or a lifting gym. The rhetoric out of Muslims has been very extreme! Like we would call it Fed postie. We don’t get away with that kind of rhetoric.</p>
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<p>But it’s just commonplace within the Muslim community to sort of talk about and advocate for this sort of stuff. So yeah. Where do you want to go with this? I can go into more detail.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, so we talked about it yesterday a little bit as well, obviously of the shooters and everything else. And first of all, do you trust what you’re hearing from the police and the mainstream government sources on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Well, I don’t. As a general rule, I don’t trust the police and the mainstream media. But this is something that’s too big to fool.</p>
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<p>I mean, there were thousands, &#8230; I mean, there’s a lot of Americans sharing kind of schizophrenic conspiracy theories about it. There’s a few odd videos that I do admit there’s a few videos that look, the guy was probably just missing his shots. I don’t think he was shooting blanks. There’s a whole bunch of schizo theories out there. Most people don’t know how populated Bondi <span style="color: #008000;">[pronounced bond-eye]</span> beach is in Sydney, Australia.</p>
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<p>So most Americans, they can’t fathom that this happened at the most populated place in Sydney, like almost more populated than the CBD. If you’ve ever been a Bondi beach, there are just potentially tens of thousands of people there are thousands and thousands of witnesses. Yeah, I really dislike the way that so many people on the dissonant right are trying to transmute this into some sort of conspiracy theory. Sometimes Muslims just kill people!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So strange1 No!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And in this case, they very obviously targeted a jewish event. A predominantly jewish. Well, not a predominantly jewish event. A jewish event that had maybe a couple hundred people attend. But again, it was at a beach where there’s tens of thousands of Aussies and tourists.</p>
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<p>I mean, I’ve parked my car literally by that bridge. Like, when I’ve gone to Sydney, I’ve visited Bondi Beach, I don’t know every second time that I’ve gone to Sydney, so probably 20 or 30 times over my life. And I’ve parked my car at that very spot. I know exactly where that is. You know, where that big, surf house is, the big clubhouse there. You have lunch just on the other side of the road from that shooting.</p>
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<p>So it was recognizable immediately. The reaction from the police was to be expected. It was typical. I mean, seeing the police just take so long to react, that’s pretty common in Australia. If you’re a White nationalist, they’ll pull the gun out on you like the millisecond. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I think they rev themselves up when they come to your house. I think the police in Australia are a bit different to the police in America. They’re not sort of combat aware, they’re not psychologically trained to deal with these sort of scenarios.</p>
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<p>Whereas I think in America the threat level of gun violence is so high, or at least they’re trained to expect a high level of gun violence. Whereas in Australia, the police don’t have any balls unless they’ve got like two hours to psychologically prepare for kicking your door in. Because every time I’ve had issues with police, you know, there’ll be 10 or 20 of them and they already have the guns out and they’re ready to shoot you while you’re trying to answer your door.</p>
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<p>But when there’s an actual active shooter situation, I mean, they’re just hiding behind cars and you saw like two of the female police officers have mental breakdowns. It was just really embarrassing.</p>
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<p>What else? I mean, yeah, my understanding was that, sorry, I’ll let you go. There’s so much to cover.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So of course we had Arsen Ostrovsky coming out early. And of course this is one of the reasons why I had questions about it I mean, he literally came to Australia. He said in the clip here we could play it in a moment, but like three weeks ago to fight anti-semitism, and this was heightened. The whole jewish community has allegedly like, warned that this was going to happen. There was a number of posts from the Australian jewish Association. They were talking about this was very foreseeable and stuff like that. And of course I’m gonna say:</p>
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<p>Because they’re knowing what’s happening here. Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And it’s very foreseeable because you have an ongoing war between Zionists and I guess just jews in general and the Palestinians in the Middle East. And they’re killing, I don’t know, somewhere between 10 and 100 Arabs a day over in the Middle East. And the way most people’s brains work, and especially the way Arabs brains work is. Yeah, they don’t recognize borders, they don’t care. And these weren’t even Arabs, technically, this father and son team. I guess they were Arabs in the sense of what etymologically the word Arab means, which is mixed. They’re a mixed population. They’re a mongrel population.</p>
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<p>But I believe these two were half Indian, half Italian.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Really?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And yes. Yeah. So the father is an Indian national and the son was born in Australia to an Indian father and I believe an Italian mother. So he’s mixed race, and he’s converted to Islam, which is what Islam is. It’s a mongrel rape gang. It’s where all the mongrels go and convert and join the big brown alliance gang together. And he received a little bit of training in the Philippines, so he probably went over to the Philippines to not just do military training, but also to probably get a blessing from ISIS, because there is an ISIS cell in the Philippines.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So that’s what the Intel is saying is that this guy was on a watch list from 2019 or 2020 that ASIO were keeping an eye on him because of obviously what he was posting on the Internet and the mosque that he was hanging out at. So he was actually a junior scholar at one of the more further down the line Sunni mosques here in Sydney. And he was not an imam or anything like that. Not highly trained, but he’s obviously gone through to religiously study Islam. He’s not just like a Friday Muslim that’s just casually gone down there. He has actually completed like his basic diplomas in understanding Islamic studies. And clearly he’s educated in Islam enough to know that if you want your 72 virgins, you got to go kill jews.</p>
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<p>So he completed his education with that act. You could say if you understand Islam. And his father, I don’t know much about the father, but I do know that he’s an Indian national.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> The father was killed.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The father was killed. The son just came out of the coma, just today. The news was saying just today he’s awoken from his coma.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay. Yeah, because you saw random other Aussies attacking the crew there on the bridge obviously too. And the police couldn’t, like, they didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t have any control of the situation. And guys were just moving in. They were even going after another random brown guy, &#8230; They were like these White Aussies, &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The footage I saw was that the first guy on the bridge to try to disarm them was a brown guy. And the one of the cops shot at him while he had his hands up.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Wow!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And then a whole bunch of Aussies jumped the bridge and tried to attack. Yeah, this is the footage here. So a bunch of Aussies are attacking because he’s wearing a black Tshirt.</p>
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<p>So it’s like an Arab in a black Tshirt. And so people obviously thought that was the same guy, but he was actually the first to run up there to be a hero and then the next two Aussies that went up there to also be heroes. That’s one thing that’s interesting is you’ve got female cops literally hiding behind cars and having mental breakdowns. And you’ve got Baz here with his shirt off, two other Aussies and an Arab guy running up there hero style, unarmed to try to tackle these guys and disarm them.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And you’ve also got, I think earlier you had that old jewish, &#8230; Oh no, he wasn’t jewish, he was a Coptic Christian. I think old Coptic Christian guy, another Arab, attack him and take the shotgun off him, but not shoot him because apparently the shotgun was out of ammunition and then he ended up getting shot I think in the arm.</p>
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<p>So it’s a chaotic situation obviously. There’s nothing suspicious about it in my opinion. I think that we should really focus on the principle that we need to be a sovereign country here in Australia. And this incident is caused by the fact that we have warring tribes in our nation! And the fault of this is the government for allowing the jews and allowing Muslims into our country when they have no place! They have no place in our country. And it doesn’t matter whether one is the victim and one is the attacker. This is caused by inter-ethnic or inter-religious conflict overseas and these problems are here. And I would have the same opinion if it was any group of people. But I especially have this opinion when it’s non-White people, when it’s brown people or desert people that are killing each other. We just don’t want these dramas here.</p>
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<p>And this is the result of not just multiculturalism, but it’s also, yeah, the result of having a very powerful jewish lobby in this country. I mean this jewish event, these weren’t nobody jews. These were actual serious Zionists, they were serious jewish leaders.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s a very fair assumption to make based off the full 10 minute footage that I’ve seen that these two went down there, these two Indian Muslims went down there with the intention to kill as many jews as possible. And I think that they also wounded about 40 other people.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And we don’t have the full list of names of all the people killed and wounded, although at least half of the names of those killed have been released already. And they appear, I think 11 out of the 12 that we have the names of do appear to be jewish. There’s one name there that appears to be potentially, &#8230; Is that one is that, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That guy, Peter Meagher. He was there as a freelance photographer to actually shoot some photos for the Hanukkah party, I believe. But that’s one White guy.</p>
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<p>I was looking at the bridge, and you can see. I mean, again, I don’t know what the like, how big was the field that the jews were in at the Hanukkah event there. But he fires this way, this way, that way. It looked like he was just shooting, like, everywhere on the beach that he basically could. That’s what it looked like to me. So first I was just kind of like:</p>
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<p>You know, because that could happen. But I don’t know. Maybe it was publicly announced or something.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It was a publicly announced event.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> By one of the, I think it’s a Chabad. I don’t know if I’m pronouncing it right.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Chabad. All in there.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. It was a publicly announced event, and it’s very obvious. Again, I don’t have any more information than the media have already put out, but I think based on the Facebook posts of this, I mean, one of the jews that was killed was a pretty serious rabbi that had just gone back from Israel, and he was signing munitions over in Israel.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, look, it was an international event. There were jews from France there, there was at least a couple from Israel, I think, and, of course, Arsen Ostrovsky was one of them. And, it’s a different mindset. Right. Like, if I’d be in a situation like this. I’d be like. I wouldn’t take a selfie at that point. I wouldn’t kind of push so hard politically.</p>
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<p>But then you realize that’s how motivated these people are, that if these pieces lined up the way that they did and he just happens to be there, what is it? A human rights lawyer out of Israel or whatever to fight anti-semitism in Australia, he happens to find themselves there again, you can have questions about it, I think, but you don’t have to go into conspiracy.</p>
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<p>But the point is, this is how they’re thinking. That’s what I want to say, Tom. If this happens, it’s immediately use it!:</p>
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<p>That’s what happens.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> When Carl Rittenhouse shot into a group of Antifa. When he was getting attacked, he took out two pedophiles.</p>
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<p>So when you, not randomly, but when you’re getting attacked by Antifa, and if you take down two of them, there’s a strong chance that they’re a pedophile, that they’re a sex offender. And I don’t think it’s suspicious that two Muslims planned a terror attack to kill a bunch of jews. And it happened to be, out of the couple hundred jews that were there, there happened to be human rights lawyers and like, huge Zionist advocates. And I think you’d find it in a crowd of two or three hundred jews, especially, &#8230; And these weren’t secular jews. That’s an important point, is this wasn’t a secular jewish meeting. This wasn’t like:</p>
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<p>These were jews from the local synagogue in Bondi. And Bondi is a relatively jewish area. So it’s a touristy area, and it has a huge amount of rich White people that live there, but there’s also quite a large jewish population there. There’s, like a jewish enclave there, a wealthy jewish enclave there.</p>
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<p>So there are some synagogues in Bondi, and this was one of the local synagogues that organized this. And they’re like:</p>
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<p>So, yeah, there’s really nothing suspicious about this except there’s one video of the old man missing, like, three or four shots. And I mean, I don’t think that’s overly suspicious. I mean, it’s at close range, but, I mean, adrenaline, who knows?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I haven’t seen anything other than that one video of him missing three shots. Like what? Yeah, it’s not Call of Duty. There’s just a lot of firearms experts on the Internet. There’s a lot of people that are just really quick to call:</p>
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<p>And it’s like, no, sometimes Muslims just kill people. And we have a really bad, you know, sort of subculture, I think, within the broader spectrum of White nationalism and dissident politics, where:</p>
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<p>And it’s like, this is just paranoia. Sometimes it’s just an actual terrorist attack. Now, if I’m presented with evidence that there was a Mossad connection, but all I’ve seen is AI, fake edits. Yeah, just Photoshop. I’ve just seen garbage! I’ve just seen the most low rent garbage! Psyop! You know, the real psyop is people thinking everything’s Mossad. I think that’s the real Mossad psyop.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, I figured. Right. Because I’m not sure if the other guy there, he, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Sorry. No, no, that’s the wrong one. No, no, sorry. It was a different head stomp. There was a different guy that kicked. So Baz kicked the father, old man in the head, but another younger guy, a fitter younger guy with tattoos, kicked the other one in the head.</p>
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<p>Okay, putting that to the side for now. It is what it is. We’re just looking at it for what it is. It’s then you come back to the official, you know, world in terms of the failure of the police, of the intelligence services. And the point of priority too, right? Because there is a kind of a, there’s blame here.</p>
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<p>Like as much resources and effort and time and ultimately then money and manpower is being spent on you and on your group and people around you. Joel <span style="color: #008000;">[Davis]</span> and <span style="color: #008000;">[Jacob]</span> Hersant, all these people around there to monitor you and to arrest you and keep an eye on you and spy on you go to the park to box and then there they are. They have men assigned to just watching you guys. Right? That kind of stuff.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Is this gonna force them to get their act together? Are they going to start taking the Muslim issues seriously? Is it going to be enough pressure from the jewish community that then that’s when they listen, right? When jews are murdered now they’re going to actually do something about this. What do you think they’re going to happen here, the next stage in this?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[21:01]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> In theory, you’re correct. In theory, when jews are affected, then you’ll see genuine pressure against Muslims. But what you’ll find is the jews are experts at transmuting any anti-Islamic energy into just being energy around anti-semitism in general. And you can already see the Labor Party for those that aren’t aware in America, the Labor Party here in Australia is kind of like our version of the Democrat Party. It’s the center-Left, so-called center-Left party. And you’ve got Tony Burke who’s the sort of, he heads the State Department. I think he’s the Home Affairs Minister. You’ve got the Prime Minister Albanese and you’ve got another guy who I’ve never seen on TV before, which is funny, they keep him hidden from TV. I think he’s the Defense Minister. His name is I think Murphy, and he is the gayest I have ever seen on Australian television. No, not Murphy. Marles. His name is Marles.*</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[*The minister for defence is the minister of state of the Commonwealth of Australia charged with overseeing the organization, implementation, and formulation of strategic policy in defence and military matters as the head of the Department of Defence. The minister for defence is responsible for the Australian Defence Organization, including the Australian Defence Force (ADF). The current defence minister is Richard Marles, who is also concurrently serving as deputy prime minister of Australia, having been selected by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in May 2022 following the 2022 Australian federal election.]</span></p>
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<p>And all three of them senior Labor Party guys, they are just getting roasted at the moment for their failure. And they are basically trying to transmute and put the blame back onto Nazis saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, our government has done the most to shut down hate speech. Our government has done the most to stop anti-semitism. Our government banned the Nazi salute. Our government has been going after these neo-Nazis!”</span></h3>
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<p>And on several occasions journalists have cut them off and have said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hang on a minute, what are you going to do about these Muslims?”</span></h3>
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<p>Because obviously even though the media are very controlled in their nature, it’s really hard for the media to hold the party line together that the Labor Party are trying to hold together, which is “<em>that this is a broad stroke anti-semitism issue</em>” and then transmute it from broad smoke, broad stroke anti-semitism onto:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look how much we’ve done to stop Nazis!”</span></h3>
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<p>And the mainstream media even covered the deportation of Matthew Gruter after <span style="color: #008000;">[before]</span> this terrorist attack. So those that don’t know who Matthew Gruter is, he’s a member of our organization. He was a South African national that was here on a work Visa who attended an “<em>expose jewish power</em>” rally. I think it was “<em>Abolish the jewish Lobby</em>” rally. And he was doxed and deported. He was raided within, I think a day or two of him being doxed and he was put in a camp and then deported from that camp.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so look, there’s nothing, the Australian government’s got no issues with putting people in camps and deporting them, which is interesting. And the media even mentioned:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, hang on a minute, this guy didn’t break any law and he was deported.”</span></h3>
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<p>And yet this son and this father were both, &#8230; Yeah, you’ve got the old video there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there’s a new video where they actually started talking about him in reference to the fact that these two terrorists had traveled in and out of the country on several occasions to potentially receive military training.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so you have people that are on a watch list for being involved with the Islamic State and training with the Islamic State and they own firearms. That’s another important point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is Tony Burke. This is one of the faggots that personally had Matthew Gruter deported. He’s going to be deported to the Congo. We’re going to make sure that this faggot here, Tony Burke, is deported to the Congo. And that’s Penny Wong, the Chinese foreign minister.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> What could go wrong! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But, yeah, Wong! Yeah. A former Australian Prime Minister:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like back in the 50s or 60s, I think it was Harold Holt, or whoever came after him said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”</span></h3>
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<p>Back then we were based and someone tried to bring their Asian war bride over from the Korean War and they denied access to the war bride or maybe they snuck her into the country. And then they were basically trying. They were trying to deport like, the one brown person that had been let into <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> the country that year! And yeah, the prime minister said something like “<em>two Wongs don’t make a White</em>” when the media asked him why he was being deported. And even though technically be one Wong.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, yeah, so where was I going? I mean, it’s just they’re trying to obviously transmute this atrocity or this terrorist attack into being another battering ram against White Australia, against Neo-Nazis, against anti-semitism in general. What can they do? I don’t think they can do much except hot air. They’re not going to be able to change the laws in any way that’s going to be able to stop us from operating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The way that the Labour Party has reacted to this has caused a huge amount of mainstream media condemnation. I mean, the mainstream media even played on national television, these Labor Party MPs, both state and federal MPs, rocking up to press conferences and getting booed by the public and getting booed by the jewish community.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s very rare! They don’t usually show that on television. So the Labor Party is definitely just getting smashed at the moment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But again, it’s that usual trick of “<em>jew Left and jew Right</em>”. And what they’re doing is they’re now really promoting the Liberal Party as being the only party that’s going to save the jews, and the Labor Party doesn’t have the balls to save the jews. And there’s a lot of layers to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So for example, the reason why these senior Labor Party like the Prime Minister, the Defense Minister and the Home affairs minister, the reason why they won’t call out the Muslims and why they’re trying to deflect it onto neo-Nazis is because the Labor Party can’t get elected into office without the Muslim vote and without the Indian vote. And these two were both Muslim and Indian!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[27:00]</span></p>
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<p>So they don’t want to talk about the fact that he was an Indian national and he should have been deported. Obviously we shouldn’t have any Indians in the country. But even by their own metrics and by their own standards of fit and proper person checks, which is another important thing to bring up, is that it is quite hard to get a gun license in Australia if you’re a political dissident. It is not hard to get a gun license. The way that Australian gun laws work. Because I know Americans love saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You guys gave up your guns. You, Australia doesn’t have any guns!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not true at all! And that’s just like what we don’t have is civilian access to military style firearms like semi-autos. Yeah, we don’t have access to semi-autos unless there’s a caveat to that, which is unless you’re what’s called a primary producer, or a professional hunter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you have a contract, even if it’s just as low as like, I don’t know, $5,000 a year to contract shoot on people’s property, to shoot pests. Even if those pests are like foxes or something, or rabbits. You can get access to an AR15 in this country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s not true that we don’t have guns in this country. We have quite high gun ownership as a nation. And to get a CatAB which is basically rim fires and center fires, but in bolt action or pump. So we can get pump and bolt action. Like the rifle that this terrorist was using is called a Cat B rifle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what that means is it&#8217;s a bolt action rifle, it’s center fired, high powered and there’s not even a magazine capacity on it. Usually when you buy the rifles they come with a five or ten round magazine. It’s not actually illegal to own larger magazines. It doesn’t look good when the police come to inspect your safe. Which again, if you’re not a political dissident. It will very rarely happen. Most licensed firearm owners might only get a safe inspection once every five or 10 years. And it’ll just be two local cops. They’ll knock on your door, they’ll usually call you 24 hours beforehand and they’ll say</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, I’m Sergeant so and so from the local police station, I need to come check your guns. I’ll be there tomorrow at nine o’ clock in the morning.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you obviously make sure you’ve got all your shit squared away. They rock up to your house, they knock on your door, you let the two cops in, they have a look at your safe, they talk to you about what the weather’s doing and you know, how the Labor Party’s gay and try to be a friend and then they leave. And that’s basically what the local firearm section of the cops do. Because they know that every gun owner is all the vast, vast majority of gun owners are Right-wing and they’re just patriots, but they don’t have any views outside of just very common sense, low level patriotism and gun ownership or libertarianism. And there’s really very little dramas there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you can get that rifle that he’s shooting there, you can get that by just going down to the police station, filling out some paperwork, doing a one day course on firearm safety and then applying to become a member of any gun club or getting a Crown hunting permit. So a permit to hunt on Crown land.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Do you have to be a member of a gun club?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah. Same as Sweden, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You can’t own a rifle in Australia for the purpose of self defense.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You have to either you either own it because you target shoot at a gun club or you own it because you go hunting on Crown land. And all you need to do is, I think to hunt on Crown land, I think you pay 50 bucks a year or something. I used to be a licensed and registered gun owner. Obviously when I got involved in dissident politics I sold my guns and transferred them into other people’s names, just so that I didn’t have any ownership of guns. Because I could predict that they would use that as an opportunity to raid my house. And I’d heard of people that were involved in dissident politics, they went from never having a gun safe inspection to having like multiple gun safe inspections per year. And it was never just the two local cops. There would be two local cops that would come down and they’d have a weird look on their face like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, hi!”</span></h3>
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<p>And they would rock up unannounced. That was another thing. Whereas normally they would always call you. And they would have six guys in suits, you know, rock up with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, who are these people? What?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we’re just here for the gun inspection. Oh, what police station are you from? Oh, we’re from the city. Oh, what are you doing here? Oh, we’re just having a look.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they’re not looking at your guns, what they’re doing. The two cops are looking at your guns, making sure that it’s all stored properly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The other six cops are walking through your house, going through your drawers because they’re the STASI* and they’re going through your bookshelf, they’re going through your drawers, they’re going through your cupboards. And until you tell them to stop and get out of your house, they’ll go through everything. They might even ask if they can go through your phone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Stasi: Official state security service of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) The Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, was the state security service and secret police of East Germany from 1950 to 1990. The function of the Stasi in East Germany resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union, ⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And if you’re an idiot, you’d be like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, okay.”</span></h3>
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<p>So there’s a lot of naive people that get screwed over.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But yeah, I’ve never seen anyone that’s a face doxed nationalist be allowed to keep their guns.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[31:57]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So that’s when we talk about system failure, the government does not let face doxed nationalists own guns, no matter how tame you make your talking points.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet these guys they can get up to what they’re up to and at no stage do they, because the law is very subjective. We don’t have the right to own guns. What we have is what’s called a “<em>fit and proper person</em>” check, which is completely subjective. There’s no legal definition of that. There isn’t. I actually went to the Magistrates Court to prove I was a fit and proper person because they try to take my, &#8230; I used to be trained to be an Armor Guard. I never actually did Armor Guard work, I did unarmed security work, but I was trained to be an Armor Guard, so I could have bought a pistol if I wanted to because I was trained to be an Armor Guard and I had an a pistol license, even though I never owned a pistol and I had issues. I did a pistol shoot one time and the police called me and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, you’re not allowed to do a pistol shoot, you’re not fitting proper.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes, I am. I have a gun license.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Even though I handed my guns in and stuff. I still had my gun license. And they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, you got to go to the Magistrates Court and sort this out immediately or you’re going to get charged.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I went down the Magistrates Court and did like, it was called like a section 109, fit and proper person thingy. And the Magistrates Court confirmed that I was in fact fit and proper. And I was like, “<em>phew</em>”, you know what I mean? Like, kind of wiped my brow. This is really early days when I was really early involved in politics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was a big stress, like I was going to potentially, and I had a clean criminal record back then, so I was really stressed about having a firearms offense. But I had the court confirm I was fit and proper. And yeah, these guys should not have been able to be classed as fit and proper.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right. Well, that’s the thing. Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Completely subjective.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, yeah, obviously. Right. Unfortunately, that’s just those other conditions now with these people in charge of the governments.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Bondi terrorists given gun license after ASIO investigated son’s, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Sorry to interrupt. It’s pronounced ‘Ay Zee Oh’.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> ASIO investigated son’s Islamic State links.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So again, here’s another interesting thing to interrupt. Sorry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when the labor government came to power. Sorry, when they were re-elected, they. When they did all their like, banning of the Nazi salute stuff. Banned the Nazi salute, they banned the swastika, but in the same legislation they actually decriminalized the ISIS flag.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Really?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So the Liberal Party made the ISIS flag a terror symbol and they made it illegal. And the Labor Party changed the legislation when they came to power and banned the swastika and then decriminalized the ISIS flag. So you can own an ISIS flag in Australia, but you can’t, &#8230; Sorry. You can publicly display an ISIS flag in Australia, but you cannot publicly display a swastika.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Huh, Interesting!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. So that’s pretty funny. They didn’t need to do that. Like this ISIS flag was already banned and they didn’t need to touch that legislation. Why did they decriminalize it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, it’s a feature maybe not a bug. So I don’t know!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s a huge Muslim voting bloc in Australia and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Obviously you’ve got an understanding of European politics like Nordic politics. But most Americans in the dissident Right, I think they’re really blind to the Islamic issue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I noticed after the Aug 31st rally which was that big March for Australia rally where I spoke in front of, I don’t know, somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 people. You know, is it from the TRS? Is that what they’re called? The Right Stuff? Eric Striker.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I saw Eric Striker, &#8230; Well, I was in jail, so someone mailed it to me. But while I was in jail, I got mail. And it was a screenshot of like an Eric Striker tweet saying that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m like a judeophile and that I love jews and that you know, I’m against Muslims because I love jews.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And just crazy shit! Like, I’ve been an anti-semite, a public anti-semite for probably six or so years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> You’re a proven anti-semite! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I am <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> a proven anti-semite and everything. But he was dissecting that part of my speech where I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“When the people waving the Palestinian flags and the Aboriginal flags came charging at us, we fought back.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And I haven’t had a chance to clarify that on stream. That actually happened. I haven’t done a response to that, but I want people to know that actually happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this idea that we should not fight back against Palestinians when they’re punching us in the head or communists waving Palestinian flags so that we can one struggle with them against the Zionists, that’s fucking crazy! We’re in Australia. I’m not in the Middle East. Like, I’m not picking a side on the Middle East in the Middle East. I’m picking Australia, in Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So to be fair to the Palestinians, to be fair to the Palestinians and the Arabs to give some context to that, usually they rally every weekend in Australia, in Melbourne, in Sydney and Brisbane, there’s a big rally of Arabs every single weekend in the CBD. And it’s usually 3/4 or 7/8 Muslim, you know, Arabs and 1/4 or 1/8 communists that are trying to subvert it and control them. And what they’ve done is they’ve created a brown alliance where they’re waving Abo flags and they’re waving Palestinian flags because they’re trying to convert the Muslims to being on the side of the communists for the Aboriginal issue.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[37:46]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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</div>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not anti-zionists. We’re anti-colonialists! And the Zionists are a problem because they’re colonialists. It’s not because they’re Zionists. It’s because they’re colonialists. And because they’re jewish nationalists.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which I guess is what zionism is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s not a specific form of anti-semitism. They’re trying to, instead of it being counter jewish or counter anti-semitism, the communist groups are trying to convert all these Arabs to the cause. Now they’ve been very unsuccessful broadly, but they have converted a small percentage.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so on that day, on August 31st, the vast majority of Arabs didn’t show up. The vast majority. So normally that weekend rally, that pro-Palestine rally, is normally, as I said, 7/8 Arab, 1/8th communist. On that day it was almost the other way around. It was probably 3/4 communist, 1/4 Arab. So the vast, vast majority of Arabs. And we had leaks because we’ve got people in their group chats to keep an eye on. We had leaks from their group chats saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We ’re not going down, this is the reason why we’re not going down, don’t attend, we’re just going to have a week off. We still care about the cause, obviously, but it’s not a good idea. We don’t want a front on confrontation with March for Australia because it doesn’t achieve what we want to achieve, which is we want Australians having sympathy for Palestine. And so if we let the March for Australia people rally this weekend and wave the Aussie flags, we should stay the hell away from them so that it doesn’t interfere with our kind of our optics.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They were optics cucking. They were like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not going to rally this week.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And so the vast, vast majority of Arabs did not come down. They didn’t want that confrontation. But some still came down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so it’s just crazy, like, yes, and it’s similar to this Bondi incident. So the context of the Bondi incident is, did he wave away most Arabs and most White Australians? You can see in that 10 minute footage the two terrorists on several occasions wave away, the young guy at least, waved away heaps of Aussies and Arabs that were swearing at him, that were carrying on, that were getting close to them. There was a lot of people, a lot of Aussies that were coming up from the other side, not from the beach, but from the other side that were saying like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are you doing? Stop what you’re doing!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like that kind of rhetoric. And there was a bunch of women screaming like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh my God, stop!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like that’s gonna help! And he was just, you could see him, he’s like waving him away. He’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Piss off! Go away!”</span></h3>
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<p>And a lot of the guys like having a go at him had beards, whether they were Aussies or whether they’re Arabs. So obviously he wasn’t going to shoot anyone that was like Arab looking with a beard. So he did pick his target, that’s very clear. But that doesn’t mean that White Australians weren’t shot on the day.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So again, again, I’m getting ankle bit by individuals who are saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, he put out a post about White Australians, but this was an attack on jews.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s like, I’m aware that it was predominantly an attack on jews and the media have been talking non-stop about jews since it happened and our responsibility is White Australians. I don’t have a responsibility for jews, I have a responsibility for White Australians.</p>
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<p>So I think it’s very important that we try to retake some of that narrative because the politicians have said nothing about how this is an attack on Australians, let alone White Australians.</p>
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<p>Obviously the politicians aren’t going to say this is an attack on White Australians.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But I mean, I saw one of the opposition leaders come out with a post just today and, sorry, it was a video, and he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This terrorist attack is an attack on the jewish community. And although it’s disrespectful to Australians this is the primary issue is that it’s an attack on the jewish community and it’s about hatred and we have to stop hatred of jews.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s like, hang on a minute. Disrespectful to Australians? Like there’s a little bit more than disrespectful to Australians! Yeah, I mean the idea that shooting at Australians is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s disrespectful, but it’s not driven by hate of Australia and Australia’s values. It’s driven by hatred of jews!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah. So the call that you’ve seen then is obviously, yes, the jewish community seems to be mobilizing around, targeting Albanese and the Labor government, obviously that they want them out. I think I even heard, is it Sharri Markson* on Sky News, the jewish host there? She was talking about how Albanese had, I forget exactly what the word is. I’m paraphrasing, but it’s like “<em>have emboldened or aided Hamas</em>” or something in Australia. Is there any truth to that? Or is it like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay, yeah, give me your take on that.</p>
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<p>* Sharri Markson (born 8 March 1984) is a Jewish Australian journalist and author. She is investigations editor at The Australian and host of the Sky News Australia program Sharri, which airs 8-9 PM Monday to Thursday. She is the winner of numerous awards in journalism, including two Walkley Awards.]</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[42:32]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The Right-wing jews in Australia are very connected obviously with the Liberal Party. And the Liberal Party has never been doing worse in the history of its existence in the Australian political spectrum.</p>
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<p>So what’s happening in Australia in the last four or five years is the Liberal Party has gone from a serious contender at winning the 51% of the, not the primary vote, but the total vote. When you get all the preferencing schemes or the minor parties or the satellite parties all funnel all their votes into the Liberal Party so they can win the 51%. They went from a serious contender to that, to basically total party death. I mean the Liberal Party is on its way to becoming no longer being one of the big two. And Australian politics is fracturing on the Right.</p>
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<p>And so the jews, the Zionist jews especially, are absolutely petrified that they’re losing that conservative Right, You know, the control, what’s it called? The gatekeeper. They’re losing their gate-keeping party. The “<em>Containment Right</em>”, sorry is the word I’m looking for. They’re losing control of the Containment Right.</p>
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<p>And so the jews are shifting between One Nation which is the slightly more Right-wing party, led by a redhead lady called Pauline Hanson, who was fish and chip shop lady that said racist things about Asians and now she’s like the biggest judeophile in the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they’re shifting support towards One Nation and the Right-wing faction within the Liberal Party. And there is truth to the fact that the Labor Party has aided and abetted Hamas in the sense that the Labor Party gains a lot of its vote from the Muslim blocs and does everything it can to not upset the Muslims. And when this war in Palestine was going on, the Labor Party was in a very difficult situation because a lot of the people that make up the Labor Party are, &#8230; And also their main alliance, which is with the Greens, which is a very Left-wing party that’s very pro-Palestine. The Labor Party are caught between a rock and a hard place where they’re really pro-jewish but they kind of have to be anti-Israel. Similar to like the Jeremy Corbyns, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I was gonna say, it’s like UK. Even Sweden has that dynamic too with the Social Democrats. They’re extremely in with the Muslim faction and trying to bring them aboard and they’re kind of infiltrating the party and they are actually taking more power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the kind of conservative opposition is therefore kind of forced to take an even more pro-stance. Even the Sweden, Democrats were like led into the fold of like being unofficial ties with Israel. They went to a trip over there recently and they were of course so happy about it. But just to reiterate that point. You are right that there’s a lot of people in America that don’t understand the Muslim dynamic, that they just think that Muslims are simply, &#8230; Has it been used like that? Of course! I mean, even opening the borders partially to Muslims. Right. Have been kind of a geostrategic demographic plan, if you will, right from the War on Terror with the neocons, which displaced a lot of these people. They used that as the excuse and now we have to let in Muslims.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there’s a sure, there’s a functionality in that. Not every one, obviously, but some doesn’t seem to understand just how big of a problem that that is and that the Muslim organized community actually is. And they just think them as pawns of Mossad and Israeli interests essentially. Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And also the dynamic in Australia is very different to America. So in America you have predominantly a Mexican and an African problem.</p>
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<p>And so you have whole suburbs taken over by Mexicans or you have whole suburbs taken over by Africans. We don’t have that in Australia. There’s no suburb in Australia that’s taken over by Mexicans and there’s very few suburbs, like there’s probably only two or three suburbs in Melbourne and maybe one or two suburbs in Sydney that are taken over by Africans. But what we do have is we have entire regions of our cities, like we’re talking 3, 4, 5, 6 suburbs at a time, taken over by Arabs. And we have huge Islamic, you know, voting blocks. We have huge Islamic organizations. The Muslims are very organized. Like I used to work in the northern suburbs just as a casual worker when I was doing the residential care. And there was a resi home in the northern suburbs and I was looking after some drug addict teenagers, and you know, taking them to play footy and stuff like that. And they were the only White kids in the whole area.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, there was three mosques in that suburb. And I’m telling you there was probably 5,000 Muslims per mosque, all fighting age men, all fit, all healthy. It was an army. There was probably, there was like more than a division, more than a division, like a World War II size division, like probably 15,000 fighting Muslims in that one suburb.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I mean, we’re talking about guys aged between 18 and 40 you know, on the steroids train at the kickboxing gym. You know, I mean, like when you talk about “<em>tribe and train</em>”, they were organized on another level! And so and they’re political, they’re religious, they’re not low IQ niggers running around shooting each other with guns. They’re much more intelligent. They’re probably like averaging a 95 IQ, which is in that zone where they can organize effectively in very large numbers. The Africans can’t do that. So, if there’s societal collapse, if there’s a breakdown, you’ve got potentially tens of thousands of Muslim fighters as a fifth column in your country, that’s a way bigger threat than just like the chaos and anarchy of a hundred thousand Africans just in this city.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think some Americans probably do understand it. They might live in particular areas and they might be observing what happens in Europe and our situation is closer to Europe than it is to America’s.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[48:41]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right, exactly, exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. With the added factor of the Chinese and the Indians. So yeah, they’re obviously less militant, but they’re equally as organized at an economic level.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, exactly! It’s a major problem. And they’re kind of there’s this alliance, as you said, between the, usually the Labor government, the Left-wing governments and the Muslim faction kind of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m very familiar with it now that’s played out in Sweden. It’s very detrimental and yeah, so basically it’s a multi-pronged attack. It’s Chinese, it’s Indians, it’s Muslims, it’s jews. It’s like everyone!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Social cohesion. It’s social cohesion.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> That’s what the so the government. I’ve never heard this word used so much in the last six months. It’s like they got the patch, like they got the software patch, they got the software update. Every media station, every politician on all sides, Liberal, Labor, all they talk about now is “<em>social cohesion</em>”. Every press conference, “<em>social cohesion</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Interesting!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Every arrest, social cohesion! Every law change they’re trying to make:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We got to improve social cohesion!”</span></h3>
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<p>And you know when ASIO gets up on the TV, like Mike Burgess, when he gets up on the press releases:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Social cohesion! Social cohesion! Social cohesion!”</span></h3>
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<p>It is the running meme of 2025 here in Australia is the government will not stop talking about social cohesion, which really is about public trust in the institutions, public trust in the government and the fact that we’re in a multipolar society, that guns or no guns, people are breaking away from each other and everyone is getting way more racist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All people, all Whites, Indians, Muslims, Chinese people, we’re going into that mode where boundaries between suburbs are becoming more clear and White flight is becoming far more obvious. And, yeah, people are starting to stick to their own areas more, which in America you’ve probably had for a really long time. You’ve had probably that breakdown in social cohesion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But here in Australia, we had this, like crazy salt and pepper multiculturalism where every suburb just had a light Dusting of high IQ, non-White people that we just stole from the Third World. But now we’ve got all the foot soldiers here. So now the social cohesion’s properly broken down now.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Do you think they intend to actually use it in the way we use it, or did we have to integrate them, then better? Is that the kind of the, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> No, they’re not even bothering with that’s the brilliant part of it. Their strategy is so ineffective, they’re not even bothering to talk about assimilation anymore. They gave up on assimilation about five years ago. I haven’t really heard that word used by any of the parties, except maybe One Nation. They’re probably the only one still trying to die on the hill of assimilation, which is good. I’m glad that there’s a controlled opposition in that area so that they can die on the hill of assimilation, because it won’t work.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> And that’s Pauline Hanson.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, it’s Pauline Hanson.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. So she’s gone from a pretty explicitly White nationalist position where it’s like her maiden speech, she said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Australia is being threatened by being flooded with Asians!”</span></h3>
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<p>And the whole mainstream media just mocked her. They didn’t argue against it. They just mocked her and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“That that’s insane! That’s ridiculous!”</span></h3>
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<p>And this is in 1996. And she was right. And now that she’s right, instead of doubling down on her position that Australia’s now flooded with Asians, she’s now got Asians and Indians in her party. And she’s saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, but these are assimilated. They’re assimilated Asians!”</span></h3>
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<p>And so she’s gone like, she’s doubling down on Civnattery and the assimilation method.</p>
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<p>Whereas the Liberal Party and Labor Party. The Liberal Party has two factions. It has the Right-wing and Left-wing in it. So it’s meant to be a Right-wing party, but it’s actually been taken over by Left-wingers.</p>
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<p>And I’m not just talking about the Overton Window shifting. It actually has had a coup, like an internal coup. And basically the Right-wing faction was more aligned with that One Nation rhetoric. Like they want to maintain the assimilation lie, whereas the Left-wing faction:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, that’s racist! You can’t say ‘assimilation’ because that implies that our culture is better than theirs. So they shouldn’t be assimilating into our culture.”</span></h3>
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<p>So that’s fucking awesome! That’s great news. I don’t want these people assimilating or attempting to assimilate.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> No.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And the ones that have attempted are being outnumbered now by the ones that don’t even give a fuck and don’t have any respect for our culture and society. And so, yeah, social cohesion is at an all time low.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s basically the situation in Australian politics. And now they’re calling for deportations, but they’re doing it in a very soft way. They basically want to try to just more of the same. They want to deport and block anti-semites coming in the country. And the rhetoric is not really around like anything like Donald Trump where he’s talking about people from shithole countries. That rhetoric is not on the menu here in Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right. Yep. Nope. Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Pauline Hanson’s broached it a little bit, but nowhere at the same level.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So basically the Right-wing in the United States or Donald Trump, like the MAGA camp is more Right-wing than the party that’s broken away from. Not to sound too complicated, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> but like One Nation has basically tripled in size in the last couple of years because the Liberal Party, after there was a Left-wing coup in it, is just in shambles.</p>
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<p>And so I guess this leads into the next point which is about building up our party and the kind of support that we’re seeing.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Exactly! No, I want to get into that. And guys, I’ll get to some of your chats and questions for Tom here too in a moment. I appreciate the support there too. We’ll get to that.</p>
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<p>Just quick, regarding the gun there’s a couple of things in terms of the fallout here. I think you have the next election in 2028 and again, I’m not staring myself too blind on this, but it’s just an interesting dynamic in terms of like will the current government been able to push through then a couple of things when it comes to additional gun laws or maybe then restricting these, even these hunting license, you know, hunting licenses that they’re handing out right now! And what do you think will happen in regards to the hate this was one headline from GB News here:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Racial Hatred laws must be tightened in the wake of Bondi beach massacre!”</span></h3>
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<p>So are these the two main things that the Labor Party will deal with, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes. So Jack Eltis, the state leader <span style="color: #008000;">[of NSN]</span> for New South Wales, put out a very good post recently where he basically explained that it’s sad that the government is going to take away more rights of freedoms or privileges of the Australian population, but it’s ultimately a net positive in the sense that Australians do need to get shocked into reality. They need to wake up from their slumber and realize that no matter what happens, good, bad, indifferent, the result it’s going to be mutated into taking away their rights. That there’s never going to be a solution to deporting all these Muslims. There’s never going to be a solution to stopping the level of crime. Any law that’s passed is just going to affect you. And that these laws are constantly just, yeah, mutated to affect White Australians when White Australians are not the cause of the problem.</p>
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<p>So I know a lot about gun laws in Australia because I used to be really interested in it as a subject prior to really dedicating myself to White nationalism. Really there’s not much they can do, there’s not much the government can do except hot air. What they will do if they want some sort of nominal victory is they will ban all the niche firearms that aren’t bolt action.</p>
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<p>So at the moment in Australia we’ve got a whole bunch of firearms that kind of circumvent the law in the sense that they aren’t actually bolt action rifles, but you can get them on a Cat B license, which anyone can get if you join a hunting club, which is what this young Arab, this young half Indian Muslim dude did. He just joined, I think the Zavasta Hunting Club, which is like Serbian hunting club. It’s just connected to the Serbian community. Not that they’ve got any implication in this. That must have been his local hunting club. He joined that club, therefore he gets access to a Cat B.</p>
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<p>But he didn’t use a strictly bolt action rifle in the attack. He used a straight, what’s called a “<em>straight pull</em>”, which, Beretta make one, I think Ticker makes one. There’s a whole bunch of gun companies that make niche rifles, but they’re always very expensive. A bolt action rifle in Australia would cost somewhere between six hundred and twelve hundred dollars. Like a decent one, or a half decent one. The straight pulls are usually the more bougie end of the market. Like two and a half, $3,000. Three and a half thousand dollars. So rifles are very expensive in Australia.</p>
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<p>And what they would do to get a nominal victory is they would change the law and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Straight pulls, they’re rapid fire bolt actions, they’re too fast! And we can’t let people get them!”</span></h3>
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<p>So that means the next terror attack will be like 20% slower, right? Instead of 15 people being killed, maybe 14 or 13 people will be killed.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So just send more cops and the amount of kills will be the same. Or more female cops.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Well, shit, one of the female cops almost killed just a random Arab on the bridge.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, of course, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> yeah, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So the death toll almost got higher! You know, insert the Sam Hyde clip. Fuck!</p>
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<p>Yeah, they scare me genuinely, especially when they’re at the door.</p>
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<p>But yeah, I’ve had a male cop tackle me like with his gun out. And I wasn’t in fear at all! I was just like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m not resisting, I’m not resisting!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like, I was just chill.</p>
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<p>But when I see a female cop with a gun out, I freak out! I’m like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is it. Hail Odin! Like it’s over. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Yeah, take me!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Take you to Valhalla? Yeah, if a female cop shoots you, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The Valkyries have come to take me! Oh no. Because they’re just so scary, because they’re shaking and shit! Like they get the brief. Like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s a terrorist! He’s a maniac! Be on guard!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And you say that to a woman with a gun before they’re like kicking your door. And fuck! It’s like they’re on speed. Like their pupils are so dilated its scary.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh gosh!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The look in their eyes is scary. Yeah, it’s like you can’t tell where they’re predator or prey. It’s a mixture of both. They’re prey with a gun. It’s crazy!</p>
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<p>But anyway, I’ll stop with the &#8220;misogyny&#8221;, because it’s not the point of the stream.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[59:13]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Let’s have some more. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Come on! Okay. Yeah. So you know, again you have the Port Arthur massacre.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You know that definitely is very suspicious!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, I mean, undoubtedly. Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s questions and it’s not because one’s a Muslim and one’s not. It’s not about that. The Port Arthur massacre is extremely suspicious and there’s a lot of good docos that have been made on it. An associate, I wouldn’t say an associate that might get him in trouble, but someone I’ve actually met before in the alternative sort of political space a decade ago, a guy called Paul Moder*, he actually made a documentary called Wasp on the Port Arthur massacre. And he spent about 10 years researching the Port Arthur massacre. And yeah, I won’t go into detail because I don’t want to do a conspiracy stream today, but it’s very obvious that what they’re telling us about that situation is just not true.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Film director and actor Paul Moder has embarked on a cinematic retelling of the Port Arthur Massacre, which goes into full production 2019, under the title of WASP. But unlike the current wave of “<em>true crime</em>”, Moder attempts to unpick the official version of events and create a rare piece of Australian revisionist-history cinema. Well before it’s made, WASP is already very controversial, but it continues a lineage of pessimism and historical revisionism that started in late 1960s with films like Blow Up, Parallax View and reaching crescendo with Oliver Stone’s JFK in 1991. https:// www.pureshitauscinema.com/interviews/moder.html]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah. And then end result of that, a lot of the guns were, it was a buyback program. Right. That happened after.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So it’s a bit misunderstood. Even in Australia, most people don’t really know what happened. So John Howard* <span style="color: #008000;">[former Aust PM]</span> passed laws saying you can’t own semi-autos anymore, again unless you’ve got this special Cat C, Cat D license, whereas you used to get all firearms all on the same license.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* John Winston Howard (born 26 July 1939) is an Australian former politician who served as the 25th prime minister of Australia from 1996 to 2007, holding office as leader of the Liberal Party of Australia. His eleven-year tenure as prime minister is the second-longest in Australian history, after that of Sir Robert Menzies. Since the death of Bob Hawke in 2019, Howard is the oldest living Australian former prime minister. Howard was born in Sydney and studied law at the University of Sydney. He was a commercial lawyer before entering Parliament.]</span></p>
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<p>And I think some states, they didn’t even have licenses. I’ve heard stories of people, they could go into Kmart and buy a gun and like just buy it off the shelf and just take it on the train and go home with it. I’ve actually spoken to people in person that have said that they used to be able to, when they’re 18, they could walk down to the sports shop and buy a gun, get on a train, take the gun home on the train. No one would even blink an eye. And that was the Australia they grew up in. So some really similar to how America used to be. But after Port Arthur they changed the law so you can’t have semi-autos and they Instituted more licensing sort of schematics.</p>
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<p>But what they did was they did it, they did a buyback program, but the stats of it are not publicly known. They’re publicly available, but they only got about 700,000 rifles in that first year. Obviously they got a few more later on, but they only got back about 700,000 rifles.</p>
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<p>And I think 4% of the rifles they got back in the buyback were semi-autos. And to put that into context, 600,000 SKS is, were imported into the country in 1995 and 1996. So the year that the gun buyback happened, more SKS came into the country than SKS were handed over.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, interesting.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Really any rifle that was handed over, almost.</p>
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<p>So yeah, there’s a lot of law in this country about, there’s a whole generation of guys in their 70s and 80s that have all just got like crates of SKS is buried on their farms. Now, I’ve personally never seen it, I’ve never witnessed it, never touched one, never heard of one. They all got lost in fishing trips as far as, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Tragic boating accident!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes, tragic boating accidents. I got no knowledge of anything like of the sort! But there’s a lot of like folklore about those hundreds of thousands of SKS that came in the country in 1996. As I said, only 4% of the 700,000 rifles that were handed back were semi-autos. And actually they’re not SKSs. They were actually SKKs.</p>
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<p>So they’re like a Chinese SKS that could take AK magazines. And very occasionally there’ll be a shooting between like bikies and the cops. And you’ll see it’s full automatic fire coming out of one of these SKKs, shooting the helicopters or something crazy like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, but again that’s all very old, like, …</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’ll be in the Cosmoline oil* or whatever in the crates in the ground and 99% of them be forgotten about if the bikies don’t get their hands on them. But the Arabs actually have AKs and Glocks, all these like organized crime groups. There’s a whole shipment of Glocks that went missing years ago.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Cosmoline is the genericized trademark for a common class of brown, wax-like petroleum-based corrosion inhibitors, typically conforming to United States, Military Standard MIL-C-11796C Class 3. They are viscous when freshly applied, have a slight fluorescence, and solidify over time with exposure to air. The main ingredient in cosmoline is aliphatic petroleum solvent, which is volatile and evaporates over time.]</span></p>
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<p>There’s been two terrorist attacks on Australian soil in the past by Africans of all things. And they got AKs from the local mosque. So there’s a huge amount of illegal firearms to that have been imported in the country since 1996 that the Arabs and Muslims have control over. Because they’re involved with organized crime.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Correct? Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> They control the vast majority of organized crime in Australia, similar to Sweden.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep, that’s right. Exactly! Yeah. Guns came in. I figured it’d be a little bit more complicated with Australia being an island as opposed to the EU. You can basically just drive in with them from like some Balkan country or something.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But they get them in the same way they get drugs and they just get them in on shipping container. If a whole bunch get caught, they don’t care. They can bring in a thousand at a time.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, they’re the arming themselves and they’re being allowed to also. Yeah, I mean, let’s be honest. It’s a feature and not a bug, I think, to be honest.</p>
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<p>Okay, so the next thing that we’re going. Yeah, okay, so Hate Speech laws. Anything else you want to say about that? What do you think? So they banned the swastika and the roman, you know, things like this. What’s next here? What do you think you’re looking at?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’ll just be more funding to this new task force they’ve built, the AFP, Australian Federal Police, which is basically trying to convert itself into the FBI.</p>
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<p>So the Federal Police, my understanding of the Federal Police for the last couple decades has really focused on organized crime, has focused on importing and shipping like drugs into the country or guns into the country. It’s been focused on white-collar crime as well.</p>
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<p>So really big frauders, really big scammers, kind of Wall Street crime, white-collar crime, people stealing money that work at banks. I know there was some young guys that got done with some sort of banking fraud scheme. And that’s all AFP. The state police don’t handle a lot of that. More expertise crime. That’s really what the feds have been doing for a long time. And what they’re converting the Federal Police into is. And it’s very clever the way the government do it. They basically have control of the budget. And so they’ll say:</p>
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<p>And so they shut down these departments and then like they do the budget and then the next year they go:</p>
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<p>And then it’s like:</p>
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<p>So there’s an article that came out today. So when the ASIO director general, Mike Burgess*, came into position in charge of ASIO, back in 2019, they fired 10 of the most senior, kind of staff of ASIO, And they would have done the same thing. They would have said:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Michael Paul Burgess is an Australian intelligence official, and the current Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO). Prior to his appointment to this role on 16 September 2019, Burgess was director-general of the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). Burgess was born in England, and immigrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1973 at the age of seven. He was the first member of his family to study in higher education, receiving a degree in electrical engineering from the South Australian Institute of Technology in 1988.]</span></p>
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<p>That’s what they’re doing. They’re trying to do that with defense at the moment. But really it’s always a coup. And it’s known in the Australian inner circle as being “<em>The Red Wedding</em>”. That’s what they called it. It’s like the Red Wedding where they basically couped and they killed off, they retired, they forced retired like 10 of the most senior counter terrorist experts at ASIO. That were probably like racist Right-wingers that were like they’re the post 9/11 intelligence people* that are like:</p>
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<p>And they got rid of those guys. And that was around the time this Bondi shooter was being investigated by ASIO, So what you have is then you had the Brennan Tarrant incident <span style="color: #008000;">[in New Zealand]</span> happen. You had the top 10 senior staff of ASIO getting fired.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Who would well know that 9/11 was a ZOG false flag engineered from Israel. See ALSO LINKS below.]</span></p>
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<p>And then you have the new funding come in after they’re getting fired. And that new funding came in, and 40% of their budget now is Right-wing extremism. And the budget for these state police forces, Federal Police forces and ASIO varies anywhere from 40 to 70% of their budget of their task force, of their manpower. Really, that’s what it means, is dedicated to anti-semitism from the Right-wing perspective, as opposed to from the Muslim perspective or just terrorism from a Right-wing perspective, as a set of terrorism from a Muslim perspective.</p>
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<p>And so what we would be looking at is more funding to these task force. So that would mean more offices, that would mean a bigger budget, that would mean more raids, that would mean more intimidation, that would mean more charges are going to get laid.</p>
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<p>And so it just means that people just got to be more, I guess, sensitive with their rhetoric. There are things that I have said in the past, back in 2018, 2019, that I, after those reforms came in, there’s no way I would say them in 2022, 2023.</p>
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<p>And likewise, there are things that I’ve said online, 2023 that I just simply would not say today. And it’s not because I’m a, it’s not because I’m fucking optics cucking and:</p>
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<p>It’s like, no, it’s just that I don’t want to go to jail for two years for fucking saying the wrong thing on the Internet. I’m okay with going to jail for a couple months for punching people in the head. That’s cool. But I’m not okay with going to jail for two, &#8230; Like what’s happening to Joel <span style="color: #008000;">[Davis]</span> right now? I mean, what did he say? “<em>Rhetorical rape</em>”?</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> That’s crazy! And he’s done like two months now, so he’s done almost as much time, &#8230; He’s got a bailout coming up on the 23rd, so that’ll be what, a month in jail or more? It’d be almost six weeks in jail!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Have you spoken to him recently?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> No, I haven’t because he has to call me. So it takes a long time to get names and numbers added to the callers. So I haven’t received a phone call from him unfortunately. But I expect one soon. But I’ve spoken obviously with the lawyer and there’s obviously confidentiality so he can’t go into detail, but he can pass on regards and tell me about his general well being.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I have spoken to people that have spoken to him. But yeah, he seems to be doing okay. He’s just frustrated. And as you would be.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, he missed his birth of his son, I believe.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. His first child.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> And they’ve been going after his girlfriend as well. Some headlines out, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Are you in contact with anyone else around him and how they’re dealing with it, the situation?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, my missus and his missus are in contact. Obviously she needs a bit of space with everything that’s going on. But you know, she’s reached out and yeah, we’re in contact with her. She’s got a little bit of support in Sydney from some of the partners over there and also her family are quite supportive.</p>
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<p>So yeah, it’s disgusting that that journalist that went and harassed her. I think it was like two or three days after she gave birth where she’s putting nappies in the bin and they’ve got a private investigator out the front taking photos of her. That same journalist came to my family, my in law’s house and twisted words that my family said through a fly screen door.</p>
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<p>And they also went to Matthew Gruter’s house as well and Matthew Gruter’s wife had just given birth as well. I think they had a two week old baby. And yeah, when they went to my family, my in-laws house, we’ve got a brand new baby as well. Like we’re not brand new but like a six month old baby and a toddler. And they’re attacking, they’re coming after the women, they’re coming after our wives and you know, it’s obviously abhorrent. But and it’s radicalizing, it’s really radicalizing. You know the expression:</p>
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<p>And this is a classic example of it. Like imagine the mentality that a journalist would have to go:</p>
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<p>Because they know, they know the details because it was mentioned in court that she was due within a week. And so imagine going:</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And put her in the news and put her in the media either while she’s just about to have birth or give birth or she’s just had the process.</p>
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<p>And anyone that knows anything about childbirth, labor, postpartum, they know that that’s the most absolutely critical time for a woman to balance her hormones and to not have any unnecessary stress. It’s when they need the most amount of sort of oxytocin. They just need love, they need cuddles. Like usual, but on another level, women need just cuddles in general.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But they really just need cuddles and support before, during and after that whole process. And these journalists would know that they would know that. She’s a woman, she would know that. But these people are evil and they’re possessed by demons and the demons attack the vulnerable. They attack the weak and the vulnerable and they attack women. They attack women when they’re at their most vulnerable. I mean my missus didn’t get attacked like any day of the week while I wasn’t in jail. But she’s getting harassed and attacked by journalists when I’m in jail. So when she’s alone. So they come after you when you’re alone. They come after you when you’re vulnerable. They come after you when you’ve just given birth, you can barely walk because, you’re still recovering.</p>
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<p>I mean, yeah. What we’re going to do to these journalists when we take power in a legal and lawful manner is going to be like, I’ve got experience with how the system has treated me over the years for being a political dissident. And yeah, these people are really silly! Like the way they’re behaving, they don’t know who they’re messing with. They just don’t know who they’re messing with! They don’t realize that we have really long memories and we are never going to forgive them! Ever! So keep going, see what happens! I mean they may as well keep doubling down because they’re already going to get the worst! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Like the worst thing I can think of is what’s going to happen to these journalists, to do this to Joel’s missus and by default to Joel. But Joel’s fine, he’ll be right. But to do this to his partner is just disgusting!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, media has always been a fifth column, right? Always an operative for the state, an additional element or something that you can use in your war, in your effort to target someone who is an undesirable to the system, essentially. Right.</p>
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<p>So yeah, it’s absolutely disgusting!</p>
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<p>Okay, so yes, tell us and then we’ll get to some questions here too, guys. We appreciate you get a bunch of questions to get to, and comments.</p>
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<p>But yeah, the party then. So tell us about how these ideas formulated and the fact that you were at a point here, like the legal process in Australia makes it fairly easy as far as I understand it. And I’m sure there’s hoops you have to jump through as always. But in terms of actually registering it and even the possibility of getting a seat in a county, I’m not sure if you call a county down there, but explain this to us a little bit.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Okay. Well, from the start, Australia has two houses. It has what’s called an Upper House and a Lower House. Our Upper House is a Senate and you get elected based off the, a larger, &#8230; How to explain it?</p>
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<p>So you can get Senators in quite easily if you broadly get a vote across the state. So even though it’s a federal election, you might only need somewhere between 1 and 10% of the state to vote for you. And again, it’s not a straightforward, it’s not an exact percentage that you need. Some people get 7% of the vote and they don’t get a Senator. Some people get 2% of the vote and they get a Senator. It’s all about preferencing schemes and deals and there’s a lot of dodgy stuff that goes on in the Australian system, which should all be eradicated, but we just have to work with what we’ve got.</p>
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<p>But if you get say 10% of the vote, you’re almost guaranteed to get a Senate seat, and that’s 10% of the vote, regardless of where they are living in that state. And then each state, I think has, I don’t know, I think there’s like 49. No, there’d be more than 49. I think it’s 75 Senators in total, something like that. And they’re spread out across the state at a federal level.</p>
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<p>But then you have the Lower House, which are called MPs or it’s the House of Representatives and you have to actually win the majority of the vote within what you would call a county. We call it an electorate.</p>
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<p>And so the state is broken down into say, I think 49 electorates and or it actually depends. I think it’s 120,000 people per electorate, roughly. Some are 100,000, some 140,000, but roughly it’s 120,000 people or 120,000 voters, one or the other. And you have to win 51% or 50.1% of the vote to get that seat. Now you don’t have to win 50% of the primary vote, you have to do these preferencing schemes with all these other parties, because we’re not a two party system like in America where it’s Republican or Democrat. The Labor Party might get 34% of the vote, then the Green Party might get 8% of the vote, that makes 42. And then as long as their coalition is bigger than the coalition of the Liberals, then they get the seat.</p>
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<p>So there’s like, I don’t know, 200 MPs across the country and 75 Senators, something like that, or those aren’t exact numbers. Just go on Wikipedia and you can find out exactly! But what’s important to know is that we have these two different houses. Kind of like how you’ve got Congressmen and Senators and kind of like how in the UK they’ve got the House of Lords and then they’ve got the ministers, or, sorry, not the ministers, the MPs.</p>
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<p>So we have MPs and we have Senators and they’re different, they’re elected on different bases. Now we’re not really going to contest the Lower House. Even though there’s more seats available, those seats are much harder to get because you need to actually be the dominant political force in that area, which if you’re not in the major parties, is almost impossible.</p>
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<p>For example, the Green Party in Australia is the third biggest party in Australia and they have 11 Senators or 10 Senators. And I think they only have one MP. And that could have been from a defection. I don’t know if actually. No, it might have been an actual victory in the Lower House.</p>
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<p>So that’s basically all the MP seats are controlled by the Liberal Party and Labor Party, the two big parties. They’ve got like a monopoly on the Lower House, duopoly, or jewopoly.</p>
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<p>And then the Senate is actually more diverse. It’s got all the micro parties in it. It’s got One Nation’s got four or five seats. The Greens have got 10 seats. There’s all these niche parties with one or two seats. So they have a lot more power in the Senate. And how that works is the Lower House passes bills. So they’ll say we want to introduce new legislation or we want to introduce new laws. And they’ll draft it up, they’ll write it up. They have to make their deals in the Lower House to get the Bill to pass through the Lower House, which is where the Prime Minister is. We don’t have a president. So the Prime Minister doesn’t have any executive power at passing bills. His executive powers come from his cabinet.</p>
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<p>So it’s more about the management of the country. That’s where his power comes from. He can’t manage the Lower House. He’s just the Prime Minister. He’s the prime speaker in the Lower House. He doesn’t have like, I don’t believe he has any veto ability. If he does, someone in the chat correct me, but I don’t believe the Prime Minister has any vetoing ability. There’s all sorts of niche crazy laws. Because we’ve got like the British Parliament system, we’re basically operating a British Parliament that’s slightly modified. So there’s a Speaker of the House and there’s a Leader of the House, all sorts of stuff going on.</p>
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<p>But the general rule is that once the Bill passes through the Lower House, it then has to go to the Upper House, which is the Senators, and then has to be passed through the Upper House as well.</p>
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<p>So if we can get guys in the Senate, we can block bills that are bad for White Australians and we can agree to bills that are good for White Australians. And we can quite easily in the next one or three between one and three election cycles. So between three to nine years from now, we can quite easily, quite easily, hold the balance in the Senate!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Interesting!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So what that, what that would mean is we might only need five seats in the Senate and we could quite easily swing, &#8230; A lot of these bills. They can be swung by one or two votes in the Senate. So it might pass easily through the Lower House, but then it gets the Senate, it won’t get through the Senate. So we can block some bad stuff coming through. And obviously that can then tie in with our general political strategy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously, we don’t believe that there’s a pure Parliamentary solution. Obviously, we’re working in so many different ways to build parallel society and parallel function in this country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously the meta-political shift and the cultural shift that we’re trying to make, which is our primary concern is getting Australians to identify as White people. The problem is that they don’t identify as White people. Well, they’re starting to. And that’s where we’re seeing our success, is they’re starting to identify as White people again, which is how it was. And we need to get back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we’re seeing with this Bondi thing, for example, is for the first time ever, in the “<em>most successful multicultural</em>” country in the world, we’re seeing actually a lot of mainstream criticizm of multiculturalism. So multiculturalism is like the golden calf in Australia. They worship it. They absolutely worship it! Multiculturalism is the replacement to the White Australia Policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So for the first, no one’s allowed to criticize multiculturalism. If you criticize it, you have to criticize it in a way that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, they’re not assimilating enough! Of course I support multiculturalism, but I just want a better version of multiculturalism.”</span></h3>
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<p>You know, I mean that’s the only way that people really criticize multiculturalism in Parliament, within the political realm. But what we’re finally seeing now is genuine criticizm and a grassroots dislike of multiculturalism in Australia. But there’s not one political party that’s against multiculturalism. We’re the only one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So can we get 5% of the vote? Can we get 10? Can we get 20? Can we get 30? I don’t know. I don’t have the answer to that at this stage. Time will tell, and we’ll see how bad the country gets and how radical and how racialized politics becomes. But we are succeeding in what we’re doing. We have about double the amount of people that are signed up to support us. However, only half of those people are signed up to actually go on the registrar, which is a private form with the AEC. It’s not the government. The AEC is a third party that is obviously a government institution, but it’s a unique third party that has never leaked data of membership lists.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So this would be the first! No, I’m just joking! Because it would, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:22:10]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It would be the first time. Well, how they doxed the One Nation list back in 1998 or 1999, but they didn’t dox it from the AEC. The AEC didn’t have a breach of privacy. They’re a professional institution. They’re civn ats mostly, but they’re professional institution, and they’re a patriotic institution in that sense. But the way that the list of One Nation members got leaked was by jews in the party. Jews in the party leaked it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they had, there were jews in the party that had access to the list and they leaked it to their friends that didn’t like the party. Whereas we don’t have any jews in our party.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> First time in history!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s only about four people in the organization. Maybe a fifth. Yeah, there’s four or five people that have access to the list. I am one of them, obviously.</p>
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<p>But yeah, it’s held in the absolute tightest of circles. There’s some state leaders that don’t even have access to the list. If they asked for it, we would give it to them. I would let any state leader see the list.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, it’s a very, it’s a secret document. I mean, ASIO would probably be able to see the list because they could probably hack into our computers. But look, what are they going to do with it? What are ASIO going to do with it?</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> No, sure. No, I get the point. I’m just saying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The fact is there’s 3400 people on the list, so I wouldn’t be concerned. So there’s some Australians:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t want to sign up to the party because then ASIO is going to know I exist!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s like, look, you’re probably already on a list from being racist on Facebook and liking The Noticer. You know <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like if you follow particular pages on Facebook, you’re probably already on their list. I guess you would just be on a maybe a different list.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But again, I’ve said this for years. It’s strength in numbers. It’s strength in numbers. And we share the risk. We share the risk. When there’s 10,000 names on the list, which maybe in a year or two there will be, what matters? Why does it matter if you’re one of ten thousand? I mean, if you’re one of ten thousand, what’s going to happen to you? The police, I mean, how much resources they’re going to have to harass? The way the police harass us is they prioritize who’s most important to harass. So they harass the leadership. 90% of our membership have never been harassed by the police. They’ve had no issues with the police.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And I mean, that’s membership of our activist core. I’m not talking about membership of the party. I’m saying 90% of our activists because we’re so big now, the vast majority have never even been tested. So only the kind of guys that have been around four or five years have really any experience with repeated harassment from the police.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, I would say that’s the party website. Well, that’s the org website. Obviously, the party is a part of the org. We’re looking at putting forward our four big policies in January next year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:24:54]</span></p>
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<p>So we just had a series of seminars where we covered our four policies. They’re not on the website yet. I’ve copped a little bit of criticizm for that, but it will be up on the website soon. We’re just polishing them. We had a seminar last weekend across all the States except New South Wales because they’re preparing for nationals. Where we covered, we had one speaker per policy. And the four policies are simple.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We want the White Australia Policy to be reinstated, meaning we don’t want Australia to be a multicultural country anymore, we don’t want it to be a multiracial country anymore. And we want to start reversing the demographic avalanche of White people and start going back the other way and making Australia more White. And with the ultimate goal of making it entirely White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously that is going to involve a combination of mass deportations and also re-migration strategies. So we’d be looking at changing a whole number of laws. Is that going to happen anytime soon? No, but what we can do is start moving things in the right direction by taking a little bit of state control. So our biggest priority is protecting our demographics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so if we can protect the demographics of this country then all the other sort of Weimar conditions are fixable. You know, demographics are well not permanent. But demographics are destiny obviously. And that’s really our priority as a party. That’s why it’s policy number one is just protecting White Australia, protecting our demographics. And not just protecting it, but advancing our demographics. So we’ve gone from 99% White to about 66% White or 67% White in a period of around 50 years. So what we want to look at doing over the next 50 years or less, ideally a lot less, ideally over the next 10 years. But I’m realistic, it might take a bit more than 10 years. We want to look at going back up towards 99% and beyond.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Policy number two is called “<em>End Debt Slavery</em>”. So we’re going to ban obviously in the same principle as the White Australia Policy, the first principle of End Debt Slavery is we’re going to ban interest on family home loans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re going to guarantee every single Australian family an interest free home loan. They’ll get money lent to them by the State bank. So we’re going to take back the state bank.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we had a state bank in Australia called the Commonwealth Bank. It’s since been privatized in 1996 and it’s worth, I don’t know, something like $1.3 trillion. And we’re going to take back ownership of the state bank and we’re going to use the state bank, the Commonwealth bank, to lend money to young families that are married, that are White Australians and they’re going to get interest free loans to buy houses.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s how we’re going to fix the housing crisis is we’re going to deport millions of non-Whites which is going to massively free up the market. And then White Australians that want to buy a home or White Australians that currently have a home, all the interest is going to be wiped off the principal. So any new loan will be no interest. And any current loan, not only will you not pay interest going forward, but also any interest you have paid is going to be refunded to you off your principal.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So a lot of people are going to have their homes basically instantly paid off because most people have already paid more than their homes worth in interest. If they’re like Gen-X’s for example, if they’re more in the older sort of family bracket, they’ve got teenage kids and stuff, a lot of these people have already paid off their homes in interest alone. So that’s policy number two.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Policy number three is we’re going to do something called a “<em>New Magna Carta</em>”, or a Bill of Rights. We’re going to create an Australian Bill of Rights. Australia doesn’t have a Bill of Rights. So policy three is we’re going to introduce a series of rights and duties, a series of freedoms that we think are fundamental to being Australian and members of Western civilization, members of the White race. And we’re going to introduce these things in order to curtail the ever increasing Police State we live in and the powers of the tyranny of the government. So we want to reduce government power and increase citizen power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s things like a First Amendment. So like free speech, we don’t have that in our constitution. We have an implied right and that’s not good enough, because it’s being twisted and turned. We need to have a really explicit principle so that we get rid of all this hate speech legislation and all this religious vilification legislation. We want to get rid of all of that and give Australians the right to freedom of speech. And the right to criticize the government, even criticize us as much as we’re, you know, authoritarians, we’ll cop fair criticizm, obviously.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Other principles include, we want to do like a maximum 10% income tax. We want to include gun rights, but we’re going to be very tactful for how we include gun rights. So I want to do the Swiss model personally. I’m flexible and I’m open minded to how we could implement a Second Amendment in Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:29:48]</span></p>
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<p>Bu I want to do it in the Swiss model. Meaning you would do a national service at a high school. You would get issued a firearm during your national service and then you would retain that military style semi-automatic rifle or fully automatic rifle, but you would maintain that rifle as you would never be a civilian again. You would do your national service and that would make you a citizen. Kind of Starship Troopers kind of Fascism 101.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s also just Athenian. It’s an Athenian model. It’s actually the foundation of democracy in some ways, the citizen soldier.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s how we would look at implementing it. It wouldn’t be a strict Second Amendment the way you guys have it in Australia <span style="color: #008000;">[America]</span>, because we need a lot of cultural change. We need, I think a few generations or at least one generation to breathe. To fix a lot of these issues. We don’t want to just have like guns galore just overnight without those kind of cultural changes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then policy four is re-industrialization. So that’s pretty simple. It’s really about taking back our infrastructure. Australia being an economic powerhouse again. Not just getting stripped of all its natural resources and being sent off to the developing world. We want to build all of our stuff here again. We want to build cars here again. We want to build ships here again. We’re an island. We should have a massive shipping capacity. We’re so reliant on trade. We should be a naval superpower. We should be we’re already a resource superpower. We have all the raw materials to do it. We need to re-industrialize.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We need to invest, take control of the RBA, the Reserve Bank of Australia, take control of the Commonwealth bank and do some serious, serious economy building in a completely different direction using high tech manufacturing and reclaim our economic autarky, or at least a large percentage of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So those are the four policies that’s what we’re putting forward.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously there’s a lot of things mixed in amongst that you know, people talk about education Reform and you know, getting rid of multiculturalism will do a lot of what we want for education reform.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s a lot to take in. No, obviously everyone needs to visualize that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the website, we’re going to have nice little graphics made up and there’ll be a little write up of each policy. And when you check the website out at some point, either late, probably not late January, probably February, but the policies will be announced soon. And I assume the website will be very neat and tidy by February with the policies.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Very good. Nice. Holden, was that the car the Australia used to produce?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> right. Yeah, we made Fords as well. Fords and Holden, Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Like a version of Ford Australia, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Kind of yeah. And Holden’s just General Motors.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, okay, I see. Did you have any like native cars that you actually like?</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Holden is the native brand that was eventually owned by General Motors.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> We’re gonna have an Aryan future Tom. They’re gonna be flying cars. Okay!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Oh, there’s gonna be all. Look, I’m not gonna go too much into policy four because it’s a bottomless pit of what we can do.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Powered by vril!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re gonna do the craziest shit! We’re gonna do stuff no one’s ever seen before. We’re gonna terraform Australia. We’re gonna actually terraform it.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> There you go.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re gonna do crazy shit! We’re gonna do inland lake, high speed rail, flying cars, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s the spirit! That’s the spirit right there!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s gonna be vriltastic!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Vriltastic. I just want to play this.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re gonna give Australia a sense of purpose again. It’s not just about race and it’s not removing the slavery.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> White Australians without debt or without interest still have a demoralized attitude. What we’re trying to do is raise that spirit. It’s about a spiritual revival.</p>
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<p>And I think part of that, because I’m not too big at talking about economics, although I’ve studied it a fair bit in my own time, but where economics is important is that most people, 99% of men need to go to work Monday to Friday. They need to. It’s a big part of their identity. It’s a big part of their purpose. And where most White men are lacking in purpose is not just from a racial perspective and not just from a demoralization in terms of the culture and the media and the movies they’re watching and the music they’re listening to. And the way that they’re being completely subverted at an economic level. It’s also when they go to work, what are they doing? Like, I worked in the construction industry for about five years, almost six years. And you go to work and you’re building what we call Jeet boxes. A Jeet box is these fucking shitty little townhouses with like all these different multi-roofs on them. They’re just the dumb. This is the dumbest fucking architecture style you ever see in your life! It’s the most ineffective, inefficient way to build a house you could possibly imagine. And it’s a dog box with no room on it, no backyard. The roofs are all touching each other, so they’re a separate dwelling, but not really. And it’s just so demoralizing just putting a roof on something like that. It just feels disgusting!</p>
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<p>And then one day a month, you get a contract, or a cashy or something, and it’s some guy on a farm and he’s got 200 acres and he needs a new roof on his shed. And you go out, you drive an extra hour and a half to go to this guy’s farm. And you put the roof on the shed and you have a beer with the boys afterwards. And you just look at each other and you just say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What if every day was like this? What if every day was like this? Like, how good did today feel?”</span></h3>
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<p>Like the weather could have been awful! It doesn’t matter. And it just feels so good to just be on some land and just to build something and then and you can have a relationship with the guy you’re building it for. Like the farmer comes out of his house, he’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“How you going boys? You know, you wanna iced coffee or something? I’ll get the Mrs to make you one.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And like you, after work you can sit back and you can chat a bit and then you get in the car and you drive home.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:36:24]</span></p>
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<p>But when you’re in these jeet boxes, like the dust and the muck and Indians are coming out of their house next to you and oh, it’s just so demoralizing. It’s just, why am I doing this? Why am I building this disgusting, ugly, grotty filth for these people to just replace me? So we want to bring back the Australian dream. Not just in the:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I’ve got a nice house and I’ve got a nice backyard and I’ve got a golden retriever and a white picket fence.”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s not just about getting it back in that sense. It’s, well, what are you doing to get it? So we want to completely revolutionize the economy in a way that people actually feel a sense of pride, going to work again. Which I think Australians and Americans and Europeans, they probably had that 50 years ago.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, I think you’re right. Absolutely! Yeah. I wanted to play this clip here and I’m going to take some of the comments and questions from the audience watching here. But Robert Menzies, he was the 12th Prime Minister of Australia. He served from 1939-41 and then his second term from 46. Was that all the way to his retirement in 1966? Did he serve that long? Do you remember? Was that long? Or it must have been interrupted.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I want to play a clip with him. That’s the point on the White Australia Policy. Right. So listen to this here. I’m sure you’ve seen the clip, but let’s play it for the audience here.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Stewart Lamb:</strong> Do you believe that the White, the so-called “<em>White Australia</em>” policy will always be a stumbling block?</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sir Robert Menzies:</strong> I don’t think it’s such a stumbling block as people pretend, but that it’s important for us, I haven’t the slightest doubt!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Stewart Lamb:</strong> That we should maintain it the way it is?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sir Robert Menzies:</strong> As long as we possibly can we ought to aim at having a homogeneous population!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I don’t want to see reproduced in Australia the kind of problem they have in South Africa, or in America, or increasingly in Great Britain. I think it’s been a very good policy and it’s been of great value to us.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;">And most of the criticizm of it that I’ve ever heard doesn’t come from these oriental countries. It comes from (((wandering Australians))).</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Stewart Lamb:</strong> For these views of course, in the past, Sir Robert, you have been described as a racist.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sir Robert Menzies:</strong> Have I?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Stewart Lamb:</strong> I have read this, yes.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sir Robert Menzies:</strong> Well, if I were not described as a racist, I’d be the only public man who hasn’t been! That’s one of these jargons, isn’t it? One of these modern words, you call a man a “<em>racist</em>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[END]</span></p>
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<p>All right, what do you make of that? That’s how it used to be. Right? So this was like an idea. This is what I’m saying. What you’re proposing here is not some new radical thing. This is just basically going back to what the intention of the country was to begin with and the people running it.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yes. I really. A little bit of a red herring, but I really like the way he describes jews as “<em>wandering Australians</em>”.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I figured that’s what it was! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. That was a dog whistle back in the day. Yeah. You know:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We don’t get this kind of criticizm from the Orientals. We get this kind of criticizm from the wandering Australians.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Same thing as Nixon, because this is around the same time as Nixon. This is where you’ve got the conservative Right in power and back in the 60s, and they’re starting to realize that the jewish problem is what’s trying to destroy the nation. And it’s very clear from day dot that the jewish community here in Australia and obviously in America and Britain have been working fervently hard to dismantle the homogeneous White population and turn it into Babylon, so that they can hide in the mess that they make and they can hide their crimes. And yeah, as you said, that is how Australia was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another thing that’s interesting is how much the accent has changed. I obviously don’t have a pure Australian accent. I’m referred to a lot as a South African, but I’m actually not a South African. I have extended family in South Africa, but my accent is because my parents are both English.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you can actually tell from these old politicians. Australians actually spoke with more of an English accent. They were more connected to the mother country in that sense. And the accent has definitely degraded, I think. And it’s more, it’s too ocka now. It’s become more and more uncouth. I know that I can’t really talk much. Also there was an increase of, there was just so much English immigration into Australia. So that would have maintained the properness of the English accent.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:40:08]</span></p>
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<p>But yeah, what can you say about that? What I see as a statesman, we used to have statesmen in charge of the country. If I was living in 1966, would I have agreed with Menzies? Probably not. There probably would have been someone more racist than Menzies. I probably would have been like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Menzies a cuck!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> the 1966 version of that was. Like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Menzies is too soft on the (((wandering Australian))). We need a, we need a more strict approach to the wandering Australian question!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, it’s definitely obvious that Canada, Australia, even America to a large degree. There’s a lot of infrastructure, sort of rhetorical infrastructure in the founding of our nations. And you can find it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I did a speech, a 45 minute speech on the weekend and I mentioned in the speech I had a legal friend who’s looked through the Constitution very thoroughly. The founding father of Australia or the first prime minister of Australia, Edmund Barton. Someone was arguing with him while they were drafting the Constitution in 1898. So it came out in 1901, but they spent about three years drafting it. And in 1898 he had an argument with another politician and they were asking about:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why have you put this race, this specific race power law in?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the first Prime Minister of Australia said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Basically we need a race power law because we need to be able to mass deport non-Whites when we don’t want them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he didn’t even use the term “<em>non-Whites</em>”. He basically said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Inferior people and races, inferior and colored races. We should be able to deport them as a whole, when we don’t need them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So like if we need them to pick sugarcane, for example, like the way that you had blacks picking cotton, we had Pacific Islanders picking sugarcane in Queensland. The idea was before Federation we had, I can’t remember what they call them. “<em>Coolies</em>” <span style="color: #008000;">[refers to Chinese workers]</span>, I think, or Kanakas*, I think they had a slur for them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Plantation owners in Queensland had experienced difficulty in hiring laborers for their plantations, especially for the pay rates that were being offered. It was said that this situation was hindering the economic viability of those rural businesses. Many pastoralists had used convicts as laborers, but when the transportation of convicts to New South Wales ended in 1840, this meant that the plantation owners lost a major source of cheap labor. The lack of cheap labor for cotton and sugar plantations in Queensland led to the advent of Kanaka immigration. Kanakas (as laborers from the Pacific Islands were called) were imported in large numbers to work in Australia (especially in Queensland, but also in northern New South Wales). The term “<em>Kanaka</em>” means “<em>man</em>” or “<em>person</em>” in the Hawaiian language. Souce: Https:// www. Australianculture.org/the-white-Australia-policy-kanakas /]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they had these Pacific islanders come in and pick sugarcane and they wanted to make sure there was legislation that if they brought in a thousand of them, they picked the sugar cane and then they could force them on a boat to go home when it was done, so that they could keep Australia White. And he won the argument and they put it in the Constitution. So in the Australian constitution, there’s a race power law where we can just mass deport people on the basis of their race.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> All right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> That’s the kind of country. Yeah. So we’re doing well here. We’re doing well here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So I’m very excited. I’m very excited. We’re breath of fresh air for the political system. The Australian people are begging! They’re begging for a real Right-wing party. And we’re getting a lot of support. And we have a lot of people come down to our seminars, our political meetings, and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, look, I’ve been a Liberal Party member my whole life. I’ve gone to Liberal Party meetings my whole life and I’ve never seen anything like this. I’m so glad to see proud, patriotic Australians!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the feedback has just been amazing! The feedback, especially the older generation, like all the Boomers coming down, just saying thank, like basically just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank you, finally we’re seeing men that are just red blooded!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve haven’t been to a Liberal Party meeting in a really long time. But I’ve had friends go and some of our members get paid to go to Liberal Party meetings <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> because they got to fill seats. And the young guys that don’t have jobs, they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, I’ll take the 100 bucks.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s that embarrassing, the Liberal Party at the moment. But they just report back and they just say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s just old people that are dying, that are just like falling asleep. And the people speaking are just homosexuals!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s just homosexuals and girl bosses and that’s it. And they just useless rhetoric. And it’s just uninspiring. It’s just boring. And it’s just a freight train just running out of steam basically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And that’s the system. It’s just a freight train running out of steam. They’ve got the momentum of decades and decades of organizing behind them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And I mean, the parties are shrinking. The political parties here in Australia have never been so small. I think the Liberal Party has gone from like 60,000 members a decade ago to like, I think they’re barely getting 20,000 now. And I mean, just in the last election cycle, I think they’ve gone from 30,000 to 20,000 just in one election cycle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> It’s fascinating! So, like, everyone’s checking out, but like the bureaucracy, the paperwork, the same. The scum that have the motivation, I guess, just to kind of get into that dirty world and keep it going. That’s what just is causing it to move on for now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We haven’t even put policies on our website yet and we’re already tracking to be the sixth biggest party in Australia out of the like 100 parties that are in Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’d be hilarious!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:45:04]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So the hype is real. The hype is real! Like a lot of people are hyping it online. And I don’t want people thinking like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we’re gonna have Prime Minister Thomas Sewell!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not likely. I want to make it clear that’s not likely at all! The chance of that is probably 1%. It’d have to be really happening for something like that to happen. It’d be like Ron Paul would have a meltdown. It’d be that kind of happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> And as we know, nothing ever happens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Until it happens. Nothing ever happens until it happens. And then one day it happens!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Let me ask you this, Tom, though, because obviously you will be, as you know, and I’m sure you’ve thought about this too, you will be dealt with or treated on a totally different level. I mean, you would potentially see for the democratic system to defend itself, it would basically unravel the very definitions and guardrails that makes it being able to term itself as a democracy. I would reckon. What do you expect the pushback will be? And the way they will just say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, you can’t do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Just empty words. Just empty words. I think there’s probably less than a 10% chance they’ll be able to block us. I’m very confident it’s all going to go ahead. The black pillers need to be gassed! All the black pillers, just gas them!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, no! And I’m not. When I bring, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I’m not saying you’re black pilling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Sure. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> What I’m saying is there’s people online, I see comments every now and then where it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“They’re just gonna shut them down and make it illegal! And they’re all gonna go to jail!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like, shut up! You’re either a jew or you’ve got your dick taped between your legs. Like, it’s just the most disgusting, demoralized, weak kind of energy. It’s so anti-Australian. Australians, we’re on a frontier we’re the frontier of the world and we’re surrounded on all sides by non-Whites. We’ve got a very harsh landscape, you know, we’ve allegedly got all these animals that try to kill us and to be like. And to be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, the government’s gonna shut us down, we can’t do anything!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Is just the most weak cunt energy, like just fuck off! Go live somewhere else. This land is not built for weak cunts! This is hard cunt territory here and we don’t tolerate that shit! And those people, a lot of the time I think that they’re just jews. I think a lot of the time it’s just jews trying to sow fear in people that support us. The chances of the government blocking us is very low because they don’t have the framework to do it. They would have to nuke the whole system to do it. And are they prepared to do that? I don’t think they got the balls. I mean, you’ve got some rogue, really rogue politicians like Christopher Minns, who’s the New South Wales premier, saying that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s going to block the party and we’re not going to let this party come to power. And we’re going to dox all the members!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the AEC came out and made a statement saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can’t do that.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you’ve got like all these other Senators and all these other political leaders coming out and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, actually, we can’t do that. We have to let them. If they follow the rules, we have to let them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s just basically kevtching like a bunch of losers. And it’s good. The more they kevtch, the better because it shows that they’re afraid and it doesn’t pass the pub test. And the average Aussie sees that on the news and goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What? You want to ban this party? Why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they go on the website and they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, cool, I get all the interest paid off my mortgage and there’s less Indians. Fuck, that actually sounds all right!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What we’re doing is really controversial from the concept that the country’s being destroyed by people that hate it! But it’s not controversial to the average Aussie, it really passes the pub test. And the idea that they want to ban it. The way the Australian psyche works is very clear. If the government wants to ban something, the average Aussie has this rebellious nature where they go:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why? Why does the government want to ban that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’ll look into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, and that was my point, right? Bring it up. It’s a win-win regardless, right? It will expose the system or you actually have a foot in through the door. And either way it’s a plus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re inevitable no matter what our strategy is. And we’ve got insurance policies, we’re not putting all our eggs in this one basket. But we see it as part of a matrix of power. And you can’t just build a political party. You have to build everything. It’s all about the back end. A political party is just, it’s not a front, but a political party it’s just the presence of power.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:49:50]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The real power of the Labor Party, for example, is not the Labor Party. It’s all the trade unions they control and all the non-White community groups that have all as a bloc joined the Labor Party, as a mosque, as a church, as a Chinese community center, as a, whatever it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Again, going back to the Liberal Party, whenever there is an influx of members in the Liberal Party because they just, every year they’re getting less and less and less members. But one branch might have an extra 200 members this year compared to last year. And how did that happen? How did that happen? How have they got 200 extra members? Well, we might have a friend, or a colleague or an associate that is, on paper, a member of that branch so that they can keep an eye on it. And they’ll tell us, they’ll report back to me and they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, yep, some rich Chinese businessman just joined the party. He made a deal with the people that run that branch and he just got 200 of his laborers to sign up at the party.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he just signs up all the people that work for him and says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You have to do this. You work for me. You have to do this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because they’re Chinese, they’ll just be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes, sir.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah. Yep, Correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And that’s the only way the Liberal Party or the Labor Party are getting these massive influxes. It’s just like rich Chinese or rich Indian businessmen or community leaders. The Chinese operate primarily through business, so they don’t have community leaders the way the Indians and the Muslims do, or the jews do. Well, the jews have both, obviously. They have business leaders and they have community leaders. But the Chinese, because they don’t have a religion and because they can’t organize as the, CCP, they organize as a front for the CCP, which is through CCP business here in Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep. Correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And they bring in all their workers, they get their workers PR <span style="color: #008000;">[Permanent Residency]</span>, then they get their workers citizenship, and then they start becoming a voting bloc.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The hype is real! The Whites are leaving the major parties in droves, and the major parties are only retaining their numbers through the influx of browns.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s why multiculturalism is their death rattle. That’s why they won’t ever give it up, because it’s the only way they can maintain their party.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re forcing the dialectic. We’re heightening the contradictions. Everything that we’re doing is tactical. Everything we’re doing is strategic. And people for years have been saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, they’re wignats, they’re dumb, they don’t know what they’re doing. You got to join the Republican Party and you’ve got to subvert it from the inside.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like, these people are not creative thinkers and they’re not high IQ and they’re not morally courageous. The way you change the demographic destiny of the country is you have to schism the forces. And you have to put your flag up high. You have to raise the banner high! That’s the song. That’s the song! We’ve got the song, the Banner High!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You know, you got to raise the flag high and you got to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hello! Hello! We’re the Whites! We’re doing the White people thing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> It’s time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. In America, that’s really hard! But it’s hard becauseyou guys haven’t laid the framework over the last 50 years, and we haven’t either. In Australia, we’re only picking this up. Well, there has been some that have tried, and obviously in America, people have tried, but we have built the meta-political energy that can be converted, or a portion of it can be converted into contesting a system that’s not a duopoly. You know, we’ve got that European style politics, but it wasn’t always like that. 20, 30 years ago we had the American style politics. The Greens were like 1% of the vote and that was like the third biggest party. Like you had the Australian Christians and you had like the Nationals, but the Nationals formed a coalition with the Liberals and then they became known as the Coalition.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so you had like 95 plus percent of the vote in two parties. Now it’s like 70 or less. So it’s moving more and more into that European style and you have to just do the framework. So you just have to do the groundwork, you have to do the legwork.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> What I like about it is that it’s a different approach to it. Right. And you’re seeing that elsewhere too, that with numbers comes power and you build something else first as opposed to doing like, here’s a new political, well, who’s going to join a new political party, kind of thing. Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, what caliber of people as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> How do you put a hierarchy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Because there’s so much to do. I mean, yeah, we have a lot of people joining the party now that want to tell us what to do and they don’t want to be part of the organization.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So now we’re in a situation where we’re dealing with, well, how are we going to constitutionally frame the party and the organization together? Because there are a lot of people that are looking at the party and going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Holy shit! This could work!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This not necessarily work in terms of take over the country, but this could become the third biggest party in the country quite quickly, or at least the fourth biggest party in the country quite quickly. This could be the Right-wing’s alternative to the Greens. And we could see One Nation form a coalition with the Liberal Party. But what we’re seeing is so much fracturing on the Right. We’re seeing a real contender on the Right coming out from the hardest possible position and they’re going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m going to get in this early.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they don’t want to be involved with the community. They don’t want to do the activism, they don’t want to do the push ups in the park, but they might have a good understanding of policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:55:14]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so what we’re dealing with at the moment is having that conversation with these people and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, look, we’ll take your feedback. You can help advise us.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, depending on their skills, depending on what they are. But if you want to be a decision maker in the party, you have to join the order. And that’s rattling their minds a little bit because they’re used to:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I joined the Liberal Party and I became the branch leader of the Liberal Party because I won a popularity contest.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or they join One Nation and same thing:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I’ve joined this political party and I did this and I joined that political party. I did this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they’re joining our political party and then it doesn’t work like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so that’s where we’re trying to balance democracy, which is an innate instinct of the public. They want to have a voice. They want to be involved and engaged in the process. But yeah, but at the same time, we’re a hierarchy. We’re building an order of men that are committed to fixing the country. And you have to be part of that order of men if you want to be within the leadership of the political party, or if you want to run as a candidate, for example.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Very good.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All right, let me take some of these questions and comments here. Albert, first out the gates. Thank you so much, Albert. Huge dono. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, Henrik. Looking forward to tonight show. Thomas Sewell is always one of my favorite guests. Especially looking forward to hearing his take on the Bondi beach shooting. Great show yesterday too. Take care.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you so much, Albert. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for your incredible support. Derek Rance, good to see you as well. Derek says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thanks in advance for the show. It sounds like they are preparing Canada for the next extreme event to tighten the laws here.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m sure they are. Good to see you, Derek, as always. Dercherso says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Good episode, good guest and good takes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you, dear. Shabir, Gustav says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi Henrik. Finally able to catch the show live for change. Very impressive by Sewell.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, we all are. Very good:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Keep fighting the good fight, both of you.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you. Archie:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fascinating information. I missed the beginning. White power!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, there you go. Thank you, Archie. Appreciate it. We got Alcion as well. Good to see you. Says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Happy to see Tom again. My question, Tom, so many of us around the world respect you tremendously and are taking notes from your group’s success. Do you think world jewery is hitting you especially hard because they understand your significance not just nationally, but globally?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he ends with:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hail Volk. Hail Red Ice and hail White Australia!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Comments?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> World jewry has already done 99% of what it can do to us. And so now it’s got one left, one thing left to do to us. And I’m not sure if it’s prepared to do that one last thing. So there’s nothing more that it can do. I don’t have a bank account. I go into the bank, I can’t set one up. Yeah, I’ve been locked in solitary confinement. I’ve been framed, I’ve been imprisoned. You know, I’ve had unjust treatment through the courts. What else?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I’ve lost all the jobs. I can only work for friends now. The only work I can get is from people that are connected to our community, which is why building community is so important. You can’t just run away and hide from doxing for the rest of your life:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I just don’t want to get doxed! I just don’t want to get doxed!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not a solution to the problem. That’s not even a band aid. That’s not even a band aid! Conflict avoidance doesn’t solve the problem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The only way to solve the problem is insular communities, whether that’s big or small. Ideally, the bigger, the better. The bigger it is actually the more protected it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we need to have communities. If you only know people on the Internet, you don’t even know their name. You’ve never even met their wife, you don’t even know what they do for work. Because people so worried about getting doxed, like everything’s hush hush, everything’s secret, like that’s the psyop! Not doxing yourself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, what more can the jews do other than kill me or try to kill me? I don’t know. There’s nothing more that they can do. There’s simply nothing that they haven’t already tried and failed. That they cannot stop what is coming. They cannot stop our determination, our will from triumphing. So well, it’s just assassination. That’s all they’ve got left.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, Valhalla, here I come! I don’t care! I’m gonna keep going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, yeah, I mean that’s the spirit you have to have, undoubtedly. And again it’s this is not gonna just go away. These sentiments, this mentality, the problems we’re faced with here and the reality of the situation is not just going to kind of morph into something else tomorrow on the Internet, because that’s a hip new topic to be into or something. I mean, this is not going away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, I’m with you. I think this is an inevitable trajectory for, again, I’m not saying the majority of White people, but a substantial enough portion of White people in order to make some real changes and clawing back control of our nations once again. I think it’s going to happen, you know, undoubtedly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:00:12]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I think it’s intergenerational as well. I think that in Australia this is the first time we’ve probably had an intergenerational movement here in Australia, which shows you how far behind we are from Europe. What I’m talking about is we’ve got the first generation of 18 year olds coming through now whose dads are members of the organization or have been for a long time. You know, so that is kind of embarrassing that it took to the year 2025 to have that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, the Muslims don’t have that issue. Like any Muslim you meet on the street. I’m pretty sure their dads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their granddads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their great granddad’s a Muslim. I’m pretty sure they’ve been organizing politically as Muslims for their entire existence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So as White people, we need to have intergenerational White nationalism. That’s the only way we’re going to survive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re finally seeing that now here in Australia. And there’s a lot of power in that. We’ve got young guys that are being brought up in the community and the government fears it, like the government at the moment, the thing that they were talking about the most on the media about us in the lead up to Bondi, before the Bondi thing happened, other than imprisoning me and imprisoning Joel Davis, was the home-schooling network. They are petrified at our home-schooling network! And we don’t even have much of a home-schooling network. It’s just in its infancy. Literally, it’s in its infancy. We’ve mostly got toddlers because most of the men in the organization are young men and we’ve only just started having kids in the last five years. So, we don’t even really have a proper home-schooling network set up. We’re just going with it. We can’t even send our kids to kindergarten anyway because you have to be vaccinated in Australia to send your kid to kindergarten.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s a matter of necessity. It’s not just a matter of choice. It’s like even if we wanted to send our kids to kindergarten hypothetically, we actually legally can’t. We’d have to forge documents because our children are not allowed to go to kindergarten.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Insane! Yeah. Homeschooling is banned in Sweden. Germany too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Of course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So no option. Incredible! Mr. Marsh Wood says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, Tom, just want to say thank you for all what you guys are doing. I had a great time at the Victoria seminar and hope to attend more.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He says. Do you have any comments? This was a local, for White Australia, the organization. That’s where you had the Victoria seminar?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, we had it in Melbourne. So all the capital cities except for Sydney, New South Wales, had a seminar last weekend. So we’re syncing everything up and we released the policies for the first time on Saturday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Nice. Awesome! Based rat 1488 says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, Tom, these conspiracy theories are opening the light to show that the jews are at fault for this attack either way, for funding the Australian government to spread multiculturalism in Australia. BR.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Not sure if you have any comments on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, sure. Of course the jews are behind multiculturalism in Australia. Yes. But I don’t think anyone in the media are talking about that. Like we are talking about it in our circles. But that’s very insulated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also you have to think tactically about it. You know, you can bring up that point. You can certainly approach that point. It could be considered a good time to approach that point. But the primary thing I believe that the movement needs to focus on when there’s a terror attack by Muslims against predominantly jews at Bondi beach, the primary point we need to come at it is that we don’t want either of these people here, that we want a sovereign country and that multiculturalism and the government are at fault. And yeah, I’m an anti-semite. I’m one of the most outspoken anti-semites in the fucking world! And I’m saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, guys, tactically it would be smart if we pile pressure on the government at this point. Like not to give away the tactic. But you gotta join the dog pile.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everyone’s attacking the government and for the right reasons or sometimes the wrong reasons. But, it’s not just all about, hey, let’s dogpile the jews while they’re being fucking shot. It’s like, look, there’s a time and a place to dogpile the jews, but it’s probably tactically smarter to dogpile the government when the jews are getting shot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yes. About working with the energy, right? It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, no, it’s not the Muslims fault!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, I’ve seen that too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s the thing with the:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s a false flag. The Manchester bombing was this or that.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> These people have never met a Muslim!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Anyone that’s met a Muslim. Look, I don’t know any Muslims. I’m living quite insular at the moment. But because I’m not allowed to go to a commercial gym. I get banned from every commercial gym I go to, but I don’t care! We’ve got our own gyms, but sometimes I like training at like proper fight gyms. But like some of the boys train at proper fight gyms and they’re saying to me that when it happened, all the Muslims at the fight gym are just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Inshallah, brother, more dead jews. This is awesome!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just like openly in front of Aussies, in front of like multiculturalism. Like they don’t give a fuck l like the Muslims don’t give a fuck! All right. So they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh this guy’s not a real Muslim!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nah, you don’t understand where we’re at. It’s not 2000 fucking, &#8230; It’s not 1995 anymore. Like those days are fucking gone! It’s fucking race war! Everyone knows it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:05:46]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s right. Ghost Dogman says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thomas is a great field expert on the Great War on Whites. I hope to see more from him on Red Ice TV. Free Joel!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s right, Ghost Dogman. Thank you. J.C. Henderson, 94 says simply:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Heil Red Ice. Heil Sewell. Thanks for doing what you’re doing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, thank you. Brian. 7316 says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, and it’s great to see Tom on Red Ice again. He’s an Aussie hero. Like the Sewell’s charge against Antifa. Smiley face.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There you go. Exactly! Very nice. Protector podcast:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey Tom, I’m 15 year old from Australia that has been getting really into nationalism and National Socialism. I can’t join the NSN. I’m pretty. I’m a pretty tall and fit guy, at what age can I join?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He’s asking you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> As a general rule, we don’t accept applicants under the age of 16. Just as a general rule. Yeah, so.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So you have to wait one year. Might just have to wait a year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. And even then between 16 and 18, we’re pretty discriminatory just because we don’t want to risk having someone join under the age of 18 that is a fucking, is an idiot! You know what I mean? We’ve had a lot of issues with people joining and not being honest to their parents.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we really only accept applicants under 18 now that have a good relationship with their parents. Because what we’ve got now is a whole state infrastructure set up where parents can now basically rat their children to the Stasi. And then it basically the parents can sign away their kid’s life to the government. So you know how like all that shit with like Britney Spears and how her dad like controlled her?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, unfortunately I do remember that. Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Do you remember all that garbage? Yeah, it’s like it’s got a name to it. I can’t remember what the word is. But basically, if you’re under 18 and you join the Org and your parents are like full blown, like normgroid retards, they can basically call the government and be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“My son has joined NSN! He’s doing boxing at the park. Is he gonna be a terrorist?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then like a hysterical retard. And then basically the cops, then you’re just like chilling at home playing Minecraft or Roblox. And then the fucking feds rock up at your house and your parents let them in and then they come into your bedroom, they take your computer, they take your phone, they sit you down for like four hours and abuse you and tell you that you’re being brainwashed by maniacs:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“They’re gonna strap bombs to your chest and have you run at Muslims and have them blown up!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And like just the most insane shit! Like some of these young lads that have had this, had to go through this, they’ve recorded the conversation. So I know what these piggies are saying to 16 year olds and how insane they are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve listened to the most insane conversations where these piggies are saying like just the craziest shit to try to like brainwash these kids. They’re doing exactly what they’re accusing us of doing! They’re literally brainwashing these kids into believing the most insane shit, and then to make it even worse, your parents then sign off and you’ve got to do a de-radicalization course, which means you have a government friend now that comes and buys you KFC once a week and talks to you about your feelings for the next like year and a half. And you just don’t want to go through that! If you don’t have sick cunt parents, just fucking do your push ups, get a trade, finish high school, talk to your mates about this stuff. You know what I mean? And be careful how you talk to your mates about the stuff. Because a lot of guys that have reached out to the org, that aren’t in the org but have reached out and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, I’ve been forced to this DeRad thing, do I have to do it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, what happened? Like, we’ve never heard of you. How are you on a DeRad thing?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’ve said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I was talking about the Holocaust in class. And some kid in my class told the teacher and the teacher called the government and now I’ve got a government friend.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fuck dude, like, you got to be careful!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> like, the Zoomers aren’t careful. They say crazy shit at school and they don’t realize that the teachers are trained to inform on them, if they say anything remotely like nationalistic. So you got to be very careful if you’re a young guy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if your parents. Look, if your dad is willing to meet with myself or whoever the state leader is or whoever the region rep is, if your dad’s willing to meet with us, then yes, you can join at whatever age.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But it’s basically like parental permission because, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We just can’t be fucked dealing with the government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Like, sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s a joke!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep. All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:10:32]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You can go to Drag Queen Story Hour, of course. Yeah, that’s fine. You can’t join the Nazi boxing club. We will strap a bomb to your chest, apparently, according to police, because that’s happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I think that answered your second follow up, that Protector podcast too, in terms of what you can do to get involved more in that space.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, talk to your dad. Tell your dad why you want to join and go from there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And if your dad’s cool with it. What a lot of the dads say to us, because we do have a lot of people under the age of 18 involved and what a lot of the dads say to us is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I just don’t want them doing activism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That’s cool! Activism isn’t compulsory. It’s not compulsory. He can come and train, but, yeah, he’s not allowed to do activism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Very good. Canadian Girl Rumble says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Much love and support from Canada. Hail Sewell and the NSN!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you, Canadian Girl Rumble. Aussie autist 88, says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Preferred meal, butter chicken or tikka masala?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Butter chicken. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Butter chicken. There you go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> They’re all going home. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> But we got the recipe!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> We got the recipe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Butter chicken is actually an ancient Aryan dish.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Probably. Of course it is. Indo Aryan Oziotis again says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Our faggot ministers have zero vision. Zero vril. They are all so sterile and impotent. The vision of White Australia will go far!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There you go. Thor’s Rune. Yeah, go ahead.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Preach racist, preach!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> There you go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Thor’s Rune:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Great discussion, great points laid out by Thomas. Standing strong for his nation and our people. Activism is no easy task in a politically hostile environment. Hail from SoCal!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Southern California. Holy smokes. Get out of there if you can. Anyway, my condolences, but thank you, Thorstroom. Appreciate that. But the Bearded Indian says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why do you think the Muslim retreated to the bridge instead of charging towards the crowds of targets?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, he was on a vantage point. It was up high, obviously, so that was his best view, I would assume. What do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, same reason.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> They could cover each other from there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, because his dad. Didn’t his dad have a shotgun? He was like the one who’s going to take care of there’s someone that’s approaching the son. The main shooter. That’s what he looked like to me anyway, But I’m not sure.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, and also the dad was fat and slow.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> So it’s just common sense. But anyway, what a silly question. Bearded Indian usually has good questions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Aussie autistic says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hail Odin. Hail victory! Enjoy the solstice. Have a good Yuletide.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, thank you. Exactly! That’s coming up here soon. The 21st.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You’ve got midsummer this year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, that’s right. You get Midsummer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> So do you celebrate it upside down, too? Is that how you do it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We do, yeah. We hang out from the, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> The Hanged Man.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We hang from the trees.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Odin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, The Upside Down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Nine nights. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I sacrificed myself to myself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> One eye patch when Randall Flag says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thomas, Australia’s elite are primarily composed of old mining clans. From what I hear, they are the biggest turncoats who sold off your mines to the CCP. How do you propose on retaking your resources?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Interesting question.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> At bayonet point!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> What?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> At bayonet point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, there we go. Okay, well that explains it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. So many people ask me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How are you going to do this? How are you going to do that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’re just going to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Interesting small things to hone in on. But I mean, it’s not small, I guess.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But yeah, we’re just going to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> If there’s a will, I guess. Okay, we got one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The how we’re gonna do it? Well, when we’re close to it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, well, who knows?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> If you need to know, if you’re part of it, we’ll tell you, will be part of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> You will find out. How about that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s so many spectators. Imagine going down to the football match and you’re a spectator and you’re in the crowd. There’s like 10,000 people in the crowd and you’re just shouting at the coach:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How are you gonna get that touchdown? How are you gonna do it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> It’s impossible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Shut up!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You want to join the team? I’ll teach you. Join the team and I’ll teach you how we’re going to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s right. That’s a good answer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Sitting on the sideline:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How are you going to do this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All right, we get why democracy is really gay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, yeah, it’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Everyone wants a voice but no one wants to do the work. Everyone wants a voice, but no one wants to do it. The way it says, “<em>rights without duties</em>”, that’s the primary issue. So democracy that we’re going to build is “<em>rights and duties</em>”. You’ll get lots of rights, but you got to do the duties! You got to put your time in on the gun. They’re not inalienable:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m born so therefore, hahaha, I get everything!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, that’s how Rome collapsed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because that just creates a fat, weak, retarded society. Look what happened to the Romans. They were born with the privilege of being a Roman citizen. They didn’t have to work for it anymore. They have to fight for it! They didn’t have to do any duty. They forgot their own religion, everything. It just deteriorated them, because they forgot how to just put in the work for the race.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:15:35]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, it’s so hard, right? You get success breeds complacency and comfort. And then out of that it’s so hard to motivate the younger people and the kids specifically, obviously, that grow up in that. Right. They have the abundance, the affluence. It’s extremely hard. Right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Someone asked me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How are we going to take back the Commonwealth Bank?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Is <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that the priority?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> No, but we’re going to do it. We are going to do it. That’s part of policy too. It’s like we’re just going to take ownership of it:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What do you mean, but how are you going to do it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’re just going to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Trust the plan. All right, how about that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> What do you want? You want me to write like a 300 page essay on, like, how we’re going to manage all the branches?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Needed in writing Tom. Right now!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> How did they sell it? Did the guy that sold it off, did he write a 300 page? He probably did. Knowing democracy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Legalese wise. Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, they just sold it to their mates. They just got rid of it. They just sold it to their mates. They just had friends. And now it’s 1.3 trillion in the private sector and it was a state asset. They just gave it to their mates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep. Of course!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re just going to take it back!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> When do they do that by the way?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> 1996.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> 96, okay, interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> They just gave it to their mates. That’s what they did. They gave it to their mates. They gave it to their jewish mates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Of course. Okay, we got one more here. Alufaltruda, if I say that correctly:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What would you say to men who want to participate in the inner activism part of White Australia but aren’t yet physically fit? Would you allow fat guys or twigs to join the park training?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, we have fat guys and skinny guys at training. Yeah, we do. Like the fitness testing is not:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, you can’t hang out with us, associate with us or train with us if you don’t pass this testing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not how the testing works. The testing works is we’ve got a hierarchy where you don’t become an official member. There’s like a process where you go through like an initiation phase, like the bikies would call it, like a prospecting phase, like at work it might be called a trainee phase. You go through your apprenticeship, you go through like a trainee phase where you do six months and then you get promoted and you do another six months and you get promoted. But at those promotions you have to meet certain fitness standards.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there’s some guys that have been in the org three years and they haven’t been promoted because they have never worked on their fitness. They just come once a month, they hang out, they stand at the barbecue, they have a cigarette and you know what I mean, it’s like they’re a minority. They’re in the minority. There’s only a couple guys that do that it’s not a good culture if there was a whole bunch doing it. But when it’s just a couple guys coming down, they can keep an eye on things. They can do a bit of security, they can check license plates, they can help with the vetting. You know, they can be part of other operations that not everyone has to train.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But again, it is what it is. Different horses. We got Sausage Turners we got security guards, we got all sorts of people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> All right, the Bearded Indian has a second go here. I guess he must do a better question.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Let’s go round two.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> NSN must publicize the shit out of this. Every politician who promoted diversity is responsible for the mass murder. Job for the clippers to tether those politicians face together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, absolutely! Yeah. Now the online warfare is really important. And I mean the politicians, their reaction, I mean Burke, Marles and Albo, they are shaking! They are shaking in their boots. You can hear it in their voice. They got gay lisps. I mean, it is embarrassing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, there’s one video. You got to play it quickly. You got to play it quickly. I’ll find it, I’ll send it. I’ll DM it to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You’ve got to play this video. Oh, it is embarrassing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I’ll take the other one here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> This is Australia’s Defense Minister.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Find that there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I found it. I found it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay, yeah, send it to me. I’ll pull it up here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Check your DMs. You got to play this video.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, it’s through. Okay, let me save that down real quick there then. We’ll get that one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Of course I got some, the Rumble channel up in the meantime here as well. Well, I download that for White Australia. You guys are obviously on the main website. There is WhiteAustralia.org or simply WhiteAus. I think you can go to as well, dot org to get to the website.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:19:54]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> They both redirect. There’s a whole bunch of things that redirect to White Australia.org.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay, here we go. Let’s see if that downloaded here. I’m going to import that down properly. Doesn’t seem like it hopefully works. No file format. Oh, it’s still downloading. It’s slow as hell! Okay. Also in the meantime that. Well, I’m just waiting for that. Just be a couple of seconds. There’s a Telegram page obviously for White Australia as well. Then you have your personal one. Tom Sewell uncensored on Telegram. Any other social media links website where people can, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> I got a Gab. Thomas underscore Sewell. But I just don’t use it. I need to, but I just keep forgetting. But Gab feels pretty dead lately. I don’t know. We’re banned from Twitter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Next year I’m gonna try to get on Twitter and Instagram and just see how long I last. But we’re going to launch the policy parties first. I’ve got a list of priorities and then I’m going to just do like I’m going to spam videos and social media stuff and if I get a week, I’ll be really happy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay, here’s the clip. It’s down on Defense Minister Richard Marles. Here’s his comments. Check it out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sky News:</strong> Do you feel like there needs to be and should there be a greater emphasis on hate speech from Muslim clerics in the Western part of Sydney?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Richard Marles:</strong> I think. Look, I think as I said earlier, what we’ve done is criminalize more forms of hate speech, and we’ve criminalized the Nazi salute. Obviously that’s in its own context, but we need to be looking at all of this. And it is really important that we have., &#8230;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Sky News:</strong> So should there be a greater emphasis on this hate speech from Muslim clerics, then?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Richard Marles:</strong> I don’t want to. We will go through all of this. I emphasize that we have done more in terms of criminalising hate speech than we have seen from any other government. But we need to look at all of this and we need to make sure that we’ve got the right laws in place and that we are doing everything we can to keep safe that the vibrant multicultural society, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> There it is! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> There it is! Oh, my gosh! All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Please, please, Yahweh, send me your gayest, most retarded enemies. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That is funny!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> That’s Defense Minister of Australia, a gay retard!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> He seems genuinely rattled!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Tony Burke has got like this high pitched, I’ve never heard his voice go high pitch before. Tony Burke is like. He’s got like the fear complex at the moment when the media are asking questions. And he got booed. He came down to the memorial and the jews all booed him. And this is the guy that deported a neo-Nazi for the jews! And the jews are booing him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Doesn’t matter. Yep, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You deports Nazis, but you didn’t deport the Muslims.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, they do that right, though. And it sounds like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, you’ve been very good. You did this great. We’re very happy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, at that point, you have the opportunity to push really hard to get just much more of what you want. And how do you want the politicians to act for you on behalf of you? They know how to do that. Okay, we got two more here, Tom, before we let you go here. Line Crosses said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The police must have had so many angles on those shooters. Shooters were exposed, evident by the many camera angles on them. Sloppy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I heard one rabbi there, they interviewed him was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It must have been 20 minutes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or something. And it’s like. I don’t think it was 20 minutes. It probably felt like 20 minutes for the people that were there. But five maybe, I don’t know, maybe 10, I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Oh, it was almost 10. It was almost 10 minutes. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Which is a long time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Which is way too long. Like Bondi, the traffic’s bad, but there’s always cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve never not seen cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve always seen police at Bondi beach, usually in teams of two or teams of four.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the fact that it took 10 minutes to get to the shooting, to resolve the shooting, and took probably I don’t know, five minutes to get there. There’s video footage of cops driving past the bridge. So they had an angle to shoot out the window up that bridge. There’s cops driving past and they didn’t stop. They just kept going. So, yeah, despicable!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But fat Chungus. Not the Chungus that arrested Joel, but another Chungus was the one that got the killer shot on the dad. Really small Chungus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. There’s footage of the Chungus. There was a fat Chungus cop that got the shot off. So he wasn’t a beat cop. He was in a suit. So that just shows you know, there’s cops in dress shirts walking around, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:24:50]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> How did he get there? How did he get there before the cops that were in uniform. He’s not wearing a bulletproof vest either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the cop that got the shot off was just a fat Chungus from the office that might have been just getting lunch. I don’t know the story yet. But another interesting thing that I forgot to mention was the media, because a whole bunch of lifeguards tried to assist in the process as well. And there was lifeguards that were there on the scene before the cops got there, as well as the Aussies that just like stomped the two guys on the ground on the bridge. But there was a guy trying to read out the names of the lifeguards that had helped save people’s lives. And helped try to deal with it. And the media wouldn’t let this guy read out the names of the lifeguards. Because the media here in Australia, all they’re saying on the news is just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look at this brown guy that saved the day! Look at this jewish guy that saved the day. Look at all these heroes of multiculturalism!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like, they won’t read out the names. And they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“His name was Al Hamid Muhammad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they just say it like 20 times.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, you turn on the news and it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“And the hero was Al Hamid Muhammad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s just, on repeat, on repeat, on repeat!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like, they wouldn’t let a guy read out the names of the lifeguards that tried to help because it’s like Ben Stewart, Thomas Stevens. You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah, exactly! Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> All Aussie names.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I mean, the solution, therefore, is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let’s bring in a million more Muslims to protect us from the Muslims!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Right? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We need migrants to stop us from migrants!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Exactly! See, the good ones cancel out the bad ones, I guess, but they kill White Australians in the process, obviously. Yeah. People are asking chat here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What’s a chungus? Chubby, thick, large?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Is that the definition?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. Chungus is like a big fat chungus. You know, like a Big Chungus. It was like, I’ll just Google it. Big chungus. They don’t know the Big Chungus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s like the, &#8230; Bugs Bunny! Exactly! Yeah, that’s the bunny. Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> If you don’t know the Big Chungus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Home of the Brave says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The most white pilling is listening to Tom Sewell. Absolutely no one wants to step up in America, so I guess I’m gonna have to do it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that’s the spirit. That is not true, by the way. But that’s the spirit obviously. If you don’t think anyone does, then, yeah, you do it:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thanks for giving me hope and vectorizing the Vril.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hail home of the brave.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, I get a lot of DMs from Americans and they all want to be Australia’s Thomas Sewell. Sorry, America’s Thomas Sewell. I get a lot of DMs. I get a lot of people unsolicited in the DMs on Telegram and they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Check out my page, Tom. I’m the next Thomas Sewell!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I check out the page and it’s got two subscribers. And I’m like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Dude, I’m not going to be your third subscriber. I’m sorry, you’re going to have to put your time on the gun. You have to build up a bit of a following yourself.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Tom, can you share my page? I’m America’s Thomas Sewell!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, you’re not. You’re unfortunately not. I’m sorry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, we got another Thomas. Does a good job. Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> There’s Hammer. There’s all sorts of guys. There’s lots of guys in America. There’s a lot of guys that are not necessarily like doxed, like not name fagging, as they say on the chins. There’s a lot of guys that just, they just put in the work. They just build the active club or they build their organization. You know, they just put their folk first and they do it without the glory. And yeah, also a little bit off topic. I was in jail, so no one told me. No one told me Chris Cantwell’s a faggot! What the fuck happened? What the fuck is going on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I don’t wanna, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> He sent me a message like a week ago. He’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, man, can you share this post for me?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m like, I didn’t say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, all right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was like, in my head:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, all right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I always read everything first before I share. Always. And I’m like scrolling through and it was like something about gay sex. And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hang on a minute. What the fuck!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I read it again and I replied to him:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Chris, what the fuck are you talking about?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I sent it to the boys and they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, bro, did you not know?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No one told me. I was in prison. No one told me!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I went through his page and he was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“When I was 14, I had sex with a man. He wasn’t attractive.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What the fuck Chris, you fucking weird cunt!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Imagine that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Holy shit! He fell off.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Imagine that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> He was a bit of an oddball, but fuck, he fell off.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Some things kind of makes sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Eric Striker likes biting my ankles. I hope he’s biting Chris Cantwell’s ankles. Hopefully he doesn’t get AIDS.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Well, yeah, that’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Why are people having a go at me when there’s cunts like that! I should be, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I don’t think anyone’s giving him a pass, to be honest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, I get your point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:30:01]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> No one’s giving him a pass, but how did that fucking slip through to the keeper? Someone must have known!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Probably.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> You know, that’s one of our vetting questions. You know, that’s one of our vetting questions is that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“If someone tells you in secret something like that, would you share it with other people? Or would you keep it a secret?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s one of our vetting questions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> When did you start being gay? That’s the vetting question. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, exactly! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I shouldn’t be giving away our vetting questions. Antifa’s probably got through stage one. They just probably don’t get stage two or stage three. But like, that’s in stage one. Like, are you a fag sympathizer? We don’t want you. That’s how we got this problem in the first place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I’m sure they answer honestly on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Because in politics, there’s not many forces worse than gays. Like, there’s jews. Jews are worse! But like gays are fucked! They’re insidious. They’re absolutely insidious. They have to be just completely rooted out of every single organization. That’s how politics have been taken over. Like people that can be blackmailed. You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And yeah, gays are all ashamed of themselves. That’s why they have to take drugs to do it. They’re freaks! They’re disgusting freaks! There’s no normal gays. There’s no such thing as a normal gay. They’re all freaks! Don’t associate with them. Anyone that associates with gays, I don’t associate with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I agree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Even straight people. I just can’t tolerate anyone that’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I’ve got a gay friend.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nuke! See you later. Don’t talk to me again. Do not contact. Lose this number.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> We got Line Cross:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Small fat chungus has the most testosterone in the force.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s interesting. Isn’t that interesting? Megawatts 80:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, Tom!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Hi.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> There you go. I was waiting for a hi back. Line Cross again:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I can’t help but imagine the media crap storm if a member or two of the NSN was there and foiled that attack.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Oh, they probably wouldn’t have done much except get shotgun to the face!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Taking them out too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. I mean, to be fair, that one guy did disarm the fat chungus that ran down. It didn’t even make sense. Anyway, I won’t go into.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Rob Jasimer here says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Correct. Thank you, Rob.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> I think we’re caught up there. Thank you, Tom, so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. Always pleasure talking to you. Keep up the good work, the excellent work, the fantastic work you’re doing down there. We’re all watching and very interested in the development, not only, of course, the political kind of faction of this, the arm, the wing of what you’re doing, obviously, but yeah, it’s always a pleasure having you on, man! And anything else, closing thoughts you want to run through here before we wrap up for today?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> We’re gonna win! Yeah, I don’t have a closing spiel. I think I’ve said a lot today and yeah, just gas all the black pillers! Just don’t associate with black pillers. The worst humans in this movement are the black pillers. Just don’t associate with them. They’re like a social disease in the movement. And we have made so much progress over the years because we just gas the black pillers! We just get rid of them. We just don’t associate with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, you can be a critic, and you can be a fair critic and you can be realistic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> You want that part of it for sure. Shoot holes in everything. Right? But, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But you don’t want people that by their very nature they’re unhappy, they’re unlucky, they’re pessimistic. Don’t associate with these kinds of people because they will destroy your clique. They will destroy your movement, they will destroy your business, they will destroy your organization, they will destroy your family. Don’t associate with fundamentally unhappy, weak willed people! Just don’t associate with them. They’re just the chaff. You know what I mean? They’re just the chaff and they’re not going to make it. They’re just not going to make it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all the progress we have made as an organization has been this “<em>triumph of the will</em>”. You, when you get involved and you do five years or even less, like maybe within two or three years you might start to feel, you might feel the energy. Like you can feel the winds of change or the vibrations or whatever is. You can feel it and you can feel that progress coming from just these high vril, high energy like people, men and women, it’s male and female energy, in different ways. It’s obviously predominantly male energy in the movement. But that energy, that high virile energy, like there’s so many face doxed people, there’s so many people that aren’t face doxed, but they work really hard behind the scenes and they just love it! You’ve just got to love it! You’ve got to learn to love the struggle. You’ve got to learn to love this battle we’re in. And when you’re faced with adversity, you should always just see it as a challenge. You should always just see it as:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s what they’re throwing at us now. Oh, that’s where my life’s at now!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just take a step back, breathe, calm down, get your bearings and get stuck back in. Get back to work! And yeah, that’s the success of my organization. I don’t tolerate it. We just get rid of you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s why we’re growing. There was a point where we got stuck at 20, 30 guys. And building a little active club with five guys is pretty easy. It’s really easy. Almost everyone can do it. Almost anyone that’s not a retard can do it. You can build four or five guys in an active club. When you get to 20 to 30 guys, it becomes very difficult. You really need to have some leadership qualities.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:36:06]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But also you start to realize that not all 20 to 30 men are equal. And that you need to have a really good core. You need to have people that really have good energy and good commitment level and they’re there for the right reasons. They’re not just loser freaks that hate society and are looking for any kind of vagrant group to attach themselves to. You want to just stay clear of the loser freaks! You just don’t want losers! That doesn’t mean everyone has to be as corporate or like high paid or like big earner, tradesman, driving a nice car.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s not about status and it’s not about money. It’s about work ethic, it’s about integrity. Yeah, that’s way more important, that’s way more important than money. Don’t think that it’s about money. It’s got nothing to do with money. You’ll find that there’s lots of people with money that have really bad work ethic. They just know the right people, they went to the right school, their dad’s friends are wealthy, blah blah, blah. And that’s why they drive a $200,000 car.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas there’s men driving around five thousand dollar cars and they got a great work ethic. They’re hustlers and not in a gay cringe, corporate capitalist mindset, in terms of a political mindset. They get home, they’re video editing, they’re doing shit, they’re on Twitter, they’re Twitter maxing, they’re in the gym, they’re fighting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, so what? They drive a $5,000 a car, who cares? You know what I mean? Like they got a good work ethic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So yeah, you want to surround yourself with people that are willing to work for nationalism. They’re willing to put in the work. And pessimists and black pillers, they just want to sit there and just sink the boat, you know, Imagine you’re on a journey, you’re on a mission. You want cunts on the fucking oars! Get on the fucking oars! Let’s go!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Correct. Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And if you’ve got a skill, if you can navigate, if you can navigate, you got to first do your time on the fucking oars. We don’t need all this dead weight on the boat saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we should go this way or we should go that way!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Shut up! Get on the oar. All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah. Learn to work as a team first. Right? Kind of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And get in the rhythm.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Get your individuality, your emotions to the side. Just get rid of all of that and create a unit that can cooperate and then from there you can do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as you said, I mean, yeah, you should surround yourself with people that are smarter than you, that are better than you, they know more than you. And that creates an environment where you are all feeding off each other. You grow, you become better.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah. And you should lift people up that aren’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Oh, 100%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> But don’t waste time on people that are fundamentally broken. And the younger you are, the more time you waste on broken people. When I was young, I wasted years on broken people trying to help them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> And yeah, as Adolf Hitler says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“God helps no one that doesn’t help themselves. And German people, help yourselves!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I believe that about us as Aryans, as White people. Like we need to help ourselves. And yeah you don’t want to like cut off people too quickly. You want to give people time. Some people take six months, some people 12 months.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, you’re not always going to find yourself surrounded by people that are making more money than you or that are smarter than you or whatever. Sometimes you’re going to find yourself surrounded by people that are are less fit than you and, or, whatever the metric is that you’re measuring. And yeah, what mateship is about is about lifting up the guys around you know, and a good amount of positive bullying, a good amount of positive work. Inclusive bullying.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Shaming and bullying works 100%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Lift up the guys around you. That’s one way that an organization grows is that guys join and it’s not that you’re joining a self improvement society. Go join the Freemasons if that’s what you’re looking for! You know what I mean? Like our organization, the purpose of it isn’t a self improvement society, but I do believe that’s a side effect on it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s a positive side effect of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, exactly! Yeah. It’s a side effect of brotherhood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s a side effect of an effective brotherhood. All effective brotherhoods are do that. And what we have at the moment is like veterans organizations and men’s clubs and stuff like that. They’re all just like pity parties. I don’t go to them because I know that they’re gay as fuck, but I know people that go to these like guys that I was in the army with and you know, tradesmen, they go to these like groups that aren’t our group. They go to these like socially approved groups after work and it’s just like they’re just getting lectured by some faggot about toxic masculinity. And it’s just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How do you fucking put up with this? Like you don’t need friends that bad, dude. Like, just go to the gym!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:40:44]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Just making friends there, nothing else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, like a lot of the veterans organizations, for example, a bit off topic, but a lot of them are just that what you feed grows pity parties. They’re just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I have nightmares.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> It’s just like, fuck, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At some point you have to like a new vision, Focus on something new, fresh. And I know it sucks! I’m not trying to diminish it. But I’m saying also at some point you got to kind of keep busy, right? You got to get active and busy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Is that ever going to fix the problem?</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> No, no, it’s not.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> Yep, Correct.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Just get out of fucking bed. Find a purpose.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> No, no, it’s all good. All good. Dr. Jenstein:</p>
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<p>Yeah, I really appreciate it. Great conversation, Tom, as always, I appreciate you. And again, thanks. Salute to all of you and the guys over there. Hope Joel gets out soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> 23rd, hopefully.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> 23rd. Oh, really? Okay. So day before Yule. Okay, nice.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Yeah, a week.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> All right, well, say hi to him from us here at Red Ice. We’re thinking of him.</p>
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<p>All right, Tom, have a great Yule. Christmas done. Coming up here shortly, soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> Thank you for having me.</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> That’s right.</p>
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<p>And obviously I suppose you say Australia for the White man! We’ll see you later, Tom.</p>
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<p><strong>Thomas Sewell:</strong> The rest must go!</p>
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<p><strong>Henrik Palgren:</strong> The rest must go. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> There you go.</p>
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<p>All right, cheers. Take care. Thanks.</p>
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<p>All right, guys, there we go. Thank you so much to Tom again for joining us. We appreciate you.</p>
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<p>All right, we’re gonna wrap up right there. I do want to say thanks to our executive producers though, before we let you go, but a little plug here for tomorrow. We’re talking with Sven Longshanks and of course he was imprisoned by the UK system for essentially podcasting. That will be live at 2 PM Eastern, which is 8 o’ clock Central European time. Eight in the evening, obviously. We got Flashback Friday coming up on Friday.</p>
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<p>After that, 5 PM Eastern. That’s 11 in the evening, 2300 hours Central European time. And then we’ll take a little break about a week or so. we’ll take a little yule break and then we’ll be back with more after that, obviously, but a few more shows before we take a break. So also before we wrap up here, where are you guys? Where do we want to find my executive producers? You’re hiding somewhere. Great way to support us, of course, is to get a membership. I can do that plug while I’m looking for that too. Redicemembers.com we have Red Icetv.locals.com subscribestar.com Redice. 10 bucks a month helps us tremendously. Might not make that much of a big, big difference to you individually, but the more of you guys who do it helps us tremendously. So we can continue to do this and do more and do better and do all the things we want to do. So do consider it.</p>
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<p>Here we go. Here’s our executive producers for today as well. Albert. Arctic Wolf, first out the gates. Thank you so much, Albert, for your incredible support. We have William Fox from America First Books as well. Thank you, William. We got Angry White Soccer Mom. Thank you for your support.</p>
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<p>We also have Purple Haze. Thank you for being an executive producer. And we got Glenn. Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate your support as well. Also Down Under, I believe. Thank you, Glenn. We got Red Pill Rundown. Thank you for being there for us so we can be there for you. We got President Obunga. Thank you for your support as well. Then we got Teutonic Werebear. We’re appreciate you. Thank you Werebear.</p>
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<p>All right guys, that’s it done for us today. Thank you so much for joining us again. Thanks to Tom. Great show as always. We’ll be back tomorrow with Sven Longshanks actually. Folk first ladies and gentlemen. We’ll see you tomorrow.</p>
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<p>BeornBeorning<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Great guest!</p>
<p>RestitutorOrbis1028<br />
VerifiedLocals Supporter<br />
2 days ago<br />
Australia was batshit crazy &#038; cruel during Cοvid; I will never forget it. Ontario &#038; British Columbia (Canada) come in close behind.</p>
<p>Soozysuz<br />
Supporter<br />
3 days ago<br />
Also the government are so dumb, they don’t even know they have created this right wing movement. There’s no stopping it when they have forced us into this situation. If they weren’t over controlling fuckheads, we could all be living in peace and enjoying life.</p>
<p>Soozysuz<br />
Supporter<br />
3 days ago<br />
The government are terrified of you guys. After your speech at MFA in August, I had to find out what you were all about, brocade it certainly wasn’t what they were trying to tell us. If been a keen listener ever since. As a woman in my mid 50’s it makes me so happy to see strong young men prepared to do what it takes to take this country back. I grew up in the best times and never imagined we’d be where we are now. Australia is barely recognisable. I really hope we can turn this ship around  Hail <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>6millionbagels<br />
3 days ago<br />
Brilliant interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Jaymeo1<br />
4 days ago<br />
Tom is the future</p>
<p>Bee1970Something<br />
4 days ago<br />
Israel and their puppets keep causing bullshit and the current so-called leaders all fleece us for this greed</p>
<p>PansophicGothi<br />
4 days ago<br />
Greg Johnson is a normal gay man, and Joel Davis did a live stream with him in 2025. I get the tendency to act like zero tolerance, but that doesn&#8217;t really mesh with reality, it&#8217;s usually more complicated and nuanced.  (Chris Cantwell went off the deep end though.)<br />
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<p>BeornBeorning<br />
5 days ago<br />
&#8220;&#8230;doing everything we can to keep safe the vibrant multicultural society&#8230;&#8221; LMAO<br />
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<p>Lueger<br />
6 days ago<br />
41:00 Striker and those around him have no f&#8217;g idea about the obnoxiousness of the mohammedans in Europe and everywhere else they exist outside of the US. The Jew-S has traditionally filtered out the above-average to below-average sorts and allowed in only the absolute top-level, unislamic intellectuals. I went to Europe as a convinced opponent of semitism, and learned in Europe that opposition to semitism must include opposition to all semites. Jew and arab alike have an ideology of perpetual innocence, mixed with an inclination to communism and lasciviousness. They are both disgusting and should properly be confined to their deserts, pushed off of the coasts of the eastern Mediterranean.</p>
<p>Vasili1<br />
6 days ago<br />
you may be interested in watching&#8211; Jews in Australia 2 – Ernie Rolando Dec 2025 (+ Critical Race Theory) https://www.bitchute.com/video/KbCDmGx8xsOK</p>
<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Ah you&#8217;re an anti-semite (You said that around 2 hours in). Well I guess that means I should go and protect the real Whites then, the negative blood types (myself inclusive).   Jews aren&#8217;t the real semites, but if you have all connection with Christ by blood well then we negative blood types deserve better than being annihilated by the jews, directly targeted and abused not only by people on Earth, but wondering why almost all our lives we&#8217;re being targeted by demons and fallen angels so much and jews trying to replace us and then also annihilated potentially by neo nazi&#8217;s and replaced there too? I&#8217;ve cried deeply enough, shed enough blood and sweat. We&#8217;ve gone through enough us negative blood types, don&#8217;t deserve attacks instead of being cherished and protected and also considering how much we&#8217;ve also done, which means none of you would be here otherwise to even be able to fight. Most of us didn&#8217;t even know that we were blood of Christ and his ancestors until only a few years ago, even though the jews have known and tried to cover it up all along. I&#8217;ve connected with negative blood types the last few years and they&#8217;ve all pretty much said the same thing, we&#8217;re being hunted more so than anyone else in the world and almost all I spoke to were Christian or I didn&#8217;t know and I&#8217;ve spoken to quite a few groups.  I&#8217;m against multiculturalism of all non-Whites with Europeans, Scandinavians (Greenland inclusive) and Whites I don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s going to go with you lot not accepting we&#8217;re actually the real Whites if that&#8217;s how you&#8217;re going about it. I&#8217;d like an apology at least from the UK people from hating on me throughout school when I was a little girl because they were fucking racist against Polish people and framing Polish people for what the nazi&#8217;s or rather the jews actually did. Sick.  I think there&#8217;s clear reason, negative blood types have to protect our own community worldwide. I might as well go pass on the msg because I don&#8217;t need anyone not being loyal to us.</p>
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boicotinho2<br />
1 week ago<br />
lmao, &#8220;the jews arent the real jews&#8221;. what a nonsense<br />
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
&#8220;What a nonsense?&#8221; lol Have a look at yourself in the mirror and then you&#8217;ll see what real nonsense looks like. If you want to be roasted, mate, I have all day and shit ton load of experience, (no pun intended and frankly it ain&#8217;t shit but since you&#8217;re so literal worse than an actual autistic then lets go with heap ton load instead). I&#8217;ve grown and healed through these time loops like you can&#8217;t imagine despite the BS torture I&#8217;ve had to endure. You&#8217;ll tire out quicker than it takes a cork to blow from a shaken up bottle of cheap sparkling (not even champagne).   Jews are not the real line of Christ and his ancestors. Happy? I can&#8217;t fucking edit these posts and they allow only 2,000 characters as you well know so it doesn&#8217;t let me say everything to a dumbass like you. People with half a brain or holes in it know what I&#8217;m saying, you can&#8217;t, you&#8217;re that retarded? I don&#8217;t have time nor energy for shitty connection, do better. Be kind, instead, takes healing. You eating your wild blueberries? (Clearly not).</p>
<p>whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
he&#8217;s obviously unhinged,  pity the poor minded<br />
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<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Sorry for the many posts but each post only allows 2,000 characters. So it&#8217;s not just the demons that need to be killed, it&#8217;s also the fallen angels. If we don&#8217;t kill the core of the problem, those fallen will just manipulate people on Earth again, get them accepting &#038; loving their demons &#038; doing sick shit like they did at the Colosseum. According to Anthony William attacking family members because they were forced to while the whole stadium was screaming. Plus people doing things like what they are today, today&#8217;s style canaanite. Joshua, Saul &#038; David (those negative blood types) killed all these jews that went rancid because God directed them to. This is a battle that&#8217;s been going on for thousands of years but for some reason what is God waiting for with the fallen? How is it that our God tells Joshua NKJV 7:10-12 to kill the filth amongst him &#038; won&#8217;t be with Joshua unless he does, yet Jesus our God doesn&#8217;t kill all the filth amongst his realm &#038; the spiritual. We have to investigate further what&#8217;s going on here. Either way, the audiobook is: &#8220;Angels, Demons and Spiritual Tools,&#8221; you can get it on Spotify as well. Takes 7 hours to listen, about 10min a day to do the excersizes even if you don&#8217;t believe in them. For me when I even just started listening to it, my life situation improved &#038; I became more confident against the spiritual &#038; celestial realms that house these filth demons. You can bet all the sick jews are turned demon in the afterlife because satan comes to collect if God&#8217;s angels don&#8217;t come to collect you. The afterlife, is another battle, unfortunately &#038; I don&#8217;t know about you lot, but I&#8217;m already exhausted by the immense full blown attacks I&#8217;ve already received in a frickin&#8217; time loop that I was forced to endure repeats of as well, still am. I know a lot, don&#8217;t know too much about how to get myself out of a time loop, any Jesus Christ following Christians know? Anyway, otherwise I&#8217;m going to have to wait until Christ comes &#038; that could mean we lost.</p>
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RestitutorOrbis1028<br />
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2 days ago<br />
On a social-media post, if you cannot write a concise comment within a few sentences, you need to fundamentally reconsider your language &#038; communication skills. Honestly, trying to provide constructive criticism. Do your best to shoot for a few sentences, one paragraph.  Cheers <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f37b.png" alt="🍻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
1:30:00 thereabouts, none of the flying cars &#038; the proper architecture &#038; all of us getting along won&#8217;t happen until the demons in the spiritual realm are killed &#038; everyone needs to be taking THAT seriously.  Unfortunately I have to quote Anthony William even though that audiobook was actually half me because he took my personal previous situation where I was screaming at my v2k attackers &#038; crying hysterically from the heat &#038; the spike protein stabs within my body &#038; senses. I didn&#8217;t realise at that point that they had given it to all the cows as well (so everyone is vaccinated unfortunately, need to eat their wild blueberries &#038; all the powders from Christian brand Vimergy, can also get it from the floweroflife.com website to clean that nano out). They just keep dumping nano at us daily, in the air, it&#8217;s part of the chemtrails, it&#8217;s in the water, dairy, you&#8217;re around vaccinated you literally can&#8217;t get away from it. You can minimise your exposure though &#038; clean it out daily so you&#8217;re as close to God as possible, not as close to those cia agents &#038; their ai as possible. At that part of the loop a few years ago Russia &#038; America (jews) were threatening the world with drones that could kill you upon impact using facial recognition &#038; were using them at Ukraine border. Poland had a machine to zap them upon impact, I realised checkmate wasn&#8217;t really checkmate, I screamed what he is saying now in the audiobook made one loop after it happened. He really should have co-authored me but he supports some jews, apparently the better ones &#038; I refuse all jews. That situation you can truly know how evil these satanists are when they abuse their power &#038; think no one is around to help you or that you can&#8217;t help yourself, which is all I had.   Not only that but demons power the energy for these satanists, people have said that the reason Clintons are so powerful is because they used sex magic to attach demons to their soul this was a purposeful intent not always does sex magic do this.</p>
<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
You neo nazi&#8217;s may also be interested to know, that Hitler actually had his own hypnotist and he was using him throughout all the crowd speeches he did. It clearly was greatly effective, how do you think mesmeric techniques from Anton who used to live in Germany in the 1800s ended up actually freeing Germany from them jews? Biggest mistake Hitler made was going after Poland though. That was dumb. Jesus Christ knows all about hypnosis and mesmerism. It was used over 5,000 years ago as a healing modality. The history of Hypnosis and where it&#8217;s going in each country is actually kind of fascinating. In other words, you don&#8217;t attack God&#8217;s children!</p>
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whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
loving your uneducated comments.</p>
<p>boicotinho2<br />
1 week ago<br />
Jewsus Christ is just jewish mythology!<br />
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
At 21min, JimmyDee on YT (hope I spelt that right) he&#8217;s got about 10k YT following, one one of his videos he mentions this video &#038; this person &#038; showing a photo of him getting painted with red paint and the video from TV. He also mentioned, &#8216;so all of a sudden this guy has no more head split&#8217; I can&#8217;t remember exactly the quote, but it was along those lines, I thought that was a really good point. Young guy, mixed race, hates muslims as well &#038; love the fact he calls out the jews in everyone of his videos. VizzGitt on YT is also good at that too but less often, but they don&#8217;t seem to have a lot of subs, I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s brainwashed people that don&#8217;t follow them or it&#8217;s the jews that are punishing them with algorithms.   At 1 point I thought Mel Gibson was bad when I started getting attacked heavily with the microwave weapons attacked while cleansing, because I wondered why they were using mesmerism to try and hypnotise me so much that I had to block the signals with scalar healing aka longitudinal hz frequency, which does block negative frequencies from the 5g &#038; breaks hypnosis without being killed because CIA they do that kill switch within you. I&#8217;m pretty proud I actually was 1st to figure it out but it was also because of that lady that researched and developed scalar wave healing. I did add her I forgot her name now but you can still find her on YT. But CIA with the nano were using what I sensed as Mel&#8217;s voice or something it was the sound behind his voice it was like oh it&#8217;s so tough to explain, like water has sound waves, when you speak it&#8217;s the subconscious waves that come through from the neurotransmitters of the heart, I could pick up on that because I did Heart Math. CIA Ai betrayed Mel and all of us they used his energy without his consent &#038; used it to attack me with. I&#8217;m pretty sure they also tried with the strongest hypnotists in the world.   Pauline Hanson hates muslims and ching chongs, but supports the satanists, the false jews. It&#8217;s nuts.<br />
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<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
As a professional from what I call &#8220;unhypnotist&#8221; which was my own technique when I asked God what I needed to do with my life decades ago and I had to unravel what the TV and the radio signals were doing to peoples brains by helping them lead them into their subconscious so they could clean it up with Jesus Christ&#8217;s guidance. If only I could help more people, but I&#8217;ve been attacked to not unhypnotise people from the media, I think more people in Australia would have be woken up and not woke. I also know what the CIA have done. I was trained by the same man (who is Aussie) that taught Mel Gibson and traveled to America to teach him. So yes, Mel Gibson is in fact also a Hypnotist and we were taught the strongest method from Anthon Mesmer, his techniques are still used in Germany to get rid of varicose veins. They don&#8217;t give you pain medication nor local anesthetic, they use rapid inductions to destabilise the pain immediately and within a few seconds make a few slits and rip out the varicose vein, apparently it&#8217;s painless. I have recently found you can heal varicose veins naturally with wild foods.  Anyway the reason I mention hypnosis is because CIA hypnotised a guy after many days and convinced him to kill himself by walking out a high story window, don&#8217;t remember if it was 2nd or 3rd level building. All those shooters are heavily hypnotised, CIA also know mesmerism but they&#8217;re not as good as us here in Western Australia, the most amount of mesmerists in the world, let alone hypnotists. What they teach you in uni alongside Psychology is a watered down version of hypnosis there are no rapid inductions. It&#8217;s the Ericksonian technique developed by an American, only useful once a person is actually in hypnosis because it&#8217;s using visual imagery to clear out old patterns, your brain responds well with visual imagery.   Fucking Wong. She&#8217;s probably a clone made in China then sent to be a handler to the government leader. I wonder when she&#8217;ll start falling apart.</p>
<p>corella64<br />
1 week ago<br />
Rumble censorship blocks personal views<br />
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<p>corella64<br />
1 week ago<br />
One indian is too many indians in Australia.<br />
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<p>BBrand89<br />
1 week ago<br />
Bikes grape kids</p>
<p>corella64<br />
1 week ago<br />
Globalism, mass immigration and multiculturalism is -anti-white- majority. The enemy from within and without. Bad DNA admixed with northern european DNA for future generations is deranged, corrupt, debased, degenerate etc. Defend you DNA stock, quality over quantity!</p>
<p>corella64<br />
1 week ago<br />
Both semitic tribes, jewish and islamic and their extended religious nationalities at war with white european majority nations, and winning at Bondi.</p>
<p>TVR_<br />
1 week ago<br />
Hail Thomas Sewell</p>
<p>scootera<br />
1 week ago<br />
Great Conversation</p>
<p>katana17<br />
1 week ago<br />
[Red Ice TV &#8211; Bondi Beach Shooting &#038; White Australia with Thomas Sewell &#8211; Dec 17, 2025 &#8211; Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/12/18/red-ice-tv-bondi-beach-shooting-white-australia-with-thomas-sewell-dec-17-2025-transcript/  [In this live stream video Thomas Sewell from White Australia joins Henrik to talk about the effort to take back Australia, the Bondi Beach shooting and the political aspirations of White Australia party.  Points discussed include:  The shooting occurred during a Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach on December 14th [2025]. The attackers were a father and son duo, one of whom was born in Australia to an Indian father and Italian mother. The son had converted to Islam and received religious training; he was also linked to ISIS. The attackers allegedly targeted jews specifically, though many others were injured. “We’re surprised it doesn’t happen more often,” said Sewell, referencing Muslim rhetoric in Australia. Sewell says Muslims in gyms and job sites often express extreme anti-Jewish views. He criticises conspiracy theories suggesting the attack was staged or fake. “Sometimes Muslims just kill people,” dismissing Mossad-related theories. He says the jewish event was not random—it was advertised and attended by prominent Zionists. Arsen Ostrovsky, an Israeli human rights lawyer, was present at the event. Sewell notes Ostrovsky arrived in Australia weeks earlier to “fight anti-semitism.” The father was killed during the attack; the son was recently brought out of a coma. Some Aussies tried to intervene and were mistakenly targeted by police. Sewell contrasts police response to White nationalists vs. Muslim terrorists. “If you’re a White nationalist, they pull the gun out on you immediately.” Female police officers on the scene were ineffective and had “mental breakdowns.” Sewell describes the police as cowardly and unprepared for real violence. He criticises the Australian government for focusing on “Nazis” instead of real threat. And more, &#8230;<br />
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Spectroscopy_<br />
1 week ago<br />
anyone know what happend to stormfront?</p>
<p>JWMickleMusic<br />
VerifiedSupporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
another fantastic interview. Hail Victory! \\\</p>
<p>Henry000<br />
1 week ago<br />
Excellent interview. All Australian Whites should vote for his party. They have nothing left to lose.<br />
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<p>J0hnConn0r<br />
1 week ago<br />
Shadow banning comments fucking pathetic<br />
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<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
The islanders brought over to Queensland in the old days for the sugar cutting were the Kanakas.</p>
<p>Winstein_Synagoguehill<br />
1 week ago<br />
Eric Striker is such a brain dead shut in. Every serious Nationalist considers him a fool.<br />
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<p>Anglojim4<br />
1 week ago<br />
This is not a criticism. It was a great discussion and Thomas Sewell is a highly intelligent leader with some great policies. But perhaps he could curb using lots of swear words. I understand it’s the way blokes talk. But Mr Sewell is the leader of a party, which has great potential in Australia, and could attract votes from a wide range of men and women from different age groups</p>
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PansophicGothi<br />
4 days ago<br />
Typically I agree with you (re: Joe Rogan etc), but it does seem to be that&#8217;s just how normal people in Australia talk, different culture. You might as well try to get them to stop using the ridiculous accent.</p>
<p>whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
i expect tom will be more tactful when he&#8217;s dealing with politicians and the like.   yes he could be more statesman like , however we are lucky to have him.</p>
<p>Seppl88<br />
1 week ago<br />
Jews and Fags are at the centre of all evil. Himmler understood the Fag problem.<br />
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<p>katana17<br />
just now<br />
[Heinrich Himmler &#8211; Speech about Homosexuality to the SS Group Leaders &#8211; Feb 18, 1937 &#8211; Transcript] https://katana17.com/2014/10/30/heinrich-himmler-on-homosexuality/</p>
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nemo74<br />
1 week ago<br />
Nobody gives a fuck about what you don’t like. If people have theories, people have theories fucking deal with it dummy. Typical Australian. Wanna stifle freedom of speech. Guess you shouldn’t have given up your guns. Eh mate?</p>
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RealPolitiko<br />
1 week ago<br />
Go suck off some muslims u retard</p>
<p>whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
up the meds laddie, sounds like you need it.</p>
<p>kingogondo1<br />
Verified<br />
1 week ago<br />
Fantastic show. Every minute.</p>
<p>BattleAxe77<br />
1 week ago<br />
Yet its the Jews who love Cultural Marxism and mass migration. As long as they can have their Jewish state Israel<br />
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<p>SkoobyDew<br />
1 week ago<br />
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<p>WheresMySpaceship<br />
1 week ago<br />
While those men should never have been in your country. You don&#8217;t hate them enough! If only anti-white zionists and jews died&#8230; (you know the people who all stick together but try to destroy you if you do, want you dead, humiliated, broke, powerless, and to genocide anyone non-jewish) Uh&#8230; Nothing of value was lost. The only issue is any government crack down.  Disagree? (Check my logic versus yours. Understand I&#8217;m not the one with the mental illness&#8230; You are!)</p>
<p>Garbear78<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
white power!!<br />
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<p>Brandonkane<br />
Verified<br />
1 week ago<br />
Holy Crap you’re on Rumble? This is amazing. I haven’t been able to find you guys in so long<br />
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<p>Tmizzle89<br />
1 week ago<br />
HAIL THOMAS SEWELL <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>BurningCross<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
we can have guns. Just nothing practical for self defense and you have to beg the police and get formal training and get licensed and then the cops can raid your house whenever they want. cope more ozzies</p>
<p>boicotinho2<br />
1 week ago<br />
Not super convinced about their arguments from 21:00 onwards. I find it too much of a cohencidence that this propaganda lawyer was also an october 7 survivor<br />
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RealPolitiko<br />
1 week ago<br />
You&#8217;re most likely brown since you&#8217;re one of those retards who always say muslims can never do nothing wrong, it&#8217;s always someone else&#8217;s fault. Like Thomas said: jews and muslims both need to get out of our White countries.<br />
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
He&#8217;s not the first one to say it though.<br />
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<p>J_Cheever_Loophole<br />
1 week ago<br />
Don&#8217;t forget, tiny Rhodesia was fighting, and winning, against both Chinese backed communist terrorists, and USSR backed communist terrorists&#8230;.what made them lose the war and hand the country back to the blacks was American embargoes and the US bullying the UK into cutting them off too, just as they did with Cuba and more recently Venezuela, as my Great Aunt who lived there said, &#8220;You can&#8217;t win a war without bombs and bullets&#8221;  And just a few years later, the US bullied the rest of the world into supporting embargoes against South Africa and the exact same thing happened&#8230;forced to had over control to the blacks and to watch as their country was utterly destroyed&#8230;.and many forget, South Africa was a nuclear power until then too&#8230;  So it is the US you need to watch, especially their money lenders!. They knew they had to destroy those countries or else white men would flee there from Europe and the US&#8230; Now there is no white homeland, none at all&#8230;.but if there is one positive note it is that a tiny military, well trained and well motivated.can win against incredible odds&#8230;just beware the USA&#8230;</p>
<p>Mogus1488<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
Good stream but I did want to correct that the isis flag is banned still in Australia<br />
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<p>BradC1988<br />
1 week ago<br />
Hail Thomas Sewell, Hail NSN, Hail Victory!! o///<br />
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<p>nicestgoy<br />
1 week ago<br />
sign up whiteaus<br />
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<p>GreenGladeAryan<br />
1 week ago<br />
Hall the Leader o/<br />
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<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
Chris Minns is insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMbdLd-jwg&#038;t=584s</p>
<p>Fawkes2<br />
1 week ago<br />
DEPORT ALL SEMITES<br />
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Excuse you, you mean deport all jews.<br />
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<p>MonThirteen<br />
1 week ago<br />
Thank you so much Henrik, you’re an awesome interviewer. You let Thomas cook. His last interview on jake shields was almost unwatchable. Dan constantly butting in, trying to steer topics to what he wanted. This interview was a breath of fresh air. When you have a genius on its best to listen and not ask stupid questions. Hail o/ FREE JOEL DAVIS.<br />
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boicotinho2<br />
1 week ago<br />
Both inteviews was good. IMO the one with Shields and Belzerian wad even better than this one</p>
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MonThirteen<br />
1 week ago<br />
Belzerian is like a newbie in comparison to Thomas. He kept interrupting and steering the conversation to his limited knowledge. When you have Thomas on a show, it’s time to shut up and learn.</p>
<p>renunciate<br />
Supporter+<br />
1 week ago<br />
You’re still “fit &#038; proper” Mr Sewel.<br />
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<p>BroadcastAdvisor<br />
1 week ago<br />
Lot a talk. No solutions. What&#8217;s the SOLUTION for AMERICA? Keep waiting to hear something &#8230;  The Titanic isn&#8217;t going to fix itself.   We need a new Republic and in the new Republic we&#8217;d need ( among many things ), a 4th branch of gov&#8217;t. 2 citizens PER official &#8211; their only job being watch them for any signs of treason. Pay = $100k + a year. Their reports go to a CIA ( Citizens Intelligence Agency ), for a deeper look. IF treason&#8217;s found they get a military tribunal.  This, in our enlarged all white CSA II.  There ya go. A great topic for an upcoming show.<br />
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<p>yogafiretate<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
The commonwealth bank market cap is 250b not 1.3t bro is retarded</p>
<p>Goat_Moag<br />
1 week ago<br />
Speaking of banners. No foreign loyalties amendment. &#8220;No person holding foreign loyalties, foreign passports, or oaths to foreign actors, shall hold political office or government position, or other positions of trust.&#8221; Rough draft of course. Something of such importance certainly needs consideration, though the rough draft seems pretty good. The journey being more important than the destination (as far as getting an amendment passed, not that that would be a bad thing). The journey being to build a movement / coalition, and a banner to get behind.<br />
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<p>Bentley2177<br />
1 week ago<br />
Absolutely everything Tom speaks on is 100% correct!<br />
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<p>Bigboy6669<br />
1 week ago<br />
hail<br />
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<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
54:36 Propaganda!! How about our governments boot all the non natives out<br />
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<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
52:32 It&#8217;s disgusting. How dare the globalists fuck up the West like this<br />
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<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
100 years on the native whites are slowly waking up and will no longer be bludgeoned by the Holocaust and carrying Hitlers efforts<br />
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whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
correct i was bludgeoned for over 60 years of allie propaganda,however thanks to people like david irving i have seen the way forward.   go the NSN</p>
<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
29:41 This is ridiculous!! Why is the West Infiltrated with non natives!! Whites only in power!!</p>
<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
27:20 Virtue signaling about Anti-semetism. I and I am sure the native white Australians dont care about Anti-semetism!!! I care about white genocide and replacement<br />
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<p>AdamUnsalted<br />
1 week ago<br />
The more Whites notice bad Jewish behavior, the more the Jews open the gates for brown immigration.<br />
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<p>DJTriumph<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
great show keep up the good fight, stay positive <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>Megawatts80<br />
VerifiedSupporter+<br />
1 week ago<br />
the best thing about Tom is that not only is he highly intelligent, but he&#8217;s also the leader of White Australia because he&#8217;s the strongest, and there&#8217;s some very strong members of his org, and he is still the strongest. a true icon.<br />
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PansophicGothi<br />
4 days ago<br />
So NSN functions like Orks ? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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whitehonkymonkey<br />
3 days ago<br />
the establishment must be looking in and thinking how they can eliminate tom from the system as he&#8217;s gone and done a lot of study,which makes him dangerous to the system . i hope the NSN have plenty more like him as back up  used to find tom too radical, however the system has gone so radical the other way,that national socialism is the only position left to us.  keep up the good work tom your a credit to the whiteman.</p>
<p>Seppl88<br />
1 week ago<br />
I am in Sydney; Bondi is 20 km away. It is a Jewish Ghetto; they like to ghettoize themselves. The media and government are frantic but only in pushing the line that &#8220;anti-semitism&#8221; is to blame and we need more gun control. Not citing the obvious that multi-culturalism is violent, also these Indian shooters had legal guns. They want to bring in even harsher hate speech laws to curb the White Nationalists&#8217; criticism of Jewish power. This was about payback for Gaza and nothing else. It is unfortunate that this achieved nothing, it has created more sympathy for Jews and has not hurt ZOG, only will punish white interests. Resist the tyranny, Tom is the man with a plan!<br />
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Make Bondi jew free again!<br />
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<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
They can&#8217;t call themselves semites, they don&#8217;t have the blood type, proven by the shroud and Dr Serafini the Italian Cardiologist.</p>
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mcdawggg<br />
1 week ago<br />
No one cares. Just get all the foreigners out of our country.<br />
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<p>Globalist_Juice<br />
1 week ago<br />
Always good to hear from Tom, thank you Henrik.<br />
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<p>beautifulphallus<br />
1 week ago<br />
Harold Holt was Prime Minister in the late 1960s</p>
<p>CoomernistFaggot<br />
1 week ago<br />
White is right.<br />
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<p>Knights_Messiah<br />
1 week ago<br />
Tighten gun laws.. Seems almost like Islam did the attack with this consequence in mind. Screw over the white natives even more<br />
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AdamUnsalted<br />
1 week ago<br />
Islam is the broom of israel.<br />
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<p>Callisterz<br />
1 week ago<br />
Keep pushing your limits!<br />
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<p>Malthus<br />
1 week ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2623.png" alt="☣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a9.png" alt="💩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2721.png" alt="✡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a9.png" alt="💩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2623.png" alt="☣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> BONDI BEACH JEWISH MOSSAD BS EXPOSED! https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ok14qM0D4Qpz<br />
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DJTriumph<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
Bitchute is banned in the UK<br />
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Malthus<br />
1 week ago<br />
ProtonVPN<br />
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<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Use Tor Browser? It&#8217;s pretty much just a VPN but free.</p>
<p>Downunderdickhead<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
Good on ya Tom! Only bloke who can pull the country out of this mess! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE<br />
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liebedich<br />
Supporter<br />
1 week ago<br />
Oi! Oi! Oi!<br />
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<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Excuse you, I&#8217;m doing a pretty good job too, you all wouldn&#8217;t be here without me!</p>
<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Besides the fact that you choose a jew, a muslim, a serpent, a grey alien, pick a time and date and weapon of choice was my idea from about 4 years ago. That wasn&#8217;t any of the neo nazi&#8217;s ideas so if they don&#8217;t also credit me they&#8217;re in trouble!</p>
<p>HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala<br />
1 week ago<br />
Also you wouldn&#8217;t know that cia as in the satanists as in the jews have access to our timelines, if it wasn&#8217;t for me speaking out about it you&#8217;d all still be wasting your time in arrears you can&#8217;t make a dent in because the serpents with the jews will just amend the timeline and outcome back to the way they want it, they can&#8217;t do everything though. Through these timelines I&#8217;ve watched an American brotherhood kill the jews in America and it got reverted, I also saw other attacks and that also got reverted which Is why I said in the first place that it needs to be a worldwide thing at the same time and then we have to factor in the time travelers and their armies, because they&#8217;ll be at us too because having control of the future is a very powerful thing.  If I wasn&#8217;t speaking out and made it by cleansing in this time loop and a seer from God none of you would know when to attack or where, and certainly not know when.  If you want your enemy not to know your next move, you&#8217;ve got to cleanse with wild blueberries, why do you think I&#8217;m so onto that at the moment hmmm? Go get all the powders from Vimergy. Even jew Harari told you the luciferinase is a weapon &#8220;surveillance under the skin&#8221; is what he said in an interview it&#8217;s still up on YT. No I don&#8217;t take drugs, nor drink nor smoke and I&#8217;ve been cleansing heavily for more than 5 years with wild foods and even before that with dry cleansing and water fasting from 6yo. I&#8217;ve also been screened by 4 professionals and I&#8217;m no way delusional, I don&#8217;t have bi polar nor any of those kinds of things, I&#8217;m not schizophrenic either although I have had the v2k attacks which falsely say it&#8217;s schizo when it&#8217;s a weapon. Amy Holem has already proven this with her inventions to pick up on the radio signals, the micro waves, that means yes the microwaves and longitudinal waves that are coming at us. Actually I&#8217;m not sure if she picks up on the longitudinal because they go passed all devices including your own bones, it&#8217;s the make-up of us.</p>
<p>BeornBeorning<br />
6 days ago<br />
Oi!<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Patriots Against the Political Police</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Tue, Nov 4, 2025</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell talk about the following:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel apologise for being late due to technical difficulties.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel has moved to Sydney: “I live in Sydney now, we don’t get to hang out so much, which is sad”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Remembrance Day approaching on November 11th. They emphasise remembering WWI soldiers: “More Australians gave their life in the First World War than basically every other war we’ve ever fought combined”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Historical context of ANZAC motivations: “The Anzacs were fighting for a White Australia. That’s what they thought they were fighting for”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Australian Federal Police targeting NSN: “Our understanding is that the NSN is looking at whether they can form themselves as a political party”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Australian Federal Police forming special teams: “the AFP has formed new teams, the National Security Investigations Teams”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The AFP’s oncern about “disturbing behaviour” that’s not criminal: “not actually meeting the threshold to have a look at where we can actively work in the preventative and disruptive space”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of focus on “social cohesion”: “Apparently the AFP is less concerned with people killing police officers than they are with us forming a political party because we might hurt people’s feelings”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Political policing: “This is clearly unconstitutional, illegal. This is like a communist country”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Comparison to historical secret police: “they’re basically admitting that they’re like the Stasi, they’re like the NKVD”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of Australian Right-wing response: “what cowardice from the Australian Right-wing where basically none of them said anything about this”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of potential police disruption tactics: “creating social media accounts and using them to spread misinformation about us”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Concern about federal police raids: “specialised teams of Federal Police officers have been raiding people across the country”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Analysis of political fragility: “The Liberal versus Labor voting system is extremely fragile”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Speculation about AI analysis: “they run various scenarios through AI programs in order to estimate the effectiveness of a White Australia party”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Prediction of electoral success: “I think the answer is staggering! I think it’s really frightening them”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of three pillars of power: “You’ve got force, popularity and tradition”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Government only has force: “The only thing the government has on its side is force”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Prediction of political growth: “It’ll get millions of votes. It’ll explode out of the blocks”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Police incompetence re Adelaide incident: “the way they handled, for example, Australia Day”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Public support observation: “when you NSN guys arrived at August 31, March for Australia rally, it was clear that you had support from the majority of the people there”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Immigration as key issue: “they don’t even care if there’s Nazis here, as long as everyone’s united against immigration”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Zeitgeist shift: “The Overton Window has shifted so far”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Social media impact: “what has happened with social media is the traditional media has lost its influence”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Prediction of worldview explosion: “The next five to 10 years, there’s going to be an explosion in our worldview”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">British political collapse example: “If an election was held today in Britain, the conservatives and labour between them would have like 29 seats out of a possible 650”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Call for political party registration: “go to White Australia.org Sign up as a political supporter”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">NSW election timeline: “The New South Wales election is in March 2027”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Electoral strategy discussion: “in New South Wales, like John Ruddick got elected off like 3% of the vote”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Brisbane March for Australia split: “the Brisbane March for Australia people have now broken away” and “they’ve kind of moderated the message”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Australia Day (Jan 26, 2026) plans: “this Australia Day will be incredible, the cities to be just covered in Australian flags and patriots on Australia Day”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">ASIO boss warning discussed: “ASIO boss Mike Burgess warns of realistic possibility foreign government could attempt to kill a dissident in Australia”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Burgess quote about NSN: “The biggest Neo Nazi group, the National Socialist Network, or White Australia as it is rebranding itself”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">His concern about “violent propaganda”: “I remain deeply concerned by its hateful, divisive rhetoric and increasingly violent propaganda”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Majority of investigations claim: “nationalist and racist violent extremists make up the significant majority of our investigations”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Blair’s prediction about future censorship: “I think the days are gone where&#8230; Days are almost gone, where you can sit on streams like this”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Pattern of escalation observed: “When they don’t get the result they want by taking a more aggressive approach, they just become more aggressive again”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Constitutional confidence: “if they want to try and do that. And then I’m happy to go to the High Court. We’ll win”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Blair on political simplicity argument: “You don’t really need to be very intelligent to succeed in politics. You just need to be consistent and simplistic”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Fear discussion: “What’s everyone so scared of? I suppose suffering”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Life philosophy: “life is short and suffering is good. It makes you stronger”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Racism discussion: “Am I racist? Everyone’s racist. Racism is just part of life”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">In-group preference observation: “everyone’s racist, but only people who look like me are penalised for it”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Racial slur discussion, Blair: “I don’t use racial slurs because I’m afraid of something&#8230; It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Context for language use: “when we put it on that banner Ban Niggers, not Machetes&#8230; The shock value of it drove a lot of conversation”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Free speech as priority: “the two main strategic objectives are free speech and anti-immigration”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Education policy proposal: “restoring patriotic education. Like getting rid of all anti-White garbage”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Compulsory martial arts suggestion: “compulsory martial arts for all boys. Because I think we need to become a nation of fighters”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Final sign-off: “Hail victory, White power, blood and honour!”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Welcome to the show. Apologies, we’re slightly late, there was technical difficulties, but we’re here. It is the 4th of November 2025.</p>
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<p>Another show for you guys this evening and a lot to discuss, a lot to break down, before we get into the agenda. How are you doing? I actually haven’t spoken to you properly since we last did the show because I live in Sydney now, we don’t get to hang out so much, which is sad.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Good. Busy, working hard, trying to put together content for my business in my spare time. And I don’t mind the streams because now I get to play hardcore World of Warcraft every night we stream. It’s kind of the perfect slow paced background game. And my hardcore paladin is currently level 36. This is the first time I’ve played this character since we last trained. I’m pretty happy with it too. I’m pretty proud of myself. I got to level 36 without dying once, which is I think that’s a milestone. I don’t think I’ve done that before and I’ve been playing this game since I was like 14 or something, on and off. I haven’t been playing actually since I was 14.</p>
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<p>But what’s been happening, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Level 36 without dying. Isn’t your birthday soon?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, it’s on Remembrance Day. November 11th.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s right, yeah. Remembrance Day, that’s like a week away. Everyone who went out of their way today to like put a bet on the Melbourne Cup or something, go out of your way on Remembrance Day to remember the fallen. More Australians gave their life in the First World War than basically every other war we’ve ever fought combined. So it needs to be reflected upon. We talk about it on Anzac Day often and so on, but it needs to be reflected upon.</p>
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<p>The Anzacs were fighting for a White Australia. That’s what they thought they were fighting for, at the very least, they were fighting for the British Empire. And in the First World War, whatever you think of it, which I think there’s criticisms to be levied that the First World War was you know, Judeo-Masonic attack on the old monarchies of Europe and so on, from the Australian perspective, they were fighting for the British Empire in order to try and protect a land for the White man. For us here, that’s what they were fighting for. That’s why so many of them gave their lives.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So I think too, if you were alive in those times and of fighting age, you were conscripted, was there conscription? Did Australians have to fight or was it all voluntary?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, it was voluntary.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But if you were volunteering, you wouldn’t have been privy to all the information about criticisms of the mechanics behind the war. All you would have seen was war, like military recruitment propaganda about fighting for your country.</p>
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<p>And that’s why you would have gone to war. If you put yourself back in those times, it’s very naive to believe that you would have behaved differently to how your great grandfathers behaved. You would have gone to war for the same purpose, to defend your country.</p>
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<p>So I think it’s a mistake to denigrate soldiers of the past, because:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, it was just some contrived, you know, rich person business. It was some war put together by capitalists and they’re idiots for fighting!”</span></h3>
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<p>They still believed in what they were fighting for. Even if we have information now to prove those beliefs may have been misplaced, we still have to show respect for our ancestors. Right?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Exactly! They were. And I mean, at the end of the day, we were a part of the British Empire and they were fighting to maintain British Imperial dominance, which is if the British Empire wasn’t brought down from within through traitors, jewish subversion and so on, then that would have been a completely valid thing. But by the same token, fighting the Japanese in World War II mean, obviously we don’t agree with fighting the Germans in World War II, but fighting the Japanese in World War II was obviously necessary to defend Australia from a hostile Asian empire with designs on our territories.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They didn’t have really well developed plans to directly invade Australia. They did bomb Australia, though, and they did invade territories we controlled, such as Papua New Guinea. You know, New Guinea we actually got after World War I because New Guinea was actually under the control of the Germans up until World War I. And at the Treaty of Versailles, we basically walked away with control of New Guinea.</p>
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<p>So when the Japanese got to New Guinea, they were effectively invading one of our territories. And we fought them there and resisted them there.</p>
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<p>Also, we were part of the British Empire. The Japanese took Singapore off us. They invaded other kind of British Imperial holdings around Asia. So, yeah, it was a direct battle between our empire and theirs.</p>
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<p>And ultimately, if we lost the Second World War to the Japanese, maybe they wouldn’t have invaded in the Second World War, but then they would have been this massive empire that we would have been at the mercy of and who knows what would have happened in the ensuing decades as a result.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If the Germans and by extension the Japanese won the Second World War, what would that have meant for Australia, where would we be?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think we would have been forced to make an alliance with the Germans. The thing is, if they won the Second World War, that would mean some kind of victory over Britain for the Germans. If there was a victory over Britain for the Germans, then it would be like a Nazi Australia, I guess. It probably would have been pretty good. So that would have been pretty cool! But, you know, it went the way that it did.</p>
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<p>Anyway. Rather than talking about World War II again, let’s talk about more current matters, more contemporaneous matters. I want to play this clip. It was publicized by The Noticer* in recent days, but I think it needs to be analyzed and discussed over and over again! And it got attention, but I thought it should have got more attention.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* See: Police admit targeting nationalists and say it’s ‘concerning’ they’re forming political party-https:// www.noticer.news/police-target-nsn-white-Australia-political-party /]</span></p>
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<p>A lot of cowards in Australian politics refusing to weigh in on this because they’re afraid of being seen to be sympathizing with Nazis, which is really pathetic! And it says a lot about the state of play and the rest of the Right-wing in this country. But I’ll play this clip. The person speaking is the acting Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police and it’s some Parliamentary committee <span style="color: #008000;">[Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters]</span> of some description. Here we go.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Female:</strong> And AFP [Australian Federal Police] can perhaps speak to this a little as well, Senator.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>Nigel Ryan:</strong> (acting Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police) Yeah, thanks, Senator. I’m not aware of any specifics, but I think I can talk to some of the issues that we’re seeing and the things that we’re focusing on now, I don’t know whether you had the opportunity to hear our new commissioner, Chrissy Barrett, speak about the focus of the AFP at the moment and what we’re pivoting towards, particularly around issues affecting social cohesion and some of the groups that we’re seeing in society now that are affecting that social cohesion. Sovereign citizens are not necessarily a group, they’re usually individuals, but obviously of particular concern when you have a look at some of the instances of isolated violence more recently, particularly against police, that sovereign citizens have been partaking in.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;">I guess of more of a concern are some of those groups like the National Socialist Network, who we’re seeing trying to get into more of a political space. Our understanding is that the NSN is looking at whether they can form themselves as a political party, but we do see their activity more broadly. That doesn’t actually hit a threshold in terms of criminal offending, but the behaviour is concerning in terms of them pushing towards the line and a threshold that would be considered not violent behaviour, but disturbing behaviour in terms of what it means about how people feel about their safety and how they feel about the social cohesion aspect.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #800080;">So to that extent, the AFP has formed new teams, the National Security Investigations teams, which are looking more towards those fringe elements that are working within society that are causing concern, but not actually meeting the threshold to have a look at where we can actively work in the preventative and disruptive space to dissuade some of those groups from some of their public behaviours.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> So, yeah, I mean, there’s a lot to break down there. Obviously you’ve seen the clip already, Blair.</p>
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<p>I’ll say a few things. One, at the beginning he mentioned sovereign citizens. Obviously there was that recent occurrence in Victoria where Desi Freeman, the so-called sovereign citizen, I know they don’t like going by that term – that’s what the media and the police call them – where he killed two cops. Apparently the AFP is less concerned with people killing police officers than they are with us forming a political party because we might hurt people’s “<em>feelings</em>”. That’s quite incredible! He literally says in that spiel, that:</p>
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<p>You know what disrupts social cohesion? Importing a bunch of niggers into my country! That’s what disrupts social cohesion! Deporting a bunch of sorry, importing a bunch of non-Whites of every different description into our country. That disrupts social cohesion. Because it means we don’t have a cohesive society because everyone is a different race. It’s pretty basic. They’re blaming us for pointing that out. It’s a total inversion of reality!</p>
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<p>But yeah, now apparently it is now the police’s job to not worry about what crimes are. Not worry about people committing acts of violence, they’re less concerned about that. What they’re really concerned about is people trying to participate in liberal democracy who have opinions that differ from the status quo.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Opinions that are “<em>disturbing</em>”. Not criminal, but disturbing. And they’re classified as such because they affect how people “<em>feel</em>” about social cohesion.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, exactly! So it’s just ridiculous! Obviously we have a constitution in this country that says we should have a representative democracy. Apparently the Australian people are sovereign. They get to elect their own leaders. Well, there’s an open admission there from the Australian Federal Police. They don’t actually believe in liberal democracy. They believe in this thing called “<em>social cohesion</em>”, which appears to be “<em>White people being replaced and not getting upset about it</em>”. That’s what they mean by social cohesion. Is that why people need to basically:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Shut up and not complain about the fact that they are being genocided! The fact that we are being ethnocided!”</span></h3>
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<p>And if you complain about it, if you stand up against, if you try to form a political party and be political and follow the laws and don’t meet the threshold of criminality or violence, then the police are going to take it upon themselves, the Federal Police are going to take our tax dollars and then form special units that are going to disrupt that political party.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[12:25]</span></p>
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<p>I mean, this is clearly unconstitutional, illegal. This is like a communist country. It’s like they’re basically admitting that they’re like the Stasi*, they’re like the NKVD*. They are political police, whose primary responsibility is to uphold the political establishment, not prosecute crimes.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Stasi: Official state security service of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) The Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, was the state security service and secret police of East Germany from 1950 to 1990. The function of the Stasi in East Germany resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union, ⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs, abbreviated as NKVD, was the interior ministry and secret police of the Soviet Union from 1934 to 1946. The agency was formed to succeed the Joint State Political Directorate secret police organisation, and thus had a monopoly on intelligence and state security functions. The NKVD is known for carrying out political repression and the Great Purge under Joseph Stalin, as well as counterintelligence and other operations on the Eastern Front of World War II. Prior organisation was the dreaded CHEKA.]</span></p>
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<p>It’s quite an incredible admission. And what cowardice from the Australian Right-wing where basically none of them said anything about this. The only person who did that I saw were the New South Wales libertarians, like John Ruddick’s people in New South Wales as ideologically consistent libertarians. Ralph Babet said something and then deleted it, five to ten minutes later. He pussied out!</p>
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<p>And no one else said anything. Probably because they’re partially happy that the Federal Police are going to fuck with us because they’re afraid that we’re going to take their voters away or something, that we’re going to come in and steal their spot! But it just kind of exposes the whole system for what it is! That these people who claim to be upholding democracy and all of this garbage, they don’t actually believe any of that it’s a total lie! It’s a total farce! And why are the Nazis at the forefront of free speech, democracy? Why are we the ones trying to uphold it? I mean, it’s a total inversion of the roles <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that are supposed to be denominated. But I think it’s an incredible story!</p>
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<p>What’s your analysis, Blair? Like, what kind of tactics do you expect them to use because they said “<em>disrupt</em>”, they didn’t say they’re going to put it, &#8230; Obviously we don’t meet your threshold of criminality. They can’t stop us from forming a political party. They’ve got no legal recourse to do.</p>
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<p>So I think some of the things that they’re doing probably is creating social media accounts and using them to spread misinformation about us, turn people against us, imitate us. We’ve seen a rise in fake NSN accounts online, causing dramas, a rise in accounts that seem like that all they do all day is just make posts about the NSN and how offended they are by us. And that’s the only thing that they post about. Who has time for that? You know, people usually have jobs and families and this kind of thing. So maybe it’s feds? Maybe it’s just all feds? A lot of these accounts.</p>
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<p>What also they’re going to do probably frivolous lawsuits. We’ve had plenty of those. But yeah, other than making, basically doing psyops online and engaging with frivolous lawsuits, these are kind of the more obvious things. What else do you think they’re going to do, or are doing already?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I suppose this explains why specialised teams of Federal Police officers have been raiding people across the country who are in any way, shape or form supportive of National Socialist Network or White Australia, raiding them on no evidence and trying to find some reason to set them up on charges. So this has probably been happening for a few months already. At least a few months.</p>
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<p>And it’s really concerning because the term “<em>disrupt</em>”, when people in official politics use terms like “<em>disrupt</em>” and “<em>dissuade</em>”, that basically means anything. That means anything beneath the ostensible. And the ostensible must appear as legit. They have to act like they’re working within certain frameworks on the surface, but underneath the surface, that’s the realm of “<em>disrupt and dissuade</em>”. That’s like the tier of counterinsurgency. That’s literally anything, man! That’s anything they can get away with!</p>
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<p>So that’s like a secret political police developing strategies to fuck with a specific group because they don’t want them forming a political party, and because they’re not actually doing anything criminal. I don’t think there’s any precedent for a Federal Police officer making that statement in Australian history. I can’t actually stress the significance of this is really fucked up! This basically means what I think this means, what it exposes to me is the Australian political system, the Liberal versus Labor voting system is extremely fragile. No one likes the Liberal Party and no one likes the Labor Party. They just kind of vote one way or the other based on traditional. And there’s no effective Third Position for people to vote their way out of that sequence, that never ending sequence of Liberal-Labour. There’s One Nation but they’re in bed with Israel. There’s the Greens, but they’re just communists.</p>
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<p>So I think what they do, and I’ve said this before on previous streams, I think there’s like analysts within the government that run various scenarios through AI programs in order to estimate the effectiveness of a White Australia party. Meaning they run it through like a scenario system, a computerized AI system that’s going to give them answers based on the current political climate situation, based on the current environment:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“How many votes would a White Australia Party get if it was formed right now?”</span></h3>
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<p>And I think the answer is staggering! I think it’s really frightening them! I think they know that a White Australia Party could be like the next One Nation but bigger and cooler, younger, more exciting, more interesting. And because there is such a large silent White Australian voter base who can vote basically anonymously, I think it’s obvious that a lot of people would vote for White Australia Party right now! Not only is it new, fresh and exciting, it has its roots in tradition. And tradition is one of the pillars of power. You’ve got force, popularity and tradition.</p>
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<p>And you’ve got to ask yourself what does the government have on its side right now in regards to those three pillars? Does the government have popularity? No! Does the government have tradition? It sort of pretends to observe tradition because it knows it has to in order to maintain power structure, but it’s actually trying to destroy Australian tradition and replace it with its own version of ceremonies and rituals, largely surrounding Aboriginal culture. Right?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[18:55]</span></p>
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<p>The only thing the government has on its side is force. It’s operating on a single pillar. Whereas a White Australia party would have popularity and tradition on its side. So already the government is at a disadvantage. Even though it has all the resources, the only real resource it can call upon to defend its current position is force, is violence! And BC beneath the tier of violence, such as disruption and dissuasion, right? Which is all manner of cloak and dagger activities.</p>
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<p>So I think they’re really worried! And I think they know they have to nip the White Australia Party in the bud! And I think there’s nothing they won’t fucking do to achieve that.</p>
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<p>So it’s very concerning. It’s really concerning that the Australian Federal Police are now being used as a bulwark, as attack dogs against a specific group of young people coming together to try to form their own political party legally. As you said, how is that democracy? That’s not fucking democracy! And it just exposes yet again that we don’t live in a fucking democracy! So I don’t really know what to expect.</p>
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<p>Basically, it’s:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Brace yourself, lads!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s my feeling. And my analysis, my intuition’s been telling me for the last six months that things are going to get really ugly. Because I could see the potential for a White Australia party. I could see it a year ago and the potential is growing! It’s especially going to grow in, how should I put it? In reference to what’s going to happen in England. Things are starting to heat up in England and around the West, the rest of the world. In Europe you’re going to see similar situation and people in Australia are going to look for a way to vote themselves out of a similar fate. And if White Australia is all there is, they will vote for it! It’ll get millions of votes! It’ll explode out of the blocks, I think.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s what this is all about. Yeah. So very concerning times ahead, is where I’ll wrap up my analysis.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Concerning, but it’s also exciting! It’s very exciting because I think, as you said, if they thought that it was going to be a dud, if they thought that we weren’t capable of achieving anything, then they just let us do it. They’d be like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let them go down this path.”</span></h3>
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<p>This is going to be a more neutral path and a safer path from their point of view. You would think, they would almost, like if they didn’t think anyone would vote for us why not let us go up there and embarrass ourselves?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, that’s the thing, Joel. You don’t really need to be very intelligent to succeed in politics. You just need to be consistent and simplistic. I don’t mean like intellectually simplistic necessarily. I mean you just need that one simple, easy to understand message. You need to ground yourself in some manner of tradition relative to the culture that you’re trying to persuade, you’re trying to represent, and you just need to be consistent. You just need to keep pushing, keep fighting and protect your reputation as much as possible.</p>
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<p>It’s not really rocket science, politics you’re basically trying to persuade simpletons to tick a box that says your name next to it. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> It’s not really a difficult process. And because the circumstances, the environment right now in Australia is perfect for a new, young, exciting party to basically steal the show, the current power structure is developing political police tactics in response to that.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s going to be so something that we’ve never seen before. I think it’s going to be something that Australia, there’s no precedent for in Australia. So as I said, it’s like a brace yourself situation and prepare to support each other.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but what I’ve also noticed is that Australian police are very incompetent, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What makes you say that specifically? Give me an example of Australian policing incompetence.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I would say the way that they handled, for example, Australia Day last year we were in Adelaide. I think all they did was create a sympathetic scenario for us that gained a lot of positive attention and they tried to engage in a legal strategy that has been ridiculously unsuccessful, and just basically de-legitimize themselves and make themselves look stupid and mishandle the whole process. They have not been effective in stopping us. The only move they were able to make against us was more recently against Sewell, putting him in jail. But you know, that was an unforced error by Sewell. Like running up the police didn’t make him do that, run up a hill in 4K and beat someone up.</p>
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<p>So in terms of like their strategic designs, the sum total of the efforts over the last two years are basically added up to fuck all, in terms of actually, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s what it’s worth. It’s worse than fuck all! If you are in the position where you consider NSN an enemy or even a nuisance for yourself as a police officer or something. If you’re in a government position where you command police officers, you’ve made the situation worse for yourself! It would have been better for the police to do nothing than to publicly and aggressively arrest people for trying to host an Australia Day march. Like obviously that’s going to win sympathy from the public. For the public who loves an underdog, Australians love to see someone struggling against authority. They love an underdog!</p>
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<p>So you’re kind of creating this hero class of people by policing in a manner as aggressive as that. So for them the situation is worse than zero. They’ve actually contributed to elevating you guys in. I think what’s really worried them is when you guys arrived at August 31, March for Australia rally, it was clear that you had support from the majority of the people there. Very clear! And people were doing interviews saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They don’t even care if there’s Nazis here, as long as everyone’s united against immigration.”</span></h3>
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<p>And that means people won’t even care about voting for a Nazi party so long as it’s against immigration. You see, that’s what that translates into for any government analyst.</p>
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<p>So I think that’s what’s triggered, &#8230; It’s one of the things that’s triggered this effort to create a new tier of political policing, which was already in the works before that anyway. But that really pushed it over the line because it would have proven their analysts correct if they had already ran the White Australia scenario through their AI sequencing. Then when they saw in real time people shaking hands with you guys, cheering you guys on, and just admitting in interviews that they’re willing to support you, like regular people, that kind of proved all the data they already would have been collecting. It proved it correct.</p>
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<p>So that’s what’s motivating them, I think.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Well, the reason why people are supporting us is because they’re genociding the White race and people are waking up to it. I mean, it’s that simple. We’re actually behind the curve in this country from where it is in other Western countries.</p>
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<p>I mean, I saw Lindsay Graham from the Republican Party giving an interview the other day, and he said:</p>
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<p>He’s like:</p>
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<p>What is he implying? That there’s a Hitler is “<em>awesome faction</em>” of the Republican Party now? That’s crazy! Yeah, but there kind of is. And like the Overton Window has shifted so far the Zeitgeist, like the attitude of the people. And that’s largely down to social media, because what has happened with social media is the traditional media has lost its influence over the collective consciousness. There’s been a decentralisation of political media in particular.</p>
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<p>And that means that jews don’t control political discourse anymore. And so jews and academics and all of these different, like, committed political groups that have advanced this agenda against our people. Now a more grassroots, a more independent form of political discourse exists. And so it will tend towards the authentic politics that we represent.</p>
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<p>So what is coming? Like, where people are at now is already a lot better than where they were before. But what’s coming is way more than this! The next five to 10 years, there’s going to be an explosion in our worldview, particularly with young White people. An explosion! It’s inevitable and it can’t be stopped! Doesn’t matter how many laws they try to pass on censoring the Internet, how many divisions they create within the AFP to arrest anti-semites. It doesn’t matter, because they did all this stuff in Britain and it’s still happening in Britain!</p>
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<p>I saw a opinion poll in Britain. If an election was held today in Britain, the conservatives and Labor between them would have like 29 seats out of a possible 650. That would be like if we were going to hold an election in Australia tomorrow and only three people were going to get elected from like Liberal and Labor. That’s literally where it’s at in Britain. The political centre has been eviscerated. And obviously the parties on the outside of that are still, they’re not perfect. They’re not what the kind of party we want to build.</p>
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<p>But the point is that the old political formula has been smashed! It’s been fucking smashed in Britain! And it’s been smashed all over Europe and a new paradigm is rising and it will rise here, inevitably. Zoomers in America are more Right-wing than Boomers now. That’s insane! Like, no one was predicting this. Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson talking about the jews is like mainstream political discourse.</p>
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<p>And then you’ve got like Ben Shapiro complaining about it on the corner of the Internet and no one’s watching anymore. That’s how it is now. No one’s watching the old jew media anymore. Everything’s different. Everyone’s Instagram algorithm is pumping out Hitler speeches at them. It’s become normal to talk about the jews now? It’s become normal to talk about these kinds of issues. And that’s just the start.</p>
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<p>So when we come along and we bring a political party with the kind of policies that we’re going to put forward and the approach we’re going to be put forward, fuck yes, there’s a constituency for it! And they can throw the kitchen sink at us because we’ve already proven we will go to jail for this! If, I mean, we don’t want to go to jail, but if we have to, we have determination. We will sacrifice. We will continue pushing forward.</p>
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<p>The Liberal Party isn’t going to go to jail to stay in the Liberal Party. The only people in the Liberal Party going to jail are the paedophiles that get caught. Like what happened to that guy the other day. Imagine if we had someone in our organisation, by the way, who got caught literally touching up a kid. They would call us paedophiles, right? Liberal Party literally just had that happen. Crickets! No one blames the Liberal Party.</p>
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<p>But anyway, my point is this. The political establishment in this country is flimsy. It is weak. I’m not saying that we’re going to win an election anytime soon, but we are going to be a really disruptive force on this. And they can try and fuck with us, and they can try and put some of our guys in jail and they can make a nuisance of themselves. And I’m sure it will suck. I’m sure it will suck for me personally. It might suck for you personally, Blair, and a bunch of us, but we ain’t gonna fucking stop! And they’re not gonna kill us. I said this I think last. Do you agree with this take? They’re not like the communists of old. The communists of old would fucking shoot us. They’d just fucking kill us! These are fucking soft, they’re not gonna do that.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but there’s different standards now. It’s that there’s modern ways of being burned at the stake where it’s not really effective to kill. When you kill your enemies, especially in politics, you actually embolden your enemy further and you win more sympathizers for your enemy by how cruel your conduct is. And sort of factions within politics have worked that out these days. And plus, we live in this post violence era. Violence will always be a thing. It’s an eternal aspect of the world, our reality. But the era that we’re in right now is a post violence era, where everything except violence is basically permissible. Like, even down to the dirtiest, darkest tactics, so long as you’re not being outrightly violent, it’s all well and good!</p>
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<p>And so, yeah, even though they won’t kill you, as I said, there’s modern ways for them to publicly burn you alive and sort of torture you, humiliate you in a political way. And that’s what you’ve got to be worried about, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but it’s not as bad. They’re not going to kill us. So it’s like we grit and bear it. You know what I mean? It’s not the like, it’s bearable. Like this is not an enemy that you should be that afraid of:</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You say they won’t kill you too. How can you be so sure? I saw some information that Charlie Kirk may have been killed by some sort of mechanism that shot up out of the microphone he was wearing. That might sound a bit conspiratorial, but when I saw the footage, even I had to admit, sounds pretty weird! Do you think it’s possible that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by like an organised political effort by an overseas country?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s not that it’s impossible! Like it’s possible, but I don’t think any of these theories about it was a mechanism on his body, blah, blah, blah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Have you seen the footage?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If someone else was involved, they would have just like groomed a tranny to do it.</p>
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<p>And then you’ve got the, like, they would like the way that it was described. Like it’s within the power of the intelligence agencies in America or in Israel or whatever to groom trannies into committing political assassinations or tranny fuckers nto political assassinations.</p>
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<p>So I don’t think you need to have this elaborate:</p>
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<p>You know, know all this kind of stuff. I don’t know why. We’ve talked about this before on the show. I don’t know what we’re going back to this.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But I was just thinking about, because you said that’s the thing, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If they’re going around killing everyone who disagrees, why are they’re killing Charlie Kirk? Charlie Kirk was a fucking moderate! They’re not killing Nick Fuentes! They’re not killing like more radical voices. They’re killing the more moderate ones. That doesn’t even make any sense. Since Charlie Kirk has died, things have only become more anti-Israel, more racist, more radical! So you know, what the whole like, theory around it, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For the record, I don’t actually believe anything I’m putting forward here. I’m just saying that I saw that stuff on the Internet and a lot of people seem to believe it, but I was only throwing you something contrarian because you were suggesting they won’t kill you. Like these people won’t kill you.</p>
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<p>But I think there’s some evidence they, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If they kill me one day, they’re going to turn me into a martyr and make me more popular!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Israeli intelligence, yeah, definitely would kill you! But I think you have to be a pretty significant threat or you have to be projected to become a pretty significant threat for them to start considering that. Because, as I said, they run the risk of making you into a martyr and actually just building their opponent up even more.</p>
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<p>But now we’re going full circle back to what I was talking about before.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You’re doing like little haphazard killings is always counterproductive. You have to kill everyone. You just knock off a few people all you do is turn them into heroes and embolden the rest of them to get revenge and to kind of move forward. So, they’re not gonna kill every nationalist in Australia. There’s no one is shaping up seriously to do that it’s not going to happen. And they are creating obstacles.</p>
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<p>Like, for example, there’s a lot of people that have not signed up on our website to be a political supporter. A lot of them is sheer laziness. And I know there’s a lot of the you lazy fucks that are listening to this right now, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> When you say, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Wait a second, I want to say something. If you’re one of these lazy fucks that hasn’t signed up to our political party out of laziness, do it tonight! Do it now! Literally do it right now! You can do it while you’re listening to this or watching this, go to White Australia.org, sign up as a political supporter! If it’s just laziness holding you back, particularly if you live in New South Wales, because, that’s actually the key state where we need quick signups at the moment because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What are you asking people to do? Because I don’t understand. What are you asking people to do when you say sign up as a political supporter, what does that mean? What are you asking?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It means basically you, &#8230; We have an encrypted database, right, that you basically import your details into on our website. It is highly encrypted. We do not want anyone getting doxed and they won’t! It’s a highly encrypted database that you know is not going to be breached.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But what information do you need? What information?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Your basic details. Your name, address. But it has to be what your electoral role address where you’re enrolled to vote. And we can send that off to the Australian Electoral Commission to then say, we’ve got enough members of our party to register the party.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t mean to be, &#8230; Maybe it’s not the right question, but I’ll ask it anyway. Do you trust the Australian Electoral Commission?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I mean, yeah, they’ve never leaked anything like this before. So there’s privacy laws. It’s like the cops know, like ASIO know who all of you are! They can figure out every single person who watches one of these streams on their phone or something. They can figure out who you are. Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you’re already on a list that the government can access, but they don’t just publish it. That’s not how it works. And it’s not going to be how it works. So people need to fucking chill. It’s never been like that and never will be like that.</p>
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<p>Secondly, how the fuck are we going to do anything unless we build a political vehicle in order to advance our ideology, our worldview, our position with the Australian public? So if that means you have to take a little bit of risk, obviously it’s not really much of a risk. We are protecting your ass! We’re not asking you to put on the black block and go march in the street, yell “<em>hail victory</em>”. Just asking you to sign up to a political party. And there’s legal protections. You’ll be fine. And we’ve encrypted our databases.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yes, that’s the small sacrifice you have to make of spending two minutes inputting your correct details into our website so that we can go and register a political party and perhaps get thrown in jail! We’ll deal with all the difficult shit for you! All you have to do is just sign the paper, put the fries in the bag. That’s all you got to do. So just do it! Particularly if you’re in New South Wales.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then also don’t just do it yourself. Go to your friends, go to your family and get them to do it. Get them to do it as well. Get as many people as you possibly can to do it! We need as many members as possible. The more members we have, the more momentum. Like even once we reach the minimum thresholds, the more members, the better. And they’re going to audit the members. Some people are going to move house or have put in the wrong details or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we’re going to need to have a glut of members, like I’ve explained before. It’s such a minimal thing. That’s such a minimal ask. It’s a really minimal ask!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I noticed someone in your organisation, one of the leaders I saw through Noticer News tried to register “<em>White Australia</em>” as a business entity through like some sort of government business or like regulatory board.</p>
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<p>And the response from this board was that the term “<em>White Australia</em>” because it meant White ethnically, the registration request was rejected on that basis because it was like offensive or something.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, that was to register a corporation. That wasn’t to register a party.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I know that. My question is, has there been any progress with that? Because I know that that same board accepted a registration request from Black Lives Matter and registered them as a corporation, but they said no to White Australia because of the term White. But they didn’t have a problem with the term “<em>black</em>”. I wonder if there’s been any update with any response.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We just registered under a different name. We couldn’t be, there’s an appeals process, but we just couldn’t be fucked with it because it doesn’t really matter that much.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It would have been a good test because you’re probably gonna get the same response from the AEC.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, you know what would be an even better test? Building the fucking party!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s why we’re focusing on that rather than dicking around, on arguing over registering corporations and stuff, because it’s a side issue, you know what I mean? But because a lot of people said:</p>
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<p>It was like, it was almost like we shouldn’t have like put that out there because people don’t read past the headline and it confuses people. But they won’t be able to block the political party on those grounds because the Electoral Act doesn’t give them the same kind of leeway and the Constitution doesn’t give them the same kind of leeway on political parties, that they have with corporations.</p>
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<p>And I think we would have won the appeal on the corporation, but it would have cost thousands of bucks and it would have taken a while and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It would have said a precedent though too. So then you could have used the same argument with the aec. That’s what I was thinking.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, we can look into, we can look into still doing it down the track, but it becomes a bit of a drawn out process anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when it comes to the party, like people just need to sign up! In New South Wales election is in March 2027. There’s a Victorian state election I think next November and then the following March in 2027 is the new South Wales election. So it’s some time away. It’s like a year until the Victorian election and then a year and four months till the New South Wales election and then the following year we’ll have the next federal election. Those are the three elections we’ve got our eye on. WA doesn’t have an election for years. Queensland doesn’t have an Upper House and so it’s less worth focusing on.</p>
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<p>And the other states are kind of irrelevant, to be honest, not fully irrelevant, but they’re kind of irrelevant in terms of the national conversation. So Victoria, New South Wales are the two main, two biggest states, the two states where we have the most members and the two that we wanted to target first as a political party.</p>
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<p>But in Victoria you only need 500 Victorian members in order to contest their state elections. And so that’s going to be a lot easier for us in Victoria. In New South Wales it’s 750. And in New South Wales, if you’re not, if you’re not registered a year prior to the election, you can’t get listed on the ballot paper.</p>
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<p>Additionally, New South Wales, we probably have a better chance at actually getting someone elected than in Victoria, not because we’d get a higher percentage of the vote necessarily in one state or the other, but because of the system. So in New South Wales, like John Ruddick got elected off like 3% of the vote because New South Wales, they don’t have group voting. It’s more like kind of the Senate election in the federal election is kind of the same in the New South Wales state election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas in the Victorian state election they break the Upper House down into eight zones, three regional zones and five metro zones. And the top five from each of those zones get elected.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the thing is that in Victoria, in the state election when you., &#8230; That seems like a good system, you just have to come fifth in your zone and you can get in. That doesn’t sound so hard. But and we probably could still do this. But the more difficult aspect of it is that in Victoria people usually don’t vote below the line and preference all of the different parties, they just put a vote above the line and then they get automatic preferencing. So we would have to do preference deals with all these other parties and get them to preference us high in order to get all their preferences. And it’d be really difficult because we’re Nazis and they’re probably not going to work with us. Who knows? We can cut some deals but it might be hard.</p>
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<p>In New South Wales cutting the deals isn’t the same level of difficulty because there is an automatic preferencing in how people vote. So in New South Wales in theory we will get more preferences, you would think. So that’s why we really want to be registered to contest this election in New South Wales.</p>
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<p>So if you live in New South Wales, sign the fuck up! ! We are desperate, and do it immediately because I would really much like it if we can get above the line that election, it would be great! But I’m going to stop talking about that. I know people are probably annoyed at me yammering on about that.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, we’re never annoyed about your yammering, Joel! Yammer away!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I guess that’s what the show is. That’s literally why we’re here.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But well you mentioned Remembrance Day, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Because people, Australians, one thing about us, and I’m like this too, we’re fucking lazy! We can’t be fucked as a people.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know if, would you say we’re lazy?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We work hard, but when it comes to like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think we’re more, we’re a bit black pilled on politics. I think that’s what it is. I just don’t think we like politics. Australians have a general disinterest. They don’t think there’s any hope. They think it’s all bullshit!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s true. But also people are fucking lazy. People are fucking lazy in terms of doing it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Mental laziness that leads people to think this stuff too. Because politics is made to seem a lot more complicated than it really is. At the end of the day it’s just when you’ve got a homogenous society it’s different ideas competing, usually economic ideas and then there’s a few subversives in there trying to fuck your country up. If you have a good intelligence system it prevents that from happening.</p>
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<p>We don’t have a homogenous society anymore. We have a multi-ethnic society. And so all politics is now is different ethnic groups trying to get an advantage over each other. It’s just different ethnic groups and some ethnic groups, namely the White ethnic group that’s currently in Parliament is working against its own ethnic interests. Generally speaking. And it’s happening in England, it’s happening in Europe. As soon as society becomes multi-ethnic political politics becomes racial. It’s just different racial groups battling each other to try to get an advantage or to try to put the other group at a disadvantage. And it’s really that simple. There’s Nothing else to consider in politics right now!</p>
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<p>So you mentioned Remembrance Day, though, and I was curious, what would I call them? People from Sydney, New South Walers. What do people in New South Wales do for Remembrance Day? What do you do? Is there somewhere in the city that everyone goes?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, we don’t really have, like a massive shrine, like in Melbourne, which I mean, I was in Melbourne for the last two Remembrance Days and so I was able to go to the Shrine of Remembrance, which is better.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But what about Hyde Park, there’ a big stone structure?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. In Hyde Park, there is a big War Memorial.</p>
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<p>So there’s something, but it’s just not as impressive as the temple, basically, that exists in Melbourne to the Anzacs, which is probably the most magnificent building in Australia. But we can talk about Remembrance Day next week because that’ll be the week of the show. I really want to talk about.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I just want to say something about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Oh, okay. Okay, go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The date November 11th is significant for a couple of reasons. Ned Kelly was hanged on November 11th. And I’m pretty sure the Berlin Wall came down on November 11th as well, I mean, that’s not necessarily pivotal for Australia, but it’s definitely a pivotal moment in European history. I’ll just say a lot of significant stuff happens in November, and November 11th, like there’s this whole list of weird shit that happens on November 11th. I don’t know if anyone knows any more about that than I do, but if you’re into that kind of stuff, hit me up because I’m interested to learn more about the strange occurrences that always seem to take place throughout November.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I don’t know what are you alleging, what’s going to happen?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know, it’s something to do with the stars, man! I’m telling you. Usually radical change, violent change, or just something really significant tends to be happening throughout November, historically speaking. And I don’t know why that is. Someone might have a better idea as to why that is. I’m not really talking from a numerological perspective. I’m not into numerology at all! But, yeah, I’m just throwing it out there. It’s always made me feel a bit weird about my birthday, too. It’s just like:</p>
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<p>Cukg Time will tell!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But, yeah, on the party, I’ve been working a bit on the policies that we’re going to have and we haven’t put them out yet because it’s one thing that Tom can actually have some input in from jail. So send him some a draught and we’ll see what he thinks. He might have a few different ideas so we can at least work together on something even though he’s in prison.</p>
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<p>But a few of the ideas that I’ve had, I mean, we’ve spoken about some of them on the show. Some of the policies that we agreed upon, like debt forgiveness and mother’s allowance and executing paedophiles and things like that. But a few others.</p>
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<p>I was going to get your takes on some of my ideas Blair, of policies here or some of our ideas.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You care what I think?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, of course.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Let’s do it!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Of course. So one idea for a policy that is oh so necessary is pretty basic, but just got to have restoring free speech in the platform. Now some people will call me a cuck. They’ll say:</p>
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<p>Now, yes, from an ideological standpoint, I don’t agree with giving free speech to everyone because I don’t believe in giving free speech to my political enemies. But considering the fact that it’s our speech that is being rejected, not theirs, I think tactically it makes sense to advocate for restoring free speech because it’s really only our speech that’s under threat.</p>
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<p>So there’s that. Another policy area that we think is very important because we don’t have too many. We have like 10 policies and just call it there and keep it simple. Because as you said, Australians aren’t going to bother to read 50 policies and have opinions on them. But another policy is, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, I do think free speech is dangerous because that makes you receptive to enemy ideology.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but the enemy ideology already has freedom. Our ideology is the one that’s restricted.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So basically you want to reverse the current circumstances.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> At least level the playing field. I think that’s the right tactical decision. But yeah, well, maybe you don’t. Should we run on taking away communist speech or something? I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, no, I just think just certain there just should be agencies dedicated to counter subversion.</p>
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<p>So like if you’re identified as a subversive unit group ideology, then you don’t have many rights basically. And that can be abused, that kind of policy. So there would need to be some sort of oversight in place to prevent it from being misused. That’s the thing that we had ASIO, which is Australia’s version of like a security agency. Would it be the Australian version of FBI Joel? Is that accurate to say?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s like NSA, FBI? Yeah, it’s like a few agencies in America mixed together.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, subversion or working against subversive tactics was part of ASIO’s definition of state security before the Hawk Labor government, I think up until around 1989, around the year of my birth, somewhere around there perhaps. But the Hawk Labor government actually put ASIO to the test because they accused them of using the term “<em>subversion</em>” to intrude upon the freedoms of certain groups and personalities.</p>
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<p>And so the Hawk Labor government removed “<em>subversion</em>” from ASIO’s definition of state security and replaced it with “<em>politically motivated violence</em>”. So I’ve spoken about that a few times because I think that was a real pivotal moment in Australia’s history because we had a state that was making some effort to prevent hostile ideology from taking root in institutions like schools, police departments, government agencies.</p>
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<p>But that was all just removed by the Hawk Labor government. And instead our national security or intelligence agencies were refocused on just violence. As though pushing people around in the street because of ideology is more of a threat to the nation than teaching kids transgenderism and communism. You know, obviously subversive ideology is more of a threat than direct violence a lot of the time.</p>
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<p>So I think that was one of the greatest mistakes any government has made in Australian history.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but that leads to the next policy which is like restoring patriotic education. Like getting rid of all anti-White garbage out of every level of education, including the universities, and restoring pro-Australian, pro-White version of how history is taught and also compulsory martial arts for all boys. Because I think we need to become a nation of fighters. That’s our education policy. I think if you fix it, the level of education, just regulate education correctly.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You can’t run a nation on love. You can only run nations on hate. Like the current civilisation is run on hatred of White people.</p>
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<p>So if you reverse that situation where suddenly White people are no longer the hated enemy which unifies all of multicultural society, who’s the new enemy? Who are we united against?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, we’re not going to like create an education policy of like, we’re going to build an education policy of fuck jews, and make like anti-semitism, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> like official government like that, I mean, it’s probably not a smart angle. Like the Left didn’t do that. The Left appealed first to free speech and to equality and so on, first.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but that’s boring now. The reason conservative elements of society are failing right now is because appealing to all of this moral goodness is fucking boring! ! And we’ve got a desensitized youth who are looking for more edgy messaging. And Hitler sold anti-semitism to people openly and they took it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You can sell it to people openly like a political strategy.</p>
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<p>But in terms of like, I mean, the point is that like the education system is basically penetrated or just like overwhelmed with anti-White ideology, like a genocidal ideology against our people. Basically. It just needs to be like reversed.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but the point still stands like within that edgy. You’re saying the Leftists are being crafty. They’re not really like, you go into a university and they’re like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“White people are responsible for all the fucked up stuff in the world.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, of course.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You know what I mean? Like you want to change it to:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jewish people are responsible for all the suffering of the nations.”</span></h3>
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<p>Like you want to flip that.</p>
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<p>So the whole mantra of the education department would replace the enemy of society. It’s currently White people. It would need to be someone else, is the point that I’m making, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean patriots have many enemies. So like the historical enemies of patriots have been jewish subversion.</p>
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<p>I mean, you talk about ASIO, the reason why ASIO <span style="color: #008000;">[Australian Security Intelligence Organisation]</span> came into existence in the first place was because jews immigrated here from Eastern Europe after World War II and they were communists, because all jews in Eastern Europe were communists at that time, basically.</p>
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<p>That’s why they all had to be put in camps during the Second World War, which was against communists, by the Germans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, they started stealing. They started infiltrating our government and stealing state secrets and giving them to the Soviet Union. That’s why they had to create ASIO to create a barrier. They never even needed to have something like ASIO before World War II because our country was so homogenous that there just weren’t any traitors. So there was no traitors to deal with. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> That’s the power of a homogeneous society, what it can achieve.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah. What do you think about compulsory martial arts for all boys? I think that’s a good policy. I think we need it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s okay. I always said that you should give people a choice because forcing all people through the same pipeline doesn’t always produce, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Children don’t get choices. Children get forced into all kinds of shit! Children don’t get a choice:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, would you like to learn how to read? Would you like, . ?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, no, no, the choice is pretty, like it’s not that much different. I always thought, and I’ve had you disagree with me on this before. I thought you should be able to choose between two years military service or an apprenticeship in a specific trade such as carpentry, bricklaying, plumbing, something like that.</p>
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<p>So you’re either demonstrating yourself as useful to defend the country as part of a huge reserve army, you know how to use weapons, et cetera, and you’ve also had your mind and body hardened by the military training. Or if you don’t want to do it’s not your thing, you can learn a valuable skill and become useful to the nation in that way. You don’t have to do it. You can do your apprenticeship and then choose to go into university or do something else. But I’ve always thought or said you shouldn’t be able to become a citizen until you complete two years military service or complete a trade. That’s what I think.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I agree with compulsory military training. I don’t agree with people being forced to do a trade.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s because you’ve never done an apprenticeship. You don’t know how tough it can be. It’s tough on your mind and stuff on your body.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I did, I was a locksmith apprentice, once upon a time.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> A locksmith? Did you? Yeah, but you need to do some time on the shovel, Joel! You need to dig some trenches!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’ve worked in construction, I’ve done my time on the shovel. I’ve worked in landscaping.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Okay. When did you do that?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> In Sydney, when I was younger.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But like, then you got to understand the value, right? Like, it’s great to have soldiers, but you’ve got to have people who can actually produce something, who can build, who can plumb, who can wire a house.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, everyone’s going to do that anyway. Everyone’s going to get a job anyway. The, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s not true, though. No. People don’t get a job unless they have to.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, you do have to. How are you going to get money?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, right now the government will give you money for being a retard!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean, obviously we’re going to do something about that. We can’t have 18% of the country on NDIS or whatever it is. Like, it’s ridiculous!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Look, all I say, I’m a big advocate of learning a trade. Even if you don’t stick with it. To me is of equal value to learning how to defend the country with like real military.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Objectively, not of equal value if you’re at war. Obviously nothing is more valuable.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, obviously. Well, not necessarily because you still need amenities, you still need transport.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, of course, I’m not saying that being a tradie is bad or something, but what I’m saying is if you got a kid who’s going to become a lawyer or something, we don’t need to be a tradie first.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, no. I think it’s about character building in that case. So even if he never becomes a bricklayer, if he does three years bricklaying before he goes to university to learn to become a lawyer, he’s learnt about the grit, the reality, the harshness of reality through three years of bricklaying, which is hard labour, right? Not just the labour itself, but the way you’re treated by the guys who you’re going to be working under. It builds character.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Everyone be a bricklayer?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But look, think. Have you ever played a strategy game like Warcraft 3, for example, back when it first came out? You can’t do anything without the worker unit. You can’t build soldiers without the worker unit. You can’t mine minerals without the worker unit. The worker unit is the beginning of everything. Building strong workers with good spirit, good character is, I think, it’s possibly even more valuable than having soldiers.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, what I think is that when it comes to compulsory military service, I don’t think that people should be forced to serve in foreign wars. We should only ever, and that’s actually in the Constitution. You can’t conscript people to fight foreign wars under the current Australian constitution. The only pretext for conscription would be if Australia was like, invaded and we were like fighting a war of national survival.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And that’s the benefit of having like mandatory military.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But you could still force everyone to train for a year. They wouldn’t have to get deployed, but you could at least make everyone train so everyone knows how to use a gun. Everyone knows how to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But that’s the point. But then if Australia does get invaded, if everyone’s done, two years military service in order to achieve citizenship.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’ve at least trained a huge reserve army of like everyone who knows how to use a gun.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If every boy in Australia grows up doing martial arts, grows up doing combat sports, then they go and do their military service, then you’ve just got an entire nation of fucking beasts! You know what I mean? Everyone can fight. And then your baseline is so much higher than any other country at that point. That, to me, that’s going to be our policies.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But did you do martial arts?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Being bricklayers, that’s a bit extremist for me. I’m too moderate.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Hang on! I think I explained my case pretty well. I’m surprised that you don’t agree!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I just don’t think you need to force people into particular fields in the economy. I think people can pursue their own career path, obviously if they’re doing nothing. But everyone doesn’t have to do a trade.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> My perspective is one of the reasons we have a lot of the problems we have is because we have weak people in positions of leadership and they wouldn’t be weak if they did a trade when they were young.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:02:41]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I know plenty of tradies who are soft cunts! So I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like these days they work differently, I suppose. Maybe it’s just the way I was worked.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But like, also, there’s different trades too. Like I said, if you’re a Sparky <span style="color: #008000;">[electrician]</span>, like, you just walk around just plugging things in. It’s not really that hard.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You still crawl around inside ceilings, underneath houses, occasionally have to dig around in, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> In like in awkward spaces. Like, how’s that special? Like, I don’t know.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’re providing electricity to the community. It’s very special.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, they get paid well. Sparkies get paid well. But we don’t need to make everyone be a Sparky to like have a society or something like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know. I think we have a very spoiled generation who just think that things just happen! They think that guns just get made and buildings just. Lights just turn on and shit just works because that’s how things have always been for them. But when the shit hits the fan, man, you’re gonna need to have a lot of maintenance men. You’re gonna need some men who know how to build shit and maintain shit! Otherwise no one’s gonna know even where to start.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You know, Australia has one of the highest, I think we have like the second highest builders per capita of like any country in the world.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, they’re all going broke right now too, like it’s hard, hard times out there because we’re bringing in a lot of foreign people who are undercutting local builders but then producing really shit houses!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Garbage! Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And yeah, people just getting ripped off and going broke left, right and centre. You have to be a pretty reputable builder with a good reputation to survive out there. I heard that Matt Trihey, who’s still a builder and runs a protest group called National Workers Alliance in Melbourne, he was on with Graham on Offaly Offensive podcast, I heard. And hopefully they discuss a little about what it’s like to be a builder currently out there. Because I haven’t been in construction for a few years now and I’m not sure how the building situation actually looks with boots on the ground from that perspective. Hopefully they talk about it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> So speaking of Matt, because obviously Matt took over the Melbourne wing of the March for Australia, and the next March for Australia he’s going to be heading up Melbourne again, I believe. There’s been some interesting developments in March for Australia world that I’m privy to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I’ve heard is that, and what I’ve seen, is that the Brisbane March for Australia people have now broken away. They’ve created their own website which is actually a couple months old, which indicates that this is premeditated, called Australiamarches.com or some shit like that! And they’re stealing the branding of March for Australia but at the same time separating themselves and saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we’re not racist, and we’re not Nazis!”</span></h3>
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<p>And so on. And they’re trying to cuck everything out and they’re separated themselves from the rest of the March for Australia around the country. Because people who were paying attention would have noticed that in Brisbane, March for Australia turned into a bit of a cuck fest. Like in the first one, they had like some Indian guy give a song speech at a mass immigration rally. And then basically it just seems like the last one was just like all these politicians back to back to back giving speeches as like campaign pitches. And like the idea of March for Australia was supposed to be this like grassroots nationalist uprising against mass immigration. And in Brisbane they’ve kind of moderated the message:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, patriotism has nothing to do with racism!”</span></h3>
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<p>And here’s 3 <span style="color: #008000;">[6]</span> million speeches from politicians. And there was disputes. The national March for Australia team wanted to ban Gerard Rennick from giving a speech at the last one because he came out the week before the rally kind of with all these pro-immigration comments. We discussed it on the last stream, but he was allowed to speak anyway. He didn’t even mention immigration. There’s an anti-immigration rally. He didn’t even mention immigration because these organisers up in Brisbane have gone their own way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so that’s interesting because now that I guess there’s going to be a bit of a dispute between two different factions. The people in Sydney, the people in Melbourne, in other cities, are a lot more radical than the people up in Brisbane. It feels like in Brisbane there’s like this big conservative scene. Brisbane has become kind of the capital of conservatism in Australia. You know, like all the Right, the kind of smaller Right-wing parties are kind of based there, it seems, and they have CPAC there and it’s like the heartland of the Liberal Party and all of that. And there’s a lot of all White Boomers who moved up to Queensland and it’s a Whiter state, it’s an older state, it’s got a lot of conservative voters.</p>
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<p>Whereas like in Sydney and Melbourne it’s gone Left-wing, there’s a lot of immigrants, there’s a lot of Lefties. But then the Right-wing is a lot more nationalist and a lot more radical. It’s kind of polarised. Whereas like in Brisbane it’s just like a conservative, you know, hug box.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:07:54]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s funny, is that things need to be worse, things need to be pretty bad before people stop trying to be the nice conservative guy and just accept the fight for what it is like I heard Elon Musk on Joe Rogan Show recently. There was a clip of him and he was saying that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no perfect way to do deportations. That if you’re seeking perfection, it won’t happen.”</span></h3>
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<p>What he means by that is if you’re trying to be nice about deportations because they were talking about how there’s a conspiracy within the Democrat Party in Australia <span style="color: #008000;">[America]</span> to bring in as many illegals as possible because then they then count those votes through some voter fraud system. And that’s how they’re trying to keep themselves in power or regain power in that country’s system. And Musk was saying that deporting illegals is basically the main priority of the Trump administration because that’s one of the ways they can prevent the Democrats from leveraging that whole corrupt system to gain power, the illegal immigration system.</p>
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<p>But anyway, he was saying that if you’re going to try to be like morally good, to be the nice guy and perfect how deportations happen, it just won’t happen! You’ve just got to like literally grab people and remove them. You’ve got to be mean, you’ve got to be nasty. You’ve got to understand that this is like an attack on your country.</p>
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<p>And there’s a similar situation with conservatives in Australia where no one’s willing to just “<em>be mean</em>”. No one’s willing to understand that this is a fight for our survival. Right. It’s like everyone’s still trying to be the nice guy:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t want to say anything mean. I don’t upset those people over there.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I suppose things are still that way in Brisbane because things just aren’t bad enough in Brisbane yet? Come down and stay in Melbourne for a couple of months and you’ll realise how concern like bullshit trying to be the nice guy is. You realise how much of a waste of time it is trying to not be racist and not upset those people over there. It’s just that time is done down here in Melbourne! It’s done in Sydney as well! But I suppose Brisbane still needs to arrive at that realisation.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, that’s part of it. I think that’s part of it. But also what’s part of it, I think, is that the institutional strength of the Right-wing there is such that they’ve kind of hijacked things. Before the first March for Australia, there were people that were behind the scenes trying to get involved and they wanted to bring in people from the One Nation Party and bring in people from this Right-wing minor party and that Right-wing minor party. And that’s one of the reasons why the NSN stuck our nose in it because we were like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, fuck off!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because we had to secure it from being kind of watered down and turned into, just like a campaign opportunity for all these politicians. It’s not about the politicians, it’s about the rest of us! It’s about the fact that the politicians have failed us. It’s about the fact that there are no good politicians. We’re trying to create a new generation that could provide an alternative.</p>
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<p>But the establishment is complicit. Even the Right-wingers that are somewhat better are still complicit because they haven’t offered anywhere near enough of a resistance, a meaningful enough of a resistance. That’s why March for Australia came into existence because no one was, I guess other than us, was doing it! Was saying what needed to be said anyway.</p>
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<p>Of course they saw the numbers swell and the opportunity to gain legitimacy and whatever. And so then they started jumping on it late. But then they said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh but if you want, we’ll bring in money so you can have security and big stages and good speakers and like a speaker system and everything. But in order to get our A list speakers to give speeches, we can’t have the Nazis there and we can we can’t say things this way and we can’t say things that way and everything has to be toned down.”</span></h3>
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<p>And they were all told:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“To get fucked!”</span></h3>
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<p>But the people who kind of played ball were the guys in Brisbane. The guys in Brisbane were the ones that played ball with those types. And now it’s basically been a conspiracy to usurp not just the March for Australia Brisbane, but I think they want to try and take the whole thing. They’re not going to be able to.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Unfortunately for them it’s not speakers and better electrical equipment that’s spark political upheaval and even revolutionary politics. It’s personalities.</p>
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<p>So I don’t think the Liberal Party can produce the personalities to actually keep the March for Australia going. But is it the Liberal Party that’s actually doing this? Are they behind that?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I don’t think it’s a Liberal Party. I think it’s the conservative establishment, let’s say.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Who is that? And is that like all the T-shirt salesmen?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, there’s a series of influencers. People that are associated, on the fringes of Sky News, people that are associated with all these different One Nation, these other political parties, the Andrew Hastie wing of the Liberal Party, that whole spectrum. The professional protesters who are always doing protests all the time, the well oiled machine protesters that every time there’s an issue they pop up and try and do, &#8230; The people that were doing the September 13, a lot of the people involved in that this is what I’m talking about. There’s a whole kind of like industry. It’s nowhere near as big as it is in America, thank God, but there’s an industry of like professional conservatism, let’s say, that’s not in the Liberal Party. It’s like outside it. And sometimes there’s a cross pollination with it. And it’s those people and, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:13:29]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’ll kill it, won’t they? If they do get control of it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We’re not going to be able to win this by being nice. That’s what they wanted. They want to nice guy our way to it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They don’t want to win it, though. They probably don’t want to win it. They probably just want to get control of it, leverage it, milk it for all it’s worth, or whatever they can get from it until it dies. That’s it!</p>
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<p>And it will die in their hands. Because they just don’t know how to handle that kind of like, they see it as a marketing opportunity. They see it as a way to make some money. They see it as a way to divert some votes here and there, and that’s it. And that’s what they’ll do. They’ll just milk it for that purpose. They won’t see the energy, they won’t see the potential. They won’t use that energy for anything truly revolutionary, truly meaningful, to create an upheaval, to create a counterculture, to build momentum for a great change, like for a great purpose, which is going to change politics somehow. It’s just like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, how can we make some money out of these people? How can we sort of divert their votes in a direction which is favourable to our sponsors? And then how can we just move on after that and wipe our hands clean of it?”</span></h3>
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<p>That will be the conservative approach, the merchant approach to the March for Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, the “<em>Merch for Australia</em>”. So Brisbane is going to turn into grifter slop garbage, unfortunately. But Sydney and Melbourne, I think Perth and the other cities should stay solid. So for this is for Australia Day, of course, the next one is on Australia Day <span style="color: #008000;">[Jan 26, 2026]. And that I remember when the idea of doing the August 31st March came up. Part of what made me excited to do it was thinking two steps ahead. Not just that it in of itself would be a great day and that it would be a powerful expression of national sentiment and so on. But I was thinking if that is a success, then you can then leverage that to then call the patriots back out on Australia Day. Because of course, everyone remembers what happened last Australia Day. Last Australia Day, we did our march in Adelaide. We had our national conference in Adelaide, you know, at the beginning of the year. And we were mass arrested for trying to celebrate our national holiday.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you know, every city in Australia has these huge Invasion Day communist-Aboriginal fuck Australia, fuck White people protests! And it’s just outrageous! It’s outrageous that our cities get overrun by that every year on our national holiday. And there’s no proper celebration of our national holiday that Australia is under attack.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> How is that not disfavorable to social cohesion? It’s like you guys are the only thing affecting or having any sort of negative effect on how people feel about the state of social cohesion in Australia. But having like, what are they, what are they? These rallies against like Australia Day Invasion Day protests with people holding signs saying Burn Australia Down:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s all fine. No threat to social cohesion there. No need for special AFP task forces! No need to disrupt and dissuade those people from their activities. No need to talk about that at all!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s only nationalism that’s a threat to Australia, apparently.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Like, so being anti-Australia is sweet, but being pro-Australia is the worst possible thing. That’s literally like we live in the inverted, &#8230; Obviously everyone watching this gets it. We live in the total inversion.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Wish we could be a fly on the wall. Like watching certain task forces and police officers get briefed on like Right-wing groups, the sort of shit that they would get fed about Right-wing groups.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I know what they get fed! Because I’ve been pulled over with Jack Eltis. I remember we got pulled over by the Raptor Squad. This was last year. And the Raptor Squad are like an anti-bikie task force, which is for the benefit of the audience. And they were just like, Jack was driving and they were giving Jack like tickets for not indicating left when exiting roundabouts and just trying to fuck with him, you know, stuff that like police never care about, that no one, like stupid laws on the books, technically that no one obeys. And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Qu do you feel good about yourself? I mean, this is fucking pathetic! You guys are fucking pathetic!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you guys are terrorists!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is that what they said?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s because before they go out to disrupt and engage with you guys and whatever you’re doing, someone from the government or someone from police command briefs them and says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“These guys are terrorists. They will stab you, they will kill you! So go hard on them!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s what they will get told. And these rank, these cops, you know what do you call it? Rank and file cops, they would just gobble that up because they’re paid to gobble it up, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So who is it, who is it that’s lying to police and calling a group of people engaging in political protest “<em>terrorists</em>”? Who’s doing that? Wouldn’t that be illegal? Oh, I forgot. We don’t have any actual standards or rules. We’re not a real democracy. So nothing’s really illegal, is it?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:18:37]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, if myself, I know this is true. Also, I remember I’ve been in the car driving home from night out with Jacob Hersant and they got his licence and put it into the system and they’re like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh!”</span></h3>
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<p>And one cop pointed to the other and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, Counter Terrorism watch!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like he’s on a counter terrorism watch list. What act of terrorism has Jacob Hersant committed? None! He just conveys his political views in public that offend people’s feelings and that’s “<em>terrorism</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, they brief the police that we, they literally have political police in this country as we have been discussing. We have political police in this country that are basically briefed on so-called Right-wing extremism, nationalism, as the greatest threat to our country. And that people like us say that it’s the immigrants that are a threat to the country and so on, when it actually is! Like people like us say the truth and then. But apparently we’re the threats for saying the truth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, my point is that the Australian people know, the average Aussie knows that Australia Day is under attack and that it’s under attack because they’re under attack, because we’re under attack as a people. And they attack our day because they’re attacking the legitimacy of our whole country because they’re attacking us and our claim to this country.</p>
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<p>And so if you look at the opinion polls, Australia Day has become more popular in recent years because people are feeling defiant. That’s what happens when you attack people existentially.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so what I think is necessary spiritually for this country is for the cities to be just covered in Australian flags and patriots on Australia Day because then the media will say that it’s racist and that we’re all Nazis, &#8230; Some of us are Nazis. They’re going to put us all over the television. We’re going to be ready for it, but they’re going to make it all about that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the average Australian is going to be sitting at home and says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Isn’t that what’s supposed to happen on Australia Day? Aren’t we supposed to celebrate Australia Day? Aren’t we Australia?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You know what’s funny is a lot of recently arrived immigrants are confused about that too. Like, when people who have just arrived in Australia, they hear about Australia Days happening soon, they sometimes, like, show up in a public place with Australian flags and stuff because they’re like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, we’re citizens. I can’t believe we’re in Australia. We’re so happy to be here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there’s like White Leftists, like blonde people with Aboriginal T-shirts on, just throwing bricks at them and screaming:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You fucking racist!”</span></h3>
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<p>Like, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> could you imagine how confused you would be?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but that’s the thing. Like, last year, they were able to make it look like we’re this fringe crazy group. And people got very emotional. They were like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well they shouldn’t be getting arrested for celebrating Australia Day, singing Waltzing Matilda. That’s fucked up!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we knew they were going to arrest us and that we’d create that optics trap. But how edifying would it be to then fast forward one year and it’s just tens of thousands and it’s all over the country and it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Arrest this! What are you going to do this time?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Australians need to remind one another that we’re still here and that we haven’t given up yet and that has an intangible quality. Some people say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What’s the point of marching in the street?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so on. But it has an intangible quality. And this wouldn’t be a protest. This would be a celebration. And the Lefties, they’re already protesting us regardless of whether we show up or not. They do it every year. They’re the protesters. Let them be the protests. We can be the ones celebrating who we are on our national holiday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think this Australia Day will be incredible! I think if you’re not marching for Australia Day this year, you’re a fake patriot. I mean, you just have to get out there because, &#8230; Yeah, you just have to! We have to take our cities back. It’s like a matter of honour. Do you agree? I presume you must agree.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, what am I agreeing with exactly? That people should fly the flag of their country proudly on Australia Day and celebrate Australia Day.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But then we should march, like in the cities, like with March for Australia.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, the local governments used to facilitate those marches. I think it was cancelled during the pandemic. The Australia Day parades, the traditional ones, were cancelled during the Covid pandemic for health reasons, for your “<em>safety</em>”. Because it’s not like any evil is ever done in the name of your safety.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they were just never reinstated. So after like Covid just vanished overnight after everyone got vaccinated because that’s all they cared about was injecting everybody with the shit that ended up causing heart attacks that they never talked about. Once they got what they wanted in that regard, well, everything just went back to normal. And the marches, the Australia Day parades were never reinstated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we should just have our own parades. I guess, like everyone should just get out on the streets and march through the city organically. You don’t need the government to tell you it’s okay to do it. Just go and do it for your country.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:23:45]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, it’d be a fun day out. So I’m really looking forward to it. That was like, I’ve had this vision in my mind for some time,. So and I think it’d be powerful. And then we’re going to be doing our conference, our national conference that weekend and be launching, we’ll probably be launching the political party around then. I don’t know exactly when we’re going to do that, if we’re going to try and bundle it together or do it separately. We haven’t exactly decided on that timing. But you know, next year is going to be a big one for us and for nationalism and what a way to kick it off.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So anyway, because of all of that, and that’s a beautiful vision, great things to think about. Is really disappointing what’s happened in Brisbane. And I think it’s going to turn into a big drama and this is going to be like the animating kind of battle lines, I guess, of the next phase of where it’s going to be the containment Right, the remnants of the conservative establishment trying to rebrand themselves as anti-immigration populists, even though they’re not really that sincere about it and are just kind of grifting off it or trying to angle it for their narrow political purposes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s basically just maintaining “<em>conservatism incorporated</em>”, you know, maintaining the inertia of that whole structure of compromise and cowardice versus the re-emergence of real grassroots nationalism, trying to use that intergenerational energy, the energy of the White youth fueling the rise of a real nationalist movement. And the battle between these two forces and picking a side between these two forces is going to be the animating battle of the next few years. And like you can see that’s also kind of true, I think in not just in this situation but in America as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like recent developments over there where I’m just seeing the old guard, &#8230; The difference I think between the Americans and us is that there’s more of a conservative establishment. So it’s like in America they’re fighting over control of the conservative establishment. Like nationalists are trying to like claim the conservative establishment and redirect it towards their ends.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas in Australia the conservative establishment isn’t worth trying to like take over. Like it’s a joke! You should just push it over, just blow it up, get rid of it, replace it, beat it!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> By blow it up you don’t mean like actually blow it up, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, not literally planting bombs or something of that nature, but like, it’s a metaphor. But ASIO don’t care at this point that we’re not violent, that we’re not terrorists.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah apparently. You’re being treated as though you are anyway.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> So ASIO, stop with fucking us! Feds, stop fucking with us! We’re gonna try and take this in a political direction. We’re going to go away from the kind of more terroristic angle that you guys don’t like and we’re going to move into a peaceful political solution orientation. Allow us to do it! Because if you actually care about terrorism in the sense of you want to stop it, the only way that you’re going to stop it is by giving people with our views an outlet to express them within the system.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you lock us out so that we can’t participate in the system, that’s how you’re going to create, &#8230; And ASIO said this themselves, like Mike Burgess* has said this himself, that he doesn’t expect us to commit terrorism. He expects some random guy who’s a nationalist, who gets black pilled, who thinks the movement has got no hope, goes off as a lone wolf and does some crazy shit! But they don’t even care about that. They’re not talking about terrorism anymore because they know they can’t make that stick on us. So now they’re just talking about what, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Michael Paul Burgess is an Australian intelligence official, and the current Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO). Prior to his appointment to this role on 16 September 2019, Burgess was director-general of the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). Burgess was born in England, and immigrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1973 at the age of seven. He was the first member of his family to study in higher education, receiving a degree in electrical engineering from the South Australian Institute of Technology in 1988.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What happens when like literally everyone who ever supported NSN or White Australia ends up feeling that way. Because as soon as they tried to form a political party, the police just went even harder to disrupt them from doing that. And there was no chance of them actually having a voice or any representation. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> It’s like you guys when you were just hosting protests, making social media posts. Like two years ago, things weren’t that bad. I mean, you had some minor problems with police, but mostly it was just journalists giving you shit in the media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But now you want to form a political party, you’re almost on the way to doing it, you’re making real progress. And now all of a sudden the whole Federal Police service is forming task forces and openly admitting that they’re going to do everything possible to “<em>disrupt you from forming a political party</em>”. It’s like they go even harder when you actually try to establish yourself or establish some sort of legitimate political representation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if I were an intelligence agent, I’d be sitting there scratching my head thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What’s the real problem here? Is it these guys trying to form a political party and obey the law? Or is it whoever’s in government mobilising the police into special task forces to harass, disrupt and set those guys up on bullshit charges for trying to form a political party? Maybe we need to look a little deeper into the actual system. Maybe the system’s the problem!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> This is an interesting, &#8230; So meanwhile, while they’re treating us as the problem, is this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“ASIO boss Mike Burgess warns of realistic possibility foreign government could attempt to kill a dissident in Australia.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This article came out today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What’s that in relation to? What foreign government?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’ll read it out:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Delivering the 2025 Lowy Lecture on Tuesday, he said, ‘this threat is real. We believe there are at least three nations willing and capable of conducting lethal targeting. It is entirely possible the regimes would try to hide their involvement by hiring criminal cutouts, as Iran did when directing its arson attack’.”</span></h3>
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<p>So he’s still pushing this nonsense that Iran was behind the synagogue arson attacks when obviously it was the fucking jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:30:09]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s weird! It’s like, why would Iran do that? What benefit is there for Iran?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> There is no benefit.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It could very possibly be someone acting through Iran to make it look like it’s Iran.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, the jews! We know that Israel have penetrated Iran because when they had their war earlier this year, Mossad were conducting targeted assassinations inside Tehran of their top political and military officials. So it shows that Mossad have guys on the inside, that they’ve fully penetrated the Iranian system and establishment and so on.</p>
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<p>So they could easily make, they could easily pay, you know, gangs here to do fire-bombings of synagogues and then make it look like they were Iranian or something. What a load of garbage!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, paying organised crime. So it came out, Mark Latham brought this up as well recently that he asked the, I think the police commissioner in New South Wales about, because they have something called Strike Force Pearl, which is their anti-semitism special task force or something. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Of all the arrests they made in response to anti-semitic, you know, arson attacks and graffiti incidents and whatever, how many were organised crime?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“All of them!”</span></h3>
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<p>All of them were organised crime.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s not anti-semites doing it. Someone’s paying, you know, biker gangs and shit to do it. Why? Why would they be doing that? Well, what was the net result? The net result? Did any jews get hurt? No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it wasn’t to get the jews. The net result was to basically provide a context, a pretext for the jewish lobby and its satellites in the media and Sky News. What does Mark Latham call it? “<em>Sky jews</em>”. And instead of the Daily Telegraph, he says the “<em>Daily Tel Aviv</em>”. For the jewish media and the jewish lobby to pressure successfully the government into passing Hate Speech laws.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So obviously it was the fucking jews that paid the gangsters. I mean, one plus one equals two.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe they know that, maybe ASIO knows that. But they’re publicly running with the “<em>oh, Iran did it</em>”, to make Israel think they’re not on to them. I mean, that’s a long shot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what they say publicly doesn’t always need to line up with what they actually know. They’re an intelligence agency, so they could be playing a long game.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> This is interesting. In this article, it’s supposed to be about foreign governments attempting to kill dissidents. And you were just talking about how you think they could try to kill me potentially, if I get too successful. Or you, or our friends. What he says here:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Angry, alienated individuals are embracing anti-authority ideologies and conspiracy theories, engaging in uncivil debate and unpeaceful protest.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Where’s that happen?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The aggrieved, not necessarily espouse violent views. It may see violence as a legitimate way to affect political societal change. The way nationalist and racist violent extremists attempted to leverage the so-called March for Australia rallies is a case in point. The biggest neo-Nazi group, the National Socialist Network, or White Australia as it is rebranding itself, identified the demonstrations as a vehicle to raise its profile. It strategically and opportunistically exploited the organisers complaints about immigration and the cost of living. Even if the organisation does not engage in terrorism, I remain deeply concerned by its hateful, divisive rhetoric and increasingly violent propaganda?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What do you mean violent propaganda?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Hang on, did Burgess say that specifically?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah!:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“And the growing likelihood these things will prompt spontaneous violence, particularly in response to perceived provocation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what this is saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We might upset people who will then attack us, and that this is therefore irresponsible.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What a joke!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So he’s actually referencing members of Australian nationalism or specifically White Australia as potential targets for assassination. Is that what he’s saying?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I haven’t seen those explicit comments here, but I’m still reading:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“While nationalist and racist violent extremists make up the significant majority of our investigations into ideologically motivated extremism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>So still the majority of ASIO’s work is on us. I mean, it’s crazy to think about how many people working in these federal agencies are just focused on the boys, like literally us!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Fucking crazy! Especially when you see the boys and like you know them. They’re literally just normal guys.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like they’re watching right now! There’s like feds watch, like they watch every episode of this shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, they have to.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like you’re fucking pathetic! Hi feds! Fuck you! Ike, what a joke.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> When he said, when Burgess said that White Australia or you guys utilise concerns about immigration to exploit or gain your profile or whatever as a political force. Doesn’t literally every fucking political group or party that ever existed do the same thing?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, One Nation is trying to exploit it for themselves. The Liberal Party tries to exploit it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Massive realisation, bro! Like literally that’s what politics is. You leverage an environment and situation to your advantage. Like as long as it’s not violent, it’s legal. But that’s changing right now, isn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If people attack us and we fight back. And he says:</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, it’s very concerning.</p>
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<p>Anyway, continue.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Since, oh, he’s just going on about fucking October <span style="color: #008000;">[7th]</span> 2023, anti-Israel, blah, blah, blah. All he cares about is people doing nationalism or being anti-Israel. It’s just like political policing. Like the positions of the state is that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“White people bad, jews good! And we want to enforce that.”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s all he’s saying, basically.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think the days are almost gone, where you can sit on streams like this and talk like we’re talking now, I don’t think this will be possible in another year or two. Maybe even sooner than that. I think the world we grew up in where you can just observe how ridiculous the government is or how unjustly you’re being treated by government agencies, by police, and you can just openly discuss that or draw attention to it. I almost think those days are gone. We’re almost done with that.</p>
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<p>Like, you’ll be streaming like this and they’ll just come into your house and smash your camera and arrest you over some like. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I actually believe that we’re going to go through a time like that pretty soon. I feel it in my gut. Yeah, we’re almost done with this. This will be a thing of the past pretty soon.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I don’t know. I think it’s a bit much. I don’t think.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think you’ll be surprised. Australia is very corrupt.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, it is corrupt. It is corrupt, but I don’t think they have the ability to do that.</p>
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<p>But anyway, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, they’re already raiding people on no evidence. Like they’re just coming into your house and saying: </p>
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<p>They don’t have any fucking proof. And they’re just using that as an excuse to take all your shit! So they’re doing it already.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Well, it’s not really the same thing though, is it? Because you don’t, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, it’s only one step away. Like, it’s basically within the same tier.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s like, they use the, “<em>the process is the punishment</em>” type thing, but they are not actually succeeding in getting the punishment in those scenarios. I mean, Tom just represented himself from a jail cell over zoom in court and won the other day.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but he’s still in jail.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, he’s in jail for running up a hill and hitting people. Like, it’s, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Partly. It’s like 25 other charges as well.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I mean, obviously what’s happening to him is unfair, but it’s like I push back against this, like catastrophizing: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Oh, they’re just gonna round us all up and put us in jail anytime now.”</h3>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, if you look at what’s happening, like if you just observe the pattern of their activity, what they do is when they don’t get a result by going or by increasing their activity in regards to like taking a more aggressive approach. When they don’t get the result they want by taking a more aggressive approach, they just become more aggressive again to try to get a result. And if that doesn’t work, then they just get more aggressive again. That’s the pattern of behaviour I’m seeing from the current political policing government system. So based on that pattern, it’s just mathematical certainty that they’re just going to become more aggressive.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but at the end of the day, like they don’t have the ability to just arrest, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They do have that.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They still have to win in court. You’ll win in court and then you make them look stupid. Like there’s a limit., &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I agree. That can take years. But then it depends on how compromised the judges are as well. So there’s still variables there to consider.</p>
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<p>And like they really do have the ability, they have the ability to do whatever they want. There’s just words on paper that they need to manipulate to make it seem legit.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, there’s legitimacy though. Like if they push too hard, particularly as we’re building this political party, if they push too hard against us, you know, it will be too delegitimizing. So they have, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There is that. But then you can argue that they’ll just make it exclusively about you and your ideology, and they’ll get everyone to agree on those terms. So it can’t happen to anyone else, but it can happen to these Nazis because of “<em>how abhorrent they are</em>”. And everyone will be like, “<em>yes</em>”! In Parliament. I think they made a law. Do you know who Julian Knight is? He was that guy who shot a bunch of police officers. Maybe Huddle Street Massacre, Was it Huddle Street?</p>
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<p>Anyway, he’s in jail and he was eligible for parole a while ago. Did he get parole recently? I can’t remember. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t. But Parliament made a law specifically to keep him in jail because he was considered such a villain of society, specifically to keep him in jail. So reason I’m telling you that is because though they can just try to make laws specifically to stop you guys registering exclusively, and they’ll claim that that’s, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like, if they want to try and do that. And then I’m happy to go to the High Court. We’ll win. I’m pretty confident, like, it’s unconstitutional.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I hope. So yeah.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And then it will just be like, good publicity.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And I’m not being. I’m not taking a black pill here. Like, if you just look at the pattern of behaviour, like I said, of the Australian government and policing system, this is what they’re gonna do, I reckon. Because they just get more and more aggressive, more and more.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, they’re playing games.</p>
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<p>But the problem that they have is the police try to go further than what the laws actually allow them to. They’re getting ahead of themselves. They’re not going about it with the Right progression. It’s not the policy, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:41:29]</span></p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Where’s the incentive for them not to do that, though? Because they do that and then there’s no punishment. There’s no drawback for them. The charges against you that didn’t hold up in court and that took a year for you to sort of clear your name of two years. Well, you still have to go through all of that process and then the charges just get dropped or you get found not guilty or whatever. And then there’s no actual consequence for the police for taking two years of your life.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> There aren’t any consequence for me either. I got a bunch of court dates I have to call into, and I got held in a jail cell for a few hours. Like, I don’t give a fuck! Like, it doesn’t really change anything for me.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So I just think there should be an immediate and pretty severe consequence for police, for the prosecution department, if they lay charges on you that end up just getting dropped or you found not guilty. You shouldn’t have to go through like a second lawsuit process that takes another two fucking years and costs another $40,000 to try to get like some sort of justice against malicious prosecution. It should just be like some sort of immediate consequence. Like the prosecutor who signed off on the bullshit charge should just get sacked straight away! Maybe his whole team, something like that.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I agree with that, but that’s not gonna, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Especially when we have a system where there’s no real punishment for just being malicious as a prosecutor or as a police officer. You can just do it and then later, oh the judge finds that this isn’t legit, so throws it out and then the cops just goes home laughing anyway. Because he’s still robbed you of all that time and energy and money!</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but that’s what happens. It’s just like this circle jerk where we just get jerked around. Obviously there’s an exception when it comes to. When they allege, like, an assault or something that’s separate. But when it comes to these speech crimes and political machinations, it’s just this. It’s just this big, like, jerk around that then ultimately doesn’t actually result in very serious punishments, or if there’s even a conviction.</p>
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<p>So it’s like, I just don’t really care that much. And you kind of let it. That’s the thing. That’s why I do find it annoying the catastrophizing, because that’s like, part of what it is. It’s like to create fear so that people think: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Oh, well, like, we can’t do anything because the police stop us.”</h3>
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<p>And it’s like: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Okay, but they haven’t stopped us yet. They haven’t actually stopped us.”</h3>
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<p>And so it shows that if they could just stop us so easily, they would have by now. But they can’t. Like, there’s limitations on what they can do, and we’re skirting on the edge. But they don’t have the ability to just like an easy, like, snap us in half option because they would have taken it by now.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’re trying to create one. The limitations are changing fast.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They’re trying to.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s what we’re observing right now!</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They haven’t actually come up with a formula on how to do it yet. They haven’t figured out how to do it. They’ve got all these think tanks and lobby groups and they’ve passed all these different laws and they do all these meetings and have all the, &#8230; And they still haven’t fucking done it yet.</p>
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<p>So to me, that demonstrates something. You know, you got to take stock of that you have been around for a while. Tom’s been around for a while. Like this isn’t like something that just popped up in the last year that they’re dealing with. They haven’t figured out how to deal with it. All they’ve done is kind of amplify us and make us more famous. They haven’t figured out the method. And using like policing tactics to deal with something like this is the wrong way. If they wanted to beat us, the way you beat us is by creating a fake opposition movement that basically is kind of nationalist, but it’s still controlled by them. And you bring all the people that would otherwise support us into that alternative. But they can’t do that they don’t have the skills to do that and they don’t have the personnel to do that. And they don’t have the ability to concede that because they’re so ideologically fixated that even like the ZOG version of us, they would be still too offended by it, to allow it to exist.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I think we should do some Superchats. Unless you can respond to that, but we could do some Superchats.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, it sounds like a good idea. It’s been a good discussion. Pretty intense talking points and topics. But it’s an intense environment down here in Australia right now, isn’t it?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah it is.</p>
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<p>But yeah, Sign up to the party! Sign up to the fucking party! Like seriously. Mr. Marshwood said: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“What’s your take on the mischling* question?”</h3>
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<p>Well, I don’t even know what you mean by the mischling question. Like, yeah, do I agree with the Nuremberg Laws? Maybe they’re a little bit too lenient I would say.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Mischling was a pejorative legal term which was used in NS Germany to denote persons of mixed “<em>Aryan</em>” and “<em>non-Aryan</em>”, such as Jewish, ancestry as they were classified by the Nuremberg racial laws of 1935. In German, the word has the general denotation of ‘hybrid’, ‘mongrel’, or ‘half-breed’. Outside its use in official Nazi terminology, the term Mischlingskinder was later used to refer to war babies born to non-White soldiers and German mothers in the aftermath of World War II. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>But you know, from what I’ve seen like an Ashkenazi jew is like 70% White, 30% Levantine.</p>
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<p>So if someone is like, so the Germans, if you’re between 1/2 and 1/8 jewish, you’d be classified as a Mischling, which meant that you weren’t classified as a full jew. Or you could stay in Germany but you couldn’t like work in like government or the media or any like sensitive position.</p>
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<p>But if you were like 1/8 jewish or less, then you could be considered like a full German and you could do most things other than join the SS which had like 100% blood purity requirements. So like, is that what you’re asking? Like, I mean, I’m not going to criticise it. At the time it was probably a reasonable law. I would probably go about things a little bit differently today. And because the primary issue isn’t really like jewish mixing, it’s like other non-Whites who are, if jews are like mostly White with some admixture when they mix in, it’s a bit different than if someone’s like Asian or black or something because it’s more of a genetic divergence. So you have to be way more strict. Hazel Mango said: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“Why did you move to Sydney, Joel?”</h3>
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<p>I don’t really want to get into all the details of my personal life, but I’m from Sydney, so I kind of just like moved back. Oz88 said: </p>
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<p>No! What do you think, Blair? Are there niggers in heaven?</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Are there black people in heaven? I’m sure there’s been some noble black people who have done some noble stuff. I think it’s pretty dismissive to say, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’d say they’re not going to the same place we’re going.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like, I don’t know, man! I don’t know. Do you believe in heaven, Joel?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Not really, no. But like let’s say you did. Like let’s just say like for argument’s sake, like we’re on board with that. Do you think? Are we going to be, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, considering that, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Like what’s up my nigger?</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like considering that like having that racial admixture creates an earthly hell, I can’t imagine the most ideal, it’s not really living conditions, like an afterlife, the most pristine existence would be multi-ethnic. It’s probably going to be very orderly and homogeneous, you would think.</p>
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<p>But some people believe that heaven is like your own version of perfect. It’s like a perfect time in your past that you envision. You just kind of keep living in that.</p>
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<p>What would your version of heaven be? What would you like, do you want? Are you like one of those 72 virgins kind of guys? Or do you have like, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, I’m not a fucking Muslim. No, I think that’s a meme idea. I mean I like the notion of Valhalla where it’s just like basically you just fight all day and then pretty much until everyone dies. And then you like respawn, have a big piss up, party all night and then wake up the next morning and fight the death again.</p>
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<p>And then you like respawn, have a party and it just goes like that forever. That sounds pretty cool to me. It’s like playing video games. I was thinking you can just play like GTA like IRL every day with your mates. Like imagine if we could kill each other. But you don’t have to feel bad because like you’ll see me tomorrow. Like just respawn, like be funny as fuck! I’ll kill you all the time.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’re like laughing about it. You’re like, bro, your skull exploded yesterday! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> But yeah. Do you have a dream of niggers? Because personally, in my dreams, everyone’s always White. I’m not just saying that to be edgy.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s a good point, actually. Well, I’ve never really had a close relationship with anyone who’s black. And so there’s not really effective, like memory data of interacting with someone who’s black.</p>
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<p>So I suppose I don’t dream about it because there’s nothing for my brain to draw upon. Because I tend to dream about scenarios that I have experienced. But then there’s all this extra stuff like expansion content bolted on and it turns into something different. I’m sure if I knew a black guy that I probably would dream on occasion about a black guy, but I just, &#8230;</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You don’t dream about niggers! That’s!</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, do you?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No!</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Why are we being asked these questions? What are these questions? Is this Superchats?</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Tollah the Gotcha Joel bro: </p>
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<h3><span style="color: Black;">“When’s your next debate? Get it done. That wog faggot on TikTok who dodged you is a coward! Who else is on the horizon apart from Avi and others?”</h3>
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<p>I don’t know. I don’t really have. I mean, everyone. I don’t know. I got to change my approach because it seems like when I try to debate people, I must be intimidating them. I must be coming on too strong. And they keep running away. In the debate world. I’m like the, desperate incel, who the girl replies to my text and then I spam her with like 45 texts about how she’s the one.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> you got to control that man!</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I gotta play hard to get.</p>
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<div style="color:blue; "><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Too keen. This young axe is too keen. That’s his problem.</p>
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<div style="color:black; "><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Treat ‘em mean, keep ‘em keen. Or something. But it’s like the opposite. I’m like, too mean!</p>
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<p>PongTheBoy<br />
9 hours ago<br />
you fuckinf idiots are single handedly destroying the end immigration movement your gay little marches don’t do anything but scare normies and empower the left and j’s.. fuck both of you retards hopefully you get locked up so us with a brain are able to take over the movement<br />
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What’s been up with Blair recently, it’s like he has no vril and spirit anymore. He started playing video games on stream and doesn’t seem to care as much.<br />
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VerifiedSupporter+<br />
2 days ago<br />
Literally laughed very loudly at Blair’s complete ignorance of JD Vance <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
0 likes</p>
<p>okkkkkk4<br />
2 days ago<br />
Best podcast in the world. Free tom. Blair says things that may happen and Joel says why they won’t lol<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>ProvingNihil<br />
2 days ago<br />
Nice Joy Division shirt Joel!<br />
1 like</p>
<p>jonottawa<br />
2 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s time to cut Blair loose. Every answer, every take, sets off alarm bells. Watch through the show again and tell me I&#8217;m wrong. He&#8217;s either a fed or his heart is no longer in it.<br />
-1 like</p>
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HeronNow<br />
Supporter+<br />
13 hours ago<br />
YOU&#8217;RE WRONG<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>Girnigoe<br />
2 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t think Blair is ever being negative. Someone must play &#8216;devil&#8217;s advocate. As to what ZOG will do to you, look what they&#8217;ve done to everyone else who has opposed them. Get a Ouija Board and ask Julius Stretcher or Alfred Rosenberg.<br />
2 likes</p>
<p>Restlessdreams88<br />
3 days ago<br />
Basic joy division shirt<br />
1 like</p>
<p>imSofaKingRayZest<br />
3 days ago<br />
just a few important points for the white australia parties policies off the top of my head, ending australias un treaties is a must at the start as it legally underpins most of the un-australian laws in place, lima declaration, who health policies, climate change mandates, etc. free speech is also a must, as a org commented to truth, lies can always be defeated by truth, the holocost could never be pushed if truth was honored. a comprehensive policy on technology and its use is also essential with the neural/social distortion capacity, coming dominance of ai and agi and the robotic transition. a massive re education program for both women and men toward a more natural order.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>imSofaKingRayZest<br />
3 days ago<br />
afp have the power to legally hack into your devices and plant illegal material on it then raid you and charge you for having said material. think about that for 58 seconds while another non white immigrant legally becomes australian, cobber.<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>imSofaKingRayZest<br />
3 days ago<br />
so abbos calling for &#8220;their&#8221; land back and an end of australia or importing infinity turd world filth is not seen as racially divisive or threatening social cohesion but white aussies wanting a white australia like it used to be is when we are all suppose to be equal?<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>Keane55<br />
VerifiedSupporter<br />
3 days ago<br />
Also important to remember that Winston Churchill was responsible for the Galipolli disaster, of which the ANZACs were a massive percentage of the casualties.<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>palacepony<br />
Supporter<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yeah this DISRUPT LAW shit.. where is the line drawn here? Rape your wife? Kill your dog? Burn your car? Blair is great to expose the frailty of these stooges and their &#8216;disrupt law&#8217;.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>BradC1988<br />
3 days ago<br />
The WAR film is fucking epic and inspirational. AUSTRALIA FOR THE WHITE MAN! THE REST MUST GO!<br />
1 like</p>
<p>Bolzenschleuder<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel serving up some sweet emo aesthetics tonight<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>Seanybruv<br />
4 days ago<br />
2:22:00 slurs only exist for inferior people and inferior things. It&#8217;s why there are no proper slurs for White people, at least none that actually work in the same way they do for other races.<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>SALAustNZ<br />
4 days ago<br />
No. There are no <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a9.png" alt="💩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> groups in heaven.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>Seanybruv<br />
4 days ago<br />
I can&#8217;t believe you didn&#8217;t talk about the White Australia Rising documentary. I see it&#8217;s been taken off youtube already, it&#8217;s criminally underviewed on Rumble<br />
1 like</p>
<p>Scovell7<br />
Supporter<br />
4 days ago<br />
Blair&#8217;s blackpilling seems to increase with each episode. It really contrasts with what appears to be the mood of the NSN at the moment.<br />
6 likes</p>
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3010phil<br />
4 days ago<br />
They should look at how many from the AFD party in Germany have recently died . Way too many for coincidence<br />
4 likes</p>
<p>fdgrdfg<br />
4 days ago<br />
1:25:50 Blair&#8217;s response was goated ahaha<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>DJTriumph<br />
Supporter<br />
4 days ago<br />
If there was a White Britain Party I would vote for the first time in my life<br />
4 likes</p>
<p>TripleGas<br />
VerifiedSupporter<br />
4 days ago<br />
Erika Kirk (née Frantze) is a yenta.<br />
3 likes</p>
<p>TripleGas<br />
VerifiedSupporter<br />
4 days ago<br />
this whole &#8220;nigggers are going to heaven&#8221; shit is so fucking retarded and is always pushed by fedora fags and Satanists as some kind of own. They don&#8217;t even believe in heaven but try concern troll Christians. Pathetic bunch they are.<br />
-2 likes</p>
<p>AltKuyperian<br />
Supporter+<br />
4 days ago<br />
Sad I keep missing these. Show is over before I get out of bed in the morning lol<br />
3 likes</p>
<p>Dissident_Loner<br />
Supporter<br />
4 days ago<br />
I had hoped that Blair would go off on an uplifting rant and he didn&#8217;t disappoint.<br />
2 likes</p>
<p>LachlanMD<br />
4 days ago<br />
these ads before the show are getting ridiculous <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62d.png" alt="😭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
7 likes</p>
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Seanybruv<br />
4 days ago<br />
watch on Brave browser, no ads<br />
6 likes</p>
<p>MajesticCasual<br />
4 days ago<br />
Brave browser, or Adblock Plug in on FireFox, etc I probably haven&#8217;t seen an ad since 2008 or so. Ads become obsolete and why on YoudenTube they have people manually read ads.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>AltKuyperian<br />
Supporter+<br />
4 days ago<br />
Unfortunately, it&#8217;s due to the large presence of easily fooled boomers on the app.<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>BradC1988<br />
3 days ago<br />
Brave browser solved that problem for me<br />
0 likes</p>
<p>Strueth<br />
3 days ago<br />
p l l<br />
0 likes</p>
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Strueth<br />
2 days ago<br />
oops <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> sorry,, I had my phone in my pocket gardening and just noticed this weird pocket message&#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
0 likes</p>
<p>katana17<br />
5 days ago<br />
[Joel Davis &#8211; NSN Conference Speech &#8211; Aug 10, 2025 &#8211; Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/11/03/joel-davis-nsn-conference-speech-aug-10-2025-transcript/ [In this speech given at a National Socialism Network conference in August 2025, Aussie nationalist activist Joel Davis talks on “Why Individualism is Cowardice”, and how to be effective Whites need to see politics as a team sport, just like our enemies, organized jewry and other groups, and work together. Key points: Organisational strength and media coverage: “This whole weekend has been such an upgrade for the organisation&#8230; They think making us look strong is going to go against us.” Critique of individualist accusations: “These Nazis they can’t get a girlfriend, they’re poor, they’re a bunch of losers&#8230; And so they have to blame the jews, blame the system, blame society for their ills.” Political sacrifice as responsibility: “To engage in this form of politics requires incredible sacrifice. We are the ones that are taking personal responsibility for the future of Our nation.” Politics as inherently collective: “There is no such thing as individualism in politics because politics, by definition is how you organise a society.” Criticism of conservative withdrawal: “What these people actually are advocating for is for you to exit political life, for you to not participate in political life, to become apolitical.” Learning from Left-wing tactics: “The Left make the personal political&#8230; The reason why your life sucks is because of White supremacy, is because of Patriarchy&#8230; And the way that we’re going to fix it is we’re going to go and create a political movement.” Movement costs and commitment: “This movement exacts costs&#8230; If you participate in our movement, you get a lot of enemies&#8230; They’re trying to put us in jail.” Racial politics as team sport: “Politics is a team sport&#8230; We have to play as a team, as White people, if we want to win!” And more, &#8230;.<br />
1 like</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/22/joel-davis-polarisation-phases-with-blair-tom-jun-20-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – Polarisation Phases – with Blair &amp; Tom – Jun 20, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/28/joel-davis-conservative-terrorism-in-australia-as-trump-set-to-become-new-zog-boss-jun-28-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Conservative Terrorism in Australia as Trump Set to Become New ZOG Boss – Jun 28, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/05/joel-davis-muslims-to-create-their-own-party-as-extremism-experts-cry-about-us-to-the-media-jul-4-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – Muslims to Create Their Own Party as “Extremism Experts” Cry About US to the Media – Jul 4, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/20/joel-davis-trump-inevitable-blair-censored-paedo-freaks-destroyed-jul-19-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Trump Inevitable, Blair Censored, Paedo Freaks Destroyed – Jul 19, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/26/joel-davis-when-will-enough-be-enough-jul-25-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – When Will Enough Be Enough? – Jul 25, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/08/03/joel-davis-mass-deportations-now-aug-1-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Mass Deportations Now! – Aug 1, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/08/24/joel-davis-wargaming-the-response-as-communists-organise-brown-parasites-aug-22-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Wargaming the Response as Communists Organise Brown Parasites – Aug 22, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/04/joel-davis-political-existentialism-zionist-hypocrisy-austrians-vote-for-remigration-oct-3-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Political Existentialism, Zionist Hypocrisy, Austrians Vote for Remigration – Oct 3, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/10/joel-davis-jews-turn-hersant-into-a-free-speech-martyr-oct-9-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Jews Turn Hersant into a Free Speech Martyr – Oct 9, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/17/mark-collett-patriotic-weekly-review-with-jacob-hersant-oct-16-2024-transcript/" rel="next">Mark Collett – Patriotic Weekly Review – with Jacob Hersant – Oct 16, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/10/joel-davis-one-nation-ineptitude-or-controlled-opposition-nov-4-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – One Nation – Ineptitude or Controlled Opposition? – Nov 4, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/13/joel-davis-zog-sends-in-the-fun-police-donald-trump-white-power-nov-7-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – ZOG Sends in the Fun Police, Donald Trump White Power – Nov 7, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/15/joel-davis-the-enemy-is-weaker-than-you-think-nov-14-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Enemy is Weaker Than You Think – Nov 14, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/22/joel-davis-its-not-about-race-nov-21-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – “It’s Not About Race” – Nov 21, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/02/17/joel-davis-the-self-imploding-legitimacy-of-our-opposition-why-are-they-so-afraid-feb-14-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – The Self-Imploding Legitimacy of Our Opposition, Why Are They So Afraid? – Feb 14, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/03/20/mark-collett-patriotic-weekly-review-with-thomas-sewell-mar-19-2025-transcript/">Mark Collett – Patriotic Weekly Review – with Thomas Sewell – Mar 19, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/03/24/mark-collett-can-national-socialism-be-resurrected-with-joel-davis-mar-23-2025-transcript/">Mark Collett – Can National Socialism Be Resurrected? – with Joel Davis – Mar 23, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/12/joel-davis-so-much-has-happened-but-were-only-just-getting-started-apr-11-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – So Much Has Happened, But We’re Only Just Getting Started – Apr 11, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-20250503-Joel-Davis-Part-5-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37427" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-20250503-Joel-Davis-Part-5-2.jpg" alt="" width="588" height="897" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/25/joel-davis-what-did-the-anzacs-fight-for-apr-24-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – What Did the Anzacs Fight For? – Apr 24, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/29/australians-vs-the-agenda-with-joel-davis-apr-28-2025-transcript/">Australians Vs. the Agenda with Joel Davis – Apr 28, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; The Offaly Offensive &#160; Blair Cottrell: Part 1 &#160; &#160; Sun, Oct 12, 2025 &#160; [In this video Australian pro-White activist Blair Cottrell joins Graham Conolly on his The Offaly Offensive channel for an in-depth discussion about the cost &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2025/10/19/the-offaly-offensive-blair-cottrell-part-1-oct-12-2025-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video Australian pro-White activist Blair Cottrell joins Graham Conolly on his The Offaly Offensive channel for an in-depth discussion about the cost of right wing activism in Australia. Items discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">1. The host introduces Blair Cottrell as “one of the most notorious and scrutinised figures in Australian activism” for a discussion about his decade in public activism.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">2. The conversation begins with confusion over Blair being mistakenly identified as “Shane Warne’s son” during Covid-19 discussions about vaccine theories.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">3. Graham reveals he recently had his first child, born at home without midwives: “We had her here in this very living room. Just me and Katie. No midwives even.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">4. They discuss unvaccinated children, with Blair noting: “I have noticed that the kids that don’t get vaccinated and so forth, they don’t seem to have many problems.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">5. Graham explains his background: “I grew up in Ireland. Moved here when I was like 23”, and describes his Catholic upbringing.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">6. He describes sectarian divisions in Ireland as cultural rather than serious: “It was light hearted&#8230; You still snipe at each other&#8230; It’s a tribal thing.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">7. Graham discusses getting a dog during Covid and the responsibility it entailed: “When the novelty wears off a dog, that’s when you find out who you are.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">8. They explore the unnaturalness of suburban life for both humans and dogs, with Graham noting dogs on medication for anxiety in Western suburbs.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9. Blair traces his awareness of pharmaceutical manipulation back to 2008, observing depression advertising: “Are you feeling down today? It could be depression. Call this number&#8230; Trying to convince everyone they were depressed.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">10. He explains how drug companies circumvent advertising restrictions: “In Australia, you’re not allowed to advertise the drug. So instead they advertise the symptoms.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">11. Graham discusses family heritage, tracing his name Connolly back to Irish warrior clans: “It means fierce as a hound&#8230; These four tribes of Tara&#8230; They ruled over Ireland.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">12. Blair describes his grandfather’s greyhound training business: “He built his own Greyhound training facility&#8230; People would come from all over the country to have their greyhounds trained.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">13. Blair identifies as a National Socialist: “I would describe myself as a National Socialist, yeah&#8230; I think I was a National Socialist from birth.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">14. He explains his political awakening wasn’t ideological but instinctual: “I just always went with my gut, what I feel is right instinct&#8230; Anything that was sort of been put to me as the socially accepted thing, if it didn’t seem right to me, I would go against it.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">15. Graham describes being called a Nazi online before reading Mein Kampf: “I was being called Nazi so much online&#8230; I thought I was real clever by going, how can I be a Nazi? I’m not a socialist.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">16. Discussion on the “right of conquest” using alien invasion analogies: “If you can imagine a spaceship of space aliens&#8230; What are they supposed to do, go, oh, there’s already people here. We’ll just go!”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">17. Graham expresses belief in aliens and simulation theory: “There’s good possibility it’s a simulation, I think.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">18. Blair argues humans aren’t adapted to Earth: “I’m driving down the street and the sun’s in my face and I can’t see&#8230; If we developed on this planet, shouldn’t I be able to stand the sun glare?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">19. Blair advocates for genetic improvement: “I think the greatest purpose in life&#8230; Is to produce children that are smarter and healthier than you are.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">20. He criticises modern mate selection: “There’s a confusion there as a result of wealth, a great deal of wealth producing higher status men who otherwise wouldn’t have status.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">21. Blair discusses how civilisation removed consequences for bad behaviour: “savages are more dignified in the way they talk to each other because they know they’re risking having their skulls split if they’re not polite.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">22. He explains the United Patriots Front’s rapid growth: “I could hold my phone up to my face and film myself talking&#8230; And that video would get millions of views&#8230; More reach than Channel 9, 7 and 10 would get on social media put together.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">23. Blair describes government counterinsurgency tactics against his movement: “I was the first person in Australia to have my bank accounts disappear. I was the first person in Australia to be charged with what was essentially a thought crime for a Facebook post.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">24. He explains the “Countering Violent Extremism” department: “Their job is to create this layer of plausible deniability for isolating and disrupting dissidents and critics of the Australian government.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">25. Blair details the isolation strategy: “Your primary resource is the people of Australia&#8230; So the job of countering violent extremism is to cut you off from the people of Australia.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">26. He describes Tom Sewell’s early involvement: “Tom was just watching&#8230; He was just a sponge. He was listening to everything I was saying, he was watching everything we were doing, and he was just absorbing all of it.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">27. Blair praises Tom’s character: “All he’s ever wanted to do is help people&#8230; The man had so much integrity that the path was almost inevitable.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">28. He expresses concern about current political policing: “The political policing in Australia right now is really hectic&#8230; People getting raided on no evidence for stuff they obviously haven’t done.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">29. Graham’s first red pill was 9/11: “I was studying architecture at the time&#8230; From day one, I was like, what? No way! .. Some of the best engineers in the world&#8230; You could see them just get visibly uncomfortable.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">30. Reading Mein Kampf was transformative for Blair:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“I thought, oh, that’s Adolf Hitler’s book. Adolf Hitler wrote a book. No one told me that&#8230; Why didn’t anyone tell me?”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">31. He was disappointed by the book’s content: “I was like, this isn’t the book of an evil genius murderer&#8230; Where’s the gas chambers? Where’s the evil takeover the world part? It’s not in here!”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">32. Blair questions Holocaust facilities: “I thought, wow, those must be some hectic facilities&#8230; And then they show me these little broken down shower cubicles with wooden doors.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">33. Graham discusses his parents’ generation’s naivety: “my parents generation were naive&#8230; They didn’t have the Internet&#8230; It’s not that long ago that people were very superstitious.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">34. Blair observes cultural homogenisation: “now the idols exist on the screens&#8230; Now everything’s more universal&#8230; Every suburb, every precinct almost feels like the same.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">35. He criticises immigrant behaviour in Australia: “I think if you were in a country that wasn’t&#8230; Built by another ethnic group and you were a guest, you’d think you wouldn’t be so loud and obnoxious.”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Blair Cottrell: Part 1<br />
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BLAIR COTTRELL joins The Offaly Offensive for an in-depth discussion about the cost of right wing activism in Australia.<br />
We go behind the headlines to meet the man himself and quickly discover he&#8217;s just an everyday Aussie bloke who cares deeply for his own people. In this unfiltered conversation we dive deep into the realities facing those leading true Nationalist movements in present day Australia.<br />
We cover the rise and fall of United Patriots Front (UPF) and LADSOC. Why Blair briefly stepped away from the movement and why he felt compelled to return.<br />
It is an unapologetic analysis of politics and current affairs from a man the Justice System considers and treats as an insurgent.<br />
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Welcome back to The Offally Offensive.</p>
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<p>My guest today is one of the most notorious and scrutinised figures in Australian activism, Blair Cottrell. For over two and a half hours, we dissected his decade in the public eye, focusing on his successes, his failures, and the controversies that have defined his time in activism. We talk about the rapid rise and the complex collapse of major movements like the United Patriots Front and Lads Society, why he briefly stepped away from the movement, and the reasons he felt compelled to return. Throughout this episode, we explore a powerful question. What is the true cost of being unfiltered? It’s a genuine organic two and a half hour chat. Let’s get straight into it.</p>
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<p>I should probably say that I’m here with this important guest that I have today. It’s Shane Warne’s son, Blair Cottrell! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m not that important.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Why did I call you Shane Warne’s son? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There was a bit of a fiasco back in the Covid days where I heard a rumour. I heard a rumour that Shane Warne had gone overseas to try to save himself from vaccine poisoning or something and that’s why he died.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And so I shared that rumour with some people and I heard that through family, friends.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What was funny was, is that that was the first time I ever seen you.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Really?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you got me like, you got me with that! And at the time, I was of course, anti-Covid, anti-vaccine. I was sending that to my friends in Ireland going:</p>
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<p>And then like literally, like 12 hours later, I found out that I was:</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If you watch the video. I never claimed to be Shane Warne’s son.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No. But I only seen like a little snippet.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Someone, some international news, including Indian news. I think cthey shared it saying:</p>
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<p>And everyone believed it.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I believed it. I had to literally 12 hours later, I’m like frantically typing to my mates going:</p>
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<p>Because your credibility is important to you when you’re sort of Right-wing, you’re anti-establishment.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You got to protect your credibility. So straight away, I had to correct the record. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, well, I didn’t even know about that. Tom Sewell sent it to me with a crying, laughing faces.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because he saw it going viral. I was late to the party. I was at work, at home. I hadn’t even seen it yet.</p>
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<p>And then apparently. Yeah, but I’m not Shane Warne’s son. My name is Blair Cottrell.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> This is Blair. Yeah, thanks for coming in, Blair.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, no worries, mate. It was a bit of a trip out here to Geelong.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is from Frankston. It’s like two hours. It’s all the way around there.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Last time I came to Geelong. <span style="color: #008000;">[Graham goes off camera for something]</span> Yeah, no worries, mate. Yeah, I noticed.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> There’s still a learning experience for me here.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So you’ve recently had a baby?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I’ve had a baby recently, yeah. Well, Katie had the baby.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I won’t take credit.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, is it the first one?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> First one, yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Congratulations mate.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Thank you very much. Yeah. It’s three months old now. We had her here in this very living room. Had her, just me and Katie.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Home birth?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No midwives even. We didn’t even have, like, normally you’d have a midwife, you have midwives from the hospital or whatever. But we didn’t have any with midwives or anything. So kate did very well.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve heard a lot of that going around lately.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Especially since that pandemic fiasco. There’s a lot less trust in the official medical institutions and people are just kind of going natural.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And interestingly, my sister did the same thing. She’s got two young boys now. She was told she would never have kids. She had endometriosis and there was problems with her reproductive system. But she focused herself on healing and she had two boys, naturally. Home births.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And there’s nothing wrong with them. They’ve had no vaccines and they’re the biggest, strongest, healthiest boys you’ll ever see.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You notice it with the kids, don’t you? The ones that are not vaccinated?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. Oh, well, I don’t know. I’ve got nothing to compare it to because I haven’t seen that many different babies. But I have noticed that the kids that don’t get vaccinated and so forth, they don’t seem to have many problems.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, no, I’ve noticed this. We had a couple that used to play a game called Vaccinate or Not. So like every child that we’d meet we literally have a little game with them. It seems like a bit more. But where the game, they’d guess, was the child vaccinated or not? And the funny thing about it is you’d always find out because the parents of vaccinated children are always very fast to brag about it. They’re very proud of themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Still these days. You think they would be?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think they still are, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What do you think that’s about?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[04:54]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Being accepted, socially, I think. Comes back to, especially women. I think women have always needed to be part of the tribe socially, haven’t they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe also it’s a way to cope with the guilt that perhaps they were wrong.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Maybe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I did the right thing. I vaccinated my child. I’m a good person.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Maybe trying to block out the possibility that maybe that wasn’t the right choice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. There’s the old saying, it’s easier to fool a man than to convince a man he has been fooled!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Unfortunately, that’s true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> One of the ways I got started in public commentary, activism, was to try to convince Leftists that the whole world view they’d been sold was just kind of a modern communist propaganda trope. And I was convinced I could do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I angered a lot of them. I don’t know if I converted any, but that’s the way I first got started, with a whiteboard in my bedroom. That was back in probably 2015, early 2015, I think.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, I think before I ever got involved in real life doing anything, what I was trying to do was I had this thing in my head where if I can wake up my family and my loved ones and you can wake up your family and your loved ones to “<em>wake up</em>” then we’ll reach critical mass and everybody will wake up!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s not as easy as you think it is! Even just to wake up to people that you think are going to be receptive to it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Your family, are they here in Australia? Ireland?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ireland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I’ve got a brother in Canada.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And the rest are in Ireland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So you grew up in Ireland?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I grew up in Ireland. Moved here when I was like 23. Came here for a holiday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Southern. Northern?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Southern. Right in the middle, little place called County Offley.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That would make you Catholic?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That would make me Catholic, yeah. Grow up in a Catholic school, all that sort of thing. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Interesting! That would have been very, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s actually insane! You, like, you don’t realise it comparison, but it was like the Catholic Church had a real grip on the school system in Ireland back that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What year would that have been?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I would have started school probably around 89.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> 88, 89.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was born 89.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Right. So I was probably starting school around then. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yep. Was there much. I suppose there was a lot of that sort of Catholic nationalism going on, Irish nationalism. But if that’s how you would describe it. Was there much conflict between the Catholics and the Protestants around that era?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> There was in a, but it was light hearted. So where I’m from, I never actually thought much about it. But we had our own church. They had their own church. But there was a small population of Protestants where I was from. They had their own schools, their own churches.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But they still lived in the same region.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They still lived in the same villages. We had a handful, like, I’m from a village of like 300 people and there was like a handful of families in that village that were Protestant. But they usually lived on the outskirts of the villages, nicer houses <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> and a little bit of land and stuff like that. But it was funny because even as kids we didn’t understand what the difference was between Catholics and Protestants. But you still snipe at each other, you know?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is that because it’s a cultural thing?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s a cultural thing, I think it’s no different than you snipe at the Travelers. The Travelers snipe at the settled people. You just always have conflict, I think, between people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s a tribal thing, though, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s a tribal thing, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think people almost need to feel like they belong to an in-group and they also need an enemy. Even if everyone is the same, they’ll find a way to make an enemy out of the people over the next hill.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But it was funny, like in that, where I was from, in the village I was from slagging matches were to go. Everybody loved to slag each other. It was like quick wit and just slagging off each other, whatever you could think of to make each other. But it was no real hard feelings involved in it. It was just people trying to be funny towards each other, taking the piss out of each other. It’s just an Irish thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And it was the same. The Protestant would just give you one extra thing that you could slag them over and the same in reverse. But they still came down and played soccer with us, like played football in the park. Do you know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-38082" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man-687x1024.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="745" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man-687x1024.jpg 687w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man-600x894.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man-768x1144.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/boys-playing-soccer-in-a-small-Irish-village-in-the-1980s-early-in-the-mist-with-black-man.jpg 784w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was like this weird divide that was there, but it wasn’t actually there. You didn’t go to the same schools, you didn’t go to the same church, but you played football together, you still hung out together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know, you still went trick or treating on Halloween together and stuff like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is this just because maybe your village was low population and it wasn’t particularly vicious, the division?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[09:06]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, I think in the Republic of Ireland there wasn’t much division anyway by the time we were growing up. It was like almost as if., &#8230; And the Northern Irish people would often say that they were abandoned by the Republican Irish people like that once we got our independence, it was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Whoa, we got our independence. Turn their back on them, kind of thing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That can be debated because there’s an awful lot of people in the Republic that still don’t accept that it’s not a united Ireland. So but there is still that little bit of jabbing that goes on there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. When did you last go back? Have you been back for a visit?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I used to go back once, basically every year. But when Covid happened I haven’t been back since. I got a dog. Well, you probably heard howling there a second ago. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I got a dog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s a big dog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, I got a dog when Covid happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It nails you down sometimes, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Sometimes you don’t like, think through everything about like, I love the dog. The dog got me back out and about, got me back training. Because you have to start walking the dog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when I start walking the dog, I had become a little bit of a bloody couch potato to be honest with you, I’ve been working the same job for 10 years and it was an office job and stuff like that. So then I got the dog. And it’s when the novelty wears off a dog, that’s when you find out who you are, I’ll tell you that now. You get a dog and like you’re., &#8230; Because, it’s the fairy tale again. You think of how nice to have a friend there, have it out there. And for the first three weeks it’s new, it’s fun! But then it’s a chore. You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, are you going to keep walking this dog every day and the novelty’s worn off? Like the new car novelty. Once the new car smell has worn off, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> worn off the dog, are you going to keep bringing it for a walk every day?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It becomes a time and money pit, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Time and money pit! And then it’s like, now you have to get through that period of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fuck doing it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like almost that period of regret.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you do, because you have to then, because it’s a responsibility, then you come out the other end loving the dog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve got a love hate relationship with dogs myself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think suburbia in particular can be a cruel place to have a dog.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. It can be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because they can smell and hear everything.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And they’re not typically raised or bred to be around that much constant stimulation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So it can be very stressful for them. They’re supposed to guard livestock. They’re supposed to have a lot of land to run around on. They’ve got a job to do and they’re proud of their job. They understand their job. Whereas in suburbia they’re sort of just suffering alongside you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I’ve noticed even with my two, there’s a couple of dogs down the way and I think they be left out or whatever. It’s like one of those things where people got dogs and then they just can ignore them. They basically probably get a bowl of food every day and they’re just ignored.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And sometimes you hear them whimpering and whinging and crying and giving out, and it affects my dogs! You can hear it, because they can hear these dogs suffering, like I’m telling you, I agree, I think that you’re right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s misery loves company man. Humans, they’re suffering here in suburbia in this unnatural environment where we develop cancers from all the radiation through the air and the Wi-Fi and so forth. And that’s why the dogs get cancers as well. Because it’s an unnatural environment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And we have to subject the poor beasts to the same suffering that we’re in. We can’t do it ourselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And that’s why in the West, we have dogs that have behavioural problems. It’s weird, right? Because if you go to places like Mexico or India where these dogs are just roaming the street.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What do you mean behavioural problems?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like dogs getting anxiety and shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Are they on medication?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, on medication! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Like people give their dogs medication in suburbia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think my dog’s got ADHD!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Mine get to go chase rabbits and stuff like that every day. So they seem pretty good. But a lot of people have their dogs on medication for anxiety.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve known cats that are on that kind of thing. I’ve known diabetic cats that have to have their insulin shots.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, right. And even there’s a guy, I don’t know if you ever seen Caesar Milan. The Dog Whisperer like on YouTube. He’s pretty bloody good to watch sometimes, like his videos and stuff like that. But he turns up and it’s always these Western dogs basically like suburban dogs that just have serious behavioural problems like their barking and just like biting other dogs, fighting other dogs, all kinds of carry on. And he always makes the comparison that if you see these street dogs in India that have like three legs and like their tails off and like these dogs have gone through the wars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t want to imagine what happens to dogs in India. The poor basterds!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[13:09]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But dogs on medication is interesting. Medication is a double edged sword though. Isn’t it? It can prolong life, but what quality of life is it prolonging at the end of the day?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And I’m alive now because of medication, I can tell you that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Really?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well think about it. Like you could possibly say the same for yourself. You had a bad infection.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, 100% actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. We would typically die of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I had my appendix out when I was a kid.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, there you go. Often without antibiotics, deep tissue infections or even just sinus infections. They were a common killer of men for a long time. Did I looked up recently the average life expectancy for the standard human in 1900 was 32! 32 years old was the average life expectancy* for you and me in 1900.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[This figure is misleading as it was due to a high death rate for new borns and young children, etc.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now it’s gone up to about 76 or something.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I didn’t have my first baby till 42.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, there you go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know when you put it like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And it makes sense because when you walk through., &#8230; Because I went to England last year, October last year. And when you walk through the graveyards on a lot of the stones there’s this guy’s dead 22, this guy’s dead 28. And you’re thinking, why so young? And it’s disease, infections, things that they didn’t have medicine for 100 years.</p>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Blair-Cottrell-Exploring-England-Tintagel-in-Cornwall-cemetry.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-38084" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Blair-Cottrell-Exploring-England-Tintagel-in-Cornwall-cemetry.jpg" alt="" width="890" height="811" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Blair-Cottrell-Exploring-England-Tintagel-in-Cornwall-cemetry.jpg 890w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Blair-Cottrell-Exploring-England-Tintagel-in-Cornwall-cemetry-600x547.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Blair-Cottrell-Exploring-England-Tintagel-in-Cornwall-cemetry-768x700.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 890px) 100vw, 890px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. But it became corrupt, didn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like I said, double edged sword.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s a double edged sword. So like they discover these things like penicillin and discover these things that save a lot of lives and yeah. Like fighting against disease and fight against this and fight against that. Fight against infection.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Pharmacology. Well, the Greek word for witchcraft is “<em>pharmakia</em>”. It’s pharma.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the Greeks understood witchcraft as a form of potion making or drug brewing, you might say. And just like in traditional European folklore, there’s good witches and bad witches. And so Medicine can be used for good or bad, but there’s a whole industry. I don’t know if we’ll get started on it, but the first time I considered the lucrative and ruthless exploits of pharmacology was 18 years old. I was working in the city Melbourne. Would have been roughly when you arrived in Ireland <span style="color: #008000;">[Australia]</span>, I reckon, 2008. And I saw on the ceiling or the roof of Southern Cross Station, huge banners! Huge, big banners saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Are you feeling down today? It could be depression. Call this number.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Trying to convince everyone they were depressed. And I thought. I didn’t think, maybe I’m depressed. Maybe that’s what everyone else was thinking. I was thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why are they putting so much effort into trying to make people feel like they’re depressed?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I looked into the number on the bottom and I did some research and I found out in certain states in America, you’re allowed to advertise prescription drugs like Prozac antidepressants, directly to the public.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Just on TV:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Prozac. Make your life better. Come and buy it from your local pharmacist!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or go get a prescription for it first, whatever. In Australia, you’re not allowed to do that. You’re not allowed to advertise the drug. So instead they advertise the symptoms.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s a way around it, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And then you call Beyond Blue, or you call your psychologist, and then you end up with a psychiatrist. You get the prescription, you’re on the drug.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Everybody’s on it! Everybody’s on it. Fucking crazy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Something like a third of all people are on some sort of prescription medication for their mood. It makes you realise the kind of things that humans have been through in history, but now the stress of your mortgage or something is too much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It doesn’t really make sense to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, it’s crazy, isn’t it? Yeah. It just goes to show what we’re not made for, though. We’re not made for that stress and trying to pay a bloody Bill or something. I think we’re made for war! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Some of us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yes. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s different castes of men.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> There is, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, have you heard of the caste system? The warrior, the merchant?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, a little bit. Tell me more.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, what do you think you belong to?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, warrior caste, I reckon, because if I look at my name, the Connolly name, it goes back a thousand years. Thousands of years, actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Where does it come from?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ireland. Well, the Celtics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What does it mean, Connolly?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It means “<em>fierce as a hound</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Ah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So it’s got to be war! And Ben did a lot of research recently. You know Ben, our man Ben?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ben did a lot of research recently. And it’s funny that his mother’s side of his family and my family name have mad connections back in the day.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like how was that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[17:06]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> His family were like farmer caste in Ireland and ours were warrior caste and apparently like we used to work together, like we defend their farms and shit, way back when. So the mother side of his family.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I want to talk to him more about. Because we just talked a little bit about over text like. What’s the name? I’m trying to remember it. Because his mother’s family name changed their name. It seems like they left and then came back like hundreds of years later to Ireland and then took back their Celtic name or whatever. So they left their Celtic name behind, went to France or somewhere like that. And then they came back hundreds of years later and took back their Celtic name. And then there’s this connection to the Connolly clans in Ireland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the Connolly clan in Ireland as well you can trace back to the what’s called the four tribes of Tara <span style="color: #008000;">[sp]</span> of the Hillitara <span style="color: #008000;">[sp]. <span style="color: #333333;">So it’s like four very prominent tribes way back when, &#8230; And then even before that.</span></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Prominent for what purpose?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like basically they ruled over Ireland. Like these four tribes of Tara</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Landowners?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Landowners and yeah, like hikings <span style="color: #008000;">[sp]</span> and stuff like that that’s what they were called. Like there’s this regional kings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve known a few Connolly’s.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And what that indicates is a lot of people survived from the Connolly line.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Meaning usually that indicates that there was money there or there was power there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Well, no, not when I was growing up, mind you! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But hey, things change, I guess.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What did your family when you were growing up have a stake in a certain enterprise? What were they doing for a job?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, not really. Not really. No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s easy to lose.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think that’s what happened as well. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They just lost themselves, I reckon over the years, you know, under English rule really is what happened. You become peasants, like.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, it’s the English’s fault!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If it wasn’t for the poms Graham here would be rich and famous! Those poms have robbed him of his fate, his future! <span style="color: #008000;">[Graham laughing]</span> Yeah. But my family comes from just dairy farmers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, right. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They had a fair bit of land, but they were just workers. They were cold, hard bastards!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And they disagreed with each other, and the family kind of split apart, and we all ended up with nothing. And that’s what happens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is what happens. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But families who stay together, let me tell you, mate, they make money!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And these days, families atomizing from each other. By atomizing, I mean every individual in the family going their separate ways, which tends to happen more and more in the modern day.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s kind of become what we do in the West, and it’s wrong. We grew up with this. I don’t know if you grew up with it here, but we grew up with it back home in Ireland, where you don’t talk about politics, you don’t talk about money, you don’t talk about religion. This was like the three things you’re not supposed to talk about because for an easy life, or a comfortable life, but it’s the three things you should be talking about! It’s the three things that rule your life! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Three things that matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s the three things that matter! You should be sitting around the dinner table discussing this stuff, educating your children and stuff. But that’s not what happened back then. It was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, don’t talk about that, because it’ll lead to conflict in the family. Don’t talk about that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. There was never the conflict along those lines in my family, though. It’s not like anyone ever disagreed over politics or religion. People just in the family gradually began to see each other less and less. I mean, we used to get together when I was a kid and have Christmas together. I used to see my aunties and uncles. We used to go and see my grandmother and grandfather.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Where did you grow up?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> In Southeast Melbourne.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So where you are now?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I’ve always lived in the same spot, and my family was kind of all around there. My family was originally from the bottom of Falls Creek at a town called Mount Beauty. A lot of dairy farming land around there. My uncle recently went back there and bought some property. He’s done quite well for himself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Beautiful up there, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It is nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Real nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s cold in the winter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It gets very cold!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But I don’t mind that. Yeah, I don’t mind it. I’m always running hot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what I’m saying is, as time has gone on, I think there’s a certain pressure or influence in society that has caused us all to split off into our own little individual cliques. And so we only spent time with our immediate family. And then it got even worse than that, where now even I don’t even really have that much time to speak to my sisters anymore because I’m so busy. They’re living their own lives. Everyone’s got their own rent or mortgage and car loans and Netflix subscriptions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas if we could all come together and reclaim a stake in a certain enterprise, even if it was just like soap making or carpet laying or something, you know what I mean? Then you can really start to like establish a bit more for our wealth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, you actually see, is it the Mormons or something over here? I’ve noticed that. So in my job we have a factory off the office that like manufactures steel products and stuff like that for jump farms and all that sort of thing. But a lot of welding and stuff goes on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Who has that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just the company I work for.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[21:42]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And it’s got like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need an air supply.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve noticed that all the companies that supply air are all Mormons. All of them! Every company!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you try to play one company off the other, for example, for quotes and stuff like that, they’re actually they’re in cahoots with each other. Like you notice it because they’ll send you an invoice and it actually looks the same as the invoice from the other company. All the companies are sewn up by the same families, like in, same extended family. It’s almost like the Amish.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s a shame. It comes down to it, the way I see it, you’re either working with your own family or you’re working for someone else’s.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If you’re not working with your own family, in a family owned factory, a family owned business, if you’re going out on your own, which is supposed to be something that’s almost encouraged and admired, isn’t it?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, he’s out of his own! Good on him! Good on him!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, you’re just working for someone else’s family interests.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So what’s your grandfather work at?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He was a dairy farmer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Over here?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Up in Mount Beauty.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Up in Mount Beauty, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But then he married my grandmother and they came down and bought some property in Pearcedale, which is a bit inland from Frankston but in the same general region. And he built his own greyhound training facility. So he built a big greyhound track at the front of his property. Had about 30 acres. He built a run, a bull ring and had about 100 kennels. And people would come from all over the country to have their greyhounds trained for racing at my grandfather’s facility. He welded all that shit together himself. An entire lure. And you know the lure that the fake rabbit runs on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He got this metal sheet work and built a track, built a big fence around it and somehow engineered the lure. He’s not qualified to do any of that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They were so good! Those men, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The sheds, the hundred kennels, the hundred steel kennels with steel Gates. My grandfather somehow welded all that together himself over a period of years. And made a business that made a lot of money. I remember I went to see him just before he sold the property. He recently sold it. And he told me he was making so much money he felt like Santa Claus. I didn’t really know what he meant by that. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> He wasn’t always that great with his words.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-38080" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs-687x1024.jpg" alt="" width="501" height="747" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs-687x1024.jpg 687w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs-600x894.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs-768x1144.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-farmer-welding-in-workshop-with-greyhound-dogs.jpg 784w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 501px) 100vw, 501px" /></a></p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> He was probably just able to be generous with it, I guess.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but he’s in comfortable retirement now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do you reckon those men, I know, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’re a different breed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They seem to have so much more time in their day and I don’t know, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s because they’re working on their own property.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. They don’t have their phone, they don’t have the bloody television, they don’t have the laptop. They don’t have any distractions really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Give me 20 acres and I won’t need any sort of social media. I won’t need anything. 20 acres with plenty of work to do and an idea in my head and I’ll get up 5 AM every morning, I’ll work on it till dark. And that’s what my grandfather did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And then they had community as well. So if they were busy, if they needed a tool that they didn’t have, didn’t have to have the money to go and buy that tool, they could borrow it from the neighbour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know, until they get going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And my old man, I remember my dad’s got three brothers and my dad and his brothers would go over there and give him a hand every now and then when he was still building it up. I remember going as a kid and helping dig holes, post holes that were going to be the fence around the greyhound track in the front paddock. And so yeah, it was all kind of a family made business but everyone’s kind of gone their separate ways, as I said. And I’m not really sure where the wealth’s going to end up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So your dad didn’t have any interest in the greyhounds?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Not necessarily. My dad was, &#8230; Greyhound training it’s a brutal business.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If a dog breaks a leg, it gets shot!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. I’ve got cousins that are into a back home in Ireland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Not to that sort of scale, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. So you saw how it happens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! They love it, though. Like, the people really get into it, don’t they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s a lot of money in it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And it’s like, we love our dogs. And then you add another aspect to your dog. Like you said before, now you got a useful dog, a dog that has a job to do, a dog that, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Still, I gotta say, if you loved dogs, you probably wouldn’t want to be in greyhound training!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, probably not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s cruel, but they all live in tight little kennels. They exist only to run and make money for their owners.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And as soon as they can’t do that anymore, they generally get shot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[25:41]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Have you noticed a lot of people now are adopting greyhounds?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve noticed that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know what?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think it’s a good thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is good. But you know what’s funny about it? Greyhounds in Victoria are not allowed off leash at all! Even in off leash parks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Why is that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think it’s because they have that drive to chase, rabbits, the lure, and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’ll run over a kid or something?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Maybe. I think it’s a bit unfair because they’re the most well trained, disciplined dogs that there is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They’ve got a great nature.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-38078" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning-687x1024.jpg" alt="" width="501" height="747" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning-687x1024.jpg 687w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning-600x894.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning-768x1144.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2-Greyound-dogs-on-misty-morning.jpg 784w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 501px) 100vw, 501px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. And they’re so well trained because it’s pretty cruel, like. And it’s strict to train. So you see people nowadays with a greyhound. If you see people walking a greyhound on a leash, the greyhound is perfect.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> A greyhound walks perfect on a leash. But it can be deceiving. Because the person that’s walking that greyhound might not be very experienced with dogs at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But they look like they are. But if something goes, like, if another dog runs up on them. It happened here. One of my dogs got out. And this is when I first had this thought. One of my dogs got, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> With a greyhound?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So, yeah, it was a woman walking past here with a greyhound.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And I think I was in the shower or something and the door wasn’t closed properly and the dog, but he’s a good dog, so he’s fine. So he ran over. He didn’t do anything. He just ran over and the woman starts screaming!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But that’s what makes the dog act radically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But the dog didn’t because it’s a greyhound!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Because the greyhound is so well trained. The greyhound just knew it was not, &#8230; Because as soon as I seen it, by the time I went out, my dog was just sitting because he just went:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh shit, what have I done?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he’s sitting, the greyhound is chill as and the woman is screaming to me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Get him away! Get him away! Get him away!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You notice women don’t understand dogs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, they don’t!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like they give dogs incessant constant commands. They stress and they scream at the dog and the poor beast doesn’t know what the hell to do. And usually if the dog isn’t well trained, fortunately that greyhound was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it was, the greyhound.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because the woman’s screaming and carrying on, the dog freaks out and ends up behaving worse than it otherwise would.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They can go into protective mode. The thing is that greyhound was just so chill, that he knew that my dog wasn’t aggressive either. Like so the greyhound had more sense than the woman.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For me, dogs are easy. They respect strength.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And to a dog, strength is self control, containment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You stay calm, you don’t give the dog a command unless it’s necessary. And you say as little as possible and if he doesn’t listen, you give him a foot in the ass. That’s really simple.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Me and Kate takes two dogs for a walk every morning down to Point Henry, right down to the beach to chase rabbits and stuff like that. But every morning the greyhound gets, he gets, &#8230; The Dane gets really excited! Really excited!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Your Dane?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, the Dane. And normally I don’t have time. Normally you just wait for five minutes or whatever till the excitement goes out of the dog. Then you go. But what we do is we put the dogs into the back of the van. We got the baby in the seat, one of us is in the back. We just don’t even look at the dog. So the dog’s like excited. Like you don’t even, you don’t say sit down. You don’t. You’re quiet, nothing. And you don’t start the car or else you will start it sometimes, but you don’t move it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we will just sit there, sit there, sit there. And after about 30 seconds, or a minute, the dog will do a yawn. And that’s where I’ve seen this, like on the dog training videos. That’s where something, a switch happens in the brain.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They get bored. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They does this big yawn and then we’ll drive off. And he’s calm.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s crazy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I have to remember that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You have to wait for the yawn.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And then they’re ready to go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And then they’re chill.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:08]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So what first got you into the, &#8230; Would you consider yourself, like, politically. We’ll talk about politics now a little bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, why not?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You ready for that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is that allowed?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That is allowed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> This is called the Offaly Offensive, after all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All right, well, we’ll keep it in the realm of offensive. What you would describe yourself as? Nationalists? National Socialist?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I would describe myself as a National Socialist, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. So to a lot of people, that’s very heavy. And what’s your understanding of National Socialism?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, to be honest with you, I’ll tell you how I came to it is that I suppose growing up, I’m the sort of person that always, I didn’t necessarily read too many books. I didn’t necessarily read into all these different ideologies or anything. I just always went with my gut, what I feel is right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Instinct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Instinct rather than, &#8230; And I always even when there was social pressure to say that this is okay or, later in life, it was the gender stuff. Now, that’s radical. But even earlier on, like, I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head, but anything that was sort of been put to me as the socially accepted thing, if it didn’t seem right to me, I would go against it. I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, I don’t accept that’s wrong! That’s completely wrong!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I didn’t know I was a National Socialist until sort of years later. So for years I just found that I was going more and more and more and more against the grain of society, against what has been sold to me as, this is right. It’s not right!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like, was there a triggering moment for you, that you remember?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, eventually I read Mein Kampf. But the reason I read Mein Kampf eventually was because I was being called Nazi so much online and I was defending myself so much. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I, like, we all probably went through it. Like, we’re gone through it. I thought I was real clever by going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How can I be a Nazi? I’m not a socialist!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, that was my stupid answer. Like, do you know what I mean? I’m not an Nazi. I’m not. This was back when I was denying being a Nazi. I’m still under:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m not a Nazi. Like, this is just what I believe.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then it happens so much because what I was doing, I spent an awful lot of years just bickering with people, wasting time online, bickering with people and trying to change people’s mind. Trying to red pill people, as they say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But still not calling myself a National Socialist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in hindsight, I always was a National Socialist. I think I was a National Socialist from birth basically. Like just born! Natural law. That’s what I believe in. Like, almost all our things I believe in is natural law, you know, strength, the right of conquest. Like, it all seems obvious to me. When I say “<em>the right of conquest</em>”. Have you ever heard of the right of conquest?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Of course. Yeah. Might is right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, kind of to an extent. Yeah. The right conquest. The best way I can understand the right of conquest is kind of like similar to how when big ships, like Cook’s fleet arrived in Australia. That would be, I think, the only equivalent nowadays to, &#8230; Because people don’t seem to be able to, &#8230; They like to look back and try to judge that through today’s eyes. And you can’t do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think the only way you can really judge that is if you can imagine a spaceship of space aliens that have arrived from bloody the other side of the galaxy or something, and have been traveling for 10,000 years and they are all of a sudden like Independence Day type shit, they just arrive through the fucking clouds.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What are they supposed to do, go:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, there’s already people here. We’ll just go!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Exactly! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> So they arrive all right. What if they’re so far advanced that we’re ants, basically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If they manage to get here, chances are they would be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, they’re so far advanced that we’re ants. So, like, it’d be like an ant trying to communicate with me not to walk on his nest, eh?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. That’s actually why Stephen. I think it was Stephen Hawking. I won’t attribute it to Stephen Hawking because I’m not really sure, but it was someone of that category of super smart individual. He was against sending radio signals out into space, &#8230;</p>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Some-friendly-advice-DO-NOT-let-IT-guys-from-India-service-your-time-machine.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-38092" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Some-friendly-advice-DO-NOT-let-IT-guys-from-India-service-your-time-machine.jpg" alt="" width="475" height="767" /></a></p>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> For that reason!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For that reason. Because he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Any potential alien civilisation that is advanced enough to receive, interpret and trace those signals back is going to do the same thing to Earth that every European colonist did to every other country.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s the mathematical thing to consider. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So like I always try to put myself into the mind of a person in that scenario. All right. And you’re here going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well let’s say we tried to communicate with them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We tried to go:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, yeah!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like basically like an ant waving at me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re here! We’re here! What the fuck are you doing?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like you know, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Magnifying glass.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, but maybe they might not even have any malice towards us, because I don’t have any malice towards the ant nest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, you don’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No malice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’ll stand on it because you’re bigger.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s just insignificant to me. It just doesn’t even matter, you know what I mean? So there we’re here going basically trying to get their attention. Yeah, but what if they’re so much more powerful they don’t even hear us. Like they’re not even, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s very naive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So now we have a choice, don’t we? We have a choice that we can either., &#8230; What are you gonna bloody roll over and die? Are you gonna just survive in this new reality?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you believe in aliens? Do you think they real?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[34:08]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, I do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What kind of aliens do you believe in?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> All kinds, I think because it’s just like, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you think they have influence over Earth now or?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, let’s see, that’s a real, &#8230; That’s an interesting question.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s something that I’ve thought about but I haven’t been able to draw a conclusion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I won’t be able to draw a conclusion, either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It feels like it would make sense if you consider that every different species of humanity is being pitted against each other.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> With a common enemy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And we as a species will actually tear each other apart and downgrade ourselves in the process.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s almost like “<em>zoo hypothesis</em>” they call it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well before an enemy, before an invader comes into a foreign territory, it’s in the invaders interests to weaken that territory. Military structure, government, as much as possible, have it as divided as possible so it’s ready to be conquered easily. And it almost feels like that’s what’s happening here on Earth, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, like South Park did a, I think it was South Park. Maybe it was one of these ones did a episode which basically like Earth was like a zoo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was just like a TV show. Like, so there’s aliens up there watching like the Truman Show. And it’s just like they just put all these different species, like, so lions are from a planet, tigers are from a planet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They just put them all and they, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just like took them all and just dumped them here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Every time there’s a major crisis, or a war, more unidentified flying objects are apparently reported. And that could be the camera crews, you know, &#8230; <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Literally. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Who knows? Like, honestly, it could be this whole scenario of like, we’re just ants, like, what do we know? But I don’t know. Like, there is the other flip of the kind in the fact that the size of the universe is almost like that. Like, let’s say we had a telescope that could look sort of anywhere within our own galaxy, never even mind all the other galaxies, because it’s just, even, that is just so vast and big to try and imagine it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But let’s say we could like zoom in on every, like zoom in properly and actually focus and see what’s going on there. Let’s say you look halfway to the other side of the galaxy. I forget what size the Milky Way is, but it’s bloody, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s probably unfathomable anyways.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, by the time you zoom in there, the light from that place could have taken a million years to travel here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All right, so you could see the past.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So what you’re seeing is a million years in the past. So even if there was, it’s just the timing is, it’s mind boggling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was about to say the same phrase, mind boggling! It’s too much for any one man to even consider or think about really. The universe!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is fun to think about though, but it’s mind boggling! It’s hard to know. So to think about only 20 or 30 years ago, like, we’d look up at an Andromeda, which is the next closest galaxy to us, and it was just another star in the sky. And then one day we were able, we had a telescope that was able to resolve that and realise, oh shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But even our own planet is a mystery. Have you heard about the inner Earth?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I have, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What do you think about that? Are you sold on it or not really?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I’m not sold on it. I’m definitely not sold on the inner Earth!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But on the Agatha, like?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Your man Bird, isn’t it? Is. Wasn’t that his name?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Admirable Bird.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Admiral Bird.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> This is the guy who flew over the North Pole and apparently went inside the Earth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That is interesting. It is interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s been some people who have, how do you say, debunked that they reckon that he didn’t actually write that in his diary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ah!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Someone said he wrote it in his diary, or someone said he told the story and then it became he wrote it in his diary. But he didn’t. But I’m not sure. Don’t quote me on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. No, I don’t think I buy that one, to be honest. I, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s still a lot going on about Earth that doesn’t necessarily make sense. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I’m a bit of a Simulation Theory advocate, to be honest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What do you mean by that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> We’re in a simulation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, the “<em>simulation</em>”. I thought you said “<em>assimilation</em>”. I thought you were against assimilation! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Definitely! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> No, I think there’s good possibility it’s a simulation, I think.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What makes you think that? And if the audience doesn’t know simulation theory, most people probably would know is the theory that we’re living in a computer simulation. That this is not real life, so to speak. It’s real to us as far as we understand what real is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. And it doesn’t even matter if it is a simulation because you’ve got to live by the rules of the simulation anyway. So you still got to go and live your life!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[38:29]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you think it’s possible to bend the rules like Neo in the Matrix?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think to an extent it probably is. And that’s where you know how people talk about manifestation and the laws of attraction and stuff like that. I think that’s the kind of thing. For example, the more you victimize yourself, the more of a victim you will be, sort of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, you make it a reality by thinking about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You make your reality by thinking about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Don’t you think that that could just be the power of the mind though? Like, naturally, for example, I’m gonna think all day about a bowl of nuts that I want to eat. Then on the way home from the shop, I’m probably going to pull in to buy some nuts and then when I get home, I’m going to pull a bowl out and then I’m going to put the nuts in the bowl, I’m going to eat them. That’s because I’ve thought about it all day. So it’s more that you’re motivating yourself to it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-38090" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2-687x1024.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="745" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2-687x1024.jpg 687w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2-600x894.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2-768x1144.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/delicious-bowl-of-nuts-being-held-out-by-a-young-very-attractive-blonde-woman-2.jpg 784w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You could that you’ve programmed it into the simulation. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right, right, right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But I don’t know. Yeah, look, it’s a, there’s an awful lot going on that we don’t know. I think that’s what wisdom is though, is knowing how little we actually know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s also being able to entertain the possibility of something without accepting it. And I think that’s an important thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A lot of people don’t seem to be able to do that, interestingly. Which I really like to wonder about things like, what if this is true and what if that is true?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And being able to, with a sober mind, just observe what’s in front of you and consider the possibilities without falling too much into belief.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. What do you think? Do you believe in aliens?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I just don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You don’t know either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For all I know, we could be the aliens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Definitely could be. Have you heard the theory that, what is it, is it? I don’t know which one it is. There’s so many theories out there. But one of the theories is that an alien species came down and they took basically the most advanced primate on the planet. So let’s say we were monkeys basically at the time. Well, or great apes, similar to chimpanzees, but a little bit more smarter than chimpanzees, higher IQ than chimpanzees. And they took us and then they just kick started our evolution by like 2 million years or something.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve heard it. And it does, it makes sense that we’re a somewhat bastardized species because we break down pretty early, we wear out, we probably should live longer. And there’s some evidence that we did used to live a lot longer and grow a lot taller. And so we could be a bastardized version of what we were once created to be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I do tend to lean towards creationism. Meaning it seems like something made us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For a specific purpose perhaps. Or maybe just because it could</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well I tend to lean towards creationism when it comes to the entire simulation, let’s say. But that’s kind of what this comes back to. Simulation Theory, comes back to for me as well. Is the whole thing created?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Genetically though, it doesn’t make sense that we’re from this planet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I agree. Why do you think that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, there’s multiple reasons. I’m driving down the street and the sun’s in my face and I can’t see! I need to put specially made glasses with polarisation lenses so I can see properly. And even then it’s kind of hard. And I’m thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“If we developed on this planet, shouldn’t I be able to stand the sun glare?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, I can’t! I cant’t even walk outside on this planet without specially designed protective footwear. Yeah, we need specially built shelters with temperature control so we don’t freeze to death or get too hot and die of heat stroke.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Hmm, abos manage without shoes, sunnies, clothes, etc.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And then you take my dogs. Yeah, I can bring them out to the outback. I can bring them up to the snow. I can bring them to, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Every species on this planet has thick hide, fur, scales, feathers, and we’ve just got this fragile pink skin. If we stay out too long in the elements, we die!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> We can’t deal with the cold, we can’t deal with the heat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But we evolved here and adapted to the environment? Doesn’t seem like we did! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Strange.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So where are we? I think we’re from somewhere further out from the sun, possibly a bit cooler and not as harsh. Possibly somewhere with less gravity too. A smaller planet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But then in a funny way, we can’t deal with the cold either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, that’s right. Oh, well, we, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So maybe it was similar, that was, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We can deal with it. We could deal with a bit colder. It depends on where you are on the planet. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Except if you take away your claws and your ability to heat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, it might be that this particular solar system and this sun is just kind of extreme.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it could be, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But also the gravity is, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[42:43]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> There were Red Dwarf suns that would give off less heat and stuff like that, but then the flare more, so they sterilise their systems. So but yeah, who knows, man?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I still believe obviously in a form of ethnic nationalism though, where despite the potential bastardisation of our species, I think we still do have to preserve and elevate ourselves the best of us. I think the greatest purpose in life, despite what you might believe, is to produce children that are smarter and healthier than you are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I agree with that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t really see any., &#8230; For us mortals as individuals, I don’t think there’s a greater purpose in life than that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, why do we do it with horses?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And that’s right. Hitler writes about that inMein Kampf. You might have read it. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ll put all this effort and finance into breeding the best racehorses, genetically speaking. But then we bastardize our own species because any form of genetic consideration would be inhuman.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It doesn’t make any sense!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Doesn’t make any sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You think would put more thought into breeding better humans rather than better racehorses. But we don’t do that. Because that’s offensive. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I don’t see why that’s offensive. I’ve never understood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I don’t, either. No. What do they call it? Eugenics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. I suppose it’s a form of eugenics to consider, but.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So why is that inherently evil though?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But people do it anyway without realizing it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Of course they do!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Women especially women are very selective about who they are going to breed with. Because they’re trying to breed up even if they don’t realise it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And they’ll sometimes make a decision based on <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But nowadays, do you think that’s changed a bit in that they’re breeding for like, the ability for men to have money can skew that. Can skew that genetic, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s confused the situation for women. It’s unusual that you’ll find a man that has a lot of money but is also playing the standard role of protector slash predator that they’re so interested in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so this is why it’s so often the case that women who settle down or marry very wealthy men who are goody, goody two shoes, do as they’re told. If that’s the way you want to see wealthy men. Not all wealthy men are like that. But let’s say for argument’s sake, more often than not a guy who’s making a lot of money is going to be, he’s gone to university. He’s thinking a lot about money. He’s thinking a lot about staying within the system as a reputable man. So often women will cheat on men like that, even if they’re married to them with criminals. They’ll go down the hill and have their fun and then go back to their husbands and they won’t talk about it. I think there’s a confusion there as a result of wealth, a great deal of wealth producing higher status men who otherwise wouldn’t have status without wealth.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Higher status. Yeah. They’re higher status for not genetic reasons.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, women are primarily, as far as I understand, more attracted to status than anything else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because even if you consider that the woman is going to go for the strong man or the warrior who’s going to be able to protect her and her family, the man of higher status who has influence over potentially a hundred fighting men is safer to be with for that reason. Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And women are primarily geared to live a safe life and they’re going to be safer with not only the warrior or the fighter, but the man who has influence over a small army.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right. So that’s why women like status. But they’re confused now, as I said, because of the money situation, providing status to men who otherwise wouldn’t have it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So back into there, a man earned status by beating other men in battle or, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Not just that, but by being respected by other men, followed and admired by other men. Not just for his mercantile skills and money making skills, because he was actually a respectable, dutiful, honourable man.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Who would give people the chance. But if they wronged him, he would be brutal in response. Right. And men respected him for that reason. They followed him and he’d build a hold fast. And suddenly you’ve got this lord and landowner who has a choice of spouses. And I think that’s the way it went for thousands of years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What? That’s actually an interesting point that you make about how there used to be repercussions for wronging another man, even just in a even just in a very slight way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, there’s dueling. Like if you didn’t like what someone said about you could challenge them to a duel. And if you wanted to stay or maintain your reputation in society, you had to accept the jewel and someone was going to die. So that actually kept men in check.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s a saying that civilised men are more rude to each other. I don’t know how the wording of the phrase goes exactly, but savages are more dignified in the way they talk to each other because they know they’re risking having their skulls split if they’re not polite!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[47:05]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Whereas civilised men, who are more pacifists, are going to be absolutely ruthless, stabbing each other in the back, stealing from each other and doing everything they can to crawl over the top of each other because they feel like there’s no physical consequence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Have you heard, I don’t know if it’s a theory, but basically that the whole point of police and the justice system is to take away your obligation to seek revenge.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, for example, if somebody was to wrong you by hurting your wife or your mother or something like that. Right. Normally back in the day, you would seek revenge, and then their family might seek revenge on you, and you get this tit for tat, tit for tat going on. And the whole point, the justice system is supposed to take that obligation from you. This was supposed to do. It’s supposed to take the obligation from you so that you can punish that person. And it stops there. Boom! That’s the idea behind it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, it has other obligations now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. But that obligation seems to be gone now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> More or less. Like I sought revenge in a relationship that went wrong when I was young, which landed me in jail, and the justice system intervened and sort of kind of showed me a better way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was good to me in that regard. But I gotta tell you, ever since I got involved in politics, I haven’t really seen much justice after that. I mean, you might know I headed up United Patriots Front.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And I started that up with a bunch of other guys in 2015.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And that was a new phenomenon at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That grew fast!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was huge!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Why do you think that grew so fast?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think it’s because social media at the time hadn’t really been used to promote a populist protest group that was nationalistic in essence, or patriotic in its foundations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also because I think I was relatable, I think the average Australian was able to resonate with me. And the amount of views we used to get on Facebook, I can see why certain elements of society, you know, government, police, were very nervous. Because I could hold my phone up to my face and film myself talking about a Muslim migrant who just shot someone in Parramatta <span style="color: #008000;">[Sydney suburb/subcity]</span> and this is why we need to stop Islamic immigration, for example. And that video would get millions of views! Millions of views! Amazing amount of reach! More reach than Channel 9, 7 and 10 would get on social media put together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You moved so fast that time that they almost couldn’t ban you quick enough! The likes of Facebook and that you survived long enough on Facebook to get these millions and millions of views.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, if you want to ask the question, like, what was that actually put a stop to the United Patriots Front? How was it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was actually where I was coming at next. Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, how did it? The rise of UPF, though, was crazy to me. Like, why do you think it was so successful? Like, why do you think, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was new. It was right place, right time. I was involved in it. I knew what I was doing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was always a bit of an ideologue, propagandist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Did you do anything before UPF?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How did you know what you were doing? I guess is the, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was a combination of intuition and reading about people. I’ve always been interested in people, since I was young. Spent a lot of time in my own head thinking about how people, what makes people tick and how to speak to them. And I learnt how to communicate, not necessarily complex, but multifaceted politics to people in a way they would understand it. Right. I knew that people needed to, &#8230; People can always be told the truth! They just need to be told in a way they can understand. It needs to be simplified for them. Right. It’s not necessarily because people are stupid. They’re just mentally lazy. So they need someone to do the explaining for them. They need someone to do the research for them and then lay it out on the table in a way that’s easy to understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do you think they also have to feel like it’s okay to accept the truth, that you’re representing them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Of course. But I think that’s why I was a good person to communicate the truth to people back in the days of UPF. Because I was a regular worker. I was carpenter. I was one of the people. I was working class. And there was really nothing about me that set me apart from the standard Aussie.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you were a carpenter?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I did an apprenticeship with my uncle when I started when I was 15. Finished when I was 19. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What sort of carpentry work did you do at the time?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All kinds. My uncle was a builder, residential builder. So I did house frames, lockups, fixes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[51:44]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Small extensions and new homes, all sorts of stuff. But because he was a builder, he really used to push us. We would do a bit of bricklaying, we do a bit of plastering. We’d do a lot of overtime, bit of unpaid overtime for character building! You would call it. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Because I was young when I started my apprenticeship, I used to ask my uncle:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How am I getting home tonight?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because I couldn’t drive. I was too young to legally drive home.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well you started when you’re 16 or something?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> 15 I started. 15, yeah. And he was going in the opposite direction so I’d ask him how I’m getting home. He’d say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can piss in the gutter and swim!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Graham laughs]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I used to throw my nail bag over my shoulder and do two hour walk home from the job site. Wouldn’t get home until, you know, 8 o’ clock at night sometimes, and I’d still go to the gym. My teenage years were very difficult but I’m grateful for it because it gave me perspective. It sort of worked the weakness out of me because I was a sook of a kid until I started work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Really?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. I was really over sensitive and I loved my mother a bit too much and used to spend a lot of time around mum. Dad was always at work and mum was very good to me. So I was probably over sensitive until I had that worked out of me from the age of 15.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What did your dad work at?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> My dad was a supervisor for a construction company in the city.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But he used to do, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Did he have a trade himself?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t think he did. But because he started with the company young and he stayed with the same company for over 40 years, he did quite well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Man. Being the son of a, &#8230; Because I see it nowadays, even the guys who work trade. Trade guys work six days a week, man! Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s a full-time job. It’s a lifestyle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It is a lifestyle. Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Your car becomes like a mobile business. You live out of it, you eat out of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Everything in the back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And I mean they probably didn’t even get RDOs back, &#8230; Like they get RDOs now which is like, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’re working in the city on a union job, you get an RDO*.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* RDO stands for ‘rostered day off’. It is a scheduled day off that employees earn by working extra hours over their standard work hours. They are often accumulated through extended shifts or by working additional hours over a set period, such as a fortnight, or a month. RDOs are part of flexible work arrangements that allow employees to take a day off in exchange for working additional hours over a certain period.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-carpenter-having-a-day-off-work-at-the-beach-beer-and-bikini-girl-burqua-women.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-38095" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Aussie-carpenter-having-a-day-off-work-at-the-beach-beer-and-bikini-girl-burqua-women.jpg" alt="" width="443" height="725" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And we’ll talk about unions a little bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I was going to get to that later as well. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But going back to UPF and to answer your question, the original question you asked, why I think it took off was just because it was new and right place, right time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Because you did just mentioned unions. Did you have troubles with the unions? Or did you seen how the unions operated, lead to UPF or lead to an awakening for you? What led you to want to start the UPF, or to want to do this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The unions didn’t have much to do with my ideology, really. And I wasn’t necessarily motivated so much by ideology as I was, by results. I wanted to create a popular counterculture against this whole mass immigration multicultural project.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And once the government or elements of government worked out that I knew what I was doing, and that I was against them, they took the necessary steps to shut the UPF down! And how they did that is interesting. Right. Have you heard of counterinsurgency?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You have? If the viewer doesn’t know what that is, it’s almost a method of warfare that was developed by US Army primarily, initially, to deal with insurgent groups, which were rebel Muslim groups in Iraq and Afghanistan during the War on Terror.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The primary purpose of counterinsurgency is to “<em>isolate and disrupt</em>”. Okay. Because the army figured out if they just killed these Muslim groups, members of people who were suspected of being members of rebel terror groups in Afghanistan, for example, if they just killed them, more members of the public would actually start joining the oppressed Muslims or the terrorists because they got angry at how the army was actually treating them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they realised they had to create a different strategy. And they created counterinsurgency. Isolate and disrupt! Right. And nothing the government does these days is really new. Because the people in government right now, they’re not very creative or thoughtful. They just basically repurpose solutions that have worked well on other problems through recent history. Like, if you think about Hollywood, no one’s coming up with new ideas these days. They’re just repurposing and recycling old ideas to try to get the same result they used to get.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the government’s doing the same thing with political dissidents, both individuals and groups in Australia. And it began with me. Okay. I was the first person in Australia to have my bank accounts disappear. I was the first person in Australia to be charged with what was essentially a thought crime for a Facebook post. I was in court for almost three years fighting a charge for “<em>intent to incite ridicule</em>” in a Facebook post.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Crazy, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was the first person to, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Could I go back a step?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How did you get red pilled? How did you get to this stage?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ll get to that. Let me finish, this is a good point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[56:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So my motivations, I’ll explain after this. But I was also the first person to be blacklisted from all social media. To this day, try to type my name into Facebook or Instagram. You’ll get a warning:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is a dangerous individual. Are you sure you want to continue?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you used to not get the option to continue a few years ago. They only added that recently. Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is all an example of repurposed counterinsurgency, which operates within the Australian government right now! This isn’t a conspiracy. They’re called Countering Violent Extremism, or CVE. And their job is to create this layer of plausible deniability for isolating and disrupting dissidents and critics of the Australian government and its policies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What do I mean by that? Well, this is what the American government did to deal with, or the American army, rather, the US Army, to deal with the terror groups overseas. They had to make it look like the people were turning against the terror groups and they had to make it look like it was happening organically, that they weren’t actually responsible for it. Because for any insurgent group. When I say “<em>isolate and disrupt</em>”, well, what does that, what does that mean for you guys?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>For example, you’re a member of a far-Right group, nationalist group in Australia. Your primary resource is not weapons, it’s not information, intelligence. Your primary resource is the people of Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Correct.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the job of Countering Violent Extremism is to cut you off from the people of Australia! To stop you communicating with them. Internet censorship! And to stop you raising money from them. Bank account closures! To isolate you from the people, because the people provide you with manpower, financial resources and other resources that are essential to you as a dissident group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there are elements in the Australian government right now designed to cut you off from that, but they can deny that they’re doing it. Social media is censoring you:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s the social media companies. It’s not us!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s the CVE department, Countering Violent Extremism department within the government that’s directing the social media companies to ban you guys. And me too, still. Yeah, but they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, it’s out of our hands. That’s a social media thing. Community guidelines.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Something like that. Bank accounts getting closed:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That’s a banking issue. Contact your bank. That’s not us.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What else was the other thing?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They just decide to close your account, you know?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, that’s right. The police are setting you up for charges. They’re raiding you on no evidence. They’re trying to put you in jail:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That’s a police matter. That’s not us.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They use some sort of like money laundering, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like, it makes it look like all of these independent agencies are turning against you on their own. They’re not! The Government’s directing them to do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s vicious corruption! It is what I’m saying in essence, and I’ll finish my point with this, because I know I’ve been talking about it for a while now, is., &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Take your time, keep going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s a government department which is repurposed counterinsurgency, which is treating critics of the government, both individuals and groups, especially organised groups, treating them as insurgents or terrorists! Right. So their job is to isolate and disrupt! And they’ll do anything to achieve their goals!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So I’m an insurgent? From the different perspective of this group?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You are. And you’re being targeted, myself as well, we’re being targeted by organised counterinsurgency. They’re called Countering Violent Extremism. But they’re just the counterinsurgency department in the government, which exists purely to isolate and disrupt dissidents.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Crazy, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Crazy! But it’s happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, I mean, there’s plenty of violent extremism on the Left. In fact, it’s almost the only place that there’s violent extremism. But they’re not countering that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s probably certain departments that supervise them or oversee what the Leftists are doing to try to make it look like it’s even, but it’s not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t think I’ve seen any Leftist groups experience the same sort of government intervention.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And Tim <span style="color: #008000;">[Lutze]</span> made this point. Not unless they are protesting the gun shows or the Gun Experts Expo or something like that. And then they go hard on them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe a little bit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s still not as hard as what we, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But to answer your question about what actually shut down the UPF. It’s what I just explained.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The counterinsurgency department within the Australian government called CVE, that was basically developed in response to me and the UPF.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was like such a grassroots movement, wasn’t it? Like, you didn’t really have structures in place. So what Tom is trying to build now is kind of, I would say, on the back of what lessons he may have learnt from what you did there with the UPF and stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Very much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, it just goes to show that you laid the foundation back then, that has led to almost everything we see today with us on the steps of Parliament dressed in black and stuff like that. Like, literally, you laid the foundation for it back then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Tom’s a very observant, smart guy. And he’s prophetic in a lot of ways.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But what he’s dealing with, what we’re all still dealing with, but especially him, is a different threshold of political policing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> One that I haven’t seen before.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I don’t think anything that happens with Tom is an accident from. Even from his own perspective. Like you say, he’s so intuitive. I don’t think anything’s as rash as it might seem sometimes. Everything seems well planned out to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> There’s maybe one or two rash things here and there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Here and there. But in general, the greater, he sees the big picture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He makes it work for him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:01:41]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> He does. Yeah, he does.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think he learnt a lot of lessons from you. And that’s why he’s started trying to create these structures. Like, you see a lot of the stuff we do nowadays with our nationals events. Like we basically have a calendar now. It’s almost like a whole new culture that he’s trying to build, but with structures in place, with leaders in place, with all these things, anti-fragility kind of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He’s more organised than I ever was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s because that was just a pop up, almost.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What he learnt from me was to just never give up and to keep your chin up no matter what! No matter what they throw at you, no matter what they do, no matter what they say, just keep moving forward.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You released a video recently where it was like. I would call it a tribute to Tom, basically, where you talked about Tom and who he is and how what you know about him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s only scratching the surface. There’s so much more.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Right. That’s because I mentioned it to you and you were like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fuck, I actually forgot loads of things and all!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I actually thought the video was perfect. It was perfect lens. It was perfect. And it just really hit the nail in the head about Tom, the kind of person that he is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you want, do you want to say anything that you think you missed in that video that you wish you had said?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, about Tom Sewell. Tom and I have spent years together as good mates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> He was the first person I met when I began speaking publicly, you know, giving my speeches about government corruption, the Leftists, all that kind of stuff. He filmed my first ever speech. I think it was in April of 2015.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Federation Square. And from then on, I never met anyone who was more of a soldier for nationalism. I mean, this guy just showed up to everything. And for the first couple of years, he didn’t say much. Funnily enough he says a lot now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But for the first couple of years, Tom was just watching. And I didn’t realise back then, but now that I think about it now, in hindsight, he was just a sponge. He was listening to everything I was saying, he was watching everything we were doing, and he was just absorbing all of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s almost like lurking. Have you heard there’s a phrase on, like the online Right-wing sphere. There was a phrase that was always like, so saying a new guy come into like a forum or something, and he talked too much and he’d say the wrong things and he’d talk shit, like, say the wrong things, whatever. And the phrase was “<em>lurk more faggot!</em>” And it became a meme. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> If you lurk, you learn.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, like, and then it became a meme, like, I was on one of these forums and I didn’t say anything for months, not a single thing. And next thing I said my first comment and I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, I haven’t talked much and blah, blah!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the first comment back to me was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s honour in lurk more faggot!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> so it was like literally complimenting me for having lurked. Like, that was the first time I got introduced to this word, this phrase, lurk more faggot! So Tom was basically lurk more faggot in real life! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> To an extent he was still dedicated. He was still a bit of an ideas man. I mean, we used to have long talks. We used to drive up to Sydney together to attend, and Canberra, to attend some of our protests that we hosted up there. And we had long chats. Thinking back to it, I think it was mostly me talking. Whereas these days it’s the opposite. If we’re going for a long drive now, he’s the one I’m learning from him. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> It’s so funny how he’s developed into a person who was once kind of a protege of mine, maybe, and now I’m the one seemingly learning from him. It’s like he’s evolved into this different sort of threshold of understanding. And yeah, I’m really proud that, &#8230; I’m just proud to know the guy. And it’s rough that he’s in jail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-38098" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Two-Aussies-driving-in-old-car-through-countryside-RH-steering.jpg 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You said to me, we talked a couple of weeks ago and you said to me they had like a little bit of guilt or something. You almost felt some guilt in that he’s in jail and that maybe if he’d never met me, or maybe that’s not the words you use, but it was, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I do think that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Something along those lines.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It might just be a cynical thought process.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Of course it is. And we all have it. It’s a natural. I think it’s a natural thing. I thought about it after, and I think it is a natural thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But also, he’s Tom Sewell!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:05:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think he would have gone for nationalism if we didn’t meet, like, whether we met or not, I think he would have ended up on that trajectory anyway, because he was already networking with people online, and that’s how he first met me. He just saw me posting on Facebook about going to this rally.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think there’s so many people in the world, though, that never become who they’re meant to be. And I don’t think he can say that about Tom. If you look at Tom as a whole and look at what he does and look at, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But he tried, all he wanted to do, and this was the point I was making with the video that you’re talking about, where I spoke a little bit about Tom’s history. All he’s ever wanted to do is help people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s all he’s tried to do! He was good at helping people in the army. He figured that out. And so he left the army to help his old man out. Not even because he wanted to, really. And then once his old man was all good, he wanted to become a fire-fighter. You know, they told him, no. Everything I said in the video was true. Then he ends up working with disadvantaged children, but they kick him out because he’s got the wrong views.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then he sets up a men’s club. He literally, with the payout he got. Because he got a discrimination payout after he was kicked out of whatever department he was working for when he was looking after kids and that. He got a 10 or $15,000 payout for discrimination. He spent it all on renting out a facility and filling it full of gym equipment and setting up a space to provide for other men who would experience similar discrimination. And that became Lads Society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And it got attacked! It was in the newspapers. I was a member of that for a while as well. And then out of that, he developed a National Socialist group because he saw that was his only choice as a result of all the harassment and targeted, you know, discrimination that he was still experiencing. And all he was doing, all he was trying to do from the start was help young guys out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The man had so much integrity that the path was almost inevitable. You keep pushing a man like that, he’s not going to bend on his morals or his honour or his integrity. He’s just not going to do it. So you keep pushing another step, another step, another step and he’s just going to keep reacting to what they’re doing to him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, that’s not always a good thing, but there is still honour in the personage of Tom Sewell and how he handles things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m just concerned, as you are too, I’m sure, about the threshold of political policing right now! I haven’t seen anything like it. I mean, people getting raided on no evidence for stuff they obviously haven’t done, set up on charges, just either put them in jail or to get them on bail conditions where they can’t protest. They can’t associate. The political policing in Australia right now is really hectic and, yeah, it’s concerning.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. I’m not really sure what to do about it, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> to be honest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I joked recently because Jacob <span style="color: #008000;">[Hersant]</span> gave an interview outside court. They actually refused to let us in, we were in supporting Tom in court. And then we went for lunch, broke for lunch and we went down to the local cafe, had some coffee and on the way back up they blocked us all, wouldn’t let us into the courtroom.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> To support them, like, it’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s been happening more and more now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because I don’t think they want it to be known that that much support is behind someone that they’re trying to set up and put in jail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They’re trying to isolate him and it’s despicable to me! But Jacob was giving an interview to the media and I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You should say., &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I didn’t think of it afterwards. I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The next time you’re giving an interview, you should say, ‘I can’t give a Roman salute, so you’re just going to have to imagine it.’”</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[laughing]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Would they do you for that, though? Just imagine me Roman saluting! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. You’re guilty of inciting, you know, offensive thoughts or images. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> somebody’s imagination. Yeah. You incited a Roman salute in somebody’s imagination!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s getting there though, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, mate. It’s at the point now where I don’t want to be too much of a black pill, so I won’t explore it too much. But the sensation I’m getting is that we’re moving into very difficult times, Very difficult times in Australia for dissidents, for nationalists, and we have to stick with each other and stick by each other, because each other is all we’re going to have.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you asked what red pilled me. What red pilled you was at Mein Kampff reading Mine Kampf?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> To be honest, the first, &#8230; Because I think red-pill is actually a series of red pills, similar to Hitler’s story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Like, there’s no single one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I think similar to the Hitler stuff. When you read Mein Kampf, I was blown away because I was like it’s such a similar journey, because, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Which translation did you read?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Dalton, I think.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-26043" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2-692x1024.jpg" alt="" width="501" height="741" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2-692x1024.jpg 692w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2-600x888.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rethinking-Mein-Kampf-COVER-Ver-2.jpg 715w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 501px) 100vw, 501px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/2016/02/29/rethinking-mein-kampf-by-thomas-dalton/" rel="next">Rethinking Mein Kampf — by Thomas Dalton</a>]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What was that? What’s his name again? Dalton. I can’t remember. Not Tom Dalton. I know which translation you mean. I haven’t read that one, though. So I did. Ralph Mannheim.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:10:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. No, I didn’t do Mannheim. But I think we might have got, do we have Mannheim? No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But 9/11 was my first one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> 9/11. What about it? Specifically, the conspiracies?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, I was studying.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Did you see Loose Change?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I was studying architecture at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And like, you do a little bit of engineering in that as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And you’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No way!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So from day one, I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What? No way!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Are you saying that jet fuel can’t melt steel Beams? Are you anti-semitic?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yes! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I could get arrested for that! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> it’s getting that bad, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, yeah, absolutely I am! Which am I? The first question or the second question? That’s the question here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you remember Loose Change documentary?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I don’t think I’ve seen Loose Change.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was one that kind of exposed a lot of the inconsistencies with the 9/11 story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right down to the alleged plane pilots and everything. Yeah. How they weren’t really experienced. I won’t get into all the details, but I remember someone dropped a Loose Change, second edition, the DVD. I think it was around, 2003 or 2004. They dropped it in my letterbox. So some conspiracy theorist was going around, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Burning DVDs and just handing them out to people. And I saw it in my letterbox and I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, I’ll give this a go.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Whoa!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Whoa! That was probably my first time where I was like. Because straight away I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s something wrong here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I started searching. That was my first entry into the alternative. And then I realised there’s all this information out there. So it was my first introduction to conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You would have been about, what, 17, 18?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I was a little bit older. Yeah, I probably was 18.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I was a kid.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think I was 19.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I think I was 11. I got up that morning and I wanted to watch my cartoons. And same thing was on every channel. It was just news. And these buildings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> When was it? What year was 2001, wasn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, sorry, yeah, 2001. Yeah. I would have been 11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-23934" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1024x724.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1024x724.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-600x424.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-768x543.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911-1536x1086.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/London-Forum-Alfred-Schaefer-cartoon-Jews-blowing-up-911.jpg 1546w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[See 911 links below in See Also]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, I was 18. So, yeah, I remember I was in London at the time when I happened. I was in university over in England.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And what were you studying in uni?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Architecture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right, that’s right. And so that was the first one that got you into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was the one that made me realise that there was this whole world of conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, that was my first introduction to it, but it was me just searching, going, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think it’s the same for a lot. It was the same for me, too. The first real conspiracy theory I got into was 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. It didn’t start because somebody introduced me to the conspiracy theory. It was the other way around. I just started searching, going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This can’t be right. Surely there’s people out there, like me who don’t think that the official story makes sense!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But what really got me on that was these engineering tutors, these engineers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Reporting the story, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> For years later, even, like for years, years later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It just wasn’t mathematically logical.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Some of the best engineers in the world. Like, I’d be talking to them and I bring it up in the conversation, and you could see them just get visibly uncomfortable, but just completely, what’s the word, cognitive dissonance?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s still developing. I think the dancing Israelis thing only came out a couple of years ago. That was a big meme. So people are still uncovering more and more facts about how ridiculous the original story was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The Building Seven things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know, the third building that just fell into its own footprint for no reason.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. And they just happened to move the gold out of it just in time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Just absolutely insanity! So that was my first thing. Right. But that didn’t lead me anywhere, really. That was it. It was just like a, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It opened the possibility in your mind, though, that there’s this whole other world of possibility.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. And I just didn’t end up stuck in that other world, if you know what I mean. I came back, like that’s what I was going to compare it to, Mein Kampf. So with Hitler, he did the same thing. Like he’d take a red pill or whatever and then after a while, he’d kind of gaslight himself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Swatiska-Table-with-Mein-Kampf-and-Sunset.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-22353" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Swatiska-Table-with-Mein-Kampf-and-Sunset.jpg" alt="" width="936" height="727" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Swatiska-Table-with-Mein-Kampf-and-Sunset.jpg 936w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Swatiska-Table-with-Mein-Kampf-and-Sunset-600x466.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Swatiska-Table-with-Mein-Kampf-and-Sunset-768x597.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 936px) 100vw, 936px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And go back to being in the army for a little while. And then something else happens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You relapse. Every time you relapse, you relapse for a smaller amount of time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. And something else happens then. And it’s the same bloody thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You can pause for a second.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:14:38]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I can’t read it. Oh, okay. That’s all right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is that how far in we are? Yeah. It’s all right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s all right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It seems to have gone pretty quick. How long did you go with Tim?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Three hours all together.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But like we stopped for coffee and stuff like that and had a little break and then we just went back and but we did three hours all up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the first one was an hour and 15, and the second part was like an hour and 45. But I hadn’t even decided if we’d break this into two parts. If we just chat away and just whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t know. How you feeling?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I don’t mind. Do you want a cup of coffee or anything?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Glass of water might be nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Just sparking water there as well, if you want.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Or just straight water. Be all right. As long as it’s not tap water. If you have milk. I’ll have milk.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, Milk there. So that was my red pill journey, though. That was the start of it, was a 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> To be honest, I don’t remember then what the next one was or what the next. You know, it was just a gradual. I think it was the wars, the likes of the war in Iraq. Just not being what it seems. Then it was definitely the wars in Syria, the wars in Libya, all these wars that were, &#8230; I used to watch, I ended up on this website and it was called truthseeker.com. Literally I used to just go, anytime anything was going on, like there was a war in Syria, I literally just go to Google, the truth about Syria. And then you’d get all this shit and you go, the truth about Libya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You won’t get that on Google now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Not anymore. No, not really. No. You got to know exactly where to go now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The original search engines in YouTube were awesome! That was kind of I remember I saw some of my first dramatized Hitler speeches on the original YouTube, back in the day. There was an editor called Norse Wolf. He used to put speeches by both Hitler and William Luther Pierce and even Mosley on occasion. He edited sort of a aesthetic kind of we have our edits these days, the boys make. These were some of the original edits and they were all out on YouTube. But all this stuff kind of disappeared around, 2016, I think. Maybe around, 2016, 2017, there was a big ban that came through. Maybe it was even before then. I just know that you used to be able to get as much Hitler as you wanted on YouTube. Pro Hitler content up until around, 2016, 2017. Then suddenly everything got banned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. The old Internet was brilliant! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> For me, it’s not, I think the most, the point of awakening, if you want to say, you want to call it that. I don’t see my life as this great, you know, dramatic thing where I’m super important and I was awakened! I don’t think of it that way. I just came across Mein Kampf and I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s Adolf Hitler’s book. Adolf Hitler wrote a book. No one told me that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They talked about Hitler a lot in history class in high school, but no one ever mentioned that he wrote his own book. Like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s weird! Why didn’t anyone tell me?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this is the evil genius that almost took over the world and gassed all those people. And he wanted to create the blonde haired, blue eyed master race!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Should be interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Interesting book! Like why isn’t everyone reading this? Like so couldn’t pass up the opportunity. When I saw it on a bookshelf in Fitzroy in northern part of, it’s like the lesbian capital of Melbourne. I was working on an apartment job out there when I was 18 for this building company. Started reading it and to be honest, at first I was disappointed. I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This isn’t the book of an evil genius murderer!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Tim actually said the same thing. He was underwhelmed, like.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was like, he was a soldier first. He was homeless. You know, he lost his mum early in life and he’s trying to be an artist, then he’s a soldier. His chapter about propaganda is good. And the communists. He knew what the communists were doing. Oh, yeah. His ideas about race. The German people need to have their own space, their own country. Makes sense for Germans. I’m thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Where’s the gas chambers? Where’s the evil takeover the world part? It’s not in here!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Doesn’t exist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I’m thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Not only is this not a crazy evil maniac, this makes a lot of sense!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No wonder to talk so much about him in school, but never asked me to read his book.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:18:53]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, well, they didn’t even tell me he had a book. You know what I mean? They told me that he constructed. Well, I remember in school because I’ve always been fascinated by engineering. I’m not much of an engineer, naturally, but I like really big structures and I really like to see how they put together. And as an architect and someone who studied it, you might share the passion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when I heard about the amount of people that got gassed in homicidal gas chambers, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, those must be some hectic facilities. The Germans are incredible! I thought, I’d love to see those!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just like to see the complexity and the amount of information like engineering that went into something like that. To gas that many people and burn them all before anyone could see the bodies. I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That must have taken ages to build and how did they do it?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they show me these little broken down shower cubicles with wooden doors and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this is where it happened.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I always thought to myself in school, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’ll have to look that up later, like on the Internet or something, because there must be more to it. This couldn’t have been where it happened.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I still believed it because it was in the history books and they were telling me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then as I looked more and more into it, I couldn’t find the facilities that I was envisioning in my mind that could actually be possible of achieving that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And I was just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This doesn’t make any sense!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Eventually you end up, I suppose you ended up consuming The David Irving stuff?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Not really. I just put two and two together. Because in Mein Kampf Hitler writes that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The great masses of the people will more easily be fooled by big lies than small ones, because big lies seem incomprehensible, that someone would put that much effort into a lie.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> My dog going mad there. <span style="color: #008000;">[dog barking]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. He’s obviously hearing some intrusions, trying to get some attention for some reason. But Hitler explains the nature of big lies or big deceptions for the purposes of propaganda or to serve the interests of a specific group. But he explains it well in Mein Kampf. He uses, he says that most people tell lies in small matters like, “<em>boss, I’m sick, I can’t come into work today</em>”. Yeah, right. They don’t put a shitload into it. They don’t write books about it. They don’t go into universities and lecture about it. They don’t build whole institutions that are profiting billions of dollars around the world from it. Most normal people don’t do that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when people see an institution, a whole industry that’s based on historical “<em>fact</em>”, well, they don’t suppose it would be a lie because there’s an entire-industry built around it! But what most people don’t realise, Hitler says, is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There are (((some people))) out there who do put that much effort into a lie and they do profit that much from it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It does work to their advantage to that extent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do you know what we don’t take into account, I think or we forget. And I certainly in Ireland and maybe it wasn’t as bad here, but my parents generation were naive! So they didn’t have the Internet. They would believe anything. They were superstitious. It’s not that long ago that people were very superstitious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You got to go easy on them though, because, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> 100%, I agree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We are just as naive. We just have access to more information.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s exactly right! Yeah. Because I just mean that like it’s not that long ago where the TV was invented, lights were invented. It’s not actually that long ago.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Historically it’s a blip on the screen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It blip on the screen, and people were superstitious even. Do you know what I mean? But like to believe all sorts of like don’t break the glass or the Mirror and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Don’t walk under a ladder.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, oh, they literally believe, like my mother was superstitious. You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’ve heard Irish people are very superstitious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Again, not as much anymore. Because of the access.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The world’s been revealed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! The world’s been revealed. But back that time, the world was a bigger place. Like, you didn’t often travel further than the closest town.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You felt like a tourist in the next town.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’d even go to the next town and people there would talk and act strange because everything’s so interconnected now. You see someone on TikTok, all the kids are watching someone on TikTok and then they all start acting and talking like that person on TikTok. And so all the kids from every suburb are dressing, acting the same.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Whereas back in the day, before the Internet, before social media, you go to the next suburb over, as I said, and everyone was kind of weird there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s funny you bring that up because, where I grew up in Ireland, every little town and village had their own culture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, so where I grew up, it was very, I said it even earlier, with soccer and football were the two, were the thing. They were big into sport, but everyone had to be funny. Everyone had to be able to take the piss out of each other. Like, that was kind of it just, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Australia’s like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Drabs and quick wit was our thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think we’re like that because of the Irish influence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> If you enter the town up the road, they’re all into motor bikes. Like, so many kids, like, died on motor bikes. Literally had that many people die on motor bikes because that was their culture. Their culture was motorbikes and hunting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:23:36]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You know what it was? It’ll be one or two people in that town who were really cool and charismatic and they did motorbikes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So everyone does motorbikes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Everyone got motorbikes. The culture of that whole town like there was another town, the culture was literally affairs! <span style="color: #008000;">[Blair bursts out laughing]</span> Like, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> they’re known for having affairs and stuff. Like, it just becomes the culture of the town. Like you said, there was such a degree of separation between these places.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s like almost every town back then had its idols.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> People that were idolised by everyone else in the town who influenced everyone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But now the idols exist on the screens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And so now everything’s more universal.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Which has made the world a much smaller place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It feels smaller.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It does feel smaller.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> As I said, I used to feel like more of a tourist even in the next town over. But now it’s like every suburb, every precinct almost feels like the same as the one I just came out of even when you go across the other side of the world. Went to England last year, already mentioned that earlier on. And it was different, but it wasn’t as different as I expected.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No. And you can get there even though it’s a long flight. Yeah, it’s a long flight to England. It’s a tough journey.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was tough, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But part of I think part of what makes things tough nowadays is everything’s rushed. So even though you’re flying there, it’s a rushed thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It was the first international flight I took and I took one of the longest ones you can.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I can’t sleep when I’m surrounded by strangers I don’t know, because my nervous system’s firing. How am I supposed to relax and go to sleep when I’m surrounded by Ahmed and Hajib and whoever else is around me on this, because I’m on an Arab flight as well. I think I went with Emirates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You fly through Dubai?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> We went through, was it Dubai?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Abu Dhabi.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Abu Dhabi! Yeah. God, what an experience that was! It smells like. What is it? It smells like spicy hot sand! Exactly how you’d imagine it smells. And there’s proper Muslims in Abu Dhabi airport. Like, they’re looking at you, like they’re going to cut your head off sort of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that might be presumptuous of me to say, but that’s what my instinct was telling me, the way they were looking at me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Infidel!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, right. But hey, I’m in an international airport. What do you expect, mate. And you know what I did when I got to Abu Dhabi airport, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m gonna get a kebab! I’m in an Arab airport, an Arab country. I’m probably gonna have the best kebab I’ve ever had! Right? They’ve got to do good kebabs here, at least.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I found a kebab store at the airport. What a piece of shit it was! The meat was dry and crap. The bread was crap. We do better kebabs here in Australia than they do in the Arab airports. Well, maybe there’s some Arab street food you can get once you actually get out into the country. But I gotta say, I was really disappointed by the kebabs at Abu Dhabi Airport.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The kebabs in England are probably better.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe. Hey, have you ever had., &#8230; You’ve had McDonald’s in England, all that sort of stuff. How do you rate the food in England compared to Australia? Much different? I think the dairy’s better. They got better Greener pastures there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, definitely have Greener pastures. Definitely! We got more water as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You know, the dairy’s noticeably better.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. We can hold a lot more head of cattle on the smaller acreage back in Ireland and England than here. I noticed that. In certain parts of Australia, I think, like at Gippsland, that’s pretty lush down there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, it depends on where you go. Australia is overall a much drier land.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s why, I guess when you get into like Gippsland, you do start to see cattle in the fields.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Because they got the pastures.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, that’s true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, a lot of Australia doesn’t have it. No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Had a Big Mac in England. They don’t peel their potatoes at KFC in England.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Don’t they?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> No, English don’t like peeling their potatoes. So you get the potato peel in the chips, which I thought was weird because we don’t have that in Australia. The Big Mac I had was awful! I couldn’t even, &#8230; And that’s saying something for me, not to finish a piece of food!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because I’ll eat anything! I’ve got no dietary limitations. I’ll eat anything. And the beef was so stale and dry in the Big Mac in England, I had to throw it away.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In Ireland, I used to prefer Burger King, which is your Hungry Jacks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I never tried it there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, Burger King is really good! It’s much better at home than it is here, I think.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You know, we did try, that chicken place. What’s that chicken place? It’s famous for some reason. Was it Popeyes?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In England?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:27:53]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Maybe it was Popeyes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Popeyes Chicken. Maybe it is. I don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Could be. I don’t know. I know England has a lot more different places than Ireland, even.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Did you spend much time in London?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> When I was there, I was in Wolverhampton, but I had relations in London, so I spent like a weekend or four days up in London. And that was when 9/11 happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I was only up there visiting relations for a few days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So no, I’ve been to London a few times, but haven’t spent much time there, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Wolverhampton, though, man! Fuck!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What about it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s like its own city, but it’s kind of like a suburb of Birmingham. It’s real close to Birmingham and it’s just rough! It is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> In what way?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just blacks!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh. Even back then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. It was so bad, when I went to uni there, me and like seven other people from Ireland went from college in Ireland and went over there and so we stayed in the halls around. Probably should have rented a house or something like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, we stayed in the what they call the “<em>halls of residence</em>”, like, so it was kind of fun and all that sort of thing. But we were on the ground floor and you’d have like, say, eight rooms, so you’d have a corridor. You can go in the main door and then you’d have one corridor this way, one corridor this one. You’d have like six or eight rooms in each one each side of the corridor. And you’d have a main kitchen that you share. You could not leave your room with the window open for five minutes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They climb in the window?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They’d climb in the window and be gone with your laptop. And they did not care if you came back while they were in the room.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So you have to fight him if you wanted it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They just stab you!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Oh.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So rough, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, like, you just wanted to go for a piss, close your window! Go for a piss, come back up, open your window.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Fucking shit man! The only good thing about the whole time there was Wolverhampton had got it into the Premier League at the time. They just got promoted the year that we went there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And so every weekend on match day, you could open your window and you could hear the atmosphere from the stadium. That was literally just around the corner. And that was kind of cool. I don’t know why I remember that, but that’s one of my best memories from Wolverhampton.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I noticed a fair more black people in London than there are pretty much anywhere in Australia that I know of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Birmingham, Wolverhampton, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s all there is. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I don’t think I ever went there. I went to Kennington. We stayed a couple of nights in Kennington, I think. But black people smoking marijuana in public, that was pretty common.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Around that region. And just very loud, obnoxious, you know, screaming at bus drivers and kicking doors because they weren’t opening quick enough! Just stuff like they don’t just, &#8230; I don’t know how to summarize it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All I can say is the black people in England don’t seem to appreciate being in England very much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No. They’re the same everywhere, I think.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Is it in their nature to appreciate anything or do they just take advantage?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I don’t think it is. No, no, it’s a sense of entitlement, ungratefulness.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What’s the main ethnic group you notice in Australia, and that’s not White? You know is in Australia that’s not White, the main ethnic group out here? Out here in your way anyway, where you live?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So here’s still pretty good. Yeah, just here now. When I first got to Geelong, all of Geelong was still White.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know, you head down to the waterfront, White people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I know some Indians down there today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, that’s what I was about to say.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Mostly Indians.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Indians and Muslims now down there.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yep, yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, you get on there now and like, they’re playing their own music. So it’s like being in a foreign country. You know, you got all the barbecues down by the waterfront. It used to be always just White people down there.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> They love the waterfront.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, they love the waterfront. Now you go down on a nice, as soon as it’s a warm day, just flock to there. Take over all the barbecues, have their own music. And it’s the ding, ding, ding, ding! All this fucking shit music!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You think if you’re in a country that wasn’t, you’re in a country that was built by another ethnic group and you were a guest, you’d think you wouldn’t be so loud and obnoxious. I mean, that’s how we are when we go to other countries, isn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> 100%.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I’ve travelled a lot and you’ve got a lot of respect when you’re in somebody else’s country, like Japan or something. You look around. These are not your buildings. The buildings do not invoke your blood memory, for example. Like, you know that you’re a visitor in these places. I can’t understand, like, even here, even though, like, I kind of mentioned it earlier, too, we were talking that all the towns, villages, the city, you go into the city, all the old buildings, they’re all Anglo-Celtic buildings. You know what I mean? It’s you know, they were built by your people. Even though I’m from Ireland, I come here. I walk the streets here. These buildings are built by my people, by the same blood that runs through my veins.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Feel the same way.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, and feel the same. And I don’t understand how they can do it. Like, I come here and I’ll never., &#8230; Like, I’m always going to consider myself Irish because I am Irish. I can’t just come here and then suddenly be Australian. Like, I came here when I was 23. I grew up in Ireland. I talked to Tim about this a little bit. I grew up in Ireland. I went to school in Ireland. Like, I said this to Tim, like, my daughter can be Australian. She’ll grow up here. She’s of the same blood as the founding stock. Her mother is Australian and I’m of the same blood as the founding stock. Even though I wasn’t born here. But my child will be. But I would never say I’m Australian. I’ve been here 15 years now, but I was here like 12 years before I even got the citizenship, before I even applied for the citizenship.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So you are a citizen?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I was gonna say, well, you could just say I’m an Australian citizen, but I’m Irish.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! Yeah, exactly! Which I am. That’s really accurate way of saying it. Right. But these Indians and stuff come over and they’re calling themselves Australian!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> You’d have to be really ashamed of where you come from.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And they are! That’s what it is!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I think it’s also a sub 80 IQ affliction, meaning people who are a little bit less intelligent, they don’t have the humility to acknowledge that they may come from a lesser developed culture. And so they cope instead by demanding equality amongst people who are clearly better than them, rather than acknowledging that those people are better and just appreciating their position as a guest in that country. Instead, it’s a cope, a coping mechanism.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s crazy!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Because they actually think they’re better than you a lot of the time.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They do the same thing no matter where to go, though, then they’re Irish, they go to Ireland and they’re Irish!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I almost think it must be an in-joke amongst themselves. They must go home afterwards and laugh at the fact that other Irishmen or Australians or Englishmen actually don’t say anything:</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I think you’re right a minute ago. I don’t think they have the capacity for it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The smarter ones would.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But the majority of them, I do think it’s a sub 80 IQ. Because you need to be cleverer than average at least to have the humility to acknowledge when someone else is actually better than you and not hate them for it. Right. So there’s two ways you can look at someone.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Jeez, the dogs are going off, after me. <span style="color: #008000;">[dogs making a noise]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. There’s two different ways. There’s the common way of responding or reacting to someone who’s better than you in a certain field. And the common way is to develop copes to try to explain it away:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, he had a better upbringing. He had help from other people. There’s reasons why he’s better than me that make it not fair on me somehow and down with him. Poor me!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> The other way, the less common way is to learn as much as you can from the person who’s doing better than you in a certain field. So:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, this guy’s doing really well. His strategy, his methods, they must work. What can I learn from this guy? I need to talk to this guy!”</span></h3>
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<p>Especially if it’s in a field that you’re interested in developing in yourself.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> So like the most people, most lower IQ people and most people are of lower IQ, they’ll just resent someone for being better. And I suppose that’s what most Indians do when they come to Australia. But cleverer folks will learn as much as they can.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! Yeah. Do you want to take a five minute?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So I can feed these bloody dogs.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I thought you fed them already?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I did, but I only give them a little bit. They’re big dogs, the dog will eat three kilos a day.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. Really? The big one? That’s expensive dog!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> We can just leave that going and I’ll just cut it out when everything’s going. Do you want a coffee or anything like that?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> One more might help. Graham, if you can get it working. I might just stretch my legs.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That brings us to the end of part one. A huge thanks again to Blair for making the trip. Part one has covered a lot of ground, but this episode is not finished yet. In part two, we dive deeper into the real world cost of Right-wing activism. If you value these discussions, please like this video, share and subscribe to the awfully offensive. Thank you all for watching. Your support is what makes this uncensored content worthwhile. We’ll see you soon for part two.</p>
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<p>greenyfromoz97<br />
1 day ago<br />
Upload this on YouTube brother! These is nothing about this against community standards at all! This it the best best pod cast I’ve listened to in years<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
Admin<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks brother. Yea we&#8217;re going to set up a YouTube and see how it goes. Thanks for watching and Thanks for the vote of confidence.<br />
1 likes</p>
<p>greenyfromoz97<br />
1 day ago<br />
Loving it, send my love back mate! Awesome podcast !!<br />
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<p>JohlForbes<br />
4 days ago<br />
Very entertaining and nostalgic interview. Like two mates having a chat, good vibes, enjoyed it.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>Girnigoe<br />
5 days ago<br />
Outstanding! An American, here. You men in Australia are at the &#8220;cutting edge&#8221; of White Nationalism, National Socialism, and activism in general, though a new generation has also risen / is rising in America, it appears. Quite a change from back 20-25 years ago, and here&#8217;s to that! Maybe it&#8217;s that Australia is smaller, with mostly a more homogenous population, thus less distraction and gate-keeping fake conned-servatives about. Whatever the case, never slacking and don&#8217;t give up the ship! More folks than you might imagine have their eyes upon you world-wide. Hail victory and down with ZOG!<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
Admin<br />
5 days ago<br />
Thanks for watching brother. Our fight is worldwide. The White man must rise up everywhere. And we will.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>TTFOLEY1914<br />
5 days ago<br />
Nandos chicken I reckon<br />
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<p>Sieger88<br />
Supporter<br />
5 days ago<br />
A lot of the things Blair complains about is simply due to the fact that our race developed in Northern Europe, we weren’t really meant to live anywhere else.<br />
1 like</p>
<p>akdjfhgpjksdnkjnsdfg<br />
6 days ago<br />
I didn&#8217;t think you guys would eat a Big Mac. How about the Finkelstein interview about the Big Macs: https://archive.org/details/InterviewWithRabbiAbrahamFinkelstein/Interview+with+rabbi+Abraham+Finkelstein.mp4<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
Admin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Yea i don&#8217;t eat Maccas these days. I doubt Blair would very often either.<br />
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<p>whatthehehe<br />
6 days ago<br />
PATRIOTS!<br />
3 likes</p>
<p>WhiteBitchTripleSix<br />
Supporter+<br />
6 days ago<br />
&#8220;Are you anti-semetic?&#8221; YES <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
3 likes</p>
<p>GigaChud7<br />
6 days ago<br />
You should do a series on the sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland, I’d love to hear the perspective from an Irishman who has our beliefs.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
6 days ago<br />
I agree. Could invite Justin Barrett on for it.<br />
3 likes</p>
<p>Jenny3819<br />
Supporter<br />
6 days ago<br />
Great conversation.<br />
2 likes</p>
<p>SpeedMaker<br />
6 days ago<br />
South Park did an episode of earth being a tv show. Aliens the “Jewzians” controlled all the media in the galaxy. They we’re going to cancel earth. The boys used sexual blackmail to save the planet. I’m not kidding. The episode is called “canceled and is almost 20 yrs old.<br />
2 likes</p>
<p>Chucktt<br />
6 days ago<br />
I didn&#8217;t know Blair liked Metallica. Would he like the Load era?<br />
1 like</p>
<p>birdhouse456<br />
6 days ago<br />
Blair&#8217;s grandfather reminds me if my uncle. Farmers are used to doing everything by themselves. If they waited for help it would never get done, and they&#8217;d be broke.<br />
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<p>Seanybruv<br />
6 days ago<br />
54:34 &#8211; 59:45 this was such a good point<br />
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<p>Seanybruv<br />
6 days ago<br />
41:30 no animal can directly look at the sun without serious eye damage, there&#8217;s no evolutionary adaptive advantage in looking at the sun, the benefit from the sun is light in general, for instance you don&#8217;t need to stare into a ceiling light to get the benefit of the light it gives, any animal that tried to stare at the sun would go blind and not pass on their genes. It is the driving on straight roads that is the unnatural thing in that scenario you gave, not the inability to look at the sun. Our early Human ancestors became hairless in tropical climates as a way to regulate body temperature through sweat while endurance hunting and travelling. Most humans have a lot of melanin to protect skin from UV damage as they stayed near the equator. By the time humans or our early human ancestors got to Europe they had already lost their hair, but eventually lost the melanin producing genes because that far north and in a cold climate the UV exposure is a lot less, so we needed light skin to get get adequate vitamin D. It was too fast of a shift in environment to just start growing fur again, so we needed to be innovative to survive in the cold, only those who were smart enough to survive would pass on their genes, part of the reason why Europeans are the most intelligent and innovative species.<br />
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<p>dailydose_meat<br />
6 days ago<br />
Great show! Blair has to be a regular on the show!<br />
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birdhouse456<br />
6 days ago<br />
he always muses on the most interesting topics.<br />
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<p>MonThirteen<br />
6 days ago<br />
Here I was thinking I was going to learn things I didn’t know about Blair but it’s awesome I got to learn alot about you too Mr Connolly. Both very interesting men. Love the fireside chats.<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
Admin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Thank you I appreciate that. You can tell Blair is a kind and humble man and he&#8217;s naturally interested in other people. He was interviewing me as much as I was him and it made for a fun chin wag by the fire.<br />
5 likes</p>
<p>heman1488<br />
Supporter<br />
6 days ago<br />
Awesome podcast! Blair is an Australian icon and patriot.<br />
8 likes</p>
<p>Angelalee0<br />
6 days ago<br />
UPF grew so fast because of you Blair. Your passion and charisma was something unlike anything I&#8217;ve seen. Your speeches and your presence made people come together. Those years were some of the best.<br />
8 likes</p>
<p>Dimma1313<br />
Supporter<br />
6 days ago<br />
Great show. Tag teaming questions….love the coexistence between Irish Catholics and Protestants in the Republic.<br />
5 likes</p>
<p>mike33t<br />
6 days ago<br />
Soo good<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>esolily<br />
6 days ago<br />
Hail the Connolly clan <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2618.png" alt="☘" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>TTFOLEY1914<br />
1 week ago<br />
Wow ,loved this.amazing chat best I&#8217;ve enjoyed in years.offaly was gd with the zoo theory stuff too.interesting shit<br />
11 likes</p>
<p>Laker2103<br />
1 week ago<br />
Great video lads<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; The Offaly Offensive &#160; Tim Lutze &#160; Part 1 &#160; Sat, Sep 20, 2025 &#160; [In this first livestream episode Graham Connolly has a lively talk with Aussie nationalist and State Leader of White Australia Tim Lutze about his &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/24/the-offaly-offensive-tim-lutze-part-1-sep-20-2025-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Offaly Offensive</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tim Lutze</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Part 1</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this first livestream episode Graham Connolly has a lively talk with Aussie nationalist and State Leader of White Australia Tim Lutze about his background, love of boxing, leading up to his current involvement in political activism.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Tim Lutze: Part 1<br />
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​Join us for a deep dive into the two worlds of Tim Lutze. In this inaugural episode of The Offaly Offensive, Graham Connolly speaks with the Victorian State Leader of White Australia about more than just politics. We explore Tim&#8217;s life as a boxing coach and family man, the pivotal moments that led to his political activism, and the truth behind events like the March for Australia.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Intro music]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[00:29]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Is this mic all right Katie? Not covering my face?</p>
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<p><strong>Katie:</strong> No, no, your face is fine.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do I look fat?</p>
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<p><strong>Katie:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, for God’s sake!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, but then it doesn’t want to go over that way. It keeps coming back. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> This is exactly how I thought it would be.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just keeps going back.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> These are clamps <span style="color: #008000;">[mic stands].</span></p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> See, now when I turn here, it’s not. As the sound is not as, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Katie:</strong> Yeah, exactly! More towards you, but, like, not right in front of you.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I need to be able.</p>
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<p><strong>Katie:</strong> You have way more room to go back more.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> As soon as I do it. And you said, &#8230; Okay. There. It’s fine.</p>
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<p>All right, all right. These producers, man! She’s just a producer, rapper. Like Kanye!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I should get royalties for making this happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Offered money and then didn’t give me anything.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Got it wrong. Got milk.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, you got milk.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Arrow Kit Kats.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> All right, fine. Yeah, the Arrow Kit was good. The Arrow Kit Kat was good.</p>
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<p>All right, well, I’m here on episode one of the Offally Offensive with a very special guest.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Thank you. Welcome. Thanks for having me.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s Tim Lutze! How are you, Tim?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, good, good! You?</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, good. So tell me. Tell me every single thing about you. Every single thing since the time you were infant. No, no!</p>
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<p>Let’s start with your teenage years. What got you into. You’re a boxing coach, yeah?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. I started boxing when I was 14. I’ve always been interested in boxing. I wanted to start much younger, but I was getting in a lot of trouble at school, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Fights?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, fighting. And we had a family friend that was a professional boxer. And at about eight years old, he was trying to convince my mum to take me to boxing.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know that energy.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, to get that energy and discipline, but she wouldn’t have it. And I was kicked out of a few schools and suspended from a few different schools.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What were you kicked out of school for?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, fighting. And I was always a bit disruptive in class and fighting. I just had a lot of energy. Watched too much Dragon Ball Z maybe, but, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How old are you now?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I’m 34.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> 34?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Middle aged.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So what age were you when you got kicked out of your first school?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, that was grade four. Grade four. Me and a friend who I’m still in contact with graham Connolly: In St. Albans?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. We left together. Went to the same different school together and ran amok there. Got like, suspended in, like our second week. And this just continued into high school. By the time I reached high school, my mum had basically given up and just conceded to our family friend to let me do boxing. And I went down to Footscray Youth Club when I was 14 years old and I walked in and started training, and I wasn’t a big fan of the skipping and all the running and boxer <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear].</span></p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You wanted to spar.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I just wanted to punch people!</p>
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<p>And so I was watching the sparring and there was two really light guys in there, maybe 60 kilos. And I was pretty big at 14. I was trying to play rugby as well. And they were like jabbing and running away from each other not to the usual way that I was used to fighting. So I walked up to the coach and asked him if I could get in and he laughed at me and called me an idiot! And I just kept asking him every day for about two weeks and finally said:</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I put on set of gloves and mouthguard. I jumped in the ring with a guy that was probably 15 kilos lighter than me. And just started swinging, just throwing from the hip. Missed everything! He was, went for about 30 seconds. He jabbed him about three times. My nose just started pouring blood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as soon as I could walk him towards the ropes, I grabbed onto him and we ended up on the floor and everyone jumped in, and I was kicked out of the gym for a week. But the experience really did humble me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Good gentlemanly conduct!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Basically he pulled me out of the ring. He was very old. He was kind of like Mickey from Rocky, you know, ended up being like a real father figure for me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I was from single parent family, you know, low income. And he guided me through my teen years and taught me a lot of discipline.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the first discipline was that day, where he pulled me out of the ring and said I’m not welcome at the gym for a week and that if I continued to behave like that, he would have me black banned from every gym in Victoria, which he was the Olympic coach at the time and the State coach.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So he could.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> He could definitely do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[05:30]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What changed then? Did you change? Did anything change in you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I wouldn’t say that day changed. I was humbled from a little guy just jabbing me and I had no answer for it. But I still was a little bit cocky.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And you were like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“In the street, I’d kill him!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, that was the attitude. But like, the guy, he was from Sunshine and he was older, but like that’s kind of like a very low class sort of area as well. And he was from around the way, so to speak. And I’ve ended up becoming really good friends with him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I came back a week later and he pulled me into the kitchen, the coach, that is, and he said that he’ll tell me when I’m ready to spar and not to ask him or the same thing I’d be kicked out. And to train and when he thinks I’m ready, he’ll let me know. So I trained every day for like six months. I ran in the mornings. I watched all five Rockies, you know, watched all the boxing. You know, like back then was like Mayweather, Dela Hoya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And that would have been impressive to a coach that time, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, not really, no! I think boxing just attracts those types of people. But I don’t know why, I just fell in love with boxing and the whole culture of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I, after six months, I jump in the ring with the same guy and he was only training once or twice a week and I trained every day and I’d done all that and run and diet and did everything I could. So we started sparring and within a minute and a half my nose was bleeding and by the end of the round of, my shirt was just covered in blood. I didn’t land a punch. He wasn’t even going hard. He was just picking me off, just jabbing. And I kept my temper and I didn’t, &#8230; And I got out of the ring and I was just fighting tears, just had all that water under my eyes! And I was just, the coach said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can’t, that’s it, you’re done!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because there was blood everywhere and I was a bit argumentative. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t argue, you did good, you kept your cool. I’m happy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he just asked me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why you’re so upset?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I just trained every day for six months and like, I didn’t even land a punch.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he just said, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That’s not what it’s about.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, he goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He’s not better than you or more skilled. He’s more experienced.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So I was ready to quit that day.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You understand all that now?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Now I do, yeah. And I was ready to quit that day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But you’re not a quitter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, no, I’m not a quitter. And fighting, I’ve always been attracted to violence and to fighting, for better or worse. But obviously, what’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The most natural thing in the world!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> From the dawn of time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Obviously we don’t have a culture where it’s like, okay to fight and we don’t really promote wars and we don’t really promote warriors. You know, the closest thing to promoting violence now is like, and what was back then would be like the Sopranos and the Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad, where you’re always rooting for the bad guy and the toughest guy gets respect!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So obviously all the warrior inclined youth are going to go towards those sort of things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, and that’s exactly what happened in my case when I was young. Without boxing, a lot more people, or any combat sport, and we’re talking like 2004. So UFC wasn’t really a thing in Australia back then, but boxing was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just think boxing has saved so many kids from just becoming violent criminals.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I know it gets a bad rap sometimes, but, like, that’s the way I see it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, I did it. I trained every day and I sparred every day. And because my coach was the Victorian coach, we have the State team there every month for a while. And I got to spar with some of the guys, some of the Olympians, you know, one of my friends back then went to Beijing and Olympics and you spar, did some rounds with him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And can you remember when you had your first moment where you actually enjoyed sparring, where you landed a punch, where you landed it, where you had some success?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, Before I get to there, I’ll just finish what I was saying, was that I sparred every day and I was sparring very experienced fighters the whole time. And everyone in the gym had fights back then, and I was the youngest. I was 14. I was the kid in the gym. And 12 months goes by and I hadn’t won a single round sparring. So my coach comes to me and he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m gonna put you in for a fight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like, scared! And I’ve never been scared to fight, you know, And I was, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like, this wasn’t a fight in the street where you just milled.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[10:24]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No! You don’t have to try to fight in the street. You don’t train for it. Like it just happens. And it’s adrenaline and it’s fun and you know, like, if you’ve got a good crew, you sometimes you don’t have to worry about going one on one and you can win a fight, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> you know, in dishonourable ways.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is something that I did every day for 12 months. This is something that I eat, breathed, slept I practiced discipline for. And the thought of doing all that training and losing just was, filled me with anxiety. And the fact that I was sparring all these fighters that had 20 fights and 30 fights and then now I’m fighting like somebody. And I just didn’t feel like I’d ever really had a good spot, like won a spar. And my coach sort of snapped at me because he’s an old, grumpy dude. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ve been sparring boys that have been fighting!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I know you’re ready! You trust me. I’m a coach. I’ve been coaching for 60 years!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or I think it’s about 50 at that time. But I was with <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> for a very long time, I think around, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So from his perspective, you were going to go up against somebody of a similar skill level? Been training for years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. That’s what he explained to me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was very nervous and I had my first fight and I won it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How did fight go?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It was messy. I was hitting the pads, warming up, and everyone was saying how crisp and good I looked and the punches were straight and I was moving my head. And then the fight started, &#8230; And I had the video, like the VHS, but it got thrown out when we got rid of all the VHS’s. So, it’s a shame. But like, even if I had it, I wouldn’t show anyone because I was 15 years old and I was just throwing punches like I was doing freestyle in the swimming pool!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It was just adrenaline. And back then, 2005, or I think it was, every punch was a score.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So I won the fight by two points. So basically two punches. And they did, you know, later on when they were doing the scoring, they moved it to where like they would not be so candid giving out the scores. The scores used to be high, but then later on they changed the scoring so that you had to be really clear when you land a punch and you’d have low scoring fights. But like you’d see fights that were like 20 something to 30 something, back then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So like two punches in 2005 is like not much at all! And yeah, that’s basically like my first 12 months of boxing. It was just a roller coaster and it just humbled me and gave me a sense of morality and purpose and discipline. And I recommend everyone put their kids into boxing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But the first time, I don’t really have a point where I really started to win a spar.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Well, that’s a point though. You win a fight!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it’s a different, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, so that’s a point where you realise, I love this!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How old were you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I was 15 and I had half a dozen fights before I was 18.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I had a kid!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s where I was coming to next.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So, yeah, I got my missus pregnant when I was in high school.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How old were you when she fell pregnant?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, 17. Yeah. And then that sort of put my boxing career on hold.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How did you feel when she told you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It was terrible! It was terrible. Like family said that we’d ruin our lives and all this. It was very taboo back then. And from where I grew up, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How’d you meet? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> How’d you meet Beck?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> She’ll tell people that we met through friends. But I had a pretty big friend circle growing up and I used to have these garage parties in my garage.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, I like to tell people we met in the garage. But she’s a classy lady, so she’ll just tell people that we met through friends.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In the garage!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> In my garage.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. At a garage party! And what did you look like then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, well, I did have like a dragon tail, like a rat tail. One of my favourite fighters was Costa Zoo. So, yeah, I just kind of grew my tail out like his and that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, I was fighting and I won a State title as a youth. And then I kind of like around 17, 16, started like drinking and partying with mates. I never did, I never did drugs or anything like that. Never even, never even smoked weed and that thing. But like all my friends would do everything and but like I was always protected by them because they’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nah, he’s a boxer, he doesn’t do that shit!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, so like I had really good, loyal friends that like that. And just like some of the stuff I seen growing up, I was kind of scared of that sort of thing,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But you met Beck.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And then the stork brought you a baby in a bundle!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. And like I said, I was partying a lot in that time and I’d gotten in trouble with the law. And my missus was pregnant and it was just like a normal west Melbourne story of, &#8230;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do you want to talk about the trouble you got in with law, or do you want to just skim over that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[15:57]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, no.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It doesn’t matter, does it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, it doesn’t matter. It’s just degenerate stuff. And yeah like I grew up and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just typical rough neighbourhood stuff, really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, you just grow up and like I said, if you’re warrior inclined and all you really have is that culture, like I said the Sopranos and like underbelly here in Australia and even in the boxing you get to rub shoulders with organised crime figures and stuff that sort of make you feel strong. And that’s all you really have. They don’t really promote a warrior culture here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think like that’s what one of the things I love that we’re doing now that if you want to be a hard man, if you want to be strong in a chad, you join the NSN! You fight, you’re a warrior for your people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You’d be a political dissident.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well right now it is. We won’t always be. But like fight for your people. Fight for your children and your grandchildren that aren’t even born yet. What, do you want to fight for some drug traffickers or sex traffickers or whatever? You know, ride around on your bike.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ride around your bike, sell drugs, sell women.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, you know, so.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Or do you want to protect your people? You want to protect your tribe? Do you want to protect your, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> What other warrior culture is there in this country? Or any Western country? It’s like, you want to be a tough guy, the only way to do is, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Be a gangster!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. You don’t even have your John McClaine or your Lethal Weapon cops anymore. You got your rainbow lanyards!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Exactly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I was a big fan of MMN and gangster rap and all that sort of stuff. So it’s like you, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s glorifying that rather than glorifying a warrior culture.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, that’s right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like the Romans or the Greeks or whatever, the Spartans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, even popular culture, like movies, there’s the dumb jock and the bimbo Stacy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know it’s not a sign of strength to go and be good in class and be smart and intelligent and study history and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, you have to kind of stumble into that world, don’t you? Because that’s the underbelly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The real underbelly is the political dissidents. The NSN, White Australia!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. So, you’re not even through pop culture, encouraged to do that sort of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You’re just encouraged to do almost anything to not be a strong, smart warrior.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! So we’ll get to that. But so you ended up, baby at 18.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You were still, &#8230; Where I’m trying to get is, you were still boxing. Boxing coach. Eventually, you started your own gym, though. What led to that? You started your own gym. What led to that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well, I did get a lot of time off boxing, and I got an apprenticeship and got through my legal stuff and I got, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s right, your apprenticeship. You’re a boilermaker.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. A fitter and turner by trade. But I got through all that stuff and I had my daughter and I started boxing again and got on my feet and I got my own place. And I got into coaching. Because I’d put on a lot of weight and I was embarrassed, and it was too hard to train seriously, doing an apprenticeship and trying to deal with a daughter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we were still normies back then. We weren’t some trad family. Beck was trying to be independent woman, and I was trying to enjoy time, trying to mix time with my mates, having parties, having fun with the baby. And work and apprenticeship. So there wasn’t a lot of boxing going on for three, or four years or three years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I started boxing again in 2012, had a few more fights.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How old were you? 21?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> 21, yeah. And Beck and I decided that we needed a sibling for our daughter, that we didn’t want to be too far apart.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Not a surprise that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[20:13]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, it wasn’t a surprise. We understood that we were young. We understood that I was still an apprentice and I was trying to box. And I was fighting again, and I entered the state titles and I got through the first round. And you fight week by week when you’re in the state titles to draw.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I was into the semi-finals. And the week before the semi-finals because it was two weeks apart, my son was born. And then basically I was like trying to cut weight and there was a week before the fight and he was waking up for feeds and I was trying to go to work, because we’re living pay to pay. We had $20 to spare at the end of every fortnight with an apprentice wage, our own place and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Family support physically, but our families don’t come from money. So it’s like everything we did was like we did ourselves with little help from our parents. And they helped where they could. And they always supported us, but it was still hard.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I basically went to work and I just called up my coach and I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’re gonna have to pull me out. I can’t make weight. Like, I can’t stay up all night and go to work.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I hung up from there. And I drove straight to the servo and I got a meat pie and an ice break. And just filled myself up with dopamine because I was so full of cortisol! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was the same thing. Then I got a new job at a really big company and all this sort of stuff. And the career really took off, and I was focusing on my two kids. It’s very hard to train every day when you have two kids. Very hard. But I’ve always trained. Like, I’ve trained three days a week, four days, but not enough to fight. Not enough to diet and fight and travel around Melbourne to spar at other gyms.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And all that sort of stuff. My coaches was getting into his 90s at this point. So I ended up buying my own house. And renovating, and doing all the nuclear family stuff and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Normie maxing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Normie maxing. And then once I bought my house and it was renovated and I was happy and comfortable, I was in the right place to have a few more fights. So I had a few more fights in 2017. And then after those fights, I was coaching. There was a lot going on at the youth club I was at.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My coach had gone into a nursing home and he was the president for a long time. He was the head leader. You know, it was fascism. It was his way! And once he went into a nursing home, the committee, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The committees!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, committees. So a group of vultures is called a committee. And he was the head of the committee. But he was the one person in charge.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Tom Sewell loves committees, doesn’t he?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No! No, he doesn’t!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But yeah, he was in charge. And once he went into a nursing home, all these vultures took over the committee. Most of them were women and very feminist and used proxy voting and all these things from like, I’m not going to go into it, but, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Beginning of the end.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it was beginning of the end. So it came to the point where they wouldn’t even let us open it up on Sundays because of regulations and all this stuff. And they wouldn’t let a spar if we had, &#8230; They were just making up rules because they just basically wanted to turn into a box fit club and not a, &#8230; And they’ve done this in Sunshine and other suburbs with youth clubs. They’ve basically pushed all the fighters and the boxers out and turned them into these box fit things for women in yoga pants or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we were training at just a commercial gym every Sunday and sparring and I’ll set up these big sparring days and we a couple time we had some guests come and some former World Champions and stuff come and watch the sparring. It was very funny, just in a commercial gym.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But after that we would get coffees and stuff and then there was a big group of us and everyone was telling me to open my own gym and I was saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nah.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you were a coach yourself at this point?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I was a coach. Been a coach for a while, since Olivia was born, and I put on all this weight and my coach rang me up. This is the longest I didn’t train for. It was about six months. The longest I didn’t train for since I was 14 years old, was when she was born and all that. I was in a dark place. And he rang me up after six months and he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Come back to the gym, mate.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Nah, I’m fat and I’m embarrassed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t be a bum. Just get to the gym. I’ll get your coaching licence.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I coached for a few years after Olivia was born. And then while I was coaching, I’d started sparring again and I was end up beating up the fighters. You know, these fighters were doing things, they were winning big fights and then he just pulled me aside again and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Again, stop being a fucking bum. You’re beating these guys that you shouldn’t be. So start fighting.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s when I started fighting in 2012 again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, so I stopped fighting and I started focusing on trying to build this gym. And in 2019, we opened this gym, and everyone convinced me and got behind me and it was awesome! We hit the ground running.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What was it called?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Legacy. Legacy Boxing Gym. And we thought of all these names to call it, and we sat around the table like a committee. And I’m not very creative. I’m not very articulate or creative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I was just asking everyone, I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Go away for next week, come back with 10 names each and let’s see what we should call it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we came up with all these weird names and people were saying, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, why don’t you call it Lutze’s Boxing or Tim’s Boxing?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what I said was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t want my name attached to it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[25:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I’ve seen it. I’ve seen coaches do that and they’re like, “<em>Team, whatever</em>”. It’s like the coach’s name here, it’s like coach Smith, and it’s got “<em>Team Smith</em>” on the back, like these guys using their fighters to promote themselves. You know, it’s not something that I’ve ever sort of appreciated. But if people want to do that, that’s on them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it’s not something that I want to do. I want my fighters to do their own thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So one of the guys said to me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s really hard because it’s going to be about our coach, our coach’s legacy, and it has to be about our legacy going forward.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, it is hard. I don’t know what we can call it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I just said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Leave the names with me.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we came back a week later and I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’ve got it. I know what we should call it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We call it Legacy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the guy that said he leans over to me and he goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Did I accidentally come up with that?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, you kind of did.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we all got together and I told him the name and I said because it’s about the legacy that was passed on to us from our coach and now the people that helped us get where we are. And it’s about your legacy going forwards. So everyone comes to the gym and creates their own legacy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, legacy doesn’t belong to everyone. Your legacy belongs to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, that’s nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. The way you train, the way you eat, you sleep, will determine what your legacy will be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Your legacy! Yeah. That’s nice. It doesn’t matter how many people you have in your gym, how big it grows, each individual has their own legacy to build. That’s cool.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And throughout boxing, what I’ve noticed, you know, from walking into Footskill Youth Club, a smart arse kid, and getting humbled and then starting my own gym and helping people build their own legacies, it made me realise that the lessons that boxing bring to life, like they’re comparable. You know, like boxing is a metaphor for life. You know, you can’t play boxing, you can’t sit on the bench when you’re tired, you can’t pass the ball to your teammate. And that’s how life is that’s how it should be anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So how you train is how your fight’s going to go. You can’t cheat!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You can’t cheat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You can’t do it easy. You can’t cheat on the bag. You can’t cheat when you’re skipping.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You can’t write the answers on your arm.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Nah, you know, yeah, you can’t cherry pick. You can’t stand in the goals and just kick it in, be a Striker.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You’re everything in the ring. You’re the defender, you’re the offender.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, and you control the pace or the pace controls you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And you’ve got to deal with it. So boxing is just a good metaphor for life, and that’s what I’ve always found.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And there’s still some teamwork to it, like in training and stuff like that. But when it comes down to it, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Nobody ever has success getting to a fight by themselves!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! So there’s still that aspect of teamwork, life, too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You got to be able to work with, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You need guys, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But then you still got to be able to do your part, your thing, and then that’s what the fight itself is, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You need guys to train with, to spa with, to hit the bag with, to tell you to pick it up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You don’t need to have twenty fights to tell me that I’m dropping my hands or I’ve got my chin in the air or like, I’ve seen people, they’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You can’t tell me what to do. You’ve only had one fight or you’ve had no fights or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, it’s either my chin is in the air or it’s not. And so I would have young guys, I’d be sparring, another gym, would come, or a lot of the young guys would like to go to other gyms with you just to watch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I used to as well. I used to go with the older guys and watch them spar. They’re going to spar with some big names. And you come to the corner and your coach or your cornerman’s there. And then I used to look at the young guy or whatever and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What am I doing wrong?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they’re just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, what are you asking me for?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, you can tell me if I’m keeping my chin in the air or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And sometimes they give you good advice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Sometimes they do. Even, like, I grew up, playing soccer was my game back at home, and I grew up with guys that were never very good at it. But then they had a really good head for it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They had a really good head for the tactics. Really good head that could coach it really well, you know?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So it’s not always the best fighter that makes the best coach, not always the best player that makes the best coach.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[30:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But we started the gym 2019 and three months later, we just got put into Covid lockdowns for two years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, lovely. Brand new gym!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We were in the building for three months before Covid happened. But as quick as we’re in the building, the gym already had two fights, two wins.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, two weeks before Covid. So we got in the gym, we built it. I was training the boys as we’re building it. One week we’re slipping on slippery concrete. The next week it was polished and covered so it had grip, and we’re drilling bags on the walls and they’re hitting bags and yeah, so we managed to squeeze two fights in and it was locked down for two years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And what did you do during lockdowns?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We trained!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Was no fighting, was there? Was there no competition?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> There was not for a year, but after a year, you’d come out of lockdown for like a month. And the fights had never been more busy. Somehow everyone been training. And everyone would put their fighters in and then they would have a card. Sometimes there were two cards in one day in the morning and an afternoon card, all the way into like seven o’clock at night. Just because there were so many people that wanted to fight. But everyone trained. I closed for about a month thinking that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, it’s two weeks, they’re going to lock down for flatten the curve.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you realise that it’s total bullshit! I think most of Victoria realised, oh, no, actually there were a lot of retards!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, I realised after a month it was bullshit! And I messaged the boys, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is what it is. Let’s go back.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was only the very inner circle that was training and keeping it quiet for about until about six months. And then I was like, at that point, you’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We could lose everything, or we could just start training again and risk losing everything.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, what’s the difference?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, so I just told them, word of mouth, bring anyone you want, train. And like, we were never more busy than Covid, especially the end of Covid. Like, no one in Victoria gave a shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then word of mouth just spread and it was just the gym was packed and yeah, that was a busy day. And then everything opened up and everyone started doing things again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was like a quiet period after Covid. It wasn’t like we opened up and everyone was there. It was actually the reverse. We can go to restaurants!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Crazy, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. But, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was around, 2021?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, 2021, 2022. And, 2022 the gym had about 30 something fights. And we had three guys on the state team and I got a position as a State coach on the youth team.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And yeah, the gym was just flying!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you got positioned as the State coach on the State youth team?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And how many coaches on the, &#8230; What does that entail?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So you go, &#8230; I can’t remember. It’s about every three weeks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Who are you coaching?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You kind of coach the whole group. There’s a lot of coaches because you’ve got to think that it’s a rolling tournament, the nationals. So you have to have two coaches in the corner for every fighter. So like you’re warming someone up, there’s two other coaches warming someone up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> There’s two coaches in the ring warming someone up. And then there’s a head coach.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And you’re still running your own gym, Legacy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So every three weeks you go to a different sort of, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And you were still working?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, still work full-time. I’ve never, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Still had two children.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Yep. Still had two children. And that’s where Beck really came into her own. And she just supported the house, supported the gym. And we were just able to, &#8230; And the kids. It was the happiest we ever were.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Just really found your feet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Look, we used to go camping every weekend before I had the gym. And I don’t think we went camping once, once we had the gym, but the kids, everyone were all happy. We loved camping. And during Covid we were camping in the gym and doing all sorts of fun stuff!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you’re busy. You were doing this thing as a family.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[34:38]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> For one of the kids birthdays during Covid we messaged a couple friends and we rang like a jumping castle guy to hire a jumping castle. And he was so happy to hear from us. He hadn’t had business in months. And we asked him if he’d be willing to bring it into a factory and keep it quiet and all that. And he bought us the biggest jumping castle and it was so cheap, and a free fairy floss and all this. And we just had this indoor party inside the gym. Yeah, it was really good! But we were so happy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we had a few fights during Covid. My boys had to, had to change organisation during Covid because some of them, well, some of them got vaxxed, but some of them didn’t want to get vaxxed. So I didn’t get waxed and so I was encouraging them not to. Some of them did for whatever reason. But they were training and they wanted to fight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you switch organisations in Victoria, you’re basically black banned. It’s like a no, no, you do not switch organisations. They’re very militant about that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I went to the other organisation because the one, the association I was in, which is the Olympic Boxing Association, they said that they cannot fight:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, without vax they can’t fight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I said to the boys.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Your career is not over. Doesn’t mean we can’t fight. We’ll call the other organisation, we’ll check.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we rang them. I was open and honest, I didn’t lie. And I told them the deal and they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, they can come and fight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we went fight and one of my boys won the State title in that league. Which was awesome! It was an awesome moment. And he actually did it like in a country town against the hometown guy. And the crowd was rowdy as! And they were drunk and they were hitting the ring, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How old was he?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Around 18.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. Nice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Around 18, a young guy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s intimidating for an 18 year old, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. And these guys were hitting the ring. The ref had to stop the fight a few times to tell the crowd to calm down. And he was just picking their boy apart.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then after the fight it was like they were sort of pushing me, shoved me on the back like drunken. And it was like two police in there, just shitting their pants just:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Like what are we gonna do?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two country cops like on the walkie talkies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then as the fight ends, my guy lifts up the guy’s his opponent’s hand and thumbs up the crowd. And the crowd loved that! And they just thought he was cool for that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then he got the decision and he won. And they kind of like, cheered him a little bit. And yeah, and we got out of the ring and they were like, slapping me on the back, like really hard! Like I was <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, thanks.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> It was good in the end.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it was good. It was good.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then, yeah, we got the call from the Association, threatening, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why did we do it? Why did we go in the other league? Blah, blah, blah, you know, why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know why! You try to force my boys to get vaccinated!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I told him I didn’t want to, that I’d grown up in the association, that I know in all the committee in the association since I was a boy. And I did grow up with these men.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You were being diplomatic about it. You could have just told them to go, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And so, yeah, they sort of said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well don’t do it again, whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like this is when everything opened up, and I was just questioned off the side. It wasn’t too official. But after that it was just fight, fight, every single week. You know, one of my boys had 11 fights in 12 months.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. And he made the State team, went national.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Nice. And geez, you would have been proud.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I was. And so after that, they still made me State coach and that, because I had grown up in there. And the president of Victoria was my coach before he went into the nursing home. So I had really close connections with the coaches and the committee at Boxing Victoria and Boxing Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> This kind of leads us into the heavier stuff, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it does. So everything was perfect. My job was good, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In the background, though, you are, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I had the nuclear family, I bought my house, I had my business, and everything was perfect, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But in the background Covid as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, it wasn’t, was it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, Covid was over.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, Covid was over. But during all of this you are, like many of us, you’re being exposed to a different set of politics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yes. So that was my boxing journey. My political journey started like most Australians and Americans, I guess, was like around, 2016, 2017. You know, 2016, I was like watching the Trump campaign and Gavin McInnes and Ben Shapiro, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Ben Shapiro and fucking, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, that was my 2016. And I was a, I would say a nationalist. Like, I wasn’t civic. I’ve never been a civic nationalist. I’ve never thought that a piece of paper makes you Australian. Very few people think that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Nobody thinks that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[39:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, very few people think that. And especially where I’m from, nobody thinks that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Nobody believes that shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And so I never believed that. But I got into that 2017, I started my red pilling process, and I don’t really remember how it kicked off. But I had like a work mate that was telling me about the financial system, it’s run by the jews and World War II is a bit of a lie, and gave me some revisionist history. And I was very sceptical about it and I’m like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What about that Spielberg movie?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And like, you have German, &#8230; So one side of your family’s German? One side English?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Anglo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So they fought each other World War II?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. So both my great grandfathers were in the war and they both, &#8230; Well, my Anglo great grandfather was stationed in Japan and my German grandfather was in the Wehrmacht. But you know, it was a brother war, but they didn’t really fight each other. So my German side, they look at it as like a dark history of our family. My grandfather grew up in Germany and he went to communist schools and he took the trip to Auschwitz every year. And so indoctrinations in our schools are probably only starting to reach the levels they were in communist Germany.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. So like up until this point in your life, you hadn’t even really heard out the German side of the story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No! Like it was something you don’t really talk about as a German.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, exactly! You don’t talk about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No. You don’t talk about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s a real dark part!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And it’s always brought up to you. Like soon as people, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, people bring it up to you, but you don’t want to talk about it. You just got an aversion to the subject.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And the people are like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, you’re German. Heil Hitler!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you’re kind of like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, no, Hitler’s actually Austrian.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You try to distance yourself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s like not racist thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So I was doing the revisionist history and that. And just getting all the normal red pills that you get, like David Irving and Ernst Zundel and you know, like, yeah, I just took that path and I watched the Greatest Story Never Told. And then around, 2018, Europa came out. I watched Europa. And I was depressed! I remember watching it. I was depressed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Fucking right, man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I was telling everyone! And everyone thought I was crazy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, I was trying to tell my mom and my family. They’re all just like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What’s wrong with you?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just found out this secret, this lie, and you want to tell everyone and you just start speaking, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It’s the same story, it’s the same journey for everybody that comes down this path, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Where you feel like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’ve just found this out! We have to wake everybody up. We have to tell everybody. Everybody has to notice!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And it’s futile, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And as this is going on, I’m having my struggles at the youth club with feminism and all these things like, attack on masculinity in my boxing gym. As if these two things were kind of related.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was really distracted with the boxing gym for a couple of years. And then, like trying to set that up. And then Covid hit. And then I knew who the enemy was!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Like, Covid showed me who the enemy was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I was really down during Covid when I couldn’t go to the gym and we weren’t training properly and like it was a long time. It was a long time. It feels like it wasn’t, but it was such a long time. And we started home-schooling, and I really loved that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Did you check the “<em>early life</em>” of all the pharmaceutical company CEOs? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Early life? What’s that? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> But nah. So, yeah I was in a dark place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, like I said the gym started opening up. And everyone started fighting. And I just immersed myself in the boxing, because that’s all I’ve ever done. And like I said, everything started going for me. I had every reason to just go back asleep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Gaslight yourself!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. After the blue pill!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And just run my gym. Become Australian coach, go to World Games!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Had you read Mien Kampf?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And looking back on it now, didn’t he have a very similar journey where he kept taking the blue pill as well? Again, we all have a very similar journey. Where we basically gaslight ourselves, give ourselves the blue pill just because it’s easier!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[44:49]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I remember reading it and how much it made sense, and, &#8230; It didn’t, &#8230; I was actually underwhelmed by it. Yeah, I thought it was like this thing, like it’s banned!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You read it and it’s like completely grounded!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> A really reasonable guy that thinks like I think, like it’s all based in certain natural law.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, like I had this thing, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was like common sense! Yeah, he’s a common sense patriot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, he’s a common sense patriot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But yeah, so like I tried to distract myself with that stuff and everything was going for me and I had a good crew at the gym and you know, good inner membership. And 80% of my members knew about my views and we’d throw Romans in the gym and crack jokes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I always say, there was one guy that I grew up with since I was 15 in boxing that I wasn’t honest with. He was actually a police officer, and we were completely different ideology. We’d have debates and that. But yeah I kind of regret not being honest. But I knew if I was honest with him I’d lose the friendship. Which as soon as I was doxed he had a key to the gym. He basically cleaned his locker out and left the key on the reception and left. And he’s never, never spoke to me and I never heard from him again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Nice. Fuck! Hurts when that shit happens. But yeah, you knew that was going to happen though. That’s the funny thing about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, he definitely would have like not been surprised when he found out just because all the jokes and the Romans. But like I wasn’t honest with him and he was a friend of mine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But like I mean there’s a way saying, you’re not honest with somebody is like who really is, &#8230; Just because of your politics is almost like you have to expose, you have to tell people, you have to be honest with people about your politics?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But most people don’t even talk about politics!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> We grew up with the never talk about religion, never talk about politics, never talk about money. That’s what we grow up with in the West.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well that’s the problem though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s a hundred percent the problem! Absolutely is the problem! But then for you to say though that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I wasn’t honest with this guy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s kind of like but who is nowadays? Nobody talks, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, in hindsight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Like Westerners anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But yeah, if I was honest he would have left anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, I did pull all my inner circle aside and say that and we were following everything that was happening, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Was you actually, after us talking about getting doxed now. But we haven’t even got to any, doxed for what, Tim? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, well, this is what I was just saying. I was still so empty. Everything was perfect. The house, the dog, the kids, the business, the full-time job. And every weekend in a different location for fights and country fights and traveling over the state and interstate and it was gonna start going overseas. So I had every reason to just do that and I don’t regret not doing it time but I wish I wasn’t doxed, maybe if I had 12 more months in the boxing world, it would have been interesting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, so I was empty, and my missus knew I was empty. Because I had this dark cloud. I had this dark cloud in my mind and just yeah this the world on my shoulders. And I thought about doing a lot of things, and I was kind of looking at the time they were developing active clubs in America.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Rondo <span style="color: #008000;">[sp]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And yeah, I thought maybe I could do something like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I did notice the NSN sort of come up on the project and these other news sort of a Current Affair shows and I thought that’d be, that’d be good too. But I did start following them and I started following, you know, Tom, Jacob, not Jacob. Oh yeah, Tom and Jazz CB, Hard Knocks and yeah. Just trying to think how I could get in contact with them and, or if I should get in contact with them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And this was probably at the start of 22 and we know boys are fighting. I’m still distracted and but I’m still empty. And so then, &#8230; Tom went to jail!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Do you reckon that it was just something that was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fucking, I know this stuff and I have to do something about it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I need to do something about it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like I have to fucking do something about this! I can’t just sit idly by and not do anything.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Tom went to jail during Covid. And then I thought it was kind of over like as I was thinking what to do during Covid because I was considering, &#8230; That was when, during Covid is when I was considering, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That was when Tom Sewell?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. So during Covid when I was thinking about doing the active club thing, I was trying to think how could I do this? You know, because I’m from a very multicultural part of Melbourne and my gym was pretty multicultural. Where I live it’s just not possible to not be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[49:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, but plus that’s not what your gripe is with anyway, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, no.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It never has been for as long as I’ve known you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So yeah, my gym wasn’t like a White gym.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And you never, it never was planned to be. I was just trying to build an active club that could be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know, the gym was never planned to be that. And it was never the goal. And so you know, we’re in Covid and Thomas is in jail, and I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, that’s all over. That was kind of fun. That could have been something.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Tom got out of jail and it was a little bit quiet for a while. I still thought it was over. I was just happy he got out and all this. But then some pictures started emerging and they were training and they were doing things and they organised a fight day. And I was thinking of attending that fight day but then I actually remember we had some fights on that weekend. So I ended up not like doing that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then Jimbo got stabbed in the neck. Jimbo Roberts got stabbed in the neck. And the cops didn’t seem to be investigating him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And that was it! That was like the straw that broke the camel’s back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> In the middle of Melbourne where there’s CCTV everywhere. Where you couldn’t fart without getting Arrested!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You were in the Org. <span style="color: #008000;">[NSN]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, I was in the Org.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I didn’t know that. So you were actually there. So you know all about that. And so I’m watching this from the outside and I was, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The cops know who stabbed Jimbo in the neck.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They do. Let’s be honest. We know well they know. There’s no way they don’t know.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We can get in the cops later. I’ve got a lot to say about them! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But just in that particular one, they know who stabbed him. There’s no way you can stab somebody in the throat in Melbourne and not be on CCTV.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, it’s like London. There’s just cameras everywhere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Cameras everywhere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So Jimbo was stabbed in the neck and he was in a coma for about two weeks, I believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And in his two weeks I was really angry! And I was and my missus just had enough. She could see the torment that was happening the conflict inside of me. And she just said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just join! Just contact them or do something. Do something. Because you can’t keep living how you’re living.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And she knew your, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I would talk to her about everything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So she’d seen all this stuff as well, and she’d seen The Greatest Story Never Told, herself?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, no, no! She’s not like that. She calls it her “<em>bubble</em>”. Should stay in her bubble.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, the Holodomor!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t need to know that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She calls it her bubble. She wants to live in her bubble. So I try not to burst it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But it’s awesome that she didn’t doubt you or anything. She didn’t even know about it, but trusted what you’re saying, what you believe and what you’re saying is right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We’ve been together since high school, so she’s 100%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> She just knows.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, she knows. And she knows I’ve always provided and done everything. So she’s, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> She’d know you have a bit of a sort of a purity to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And she knew what was going on, and I was explaining it to her over the years from 2016, we’re in 2021 now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And so Jimbo woke up and she’s like, encouraged me to join or “<em>to do something</em>” was her words.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So I messaged Jimbo and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, mate, I’m glad you’re okay. I’ve got a gym if you boys want to come and train. Feel free to message me back.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Beginning of the end of Legacy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It was almost straight away, like, he messaged me and he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’ll speak to the big guy, or the big man.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I know what that means.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think it was like less than a week later, you know, him, Nathan Bull and Tom just walk into the reception at Legacy. And had the family there and took him through a boxing session.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And yeah, Nathan was in his early days then, too. Nathan was a bit soft in the belly and not very mature.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He’s a different man now, isn’t he? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> He is. Like, I’m not even allowed to talk to him. That’s heartbreaking. Yeah, I’ve had a very close relationship with Nathan. He’s grown so much since I’ve joined. And I’ve tried my best to guide him. I hope that I’ve contributed to the man he is today because he’s a very staunch man!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I hope so, too. And you definitely have.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And loyal, and there is no situation that he wouldn’t have your back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[54:11]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And you’ve seen it before. Even Tom’s seen it. If you remember. If you remember back, like, he, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> He used to annoy the shit out of Tom.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yo! Oh! And you can understand why! Like, it wasn’t, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> If looks could kill, we wouldn’t have Nathan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No. We wouldn’t!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> He would blurt something out. And Tom would just, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But a little bit of guidance. His loyalties is off the charts!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Nah. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Like, he’s just grown so much. And he’s a father now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, and beautiful little girl.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It’s just amazing, his transformation. It makes you realise what we’re doing. And I’ve seen it in the boxing gym and like people come in. You know, you get all types in the boxing gym, and people think that you get, &#8230; Not everyone’s a rough nut. Like, a lot of people start boxing because they’re not. Because they get bullied.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of my best fighters at Legacy, he started because he had to leave different schools because he was getting bullied. And even when he was State champion, you know, he was in year 12 and he’s State champion, and these things were still happening and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Crazy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I just told him, like guys in the gym, it’s a rough area. So some of the other older guys in the gym were:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I know, we’ll come down to your school.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just don’t. I’ve been there. Don’t do it. He’s almost finished school. Let him finish school. And then he can just worry about his boxing career or whatever it is he wants to do in life.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because it escalates! It escalates. And it was only words. It wasn’t physical, but like, yeah, he’d go to school and he could waste anyone he wants. But in areas that we grow up in, a fight doesn’t end once you bash someone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know, that person has a cousin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep. That’s the beginning.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> These people are brown and they have cousins and friends.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And if you can’t beat you with these.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, yeah, most of them can’t beat you with those. That’s why you’re gonna get stabbed or.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So it’s like. Yeah, it was best just to let him do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> He’s mad as a bat. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I can see it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But, yeah, so then I messaged Jimbo and then, yeah, he came down and trained with the boys. I think about a week later, I was added to the chats and Tom sort of put a message in the chats:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I need some guys for something.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, all right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I messaged him. I was at work, I messaged him and I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, cool. What do you need?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He goes:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I need you to be here at this time and wear black clothing, and bring a mask.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So kind of bizarre!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are we robbing a bank? What have I joined here? What are we doing?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, I don’t think there was a rally before that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Because I actually couldn’t get to that one. Yeah, so that would have been awesome! Even though I was a part of it for quite a while at that stage, we hadn’t done a rally. Yeah, we’ve just been training and training. And actually, I met you before that because you did train on a Saturday before that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, that’s what I meant. So that was during the week.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. You came to the park on the Saturday.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> On the Saturday, Yeah, I was added to the chats and so I think it was that week. It was within seven days, roughly. Yeah, something like that. Right? Oh, no, maybe it was. Yeah, Saturday to Saturday. I think they came on a Saturday, it was like, Grand Final.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway. Yeah, a week or two weeks. And then I get this message at work and so I was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, yeah, there was a tranny in a park dancing for little children, and they’d seen it the day before, and they just impromptu rushed and made this our first rally and so, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Demon flesh.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I rocked up there and none of us were in, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So it was basically one of these Drag Queen Story Hour type events, wasn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, it was like, &#8230; And these were unheard of in Australia. Like there were a thing in America, but I don’t remember one before that. But they were very quiet. Even this one was quiet. And the only reason that I believe they found out about it is because one guy lives in the area and he’s seen a poster.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yep. It was this weird satanic shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, some tranny.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> That staples shit to itself on stage for, does adult shows.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. And they were doing this for children.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Not stapling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But this was especially for children.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, this was especially for children in the park.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[58:37]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So I rocked up there and Tom and Jimbo were standing there. There were some other boys around in the park. I was aware that they were there. I didn’t know who they were, or didn’t meet them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And so Tom’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Did you bring a mask?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I stopped at the servo <span style="color: #008000;">[gas station]</span> and I got a black Covid mask. You know, like none of us were in matching black block. It was so ghetto! Yeah, we just ploughed along the field. Police tried to block us. We sort of pushed our way through and then yeah, there was the first rally. And we were in all the news and the papers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And if anyone is watching this, look it up. It’s the Belial B’Zarr, I think it was called. Belial B’Zarr. Where was it? Moonee Ponds*.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Moonee Ponds is an inner-city suburb in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 7 km north-west of Melbourne’s Central Business District, located within the City of Moonee Valley local government area. Moonee Ponds recorded a population of 16, 224 at the 2021 census. Moonee Ponds is home to Queens Park and the Moonee Valley Racecourse. Wikipedia]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/NSN-rally-at-Moonee-Ponds-Melbourne-Oct-2022.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37994" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/NSN-rally-at-Moonee-Ponds-Melbourne-Oct-2022.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="931" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/NSN-rally-at-Moonee-Ponds-Melbourne-Oct-2022.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/NSN-rally-at-Moonee-Ponds-Melbourne-Oct-2022-600x787.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[The group of men staged the vile protest at Queen’s Park, unfurling two banners. One referred to Drag Queen Belial B’Zarr as “<em>Demon Flesh</em>” while another read “<em>Drag Pedos Groom Kids</em>”.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Moonee Ponds. The NSN went to protest in a park and there should be good videos. Go watch it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Maybe someone can link it in the comments section or something. And then I was hooked! I was hooked. I had done something, you know, where I felt like I did something.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I was less than 10 minutes away, standing on the roof of a hospital that was currently under construction, trying to get away. And I had a photographer there that I was taking around.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And he cost like two and a half grand a day. And this was like 12 o’ clock.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I was like going:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You got enough!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was like literally just trying to get him to go, but he was like one of these guys that he’s dedicated to his job. I just wanted to get away so I could come and join you, but I couldn’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And I missed that day. So I wasn’t hooked yet!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But, yeah. And then I was hooked and I just started training Saturdays and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yeah, I guess that brings us to the doxing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So we start using Legacy, didn’t we?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Well, we used Legacy one month and then we’ll go the next week we’ll go somewhere else and stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Legacy was still Legacy? It was still Legacy, but you were welcoming of us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So you was welcome to train with my guys and all that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Which we did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, you did. It wasn’t a Whites only gym or anything like that. And the majority of my membership, I had notified I was joining and I told him I was joining and especially the inner circle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Most of them had no problem with it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, no, no! And some of the boys who lived in the West would come and train at the Legacy sessions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And we’d still fighting and some of my boys would fight, and the EAM <span style="color: #008000;">[European Australian Movement]</span> would come down and watch and support my voice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there’s a was one card at the Croatian Club where all the boys came down and we filled up a couple tables. And yeah, it was good. It was a really good day for me just to, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That traitor dog John Setka* was there. I was like fucking burning a hole in the back of the cunt’s head!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* John Setka is a former Australian trade Unionist. Until 12 July 2024, he was the Secretary of the Victorian-Tasmanian division of the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, and Energy Union for 12 years. The Victorian-Tasmanian division administers the South Australian division under a temporary arrangement. Wikipedia]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> He is the head of the CFMEU Union, the biggest union in Australia. He was, he’s actually stepped down because of all these organised crime links or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, boxing’s full of that. Yeah, it’s full of organised criminals and stuff like that, associated with boxing. It always has been. I think in most countries it’s a thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> What did they have in the lobby? It was in the Croatian Club, wasn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I believe it’s still there. They’ve got a statue of Ante Pavelić*, the fascist leader of Croatia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Ante Pavelić-Croatian fascist general and military dictator (1889–1959) Ante Pavelić was a Croatian politician who founded and headed the fascist ultranationalist organisation known as the Ustaše in 1929 and was dictator of the Independent State of Croatia, a fascist state built out of parts of occupied Yugoslavia by the authorities of NS Germany and Fascist Italy, from 1941 to 1945.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think me and Tom took a photo in front of it that night. I don’t think we ever posted it. I wasn’t doxed then. But yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So how did you get doxed?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well, Tom was going to hold a national fight competition and I offered my gym and I really wanted it to be hosted at my gym. I thought it would be an honour! And Tom agreed. So we did. I think it was the first national fight competition ever, it would have been. And we did it at Legacy. And we set the ring up and we had a food and music and everything. And it was our first nationals and we all fought each other and yeah, it was a good day! We had a barista.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Fantastic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But, yeah, and then a few videos and stuff got posted from that and photos. And Internet sleuth sort of matched the gym with mine. And it was always going to happen because a lot of the State coaches and a lot of gyms have come down to my gym for sparring. Like we were on every fight card in 2022, every fight card!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Somebody was gonna do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> There were dozens of people at every fight walking around with Legacy Hoodies and that sort of stuff. And which meant that a lot of gyms would come to our gym for sparring and we’d go to theirs. So it probably wasn’t very hard to have the gym doxed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I underestimated the power that the doxing had. I kind of thought it would get doxed and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It would just die off or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Not die off, but I thought that I was ready for the heat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You got heavied, though, because you had a gym.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Because I was a community person.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> I’ve grown up in Footscray. Well, I’m not from Footscray, but I grew up training in Footscray and I had my gym in Sunshine. I was very established in the boxing world and I was on the State team. And hopefully I was being groomed to be on the Australian team as a coach and at the same time, I was thinking about fighting again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You had to be destroyed! That’s what that is. Really. That was the approach. A lot of us just get a bit of a doxing, whatever. You might lose your bank account. That’s it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You got it all. Like, they came for everything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:04:47]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So, yeah, they put two and two together and they found out that it was Legacy boxing. And yeah, I thought that I’d be able to talk my way out of it and say that it’s politics, it’s got nothing to do with boxing and all that sort of stuff.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I found out on Christmas Eve actually in the newspaper that I had my coaching licence stripped and my gym de-registered and all this stuff. Like, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No hearings?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, nothing! Just taken. And all my membership were like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to stick by you.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> That’s the association. Boxing association?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. So Victoria Amateur Boxing Association. It was actually Boxing Australia, that did it. So President David Pike of Boxing Australia actually did it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Assembled-right-wing-activists-pose-at-Legacy-Boxing-Gym-in-Sunshine-West.-Dec-2022.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37996" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Assembled-right-wing-activists-pose-at-Legacy-Boxing-Gym-in-Sunshine-West.-Dec-2022.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="758" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Assembled-right-wing-activists-pose-at-Legacy-Boxing-Gym-in-Sunshine-West.-Dec-2022.jpg 840w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Assembled-right-wing-activists-pose-at-Legacy-Boxing-Gym-in-Sunshine-West.-Dec-2022-600x541.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Assembled-right-wing-activists-pose-at-Legacy-Boxing-Gym-in-Sunshine-West.-Dec-2022-768x693.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> All right. Really?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So it’s all the way up and so, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> So you were as a State coach on your way to be probably an Australian coach.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And not only are you not going to be a State coach anymore, but you’ve lost your life, &#8230; Somehow, you’re now incapable of teaching people how to box?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, I’m not allowed to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Somehow your politics means that you can’t, you like, I don’t know, you lost the skill to teach boxing or some shit?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Everyone knows if I was an Aboriginal nationalist it wouldn’t have happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> If you were any other nationalist!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know there’s an Aboriginal gym in Fitzroy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And why shouldn’t there be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Well, I don’t have a problem with that at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You didn’t even have a White only gym!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But why shouldn’t I if I wanted to?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah. You just welcome the White only group to your gym.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So my fighters, some of whom which were non-White, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You didn’t ban any other races to the gym?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, never. No, no.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Where any of them treated badly by pro-Whites, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> The thing at the gym was like people would come and they’d be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh like this guy, he’s a White nationalist or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like some of the boys would joke around and then be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh really, what’s that about?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then we’d talk about it with new members, whoever. It doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m always an open book. And I never denied it. Even down the track when I had my meeting with Boxing Australia, I was very honest about it too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You know yourself mate, the only people that care are the White Lefties.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> The other races don’t care. They understand it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They put their own tribe, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> That’s what I found in my gym.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They put their own tribes first?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Their own people first. Who doesn’t?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> My thing was if you don’t have a problem with it, you can train here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> If you’ve got a problem with it, find somewhere else.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Exactly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You know what I mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But you’re welcome.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> But that wasn’t good enough.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It wasn’t good enough. No. So you have to, &#8230; Yeah, they took my licence and that was devastating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Also, what else did you lose? Bank accounts?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, that was later on. It’s kind of like they waited to see what I would do. Like it didn’t happen all at once, it was like six months later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:07:59]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So first that happened and I laid low, but I laid low for a month or whatever.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Deal with it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, like, put a little distance between these things before you deal with them. You know, let the fire go. Because everyone’s messaging Boxing Australia and:</p>
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<p>And everyone’s doing this, Let that shit die down and people realise that it goes away. It doesn’t continue. But, yeah, they publicly came out and they said that:</p>
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<p>And like, I had Sting come out and condemn because they kitted out my whole gym and worked with me to set it up. And so they came out and they did a statement saying that they denounced me and all I stand for and all that.</p>
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<p>And it’s like, what’s it got to do with boxing equipment? Yeah, so I let all this stuff sort of die down before I started to deal with it. But I kept training, kept doing the thing and a couple of weeks my membership and my fighters stuck around, but the heat didn’t die down straight away. And when they seen it wasn’t a die, they put their careers first. Like, there were ways that I could have got someone else to be in their corner and I could try to do this and that. But they did what was best for them and they went to another gym. And they never denounced it, but they never publicly supported me and said:</p>
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<p>But like I was a bit disappointed that no one sort of publicly or none of my associates in Boxing Victoria sort of even took that into account and said:</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> How easy would that be like?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, but I did have a lot of people come to the gym. A lot of older, you know, old fighters and some coaches and some very prominent fighters message me privately, support, and even come visit me.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Name every one of them! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, not, I’m not naming, because some of them are very active.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I’m just joking mate!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And some of them are highly ranked fighters and well respected coaches as they should be. Yeah, I’m not going to do that to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> No, I’m just joking.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> But yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> If you did, just the fact that they came to your gym and supported you, what would happen to them?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> No, they’d lose their licences.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> They’d lose their licences.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. Some of them have a lot of power. Yeah, some of them are quite powerful.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> I mean, only if this was to go like viral or, you know what I mean? If this was to be seen by thousands of people, they would, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It would go viral if I named them!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> If you did. It would!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> If I name their names, it would go viral.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> And then the phone calls that start happening to Boxing. Victoria again.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Oh, yeah. And I don’t blame them.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Crazy!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We’ll be the vanguard and we’ll make it safe for everyone to have our views.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah and we’re getting there.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, that was the doxing. It was very depressing. You know, like I took a loss. You know, people don’t know how to take a loss. They try to say everything’s a win.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You did take it on the chin, though.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah. I liked being, yeah, I like being part of the boxing community and I like being in that world.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It defined who you are, for fuck’s sake!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> It was my whole identity.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s who you were. It’s your identity!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> And I decided to identify as a White man and that was the moment.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Oh, yeah, fuck you! Know what I mean?</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah, you can’t do that.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> It was similar like that when I was growing up and stuff like that. Like my first kind of things to understand was like 9/11 was nonsense! And just briefly, I used to speak out about the wars in Iraq, the war in Syria, the war in Libya. And you talk about how Gadaffi wasn’t a bad guy, and Saddam wasn’t about, &#8230; And nobody ever said a fucking word to me!</p>
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<p>But as soon as I start defending my own people, as soon as I start defending White people. Lost bank accounts, fucking etc! Not to the level of you because I didn’t have a public profile like you did. You know, I wasn’t a community man like you were. You know what I mean? So I lost bank accounts. They came from a job too, I reckon.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You can’t defend White people!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> You can’t defend and look out for your own people!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> You’ve seen coloured people be ethno-nationalists and all this sort of stuff. And then they come out and they defend White people.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Or they defend Hitler, like Kanye West, or whatever.</p>
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<p>And then they’re attacked.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Yeah, it’s not just White people can’t defend White people, nobody can!</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> So it’s just up to the White man to fight back!</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> White man fight back!</p>
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<p>Yeah. You know, actually that’s a good point to take a coffee break. You want a coffee?</p>
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</div>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> All right, let’s have a coffee. That’ll be part one.</p>
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<p><strong>Tim Lutze:</strong> We’ll wrap it up here.</p>
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<p><strong>Graham Connolly:</strong> Part one. That’s part one. All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s all for part one. In part two, Tim takes us through his footsteps and activism with the NSN, through their pivotal Winter 2025 Nationals event in Victoria, right up to the front lines of the latest March for Australia.</p>
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<p>You won’t want to miss it!</p>
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<p>88talk<br />
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18 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;m really looking forward to Part 2. When can we expect it?<br />
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Girnigoe<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hail from America.<br />
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Inevitable1488<br />
1 day ago<br />
Found some vids of the first NSN rally: https://x.com/CJMurrumbeena/status/1575693649345552385 Perfect example of how, if you really want to bring about the change you want to see in the world, sometimes you just have to go out and do something. It doesn&#8217;t have to be perfect. All you have to do is start, and then keep at it. Hail victory.<br />
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Sam_Sung<br />
1 day ago<br />
Man. Would be a lot better if you stopped cutting him off mid sentence over and over again<br />
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kalamazoogroyper<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great first ep lads. Hail Victory<br />
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limble<br />
1 day ago<br />
Loved this interview. Tim already came across as a staunch and loyal dude but what a backstory.<br />
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johnnyfartbottoms<br />
1 day ago<br />
Awesome show, I&#8217;ve always wanted to learn about Tim&#8217;s story. He&#8217;s right about needing a warrior class in Australia.<br />
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AmalekAvenger<br />
1 day ago<br />
O/ o/<br />
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TimLutze<br />
1 day ago<br />
o/ o/<br />
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TheShowgun<br />
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1 day ago<br />
We want part 2! o/<br />
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AngloSaxon88<br />
2 days ago<br />
Hail from Scandinavia.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
2 days ago<br />
Hail<br />
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LeighStewy<br />
2 days ago<br />
Patriot<br />
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JohlForbes<br />
2 days ago<br />
Great first podcast Graham, not a bad first guest either haha. No in all seriousness very good and I enjoyed thoroughly. Tim&#8217;s an inspiring leader who speaks from the heart and leads from the front.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
2 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fc.png" alt="🙏🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> thanks brother<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Thanks Johl<br />
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bush_bash_boy<br />
2 days ago<br />
can&#8217;t find the video of the nsn rally interrupting the tranny story time, someone help.<br />
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kismet208<br />
2 days ago<br />
https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell/1528?single<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
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2 days ago<br />
https://t.me/timlutze2/136?single If you have telegram. If not let me know and I&#8217;ll see if I can find an alternative.<br />
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sixty5stoney<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Great podcast lads. Perfect idea to get all the guys on to tell their red pill and political journey to show the public that we are just regular men. Family men. Fathers, sons, brothers. Willing to say what we believe needs to be said for the sake of our people and our country. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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EnglandAwake<br />
2 days ago<br />
Good content. Keep at it brother.<br />
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greenyfromoz97<br />
2 days ago<br />
Good to see another new Natsoc podcast rising! Good to see, also bloody nice set design and production set up (curtains, chairs mic’s etc it reflects you really care) love to see it mate<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Thank you brother. I appreciate that. It will get better too. Thanks for watching. Part 2 is better imo. We get into the juicy stuff.<br />
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High_Energy_Nation<br />
2 days ago<br />
Brilliant stuff gents. When you are humanised, we win.<br />
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pozgaylia<br />
2 days ago<br />
That was amazing lads. Hail Victory!<br />
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2 days ago<br />
[Show low scored comment]<br />
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Dimma1313<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Awesome!<br />
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MonThirteen<br />
2 days ago<br />
Great chat. Didn’t know Tim grew up in St Albans, so did I.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
2 days ago<br />
Awesome. I&#8217;ll never forget were I came from.<br />
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MonThirteen<br />
2 days ago<br />
My mum only sold up there 2 years ago, it’s definitely not the place it used to be. We now live out in the country where there is less of the 3rd world rejects lol<br />
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squatmech<br />
2 days ago<br />
Hail NSN, Hail White Australia, this was an awesome first show.<br />
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esolily<br />
2 days ago<br />
An Irish Man!!! love the intro one of my favourite songs<br />
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Tadhg0003<br />
2 days ago<br />
Offaly good discussion!<br />
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Tadhg0003<br />
2 days ago<br />
A chara. We&#8217;re all one now.<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Couldn&#8217;t agree more my brother. No more brother wars. Like the crusades we must put aside our differences to fight side by side for the collective tribes of Europe. We can go back to the brotherly bickering later. First we need to save our countries and our peoples.<br />
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JoeyBato3<br />
2 days ago<br />
Hail Connolly and Lutze! Greetings from distant Canada.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
2 days ago<br />
Hail brother<br />
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whatthehehe<br />
2 days ago<br />
Patriots!<br />
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TimLutze<br />
3 days ago<br />
Thanks for having me on. I speak from the heart, I hope I have inspired more people to take up the fight. Hail Victory<br />
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KineticKelticKlansman<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Thanks for coming brother. Great first guest. Thanks for the support. Part 2 is even better.<br />
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88talk<br />
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2 days ago<br />
Your pronunciation of Ante Pavelic was perfect! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ed-1f1f7.png" alt="🇭🇷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />I loved hearing your story especially the Footscray connection. I grew up there and It&#8217;s a perfect tragic example of where we&#8217;re heading if the influx of Third Worlders continues. Thank you both so much. Looking forward to Part 2.<br />
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TimLutze<br />
2 days ago<br />
Za dom spremni!<br />
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88talk<br />
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2 days ago<br />
The St. Albans Croatian influence is so clear!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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basedvriloid<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hail the both of you lads, Hail White Australia<br />
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