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Ernst Zundel – 1967-68 Radio Shows in Montreal Discussing Israel and Jewish Topics 1 – Transcript

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Ernst Zundel

1967-68 Radio Shows in Montreal

Discussing Israel and Jewish Topics – 1

Sat, Jul 15, 1967

[The transcript is part of a 1967-68 radio show in Montreal featuring Ernst Zundel discussing Israel and Jewish topics.

Zundel says he got “a really good public hearing” on these controversial topics.

He says there was pressure on the radio station from jewish groups over his appearances.

Zundel criticises the argumentation tactics of jewish callers, saying they use “constant interruption, constant deflection manoeuvres, constant ridiculing.”

A jewish caller accuses Zundel of being “a German pro-Nazi.”

Zundel defends himself, saying he was only 6 years old when WWII ended.

There is debate over German reparations payments to Israel and jewish individuals.

Zundel cites figures from the German consulate about reparations payments.

A jewish caller challenges Zundel’s figures and sources.

There is discussion of German scientists working for Arab countries after WWII. (25:00)

The bombing of Dresden is brought up as a counterpoint.

Zundel suggests Israel should pay reparations to Palestinian refugees.

The caller argues this is impractical and wouldn’t lead to peace.

There is debate over Israeli retaliation for terrorist attacks.

The caller accuses Zundel:

“I haven’t heard you say a good thing about the Israelis.”

The origins of Ashkenazi jews are debated, with Zundel citing the “Khazar theory.”

The caller strongly disputes this theory:

“What are you talking about?”

Throughout, there are heated exchanges and accusations of bias on both sides.

The host tries to moderate and says “There are three sides to this story. There’s the Israeli side, the Arab side and the truth!”

Zundel frequently cites statistics and historical claims that are challenged by the callers.

There are repeated arguments over who has legitimate claims to Israel/Palestine.

The tone is often combative, with interruptions and personal attacks.

Zundel presents himself as offering a “German perspective” on these issues.

The caller accuses Zundel of anti-semitism and Nazi sympathies.

The radio host allows Zundel to speak at length but also gives time to opposing callers.

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Published on Sat, Jul 15, 1967

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(Words: 11,313 – Duration: 62 mins)

Ernst Zundel: This is Ernst Christoph Friedrich Zundel. I’m about to share with you what by now is a historical series of interviews, talk shows, tape recorded excerpts of radio shows and reactions to radio shows which I did in Montreal in 1967-68.

I used to live in Montreal for nine years amongst French-Canadians. Enjoyed my stay amongst the French-Canadian population immensely. It was a very interesting time for me in that I attended university in Montreal and was very active politically speaking. Sometimes four times a week at different places in churches, businessmen’s clubs, union halls, air cadets, Boy Scouts, schools and so on about political topics, mainly communism, separatism, and of course, my always and ever ready favourite topic, namely the swindle of the 6 million jews.

In those days, this was completely new terrain for me, as it was for everybody else. No one in the Western world publicly had discussed this topic very much and it was positively dangerous to one’s health to touch upon this topic.

However, I was writing a column in the university student newspaper and gave speeches at the university and so on, and always ready and willing to have an intellectual scrap, or whatever you want to call it.

I decided one night that I would like to discuss this particular topic on radio. And it came shortly after the war in 67, the Arab-Israeli war. And the reaction was so fantastic that I decided to tape some of these talk shows. Unfortunately, it would take hours and hours and hours to bring all the tapes that I have. So these here are really excerpts. The moderator of the show was a young English Canadian whom I have never met to this day, certainly only knew from the air, never even spoke in private via the telephone, always only while we were on the air or during commercial breaks. He was about my age, and later on I heard through somebody at the radio station that his father was in fact an RCMP, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police captain.

Now, I have no idea if this was the reason why this young man was allowing me so much airtime. It was an absolutely incredible situation in that he did allow me sometimes five hours of often very little interrupted time to expostulate and to expound my outlooks and theories on life. So much so as can be deducted later on from some of the statements made by jewish scholars who are complaining about the amount of airtime that I got.

He was a very kind fellow. I thought he was eminently fair. And for the first time I felt that the gentile side, or certainly my side or the German side of this issue got a really good public hearing and a good airing.

This issue that we are discussing in the following tape the Arab-Israeli dispute and the German reparations payment was so intensely and intensively discussed that delegations from the Canadian jewish Congress and from the Israeli consulate used to visit the radio station, putting all kinds of pressure on that radio station. And it’s again evident by what the moderator later on is saying when he repeats that he has had death threats and assassination threats, boycott threats and so on.

Also it is evident from the reaction of the jewish callers themselves. I would like to draw your attention to the fact of argumentation, how the jewish community of Montreal, both young and old, European and Canadian, male and female, of how they argue, the tactics and the methods that they employ. It is a tremendous lesson to be learnt.

All the hate and the vilification that can be mustered against an individual totally unknown to them, except for what is being said on the radio comes through there. You can see the intolerance towards me and towards things German. You can also see how impolite these people are in that they constantly interrupt me in this particular case. And they would do the same with other Gentiles, never to allow us to bring a thought, to develop it and to draw it to a logical conclusion. Constant interruption, constant deflection manoeuvres, constant ridiculing!

And another interesting feature of the discussion is obviously always the attack from the jewish side against the individual that is launching some kind of an idea. Never so much as to the content of the idea. Usually the attempt is made to destroy, in effect, the accuser. And I’m called a Nazi, a Neo-Nazi, a German, in the most hateful undertones, and men and women alike. It is very interesting.

The man is desperate and asked me during a commercial break to please come to his rescue. This is Mr Bell, the moderator, and to say something nice about the Israelis. Not that I had said anything that wasn’t nice, but he thought I should get him off the hook and get some of the pressure off him by stating my case of what the heck I was really driving at. Because he was being accused on air, off air, by the station manager and by the station employees, many of them who were jewish, of being an anti-semite of the worst kind!

And so that young man was desperate. And since he treated me very fairly, I also came out to take the pressure off him with one of my statements about my policy on Israel and so on.

Now, when one listens to this whole tape, I want to be specifically reminding you, listen to what happens to statistics when money is discussed. Statistics, sums of money, sums of people and so on. Money and numbers of money and amounts of dollars and amounts of people have nothing to do in the discussion on the airwaves. People get lost, confused! Just listen to the pauses in the argumentation whenever we are discussing different statistical facts and so on. This is a very important point.

[09:19]

In closing, I will have to point out yet again that the station manager was forced to have flown by a special courier plane every morning the five hour long tapes to the board of broadcast governors at that time in Ottawa, the capital of Canada. And these men would sit there and listen to the argumentation going on because the president of the Canadian Jewish Congress, Dean Maxwell Cohen, had stated in front of a Senate committee at the time that Ernst Zundel was:

“Poisoning the air and pitting jew against gentile.”

And so on in Canadian society. And the station was under threat to lose its licence. In effect, what happened, the programme was pushed back towards very late at night. The times were changed for the program. Sponsors were lost. This young man, Mr. Bell, in effect was again fired from his job, lost his livelihood and the station closed this particular talk show down!

Once again, jewish pressure had succeeded in silencing a voice. Listen to the tapes now.

[Start of radio show recording]

Ernst Zundel: An inexpensive way for Israel of gaining allies and of undermining Nasser and the other high hats. The $1 billions. This is pretty close to what the war costs currently. New budget came out in Israel and it allocates 37% of the total budget of the state of Israel for defense.

Radio Host: Right. Okay, there’s a call on the line now. And I don’t know whether this caller has figures or opinions.

Hello?

Caller 1: Hello? Hello. Yes, I want to explain something. This man who is talking to you is a German pro-Nazi, you understand? I know him. I don’t understand why you’re so interested in these stories.

Ernst Zundel: Well, is there a law against being interested in those stories?

Caller 1: I know that you are pro-Nazi German.

Ernst Zundel: It’s wonderful how you throw labels around. What are you?

You want to declare yourself? What you are?

Caller 1: Don’t try to come out and [words unclear] Speak to him. You’re in Canada, you’re not in Germany.

Ernst Zundel: I know I’m in Canada, that’s why I’m speaking Over The Airwaves here.

Caller 1: No, come on! Here you understand. Go to Adolf [word unclear]. You are pro-Nazi. I know who you are.

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, you are pretty rude, sir. Truth hurts doesn’t it?

Caller 1: You try to come out to Mr. Bell, but you never have a truth.

Ernst Zundel: Very true. I don’t have a chance with Mr. Bell.

Caller 1: Right. You are a pro-Nazi. Go to [word unclear] Okay?

Ernst Zundel: Maybe it indicates something. Maybe it indicates something.

[Caller hangs up]

Radio Host: Now we’re dealing right now with some figures that are contrary to figures I have. And we’re getting callers. You have a few calls to take here.

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Radio Host: Now, I don’t know if anyone has any figures against the figures you have, which you got from the consulate here. This is not the first time that whether you are on the air or off the air, that someone has accused you of being a Neo-Nazi or something. How do you react to that?

Ernst Zundel: Well, of course, being a German, they think it sticks.

But I would like to remind them that I was born in 1939. That made me exactly, let’s say three years old when Hitler was at his supreme. It made me six years old when the Allies liberated us. Moroccan troops and Algerian troops. And I had three sisters at the time. And I would like to tell those people how it felt to be liberated as a 6 year old boy. I also saw 141 bullet holes where my mother was chased across a field By a, [word unclear] you know.

Radio Host: Algerian and Moroccan troops. Where were you? Where were you exactly?

Ernst Zundel: Black Forest.

Radio Host: In the Black Forest?

Ernst Zundel: Maybe Freudenstadt, was burned down completely. The hospital city of Freudenstadt is about half an hour away from where I was born. Neighbor city of Portheim was bombed in February and, 20,000 people got killed in one night. All that as a boy. You never forget those things, the sirens wailing, the bombers coming across and everything else, you know.

Anyways, I was 6 years old when the war was over. Now I have a boy, he’s 8 years old. If I were to ask him, are you a conservative or liberal? He wouldn’t know. Certainly was no card carrying member of the Nazi party. I immigrated to Canada at the youth of 19, not even. I have been here for the last 10 years.

So I don’t quite see why I should go and discuss my ideas on the Middle East with Mr. Fontaine. As a matter of fact, I think it’s very intolerant from the man they called. Am I any less a Canadian because I am of German origin? I would like to remind this man that we are Canada’s third largest ethnic group by far. That we are far more numerous than the Ukrainians and that we are far more numerous than the jewish Canadians.

In other words, I have just as much legitimate right to be discussing anything that I believe, including the Middle East.

Radio Host: Right. Well, you don’t feel that you’re anti-Israeli?

Ernst Zundel: No, I’m not. No, I’m not anti-Israeli.

But as I always say in every discussion, there is not only two sides to a coin, there is three sides to a coin.

Radio Host: That’s what I say.

[15:08]

Ernst Zundel: And if I look at the Middle East, I look at those hapless Arabs in their tents and those Arab soldiers, I know they have no axe to grind against Israel. They are victims of very emotional propaganda, because anybody that has a short wave receiver can pick it up. The operator of Radio Cairo. And the argument always emanating from Cairo is:

“That the jews have stolen your land and that’s why you are living in misery and in poverty.”

That’s why your Radio Cairo is lying.

So [word unclear] last week called and suggested that possibly a way out for the Israelis would be to pay a settlement to those people that lost their home, and their fields, in their stores in 1948 and possibly 1953. Is that a crime? Is that unreasonable? Is that being Nazi? I don’t see so.

Radio Host: Well, I think we have a gentleman on the line that you were talking with originally.

Sir?

Caller 1: Yes.

Radio Host: You’re on the air.

Caller 1: Okay.

Ernst Zundel: Yes.

Caller 1: Okay. Now, I don’t know about what you were when you were six, but you’re not six now. So the fact that you were six when Hitler was in power doesn’t have any logical reference to what you might be. Now, I’m not saying what you are or are not, but that has as illogical as an argument.

Let me ask you this.

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

Caller 1: You say that two things. In the first place, you gave a figure, incidentally, I’m the chap you spoke to you last week.

Ernst Zundel: Right. I recognise your voice.

Caller 1: You gave a figure that a certain number of billions of dollars was paid to individuals, right. In Israel. What was that figure?

Ernst Zundel: According to the German consulate, it’s seven billion.

Caller 1: Seven billion?

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Caller 1: Now, how many jews were in Germany in 1933? German jews?

Ernst Zundel: 680,000.

Caller 1: How many German jews were killed by the Nazis?

Ernst Zundel: I think the figure is 320,000.

Caller 1: Well, I have a figure for you.

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Caller 1: It’s a very large one. In fact, I think it’s a bit exaggerated. But even if that’s a true figure., …

Ernst Zundel: How much is it?

Caller 1: About 100,000 German refugees, German jews were left after the war. I think that’s a high figure, but I’m not sure. But even if that’s a high figure, if they all went to Israel, which they didn’t do, you see, if they all went to Israel, which they didn’t do, and if they were all paid according to you, they would all, by my calculation, they would all receive, have received about $55,000 a piece!

Ernst Zundel: Just a moment, sir. Just a moment. I know figures.

Caller 1: Let me ask you this now.

Ernst Zundel: No, just you let me answer you right back.

Caller 1: Okay.

Ernst Zundel: So we don’t get off the track here.

Caller 1: Okay.

Ernst Zundel: The missing 200,000 or 250,000. Between my figure and your figure. Did you ever think that many jews between 1933 and 1938 went to Czechoslovakia?

Caller 1: Are you kidding?

Ernst Zundel: No, I’m not on that. I’m dead serious, man! I can bring you very [words unclear] that went to Czechoslovakia and that went to Vienna and that went to France and that went to, …

Caller 1: Are you kidding?

Ernst Zundel: I’m dead serious.

Caller 1: How can you be. How can you be. How can you be dead serious?

Ernst Zundel: Okay, we have a very prominent Montreal journalist that is always interviewed, that writes for many tourist papers. If Mr. Bell wants to pass the name up, I’ll give you the name. He left Germany in 1933.

Caller 1: Of course. Of course, there was some. But it required a great deal of money and they had to leave most of their property behind.

Ernst Zundel: But he didn’t. This man’s father didn’t.

Caller 1: Yeah, well, you have an individual case.

Ernst Zundel: Just a moment.

Caller 1: You have an individual case.

Okay, so how many were left? 300,000, you say. If there are 300,000 German jews left.

Ernst Zundel: No, I didn’t say that. The figures that, as you said to yourself, there are some exaggerated figures.

Caller 1: No, no, my figures exaggerated 100,000. I think it was very much fewer. But even if it’s 100,000, that would give each one of them $55,000. Is that what they got in reparations from Germany?

Ernst Zundel: Sir, I didn’t count the money. All I did is some research. Told the authorities that paid the money and that had the money on the book.

Caller 1: Now, did you go to the people who received the money?

Ernst Zundel: No, sir, I didn’t try to.

Caller 1: Well, let me give you some advice. If you go down the street from the West German consulate, there’s the Israeli consulate.

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Caller 1: Why didn’t you bother to take the figures that you got from the German consulate down to the Israeli consulate, and ask them if they put the same interpretation or indeed if they have the same figures that you got from the Germans? Does that ever occur to you? If you’re a journalist?

Radio Host: That’s a fairly good idea.

Caller 1: You’re a journalist, aren’t you?

Ernst Zundel: Yes, sir, it has occurred to me.

Caller 1: Well, before you get on the earth, before you send any stories to any newspapers, before you publish anything, go and check your figures from both sources. You say stories have two sides, and these three sides!

Ernst Zundel: Would the New York Times be a good source for accurate information?

Caller 1: I just told you what to do. And why didn’t you go to the Israeli consulate?

[20:05]

Ernst Zundel: Sir, would the New York Times you good source?

Caller 1: No, I don’t trust. I don’t trust any newspaper.

Ernst Zundel: Don’t eh?

Caller 1: No.

Ernst Zundel: Well, maybe I’m a bit more trustworthy. I trust that the Minister of Finance.

Caller 1: All I have of course is your report of what you read in the New York Times.

Ernst Zundel: The Minister of Finance of Germany had faced 482 Parliamentarians in Germany. Plus the whole press corp.

Caller 1: Yeah, yeah.

Ernst Zundel: Plus the Canadian [words unclear], plus the Canadian Jewish Eagle, plus the International Scientist Organisation and stated that we have, …

Caller 1: Let me ask you something else. Let me ask you something else.

Ernst Zundel: Go right ahead.

Caller 1: You mentioned the Canadian Jewish Eagle, eh, This is a Yiddish newspaper.

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Caller 1: I have many, many Christian friends here in Canada. As a matter of fact my adult years were all spent amongst non-jews. I’m a very jewish person. I would have to speak to 1,000 of them to find out anyone who has ever heard of the Canadian Jewish Eagle. How come you’re so interested? How do you know about it?

Ernst Zundel: Is it a crime to be?

Caller 1: No, no!

I’m just curious as to how you come to know about it. Do you read Yiddish?

Ernst Zundel: Do I read Yiddish?

Caller 1: Yes.

Ernst Zundel: That’s my business. I just might, you know.

Caller 1: You just might.

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

Caller 1: Just like [word unclear] and he reads Yiddish too.

Ernst Zundel: Let me tell you something. If maybe that indicates something to you that my grandfather’s name was Isidor Meyer.

Caller 1: Isidor Meyer?

Ernst Zundel: Yeah. How do you like that for [word unclear] You think about that for a while.

Caller 1: Listen, listen. If you know any German history, you would know that German history is filled with a man like, … Do you know any German history? Ever hear of a man named Peppercorn?

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I know a man.

Caller 1: He went by the name named Peppercorn, lived about 400 years ago.

Ernst Zundel: That’s right.

Caller 1: And he was one of the worst anti-semites, a convert, that ever lived. I don’t care what your grandfather was called. You see, that’s not evidence of any kind.

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say whether I read Yiddish or not.

Caller 1: I’m just curious about your interest in it, you see. What is your interest?

Ernst Zundel: My interest is.

Caller 1: Yeah.

Ernst Zundel: I’m interested in many things. You want to have a couple of statistics?

Caller 1: No, no, just why are you. Why are you so interested in the jewish question and Israel?

Ernst Zundel: Because it is very vitally involved with Germany and with the history that we are being taught.

Caller 1: Can I read something to you in a moment, Mr. Bell?

Ernst Zundel: Mr. Bell.

Radio Host: Yeah, I’m listening.

Caller 1: You got a moment there? Can I read something? I’ll give you the name of the guy who wrote it just in the paper as well, but just let me read it, if we’re concerned with these raids back and forth and the German interest in it.

Radio Host: Ah ha.

Caller 1: One of the more efficient leaders. This is a publication date of January 3rd.

Ernst Zundel: What year?

Caller 1:1969.

One of the more efficient leaders of the Al Fatah terrorist organisation is a tall, slender man who calls himself Al Hatch, “Pilgrim” in English. Al Hatch heads a group of specialists trained to assemble bombs which in turn are smuggled into crowded civilian areas of Old Jerusalem. In all likelihood, the recent terrorist attack which cut scores of lives in all Jerusalem, most of them women and children, are the work of this man.

Al Hatch is a master of disguise. He crosses the border sometimes in Arab guard, but more often dressed like a European. He also sports a forged Swiss passport. In his European clothes, he does not look one bit like an Arab, and for this reason, he was able to cross practically at will until his identity became known. There’s a good reason why Al Hatch is able to pass as a European. He is none other than Richard Winterhalter, formerly of the SS Death head squad. Winterhalter, wanted by West Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia for war crimes, operated both in Terezin, Theresienstadt and Auschwitz. Winterhalter was the key man who arranged for the death trains bringing elderly people from Terezin to the Birkenau extermination factories. He has also trained the special command of Auschwitz prisoners temporarily reprieved from the gruesome task of bringing bodies of murder victims from gas chambers to the crematoria.

Winterhalter escaped from a British prisoner of war camp during the summer of 1945 and crossed him to Italy. From there he made his way to Egypt, where he converted to Islam. During 1949, he made his pilgrimage to Mecca, calling himself Al Hatch. The newly created Mohammedan, promptly joined the battle against Israel and served under the notorious Mufti of Jerusalem. So, on about the deliberation plan.

Ernst Zundel: Now, who writes? What paper is it?

Caller 1: This is written by Peter Lust.

Ernst Zundel: Oh, well, Mr. Peter Lust. Wonderful.

Caller 1: Yeah. Now, this information, since he names this name, it suggests to me several things. In the first place, I want to ask a general question. I don’t dislike the Germans. I’ve been to Germany several times. I’ve met many young German people, in fact, in Israel. But I don’t understand. This is what I just can’t get through my mind about the German engineers who worked in Egypt, the German engineers who are working in Syria.

The Germans are helping these people now to fight the jews. Why can’t they just leave them alone? You know, they tried to get rid of them 30 years ago, 20 years ago. Why can’t they just leave them alone? Why just have to go on and on trying to get rid of what Hitler left over. Can you explain that to me as a German?

[25:08]

Ernst Zundel: I don’t know.

Caller 1: Have you ever thought about it?

Ernst Zundel: I don’t. Look, I came to Canada when I was 19 years old.

Caller 1: Don’t give us that bit again. You know. How old are you now? You’re 30?

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, I’m 30.

Caller 1: So you read newspapers?

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I do.

Caller 1: So you read about your fellow Germans who work for the Egyptians and the Syrians? What do you think about it?

Ernst Zundel: What do I think about it?

Caller 1: Yes.

Ernst Zundel: They’re engineers. They were forbidden by the allied, …

Caller 1: What do you think about it? No, don’t tell us about what they were forbidden. What do you think about it as a fellow German?

Ernst Zundel: You don’t have to be so aggressive. Anybody that shouts and screams indicates usually that he is [word unclear]

Caller 1: Not necessarily. If he gets stupid replies, he has to shout.

Ernst Zundel: I haven’t even made my replies, because you are so aggressive. So.

Caller 1: Well, what do you think about it?

Ernst Zundel: What do I think about it?

Caller 1: Yes.

Ernst Zundel: These people like for instance, Messerschmitt that build a plane for the Egyptians and the engineers like. Well, I think Metzgar is one of his name that builds El Kahir that never brought fire during the Arab-Israeli war, which is a rocket with a 600 mile range, along the V2 line. These men, by the treaties of or by the Nuremberg Judgment, are forbidden to build this kind of stuff in Germany. So they were looking for new fields.

Caller 1: Yeah, but why did you mean. Was that the only place. You know? There are many Germans who go to Israel to work. I’ve met them there. I’ve met them working in the kibbutzene, if they wanted. If they wanted to go someplace to work.

Ernst Zundel: If you are Messerschmitt that had designed jet planes and rockets, you’re hardly inclined to continue your career in an Israeli kibbutz.

Caller 1: I suppose. I thought he could have gone to Brazil where Dr. Mengele is, you know.

Ernst Zundel: Yeah. What is Dr Mengele, is he a rocket engineer?

Caller 1: No. Well, I could have gone to Brazil needs. It’s a funny thing, but they always end up. They always seem to end up on the side facing the jews! What do they want from us?

Ernst Zundel: Wernher von Braun is he facing the jews, sir?

Caller 1: You got one example there. And you had dozens working in Syria and Egypt.

Ernst Zundel: Anybody that followed Apollo lately knows precisely how many German rocket scientists are in America.

Caller 1: I’m not so excited about Wernher von Braun either I’m interested in knowing from him he’s going to testify in a trial. You know, I’m interested in knowing from him just as I’m interested in knowing from other just plain soldiers when they were in Germany for that long period. And since they are not stupid people. He knew exactly what he was doing when he was designing the V2s. You know, his conscience is not that kind that gives me admiration. I would just assume, just assume if he had been told that if he didn’t design the vehicles, they would shoot him, that he had let himself be shot. You know, he’s not one of my great heroes.

Ernst Zundel: How many of you Russian scientists that created the what they call the Stalin Organ rocket?

Caller 1: I haven’t the slightest idea about that.

Ernst Zundel: All right, how many of the, …

Caller 1: Let me ask you one last question.

Ernst Zundel: How many of the Canadians. Hang on for a moment. Do this one by one. Okay.

Caller 1: Yeah.

Ernst Zundel: You thought you could bring in a couple of good points and let me answer them.

Caller 1: Yeah.

Ernst Zundel: Those people that designed Liberator bombers.

Caller 1: I haven’t the slightest idea.

Ernst Zundel: Jews themselves.

Caller 1: Liberator bombers?

Ernst Zundel: That turned Dresden into a fiery inferno.

Caller 1: Are you? You’re not serious, are you?

Ernst Zundel: I’m dead serious.

Caller 1: The more you talk. You know, you’d be smart if you hung up right now. The more you talk you give yourself away.

Ernst Zundel: Why are you afraid you’re losing the argument?

Caller 1: No, what’s the point of bringing Dresden into this?

Ernst Zundel: Because in Dresden the estimates are apart from Mr. Peter Lust that was invited by Walter Ulbricht at his expense to go behind the Iron Curtain. I think Mr. Irving in England wrote a book about it.

Caller 1: Yes, I read the book. I read the book.

Ernst Zundel: All right. He says 300,000 people got killed in one single bombing raid.

Caller 1: Yeah, well, if the Germans had been smart in 1933 and they sat on Hitler, they wouldn’t have killed in 1944.

Ernst Zundel: We are not talking about who is smart. We are talking about what crimes.

Caller 1: Well, the Germans themselves were responsible for it. That was no crime. I’m against it. I’m against killing anyone. I wouldn’t have killed that one. You know, I’m against killing everyone. But once you start on that road, once you start on that road, that’s the way you end up.

[29:23]

Ernst Zundel: Yes, but anyway, doesn’t that answer my original argument again?

Caller 1: No, it has nothing to do with it because the people, …

Ernst Zundel: Wernher von Braun should have shot himself?

Caller 1: Yes, absolutely! Before even trying to [word unclear].

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. Air Vice Marshall Harris that was in charge in England of the bombing of Dresden. There over 300,000 people, mainly refugees and women in an undefended city. It was called an “open city” via the Red Cross from Geneva. There was not one fighter plane that protected it. No [words unclear].

Caller 1: I can just imagine Hitler doing that. Well, my dear chap, I mean this is the information you get from what side?

Ernst Zundel: These 300,000 people got killed. I don’t see Air Vice Marshall Harris shooting himself.

Caller 1: That’s hardly a comparison, you know. Air Marshall Harris was fighting against an aggressor. It was Hitler that started the war!

Ernst Zundel: Well, you know, finding out [word unclear] is very interesting because, …

Caller 1: I see. As I told you’d better hang up. The longer you talk, the more you give yourself away.

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. We’ll come back to it because you, …

Caller 1: You certainly sound like a six year old.

Ernst Zundel: Fine. I’m taking history at Sir George Williams University, sir. And you know what they are teaching us there? That at the very same time, I think it’s Sep 9, 1939, that Hitler walked into one side of Poland, Stalin walking to the other side of Poland. He occupied half of Poland and Hitler occupied the other side of Poland.

Caller 1: Two birds of a feather.

Ernst Zundel: Pardon?

Caller 1: So how does that make Hitler less an aggressor?

Ernst Zundel: If you are fighting the aggressor. Your point was that Air Vice Marshall Harris was fighting an aggressor?

Caller 1: That’s right. Hitler walked into Czechoslovakia, …

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. Why was Air Vice Marshal Harris not also bombing Moscow?

Caller 1: They weren’t fighting with Moscow? Moscow wasn’t the enemy.

Ernst Zundel: Moscow was an aggressive, just as much as Hitler was!

Caller 1: Yeah, but Moscow hadn’t attacked England. Moscow wasn’t firing V2s at England. Besides that Hitler had, …

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear] aren’t you?

Caller 1: No, no. Yeah, you give yourself away.

Let me ask you one last thing. Let’s get back to 1968. Let’s get back to 1969.

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

Caller 1: We follow your advice. The Israeli government from the $14 billion plus the $7 billion it’s got for the individuals.

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say that.

Caller 1: Incidentally, is that the word that the Germans are using reparations that they paid to Israel?

Ernst Zundel: No.

Caller 1: What word do they use?

Ernst Zundel: In German they call it [word unclear] That means “to make good again”.

Caller 1: I see, Right. It’s not reparations since Israel wasn’t at war with Germany, right?

Ernst Zundel: And then some Germans wonder if Israel didn’t exist as a state, why Germany should pay for it as it didn’t exist?

Caller 1: Yeah, that’s a good question. Do you wonder that too?

Ernst Zundel: No, but I’m just pointing out to you.

Caller 1: Let me ask you guys. Let’s carry on then here, eh? You say you’re suggesting to solve the problem in the Middle East. East that Israel with its $14 billion and its $7 billion.

Ernst Zundel: I didn’t say 14 billion and 7 billion. You got the figures wrong. You should listen more closely, let hear what you want to hear.

Caller 1: Didn’t you say that the reparations, so-called, to Israel was $14 billion and the money paid to individuals was $7 billion? Isn’t that what you said?

Ernst Zundel: No, I didn’t.

Caller 1: What did you say?

Ernst Zundel: I said that under the treaty with the state of Israel directly, Germany made payments to the state of Israel to the tune of $3, 450,000,000. And this, …

Caller 1: What’s the 14 billion dollar figure?

Ernst Zundel: Pardon?

Caller 1: What’s the 14,000,000,000 dollar figure?

Ernst Zundel: I said up to 1969 all the reparations by policy paid to individuals, to the state, people living outside Israel was $14 billion.

Caller 1: Including people living outside Israel?

Ernst Zundel: Yeah.

Caller 1: What’s that got to do with the Israeli government?

Ernst Zundel: Okay, I’ll try. I’ll do it slowly for you. Okay.

I said separate treaty. One is between Israel as a state, you know as a state government of Israel?

Caller 1: Yeah.

Ernst Zundel: Between the Bonn government and the Israeli government. Money involved in that?

Caller 1: Yes, that’s 3, 450,000, you say.

Ernst Zundel: And there were payments involved between Israeli and between jewish individuals and carrying Israeli passport. But they don’t have to live in Israel, because Germany allows a dual citizenship in the case of a jew. Do you understand?

Caller 1: So you’re not including the figure of German ex-German refugees who had never gone to Israel? You’re not adding in that figure? You know, not all German refugees went to Israel.

Ernst Zundel: I know that.

Caller 1: So you’re talking with German refugees who either went to Israel and left or else they got the Israeli passport and here’s the passport. Okay, well this is a small thing. The first thing, let me repeat that you better, you’d better go to the Israeli consulate and find out what their side of the story is. Now in addition to that, let’s take your figure for what it. Let’s take your figure for what it may be. I accept your figure!

Ernst Zundel: Israel and James Weissman and David Ben Gurion and Levy Ashbolt, they have never quarrelled with these figures. Because these figures are open for everyone to see, including Mr [word unclear]

Caller 1: I accept them all. I’m not quarrelling with them either. I accept them in total, including your translation into German Reichmarks, so it sounds like 50 billion. But I’m not quarrelling with that. You’re suggesting, you’re suggesting, …

[35:03]

Ernst Zundel: Just a minute. I’m afraid I have to translate it into German marks because Germany doesn’t deal in [word unclear] or in [word unclear].

Caller 1: Yeah, but what purpose was there for you to mention German marks at all? All Canadians can understand dollars.

Ernst Zundel: It’s the currency to start with, ..

Caller 1: Yeah, I know, but you you said whatever the figure was 50 billion Marks. That sounds like $50 billion to someone not listening carefully.

Ernst Zundel: One second after I gave it in dollars. So look, don’t, …

Caller 1: Yeah, okay.

Ernst Zundel: You’re terribly suspicious, I must say.

Caller 1: So we’ve got whatever billions of figures you got there. And you’re suggesting that they should take some of this money and pay to whatever refugees are within their reach. Well, how much to each one.

Ernst Zundel: Nope. The last time I suggested. And this is my suggestion as an individual, it’s not a German government policy. They would be horrified if they heard me discuss this problem anyways because they’re such cowards when it comes to this.

Caller 1: What have you got to do with them? You said you’re a Canadian. What do they care what you say? What do they care what you say?

Ernst Zundel: I’m just declaring it to you.

Caller 1: Yeah, okay. So what’s your figure? 500 bucks a piece?

Ernst Zundel: No, I said commensurate with what they lost. And this is very easy.

Caller 1: But they didn’t lose anything, you see. They weren’t chased away. They left of their own accord, as you said yourself, because the legislation, the agreement, or rather the resolution that was passed at the United Nations at that time in 1947, which divided Palestine, remember not including Jordan, just Palestine, west of the Jordan, into two states, gave to the Israelis only that part of Palestine which was generally occupied by jews on land which they had bought from the effendis, and for which, incidentally, they also paid the peasants who didn’t own it at all!

In other words, these refugees didn’t leave from any land which at that time belonged to the jews. They left of their own accord, as you have yourself admitted on broadcast. On broadcast from their Arab neighbours. Okay, now, so what should, what should they be compensated for?

Ernst Zundel: Let me continue. First of all, many people that left were not peasants. Many of them were, …

Caller 1: I didn’t say that they were peasants. Those that left from [word unclear] weren’t peasants.

Ernst Zundel: You know, in other words.

Caller 1: But they weren’t chased away.

Ernst Zundel: Look, this wasn’t my argument at all! You’re always trying to put words in my mouth. I didn’t say that you don’t have to be hostile.

Caller 1: So why should they have to be recompensed for what I said?

Ernst Zundel: Oh, hold on. Look, tonight when I came on again, if Israel is in need of allies, which I think she is, and Israel says she is, then those 2 million Arabs would be very good allies.

Caller 1: What makes you think that?

Ernst Zundel: What makes me think that?

Caller 1: Yes.

Ernst Zundel: Because these people are, I’m sure, very tired of living in tents. They would be very good friends of Israel if they thought that the Israelis were giving them a hefty deal than the Arabs.

Caller 1: And it’s your speculation that if they were paid by the Israelis, they would suddenly become friends of the Israelis. Is that your speculation?

Ernst Zundel: Hold on, those Arabs that are living in Israel since 1948, you yourself and every other jewish caller that called said they are treated like an Israeli, they are prospering, they have all the military service and everything else.

Caller 1: Okay.

Ernst Zundel: Are they hostile to Israel?

Caller 1: Generally speaking, no.

Ernst Zundel: Okay. You see what I mean?

Caller 1: No, but it’s hardly the same thing, you know.

Ernst Zundel: It’s the same thing. Right now hundreds of thousands of Arab refugees are living in territory administered by Israel.

So what I was suggesting was extend the same policies that you, …

Caller 1: That’s not the same. That’s not the same policy, at all! You know, if you were to pay them whatever figure you think would be adequate, would they be then brought back to Israel or would they be left where they are? Where would they go? With their little payment, with their little check? Where would they go?

Ernst Zundel: Hold on for a minute. It would be in the interest of Israel, I suppose that they would settle them somewhere, which I think Israel is trying to do.

Caller 1: In Israel? In Israel? In Israel?

Ernst Zundel: No, in the new territory.

Caller 1: What new territory? The Israelis aren’t keeping those territories.

Ernst Zundel: According to the Montreal which I have in front of me, it says that these territories are called the “new territories”.

Caller 1: These territories are called the new territories?

Ernst Zundel: Right.

Caller 1: What date? What story is that?

[News Break]

Radio Host: You had a question you wanted to ask? Go ahead.

Caller 1: The other end is not just taking up your time. But he considered what he suggested, a practical solution to the problem. Now does he consider. We didn’t finish before we went to the news. Is he suggesting, if I may be wrong, suggesting that these people would, the refugees would come into Israel to get paid.

In other words, the one and a half million who are now outside would have to return to Israel. They would get to pay whatever. He didn’t specify what amount of, let’s say, several hundred dollars. And they would remain in Israel, Is that the suggestion?

[40:12]

Ernst Zundel: I can’t decide where they wanted to go, where Israel wanted them to. It’s entirely up to them. But my main point in bringing up the payment angle is that I know that those people live on handouts from the United Nations and they are always in every story that we hear and read it, that they were dispossessed by the Israelis.

Caller 1: Yeah, but this. Yeah, I know, but, …

Ernst Zundel: You see what I mean, it would be a good point as far, not as a publicity stunt, I wouldn’t want to say it that way. But it would be a great deal in the favour of Israel as far as the world situation is concern. And specifically for those small Arab people, whether they be peasants or herdsmen or former storekeepers. To them, I’m sure it would show the goodwill of Israel and it would make life out of every statement that emanates from Beirut or from Cairo as [word unclear].

Caller 1: It doesn’t require this to show up the statements that emanate those countries as lies tell people to those people.

Ernst Zundel: People with a full stomach and a square meal and more comfortable mud hut rather than a, …

Caller 1: But don’t you don’t, in the first place, if you base your suggestion on the moral question that they were dispossessed by the Israelis, therefore the Israelis would look better in the eyes of the world by recompensing them in one way or another. This is from a false start because they were not dispossessed by the Israelis.

This point has been made time and time again! And it doesn’t matter how often uninformed people say that they were dispossessed by the Israelis, it still doesn’t make it true, because you can’t turn back history and say because it’s repeated, therefore it becomes true. The only reason there should be any compensation, I mean, if the Israelis had it and if other governments had it, they should give it to their human being.

But from a practical point of view, I don’t see, looking at the way the Arab governments around there operate, I don’t think it would make any difference whatsoever to forming, to getting peace with the Arab countries. This is what the Israelis are after. They want to sit down with Egypt and with Jordan and with Syria, if Syria can stay on one seat for a long enough time and sign a peace treaty after 20 years.

Now, how payments to the refugees who would either be kept after that they can’t be admitted to Israel because Israel hasn’t got room for them. What they would do with the money, that they would go to Amman or they would go to Cairo. Those countries could have taken them before and they didn’t. They kept them there for a special purpose. And for you to think that because they will get several, on the contrary, it’s very likely that what would happen if they got the money, it’s such an impractical suggestion. How would the money get to them outside? Would they be in checks or in cash? In Jordanian money and Egyptian money? You know, if they got it, they would probably end up in their mind having the money taken from them by those governments. What makes you think that if they were to receive that money, it would make the slightest difference in the attitude of the Arab governments, the Arab governments to Israel?

Ernst Zundel: First of all, I have to. Maybe I am naive, I doubt it. But the point is, if Israel wants to have peace, it is obvious that the Arab government for the last, 20 years, the government, the cliques in power, whether they be the Bath party, whether they be the colonels of Nasser or whatever they are, those in power are not speaking for the small peasants, but they are using those peasants as a weapon and as a tool.

Caller 1: Let me ask you something. Have you been to the Middle East?

Ernst Zundel: No, I haven’t.

Caller 1: Have you never been to Turkey?

Ernst Zundel: No, I haven’t.

Caller 1: Or Egypt? None of those countries?

Ernst Zundel: Have you been to the moon?

Caller 1: Yeah. No, no, I’ve been to those countries and it doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference what the peasants think. It’s the colonels that are in Cairo that matter at this point. I don’t see what the peasants, how the peasants [words unclear] at all!

They’re medieval countries, you know.

Ernst Zundel: I don’t see that the [word unclear] himself has stopped across the border, planted a mine in the market in Jerusalem and blown up 10 Israelis.

Caller 1: He might as well have. What difference does it make? He tolerated the people who did it.

Caller 2: Not partial at all! This is the World Almanac of the 1966 Yearbook of Britannica. Now, there’s no bias in there or any prejudice. I will quote you if I may.

Ernst Zundel: Right. Well, I got my figures from an almanac too.

Caller 1: Oh, okay. The overall picture, this is page 430. Under the topic of Israel. The overall picture was one of continuing prosperity and expansion, tempered by a growing balance of payments problems which was expected to become more serious because of the ending of the German reparations payments. This I assume, is in 65, which had ended.

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear]

Caller 2: Just a minute.

Ernst Zundel: World Almanac reparations payment too.

Caller 2: These had accounted for about $70 million annually. Now, if you carry that for 20 years, that would be a total of 1, 400,000,000. Which does not come anywhere close to your figures.

So how do you account for that? This is to the state of Israel, money reparation.

[45:22]

Ernst Zundel: Well, how do I count for that?

Caller 2: You said 7 billion.

Ernst Zundel: I thought I went to the horse’s mouth.

Caller 2: I beg your pardon.

Ernst Zundel: I thought I went to the horse’s mouth.

Caller 2: Yeah, but you went to the wrong horse.

Caller 1: Your zoology is all wrong.

Ernst Zundel: It’s the person that pays the Bill usually less in funds than the person that, …

Caller 1: He usually tries to build up what he paid, though.

Radio Host: Well, in terms of Britannica, though, I would assume that to arrive at any figure they would go to more than both sides. Again you have to, …

Caller 1: Definitely! And through the fact that it involves the changing of funds into international currency of some kind.

Radio Host: Right. Well, when we use the term dollar, it is accepted that it is the American dollar.

Caller 1: Yes, that’s right. That’s the international currency.

Ernst Zundel: Hold on for a moment. I’m mulling this thing over here.

Caller 1: Yeah, it’s probably 7 billion in Reichmarks is that would make it a billion 400,000!

Radio Host: Yes, it wouldn’t it?

Caller 1: Yeah, 7 billion Reichmarks would make it a billion 400,000.

Ernst Zundel: The ratio is not.

Radio Host: No, the ratio is 3 to 1, isn’t it?

Caller 1:5 to 1.

Ernst Zundel: No, no.

Caller 1:4 to 1. Something around there.

Ernst Zundel: It’s now 32 cents per mark.

Caller 1: That’s now. So that’s now. The dollar has fallen. The Mark is up, is very strong.

Radio Host: Right. So there are three marks in the dollar, roughly.

Ernst Zundel: No more. There’s, …

Radio Host: Well, like in terms of 31 billion marks, you got your figure. $10 billion.

Ernst Zundel: Roughly. Yeah.

Radio Host: I mean, we’re being rough, but you know.

Caller 1: So you speak German? Maybe they told him in Germany he doesn’t understand!

Ernst Zundel: Very funny, very funny!

Radio Host: Well, anybody can look it up if they have Britannica.

Caller 1: Yeah, of course, you shouldn’t argue with [word unclear].

Radio Host: Anyway, this is curious. I’m looking up to find, you know, where I. Again, you see, there are cross indexes here and I have the United Nations roster to find out, you know, where to find West Germany. I can’t find them on the roster here.

Caller 1: Look for it on the Republic of West Germany.

Ernst Zundel: No no, West Germany is not a member of the United Nations.

Radio Host: I was coming to that conclusion and I was afraid to say so, but it appears it is not a member of the United Nations.

Caller 1: I wonder why?

Ernst Zundel: Germany wasn’t at the time considered to be fit to be part of member nation.

Radio Host: Well, well, well, there are 124 members. Neither Germany is here.

Ernst Zundel: No, neither will you find, I think South Korea and North Korea. Neither South Vietnam and North Vietnam.

Radio Host: That’s right. They’re not here.

Ernst Zundel: That’s right.

Caller 1: Let me go on. Can I go on for something that has a similar, two similar suggestions that are made that relate somehow to your suggestion, it’s a speculation as to whether what you do will have the desired effect. You know, Israel can pay out this two or $3 billion or whatever it happens to be, and it should go down the drain, down the Suez Canal and hear no more about it. And they should be just as violent.

So it would be a pretty dangerous thing for Israel to carry that out on your say so.

Let me ask something else now. It is suggested that Israel, in the case of this attack on Beirut, that as a matter of fact, the message came the Pope after he had been criticised for his first statement, he made another statement which wasn’t a very satisfactory either one. It sounded like he was saying:

“Well, you’re both wrong, so both stop fighting.”

It suggested that if the Israelis wouldn’t retaliate, which is what they’re being charged with, that the Salahi, that the Al Fatah and the terrorists would stop crossing the border.

Now, anyone who thinks that if the Israelis would not respond, then the people on the Jordanian side, the terrorists would stop, you know, must be out of his mind! What else can the Israelis do if they’re being shot at? They shoot back. You know, they were to stop in order to conform to what the Pope suggests and other very kind people are suggesting that they should stop escalating it. They’ll be run over!

Ernst Zundel: The jews have a law, a eye for a eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Caller 1: Oh, come on now!

The next thing you’re going to tell me, the next thing you’re going to tell me is that I belong to a tribe. You know, you sound like something out of the Middle Ages!

Ernst Zundel: Well, Life magazine has [word unclear] that.

Caller 1: I don’t care what Life magazine does! You know, what’s this “eye for an eye” business? That went out of fashion 2500 years ago!

Radio Host: Well, it’s back in vogue now because it’s interpreted by many as referring to transplants! [chuckling]

Caller 1: Israel is clear that the reason for their attack on the Beirut airport, and they made specific, they made very good, very good care that no one should be hurt, was to teach the Arab countries around there that the Israeli Airlines was not something that could be just thrown away. They had to show them it wasn’t an eye for an eye. It wasn’t revenge of any kind. It was to teach them that if they carried on the path that they were following that they would suffer for it! Which would make them stop. And this has been the reason for all the Israeli so-called retaliation. What they get is the time of peace. And usually it has happened. There has been hardly any fighting around this way because the Israelis hit back hard!

[50:39]

Ernst Zundel: Every news commentator that I have listened to from the United States, from Europe and the GDC, they all say that these terrorist organisations have succeeded in their primary aim and that is to make Israel overreact. Would you say Israel overreacted?

Caller 1: No, I wouldn’t. I don’t see how she could overreact. I don’t see how she could overreact by destroying 13 aeroplanes in exchange for human life. That’s not an overreaction.

Ernst Zundel: [words unclear]

Radio Host: How’s that?

Ernst Zundel: Everybody else seems to think so. Including [word unclear].

Caller 1: Now, tell me something. What difference does it make in a question of right and wrong what everybody else thinks?

Ernst Zundel: Well, first again there is your right and there is they are wrong and there is you’re wrong and they are right.

Radio Host: Okay, just before somebody calls up and correct us on it, let me correct it.

As far as the Deutsche marks is concerned, there are 3.988 per US dollar. Okay gentlemen. The last gentleman who is on the line. Are you satisfied with the point you made?

Caller 2: Yeah. I have one more point to make.

Radio Host: What is it, sir?

Caller 2: Have you ever heard of the flying carpet notion whereby about a million jews would [word unclear] all the Arab countries including Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt and Syria, were all thrown into Israel without a penny in their pockets and it was the Israeli government who undertook them, closed them, fed them and gave them jobs. They came into Israel without a penny in their pocket.

Radio Host: Right. Well, in terms of restitution or reparation, it has been suggested by our caller that these people be included.

Caller 2: Yes, but why they forgotten? When everybody talks about the Palestinian refugees, what about these people?

Radio Host: Well, as was suggested when I when mention it that it had not been mentioned before. It’s a suggestion from a staff member who was in the booth with me at the time.

Caller 1: Would the restitution come from the Arab government? They should be the ones responsible because that’s where they came from.

Caller 2: Exactly!

Caller 1: And can you imagine them doing it?

Ernst Zundel: Well, look, why don’t give them the benefit of the doubt.

Caller 1: Give whom the benefit of the doubt?

Ernst Zundel: The Arab government, put you on the spot.

Caller 1: Are you a journalist? Did you say you’re a journalist?

Ernst Zundel: Yes, I’m a journalist.

Caller 1: Why are you dreaming? Why are you having these dreams?

Ernst Zundel: You know something? I have to make a very basic point here.

Caller 1: Yes.

Ernst Zundel: You people. And this is so evidently so when you listen to these open lines. You are extremely sensitive! And you are always having such a perfect taste.

Caller 1: It has nothing to do with this! It has nothing to do with it!

Ernst Zundel: I’m a fan of Sherlock Holmes and of Perry Mason and you know about Perry Mason? Everybody that watches television, you know what Perry Mason does? He usually investigates the guy with the perfect alibi first.

Caller 1: Do you know something else? I’ve listened to you two evenings. I haven’t heard you say a good thing about the Israelis.

Ernst Zundel: I haven’t?

Caller 1: No.

Ernst Zundel: Well, my suggestion was that they should possibly pay restitution.

Caller 1: What kind of a good thing is this? This is the sort of a dream that has no relation to reality.

Caller 2: Can I bring in another point just for a second? It says here in the same yearbook, just a little bit smaller paragraph below, it says:

“A new series of terrorist attacks in border areas originating mainly in Jordan and Syria and later also in Lebanon, began during the year.”

Now, this is back in 65.

Caller 1: Of course, this is true. I was in Israel last spring. I was shooting a film there. And part of my filming was along the Lebanese border. There was an old synagogue about three miles from the border. Just about three hours after I had passed there and done my work, a mine was blown up. Now, this was way over, way over near the Western, near the Mediterranean Sea, just south of the Lebanese border.

Now, for any Jordanian or Syrian to have been able to go all the way from there east of the Jordan to plant that mine would have been impossible. This was a Lebanese mine. And there have been incidents from Lebanon time after time after time! The Israeli intelligence is excellent! As a matter of fact the Jordanians have just today hunt two spies, or they call them spies who are spying for Israel, if you can imagine that.

So the Israeli intelligence is pretty good. When they say that they know what’s going on inside Lebanon, I’m pretty sure that they know.

[54:56]

Ernst Zundel: Yeah, I agree with you.

Caller 1: Okay?

Ernst Zundel: That’s a good thing to say about Israel?

Caller 1: Well, you’re absolutely impossible! Here you have a country. You know, I feel, when I read my, I don’t understand it when I read my Bible, I feel embarrassed about something that the Israelites did 2,000 years ago. I say:

“Why should my people have behaved like that?”

You know, I’m not really guilty, but I feel sorry that they should have. That it shouldn’t be one of our traits. Here you have a people in the Middle East whose only existence., … Now, I’m not a Zionist, that’s why I’m saying this. Whose existence, Israel is due solely at this point in history. Who knows when they might have created, if at all! At this point in history, it’s due solely to the behaviour of your people! You see, and you have the gall, the chutzpah to come along on a public show and to make criticism of them, why they’re there they shouldn’t have been there in the first place or something else.

Ernst Zundel: Did I say that?

Caller 1: Well, you certainly suppose that from the way you talk.

Radio Host: Well, again, you see, the caller accused you of hearing what you want to hear before, and this is evidence of it. He never did say that.

Ernst Zundel: I would be perfectly happy to give you the Arab case. What they say:

“Why you shouldn’t be there, if you want to.”

Radio Host: Well, I don’t know if any of you are listening on my Saturday morning program. Late in the program, we did get someone who outlined it on Viewpoint Tonight. If any of you are watching, it was outlined again. There are three sides to this story. There’s the Israeli side, the Arab side, and the truth!

Caller 1: Well, of course, that doesn’t necessarily follow. It’s possible that one of the two sides is true.

Radio Host: Unfortunately, no. This is, it’s just like in the case of a divorce or anything else. There’s his side, there’s her side, and then there’s the truth!

Caller 1: That’s very clever. But in an actual situation where you have two antagonists, it’s very possible that one of the side is more right than the other.

Radio Host: According to whom, though? You see, according to the Israelis, they’re right. The Arabs are wrong. According to the Arabs, they’re right. The Israelis are wrong.

Now, I’m not saying to be objective. I do not believe anyone can be objective. And I don’t care who says that you can be objective in this case. All I say is that you should be fair!

This is why I am accused by Arabs of being anti-Arab and I’m accused by Israelis of being anti-Israeli.

Caller 1: That’s quite unfair to you because you have to be fair as a moderator and present both sides of the coin. I can understand the Arab point of view, although I think it’s wrong.

Radio Host: Yeah. But on this issue, I’m the only host of a programme on this station to my knowledge that is getting threats against my life and so on over this issue.

Caller 2: It won’t come from me. I think you’re pretty good.

Caller 1: What I was going to say is this. If you take the Israeli and the Arab position, the Israelis have nowhere else to go. There’s some suggestion made that on the part of so-called anti-zionist and some Arab books I’ve read and articles that the European jews. Let me state now several things here, that the European jews who are now in Israel who came from Eastern Europe should go back since they’re not Mediterranean, but they’re probably descended from the Khazari who were a Turkish people in the Crimea 1300 years ago. That they’re really Europeans, blue eyed, blonde, so they shouldn’t be in Israel at all! You can well imagine this kind of a suggestion that Ben Gurion, who was born in Russia, that the Russians would let him back into Russia.

In other words, he’s going to stay there. Certainly the Israeli disciples who were born there are going to stay there.

And can you imagine the Yemenites who were born in [word unclear] to go back there? And the Egyptians to go back to Egypt? So it’s not very likely to happen.

Ernst Zundel: May I just come in here?

Caller 1: Let me just finish that. So the Israelis, when they say they are going to stay, they’re going to stay.

That’s one side of the coin. You can believe that’s their point of view and I can see their point of view and I don’t see how anyone else can. I mean, what’s wrong with that point of view?

But then you get the Arab side of it which says they’re going to drive them into the sea, get rid of them! Can that be correct as well? How can it?

Ernst Zundel: Well, can I come into the point here?

Caller 1: Yeah.

Ernst Zundel: According to The Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 4, Pages 1 to 5, it deals with what you just outlined, the Khazars.

Caller 1: The Khazaris, yeah.

Ernst Zundel: Right. And it says in there:

“That the Khazar Empire, it was founded by Asiatic Mongol people in the first year after the birth of Christ and existed till about the 14th century.”

As you said. But it had its peak in the seventh and eighth century. These people were heathen and they’re converted to Judaism.

Caller 1: That’s true. Okay, so what’s that got to do with the Israelis right now? And the Mediterranean in 1969.

Ernst Zundel: This is on which much of the Arab argument is based on. If you had heard the UN debate.

Caller 1: Yeah, but you see, you’ve got to start from where you are. You can’t start from where you were 500 years ago. The Israelis are now. What is going to happen to Ben Gurion, for example? Would he go back to Russia?

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Ernst Zundel: No, no. May I make a point here, a philosophic point, if I may?

Caller 1: Yeah. Okay.

Ernst Zundel: So the Arabs and [word unclear] that was speaking at the United Nations, he was horrified over CBC at the time of the Arab-Israeli war. He said precisely that.

In other words, he said:

“The Khazars were converted to Judaism or what was called then Talmudism.”

And like, …

Caller 1: Watch, watch it. What’s Talmudism? There’s no such thing. Just stick to what you know.

Ernst Zundel: Look, I’m quoting the Jewish Encyclopedia, volume 4 pages one to five, …

Caller 1: Talmudism? Okay.

Ernst Zundel: In the seventh century, Judaism. It wasn’t called Judaism. It was called Talmudism.

Caller 1: Oh, come on! I don’t know who wrote that, but this is all nonsense!

Radio Host: All right. Who wrote the Jewish Encyclopedia?

Ernst Zundel: I suppose a couple of anti-semites!

Radio Host: [chuckling]

Caller 1: So what? They disappeared. They disappeared in the 14th century. What’s that got to do with the German jews?

Ernst Zundel: They didn’t disappear. That’s precisely the point!

Caller 1: Of course they became Christians. They were absorbed into the Russian Empire.

Ernst Zundel: They didn’t become Christians.

Caller 1: Where are they?

Ernst Zundel: They were spread all over the Soviet Union, all over the Balkans. And this is why you have such a big amount of Eastern European jews. They are called the Khazars. And do you know, difference between the Sephardic and Ashkenazis?

Caller 1: The Khazars, …

Ernst Zundel: The total percent, the [word unclear] state. And the Jewish Encyclopedia has a map in the book. 80% of the world’s jewish population today are Khazars. In other words, they are converted!

Caller 1: What are you talking about?

Ernst Zundel: Precisely. That’s what the Arabs are saying.

Therefore. Just a minute now. Look, this is the argument. You have to look at their argument and you have to look at your argument and then we can arrive at something. That’s why the Arabs say that, …

Caller 1: Well, the Arabs don’t know what they’re talking about and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Because, … Let’s forget about it. Let’s forget about it!

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Thomas Sewell

Messiah or Caeser

Thu, Jul 25, 2024

[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activist, founder of NSN, Tom Sewell discusses the following:

• Personal relationships with God and different religious perspectives.
• Everyone has their own concept of God or something they worship.
• Explores the idea of personalizing God and its implications.
• Discussion of different forms of worship, from monotheism to paganism.
• Exploration of the concept of ancestral gods and their influence on national identity.
• The speaker importance of having a national god for a country’s survival.
• The relationship between parents and children as a reflection of divine relationships.
• The concept of mutation and its role in evolution and societal change.
• Exploration of the balance between good and evil in society and personal growth.
• The challenges of creating a safe and healthy environment for women and children.
• The importance of masculine energy in protecting society.
• Exploration of the concept of “blood and honor” as a motto and its significance.
• The differences between Roman and Germanic principles in society building.
• The importance of understanding and channeling one’s inner child.
• Exploration of the concept of the “coming man” or messiah figure in different cultures.
• Donald Trump’s role in current politics and his limitations.
• The importance of taking power before theorizing about solutions.
• Exploration of the concept of putting the jews on trial for their actions.
• The importance of using one’s voice to effect change.
• The challenges of building and maintaining a White nationalist organization.
• The concept of cultural weight and its importance in group dynamics.
• Discussion of the importance of having the right caliber of men in an organization.
• The challenges of managing different personality types within a group.
• Exploration of the concept of healthy ego and its role in leadership.
• The importance of understanding human psychology in political strategy.
• The need to address fundamental societal issues rather than just symptoms.
• Exploration of the concept of creating a healthy environment for women and children.
• The importance of understanding primal instincts in political strategy.
• The need to balance freedom and authority in society.
• Exploration of the concept of power and its relationship to freedom.
• Discussion of different approaches to explaining the worldview to “normies”.
• The importance of getting people to notice societal issues.
• Exploration of the concept of making arguments from a position of strength.
• Discussion of Hitler’s vegetarianism and its place in National Socialist ideology.
• The challenges of interpreting historical figures’ actions and words.
• Exploration of the concept of schisms in ideological movements.
• The importance of understanding and addressing female anxiety in society.
• The need to create a multi-generational organization.
• Exploration of the concept of using the voice to channel the “Aryan spirit”.
• The importance of consistency and faith in building a movement.

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Testing, one, two, three, testing. Just waiting for that to come through. Yeah, awesome! That’s coming through just fine. About a two second delay.

So I haven’t done a stream in some time. I’ve been very busy with a few things and the thoughts that have been going through my mind recently, especially on the long drives to and from work, I’ve been thinking about my personal relationship with Goddesse. So I hear religious people speak like this and I think I’m grasping at a similar idea but from a very different angle. And that is personalizing God. Not saying that you as an individual God, I’m not saying that. But this idea that we all have our own goddess and I’ve never actually met a true atheist in the sense that they don’t have some sort of deep conviction. And not that God is a conviction, that’s not what I’m saying. But that we all worship something. In many cases we worship lots of things.

And sometimes we worship a goddess universally or in its singular form, but often we can interpret or worship God in many forms.

And then obviously that blurs the lines between monotheism and Paganism because some forms of worshipping are more, not necessary, diluted, but they are compartmentalised into these archetypes or these downstream forces from a singular God.

And then of course you have people so far detached from that where they don’t even worship the God anymore. They don’t even worship the downstream force. That’s like a sub God that represents God or is a part of God. They don’t even worship that anymore. They more or less follow the routines religiously of the downstream faith. And that could be something like afl I’ve covered in the past. Or football, sports, ball, how people obsess over soccer, soccer, football, AFL, rugby, whatever you want to call all these ball sports. They’re all downstream of the temple of Mars or the temple of Tyr Thor. There’s always this upward, sharp, masculine force and there’s always ways of embodying that force. And that’s usually through a tribe that really believes and understands in its thumos or in its tier or in its Mars, a tribe that understands that part of itself, that that’s part of its collective unconsciousness, that it’s part of its existence, that it’s not a larp, that it is innate to its will. A tribe that has this strong energy, this strong focus will always have these outward displays of masculinity through sport. And that’s obviously extremely spiritual. That’s more or less one step removed from total God. If there’s a God of gods, that’s only one step removed from that.

So it’s quite a holy and spiritual thing. So when the non-Whites, Shitsa Aussies, they say:

“Oh all you care about is football and meat pies.”

Well, it’s like they’re summarizing our Paganism quite clearly, that the average Aussie puts this stuff. Most importantly, the average Aussie doesn’t just put these things, but puts material things, material things more important than God. They consider themselves atheists or agnostics. They don’t go to church, they don’t know who Yahweh is. The average Australian does not know who Yahweh is and therefore cannot recognise Yahweh as being their ancestral God or being their God, however you want to look at it.

So everyone has a highest form that they’re aspiring to be or that they’re interested in, and no one thing is God. That’s a false way of looking at this conversation.

The idea that we can continue on this path, though, where our nation doesn’t have a total God force without that, and without recognizing that and understanding that the nation dies. So every nation that wishes to exist as a nation has a God. A kind of funny way of putting it is if you’re in Croatia, then God is Croatian. If you’re in Korea, then God is Korean. You’ll notice that the Korean Presbyterians will make, like, Korean Jesus. They’ll have like, a Korean Yahweh, or a Korean Jesus.

So when you adopt universalistic or world religions, when you adopt these things, it’s the most innate thing for any tribe of people that wishes to survive. To do is to imprint its ancestral God on top of the universalistic God. You know, if you ask any religious people, they will always believe Muslims get really offended when you say Muhammad had, you know, he had light eyes and light hair. He potentially was blonde hair, blue eyed. He at least had a red beard. And Muslims get really angry at that because the average Arab doesn’t look like that. And they actually get not just deeply offended because, you’re talking about their prophet and they don’t like that, but also it hurts them at a deeper level because it means they’re actually not like their God and they’re not even moving in the right direction of their God unless they’re forming, like, a rape gang and being transported across the Mediterranean into Europe in order to steal more European DNA, like a giant rape gang, which is basically what Muhammadism is. It’s a giant rape gang. It’s the world’s biggest rape gang!

It’s why we have to defeat it, because they don’t have the, they’re not made of The Right Stuff. They don’t have the stuff we have in our DNA. They’re not carrying it’s been either, either. They never carried it. Well, they’re a hybridisation of those that carried it and lost it and those that never carried it.

And so we’re carrying something. And what we’re carrying is the seed of God. Whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, doesn’t matter. What we’re carrying is the seed of God. That’s a fact. That’s not debatable. That’s not a pagan statement, or a Christian statement. That’s a fact. So in recognizing that, then whose seed are you? Then you can work out what God you have. So it’s sort of a chicken and egg situation. You know, when I first met Tim Lutz, when I first met Tim Lutz, I asked him why he didn’t have more children.

And I think that was the first thing I asked him.

And then the second thing I asked him was, one of the second things that I asked him was about his belief in Goddesse. Does he believe in God? And he said to me that he doesn’t know. He doesn’t know anything about a God, but what he knows is that his children are God. And that in his way of looking at it, in his experience raising children as a young man, very young, Tim had his first group of children when he was very young.

So this is when he’s in his forming philosophical years. In your twenties, you’re really forming the philosophy of life between, I guess, 20 and, 208. There’s a, that’s like the last quarter of your mental maturity. After 28, most people don’t change much. You kind of set in your ways the path. You kind of decided between 20 and, 208.

That’s why it’s so important. This formative years, obviously, these years. This is sort of Steiner school stuff.

But anyway, I’ll get back on topic. So to be raising, most of us aren’t raising children in our twenties. Most of us don’t have children until like older than 28. But Tim’s one of the only guys I know that’s, that went through that whole period raising kids and his relationship with his kids.

The first thing he thought about when he thought about godliness or God was his children. And that’s really interesting because I had never said that I never repeated that to Beckley.

And the other day, she was saying to me how sometimes she looks at Luna, like, not to sound ridiculous, but like, it’s a God. And I don’t want people taking this out of context. Like this is some sort of wacky Paganism where we’re, like, saying that. Saying that the whole universe’s creator is like in the soul of a single child. Obviously, that’s, like a crucial metaphor. A lot of religions have this and play on this and there’s a lot of Buddhist stuff in here, but also there’s stuff in all sorts of universal religions about the purity of a child’s soul, and that in the purity of a child’s soul, you’re almost responsible for God as a parent. It’s this whole new set of responsibilities and this whole new interpretation with the universe. It’s a different relationship with the universe. It’s a different relationship with the spiritual. And because you’re dealing with a creature, this baby, this version of you, that’s superior in every single fundamental way, that’s not materially. It’s even more superior to you in a lot of material ways, obviously, just hasn’t developed yet.

So it could be corrupted and put in the wrong direction, or it could be made as perfect as you could possibly make it.

And so that’s obviously one of your core principles as a parenthood, being the father to the Son.

So there’s a especially in Christian theology, there’s this idea of the Father and the Son. There’s Yahweh and Jesus, but it’s one and the same. There’s the Holy Spirit, and it’s this. I know not everyone’s a trinitarian. I’m not a trinitarian, but I understand what it’s trying to say. I think it’s a very clever, even though I don’t subscribe to that form of religion or Christianity, that’s a very, very clever way of explaining how there are these multitudes of forces that God acts through. And so God acts through the son and the father. Or there’s this obviously, separation of two primary forces, that being the sky father and that being the earth mother.

So this idea that women are a grounded, grounded force, like a womb or an egg, or a ball, a sphere, an earth, a plane, whatever you want to its a healthy environment. That’s what they’re meant to represent, a healthy environment.

And then you have, obviously, the sky father. The seed in the Bible or son of Odin or whether you’re pagan or Christian, we all agree that we come from the seed of God. And it’s a masculine force. It has different. It can be harsh, it can be cruel, it. But that’s not its purpose. Its purpose is it. It is struggle, it is hardship, it is strength, it is honour, it is all these kind of masculine forces and masculine energy. So we can immediately start seeing these two different energies playing out.

And so, obviously, as a father, you have an interesting relationship with your children, and as a mother, you have a different relationship to the father. And that puts two God forces or two separations of the God force onto the singular being, the singular life form that’s come from the mother and father.

So this idea of if we come from God, if we can come from one, what does. When two creates one, how does that reflect that relationship? How does it go back? How does one become two and two become one and one become two and two become one?

And I’m not getting into trannies or transvestites or anything like this. Obviously, there’s distortions of this relationship. There’s a distortion of the intermingling of the DNA. There’s a distortion. There’s bad practice, bad breeding practice. There’s bad coupling. There’s bad relationships. And when it’s not fused correctly, one into two and two into one. And this process, ad infinitum, you end up with these inversions and distortions and mutations. Mutation is an important part of evolution.

Regardless of whether you’re Darwinian or not. Mutation is key to evolution. And mutation and struggle work together to create evolution.

But what the factor of mutation is schism, and that it doesn’t always mutate correctly. It doesn’t always mutate on the straight and narrow. There’s inversions and distortions of reality.

So when people need to consider, it’s not all. This is sort of a bit Nietzsche and like a bit Beyond Good and Evil. Sometimes to understand an idea, you have to. You can only understand it in its form. That’s beyond placing good and evil on it. Not everything is in that. In the black and white, there are things that you can look at from black and white. Absolutely! But you also need to look at symbolism as well. Symbolism is important.

And an example of this is looking at. I’m not. Yeah, there’s obviously demons and there’s angels.

There’s obviously higher God forces or lighter good forces. And there’s obviously evil. Evil obviously exists. And it’s not that we need evil for good to exist. I don’t believe in that it’s just that for the organism to go beyond material, it has to be fighting constantly. It has to be fighting these forces. So whether it’s looking at society as a whole, whether you’re looking at children, raising a child and planning out the society that you want to build, are kind of the same thing.

And so in a society, there are people that make mistakes. I’m trying to give you a practical example of what I was just explaining about the presence of evil and the presence of good and their antagonism and the area where there’s in between and how to deal and manage with evil that exists. So in a society that we’re managing, vice exists, for example. There are always people that are going to want to schism away from the straight and arrow. There are people who want to try this method out or that method. They want to make their own mistakes. They might know that conventional wisdom says that this is bad and not to do it. Like, you know, for thousands of years, we didn’t let women vote, and then we decided to let women vote.

And so for thousands of years, the conventional wisdom was, this is not something that needs to be challenged or addressed or subject to.

And then in a very short period of time, we let women vote. That’s quite an interesting phenomenon that a lot of people reflect on, and it’s important to reflect on, because we let women make their own mistakes.

Now, that’s not really against natural law. If we create a healthy environment, and I don’t want people saying, Tom thinks that women should vote, or Tom thinks that not letting women vote is a bad idea, that’s not the path I’m going down. I’m just using it as merely an example to illustrate what if we never let women vote? What if we never had liberalism? What if we never had anarchy or chaos? How would we know how to course correct?

So when we’re dealing with the mistakes that women make, and then women can’t take personal responsibility for the mistakes they’re making, this is just a philosophical truth. Women will blame men. They’ve made these mistakes. They’ve, you know, begged or demanded that they have the right to vote. They’ve voted for all these Left-wing policies in 99% of cases. I think there’s only one instance where I think White women on the whole vote for Donald Trump, which we’ll get into later.

But obviously, Donald Trump is not anywhere near what he should be.

And the fact that that’s even an option is because women have been given the right to vote. So they’ll vote for maybe the slightly more Right-wing of the two. But that’s only because Donald Trump has been fundamentally longhoused by jews and by a feminine society, a liberal society. He is a liberal. But yes, where I’m going with this is you have two choices. You make a society that’s like a Garden of Eden, that’s walled, that keeps all the bad out, and you let women make their own mistake, or you let children make their own mistakes. You let women and children make their own mistakes. It’s like the forest people. You live in the forest, or you live in the Garden of Eden, in this kind of land that’s safe and hospitable, where Mother Nature rules, where there’s a very strong female creative energy, where there’s a strong childlike energy, where this is a safe and healthy environment for people to make mistakes, for people to trip and fall over.

And ultimately, it’s all eugenic. If you can’t live in the forest, if you’re not good at living in the forest, if you don’t fit in with that nurturing earth, then, well, maybe you should live in the forest now that can only exist with the masculine energy around it, with the walls, with the protection, with sharp sticks pointing outwards. So when women are making really stupid mistakes politically, and when women, for example, in recent news, just yesterday, I saw on the news that an Australian woman, I’m assuming that means a White woman, has travelled over to Paris for the Olympics and she just got gang raped by five Africans. And it’s rare that this is in the news because normally stuff like this happens and they just kind of wash it under, put under the rugged.

But in this case, they actually, it’s made the news here. It’s gone viral. And we all can see as men that are politically intelligent, that that is a pretty fucking stupid move to make. That’s like the most idiotic woman thing to do, to travel solo to these former nations like France or Germany or whatever, and think that you’re going to be safe, like thinking that you live in this world of multicultural utopia. It’s just absolutely insane and delusional. The real, the reality of living in this excuse of a society is an increase in things like this, an increased risk of getting gang raped. Just walking down the street as a woman, you would think that would turn all women into Nazis overnight. Now it turns them a little bit more. And it turns men a little bit more. Absolutely! Okay, we got to deal with this problem. We got a, all right, we’ve got a lack of sharp sticks. You know, we’ve tried this forest thing. We’ve tried this. Hey, let’s just make a nice, happy, healthy environment. And the kids you know, fall over and scrape their knee and then climb trees.

But overall, they’re safe. You know, people can make their own mistakes. Oh, look. Oh, they did drugs. Oh, but they’ve come good, and they’ve got a good career now. It’s like people can make their own mistakes and just move forward. It’s like, no, what we’ve created, well, we don’t know. We’re not even in charge of this anymore. The jews have come in and they’ve just set up horrible traps everywhere. They’ve just set up a huge amount of environmental stress and pressure, an unnecessary amount.

The only thing that the amount of stress is necessary for is to develop the correct consciousness and strength to remove the people that are putting you under that much of a stress of a threat. So when women make these clear and obvious mistakes, their naivety and the public’s, the masses naivety is Beyond Good and Evil. You see, it’s a childlikeness that’s meant to force the men of the society to stand up and just make the decisions for people, because we’ve had too long where we all sit there and talk about what decisions are going to be made of, instead of the men just being in charge and just making the decisions. And women are actually at a subconscious level begging men and likewise weak, anxiety ridden, sort of Leftoid communist men are begging for the strong men to actually stand up and make the right decisions because they’re only communists. They’re only these weak little freaks and faggots and everything else. They’re only like this because they’re being poisoned. They’re being poisoned. They’re subject now to this weak environment, and they’re, and even if at a conscious level, they’ll nip at your heels, though. Crabs in a bucket, you know, they’re obviously sick and demented. They’re kind of dying. Not all of them, but most of them, most of them are going down into the hole together.

Now, obviously, we’re not going to get sucked into it with them. You know, they’re all going in the bin. It’s all genetic waste, unfortunately, or like 99% of it is genetic waste. Only a very, very small group of people are going to get out of the rip before it implodes. That are in there that are already involved. If you’re already on the outside of that rip, you know, we’re swimming to safety.

But yeah, it’s self correcting. The earth is self correct, self correcting. And you have to consider that when you’re dealing with either a child, or a woman making their own mistakes, or whether you’re dealing with something that is inherently corrupted and can’t help itself. And does it really matter whether they can help themselves or not?

And that kind of takes me into the second question or the second part of this conversation, and that is a lot of people will FED post, actually, I have a pause first. I have a pause. Yeah, awesome! Okay, jet’s actually pretty up to speed once.

So the second part of this is you can theorize. Resolving hypotheticals in the short and intermediate term, you can theorize, okay, we’re going to cross these obstacles. What do we do?

And I think it’s very important for a movement, very important for its leaders. It’s important for anyone to have forethought and foreplanning, but often in that you can get caught in the traps of analysis, paralysis, you can get caught in the traps of ideas Manning. You can get caught in the traps of theorizing everything without any practice, without any action. And thought should always precede action, but you can’t have thought alone. And some people even get caught so deep in the question, and maybe I’m guilty of this myself, but there is a jewish question, for example, and people that aren’t initiated on the jewish question, people that don’t understand the jewish question, they immediately, when they hear it, they immediately jump to the Holocaust. And what they want to know as a kind of NPC, as you bring up the jewish question, what they want to know is Holocaust good or bad? Just straight away they’re just like, okay, is he coming at this? Is he bringing up the jewish question from the perspective that the Holocaust was bad, or is he coming at it from the idea that the Holocaust was good? And that’s like the immediate input code that they want.

And then when they’ve got that, let’s say you say Holocaust good, then immediately everything you say after that doesn’t matter.

And if you say Holocaust bad, they’re still sceptical. Then they’re like, okay, so what? So you hate jews? Do you hate jews?

So they’ve kind of been trained, they’ve been put under a spell, quite conveniently to the spell is very complex when you think about when you break down this idea. That as soon as you bring up a very important question, probably the most fundamental question, or at least the second most fundamental question, after knowing thyself, knowing thy enemy. So knowing thy enemy, knowing what the jews have been up to for thousands of years and how they’re continuing to behave, it’s an absolutely crucial, fundamental question.

But most people ignore its crucialness and its fundamentality because they have actually been given a pre-record download in their brain. And this plays out with almost every single person that you bring up the jewish question to. For now, although that number is dwindling massively! I remember ten years ago, it was basically every person I’d ever met.

And then you randomly meet one person that doesn’t run you through the NPC log, and they’ve actually got an open mind, and we’ll actually talk about the jewish question with you’re like, this guy is obviously a Nazi like me. How the hell does this guy know about the question? How does it. How is this guy able to rationalise the JQ?

And so you’re merely like, whoa, I found another one out there in the Wilderness, in the forest. But the I would say that it’s a much larger percentage. I can’t give you an exact percentage, but if it’s like, if it used to be one in a hundred people you talk to about this now, it’s probably probably one in three, I would say. I’d say probably one in three. And it’s almost regardless of age, I do think younger people are better. Older people are a lot. They know about it. They actually do know about it, but they’re a lot more scared to talk about it’s a much more of a social faux pas. They’ve kind of got that. I think the boomers are kind of got that aristocratic French anti-semitism where the idea was that it’s only for closed. It’s not for open discussion, it’s just for the aristocrats should know what’s going on. But the public don’t really need to know. It’s not something you really talk about lightly or in public.

Whereas I believe. I don’t believe in that kind of anti-semitism. I believe it’s something that should be spoken about publicly. I believe it’s something that should be spoken about regularly for the root, for the purpose of solving the question. So where people can get caught up in this question is they start looking at solutions that they can’t employ. That’s one of the most important things that I want to warn people against, where you talk about how we’re going to resolve the problem before we’ve taken power, because no matter what, however long the jewish conversation goes for the jewish question, no matter how long that conversation goes for, there’s two different ultimatums that you can reach. There’s an ultimatum where you’re talking about the Holocaust or not, or there’s an ultimatum where it’s, are we going to take power, or are we going to be just subject to the jewish question?

So I prefer people to go down the path of thinking about how do we take power, or we choose taking power over being subjected, over being enslaved to this question. So it’s not, let’s not talk about our slavery, or let’s only talk about our slavery in the Right circles. It’s let’s openly talk about our slavery so that we can no longer be enslaved. Because if we allow ourselves to be enslaved for much longer, we’re going to die collectively as a race.

So they’re leading us to the slaughter. They’ve got a very long term vision of that it’s not like next year.

And that’s why, I guess, a lot of people don’t understand how much has changed over 100 years. But the next hundred will continue going down the same path unless we revolt, unless we take back our countries from jewish rule, the jewish oligarchy. Now there are so many jewish questions, and people always want to know what I think about the what is the punishment? What should the punishment be for jewish behaviour? And we can’t really theorize that, and we can’t put that into practice either, just yet. What we need to focus on is taking power. And when we’ve taken power, then, and only then, can we then properly theorize an action, a punishment for how they’ve behaved.

So I guess when you’re asked this question about the Holocaust or not the Holocaust, or about what should you know, do you hate jews? Do you not hate jews? When you bring up the jewish question and someone takes serious offence to that, in my opinion, the conversation should go like this. What have the jews done? Have we got all the facts? We should investigate everything that the jews have done, and we should put them on trial, and they should defend themselves. They should be able to defend themselves, and we will put them on trial and let that judgement move forward, because until we’ve done that, how can we resolve anti-semitism if there is all these issues with anti-semitism? It’s like, why don’t we go to trial. Why don’t we go to judgement? Because the jews love judges. But this is where the question of Messiah or Caesar comes down. Who will be the judge? Will it be a jewish messiah or will it be a Caesar? Or will it be a Christ, 20.0? Or will it be a Hitler 2.0? Who will it be? Who will be the judge?

What Hitler’s instructions were to us was to fight for becoming man. Because the coming man, actually the one that’s strong enough to wield that question, the coming man is the one that’s strong enough to pull that sword from the stone. When the coming man pulls the sword from the stone, when the coming man can make judgement on this question, it is because everything has been exposed. It has to go to trial first.

Now, I suggest that it would be, and I know this is already in the hive mind, the idea that it would be a Nuremberg 2.0, but the jews need to be put on trial. I’m not going to say, and I’m not the comment. No one is to say, in my opinion. There are people that already say guilty. Everyone says guilty, guilty, guilty. You’re probably right.

Now, there are obviously people that are kind of less extreme. There are people within the conservative sections that are starting to touch on the jewish question. You know, I notice Tucker Carlson recently addressed AIPAC and addressed the Schofield Bible and addressed nefarious, offensive, subversive behaviour coming from people that happen to be jewish. How many lives have been lost because of AIPAC? How many lives have been lost? How many people are these jewish organisations responsible for killing, assassination, torture? You know, just all the wars in the Middle East, for example. I’m not crying over dead Hajis, but just to make a case against the jews. There is a case against them. This is clear. Everyone knows this. That’s not even touching on reserve fractional banking.

You know, the Rothschilds, the banking cartels, the Federal Reserve, usury, interest, the enslavement. Everyone’s got a mortgage to pay the jews. You’re not paying the government. Who’s getting the money? Who’s making the money? The jews. It’s going to the elite jews, the people behind the jewish power lobbies. What about Wall Street? That’s just one giant jewish casino. And the casino, the house always wins. And the house controls the house. You know, it controls government. You know, the big jewish house controls the well, the little jewish house controls the big, you know, American house.

So that’s something to consider. You know, that they’ve got this giant mafiosa scheme running out of Wall Street. You know, how many years would it take to go through and actually find all the corruption? Because we know it’s corrupt. We know. But to actually prove it, to actually pull apart every conspiracy that the jews have done, let’s say, in recent history, let’s not. We could make a case going back 3,000 years. Absolutely!

But let’s just do like a ten year case. If you did a ten year case and managed to articulate that, I mean, how long does it take to go from being sick of hearing anti-semitic comments to being sick of jewish crime? You know, how long does it take to go from being sick of hearing the word nigger to being sick of niggers? Like, you know how much time does it take?

Now obviously, we’re all at different limits. We’ve all reached. We’ve all got different limits. And you’re all here because you’ve reached your limit. Your tolerance has reached its limit for jewish lies, jewish conspiracy. You know, what they’re working towards, what they’re building towards and how they’re treating the area, how they’re treating us.

So that’s important to consider. But you cannot, you as an individual, you’re not actually making the call. The person that’s making the call, the coming man, the one that’s actually making the decision in time, is doing it alone. I’ll tell you that you actually cannot influence the one that will make that decision. Whatever you want to call the messiah, the coming man, the Aryan, the Christ, the antichrist, Hitler 2.0, whatever you’re calling Kalki, whatever you want to call them, you actually can’t influence that person. That person can only wield the sword alone. You know, they won’t do it or not do it because of what you say. So it’s obviously something that people are pretty confident about in our circles as to what should happen. And it gets exciting to think about justice for our people, considering what the jews have done to us.

But let’s redirect the majority of that energy into actually getting to the judgement. Let’s actually get to the judgement. Because if we don’t build enough power, if we don’t build enough White power, when that judgement happens, we’re going to be powerless.

So let’s get into a powerful position in order to assist that judgement taking place. And it will be fair. It will be fair and kind. The coming man is fair and kind. I assure you that’s an important trait. So that ties in. That ties in because it’s a triumph of the will, and it’s all about personal wills and the collective unconsciousness. The collective God lives inside of the White race. It lives inside of us. It’s our ancestral goddess. It’s an energy that we’re devoted to, and we are a devotion of it. And when we’re working towards something in a collective spirit, in a collective will, it’s being driven from behind through the strength of an ancestral God for our survival. And that ancestral God is a life force itself that’s gotten us to this point, that’s gotten us as far as we’ve gone. And there’s more to go.

Regardless of whether you believe we’ve fallen at some stage, because obviously we have. Things ebb and flow. We’ve obviously fallen from a higher point. We clearly had a higher point previously. And we’re on prison planet or something. We’re in a test. We’re in some sort of survival moment where we’re putting them not as healthy environment potentially, to what we’ve built in the past or where we’ve come from.

Regardless what we’re working towards, this higher being, we can see within ourselves how much of ourselves is being given to that higher being and how much is being given to other gods. And some of these gods aren’t gods. Some of these gods are demons. How much of yourself are you giving to demons? How much of yourself are you giving to these lower forces? When you give energy to these lower forces, it strengthens those forces. It strengthens that collective will.

And then that collective will defeats our survival. Collective will, our ancestral God. So we are whole and we are parts. And likewise a God. Energy is at whole and is at parts and is fighting itself the way we are fighting ourself. I’ll just take a pause.

So who is my God? Or who is your God? Who is your God? Because it has to be purer than you. It has to be stronger than you. But not just physically, beyond physically. It is a creature capable of higher self control, higher discipline, higher restraint, higher moral strength. This creature has to balance.

Of course, being aristocratic in the sense that is, the more purer your spirit, the more you’re kind of disgusted by impurity. But disgust as an emotion has many different forms. Sometimes it has the form of pity. Sometimes it has the form of hate. These are the two most common male and female versions of disgust as an emotion. Women, when they see something disgusting, often they’ll have pity for them. Men, when they see something disgusting, they hate like men hate faggots because they’re disgusting! But women, they kind of have pity on them. So but this is both a disgust reaction and that’s aristocratic, to have a disgust response. If you don’t have a disgust response, you’re going to get along with Indians. You know, you’re going to eat off the floor. You’re going to do all these things that Indians do because Indians have lost their disgust response in a lot of ways. And different races just have different levels of disgust response and special into kind of different areas that are probably about intergenerational survival. So.

But how do you do that without being a snob? And this comes to the elitist versus folkish principle. So God, your God, if you’re a National Socialist, has understood the balance between the aristocratic soul but without the snobbery and how to affect that within the individual psyche and within the collective psyche, because there has to be is God alone? Well, no, that’s another important.

A lot of people think that God’s alone. Yeah. No, no, because God needs us. This is another Aryan concept. This is understood by Aryans. God needs us. Yeah. It’s not, it’s not. The dependent is the wrong word. It’s not about dependence or independence. It’s this idea that it’s one and the same, that it’s a reflection.

So, yeah, that’s why you should take it seriously. The spawn of goddess.

But obviously, there’s a lot of factors that you can assess within the ideal, within the ideal man, within the ideal God. Because when you read about a God, when you learn about a God and you learn about what it does and how it behaves, that does define whether you become a follower of that God, whether you identify with that God, whether you’re a become integrated with that God. So, especially if the God is claiming to be perfect.

And so this is an interesting philosophical point, especially between Christianity and Paganism. Pagans can recognise that the gods are not perfect, whereas Christians have to accept that God is perfect.

So when you’re reading about Yahweh, and Yahweh clearly does something that you don’t agree with fundamentally, at your core, it’s not like a slight disagreement. It’s that at your essence and at Yahweh’s essence, there is a disagreement, a core disagreement. You have two options. You have only two options at that point. You, because you can’t. Let’s say, in this hypothetical, you cannot change your core disagreement, no matter how much you try to want to accept it, because you want to accept the whole package, and you want to understand that element. Or maybe there’s multiple elements, and you need to understand why at that element. Why is that a crossroads that you can’t pass? And I covered this, for example, on the previous stream that I did called the messiah or Messiah complex, where I didn’t talk about how leaders have messiah complexes, but I talked about how followers have messiah complexes. And the idea that I’ve lost a lot of men in my organisation because I’m not perfect. So I’ve lost Mendez, mostly Christians, because I’m not perfect, sometimes because I’m not Christian, but sometimes that means the same thing to them. So I’ve lost pagans as well, and I’ve lost a lot of agnostics and a lot of atheists or people that have never really articulated a spiritual belief other than, oh, my mum goes to church or something.

And then they kind of just talk more about worldview when you’re getting to know them or when you’re vetting them. But these people that I’ve lost, most of them, it’s been a personal.

There’s been a personal element to it that if Tom was better or stronger or this or that or whatever it was, then I would join him, or then I would stay involved, or then I would get involved. And that who I am as an individual is 100% reflective of the trajectory of where we’re going now. That could be true, that could be correct, and that would rely on all fascism, all National Socialism in order for it to be successful. To rely almost entirely on a cult of personality, which I am not super interested in. I think a little bit is healthy for any sort of organisation, community. I mean, when you’ve got a captain, like a footy captain in your team, there’s got to be a little bit of a cult of personality around your footy captain. It’s not like a 100% cult of personality, but it’s like a 10%. It’s like everyone’s like, he’s the guy. He’s the man. He’s the captain. And that’s a natural, innate. You want to have a certain amount of pride in the man that you’re calling your leader or your captain on the football team or your coach. You want to have this pride in your coach. You have this pride in your captain. And that’s kind of what I am I don’t look at myself as being this other kind of creature that’s much, much, much further down the road and a result of being born at the right time and being born at The Right Stuff, which time and stuff will tell. But at this stage, I see myself as that.

And I think it’s important for leaders to see themselves as that. And not every leader is a potential goddess. I know that sounds really rational, that we have to put it like that, but that is one of the breakdowns of White nationalism growing. One of the breakdowns is men hold the guy that’s one rung above them or two rungs above them or three rungs above them. They view these men as being the demigods that are going to save us from. It’s going to be the reincarnation of Hitler or Khalki. They’re looking for some. There are people that I think they don’t have. I think it’s just a maturity thing. I think when you’re young, you’re quicker to idolize, and maybe when you’re older, you’re quicker to be pessimistic or sort of shut down and be critical of people when you meet them.

A lot of people like that, when they become jaded and older. When you’re younger, you’re usually a bit pure. And you’re not looking for mistakes, you’re looking for the positives. People and mistakes, they pile up over time.

So that’s an important, that comes back to the Messiah complex. And then if we peel back from the Messiah complex, we can get into these. The difference between the Messiah and Caesar. So Caesar or Kaiser, the King of Kingsley, the emperor, however you want to put it, is a different character to the Messiah. They’re both. Everyone’s looking for this character in general, as I said before, some people are looking for the Messiah, some people are looking for Caesar, some people are looking for Trump. Some people are looking for Hitler, some people are looking for Christ, some people are looking for Muhammad. There’s obviously, the Chinese are always looking for a strong mandeh. They racially need a strongman. The Indians need a strongman of types. And there’s all these different types of front men or strongmen or spiritual leaders or religious leaders. There’s many different archetypes. There’s many different types of these. And you’re going to want the one that more closely resembles some sort of archetype of the chosen man on earth. From your version of what you think the chosen man on earth should be, like, Muhammadism is this idea. You know, Islam is this idea that fundamentally, at its core, that Muhammad is the perfect man, that he’s chosen by God to be the perfect man. God gave him this grace and power and pussy all these women and all these battles and all these victories, he got given all these things because he lived the perfect life. He was the perfect man. He was the chosen one, basically.

And so the more you live this guy, the more you understand what this guy was about, the more you devote yourself to him. And obviously, as the messenger for Allah, then obviously the better your life’s going to be. The more power you’re going to have, the more money you’re going to have, the more bitches you’re going to have. It’s like when Andrew Tate converted, it was just like, really? Is that, like, how long did, how long was that conversation? It would have been like five minutes of some Muslim explaining to him what Islam was about. He’s like, what the fuck? That’s what I believe. Holy shit, I’ve been Muslim this whole time. He’s like, yeah, brother, that’s how it works. You’ve been Muslim the whole time, and now you finally, you finally figured it out. You finally remembered that you were Muslim the whole time.

And so I do agree with that when it comes to religion, I do agree with. I don’t agree with Islam. I do agree that this is how people find themselves in religions. This is how people find themselves in ideals. It’s pretty simple. It’s also how people find themselves lost. Because there’s so many false idols, there’s so many people falsely promoted, and people are so busy with these celebrities, they’re not thinking about really crucial, important, either historical or living figures. And so probably the most historic living person at the moment, like, right now, at this very point in time, the whole world is. Their eyes are fixed on Donald Trump. That’s a fact, right? The whole world’s eyes. No, everyone’s eyes is looking at Donald Trump. He’s literally got everyone’s eyes on him. And that’s important to consider. That’s very, very important to consider.

And that’s why there’s this conversation about, is he going to be the man? Is he going to be the Caesar? Because we know he’s not the Messiah. We know he’s not Hitler 2.0. Even though the Left are like:

“Oh, he’s Hitler 2.0!”

He’s not Hitler 2.0. It’s not possible because Hitler was a mystic, you know, is India going to have a Gandhi 2.0? Probably, maybe. Would they be a mystic? Maybe. You know, are the Chinese going to have another Mao? You know, are the Russians going to have another Stalin or Lenin or Tsar Alexander? What are the Russians going to have next? You know, because we’re in this very dynamic situation with American politics, which is the Rome, the new Rome, and we’ve got the democracy. You know, we’ve got the Republic. It’s actually a more accurate way of saying we’ve got the Republic. It’s literally the Republic. And are we gonna have a Caesar? Are we gonna have someone that just. We know they’re not perfect. We know they’re not the Messiah. We know that they got a lot of fundamental. They’re not necessarily like a nobility aristocracy. They’re not going to be necessarily like a we know that Donald Trump, if he had the balls to do it, could never become in himself, in his own right, a dynastic religious figure. Not possible. He could be with Baron. Obviously, people, there’s eyes on Baron as well. What is The Prince going to become? What is The Prince? Because that does define the legacy.

Now, I’m not saying that Trump is our saviour, okay? But I’m saying that the world, a lot of the world, looks at Trump as the saviour.

Now, I don’t think the jews see him as the messiah. I think they just see him as a useful person to bring about the Messiah.

And I think we should consider that he’s a useful person to bring about the coming man as well. He’s not necessarily under our control. He sort of Donald Trump is quite strongly, he’s playing both sides. He’s quite obviously under the control of jews, but he is obviously, in his rhetoric, quite opening the door to White nationalism in his rhetoric. That’s a fact.

And that’s why he gets a lot of criticism from the Left. The Left-wing jews are saying to the Right-wing jews, hey, can we do zionism with a different person? This is not the person to help push jewish supremacy. This person’s opening the door a little bit too much to the far-Right, and we could have someone even more to the Left.

And then the jews like, no, no, no, that won’t work. The Right-wing jews are like, that won’t work. We need this guy. This is the guy. If he was more to the Left, it wouldn’t fool them. They would create their own. He’s in the exact perfect spot to get the majority of the White vote. You know that’s how Right-wing jews and Left-wing jews are sort of defining the caesar that they’re putting in front of you now. Is that conspired? Is that planned? I think it’s a bit of both. I don’t think everything’s like a hundred percent a jewish psyop, although I think that they don’t have to go to work like us. So they can actually sit there for long periods of time. And they have the map money. They have the power. They have the money and the power to actually do it, to actually move and shake things in the direction that they want it to go.

So I’m not going to get into the assassination and everything like that. We cover that on stream. But there’s these archetypes now. What is Trump now? Trump’s not my God! Trump’s not my Caesar. Trump’s. And I can understand why there’s a lot of Trump anti-Trump hate in our, you know, far-Right scene, because we want to not alienate ourselves from the broader right, but we want to make it really clear that that’s not the direction, that’s not, that this is not the guy and that the guy hasn’t arrived yet. He’s on the way. We don’t even know who the guy is yet, but we know that it’s not that guy. It’s something that’s going to come from this area. This is where it’s going to re-emerge the ideal man. This is like a pragmatic character that can get us a few things for now, but he doesn’t have the strength to go all the way. He doesn’t have the strength to resolve the question. He’s in bed with the jews, basically.

So how can he put the jews on trial? Because he would be putting himself under trial. So he can’t really do that. He’s in a difficult position. It’s not that he’s compromised in a sense that the way we look at usually how politicians are compromised, you know, usually when we look at a compromised politician, we’re talking about the fact that they’re compromised because the jews have got some actual proper blackmail on them, like child rape stuff. And look, I wouldn’t put it past Trump, considering I’m pretty sure he was friends with Epstein.

But there’s a lot of data to and fro.

But when I say Trump is compromised, I’m not alluding to that as a fact. It could be real, but I don’t know. What I’m alluding to is the fact that he just merely associates and intermingles and marries jews. And that, to me, makes him compromised. How could that man be the judge? How could that man swing the axe? How could that man make it? Make or swing the gavel? You know make the correct judgement on jewish crimes against White people? Not possible. So our energy needs to go into this, into we, until we have the guy.

So that’s what we’re working towards, which is pretty cool to think about that as a collective. We’re working towards creating the guy that’s going to do it but in order to create that guy, we actually all have to be working towards that, because it’s a race. We’re in a race to becoming man, to the Ubermensch. So it’s, you got to create a healthy environment for competition. You can’t, you don’t want anything to become too defined too early. You want to create healthy competition, competition and struggle. Struggle is the father of all things, and competition is a struggle, and struggle is a competition.

So that is an important concept to have in mind.

But, yeah, obviously the jews, when they want a messiah, they obviously believe that the messiah will come. Look, obviously there’s twelve different types of jews. There are a lot of different types of jews.

But one of those common messiah complexes for the jews is that he’s going to be a rabbi, that he’s going to be a teacher, that he’s going to come, the messiah is going to come, and he’s going to unlock the next stage and free jews from this material plant, and he’s going to do all these good things for jews. He’s going to put, he’s going to send jews to heaven. All the jews are going to go to heaven. And that’s when Messiah comes.

And I think a lot of Christians have a similar idea that with revelation and with the messiah or Christ, 20.0, obviously, there’s different kinds of Christians, and some believe that it’s already, Christ is already reborn in us, and they have that kind of take on it.

But I think most Christians and the typical Christianity that you’d learn about is this idea that when the Messiah comes, you’re going to heaven. We’re all going to heaven, which could be considered as a metaphor. It could be considered physical or literal, or it could be something beyond time.

So it could be this, I like to refer to heaven as being QUite a rational concePt, and that it’s beyond, it’s just simply beyond time. It’s not a word that describes a time frame. It’s a word that can only be understood not using a time frame. So I like the Roman concept of heaven, or one of the main concepts was Elysium, obviously popularised by Gladiator. And studying basic Roman history, you’ll find that it was this idea of what man is in the future. It was this idea of what my son is in the future. It’s this idea of, when I die, where am I going? In perpetuity, perpetually, where am I going?

So when you think about one of the types of heavens or afterlifes you can have, if you’re a Nordic warrior and this idea of going to Valhalla and the great hall where you fight and you feast and you’re fighting and feasting forever, indefinitely, and you keep respawning in the morning, so to speak, and this idea is beyond time. And so analyzing those afterlifes, analyzing those things, taking time out of consideration, what you’re looking at is timelessly, are we going to continue on this trajectory timelessly? Is this going to be always a core, fundamental part of who we are? Because that is the energy that you are. You are the fire. You are an element. Obviously, there would be people that would argue, well, that doesn’t look like heaven to me, because that just looks like one thing, and I feel more connected to God on a universalistic level. And heaven wouldn’t just be this one thing. Why would it just be that one thing?

And so then you’ve got to differentiate between a universalistic one thing, heaven, or is there like a pantheon of heavens, depending on which God you’re. If you special. If you Max into just one sub goddess or one of the gods, however you want to look at from polytheistic perspective.

So, yeah, will there be a people. Will there be a people in Elysium? Are the Romans in Elysium now? Are there Romans still alive, materially, genetically? Are there Romans still alive? Is that Roman archetype? Is it going to survive likewise? Is the Germanic, or is the Nordic, is its archetype going to survive forever? Is it alive right now? Are there Vikings right now? Are there people that still have that same spirit and that same blood and that same drive? Are they alive right now? Are they actually beyond time? Is the struggle between the Aryan and the jew? And obviously, I just articulated two Aryan civilisations, the Germanic race of Aryans and the Roman race of Aryans, and then both being Aryan, but both having slightly different forces, one Evola would say more being and one more becoming, one more domesticated or civilised, one more barbaric and free.

So, but two fundamental Aryan subraces, or forces, which you could say is similar in the spirit between the Greeks and the Scythians, for example. You could even say, in some ways, going back, if we want to go Old Testament, you could say, in some ways, it’s the later stage deterioration between Jacob and Esau. You know, these two for. Perhaps you could. I’m not going to do that. I’m not going to say that. But that’s an idea that you could have.

So if you think about the ancient, there’s an ancient battle between the Aryan collective unconsciousness and the jewish collective unconsciousness, and it’s beyond time. And to go on to a deeper, well, I don’t know, I need to have a breather. I need a break. But there is obviously that further ideal or idea that comes. I think the first time I learnt or studied the idea was a Roman historian talked about the need to not destroy Carthage. That if we destroy Carthage, it’ll weaken Rome. And that once Carthage is destroyed, there’ll be nothing to keep us in this kind of perpetual check.

And obviously they. Well, it’s bigger than just a perpetual check. But this idea that there needed to be that relationship between the two, ultimately they went down the path they were going to go down. It’s kind of a silly question. If you were looking at Woolies and Coles like the duopoly of supermarkets, it’s like you destroy one. Like, ultimately one’s going to destroy the other. If you maintain the duopoly for in perpetuity.

I mean, yeah, you can’t stop these forces of nature. Like, it’s eventually going to go to one, and then one’s going to go into lots. Like everything’s becoming a monopoly. And that’s the jewish goddess. That’s the jewish God. The jewish God wants everything into a monopoly. That’s the jewish God. That’s why everything’s gone global. So they can then all be owned by Israel and Wall Street. They want to just own everything. They want to control everything. They want to control all material. They want to enslave all material. And that’s their goddess, that’s what their God wants. That’s their bio-spirit. That’s just innate to them. We don’t. We don’t. We want to have a different kind of marriage with material. We’re not like neurotic, anxious, obsessed, like the jewish God over the bag of money. It’s not that we don’t want the bag of money. But that it’s that I. We recognise that there’s a bag of money, and I don’t want the jew having it. Is it gonna weaken me? It will a little bit, but can. Is there ways of strengthening with it? There are ways of strengthening. Okay. All right.

So it’s like, there’s this, like, rational conversation around material, around our relationship with material. That’s because our God’s very philosophical that way. Obviously, the jewish goddess rationalises things as well. I’m not saying that the jewish God doesn’t. The jewish God has a lot of internal monologue, maybe even more than ours, probably a little bit more than us. But quantity is not quality. That doesn’t make their God superior than us. I want to make that clear. But yes, they have a God, and yes, we have a God. They’re two separate gods.

This idea that they’re the same God, well, there are people that will try in the future to say that there will be people who understand this fundamental truth, that there is a jewish God and that there is an Aryan God.

And then they will make some sort of argument that these gods are both demigods of the same God. And that is philosophically correct. But they will probably make that conception, they will probably make that argument that they are two demigods of a total universal God. They will make that argument more specifically for the purpose of subverting justice or subverting judgement down the track as to what should happen down the track. Because they’ll say:

“Well, this branch is of the same tree, and so therefore this branch cannot be removed. We can’t prune this branch despite the fact that it’s rotten because it’s part of the tree. Pruning the branch would be equivalent to pruning the whole tree.”

And that is a false philosophical statement without proving the statement incorrect, as that it is the branch of the same tree. I don’t think, I doubt that.

But in saying that, in saying that is another way of saying, therefore, God’s not perfect. Because if we have an ancestral God and they have an ancestral God, then in theory, those, both those gods come from the same God in theory. And therefore that God is not perfect in entirety. It’s perfect only in some exclusive way. There’s only a small part of that God that’s perfect, and there’s things of that God. There’s parts of that God that are not perfect. And God, over a long enough timeline, is perfecting its perfection.

Now, I think that’s a pretty first thing that’s one I think, regardless of whether you’re Christian, pagan or agnostic, have no religious beliefs. I think that’s one that you could say is fair if you’ve been thinking about it, because for a very long time, I didn’t call myself religious, but I believed that God existed. And there’s that weird early phase of your own personal religious or spiritual development where especially being raised as an atheist, anyone that was raised as an atheist would certainly have to reflect upon what did they, how did they feel about life as a whole when they were in that phase.

And then at some point you graduate, at some point you change to thinking, well, actually, hang on a minute. There is animation.

Actually, hang on a minute. There are these things beyond just chemicals. There are these things just beyond elements. There are things beyond just the material.

There’s obviously something going on at a deeper level. I can feel it. I can just feel it. You can’t even rationalise it yet. You can just feel it.

So, yeah, I’ll just take a pause. I’ll take a pause. I haven’t really addressed the chat much. I think I’ve been going an hour and a half.

But that was just my whole flow for this stream was just because I haven’t done one, about six weeks was really just about God. And then I, obviously you have prophets to gods. You have, you know, as I said in the title, the Messiah complex, the Caesar complex, you have all these sort of things, and some are man made and some are made by God. And, yeah, I don’t want people sitting on their hands doing nothing. It’s a hard relationship to have with Trump as a character because you don’t want people doing nothing, but you don’t want people worshipping him. You want to make it very clear that this is not the guy, but also realise that people are at least politically energized that previously weren’t. And maybe they need to be let down. And when they get let down by the false idol, then they can find the true light. That’s a pretty common way of putting it without being too sort of artsy. That’s a pretty common way that religions will talk about The Times that we’re living in, but they’ll speak of it in the future, talking about right now, talking about the past. And they’ll say how these kind of times men were tested were really, really tested between these dragged between these forces. Absolutely dragged between them.

So, yeah, pause.

Okay, so I haven’t really gone through the comments at all! The most recent comment was, sorry. The oldest comment I can scroll back to was 40 minutes ago. So any comments at the start of the stream? I can’t really go through. I’ll just start reading them at random. There’s nothing really jumping at me. The governess says the magic is surreal. Watching normies do mental gymnastics around the JQ is just amazing! Most normies don’t even know a jew or has only met one before, but will defend them to the death, it seems. Oh, that’s when I was talking about the program. When you run the program. Oh, that’s absolutely incredible phenomenon.

And once you start realizing that, you start working out how to beat the computer you’re talking to. Some people say, there’s no point trying to beat the computer. You can’t UN programme the TV, but you can UN programme the TV. I don’t like arguing with people. I get tired arguing with people. But you just have to realise what the input code is and everyone’s got the correct, there’s correct sequence of information. A lot of times when people start talking about, oh, just kill them all. Then obviously people that are at a previous input code, it can stagnate them in their journey and their growth. The next one is, do I think the hit on Trump was genuine fake? I said, I wouldn’t really talk about that because, yeah, it’s just America. What I’ve always said on these streams, these big, long rants, is, I’ve always said, America is a reality TV show.

So it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. Someone says, can anyone else not donate to this page? Yeah, I’m not sure how donations work, obviously. Sorry. Ideally, I’d like to take one day off work a week and stream and produce content, articles, essays, write my books, read more, do all the things I’d like to do during the week. And it’d be nice if I could work out a way of fundraising that. So that day off a week is still covered, so I can still pay my bills, but I’ll work towards that. We’ll get there. We’ll get there. But, yeah. I don’t know anything about shilling for money on Odysee. I don’t even know how it I don’t have it linked. I’ve got, like, a certain amount of these little credits, and I don’t know what the conversion of that is into Australian dollars. And I’ve just left it in there the whole time that I’ve had this.

So I don’t know how that works, but I’ll work it out. People just talked about. Yeah. Is it possible that I’m not seeking donations?

Well, look, it’s just a mixed bag. It’s like, yeah, it’d be nice, it would help, but no, it’s not my motivation for doing this. Zero says who would win? Every top intellectual in the West versus one Aussie construction worker. Yeah. As long as that construction work has got confidence. I’ve got confidence in myself, I’ve got self respect.

So, yeah, it’s important to know who you are as an individual. It’s important to know, like really know. That sounds really like a meaningless platitude, but if you can stop all the distractions, if you can just shoo away all the distractions, every distraction, every conversation, every idea, everything. If you can just get it all out away from you, meditate, if you have to work it out, and then when you’ve gotten rid of all those things, if you can then be put in a conversation with the enemy, ideological enemy, whatever, some Leftoid intellectual, if you can clear out all the distractions, what you’ll find in that conversation, if you just say the truth!

If you just say the truth, if you’re just honest, you’ll destroy any intellectual. You’ll destroy any intellectual. Yeah, there’s a there’s a genius of youth, there’s a genius of just being a child. And often that’s what I’m channeling when I’m answering questions, when I’m dealing with journalists or when I’m dealing with. I kind of just try to channel my inner child. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I often go into an interview, or a conversation and it helps me to not swear. It helps me to not swear. I’m not actually doing this today, but maybe I can have a breather, get a drink or something and come back and channel it a bit more. A bit better. But I often don’t swear as much when I’m doing it properly, when I’m really channeling. And I kind of have this empathy into my former self, I have an empathy into ten year old me.

And if ten year old me knew everything that I know that young kid, but had my strength, that I have now, but had that ten year old’s clarity and purity and honesty and naivety, in the sense that there is consequences, there’s consequences for saying the things that I say. When I say what I say, there’s consequences. I know. I know there are consequences, but I just don’t care! I just don’t care about the consequences of saying the truth and my observations, whether I’m right or wrong, it doesn’t matter. It’s irrelevant whether I’m right or wrong, because that’s peer review as far as I’m concerned. I don’t care for peer review. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. It’s the truth! It’s my truth, you know, so it’s all irrelevant.

And ten year old me is just so honest, so brutally honest. It’s not tainted by the world of politics and the world of compromise, and there’s a youthfulness that you have to hold onto. You know, how could you lie to your own children? Because your children know when they’re lying, when they’re being lied to most of the time. And how could you lie to your own children? You know, when you talk to the public, the public have, in innate naivety, sometimes as well, a purity. The White public, the White masses have a natural naivety. They just trust the people who are in charge, because that’s just. They’re busy little bees, and there’s nothing ignoble about the bee. The bee is a noble creature. It’s all part of God’s plan. The bee is part of God’s plan. And the White normie or the White lukewarm, or the White neutral, however you want to put it, the White uncommitted is a busy little bee. They’re a busy little bee. And they’re just loyal to the Queen, they’re just loyal to the government. They’re just loyal to whoever’s in charge.

So that’s something to consider as well. Yeah. I hope I have a breather. I have a pause because we’re way off topic, but I just got caught. Yeah. Someone says:

“This is the most boring content I have ever seen!”

That’s cool. That’s awesome! Well, as I said, it’s not really for peer review. That’s not why I’m doing this. Yeah, if it’s boring, just turn it off. Like, they want me to be more entertaining. They want their God is got a bit more of jester. They want, like, a court jester. They don’t want a Caesar. They don’t want to. Or if they have a Caesar, they want the Caesar to be like WWE Caesar. You know, he’s got to be like an entertainer, like Trump, because Trump’s not boring. Trump’s an entertainer. He’s the funny orange man. You know, he’s a clown. Trump’s a clown. Very entertaining. All eyes are fixed on the clown. Yes. The clown emperor. That’s what Trump is. He’s the clown emperor and yeah, he’s made a lot of money. He’s made a lot of money. He’s the rich fool. He’s the rich clown emperor. The rich fool emperor, yeah.

So if he is Caesar, that’s what kind of Caesar he’ll be. Yeah, he’s the rich fool Caesar and I’m boring. Are you religious, Tom? Well, that’s sort of covered, yeah. Yeah. Someone says, low barrier to entry for Islam. That’s when I was going on about the it’s a giant rave gang. That’s a good point. What’s odd about Muslims and Indians is that Islam talks about certain health rules and wrestling, and the Hindu gods are portrayed as these jaguar. But every Muslim in Indian and Melbourne is lanky or fat. Yeah. Well, they’re just not even very loyal to their own.

I mean, the Hindus and the Sikhs, they’re not very loyal to their own gods. Or they’re. Excuse me. They’re kind of loyal. Every religion devolves like this. Every religion devolves where people follow one set of rules but not the others.

So you see that in Christianity. You see that in Judaism. You know, people. Some people follow the rule about chopping the top of your penis off. You know think about how insane that is. That’s absolute insanity! Imagine. Imagine your God just for one moment. You have a God. You all do. And your God wants you to chop the top of your penis off for them. Just have a think about that’s your God. You’re in this conundrum. You’re back in the conundrum where it’s like, do you submit to this God? Or do you pick a new one? Do you submit to this guy? Why does this guy. Why does this creature, this thing, this thing beyond thing things, what’s it doing with my foreskin? What’s it doing with it? Like, why would your God want that? That’s your idea of a God? I don’t recognise that God. That’s the God of the jews. That is the God of the jews. I don’t care what you call your religion. I don’t care what you call it. Call it whatever you want. It’s not really about what you call it’s about what it does, isn’t it? Isn’t that kind of a crucial subject? It doesn’t really matter what you call your religion. What matters is what it does. What does it do? What does your God do? Tell me. Tell me. What does your God do? Tell me. Not what do you believe in, but what does your God do? Who is your goddess? What is his name? What does he do? That will tell you a lot about people. That probably tells you the most when you really think about it, if you really want to know someone. Isn’t that funny that the boomers kind of created this, or the jews passed on to the boomers? The jews gave the boomers a curse, lots of curses.

But one of the curses that seemed to have stuck quite well with them is don’t talk about religion or politics at the dinner table. You know, how can you really get to know someone if you don’t know their God? And it takes me back to like Rudyard Kipling. It takes me back to the 19th and, 200th century, where people are like, early 20th century people are discovering other cultures and they’re writing about them. And there’s all these racist writers at the moment that have discovered Muhammadism. No, not at the moment. Sorry.

But there’s a lot of once from about 100 years ago, becoming quite noticed in 2024, they weren’t really, they were really only noticed by a really small subculture that was sort of cotton dawn.

But, you know, now it’s becoming almost a mainstream talking point. Like like Lovecraft, like HG Wells, like obviously Kipling. Kipling’s always been based. Everyone’s always known that.

But there’s a few others that I’m skipping over. Yeah, just some old. Ancient. Not ancient, sorry. Some old, you know, early 1900s writers or late 1800s writers. And they’re still popular from their works in the modern time.

And obviously the communistic education system has been removing these people from the curriculum since they noticed it in the sixties and seventies that this is bygone stuff. And let’s replace it with, I don’t know, little Tom Sawyer or something like that. Like, let’s replace it with the die of the day, the communist sort of Left-wing leaning literature of the day, not this stuff.

So, yeah, that’s important. That’s important to know. What was I saying? To really know someone, you have to really know who their God is. You have to really know who their God is. And, yeah, then you understand someone’s fundamental position.

So this makes this makes the argument argument, like we’re gonna have an argument with Islam. Like, it’s going to be an argument.

But the question as to, obviously, can Islamists, Mohammedans, whatever, can they exist within Europe? Can they exist within North America? Can they exist within any White colony? Can we tolerate Islamists, Mohammedans, considering who their God is?

Likewise the jews? Can we tolerate any of them living in proximity to us when we know what their God is, we know what their God wants of them and what their God rewards. And we need to understand this at a very thorough level. And this Nuremberg 2.0, if you want to call it that, I think that would be very poetic to have it there. I think a lot about how, at the end of World War One, the French made the Germans sign the peace treaty in that train.

And then when Hitler defeated the French in six weeks, he took them back to that same exact train and made them sign the inverse peace treaty back to Germany in the same train. He was very poetic like that.

And I believe that the tragedy that was Nuremburg, not just the horrible Holocaust against the German people and the firebombing and the killing in the millions of German civilians, at Nuremberg itself, the most disgraced, the worst, the biggest injustice in legal history.

And I think that’s actually why I read Imperium by Francis Yockley. I think he starts with that. I think that really hooked me when I was reading Imperium for the first time. I think he was talking about it as being the greatest injustice to think how they treated those great, noble men at Nuremberg.

And so I think it would be very spiritually valuable that when we do make judgement on the jews, that we do it at Nuremberg. I think that’s the one place it should be, where we turn the cards on them, where all the jews, all the people responsible when the investigation is done, all the people responsible are all put. You know, whether it’s a Covid agenda. It’s interesting that the cookers talk about this. Nuremberg two. We need a Nuremberg two. It’s true. Absolutely, absolutely!

But it’s not like Nuremberg two. Like:

“Oh, we’re going to kill all the Nazis!”

Again, it’s like Nuremberg two. It’s like the inversion of Nuremberg one. The same way that Hitler did an inversion in the train carriage. He was like, train carriage two, we’re going to do train carriage two, but this time it’s going to be different.

And I think about that a lot with a lot of things. Like, we’re going to do this number two. There’s gonna be Hitler too, but he’s gonna be different this time. Yeah, there’s gonna be some things that are gonna be, like, interestingly different because Hitler won. This is what you did to him. So then there’s gonna be Hitler, too, and vice versa. I’m sure. Anyone that’s following along with any sort of prophet idea or idea of their God as their God reincarnates or as forces reincarnate or as factors replicate like the train carriage or like, Nuremberg. Yeah, I think that’s important. Yeah. Someone says that a couple guys are appreciating the Elijah Schaffer interview.

As I said, I didn’t have much time to meditate before that interview. I was quite agitated just by the forces of the universe. Not by Elijah or not by anything else, but just rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. Go, go, go. I didn’t. It was a very, very busy weekend. We had a lot of club stuff on, and I was really under the pump.

And then on top of that, to chuck in that interview, at the same time as all these other things I’m trying, trying to resolve and work out, there’s just not enough time in the week and no holiday or no trip, is there ever enough time to do all the things that need to happen. But I didn’t get enough time to meditate as much as I would have liked to beforehand.

And when I say meditate, I don’t mean any specific larp. I don’t mean necessarily sitting cross legged and omming or any sort of specific box breathing or anything like that. Meditating, to me can be, as I do occasionally do the box breathing, and I do occasionally do breathing techniques, but I try to go beyond that. I try not to even incorporate some sort of theory. I try to just completely tune out everything. And what it might look like is me going for a walk, looking at things, but I’m not actually looking at anything. I’m not looking at anything materially. I’m just really inside my own space. And what my body’s doing is just wondering. My body’s just wondering because I’m in there wondering. I’m in there configuring and finding out where I am.

And then, yeah, then you can do a proper interview. I don’t suggest this to everyone. It’s not like if an interview comes up for one of you guys. It’s not like that. You’ve got to go for some. You’ve got to Rey, you’ve got to invent some process to get yourself in character or up to speed or in tune with you or whatever you’d call it. I just think that thinking is very important. It’s very important to just have clear thinking. Very, very clear thinking. And just if life is so fast and it’s going and there’s so many distractions, it’s very hard to answer truthfully or honestly or you’re often going to answer things pragmatically because you’re just caught up in time. You’re caught up. But to be beyond time to be. To get something, to get something new out, because you can just sit there and regurgitate talking points, but to get something new out, to get whatever it is that you’re carrying as a message, because you’re carrying something almost everyone’s carrying, some unique way of putting it. And when you’re carrying that, you have to be able to tune into that you have to believe that you’re carrying it to begin with. You have to believe that you’re carrying it. If you don’t realise that, if you’re just silent and you’re on the Internet, you might not believe that you’re carrying something crucial to unlocking it, that there’s not a messenger inside you, obviously, there’s. People have many different qualities. Some people will not be geared heavily in mercury in the sense of, from a paganistic way of looking at it, the messenger. You know, there’s a messenger goddess. In any pantheon, there’s a messenger God.

In any pantheon, there’s a God that has a relationship, often with speech, often with news or wisdom as well. Sometimes these things can be blurred. The library is a place where you can access old information, the archives, but you can also access the current information. These kind of temples and this kind of God force has always been built around. Is it wisdom and justice coming through in your message, or is it you’re just passing on something? It’s important for you to pass on something, and that’s why you have to have self confidence. You have to the reason why, in a strange way, the reason why it was me talking to Elijah Schaffer. This is a very strange way of looking at it, but I think it’s kind of true. In a strange way, you’re watching me talking to Elijah Schaffer. When you have the same ideas that I have, we have very, very similar ideas, we’ve probably have very similar life experience.

But the reason why it was me having the conversation and you watching, not the other way around, was that every conversation that I had with human beings up until the conversation with Elijah, I picked a path in that conversation that ended up being on that show and being interviewed, when you have roughly the same articulism and ideas that I have, some of you might even be better spoken than me and might even be a better representative for the Rex. You might even be Whiter than me. I might look kind of not even that White for a White nationalist. But what I want everyone that’s watching this to consider in their own personal lives is when you’re having the conversation with whoever, your physiotherapist, your mechanic, whoever you know, a family member, a friend, whoever you’re having this conversation with about not just the jewish question, but just our race, our civilisation, when you’re doing the racist foreplay, when you’re talking about this stuff, when you’re talking politics, every single one of those conversations counts towards your personal gravitas. It counts towards you making significant change. I want you to consider that and how important it is to put the right input code in to be aware that you’re trying to help deprogram good hearted people in society that would understand that, would see if given the opportunity.

But we need to work out how to give them the opportunity. So we can’t save them all, and we certainly can’t save many of the degenerates, but there’s a lot of lukewarms in the middle, and a lot of them we can save, maybe even the majority.

But first, obviously you have to save yourself first, obviously you have to. It bleeds out from the centre.

So the centre is the self, and then what bleeds out from the self is the direct family. Direct family.

So you have to have the confidence, especially with your wife, or if you’re a woman, especially with your husband. If you’re younger and you’re dating boyfriend, girlfriend, 100%, you cannot ever. This is something that’s so core and fundamental to you. It’s something that you should freely express in the best way possible to the people around you that are closest to you. And it bleeds out from there. And when we all collectively do this, The Voice, when we all collectively use The Voice, this sounds kind of Skyrim, kind of I don’t know, it’s a bit lappy, but it’s true. It’s The Voice. Hitler used The Voice. This is a very, very important point. You have to use The Voice. It’s not just about listening to me use The Voice. You have to use The Voice. The Aryan spirit has to channel through you, through your voice, whether you’re a man, or a woman, whether you’re young, or whether you’re old. The Aryan spirit has to be channeled through you, and it has to be used through The Voice. You have to use The Voice. You have to speak up. We can’t win until you speak up. That’s the truth!

So it’s not necessarily about me marching through the city with the guys when there’s enough of us. No, no, no! Even before then. Even before then, until you’ve used The Voice you can’t help the next stage.

So that’s when there’s enough of us. I mean, we are in an interesting situation in the, where we’re seeing in real time a change in doxing, the impact of doxing, and we’re seeing a real change. And there’s a trajectory. The more people that use The Voice, the more people that use The Voice, the more people they go mask off. The general trajectory. Yes, there are still casualties, but the general trajectory is less damage. That’s a fact. One of the most surprising ones was recently a senior guy within the organise who’s actually in quite a senior white-collar role. He was recently doxxed, and we were all kind of like:

“Oh, it’s going to be over for him because he the kind of guy that the system hates because they’ve got resources, they’ve got skills, kind of one of our older hits.”

And his boss was just like:

“Nah, it’s cool. Just keep it on the download. It’s fine. Don’t stress.”

Yeah, I’ve been contacted by people, but I stress about it also.

Actually, let’s talk about your contract for next year. You know, it’s going up. And the guy’s actually had two pay rises in the time since he got doxed, since his boss found out. And that is just, that’s pretty much unheard of in that, in those kind of industries. I won’t say what industry he’s in, but that’s pretty much unheard of most people had to bounce around. They had to find new jobs in the same industry. They still kept their white-collar jobs because I know a lot of White-collar guys are worried. Blue collar guys, not as much. Most of the people we recruit, atrades and younger guys.

But when we do recruit white-collar people, they’re very like, oh they trade on eggshells with everything. They usually don’t come to activism. They usually just do the training side of things and the community building side of things. And they’re usually mostly guys we’ve lost when they’ve settled down and had families.

And so that’s what we’re trying to prevent now with more of our community building process. Community building wasn’t the it’s not the means of itself. It’s the idea of we need to be a multi-generational organisation, and we can’t just keep losing our old heads. We can’t just keep losing our family men we can’t just keep losing people that have skills.

So it’s just like a very simple way of keeping the political organism alive.

So that’s something to consider. That’s something consider. Yeah. Someone says, is Tom’s interview Schaeffer on Rumble? Only on Rumble now. It’s been uploaded onto Twitter Telegram. Now. There’s, like, full versions of it. Tom needs to do another episode of Racist Couch.

Yeah, we’ll get around to it. Just been very, very busy. People just send in their regards. Someone saying in the chat, the God of the jews is Satan. Yeah, there’s a few people arguing the chat. Why were the Germans geopolitically aligned with the Muslims in World War Two? Or some of them? That’s just people not having an understanding, a most basic understanding of history. There was. When it becomes a World War, no one really addresses much, but I’ll try and do it quickly. When it becomes a World War there’s these intricate details of Germany’s fighting Britain in Europe, but there’s this intricate detail where the German armed forces have worked out how much supply or manpower is coming out of India, for example, to support their war effort. That’s what their intelligence would say.

And then there’s parts of the intelligence unit would be briefing a general on this kind of side quest being like, look, how much is there something we can do about this? And then it’s another part of the intelligence that would say:

“Oh, there’s actually a big anti-British movement in India, for example. And let’s say it’s a bunch of Muslims in what we now call Pakistan, and they don’t want anything to do with the British support of India. Should we help support this group here to cause destabilisation in India in order to stop India from supporting Britain in our war in Europe?”

And the intelligent decision, pragmatic decision on the ground would have been, yeah, absolutely! Let’s do everything we can to sabotage a British supply of manpower and resources and food and this and that and the other. Whatever else India is producing. Let’s try to, if we can destabilise this by 20%, then.

So there’s a cost analysis of it as well.

So it’s not just morally, is this the right thing to do?

But it’s more strategically, is this the right thing to do?

And then obviously there’s the cost analysis, which all sort of middle managers have to do. And what you have to do when you’re at war, not in a holy war, even though it was a holy war, but, yeah, there’s just always going to be middle management people that have to make these kind of calls.

And so this idea that it’s like Hitler’s personal alignment, it’s like, yeah, like, again, Hitler was so busy, Hitler was so caught up in all these things, that Hitler didn’t have enough time to speak to himself and be alone and make the right decisions. A lot of the time, decisions were just made for him because there was just too many decisions. Imagine Hitler, World War Two. How many decisions? The man’s already micromanaging more than any political leader of the day. Like, he was micromanaging way too much. And I can guarantee he wasn’t micromanaging that it’s just something that just happened. So don’t take too much philosophical offence to that or think that Hitler’s impure because of that. Someone says here, what advice would you give to help with expanding a small orc? Yeah, sorry, I’m just reading through a few more questions. Yeah, I think a lot of what I said on the stream is advice for a smaller.org. You have to have the right calibre of Mendez. You have to have the right colour of men. That’s really the most important thing.

And so when you’re vetting someone, when you’re. You want to grow small, you want to grow slow to start with. You don’t want to just accept every person that comes in to start with. You want to just take your time. You want to really take your time. Engaging, evolving. You’re not, you don’t want to rush into it, because you need to know that these first few men that you’re triving and training with, that they’re the ones that can stick around. They’ve got The Right Stuff. They’re made of The Right Stuff, and that they have the same God as you. I think that’s very important as well. No matter what they call their God, they have to have the same ideal as you. They have to have the same principles as you. It can’t just be surface level ideology. It can’t just be like, yeah, I hate niggers, or, yeah, I hate the jews, or that’s not enough. That’s not enough. When you’re a small group, I think you really should get the Right calibre of guys around you to start with and then you can start taking on people. Then you can start taking on when there’s enough of you and you’ve got enough of a cultural weight. You know, like this little click that you’ve made of it has a cultural weight to it.

And then when you add people into it doesn’t dilute it too much too quickly. It can always maintain its cultural weight. When it dilutes, it gets a feedback. It dilutes and it feeds back. It doesn’t just dilute, dilute, dilute, dilute until the group doesn’t even know what it is anymore and you’ve got a really big group that doesn’t have any real principles or values. Because I’ve built groups bigger than what I have now, much bigger, but it doesn’t matter. It’s like you’re back at square one. As soon as you try to change anything in the right direction, you’re much better. Starting with a pure core. And you don’t want to dilute yourself, your core, with time.

But you can accept, I don’t know if projects is the right word, but you can accept guys that that they’re not at the standard, but you can articulate the standard to them and help develop them and not over nurture them, but help develop them and see if they can grow to the standard.

But, yeah, enforcement, strict standards for your inner circle. That’s what I would say. And ideally, you’d want to keep the majority of your inner circle as you’re in a circle. It’s not a fun process, demoting people out of your inner circle, because this is another thing people don’t consider. When organisations first develop, the length of time someone has spent in the to begin with is more important than anything else. That’s the beginning of all organisations. So if someone’s been around longer, then that’s like the sole kind of hierarchy or authority.

And as you get bigger, when you’re like five guys, that makes sense because when there’s five of you, there’s a new guy, and when there’s six of you, there’s a new new guy, and that goes up, that just keeps happening until you’re sort of at like 1215 guys. It still always happens, but eventually you start losing track of who the newest, newest guy guys. There’s like a few new guys because you’re bigger and you’re growing at a different rate and you’re kind of like 40 or 50 guys. And maybe there’s three that are new this week versus in the early days. It’s very slow. It might take two months or three months before you go from five men to six men. It’s very, very slow growth in the early days, but it’s more about quality. Don’t worry about quantity in the early days, just worry about quality.

So that’s very important. Yeah. When you’re a larger group, you have a structure. You have a very clear structure. You have people that have very clear roles. And there’s a much clearer hierarchy. And that hierarchy gets clearer and clearer the larger the group gets. Under 100 guys, there doesn’t need to be that much clarity. Just people need to know who their go to guy is. People need to know who their rep is. We don’t need to have a cult of personality around junior leaders or senior leaders or the leader, especially not when it’s so small and tiny.

So you can define yourself, you can declare yourself, you can. As a small group leader, you can create a small individuality of your leadership because you’re a captain, you see, you’re a captain, so you’ve stood out. You’re a man amongst men, and you’re a captain and you deserve it. And I don’t have any. I like that a lot. A couple of my state leaders are like that they kind of I won’t name who, but there’s a couple guys out there and they there you get it. Like, it’s They want to. They want to maintain. You’ve got this or you’ve got a brand, but they want to just like, push the boundary of the brand.

When I was in the army, there were some offices that would salute different. I’m not going to do it on recording, but there was a way that you were taught to salute, but there were officers that would like. They would salute clearly outside of the pan. There’s a Pam on how to salute and how to. What angle to hold your arm and your hand and your fingers and this and this and this. And there’s diagrams and there’s a very clear, obvious way of how you salute.

But there were officers that would just push the boundaries of the salute until their salute looks nothing like the salute in the pan. And they would get away with it because they’re a good off. They were a good officer. They were a good officer, so they would get away with it. I think that’s an interesting thing to understand, is some people put more focus on being the individual, being the captain, than they do on actually being good at their job. So be good at your job, and then you get kind of these privileges. And if you’re really good at your job, you get huge individuation and you can be like you can peacock or you can have as much ego as your brain can manage. You know that’s kind of that’s how I feel. And I know that when my ego gets bigger than my brain, God strikes me down. My God is not cruel to me. That’s not the right way to put it. But, my God, I. When I just get a little bit too greedy, it’s kind of its kind of op. It’s kind of overpowered because it’s kind of not fair in the sense that if it was like pure chaos, if you never knew, if you never got, if your God never strikes you down, if, like, nature never corrects your course, then the chance of you being on the right course is very low. You know, like nature or God, whatever how you want to look at it. The creative energies of the mother, the creative energies of the father, they’re going to strike you down. They’re going to smite you know, when you do the wrong thing, as a civilisation, as an individual.

So, yeah, it’s good to just keep your ego in check or whatever the issue is. Every. Every person’s got a different thing. Yeah. But being a captain, being a small crew leader is to be a junior leader.

The most important thing is that the men genuinely respect. Respect you. It’s never, ever going to work if the men don’t genuinely respect you. It does come down to gravitas. It does come down to genuine respect. You know, in Band of Brothers, there’s that famous scene, and I see it a lot of World War Two movies, and where they have that famous line where they say you salute the rank, not the man. You know, you salute the rank, not the man. It’s the rank. And we’re living in, excuse me, the situation we have that’s very roman, we’re more Germanic. That’s a very Roman sort of philosophy, in my opinion. Germanic philosophy is you salute the man.

And that’s why Germanics are a bit more barbarian, they’re a bit more disorderly.

But we have to recognise ourselves. Most Europeans are not pure Germanics. Most Europeans, I know some guys that are very rowdy. They’re very, you know, they’re not very Roman. You know, they’re not very. They’re barbarians. I know some guys that are just blond beasts, barbarians from the north. They’re just born out of time and they’re attracted to our movement and they’re all awesome, but they don’t want any rules, they don’t want any laws. They just they. But they are truly barbarians. But they’re White nationalists.

And then you’ve got kind of more nerdy types, very legalistic, and the Constitution’s got the right wording in it. That’s how we fix the problem. And they’re White nationalists as well, but they’re kind of more. They’re less Germanic in their essence, and more kind of maybe roman, more bureaucratic. So you kind of have these two spirits alive within a leader, within an organise, and within the men that you recruit.

So you need to be. You need to be conscious of that you need. The bigger you get, the more discipline you need.

So the early days, you don’t want to be over disciplined. That’s kind of what the point I’m getting at. I’ve seen a few groups start up and it’s like three guys, four guys, and the leader is like, just a bit too overbearing with this rule and that rule.

And it’s like, there’s like four of us, man. Like, come on, let’s just. Let’s try to get the ten guys. That’s kind of more important.

And then that guy’s like, no, I listened to this Tom saw stream, and he was saying, the purity is more important than, than size and that we have to have the most pure guys possible. So let’s. Unless, like, get really autistic and lost in the source the nitty-gritty of how the group should be run, you know, instead of kind of just get the ball moving and just kind of fix things as they sort of establish. Fix problems as they establish. So ultimately, whether you start small or start big, like, whether you start pure or not pure if you’re on the right path, like, I didn’t start very pure at the start of building my. I kind of just let in a lot of people. And almost all the people that I wasn’t really conscious about that. I wasn’t really consciously, like, evaluating them as having The Right Stuff. A lot of them left, almost all of them left.

So if you’re not pure, you’re going to lose people anyway.

So, yeah, start small and build up.

So this has been going for 2 hours now, hasn’t it? That’s a long time to just listen to me talk and answer questions. Yeah, 2 hours. Wow! I can just do some, like. I think that was meant to be a quick answer, wasn’t it? But I just got lost in the rant. I haven’t done a rant for a while. It’s therapeutic. Here’s an interesting question from bass Chungus. Any tips for or rants on the schizo maxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams and [laughter] Trumps right ear. Yeah, schizo maxing. I think it’s just important. I think it’s very, very important to people to be able to speak in symbols. I am very interested in all forms of communication. I’ve recently been learning some baby sign language because I find it fascinating to be able to talk in signs to my baby. And I want to teach all my kids sign language if I have the time.

I also want to teach them German and eventually some old Nordic language or something and try to, like, recycle, like Psyop or recycle the language of English into like this Nordo English because English is going to turn into pig English. It’s like, you can see how English is deteriorating, so we actually need to turn English into a different language. It all ties in with the civilisational mitosis. So I got this stuff going on in my mind, and then I’m also thinking about sign language just as, like, how awesome it is.

But, yeah, it’s very important for people to be able to speak in signs.

So you can call it, like, schizomaxing, but again, that carries that sort of negative connotation that it’s like an innate negative. And it is, if it’s untuned, you’ve got to tune your ability to view symbols and to study symbols. It’s very important. Yeah, but you do come across, like, schizophrenia. Posting is, it only comes across bad when you’re an amateur. It only comes across bad when you’re not. You got to be very fine tuned. Very, very fine tuned.

Because if you have that part of your mind open, most people don’t.

But if you have its a blessing and a curse if you have that part of your mind open and it’s not tuned. You’re just going to sound like a maniac! You’re just going to sound like an insane person. And other people with their mind open are going to listen to you, and it’s up to them whether they want to disagree with you or not, because your mind’s open, but it’ll never open. It’s not capable. That mind, that untuned mind, is not capable of using The Voice, getting the correct vibration to un, you know, unwoke the people that have got the brain virus. The jews have put them under a spell and it’s black magic, and we’ve got to get them out of that spell. They’re very clever linguistically, they’re very conniving linguistically. They know how to create spells, and it really does come back to that as a principle. Gaelic. Nord says, Thomas, have you ever read about Roman rituals? There’s one called evacuate. Evacuateo decorum, or diorum. Wouldn’t that be decorum?

Anyway, they basically invited foreign gods, or racial foreigners that they defeated in battle back to Rome, perhaps to increase their power levels. I believe they made a big mistake in inviting the jewish God back. Yeah, absolutely! I am aware of Roman and Greek rituals. They’re the most famous story on this exact ritual is Troy, which is kind of interesting because the Romans come from Troy, they come from the Trojans. The Romans are the Trojans.

So the yeah, the wooden horse is a form of deity that they brought back with them into the city gates, and it’s a metaphor for evoking enemy gods. When you bring enemy gods symbolism, whatever the power, just talking about the schizo maxing, you got to be able to read in symbols, you know. Did the Trojan Horse in the movie, Troy was a symbol? If you only ever watched that movie and never knew anything else, you might not have seen it as a symbol, you might have seen it just merely as a material wooden horse.

But if you’ve studied history outside of watching Hollywood movies, you would know that it’s a perfect allegory for things appear as a present, things appear as something that could bring us good grace or power or enrichment, and they turn out to actually be completely hostile. It turns out to be a facade for something extremely hostile and damaging, and that we should have an immune system that keeps out these things.

So, yeah, that’s a very important point.

I also think that the main difference between the Roman state of being was moving in a direction that ultimately changed their blood, and they weren’t the Roman principle. You know, I’ve said this many times when asked about the use of the motto blood and honour as our symbolism.

And I actually remember in the early days, really early days, before we used that as a motto. I actually went up to Jacob and I said to him, I said:

“We should have a motto because we’re just ideas, man.”

You got to imagine it’s just a dozen guys, two dozen guys, and you’re just hanging out in the backyard gym, and you’re like, we’re going to make it. We’re going to make an organise. We’re going to make a, like, we’ve just been hanging out, and we think we’re at the numbers now, where we can actually just launch a brand of an organise and we’ll start formalizing things. We’re kind of at that size where you start formalizing. You’re not just a bunch of guys, a bunch of in on a social club anymore. You’re actually starting to organise and create a subculture. And reinforce that subculture.

And so what you do is you get, like, you make up a flag. It’s like, this is one, that’s one of the first things you do you make up a flag. You’re like:

“Hey, this piece of cloth, this is us. This is our thing. This is our symbol. This is us. It’s just innate. It’s entirely innate.”

It’s one of those masculine things you can do is just pick a random thing with a bunch of other guys that you actually, you actually have a form of brotherhood with and so, but you pick some innate thing, or a mascot or an icon, or a symbol, or a rune or something, and you’re like, yep, this is us. And that’s one of the first things.

And one of the second things you do is things like chance slogans, whatever. Like, there’s got to be some very basic branding. There’s going to be some very basic. It’s not like a Freemason secret handshake, but some groups, I’m sure they do secret handshakes. Well, actually, that’s one of the things we did. Not a secret handshake, but we did the Roman handshake instead of a normal handshake. We just decided to do that just randomly. And how we actually came to the conversation about blood and honour was I said to Jacob, we need a motto. Like, we need something that we say. And Jacob was like:

“Yeah, hail Hitler!”

And I was like I think that might be a bit full on, to start with, I think and Jacob would just. He would walk into a room full of people that he knew it, that they were racist, and he would walk into the room and he would say, how’s it going, fellow racists? What’s going on? Klansmen? How’s he going? Klansmen?

Hello. Klansmen.

Hello, racist. Hail Hitler. Like, he would just introduce himself like that. Like, it was, it was. Now it’s kind of normal. People are kind of they understand it now, but back then we’ve come a long way. Five years ago, ten years ago, you know, Jacob, hers are walking in the room, and it’s like this is, like early days. Everyone’s just trading on eggshells on the racism. And he just walked in and said like, yep, hail Hitler. Hail Klansman. Stuff like this. So I said to Jacob, I don’t want to do hail Hitler as, like, a like, our standard thing that we say all the time. Like, at the end of training, we should say something. And he’s like:

“Yeah, yeah. Like, hell, Hitler.”

I’m like:

“No, I’m thinking more like, in Gladiator, we’re like, before they go into battle.”

This is a real conversation. I was like, Gladiator. I brought the Gladiator. I know. Gladiator two cocked. Yeah. We don’t have to talk about it, but Gladiator one, not cucked. Gladiator one, awesome! You know, obviously it’s cucked like 90, nineties style. Like they had to put a black slave in there and shit like that, but whatever. But, yeah. So I said, no. Before the battle, he says, strength and honour. They, like, shake hands, or they do, like, Roman handshake. Strength and honour. And we already do the Roman handshake, and we don’t do the Roman handshake because of Gladiator. But I don’t even think we got it from Gladiator. I think you got it more I just knew it was a Viking thing they did. I just knew it was like an ancient handshake. Obviously, I saw it in Gladiator because it’s obvious the Romans did that as well. They did the Roman salute. They did the Roman handshake.

But I think all Aryans did this. All Aryans. Aryan salute, Aryan handshake. You know, it’s the same thing to me.

But, yeah, I said like, strength and honour. That’s a good one. Like, I’m not saying let’s use strength and honour. But I’m saying something that sounds like that, like a sign off. We need to have a sign off as a group. And he was like, whoa, you wouldn’t do strength and honour because they’re fundamentally the same principle. They’re just at a material level, but blood and honour, they’re like inverse principles, or not inverse principles, but they’re principles that are, you know, two different ends of the same thing. You know what I’m talking about. Blood and honour verse. Strength and honour. I should wrote a poem tying into this, the reason why I picked blood and honour instead of strength and honour. Obviously, blood and honour is more in line with the Natsoc worldview. And it’s not from a movie or from Roman history. It’s from very recent history. It’s from very recent National Socialist ideology. And it is honouring the fallen of World War Two in doing that it’s honouring Hitler in doing that.

But obviously, it’s a more broader term than just saying, hail Hitler. It’s a more broader term that talks of a more philosophical worldview, a worldview being made of blood and of honour, the union, the marriage of those forces.

So it’s a second thing on that is that the Romans didn’t have a motto of blood and honour, and that’s why we should make it blood and honour, because the Romans don’t really exist anymore. The Roman Empire failed because they didn’t have blood and honour as their highest principle. They had strength and honour as that higher principle. So strength and honour can’t exist without blood. Strength and honour can’t exist if you know, you take slaves and you dilute yourself through these slaves. We can’t do what the Romans did.

So we need to have. We need to take, you know, Hitler says, in my country, clearly, we need to take that which works. You know, when you read a book you need to be able to get something out of it. You need to be able to take the knowledge and discard what isn’t fundamental to finishing your sculpture, which is your I, your stone like worldview. And so to me, that blend is very difficult to ascertain, the blend of Roman principles and Germanic principles. But things that are obvious, things that are striking for me, is taking their. The Romans had an attention to detail. They had an attention detail, and I think the Germans have already taken that to an extent. I don’t think the Germans, the modern day Germans, when I’m talking, when I say German, sometimes you got to understand, I’m not talking about German. I’m talking about Germanics as opposed to Germans.

I’m not talking about German as a 21st century political designation of a group of people that live in Germany that are of general descent. I’m talking about two archetypes. I’m talking about the Germanic Nordic barbarian, the blond beast, and I’m talking about the kind of Roman soldier, bureaucrat, aristocrat. That’s kind of what I’m archetype.

So they’re both archetypes, but it’s both very different. Archives. I think a modern day German is already a halfway point between these two principles. I don’t think I would consider myself a full barbarian, but I also wouldn’t consider myself a full kind of creature of these Roman machinations. I do think of myself as more free spirited. So, yeah.

Anyway, pause this stupid question here. Tom, if you saw a black woman being attacked, would you help her? It’s important to. When people ask those kind of questions, drift, Hamlet. When people ask those kind of questions, it’s important to pause and consider the motivation of the person answering, asking the question, why are they asking that question? What do they want to hear and what’s the truth? And is it necessary to explain that at the moment? Yeah. People just talking about active clubs in the chat. If there’s no other questions, I can go into active club for a little bit, although I think it’s been pretty broadly covered, especially answering that question before about how to start up an active club and those foundational phases, building the purity of it.

But, yeah, if there’s no other questions, I see there’s an 181 people in the chat, and that’s the most it has been the whole time. And there’s not really much else to cover. Yeah. Someone says, first time, thank you for your work and dedication. You’re one of our strongest leaders and an inspiration. That’s from Pavlov’s puppy and from wall. Now we’ve got. What do you think the next step after active club is? Well, that’s. Yeah, that is something that I can definitely go into briefly. I’ll practice my short answer. The next logical step after the active club is the active brand.

And I think that’s what Rob Rondo’s done really well in the US, that it is a brand. It’s beyond just one individual clique or one little club. It’s the brand. He’s built a brand, ..

And so the brand requires a staff leadership.

So when you build a brand, when you start when it’s not just like ten guys at a park, when you’ve got, say, five or six or ten different clubs, and they’re all got 5, 10, 20, 30, some of them maybe even 40, some of the bigger ones. You know, when you start looking at your membership not in the sort of single digits or in the dozens, you start looking at it in the hundreds, you have to evolve from focusing on the active club as a club, as a group of individual clubs. You have to consider it at a brand level or at a company level.

So that’s like from how you would break down that in a corporate structure is you would consider that they’re branches and that you have like a main company, a main body, and from a military, not that it’s a paramilitary organisation, but just purely to break down any sort of structure, what would be considered a company sized structure, you’re breaking it down into Platoons and sections.

And so you have to start considering who’s leading each section. You have to have some sort of top down staff command that control the brand as a whole.

So that’s kind of what we do with our EAM [European Australian Movement], NSN [National Socialist Network]. They’re brands. They’ve got a staying power, they’ve got a brand power. They’re not brands from a corporate sense in the way that our purpose isn’t to make money.

So you’ve got a brand like Nike. Obviously, its purpose is to make as much money as possible as Nike. That’s like a jewish version or just a corporate version, if that’s just your main principle.

But obviously our highest principle is not about corporate power. We don’t really care about the marketplace. We just acknowledge that the marketplace exists and that people need a market of some sort and it should be regulated fair and well and kind. Yeah, it’s not like our focus. It’s not what we’re really looking at. What we’re looking at is how do we save our people? How do we save our race?

So we’re building a brand. Yeah, it’s beyond just a little click of guys that know each other in person. It’s a national brand.

And so that requires national branding, it requires national leadership, whether that’s behind the scenes or in the open doesn’t really matter too much at that stage. And I guess that’s when you start going from a section or Platoon size to a company or battalion size. So it’s different kind of management you need to be considering at that stage. And we can study Mein Kampf quite well to understand how Hitler organised his men into different branches. And you can just study NS philosophy, NS history. And really, any history, history is very important. You can’t study Roman history without getting into the nitty-gritty of how a legion broke down and how Roman society functioned and how it was built and who built the roads and all this sort of stuff. It’s, or how did a phalanx or hippoplite. How did the Greeks organise their army? Or how did the Greeks organise their society? What were men’s duties and responsibilities?

So, yeah, when you’re growing to the next stage, you just have to consider, well, what are the foundational, historical, successful models that you built us that society has been built on? What were their inherent flaws? You have to consider what their inherent flaws were, where there was perhaps a lack of balance, or where there was perhaps too much balance with things that we shouldn’t have.

And then, yeah, like you as a leader, whether that’s of ten men, or a hundred, or a thousand, then decide or try to guide that ten, or a hundred or thousand men on their destiny.

So, yeah, you’re gonna get pretty good at surfing the Kali yuga, so to speak. Yeah. Someone says, is there a group near Parr a matter a? Yeah, we’ve got groups everywhere in Australia. Near is the subjective term. Is it ten minutes away? Not really, no. But have we got guys in that general region? Yes, we’ve got guys in every region, every town, every city, every suburb, or almost every suburb.

So, yeah, and if we don’t, we have one in the suburb next to you, and if it’s not in the suburb next to you, it’s two over.

So, yeah, as guys join in the early days, they’ll be like, oh the closest member to me is a whole suburb away.

But then in the future, you’re going to be surrounded by too many Nazis. You’re going to be sick of fucking. How many Nazis live near you? You know, you’re going to be like, where’s the closest non-Nazi to me? Because every single person near you will be a Nazi. And that’s just what happens along our timelines.

So if you just stick around, you just. There are guys that are isolated. They join. They’re isolated in the middle of nowhere, or they’re in Parramatta you know, it’s 40 minutes training. That’s just too far. It’s too far for now, sure, but just stick with it. And then maybe in six months time, or a year’s time or 18 months time, you just have got to have that consistency and that faith that there’s going to be more guys joining up in your local area than the one you have to drive to. And then during the week you can just train with those guys. And then only once a week do you train with the guys in that broader general area because there’s just too much to drive there every day or every second day or however often you want to train. Localism becomes a key part of it.

But yeah, in the early days, you’ve got to be committed. You got to show even more commitment to be the Spearhead, to be the guy that you’ve got to consider yourself. Whatever suburb you’re in, whatever town you’re in, if you’re the only one, you’ve got to consider yourself that. You’ve got to be better than the next guy that joins. Not so you can be better than him, but you would be better than him in the sense that when he joins, he’s like:

“Oh, wow, this guy has obviously been doing the worldview. They’re not joining in like the guy that joined before them, the guy that’s their rep or that’s in charge of their area is like, you wouldn’t want to join an organise where the guy that’s the ref, your area is not good, not in a good position, not in a good place.”

So if you’re joining early and you’re the only guy in your area and you’re not in a good place, it just use it as motivation. Just be like when another guy in the suburb gets recruited they can look at me and be like:

“Oh, fuck, this guy’s been around two years. Holy shit! It was just him by himself for two years and fucking, he’s a beast. Look at him. Shit!”

You know, you kind of want that going through his head. Not:

“Fuck, this guy’s a loser. No wonder he’s been around here two years and hasn’t had any friends.”

You know what I mean?

So it’s like, what kind of man are you? What level are you at when the first guy that gets recruited in your area or the second guy or the third? Well, you’re obviously the first guy, but after you.

So you have to consider that.

And then that decides your importance and your role and you’re in a way, in a kind of Viking way. Your fame, your gravitas, your clout. You know, you don’t have to be a clout chaser, but it is a motivation of all men. Not an entire motivation, but not no motivation. It’s somewhere in there. Some men maybe more than others, but you gotta have a healthy ego. Healthy. Am I just gonna be a contributor to this? Am I just gonna be a lukewarm, a warm body? Am I gonna come down, get involved with this organisation and just I’ll just do the bare minimum and just. I’ll do my duty, you know, for the White race. Like, no passion, no drive. You know, you have to consider that when you’re getting involved with the group. Where’s your passion? Where’s your drive? How much do you believe in it? How much do you care? And are you going to put that forward? Are you going to pay that forward? Are you going to pay that energy forward? And is that collective will and that collective drive going to move this movement to success? Or are you just going to come just plod along and carry yourself where it needs to be? And you see that?

You see guys, they don’t really have much drive. They’re there. They’re doing better than nothing, but they don’t really have the drive. We need drive. We need men that are driven. Need men that are really driven. Not to the point of destruction, not to the point where you burn out, obviously, we see a lot of young guys really driven.

And then you watch them start to burn out, and you watch them just overdo it, overdo it, overdo it.

And then you try to have these conversations like, hey you need to take a day off. You know, they’re like:

“No, no, no!”

And then you’re like, oh. And then something happens in their life, and then it’s like all this pressure hits them all at once, and they’re like:

“Oh, I don’t think I can do this anymore.”

They kind of like, explode. Not explode, but, you know what I mean? They kind of like, burn out. Like a quick burnout, as opposed to just telling them, hey, just, yeah, you’re doing well. You’re growing, you know, everything’s going fine, everything’s good, you’re getting your life together. Everything’s coming together your contribution for this, what it’s doing, you know, we’re succeeding with people like you know, don’t be so hard on yourself. You know, you kind of have that conversation. You know, you’re doing well. You don’t need to do any more. We’re happy with what you’re doing right now. Just maintain that if you need to take a little bit of a step back so you got some breathing space, do that you know.

So human management is very important when you’re running a little club. You have to be a good reader of people’s character. You have to understand people. You have to be able to empathize with people, you do have to really understand the men that they’re around you, and you also have to understand your own limitations. That’s important as well. You need to understand where there’s a certain limit and you’ve reached a limit, and you’re just not physically capable at this stage of having more responsibility. You’re kind of at your physical limit. You’ll burn out if you get more responsibility lumped on you. And for some people, that’s just like the bare minimum. For some people, the bare minimum is just too much responsibility. Like the idea of just being healthy, in shape, a little bit of exercise every week, coming to the occasional activism. For some people, that’s too much. That’s too much. They have to be unfit, they have to be overweight, they have to be irresponsible with their social life, or their drinking life, or whatever it is. They’re partying life. They have to be not at the activism. There are people that are like this, and that’s difficult. That’s difficult to manage. That’s very difficult to manage when there are people that are almost like, specifically self destructive.

And so you have to make an analysis as to whether you’re going to maintain this person as a member of your organisation, or whether you’re not going to maintain them. And that’s hard to swing that axis. Hard. That’s a very difficult thing to have power over, the power to exclude and to be able to make the right decision so that will get tested for everyone. And it’s not just the leaders. Even without saying anything to the leader, even without saying anything to leader, everyone has an energy, and everyone can read, they’re paying attention to everyone else’s energy. And when the energy is off, when it’s wrong, sometimes, even without saying stuff, there is just an energy where there’s a groupthink, there’s a hive mind, and people go, mmm, nah, I don’t have confidence in this person, or I don’t have confidence in this person to this capacity. I’d have confidence with them as a member, but not as a leader, or I’d have confidence with them as an associate, but not as a member. And that’s very important. Yeah. Yes, many such cases, but every, it’s, every organisation is going to be different the exact way that I do it. Is not necessarily the best way, it’s just the way that I’m doing it. There’ll be groups that will do it differently and maybe their ways are better. And that will prove in enough time, given enough time, that will prove, it’s proven by the quality of men that you have, not just right now, but in the future.

And so the more time that goes on, the better quality of men that you have around you, the better quality of families that you have around you. And built on that principle of honour, built on that principle of nobility, not just necessarily about surrounding yourself with rich people or powerful people in the now, because those people aren’t as important as good, honourable, loyal people are. Into the indefinite, you can surround yourself, you can be a socialite and surround yourself with liberal, democratic elitists. There’s an elite within the Liberal democracy, and there’s a lot of people doing that. They’re kind of chasing that dream. Just in wider society that is obviously the archetype or the goddess of wider society, like wider liberal democracy is really obsessed and really devoted to these false idols. You know, they’re sort of one of the worst examples that I’m talking about is the Kardashian effect or the Kardashian idol. There are people that sort of idolize this lifestyle, this reality TV lifestyle of these fake billionaires, and they’re just pieces of shit, basically. And society is just caught up with this the God of luck is the God of the orgy, is the God of liberalism. You know, is the yeah, you know, where I’m going with this. They kind of worship that as their primary God. Yeah, much to consider. Much to consider. Jaw once stated, any White nationalist movement that succeeds in getting power would be crushed by the US government. So our race depends on American White nationalists seizing power. Do you agree? I’ve tried activism here in Michigan and it sometimes feels like an uphill battle. And we’re failing our kin across the West.

Yeah, I mean, the United States is the new Rome, and a lot of the power sits there and rests there. And that is like the fundamental political battleground. I believe that it’s going to be a chain reaction, that it’s not just simply that the US has to rise up and then the rest of us can. Although we discussed on stream recently with the Trump situation and the idea that when America sneezes, the rest of the world blows its nose. There is a lot of people, there’s a lot of eyes on America. There’s a lot of eyes on Trump as I said before, it is the dominant political culture across the West. So.

But in saying that doesn’t mean that as soon as they do something, it gives us permission, as. It’s just as likely. It’s just as, like, what I’m trying to say is this. It’s just as likely that a country will do something that needs to be done and that will inspire Americans. It’s just as likely as that to happen as then America makes it the norm, and then the other half of Western civilisation downstream of that decision, also make the correct decision. So, hypothetically, it wouldn’t be America to first do proper deportations. America might talk about it, like, Trump might talk about it, but then it could be some random country in Europe that’s the it could be, I don’t know, it could be Italy, it could be Greece, it could be Germany, it could be Poland. They could do a large deportation, and then that could inspire the Americans to then do it. And then it becomes the norm in, say, Canada or Britain or Australia, because America’s done it now.

So I think that’s a likely relationship. Yeah. Obviously, we’re all looking at each other across the world like:

“Hey, let’s fix this!”

Yeah. Pablo’s Papi says:

“Have you studied psychologically, psychological behavioural influence, suggestion, and persuasion as a political propaganda tool? I think it is very valuable, considering we don’t use it like the jews to, but fight fire with fire, so to speak.”

Yeah, I mean, I have a basic understanding of psychology, of Jungian and Freudian psychology. I understand emotions and behaviour well in the sense that I can convert that into a political understanding. Should the average person do this? Yes, I think the average person should. Should just consider more, to notice more, to think more about what’s happening around them at a microcosm and at a macrocosm, to analyze daily interactions, to analyze just what you’re encountered with in life. And in doing so, you will learn much more than doing a psychology degree.

But if you did both, and I’m not saying for people to do psychology degrees, but you can open the textbook, you can read shit online, you can watch YouTube videos, you can do research into basic human psychology and behavioural psychology, even animal psychology. You know, I like watching the studies on primates. I like watching the studies on them, because you can extrapolate a lot. You can see what’s primal. And that’s primal is there’s got to be a balance between primal instincts and higher instincts. And they have to work together. So understanding what drives people’s primal instincts can help you develop political strategy, and not from a false perspective, but by truly understanding people at a primal level.

So if you understand White people at a primal level, you’ll understand that White people are anxious at the moment. They’re very anxious at a primal level. There is an anxiety and fear in every White person about a future, consciously or subconsciously. And it is displayed in Leftism. It’s false. The false action, the false path of the anxiety of being anxious about the future is all these Leftists focusing on the environment and becoming like eco communists. You know, they fear that there’s something wrong. They’re kind of just slightly misguided.

And so the jews understand it and that’s why they create political pathways for feelings that they can understand in order to redirect them and misdirect them. So yes, we need to understand the same primal instincts in order to redirect people into actually fixing the problem and meeting those primal needs when we’re not. Because women, as I said before earlier in the stream, women need a healthy environment. This is very important. This is very fundamental. Women need a healthy environment. We need to create a healthy environment for women and children. That’s what we have to do. We can handle things worse. We’re men. That’s what we’re built for. We’re built to go outside the wall. We’re built to go outside the wall. We’re actually built for the outside wall.

We’re not actually built to just stay in the Garden of Eden. So, and we just have to be. So in saying that, I’m a little off topic here, I’ll try and draw back the question. Psychology. Psychology, yeah. To, to create that healthy environment for people to stop female anxiety. You know, our birth rates, low anxiety.

Okay, so it’s not what you call. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter that they’re anxious. It doesn’t matter they’ve got anxiety. The issue is that we’re not replacing ourselves because they’re not healthy. The masses are not healthy because they’re being poisoned by jews. So we are the honest men that are assessing the situation. We’ve sat down, we’ve assessed the situation that all these fundamental issues in society can be resolved if these people or the majority of these issues can be resolved just purely by creating a healthy environment.

And then we can start isolating toxic things. We can start when everything’s healthy. Then we can start looking at genes that are retoxifying the situation or genes that are trying to not necessarily revert back to a different new, that could be a potentially better direction, but toxic genes that are trying to revert into a lower form, revert into destructive energy. And how do we stay on top of that? And it’s not always bye. Putting it out, putting out, putting out. Sometimes it’s being honest and addressing it. You know, for example, you could smash the communists, you could smash the communists, you could smash all their talking points. You could you go full, you know, fuck the environment. You know what I mean? Like the communists, obviously there’s a cross section of women that identify as communists or identify with this kind of Lefty politics because they genuinely think that the world is going to end. They genuinely think that we’re destroying the world now we are polluting the world. We are. And I’m an environmentalist and so obviously, yeah, crush communism.

You know, if I’m the man holding the sword and I get put in the position, I’ll have the strength to swing it on the communists. The ideology needs to be smashed. The ideology needs to be destroyed. It needs to be completely eradicated. But it stemmed from a fundamental flaw and that flaw actually needs to be fixed. You can’t just remove an ideology from society. You can’t just cancel it, censor it, like how the Left are trying to get rid of Nazis. Well, they’re trying to get rid of Nazis because they’re trying to get rid of White people. And Nazis are the things that keep White people alive because Nazi or Aryan ideology is the ideology that has kept White people alive. It’s the only thing that’s kept White people alive through every ultimate challenge that we faced.

So that’s why they’re trying to get rid of us. Yeah, yeah.

And so we need to understand what motivates people and how to fix the fundamental issues. Why are people depressed? Why are people anxious? Why are people. This needs to be fixed, ultimately, not just like:

“Oh, here’s some drugs to make it not noticeable.”

Yeah. People talking about boxing in the chat, how to join a boxing gym. That’s all pretty, pretty obvious. Someone asking you about Hitler’s vegetarianism. Not something I want to do a big topic on for this stream, but basically it was just world renouncing. So I’ve covered it before, the Hitler vegetarianism. He went world renouncing for a little bit for a couple years. He just wanted to try to get to the next level and see if he could see something there, see something beyond time there, I can’t tell you whether it worked for him or whether it didn’t.

But ultimately the war went the way it did and what happened happened. So it’s just, that’s just a part of the story. That’s not me. I can understand why people need to keep bringing it up. I wasn’t going to flesh this out, but if it is important principle when creating doctrine, the Muslims, for example, because there’s so much that Muhammad left and obviously the Christians with Jesus, there’s so many books, there’s so many hadiths, there’s so many accounts.

And then you’ve got to have accounts of Nicaea. You’ve got to work out what you’re keeping in and what you’re taking out, what’s important, what’s not important and what should be overlooked or what should be more explained.

And so there would be people that would want to pretend like Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian because it doesn’t suit their current agenda, which is we’re all eating as much meat as we can. That’s basically everyone within White nationalism, except a few guys that are reverting to that part. There’s people that maybe are going a bit too far down the Hare Krishna sort of stuff and they get involved with vegetarianism. And it is what it is. It leads to where it leads to, but maybe that’s just what they need at the time. I don’t know. It is what it is, but that’s politically inconvenient at the moment.

But I don’t think we should overlook that. I don’t think we need to be afraid of that.

The reality is that he was a mystic and that he was exploring time. He was exploring his own destiny, his own fate. He had achieved so much by that point.

And then obviously we started to see him making other decisions. And the Muslims will sit there with Muhammad and they’ll say:

“Well, if there’s a clash where Hitler basically says, ‘You should eat meat in Mein Kampf’, and you should eat food closest to the most natural source of it. So the least processed, the better. The more it’s in its first form, is what we’re meant to be eating. That’s what Hitler’s philosophy was on diet closest to the first form.”

And basically, the more you need to process something, the worse it is for you long term.

Then you’ve got obviously a vegetarian phase. And what the Muslims do is they say:

“Well, whatever was said second, because more of God’s knowledge was, was given to Muhammad later on.”

So if he’s contradicted himself between what he said when he was young and what he said when he’s old, take the older, and I’m not going to make that call. That’s something that’s quite well known within theology, that when you have conflicting statements, you take the statement that was made when the person was older and wiser as a general rule.

But in Christianity, obviously, it doesn’t work like that at all! It’s just a game of mental gymnastics. When you’ve got something that clashes and then you’ve got an issue of translation and you have to consult some of its biggest Hebrew and, yeah, then you can maybe formulate an argument as to what was meant in that exact scenario.

And obviously then there’s schisms in different churches because, well, one side thinks it means this and one side thinks it means that, but ultimately, you know, it all works out. It all works out because, you know, there’ll be an understanding of Hitler and there’ll be an understanding of Hitler’s National Socialism, and there’ll be an understanding of blending that with what we need to do going forward into the future. That will be the most successful model. And if there’s schisms that are slightly less successful, but still White nationalist National Socialists, and they’re a slightly different version of it with a slightly different interpretation, well, if it leads to our victory, then that’s what. That’s ultimately a good thing. Someone says. Thoughts on Stu Peters? I like what I’ve seen. I think he’s an interesting character. He seems to be pretty red pilled on everything. I don’t have anything negative to say about them. I haven’t seen anything bad about them. They seem like they know what they’re doing. I haven’t followed their whole journey, but, yeah, it’s awesome to see people like that come out of the woodwork. Yeah. People just asking about water filters. What water filter? I use. Yeah.

A lot of people talking about vegetarianism, meat, diet, stuff like this. Yeah, I don’t really want to talk about that stuff. I think there’s a lot of streams talking about diethyde. I wasn’t going to go into that in terms of my talking points. I’ll just quickly go through what I had planned and I think that would. It was mostly just about who’s going to solve the problem and how we get there. I said Messiah Versa.

But the most important thing that I want you to take away from the stream is everyone has a God. Everyone’s working towards a God, everyone’s actually contributing to the building of a goddess, their own God, the God that’s in their image and that they are in the image of as just a reflection. Then if you want that messiah to come, if you want that Caesar to come, you have to create it, you have to contribute to it, you have to build it. That’s very important through your work.

The other thing was about women and children needing to be able to be in a healthy environment where they can make their own mistakes.

So we need to create a healthy environment for them. We can’t blame what’s innate to naivety and to not having what women lack and what children lack in forward thinking, logic, and reason. What they lack is they usually gain in a kind of personal intuition. So children have intuition. Women have a lot of intuition. Men do as well, of course. But we are more likely to confuse ourselves from our intuition.

But, yeah, women need to not, like, full anarchy, but some sort of, like. It’s like the opposite of an archo tyranny. It’s like this relationship between authority and freedom. It can’t be full freedom, but it can’t be full authority. We have to blend freedom and authority together.

A lot of people go, oh, freedom freed. Our freedoms are under attack. It’s like, yeah, yeah, our power is under attack. You know, it’s like, it’s not just our freedom that’s under attack, it’s our power. We used to have power. We’re losing our power, and you’re people are conflating their freedom with their power. But I understand that at a deeper level, they’re similar terms. A lot of our power comes from freedom and our freedom comes from our power.

So there is a relationship between freedom and power, which kind of that would be a slogan. That would be a political branding slogan, like White power and White freedom. You know what I mean? It’d be like power and freedom for the Whiteman. That suits both narratives, in my opinion, because there’s a lot of people that they just kind of want to be left alone. They’re unhappy. They just want to be left alone. They don’t hate anyone. They just want freedom. And they don’t have to think about trannies and refugees, basically. They just want to go back to, like, 1980s, whatever it is.

And then the other motivation is people that, like, we need fucking, you know, total power.

So, yeah, someone says:

“How would you explain the worldview to a normie?”

Geez, why I did it. There’s 50 ways of doing it. It just depends what comes to mind at the time. It’s more important, how would you explain it to a normie or neutral, someone that’s politically neutral, someone that’s not awake, someone that’s not aware of what’s happening, they’re not noticing.

So if you come at it from that angle, then consider that you need to get them asking the right questions. You need to get them to notice what you notice. So however that works, whatever the dynamic is, if it’s your father, if it’s your mother, if it’s your girlfriend, if it’s a younger sibling or an older sibling, someone in your personal life that you’re trying to red pill, then you have to consider what will get them noticing, what will get them noticing, what will make you know, what’s a threat to their existence that they would, they would pick up on.

So you have to see it that way.

And a lot of people, it’s gonna be very hard to wake them up, because when you consider that question, a lot of people, they only consider threats to their materialism. They only really consider threats to the comfort of their life. So those people, it’s not that it’s not worth waking them up, but if they’re not passionate people, if they’re not passionate and principled people, yeah, you just have to consider that sometimes. Just slogans and symbols and just power, power for power sake, because they’re never going to really respect it. They’re never gonna. Some people are just never gonna understand it, they’re never gonna respect it.

But what they will respect is power for power’s sake. They’ll just respect strength.

So whatever argument you’re making come from a position of strength. Yeah, that’s an equally important principle to not just making the right argument, but making the right argument from a position of strength. Yeah, I hope that helps. Alright, well, thank you for joining me. It’s been almost 3 hours. That’s way too long. Have a nice day. Blood and honour. Hail Hitler!

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volkhero
3 days ago
Love and gratitude from the States.
Heil Hitler and 14 Words.

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
Great Work Thomas.. we appreciate you. wfp

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
fake n gay. Holocaust never happened

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
based

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Yes your spot on o/. sorry im quite new to your content to be honest

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MajesticCasual
1 hour ago
I’d say Thomas Sewell,Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell, Warren Balogh [Warstrike with Eric Striker], Weston Paradigm, Just Joe Radio, White Rabbit Radio, Mark Collett etc.. Also Nordic Frontier lads [recently labeled terrorists byt the Judeo-terrorists who occupy the USA gov state dept, so they were banned but they are wholesome, non-violent,patriots and can still be found on Rumble temporary and Telegram, or maybe their website directly]
https://t.me/NordicFrontierPodcast
https://t.me/nordicresistancemovement
https://nordicresistancemovement.org
I’m sure I’m missing some but I work outside 6-7 days a week so I put all these guys streams on rotation and don’t disagree much with any of them. They all have their own style so it’s a well-rounded lineup if you have headphones on 50-60 hours a week.

@Mike
2 days ago
Tom, I’m watching a couple of days late in Canada so you probably won’t read this, but this is great content, there isn’t enough commentary on life through a natsoc lense and i want to see and hear more.

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Nightcrawler
15 hours ago
Hey, I’m from the east coast of Canada. O/
Good to see other Canadians here.

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Absolutley. thanks o/

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Harry Holler
3 days ago
Jesus tells you to spread the other cheek

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@Lebensraum
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SkoolafIsh
3 days ago
Walther – I appreciate that you are always so consistently and comprehensively ahead of the curve. Tremendous channel – still working through to download.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
the main thing people need too do is stop eating the poisoned commercial foods and drinking fluoride water…eat clean it will change your life

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Wise.

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
lol

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The Governess
3 days ago
the magic is so real, watching normies do mental gymnastics around the JQ is just amazing. most normies don’t even know a jew or has knowingly met one before but will defend them to the death it seems

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Karl Hakenkreuz
3 days ago
It’s the holocaust conspiracy theory

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@Gullaldr
3 days ago
Isn’t kind of ironic Buddhism is actually an Aryan religion and is categorized as Eastern whilst the semitic religions are viewed as Western, it’s an inversion

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
The Doctrine of Awakening is not the same as Buddhism. Read more.

Muh Fashy Bookshelf
2 days ago
Tom, Hitler was a Catholic. Catholicism is technically a European religion.

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Fancy
2 days ago
DAY OF THE ROPE IS COMING

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@Moonman
3 days ago
o/

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@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE
thank you. it’s an honor. he does the heavy lifting. best, Penelope

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@Esau
3 days ago
Active Club here in Canada is growing. We have big plans

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Hobo TV
3 days ago(edited)
this is good, but I’m sad I’m at the age that I’m probably not going to be accepted
need an organization for tribe and train that accepts those of us in the 40 years range. DM me on telegram if you can help.

Callaghan
3 days ago
WHITE POWER CHAPTERS are popping up everywhere

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Thanks o/

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@sparkofspirit
3 days ago
thanks thomas o/

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𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
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@DOLO
ahh man. he should hve one even if to just take questions. I know he’s not interested in being a pro streamer, but getting a few extra bucks can always be thrown towards his org’s activities

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
I can tell your a great speaker and know how to be an authority etc. Ive been researching Psy-Ops alot lately like CIA/RAND documents and stuff. very interesting.

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
the Jbolshevik communists took over America 1913 then used the power of the dollar too spread communism world wide

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𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
Hence why the (((gov))) and (((ASIO))) is terrified of your organization Thomas

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Have you studied psychological behavioral influence, suggestion and persuasion as a political/propaganda tool? I think it is very valuable, considering we dont use it like the jews do but fight fire with fore so to speak.

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@Esau
3 days ago

@drifthamlet
I could even see him being a leader of something like a World Aryan Congress to combat the World Jewish Congress \o

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
if we cant take over or remove the corrupt system politically that does not leave many other choices.

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@drifthamlet
3 days ago

@Esau
Tom has the potential to be Australia’s Hitler

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
Hello/ Tommy first time Catching you Live

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PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
First time chatter. Thank you for all your work and dedication. You are one of our strongest leaders and an inspiration o/

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SkoolafIsh
3 days ago
Hello Pavlov – I am just catching up on this terrific replay myself

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@Esau
3 days ago
I wish we had a Thomas Sewell clone here in Canada. Our NS scene is utterly lacking.

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Love & Division
3 days ago

@HarryHoller
Practically speaking that’s true. The God of the Jews is Satan

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@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Great points all.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
I think Trump only cares about himself, I don’t think he is loyal to anyone, just controlled to a significant extent.

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AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago
Trump has been an owned asset since his 1990s bankruptcy. The banks’ (jewish) lawyer said it plainly: “We made the decision that he would be worth more to us alive than dead…dead meaning in bankruptcy. We don’t want him to be a bankruptcy, we want him out in the world selling these assets for us”

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Dillinger
3 days ago
Well Trump’s family are jews now, so he is ostensibly a jew himself; since his children haven’t married Gentiles

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@TaderWaffen
Heard miriam adelson wants a ‘book of trump’ put in the bible. She can afford to have it done. lol

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
If you’ve read classical Greek philosophy, you realize they were dealing with the same shit as now. Plato’s popular work is literally called The Republic.

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
External conditions are the output of an internal chemistry. Plato was smarter than you as yet know. Pearls —> swine.

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@TaderWaffen
3 days ago
without holywood and the media trump would be just another real estate mogul

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@xero
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
I think he already fucked off back to his Hasan piker stream

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Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@ScottRousell
Plenty of side show entertainment channels you can go check out

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Dillinger
3 days ago
It’s good that Tom’s addressing these topics

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@CampsLindburgh
3 days ago
gov’t owes jews money

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Logos
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
do you think the hit on Trump was genuine or staged fake and ghay? or somewhat both

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Boys will be boys.

Operation Werewolf
3 days ago
we are living through the greatest selection event in 1000 years. those that survive this generation will be worthy of being called Aryan. will will loose all of our dysgenic waste. see you on the other side boys

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Time is your brain’s explanation for fear. Release fear to “release time”.

@jbc77
3 days ago
Great discussion Thomas. Wishing you the best from the U.S

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The Governess
3 days ago
some can’t learn anything without making mistakes, not everyone learns from others mistakes

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Nature is at scale. Lessons / morality can be learned by observing other parts of nature interacting. What happens to the bug can happy to you. There are laws of nature.

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
It could be more accurate to say nature has an Order rather than laws. Man makes laws. Order makes man (through nature).

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@Gullaldr
3 days ago
Wow, What a synchronicity, I just finished watching your Elijah Schaffer interview and now I see you’re live here, Thank you for all you do Thomas and much love and well wishes from here in northern Sweden 14

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Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Paganism is the witnessing of the divine force in nature playing out through all of its parts. There’s a reason the old religions believed this because we constantly lived in nature observing it. Modernity has separated us from nature, so it’s hard to have these experiences and relate

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@xero
3 days ago
This should be an interesting one, Toms got based takes on religious concepts

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
By what standard do you call yourself Aryan? Have you considered all history is myth, rather than “reality”?

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Thomas Sewell
2 days ago
you make no sense.

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
Thank you for your response. I will clarify that Aryan is a term that should be used for more than just genetics. There is a certain inner character which must be proven before the bestowment of title

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White Community
2 days ago
good analysis
Jewish god and Aryan god
Aryans really need to study and understand Jews in order to free themselves

@Jim
3 days ago
Somebody pls inform Tom that Stalin wasn’t Russian, Jugashvili “Stalin” wasn’t even White

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Thomas Sewell
2 days ago
I know, the point still stands.

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@Jim
2 days ago
Thanks. BTW, overall, very inspirational high-octane stuff, thank you.

White_Wolf
3 days ago
Rabbi Yeshuah is no god of White men either.

Reclaim
3 days ago
Tom has so much wisdom for being a relatively young man o/

Hobo TV
3 days ago
Hail total White Victory!

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
How do you expect that to happen? You are outnumbered.

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Hobo TV
1 day ago
We will show you. soon.

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Matt Hammond
3 days ago
I had to put my serious hat on for this.

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@Esau
no, not tonight

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
o/

Vivian
3 days ago
tanklin, stack, then nnr o/ see ya

Callaghan
3 days ago
Devon Stack after party at Nicks

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
\o

@Esau
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
You going live tonight, brother?

Doomsayer
3 days ago
o/

Callaghan
3 days ago

@Esau
WHITE POWER

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Prove it with intelligence rather than intensity.

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Callaghan
3 days ago
0/

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
The symbol of the Aryan Elite is the mark of immobility, the Swastika.

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
you’re very kind. lovely, thanks so much. P.

@david_smith
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
chlorine is bad for soil life, so best avoided or let it evaporate before watering plants

@Esau
3 days ago
Blood and Honor. Heil Tom. Heil

@Aryanity

Kal
3 days ago
0/

@PaganBear
3 days ago
o/

WFP!
3 days ago
Heil

Karl Hakenkreuz
3 days ago
Thanks Tom o/

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@david_smith
I do on homegrown veggies.

DOLO
3 days ago
o/

@Azroc
3 days ago
cya

WFP!
3 days ago

@ssanwaerter
3 days ago
0/

JQRcode
3 days ago
O/

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
o/

@Dangbot
3 days ago
seeya

@david_smith
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
I doubt it would be a problem, use rainwater if you can.

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Southernfryd
this is what I was getting at with the psych/influence stuff. There are certain techniques for different types of people and situations

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
I’m also looking for info if flouride accumulates in vegetables & meat via town water

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
Power brings freedom too

Callaghan
3 days ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NSG5gV3Prhgu

Vivian
3 days ago
very well said

@david_smith
3 days ago
rational centrism

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
“politically applied biology”

@Southernfryd
3 days ago
Tom how would explain the worldview to a normie

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Very good question here.

Callaghan
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
Huge support on Marks show

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
I haven’t turned up anything on entropy itself nor his telegram. Will check rumble too

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
chicken fish steak veggies rice and fruits..stop eating sugar

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

@david_smith
i bet he advanced to the raw meat carnivore diet but didnt announce it

@david_smith
3 days ago
Being a vegetarian creates more gas

Saxon Dawn
3 days ago
Someone mentioned joining an AC in Michigan. The FRM has an AC in Michigan The Sons of Hengist we are recruiting reach out to me if your interested. We have AC’s around the country.

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
many thanks, P.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@DawnBrowning
i distill

Dawn Browning
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
What water filter do you use?

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@PenelopeMaynard7
I don’t think so, but i’ll check entropy itself and his telegram and see if there’s a link there. just a min

@david_smith
3 days ago
White people are the primary force fixing the environment

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
…And the primary force behind grievous loss of life in the whole civilized world. Think about it.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
You are a gay anti-White.

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Who Said That?
2 days ago
The environment can’t be fixed. Work on your self, gayboy.

@david_smith
3 days ago
We? got a pajeet or Chinaman in your pocket?

@PenelopeMaynard7
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
salient question, thanks for asking. I’d love to know. best, Penelope

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
Im not promoting being manipulative in a bad way of course, but some people need tricked into doing whats right for them

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
You have potential.

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@david_smith
3 days ago
Anxiety = thinking about the future

@Hierophant
3 days ago
the parts of your brain responsible for anxiety also light up with thankfulness. Philippians 4:6-7 talks about this

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Excellent reference. The passage only gets better after this too. Don’t settle for mere belief and faith. Pursue understanding.

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Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
whats your thoughts on stew peters? he was going ham for a while…

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
in msm? the ex-dailywire negress probably

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@Mr_White_Tuber

DOLO
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
I don’t think so.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
who does everyone consider the main person outing the subversive juws right now in msm??

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
does Thomas have an entropy or something chat?

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
aye the fightin risih are rising

The Pork Report
3 days ago
Yes, Ireland

@Esau
3 days ago
^

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
dasjuden is turning American into a third world shithole by flooding us with millions shitskins

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago
nothing changes until the fed Res is taken from their greedy rubbing hands

@ssanwaerter
3 days ago
What was the deal with Hitler’s vegetarianism? i can understand the sympathy for animals and was myself a vegetarian for about a year, But it seems like something impractical for a society at large. HH.

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Frederick the Hate
3 days ago
He wasn’t a vegetarian for just ethical reasons or pity for animals. He believed there were health benefits to a vegetarian diet. He, of course, also did not impose his diet on the nation… lol. HH

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Who Said That?
3 days ago
Vegetarianism is a form of Ascetic practice common among monks. This is more likely than the alternative of shortage of meat. Most likely it was a personal sacrifice he made for a specific purpose.

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
yea good point. you only have one brain and its delicate. Train defensive movement, big time. Mike Tyson was the best at it, once you get the basics down in the gym study his drills and fights

@Wolnir

Whiteflower
3 days ago
:shushing:

Whiteflower
3 days ago
^^

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolloms
haha

@Esau
3 days ago

@Vardhan945
I agree that the US is the hub of ZOG especially militarily but our revolution needs to be a global aryan revolution so that the jews don’t create an intra-NATO war to stamp out the revolution.

Wolloms
3 days ago

@KiowaRenegade
Yeah im sure biden was out boxing several times a week….

Wolloms
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Its a good skill, and its fun. Your best bet is a gym, once a week with a AC is good but not really enough to develop skills in it.

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolnir
you can train but taking constant blows too your head will make you slow someday…look at our leader biden brain dead head

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i have wasted years of dedication scribbling on walls…i am ready to use the same determination into something more productive

Whiteflower
3 days ago
what a time to be alive

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Find an mma gym

Wolnir
3 days ago
I want to fight it feels good

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Wolnir
go to the range instead

DOLO
3 days ago

@Wolnir
Join a gym

Wolnir
3 days ago
if i dont have a nat soc to teach me boxing whats the best way to learn

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
you are correct sir again

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i am always keen for a trek…nowhere within sydney is too far for me, thanks

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
when your org is big, and everywhere, that’s when it starts to threaten jewish power

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
^fire

@Thad88
3 days ago
NSN Darwin

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Vardhan945
its not a U.S. Gov and yes you are correct. They use the FiB to infiltrate and make up crimes on any group that tries too collectivize

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
i am messaging the bot now…thanks thomas and thad

Whiteflower
3 days ago
nice

@Thad88
3 days ago
on telegram as well

@Vardhan945
3 days ago
Joel once stated any WN movement that succeeds in getting power would be crushed by the US Govt, so our race depends on American WNs seizing power. Do you agree? I’ve tried activism here in Michigan and it’s sometimes feel like a uphill battle and we’re failing our kin across the West

@Thad88
3 days ago
on telegram

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@Esau
I like the way you think mister

@IanSnawp
3 days ago

@Thad88
i thought they were based in victoria…ill try messsging eam on telegram, thanks

Kiowa Renegade
3 days ago

@drifthamlet
i vote for Goose SStomping

@Thad88
3 days ago

@IanSnawp
yea, NSN and EAM

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
parrot mountains?

@IanSnawp
3 days ago
is there a group near parramtta???

Wolnir
3 days ago
what do you think the next step after active clubs is

@Esau
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
I agree. Active Clubs seem to be the best option in Canada right now. We have some big plans in the works.

@Esau
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
I wish them well but they ultimately are not NS and they allow non-whites at their VIP events.

@david_smith
3 days ago

@Esau
Not a fan of Diagolon?

PavlovPuppy
3 days ago
o/

Spartan_Sardaukar
3 days ago
Words and stories shape reality. Real and fictional ones. Fiction is what fuels future inventions, people imagined planes before fully building them.

@Esau
3 days ago
What’s up my Aryan brothers and sisters? Greetings from Canada.

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
WN is exploding on Twitter right now. It’s incredible. Even mainstream guys like Anthony Cumia are promoting it.

Dillinger
3 days ago
Don’t you think that “give them bread and circuses” is a simple solution?… Obviously the jews do not want White European Gentiles to have influence in the production of films and tv…

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
turkey has replica of that trojan horse

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
the old cunning linguist

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Tom if you saw a black woman being attacked, would you help her?

@GaelicNord
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Have you ever read about Roman rituals? theres 1 called evocatio deorum that basically invited foreign gods of racial foreigners that they defeated in battle back to rome. perhaps to increase their power levels. i believe they made a big mistake in inviting the jewish god back.

Lifting_Lion
3 days ago
I’m just listening while I work. earphone in and getting my work done. cheers.

@ReturnToHyperborea
3 days ago
have you seen what handsome truth has been up to lately?

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago

@Mindmyriad
But only 10-15% of the nation is habitable

@Hierophant
3 days ago
chastisement. happens to me

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
I think many people focus so heavily on demographics when looking for a place to purchase land/home that they overlook density. Australia has amazing population density. 27 million on the entire continent

Callaghan
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
be great if you could get Jason & Mark on

Love & Division
3 days ago
Be careful you don’t get dragged into a David Koresh situation.

Based Chungus
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

@Hierophant
3 days ago
o/

)))Joker(((
3 days ago
o/

Dillinger
3 days ago
One of the most unfortunate things about Hitler is that although he was a great wartime leader, his true talent was at running a great country, creating peace

@david_smith
3 days ago
I woke up a around 4am

Whiteflower
3 days ago
Are Whites waking up in Australia

Whiteflower
3 days ago
Foreigners out!

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
sure seems like it, their god certain seems demonic

Wolnir
3 days ago
what advice would you give to help with expanding a smaller org

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
If you live in the states and want to get a trade skill, look into the WIOA grant. I got it to pay for my whole trade school plus $500 dollars for work clothes.

@ReturnToHyperborea
3 days ago
Have you seen what Handsome truth has been up to lately?

Dillinger
3 days ago
I tried contacting NS13 in Ontario, got no response

@Thad88
3 days ago
most people dont get doxxed if they take basic opsec precautions

Rebellious Goy
3 days ago
based boss

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
o/

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
they doxxed too may people

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
yea, doxxing doesn’t do what it used to

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
based

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago

@theopenroad
o/

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@david_smith
Who would dare strike a god king, yo!

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@NightNationReview
o/

@david_smith
3 days ago
It is kind of odd that some people believe nobody would conspire to kill Trump.

J5
3 days ago
yeah that was a great interview with Elijah. sent that to alot of people.

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@warren-g
Pragmatic realpolitik

Dillinger
3 days ago

@tmp357
The right ear thing was at the least an interesting coincidence

Anonymous Goy
3 days ago
o/

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago
I was watching

@All-I’m-Sayin’
. He interviewed Thomas awhile ago. Does a good current events show

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago

@warren-g
Not sure as to why but they wouldnt have allowed any ,eaningful amount to move to germany.

𝙉𝙄𝙂𝙃𝙏 𝙉𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙊𝙉 𝙍𝙀𝙑𝙄𝙀𝙒
3 days ago
o/

Based Chungus
3 days ago

@Thomas_Sewell
Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

warren-g
3 days ago

@FakeTaswegian
i wonder why the germans were so buddy buddy with muslims…they were doing it in the first world war..perhaps it was “enemy of my enemy” thing

@david_smith
3 days ago

@theopenroad
lol i figured that

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago
That being said im sure the original muslims like the old persians and hindus were not like the current ones.

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago

@david_smith
I meant to post that in another chat…

Dillinger
3 days ago
Yeah, Rudolf Hess was treated with no dignity

Callaghan
3 days ago

@LoveandDivision
Dr Jim Wickstrom was right

FakeTaswegian
3 days ago
Just because Hitler said nice things about certain muslim practices doesnt mean anything admirable is coming from its adherents today.

@Thad88
3 days ago

@HarryHoller
:neutral_face:

@david_smith
3 days ago

@theopenroad
Thanks for the heads up mate

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@Lebensraum
\o

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Jews are our god in the West

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
Its all good, i appreciate the effort Brother

Av’it
3 days ago
Jesus also talks about the coming man in “The parable of the Tenants’ to the High Priests and Pharisees.

TheOpenRoad
3 days ago
Thomas Sewell is Live

@david_smith
3 days ago
God does nothing, you have to do it.

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@Mindmyriad
Good Evening o/

Walther Mauser
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
lol, beat me to it

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Walther

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@WaltherMauser
Thanks Walter !

Heeb Watch
3 days ago
Evening from Denver, CO Chat & Sewell \o

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Your not boring if you got a few braincells to rub together, and some will to power

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Tom needs to to another episode of Racist Couch

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Pisslam

@Lebensraum
3 days ago

@fantastic_journey
Thankyou. Appreciate it

@jbc77
3 days ago
the talk has been outstanding.

@Lebensraum
3 days ago
Is Toms interview with Schaefer only on Rumble errr? Cant find it on Schaefers channel here

Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Tabula Rasa – blank slate. People are covered with beliefs and ideas that they’ve picked up like a nasty windshield filled with bugs. Enlightenment is an unprogramming. That’s the child-like state of truth.

@Nemo
3 days ago
You have to add a bank account to your Odysee account in order to receive donations. Odysee has very low fees compared to other livestream platforms.

WaffleStake
3 days ago
you can still trade them on some exchanges?

@Nemo
3 days ago
Those Odysee LBC tokens are completely worthless since being shut down by the (((US Securities Exchange Commission)))

@Thad88
3 days ago
:blind:

@Thad88
3 days ago

@aMan
being gay and Blue Orbital is moron

@Nathan_Swindon
3 days ago
Rumble maybe

@drifthamlet
3 days ago
Hail Sewell

Harry Holler
3 days ago

@aMan
100%

Blue Orbital
3 days ago
being a christian and against jewish power is a oxymoron

Harry Holler
3 days ago
“Because muh Jeebus was a jew too”

Walther Mauser
3 days ago
Bad Tölz Junkerschulen type streams are the best.

Harry Holler
3 days ago
That Elijah Schaffer interview was a godike performance, Thomas.

Av’it
3 days ago
Better is the little that the righteous has
than the abundance of many wicked.
17 For ythe arms of the wicked shall be broken,
but the LORD zupholds the righteous.

Dillinger
3 days ago
Near death experiences

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Come on, follow Jesus, and just spread the other cheek when the jews fuvk you over

Harry Holler
3 days ago
Lol. Thank you.

Wizard in the Woods
3 days ago
Welcome to the higher IQ chat

Harry Holler
3 days ago
goddamn. Red Ice was boring the shot out of me

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago
It goes all the way back to Cro-Magnon VS. Neanderthal. Jews have high levels of neanderthal admixture; they are the descendants of the human-neanderthal hybrids discovered in Israel:
https://forward.com/culture/434525/evidence-of-human-neanderthal-hybrids-found-in-israeli-cave/

@CampsLindburgh
3 days ago
heaven is true, beautiful and good

Dillinger
3 days ago
Varg’s belief is basically reincarnation, but only if you mate within your own race

AMALEK INTERNATIONAL
3 days ago

@Spikeedgecrusher
Yes; Trump will just put the normiecons back to sleep. Kabala Harris and her Jewish husband would be the best strategic choice for 3rd positionists

@Spikeedgecrusher
3 days ago
I personally want Trump to lose. I want White Americans to realize that no one is coming to save them, demographics are destiny, and non whites are voting against them based on race. I don’t think his assassination would have lead directly to a civil war but soead up the process

@Dangbot
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cool

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3 days ago
They need the White representation so they will fight for Israel, thats it.

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3 days ago
Whats odd about muslims and indians. Is that islam talks about certain health rules and wrestling and the hindu gods are portayed as these jakced warriors, but every muslim & indian in melbourne is lanky or fat.

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3 days ago
jews have propoed up trump to all ends

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3 days ago
ghandi was a fag

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3 days ago
Low barrier to entry for islam…

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3 days ago
LOL

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3 days ago
lol

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3 days ago
are you religious, Tom?

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this is the most boring content I have ever seen

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remember to conserve your vril/seed bros

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3 days ago
Superorganism

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Any tips for or rants on the schizomaxxing archetypes? I feel like you tone down your third eye a lot on streams lol…trump’s right ear….

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mass deportations to africa asap

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3 days ago
who would win: every top ‘intellectual’ in the West vs 1 aussie construction worker?

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im sure he has other social media that you can reech out, but to be honest ive never seen Sewell live like other guys

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is ther any otherway?

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its possible that hees not seeking donations

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@tbs12345678
it says only creators with verified cash accounts.

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3 days ago
TEAM WHITE UNITE

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3 days ago
[Isa 3:12 KJV][as for] my people, children [are] their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause [thee] to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

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3 days ago
if your society’s norms/morals run counter to nature, it’ll be enslaved and gang raped by a society with norms that are in concordance with nature

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3 days ago
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HH and I don’t mean the WWF

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Listening on a forklift o/

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David Kurten

Collective Punishment is a Talmudic Principle:

Discussion with Mads Palsvig

Wed, Mar 27, 2024

[David Kurten talks with Mads Palsvig, leader of the Prosperity Party in Denmark about the following, among other similar topics:

– jewish strategy of using claims of “anti-semitism” to further their power.
– jewish take-over every institution in America.
– 85% of the Biden administration is jewish
– the collective punishments of all Russians with their assets frozen
– in the Talmud a jew is worth 10,000 non-jews and a jew is entitled to 2,800 slaves
– Hollywood is full of Talmudic jews pumping out nonstop White guilt, social engineering of hate towards White people
– leading jewish scholars, writers, etc, talk about genociding not only Palestinians but also Whites
– only allowed to hear about harm to jews
– a Talmudian world order is based on hate, revenge, and racial supremacy
– hatred of Germans
– destruction of the West

– KATANA]

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David Kurten: Welcome back to the David Kurten Show here on Today’s News Talk, TNT. And it is fantastic to have back on the show Mads Palsvig, who is the leader of the Prosperity Party in Denmark. Mads, welcome back to the show.

Mads Palsvig: Thanks, David. Good to see you again.

David Kurten: Yeah, really good to see you again. Now I want to talk to you about some, you know, the general issues that you write about and speak about on X [formerly Twitter] and on social media, as well as leading the party in Denmark. And that relates to something that happened in the news in the UK yesterday. There was an incident at Manchester Airport where a couple of Israelis were stopped, you know, in a routine check. They were held for a couple of hours and then let into the country.

But there was a complete outpouring of the narrative that these people have been treated badly. They’ve been treated with “anti-semitism” because they come from Israel. But if someone came from Russia or Afghanistan and they were given the same treatment, no one would bat an eyelid.

And do you think that the narrative of anti-semitism is talked up more than you know, that actually there is anti-semitism in existence in the West?

Mads Palsvig: Oh, for sure, yeah. I mean, leading jewish scholars admit openly that it’s a tool they use to get sympathy. And they’re very successful in this. They managed to take over literally every institution in America. 85% of the Biden administration is jewish!

So they are very successful.

And you mentioned Russia. Now, my wife is Russian-jewish, so I’m of course knowledgeable about what’s going on there.

And if you talk about “anti-Russianism”, if such a word exists, most people are not aware that Russian people were collectively punished for Putin’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine by having all their assets frozen overnight. They didn’t even get 24 hours to transfer their money to Dubai or elsewhere. They just had all their assets frozen.

So you have collective punishments of all Russians. I cannot send a package to my mother-in-law. I cannot send money to my mother-in-law. I cannot travel directly to my mother-in-law. I have to spend 1,000 Euros to travel through Istanbul or Dubai to visit my mother-in-law, who is old, who is fragile, who is in hospital on and off. And this is collective punishment, but this is just Russians!

And then if you are reading the Talmud, then you would see that they write that a jew is worth 10,000 non-jewish! And a jew should have 2, 800 non-jewish slaves! These are not my words. These are written in the Talmud.

[02:55]

And I believe that some of the jews in Hollywood and some of the jews in the US administration are clearly Talmud followers, because the chutzpah to think that you are entitled to 85% of the good jobs. And that goes for not only the Biden administration, that goes for all the leading jobs on us universities, all the social engineering, the woke culture that is happening there, the anti-Christian and the hostility towards Christian people. Hollywood is also 85% Talmud followers. And it’s nonstop White guilt, social engineering, hate towards White people:

“Just open your borders. We need to get rid of the White people!”

And they literally, you can find so many examples of leading scholars, writers, politicians in the Knesset, talking openly about, you know, not only genociding the Amalek, they call the Palestinians, but actually all White people!

So I think it’s about time that all jewish people, all the good jewish people, and I know a lot of them, when you have a jewish wife, you get a lot of jewish friends. I love them! And I need more jewish people now to go out and say:

“Excuse me, maybe if we only 2% of them are America, maybe we shouldn’t have more than four to 5%, at most, of the leading post in the society?”

Because who’s talking about the diversity? It’s the jews who are talking about the diversity! It’s the jews who are using this tool of calling diversity by shaming and White guilt tripping the White people. Because we’re all behind the Holocaust! All of us! Not only some psychopathic Nazis, who wanted to loot jewish wealth, but all White people have to pay.

So you can have, … Well Americans don’t have free healthcare. If a jew is sick in America, they have free healthcare, even including organ transplantations.

So there is a rule for thee and the rule for the other people. And this is based on this philosophy of “collective punishment” that is inherent in the Talmud. This Amalek “kill all of them”. So if one Muslim commits a crime against a jew, then kill all of them! This is collective punishment. This is not Christian.

In Christianity, we have an eye for an eye, which means if someone is committing a crime, you can go for one person and only him. You cannot kill his wife and children! It’s not a Christian thing to do. And I would like to see a more Christian world order in the Christian societies, and a Muslim and a Hindu and a Buddhist in their societies, of course.

I’m not saying Christians should be running the whole show. I’m just saying in the Christian countries, I would like to see a Christian world order of love, of forgiveness, of all men are created equal, and never collective punishment, only the perpetrator.

And what we’re seeing is we’re having a Talmudian world order right now perpetrated by the 85% in the Biden administration, and that is hate! That is revenge! That is racial supremacy! That the only genocide we are allowed to hear about is crimes committed against jewish people.

[06:24]

The 50 to 100 million Russian, mainly Orthodox Christians that were murdered, we’re not allowed to talk about! Any other genocide it’s not important! Because there is a racial supremacy inherent in the Talmud!

And I would like to see all my jewish friends who might watch this and any other jewish person, who are lovely people, and I love jewish people. They’re bright, they’re fun to be with, they’re great people. But please, come on, now!

I mean, if you’re promoting diversity, then try to be a little bit diverse. Allow some Hindus, some Buddhists, and Muslims and Christians to be allowed to make some movies and run Wall Street, run the universities, get an occasional seat in the Congress and the Biden administration.

David Kurten: That is an absolutely extraordinary figure! 85% of the Biden administration being jewish. I didn’t know it was that high, being a Christian myself. And I say the majority of people in the United States, which obviously is the most powerful country in the West, would say they’re Christian.

But I think there is a very big blind spot here, because a lot of Christians would support jews because they think of themselves as living in a judeo-Christian culture, and think that Judaism is just, well, the Bible without the New Testament, it’s just the Old Testament.

And a lot of Christians have never even heard of the Talmud.

I mean, I myself, I’d never heard of the Talmud until three or four years ago. I wasn’t even aware of his existence. And I’ve now come to understand some of the things that are in it, and it’s absolutely horrific!

And it means that if you follow the Talmud, which was written in the first of the fourth century AD as a rejection of Christ, Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Testament.

And a lot of jews are Christians. There are messianic jews who follow Christ, have gone that way, but there are some who follow the Talmud. And it’s a horrific book, isn’t it?

And I think everyone should be aware of what’s in there. And you’ve put that very well and succinctly how that book is now having an incredible influence over Christian nations.

Mads Palsvig: Yeah, I mean the reason that you and I probably were not aware of that until, in my case, also three, four years ago, is because there’s a death penalty for a jew to tell a non-jew about the Talmud. They know that it’s not good.

And in the Talmud, they also write that you are free to commit any crime against non-jewish people, even on the annual Purim*. To take part in the annual Purim. I just posted a video of how they have kids dress up as Arabs and jews.

[09:21]

And then in the Purim, the kids in the schools are play killing the Arabs. I’m not kidding! It’s happening. This is what they do. And on the Purim, they have to go in, if they take part in that. I’m not saying in all synagogues, not in all synagogues, but in certain synagogues they have, when they take part in the Purim, in the ritual, annual ritual, they have to promise to break all promises to non-jews in the following twelve months. And that’s totally fine! I mean, come on now! That’s enough!

And there are so many assimilated, or whether there are religious or non-religious jewish people out there. I think, you know, you had a good run. We all love you. We’re not going to collectively punish you, all of you, for what some evil jewish people have done of crimes. We are Christian people. We will only go for those who actually committed a crime. We’re not going to go after his wife or his kids. This is not a Christian thing to do.

And then I have another thing I would like to say is the Germans have now been punished for 80 years.

I mean, can you find an inch, an ounce of forgiveness in your heart? Isn’t this enough? Isn’t it enough now!

The latest gimmick they now have found out is that now they have to be ritualistically humiliated during the European football championship. And the German men are forced to play in pink! Come on!

David Kurten: No! I didn’t know that. That’s terrible, isn’t it?

Mads Palsvig: It is so in your face! We own you!

Come on, that’s not good. We are nice people. And the jews people are nice, but we are all nice people. We should get along.

And the thing is, the minute Germany get their freedom again, then Germany and Russia will find out that they could benefit each other with Russian energy, German ingenuity, and we would have freedom, democracy and prosperity beyond belief!

If only we are allowed to not be socially engineered into hating each other and fighting all these ridiculous wars that already cost at least half a million young men their lives in Ukraine. It’s horrible!

David Kurten: Yeah, well, it goes back a long way, doesn’t it? I think we’ve had the World Wars of the last century.

But I think the greatest tragedy, or tragedies, of the last century is that there was enmity created between England or Britain and Germany and Russia and Germany and America and Germany, and now America and Russia and Britain and Russia. And we have four great Christian nations here. If we all got along and helped each other and supported each other and worked for creating prosperity and building a Christian society in a Christian world, how incredible would the world be? But this continual enmity being stirred up, and I speak against it. You speak against it.

[12:35]

I mean, look at the Russophobia in all of the mainstream media all over the West because of what’s going on in Ukraine. And you just think that this is perpetuating the tragedy and perpetuating something that is desperately wrong here, when we should all stop fighting against each other and start being friends again.

Mads Palsvig: I totally agree. And if I can add, this fight against Russians, it’s again a sanction against human beings of flesh and blood with a beating heart. It’s against the Russian people.

And also all us non-Russians who have friends and family we love in Russia. It’s not against the corporations. 97% of all western corporations who were there in March 2022 are still there. You can buy everything there! I was there last year visiting my Russian family, and everything is there. And the standard of living is just going one way. The sanctions are not working. The Russian people are hardworking. They don’t understand this hate. They’re very serious people. They’re ready to fight. They don’t want to fight.

But if you want to fight, they will hit back! And I have no shadow of doubt. If there is a war, they will win it. And I try very hard to show a third way. So you have, like, you have one way. You are either pro-China and Russia or you’re pro-NATO.

But I would like to say there’s actually another way. That is, there are some people who are running both, who are trying to stir up the beans and get both sides to fight each other.

And I think it goes back a long way. If you read books by Golitsyn and Bezmanov, they suggest that it was actually engineered in the Soviet Union back in the sixties. All the social engineering in the West, the youth revolution, the feminism, the attack on Christianity, was all engineered in the atheistic communist Soviet Union back in the sixties. These are first hand witnesses who were present in the meetings who say that.

And you can see it might have happened by other means, but there were definitely a motive. And they tried to do it and they’ve succeeded in doing it.

So that’s the third way I’m trying to say is that someone is trying to infiltrate and destroy our Christian nations and they’re trying to make us fight with Russia and China.

David Kurten: Yeah, well, I mean, I absolutely agree with you because, you know, looking back in history, you know, just very briefly, there was this hideous revolution in 1917. The Royal Romanov family was executed by, you know, Bolsheviks, and most of the Bolsheviks were jewish, Talmudist jewish people. And then revolution didn’t happen and take off in the West, so cultural Marxism was developed. You know, that goes back from the sixties, and then it also goes back to the Frankfurt School in the 1920s as well.

[15:35]

And one of the people involved in the Comintern at the time was Willi Münzenberg, who is reported to have said:

“We will make Western civilisation stink! We will change and undermine all it’s values and make life impossible!”

So that’s really horrible! It’s quite satanic! You’ve got these people who actually genuinely wanted to do that.

But Mads, I totally agree with you on all of these things. I wish we could talk for much longer because we’ve just touched the surface on this issue. And, you know what you’re saying about feminism being created. I mean, this is a cultural Marxist ideology where women are seen to be oppressed and they need to “rise up and smash the Patriarchy”.

And then you have homophobia and trans-phobia where the LGBTs are created as a group, and then they need to rise up and smash hetero-normativity and undermine Christian values, and so on.

So this is going on in multiple different parts of society and we can see it.

But anyway, Mads, thank you so much for joining me on the show today, and I really wish you well and the best with your Prosperity Party in Denmark. I hope one day we can be in the places of power and we can turn things around and we can get things back to normal.

Mads Palsvig, thank you for joining me here on Today’s News Talk, TNT.

[16:59]

[END]

[* Purim: A Festival of Hate and an Insight into How Jewish Supremacists view Gentiles
March 14, 2014 at 12:10 am

Purim: A Festival of Hate and an Insight into How Jewish Supremacists view Gentiles

By David Duke. As the Jewish celebration of Purim starts on March 15, it is timely to ask what is Purim, why is it celebrated and what does it mean? The answers to these questions are shocking–and always covered up by the Jewish-Supremacist controlled mass media.

It is vital that non-Jews acquire a fundamental understanding of the unconscionable hatred engendered by this primitive Jewish celebration of atavistic hatred, murder and revenge against their enemies, a feast called “Purim”.

According to the Jewish religion, Purim means “Feast of Lots” which comes from the Jewish contention that Haman, who was the Prime Minister to the King of Persia, Xerxes (the Jews call him Ahasuerus), planned to kill all the Jews in the empire.

Xerxes’ wife was the Jewish Esther and she with the Jewish leader Mordechai interceded with the King, to have Haman executed and allow the Jews to exact revenge upon those they saw as their enemies.

There is no archeological or historical evidence for any of this other than the bloodthirsty writings in Esther and it’s admittedly Jewish version of the events. The book of Esther records that Haman along with all of his ten sons were hanged, and that 75,000 Persians were slaughtered by the Jews.

Interestingly enough, the Jews used Jewish influence (that of Esther) over a Gentile king to do their dirty work. In one instance, the book of Esther even frankly tells how the King was fooled into believing wrongly that Haman had cut down his beloved grove of trees.

Esther explains that Haman did not do this but the angels did it and appeared to the keepers of the trees as Haman.

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@ChefEarthenware
1 day ago
Excellent guest.
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@MrSillenomis
1 day ago
Hats off again to David for a great interview providing brave clarity on these issues
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@TheGreatestLieEverTold
1 day ago
God bless you David for doing this and thank you.
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@allenniumfalcon
1 day ago
Bang on.
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@sipocharles9180
13 hours ago
For years, I have questioned the statistical absurdity of Jews having a global monopoly on business, banking, and economics, which by extension means the world, but representing only 0.2% of the world’s 8 billion people.
Mr. Palsvig echoes this sentiment and articulates it excellently, aiming at problem root causes, so I look forward to hearing from him more.
Well done, David. I applaud your courage in tackling this sensitive topic.
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
a racket of blackmail, extortion and payoffs
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@clivejohnston9894
1 day ago
Massive fan David – this guy is kicking ass 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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@DavidUK64
13 hours ago
Great job David and Mads!!
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@martingodden613
7 hours ago
my lovely wife is Russian.She is unable to transfer her Russian pension home to the UK.Something she worked hard for many years to receive.Collective punishment indeed.
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@ChrisLipthorpe
22 hours ago
I met Mads at an Ian R Crane AV conference in 2018. We need more politicians like him.
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@davestevenson9080
1 day ago
Fantastic push of the overton window there david. I don’t really believe there is a political solution but if heritage run in my area i’ll give them a vote
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
you are wise to know the solution isnt political, its theological
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@a.j.b.8658
8 hours ago
I hope you can turn things around too, David! I’d be proud to vote for you.
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@bertibear1300
1 day ago
Good show.
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@mattfm101
5 hours ago
David knows how to touch on this subject without ever touching on it, it’s beyond words how impressive how he does it.
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@Thecountofstgermaine
1 day ago (edited)
Well done david you keep blowing me away with your guests, im a deep researcher into jewish malfeasance glad youve got the cojones to go there may god be with you always.
EDIT:if anyone needs documentaries or sources ill be glad to help
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@davidkurten1
1 day ago
Thank you
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago (edited)
Absolutely fantastic interview, thank you!
People have been encouraged and conditioned to be horrified by the Qur’an and Muslims while the (much worse) Talmud is kept quiet and if you talk about how much more appalling it is you’re ‘anti-Semitic’ – all by design!
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@gillps5130
1 day ago (edited)
Kim Iversen very recently, now this. At long last. Europa the Last Battle and ‘The World Conquerors’, Louis Marschalko fills much else in. I’m glad you mentioned the Frankfurt School, David, which was in danger of being left out.
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@GhostfaceAB
12 hours ago
Well said
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@fredfredericks3496
1 day ago
There goes your YouTube channel, David. At least I’ve got the TNT app lol
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
i have been informing people for years. was banned from facebook for it for 5 years. now its meainstream
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago
You and me both!
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
@astroterf. to the end, brother
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago
@romeisfallingagain
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@rl53
6 hours ago
Lebor Glas Clann is a good read David for an alternative history of ideologies & how they came about.

@dd7521
15 hours ago
Free health care?
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@kronos77
1 day ago
What was he saying about free health care for Jews in America? I dont get it.
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@lilleypops1868
13 hours ago
Apparently the US is paying for the health care in Israel and if they need to go abroad for treatment that’s paid for too. As for organ donation I believe they can accept organs but cannot donate organs themselves. I don’t know how true this is.
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@romeisfallingagain
3 hours ago
wait til you find out about their mortgages/loan arrangement lol “heter iska” lol

@earthstick
1 day ago (edited)
I’m not sure that the accusation of anti-semitism is talked up, and I am not sure it is wrong either. If I was a Jew who follows the Talmud, then it follows that I would think differently. But I am not. So it seems to come down to this: Some groups, be they racial, national, religious, will put people of their group before people outside their group. And it seems that either Christians never did that, or it has been lost. Christ said anyone can be saved, so long as they follow him, so it is primarily a religious group. But if this group does not put its members before those outside the group, then there is nothing really to it, and its own destruction is inevitable. So how does it avoid being a weak group?
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@gillps5130
1 day ago
A really good question. The nature of Christianity virtually prohibits exclusivity. It wasn’t always so, crusades, missionary work etc but we have evolved away from it while others haven’t.
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@earthstick
1 day ago
@gillps5130 That’s it, exclusivity. It appears to be the anathema of modern Christian nations. But a group exists because there is condition that divides the whole into those inside and those outside the group. Without that condition there is no group, nothing to be within. That condition is critical, it must be studied, understood, and enforced.

@earthstick
1 day ago
@gillps5130 It’s more than just that though. Is it true that the Pope blessed weapons in WWI? Because Jesus being a peaceful man, objected to that. And it seems if the Pope did infact bless weapons/support WWI, then we can see a clear contradiction that had such consequences that I dare say it has greatly damaged Christian faith. But that begs the question of how do we overcome the violent people. You mention the crusades, a bloody period in Christain history and a rude contradiction. But nobody cared about that until now.
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@earthstick
1 day ago
@gillps5130 The recent chemical attacker migrant was accepted into the Christian faith, yet had a Muslim funeral. This question of exclusivity is central.
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@ayyleeuz4892
23 hours ago
all ethnic groups have positive and negative ethnocentrism, each to varying degrees. Christianity is a religion, and it is universalist.

@gillps5130
13 hours ago
I’ve tried to reply twice but each time they have been deleted.

@ayyleeuz4892
13 hours ago
@gillps5130 you must write as if you are talking to an extremely politically correct person whom you do not want to upset

@earthstick
10 hours ago
@ayyleeuz4892 But it still has conditions before someone can be regarded a Christian. If there is no condition then it cannot categorise, and thus does not exist.

@ayyleeuz4892
9 hours ago
@earthstick I don’t know what you’re referring to. you mentioned noticing in group cooperation between Jews. I explain that Christianity is a universalist religion, whereas Judaism has a “law of matrilineal descent” so only people whose mothers were Jews are Jews, and so their ethnocentrism is expressed quite apparently in the world.

@shrunkensimon
10 hours ago
I’d be very careful that you actually understand the full history before giving energy to something that may end up causing a future mass horror – are you certain you’re pinning the tail on the donkey.
Bare in mind you may be seeing what someone wants you to see, so they can remain out of sight while another party takes the flack.

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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
no, its called indepth study. everything said is correct. you just didnt get taught the history or theology by the controllers of the system
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
@shrunkensimon rothschild isnt the beginning of this. the talmud is, and its teaching. i have hundreds of books which cover the topic at hand. stop coping
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@shrunkensimon
3 hours ago
@romeisfallingagain Do you understand world history? The last 2000 years are about Rome, not Judaism.

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The Joel & Blair Show – Brown Nation, Gay Rapist Dudeweed Democracy, Trans-terrorism!? – Mar 30, 2023 – Transcript

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The Joel & Blair Show

Brown Nation, Gay Rapist,

Dudeweed Democracy, Transterrorism!?

Thu, Mar 30, 2023

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(1:39:44 mins)

Joel Davis: Should be live. Welcome to The Joel and Blair Show, going out live on YouTube for the first time. Hopefully we’ll last a while on here. Who knows how long it’ll last, but here we are. And we got a good show for you tonight. It’s been an interesting news week and we’ve got a lot to cover. A lot of One Nation news. We got some One Nation cucking, which is why I put Brown Nation in the title. But also, interesting story today with Mark Latham letting it rip on Twitter. Pauline Hanson’s freaking out because some of his remarks. We will cover that.

We’ll also cover some of the fallout from the New South Wales election. Real repudiation of democracy. You have a gay rapist, a literal gay rapist who was elected. You have the Dude Weed Party getting a Senator from the stoner vote. We have a transsexual terrorist, straight up terrorist, killing Christians in the United States. And there’s been a lot of fallout to that online. Amazing to witness, obviously, the double standard between how they’ve been treated versus so-called, quote, unquote:

“White supremacists.”

Or quote, unquote:

“White nationalist terrorism.”

Trans terrorism is fine. Just make sure you don’t misgender the terrorists, apparently.

So we’re going to get into that.

Also, we had a news report a couple of days ago telling us basically that we’re going to take 650,000 migrants over the next two year period. And it’s kind of in line with what we’ve been getting lately. No surprises there. But it’s something also that needs to be covered, as well as how the political process is reacting to it.

I spent a bit of time this week watching proceedings in Parliament, Parliament Question Time, their interactions in the Senate, to get a vibe for how the politicians are reacting and how they frame the issue. So I wanted to get into a discussion on that as well.

Also, the news is coming out that they’re still reeling from the protest down in Melbourne the other day. They are going to ban, the swastika in Queensland, I believe. I think even if you post anything with like, quote, unquote:

“Nazi iconography.”

On social media, that there’ll be jail terms.

So that’s apparently the priority.

Yeah, bear with Blair. He was held up at the fish and chip shop trying to get a burger and there were a bunch of Uber Eats drivers seemingly holding him up in the line while he was waiting for his burger.

Blair Cottrell: Hey, I want a burger. And they’re like, yeah, no problem, that’ll be 45 minutes. And I’m like, what? You wonder, why is it going to take that long? And while you’re waiting, like, 20 Indians come in and take Uber Eats orders and leave. And I’m like:

“Oh, my God, that’s why.”

But I’m going to be eating my burger at the start of the stream.

[03:15]

Apologies, I just walked in the door, had a big day at work. Went straight to the gym from work, trained myself and this is my only chance to eat. I’ve also been feeling a little bit off today. I won’t harp on too long about my personal dilemmas.

But last night I had some of that NAC. Do, you know what NAC is, Joel? It’s like a precursor supplement to glutathione. So glutathione is supposed to be one of the most powerful antioxidants for the body, great for the immune system, blah, blah, blah. And the idea is that if you have some NAC powder before you go to bed, then while you’re sleeping, it stimulates your body’s own glutathione production, thereby just healing you better while you sleep.

Now, the tub that I got didn’t have a measuring scoop inside it.

So I just got a whole tablespoon and put it in a glass of water and drank it. But it tasted really strong. And I’m like, I wonder if that was too much? And I looked at the back and it said, like, you only need, like, one fifth of a metric teaspoon. And I’m like:

“Well, I had a lot more than that.”

And then I started reading up on what happens if you have too much. And I have experienced everything that is consistent with having too much. Very upset gut, nausea, lethargy, weakness, just feeling like shit all day!

So it’s been a trying day, and I’m going to try my best to give you guys my attention, but just giving you all the facts so you understand why I might be dragging my feet tonight.

Joel Davis: You were going to be the guy that I called up to say:

“Look, Blair, I want to start taking more supplements. I want to improve my health. I’ll get some advice from you.”

You seem like you’re into that kind of shit, and now you’re telling me that you’re poisoning yourself! I don’t know if I’m going to call you! [chuckling]

Blair Cottrell: That’s why I’m the guy. I have trialed and error, pretty much everything. I am the guy who has tried it all, at all the doses. So you want to know what happens if you take this much of this drug? Ask me, bro. I’ve probably tried it!

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s a good point. So maybe I will still call you up and get some advice because, …

Blair Cottrell: I’ll be right back. I’m just going to get some cutlery.

Joel Davis: Yeah, no worries. Yeah, I take zinc pills because I find that when I take zinc regularly, in addition to keeping my vitamin C levels up, I don’t get sick. And whenever I have just gotten lazy and stopped taking zinc on a regular basis for a few months, that’s the only time in which I ever get, like, a cold or something. So I maintain my zinc regiment for that reason. There’s apparently a lot of other benefits to zinc in addition to that. That is one recommendation.

If you don’t want to get sick, drink orange juice regularly or get your vitamin C some other way and take a zinc pill. It’s really easy just to pop a zinc pill one a day. Even if you forget it a couple of days a week, you take it five out of the seven days a week at the minimum. Keeps your zinc level at a reasonable level and you won’t get sick. At least in my experience.

[06:26]

Maybe that’s also a genetic thing. Maybe if you’re really predisposed to getting sick, you’ll still get sick. But I find whenever I tell people, whenever I notice someone is sick, I ask them, do you take zinc pills? Invariably they say no. I advise them to do so. And then I check in with them six months later or whatever, and they say, yeah, I haven’t gotten sick in six months since I started taking those zinc pills. That’s happened to me about five or six times with different people.

So obviously that’s not a scientific study. That’s just my personal kind of testimony.

But in my personal experience, it’s very good for you.

But yeah, I guess we should start getting into some of the news here. And before we get into Latham’s tweet today, I don’t know if you saw it, Blair, I did send it to you. I will pull it up on stream in a bit. But before that, I wanted to discuss, …

Blair Cottrell: Sorry is that a real tweet? Latham’s tweet?

Joel Davis: That was a real tweet.

Blair Cottrell: Wow!

Joel Davis: That was a real tweet. [chuckling] I’ll actually rig it up and I’ll pull it up on screen because we’re on YouTube. I don’t know if I could even repeat it.

But yeah, it’s funny because Mark Latham, we’re not a fan. I’ve been wringing him out on this show, actually, for I mean, this that’s why I put “Brown Nation” in the title because they’re running Indians in Western Sydney, I found very personally offensive. And we’ll get into that.

But this tweet is kind of funny.

So yeah, I’ll pull it up on screen now. But yeah, it’s good to see that Mark Latham at least still has some masculinity. Unlike most Australian politicians.

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know if I would call it masculinity. What I see behind the eyes of Mark Latham, is a brooding bitterness! There’s an anger to Mark Latham that is not often or effectively expressed.

And I think that’s why sometimes he rips out stuff like this. Are you bringing the tweet up on the screen? Can you do that?

Joel Davis: Yeah, I am. I am. Just 1 second.

Blair Cottrell: Is it different for YouTube or something? It shouldn’t be.

Joel Davis: No. I should have prepared more before stream. Sorry, boys, but here we go. I got it now.

[Mark Latham’s tweet:

“Disgusting? How does it compare with sticking your dick up a bloke’s arse and covering it in shit?”

[09:00]

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, Mark Latham’s got one of those “it’s also tiresome” kind of demeanors. But there’s like an aggression behind his external persona.

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I see what you mean. He is an intense guy, that’s for sure.

He was actually at the conference I was at the other day. He was telling a friend of ours, actually, I won’t mention who, but he was having a conversation with a friend of ours and he was going on about how Julia Gillard is a lesbian and how that guy that he was married to was a homosexual and it was just all for optics. They got married for political optics.

And I think they’ve actually divorced now. That was kind of funny hearing him rant about that.

Blair Cottrell: But is he wrong about that?

Joel Davis: No, someone called him because the other day I think we talked about it on the show there was a kind of anti-trans Christian kind of event basically in Bellfield in Sydney, at St. Michael’s Church. Which is a church in Sydney where there’s a traditional Latin mass and a lot of the Christian Lives Matter. People like, the Lebos [Lebanese] that run that and some other people, they were there, some other Catholic people were there and they got a pretty good turnout. There were hundreds of people there.

And Mark Latham showed up to speak, because it was just before the election and he wanted to talk about how One Nation’s policies for trying to keep the trans stuff out of schools and things like that.

Anyway, so he was doing a speech there and Antifa types came and tried to counter protest. They basically got bashed, and run out of the show, which is good to see. And he gave his speech. And then someone was calling him disgusting for basically being complicit in this, and his attitude towards the LGBT community or something. And then so he kind of clapped back on Twitter with this earlier today. Which quite funny, then he deleted it.

But I think about 6,000 people saw it or so before he deleted it.

And then apparently Pauline [Hanson, leader of One Nation] put out a video that she’d been calling him all day. He wasn’t answering the phone. And so she came out and condemned the remarks as “deplorable” or whatever. And the One Nation party doesn’t condone it.

Blair Cottrell: If you’re going to delete a tweet because you’re thinking, if I delete this, Twitter won’t suspend me or I’m going to save some grace or somehow by deleting the tweet, it doesn’t work that way. I tweeted something on Twitter once and it was only up for like 60 seconds, but I realized it was probably a bit much. I deleted it and then I got suspended for it like hours after it was deleted, even though it was up for a minute.

So there’s no point in deleting tweets once they’re up, really. Has he made any apology for it or has he just not said anything?

[12:00]

Joel Davis: He said nothing. He’s not even picking up the phone of Pauline. Pauline shouldn’t have said anything. But she’s got that what is that James Ashby guy who’s her right hand man, who is a homosexual. So again “Cuck Nation” yet again, another classic cucking from Cuck Nation.

Blair Cottrell: Speaking of cuckings, did you see that redhead chick who interviewed Nick Fuentes? She did like a big apology video, apparently.

Joel Davis: Yeah, I saw that. She has a lot of black people who are involved in the show and that are on the show. That kind of whole manosphere thing, there’s a lot of blacks involved for some reason.

Anyway, because of that, I think she started to get pressured. Because during that I don’t know if you watched the whole interview with Nick, but during the interview she made some remarks about slavery, saying basically downplaying how inhumane slavery was and that it’s kind of overblown and made into a bigger tragedy than it actually was. And that a lot of the slaves, after they were freed, went back to their previous owners and seek conventional employment and so on.

Anyway, so she got dragged over hot coals, and she is a coal burner, by the way. Like she’s had black boyfriends in the past and surrounds herself with black men.

So I don’t particularly like her. I thought she did a good job in interviewing Nick in that one interview and it was good to get those ideas for them to have some exposure because she’s got a big YouTube channel with over like a million subscribers.

Blair Cottrell: I’m could of told her:

“In politics, never apologize! Never!”

Joel Davis: Yeah, because now it’ll never be enough. Once you do something that offends them and you get, quote, unquote:

“Cancelled.”

It doesn’t matter how many times you apologize, they’ll never forgive you, because they kind of perceive you as having the wrong thoughts. And I didn’t really watch the video of her apologizing, but obviously it was a pathetic display.

But from what someone told me about it, apparently there were people that were also calling into this stream. Because she did an apology video and then there was a stream where there were a whole bunch of black people were like:

“You’re a White woman, you shouldn’t say that!”

Blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, so then some people called into the stream and were defending her saying:

“You’re entitled to your own opinion. Whether you’re right or wrong, this is getting blown out of proportion.”

And she wouldn’t even accept the people defending her. She just would say things like:

“Well, I shouldn’t have said anything and I don’t want to say anything now. I’m already in enough trouble.”

Kind of thing.

So obviously, obviously quite cucked. But I mean, she’s a woman who dates black guys, so I mean, how much can you really expect from her? I don’t really view it as a betrayal. She was never one of us anyway. So who cares?

But as you said, it’s another good case in point. That’s apologising gets you nowhere.

[15:25]

Blair Cottrell: Malcolm Roberts Tweet. Look at the diversity. Compare the pair. One Nation vs the Greens, New South Wales, who look like it look like a Klan meeting. That’s the thing, when you’re representing all of these hard Left viewpoints, you can be all White, because you don’t have to try to prove that you’re not racist. Because you’re like campaigning, you’re the “anti-racists”, right? You’ll notice most anti-racists are White, or made up of majority White people.

Most people who aren’t White, so-called “victims of racism”, they’re not really interested in that kind of politics, generally speaking. That’s the way I see it.

The Greens don’t need as many people of colour, Members of Parliament, members of their party, because they don’t need to constantly feel the need to prove that they’re not racist, because no one’s accusing them of being racist, right? They’re the ones accusing everybody else.

Joel Davis: Well, what’s funny about this is I actually posted this photo to Malcolm Roberts, who, by the way, for those who don’t know, Malcolm Roberts is a Senator from Queensland for the One Nation party. He used to be Senator for New South Wales.

I remember because way back in the day, I actually flicked him a vote because he used to say some decent stuff. He’d talk about how Australia is an Anglo Celtic nation. He was a boomer conservative, but he was one of the better boomer Conservatives. He’s progressively cucked over time. He used to talk about Cultural Marxism and stuff, I believe. He had some more talking points back in 2015.

Blair Cottrell: Like any politician, though, he’ll talk about what’s cool at the time. He’ll talk about, … Because a few years ago, being openly critical of so-called Cultural Marxism, that was kind of like mainstream Alt-Right theory and philosophy. It’s what was being talked about. It’s what was cool. And he was trying to get in on it, right?

But now that that’s not really, like, permitted anymore, all of that’s kind of censored and cancelled. Well, now he’s steered away from that it’s just mainstream political bullshit. It’s what they all do.

Joel Davis: Yeah.

Basically, the whole trajectory of the One Nation Party, because you got to remember back in 2016, that was when UPF was active. When you were active, you were a public figure in Australian political life, that you were making headlines, you were holding huge rallies.

And so then they pulled the One Nation Party was basically dormant for some time in the early 2000s. Pauline Hanson was booted out of the party, left the party. There was controversy. I can’t remember all the details.

[18:02]

As I promised in an earlier stream, I will get into the deep dive research on One Nation, and we’ll do a deep dive on One Nation’s history as an episode at some point in the future, not today.

But she was basically retired from politics for some time, and then they wheel her back out of retirement because you guys are making waves. I think a lot of people thought that at the time, as a containment on this budding nationalist energy, the Alt-Right is this thing sweeping the English speaking world, et cetera.

And so they wheel One Nation back out, and they did very well in that election as well. By their standards as a minor party. In the time since, they’ve progressively cucked more and more and more. And we’re going to get into some of that here.

But this image that Malcolm Roberts posted with the Greens and One Nation together. I actually posted this on Telegram two days before he posted this. So I wonder if someone saw my post of it on Telegram and it somehow filtered its way up.

But yeah, you can see here One Nation, all these mystery meats. The Greens pure Anglo Celtic stock right there to a man! But this from Malcolm Roberts, you already mentioned it. But this idea of like, the Left are the real racist star, the Greens, they’re like a Klan rally. This is incredibly cucked.

This is a party that’s supposed to be a party which stands against multiculturalism. And they never talk about that anymore. That’s what the word “one nation” means.

The whole name of the party is that we are One Nation, not many nations. And Pauline Hanson’s maiden speech to Parliament:

“We are being swamped by Asians.”

Well, now the One Nation party has been swamped by Asians. And it really is incredible sight to behold them openly celebrating this.

And as I said on Telegram, I think if you have a party that’s ostensible purpose is to provide opposition to the policy of multiculturalism, and now they basically embrace multiculturalism, that party needs to be destroyed! I mean, it fundamentally shouldn’t exist. It’s fundamentally counterproductive!

I think if the One Nation party just disappeared tomorrow, it would be good for the nationalist cause in Australia. If all of it just disappeared it would be great for the nationalist cause in Australia because then it’d have to reorganise some kind of coherent opposition to multiculturalism again.

And when people vote for One Nation, they’re casting a vote against multiculturalism. Generally speaking, that’s what the base of the party. That’s where their loyalty comes from.

Blair Cottrell: And then they are getting more multiculturalism!

Joel Davis: Yeah, they aren’t observing, … A lot of the average Aussie battler. They’re busy at work. Who votes for One Nation? Or would maybe vote for One Nation at some elections. They’re busy with family, job, et cetera. They don’t have time to be political animals like you and I, who are constantly kind of keeping up to date with everything that’s going on.

And so they don’t see all of this. They just remember the general vibe of what the party means and cast their vote.

[21:18]

And so it’s a betrayal to them. And they need to be seen as an enemy, not as “naive boomers who don’t get it”. They’re just a straight up enemy! The new policy of One Nation is to embrace multiculturalism. That’s the new policy.

We saw, that, we discussed on the show before with Mark Latham running Indians in Western Sydney, saying that:

“The Indian community and it’s values of nationalism are One Nation values.”

I mean, this is just totally ridiculous. This statement by this statement by Mark Latham. And this statement by Malcolm Roberts, really. It shows that it’s not just Latham, it’s the whole party has succumbed to this.

And I was watching earlier today, Pauline Hanson was questioning Penny Wong in the Senate. Penny Wong as the kind of leader of Labour in the Senate. And she was basically talking about this new plan, or this announcement that the government projects 650,000 migrants over a two year period of intake.

And she was saying basically:

“Well, during that same time period, there’s only about 30,000 homes that are being planned to be built.”

We already have a housing shortage as it is. This is the worst housing shortage in Australian history. Even during the Great Depression it wasn’t as bad as this, according to some studies that I’ve seen.

And they’re just going to keep bringing in more and more people, but they’re only committing to build about, as I said, 30,000 houses in that same time period.

And so this is going to cause homelessness. It’s going to jack up everyone’s rents.

Blair Cottrell: What is going to cause homelessness? Is it a rental crisis? Is it a housing shortage? It’s a combination of both. What causes that? If you have to encapsulate that and blame, …

Joel Davis: Well, it’s very simple. There’s only a certain amount of houses which exist.

So if you bring in more people, they need to live somewhere.

And so there’s more people trying to live in the same amount of houses that previously existed, which means there’s more demand for housing, which means the price of it all goes up.

Because, like, for example, the other day, my step uncle, he sold a property. And he said they wanted about 2 million. That’s what they wanted for the family home. They wanted about 2 million as their asking price, minimum. And they would have been happy to take any offer over 2 million. They put it to auction. They got 2.5.

I’ve seen lots of other reports of people, they’re putting more and more houses to auction now because there is so much demand for housing that, you know, in Sydney and Melbourne in particular, that basically house prices are getting bit up to crazy levels.

[24:15]

So anyway, basically the long and short of it is more people, same amount of houses. If you don’t build the equivalent amount of housing as the people that you bring in, you’re going to get a housing shortage. People aren’t going to be able to afford the kind of working class, lower level income earners aren’t going to be able to afford housing at the level that they used to be able to get it, and it’s going to cause a housing shortage.

But my problem with this is this is the only angle under which Hanson was even attacking the government’s policy. The housing shortage. It is a legitimate reason to attack the policy.

But she said nothing about multiculturalism. She said nothing about how bringing in hundreds and hundreds of thousands of new non-White migrants every year is going to fundamentally transform, or is already fundamentally transforming, Australia’s culture, the average Australian’s way of life, the character of the nation, that it’s creating ethnic enclaves, that it’s creating division in the society, a lack of loyalty to the Australian nation. She didn’t talk about any of these things like she used to!

And so it just shows that the party has completely capitulated to multiculturalism.

Blair Cottrell: It’s a very different Pauline Hanson than the one I suppose people who grew up with Pauline Hanson, would be used to.

But, you know, times change and people change. And I suppose when it comes to mainstream politics, have you ever seen someone go into Parliament and make any sort of progress in re-nationalizing industry or in re-nationalizing a people and a nation? Has that ever happened? And will that ever happen? As the result of enduring Parliamentary process and party politics? I don’t think it has. And I don’t think it will!

I think in order to produce radical change, the politics used to initiate that change needs to be radical. And going through the motions of Parliamentary process is kind of like kind of preventing any sort of radical change from ever taking place.

And I don’t think anyone great, or anyone capable of bringing about the sort of change this country needs to see is going to be able to do it through Parliament. I think that’s a dead industry, it’s a dead institution! I think it’s a rotten institution!

And I think even well meaning men who go into Parliament with good intentions, I think as a result of being in a rotten institution, then those men become rotten too, eventually themselves. That’s probably what happened with Pauline Hanson.

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think she has to be looked at as controlled opposition at this point. But yeah, she’s also doesn’t strike me as a very intelligent woman, as a very educated woman. And so not a strong foundation.

[27:22]

Blair Cottrell: To succeed in politics as a people’s representative, it’s being demonstrated time and time again by most Parliamentarians today. You don’t need to be intelligent! You don’t really need to have much of a plan, you don’t need to know what you’re doing. You just need to either be popular with the people or you need to have the right sponsors, one or the other.

And Pauline was one of those people who came from the working class and was popular amongst the people and the rest of them will just have the right sponsors, I suppose. Like I said, it’s a corrupt institution. But any great, … I don’t want to get too prophetic, so I’ll finish my thought there.

But basically the fundamental take I have on Parliament is that it’s just a rotten institution and I struggle to really pay attention to what’s going on in there these days. It’s a bit farcical. I think it was referred to by the Malaysian Prime Minister, Australian Parliament specifically, as “marvellous theatre”. And that’s exactly what it is.

Joel Davis: No, I agree with you. I mean, Parliamentarianism is a joke, and nothing really shows it better than some of the results in this recent New South Wales election.

So this guy here, Ward, Gareth Ward, this dude, I’ll try and find a picture of him in this article because his physiognomy is he looks like a gay rapist.

Anyway, so he’s an alleged gay rapist. It’s this guy here.

Blair Cottrell: Anyway, one of the reasons I love streaming with you “physi-ognomy”, not “physio-onomy”. I’ve been saying it wrong all my life.

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I don’t know, maybe it’s the accent thing.

Anyway, this guy, Gareth Ward, he is an alleged gay rapist. So he hasn’t been convicted of being gay rapist, obviously, because otherwise he’d he’d go to jail. But he has been charged with the rape, I think, of a 17 year old male. And I don’t know if he was charged as well with the rape, allegedly, of another 27 year old male, or sexual assault.

I didn’t look too deeply into it, but I know that he was charged with the rape of 17 year old male. And he was a member of the Liberal Party, seat of Kiama on the south coast of New South Wales.

He definitely is a homo because there’s another story that I saw in his Wikipedia page from five or so years ago when he was in New York, I believe. And apparently he ordered some erotic massage service. And these two boys came to his room, and when he realized they were underage, he tried to tell them to leave, allegedly, that’s what he claims. And they refused because they wanted the money.

And so they got into a fight, and eventually the hotel staff had to kind of call the security to get rid of these homosexual prostitute, masseuse people or whatever. So who knows exactly what went down there. It sounds like a messed up situation, but it sounds like the only the situation that he was in is only a situation to get into if you were a homosexual.

[30:46]

And now he’s being accused of he’s being formally charged as a gay rapist. When this happened, I think last year when he was charged, he was suspended from Parliament, kicked out of the Liberal Party. But he claims that he’s innocent, and he ran anyway, as an independent. Liberals ran, another candidate in his seat, Labour ran in his seat, a bunch of other candidates ran his seat, and he still won!

So, I mean, that’s incredible. I don’t know if the people of that community really have really looked into the case of him being a gay rapist or not, and they convinced that he’s innocent, or if they’re just ignorant. But I would suspect it is because they’re just ignorant.

Blair Cottrell: Because haven’t you heard, though, if you’re a rapist, it doesn’t matter if you’re gay. Remember Kevin Spacey when he was accused of, like was he accused of sexually assaulting a child or something? I can’t remember. Maybe possessing child sex material. He got accused of something like that. I don’t know what the details were, but then he just turned around and said:

“I’m gay.”

And everyone just dropped the subject. And I don’t even know what happened.

Everyone just left it alone. That was it. [chuckling]

Joel Davis: Yeah, [chuckling] I don’t know either, but I mean yeah, but that’s a literal literal paedophile, right? Kevin Spacey wasn’t it like the kid was like, 14 or something? I don’t know.

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I don’t know what the details were, but the point is he was accused of that, whatever he was doing with an underage person, but then he came out as gay and then everyone just dropped the accusation.

I don’t know if the accusation was dropped, but the media stopped reporting on it and I don’t know what happened. Was he found guilty? Were the accusations founded or not? I don’t know.

Everyone just shut up about it after he said he was gay, indicating that you can rape underage boys, apparently, so long as you’re gay, it’s okay!

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think it’s just incredible, though.

Blair Cottrell: Remember, we’re on YouTube. I’ll try to keep it tame.

Joel Davis: Well, I don’t think you said anything that was outside of TOS [Terms Of Service] there.

But I think when it comes to the procedure of liberal democracy, this really is an indictment of the entire process that a gay rapist or alleged gay rapist can still win because of name recognition or something.

Also, the Legalized Cannabis Party in New South Wales, I believe, got about 4% of the Upper House vote, which means they’ll probably have a Senator.

And obviously the vote just comes entirely from stoners.

[33:33]

I think after the Liberal, National coalition, Labour, the Greens and One Nation, they were the next most popular party in New South Wales.

So the stoner vote is able to win us a Senator under our election system, which, again, is another indictment of just how stupid the liberal Democratic system is and how illegitimate it’s results are.

Because it really kind of the whole point of the process is supposed to be that you have informed voters who understand the issues and make informed decisions about who they’re going to vote for.

And in this country, we have compulsory voting, which means you’re getting people, we’re asking the opinion of people who don’t even want to show up. But the kinds of people who would only vote to avoid a $55 fine but wouldn’t vote anyway, their opinion about who should run our government. I mean, surely those people shouldn’t. We should be actively discouraging them from showing up, if anything.

But, yeah, the entire procedure is fundamentally illegitimate because the average person has no means for actually understanding what is in the interest of the nation, what is in the interest of the state. In this particular instance in the New South Wales election because they’re low agency. They get their opinions from news media or social media in a low effort capacity.

Most people don’t have the capacity to critically think about the information that they receive, and most people don’t actually have a good value set in the first place. Even people don’t vote with the national interest in mind.

Like if you’re voting for the Dude Weed Party, you clearly don’t really care about what’s in Australia’s national interest. You just care about you have this vice of smoking marijuana and you want any restrictions to that vice to be removed. That’s really all you care about.

Blair Cottrell: Politics is the art of the possible, especially Parliamentary politics. It’s the art of the possible. It adjusts itself to the state that people are in. I don’t think it’s necessarily responsible for contributing to the state that people are in. I think the state that people get themselves into is probably the result of combination of ruthless marketing and capitalism exploiting their weaker nature to try to sell them junk they don’t need. Junk food, make them gamble, drink alcohol, take drugs, that kind of thing. Just that low impulse control. Society or community that has no religion, has no purpose, people have no purpose. Just go to work, spend your money on drugs, that kind of thing.

But then politics comes along and observes the situation and then adjusts itself to that situation. It’s the art of the possible, as I said. So politics is kind of just like Parliamentary party politics. It’s kind of taking on the form it needs to take on in order to appeal to these low quality people.

So I think politics, Parliamentarianism wouldn’t necessarily be the problem in and of itself. It’s just a symptom of cultural decay. The current state of Parliamentarianism anyway.

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Joel Davis: I’m muted. Yeah. No, I agree.

When people discuss the concept of democracy, the concept of democracy is supposed to mean, you know, ruled by the people, by the demos, the ancient Greek term where we derive democracy from, which basically means “the people”.

And this is fundamentally incompatible with the notion of multiculturalism. Because on the one hand, you’re saying people should rule, and on the other hand, just saying the people don’t exist, that we should have a society of different peoples, which have different values, different races, and that our “Diversity is Our Strength”. So diversity and democracy are kind of like fundamentally opposed to another, if you think about it, in one sense.

So, like, a true expression of a democracy would be a state like China, where in China they do have voting, but there’s only one party. They do have sub parties for local elections and so on. But it’s basically a one party state, though, at the top.

Blair Cottrell: How is that a true democracy, though, if you don’t have any other option?

Joel Davis: Well, because in China they actually know, they actually recognize that the party which is in control, that the Chinese people exist, and that the Chinese state is a representation of the Chinese people. So they say, well, China is, … If you listen to press releases from President Xi Jinping, he literally uses a term which translates to “the Chinese race”.

And actually the word in Chinese that means “race”, the word for “nation” and “race” is actually the same. I can’t pronounce it because I don’t speak Chinese.

Blair Cottrell: Well, “nation” doesn’t mean “race”, even in our language. It’s just being conflated. The word “nation” has been conflated with “country”.

So a lot of people these days, when they think of “nation’, they think of the Australian country or the European continent or some country within the European continent. But “nation” means “nationality”, which means “race”. It refers to a specific ethnic group. It doesn’t refer to a territorial space of land.

That’s why I always say when Napoleon was in power, French Emperor, after French Revolution, he used to refer to the “jewish nation” even though there was no Israel, because he’s talking about the jewish people, he’s talking about the jews, referring to them as the race that they are, you see?

And people need to get that in their head. They need to understand that the Australian nation isn’t a “place”, it’s a people. And that people is being denied it’s existence. It’s a nation deracinated that’s been under attack for quite some time.

But why is it under attack specifically? Is the Australian nation, is it being attacked deliberately by one person, one enemy? Or is it just the result of a group of a conglomerate of corporate greedy capitalists that just don’t want the nation to exist because it gets in the way of their profits? Or is it kind of a combination of deliberate hostile forces and greed? What do you think?

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Joel Davis: It’s definitely a combination.

I mean, if you look into the history of multiculturalism in Australia and how the White Australia policy was undermined, it was undermined by a coalition of ethnic groups, or who basically weren’t Anglo Celts.

So you have guys with Spanish ancestry, you have jews, you have other kind of more recent migrant groups that also contributed to the kind of forces within the Labour Party to undermine it’s pro-White Australia policies, forces within the immigration department as well. And it’s a very obvious strategy.

Like if you’re a jew, and you’re the odd man out, basically, because you live in a country that is 99% White, and you’re even less than 1% of the population. Like today, they’re only 0.4%, I think, of Australia’s population. That’s intimidating because you are an alien in this nation that has a strong identity, that knows who it is and you’re excluded from its sense of self.

And so what’s going to make you more comfortable is bringing in a bunch of other groups. So that you dilute any kind of unity in the body politic which could potentially exclude you. And then if you introduce enough other groups then new ways of forming political unity will have to occur which will bring in coalitions of different groups, or that will say:

“Group identities don’t matter. We have this other kind of civic nationalist identity.”

Or whatever the case may be. It creates a different political paradigm that you fit into better.

And so there’s a strong incentive for you to support that kind of thing. And we see it played out in the actual particular actors who are involved historically.

And then in addition to this, also from a capitalist standpoint, I mean, it’s very simple. You want to bring in cheap labour, like right now, immigration, what are the main forces driving it in Australia? The business lobby, the property lobby and so on. They’re pursuing their economic interests.

We discussed this, I think, in the first episode that we did. You bring in more migrant labour that increases the supply of labour to businesses and so then that brings down the cost of labour, that depresses wages.

And we have empirical studies that show that migration depresses wages. Because if it’s hard, if you advertise for a job, if you’re a business, and you need to get new workers in, and you put out ads and not many people call up, not many people come in to do interviews, then you start considering paying more to incentivize people to come in. Because maybe if you advertise the job at $30 an hour, no one comes for an interview.

But if you advertise it at $35 an hour people start actually responding to the advertisement. Basic economic incentive structures.

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There is a strong incentive, therefore, in the business community and so on, or in the property lobby. If you want the value of property to go up, we discussed this already. You bring in more migrants, there’s only a certain amount of houses now. More people are trying to live in those particular houses. And so if you put up a house for rent, people snap it up. People are willing to pay more.

Whereas if there’s a lot of houses for rent and you think one house looks a little too expensive to rent or buy, you pass on it and you go for another option. So it’s just basics of demand. You got to take that economic aspect into consideration. But that’s the thing. That economic aspect is unleashed in a nation when it’s identity is already undermined.

So Australian business leaders, 50, 60, 70 years ago when we were a homogeneous nation, they still had these same incentives. But a lot of them probably would have supported maintaining the White Australia policy anyway because they recognized who they were:

“I’m a White Australian and White Australia is good for me.”

Even if my particular business interest would be served by undermining it, they still have some kind of loyalty.

But now White Australia is so undermined and obliterated you can’t defend it in polite society. You can’t talk about what’s in White Australia’s interests in polite society.

In conventional politics, there’s no representation for it. And so people don’t even think in those terms. They just think purely in terms of their economic interests because they’re deracinated, kind of cosmopolitan individuals who that’s all they see themselves. As they don’t see themselves as a member of a national community like they once did.

So, yeah, the two forces definitely are interlinking here to create this.

Blair Cottrell: What’s next on the agenda?

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, obviously, a lot of people, everyone would have seen the mass shooting in the United States. It was a female to male transition, so to speak.

Blair Cottrell: Let me just say before we continue on that point, female to male transition, it doesn’t surprise me that a woman being injected with testosterone, the primary male androgen or primary male sex hormone, is going to lose her mind and open fire on children at a public school.

I mean, I’m sure there’s a range of different factors that pertain to this individual’s mental health, personal experiences, personal trauma, that kind of thing. I think we just lost Joel briefly, but I’m sure he’ll be back.

As I said, there’s probably a number of things that pertain to that individual.

However, you’re much more likely to get a psycho if you inject a woman with testosterone, than if you inject a man with estrogen. You inject a man with estrogen, what are you going to get? You’re going to get him to be more emotional, more passive, more agreeable, less likely to lash out, less likely to go against the grain, less likely to take risks.

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Basically, you’re producing the perfect proletariat peasant in the modern day. Which is probably why there’s estrogen in the tap water. And possibly in processed foods, microplastics. Haven’t seen all the data, but I’ve seen bits and pieces, and it’s pretty alarming.

So you put the prime male androgen into the body of a woman, what are you going to get? You’re going to get a woman who’s going to be behaving more like a man. But not like a man who has been raised to be a gentleman, who has been raised to understand and restrain himself, right.

Because as a man, that’s something that you learn when you’re a boy. You aren’t so restrained, and you tend to discover more often than not the hard way was like that for me, anyway. It’s important to restrain yourself and to not give in to your compulsives, compulsive nature. So it frightens me to think of what that could produce injecting testosterone into a woman, that’s frightening stuff.

But I don’t know what Joel is doing. Joel drives these streams, as you guys know, and I kind of just provide backup commentary. And I’ve been abandoned, so now I’m running this thing on my own. But we’ll get into that school shooting, which happened in Nashville, America, and I posted about it because I saw the police footage and I posted it to my public Telegram channel. I was surprised that the police released body cam footage of them shooting the character responsible for this atrocity. And it is an atrocious thing to murder children. This is children that weren’t even known to this person.

And I’m not usually the person, the sort of guy who gets into:

“Oh, this is so horrible. Good, goy, gosh. Let’s all feel sorry for someone.”

But kid killing really doesn’t sit well with me. It shouldn’t really sit well with anybody, right? Obviously. But I am surprised that the police release this footage, and I don’t know what to think of that.

As always, whenever something like this happens and the footage of the shooting or the incident is made public, someone out there is going to say:

“It’s fake, it’s not real.”

Seems real to me, but it could be fake. I don’t know. And that’s a good way to go into everything like this. When you see stuff like this, it’s good to believe nothing. It’s good to entertain the possibility, any possibility. This could be real, this could be fake, but not actually to invest in either of those possibilities.

But my general take on this was that transgenders don’t exist. And that the people that we present as transgenders, the people who are constantly exposed these days as transgenders, and this lifestyle of transgenderism, it’s false!

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All transgenders are are transvestites. And a transvestite was traditionally understood as somebody who enjoyed dressing up like a member of the other sex. I’m not going to get into the reasons why they might do that. I personally don’t understand. Some sort of fetish, I suppose.

So when you look at what transgenders are actually doing, that’s all they’re doing. At the end of the day, they’re just transvestites! They are not members of the other gender or sex. They’re just acting like they are, and dressing up as though they are. And a lot of the time they’re encouraged by modern Medicine, psychologists and modern culture to actually believe that they’re a member of the other sex. And that is delusional! Not only is it delusional, but it’s dangerous.

And it’s about time it’s understood by ordinary person that these people aren’t just delusional, they are dangerous. And this shooting in Nashville should demonstrate that more clearly than anything I can say to you.

One of the reasons these people are so dangerous is because they’re generally addicted to a plethora of drugs. The first thing that happens when you go through this gender transition lifestyle, especially if it happens to you young, if you’ve got the kind of parents that are going to, or parent – usually a single lesbian mother – that’s going to put you through that kind of stuff as a child, then the first thing you’re going to be exposed to is some sort of hormone replacement therapy, usually hormone blockers. They block you from your natural puberty process.

I know this because there’s young kids in my family, teenagers in my family, and some of them have friends, and a couple of their friends have actually been through this and are currently going through this. It’s more common than you might think.

Surprisingly common. I don’t want to say it’s very common, like, it’s not something that’s happening frequently enough in order to justify the amount of exposure this so-called transgenderism gets these days, but it’s still happening more often than it used to.

And I think that’s because it is more widely facilitated and encouraged by popular culture. And those single lesbian mums that probably would have had their children taken off them 30 or 40 years ago are now legitimized, encouraged. Their theories about their children being a different gender are legitimized by the state and by the culture at large.

So first you start off on those puby blockers, and then you’ve got depression and bipolar and ADHD and probably something else as well.

And so then you got medication for all those different things. And those medications don’t work, so then they flip them over and try to give you different medications. And those medications are causing you mood problems, so then they also prescribe you mood stabilizers. But then you’re also depressed, so then you’ve got antidepressants, but then the antidepressants kill your sex drive and you can’t really feel aroused by anything anymore. You feel like an empty shell of a human being.

So they have to give you a different drug to try to stimulate your sexual desire. This is normal, common practice, not just for transgenders, but for most children these days. Not most children, but a lot of children. A lot of children that go down the path of I’m bipolar or I’m abd. You’re really just opening yourself up to a range of different prescription medications, which are extremely addictive and destructive.

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And the reason these transgenders, as I said, they’re not really transgender, they’re transvestites. But the reason they’re so dangerous is, from what I’m explaining right now, they’re drug addicts! And they’ve been drug addicts since they were kids, a lot of them. They’ve been through a great deal of trauma and they’ve had their minds twisted, mostly as a result of their daily prescription drug habit! And it’s mostly prescription drugs.

They’ll usually experiment with narcotics as well. And by narcotics, I mean street drugs, actually, ice or crystal methamphetamine came from the gay community in Melbourne. That’s how it first started in Melbourne.

Anyway, I don’t know where it came from in the rest of the world, but the first people to be cooking it, using it, were members of the gay community because it made them hypersexual and they could stay awake for days at a time having sex with each other.

It was a big problem around the year 1995. From there to about 2005, there was a ten year block there where the government made some sort of initiative to try to get these homosexuals, these gay people, to stop using Ice because it was that bad. They would drive around in vans, pick each other up, drop each other off, spread around AIDS and smoke crystal meth and have sex with each other for days on end.

But anyway, there’s a similar story which can validate or further verify the point that I’m making, that not only are these people deranged, but they’re dangerous! Not only that, but pushing this sort of lifestyle or accepting this kind of lifestyle of drugs and sex obsession and transvestite or transgenderism, pushing that onto people not just onto people, but onto children, I think that’s a crime against humanity! I think that’s a repulsive crime against humanity!

And you can’t have a culture that’s trying to normalize and promote the acceptance of that kind of thing without having the hard extreme, which I’m going to represent now.

And the hard extreme is that shit is a repulsive crime against humanity! I’m not shifting on that. I’m not budging on that! It’s sick, it’s twisted, and it needs to be called out! It needs to be rejected at large, in public, in the workplace, on the street, in the public gyms, all the time by everyone! It needs to be called out for the sick and twisted lifestyle that it is.

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But my colleague here, Tim, he reminded me to bring this up. Because in Australia, and I’m going to send this to you, Joel. Maybe you might be able to bring this up on the screen for me, if that’s not too much to ask. I once brought this up in a stream with Mark Collett on this subject as well, because this happened in Australia. I just sent you the link on Telegram, Joel.

This was a former government employee. I think it was a male to female transgender woman, Evie Amati [sp]. Okay, this article is from 2019, but I’m not sure if that’s when it happened. No, it happened before 2019, but something else has happened. I think this person’s, like, re-transition inside prison now or something.

But the story goes:

“Former government employee decides they’re going to be transgender. Goes to Thailand, gets the sex change surgery. It goes horribly wrong.”

And by horribly wrong, I mean when they’re removing this guy’s penis and trying to dig a makeshift vagina, they dig into the anal cavity by mistake. They try to stitch it up, but they don’t do a good enough job. So that when this person tries to go to the bathroom, they’re literally excreting feces into their makeshift, medically dug vagina, producing infection, producing rot and death of the flesh inside this person’s would be genitals. Excruciating pain. Right? More drugs, more trauma for this individual. Can’t handle it. Can’t handle the fact that this transgender surgery, this person wanted so bad, this former government employee from Sydney, local government, I think worked for local council.

So what does he or she or it do? Goes down to a local 7/11 with an axe and a knife in its back pocket. Hits a man in the face, a random man they don’t know, in the face with an axe. Hits another woman who was just another bystander with the axe as well, before disappearing into the night. Okay.

And this is Australia. Did you hear about this? If you’re in Australia, did, you know, about this? Maybe not. It was kind of something that just got slipped under the rug and nobody really asked questions about how a normal child, or a normal human being ends up doing this. What’s the trajectory? What’s the lifestyle? A series of lifestyle choices that get made in order to bring a person to this extreme?

I’m going to tell you, it’s transitioning or believing one can transition into another gender and then taking all the drugs that are given to you by psychologists, psychiatrists, and doctors promising you that you can transition. You can’t transition! You’re just a transvestite! You’re into weird shit such as dressing up like member of the other sex. And that’s where you have to draw the line. You’re not actually a member of the other sex, and no amount of drugs or surgery is going to get you there. That’s just reality. You’re born as you are, and you deal with it.

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This person couldn’t deal with it, and so they became an axe murderer. The person over in Nashville couldn’t deal with it, so they became a child killer, shooting children they didn’t know in a public Christian school.

Obviously, I’m appalled. I’ll just wrap it up. I’m appalled by the fact that no one’s connecting the dots. That little old me, a working class guy down in the suburbs with a YouTube account and a shitty camera and laptop, has got to try to point this out to people, because no one on that television has their guts to tell the truth that I’m telling you right now! Not Andrew Bolt, not all those so-called Conservatives. Not Pauline Hanson. No one will say it because it’ll all be cancelled and they’ll lose their comfortable Minister’s chair or place on what do they call it? Position on Sky News, comfortably sponsored by Qantas.

These people, all they care about is maintaining their salary, keeping the money flowing in, keeping their fifth car in the shed and not making waves. It’s a joke, man! It’s sick. It’s twisted. It’s a selfish culture! But I suppose that’s why we run this show, to do the best to get the truth out there to people.

Joel Davis: The response to this was really interesting. Because apparently the original news reporting of the mass shooting referred to the individual, the shooter, as a transgender man, or a transgender woman, or just said the wrong particular terminology. So then there was this big uproar that they “misgendered the killer”, and so they had to issue an apology for misgendering this murderer.

Blair Cottrell: What, misgendering a kid killer? They didn’t call the kid killer what the kid killer wanted to be called, so they had to apologize!

Joel Davis: Yeah.

And then there were all these calls saying:

“Oh, we can’t be using this. This is just a lone, crazy person. This has nothing to do with transgenderism. They’re just they’re just acting out!”

Now, if they were a White person, if they were, like, a White nationalist or something, and they engaged in a heinous act like this, then it would be all about their ideology. Right? Let’s say the person did the act, and it didn’t actually have anything to do with the ideology, but they grabbed their computer and saw that they used to post on 4Chan or something, that would make it all about White nationalist terrorism!

Blair Cottrell: You can use a recent example in Australia. Look at the Train family incident, where those police officers were shot by a couple of people out in the Woods who were into conspiracies and thought the police were coming there to murder them. It took a couple of months, but that got declared a “Christian terror attack”. How the hell is that a Christian terror attack? And who came to that conclusion and as a result of what?

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A couple of people out in the bush get a bit paranoid and open fire on cops? That’s a “Christian terror attack”. But you got transvestites killing people at random. It doesn’t just happen once. As I just explained, there’s other cases around the world, but it’s all hushed up and struck under the rug, but no dots are ever connected, and no one ever says:

“Oh, hang on, there’s a problem here. There’s a problem with this community. There’s a problem with the kind of drugs these people are on. We need to look into this.”

You’re right. There’s plenty of examples, and it’s pretty much impossible to deny.

Joel Davis: Yeah, that was the wrong this one. Yeah.

So this tweet here I thought was really encapsulates it. I don’t know who this Chris Murphy guy is. Some US Senator from Connecticut:

“Some of the things being said about trans people on this platform tonight are so vile.”

And so this guy Lefty Crypto:

“Rest in peace, Norm McDonald.”

I don’t know if, you know, who Norm McDonald is, Blair, but he was a comedian, a really good one, probably one of the greatest comedians of all time, in my opinion. He died, I think, in 2021. It was a couple of years back that he passed away. But he’s a legend, and he was kind of a conservative, Right-wing kind of guy doing comedy. So great comedian. Love his stuff. If you don’t know about Norm McDonald, you got to go do some research and watch some of the classic Norm McDonald videos on YouTube.

But anyway, this classic tweet from Norm McDonald back during the, you know, when ISIS was terrorizing and, you know, Muslim terrorism was the the biggest deal. This is, I don’t know, 2016, 2015 or something. He tweeted this:

“What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims?”

And that’s basically the same situation as the Left today about this. It’s like:

“Don’t worry about the the Christian children who were murdered by this deranged transsexual. Worry about the poor trans people and how people are going to be more transphobic now because their kids have been murdered by one of these freaks!”

And there’s been so many. I’ve seen, like, people posting screenshots of Instagram posts, tweets, et cetera, from trans accounts celebrating the attack and saying, basically praising it, threatening to do more. That basically the transgender movement. There’s a radicalized portion of it that basically sees it’s existence as predicated upon the destruction of Christianity because it creates a value set that runs contrary to their ideology or whatever. And that rationalizes this kind of terrorism.

There’s going to be, I predict, unfortunately, there’s going to be more of this kind of thing. This is only the beginning.

Blair Cottrell: I hope not.

Joel Davis: This is downstream from the rhetoric. I saw the rhetoric start to pop up online about six months ago of describing trans-gendocide, because you have Conservatives in the United States, like Matt Walsh is one, and a few others, who are starting to push back kind of hard on the trans thing.

Matt Walsh cucks on Zionism because he gets paid by Ben Shapiro and won’t touch the Jewish question, but he goes hard on the trans thing because that’s within the Overton Window and a few others.

And so they started pushing hard.

And then the kind of trans defenders, they started describing it as a trans-genocide because they said:

“Oh, because you guys want to get rid of all trans people.”

Basically, people like Matt Walsh want them to transition back into what they actually are, want them to accept their real gender. But basically they say:

“This is a genocide because you want to wipe out an entire group of people.”

And so when they start using this kind of rhetoric like genocide, then it then creates a kind of radical response, which is people say:

“Well, I’m being genocided. I’ve got to go and kill the people genociding me! It’s a fight to the death, either us or them!”

And so this is a product of Left wing ideological kind of radicalization.

And so the media, the Left, all of them have blood on their hands for what’s happened in the situation based upon how they’ve been framing this issue for years.

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Blair Cottrell: I don’t think they care. It’s Christian children and Christian people being shot, so they don’t care. They’re probably secretly happy about it.

Joel Davis: Of course. But it’s important to point this out because there’s a striking parallel with how they try to frame White nationalism. When they do it, it’s fine when we have an ideology. Our ideology isn’t anti-nature. Our ideology isn’t predicated upon mental illness. Our ideology is predicated upon we want to have our own country k. I mean, it’s such a basic demand. But apparently we are genocidal terrorists. While they genocide us. A real genocide, which is the destruction of the White race. But trying to treat the mental illness of trans people. This is the real genocide and this is totally justified. It’s crazy! It’s crazy. But it’s important to engage in the kind of wider discourse around this issue.

Another thing that I wanted to bring up, I saw people pushing like these conspiracy boomer conservative types trying to say this was a false flag. And the evidence that they put forward for this was on one of the CCTV Angles. Like the shoes look kind of different, but then when you kind of analyze it, it makes sense. It’s just like a highly pixelated camera and the light shining off the shoe in a certain way to look like it had a different design. But actually when you analyze the shoe, you can see that it’s the same shoe.

But anyway, this disinformation was all over Twitter. I saw millions and millions of hits on some of these conspiracy tweets. And it kind of raised, I think, an important analysis of sometimes the way that kind of pseudo conspiracy disinformation can be used to muddy the waters around issues like this. When a narrative is forming that the powers that be don’t like. Because it kind of just completely distracts you and it makes you go down dark alleys of like:

“Oh, was this a false flag?”

Like, no, it was just a crazy transgender person killing young Christian children because they were radicalized into an extreme Left wing ideology. That’s what it was. But they don’t want you to think that they want you to think it’s like a false flag attack by the government trying to, I don’t know, create a pretext for gun control or something.

And I think it’s a good example of how obviously some conspiracy theorized thing is legitimate. When you talk about 9/11, or various other issues which where there genuinely was a conspiracy. But even in those instances you see this with 9/11 conspiracy theories where the real evidence based kind of criticism of the official narrative is kind of conflated and muddied with all of these crazy ideas about how the planes were holograms.

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Blair Cottrell: I’ve noticed that Hollywood does that in order to discredit a theory contradicting or claiming that there’s a conspiracy within government or the official narrative. They make fun of it by making it seem ridiculous. Like you’re talking about there. Like they’ll take something that probably is a conspiracy and probably is a cover up and they’ll put something into it, like:

“Oh, it’s the lizard people!”

Or it’s like the hollow Earth and stuff like that. And they’ll push it beyond the point where it’s believable for the average person or the average skeptic.

So then everyone kind of ends up or their aim is to get everyone to just disregard it as:

“Oh yeah, that’s just too crazy for me. That’s obviously not a conspiracy theory anymore.”

Right. I’ve noticed they do that in Hollywood. And they’ll do it with a popular Hollywood film, with Netflix movies and stuff. They’ll bring up something like, you and McGregor did it in Train Spotting 2. He was like giving a speech about all these different worldly affairs. And he said something like:

“And 9/11 never happened, and if it did, it was the jews!”

But he said it in such a way where it sounded so ridiculous. Who would possibly believe that, right?

So you’re supposed to listen to the him say that and roll your eyes and go:

“Oh yeah, just another conspiracy theory.”

There’s many examples of that with Hollywood flicks, I’ve noticed. The discrediting or downplaying legitimate theories and conspiracies by making them seem ridiculous.

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Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I think that’s an important point. I think we saw this during Covid where there was like legitimately, there was a legitimate elite coordination for many elements of the overall Covid policy.

But then the zone of online discourse was flooded with some of the most insane stuff that was designed to kind of confuse people and get people arguing over silly, kind of going down these kind of side tracks into silly territories to get people away from dealing with the fundamental issue, to divide the people into opposing camps and so on.

And this is the thing, prior to the Internet kind of being the main way in which people receive their news, the powers of be were able to control the discourse through controlling the conventional mainstream media. They can’t do that anymore. So now to control the discourse, the easiest way to do it is to flood the information zone with so much disinformation that no uniform opposition narratives can emerge that’s coherent.

So something that you have to be kind of on watch for in general. And you see this, I think, with Alex Jones is a great example of this. He talks about the JFK assassination, he talks about 9/11, but he doesn’t talk about jewish involvement, he doesn’t talk about Israel. He talks about all this other stuff and just fills up the theory with all of this other nonsense to get you away from actually locking target upon the real culprits.

Blair Cottrell: A good way to navigate through that is to try not to get caught up in petty stuff and abstract sort of a theory, and always consider essentials fundamentals. Try to see the fundamental point that someone’s trying to make, and if what they’re doing kind of seems hearsay, or it’s based on a theory that’s just sprung out of their own brain and it’s taking you away from the fundamental point that you’re already trying to understand, that might be a good way to navigate that.

I tend to look for essential fundamental points. If I don’t see one, or I don’t see what someone’s saying ties back into an existing one that I’ve already kind of formed an understanding on, then I don’t really listen because it’s only going to conflate and confuse my understanding of what’s happening. So focus on fundamentals.

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think that’s important. And just be aware, because a lot of people who are in our thing, they think outside the box. So they don’t trust the government, they don’t trust the establishment for good reason.

And so they’re inclined to engage in speculation about there being nefarious and conspiratorial elements to the political process and to underlying key events. And that is legitimate. Obviously, it is legitimate to engage in this kind of speculation, theorizing, and so on, because there are conspiracies and the mainstream media does lie to you. But it’s important to take care, to think, well, just because someone appears to be anti-mainstream doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily my friend.

The intelligence services, there’s records that show this. They literally pose as conspiracy theorists to push disinfo, or they make memes and push disinfo online to undermine the kind of alternative viewpoint to make it seem crazy, make it seem ridiculous so that it alienates people who run up against establishment narratives.

But yeah.

Is there anything else you wanted to say about the trans issue?

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Blair Cottrell: I had a good talk on that while you cut away for a bit there. I’m happy for you to keep streaming if you want, but is there any Superchats or comments that you want to hit? Because I’ve been pretty sick today, man, and I’m probably going to check out shortly because my guts still aren’t right. Need to sleep, recover. Is there any chats or anything to go through like that?

Joel Davis: Yeah, let me read. So I’ll look on Powerchat live. I believe there was one that I forgot to read out last week. So I’ll read that one out first. Just going to pull it up.

So this is from Dom S. He said:

“Are the occult practices of the global elites just larps brought on from boredom, or do they have access to information that normies don’t? Did Epstein really just have a temple to impress his pedo buddies, or is there something more at play here?”

What’s your take on this, Blair?

Blair Cottrell: I was just going through some comments of my own in my DM sorry, what was that one again? Just summarize that for me.

Joel Davis: I’ll read it again:

“Are the occult practices of the global elites just larps brought on from boredom? Or do they have access to information that normies, don’t? Did Epstein really have a temple just to impress his pedo buddies, or is there something more at play here?”

Blair Cottrell: Well, to me, the temple and that island, Epstein Island, it’s entirely possible.

But as I said previously, it’s important to approach these things with, or based on the presumption that you’re not sure of what the truth is so you entertain the possibility or any possibility that you come across, but you don’t necessarily believe or emotionally invest yourself into any of those possibilities, right? You need to be able to do that if you’re going to be someone of above average intelligence anyway, or able to just analyze things objectively.

But if you look at the Epstein Islander story, I’m not going to get into all the details because we’re on YouTube, but it serves a practical purpose, because if you can get these very influential, … What you want to do, right, if you’re a subversive, you’re looking to gain influence in a country that you don’t belong to. It’s not your country, it’s not your nation.

What you want to do is you want to engage people who are in that nation who are already very influential, people that make movies, people that host popular radio shows, people that work in banks, people that own schools and churches and stuff like that. And you want to look for those sorts of people who kind of have big egos. The kind of people where you tell them they’re really good and really smart and you can see it, they lap it up. Also, people who are a little bit naive, the sort of people who will kind of believe anything, believe in ideas of their own greatness ego and naivety, right?

[1:16:39]

So you identify those people and then you kind of rope them into your club or you help to bring them under your influence. And the Epstein Island thing, it serves practical purpose for someone trying to gain influence over members of specific nations, influential members of nations, actors, politicians, movie makers and so forth. Because once you get these people in some sort of sex club where they’re engaging in illegal sexual activities, when you’ve got them by blackmail, they basically have to stay true to your club and they have to bite their tongues about what’s really going on and what powers or influences they might really serve, because it can be made known to everybody what they’ve done on that island. Right?

So it’s a practical blackmail method. It’s a very ruthless one, but it’s effective! And it would be effective if it was true, right?

So that’s the way I look at it. I’m like, well, what practical purpose would that serve? Does it have a practical purpose? Usually if there’s some sort of conspiracy or theory or some sort of information like that going around, you got to ask yourself like:

“Well, is that practical? Who stands to benefit from that? Does someone stand to benefit and how do they stand to benefit? Is it in a big way?”

If it is, then the theory is probably true, or you have more reason to suspect that it might be true.

I went on a bit of a tangent there, but that’s my overall take. What do you think, Joel?

Joel Davis: I do believe that demonic possession and this kind of thing is real. Based upon my personal experiences. And just thinking about motivations for some of the most, like, dark and depraved and heinous things that people do. I think, that can only really be explained by nefarious forces within the unconscious mind, within the subconscious mind and so on, kind of impacting people.

Exactly what metaphysics you want to use to explain that? I’m not going to go into some speculative theory there. I don’t really understand. I don’t really have, like, a fully formed view of this type of stuff. And if I go into what I do think about it metaphysically, people are going to get bored and they’re going to log off because, …

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Blair Cottrell: I’ll provide an example for what you’re talking about. You go to a suburban train station in Australia and what are you going to see? You’re going to see obnoxious people, semi-homeless, using a combination of drugs, and they might yell out to you, they might jump in front of you, they might try to get your attention. They might try to rattle you somehow when you walk past these people.

And why do they do that? Well, I’ve always seen these people as “imp spirits”. And what’s an imp spirit? An imp is kind of like a sprite, or a low level demon that just wants to cause trouble. They’ll harm you if they can, but that’s not really what they want. They mostly just want to get a rise out of you or they want to cause trouble. Because you got to ask yourself what would compel a human being to just try to annoy another human being they don’t even know or try to get a rise out of them or to try to anger them. Right. That’s kind of like it’s unnatural behaviour.

And these people who do a lot of drinking, take a lot of drugs and don’t really care about anything in life that sort of exposure to drugs and alcohol, it’s entirely possible that it opens up their spirit to being occupied by something, some other worldly force. And I think drugs can do that it’s entirely possible. Like I said, I don’t really believe in anything. This is just a passing thought and theory that’s occurred to me.

But when I’ve observed objectively the behaviour of these drug addicts at train stations, I can’t think of anything but little imp, sprite spirits jumping around trying to annoy and piss everybody off!

And obviously there’s different types of demons. Probably some are much more dangerous and twisted than others. The imps are probably less dangerous, and you don’t need to worry about them so much. They’re more just annoying. But that’s just one example of what you’re talking about, I guess.

Joel Davis: Yeah, but I think when thinking about the what could naturally compel someone to rape three year old children or whatever? It doesn’t really make sense to me without thinking in terms of like, demonic possession or these people who are getting their dicks chopped off and dressing up as women and so on. It’s just so hard to empathize with any kind of organic, physiological, conventional explanation for any of this stuff.

Additionally, if you study the occult, or if you study Talmudic Judaism, you will find they engage in all kinds of crazy and kooky rituals, sacrifices. They try to communicate with entities. Whether you believe those entities exist or not. These people believe that they exist, and they do rituals to try and interact with them in various ways. And this is actually a human universal. Like atheism is a very modern invention. Pretty much all cultures ever have notions of spirits of entities that they interact with through various rituals. That’s true. It’s a universal human truth, only kind of modern secular society doesn’t believe in that stuff. It’s a very new thing.

So the question is, why did human beings believe it for hundreds of thousands of years?

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Blair Cottrell: Sorry, I wouldn’t say that most people don’t believe it. Most people just don’t understand it. And I myself don’t understand it. Because I don’t think if these things do exist, I don’t think they exist on our plane. They don’t exist in the way we exist, and therefore we don’t understand them. It’s difficult for us to understand them. It’s probably a more accurate way to explain it, but not necessarily. People don’t spend their days thinking about demons and otherworldly spirits. Right? But I don’t think it’s because they don’t believe it. It’s just that it’s not understandable to them.

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think there’s more to the temples and the occult practices and so on of elites than simply they’re just pedos. And it’s all a larp.

And also, I think people use the kind of ritual iconography and the ritual practices and so on to activate the sense of mystique in people, to manipulate them as well.

So I think that’s definitely an element think about. Like the Freemasons and so on, and how all the kind of, … If you research Freemasonry and all the rituals that you do to go through the phases and so on, it’s about creating mystique. It’s about creating this sense that there is some secret knowledge that they hold and some access to some secret force that they have, which you don’t. And you need to kind of essentially be psychologically manipulated and subordinated to these people in order to kind of gain access to that power and that knowledge.

And I think that’s a key kind of underlying component to elite organizations.

Blair Cottrell: They protect not knowledge itself, but interpretations of reality.

For example, the Freemason understanding of language is a method for conforming the external world to one’s inner will. What that means is when you speak words, you don’t speak words because those words express what you feel or because you’re trying to effectively communicate with somebody. Barter, trade. You’re speaking to reach an outcome that you desire. You’re trying to get produce a result in the other people around you and consequently, in the world around you. You’re trying to conform the external world to your inner will with the words you speak.

What I mean is, you have to understand that the Freemasons think of words as magic and as spells, and it’s woven into our culture, actually. And this is a subject I’ll talk about in great detail in one of my own streams, because it’s something that is extremely fascinating. Words have a magical effect on people because they change our perspective of reality and they can shape how we understand things.

[1:25:33]

Even the language that we understand has places certain limitations and boundaries on how well we can understand things. Which is why they say, control the language, control the people, right?

But to demonstrate how words might have magical effect. If you watching this now, just are in a quiet place and you’re clear of any distractions. And I was to say to you:

“Crystal clear lake, rippling like blue velvet, behind which green grassy hills, and on the lake in front of you, a white duck.”

Now, if you’re paying attention, images are appearing in your mind of a lake, green hills and a duck. But all I’m doing is spitting noise from behind my teeth. I’m just humming and aahing and spitting noise out. And that’s causing you to think of images in your head. And that, my friends, is an example of magic. And magic has many different expressions and forms.

But as I said, it’s woven into our culture. And an example of that is when you are summoned to appear before a magistrate, right? That’s how we a magistrate is low level of court in Australia, and a magistrate is a lower level judge. The magistrates wear their robes and they summon you to appear. And what they do, the way they see it from their perspective, is they mail out a piece of paper with some symbols and shapes on it. And that official little stamp of theirs. That goes to your letterbox, and it says that you must go to that location, that courthouse, on that date and time. You must appear before them on that date and time.

So all they do is wiggle that little series of symbols on the paper and whizz that paper away into the ether. And then on that date and time, as if by magic, you appear before them, right? Because you understand the language, you respect the power, whatever it is, you can explain it however you want. But the way they see it is as if by magic, you’ve appeared before them. That’s why we spell words with letters. Words are spelled, they are spells.

And that’s how it’s understood by certain classes of people like the Freemasons. That’s why you need to understand they don’t speak because they’re trying to explain something to you. They’re speaking to try to get you to think what they want you to think. They’re speaking to try to get you to see what they want you to see. That’s why they’re speaking. It’s for a purpose, to get what they want from you! That’s how they’re trained. That’s how they train each other.

I’ll get into other various forms of magic. Like in one of my own streams. Like I said, this fascinates me personally. We’ve taken that Superchat comment on a deep rabbit hole.

[1:28:34]

Joel Davis: But this gets into a lot of what we do is just looking at the news, looking at the way in which information is presented about politics with critical eyes and then analyzing, kind of like deconstructing it and imposing a new way of thinking about it. This is a good example here. Follow this account by the way, Patrick Basteman, a friend of mine from Twitter. He’s not an Australian, but I think he spent some time here because he seems to be sympathetic to Australian issues and posts about them frequently. I think he might be an American, though.

Anyway, he said:

“I love how they use two White nurses to illustrate this 650,000 Chinese and Indians..”

And so here’s the Daily Mail. Australia:

“Australia to be hit by record population explosion, blah, blah, blah.”

And then look at the images they use. These are two White nurses because:

“There’s a skill shortage!”

So we need to bring in White nurses like this. Now, if we’re bringing in White nurses from the UK, okay, this would be accurate. But we know that that’s not actually what this is about, whatsoever.

And so it’s another example of just kind of like subtle ways they present things to make ideas kind of seem different than what they really are. And so much of what we do is just simply calling out this bullshit and asserting a different narrative, a different framing and maintaining a critical and piercing stance towards these issues so that a consciousness can be maintained in the community, in our society which can stand against these forces that are constantly trying to reframe words.

We talked about the word “nation” earlier and then we got distracted. But we were talking about the word “nation” earlier and how the word nation traditionally meant the same thing essentially as race. People would talk of the “British race” and the “British nation” in one and the same with one kind of one in the same sense as one another. I talked about how in Chinese the word is the same. I think “minzu”, I don’t know if I’m pronouncing it correctly is the word that I think refers to nation and race in the Chinese language.

But how in English “nation” now nation basically means a bunch of people in a territory that are citizens to the same government. It doesn’t mean “a people”.

And this is completely contrary to what nation traditionally meant because it traditionally meant came from the Latin term “natio”, meaning of the same birth, similar root word to a word like “natal” or the word “natural”.

And you can see this in Herodotus. Herodotus was an ancient Greek historian and he covered the wars with the Persians.

And so in ancient Greece, there wasn’t like one Greek empire. You had the Athenians, you had the Spartans and various other city states that had their own militaries. And when they they had rivalries, like, they would go to war with each other all the time. But when they had to kind of unite to fight the Spartans. Herodotus talks about this, about what was rationale uniting against the Spartans. And you can find directly in Herodotus an explanation that we are all of the Greek nation. They said:

“We all have the same religion, we are of the same birth, we are brothers and cousins. And so our people, our way of life, we must unite to defend against these foreigners, the Persians.”

[1:32:18]

And so you see this ancient form of nationalism that has nothing to do with the form that the state takes, which shows that the nation exists independently of the state. You can have many states to one nation, or you can have one state with many nations within it.

And so, yeah, the way that this word is perverted. We talked about the way that the word “democracy” is perverted. How? Now, democracy, when people talk about our democracy, particularly, you hear this in American political discourse, what they usually mean by “our democracy” is diversity, basically, gay marriage, anti-racism everyone human rights, so to speak. Diversity and inclusion. This is what our democracy apparently means.

But that’s not what democracy actually means at all. You can go back to the ancients, to Aristotle, to St. Thomas Aquinas and so on.

They all understood that when you have foreigners in your country, they don’t have loyalty to your nation, and so they shouldn’t be included in the political process. So diversity and inclusion are anti-democratic, including people who aren’t of you, prevents the capacity for your people to rule themselves.

And that’s why the elites, whoever they may be, import them. Because it dilutes our power. And now that’s why they describe, quote, unquote:

“Populism”

I talked about this before, but why they described quote, unquote:

“populism”

as a threat to “democracy”. What is populism? It’s just the people exercising their will, basically being appealed to directly by elites, by political leaders, without basically adhering to the ideology of elite institutions.

So when someone stands up there and goes against the consensus on immigration, on gay rights, on climate change, blah, blah, blah, that’s called “populism”, because they aren’t doing what the universities and the media, they don’t say what the universities and the media and so on want them to say. But isn’t that democracy? Isn’t appealing to isn’t populism what democracy would really be?

So, you know, in light of this, like looking at things like, as I mentioned, the Chinese, which are called the anti-democratic authoritarian regime, they’re more Democratic than us. They’re not perfect. I’m not endorsing everything about Chinese system, but it’s more Democratic than our system, because at least they. Have a concept of who the Chinese people are the Third Reich is way more Democratic. That’s a real expression of democracy. This idea of the volk and their interests, their struggle being definitive of the state and what the state is supposed to stand for, that’s Democratic.

That’s real democracy, as opposed to everyone gets to vote. And we’re going to get a bunch of gives votes to stoners who are only voting because they’re going to get fined $100 if they don’t show up, and then they cast a vote for the Dude Weed Party. That’s not democracy, that’s retarded!

[1:35:30]

So, yeah, anyway, I see Blair had to kind of duck off, so I might as well also kind of bring the stream to a close. No one sent any Superchats, so there’s nothing really to read out. I hope you enjoyed the show.

If you aren’t subscribed, subscribe, hit the subscribe button right now, please, because we want to build this channel up. It will really help us out if you subscribe. If you share the link around, particularly when we go live next week and so on, to help us build up this YouTube, because obviously we’re just starting out on YouTube and it’d be nice to be able to make the most of this. Because if we’re on this platform, we can reach new audiences. That being on Odyssey and Cozy and so on, we’re kind of preaching to the choir. You’re only on there if you already kind of know us.

And also, by the way, I’m going to stream on my YouTube channel, joeldavis is one word, is in my YouTube channel on Monday, Australian time, probably in the afternoon, early afternoon perhaps. So watch out for that. I’ll be streaming live and obviously we’re back here Thursday night next week.

So, yeah, I’ll check just in case anyone sent a late Superchat. I don’t want to miss anyone. We read earlier was actually from last week. So it says here from Cody’s Cigar:

“Blair, you get me all fired up talking about transsexual degenerates. People need to be angry about this.

So thank you. And Joel also, thank you..”

Cheers. I will say about the trans issue, it is obviously 100% legitimate to go hard on the trans issue. It is a serious issue. But I do feel as though we have to also point out that it’s one issue where Conservatives feel safe to go hard. They go hard on the trans issue because it’s still within the Overton window to go hard on the trans issue for now.

But they won’t touch gay marriage, they won’t touch immigration, they won’t touch Zionists occupy our government. They won’t touch these things. Because number one, they’re getting paid by Zionists and they don’t want the media to attack them, getting paid by business lobby groups that want more immigration.

All these Right-wing parties are filled with homosexuals, so they won’t touch those issues. But they’ll touch the trans issue. And we deserve more. Like, Latham earlier, he said this one base thing in response to someone that was, quote, unquote:

“Homophobic.”

Or whatever, but it’s like, okay, but you’re still filling your party with brown people. You’re still basically signing on to filling our country with brown people. It’s not good enough!

[1:38:21]

So we have to make sure that we maintain that framing and recognize what issues are safe, what issues aren’t safe, and hold the feet to the fire on the stuff they won’t talk about. And yeah, criticizing, I think criticizing One Nation, if you’re a nationalist movement in Australia, is I think, … That’s why I always post about them on Telegram, and we cover stuff they do on the show all the time whenever they say anything that I don’t like. Because criticizing One Nation is vital to a nationalist in Australia, because One Nation is supposed to be the kind of conventional mainstream representation of:

“If you’re a nationalist, this is what you have to support.”

Obviously, it’s complete bullshit! Right? It’s not real nationalism by any stretch of the imagination. That’s why it needs to be attacked. Because the people who do feel sympathetic towards One Nation in the community, those are the people that could be on our side. And so providing a Right-wing critique of One Nation is so important to present to the One Nation’s base, to kind of bring them into a more radical position.

So that’s why, even though it might get a bit boring for some of you, that’s why we have to keep hammering One Nation, week in, week out and turn the pressure up to the maximum.

But yeah, anyway, hope you guys enjoyed the show. Thanks for tuning in and we’ll see you next week.

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@whatda7705
3 weeks ago
How can you not love these guys. Great show. Greetings from Germany
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@anniew4105
3 weeks ago
Great stream Joel & Blair! Have you ever done a deep dive into the compulsory voting? To me, it seems very obvious that it’s a way to keep our people out of power.
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@proudone2480
3 weeks ago
Hi lads thanks for the show tonight
Hero’s
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@mitch6528
3 weeks ago
Epic show lads…..as always!! Much respect from England. Keep up the good work boys.
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@angelahinagates2971
3 weeks ago
You guys are really intelligent , it’s so refreshing ….feel your good hearts too and the heart has lots of cerebral cells. The brain grows out of the heart in utero
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@AdvancetheflagofDixie
3 weeks ago
Great show boys
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@thomassinclair731
3 weeks ago
Great and focused discussion! Here’s to the new YouTube channel. Greetings from America
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@traddad9172
3 weeks ago
Glad to see you on YouTube- Many new eyes & minds could gain a fresh perspective
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@JonSnowofWinterfell21
3 weeks ago
Love the show guys keep it up!
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@pqtpat7734
3 weeks ago
Hell yah boys. Love to see it
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@biarkey
3 weeks ago
Cheers lads, thank you very much!
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@bellissimo999
2 weeks ago (edited)
Sucks that not enough shows on the far right as educational yet laid back and informal as this one. These streams are something special
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@hamish4659
3 weeks ago
Great episode lads
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@ThePoopyboy11
3 weeks ago
Just found this channel. Will follow you here, but you should repost these youtube videos to Odysee as well after they are done. More views
+ preserves them in case youtube deletes the channel.
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@zackedwards6297
3 weeks ago
Let’s go!
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@cheebamonger6742
2 weeks ago
Thank you lads. Very based.
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@bennconner1195
3 weeks ago
I legitimately thought those conspiracies were a joke or a troll when I saw them on Twitter.
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@scoso1313
3 weeks ago
Great show
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@travv88
3 weeks ago
Good show.
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@73donjohn
6 days ago
I tried NAC twice, both times my skin felt like it was severely sunburned and my face swelled up, It’s not good for everyone

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3 weeks ago
NAC is also a Zinc ionophore and helps the zinc get into your cells.

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3 weeks ago
Heck yeah boys
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@ausniannative3055
3 weeks ago
Lol. My boomer friend is down with Latham but not so much Hanson, will be interesting what they think
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@celineferdinand6944
3 weeks ago
I wonder how long this YouTube channel is going to last?
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@drewperrot2515
3 weeks ago
Hahah Blair mungin’ his dinner on the show
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@anniew4105
3 weeks ago
Burger
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@ZazzlesTheGubernator
3 weeks ago
Power couple.
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@baileywebb1
3 weeks ago
You can upload to your Odysee accounts automatically from youtube too guys
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3 weeks ago
We will not be replaced lads

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What up boyos
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3 weeks ago
That’s not Blair HuWhite!

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Hello from a German zoomer
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W show

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soon move to rumble so you won’t be censored

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How many days before that channel get suspended lol
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Based Latham
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Guide to Kulchur – The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – Andrew Joyce – Nov 22, 2020 — Transcript

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[The Occidental Observer (TOO) contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, has a fascinating discussion on the ever controversial document, the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion“, with Frodi Midjord from Guide to Kulchur.

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Midjord: So let’s just dive right into it. Let’s just take this in a particular order. Let’s talk first about what the Protocols claim be internally from the point of view of the document, or the book. And then we can go through a bit of what we think they are and how they came about. And then we can talk a bit about the historical context and then the impact they have had in the hundred twenty years since they have been published.

But Andrew what can we say about the Protocols themselves? What do they claim to be?

Joyce: Okay. Well the Protocols emerged into the public consciousness in a clear sense for the first time in 1903, in Russia, although it is rumored that copies of the Protocols were in circulation in Paris as early as 1897. But in 1903 a Russian newspaper serializes the Protocols and claim that they are the leaked minutes of a meeting of the senior jewish figures globally. So it’s the most influential figures within judaism. Why have a secret meeting. And at this meeting they basically lay out their plans for world domination.

There are a number of different versions of the Protocols in circulation. So there’s the copy that appears first of all serialized in the newspaper. Very shortly thereafter, within weeks there are other copy is which emerge, some of which are heavily influenced by Christianity. And the main speaker in those editions is the devil himself.

So there’s always a tension in the Protocols between the sort of spiritual side, the religious side of the Christian-jewish battle. And there are other editions which are focused more on political things, on real world events. And certainly the edition that has been passed down to ourselves has been the latter, rather than the copy in which the devil is one of the foremost characters. And this is the copy which is taken up by Henry Ford and given massive publicity in 1920 when he basically reinterprets it and embellishes it, and redevelops into “The International Jew”.

Now to go back to the Protocols themselves. The Protocols themselves are split into 24 sections. Each of these sections covers a different methodology so to speak of how jews attempt to undermine, overwhelm, subvert, and ultimately conquer Europeans, Christendom, whoever you want that protagonist to be. Now each of these sections over the years have acted almost like a prophesy. Because we can see, certainly over the last 100 years that certain events within these Protocols have come to fruition.

So we have a Protocols outlining that materialism most replace religion. Well we’ve seen the overwhelming victory of materialism ovt religion. We’ve seen the emphasis on modern progress and encourage people to become enraptured with novelty. Always seeking huge distractions. Always seeking to push the envelop and distracted with these things. And there is a Protocols specifically titled “Distractions”.

Underneath the guise of all of this rushing for progress, the jews are able to subvert society and overwhelm it and co-opt it to their means. There’s a Protocols on the promote of world wide wars. Well, we’ve seen wars all over the the world. Accelerated wars, of course in 1914 to 1918 and 1939 to 1945. We had wars the like of which that the world has never seen.

There is a Protocols on “Re-education”, co-opting the education system, subverting it, retraining children in new values. We have witnessed that certainly on a mass scale since the 1960s.

We’ve seen the Protocols in dealing with the “Press” come to fruition. Bear in mind that in 1903 when this document first emerged jews didn’t really control the press. In Britain, I think maybe one major newspaper was under jewish control but certainly on a global scale, or certainly throughout the West you could not make the argument that at that time jews were in control of the press in terms of ownership.

Certainly they were already forming commercial conglomerates that were able to exert a high level of commercial blackmail to force newspapers to take certain stances, and of course, Henry Ford found this out, much to his dismay when he was confronted with a lawsuit in 1927. And pretty much forced to back down from publishing his version, I suppose, of the Protocols.

But the other Protocols concerned things like assault on religion, brainwashing, abuse of authority, the arrest of opponents. There was a financial program, an emphasis on loans and credit and the power of gold.

It’s more or less a blueprint however you want to interpret these documents. Whether you want to look at it purely as fiction, as something of a prophecy, or whether you believe they are genuine. There’s clearly a blueprint for how to subvert and overcome a society here. This has been one of the reasons why the Protocols has endured for over a century, and why remains foremost in the public mind.

I mean we are only a few weeks on from the FBI accidentally — they claimed it was a bot — accidentally tweeted out a link to the Protocols [chuckling] and their documents on it! And there was quite a vigorous response to that. The Protocols are under the skin, even if they are not directly at the forefront of our consciousness. They are under the skin of Western society. They are there! And there’s no denying the reality of some of what is contained in that. Whether the authorship is suspect or not.

Midjord: Exactly. Like I said, even people who are friends of this show, who are friends of us, many people still reacted emotionally:

“Don’t, you know, it’s a forgery?”

That we were going to talk about it. It makes people uneasy, I guess this is what I’m getting at here. Because it’s such a heated discussion that has been about these Protocols, or this or this book, for more than 100 years. And if you just look at the Wikipedia article for it, already in the introduction they are upset that it is still in circulation, although it’s been proven to be a forgery it’s still in circulation. [Chuckling] Well so what? I mean aren’t people allowed to to read it, if it’s quote, unquote, a “forgery”?

But let’s get into that. What are the Protocols actually? I mean when I first read them many years ago, just from the style itself, I didn’t feel the need to read a whole lot around the Protocols, a lot of historical comments on them. Just from the style itself, it seemed to me that this was a sort of fictional account of what someone thought it would sound like if they were, if a council of jews were being honest, honestly talking about their ambitions in the world. This is sort of what it would sound like. From an [word unclear] point of view of course, because they use language, saying things like:

“We are going to be filled with hate! We are filled with envy and greed!”

Things like that. People don’t talk like that about themselves.

But can you talk about what are the protocols and how did they come about?

Joyce: Well I always felt that the description “forgery”, it just doesn’t quite fit. Now, in terms of what I believe about the protocols, part of their identity is that they are basically a plagiarism. They are a plagiarisms first of the work of a Frenchman called Maurice Joly, who was actually something of a political genius. He was a lawyer and a writer. And he had a real perceptiveness about the weaknesses of liberalism, the vulnerabilities of it. And the way that some of the mechanics of liberalism could themselves be subverted and used to overcome society. And certainly he was no fan of the French revolution and it’s aftermath.

But in 1864 He publishes a book called “Dialogue in Hell Between Montesquieu and Machiavelli”. And in that book it’s basically a discussion between those two individuals in hell about liberalism. And about post revolutionary France, and about how society could be overcome with the subversion and control of the press. All of the things I listed earlier when I was discussing the individual Protocols. So we list all these things, but specifically within that French context.

Now that was published in 1864. Four years later a German by the name of Hermann Goedsche who absolutely hates the British, but writes under the pseudonym Sir John Retcliffe. He publishes a novel called “Biarritz”. Biarritz in one of its chapters is called “The Rabbi’s Speech in Prague”.

And he basically plagiarizes Joly. So he incorporates all the stuff about subverting society, but he puts it into the mouth of a rabbi speaking to a council of jews in a cemetery in Prague. A midnight meeting.

And that’s the earliest incarnation we have. As I say 1868. This is the earliest incarnation of the Protocols. Because very shortly there after in Russia in particular the “Rabbi’s speech”, this chapter from the Biarritz is re-printed as a separate document and disseminated as the actual minutes of a meeting of jewish elders at a cemetery in Prague.

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And it’s really over the next 20, 30 years that the Rabbi’s Speech, as authored by Goedsche, and being itself a plagiarization of the work of Joly, it morphs and it’s refined, and it’s perfected, until eventually in 1903 we get that version that we are now all familiar with now in 1903 it’s serialized, but it doesn’t quite make a splash. It’s only in, I think it was 1909, I think. 1905, sorry. Sergei Nilus, a Russian mystic republishes the Protocols in its entirety as an appendix to his book, “The Great and the Small and the Coming of the Antichrist and the Rule of Satan on Earth”. Quite an obscure book, but the appendix itself attracts all of the attention because here we have the first time the Protocols in one document.

And it’s again taken and circulated as an independent piece of work. It makes a moderate splash until the coming of the Bolshevik Revolution, when it seems to explain the Bolshevik Revolution in its entirety, and it just catches fire!

It’s used by the Whites, the counter-revolutionaries, as revolutionary propaganda. And by 1918 it starts creeping into the West. It is translated into different languages. The Germans latch onto it basically as an explanation for their defeat. And it reaches the United States in 1920 where Henry Ford basically says:

“I know that there some doubt about it accuracy but it seems to explain and predict everything that is happening right now, so I think this is a document worth promoting.”

So he incorporates it and works with it in an American context to explore judaism in American life, with the “International jew”. It sells 500,000 copies. The jewish bodies in America lose their minds. They start initiating lawsuits, boycotts, and everything else. Henry Ford finally backs down in 1927, and the Protocols goes into a little bit of a slumber in the United States, but it remains absolutely rampant in Europe. To the extent that between 1918 and 1939 the Protocols is second only to the Bible in terms of the number of languages it had been translated into, and the number of copies in circulation.

Midjord: That is quite fascinating. And many prominent people in right wing circles also mentioned it, talked about it. I know that Alfred Rosenberg who was from a Russian family, but was born in what is today Tallin in Estonia, and he spoke Russian. He translated a version into German in 1923, I believe. And he was the one who introduced to Hitler when they got to know each other in early 1919, 1920 thereabouts. Because it was a huge deal in Russia, but it hadn’t really reached Europe until around that time, 1920.

So, I mean, it was enormously influential. And just like you said I don’t think that the word “forgery” is a meaningful criticism against it. Because that sort of like saying that 1984, Orwell’s book, 1984, doesn’t have any value because you can’t find Winston Smith in the phone book, or something like that.

I mean the whole point is that it’s a sort of fictional account, but it’s relevant enough for people to actually talk about it in very serious ways. And it’s obviously something that hit a nerve among jews. So it wasn’t outlandish enough for people to just dismiss it. So it was close enough to reality for there actually to be a serious discussion about it, right?

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Midjord: Of course. And the other point worth noting here is that it was part of a tradition. I mean the Protocols is not some document that comes out of nowhere. It emerges actually from a very intense literary scene. Now I remember reading that there were around 3,000 different anti-semitic texts in circulation in Russia between 1900 and 1918. And of these 3,000 separate texts amounted to around 14 million copies. So can you imagine today, for example, in the United States or the UK, or Norway, or Sweden, something like 14 million anti-semitic texts in circulation, like full-length books!

And the other thing is that it continues to evolve as well. We don’t really remember the kind of the aftershocks of the Protocols. But there were some early books which emerged sort of 1919, 1920, which took things further, or which were a different, … They were just as fictional so to speak, if I want to use the word “fictional”. They were just as fictional, but they were in the exact same style.

For example in 1920 in France we see the publication of a document called the “Report of Comrade Rappaport”. And this was purportedly the leaked minutes of a meeting of Russian jewish Bolshevik in which he kind of picks up from where the Protocols leave off. And he’s sort of:

“Okay! Now that we have accomplished Protocols 3, 5, 7, 8. Now we are going to do this to accomplish Protocols xyz.”

And there’s in Russia there’s a publication of “The German Bolshevik Conspiracy” in 1918. Sort of the last gasp by the Whites. So these things are ongoing for a while. They are continuing to evolve. And as you say “forgery” just doesn’t fit what this is. It fits into a historical trajectory, that if you really want to go into the deep intellectual origins of the Protocols, I would almost go as far back as Emmanuel Kant and his critique of judaism.

In 1793 he published, “Religion Within the Limits of Reason Alone” in which he critiques judaism basically by saying:

“Its not spiritual. It’s not a religion. It is basically a political entity. And judaism is itself a kind of political organization.”

And that at the time that Kant was writing that right at the end of 18th century was a bombshell! Because it actually flipped on its head all previous interpretations of who jews were, and what they were doing in Christian society. I’m talking of course about Christian super secessionism.

So anytime jews did something bad it was viewed as more or less as simply proof that the Christian New Covenant had replaced to Old Covenant that God had with the jews. And more or less everything is refracted within that. Sometimes it tends toward is a dabblization and association of jews with the devil.

Sometimes there’s a kind of hint there in the Middle Ages, up to the early modern period of the idea of a pact jews may have had with the devil for the subversion of Christendom. But it’s made explicit that this is a kind of real world political entity that we are seeing here where there is practical interest and where jews are kind of a club that work to get here and have political interest within government and should be viewed almost as a entity within it’s own terms, if I can put it like that.

That in itself weakens the sort of historical Christian defense of jews on biblical and eschatological grounds. For example this idea that jews were the original vine, or jews have a role in the End Times, and so on and so forth. But the time you get to the end of the 19th century Christian biblical scholarship is kind of reinforcing this trend, scrutinizing authorship of the Bible as a whole, contrasting the Old Testament with the New. Rediscovering the Greek nature of Christianity. For example the influence, I suppose, of Platonic thought.

All of these things kind of weaken the position of the jews. I’m going on a long overview here. Sorry about this.

Midjord: No. Go ahead!

Joyce: In the century between Kant critiquing judaism, in that kind of real world political sense and basically the emergence of the Protocols we see an almost total decline or undermining of, …

Don’t get me wrong jews are increasing in power but they are declining in, how should I put this? Kind of subconscious approval in Western Christian societies. Because this idea that jews have a religious function, either as witnesses to God’s curse, or that they will one day play a role in the End Times, that is weakened by the rise of rationalism, by the Enlightenment.

I know in our movement we are quite critical of the Enlightenment, sometimes. But certainly I see Kant as firing a shot across the bow when he published that in 1793.

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So by the time you get to the Dreyfus Affair, by the time you get to Herzl and zionism we basically see for the first time, it takes a century but we see that jews are a political entity. Zionism is kind of the most obvious manifestation of that, and it takes a lot of people by surprise in Europe. Zionism shocked a lot of non-jews across Europe.

Midjord: It shocked a lot of jews as well! [chuckling]

Joyce: Yeah! Yeah! I would say. So but zionism brings us full circle to this realization of the fact that Jews are a political entity as much as or more than a religion. And there’s something in that sort of end of 19th, start of the 20th century, where a switch gets flicked, where the Protocols is right there at the knife edge of it. And what we see is a rapid acceleration from that point on through the Second World War. And basically what I have always regarded as the third great European reaction against the Jews that occurs between the years roughly 1918 to 1950.

Midjord: Right. And I think it is also important to point out that this is not a uncommon way to write fiction, or to write fictional accounts like this. It has a long history. We talked about actually one of the best episodes in my own opinion we’ve had on Guide to Kulchur was the discussion we had about Robinson Crusoe. Daniel Defoe’s book Robinson Crusoe that we did with Ricardo Duchesne. We did that in September, if anyone wants to watch that episode. And that is also a sort of a fictional account of:

“Well, I found these documents, or I found this diary somewhere.”

And that is a way of writing that is not uncommon.

Joyce: It was quite common in Gothic fiction in particular. Even Dracula and Frankenstein are kind of this “rediscovered letters” format. It’s got a narrative pull to it. It’s attractive. The way the Protocols are written is one of the reasons why it has remained more attractive than say some of the other texts of that period.

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You look at Jacob Brofman’s, “The Book of the Kahal” for example which is actually a fantastic expose published in the 1860s by a Jew from Minsk. Who basically was frustrated by his interactions with other Jews. He converts to Lutherism. He then converts to the Russian orthodox church and he publishes The Book of the Kahal, where he basically explains how entire villages are bought and sold by Jewish communities.

And he explains how their economic practices works in terms of trying to gain political influence and forming economic monopolies. And this is a bit of a bombshell! But you ask anyone today about The Book of the Kahal and they won’t remember it.

Midjord: Right.

Joyce: And part of this, you know, there is a vigor and an attractive quality in which the way the Protocols were written. And I can’t help but believe that when someone was cobbling together the Protocols for the first time, the 1903 version, I find it very difficult to imagine that those particular individuals was thinking themselves:

“Oh I’m going to create the perfect forgery here!”

I think it was more a matter of this person had read the work of Goedsche, possibly also of Joly, and realized there’s something really perceptive and actually quite ingenious about this presentation. And I think it actually tells it in the Right way, it explains what’s happening perfectly!:

“So I’m just going to take these raw materials and refashion them a little bit. And what I’ll have is an absolutely compelling and very useful propaganda device!”

And that is I think is the best way to look at the Protocols.

And this unease about talking about them, using them as a propaganda device, that goes right back to the actual first exposes of the Protocols. Because obviously in 1920 at The Times, the London Jewish journalist Lucien Wolfe, he rushes with a kind of hurried article basically saying that this is [word unclear] focused. Basically saying what you said Frodi, which is that the style and tone are clearly fictional in origin.

But it isn’t until a year later when a Russian nationalist approaches a British journalist for the Times, called Phillip Graves, and says:

“You might want to look at this book by Hermann Goedsche, and you might want to look at this book by Maurice Joly and do a comparison of the texts.”

And the reason why this Russian nationalist, this was a Russian anti-semitic nationalist who actually tipped off that they were a forgery. Because this particular nationalist got cold feet thinking this was going to be a disaster for our movement if it is exposed that this thing is a fraud.

So the ambivalence about using the Protocols is there right from the beginning. I suppose if we wanted to use some kind of modern terminology, there is a difference in perceptions of the Protocols between, I guess you could call it, the sort of high IQ, the low IQ, and the midwit. And I would argue that it’s kind of the midwits just kind of don’t get it! The low IQ are sort like [chuckling]:

“Yeah! The Protocols! 100% genuine! Use them!”

Midjord: Yeah.

Joyce: And the high IQ people kind of get what’s going on. But the midwits are like:

“This is a forgery! We shouldn’t be using this!”

Midjord: Exactly! [loud laughter] Yeah, that is my reaction as well! It’s my reaction as well. That is not the point. When we are on the topic, … Let me just see here. I wrote so many notes, just to remember to bring everything up here, because it’s an important and interesting topic.

About the claims in the documents, this is the funny thing that at least the claims are not so outlandish that they are automatically dismissed, right? But what you always hear from critics is that the documents are false. That the documents themselves are forged or false or whatever. But they very rarely, very seldomly try to prove that the claims in the documents are false.

Joyce: Hmm.

Midjord: I mean they are very seldomly say that what is actually outlined here is completely untrue. The whole discussion about the authenticity of the documents themselves is sort of a red herring. It’s sort of a distraction. Because the important question must be:

“Are some of the claims, do they describe a realistic image of what’s going on?”

I mean it’s now been 120 years since they were published. So I mean, is there some truth to what’s claimed in here? And I think it can be discussed as a political theory! This is a book, although it’s written in this fictional form, literary form, it is a work of political philosophy, of how the author thinks that the world works.

And I would say that the worth of a political theory, for a large extent can be reflected in how well they are able to describe events in the real world, and how events will unfold in the real world. And of course in that sense both the theories like Liberalism and Marxism have been complete failures. And racial egalitarism, and so on, have been complete failures in describing that. That is why I think it can be interesting to discuss:

“Well, how good were the Protocols at describing what was going to unfold in more than a century after they were published?”

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Joyce: Well, this is the basic argument made by Henry Ford who supported them purely on the grounds that they were accurate and useful in describing and predicting events that were happening in the United States. He said:

“Look, (more or less) the discussion of the authenticity is a red herring.”

Hitler on the other hand, he defended the Protocols simply in Mein Kampf, simply on the grounds that the jewish press in Germany was going crazy about it. And he writes in Mein Kampf [chuckling]:

“That’s proof enough that they’re genuine!”

And I think Hitler actually was probably trolling a bit in that respect. That strikes me as an obvious troll. I think Hitler probably knew that they were fictional, or contrived in some sense. But he didn’t care, and also he would have seen the usefulness of them in describing what’s gone [on]. They are an excellent piece of political theory.

They are because Joly himself, the man going right back to the “Dialogues in Hell Between Montesquieu and Machiavelli”. He was a genius, he was a bit of a tragic figure. He ended up taking his own life with a revolver.

Who knows, if he had dedicated himself to satire and to political theory, he may have been more widely regarded in that sense. But his book, if it had been written straight, so to speak, rather than as a satire, would have resembled something like Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”.

Now we will say that Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” is a fake book or a forgery, or anything else. Because it’s straightforward in saying this is how you take over and subvert movements, political parties or societies. The Protocols is a kind of version of, or a predecessor of “Rules for Radicals”. It outlines methodologies for subversion.

And whether or not jews created the Protocols, or whether they learned from them or whether they pay no attention to them what so ever, the fact of the matter is that we can clearly provide historical examples of jews following certain of the Protocols! Consciously or not.

For example, when it comes to the assault on religion, we know, you look at the work of Kevin MacDonald, we know for example that jews have been at the forefront of de-Christianizing Christmas. They have been at the forefront of removing the link between church and state wherever that is possible, wherever that is beneficial to jews. We know that in terms of pushing progress, so-called progress, or modern ideas, that jews tend to always be at the cutting edge of the most destructive of those.

The promotion of LGBT insanity. The trans-sexuality and trans-genderism, pornography. And all of these things will be defended on some level as “progress”, or free speech, or of all of these liberal values. And all of this is pre-figured in the Protocols at a time when jews, I suppose, you could make the argument that they were certainly on some levels there were complaints in Poland right at the end of the 19th century that jews were selling pornography.

But can you imagine someone in 1903 even conceiving of the totally degraded state of modern Hollywood or the vast Californian pornography industry? Or internet pornography, or any of these things which have just reached a kind of satanic scale? They couldn’t have imagined it, but it’s right there in the Protocols! And we have to ask ourselves why? Is this a remarkable piece of prescient literature? Or are jews following some sort of blueprint, and is this it?

Sometimes things work in funny ways. I’m not strictly a materialist. I try to be as objective as possible in how I look at things, but I always leave a little 5% of my thinking to not necessarily spiritual things, but for the unknown. And the Protocols is one of those strange documents which seem so prescient, and which seem to conform so much to reality. And even though I know that it’s a contrived document.

And when you compare it side by side with the texts that it has been plagiarized from, you can see that clearly. But there is still something uncanny about the Protocols that you simply cannot escape. And yes, there is plenty that we can see in our modern day current contemporary situation which matches very, very closely and it’s accelerating.

For example arrest of opponents, loans and credit. Our Western economy at the minute is basically a credit economy from the man on the street, through to governments themselves, everything is funded and financed by debt. The only difference being today, the only difference between today and for example the middle of the 19th century, is that in the middle of the 19th century if you were a Russian peasant you knew who your money lender was and you knew what religion he was.

Today everything is so obscured with company titles and names and companies loaning to companies and banks selling debt to banks, that it’s so obscured that we live in a much more convoluted system. And it’s much more difficult to see who exactly who the final profiteers are at the top of the pyramid. I think we can all guess who these individuals are, and what group they represent. But this is the situation which we are in.

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Midjord: Right. And I for got to mention as well, I read a recent piece that was written in the same style as the Protocols. It was actually 5 or 10 years ago. I read this long article, … It was actually a comment to a article. I think it was on Lasha Darkmoon’s site, or something like that. Someone wrote a long, long comment describing how they had taken part in a meeting in the Rothschild house in England, and these parties that they have, and who they had met there, etc. And I obviously thought immediately of the Protocols. That this is someone who wants to write in the same style, simply because it’s effective.

But at the same time it can describe something real and in the world as well, and can make substantial, interesting, points.

Joyce: Of course. And it’s dangerous as well. In the 1920s for example Sergius Nilus, the mystic who published the Protocols as an appendix to his book “The Coming of the Anti-Christ”. Once the Soviets came to power they didn’t know quite what to do with him. They wanted to punish him because obviously anti-semitism was basically made illegal and any kind of anti-semitic documents, … If you were discovered in the possession of Nilus’ book with the Protocols or any anti-semitic literature you could face up to 10 years imprisonment. That is the penalty.

Nilius actually gets arrested on three separate occasions. And he’s in his sixties when he is arrested. He was arrested in 1924. He’s arrested again in the following year in 1925. He arrested again in 1927. When they go to arrest him again in 1929 he has a heart attack and dies.

So there’s this constant fear and apprehension on the part of certain regimes about the Protocols. Something that should be hidden and brushed under the carpet. After the Second World War there’s quite a subtle move against it.

By 1934, I should mention, first in Switzerland there was a very famous trial, the Berne Trial where basically the Protocols were put on trial. There was a national group, I think it was the “Swiss National Front” were printing and disseminating the Protocols. And the Jewish groups in Switzerland basically took this national group to court. The national group lost because it was basically shown that there were plagiarisms of the authors that I’ve described earlier. And they were fined. That was kind of the first legal challenge or, I suppose, government interaction with the Protocols, outside of the Soviet Union.

But in 1965 the United States government publishes a document called “Protocols of the Elders of Zion a Fabricated Historical Document” that declares the Protocols both unAmerican and the product of a warped mind. The true origins of the document went way over the head of whoever compiled that particular report.

In 1991 it’s declared fraudulent in a South African court. In 1992 a Russian District Court declares it a forgery and fines the Russian nationalist group Panyet for disseminating it.

But there’s always been a little bit of a push back. The rise of the internet for example give the Protocols a new lease of life. Although in 1996 the first day of passover* you get these unusual little instances. On the first day of passover in 1996 in Estonia the countries third largest newspaper publishes the Protocols! The first day of passover! [laughter]

[* Passover is a major jewish holiday that occurs in the spring (April) on the 15th day of the Hebrew month of Nisan. Passover is one of the most widely celebrated Jewish holidays. It commemorates the Biblical story of Exodus, when Hebrew slaves were released by God from bondage in Egypt. Called Pesach (pay-sak) in Hebrew, Passover is a celebration of freedom observed by jews everywhere. The name derives from the story of God’s angel of death “passing over” the homes of Hebrews when God sent the tenth plague. SOURCE: Misc.]

So there is always this kind of, there’s an undercurrent there. There’s always, as soon as the legal pressure is lifted the Protocols manage to seep their way back to the surface, almost as this kind of primordial [word unclear] text of the anti-semitic impulse, and the desire to confront the Jewish Question head on. So I have always found that interesting.

And of course even today the Protocols are very popular in the Middle East. And actually quite strangely popular in Japan.

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Midjord: One of the things I hinted at is that the Protocols are realistic enough for anyone basically to imagine that something similar has taken place in reality. There’s something about both the claims, about the things that jews do and things that people do to jews that others quote, unquote, anti-semites do against jews, that sort of no matter how sort of outlandish it seems it has a sense of a sort of credibility around it.

And I think Alex Linder, he put it very [chuckling], put it in the funniest way. He said that about the “Holocaust”:

“That the genius of the “Holocaust” story was that anyone who knows jews finds it plausible.”

[laughing]

And the things that the Protocols as well. Like when you look at events and you look at many things in jewish history they still have a plausible feel to them. So this group, of course, the learned elders of zion that are in the book, in the Protocols, represented in the Protocols, can we say something about real world equivalence of groups like that? Of Sanhedrin, a Council of Elders that determine the direction of the jewish community? Have there been similar things in reality? The image we’ve used for this episode is from the World Zionist Congress in the 30s. Have there been similar things in reality?

Joyce: I think foremost in the mind of the writers of the Protocols were the recent and very new zionist Congresses at the time. But there had always been in the European consciousness this idea of a group of jewish elders, of a resurgent Sanhedrin.

Now in the 1830s, after the French revolution jews become basically de-facto citizens of France for the first time, because of the French Revolution. Political emancipation is what it is called and many, many Frenchmen are unhappy with it because of usury, particularly in areas like Alsace Lorraine, and the money lending going on there. The fact that many farmers have fallen to jewish debt, and there are lots of complaints. Why should jews be allowed to be Frenchmen? And this basically reaches the ear of Napoleon.

Napoleon appoints an advisor called Count Louis Molé, whose image you see right there. The avatar I use is Count Louis Molé. And Molé convenes what he calls “The Grand Sanhedrin”. So he basically goes around France and he gathers up the foremost jewish businessmen, the foremost jewish clergy, and other notables, associates of the French aristocracy, for example. And convenes them all at the Hotel DuVille in Paris, where he posits to them various questions, and he basically says:

“Look you’re holding on to political equal status in the French nation depends on your answers to these questions. I want to know, do you only marry among your own kind? What is your attitude toward is lending money at interest to non-jews? , etc., etc.”

So basically all of these questions cut to the heart of jewish particularism, and basically to the jewish evolutionary strategy. The language we would use now. All of it is attempting to understand jewish ethno-nationalism. The jews lie to every single one of the questions! But Molé naively kind of accepts them, and the question of jewish eligibility for citizenship is never raised again.

One of the reasons that is given for this is that Molé was actually pushing to strip the jews of citizenship, but Napoleon had this kind of quasi-religious vision of himself as a new Messiah of the jews, and in a grand gesture in his own egomaniacal state he had nothing to fear from the jews and neither did the French people, because he was the all conquering semi-god. And he loved this idea of himself as a savior of the jews.

So, the question is never raised again. This Grand Sanhedrin, this collective of jewish leaders is brought to get here for the first time, of course it is derived from an understanding of the Bible, the Sanhedrin’s in it, this idea, this quasi-Gothic idea that jews have these semi-clandestine meeting of their elders, this kind of ancient cabal. And that is carried forth, so you get in the 1830s the Grand Sanhedrin of Paris.

But the end of the century you have the first zionist Congresses. You then have the World jewish Congresses. And then from the 1910s onwards you have the formation of bodies like the Anti-Defamation League. There’s the Council of German Citizens of the jewish Faith in Germany. The Board of Deputies of British jews in Britain. The Universal Alliance of jews in France, or whatever it is.

These bodies start springing up all over the place. And they in turn are viewed as forms of elders, or councils of senior jews. And of course that is what they are! Because the ADL is staffed primarily or certainly funded by a certain cohesive group of jewish businessmen. It’s linked to whole networks of rabbis, and so on and so forth.

So does the concept of an Elders of Zion exist in reality? Do we have groups of elders of zion? By which I mean senior jewish figures getting to get h in a kind of corporate body to make decisions that benefit jews and advance their interests nationally and globally? Yes! Absolutely!

We see these groups and we also know what they advocate for. Because we know that the World jewish Congress under people like Moishe Kamp [sp] are advocating for highly restrictive speech laws to be imposed across Europe We see this prefigured in the Protocols. We see their attitudes towards policing and the arrest of their opponents and the introduction of draconian laws which will result in long prison sentences for anyone espousing anti-semitic views.

And we also see how these people vote financially, so to speak. Whenever they pump their funding into the LGBT lobby or into the Israel lobby, into pushing for some wars, the push for war with Iran being the latest in a long list of Israeli and jewish war mongering.

Do Councils of Learned Elders of Zion exist? Yes they do! Under multiple names and in multiple jurisdictions.

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Midjord: So let’s move on to talk a little bit about the historical context which the Protocols arose, or these attitudes arose. I guess one thing that I’ve observed in studying jewish history is that when massively anti-jewish attitudes have sort of flared up in a country, it hasn’t been because the host population has been originally hostile toward jews. It’s just built up over a long time. It’s rather been that jews have been very successful and very prominent in that society and sort of abused the hospitality of the host country, and then the attitudes have changed very quickly.

I think that that can be said to have happened in Germany before the First World War and the rise of National Socialism. That the jews in Germany had an existence that was similar to what they have in America today. Where they’re very prominent in society, very wealthy, very successful, and then all of a sudden people say:

“Enough is enough!”

And want to throw them out of the country.

How was the historical context in Russia? Can you say something about the historical context in which the Protocols came about?

Joyce: Of course, one of the biggest questions about the Protocols that should arise to any reader of this particular book, is why Russia? Why did Russia, … Because we don’t associate jews really with Russia. With view as the kind of the centre, I suppose, of jewish power as residing either in the United States, or in Israel. So why Russia?

Well first of all, around 1900 there was about four million jews not Russian empire, as opposed to only one and a half million jews not United States. So demographically speaking Russia, the Russian empire, I should say, Zionist world centre of judaism, of jewry. Jews of course had been in Russia, the Russian empire, and those lands, for about a 1,000 years. They were a kind of Turkish ashkenazi population, traceable for the most part to the expulsions from central Europe around the time of the crusades.

Now during those 1,000 years they were mostly a middleman minority. They attached themselves to nobles and they gained contracts to run mills, taverns, they engaged in tax farming over the serfs. And basically by the time you get to the 1860s the jews have basically just started to ride the crest of a wave, of a massive demographic boom. I mean their population is just exploding!

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Their population was exploding because they’re incredibly rich! And they are incredibly rich because all of the kind of entrenched economic positions that they have managed to accumulate over time are just bringing in abundant profits. So much so that even some of the nobles that they have been in alliance with started to fall in to their hands in terms of debt.

For example you might have a landowner who has perhaps a 1,000 acres of forest, and he’s engaged in forestry, and he’s selling his trees and what have you for lumber. And this noble for whatever reason might get himself irrevocably in debt with jews. The jews then basically can seize the land. They now have thousands of acres to turn into lumber mills and so on and so forth. And this process starts to happen.

As this starts to pinch the noble class, what happens is there’s a kind of awakening among the nobles to the plight of the serfs. Because some of the nobles are like:

“Wait a minute! Now I know what it’s like to be in debt to the jews. Now I know what it’s like to be on the reverse side of this arrangement!”

So what you start to get is a push in the noble class for the emancipation of the serfs. This is bad news for the jews! Very bad news indeed!

Because, for example, the tavern system which was quite extensive, this is how it worked. The noble would own the land, and the land would raise certain crops, wheat and barley, and so on and so forth. And there would be distilleries and liquor production facilities on that land as well.

Now, the serfs would have to work land for a token fee. Some of that money they would be forced to spend in the jewish tavern. So they would have to buy liquor from the jews. And it was a common story that what would happen is the jews would bring the peasants into the tavern. Get them so drunk they would even forget how much they had drank. And say the person only drank ten rubles worth of alcohol. Well, when they woke up in the morning the jew would approach and say:

“You own me 40 rubles for all of that alcohol that you drank last night.”

Well the peasant, he can’t really dispute that because the jew is basically the manager, or the managerial class of the noble. He can’t argument with that. So he now owes the jew 40 rubles, whether he drank 40 rubles or not, is anyone’s is guess. But he owes the jew 40 rubles. He doesn’t have the 40 rubles.

So then he pledges his furniture in his house. And he pledges other belonging that he might have. Meager belongings. And in the end the jews basically would take all of the belongings.

This is the start of the jewish involvement in pawn brokering. Because things start being taken on credit, or in pawn. And jews become so well trained in this, between the 1850s and the 1900s, that when they arrive in the United States they become endemic. Most of the pawn shops in New York and Chicago, all of these areas, they are all jewish owned.

And when the television show about 10 years ago began, … What was it called? “Hardcore Pawn”? It was about this jewish family, Sam Gold. And there was some reference to this guy Les Gold, his father Sam had arrived from Russia at the start of the century and set up, that was in Detroit, a pawn shop in Detroit. All this stuff has deep origins.

Anyway, this obviously builds up resentment. There is a breaking point here. So there’s an explosion between, I would say, 1870 and 1890, in anti-semitic materials. Anti-semitism spreads through all classes. The small middle class, right the way through the noble class, and certainly among the serfs and the peasants. To the point that when the first Bolshevik organizations start coming together, and some jews are interested in joining it, …

Don’t forget the nobles have exhausted their usefulness to jews. So some jews think to themselves:

“The noble class can go. We lose nothing, and we have everything to gain by getting rid of the aristocratic class entirely.”

So some of the jews then started to drift into the Bolshevik and the communist movement. And there is always, when you look at the history, and you look at the documents, there are always some peasants, some activists, or some revolutionaries who think:

“Where are the jews here? These people exploited us just as much as the nobles did. Why are they here?”

And it’s this myth of what I would call the “jewish proletariat”. There was never any such thing in Russia really, as a jewish proletariat. But they emerged out of nowhere just at the time of the Bolshevik revolution.

That is the context. There’s a long, long tradition of economic exploitation in the Russian empire. It finally reaches a peak.

Jews cope with it, or try to cope with it, in two ways. One of them is mass migration. So they basically invent or embellish pogroms, and manage to get to the West riding a wave of manufactured sympathy. So they can decrease the demographic pressure within the Russian empire. The other is they just throw their entire demographic bulk into communism and into the revolutionary effort.

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Midjord: Right. So we’ve been going for almost an hour, and we have a few questions. So let’s just take a look at Entropy. Let me just refresh the site here. So the first one is from Sam. And he says:

“Dr Joyce.”

He sends a contribution to Entropy. And he says:

“Dr Joyce would you consider setting up an account on Telegram. Nowhere near as much censorship and lots of like minded folk on it.”

Have you ever thought about that?

Joyce: Yes I have. And I probably will do that in the next month. A friend actually recently suggested that to me as well. Twitter is obviously a no-man’s land for me now. I think I racked up 13 separate bans! [chuckling] I think they have a specialist team there dedicated there just to keep me off!

The thing I never understood about Twitter, is yes, we did the Skype Directory thing for awhile, which was fun and everything else. And I can see how that may have, perhaps, been ban worthy. Although I see that personal targeting of individuals is perfectly fine if your a Antifa identifying so-called “fascists” among The Proud Boys, etc., etc. But for the most part I was kind of just making really pithy, sarcastic tweets. But obviously that was too much dry humour for the twitterati, so that was me on the way out.

But yes, I’ll look into Telegram.

Midjord: Yeah, good. And if you want help, I have people helping me run the channel on Telegram, because I don’t always have time to do it myself. Just to make sure no one comments in the wrong way for example. So if you need help with that I’m sure we can find some people.

And then there is another question here on Entropy from Mondola. He sends a donation, $10. Thank you so much for that. He says:

“Very interesting discussion on a text which certainly had a big influence on world history. Frodi you frequently mentioned Rosenberg. What books on, or by him, would you recommend? And are there any good biographies out there?

On Rosenberg there are basically two biographies. An English one that came out in the 70s by Robert Sethfield [sp], I think he’s called. He was in Military Intelligence in the Second World War, I believe. I think he’s American, or is he British? I think he was American. He wrote the book in the 70s. It’s a biography, it’s quite good.

And Fritz Nogar [sp] wrote a biography as well. A sort of philosophical biography. Both are obviously hostile, but they sort of get the job done. You get most of the details you need. Books by himself, there isn’t a whole lot available. Alexander Jacob translated a selection of essays. Of course there’s the “Myth of the Twentieth Century” as well. But it has a certain style. Rosenberg has a sort of certain style. Almost like a stream of consciousness. But he’s so dedicated to the topic that is why I love reading him. Many people hate Rosenberg simply because he had a very chaotic style. But we can talk more about that in another episode.

Joyce: He wrote a book called “The Trail of the jews through the Ages”, which is quite accessible and brief.

Midjord: Yeah.

Joyce: Certainly more than “The Myth of the Twentieth Century”.

Midjord: Yup! I think Alexander Jacob translated that a few years ago, “The Trail of the jews through the Ages”. Do you have any thoughts on Rosenberg, AJ?

Joyce: Ahh. I’ll be honest. He’s not a figure that I’ve devoted much time or thought to. Of the kind of the National Socialist elite, I was much more fascinated by Goebbels. Irving’s biography of Goebbels. Fantastic. There’s also, I think it’s Gayor Groyth [sp] wrote a very interesting book on Goebbels. I think the subtitle was “Goebbels Mastermind of the Third Reich”. Or Willi Frischauer and “Genius of the Third Reich”. Something along those lines, which is quite good, .

Midjord: “Mastermind of the Third Reich” is the Irving book, .

Joyce: , … Obviously hostile. Heydrich I also find a fascinating figure. Robert Gerwarth’s biography. I think it was called, subtitled, “Hitler’s Hangman”, is quite good. Then there’s “Goering The Iron Man”. Can’t remember who wrote that. That was quite good.

I always think these biographies of the National Socialist leaders are slowing down, then you will get some academic com along and he’ll publish two or three. He’ll do like Hitler, Himmler, … Like Peter Longerich wrote a biography of Himmler where each of the [1,031] pages were a slice of bread it would feed a small family for a year! I mean the thing was massive! I think he then turned his hand to a biography of Hitler afterwards.

I always enjoy the works of Joachim Fest on Hitler. Especially his “Days in the Bunker” I always thought that he was kind of even handed, and rejected a lot of the caricaturing of Hitler. This kind of comic book, dark figure, embodying evil. I think he tried to balance things out.

There’s also a very interesting recent history of the “Holocaust”, called “Black Earth”. The author escapes me at the minute. [Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning by Timothy Snyder] It focusses less on issues of mass killings and gas ovens, and what have you. And it just places the entire concept of ethnic conflict within a kind of ecological sense. And basically portrays Hitler as a kind of as a ecologically minded individual who was fascinated by American capitalism, but also desperate to fight against it. There was some novel ideas in it, and that is something I respect. Almost a century on from the Second World War someone at least is willing to approach these subjects with some fresh ideas.

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Midjord: Yeah. But like I said we can talk about, we can do a whole episode on Rosenberg. Mondola sent another question via entropy. He says:

“Is it known if Stalin was familiar with the Protocols? And his opinion on it.”

There was some conflict and jews in Russia. So I mean he probably would have been familiar with them. Do you have any information on that?

Joyce: I would say that given ubiquity of copies of this particular book I would say that almost everyone in Russia, either read it or knew clearly enough what the contents were and what they represented. So I would say that Stalin most definitely was aware of that type of literary genre into which it fell, if not the document itself.

Now as far as his attitude to jews go, exactly what you said there, Frodi. They were complex. Now I believe that Stalin was highly suspicious of jews. But he had to fit that within the kind of Marxist-Leninist world view in which anti-semitism was a kind of bourgeois prejudice. So everything, all of his hostilities to the jews had to be refracted through that Marxist-Leninist lens. So for example when he does turn against zionists for example he turns on them as cosmopolitan bourgeois, not as kind of cabal of secret ethnocentric jews as such.

But the end result is always the same. I mean it’s the difference between someone who is completely atheistic, and materialistic, and believes in biological race and opposes jews on that ground, and a diehard Christian who completely rejects Darwin and opposes them on that. There are always going to be overlapping circles.

And it’s those grey areas in between that you often find the truth. It’s where they overlap is. For example look at someone like Martin Luther. Martin Luther had very many diatribes against the jews often originating with a kind of religious impulse. But he always brings in socio-economic grievances. That they are lending money and what have you.

I think that anytime you see antagonism against jews you might have to dig a little bit, but you will always find that kind of area of overlapping circles. You will always find that point in which there’s some realization of the true nature of what is happening. And I think that Stalin whether he intended it or not, was always drawn into a kind of antagonism, simply by the reality of the situation.

So did Stalin possess a coherent anti-semitic world view? I doubt it. Was he suspicious of jews? Yes. Was he suspicious of jews for rational reasons? Yes.

Midjord: Yeah. One of his closest men was of course Lazar Kaganovich. And he was even married to Kaganovich’s sister for a while. But of course he had many close jewish allies and colleagues and friends, and whatever. But he also had many opponents and rivals in the party. Many of the people he killed were jews. So like you said it’s a very complex topic.

So, Gadius Maximus sends 10 US dollars. Thank you so much for that. And he says:

“First Principles is an excellent series. Keep up the great work Frodi!”

Thank you so much for that.

And then Sam sends another question and a donation, and says:

“I read in one of your articles that you’re working on a book called “On the jews”. Is this the unreleased “Talmud and Taboo” under a different name, or something new altogether? Either way keep up the good work.”

Joyce: This particular book has been renamed from “Talmud and Taboo”, yes, with a huge introduction, I might add. And it is complete. And if you have any complaints about the delay, direct to Richard Spencer! [chuckling] Who’s [word unclear] with so many publishers. And he has the completed manuscript. But apparently there’s a queue of books to be published. Ed Dutton is taking precedence over me at the moment, I think. Anyway that book is complete.

But I do also have an agreement with Arktos to publish a separate book which contains, I suppose, my political philosophy in its entirety. There will be a chapter on jews. But it’s my world view. And it’s titled “Foundations of the 21st Century”. And it’s coming along quite rapidly. And I think that Arktos will actually publish very quickly. They are very efficient and they have a much bigger team.

So it could be the case that the latter book is published before the one that is been finished for about four years now! [chuckling] So, I don’t know! Different publishers operate at different speeds, I suppose. But this next book will be going to Arktos.

Midjord: Excellent! So we have one more question from Phil. He send also a donation through Entropy. And he says:

“It would seem by relegating them to international trade and money lending Europeans effectively gave jews overwhelming influence on global capitalism. Do you think this was mostly a twist of fate or did they manipulate their own rise to power?”

Joyce: That is a very good question. Very good question. As to the first part of the question, did Europe in a sense shoot themselves in the foot by giving jews a kind of financial head start? Yes, do believe that to be the case.

I mean this is the fundamental dynamics of a middleman minority. When you give that outsider group that much of a foothold. And basically they get to come into society, leapfrog the lower orders and immediately attach themselves to the higher castes, so to speak. Then you immediately offset a groundswell of resentment, but you also kind of have entrench them in that position. Because that relationship is symbiotic. It’s very, very difficult to separate groups out again. And it only happens really in catastrophic circumstances.

For example you overthrow the elite in its entirety and with them you kind of dispossess the jews of that symbiotic relationship that they had with the elite. Or you have to organize yourself a kind of political solution within society in which you turn the opinions of the masses against the jews. Or you wait for a kind of interregnum in which the political system itself undergoes fundamental changes.

So for example when you go back through history and you look at the most violent reactions against jews, they tend to be, I’m talking here before World War Two, they tend to be in times of weakened influence of the elites.

So the expulsion of the jews from England, for example, in 1290 occurs shortly after the coming to power of Edward Longshanks. And he inherits a really bad situation where the power of the nobles has, relative to the king, has risen quite substantially. So he doesn’t have as much total authority as he had before. And he is threatens in a sense by the nobles.

The nobles are not happy with the jews because they’re heavily indebted to them. The church has turned on the jews, and the peasants have as well. Faced with that overwhelming organization of society and the completely endemic nature of anti-semitic attitudes through the society the King’s hand is more or less forced in those circumstances to carry through with an expulsion with drastic measures.

And one of the interesting things is that when people try to rob the jews during the expulsion of 1290, the king still had some residual affiliations with some of those jews. To the point where he had the feet cut off of some of the thieves, and some of them were also executed.

So under an absolutist monarchy, or an absolute king, it was always risky to act in anyway against the jews. Even at the point of their expulsion. Because there were always likely to be personal relationships at play there. And an assault on the jews for the most part throughout the Middle Ages was an assault on the king himself. And you could be executed for it.

To the second part of your question, yes I agree that we shot ourselves in the foot. But the jews also have a role to play in orchestrating their rise. I think that we have to say yes. Jews came to Europe for a reason. Martin Luther always said:

“We didn’t go to Jerusalem and round these people up and drag them here. We didn’t force them to come here. We don’t force them to live among us. In fact we would prefer it if they left. But they won’t leave!”

Jews knew that they were onto a thing! They came to Europe under the pretext of certain understandings. The first understanding was that they know that they would face a certain level of hostility. They had to decide if that hostility was worth the payoff. The payoff being that you would get massively rich and influential by pursuing these particular trades. And they decided time and time again that it was worth the payoff.

And to this day jews decide no matter how much they push the envelop, that it’s worth the payoff! So, you might create a lot of hostility by pushing for speech laws, but if those speech laws go through that was worth the payoff. And that’s always been the case.

It’s why you see jews expelled from a country and then trying straight-away to get back into it again. Why would you do that? Why would you try to get back into a country that supposedly massacred some of your citizens, your co-ethnics and co-religionists, and viewed you as Christ killers, and in league with Satan, why would you try your hardest to get back into a country like that? And the answer is, jews have always said:

“It’s worth the payoff.”

There’s a strong instinct of gambling and risk taking here. And when it fails it fails catastrophically, and when it pays off it pays off [word unclear]. And we have watched this gamble play out for about a thousand years now.

Midjord: Yeah, I mean that is not only for jews, that is for other minorities, races, in Europe, in White countries. That they are hostile to us. They say that we are evil, but at the same time they have to live near us, or live among us.

And I’ve likened it, I’ve compared this to basically borderline personality disorder. There is a book on borderline personality disorder that is called “I Hate You! Please Don’t Leave Me!” or “I Hate You, Don’t Leave Me!” [chuckling] Which is basically, I mean, if you have had anything to do with a woman with borderline personality disorder, you sort of know what I’m talking about!

Joyce: Keep your personal history to yourself Frodi! [chuckling]

Midjord: Yeah, yeah! But I mean it’s a female disorder, but the thing is that it is well known that they hate you, but at the same time they are afraid of not having you around! [chuckling].

And that is the same thing with these hostile minorities. That they essentially hate us and tell us that we are evil all the time, but at the same time they have to live in our countries! [loud laughter] They have to be near us, among us all the time!

Joyce: Yeah. Yeah.

Midjord: It amounts to an abusive relationship [loud laughter]! That is basically what it is!

Joyce: Yeah. That is the basic nature of multiculturalism. That is it in a nutshell. Is that you bring in all these groups who hate your guts because deep down they either want to be you, or they want what you have. Both of which arouse hostility, which then reinforces the cycle. And yeah, it’s a vicious circle, and it just accelerates until there’s some kind of drastic separation.

Midjord: All right. I think that was all the questions. Let me just go through the donations on Dlive. Seawolf, two lemons. Sigma Storm, 14 lemons. And Simons, two lemons. Rcase62, one lemon. With have a diamond from Renunciate. And Sigma Storm one more lemon. Think that is all. Thank you so much for those contributions. So Andrew is there anything that we haven’t brought up, or that we have forgotten to mention so far?

Joyce: No. The only thing that I would probably add is that the Protocols are big in Japan, so to speak. [chuckling] There’s goods there, they are a big fan. The Protocols are big in Japan. They are constantly publishing the Protocols, or new versions of it, in millions of copies.

And I actually spent the last few days trying to figure out why that is. And I read a few articles by some journalists and none of them were particularly convincing. One person suggested that because Japan is a relatively closed society that kind of conspiracy theory is just really popular there. And others have suggested that the Japanese are just fascinated by Western decline and fascinated by explanations for it. And the idea of a kind of jewish conspiracy is particularly attractive to them also. But they have really taken it to heart.

One of the books that I have read about it, I haven’t read the book, but I was deeply entertained by the title. And it was called “Get Japan: The last Enemy — The jewish Drive for World Domination”. [laughter] It was like these Japanese people running around:

“We are the final enemy of the jews!”

And it’s interesting, and it just comes back to show the attractive, … We’ve talked about it all through this broadcast, the attractive and almost irresistible nature, irrepressible nature of the Protocols.

Midjord: Yeah. That is fascinating. That is fascinating! Also in the Arab world obviously, I think they made a TV series about them in Egypt.

Joyce: Yeah! Egypt ran a TV show on it.

Midjord: That is fascinating! [chuckling]

But anyway I think we have run out of questions, so that is about it. But I want to thank you so much for doing this and I want to thank everyone for listening. And before we wrap it up I just want to mention one thing, and that is that I’m doing another livestream later tonight. That is at 10 o’clock Central European Time, which is 9 o’clock UK time, and I think it’s around 5 on the American east coast.

We are going to have Millennial Woes on the show. And we are going to talk about a new, recent documentary called “TFW No GF”. It’s about social isolation and alienation in the age of the internet. It’s a very interesting documentary. So that is going to be a lot of fun. And of course you can see that as well on Dlive.

So Andrew can you please just let our listeners know where they can find your work and how they can support you.

Joyce: Yes, as always you can find my essays at The Occidental Observer dot net. I also have a channel OccidentalJoyce at BitChute, which is still up for now. And you can click there for some, … I don’t do a lot of podcasts, or broadcasts. I normally do a quick 15 minute chat on a certain subject. But you can listen to me there. And there’s a BitCoin address if you want to buy me a cup of coffee, or something in the meantime.

Midjord: Excellent. Wonderful. Well thank you so much for doing this. And I want to thank everyone who have been listening and sending donations and questions. And if you want to support our show, like I said, please share our links so that others can find out about them and go in and check out our archives of previous episodes which you can find on our BitChute channel.

So thank you so much, and I’ll talk to you again in a few hours. Bye bye.

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Andrew Joyce – T&T No 3 – Kicking Over the Bucket – Jul 27, 2020 — Transcript

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[This is the 3rd video in the T&T series from The Occidental Observer contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, available at his newly created BitChute channel.

Here Joyce advises against getting tangled up in debating jewish ideologies with all their abstractions that are essentially anti-White contrivances, and time-wasters.

He tells the story of a Zen master who posed a challenge to his monks by placing a bucket of water in front of them and asking them to tell him of its significance. None could answer this “abstract problem” to his satisfaction. Their cook though, who had been listening, stepped in and through action solved the challenge.

— KATANA]

Andrew Joyce’s

T & T No 3:

Kicking Over the Bucket

July 27, 2020

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In this episode, I discuss Jews, abstraction, and avoiding getting tangled up in needless debates.

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Introduction — US TV Host

Jews and Abstraction — Zen Buddhist Story

Cultural Marxism vs Cultural Capitalism

Theodore Adorno — 1951 essay, “Freudian Theory and the Pattern of Fascist Propaganda”

Jewish Tradesmen and Benjamin Disraeli

Our Task

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Introduction — US TV Host

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US TV Host: The Census Bureau has taken a new snapshot of America and it has shows some dramatic changes and it predicts still more ahead. For one thing the new report says that more than four out of ten Americans under the age of 20 belong to racial, or ethnic minorities.

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Andrew Joyce: Hello and welcome to another episode of Talmud and Taboo!

I would like to begin by saying a very big thank you to those individuals who sent donations via Bitcoin last week. I certainly don’t want, or expect to make a living from writing and podcasting, but these donations will help me spend more time on this and to invest in better equipment and software. So again, I thank you sincerely.

This week I’ve worked on the audio, and I hope listeners see a radical improvement in volume and sound quality. I’ve also listened to recent requests to record readings of my essays, and a number are now in the pipeline.

Jews and Abstraction — Zen Buddhist Story

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Now, let’s get down to business.

Today I want to talk about jews and abstraction.

One of my favorite stories from the Zen Buddhists concerns a famous and highly sought after master of Baizhang [sp]. He was so popular with prospective students that his monastery was eventually at capacity, with demand still arising. To solve the problem he decided, I suppose, to “franchise out”. And so, he wanted to select his best students to run the new monastery, and in a way most true to his teaching.

And so he devised a test and gathered together his best students. He placed a bucket of water in the middle of the room and formed the students in a circle around it. He then pointed at it and said:

“Without making an assertion, and without making a denial, tell me what this is.”

All of the students were puzzled and silent.

And then the student who had to up to this point been the most promising said:

“It couldn’t be called a piece of wood.”

But the master didn’t accept this. And then the monastery cook, who had been watching the whole thing, walked into the middle of the circle and kicked the bucket over! And walked away.

And he got the job.

Why?

Zen, of course, is based on a rejection of abstraction, and places a very heavy emphasis on direct action and experience.

The other monks, faced with an abstract problem, responded with abstractions of their own. And thus, got no closer to truth, or their goal, in this case, the promotion.

I worry sometimes that faced with jewish abstraction, especially the kind that we see in intellectual movements, we are too eager to respond with abstractions of our own.

Cultural Marxism vs Cultural Capitalism

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I recently listened to Keith Woods’ discussion with Tyler, aka, Thamster Wingnut on Cultural Marxism vs Cultural Capitalism. It was a very good discussion. And I think both young men are very intelligent and capable. I’m glad with have people like this on our side.

But one comment from Tyler bothered me. He was talking about Theodor Adorno, and supposedly conservative, or reactionary attitudes that Adorno held, especially in relation to classical music. Tyler commented that in one of Eric Striker’s recent debates in which classical music came up as subject matter, Adorno would have been on Striker’s side.

I don’t really know where to begin in terms of how problematic such a statement is, except to say that it is an excellent example of how easy it is to get lost in a verbal jungle, so thick that you lose sight of enemies and perceive them as friends. What’s missing in Tyler’s statement, and again I have a lot of respect for Tyler, is an awareness of the basic nature of the jewish intellectual activist, who invariably combines snobbish arrogance and malicious destructiveness.

Did Adorno pose as a classical music expert and aficionado? Yes he did! He studied music. He could play Beethoven rather well. And he even composed his own pieces.

But one often finds this jewish instinct to be, quote, “more German than the Germans”, or “to know classical music better than the Europeans”. There’s an arrogance over talent in this regard.

But more importantly, was Adorno a conservative reactionary in music? Of course he wasn’t! He was a relentless promoter of abstract, avant-garde garbage, as the future of classical music! And did much to boost the status of his talentless co-ethnic Arnold Schoenberg, and his abstract schizophrenic productions. In truth Adorno wouldn’t have been on Striker’s side, on any matter, at any time!

Theodore Adorno — 1951 essay, “Freudian Theory and the Pattern of Fascist Propaganda”

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All of which raises questions about the value of regurgitating Cultural Marxism theories in the belief that they can somehow be re-purposed for our cause.

Of course, I agree that modern capitalism requires critique. Bloated mass consumption, the globalist movement of labour, and the commodification of all areas of life, are evils that must be confronted. But it can be asserted with confidence that where the critiques of Cultural Marxism are good, they are unoriginal. And where they are original they are awful!

Take, for example, Ardorno’s 1951 essay, “Freudian Theory and the Pattern of Fascist Propaganda”. If we took Adorno at face value and entered into the game of abstraction, he would begin with a lengthy critique of capitalism and his indictment that capitalism destroys the ego and leaves a vacuum in the personality. We might agree! Some of us might agree. We might be tempted to say:

“Adorno’s on to something here! We can use this!”

But Adorno’s entire theoretical framework, is that capitalism destroys the ego, and that fascism fills the vacuum. The entire theory, is the presentation of fascism as a psychological pathology induced by capitalism. This, of course, is a self-serving jewish theory! And it’s difficult to see how it can be recovered, even in part, from its origins.

It annoyed me a few weeks ago to see the alt-Right Third Positionists circle, descend into infighting over issues just like this. The use of jewish abstractions and capitalism and communism.

But as I said, there is an inevitability of getting too deep into material that is ultimately circular, sterile, and redundant.

In my own writing, whether it’s on theories of anti-semitism, or Whiteness Studies, I’ve preferred to “kick over the bucket”! I simply point out the jewish nature of the ideas and thus expose them in the only light they really need to be seen.

Here it is important above all to know with whom we are talking, rather than what he has to say.

Jewish Tradesmen and Benjamin Disraeli

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You know, when jews first arrived in the West in very large numbers between 1840 and 1900, they went selling things on credit, door to door. Often it was secondhand clothes. And a common insult levelled at Benjamin Disraeli in the British Parliament was shouts of:

“Old cloh! Old cloh!”

Mocking the shouts that the jewish tradesmen would utter when walking through the streets of London.

Well it so happened that across the West at the time, there were many, many complaints from housewives, and so on, that they had ended up purchasing very shoddy goods on very, very bad terms! And they would explain that the jewish salesman would run a very confusing and distracting sales patter on them at the time of the sale.

So when I advise against getting into the finer points of abstract jewish theories, I’m not saying these things are too difficult to figure out. In fact, it’s not a matter of intelligence at all. I’m saying, don’t get sucked into a sales patter designed to distract you from your real goals, and which won’t provide you in the end with anything meaningful at all.

Good examples of “kicking over the bucket”, are Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, which doesn’t engage in psychoanalysis, other than to demonstrate its jewish origins and most obvious flaws. And my own exploration of Whiteness Studies is focussed much more heavily on the biography of its key figures, and the genealogy of its ideas, rather than the ideas themselves.

Our Task

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Our task is not, and never has been, to engage in Talmudic dialectics in order to justify, or excuse our existence. It isn’t our responsibility to show jews how intelligent we are, least of all in respect of their own intellectual contrivances.

When someone asks you a question like:

“What is White culture?”

Your task is not to engage in historical cultural analysis, but to see through the request and “kick the bucket” over, before walking away.

Our task is not to host endless conferences on Heidegger, or yet another podcast on Schmidt. Our task ultimately will inevitably require direct experience and action. Raising families, creating space for Europeans, and building a future.

As a man once said:

“We are here to fight, and to die, and to continue the flow.”

My friends, only one of these things is certain in everyone’s life. We will all die! Some of you will die this year, some maybe this week. Maybe one of you will die before the sun goes down. But the question remains over the other two. Will you continue the flow? Do you have children? And do you equip them with what they will need for the future? And will you struggle and fight in this culture war in order to preserve the best of what was, and usher in the best of what can be?

I hope that in doing so you see the value of “kicking over the bucket”, of stepping over obstacles, rather than getting tangled up in them.

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Thanks for listening. I’ll see you next time.

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TOO – Andrew Joyce’s Podcast – Talmud and Taboo — Part 01 – Jun 30, 2020 — Transcript

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[This is the first (the next podcasts restarts as number 1 as it moved to BitChute) of hopefully many podcasts from The Occidental Observer contributor and scholar Andrew Joyce on the “jewish problem/question“, titled “Talmud and Taboo“.

The problem is that Orgjew engages in activities that are deeply hostile to the West while at the same time constantly attempting to hide and deny that fact, as part of its strategy of long-term White genocide and the creation of a Jew World Order.

— KATANA]

[Cover image — The bottom image is the painting: “The Conjurer,” painted by Hieronymus Bosch. The painting accurately displays a performer doing the cups and balls routine, which has been practiced since Egyptian times. The shell game does have some origins in this old trick. The real trick of this painting is the pickpocket who is working for the conjurer. The pickpocket is robbing the spectator who is bent over.

The top painting: Talmud Readers by Adolf Behrman.

Overlaid on the painting is the jewish star.]

The Occidental Observer

Andrew Joyce’s Podcast

Talmud and Taboo

Part 1 June 29, 2020

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Editor’s note: Andrew Joyce has undertaken to do a podcast series, Talmud and Taboo. Enjoy!

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Barbara Lerner SPECTRE:

“I think there’s a resurgence of anti-semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place!

Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that.

[She continues: It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.]”

[Image] Jewish activist Barbara Lerner Spectre, second from left.

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Hello and welcome to “Talmud and Taboo”! The podcast voted most likely to be banned, destroyed, censored, and eliminated within the next 24 hours!

I am your host, Andrew Joyce. Podcast host voted most likely to be arrested within the next 24 hours! Thank you for joining me.

It’s been interesting 24 hours. I looked on with horror at the banning of Richard Spencer’s NPI/Radix podcast channel. And in a way it has prompted me to move into the area of audio-visual presentation of my material.

For those of you familiar with my work this is quite a big departure from what you are used to. I’ve written over 200 essays or articles now for the Occidental Observer dot net, where I have worked closely with Dr Kevin MacDonald, who I am sure everyone is familiar with. And for those of you who aren’t familiar with my work I tend to focus on the “jewish question“. I would suppose 90%, if not more, of my essays concern that topic.

I look to build upon, expand, and maybe in some areas, to take a new direction to the jewish Question as Dr Kevin MacDonald. And I’ve done a couple of podcasts over the years, but it’s not something that I’ve done consistently. To be honest it is not something that I really enjoy doing. I’m much more of a text based activist. I enjoy reading and digging deep in a sort of analytical way. I don’t really get as much enjoyment out of discussing these things verbally, but I understand the importance of doing. So, this is something that I’m now going to devote a little bit more time to.

The last 24 hours have been interesting, as I say, it has prompted this move. The censorship which probably began actually before Charlottesville, just before Charlottesville, has just steadily accelerated over time to the point where it’s almost like every time it looks like this movement, whether you want to call it the dissident right, the Third Position, whatever, every time it starts to build up a little bit of momentum again, something comes in to destroy it. It can be disheartening, it can be frustrating, it can be morale sapping.

So, in this particular instance I’ve decided to throw another voice out there. I’ve decided to create another podcast. It maybe in this giant game of left-wing wack-a-mole, this podcast is destroyed relatively quickly. I will save the podcast that I record for posterity. I will attempt to put them up on different platforms as required.

I don’t know what Spreaker is like in terms of censorship. I’m going to give this a go and see how long the podcast can stay up for. I’m just testing the waters. I’m going to test the waters for a section of the podcasts to see if it fulfills any role within the movement at all. To see how it is received by people out there, whether you are a non-shit poster on Twitter, or whether you are Richard Spencer, or whether you are Kevin MacDonald. I want to see how people react to the podcast to see if it’s useful, and we will take it from there.

In terms of a broader picture of what this podcast is meant to do, we all have some baseline knowledge of the jewish Question. This isn’t going to be harping on familiar talking points. I want to get back to intellectual basics, but I also want to take things in a deeper level. I want to get into the philosophy, get into the economics, into the social and political aspects of jewish Question in a really challenging way. To look at the most complex aspects of this issue.

And also, if I can introduce a little bit of entertainment value! It’s not my forte as you can tell from my essays – we tend to be deadly serious and sincere. But I’ll make it as entertaining as possible. I do think that helps to get some messages across.

In terms of the current movement as I see it, there’s a lot of content out there that is philosophical. There’s a lot of content out there with heavy critiques of neo-liberalism, capitalism, communism, woke leftism. All of that is fantastic! I appreciate all of that content. I agree with so much of it.

But what I have noticed is a definite drift away from discussions of the jewish Question, in and of itself. Perhaps this is fatigue, perhaps we don’t know how to transition from a [word unclear] where we have looked at it predominately through the lens of a kind of humour. There has been a lot of shit-posting about Jews, concerning Jews, over the last four or five years in particular. But I have noticed a fatigue set in.

The Daily Stormer – A Normie’s Guide to the Alt-Right

I did notice – and I find it very interesting that Andrew Anglin deleted the jewish problems section from the Daily Stormer – I think that is symptomatic of the drift away from the discussing this topic again. And it is something in a later podcast I am going to dissect and discuss, because I do think this is an interesting development, in and of itself – I have some ideas about it. And I think we need to look into as to why that has happened.

But, for the time being I think we should come right back to basics and we should look into the problems we are facing right now, and then we kind of just move from there, and we do look back at history and engage in as much comparative work as possible.

It can be difficult right now, at the present moment, to actually see where the jewish influence is coming from, where it’s going, what are its motivations, what are its techniques and methods.

With the banning of NPI/Radix from YouTube I see a lot of commentary online:

“Oh! It’s the CEO of YouTube. And what’s going on with the board there. And who are these anonymous people making these banning decisions and what have you within YouTube.”

YouTube, just like Twitter, Google, whatever it might be, the problems don’t end there. These people are acting on legislative proposals, policy recommendations, and really dubious, and in many cases false reports. Developed [?] organizations like the Anti-Defamation League, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, which probably since 2013, 2014, have been working on restricting free speech. This is a policy development, this is a form of activism that is probably, in a real and immediate sense, about six, or seven years old.

But really the tradition of jewish efforts to restrict free speech probably goes back almost a century, at least! And that is if you want to discount efforts in the Middle Ages, or the early modern period. And the early modern early period in terms of limiting the freedoms of non-jews just by working closely with elites in order to stymie conversation and smother dissent about Jewish activism.

So this is a part of a longer trajectory, and we really need to look at the bigger picture. I think in one of the early podcasts we do we will actually look at some of the policy movers and shakers. They are normally jewish. Some of them are actually Israeli, even. And they tend to have an academic, some media, background. And we will look into some of the proposals that were made, when they were made.

And we will try and track how these initial jewish moves have resulted in the fact that most of these big tech companies have more or less just rolled over and shown their belly. They are completely submissive. The trend and trajectory of culture right now is to just submit to the full force of censorship demands in the name of “woke” leftism, defending supposedly oppressed minorities. And in many cases this is going to get a lot worse. It’s going to go really widespread.

So I want to pick up on that with one of the earlier podcasts. And then we’ll move from that to the issue of jewish influence as a whole.

Right now I think as we set off in this first short, brief podcast, is just to say:

“Well what is the jewish Question?”

I’m assuming if most of you have tuned in to this in the first place that you already know my work, which means you already know a great deal about the jewish Question. But if you are completely new to this issue, the only thing to say at this point is:

“What is the jewish Question?”

Well, it’s two questions. The first question is:

“Are jews a cohesive group?”

The second question is:

“Does that group have out-sized or disproportionate influence, and is that influence harmful to the majority population, the host population?”

In terms of the first question we look at parallel narratives here, parallel realities in some sense. On the one hand jews are most definitely a group! They self describe as a group, they organize as a group. Every thing they do demonstrates group behaviour. The diaspora and Israel are symbiotically linked. This is disavowed and denied by jews the world over, but we know that it is linked!

We know that support flows from the diaspora, political, financial, even in terms of morale. There are different forms of support that flow from the diaspora to Israel. And in a way, we could argue that Israel simply couldn’t survive without the diaspora. That is why the Jewish state was never going to be a solution to the jewish problem. That is why more than half a decade, approaching a century, I suppose, in a couple of decades from the founding of the state of Israel we still have a major jewish problem around the world.

The nexus of that problem may have shifted slightly from Europe to the United States, but it remains a very, very, powerful Western problem. The problem of jewish influence in Western society has persisted, and it will persist until we reach absolutely coherent and satisfactory conclusions!

The second question is this influence that they have out-sized? Is it out-sized? Does this group have out-sized influence? Well we can track influence numerically. We can look at the number of jewish politicians there are in our parliaments, and congresses. We can look at the number of jews that there are in really influential aspects of society, like the media, like the government, like finance, like education, like academia. We can track all of this.

And it’s quite obvious that there is an over-representation there. And we can look at it qualitatively. We can say that these members of these various spheres of society, these jewish members, most definitely advocate for jewish interests. In many cases they’re quite explicit about that.

So what’s the problem then? What’s the confusion?

Well, the confusion about the jewish problem, the reason why jewish influence is everywhere, and yet somehow nowhere, is that it is simultaneously denied. Jews will organize as a group to deny that they are a group! They will use the fact that they have organized. They will pool their resources, they will act as a group! And in doing so, use all of those group resources to deny that they are a group!

So they will disseminate an article, for example, that jews are as individualistic as anyone else, that jewish financial criminals were acting completely on their own. It has no broader ramifications with the jewish population as a whole. And so we get a kind of vicious cycle where jews repeatedly engage in group behaviour and deny it, engage in it, deny it, engage in it, deny it!

[Image] Cartoon — Son asks jewish dad for $50. (click image to enlarge)

And these tactics — which we will break down and analyze in the course of these podcast series — have been honed over the course of centuries. It’s why they are so efficient. It’s why in many cases our population is so numbed to it, and somehow so well accustomed to it. But it is everywhere in our education, it’s everywhere in our culture. And that is why so many people are blind to what’s going on in front of them.

One of the goals of these podcasts is to present bite-sized chunks of material, perhaps with each episode focusing on a case study which kind of opens up a much broader aspect of the problem. We can kind of zoom in, we can put something under the microscope and we can say:

“Right, here is an example of jewish influence.”

So, this is the goal of the podcast. Thank you for listening.

As we get under way I look forward to journeying this project together. I don’t know how long it’s going to last. It might last a day, it might last a week. Those of you that followed my stuff on Twitter will see that it was kind of “blaze of glory” type stuff! We ran with it, we got a lot done! Someone flagged it up and I was never able to come back. I saw a Twitter post the other day, someone said:

“When is Joyce coming back? He bestrode the Twittersphere like a giant!”

Those days are over. I’m not coming back. I can’t get into Twitter. I have tried. They are looking out for me. They are keeping an eye on me. It’s not going to happen.

But this is something new and, look, if they have to chase me all over the internet, trying to ban these podcasts, at least it consumes a little bit of energy, on their part. So, I’m happy to do this. I hope everyone enjoys it.

And thank you for tuning in.

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Red Ice TV – Thought Criminal Monika Schaefer Arrested and Imprisoned in Germany – Part 2 — TRANSCRIPT

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Part of the subversion of Whites has been achieved through the diabolical lie known as the “Holocaust” that is used by organized jewry as a “shield and sword” to draw attention away from its massive crimes against humanity, such as the instigation of the World Wars, 9/11, etc., while also instilling guilt and shame in Whites for their very existence.

Alfred is a tireless and impassioned “man on a mission” to alert all to the reality of our dire situation and the forces behind our looming racial and cultural destruction, if we fail to act! I would urge all readers to support Alfred in his work and to help him in exposing the Orwellian situation that his sister, Monika, finds herself in as a “thought criminal“, now locked up in a maximum security prison in Germany.

In Part 2 here (Part 1 is here), Henrik explains his thinking on how Red Ice should present such taboo topics as Revisionist material, and the role of organized jewry in our racial and cultural destruction, that Alfred discusses. Since Red Ice has a large and growing audience on YouTube, Henrik rightly concludes that despite wanting to get the truth out, they must avoid getting banned by YouTube by publishing certain material discussed here in the members section.

Alfred then talks about the use of “control words“, such as “extreme right wing“, “racist“, “anti-semitism“, etc., by our enemies to frame the debate in their favour. Organized jewry through its media domination have been relentless lying to us for the purpose of effectively genociding the White race through mass invasion of non-Whites, miscegenation and other means to drive the Whites into minority status.

He then talks about how the advert of digital technology has enable us to reclaim history and expose the lies that we have been feed. Despite the availability of the true history it is a traumatic process for most people to go through as they rid themselves of the lies that they have been brainwashed with all their lives. Alfred talks about how he overcame his fears to eventually come to conclude that Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced.

Henrik talks about how he has become “skeptical” about the so-called “Holocaust“, because of the many things that simply don’t add up, and as such is very interested to hear about what “Holocaust deniers” have to say. He goes on to say how the “Holocaust” is always talked about in an emotional way by the main stream media, leading him to conclude there is something “fishy” with the story.

Alfred goes on to explain how the people of the West have been, through psychological manipulation, reduced to the level of spiritual, emotional cripples, that have prevented them from resisting, so far, from being flooded with millions of the Third Word.

Henrik tells how that Red Ice has put everything on the line in talking about migration, the JQ, White genocide, etc., wherever the truth leads them. How jews like Barbara Spectre, Noel Ignatiev, Gregor Gysi, talk about the desirability of White population replacement.

Alfred describes how technological development has been used by jews to further their plans, for example with their control of Hollywood, the media, etc. The World Wars and what is happening now is the final phase of the “War of the jew” to dominate the world. And how our empathy, our jew induced feelings of guilt, pathological altruism, and so forth, is being used against us.

Much more is discussed, with Alfred and Henrik ending by urging listeners to write letters of support to Monika.

I would add that Monika’s imprisonment is a real expression of the war being waged against us and our freedom to exist. Her situation is symbolic of the repression that will only get far worst unless we stand up and fight back in any way we can, however small or large. So start sending cards and letters to Monika, and anything else towards helping her and our cause.

Write to Monika now, at:

Monika Schaefer
Stadelheim Prison
Schwarzenbergstr. 14
81549 München,
GERMANY

— KATANA.]

Red Ice TV

Alfred Schaefer

Thought Criminal

Monika Schaefer

Arrested and Imprisoned

in Germany

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Alfred Schaefer is a German producer whose videos are aimed at exposing the propagandistic nature of the mainstream media. His videos outline how the hostile elite that are in control of much of Western Civilization have managed to subjugate entire populations and their political leadership through psychological conditioning.

Alfred Schaefer joins Henrik for a discussion about the consequences of challenging the accepted view of the Holocaust. The program begins with Alfred describing what it was like to grow up in Canada with German ancestry amid an accusatory climate of Holocaust remembrance. He describes his sister Monika’s newly found skepticism of the prevailing historical view of the Second World War and her subsequent video productions. Alfred recounts how Monika was arrested in Munich because of her videos that challenged the prevailing mainstream consensus concerning the Holocaust while attending the trial of Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer on trial for so-called Holocaust denial. Henrik and Alfred discuss with incredulity how pursuing historical inquiry can lead to criminal charges and imprisonment.

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In the members’ hour, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the free fall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.

Henrik and Alfred go on to discuss the severity of the current geopolitical situation as an existential crisis; the importance of pursuing moderate solutions to avoid widespread conflict; and much more.

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TRANSCRIPT

(64 mins)

[00:00]

Henrik: All right ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here in the second segment at Red Ice Members dot com. We’re talking with Alfred Schaefer.

And I just want to take a moment and kind of explain a few things, not only about the topic, but kind of about the way that we have to think about how we address these kinds of topics now, as well. The first thing is, of course, that we were mentioned, Red Ice TV was mentioned by name in the British Parliament. It was a couple of weeks ago now, by a lady who brought us up, we’re in the record of the UK parliament right now in reference to, I think there had a discussion about hate and violence and how people turn to terrorism and stuff like that. And we came up as a horrible right-wing example of a channel that should be censored! And this lady [Yvette Cooper], I forget her name, now even. She was literally calling, she was sitting there with a representative from Google and talking about us specifically how, you know:

“What do we need to do to make you censor these kinds of channels? ”

And not only since that point, but around that point, we realized that okay, what we have here with the YouTube channel, I think we just broke 170,000 subscribers recently. So it’s a good, you know, it’s a good platform. It’s a good way to get the message out. And just to be frank with everyone, I also feel at the same time that I know that certain topics are just a “third rail”! I know that they would lead to censorship. Part of me feels, I don’t want to hand their reasoning to them, or the way that they just can basically say, “Okay, let’s censor it! ” Because they’re talking about these “nonsense” topics.

We don’t have to, you know, we know that they’re not. We personally and I personally, as we heard tonight, we’re open to everything. We consider that our audience should have an open mind. And even if it’s a topic that you don’t agree with, if you’re a newcomer, if you don’t know what we’ve talked about in the past on the show. Whatever it might be, we hope that you’re in a position where you. Where you hear our guests out and you hear us out and give us the benefit of the doubt. And even if you think differently, you know, there’s no reason why you should hate all the other material that we do. You would just come to a point where we disagree. So that’s fine, but, what I’m getting at is, that I feel this urge, I want to talk about certain things, I especially want to talk about the things that you’re not supposed to talk about! Like this topic we’re addressing here with Alfred today.

At the same time that’s why I feel reprehensible these days, to full on go on a path especially in the first hour, because that will go up on our YouTube channel. It will be available for free and that’s where kind of feel, I think we should have an approach where we basically save some of the more controversial material, shall we say, for the second segment., because that’s our platform, we control that. There we can discuss whatever we want to. And that’s also kind of partially why I don’t want to just go fully overboard in the first segment., because YouTube will censor us and if we can limit that ability, I think that’s a smart strategy.

[03:01]

I think it’s better to reach out with, I don’t know twenty-five, or fifty percent of the material that we have, then not reaching anyone at all., because we’re going to be at censored. So that’s one of the reasons why I didn’t pick up on certain things that Alfred mentioned in the first segment when he talks about historical events and things like this. I kind of, I just feel, you know, let’s leave it a bit later and we will go into the details. And if people really want to get into the knowledge of this, they can check our archives. They can listen to the second hour and they’ll get kind of the full spectrum of the things that we discuss.

And again, just briefly on this, there are some people, when it comes to this topic, that are more effectual than others. There are some that are better when it comes to the history and stuff like that. I have a very open mind about this topic and I frankly don’t know all the intricacies, and the ins and outs, of this historical event. There’s many many, you know, revisionists or, historical truth seekers that are far more pertinent on this topic than me.

But I love listening to these guys, no matter how out of left field it may seem. I want to get to the truth and I’m willing to give the people a platform, that talk about this, that DARE talk about this! And that also ends up in trouble for talking about this. I think it’s a incredibly important and if we can offer, you know, something we here at Red Ice that is completely, … We’re not original I know that there’s other people talking about it, but I’m saying, you know, in the size that we have of the YouTube platform and stuff like that, if we can offer people, or be a vehicle to help to get some of that message out, I want to! I want to be there as a free speech kind of platform, that actually focuses on these kinds of things that you’re not supposed to talk about.

There’s many parts to this, and it’s a very dynamic situation. So on one hand you have to be careful of how you cover it. You have to be smart, how you cover it. And you don’t have to be reckless. And I know that some people out there they want me to go full force and talk about these issues all the time, and this, and that. And I just don’t think it’s smart to do that. I think we just shoot ourselves in the foot.

So, you know, I’m all aboard of speaking about these issues, but I want people out there to understand that we have to be, you know, kind of smart about this too. So, I think that’s kind of encapsulates what I want to say about this. I could go on for a long time.

But Alfred, let’s focus back on you here now and talk more about this., because I want to hear about this. I want you to be in a position to be able to share what you think our audience should know about this historical event. What components of this is important and I also want to again urge people that you might not agree with Alfred.

You might be a newcomer, you don’t know about this topic, or never really maybe cared about it that much, or your convinced of one way, or another. But just hear Alfred. Hear our other guests out that talk about this and see what conclusions you come to. See if there’s anything to it, because I think this is a vastly important topic, for the reasons that we mentioned Alfred. That, you know, they’ve hinged so many other components on this, in terms of the guilt and like, this is the reason why we must become multi-cultural. This is the reason why we have to accept all these people into our countries. That’s why we can’t have a country which is comprised of our own people as a majority, and stuff like this.

[06:27]

So it is a focal point, a node point, in their kind of matrix, if you will, of how they managed to keep us trapped and encapsulated. But how would you, … Assume that we’re talking with someone who is new to the topic and who might even be upset with you, at this point at the things that you have mentioned? What would you like to say to them, and how do you think is the best way to get them into the mindset of how the should relate to this.

Alfred: Well let’s just start with what you said before. That you are mentioned in the UK parliament there. And they said, “extreme right-wing”. Well I tell you what, I’d rather be extreme “right wing” then extreme “wrong wing”! And in our language, and so much of what they’ve done to us is with the words. They use the words and make us associate certain emotions with words, and thereby controlling us, until we are actually upside down in our thinking.

Now they have made us believe that to be “right” is very bad, but I’d rather be right than wrong. And in German, in fact, they use the word “left”, also means, if you got “left”, it means you got cheated. And all these jews, these communists, basically are turning everything “left”! Which means they’re cheating, they’re inverting it. You can turn a shirt “inside out”, in German you say, “Links abbiegen” which means “turned left”.

I want to use that word, because that’s just one example of how they do it with all the words, all the words. They define people as “Holocaust” deniers! They define everything they don’t want to hear as “hate speech”. Now, as long as we bow and bend to these kinds of intimidations then there is no stopping. They will keep driving us further down the road they want to drive us down. And that’s why my position on this is, I guess some people would call it reckless, but I say I will not adhere to any of these thought laws!

And also, if you ever deal with a psychopath, you will know that the psychopath will have a hysterical reaction whether you do a tiny little deviation from what he wants you to do, or if you just, you know, destroy the whole thing.

So that’s why I say, I notice it too, the people that go to prison here in Germany. Some people go to prison, because they gave three pieces of paper to two people. Well I say if you go to prison for giving three pieces of paper to two people, you might as well go to jail for giving a million pieces of paper to a million people! You see, because you might as well, the punishment is going to be the same. It’s arbitrary.

[09:06]

So that’s one thing, we have to understand what we’re up against and regain our independence in thought and spirit, and we do not have to bow to anybody! Especially not somebody who we know is lying to us on a scale that is beyond most people’s comprehension. And that’s what it is with the jews, as a collective. They have amassed so many lies, that they know that when these lies collapse, that they will be chased out of town and there will not be a jew left alive! , because the people, they don’t have to worry about us, you know, you, or me, we have had time to incrementally come to terms with the frustration and the anger. So we’ve got control of ourselves.

But what about all those people, when they understand just what’s been done to them? Especially now that the big picture, the big plan is, in fact, the extermination of the White race by mass miscegenation and by genocide. And that’s a reality that will catch up to us, no matter how we try to put her head in the sand, or cover our eyes and not look at it. When your house is being invaded by the hordes on the street, then there is no more hiding! They will kill you!

And the Germans, the heart of Europe, they went through so much horrible, unspeakable suffering, and now the very descendants of these people that survived that genocide, are on their knees paying the perpetrator for some “Holocaust” which never ever happened! In fact, the jews themselves came out of that conflict, that we call the Second World War better than any other race.

See they did it, just like 9/11, they got the “jew call”. The jews, they always set the stage. Once they know the fighting is going to begin they get the hell out of there. And all those jews left and got the hell out of there, those are the ones that later claimed “Holocaust” restitution, because they are survivors. Now if you took, how many jews there were even though they were the enemy of the Germans, they still fared better than the Germans! If you look at how many were there, how they, you know, percent wise got out of that, made it through, they did very well! Just like 9/11.

9/11, I think three jews that died, although there was hundreds of jews that worked in those complexes, but they all stayed home that day. Just like they all stayed home, or they all went on vacation and left those cities that were then fire bombed in Germany. And so many jews, they left and then afterwards they claimed “Holocaust survivor”!

[12:03]

So that’s reality. I mean, they’ve been so, so, so, successful I think it’s even blown their own minds how successful they’ve been. And this success however, has deluded their minds to think it can continue going on that way forever. And now, of course, comes the day of reckoning. Digital technology and our ability to think, and our ability, as people from everywhere figure out what happened in our history, putting all the stuff together out of that what was supposed to be forgotten and erased.

Well, digital technology has enabled us to actually bring the stuff back to the surface, put the pieces together. And now we’re putting the big picture together. And the jew, there is no escape. The jew will not, the jews dream is to have a thousand years of, you know, world domination. Well it’s coming to it’s end, probably this year. And that’s why I say that the sooner everybody comes on board and understands this, the better it is., because it is traumatizing, and you cannot erase the emotions of the programs out of your head.

Even if, you know, okay, it’s a lie, you know, this is what the truth is. Until you really have your mind back under your control with the truth and the proper emotions, it’s a traumatic process that can take a long time.

And I know, even myself, not just a couple of years ago, I still had to really overcome fears of looking at things like, “The Greatest Story Never Told” by Dennis Wise, for example. I remember the emotions, we had to pull down the blinds before we look at that, somebody might see us. And to go from understanding that Adolf Hitler was not a villain, but probably one of the greatest Europeans, one of the greatest people the Europeans have ever brought forth! On the same scale as the greatest heroes that we’ve ever had in the past. Whether it’s Caesar, or whether it’s, you know, Napoleon, whoever these people are. Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders that we have ever produced!

Henrik: So let me pick up on something you mentioned earlier. Again in terms of the labels and this kind of stuff, “Holocaust” denier, for example. I think the articles out there about, you know, me, Red Ice, whatever. I think that’s usually one thing that’s kind of mentioned right away. As a way to immediately discredit! Like here is a untrustworthy, stupid, moronic organization! You know, they once talked about the “Holocaust”, or that it didn’t happen, or whatever.

So that is kind of bandied around a lot, you know, Henrik is a “Holocaust” denier! [laughing] Because I’ve had people on the show that don’t believe in the story, in the mainstream story. And it’s also, because I’ve had them on the show and I don’t treat them the way that let’s say, you know, because Fox, or CNN, as media outlets, they can talk about the subject, but you have to have the right relationship to the guest. You have to clearly demonstrate that you’re an opposition to them! And you’re resentful, and almost hateful towards them. Then it’s okay. Then you can touch on it.

[15:06]

You can’t invite people on the show that you, and again, it doesn’t matter if I agree, or disagree, it’s a crime that I can’t invite people to the show, and ask them questions about what they believe, and give them a platform to share their opinions. That is a crime in itself, right?

So now, I become a “Holocaust” denier. I haven’t even, I don’t have all the facts about the event. I frankly I don’t know who does. I think there’s enough information to know that something is kind of weird with the bits and pieces that we have been given. And something is, I think there’s enough information to demonstrate that it’s not as they claim that it was.

That’s kind of, and frankly in the most honest way I can explain, what I think about the event., because I know that there’s an incredibly muddy, the waters is so muddy around it historically. And the few bits and pieces we managed to extract, Alfred, we’ve been able to see that it’s like, well, how the hell do you piece the math together here?

One thing I really like about many of the videos out there that talk about this subject, and the mechanics, if you will, of the event itself, it’s a very, you know, for those that are not familiar with it, it’s a very gruesome way that it’s done., because it’s done in a very cold and scientific way. And that’s also a give away, I feel., because we never get to that level of inquiry in the mainstream. It’s always emotions first, right!

Every time you talk about this, it’s about, you know, a little girl’s experience, and they get you in that mindset right away, where were you not allowed to just, well wait a moment, let’s not talk about the emotions first! Let’s just zoom out and let’s talk about what actually happened. How did it come together? What do they say that it is, right? In these videos that look at the, for example, the number of bodies that have been taken into the chambers where they were undressed, and so forth. And then, you know, the gas was disseminated and then they transported the bodies up and out through this little kind of small elevator, up to where the crematories are, and stuff like that.

You know, what I’m talking about. Those kinds of videos that really going to the nitty-gritty detail. That’s were I think the key is, because it shows scientifically and mathematically that this is a very different. It would have been very different to, what should we say, dispose of that many bodies that they claim, for example.

So from my point of view I think it’s a numbers game. I look at it, and it seems mathematically and scientifically, that what they say to us, that’s an impossibility! And the fact that we’re not allowed to talk about that, or the fact that they have to kind of show this emotional thing first, and avoid the science of it. That’s a dead giveaway to me! So, just from the point of view, I just like, you know, I don’t know what the hell happened! [laughing] And I don’t have all the details. But something is fishy with the story. That’s where I’m at. What do you feel about this?

[17:55]

Alfred: Well like you said, it’s all emotions and no science. And when you said before, that if you are one of these main stream media, or jew stream media, they can only get on there if you bend to their nonsense. And yet they will scream at, they will denounce someone as being a “Holocaust” denier with such hysterical emotion. And people have no self self-esteem anymore, because they are demoralized, there are people who don’t even know which gender they are, don’t have any self-esteem.

And they will scream from one corner to the next, like a little dog, or like a little rat with emotional hysteria. Not even turning their brain on to just think, well what is actually the reality? They are so incapable. See, the danger that we have right now is that a population, when our entire population, has been reduced to this level as spiritual, emotional cripples. Total cripples! We in no way, shape, or form, be ready for the reality that we have to deal with, which is survival in an environment that is going to radically become more hostile to us. When we are being flooded by basically, well, millions of Third World, they call them migrants, hey these is the very worst thing that we could possibly allow to happen.

Because here we are, our children that are now confused about their gender, that have nothing, but their feelings as their main focal point, are now going to have to live, survive, in a world that is being flooded by millions of hostile young men, primarily, from Third World countries. This is a recipe for total, absolute disaster! And for people to bow to emotional tyranny, “Holocaust denier”! If anybody called me a “Holocaust” denier I’d say:

“Well, I’m just glad you didn’t insult me as being a “Holocaust believer! ”

When everybody knows that it’s a lie. Another thing you have to remember, Henrik, is that the mainstream media is falling at free fall speed!

Henrik: Yep, yep.

Alfred: About as fast as those three towers on 9/11 fell! Nobody looks at them anymore, nobody takes it seriously. And people are going to Red Ice and similar stations, you probably have one of the best sources around. That’s why they attacked you. That’s why they took you down and destroyed you in a very professional way. And I’m just so glad you guys came back up again. And don’t underestimate the importance of your work, and the responsibility that you carry to help to understand the reality that’s out there., because people are revolted by the mainstream media! They are revolted by our politicians. And they are craving for someone like your platform. Lana, what you guys are doing is just superb!

[21:14]

Henrik: Thank you.

Alfred: I just want to say that now. And I cannot say enough how much I appreciate that. And I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of people out there, that have the same sentiments I do, that I’m expressing to you now. But they don’t tell you. But it’s out there. So don’t underestimate the importance of what you’re doing and, you know, stay strong! Stay safe!

Henrik: Thank you. Yeah, and I mean, exactly. And we could have been in a situation where we just didn’t talk about these issues, or didn’t go in this direction, but as many people know, who’s been with us for a long time, I’ve always just been a “Truth Seeker”. That’s what it’s been about! And, of course, about philosophy, philosophical topics, and kind of getting to the nature of reality and these kinds of things as well.

But when I started waking up to, you know, specifically the migrant invasion and what happened to Sweden, to my own country, back in, for a serious way, back in 2013, 14, something like that. I knew about it before hand, I had done some shows on like Barbara Spectre, you know, on these kinds of issues that have had risen up at that point. But it wasn’t the only thing after that point, when I researched some of the history and got really just engaged in the ancient culture of my country, that I felt for the first time that something is being lost! Something incredibly unique and important to me, and my identity, is being lost. And I realized that I had to fight for that!

And I put everything that Red Ice does, really on the line, because we ventured into an area where even most truth seekers never tread, right? They don’t dare! They don’t want to! They disagree politically and all these kinds of things and it’s just too much. We took an immense risk by going into that area. Talking about migration, talking about the JQ [Jewish Question]. And, you know, who is behind things, and why they’re doing it to us. What their ultimate goal is. Talking about White genocide, population replacement, and these kinds of issues.

[23:10]

But again, my stance has always been we have to go where the truth leads us. It’s an observable reality of what is happening in Europe and America right now. And that’s what I want to talk about. And we have to go in that direction. So I appreciate, you know, you mentioning that, because we could have, I would never have done it, but I’m saying for the sake of it, we could have just kind of avoided that and continue on the path as usual. But I feel that wouldn’t have been the responsible thing to do. Wouldn’t have been the right thing to do, and I would have been lying to myself. And I just I couldn’t do that. So thanks for mentioning that.

Alfred: Another very important thing that anybody working in trying to understand the truth has to have the strength, the character strength to also admit that we believed in lies!

Henrik: Exactly!

Alfred: You see I admit I believed a lot of nonsense and made bad decisions based on the nonsense. I was myself was demoralized and allowed myself to be distracted, because I was so demoralized. And I’m just so grateful that I was able to come to the point where we find ourselves today, and to come out of that condition., because once you come out and once you understand the truthful things, you know, you look at people that choose to remain in the comfortable way, or that they think is comfortable. Sit on the couch and watch TV and believe the lies. They become insignificant. There’s no content in their lives, they’re just nothing!

When this system collapses and those people who understand the truth will be obliged to be leaders of the hundreds, or thousands, of other people, because these zombies will need leadership! They are not even capable of anything anymore. And that’s why it’s important that we just articulate the findings, the conclusions that we come to based on evidence, and so forth, in a way that other people find motivation and interest in understanding it. To come to our side, because the zombies, as long as they believe these lies, and as long as they still emotionally react to these control trigger words, they are not really functioning human beings! Our ancestors would be abhorred, if they saw how people today allow themselves to be driven basically with words! Simple words, that are hysterically projected on them in an emotional way.

I mean, you see the pictures you’re showing right now, I mean, these people coming in they’re filled in their minds with completely different programs than we have been filled with.

Henrik: Yeah.

Alfred: We have been filled with programs that make us submissive and “tolerant” and we have no self-confidence, no nothing. They [invaders] come in here with a sense of entitlement! And they want something, they were promised all kinds of things. And a lot of these people coming in, they paid their family savings to some smuggler of people, to come to get the house, and the woman, and the car, that was promised! And when they don’t get it, they get angry, and they’ll just go and get it!

That’s what they do. The Talmudic jews, they program people and bring them together and then they make them go at each others throats. And then they try to come and say:

“Oh, we’ll be the referee and we’ll get this all sorted out again! ”

And it is a turmoil! It is a disaster! We have to regain our independence, our territorial independence, our spiritual independence, our souls, our history! We have to find our identity and it is our obligation.

Henrik: Tell us why you think it’s done in this way., because that would seem as a contradiction. We’ve been over this many times on the show, but again we’re talking about this from the from a point of view of having the newcomer in mind, and that’s why it’s important to go over things, over, and over again.

[27:07]

And so, you would think, … Let’s take the city of Malmo, for example, in Sweden. Where many of the jews in Malmo have been willing, or they’ve been kind of driven out, actually, to a certain extent. They’ve left, because there are so many Muslims that are coming in and controlling large sections of those areas, that they are no longer safe. They can’t walk around with their yamakas [yarmulkes (pronounced “yamakas”, a Yiddish word taken from the Polish word for skullcap)], or kippa, whatever it is, in the street. They can’t be visible about who they are. And then you have people like Barbara Spectre. It’s a perfect reference, because it shows someone for the first time, someone [a jew] really openly talking about it.

There’s many others too that we’ve referenced like Annahecker Harnee[sp], Noel Ignatiev, there is people in Germany, like Gregor Gysi that’s talking about this. Many politicians too, in Germany talking about the replacement, basically. And that Europe has to become multi-cultural.

But tell us about that seeming contradiction that if they bring in lots of Muslims into Europe, then those jewish populations that are in Europe, are going to be targeted themselves. At least those on the street level, maybe not the elite ones, you know, that are owning banks and media corporations and stuff like this. But why is it beneficial for them to do that, when you think, initially, that would be something that hurts their own people?

Alfred: If you see this all in the context of the big picture. I’m talking about from the biological point of view. And when I say a biological perspective, I say that looking at us as the White race, the European peoples, and the onslaught of the jew, as a parasite, on the White race to eradicate, or weaken the White race, to the point of not being a hindrance to the jews quest for world domination.

Now the jew, as a parasite, will never be able to dominate a functioning planet, but these invaders are an instrument used to destroy us! To breed us down, and basically destroy us. But that is the mind of the psychopathic parasite. This strategy may have worked as long as the jew was going from one European tribe to the next, when one was destroyed it could just sort of slither out the back door before it completely collapsed and go to the next host and start all over there. And this was so successful.

[29:45]

Then the technological revolution was somehow very conducive to this behavior. Let’s look at it in the United States and the film industry, and Hollywood, and so forth. Now the jews never invented anything at all. They just took everything over after we invented it. Look at Thomas Edison. Well, he might have invented the movie cameras and stuff like that, but the jews seemed to have taken over Hollywood and got total control of it. As well as all the media, and everything else. They don’t invent, or create! They just infiltrate and take over, and then use it for their devious purposes. Their business model basically is, now that we have kvetched and sucked as much out of these European peoples as we can, we are so close to world domination, now we have to get rid of them, before they figure it out and retaliate with the retribution that’s coming coming down their way. And that’s the situation we have.

So it’s really the final showdown — them, or us! And everything they have done so far, has brought us to this point — them, or us!

Now they want to exterminate us, well if we reverse that one hundred eighty degrees, then we have to exterminate them! And they’re trying to prevent that with “thought laws”! That we cannot even express this natural biological response that is necessary for us to survive. They’re trying to make it illegal! And that’s not going to work, you see, because this is a biological thing, and the jew knows it. And the more draconian that they come with their pathetic thought laws, people don’t let themselves be driven by that anymore, except the zombies.

But the zombies, they all have to be put down. I mean, I know it sounds really cruel for a moment. But if you have a dog at home and you have conditioned this dog to just bite any blonde person that comes along, for whatever reason. Now you decide that wasn’t a good idea, I want to deprogram the dog. Well if you cannot, if you’re not able to deprogram the dog what are you going to do? You will put it down as a sick dog.

Now, I don’t want to talk about our people as being sick dogs, but if we have people that prefer to keep the programs that they have been programmed with, through the psychological warfare that they have been indoctrinated with. If they choose to continue running on these programs, they are not a functioning human being. They are, in fact, standing in the way, serving as our enemies! And the jews even gloat about the fact that they will get the “goyim” to be instruments of their own destruction!

And these people, these lefties, these communists, our people who throw us in jail, who come and steal my computers, for example, these are our people! And they have been conditioned to do that, and they have to understand — that’s what I told them when they were here just yesterday morning. I said:

“You guys will all be held to account, and I hope you guys have some pretty good reasons figured out, because it’s not far away. We know your names, we have your faces. Lists are being compiled. And you need to understand what treason is, and you need to understand what theft is! So you figure it out. You’ve got to live with it! ”

I’d rather go to jail. I told them I would rather be dead than doing what you are doing now, stealing my computers!

This is a final battle between the lie, and deceit, and deception, and our survival! And by God we’ve got to get this right! And we are going to get this right. I know we’re going to get it, right!

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Henrik: All right, a couple of couple of things there, Alfred. Okay, so the first one I feel it’s important to touch on is, of course, the severity of the situation, and explaining that there is a conflict. It’s very difficult to explain to someone who doesn’t see the on-goings of the world as an existential battle. It’s very easy, I think, for people to be at a point where, … I don’t know what to call it. Like we made it, right? There’s no war, no major wars, no world wars anymore at least. You know, largely in the West, where we’re safe, it’s fine with it’s prosperity somewhat. I know things are bring degraded slowly. But overall, if you just kind of go along to get along, watch the TV, you have access to your cheap calories, as it were. It would seemingly be, “everything’s okay” right?

But what people don’t understand, is that underneath all this, including what the globalists are up to, and stuff like that, there is an intense battle going on for the future of this planet! Of both ownership and control, and who’s going to run things, and stuff like that. And we have to try to explain to people that it’s like no! There are people out there that see you as an existential threat, and they want to control you, or manage you, or replace you, or whatever the situation might be for that individual group.

But there’s people meddling. And it’s at a such a point now when we look at the migrant invasion, and stuff like that. And some of the comments we have from people themselves, that are openly talking about population replacement, and that this is about swamping Europe. We have to get to a point where we realize that it is existential. It is a battle for survival!

Most Europeans are not at that position yet, because we don’t see it that clearly. It’s still somewhat behind closed doors. It’s only the people there really are looking at the stuff, that are finding the quotes, they’re keeping up with the news and stuff like that. And that’s frankly too much for most normies out there! They go along to get along. They don’t understand that this is a battle.

So what you’re talking about, when you talk about this intense struggle that’s going on between these different groups, I think is very difficult for them to wrap their heads around it. And I also think, that they think, that it is dangerous — and partially I would agree with them — to, for example, group everyone together as a unit in certain situations. There’s always people who are going to break that mold. There’s other people from the group that will talk against what the group is doing and stuff like that.

[36:02]

So I see the danger in that. But I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but when you were talking about the jewish group, you’re talking about primarily the “organized”, those who have organized efforts? I mean, there are people like Gilad Atzmon, who is jewish, but he talks about the kind of things that we talk about. I certainly have no need to go after him, or some of the people that are on our side, who don’t have a problem with us, right? [laughing] So there is some clarification that I think could be made for the newcomer there. That is not only about grouping people together, but you’re talking about those who are actively, as an interest group, engaged in replacing us, or bringing in migrants, or openly talking about the kind of things that are, frankly, should be a crime against humanity. But how do you see this, and how do we explain it to people?

Henrik: Good. First of all, those people who think everything is fine, there’s no war. No! There’s a war going on right now. We are now in the final phase of the “War of the jew” to dominate this world. And you have to see what we call “World War One” and “World War Two” in this context. And they needed this period of time to get us in the position that we’re in right now. And see, a lot of the jews themselves are also victims of this insanity. But they are acting as a group. And that’s why I say that jews need to understand that they are being coerced, or led, acting as a group. And as such, they will be dealt with as a group, when this healing process begins.

They are, I’ve often said, those at the top, those top jews actually hate their own people more than they hate us. They are so extremely self-centered and selfish, that they will risk using their own people as a human shield for when the inevitable retribution comes. And they don’t care! And those jews that haven’t personally done anything wrong, they’re just living their lives, they haven’t lied and cheated, like most jews do.

I’m sure there’s some out there that are innocent. Now these jews, … This is a time for them to come out and start to, for example, help get Monika out of prison, okay? This is something they can really put themselves on record as having done, which they will benefit from, when this lie goes over. They can say:

“Look! Here’s my accountable evidence that I tried to fight for the truth.”

Any jew that attacks us for being “Holocaust” deniers is guilty! And see, this is where even Gilad Aztmon, unfortunately, very recently, he used to claim he’s an “ex-jew”, but he still had so much jewishness in him, that he actually talked about the “Holocaust” as if it were real!

[38:57]

Any mention of the “Holocaust” without qualifying it, for the fraud and lie that it is, is making a person guilty! The “Holocaust” and anybody who tries to hold that up, is guilty! That’s as simple as I can put it. I mean, I’m not going to be the judge where this thing goes down. The people in the world are going to be judging it. And I’m just saying, I’m doing everything I can. We are trying to resolve this peacefully! And peacefully means we have to face the facts, no matter what they are! We need to, don’t ignore 9/11, because jews did 9/11, and we don’t want to talk about it!

You know, I notice they’re talking more, a lot about USS Liberty now. But we need to talk about 9/11! We need to talk about Israel! We need to talk about the entire agenda that is being played out against us! Okay? , because the biological response is coming! And that’s what we are witnessing now. If you outlaw bad weather, and I’m the weatherman, and I predict bad weather, what are you going to do? Shoot me, because I’m predicting a storm?

Henrik: Right.

Alfred: We’ve got the set up for a perfect storm. We are facing the perfect storm! And we have to prepare ourselves for that. So those people who are sitting on the couch thinking it’s all nice and quiet, … I crossed the Atlantic on a sailboat a number of times, and before a bad storm, it can be really nice on deck. But if you don’t get ready for it, with your sails, with just everything you have to do it, you will not survive the storm!

We are coming into a storm and when we have masses of people that do not belong to us in our cities, and our infrastructure breaks down, we will have to deal with these people! And dealing with them will not be pretty! , because them going around taking what they want, is not the solution. It’s going to be, too many people on limited territory, with even more limited resources, and this used to be our territory! It used to be our civilisation!

And now we have our young people, they don’t even know which gender they are! Now do you understand what I’m getting at?

Henrik: Sure.

Alfred: Now they’re not confused about their gender, because that’s natural, that did not come, you know, as a natural organic kind of development. That came, because they were indoctrinated that way, by the jews! Not by us! By the jews! And that’s something that is a fact. And nobody can dispute that fact. So that’s what we’re facing so, you know, that’s what I think.

Henrik: Yeah, I think what you said there too is an important point. And I’ve heard others, frame it in that way too. And I believe that there’s something to that. That basically the conditions that have been created, this powder keg condition really, that has been created, is something that people need to be aware of that it’s going to blow up! I’m with you on that page too. I think that if things can be solved peacefully, they should be. They should be addressed and tackled before it gets to that point.

But that’s where most people decide to look away. And they say:

“No, it’s too difficult, it is too painful”, or “I don’t want to be called a racist for opposing migration.”

Or whatever, despite the fact that they can see with their own eyes and experience in the real world, that things are getting worse in their own country. They’re being sidelined by their own government. Other people are being favored, before them, etc. Like, it’s their duty to save others and take care of others before their own people.

[42:31]

So, what you’re saying, and what I’ve heard other people say too, is that there’s an awful lot of anger and resentment, because of that. That’s building up, right? That eventually, down the line, if it gets that far, we don’t know where this is going to go. We don’t know if, let’s say the Europeans start fighting back, right? And all of a sudden it turns into, all of Europe turns into a Bosnia, or Kosovo, or something like that, right?

Let’s assume the rest of the world descends on Europe, and like, cleans it, cleans it out! , because we dared to fight back, against people that are trying to invade our lands. And once they’ve turned really hostile in an open level towards us, or something like that, who knows where this is going to go.

But my point is, it should be resolved at this point. It should be addressed at this point, before it gets too far., because when people are realizing what has happened, they are probably going to ask questions:

“Well, how did this happen? And who did this? ”

And these kinds of things, right? So that’s an important step, Alfred, in the process of just recognizing that isn’t it better to try to tackle and address these things now? And to try to prevent just the reaction of anger, and violence, and resentment, to bloom in the world! , because that’s when it really is going to start getting ugly, and you’re not going to be able to straighten anything out at that point.

You are not going to be able to make, you know, up, or down of anything, at that point. It’s just the going to be utter chaos! And I don’t want to see that! I know my lot of people don’t want to see that, either! So that’s why we have to address it. We have to be honest about what is going on. Why it’s happening. Who’s doing it [laughing] and try to straighten it out politically! And with political will, because I still think there is time to do that. We’re not a minority yet, in most of our countries. It’s heading that way.

Wait another five, ten years in some countries, and it’s going to start heading in that way. But there’s still time. But it’s an incredibly difficult situation, because when these things have happened historically, if we’re honest about this and look at, you know, World Wars and conflicts on this level, and this scale, there’s always people who don’t deserve something, that have been squeezed in this situation. And they have taken the brunt end of what other people have done. And it’s kind of a messy situation, if, you know, what I mean.

[44:48]

Alfred: Absolutely! And going back to what you were saying before. Our empathy, or our bad feelings, or our guilt, and so forth, our pathological altruism is being used so against us. And part of the solution is overcoming these words that are triggering unhealthy responses, for example, “racist”, or “anti-semitism”. These are weaponized words that should be called out, as “marked cards” in a card game that we’re playing.

Anytime this word comes, stop it in it’s tracks and do never, ever, apologize! , because these are marked cards. If you’re playing a card game, and it’s about life and death, it’s about your future and your existence, and then sometime deep into the game, you realize you are being dealt marked cards, what do you do? I would call these cards out on the spot! And say:

“That is a marked card! And explain that one to me! ”

So when somebody says:

“Oh! If you do that, you’re a racist! ”

I say:

“Pardon me. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Are you telling me that there is no difference between a race horse and a plow horse? Are you telling me, I am a race conservationist? ”

I want to conserve the races for what they are. They’re very different and that’s good. I am for multi-culturalism, and if we just sort of mix them all together, it’s a little bit like if I took your body, Henrik. Your bones are too White and hard, your brain is too gray and gooey, your liver is too brown and gooey, so I’m going to put you through the blender. Now I’ve got you multi-culturalized, but you’re very dead! That’s what this multiculturalism is with these people coming in, these hordes is going to do to us.

And remember, it was the Europeans that are responsible for well over ninety percent of all technological inventions, that make our life what we know it today. And I’m not talking just about these inventions, I’m talking about music, and all these other things. And if we don’t keep this continent exclusively European, all that will be gone!

I mean, our ancestors would never have achieved what they achieved, because they allowed the hordes out of Africa, or Asia to overwhelm them, because it was a good place to have a free lunch. You see, all these people coming and now, they’re coming here, because it’s a free lunch! They are actually people that are turning their backs on their own people, for a free lunch, at the cost of the Europeans!

Now when you see a city like Malmo, or something, and there’s no Swedes left in there anymore, but all kinds of, there’s Muslims all over the place wearing hijabs, and so forth. Hey! That’s a colonization! They have colonized you! Now when your forefathers, the Vikings, I mean, they would roll over it disgust and shame, when they see what’s happened to their offspring! Their little boys are not even sure that they’re boys anymore! That, you know, that they think that this is a joke, or something! It’s not a joke, this is survival!

Henrik: Yeah, and it is.

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Alfred: And we do not have to, we are not obliged to feel sorry for any of these people. They have their homes! Ask them, why do you turn your back on your own people!

Henrik: Exactly!

Alfred: You’ve something here? Then go back home! You’ve got your place. This is ours! And if you don’t understand what that means? Well see what happens to you if you stick around., because I’ll tell you, if you think the mood is getting bad now, just look around and see where it’s going. It’s not going to get prettier!

Henrik: No. That’s just it, and it’s horrendous, you know, that it’s that’s in the direction where it goes to. I still think, you know, I still think that the level of compassion that we have seen in the Indo-European mind, if you will, that we’re the ones who pushed the Human Rights. We’re the ones who came with the aspect of equality and egalitarianism. And although there’s follies in those proposals, those philosophical ideas, or errors in those ideas, I still think that appealing to compassion among our own people is still the successful recipe.

I know that there’s a lot of people out there, they’re way beyond that, they’re like, they’re ready to go to war, that kind of thing. They’re pissed off! They’re upset about this. They truly hate in that regard. And that isn’t their fault, they have been pushed in that direction.

But just from a strategy kind of point of view, if that’s the right word to use, I think it was Frank Salter who talked about that. He said, and I think it was a good point, he said:

“You’re not going to initially get the majority of European people to drop the aspect of equality and compassion. But those are elements that you have to work with.”

You have to steer the conversation, not by coercion, because I think it’s just the truthful past, but you have to show that the long-term picture. That well, due to the compassion and the equality, and all those things that you’re enforcing right now. It is going to turn into a hellish scenario later on! We have to see the long-term picture, not just the short-term gratification that these people feel good, you know, internally, or emotionally. That:

“Oh I did something good today! ”, or, “I help people”, or “I don’t say no! ”

You know:

“I’m pro open borders, and therefore I’m a better person than you! ” and “I’m open hearted and loving.” and all that stuff.

My point is, no! If you truly were open-minded, open hearted and warm, and have compassion in your heart, and thinking about people’s welfare in the future, you would see the big picture and say:

“No! Wait a minute. This is leading to disaster, and so let’s try to prevent that.”

So I’m what I’m saying, Alfred, is just I think that there’s still an unused, untapped territory within this debate in this topic, where we can try to show to our people that what you’re advocating for, if you’re a liberal, and if you’re open hearted like this. That, that path is going to lead to misery and conflict at the end of it. And if we can show that, there is some hope to turn more people over to our side if, you know, what I mean., because I’m certainly, I don’t come from a perspective of hate, although I understand why some people have become hateful, but I think it’s a very important to still appeal to compassion. Still appeal to the traits within us that are unique, to a certain extent, and that are much more open really, than many other groups around the world. What do you think about?

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Alfred: Yeah. Since my own awakening and really understanding the absolute lies that have been foisted on us, I have, and you’re talking about love and compassion, I have a love and a compassion, and an understanding, for our ancestors, my parents, their grandparents, and so forth. That I never had before.

And before, when I was still mentally ill, because of the indoctrination. I was a zombie okay, I confess, I was a zombie! There’s nothing shameful about that. We are all zombies at some time. There’s very few people that weren’t. And I did not have that respect, I sort of saw my ancestors as they were sort of anonymous, kind of far away. And now since understanding what they have gone through, as Germans, you know, and the expelling out of the east, the genocide, and so forth. And Dresden, and all these things, I have a compassion and an understanding and respect for them I never knew I had.

And it’s like, I think it was Plato had said, that “people without roots have no direction”. And you have to understand your forefathers to have roots. These are our roots! And somebody who thinks they’re a good person, because everybody is equal, they’re just believing just total nonsense!

I mean, look at the birds. Are all the birds the same? No. There’s sparrows, there’s seagulls, there’s hawks. There’s all kinds of different birds. They’re not all the same! And neither are we! Have you ever seen a pygmy excel at high jumping? And I haven’t. So they’re not equally see. Now, if Europeans and Africans are the same, why is it that the Africans didn’t even invent so much as the wheel, and we invented all kinds of fancy things? Everything!

When you see Africans walking around now in our cities with the latest iPhone, well good for them. But they didn’t invent those things. They got them given to them by people like George Soros. So, we are not equal! So anybody who says, you know:

“Oh, if you think everyone is equal, you’re a better person.”

I say these people are mentally retarded. They’re mentally crippled. They’re victims of the psychological warfare. They have been contaminated with these lies!

Henrik: It’s what is used against us to make sure that we agree with the agenda. They’ve found a kind of code, a mechanism in us, by using our compassion against us, right? They’ve used, to certain extent, our strength against us, and said — it’s not our only strong ability obviously, but it’s a big part of it — and they’ve unlocked that, and said:

“You know what, let’s twist and turn the situation like this, and say you’re compassionate if you allow XYZ, and that’s kind of, … It’s like a code that they’ve broken, right?

[54:00]

Alfred: Yes. They use our strong characteristics and turn them around so elegantly, slowly over a period of time, and then, until we use it against us. Our women are standing some place with “Refugees Welcome” [signs]. That is absolute suicide! In past generations, had any women done that, they would have been flogged! They would have been thrown out of society. They would have been the most disgusting pieces a crap, pardon my language, but that’s what it is.

And here they are being, by the jewish media, they are being held up in high esteem, as the most honorable people! They are doing something treasonous, that is suicidal. And that is our demise! We are not equal! No. Get that idea out of your mind.

We are very different, and that’s good that we’re different. We grew up in different geographies, at different rates, at different times. That’s good, we’re all different, there’s nothing wrong with that, you know. And that’s the reality.

And like I said, when things get tight, and things get scarce, and we understand that we are defending the homeland, and the invaders are defending a free lunch, we have a different motivation to get back what is rightfully ours. And that’s what I’m confident that we’re going to do this right!

Henrik: Right. The last final point on this Alfred, before we start rounding up here.

Obviously the migration, the refugee waves, and all that kind of stuff that we’ve seen, it’s a very kind of, “in your face” and direct assault, an attack. At these for those who are paying attention. Again [laughing] many others see this as, “oh! I’m helping! ” you know, it’s like Ralph Wiggum.

But here’s other ways, there’s a cold, if that’s the hot war, so to speak, or a warm war, and there’s a cold war as well. And we just briefly talked about this in the break. For example, what happened in the wake of Charlottesville, stuff like that. A lot of things unfolded after that point. We don’t have to get into all that, it’s a big story. But what triggered that is, of course, that people were basically, they wanted to protest against the removal of statues in the South, for example, in the States. And this is something that happens in many parts of Europe now, as well. The UK have started, I believe Germany is on that path to. Where basically if it’s an old the dead White guy, right, then that needs to be torn down and attacked and stuff like that.

But, just for a moment, maybe we can talk about what an act of, not only violence, but as you say, it’s colonialism. It’s just full on takeover where, you know, the people who built our countries that have given everyone in that country the fruits of what they have, included those newcomers, that have just come in. The utter disrespect and the utter, I just, it’s disgusting! I don’t know what else to call it. The way that they are tearing down these statues, they’re renaming schools, they’re removing our history. They’re just rewriting it as if these men never existed at all! That’s what I feel it’s about. It’s almost like it is sleight of hand of saying, you know, this never existed! There’s no such thing as a White country! It’s like a Jeddi mind trick, or something.

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Alfred: This is one of the symptoms of the genocide that is being perpetrated against us! See, if we don’t even respect those people who our ancestors knew were real true heroes, like Robert E. Lee was a real true hero! Now when they take any of these statues down we should be out there by the thousands, or the hundreds of thousands, and keep that statue up! And if you take one down, we put at one that’s twice as big, in it’s place! How can anybody respect us if we have such low self-respect, that we allow anybody — the jews are the ringleaders of those people taking these things down — that is our identity. Those are our ancestors! We are all we are all obliged to be even just only half as heroic, and keep that statue up there!

And like I said, they take one down, we to put one twice as big back up, and another one on top! Like we cannot let that happen. That is our genocide!

Henrik: Right! Showing some of the pictures here, this is from Dallas. It’s amazing this has happened, in so many places, around the US, right now. They just take these statues down. Here’s a Robert E. Lee Park in Arlington, in Dallas. It’s just absolutely amazing that these boys here, the cops, the suits, they just line up to defend this action. I don’t think they know truly what they’re doing. But I hope that they’re angry. I hope that some know. I hope that some realize.

Alfred: Because this is the jew!

“The goyim will be agents, instruments of their own destruction!”

When our security people are making sure they can remove these statues, yeah, it’s like saying:

“Let me stick this knife into my heart. Let me just kill myself! And let’s have everybody help me kill myself!”

This is our suicide! These are real points, this is a real actionable item if you want to say. Taking down a statue like that should not happen! That should be put back in there, no matter how we do it, we have to get the statues back to where they were.

What are they going to put there in it’s place? A statue of Martin Luther King, you know, this drinking, partying, sex pervert that they stylized up to be our hero and make a national holiday! Taking our ancestors, our heroes that built the country, down, and putting these perverts in their place? Putting some fagot their place? No, no, no! That can’t be it. If we are that weak and cannot prevent that from happening, then we will deserve the demise that we will be facing.

Henrik: All right. Interesting conversation. Lot to chew on here, of course. Let’s see what people think. Lots of interesting points, Alfred. I want to thank you for your time today. It was very interesting having you back and, of course, I want to wish you and your sister the best, in the whatever now, is going to happen. The legal battles.

[60:07]

I mean, it’s a is an extraordinary situation, and I urge and I hope, no matter if people agree, or not, with the kind of things that Monika and yourself talk about, that they recognize that this is a clear violation of all the things that they claim that they’re fighting for, for other people.

So it should be a huge free speech issue! There should be number of people just rallying to this cause, getting vocal and loud about it, making sure that they help Monika out of prison and then that she gets not only fair treatment, but that they explain to her, why they’re holding her, and that she actually can reach out to you.

So, is there anything, last words you like to say about, if you guys have a strategy, legally, to get her out, or what?

Alfred: The strategy is there’s no way to get her out legally! We’re going to get her out with pure pressure! People writing letters. Write her letters make sure that, you know, you see through their lies. The address, it’s in multiple blogs. Go to the “We are Monika” blog and the address is there. Write, the political prisoner Monika Schaefer, and so forth. You don’t have to write much. Just say, we’re thinking of you, and thanks for your struggle.

See: Andrew Hitchcock with Alfred Schaefer – How YOU Can Help Monika Schaefer! — TRANSCRIPT

And we are at war with insanity! Okay? This is a war against thinking, working, people. And if we don’t win, then this earth is going to become a hell hole! So we are trying to basically save civilization, we’re going to do this as peacefully as possible as possible in a civilized way as possible. And jews have the opportunity now to prove that they are actually not guilty, by making an effort to get Monika out! Write a letter, you know, say and write that:

“I’m a jew and I will I think it’s not right and the “Holocaust”, I’m sorry that we’re part of this monstrous lie.”

That would be a good start and can be very good in your defence when this lie goes over.

I would not want to be a jew at this point in time, if I didn’t do something to help bring the truth out! And that’s about all I can say at this point. Thank you.

Henrik: Sure, you got it! So there’s the address anyway right there on the screen, but it’s a video right there on the link to the website, that will leave down below, as well. So check that out folks.

Thank you so much Alfred for coming on. Keep us posted on in terms of what’s going on. I’m really interested in following the case, and I wish you and your sister all the best. And thank you for daring to speak your truth and following through on it. I know that there’s tremendous pressure involved in that. I know it’s incredibly difficult but, you know, for you guys to dare to walk your own path, that’s an extraordinary thing to do in these times of conformity. So thank you Alfred.

Alfred: Thank you Henrik. Thank you.

Henrik: Well guys, that concludes our show. A big “Thank You” to all our members. We are really picking up the frequency of shows and videos, and Weekend Warrior shows.

Once again, we’re really excited about this year. A lot of good things are in the works and a lot of exciting things are going to happen. We have a lot of plans. So thank you for being part of Red Ice for supporting us for helping us to grow. Take care folks and we’ll be back before you know it! See you soon.

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Red Ice TV – Thought Criminal Monika Schaefer Arrested and Imprisoned in Germany – Part 1 — TRANSCRIPT

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[Henrik of Red Ice Radio interviews Canadian-German activist Alfred Schaefer on the situation surrounding his sister’s arrest on Jan 3 this year, in Germany, for making a video called “Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust“. In Part 1 here, Alfred explains the intellectual journey that both of them took to arrive at the position that Western Civilization is being destroyed by organized jewry through a long term strategy of psychological and physical subversion, with them, for example, being the power behind the invasion of Western countries by non-Whites.

Write to Monika now, at:

Monika Schaefer.
Stadelheim Prison.
Schwarzenbergstr. 14
81549 München,
GERMANY.

Red Ice TV

Alfred Schaefer

Thought Criminal

Monika Schaefer

Arrested and Imprisoned

in Germany

PART 1

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Published on Jan 27, 2018

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In the members’ hour, Henrik and Alfred talk about the fractured nature of facts surrounding the nature of the Holocaust itself and the need for further research. The conversation then addresses the migrant crisis and how it constitutes a threat to Western civilization and how it can be viewed as a destructive companion phenomenon to Holocaust guilt and other Leftist propaganda. The conversation turns to the freefall of the mainstream media, how people crave alternative media sources, and the importance of outlets like Red Ice. Henrik speaks to the risk involved with pursing the truth about the migrant crisis, its origins, and underlying motivators. The discussion then turns to the seeming contradictions of population replacement.

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TRANSCRIPT

(54 mins)

[00:00]

Henrik: Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Henrik here with Red Ice TV. Thank you so much for tuning in. It’s always a pleasure having you with us. Today we have a issue of free speech coming to you a little bit over a year ago we had a gentleman called Alfred Schaefer on the show. I think we had him on twice actually, and his sister as well, Monika. We did a show with her. She had actually done a five-minute video that was called, “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “Holocaust”. Which was a very good video. It was an honest, very down-to-earth video about her own kind of personal and emotional experiences growing up in Germany [Canada], all the things that she was taught, etc. And [01:01] her basically waking up to a kind of a different story, if you will.

And this has, in hindsight, caused a ruckus not only, of course, in Canada where she and Alfred was living, but now they’ve gone back to Germany. And they’re it’s, you know, this has intensified, if you will. So we have Alfred back with us on the show here today. And I shall go through some of this and talk a bit more in detail about what actually happened. And I want to Alfred. Welcome first of all, but I want everyone, kind of don’t assume that people know the case. Let’s talk about it from the beginning and what actually happened Alfred.

Alfred: Good. I’ll just go back to the summer of 2016. Monika was here with Professor Tony Anthony Hall and we did a number of video productions. And what really rocked the boat here was a five, or six minute video that Monika did, one in German, one in English. It’s called “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust”. And in this video, a very heartfelt video, she explained how she [02:02] growing up in Canada as a German. And how the propaganda, when we started being indoctrinated with the propaganda, the people in school like back at that time, the Germans were vilified, really vilified, to the max!

That was like twenty years after, well that was in the 60s so that was 20 years after the end of hostilities, of what we call World War Two. And Monika described how she experienced that as a youngster in school, when she wore her traditional German dress and how the people mocked her. And then she started reproaching, to she eventually reproached our parents, particularly her our mom, for what the evil Nazis did., because when you are told as a little child these kinds of stories you just assume that you’re being told the truth, you just would not imagine that you would be lied to by those people who you trust who you look up to.

[03:02]

Anything they tell you believe it. I mean, that’s our nature. If you’re growing up and your parents tell you to this, or that you have to believe it, because if you don’t you wouldn’t survive. If your parents tell you don’t go jumping in that pond, because there’s alligators there and you don’t listen, well you get eaten by the alligators. So it’s our nature, our inherent nature to believe what we are told.

And this has been used against us to inculcate us and indoctrinate us with these stories which vilify our own ancestry, our own heritage. So Monika went to her mom and she says:

“Mom why didn’t you do something to stop these evil Nazis?”

And so forth. And then later on, not that long ago, she figured out, “well geez this is all lies”. And she told me that once and I says:

“You know, Monika we have to make a video out of that!”

So we did that. She wrote a beautiful text. She was here on a visit and she gets in front of the [04:01] camera and we made this video, “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust”.

And it got it really took off well. And then the Israeli, the jews got wind of it. And it was all over the Israeli press it in multiple languages. They were just really:

“Wow, you know, this politician Canadian politician denies the “Holocaust” in a video!”

And what really shook them, rattled their cage, was there had not been a video of this kind before, where you’re really basically undoing so much of the psychological warfare they have done against us. And this was basically undoing it in one big swoop.

So they were very nervous about that. And they tore her to pieces! And vilified her! And then when Monika went back to Jasper [Alberta, Canada], she had to endure the most extreme ritual defamation you could possibly imagine. And thank God that Monika has [05:00] the spirit that she does, because not many people would have survived that. I mean, she basically lost pretty much all her violin students, and people were strongly:

“No! You’re not welcome here!”

It was just like the witch trials 300 to 400 years ago. Just amazing.

Henrik: Yeah! Exactly! That’s absolutely true and it’s amazing that of course, you know, we don’t even have to get into the mechanics of what it is that Monika actually believes. It’s the audacity that she has come to a different conclusion that other people, than the masses, than the majority. I mean, I we know, of course, that this is punishable a crime in many countries now to think differently about a historical event.

Which is amazing and it amazing that so few free speech activists come out in support of these people who have come to a different conclusion. And in it’s in this case I think they want to make an example, not only out of her, but we know other scenarios in Germany, like Sylvia Stolz, of course. And I forget the older lady’s name now, obviously you, you know.

Alfred: Ursula Haverbeck.

[06:02]

Henrik: Exactly. Haverbeck. Thank you. Yes absolutely. So they’ve gone after older women on this now in Germany! I mean, it’s absolutely fascinating., but tell us first, how did, … Was in Canada did you guys decide to go back to Germany what happened there?

Alfred: Yeah she came she was wondering, she wanted us to, you know, we wanted to connect up again and she has a lot to do in Canada, so she figured sort of on the spur of the moment, she’s gonna go visit Alfred in Germany now at Christmastime. So she gets on the plane, you know, hops over here, and we have just a wonderful time. And I told my comrades here, you know, Monika’s coming and so forth. And then Henry Hoffenmayer says:

“Hey, we can go visit the trial of Sylvia Stolz, which is a Munich on the 3rd of January, if your sister’s here. We’ll just have a look at that.”

So it’s real spur-of-the-moment decision. We went there, we go there as quiet observers. And watching these proceedings was beyond bizarre. It really is an inquisition! They would refer we [07:02] were sitting in the back there, then in comes Sylvia Stolz and her attorney. And at the front are this decrepit snake of a state prosecutor, and the other people that are in there, which are, you know [Alfred laughs].

And then if Sylvia Stolz and her attorney would be, you’re talking about like explaining things, you know, this and that. And no matter how logically and precise they would explain something, the state prosecutor would brush it aside with just a simple, you know, “jibber-jabber” that didn’t even make sense. So this is the nature of an inquisition. An inquisition is like in the old days. They would put you in a sack, throw you out in the water, and if you sank you were innocent. And if you stayed on top, you are guilty and will be tortured. You cannot win in an inquisition. And these trials are an inquisition. There is no hope in hell and they try to bind these people [08:00] in this legal process here. To drain them of all their resources, tie them up.

I mean, if you see these people, how much money they are being paid by the taxpayer and by the poor victim! And it goes days and days and they just, it’s a jibber-jabber nonsense. It’s utter destructive nonsense!

Anyway, we were in that courtroom there and somebody behind us, or beside her, somewhere, said:

“Oh that must be Monika Schaefer! I mean, that’s her, we recognize her.”

And so they called for a surprise break about 45 minutes into the hearings there. And so we says okay, we stretch our legs, go outside. We step outside the room and then this different state prosecutor comes, accompanied by three very heavily, well armed thugs, kind of thing. And they asked her:

“Are you Monika Schaefer? Okay, come over here.”

They took her to the side and they were talking with her, slapped her [09:01] in handcuffs and dragged her off.

Henrik: Right there?

Alfred: Right there and then! Yeah.

Henrik: Absolutely! Did you get, I mean, did you guys have any suspicions about this, or like?

Alfred: No, no! It was a total surprise.

Henrik: Not paranoid to show up in public like, after that?

Alfred: And the funny thing is, I thought okay they must have, they probably arrested her for things that we had done while she was here., because we had a guy come from France, another, you know, a guy who was, well I hate using the word “revisionist”, a person exposing historical truth. And he came here, because he felt so alone there in Paris.

And when he was here, and he played the accordion, a really good accordion a player. And so Monika and him were making music every day. We were just doing cultural things. And one day we went to Andechs [a hilltop Benedictine monastery, church & medieval pilgrimage center with a brewery & a beer garden], which is a monastery nearby here with a beautiful beer garden and so forth. And we’re in this beer hall and then the brass band came in and it’s pretty filled up with people.

And Monika was [10:01] just so elated with energy, she stood up and gave the Roman salute! [both laughing] And, you know, what happened? Well somebody else behind her gave the Roman salute! And nobody came and, you know, and says, “Hey you Nazis!”, or anything. And people were chuckling and sort of, “Oh, what’s going on here?” But people were giving us a thumbs up and so forth.

And then, when she was arrested then a few days later at the court, at the “inquisition” of Sylvia Stolz, I was sure it was for this incident! , but it wasn’t. It was actually for “Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the “Holocaust”. So with this, I say this is the most spectacular “own goal” that I have ever seen anybody make! I mean, Sylvia Stolz, they were trying to basically put her, flush her down the memory hole. And they’d love it if Monika would just disappear., but now they have elevated both of these courageous women, right onto center stage on the world stage. And that’s where we need them.

Now this might be some discomfort for Monika for a while., but [11:02] the week that we had here before this happened, she had her batteries charged up to the max with wonderful dialogues we had. The conversations we had. With the cultural events with the Roman salute at Andechs there. And the positive feedback she got from that. So it’s good.

And now she knows, she’s very well aware of the importance of the role that she is in right now. And there’s no resolving this in their “jewdicial” system. We to resolve this on the political level. So we are going to amplify this and make it make it as embarrassing as possible for the powers that be. They need to know it is time to come out with a White flag and apologize for all these lies, because they cannot possibly stop it.

There’s trying to stop it with extreme censorship here. Oh, let me just say one thing. When Monika came here and before her arrest, and she’s doing her her mail, or emails [12:00] and we’re looking a lot on the internet, and she says:

“Geez, I feel like I’m in prison already everything! Is censored!”

All the stuff that she could still see in Canada, like videos and so forth, it’s all blocked here. It’s extreme censorship right now. And it’s accelerating. It’s intensifying. So they think, in their hubris, that they can keep the lies covered by censoring., but I always say, if you have a small child at home and you say, “do not look in this drawer here!” And then you go out of the room, where’s the first drawer that the person’s got the child’s going to look in? Precisely that drawer they’re not supposed to look. This is human nature and this our curiosity. And I mean, it’s our nature. We want to know what’s going on around us.

Henrik: Exactly. Well I mean, the important thing to remember too is, of course, that this is not hurting anyone. This is a victimless crime and it’s a personal investigation, if you will, that someone is doing into a historical event. It’s their choice, it’s not [13:01], you know, hurting anyone else.

And the fact is that I mean, we know that in Germany this has been made a crime. And I believe that, if I recall the statutes correctly, was basically it has been established by law what the history is. And if you do come with a different conclusion then you’re breaking that law of the established history. And so what has she found out consequently? Are you in communication with her every day, every other day, and what’s the charges and stuff like this? Tell us about that?

Alfred: Okay, first of all, we are trying to communicate with her. It is not possible. She is completely isolated from the outside world now. She’s not isolated from the other inmates, but she is completely isolated from us and the outside world. We had the Canadian Consulate go there and that was a not easy to get that arranged. But the Canadian Consulate did go there. Actually, as a woman and a man, a consul and the Consul General, or something like that. [14:00] And then they said afterwards:

“Well now, we were there and now we cannot visit her again for six months.”

That’s the rules they have. And they cannot get involved in the legalities. So it’s basically, well this is a dark time in our history, right now, that this is happening.

Henrik: And will Canada fight for it? I mean, if she’s not been extradited, … But how can she end up under the jurisdiction of German law? They haven’t explained this, I would reckon? They just snatched her, and that’s it?

Alfred: They snatched her! This is a completely illegal thing! This is outside of law and order as we know it. And, you know, I’ll tell you how obscene this whole thing has become. I was just raided a couple days ago, again, and it is, because of the shitstorm that we’re stirring up with Monika’s arrest. So they’re really unhappy now. But it shows that we’re on the right track, because even uncle Adolf, or Adolf Hitler, he used to say:

“If the jews are not attacking you, it’s, because your work is mediocre. It’s not really doing much.”

[15:00]

Once they notice you and they start attacking you, it’s, because they are afraid that you are making inroads into their construct of lies. So yeah, that’s where we are now.

Henrik: What about Canada? Have they as you said, okay they visited the consulate there, but have they not tried to say:

“Hey this is a Canadian citizen! You can’t just take him!” right?

Alfred: No! If you look at the Canadian government, they are even more repulsive and they are even lower down than the German government. All of our governments in the Western world right now are about as low as they can get! And that’s a problem now, because they have all been maneuvered into the positions that they find themselves in, because of their corrupt morals. They can be manipulated and they will do as their jewish masters expect them to! And no Canadian government, no German government, no government is going to help her!

[16:01]

This is something that we have to resolve basically from the bottom. From just a massive awareness. And right now, Monika is one of the most valuable fulcrums that we have to leverage this message out there. Because even those who think that life consists of sitting on a couch watching TV, even some of these zombies will start to understand that when they take somebody, throw her in jail, just arrest her on the spot, throw her in jail, because of a heartfelt apology to her mother!

At the same time that these hordes and hordes of military-age black and brown men, like a tsunami of them, are flowing into our countries, and they get a free pass to do anything they want! They even get helpers to show them how to get this and get that from our society! They get benefits and somebody who comes to the logical conclusion, because they’ve looked at the evidence they get thrown in jail [17:00]. That is something that needs to be addressed. And this is something that will affect each and every one of us. Nobody is going to escape this imbalance that we have in our system right now.

Henrik: Yeah definitely. There’s a legal inconsistency for sure here. I mean, there are actually victims of rape, etc., that are not getting the aid of the law. The full reach of the law, if you will. There are many people that actually walk free. I’ve heard cases, Lana [Henrik’s co-host and wife] did a video just a couple of weeks ago about a few of these cases, where they walk free. And I think some of the judges have said:

“Well they, it’s a cultural, they don’t understand the culture. They just need to be educated, basically.”

So they there let go! But the point is, that’s a clear crime with a victim. In this case, there’s no victim. No one is being hurt. But maybe someone is “offended” by it, right? Because these are awful opinions to have, or whatever. But there’s no victim here! And so the imbalance is just completely out of whack. And it’s clear to me that [18:00] they’re making examples out of these women to make sure that people are scared away from not only looking at this stuff, but basically they should be afraid of thinking for themselves. That’s ultimately what this is about I feel.

And they’ve picked off on this issue because, of course, it’s very important to them for people to be guilt-ridden, and basically have this new theology of guilt and victimhood. And this is the choice, right?

Alfred: Absolutely! Now there’s so many facets to this “Holocaust” lie. And right now I think it’s important that I focus all my work now on trying to articulate the big picture. I know Monika, when she was here, we came to the same conclusions. That once you understand the big picture, that the components of this big picture are much easier to understand. And they all make sense! It all falls into place!

It’s a little bit like if you’re standing really close to a huge picture, like a billboard, and you can only just see the big pixels, or something that [19:00] are this big and you cannot make any sense out of each of these pixels. But when you stand back and see the whole picture, it all makes sense. And this “Holocaust” thing, you know, some people think it’s just a scam for money. No, no, that’s just gravy that they sort of managed to harvest at this point in time.

But the real, or original purpose of the “Holocaust” was to divert attention away from the massive genocides that took place behind what was, what we used to call the Iron Curtain, under the name of communism. Now for us growing up in the West back then and when that Iron Curtain was still in place. What was behind the Iron Curtain separated us, we were the good people and the democrats, from the evil people. And those were the communists!

Now that’s the way that situation was interpreted for us. And it’s only now, in recent times, actually, quite recently for myself and like my sister Monika, and many other people, that we are beginning to [20:01] understand that both sides of this Iron Curtain were run by Talmudic jews, right from the start.

And as so if we want to understand the jewish problem, we have to actually go back, you know, for today’s world, basically to the French Revolution. But the jewish problem actually goes back thousands and thousands of years. And these people have honed their skills in manipulating people, having them at each other’s throats, that they start killing each other off. And the jew is there, controlling both sides, cleaning up and then penetrating ever deeper into the fabric of these peoples that have been at each other’s throats. And that’s what we see now.

Under communism there were genocides on the other side that killed tens of millions, possibly over a hundred million people, of the best people. And most of these were our brothers and sisters, our European kinfolk! They were just like us! [21:01] And they were butchered, massacred most brutally and — what better way to divert attention away from that, than this crazy “Holocaust” story? Plus, they had to have a way to justify — what they called the Allies, our European people that they manipulated — to bomb the hell out of the heart of Europe, which was Germany. To make sure that they could understand why they did it when they saw the mayhem, by vilifying those people that now lay traumatized and genocided and on the ground.

Just start making making up fantastic crimes and they are too traumatized to be able to defend themselves. And that’s, in a nutshell, what this “Holocaust”, the purpose that it has been.

And now it’s used to keep us — to destroy our ability to defend ourselves, plus it gives the jew a shield behind which he can perpetrate and commit any crime he wants to. And that’s where we find ourselves.

[22:00]

Henrik: Now there might be people watching, listening, that don’t kind of know the arguments that you’ve made. They don’t, or agree, or whatever. I’m sure there’s some that are as well. But what I want them to understand is basically, I want them to put it into context, into other events, other similar, as you say, genocides throughout history.

I believe that there’s no other genocide that has occurred that you could be prosecuted for claiming that it didn’t happen. This is, it’s a very unique case, if you will, historically speaking. About what you’re allowed and not allowed to do. And as we know, as I’ve said many times, it’s, of course, worse in Germany, but I just I don’t understand why many of the free speech activists are not coming out in support of people like Monika, and Sylvia, and Haverbeck, and all these other women, and men too, for that matter.

There’s many men as we know, Ernst Zündel passed away not too long ago, of course, he was a big hero, also a Canadian [23:01] citizen. He was, I believe, he was also extradited to Germany and was put in prison there. So this Canada-German relationship is kind of historically there as well in this case. But there should be much more uproar about this. I mean, what about Monika’s civil rights? What about her abusers? What about her her right to think differently? And I mean, and that’s what I want people primarily to focus on. And if they disagree with you Alfred on the historical issue, put that to the side for now, and just think of the case itself, and what it represents.

Because as you say, this is a witch trial! It is that these people have been demeaned and dehumanized, right? And wasn’t that a crime that they’ve said the Nazis did? They dehumanized people and all that kind of stuff? So in a way they’re doing exactly the same thing in depriving people’s right and freedom, because they think differently. And this should be a free speech issue. And why isn’t it? Why is it that no one dares to [24:01] touch this, or what is it, do you think?

Alfred: I’ll tell you why people are not speaking up. It’s, because this indoctrination that we have all been victims of, has the same effect on our ability to think as does a lobotomy. Now a lobotomy is when they used to separate the two halves of your brain physically. And they would make out of what they would call violent criminals in the prison system, or something, they’d make them into docile zombies. Because they’d separate the two brain halves.

Now this psychological warfare that we have all become victims of to some degree, or the other, has the same effect on us as does this lobotomy. It compartmentalizes your thinking, so that you are not able to think anymore and you have been conditioned to behave like a dog, like Pavlov’s dog.

I mean, that’s where this whole psychological science basically comes from. They wanted to know how we can condition people to behave, to obey in lockstep altogether. And these people are experts at [25:00] that. And that’s what they’ve done! We have been conditioned. Actually, our fellow human beings have been conditioned to have an allergic reaction, an aggressive, allergic reaction against those people who reveal the truth. Because as soon as you talk about the facts, the evidence that this “Holocaust” is all bunk, then you are immediately labeled as a “Nazi”, or a “Holocaust” denier!

And we have been taught, through conditioning, that these things are “evil”! So people have been reduced really to, like little children that you can tell them there’s a some kind of a monster, or something, or don’t look under your bed, there’s a golem, or something there. They have reduced us to a very, very low state.

At the same time, they are telling us about tolerance, and if you want to be a little girl and you’re actually a boy, you can do that and nobody can tell you otherwise. So they’re getting the people confused, full [26:02] of fear, confused, and reduced to the most basic animalistic level. And they say:

“Well, if they’re throwing old women in jail for years and years for “Holocaust” denial, then obviously, they must be really bad!”

Like, this is how simple their thinking is.

Henrik: Right?

Alfred: But now, as they see the reality of our world in free fall, in collapse, imploding, there’s more and more people that are beginning to understand that life does actually consist of much more than “fun and games”. And these fun and games that we have been indulging in, were the distraction to keep us away from seeing what has been going on behind the scenes.

Now taking us into these times right now. Look at 9/11! They don’t even talk about 9/11 at all anymore! In any way, good, or bad, or anything! Because they know that everybody’s figured that one out. So they figure, if we just don’t talk about it at all, it’ll disappear out of our memory [27:01]. Because if it’s not covered on TV and radio, or in the magazines, people won’t see it. And they just think it’s not important, because it’s not talked about.

But they do talk about all the time about:

“Oh how wonderful when these black men can mate with the White women!”

And all the advertising is reflecting that. So yeah, we have to wake up to the biological aspect of the situation in which we find ourselves. And that is basically, in a nutshell, the jew has declared war on the White race! And we are now at five minutes before 12!

We have to wake up! Understand what’s happening, and come into the healing mode.

And when I see what’s going on in the world today, we are now in that initial phase of the healing. And no organism can heal, until it understands that it’s under attack, identifies the problem and [28:01] only then can it kick into gear and do something about it.

So that’s why I am optimistic. And I see that, what they’ve done to Monika, they served us that on a silver platter! And I can only say, “thanks jews!” You did a fine job! If the doctor had to prescribe something for us that would have been perfect for helping our cause, then this would have been it! We would have had to pay millions of dollars in advertising to get this kind of exposure to this problem. And they’ve given it to us at the trial of Silvia Stolz, and I want to say:

“Thanks jews! You did a good job!”

Henrik: I wonder what, normal, so to speak, “normies” think about the case if and when they hear about it. And, as we can see obviously in some of the headlines, she’s already a convicted “Holocaust” denier. Although there hasn’t been a trial, the issue hasn’t been, you know, stated. It hasn’t been sorted out. What does she actually believe historically? It is [29:00] like this, literally like she has some kind of, you know, virus, or parasite! That she’s become smitten with this thing, which they need to keep it at a distance, kind of thing!

And that’s how they treat people these days. Just as you said, despite the preachment of the times is really, you know, accept those who think differently and you shouldn’t be afraid of the things you don’t understand, and all this kind of stuff. And I’m just so sick and fed up with the hypocrisy of what they’re trying to push in our faces! To get us to accept the kind of things that we don’t like! Of course, we have to be tolerant, we have to, … But they don’t have to be tolerant at all! See, they don’t have to back down and say:

“Okay, it’s fine. She’s not hurting anyone. Let her believe what she wants to.”

Right? No! Instead they want to make a case out of her! They want to jail her and stuff.

But what do you think is gonna happen next? I know this is very difficult for you to predict, if you will, or kind of project, but you have [30:00] been raided. There’s been people coming into your home. Tell us a little bit about that, and if there’s been any information shared with you at that point, about what actually is going on, and what they’re seeking to do.

Alfred: They are in a panic, because they see their work, they’ve worked like, how many long, 2,000 years, or something, for world domination? They feel they’re so close to it, they can finally, it’s within a reach. But the closer they get, the closer they have this, the more insane they go!

And that’s what we’re witnessing now. And there is no stopping the truth anymore! And you’re just talking about before, you know, there’s a “Holocaust” denier. People have to understand that anybody who still believes in this utter bullshit nonsense, will not be taken seriously. And in only a very, very short time from now, not one person in our civilization will admit that they ever believed this “Holocaust” nonsense!

And yet, like I was in Canada in the summer on a speaking tour, and I just saw the hysteria! Everything seems to revolve around if someone’s a “Holocaust” denier, or not, or [31:00] if there are a White supremacist, or a racist. And that’s all that counts! Nothing else seems to matter.

Henrik: Yeah.

Alfred: You know, people are living in a fantasy world that is a bubble, that’s going to burst! And they have to start to understand the reality of what’s going on around them, because that’s all we’ve got! Now, if we have hordes and absolute hordes of Third World criminals out of the prison systems, of the Third World, coming into our countries, we have to deal with them when everything breaks down. And that’s coming.

And the jew World Order that they’re trying to impose on us is this ridiculous “Holocaust” religion, and you’re supposed to go down on your knees and pray to that every day. And at the same time you are going to be disenfranchised. You are going to be running in your little hamster wheel. And then you’re so exhausted at the end of the day, you lay down, sit in front of the TV, eat poisonous food, drink poisonous water, and then get back in your hamster wheel, and the jew World Order’s controlling everything.

And that’s what the whole thing is with [32:00] the EU and everything. They try to make more and more laws that are making it ever more difficult for the small, you know, the bakeries, the small shop owners, the small farmers, to make it to make it so they cannot operate anymore, because they got a million rules! Always more rules making it ever more difficult for them to operate, so that eventually everything is just huge, great big, collectivized, you know, food productions, factories. And everybody will find their place somewhere as an insignificant little little grain of sand in this huge apparatus. And as soon as you step out of line, you will simply be shut off! You say the wrong word, they’ll just shut off your digital code and that’s it, you can die.

And now the jews actually think they can replace us, who created the civilization, and have these lower IQ people flooding in. Get rid of us, so they’re not threatened anymore. And it’s just a complete total insanity. If we don’t deal with it, then we will actually find ourselves exterminated!

[33:01]

But, I always say the Europeans have always excelled best when they have been forced to survive, because of harsh conditions. And when this breaks down, we will find ourselves in extremely harsh conditions that today would seem unimaginable, but that will be the test of fire. We survive, or we die! We swim, or we sink! And that’s what we’re facing. And I believe that when these times come, that’s when we will find our true purpose and meaning in life and we will deal with the parasites and the invaders.

Henrik: Interesting. I want to return to that a little bit later, maybe in the second part of the show., but let let’s deal with this issue here. This article, The Times of Israel, states the following:

“Authorities say Monika Schaefer is suspected of spreading hate material on the Internet.”

Right? And in the beginning I played the video and, of course, I saw, Alfred. It’s on your [34:01] channel. I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken down, but it has obviously been put in a limited state so people can’t see, or quarantine, as they call it, right? There’s no comments, you can’t see how many views there are, and all this kind of stuff. Has Monika actually, I mean, is this the only video they’re referring to? Or does she have a website herself and released other material, or is it just this video, do you think?

Alfred: This video is the one that really rattled their cage. And I’m glad they are sort of focusing on this video, because it is the best shortest piece of material that undoes so much of their psychological warfare, that we have been victimized with. You have to understand the psychological warfare, how it’s a very incremental process and it’s a trans-generational incremental process.

And I’ll go a little bit off-topic here, just to illustrate what I’m talking about.

Henrik: Sure.

Alfred: Now if you took any one of our grandparents, or [35:01] great-grandparents, and if they have to see how their ten-year-old boys are being taught in school. That they can cut off their penis and become a girl, they can be anything they want, our great-grandparents would have gone to that school with their pitchforks, or something! Would have speared that teacher, dragged him outside, strung them up in a tree! And no other teacher would ever dare to do that again! , because they still had healthy morals. And nobody with healthy morals would tolerate ten-year-olds, the most vulnerable of our people, the children being taught anal sex in school, and they can be any gender they want.

And that’s what they have brought us down to! Now the only reason that the parents are not doing that now is, because these parents have been completely demoralized. And their parents were already partially demoralized. So it goes little step by step, incrementally. And Monika’s videos, “Sorry Mom I was wrong about the Holocaust” basically reverse engineers this [36:01] psychological warfare. Because she confesses that she actually reproached our mother for not doing something against those “evil Nazis”! And my mom says:

“Well, we couldn’t! We never heard anything about that! We just didn’t know. We never saw that.”

So here we have, our mom was honest, Monika was honest, and this was the heartfelt apology to her spirit, since she was already deceased. Our mother was deceased. Now the jews have gotten a little bit too greedy. If they would have done this all over a longer period of time, maybe they would have gotten away with it., but they just got too greedy! And that’s what the jews always do.

Like now, I mean, look at what they’re doing now. They’re going crazy with the censorship! , but every time I see censorship happen, it always seems to come back, those indestructible weeds of historical truth come up stronger and more robust than ever before! And that’s what I say is going to happen now. YouTube wants to go into censorship? Well YouTube’s assigning it’s own death warrant! YouTube is just gonna go out of [37:00] business. Who’ll go to YouTube, who’ll go to Facebook if they’re gonna start playing nonsense like that?

We’re not stupid! Don’t take us for fools! The “Holocaust” is over! If I was a jew, I’d be coming out with a White flag, right today. I wouldn’t waste another day. And if I was a jew, I’d help to get Monika out of prison., because if you jews are going to stonewall and pretend you don’t know, or, you know, a “Holocaust” denier is evil, you guys are signing your very own death warrant! The noose is around your neck. And every every day of resistance, going forwards the noose tightening around your neck! So just get over it. Come out with your White flag.

Henrik: Now, I think you told us earlier that you were the one who was talking with Monika, showing her a different side of the story, and kind of awakening her to, you know, to some of the stuff that she talked about. Have you, and it’s more of a personal question, but do you regret doing that, considering the situation she’s in?

Alfred: Oh no! No!

Henrik: And I don’t mean that in a bad way. I’m just saying, …

Alfred: Yeah, I understand completely. I’ll tell you, when people, at the beginning, they would say:

“Monika! How could you let these bad people influence you like that!”

Monika would say:

“No, no! Nobody ‘influenced’ me.”

I was waking up, and it started about 10 years after 9/11, I started waking up to what actually happened on 9/11. And I sent these this information to all my family members. And Monika was the only one who always came up with the right question. She’ll say:

“Oh! Where did you get that? How do you know? Prove it! Like how do you know? Where’d you get that?”

And the other ones would kind of like, do like most zombies do, they kind of click it away. They just delete it, or something. They don’t want to look there. I mean, you know, when people delete that and put it away, it reminds me of a small child that covers it’s eyes and says:

“Now you can’t see me!”

They’re fooling themselves! We are all, we all have to confront the reality and truth! And Monika always came with the [39:00] right question. She was basically getting up to speed parallel with me, and she’s helped me with stuff, I’ve helped her with stuff. I might have, you know, kick-started her with the 9/11 stuff at the beginning, but she did not resist and she came right up to speed. And we’ve been a team, we’ve been partners in this struggle ever since.

Henrik: Hmm. Yeah, that’s good. And, of course, as one of the other articles, I think was from “Vice”, of course, they detailed that she was a former Green Party member. She had, I guess she had a lot of people on the Left. And she might have even come from a leftist perspective herself. In the beginning, kind of initially. So I can imagine how difficult it must have been for her when it started, when she started losing her classes [violin] and things like that in the school in Jasper, right?

And all the people, did they come after her, or did they just kind of drop her as a hot potato? How were her relationships at that point when it started coming out?

Alfred: Okay. You started saying about she was a [40:00] leftist. You know, I, we were all leftists! I was a leftist. Most people were leftist. We were basically indoctrinated that way, and that’s perfectly natural. There’s nothing wrong with that., but it’s just now when we see the reality that we understand, you know, that this leftist stuff is bad news for us.

And Monika’s ritual defamation which she had to endure in Jasper was, it was vile! I mean, she used to play music once a week, or something like that in the Jasper Legion, it’s called. And there was a guy there Ken Kominski is his name, but he’s all over the internet now, in a very bad way. He just did everything to get her thrown out of there.

But you see, Monika had been a Green Party member. She and run for the Green Party in Canada, but had quit that party already a year before making that video, because it was her disgust at the fact that the Party would not deal with the issue of 9/11, and a few other things. So she [41:01] was disillusioned by the hypocrisy of that Party. And, of course, now in hindsight we can see that Green Party, that’s one of the very worst. Here in Germany the Greens are the absolute worst!

Henrik: Yeah, yeah.

Alfred: I used to vote for those people. And that’s how blindsided I was! How hoodwinked I was! These are the very worst of the worst., but people in Jasper, they liked the way she dealt with their ritual defamation, since she wasn’t allowed to busk officially and in the streets. Which is, you know, putting your hat down there and playing music and so forth. She just went out with her fiddle and played, just for free, kind of thing. And people loved it! So she had a lot of people who were very happy with what she was doing. And even people that didn’t understand the six million lie, and were believers of that sick religion., but even they would still come to her and say:

“I might not agree with you what you’re saying, but I don’t think what they’re doing to you is right!”

So they see the injustice of what’s [42:01] actually happening to her. And I’ve always told Monika that each and every one of those people that are now making your life difficult, are in the future, at some point in time, when you go down the street they will run and hide, or they will come and ask you for forgiveness, for their despicable, disgraceful behavior!

And that’s something that we all have to understand. That us being attacked, I would much rather go to prison, Same with Monika. I mean, that’s why I’m not worried about her. She’s a very strong person and she’ll she knows the role she’s playing. And myself too. If I go to prison, so what? I’ll go to jail! And is going so fast now, that I won’t be in jail for very long before the mob will get me out of jail, or they’ll kill me.

But this lie is over! It truly is! No self-respecting European person can crawl on his knees with this utter nonsense of 6 million dead jews, shrunken heads, soap and lampshades! It is so bizarre!

I’m looking into in turn to how [43:02] they play this game, you know, depending how much time we have., because with the fall of the Iron Curtain, like Auschwitz, we are always told Auschwitz, Auschwitz! The people living in Auschwitz had never heard of anything about a “Holocaust” until after the Iron Curtain came down and then they had a problem!

Henrik: Let’s get into that in the second segment, Alfred.

Alfred: Sure.

Henrik: We’re going to take a little break in a little bit, so I think this is a good time should promote the website before we’re going to that. I want to hear more about that., but obviously one of the ones that were set up was “wir sind Monika” [wir-sind-monika.com] “We are Monika”. Tell us about that site and is there any way people can support her now? What can people do that are concerned with this and her future?

Alfred: I recommend everybody become familiar with the site “wir sind Monika”, or “We are Monika”. That should get you there also. And this is sort of a go — to place to see what’s happening with Monika. All the latest updates. Plus we have a lot of links to other websites that have a massive amount of good information about the true history of what we call World War One, and World War Two.

[44:01]

It’s all in there. That’s the go — to place to find out what’s happening with Monika. And that is actually what had got them so upset, and that is the reason why they sent a team of ten heavily armed thugs into my home to steal everything they could find just yesterday morning.

Henrik: What happened with that? Tell us more about that. I mean, they just, what, did they just the break open the door? Did you open it? What happened?

Alfred: No this is interesting, because it’s always the same sort of woman with her team of thugs there. She comes from Fürstenfeldbruck, which isn’t that far. And this time in the summer, last summer of 2017, they came and they basically stormed in here at 6:00 in the morning like, you know, just about broke down the doorbell! And then they stormed in.

But this time they rang at seven o’clock and were very polite. The whole team of them. They surrounded the house first and then they came in. The whole house was full of these people, like ten of them at least, I couldn’t even count them all. And they didn’t take as long as the last time. It only took about, just over an hour. And they stole everything they could find, but I was [45:00] preemptively cautious. That’s why I’m talking to you now, I’ve still got my equipment.

I told them the whole time saying:

“You need to understand, lists are being compiled of all those people who are now being helpers of the system. And you will all find yourself having to explain your behavior when this lie goes over. And it’s just coming down now. It’s in free fall, and this is theft. And this is treason, what you are doing!”

“And what do you do when you go home at night? What do you tell your kids what you did? You chased a “Holocaust” denier and stole all his equipment? I mean, that’s gonna be an embarrassing thing to explain, because your children are all going to know that this was all a lie. And nobody’s going to admit that they ever believed that stuff!”

But that’s another thing. They don’t even talk about the “Holocaust” in these charges anymore. They actually charge us now, that we are “undermining the trust that people have in our legal system”! Now try to digest that one.

Henrik: Is that what they told you?

[46:01]

Alfred: That’s what’s written on the papers. That’s what’s written on the justifications for stealing all of our equipment, is that we are “undermining that people’s trust in the legal system”! Now if that isn’t an inversion of reality, I don’t know what is! And that’s what they do with everything. The “Holocaust”, and everything else that they’re feeding us.

You have to understand this process of “inverting and projecting”. They invert their own behavior, put it on the victim and they project that out there. And they just propagandize that message into our brains. And if we’re dumb enough to believe it, you know, we deserve to get exterminated! , but we are waking up, because we are not really that dumb!

Henrik: Alright. Let’s take a little break here then., but yeah, I want to send pple over to “wir sind Monika”. We’ll have a link down the description for that. There is, of course, tell us about your personal sites, as well Alfred.

[46:58]

Alfred: I don’t have any personal sites. I have my videos. I made them all, I basically finished my video career. Now I’m doing a lot of writing and doing talk shows like this one right now., because that is right now, the most effective way that we could the message out there. If I had invested in new equipment after they stole all of my equipment, my cameras, everything! They took everything you could find! Thousands of euros worth! If I had reinvested, it would all be gone now again. That’s why I don’t bother.

I just have learned to operate mobile. I can work here, I can work there. All that I need is a little laptop with an internet connection. That’s all I need now, and that’s all I’m going to be working with in the future.

Henrik: Okay. Yeah, you have the YouTube channel. We will link to that, of course. People can check out your older videos. A lot of good videos there, a lot of material on, you know, bigger picture, like 9/11, and how the entrainment, how the mind control process works. And stuff like that. Very interesting.

Do you, just the last point before we take a break here. Would you want to, if you could, leave Germany and go back to Canada? Are you happy where you are, at the moment?

[48:00]

Alfred: I couldn’t go to Canada! Canada! They are such zombies these people! There are more indoctrinated to be zombies than in Germany. I mean, Germany is pretty bad, but Canada’s even worse! I mean, they are completely brain-dead there! I hate to say it, but I would cry if I have to look at that every single day.

Now there’s good people, don’t get me wrong, but the general population is completely and totally, they’ve had their brains rotted out! And that’s a very alarming condition to be in, because they will not survive the coming reality. That is what I’m most concerned about, what used to be my home country. No. I want to stay in Germany right here, even if I go to jail, I’ll still stay here.

Henrik: Yep, I understand that. Alright folks let’s just take a short break here. We’ll be back more with Alfred Schaefer. All the links down below. Stay tuned everyone, we’ll be right back.

[49:00]

Thank you for watching, or listing guys. We’re doing a second part with Alfred Schaefer at Red Ice members dot com, right now. Yes really! A second members exclusive hour. It’s been a long time since we did that last. This is kind of the reboot, the reboot premiere of the members hour for our interview shows. This is, of course, something that we’ve started up now again. Since the “hack” we’ve not done a second hour. So this is great getting back into this doing these once more.

So do make sure that you join us. An intense second part with Alfred, as he holds no bars, as to how he sees the situation with Europe, his sister, censorship, and silencing of Europeans world wide.

And remember if you’re new to this show, we do let our guests speak on the show and you might not always agree. I might not always agree., but it’s important to give people that are censored and silenced a platform where they can share their views and tell us about how they really view the world, without having to self-censor.

[50:00]

Now the second segment is also where we speak about some of the things that we sometimes consciously, at this point, pulled off from speaking about, you know, in the first segment, because of the situation with YouTube censorship and, you know, our podcast goes up on other platforms, too. So I explain a bit more about this in the beginning of Part II, for members.

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[51:00]

And what’s more troubling and difficult is that despite the fact that we do not condone, you know, the promotion of violence, and such things. We, you know, these deluded people who want to silence people with different views are claiming that when we speak about our views, about how we see the world, then that is violence and hate! , but it’s not! This is lies! They can’t handle that we are a growing channel, a growing community. People are tuning in, people are liking our content, that’s the problem, right?

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[Brian Ruhe talks with Canadian-German brother and sister, Alfred and Monika Schaefer about the latest police raid of Alfred’s home in Germany, where the police “stole” material and equipment from him. This is all due because he has been spreading truth about the greatest hoax in modern history, the so-called jewish “Holocau$t” of WWII and also the jewish false flag event of 9/11 and their subsequent War OF Terror. Also discussed is the need for everyone to fight back against the ever-growing restrictions being instigated world-wide by organized jewry on our ability to speak freely — KATANA.]

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Alfred Schaefer is a Canadian videographer living in Germany. On July 6, 2017 at 6:00 am his door bell rang ferociously, as if some berserk madman was about to kick in the door. Seven armed thugs appeared with guns, bullet-proof vests and handcuffs and one “witness” from the town administration. Please support Alfred Schaefer as he tells the truth and exposes the lies about the Holocaust.

Please email Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to act to protect this Canadian citizen who has had his property stolen, at: pm@pm.gc.ca .

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Brian Ruhe

with

Alfred & Monika Schaefer

German Police Thugs Steal

911 Truth Material and

Alfred Schaefer’s Studio Equipment

Published on Jul 8, 2017

TRANSCRIPT

[00:00]

Brian: Welcome to the Brian Ruhe Show. Today’s July 8th 2017. My guest is Alfred Schaefer in Germany and his sister Monika Schaefer, in Jasper Canada. They both are videographers, and they have released videos telling the truth about the “Holocau$t”. They have both suffered quite a lot for this. Monika has had some isolation in her town. But Alfred, just two days ago, was “swatted” by the German authorities. Alfred, tell us what happened?

Alfred: Yes it was a surprise attack. I wasn’t even really expecting it. At six o’clock the doorbell just suddenly went crazy — ding, ding, ding, ding! They were just hammering on it. And so I, you know, I jumped out of bed. Like okay, I said to Frieda:

“Hold them off for a few seconds if you can!”

And I scrambled around to get a few things sorted out. And within about, a very few seconds, suddenly there was a whole team of these guys with their guns and bulletproof vests. And they just came in and that was it! They pinned us down basically. And okay:

“We’re going to search your house!”

So they were there and they said that they had an order to steal, well they say “confiscate”, steal all my video equipment and so forth, and computers, everything. Storage devices and not only storage devices this time, but also the video equipment.

And so they went about doing that. And the whole time I was telling them, you know, how do you, what do you guys tell your children when you go home? Do you go home and tell them:

“Oh you got a “Holocau$t” denier and stole all his equipment.”

Come on! The whole world is waking up! The whole world is laughing at Germany for being so stupid, that there are still some people that believe it. That’s what told him the whole time and says, you know:

“This is treason what you’re doing! And that’s how you will be judged and, you know, that this is theft what you’re doing!”

And I never stopped driving it into their conscience. But the head, or the leader of that crew, these gangsters, was a woman. And she was there, she actually did the raid last summer, and I was hoping, or I thought, that she had learned something. Because I used to send her my newest productions and so forth. And, you know, here you guys are all suffering from this induced mental illness and so forth.

But I think she has chosen to betray her people and the human beings on this planet and work for a few shekels, take the shekels from the parasite and do their dirty work! And she knows that she’s doing this dirty work, so she’s the one that has really disappointed me. Now the other ones, the cops kind of thing, the big guys, a lot of them probably don’t really know and they seem to be quite actually keenly interested in, like, for example, we had the book, “Mein Kampf” from Adolf Hitler on the coffee table. And my wife, Frieda, she says:

“Oh that’s mine, you know, I’m just reading that.”

And then he says:

“Oh no, you can do that. It’s okay.”

And also they were looking at the other stuff, and some of the guys were just like guarding us, but he’s looking and reading through the stuff and very keenly interested in reading it, and actually left some of the stuff there, like the newest “Zundel Brief”, you know, like from Ingrid Zundel. She sends it to us all the time. He’s reading that. But what they did also, not only steal all the stuff, but they photographed all the books that are in our bookshelves! I want to know what kind of stuff we are reading.

Brian: Wow!

Alfred: So listen people, if you think religion in a free society, the state authorities come and they photograph what we are reading!

Brian: Wow!

Alfred: They are keenly interested! And they steal our equipment! Because now they say in Germany, for example, they want to make huge fines for anybody who puts out, “fake news”! I mean, in other words, they have their lies and anybody who disagree with their lies and puts something out that contradicts these lies, will be charged with putting out, “fake news”!

That how bad it’s got. It’s double speak! But, like I said, the more insane it gets, the easier it is even for the zombies to see through it, that something isn’t right! So all these people that are now actually that stupid, or pretending to be stupid — because they think that they don’t have to change their life that way — it’s getting harder and harder for them to continue with that position. So that’s good for us.

Monika: I’ll make a comment about this is censorship. They’re privatizing the censorship, aren’t they? By charging fines, or making fines on those companies who don’t block certain sites. So that’s in effect, privatizing the censorship of what we’re allowed to see and read! And about the books, I mean, maybe this is a precursor to what went on in Russia, what became the Soviet Union. There at some point they would just shoot people with certain books. You know, it was an instant death penalty if you had the “Protocols of Zion“, for instance. That was instant death penalty. I mean, it’s not there yet here, but this is the direction that it’s going. It is really out of control with what they’re censoring and how they’re censoring!

[05:24]

Alfred: Also in Russia if you were labeled “anti-semitic” that was also the death penalty. So, if that’s what we want, then we just continue to keep our heads in buried in the sand and do nothing. But that’s why we’re fighting, and we’re fighting to win, because we are going to drive this until they do one of two things; they either shoot us and kill us, or we get enough people to come out so that they know they can’t do that and we’re going to win!

I’m convinced we have to make it so that all those people who are their willing helpers now, they are being exposed, we are pulling their masks off, and they are will have no choice other than to basically come out and hope, and plead, for forgiveness and mercy. Because they cannot possibly kill, you know, exterminate the entire White race as the whole White race is finding out what they have done to us!

I mean, their incredible success of the past, the entire history of the World Wars, the entire history of communism, and now that we have figured out who it actually was, namely the jewish plot to dominate us and control us. That is now coming out and they cannot get that genie back in the bottle. It’s a little bit like if you’re a serial killer and finally you get cockier, and cockier, you’re just killing, raping, and so forth, them finally you get caught somewhere along the line. And then all the other crimes you committed over a long period of time are all exposed! And that is a bad time to say:

“No, I didn’t do it!”

No! We know you did it! And now you’re guilty. And then to try to maybe kill those people who are finding out, only makes it worse! And that’s the situation we’re in right now.

The parasite, or the jew, or whatever you want to call it, or him, whatever it is, is at the end of the road! And this time it has bitten off more than it can chew, because to basically breed down the White race, … Basically applying the same business model as was applied to Germany, in what we call the Second World War. Having the people who have been duped into destroying Germany, partake in the spoils and then to create all kinds of evil propaganda about the Germans to justify it.

Now they’re applying that very same, very successful business model, to the entire White race! That’s why all the invaders are partaking in the loot. They’re taking our homes, our land, our everything, and they’re not going to complain. And we are being vilified to justify what’s happening. And then we are so gullible, because of our nature, our human nature. Specifically the White race has this huge degree of empathy and goodwill, that we have been psychologically brought down to the level of committing “suicide”, basically!

And that’s the whole reason for all this propaganda, is to destroy our natural defenses! But now that we are recovering from that, the people who are waking up are recovering, that’s why it’s so important to just educate! Educate! Educate nonstop!

Because, we are very close now to having that critical mass where it will be a done deal. And nobody will want to admit in a very short time from now, that they EVER believed any of those lies!

So those people who think they can just sort of think it’s going to go away, or pretend they don’t understand, they are risking the rest of their life being seen as a complete and total idiot, or treasonous, or mentally retarded something! You will not be part of the, you know, respected community, or something, because you have to justify why you remained silent! Not to me, not to Monika, or to Brian, but to your own children! And that’s a a pretty tough one. I mean, your kids will know!

Also, another thing I found out, the “JQ” is now amongst the young people in North America, you know, the White ones, especially. You don’t have to explain it anymore, “JQ”, the jewish Question. Now that’s progress! Now how are they going to get that one out of their minds? I mean, the young people, they are waking up! So the older people from our generations, who think that:

“Oh, we have a good life! Why should I bother, why should I burden myself with this problem now, when so old and ready for retirement?”

Or whatever. Anyway, no you have got to do enough so that you can justify to your children what you did, or did not do! That is all. Now once you understand some of this, then you’ll really start kicking into gear!

[10:15]

And that’s what’s happening now, is that people are understanding. They find a new purpose in life. And also, a very interesting thing I hear this more and more now, people that are beginning to understand this, they are stopping consumption of alcohol. They’re getting themselves fit, because they suddenly find they have a purpose in life!

And that’s another thing, that we as Europeans, it doesn’t do us good to have to go too long without any real challenges! [Brian start to laugh in agreement] So this challenge is actually good for us! It’s good for our spirit, it’s good to get us back into what we have always been. That’s why I’m absolutely certain that we’re going to win this battle! I don’t think, … It’s a no contest really!

It’s even like Alan Sabrosky had said, that when the American people really understand and that was only about 9/11. He says when they really understand what happened, who brought us 9/11, he said:

“They will scrub Israel off the face of this earth! And they will not give a rat’s ass what the cost is! They will do it!”

It will be a “no contest”! And now we know that 9/11 is only one link in a long chain that goes in very far and very deep! So it’s already a whole lot worse than, … If people are afraid to deal with 9/11, well, when you get the whole picture, then you’ll get your blood going! And then you have the right spirit to do something about it. So that’s we’re faced with now. It’s a good time to be alive!

Brian: You know, I think that yes, they’re on the run! With the internet more people are waking up. So it seems like they are on the run. It’s kind of like the elephant is afraid of the mouse! We’re the elephant, we’re the ninety-nine percent.

Alfred: Oh yeah!

Monika: Yeah, I would like to add to what Alfred has talked about. It really is an existential threat that we face right now! And it is every bit as critical, as we are, you know, projecting to people out there that we absolutely have to do everything that we can to fight this existential, or to overcome this existential threat! And really the most lethal weapon that has been used against us is the psychological warfare. The lies, the deceptions, and the indoctrination, the programming of our brains, the programming of the young people’s brains.

I mean, Alfred talks about young people waking up and coming out, and I think that is true. But at the same time I’ve been shocked to see that the younger generation, they are highly affected by some of the poisoning that they are encountering in the schools with some of the things are being taught in what we call, … You know, they might call it “health studies”, or “family studies”, or “sex education”, but I have renamed it as “porno pushing”, porno and perversion pushing.

It softens up their minds, it changes their brains the things they’re being taught at a very young age, so they can’t get past that first base. They can’t get to second base which would be to understand a very, very basic facts about 9/11, which if you just take a very small amount of time to look into that, you will see that the official story is completely wrong!

And then when you discover we’ve been lied to about that, you realize that lying was not invented on September 11th, 2001. And that the lies are so much deeper!

And [if] you go back into World War Two history and the “hollow-co$t” the so-called jewish “Holocau$t” and when you realize that is a BIG lie! It’s really at the core of the structure of deception that is structuring our very world! Like, you talked about Israel and 9/11 and what Alan Sabrosky said. Well Israel is actually structured on the “hollow-cost” or the “holohoax”.

And the whole persecution of the jewish people, that is their identity, but when you figure out that the “Holocau$t” is a lie and then you can go back into history and you could ask, well why were they kicked out of country after country, region after region? Is it just, because we’re born with some gene called “anti-semitic”? Like, how much sense does that make? It makes no sense at all!

It’s when you realize that what they do, is they come in, they become a chameleon, they become like us in their appearance, in their language, how they talk how, they speak, how they look, how they dress, and we don’t realize that they’re infiltrating all the power structure of the government, the media! That’s a really important one. The media basically tells us how to think, the movies, the books, the publishing, you know, which books get promoted, which films get all the awards. They kind of pat themselves on the back for the films that they want to promote. All these things, so they form how we think, and then subvert from within. It’s the enemy within that is so much more dangerous than enemy at the gate with the guns and the canons, right?

[15:16]

So, this is how it goes. And I want to also address this thing about the White race and White guilt. So part of the psychological warfare against us is to teach us from, you know, from the day we’re going into kindergarten, basically, how bad we’ve been! We’ve been so bad, we have to, you know, make up for all our bad!

And in Germany it’s particularly bad. And we experienced that very personally with some relatives of ours, who really, just basically went crazy when they found out about my video! And they were responding in an uncontrolled manner, it was like they were triggered! They really were programmed to respond in a triggered way, that they basically never want to contact with us again. You know:

“Get out of the house!”

All these things, because we’re going to make Germany BAD again! And this was how they were talking to us:

“You are going to make Germany bad again!”

So they are carrying the guilt, this false, phony guilt, the collective guilt, that the German people are supposed to have forever, and ever, and ever. And crawling on their knees, … to what?

And when you find out it’s a lie! I mean, this does create some anger, and this is where the “Spirit” is going to come back, and that yes, the European people have to regain their spirit, and their sense of responsibility to our people! And no, we are not guilty of all the bad things that happened on earth. I’m sure that there are many bad things that we have done, but we are not collectively guilty for all the bad things! We’ve been lied to about a lot of our history.

And, … so that… we do have the “empathy gene”, and we also have a high-trust society. That is how we’ve evolved, in the harsh winters, the seasons that, … It has to do with where our people spent thousands and thousands of years. And that this was actually [what] helped us survive. Helped us to survive in the harsh elements of the seasons. And we had to have a high-trust society, and that’s now being [used] against us.

So we trust that we’re being told the truth when we’re being told things by our teachers, and by our parents, who have been also misled. Then we have this “empathy gene”, and this has been used against us, been turned against us, and that’s why we, our people, are destroying us, … ourselves.

Like it’s written right into the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”:

“The goy will become agents of their own destruction”.

This is what we have to understand, and then we can get over this, … This terrible psychological indoctrination that we’ve faced.

Alfred: Yes. See, like a lot of this, the psychological warfare that they do, is they actually project their own characteristics onto their next intended victim. That’s why they firstly did it very successfully with the Germans, their projecting all this evil, all these evil, evil characteristics onto them. Which is actually their own characteristics. And then the jews themselves, who had holocausted of the Germans, … Then afterwards, held out their hand and said:

“‘Holocau$t’ … give me money, give me money!”

And now they’re doing the same thing, and they’ve expanded that business model to the entire White race! And it seems to be working very well, so far. But that is now coming to an end as people are waking up.

And the big downfall now for the jews, I guess, is that it has worked so well, because now it’s like a serial murderer, eventually you trip over one of your crimes and all the other ones get exposed and then you will be held accountable for all the other ones.

And the problem now with the jews, is that since they work as a collective, they will most likely be punished as a collective! And that is actually why it’s most important now for those jews who consider themselves innocent, and they probably are innocent, because they’ve been duped, just like we were duped, to waste no more time and come out, raise the white flag, ask for forgiveness; and I’m sure that we’ll be very forgiving.

But any jew, or any non-jew who still now supports the lies, is putting themselves in a very, very, precarious situation, because they cannot, … These lies are coming down faster than you can possibly imagine! And that’s the situation we’re in right now.

[19:57]

Brian: Yeah, I think it’s important for people to speak to others. Because others might be feeling the same way to get more people to talk, … Like, get this avalanche going!

Monika: Yeah, on that issue of jewish non-participation, they’ve been duped, they’re brainwashed right from the day they’re born. However, when they say to us:

“Oh, you can’t talk about those things!”

Like, for example in my hometown, before I was talking about the “Holocau$t”, when I was only talking about 9/11 and making some connections with Israel and Zionism, and this kind of thing with 9/11. The crime of 9/11. There were people who I had no idea that they were jewish, they had been friends of mine, or acquaintances of mine, with whom I was very friendly over the years that I’ve lived here, and suddenly they were shunning me and not talking to me!

Brian: Wow!

Monika: … and I couldn’t understand that. And then when I confronted them at some point — at first I just thought, maybe they’re going through a depression or something, really that’s how, it didn’t even occur to me that it was because of the things I was saying — but then when I confronted this one fellow in particular, he just lashed out at me and said:

“You’re going too far! You’re going to far! Talking about 9/11, and you’re just going too far!”

And then at that point I ask myself, well, wait a minute. Okay, maybe he’s been fooled by what the mainstream media has been telling us. However, if he’s telling me I cannot talk about these things, does that not make him complicit? Does that not make him complicit?

Brian: Maybe, … You didn’t know he was jewish? That’s an important thing, you didn’t know he was jewish.

Monika: And then afterwards, then I learned that he was jewish, and so that is the reason why he’s upset that I’m talking about 9/11! Now how much sense does that make?

… that, you know, that’s the problem.

Alfred: That I think, that puts him on the opposite side of humanity! That puts him on the side of the parasites!

Because when the hammer comes down, who’s guilty and who’s not guilty, these people, …you’d better hope that we’ve forgotten about these incidents, but if we remember these incidents. And I mean, because they’re doing this to, … Because they want to enslave us all! And, in fact, they want to actually get rid of the White Race!

So it’s a case of them, or us! Then we will do what is necessary, so that it won’t be us that’s going down! So remember that! Keep that in mind.

And so you say:

“You can’t go there!”

And I say:

“I am going there and if you want to stop me you’re in big trouble, because we are many and you are few, and we are all waking up!”

I want to go back to the police raid that was done against me.

Brian: Yeah, let’s do.

Alfred: They stole all my video equipment, because they say that is, … I’m producing, I’m inciting, I’m doing it, using it to incite racial hatred. They also stole all my “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth” DVDs that I had here. You know, a whole drawer full! They say that’s also illegal now, to have. Because that’s also incitement to racial hatred! So you see how they’re expanding the spectrum of what you’re not allowed to talk about? You see, now the forensic evidence, or just description of the forensic evidence of 9/11 is coming in as the same category as “Holocau$t denial”! So obviously… actually that helps us, because it makes it even just easier for even the zombies to understand that this is not right!

Monika: Right! I’m really glad you brought up Alfred. That they also stole those things from you, the 9/11 information. I want to point out to the listeners in case they are not familiar with “AE 9/11 Truth”. That’s, “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth”.

One of their hallmarks, I guess you could say, and they’ve been criticized for it, but I do want to point out that they never, ever, point a finger at “who did it”! They just put all the physical evidence of why these towers came down, due to controlled demolition, and not because of two planes hitting two buildings, and then three buildings came down [WTC 1, WTC2 and WTC7]. They talk about physical forensic evidence and they’ve stayed away from pointing a finger at who did it. They’ve always said:

“Look that’s for you to figure out, but here’s the forensic evidence.”

So really that does just expose them [the police and their controllers]!

Alfred: Of course.

Monika: … and it is now illegal!

Alfred: Yeah. Like when I say, when something like this raid happens, like against me, I say we have to deal with these things just like the Asian sports, the defence sports, like judo or something, where you take the energy that your opponent is coming at you with, and reverse it, and turn it against him. And that’s what this a raid has done, now for me.

[25:00]

First it’s a shock, you know:

“Oh shit, they stole all my stuff!”

But then I said okay, well now, .. That’s why I wrote that email then, and sent it out there to say the duplicity here.

They have been filling the minds, … they are raping the minds, of not only us, but our children now, with so many perversions and lies, and they make good money at it, like Schindler’s List and all these holohoax and stuff.

And then, now they want to impose huge fines on people in Germany, for what they claim is fake news or something. And at the same time anybody who is exposing what is actually happening, they steal their video equipment, like me. Or they steal the DVDs from Architects and Engineers, … They are so blatantly insane at this point in time, that there are fewer and fewer people who are going along with it. And this also brings a new strategy, that everyone here is trying to follow, is that anybody who is involved in these prosecutions against us, for revealing the truth, we want to expose these people.

No more anonymous prosecutors: Find out their name, full name, picture if possible. We’re going to put these things out on the Internet, and we are finding now that the courts are having a great deal of trouble to actually continue to do these prosecutions. You know, like this, when they did this raid now against me, it was B’nai Brith Canada that basically triggered it. And why are a bunch of jews in Canada getting the police here to come and raid, steal my stuff?

Then the courts have a problem! Then there will be some judge’s name or something on the paper, and that’s where they’re having a hard time finding people to still do that, because they know that we are now exposing them. No more, you know, just a court-house number, so and so. There will be a name of the judge who makes a decision and we are pushing that out on the Internet saying that is treason, and they will be accountable for that! And they know it!

So they’re all backing down, they’re running scared! And we’re also… like how blatant of a treason do you want to commit? Because it’s over, their lies truly are over!

And the censorship in Germany, you wouldn’t believe it! They’re censoring everything, it’s just, you know, … I mean, it’s insane!

Brian: That’s a great idea to name the judge’s name, and to put it on the Internet, make everything public. Public information. Yeah, great idea!

Alfred: Absolutely! So that’s the thing, yeah, yeah, anything else you want to add?

Monika: I’d like to just give encouragement to people that, you know, when they say:

“Well, even if you’re right, Monika, what can one person do about it really? Let’s just live our life and enjoy.”

And what not. But yes! You can make a difference! And the proof is: Why would they go after somebody like Alfred, and me, and after you Brian, as well? I know you suffered consequences. Why do they go after us so ferociously? It’s because we are making a difference! I mean the proof is right there, otherwise they wouldn’t care! You see, so that gives me some hope and encouragement, and I would give others the encouragement to please just, you know, you can figure these things out, you can educate yourself, you can educate others, you can do what you can.

And everybody has different ideas of what they can do. And I don’t want to try to, you know, tell people what they should do. We have our own imaginations and we can all contribute in different ways.

But to do nothing is not an option! Because we are facing an existential crisis! And yes, it is just absolutely so important. And also I would just say to those people who still don’t get it, and we do have people in our own family that really don’t get it. I would say:

“Well, how do you reconcile this violence of putting people in jail, or raiding their homes, or this total ostracization and shunning? How do you reconcile that with a free and democratic society? When what are we being punished for? —Words! Words! . Simple words!”

We have not gone out and clobbered somebody on the head with a sledgehammer! We have not committed murder, or robbed people, or broken in, or vandalized! No! We’re speaking words! And then they do these harsh things against us? —Well! How does …how do you reconcile that with a free and democratic society, so-called?

Brian: I know. And in Germany I just want to point out, if a man commits rape he might go to jail for one year, or maybe two. But if they deny the “Holocau$t” they can go to jail for five years, just for words!

Alfred: It’s insane, it’s insane!

Monika: Yes!

Alfred: And that is another reason why it’s important that you do something, is because the young people are all figuring it out now. In fact, you don’t now have to explain to young people anymore what “JQ” means. It means the “Jewish Question“. And so if you think that you can just sort of cruise along with your head in the sand, where it’s been so far, and it’ll be all okay, you’ll have to explain that to your children when they figured out and they say Mom, or Dad:

“Why didn’t you even TRY to do something!?”

Because us letting this continue without any resistance, is absolute, guaranteed, pure hell for all of us! Because we are in the cross-hairs to become exterminated!

[30:32]

Unless you’re one of the African invaders, and then it’s great for you, because you get to.. You’re the one who takes our houses and everything else! But we as the European founder settlers of the European countries and North America, are slated for destruction! So, if you are of White skin color, remember you’re in the cross-hairs! So do start doing something.

Monika: And we’re not just guessing that. They’ve been telling us that through all kinds of writings, …

Brian: The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, since the twenties [1920s].

Alfred: Yeah, there’s this quote.. Let’s just quote Susan Sontag, for example, a jew and she said:

“The White race is the cancer of humanity!”

I mean, how about Noel Ignatiev. He said the same thing:

“The White race is the cancer of this earth” and “How can anybody think it’s not desirable to get rid of it?”

That’s what these people have said! Openly! Openly! When they do it openly and we just sit there and let it happen, and welcome in the invaders and give them our land, and our, you know, everything else, everything we have! Well that’s called suicide! That’s suicide!

Brian: Yep!

Monika: Calling it diversity when really they’re getting rid of DIVERSITY! — It is a fraud!

Brian: Yep!

Alfred: It’s a fraud!

Brian: Yes. Diversity is a code word for White genocide.

Yes, the sooner we speak up the better, the time to speak up is NOW! So our virtue burns the brightest! The fact that we’re doing this means the three of us have virtue to keep doing this, to keep going, to keep marching forward!

Monika: Thank you very much Brian.

Alfred: Yeah okay. Just one last thing I want to say.

Brian: Yeah, please do.

Alfred: The people who are coming out and understanding this, they find they suddenly have a new purpose in life, and feel energized, and they drop the bad habits they had. For example, alcohol and so forth and they started making themselves fit for the struggle and the fight that’s coming up!

And that is positive, because we Europeans are not used to having such an easy soft life, it’s not our nature. We have become what we are, because we’ve usually had to struggle, and this struggle that’s coming up is actually good for our spirit. I see people everywhere are, who understanding that, are coming to the same conclusion that we all three are — because what a wonderful time to be alive with this challenge to deal with!

Brian: And I really resonate with that! Because this is my first, the start of the Brian Ruhe Show in 2015, because this is my new purpose.

Please support the Brian Ruhe Shows, donate to the Brian Ruhe Show! Keep the mission going!

Thank you! We will be back another time.

Monika: Okay, Thank you!

Alfred: Thank you!

[34:14]

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