Tim Murdoch: This is Tim Murdoch. You’re watching WhiteRabbitRadio live in Game Exotica, the interview series. We have on Blair Cottrell. He will be on hopefully for almost a whole show, but most likely only half a show because he’s on a phone and all these, I guess we can say foreign run convenience stores don’t have the right cord for him.

 

So his phones might run out of charge on us and probably will. So get your questions in. We’re here to talk about Joel Davis and things going on over in Australia. Joel can’t be on because of his crazy bail.

 

So how you doing, Blair?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m doing fine, man! It’s nice and early here. Not that early. What is it, like 8 o’ clock in the morning? But rolled out of bed, frantically searched for the local convenience stores with friendly local neighborhood Indians. Trying to find the Right charger cord. And I bought one not to let you guys down, but then it’s the wrong one. So we’re just gonna have to see how long this lasts.

 

But the reason I’m in a hotel is because a friend and I traveled from Melbourne to Sydney last night. It’s like a nine hour drive. Australia is a big country like America, but when you factor in the couple of stops to get fuel, it ends up being like 10 or 11 hours. And we did that to visit Joel. First time I’ve seen Joel since he’s been released from prison. Been released on bail about a week ago, just less than a week ago.

 

He’s got stacked of new charges on him. He was initially. If you guys don’t know the story, Joel’s someone I stream with down here. Joel Davis, political commentator and streamer from Australia. He was charged with offending a politician [Allegra Spender], harassing or offending a politician in a Telegram post for a comment he made in a Telegram post that was posted to his public channel. And he was held in isolation as a “national security threat” for the last four months. He was finally released on bail by a Supreme Court justice, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of New South Wales. But he had to pay a lot of money to get there. I think he raised maybe 40,000 from his supporters to get to that point to be released on bail from the Supreme Court. But I think he’s like down to his last 4,000 now.

 

So that’s how much it’s cost him just to get bail for a relatively not less than serious charge. It’s not really a serious charge. It typically carries a pretty low imprisonment rate. I think 6.5% of people that get charged with the same offense that Joel’s been charged with actually end up going to jail at all! So almost 95% of people that get charged with this don’t even go to jail at all! Joel hasn’t even been found guilty yet. He’s not even been convicted. He’s just been accused! But he was held in prison because he’s considered a “national security threat” due to his ideology and various opinions that he shares while he’s streaming.

 

So I had dinner with him last night, and he hasn’t changed at all! If anything, he’s, like, sharper and clearer and even more intelligent than he was before. It’s not surprising because when you sit in jail for a while, you’re removed from all of the petty distractions and the quote, unquote, “degeneracy” of normal society, and all you can really do is read and write. And when you do that for four months straight, you come out quite sharp and clear.

 

So, yeah, he’s in great spirits. He’s very happy to be home. Very grateful to everyone who supported him. He is. Everybody who made it possible for him to get bail, who pitched into the fundraiser. That was huge! But yeah, we had a good laugh. We had some food. He’s feeling good. So that’s where he’s at right now!

 

But he’s banned from the Internet.

 

The reason I have to speak for him, I guess, or update you guys, is Joel is banned from the Internet! Okay? He can’t even have a smartphone, guys. The judge has ruled that he has to have an old brick phone that can’t access the Internet. He’s allowed to access the Internet by computer, but he can’t post anything to social media. He can’t comment on anything, and he can’t have access to the Internet from his phone. Those are his bail conditions imposed by the Supreme Court Justice.

 

Tim Murdoch: Can we petition? Can I pay a lawyer to petition to get him on WhiteRabbitRadio? I wonder how funny that would be. How would that go?

 

Blair Cottrell: I doubt it.

 

Tim Murdoch: I think they’d probably throw him back in jail or something, right? Try to throw me in jail, maybe.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Tim Murdoch: But anyways. I think that’s kind of funny, though. Well, it’s funny that they’re going to that extreme, but they’re just trying to make an example out of him, and they did. Is there any precedents for trying to keep him off the Internet or denying his civil, … This is denying his Civil Liberties in a modern, …

 

Blair Cottrell: We don’t really have., …

 

Tim Murdoch: Denying him the public square. I mean, he can’t come on a radio show and talk about his case. He can’t have a smartphone and post to his Telegram. Even if he’s not violating, … Telegram is not illegal in Australia. It’s not illegal for him to post on Telegram. It’s just illegal for him to say certain things which they’re constantly trying not to specifically define.

 

[07:18]

 

Blair Cottrell: There is some precedent. Look, this demonstrates the bail conditions imposed on Joel basically being banned from the Internet because the accusation against him stems from a post made on the Internet.

 

And so while the matter is still active and a conviction is yet to be found bail conditions preventing him from using the Internet. This kind of thing demonstrates the disparity between Australia and America. We don’t have Civil Liberties. We don’t have free speech rights down here. Like, so no one has the rights to be criticizing any government official, really. As long as you’re not being overly belligerent. You might be able to, but depending on the language you used, you can be charged with menacing or harassing or maybe something else. It’s getting quite tight down here, especially in recent years. But there’s been a significant shift in the past six months or so.

 

I mean, last year, after our most significant or our worst terror attack in the country’s history occurred on Bondi beach in New South Wales, a couple of Muslim characters opened fire on people on a beach specifically targeting jewish people. I think it was at a jewish festival of some sort. It’s like certain government bureaucrats were so disappointed that the shooters weren’t White guys that they just unleashed on Joel Davis! It’s like the Eye of Sauron was just completely focused on Joel Davis. And Joel’s, like, really surprised by it. When we were eating dinner last night, he was laughing! He’s like:

 

“How is this real? Like, I just posted one thing to Telegram and I’m being treated worse than the actual terrorist who shot those guys on the beach. I’ve been banned from the Internet!”

 

He’s almost struggling. He’s laughing at it, but he’s almost struggling to wrap his head around the logistics of it. And it doesn’t actually make sense.

 

So there is some precedent for people being restricted from using the Internet in a certain way if their accusation relates to something on the Internet in Australia. But the major point to consider is its very different from America. Here, basically, you can be just held indefinitely while your matter is being argued without any proof of guilt. You’re essentially guilty until you try to pay enough to prove yourself innocent. You know, so the whole concept of “innocent until proven guilty”, it exists in legal theory, but in practice it doesn’t exist because you get accused of something and then you sit in jail until the matter is finalized in court, until you pay enough money to prove your innocence, or do a deal and get out somehow.

 

So that’s how it really works.

 

Tim Murdoch: He can talk with his friends, he can talk with you and go to dinner with you. Not a problem. What he’s restricted from like former NSN because that’s been disbanded. For instance, if Tom comes and sees him, can he see Tom?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m pretty sure he can, but the thing is, Tom has also been charged with a number of offenses which confine him to his state. And Joel resides in a different state right now, the neighboring state.

 

So you can’t cross state boundaries legally while you’re on bail for these offenses. And Joel can’t leave the state either.

 

Tim Murdoch: They basically have to have their cases done with, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: Correct. Yeah. So they can move through states freely again. And that’s very standard for any sort of indictable criminal offense for which you’re on bail. You’re not supposed to leave the state without permission. So technically they could call the police and say:

 

“Look, I want to go interstate to visit my friend and come straight back. Can I do that?”

 

But it just comes down to the whim of some police bureaucrat whether or not you can actually do that.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. Not a free country! But none of us live in a free country. Just some more than others at the moment, maybe. When does this, how long. What is the next step for him? How long will this take before he can get to court? Because now he’s released on bail. But the matters are still pending. These guys have all kinds of matters pending, technically, I guess.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. While Joel was in what’s called Long Bay Jail, New South Wales, in isolation, being held without conviction as a national security risk, he was hit with something like nine other charges, or more than that.

 

I can’t remember what he said. There’s a whole bunch of other charges.

 

Tim Murdoch: Are they more or less serious charges? I remember this, but when it comes to these Australia charges these charges are serious, but they’re not doing it. I mean, these guys really aren’t doing anything! They’re just hitting crazy charges over Telegram posts or crazy charges for getting into an argument with the shitlibs or it’s just total insanity!

 

But nonetheless, the charges are there and the charges are very serious on the books. And the police treat them like these are major criminal offenses and terrorists and so on and so forth.

 

Blair Cottrell: Typically, for this kind of thing, the police wouldn’t usually get out of bed for something like what Joel posted on Telegram, it’s just because of his ideology. And that was more or less admitted by the court system in the magistrates level of court, which is a lower level of a state court in Australia. Magistrates were just like:

 

“Look, usually bail would apply, but because of his ideological connections and the sensitivity around that, given this recent terror attack, he needs to be held in prison.”

 

Basically. That’s what they were essentially saying.

 

But look, all of the charges that Joel has, I think there’s beyond nine of them right now! Nine or ten or maybe even more. They’re all in relation to streaming. Okay. They’re from things. I think he has six charges from one stream! From the things he said about other ethnic groups.

 

[13:05]

 

Tim Murdoch: These are streams with you? These are streams with Americans or you don’t know?

 

Blair Cottrell: Stream with me. Yeah, well, it was just a stream out of Australia with me. The one in question. The’s being charged with a number of offenses relating to “inciting contempt or revulsion of a specific class of people”, which is relatively new legislation under Australia’s Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

 

Tim Murdoch: This is saying something about jews, probably.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, one I think is comments about jewish people. One is about Indian people and the other is about black people.

 

And all of the comments, there’s like six different charges I think, if my memory serves me right. But I know he’s definitely been charged a bunch of times in relation to one stream. And here’s the thing man, and this is what’s super interesting.

 

You probably heard Nick Fuentes have a crack at Joel and say:

 

“He’s just a Wignat. This was always going to happen to this guy. What an idiot! Whatever.”

 

But Joel has been charged for essentially being a groiper and streaming, like doing exactly what Nick Fuentes does.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, but he’s in Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s been charged for what he’s saying in streams, and then directing his followers to criticize politicians on X. He’s been charged with doing the same thing. Americans have the freedom to do this apparently, but we don’t.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, Nick actually said something that over his sentencing after the fact. But nonetheless, he can be on all sides of the ball, depending on who’s on his nerves on any given day.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think Nick’s great value. When he initially, his comments were:

 

“Oh, this was always going to happen to Joel!”

 

But I think when you look at the charges, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Liek:

 

“The charge this is bullshit!”

 

Or something. I forget what he said.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s bullshit when you look at the charges. Initially, you’re like:

 

“Okay, Joel was pretty loose!”

 

Everyone can agree that Joel was pretty loose. He was going pretty hard.

 

When you look at what he’s actually being charged with doing. What he’s actually being charged for doing is basically the same thing that Nick does for a living. And you’re like:

 

“What? Hang on, it doesn’t., …”

 

Like I said, it demonstrates the difference legally between Australia and America, and it demonstrates how important it is to have legislation, constitutional rights to freedom of speech, because this is what happens when you don’t have that.

 

Tim Murdoch: Fascinating. So how long will this take before all this particular case is over with and all these other cases. What’s the lineup like?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d imagine he’s got 12 to 18 months of court appearances, but his next move will be to, at his own convenience, try to get all of the charges heard in bulk in one or two matters, so he doesn’t have to go to court for every single different offense.

 

Tim Murdoch: It’s all the same.

 

Blair Cottrell: Otherwise. It’s just too, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Him running his mouth. It’s all the same stuff. Him live streaming and talking.

 

Blair Cottrell: And there’s the Telegram post, which is a different category of offending, but similar still. And there’s a bunch of other offenses in relation to other things he said. He’s even being charged in relation to private messages he’s had. Because when the police. This is what I forgot to mention. When the police arrested him, the Federal Police, they took his phone, they went through everything, and he’s been making jokes with friends in private conversations that he’s been charged for. Like, literal private conversations that were never public. Because he’s mentioned people specifically in some of those, like, comments, which was all in jest mostly because when you’re talking to the boys, you think it’s private. You say stuff. You say stuff that you don’t think other people would see. But the police have gone through all of it. And he’s got charges in relation to private DMs as well.

 

Tim Murdoch: That’s, its such bullshit! None of these politicians could hold up to those standards. And it’s absurd! But nonetheless, it’s something he’s going through. I remember his fundraiser. I remember putting up and his fundraiser was doing well. Does he have enough money for court? You guys have some good lawyers these days compared to like 10 years ago.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, 10 years ago I was relying on the sympathy, … When I was charged with “hate speech”, I was relying on the sympathy of one lawyer, one lawyer slash barrister, like performing two roles. And I paid him as much as I could, but it was never quite enough. These days there’s a lot more resources available, there’s a lot more sympathy internationally. And the lawyers that Joel has access to, the barrister he used at the Supreme Court, all very professional, top tier stuff. And having access to that for him right now is like indispensable!

 

Tim Murdoch: Plus, there was no such thing as, like GiveSendGo or anything like that, back in the day. There was no crypto.

 

Blair Cottrell: Shout out to GiveSendGo too, by the way. Like just standing strong in the face of all the pressure they must receive from governments around the world and saying:

 

“Look, we believe in free speech. If these people want to raise money, they’re not doing anything illegal. They can raise money.”

 

Like most platforms, most fundraiser platforms would not do that. So GiveSendGo, they’re top notch.

 

[18:26]

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I haven’t checked out his fundraiser. I’m assuming it’s still going or I know he hit his goal. That’s all I remember.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think maybe he was saying to me last night that he’s nearly spent at all! Just to get bail.

 

Tim Murdoch: I would imagine.

 

Blair Cottrell: But, I don’t know the details of when he goes to court next and what’s going to be necessary. So once that is known, I’ll help get the information out there and we’ll see what we can do to keep helping him.

 

Tim Murdoch: Okay. And Tom as well. Right. And who else? I know that there’s other guys charged, correct?

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, there’s a bunch of guys with a bunch of charges. I don’t even know how many. I think the point, obviously is you’re probably understanding Tim. I think the point is just to bog you down.

 

The point is like to just throw this hooked net, this hooked net of just legal nonsense over you that you get entangled in for years. You spend your energy on it, you spend your money on it. And that just kind of holds you back from activism, politics and what you really care about. And that’s the way the Australian government deals with its dissidents.

 

Tim Murdoch: The “process is the punishment”, as they say over here. That’s the whole entire deal. You might get off because it’s all bullshit, but you’re going to have to go through money and it’s all big pain in the ass.

 

Hopefully everyone comes out smarter and more clever. But nonetheless, it sounds like he’s in good spirits. And now this particular program where you can’t be on a smartphone or anything like that, that’ll continue until that particular or trial is over?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the intent generally, because he has 20 bail conditions, I think, that’s more bail conditions than I’ve ever heard anyone having! Even like the worst criminals don’t get that. I think that the Supreme Court Justice probably just wanted to demonstrate that she was taking everything seriously. She wasn’t just releasing him willy nilly. She wanted to demonstrate to the (((right people))) that she still considers him very threatening. Whatever.

 

Tim Murdoch: Why did he have to be released to his mother and not his wife and kid?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, this is the funny, this is a weird thing. He’s been banned from Bondi, where his partner lives. And that’s public knowledge now because the media, like doxed her ages ago and, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Right.

 

Blair Cottrell: Literally took a photo on there. Yeah, she was coming out the front of her house. They literally was waiting for her, taking a photo, which I don’t know how that’s legal, is that stalking? The media seems to be able to do whatever they want here. So I don’t know.

 

Tim Murdoch: She’s being a public person now. But they do celebrities. Where there is no decorum, there is no decency in the societies we live in anymore.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a good way to put it. Right. And that’s how it feels, definitely!

 

But in Bondi, that’s where the terror attack happened against members of the jewish community. And because of Joel’s public statements considered anti-semitic and because there’s a considerable population of jewish people living in Bondi, that seems to be the reason he’s been banned from that whole suburb. He can’t go to that suburb!

 

Despite the fact that his partner and child live there. And that was his previous residence. That’s where he lived as well. He can’t go home. He’s not allowed to go there because jews live there!

 

Tim Murdoch: Can they come and see him? Can they come to his mother?

 

Blair Cottrell: They can visit him, but I think it’s like an hour’s drive or something, so there’s a bit of a distance to travel. But they have visited him regularly since he’s been out. He’s building a relationship with his son:

 

“My son seems to like me. He’s happy when I hold him.”

 

Is what Joel said:

 

“You know, my son likes me.”

 

So that’s good news. It was just good to see him last night Tim. He’s happy. He’s the same old Joel, but kind of sharper and more energetic than ever!

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I know that when he first got in, it was really bad! Right. Did he have any stories from jail that he told you?

 

Blair Cottrell: So many! Too many to get into. It was really funny because even though he’s in isolation, he’s in isolation with other guys in other cells who can all talk to each other through the vents and the walls.

 

Tim Murdoch: Okay.

 

Blair Cottrell: And so, yeah, he met some very interesting characters. Very funny stories. Probably the funniest thing that I could share without stepping on any toes or upsetting anybody. I didn’t know this. I assumed that when Joel was arrested by the Federal Police in Australia, when he was arrested, he was arrested at a cafe while he was eating breakfast. And because it was just down the road from where his partner lives, I assumed that his partner was at the cafe with him.

 

But that wasn’t the case. He said to his girlfriend, who was due to give birth to their baby the next day, he said:

 

“Babe, I’m going to get breakfast. I’ll see you later!”

 

And he never came back! [chuckling] The day before his girlfriend was due. So she was probably sitting at home thinking:

 

“Has he ditched me? What the fuck?”

 

The timing of that [chuckling] was really ironic and funny. Like when he told the story.

 

[23:40]

 

Tim Murdoch: I remember him getting arrested. I didn’t know it was a restaurant. I didn’t know where it was at. I just remember seeing him getting arrested, the picture. I wonder what he was eating that morning?

 

Blair Cottrell: And I think even the cafe owner made a comment to the media, because the media rushed into the cafe, the breakfast cafe, and asked a bunch of questions and even asked:

 

“What was he eating?”

 

I think he was eating smashed avocado on toast. That was his last meal. That was his last meal! But look like credit where credit’s due. The police actually went, Joel said:

 

“Can you at least tell my girlfriend what’s happened? Because she’s going to think I just ran away!”

 

So [chuckling] the police actually went and knocked on the door and said:

 

“Yo, just so you know, we arrested your boyfriend. That’s why he’s not coming home.”

 

Tim Murdoch: It seemed like the media was there as he was arrested, which is kind of shady. They must have known about it or something. Or did they?

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t think so. I think the footage of him being arrested comes from police body cam footage. Okay, maybe. I think they all have cameras on their chests and these days it’s part of procedure to actually document high profile arrests and stuff like that. So I think that’s where that footage came from. And the media rushed there after the fact.

 

Tim Murdoch: Fascinating. Okay, did he have any words of advice? Is he full of advice and knowledge now?

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s definitely acknowledging that there’s a shift in what is going to be possible in Australian political discourse in the future. Okay, that’s probably the best advice. He hasn’t given any advice directly, but this is what I’m projecting to you guys as what I think is probably the best advice given the situation. Joel’s acknowledging pretty much openly that the stuff they were doing before, stuff him and the NSN were doing, the kind of activism they were doing, has essentially been made a “hate crime”. It’s illegal now to openly criticize the jewish community is basically illegal in Australia now. You can’t do that.

 

And so you need to approach discourse in a way that appreciates that new reality. And Joel’s acknowledging that, everyone’s acknowledging that’s why the NSN has disbanded, to prevent their members from going to jail for 10 years for being a member of a hate group.

 

So that chapter of the NSN, the way it was, is done. And a new chapter in Australian political discourse is opening. But what that’s going to look like isn’t clear yet because the laws that have been imposed are so extreme, no one’s sure what’s going to be allowed and what’s not. And it’s going to come down to the whim of political bureaucrats.

 

Tim Murdoch: Sounds like a bunch of bullshit, that’s for sure! Let me get to a Superchat because this one’s for you, actually:

 

“Happy to hear of Joel’s release.”

 

Thank you White Bitch Triple Six. What a handle she has, eh? See what we’ve got here. Okay, up here:

 

“Happy to hear of his release. Hope him and his family, …”

 

Let me get this right here:

 

“Hope him and his family are doing well despite these bogus charges. Wondering if Blair does one on one fitness consultations. I would pay for an hour of his fitness wisdom.”

 

Actually, I think you have something going down that particular line. You’re lining up websites and stuff like that and that’s something you do know about, but go ahead.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, thanks for asking. I do provide. That’s what I do to support myself. And I think I’m pretty good at it. I can basically solve your problems in that regard. And I try to offer a lot more than most people do and I’m very pretty passionate about that. You’ll have to DM me on either Telegram or Instagram at the moment because I’m still setting up a more convenient way for contact. And that’s nearly finished.

 

But if you’re keen to get onto it straight away, just send me a DM on Telegram. It’s at Blair Cottrell. Just my full name. Or you can find me through my main channel, which is at Real Blair Cottrell. And that’s what I do. I help people burn fat and build muscle. I’ve been doing it a while.

 

Tim Murdoch: You can also email me White Bitch Triple six, since I know who you are and I will put up his information because I have all of it. I’ll send it back to you in an email if you didn’t get any of that or you need to know how to get a hold of him. I’ll try to hook you two up.

 

But yeah, that’s what he does. But go ahead, finish.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s fine. I appreciate it, Tim. Cheers. That’s basically. There’s not a lot more to say.

 

But before the show started, you were asking me about Ben Roberts Smith, the veteran who was recently arrested. That’s a big deal in Australia too, guys! Like this is like a huge deal! This guy Ben Robert Smith, if you don’t know, he’s like a 6 foot 7 chad, Special Forces SAS, Australian army veteran who in Afghanistan was basically responsible for rescuing his colleagues, which he was very good at doing. He’s known for storming significant numbers of enemy troops on his own and somehow winning! This guy’s like basically being hailed as a war hero ever since the war in Afghanistan. There’s certain situations where Australian troops were betrayed by members of the local army or police who offered to kill them in exchange for doing a deal with the Taliban at the time. And they were pinned down by enemy fire, they were betrayed, they were murdered in their sleep. And Ben Robert Smith was the guy who hunted those guys down to save any colleagues that had been captured or pinned down.

 

[29:18]

 

Tim Murdoch: He was in some type of anti-terror squad?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think SAS is kind of like a Special Forces or like a more serious, … I don’t know exactly! Tom Sewell would be much better explaining.

 

Tim Murdoch: I can tell you what the problem was in Afghanistan is that there was a continuous issue on the rules of engagement, where someone could fire at you, throw a grenade at you, throw a bomb at you, or do something like that. Then they would make sure the village they were hiding in they would drop the gun, run back to the village. They would basically make sure that they were unarmed at all times because you couldn’t really do anything with an unarmed individual. It became like a police operation for a lot of different guys. But there was various different teams hunting these guys down. Yeah, playing these games. It was very nasty!

 

Blair Cottrell: It was. And that’s the thing. Basically the Australian army was in Afghanistan supposed to be hunting terrorists, terror networks, members of terror cell groups, but they basically had an arm tied behind their back and their feet bound at most cases. Like they couldn’t actually do their job properly because the rules of engagement kept changing. You just described it in a great way. They would like fire on Australian soldiers, then drop their rifles and act like they were just citizens.

 

Tim Murdoch: Well, this was a problem. This is a problem with my friends that were there from America. So no, this is what they were doing. They were feathering or floating the rules of engagement, terrorists were to make sure that:

 

“Well, they can’t kill me because I’m unarmed.”

 

When they just basically killed one of their friends, you know, an hour for something like that they were constantly playing these games where they became a policing operation. You have to go in and fingerprint them and try to prove the crime. It was a fucking mess, it wasn’t a war, basically.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look the big drama is one of our war heroes from that time, from that era, from Afghanistan. The main one who became a bit of an icon was Ben Robert Smith. But there’s this huge, complex investigation that’s taken place behind the scenes, headed up by I think a combination of media and the Australian Federal Police, they’ve like sent people over to Afghanistan to try to get statements to use against their own soldiers. And the name Ben Robert Smith, that’s the one they kept targeting. There was a defamation case initially against media bureaucrats, specifically a journalist named Nick McKenzie who called Ben Robert Smith a war criminal without evidence. So Ben Robert Smith took him to court and said:

 

“That’s slander, I’m not a war criminal, I’ve got all these medals, what the hell?”

 

But the courts ruled in the favor of the media and they said:

 

“Well look, it could be true, so we don’t know the truth, so it’s not slander.”

 

So it’s like it basically just demonstrates that journalists can say whatever they want about anyone in Australia without any real basis. But now, a year or two after that finding, he’s actually been charged with five war crimes. With apparently either shooting people or commanding his comrades to shoot people who weren’t actually soldiers, weren’t Taliban or weren’t connected. That’s the accusation.

 

But this is the thing, guys, whether he’s guilty or not isn’t really what matters. What matters is the ripple effect that this has on our sense of national pride, the trust our soldiers have in each other and in our government and military, the willingness to actually join the military and go fight for the country. All of that gets pole-axed. That gets steamrolled now by the fact that they can’t even feel confident to go and kill their enemies to do what they’re trying to do without being thrown in jail for life for it when they come back. Because that’s a war crime! That’s the kind of feeling that this is created.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. When I first heard it, I thought it was like ICC. I thought it was going to be a big international deal. Then I looked and I’m like:

 

“Holy shit, they’re bringing him up on charges inside of Australia!”

 

This is like some kind of shitlib ordeal, where they actually put up billboards and had advertisements over in Afghanistan for testimony and stuff like that you know, they’re like drumming stuff up!

 

It is somewhat unprecedented now, I assume, because a lot of these guys from my experience, aren’t necessarily on our side. In fact, the ones I know I would kind of consider assholes. [chuckling] You know, our societies are heavily degraded. These guys aren’t necessarily hugs and cupcakes or nice individuals. Many of them you could describe as Zogbots to a certain extent. “Rah, rah”, you know, patriots. But they would line us up against the wall as well if ordered by the government. What is his politics like? Is he being targeted for political reasons or is he targeted because he’s just a military icon and they’re trying to degrade a famous White military icon? You know what is the deal? Because he’s on their side.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like most soldiers he probably doesn’t have politics. And even if he does, it doesn’t matter! When you’re a soldier, you don’t have politics. You’re [government] property!

 

Tim Murdoch: Right, true.

 

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Blair Cottrell: So that’s like the way I see it. Even if the charges aren’t political, they might as well be, as I explained just then, because they really have a dramatic negative impact on our sense of pride as Australians and our trust that our army members of the Australian Defence Force have in our government and each other. It just makes people not want to fight for this country and not want to take this government seriously.

 

Tim Murdoch: I didn’t mean to interrupt you, but in America that’s already happened long ago. So I’m taking it, this is like we’ve got upset veterans handing in medals. You guys have never had anything like this before where people are saying:

 

“You know, fuck this! I’m not fighting for this government!”

 

This is like the next stage from Covid Covid was a big trust hammer in Australia. This is another thing that’s really putting the nail in the coffin, so to speak?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Like you said, there’s been really good articles put out there by Noticer News, which is huge source of news. Really good source of news in Australia. Probably the best source we have down here in Australia. And they just did a story I think yesterday or the day before, and war veterans all over the country are handing in their medals in disgust that the government has gone after this guy just for following orders, for being one of our best soldiers.

 

Tim Murdoch: It is years after the fact and you’re putting up advertisement. It’s years after the fact. It’s not like you’re dealing with fresh off Afghanistan and ICC charge or some type of formal investigation. Formal charge that this guy was doing really shitty things or unbecoming of an officer, so on, so forth, etc.

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! Why now? What’s the point of this?

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. Years after the fact doesn’t make any sense.

 

Blair Cottrell: When something like this happens to him, like who benefits? What is Australia getting out of hunting or targeting its own soldiers? For, like, historical war crimes that probably didn’t even happen. And even if they did, where, … Let me ask you this question. Where’s the Taliban? The government there that’s still in place now. Where are they charging their soldiers with war crimes?

 

Tim Murdoch: They don’t give a fuck!

 

Blair Cottrell: Who are they investigating?

 

Tim Murdoch: They don’t have our standards. They don’t have our moral standards.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what I’m saying, right? The Talibani government would never drag its own soldiers who did commit war crimes! There’s no doubt about it. It’s well documented. They’ll celebrate them as heroes! They’re doing the opposite. Right. So that just goes to show, …

 

Tim Murdoch: We’ve always had a very high standard for soldiers and soldier behavior. This is just years after the fact. This is Australia advertising they wanted to do this. And they’re doing it inside of Australia. And it all just doesn’t. I mean, hey, maybe he’s a piece of shit, Zogbot? Maybe he said, “kill all Nazis”. Whatever. I don’t know anything about the guy. But he’s being, you know, railroaded, giving the White nationalist treatment, as what I call it, really. And it’s all inside of Australia, and they’re kind of like, okay, you know, he killed a guy and drank out of his prosthetic or something like that. Well, why are they waiting so long if he’s doing all these terrible things?

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! It’s like, why now? Who benefits? What’s going on here? What’s the point? Is it really just bureaucratic procedure that took ages to roll around? And if that’s the case, it’s kind of female coded.

 

Because if you’re fighting a war and you’re holding yourself to certain standards of war crimes where you can’t actually even kill your enemies when they’re there, but your enemy’s not doing that, well, it’s no wonder we didn’t win that war. Right? But what was even the point?

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know. But there’s this thing going on right now that’s the new head of the AFP. I think her name’s, [Krissy Barrett] I can’t remember her name. That’s that woman.

 

Tim Murdoch: It’s obviously political. This is the thing. We’re in a heavily degraded society, as I always say, and it affects everyone. And there is a problem of behavior amongst a percentage of Whites, especially in charge, especially in positions of power.

 

But there’s also a huge problem in this case of a White woman who obviously is targeting this guy, you know, would this be happening if it wasn’t for her? I don’t know. Seems like?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, there’s this weird shift. There’s all these new task forces that are being created in Australia, specifically within the Australian Federal Police. There’s like, Task Force Against Anti-semitism, a task force to Promote Social Cohesion by targeting racism.

 

And all of that’s come about, Tim, in the last six to eight months. This is all really new stuff. So there’s these new like, it’s almost like the AFP was quietly overthrown. I mean, this is just speculation, but it was quietly overthrown.

 

And now it’s in the hands of someone. I don’t know, someone with hostile intentions. Because it’s like it’s being turned into a political police. And it happened very suddenly. It’s weird! I can’t explain it at this stage. All I know is that Australia is changing rapidly! It’s targeting its own citizens, its own veterans, its own people, to the benefit of (((foreign lobby groups))), foreign nations often and historically hostile to Australia.

 

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Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I saw one particular piece from the Daily Mail and the quotes were, … You know, they were analyzing, these particular departments and whatnot were analyzing all his tattoos. And he has a Christian cross tattoo, or we’re calling a crusader tattoo.

 

Blair Cottrell: That was a patch. Yeah, he had a patch. This is Ben Roberts Smith, the soldier who’s been charged. There’s this famous photo of him which was allegedly taken immediately after he just charged in against superior numbers and rescued a bunch of his comrades under heavy fire.

 

And as he’s walking away from that battle, he has a crusader knight’s cross patch, like a red Christian cross on a White shield. But the media in Australia edits the Christian cross out of the photo before they publish it in order not to offend Muslims or offend anyone who might not like that.

 

I mean, that just goes to show where we’re at! If there’s that level of political censorship happening in media, then it’s not unreasonable to assume that he’s being targeted for political reasons. That’s why he’s been accused of war crimes.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. They’re targeting Whites across the board, and he’s obviously a symbol and they’re going after him for that particular reason.

 

I mean, there might be something legitimate. I’m not going to say that the guy’s perfect. I don’t know anything about him. He might be evil. [chuckling] There are some badass veterans in the US Army that I wouldn’t want to live near, that’s for sure. So you never know! We don’t know anything about him. But what I think is shitty is that if he’s doing something and it’s that over the top and there’s all these charges, why are they waiting so long, and why are they doing it with inside of Australia, like they’re doing it?

 

So I don’t know. And putting advertisements, putting up advertisements?

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s appeals to Afghanistanis, … There are more Afghanistanis living in Australia now, who have come from Afghanistan recently who have served in the army. Right. Because they have to over. There are more of them living here now than they, than the amount of Australian soldiers that were ever in Afghanistan.

 

So it’s like we have this fifth column and what the government’s doing and the police, they’re putting out advertisements appealing to those people in Australia saying:

 

“Hey, if you have any information about Ben Roberts Smith or any other soldier doing something mean or wrong to you, come and report it to us. And we’ll put it into our investigation.”

 

So it’s mind boggling! It’s like, how is this real? How is this happening?

 

Tim Murdoch: This is within the military, the confines of the military justice system of Australia. Correct? Or is it outside of the bounds of that? Because they have these laws on the books, war crime laws on the books and I don’t even know how old they are. Australia has these laws on the books that they can go after soldiers for war crimes regardless of the international law or anything like that it’s just kind of like internal to Australia. Now there’s always been a court martialing and stuff like that in America and behavior unbecoming of an officer and so on and so forth, et cetera. We have a military court of law here, but I don’t understand how it’s going over into civilian. I guess I don’t really know Australian courts.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s definitely an Australia internal thing, because it’s the Australian Federal Police that are leading the investigation. But they’re not really confined to the borders of Australia geographically. Like I said, they’ll send cops and investigators over to Afghanistan to get information from former Taliban fighters about Australian soldiers so they can go home and prosecute their own soldiers. I just think we need, regardless of this guy made some mistakes. I don’t care! This guy went to fight a war in another country against the enemy. That’s what he’s trained to do! And we need to stand with our own, even if they do make mistakes sometimes. It was easy to make mistakes in an environment where your enemy isn’t abiding by any specific rules of engagement. I’m not even saying he did make mistakes. I don’t know. I wasn’t there. The cops certainly weren’t there.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I’m not interested in trusting the advice of Afghanis that you’re soliciting, that are known liars, that they’re soliciting advice from. We have to see the evidence. But I just don’t like the way they’re doing this years after the fact. If he’s that much of a bad apple as they’re suggesting, you should have easily done something when he committed these acts because supposedly this is like known stuff and he’s a bad actor and he’s this big asshole and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Why are you waiting so long? And why are they having to solicit anything? Shouldn’t you have collected evidence right then and court martialed him or whatever? That’s normally what happens.

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! But look, guys, this is just what we’re going through down here in Australia.

 

I’m sorry to check out early, but my phone’s about to die. I’m just gonna give you guys the warning before it does. And like, look, we did kind of like a spontaneous drive up to visit Joel and have dinner with him last night. And so that’s why I’m like in disarray. I’d usually go sit with you guys for a bit longer. Yeah, thanks, Tim, for having me on. And thanks for the questions. Maybe in a couple of weeks or whenever you’re free again, we could say may, I could see up Tom Sewell. He could come on and he, Tom Sewell would be excellent at explaining the Ben Robert Smith Australian army situation because he spent a couple of years in battalion as a soldier. He has much more inside knowledge about how things really work.

 

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Tim Murdoch: What blew me away is they’re doing this outside of the military, … Well, I don’t know how Australian military works, but they’re doing it, … I mean this is something that happened in a war, but they’re doing it outside military court of law, which I think is pretty crazy! But and they have their own little war crime, their own little war crime ordeal.

 

But anyways, I appreciate it, Blair, for coming on and being a good sport. Guys, I’m going to let’s see what I’m going to do here. Hang out here a couple minutes and look what’s going on in the chat. I thought he’d be on a couple hours obviously, but his phone ran out and what are you going to do when your phone runs out?

 

But this case is one to watch. It’s definitely a political trial. We’ll have to see what evidence there is and why they waited so long. It all stinks to me. But we do appreciate Blair coming on. His phone ran out and he had the wrong cord.

 

Let me see what you guys are saying here. Yeah, it sounds like Joel’s doing quite well. He’s doing okay. Bo Nilson, thank you very much for the sub. But I’ll stay around a couple minutes. Let me cruise around and see what’s going on and then I’ll let you guys go. And for the weekend I’ll be back on Sunday. Yeah, I’ll get those guys on again soon. I’ll get Tom Sewell on again. I have on Warren Balogh but I’ll try to get on Tom Sewell or I’m trying to think of who else. You know, Tom I think was in the military. So.

 

But anyways, I appreciate you guys tuning in and supporting the show. I will be back Sunday. I was planning on doing a two hour show with Blair but nonetheless these things do happen. We do appreciate him being a good sport and coming on for 45 minutes. I was hoping he’d make it on at least an hour but he got close. But I do appreciate it guys and I guess I’m going to go ahead and let you guys go. You guys have a wonderful Friday evening and Saturday and I’ll be back on Sunday same time, same place, about 5:30 PM. Need we’ll talk about everything going on. I know they’re meeting with, … Let’s go over to Drudge. What’s up? Crafty Booms. I know they’re meeting on, … Trump’s vowing complete decimation of Iran. They’re meeting with Iran tomorrow in Pakistan.

 

Okay, so get this. They’re meeting with Iran in Pakistan and Did Do Nothing Replay, bro:

 

“Catching live. Great show. Thanks for what you do, sir.”

 

Well, thank you for support. We got Crafty Booms. Thank you 14 for the 88. I do appreciate it. I appreciate you guys generosity.

 

But this whole entire Iran situation is not over with. It’s not over with. It might die down for a bit. But why Pakistan? Pakistan arranged the meeting. There’s a few different theories on it. They’re a Muslim country. It’s kind of like they’re not in the war and they arranged the ceasefire. Or maybe Trump, through a back channel, had it. I think what they’re trying to do is stall for a period of time to build up enough forces to try another angle. They’re not going to be happy, they being Israel, is not going to be happy until the IRGC, the current regime in Iran, is gone.

 

So they’re going to keep going at it, and they’re going to obviously stall by time, until they can degrade that regime enough and kill enough of them. What they keep doing, obviously, is killing the elites they’re meeting with. So really, how are you going to meet with them anywhere if you’re killing them other than a situation like this? I mean, Pakistan escorted the jet from Pakistan, when it flew into Pakistan’s airspace. The jet containing the Iranian dignitaries and Iranian authorities, negotiating authorities in Pakistan.

 

I mean, the Israelis just keep on killing. And so Israel is supposed to be backing down in Lebanon, but of course, Israel let loose, what, 100 bombs in 10 minutes, dropped 100 bombs, missiles in 10 minutes and totally destroyed Lebanon. It’s just insanity! So Pakistan was a neutral player and they’re trying to, … There’s probably more explanation than that. But the Iranians can’t go just anywhere and meet just anywhere. They just can’t. Because everywhere they pop up, the Israelis kill them.

 

So, I think what Trump wants to do is build up a force to break them another way or maybe take oil or do something. He’s pulling something! The Iranians so far haven’t trusted anything, though. They don’t trust the Americans at all! Let’s see what Field Marshall has to say:

 

“Thanks for getting our Blair on. Hi, Joel. Thanks. Good luck, everything. Congrats to you and yours. The birth of your first child. Done.”

 

Thank you very much, Field Marshal. I do appreciate it. And when Joel can come on, he’ll be on, that’s for sure. I guess he has to get back on Telegram first and get these cases over with. We’ll see.

 

Yeah, I don’t know. There’s like a long explanation on why they did Pakistan and there’s a few conspiracies about it. But the Iranians. Who are you going to trust if you’re Iranian? So now the negotiating team. The negotiating team is JD Vance and it’s Trump’s son-in-law and it’s the main negotiator. Hold on here.

 

Okay. Daily Signal:

 

“I’ll see Vance to lead the negotiating team.”

 

Yeah, we’ve got like four or five guys in the negotiating team. See here, Steve Witkoff. Yeah. Jared Kushner. They’re both going to be there with J.D. Vance.

 

[52:17]

 

But there’s a fourth as well. I want to say maybe it’s Ambassador to Pakistan. Pakistan has four dignitaries there. Pakistan sets modest goal. Let’s look at Al Jazeera:

 

“Pakistan sets goal. A deal to keep talks going.”

 

They want to keep conversations going. The problem with this particular war so far, one of the reasons that I think the English speaking world elite and sections of Europe really don’t give a shit is that it hurts the BRICS. It really hurts the developing countries. That has become very clear. The developing countries, the BRICS countries are being hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which is kind of an interesting thing because Trump doesn’t like the BRICS countries.

 

But one of the side effects is they are hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and only 15 tankers a day can get through. So the whole entire situation actually hurts the BRICS countries, which I find intriguing. They’re the ones suffering the most.

 

And so that’s probably one of the reasons behind it as well. Pakistan, developing countries. You know, these guys are all like:

 

“We’ve got to stop this war if we can.”

 

The Iranians, supposedly, what they’re saying is they’ve come a long ways in agreeing to various different things, supposedly, but I don’t know. Well, Iran doesn’t want to look like a bad guy internationally. They don’t want to play into the bad guy role. They’re not the aggressor. They’re defending their country, they’re defending their homeland. If Pakistan [Iran] would have shut down the Strait of Hormuz any other time, all hell would have broke loose. The whole entire international community would have came down on Iran and probably removed them somehow some way. But because of the way it happened, No one could really blame Iran. The blame would go to Israel, against Israel in the United States.

 

And Iran has the upper hand and they don’t want to lose that, which is very clever of them. They basically have been playing it very well. They’ve been doing a bang up job in handling themselves so far. I don’t think they’re going to make any mistakes. But they’re going to have to be ready to fight to the death, there’s no doubt about that. Because they’re not going to be happy until they get they get the particular uranium. They don’t want them to have nukes. And Trump wants to send them back to the Stone Age. He’s saying that again. He vows complete decimation and ceasefire warning to Tehran.

 

Now I am guessing he’s saying a lot of this shit just to get them to the table because this is hurting the American economy. But I do know in the back of everyone’s head these guys at the top don’t like the BRICs and they want a way to harm the BRICs. Having the Strait of Hormuz shut down harms the BRICS countries, more than anyone else. You know, the Chinese are prepared, the US is prepared more than most. Europe’s got issues, but the BRICS really has issues, that’s for damn sure!

 

But anyways guys, I’ll be back on Sunday. We’ll talk about it more, 5:30 PM. Thanks you guys for tuning in and I’ll get Blair back on when he can bullshit for a couple hours. White Bitch Triple Six get a hold of me via email if you need Blair’s contact information and he can hook you up with a fitness consulting. That’s what he does. And he’s very good at it.

 

But anyways, cheers guys and thanks for tuning in and supporting the show, as well as all the support out there.

 

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MountainMan1847
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Australia for the white man o/ Heil to my Aussie brothers
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xSTRAWMANx
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Ken oath mate
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traceywilliams
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Would’ve loved to hear Blair finish a sentence.
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LiftWaffen
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He is really great at interrupting!

Tristan_Blixt
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you need to listen more and talk less. let blair do the talking
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timmurdock
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I had lots of questions and only an hour to get them in. Cut me a break or get your own show.
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Wotan bless me Aussie mates!
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TheWhitenessoftheWhale
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Do they want to humiliate SAS?
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renunciate
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22 hours ago
Ben R Smith is a war hero. His treatment is intentional demoralization.
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BradC1988
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Its great to hear Joel Davis has been released on bail and that he hasn’t changed a bit! Hail White Australia! o/
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KingTut999
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after Joel got released his Go, Send, Go or whatever fundraiser link got nuked. so not sure what happened exactly.

Spaceman69
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ben robert smith is being crucified by hes OWN CREW testifying against him because he cross some big lines and deserves all that he is getting. rules of engagement brothaaaaaa. you aint above the law big fellow. imagine how bad things were your own crew ratted you out, and rightly so!!! dont take my word for it, go read the court transcripts for yourself or watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J896i3yrTbQ&t=2s come at me nazis, this is the only place you can exercise your racism these days…. prove me right. prove the hate speech laws right!
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renunciate
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You couldn’t resist squawking buzzwords, could you? “Nazi” “racist”. Both propaganda terms used by communist agitators. Label someone with a negative name to justify persecuting them. GFY.
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Spaceman69
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are we pretending like joel davis was not a self proclaimed racist nazi LEADER? blaire use to be as well till he got kicked out cause hes missus cucked him with another member of NSN, so he chased the guy down with toma hawks then burned the guys house down- hence went to max security prison.. ohh boy, ya cant make this shat up.. hey whitey.. feel free to white wash the information to your liking… but now its the age of the internet…. that hitler brain wash bullshat aint gonna float. the truth is out there. the internet never forgets
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BradC1988
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Shut the fuck up retard LOL
Spaceman69
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blair sounds funny. like he forgot to take meds or sumthin. joels arrest, that racists try to white wash is that the female politician he had hes nazi possy harass AKA “rhetorically rape”, well she ended up quitting her job and moving house for her families safety because of the degree of online treats and harassment she received. i imagine she also took out intervention order against him and hes nazi friends. so yeah its kinda serious!!! you cannot threaten people like that even “rhetorically” especially a politician. thanks to NSN nazis and racists, Australia has passed laws against hate speech. basically it is now ILLEGAL to be racist in Australia. which i think is freaking awesome! an example to the world. these dumb nazis seem to think their freedom of speech includes insulting people to their hearts desires on the daily! like a aussie magistrate has said, people have the right to go about their daily lives without being subjected to your vile hate filled racism. on behalf of immigrants here in aus, thank you nazis for making racism illegal!!! we couldn’t have done it without ya… now we sit back eat pop corn and watch the overwhelming avalanche of court cases these racist dickheads are about to face.. they make for a perfect example of why these laws are necessary. nazi racism destroys common sense!
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bthor29
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Are you referencing the multi million dollar mansion she inherited then spent $800k renovating using her political influence to assist with council approval?
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Spaceman69
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completely unrelated. next you’ll be talking about affairs and sex scandals… are you trying to justify rhetorically raping her with threats and harassment?!? because she had an opinion about NSN?
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BradC1988
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Joel’s comments were totally justified, retard. However, your presence in a White country has no justification. You and the rest of the unwelcome brown/black hordes contribute nothing but crime to the host country.
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Again, shut the fuck up you antiWhite piece of shit. Also, you will be going home to your shitty country. Its only a matter of time, shitskin! LOL
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Thomas Sewell: Alrighty, we’re live. Max volume, everything. Audio input, capture.

 

All right, testing, 1, 2, 3. Use my big boy voice. Volume’s low. What’s your problem? I actually found a setting. Everyone’s like, Tom, fix your settings. We’re going 150%. There we go. Alrighty. Alrighty. Testing, testing!

 

All right, obligatory, free Joel Davis! Free Brandon [Koschel]! Free Jim Roberts!

 

So I’m going to cover a few subjects today, as you expect, with a solo stream. I really enjoyed my most recent stream with James Mason. It was like a five hour don’t Fed post challenge hard. He Fed posted a couple times, but as you’d expect. But I reviewed it and it wouldn’t breach. It wouldn’t breach even the most ridiculous laws we have here in Australia.

 

Now, one thing that I need to correct from the stream is I think I said that the book Siege is in a grey area of the law. My lawyer has told me that it is potentially banned. So he was like, it’s kind of in a dark grey area of the law. It’s not 100% banned. There is a banned list of books in Australia and Siege isn’t on it. But I cannot encourage anyone to go and buy that book because they haven’t made the case yet.

 

But what he suggests is that they’re trying to make the case. So I’d be very careful with that book in Australia. That’s one thing I want to clarify. Yeah, I think Mason gave a pretty sound explanation of what his intention of the book is. And I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any negative press because I know the journalists will watch a stream like that and get their AI ready to write an article for them about how evil we all are. But, yeah, that hasn’t happened.

 

But I do want to give people caution here in Australia that, yeah, I’m not encouraging you on legal grounds. I’m not encouraging you to read the book.

 

And I think all I said in the stream was that I did read it back in 2019 after being bullied by Jacob Hersant into reading it. I originally didn’t read it because I thought it was what everyone says it is. And I was like:

 

“I’m not really interested in that. I know enough about X, Y and Z through reading army manuals when I was in the army, so I don’t feel the need to read something of that nature.”

 

And then Jacob was like:

 

“No, it’s. That’s not what it’s about at all! There’s like some contentious lines in it. But overall, that’s not what it says.”

 

And Mason clarified that on stream. And I do appreciate him doing that because I think siege culture and accelerationist culture is really misunderstood. You know, accelerationism as a concept is, and siege as a concept is really misunderstood. And you’ll notice when I said to Mason about how our strategy has been to do the maximal amount of work with the minimal amount of damage, you’ll notice he was nodding the most. Mason’s not advocating for anyone to be an idiot and go to jail. He’s actually advocating the opposite. He’s saying:

 

“Do as much as you can to the integrity of the system without ruining your life!”

 

And he is proof that he’s done 60 years in the struggle. 60 years of inspiring people to be like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this system is evil and corrupt and contributing to it and trying to seek entry into it in hopes to change it is not an effective strategy.”

 

And he’s always been an advocate of the opposite. To siege it, to besiege it, to starve it. And yeah there’s no point, you know, running at it, doing a hero run, you know, charging at the castle walls, you’re just going to get pinged by some dude with an arrow. You’ve got to just wait it out, you’ve got to siege it, not wait it out and do nothing. But there’s a lot of things you can do while besieging an enemy.

 

And so people have to think creatively about what that means. And not but again, all politics, all politics, when it is in its infancy, attracts radical people. And radical people are more prone to self destructive behaviour. And so you want to have people that are courageous, you want to have courageous men, you want to have courageous leaders. And courageous does not mean foolish!

 

And so you do have to balance the concepts of bravery and courage with patience. And there’s a lot of virtue, a lot of virtue in having the strength to put yourself against a system that’s destroying you without becoming a martyr, you know, without letting the system destroy you. Now if you step over that line and the system puts you in jail for life or you get assassinated, like George Lincoln Rockwell.

 

I mean, Matt Hale, for example, who was involved, my understanding, with the creativity movement, he wasn’t the founder, but he was like the young hotshot that was rising up. And I think he’s in jail for life. I think he gets out of jail in about 10 years time from now. And he’s been in jail for like 20 years. Guys like Matt Howell, for example, just got really unlucky. They got. He got really unlucky and he got caught up in something that he hadn’t. I’ve looked at the case, I’ve looked at the case, the facts of the case, and the guy hasn’t done anything wrong. They could just. He was just a serious threat to the system and something like that could happen to me. But God willing, I’m safe from that level of corruption!

 

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And I think it might be good luck, it might just be good luck! It might be destiny. But you don’t, what is it? You don’t count your chickens until they come home to roost or something? It’s still early days. It’s very early days. I’m still a young man. I might be bald, but I’m young and fit.

 

So, yeah, it’s, I’m 33 years old this year as of this month. And yeah, there’s a lot of struggle to go.

 

Just open with that if you haven’t checked it out, don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s five hours. It is broken down into separate conversations. There’s an hour and then there’s a break and then there was meant to be an another hour and a break. But it, the first hour, the first two hours is very consumable for most people.

 

And then obviously, if you’re really into this stuff and you go for long drives and, or you work a job where you can have a, your headphones in a lot of tradies and stuff. Tell me that they like the five hour streams. Don’t be intimidated by having these really long streams. They appreciate, they appreciate the dialogue.

 

So as long as not too often. I don’t think you should listen to streams every day and I don’t think you should listen to music every day. I have been doing a fair bit of community service. I got to do knitting, as you’re all aware, and I advise people not to, I listen to music sometimes the whole time, or a podcast or an audio book. Books are probably the best thing. Books are better than streams because books, streams and dialogue and conversations aren’t as sharp. There’s no way I can communicate with you as clearly and as sharply as, say, reading Mein Kampf on audiobook. It’s not possible because of all the jargon. Those are the clearest thoughts possible. And then they go through an editing process.

 

So where are we? So already in the chat. Already in the chat! They’re arguing about Christianity already. Instantly! It’s incredible! Christianity will come up in this stream. When we talk about Manosphere, we’re going to cover feminism in general. We’re going to talk about all this girl bossing that’s going on at the moment with the Evangelicals. And there’s some heinous stuff that I’ve seen on Twitter where these little soy boy freaks are marrying these goblina jewesses with like 100 body counts. And they’re just saying:

 

“But she’s saved by Christ!”

 

And so it will come up. The conversation will come up. When we’re talking about that. There is definitely part one of this stream. What I’m going to open with is I’ll just. People still saying the volume’s low. Let me just unmute myself. Hold on. Now we’re. I could put up 175. I’ll just go 200. I’ll go 200. Okay. People still complaining. 200%. 200% Audio input, capture, volume. And the mic is like an inch from my face, maybe two. Two inches. Audio input, capture. I’ll put this one at 150. Alrighty. How does that sound? Testing for the last time. Testing. Yeah, fair enough. It is pretty quiet. Yeah, there’s a lot of retards in the chat today. Classic. Everyone’s spurging out. Yeah, that does sound better.

 

All right, sweet. Everyone’s arguing over which strain of Christianity. It’s incredible! It’s incredible! It’s endless. It’s endless, isn’t it? It never ends. It never ends.

 

So to start with the Aboriginal question. So obviously we are still what I am, and I have friends and we are trying to get a political party on the table here in Australia. And so covering the Aboriginal question, and you could call it the woman question, is really important. And it has to be done in a way that’s legal because of these laws here in Australia. And it has to be done in a way that people can understand the values and the rhetoric without getting caught up in the emotional arguments. So one has to be cautious when they approach these two topics. So you might find my speech slightly more refined than normal.

 

Hitler won the female vote in Germany. He actually had more women vote for him than men. And that’s a really interesting phenomenon to consider that more women voted for Hitler than men.

 

And so it shows that women don’t have to necessarily like you in order to respect you and I think that’s an important dynamic. A lot of people have commented, including Mason, about how journalists have behaved, female journalists specifically have behaved when interviewing me. And I saw someone online describe it as “negative tingles”, that they’re not used to someone outside the court giving them negative tingles. Normally it’s boring. Normally their job is boring. And then to have someone that’s got an intense character and an intense personality, it hits the dopamine receptors differently. And I’ve seen grandmas on Facebook comment sections in replies to these interviews saying, “hail Australia”. And all the criticism and all the advice people try to give us over the years is all wrong. It’s all backwards. It’s actually all the other way around. The female question is the opposite of the current orthodoxy, the current belief system of how women should be treated and how politics affects women. It’s all wrong. It’s all an inversion of the truth!

 

The truth is that it comes down to respect! And they respect integrity, not niceties! They don’t respect niceties, they respect integrity. And they respect aggression as long as it’s a as long as it’s not a foolish, foaming at the mouth, barbaric aggression. They don’t have much respect for that, but they almost respect that more and get better tingles from that than Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese. These characters provide no stimulation to the female political psyche. And so understanding how to win the woman vote, you’re not going to win it with outright misogyny. That’s obviously ridiculous! This idea of just be a prick and you’ll get voted in. That’s not what I’m articulating.

 

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What I’m saying is that people should not continue to spread the lie and demoralisation within our broader scene, our broader movement and political parties in the West, that the way to win the woman vote is to pander to them. That’s really what this comes down to, is the pandering.

 

So that’s a subject on its own that I’ll cover. So that’s what you got to look forward to.

 

But first we’re going to talk about the Aboriginal question and specific. We’ve talked about both these questions a lot, but the reason why it’s come up again is I’ve had a lot of people in person and online message me saying:

 

“Why is our strategy to go to war with Aboriginals? Won’t we win more votes and won’t we do better in Parliament and won’t our message be more well received if we don’t go to war?”

 

These are their words, not mine, with Aboriginals. And my position is not that we’re going to war with Aboriginals.

 

And obviously the Camp Sovereignty situation has played a part in this dialogue because people think that the reason why there’s allegedly an incident on that hill was because of the Aboriginal question. And it’s completely it’s not irrelevant. It’s not irrelevant, but people are conflating and the media has done this. The media has purposefully misled people and made a significant portion of people that support us question their support on the basis of:

 

“Well, why would they attack innocent elderly Aboriginal women?”

 

And most people can see through it. But there is a portion of our supporters that are like:

 

“Oh, I don’t think that was a good move. You probably shouldn’t have attacked innocent elderly Aboriginal women.”

 

And it’s, well, one, that didn’t happen and two, the conflict., … And this is the position that interestingly, a lot of Aboriginals actually share, not all, but a lot, is that the issue is these White traitors.

 

And so if these White traitors didn’t behave the way they did, there wouldn’t be as much conflict between the Whites and the Aboriginals. And you’ll find there’s a lot of, probably a higher percentage of Aboriginal DNA Aboriginals that aren’t supportive of multiculturalism. And there is, the Left call it like an Uncle Tom syndrome, obviously. But my position has always been towards all races that it’s about respect. And it’s a zero sum game a lot of the time regarding resources and living space. That’s zero sum.

 

And so there’s going to have to be compromise or there’s going to be if there’s not some sort of what I’ve always said about the question of re-migration is people bring up the Aboriginals, whenever you talk about re-migration they say:

 

“Oh, but what about the Aboriginals? They were here before you!”

 

So because of that, they’re in their own select category. And what I’ve been trying to explain to people online is that Aboriginals have a choice. And this is the sound bite and this is what you should be saying to if I know a lot of people have an Aboriginal friend, or a part Aboriginal friend, this is what you say to them:

 

“Our position is that you either have part sovereignty over the whole or over full sovereignty over the part. But you can’t have both.”

 

I’ll explain that again. The Aboriginal people can either have part sovereignty over all, or full sovereignty over part. They can’t have both! That’s not a compromise. That’s White genocide. So White people, Anglo, Celtic people predominantly have come to this continent because the continent wasn’t a country, or a nation, it was a continent. It’s a land mass. It’s an island, a big island.

 

But we’ve come to this place. There’s a whole bunch of warring Aboriginal tribes. Some are in cahoots and some aren’t in cahoots. Some have been here 10,000 years. Some have potentially been here 40,000 years. The numbers keep changing. But either way, we came here and we built something separate to them. We tried to include them. There’s a lot of interesting history from the first and Second Fleet and from Arthur and Bligh, Philip. There’s some interesting history where they’ve tried to integrate the Aboriginals and it’s almost always backfired horribly on both the Whites and on the Aboriginals.

 

And so when you look at and Auspill’s done a very good job at covering this, when there has been massacres of Aboriginals, so-called these genocides or massacres, it’s always come down to establishing the Anglo Saxon law on the land. It’s come down to:

 

“Hey, we want this land, we want this territory. We’re bigger and stronger than you. We’re not going to come after you, we’re not going to attack you. But we want this much space. And, it’s living space for Whites. Europe has to breathe out. We’re overcrowded in the streets of London. We’ve got this problem with criminals or petty criminality, people stealing Spoons and stuff. We’re running out of space. We found this place. We’re in a geopolitical issue with all these other people. We can’t explain this to you. We just need what we, what we need. And we’re prepared to fight for it! And your options are to fight us or to just keep moving deeper and deeper into the bush and away from this spot. It’s ours now. You’re not having it back.”

 

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And obviously anyone in their right mind would be pissed off by that. If some alien force came, you know, from space and did that to us right now and we had really little ability to fight back because they were so technologically advanced, we would rightfully be pissed off, wouldn’t we? But we would have to retreat into the bush, we would have to White flight. We would have to be like, this is too much. We have to consolidate what we’re doing.

 

And so this is beyond Good and Evil. This is a, this is Nietzschean in this concept. The Left try to put a moral framework on that and say:

 

“That’s wrong, that’s evil. And therefore we have to surrender Australia to everyone! We have to be cucks, we have to bend over and we have to let anyone come here and rape us because of this founding moment!”

 

Because White people equals bad as their moral framework. That is their entire moral framework. White people equals bad. And they’ve got this original sin concept:

 

“We’re bad people! We’re horrible people! We’re horrible, bad people!”

 

Now, obviously straight White men don’t think this way. The only people that think this way are people with slave morality, which is homosexuals, freaks, a lot of women unfortunately think this way:

 

“Oh, no, we’re horrible! What we’ve done is so horrible!”

 

You know, this kind of bleeding heart. Not all women, but it is a naturally, it is a feminine energy to put your empathy for others. Well, it’s not even a, it’s a distortion of feminine energy really.

 

But look, it appeals, it appeals to weak willed people. Masculine men don’t think like this. Testosterone doesn’t allow your brain to even go there. We’ve got a completely different philosophical structure, a completely different reality because we’ve got a solar morality. It really comes down to these simple principles. It’s not about good and evil, it’s about solar morality. It’s about, we are a life form, we must exist, we must continue to exist. We don’t have to be pricks about it, we don’t have to be cunts about it. But we’re not going to back down, we’re not going to surrender, we’re not going to roll over and die. And so how do we make this work?

 

And so obviously, while we’re in a nice friendly talking phase about it, I don’t have an issue with Aboriginal sovereignty. It’s not my issue. I don’t. Good on them, Good for them. That’s my position on the Aboriginals. Good for them! If they can have it, good on them.

 

But it’s got nothing to do with me. I’m not paying for it, I’m not engaged in it, I’m not involved in it. It’s not in my face, it’s not in my place, it’s not in my space. It’s in their space. Now that is the problem! That is the problem is that multiculturalism is forcing all these radically different people to live together. And we’re not meant to live that is going to be the death of us. It’s going to be the death of our culture.

 

Now these people, they have a flag, they have a tribe, they have an identity. They’re trying to rebuild their culture. Good on them. My opinion, and I think the opinion of most Aboriginals and most White people is that they should do it on their own! I think they’ve had enough help. We’ve done enough to help them, more than enough to help them. It’s not our responsibility to help them any further.

 

What part of the land are they going to get? Well, that is the most serious conversation. But the philosophy behind that conversation I think is congruent. I think we can, I think all Australians can get on board with the idea that we have a two-state solution, at a minimum. To me, that’s the minimum. If they want to go to war with us, that’s a different conversation.

 

But I think you’ll find that there could be conversations where they have their own government, they have their own schools, they have their own institutions. Are they going to be as good as ours? No, they’re not. Is that going to cause the bleeding hearts to be like:

 

“See we’re still continuing to oppress them by keeping them separate!”

 

And there’ll be an anti-apartheid argument, but apartheid is the most beneficial thing for both parties. Because they will never have dignity, they will never have sovereignty and they will never have dignity while we play this passive aggressive game where they’re trying to rule over us and we’re trying to say we’re all friends, Kumbaya. That is never, while both of us are actually suffering. So I’ve said in the past things like if they want to, if they want to fight, they might get deported too. They’ll get deported back to India. They walked here 40,000 years ago. They might get told to walk back.

 

And I’ve said things like those are very strong comments and obviously a lot of Aboriginal people want to fight me because of those comments.

 

But that is my position. I’m not backing down on that. I’m never going to change my mind on that is my position. It’s a two-state solution or it’s that because we cannot continue. And when we take power in this country, and we are going to take power in this country, we are going to solve this question and we are going to say:

 

“Let’s sit down, let’s draw up the map and here is a fundamental treaty of you will not let China put bases on your land, you will not let any foreigners put bases on your land, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Like there will be a treaty that will say:

 

“You are a vassal of our realm. This is Australdom, this is our realm, you’re a vassal, you’ve got a territory, you self govern it.”

 

Whether we trade or buy or sell or communicate with each other, whether there’s tourist visas, all this is downstream. We can work something out where they can come visit us and we can go visit them.

 

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The bleeding hearts can go live with the Aboriginals. But you will not put Chinese bases on it. Like this is fortress Australia. We’re not going to tolerate it and you guys can police yourselves. You can have your own laws, you can have your own courts, you can have your own koori justice and your own jails and your own prisons, and all the complaints that they have all solved overnight. All solved overnight. We have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with it. We have no part of it! You want to go spear each other, that’s your culture. That we’re not going to intervene. And that is the absolute best outcome for everyone involved! That it’s the best compromise for us. Certainly it’s the best compromise. Is it perfect? Is it ideal? Can we purity spiral and get a better result? Sure, absolutely!

 

Is that feasible? Of course, anything is feasible if you put your mind to it. Is that how the Australian public feel? No, the Australian public don’t feel that there could be something more than that. There might be people that want to do more than that and go further, certainly. And that ethnic tension arises from living together. But I think once you find, once you take that step in that direction, I think you will find that tension will disappear.

 

So when people say to me:

 

“Tom you know why are we doing this? Anti Aboriginal rhetoric and da, da and we should try to win the Aboriginals over and we should., …”

 

The way they’re talking is they’re treating Aboriginals the same way. They’re like:

 

“We should try to win women over. We should try to win!”

 

It’s kind of similar to attitude. It’s like that’s not how it works. You don’t win Aboriginals over by pandering to them. You don’t win women over by pandering to them. I know they’re two very different biological forms. You know, obviously one is male and female. One is just female. You know, when we’re talking about women, we’re talking about White women, obviously. And I’m not making any further comparisons in that regard.

 

But if you understand, what I’m saying is the politics of the White man, the politics of the White Patriarchy, is not about pandering! Our politics is about laying down the law, explaining what we’re going to do and why we’re going to do it and how we’re going to do it. And then saying:

 

“This is the best outcome for everyone. What we’re doing right now is not working and we’re not making any further compromises on that’s the line in the sand.”

 

We’re actually only going to go further than that, we’re not going to come any less than that.

 

There is never, in my opinion, there’s never going to be a time where I or the vast majority of White people in Australia are going to accept are our slow ethnic replacement. It might appear that way right now, but it’s only because we’re not politically organised. This is not how the average Australian feels. This is not how the average White person around the world feels. The average White person around the world wants re-migration. They want to remain, at a minimum, 90%. That’s like the beginning. That’s not even, like controversial anymore, that the 90% or the 95% rule. That is the super majority of the population. I just like deport all of them except the good ones. That’s the super majority. And then you’ve probably still got the majority saying:

 

“No, no, it shouldn’t be 90, it should be 99%.”

 

So, yeah, anyway, I’ll pause there. I won’t cover that subject much more. Oh, my God! There’s a sorry, there’s a spastic in the chat. How do I do ban this person for life? I don’t want to mute. I keep making this mistake. If I mute, then I can’t ban. Isn’t that right? Okay, that just deleted it. Oh, yeah. Also muting on Rumble because Odysee is different. Muting on Rumble is banning. Cool. Glad we got that sorted.

 

I’ll go through the comments section. If there’s any comments on the Aboriginal question. Geez, everyone’s just arguing about Christianity. We’re not even talking about Christianity. We’re just talking about Aboriginals at this stage.

 

So, yeah, in short, as I said before, tell your friends that say this nonsense to you about how we should work together:

 

“We all got to work together. We all got to work together.”

 

They can have full sovereignty over themselves, but not us. Or they can have this fake sovereignty over everyone. Do they actually want full sovereignty? If they do, it can only be over themselves. That means apartheid. Ultimately, that means apartheid. What that looks like is a man can’t serve the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag. You can’t go to a at the high school, at the courts, all these institutions. It’s got an Australian flag and it’s got an Aboriginal flag. That is not sustainable. It’s one or the other. It can’t be both.

 

And this idea of:

 

“Oh, we got to show solidarity and they’re not a threat to us and all this.”

 

It’s not sustainable. It’s not sustainable. It’s nice. Tingle feels. It feels really nice:

 

“Oh, look, I’m being empathetic. Oh, I’m a good person.”

 

You can have this virtue signaling, but we’re two very different peoples. We need to have sovereignty over ourselves. They need to have sovereignty over themselves. We need to be focused on Australia and White people and civilisation, the Western civilisation that we’re a part of, and they need to be focused on creating their own harmony, the dream time, their version of reality, fixing their problems, punishing their problems. They have a completely different version of reality to us. That is just how different ethnic groups and different races are built. They have different versions of reality. Things we see as a problem that they see it like a major problem, they see as a minor problem, and vice versa. Their biggest issue is White people are locking them up and putting them in jail. Like, they can’t even comprehend that our problem is that they’re committing heinous crimes. They can’t even comprehend that’s a problem. They see the problem as:

 

“Why are you locking us up?”

 

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It’s the same with the blacks in America. How can these two groups of people live together when they have completely different versions of reality? So they should police themselves. Simple as! Part sovereignty over all or full sovereignty over part.

 

So you can’t have both. Simple. As I’ll move on. Hopefully the comment section is not talking about Christianity, someone says:

 

“Do I make my own toothpaste?”

 

Very funny. Yeah. And this applies not just to Australia, this applies to obviously, Canada and New Zealand as well. I think the Treaty of Waitangi is a mistake in New Zealand. I don’t know too much about the treaties in Canada. I know Alex Ferryman does. Yeah, it’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Any treaty that exists needs to be a treaty of:

 

“Here’s your space. Here’s our space. You live there, we live here. You’re citizens of your country. We’re citizens of our country. We’re two separate nations. We’re not the same nation.”

 

They even call themselves the first nation so that by definition, they’re not part of our nation. They’re saying this. They’re saying this, not me. They are saying it. What else?

 

Let’s get into the nuts and bolts. The woman question. I need a need a breather. If we’re going to get into the woman question. I need a breather. Yeah. Someone says:

 

“Easiest solution is allow those same bleeding hearts to transfer their own funds to Aboriginals, not government or social funds. The Left can put their money where their mouth is.”

 

Yeah, absolutely! Well, I believe that all the bleeding hearts should go live with the Aboriginals. They should have Aboriginal citizenship. They want to be so bad. They hate White people so much. They hate being White!:

 

“White people are horrible, horrible people! And having White children is perpetuating White supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Good bye. Bye. See you later. Awesome! You know, we’ll strip all of these people of Australian citizenship when we come to power and there will be people that will say:

 

“Oh, my God, you can’t do that!”

 

Yes, we can and we will. They’re all going to get stripped of their Australian citizenship. These White people that work, that bow down and worship Aboriginals as their god. They can go live with their god. They can go live with their god. Simple. You know, you want to do the Welcome to Country acknowledgment of country, all this. Absolutely perfect! Perfect. Absolutely! Bye. Bye. Yeah, we don’t want those people living in our society. It doesn’t matter that they’re of the same blood as us. That doesn’t matter because they’re not of the same honour as us. They hate us! There are some sort of mutation of our bloodline that is antithetical to our existence. If Aboriginals didn’t exist, they would find some other group to nut hug. Hypothetically, because there’s no Aboriginals in England. Like you don’t see people advocating for the pre-Belgic-Celtic invasion of Bronze Age England. That doesn’t exist. You know, what kind of strain of Leftism would that be? You know, it’s obviously absurd because you’ve got a thousand years of homogeneity of many different layers of Celtic peoples then breeding in with many different layers of Germanic and Nordic peoples.

 

So it’s the English people, the British people are a relatively homogenised people. And so you don’t see that argument because those tribes can homogenise quite. I mean, obviously it still caused things like, I mean, I don’t want to get too much into the intricacies of English history, but you can see the precursor of things like civil war in previous ethnic distinctions.

 

So, for example, Croatia and Serbia are ethnically very similar, but they’re not ethnically the same. They are two different ethnicities and therefore they also have two different versions of their interpretation of Christianity. You’ve got Orthodoxy and you’ve got Catholicism. So ethnic differences play out also religiously and also politically. You’ll see this a lot through human history. You see it in the American Civil War. There was an ethnic difference in the American Civil War as well. Probably not as predominant, but I won’t go into it. Americans know that for themselves.

 

Now someone says:

 

“Tom’s right. They have a different reality. Go to any Northern Territory prison and you’ll see the system isn’t working.”

 

It’s not working by our standards. Absolutely! Our version, our reality of working and their version of working are two completely different things.

 

And I’ll finish it with this. I had a Dreamtime experience with Aboriginals. I’m sure I’ve told this story on stream years ago, so those that have been around a while will remember this story. But I had a friend in the army, a guy called Christopher Knight. He was a Special Forces guy. He’s a translator, he’s a linguist. And I don’t know what he’s doing now with his life, but I’m sure he’s doing well. And he was adopted. He got adopted in a cultural sense, or a linguistic sense by an Aboriginal. An Aboriginal tribe in Darwin in Northern Territory. And this guy was a, like one of those, what is called politician-linguist or something. This guy spoke like 50 languages. It was incredible! I’ve never seen anything like it. I mean, we would go out drinking in Mitchell street or whatever it’s called in the CBD of Darwin. It’s like one street and there’s like four bars on it. And any backpacker, he could speak their language. Any backpacker. It was really incredible!

 

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Anyway on his weekends, he was going out and living with Aboriginals out in the middle of nowhere. And there were like some, there were full bloods and it’s very rare to find full bloods, but in Northern Territory it’s more common. There’s no way you can find full bloods outside of Northern Territory or Northern New, Southern Queensland or Northern WA. And he started hanging out with these, basically semi-nude Aboriginals in the bushland near Casuarina Beach on the weekends. And he knocks on my door. I don’t know, it was like one in the morning, one random. It was like a Tuesday, or a Thursday. And he says:

 

“Hey Tom or hey Sewell.”

 

Everyone calls you by your last name in the army:

 

“Hey Sewelly, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. They need a linguist. He was a two commando guy, but for some reason he was in our battalion. And he says, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. I’m getting on a plane and I have to say goodbye to some people and I had to run some errands. Can you drive me?”

 

Because I was one of the only LID, which lid means new guy or live in digger. I was one of the only LID that had a car. And I was friendly with him, and everyone thought he was a weirdo and I did as well. Weird means different things to me than it does to other people. When someone says weird, they mean like not radioactive, but they mean, you know, semi-ostracized. They mean:

 

“Oh, we don’t associate with that guy because he’s a weirdo!”

 

Whereas when someone’s weird, I am fascinated by human psychology. And so I was always very friendly with him because I wanted to know what made him tick. He had such a different version of reality to everyone else that I just really wanted to understand. I mean this guy was probably in his early 30s and I think I was 19 or 20 at the time.

 

So I was like:

 

“Unk, how do you view the world? What’s going on, Unk?”

 

Basically I was the same relationship I have with Zoomers and is like that relationship when I was The Age that a lot of Zoomers are that asked me for advice And I’m now. I’m now 90.

 

But anyway, he says, he’s like:

 

“Sewelly, you’re the only one with a car. You know, can you drive me around? I gotta say goodbye to some people.”

 

And so he drives me out in the middle of nowhere, and then we go walking for like 40 minutes down this beach. And I’m like:

 

“What are we doing?”

 

And we find these Aboriginals just on this beach in the middle of nowhere. And they’re all sitting cross legged and around a little campfire. And he introduces me to them and he’s speaking their language, like full Aboriginal! Like whatever sect of Aboriginal they are. And he’s speaking their language. And he introduces me and he says a bunch of Aboriginal words.

 

And then he says my name. And then he says:

 

“5 RAR, 5th Battalion.”

 

And I was like:

 

“What did you say to them?”

 

And he said:

 

“You’re a young warrior from my tribe, from the 5th Battalion tribe. And that you’re a good warrior. You’re a good, young, strong warrior and that you’re helping me today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh.”

 

And then they all, like, acknowledged me. They’re all sitting different. So it was men. I was sitting with the men, obviously, and the women were sitting at a different campfire with the women, and it was segregated.

 

And so I was with the men and Knighty was explaining to them how I was a good warrior, a good young warrior of the 55 RAR tribe. And we’re sitting there and they’re just talking and talking, and I went into a trance. I was tired, but I didn’t know what was, … It was like someone had drugged me. I was in a trance and I was just staring at the ocean, because we’re on the beach. And I was staring at the ocean and the sky was purple.

 

And I was like:

 

“Is there something in this fireplace? Like, what? Like, am I on?”

 

I’ve never at this stage, I’d never tried any drug ever!

 

And I was like:

 

“Is this what acid feels like?”

 

That’s what I was thinking in my head.

 

And I was like:

 

“What is going on?”

 

And they’re making that noise that they make. They’re talking and yeah. And then the sun’s coming up and I’m like, what is going on? And I look at the time and it’s like 6:30. And it was just surreal! It was a surreal experience. And then he’s like:

 

“All right, we’re gonna go.”

 

He gave them bananas and double A batteries. And he taught them how to like Jerry rig a phone to be able to give co-ordinates so that he could communicate where they were in the bush using GPS. And it was just fascinating! It was just absolutely fascinating! That was my first positive experience with Aboriginals. And I had had only about 500 negative experiences with Aboriginals prior to that moment. And every negative experience I’d had with Aboriginals was them being drunk, or not even drunk, but them just behaving the way they behave, and then being violent and aggressive towards me for just existing, for just walking down the street or just going to the shops at two o’ clock in the afternoon. Or them harassing like pregnant ladies trying to get in their car, demanding money off them. Like just every experience I had was so negative.

 

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And then this was the first time I was like:

 

“I think I’m starting to understand these people. They live in a dream time.”

 

Like the proper full bloods. They live in a different reality to us. They don’t like time. The way we view time and the way they view time is completely different! And I somehow empathed in that moment into their little hive mind with Knightie, who was like my guide. His name was Christopher Knight, like a knight of Christ! And he was a very spiritually attuned man. And that was an experience I’ll never forget. I think I was almost, 20 years old. I was only 19!

 

But yeah, very interesting stuff. Very, very interesting stuff.

 

The stream looks frozen on my end. What is going on? No, no, it’s not frozen. Excellent! Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? I’ve seen the best of it and I’ve seen the worst of it. And the best of it is we should just leave these people alone. Like the problem is enlightenment. In a lot of ways, [chuckling] enlightenment has benefits, certainly. I’m not anti-enlightenment. You know, that’s a big part of how we’ve come to be. And it was a big part of our life cycle as a civilisation. It’s the second last phase of civilisation is enlightenment. The Greeks went through this around, I don’t know, 400 B.C. And yeah, I’m not against, you can’t be against it because it’s nature, it’s time itself.

 

But one of the dumbest parts of enlightenment is “equality”. That’s the dumbest part of enlightenment. The, the, that is the false enlightenment. The false enlightenment is that we’re all blank slates and that we’re all equal. That you know:

 

“All men are created equal before God and blah blah, blah!”

 

That is the most. How the hell. I don’t even know if they sincerely believe that. I can’t even fathom that they were that stupid that the people that colonised Australia, … Because when I read Clark, I’ve got it right here actually, this one here.

 

So this guy’s a communist. He’s a piece of shit, Leftist communist! And he wrote A History of Australia. I have, I’ve only read this one. I haven’t read the other volumes. I think this one ends around 1830. And he wrote this in I think 1961 or 62. And he’s a full blown communist and was investigated by ASIO for being, for coordinating with. Here’s the big boy here. Here’s the main man. Here’s the main man. Mr. Cook. Captain Cook. Anglo Saxon. Anglo Saxon. But yeah, Melbourne University. He’s a commie at Melbourne University.

 

Anyway, I read it. It’s quite interesting, quite subversive. But he, oh, he really emphasises the how enlightened Captain Cook and you know, Arthur Bligh and all these guys were and how they, but what’s interesting is he can’t hide the fact that despite their Enlightenment, despite the fact that they. Excuse me. They arrived in Australia and they tried to treat the Aboriginals as equals.

 

And so they’re like:

 

“Hey, let’s trade.”

 

And then there was nothing to trade. So they were like:

 

“Hey, let’s, …”

 

It was like a clash of values because they had these Enlightenment values and they didn’t know how to implement them on the Aboriginals. They didn’t know.

 

And so there was a whole bunch of different treat ways the Aboriginals were treated by European colonists. And I think it was the Portuguese and the Spanish in the Americas, but a little bit even in the Asia Pacific region, the Portuguese were in Asia Pacific as well. And they were basically like:

 

“You’re going to convert to Catholicism by the sword!”

 

And what Clark says is that they didn’t have those Enlightenment values. So you’ve got like Protestant Anglos trying to communicate with Aboriginals and like uplift them into humanity and uplift them into civility.

 

And then you’ve got the Portuguese with almost like pre-Enlightenment Catholic values that were just like “convert or die”. And that’s quite interesting. You know, it’s possible to talk about history without talking about Christianity. But yeah, that’s quite interesting. I won’t expand on that too much. You can gather from that what you want.

 

Yeah, where was I going with that? Yeah, he has all these little anecdotes or all these little stories about these first encounters and how, yeah, the enlightened English were just bewildered and were just like:

 

“We’ve never encountered this anywhere in the world!”

 

And he’s actually honest about the criticisms that they had. I think he might over embellish their enlightenment principles. I think they were probably a lot more racist than what he’s articulating because he’s a communist.

 

But yeah, I think I titled this Aboriginal communism, didn’t I? Before we get into the woman question, ultimately, if we don’t segregate from Aboriginals, we’re going to get destroyed by Aboriginal communism the way that what’s going on in South Africa, they’re dealing with African communism. And when you end apartheid and you mix or you attempt to get the races to all live together in equality and one is so different to the other, it’s a race to the bottom! And that’s ultimately what communism is, it’s a race to the bottom.

 

And it’s not just anti-enlightenment because there’s a lot of things that are anti-enlightenment, but it is anti-life! It’s ultimately anti-life because our version of life is an upward force, not a, so it’s hard to cover this without getting into the Greeks. You got to get into the Greeks because they figured all this out! And I don’t mean like the Greeks is in the souvlaki shop. I mean like the ancient Greeks, the philosophy.

 

The Greeks realised that when they went through their enlightenment that there’s not just being, there’s becoming. And that the ultimate being is becoming. And we use the word “progress” now and that word is obviously really dirty and that’s why I don’t use it. It’s a very dirty word. To say something is “progressive”, you’re saying it’s Leftist.

 

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And so the Leftists have actually somehow inverted “becoming” into “progression”. And so when they say it’s progressive, it’s actually regressive! It’s regressive of the total life force. Leftism is the downward path. It’s not Left versus Right, it’s up versus down! And this is something that you really need to understand. Communism, Aboriginal communism, jewish communism, any form of communism, any form of Leftist progression is a progression downwards! It’s progressing the life form downwards. And this applies to even politics of today.

 

So if you want to talk about party politics, if you want to call it that if you want to talk about Parliamentarianism, what the Labor Party here in. I know this is people like, I’m tuning out. I don’t want to hear this. But normies want to hear this. Normies, you do need to. If you’re listening to this, you’re probably not a normie. And you do need to know how to apply the logic that I’m articulating here in the stream to things other than ancient Greece and ancient Rome and like all this stuff, you need to be able to apply it to be able to explain it to, … You need to be able to speak in tongues and that doesn’t mean like that crazy Evangelical crap. That means you need to be able to speak the tongue of the people.

 

And so what the Labor Party here in Australia has done is they’ll get lost on this because they haven’t read a book on economics, but it’s this Keynesian economics where it’s window breaking. So they believe that if you keep breaking windows, the GDP will go up because the glazier is going to make more money. And, it’s all that in conjunction with Fabian socialism. So Fabian socialism is what:

 

“We want the windows to be broken because we want more money wasted on fixing windows instead of building the power system.”

 

And so Fabian socialists or Fabian Communists, Fabian Marxists. They’re ultimately Marxists. They want to create this workers revolution through accelerating the decline of society by wasting as much money as possible.

 

And so that’s why the NDIS is the way it is. That’s why the NDIS is bigger than the defense budget. That’s why we spend more money on parasites and retards than we do on protecting the nation from foreign invasion. It’s why we spend so much money on basically compounding problems. Not fixing problems, but compounding problems! And the problem itself is often the expenditure, the wastage, the fact that we’re taxing the noble, the good, the healthy, and we’re giving to the evil and the weak and the disgusting and the decrepit.

 

And this is Kali Yuga stuff. This is end of time stuff. This is what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. Why you have to read Mein Kampf. It’s not negotiable. It’s not negotiable! If there’s only one book you should read, it’s Mein Kampf, because he explains all of this. He explains exactly what’s happening, exactly why it’s happening and exactly what you need to do to stop it from continuing to destroy your society.

 

So that’s why they’re window breaking. That’s why the Labor Party and all the Greenies and all these freaks, they’re all on board with destroying society through taking money from good people and giving it to broken people. And what that does is that what you feed grows. And they know that! They know that! They know it and they’ve already projected how that industry is going to expand. And it is beyond political parties. I mean it’s the Uni-Party doing it. It’s not just the Labor Party. But it obviously gets worse under one and then the other does Labor Party light. They do Fabian socialism light. That’s what the Liberal Party is. It’s homosexuality light. Fabian socialism light. Retard economics light. You know it’s diet retardation!

 

Anyway. Aboriginal communism. Yeah. Where are we? Yeah. I don’t normally do Superchats mid conversation but Delvian said:

 

“Isn’t the abo love a second order consequence of White men becoming feminised and White women hating their own men?”

 

There’s definitely an element to that. I think there’s a lot of different components to the so-called “Aboriginal love”. There’s the false enlightenment, there’s self hatred. Yes. There’s virtue signaling. So society is structured wrong, which is what we’re going to get into with the feminine society and the woman question. Society is structured with an inversion of natural law. The moral framework of society is an inversion of what our society was built on.

 

So that is often described as late stage decline or degeneration where you forget what your purpose was to such an extent where it’s upside down. There’s obviously nefarious influence. There’s particular (((interest groups))) that are a particular ethno-religious orientation and they compound and accelerate and destabilise. Certainly. They’re obviously a major player in that process but it does happen on its own. And you know there’s a lot of, I won’t go into all the proverbs and quotes on the subject but this festering can only exist if you’re already going in that direction. What we need is a complete re-evaluation of values. And you know we have gone through two or three generations of a nihilist phase and we are re interpreting and revaluing our values. We are so far ahead morally of where we were 50 years ago. And people will aay:

 

“No! That’s not true. No! People were so conservative back in the day.”

 

And it’s like they were running off inertia. They hadn’t actually evaluated their values. They were just running off inertia. We’re actually so much further ahead by going through the decline, seeing the nihilism, seeing the hedonism.

 

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And I have so much faith and hope in the young generation. Young White people across the world, obviously, a lot of them are infected with the social disease. A lot of them are infected. But the ones that aren’t infected with the social disease have immunity. They have immunity! They have built up. They don’t need to be injected with anything. They have natural immunity! Young White people across the Western world are growing up immune to this social disease. And the disease of our time is not the plague. It’s not the Spanish Flu. It’s not? What is it? You know, all the ones that people, tuberculosis. It’s not these things that are killing people anymore, you know.

 

And Edward Dutton covers this a lot. I’ve talked about this on streams for years and years, and I’m so glad someone actually wrote a book about it. I’ve only read the blurb. I haven’t actually read the whole book, but I might actually get around to reading it at some point. But Dutton covers this and he explains that just the mutational load has the selection process now is, are you a retard or are you not? And if you’re not a retard, you’re most likely immune to the retardation that’s destroying our society.

 

So, yeah. All right, we’ll do it. We’ll go into the woman question. Check the comments first. Someone says:

 

“Ban women!”

 

No, we don’t need to ban them. Reese White says:

 

“Thomas. So are you a fan of Adam Green?”

 

I don’t really know anything about Adam Green. I’ve seen him on Twitter. He’s the anti-Christian guy, isn’t he? He’s kind of built like a platform. I haven’t seen him at all! I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t really know anything about him. I only know of him. Yeah, I can’t comment on that question. I’ve seen a lot of people attack him saying he’s jewish, and I’ve seen him say that Christianity is jewish.

 

So it’s like everyone’s saying:

 

“You’re a jew! No, you’re a jew! No, you’re a jew!”

 

And it’s like I’m not getting into it. It’s not in my sphere. I think I’ve seen him do chats with HT [Handsome Truth]. Yeah, we will cover a little bit of Christianity here. But yeah, you all know I’m not Christian. But we will cover it and we’ll cover it in a respectful way. I think that any criticism people have of Christianity should be done respectfully. I know that’s hard to do. It is very hard to do. But this is a, yeah, I try to be as secular as possible and yeah, let’s start with that. Let’s actually start with Christianity.

 

Let’s start with. If we’re going to talk about the woman question, let’s talk about Christianity.

 

So the Hebrew mythology or the Hebrew founding story is Adam and Eve. It’s a bit different to other founding stories, but you’ll find there’s so much similarities when you’re talking about the origins of man from. And I don’t use mythology. I don’t say mythology in a bad way. I don’t say it in a, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m not putting a pejorative on it. You know, all founding myth is myth. It’s mythos. We don’t know for sure, but we can respect myth. I respect myth. Yeah, and geez, we’re already into it.

 

But we all know the story Genesis. So we have this perfect garden of peace and harmony and the founding story of Christianity and therefore the founding message, the founding message of Christianity is that women are inherently attracted to evil. And breaching the peace and harmony of the garden that’s created by the father.

 

So it’s kind of like women inherently have to “shit test” a situation, a society, a these aren’t my words. This is not even my personal interpretation. I didn’t come up with this is what the Bible says.

 

And anyone that has a different version of Genesis is a moron and hasn’t read it. So many Christians haven’t read the Bible. Probably one of my main issues with Christians is that they haven’t read the Bible. I don’t think you should be allowed to call yourself a Christian if you haven’t read the Bible.

 

And likewise, I don’t think people should call themselves a National Socialist if they haven’t read Mein Kampf. I don’t think you should say that. I think you should say I’m interested in National Socialism, but I don’t think you should identify with it. You should hear the words from the man. He says it all. He outlines 95% of it in one book. And it’s a lot easier to read than the Bible. The Bible is a very hard book to read. It’s very tedious at parts. It, sure, it has beautiful parts, like all religious books have beautiful parts, but it is a very hard read. It’s a very long book. It’s like a million words. It takes a long time. Unless you race through it, if you race through it, you’re going to miss things. But Genesis is very clear. Like the first books, Genesis and Exodus, these things are very clear. Very, very clear. There’s no, not much nuance to it.

 

Now there’s obviously different mythological interpretations. What is the snake and what is the apple and what is God’s command and all this. But if you’re going to found a religion off this principle, it’s going to bleed through the whole text, isn’t it?

 

So whatever you’re reading later on in the Bible has to always come back to Genesis and a belief system that men and women were created unequally, that man was created from breathing life into dust or into matter. Women were created from the rib of man, so from the side. So it’s a peer, but it’s not an equal peer. There’s some sort of difference there. And so, I mean, obviously.

 

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But I was talking to Jacob recently and he’s been deep diving Plato. Absolutely deep diving Plato. I’ve read the Republic, but I haven’t read much else from Plato. And he was negging Aristotle, which I was surprised at because I actually prefer, at this stage, I prefer Aristotle to Plato, not to get too much into philosophy, but I’ve only read the Republic. So and I didn’t really rate it, to be honest. I thought it was an interesting dialogue, but I didn’t rate it as much as it gets glazed. But he’s been reading all the other stuff. Full deep diving into everything, every single thing the guy’s written. And what he said to me was, and this is very recently, he said to me that the Greeks believed that, or Plato believed, and this became quite a common belief system, that if that souls were created, this is before Christianity, they believe that souls were created fresh and that they were all men, that if you lived a bad life, if you were a bit, you know, weak or immoral, that you would be reincarnated in your next life as a woman. And this became a pretty well established belief system. And it’s interesting that that is in some way similar to Christianity, that they arrived at a position where they were ripe for proselytisation from Christian apostles.

 

So let’s start there. Obviously, European Paganism is many things, just as Christianity is many things. There’s so much schism within Paganism. And when you’re talking generally about Paganism, you’re talking about general principles which we know from Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Indus Valley, and obviously Germanic and Celtic Paganism. And people will cherry pick what they want.

 

There are female church leaders at the moment. I mean, that’s just absurd to me that the whole book is a document saying that women can’t accurately interpret God. They can’t accurately communicate or interpret or follow instruction from God. And therefore they shouldn’t be in charge of the Church. They can’t be in charge of society, they can’t be in charge of the Church. They just don’t possess the correct component to do that. And the whole religion is founded on that principle.

 

And then you have such a degradation of the Church that you now have women pastors and preachers and priests, priestesses or whatever you’d call them. I mean, it’s absurd! It’s not my church, I’m not a Christian. But the hypocrisy is despicable! It is truly despicable! So fascinating!

 

Now, Paganism has varying degrees of male and female relationships. Some interpretations of Paganism are a bit more equitable, others a lot less equitable.

 

So when we go back to the ancients and when we look at thousands of years of civilisation, there is not really any society that has treated men and women as the same, nor has there been a society that has treated women the way women are being treated right now! And it’s not a surprise that our birth rates are really low. Any society that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any civilisation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any nation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies! And therefore it is a footnote in somebody else’s history.

 

So we have to reevaluate our values and we have to completely change the way we behave or we’re going to die!

 

And so the woman question is the same question as White genocide. It’s the same question as White replacement. You cannot separate the two. You can’t say:

 

“Let’s stick to just White nationalism and let’s not talk about how evil feminism is. Let’s talk about White replacement. But we’ve got to keep women on side. We can’t say things that might hurt the feelings of women.”

 

And as I said at the start of the stream, this is a really dumb, weak, coward strategy that’s going to cause us to die as a race! Women don’t respect pandering. They find it disgusting! Feminists are pure evil! And they will because of there’s some force, you know, Christians could say they’re possessed. And I do put a lot of weight in possession. I know not everyone does because not everyone believes they have a soul. And not everyone believes in metaphysics or in like a spirit realm. And so people that are very rational will say:

 

“This person’s unwell, or this person’s mentally ill.”

 

All means the same thing. Whereas the more religious or spiritual way of looking at it is this person is spiritually ill, this person’s potentially possessed. And this isn’t very electable, but I have witnessed what I could only describe as exorcisms. I have seen the way some people have behaved, and there is no rational or logical explanation other than this person is possessed. This person has a demon, a demon in them! They’re not at rest. They’re not in harmony. They’re not. There’s something that is currently occupying them and it’s potentially just a phase, but if it keeps occurring, it’s like there’s something that rears its head, something unbecoming.

 

And that’s a difficult conversation to have with people that don’t believe in demons. They don’t believe that it could be possible. They’re so far into post Enlightenment rationalism that just:

 

“It’s so irrational, the idea that there are forces beyond our control that could perhaps be bad forces!”

 

You know, we can acknowledge that there is a good force and inherently good force on earth, but then we want to pretend that there’s not an inherently bad force on earth?

 

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So instead of arguing about whether Christianity is cucked or not, instead a better conversation is, what can we learn from Christianity? Where is Christianity right? And where is modern Christianity wrong? Or where is Christianity philosophically wrong? That’s a much more important discussion and it’s a more respectful discussion as well. Because what you’ll find is I can have these conversations. I had a conversation recently, probably 20, 30 minutes, with some Christian guys in America, and we could have a respectful conversation about what’s happening through that lens, through that lens of that there is an evil that is possessing. There is a snake in the garden, and it’s corrupting women. And then women are corrupting men. And that women, sorry, men, are aware of the snake. Snake, but most men are not aware of how this snake has perverted women.

 

And so the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read] is we need to normalise Patriarchy. I’m a big, big proponent of Patriarchy. I think that Patriarchy is the only way to save the White race. We cannot save the White race through feminism. We cannot save the White race through equality. We can only save the White race through a proper Patriarchy. A proper Patriarchy! And whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, enlightened, not enlightened, Catholic, orthodox, doesn’t matter! We cannot solve male, female. It does not matter! We cannot solve this problem without Patriarchy.

 

Now, it’s very easy for me to acknowledge Patriarchy because, one, I had a really good father. I have a really good father. My father’s still alive. I have a really good father. A really good father! And he has his flaws. Absolutely! And that’s product of environment and breeding and everything else. Right. We all have our flaws. I have my flaws. Product of environment and breeding and circumstance. But we’re on a mission! My bloodline has definitely been through the wars, and we’re on our way back up. All right. There’s a few more generations of work to do to really get us back on track. But I’m part of a Patriarchy. I have a lot of respect for my family name, my line, my lineage, my ancestry. This is really important to me.

 

And, it’s easy for me to accept and acknowledge this harsh reality. It’s not even a harsh reality. This reality because of what I come from. Women that have good fathers can accept this as well. Most women that can’t accept Patriarchy, they don’t have any respect for their fathers. And they don’t have respect for their fathers because their fathers don’t deserve respect.

 

Respect is not something that you’re entitled to. It is only earned. And I know that’s a platitude, and some people might think that’s a meaningless platitude, but that is absolutely core! Respect is earned! You’re not entitled to anyone’s respect. This is, I think, a false enlightenment principle that, like you should just respect the retard being moved around in the wheelchair. Like, what? What planet are these people on? Like, why that makes you a good person? How does that make me a good person? You know what quality of life is the drooling retard, God? And why are we wasting all our tax dollars paying for the drooling retard? This is solved very easily by Patriarchy. It’s not just solved by having a department in government that deals with the problem. It’s solved by Patriarchy.

 

And so one of the first principles of Patriarchy is that every man is king and priest and judge of his own house! I’ll say it again, for those that aren’t listening. The first principle of Patriarchy is that every man is king, is priest, is judge of his own house! And general. That was a component as well. There’s a martial component to it. And so every son, every boy wants to respect his father for the man that he is. And I can’t empath into how girls think, because I’m not a girl, but I would assume it’s similar. Not the same, but I assume it’s similar. I obviously have daughters. And you know what I was sad about when I was growing up? Not sad, but one thing I was surprised at was I asked my dad why he never joined the army. Because I know his dad was in the navy or in the Defense Force. I know his granddad was in the army.

 

And I remember asking my dad:

 

“Why weren’t you in the army?”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, look.”

 

Because they had the draught for the Vietnam War, and he was of that age, and he just never got called up. So he was like:

 

“Oh, I got lucky!”

 

That was his answer. I think he said something:

 

“I got lucky. You know, you put your birthday in. You had to register. You put your birthday in.”

 

And he said something about “balls with birthdays” on them. Like, it was like the lotto. Like, they’d pull a ball out. And if it was like, March 18th, which is my dad’s birthday, then you’re going, you’re signing up.

 

And I thought that was absurd! But it’s one way to do it. I mean, it’s fucking clown world! But anyway, that was his position, was like:

 

“Oh, he got lucky. He avoided it.”

 

And I always thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool? I always thought, wouldn’t it be cool to walk into my dad’s office and he’s got all his, like, armour and his rifle? And I just had this idea of like. And it’s probably ancient. It’s probably something like an altar, like an altar to Mars, like an altar to masculinity, an altar to the Patriarchy. And then to be able to see my grandfathers and you know there are families that still, they keep all their family medals, the war medals and stuff.

 

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But I mean let’s put that on steroids. It’s not just having like the medals, it’s like walk in and be able to see like generations and generations of uniforms and rifles and, or even before going all the way back to a family sword. That just, that idea is just so cool! And I think every like 10 year old boy thinks like that.

 

And if you don’t, you’re probably a faggot, or maybe you had the idea but in a different way. But if that doesn’t seem cool to you, yeah, fuck you basically! I don’t know. Yeah, you’re not in my gang, that’s for sure. You’re not in my tribe.

 

So back to the woman question. So [chuckling] respect, respect. You can respect that. And I didn’t respect my dad as much as I would have if we had something like that. If my dad had something like I kind of lost a little bit of respect for my dad when I was like 10 years old. When I was like:

 

“Why wasn’t my dad. His answer was he ‘got lucky’.”

 

I was like:

 

“Huh, I don’t know if that’s luck.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like why would that be lucky? Obviously it’s a dumb war and blah, blah, blah and geopolitics is so broken and everything now.

 

But I think part of us is whether you go and fight in a war or not, I think men should be war-like. And I think the “retard budget” should be directed entirely into well first of all we shouldn’t be taxed as much as we are. So there shouldn’t even be a retard budget.

 

But obviously I like when we take power. I’m deleting the retard budget and putting all of it or most of it or some of it into building like the Stormtrooper halo suit Department. I’ve said this before.

 

To get back onto, someone just says:

 

“Fuck employment!”

 

[chuckling] Modern world does a Superchat:

 

“Thoughts on the employee question.”

 

I actually haven’t watched the podcast that young Michael Nelson did on the subject of employment but I can imagine what he was saying. My position has always been that you need to be productive, you need to be productive, you need to find a way of being productive. You don’t want to just sit around doing nothing! But you need to have times of sitting around doing nothing in order to think of productive things to do.

 

And when you’re in employment, like I have had nothing but issues with like Gen-X’s and Boomers that have employed me over the years where they want you to work 50, 60 hour weeks, they want you just in employment, they want you just head down and just hammer drill in the concrete and just ernnn! Or if you’re doing some other job that’s slightly more technical or less manual labour, it’s the same thing. It’s just head down and you’ve just got no time, no time to be a better man. You’re just stuck in a trap! You’re stuck in like a debt trap. And I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where anyone except slaves have worked six days a week or even five days a week. I just think that that’s slavery and they’re boxing us in. We’re getting boxed in and boxed in and boxed in! It’s so obvious what’s happening and it’s so obvious why Zoomers especially and Gen Alpha will be even more so, why people are checking out of this employee, … We’re just getting boxed in.

 

Like we’ve gone from nice blocks of land. There’s plenty of things to do, there’s plenty of animals to tend to. And then you work a couple days a week, you know, old mate needs help with something, you go help him, this guy and people were these warrior farmer builders first, and they were doctors and doctors and dentists and lawyers and tradesmen or skilled labourers second. And it was the pleb class. It’s always historically been the pleb class that became entirely microscopically focused on a singular trade. So like I do pottery, that’s all I do they live in a tiny little house in the city in Rome and they’re the Potter. And all they do is pottery and they just make pots and nothing else. And they do it six days a week, 12 hours a day. And they make pots and they sell the pots and they make pots and they sell the pots. That is what slaves do. That’s what slaves do. That’s slavery!

 

And so, but the whole economics is geared against us because of what they’ve done, because of interest, because of debt slavery. It’s because of debt slavery we can’t build intergenerational wealth where we can have big families on large plots of land where we can learn a whole bunch of skills and manage our farms and feed ourselves and look after ourselves in tight knit communities.

 

The whole economics is now geared that everyone’s a little bug, a little cog in the system. They do their little bug roll and they get their little bug ration and this is broken. This is not sustainable. It’s not going to last. How many generations is this going to go on for? Judging by how much Zoomers want to check out, I’d suggest that Alphas or Betas or what like two or three generations from now, if this problem hasn’t solved itself, I would assume things are gonna be very different.

 

[1:26:10]

 

 

And obviously tying this into politics we’re gonna completely change the zoning laws. Part of the problem with this is people living on 200 square metre little blocks, apartments, townhouses. Part of this is just so dysgenic. We need to not be slave bug people. We need space, we need land, we need multitudes of tasks. Specialisation is key. Don’t get me wrong. We built higher civilisation because individuals did hyper specialise into things. But making pots is not a hyper specialisation. You know what I mean? Like historically people did their specialisation part time. They’d worked a couple days a week doing, and it was usually what was called journeymen. They were usually journeymen like if they were a dentist, or a doctor or whatever and obviously there was no such thing as a lawyer. The whole system worked differently, like tradition, ancient culture and the higher becoming. We have better technology now, but it’s made us, I think we can do both. I think we can continue to improve technology without living like bugs. And I don’t think that interest slavery helped us increase our technology. The increasing technology is part of the life cycle. It’s part of the life cycle of civilisation. And it’s not going to continue progressing in this direction forever for two reasons. One, the law of diminishing returns. And two, we are destroying our stock. So we can’t. We’re going to be in a system decline. The car, the calibre of men that built the society. We can’t even maintain it. We can’t even maintain it.

 

And there’s an elite. They call it elite overproduction. But it’s not. It’s the false elite overproduction. We’ve built a false elite and that’s why these rodents that are all 100, 105 IQ, they got Master’s degrees. They’re absolute midwits! They’re not idiots, but they’re absolute midwits! They are the ones running this into the ground. We have allowed midwits to take over society!

 

And I’m not going to talk about what my IQ is because I don’t think it’s super important, but I think it’s clear that it’s at least one or two standard deviations above average. And we’re having midwits go through university, male and female, and then they’re taking elite positions, but there’s not enough elite positions, so they have to create positions for these other fake elites.

 

And that’s like psychology, for example. You’ve got so many idiots going through university and studying psychology. And so we’ve created a whole industry of government rebates here in Australia and in America you’ve got all this drug prescription and all this mental illness and all this compounding issues of the parasitism of psychology. Psychology, psychoanalysis, psychotherapists, all of this is a parasite economy. They’re all parasites. They’re all parasites! It’s one giant parasite economy! And the purpose of it is to continue to make the problem worse so that they can have employment. And so they will never, ever be able to solve the problem because a purpose of a system is what it does.

 

So that’s just one element of university that’s caused this over education. We’ve got this over education where if you don’t go to university, you’re a moron. And it’s like we have more engineers and architects than we’ve ever had and our society is uglier and more broken! So it shows you that exclusion is the rule to greatness. You need to be exclusive in order to create hyper specialisation. You can’t just send everyone to university or the vast majority of people to university, and then think:

 

“Oh my God, society is getting so much better!”

 

It’s like, no, we’re running off the inertia of intelligent, hyper selective people. And the show’s about to come to a halt. We have printed so much money! They’re literally printing like $8 trillion, not a trillion, 8 billion dollars a day in the US to keep their bullshit fake economy going. And it’s just leading to the Weimar conditions. And we’re going to pay for all of this. We’re going to pay for all of this.

 

And that’s why you need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. And I’ve gone off topic from Patriarchy, but it all ties together. You can’t cover the subject without covering it all. Obviously. I’ll take a pause and I’ll come back.

 

Someone asked me about the employment question. Yeah. You gotta have skills. Look, you gotta have skills. Home of the brave, says:

 

“Tom, you’re the embodiment of the spiritual healing of the entire European race. Hey, we approach phase one of total re-migration of nons in the West. Segregation. Stay safe!”

 

Nah, I can’t do that on the stream. It’s a good question. I appreciate the question. Maybe I can leave that to the end. I can’t do that at this stage. I have to cover the woman question. Celine says:

 

“As a younger White woman, I’ve had to come to terms with Jesus being brown when I’ve always pictured him as a tall White man. Jesus being brown makes me deny it. Christianity is more of a woman thing.”

 

I don’t necessarily agree with. I don’t know what Jesus looked like. But I’ll tell you a really funny story. I’m not sure if I told this story on stream. Obviously all the Christian identitarians are raging at you now because they’re all saying Jesus was blonde hair, blue eyed, Aryan. I saw a really funny post yesterday or last night where some guy was saying that Jesus was Italian. He was like:

 

“He was born in Judea of the Roman province of Syria. He was therefore Roman. He was therefore Italian. Jesus was Italian!”

 

I just thought it was funny. Obviously he’s not being serious, but I wonder what the implications of everyone saying Jesus was Italian would be. And whether that’s like a bit of an icebreaker. Because it’s like people say Jesus is a jew. Well, the Bible says Jesus is a jew. And then Christian Identitarian said Jesus was like a Nordic Aryan. And then it’d be funny if we just say like:

 

“We meet at halfway and say Jesus was Sicilian or something!”

 

That’ll [chuckling] cause drama, won’t it, that one! But that just would be funny. We’re like, Jesus was White passing. That’s like the compromise. Now I know you people don’t believe in compromise. They want it one way or the other. Maybe that’ll keep the peace for like five minutes. If we just say Jesus was Italian. It’s a theory. What’s the funny story? So someone in the conversation tell me if I’ve said this before on stream. I can’t remember. Some [chuckling] guy replied, “smartest women woman”. Look, I think I’ve only told this story in person. It’s story time. I might have said it once on stream.

 

[1:33:41]

 

So the last time I was in prison last year I was in solitary confinement and I wanted a Bible. Actually, this Bible right here, this one right here. King James. I wanted a King James Bible because I got my other prison Bible. This is the prison Bible I got the first time into prison. It’s the NIV*. Look at that. [chuckling] Presented to Thomas Sewell, Melbourne Assessment Prison. That was in 2021.

 

[* The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.]

 

Anyway. This is now:

 

“Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. Adam and his wife were both naked and they felt no shame.”

 

Genesis 3:16:

 

“To the woman, he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe. With painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you’.”

 

“Then the Lord said to Cain, where is your brother Abel? I don’t know. He replied, am I my brother’s keeper? The Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for. You will be a restless wanderer of the earth.”

 

Yes, well, they got the mark on him. And I really wonder when circumcision started and when the restless wanderers of the earth started getting the anti-semitisms on him. Anyway, that’s just a theory. I won’t go too deep into that or piss people off.

 

But anyway, I got that version and I read it in full.

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow, okay!”

 

I probably should have read this the first time, but I wasn’t ready because you kind of you read the Bible when you’re a kid and you just like, you don’t read it properly, you don’t read it in full. And when you’re in solid confinement, you get a lot of time to read the Bible. And I read the NIV and I was like:

 

“Whoa, okay, this is definitely eye opening.”

 

And everyone’s trying to convert me. And I’m like:

 

“No, I can’t. Like, I just read it. I just read the whole thing. Are you kidding me?”

 

And they were like:

 

“You read the wrong translation.”

 

So then this time I went to prison. I went and got a King James. It didn’t make any difference for me. But I do think the King James is a better Bible. But story time.

 

So how did I get the King James Bible? So when I got to prison this time I got sent to Barwon, which is a much nicer prison. It’s older, but it is better. And because I was in Port Phillip before that. And they wouldn’t give me a Bible, they took my Bible off me. I got another NIV. I got a wait, is that King. No. So that’s a King James. No, they took it off me, sorry. I got that one later I got another NIV and when I got transferred from Melbourne Assessment the second time to the prison, the Barwon prison, they took my NIV off me and I had to fill out a form to get another Bible.

 

And I was like:

 

“Why? Why would you take the Bible off me? I don’t understand. Just let me keep the book.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, it’s not your property. It’s the property of the MAP.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“So you’re going to send the Bible back to the MAP, back to the other prison?”

 

It’s just crazy! But they’re just there to fuck with you. That’s their existence. And they won’t even let a non-Christian man keep his Christian book. And so then I had to fill out a form to get a Bible. And to get a Bible you had to have a meeting with a priest.

 

So if you want a Quran, you could have a meeting with an imam. If you want to. Whatever it is what it is. I don’t know what the Buddhists have. But like there was these boxes you could tick. I ticked the Christian box and I picked the Anglican one because I’m an Anglo Saxon and I’m not a Catholic, I’m not orthodox, and my grandmother was Anglican. None of the men in my family went to church really, but the women did. And they were Anglicans and so, Church of England. So I picked the Anglican box and it took two weeks.

 

And then this guy, I get pulled out of my cell and I get put in like a visitor room and I’m put in there with a priest. And I’ll just check the comments. Have I told this story on stream? Because I won’t go into too much detail if I have. Oh Jesus, so many comments. Have I told this story before? I’ll just tell the story!

 

And so he was like. I asked him:

 

“Why are you Christian?”

 

And he told me a story. The priest, he said that when he was a teenager he was really angry and him and his mates went out to this golf course and they had a BB gun and they shot a bunch of magpies or something. A bird, I can’t remember what type of bird I think was a magpie. Magpies. And he just felt horrible! He just felt horrible about it afterwards. He had a lot of regret and guilt about killing these magpies.

 

[1:40:02]

 

And then, he was raised in a Christian household, in a Christian environment, but he just wouldn’t go to church. And after like leaving the Church for a year or two and kind of hanging out with the wrong kids and you know, doing bad stuff, like shooting magpies with BB guns, as like most 14 year old boys probably would if they had a BB gun, he started noticing the kids walking home from church. They just looked happier. They just looked happier. And he was like:

 

“I wanted that happiness. I wasn’t happy and I wanted that happiness. And so I started going back to church and I asked my priest, when I was 14, I said I want to be happy like the other kids, they’re all happy. Why am I happy? And the priest said to me, you have to surrender yourself to God. You have to be God’s slave. You have to submit yourself. And once you submit yourself, then you’ll be happy. Then you’ll finally find peace. Because you’re fighting God and that’s why you’re unhappy. And you just have to stop fighting. You have to give up! And when you give up and you let go, then you’ll finally be happy.”

 

And he says:

 

“Why do you ask?”

 

And I was like:

 

“So I asked because I’m not Christian, but I ticked the Anglican box because it was the closest thing that I could do. But what I really want is a Bible. So I’ve got something to read in here because they’re torturing me and I’d like a Bible.”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, okay, okay, yeah, but why do you want to know why I’m a Christian?”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, I’m just fascinated. I want to know your story. Like you’re a priest. Like you’re obviously highly motivated to be a Catholic, Anglican priest. You know, I just, I want to learn more about your journey and like how that, how do you become an Anglican priest?”

 

And then we talk a lot more about this subject. And he’s very, he’s very apprehensive. He’s very like on the back foot the whole time, very defensive. And yeah, just the way he explained it to me, I said to him:

 

“You know, do you still have this same attitude? Like, do you still feel this way about God? Is that your relationship with God?”

 

And he said to me, he said:

 

“I wake up every morning, and the first thing I do every morning is I pray to God and I say, God, I am your slave. Let your will be done through me! I am your vessel. I am your slave on this earth!”

 

And I was like:

 

“You do that every morning?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yep, that’s what I do.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow! That is fascinating!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“It is, isn’t it? And I know that might sound really intense, but it works. It works for me! And I’m so much happier. Life is so much easier this way. It’s just so much easier! Like, I don’t feel what I used to feel. And, look, I still have challenges, and I’m a grandfather now, and da, da, da, da. But life is just so much easier this way!”

 

Okay, [chuckling] what the fuck! Okay. Anyway, an hour goes by, we shake hands, and he goes:

 

“Nice to meet you, Tom. Blah, blah, blah.”

 

And then the second time I meet him, so I ticked the box again. I want to have another conversation. He says to me right at the end, he goes:

 

“Do you want to meet me again? Do you want to talk to me again?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely! I really enjoyed this conversation.”

 

“Are you sure?”

 

I said:

 

“Yeah, I really enjoyed this conversation. I really enjoyed it. I would like to meet you again.”

 

And he said:

 

“Okay, well, what about next week?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Maybe not next week. I need a bit more time to digest this conversation. But maybe give me two weeks.”

 

He said:

 

“Okay, two weeks, Same time, same day.”

 

I’m like:

 

“Excellent!”

 

So this is my only human contact. I’m in a concrete box for two weeks straight. And then I meet up with him again. He walks in and he’s nervous. He’s so nervous! And he says:

 

“Tom, I have to be honest with you. I Googled your name. I thought I recognised you, but I Googled your name, and it was really hard for me to come in today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh! Why is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“Because, … There’s a lot of people in this prison, and they’ve really beautiful people that have done really horrible things. And I’ve never felt like this before where I felt selfish that I didn’t want to come in. But I prayed to God this morning, and I said God, I don’t want to talk to this man. I don’t like this man. I think this man is evil, and I don’t want to speak to him. What should I do? And what God told me was that’s why you have to go speak to him. Because he’s evil. Because he’s evil, you have to go speak to him. That’s why!”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, okay, all right.”

 

And then I said to him:

 

“You ever spoken to a paedophile?”

 

I said:

 

“Have you ever felt that way about a paedophile?”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, no. There are some really beautiful people in this prison. Some really beautiful people in this prison.”

 

“Never felt that way about a paedophile? Okay, interesting! Well, luckily, you are God’s slave, and that God forced you to come in here today to speak to me!”

 

And [chuckling] he said:

 

“I want to show you something. I want to show you my God! I want to show you my God!”

 

And I was like:

 

“Okay, you want to show me your God?”

 

“Are you ready? Are you ready for my god?”

 

It’s this weird, passive aggressive, feminine. He’s got tears in his eyes. And he’s like:

 

“Before I do, can I ask you a question? Why did you want to speak with me?”

 

[1:46:16]

 

And I said to him:

 

“Because I told you the truth last time. My grandmother was an Anglican. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I ticked the Anglo box, not the Catholic box. Simple as.”

 

And he was like:

 

“But me specifically, did you know I was the Anglican priest. Me, personally?”

 

And I was like, I think his name was [changed]. And I was like:

 

“Leslie, I don’t know who you are. I just know that you’re an Anglican priest.”

 

He goes:

 

“You don’t know about my past?”

 

I was like:

 

“No, I don’t know. What is your past?”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I want to tell you a story, Tom. You know, I had to take a stand against, … I mean, there’s a lot of evil men in the world., …”

 

And he’s talking like a lesbian. He speaks like a lesbian, right? He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of, …”

 

Like a feminist. He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of evil men in the world. And Donald Trump comes to mind, and Adolf Hitler comes to mind. And when I was younger, there was a man that came to power in Australia that reminds me of Donald Trump, and his name was John Howard. And when John Howard came to power, he had an immigration minister called Peter Dutton, who you might know, because he was running for prime minister recently. And they imprisoned people in concentration camps on, …”

 

I think it was like, Manus Island or something, one of these islands off the coast of Australia:

 

“And there were these people, these desperate, honest, loving, caring, they were God’s children, and they wanted to come to Australia, and they begged for our help and our safety. And they were refugees, …”

 

And he’s literally crying! He’s literally crying!:

 

“And we locked them and their children in concentration camps on these islands and treated them so horribly! And I had to make a stand, so I went and visited them!”

 

So he goes to the concentration camp and he’s like. [chuckling] He says:

 

“And I like painting. And I met this man, and he was a refugee, …”

 

And I think he was Iranian or Iraqi or something like that. I think Iraqi. And he goes:

 

“And I met this Iraqi man, and his name was Fadim, …”

 

Or some shit! And he goes:

 

“I said to him, you are so beautiful! You are such a beautiful man. Can I paint you? I want to paint you. Will you let me paint you?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Yes, I’ll let you paint me. And then I painted him.”

 

And it’s hot. It’s so weird! He’s holding a, he’s got like a, he’s got the, … Imagine this is the painting of the guy, but he’s got it like this, and he’s holding it on the table, and he’s holding it upside down. And he’s holding upside down on the table, and he’s like:

 

“I want to show you this. And the reason why I want to show you this is because when I was painting him, I looked into his eyes and he was crying. He had tears in his eyes as I was painting him. And I was painting him. And the whole time I was thinking about Jesus on the donkey going into Bethlehem as a refugee, needing safety. And I thought, this man is from that region. This man is from the same region, very similar region, near the Euphrates. And he’s a refugee as well., …”

 

You can predict the whole conversation, can’t you? Like, I’m drawing it out, but I’m drawing it out for effect. This was the tone this guy was taking with me.

 

“And I still remember. And I thought to myself, this is what Jesus would look like, and this is how Jesus would feel if he was here right now with us, seeing what John Howard, behaving in a fascist man manner, putting these innocent people in concentration camps! This is how Jesus would be looking at me. So I painted him. So I painted my God! This is my God, Thomas! This is my God!”

 

And then he shows me a painting of a brown man crying. And he’s like:

 

“This is my God! How do you feel?”

 

A picture of a brown man crying. And I was like:

 

“Fascinating! Fascinating! That’s your God?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I want you to have this. I want you to put this up in your cell.”

 

And I was like:

 

“No, no, I don’t want it. It’s your painting.”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, this is a copy of it. This isn’t the one I painted. This is a copy. I want you to have it. I want you to put this in your cell and I want you to look at my God! And I think that will really help you and I think that’s why I was sent here today to give you this painting.”

 

And I was like:

 

“It’s a decent painting. You’ve done a good job painting it, for sure. This is not my God! This is your God. This is not my God! I can’t put this in my cell. It’s just not my God! Not my God! There are many gods. This one’s not mine. This is your one!”

 

And [chuckling] that was the end of the conversation! And yeah, fuck, I’ve just had too much life experience at this stage! [chuckling]

 

[1:52:11]

 

And when I got out of jail, I’m gonna Google this church that this guy’s from. And it’s like gay flags and trans rights and refugees are welcome and all this shit!

 

And it’s like [chuckling] women pastors! These people, they’re sick! They make me sick! People in the chat saying, Jesus’ Italian. Man. A lot of, lot of Superchats to go through. Jeez. How much more do you want me to go, in a detail about that one? Oh, I don’t know what it is. It’s not dopamine, but it’s some sort of chemical. There’s some chemical in the brain. It’s just surreal! It’s like a surreal chemical. It’s not dopamine. It’s the surrealism of it. It’s the surrealism. Hyper, hyper, what do they call it? Hyper realism. How are these people real? They share this planet with us. What planet are they on?:

 

“I felt really bad for the magpies. That’s why I had to go back to the Church!”

 

Well, yeah, obviously you shouldn’t just like indiscriminately kill animals!

 

But what he was doing at 14 was what all 14 year old boys do, is they’re testing themselves. They’re seeing, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I put meat on the table? Can I put meat on the table?

 

And I said to him:

 

“Are you a vegetarian now?”

 

When he talked about the magpies, I said:

 

“Are you a vegetarian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, I’m not, but I make sure I thank God every time I have meat. And I thank God for what’s happened to the animal and pray for the animal.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough. That’s good. I respect that.”

 

I have a lot of respect for that. I think that’s important when you take life and you’re consuming that life. Trans. The transmutation of it. Transubstantiation. Yeah. Like you’re putting meat on the table and you shouldn’t indiscriminately kill, but you’re doing what all teenage boys do when they’re going through puberty is they’re seeing not just if they can do it, but they go over the top. You know what I mean? They go a little, you go a little bit over the top and then you dial it back in. You’re like:

 

“All right, that was unnecessary.”

 

But he’s gone, he’s dialled it back in so much that his God is a brown man crying. That he has to live with White people!:

 

“He has to come live with the White people! He has to! We have to let them in! We have to!”

 

This is what his God wants. So look, obviously if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this, you would be disgusted by that story, that this is the calibre of priests. This is not Patriarchy. This is not the original church. This is not anything like the Greeks or the Romans or the Hebrews or even the jews. This is like the jews don’t even behave this way. This is like sub-Aryan and sub, even sub-Hebrew behaviour. And like ancient Hebrew, if we’re going to call it that. But this is like a completely poisoned chalice and these people are church leaders.

 

And so, yeah, it’s been completely infiltrated by communists. This is the downward path. They’re cherry picking document a book that has a lot in it.

 

As I said, the Bible’s a million things! There’s a million words in it. There’s a lot going on in that book. You can cherry pick whatever you want to articulate something, but what you can’t lie about is the general progression of themes and the general moral structure that the Bible is putting forward.

 

Now, is there, in my opinion, contradictions of the moral structure? I think there are some things that, and I’ve discussed them, I won’t go into them today. But you’ve all heard me say what I think is contradictory in there, within the moral, within the framing of a lot of things. And in short, I don’t like the story of Jacob and Esau. I don’t like that story.

 

Well, I mean, I don’t like the character! I don’t like the individual. And I don’t like the moral of that story. I think it is either miswritten or it’s not correct, it’s not right, it’s not fair, or there’s missing data, something’s missing from it. In my opinion. Like that would be the only way I could describe it as a moral story. Anyway. But the Bible’s full of that, of this kind of fight of morality. And you can see the schism of morality. You can see the schism of an ethnicity or the schism of a people are schisming, which is I guess one of the main themes of the whole text.

 

But if we just come back a little bit and we don’t talk about the Bible and Christianity, we just talk about the theme of Patriarchy, which is beyond just Christianity. I think that’s one thing the pagans and Christians can both agree on, is that we need Patriarchy.

 

And I think the Christian view is that women are inherently prone to an evil influence, just as men are, but that it infects the women first. And you can kind of see that with how giving women the right to vote and the late Enlightenment values of total, absolute human equality led to the suffragettes and led to women voting and led to first wave, second wave, third wave feminism that has come out of that structure. And we can see the damage that that has done to society. Anyone that can’t is obviously an idiot! But we can see the damage that it’s done. And yet women are also capable of fixing the situation. That’s also interesting.

 

As I said before, when I started women, more women voted for Adolf Hitler than men!

 

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So that is a very redeeming quality when you realise that. Well, hang on a minute. Why? How could that possibly be? How could that possibly be? And what that might give a little bit of Credence to is this idea that when there is a strong leader, when there is a return of masculinity and a return of Patriarchy, women are actually more inclined to notice it than men. Women are more intuitive to the cure than men are. They’re more sensitive to the disease, but they’re more sensitive to the cure as well.

 

So I had a thought that ran through my head yesterday or the day before, which was, if we don’t contain women or restrain women, who will? Who’s going to? Because what we can see by the decline of the last hundred years of civilisation is we have removed the barriers, all barriers, every barrier possible, and said:

 

“No. Men and women are exactly the same!”

 

And we have done this to the detriment of women. We have not improved their life, and more importantly, we have not improved civilisation, and we have not improved the fucking mission. And the mission isn’t to make women happy. I want to make that very clear. That’s not the mission. It’s not to make men happy either. You know what this guy’s talking about? It’s like he accepted God because he wanted to be happy. That’s what Nietzsche talks about. That’s crazy! Well, it’s not crazy, but it’s like, that’s not why you should accept God. That’s selfish! That’s not the mission. Morale is not your happiness. It’s your willingness to fight. You have to fight for a mission. You have to fight for a purpose, for meaning.

 

And I believe you have to fight for life itself. Life is an upward struggle. And my religion, my personal religion is what my interpretation of Hitler’s religion is, which is that it’s about struggle into victory. And that these things aren’t necessarily steady states or acts of being, but they’re acts of becoming. Struggle is an act of becoming into victory, which is also an act of becoming.

 

So it’s never ending. It never ends. It’s like beyond time because God has to be above time. God can’t be subject to time because then he’s not God. So God is above time. So therefore, struggle and victory have to be conceived as being principles above time. That it’s like infinite struggle for infinite victory. It’s just like a yeah, it’s like you got a hail victory and you got a hail struggle. You got a hell struggle to hail victory! You know, which is a bit. Yeah, a bit different to:

 

“I just wanted to be happy! I just saw all these people around me and they were happy. And I just wanted to be happy. I just wanted to be a good person because I was a bad person!”

 

You know what? Yeah. [chuckling] Very different sense of moral structure and moral framework. So yes, Patriarchy, restraint, it’s about building a world that is driving towards this goal. And the relationship between men and women in that world is one built off respect, not pandering.

 

And so the issue with our society at the moment at a just socio-economic level with 50, 60% divorce rate, with the family courts tearing families apart like all the societal diseases we’ve got, is about, what they all come down to regarding the bad relationships between men and women and is that women have on average more respect for the government and more respect for the system, for the justice system or for the police than they do for their own husband and their own father. That’s the issue!

 

So a system needs to be built by husbands and fathers that form a collective, that form an organisation that are all on the same page with how they’re managing their family. It’s up to them how they manage their family. But they’re all roughly on the same page as to how they manage their family. A nation is a collection of families. It’s not a bunch of gay men masturbating into each other’s assholes and adopting kids. That’s not a nation. That’s just craziness! A nation is a bunch of families. You know, the family is the building block. This is not a meaningless platitude. It is the truth! You cannot have a nation without families. Because a nation is an extension of the family.

 

And so therefore the leader of a nation has to be the extension of the leader of a family. And the leader of the family is the father or the grandfather or the great grandfather, if he’s still alive. Like that is the leader of the family.

 

And that’s how society has always worked. And it’s a sacred, ancient, basically unwritten rule. I mean, we don’t even need to write this down. This is a reality.

 

And anyone that disagrees with that reality is our enemy. Because they disagree with it, because they care more about something else than making our society, our civilisation, our blood, our spirit, our life force, move upwards. They care about something else. They care about some sort of momentary happiness or some sort of:

 

“I want to feel good. I want to get along with everyone.”

 

Like this is their God, this is their God!

 

And so those people shouldn’t be given the same rights as the Patriarchs, as the people that acknowledge that:

 

“Hang on a minute. We’ve tried that. What it leads to is like millions of Indians and Arabs and Africans coming into our country and just like raping and pillaging and destroying it economically, socially, and sometimes unfortunately, physically.”

 

And these consequences are obvious. And we’re going to structure society in a way that this doesn’t happen going forward. So yeah, it’s non-negotiable. I’ll go through the comments and wrap up the stream.

 

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Where are we? Where are we? Celine’s got another question. Just something about I don’t like Christians. Cool. Three story Rory:

 

“G’day, Thomas. What do you think about starting a petition for Joel Davis similar to one for Brandon Koschel? Chances of their release are low, but this activism can rally support and drive attention.”

 

A petition? I don’t understand what a petition is. Yeah, I’m not in the petition business because it doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. There’s a petition to deport me to New Zealand with a hundred thousand signatures, and yet here I am in Melbourne, Australia.

 

So look, the way we get Joel out of prison is either he’s released because the Supreme Court has a sense of the law and will enforce the law and the law says that he should be released from prison. And the Supreme Court follow through with that because the magistrates certainly don’t uphold the law. They’re activists. They’re political activists that do what the politicians tell them to do. That’s the only way to get him out of prison. Or we wait for the infinity amount of time he’s got to be in prison.

 

But yeah, sorry, a petition is not going to do anything. It’ll help raise awareness and that’s really the purpose of petitions. But no, I’m not in that business:

 

“Thank you for your sacrifices and bravery. God bless!”

 

Yep, thank you. A lot of comments. A lot of comments. Fanny Schrute says:

 

“Jesus was Italian.”

 

I think that’s the way to go. Someone gives me $100 for the cause:

 

“No need for acknowledgment.”

 

Thanks, mate. Celine’s got another one. Something about KGV, Shakespearean old English language. Stone Mountain:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women versus infidelity in men? And are our highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

Oh, that actually brings me to what I was meant to talk about the manosphere and stuff and we just end up talking about Christianity. Yes. That actually brings me to the second half of the stream, and we’ve been going for like two and a half hours. It’s crazy! This is madness, guys!

 

Yes, yes. Look, let me get a glass of milk. Let me get a glass of milk. And I have all these thoughts that I’m gonna put down. Because there’s just been so much chatter about the manosphere and looks maxing and Louis Thoreau’s recent thing. And I made a little post. Obviously most of you have probably already read my post, just explaining, the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read]. These people that are trying to embarrass the manosphere, which is quite easy, clearly. These people are not morally triumphant. These people are equally as bad, if not worse than the manosphere. And don’t get blindsided by this and fall into some trap where you’re going to take moral, what’s it called? Not legalisms, like lectures. Don’t take moral lectures from these freaks! These people are easily as bad, if not worse than the manosphere people. The manosphere people, a lot of them are not good people. I want to make it clear this next segment is not in defense of the manosphere. I’m not saying that. I’ll explain how you should accurately interpret why this phenomenon exists and how it needs to transmute into something much better. I’ll be back. I’ll just close this little thingy. Two minutes.

 

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DJTriumph
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18 hours ago
the James Mason podcast was great
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FLmetalhead
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Where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Jaymeo1
12 hours ago
Link ?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
11 hours ago
Where is it?
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baileyspunts
13 hours ago
Man i love when Sewell streams. White pill every time
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LachlanMD
21 hours ago
L foids
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RoseRock444
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19 hours ago
Nah. W foids
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Jomaha22
20 hours ago
Every time I see that text “manosphere” I cringe. Where did this analogy came from? Ayn Rand male equivalent?
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
im guessing its the “every single time” crowd
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christophawilkins
16 hours ago
hail
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
great to see another talk mate
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squatmech
18 hours ago
There never anything wrong with the volume wtf is wrong with these people it’s like if you get kicked out of hundred bars but with low volume…
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eclipseNF
14 hours ago
What’s the 5 hour stream where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
9 hours ago
Thanks a lot

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
whats gonna get too us 1st, terminator or mad max?
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CrazyRecluse
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Mad Max. These fuel shortages are serious & AI cannot become conscious – it is built from outside-in, life evolves and self-builds from inside-out.

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
ive never heard of any abbos trying to claiming other abbo land that was taken in their tribal warfare, but the land whites took on the other hand will always be theirs??? and dna shows the have only been here for about 5000 years, coming from india and they were not the 1st people in australia, the originals were eaten by them.
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TRUTH1488
11 hours ago
Where can I find that james mason podcast
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Tax_Cow
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5 hours ago
Our boomer parents have been hooked on the TV since childhood and they’ve been soaking up jewish propaganda for so long that they aren’t capable of independent thought. Despite whatever their friends and family say, what the TV says is the bottom line. Unwitting agents of our destruction, professing to be enlightened because they watch the talking heads on TV every night.
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Tom, im glad you still give Abos a chunk of land as their own country. African americans & native americans are similar. Thats the best way. I like wat you are doing but im softer on nons. I feel that at this point we may have to give all nons a chunk of western nations, as their own nation. Set cameras up and make documentaries on how they make a clean 1st world society to a 3rd world shithole. Juxtapose it with our first world living. This way we will document in 4D why we will never live with them again. We would play multiple weekly reality TV shows akin ‘Running Man’ & ‘Hunger Games’. This would change our culture. Then we will make museums to store these films and all the injustices we suffered with/from them. Especially the lil caps. Then maybe in the future we might decide to conquer them & retake the land, and put them where we want, maybe isntreal? Or put these brown masses in africa, or somewhere low on resources, since they cant mine them anyway. Tom, I also think 90%+ whyte is a good target. Because the good ones that help us have a reason to. But once we have control we can create policies to reduce their breeding over time: a white centred society; they will admire us or leave; we will be re-morale-ized; etc. If they dont want to accept it, they can always leave. Caramel island is an alternate choice for them too.
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birdhouse456
15 hours ago
The problem with “where is the aboriginal land” is that their concept of it completely different to ours. We look at different metrics. They can’t just pick up and move their culture because it’s linked to place. If they don’t want to give that up they will be motivated to go to war regardless. Or, they’ll just be squeezed out and fade away, because once they are away from their territory the culture doesn’t function. Now we have a hybrid that succeeds at neither way. Maybe there can be agreement with some tribes but others will disappear completely. it’s similar to the clans of the Scottish Highlands. The culture survives, but it’s not what it was.

BossLurker
9 hours ago
Parasites and retards

BossLurker
9 hours ago
The whole “in the past they weren’t truly conservative they were only going off inertia” is actually an extremely good point

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BossLurker
8 hours ago
Around 59:27

leibekohne
5 hours ago
Tom you have some criticism from USA NS bit-chute or odysee. The abos solution is good. I will give them a bare-bush land without any infrastructure, also they have to create own if needed financial system with own currency. This is about purity and recuperation of race thus Australia + has to be 100% white otherwise there will be no progress.Those idiots want to convert abos and save theirs lives but had no problem with murdering 35.000 white Boers woman and children. Cake destroyed Egypt Greek Roman empires by usury and by miscegenation. 1000 year of Romans were destroyed by 100 years of Christianity=Judaism 2.0= children blood drinking sacrificing cannibalism. Germany were destroyed in WW2 by another stupid and manipulated white men who should know better. White international unity.

CrazyRecluse
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56 minutes ago
Tom, I emotionally agree to boot out all leftists, or white antiwhites. But something for you to consider: Richard Spencer says that whites can build because we have all levels of people Elites, managerial class & working class. Dr Ed Dutton “white race functions like a bee hive”. So we might need to select the better ones and put in breeding policies to get them to their 15% balance. Because nearly all managerial class are leftists.

eclipseNF
14 hours ago
More and more blackpilled every single day
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
life is struggle mate, learn to laugh in the face of these demons and keep the sprits of our ancestors lovingly in your heart. heil victory
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trvkvlt
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Thomas Sewell is my rabbi
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drshreddie
6 hours ago
you need a better background, the baby blue with the books isnt working. How about a more masculine color with a NSDAP banner? I know this seems trivial but perception is a big deal and your message is important.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Dean McIntosh: Hello there, guys. At the risk of sounding like every other YouTuber out there, I’d really appreciate it if you’d click the subscribe button. It’s free, it doesn’t cost you anything and it allows my channel to grow, which means guests like the one you’re about to watch, as well as more, would be willing to come on! Just give it a like, give it a subscribe and we’ll go from there.

 

All right, thank you and enjoy this episode.

 

So today on Laments, I’ve got Mr. Mark Collett. Mark, how are you doing?

 

Mark Collett: Hello, my friend. It’s good to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me on. I’m looking forward to having a decent chat with you.

 

Dean McIntosh: No, no, thank you.

 

Now, for those that don’t know who you are, if they were to Google you get some quite derogatory terms come up. People call you, I saw “Hitler Simp” when I was doing my research. I think simping is something to do with OnlyFans girls. I don’t know, I’m a bit old for all that shit! The neo-Nazi, Nazi. How would you describe yourself?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I describe myself as an ethno-nationalist. I’ve always described myself as a nationalist.

 

But now there seems to be sort of two camps. You have the sort of civic nationalists and you have the ethno-nationalists. I’m an ethno-nationalist. I am English, I’m proud to be English. And I believe that White Britons, i.e., the English, the Scottish and the Welsh, they deserve a homeland just like any other ethnic group. And my belief is basically that we as a people need to turn around the demographic changes taking place, because I don’t want White Britons to become a minority.

 

And secondly, I want to ensure that Britain is run by the indigenous people for the benefit of the indigenous people. So I want us to remain a super majority in our homeland and I also want our homeland to be run for our benefit rather than for the benefit of people who are foreign or for the benefit of foreign countries.

 

Dean McIntosh: You know what, I’m not going to lie. That sounds like it’s right out of the playbook of Restore Britain. Do you know Rupert Lowe?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I mean, Rupert Lowe is now talking my talking points, because I’ve been doing this since 2000. I’m now 45. I’ve been doing this for 26 years. I first got involved in this when I was at university. And it’s very interesting to see that the things that I was de-platformed from X, for the things that I’ve had my bank accounts taken away for, the reasons I’ve been banned from any form of foreign travel are essentially now the policy points of people like Rupert Lowe.

 

So the things that I face such repression for over my lifetime are now the talking points of a sitting MP. And it tells you that there is a massive vibe shift at the moment. What we’re seeing is this unprecedented political change where people are talking about things that at one point were seen as highly taboo. And it was quite a taboo thing.

 

And as I said, I have suffered sort of quite heavily because of my political beliefs. I’ve been doing this, I’ve been consistent in doing this for the past, 26 years.

 

But now these things are breaking into the mainstream. They are being spoken about in Parliament, and obviously Rupert Lowe’s now got 100,000 members who obviously agree with these talking points, which is incredible because obviously I was in the British National Party at the height it had 14 and a half thousand members. We got two MEPs elected to Brussels, but it was nowhere near on the size and scale of what Rupert Lowe’s doing. Now that doesn’t necessarily mean Rupert Lowe’s gonna win a general election, but what it does mean is that there has been a huge change in the way people think and people’s willingness to talk about race, ethnicity and demography.

 

Dean McIntosh: It’s interesting you mentioned that, actually. I had one of your compatriots or previous compatriots, Nick Griffin on a few months ago. And it gives you the vibe shift, as you mention it. I think that scored 10,000 views at my last check and I had lots of people saying:

 

“Yo, you can’t speak to Nick Griffin!”

 

I got a lot of abuse for it as well. And I thought:

 

“You know what, I’m just going to talk to the chap and get his side of things.”

 

Which is why we’re having this conversation as well. I don’t go by other people tell me, as you’ve probably seen, Mark, you’ve seen my channel. I go by going to the source, go to the horse’s mouth sort of situation.

 

So, yeah, you were part of the BNP, which is why I think you get slated as much as you do. Obviously, as we’ve just said, these conversations around race and ethnicity are now breaking through. You’ve got Rupert Lowe, not sort of spearheading that, but he’s definitely picked up the baton and is running with it. His party is doing very well. It’s interesting, really. He talks about re-migration a lot. He talks about millions must go. I know you know Steve Laws and he’s a big fan of or big, big promoter of re-migration. What’s your view of that? Do you think that we should get rid of everyone that isn’t English?

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I do believe that millions should go, but I have or both myself and the people I work with have always said we would like Britain to be around 95% White British.

 

And if you stated that as a point, I think that’s something that most people who are reasonable could agree with. We’re not saying that every single person who’s got a tiny drop of foreign blood must go, but lots of them do have to go. And we have to bring about a situation where the indigenous people, these islands, are a super majority and a stable super majority.

 

So we don’t want to say 95%. Then in five years it’s 90%, then in another five years it’s 85%. We don’t want to go back down that road. So it would have to be a figure where the indigenous people were an overwhelming majority and that majority was maintained.

 

Now when we’re starting to talk about people being sort of sent home or expelled or remigrated or repatriated, as we used to call it in the BNP, you know, we’ve got to talk about this sensibly. There are 21 million people here in Britain today who are not White British, who are not indigenous or have some kind of mixed race heritage.

 

Now if we were going down the route of mass re-migration or repatriation as we used to call it, there is a sensible way of approaching this. And we’re not talking about putting 21 million people on boats in a single year and getting rid of them. There would be a system of doing this which would be sensible. It would be, it would obviously take people’s needs into account.

 

So the first people you would send back would be illegal migrants. Because really there are three types of people in this country who are not indigenous. There are people who shouldn’t be here because they’re illegal migrants.

 

So you’ve got the illegal migrants, you’ve got Visa overstayers, you’ve got people who have no legal right to be here.

 

Then you’ve got people who’ve got a legal right to be here but are not British citizens. They are people who are citizens of other countries that have gained residency here, work permits, visas. They might be studying. They’re here, but they’re not actually British citizens. Then finally you have the third group, which are people who are here and are not indigenous to these islands, and they have British citizenship.

 

Now, they’re not indigenous, but they have a passport. They have attained citizenship.

 

Dean McIntosh: Right.

 

Mark Collett: Now, obviously, if you were to bring in, look, if somebody gave you sort of like Marvel superhero powers and you were sort of Thanos and you could just snap your fingers and these people all disappeared, that would be all well and good, but that’s not how it works in the real world. And there’s a lot of people who say, like:

 

“Oh they’ve all got to go! They’ve all got to go!”

 

But you have to put forward a policy that would actually work. And you have to realise that you couldn’t do this overnight. It couldn’t be done with the snap of your fingers. So you deal with the first group first. And the first group were illegal immigrants.

 

Now, day one, they would all have to go. You would have to start rounding them up, and you would have to start deporting them. They are here illegally. They have no right whatsoever to be here. And they have come here, and by the mechanism of coming here, they have broken our laws. And we do not want criminal migrants here. I think that’s a fair point.

 

Dean McIntosh: Are we talking about the ones coming across on the boats and things like that?

 

Mark Collett: Anybody who is here that has broken the law to be here and has broke, whether you are a visa overstayer, whether you are somebody who has entered on a small boat, whether you are somebody that has Stowed away in on a plane or in a lorry on the Channel Tunnel, makes no difference. If you are here illegally and you have broken our laws to enter this country, you go immediately! So you would deal with the first group with a stroke of a pen.

 

Now, the second group are people who are here legally but do not have right to remain because they’re not British citizens. So they do not have a passport. You would deal with them rather swiftly as well. You would wait until any work visas ran out. You would not reissue them. Any of those people who were here and were not British citizens and that were out of work claiming benefits, they would have to go. You know, why on earth we have people here in Britain who are not British citizens, but they are claiming benefits? I don’t know.

 

I mean, I don’t think you or I would be able to turn up in Japan or Nigeria or India and immediately be able to just go to some government office and start getting free money. So you would then ship them out.

 

Then you would look at people who were here through the Visa scheme or here through some temporary measure who had broken the law. Now, anybody that comes into our house and violates our laws and breaks the laws, they will be leaving.

 

And I think that’s a sensible policy as well. And over time, you would drastically reduce the number of foreign nationals living in Britain, starting aggressively with lawbreakers and people who were claiming benefits.

 

And eventually, over a period of time, people would run down their visas. Those visas wouldn’t be reissued, the foreign nationals would leave. And you would make sure there was no birthright citizenship. So even if they had children on British soil, that doesn’t give you the right to remain. And I know that America has gone down that route recently. Donald Trump has attempting to abolish birthright citizenship because people have these, what are known as anchor babies, which allow them to stay. And that would leave you with the third group.

 

So the first two groups, the illegal immigrants and those here legally who are foreign nationals, you would deal with those two groups extremely quickly, and those problems would be solved. And that would leave you with people living here who are not indigenous and who have British passports, essentially British citizens, but not natives.

 

[11:24]

 

Now, they would be dealt with in a number of ways. We could offer them reasonable grants to leave, and at the same time we could pass laws that essentially bring about something that the government keeps crowing about the government always talks about equality, doesn’t it? We always hear about the importance of equality:

 

“We’ve all got to be equal, we’ve all got to be treated equally under the law.”

 

Well, no one gives me 150 pound an hour interpreter to go to the council office. So we’ll treat everyone with a British passport equally. And if they don’t speak English, they’re not entitled to benefits. If their children don’t speak English, they’re not entitled to go into the educational system, they’re not entitled to state education. If you don’t speak English, you are not entitled to an interpreter in hospitals because all of these things are inequalities which put White Britons at a disadvantage. We pay for these things, but we don’t get these benefits. And that overnight would begin to incentivise people with British passports to take the grants to leave.

 

We would ban full face coverings in public. We would ban kosher and halal slaughter and the importation of meat that was slaughtered in a cruel manner. And overnight you would see millions choosing to go home.

 

And we would also look at people who had British citizenship but also had citizenship of other nations. So if there was a Jamaican man, let’s say, and he had both British and Jamaican citizenship and he had raped someone, he would have his British citizenship stripped. And that would be completely legal under international law, because any nation can strip a citizen of their citizenship if they have citizenship of another nation where there is a grey zone under international law. Not that I’m a big fan of international law, but this actually does abide by. It is if you strip somebody of citizenship and they don’t have citizenship of another nation. So you couldn’t strip somebody of British citizenship if they didn’t have a dual citizenship and couldn’t go anywhere else. But there are many people living in Britain who have a British passport but are dual citizens. And dual citizens that have broken the law, committed benefit fraud, have never worked, don’t speak English, they could have their citizenship stripped.

 

And over time, what you would end up with, it might take five years, it might take a decade, I don’t think it’d take much longer. But you would see a dramatic turnaround when it came to demographics. It would create a hostile environment for illegal migrants. It would more or less cut immigration to zero. And you would see a massive number of people leaving. And over five to 10 years, the demographic shifts would be drastically reversed! And you would also stop paying the people who are here and aren’t indigenous to have children.

 

I’ll give you a great example. Labour lifted the benefit, the two child benefit cap. Well, which three ethnic groups in Britain have the largest family size on average? I can tell you straight off the top of my head and list them in order.

 

Number one, Pakistanis, number two, Bangladeshis, number three, Indians. So people who come here from the Indian subcontinent have by far the highest birth rate and the largest family size. Labour are currently paying them to breed by lifting that benefit cap. By lifting that benefit cap, Labour are putting in place a form of indirect discrimination that pays certain migrant communities to have children. There would also be policy reversals like that again, that would see thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions leave simply because that policy was reversed.

 

And once you’ve done that, you would end up with a small number of people here, 5%, who were not White British. They would be fellow Europeans. There would be a limited number of people of mixed race origin who were half English and say half something else, because they can say:

 

“Well, look, I do have partial English heritage or part Scottish heritage.”

 

Whatever, but it would be a manageable number that was maintained and did not start to creep above that 5% threshold. And then it wouldn’t be discriminating against people like a man who, say, has a Polish wife or, somebody who was of mixed European origin, but their family had lived here for sort of 50, 60 years. And I think that would be fair. I think most people would accept that the idea of sending people home doesn’t have to be one of people marching down the street in uniforms, pulling people out of their houses and loading them into sort of lorries at the point of a bayonet. Sensible policy change would turn this around.

 

And if you extend that, an extension of that, is once you understand that sensible policy change could turn this around, you understand that it is policy change, bad policy, that has brought us to this point. A mixture of horrendous government policy which has created both push and pull factors, has incentivised millions of people from overseas to come to these islands because we treat them as first class citizens and we treat the indigenous people at best as Second Class and at worst a hated minority that are preyed upon by the people who arrive here!

 

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Dean McIntosh: It does seem everything you’ve just said sounds like it could have come from Restore or Advance Britain. It really does. And like you say, it has crept into the discourse. Yet, what, five, ten years ago you were vilified for these views. Now you’re no longer part of BNP. I don’t think Nick Griffin’s part of it anymore. Do you know Simon Tomlin?

 

Mark Collett: You might want to cut this bit out, but Simon Tomlin, …

 

Dean McIntosh: I don’t edit anything. I do not edit anything.

 

Mark Collett: Well, Simon Tomlin’s a strange guy that has all these fanciful stories of, …

 

Dean McIntosh: Right.

 

Mark Collett: Of what he’s done and where he’s been. He’s written all these sort of strange books. Some that claim he’s an MI5 spy, some that claims he was on the run from MI5. He has these fanciful stories that he was this big player in the British National Party. He wasn’t!

 

In fact, he’s kind of a strange guy. You can look up his criminal history. He was arrested and actually jailed for stalking and harassment of a woman who was in the wider nationalist movement. This can all be found quite easily. He’s not somebody that’s a fan of me. He’s really a Walter Mitty that makes a lot of things up.

 

Dean McIntosh: The reason I ask is obviously he’s got his own podcast. I’m not name dropping anything, but it’s The Daily Agenda, obviously, I’ve seen it. He has mentioned you. I just wanted to know your side.

 

Mark Collett: He mentions everyone. He’s one of these people who is endlessly embroiled in a series of beefs with different people. So he rages about me, he rages about Steve Laws, he rages about Tommy Robinson, he rages about Nigel Farage, he rages about Rupert Lowe, rages about Nick Griffin.

 

Now, I’m not saying all those people like one another. And some of those people don’t. You know, I like Rupert Lowe, I like Steve Laws, I don’t like Tommy Robinson. But he doesn’t like anyone.

 

And if you look into him, you’ll find out that he is a Walter Mitty that lives in sort of this little pocket universe of his own creation. He’s written a load of these really strange books. One of his books claims he has magical powers or something like that. He’s a very strange guy. All of this is on the Internet. You can Google it if you just put in sort of “Simon Tomlin, Eastwood Advertiser”, it comes up with his attempts to sort of get the Eastwood Advertiser to remove headlines about him which relate to his stalking and harassment, which he was jailed for. You know, this guy is not a nice guy. He’s not a good guy. He’s a very strange guy that makes up that he’s had this big sort of impactful career in nationalism. He hasn’t. I never met him when I was in the BNP. He never did anything of note when I was in the BNP, he might have been a member briefly, and he’s fallen out with everybody that you could imagine.

 

So, yeah, he’s not a big fan of me, but he’s not a big fan of anyone.

 

Dean McIntosh: No, no, that’s fair enough.

 

Now, moving on from the BNP, we talked about Re-migration Now, and Steve Laws. How well is Patriotic Alternative doing? That’s your party, isn’t it?

 

Mark Collett: It’s not a party. We are a community building organisation. We believe in three things, community, advocacy and activism.

 

Now, we attempted to be registered as a political party. The Electoral Commission blocked us numerous times for ridiculous reasons. And we eventually, when Nigel Farage came back into politics. Well, when Nigel Farage came back into politics, we were still trying to become registered as a political party and we weren’t allowed to.

 

So we had an agreement with the English Democrats. We gave them our people who wanted to stand as candidates. We gave them our activists in order to leaflet for them. And we worked with Steve Laws and the English Democrats to field a number of candidates at the general election. Almost as soon as we announced that Nigel Farage came back into politics. This was 2024 at the General election. And at that point it was over before it even started. Nigel Farage is one of those people who is a political juggernaut and his involvement in British politics carries so much weight that the previous Reform Party conference, when it was being run by Richard Tice, had around 300 people present. When Nigel Farage got back involved they were filling the Birmingham MNC, you know, one of the conference centres, the Birmingham MNC. Nigel Farage is such an influential and successful man that if you are going to take on populist Right-wing politics when he is active, you are going to be carving out a tiny, an almost, I can call it embarrassing, really, an embarrassing number of votes. You have this niche because he’s going to take everything else.

 

So at that point, we stopped applying to the Electoral Commission. We said:

 

“Let them get on with politics, let them get on with this battle for Westminster, and we will do what we do best.”

 

And what we do best is community building, advocacy and activism.

 

And what I mean by those three things is community building is we hold meetings with, we hold social events, we hold camps, fitness events, and we build an ethno-nationalist community. We carry out advocacy. Advocacy is where we fight for the rights of our people. We raise money for political prisoners, we write to the Prison Service and advocate for the rights of political prisoners. And we take up cases on behalf of people who are of our ethnic group who need our help. So we advocate for the good of our people, for the rights of our people.

 

And the final part is activism. We also go out on the streets. We’re part of the protest movement. We were recently at the large protest in Warwick and we are going to be holding another one of those protests in Nuneaton at the end of this month on the 28th of March.

 

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So if you, if any of your viewers would like to attend that, we would absolutely welcome them. I am doing that in conjunction with Steve Laws. There was also the National Front there was also White Vanguard, there was also the British Democrats. Other groups who want to attend are welcome to attend as long as they stick to our code of conduct and agree to behave in a reasonable fashion. Numerous speakers spoke there, myself, Laura Towler, Hugh Anthony, Steve Laws, and we are going to build a powerful ethno-nationalist protest movement.

 

So by doing those three things, community, advocacy and activism. We are building something very different to a political party.

 

Now, that means that when Restore Britain was formed, not that it has been formally registered yet, it wasn’t something I was particularly concerned about. Now, I can imagine a lot of people running micro parties were very upset and probably very depressed at the thought of Rupert Lowe starting a political party.

 

Because if you were running a micro party, the day before Rupert Lowe started his political party, you probably thought you were going to hoover up everything to the right of Reform.

 

However, when Rupert Lowe started his party, he gobbled up everything there. And now, if you are running one of these micro political parties that’s got a hundred, 200, 250 members, you’re not going to eclipse Rupert Lowe. In fact, you’re going to be completely eclipsed by Restore.

 

So the political ground now on what you could say the populist Right, has been completely gobbled up by Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe. We, on the other hand, are going to keep doing the things we do. There is no other group in Britain that takes the approach we take. We are very open to working with other groups. The Woodlander Initiative, Remigration Now. We work with people like David Clews from Unity News Network, and we build, and are happy to build a coalition of groups that want to work together for the good of our people.

 

So we’re very open to unity. We’re not trying to carve out some little niche for themselves and get involved in these sort of bun fights that you see a lot of these micro parties involved in. And by basically being unshackled from the electoral process, it allows us to do the things that are important. And it also means that if we feel passionately about something, we can pursue that without having to say:

 

“Well, look, general public, we need you to vote for us. So we have to sell this thing that you probably won’t understand or agree with or believe in, to you.”

 

We’re not really bothered if the wider public doesn’t support some of the things we do. If the wider public doesn’t support our prisoner support program, well, so be it. We don’t have to sell it to them because we’re not going down the electoral route.

 

And a lot of these micro parties are constantly trying to sell things to the British public that they don’t understand or can’t get their head around properly. And then they get 1.2% of the vote. And it’s all been a big waste of everyone’s time and money. And we simply don’t want to go down that route.

 

Dean McIntosh: No, Fair enough.

 

So there’s a big sort of ethnic push from your side of things. I get that vibe. We’ve had a chat about it for nearly half an hour. I understand that. So what about people that aren’t ethnic nationals who say yours, Steve Law’s ideas, contribute to hostility or division of the British society at large?

 

Mark Collett: Well, that’s a really, … Well, how can I say this politely? That’s a stupid point to make! And it’s a stupid point to make because the British people were not divided until mass immigration took place.

 

The greatest division between the British people when we were an island nation made up of England, Scotland and Wales was when we played rugby against each other or football against each other. You know, as a young man growing up in Britain, when England played Scotland, it was a big event. When Paul Gascoigne, you know, ran down the middle of the pitch and scored that absolute screamer of a goal. You know, the English cheered and laughed and the Scots cried. And that was the division in Britain.

 

The divisions in Britain now are much greater. And they haven’t been created by White Britons or by ethno-nationalists. They’ve been created by politicians who have brought other ethnic groups here that are so different to us. There is no hope of these people fitting in. They have created a multi-ethnic sectarian society and that has been created by design! That is not the fault of people like me who speak the truth! It is not the fault of indigenous Britons who by and large have always been against that level of mass immigration and that sort of immigration. And there are different types of immigration. But mass immigration from the developing and Third world has been something that the vast majority of White Britons have always opposed in one form or another.

 

The fault for all of this lies at the feet of the politicians who have done this without our consent, against our wishes, and have created this sort of ethnic or racial tinderbox which is now causing so many problems!

 

And when I say that, I’m not just talking about White on non-White. There are multiple different ethnic lines which create divisions. Hindus don’t like Muslims. Shiites don’t like Sunnies. There are different black gangs that murder each other on a daily basis because they come from different postcodes or have slightly different ethnicities and ethnic loyalties. We don’t want any of that here! Britain should not be a battleground for all these different ethnic groups. It should be our homeland. It is our homeland and it should be a place where we feel safe to go about our daily business and raise our children!

 

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Dean McIntosh: You know what, that’s a very interesting point because when I was born in 86, so when I was a younger chap, Whites weren’t Whites. And I say that as a broad term. You know, White, Europeans, English, whichever term you want to use, were the majority.

 

And it seems like things have got progressively worse now. People would say it’s migration. People say it’s the small boats. You could point a finger in many different ways. But what I want to get to is a different point entirely. Going back to my earlier point, doing my research on you before I reached out, obviously they call you all these names and they tied you all these different things.

 

So what’s your view on Israel? Now the reason I ask that is because they charge you with being a Nazi, obviously. See where I’m going with this conversation? But Israel, from what I can gather through my research is, and through people I’ve spoke to out there, is an ethno-religious state where everyone, I assume, everyone is Israeli, jewish. Obviously you’ve got different sects of Judaism in there, but for the most part, Israel is supposed to be like a safe zone, a safe country for jews, regardless of what type of jew you are. It seems funny how Tommy is saying that the Israelis should have a state of their own, an ethno-state, an ethno-religious state, but not the UK. And that we’re like almost like a Brazilian style melting pot. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but be honest.

 

So what’s your view on the Israel side of things? Because it seems like everyone’s okay with that, but when it’s the UK wanting an ethno-state, then it’s wrong.

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, this is the greatest hypocrisy of our time. Powerful jews who live in Britain and wield vastly disproportionate power. They’re a tiny percentage of the UK population, but they wield vastly disproportionate power in terms of the number of seats in Parliament, in terms of their influence over Parliament, and the way that they distort both our domestic and foreign policy. These jews wield huge amounts of power. But not only do they wield huge amounts of power, but they do so in a way which is fundamentally not only to our detriment, but also hypocritical.

 

So people who support Israel, especially powerful jews the British Board of Deputies and the little lap dogs, like little Zionist lap dogs like Tommy Robinson, they will tell you all day and all night that Israel deserves to be an ethno-state, that Israel is a place for the jews, that the jews have a right to a homeland, that they have a right to a homeland which they can defend, where they can control their own borders, that they shouldn’t be taking refugees, that they should be able to do what they want to their neighbours. Some people that Tommy Robinson has just met, the disgusting fat blob in America called Randy. Fine. He will tell you that in fact Israel has the right to starve the Gazan children. Disgusting! But these same people will tell you that actually White Britons do not have the right to be a super majority. That we don’t have the right to our own ethno-state, that the English do not have a right to a homeland, that we should share our homeland with everyone else.

 

So the British Board of Deputies will say:

 

“Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself! The British government should defend Israel, we should send money there, we should sell them weapons, we should allow them to do what they want in defense of their ethno-state.”

 

But then when somebody says:

 

“Well look, there’s tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming into Britain every year raping White girls, attacking young men, claiming huge amounts of benefits, living in hotels, huge amounts of taxpayers money.”

 

I think it’s about £8 million a day is spent housing these people in hotels. The British Board of Deputies will turn around and say:

 

“Don’t be so racist! Refugees welcome!”

 

Why? Why is it that these people who support Israel, who support an ethno-state for jews and wield this huge amount of power, are all completely behind a place for jews, but don’t think the English have the same right? That’s a massive hypocrisy.

 

And Tommy Robinson is a scumbag! Tommy Robinson is a guy who will fly around the world campaigning for the rights of jews. But if you ask him, should the English remain a majority in England, he will reel off 101 reasons why black people should come here, Indians should come here. He was outside the Iranian embassy the other day making clips about how he would allow more Iranians to come here because they’re good people, they don’t create problems. Why? Why do we have to be the nation that opens its borders, welcomes everyone in, hands everything to them on a plate, and then watches our own people become a minority, and a hated minority at that, whilst jews get to do the very opposite? And why are the people that advocate for open borders here the same people that advocate for closed borders and an ethno-state in the Middle East? This hypocrisy needs to be called out.

 

And this is why I’m banned on X. It’s why I can’t get a bank account. It’s why I can’t travel to places like America. And it’s why Tommy is making millions of pounds a year! It’s why he travels everywhere. It’s why he’s got the freedom to do whatever he wants. It’s why he’s spending £455 on a T-shirt and £5,000 on a pair of shoes. It’s why his son is traveling around as an influencer on private jets. It’s because if you bow to these powerful jews and you advocate for Israel, you will be paid for doing. So you will be given freedom, you’ll be given the right to do as you please.

 

Whereas if you say:

 

“Hey, there’s some hypocrisy is going on here, you will lose everything like I have.”

 

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Dean McIntosh: So you called out what you saw as a double standard and, …

 

Mark Collett: Massive double standard! Yeah.

 

Dean McIntosh: And they smeared you as a Nazi and you’ve been de-banked. What countries are you not allowed to go to? You said there was more than one.

 

Mark Collett: 29 European countries plus a complete ban from North America.

 

Dean McIntosh: Just for calling out, calling it how you see this!

 

Mark Collett: For speaking about two things. Speaking about demography, and who controls Britain. Those two things. I speak primarily about demography and I talk about the disproportionate power that Zionists wield in the West. Those are the two things I talk about.

 

And if you look at what’s going on in the world or what has gone on in the world over the last few years, I can tell you this unequivocally, there is no other nation on the planet who would be allowed to indiscriminately slaughter women and children in multiple different countries, kill foreign leaders, starve refugees, and attempt to drive millions of people out of their homes without international condemnation, sanctions, and even military action being taken against them. But Israel can do all of those things, and all we do is send them more money!

 

Dean McIntosh: Right, Okay, I didn’t know any of that. So that’s all a learning point.

 

Mark Collett: You must know that! I mean, look, come on, you’re an educated guy. You must know what’s been going on in Gaza. Look, I don’t want Palestinians here in Britain. I want Britain to be for us, but also I don’t want to see Palestinian children being slaughtered. I don’t want to see aid workers being strafed by Israeli jets, which has happened. You know, how many foreign nations or how many nations on the planet would get away with killing aid workers, delivering medical aid, food and water to women and children and it just be brushed under the carpet?

 

You can Google all these things. Israel is essentially a country that has subverted Western domestic and foreign policy to the point that they have the complete ability to do as they please, even to commit genocide, which the UN has determined that they have done. The UN has determined they have committed genocide in Gaza. Yet America, Britain and numerous other countries are still dancing to their tune and nothing will happen about it.

 

Dean McIntosh: Okay, so that all to one side. I’ll just put a pin in that for a moment. Do you think, two points to this question. Do you think that the jews should have a homeland, a jewish state of their own? And second point is a lot of people that have come out as ethno-nationalists and Catholics and Christians recently have said that they are Zionists, that they believe that Israel should have a right to exist regardless who lives there, I think it would still exist, personally, but like as it is so do you think this is people just toeing the line and Israel should be there or shouldn’t be there in its current form?

 

Mark Collett: I will say this, and I’ll start this with an interesting point. I have said today at the beginning of this, you asked me sort of about re-migration. I laid out what I believe to be a very sensible, humane and lawful way about ensuring Britain remained ethnically homogeneous and a stable ethno-state. None of that was illegal. None of that was a call for violence.

 

Yet for saying those things, you can be de-platformed. You can have Prevent at your door. You can have the police looking at your social media accounts and potentially arresting you, you can be de-banked. You can have a travel ban put upon you. Okay, for just saying what I said earlier, which I think were pretty reasonable points.

 

Now you have Israel killing children, starving refugees, assassinating foreign leaders, destabilising sovereign nations, arming terrorist groups like Al Nusra Front in Syria, which are just the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda. You know, if you believe that Al Qaeda were the ones that blew up the twin towers on 9/11, why is Israel funding them and arming them and giving them air cover? Because that’s what they’ve been doing. Now I believe that all people all over the world deserve an ethno-state, okay? They deserve their own place in the world.

 

And I’m not saying that jews do not deserve a place in the world. But what I’m saying is, why do powerful jews use their power in the West to silence people like me for saying something reasonable, like I said earlier. Yet they support a state in the Middle East which is committing genocide and war crimes.

 

Now, this is the thing, isn’t it? And what I’m putting to you today is not that jews don’t deserve a place to live. What I’m putting to you today is that jews are creating an ethno-state for themselves whilst denying that right to people of European descent. People like us the English, the Scottish, the Welsh. And isn’t it funny that every single time Israel strikes a foreign nation, Israel was heavily involved in the war in Iraq. Not on the ground, but in the preparations. And this all came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. Tony Blair said that he did meet, you know, leading Israelis who helped America and Britain not with information about important military sites in Iraq, but with making the decision to attack Iraq illegally.

 

[42:11]

 

Now, Israel has destabilised Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, and now Iran. They do all this. But where does the flood of refugees and displaced people go when Israel commits these actions or prompts the West to commit those actions? They all come here! So wars for Israel in the Middle East, which help Israel grow, ensures Israel’s power and position in the region, only create floods of human traffic that come into the West. And we pay for it twice! We often pay for Israel’s military excursions. We often carry out their dirty work. And then there is always blowback. And the blowback is huge amounts of people leaving the Middle East and we face the blowback. How’s that a thing? How’s that fair? How does this keep happening?

 

Well, it keeps happening because powerful jews in Britain silence people like me who speak the truth about this. And they pay people like Tommy Robinson pay them handsomely. Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousand, millions of pounds a year. They build up their social media accounts, they fly them all over the world so that it appears that the populist Right in Britain, who should be enraged about what’s going on right now in the Middle East and should be saying:

 

“Whoa! Whoa! We need to back away from this!”

 

We shouldn’t be supporting Israel. We don’t want hundreds of thousands of Iranians coming to Europe.

 

But instead, Tommy Robinson stood outside the Iranian embassy saying:

 

“Oh, no, no, we should let them in! This is great! We’ve got to support Israel!”

 

This is all part of the Greater Israel plot or scheme or plan to create a powerful state for jews in the Middle East. But at the same time, what does it do? It reduces every other sovereign nation to either flames and destruction in the Middle East or here in the West. It reduces them to multicultural states.

 

And once we become multicultural states, once we lack in-group preference, once we are riven with division, our nations, our countries collapse. And it leaves one country in the world towering above everyone else! And that one country is Israel.

 

I don’t want to be ruled by Israel. I don’t want to be ruled by Zionists. I want England to be ruled by Englishmen for English men! And I don’t want to see Western nations belittle more than military puppets for a Zionist regime that cares nothing about White people!

 

Dean McIntosh: That almost sounds like the, what was it? The melting pot, Kalergi Plan?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, that’s what it is.

 

Dean McIntosh: And for those that don’t know, they should go have a look at it. Something about every nation becoming a well, no ethno-states anymore, essentially, wasn’t it?

 

Mark Collett: But yeah, but there is one. That’s the point. So powerful jews in the West campaign for multiculturalism in every Western nation. They pass laws that discriminate and silence, discriminate against and silence ethno-nationalists. They support mass immigration, they support all kinds of policy Reform and social changes that reduce White birth rates. But they do the very opposite in Israel.

 

So there is only going to be one group of people in the world who have a homogeneous, powerful ethnocentric state! It’s not going to be us.

 

Dean McIntosh: So why do you think they’re pushing this?

 

Mark Collett: I think it’s pretty obvious from what I’m saying. They covet power and they want to be the, … They understand that power comes through ethnocentrism. That power comes from understanding in-group preference and understanding that if you have in-group preference and you stand together as a group when everyone else is either divided, atomized or pursuing individualism, your group will be the most powerful.

 

So let’s say you have a room full of a hundred people, 100 people. Now, if there’s a group of 20 amongst that hundred who work together and look after each other and act as a group and always have each other’s backs, no matter what, numerically they are still a minority. They only make up 20% of those in the room. But if the 80% are all bitterly divided and act only as individuals, the 20% can dominate the others. Now imagine that on a global scale, every nation is at war with itself, riven with division. Every nation is, or all White people pursue this individualism. Then ethnic groups come to Western nations and it all gets divided. They all become multi-ethnic sectarian societies where people compete for resources, they compete for money, they compete for a better slice of the pie for their particular group. So they’re all divided.

 

But in the Middle East, there is this one nation that acts for itself, that acts for the good of its people to make sure that it is the pre-eminent state in the region. They have this huge amount of power by sticking together. And we just don’t have that. And largely we don’t have that because policies that the jewish diaspora, both social and legal policies that the jewish diaspora was pushed for in the West, has left us atomized and isolated. You know, our family units have been broken down. People pursue materialism. Rather than wanting to have children. We are all looking after ourselves. We’re all looking after, you know, short term our desire for short term pleasure.

 

Dean McIntosh: Okay, okay.

 

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Mark Collett: And if anyone doubts me, right, I think we’d all agree, everyone watching this is probably going to agree that the feminist agenda has been damaging to the family unit in the West.

 

The idea that women should, rather than embrace a man, they should compete with a man and attempt to do sort of male centric tasks to prove that women can do everything. And in doing that, they certainly shouldn’t marry a man or settle down or have children with a man, because that would undermine their individualism, their strength and their ability to show men that they can do it all on their own! Well, who’s pushed feminism? Just go on Wikipedia and type in list of jewish feminists. It’s pages long! Pages! Who brought about feminism? Who’s pushing pornography? Who owns OnlyFans? Look who owns it? Who owns Pornhub? It’s a rabbi! It’s a rabbi!

 

Dean McIntosh: Is it really? I didn’t know that.

 

Mark Collett: Who is pushing all of these things upon our people? Who owns the media? There are charts out there that list all the people. Who writes the books about, “White privilege”? Who are the professors in university that are teaching young White people to hate themselves and to rebel against their ancestors and despise their history?

 

Now, I’m not saying it’s all jews, and I’m not saying it’s only jews that do this. But jews are vastly over-represented in the kind of activities that I’m talking about. And are often people who play roles in these activities that could be described, they could be described as “instigators“. They are people that play central roles in getting movements started that are ultimately detrimental to our long term survival.

 

Dean McIntosh: Okay. That’s a lot of food for thought, to be honest. But I just want to bring it back to the point about Western nations being divided. I’ve seen more and more of it as I’ve got older, and I’m 40 this year. And it was never this bad.

 

I mean, yeah, you’d have like the occasional, we all knew some twat who was a bit of a racist or someone who’d make a gay, … There was always someone who had a gay joke or whatever. And I remember, I think we peaked in the 90s where nobody gave a fuck!:

 

“Okay, you’re gay. Oh, I don’t agree. You don’t agree. Whatever. People don’t agree. But okay, that’s your business. Oh, you watch porn, that’s your business. Oh, you’re black, you’re Muslim, it’s your business!”

 

All of a sudden. I’ve seen over the past, call it 15 years, there’s this massive sort of merge of everything being a problem now. Where do you think that has come from?

 

Mark Collett: Well, it’s come fundamentally from hate crime laws. It’s come from a huge shift to essentially cencored speech. I mean, what’s wrong with making jokes about gay people? What’s wrong with making jokes about anyone? Because you sure as hell can make jokes about White people! You can make jokes about straight White people, White families, you can make jokes about Christians, so why can’t you make jokes about Muslims? If you make jokes about straight people, why not about gay people? If you can make jokes about White people, why not about black people?

 

The fact is, the policing of our speech has been something that has accelerated drastically, both in terms of legislation through the government and in terms of the way the media have weaponised the idea that if you say something that’s unpopular, you should be hounded, you should be banned off social media, you should lose your job, and you should face social repercussions which are so strong that it leaves people sat in their houses feeling as if they can’t speak their mind and bottling everything up.

 

Now, look if you happen to be gay, which I don’t think you are, …

 

Dean McIntosh: I’m married! [chuckling] To a woman. To a woman!

 

Mark Collett: But if you’re gay and you want to do that in your bedroom, it’s up to you. Right? But why do we have to have grown men walking down the street in bondage gear, performing sex acts on each other on a Saturday in broad daylight in the middle of August, in front of families going out shopping. Why has it gone?

 

Dean McIntosh: Actually, it was the podcaster, Andrew Gold. I met him last year at the Battle of Ideas in London. He actually said, I’m sure it was him. He was at a Pride march, just good to see what it’s like. And he saw two men doing that in the middle of the day.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, but why do we have to see that? What you see, this is an interesting thing, isn’t it? Why has it become normalised? Why have the people in power made it normal for two gay men to perform sex acts on each other in broad daylight at a festival and then termed it “Pride”?

 

Well, again, it’s an attack on the family unit, it’s an attack on decency, it’s an attack on morality, and it’s attack on children.

 

And ultimately, that last point is more prescient than ever, because you can see what they’re doing to our children. It’s constant sexualisation, abuse, trying to get children to accept things which are absolutely sick and twisted!

 

And a lot of this then is all wrapped up in careful marketing. The word “pride, rainbows, love is love”. Well, is any of this good for us? Does any of this make life better for regular folk? Is any of this actually helping? Because they would talk about safeguarding, don’t they, safeguarding children, whilst a Drag Queen is reading to them. And the Drag Queen’s associated with another Drag Queen who’s committed sex offences against children and then goes on to die after having sex with a dog! You know, those are the sort of people that these people say, “love is love”, want your children to be exposed to. And women take this, because one of the core British values, we’re told, is “tolerance”. Well, I say that tolerance is not a virtue, it’s a sickness! It’s a sickness that has been pushed upon us. And many Western people now are afflicted with that sickness.

 

And we need to purge that sickness, and we need to be less tolerant. Because, remember, tolerance isn’t a good thing. You tolerate something that you don’t fundamentally like. You take a walk to the shops and you tolerate the stone in your shoe because you’re thinking:

 

“Well, it’s going to be a short journey and it’s raining, so I don’t really want to stop and take my shoe off and get the stone out.”

 

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But the stone’s hurting your foot. You tolerate things that you don’t like or that harm you, and you tolerate them to your detriment until you can tolerate them no further.

 

Why is it a virtue to tolerate things that harm you and your family? It’s a virtue because the people in power have twisted everything and turned it against us. Even our core values that now apparently underpin our society are actually evils that do anything but underpin our society.

 

They destroy traditional British society! They destroy any last ethnocentric pockets around the country in order to leave White Britons as isolated, atomized individuals who are then prey to ethnocentric groups brought here from overseas who are handed everything on a plate and often learn to hate us when they arrive here. Because as soon as they get off the boat the first thing they’re probably given is a nice hotel room and some money. But if they start doing some watching of the television or some reading of the books, they’ll soon learn about how the White man is evil, how British people oppressed everyone, how we’re basically demons in human skin that have this great privilege and have been keeping them down for not just decades, but for centuries, maybe even millennia! What is this? Well, it’s a system of not just replacing us, but it’s a system of turning us into a hated minority who are preyed upon by those brought here to replace us.

 

Dean McIntosh: And that’s a very sort of deep point as well. I know we’re sort of getting pressed for time. We’ve got about 15 minutes left. I know you, …

 

Mark Collett: Look, this is why people like Andrew Gold won’t debate me. There’s people like Andrew Gold and Liam Tufts and Tommy Robinson, fundamentally cowardly people. They would never debate somebody like me because I can actually answer what they are saying. I can actually put these points over in a relatively articulate and engaging way. And it’s why I’m so heavily banned. I’m not banned because I’m making ridiculous points. If I was making ridiculous points and I was some kind of racist caricature, I would be on X and I’d be boosted to the moon, because then everyone would laugh at me and say:

 

“Look, this guy is ethno-nationalism. That’s why we don’t want to be ethno-nationalists!”

 

So they get rid of people like me, and then you have people on X who do things in such a clownish way. They’re getting millions of views, but they look like complete idiots and they embarrass our cause. They’ll turn up and do street stalls with two or three people dressed in what looks like a Hitler cosplay outfit. They’re allowed on X and they will get millions of views for doing that because people are laughing at them.

 

No one’s gonna let me go on X and get millions of views because what I’m saying is relatable. And when people do upload clips of me on X, like Jake Shields recently did, they go viral, you know, hundreds, thousands or millions of people see them and go:

 

“Why isn’t this guy on X? I agree with everything he said. How is it I’ve not heard of him?”

 

You’ve not heard of me because I’m basically the most banned man in Europe because what I say makes sense! And anyone that fact checks it the points I’ve made about IDF planes killing civilians and killing aid workers, they’ll find out it’s all true! And then they’ll be like:

 

“Well, why didn’t I know about this?”

 

Well they didn’t know about it because there is an aggressive agenda in place to keep the truth from you.

 

Dean McIntosh: Okay, okay.

 

So what does the future look like? If we could fix things, what would the future look like if, say, I’m a Harry Potter wizard and you’re Prime Minister tomorrow, Mark, what are you going to do to fix the country?

 

Mark Collett: Well, like I said the first thing you do is you’d stop immigration. You would then start a system of repatriation or re-migration. As I said, and I laid it out earlier, you would put in place lessons in schools which taught White Britons to be proud of the great things that their ancestors did. Why is it wrong to have national pride? Why is it right to teach White kids that their ancestors were evil slave owners, when in fact Britain was the one country that on a global level opposed slavery and essentially brought it to an end? So if slavery is the big evil, why aren’t our kids taught, well, you’re actually the descendants of people who ended slavery! That’s what the British Empire did!

 

Dean McIntosh: It did. Yeah, yeah.

 

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Mark Collett: Instead we’re told:

 

“Oh, your ancestors were White. White people own slaves! You know, self flagellate a little more, White man, hate yourself a little more!”

 

These are simple policies that could turn things around. Repeal the ridiculous hate crime laws, tear down the facial recognition systems, put an end to digital ID, enshrine things like jury trials, have free speech for everyone in Britain, build an ethno-state, a high trust, high IQ, ethno-state for indigenous Britons, where our children are safe to play in the street, where men and women feel safe to voice their opinion when something’s going wrong. Build a country where you have a representative democracy that really represents the people!

 

Why is it a taboo to point out that democracy, which is another one of these apparent “British values”, doesn’t work? How many people are there in Parliament that actually represent our views? 2, 3 out of 650 seats? We just want a better world, and we don’t just want it for White Britons. If you said to me:

 

“Mark, what about other people?”

 

Well, yeah, I want the same for the Japanese. I want the same for the Indians. Let India be an ethno-state! Let Afghanistan be ruled by the Afghans! I was against the war in Afghanistan. If Afghans want to live under the rule of the Taliban, as long as they don’t threaten their neighbours or us, let them. If the Japanese want to live proud, ethnocentric Japanese men and women that honour their ancestors, just let them. Let everyone control their own destiny, live within their own areas. We can trade. We can visit each other. There’s no reason why we can’t have the Olympic Games or the World Cup. We can even learn from each other, if we wish to.

 

But the fact is, good fences make good neighbours! Every group of people, every ethnic group, has their place in the world. But why should it be on the same street here in England? It shouldn’t! You know, Japanese people in Japan, Nigerians in Nigeria. Why should they all be on the same street in England competing against each other for a slice of the pie?

 

Dean McIntosh: Mark, that’s a brilliant, brilliant end to this episode. Thank you ever so much for your time today.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! If people want to hear more from me, check me out on Rumble, check me out on Telegram, check me out on Gab. I mean, all those good places. I produce regular content like this.

 

And if you do give me a sub, I will be very grateful. Thank you so much!

 

Dean McIntosh: I’ll put all the links down below in the description.

 

 

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@evolassunglasses4673
2 weeks ago
Brilliant guest.
In group preference is completely normal around the World. Mankind is tribal. White people are finding this out the hard way.
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@DMLaments
5 days ago
Thank you kindly
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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
Can’t argue with a word he’s said. All very reasonable.
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@Keribou109
2 weeks ago
Thank you for having Mark on
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thank you for watching
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@homebusiness8166
2 weeks ago
Britain, England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland.
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@HopyHop1
10 days ago
Ireland has the same problem.
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@Livinginlanguage
5 days ago
I think Britain is England, Scotland and Wales while the United Kingdom includes Northern Island,
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@disillusioneddisappointed
2 weeks ago
most of our ancestors were HUMBLE POOR FARMERS. NOT rich slave owners!
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@Lakers-u2v
2 weeks ago
Exactly! I hate when you have people like ian wright constantly go on about whote this and white that. It’s our country!! Dont tell else what we have been. Get out of you dont like us.
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@Benjamin-j5t5u
2 weeks ago (edited)
Mark is a true Patriot who loves his country and it’s people. What is wrong with that. Restore Britain
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@Veyron1967
9 days ago
Maximum of 38 months to next election yet Rupert hasn’t even registered his party.
I can’t decide whether Lowe has been tricked by the establishment to dilute Reform’s vote, or if he just hates Farage so damn much he’s willing to risk another eight years of left wing destruction.
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@evolassunglasses4673
7 days ago
​ @Veyron1967 Reform have on solutions. Its better we start building something new NOW
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@manchesterlass600
3 days ago
@Veyron1967 untrue – the application is in and just waiting for approval by The Electoral Commission

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@JacksonFairweather
2 weeks ago
Good to see Mark Collett back on Youtube. He has been banned by every platform possible, and deserves to be heard.
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@PatriotViolet
2 weeks ago
Wow your guest has put into words my every thought
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@LegendofLovecraft-b7r
6 days ago
Hail Collet!
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@maxhession9797
5 days ago
Mark Collet has ball of fucking steel and deserves ALLL of the respect and ALLLL of the love. We as british people have the duty to protect this man
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@ayupmeduck5708
5 days ago
Fluent use of the English language is a must, no exceptions.
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@kevinsavage808
2 weeks ago
Best interview from Mark for a long time. Allowed to speak and answer good questions put to him. Good Interviewer….
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thank you kindly
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@paulsmith8858
12 days ago (edited)
No, he didn’t challenge him on anything!!!

@kevinsavage808
12 days ago
​@paulsmith8858he didn’t need to, all true, you can’t argue with the truth
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@Gudha_Ismintis
2 weeks ago
the ‘Frankfurt School’ has a lot to answer for
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@Wjfiswjei183
2 weeks ago
Oy vey!
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@nationalist9904
2 weeks ago
Very true, Professor Kevin MacDonald goes over Frankfurt school and others in Culture of Critique. Essential reading to understand how we’ve been subverted
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@Costa_del_Artlepool
2 weeks ago
He’s always on point and a very compelling speaker. It’s plain to see why they make life so hard for him.
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@johnlondon5516
2 weeks ago
He said AIDS was a kind disease because it targeted gay men and drug users.
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@Costa_del_Artlepool
2 weeks ago
@johnlondon5516 Kind AND based then?
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@johnlondon5516
2 weeks ago
You don’t have to agree with homosexuality, but being that cruel and callous is terrible optics. Most normal people in the developed world are repelled by cruelty.

@Costa_del_Artlepool
2 weeks ago
@johnlondon5516 Get over yourself, Princess. There are bigger problems afoot.
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@johnlondon5516
2 weeks ago
@Costa_del_Artlepool I forgot we only have the capacity to deal with one problem at a time.
Room temperature IQ.
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@Costa_del_Artlepool
2 weeks ago
@johnlondon5516 The big problem tends to throw your lot off roofs.
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@EnglishFemale
13 days ago
​@johnlondon5516 be careful you don’t snap your string of pearls
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@stevestone4346
2 weeks ago
Great guest. Mark is the real deal as far as I’m concerned. I hardly ever find anything I can disagree with him on.
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@Occident.
2 weeks ago (edited)
He’s consistent. I shared a stage with him in Darlington back in 2002. He was a young dude, but delivered a great speech. His position has not shifted. He has stuck to his views. Good on him.
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@tonyaughney8945
12 days ago
Great interview. Mark is a top man.
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@ScepticalWoman
2 weeks ago
Rupert Lowe is the acceptable face of the views
expressed here. This gentleman was ahead of his time. That time has now come.
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@shanetomlinson4604
5 days ago
Powell wasn’t listened to, Griffin wasn’t listened to, Lowe is our last chance
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@historyandculture6369
3 days ago
Mark hit the nail on the head though and pointed out that anyone ‘on the right’ espousing Zionist views
, is usually a snake in the grass. I’ve yet to see what Lowe is all about when it comes to Israel.
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@ThisIsJamesL
2 weeks ago
Proud to have Mark as my friend
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@edmundblackaddercoc8522
2 weeks ago
When you know you know.
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@mesolithicman164
2 weeks ago
I know.
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@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
Great to see Mark getting his say ,talks total sense
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@DrChunkyBiscuit
2 weeks ago
Top man is Mark!
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@shaunhalliwell7544
2 weeks ago
Been consistent in his views.
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@jackdoe4632
13 days ago
@shaunhalliwell7544 Been consistent in his grifting too. Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn’t attend due to sickness but he wouldn’t return them their money.

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@geraldfisher5683
2 weeks ago
Very good interview. Mark talks a lot of sense. We urgently need a policy of Remigration. It is the only way to get our country back.
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@carpetsonline3718
2 weeks ago
” is this good for Jews” as they break out in a cold sweat….
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@DrChunkyBiscuit
2 weeks ago
First time Mark has been interviewed by Orson Welles.
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Compliment of the day! Makes a change not being called Temu Carl Benjamin
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@arslongavitabrevis5136
5 hours ago
@DMLaments face-green-smilingface-green-smilingface-green-smiling

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@WolvesRugeley
5 days ago
Very interesting interview
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@fishtherapy100
13 days ago
THIS IS COMMON SENSE. COMMON SENSE HAS BEEN CRIMINALISED. THIS WAS A BOG STANDARD VIEW IN THE 1970’S. I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY STANCE AT ALL.
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@AJC298
2 weeks ago
Really good interview that. I have a lot of time for Mark and have read his book.
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thank you
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
They want to bring back Babylon and rule over it
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
Dude was born when I graduated highschool. I’ve watched all of this happen since the 80s. Every year it’s worse and worse
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@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj
9 days ago
Mark makes a lot of sense & only describes the way this Country was during my childhood growing up in the fifties & the sixties.Our leaders have completely betrayed us.
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@homebusiness8166
2 weeks ago
Great Video Paul with the truth.
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@evolassunglasses4673
2 weeks ago
Everything the BNP predicted, particularly Jonathan Bowden is coming true.
They had a much better understanding of the long-term trajectory of Liberal Capitalism / The Global American Empire/ Z0G than the centre Right.
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@Occident.
2 weeks ago
Met that great man twice in the N/E. Blucher Village in 2006, and Jarrow in 2008. Brillient Orator Smashing fellow.
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@anthonygreen7063
13 days ago
​@Occident.A brilliant orator.
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@mesolithicman164
2 weeks ago
In politics timing is everything.
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@Dim3nsion_78
2 weeks ago
Labour have repeatedly stated it has been left with a £22bn blackhole in its finances. Yet continues to spend billions on hotels and welfare for migrants. The government could easily cut its expenditure and reduce the debt – but it hasnt. This isnt incompetence, they want the migrants here.
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@ColtPython22
12 days ago
It’s refreshing to see an interviewer who lets their guest speak without interrupting.
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@DMLaments
12 days ago
Thank you kindly
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@disillusioneddisappointed
2 weeks ago
Schools LIE . Schools LIE to children. Schools NO LONGER teach the Truth and Facts.
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@PaulD330
2 weeks ago
He’s just a nationalist, eth nat is a made up term.
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@Occident.
2 weeks ago
To be a Nationalist, was to be an Ethno Nationalist. It literally went without saying. However since the controlled opposition Tommy Robinson and others appeared, with their brand if multi-racial (fake) Nationalism, the term “Civic” was coined to describe that movement. Hence we have the two. “Ethno” and “Civic”. Only the former is real Nationalism. The latter is a half measure, a cowardly cop out doomed to failure.
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@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
It’s been coined due to the likes of Tommy or Farage civ nat aka fake nationalists so it helps to distinguish who’s on the side of the indigenous white population that being ethno nationalists
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@mesolithicman164
2 weeks ago
​ @PpHT9217
Dud you see Robinson and his “Not White” quote. I find that very troubling. And Spanish resident, Paul Thorpe, is exactly the same. All calling for Unity on their terms. Suspicious agenda.
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@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
​ @mesolithicman164 you only need to follow the money who his handlers are ,Steven is a puppet for Jewish Israel interests, he does not care one bit about the indigenous white populations in Europe becoming a minority
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@anthonygreen7063
13 days ago
Since Blair’s time, we’ve been sold the idea that to be British is to hold a passport and sign up (officially, at least) to ‘liberal’ values, not ethnicity. That’s why we need to disringuish between ‘Ethno’ and ‘Civic’ Nationalism. I say this as a man with a Chinese wife, and two mixed race sons. She is a British citizen, and a good one, but she wouldn’t dream of claiming to ethnically English or British.
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@mesolithicman164
2 weeks ago
No. 2 things.
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@bullseyecooper1739
2 weeks ago
Tolerance is Not an English or Christian value! There is no such thing as British values, that term was coined by Tony Blair!
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@RosemarieMaders
6 days ago
This person speaks the absolute truth
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@Ann-u5k5n
10 days ago
The English Constitution is the solution for us all
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@SerenaJB3
2 weeks ago
Mark is a great person and a true patriot.
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@jackdoe4632
13 days ago
And a grifter. Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn’t attend due to sickness but he wouldn’t return them their money.

@PpHT9217
11 days ago
​ @jackdoe4632 he takes those super chats to live , like to see how you get on being completely de banked
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@PeterFrance707
2 weeks ago
We’d prefer not to be rubbed out thank you very much
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@filled_soda
8 days ago
This comment section fills me with hope.
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@EnglishFemale
2 weeks ago
If they silence you it’s because you speak truth .
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@lowbrow
2 weeks ago
Agree with every single word
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@Stanley_1215
7 days ago
And thats why they’ve silenced him and won’t debate him. He eloquently speaks researchable facts!
I’m ashamed of not caring about politics until the referendum. I’m ashamed i fell for tommy 10 sheckles. I’m ashamed i fell for the smear campains against this man.
I’m glad I have the humility to admit it.
A lot of gen Xers like myself were too busy living hedonistic lifestyles to see beyond the bottom of a bear glass.
Thanks for having the courage that other podcastsers lack. I love anyone who can laugh at themselves Orson Wells I saw your reply
Subbed
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@DMLaments
7 days ago
Welcome to Laments
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@djsioux2265
2 weeks ago
This sounds like what Rupert Lowe has planned.
Restore Britain
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@ooWodensEyeoo
7 days ago
Yes but this is proper..
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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
And he’s not far right. He’s just right.
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@julianmorris9951
12 days ago
Hypothetically, if you’re a black man in the absolute middle of nowhere on your last legs and suddenly see three groups of say 50 men, one group is white the other Pakistani and the third group is black, who do you walk towards?????, you would 100% walk towards your own ethnicity and there’s nothing wrong with that
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
Look at what their talmude says and kaballah
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@maxhession9797
5 days ago
Fucking incredible to see Mark Collet! Love Mark! Saw the interview with russel brand from 2002 and was woken the fuck up!
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@andreroswell1561
2 weeks ago
Great interview.
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thank you, much appreciated
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@naedprary1721
13 days ago
there are also those with citizenship that came here illegally and are now legal; these must go as well
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@bullseyecooper1739
2 weeks ago
If you were born in the 70’s you would have a very different opinion as you would have seen a total collapse of English society!!!
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@ShamanKyrick
12 days ago
I was born in ’90 and can say the exact same
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@ClintBeastBud
12 days ago
The guy speaks complete sense and truth fair play to him.
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@djsioux2265
2 weeks ago
Just found your channel, it poped up in my feed.
The youtube algorithms are working well atm, finding lots of decent channels talking sense.
Great interview
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thank you kindly, more interviews due to be released
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@djsioux2265
2 weeks ago
​ @DMLaments I have notifications set for your channel so look forward to more discussions.
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
​ @djsioux2265 thank you. There’s a lot more coming, various topics and people
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@belindakennedy5828
2 weeks ago
The natives can’t afford having large families also no housing to even think about having large families,somehow our replacements seem to have no problem in the UK doing those things with extra help from governments past and present.
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@Occident.
2 weeks ago
All part of the deliberate replacement policy. One bunch behind it.
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@DC3RejuvationGB
2 weeks ago
​@Occident.We node
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@filled_soda
8 days ago (edited)
I literally just finished Dutton’s review of Naziboy. This popped up afterwards.
Mark’s a legend.
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@jagi1484
13 days ago
I don’t understand the world has gone mad. All this is two men having a sensible conversation.
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@BasedSaxon
12 days ago
Always liked Mark
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@nadimovitch9237
5 days ago
Let’s see if Rupert kisses the wall.
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@WingBroJoseph
2 weeks ago
EthNats for the win!
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@myt110
2 weeks ago
Aim high, vote Lowe
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@NotOnMyWatch-i8n
13 days ago
Does this mean I can’t move to Florida and get given a free house and some cash? Damn! I was relying on that.
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@johngammon963
2 weeks ago
This is true
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@waxingmiracle
2 weeks ago
Good chat and discussion thanks.
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@homebusiness8166
2 weeks ago
Paul, we live and learn, we hope.
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
That’s the problem. Everyone has turned a blind eye
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@endrominastercermilenio642
2 weeks ago (edited)
We are a huge problem in our democracy when people like the guest today, Mark Collet, are cancelled.
I can’t argue against anything that he said. And I am an immigrant that he would like to repatriate!
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
He was cancelled a while ago, as well as debanked and is barred from majority of Europe
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@lisalisalake
2 weeks ago
don’t ignore the absolutely connected and dangerous biblical/religious aspect to all of this…the imposition of noahide law in every nation… jewish sharia if you will…
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@gabemore1766
7 days ago
It’s a genocide
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@stuka80
2 weeks ago
man i remember mark colet from years ago. dude disappeared for yearse. im happy to see him again.
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@stephenparker5241
2 weeks ago
Nationalist are ethnats, but they try to portray them as white supremacists which as far as I can see this isn’t the case
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@smithjones9130
13 days ago (edited)
It must be frustrating for Mark. 20 plus years he’s been banging this drum & now the overton window has shifted far enough to make his talking points mostly acceptable, he can’t because he’s banned from everywhere.
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@kirstypalmer33
12 days ago
MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME
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@sparticale1954
5 days ago
36%, 25%, 16%. Better to be an Ethno-Natinolist than the victim of Ethno-Genocide.
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@cimmerian_savage9736
5 days ago
If caring about the survival of your own race is tribalism, then tribalism is simply the natural, default behavior of any organism that exists in populations rather than as isolated atoms.
A Nation body of people having a common descent, history, culture, or language but without a separate or politically independent territory.
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@bigjawontour9679
2 weeks ago
Mark came out of the English working class and knows his stuff. One of the only men in the UK who has ALWAYS stuck to his principles.
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@Multiverse82
8 days ago (edited)
Money doesn’t buy you class

@Heimbach1966
13 days ago
He’s not working class. That’s why he’s never had any real traction
PA is just middle class people.
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@bigjawontour9679
8 days ago
​ @Heimbach1966 after a quick search on wikipedia, I stand corrected. From a middle class town and privately educated. PA do know what is going on rather than being paid up zio shills imo.
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
@Heimbach1966 Who cares what class he is – Tommy Robinson claims he is “working class,” yet is stinking rich by most standards, shrills for Israel and grifts money of his gullible supporters.
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@robhunt-watts8908
5 days ago
I liked & subscribed because I too am an English ethnonationalist.
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@robertlestylo6085
2 weeks ago
Excellent interview. My contribution: the Paradox of Tolerance (Karl Popper – Austrian philosoper). To those unfamiliar: Look it up.
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@teaattiffanys
2 days ago
Absolutely and we have to be proud of who we are . And thats not another state of Islam we will be another Iran unless we vote Restore Britain. No other party will put the indigenous first
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@Martine-c3t
2 weeks ago (edited)
So me being a kind English white lady gets called more names as an adult then I did as a child but maybe that’s because as a child everyone looked like me I always wondered why god put us in our own countries?? Could it be because we don’t really get on with each other or does saying that make me a racist?new subscriber
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@djsioux2265
2 weeks ago
Spot on I hear you as a boomer, we didnt have these issues back in the days!
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@wobwub8188
12 days ago
Take the first two minutes, how do you disagree or argue with that?! I can’t.
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@Livinginlanguage
5 days ago
As Mark says – it is PATriotic Alternative. PATriotic (British English) – PATEriotic (American English). When did so many of us come to speak American and why? (Fine, of course, for the Americans.)
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@CaroleHoward-g6p
13 days ago
Thanks for the video very informative
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@Pumpemup
2 weeks ago
I agree with everything this man said
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@TheArtofTheBrave
2 weeks ago
Mark talks a lot of sense, especially his closing remarks. the stumbling block is that certain people would find it impossible to parasitize the populations of western ethno-states, and they will, and do do all they can to prevent that……..
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@eyemallears2647
13 days ago
This is crazy. How am I struggling to find fault in any of his points???
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@piercerockwell2588
12 days ago
Why are you trying to go against an Englishman that wants England to be White? What’s wrong with you
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@BlueRadleys
6 days ago
Because it’s impossible to find fault with the truth.
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@benjaminchadwick3749
6 days ago
There are no faults!!! Hes spot on with all of it bravo
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@venx4733
2 days ago
Simon Tomlin is not a Walter Mitty , he is the real deal ….he’s always been a Nationalist….
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@winstonsmithstaxi
2 weeks ago (edited)
I used to disagree with PA on repatriation and ethic identity stopping non Brits from standing for public office. I have now changed my mind. I will add that while we should try to make change politically, we need to be realistic and accept that a conflict is inevitable
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@ryan-audax
13 days ago
You think a civil conflict in the UK is inevitable?

@BlueRadleys
6 days ago
Took your time getting there
Followed you for years buddy, hope the family are well.

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@stephenwellstriggers
2 days ago
Mark is a legend
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@YJB8CCFC
6 days ago
All the hatred and divide is being caused by Western Governments and the Jewish state of Israel. The Jews and the west want total control of the Middle East for its oil rich reserves. It’s causing upheaval to the people there, causing waves of migration to the west. That’s the big issue. If we(The west) and Israel didn’t interfere in Middle East politics, they’d all still be there. And this has been going on since WW2
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
Yep everything and all our countries have been bought and paid for by them.
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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
Britsh society. Wtf is that. Currently its based on invasion. Who would want to uphold that.
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@disillusioneddisappointed
2 weeks ago
The thing that really gets my goat is the lack of any Christian traditions in schools. Lack of respect for Christians in schools. My son being told to hide his cross ,whilst a dominant religion is rammed down their throats constantly,even colouring in geometric patterns handed out to the children are labelled islamic patterns?!?!? well,to me they looked like stained glass window,Church patterns!
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@johnfused8281
13 days ago
We aren’t a Christian country. We are a pagan country. What does christianity have to do with Britain?
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@auntsally5683
9 days ago
@johnfused8281 a lot if you look into it, crusades, the national flag, christian names, the law………it is fused with pagan traditions as well.
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@naedprary1721
13 days ago
makes sense to be an ethnonat
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@keithswood6205
12 days ago
Good interview and not one unreasonable point. The host was good and I recommend he follows up on the points Mark made about some of the key actors behind every single subversive movement of the last century. Its worldview shaping stuff.
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@DMLaments
12 days ago
Its on my “to do” list
Thank you kindly for watching

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@AliceEngland-n8w
2 weeks ago
I absolutely agree with everything that dear English gentleman Mark Collett has said in this stream, thank you @DMLaments for interviewing him. I am highly educated and have done mass research and know what Mark is saying is true. God bless you and every native British.
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@DaveRhine-h4g
2 weeks ago
Wow! At about 37:31 the host declares that he doesn’t know about Israel getting away with the genocide of Gaza in sight of the whole world. At this point in time how could you not be aware of that?
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@Multiverse82
9 days ago
Genocide in Gaza??!!

@DMLaments
13 days ago
I dont follow Israeli news
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@historyandculture6369
3 days ago
@DMLaments Its world news my guy, it’s all interconnected. The way of Palestine will be the way of the world.

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@bullseyecooper1739
2 weeks ago
Surely he’s just a “Nationalist”?
This term “Ethno” is pure gaslighting and deflection!
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@danielarcher1459
2 weeks ago
Mark is brilliant, thank you.
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@jackdoe4632
13 days ago
Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn’t attend due to sickness but he wouldn’t return them their money. Brilliant at grifting.

@danielarcher1459
13 days ago
​ @jackdoe4632 I have been invited to those events too and before you make the payment it states very clearly ‘All sales are final and non-refundable’. Perhaps if you spent as much time advocating for our people as Mark does and less time gossiping you would command more respect, but you come across as petty and deconstructive to the cause.
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@arslongavitabrevis5136
6 hours ago (edited)
Excellent interview. Mark Collett is a true patriot. He put up with a lot of abuse and harassment, like Laura Towler and Sam Meliá, but carried on fighting. I wish him and PA all the best. Simon Tomlin is a despicable creature who has been abusing and slandering Mark, Laura Towler and many other honourable nationalists. According to him, he is the ONLY decent, true nationalist. He is either a psychopath or a troll working for the government.

@belindakennedy5828
2 weeks ago (edited)
Why would any country feed the ones who attack them,Egypt, Jordan also shared a border with Palestine,but they also closed their borders to Palestine.arabs are not native to those parts either.
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
I love this guy!!! This is what Jesus was preaching. Jesus Christ is King and I can’t wait till He is ruling the entire earth again. Come soon Lord
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@psychodrilla
23 hours ago
Ruperts plan will never happen – the half past twos have bought and paid for all this. Ask Barbara Lerner Spectre!
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@trance.vault.official
5 days ago
Simon tomlin is a true nationalist look him up
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@paulmorrisrotga77
11 days ago
Great video, subscribed and here is a comment.
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@DMLaments
11 days ago
Thank you kindly
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@Alma-q6m
13 days ago
It is immigration policies. It is immigration policies. Restrict and limit the state. Embrace the free market system. The ingenuity of the Brits is amazing. Get back to the community. Civil disobedience, where you refuse to pay taxes that are working against you.
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@TheGreatWhiteLight
2 weeks ago
So the right has been completely gobbled up by Tories
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@mesolithicman164
2 weeks ago (edited)
That was the Tory job, keep the Right out of power. So no room for people like Enoch. Now Farage is tge last attempt to corale the RW vote, but he’s failing. Reform is dropping like a stone.
And Restore is on the way up.
So it needs to keep fools like Ben Habib and Robinson out of the party.
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@Rusty-Hinge
13 days ago
Came for the Collett interview, left because of the advert volume.
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@Jimmy-i9g2s
2 weeks ago
If not for Isreal, the world’s opinion of Hitler and co would be very different.
There are many reports of people welcoming the Germans into their countries. The victors of war write the history books.
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@Occident.
2 weeks ago
Sometimes it takes 100 years to really appreciate the work of a Painter.
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@Freyjawitch
2 weeks ago

@Occident.And sometimes it takes no time at all

@Freyjawitch
2 weeks ago
How did that work out for them?

@vincemarshall8550
2 weeks ago
​ @Freyjawitch well how’s it working out for us ?
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@domestinger8805
2 weeks ago
nationalist = ethnonationalist
you have fallen for the language trick
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
Brilliant guest – I agree with everything Mark says. However I have to say that I find it a very strange interview style from the host – he asks a question for a second time – eg “what would you do on you do on your first day as PM” when Mark has already answered that at length.
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@DS-it9ef
2 days ago
If we ban halal they will start stealing and slaughtering our farmers cattle and continue to kill our wildlife
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@DMLaments
1 day ago
So you’d let it continue?
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@DS-it9ef
10 hours ago
​ @DMLaments no, we need to be more serious with our tactics. They only respect strength. They think politeness and kindness is a weakness. That’s why they have been taking advantage of us for decades

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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
Power
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@JaneBarlow-z7y
2 weeks ago
Im not being snotty, but instead of guests why dont you Brits submit FOIA requests to all the city/ town councils in England, Wales, Scotland? Put the heat on them. Make them produce their records, finances, expenditures. And then do this for agencies, govt offices, etc. Talking does nothing. We do this here in America. Its YOUR country and money.
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@edmundblackaddercoc8522
2 weeks ago
Depends on what you request as to whether or not you’ll recieve the information. If you request information that is ‘sensitive’ they just send you a message saying ‘not in the public interest’ and that’s the end of it, we’re being blocked at every turn.
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@NoNeed2No
2 weeks ago
Lewis Brackpool has been really good on this, he’s a citizen journalist who makes frequent FOIA requests.
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@raymondwoods2304
12 days ago
Restore will not harm Reform as Reform is merging with the Uniparty (so leaving the Right/Centre for Restore). Reform is harming Reform because Reform is engineered to fail.

@INCOMING-UK
1 day ago (edited)
Israeli’s are leaving the promised land by boat, they are heading for European countries to claim asylum.
How many are Farage, lowe, Robinson and the flag shaggers willing to take into their homes. Are you going to give them mobile phones, cars and cash ?
Will Rupert and Nigel welcome their votes ?

@Michealst1
1 day ago (edited)
All seems simply basic stuff……Vote Restore….VVOVV Mark has it all vvorked out sounds real good to me.

@ThomasBoyd-r7l
2 weeks ago
Has Labour government England London tighten up asylum seekers yes it old Thatcher conservative governments immigration policy Thomas it Home office they forced into by England. .
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@juliemathews5115
8 days ago
It’s kaballah
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@dandoc5160
2 weeks ago
every 5 minutes there’s an advert ffs
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@benjaminchadwick3749
6 days ago
Brilliant great interview Mark speaks so much sense..If most the normies could watch this especially the Israel bit it would change so many minds…No wonder the Jews hate him
Great interviewer too letting him speak, asking great awkward questions no one else seems to ask..Great stuff….
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@DMLaments
6 days ago
Thank you kindly
More to come..

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@paulreader7353
9 days ago
You missed a group there
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@ThomasBoyd-r7l
2 weeks ago
You going to hustings Glasgow Anniesland yes April 14 6.30 to 8 o’clock . Brilliant content. Edinburgh parliament yes 34 politicians lose their seats jobs. Reform uk party that gained politically. Third place in Scotland politically.

@parade1996
6 days ago
Mark collett the state asset.
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@DMLaments
6 days ago
Evidence?

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@Jimmy-i9g2s
2 weeks ago
If I click the subscribe button it will unsubscribe me!
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Thats odd

@KingHumphrey
2 weeks ago
@DMLaments He’s saying he’s already a subscriber. Please turn your brain on.
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@PompeyfcPUP1898
13 days ago
Simon Tomlin doesn’t hate everyone he likes Dean Neil, the traditionalbricklayer. Mark also has a dislike for nick Griffin. Not taking sides, I like both of them.
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@dd7521
13 days ago
He seems to hate most though.
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
Tomlin only likes Dean Neil – so that’s just ONE person – everyone else he hates – Laws, Collett , Lowe etc etc. He has even started having a go at young Charlie Downes and Connor Tomlinson who is not even a spokesman for Restore. When I first came across Tomlin on YT he seemed good but his constant punching right is getting so obsessive and repetitive that I can no longer watch him. Tomlin clearly imagines that he should be the great leader of the right – maybe the fact that he can’t get on with anyone would have something to do with it! Mark by contrast has forged alliances with a number of people on the Right and he is not the only one to be critical of Griffin’s leadership style so he is not alone in that.
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@Purp00000
12 days ago

@MayeDaye01 He offers a paid subscription to “remigration action” which entails people handing out leaflets on remigration…truly a mastermind of politics. Let’s not forget his little plot to takeover the BNP by flooding it with members which went NOWHERE, and was doomed to fail.
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@PompeyfcPUP1898
11 days ago
​@MayeDaye01to be fair Connor went to israel, I wonder if he kissed the wall? Lowe has also said in a x post a year or so ago that we must defend israel. Im wary of a lot of these people.
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@Purp00000
12 days ago (edited)
I went off him a while back and I was there since probably his first video, every accusation he dishes out is more like an admission…not to mention his fake “hunted by the police stories” which just exist to make him sound more edgy and interesting. Not to mention his “I have secret information that will come out soon” regarding Nick Tenconi which was just a free to view searchlight article on Nick’s sex life…Genuine, pure, grade A bullshitter. Oh yeah, I still have a screenshot of a comment he deleted where someone criticised his merch for being made in the third world.
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@gman0068
13 days ago
57:57 who was that

@John-d5y2d
6 days ago
99.9%

@parjau4554
6 days ago
Re: “Jews” wanting all the immigration. Admittedly, this is sort of true but the reality is these are just left wing, mostly atheist, liberals who happen to be born Jewish. Actual Jews do NOT want that!! For a very good reason.
The most important thing for real Jews is Israel. And right now, Israel generally has the support of powerful, armed Western Nations. But mass immigration to the West is mostly coming from Muslim countries which means that the demographics are changing such that in a few years, there will be many Muslims in society and in power. And this huge number of Muslims will influence these Western countries to do what? TO TURN AGAINST ISRAEL. And without Western support, Israel will be bombed out of existence! So, No. Real Jews do NOT want mass immigration!
And BTW, Israel is not a Jewish ethno-state in the way you said. It is 20% Muslim. And these Arab Muslims are full Israeli Citizens.

@puddlestoo1
14 hours ago
I don’t get it. Why would Israel not want any western nation to be an ethno state? With many slowly becoming Islamic states where does that benefit Israel? I would say it does the opposite as their enemy (Islam) would now have acquired nuclear weapons! Makes no sense.

@jamestower4473
2 weeks ago
The opposite is happening
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Which part?
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@tancreddehauteville764
13 days ago
The only issue I have with Rupert Lowe is that he gives the impression of being a gin soaked golf club Tory. He needs a decent, ordinary guy, with a good brain, from a lower middle class or upper working class background to work alongside him and push some of the economic policies to the left, in order to attract white working class voters, especially women. We cannot win without women’ support.
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@Purp00000
12 days ago
millions of working class people voted for boris johnson over the socialist “down to earth” corbyn
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
Working class people don’t care about what class you are if they like your policies – they all flocked to Farage back in the day didn’t they! By all accounts Downes and Pitt are more economically to the left than Lowe as a lot of zoomers are anyway so that solves that one.
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@DebbiejBurgess
12 days ago
Lowe is a fraud

@Multiverse82
9 days ago
Yeah I don’t wanna spend the afternoon with him but I want him to restore Britain. Your point is insinuating people aren’t intelligent enough to vote for the policies he’s offering.

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@matthewbazeley2984
4 days ago (edited)
Britain had no division before mass immigration?? Don’t make laugh. The class system is incredibly prejudiced and it’s the elite that gave us mass immigration.
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@Natalya.57.Volkova
2 days ago
And that is how you dilute relevant discussions allowing enemies to change the subject and win, congratulations
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@matthewbazeley2984
2 days ago
And that is how you throw toys out of the pram. Maybe take a nap?
If facts and accuracy allow your enemies to win then you are not on the side of truth

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@DuruttiVisca
2 weeks ago
Rupert Lowe is a Zionist so not a nationalist
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@vincemarshall8550
2 weeks ago
I haven’t heard him say that but I did ask him if there was any Zionist financial backing of restore and got no answer
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@Lothnar5070
6 days ago
Making up crap without evidence is weak. Maybe you can also accuse Santa claus with the same bullshit?
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@ianoliver3779
10 hours ago
too many adverts on this channel.

@DJAA21M
2 weeks ago
What about an english man with an asian wife?

@Robin-Chats
2 weeks ago
RUPERT LOWES Restore Britain will make it easier for foreign spouses to come here.. it’s a policy he’s talked about.
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@DJAA21M
2 weeks ago
​ @Robin-Chats Is it?

@DC3RejuvationGB
2 weeks ago
​@DJAA21M it’s always about me me it’s , our island and our Eth are being at risk of gn cdcd and you say what about my Asian wiffe
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@DJAA21M
2 weeks ago
​ @DC3RejuvationGB Yea you got a problem with that, I have a right to know?

@DJAA21M
2 weeks ago
​ @DC3RejuvationGB I agree with Mark Collett and Rupert Lowe, I am against globalism, I am a nationalist in that I think all nations should be sovereign and embrace their culture, I wouldn’t go to my wife’s country expecting them to adapt to me or expect their way of life declining and their race being replaced, my wife doesn’t expect that here, she was happy to see the union jacks and george crosses being put up everywhere but you have to understand my family is my priority so I need to know about that before I support something, otherwise that would be irresponsible of me wouldn’t it, you clearly don’t give a sh!t about the many people in my situation so get off your high horse
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@tyronekelly-e6z
2 weeks ago
I think what Tracy means is there are no organized grape gangs from the Philippines or Thailand or Japan operating in the UK, but there is obviously a problem with organized grape g@ngs operating all around the UK from other Asian “communities” that are so protected by the state we cannot even mention the ethnicity of said groups but here is a clue it starts with Pak and ends with stani
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@DJAA21M
2 weeks ago
​ @tyronekelly-e6z I agree with that but I want to know is my family safe in Mark Collett’s or Rupert Lowe’s vision of Britain?
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@tyronekelly-e6z
2 weeks ago
That’s what divorce courts are for
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@francesaquatech3696
2 weeks ago
​ @tyronekelly-e6z
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@Purp00000
12 days ago
All you need to know about Collet is that he recommended Mein Kampf as a must book to read in an interview.
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@Lion-Roar1
12 days ago
My struggle in German. Your point is?
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@Purp00000
12 days ago

@Lion-Roar1 I don’t really care if you think you have any relation to Germany, I don’t have a particular point here to make..I simply wish to inform people.

@Lion-Roar1
12 days ago
​@Purp00000
Your totally irrelevant in my world also.
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@Purp00000
12 days ago

@Lion-Roar1 The contents of Mein Kampf and the context of why Collet reccomended it is also irrelevant it seems.

@ooWodensEyeoo
7 days ago
​@Purp00000 Seems like you got ratiod on a centrist channel.. The people are starting to break their shakles.

@DMLaments
12 days ago (edited)
Would you have an opinion on The Communist Manifesto? Genuinely curious
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@Lion-Roar1
12 days ago
​ @DMLaments
Why should I?

@DMLaments
12 days ago
​@Lion-Roar1it shows the mindset of a Marxist

@Purp00000
12 days ago
@DMLaments The Communists are wrong because historical materialism outside of a few select and specific class analysis situations is utterly stupid and inapplicable. It assumes that if you restructure economic relations, human nature will obediently follow. I can’t really give you a whole analysis but that in particular stuck with me. Should you read it? Maybe, I read it to better understand Marxism which I am opposed to.
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@DMLaments
12 days ago (edited)
​@Purp00000I’ve read both books, just for the record.
I understand Hitlers book getting the flack it does but I dont think it should be banned, or not talked about etc
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@Purp00000
12 days ago
@DMLaments Me too I agree, books should not be banned. But it’s not like he recommended this book for the purpose of historical insight. He does it because he is a Neo-Nazi – and make of that what you will. I just wish he would stop the deception and just say what he is. That type of thing makes me dislike someone. Dishonesty in politics is never good.

@DMLaments
12 days ago
​@Purp00000when was politics last honest?
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@Row1and
9 days ago
mark the mi5 agent
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@DMLaments
9 days ago
Evidence?
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@MagicEZvil
2 weeks ago
He has not called out Nigel Farage for the Grifter he is. Not to be trusted. HIs words do not match the reality of the Reform Policy – ‘Say what is popular to get into power’.
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Somehow, I dont think Mark is part of Reform UK..
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@anniestephenson6296
9 days ago
Oh , please return the wealth that’s been stolen for the last 400yrs .

@VincentComet-l8e
2 weeks ago
Surely, rather than aiming at non-British people, shouldn’t the criteria be whether they have skills we need, will work productively, and also have a Western mindset and want to integrate into our way of life?
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@dd7521
13 days ago
5% would cover that.
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
The bottom line is we need to be at least 95% in order to maintain ourselves as a majority. The emphasis will be on training our own. If we do need some foreigners with very high skills in the interim then they will be included in the 5%. The “integration” fairy tale clearly hasn’t worked and people need to be weaned off that story.
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@VincentComet-l8e
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@MayeDaye01
Yes, I certainly agree that we have to do whatever is needed, in order to maintain ourselves as the clear majority demographic…

@julieobrien8252
2 days ago
What about teaching the needed skills within our education system by making said system work in our favour rather than political indoctrination tripe? Then in a fairly short time the skills needed would be more home grown. Is that not reasonable?
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@VincentComet-l8e
2 days ago
@julieobrien8252
Of course, home grown talent is far preferable.
But our ‘education’ system is far from perfect and/or functional.
And firmly captured by the Left.

@julieobrien8252
2 days ago
​ @VincentComet-l8e let’s hope the education system is reclaimed to fulfill its proper purpose for the long term prosperity of England.

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@g.a.m.b.i
7 days ago
Marks not english, the plum
is Italian buahahahaha
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@JohnCollins1981
2 weeks ago
Maybe there is a compromise on this?

@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
There is no middle ground,we either get the demographic replacement to stop or we die out that’s your choice
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@Mazen7600
12 days ago
Mark, you have all my respect and admiration!! You always say the things that I think about
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@jackdoe4632
2 weeks ago (edited)
Simon Tomlin certainly has the measure of Mark Collett when it comes to grifting. I know people who gave Collett money for one of his events, then couldn’t attend due to sickness but he wouldn’t return them their money.
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago (edited)
Tomlin is always reciting fairy stories about everyone – so I wouldn’t believe what he says.
As for the donation you mentioned – the events do not have entrance fees – so if someone donates to help set up and organise the event and then doesn’t attend it is not like they bought a ticket – ie the money has been donated for and spent setting up the event so why should it be refunded? Tommy Robinson for example asks for donations to help with setting up his rallies – I doubt if anyone would get the donation back if they asked as the donation is to help with setting it up not attending.
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@jackdoe4632
12 days ago

@MayeDaye01 Except that at the time it was not conducted in this manner.

@MayeDaye01
11 days ago
@jackdoe4632 You are being very vague -there are really only two types of events in politics – as I said marches and rallies which don’t have entrance fees or tickets anyway so as I said if people donate to help with setting it up they can’t expect to get a refund just because they don’t attend and if it was actually something in the style of a party conference then tickets like that are never refundable – if you can’t attend a Tory conference or Reform conference or whatever you would not be refunded.

@jackdoe4632
11 days ago

@MayeDaye01
Mark Collet is on record as saying his is an entirely different genre of politics to mainstream parties.
However, according to what you are saying, there is common ground between him and them when it comes to money eh?
Take note I use the word money and not “donations” because there is a wide gulf, fixed, between the two.
He has cheated far too many fellow nationalists. Far too many times he has treated them with contempt where money is concerned as well as backstabbing one who passed away but he’s not alone in that.
At least now, it’s out in the open. Exactly where he doesn’t want it to be.

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@franitfcful
2 days ago (edited)
There’s also Palestinians living in Israel approx 2.1 million research it ! As for knocking Tommy Robinson when you can muster 2 million people behind you then come back to us …when you spend most of your life including solitary confinement in prison for speaking up then best you stop the hate towards him .I hope this man can walk down the street safely without fear of being killed like Tommy faces every day of his life

@Veyron1967
9 days ago
Was with this guy until he said Israel was an ethno-state – it has two million Arab Palestinians living and working there. Or that it never gets sanctioned – it is the most sanctioned nation on the face of the earth – mostly by the 56 Muslim countries in the UN known as the OIC.
Advice: Israel has nothing to do with our governments policies. Once you invoke Israel or joos more moderate Brits will tune out.
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@DMLaments
9 days ago
So people will tune out because they hear someones ideas they disagree with and or dislike?
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@Veyron1967
8 days ago
@DMLaments it’s not hard mate, he’s advocating for a more indigenous England, so why bring Israel into it at all? He is diluting the message and giving the ‘refugees welcome’ brigade an opportunity to attack something irrelevant to the argument.
Mass immigration in the UK is the problem, not Israel. People can see what is happening to our high streets so keep the message simple.
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@DMFS7
12 days ago
Agree with most of what Mark says but he talks absolute bollocks about Tommy Robinson being paid millions of pounds by Israel! Too bad he wasn’t asked for evidence of that claim just to see the arm waving (he doesn’t have any).
Also, he is being very disingenuous when he whinges about being cancelled and debanked without mentioning the “Young, Nazi, and Proud”.documentary in which he “starred”: it is the main reason that he is considered by many to be beyond the pale. It’s a shame because it was decades ago and we all change a lot in 20 years, but there it is and let’s not pretend it isn’t still tainting him.
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@Purp00000
12 days ago
he’s a loud mouthed fool

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@blueberrycheesecakesupremo
2 weeks ago
I wish Mark would just go away. He stinks so bad. I agree with most of what he says but he is repellent to most human beings. Please don’t support Restore because you will put people off voting for them. This is our last chance man. Please stop talking.
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@dd7521
13 days ago
Why does he ”stink so bad” especially when you say you agree with most he said?
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@blueberrycheesecakesupremo
13 days ago
@dd7521 I’ve been watching Mark since he was leader of the young BNP and he has been caught several times genuinely supporting an Austrian painter. People are desperately trying to paint Restore with the same brush and we don’t need to give them any ammo. If we want to get any real power we need to get the support of the general public and the truth is that Mark is to toxic for most people. He needs to step aside. If we don’t get this right this time we are finished. I want my country back and I don’t want someone like Mark messing it up.
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@dd7521
13 days ago
​ @blueberrycheesecakesupremo fair enough, thanks for your reply.
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
@blueberrycheesecakesupremo He is only “toxic” because the liberal media want to continue the narrative – haven’t you learned that by now? You say you agree with most of what he says but then talk about the “general public” as though you are not part of the general public yourself! The “general public” are waking up and going further to the patriotic right
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@Purp00000
12 days ago

@MayeDaye01 The liberal media did not force Collet to send death threats to Nick Griffin…

@JohnnyRollocks-v1z
13 days ago
We tried all that with the BNP I personally joined in 1989 been there and done it all still do a few protest now problem with the British people they still listen to scumbag politicians lying main stream media just look at fake farage and his circus
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@blueberrycheesecakesupremo
13 days ago
@JohnnyRollocks-v1z Yeah I know, Farage is a joke
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@jamesquinn9971
12 days ago
Hes an absalute bell end

@alpine7891
12 days ago
Well you’d better get used to it lad cos the people are finally waking up.
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@jamesquinn9971
12 days ago
​ @alpine7891 are you insecure?

@alpine7891
12 days ago
​ @jamesquinn9971 I can’t wait! Honestly, it’s gonna happen, we are going to win and get our country back! Woooohooo
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@jamesquinn9971
12 days ago
​ @alpine7891 youl just be forgoten like nich griffen was

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@JohnWayne-d6y
13 days ago
The problem in the USA is birth right anchor babies… once they have that birth certificate they are legally American Citizens regardless of where or who they are… what a mess the Democrats have made
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@PeterFrance707
2 weeks ago
Elon, are you listening?
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@IrishScouse10
6 days ago
good man Mark great interview
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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
Why’s the doom goblin saying it can’t be done, he’s sold his soul.
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@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
To the juice
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@SEKreiver
3 days ago
Collett has been fighting the good fight. Great guest!
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@MrPopeye007
8 days ago
Mark the brave
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@Pacex76
2 weeks ago
If i said what i think should be done id be arrested
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@ArthurShilling-f8c
10 hours ago
Nothing about this should even be considered as unreasonable. In fact, this MUST happen and sooner rather than later. If not, the consequences will be dire.

@VikingSimonStabilis
1 day ago
Ethnonationalist, what does that mean?

@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
What about the illegals that arrived and where given leave to remain by the home office.
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@BasilGanglia-b7g
13 days ago
I thought he was a young Ronnie Browne from The Corries. LOL!
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@DMLaments
13 days ago
Kenny Rogers
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@lynnescott6842
2 weeks ago
I’m angloist
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@niallmurray8654
13 days ago
Well I’m Irish descent born and bred in England and Angloist too
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@jamesquinn9971
12 days ago
To judge other people on the colour of their skin is pathetic
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@Multiverse82
9 days ago
No one is doing that character and culture. Skin colour doesn’t come into it.
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@jamesquinn9971
9 days ago
​ @Multiverse82 to judge people because they have a different back ground is pathetic

@jamesquinn9971
9 days ago
Britain has always had different peoples coming and going the last 2000 yrs has seen all kinds of people , read some history books pal

@Multiverse82
8 days ago (edited)
@jamesquinn9971 but to judge people that inflict harm on others is valid. So your argument is pointless. Your saying we should accept harm and abuse just because if we don’t it’s prejudice. You need your head checked. Do by your standards if it’s someone’s culture to rape children that can’t be judged? If someone’s character is evil that can’t be judged? Insanity!
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@Multiverse82
8 days ago
@jamesquinn9971 I’m not your pal by any means
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@jamesquinn9971
8 days ago
​ @Multiverse82 are you insecure?

@jamesquinn9971
8 days ago
Did your mummy not love you argh poor boy

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@damthebloodandlandthirsty
8 days ago
small minded little englander – is he unaware of the brits that emigrated to ‘the new world’ – simply recall anyone with british heritage back = instant 99.9% majority

@WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe
2 weeks ago
Mark Collette is rumoured to be a honeytrap operator to get real NationaIists Iocked up . .
I am of the uItra far right spectrum so to speak.. but I would not trust Mark at all, because he isn’t careful enough.
Please beware of this feIIa because many people say he is dangerous !
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@AliceEngland-n8w
2 weeks ago
There are many of us that actually know Mark, and those rumours are designed to stop anyone listening to him!
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@apollo53122
2 weeks ago
What people need to be mindful of are people like this who go around spreading malicious rumours about others.
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@tyronekelly-e6z
2 weeks ago
Simon Tomlin
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@MayeDaye01
12 days ago
@tyronekelly-e6z aka Walter Mitty!
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@aconcernedcitizen6056
2 weeks ago
Why are you listening to rumors Mr “ultra far right”
Have you met Mark?
Have you ever even attempted to join a real world movement?
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@DMLaments
2 weeks ago
Who says that he is dangerous?
Who says he is a “honeytrap”?
Im genuinely curious, I haven’t read that anywhere
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@stevestone4346
2 weeks ago
@DMLaments Simon Tomlin. Never shuts up about him.
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@alpine7891
2 weeks ago
How is he getting people locked up? He doesn’t advocate for those things that Simon has led you to believe.
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@KingHumphrey
2 weeks ago
@alpine7891 Tomlin has said, many many times, that people close to Collett keep getting sent down. Sadly, that is true. There’s Sam Melia, the Longshanks fella and another close friend of Mark’s whose name escapes me at the minute. Now I’d argue that these people have done what they did independent of Mark and made their own choices, but it’s still true that people close to Mark have been sent to prison while him and Nick Griffin both got off and still find themselves free of police intervention. I think that’s because Mark doesn’t break the law.
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@alpine7891
2 weeks ago
​ @KingHumphrey I mean, Tommy Robinson has been sent down so should we now believe he is to be trusted and telling the truth
It’s more likely Mark has been careful, but who knows in actual fact. But he seems to be doing a great job in waking people up to real Nationalism. He doesn’t slander people and certainly doesn’t punch right and I’ve never heard him advocate or simp towards NS
And he also tells people to avoid NA.
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@alpine7891
2 weeks ago
​ @WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe Yeah it was a very long time ago mate.. He was young and immature and admits he’s embarrassed by it. We really should get past that, we’ve all made mistakes. But he’s doing more to waking people up to real Nationalism.. Now if only he still had his YouTube channel with 100k followers…Oh yeah Simons still got his YT and x accounts hasn’t he.. How strange, makes you wonder
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@alpine7891
2 weeks ago
​ @WatchEuropaTheLastBattIe Exactly mate

@PpHT9217
2 weeks ago
​ @KingHumphrey they were locked up prior to being involved with Patriotic Alternative, need to get your facts right
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@ThomasSukhoi
2 weeks ago
Everyone is a fed.
Don’t trust anyone.
It’s hopeless.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody and welcome to tonight’s stream. We’re live on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. And I’ve got a wonderful panel for you here tonight to discuss the big issue of, well, the last week or so, and it’s obviously Trump’s war for Israel or Trump’s war on Iran for Israel, to be more precise.

 

Now, the guys I’ve got with me I’ll be introducing shortly. It’s of course Natty and Yuro from the Nationalist A-Team. We’re going to cover some of the things we covered last Sunday quickly. And then we’re going to go deeper into things. Everyone’s going to get roughly an equal time to talk. I’m not going to be putting people on an egg timer, but we’ve probably got nine or ten topics and if everyone puts sort of three, four minutes into each topic, it’ll be about a 90 minute presentation. So stick around. It’s going to be pretty entertaining or at least pretty enlightening.

 

You might have noticed I’m not on camera tonight. My apologies for that it’s not because I’m being rude. Slightly under the weather today, actually. I don’t know whether I sound it and if I do, my apologies. But I am doing my best to essentially be as chirpy as humanly possible, all things considered.

 

Now, if you like this stream, please share it. If you really like this dream, please consider making a donation. Please consider contributing to my work. You can do so via Entropy and also directly through Rumble. Anything that is sent tonight, any Superchat, any donation that has a message attached, the message will be read out live on tonight’s stream.

 

So we will talk about that. So if you’ve got a different point of view, if you’ve got something you want to raise, if you think we’ve missed something, or if you just say:

 

“Look, Mark, I really appreciate the fact that you’ve been consistent for the last, 26 years and I want to keep you fighting even though you’re banned from everywhere.”

 

I appreciate that as well.

 

So thank you in advance for everyone who Superchats. You can also donate by crypto all the crypto links in the description below.

 

And finally you can write to me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. Although I didn’t answer emails this morning, again under the weather. So sorry guys, back to things on Monday. Unless I’ve got some kind of horrible illness that drags on past then and sort of takes me out, which I’m sure I haven’t. That’s quite a morbid thought. Anyway! We are going to get into it now, but before we do that, let’s go around the group and we’ll introduce everyone.

 

Now, the first is of course Natty. You know him from the Nationalist A-Team and also from numerous other streams that he’s done with me in the past. Natty’s a guy that’s been around since the beginning of PA. He’s been to all the meetings, at conferences, camps, etc, and he’s always someone that everyone likes hearing from.

 

In fact, I always say that if I had a wingman on PWR, it would be this guy here. Natty, how are you doing, my friend? I hope you are well.

 

Natty: Yeah, I’m good. I’m enjoying watching Tel Aviv burn. I’m sure we’re gonna talk about the ins and outs of what that means, but yeah, I’m good apart from that it’s been a bit of a crazy week trying to keep up with everything and I think my wife has suffered constantly looking across at me and seeing my face buried in my phone because I’m trying to, I’m monitoring the situation. But yeah, it’s very interesting times.

 

Mark Collett: Do you ever get it where you’re out on the sort of a supposed family event and the wife’s like:

 

“Why aren’t you paying any attention? All you’re doing is sitting on the phone. What can be so important that you need to be on your phone at this family event?”

 

And you’re like:

 

“Look, you know, Israel is on fire. Tel Aviv is being hit with hypersonic missiles. Chill out!”

 

Natty: It’s like:

 

“Honey, there’s cluster munitions going off above a suburb in Tel Aviv. This is really important. [chuckling] I’m watching it right now! It’s amazing!”

 

Mark Collett: Well, yeah, [chuckling] that’s kind of that’s kind of the str. I’d say that that’s the struggle that we have.!

 

Anyway, we’ve also got Yuro with us tonight. He’s obviously famous because Yuro used to do The Absolute State of Britain podcast.

 

And again, he’s a very able wing man. He has been on the National A-Team standing in for Sam. He always has good takes, he’s a funny guy and sometimes I bully him a bit, which is a little unfair, but that’s because I love him and see him as like my little brother, My little brother who needs the odd sort of monkey scrub and jab in the ribs, but he’s like my little brother, so I still love him.

 

Anyway, Yuro, how are you doing, my friend?

 

Yuro: I’m good. I’ve also been keenly paying attention watching Middle East Spectator and other such channels on Telegram. You know, it’s, I think there’s a lot more censorship obviously during the 12 Day War that was going on between Iran and Israel before. It was very much like:

 

“Well, what can we believe? How much are they not showing you?”

 

And it’s just that more. So we see all of Iran’s failures and then some things that’s like disinfo and we see all of Israel’s successes and then some, and some of that’s disinfo. And it’s kind of hard to even know what’s real.

 

[04:47]

 

Natty: That’s a good point actually because just briefly, it does seem like the information blackout from Israel was way more intense during the 12 Day War. And it seems like now because of the scope and the breadth of everything, just more is getting through or you’re able to find out more. And I’m sure this isn’t true, if you check the BBC or just some other like ZOG regime outlet, you’re not going to be seeing anything hitting Israel. But that’s what everyone’s interested in. That’s what everyone wants to see. [chuckling] You know, how many hypersonics hit Tel Aviv? This time, you know what US asset has just been blown up by a drone in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or wherever it is. That’s what people are interested in seeing. They want to see the underdog smacking the bully in the mouth. And that’s what happens when a cheap Shahed drone gets through a multi-million dollar interceptor screen and like blows up a THAAD [Terminal High Altitude Area Defense] radar system or something. That’s what everyone’s into, right? Everyone wants to see that. No one wants to see like Iranian suburbs being like caught on fire and hit with JDAMs and hit with Tomahawk missiles because that’s just brutal civilian casualties, which is what ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] is good at.

 

Yuro: Well, the funny thing is to see America in this war using the copy of the Iranian kamikaze drones. They’ve got their own basically one to one copy of the Shahed drone that they’ve now rolled out and they’re starting to fire back at the Iranians. Because it was just like the near perfect design that they’re like:

 

“We can’t make any better than this. We’re just going to copy it.”

 

Natty: Yeah. You know, for the grand and mighty American empire is reverse engineering Third World brownoid country drones [chuckling] that sound like lawnmowers when they’re flying through the sky!

 

But yeah, that’s what America’s up to these days. I mean, you can’t really claim it’s the European heritage stock that’s like the most genius country in the world. It’s just not that anymore, I’m afraid, guys.

 

Mark Collett: Well, I agree. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. So and we do actually have just. We do have a little sort of running order as well, tonight. I’m not going to read it out, but I was going to post it actually and say:

 

“Look, these are all the things we’ll be discussing.”

 

But there’s a lot to discuss and we’re going to go through things from the start. Now we’re going to speed run some of the bits we talked about on the Nationalist A-Team because for anyone who watched the Nationalist A-Team and enjoys it, look, it is a banger of a stream, except for when I get killed by somebody and get upset.

 

But other than that! It is a good stream. And if you want to watch it, there’s some takes there. And also there’s the Patriarch there as well who provides quite a lot of good comedy.

 

Anyway, so we’re going to start with the wider justification for this because there’s nowhere better to start than the official justification. Now, I’ve seen these videos where Netanyahu, they’re sort of like compilation videos of every time Netanyahu is claimed that Iran is sort of five months, five weeks, you know, two years from getting the atomic bomb. And he’s been doing this, believe it or not, for over 30 years!

 

So the first example I’ve seen of Netanyahu saying that Iran is just moments away from like nuclear weapon capability was actually all the way back in 1995. And the reason that’s interesting, …

 

Yuro: There are people dying in this war on the American side who have not been alive longer than Iran was supposedly two weeks away from a nuclear weapon!

 

Mark Collett: That’s a very good point. That is Yuro. But you get minus points for butting in. You’ve been told about that.

 

Natty: Oh, no [word unclear] battalion!

 

Mark Collett: Wiffle bat to give you a spanking. Right. So these fake nuclear claims that are interesting for two reasons.

 

Firstly, because they are blatantly fake! It’s been, to my knowledge, 31 years. And Yuro does make, … Look to Yuro’s credit, he makes a very good point. You know, the idea that this has been going on longer than some of the people on these American battleships have been alive is incredible!

 

But one thing that struck me immediately with this was I remember living through the time of the Iraq war. And at the time of the Iraq war, Weapons of Mass Destruction became one of the most maligned phrases to have ever been used in British Parliament, to the point that where if you now say “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, it’s sort of synonymous with war crimes, lies and a regime that took us into what was essentially an illegal war. You know, there was no Weapons of Mass Destruction.

 

But one thing that shocks me is this is the kind of thing where people just seem to have either forgotten this or put it to one side.

 

So the Daily Mail is a classic example of this. The Daily Mail is sort of the populist Right-wing, you know, vote Reform, consider voting Conservative newspaper. And they were all against Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction and exposing his lies and speaking out about it once it was exposed via the Chilcot inquiry.

 

But now the Daily Mail, like:

 

“We need this war. You know, usually we’re against war, but in this instance, this needs to happen!”

 

And you’ve got all these shill commenters in the sections underneath the Daily Mail articles in the comment sections, and they’re all saying things like:

 

“Oh, I’m against the war, but this is an exception.”

 

And I don’t know whether these are real people, idiot Boomer types or that’s not all Boomers. But you know, the sort. I mean the kind of person that says:

 

“Oh, well, I’m against the people on the small boats, but I would let the genuine refugees in all. Yes! And if somebody comes here and learns to speak English, well, he’s as British as Yorkshire pudding, isn’t he!”

 

Those sort. Is it one of them or is it a shill account?

 

[11:04]

 

But I think it’s really interesting that exactly the same justification for the attack is being used, as was used in Iraq. But the Iraq, War retrospectively is possibly the most maligned conflict and the conflict seen as the most unjust conflict. Probably post World War II. I’d have said that would have gone to Vietnam at one point, but Iraq seems to have, maybe because it’s more recent, seems to have eclipsed that.

 

So what do you guys think?

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously this is what they’re saying and we’re going to discuss next the real reason and what we think the real reason is. But what do you think to this sort of fake reasoning for going to war?

 

Natty: Well, just listening to you there, I haven’t done this because I was just reminded by what you said. But I’m fairly certain if you went back to the 2000s and had a look at the lead up to the Iraq war, you, amongst the Daily Mail articles, you wouldn’t find opposition to the actual war itself, because none of these publications were really opposed to it in any meaningful way and certainly weren’t like trying to rally people against the war. So you know, post Iraq war when everyone was kind of saying what disaster it was, I’m sure the Daily Mail were jumping on board that.

 

But as even now publications that you would think would be against the war in Iran are kind of talking around the edge of it whilst not decrying the war and certainly not being like anti-war, like proper anti-war publications and laying out all the connections between the Epstein regime and the people connecting in it like Mandelson and like Boris Johnson and Tony Blair and all the rest of it.

 

But yeah, it’s striking. I mean, one of the things I put in the chat earlier was that before this happened. Well, okay, let’s let me take it back a little bit. Before Iraq, the reason why the term “Weapons of Mass Destruction” became such a big thing is because the media and the government, Blair’s regime spent so much time and energy trying to get public approval for it, because they felt like, they obviously felt like they needed it. They needed a justification. They needed something to sell to the British people as to why it was a good idea, why it was necessary to go into Iraq.

 

Now that just hasn’t happened this time. Because I think they understand that the forces controlling the “Epstein Empire” as people are calling it, which is fairly apt, simply are not in the shadows anymore. You know, this stuff has been laid out. Israel is pulling the strings and it’s pulling the strings of America and it’s America’s pulling the strings of Europe because essentially Europe is just a colony of the United States. So they don’t feel they need to justify it so much.

 

Now, obviously there’s like regime mouthpieces and stoolies like Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray, the Daily Mail and all the rest of it, who are now going out there and running cover and trying to make this war popular or make it so that it seems like:

 

“Well, it’s not a job any of us want to do, but it’s necessary and we need to do this for stability and peace!”

 

But I just don’t think the public are buying it. And the public for the most part didn’t buy it with Iraq, but that doesn’t stop that happening. And they’re not buying it with Iran either.

 

But there hasn’t been a groundswell of opposition to it in the same way as Iraq because they haven’t spent so long trying to justify it. And for a lot of people this just came out the blue. Not for anyone who’s kind of a properly dissident to the kind of Epstein Empire. This didn’t come out of the blue. This was fairly predictable. But probably just for your average person sitting at home and getting on with life, this kind of immediate blow up in the Middle East, where oil prices are about to skyrocket, petrol prices creeping up and we’re probably about to experience an energy crisis, just came out straight out of the blue! And the justifications, unlike Iraq, are all post hoc. They, it wasn’t a media build up to a war, it’s like a media cover plot after the war has started.

 

Yuro: What I find interesting as well is as you say, with the Iraq thing, there was a lot of build up and there was:

 

“Let’s get the UN involved, let’s condemn them, let’s build a coalition, let’s get Britain involved.”

 

But the other thing is they never said Iraq has a nuke. It was always this nebulous “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. And it’s kind of like the, well, we’re going to say that they have Weapons of Mass Destruction and that’s like we will say:

 

“Oh, actually they have chemical weapons which we’re going to classify as Weapons of Mass Destruction. And we’re going to hope that we can gin that up in people’s minds to be like, ‘Oh, they have a nuclear weapon’.”

 

And it was like:

 

“We won’t explicitly state they have a nuclear weapon. We’ll just try and make people think they have a nuclear weapon.”

 

And then there was the thing about:

 

“They can strike us in 45 minutes with their Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

But now they just come out and say:

 

“They’re building a nuke!”

 

It’s not Weapons of Mass Destruction. And as you say, that’s because the term is just completely lost all validity. You know, people at the moment, they hear that, they just know it’s Iraq, War 2. But they’re not even like trying to do that lesser thing.

 

It’s kind of like what they do with racism, where you’ve got like the small definition and the big definition. The Weapons of Mass Destruction is like what they do with racism.

 

So if you’re a “racist”, it’s like you just think that different people are different and you care about your own people. Well, that’s a racist. But the moment you get labelled a racist, it’s like you’re a “supremacist who wants to murder everyone who’s not you”. Well, the Weapons of Mass Destruction is chemical weapons could be a weapon of mass destruction, but the moment you get labelled with that, all of a sudden:

 

“You’ve got nukes, you’re dangerous!”

 

[17:31]

 

Natty: Yeah. And the 45 minute claim was like, they can hit the tip of Cyprus. If they drive a Scud launcher right to the edge of the Iraqi border and fire it, they might just be able to hit Cyprus! And that was translated into British headlines as “British territory”. Yeah:

 

“They can hit us in 45 minutes! Oh my God, the sky’s falling!”

 

And the reality was, it was Scud missiles and some Sarin gas artillery shells which have a range of about 10 or 15 kilometers, which they used in Halabja [1988 against Kurds] apparently. I mean, we saw, I, we got trained on that in the CBRA regiment of what happened in Halabja with the Sarin gas shells. But that was passed into, like you said, Weapons of Mass Destruction. Very nebulous. Well, not easy to disseminate term, but very little detail and very little meaning. And you could say to people:

 

“Well, they’ve got Scud launches on trucks which can fly however many kilometers it is, and they’ve got some Sarin gas shells.”

 

But these, in terms of where the United Kingdom is and the rest of Europe, these are absolutely meaningless! And again, it was just to justify the Greater Israel Project and take out one of Israel’s enemies and destroy one of Israel’s enemies.

 

Yuro: Well, I was having to think about this before we started this stream. And I said to myself, you know:

 

“There is one state, there is a rogue state in the Middle East that has Weapons of Mass Destruction.”

 

And by that I mean a boatload of actual nuclear weapons. And they have the capability of targeting Britain, …

 

Natty: And if rumours are to be believed, then the Samson Option is a real thing and Israel is the lunatic state that has no compunction about using these things. Now, I don’t know if that’s a real thing or whether that’s just something that gets disseminated to scare everyone.

 

But you’ve got to remember the only people who have used nukes as an actual weapon of war against living targets is the Epstein Regime in the Second World War. And I don’t separate the people who are running America now from those people. I mean, it’s the same group of people.

 

Yuro: If you look at the way that they behave on the world stage, the way that they behave against the Palestinians, the way that they behave against the Iranians, it wouldn’t be out of character for them to just lash out at everyone else for “not defending them hard enough”. But according to the publicly available information, they have intercontinental ballistic missiles with a range of 11 and a half thousand kilometers, which basically means they can hit everywhere on the planet with the exception of kind of east Australia, New Zealand and some bits of South America.

 

Natty: So those parts of South America where all the Nazis fled to, so unfortunately they [chuckling] can’t touch them!

 

Yuro: The parts where Javier Milei, who’s converted to Judaism, is currently in charge.

 

Natty: Oh no!

 

Yuro: And they might also not be able to quite hit Mexico where (((Claudia Sheinbaum))) is in charge.

 

Mark Collett: Oh, dear! Well, talking about the control that jews wield, let’s talk about what we think is the real reason for this.

 

Now, I’m going to go straight out and say it. I believe the real reason for this is the Greater Israel Project. I think the Greater Israel Project is something that has gathered pace in the last few years, especially under Trump. We’ve seen the attacks on Gaza, we’ve seen the attacks on Lebanon. We’ve seen the fall of the Syrian regime, which was obviously heavily influenced by Israel, who were helping Islamic terrorists in the region. You know, the head chopper ones that we’re told are the great threat to peace and justice and decency, yet Israel is actually supporting those people!

 

And we’ve also seen Israel be involved in the fall of other regimes. Israel were famously involved. And this came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. I actually did a video on this. Israel were very famously involved with meeting, … And Tony Blair admitted this under oath in the Chilcot Inquiry. He met influential jewish leaders from the then current Israeli regime. And he said:

 

“The meetings had nothing to do with military intelligence. They had everything to do with overall strategy and long term goals.”

 

So take that as you will. But I’m taking that as they were heavily involved in getting rid of Saddam Hussein.

 

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And I think it’s obviously within Israel’s interest to topple almost every sovereign regime in the region. And they do this quite openly. They are doing it more openly now. They’re getting away with it, sadly. And this is a blatant example of that. Although they’ve loosely talked about the nuke thing, like we said, Natty did make an important point that they felt it’s less necessary to sell this like they sold the Iraq, War. And in some interviews, members of the American regime have simply said:

 

“Yeah, we just want to kill these people. We want to kill them, we want to take them out. This is about regime change. This is about Israel.”

 

And I believe it was Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said:

 

“It was Israel who forced our hand. They began this and we are there to defend them and assist them. So when they began the attacks, we were forced into going along with it.”

 

Now, Trump then furiously denied this, but it’s a very interesting admission from Marco Rubio.

 

So I think this is all about the Greater Israel Project. And I believe that has been the driving force or the driving ideology behind the destabilisation of the Middle East.

 

Natty: Yeah, totally! And it kind of behooves me to say this and to get people to realise that whereas we’re living kind of day to day and prices of things go up and you’re worried about your children. We’ve been totally separated from any idea of our history and our lineage and where we’ve come from and where we might be going.

 

So it’s kind of hard to understand for us the jewish mindset. And this is a plan that’s been in the making for a very long time, years, decades, where once Israel was created and they have a vision of the Greater Israel Project. There’s a whole, there’s a list of countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt. And through various machinations, they’ve all been, one by one, they’ve been taken out or pacified. Egypt is basically paid off by the United States and is under the sway of Israel, has a border with Israel, but it doesn’t do anything about their genociding of the Palestinians and the destabilising and eventual collapse of the Syrian state. What happened in Libya with Gaddafi ending up with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street, and the subsequent flooding of Europe with migrants, which is a kind of side issue we can get onto if you want. But all of this, …

 

Mark Collett: I’ve got that further down the line, mate, that comes at the end, if you look at the show notes, I’ve actually said:

 

“You know, what are the actual repercussions for this, both for the West and for the Middle East?”

 

And that’s one of the things we will talk about.

 

Natty: Yeah, for sure. And it’s clear now, I mean, in my opinion and the opinion of other people who have been following this, that the reason Trump was so heavily pushed into a second term was that the people who are running him and the jews in Israel believe that he was the best chance of getting this done. You know, this final push to topple Iran, which basically gets rid of the last bastion of resistance to Israel. And you’ve got to think:

 

“Well, why is Israel so hell bent on getting rid of people who resist them?”

 

You think, well, the people who are opposing them, the only real people who are opposing them, committing genocide in Gaza, Europe was on board with it. The United States was supplying them with bombs and had carrier groups in the Mediterranean. The United Kingdom, our own government, was flying surveillance flights over Gaza and letting Cyprus be used as a refueling and an air base for Israel. So Europe was aiding in the genocide in Gaza.

 

And it was only Hezbollah and you know, funded via Iran that was really attacking, and the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were attacking Israel and trying to hold them account for genociding the Gazan people. And that’s unacceptable for Israel to have that resistance in the region, even though the attacks on it are totally justified and being used as like, defense against people who are being hurt and destroyed in this like, brutal way by this lunatic, lunatic group of people who have been squatting on the edge of a Mediterranean.

 

So the justifications the real justification is the toppling of Iran as a coherent state. And I’ll touch on this before I pass this over to Yuro. But there’s talk of regime change. You know, that’s what they say:

 

“We’re trying to enact regime change here.”

 

But that isn’t quite true. They’re not really interested in a regime swap where they swap one regime for another. What they’re interested in is total destabilisation! Just like with Syria, just like with Iraq, just like with Libya, where these are just failed states with tribal warlords with like Mossad and CIA run groups running around HTS, ISIS, all of these people. Which means no coherent defense, no missile bases, no civil defense, nothing! Just a load of groups that you can pay this group to fight this group and you know, you can pay these guys or stop paying these guys and just let chaos reign while Israel just expands and expands and expands and gets to do what it wants.

 

You know, kind of reminiscent, I’ll just finish on this. Kind of reminiscent to how if you import millions and millions of foreign people into a small island nation, it also becomes destabilised and coherent resistance or coherent defense or coherent politics kind of become very difficult and a very well motivated minority can rule the lot! So there’s your answer as to the real reasons for this war.

 

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Yuro: A few things I wanted to pick up on there. Just as Mark was speaking, you kept using the term “regime”. And that’s like one of those MKUltra trigger words that they’ve put in people’s minds that like “regime is bad, regime is authoritarian, evil government”. It was all it was always the “Saddam regime” and the “Iran regime”. They’re just governments. They’re a different form of government. You know some of them are more or less Democratic than others, but it’s like this regime thing is a trigger word. And along that same lines, Natty, you mentioned the Houthis as “rebels”. I think the ones that we call Houthis are pretty much just the government of Yemen now. I mean, and they have pockets of what’s left of the people that they overthrew. But they’re basically just the government of Yemen. They’re not rebels anymore. They’re not a regime, they’re just that government.

 

But obviously this was all part of a plan. This is something that they’ve been going at for a very long time. They had the Project for a New American Century [PNAC] where they said we want to hit like seven countries in 10 years. And they’ve basically got all of them.

 

I mean, they wanted to get Iraq, they wanted to get Syria, they wanted to get Libya, and of course it’s neocon jews behind it all.

 

So that’s been happening for a very long time. There’s a reason why they caught a bunch of jewish Israelis dancing on 911*, already filming before the first plane went into those towers. They were dancing around, they were happy because they knew that was the excuse that they needed to start their own genocidal campaign. And it’s like dominoes falling. They get this one, then they get that one. And I mean, what happens to Libya? He, Gaddafi, gave up his weapons, chemical weapons and things like that.

 

[* 9/11: A false flag carried out by ZOG with Israel being the lead behind its planning and execution. The aim was to unleash the War OF Terror on the countries around Israel, among other aims. See See Also links below, especially the work by Christopher Bollyn.]

 

And as soon as they were gone, they were like:

 

“Right, well he’s defenseless, we can go in there and kill him now!”

 

So that’s what they proceeded to do.

 

And the other thing as well, like looking at what they’re doing to Iran, I mean, you talked about them wanting to destabilise them. As far as I understand, because they can’t really hit these military targets. They don’t know exactly where all the underground bases are and where they’re being launched from. So they’re targeting, I mean, apart from like primary schools for girls and things like that, which they do just because they’re evil and want to blow up kids when they’re not abusing kids in other ways, they’re just like targeting police stations and things like that. Just like blow up all the police stations in the country and hope it destabilises that way!

 

And of course they had this gayop a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they tried to incite some sort of terrorist uprising in Iran and that failed.

 

And obviously they wanted to coincide these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: But I was going to say that was obviously hilariously mistimed. [chuckling] Right? So they fermented this terrorist uprising and meanwhile they haven’t got all like the military assets in place to strike it. I mean, you might have a better idea of this than me, you guys, but maybe they thought in the January uprisings that they like funded all these terrorist groups to try and overthrow the government of Iran. Maybe they thought that it was still going to be going on now while they moved all these carrier groups and pulled their troops out of the Gulf oil state bases. Maybe they thought it was still going to be going on and that the Iran government was still going to be fighting these guys, but it was crushed within like a few days. Right!

 

Yuro: I have a feeling that maybe they were trying to like wait a little bit longer, but it was about to be compromised and they thought:

 

“If we don’t do it now, we miss the opportunity entirely.”

 

So they had to launch it. And they spent so long getting carriers into place to attack Iran because they’ve had these problems with the sewage system on the Gerald Ford, which obviously some people are saying that’s like a deliberate thing, that soldiers or sailors have clogged the tubes on purpose to destroy the system because they don’t want to go and die and be the next false flag. But they’ve had problems with that before. So it’s not entirely out of the realms of possibility that it is sort of coincidental to some degree.

 

But yeah, obviously that was something that delayed them. So I mean we can be glad about that because it’s meant that Iran’s not facing these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: I’m not sure. Look, I’m not a, like a military analyst or anything, but I’m not sure even if the like Epstein empire, the Epstein regime, had fermented this terrorist uprising whilst they carried out this first strike against Khomeini in a little girl’s school for some reason, whether if those two things occurred, coincided, even then, whether they’d have been able to pull off this kind of toppling of the regime. It seems like, …

 

Yuro: Regime?

 

Natty: Look, [chuckling] it’s the word everyone uses here! I can try, but I’m as susceptible to the MKUltra* terms as everyone else. Right? I’m just not sure it would have worked even if they had pulled it off at the same time.

 

[* MKUltra was a covert program run by the CIA from 1953 to 1973. Its primary goal was to explore methods of mind control and behavior modification through various means, including drugs and psychological techniques. MKUltra is widely condemned for its unethical practices, including: Lack of Consent: Many subjects were unaware they were part of experiments. Abusive Techniques: Included torture, isolation, and drugging without consent. The term MKUltra is a CIA cryptonym: “MK” is an arbitrary prefix standing for the Office of Technical Service and “Ultra” is an arbitrary word out of a dictionary used to name this project.]

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, we’re going to go on to that anyway, so let’s move a little bit further forward because there are other things we want to talk about.

 

Now, I think the next thing we need to talk about, we’ve placed this into context, talk about the Greater Israel Project. Now I think the next thing that’s very important is discussing the issue of these fake negotiations that America has had with the likes of Iran before all of this kicked off.

 

And they obviously had similar sort of fake negotiations with, I think it was Venezuela, didn’t they? And then they go in anyway. This is something that America started doing, you know, fake negotiations, but then we come and get you anyway.

 

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Yuro: I think they had a similar thing with the, like Hezbollah and Hamas, didn’t they?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, there’s multiple examples.

 

But what I’m getting at is a real, and we won’t labour this because we spoke about this extensively on the Nationalist A-Team the other night, but when we were talking about that, we did make the point that fundamentally at one point the idea of going in somewhere you know, negotiating, but then using negotiations as a reason or as an excuse to then hit another country. So the negotiations aren’t real negotiations. They’re cover that gets the other side to drop their guard. So, it’s like walking up somebody in a bar saying:

 

“Look, mate, let’s just settle this amicably. Let me buy you a drink. What do you want?”

 

And when the other guy turns to have a look at the list of craft beers, you sucker punch him! You know, that’s an underhanded thing to do. Everyone would be like:

 

“Wow, that’s pretty much scandalous! We don’t want to see that kind of behaviour. That’s the kind of behaviour that’s not becoming of an honourable man.”

 

And there used to be this narrative that the West was honourable, that we were the good guys. And I’ll say these fake negotiations are being used as a means to cover up an attack which is I’m imminent. I do think that is a really shady thing to do.

 

And I think that as time goes by, we are going to see more and more people be unwilling to negotiate with the West. Like, why would Vladimir Putin or China or any other nation, North Korea, negotiate with Trump? Why would any foreign leader trust going to America or sitting in a negotiation room with the Americans when they assassinate leaders, carry out fake negotiations, use the hand of friendship to lock their opponent’s hand in place before they sucker punch them? You know, it’s like holding one hand out to shake the other guy’s hand and when he starts giving the handshake, you just sucker punch them! You know, it’s awful! I mean, what do you guys think to this?

 

I think this is going to fundamentally change the way, the implication of this, is going to change the way that every other nation does business with America. And it’ll put America on a even people like the Europeans, who are essentially vassal states of America, are not going to be trusting of Trump again or America.

 

Yuro: Well, Europe is already not going to be trusting of Trump and America because of the whole thing with Greenland for a start. But I mean, I hope at the end of this, obviously Iran’s going to hold out. They’re going to continue to resist until America and Israel, …

 

Mark Collett: This is the summation, what you hope for comes at the end, like, stay on, …

 

Yuro: It’s related to this! It’s related to this. I was going to say I hope that Israel and America run out of interceptor missiles. Iran fights them to a standstill. And they say:

 

“Right, we will negotiate with Trump in this place.”

 

He goes there to negotiate, and then, …

 

Natty: They just blow him up! [chuckling]

 

Yuro: And it would be entirely justified on moral grounds and on the grounds that it’s already been done to them.

 

Natty: They would cry bitter tears if the same tactics they had used, these same underhand, cowardly, sniveling, weak tactics were used on them! And this is something to point out to. I say I’m gonna use Boomer, but, like, Boomer mindset, Civnat, kind of Tommy Robinson-tard mindset where like:

 

“Oh, yeah, no, we’re the good guys and we should stamp these dirty terrorists into the ground! They’re terrorists!”

 

It’s like your pedo jew empire assassinates little girls for some reason, I guess because they’ve just got bloodlust and we can talk about the Purim Fest, if we want. Assassinates little girls, assassinates world leaders, which is supposed to be off the table. Totally violates, like, any notion of the Geneva Convention or the kind of rules of war and does it in a cowardly way. This is like your medieval knight marching out to the front of a battle under a white flag to negotiate terms and then just pulling a knife and stabbing the negotiator. Your entire army would be, they’re like, forfeit. And the enemy army would be totally justified in just slaughtering prisoners and like, just pillaging and doing whatever it wants at that stage! You’ve set the rules. You’re supposed to be the powerful, the one who’s setting out exactly how things are going to go down. And you open the conflict or the latest round of the conflict with an underhand cowardly assassination under the flag of truce and blowing up 170 schoolgirls! Well, I’m sorry, but what space have you now given for quarters? None! And no one’s going to trust you, and they shouldn’t trust you.

 

And the other world powers looking on Russia and China, who we’re going to touch on in a little while, like Mark said, they’re not going to be trustworthy. They’re going to have that in their minds anytime America tries to talk to them, anytime the jew empire reaches out to say:

 

“Oh, we just want to discuss the Ukraine war and negotiate terms in the Ukraine war.”

 

And like, Yuro said, they would be totally justified in shooting down like diplomatic planes, like bombing, like delegations, peace delegations, assassinating the head of state. Who’s to tell anyone now that that is a wrong or immoral thing to do now that supposedly the world police and a global superpower and the most moral army in the world, Israel, has carried out exactly that, such a thing.

 

And I don’t need to belabour the point, but they’ve been doing this for a long time. And you can look back as far as Dresden and the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, to say:

 

“Well, that’s how these people act! And people who oppose them should act accordingly and plan accordingly.”

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I agree. And not only this or not only what you guys have said, but I do think it’s very interesting that on top of everything you guys have said, there is also the issue of Russia and Zelensky.

 

Now obviously if Russia had wanted to, they could have bombed Kiev, day one of the conflict and absolutely just beheaded the regime. Now Russia never did that. Now I’m not saying Russia are the good guys or shilling for Russia, but it is an interesting comparison to see that everything that Russia has been accused of, the West has done and the West has done it in a much more sort of egregious fashion. It’s quite interesting.

 

And this so-called “Axis of Evil” now appears to be far less evil than the “good guys”. The “good guys” have shown, I said that in inverted commas. Have shown their hand. They’ve, it’s a mask off moment. I don’t know if anyone wants to add something to this because we did talk about this a lot, but I’ll give you the chance to follow up if anyone wants to talk about this.

 

Natty: Yeah, go on. Yuro, you go first.

 

Yuro: I was just gonna say it’s a complete moral inversion. It’s, we are supposedly the good guys because we fight against the bad guys. And they’re all terrorists. They’re inherently evil. I was listening to, I think this was on the Daily Shoah they were talking about basically the term “terrorist” is a social construction. It’s just a word we can use to label somebody and all of a sudden their grievances illegitimate. We don’t have to stick to the rules of engagement. We can just murder them, we can murder their families and put them in jail. We just put this label on them and they are inherently evil.

 

But you know, the Ayatollah was never in the Epstein files. That’s the difference.

 

Natty: Yeah, the Ayatollah never called me a goyim or demographically replaced my people or ethnically cleansed my people. So you know, what beef do I have with the Ayatollah, at this point? And like Mark was saying, the Russians opened Ukraine, the Ukraine conflict by striking out military targets. They were landing at Hostomel Airport and controlling like major supply routes. And the Jewpedo regime starts its war with an assassination of a leader, or a spiritual leader. Not a military strategist or anything like that. A spiritual leader who’s in his 80s as well as his granddaughter and his family members all blown up. And like blowing up a school with 12 to 17 year old school girls in it. Now you tell me, yeah, you tell me who the bad guys are.

 

Yuro: It’s worth pointing out as well that the entire war in Ukraine or although it was something that had been kind of slowly building up for a while, that NATO had been expanding further and further eastward, it was really brought to the fore because Russia was supporting Assad in Syria. And the Epstein empire had to take out Syria in order to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hezbollah and getting to Gaza.

 

And so they started this whole other conflict to take Russia’s focus away from helping their allies in Syria. And that allowed them to get in there and destroy Syria. And it’s all part of the same program.

 

Natty: The same grand strategy. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people kind of don’t seem to understand that. They’re like:

 

“Well that seems, that seems too far fetched that the Pedojew regime would start a war with Russia in Ukraine just to help topple the Syrian government. Or the Pedo jew regime would kidnap a South American president just to support an ongoing or like support a future war against Iran with oil, you know, oil routes and all the rest of it.”

 

Because people are like:

 

“No, that can’t be right, you know, 50,000 Ukrainian men dead and God knows how many Russian men dead just to tie up Russian forces to leave Syria exposed?”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, that’s how these people think. That’s what they’re willing to do.”

 

And that’s what they did do. And in Syria, Russian troops, Russian air power in Syria was halting Israeli aggression and you know, Western aggression. It was the CIA, it was MI6 and was Mossad, was paying ISIS, which has now become HTS, which is basically ISIS, to mess up Syria and mess with Assad and sanctions on Assad’s government that was turning the place inhospitable. Making it so that just to live there was pain and it wasn’t the government was obviously suffering and trying its best, but the people suffer when you put sanctions on a country. So on behest of like jewish paedophiles and Israel, America just makes people’s lives a misery around the world, everywhere! You know, Ukrainian men dead, Syrian families wiped out, little girls in Iran, hundreds of thousands of civilians everywhere, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Libya, all dead! Because jewish paedophiles just cannot get enough blood.

 

Yuro: And until the extent that they have any support for the Israeli regime in places like the UK, people in the UK who support Israel, they see this as a war against the Muslims. And they hate Muslims because of what gangs of Pakistani men do to White girls after jewish people like Peter Mandelson and his friend Tony Blair, people like that brought them to our country.

 

And it works for them both ways because it destroys the youth of the British people. It destroys our homogeneous country. It creates resentment against Muslims which they can then use and say:

 

“Well, don’t you hate the Muslims, you hate the Pakistanis who are raping children over here!”

 

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Natty: Yeah:

 

“Live vicariously as we bomb them in the Middle East. Oh, we’re getting those dirty Muslims for you know, goyim! Don’t worry, we’re bombing them. You love it, don’t you? Rah, rah, ra! Let’s go Israel! Israel’s defending you! If we weren’t fighting them here, you’d be fighting them in your streets!”

 

Well, how? Okay, thanks, Schlomo. How did they get onto my streets in the first place? Anyone fancy answer that, answering that question?

 

Mark Collett: No, that’s a very good point. Now obviously we discussed that.

 

So when we discussed the Ayatollah being killed, we’ve discussed the schoolgirls being killed. I mean, know, as you said, the paedophiles are now murdering children. And this says something about America and Israel.

 

Now, I don’t think this was an accident. I don’t think that school being hit was in any way an accident. I think they did that on purpose. I think that’s the sort of people that they are. I think they do things like this because it pleases them to do things like this. And it pleases them to do things like this because to them this is they could avoided doing this, but they don’t want to avoid doing this. What they want to do is they want to cause as much hurt and pain as possible. Now these missile systems that they have, they are probably the best missile systems in the world. They understand where they can strike and where they can’t strike. Those missiles are pretty damn accurate.

 

So when they hit a school, I think that’s by some sort of sick design. I don’t believe it’s accidental. I don’t know if you guys want to add anything to that.

 

Natty: Yeah, there’s a term called “sub-metre accuracy” and I think Tomahawk missiles, I’m not sure about JDAMs, but certainly Tomahawk missiles and the types of missiles that the Jewpedo regime uses all have sub-metre accuracy.

 

So the claims about:

 

“Well, this girl school was next to a Iranian military base or something.”

 

These munitions have sub-metre accuracy, which means they can target within a metre, which is where they drop these bombs. I mean, are we supposed to pretend that the Pedojew regime is somehow like squeamish about blowing up children and civilians? A regime that goes out of its way to target hospitals and suburbs and then when it’s blown up the hospitals and suburbs, then blows up the tent cities that spring up around it to house all the refugees and injured people that you’ve just like totally displaced.

 

So these people are not squeamish about killing civilians then. They never have been. They never have been. Not for the last 70 years and probably not before that.

 

Yuro: We’re always told that we have the most advanced, precise, ultra accurate munitions. We can take out a terrorist in a crowd without killing anyone else:

 

“Oh, look, we dropped a bomb dead centre on that school. Total accident! We don’t know how it happened!”

 

Do you remember when they were attacking Gaza? I mean they’re always attacking Gaza, but in particular in the aftermath of October 7th and there were various organisations that went there to try to provide food relief and they had a car with a big logo on the top that says, “Food Kitchen”. It’s a non-governmental organisation, it’s a charity that’s bringing food to starving people in Gaza. And they sent a munition. It’s like a missile, but instead of a bomb, it’s got just like razor blades all around it.

 

And you can see the picture of the car, they sent it straight through the roof, directly on top of the driver’s seat and cut that man to bits! That’s how accurate they can be when they want to be. So they have the ability to do that they have the ability to do it. It is not an accident when they, …

 

Natty: The other interesting thing about the strike on the girls school was in the immediate aftermath, like there were shills online, there were online shills and righttoids and jews and all sorts of like scum coming out the woodwork claiming again, like they used to do in Gaza or like they have done in Gaza, that:

 

“Oh, this was an Iranian missile that kind of missed a target or misfired as they fired it out of Tehran and fell back on the girl school.”

 

Which was utterly disproved! And yet, you know, none of the people who were claiming this was like an Iranian misfire will ever be held to account or ever be made to apologise or made to like confront their lies about what this was. So the misinformation is hot and heavy.

 

But if you think, like I said, I’m going to reiterate this, if you think the Pedojew regime is squeamish about blowing up children, you’re mistaken. They’re not squeamish about blowing them up. Probably the only disappointing thing for the Pedojew regime is that these girls were blown up and didn’t have a chance to be like, sent off to Epstein’s island or something like that.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. The next thing is, this is quite interesting because it’s not the first time that Israel have admitted to bombing civilian populations. And we’ve discussed that they did it in Lebanon. They do it quite indiscriminately, they do it in Gaza.

 

But one thing’s quite interesting about these particular bombings and you guys made the point that they were bombing police stations. And I think they believe that they bombed police stations and took out government leaders and spiritual leaders, that there was going to be a revolution. And we’ve constantly heard this nonsense in the West, haven’t we? That the Iranian regime is hideously unpopular, that normal people in Iran hate the Ayatollah, they hate the government, the police, every organ of the state. I’d actually say more people in Britain hate Keir Starmer than people in Iran hate the Ayatollah.

 

But one thing that’s been very interesting is post these strikes and these indiscriminate missile attacks on schools, police stations and other sites around Tehran, we’ve seen more people out in the street supporting the Iranian government and wanting to fight back against America. I think that really underlines the fact that this idea that the Iranian people are all kept down, they have the Ayatollah’s boot on their head, this is nothing more than propaganda.

 

Natty: Oh, of course! It’s quite interesting to juxtapose it.

 

Can you imagine like a protest, or a march with hundreds of thousands of people ever coming out for any European government? I mean, the closest you got in the West was Trump, right? And that is quickly turned to ash in a lot of people’s mouths. He’s been exposed as basically just another neocon.

 

But if you put yourself in the shoes of like an Iranian, a normal Iranian citizen who’s just watched every single country where his kind of ethnic people, I know that Persians are maybe looked at differently than other people are on the Gulf states, whatever. All the other countries around him who aren’t in league with Israel have been like, brutally broken up and just left as failed states. Well, you’re going to want to cling to anything that stands up to these people and anything that resists being destroyed by them, because you know that if your government falls, that’s the end of any semblance of stability or normality you’ve got. You’re just going to have to either flee or deal with a failed state of a nation. So, of course they support it!

 

And you listen to like the BBC or Piers Morgan or some of these shows and you would think that, …

 

Mark Collett: Andrew Neil!

 

Natty: Yeah, he’s the worst! He’s a total Zio boot licker, man! I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen! [LOL] But like, you listen to these people and you’d think that every single person in Iran is just waiting, crouched behind their door, ready to rise up and take out this hugely unpopular government that everyone hates.

 

And like you said, there’s no government in Europe or anywhere in the West that is as popular with its people as the Iranian government. So take that as you will.

 

Yuro: Obviously, you know, Iran, I mean, I’m guessing, but much like most of the Middle East is awash with weapons from previous gayops and plans that we’ve had to overthrow them in the past.

 

But if you turn this around and let’s say some foreign actor blew up Parliament with every MP in it and blew up every diversity police station across the country and just dropped a bunch of weapons the chance of having a revolution would be much more likely here than it ever would be over there!

 

Natty: Yeah. And just to add on to this point, funnily enough, the strikes on Bahrain, and Bahrain’s a tiny little island nation. I mean, it used to be part of Iran. But the strikes on Bahrain look like they might actually foment a revolution because they’re kind of the Pedojew empire installed monarchy in Bahrain has lost its grip thanks to the Americans retreating and the actual people in Bahrain absolutely hate their rulers. And possibly, you know, news blackout and all the rest of it might actually foment a popular revolution in Bahrain and change governments there, [chuckling] which is supposed to be like a stronghold for the American empire and the Epstein regime and the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, which controls the Persian Gulf or it used to control the Persian Gulf until the Pedojew regime started this war. So yeah, good one, guys. How’s it going? How’s this war going for you?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I would say that you’ve got a very good point there. And it’s a good point because we are moving on to how is this war going? Well, this is the interesting thing. Trump was elected as the guy who was going to be the President of peace and he was also elected on this America First ticket.

 

The idea that he was going to look after the average American. Now since Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, we’ve seen sort of panic buying. Oil prices have spiked. This is something that isn’t helping normal Americans who are already struggling with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.

 

And I would say, for Trump, when you actually look at, you say, how’s it going for him personally? It’s not going well domestically, but his approval ratings are at an all time low. They’re actually beneath his previous approval ratings for his first term and actually beneath Biden’s approval ratings. Now he’s getting savaged.

 

Now obviously he’s going out on TV:

 

“Oh, none of these mean anything. This is rubbish! The people love me!”

 

And I’ve spoken about this before. Post World War II don’t think any Western leader has built a cult of personality as intense as Trump has done with the MAGA movement. Trump has truly built a cult of personality where people see him as the supreme leader.

 

But I think that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing! It’s a good thing because you have a dedicated support base. It’s a bad thing because often you become insulated and you only listen to that dedicated support base. And because you have that insulation, because you have that ring of people cheering you on and like:

 

“Up Trump! Yeah, you’re doing it right! You’re getting it right! Donald’s got it perfect! Bomb them all!”

 

You don’t actually hear the people outside of your immediate circle. And I think Trump has got this wrong. I think this is going to bring more misery on normal Americans. And I also think it could cost the Republicans the midterm.

 

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Yuro: I don’t think Trump got this wrong. I think Trump did this because his handlers wanted him to do this. I mean, was it Marco Rubio who basically came out and said Israel told us they were going to attack and when they attacked, we were going to get hit in response, so we just had to join them, basically, the tail wags the dog. We had to join in. They forced our hand.

 

And of course, Trump’s all over the Epstein files. He’s part of the Epstein class. He is part of that jewish Zionist Occupied Government [ZOG]. He’s not doing it because he thinks it’s going to make him popular. He’s doing it because he is either severely compromised or that’s just his team.

 

Natty: Yeah. And to assume that Trump cares anymore, I mean, he’s not up for a third term. And if he doesn’t care, do you think the jews who are running him and the Epstein, whoever takes over from Epstein cares about Trump’s reputation or cares even less about the American people and what they want? They were just dupes who were fooled into voting for him. And you can say:

 

“Well, the 2016 Trump train.”

 

Which was a lot more based and had a lot more kind of like groundswell, Right-wing energy behind it. Well:

 

“They were tricked as well. Right?”

 

But if you fell for it again and voted for him this time, they really must despise you and just think you’re the most stupid person ever going! And it’s been proven right. I mean, Trump has now burned any credibility he’s had. This is an extremely unpopular war, but it doesn’t matter. His reputation isn’t on the line anymore, and it’s not a consideration for the people pulling his strings. They wanted this war done. Trump was their best shot of getting it done. And so they’ve got him to enact it.

 

And what we’re seeing is the fallout. And who knows where this ends? I’m sure we’re going to move on to that point. But the suffering of the American people, the suffering of European people is not any concern to these people! And you might argue that European suffering and American suffering is just a little bit of icing on their cake.

 

Yuro: This is something that they’ve wanted for decades and they’ve realised that as time’s gone on its getting less and less possible. So they’ve done it now because now is more likely than tomorrow as bad as it is and as badly as they’re doing and not winning what they want to be. If they’d waited longer, they would have had even less chance.

 

So it’s just like it’s do or die. It’s all out now because they’ve got no other choice.

 

Natty: Right. That’s what I totally agree with that.

 

And what I’m saying is the considerations that like a rational government that cared about its people would make, and there’s going to be an energy crisis, our people are going to die in this war. It’s hugely unpopular. This doesn’t benefit us in the slightest. None of that is like, none of that is in consideration. And it’s clear when you listen to people that they don’t quite understand that. And you listen to like the media class trying to justify this war and just grasping for anything.

 

Whereas like the reality, the truth, that this is purely for Israel and purely for the pedojew empire just doesn’t, it’s quite a hard pill to swallow.

 

Yuro: And as always, it’s going to affect Europe and it’s going to affect the UK so much worse than it’s going to affect America, because America has its own energy supplies.

 

Whereas, you know, Europe has been deliberately cut off from Russian energy supplies and made to not take fuel from Iran in the first place. And so Europeans are probably going to freeze this winter because of what the Americans have done or the jewish-American empire has done. Yeah.

 

Natty: Not content with cutting off via like a jewishpedo regime war with Russia. Not content with cutting off like the majority of European energy supplies. Now [chuckling] the pedojew empire now starts another war in the Gulf, which will just totally screw energy prices. And I like you guys know this, but I’m in the middle of, I’ve almost finished building my house and part of that was installing a heating system and we’ve got like a central heating system.

 

Yuro: Didn’t install a heat pump, did you?

 

Natty: We did not install a heat pump. We installed a central heating oil boiler which we needed to run up as like commissioning the system [chuckling] and like we went to fill it up the day after this started and the price of central heating oil was like 63 per litre. And the day after this thing started and Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it went up by like 33 P per litre and it’s now at like 1 pound 33 a litre. So I know this isn’t funny because this is going to affect everyone, but it’s like these are real effects and no the people who started this war just don’t care about this. You haven’t felt this at the pumps yet, but my God, like you are going to and the whole of Europe is going to, so.

 

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Yuro: And it will be White pensioners who freeze whilst illegal migrants can turn up the heating as much as they want in hotels and non-Whites all over will get preferential benefits and help to make sure that they’re looked after while our people suffer.

 

Natty: Yeah, I mean that’s a given at this point.

 

But yeah, we’re about to be hit with this thing. I mean, unless it wraps up quickly, which is not going to happen.

 

Yuro: Even if it did wrap up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks. I mean this is what always happens when there’s a, like the price of oil shoots up, petrol prices shoot up, the price, …

 

Natty: Two days for it to rise. 106. Yeah, six weeks for it to creep its way back down. Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: They’re very interesting points and obviously it sort of goes into what we said before about Venezuela. It puts everything into context.

 

Now one of the things that he’s really. We’re going to talk a bit about the fight back here and what Iran has done, its retaliatory strikes, but one of the most disappointing things is they talk about this Axis of Evil, but so far Russia have condemned this. I’m not sure what China have said, if anything at all, but there’s largely a wave of silence about this, isn’t there? There isn’t sort of the international, … So when Russia started their, in inverted commas. They’re not my words, but their words, “the Special Military Operation”, you know, there was this wave of condemnation from every European country about the invasion of Ukraine.

 

However, here, this so-called “Axis of Evil”, China, Russia, etc, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of pushback other than a couple of snappy press statements.

 

And I think this does tell you something about Russia and China’s ability or readiness to get involved. Now I would say China is more concerned with potentially taking Taiwan. And the knock on effects of this is, well, China will look and say:

 

“If America can take out the leadership of countries they don’t like, why can’t we do the same to Taiwan?”

 

And I think Russia is still tied up in Ukraine, which is probably by design. I think part of the issue with Ukraine was pulling Russia so deep into Ukraine that it depleted their resources in places like Syria. So regimes did fall in areas that America wanted them, America and Israel wanted them to fall.

 

But what do you think about the lack of sort of international pushback on this?

 

Yuro: It’s obvious that the Chinese and Russians are helping the Iranians in terms of intelligence gathering, satellite imagery. Supposedly the Iranian missiles use like an encrypted Chinese GPS as opposed to the American run satellites.

 

But yeah, they’re not coming out and publicly saying a lot and they could be doing a lot more kind of out in the open. And if they were really serious, the Chinese and Russians could help the Iranians develop an actual nuclear weapon to allow them to have a deterrent to defend themselves. And that could have happened, you know, within the last decade, but we don’t see them doing it.

 

Natty: Well, I made this point to mark the other day. This is where I kind of disagree with you a little bit. I think there’s only so much they can do. And Russia can’t just import a nuke into Tehran or into Iran without them asking for it. And if you’ve been paying attention, …

 

Yuro: Well, they should ask for it then!

 

Natty: Well that’s, maybe you’re right and they probably should and they probably will if they ever, if they get through this thing in one piece. But Russia has to be asked to provide that nuke. And the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini has famously had a fatwa on acquiring nuclear weapons. Which, you know, looking back to how we opened this thing puts lie to the fact that:

 

“Iran is two weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is five weeks away from having a nuke!”

 

For the last 30 years, every couple of weeks. So for one, Iran has to ask these countries for things. And I’m fairly certain that Russia is providing military assistance. You know, maybe not flashy supersonic missiles and all the rest of it, but you know it’s a short hop across the Caspian Sea for Russia to send boats and send equipment down to Tehran as much as it can. Like you said, Mark, they’re tied up in Ukraine as per the pedojew regime’s plan.

 

And like you said, Yuro. They’re using encrypted Chinese satellite data for their missiles. And I’m sure, like satellite imagery of the surrounding Gulf states and areas that Iranian like ballistic missiles and drones are hitting is provided by the Chinese.

 

So I think Russia and China understand the stakes here and understand that if Iran falls or we’re kind of at a turning point in history of the future of the Pedojew regime empire and where it stands and if it manages to pull this off and destroy Iran, then who knows what’s next? And we, I guess, we can talk about that. But for Russia and China, they probably think that actually halting the Pedojew regime here is probably a good thing to do.

 

And as much as much as they can do under the table, they’re going to do. And if it gets any hotter than that, well, who knows? But I disagree with you that they’re not helping as much as they could be.

 

Yuro: I don’t expect them to hand over a dozen nuclear weapons and say:

 

“Here you go!”

 

But why is Iran using such an antiquated air force instead of more modern Russian fighter planes, for example? Like, things like that would not be outside of the realm of possibility.

 

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Natty: Well, because that’s not where the Iranian like, national defense has been focused. America, whatever you like to say about it, dominates the air and it always has. It has the most advanced and the most aeroplanes that it can put in the sky. You know, carrier groups all over the place, air bases all over the place. And Iran has had a long time to prepare for this. They’ve watched what’s happened around them and has decided actually our best national defense is in this missile capability and drone capability. And if Russia sent a squadron of like Su-22s or whatever the latest MIGs are, they would probably be shot down in fairly short order, which would be waste of resources.

 

So I think this idea, like I said, I think this idea that they’re not helping as much as they can is misplaced.

 

And interestingly enough, Arab Natsoc in the chat has just said Iran has a hyper fixation on self sufficiency. And he says it’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.

 

And I think that’s probably correct. Like I said it’s not up to China and Russia just to unload the docks in some port somewhere. Just tons and tons of military hardware that Iran never asked for. You know, they’ve got to agree these things and they’ve got to ask for it and they’ve got to trade for it and give things away and they probably feel they don’t need to. And judging by what’s happening so far, maybe they’re right. They didn’t need it. Maybe whatever they’ve asked for, they’re utilising and anything they haven’t asked for, they don’t really need.

 

Yuro: [with a Russian accent]

 

“I’m sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to leave that pallet of nuclear weapons. You can do what you like with them.”

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, [chuckling] I did say this in all fairness, mate, I think I did say to you it would probably, to do something like this or to create a deal of that sort you would probably actually need for the Iranian regime to fundamentally turn around and say:

 

“Look, you’re gonna have half of our country, you’re gonna have X amount of our oil production. You’re going to be able to put your own bases on our soil. You’re going to have this power over us.”

 

And then Russia or China might say:

 

“Well, this is actually worth it. Then we will put bases on your soil. This is absolutely worth it! We’re going for it. Thanks. Thanks a bunch, guys. You know, this works.”

 

But the Iranians might not actually want that they might not actually want Russia and China to have that much control over Iranian politics.

 

Natty: Yeah, that’s absolutely right!

 

And if you think about it, that would turn Iran into a, like a, not exactly a vassal state, but as a, like an arm of Russia or an arm of China.

 

Whereas if they come out of this unscathed, they emerge as the regional power in the Middle East, which has much bigger implications for them and then makes them bigger on the world stage than just being an outpost of Russia or China.

 

Yuro: But they could trade on more equal terms with the North Koreans. And the North Koreans have come out and said:

 

“If they ask for a nuke, they’ll get one.”

 

Natty: Well maybe they will. I suspect the Iranian government is going to be much more looking at that idea much more favourably after this.

 

Mark Collett: Well, that is an interesting point.

 

And ultimately I’ve said this on many streams, but we are in a situation where that is the only way that you can keep America off your back. That’s the only reason North Korea didn’t fall. It’s the only reason Russia probably hasn’t been invaded or struck by the Americans. I think if Russia didn’t have nukes, undoubtedly America would have attacked them.

 

But despite them not having nukes, I will say this. I think the Iranians retaliatory strikes have been extremely impressive! But amongst those retaliatory strikes, it is noted that, because when this all started, I was thinking:

 

“Why are they bombing refineries? Why are they attacking refineries in other Arab nations? Surely that’s going to annoy potential allies. Why would they do such a thing? You know, we don’t do that, guys, because if you do, you’re going to end up being a pariah state and you know, your next door neighbours aren’t going to want to essentially work with you.”

 

And then the other day it comes out that effectively what you’re seeing here is not Iran striking these oil refineries, but the strikes on the oil refineries have been carried out by Israel!

 

So what do you think to Iran’s actual retaliation and what do you think of Israel’s rather underhanded attacks? Because, and this isn’t just theory crafting. We’ve actually seen over the last, 24 hours scores of Mossad agents being arrested around the Middle East for being involved in false flag operations in numerous Middle Eastern nations.

 

And of course, this is something that we all know happens. This is something that we all are completely aware of you know, we know that Israel is regularly involved in sort of false flag events. This is something that has happened many, many times in the past.

 

And I think it’s interesting that this is being exposed. So we’ve had the USS Liberty, [we’ve had 9/11] we’ve had bombings in the Middle East. We’ve had potential or we’ve had sort of “terror attacks” in inverted commas in numerous countries which have turned out to be the work of Israeli agents. And we’re seeing that again now.

 

So I think Iran has performed far more ably than people might have thought. Sadly, they don’t seem to be winning this. Their navy seems to be taking major hits.

 

But some of these retaliatory strikes are looking questionable, are actually the work of Israel.

 

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Yuro: Well, supposedly, I mean, who’s to say that the attack on our base in Cyprus was actually carried out by Iran? Because didn’t Keir Starmer say:

 

“Oh, we won’t actually engage in hostile actions, we’ll only defend Israel with our planes!”

 

Which is, of course, kind of a schizophrenic point of view in the first place. But then all of a sudden:

 

“Oh, look, our base in Cyprus is attacked and now we can kind of get in fully without restriction.”

 

Natty: So that’s a good point. I mean, we can talk about RAF Akrotiri, but if you look at where Cyprus is on a map, any Iranian weapons, munitions, whether it’s drones or missiles or whatever, have to fly over, like directly over Israel. So there’s speculation it was like Hezbollah or possibly someone else or even maybe a, like an Israeli false flag, which is certainly possible. And who can say?

 

But it does seem like the refineries in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are Mossad operations to blow them up. With the point being to try and engage those countries on behalf of Israel to come into the war on behalf of Israel and do what they can or do more for Israel.

 

But coming back to your point, Mark, about the strikes that Iran have carried out, it’s not clear to me that they’re losing. I mean, you say it seems they’re losing. I’m not sure that’s totally true. And we spoke about this before I think a few months back on the Nationalist A-Team, where I think they’re doing much more, they’re doing a much more capable job than anyone except expected them to in the sensibility and where they’re striking.

 

So they’re hitting US bases in these Gulf oil states, you know, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And they’re forcing the Americans to retreat, which stretches their logistic lines. And like we said earlier, they may have fomented an uprising in Bahrain and they’re making these Arab states which have been paid off or controlled by Israel in some way unstable and shaky. And the Israeli installed governments and monarchs and regimes in these countries are looking incredibly shaky or shaky as you’ve just put in the chat, that you’re on shaky ground. And hitting Dubai, well, that’s just popular with everyone in the entire world. So what do you say about that?

 

Yuro: It’s kind of, it’s almost like their own kind of Samson Option, except inherently justified and not evil because they’re only going after the American bases and the people supporting the Americans and the Israelis.

 

But you know, they’ve said:

 

“If we’re attacked from here. We’re going to take this, and just kind of everything in the region, every American base.”

 

And it’s entirely justified because these countries can’t claim to be not involved:

 

“Oh yes, we’re not involved in this. We just have a base where your enemy is launching attacks on you, but we’re not involved!”

 

And then the moment Iran says:

 

“Okay, well we’re not going to attack you, we’re not going to attack your people, but we’ll take out that base.”

 

And then say Saudi Arabia:

 

“So we’re under attack, we’re being attacked.”

 

Well, no!

 

Natty: That’s American soil. That’s American soil there buddy! A totally legitimate target by anyone’s standards.

 

Yuro: I mean, it seems like Iran is taking a kind of “tank and turtle” strategy. You know, it’s like when you play a, like a strategy game and you can put a lot into units or you can just build up your base and wait for them to come to you. And it can be risky because there’s a possibility that you get overwhelmed.

 

But if you’re turtle enough you can withstand that storm and then you can turn around.

 

Mark Collett: Is Yuro the tank or the turtle? That’s the question. [chuckling]

 

Natty: Depends what he’s had to eat. [chuckling]

 

Yuro: Turtling and tanking, kind of the same thing.

 

Natty: But I think like Iran by its like geography is kind of is able to naturally turtle and the fact is that there’s so many assets that America have placed around it and like the jewpedo regime have around it. And the fact that Israel is within striking distance means it can strike effectively. And America is very powerful and has a very powerful military, but that military still has logistical concerns and still has aircraft carriers that are clogged [chuckling] with like fat Mexican sailors poo!

 

Yuro: American aircraft carriers are as full of shit as Donald Trump!

 

Natty: Well, [chuckling] yeah, agreed.

 

Mark Collett: Well that’s the thing. Look, I mean, we haven’t seen an aircraft carrier at the bottom of the Persian Gulf yet, have we? Now you might be saying:

 

“Oh well, Mark, that’s a big ask.”

 

Because Obviously, if that happened, we would actually probably see the beginning of World War III! Because at that point, I think Trump would have to put boots on the ground. It actually might be the end of him. You know, it’d be one of the other, wouldn’t it? He’d either have to put boots on the ground or it’d be the end of him. But we are yet to see an aircraft carrier effectively being scrapped.

 

Now, that doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything in retaliation, but they’re not hitting the big targets. And look, we’ve had American commentators, some of these American commentators that do these sort of big takes on these things. You hear them talking about this Axis of Resistance and saying:

 

“Oh the time will come when these hypersonic missiles are going to be putting aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Persian Gulf!”

 

We yet to see that, are we? I mean, we’re also yet to see any of these sort of hypersonic super weapons take out leading members of the Israeli government or the Israeli regime. You know, I know Yuro doesn’t like the word “regime”, which we keep using, but that is an interesting point. We haven’t seen Israel struck. Israel has been proved to be not invincible, I think it’s fair to say that. But we haven’t seen the Israeli government reeling in the same way that the Iranian government has.

 

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Yuro: Well, there’s a couple of points to make here. First off, with regards to the aircraft carriers, the American Navy has been keeping the aircraft carriers at a much greater range than they would normally use them to attack somebody because they are scared of those missiles. And the Iranians have launched small salvos of kind of like four missiles at time at them and got them to basically back off and back off to a greater distance, which means they can do much fewer kind of bombing runs at once and they have more fuel requirements and greater maintenance on the planes. So it is diminishing America’s capability to attack.

 

There was also satellite footage, I think, from a Chinese satellite that showed a fire on one of the destroyers in one of the aircraft carriers escorts. So potentially that was hit by Iranian missiles and although not sunk, caught fire. So they’re keeping them at bay. The Americans know if they get any closer, they will be hit.

 

And with regards to the missiles that they’re firing, it seems like they’ve used a lot of their kind of crappier munitions and their older munitions, like everything they’ve been launching at the other Gulf states is short range ballistic missiles that don’t have the range to go anywhere else. So they might as well use them on these targets. And they’ve been using up these older, less advanced munitions and drones and still still getting so many interceptors wasted before they actually bring out the big guns. And we’ve seen within the past day or two they’re starting to launch these missiles. I can’t remember the name of them, but they’re like a very large cluster munition that drops about 60 different submunitions on the way down and they’re dropping those on Israel.

 

And as I said in the very beginning, we just don’t know how much is actually getting through and how much damage they’re actually doing because it’s censored and covered up.

 

Natty: Yeah, we did touch on this and like you said, like an interceptor system, like a THAAD or like a Patriot battery or whatever, costs like in the millions, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’re being used up [chuckling] like drones with lawnmower engines and like a few kilogram warheads. And Iran’s just like churning these things out, like churning them out and churning them out and they’re still intact and they’re at some point America is going to run out of interceptors.

 

And I don’t know if you saw this, but the pedojew regime in America like called its defense manufacturers, heads of its defense manufacturing industry in for like an emergency meeting to say:

 

“We need more missiles! We need more stuff like come on, make it happen!”

 

But I was listening to something earlier saying this is very well demanding that, but there’s a lot of a very expensive gear that goes into this stuff, like certain gases and certain rare earth elements and guidance systems and radio radar systems and optics and all the rest of it that has to go into this missile production.

 

Meanwhile, you know, Iran can get like a cheap [chuckling] Chinese lawnmower engine, stick it in a, like a fiberglass Shahed drone shell, put a bit of explosive on the tip of it and just launch it wherever it runs, you know, within a few hundred mile radius, which is enough to cover the Gulf states and Strait of Hormuz and all this oil production that Europe relies on and lots of other people rely on and it’s going to destabilise all these countries that surround it.

 

Yuro: There’s a psychological aspect of them just doing the drip, drip, drip, dropping wave after wave of missiles on the Israelis, that’s definitely going to be wearing the Israelis down.

 

And also let’s say they absolutely opened up and dropped every missile that they had on Tel Aviv and the surrounding areas. Well in that situation the Israelis would come out and enact the Samson Option, wouldn’t they? And just you know, destroy them with their own nuclear weapons so that obviously they’re not going to feel like they can just drop everything on them at once because they don’t want to force them into that corner where they say:

 

“All right, well we’re doomed anyway!”

 

Natty: Well the other thing to remember is for Iran, the people in Iran and the government in Iran understands this is like a fight for survival. Like I said earlier, if they lose now, if they fail in this defense of their nation, they turn into a failed state. Israel has free reign and MI6 and the CIA have free reign to just fund all sorts of horrible like disgusting groups like ISIS and like the Kurds and everyone else to come and storm their country and make it into a living hellhole, just like they’ve done with Syria and Iraq and Libya.

 

So they understand this is a fight for their survival. So they’ve got to bend their entire will to doing this. Israel and America can stop anytime and can be forced to their knees if their civilian populations demand it. You know dropping cluster munitions on Tel Aviv is like a terror tactic. Well I mean “terror” in like air quotes, right? But at some point the Israeli people, the jews in Israel were going to have had enough of air raid sirens and cluster munitions raining on their heads and could be going to demand that it ends one way or another.

 

And this is what happened in the 12 Day War. I mean if you listen to shills and like pedojew media you would think that Iran lost a 12 day war, but it was Israel who cried off, who’d taken enough punishment from everything I can see. And it’s only a matter of time. I mean if Iran can sustain what it’s doing the Iron Dome is not stopping a giant like cluster warhead that like you said drops 60 submunitions on the city in a suburb somewhere, they’re going to cry uncle and they’re going to bend the knee to Iran.

 

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Meanwhile Iran can’t stop and it simply can’t otherwise it fails. And I’m sure almost everyone in the country understands that.

 

Yuro: This is like a boxing match where the other side controls the bell. You know, you’ve got Mike Tyson there and he’s got the bell. He chooses when the match ends. You don’t want to give it everything you’ve got and gas out too early because it might go on another five minutes.

 

So they are happy to let this draw out. And everything that the Americans and the Israelis has done has all been about, let’s go in there with the alpha strike, let’s drop as much on them as we can, let’s take out this, let’s take out that, and then we’ll just walk away and say:

 

“Mission successful, we can walk away now.”

 

And the Iranians are like:

 

“No, we’re not surrendering! We’re going to keep on fighting!”

 

Because as time continues it gets more and more in their favour. What they don’t want to do is say:

 

“Right let’s have a ceasefire!”

 

And three months, six months down the line, it starts all over again. They’re better off just continuing it now.

 

Natty: Yeah, I agree with that.

 

I mean, this is, like I said, this is a long, long time in the making. This is a long term plan of Israel’s to destroy and destabilise Iran. So if there’s ever, if there’s a ceasefire, if this stops, it’s going to be back on again at some point. And in the same way that a Gaza ceasefire isn’t really a ceasefire and at some point Israel is going to move on Gaza again and try and wipe those people out. So I think the Iranians understand that. Well, hopefully they understand that.

 

So we’ll see what happens.

 

Mark Collett: Well, it is interesting because they haven’t begged, have they haven’t begged and they haven’t cucked! I think they know there is no negotiations. That’s one of the big problems earlier that we talked about though. You know, when you make it so negotiation is meaningless, you essentially do put people with their backs to the wall. You know, if you’ve got a guy, you know, stood in his house with a pistol and the police are like:

 

“Look, let’s negotiate.”

 

But you know that when the police come through that door, they’re going to shoot you no matter what. At that point, what are you going to do? Is it going to be fight to the death, blaze of glory time, or is it going to be:

 

“Well, I’ll spend 12 hours negotiating only to be shot in the head anyway.”

 

At that point, you are creating an interesting sort of situation where fundamentally the American word is good for nothing! And the only answer is to fight to the death. And look, you know, without going into World War II, many, many Germans surrendered in good faith, believing that they were going to be treated like human beings, that they were going to be treated honourably, that surrendering to the Americans would be the right thing, that they would go home, that they would be treated as prisoners of war. And then they were brutalised and starved to death. I mean, surrendering to America is often, …

 

Natty: Or sent to Russia as slaves.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Natty: Even starved on the banks of the Rhine or sent to Russia as slaves. Yeah, you shouldn’t imagine that you’re going to be treated fairly if you surrender to these people. They’ve shown, as we discussed earlier, they’ve shown that they’ve got no honour. They’ve shown that they’re dishonourable people and they don’t treat civilians well. Those are the lessons that should be taken from this.

 

Yuro: They protest for their right to rape captives. When their own people have been caught on video, you know, sodomizing prisoners like Gazans that they’ve captured, they protest. And they don’t say it didn’t happen

 

Natty: Out in the street.

 

Yuro: Yeah, they said they turn out in the street to protest and say:

 

“We should be allowed to sodomize them!”

 

Is there any other country in the world where you would get that?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I think one of the interesting things about Trump, and this is sort of just one of my sort of notes on this, is that Trump came in as this “art of the deal”, wanting to put world peace on the table, get America out of the foreign wars that have dogged it for some time. And essentially what we’ve actually seen is quite the opposite. Trump actually does seem to be. And this isn’t meant to be a compliment, by the way, but it probably comes off as a little bit of a compliment. But he does seem to be sort of the ultimate ZOG warlord, doesn’t he? Trump as a guy, as a mad sort of emperor stood, you know, addressing his troops does seem to be a role that he slips into far more easily and readily than the role of peacemaker.

 

Now, I’ve seen him in these interviews. I’ve seen him talking about future operations. I’ve seen the way he really does love having this power and being able to tell other nations to bow to him or else. And that’s what he’s saying, really, with Iran:

 

“You’ll do what I say or I’m going to completely raze you to the ground!”

 

Now saying that, do you think there has ever been a more philo-semitic president? And following this, do you think this will change the way Americans vote in the future?

 

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Natty: I doubt it. And there may have been more philo-semitic presidents, but certainly not in our time, or I mean, our time is in a time when I’ve been a, like an adult. I think I was 12 at the time when the first Gulf War started, when Bush rolled into Iraq and dragged Blair in and dragged the rest of the British people in. But it’s hard to imagine a more philo-semitic president.

 

And I think part of the problem is. Well, maybe it’s not a problem for them, although it might turn out to be, who knows, depending on how this thing goes, is that more and more people were just nakedly seeing it as that it’s like, why, what possible reason could the American people, like the people in America have for engaging in this terminal war with Iran? What possible cause do the British people have against the people of Iran? You know, flimsy excuses like:

 

“Oh, they’re a terrorist nation and you know, they might at some point have a nuke!”

 

This just doesn’t cut it. This isn’t a reason that sensible people would launch wars against people and go on these destructive campaigns against people.

 

Yuro: Sunni Pakistanis rape children. So we need to fight against them

 

Natty: Yeah:

 

“We need to fight a Shia country, a Persian Shia country!”

 

Yeah, absolute lunacy! But people, I think people genuinely understand more now. But this is just jews! This is a war for jews. It’s a war for Israel. And Trump is like deeply, deeply friends with the jewish paedophile who was the mover and shaker for the evil jewish paedophile regime. This is their guy. You know, he is their guy and he’s the guy who’s going to see this done. Not for you, not for your family, not for the American infrastructure, not for the home country and what it means for the future of America, but for Israel and for his jewish handlers. And people, I think, understand that. More and more people understand that, which is why this war is so unpopular.

 

Yuro: We see more and more people waking up to jewish power every day. And in America, I mean, you see mainstream Leftists like Ana Kasparian from the young Turks goes out and just says:

 

“The goyim are waking up! Deal with it!”

 

And that’s amazing to see and it’s a great thing! But at the end of the day there’s no one for them to vote for. The two party system in America is so entrenched, they’re not going to have that option anytime soon to actually get out of it. I mean you’re just going to have a continuation of the same thing where you have presidents get elected and have lower and lower approval ratings, but the people just won’t believe it.

 

Natty: And that’s like you said, no other choice. And I’ll remind, you know, Mark was saying that President Trump ran on like a “no foreign intervention, no foreign wars” ticket. Certainly in 2016 he did. But every president has done that and most of the prime ministers and most of the regimes in this country have run on the same kind of, “we’re not for foreign wars”!

 

And yet every time there’s a foreign war on behalf of Israel and the jews, these people snap to. And all of a sudden it’s:

 

“Well, this war is justified. And this is a terrorist regime and Syria used Sarin gas on its people and Iran is a terrorist state and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

So these people know that foreign wars aren’t popular and you know, foreign wars within justifications, but foreign wars where there is literally no justification apart from the jews want us to do this, are extremely unpopular! And burn through the veil that these people use to hide what they do and kind of hide the levers they pull in order to get what they want.

 

Mark Collett: That’s very interesting. And I do concur. I don’t think there is anyone else to vote for. But I’m not really here to correct anyone tonight. I think everyone’s made excellent points, but you are actually wrong that it was just, 2016. There are pictures floating around that I’ve actually shared showing with Trump and Vance stood together and it’s the kind of text around them is “the peace ticket”, you know, saying:

 

“You’re voting first, you’re voting for peace!”

 

This is what they ran on this time as well. And Trump did make these huge sort of overtures to the Nobel Committee, that he wanted the Nobel Prize Peace Prize, that he was going to stop these wars, which obviously he hasn’t done.

 

Natty: I think I’m probably guilty of paying less attention to the Trump campaign in 2022, [chuckling] when it was in 2016. But, yeah, I can well believe it. And I’ve heard, I’ve seen that in headlines, quoted for the peace ticket. And Trump lambasting Obama on Twitter at the time, saying:

 

“Oh, Obama’s going to start a war in Iran because he’s such a terrible negotiator and he sucks at being a peaceful president.”

 

And it’s like, yeah so many years later, you’re the guy. You’re the guy these people have activated to get this done.

 

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Mark Collett: Well, indeed. And the next point, because we’re sort of getting towards what do we think’s going to happen?

 

But before we do that, I think one of the interesting things about this is we’ve seen, so there are a lot of, what can I call them, “Shitbag influencers” like Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil. I despise Andrew Neil! Fat, worthless toad! The day he has sort of a gigantic Coronary as he sat eating his sort of duck pate on his terrace in the south of France will be a good day for the world! That guy is always on the wrong side of everything. He wants to attack Iran, wanted all the Covid restrictions. I can’t remember him ever saying anything good. He is scum of the earth!

 

But on the other side, we have seen this in interesting bipartisan pushback. We’ve seen Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Ana Kasparian. There has been this mass awakening to Israel! I mean, Tucker Carlson stood in front of Turning Point USA getting a standing ovation for saying:

 

“Israel needs to get out of American politics!”

 

That is seismic. You know, he is still the biggest American political voice in terms of being an influencer. I think this is incredible!

 

Now, I was somebody that was quite happy for Trump to get in for a couple of reasons, but one of the reasons being that I believed that this would bring things to a head. I believe that the Trump regime would be the regime that accelerated things to a point where numerous people who had previously been extremely philo-semitic would end up coming out, breaking ranks, and there would be a mainstream acceptance of our points. I remember saying that, actually I was briefly invited on WarStrike, of all streams, the night of the election.

 

And I was like:

 

“Look, this isn’t a bad thing! Don’t have a cow over this basically. This is something that may well bring us certain benefits.”

 

And I think that we are sort of seeing this to a large degree now. What do you guys think about this? Because I can’t really remember the last time we’ve actually seen a such a bipartisan move against Israel. And it’s not just the ones I’ve mentioned. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been incredible! Tucker Carlson’s leading the charge with young Right-wing males and females. Turning Point USA, which used to be absolutely ZOGged, is now a hive of like counter-semitism, if you like.

 

And on top of all of that, having the absolutely delightful and wife ready material known as Ana Kasparian.

 

Yuro: She’s absolutely perfect! [chuckling] Coming out for me!

 

Mark Collett: What? What did you say Yuro?

 

Natty: What did you say?

 

Yuro: It’s a bit brown for me.