Thomas Sewell: Alrighty, we’re live. Max volume, everything. Audio input, capture.

 

All right, testing, 1, 2, 3. Use my big boy voice. Volume’s low. What’s your problem? I actually found a setting. Everyone’s like, Tom, fix your settings. We’re going 150%. There we go. Alrighty. Alrighty. Testing, testing!

 

All right, obligatory, free Joel Davis! Free Brandon [Koschel]! Free Jim Roberts!

 

So I’m going to cover a few subjects today, as you expect, with a solo stream. I really enjoyed my most recent stream with James Mason. It was like a five hour don’t Fed post challenge hard. He Fed posted a couple times, but as you’d expect. But I reviewed it and it wouldn’t breach. It wouldn’t breach even the most ridiculous laws we have here in Australia.

 

Now, one thing that I need to correct from the stream is I think I said that the book Siege is in a grey area of the law. My lawyer has told me that it is potentially banned. So he was like, it’s kind of in a dark grey area of the law. It’s not 100% banned. There is a banned list of books in Australia and Siege isn’t on it. But I cannot encourage anyone to go and buy that book because they haven’t made the case yet.

 

But what he suggests is that they’re trying to make the case. So I’d be very careful with that book in Australia. That’s one thing I want to clarify. Yeah, I think Mason gave a pretty sound explanation of what his intention of the book is. And I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any negative press because I know the journalists will watch a stream like that and get their AI ready to write an article for them about how evil we all are. But, yeah, that hasn’t happened.

 

But I do want to give people caution here in Australia that, yeah, I’m not encouraging you on legal grounds. I’m not encouraging you to read the book.

 

And I think all I said in the stream was that I did read it back in 2019 after being bullied by Jacob Hersant into reading it. I originally didn’t read it because I thought it was what everyone says it is. And I was like:

 

“I’m not really interested in that. I know enough about X, Y and Z through reading army manuals when I was in the army, so I don’t feel the need to read something of that nature.”

 

And then Jacob was like:

 

“No, it’s. That’s not what it’s about at all! There’s like some contentious lines in it. But overall, that’s not what it says.”

 

And Mason clarified that on stream. And I do appreciate him doing that because I think siege culture and accelerationist culture is really misunderstood. You know, accelerationism as a concept is, and siege as a concept is really misunderstood. And you’ll notice when I said to Mason about how our strategy has been to do the maximal amount of work with the minimal amount of damage, you’ll notice he was nodding the most. Mason’s not advocating for anyone to be an idiot and go to jail. He’s actually advocating the opposite. He’s saying:

 

“Do as much as you can to the integrity of the system without ruining your life!”

 

And he is proof that he’s done 60 years in the struggle. 60 years of inspiring people to be like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this system is evil and corrupt and contributing to it and trying to seek entry into it in hopes to change it is not an effective strategy.”

 

And he’s always been an advocate of the opposite. To siege it, to besiege it, to starve it. And yeah there’s no point, you know, running at it, doing a hero run, you know, charging at the castle walls, you’re just going to get pinged by some dude with an arrow. You’ve got to just wait it out, you’ve got to siege it, not wait it out and do nothing. But there’s a lot of things you can do while besieging an enemy.

 

And so people have to think creatively about what that means. And not but again, all politics, all politics, when it is in its infancy, attracts radical people. And radical people are more prone to self destructive behaviour. And so you want to have people that are courageous, you want to have courageous men, you want to have courageous leaders. And courageous does not mean foolish!

 

And so you do have to balance the concepts of bravery and courage with patience. And there’s a lot of virtue, a lot of virtue in having the strength to put yourself against a system that’s destroying you without becoming a martyr, you know, without letting the system destroy you. Now if you step over that line and the system puts you in jail for life or you get assassinated, like George Lincoln Rockwell.

 

I mean, Matt Hale, for example, who was involved, my understanding, with the creativity movement, he wasn’t the founder, but he was like the young hotshot that was rising up. And I think he’s in jail for life. I think he gets out of jail in about 10 years time from now. And he’s been in jail for like 20 years. Guys like Matt Howell, for example, just got really unlucky. They got. He got really unlucky and he got caught up in something that he hadn’t. I’ve looked at the case, I’ve looked at the case, the facts of the case, and the guy hasn’t done anything wrong. They could just. He was just a serious threat to the system and something like that could happen to me. But God willing, I’m safe from that level of corruption!

 

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And I think it might be good luck, it might just be good luck! It might be destiny. But you don’t, what is it? You don’t count your chickens until they come home to roost or something? It’s still early days. It’s very early days. I’m still a young man. I might be bald, but I’m young and fit.

 

So, yeah, it’s, I’m 33 years old this year as of this month. And yeah, there’s a lot of struggle to go.

 

Just open with that if you haven’t checked it out, don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s five hours. It is broken down into separate conversations. There’s an hour and then there’s a break and then there was meant to be an another hour and a break. But it, the first hour, the first two hours is very consumable for most people.

 

And then obviously, if you’re really into this stuff and you go for long drives and, or you work a job where you can have a, your headphones in a lot of tradies and stuff. Tell me that they like the five hour streams. Don’t be intimidated by having these really long streams. They appreciate, they appreciate the dialogue.

 

So as long as not too often. I don’t think you should listen to streams every day and I don’t think you should listen to music every day. I have been doing a fair bit of community service. I got to do knitting, as you’re all aware, and I advise people not to, I listen to music sometimes the whole time, or a podcast or an audio book. Books are probably the best thing. Books are better than streams because books, streams and dialogue and conversations aren’t as sharp. There’s no way I can communicate with you as clearly and as sharply as, say, reading Mein Kampf on audiobook. It’s not possible because of all the jargon. Those are the clearest thoughts possible. And then they go through an editing process.

 

So where are we? So already in the chat. Already in the chat! They’re arguing about Christianity already. Instantly! It’s incredible! Christianity will come up in this stream. When we talk about Manosphere, we’re going to cover feminism in general. We’re going to talk about all this girl bossing that’s going on at the moment with the Evangelicals. And there’s some heinous stuff that I’ve seen on Twitter where these little soy boy freaks are marrying these goblina jewesses with like 100 body counts. And they’re just saying:

 

“But she’s saved by Christ!”

 

And so it will come up. The conversation will come up. When we’re talking about that. There is definitely part one of this stream. What I’m going to open with is I’ll just. People still saying the volume’s low. Let me just unmute myself. Hold on. Now we’re. I could put up 175. I’ll just go 200. I’ll go 200. Okay. People still complaining. 200%. 200% Audio input, capture, volume. And the mic is like an inch from my face, maybe two. Two inches. Audio input, capture. I’ll put this one at 150. Alrighty. How does that sound? Testing for the last time. Testing. Yeah, fair enough. It is pretty quiet. Yeah, there’s a lot of retards in the chat today. Classic. Everyone’s spurging out. Yeah, that does sound better.

 

All right, sweet. Everyone’s arguing over which strain of Christianity. It’s incredible! It’s incredible! It’s endless. It’s endless, isn’t it? It never ends. It never ends.

 

So to start with the Aboriginal question. So obviously we are still what I am, and I have friends and we are trying to get a political party on the table here in Australia. And so covering the Aboriginal question, and you could call it the woman question, is really important. And it has to be done in a way that’s legal because of these laws here in Australia. And it has to be done in a way that people can understand the values and the rhetoric without getting caught up in the emotional arguments. So one has to be cautious when they approach these two topics. So you might find my speech slightly more refined than normal.

 

Hitler won the female vote in Germany. He actually had more women vote for him than men. And that’s a really interesting phenomenon to consider that more women voted for Hitler than men.

 

And so it shows that women don’t have to necessarily like you in order to respect you and I think that’s an important dynamic. A lot of people have commented, including Mason, about how journalists have behaved, female journalists specifically have behaved when interviewing me. And I saw someone online describe it as “negative tingles”, that they’re not used to someone outside the court giving them negative tingles. Normally it’s boring. Normally their job is boring. And then to have someone that’s got an intense character and an intense personality, it hits the dopamine receptors differently. And I’ve seen grandmas on Facebook comment sections in replies to these interviews saying, “hail Australia”. And all the criticism and all the advice people try to give us over the years is all wrong. It’s all backwards. It’s actually all the other way around. The female question is the opposite of the current orthodoxy, the current belief system of how women should be treated and how politics affects women. It’s all wrong. It’s all an inversion of the truth!

 

The truth is that it comes down to respect! And they respect integrity, not niceties! They don’t respect niceties, they respect integrity. And they respect aggression as long as it’s a as long as it’s not a foolish, foaming at the mouth, barbaric aggression. They don’t have much respect for that, but they almost respect that more and get better tingles from that than Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese. These characters provide no stimulation to the female political psyche. And so understanding how to win the woman vote, you’re not going to win it with outright misogyny. That’s obviously ridiculous! This idea of just be a prick and you’ll get voted in. That’s not what I’m articulating.

 

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What I’m saying is that people should not continue to spread the lie and demoralisation within our broader scene, our broader movement and political parties in the West, that the way to win the woman vote is to pander to them. That’s really what this comes down to, is the pandering.

 

So that’s a subject on its own that I’ll cover. So that’s what you got to look forward to.

 

But first we’re going to talk about the Aboriginal question and specific. We’ve talked about both these questions a lot, but the reason why it’s come up again is I’ve had a lot of people in person and online message me saying:

 

“Why is our strategy to go to war with Aboriginals? Won’t we win more votes and won’t we do better in Parliament and won’t our message be more well received if we don’t go to war?”

 

These are their words, not mine, with Aboriginals. And my position is not that we’re going to war with Aboriginals.

 

And obviously the Camp Sovereignty situation has played a part in this dialogue because people think that the reason why there’s allegedly an incident on that hill was because of the Aboriginal question. And it’s completely it’s not irrelevant. It’s not irrelevant, but people are conflating and the media has done this. The media has purposefully misled people and made a significant portion of people that support us question their support on the basis of:

 

“Well, why would they attack innocent elderly Aboriginal women?”

 

And most people can see through it. But there is a portion of our supporters that are like:

 

“Oh, I don’t think that was a good move. You probably shouldn’t have attacked innocent elderly Aboriginal women.”

 

And it’s, well, one, that didn’t happen and two, the conflict., … And this is the position that interestingly, a lot of Aboriginals actually share, not all, but a lot, is that the issue is these White traitors.

 

And so if these White traitors didn’t behave the way they did, there wouldn’t be as much conflict between the Whites and the Aboriginals. And you’ll find there’s a lot of, probably a higher percentage of Aboriginal DNA Aboriginals that aren’t supportive of multiculturalism. And there is, the Left call it like an Uncle Tom syndrome, obviously. But my position has always been towards all races that it’s about respect. And it’s a zero sum game a lot of the time regarding resources and living space. That’s zero sum.

 

And so there’s going to have to be compromise or there’s going to be if there’s not some sort of what I’ve always said about the question of re-migration is people bring up the Aboriginals, whenever you talk about re-migration they say:

 

“Oh, but what about the Aboriginals? They were here before you!”

 

So because of that, they’re in their own select category. And what I’ve been trying to explain to people online is that Aboriginals have a choice. And this is the sound bite and this is what you should be saying to if I know a lot of people have an Aboriginal friend, or a part Aboriginal friend, this is what you say to them:

 

“Our position is that you either have part sovereignty over the whole or over full sovereignty over the part. But you can’t have both.”

 

I’ll explain that again. The Aboriginal people can either have part sovereignty over all, or full sovereignty over part. They can’t have both! That’s not a compromise. That’s White genocide. So White people, Anglo, Celtic people predominantly have come to this continent because the continent wasn’t a country, or a nation, it was a continent. It’s a land mass. It’s an island, a big island.

 

But we’ve come to this place. There’s a whole bunch of warring Aboriginal tribes. Some are in cahoots and some aren’t in cahoots. Some have been here 10,000 years. Some have potentially been here 40,000 years. The numbers keep changing. But either way, we came here and we built something separate to them. We tried to include them. There’s a lot of interesting history from the first and Second Fleet and from Arthur and Bligh, Philip. There’s some interesting history where they’ve tried to integrate the Aboriginals and it’s almost always backfired horribly on both the Whites and on the Aboriginals.

 

And so when you look at and Auspill’s done a very good job at covering this, when there has been massacres of Aboriginals, so-called these genocides or massacres, it’s always come down to establishing the Anglo Saxon law on the land. It’s come down to:

 

“Hey, we want this land, we want this territory. We’re bigger and stronger than you. We’re not going to come after you, we’re not going to attack you. But we want this much space. And, it’s living space for Whites. Europe has to breathe out. We’re overcrowded in the streets of London. We’ve got this problem with criminals or petty criminality, people stealing Spoons and stuff. We’re running out of space. We found this place. We’re in a geopolitical issue with all these other people. We can’t explain this to you. We just need what we, what we need. And we’re prepared to fight for it! And your options are to fight us or to just keep moving deeper and deeper into the bush and away from this spot. It’s ours now. You’re not having it back.”

 

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And obviously anyone in their right mind would be pissed off by that. If some alien force came, you know, from space and did that to us right now and we had really little ability to fight back because they were so technologically advanced, we would rightfully be pissed off, wouldn’t we? But we would have to retreat into the bush, we would have to White flight. We would have to be like, this is too much. We have to consolidate what we’re doing.

 

And so this is beyond Good and Evil. This is a, this is Nietzschean in this concept. The Left try to put a moral framework on that and say:

 

“That’s wrong, that’s evil. And therefore we have to surrender Australia to everyone! We have to be cucks, we have to bend over and we have to let anyone come here and rape us because of this founding moment!”

 

Because White people equals bad as their moral framework. That is their entire moral framework. White people equals bad. And they’ve got this original sin concept:

 

“We’re bad people! We’re horrible people! We’re horrible, bad people!”

 

Now, obviously straight White men don’t think this way. The only people that think this way are people with slave morality, which is homosexuals, freaks, a lot of women unfortunately think this way:

 

“Oh, no, we’re horrible! What we’ve done is so horrible!”

 

You know, this kind of bleeding heart. Not all women, but it is a naturally, it is a feminine energy to put your empathy for others. Well, it’s not even a, it’s a distortion of feminine energy really.

 

But look, it appeals, it appeals to weak willed people. Masculine men don’t think like this. Testosterone doesn’t allow your brain to even go there. We’ve got a completely different philosophical structure, a completely different reality because we’ve got a solar morality. It really comes down to these simple principles. It’s not about good and evil, it’s about solar morality. It’s about, we are a life form, we must exist, we must continue to exist. We don’t have to be pricks about it, we don’t have to be cunts about it. But we’re not going to back down, we’re not going to surrender, we’re not going to roll over and die. And so how do we make this work?

 

And so obviously, while we’re in a nice friendly talking phase about it, I don’t have an issue with Aboriginal sovereignty. It’s not my issue. I don’t. Good on them, Good for them. That’s my position on the Aboriginals. Good for them! If they can have it, good on them.

 

But it’s got nothing to do with me. I’m not paying for it, I’m not engaged in it, I’m not involved in it. It’s not in my face, it’s not in my place, it’s not in my space. It’s in their space. Now that is the problem! That is the problem is that multiculturalism is forcing all these radically different people to live together. And we’re not meant to live that is going to be the death of us. It’s going to be the death of our culture.

 

Now these people, they have a flag, they have a tribe, they have an identity. They’re trying to rebuild their culture. Good on them. My opinion, and I think the opinion of most Aboriginals and most White people is that they should do it on their own! I think they’ve had enough help. We’ve done enough to help them, more than enough to help them. It’s not our responsibility to help them any further.

 

What part of the land are they going to get? Well, that is the most serious conversation. But the philosophy behind that conversation I think is congruent. I think we can, I think all Australians can get on board with the idea that we have a two-state solution, at a minimum. To me, that’s the minimum. If they want to go to war with us, that’s a different conversation.

 

But I think you’ll find that there could be conversations where they have their own government, they have their own schools, they have their own institutions. Are they going to be as good as ours? No, they’re not. Is that going to cause the bleeding hearts to be like:

 

“See we’re still continuing to oppress them by keeping them separate!”

 

And there’ll be an anti-apartheid argument, but apartheid is the most beneficial thing for both parties. Because they will never have dignity, they will never have sovereignty and they will never have dignity while we play this passive aggressive game where they’re trying to rule over us and we’re trying to say we’re all friends, Kumbaya. That is never, while both of us are actually suffering. So I’ve said in the past things like if they want to, if they want to fight, they might get deported too. They’ll get deported back to India. They walked here 40,000 years ago. They might get told to walk back.

 

And I’ve said things like those are very strong comments and obviously a lot of Aboriginal people want to fight me because of those comments.

 

But that is my position. I’m not backing down on that. I’m never going to change my mind on that is my position. It’s a two-state solution or it’s that because we cannot continue. And when we take power in this country, and we are going to take power in this country, we are going to solve this question and we are going to say:

 

“Let’s sit down, let’s draw up the map and here is a fundamental treaty of you will not let China put bases on your land, you will not let any foreigners put bases on your land, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Like there will be a treaty that will say:

 

“You are a vassal of our realm. This is Australdom, this is our realm, you’re a vassal, you’ve got a territory, you self govern it.”

 

Whether we trade or buy or sell or communicate with each other, whether there’s tourist visas, all this is downstream. We can work something out where they can come visit us and we can go visit them.

 

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The bleeding hearts can go live with the Aboriginals. But you will not put Chinese bases on it. Like this is fortress Australia. We’re not going to tolerate it and you guys can police yourselves. You can have your own laws, you can have your own courts, you can have your own koori justice and your own jails and your own prisons, and all the complaints that they have all solved overnight. All solved overnight. We have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with it. We have no part of it! You want to go spear each other, that’s your culture. That we’re not going to intervene. And that is the absolute best outcome for everyone involved! That it’s the best compromise for us. Certainly it’s the best compromise. Is it perfect? Is it ideal? Can we purity spiral and get a better result? Sure, absolutely!

 

Is that feasible? Of course, anything is feasible if you put your mind to it. Is that how the Australian public feel? No, the Australian public don’t feel that there could be something more than that. There might be people that want to do more than that and go further, certainly. And that ethnic tension arises from living together. But I think once you find, once you take that step in that direction, I think you will find that tension will disappear.

 

So when people say to me:

 

“Tom you know why are we doing this? Anti Aboriginal rhetoric and da, da and we should try to win the Aboriginals over and we should., …”

 

The way they’re talking is they’re treating Aboriginals the same way. They’re like:

 

“We should try to win women over. We should try to win!”

 

It’s kind of similar to attitude. It’s like that’s not how it works. You don’t win Aboriginals over by pandering to them. You don’t win women over by pandering to them. I know they’re two very different biological forms. You know, obviously one is male and female. One is just female. You know, when we’re talking about women, we’re talking about White women, obviously. And I’m not making any further comparisons in that regard.

 

But if you understand, what I’m saying is the politics of the White man, the politics of the White Patriarchy, is not about pandering! Our politics is about laying down the law, explaining what we’re going to do and why we’re going to do it and how we’re going to do it. And then saying:

 

“This is the best outcome for everyone. What we’re doing right now is not working and we’re not making any further compromises on that’s the line in the sand.”

 

We’re actually only going to go further than that, we’re not going to come any less than that.

 

There is never, in my opinion, there’s never going to be a time where I or the vast majority of White people in Australia are going to accept are our slow ethnic replacement. It might appear that way right now, but it’s only because we’re not politically organised. This is not how the average Australian feels. This is not how the average White person around the world feels. The average White person around the world wants re-migration. They want to remain, at a minimum, 90%. That’s like the beginning. That’s not even, like controversial anymore, that the 90% or the 95% rule. That is the super majority of the population. I just like deport all of them except the good ones. That’s the super majority. And then you’ve probably still got the majority saying:

 

“No, no, it shouldn’t be 90, it should be 99%.”

 

So, yeah, anyway, I’ll pause there. I won’t cover that subject much more. Oh, my God! There’s a sorry, there’s a spastic in the chat. How do I do ban this person for life? I don’t want to mute. I keep making this mistake. If I mute, then I can’t ban. Isn’t that right? Okay, that just deleted it. Oh, yeah. Also muting on Rumble because Odysee is different. Muting on Rumble is banning. Cool. Glad we got that sorted.

 

I’ll go through the comments section. If there’s any comments on the Aboriginal question. Geez, everyone’s just arguing about Christianity. We’re not even talking about Christianity. We’re just talking about Aboriginals at this stage.

 

So, yeah, in short, as I said before, tell your friends that say this nonsense to you about how we should work together:

 

“We all got to work together. We all got to work together.”

 

They can have full sovereignty over themselves, but not us. Or they can have this fake sovereignty over everyone. Do they actually want full sovereignty? If they do, it can only be over themselves. That means apartheid. Ultimately, that means apartheid. What that looks like is a man can’t serve the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag. You can’t go to a at the high school, at the courts, all these institutions. It’s got an Australian flag and it’s got an Aboriginal flag. That is not sustainable. It’s one or the other. It can’t be both.

 

And this idea of:

 

“Oh, we got to show solidarity and they’re not a threat to us and all this.”

 

It’s not sustainable. It’s not sustainable. It’s nice. Tingle feels. It feels really nice:

 

“Oh, look, I’m being empathetic. Oh, I’m a good person.”

 

You can have this virtue signaling, but we’re two very different peoples. We need to have sovereignty over ourselves. They need to have sovereignty over themselves. We need to be focused on Australia and White people and civilisation, the Western civilisation that we’re a part of, and they need to be focused on creating their own harmony, the dream time, their version of reality, fixing their problems, punishing their problems. They have a completely different version of reality to us. That is just how different ethnic groups and different races are built. They have different versions of reality. Things we see as a problem that they see it like a major problem, they see as a minor problem, and vice versa. Their biggest issue is White people are locking them up and putting them in jail. Like, they can’t even comprehend that our problem is that they’re committing heinous crimes. They can’t even comprehend that’s a problem. They see the problem as:

 

“Why are you locking us up?”

 

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It’s the same with the blacks in America. How can these two groups of people live together when they have completely different versions of reality? So they should police themselves. Simple as! Part sovereignty over all or full sovereignty over part.

 

So you can’t have both. Simple. As I’ll move on. Hopefully the comment section is not talking about Christianity, someone says:

 

“Do I make my own toothpaste?”

 

Very funny. Yeah. And this applies not just to Australia, this applies to obviously, Canada and New Zealand as well. I think the Treaty of Waitangi is a mistake in New Zealand. I don’t know too much about the treaties in Canada. I know Alex Ferryman does. Yeah, it’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Any treaty that exists needs to be a treaty of:

 

“Here’s your space. Here’s our space. You live there, we live here. You’re citizens of your country. We’re citizens of our country. We’re two separate nations. We’re not the same nation.”

 

They even call themselves the first nation so that by definition, they’re not part of our nation. They’re saying this. They’re saying this, not me. They are saying it. What else?

 

Let’s get into the nuts and bolts. The woman question. I need a need a breather. If we’re going to get into the woman question. I need a breather. Yeah. Someone says:

 

“Easiest solution is allow those same bleeding hearts to transfer their own funds to Aboriginals, not government or social funds. The Left can put their money where their mouth is.”

 

Yeah, absolutely! Well, I believe that all the bleeding hearts should go live with the Aboriginals. They should have Aboriginal citizenship. They want to be so bad. They hate White people so much. They hate being White!:

 

“White people are horrible, horrible people! And having White children is perpetuating White supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Good bye. Bye. See you later. Awesome! You know, we’ll strip all of these people of Australian citizenship when we come to power and there will be people that will say:

 

“Oh, my God, you can’t do that!”

 

Yes, we can and we will. They’re all going to get stripped of their Australian citizenship. These White people that work, that bow down and worship Aboriginals as their god. They can go live with their god. They can go live with their god. Simple. You know, you want to do the Welcome to Country acknowledgment of country, all this. Absolutely perfect! Perfect. Absolutely! Bye. Bye. Yeah, we don’t want those people living in our society. It doesn’t matter that they’re of the same blood as us. That doesn’t matter because they’re not of the same honour as us. They hate us! There are some sort of mutation of our bloodline that is antithetical to our existence. If Aboriginals didn’t exist, they would find some other group to nut hug. Hypothetically, because there’s no Aboriginals in England. Like you don’t see people advocating for the pre-Belgic-Celtic invasion of Bronze Age England. That doesn’t exist. You know, what kind of strain of Leftism would that be? You know, it’s obviously absurd because you’ve got a thousand years of homogeneity of many different layers of Celtic peoples then breeding in with many different layers of Germanic and Nordic peoples.

 

So it’s the English people, the British people are a relatively homogenised people. And so you don’t see that argument because those tribes can homogenise quite. I mean, obviously it still caused things like, I mean, I don’t want to get too much into the intricacies of English history, but you can see the precursor of things like civil war in previous ethnic distinctions.

 

So, for example, Croatia and Serbia are ethnically very similar, but they’re not ethnically the same. They are two different ethnicities and therefore they also have two different versions of their interpretation of Christianity. You’ve got Orthodoxy and you’ve got Catholicism. So ethnic differences play out also religiously and also politically. You’ll see this a lot through human history. You see it in the American Civil War. There was an ethnic difference in the American Civil War as well. Probably not as predominant, but I won’t go into it. Americans know that for themselves.

 

Now someone says:

 

“Tom’s right. They have a different reality. Go to any Northern Territory prison and you’ll see the system isn’t working.”

 

It’s not working by our standards. Absolutely! Our version, our reality of working and their version of working are two completely different things.

 

And I’ll finish it with this. I had a Dreamtime experience with Aboriginals. I’m sure I’ve told this story on stream years ago, so those that have been around a while will remember this story. But I had a friend in the army, a guy called Christopher Knight. He was a Special Forces guy. He’s a translator, he’s a linguist. And I don’t know what he’s doing now with his life, but I’m sure he’s doing well. And he was adopted. He got adopted in a cultural sense, or a linguistic sense by an Aboriginal. An Aboriginal tribe in Darwin in Northern Territory. And this guy was a, like one of those, what is called politician-linguist or something. This guy spoke like 50 languages. It was incredible! I’ve never seen anything like it. I mean, we would go out drinking in Mitchell street or whatever it’s called in the CBD of Darwin. It’s like one street and there’s like four bars on it. And any backpacker, he could speak their language. Any backpacker. It was really incredible!

 

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Anyway on his weekends, he was going out and living with Aboriginals out in the middle of nowhere. And there were like some, there were full bloods and it’s very rare to find full bloods, but in Northern Territory it’s more common. There’s no way you can find full bloods outside of Northern Territory or Northern New, Southern Queensland or Northern WA. And he started hanging out with these, basically semi-nude Aboriginals in the bushland near Casuarina Beach on the weekends. And he knocks on my door. I don’t know, it was like one in the morning, one random. It was like a Tuesday, or a Thursday. And he says:

 

“Hey Tom or hey Sewell.”

 

Everyone calls you by your last name in the army:

 

“Hey Sewelly, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. They need a linguist. He was a two commando guy, but for some reason he was in our battalion. And he says, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. I’m getting on a plane and I have to say goodbye to some people and I had to run some errands. Can you drive me?”

 

Because I was one of the only LID, which lid means new guy or live in digger. I was one of the only LID that had a car. And I was friendly with him, and everyone thought he was a weirdo and I did as well. Weird means different things to me than it does to other people. When someone says weird, they mean like not radioactive, but they mean, you know, semi-ostracized. They mean:

 

“Oh, we don’t associate with that guy because he’s a weirdo!”

 

Whereas when someone’s weird, I am fascinated by human psychology. And so I was always very friendly with him because I wanted to know what made him tick. He had such a different version of reality to everyone else that I just really wanted to understand. I mean this guy was probably in his early 30s and I think I was 19 or 20 at the time.

 

So I was like:

 

“Unk, how do you view the world? What’s going on, Unk?”

 

Basically I was the same relationship I have with Zoomers and is like that relationship when I was The Age that a lot of Zoomers are that asked me for advice And I’m now. I’m now 90.

 

But anyway, he says, he’s like:

 

“Sewelly, you’re the only one with a car. You know, can you drive me around? I gotta say goodbye to some people.”

 

And so he drives me out in the middle of nowhere, and then we go walking for like 40 minutes down this beach. And I’m like:

 

“What are we doing?”

 

And we find these Aboriginals just on this beach in the middle of nowhere. And they’re all sitting cross legged and around a little campfire. And he introduces me to them and he’s speaking their language, like full Aboriginal! Like whatever sect of Aboriginal they are. And he’s speaking their language. And he introduces me and he says a bunch of Aboriginal words.

 

And then he says my name. And then he says:

 

“5 RAR, 5th Battalion.”

 

And I was like:

 

“What did you say to them?”

 

And he said:

 

“You’re a young warrior from my tribe, from the 5th Battalion tribe. And that you’re a good warrior. You’re a good, young, strong warrior and that you’re helping me today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh.”

 

And then they all, like, acknowledged me. They’re all sitting different. So it was men. I was sitting with the men, obviously, and the women were sitting at a different campfire with the women, and it was segregated.

 

And so I was with the men and Knighty was explaining to them how I was a good warrior, a good young warrior of the 55 RAR tribe. And we’re sitting there and they’re just talking and talking, and I went into a trance. I was tired, but I didn’t know what was, … It was like someone had drugged me. I was in a trance and I was just staring at the ocean, because we’re on the beach. And I was staring at the ocean and the sky was purple.

 

And I was like:

 

“Is there something in this fireplace? Like, what? Like, am I on?”

 

I’ve never at this stage, I’d never tried any drug ever!

 

And I was like:

 

“Is this what acid feels like?”

 

That’s what I was thinking in my head.

 

And I was like:

 

“What is going on?”

 

And they’re making that noise that they make. They’re talking and yeah. And then the sun’s coming up and I’m like, what is going on? And I look at the time and it’s like 6:30. And it was just surreal! It was a surreal experience. And then he’s like:

 

“All right, we’re gonna go.”

 

He gave them bananas and double A batteries. And he taught them how to like Jerry rig a phone to be able to give co-ordinates so that he could communicate where they were in the bush using GPS. And it was just fascinating! It was just absolutely fascinating! That was my first positive experience with Aboriginals. And I had had only about 500 negative experiences with Aboriginals prior to that moment. And every negative experience I’d had with Aboriginals was them being drunk, or not even drunk, but them just behaving the way they behave, and then being violent and aggressive towards me for just existing, for just walking down the street or just going to the shops at two o’ clock in the afternoon. Or them harassing like pregnant ladies trying to get in their car, demanding money off them. Like just every experience I had was so negative.

 

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And then this was the first time I was like:

 

“I think I’m starting to understand these people. They live in a dream time.”

 

Like the proper full bloods. They live in a different reality to us. They don’t like time. The way we view time and the way they view time is completely different! And I somehow empathed in that moment into their little hive mind with Knightie, who was like my guide. His name was Christopher Knight, like a knight of Christ! And he was a very spiritually attuned man. And that was an experience I’ll never forget. I think I was almost, 20 years old. I was only 19!

 

But yeah, very interesting stuff. Very, very interesting stuff.

 

The stream looks frozen on my end. What is going on? No, no, it’s not frozen. Excellent! Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? I’ve seen the best of it and I’ve seen the worst of it. And the best of it is we should just leave these people alone. Like the problem is enlightenment. In a lot of ways, [chuckling] enlightenment has benefits, certainly. I’m not anti-enlightenment. You know, that’s a big part of how we’ve come to be. And it was a big part of our life cycle as a civilisation. It’s the second last phase of civilisation is enlightenment. The Greeks went through this around, I don’t know, 400 B.C. And yeah, I’m not against, you can’t be against it because it’s nature, it’s time itself.

 

But one of the dumbest parts of enlightenment is “equality”. That’s the dumbest part of enlightenment. The, the, that is the false enlightenment. The false enlightenment is that we’re all blank slates and that we’re all equal. That you know:

 

“All men are created equal before God and blah blah, blah!”

 

That is the most. How the hell. I don’t even know if they sincerely believe that. I can’t even fathom that they were that stupid that the people that colonised Australia, … Because when I read Clark, I’ve got it right here actually, this one here.

 

So this guy’s a communist. He’s a piece of shit, Leftist communist! And he wrote A History of Australia. I have, I’ve only read this one. I haven’t read the other volumes. I think this one ends around 1830. And he wrote this in I think 1961 or 62. And he’s a full blown communist and was investigated by ASIO for being, for coordinating with. Here’s the big boy here. Here’s the main man. Here’s the main man. Mr. Cook. Captain Cook. Anglo Saxon. Anglo Saxon. But yeah, Melbourne University. He’s a commie at Melbourne University.

 

Anyway, I read it. It’s quite interesting, quite subversive. But he, oh, he really emphasises the how enlightened Captain Cook and you know, Arthur Bligh and all these guys were and how they, but what’s interesting is he can’t hide the fact that despite their Enlightenment, despite the fact that they. Excuse me. They arrived in Australia and they tried to treat the Aboriginals as equals.

 

And so they’re like:

 

“Hey, let’s trade.”

 

And then there was nothing to trade. So they were like:

 

“Hey, let’s, …”

 

It was like a clash of values because they had these Enlightenment values and they didn’t know how to implement them on the Aboriginals. They didn’t know.

 

And so there was a whole bunch of different treat ways the Aboriginals were treated by European colonists. And I think it was the Portuguese and the Spanish in the Americas, but a little bit even in the Asia Pacific region, the Portuguese were in Asia Pacific as well. And they were basically like:

 

“You’re going to convert to Catholicism by the sword!”

 

And what Clark says is that they didn’t have those Enlightenment values. So you’ve got like Protestant Anglos trying to communicate with Aboriginals and like uplift them into humanity and uplift them into civility.

 

And then you’ve got the Portuguese with almost like pre-Enlightenment Catholic values that were just like “convert or die”. And that’s quite interesting. You know, it’s possible to talk about history without talking about Christianity. But yeah, that’s quite interesting. I won’t expand on that too much. You can gather from that what you want.

 

Yeah, where was I going with that? Yeah, he has all these little anecdotes or all these little stories about these first encounters and how, yeah, the enlightened English were just bewildered and were just like:

 

“We’ve never encountered this anywhere in the world!”

 

And he’s actually honest about the criticisms that they had. I think he might over embellish their enlightenment principles. I think they were probably a lot more racist than what he’s articulating because he’s a communist.

 

But yeah, I think I titled this Aboriginal communism, didn’t I? Before we get into the woman question, ultimately, if we don’t segregate from Aboriginals, we’re going to get destroyed by Aboriginal communism the way that what’s going on in South Africa, they’re dealing with African communism. And when you end apartheid and you mix or you attempt to get the races to all live together in equality and one is so different to the other, it’s a race to the bottom! And that’s ultimately what communism is, it’s a race to the bottom.

 

And it’s not just anti-enlightenment because there’s a lot of things that are anti-enlightenment, but it is anti-life! It’s ultimately anti-life because our version of life is an upward force, not a, so it’s hard to cover this without getting into the Greeks. You got to get into the Greeks because they figured all this out! And I don’t mean like the Greeks is in the souvlaki shop. I mean like the ancient Greeks, the philosophy.

 

The Greeks realised that when they went through their enlightenment that there’s not just being, there’s becoming. And that the ultimate being is becoming. And we use the word “progress” now and that word is obviously really dirty and that’s why I don’t use it. It’s a very dirty word. To say something is “progressive”, you’re saying it’s Leftist.

 

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And so the Leftists have actually somehow inverted “becoming” into “progression”. And so when they say it’s progressive, it’s actually regressive! It’s regressive of the total life force. Leftism is the downward path. It’s not Left versus Right, it’s up versus down! And this is something that you really need to understand. Communism, Aboriginal communism, jewish communism, any form of communism, any form of Leftist progression is a progression downwards! It’s progressing the life form downwards. And this applies to even politics of today.

 

So if you want to talk about party politics, if you want to call it that if you want to talk about Parliamentarianism, what the Labor Party here in. I know this is people like, I’m tuning out. I don’t want to hear this. But normies want to hear this. Normies, you do need to. If you’re listening to this, you’re probably not a normie. And you do need to know how to apply the logic that I’m articulating here in the stream to things other than ancient Greece and ancient Rome and like all this stuff, you need to be able to apply it to be able to explain it to, … You need to be able to speak in tongues and that doesn’t mean like that crazy Evangelical crap. That means you need to be able to speak the tongue of the people.

 

And so what the Labor Party here in Australia has done is they’ll get lost on this because they haven’t read a book on economics, but it’s this Keynesian economics where it’s window breaking. So they believe that if you keep breaking windows, the GDP will go up because the glazier is going to make more money. And, it’s all that in conjunction with Fabian socialism. So Fabian socialism is what:

 

“We want the windows to be broken because we want more money wasted on fixing windows instead of building the power system.”

 

And so Fabian socialists or Fabian Communists, Fabian Marxists. They’re ultimately Marxists. They want to create this workers revolution through accelerating the decline of society by wasting as much money as possible.

 

And so that’s why the NDIS is the way it is. That’s why the NDIS is bigger than the defense budget. That’s why we spend more money on parasites and retards than we do on protecting the nation from foreign invasion. It’s why we spend so much money on basically compounding problems. Not fixing problems, but compounding problems! And the problem itself is often the expenditure, the wastage, the fact that we’re taxing the noble, the good, the healthy, and we’re giving to the evil and the weak and the disgusting and the decrepit.

 

And this is Kali Yuga stuff. This is end of time stuff. This is what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. Why you have to read Mein Kampf. It’s not negotiable. It’s not negotiable! If there’s only one book you should read, it’s Mein Kampf, because he explains all of this. He explains exactly what’s happening, exactly why it’s happening and exactly what you need to do to stop it from continuing to destroy your society.

 

So that’s why they’re window breaking. That’s why the Labor Party and all the Greenies and all these freaks, they’re all on board with destroying society through taking money from good people and giving it to broken people. And what that does is that what you feed grows. And they know that! They know that! They know it and they’ve already projected how that industry is going to expand. And it is beyond political parties. I mean it’s the Uni-Party doing it. It’s not just the Labor Party. But it obviously gets worse under one and then the other does Labor Party light. They do Fabian socialism light. That’s what the Liberal Party is. It’s homosexuality light. Fabian socialism light. Retard economics light. You know it’s diet retardation!

 

Anyway. Aboriginal communism. Yeah. Where are we? Yeah. I don’t normally do Superchats mid conversation but Delvian said:

 

“Isn’t the abo love a second order consequence of White men becoming feminised and White women hating their own men?”

 

There’s definitely an element to that. I think there’s a lot of different components to the so-called “Aboriginal love”. There’s the false enlightenment, there’s self hatred. Yes. There’s virtue signaling. So society is structured wrong, which is what we’re going to get into with the feminine society and the woman question. Society is structured with an inversion of natural law. The moral framework of society is an inversion of what our society was built on.

 

So that is often described as late stage decline or degeneration where you forget what your purpose was to such an extent where it’s upside down. There’s obviously nefarious influence. There’s particular (((interest groups))) that are a particular ethno-religious orientation and they compound and accelerate and destabilise. Certainly. They’re obviously a major player in that process but it does happen on its own. And you know there’s a lot of, I won’t go into all the proverbs and quotes on the subject but this festering can only exist if you’re already going in that direction. What we need is a complete re-evaluation of values. And you know we have gone through two or three generations of a nihilist phase and we are re interpreting and revaluing our values. We are so far ahead morally of where we were 50 years ago. And people will aay:

 

“No! That’s not true. No! People were so conservative back in the day.”

 

And it’s like they were running off inertia. They hadn’t actually evaluated their values. They were just running off inertia. We’re actually so much further ahead by going through the decline, seeing the nihilism, seeing the hedonism.

 

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And I have so much faith and hope in the young generation. Young White people across the world, obviously, a lot of them are infected with the social disease. A lot of them are infected. But the ones that aren’t infected with the social disease have immunity. They have immunity! They have built up. They don’t need to be injected with anything. They have natural immunity! Young White people across the Western world are growing up immune to this social disease. And the disease of our time is not the plague. It’s not the Spanish Flu. It’s not? What is it? You know, all the ones that people, tuberculosis. It’s not these things that are killing people anymore, you know.

 

And Edward Dutton covers this a lot. I’ve talked about this on streams for years and years, and I’m so glad someone actually wrote a book about it. I’ve only read the blurb. I haven’t actually read the whole book, but I might actually get around to reading it at some point. But Dutton covers this and he explains that just the mutational load has the selection process now is, are you a retard or are you not? And if you’re not a retard, you’re most likely immune to the retardation that’s destroying our society.

 

So, yeah. All right, we’ll do it. We’ll go into the woman question. Check the comments first. Someone says:

 

“Ban women!”

 

No, we don’t need to ban them. Reese White says:

 

“Thomas. So are you a fan of Adam Green?”

 

I don’t really know anything about Adam Green. I’ve seen him on Twitter. He’s the anti-Christian guy, isn’t he? He’s kind of built like a platform. I haven’t seen him at all! I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t really know anything about him. I only know of him. Yeah, I can’t comment on that question. I’ve seen a lot of people attack him saying he’s jewish, and I’ve seen him say that Christianity is jewish.

 

So it’s like everyone’s saying:

 

“You’re a jew! No, you’re a jew! No, you’re a jew!”

 

And it’s like I’m not getting into it. It’s not in my sphere. I think I’ve seen him do chats with HT [Handsome Truth]. Yeah, we will cover a little bit of Christianity here. But yeah, you all know I’m not Christian. But we will cover it and we’ll cover it in a respectful way. I think that any criticism people have of Christianity should be done respectfully. I know that’s hard to do. It is very hard to do. But this is a, yeah, I try to be as secular as possible and yeah, let’s start with that. Let’s actually start with Christianity.

 

Let’s start with. If we’re going to talk about the woman question, let’s talk about Christianity.

 

So the Hebrew mythology or the Hebrew founding story is Adam and Eve. It’s a bit different to other founding stories, but you’ll find there’s so much similarities when you’re talking about the origins of man from. And I don’t use mythology. I don’t say mythology in a bad way. I don’t say it in a, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m not putting a pejorative on it. You know, all founding myth is myth. It’s mythos. We don’t know for sure, but we can respect myth. I respect myth. Yeah, and geez, we’re already into it.

 

But we all know the story Genesis. So we have this perfect garden of peace and harmony and the founding story of Christianity and therefore the founding message, the founding message of Christianity is that women are inherently attracted to evil. And breaching the peace and harmony of the garden that’s created by the father.

 

So it’s kind of like women inherently have to “shit test” a situation, a society, a these aren’t my words. This is not even my personal interpretation. I didn’t come up with this is what the Bible says.

 

And anyone that has a different version of Genesis is a moron and hasn’t read it. So many Christians haven’t read the Bible. Probably one of my main issues with Christians is that they haven’t read the Bible. I don’t think you should be allowed to call yourself a Christian if you haven’t read the Bible.

 

And likewise, I don’t think people should call themselves a National Socialist if they haven’t read Mein Kampf. I don’t think you should say that. I think you should say I’m interested in National Socialism, but I don’t think you should identify with it. You should hear the words from the man. He says it all. He outlines 95% of it in one book. And it’s a lot easier to read than the Bible. The Bible is a very hard book to read. It’s very tedious at parts. It, sure, it has beautiful parts, like all religious books have beautiful parts, but it is a very hard read. It’s a very long book. It’s like a million words. It takes a long time. Unless you race through it, if you race through it, you’re going to miss things. But Genesis is very clear. Like the first books, Genesis and Exodus, these things are very clear. Very, very clear. There’s no, not much nuance to it.

 

Now there’s obviously different mythological interpretations. What is the snake and what is the apple and what is God’s command and all this. But if you’re going to found a religion off this principle, it’s going to bleed through the whole text, isn’t it?

 

So whatever you’re reading later on in the Bible has to always come back to Genesis and a belief system that men and women were created unequally, that man was created from breathing life into dust or into matter. Women were created from the rib of man, so from the side. So it’s a peer, but it’s not an equal peer. There’s some sort of difference there. And so, I mean, obviously.

 

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But I was talking to Jacob recently and he’s been deep diving Plato. Absolutely deep diving Plato. I’ve read the Republic, but I haven’t read much else from Plato. And he was negging Aristotle, which I was surprised at because I actually prefer, at this stage, I prefer Aristotle to Plato, not to get too much into philosophy, but I’ve only read the Republic. So and I didn’t really rate it, to be honest. I thought it was an interesting dialogue, but I didn’t rate it as much as it gets glazed. But he’s been reading all the other stuff. Full deep diving into everything, every single thing the guy’s written. And what he said to me was, and this is very recently, he said to me that the Greeks believed that, or Plato believed, and this became quite a common belief system, that if that souls were created, this is before Christianity, they believe that souls were created fresh and that they were all men, that if you lived a bad life, if you were a bit, you know, weak or immoral, that you would be reincarnated in your next life as a woman. And this became a pretty well established belief system. And it’s interesting that that is in some way similar to Christianity, that they arrived at a position where they were ripe for proselytisation from Christian apostles.

 

So let’s start there. Obviously, European Paganism is many things, just as Christianity is many things. There’s so much schism within Paganism. And when you’re talking generally about Paganism, you’re talking about general principles which we know from Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Indus Valley, and obviously Germanic and Celtic Paganism. And people will cherry pick what they want.

 

There are female church leaders at the moment. I mean, that’s just absurd to me that the whole book is a document saying that women can’t accurately interpret God. They can’t accurately communicate or interpret or follow instruction from God. And therefore they shouldn’t be in charge of the Church. They can’t be in charge of society, they can’t be in charge of the Church. They just don’t possess the correct component to do that. And the whole religion is founded on that principle.

 

And then you have such a degradation of the Church that you now have women pastors and preachers and priests, priestesses or whatever you’d call them. I mean, it’s absurd! It’s not my church, I’m not a Christian. But the hypocrisy is despicable! It is truly despicable! So fascinating!

 

Now, Paganism has varying degrees of male and female relationships. Some interpretations of Paganism are a bit more equitable, others a lot less equitable.

 

So when we go back to the ancients and when we look at thousands of years of civilisation, there is not really any society that has treated men and women as the same, nor has there been a society that has treated women the way women are being treated right now! And it’s not a surprise that our birth rates are really low. Any society that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any civilisation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any nation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies! And therefore it is a footnote in somebody else’s history.

 

So we have to reevaluate our values and we have to completely change the way we behave or we’re going to die!

 

And so the woman question is the same question as White genocide. It’s the same question as White replacement. You cannot separate the two. You can’t say:

 

“Let’s stick to just White nationalism and let’s not talk about how evil feminism is. Let’s talk about White replacement. But we’ve got to keep women on side. We can’t say things that might hurt the feelings of women.”

 

And as I said at the start of the stream, this is a really dumb, weak, coward strategy that’s going to cause us to die as a race! Women don’t respect pandering. They find it disgusting! Feminists are pure evil! And they will because of there’s some force, you know, Christians could say they’re possessed. And I do put a lot of weight in possession. I know not everyone does because not everyone believes they have a soul. And not everyone believes in metaphysics or in like a spirit realm. And so people that are very rational will say:

 

“This person’s unwell, or this person’s mentally ill.”

 

All means the same thing. Whereas the more religious or spiritual way of looking at it is this person is spiritually ill, this person’s potentially possessed. And this isn’t very electable, but I have witnessed what I could only describe as exorcisms. I have seen the way some people have behaved, and there is no rational or logical explanation other than this person is possessed. This person has a demon, a demon in them! They’re not at rest. They’re not in harmony. They’re not. There’s something that is currently occupying them and it’s potentially just a phase, but if it keeps occurring, it’s like there’s something that rears its head, something unbecoming.

 

And that’s a difficult conversation to have with people that don’t believe in demons. They don’t believe that it could be possible. They’re so far into post Enlightenment rationalism that just:

 

“It’s so irrational, the idea that there are forces beyond our control that could perhaps be bad forces!”

 

You know, we can acknowledge that there is a good force and inherently good force on earth, but then we want to pretend that there’s not an inherently bad force on earth?

 

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So instead of arguing about whether Christianity is cucked or not, instead a better conversation is, what can we learn from Christianity? Where is Christianity right? And where is modern Christianity wrong? Or where is Christianity philosophically wrong? That’s a much more important discussion and it’s a more respectful discussion as well. Because what you’ll find is I can have these conversations. I had a conversation recently, probably 20, 30 minutes, with some Christian guys in America, and we could have a respectful conversation about what’s happening through that lens, through that lens of that there is an evil that is possessing. There is a snake in the garden, and it’s corrupting women. And then women are corrupting men. And that women, sorry, men, are aware of the snake. Snake, but most men are not aware of how this snake has perverted women.

 

And so the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read] is we need to normalise Patriarchy. I’m a big, big proponent of Patriarchy. I think that Patriarchy is the only way to save the White race. We cannot save the White race through feminism. We cannot save the White race through equality. We can only save the White race through a proper Patriarchy. A proper Patriarchy! And whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, enlightened, not enlightened, Catholic, orthodox, doesn’t matter! We cannot solve male, female. It does not matter! We cannot solve this problem without Patriarchy.

 

Now, it’s very easy for me to acknowledge Patriarchy because, one, I had a really good father. I have a really good father. My father’s still alive. I have a really good father. A really good father! And he has his flaws. Absolutely! And that’s product of environment and breeding and everything else. Right. We all have our flaws. I have my flaws. Product of environment and breeding and circumstance. But we’re on a mission! My bloodline has definitely been through the wars, and we’re on our way back up. All right. There’s a few more generations of work to do to really get us back on track. But I’m part of a Patriarchy. I have a lot of respect for my family name, my line, my lineage, my ancestry. This is really important to me.

 

And, it’s easy for me to accept and acknowledge this harsh reality. It’s not even a harsh reality. This reality because of what I come from. Women that have good fathers can accept this as well. Most women that can’t accept Patriarchy, they don’t have any respect for their fathers. And they don’t have respect for their fathers because their fathers don’t deserve respect.

 

Respect is not something that you’re entitled to. It is only earned. And I know that’s a platitude, and some people might think that’s a meaningless platitude, but that is absolutely core! Respect is earned! You’re not entitled to anyone’s respect. This is, I think, a false enlightenment principle that, like you should just respect the retard being moved around in the wheelchair. Like, what? What planet are these people on? Like, why that makes you a good person? How does that make me a good person? You know what quality of life is the drooling retard, God? And why are we wasting all our tax dollars paying for the drooling retard? This is solved very easily by Patriarchy. It’s not just solved by having a department in government that deals with the problem. It’s solved by Patriarchy.

 

And so one of the first principles of Patriarchy is that every man is king and priest and judge of his own house! I’ll say it again, for those that aren’t listening. The first principle of Patriarchy is that every man is king, is priest, is judge of his own house! And general. That was a component as well. There’s a martial component to it. And so every son, every boy wants to respect his father for the man that he is. And I can’t empath into how girls think, because I’m not a girl, but I would assume it’s similar. Not the same, but I assume it’s similar. I obviously have daughters. And you know what I was sad about when I was growing up? Not sad, but one thing I was surprised at was I asked my dad why he never joined the army. Because I know his dad was in the navy or in the Defense Force. I know his granddad was in the army.

 

And I remember asking my dad:

 

“Why weren’t you in the army?”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, look.”

 

Because they had the draught for the Vietnam War, and he was of that age, and he just never got called up. So he was like:

 

“Oh, I got lucky!”

 

That was his answer. I think he said something:

 

“I got lucky. You know, you put your birthday in. You had to register. You put your birthday in.”

 

And he said something about “balls with birthdays” on them. Like, it was like the lotto. Like, they’d pull a ball out. And if it was like, March 18th, which is my dad’s birthday, then you’re going, you’re signing up.

 

And I thought that was absurd! But it’s one way to do it. I mean, it’s fucking clown world! But anyway, that was his position, was like:

 

“Oh, he got lucky. He avoided it.”

 

And I always thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool? I always thought, wouldn’t it be cool to walk into my dad’s office and he’s got all his, like, armour and his rifle? And I just had this idea of like. And it’s probably ancient. It’s probably something like an altar, like an altar to Mars, like an altar to masculinity, an altar to the Patriarchy. And then to be able to see my grandfathers and you know there are families that still, they keep all their family medals, the war medals and stuff.

 

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But I mean let’s put that on steroids. It’s not just having like the medals, it’s like walk in and be able to see like generations and generations of uniforms and rifles and, or even before going all the way back to a family sword. That just, that idea is just so cool! And I think every like 10 year old boy thinks like that.

 

And if you don’t, you’re probably a faggot, or maybe you had the idea but in a different way. But if that doesn’t seem cool to you, yeah, fuck you basically! I don’t know. Yeah, you’re not in my gang, that’s for sure. You’re not in my tribe.

 

So back to the woman question. So [chuckling] respect, respect. You can respect that. And I didn’t respect my dad as much as I would have if we had something like that. If my dad had something like I kind of lost a little bit of respect for my dad when I was like 10 years old. When I was like:

 

“Why wasn’t my dad. His answer was he ‘got lucky’.”

 

I was like:

 

“Huh, I don’t know if that’s luck.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like why would that be lucky? Obviously it’s a dumb war and blah, blah, blah and geopolitics is so broken and everything now.

 

But I think part of us is whether you go and fight in a war or not, I think men should be war-like. And I think the “retard budget” should be directed entirely into well first of all we shouldn’t be taxed as much as we are. So there shouldn’t even be a retard budget.

 

But obviously I like when we take power. I’m deleting the retard budget and putting all of it or most of it or some of it into building like the Stormtrooper halo suit Department. I’ve said this before.

 

To get back onto, someone just says:

 

“Fuck employment!”

 

[chuckling] Modern world does a Superchat:

 

“Thoughts on the employee question.”

 

I actually haven’t watched the podcast that young Michael Nelson did on the subject of employment but I can imagine what he was saying. My position has always been that you need to be productive, you need to be productive, you need to find a way of being productive. You don’t want to just sit around doing nothing! But you need to have times of sitting around doing nothing in order to think of productive things to do.

 

And when you’re in employment, like I have had nothing but issues with like Gen-X’s and Boomers that have employed me over the years where they want you to work 50, 60 hour weeks, they want you just in employment, they want you just head down and just hammer drill in the concrete and just ernnn! Or if you’re doing some other job that’s slightly more technical or less manual labour, it’s the same thing. It’s just head down and you’ve just got no time, no time to be a better man. You’re just stuck in a trap! You’re stuck in like a debt trap. And I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where anyone except slaves have worked six days a week or even five days a week. I just think that that’s slavery and they’re boxing us in. We’re getting boxed in and boxed in and boxed in! It’s so obvious what’s happening and it’s so obvious why Zoomers especially and Gen Alpha will be even more so, why people are checking out of this employee, … We’re just getting boxed in.

 

Like we’ve gone from nice blocks of land. There’s plenty of things to do, there’s plenty of animals to tend to. And then you work a couple days a week, you know, old mate needs help with something, you go help him, this guy and people were these warrior farmer builders first, and they were doctors and doctors and dentists and lawyers and tradesmen or skilled labourers second. And it was the pleb class. It’s always historically been the pleb class that became entirely microscopically focused on a singular trade. So like I do pottery, that’s all I do they live in a tiny little house in the city in Rome and they’re the Potter. And all they do is pottery and they just make pots and nothing else. And they do it six days a week, 12 hours a day. And they make pots and they sell the pots and they make pots and they sell the pots. That is what slaves do. That’s what slaves do. That’s slavery!

 

And so, but the whole economics is geared against us because of what they’ve done, because of interest, because of debt slavery. It’s because of debt slavery we can’t build intergenerational wealth where we can have big families on large plots of land where we can learn a whole bunch of skills and manage our farms and feed ourselves and look after ourselves in tight knit communities.

 

The whole economics is now geared that everyone’s a little bug, a little cog in the system. They do their little bug roll and they get their little bug ration and this is broken. This is not sustainable. It’s not going to last. How many generations is this going to go on for? Judging by how much Zoomers want to check out, I’d suggest that Alphas or Betas or what like two or three generations from now, if this problem hasn’t solved itself, I would assume things are gonna be very different.

 

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And obviously tying this into politics we’re gonna completely change the zoning laws. Part of the problem with this is people living on 200 square metre little blocks, apartments, townhouses. Part of this is just so dysgenic. We need to not be slave bug people. We need space, we need land, we need multitudes of tasks. Specialisation is key. Don’t get me wrong. We built higher civilisation because individuals did hyper specialise into things. But making pots is not a hyper specialisation. You know what I mean? Like historically people did their specialisation part time. They’d worked a couple days a week doing, and it was usually what was called journeymen. They were usually journeymen like if they were a dentist, or a doctor or whatever and obviously there was no such thing as a lawyer. The whole system worked differently, like tradition, ancient culture and the higher becoming. We have better technology now, but it’s made us, I think we can do both. I think we can continue to improve technology without living like bugs. And I don’t think that interest slavery helped us increase our technology. The increasing technology is part of the life cycle. It’s part of the life cycle of civilisation. And it’s not going to continue progressing in this direction forever for two reasons. One, the law of diminishing returns. And two, we are destroying our stock. So we can’t. We’re going to be in a system decline. The car, the calibre of men that built the society. We can’t even maintain it. We can’t even maintain it.

 

And there’s an elite. They call it elite overproduction. But it’s not. It’s the false elite overproduction. We’ve built a false elite and that’s why these rodents that are all 100, 105 IQ, they got Master’s degrees. They’re absolute midwits! They’re not idiots, but they’re absolute midwits! They are the ones running this into the ground. We have allowed midwits to take over society!

 

And I’m not going to talk about what my IQ is because I don’t think it’s super important, but I think it’s clear that it’s at least one or two standard deviations above average. And we’re having midwits go through university, male and female, and then they’re taking elite positions, but there’s not enough elite positions, so they have to create positions for these other fake elites.

 

And that’s like psychology, for example. You’ve got so many idiots going through university and studying psychology. And so we’ve created a whole industry of government rebates here in Australia and in America you’ve got all this drug prescription and all this mental illness and all this compounding issues of the parasitism of psychology. Psychology, psychoanalysis, psychotherapists, all of this is a parasite economy. They’re all parasites. They’re all parasites! It’s one giant parasite economy! And the purpose of it is to continue to make the problem worse so that they can have employment. And so they will never, ever be able to solve the problem because a purpose of a system is what it does.

 

So that’s just one element of university that’s caused this over education. We’ve got this over education where if you don’t go to university, you’re a moron. And it’s like we have more engineers and architects than we’ve ever had and our society is uglier and more broken! So it shows you that exclusion is the rule to greatness. You need to be exclusive in order to create hyper specialisation. You can’t just send everyone to university or the vast majority of people to university, and then think:

 

“Oh my God, society is getting so much better!”

 

It’s like, no, we’re running off the inertia of intelligent, hyper selective people. And the show’s about to come to a halt. We have printed so much money! They’re literally printing like $8 trillion, not a trillion, 8 billion dollars a day in the US to keep their bullshit fake economy going. And it’s just leading to the Weimar conditions. And we’re going to pay for all of this. We’re going to pay for all of this.

 

And that’s why you need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. And I’ve gone off topic from Patriarchy, but it all ties together. You can’t cover the subject without covering it all. Obviously. I’ll take a pause and I’ll come back.

 

Someone asked me about the employment question. Yeah. You gotta have skills. Look, you gotta have skills. Home of the brave, says:

 

“Tom, you’re the embodiment of the spiritual healing of the entire European race. Hey, we approach phase one of total re-migration of nons in the West. Segregation. Stay safe!”

 

Nah, I can’t do that on the stream. It’s a good question. I appreciate the question. Maybe I can leave that to the end. I can’t do that at this stage. I have to cover the woman question. Celine says:

 

“As a younger White woman, I’ve had to come to terms with Jesus being brown when I’ve always pictured him as a tall White man. Jesus being brown makes me deny it. Christianity is more of a woman thing.”

 

I don’t necessarily agree with. I don’t know what Jesus looked like. But I’ll tell you a really funny story. I’m not sure if I told this story on stream. Obviously all the Christian identitarians are raging at you now because they’re all saying Jesus was blonde hair, blue eyed, Aryan. I saw a really funny post yesterday or last night where some guy was saying that Jesus was Italian. He was like:

 

“He was born in Judea of the Roman province of Syria. He was therefore Roman. He was therefore Italian. Jesus was Italian!”

 

I just thought it was funny. Obviously he’s not being serious, but I wonder what the implications of everyone saying Jesus was Italian would be. And whether that’s like a bit of an icebreaker. Because it’s like people say Jesus is a jew. Well, the Bible says Jesus is a jew. And then Christian Identitarian said Jesus was like a Nordic Aryan. And then it’d be funny if we just say like:

 

“We meet at halfway and say Jesus was Sicilian or something!”

 

That’ll [chuckling] cause drama, won’t it, that one! But that just would be funny. We’re like, Jesus was White passing. That’s like the compromise. Now I know you people don’t believe in compromise. They want it one way or the other. Maybe that’ll keep the peace for like five minutes. If we just say Jesus was Italian. It’s a theory. What’s the funny story? So someone in the conversation tell me if I’ve said this before on stream. I can’t remember. Some [chuckling] guy replied, “smartest women woman”. Look, I think I’ve only told this story in person. It’s story time. I might have said it once on stream.

 

[1:33:41]

 

So the last time I was in prison last year I was in solitary confinement and I wanted a Bible. Actually, this Bible right here, this one right here. King James. I wanted a King James Bible because I got my other prison Bible. This is the prison Bible I got the first time into prison. It’s the NIV*. Look at that. [chuckling] Presented to Thomas Sewell, Melbourne Assessment Prison. That was in 2021.

 

[* The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.]

 

Anyway. This is now:

 

“Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. Adam and his wife were both naked and they felt no shame.”

 

Genesis 3:16:

 

“To the woman, he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe. With painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you’.”

 

“Then the Lord said to Cain, where is your brother Abel? I don’t know. He replied, am I my brother’s keeper? The Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for. You will be a restless wanderer of the earth.”

 

Yes, well, they got the mark on him. And I really wonder when circumcision started and when the restless wanderers of the earth started getting the anti-semitisms on him. Anyway, that’s just a theory. I won’t go too deep into that or piss people off.

 

But anyway, I got that version and I read it in full.

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow, okay!”

 

I probably should have read this the first time, but I wasn’t ready because you kind of you read the Bible when you’re a kid and you just like, you don’t read it properly, you don’t read it in full. And when you’re in solid confinement, you get a lot of time to read the Bible. And I read the NIV and I was like:

 

“Whoa, okay, this is definitely eye opening.”

 

And everyone’s trying to convert me. And I’m like:

 

“No, I can’t. Like, I just read it. I just read the whole thing. Are you kidding me?”

 

And they were like:

 

“You read the wrong translation.”

 

So then this time I went to prison. I went and got a King James. It didn’t make any difference for me. But I do think the King James is a better Bible. But story time.

 

So how did I get the King James Bible? So when I got to prison this time I got sent to Barwon, which is a much nicer prison. It’s older, but it is better. And because I was in Port Phillip before that. And they wouldn’t give me a Bible, they took my Bible off me. I got another NIV. I got a wait, is that King. No. So that’s a King James. No, they took it off me, sorry. I got that one later I got another NIV and when I got transferred from Melbourne Assessment the second time to the prison, the Barwon prison, they took my NIV off me and I had to fill out a form to get another Bible.

 

And I was like:

 

“Why? Why would you take the Bible off me? I don’t understand. Just let me keep the book.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, it’s not your property. It’s the property of the MAP.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“So you’re going to send the Bible back to the MAP, back to the other prison?”

 

It’s just crazy! But they’re just there to fuck with you. That’s their existence. And they won’t even let a non-Christian man keep his Christian book. And so then I had to fill out a form to get a Bible. And to get a Bible you had to have a meeting with a priest.

 

So if you want a Quran, you could have a meeting with an imam. If you want to. Whatever it is what it is. I don’t know what the Buddhists have. But like there was these boxes you could tick. I ticked the Christian box and I picked the Anglican one because I’m an Anglo Saxon and I’m not a Catholic, I’m not orthodox, and my grandmother was Anglican. None of the men in my family went to church really, but the women did. And they were Anglicans and so, Church of England. So I picked the Anglican box and it took two weeks.

 

And then this guy, I get pulled out of my cell and I get put in like a visitor room and I’m put in there with a priest. And I’ll just check the comments. Have I told this story on stream? Because I won’t go into too much detail if I have. Oh Jesus, so many comments. Have I told this story before? I’ll just tell the story!

 

And so he was like. I asked him:

 

“Why are you Christian?”

 

And he told me a story. The priest, he said that when he was a teenager he was really angry and him and his mates went out to this golf course and they had a BB gun and they shot a bunch of magpies or something. A bird, I can’t remember what type of bird I think was a magpie. Magpies. And he just felt horrible! He just felt horrible about it afterwards. He had a lot of regret and guilt about killing these magpies.

 

[1:40:02]

 

And then, he was raised in a Christian household, in a Christian environment, but he just wouldn’t go to church. And after like leaving the Church for a year or two and kind of hanging out with the wrong kids and you know, doing bad stuff, like shooting magpies with BB guns, as like most 14 year old boys probably would if they had a BB gun, he started noticing the kids walking home from church. They just looked happier. They just looked happier. And he was like:

 

“I wanted that happiness. I wasn’t happy and I wanted that happiness. And so I started going back to church and I asked my priest, when I was 14, I said I want to be happy like the other kids, they’re all happy. Why am I happy? And the priest said to me, you have to surrender yourself to God. You have to be God’s slave. You have to submit yourself. And once you submit yourself, then you’ll be happy. Then you’ll finally find peace. Because you’re fighting God and that’s why you’re unhappy. And you just have to stop fighting. You have to give up! And when you give up and you let go, then you’ll finally be happy.”

 

And he says:

 

“Why do you ask?”

 

And I was like:

 

“So I asked because I’m not Christian, but I ticked the Anglican box because it was the closest thing that I could do. But what I really want is a Bible. So I’ve got something to read in here because they’re torturing me and I’d like a Bible.”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, okay, okay, yeah, but why do you want to know why I’m a Christian?”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, I’m just fascinated. I want to know your story. Like you’re a priest. Like you’re obviously highly motivated to be a Catholic, Anglican priest. You know, I just, I want to learn more about your journey and like how that, how do you become an Anglican priest?”

 

And then we talk a lot more about this subject. And he’s very, he’s very apprehensive. He’s very like on the back foot the whole time, very defensive. And yeah, just the way he explained it to me, I said to him:

 

“You know, do you still have this same attitude? Like, do you still feel this way about God? Is that your relationship with God?”

 

And he said to me, he said:

 

“I wake up every morning, and the first thing I do every morning is I pray to God and I say, God, I am your slave. Let your will be done through me! I am your vessel. I am your slave on this earth!”

 

And I was like:

 

“You do that every morning?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yep, that’s what I do.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow! That is fascinating!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“It is, isn’t it? And I know that might sound really intense, but it works. It works for me! And I’m so much happier. Life is so much easier this way. It’s just so much easier! Like, I don’t feel what I used to feel. And, look, I still have challenges, and I’m a grandfather now, and da, da, da, da. But life is just so much easier this way!”

 

Okay, [chuckling] what the fuck! Okay. Anyway, an hour goes by, we shake hands, and he goes:

 

“Nice to meet you, Tom. Blah, blah, blah.”

 

And then the second time I meet him, so I ticked the box again. I want to have another conversation. He says to me right at the end, he goes:

 

“Do you want to meet me again? Do you want to talk to me again?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely! I really enjoyed this conversation.”

 

“Are you sure?”

 

I said:

 

“Yeah, I really enjoyed this conversation. I really enjoyed it. I would like to meet you again.”

 

And he said:

 

“Okay, well, what about next week?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Maybe not next week. I need a bit more time to digest this conversation. But maybe give me two weeks.”

 

He said:

 

“Okay, two weeks, Same time, same day.”

 

I’m like:

 

“Excellent!”

 

So this is my only human contact. I’m in a concrete box for two weeks straight. And then I meet up with him again. He walks in and he’s nervous. He’s so nervous! And he says:

 

“Tom, I have to be honest with you. I Googled your name. I thought I recognised you, but I Googled your name, and it was really hard for me to come in today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh! Why is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“Because, … There’s a lot of people in this prison, and they’ve really beautiful people that have done really horrible things. And I’ve never felt like this before where I felt selfish that I didn’t want to come in. But I prayed to God this morning, and I said God, I don’t want to talk to this man. I don’t like this man. I think this man is evil, and I don’t want to speak to him. What should I do? And what God told me was that’s why you have to go speak to him. Because he’s evil. Because he’s evil, you have to go speak to him. That’s why!”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, okay, all right.”

 

And then I said to him:

 

“You ever spoken to a paedophile?”

 

I said:

 

“Have you ever felt that way about a paedophile?”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, no. There are some really beautiful people in this prison. Some really beautiful people in this prison.”

 

“Never felt that way about a paedophile? Okay, interesting! Well, luckily, you are God’s slave, and that God forced you to come in here today to speak to me!”

 

And [chuckling] he said:

 

“I want to show you something. I want to show you my God! I want to show you my God!”

 

And I was like:

 

“Okay, you want to show me your God?”

 

“Are you ready? Are you ready for my god?”

 

It’s this weird, passive aggressive, feminine. He’s got tears in his eyes. And he’s like:

 

“Before I do, can I ask you a question? Why did you want to speak with me?”

 

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And I said to him:

 

“Because I told you the truth last time. My grandmother was an Anglican. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I ticked the Anglo box, not the Catholic box. Simple as.”

 

And he was like:

 

“But me specifically, did you know I was the Anglican priest. Me, personally?”

 

And I was like, I think his name was [changed]. And I was like:

 

“Leslie, I don’t know who you are. I just know that you’re an Anglican priest.”

 

He goes:

 

“You don’t know about my past?”

 

I was like:

 

“No, I don’t know. What is your past?”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I want to tell you a story, Tom. You know, I had to take a stand against, … I mean, there’s a lot of evil men in the world., …”

 

And he’s talking like a lesbian. He speaks like a lesbian, right? He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of, …”

 

Like a feminist. He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of evil men in the world. And Donald Trump comes to mind, and Adolf Hitler comes to mind. And when I was younger, there was a man that came to power in Australia that reminds me of Donald Trump, and his name was John Howard. And when John Howard came to power, he had an immigration minister called Peter Dutton, who you might know, because he was running for prime minister recently. And they imprisoned people in concentration camps on, …”

 

I think it was like, Manus Island or something, one of these islands off the coast of Australia:

 

“And there were these people, these desperate, honest, loving, caring, they were God’s children, and they wanted to come to Australia, and they begged for our help and our safety. And they were refugees, …”

 

And he’s literally crying! He’s literally crying!:

 

“And we locked them and their children in concentration camps on these islands and treated them so horribly! And I had to make a stand, so I went and visited them!”

 

So he goes to the concentration camp and he’s like. [chuckling] He says:

 

“And I like painting. And I met this man, and he was a refugee, …”

 

And I think he was Iranian or Iraqi or something like that. I think Iraqi. And he goes:

 

“And I met this Iraqi man, and his name was Fadim, …”

 

Or some shit! And he goes:

 

“I said to him, you are so beautiful! You are such a beautiful man. Can I paint you? I want to paint you. Will you let me paint you?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Yes, I’ll let you paint me. And then I painted him.”

 

And it’s hot. It’s so weird! He’s holding a, he’s got like a, he’s got the, … Imagine this is the painting of the guy, but he’s got it like this, and he’s holding it on the table, and he’s holding it upside down. And he’s holding upside down on the table, and he’s like:

 

“I want to show you this. And the reason why I want to show you this is because when I was painting him, I looked into his eyes and he was crying. He had tears in his eyes as I was painting him. And I was painting him. And the whole time I was thinking about Jesus on the donkey going into Bethlehem as a refugee, needing safety. And I thought, this man is from that region. This man is from the same region, very similar region, near the Euphrates. And he’s a refugee as well., …”

 

You can predict the whole conversation, can’t you? Like, I’m drawing it out, but I’m drawing it out for effect. This was the tone this guy was taking with me.

 

“And I still remember. And I thought to myself, this is what Jesus would look like, and this is how Jesus would feel if he was here right now with us, seeing what John Howard, behaving in a fascist man manner, putting these innocent people in concentration camps! This is how Jesus would be looking at me. So I painted him. So I painted my God! This is my God, Thomas! This is my God!”

 

And then he shows me a painting of a brown man crying. And he’s like:

 

“This is my God! How do you feel?”

 

A picture of a brown man crying. And I was like:

 

“Fascinating! Fascinating! That’s your God?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I want you to have this. I want you to put this up in your cell.”

 

And I was like:

 

“No, no, I don’t want it. It’s your painting.”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, this is a copy of it. This isn’t the one I painted. This is a copy. I want you to have it. I want you to put this in your cell and I want you to look at my God! And I think that will really help you and I think that’s why I was sent here today to give you this painting.”

 

And I was like:

 

“It’s a decent painting. You’ve done a good job painting it, for sure. This is not my God! This is your God. This is not my God! I can’t put this in my cell. It’s just not my God! Not my God! There are many gods. This one’s not mine. This is your one!”

 

And [chuckling] that was the end of the conversation! And yeah, fuck, I’ve just had too much life experience at this stage! [chuckling]

 

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And when I got out of jail, I’m gonna Google this church that this guy’s from. And it’s like gay flags and trans rights and refugees are welcome and all this shit!

 

And it’s like [chuckling] women pastors! These people, they’re sick! They make me sick! People in the chat saying, Jesus’ Italian. Man. A lot of, lot of Superchats to go through. Jeez. How much more do you want me to go, in a detail about that one? Oh, I don’t know what it is. It’s not dopamine, but it’s some sort of chemical. There’s some chemical in the brain. It’s just surreal! It’s like a surreal chemical. It’s not dopamine. It’s the surrealism of it. It’s the surrealism. Hyper, hyper, what do they call it? Hyper realism. How are these people real? They share this planet with us. What planet are they on?:

 

“I felt really bad for the magpies. That’s why I had to go back to the Church!”

 

Well, yeah, obviously you shouldn’t just like indiscriminately kill animals!

 

But what he was doing at 14 was what all 14 year old boys do, is they’re testing themselves. They’re seeing, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I put meat on the table? Can I put meat on the table?

 

And I said to him:

 

“Are you a vegetarian now?”

 

When he talked about the magpies, I said:

 

“Are you a vegetarian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, I’m not, but I make sure I thank God every time I have meat. And I thank God for what’s happened to the animal and pray for the animal.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough. That’s good. I respect that.”

 

I have a lot of respect for that. I think that’s important when you take life and you’re consuming that life. Trans. The transmutation of it. Transubstantiation. Yeah. Like you’re putting meat on the table and you shouldn’t indiscriminately kill, but you’re doing what all teenage boys do when they’re going through puberty is they’re seeing not just if they can do it, but they go over the top. You know what I mean? They go a little, you go a little bit over the top and then you dial it back in. You’re like:

 

“All right, that was unnecessary.”

 

But he’s gone, he’s dialled it back in so much that his God is a brown man crying. That he has to live with White people!:

 

“He has to come live with the White people! He has to! We have to let them in! We have to!”

 

This is what his God wants. So look, obviously if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this, you would be disgusted by that story, that this is the calibre of priests. This is not Patriarchy. This is not the original church. This is not anything like the Greeks or the Romans or the Hebrews or even the jews. This is like the jews don’t even behave this way. This is like sub-Aryan and sub, even sub-Hebrew behaviour. And like ancient Hebrew, if we’re going to call it that. But this is like a completely poisoned chalice and these people are church leaders.

 

And so, yeah, it’s been completely infiltrated by communists. This is the downward path. They’re cherry picking document a book that has a lot in it.

 

As I said, the Bible’s a million things! There’s a million words in it. There’s a lot going on in that book. You can cherry pick whatever you want to articulate something, but what you can’t lie about is the general progression of themes and the general moral structure that the Bible is putting forward.

 

Now, is there, in my opinion, contradictions of the moral structure? I think there are some things that, and I’ve discussed them, I won’t go into them today. But you’ve all heard me say what I think is contradictory in there, within the moral, within the framing of a lot of things. And in short, I don’t like the story of Jacob and Esau. I don’t like that story.

 

Well, I mean, I don’t like the character! I don’t like the individual. And I don’t like the moral of that story. I think it is either miswritten or it’s not correct, it’s not right, it’s not fair, or there’s missing data, something’s missing from it. In my opinion. Like that would be the only way I could describe it as a moral story. Anyway. But the Bible’s full of that, of this kind of fight of morality. And you can see the schism of morality. You can see the schism of an ethnicity or the schism of a people are schisming, which is I guess one of the main themes of the whole text.

 

But if we just come back a little bit and we don’t talk about the Bible and Christianity, we just talk about the theme of Patriarchy, which is beyond just Christianity. I think that’s one thing the pagans and Christians can both agree on, is that we need Patriarchy.

 

And I think the Christian view is that women are inherently prone to an evil influence, just as men are, but that it infects the women first. And you can kind of see that with how giving women the right to vote and the late Enlightenment values of total, absolute human equality led to the suffragettes and led to women voting and led to first wave, second wave, third wave feminism that has come out of that structure. And we can see the damage that that has done to society. Anyone that can’t is obviously an idiot! But we can see the damage that it’s done. And yet women are also capable of fixing the situation. That’s also interesting.

 

As I said before, when I started women, more women voted for Adolf Hitler than men!

 

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So that is a very redeeming quality when you realise that. Well, hang on a minute. Why? How could that possibly be? How could that possibly be? And what that might give a little bit of Credence to is this idea that when there is a strong leader, when there is a return of masculinity and a return of Patriarchy, women are actually more inclined to notice it than men. Women are more intuitive to the cure than men are. They’re more sensitive to the disease, but they’re more sensitive to the cure as well.

 

So I had a thought that ran through my head yesterday or the day before, which was, if we don’t contain women or restrain women, who will? Who’s going to? Because what we can see by the decline of the last hundred years of civilisation is we have removed the barriers, all barriers, every barrier possible, and said:

 

“No. Men and women are exactly the same!”

 

And we have done this to the detriment of women. We have not improved their life, and more importantly, we have not improved civilisation, and we have not improved the fucking mission. And the mission isn’t to make women happy. I want to make that very clear. That’s not the mission. It’s not to make men happy either. You know what this guy’s talking about? It’s like he accepted God because he wanted to be happy. That’s what Nietzsche talks about. That’s crazy! Well, it’s not crazy, but it’s like, that’s not why you should accept God. That’s selfish! That’s not the mission. Morale is not your happiness. It’s your willingness to fight. You have to fight for a mission. You have to fight for a purpose, for meaning.

 

And I believe you have to fight for life itself. Life is an upward struggle. And my religion, my personal religion is what my interpretation of Hitler’s religion is, which is that it’s about struggle into victory. And that these things aren’t necessarily steady states or acts of being, but they’re acts of becoming. Struggle is an act of becoming into victory, which is also an act of becoming.

 

So it’s never ending. It never ends. It’s like beyond time because God has to be above time. God can’t be subject to time because then he’s not God. So God is above time. So therefore, struggle and victory have to be conceived as being principles above time. That it’s like infinite struggle for infinite victory. It’s just like a yeah, it’s like you got a hail victory and you got a hail struggle. You got a hell struggle to hail victory! You know, which is a bit. Yeah, a bit different to:

 

“I just wanted to be happy! I just saw all these people around me and they were happy. And I just wanted to be happy. I just wanted to be a good person because I was a bad person!”

 

You know what? Yeah. [chuckling] Very different sense of moral structure and moral framework. So yes, Patriarchy, restraint, it’s about building a world that is driving towards this goal. And the relationship between men and women in that world is one built off respect, not pandering.

 

And so the issue with our society at the moment at a just socio-economic level with 50, 60% divorce rate, with the family courts tearing families apart like all the societal diseases we’ve got, is about, what they all come down to regarding the bad relationships between men and women and is that women have on average more respect for the government and more respect for the system, for the justice system or for the police than they do for their own husband and their own father. That’s the issue!

 

So a system needs to be built by husbands and fathers that form a collective, that form an organisation that are all on the same page with how they’re managing their family. It’s up to them how they manage their family. But they’re all roughly on the same page as to how they manage their family. A nation is a collection of families. It’s not a bunch of gay men masturbating into each other’s assholes and adopting kids. That’s not a nation. That’s just craziness! A nation is a bunch of families. You know, the family is the building block. This is not a meaningless platitude. It is the truth! You cannot have a nation without families. Because a nation is an extension of the family.

 

And so therefore the leader of a nation has to be the extension of the leader of a family. And the leader of the family is the father or the grandfather or the great grandfather, if he’s still alive. Like that is the leader of the family.

 

And that’s how society has always worked. And it’s a sacred, ancient, basically unwritten rule. I mean, we don’t even need to write this down. This is a reality.

 

And anyone that disagrees with that reality is our enemy. Because they disagree with it, because they care more about something else than making our society, our civilisation, our blood, our spirit, our life force, move upwards. They care about something else. They care about some sort of momentary happiness or some sort of:

 

“I want to feel good. I want to get along with everyone.”

 

Like this is their God, this is their God!

 

And so those people shouldn’t be given the same rights as the Patriarchs, as the people that acknowledge that:

 

“Hang on a minute. We’ve tried that. What it leads to is like millions of Indians and Arabs and Africans coming into our country and just like raping and pillaging and destroying it economically, socially, and sometimes unfortunately, physically.”

 

And these consequences are obvious. And we’re going to structure society in a way that this doesn’t happen going forward. So yeah, it’s non-negotiable. I’ll go through the comments and wrap up the stream.

 

[2:05:06]

 

Where are we? Where are we? Celine’s got another question. Just something about I don’t like Christians. Cool. Three story Rory:

 

“G’day, Thomas. What do you think about starting a petition for Joel Davis similar to one for Brandon Koschel? Chances of their release are low, but this activism can rally support and drive attention.”

 

A petition? I don’t understand what a petition is. Yeah, I’m not in the petition business because it doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. There’s a petition to deport me to New Zealand with a hundred thousand signatures, and yet here I am in Melbourne, Australia.

 

So look, the way we get Joel out of prison is either he’s released because the Supreme Court has a sense of the law and will enforce the law and the law says that he should be released from prison. And the Supreme Court follow through with that because the magistrates certainly don’t uphold the law. They’re activists. They’re political activists that do what the politicians tell them to do. That’s the only way to get him out of prison. Or we wait for the infinity amount of time he’s got to be in prison.

 

But yeah, sorry, a petition is not going to do anything. It’ll help raise awareness and that’s really the purpose of petitions. But no, I’m not in that business:

 

“Thank you for your sacrifices and bravery. God bless!”

 

Yep, thank you. A lot of comments. A lot of comments. Fanny Schrute says:

 

“Jesus was Italian.”

 

I think that’s the way to go. Someone gives me $100 for the cause:

 

“No need for acknowledgment.”

 

Thanks, mate. Celine’s got another one. Something about KGV, Shakespearean old English language. Stone Mountain:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women versus infidelity in men? And are our highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

Oh, that actually brings me to what I was meant to talk about the manosphere and stuff and we just end up talking about Christianity. Yes. That actually brings me to the second half of the stream, and we’ve been going for like two and a half hours. It’s crazy! This is madness, guys!

 

Yes, yes. Look, let me get a glass of milk. Let me get a glass of milk. And I have all these thoughts that I’m gonna put down. Because there’s just been so much chatter about the manosphere and looks maxing and Louis Thoreau’s recent thing. And I made a little post. Obviously most of you have probably already read my post, just explaining, the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read]. These people that are trying to embarrass the manosphere, which is quite easy, clearly. These people are not morally triumphant. These people are equally as bad, if not worse than the manosphere. And don’t get blindsided by this and fall into some trap where you’re going to take moral, what’s it called? Not legalisms, like lectures. Don’t take moral lectures from these freaks! These people are easily as bad, if not worse than the manosphere people. The manosphere people, a lot of them are not good people. I want to make it clear this next segment is not in defense of the manosphere. I’m not saying that. I’ll explain how you should accurately interpret why this phenomenon exists and how it needs to transmute into something much better. I’ll be back. I’ll just close this little thingy. Two minutes.

 

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DJTriumph
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18 hours ago
the James Mason podcast was great
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FLmetalhead
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Where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Jaymeo1
12 hours ago
Link ?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
11 hours ago
Where is it?
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baileyspunts
13 hours ago
Man i love when Sewell streams. White pill every time
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LachlanMD
21 hours ago
L foids
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RoseRock444
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19 hours ago
Nah. W foids
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Jomaha22
20 hours ago
Every time I see that text “manosphere” I cringe. Where did this analogy came from? Ayn Rand male equivalent?
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
im guessing its the “every single time” crowd
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christophawilkins
16 hours ago
hail
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
great to see another talk mate
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squatmech
18 hours ago
There never anything wrong with the volume wtf is wrong with these people it’s like if you get kicked out of hundred bars but with low volume…
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eclipseNF
14 hours ago
What’s the 5 hour stream where is it?
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Hazelmango
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10 hours ago
https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
9 hours ago
Thanks a lot

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
whats gonna get too us 1st, terminator or mad max?
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Mad Max. These fuel shortages are serious & AI cannot become conscious – it is built from outside-in, life evolves and self-builds from inside-out.

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
ive never heard of any abbos trying to claiming other abbo land that was taken in their tribal warfare, but the land whites took on the other hand will always be theirs??? and dna shows the have only been here for about 5000 years, coming from india and they were not the 1st people in australia, the originals were eaten by them.
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TRUTH1488
11 hours ago
Where can I find that james mason podcast
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Tax_Cow
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5 hours ago
Our boomer parents have been hooked on the TV since childhood and they’ve been soaking up jewish propaganda for so long that they aren’t capable of independent thought. Despite whatever their friends and family say, what the TV says is the bottom line. Unwitting agents of our destruction, professing to be enlightened because they watch the talking heads on TV every night.
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Tom, im glad you still give Abos a chunk of land as their own country. African americans & native americans are similar. Thats the best way. I like wat you are doing but im softer on nons. I feel that at this point we may have to give all nons a chunk of western nations, as their own nation. Set cameras up and make documentaries on how they make a clean 1st world society to a 3rd world shithole. Juxtapose it with our first world living. This way we will document in 4D why we will never live with them again. We would play multiple weekly reality TV shows akin ‘Running Man’ & ‘Hunger Games’. This would change our culture. Then we will make museums to store these films and all the injustices we suffered with/from them. Especially the lil caps. Then maybe in the future we might decide to conquer them & retake the land, and put them where we want, maybe isntreal? Or put these brown masses in africa, or somewhere low on resources, since they cant mine them anyway. Tom, I also think 90%+ whyte is a good target. Because the good ones that help us have a reason to. But once we have control we can create policies to reduce their breeding over time: a white centred society; they will admire us or leave; we will be re-morale-ized; etc. If they dont want to accept it, they can always leave. Caramel island is an alternate choice for them too.
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birdhouse456
15 hours ago
The problem with “where is the aboriginal land” is that their concept of it completely different to ours. We look at different metrics. They can’t just pick up and move their culture because it’s linked to place. If they don’t want to give that up they will be motivated to go to war regardless. Or, they’ll just be squeezed out and fade away, because once they are away from their territory the culture doesn’t function. Now we have a hybrid that succeeds at neither way. Maybe there can be agreement with some tribes but others will disappear completely. it’s similar to the clans of the Scottish Highlands. The culture survives, but it’s not what it was.

BossLurker
9 hours ago
Parasites and retards

BossLurker
9 hours ago
The whole “in the past they weren’t truly conservative they were only going off inertia” is actually an extremely good point

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BossLurker
8 hours ago
Around 59:27

leibekohne
5 hours ago
Tom you have some criticism from USA NS bit-chute or odysee. The abos solution is good. I will give them a bare-bush land without any infrastructure, also they have to create own if needed financial system with own currency. This is about purity and recuperation of race thus Australia + has to be 100% white otherwise there will be no progress.Those idiots want to convert abos and save theirs lives but had no problem with murdering 35.000 white Boers woman and children. Cake destroyed Egypt Greek Roman empires by usury and by miscegenation. 1000 year of Romans were destroyed by 100 years of Christianity=Judaism 2.0= children blood drinking sacrificing cannibalism. Germany were destroyed in WW2 by another stupid and manipulated white men who should know better. White international unity.

CrazyRecluse
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56 minutes ago
Tom, I emotionally agree to boot out all leftists, or white antiwhites. But something for you to consider: Richard Spencer says that whites can build because we have all levels of people Elites, managerial class & working class. Dr Ed Dutton “white race functions like a bee hive”. So we might need to select the better ones and put in breeding policies to get them to their 15% balance. Because nearly all managerial class are leftists.

eclipseNF
14 hours ago
More and more blackpilled every single day
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
life is struggle mate, learn to laugh in the face of these demons and keep the sprits of our ancestors lovingly in your heart. heil victory
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trvkvlt
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Thomas Sewell is my rabbi
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drshreddie
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you need a better background, the baby blue with the books isnt working. How about a more masculine color with a NSDAP banner? I know this seems trivial but perception is a big deal and your message is important.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Monika Schaefer: Greetings. Good day. Good afternoon. Hello, wherever you are. Today’s date is August, 24, 2024. This is episode nine of The Flip Side with Monika. And I am your host, Monika Schaefer. Before I introduce today’s guest, I’ll give you the phone numbers to call after the bottom of the hour. We like to invite guests or callers to call in. And those numbers are 512-248-8252 or 1800 313 9443.

 

Okay, today’s guest is Grace Eki Oyama. And I’ll just give you a brief, a story of how I met Grace Eki. And this was back in 2015. So nine years ago almost. I attended the trial, the speech crime trial of Arthur Topham in Quesnel, British Columbia, Canada. And there I met some very interesting people.

 

And one of the people I met was Grace Eki Oyama. And it turns out she had attended other such trials and was very, very knowledgeable in many things.

 

And at that time we were talking about World War Two history, those kinds of things. The kind, the very subject that I got into some trouble with the powers that should not be, the Holocaust subject and all those things. So Grace Eki Oyama has been in this for a long time.

 

And today we’re going to talk about some other subjects a little bit different from that. But I’ll just, before I bring her on, I will just say that in my Chatango site, this is the chat room. And how you can find that chat room, it’s all spelled out The Flipside W Monika. So instead of with. It’s just a W.

 

So the Flipside W Monika Chatango. That’s Chatango. Chatango. Chatango.com. And I posted a video. It’s a five minute short video. It’s called The World Owes Germany an Apology for World War Two. And that’s a video of Grace Eki, who made this very brilliant and succinct little five minute talk, which was this apology.

 

And so I’ll let her talk a little bit about that too, because we were just revisiting that a few minutes ago. But the subject we’re going to talk about today are about musical frequency. And people have probably heard about 440 being the standard tuning for A and many people these days are aware that perhaps 432 might be a better frequency. So that’s one of our subjects.

 

And the other subject, and I had put this into the show notes, if you’re going to find this in the archives, is on the three stages. This is a Japanese philosophy about the three stages of development, childhood development. And I will let her just discuss that at length. So, Grace Eki, are you there?

 

Grace: Yes. Hello, Monika.

 

Monika Schaefer: Welcome.

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Would you like to start about this, the title of that video? Because we just talked about that a few minutes ago.

 

Grace: Yes. Because often it’s not me who put the title, but what I wanted to say. And if you. The idea was war is war. And then I feel that the world does owe an apology for what happened to the Germans, actually, after the war, how they were treated, and also the fact that there is no real official peace treaty, and the expellees, et cetera, et cetera. I think that’s very important for people to know and understand, because it leads away for the problem in what’s happening now in Palestine. There is a similarity, but the fact that it is not known at all, it’s a shame, because it’s things that, oh, including the Nuremberg, which was not a real trial, nor was it very fair.

 

And so that was the part that I wanted people to be at least conscious of.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, thank you for that. Just clarifying that that wasn’t, you know, our main subject today. But it does give the audience, the listener, a little bit of background about first of all, I explained how I met you was at this speech crime trial. And why don’t you give a little bit of a snapshot about background of yourself? I know you’ve done many things. You’ve lived in many places. You’ve been a writer, you’ve been a translator.

 

Can you just give maybe a couple of minutes, a bit of background of yourself?

 

Grace: Well, a couple of minutes.

 

Monika Schaefer: Maybe that’s not possible! [chuckling]

 

Grace: Once we get into the detail, we can go all over. But maybe, just as an honor to my father, I just want to add the fact that my father participated in World War Two. And the fact that he is a martial artist of karate.

 

So I wanted to say that you are brought up in a different environment than if my father was a banker, or a businessman, or a Professor, let’s say. And that was one thing.

 

And then later on, I worked with this researcher, a Japanese researcher who would also make history on his own. But his name is Ryu Ota. And Ota is the one who got me very much interested in, … Well, what really happened was when Eustace Mullins came to Japan, there was a presentation with a professional translator. And the translator, I realized, wasn’t really translating, not accurately. And it was about 9/11. And whatever Mr Mullins was saying, basically, she was translating it the opposite. I almost thought she could be a saboteur. But later on, I understood this, that we, first of all, in Italian they say, “translator traitors”. “Traditore, traditore”. Because it can’t be helped because you can only translate something that you understand. So she wasn’t, I feel, purposely doing that. But from her standard of knowledge and common sense, the alternative so-called conspiratorial theory sounded so absurd, I think she just couldn’t digest it and kind of purified the translation.

 

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Monika Schaefer: Wow! And when you say 9/11, you’re talking about 9/11, the events of September 11, 2001, right?

 

Grace: Correct?

 

Monika Schaefer: To clarify, yes. Oh, that’s very interesting.

 

Grace: Well, he said a lot of interesting things, but she was diluting it down.

 

But anyway, so what I did was I wrote out what Mr Mullins said and what the translator said, and how I would have translated what I feel he really said. And I showed it to Ota. And ever since then, he’s asked me to basically become his translator. And through him, I met really not just Eustace Mullins, but he had more than 13 books by John Coleman translated into Japanese. Now he’s famous for the Committee of Three Hundred. He also, I think, was the first to talk about Bohemian Club and Bilderberg. I was also his translator when David Icke came two times when Ota called David Ike to Japan, for example. And he would have called Webster Tarpley. But unfortunately, he became ill and died. And that was about 2009 anyway.

 

So that taught me very much. That’s how I found out a lot about true history in the West. Yeah, true history in the West.

 

Despite this slogan of “democracy and freedom”, there really wasn’t., … You know, one of the reason about Arthur Topham’s trial is like, do we really have free speech? And ever since I found out about Zundel.

 

Monika Schaefer: Ernst Zundel.

 

Grace: Yes. And when the court in Canada, when the court judged that “truth is no defense”, I was so shocked! Because, well, how else are you expected to defend yourself? Yes, I just found it so absurd!

 

And I think that is, at least in, as far as Canada is concerned, that was when things started to crack. That was like the beginning of the cracking of the justice system.

 

And the other thing is that I really, honestly believe in freedom of speech. Even for your enemies, even for things that you don’t like. Because that’s the only way. I don’t want to sound like cliche, but the only way to peace is through negotiation and through diplomacy and so forth. And it saddens me also to see what is happening with Ukraine and Russia, too.

 

But instead of diplomacy or negotiation, basically a dialogue, it seems that the world has gone mad, and it’s like more money, more arms, more of the things that’s, more sanctions more of the things that’s really not a solution or working!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And I would say the really important element is deception. Right? In all these things that are happening.

 

Grace: Well, like, I think we would all agree that without deception, war is not possible, that war is propaganda!

 

Monika Schaefer: I’ve never heard anybody say it that way. That’s really, really good! That’s profound. I would say. [chuckling]

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

But I also think you have to demonize the enemy, because if you had one drop of sympathy, imagination, or compassion, you really could not have war.

 

So you have to demonize or as an “alien”, I say alien in quotation Mark because it can mean many things, but something so foreign and different and something to be demonized! And I’m sure you would understand.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

And, I mean, otherwise you wouldn’t have all these soldiers going and killing people who look like them, especially all these brother wars. Cousin wars.

 

Grace: Yeah.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. For sure. So, Grac Eki, that’s really very, very good! Thank you. I didn’t know how your beginnings were in translation, but that’s how you met all these people and then learned a lot about true history. And then I know that you were a writer for a while, I think, at the American Free Press.

 

Grace: No. Well, I had a job with them at the Barnes Review for a while, but it was very short. It was work, but that’s how I managed to go to Palestine in Israel.

 

So I am very appreciative of their help at that time.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right, right. Okay. Well, would you, do you feel ready to jump into the first of our subjects that we., … And the reason we’re going to talk about this, people might say:

 

“Well, why? This is kind of unrelated to anything else.”

 

But Gracie spent a few weeks with me a month or so ago, and we, of course, had time to talk about lots of things.

 

And I like to play music, and we talked about these frequencies. And generally, people, the standard tuning is for A is 440.

 

Now, anybody who plays and tunes up their instrument, they’ll know that.

 

Now, we talked about this other frequency, A 432. And I was just delighted and surprised to hear Grace Eki talk about this because you revealed to me that a lot about this.

 

And so I thought:

 

“Oh, well, we have to talk about this on the show.”

 

[chuckling] So tell us a little bit about how did that come to be that this frequency of 440 was pushed upon us. I think that’s what we had talked about when you were here.

 

Grace: But Monika, it’s not always 440. It can be 442. And I have heard of 446, so it isn’t always 440 either. It can even be higher.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, I’ve heard that there are some orchestras that in Europe, for example, who are pushing to have the 442 tuning, and it’s just kind of tightening things up.

 

I feel like it’s tightening up a tight wire and to the bursting point or something. So go ahead and talk about the history, perhaps.

 

Grace: I would also say from 1980 to 85, I was in Italy actually studying music, you see, and around that time, there was also this revival of Baroque music and original instruments.

 

So I was always interested in this. But in order to save time, I will be a little bit practical.

 

I happen to be very, very fond of the Italian composer Verdi. This is also called La Verdiana, meaning Verdi’s A, meaning. He thought this was the best that it should be. This was the best pitch. So I assume that was the pitch he was writing in.

 

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Monika Schaefer: Sorry, which was the best pitch?

 

Grace: Well, it depends how you count it. But basically 432.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: If you want to really get into the science and all this is actually supposed to be like 430.8 or something, but because it depends how you count it from, the, C equals 256.

 

But in order to simplify, I also, later on, I knew, have you ever heard of Schiller Institute in Washington, DC?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: But anyway, there was a politician called Lyndon Larouche and his wife Helga, who is German. She heads the Schiller Institute. They only doer. Music and performances in a A equals 430 or 432. And from their Institute, if you Google, you can see musicians actually performing for you in two different pitch. I was lucky. I tried to look for some of the things that I managed to experience a long time ago, but not everything is on the Internet still, and I couldn’t find it.

 

So I’ll tell you one radio program with Carlo Bergonzi, but he was like the Italian star tenor. And in that radio program, he actually has three, like, graduate students in music singing opera arias in both pitches.

 

And all of them said that it feels so much natural to sing in 432 as opposed to 440. And Bergonzi would explain why he feels that is. I also, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Can you tell us a little bit about that? Why that is? Why does it feel better?

 

Grace: Well, first of all, I think you are getting, apparently the standard for classical music was about 430, 32, definitely until the fifties with Fruk Wengler [sp].

 

Now, you know, there are many people who like retro recordings. Could there be a possibility that the pitch does also influence? Is one.

 

And the other thing is that let’s try to get nearer to the composer’s original intent.

 

And the other thing is that without going into too much detail, we have chest and middle voice and high voice.

 

Now, if you, if the tuning is too high, your voice register changes at the wrong place, and that may not reflect correctly with the words that’s meant to be colored. Before you go and ask me, let me just add, I was also fortunate enough, … So there was a time when these musicians were actually doing presentation, like Norbert Brining. He was like the head of the Amadeus Quartet, and he actually played Bach Partita in two tones right in front of you, and you can feel the difference.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: Now, at the same time, I also want to tell you that there are people who like brilliant, who don’t like, who prefer the more brilliant tilling sounds.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: And, but anyway, Verdi lost. Why? Apparently the Russian military equipments were already tuned higher and it, they can be more penetrating and they can be heard much better at distance. So for like, military bands in the 1800s.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: That was their preferred pitch.

 

Monika Schaefer: I just want to, if I may jump in, for people who have not heard about this and they might think, well, why don’t you just play in a different key? That’s not actually what happens with this different tuning. It’s not just simply playing in a lower key. Like instead of C being C, go to B flat or something. That’s not what’s happening. This frequency is, I would say it’s less than a quarter tone or something. It’s really just a change in frequency. And it literally just is., … It’s something that we, … We all have a vibration. We all have a frequency. Everything around us is vibrating at a frequency. And the 432 frequency for the A is, to my knowledge, a more natural frequency that we simply, our bodies will vibrate more naturally to that.

 

So that’s the important point to make here. Otherwise people will say:

 

“Well, why don’t you just play lower, play in a lower key?”

 

[chuckling]

 

Grace: Just like when you change the tonality, the coloring of the piece changes. It’s a very subtle difference. But I would just say that for people interested, try looking for this kind of experiment that was done where they would switch the pitch, and you can also see what you, how you feel.

 

And as a last comment on this, I want to add that when I changed my piano tuning to 432, my daughter, who was in kindergarten, said:

 

“Much more relaxing!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Grace: That was the key for me.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. So I did that once, Gracie Aki. I paid the piano tuner extra because it took longer, and I got him to tune my piano down to 432.

 

But then my next music jam, when I was asking all the musicians to tune their instruments down the guy with the twelve string guitar, [chuckling] and they didn’t appreciate it! [chuckling] So it didn’t work out. Well, that’s the problem. When we have this standard tuning that everybody’s tuned to and when we’re playing with people, we have to come to the agreement where we’re going to be tuned at. And what about accordions? I mean, all these instruments are tuned to that certain frequency.

 

So that’s a little bit of a, just a technical problem with this.

 

But it’s an interesting subject, and I do hope that maybe we’ll get some callers after the bottom of the hour on that subject.

 

I mean, I don’t want to be sounding like we’re jumping around one subject to another, but I think these things all kind of do relate back to us because it’s like we’re being, you know, damaged or assaulted on all fronts, and this is one of them. I do think that the musical frequencies is just another way that those who wish us harm are, you know, degrading us and this kind of thing. But unless you had something more that you wanted to talk about that.

 

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Grace: Well, yeah, let me ask you, more for people can also try and find things, but 432 mathematically is two to the fourth power times three to the third power. And I have seen documentation how it corresponds with many other amphithegorian numbers.

 

But we don’t have time to really go into that. But I feel like, and before we go into that, let me, can I give you my favorite quote of Mozart, which is that he said:

 

“Music is painted on the canvas of silence.”

 

And that’s the other thing we are lacking. We don’t have enough silence!

 

And the other thing is that I think there is, music is used especially, … How can I explain this? Okay. Records used to, the sound would come in waves.

 

And I’m not so sure about the cassette, but I think it’s still rather relaxing compared to the CDs, all this digital sound, they actually come in square blocks exactly like in the computer screen. If you enlarge it’s made from little squares.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. Pixels and pixels, right?

 

Grace: Correct. And it’s the same thing with music. You break it down into blocks and then you remake it, but it’s in blocks as opposed to waves. This is my personal comment, and I’m very much interested if anybody else ever felt the same, but I don’t listen so much to CDs anymore. It hurts my ear after a while.

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s so interesting. There’s a real resurgence in people buying records. Records, actual records, because it is a different quality of sound. It really is. And I’m sure that many people are nodding their heads as we’re speaking about this. For sure. For sure.

 

And that quote, because I just interrupted just when you were saying it was Mozart, did you say?

 

Grace: Yes. It’s hard to find the original, so I cannot guarantee.

 

But it’s supposed to be something he wrote in a letter.

 

Monika Schaefer: I think it’s very apt. We do need silence, and it’s Sorely lacking. [chuckling]

 

Grace: And [chuckling] the fact that it’s only beautiful because there’s the pause is one. And second. Mozart was like a kind of child prodigy that can say:

 

“Oh, the birds are Twittering in G major.”

 

For example, and I think he could hear natural sounds and decipher them better than many of us.

 

But I think that’s one of the reasons why his work is so eternal. And it seems to, … I’ve read research is how it increases the IQ of children.

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yes.

 

Actually, that’s a very good point. People say if you have Mozarte while you’re studying, you do better on your exams! [chuckling]

 

Grace: Interesting! No? And so but shall I, … Let’s move to the next.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, I just found this was the most interesting thing. And we’ll just have a couple of minutes before the bottom of the hour to touch on, but we’ll continue after the break. But you had talked to me about this Japanese. It’s a philosophy about the three stages of childhood. Go ahead.

 

Grace: It’s like a seven year cycle, but actually it corresponds very well to what Rudolph Steiner felt and thought, at least as far as education is concerned.

 

But this is the way I interpret. Well, in Japan, you are not adult until you are 20.

 

Monika Schaefer: Or 21? No? Because you said three times seven. The seven year cycle. Yes?

 

Grace: Well, although let’s say in the year that you will be 21, you are officially an adult. And it seems strange because if it’s just physical, you seem to have matured much earlier on. But apparently research has shown that human brain takes that long to genuinely finish maturing and growing, 20 years.

 

And the other thing I was trying to say is that, okay, for the first seven years, you’re just growing physically and you need a lot of physical activity. And then seven from 14, then you get your education in grammar and the basis. And then from, like, 14 till later, it’s, I think it corresponds to the classical concept of rhetoric. You know, grammar first, dialectic first, and then rhetorics. But it also, I don’t know exactly where and how I got this idea, but you’re physically, maybe even a 14, 15, you’re more or less done.

 

But as far as the concept of philosophy, physics, abstraction, spirituality, that kind of realm, you really don’t understand, you have to be at least 14, more or less. You know, we all have, like, I’m not talking about child prodigies or exceptional people. But usually it takes that long for you to really start to have that kind of capability to comprehend.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, it’s like the philosophical, the spiritual development, all of those things start after maturing.

 

We’ll come back after the break, Grace Eki, and you can discuss some of the factors that are stalling those processes. So please stick around and we’ll be back after the break.

 

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Monika Schaefer: All right, welcome back. That music is so beautiful! And it just makes me think of what you just told me about before World War Two, anyway, that it would have been commonplace for families in Europe and Germany to be playing chamber music together after supper, after dinner.

 

And can you imagine the enrichment that provided in their lives as opposed to being stuck in front of a screen.

 

But anyway, before we go on with our discussion, I’m just going to remind the listener, if you have the means, please, please do support the Republic broadcast broadcasting network.

 

And if you go to the website, there will be all the information there. There’s still the special on T-shirt that’s still going on right through September. A special T-shirt? I would say if you do, I think it’s a $100 donation.

 

And if you don’t have the means, there are other ways you can help this network, and that is by sharing these programs. And you can do that anyway, even if you are supporting financially or support the sponsors. Yeah. So this is not mainstream. We have such a we’re very fortunate to have the Republic Broadcasting Network so that we can speak freely and speak truth.

 

Okay. So we were going to get onto these three stages of development and this third stage, which is critically important, but it’s less visible to the eye because the physical growth has happened. And the learning, a lot of the learning is in school, like, you were talking about the grammar and this, that.

 

But this other thing that happens, it’s like philosophical spiritual development that comes in that third stage, does it not? And we had talked about, what are some of the things that could arrest that development? This is the critical part. Go ahead.

 

Grace: Well, like, I’ll put it bluntly. Sexualization! Over sexualization at a young age.

 

Now, the West is theoretically at least a Christian country.

 

And I think it’s somewhere in the Bible or the New Testament. Doesn’t it say something like:

 

“Children should not see wicked things.”

 

Or do you know?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, no, I’m not familiar with, did you say a Bible verse?

 

Grace: But, anyway, innocence should be protected and childhood should be protected. It’s like you don’t offer a cigarette to a six year old.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right? No! And what are we seeing in the schools? I mean, this is a subject that we talk about often. I’ve talked about it before, the hyper sexualization, and it is shocking what is going on in the schools. And this is a direct attack on us, on our people, on our children. And my goodness, it’s beyond even just exposure. It’s like downright, you know, poisoning of the minds. And then even physical like:

 

“Oh, yeah, you don’t feel like a girl today. You want to take these hormone puberty blocking things and, oh, well, oh, well, just. Sure, we can cut off that penis!”

 

I mean, it is just over the top, outrageously bad what is going on! And I mean, it already, it started a while back, but now it’s just accelerated to beyond belief! And, you know what you say:

 

“Okay, there’s hypersexual or over sexualization of children at too young, of age.”

 

This arrests, arrests their emotional development.

 

Grace: And many other things. And it’s like, I think this was the metaphor I gave to you. It’s like you cannot force open a flower to blossom while it’s in the bud. You would damage it forever! You have to have patience, and it has to grow. Everyone, basically, personally, you have to discover so-called sex or sexuality in some ways on your own, because the internal makings of a human being is far more complicated. And you have to let it blossom in quotation Mark “naturally”, because we have been so cut off from nature. So everyone has to kind of figure it out by refining their instinct.

 

But it’s just like children can mimic words to appear sophisticated, but to have had the experience to back it up.

 

And frankly, there was a Japanese writer that said he feels sorry for the younger generation of Japanese because in Japanese there is a word for “love”, and there is another word specifically for “falling in love”. And he said that children have no time, basically, to discover that mysterious emotion of falling in love, for example.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: And the other thing is you know why I think the other thing is, in childhood you must play a lot!

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: It’s very important. Well, one of the things, and also you can’t, I think, the way they keep the children so occupied. So yeah. Because sometimes you must have a lot of breathing space and you must sometimes even be bored for you to become creative. I wonder if that’s an oxymoron.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, you’re absolutely right! I’ll just tell you, the German word for “boredom” is “Langeweile”, which literally means “long while”.

 

So it’s a completely different meaning on that. And I love that.

 

But, you know what? We have a couple of callers on the line.

 

Kathleen: Yes.

 

Monika Schaefer: And let’s take Kathleen from Texas.

 

Hello, Kathleen, are you there?

 

Kathleen: Hey, Monika and Grace. A great show. And I called because I heard an author interviewed about ten years ago, maybe on RBN, and he wrote a book called the “440 Conspiracy”. And it was all about. I heard him interviewed several times. It was very interesting. And he had said many of the things you’re talking about, but he was talking about that 432 was actually what everybody played before the Rockefeller changed it to all the marching bands of the horns were all made with the 440. And it was unnerving, and it was very good to get people nervous and upset about going to war or something.

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, is that something? So that sounds like a good book. Grace Eki, are you familiar with that book?

 

Grace: No, I don’t know that book. So thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Who was the author, please?

 

Kathleen: I don’t know that. I don’t remember the author’s name, but it was called, The 440 Conspiracy.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’m gonna write that down and I’m gonna look that up. That’s great!

 

Kathleen: It was about ten years ago, so.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, thank you. Do you have any additional comments?

 

Kathleen: No, I love your show. I mean, I heard you for a long time before you had the show. And you just been great. So I’ve enjoyed every one. And thank you so much!

 

Monika Schaefer: Thank you so much, Kathleen, for your call.

 

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Kathleen: Yes. Oh, I loved it when you said that you’re an ice skater in the wild. [chuckling]

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Kathleen: Wild skating. Oh, that’s so great.

 

And then all of your music, it’s wonderful! And, Grace, I really appreciated everything that you said, too.

 

Grace: Okay. So thank you so much!

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, thank you for your call. Okay. So, Mr producer, could we please have Nightingale on line three? Are you there?

 

Nightingale: Yes. Monika, can you hear me?

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes, we can. Thank you. Would you like to add a comment or question?

 

Nightingale: Thank you so much! I’m overjoyed to meet you. I want to say it’s an honor to meet such a brave, talented, honorable lady. Thank you so much! Just a fact that you play the music for your bumper music. I said, wow, RBM is getting classy. Fun! [chuckling] It was so beautiful! What a change. Usually I shut the bumpers off. Some of the host I listen to, I run to the phone and say:

 

“I don’t want to hear that!”

 

And I wait till the ads and the music are gone. [chuckling]

 

But with you, …

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s sweet of you. Thank you. Did you have any questions or comments for your guest, Grace Eki?

 

Nightingale: Yes, yes, I’m getting there. This has been fascinating! I just turned it on. Sometimes I listen live, sometimes it doesn’t work for me. I’m always on the cell phone, but sometimes it does a bit, and I turn it on just when your wonderful guest, her name is Grace. She’s been very, very personal to me. What I heard, very fascinating! She talked about a beautiful., … It was a beautiful anecdote. She thinks it’s from Mozart. That “music is painted on the canvas of silence”.

 

And I wanted to add that that is so beautiful, because it’s not just music, but it’s, I think, pretty much everything. Mystic experiences, the feeling of sacred is also. Everybody talks about it. All the mystics are on the, come out of silence. Even our myths of creation come out of silence. Things were “created by the word”, Elvero Incarnado, which is Spanish. What is it, the word incarnate? I don’t know if that’s that. But yeah, but it’s sound. Started creating the manifest world, I guess.

 

So this is very, very beautiful. And I heard many beautiful things. I heard the comment about spirituality, Rudolf Steiner ideas, spirituality developed later on.

 

But I have to say that I have to disagree with that a bit because I had, personally, some very mystical experiences. A very, very young child. And they did start going away. I totally agree with the over sexualization, because I think that’s when they started going away for me. Sex was just very much in my face with the world I lived in, my parents, and a lot of violence and jealousy! [chuckling] And it was always sad for me as a very young child.

 

But then when I hit puberty, I was very, very curious, and I did naughty things. You know, I wanted to see what this wonderful thing was. Right? And I learned that it wasn’t what it was touted to be. If love is not involved, if the falling in love, like you mentioned, but it can be a lot of fun. But it’s not falling in love. That’s a totally different thing.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Nightingale: This has been very personal, what you were speaking of, because, yes, I had a, as a very young person before I was into sex, you might say, I had even incredible out of body experience, which I will always cherish. I hope that just before I die, I get there again, because it was like total unity.

 

I don’t know if you guys ever felt that, but the only experience I’ve ever had that I reserved the word “bliss” for. And it was just, it was just fascinating because I was totally not there. But you’re in everything when you exist, I guess, what people call a cosmic consciousness. And it was this overwhelming, powerful light that was so incredibly beautiful.

 

But then I was, it was going to annihilate me, which is a very mystery because I was not there, and yet I felt totally annihilation. And somewhere, I guess I was very young, somewhere in the body, I guess I wasn’t ready to go. And I was at the moment, so I realized that fear the root of all our issues, because it was fear that brought me back into the body. And then I felt so horrible to be back in the cave, and I just hated myself for being a coward! But someday maybe it’ll come back and I’ll be ready too.

 

Monika Schaefer: That’s an incredibly profound experience. Thank you for sharing that, Grace Aki, do you have any comments about it?

 

Nightingale: Well, it has a lot. Yes. It relates to everything you’re speaking of and I think I was lucky enough, even though I did have a very turmoil, not very happy household growing up. And yet my father did play classical music, and so I was imprinted with that. And it was the old vinyls, I must say! [chuckling]

 

And I think that is what, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Sorry, go ahead. Grace, did you want to comment on that.

 

Grace: Yes. That I wanted to say. I agree with her. You know, silence is the base of everything. And she was saying the Bible, I think. No, sorry the Testament in the beginning was the word, and word was “God”, but the word is “vibration with intent”. And I do kind of agree and with silence will show how important this intent and so-called vibration is, even more in the future.

 

And as speaking, I just wanted to make a comment as far as the frequency is concerned. You know those famous water crystals?

 

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Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Grace: Photographed. Well, if it’s the ones I have seen anyway, at A 432, it actually makes a flower. At A 4040, it makes the outline. It’s different.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes. And it scrambles it, doesn’t it? That’s what I’ve seen and heard.

 

Grace: Oh, it’s not as beautiful as 432. 432 definitely looks like a flower.

 

Monika Schaefer: Isn’t that something?

 

Grace: Yeah. Interesting!

 

Monika Schaefer: So, Nightingale, did you want to make a quick final comment? And then we’ll let you go, and I really appreciate that you called in and shared a your story with us. Yes, Nightingale.

 

Grace: Oh, perhaps she’s already gone.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, so let’s have John in New Hampshire, please. Are you there? Okay, yeah, that’s great! You see, this is such an interesting subject. I find it just fascinating! And the vibrations, the music, and then, of course, this. Go ahead.

 

John: Hello? Am I on?

 

Monika Schaefer: You are on. Is this John?

 

John: Right, right. Okay. Thanks a lot, ladies. That Grace perked me up because when she mentioned Verdi, I was born in the same province as Giuseppe Verdi, Parma. I was very, very happy to hear that. And I’m wondering maybe, hopefully, maybe I can get in touch with her. And I got some interesting stuff.

 

So maybe somehow we can get connected through you, Monika, or through the board. I don’t mean to be rude, but I also would like to see if I could get in touch with Kathleen from Texas. I’ve been trying to get in touch with her, too. So maybe through the board op or something. But if you could call back in, or I could leave my number or something like that.

 

But anyway, yeah, this is a very fascinating conversation. And that, Grace, you’re a pretty amazing, remarkable woman!

 

And, I mean, I love my Italian heritage and I love, … I was born in Parma, but I was only 14 months when I came to this country. But most of my relatives still live in Italy. So maybe we can get in touch or something like that. But anyway. Okay, see what you can do.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I’ll just tell you how you can get in touch with me. My email address is posted on RBN. If you go to the host the page where they have my brief bio and that kind of thing. There is a, an email address posted there. Okay. So you could get in touch with me and then I could send your, I’ll get you connected with Grace.

 

John: Okay, I appreciate that. Do you think that would be a good way to get in touch with Kathleen from Texas?

 

Monika Schaefer: I have no idea. You’ll have to perhaps take that up with the producer. [chuckling]

 

John: Okay, great!

 

Monika Schaefer: So, yeah, and if you have a brief comment, final comment, because we have a couple of more callers on the line.

 

John: No, no, no, I’ll go, I’ll defer to them.

 

Monika Schaefer: So if that was John, thank you so much for your call. We have John from California.

 

Another John, are you there?

 

John: Yeah. So 528. I don’t know what, you know, about it. Good frequency or bad frequency?

 

Monika Schaefer: I don’t know. That’s a good question. Grace Eki, do you know, this 528?

 

Grace: I think it’s like you. Continue. I think it’s just a, C higher.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, I don’t know. I think I’ve heard things about it that are actually kind of terrifying about it, but I don’t know. I’m not sure. [chuckling] What do you know, about it, John?

 

John: Yes, well, I don’t know a lot about it. I know that it’s titled. There’s a guest, I won’t use names that comes on this RBN that claims it to be a love frequency. But I’ve heard from others that it’s a not so much.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. This is something we’re gonna have to do some more research on. Maybe the next caller will know. [chuckling]

 

Grace: But let me add that everything has a plus and a minus, the yin and the yang. So something that’s positive in one sense is possible, that it’s very, quite negative in another sense. But I’ve heard of this number. I think it was just, 2056 that you keep on going higher up. But I could be wrong.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay. John, did you have anything like to add?

 

John: Well, yeah, I don’t know a lot about it. Supposedly it’s called Esophageal [sp]. I don’t know if I pronounced it correctly, which was something that was kind of in Rome, they had this thing kind of under wraps for a long time. And supposedly someone got a hold of this following. It’s supposed to come from the Bible and, …

 

Anyway, I just wondered what you knew about it. But thank you very much. Great show.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay. Thank you for your call. Let’s take Chris from Alabama. And we really literally have just, 20 seconds left or so. chris, are you there?

 

Chris: Yeah. Hi, Monika. Sometimes when I have more time. I’m Chris from Alabama. I moved here from California along. I live in California. Born there in 57, married a Canadian woman in 88, and she’s lived in the United States for all this time. We’ve been to Canada many times. British Columbia.

 

Monika Schaefer: Did you have something for our guests?

 

Chris: That book is called The 440 Enigma, and it’s basically trying to blame the 440 frequency on a collaboration between the Rockefellers and the Nazis. And it has a swastika on the cover of it. And like everything else, they want to blame everything on the Nazis! I’m just adding that right now.

 

Monika Schaefer: Ha! Thanks for that. It does sound like we know that they’re lying to us about who are the “Nazis”, quote, unquote, and what they did and all that stuff. So that’s a little bit suspect, isn’t it? And the producer did write in the notes. Maybe it’s The 440 Enigma by LC Vincent.

 

Grace. Do you have a final comment? Just while the music is taking us out?

 

Chris: It’s a pleasure listening to you.

 

Grace: Yes. I wanted to say that, remember that your voice is the free gift of so-called God and nature, an instrument you already have inside and so is your body. And I think it’s in our DNA to love, to dance and sing, and it should help one when one that’s not really so happy. Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Beautiful! Thank you for being my guest, and thank you to all the callers. Thank you very much.

 

Monika Schaefer: And thank you to the producer, too. Awesome job!

 

Grace: Thank you.

 

Monika Schaefer: Keeping everybody straight. Okay, bye bye.

 

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Joel Davis: We are live.

 

Another show. It is the 20th of June, 2024.

 

Another evening in racism for all of our Australian friends and a morning in racism for our American friends. And that we do have a lot of American viewers, but this is a show about Australian politics usually, and we’ll be talking about things very Australian this evening. The three of us attended quite an interesting event last night. We’re going to probably spend a lot of time talking about that.

 

But before we get into that subject, I guess it would be customary to do a little bit of small talk while people fill up the chat and so on.

 

So do you have any irritations, Blair, to report on what has been grinding your gears over the past week? Because usually you come up with funny little things to be annoyed by and it can be quite humorous.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, yeah, I’m a king of small talk. Speaking of small talk, though, we’re not going to be reading out most Superchats during the stream this time or this week because after I did that last week, I had an avalanche of complaints saying:

 

“Blair, you’re interrupting the flow of the conversation!”

 

I’m like, fuck!

 

All right, so we’ll do Superchats at the end, unless, look, it’s going to be at my discretion.

 

Joel Davis: Do it at breaks in topics, I think. Yeah, I think it was a break in a topic. It’s all right.

 

But yeah, don’t interrupt yourself, or a subject to interject with it because usually Superchats, quite frivolous.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right.

 

But like I said, it’ll be at my discretion.

 

So if I see one that I really do want to include in the conversation, I’ll do it.

 

Joel Davis: If you send a good Superchat that’s actually relevant to what’s being discussed, then, yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: If it’s relevant, I think it should be mentioned on the spot. But if it’s like:

 

“What’s your favorite Claude Van Damme movie?”

 

Then maybe at the end.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. I’ve been thinking a lot about the event we went to be honest, and I’ve been thinking about what happened there, just interpreting everything, trying to come to a conclusion about it.

 

So, look, I haven’t really got it in me to be ranting too much about anything frivolous. We can do that. As the show progresses, I’m sure something’s going to come to mind, something that irritates me.

 

Joel Davis: I feel like. I think the people at home have noticed, like, Blair has changed. We’ve gone into a new phase of Blair ever since, particularly the laptop. You just seem so much more energised about nationalism and politics.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s you guys. It’s the audience as well. We get so much engagement on this. And you, Joel, you got a positive attitude. Tom’s always fighting. Everyone’s always positive. It’s just white pilled me, man. I gotta say. It’s white pilled me. It’s brought me back. So thanks, guys. You’ve brought me back. Your energy, your support, it’s got me believing again.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s real.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s real.

 

Thomas Sewell: Cause I know you, and that’s real. I don’t know if the audience wouldn’t know how real that is the audience would be like, yeah, like, Blair kind of dropped off a little bit, kind of had a break, or kind of was like focused on Covid, and people would be like:

 

“Oh, now he’s back.”

 

But they don’t know, like, because when you’re someone’s friend, you can feel what they. What they’re feeling. You have that empathy going through upf and how bright you’ve burned. Like, you were just this charging Aryan fire of this Germanic, Celtic youth spirit of the country and that. No one ever talks about how much energy that actually requires. You know what I mean? Like people think all players just built like.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like that.

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s just built like that it’s like:

 

“Well, yeah, he is, because, …”

 

Blair Cottrell: He can do it, but only no.

 

Thomas Sewell: One really, energy that actually your whole life force, your whole life energy was like hundred percent. Like, people don’t realize what a hundred percent dedication is unless they saw you for that 18 month or two year period. Yeah, it was like a sprint. It was like an uphill sprint for almost two years straight.

 

Blair Cottrell: And I loved it! I loved one of our old supporters who Tom. He was at this event we attended last night. And I had him on camera, actually I posted some footage earlier today. He asked me, do. Do you miss it, Blair? Do you miss the activism? And I honestly answered, yes.

 

There’s nothing about it that I miss so much as the struggle, the fights, constantly, every day, having more to do, more content to make, more to promote, more to organize, more to show up to. Look, I am back. I’m still back from the standpoints that I’m going to provide a sort of median level of commentary. You know, I’m going to create a pipeline. You know what I’m like, right? I want to keep it clean and I want to observe. That’s what I’m back to do more than anything. Just observe and contribute where necessary.

 

But, yeah, thanks, everyone, for your support. And I want to get right into this event that happened last night because.

 

Joel Davis: I want to make one brief comment on what you said.

 

I think it’s very important to meditate on the notion that fighting is funnier than winning, that the struggle is actually more enjoyable than the victory. This is what Nietzsche was getting at with this concept of the “will to power” and “to love one’s fate” and so on.

 

And his philosophy was this insight that actually the struggle is what is most enjoyable, the process. And that sometimes the worst thing that can ever happen to you is to achieve something, and then you don’t know what to do next.

 

And so it’s so important to have something that you’re actually fighting for with your life so that you can actually be enjoyable. Nothing else is more enjoyable than taking it to the enemy on a daily basis and feeling like everything that you’re doing is imbued with meaning and purpose.

 

And I think from observing you, from meeting you a year and a half ago, a bit longer now to now, and seeing just kind of being your friend for that period of time, what I noticed was, I think you got really demoralized by Covid. But what seemed to demoralize you even prior to that, was just like the way that the state came after you and your previous projects fell apart. And this sense of the movement basically entering into a phase where it was no longer on upward trajectory.

 

I mean, Tom was doing his thing with his organization, but Tom was then in jail for ages. And after the Brenton Tarrant* shooting and the way that the state cracked down upon the movement and the media, basically locked everybody out. It was a time when you could actually be part of the public conversation.

 

[* The Christchurch mosque shootings were two consecutive mass shootings on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand on 15 March 2019. They were committed by Brenton Tarrant who entered both mosques during Friday prayer, firstly at the Al Noor Mosque at 1:40 pm and later at the Linwood Islamic Centre at 1:52 pm Tarrant was arrested after his vehicle was rammed by a police unit as he was driving to a third mosque in Ashburton. Source: Wikipedia]

 

Then you were locked out, you dragged through the courts on bullshit charges. People, I’m sure, know the story, but the point is that all of that really worked quite successfully and all the de-platforming and so on, it worked quite successfully to completely destroy what you were doing.

 

And then, you know, it seemed like you were. I don’t mean like lost in life, but you didn’t have that same reason to get up every morning that you did for a few years, you had reasons to get up, but it wasn’t quite the same. Like, you weren’t on a mission, you went on a quest for the Grail, and, like, every day there’s things coming at you and you’re batting off enemies and trying to, like, force things into being and, well, it’s interesting to.

 

Blair Cottrell: Get that outside perspective of what it seemed like someone just dropped something.

 

But look, I’m kind of getting used to where everything’s at in terms of tempo, what kind of content I should be creating, where I should be, when I should be there. Things have changed, you know, things have changed since I’ve actually wanted to influence people or to provide a positive influence in the community. I’ve always denied my humanity.

 

I don’t know if you guys can relate to this, or maybe the audience can. I’ve always thought I don’t need to do everything that every other human needs to do. I think I’ve spoken about this on the stream once before, but in a different subject matter and in a different way.

 

What I mean is, I used to think to myself, I don’t need to believe in anything. I don’t need to serve any purpose. I’m not weak enough to have to believe in something. That’s a human weakness. I’m going to transcend that.

 

But I don’t think it is a weakness to need to believe in something. Because believing in something is what gives you the energy, the motivation, the dedication to dedicate yourself entirely to something that you feel is important, that you feel is greater than yourself. And honestly, what is there that’s more important than your nation, your extended ethnic community and its continued existence? You know that is just like the precipice that is the peak of all things that could be important in my mind. And anyone who tries to tell me I’m evil for believing that, like, cheque yourself. Because why am I evil for wanting to protect and promote my own ethnic community group? Right?

 

Joel Davis: Well, is that off? Hitler said, the most precious thing in this world is your people. And that’s one of the truest things the great man ever said. I do want to read out a Superchat. I’m going to break the rules because White Power said:

 

“Joel, why did you slander Gigachad Mussolini?”

 

This is referring to, I guess, a Twitter comment that I left underneath a sun and radical edit. And it was this really incredible sun and rat edit.

 

I might actually pull it up and play it for you guys a bit later at the end of the show. Maybe we can analyse it, but it’s just got ancient Rome stuff mixed with Hitler stuff and it’s cool song. It’s like a funk remix of Seven Nation Army by the White Stripes.

 

And then at the end, they put a couple, like, Mussolini clips in, and I said:

 

“I’m gonna rate it nine out of ten. It was ten out of ten.”

 

And then this Mussolini. And I like Mussolini, but he’s not Hitler. You know, there’s levels. There’s levels to this. And people took it as me hating on Mussolini and saying that he’s not White and Italians aren’t White and so on.

 

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Blair Cottrell: Tell us one, tell us one good thing. Tell us one great thing about Mussolini and one thing that’s really not so good, because I don’t even know much about Mussolini.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, obviously Mussolini was a great, like, he’s an incredible political innovator. I mean, he invented fascism. Uh, the way in which they, he orchestrated his political movement. It was incredible!

 

I mean, there’s a lot to respect about him. The demeanour of the guy. He’s got this kind of energy that’s just quite humorous. He’s just got that bravado, this really excessive, cartoonish bravado, but it’s very endearing.

 

The thing that I like least about Mussolini is that basically the fascist movement, while it was cool in so many respects, I’m not saying that I don’t like fascism, but it did lack the centrality of race that National Socialism had or that I would personally put within my politics. And I can understand why. Because in Italy, there wasn’t, like one cohesive, central ethnic identity. You know, northern Italian, southern Italians are quite different.

 

And so there was a sense that fixating too much upon race would alienate, you know, one half of the country from the other, differentiate them. And the whole idea was coming together in the unity of Italy.

 

But I think that that’s problematic. I think maybe if you have a country that’s built around such a large racial difference maybe that’s an incorrect way to design a country.

 

But there was a greater emphasis upon state power.

 

And while I do agree that authoritarian state power is something that should be used for good and can be used for good, I don’t think it is the be all and end all. It’s about what it’s being used for.

 

Whereas fascism kind of gives this notion that state power is kind of an end in itself, that just like, the centralization of the will in the state is itself just a grand thing. And I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. I mean, also, the Italian fascists were kind of soft on the jews. They did get harsher on the jews toward the end when they were trying to cosy up to the Germans.

 

Because you have to understand as well, the fascists and the Germans only became allies only a few years before the war. Mussolini was trying to ally himself with the Brits and with the French. To be fair, he was actually trying to bring everyone together in Europe and create a pan-European alliance against the Soviet Union and other non-European countries, which I think was a good idea. I think Mussolini was right to try and do that it’s a shame that he didn’t pull it off, but it was complex.

 

Like, people kind of see fascism and National Socialism as exactly the same thing in this one unified movement, but that actually is ahistorical. And Mussolini was seen in a positive light by European jewry and other European elements that were quite against the National Socialists in the early 1930s as, like, a positive alternative or something that wasn’t so racist and anti-semitic and so on.

 

So I think that says a lot, but that doesn’t mean that I hate Mussolini or I have zero respect for Mussolini. No, I think fascism has no cool ideas. It does. It was obviously a movement of the Right. It was a movement that was against communism.

 

So obviously that makes it fundamentally good. Anything that destroys communism is good, and it had many good elements. And it wasn’t like they were totally. They weren’t like, opening the borders, the brown and black immigrants or anything.

 

So it wasn’t like they were totally, like, cucked on race to some totally unacceptable degree without destroying their, like, what’s happening now to Italy and the rest of other Western countries.

 

So, it’s a nuanced thing.

 

It’s like I don’t hate fascism or Mussolini, but also I don’t revere them as highly as I or him or revere the fascist Italian state as highly as I revere other things.

 

But anyway, we managed to do a little bit of small talk, so I succeeded.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s Joel’s version of small talk, guys. That’s what we deal with down here in Melbourne. So, like I said, though, I’d like to jump onto talking about the event that happened last night. All three of us were there. What did you guys think?

 

Joel Davis: I’ll let Tom go first.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I do you plan on uploading the interview you did with me, just out of curiosity? It depends on how I answer the question, because I won’t double up on that if you’re going to., …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I won’t probably get it up until after the weekend because I am travelling up to Brisbane, well, just below Brisbane tomorrow morning. I’ve had work today. I only had time to get that little quick clip up. And my intention with that clip was just to., … It’s the same every time. I’d make content in the past as well, to normalize the people who are in attendance, because they’re going to be slandered eventually as Right-wing crack, far-Right neo-Nazi conspiracy theorists, just to show that it’s regular working people that go.

 

But more than anything, that there are people who attend events like this in quite large numbers, that it’s not something that’s niche and fringe and only a few people are sitting around a table. There’s hundreds of people that are interested in these things, in these talking points, and I think it’s really important to get that across to anyone who’s interested, because I think what holds people back from participating in politics like this is they think that no one else is doing it.

 

So it’s really important, I think, just to get those visual messages out there to help everyone understand that there’s a lot of people who care about their country, there’s a lot of people who want to do something about the corrupt establishment. But I already got takes from both you guys on camera, but is there anything that you want to talk about specifically? I mean, I got there early. People were rocking up like a good 45 minutes early. That’s when I arrived. I didn’t think I’d get there that early. I ended up leaving work early, had coffee, something to eat, heard the opening speeches, spoke to Matt Trihey again. And Tom and I have both worked for Matt Trihey. He’s a builder down here in Melbourne.

 

Joel Davis: He’s the guy who organized the event, by the way, for the benefit.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I should have mentioned that. Sorry. Yeah, but that’s.

 

Joel Davis: His organization is called the Australian Workers Alliance, [National Workers Alliance] I believe. National workers, all national workers are.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sorry, my apologies, but NWA, the new boys in the Hood. Tom.

 

Thomas Sewell: Weakness with attitude.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s a good guy.

 

Joel Davis: Well, they’re not wignats, though. Hey. They’re not wignats. Very optical, very good. Very good optics.

 

And also, I think the website is workers.org dot au for those who want to go and check out their website. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: And, yeah, you can. I can assess that. This guy’s character, like, I. He’s a better man than me. He’s a hard worker. This guy has dedicated his whole life to providing the highest level of building services to specific clientele. And people seek him out to build high quality homes for them, like, high end homes. I’ve done stuff on his jobs that I never thought I’d do, like, spiral staircases. And I learned how to sort of assemble and use a concrete hole corer, by myself. I worked with steel, a lot of steel and concrete, which is not something that I experienced very much before working for Mattie Trihey.

 

But the fact that he put this event on is awesome, and it was really good to talk to him again. Bit of a blast from the past, actually. Running in swim. How long has it been since you’ve seen him, Tom?

 

Thomas Sewell: Recently? I’ve seen him in the city. When we do our protests, they organize in the city as well. So every protest that we did we would cross paths with them.

 

Blair Cottrell: Mattie Trihey, he’s been involved in protests in the city leading up to this event that he just hosted. Is that right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So he was involved with the Freedom Rally organizers, and I believe that the main group of Freedom Rally organizers were doing, like, welcome to countries. And they were doing the whole liberal outlook on being anti-Covid. So not freedom because there are ancient rights, not freedom because it’s about respect. And that we’re like a noble people and we’re not to be treated by the State. That’s meant to serve us as a bureaucratic function. You know, people weren’t arguing from that angle. A lot of the anti-vaxxers were arguing, like, from this. They would do a “Welcome to Country” for Aboriginals. First they would talk about how this is infringing on these poor and disadvantaged groups, and they were coming from the weak position, not the strong position.

 

So obviously, that was going to create a natural split with a more Right-wing version of the anti-vax movement. And that’s what he’s led since day one.

 

Blair Cottrell: So the event organizer, Maddy Trihey, what we’re saying, what you’re saying there is he was involved in the anti-vax kind of freedom rallies that took place in Melbourne. Was he a director? I don’t think he was a direct organizer. I think he attended the rallies himself and then gradually became a prominent figure through giving speeches and networking.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s what all of them were. None of them were leaders. Who are these guys? What was it like, Harrison and all these people, have you. Had you ever heard of them before?

 

Blair Cottrell: I suppose they are truly grassroots guys. Like, these are people who come from salt of the earth working class. They’re not people who are raised in the universities in order to be professional politicians. Right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

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Thomas Sewell: So, like, when UPF started, there was a lot of people, old heads in the movement, that were quite skeptical of us because they were like, who are these guys? Where have these guys come from? Like we were kind of getting accusations and that we weren’t innate grassroots, because we went from just random people on the street, not involved in politics, to political leaders just overnight.

 

So I think Covid was no different. It was another wave. Every time there’s chaos, there’s a new wave of potential political leaders that sort of just appear out of the ether. Not in a bad way, just in a way.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, my general consensus on the event itself is you could tell that it was kind of thrown together, but it was organized as well as it could have been. Probably given the experience of the people who are organizing it. I can’t really throw too much shade on it. Like, there was food, we ran out of water, but everything else was great. The speeches were good. The event went for about four. You run out of beer too? Yeah, right.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, we didn’t run out of beer.

 

Thomas Sewell: Hall energy to it, just.

 

Joel Davis: It did a good Polish beers. You know, it’s hard to find Polish beer in Australia. It was a nice change.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s even harder to find a hall full of sensible men who want to talk about politics. That’s just not something you find in Australia.

 

So it was a really different evening, one that I wish we could have more often. I wish every week, like on Wednesday night, for example, or Friday night, we could go to a hall, have a few drinks and just talk about the state of the country and what we’re going to do about it. I think that was a very common state of circumstances for pre-war Germany and even Germany after the war. I think that’s what men and everywhere.

 

Thomas Sewell: Even the Anglo-sphere, there was a culture. After work, there would be these huge gatherings at the pub, not like it is now, where it’s later in the night and, it’s people just going out of party and get absolutely sloshed. People would go straight from work.

 

So they’re still kind of in this functioning political mode versus there wasn’t a, …

 

Joel Davis: Bunch of Pokemon TVs with the footy on and people betting on sports and music playing over, like, because they didn’t have the technology for any of that stuff yet.

 

So people would go to the pub and they’d sit around and talk or they’d sing, they’d sing songs as well. That used to be common in pubs. We don’t do that anymore. That’s why in Europe they’ve got this like singing culture that we don’t have here because it’s a legacy from how pub culture was before televisions and you know, like modern technology was developed and so, yeah, like it used to be this hub of the community where there would be a genuine exchange of ideas and obviously that was a kind of political focal point in a town and that no longer really exists.

 

But I mean I think you’re under selling it, Blair. Like the fact that this was their first ever event and they got over 300 people, maybe 400 people to their event, I think is incredible! I mean how often do people get that kind of numbers to a very large, like numbers that large to their first ever event?

 

And it’s like this guy is like a big, you know, political commentator and he’s been in the movement like he’s an activist and obviously that’s how he got these people here because he’s a kind of experienced activist but he isn’t like this super well known guy or anything.

 

So the fact that he could mobilize that is testament I think, to really, really high quality, just like grassroots organizing.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s respect. It’s not just high quality organization, it’s respect. People respect Matt Trihey, people respect Nick Patterson. People are interested in hearing what Damien Richardson has to say. Damien Richardson’s a great speaker, by the way. I can see why people want to listen to him. The way he delivers his points makes his analogies fantastic! He could have been a comedian. Maybe he’s tried to do that in the past. He seems like he has some experience in that, which is fantastic!

 

Joel Davis: He was an actor, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: And then comedians and actors are kind of the same branch on the same tree, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s got a lot of animation. He’s certainly very passionate and I think that’s a genuine passion. I don’t think he’s actually acting. I think he’s got the experience of being able to inject unique energy and there were times where he was funny. Like it was actually really enjoyable to watch and it is rare to be able to successfully do that. So he’s definitely a talent, he’s definitely a leader, on the rise. It’s interesting.

 

Blair Cottrell: Most of them, even more rare is hearing so much Australian, Australian TV personality speak openly and with sympathy in regards to White Australia. You just don’t see that very often. And that was really refreshing.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he’s definitely a model. Like a role model in that sense where so many of these actors and celebrities and people within I guess that privileged class, obviously he’s been booted from the class now as he was saying in a speech, he’s working in construction now, which is, I mean that’s all dissidents go basically. Yeah, we’re, basically, we’re all like:

 

“I’m in construction now as well!”

 

I mean people that knew me when I joined the movement, I was almost the first one of the furthest, because the army is very, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Who would have thought though? Who would have thought? Honest men have to do honest work.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, exactly! It’s cosmic! It’s beautiful! Yeah, it is. I was actually thinking about that a lot today, how I thought that political dissidents would have just endless spare time and I had this kind of revolutionary idea that we didn’t have. I guess when I was younger I thought that’s what a revolutionary did. They didn’t have a job, they didn’t get a trade, they didn’t learn any skills because they were just solely dedicated to bringing down the state.

 

And I thought about how that’s kind of a lightning and sun perspective. If you’re pure lightning then that would make sense because your goal is a purely almost destructive energy like to just bring down the state. But we are all, everything we do in our lives is character building so that we actually can be leaders of a future ethno-state. That’s how our lives are developing. Everything we’re learning, all our interactions, our physical training as well. Almost all the men like so yourself, myself, Joel, you’ve got Damian Richardson, you’ve got Matt Trihey, you got Nick Patterson, you got Craig Cole. All these men that I just mentioned are all fit, they’re all fit and healthy and trained like Matt Trihey. He’s like 60 and the guy looks 40.

 

Blair Cottrell: He was a mixed martial artist. He used to fight. He had a few professional fights when he was a bit younger.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he was.

 

Blair Cottrell: Damien Richardson has his own website too, guys, which is just his full name. DamienRichardson.online. I haven’t checked out that site yet but not sure what you’ll find there. If you guys are interested in knowing.

 

Joel Davis: More speeches were broadcast live so I’m sure we’ll post them on social media in some way. So you guys can go and watch them or you can cheque it out for yourself if you’re interested, because I’m sure they’re out there. You can watch the replay. Damien’s speech in particular was, I thought, really, really good.

 

As Tom says, he’s a brilliant orator. He’s very talented. I mean, he’s just made to do basically what we’re doing on here, be brilliant live streaming. He had a radio show, and he would have been brilliant on the radio. I think he does do streaming, so I think if you check out his website that you just mentioned, I think he does periodically do streaming. Yeah, I think he’s a real asset to the movement because of his just erudition, intelligence, his ability to convey a message that I think normal people can connect with. And he’s very engaging and funny. His speech was great. I really enjoyed it.

 

I mean, I was a few beers deep, so maybe I enjoyed it more because of that. But it was still a really good speech. And I did appreciate the way that he actually pushed the envelope he talked about. He made clear references to jewish control of the media and influence over our political system. He defended the principle of the Anzacs, the men who fought in the Second World War, they were fighting for White Australia. So clearly a very based individual. And that’s a message that almost no one is promoting. And that’s the message that is the most important message to promote.

 

I mean, particularly what he said about White Australia and the people that were sitting there. I mean, it was billed as was talking about protecting children from the LGBTQ agenda and mass immigration. That’s what it was. Bill. These are the two, according to Matt, and I think Matt is correct to identify. These are the two key issues politically of our time, what they’re doing to families and what they’re doing to the nation. And the two things are interrelated.

 

I said this today on Twitter, that everything that is happening ultimately boils down to the ruling class is attacking our blood, whether it be on the microcosm, on the family level, trying to destroy, sexually pervert our children, prevent people from getting married, prevent people from having children, you know, promote all the things that they promote, feminism, LGBT, pornography, degeneracy, et cetera. All of that is about destroying the blood in the most direct way or destroying the blood of the nation through mass immigration, through anti-White discrimination, through promoting miscegenation, through elevating non-Whites into positions of power within White societies.

 

Why are they doing this? It’s because blood loyalty is the most powerful force, like in humanity, and it is the most dangerous force to the ruling class. Because the ruling class is held together by lies, deception, money, self interest. It’s not held together by a genuine self sacrifice or heart or love. None of that exists within the elite, the elite that currently rules over us. It’s pathological, it’s a tyranny precisely because it lacks that.

 

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And so it fears any basis from which someone could tap into that energy and rise up and challenge them. Someone could tap into the energy of the familial and ethnic and racial bonds and say:

 

“Hey, I’m going to fight for your family. I’m going to fight for your people, against the scum that rule over you.”

 

And so they’re trying to destroy those bonds so that no one can tap into them, so that no one can challenge them.

 

And I think that’s really like the essential point of all of these people in the freedom movement, obviously they agree that there is a tyrannical elite. They all came together opposing the lockdowns and the Covid jab mandates and so on.

 

And they all believe in conspiracy theories. They talk about globalism, they talk about international cabals and the way in which democracy doesn’t really function correctly. And that there’s this kind of series of elite institutions interconnected with global elite institutions and our media that promote a political message and agenda that they impose upon the country regardless of Democratic mandate.

 

So they’re aware of that.

 

But a lot of them haven’t fully connected the dots on exactly what the agenda is about. There’s this kind of like, superficial idea that the people that are in charge, they just want to make money, or they just want power for the sake of power, and they don’t really care.

 

Like, it’s not about race, it’s not about jews versus Aryans, it’s not about any of these things. They just believe in all these wacky communist ideas and they just want more and more power for the sake of power. No. People want power for the sake of power. Doing something with power. Power is a means to an end. It isn’t an end in itself. And yes, they want money. Yes, they want to ingratiate themselves. Yes, they want to ascend hierarchies.

 

And a lot of the people who work in politics and media, they just parrot what they’re supposed to parrot so that they can do that. But those people don’t actually have the agency over the system. The people that have the agency over the system are the ones that are actually using it for some purpose. And the ones that are using it for some purpose are using it to attack your family and your race because they’re afraid of the Whiteman. They’re afraid of the Whiteman more than anyone because if the Whiteman came together, we could overthrow them and they know it. And they built this entire system on the basis, on the basis of defeating us, like we previously ran the world and then they took over.

 

So the entire new system is built around preventing us from taking it back because we used to be in charge. We were the previous rulers. The new rule is obviously whenever you get a phase shift in politics, the new ideology is always built around stopping whoever previously ran shit from being able to run shit!

 

So, for example, when liberalism began, it was built around not letting monarchs and aristocrats rule things because they were the previous rulers. Or communism is built around the idea we can’t let capitalists rule things as they were the previous rulers or whatever.

 

And so this current system is built around we can’t let White men, White nations have sovereignty because then they’re too powerful and then we can’t control the world. They become too powerful. The world basically is their oyster.

 

So that’s what this is all about. And that was kind of, they didn’t quite go there, but they were kind of edging these people in that direction.

 

And I think the vast majority of the audience was quite receptive. And the elements that weren’t receptive, they didn’t look like a lot of them seemed like they, like there was a few people there that were mixed race couples that didn’t seem too happy about the message and left early. And there was a few other older ladies that seemed a little bit offended by some of the rhetoric.

 

But overall I would say 80, 90% of the audience seemed quite captivated and interested and receptive to what they were hearing.

 

So that’s quite interesting because this is not an audience of White nationalists. This is an audience of, what would you call them? Just concerned citizens.

 

Blair Cottrell: Disillusioned working people, man.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, concerned citizens. They are concerned citizens.

 

Blair Cottrell: 50s Internet users, over 50 many.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, that is a good point to make, is that the only youth that was there was us and other organizations that attended. So I didn’t notice too many young people that weren’t already tribe and training that weren’t already networked with an organization, so they, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, there’s not many.

 

Thomas Sewell: The system and the communists would certainly be shaking in their boots a little bit right now, because this is a grassroots success. This is stepping into a new paradigm. And the value of this is about cadre building as well. It’s about you’re having these meetings, who’s attending regularly.

 

And as Matt said at the start, education. He said:

 

“One of the most important reasons for this meeting is education.”

 

And so a lot of people might have felt afterwards that we didn’t reach any solution, you know, that it wasn’t a productive meeting because we didn’t reach a solution, because people want instant solutions. But what Matt explained the purpose of the meeting was, was education.

 

And the more people that come, and the more regularly they attend and the more these things happen, the more they start to build a political awareness. A class of people that aren’t just concerned citizens, but they’re educated concerned citizens. They’re now educated on a governing worldview, on governing principles embedded within natural law, embedded within fact and truth.

 

So they’re in the moral and logical high ground. And then now you’ve got this building population, this subpopulation, and it’s growing, and they have friends, they have family, and it bleeds through society. And that is one of those important concepts within metapolitics that we let. Maybe there’s a political solution, maybe there’s not. Why it’s irrelevant right now is whether there is or isn’t. We need a cultural and educational and informational solution in order to achieve a political solution or not, so political solutions are downstream of cadre building, they’re downstream of local community, grassroots meetings, activism, tribe and train sort of thing. So anything you’re going to say something?

 

Blair Cottrell: No. You can finish if you want. Is there something you want to finish with there?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I can just talk forever.

 

Joel Davis: So I just want to interject. I want to interject here with RSA Liberty, who said, it’s a relevant Superchat. He said:

 

“Great to see you guys supporting other Right-wing groups. No infighting or petty territorialism. Another reason I know I’m following the Right guys also enjoyed Blair’s vlog of the event.”

 

And I think that’s actually an important point to make. We just want to see anyone who’s trying to do something good succeed. Anyone, literally anyone in Australia that’s trying to build towards, like, an actual sincere, patriotic, pro-White, pro-family politics, whatever way they want to go about it. If they’re doing it in an honest way and then they’re not screwing anybody over and they’re just trying. If they’re having a crack, Yeah, if they’re just having a crack, yeah. They have my 100% full support.

 

Blair Cottrell: But where do they go from here? That’s the thing. The next meeting they host will be the spicy one, because now all the wrong people know who they are and they’re going to be keeping an eye on what they’re going to do next. So next time they’re going to have the police.

 

Next time they’re going to have counter-protesters, next time they’re going to need a bit of security. So luckily they have the networks to acquire that for themselves. Probably through Tom and the guys. They might be able to work the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Doors, different speakers as well.

 

So there was already different types of security there and different organizations.

 

So it was like a community defence.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Nick Patterson has his guys, that Craig Cole guy, he runs a martial arts gym as well. You know, there was lots of different crews down there, so it was full unity. It was full Right-wing unity.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re going to need it. They’re going to need it because I don’t think anyone thought it was going to be that big of a meeting and that many people were going to attend on the very first try, the very first event. So, like I said, the next one will be spicy.

 

I asked a question during Q and A and the purpose of the question was to try to signal to the speakers, the organizers of the events, that it’s important to have the people who attend the event leave the event having remembered a very simple dynamic or having a remembered something that they can take away from the event and sort of apply to their daily philosophy. So I asked:

 

“What is the movements’ or the collection of organizations that have organized that event, what is your goal and who is your enemy?”

 

And that’s very important dynamic to establish. It can sometimes be difficult to do because you might have a convoluted idea of what’s happening. You might see the enemy as the system. The problem with that, though, is it doesn’t really pin anything down. It doesn’t identify the people behind and within the system who are your enemy. Right? And you don’t necessarily have to use language like, “it’s the jews”, but you can deliver a message to people in such a way where they understand who the enemy is. You can also help people understand what the goal is, the preservation or protection of the Australian nation, for example. Everyone can get behind that.

 

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So your goal needs to be something that everyone can get behind, and your enemy needs to be understood as something palpable, something that can be seen, something that does exist, that is evil.

 

So this is what we believe, up with the Australian nation, that over there is the enemy, down with them. And that’s what appeals to the average person. Establishing that dynamic as a movement leader, an event organizer, as a public speaker, it’s very important. It’s what people are receptive to. It doesn’t matter how you feel about this. It doesn’t matter if you’re like:

 

“Oh, I don’t want to oversimplify things.”

 

Too bad. You have to oversimplify things in order for your message to be understood by the ordinary people, the working class people who are going to be attending events like this in the future.

 

So that was the reason I asked the question that I asked, and I hope the organizers understand that and sort of formulate a better answer to that question, meaning creating a nice, easy to understand “us versus them” dynamic. But, Joe, you are paradigms.

 

Joel Davis: I think the simple paradigm that they could use if they don’t necessarily want to go too spicy, is just do the classic “globalism versus nationalism”. There was a lot of talk of globalism and nationalism through the speeches. It corresponds with the rhetoric they’re already putting down.

 

Blair Cottrell: But simple answer is what needed to be said. That’s the simple thing that people needed to leave with. This is what I was trying to say. People needed to be warned. Walking out of there feeling good, feeling like they had support, feeling strong, feeling like, okay, I’m a nationalist and my enemy is the globalists. Right, that’s a good start. You can start with that and you can build on that from there to make it a little bit more radical, I suppose, a little bit more fundamental.

 

Joel Davis: I mean, there was a lot of pro-White rhetoric that was interlayed in discussion of explicitly of White interests. And Jared Taylor was mentioned, pathological altruism. There was a lot of good talking points. Matt himself and Damien particularly brought up in what they had to say. I enjoyed the other speaker that was there. He wasn’t there to speak so much about immigration. He was there to speak about the LGBTQ whatever agenda. And he spoke very well, very forcefully. I think he used to work in the education system.

 

So he had a lot of experience with how this degenerate shit is interwoven into the school system. Obviously a very important issue. And it was good to see him on stage with nationalists, you know, bringing those two issues together because nationalists were pretty much the only people like the Christians as well, will do something.

 

But yeah, we’ve really been leading the charge.

 

I mean, how many Drag Queen Story Hours have we either protested or shut down over the past year or two? I mean, so many.

 

I mean, I know that myself personally, Drag Queen Story Hours that I have targeted and obviously everyone has helped and the drag help. Yeah, yeah. And the threat of Tom and the boys showing up definitely gets a lot of these things shut down. Definitely! And we’ve got, he, I don’t know, count maybe like 20, 20 plus of these things shut down.

 

So yeah, and then we’ve shown up to a few as well.

 

And so we’ve been putting in the work and it’s good to see that there’s a kind of, there needs to be unity on the Right around that issue. That’s something that everyone can agree on.

 

And I think it’s a good thing for nationalists to keep chipping away at with the rest of the Right-wing to say:

 

“Hey, like, we’re the fighters of the Right-wing. You guys need to start getting with the program on the other issues that we care about and realising that we are your friends and you’re not going to get anywhere, really. The Right-wing is not going to get anywhere without us. We’re the real fighters, we’re the real radicals. We’re the real high energy people in the movement!”

 

So if the Right-wing wants to get anything done, it needs to include us. It’s as simple as that. And insofar as it has been excluding us and not these particular people, obviously, but in general, as, insofar as conservatives and Right-wing elements have excluded us for the sake of optics and not wanting to have the association, what they have done is they’ve put all their fighters on the sideline and then lost every single battle. They’ve lost every single battle for decades until they can actually start using their fighters rather than sidelining us because we’re too edgy.

 

The reason why we’re edgy is because we’re the fighters. That’s what? Like the Left has their fighters. The Left-wing fighters are like pro-pedophilia, communist demons. The Left doesn’t sideline their fighters. They put their insane nut job fighters out into the field and they go and get shit done. And they’re turning your kid into a tranny.

 

So you need to the Right needs to start using us. And yeah, they’re going to get called names by the media and so on, but if you use this, if you use this enough, eventually no one cares anymore. It just becomes normal.

 

Like, they can moan and cry, but if the Right-wing just doesn’t care and just keeps using us again and again and again and again, eventually that will just be seen as how politics works.

 

So the Left has done, we could get on here and talk about, or the mainstream Right-wing media can go on about Antifa and communists and blah, blah, blah. Does it, does the Left give a shit? No! Does the public give a shit? No, it doesn’t.

 

Obviously there’s opposition to these things, but it doesn’t prevent them from winning elections, it doesn’t prevent them from functioning as a robust and effective political force. They’re fucking winning.

 

So, yeah, the Right, if the Right wants to actually win, and the problem is a lot of the people in the institutional Right don’t want to win! A lot of them are professional losers. They’re paid off by jews, they’re non-White themselves.

 

And so they feel more threatened by us than by their supposed political opponents on the left when they’re so-called based Right-wing non-Whites. But the true normal White Right-winger, who genuinely cares about the issues that they purport to care about, they need to start fighting to put us on the team and get us on the team if they want to start winning.

 

And the only way that Australia would be fixed is if you get the radicals, the nationalists on the team.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, it was great that Matt was so welcoming because a lot of people, I just expected it because I’ve known that for years, but I got so many messages from people saying:

 

“How are you received? How are you?”

 

Like, it was on the consciousness, on the political consciousness of a lot of people within the wider movement. They were very curious as to how the meeting went. Not just as a meeting, but the dynamic between work was people in the crowd, you know, positive towards us:

 

“Were they curious? Were the organizers positive or curious and just what’s the state of Right-wing unity at the moment? What’s the state of pro-White unity? And is the pro-White crowd expanding that? Are we becoming more normalized within the open window without removing any of our radical and truthful components?”

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say “Hi!” to also to all the grannies. There was a few other I’m not saying that you’re all grannies, because there were some women that come to me that weren’t grannies. They were much younger, that you’re definitely not grannies. But there were some grannies that came up to me and said:

 

“I love what you do, and we love the show!”

 

And so on.

 

So there’s Granny Waffen out there watching the show every week. I just want to say hello to Granny Waffen. And actually, I’ve actually encountered Granny Waffen at other events before. It’s very endearing. It feels good. And there was one of the granny Waffen who came up to me and she said something along the lines of:

 

“They were trying to make us hate you guys and think that you guys were bad actors, but I know that you’re not. I know that you guys are good boys!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Who’s they? What do they mean by “they were”?

 

Thomas Sewell: Trying to make some of the other. The Left-wing Freedom rally organizers were telling their constituents, their cohort, that these people are feds, these people are bad agents, these people are here to make us look bad. And you’ve got two kinds of grandmas politically. You’ve got racist grandmas, and you’ve got refugee grandmas. And racist grandmas are like the loving, caring, nurturing, motherly grandmas, and they’re the best.

 

And then we have the best grandmas, as Trump would probably say, we have. We have the best grandmas. Like, our movement has.

 

Joel Davis: Nobody has grandmas like our grandmas!

 

Thomas Sewell: Nobody has grandmas like our movement. And our grandmas are so loving, they’re so caring. Um, you know, we just have the best grandmas!

 

Whereas the Left, they get the freak grandmas! They get the grandmas that aren’t even grandmas! Like, they just have a dog, or they have brown children, or they’re like witches. They’re like the Wicked Witches. And we get the good witches, we get the old grandmas that, like, make cakes, and they, like, say:

 

“You know, that the country’s gone the wrong way and we really need to fix it. And I’m putting a lot of hope in you!”

 

And we just get awesome grandmas like that. And every freedom rally thing I’ve ever been to, grandmas are the first to come up to me like, tom, Tom, Tom, and I’m just like, why do grandmas love me? This is crazy! Yeah, we’re the most radical, but they’ve got a feeling that they’ve got a sense. They don’t care about the propaganda, they don’t care. It doesn’t matter. They’re just eternal sense.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what else they don’t care about? They don’t care about having their faces seen at these events, which is something a lot of people still care a lot about. I was approached by several people saying:

 

“Blair, I noticed you were filming for a bit there. Can, can you make sure I’m not in that?”

 

Even though they’re just attending the rally now, I don’t want to throw dirt on anyone. I know people have their reasons for wanting to stay anonymous, but what do you guys think about that? I want to open up this subject because I’ve got a little bit to say about it. What do you think about anonymity?

 

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Thomas Sewell: I just wrote a big essay on it, it must be in the hive mind, because just about three minutes before we went live, I just wrote an essay on it.

 

Blair Cottrell: So we’re well equipped for the discussion.

 

Thomas Sewell: If you guys want to go. Yeah, let’s go. Let’s do it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I can open up, I suppose, and I can begin with where I began in Australian nationalism, which was a think tank, a club called Nationalist Alternative. First group I ever met with, they were just people who got together maybe once a month, some older guys, some younger guys, just to talk, eat some food, nothing serious.

 

On the very rare occasion they do a letterbox drop for Australia, first party or something. But there was no real activism. But I was young. I was about 19 or 20 years old when I first engaged with this group. This is when I was first looking for an Australian nationalist group on the Internet and I found this one. And I wanted my friends to get into this as well, when I first met these guys.

 

So there was about 12 or 13 guys meeting once a month.

 

And I thought:

 

“We need more people. We need to make this bigger, more popular, more powerful. We need to create a counterculture.”

 

That’s what I wanted to do. I wanted to get my girlfriend involved, I wanted her friends being involved but every time I tried to take a photo or get some footage of everyone together, everyone had an issue with it:

 

“No, I don’t want my face in that. No, I don’t want to be associated with this.”

 

And I thought, it’s really frustrating because I thought:

 

“Well, how are we ever going to grow this community if we don’t have people who are open and proud of what they believe, unashamed? How is anyone ever going to know about it? How are we going to make this popular and powerful?”

 

And I realized over time that this fear, this paranoia, this tendency to want to remain anonymous and operate in the shadows. It has plagued Australian nationalism for ages, since I first got involved and probably long before I got involved, and that’s before it was really edgy.

 

I mean, when I was 19, YouTube was full of Hitler speeches and clever edits of William Luther Pierce speeches, which, you know, contributed to my development, my understanding of what was going on in the world. That stuff was just available everywhere. The Internet was just completely open. And even back then, people were just like:

 

“Oh, I don’t want to be seen with this. I can’t be seen to be associated!”

 

You can’t be seen to associate with what? A bunch of people talking about loving their country and wanting to protect their extended ethnic community? Like, why can’t you be seen associating with that? Like I said, I don’t want to throw too much shade on anyone. And I know everyone has their reasons for wanting to do whatever it is they’re doing, but if you’re never going to be known for what you truly believe and stand for, then what you truly believe and stand for is never going to become known, certainly not popular or powerful. You need to be unashamed, you need to be bold. You need to be brave, and you need to understand that the consequences people like myself have suffered really aren’t that bad.

 

I mean, I’m starting to think that the closure of bank accounts was a clever ploy by the government to actually try to strike terror into people who were thinking about associating with or getting involved in rationalism. Because, yeah, we were talking about this last night, and it got me thinking because we still bank. All I did was start up an account.

 

Joel Davis: Shut down means is you just have to move to another bank and then transfer your money there. They don’t steal your money.

 

Blair Cottrell: And this is not only that, but it keeps you on your toes.

 

Joel Davis: Minor inconvenience it is.

 

Blair Cottrell: And that’s all it’s ever been from the beginning. Even the legal charges, really, for me, it was a minor inconvenience. I’d been to court before that, when I was younger. I was accustomed to it.

 

But I think the problem is its especially true of the younger guys, a lot of whom want to stay anonymous. They’ve never been to jail, they’ve never been charged with anything. They haven’t been to prison. They haven’t really been on the wrong side of the law, many of them have never even had a parking fine.

 

And so I think they fear stepping over that boundary where suddenly they’re known to the state for the wrong reasons.

 

But you can’t fear that it’s like if you’re going to fear that, you’re just going to perpetually live in subordination to this system and the people who control it. I think I’ve said enough on the matter. What do you think, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, I just want to reiterate that point about the banking. I mean, we talk about it because it’s an important propagandistic function to say, how come our guys will get their bank account taken away because they go to a peaceful protest on behalf of White Australians.

 

But then pedophiles can have a bank account. Like, it doesn’t actually make any sense. Like, it’s totally fucked in the head, obviously!

 

So it’s an important propaganda point to make. But people then get afraid, like:

 

“Oh, the system. I could be put on the list by ASIO.”

 

And what is ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organization] gonna do with that list? I’ve been on ASIO’s list for years. Who cares? Like, ASIO can look at my text messages. I don’t do anything illegal. And ASIO is like:

 

“Oh, yep, he doesn’t seem to be doing any terrorism this week. We’ll keep an eye on him.”

 

And that’s literally it. There’s no second phase. Tom has been dragged before the courts in an unfair way, but they were through. Like, he got into a fight with people. Like, okay, it was unfair what they did to him because he was defending himself or defending his friend.

 

But it wasn’t like they just rounded him up and arrested him just because he was being a White nationalist. They waited for some opportunity to construct the case against him. And this is Australia’s most prominent White nationalist. You showing up as just some guy, no one knows who you are in a T-shirt, some event where you just sit on a seat and listen to a few speeches and go home, and then people can see you in the background of some video footage. What do you think is going to happen from that? Nothing is going to happen from that it’s just ridiculous to be that afraid. Your face isn’t that distinctive. No one knows who you are.

 

Now I get it. If you’re, like, trying to work in some government department or you’re trying to become a lawyer or become some high powered business executive, or something in a big company. And you really got this really sensitive career path. I can understand being cautious, but almost no one is like that. Almost no one actually has a sensitive career path. Most people just have normal jobs. I’ve had plenty of normal jobs in different industries. I’ve never had issues because of who I am. And I’m out and proud. Open news articles get written about me. I get hit pieces written about me by foreign organizations. We had foreign intelligence agencies doing reports on our show. We had the ADL, the SPLC, all these American Leftist organizations writing articles that reference me and talk about me and Antifa and so on.

 

None of that’s going to happen to you because you’re not Joel Davis, you’re not Thomas Sowell, you’re not Blair Cottrell, you’re some guy that no one even knows your name standing at a political event. So it really isn’t that big of a deal. I don’t know. I’m not saying to be cavalier about these things, take as many precautions as possible.

 

But when the precautions prevent you from even participating in an event where you go:

 

“Oh, I don’t want to go down to that rally or that speech or something because I don’t want to be seen to associate with these people.”

 

It becomes to the point where it’s actually preventing you from even being a political activist because of a totally unjustified fear. We’re not, it’s not illegal to be a White nationalist. And if you’re seen on video footage, it’s actually pretty hard for them to figure out who you are just based upon that. Usually it takes more than that for them to be able to identify you. And if you’re not putting yourself forward as like a speaker or as a leader or as a member of an organization.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re just an observer.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

Then there’s no risk under the, under those circumstances. And you can take precautions. Pay cash instead of card. Tell, when you introduce yourself, tell them a fake name or only your first name, or don’t mention where you live, don’t mention what you do for work. Just be vague about who you are but still show up and be smart. Don’t trust random people with sensitive information.

 

But yeah, look at the effects of de-banking.

 

Blair Cottrell: When you look at the effects of closing the bank accounts of activists, it doesn’t stop those activists from banking, as we just described. You just go to a different bank and open a new account. So closing bank accounts, de-banking, hasn’t stopped us from banking, in effect.

 

So what effect has it had? The effect it has had is it could only be described as “social terrorism”. It’s “social terror”. It makes people too afraid to associate with our kind of politics, even if they do believe it, because they’re like:

 

“Oh, my God, I’m not going to be able to use a bank!”

 

But that’s not actually the reality of how de-banking works. You get a letter, you get 30 days to move your money into a new account, and that’s the process of the whole thing. It’s really not that serious.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I’ve never been charged with a crime because of anything I’ve done to do with the movement. And I’ve done all the different kinds of activism. I’ve said all the kinds of edgy things on the Internet with my real name and face. You’re not going to go to jail unless you, …

 

I mean, yeah, like, they will treat you unjustly when you’re doing street activism. Like, you know, Tom’s dealing with police harassment over the Ballarat rally, and we’ve got guys that are getting harassed because one guy has a necklace that is a swastika but not a Hakenkreuz, or people threw Roman before it was made illegal and these kinds of things.

 

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But if you don’t be that provocative and you’re not like a prominent, open public member of, like a National Socialist organization or something like that’s very on the edge and even. And all those guys don’t give a fuck about being dragged before the courts. They’ll gladly do it. It’s an opportunity to get in the news and to make an activistic point about:

 

“Look at this state tyranny. Look at how they’re treating us!”

 

But if you don’t want to be a sacrificial lamb like that, I understand that that’s not for everyone. You just simply not behave like that you can just be cautious and be sensible and even behaving like me.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a sacrificial wolf. Then I’ll laugh.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, okay. Sacrificial wolf. I like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but you said you were writing about the subject, Tom. Did you? Is anything coming to mind that you want to bring up?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I published it.

 

I mean, I don’t have to read through the whole thing. People can find it on my Telegram.

 

But, yeah, I just wrote that it, for me, my personal doxing experience felt like progressive overload. So I felt like I was, over the years, developing my worldview. I was expressing that worldview to the people around me. I never hid my worldview or the development of my worldview to the people closest to me, anyone that worked with me, anyone that trained with me, anyone in my family. I wasn’t like a closeted gay. You know what I mean?

 

Joel Davis: Like, you know how there’s a closeted Nazi? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I wasn’t a closeted Nazi. You know how there’s closet gays and flamboyant gays? I was always just open with my Nazism.

 

So when I came out as a Nazi, everyone’s like:

 

“Yeah, we knew he was a Nazi!”

 

I was going through my stuff. I was clearing out, and it was a year twelve, my year twelve shirt that everyone signed. When you graduate from school, everyone runs around and writes each other’s names on each other’s shirts. And someone had drew a swastika on my [shirt] arm, and I wasn’t even a Nazi in year twelve. Like, I wasn’t, and yet someone drew a swastika on my arm.

 

So I think that’s pretty to me, I called it honest to a fault. And we often use the term “sperg” in the movement. We say:

 

“Oh, it’s really sperg!”

 

You know:

 

“I was pretty sperg you there, or I said something pretty sperg to you.”

 

It’s like, we used to call it honest to a fault. I was just honest to a fault. I was just too honest for my own good. And I didn’t, like, curtail or control information and manipulate it in some way to the people around me.

 

And then eventually it spirals out of control in this kind of anxiety ridden moment where no one actually knows you’re a Nazi, but you’ve been on the Internet and a Nazi for so long as I never did that, so you should stop doing that if you do it. Like, it’s fucking neurotic. Like, I don’t know. I just think it’s not good. Don’t do it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: To me, that’s very feminine. It’s very weird. Like, if you’re fucking racist, be racist to everyone. I’ve never met anyone that doesn’t know I’m a racist. When I get a coffee or food or whatever, I tell the person I’m a racist. Like, I literally did it today. Like, she asked me to donate a dollar to the charity. And I said:

 

“What charity is it?”

 

And then she said:

 

“Oh, it’s like a youth one.”

 

I was like:

 

“Okay, well, I don’t do the nigger charities. Like, I don’t donate to blacks. I’m a racist.”

 

And she was like:

 

“Oh!”

 

And she, like, took off her glasses. She was like:

 

“What?”

 

And, yeah, it was just a White chick. And she just thought it was fucking hilarious! She was like:

 

“Are you for serious?”

 

I was like:

 

“Yeah, I’m a racist.”

 

I was like:

 

“Don’t spit in my food. I’m watching you.”

 

And, yeah, I just. I fucking. I don’t know. You could call that sperg you out, but it’s just full chat, maxing. It’s just full!

 

Blair Cottrell: You give your real name, like, when you go and you’re waiting for food, when they’re making you give them your real name.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, my full name. I’ll watch you make my food. Like, you’re gonna spin my food or jump the counter, like test me.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, I’ll do it sometimes. Use an alias I have all admitted, because I don’t trust people. And I know that it’s unlikely that someone. Look, I’ve been approached or recognized in public, mostly by people who support me. It’s very rare that someone doesn’t support you and says something or does something about it. Last time that happened, actually, I got charged because I. Yeah, I had to go to court. Some guy followed me. Some guy followed me in a supermarket with a face covering. Threatened me. I pushed him to create space because I thought, you know what am I supposed to do here? And the police charged me with unlawful assault just for pushing a guy who stalked and threatened me in a supermarket. I’ve never seen the guy before.

 

But anyway, I digress.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, it’s not a digression. It’s very important because people are complaining about:

 

“Oh, I don’t want to lose my bank account.”

 

It’s like when you’re real highly active activists and your face and names out there, you’re operating on a different plane of consciousness. You’re not just worried about bank accounts. Like, you have to watch people make.

 

Blair Cottrell: Your food, you have to watch. Have to sit with your back up against the wall. In any restaurant you go to, you need to see the doors. You need to see the entry and the exit.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s on a different, like, people are getting firebombed, you know, at our level, you know, our car tires are getting slashed. Like the government is allowing. You know what I mean? And you’re just a spectator or you’re worried about these minor inconveniences. When you get up on our level, then you can complain. Don’t complain. It’s a bank account. Who cares? Don’t complain.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but I don’t complain because it’s not that fucking bad. We know each other personally. We all just normal guys. And it’s fine. Like, it’s literally prison with the most.

 

Thomas Sewell: Not that I encourage prison, but even prison wasn’t that bad. Like, it sucks, but honestly, it was the whole time.

 

Joel Davis: It would have been pretty good.

 

Thomas Sewell: Isolation is like a luxury. Like, how often in your life do you just get to spend time with yourself and no one else?

 

Joel Davis: I hope I get to do it. Twelve months and I can just read, like, so many books. I’ll just come out.

 

Thomas Sewell: You kind of don’t know who you are until you’ve had a good amount of isolation. That’s why I want to build like a temple or something. I want to build like, a monastery, like when we get land, but, like, real deep in the forest. Like, real deep in the forest up on a mountain or something. Like in the in Batman Begins. I know it’s pipe dreaming ideas, Man, but I’m a dreamer. I’m like Hitler, I’m a dreamer. I laugh. I actually think all the time how our leaders are so gay. Like, they spend 600 fucking million dollars setting up a rugby team and fucking PNG. Or they spend money on fucking Mardi Gras. They just do gay shit! But if, like, Nazis or fascists, whatever you want to call us, I don’t care if we’re in power, think about all the cool shit we’re going to do. Like, we’re going to build like, super monasteries and, like, build like a temple of all this crazy shit! And people are gonna go all the way up to the mountain and it’d be like the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: We should make like an anglicised ninja warrior. Have you seen ninja warrior? I want it. Want to make an Anglo version of that.

 

Joel Davis: We’ll do so much more shit, of course.

 

Blair Cottrell: Who’s the fittest man in this country. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s just endless. The cool shit that we can do. We can turn it into just the greatest place in the world.

 

And I think part of that is about, is a balance. You want, like athletics and philosophy and you want, you can’t just go too hard in one area. It can’t just be pure hedonism. You have to balance all the enjoyment and all the hedonism with struggle and sacrifice and solitude and things like that so that you have, like a meditative.

 

But you know, they can’t be too, if they’re only meditative, and then no vril, you know, you’ve got to have these kind of outlets, these masculine and adrenaline outlets.

 

And I just think how society, we structure so much differently.

 

But in the meantime, before having that society, I do want to just build something where there’s no technology, just something up on a mountain and there’s no technology. You go there, you know, for a month or three months at a time, and you just get that solitude.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. And you’re so right when you said that you never really know yourself until you get that time to yourself and with yourself, or enough of that time to start fully understanding yourself.

 

And I think anyone who’s afraid of that, you’ve got a lot to deal with. You need to unpack your personality. You need to look at the pieces of yourself. You need to pull yourself apart. Look at the pieces. Ask yourself, why do I feel this way about that? Why do I think this way about that person? Is it me who’s the problem? Like, what’s making me tick?

 

And that’s why I always, since I was young, I’ve relished in the opportunity to just spend some time by myself in solitude, so I can think about these things. To get a better understanding of myself, you need to know yourself. It’s so important. I think it’s an Aristotle quote, actually:

 

“That a man should delight in solitude, and only a person who is his worst enemy is afraid of that, his own worst enemy.”

 

Meaning when you’re your own worst enemy, you’re going to try to busy yourself with, you know, social events and talking to as many people as possible, keeping yourself distracted from any introspection. It’s something that I see a lot of people in society doing. I think that’s why so many people busy themselves with so many unnecessary bread and circus, you know, events. That’s if you’re a young guy watching this still developing, getting that time to yourself, the time to think, even if you’re whispering to yourself a little bit, you can talk to yourself in the privacy of your own room, you know, figure yourself out, learn about yourself, because only you can do that. Only you’re going to be able to get that grasp on yourself. And you can’t really appreciate, I think, especially not a woman, until you can appreciate yourself. And to appreciate means to recognize the full worth of something.

 

So really, you’re not in a position to even be searching for a female mate, a partner, as a guy, until you’ve fully understood the man you are or the man that you’re trying to be at least, right?

 

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Joel Davis: I think it’s also important that you take that time to then meditate on the fact that if you’re aware of what is happening to our race and you’re not fucking doing anything about it, and you care more about some stupid job when you can just get another job or being put on some ASIO watch list that won’t materialize into anything because all they’re going to do is just watch you and do nothing.

 

Because, like, unless you, like, start plotting terrorism or something, there’s nothing that you’re doing that’s illegal. You’ll realize:

 

“Hey, wait a second. I’m a fucking faggot. Oh, my God! I’m a piece of shit! What? Why am I doing nothing to save my fucking race? Why am I sitting here working for ZOG, trying to keep my misses happy and keeping up with the Joneses and trying to maintain some shitty middle class existence or strive towards it? Why am I like this?”

 

That’s a fucking shit life! It’s a boring life. How about instead of that, you devote your life to something that’s actually meaningful and then when you’re sitting alone, you can think about what you’re doing with your life and you can think:

 

“Oh, I’m a fucking sick cunt! I love this!”

 

That’s what happens when I sit. When I sit there and I’m just spending time with myself and I’m reflecting upon who I am. That’s how I feel.

 

I feel like a sitcom. I feel like I’m a fucking legend.

 

And ’m going to keep going. I’m on my fucking quest!

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on a second.

 

Joel Davis: I’m on the hero’s journey!

 

Blair Cottrell: So during your introspective periods, you’re just like, really, like, happy with yourself. You’re never like:

 

“Oh, shit, yeah, maybe I’ve got to work on this?”

 

You’re just like:

 

“No, I’m a sick cunt! I’m always., …”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I’m not saying I’m always right. Obviously, I’m reflective and I’m always striving to make improvements and I’m pretty self critical.

 

But at the same time, like, I’m on a path that I know is the right path and I know my life is full of meaning. I’m not kind of confused. Oh, like am I happy?

 

Yeah, I’m just happy.

 

Blair Cottrell: So I don’t like that question anyway. Like, am I happy? Like, what does that even mean? I’m not thinking about my happiness. The more you centralize your thought process on your own happiness, the more miserable we’re going to be.

 

Joel Davis: That’s what you mean by happiness, though. Like, what I mean by happiness is just, … What I’m doing. What I’m supposed to be doing. Think happiness is like, just, oh, I’m experiencing pleasure. I’m experiencing entertainment and positive stimulation. I don’t view that as happiness, actually.

 

I feel like that’s the opposite. If you get over-saturated, I think with pleasure and entertainment, I think what happens is you actually start to get depressed because.

 

Blair Cottrell: Absolutely! Because you’re less receptive.

 

Joel Davis: Addicted. Yeah, exactly! You become addicted to these, like to this stimulation. And then.

 

And then you just need that stimulation.

 

And then when the stimulation is taken away, you’re like, lost.

 

Blair Cottrell: Um, but if you get too much of good stuff, you get too much pleasure, then no amount of pleasure will be enough. After a certain point, like, look at all these, like, middle class boomers and stuff that live in these beautiful big houses with perfectly maintained lawns and four cars in the garage, all like beautiful European cars. And they’re walking around with a look on their face like they can’t stand themselves or anything around them. They’re all unhappy. They’re all unhappy because they’re always geared so much towards the next material acquisition. They’ve had too much for too long.

 

Like, I can say that losing everything is a really great way to gain perspective as to what’s truly valuable. I think that’s why a lot of people have begun to focus on family ever since the quote, unquote, “pandemic and lockdown” process. Because I think during that process people weren’t able to access the usual dopamine endeavors that would have kept them busy. Typically, they weren’t able to do and acquire the things that they would usually distract themselves. With their bread and circus was somewhat limited.

 

And so they suddenly realized what’s important and what was important to them was family. I’ve noticed a lot more women since the lockdowns, in Australia at least, are geared towards children, having children and putting their children first, which is a positive development for Australia. Obviously, it’s not positive that they all got injected with that mystery goo. That’s not going to be great.

 

But there’s silver linings still. The silver linings in every circumstance, even those lockdowns.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. A lot of women just didn’t go back to work. They realize that that’s actually where they want it to be and I think that’s pretty awesome!

 

Joel Davis: What I like to an extent because I just like read a bunch of books. It’s the same reason why I wouldn’t mind going to jail because my everyday life, work and then training and then this social engagement, that social engagement, see my family, I’m gonna do this is always like shit to do. I can never actually do everything I need to do on any particular week. I just don’t have enough time.

 

And so what the lockdown did was it just kind of like cut so many of those things off and I could, I was just kind of sitting there like, hmm, what do I want to do now? Like, I hadn’t been able to ask myself that question in years and I probably, I don’t think I really asked myself that question in a while and now either. And I guess it’s a good thing.

 

But I think like the deeper point here though is that like, for me, what matters, like my entire worldview, everything. What matters is blood.

 

And that means like Tom had this bit and it’s kind of like an interesting point. It kind of sounds a little weird, but he said the people that you are friends with, in a certain sense, your kind of like mixing your bloodlines because if you spend time together and you raise your children together, the chances that they might end up marrying each other goes up. So then people that you surround yourself with, it’s like a subtle form of like sexual selection, which sounds gay, but, …

 

Thomas Sewell: No, but it is. But you’re selecting your grandchildren, you’re selecting your grandchildren.

 

So when you pick a partner, you’re selecting your children.

 

But when you select a wife. I know everyone hates that term, but I just use it.

 

But when you are selecting your friends and your wife, your friends have selected wives and your wives have selected friends. When that community is being built, you’ve now got even more in-group morality, you’ve got even more in-group loyalty because it’s a true community, because you’re sharing grandchildren with the other people.

 

And so what the jews have done so successfully to our society is they’ve atomized the family into these little nucleuses, this nuclear family.

 

And obviously for most conservatives and most people in the center of politics, they think the nuclear family is the foundation of society and that these gays and trannies are trying to destroy the nuclear family. It’s like the nuclear family is a degeneration of itself. We’re meant to be tribal, we’re meant to be at that higher level, and we’re actually meant to be even bigger than that again. But there are these basic fundamental foundations that they’re destroyed and we need to take them back.

 

Beck said something to me really interestingly today. She said that they’re going so hard, there’s two pronged attack, intergenerational war between the boomers and us. And I bring this up because it’s about the destruction of the family and the destruction of the community. At the moment, there’s going to be the biggest money transfer in the history of Australia between generations, and that’s the boomers are all dying at the moment. They’ve started dying.

 

And over the next 20 years, they’re going to be dying. And that money is all going to go to the founding stock. White Australians at our age.

 

Blair Cottrell: Are you sure? I’m pretty sure. If they had a choice, they’d be buried with their money, man!

 

Thomas Sewell: The business, of course.

 

Of course there’s $3 trillion that they haven’t spent yet. So people are counting down the day of the pillow, but the boomers are counting down the $3 trillion. They’re trying to spend the 3 trillion before they go, and we’re trying to inherit the 3 trillion. I think it’s something I can’t remember. I’m pretty sure it’s something. Some ridiculous amount of money, because it’s basically probably the entire property market outside of a few wealthy Gen-Xs and the fucking property investors like the property development. It’s What’s the property market worth in Australia and what’s the percentage of boomers that own their own homes and how many boomers are there? And you can quantify that it’s probably in the trillions of dollars.

 

Joel Davis: And so you have to wait until you die to get their inheritance. Then you’re a complete failure.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, look, I’m not going there at this stage, ..

 

But because that’s controversial in itself. Well, maybe, yeah. Where I’m going with it is that’s why the jews are promoting hedonism to the boomers. That’s why the tourism industry is such a big, … If you invested in Flight Center when it first came out, you’d be like a millionaire now because that all the cruises, they’re all going on cruises, they’re all going holidays to Greece and this and that and the other, like the boomers, they’re buying, you know, they’re always going to buy assets and stuff, but they’re really, really just dumping the money more than their parents generation of grand parents generation did. They really live in large and they’re dumping the money.

 

And then the two pronged attack is the government’s also looking to tax inheritance as much as possible. Because what the jews really fear is the middle class, the White middle class, in the sense that when you’re working class, when you’re constantly at work and you have to go to work, you don’t have much time to politically mobilize, you don’t have much time to politically agitate, you don’t have much time and energy. You don’t have the spiritual freedom and energy to go after the politician and say:

 

“Hey, hey, hey, hey, mister, you represent me, you work full-time for me. You know, I’m part of the middle class. I’m not like some guy that has to go to work that can’t think about politics. He doesn’t have the energy to think about politics. Oh, just talk to me about the footy. I can’t think about politics.”

 

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But the whole idea of the middle class is that you don’t have to go to work. You go to work because you’ve got a profession and you’re a skill. You’ve got a, you know, everyone’s got a skill, but you’ve got this higher profession. You can go leisurely. That’s why they were called the bourgeoisie. That’s not the upper class, it was the privileged class. You read my calm. Different translation. It doesn’t say the middle class and it doesn’t say the bourgeoisie. It says the privileged class or the leisure class, because you’ve got the time to read books and read the newspaper and you’re not getting rushed, you’re not on a ding ding ding. You’re not on a bell like the working class in the factory or the coal mine. You go to work when you want.

 

Joel Davis: To go to work.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, do I have appointments? Say, oh, you can cancel my appointments. You don’t need the fucking of money. And the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Sounds like the lifestyle of the average Australian prisoner inside jail.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, that’s the conundrum that kings and all this. But exactly, exactly. Because that’s the other way of achieving it. Becoming a full meat, not having any responsibilities.

 

But the true connoisseur.

 

But what I’m talking about is the jews want to stop our. The millennials and the Gen-X’s. They’re about to inherit $3 trillion. They want to stop us from getting it because it would mean that we pay off our mortgages or would be able to buy a home or would inherit a home, and then we could do what we want. We can. We’re basically on UBI [Universal Basic Income]. We don’t have a fucking debt. We don’t have a mortgage. We’re not paying rent. We just feed ourselves and we can just work leisurely, and then we’ve got time to politically mobilize. The jews don’t want that, so that’s why they’re putting taxes on it. That’s why they’re telling the boomers to dump the money. Dump it. Just dump it! Go on holidays, go on cruises. Buy shit that will degrade in value. Just dump it!

 

Whereas the jews, what are they doing? They’re working until they die and they’re passing on as much money as possible so they can keep building intergenerational wealth.

 

So that’s something that should be considered.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we need to build White leisure. The jews don’t want White leisure. I 100% agree with that.

 

But also bridging from that point, for me, my children, when I die, they would have already got all my shit, basically, because I want them to have it earlier so that they can make more use out of it and already be passing it down, even to my grandchildren before I cock it. Ideally, because that’s what it’s for. Like, that’s what the whole point of making all that excess money is for, is for your bloodline to keep levelling up and ascending and so on.

 

It’s not to go on fucking 45 cruises when you’re 68 or whatever the fuck it is that boomers are doing. It’s not to, like, renovate your kitchen three times and all this frivolous shit that they get up to the amount of boomer renovations, although there’s drop like 40 grand to get, like, fancy toilets and shit!

 

And it’s like, what the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: And then they’re still not happy. They’re still not happy.

 

Joel Davis: The day of the pillar cannot come fast enough. Oh, fuck boomers! I can’t wait till they’re all right. Come on! Come on!

 

Blair Cottrell: We can’t we can’t just. No, no, no!

 

Joel Davis: Yes, we can. No, no.

 

Blair Cottrell: You just spoke to sympathetic grannies at that event last night who loved you.

 

Joel Davis: And they know, and they know. They know that all the other boomers are fucked!

 

Now, we need total boomer death, and it can’t come soon enough because boomers, they had it too good. Everything.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, they honor my ancestors, Joel. You will be smitten down. You’ll be smart and down my ancestors.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe you’re right. And maybe the reason I’m just from some misplaced sense of morality, maybe you’re actually right.

 

Joel Davis: Next. Ancestors. I got no boomer ancestors, so I got no. I’m free to hate. I’m free to hate now. The boomers created this modern world. This contemporary situation. Like, they partied up and we defeated Hitler. They gave the boomers everything. They lived it up. And now they’re like:

 

“Oh, these kids of today!”

 

Like, it’s because of that it’s literally because of them. So they just need to die and give us their shit because they don’t know what to do with it. They’ve been watching TV their whole life, so their brains are fried with television. So they have no capacity to actually think in the patterns that would be necessary to fix this problem. They can’t adapt.

 

They’re just going to keep voting for the fucking Liberal Party until they die and wasting their money. A hedonistic, self interested generation that accomplished nothing, like the generation before them that, like, won wars and fought in Korea and shit like that, they at least fucking did something to earn the respect. What did the boomer! What? You have to earn respect? What do they actually do? They didn’t do anything of any substance. They just basically gave away. Our entire civilization, had a great time giving it away.

 

And then, you know what boomers always say:

 

“Oh, yeah, well, I’ll be dead by then!”

 

You know how many times I’ve heard them say, I’ve talked to boomers about immigration, about what’s happening? They always say:

 

“But I’ll be dead. Oh, that’s something for you to deal with. I’ll be dead by then!”

 

This country’s going to shit up. I’ve heard this literally a thousand times from boomers across my life, I’ve heard.

 

Blair Cottrell: Doesn’t the thought of the fact that they’re going to be alive doesn’t matter. Code of them.

 

Joel Davis: So that’s why I wish death upon them.

 

Blair Cottrell: Mortgages. You guys heard of reverse mortgages? Jehu Hunt sends $10 and says:

 

“They’re trying to get boomers in the US to get reverse mortgages.”

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So to refinance their home and die in debt, but they get to spend even more money.

 

Blair Cottrell: And so basically the home doesn’t go to the children. It goes to the bank.

 

Thomas Sewell: So they paid off the home and then. Yeah, so they can use their home as leverage to holiday and live out even more.

 

Joel Davis: They’re already getting pensions bad. Already getting pensions. They’ve got retirement benefits. And the shit that they bought for eight grand. They bought their house, their first house for like, eight grand. Now it’s worth $1.8 million.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, they just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. My theory, look, my theory, I agree with everything, and I’ve obviously felt the same emotions.

 

Joel Davis: Imagine if you go down.

 

Thomas Sewell: My theory is pretty simple.

 

Joel Davis: Imagine going into the pub, …

 

Thomas Sewell: We are going to get the money. And they’re all your age, when we deserve the money. We’re going to get the money, and not a moment sooner. God wants us to struggle further. I’ve had the exact same thoughts, but we’re just going to keep struggling. We’re just going to keep struggling.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve got to play a little contrarian, though, because I had boomer parents. I still have. Why do I always refer to my parents in the past tense, like they’re still alive? Just ever since they moved into a different state now, I’m always like, my dad was. My dad still is. They worked hard and they did the best they could for me. I believe that they raised, …

 

Joel Davis: They raised Blair cultural, so they get a pass. Like, they generated, like, super Nazi. So they get a pass. They did something good with the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m just. Yeah, thanks for that, because I’m just worried, really. I’m just worried that my dad watching this or something.

 

Joel Davis: Your parents get, obviously, I’m speaking in generalities. It’s like, I speak in generalities, and then people get offended. Like, what? I’m like:

 

“Yeah, obviously some Italians are White. Obviously, obviously some boomers are, …”

 

Okay, but let me speak in generalities. You know what I mean? Let me just. That just get it just vibe, just get it. Okay.

 

But the point is that anyway, no boomers are watching this because they don’t know how to work Rumble. So it’s fine, there’s no boomers watching!

 

But the point of all of this is its really integral that I think our political strategy is geared entirely towards the youth. We’re not going to save the boomers. We’re not going to save old people. Gen-X might be dragged into a new reality by us, but really it’s going to be the millennials that are going to lead the charge in building the new kind of politics and we’re going to have to bring the generations below us in with us. That’s the way in which the movement is going to form.

 

And so that’s what I mean by, forget boomers, they’re dying anyway. And the beautiful thing about it is that no one is going to vote for conservative parties once they’re dead. So conservatism, the senorite will die with the boomers, and there’ll be a new paradigm. There will be far-Left, Mongoloid, mixed race, transgender insanity, and there’ll be us, and we’ll be standing, facing off, and that’ll be 10, 20, 30 years from now. That’ll be what the politics morphs into when the boomers are all dead. And hopefully we have some of the boomer money and some White leisure so that we can win. But that’s basically the situation.

 

So we don’t need to appeal to boomers. We don’t need to be like:

 

“Oh, don’t upset the boomers!”

 

The boomers are not going to help us and they’re going to die anyway.

 

So they’re not going to be part of the solution because we’re not going to have White nationalism next Tuesday. It’s going to take 20, 30 years at least to build this. So and they’ll all be dead by then. So they literally don’t matter.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Well, it’s been a good conversation so far. Generally, we browse through some relevant news topics, news articles.

 

Is there anything you want to bring up, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: There was a few interesting ones, actually. So I saw this just posted by The Noticer just now. It says, Noticer News:

 

“Far left terrorists firebomb and deface jewish MP’s Melbourne office. No arrest made.”

 

[1:30:47]

 

I wonder if these were the same far-Left terrorists that blew up Tim looks his car. It’ll be interesting to watch this story. Like, can the jews get the state to go after these guys in the end anyway? So I’ll read the story:

 

“A jewish MP has been targeted by far-Left terrorists who firebombed his Melbourne office, smashed windows and defaced it with political slogans. But police are yet to arrest the extremists responsible.”

 

You know, to be fair to the police, I mean, they probably don’t know who did it yet. Like, you know, it literally only happened. Okay, maybe they only happened yesterday.

 

Thomas Sewell: Bright pain as when they know.

 

But it’s the same group of people.

 

Joel Davis: It’s the same group.

 

Thomas Sewell: They have a signature like, I’m not a fucking.

 

Blair Cottrell: You don’t have own abomination turns on, you know?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. You don’t have to be a detective. Signature everywhere. They do the red spray paint, it’s. They’ve got a system. They film it.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s four or five when it is.

 

Thomas Sewell: The same, or vehicles they drive, it’s the same people. Like, we’ve built our case against them and the police have more resources than us.

 

Blair Cottrell: So they’re gonna be identified pretty soon, though. Yeah. Well, if it is the same people who have now hit this jewish guy’s office, it was a jewish MP. Is that right, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but to not like to arrest them, they probably need to build a case. So I’m sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m sure Antifa.

 

Joel Davis: I’m saying I’m making the point, though. I think that they will end up going after them because it’s like, it’s the jews. Like they actually got up.

 

Thomas Sewell: The jews, yes. That’s.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re only going to keep upping the ante until they get caught because they’re demonstrating an escalation in their activity. It’s almost brazen now. It’s almost like, Catch Me If You Can, motherfuckers. Right? So what are they going to do next? Like, is someone going to get burned alive in a building next like that they set on fire? They need to. It’s past time that these people got caught, I suppose.

 

So if anyone has the influence in Australia to find out who these guys are, it’s probably going to be a member of the jewish community that makes it happen. Uh, Australian government doesn’t seem to lift a finger to do anything unless someone from the jewish community is demanding that it’s done.

 

So, yeah, I think they’ve probably targeted the wrong person this time.

 

Thomas Sewell: The Australian government are the whipping boys of the jews. And they’re sick. They love their slavery!

 

Joel Davis: They just got on antivirals doing something actually kind of, yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: It was pretty dumb. It was pretty dumb. That’s a pretty stupid thing to do. Um, yeah, we’re gonna.

 

Joel Davis: I’m not gonna endorse what they did, but I’m not gonna complain about it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I’m not complaining about it either. I’m not gonna interrupt them making mistakes. Fucking idiots!

 

Joel Davis: Uh, well, what else have we got here? Um, most Americans want mass deportations of illegal immigrants, including 67% of Whites poll shows and I think 62% of Americans. So that just shows that we talked about on the show last week that like, the mass deportations was a minority position and now it’s like two thirds of the country want mass deportations of illegal immigrants in America. It shows that deportations are getting more popular. We’re seeing remigration getting more popular in Europe as well.

 

So we’ve got to start normalising these talking points in Australia because the people just haven’t really considered the idea of deportations and sending these people back. People just kind of view immigration in terms of politically. How many more new people are going to come in? And there isn’t even a discussion about removing anyone that’s already here. It’s like once they’re here, they’re just that we’re stuck with them forever, apparently. So changing the terms of the political conversation to say:

 

“Hey, wait a second, actually, we can send these people back!”

 

And the vast majority of non-Whites in Australia don’t actually have Australian citizens. Only a minority of them have citizenship.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what do they have that gives them the right to be here legally?

 

Joel Davis: Like, there’s various different kinds of visas and residencies and some of them are overstaying visas and are here illegally.

 

But yeah, they are on various different kinds of Visa classes and obviously they do naturalize them at a certain rate, but because the majority, because so many of them have come recently and it’s a process, a very large percentage of them don’t have citizenship.

 

So the state can very easily deport and get rid of the ones that don’t have citizenship quite easily. I think, like, if we were to come to power, or a nationalist or populist Right government was to come to power, we should start having a conversation about revoking citizenships that were issued after a certain date. If you can’t trace back your parents to an Australian citizen back one or two generations or something, and then, you know, we would be able to start revoking a lot of these fraudulent citizenships.

 

I mean, that’s the other thing that doesn’t actually make any sense. There are many East Asian countries or Southeast Asian countries that bring in immigrant workers or Middle Eastern countries. They bring in immigrant workers, but they don’t give them, like, citizenship. They just give them a visa, like a rolling working Visa that they can perpetually renew, perhaps, and they can live in the country and work in the country, but they don’t become citizens because the idea is that citizens are like, the actual people who are of this nation, not just some random guy who’s working here.

 

So the pretext for bringing in these migrants is always, well, we need help with this or that economic project. We need workers. Apparently, that’s how it’s always framed. They come here, they work hard, they contribute to the economy. And obviously, we’ve deconstructed those arguments about how that’s bullshit!

 

But at the same time, even if we were to accept it for argument’s sake, why do they need to become citizens for? Why can’t they just work hard?

 

Thomas Sewell: The liberal theory is that they’ll work harder. They’ll be more loyal slaves. They’ll work harder if we give them the piece of paper, if we protect.

 

Joel Davis: Them harder, if we give them all these extra rights to get free shit from us, then they’ll work harder.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, it ultimately backfires. Mom takes over. Mom eventually takes over. That’s what happens when feminine men and women are in charge. They become too empathetic.

 

Joel Davis: Another story that I thought was very interesting was I think, what? Have you two shared this actually? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Direct their empathy in the wrong direction. It’s not actually an increase in empathy. They don’t have an increase in empathy. They’re misdirecting their empathy to the out-group. That’s the correct framing.

 

Joel Davis: So this article here:

 

“Indian Meat Cleaver rapist is cleared of criminal responsibility because he, quote, thought he was in a video game.”

 

Blair Cottrell: I mean, yeah, this is not what it seems, but I’ll let you finish.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m gonna get some milk. I’ll be back.

 

Joel Davis: It says here Indian man. Yeah:

 

“An Indian man who violently raped a woman while armed with a meat cleaver and a choke chain has been cleared of criminal responsibility on mental health grounds after convincing psychiatrists that he thought he was inside a video game at the time. Katie Bulla Murza, 37, sexually assaulted the woman, 26, after breaking into a random above apartment in Auburn, western Sydney, November 2022, placing a chain around her neck, striking her elbow with the cleaver and slapping her in the face. He carried out the horrendous attack just hours after groping another woman’s breast in Marrickville and a month after indecently touching a woman’s backside in Zetland, his home suburb. District Court Judge Ian Burke found on Tuesday that the acts were proven, but that Mirza was mentally impaired and therefore not criminally responsible. He referred Mercer to the Mental Health Review Tribunal and ordered that he be detained in a secure forensic hospital or mental health facility until facing the tribunal. Judge Burke referred to evidence by psychiatrist Professor David Greenberg. Greenberg, who appeared as a witness for the prosecution and told the court that Merza had told him he thought the rape was part of a game and that his victim was another player who let him do anything he wanted. Professor Greenberg compiled two reports, saying in the first that he was of the opinion that Merza had a mental health impairment in the form of schizophrenia disorder, with co-morbid diagnosis of substance use disorder and PTSD in partial remission. This was partially based on a letter from a psychiatrist Mirza saw in India, doctor Meena Ganak Secharin, who stated that he’d been diagnosed with major depressive disorder with psychosis, abduction, paranoid delusions. He needed, quote, immediate and constant medical care.”

 

If he was in India with all of these mental diseases, how was he getting into Australia anyway?:

 

“He concluded that Mercer did not know that the acts were wrong, but after a request from the Crown to review additional issues, compiled a second report. Quote, in that report, Professor Greenberg confirmed that the accused likely knew the nature and quality of his acts and likely knew the legal wrongfulness of those acts.”

 

“However, he remained firmly of the view that at the time of the alleged offenses, the accused had a mental health impairment which had the effect that he did not know that the acts were wrong. That is, he couldn’t, he could not reason within a moderate degree of sense and composure about the acts as perceived by reasonable people, reasonable people at that time. Judge Burke wrote in his judgment.”

 

What the fuck?

 

Anyway, Professor Greenberg went on to say that in his opinion, yeah, it’s insane!

 

Thomas Sewell: This is like, yeah, it’s completely.

 

Joel Davis: It’s so demented:

 

“Professor Greenberg went on to state that in his opinion, the accused did not know that his acts were morally wrong because of his underlying reasoning, which was likely delusionally based. Professor Greenberg testified that inconsistencies in Merseys accounts of the attacks were, quote, not inconsistent with a man acting on a delusional belief system.”

 

So having a delusional belief system means that you can just fucking rape women apparently:

 

“Doctor Adam Martin, a forensic psychiatrist who appeared for the defence, told the court that Merza told him, The Voices kept telling me that if you do this, you unlock the next stage of the game.”

 

[1:40:52]

 

End quote. The person you’re doing it to, they are part of the game, that they were digital versions, that they were consenting to it. I mean, what a load of I do not believe this for 1 second. That he had voices in his head. How can you prove that any of this is real, by the way? Like, there’s no way to independently verify this. We’re just supposed to just believe. Hey, this rapist is saying that The Voices in his head told him it was a video game, therefore he can just rape who he wants. Oh, let’s just believe him:

 

“Mozilla also told Doctor Martin that he was followed and molested by spiritual entities that became part of his game and that he believed he was being controlled by an a installed on his phone and women had been sexually touching him. Even after his arrest. Doctor Martin concluded the accused would not have understood the wrongfulness of his acts because his capacity to reason with moderate composure was significantly affected by a persecution, a persecutory, delusional system which severely deprived him of the capacity to think rationally and where his ability to think about right and wrong was severely compromised.”

 

In my view, if someone has a persecutory, delusional system that deprives them of the capacity to think rationally in regards to violently breaking in and raping people’s houses and raping them with weapons, then they should just be executed. Like, this is not an excuse for a lack of criminal responsibility, this is just a conclusion that we can determine that he should just die in my.

 

Anyway:

 

“Judge Burke wrote his decision. Having reviewed the evidence of two psychiatrists, I am satisfied on the balance, balance of probabilities that the defence has made out.”

 

I mean, this is insane! I don’t know if I keep scrolling.

 

Blair Cottrell: Through it, but I mean, what he said, he claims to have been molested by spiritual entities. Is that what happens when you get visited, when you’re an Indian and you get visited by your Indian ancestors? Like when you’re someone like us, like your ancestors visit you, they tell you something inspiring or they give you some great knowledge, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like when your Indian and your ancestors visit you, they molest you.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, Indians molest everything.

 

So even the spirit ancestors are raping.

 

Blair Cottrell: But this isn’t the story.

 

Thomas Sewell: They go, they must rape.

 

Blair Cottrell: They rape like it says clear of criminal responsibility in the title. It’s a little bit sensationalist because what’s actually happened to this guy is he’s received an indefinite commitment to a mental health institution where he’ll be in there longer than he would have been in jail.

 

Basically, he stays in there the rest of his life, or until a board of psychiatrists all agree that he’s well enough to be released, which they probably, or hopefully never will. Unless they’re all Greenbergs and Steins, then maybe they will.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s the problem. It’s that Arkham asylum thing there’s this archetype, this jewish psychiatrist that diagnoses all these. I wonder if it’s the same jewish psychiatrist that diagnosed that nigger as schizophrenic and that’s why he raped all those girls. That was the court case before mine when I went to magistrate’s and he got sentenced to twelve months jail. And the jewish psychologist, I think, was a Greenberg, or something like that, said:

 

“That he has schizophrenia and he didn’t realize that you can’t do that in Australia. And he has delusions and he’s paranoid.”

 

And the judge was like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough.”

 

And then he got released after six months, instead of doing the full twelve month sentence because it was unfair to go given twelve months. He won the appeal at magistrate’s.

 

Blair Cottrell: Wow! It’s a one.

 

But there was a guy, I don’t know, there are a few jewish psychologists of other alternative opinions on the mental health question. I reviewed a book on another stream called The Myth of Mental Illness. It was written by a psychologist named Thomas Zaz, who was jewish and he believed mental illness wasn’t real. He believed they just basically made it up in order to excuse various, you know, vices and so forth. And he was used in a couple of criminal matters where couple of I think it was a murder, or a rape, or maybe both had taken place. And the defendant, or the person who had been charged was trying to argue that they weren’t mentally fit and that’s why it happened.

 

But the prosecution actually summoned this particular jewish character, this Thomas Zaz, to argue that he’s not mentally unwell, he’s completely fine, because mental illness doesn’t exist. I’ve touched on this. The reason I’ve reviewed this book and been interested in it is because I’m of the opinion, as many people know, that most of those mental illnesses are all in your head. And the mental health industry wants people to believe that they have some sort of mind disorder so they can get you hooked on drugs, right? It’s basically that simple.

 

There’s a marketing campaign out there trying to get you to think you’re depressed or bipolar or manic depressive disorder or something else, right? And there’s a pill for everything and your name is going to be on the bottle of pills. It’s going to be your new identity. It’s going to make you feel very special. I’ve touched on this a few times because I feel passionately about it seems like a giant scam that a lot of people fall for, which is, I think what gets my blood up so much.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s.

 

Blair Cottrell: So the point is that. Yeah, yeah.

 

But the point is that there’s psychologists of differing opinions. But I understand that the prevailing, appealing, the prevalent type of psychologist these days is the, yes, mental illness is real. Yes, we need to treat it. And all these people committing these heinous acts are just like completely delusional. I don’t believe that’s the case a lot of the time.

 

And I think the average reader of stories like this doesn’t believe that’s the case. I think it’s common sense that a person would know if they’re like sexually assaulting or killing someone that that is wrong, that they’re committing a crime.

 

Joel Davis: Like, they don’t know that it’s wrong, then we should kill them because that means that they’re just completely like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Look at that guy, look at that guy that stabbed those people in [word unclear].

 

Joel Davis: It’s defective blood. Like, if your constitution as a human being allows you to fall into that state of insanity, you deserve to die.

 

Blair Cottrell: You deserve, let me make this point. Let me make that guy in the supermarket, the guy in Sydney [Westfield, Bondi], the guy recently who was written off as a mental health case, he stabbed those people in a Sydney shopping mall. What area was that again in again? I can’t remember. Yeah, it was in Bondi. Yeah, he was written off as a mental health case.

 

But when you watch the footage, he’s only targeting women or vulnerable people. He’s not targeting men. He’s avoiding men because they pose more of a threat to him.

 

So if he’s like, mentally well enough or stable enough to understand what poses a threat and what doesn’t, then he knows exactly what he’s fucking doing. Like, so it’s bullshit! When they use this mental health thing like, it’s in order to get people off.

 

Joel Davis: Faulty concept. This is a faulty concept of the mind.

 

This idea that this is one part of your mind where decisions get made and this is what you’re responsible for.

 

And then there’s this other part of your mind that you’re not responsible for that can just have its way with you and has all these forces that make it up.

 

Now, I agree that the idea of free will, there’s problems with it. Things are more nuanced. People don’t have absolute full agency over themselves at all times.

 

But we have to hold people responsible for the totality of everything that’s going on inside their psyche and their outward action, because they are all of it. They aren’t just this one part that’s arbitrarily distinguished from this other part that doesn’t actually make any sense. And everything that is in there is because of the genetics. The blood, like, who they fundamentally are, defines the kind of person that they are.

 

So I don’t have any of these weird Indian rape demons inside my brain because I’m not a fucking. I don’t have this, like, demon spawn.

 

Blair Cottrell: Because you’re not Indian.

 

Joel Davis: Like I said on the Elijah Schaffer show, when I did his show last, we were talking about Indian rapists.

 

And I think he told this story about how he went to the servo, and when he was at the servo, he was trying to buy an energy drink or something or some bread or some shit, and he put it on the counter. And the Indian was so he was working by the counter, was so distracted by looking at soft core pornography on his phone that he, like, didn’t even acknowledge the fact that Elijah was trying to buy something. He’s at 7/11 or something, was behind the counter. And I was saying:

 

“Elijah, the reason why that happened is because think about how disgusting and ugly Indian women are the entire Indian genome reproduces itself through the generations by fucking disgusting Indian women. So in order to create a sexuality that will keep wanting to, like, shag Indian women in perpetuity and, like. And pursue them with vigour, imagine how perverse and, like, insane the Indian male sexuality has to be, like, genetically coded for by this, you know, franken genome that is the Indian race.”

 

So, like that explains why Indian men, they’re asking for bobs in Fiji and there’s just such notorious kuma rapey creeps.

 

[1:50:04]

 

Blair Cottrell: Because it was probably looking at what you call soft core porn. He was probably just looking at girls posting photos in their gym outfits to Instagram. That is soft core porn these days. The way girls are dressing in gyms, man. Fuck, don’t get me started on that. Like, that’s, …

 

Joel Davis: It sounds like you’re already started on it. You’ve already started.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d like not to get started cuz I’m getting fucking tired and I’m like almost ready to go. I’ve got to get up early in the morning.

 

Joel Davis: So we’ll do one more story because this story, I think is important to cover. And then it would just rip through the Superchats. This story on the subject of fucking pajeets. Again from The Noticer:

 

“Indian spies infiltrated Australia while our prime ministers covered it up and signed damaging immigration and trade deals. Australia expelled Indian spies who are operating with impunity inside the rapidly growing immigrant community. But successive governments failed to inform the public and instead signed damaging trade and immigration deals with the Indian government. Australia’s intelligence agencies became aware in 2020 that Indian operatives were trying to access sensitive defence technology, breach airport security protocols, and target politicians and a state police force. An investigation by Four Corners has revealed. And even when intelligence chief Mike Burgess, …”

 

A good friend, Mike Burgess, “we call this awful but lawful”. We love you, Mike:

 

“He publicly announced the following year that a, quote, nest of spies from an unnamed country had been confronted and removed. But then prime minister Scott Morrison kept quiet about the country responsible. At least four spies were expelled, some who had been working as diplomats at India’s high commission, which made headlines earlier this year when the country’s former high commissioner, Navdeep Suri Singh, was ordered to pay $97,000 to a former staffer that he make. He made work in, quote, slave like conditions at his Canberra home.”

 

I remember seeing that story. You, like, literally just sigh up.

 

Basically coerced this random chick to be a slave:

 

“Politicians told Four Corners that the number of secret expulsions put India, quote, on par with countries notorious for their intelligence operations, such as China and Russia, while Greens Senator David Shoebridge in India should have been condemned at the time.”

 

Anyway, blah, blah, blah. We’ve obviously covered on the show how there was just. Every time the prime minister would meet with President Modi of India, he would sign a new deal to make it even easier for them to immigrate here and to recognize all of their qualifications and just create trade deals that don’t really benefit us at all and massively disproportionately benefit them.

 

And it’s like, why is this happening? And now we find out there’s this huge Indian spy network.

 

So when we talk about the issues with these foreign races, it isn’t just that they smell bad and look disgusting and they’re irritating. In our daily life, I mean we’re talking about an enemy fifth column that is actively trying to use their diaspora to gain political leverage over our system. And the Chinese are doing it too.

 

And obviously the jews do it. And you know, it’s a national security risk to have all these fucking Indians pouring into the country that India is trying to engage in a kind of soft colonialism of sorts. They’re trying to colonize us, they’re trying to coerce our government. They’re trying to make us their bitch politically. That’s what’s happening. And they have 1.4 billion people and it’s just they’re constantly, you know, breeding and creating more and more of their devil spawns, racial kin. They got, they can replace this country ten times over and not even notice it.

 

So they are trying to shove as many Indians here as they can. And those Indians are going to be politically active. We’re already seeing them get politically active. We’ve seen America as well, the Indian diaspora. I mean there’s an Indian fucking prime minister of Britain right now. Indians have proven themselves to be very effective at using their nepotism and using the way in which they can ascend through the business community and so on to also ascend in politics. And so apparently they’ve got very sophisticated spy networks supporting them now.

 

So this is going to be a massive problem. Like there’s going to be a massive Indian faction that will take over a huge portion of the Labor Party, I would anticipate. And it will just keep growing and growing and eventually Labor Party, if current trends continue, will just become like the Indian Party.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well that’s sad. That’s probably true. You have anything to say on that matter, Tom?

 

Thomas Sewell: No.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, no, it’s getting to the point where like I’m almost ready to sign off but we got a, we got a few Superchats to go through.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: So did you want to make a start on those, Mr Davis?

 

Because I’ve got all the ones from Rumble saved here.

 

Joel Davis: You got the one guys? I’ll go through a couple. I got one here from Alt Cuperian who said:

 

“Unable to listen right now but wanted to make sure this got to you boys.”

 

Appreciate the support by the way. Some people have been complaining that the Rumble stream they had some issues with Rumble. I don’t know. It seems like it works for most people, but some people have issues. We are broadcasting on Odysee and Cozy TV, so if you have any issues with one of those sites while watching live, just maybe try one of the other ones. Gustavus Vasa said:

 

“Thanks, guys, for sticking to the true and radical message that will wake up our people. The bigger you get, the more our enemies and fools will try to steer you away to a harmless path.”

 

Blair Cottrell: We got $50 from JK Richardson 85. Thanks very much. Sends us a salute from VT, USA. Where’s VT?

 

Thomas Sewell: Vermont.

 

Blair Cottrell: What state is that? Yeah, Vermont. Yeah, there is a Vermont state. Yeah. Well, thanks very much for that. I’ve got a few more saved. You know, I’ve had to screenshot them because Rumble doesn’t really like the screenshot. The Superchats kind of disappear after a while and then I can’t find them. But I have screenshotted all the Superchats. Did you read this out from RSI Liberty? $25:

 

“Great to see you guys supporting eight other Right-wing groups. No infighting or petty territory.”

 

Yeah. Okay.

 

Joel Davis: 65 Stoney said as well:

 

“Is owning a home after bank shutdown still possible? Also, do they take your kids off you or anything like that?”

 

Obviously owning a home is still possible. Why would getting a bank account close, if anything, to do with whether you can own a home or not and take your kids off you? I have known of some people. I don’t want to name any names, but I’ve known of some people who have been nationalist activists, prominent, publicly facing activists that are well known quantities, labeled neo-Nazis by the media, that have been in a custody dispute, where obviously they’re no longer with the mother of the child, who is basically trying to screw them and take custody off them. And they’ve been able to use that in court, as you know, as part of their case or whatever, for keeping the kid away from the father.

 

So that’s pretty fucked up! So you could see it maybe in that sense, but not child services coming in and just taking a kid off, like a couple just because they’re a Nazi. I’ve never heard of that happening in Australia. Have you ever heard of that happening before? Tom?

 

Thomas Sewell: They have threatened it to the wives of the political prisoners in the UK. So not from Taola, but I have been contacted from a couple of the wives in the UK of the guys that got locked up and framed, and they haven’t had their kids taken off them, but their version of ASIO, I think, MI5, or maybe this, that’s their aces.

 

But whatever their Home Affairs, internal political police force is, have come to the homes while the husbands are in jail and said that if you, one of them was threatened, that if she tries to home-school the kid, that they’re going to take the kid off her, that they’re going to start legal action against her, that she’s grooming the kid for terrorism, and they’re using the same laws, of course, that they used against the ISIS brides on these women. So that the UK is about five years ahead of us.

 

So I would expect. I haven’t heard of it ever happening, but I have heard of the threats. So we could expect them to start making those threats in the next five years here in Australia. And I’ve made it very clear to ASIO and I’ve made it very clear to the general public, that’s when I become a terrorist. That’s when I’m going to start killing people. That’s just a fact. That’s not a threat. If you take my child off me, I’m going to start killing people and I’m going to encourage every single person that I know to also start killing people that are responsible, starting with probably the police and the judges that ordered for a child to come off one of us.

 

So if it happens through some dirty domestic dispute or something like that, it’s different. If you’re a junkie and you’re associated with the movement, you get your [children] taken of you, that’s different.

 

But if you’re just a lawful, honest man or you’ve gone to jail for some irrelevant reason, like you’ve been attacked in a park and you defended yourself and they go to take your kid off you. Nah, we had journalists. Who’s that tall jew, Ranger? Not Nick McKenzie. There’s another one. What’s his name? But he threatened to take Tim’s kid off him when the legacy dox happened. And yeah, that’s line that you don’t cross.

 

Blair Cottrell: How does a journalist threaten to take someone’s child away, he said.

 

[1:59:53]

 

Thomas Sewell: So he wrote in the dox of Tim and Tim’s gym, he wrote:

 

“That there’s a ten year old pictured in some of these community photos.”

 

Well, they don’t say “community”, they say “extremist photos”. And that something along the lines of that child protection has been notified of this and that perhaps child protection should look into investigating the this sort of abuse. So he didn’t threaten, but what he did was he encouraged, which is, to me, the same thing, to encourage other parts of the system to put that rhetoric out there and encourage other parts of the system to kidnap children from our community.

 

That’s the fucking line in the sand, and everyone needs to fucking know that is the fucking line in the sand! And I’m deadly serious. Fucking test us! You know, let’s do this peacefully. But touch fucking children. Touch our kids. It’s over! Like, it’s over! That’s the whole reason why we’re doing this, for our children. We want a future for our kids. We want a White Australia for our children so they have a home to live in the future.

 

So that’s it. That’s the line in the sand.

 

Joel Davis: And that’s also another thing to bring up on this subject.

 

So it’s so important to pick the right woman to have kids with. If you’re gonna take the path of being a nationalist activist, you need a woman that’s not gonna use that against you, screw you over down the line. And that’s also why you shouldn’t cheat on on your woman, period. But why? It would be really fucking stupid if you cheat on your wife, on our path and give her a reason to take revenge against you, because the state is not going to take your side anyway, even just as a normie, because of how skewed it is against men.

 

But then you drop like:

 

“Oh, he’s a neo-Nazi!”

 

In the court on you. Like, good luck. You’re not going to get much joy.

 

So, yeah, don’t fuck that up! That’s really important. Don’t fuck that up! There’s another Superchat here from Fellow Comrade who said:

 

“This is a $5 down payment for a nationalist ninja warriors course pilot episode.”

 

He’s gonna cost a bit more than $5 to make this show, man. But he says:

 

“You can battle Drew Pavlou and humiliate him on live TV.”

 

Well, I don’t think Drew wants that smoke. I don’t think he wants to fight me.

 

Blair Cottrell: So it’s unfortunate, but I think Drew would probably humiliate himself just by being on live TV. Like yeah, I don’t think you’d hide. I don’t know the guy. I shouldn’t say too much about him. I don’t know the guy that he just didn’t didn’t impress me in the Joel Davis debate. Not at all!

 

Joel Davis: No, no. He’s not an impressive person. Laura Tawny 777 said:

 

“Greetings from the US.”

 

I don’t know if I can read. This is in Minecraft. In Minecraft, shooting endorsements just, hey, they paid $5. I read it out. That’s it!

 

It’s always something is reading something out. J Who Hunt said:

 

“They’re trying to get boomers in the US to get reverse mortgages. It’s fucked!”

 

Maybe said:

 

“That when we’re talking about the boomerang.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I brought that one out when we’re talking about that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah.

 

So that was the credit to him. Uh, I think that way. I’m still scrolling through here. What? I hate how Rumble doesn’t put all the Superchats at the top the whole time.

 

Blair Cottrell: They just stay like, go away. If I knew you were saving them, I wouldn’t have done it as well. I thought I had.

 

Joel Davis: I’m not saving. I’m literally just scrolling through it. I’m just scrolling through it. Smarty 98 said:

 

“Christ is king scrolling here.”

 

And oh, yeah, we already had the guy throwing a Roman from Vermont, JK Richardson.

 

So I think that’s basically all the Superchats. Oh, no, wait, there’s someone, Odysee, Dirty White Boy said:

 

“Really curious about your takes on this. If a White power American, in brackets Anglo Saxon, came to Australia on the work Visa and did construction or something for a season and participated in activism, would you be pro-or against that, by the way? You guys are so incredibly lucid. It’s a treat when you stream.”

 

All right. For me, I would be. I would support it. Any White, any Whiteman who wants to come here and hang out with us and be part of the community who shares our beliefs I see no problem with that whatsoever! I mean, you don’t necessarily.

 

Blair Cottrell: What do you think when he says we’re extremely lucid? What does that mean? Lucid?

 

Joel Davis: Lucid. Lucid is like just aware and, like.

 

Thomas Sewell: Clear in the flow. We’re in the flow.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, that’s why they call it lucid dreaming, because you’re aware that you’re dreaming. Right. I get it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah.

 

Anyway, what do you think about internationals, international Whites who are over here? Can they hang out with us? Can they be part?

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, it’s happened many times before. Yeah. Usually we get emails or they’ll message the contact part. We get messages all the time.

 

There was one recently, I think was from two Italian guys, and they were like:

 

“We’re backpacking Australia. We’re part of fascist network in Italy. Can we come train with you guys? We’re just out in the country at the moment, but when we’re back in Melbourne or Sydney, like, we want to train with you guys.”

 

So, yeah, we have international contacts all the time. Want to see how our scene is going, just like when our members go overseas. Some of the boys that got back from different European trips recently, they. Some of them hung out with Golden Dawn or whatever the organization is called now, because I think it’s illegal. And they met up with CasaPound, and one of the guys met up with some Spanish group.

 

I can’t remember what it was called, but one of the other guys just got back from Finland, and he hung out with the Finnish. Finnish active club or active club Finland.

 

So, yeah, yeah. Always, always solidarity.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

And also, if you want to. If you’re a Whiteman and you want to move here, I mean, we’d like to have some, like, White immigrants. We’re gonna have immigrants more than welcome. Dirty White boy also said:

 

“I fucking love this monastery idea. I’ve been visiting some, and it’s perfect. Self sustaining, beautiful, peaceful, amazing! I’ve had this idea for years.”

 

Well, why don’t you come over here and build one, then? You want to come hang out? I get Americans all the time. They say:

 

“Oh, Joel, we love you. We love Tom. We love Blair. Only we had people like you in America.”

 

There’s a lot of great people in America, so it’s nice of you to say that, but.

 

But if you really feel that way, then why don’t you just move to Australia? Just, if you’re a Whiteman, just move to Australia. Or a White woman. We got plenty of single guys in the for you to date. Come join the team. Why not?

 

But, yeah, I think. Oh, wait, I got one on Entropy from Govlover, who said:

 

“Thanks for fighting for the White race. You three are my heroes. We need more like you in Canada.”

 

So thanks. Kind words.

 

But, yeah, that’s all the Superchats, so they were pretty fucking boring Superchats.

 

To be honest. It seems like no one actually listens to me when I say:

 

“Can you try to send something interesting?”

 

They just want to say, like:

 

“Oh, you know, we really appreciate you guys. We love., …”

 

That’s nice and all, but it’s really boring. Like, just say something else like preacher.

 

Blair Cottrell: I appreciate it. Right. I like. Your words are lost on me, guys. That’s why you don’t need the stroke and come on!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I don’t need any.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Anyway I’m egregiously tired, so.

 

And I’ve got to get up early.

 

Now I’m going to be in Queensland for the next few days. Uh, I’m busy on the Saturday. I’m helping a mate who bought a property up there around Gold Coast region. But on Sunday, I’ll be training with the boys. I don’t know if anyone watching this is from Queensland, but I think anyone who is anyone will already be aware that I’m going to be in the gym, at a gym just south of Brisbane on Sunday.

 

But if you do want to send me a direct message. You want to get involved, you want to join us for a workout. It’s going to be a big crew of us doing that, so feel free to send me a direct message on Telegram. It’s just at my full name without any spaces or anything. Blair Cottrell. And, yeah, we’ll hook you up. I’m looking forward to it. It’s an excuse to get some sunshine. It’s been cold down here in Melbourne. I like the cold, but I still want sun. The ideal weather for me, I don’t know about you guys, is just good sunshine, but without the heat, just with that nice crisp breeze. Yeah, I agree.

 

All right, lads, well, it’s been a good show and thanks, everyone, for tuning in. We’ve had high engagement, as usual. It’s great to see comments have been interesting. I sometimes am tempted to sort of tune in on this. On this chat and drop my own two cent in there.

 

But, yeah, I really appreciate you guys and I suppose we’ll see you all next week.

 

Joel Davis: There’s one more Superchat, actually, so I’ll just read it out from Fellow Comrade. He said:

 

“Wikipedia says Damien called for the de-racinafication of Australia last year. What’s that that about?”

 

I think what he would have said is that the globalists or the elite are deracinating Australia because Damien, he likes that word, deracination, but he doesn’t mean it. He’s saying that it’s a negative thing, not that it’s a positive thing. So, yeah, I think he just misread that.

 

But, yeah, anyway, yeah, yeah, another shitty Superchat. Thanks but no thanks.

 

Anyway, we’ll, yeah, we’ll see you guys next week.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know, what’s funny?

 

Joel Davis: He used to send, at least he’s not sending me Superchats about the last time he farted, he had a running joke. He, like, fart Superchats.

 

Blair Cottrell: But, you know what makes it even funnier, man? Makes it even funnier because Joel sets these shows up and he hosts them. He’s the only one that benefits from the Superchats, but he’s complaining about them at the same time! Like, all the Superchats go to Joel, and then he’s complaining about them, and I’m appreciating them. It’s like, I don’t know. It’s funny. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: It’s part of it. Look, it’s part of the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I won’t psychoanalyse it. I’ll keep out of it.

 

Joel Davis: It’s part of the show! Like, if you want someone who’s gonna, like, suck you off, go Superchat them!

 

Blair Cottrell: Vulgar isn’t it? This is what we deal with, …

 

Joel Davis: I’m going to suck you up for any amount of money! See you later.

 

Thomas Sewell: Good night.

 

Blair Cottrell: All right.

 

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(Comments as of 6/22/2024 = 279)

ChainReaction
1 day ago
ngl, i appreciate Joel’s brutal dead pan humour

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
Follow Joel on twitter and Blair, Tom on (telegram)

Tweets by joeldavisx

https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell

https://t.me/realblaircottrell

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@BMC1488
1 day ago
Total boomer death except Granniewaffen!

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WaffleStake
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
Wellerman

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
o/

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Happy Solstice. JoelBlairTomLove Love to all you Beautifuls MWAH

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
And I’m northern european stock.

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
90s and muggy here just the way I like it.

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WaffleStake
1 day ago
Brisbane is great in Winter

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
1488

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@SmutVendetta
18 hours ago
I went to the DMV and my number was I488 but it looked like 1488. My total for my shopping today was 14.88. The old Gods are with me!

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
Boomers aren’t the problem, they grew up reading newspaper, listening to radio, watching TV. No wonder they are fucked up!

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@SmutVendetta
18 hours ago(edited)
There were plenty of warnings that jews should not be allowed to own the media. They chose to ignore these. I don’t blame boomers (why blame the victim? and fight with our elders), I blame jews the parasitic agitators.

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My Awesome Channel
13 hours ago
Joel dislikes those who fund his chanell
Let that sink in.
Joel you fkn retard.
You don’t like donations for fck sake!

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@SmutVendetta
17 hours ago
Guys, keep in mind it’s great you have a bank account you can pay your bills and buy things online because of it but it is foolish not to learn from the 2009 banking crisis there will be a bank run and thanks to fractional reserve banking you need to especially get ahead of it. DO NOT KEEP YOUR MONEY IN THE FKN BANK!

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GRITCULT
1 day ago
Joel complains about getting super chats complimenting him lol. Must be nice.

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MajesticCasual
1 day ago
Looks like this was the flyer for the event and Damiens website. I’m still searching out the speeches but have to get back to work.

National Workers Alliance – Rowville VIC

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WaffleStake
1 day ago
Jester maxxing

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
I may have said that in jest

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
You give me the money bitch!

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
Best chat is the jester chat

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259

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Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
o/

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ChainReaction
1 day ago
don’t get Blair started on the heat…

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Dirty White Boy
1 day ago
I travel a lot to europe. needed a good reason to come to australia. im a builder

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DOLO
1 day ago
Cheers for the stream fellas. o/

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@Aus1788
1 day ago
Gold coast winters are great

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ChainReaction
1 day ago
Heil lads n chyat o/ o/ o/

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Randbot
quitting drinking and having you guys on a stream when? (rhetorical)

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(((The tribe)))Aliver
1 day ago
no slack joel

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Flipping heck, Joel, don’t encourage anyone.

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@Aus1788
1 day ago

@dirtywhiteboy
\0 Come over brother

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
*here

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
We’re having a heatwave hear in PA and I’ve been thinking of returning to a desert climate.

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Dirty White Boy
1 day ago
yeah. boarding a plane so the stream cut out right when they started reading

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Good to hear.

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Lon Awfully
1 day ago
that’s awesome

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@Aus1788
1 day ago

@Dirty
white boy still around ?

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Drew is forgettable. He’ll get fatter & die early, poor bloke.

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WaffleStake
1 day ago
lol Blair did the “And I’m not going to read that” JFG bit

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WaffleStake
1 day ago

@Aus1788
at the very least the kids would be subjected to liberal indoctrination

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
^^^^^^^^^^^^

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ChainReaction
1 day ago
^^^^^^^^^^^

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@Aus1788
1 day ago
kids get abused in government custody.. Are they not giving little baby boys to homosexuals now?

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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ChainReaction
1 day ago
in Soviet Revolution i fought over free speech, start taking our kids? oof…

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
If they try to take my neighbors kid I’m willing to go to the mattresses.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
They certainly keep dropping kindling. Which has me concerned too, they would have planned for it.

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ChainReaction
1 day ago
YES, there are lines crossed that mean it’s go time

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Seems fair enough Thomas.

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Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Fearful for Sam & Laura. WE MUST DEFINITELY COLLECTIVISE

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scoobyburn
1 day ago
the moment a sticker becomes a threat

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@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Vermont has the Green Mountains. It’s beautiful and full of Whites who know not of the spoils of diversity. They have the luxury of naivete.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
A little hyperbole here and there isn’t bad, but yes the situation is very dire. very very dire. If I’m generous on the positive side about 50% of the people I see when I go into town are white.

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@SmutVendetta
18 hours ago
Yep. Even in my small town I see non stop shit skin garbage. Every damn day. I used to see one once every few months a decade ago. We can take it back, but we cannot rest on our laurels.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
18 hours ago
Dude please stop replying to the live stream comments, you’re taking them out of context

@Ronnie
1 day ago
It’s a way of pathologizing White people (and selling them the cure)

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WaffleStake
1 day ago
i had a thought bubble the other day about the great reset idea. Did the wef deliberately shit up the idea to make the concept unpalletable? After all, wasn’t the NSDAP takeover effectively a great reset

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WaffleStake
1 day ago
they should try some drops

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ChainReaction
1 day ago

@colnolan
1 day ago
no 304s tho

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Lucid is Awake and Fluid

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@SammichLubber
sounds about right

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
ollow Joel on twitter and Blair, Tom on (telegram)

Tweets by joeldavisx

https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell

https://t.me/realblaircottrell

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
I tried telling The Woodlander, but he wouldn’t hear it.

ChainReaction
1 day ago
^

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
Beware what changes they’ve made in the law around home ownership.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
The problem of “freehold”

WaffleStake
1 day ago
true story

WaffleStake
1 day ago
Vermont= Green mountain

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Vermont

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
He’s my favourite BarsKeeper. I go into a trance on the 128’s.

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
Scary thought

WaffleStake
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
And uhhh The Holocaust is big business….

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259

ChainReaction
1 day ago
indians have discovered Aryan woodworking tools, in a few millennia they’ll be a real threat

@Aus1788
1 day ago
Australia is the perfect target

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
I love The Ayatollah. He has THE BEST intro since Iconoclast

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
India is like 1.4 billion dumb jews.

scoobyburn
1 day ago
bread like rabbits

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
LOL Tom lost

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
lol

WaffleStake
1 day ago
The Ayatollah’s imitation of JFG

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
Part of their training is garlic free for 6 months

@Aus1788
1 day ago
keeping secrets will be impossible

@Aus1788
1 day ago
The west will loss the next war just due to inner espionage ..

WaffleStake
1 day ago
Time for superchats….and I’m not going to read that

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
WTF how is that even possible???????? “Indian spies” – surely you could smell them?

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Blair’s Missus in a hijab ASAP

scoobyburn
1 day ago
star link into the Amazon & they all start jacking off

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
It’s
8:30
am.

@Ronnie
1 day ago
lol

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
Wait isn’t it environment that causes behaviour – surely it’s just the turmeric that has them shitting on the beach? :laughing:

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
They breed like sewer rats.

@Aus1788
1 day ago
I see the relation between aboriginals and indians

ChainReaction
1 day ago
Bengal monitor lizard raped in Maharashtra, 4 arrested…
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/bengal-monitor-lizard-raped-maharashtra-3-held-sahydari-tiger-reserve-1937027-2022-04-13

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Traumatic genetic memory studies are interesting.

@Ronnie
1 day ago
Jeets are complete coomers

WaffleStake
1 day ago
penetiatires is a Christian concept, before they existed, execution was the preferred method of punishment

@Ronnie
1 day ago
“Oppositional Defiant Disorder” is a natural response to anti-White propaganda. It’s a way of corralling and controlling White boys in particular

WaffleStake
1 day ago
it’s a Weimar condition

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
I believe in merciful legal executions of the criminally insane.

scoobyburn
1 day ago
psychology an industry of death, genetic failure more like

@Aus1788
1 day ago
dont they giver you the same medication for anxietyas depression ?

ChainReaction
1 day ago
Tom Cruise n Scientology called it decades ago… …now there’s a sentence u don’t read every day…

ChainReaction
1 day ago
and that’s how Victor Szas became a Batman villain…

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
flipping heck. So low %?

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
I’m in Pennsylvania and we’ve had a major influx of Indians. They’re like creepier browner jews and they come in numbers.

@Aus1788
1 day ago
Jews are sympathetic to schizophrenia as it’s their most common diagnosis

scoobyburn
1 day ago
2.5 million have entered & vaccination status is unknown, so what was the last 4 years about,,,, pure bloods

@NullDigger
1 day ago
show bobs saar

Rebbe Schneerson
1 day ago
LMFAO

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Aus1788
Aye. IDGAF anymore

@NullDigger
1 day ago
LMFAO

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Aus1788
Mine too, this is why when I go to the supermarket I only see one other white out of 200 people.

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Rumble hit 500 btw

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
My area is 99% white

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Aus1788
LOL

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
funy your just filming right in their faces. Ah thought you were in Nz

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Only White men have free will and agency.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Aus1788
That is reality. I’ve said this for decades: In an insane world, it is the sane who appear to be the insane

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Aus1788
The @ video was at Costco, Moorabbin. Mass diversity in that region.

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
that is insane

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
I am not surprised by that at all

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
Follow Joel on twitter and Blair, Tom on (telegram)

Tweets by joeldavisx

https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell

https://t.me/realblaircottrell

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
They come down on any goycattle that misbehaves at the end of the day. This is necessary; A farmer can herd 100 cattle 10 times his own weight, but this is an illusion, should one of them demonstrate he can be trampled at anytime, watch out.

WaffleStake
1 day ago
always has. Ancient Greece invented the steam engine but never used it

Forza
1 day ago
The Golem always turns on it’s creator.

WaffleStake
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
cheap slave labor inhibits the rollout of labor saving technology

DOLO
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
oy vey!

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Whatcha doing Rabbi?

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Their changings opinions matter, Joel.

WaffleStake
1 day ago
boomers are the most racist cohort in Australia though

Rebbe Schneerson
1 day ago
The future is RW AF. Faggots are genetic dead ends.

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
I had to remove that from YouTube

@SammichLubber
1 day ago
Parasites are going enslave Whites as long as we allow it. We must give them NOTHING!

Forza
1 day ago
A whip makes them work harder too

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Aus1788

@DawnBrowning
did a great video on this

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
100% mass remigration is easy.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@Aus1788
Don’t believe those stats, they make the same lies here in NZ but I just have to look outside to see that is a lie

WaffleStake
1 day ago
60 years ago, one million French lived in Algeria. They all went back to France. So remigration is possible

@Aus1788
1 day ago
So Australia is over 80% white?

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
Aye, I know. We’d have gotten to the moon by now if it wasn’t for cheap labour.

@Aus1788
1 day ago
the worse things get the better the solution looks

@Aus1788
1 day ago
so civil war

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
Who will make my lattè

WaffleStake
1 day ago
further enriching non Australians

WaffleStake
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
meanwhile employing foreign labour at those facilities

ChainReaction
1 day ago
LOL

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
YES!

@Aus1788
1 day ago
Obviously some jews are.. Naaa

ChainReaction
1 day ago
Dark Blair Rising

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Retirement Villages = Bleed Them Dry B4 They Die

WaffleStake
1 day ago
William Luther Pierce was a boomer

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
A common thing here boomer do in NZ is sell the family home, the holiday home and buy a camper van. They live in that before being put in a home leaving their children with nothing.

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259

ChainReaction
1 day ago
yup, BlackRock, StateStreet etc wants all the land so u can live in zee pods n eat zee bugs

DOLO
1 day ago
lol

WaffleStake
1 day ago
reverse mortgages literally blood from a stony

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
My mum had 2 cruises booked in 2020. Now her home is in trust for her descendants thanks to the cough. NOT ALL. SHOW SOME FKN RESPECT JOEL, darling

@Aus1788
1 day ago
should be an automatic death sentence for those words

@Aus1788
1 day ago
Stopping television was one huge step towards the Right direction

ChainReaction
1 day ago
that genuinely depressed me Bruv

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
gave them

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
My ancestors built 3 houses and gave them all to the jews

ChainReaction
1 day ago
Joel is coming, HIDE UR GILFS, lads!..

WaffleStake
1 day ago
Fuck your small boomers

DOLO
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
lol

scoobyburn
1 day ago
to avoid death tax make sure assets are placed in the hands of kin before departing

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
JOEL!

ChainReaction
1 day ago

@Aus1788
nah i gave up on that, when someone clearly insane and/or dishonest, i just block without a word or acknowledgement n move on, is par for the course

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
The issue lies in not the bourgeoisie class, they are the creators, the producers they create the world around us, the very reason they are under attack. The real issue is the goycattle farmer class.

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
happy days to you

WaffleStake
1 day ago
also consider how superannuation is pitched. Build up wealth until you’re 65, then whittle it away until you die

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
I never block people either so they know they can keep going with me until thye reach some variety of satisfaction

WaffleStake
1 day ago
Who remembers the Equity Mate Commonwealth bank ada from the early 2000s? This encouraged the boomers to piss away their accumulated wealth

ChainReaction
1 day ago

@Aus1788
yeah u might be right, a bit of mental illness too i reckon, a lot of ppl brain-broken after all the crap, is sad rly

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Aus1788
Does my head in. Ah well. GTSY

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
Found a comment of truth I said somewhere and haven’t learned to let go.. Bad actors is my guess

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
Eat, Bake, Sing did a lovely live from UK earlier.

ChainReaction
1 day ago

@Aus1788
it’s weird when u don’t even stream n u have rabid haters, only thing i can think is some ppl envy those of us who garner respect just by being ourselves n getting known?

@NullDigger
1 day ago
Boomers: Hold my reverse mortgage xD

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
probably trying to reply to me at one point… Happens all the time to me

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
The troll towards me is pretty hilarious! Quite nights are preferred though

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Aus1788
I had to unblock you. Flip knows when I blocked you.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
*resolution

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
Solstice 8am NZ time, 6am Sydney. I should make a new years revolution to stream every day come rain snow or shine.

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259

ChainReaction
1 day ago
hahahahaaaaa, gotta appreciate the loon-free days…

@Aus1788

Anglo-Saxon
1 day ago
was a good jew reveal too

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
slow night

Anglo-Saxon
1 day ago
lockdown was great for reading

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
Follow Joel on twitter and Blair, Tom on (telegram)

Tweets by joeldavisx

https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell

https://t.me/realblaircottrell

ChainReaction
1 day ago
ur fan club not here today? lol o/

@Aus1788

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
LOL

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
Yes! What has real value? Numbers in a computer somewhere? Or your family?

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
\0

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
I’d be upset if the jam was left on the Phillips

ChainReaction
1 day ago
nah but it’s true, a man who has no justified pride in himself is no man at all

Gretchen
1 day ago
we must all strive for badass level of operating o/

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
who put jam on the handle of the butter knife

ChainReaction
1 day ago
Joel is Joel’s number 1 fan lel

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Big head Joel

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
When I went from living with people to living alone for the first time for a period in my 20’s, I was hit with an awful clarity. That a lot of the things I was complaining about others doing, I did myself. Who left this cupboard open, why hasn’t the vacuum cleaning been done…

Dirty White Boy
1 day ago
hey chat are the hyperchats going through? they disappeared for me

@Aus1788
1 day ago
fuk ye

@NullDigger
1 day ago
The problem is you really can’t get another job xD

@Aus1788
1 day ago
< highly recommended @Crazy_Cat_Gentleman 1 day ago @DawnBrowning Oneday Dawn Browning 1 day ago @Crazy_Cat_Gentleman Do more electronic vids. I’ve learnt heaps from you. Maybe do 101 basics? @BlotOutTheMemoryOfJacob 1 day ago o/ ChainReaction 1 day ago the yng men i council i always advise to just take time to reflect n figure out what they actually stand for, where are their lines etc Dirty White Boy 1 day ago $5.00 I fuckin love this monastery idea. I’ve been visiting some and its perfect. Self-sustaining. beautiful. peaceful. amazing. I had this idea for years. Vettekid1488 1 day ago I’ve always loved nature and felt at home In it ..we lived on a small farm when I was about 7 ….used to love to walk the wooded area adjacent to our house … fun to follow animal tracks in the snow Dirty White Boy 1 day ago $25.00 Really curious about your takes on this. If a white power American (anglo saxon) came to Australia on the work visa and did construction or something for a season, and participated in activism, would you be pro or against that? Btw you guys are so incredibly lucid. Its a treat when you stream. Dawn Browning 1 day ago Tom was groomed @Crazy_Cat_Gentleman 1 day ago Was that someone a jew? Forza 1 day ago @ChainReaction I agree, the rage is real and justified. And I think once we reached a tipping point of getting people on side, then the whole truth can come out and we can throw romans and have as many swazis as we want. Secure the future of our people 1 day ago Repost and like the Twitter if you can please! https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259 Dawn Browning 1 day ago A lot of Tradies work for companies who have govt contracts ChainReaction 1 day ago @Forza.Blankito totally get ur point n have been hearing n seeing that myself, i was just born into NatSoc so hard for me to let go of the injustice n the fact we held the torch to this day – but yes, the goal n SUCCEEDING is utmost to me also Forza 1 day ago @ChainReaction What is needed is a total re-branding, there is too much stigma still associated with the past. As much as I love Uncle A that whole thing is holding us back. So much so I think it’s pushed by some exactly for that reason. @Aus1788 1 day ago Orwell got shot by a fascist for being a dirty commie Dawn Browning 1 day ago We were raised on Orwellian 1984. Being incarcerated / asylumed / Gulaged is still in our genetic memory? Vettekid1488 1 day ago @ChainReaction sweet ChainReaction 1 day ago good news is ppl would faint hearing abt NatSoc 30yrs ago, now even normies listen, so that’s a clear win in my eyes ChainReaction 1 day ago some people can do way more as an anon, yeah for many it’s an excuse, but for some it’s a valid strategy, some of us have been doing this for decades all over the world, wouldn’t have been possible without being anon – my 5c ChainReaction 1 day ago nobody has the top quality women that our movement has, this is undeniable n one would think it would give normies pause Dawn Browning 1 day ago Us grannies plant the seeds. Literally & figuratively. Gretchen 1 day ago we love our boys o/ Anglo-Saxon 1 day ago gigga nannas Forza 1 day ago based granny’s can be sent in my direction Forza 1 day ago G’day Aussies! ChainReaction 1 day ago @Adult_White_Female nanana, very good musings, at least i appreciated ur points Forza 1 day ago Crusader Quest>Ninja Warrior

ChainReaction
1 day ago
a man may dream

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
That’s true, you don’t know yourself until you live alone.

Secure the future of our people
1 day ago
Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1803734045387350259

Vettekid1488
1 day ago
hahahha I do that too …when I needed a physician I phoned their office and asked the race of the doctor and staff and said I won’t be using their services I’m racist towards non whites

ChainReaction
1 day ago
i get joy from everyone meeting me being weirded out that i’m a NatSoc n then slowly understanding over time what i’m saying – takes time n rational behaviour, but always happens

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Tom @ Starbucks…. frothy coffee

@lewpers
1 day ago
It is becoming clear that enough people are red pilled and know enough about what’s going on. The emphasis needs to be growing a real life presence now.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
1 day ago
You get asked to donate to “Rainbow Youth” here in NZ, take a wild guess what that is….. My response is usually store banning level.

ChainReaction
1 day ago

@Forza.Blankito
oh heck yeah mate, i’m a big proponent of gaining critical mass before ppl can larp, i’m no fan of loons throwing Roman’s just as a spectacle or waving the Hakenkreuz – to me that’s not just counterproductive, but disrespectful, 100%

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
AngloLuv?

Adult White Female – WPW
1 day ago

@ChainReaction
ty. super busy so a bit slow with those as of late but trying to post relevants

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Evening

@Adult_White_Female

ChainReaction
1 day ago
great recent posts o/

@Adult_White_Female

Anglo-Saxon
1 day ago
o/

Adult White Female – WPW
1 day ago
Great WP Mornin’ all! :white_heart: /

ChainReaction
1 day ago
ladies n gentlemen, the enemy:
https://www.gtvflyers.com/

ChainReaction
1 day ago
dissident movements sadly attract wackos, narcissists etc

ChainReaction
1 day ago
trying something GOOD <– that being the operating word

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@WaffleStake
Aye. Many things have happened since. It’s different for each individual.

Ethno Nationalist
1 day ago
o/

M88
1 day ago
\o

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@katana17
Thank you. A few people I follow still start with “what did you have for dinner”

@katana17
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
[Horus Live – European Freedom – A Tribute to Simon Harris – May 26, 2020 — Transcript]

Horus Live – European Freedom – A Tribute to Simon Harris – May 26, 2020 — Transcript

WaffleStake
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
kind of but he died at the beginning of COVID, which seems like a while ago now

ChainReaction
1 day ago
…with his tea and rum…

WaffleStake
1 day ago
should sing Wellerman on stream

ChainReaction
1 day ago
HIT LIKE & SHARE
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Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@katana17
Simon Harris’ passing still seems like yesterday

@katana17
1 day ago

@DawnBrowning
Thanks Dawn.

@katana17
1 day ago
[Red Ice TV – Nationalism for White People & Activist Persecution in Australia – Joel Davis & Thomas Sewell – Jun 15, 2024 – Transcript]

Red Ice TV – Nationalism for White People & Activist Persecution in Australia – Joel Davis & Thomas Sewell – Jun 15, 2024 – Transcript

Dawn Browning
1 day ago

@katana17
Katana

@katana17
1 day ago
[Slightly Offensive – Is America (& the West) Over? – Guest – Joel Davis – May 31, 2024 – Transcript]

Joel Davis – The Vibe Has Shifted and the Paradigm is Shifting – Jun 13, 2024 – Transcript

@Aus1788
1 day ago

@AngryRetroGamer
correct

@AngryRetroGamer
1 day ago
Mussolini failed epically in Greece, leading Germany to divert valuable resources from the eastern front.

Dawn Browning
1 day ago
Rumble says there’s 443 watching.

@katana17
1 day ago
Last week’s show transcript: [Joel Davis – The Vibe Has Shifted and the Paradigm is Shifting – Jun 13, 2024 – Transcript]

Joel Davis – The Vibe Has Shifted and the Paradigm is Shifting – Jun 13, 2024 – Transcript

DOLO
1 day ago
In his speeches he used to hold one hand in the air with a closed fist, and have one hand on his hip. Chad

@Aus1788
1 day ago
mussolini guy had a jewish mistress

@NullDigger
1 day ago
o/

DOLO
1 day ago
o/

Anglo-Saxon
1 day ago
o/

joeldavis
1 day ago
o/

Archipelago Woes
1 day ago
o/ from USA

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Lana Lokteff: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I’m Lana. Joining me from down under is Joel Davis and Tom Sewell, who are mass deportation enthusiasts. We’ll discuss how mass immigration is transforming Australia and really, the entire West. How did we get here? And what can be done about it? Welcome, Joel.

 

Joel Davis: Great to be here.

 

Thomas Sewell: I finally got an invite to the Cool Kids Club, so it’s a pleasure to be here.

 

Lana Lokteff: Let’s get into. There’s so much I want to get into, including the outrageous activist persecution that’s happening in Australia. Thomas, I know you went to jail for some bogus charges.

 

We’ll also get into that.

 

But I think a great place to begin is really to tell us how you both became a nationalist. What made you first start thinking about being White and realizing how race mattered? Everyone has a story, so let’s start with you, Thomas.

 

Thomas Sewell: I was born in New Zealand, to the dismay of all my Australian friends and colleagues in this struggle and my family, I’d say my father was a big influence on me. He wasn’t openly or outwardly fascistic or National Socialist, but he certainly understood the concept of race. He used to always complain about from a liberal, always from a liberal perspective, he used to complain about how you know why don’t the Whites get treated equally? Isn’t the whole point equality and egalitarianism? And he would always complain that Maori’s got special treatment in New Zealand or in the UK where he was born and where our family’s from, how all these Pakistanis and Africans moved into their areas and got assistance and help and felt like the White people were sort of pushed out.

 

And so I did have a basic understanding of race. Certainly the most radical conversation I ever had with my father was he explained when they had their honeymoon in South Africa and we had family in Rhodesia and in South Africa, and he caught up with some family and family friends.

 

And basically they were just describing why genocide. They were describing what was going on in South Africa, what happened in Rhodesia, and why they had to flee. And talking about living in these compounds away from the blacks, but having to keep guns on them at all times because there was instances where the black security guards would turn on the Whites. And at ten years old, that’s a pretty heavy conversation to be privy to.

 

And so that definitely helped shape a worldview of, okay, like, I’m starting to notice this. The next step from there was early high school and late primary school. I became pretty obsessed with history.

 

And as Hitler said:

 

“You know, first I came to love history, then I became a nationalist.”

 

So having a deep understanding of ancient Greek, ancient Roman and ancient German history or Germanic history, I just love studying that. So having that wealth of knowledge. These books are probably still in most school libraries, if you can find them. I don’t think they were overly political, but just having a base knowledge of these people, of our people, and what we’ve achieved over thousands of years, to me, helped build a sense of self identity, of self pride. And I felt an attachment to this history. I didn’t feel like it was some foreign concept. I read it as these are our ancestors. And I had that knowledge even back then. From there, certainly, I noticed the racial demographics change in my high school, and I lived in a very multicultural area that was slowly going from maybe ten to 20% non-European to about ten to 20% European. And this happened in about a decade.

 

So very quickly I noticed the collusion between the people that ran my high school, the principal, and all the sort of hierarchy of the high school. They were having business relationships with real estate agents and they were having relationships with Chinese developers. So they were the people that were running my high school were going over to China and having business meetings with Chinese people. And simultaneously, the property prices in my area were going from about 500,000. It was a pretty middle class area, upper middle class area, to about $2 million in a very short period of space. So I could see this collusion. And I was still only probably 15 at this point. And I started studying World War Two in history, and I didn’t understand why Hitler was the bad guy. I certainly didn’t understand that. I didn’t see or hear anything that he had said that was bad. After that, I was always drawing swastikas on the desk for some reason at school. I’m not sure why at the time.

 

Lana Lokteff: Your dad didn’t teach you that?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no, my dad is a like, my dad thinks Churchill was the good guy. My dad thinks that the Anglo Saxons fought the Germans, you know, for good reason, and we’re not speaking. He sort of believes that Boomer lie. My dad’s a boomer. He was born in 1951, and his dad fought in World War Two against the Germans. And my mum’s grandfather fought as a Lancaster bomber pilot as well, against the Germans and bombed German cities.

 

So there’s a lot of bad harming, a lot of bad karma in my family that we’ve done a lot to hurt the Germans and hurt our brothers in these brothers wars.

 

And for me, that was always I want to side with my father and my grandfather, my great grandfather.

 

[xx:xx]

 

But then I’m reading this history of World War Two, and I’m reading about Hitler, and I’m learning about Hitler, and it was just always in the back of my mind. And then I kind of fell down. I joined the army, and I fell down. More of a focus on the anti-Islam stuff, for sure. And I started watching Tommy Robinson, and I was always confused as to why he was waving Israeli flags. This is sort of going back to 2013 and stuff. And there was a lot of terror attacks and then on YouTube. Back then, YouTube was amazing! And I watched all these different sort of Hitler videos and Hitler Hyde videos. My favorite was probably one called the floodkams or Deyflutt Kampt. I can’t speak German, but that’s my memory of it. And I just thought, this is magical. This is mystical. This is something I’ve always been drawn to, the swastika. And this is just drawing me in even further.

 

And then there were some breaking points where I watched the [Ernst] Zundel interviews, I watched videos on the Holocaust, or the “Holocaust” hoax, however you want to put it, and Irving videos, Zundel interviews. And I just thought, this is all a lie. We’ve been lied to the whole time. And my instinct to always be fascinated with the Third Reich, always be fascinated with Hitler, was right. And then I read Mein Kampf properly for the first time because I had a really crappy copy. Someone bought me Mein Kampf in high school, but it was like a jewish version of it was only, like, 180 pages, and it wasn’t correct. I read it, and I didn’t really like it at all! I thought it was boring. And then I met Blair Cottrell.

 

And I believe Blair actually bought me my first copy of Mein Kampf. And I read that, and from that moment, I was just actually, I think it was just before I met Blair. It must have been a girlfriend at the time, or someone definitely bought me Minecarth. I didn’t buy it myself, and it was the Ralph Mannheim edition with the crappy footnotes. But I still.

 

Joel Davis: I just loved it!

 

Thomas Sewell: I just loved it so much.

 

And from that moment on, I engaged full-time. I’ve been full-time since about 2014 in White nationalist politics, in different versions, different variations.

 

And from that moment, I’ve just dedicated myself entirely to Adolf Hitler’s vision of Europe, of the Aryan ideal, the overman, the coming man.

 

However, you want to put it? I’ve just worked towards that ideal as best as I can with what I’ve been with the clay that God has made me.

 

Lana Lokteff: And you’re only 30, so you’ve been at this for a while at a pretty young age, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think I just turned 31, but, yeah, I’ve been doing this since publicly. Since 21. Yeah, publicly since 21.

 

Lana Lokteff: Joel, how about you?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, when I was a teenager, I, um. There were many, like, obvious signs that I would become what I’ve become, but I didn’t really put it all together yet. Like, I’ve really found racist banter and jokes hilarious and would often engage in that. And I remember. I can remember how old I was, but when I was a teenager, there was a there was a Mountain Dew pole, and they said:

 

“We got a new Mountain Dew flavor, and we’re going to basically let the people vote on what we’re going to call it.”

 

And 4chan hijacked the poll and voted “Hitler Did Nothing Wrong” as the flavor of the new Mountain Dew.

 

And I thought that was the most fucking hilarious thing ever! I was like, what is this site? 4chan?

 

So that was how I became aware of 4chan. I saw that in the news, and I thought the reaction to it was quite hilarious, and I was really disappointed that Mountain Dew didn’t go through with it. I really wanted them to make the Hitler did nothing wrong cans, and I wanted to buy one, and I was like, why wouldn’t they make that? That’s hilarious! Hilarious.

 

Anyway, so there was echoes of things I became kind of fascinated with, almost, like, pretending to be a Nazi for comedic value. Like, I was an ironic. I was an irony bro Nazi in our conversation. And, yeah, I used to have really long blonde hair. My hair’s gotten darker as I got older, but I had. I was a metalhead teenager and had long hair down to, like down to my chest. And we have this thing in Australia. I don’t know if they have it in other countries called the world’s greatest shave. It’s like, basically, you get people to sponsor you to shave your head, and then you give the money to, like, cancer research or something.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: So I did that, and I shaved my head full skinhead.

 

And then and then people at school, I was about 15 or 16, and the people at school started saying:

 

“Oh, you’re a skinhead.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yeah, heil Hitler, motherfucker! I’m a skinhead!”

 

And I realized the non-White kids at school, they didn’t realize I was joking. They, like, literally thought I was a skinhead. And they acted completely differently. They were all intimidated. And that made me feel pretty cool! So, like, I kind of felt this kind of pull towards Nazism of sorts, but it didn’t ideologically form my politics was more. I was more of just like a libertarian, anti-establishment. I knew that the people who ran the world were the bankers. I knew that politics was fraudulent. I knew that there was malevolent forces in control. I knew that a lot of those bankers were jewish. But I didn’t connect all the dots on the significance of race necessarily, although I was open minded, I just wasn’t really exposed.

 

And then as I got into my late teens. I started becoming exposed largely through libertarian Internet communities.

 

So this is in the early to mid 2010s.

 

So I probably became an ideological White nationalist around, 2014, 2015, because that was a time at which there was this really strong libertarian to nationalist or libertarian to fascist pipeline on the Internet. I remember basically, race got brought into a lot of libertarian arguments. Like, I remember arguing about gun rights, for example. You know, in Australia, we don’t have gun rights, and a lot of Australians have this kind of perverse pseudo patriotism about how we don’t have gun rights and how this makes us better than the Americans for some reason, because America is always having mass shootings, and look at all the shootings that are happening in America.

 

Lana Lokteff: We don’t have a lot more. Honestly, now it’s all the trannies shooting everyone. So.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. But I always thought guns were cool, so I was like:

 

“No, I want to have a gun. It’s bullshit that I don’t have a gun. I want to have one. I want to be out of if anyone else has a gun, I want to have a gun so that I can defend myself.”

 

And it just always seemed logical to me, I guess. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I believe in my ancient rights instinctively.

 

And so I was against that position. And I would argue, but then often, even when arguing with Australians, we’d have to argue about America, because America is the test case for a country that actually has gun rights. So when arguing about the United States, when you look at it, when you break it down state by state, I remember, like, there was this Stefan Molyneux video I watched back in 2014, the truth about gun crime or something.

 

Lana Lokteff: I remember that one, actually. Yes.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And he just went through how it doesn’t matter how liberal or conservative, each state is how. Because obviously in Blue states, they’ve got a lot of restrictions on guns, almost to the point that you don’t actually have gun rights in states like Illinois or New York. It’s almost like a European country or Australia with the way that the gun laws are.

 

Whereas, obviously, in the Red states or even Blue states that are quite homogenous, like, I believe in Vermont or something I don’t think they have that many restrictions on guns, even though it’s a Democrat state, because, well, they don’t have any blacks.

 

Anyway, the point is that that’s the conclusion. The conclusion is, doesn’t matter what your gun laws are the States that have a lot of blacks have more gun crime. The states that don’t have a lot of blacks have almost no gun crime. It doesn’t matter how liberal or conservative they are. It doesn’t matter what their restrictions are.

 

And obviously, we know that the crime rate is way higher with blacks. So whereas if you look at, like, White Americans with gun rights, their murder rate is the same as White Australians, even though we don’t have gun rights.

 

So if you want to kill someone, you figure it out whether guns are legal or illegal.

 

So, anyway, the point is that forced me to make a race realist argument, basically to defend a component of libertarianism.

 

And then I started developing race realist arguments from the libertarian discourse at the time about how you know why are they importing Mexicans into the United States? Well, because they’re going to vote for socialism, all these kinds of things.

 

So I started to become more racially conscious that if I wanted to have the my ancient Anglo Saxon rights, I needed to be in a country full of Anglo Saxons, or at the very least, White people who agreed that we should have those rights because that’s our culture.

 

And so that led me down a pipeline, and then I was already kind of aware of 4chan and so on, and that just led me down a pipeline where, after thinking those thoughts, it takes, like, three months, and ’m a “Holocaust”.

 

Lana Lokteff: Then you’re a Nazi.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah, exactly! So then I became. That’s what I became.

 

And then I had this trajectory to become an intellectual that I wanted to walk down the path of and so basically, I was reading books and so on, and I thought, if I kind of work through the system, eventually I can occupy a position in academia and then become, like, a based academic or something. Well, that ship is sailing. Yeah. I was walking down I was trying to go down that path for a couple of years there, and then ultimately I just came to the realization that that doesn’t make any sense. Like, as soon as I reveal my power level, I’m going to get removed from these institutions. Why am I trying to build a career in this trajectory? And around that time, I became friends with another Australian youtuber, dissident Right, youtuber at the time, who went by the moniker True Dill Tom. People might remember him. He deleted his account years ago, but he was kind of like Keith Woods before Keith Woods. He kind of had this youthful exuberance and intellectual bent and so on.

 

We became personal friends and he was like:

 

“Oh, can you do a podcast with me on some Julius Evola book?”

 

I can’t remember which one it was. I think it was the metaphysics of war or something. I said:

 

“Yeah, sure, that sounds fun.”

 

So we did a podcast and he’s like:

 

“Can we do another podcast? Let’s do one on, …”

 

Like, we did, like, Spanglers, Prussianism and Socialism or something. We just started doing all these intellectual podcasts, and I started to get a kind of a vibe for it. I kind of quite enjoyed the he had a big audience, so it felt good to be able to kind of engage with academic literature in a public way. So that kind of drew me into starting my own YouTube channel and doing my own podcasts and so on.

 

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And at first, it was a very intellectual thing. Like, a lot of my content was really based around academic subjects with an obvious political bent.

 

But then over time, I just kind of got, like, sucked more and more into actual activism.

 

So that’s kind of probably been my transformation is kind of trying to be a racist intellectual commentator, to just try to fuse that with walking the path of the activist, which is kind of where I am now.

 

Lana Lokteff: And the big issue we’re all dealing with is mass immigration, right? That is the big thing. Now I want to find out how Australia, like, what was their Hart-Celler Act? This is a question for both of you, because in America, we can look at the Hart-Celler Act. 1965, Gates of immigration just started opening. The floodgates were wide open. People started coming in.

 

Now, how did Australia in particular open the doors to mass immigration?

 

Because I remember hearing stories where they used to blow up invader boats, and now you’re welcoming them with open arms.

 

Joel Davis: You mean through legislation? It wasn’t really done through legislation here because the White Australia Policy was largely implemented bureaucratically when Australia was founded in 1901. The founders wanted to put the White Australia Policy in our constitution. The British, however, did not approve of that because they were trying to build an alliance with the Japanese at the time. They thought it would be offensive to them and potentially other non-White international partners.

 

And so they said:

 

“You can have your White Australia Policy, but just don’t be so explicit about it.”

 

So the way that it was implemented. Yeah, like, there were immigration and restriction powers given to the immigration bureaucracy, but then they just filled the bureaucracy with racists.

 

And so then there was literally people in the Australian immigration bureaucracy in the 1930s who, if someone wanted to immigrate here from Europe, they would send a picture of themselves and then analyze it, like, does this guy look jewish? And if they look jewish, they’d, like, reject the application. That would have been the coolest job!

 

But, yeah, but they also had dictation tests.

 

So basically, if anyone came, and the dictation test could be not just given in English, but they could just choose any language, basically, that they wanted to. They had, like, this list of languages. So someone could be non-White but could speak English, and so they just make them sit the test in French, knowing that they couldn’t speak French. They could just fail them.

 

So it was done in this indirect way. Then, basically, the bureaucracy got taken over by jews through the 1960s.

 

And basically the jewish community in Australia subverted the institution, got themselves in charge of it, and at the same time, political currents were changing. This is the 1960s. The rest of the world, Britain, the United States, ripping up., … Well, they’re completely changing their immigration policies, obviously, around this time.

 

And at the end of World War Two, we were kind of stuck with the Americans. We were in the British Empire. Obviously, the empire collapsed in World War Two because we won that war against the Germans. That’s why our empire collapsed.

 

And so we were kind of stuck now with the Americans as the British basically abandoned us in the region and the Americans stepped in and we fought the Japanese together. And then now the threat of communism was directly in our region, with, obviously, China and various other Asian states falling to communism. We were really involved in the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and so on.

 

And we were all the way with the Americans in the Cold War.

 

And so we were like, yes, we have to maintain White power in the Asia Pacific region. It’s so good that we’ve got the Americans with us and the Americans, like:

 

“Whoa, whoa, whoa! We’re here to defend liberal democracy. Don’t be saying that White power stuff to the Australian diplomats in 1940s 1950s!”

 

So we used to have a strong White nationalist country up until that point, but we were kind of cucked by international trends and internal weakness. Like, we had a liberal democratic system that became progressively more tolerant through phases. After World War Two, we started accepting Mediterranean and Slavic immigrants where we didn’t even really accept those. Prior to the Second World War, we had pretty much a Nordicist immigration policy.

 

And then a lot of jews came in.

 

In fact, American jewry funded ships where we were like, well, open our doors to Italians, to Greeks. These countries have been destroyed by the Second World War.

 

A lot of people wanted to immigrate. And we realized in the Second World War, we only had like 4 million people on this entire continent. We faced an existential threat from the Japanese empire. We need to basically, the idea was populate or perish. We need more people, and we can’t just, the idea was that basically the amount of immigrants we were getting from Britain wasn’t going to be enough. So they said:

 

“We can bring in some Italians and some Greeks and so on.”

 

Lana Lokteff: Some criminals., … I’m teasing!

 

Joel Davis: But then as we open the door to the Italians and the Greeks, then American jewry starts basically hijacking the program and funding a bunch of jews from Europe to then immigrate to Australia. They get established in Australia, basically. Then American jewry sets them up with a series of loans. They take over the property developer industry in Australia. they become embedded in a lot of political institutions. And the jewish community, which wasn’t really that powerful at all or didn’t really have any real significant influence prior to the Second World War, became way more influential.

 

The only reason Australia developed ASIO, which is basically our primary intelligence agency, was because a bunch of jews came from Europe after the Second World War.

 

And then they immediately infiltrated the government and started giving state secrets away to the Soviet Union. And the Americans couldn’t even trust us with basically secure information, and so we had to basically reform our entire security state, because prior to the Second World War, we had such a high trust society. It was so homogenous, we didn’t even need to have a formal intelligence agency. We just didn’t have any fucking traitors in the country!

 

So that was a big shift.

 

And then, yeah, from the forties to the late sixties, you just see this gradual kind of erosion. You know, this kind of globalist culture gets projected in, the television is invented.

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s like the same story in every White country, basically. That’s the same model at that point, right? Starts seeping in. Thomas, anything you wanted to add?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Joel’s got a very good understanding, very strong understanding of the history.

 

The only thing that I would add to it is all of the prime ministers at the time that threw us under the bus and sided with world jewry. Their push politically to transform Australia from a White nation into a multicultural nation or multiracial nation came. The crucial years were between 1966 and 1975. So you hear this everywhere. This is the same crucial years as America, same crucial years as Britain. And in that period of time, the jews had been in Australia in significant numbers, in enough numbers to properly, politically, mobilize for at least, 200 years. And that gave them the time to start building these lobby groups, these ethnic lobby groups, and they disguised all these lobby groups with all these different names. So they were called strange names, like Community Affairs or Lobby for a Future Australia, or they had all these, like, very almost meaningless names, but some of them were actually, like, organized lobbies for world jewry or international jewry or whatever, Zionist federations. And they had so many of these lobbies, and they just put a front man, like a rabbi in charge of each one.

 

And then they put all this sort of like the jews are very good at just mounting paperwork on top of a politician. You know, they just love coming to court. They don’t need the truth! They don’t need the jewish legal system is like, kind of the opposite of like a, what is it? Laconic or Spartan kind of legal system. It’s not really about who’s correct, it’s not about who’s right. It’s not about who’s thorough. And ten words can beat a thousand lies. They’re more about the thousand lies.

 

And so they just mounted all this paperwork on the government to say that all these different communities would benefit if we didn’t have such strict immigration laws. And there was a test case maybe ten years earlier where there was an Australian soldier, I believe, that came back from the Korean war with a Korean war bride. And it was national news. It was like the biggest travesty at the time. It was like everyone was gossiping about it. All the sort of low end newspapers were all having a go at this guy, basically for picking up an Asian. Like, one Asian war bride was national news back in the fifties, the good old age. It was like a test case, and I can’t remember the exact details of it. I’m sure someone in the chat will know. But the test case was, I’m pretty sure the whole country wanted him deported to Korea. They were just like, and I think there was a quote from one of the most senior politicians of the day that said something like:

 

“Two wongs don’t make a White!”

 

There’s just all this hilarious, like, memeology, like, racist banter is just at the core of Australian spiritual and political discourse.

 

And anyway, the real power that the jews had wasn’t in these fake lobbies. That was just all this mounting pressure is just so that the traitor in government, when he’s explaining to all the people that aren’t necessarily on board with his treason, he can say:

 

“Oh, but look at all this expert witness and expert advice and all these lobbies!”

 

And they’ve got this kind of like intellectual and legal backing behind them.

 

But really what caused the shift was all of these prime ministers during this time period and after are all multi, multi millionaires. If they’re still alive.

 

I mean, we’re talking in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And they own property. They own property.

 

So the jews took control of the property development and they let in these prime ministers on their boards as directors. When these prime ministers left office, they became property developers and most of them became real estate agents to China. Most of them would travel over regularly to China and they basically became prostitutes. Prostitutes of the property market. So they got paid more than 30 pieces of silver, they got paid in the hundreds of millions of dollars to change these legislations in the sixties and seventies to destroy our nation.

 

So that’s all I want.

 

Lana Lokteff: And now Australia is full of Chinese. I remember even when I was there in 2008, I would say that was the largest demographic that I saw, like:

 

“Oh, wow, there’s lots of Chinese people in Australia!”

 

I didn’t expect that.

 

Now, what is the situation like today? Because I saw this clip that was going around on time. you know, Melbourne 2024. We can queue that up. Plate. What does it look like when you walk around Australia now, demographics wise? I mean, are there areas where White people are a minority now?

 

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Joel Davis: Now there’s yellow flight to get away from all the Indians and blacks. So.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, because it’s not a Kumbaya fest with White people out of the picture either.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that’s the scale now, like the major, like when you. Sydney and Melbourne are our two largest cities. About half the population of Australia live in either Sydney or Melbourne. And both of those cities, I would say a majority non-White. Sydney, definitely. Melbourne may be 50 50 at best.

 

Lana Lokteff: I mean, this has happened fast too. I mean, quick.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. When I was.

 

When I was a kid, the country was well over 90% White.

 

And I remember areas Where I lived and grew up in, and I remember, you know, my first memories is like six, seven, eight years old. And just like, I would see one Asian and it would be kind of strange.

 

And now you go to the same area and there isn’t one White person there! Just total transformation at a very rapid speed. The last ten to 20 years in particular, the accelerator pedal is just a brick has been thrown on it. When the White Australia Policy was first deconstructed in the seventies, we fought this war against the Vietnamese, and we probably shouldn’t have done that. We brutalized them. All of the anti-Vietnam war propaganda was quite strong at the time.

 

So we should take some refugees from Vietnam because we displaced them with our imperialism or whatever.

 

And so they brought them in and then they started opening to the Chinese.

 

And, I mean, obviously I’m no fan of yellow immigration, but the yellow races maybe a little bit more agreeable than some of the other ones. I think if they opened the Gates and said:

 

“Hey, let’s take a bunch of immigrants from Nigeria!”

 

I don’t think that people would have been as permissive. Right?

 

So they started bringing them in first, and then when you get to the nineties, then maybe some Middle Easterners start coming in and then, yeah, that created a reaction, the anti-Islam reaction.

 

And now lately, it’s like, I’m going to say majority Indian, but it’s definitely the largest demographic. Like, statistically, Indians are the largest non-White demographic in Australia. They’re the fastest growing demographic in Australia. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them come in every year.

 

Our prime minister prostitutes himself to the Indian government. Every time he meets with the Indian prime minister, he has to sign a new agreement. That makes it even easier for Indians to immigrate here.

 

And, yeah, they’re just basically flooding the country in such a rapid way now.

 

Lana Lokteff: Are they telling you guys, just like in America and everywhere else:

 

“You need to celebrate becoming a minority? You stole the land from the Aboriginals!”

 

You know, we get that all the time:

 

“You don’t own the land, you stole it!”

 

You know, racism, colonialism, slavery.

 

“Therefore we get to flood you with the entire third world and you have to celebrate it. And it’s so wonderful to become a minority!”

 

Are you guys are getting the same kind of arguments thrown at you, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, more or less.

 

But also, they don’t even have that argument a lot of the time. They just talk about how great it is for the economy, basically. Now all the media reports are actually:

 

“This is really bad! It’s causing a housing crisis. We’re taking too many immigrants. Isn’t that kind of a shame?”

 

And then we have, like a fake debate about how should we reduce immigration by 20% or 30%. And this is all framed in economic language to make it as boring as possible.

 

And so the question of identity isn’t even raised in the positive or the negative. That’s basically the strategy of mainstream politics, because they know that immigration is wildly unpopular!

 

So they don’t actually want the debate to go where we want the debate to go, because as soon as it goes there, it gets polarized, inflammatory in a way that makes their position untenable.

 

So generally, that’s how Australian politics functions. They try to make Australian politics as boring, non-ideological, pragmatic and economistic as possible so that they can try and get the population to check out and not pay attention and not identify with any particular side of any issue and just keep basically narrow mindedly focusing on entertainment and their personal lives.

 

Australia is one of the most apolitical societies probably in the world. That’s a real big contrast between us and, I think, the United States. In America, whether you’re a Democrat, or a Republican, this is really, socially, important. In Australia, most people don’t even discuss politics insofar as they do they don’t really have very robust political identities. They don’t have, like, there isn’t very strong party loyalty in the average person or anything like that, or ideological identity.

 

So that’s more the strategy, I think. Yeah, like, obviously Leftists say that:

 

“Yeah, we stole the land off the Aboriginals. What right do we have?”

 

And there’s often, like, historical revisionism where they pretend like, as if., … Because it is true that in the 19th century there were non-White immigration. There was non-White immigration into Australia. It wasn’t actually Australia yet. It was still a series of British colonies.

 

But that’s the whole reason, actually, why Australia was created, because basically that caused White nationalism to grow in Australia. And the White nationalist movement basically demanded that Australia be formed, demanded this from the Crown, so that we could basically deport all the non-Whites and keep them out of the country.

 

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And the first thing that the Australian government ever did once it was formed was literally passed the White Australia Policy, literally pass Immigration Restriction Act. And they basically mass deported the non-Whites that were here almost entirely as the first act of the Australian government.

 

So they don’t actually mention any of that they just say:

 

“Oh, there’s always been Chinese people here and there’s always been non-Whites here, and they’ve always contributed to the country. And don’t they work so hard?”

 

And that’s typical kind of everything is reduced to economics.

 

Lana Lokteff: Now, you were saying that your average person there doesn’t really talk about politics. I remember that, too, when I was there, although I wasn’t very political. Yeah, maybe they don’t get involved in political discussion until, let’s say, you’re a White nationalist, right? Then it becomes an issue. I mean, what are the views on White supremacy with your average Australian?

 

Thomas Sewell: I would say the discourse has changed massively in the last five years.

 

And as Joel mentioned earlier, we have had such a surge in Indians in the last five years.

 

And I think this is strategic from the Australian government, and I think it’s also why the Canadian government is doing it as well. There is potentially war with China on the cards, and we have a fifth column of somewhere between one in 3 million Chinese people in this country, depending on whether you count citizens, permanent residents, students, or all the various different types of visas where they can teach yoga or paint nails or something, as a skilled worker, of course.

 

And so the government is really trying to. They’ve realized they’re unbalanced. When Canada and Australia talk about we’re the most successful, you know, multicultural societies. What they’re talking about is they’re gloating. They’re saying:

 

“We have most successfully worked out how to balance all the fifth columns so no one fifth column stands out.”

 

So we’ve got a series of fifth columns, so many of them that we can keep the table up. It doesn’t displace the table.

 

So what they’re doing is they’re pumping the country full of Indians to try to restabilize their fifth columns so that China doesn’t have this over. They need at least as many Indians security guards to lock as many Chinese people in the camps as they can, if we did actually go to war and to negate their influence.

 

But at the same time, they are flooding the country with a lot of Arabs. They are flooding the country with way more Africans than there’s ever been and that’s another factor. We never had Africans. We had, when I was in high school, I only knew of one African family in ten grid squares, and they were the child of some African warlord where we gave some African country $20 million, and the guy just took all the money and then fled to Australia and that was the only African in the entire Eastern suburbs that I grew up in.

 

Obviously, some of the other areas had been hit by Africans, the bioweapon, a little earlier, maybe five years earlier, but there were no Africans in Australia. It was like not even 0.001% of the population. And now they’re starting to get, I think, over 0.5% of the population. And obviously, you know, this sounds really small, but they breed at a very high rate, and certain suburbs, they’ve completely taken over.

 

So what White people are seeing, in my opinion, is they’ve seen a relatively “successful multiculturalism”. And I don’t like to use that term, that’s their term.

 

But what they’ve seen is a multiculturalism where it’s sort of Kumbaya. It’s kind of Kumbaya. It’s kind of all worked out. We’ve just got the boomers will say:

 

“But how good’s the food?”

 

And now our generation specifically can’t get a rental. As you put up, the mortgages are through the roof because the demand on housing is so high. Suburbs have been completely either Chinesified if you grew up in a kind of upper class area, or they’ve been Indianified if you’re in a kind of lower middle class area, or they’ve been Africanized if you’re in a really lower class, working class area. So this, every demographic, or in some instances, it’s been sort of like Arabs can kind of blend through the three.

 

Joel Davis: There’s rich Arabs.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, Pacific Islanders as well, if you’re in a poor area. So every White person in Australia has experienced the negatives of diversity by one or multiple ethnic groups. And they’ve watched these fifth columns take over suburbs. So especially in the last five years, it’s been so rapid! I think up until a couple years ago, the majority of our immigrants, even though we were immigrating a lot of Chinese, the majority of our immigration was still European. We were still getting, like about 40% from England alone. I think like 10, 15 percent from New Zealand, which again, was mostly White flight people running away from the sort of high taxation and “Maori love” that New Zealand’s obsessed with, my family and, yeah, so it was still majority White. Now it’s not majority White. And the area that I live in, outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, when I just moved here about three or four years ago, or actually it was before prison, probably four years ago, it was probably 10% Indian.

 

And now it’s probably like 50 or 60% Indian, and it’s just rapid.

 

And also, there’s been a completely complete different change in the type of Indian as well.

 

So when we grew up, I lived in a multicultural area, went to a multicultural school, and there were people in my friendship group that were Chinese or Sri Lankan or Indian. Their fathers were all highly educated. They were very anglicized. They spoke very properly with a very proper, so English or American accent. They went to international schools. They were kind of the upper class of China, Korea, India, Sri Lanka. They were almost always Christians as well. So that almost all of them actually got their visas through the Church.

 

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So that’s something that’s not mentioned much, but I mention it because I allowed to be critical, but that was the kind of Indians and Chinese that we were getting. We weren’t getting these kind of really low caste, fake educated. Like, they’ve got the piece of paper saying they’re an engineer, but it’s obviously a fraud piece of paper. They’re very low IQ. They don’t speak English, most of them, and if they do, it’s very poor.

 

And so people are no longer interacting with a Chinese person or an Indian person that is putting on the White flesh. You know, these Chinese and Indians that moved here 20 years ago, they had the White flesh on. They were skin-walkers.

 

Lana Lokteff: So they can kind of make it work.

 

Thomas Sewell: They could walk and talk and act.

 

And I remember going, I had a Sri Lankan friend in primary school, and I would go to his house and his father was a banker and actually worked with one of my family, friends who was also a banker. Like a branch branch banker and like your local banker, not like fucking some big jew and, you know what I mean? Like, anyway, not a tower, but like a branch manager.

 

Anyway. So and he would talk with this proper English accent and you know, he talk about all the things that we did in school, and it was like a skin-walker. It was like the Sri Lankan guy just acting and walking and talking exactly like us. And it was fascinating!

 

But now it’s just everywhere you go, everywhere you go now it’s just like you’re surrounded by thousands of Indians, and they’re all speaking Punjabi or Hindi or whatever, and they’re all on the phone constantly. So you go into a 711, and then you’re like:

 

“Yeah, pump six.”

 

You go into a gas station, you go into servo, and the guy’s like, you go up to the Indian, you’re like:

 

“Yeah, pump six.”

 

And the guy’s like:

 

“Ding, ding, ding, ding!”

 

And then he’s like:

 

“Sorry, what? Sorry, what?”

 

And you’re like. And you’re like:

 

“Pump six!”

 

And he’s like, dingling. Ding, ding, ding!

 

Lana Lokteff: God, that’s annoying.

 

Thomas Sewell: Day in day 8.98, 08.98, $9.89. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And you’re like:

 

“What the!”

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s almost, like, tricked you guys. Like, okay, we’ll have the best of these races come in and show you how awesome multiculturalism and diversity can be.

 

And then eventually, well, just let in the scum of the world. Right, and flood you until you’re a minority. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Lana Lokteff: But that’s not also an argument saying:

 

“Oh, we want merit based mass immigration population.”

 

Neither.

 

Joel Davis: We’ve just been a great argument against it, actually. It shows the pitfalls. I’d much rather have the terrible immigrants so that people become more racist and realize what we’re dealing with here.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

So let’s talk about activist persecution in Australia. I mean, and how bad is it? I saw Elijah Schaffer put up this tweet getting into a little bit about what’s happening there, and it’s like, America, you know, we’ve been de-banked, we’ve been banned from all kinds of platforms written about by the journalists and called all kinds of things.

 

But this is happening in Australia to de-banked. You’re getting banned. Federal police is calling. Was it gyms? And pressuring to cancel your memberships, even stopping by houses for basically wellness checks. Right? So how bad is it? I know they were doing some of this stuff during Covid too. It is insane!

 

But now they’re really focusing on nationalists again. Right? Have you seen this list, Thomas, you’re reading?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we, …

 

Lana Lokteff: We gave him this list.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ll let Joel answer this one to start with, because I’m not sure exactly how much we can say on this.

 

On the Schaffer question, because we did an interview with Schaffer. I’m sure you all can start off with and, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, yeah, well, I mean, as for the persecution of nationalist activists in Australia, it’s not as bad as in Britain. I would say the UK probably is the worst country in the world for persecuting White nationalists, other than, I guess, maybe the Russian Federation and Germany. Yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Russia and Germany would be the two worst.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But the Germans have kind of adapted because they’ve been under occupation for so long.

 

So they’ve adapted more to that environment where, like, I think in Britain, people thought that we had rights, and then they tried to exercise their rights. And people like Sam Melia are now in jail, and they’re banned from even, like, seeing pictures of their own, you know, children, babies, because they made stickers that were too nationalistic or something.

 

So obviously, we’re not at that level yet.

 

But in Australia, the basically the state has admitted the security services have admitted that between about a half and a third of their resources go on White nationalism.

 

Lana Lokteff: Jeez.

 

Joel Davis: And the rest goes on, I guess, like, Islamic terrorism and maybe, like, Chinese subversion or something.

 

Anyway, so, yeah, they’ve got however many thousands of agents listening to every single one of Tom and I’s phone calls and so on.

 

I guess I don’t know what they do. We’re law abiding citizens, so they probably. They have to waste a lot of their time surveilling us and realizing that we’re law abiding citizens.

 

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But basically, yeah, any little thing that they can do to drag one of our guys before the courts on some ridiculous charge. We’ve seen a lot of that lately. Tom is getting harassed by police who are trying to, right now, actually trying to put charges on him for leading a peaceful political rally down a street where no violent altercations occurred.

 

No one got hurt, no projectiles were thrown. Literally just marched down the street chanting, marched back, went home. Apparently, this is. They’re investigating him for the crime of, quote, “grossly offensive behavior”. So apparently, there’s a law now in the state of Victoria that grossly offensive behavior is a crime, whatever that means. So, apparently, if you’re in public and you have a political slogan that offends somebody that’s a crime.

 

But it’s not a crime if you’re a gay Mardi Gras and you’re dancing naked in front of children.

 

Lana Lokteff: That’s right.

 

Joel Davis: I might find that grossly offensive, but I’m a Nazi, so therefore doesn’t count for some reason.

 

So, yeah, it is pretty crazy! Like, the level of absurdity that they’re taking things. We have other associates who are also being dragged before the courts for, quote, unquote, “grossly offensive behavior”. I think in their instance, what happened was they had T-shirts on. The shirt was a chudjack*. If people don’t know what a chudjack is, I guess Google it. And it said “6 million. That’s a bit much, mate”, underneath the chudjack. And they were throwing Roman salutes.

 

[* Chudjack often represents people who are deemed “chuds.” What is a Chud? “Chud” is a slang term used online that generally refers to a dislikeable person. A chud is also someone who exists far outside social norms, and not in a good way.]

 

Now, Roman salutes are now illegal in Australia. You can go to jail for doing a Roman salute in public. That was laws that the jews really pushed for in response to us, basically, because previously, Tom in particular, was a very big fan of the Roman salute. Now we can’t do it. But unfortunately, Tom, do you do them?