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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; Joel Davis &#160; Australians Vs. the Agenda &#160; with Joel Davis &#160; Mon, Apr 28, 2025 &#160; [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis talks on the Australians Vs the Agenda channel: The discussion begins with Joel &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/29/australians-vs-the-agenda-with-joel-davis-apr-28-2025-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Joel Davis</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Australians Vs. the Agenda</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> with Joel Davis</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Mon, Apr 28, 2025</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis talks on the Australians Vs the Agenda channel:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The discussion begins with Joel explaining the planning behind booing at an Anzac Day memorial service in Melbourne.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We planned to do it a long time ago&#8230; The plan was for a while, like, next Anzac Day, if they do another Welcome to Country&#8230; Let’s do it.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues that the Welcome to Country ceremony is inappropriate for Anzac Day</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The impact of Jacob Hersant’s involvement in the booing incident.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel provides historical context for Australia’s involvement in World Wars I and II</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“It was a war for Australia because Australia was part of the British Empire and our primary concern was the rising Japanese Empire” (12:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Australia’s foreign policy and geopolitical concerns</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel criticises recent anti-vilification laws in Victoria</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“The anti-vilification laws that were passed recently in Victoria actually aren’t in effect yet. They don’t go into effect until September.” (26:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Conversation about the National Socialist Network members potentially forming a political party, aka, White Australia Party.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We actually think we can get people elected. We believe we got good candidates and we’ve got a compelling campaign strategy.” (32:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel discusses the upcoming Australian election and his views on various parties</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“I think if you’re in Queensland you should put Gerard Rennick number one.” (41:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of the Liberal Party and One Nation</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“One Nation are the most acquiescent of all the Right-wing minor parties to the Liberal Party.” (47:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of preferences and voting strategies</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Just put all the Right-wing minor parties near the top. That’s all that matters.” (52:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues for punishing the Liberal Party at the polls</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We need to disabuse people of the Liberal Party and we need to punish them and destroy them” (56:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Comparison to Right-wing parties in European countries (60:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of Peter Dutton’s Liberal Party campaign strategy (65:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“The fact that Peter Dutton has kept on calling on John Howard [ex PM] &#8230; He doesn’t realise that people one, there’s a majority younger voters than non-younger voters that he needs to win over.” (66:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel provides information on where to find his content after being banned from X</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“You can find me on Telegram. The handle is Joel Davis_X on Telegram.” (71:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Clive Palmer’s campaign spending (75:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Clive, just buy Channel 7 and turn Channel 7 into a Right-wing network.” (76:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel promotes his article “Put Liberals Last This Election” at TheNoticer.news</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The conversation concludes with Joel encouraging viewers to follow alternative news sources.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Good evening, everyone. Tonight I am jumping on stream to have a chat about the election with everyone’s favourite, Joel Davis. Welcome, Joel.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Good to be on.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> We wanted to have a chat about the upcoming election because there’s a lot of discourse that you guys have got heavy on your chest that you want to let out, and I think it’s a good time to do it. We’re on the final leg of the election campaign and you guys stirred up quite a bit of controversy on Anzac Day, so I thought we’d talk about that first.</p>
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<p>One question that I haven’t seen answered, at least on my feed is the things surrounding the planning of it. I want to know, like, was that planned going to the Anzac Day memorial and choreographing that booing. I don’t know what time it was, but I think it was like, maybe five, six o’clock in the morning. Like, what was. What was the plan around that? Give us some bit of insight to that morning.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, yeah, we planned to do it a long time ago.</p>
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<p>I can’t remember whose idea it was originally. It might have been. It might have been Sewell’s.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, the plan was for a while, like, next Anzac Day, if they do another Welcome to Country, which they probably will, let’s do it! And we don’t usually. Like, we didn’t. We weren’t in a big group. We were in some of us aren’t even allowed to associate, so I wasn’t with the boys. Everyone was in little groups and the idea was just, basically just be somewhere in your little. With a few of your mates or with your family members or whatever, whoever you’re going to the Dawn Service with, and if they do a Welcome to Country, or a land acknowledgment or whatever, boo!</p>
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<p>And obviously her got down there nice and early in the mornings. It was right up the front. And so he was able to be so loud that you could actually hear him through the microphone on the television and broadcast it out or project it out to the larger crowd.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, we weren’t expecting them to then make it about us. We thought that the impression would just be that the crowd did it and that it would just be like this kind of spontaneous thing. We didn’t necessarily want the credit, but they managed to pin it on us pretty quickly. They have a bunch of police, like, on the shrine with cameras and everything pointed at the crowd, because I’ve been there before for Anzac Day, for Remembrance Day, and there’s a bunch of cops on the shrine with advanced cameras and they’re just like pointing them straight at us and like staring at us the whole time. And we don’t usually do anything. We just stand there and we just attend the service that we leave.</p>
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<p>We would never come to Anzac Day in uniform and with banners and microphones and megaphones and do any of that kind of thing on Anzac Day because we don’t think it’s appropriate. But what we also don’t think is appropriate is the fucking Welcome to Country! The Welcome to Country, what it fundamentally is a declaration of Aboriginal sovereignty.</p>
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<p>And obviously we don’t believe in that. We believe in Australian sovereignty and that sovereignty was bled for by the Anzacs in the First World War and it was bled for by other veterans of the Australian military in the Second World War and other wars. So it’s ridiculously inappropriate and obviously the people agree with us, which is why it’s had such a engaging reaction from the public.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> I have a question on that specific thing. I said this on stream the other day in the fallout. This was my personal opinion. I said that it had to be someone as polarizing as Jacob to do this because the discourse wouldn’t have existed if it was just a random person on any other given day.</p>
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<p>What are your thoughts on that? Because I think it’s incredible that this has happened and it’s become such a pivotal talking point where the debate last night these guys were asked about it. You know, it’s got a lifespan of over four or five days or four days now. Three, four days. And they constantly talking about it. It was brought up on Sky News every hour all day today, despite the fact that it’s been a few days now. But what are your thoughts on the fact that it. I feel like it had to be someone polarizing to be able to get the discourse and get the ball rolling on the discussion with the broader society.</p>
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<p>What are your thoughts on that?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think, yes, I think maybe because this issue is so potent, because it really strikes at the core of like our identity as a nation, like the question what defines us? Is it Aboriginal sovereignty? Is it the so-called first nations culture? Which is utterly contrived by the way, like the Welcome to Country is a modern invention. The dot paintings was literally invented by a White guy and taught to the Aboriginals. Like they don’t actually have much continuity with whatever their culture was before we showed up.</p>
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<p>There’s been this construction in recent decades of this so-called Aboriginal culture by Marxist academics and so on. And this is part of it.</p>
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<p>And then they gaslight everyone into it being like some continuous thing. When anyone who’s older than, like, 20 remembers that there wasn’t Welcome to Country at everything when we were growing up. Like, this is a pretty new thing that all of a sudden there’s Welcome to Country at everything. And the media has tried to gaslight everyone as if we’ve always been doing this and this is an ancient tradition and all this bullshit, but everyone knows it’s bullshit, really.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, I think because of that. And then also the Anzacs. I mean, Australia Day is a big deal because Australia Day is about celebrating British settlement. And obviously we were all over the news on Australia Day as well, and that’s important.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[07:31]</span></p>
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<p>But the thing is, on Australia Day, what most people are doing is they’re having a barbecue, maybe they go to the beach, have a few beers, and it’s more of a chill, celebrate with your mates and your family kind of day. But Anzac Day isn’t quite like that. Anzac Day, you know, is. It’s more serious because it’s about remembering people who paid the ultimate sacrifice at wartime for our country. So you get up early in the morning, you go to the Dawn Service and you. It’s more. It’s almost like a religious. I’m not going to say almost. It is a religious day for Australians because you are venerating your ancestors. This is an ancient. An ancient tradition of pretty much every civilisation ever to venerate their ancestors. It’s a form of ancestor worship. We’re literally doing prayers to our fallen ancestors.</p>
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<p>So Anzac Day is a very big deal. It’s the most emotional day for a patriotic Australian in the calendar, as far as your nationalism goes. And people have very strong feelings about it for obvious reasons.</p>
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<p>And the thing is that back in World War I, 40% of the military kind of like fighting age men in Australia signed up to go and fight in World War I. 40%. It was like over 400,000 men of only about a million fighting age men in the country at that time. And there was no conscription, so that was voluntary. Australia had the highest participation rate of any of the Allied countries in World War I, other than Serbia, who started the war, and all Serbians had to fight.</p>
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<p>So a lot of Australians served in World War I with the Anzacs, and a lot of Australians served in World War II.</p>
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<p>And so if you’re an Australian who traces your heritage back to that time, you’re pretty likely to have ancestors that served in one of those two conflicts, particularly in World War I, because the participation rate was so high.</p>
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<p>So it’s something that’s in our blood as Australians. And you know, people say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, World War I, it was like a war for it was a war for the British Empire. They were in Gallipoli, they were in France. What does Turkey and France have to do with Australia?”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, it was a war for Australia because Australia was part of the British Empire and our primary concern was the rising Japanese Empire in the early 20th century. And you can go and read, if you read your history and you read the statements by our prime ministers and our leading politicians at the time, diplomatic conferences, at the Imperial conference with the British and so on, we were constantly bringing up the issue of the Japanese. And the Japanese had defeated the Russians in a war in the 1900s, mid-1900s, just after Australia was federated. And that was a big deal. That was the first time a non-White power had defeated a White power in the modern world. So people were like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, the Japanese are serious. They could beat the Russians in a war. These are serious mother fuckers!”</span></h3>
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<p>A few years later, they annexed Korea, they just take Korea and they show that they had an expansionist intent. In the lead up to the First World War, there was a great anxiety in Australia of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, what happens if the British Empire isn’t there to protect us?”</span></h3>
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<p>So we had to make sure that the British won World War I against the Germans and the other powers allied with the Germans, because if they didn’t and the British Empire collapsed, we were going to be a sitting duck, we thought, potentially for an expansionist Japanese Empire.</p>
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<p>So that was why Billy Hughes, our Prime Minister during World War I, when he addressed the people, to convince them to sign up to fight in the First World War, to become ANZACs, 65,000 of which died and another almost 150,000 of which were wounded. He had to convince the people to go and fight in France and ultimately in Turkey. And what he said was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I bid thee go and fight for White Australia in France!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s what he said to the people. It was the idea that if we weren’t going to be able to have a wide Australia policy anymore, if the British Empire collapses and the Japanese, you know, invade us and subjugate us.</p>
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<p>So that was paid for in blood.</p>
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<p>Obviously the British Empire was one of the victorious powers in the First World War. And the same logic went into the Second World War. When we went to the Second World War, it was the same logic. Australians didn’t go and fight in North Africa and in Southern Europe against the Germans because they were morally repulsed by National Socialism or they were concerned about anti-semitism or <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> anything like that they were simply trying to defend the British Empire because they were concerned about an expansionist Japanese empire which at this point had taken half of China and was really showing that it had a will to dominate the entire region that we were in. Because Japan invaded China in 1933, six years before World War II broke out in Europe.</p>
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<p>So that’s why we went to war.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[12:24]</span></p>
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<p>And then as soon as the war with Japan started in 1941 or 1940, then immediately our prime minister said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve got to bring the boys back!”</span></h3>
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<p>And he pulled all of our boys out of North Africa, out of fighting the Germans and the Italians and brought them back here to fight the Germans. And the British abandoned us. The British Empire collapsed. They failed in Singapore, they pulled out, they lost Hong Kong, they lost a lot of their territories that they controlled in Asia. The British Navy retreated. They were all focused all their energy on fighting the Germans.</p>
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<p>And so we pulled our boys out of Europe and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, well we’re going to fight, we’re going to fight for Australia here.”</span></h3>
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<p>And we completely abandoned the war in Europe for the rest of the war to fight here against Japan or in our region and with the Americans who came in on our side.</p>
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<p>So World War II was about fighting the Japanese Empire and really World War I was about defending ourselves against the Japanese Empire. Both of these wars, the way that was perceived by our politicians and by the public, by the media, by everyone in Australian society was about protecting White Australia in the face of an expanding yellow empire. And even you could say the wars in Korea and in Vietnam that were then for in the 50s and the 60s, obviously that was in the Cold War paradigm against communism.</p>
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<p>But it was a similar concern of like, if communism rips through Asia, eventually they’re going to have their designs on Australia.</p>
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<p>And so what motivated Australians to go and fight in Korea and in Vietnam was a very similar motivation. Even though the concern wasn’t the Japanese this time, it was instead the communist powers of Asia expanding. And that’s the threat that faces us today. When we think about what would World War Three be, would probably be an American led alliance against China and that we’d be involved in that as well. And that’s what’s being prepared for basically right now by our political class.</p>
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<p>So that’s the geopolitical context that in which we fought.</p>
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<p>And the reason why we were going and fighting in places like Iraq and Afghanistan was because America is our partner from a geopolitical standpoint against an ascendant China. And we wanted to maintain the favour of the Americans now that the British Empire has collapsed after the Second World War. So all of Australia’s foreign policy can be understood in those terms and their sacrifices can be understood in those terms. And we can have our criticisms. The British Empire, it was taken over by jewish bankers and commercial interests and it had many flaws. And the American Empire definitely is taken over by jewish bankers and commercial interests and has exceptional flaws and is also responsible for using its soft power in our country to subvert our political system and bring us into this neo-liberal shitscape that we now live in. But that’s nevertheless the case. That was, that was what the logic was behind a lot of these wars and why these men were fighting.</p>
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<p>And so when we venerate their sacrifice, we’re venerating the basis upon which Australian sovereignty is even possible. And whatever criticisms you have of the various wars, and I have criticisms, I don’t think we should have been in Iraq, that was a war for Israel. I don’t think we should have been in Afghanistan, that was completely irrelevant to our national interests and so on.</p>
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<p>But that nevertheless, and obviously I don’t think that we should have gone to war against the Germans. I think there was a complete failure for the British Empire which ended up collapsing due to prosecuting that war against its interests when the Germans didn’t even want war with the British Empire. In fact, they wanted peace. And that’s well documented.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> I just saw a hilarious comment. Sorry, I saw a hilarious comment. Don’t let Joel monologue for two hours. He won’t stop unless he interrupts him. Let’s go back. Let’s go, let’s go back to this.</p>
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<p>So it’s interesting because I think that this, like I said from my original question, this course wouldn’t have happened with regards to the last three days, the longevity of this event at the Anzac Day Dawn Service if it wasn’t someone as polarizing as Jacob. Now one thing that I wanted to bring up, which I thought was just absolutely unbelievable and it actually just proved us all right. It was stunning when I saw this morning.</p>
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<p>So this was actually, I posted this at 6:30 in the morning the other day because it was this, it was so outrageous! I have been documenting that the anti-vilification amendments that you guys are so against as well and I think rightfully everyone else is against it.</p>
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<p>The fact that the Victorian government actually sought legal advice to see if they could prosecute what Jacob had done that day. It’s come out, I think it was yesterday that they couldn’t lay charges. They wanted to summons him for some sort of charge that they wanted to make up like they did with your stunt at in Adelaide on, was it Australia Day.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think it’s landed anything. I don’t think there’s a charge that’s landed yet. But let’s roll this.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Oh no, I’ve been charged from Adelaide. A lot of us are still fighting it in the courts.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> My understanding is that he hasn’t been charged. The police, I understand, said to Jacob that he could expect a summons over an offensive behaviour charge. But that’s different than the anti-vilification.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah. Let’s roll this. And then I want to get your thoughts on what said.</p>
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<p>So this is more of a news sort of commentary on it. It’s not any one politician talking about it.</p>
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<p>But I think it’s interesting because it’s basically vindicated that they’re going to try to use it to prosecute anyone that tries to be pro-Australia in any which way. It’s not going to be used to prosecute anyone that offends the Indians or the jewish community. These, these laws in my opinion were amended in response to a hoax and then a whole bunch of other criminal offences that were done by organised crime. We spoke about this the other time on stream and then all of a sudden it’s come out that they’ve passed these laws on the back of a hoax and now there’s an investigation to see if we can repeal them, at least in New South Wales. Victoria, I’m not so sure that’s going to happen. But let’s roll this and then we’ll talk about it. Hopefully the audio works.</p>
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<p>Let me just make sure. Unmuted. Okay. Can you hear it?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No.</p>
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<p><strong>Sky News:</strong> Protests at yesterday’s Anzac Day service in Melbourne are unlikely to meet the criminal threshold under Victorian anti-vilification laws. Convicted neo-Nazi Jacob Hersant led boos and chanting during the Welcome to Country according to the Age. Government and legal sources don’t believe the booing constitutes punishment under Hate Speech laws. The neo-Nazi disruptions during the Anzac Day Dawn Service at Melbourne Shrine of Remembrance have been condemned.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, so, yeah, so they’re just talking about the fact that they’ve tried to see if they can prosecute Jacob under the new Hate Speech laws, the anti-vilification amendment. So what are your thoughts on the fact that you guys are being, you’re the primary example of basically all of these laws that they’ve passed over the last three months now. And it’s just so happened to be under the, like the consequential, the, it’s the consequence of these things happening to you guys now is off the back of being pro-Australia.</p>
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<p>What are your thoughts on that?</p>
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<p>And do you think that it’s probably no surprise, but is it a surprise that you guys are like exhibit A on the chopping block for this, for these laws?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, it’s not a surprise. I think we’re probably within a national context the most high profile Nazis on the planet today. Maybe the Azov Battalion in Ukraine, you could say are more high profile.</p>
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<p>But in terms of like the general political discourse of a country, most places they just kind of ignore people like us. But probably, I would say partly due to the type of activism that we do, which is particularly provocative and interesting to people, but also due to a hysterical political class, they kind of fixate upon us in a very intense way. And anytime we do anything in public, apparently we need to be. The police have to do something. There’s all this pressure from communists, from Left-wing journalists that are secretly communists or maybe not so secretly communists and from jewish groups and so on to come after us. And you know, obviously it’s ridiculous!</p>
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<p>But when it comes to this, it has to be said the anti-vilification laws that were passed recently in Victoria actually aren’t in effect yet. They don’t go into effect until September.</p>
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<p>So they’re talking about the old anti-vilification laws. The ones that go into effect in September are so broad it’s hard to know exactly how far they could go. So I guess we’re going to have to wait and see after September how that goes.</p>
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<p>So that’s part of the reason why they couldn’t prosecute. The same reason why I still haven’t been charged even though they raided my house and took my stuff and said I was under investigation for vilification when I did the jews Hate Freedom rally. Because under the old laws, there’s a political speech exemption and there’s a much higher threshold that needs to be met for what constitutes vilification. Under the new laws that have been passed but aren’t in effect until September on a criminal basis. Basically they can just say that, well, Aboriginals are offended or jews are offended or whoever the supposed group being targeted is offended. And so at that point, you know, who knows how broad that’s going to be. We’re going to have to wait and see until it goes through the courts, I guess.</p>
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<p>I don’t think the laws are constitutional. They removed the political speech exemption that was originally in the originally proposed laws at the behest of the Liberal Party. A Liberal Party requested that at the behest of the jewish lobby. They said we’re not going to support these laws unless you remove the political speech exemption. Which is what makes the laws constitutional because we have a constitutional right to political communication.</p>
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<p>But yeah, there’s no equivalent, there’s no like equivalent exemption in the new laws. They’ve been completely removed. Liberal Party ended up voting against them because for some other reason.</p>
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<p>But basically they just kept the political speech or they kept the kind of removal of the political speech exemption out of the, out of the legislation. So the legislation in my opinion is unconstitutional. We’re going to test it in the courts.</p>
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<p>But basically there is no exemptions other than the so-called Sam Kerr exemption which, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Which was discussed. Yeah, which was discussed in the media, which is that, well if you’re of a so-called disadvantaged group and you vilify a so-called advantaged group, meaning if you’re non-White and you talk shit about White people or maybe if you’re a homosexual and you talk shit about straight people or something, then apparently you can say whatever you want. And that was the Greens asked for that and then Labor put that in order to get the Greens vote to get the law passed despite not having the support of the Liberals. So total shit show! But that’s the laws. So again they’re not in effect yet.</p>
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<p>But yeah, under the current laws, like I said, he might still get charged with offensive behaviour, which is a really vague law and we’ll see if that goes to court.</p>
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<p>But it’s a very minor charge that doesn’t have. The anti-vilification laws are very serious with like multiple year jail terms, whereas the offensive behaviour charges, a very weak summary offence that it’s on, you’re unlikely to do jail time for. So they might not even bother because they don’t think it’s worth their time and energy to go after him for it. Maybe they will. We’ll see. I haven’t heard that he’s been charged yet. I’m sure it’ll be publicized if that does happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, yesterday that they’re unlikely to charge. And you’re right to. I think you’re right to have reminded me. I remember I saw what’s his name from Victoria, the Libertarian MP. He was actually there until four in the morning. They passed just like they passed the amendments in New South Wales at like 4 or 5 o’clock in the morning. So even I was unaware that they were actually. They actually re tabled it to get these laws passed.</p>
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<p>But one thing they did bring up in his video, he said that they don’t come into law until later this year. So there’s enough time for people going into the election next year in Victoria to at least experience it so they can say:</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> There’s no way the Liberal Party will repeal it because the Liberal Party in Victoria are totally controlled by the jewish lobby more than any other state in Australia. I mean they’re controlled nationally but the jewish community is particularly, politically, active and hysterical in Melbourne and they have a vice grip over the Liberal Party. Like I said the Liberal Party refused to vote for this originally because it was too lenient on people who were engaging in political speech. Because obviously the jews want to basically ban anyone from engaging in political speech that they don’t like that’s critical of Israel or the jewish lobby or the jewish community. And so they asked for that to be removed and they got it.</p>
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<p>And then they started going on about a very, like a small kind of piece of minutiae in the law. They didn’t actually oppose it in principle in any meaningful way. And they could then go to the people and pretend that they opposed it.</p>
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<p>But if you followed it closely like I did, you would realise that they’re scum! Like they’re complete frauds, they’re liars! And I fucking hate the Liberal Party! We’re not going to get anything from voting Liberal Party back in Victoria that we want. We won’t. There will be a complete disappointment.</p>
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<p>What is necessary in Australian politics is for Right-wingers to completely defect from the Liberal Party and start voting for the Right-wing minor parties.</p>
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<p>And right now in Australian politics, supposedly the centre line is drawn between Liberal and Labor. But Liberal and Labor are the same! There is barely any distinction of meaning, a meaningful distinction between these two parties. We need to redraw the line between Liberal and the rest.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> So the election’s coming up on Saturday, right? You would have thought that Peter Dutton would be so empowered off the back of all of those firebombings, the graffiti all over the joint, the, what was it called, the synagogue being burnt down in Melbourne and then all of these laws being passed in response to it and the caravan in New South Wales in general.</p>
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<p>You would have thought that off, just off the back of that. And then Sky News broadcasted a massive anti-semitism Summit that Peter Dutton would be supercharged and empowered off the back of that he would be a dollar three favourite by the bookies to win! Just off the back of all of those consequential series of events.</p>
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<p>You know, that was like a five month lead up going into this election where he had all of that galvanised support from the jewish community, from the lobby groups and the sentiment in the public sentiment was there as well. How come he’s not winning off the back of that? I’m curious to know what you think of that because you would have thought that that would be the circumstances that he would face him.</p>
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<p>But right now he’s basically given up. I think just. I watched an interview that he just did with Shari Marks and no surprise there, they’re trying to revive the campaign in the last three days before Saturday.</p>
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<p>But yeah, what are your thoughts on that? Because I would think that off the back of the last five, six months, he’d steamroll Albo because of the sentiment was there, the public sentiment there. The laws were passed. He was the face of it in terms of the political leadership.</p>
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<p>But you know, his trending is gonna be probably getting spilled as leader maybe if he loses quite convincingly on Saturday.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I mean, his seat, the seat of Dixon, which is his seat in Brisbane. He only won by less than 2% margin in the last election and I could see him potentially losing there, particularly if the Trumpet of Patriots voters turn on him as they’ve been instructed to by the Trumpet of Patriots controversial how to vote cards.</p>
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<p>But yeah, the story is a few things.</p>
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<p>Number one, have you noticed how since the election was called, they really kind of shut up about the jews, like the first day or two, they made sure that they went to the synagogue and you know, showed the jews that they were on their side.</p>
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<p>But obviously they focus grouped it and realised that it was incredibly unpopular with the general public. The general public are not interested in Israel. They don’t care about Israel, they don’t care about the jewish community and they don’t support taking away our freedom of speech. And they’re sick of hearing about anti-semitism. So they completely shut up about that.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Since the election campaign, they’ve barely brought it up. I think you’re right. They’ve only brought it up maybe once or twice at the early days of the election. They have not brought it up once since. Nothing!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, the Liberal Party had all the momentum before they started passing all these attacks on free speech. That was when they had the momentum late last year. October, November, December, they looked like it was inevitable. It seemed like Albanese was done, Labor were done. The election was going to have to be called soon. And when it was going to be called, they weren’t going to have a hope.</p>
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<p>And then the Liberal Party decided to champion the cause of the jews and the cause of freedom of speech. And obviously labour were just as complicit in all of this. But I think that turned off a lot of their base.</p>
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<p>And the story of this election has not been labour accumulating a great degree of popularity. Labor has, they’ve increased the Indian vote, they’ve increased the immigrant vote. And immigrants, particularly Indians, love voting labour and so that’s bolstering the Labor vote. But the real story of this election is how the Liberals have lost votes to the Right. The Right-wing minor party vote is going to be higher than ever before this election in Australian history. I saw a news poll the other day that had One Nation polling over 10%. And that’s not even including all the other parties that Rennicks, People First Party, they’ll probably do decent. Trump and the Patriots will get some votes. The Libertarians will get some votes. The Family first, the Shooters and Fishers and so on. It could add up to about 20% quite feasibly in this election.</p>
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<p>So what Dutton and the Liberals have done have completely lost their own base and justifiably so. I’ve never seen such strong public sentiment on being against the Uni-Party and so many Right-wing attacks on the Liberals. And the Liberals have failed dismally to win us over, basically. People like you and I who are obviously, kind of obviously we don’t have the same ideology but we’re in this kind of populist right kind of milieu. We’re not being won over. And this is in the context of in European politics, conservative parties in like basically every European country have shrunk and have become dwarfed by populist parties that are kind of attacking them from the Right. In almost every European country.</p>
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<p>Obviously in America, we’ve seen Trump kind of railroad his agenda into the Republican Party where 10 years ago Trump seemed like a radical and an outsider. Now he’s a normal Republican. The Republican Party has been remade in his image and obviously I’m not a Trump supporter and it’s nowhere near enough the changes that have been made, but it’s clearly a step in the direction of populism and away from what conservatism was in the standard, you know, early 2010s conception.</p>
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<p>Liberal Party, however, have not changed. They have completely maintained the trajectory that conservatism was on before this kind of populist backlash. They haven’t adapted to it at all! They’ve cucked on every single issue! They I was watching your coverage actually of the debate last night and it was the first debate I watched between Albanese and Dutton because honestly, life is too short. But I thought it’d be interesting because I wanted to see if they would talk about the booing on Anzac Day. And they did. I was interested to hear what they would have to say. But there was one point where Dutton attacked Albanese on immigration when they were talking about housing and he said:</p>
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<p>So we have like ridiculously over the top immigration. We have a historic housing crisis. It’s caused by immigration. No matter what anyone says. It’s the case. In Canada they had a similar housing crisis and the Left-wing government party in power cut immigration to Net Zero. Imagine if Labor a year ago cut immigration to Net Zero to try and like win voters back from the coalition. That’s basically what happened in Canada and it’s kind of worked for them. It looks like they’re going to win the Canadian election, which is coming up very shortly as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, but I just saw a story on that.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but the conservatives here basically have accepted according all the mainstream news and they’ve finally accepted after we’ve been arguing with them for years. That immigration is causing the housing crisis! It’s not that we’re not building enough houses. Australia builds more houses per capita than any other Western country except I think Switzerland. So why do we have a housing crisis? Because we have the highest rate of immigration per capita of almost any Western country. That’s why. It’s obvious, it’s demand.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> I don’t know if you saw this story, but this came. This was in the news today. I only just heard about it a couple of hours ago.</p>
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<p>So they’re apparently bumping up the student visa fees by, I think it was like $400 per, per application.</p>
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<p>And then there’s going to be approximately like, I think it was about half a million people had applied for it. Let me see if I can find the number. And then only like a quarter of a million. Only a quarter of a million people came to Australia on student visas. And this is just student visas.</p>
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<p>So not only are they still letting in between 250,000 to half a million depending on how many students show up, they’re bumping up the price of it so they can make more revenue off the back of it. This was hidden in the Labor budget and only just came out in the news today.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But look at this. Labor has promised to cap international student commencements at 270,000, while the opposition has said it will be 240,000. That’s like, what even is the fucking point? Yeah, what even is the point? Like, Liberals could have just lied and pretended that they were going to cut immigration and then just like what Albanese did. Albanese lied before the last election about immigration and then just opened the floodgates. They could have just lied and won, but they’re that in the pocket of the property lobby.</p>
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<p>The number one industry in Australia that donates to political parties is the property lobby. I talked about this in my article in The Noticer on why we should put the Liberals last this election. And the largest recipient of property lobby property industry donations is the Liberal Party.</p>
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<p>So if the Labor Party is willing to bring in this many immigrants and the property industry still thinks they get a better deal with Liberal than Labor, that goes to show that they’re pretty confident that the Liberals aren’t going to cut immigration by any significant degree. The number one donor to the Liberal Party is Harry Triguboff, Australia’s richest property developer. He’s a jew as well, by the way. He runs Meriton or his company, Meriton Properties or whatever.</p>
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<p>So that’s why that’s why basically The Liberals have lost this election because they care more about getting money from the property lobby than about actually winning elections. They would rather lose the election and get that sweet property bucks in the pocket. Trump lied and campaign on an issue that they could easily win on, which is just cutting immigration.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Do you think Trump lied with these policy of mass deportations then? Because the numbers don’t stack up, at least at the moment.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, it seems, yeah, of course. Seems like he lied, but that’s normal. That’s these cuckservative leaders always lie. But the Liberals are that in the pocket of these donors. They didn’t even have the temerity to lie. That’s how pathetic it is.</p>
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<p>I mean, I talked about this in the we need to understand the Liberal Party are a Left-wing party. They’re not a Right-wing party. Give me one conservative policy that they have. They literally kicked someone out of the party the other day because he said that women shouldn’t be in combat roles in the army. I mean,</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s insane! What, like what are their other policies? It was a Liberal Party that legalised gay marriage. It was the Liberal Party in the 1970s that made multiculturalism official state policy in Australia. Under, in the late 70s. It was the Liberal Party that took away our guns. In the 90s, it was a Liberal Party that opened up the floodgates to mass immigration to these insane levels that we’ve been receiving in, under Howard. It was Howard that really opened it up. So Liberal Party again and again and again has been at the forefront of all these Left-wing agendas that are destroying our country that conservatives hate. If they keep voting Liberal. It’s like, when are you going to realise that these guys are your enemies? Stop voting for them!</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah. And just like this video here, it gives ammunition, easy ammunition for the Labor Party to be able to use these talking points to galvanise their support.</p>
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<p>So this video is from a couple weeks ago. Now Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has once again taken aim at the Liberal Party candidates, slamming one for blaming the Illuminati for Australia’s downfall, another for claiming, claiming feminists caused Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss. And Benjamin Britton, the candidate that you’re talking about, for saying that women shouldn’t serve on the front lines of the ADF. I’ll play the video because like I was saying just a second ago, it just gives them easy talking points to target the Liberal Party and just keep on firing at them and galvanizing their support off the back of it.</p>
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<p><strong>Albanese:</strong> And this week if we look at the seats that we are hoping to be successful in, they include Leichhardt with Matt Smith and you compare it with the other mob. I mean they’ve got candidates, they got a candidate for the Senate here who’s connected up with Illuminati rubbish! I mean that is who they are running in seats. They got a bloke in Queensland in Leichardt in a held LMP seat who’s a cooker who blames feminists for U. S election results. What is he saying? Women shouldn’t vote? I mean these people have selected shockers. They had to get rid of their candidate in Whitlam because he came out with all sorts of theories about women not running, not being allowed to be in combat forces.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> So yeah, it just, it just gives them easy talking points to target the Liberal Party and you know, my sort of knowledge and experience around these like this political commentary space is only just begun from the top of Covid.</p>
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<p>But I think that it’s just embarrassing to see the Liberal Party leadership.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Just how out of touch are these people? Do they really think that people want women serving on the front lines? Like that’s insane! Like Albanese is talking about it like oh these crazy lunatics, these fascist, you know, conspiracy theorists that think women shouldn’t be on the front lines in war. Like what? Like wasn’t that only changed like a few years ago? And it’s insane! Like what you think women aren’t going to vote for you unless you, unless you let them go and fight on the front lines in war. Women don’t want to do that! It’s ridiculous! It’s like this Welcome to Country thing. They were talking down to us and to the Australian people like oh like these crazy extremists that are against the Welcome to Country. We all support that. And then it’s like no we don’t. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> The average Australian does not support any of this nonsense! And the Liberal Party are so out of touch. They think the crap that they say on the media on even on Sky News, they think that this journalist Canberra, inner city Sydney and Melbourne bubble reflects what Australians, like normal Australians think and feel. These people are completely out of touch and they’re a minority.</p>
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<p>But instead of actually trying to appeal to the average Aussie battler, the kind of person who would actually vote for a proper Right-wing candidate, instead they’re trying to chase after these like Teal seats or something in the inner cities and appeal to like deranged, you know, rich Boomer women who like watch the ABC all day! And it’s like, why are you chasing these lunatics? Go after your actual base. But it just shows they’re not actually a Right-wing party. They don’t give a shit about any of the values that we have. And they need to be treated as a Left-wing party and we need to give our support to the actual Right-wing parties that are, that exist. They’re not perfect.</p>
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<p>I don’t think Rennick or the policies with Trumpeter Patriots are perfect. They don’t go anywhere near far enough obviously for my liking. But they do seem like as if they’re actually genuinely decent policies that would make the country better. That if the Liberal Party adopted the same policies, they would probably win. It would win on those policies. The only reason these smaller parties aren’t able to compete yet is because people are so stuck in the red team, blue team dichotomy, they think they have to pick one of these two options.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> So let’s talk about party politics. So I’ve got this article from the other day. I think this was just yesterday that I had up before here. So it goes:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Neo-Nazis quietly forming a political party to try to get around the law.”</span></h3>
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<p>The interesting thing about this article and this story is the fact that they want to try to close the loopholes that they’re accusing you guys of trying to exploit in being able to have the political freedom of association. Now I’ve just looked it up here:</p>
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<p>So I’m just trying to find ones that wouldn’t, that would probably hinder you guys, because I’m interested to see how they would stop you.</p>
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<p>So at the moment the “<em>ineligible member types</em>” is someone that’s not enrolled. It’s a duplicate member. Fake or false member. Underage person, dead person. The details are wrong. You’ve withdrawn consent. Which means if someone tells the AC I’m not a member during the membership audit, they will be disqualified. Non Australian citizens and members of the registered parties.</p>
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<p>So it looks like unless you, as long as you follow all of those requirements, the there’s currently no loopholes that they’re accusing you of that they can not approve your application.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but they even say in this article that experts agree that they can’t stop us.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, so that’s what I want to get to. So let’s talk about that.</p>
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<p>So what’s the idea behind that? Because I think it’s interesting that you guys want to do this, not because you want to form a party and take a stab at politics. I think it’s more interesting the commentary behind it. So what you were just saying before, the fact that they’re going to try to shut you down and breach the Constitution for you because you know, you guys have the right to be able to do this. You’re not breaching any of these requirements from what I can tell. This is probably the only requirement that I would see that would be that they would try to drag, drag you through the mud having ineligible members because you guys are so, you know, polarizing in the eyes of the government, the eyes of the AEC, perhaps.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They can’t, they don’t have a legal basis to do that.</p>
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<p>And actually there’s strong High Court precedent and constitutional precedent on that they can’t ban political parties in this country. If you follow the reasonable, very reasonable, apolitical, necessarily apolitical requirements of the Electoral act and the AEC regulations, which are very reasonable and basic. And you just basically need your 1500 members. They can’t stop you. They tried to ban the Communist party in the 1950s. They weren’t allowed to by the High Court. They then had a referendum. They asked the Australian people, can you give us the authority to ban political parties? And the Australian people, at the height of the Cold War, when everyone hated Communism, they said:</p>
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<p>And they maintained that anyone can form a political party in this country. Then in the early 1970s, multiple National Socialist political parties were formed and contested elections. There’s precedent.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> So what about these two requirements? So not genuinely a political party. If the group is truly organised for a political party example, it’s a sham front. They can reject it. What if they say to you:</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They are going have to prove that in court. We actually want to. We actually think we can get people elected. We believe we got good candidates and we’ve got a compelling campaign strategy. We think we can get people into Parliament and we want to have a crack. Like, we actually think a lot of people would vote for us. We think we’ve got great policies that no one else is offering and that we’re interesting. I think there’s a lot of Australians that are just completely fed up with this political system that will go:</p>
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<p>You know, like I think there is a market for us out there.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> What about this requirement? So your party name must not copy, resemble or cause confusion with the existing political party. And then prohibited words as well. What if they turn around, say the National Socialist, words, those., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We’re not gonna, we’re not going to register at the National Socialist Network. That’s not what the name of the party will be. And that’s not our intent. We’re not going to register as a National Socialist with National socials in the name of the party. That’s not the name. And yeah, you can’t register a party that has. But even so, I don’t think they could actually ban. If you wanted to register National Socialists. I don’t think they could. I don’t think they have grounds like to say that’s offensive because it’s not like, it’s not. You’d have to like have like a swear word in the name or something crazy! Which obviously we wouldn’t do. That’s insane! So I think we’ll be fine.</p>
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<p>And at the end of the day if they knock back one name, we’ll just come up with another name. Like there’s a point at which like legally they got no leg to stand on. They’re just going to have to let us get registered.</p>
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<p>And what I would say is, well, to the system is, isn’t that what you want us to do? Haven’t you been saying like you’re against extremism and you don’t want political violence and all this kind of stuff? Okay, well we’re trying to just be law abiding and participate in the political process like everyone else and form our party and let the people decide. If they don’t want to vote for us, they don’t have to. If they do, they can. We’re living a liberal democracy. Isn’t that what you want? Don’t you want us trying to work within the system and do things the right way, the legal way? What happens if you don’t let us form a party? Well, number one, you’re going to de-legitimize, you’re going to break the Constitution, we’re going to beat you in High Court.</p>
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<p>So you’re going to give us a huge High Court victory when we beat you and force you to let us have a political party and something going to promote the party even more and get us even more votes. So go right ahead and do that.</p>
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<p>But second of all, you’re also going to basically de-legitimize the system that we don’t actually have a liberal democracy to everyone. And number three, what the ASIO have said, what Mike Burgess has said, the head of ASIO when they grill him in the Senate kind of inquiries and so on about us and about extremism, is that the likelihood of extremism coming from the so-called, you know, White supremacist far-Right, whatever spectrum is not people from us, not people from our organisation, but people who become demoralised, who think that there’s no chance for us to have any effect in politics, there’s no chance at political victory, or a political solution that sit there and engage in some kind of lone wolf attack because they just sit there stewing and feeling black pilled and then do something stupid. That’s what Mike Burgess said many years in a row is the greatest threat. So let us give them something to believe in. They won’t commit a terrorist attack because they’ll think:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we’ve got, here’s a potentially a political solution. We’ve got the party, we’ve got the boys running, got campaigns. I can get involved, I can do, I can be a productive member of civil society and I can argue my case, my reasonable, rational case for my views in the public square.”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s supposedly the system that we have. So just let, like, let us participate. If you don’t like us, don’t vote for us like anyone else.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> And they, I’m just looking up here, it’s quite interesting. So Jordan McSweeney, which I know it’s kind of strange, but this is Jordan McSweeney, this young, these people, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Jordan McSweeney is a full on communist, this is a full on communist far-Left lunatic extremist! And they will him out as an expert. Imagine if I became an expert on the far-Left and the media started interviewing me about the Greens and Antifa and Victorian socialists and I was like:</p>
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<p>And I went into the media and started like, just attacking them in the media as an expert. That’s basically what these people are like. They’re not experts, they’re activists!</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, but well that’s what I’m saying. Like just off the back of his profile, Jordan McSweeney researches the FAR right with a focus on the organisation and communication of far-Right parties. And movements. He’s the author of Far Right Political Parties in Australia. His work has been published. Blah, blah, blah. Jordan is a senior research fellow at the centre of Deliberative Democracy and Global Governance at the University of Canberra. So it’s no surprise that he resides in Canberra. But going to the article, it’s he proves your point for all he’s worth. Jordan McSweeney who researches the far-Right in Australia expects if the group does clear the 1500 member threshold it will be approved as a registered party. But standing up candidates to drive real political change is unlikely to be their main game.</p>
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<p>So that’s up to debate. You’ve just given your opinion on that. But he even says that as long as you have 1500 ballot members it’s not like they’re going to be able to stop you because you do meet those requirements. I can’t see at least from what I’ve read here any reason why they could. That’s why I brought up every reason that they could possibly do it focusing on the members side of things because I think if anything they’re going to try to target you guys individually like they have already.</p>
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<p>So let’s talk about the election. I mean I don’t really have too much to say off it. I’ve put out how to vote cards because I just wanted to put out a resource there and just say hey, this is what we think would possibly give provide us with the best possible outcome.</p>
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<p>But from what I’ve done over the last couple of years with the streams specifically we’ve all realised there’s been a big learning curve for me just how valuable the Senate is and getting the best possible candidates in the Senate to stop these laws passing.</p>
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<p>What are your thoughts on like this week, this is the final week of the election. What are your thoughts on the actual election itself, the campaign, the campaign strategies of both parties? And do you have support for anyone in particular one candidate or any particular party going into Saturday?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, what I’ve already said is that I think if you’re in Queensland you should put Gerard Rennick number one. I think he has, I think he’s the best option that is likely to get realistic, that could get elected. I think basically wherever you are you should put all the Right-wing minor parties first before you put any of the other preferences. Do not put the Liberal Party above any other Right-wing parties. Now my personal view is that the Liberal Party should be put last. I would vote everyone and personally I’ll be voting everyone ahead of the Liberal Party. We’re putting them dead last in both houses.</p>
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<p>And the reason for this is that I think they need to be punished. They are traitors. Labor, the Greens, everyone who has their head screwed on understands the problem with the Left-wing parties and that they’re not our friends and that they’re working against us. But what Australians need to see is they need to see the Liberal Party losing support and the Right-wing minor parties gaining as much support relatively as possible.</p>
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<p>So they start to believe in the ability of the Right-wing minor parties or some combination of them to rise up and take the Right-wing vote off a Liberal Party. And that’s going to take multiple election cycles. But that needs to be our objective.</p>
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<p>And so we need to start working towards that by basically sabotaging the Liberals as much as possible and destroying them as much as possible to create space for the further Right parties to rise.</p>
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<p>And then we could have a coalition of further Right parties that will actually be far more responsive to our concerns, that’ll be, that’ll have far better policies that will actually fight and take on the Left and it’d be much better for the country. And I want our party to be one of the parties in that coalition. That’s an objective that we have maybe in the coming decade or so. like I said earlier, we need to redraw the line, the centre line from between Liberal and Labor to between the Liberals and the Right-wing minor parties. That’s what we need to start to draw our friend-enemy, distinction.</p>
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<p>So I think, yeah, in Queensland put Rennick number one. I would say in New South Wales. I like Greg Kelly. Not everything he does I agree with. I was upset at him some of his remarks the other day and I get upsetting him from time to time.</p>
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<p>But I think he’s a pretty good candidate and I think you should put him number one in New South Wales, considering the other options.</p>
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<p>But yeah, in general, generally speaking, whatever state you’re in, just put the Right-wing minor parties at the top. I don’t think One Nation deserves to be at the top of your ballot, because One Nation are the most acquiescent of all the Right-wing minor parties to the Liberal Party. They created a preference deal that will help the Liberals get elected in a lot of seats. They never attacked the Liberal Party. Pauline Hanson has openly stated this election cycle that she wants Peter Dutton to become prime minister.</p>
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<p>And I think that One Nation there’s a lot of reasons to think that it’s actually a front, a Liberal Party front. I’ve been saying this for years. The James Ashby, the homosexual who’s Pauline Hanson’s right hand man, who basically runs the party, in all intents and purposes, he is from the Liberal Party. His claim to fame was being the sexual assault victim of Peter Slipper. So he’s having gay sex in the Liberal Party and then defects from the Liberal Party and then now he’s basically running the One Nation Party. I don’t really trust him. I think he’s probably an agent of the Liberal Party dirty tricks department, which is a real department that exists.</p>
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<p>So I don’t trust him. And I don’t trust the One Nation Party. And when the rubber hit the road over Christmas time, when they were attacking our freedom of speech, where was Pauline Hanson? Where was Malcolm Roberts? They were sitting on their hands saying, doing nothing.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile the Libertarians were fighting, Ralph Babet was fighting. And he’s not technically Trumpet of Patriots, but basically is. He was fighting the other Right-wing minor parties. Rennick was fighting.</p>
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<p>And so I think they should be rewarded because they were actually standing up for us when it actually mattered. Even though it was futile. They were standing up when no one else was. And One Nation said and did nothing. They took the L. And then Malcolm Roberts goes before one of these Senate committees and I saw a clip of this and he decides to ask our intelligence, the heads of our intelligence agencies and police agencies, not what is going on with these false flag hoaxes that seem to be connected to the state of Israel as foreign state actor. You know, Rennick was calling that out. He was calling out the Mossad, he was calling out the false flags. So was Babbitt. What was Malcolm Roberts doing? Malcolm Roberts was saying:</p>
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<p>So he’s in the pocket of the jews and the Zionists. And I think One Nation are in general.</p>
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<p>Whereas I see more dynamism from these other Right-wing minor parties, more independents. Trumpet of Patriots. I didn’t like the name, I didn’t like the approach. I don’t think that Suellen is very personable. Whoever’s running it. She seems like an AI bot. Their logo seems like it’s AI generated.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> What definitely is AI generated. The logo.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Everything seems AI generated and then they just there’s something inauthentic about it. But I’ve been actually kind of slowly won over. Their policies are pretty decent. Their messaging has become decent in recent weeks. They’ve been taking on the Liberal Party and attacking the Liberal Party, attacking the Uni-Party.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s fantastic! That’s what we want to see from the populist Right-wing. We want them taking on the Uni-Party rather than being a kind of preference capture for people that are kind of further to the right of the Liberal Party. And so I’ve been impressed with them. I think they deserve to go above One Nation.</p>
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<p>Rennick, very impressed. Great policies. Intelligent man’s smartest man in the Senate. He’s got good nationalist policies. Seems to be a man of integrity. I don’t agree with him on everything. I think he’s too soft on mass immigration and things like that. But he’s still a restrictionist and he’s solid on free speech. He’s solid on nationalist policy across the board. And he called out Israeli and jewish influence at the decisive point. And you think he proved that he’s a genuine actor.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, I think the most important thing with these guys and I’ve backed these guys as well, I actually voted for Craig Kelly myself in New South Wales.</p>
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<p>But with regards to One Nation specifically, just I’ve got here, you know, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation is just behind the Greens at the moment in terms of party percentage coming into this election.</p>
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<p>And I think our strategy with at least our how to vote cards and most of the how to vote cards that are out there from independent sources like us, the strategy behind putting them there is just making sure that we get people that are actually going to have the best chance to win! Like in the Hunter, you’ve got. What’s his name?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I mean, in the Lower house, if you’ve got a One Nation, like a lot of the lower house seats don’t have that many candidates. Most seats are not going to have a Rennick candidate.</p>
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<p>But yeah, in the Hunter seat in Newcastle, I saw that the One Nation is polling great there. Like I would put them one there because it’d be better for them to win, obviously.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, so that’s what I’m getting at.</p>
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<p>So our strategy was, despite the fact that One Nation has lots of flaws that you’ve just laid out, we want to put the best possible candidate up that we know that has the best possible chance of actually winning.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s just a matter of getting them to be responsive like the Craig Kelly’s, like the Gerard Rennicks. Because I think one valuable thing that these guys do that other candidates and other politicians don’t do is that they don’t respond to us. They’ve made themselves very valuable to our grievances and to at least have some sort of discourse.</p>
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<p>Even if they don’t change their mind or even if they just decide not I’m stuck on this side this idea or this policy, at least they’re responsive. Other politicians, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Absolutely!</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> They either don’t give us a chance or we have to force a chance our way. We have to you know, throw like literally like the guys over the last few weeks, like Lawrence from what’s news. He had to literally throw himself into lion’s den at that Medicare press conference and just say:</p>
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<p>But yeah, I think that’s the most valuable thing.</p>
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<p>So let’s see what happens. We’ve got the best candidates up from One Nation and everywhere else we want to try to stack the Senate because the most important thing in my eyes is to stop these policies getting through to become law. I really think that if the, if the Senate is still in a position where they have a majority the Liberal-Labour more labour than not at least from up current current trends, they’re going to start bringing back the misinformation Bill again. It’s basically going to be like deja have you from last year where we have to start trying to petition independent Senators again to stop stop the Bill having the numbers. But let’s see what happens.</p>
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<p>I kind of excited but kind of let down as well by the fact that we’ve got to choose between a shit leader in Dutton that basically backed all of these Uni-party policies and created a lot of the infrastructure for you know, the what’s it called the Esafety Commission is a big one that we debated and spoke about a lot over the last couple of years. Them taking down our accounts. They took down a lot of your accounts. They took down a lot of my accounts during Covid. But let’s see what happens.</p>
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<p>Hopefully One Nation wins and then hopefully we can clean up One Nation a bit to make sure that they’re a bit more responsive to what what we want. Because at the moment I feel like they’re serving the Liberal Party and they’re the Pauline Hanson leadership is a bit too stuck and stuck in their own old ways. I don’t think that the they really.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Well, the thing with One Nation is that Pauline Hanson is written into their constitution. Their members don’t have the ability to vote her out and vote other leadership in.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And the members have basically no rights at all! There’s no branches in the One Nation Party. I’ve had friends try to sign up to One Nation to help them campaign this election, and they don’t even get them called back, you know, around the country. And I’ve heard this before, the Queensland election, the same thing. They’re like professional losers. They can be good people that can be put up as candidates. Like, they can somehow get the endorsement in these parties.</p>
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<p>And so I’m not saying put One Nation last or anything. It’s still good for them to do well, even if I don’t like the party because it shows that the electorate is moving rightward and it’s stretching out the conversation. Yeah. They’re still better than. Obviously, they’re actually worth putting in over, like someone from one of the major parties. Like, they are going to vote better.</p>
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<p>But in situations like in Queensland, where you can choose between Rennick or Malcolm Roberts, Rennick deserves your vote over Roberts. Roberts hasn’t earned it. Rennick has. And like in New South Wales, Craig Kelly deserves your vote over One Nation. Like, Craig Kelly tried to join One Nation tried to literally, like a year and a bit ago, he tried to push a strong campaign against immigration and then got frozen out of the party and frustrated and left because they’re professional losers that don’t actually want to take on the government. So then he went to the Libertarians, and now the New South Wales Libertarians are pretty good. They put him in. And I don’t like the Victorian Libertarians, but the New South Wales wing of the Libertarians are pretty decent. And so good luck to him! I think he has a good chance of winning. He has brand recognition. He almost won. He almost got in last time. He missed out by not much when he was running for the UAP at the last election. I would like to take Craig Kelly in the Senate. He’s obviously better.</p>
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<p>And like you said, Kelly and Rennick, they’ll actually respond on Twitter. And they’re responsive to people like us, and they’re responsive to voters and they seem sincere, even if they’re kind of like Boomerish and they’re a little bit behind the times or behind where the Right-wing is going to go in the coming decades. They’re still well intentioned in my opinion.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I definitely endorse them too. I don’t really know enough about the candidates in some of like South Australia, West Australia, to be honest. But I would just say like just put all the Right-wing minor parties near the top. That’s all that matters. And I would say again, put Liberal Party last. They need to be punished, even if it’s short term. Maybe they might do one or two things better than labour, but it’s not worth it. Like punishing them and destroying them and making space for a real Right-wing to emerge in the coming years and teaching your friends to hate Liberal Party, teaching your family, explaining to your dad who watches Sky News or whatever, fuck the Liberal Party, like that’s what we need to do as like the kind of Spearhead of the Right-wing.</p>
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<p>We need to disabuse people of the Liberal Party and we need to punish them and destroy them so that they can never occupy. We need to destroy the dichotomy, the red team, Blue team, Uni-party dichotomy. You need to completely undermine them structurally so that we can create space on the Right-wing for a real actual functional Right-wing.</p>
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<p>And that might mean one election cycle of pain, but that’s already where the mood of the people is. They’re going to lose the election precisely because of this. They’re going to lose votes to the Right, like I said, and they’re going to continue losing votes to the Right. And our job the memes and ideas that are kind of prominent on Right-wing Twitter now are going to bleed down into the general voter base over the next few years.</p>
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<p>So if we all push hard on the kind of fuck the Liberals position over the next few years, it will bleed down. And by the time we get to 2028, the Right-wing minor party vote could be 25%, could be 30%. And a lot of these people could be elected maybe even in the lower house and we could have way more Senators. We could really start to have a kind of dynamic, you know, shift in Australian politics.</p>
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<p>Look in European countries where the Reform Party is now polling above the conservative Party in Britain. And the Reform Party have their issues, but they’re clearly to the right of the conservatives on a lot of issues. And look at like places like Germany. The Alternative for Deutschland is like number one party in Germany now. They have re-migration in their party platform. They’ve got the Freedom Party in Austria polling, they’re the most popular party in Austria. They’re borderline ethno-nationalists, ultra conservative. You’ve got rise in Right-wing minor parties all across the European political system, in France and in Sweden, many countries.</p>
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<p>So we should seek to emulate that and destroy the conservatives because the kind of the centre Right conservative Party, they kind of hold the stability in a status quo. They, the Liberals kind of ensure that this kind of basically there’s no real opposition to the agenda. So whenever the Left push on a new issue, the conservatives, Liberals, they always basically, they provide a very weak resistance and capitulate on the core message or the core points. And we’ve seen that time and time again. We can’t allow that to just kind of perpetuate itself in our political system. We have to actually demand a contest where it’s like a full on Right-wing versus Left-wing, like serious policy differences. Not like oh we want to cut this tax instead of that tax or this excise instead of this kind of tax cut and all this kind of shit that they debate about. That’s fucked! Like if that’s what our political debate is, you might as well not even care. Like the whole thing is we don’t really have a real say, or a real direction.</p>
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<p>The fact that Peter Dutton has kept on calling on John Howard either in commentary or literally physically dragging his carcass out to try to galvanise support. Like he doesn’t realise that people, one, there’s a majority younger voters than non-younger voters that he needs to win over. And two, the younger voters, like even myself I was a bloody probably like what, maybe 4, 5, 6 years old when he was prime minister. Not even like maybe, yeah, three, four years old, something like that. I was born in 92.</p>
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<p>But what I’m, what I want to get at is that we just don’t care about these old dragged out, you know, politicians that they think that are gonna, we’re gonna say oh yeah, because John Howard supports you and because you bring it up and talking points all the time. Yep, you’ve got my vote. I mean I feel like they really need to adapt or perish. And right now they’re gonna perish.</p>
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<p>But yeah, it’s a shame that it’s gone this way. But I agree on that. If anything, I agree that it’s time for them to perish. It’s time for them to be punished for all of their sins and it’s time to galvanise and bring up a new strong Right-wing that is responsive to our grievances, that are actually, that actually resonate with the younger demographic and that aren’t going to be scared to give in to the bullshit, that I just pulled up before from Albo saying because you’ve got an opinion on having women in the army or because you think that the Illuminati might be responsible for certain things in history that you can’t have an opinion and you should be punished for it and kicked out from candidacy opportunities. I think that those days are all over now. I think that we need to punish them.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s adapt or perish and I think it’s time for them to perish. And we are the Spearheads of that. Everyone that follows myself, everyone that follows you guys and the wider community, I think it’s a matter of time. It’s not a matter of if or when. It’s a matter of when, not if. For this to come to a head.</p>
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<p>But what I want to end on is we’ve got what, a few days before the election. Is there anything that you want to plug to let everyone know where you guys are because you guys got kicked off X? I know you guys trying to appeal that, but where can everyone find you for at least the time being?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Well, I don’t think we’re getting back on X anytime soon because there was clearly some high level government order to ban all of us at once from I don’t even know who, what department. Our Freedom of Information requests. It wasn’t Esafety. I got my Freedom of Information request back from them. They have no records pertaining to my banning. They had records pertaining to taking other tweets down and stuff, but not actually the banning. So it’s higher than them. Could be Department of Home affairs, could be the Prime Minister himself. Could be ASIO, could be them asking their friends in the CIA or the Mossad to get rid of us. Who knows?</p>
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<p>But the point is we’re not going to be back anytime soon. But yeah.</p>
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<p>So you can find me on Telegram. The handle is JoelDavistion X on Telegram. And you can watch the show that I do with Blair every usually Thursday night, sometimes Friday nights on Rumble. Rumble.com slash Joel Davis. I’m also on Odysee. Odysee.com Joel Davis. You can find me on Odysee. But Rumble is probably better. So follow me on Rumble, follow me on Telegram. Keep up to date with what we’re doing. Even if you think maybe I’m a little bit too extreme, it’s still interesting. I think the stuff that I put out is still interesting. You should still take it into consideration. It seems like a lot of the ideas that I put out lately have been taken into consideration by more moderate figures.</p>
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<p>Actually, I’ve seen the influence bleed down like Trumpeter Patriots seem to have stolen a few of my talking points, which I am happy to see. You know, I wish Clive could have reached out at the beginning and maybe like swung me some of those sweet Clive bucks. I could have helped advise them get more votes than what they’re probably going to get.</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> But you said something along the lines of instead of spending like 70 million or whatever the number was, just give me one of those and I could have done the whole campaign for you.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. And they probably got like three times as many votes, but you know, 70 million. I saw John McGowan talking about this on a podcast. He said let one of his buddies crunch the numbers and you could buy a controlling stake in Channel 7 for about 70 to 100 million. Which is about what Clive has spent on just this election cycle and all these advertisements he’s taken out everywhere. Clive, just buy Channel 7! And turn Channel 7 into a Right-wing network! Put like replace Kochi with Ralph Babet or something. Give me a show on there and that’s the next election. We will absolutely destroy! Like Trumpeter Patriots or United Australia Party, whatever it is you guys will slap and you can put as many ads on as you want for free because you’ll own the Network. Buy Channel 7 or buy Channel 9 or buy One of these big channels. Clive, stop wasting all this money!</p>
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<p>Yeah, let’s have some actual Right-wing media. Sky jews is not real Right-wing media. It’s a joke! So I’m poor Clive, like you know, invest that money more wisely, dude. Like you could get way further if you played it a bit more intelligently.</p>
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<p>But yeah, reach out if you want. Clive, if you’re watching I can give you some ideas.</p>
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<p>But yeah, yeah, follow me on Telegram, follow me on Rumble. And yeah, put the Liberals last. You can read if you go on The Noticer. Noticer dot News, best news site in Australia by far. They’ve been attacking it lately. But it’s only emboldened the support the readership is flying for The Noticer. Best news journalism. That’s another thing by the way, Clive, you could swing them some cash, they could take you pretty far.</p>
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<p>But yeah, I put, I published it or the notice. I published an opinion piece of mine called “<em>put liberals last this election</em>” a couple weeks ago. It caused some controversy. Some people said:</p>
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<p>They accused me of being a Labor Party shill. I was accused of being a Liberal Party shill a few weeks ago. Now apparently I’m a Labor Party shill. I’m not a shill for either of these groups. I hate both of these parties.</p>
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<p>What I’m saying is I make the case in that article. You can find it put the Liberals last this election. Here it is. Go find that article, give it a read.</p>
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<p>And I think I lay out a pretty compelling case that like in a preferential voting system, it’s not just about who you put first, it’s also about who you put last, because your votes gets recycled and assigned to other parties until you run out of preferences. So yeah, deprive these traitors of your support.</p>
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<p>And yeah, we need to polarise this system. Liberals are the party of Boomers. Young people aren’t voting Liberal. Immigrants vote Labor. So Labor is the party of immigrants. Young Whites in the inner cities, young Lefties, they’re all voting Greens now. Young Whites who are not Lefties need to start voting for the Right-wing minor parties and punishing the Liberals and let them die with the Boomers.</p>
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<p>And then we can have a real political system where it’s like the actual Left versus the actual Right and get rid of, just empty the centre. That’s the direction we got to go in if we want real political change.</p>
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<p>So yeah, check that out. Follow noticer.news if you’re not already. It’s not my site. I’m not involved with it. They publish my opinion pieces sometimes but I’ve supported it, because they do great work! But they’re fully independent. There’s like some fake news going around that they’re like a front of the NSN. It’s not true. They are fully independent.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But what they said in the news was such bullshit! The WhiteAustralia.org is our new website where you can sign up to be a supporter, or a member. And they said:</p>
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<p>But it’s like literally one of the three top Internet hosting providers that millions of websites use. So what does that prove? It’s like, oh what, we both used Amazon hosting, therefore we’re the same people. Like it’s ridiculous!</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Yeah, this is the article here. This was from a couple weeks ago. And you know, as much as people say that they hate what you guys stand for you guys at the forefront of so many of these talking points and you guys have been have become the test case for all these laws and I think it’s more interesting to me that you guys are the test case for all these things that we are concerned about. And you know, it is what it is if it was anybody else I’d speak to them as well.</p>
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<p>But it’s you guys. So it lands on. It lands where the National Socialist Network sits. But good chat man. I think this was thoroughly entertaining for everyone that joined us. Thank you to everyone that joined us. We had probably about a thousand people that’s watched us, a couple hundred on Rumble as well. Just want to say thank you to self sufficient Scotsman for the 10 Superchat and yeah, hopefully we get a good result at the election. I guess we’ll all have to wait and see on Saturday. Thanks for the chat Joel. Appreciate your time.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, thanks for having me on and, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Host:</strong> Thank you to everyone that’s watching as well. Please make sure to share the stream out so everyone can watch it a bit later as well and give us a subscribe on Rumble and follow us on X as well as well because putting out a lot of clips over the next four or five days from the election. I’m sure there’s going to be some more dumb that Albo and Dutton says. So I’ll be at the forefront of keeping you guys updated on that stuff. Take care everybody.</p>
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<p>Plaiedian<br />
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Don&#8217;t forget people are confronting albo about his 200,000 sustainable immigration policy.<br />
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<p>fdgrdfg<br />
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Awesome. Would be awesome to invite Handsome Truth from USA also<br />
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Jews are the problem.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this Apr 24, 2025 livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell discuss Anzac Day and its history:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They emphasise the importance of attending Dawn Services on Anzac Day</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Blair is wearing sunglasses due to an eye infection</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss how the Anzacs fought for a “White Australia” in World War I</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Billy Hughes, our Prime Minister in the First World War, when he addressed the nation and he was basically asking people to sign up to go and fight, he said, ‘I bid thee, go and fight for White Australia in France’.” (10:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They talk about Australia’s fears of Japanese expansion in the early 20th century</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Australia joined WWI to secure British dominance in Asia and maintain the White Australia Policy</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Billy Hughes’ role at the Treaty of Versailles in defending the White Australia Policy (20:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The RSL (Returned and Services League) strongly supported the White Australia Policy until the 1980s</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate over whether every individual soldier was consciously fighting for White Australia (30:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“White Australia was the central animating concept of Federation. It was the central animating concept of World War I.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss a quote from Billy Hughes about Australia’s destiny and “banishing” Aboriginal people (40:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Conversation about how they developed their views on racial inequality</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Australia’s involvement in World War II, primarily as a “race war” against Japan (50:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Britain’s decisions in WWII led to the decline of the British Empire (55:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of how Anzac Day is commemorated today compared to the past (60:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“When we win, Anzac Day is going to be like it used to be again. The people will be inspired again.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of a recent incident where Matt Trihey disrupted a political meeting (friends of the ABC) in Melbourne (70:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of media coverage of the incident (75:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss the “gynocracy” and how it affects society and politics (80:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We live in a society where emotions rule over reason.” (82:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Anecdotes about things being banned in primary school</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of men’s need for competition and outlets for energy</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticism of men who joke about being “domesticated” by their wives (88:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They encourage listeners to protest if there’s a “Welcome to Country” at Anzac Day services (90:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Gerard Rennick and encouragement to vote for him in Queensland (92:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Final encouragement to attend Anzac Day services and treat it as a “religious holiday”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Make tomorrow venerate tomorrow. Make treat tomorrow like a religious holiday. That’s what it is.”</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Okay, we are live. It is Anzac Day, eve, 24th of April, 2024 <span style="color: #008000;">[2025]<span style="color: #333333;">. And a stream for you this evening, a regular Thursday night stream. But we’re going to talk a bit about history tonight. We’re going to talk a bit about the history of our great nation, because that’s what we should all be thinking about and preparing ourselves to be focusing upon tomorrow morning when all of you, all of you better be getting up early, before the crack of dawn and getting down to a Dawn Service, whether it be in the city, whether it be your local Dawn Service! One day a year to get out of bed early and get down there and remember and venerate our fallen ancestors who paid the ultimate sacrifice to secure this continent for the White men! Let their sacrifice not be in vain. But it starts with venerating the ancestors in the here and now, if we’re ever going to ensure that. But we’re going to get into that.</span></span></p>
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<p>But first, my esteemed colleague, Blair Cottrell. He’s looking a bit like a rock star from the early 90s. I just hope that he hasn’t gone on heroin or something. He’s looking a little bit heroin chic. I mean, not skinny heroin chic, but the sunglasses on at night, so it’s a good look though, it’s fresh!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I wouldn’t usually do this, but a couple of days ago I noticed my eye was irritated. Didn’t think much of it. Then it got worse and then it got worse. And now it looks like this. See that? <span style="color: #008000;">[take sunnies off]</span> I saw a doctor and apparently it’s some sort of cellulitis of the skin in the eyelid, which is a relatively serious infection. I don’t know how I got it. I don’t remember being bitten by anything. Maybe I just got unlucky somehow.</p>
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<p>So taking antibiotics, unfortunately. I don’t like to take antibiotics, but there’s some circumstances where it’s necessary to take antibiotics. I know that I’ve had deep tissue infections on a couple of occasions. Really, if not for modern medicine, I would probably be dead because an infection would have got me by now. And I was told that an infection like this, if gone untreated, can actually cause permanent blindness. So thank God that modern medicine exists. Not everything about modernity is bad, I guess. But I’ll be wearing the sunglasses for the rest of the stream because it just looks terrible. I’m not really confident about being on camera with an eye like that, so you’ll have to enjoy the Sunnies, guys. I’m not on cocaine! I haven’t spiralled out of control. Still here. I’m still me.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That was a nice cope story, but, I mean, we all know that Blair’s missus packs a punch. And you know, when you talk back, you better watch out!</p>
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<p>So we’re feeling for you, Blair, and just remember that you can get help. There is a domestic violence hotline.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Not for man! There’s no help for men, bro! Everyone knows it. Even the lawyers know it. You go into court for a domestic violence dispute and you’re a man, you have no rights! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Everyone knows that. So why lie?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Anyways, so I guess let’s get into the show. I’m going to try and do this show in a streamlined fashion this evening because we’ve got to get up early in the morning to get down to the Dawn Service. Which I reiterate, if you don’t get up early tomorrow morning and go down to the Dawn Services – this is for the Australians in the audience – and I think in New Zealand, do Anzac Day in New Zealand the same as us? <span style="color: #008000;">[It&#8217;s the same day]</span> I presume that they do.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Almost certainly! It stands for Australian, New Zealand Army Corps, so almost certainly they would do it.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I presume that they do. I don’t know if they have a different day. I don’t know enough. Maybe if you’re a Kiwi, maybe you could let us know what you do over there.</p>
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<p>But if you’re an Aussie, you better be out of bed 5am and you better be down at that Dawn Service! Because think about what they did for us and all you have to do is get out of bed early one day a year. It’s really not that much to ask.</p>
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<p>But yeah, I want to talk about history tonight and I want to talk about what the Anzacs actually fought for. Because there’s a lot of misrepresentation that occurs at this time of year.</p>
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<p>On Australia Day, the enemy is willing to openly admit that this country was founded by the White man for the White man and condemn it as such, and go on about colonialism and the poor abos and blah, blah, blah, as we’re all familiar with. But on Anzac Day, they take a different approach, tack. Because they know if they were going to on the sacrifices of the ancestors at wartime that that wouldn’t go down with the population. We are not that demoralised. You know, they’re barely, they can’t even really cancel Australia Day effectively. We talked about that on Australia Day, how Australia Day is having a resurgence in popularity precisely because of the attacks being levelled by our political enemies upon that day.</p>
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<p>But on Anzac Day, they try to subvert it. They try to present the Anzacs:</p>
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<p>But it’s bullshit! It’s bullshit! If you know anything about history, it’s bullshit!</p>
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<p>And what the Anzacs fought for in World War I, because it’s only really proper to talk about the Anzacs in the First World War, because in the other World Wars we were fighting more as Australia, or in World War II we were fighting as Australians, and in Korea and Vietnam and so on, we were fighting as Australians. But in World War I they were fighting for a White Australia, and in World War II they were fighting for a White Australia. And these are really the decisive wars that everyone is really thinking about.</p>
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<p>And even in these wars against Korea and Vietnam, against communism, they were fighting to preserve a White Australia. We still had the White Australia Policy, and they were trying to put up a defence against the spread of communism in our region.</p>
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<p>So the men that died in these wars, whether you agree with the overarching politics of these wars, which obviously there’s a lot to discuss in that regard, that’s what they were fighting for! And they said it explicitly. And when it comes to World War I and World War II, the Prime Minister himself said it explicitly! Billy Hughes, our Prime Minister in the First World War, when he addressed the nation and he was basically asking people to sign up to go and fight, he said:</p>
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<p>He said:</p>
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<p>And that might seem maybe a little bit strange to people. What could he possibly mean by that? Why was White Australia up for, threatened by events in Europe? And there’s a long version of the story, but I’ll start with the shorter version. The basic version is this.</p>
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<p>Australia at that time, obviously a very young country, but only been federated in 1901. About three years after we federated, the British Empire entered into an alliance with the Japanese. And the Japanese were an emerging power in the Asian region. They started building up a big navy. And the British, which at the time had the best navy in the world, and the best shipbuilders in the world, were actually helping the Japanese to build up their navy. As part of this alliance, the British saw fit to make an alliance with Japan because that would then basically take some of the pressure off them trying to command the seas of East Asia if they were allied with the pre-eminent Asian power. And there was a lot of competition at that time for control in East Asia. The Germans were trying to get established here. You had the French, I’m talking about East Asia or the East in general. The French and other European powers were involved, and the British wanted to maintain dominance.</p>
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<p>So there was an alliance with Japan. It was widely criticised, but it was ultimately in Australia because of the basically the fear that it would force us to cuck on the White Australia Policy. Because the Japanese did not appreciate the White Australia Policy. They said:</p>
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<p>And the response at the time, actually by Deakin, who was a founding father of our country and Prime Minister, second Prime Minister of Australia, was to say that:</p>
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<p>But anyway, we obviously secured the White Australia Policy, but the British made us kind of tone it down basically not to offend the sensibilities of the Japanese. And so there was a resentment on that basis and a fear of Japanese expansion.</p>
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<p>And then in 1905, the Japanese did what at that time was unthinkable. They defeated a European power in a war. They went to war with Russia and they defeated Russia in 1905! And that shocked the world. It was the first time a non-White country had defeated a White country in a war in all of modern history. And so that sent shockwaves through the world that, well, perhaps the White man won’t just be able to rule the world carte blanche with no resistance.</p>
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<p>So this struck fear into the hearts of Australians in general because the idea was, well, the Japanese turns expansionist power. A few years later, they conquered Korea. Fears increased.</p>
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<p>Now, of course, the British Empire had a formal alliance with Japan. But they said:</p>
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<p>The fear was that if the British Empire was to lose its dominance in the region, that we would ultimately fall under the control of these powers and then potentially non-Whites would be able to enter our continent, and the White Australia Policy would collapse.</p>
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<p>And so all the rhetoric and all of the political machinations at that time was building a defence force in Australia that could defend Australia, but also propping up the British Empire because Australia had such a small population so that the British Empire could defend Australia and therefore defend a White Australia. Because if we were to fall under the control of some other empire, they could force us to open our borders and bring in their merchants and bring in their workers and so on and we would lose the continent to other races, literally. And this was explicitly, I’m not just saying this is what all the newspapers were saying. This is what all the politicians were saying. This was our primary concern politically in this country at the beginning of our history.</p>
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<p>And there were a lot of elements in Australian politics, particularly in the Labor Party at the time, who were upset at the British Empire, who thought that the British Empire, you know, was basically taken over by jews, bankers and so on. They didn’t give a fuck about Australia. That they had this kind of multiracial, international corporate empire that was ruled by not the almighty dollar at that time, because it wasn’t the dollar but the almighty pound. And that they weren’t concerned about the racial future of Australia. But nevertheless they recognised that because we were of the British race, we were part of the British Empire, that it was our best bet at securing our position in the world.</p>
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<p>And so they were willing to go – I mean, Billy Hughes was Labor, he was a Labor man – they were willing to go and fight for the British Empire to ensure they won the First World War, to ensure that the British Empire remained strong, to ensure that it continued dominating East Asia, to ensure that we could continue having a White Australia Policy. That’s why we got involved in World War I. It wasn’t just because of some kind of like British patriotism or loyalty to the Empire. It was a pragmatic decision to secure a White Australia.</p>
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<p>Of course, people felt good feelings towards the British Empire. We were of the British race, of the British stock. But there was also a strong sense of nationalism in Australia all the way back at that time, a keen sense of what was in our interest as a people.</p>
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<p>And so that was what was determined that we have to go and fight to secure the future of the British Empire and also to win the Right by participating in that war to have a say about the direction of the Empire. And what Billy Hughes did at The Treaty of Versailles at the end of World War I and the during the establishment of the League of Nations, is he pushed very hard against members of the alliance, such as the Japanese and others who wanted to push for, &#8230; League of Nations, by the way, was the prototype of the UN. It was the first attempt at creating a UN. And there was a proposal put forward by the Allies that won World War I to establish this prototype of the UN called the League of Nations, to basically establish a principle that racially discriminatory immigration policies would be abolished basically in the world. That this was horrible and racist and so on all the way back then. And Billy Hughes pushed very hard against that. He said:</p>
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<p>And we successfully won. We convinced the Americans sided with us, the British sided with us and ultimately that provision was taken out. The Japs weren’t happy about it, but they didn’t have enough sway. So Billy Hughes came back to Australia announcing victory:</p>
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<p>And also New Guinea, today known as Papua New Guinea, was under German control. And this caused a lot of concerns back in those days. We also secured that under our control at that time.</p>
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<p>So the idea was not simply about defending the British Empire because we loved the King. And we were Anglo Saxons or something. It was a specific concern with Australian national interests and how to secure this continent for the White man. And everyone knew it! And when the soldiers came back and they formed what became known as the RSL, which is the largest body by far to represent veterans that have fought for Australia and fought for the Empire. They came back to Australia, they set up the RSL<span style="color: #008000;"> [Returned and Services League (of Australia)]</span> and immediately became the strongest lobby group in an already very racist country for the White Australia Policy. With the first president, second president, third president of the RSL and so on, making constant statements that their members fought and died or fought and sacrificed because their members obviously were still alive and their comrades who died for a White Australia to secure basically Anglo supremacy in the world, and to secure this continent for the White man. That’s why they fought. And that any kind of acquiescence on the White Australia Policy they would consider a betrayal. And they reaffirmed this after World War II.</p>
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<p>And in fact, the RSL was the last major public organisation in Australia to abandon explicit advocacy for the White Australia Policy. It wasn’t until the late 80s, the late 1980s, long after the White Australia Policy was abandoned by the government that the RSL finally abandoned its advocacy for the White Australia Policy.</p>
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<p>So if you see Anzac Day ceremonies tomorrow, they try to tell you that:</p>
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<p>They did fight against the Germans, they did fight against the National Socialists. And they were misguided, you could say, ultimately, and putting their allegiance to the Empire, because the Empire in the Second World War ultimately betrayed us and it collapsed. It betrayed itself and collapsed.</p>
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<p>But that’s why they fought. That’s what their sacrifice was about. Every single man on that battlefield, that’s what he was fighting for. That’s why he went to France, that’s why he went to Gallipoli, that’s why he went to Kokoda*. So that needs to be held in full consciousness and ruminated upon.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Kokoda Track campaign or Kokoda Trail campaign was part of the Pacific War of World War II. The campaign consisted of a series of battles fought between July and November 1942 in what was then the Australian Territory of Papua. It was primarily a land battle, between the Japanese South Seas Detachment under Major General Tomitarō Horii and Australian and Papuan land forces under command of New Guinea Force. The Japanese objective was to seize Port Moresby by an overland advance from the north coast, following the Kokoda Track over the mountains of the Owen Stanley Range, as part of a strategy to isolate Australia from the United States. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do you think it’s reasonable to assume that every fighting soldier was conscientiously engaging in the war? That whatever it is, they were fighting in World War I, World War II, because they were fighting for White Australia? Every Australian soldier actually was fully aware and conscious of their ethnicity and they were fighting to defend their ethnicity? Or would you say that maybe war propaganda plays a part in the reason for why they’re fighting? They might have been spelled by some series of slogans produced by the government. They might have been made to hate the enemy. They might be in it for glory, for honour. They might just be in it because they’re bored and they want to do something with their lives that’s interesting. I think there’s probably a complex of reasons. I understand what you’re saying. I understand that the Statesmen who were in favour of the war, they obviously had their reasons, which were nationalistic in essence. But I think the individual soldier, he fought for his own reasons a lot of the time.</p>
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<p>However, it’s my understanding, or it’s my feeling rather, that there was a collective, how should I describe it? Some sort of collective understanding that was unspoken, that the Australians understood that they were a specific ethnic group, that they were a certain type of people, an extension of the British colonies, but still their own kind nonetheless, and that they were fighting to defend their kind, they were engaged in the war for that purpose, collectively.</p>
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<p>Yet on an individual level, if you were to interview each soldier, if that was possible, for argument’s sake, I’m sure they would give a series of explanations as to why they were fighting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I think the collective reason why they were fighting would have been in for the maintenance or expansion of their own ethnic presence, power, that kind of thing, defending their own kind I think. What do you reckon?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well at the end of the day though, like these politicians that were talking about these ideas, they were elected, they were running on these ideas. They were saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We must defend a White Australia. This is what we need to do to prepare to fight and defend it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they were voted into government, you know, according to those statements they were making to the public.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s funny, isn’t it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Australians were not forced, Australians were not forced to go and fight. They were not forced. There wasn’t conscription in World War I. They signed up voluntarily to go.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> What I was saying is, isn’t it curious that the phrase “<em>White Australia</em>” right now would be something that a lot of people wouldn’t be comfortable using in regular conversation because they’ll be accused of racism or something worse. But less than 100 years ago maybe even 50 or 60 years ago, that phrase was just commonly used and understood as an obviously present and correct thing. Like everybody understood that White Australia existed. White Australia was a real cultural, ethnic identity and it was who we are. It’s who we are as a people. In such a short time people are now have been, or people have been made to feel uncomfortable and frightened to even use that phrase. It doesn’t take very long, does it with effective propaganda to turn a people against themselves? To make them too afraid to establish any right to exist, too afraid to fight for their own self-determination.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That phrase White Australia was the central animating concept of federation. It was the central animating concept of World War I. It was a central animating concept of the first half of this federated nation’s existence, in politics. The White Australia Policy was the policy of the government that was most in concern for the people and for the politicians! It was the defining principle of our country. It wasn’t just an idea, it wasn’t just something that people liked or sometimes talked about. It was an obsession!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And those men gave their blood. They died for that ideal. Ultimately that was what it was explained to them that the war was about. In all of the, all of the media publications. All these publications that we still know today, like the Sydney Morning Herald and the Melbourne Age and all these things, they used to be virulently White nationalist racist publications. They used to be! They used to talk, like <a href="https://www.noticer.news">The Noticer</a> today has tamer language than what the Sydney Morning Herald had in like 1910. That’s just the reality and that’s how the culture was in those days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the so-called Anzac Myth. People talk about that, how there was a the soldiers were described rather poetically by journalists and other writers in the Australian press during and after the First World War. That ANZAC myth was fundamentally racist. It was describing the Australian soldiers essentially as great eugenic specimens, talking about how they were the superior Anglo Saxon and like, comparing them as a stock to the British in favourable terms and so on, and describing how on the battlefield they showed our racial fortitude was superior to the enemy and this kind of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when Australian politicians were justifying certain policies, like policies to make military training compulsory nationally and things like that, they would come to the people and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“If you are a proud White man, how could you oppose my policy?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, they would literally appeal to you on the basis of White nationalism, on the basis of your, like, Aryan honour to justify their policies to you. That’s how politicians used to talk to the people in those days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:49]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when you read Australian history, you realise this country was more racist than like even probably any country in the world at that time. And there was this pressing concern. I just posted on my Telegram this quote from Prime Minister Billy Hughes. He was our wartime Prime Minister in the First World War. And Billy Hughes, by the way, was a full on Darwinist, basically. He had a dog-eat-dog, highly racial, like a kind of view of history as racial competition. You either fight for your survival and assert your supremacy or you get crushed by other races. That’s how he saw the world. It was very Hitlerian, proto-Hitlerian, you could say. And in some, in some ways you could say Billy Hughes was more savage than Hitler in some of his statements and speeches on this, on these issues.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this is a quote from Billy Hughes. This is during a ceremony that was conducted in 1913, a year before the beginning of World War I, when they started building Canberra. Because at the beginning of Australia, Canberra wasn’t built yet. At the beginning of Federation, there was a dispute between Sydney and Melbourne as to who got to be the capital.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the compromise was struck to build the capital city in Canberra for the purpose of serving as the nation’s capital, to kind of assuage this conflict between the two major cities, right? And Billy Hughes said this at this, at the ceremony where the foundational stone of Canberra was being laid. When they started building Canberra, to quote:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are here so far as we can to mould the destinies of a nation. The deity has fashioned us out for this purpose from the beginning. We were destined to have our own way from the beginning and America, two nations that have always had their way, for they killed everybody to get it. I declare to you that in no other way shall we be able to come to our own except by preparing to hold that which we have. Now, we are here as visible signs of a continent. We have a great future before us. The people are incapable of nourishing abstract ideals. They must have a symbol. And here we have a symbol of nationality. The first historic event in the history of the Commonwealth we are engaged in today without the slightest trace of that race we have banished from the face of the earth (meaning the Aboriginals). We must not be too proud, lest we should too in time disappear.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is how the leader of our country thought before World War I. You know, tomorrow if they do a Welcome to Country, that wasn’t what they fought for. The man who led us, who led the Anzacs into the First World War, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I bid thee go fight for White Australia in France. We have banished the Aboriginals from the face of the earth. Let us struggle so that we are not banished like them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That was how this man thought. That’s how this man spoke and addressed our nation. That was the man that we elected to rule us, to run us during that war. And who was celebrated as a hero, a national hero at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what we need to have consciousness of around this. Like this is not up for debate. Like it is black and white. The Anzacs fought for a White Australia!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Did you ever believe in racial equality at any point in your life?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think when I was young, growing up, I did kind of have a default egalitarianism of sorts where I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, well, you know, fairness would dictate that every people deserve a certain dignity or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I did, as I started to get into my teens, I did become conscious of the fact that there were relations of supremacy and superiority. And I did remember feeling pride from basically the first time I thought about it, in the fact that my race was clearly such a powerful and strong race in world history and in contemporary history that we were all kind of top of the food chain or it felt like we were top of the food chain. And I did also remember becoming conscious of the jews around that time because there was a lot of discussion of Israel and so on we’re talking about this is during like the Iraq war and zionism. And I kind of became vaguely familiar of like conspiracy theories around the Rothschild banking family and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I remember thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, well that kind of puts the whole Holocaust thing in perspective. Like they said that Hitler was trying to take over the world and the guy, the guys he decided to take on were the jews. And apparently these jews run all these banks. And now we’re our whole like global superpowers are fighting to defend their country, Israel. What is that all about?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so that did make me kind of start to see, &#8230; I remember feeling like, okay, maybe that would justify, like I didn’t at that time I didn’t realise the Holocaust was fake, but I started to think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, maybe that would kind of justify doing something like that if you felt like that was your main competitor for supremacy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But these were kind of vague thoughts. Like it took me multiple years to kind of formulate them more ideologically because the conditioning is very strong in our culture to think in terms of egalitarianism and that like supremacy is in a certain sense immoral.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just kind of thought about it at that time more as like a kind of, from a realist, pragmatic standpoint, maybe there are necessary evils that you can sympathise with. And you know, in my late teens I became familiar with like Nietzsche’s philosophy and so on and started thinking about things more in those terms. But it probably wasn’t until I was 19 or so that I really fully internalised that as a worldview and came to that like ultimate kind of conclusion of thinking about the world in terms of that like kind of inequality is just nature and it’s just reality. And that either you’re the top of the chain or you eat shit! And it’s much better to be top of the chain than to be eating shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:01]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I remember I used to get angry at people for being racist, like in primary school and early high school days.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought that was a good thing for me to do because I was standing up for what was right, what was fair. Because as you said, the conditioning was strong. That’s what I had been conditioned to believe was right. But I started to see the obvious realities of racial differences and even genetic differences between people of the same race. And I realised that people aren’t equal. I realised that pretty quickly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one thing that always, because I went through, so I’m just getting a message from someone. I went through a stage where I actually felt like White people didn’t have culture. I felt like only dark skinned people were cultured. And White people just didn’t really have anything like that. Because I wasn’t thinking about what culture was. I didn’t have a good understanding of culture. To me, culture meant music and family values and doing things together as a family and painting your face and having all of these kind of spiritual, greater meanings to family traditions and shit like that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I didn’t see culture as great stone structures. I didn’t see the kind of culture produced by the race to whom I belonged. And I can recall, I always was curious about the Nazis, because whenever I saw footage of the Nazis, the Germans, on History Channel, I heard how crazy and evil they were, yet so many people followed them! And they looked so polished, they look so good!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the explanation didn’t really match the aesthetic that was being presented to me on these channels. So I was always curious to learn more about the Nazis. But whenever I tried to, there wasn’t really a lot of information there. It was just like, these guys are evil, these guys are crazy! Especially if you tried to get your information from Hollywood entertainment you weren’t really getting much there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, let’s talk about World War II, actually, because obviously on Anzac Day, we don’t just venerate people from the First World War, but also the Second World War. And I think that’s important because people say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you know, Joel, you’re a National Socialist, you’re obviously sympathetic towards the Germans, yet you’re venerating men who fought many of them against Germans, a lot of them against the Japanese, who were German allies in the Second World War. And ultimately you think the Second World War was a horrible thing, the way that it went and that the Germans lost and so on.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that requires an explanation, perhaps, and we’ve talked about it before, but I think on a day like this, it’s important to discuss this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Number one, recall what I was saying about World War I. The animating concern of the First World War for Australians was the Japanese. And the Japanese weren’t even our enemy during World War I. They were our ally. But we saw that the Japanese would expand and become an increasingly powerful force in the world. And that was why we chose to ally ourselves with the British. Well, we were already in the British Empire, but why we chose to commit so intensely to the British Empire to the point that we sent 65,000 of our own sons to go and die for the Empire in the First World War, in the beaches of Turkey and in the trenches of France.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Second World War vindicated these fears. Right? Because what was the Second World War? Well, the Second World War, it started in Europe, in 1939, but arguably it started in Asia in 1933 when the Japanese invaded China. And the Japanese were rampaging their way through China, through the 1930s. And this was setting off massive alarm bells in Australia. And ultimately, of course, the Japanese ended up forging an alliance with the Germans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so this very much factored into our enthusiasm to fight in the Second World War, our concern that if, well, if the British Empire was defeated in the Second World War, which ultimately it was, we can get on to that, but it was defeated by the Germans in the Second World War, that basically we would be left defenceless against this radically expansionary Japanese Empire that was allied with what would have been the German victors. That concern is what inspired men to fight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And ultimately, from a bird’s eye view, it was incorrect for us to fight against the Germans. The betrayal happened really in London. The British should never have gone to war with the Germans. The Germans wanted an alliance with the British. And then even after the war began, they also wanted to make peace with Britain and were rejected many, many times.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that ultimately was destructive to the British Empire. The ultimate victors of World War II was not Britain. On paper, it was Britain, but it wasn’t. On paper it says that they won, but look at the practicalities of what happened. The British Empire fell apart immediately after World War II at the hands of the Americans and the Soviets, their so-called allies, during World War II. During World War II, the Americans extended massive loans to the British which they made them repay in full. They extended massive loans to the Soviet Union, their supposed communist enemy in the Cold War. They didn’t make them repay, they didn’t make them pay back one cent in order to fight the Germans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There was an intent by the Americans to use the conditions of World War II and kind of World War I as well, actually, to an extent, but in particular World War II, to basically bankrupt and break up the British Empire and then integrate its remnants into an American led, liberal, democratic international order.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now moving over to the Pacific, the Japanese were a real threat. They did want to take over our region. I don’t think they wanted to invade Australia directly, but they did attack us. They did bomb Darwin, they did send <span style="color: #008000;">[mini]</span> submarines into Sydney, they did invade Papua New Guinea, or New Guinea, which was actually our protectorate. So they did attack us. And they also attacked the British Empire and Australian soldiers in Singapore and other places.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:27]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what World War II was primarily for Australians was a race war against Japan to ensure the dominance of the White race over the Asia Pacific region. And ultimately our main ally, and that was the Americans, was the British Empire didn’t have the capacity to defend us. They basically abandoned us in World War II. And we kind of abandoned them largely earlier on in the war. In the early years of the war we went and fought the Germans and the Italians in North Africa on behalf of the British Empire.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then once the war with Japan kind of began, we pulled our guys out, we said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, we need to bring them home to defend Australia.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We basically pulled out of the European theatre of the World War and stop really participating in it, brought all the guys back home and just focused on fighting Japan for the rest of the war. We weren’t really involved in the ultimate defeat of the Germans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that needs to be also kind of taken into consideration. When we’re venerating our ancestors, we’re venerating mostly from World War II, our ancestors who fought a race war against the Japanese which was a valid race war and a necessary race war in order to preserve our sovereignty. Unfortunately because of basically the traitorous government in Britain which made decisions to the benefit of their jewish financier backers rather than the British Empire itself, they refused peace with Hitler, they refused alliance with Hitler which would have been in their actual geopolitical interest in order to essentially be complicit in the defeat of all European empires including themselves by the communists from the east and the American, like liberals, from across the pond.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the British Empire was no more. And now Australia was left even though the Japanese were defeated, we were now left basically dependent upon an American led international order. Basically became part of an American Empire rather than a British Empire.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And due to being part of that American Empire we became infected with all of the ideas that ultimately destroyed and unravelled the White Australia Policy and kind of sent our country on the trajectory that it’s now on today, one of suicidal self destruction!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the same thing happened to all of America’s so-called allies in Western Europe. Their so-called allies in Western Europe also have gone on this suicidal trajectory of self destruction as is America itself because it’s ruled by a kind of anti-White jewish oligarchy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So World War II in that sense was a mistake. But at the time America seemed like at that time America was a 90% White country. An America that had millions of members in the Ku Klux Klan, who had a racial restrictive immigration policy, who had segregation in the south, because obviously they had black <span style="color: #008000;">[post —]</span> slave populations, but they had segregation. No one at that time could have foreseen the trajectory that America was on, except maybe like, a few really philosophically wise individuals. But the average person and the average statesman could not have foreseen what would come of America.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the decisions that were made at that time by our leadership and the feelings and sentiments of the people and the soldiers at that time, I think, were fundamentally noble and virtuous. These people were not traitors. John Curtin, our prime minister in World War II, he was not a traitor! I think he was sincere, sincerely trying to take the steps that he needed to defend White Australia. And ultimately, when the war with Japan began, he pulled everyone out, all the Aussies, out of the European and African theatre and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You got to get back here and fight to defend White Australia here right now and mobilise the whole country to fight Japan.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we emerged victorious with many great military victories over the Japanese, particularly Kokoda, which was particularly impressive. So that’s worthy of remembrance and veneration. Absolutely!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What do you think about that, Blair?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> God, I don’t know. Which part?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, World War II in general. Because obviously you share my sympathies towards the Germans under National Socialism, but at the same time, you’ll be remembering our ancestors. I think you have ancestors who served in World War II? I do.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’m not exactly sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[40:10]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> As I was saying before, though, I was getting at something. I was saying that, yeah, I felt White people didn’t have a culture, but I was always curious about the Nazis. And I started to learn more about National Socialism by reading Mein Kampf. And I learnt a lot about it. And I had to tell everybody! I had this girlfriend, right? And I wouldn’t shut up! I kept talking about the point of life basically being about breeding up, about enhancing your genetic stock and not degrading it through miscegenation or just genetic downgrading. And we talked a lot about that. I chewed her head off about it a lot. And sometime later, she said to me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, I agree with you and I understand what you’re saying, and I’m glad that you have taught me about alternative World War II history. I’m glad that we discussed the reality of race and the point of life, as you call it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But she said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I was happier before.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She said to me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I wish you didn’t tell me these things because I was happier before.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Now I feel like I can see a giant elephant in the room now. I feel like I’m surrounded by retards, like dysgenic retards, and it’s depressing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah? And we parted ways a short time later and I never spoke to her again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is a regular person, a person who’s intelligent enough, a member of Australian society, to understand the reality of race and how important it is not to throw away what you have genetically, ethnically.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then when she came to understand that, she just acknowledged to me, admitted openly that she was happier before she knew that! The society she grew up in basically pushed the opposite message, and that she felt like an outcast. She felt like she wished she hadn’t been told that. She wished she never had to understand that, because it was depressing for her.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do you think the average person. This is like the question that I’m getting to. Do you think the average person can be a National Socialist? Do you think they’re capable of enduring what they have to endure? Do you think they need to be a National Socialist in order to vote for a party that represents those ideals? Because I don’t feel they are capable. I don’t feel they have the strength.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I feel like a small leadership group has the strength, but the ordinary people, the masses, they’re neither capable nor willing to be ethnic nationalists. Has there ever been a time in history where the entire country, any country, has been consciously ethnically nationalist, every single member? Or have they just been more concerned about their own personal lives and misgivings? Are they actually geared to participate in politics and philosophy on the level of being a conscious ethnic nationalist? Do they need to be? What do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I mean, obviously Australia in the first half of the 20th century was a consciously ethnically nationalist people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Was it, though? Was it, though? Was it, though? Because you go through old footage, there’s old ABC footage, and it’s from like the 60s or something, I think. And even then you’ve got people saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I’ve got nothing against this race and that race. And a few of them can come in. That’s okay, as long as they’re not intermarrying.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s in the sixties. So things are starting to change. The television was introduced and the kind of post World War II judeo-American propaganda started getting disseminated and so on, and the culture had shifted quite significantly at that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in the early 20th century I think the culture was very staunchly racialist. The media, the clear political will of the people as represented by who they were voting for and what kind of policies were convincing to the Australian people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also the lead up to the Federation of Australia, the Labor movement in this country the political movements in this country in general all geared towards racial preservation. And labour movement was engaged in a lot of industrial action that was basically geared against the use of coloured labour and so on. The public overwhelmingly supported them. When you had kind of race riots and so on, &#8230; Because like look at for example the Eureka Stockade*. The Eureka Stockade was essentially like an armed rebellion against the government at the time. The leaders of the Eureka Stockade ultimately were not thrown in prison, they were basically given a slap on the wrist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Eureka Rebellion was a series of events involving gold miners who revolted against the British administration of the colony of Victoria, Australia, during the Victorian gold rush. It culminated in the Battle of the Eureka Stockade, which took place on 3 December 1854 at Ballarat between the rebels and the colonial forces of Australia. The fighting resulted in an official total of 27 deaths and many injuries, the majority of casualties being rebels. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And then a whole bunch of them entered politics and got elected into the Parliament and one of them became the Premier of Victoria and then they passed a whole bunch of legislation greatly restricting immigration into the colony of Victoria at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the people rallied around violent rebels that were opposing the importation of Chinese labour basically. And these policies were also wildly, wildly popular in New South Wales and Queensland, all the other colonies where they experienced non-White immigration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then that was the fuel that led to Federation, that was the fuel that led to World War I etc. And the enthusiasm that the people had for these things. When the “<em>Great White Fleet</em>” they called it, which was the American Navy came and toured Australia and visited in a kind of friendly way in 1908 it was greeted by massive crowds. They’re basically described like there’s never been crowds that big in Sydney or Melbourne before to come and see these great ships of the US Navy and then all the speeches that were being given as:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look at this great White power from the other side of the Pacific Ocean! Look how exceptional their big ships are. We need to be allied with these, with our kind of Anglo Saxon brothers from across the Pacific against you know, the yellow menace! And what proud, what great White men these people are and what testament to area ingenuity, these great feats of technology are!”</span></h3>
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<p>And people were ecstatic about this and it was like a big deal.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Great White Fleet – On 20 August 1908 a round the world peace mission by the American fleet arrived in Port Jackson, Sydney. The US navy was on a round the world cruise which had set out eight months earlier on 16 December 1907. The sixteen warships, led by the flagship Connecticut, were painted white to denote peace. They would be known as The Great White Fleet. <a href="https://mhnsw.au/stories/general/great-white-fleet/">https://mhnsw.au › stories › general › great-white-fleet</a>]</span></p>
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<p>Can you imagine people acting like that today? No, it was a completely different world back then. When they opened the shrine, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[46:49]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do we still have people or do we just have pre-programmed goyim? Is that the problem? Well, think about it. That’s a serious question. The people as thinking, feeling, independent creatures as they were pre-television. Do we still have people like that? Do they still exist? Or are they just morons out there waiting to be told what to do and how to vote? And do we need to adjust ourselves to the receptivity of the moron in order to make any sort of political success? Or are we counting on a people support from a people that are no longer there?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I think the television definitely radically degraded the consciousness of the masses. I think you can see a massive shift when the television is invented and widely disseminated in the politics of every Western country. And what comes with that you get second wave feminism, you get mass immigration, etc.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And it’s even worse! It’s worse. It’s not just television. Have you, like, Zoomers can’t write. Zoomers cannot write! Have you seen the handwriting? They can’t count money. Like the screen error has made it even worse! Like new generations are even more retarded! They’re kind of more radical because they’re so desensitised, but they’re still more retarded!</p>
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<p>So we’re dealing with a different type of humanity than the sort of humanity that accepted ethnic nationalism as self evident. We’re dealing with a completely different type of humanity.</p>
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<p>And so I’m not sure whether ethnic nationalism will fly on a large scale. I think Aussie pride might fly or something really simplistic. And you as the leading force, can be an ethnic nationalist organisation with your own extensive philosophy, but the person that you’re trying to appeal to, the sort of human you’re trying to appeal to, isn’t actually capable of understanding anything about ethnic nationalism. They’re capable of being racist a little bit. And maybe you could make them feel more confident about being racist, less afraid of consequences, because that’s what stops them from being racist.</p>
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<p>At the end of the day, it’s just fear of consequence. If there wasn’t the applicable or necessary fear of consequence out there in society, people would just be as naturally racist as they’ve always been. It’s fear that stops them from doing that. So you could make them feel more comfortable about being racist. But my gut tells me that the average person out there in society isn’t actually capable of giving themselves over to a conscious ethnic nationalism. But I don’t really think they need to be at the same time.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, the masses don’t necessarily need to be because the masses largely get led around by, &#8230; I mean, the masses aren’t really in support of what the government is currently doing either. Most people don’t agree with pretty much all the major policies of the government. Most people are sick of the woke stuff, they’re sick of the transgenderism. Immigration isn’t popular. The policies of the government are not popular and they’re getting less and less popular through time.</p>
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<p>And I think as you said, the younger generation, it’s kind of polarising in both directions. But you know, without the television generation, they are a lot less trusting of authority. They’re a lot more kind of open minded to different ideas.</p>
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<p>And what we’re seeing in Europe or what we’re seeing in America is that the younger generation is actually extremely Right-wing. So like in America, the younger Zoomers are way more Right-wing than even, than any other generation. Like the age bracket between 18 and, 201 is the most Right-wing of like almost any generation in America at the moment. And also the other thing is that racism and nationalism, these aren’t very complex ideas. Black people, not that smart. Black people are intensely loyal to each other politically.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, but that’s because there’s no consequence for not being loyal to each other.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But that shows that like in principle, like it’s not about the stupidity of the masses or anything, as you said, it’s a social game. So what is going to give White people the confidence to be racist? It’s a real question. It’s not that they’re not capable of racism. It’s actually a natural thing. Or that it wouldn’t be possible.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Less consequence.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s about how do you inspire them, how do you basically give them a sense of permission, or a sense of inspiration or some kind of how do you attract them to the principles of nationalism and racism? That’s the question. And there is a way to do it. There has to be because it’s inherent.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Needs to be something in it for them. They need to benefit from it and not lose. And a result of being racist currently they lose and they lose hard. So if they can benefit from being racist, they’ll do it all day. People are selfish and simple.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We’re not going to be able to get to the point where people can benefit from being racist until we have a critical mass of people that are willing to suffer. Like you don’t need everyone, you don’t need the like 50% plus one to be willing to suffer for it. We do need a much bigger movement that can sustain and grow to a level where you can start to get, where it can start to actually, socially reward its participants more. We have to make racism fun. We have to make it engaging.</p>
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<p>And that’s part of what we’re trying to do with the organisation. Like one of the ambitions is to have a network of gyms and pubs that we control across all Australian cities where young White people can hang out and have community and enjoy themselves and throw parties and throw events constantly that are fun to attend for our people so that they can have a communal and social basis to participate in the movement. Make the movement fun, make the movement engaging, give them something to be in the movement and then they’re going to actually stay in the movement, participate in the movement.</p>
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<p>And then on a political level what we’re going to put forward is a whole series of policies that are going to materially make your life a lot better. And the current system is making your life a hell of a lot worse. And it’s only going to get worse and worse! And people are happy to go along with the status quo while there’s a reasonable amount of prosperity and comfort.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[53:09]</span></p>
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<p>But in 10 years time, you think it’s bad now, it’s not really that bad yet. Wait, in 10, 15 years time it’s going to get really bad! People are going to be more and more open minded to a more radical politics and a more radical solution. Also racism is the only thing that’s actually funny anymore. You know, they used to be able to control the population through really good propaganda.</p>
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<p>Back in the 80s, the 90s, the quality of Hollywood movies was so high. The quality of, just ZOG slop, music, television, etc., was actually quite high. And so you could just kind of like turn your brain off and just get like sucked into The Matrix of Bread and Circuses so much more easily. The prevailing culture was so much more enjoyable to kind of lose yourself in. It’s no longer the case. They can’t produce good films anymore, they can’t produce good music anymore. They don’t have the same cultural cache or gravitas that they once did.</p>
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<p>So the ability to kind of prop up the prevailing like Leftist morality is diminishing. Whilst at the same time if we have the fortitude and we have the ambition and the creativity, we have the ability to create a counterculture that can be quite fun and engaging for the younger generation of Whites who are increasingly disaffected and alienated. I do believe there’s a pathway there to making nationalism fun, to making nationalism enjoyable to make, to activating, to making nationalism amenable to people who have selfish rather than simply selfless, romantic reasons to embrace it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. I sometimes fear becoming an entertainer, though. I sometimes worry that the content I’m making, the effort that I’m making politically, may just be consumed as entertainment by people sitting on their asses scrolling. They might find it amusing and funny, but then they’re just going to scroll to the next thing and it’s just another 15 to 25 second moment in their lives that they feel amused by. And that’s the only purpose that I’m serving in the lives of ordinary people. That’s very cynical of course. There’s probably greater psychological impacts the content has on people, and that’s why we make it, that’s why we put this sort of stuff out there.</p>
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<p>But look, I’m especially cranky because I’ve got this eye infection and my whole eye socket’s just throbbing. It’s very painful. So I’m kind of being a cynic tonight. I’m playing devil’s advocate a little bit, so don’t mind me. I’m doing my best not to crack the shits, but Anzac Day tomorrow, we got the Dawn Service in the morning. This is a very significant day for Australians. It’s very special. It’s really helps, or how should I say it, underpins how important ancestral worship is to us. And by us, I don’t just mean Australians, but every member of our race around the world that is related to us in any way, shape or form. That’s if you pay attention.</p>
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<p>And Tom Sewell was telling me this today, he’s been telling me for a while, ancestral worship, veneration of the ancestors is kind of integral to our traditions as a people. Whatever country you go to that is a majority White, there is a great deal of respect, admiration and even worship of the ancestors that were the precondition for our existence. Now we are here because of them. And on Anzac Day this year, the message I’d like people to take away, or the feeling I’d like people to experience, is how little your life actually means, is how small your life is in the grand scheme of things.</p>
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<p>The fact that we are mortals and we have to die in quite a short time, but that through our deeds and what we choose to believe in our national community, our race can live forever.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s the essence of what we’re doing on Anzac Day, when we appreciate the sacrifices that have been made for us in order for us to be here now. Right. We are respecting, venerating, glorifying all of our ancestors that made the greatest sacrifice that serves as the precondition for our presence here now. That’s what Anzac Day means to me.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, absolutely! And ancestor veneration is basically the ancient religion of the Aryans. You know, the ancient Aryans, they practised in different ways, but they fundamentally practised a whole series of rites and rituals venerating their previous ancestors. They had kind of Patriarchal, patrilineal cults and the development of the pantheon of pagan gods kind of spun out of ancestor worship as its foundation. So it’s actually kind of an organic form of our native spirituality of our distant ancestors.</p>
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<p>And when you think about the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne, which is an incredible building that shrine looks kind of like a pagan temple. It has Christian elements in it, but it looks like a pagan temple, you could say. It looks like something out of like ancient Greece or something. And that temple, which is what it is, was built to venerate the ancestors at. Literally it’s called the Shrine of Remembrance by crowdfunding of the veterans of the First World War.</p>
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<p>So the Anzacs literally Pooled their cash together and built that. It wasn’t built by the government, it was very carefully designed. And that’s where I’m going to be tomorrow, venerating the ancestors. When that was opened in the early 1930s, over 300,000 people attended!</p>
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<p>Now, let me look up. What was the population of Melbourne? I don’t know exactly what was the population of Melbourne?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[59:26]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Only about a million. Less than a million.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. In 1932. Let’s have a look.</p>
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<p>1932, yeah. It was a bit less than a million. 950,000. So it’s around a million people. So 300,000 people showed up to the opening of the shrine.</p>
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<p>So that’s like three out of every ten Melburnians showing up, basically.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Well, they all. I reckon they all had a personal investment in it because the that wasn’t built by the taxpayer, by the government. It was crowdfunded the funds necessary to build the shrine by RSL, I think. And so everyone who attended those 300,000 people were probably all investors. They probably all put money in for it to be built. So it literally is a structure of the people. Like, this is not something the government built, this is something the people put together themselves.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but not just that it’s such an impressive building. It’s such a powerful, potent building. It shows. I mean, a lot of people would have had family members that fought. Almost everyone would have had family members that fought in World War I. A lot of people would have had family members that died in World War I so obviously it was a big deal to them for those reasons. But the big Union Jacks, I’ve seen the picture they have in underneath the shrine of like, the first. I don’t know if it was Remembrance Day or what, the first kind of big kind of opening, ceremonial opening of the shrine. It was a big event, and it was about venerating those who had given their blood for the Empire. That’s how people used to think back then. It was the biggest deal. Nothing was a bigger deal than that.</p>
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<p>And that was when we had a country that had a robust White Australia Policy. That was when we had a country that was a real country because those were people that were conscious of their mortality, conscious of the fact that anything you have in this world you have to fight for that. Blood is what binds us and that the blood of sacrifice is what makes possible everything that we have. That was the people that understood that. And the people that were conscious of the greatness of our race that had been achieved through many, many victories, many, many glories in battle.</p>
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<p>And that’s how a great people think. That’s how a noble people think. Now, who thinks like that now? You know, Anzac Day, when I went last year to the shrine, you know, half the faces there were like, Asian tourists and stuff. And there was like this lame speech about how multicultural the army is now and all the women that get to serve in the army now and how great and how diverse it is and how wonderful that is. And all this bullshit from, like, women in pantsuits that don’t have the first idea what the fuck they’re talking about. It’s fucking disgusting and disgraceful! That’s what it’s become. It’s a farce!</p>
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<p>So if you go tomorrow, have that content in your heart for these scumbags as well that are up there. You’re standing there for your ancestors, but you’re not there for them. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t go. Some people don’t go to these things because they’re like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh the politicians and everything get up there and sell this cucked shit!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then you see like a bunch of pajeet army cadets marching around or something. And you’re not there for them, you’re there for the ancestors. They’re there watching down, looking at us. That’s why you’re there. So contempt for the scum that rule over us now and the desecration of their sacrifice. But you got to stay true to what it was. When we win, Anzac Day is going to be like it used to be again. The people will be inspired again.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, dwindling numbers, dwindling concern. But one thing you’ll notice, the Dawn Service. At your local Dawn Service, there’ll be a lot of White faces, there won’t be too many immigrant faces because the Indians are not going to get out of bed at 5 o’clock in the morning, the fucking Chinese are not going to get out of bed at 5 o’clock in the morning, etc., to come down and venerate our ancestors because it’s our ancestors, not theirs. And they’ll try and say things like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, the Anzacs were a multicultural fighting force because there were like five Chinese guys that went to Gallipoli or something!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s fucking bullshit! Those were White men fighting for a White Australia. End of!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I’d like to see any Welcome to Country or whatever bullshit they try to come up with at the ceremonies shouted down personally, you know. Legally, of course, but you have the right to protest. If you’re at one of these ceremonies, you have the rights to voice your protest if you’re not happy with what’s being said by the official bureaucrats on the microphones. This is still your country, you still have a say. So don’t be scared to make your voice heard tomorrow morning. If they try to pull any bullshit!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:04:26]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Old mate in the chat said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If there’s any abo shit at the one I go to, I’m not sure how I’ll react. Like, I mean, marching up to the mic and going off about it! I’ll boo at least! Every year I feel it get more tense.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, well, if there’s a welcome country, Welcome to Country tomorrow and whatever service you’re at, boo that fucking shit! And hopefully the people around you start booing.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> When you take a few mates. If you go with a few people and they agree to sort of echo your sentiments, you know, it can catch on quite quickly. I think I keep cutting out too. Like, sorry, if I’m cutting out my WiFi signals a little bit off.</p>
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<p>But like I said the if the feeling is there, it should be contagious amongst other people too. I wouldn’t expect too much of ordinary folks because like I said, there have been conditioned by the fear of consequence for voicing any protest against the official social policy of the government and the bureaucracy. But I don’t know, the thing about regular people is they’re fickle, and if they feel enough people are doing something then they’ll join in with it, whatever it is. So, you know. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Exactly.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> That’s just some advice.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Human beings are herd animals. They go along with what everyone around them is doing.</p>
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<p>And so in the same way that it seems like everyone around you is a cuck, if there are enough nationalists, if there are enough Nazis or whatever, they would be a Nazi, there would be whatever is around them.</p>
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<p>And so that’s what our political mission is like giving people the licence to express their instincts. Like the instincts are still in there. But few people have the balls, have the self consciousness to move first. We are the first movers. We are the ones that, we are the trailblazers.</p>
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<p>And then eventually, if enough follow in our wake and we build enough momentum, then we will give the people at large the confidence to finally express what they really feel inside. That has been repressed for decades. And that’s what the mission is, that’s what we’re doing, that’s the objective. But is there anything else you wanted to say about Anzac Day, Blair?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Nah. Look, I’m in a lot of pain, so I’m gonna just let you finish up. If you don’t know if you’re tuning in late. I’ve got this like brutal eye infection. Don’t know how it happened. It’s in the eyelid. It’s cellulitis, but only in the eyelid. It’s not actually in the eye socket, which means I won’t lose my vision, but I need to take antibiotics to kill it because it could spread to the eye socket and if it does, that’s bad for me. But I’m just sitting here in a very bad mood and experiencing a lot of pain.</p>
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<p>So I’m gonna go.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Listen, you can’t, can you react at least to Matt Trihey his, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, that’s gonna cheer me up!</p>
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<p>I just saw a video of that late. So Matt Trihey is leader of, I think it’s called the National Workers Alliance. He’s been very aggressive and very, very energetic for the last, I’d say 12 to 18 months. Hosting meetings, doing protests. The guy is a true patriot! It’s good to see a real Aussie patriot, salt of the earth, working class builder. Pretty sure he’s a builder too. And he’s out there on the front lines doing what needs to be done. And where was he was at some sort of Teals meeting, wasn’t he? Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> So the electorate of Kooyong which is one of the more affluent parts of Melbourne where Toorak and Glen Iris and suburbs like this are located within. Traditionally it’s always been a Liberal seat because it’s a more affluent area. But the last election they voted in a Teal independent by the name of Monique Ryan. And the so-called Teals are a disgusting blend of like the social policies of the Greens mixed with the economic policies of the Liberals.</p>
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<p>Basically like the most disgusting all mixed together into the most <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> and appeals to rich White women who watch the ABC religiously. It’s like Hillary Clinton basically at the last election in <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> Anyway she had some meeting and they were talking about why we need to give more money to the ABC or some fucking bullshit like that so we can have more communist propaganda more anti-White tax funded communist propaganda pumped out into all these Boomer White women who are the only ones that even fucking <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear].<span style="color: #333333;"> And he confronted them that mass immigration is causing, is exposing our people to increases in crime, rapes, burglaries, violence etc. And then all the Boomer White women at the meeting had a hysterical reaction. One of them even started shrieking. One of these old ladies punched him in the face! [chuckling] But it was on Channel Nine news tonight actually. He made the news so I think he did this stunt. Maybe it was yesterday and then the video went out today. The Noticer posted it. I shared it on Telegram if you want to watch it.</span></span></p>
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<p>But I’m going to play. I haven’t actually seen the clip. I want to see how the news covered it. So it made the news. Let’s see how the news covered it because it’s a pretty interesting story. We’ll watch the news and if they spin it really hard I’ll play the original clip.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Channel 9 news clip]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Reporter]</span> It was meant to be a peaceful community chat until far-Right agitated Matt Trihey loudly barged in and was punched in the face by a woman in the audience.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Dr. Ryan]</span> Fortunately it didn’t really connect. She was much smaller than he was quite a big man.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Reporter]</span> Teal MP Monique Ryan and Labor candidate Clive Crosby shocked by what happened. Dr. Ryan consoled the woman after the incident.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Dr. Ryan]</span> She was sorry that she’d lost control in the way that she did. But she found the whole thing very distressing.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Reporter]</span> Trihey is the leader of the National Workers Alliance. He denies he’s a Neo Nazi, but was once a member of Thomas Sewell’s White nationalist group, the Lads Society.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Rachel Dexter]</span> This individual has been part of groups that are run by neo-Nazis, well publicised Neo Nazis.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Reporter]</span> Tensions have flared across the campaign in the past, 24 hours. Two men charged over separate violent incidents in Sydney.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[PM Albanese]</span> There’s no place for violence in our political system. We’re a democracy. It’s important that people engage in a respectful way. That includes people who are candidates, but it includes everyone.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Dr. Ryan]</span> I hope that after this election campaign things will cool down, the temperature will drop a bit, we’ll be able to get back to normal.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Reporter]</span> Whether those inflaming tensions listen is up for debate. Brett McLeod, Nine News.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:11:32]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Do me a favour. Hang on.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I don’t know what just happened to Blair there, but notice how they basically blamed him for some lady punching him in the face. They’re like:</p>
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<p>And it’s apparently his fault. They’re victim blaming. Imagine if he went in there and punched someone in the face. It’d be like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Far-Right, thug beats people up at a meeting!”</span></h3>
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<p>But if they hit him, &#8230; Now, Matt Trihey, by the way, was a professional MMA fighter. He was, he fought in, I don’t think he fought in the UFC, but he fought in, I think Pride. So I think an old lady punching him in the face doesn’t really bother him too much. He’s a pretty tough dude.</p>
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<p>But yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I mean, it’s just kind of ridiculous, the double standard:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well like we got to give this poor old lady a hug because she sperged out and punched Trihey in the face!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Isn’t that weird behaviour! How the aggressor, the person trying to punch someone, who cares if it’s an old lady, she still tried to punch the guy! She’s hugged. She’s hugged and treated like a victim while the actual victim of the assault is like continuously like pushed out of the building as though he’s the cause for concern.</p>
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<p>I mean, I realise she’s just an old lady and who cares that she punched someone? I don’t care! I’m sure Matt Trihey doesn’t care. It’s not like he’s at home with some ice on that shiner. He’d just be laughing about it. It’s just still very strange behaviour. You know, we’re told so often that it’s never okay to put your hands on anyone. It’s the you’re a dirty, horrible person if you even think about assaulting another human being!</p>
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<p>But then when some lady does it:</p>
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<p>That’s fucking weird, man! What? Obviously I don’t even know how to interpret it, actually. I can’t comment further than it’s just fucking weird!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. I can’t be bothered playing the original video. You can go find it on The Noticer. You could find it on my page. I think Tom shared it. I don’t know if you shared it. I think you shared it. So you can go watch it on Telegram or on Twitter.</p>
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<p>But yeah, like, literally, these women are shrieking. He goes in there. He’s calm. He just starts talking about crime statistics and immigration and asking for an answer.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> And that’s all he does. That’s pretty much all he does! All he does is list off crime stats about how many immigrants are actually committing crimes, how many immigrants are committing rape, how much rape has increased in certain states and regions in proportion to the increase in immigration. That’s all he does! All he does is list off facts. He just spits facts, and people lose their minds and are now physically attacking him. How insane is that? How retarded are people? How embarrassing it is to be a member of the same race as people like that? Like, do you ever feel like that, Joel? Do you ever feel like you’re born on the wrong planet or something? It’s like, what the fuck, what’s going on here? Who are these fucking cs?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Why are we letting retarded old ladies participate in politics? Like, shut up, grandma! You’re a retard! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Why do they even have to participate in politics? I mean, I don’t know. Are they bored? Maybe they feel like they’re making a difference or something.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They are bored. They’re sitting at home watching television all day, and then the news is talking about politics all the time, and they get all hyped up on it.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Imagine the story. Imagine the story. Oh, Gladys!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Ingesting so much propaganda. And then someone comes in and says something mean coded.</p>
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<p>And then they literally start shrieking. One of them was like, fucking shrieking like a banshee! Some old lady punches a man in the face! And they’re trying to drag him out, but he’s like, he’s a strong guy, so he’s just kind of like, whatever. But these old women are trying to drag him out. And then some random, like, soy Jack old dude is like:</p>
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<p>Like, just like doing this like weird outrage thing. It’s fucking pathetic! But the reaction on social media was funny. Everyone was kind of just taking the piss out of these retarded Boomers.</p>
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<p>But then like the news. The news is like, we know about how much bias they have because we play clips of them covering us all the time. You know, they just always frame things in such a ridiculous way.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:15:55]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> But I think it’s obvious some craze Leftist attack someone physically. The statement from the relevant statesman, and I think it was from actually Albanese, the Prime Minister himself in this particular instance, is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Violence from either side it won’t be tolerated!”</span></h3>
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<p>But then whenever something mean is said by someone on the far-Right, as they call it, the far-Right, well then, it’s always the far-Right that are targeted specifically. And like you’ve got to change laws to stop them offending people. Then you see some actual physical assault or violence and their response is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, both sides need to be careful with what they’re doing.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s so where her outburst was justified because her “<em>feelings</em>” got hurt.</p>
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<p>But then we get treated, we don’t commit violence, we hurt people’s feelings, therefore we’re the bad guy. And so like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Women can’t be responsible for the fact that they’re hysterical. It’s obviously the man’s fault because we made them upset. Because female emotions and feelings need to rule over rationality or any other kind of modicum of reasonable, consistent standards for behaviour, that goes out the window because an old lady got upset and started crying and therefore she’s the victim.”</span></h3>
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<p>And this is what we’re ruled by as a society. I was looking at this study the other day. There was a study that was done, a Meta analysis of basically all forms of literature in the English language. I think they got an AI to assess what’s the prevalence of words that describe rational thought and the prevalence of words that describe emotional predilections, and what’s the ratio. How rational or how emotional is the general language of everything published in the English language. And from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution up to the late 1960s, about 1970, it gets more and more and more rational through time to the point where it’s super majority rational. Then in 1970, after the second wave feminism and women are introduced into the workforce and academia and politics and so on, you get this complete cascade where now everything published in the English language is hyper emotional, more emotional than ever!</p>
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<p>And that’s what’s happened to our society writ large. We live in a society where emotions rule over reason. Well, that is a society that is going to become deeply dysfunctional. Because that’s the definition of immaturity. That’s the definition essentially of insanity!</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah. When “<em>hurt feelings</em>” are the inspiration for crackdown on free speech. Can’t say this, can’t raise your arm in the air.</p>
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<p>Basically, everything, every change legally, every social standard is built around not “<em>hurting people’s feelings</em>”. I can remember when I was in school, when I was in primary school, everything got banned. Everything the boys were doing got banned! And it got banned throughout my time in primary school. It’s like I was born in the exact right generation to see it all happen. First thing that got banned was Pokemon cards. And it happened on the day that I got my first ever deck on my birthday. I remember this like, I think I was in grade three and Mum bought me a deck of Pokemon cards. First time. I was excited to go to school with my new holographic nine tails and flex on all the boys because no one else had that. I think one other kid might have had it, but he was glorified for it.</p>
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<p>Anyway, the day I get there, there’s an announcement on the speakers that Pokemon cards have been causing too much conflict amongst the boys and they’re banned. They’re no longer allowed. And if any boys had Pokemon cards on them, they had to leave them in their school bags, take them home and never bring them back. Pokemon cards banned!</p>
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<p>So then we started playing Australian League football. We used the trees as goal posts. Three months later or so, that was banned! Because some kid got tackled and cried. And it was all banned by a female vice principal. The actual principal of the school was a man named Peter Williams, but he was never around. He was always absent. It seemed like the vice principal, some woman, I can’t remember her name, she was ruling the roost instead of him. She was the one banning everything. You know, we couldn’t play footy anymore, we couldn’t do Pokemon cards.</p>
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<p>So then we started doing marbles that got banned because someone threw a marble at someone and their parents got called and they were unhappy about it. So no more marbles! Then British Bulldogs in the Marble Pit because there was no more use for the Marble Pit now.</p>
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<p>So we just started playing British Bulldogs. But some kids shorts, school shorts, got torn a little bit when he got tackled and the parents, the mother called the school and bitched about it. And so that was banned!</p>
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<p>And I remember we were sitting around once at lunchtime primary school. By the time everything was banned, we were like grade six, the final year of primary school.</p>
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<p>And I said to the boys:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are we allowed to do? We can’t even do anything!”</span></h3>
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<p>We couldn’t even play brandy, throw a tennis ball at each other. And what is, what does Sewell call this? The gynocracy? I think he calls it the “<em>Gynocracy</em>”, where everything’s banned for the sake because someone might get hurt or it may upset someone, you’re not allowed to do it. No one’s allowed to have any sort of fun or do anything for the sake of saving feelings and someone might get hurt. So it’s not allowed.</p>
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<p>And I witnessed all that in primary school. I witnessed the birth of the gynocracy. And now the gynocracy is in politics, now it’s in Parliament and now it’s bearing down on us from that position, from the position of institutional leadership. And that’s what we suffer, my friends, we suffer the giantocracy! And how do we defeat it? How do we defeat the giantocracy? By just not caring and doing whatever we want. Because the gynocracy has gone so far, there’s not even a lot of capable police officers anymore.</p>
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<p>So it’s not like there’s any serious consequence waiting around the corner anyway. So I think that’s how you actually get around it. You literally just play whatever game you want to play, say whatever you want to say, make any gesture you want to make, believe what you want to believe, and so long as you’re not actually physically hurting anyone, who cares? Do what you want to do. I guess if enough people do that, then the gynocracy fails, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:22:21]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, that’s the origin story of an ancient myth in our people, the myth of Percival, or of Parsifal, if you’re a German, who was one of the knights of King Arthur’s knights. One of the knights of the Round Table, who was one of the only ones to actually attain the Holy Grail. And at the beginning, when he was a boy, he was raised in the forest by his mother, and his mother basically kept him away from civilisation because his father and his two older brothers, they went and became knights and they died in battle. And she was all he had left. And so she took him out to the Woods and raised him in the Woods and told him nothing of his of his older brothers and of his father to try and keep him safe. And he’s playing out in the forest one day and he comes across some of the Knights of the Round Table, some of King Arthur’s knights, and they tell him all about what it’s like to be a knight. And immediately he’s like:</p>
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<p>And he goes back and he says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mom, I’m going to go be a knight!”</span></h3>
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<p>And she has a mental breakdown:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, you can’t leave me. You must stay here where it’s safe!”</span></h3>
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<p>And eventually he wins the argument and she realises that there’s nothing that she can say to stop him. And she knits him a sweater to wear at all times and says:</p>
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<p>And then he leaves and she dies of a broken heart. And there’s a later time where he’s in a great battle where he has to take the sweater off, take off the comfort of the gynocracy, basically, in order to win!</p>
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<p>And that’s the beginning, that’s the origin story, is leaving behind security of the womb, the security of the kind of maternal sphere where everything is soft and all the threats are neutralised and everyone has to be nice to each other and sweet to each other and everyone is cared for and nurtured. In order to achieve your destiny, in order to become great, in order to become noble, you have to cast that off and go out. And go on adventures and fight and battle and so on, and find your way to the grail, to the meaning of it all, to be the hero.</p>
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<p>So that’s a <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> for a reason.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Don’t you think that men need to be able to compete? Men need an outlet for the energy that they have as men. They need to be able to Barter and trade and fight. They need to be able to play sport. They need to be able to compete! If they can’t for the sake of people not getting hurt or feelings not getting hurt, don’t you think that’s why you see such radical explosions of rage in society now? That’s why men are so angry, because they’ve got all this repressed energy.</p>
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<p>I mean, you hear stories about guys just snapping over what seems to be nothing, and you’ve got this domestic violence problem where a lot of the time it’s blamed on men, but really it’s just men are being pushed too far, or they’ve got so much repressed energy because there’s no way for them to actually express that basic competitive element, the desire to achieve something, the desire to build something, to work towards some greater projects. You know what I mean? Like there’s just kind of like no real outlet for a lot of men.</p>
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<p>And so I think that’s why you’ve got examples or scenarios in society where some guy is setting a car on fire with his whole family inside, or just losing his shit at seemingly nothing. But really it was 20 years of the gynocracy telling him he’s not allowed to do anything because he’s bad because he’s a man! I don’t know. It’s something to think about because you can’t just cancel everything men do and expect men to react in some sort of obedient, passive way.</p>
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<p>Obviously there’s going to be consequences for that. Men aren’t going to accept that. Men aren’t going to react well to that kind of system. I need to think more about this because the idea just came into my head then I’m so I’m not going to be able to articulate it as well as I’d like to.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Also, everything wrong with our society is downstream from fucking cucked men! Men who adapt their behaviour to make their girlfriend or wife happy. Which means avoiding risk taking, not spending time with the boys, but spending time with her in the security of the lounge suite, watching goy flicks, eating Uber Eats, or taking her to out shopping or something. That’s what she wants to be doing. She wants to be safe. Maybe if she’s a so-called tradition wife, she wants to go move to the countryside and have chickens and shit! And she doesn’t want you getting arrested, she doesn’t want you going to jail, she doesn’t want you getting into fights, she doesn’t want you dying, and like okay, fair enough.</p>
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<p>But ultimately that’s your destiny if you’re a political revolutionary, that’s your destiny. If you’re a true, if you’re a warrior, if you’re a man of nobility, a man of strength, you want to go and solve your own problems with your own strength. You don’t want to retreat to safety. That’s the pathway of the coward.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> I still don’t see it as either, or, though. I don’t see it as either, or. Like you should be able to spend time with women and fight for what you believe in. You shouldn’t have to choose. Why should you have to fucking choose?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I mean you don’t have to choose because women might try and gaslight you and pressure you, but at the end of the day if you just do what you want, they’ll just accept it. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Like realistically.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> It’s nice to make a woman happy. That’s also nice to fight for what you believe in. Like I get reward chemicals from doing both of those things. So I’d like to not in order to do the other. I don’t think it needs to be so two dimensional.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> No, I’m not suggesting that it is but ultimately like there’s going to be times where you have to choose one or the other and if you just always choose the cucked safe wife guy option, your life will pass by and you will have been domesticated. And you will not have actually expressed your virility and truly stood for anything. And you will become pacified and you will become neutralised and then you’ll die.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Have you seen those dads that actually admit that they’ve been domesticated in an extreme way? And they make a joke out of, they’re like:</p>
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<p>And they like joke about it. What’s with that? That’s nothing to be proud of, bro! It’s not funny at all! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know, if your dad’s like that, if you know someone like that, tell them to wake up to themselves. You know, it’s not funny to not have any sort of sway over your domestic situation. To have no freedom.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s what the weak do they do self depreciating jokes as a form of allaying their anxieties be like:</p>
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<p>I was like:</p>
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<p>Anyway, let’s do the Superchats and let’s. And let’s end the fucking stream! What do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Yeah, well, I was gonna shuffle off anyway because my eye hurts so much.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Just hang out for five minutes and we’ll be done.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> All right.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Jake 1219 said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Coming back to what Joel was saying, Winston, with the help of the British political (Winston Churchill), with the help of the British political establishment and the aristocratic establishment’s old money sold the West out for communism. 100%, right?”</span></h3>
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<p>I wouldn’t say communism. I’d say jewish interests.</p>
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<p>But yeah, sure, we talked about that before. There was a show we did on World War II revisionism last year that I thought was pretty good. You can go back and watch that.</p>
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<p>Home of the Brave said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“‘Neo-Nazi boss’ Thomas Sewell, (as in quotation marks). The way the media covered your registering as a political party couldn’t have gone better. Can’t wait to see how you guys roll it all out. Could be the blueprint for us all.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, yeah, it’s nice to get the promotion and it was funny. But yeah, it’s gonna be a process. It’s not happening tomorrow. The election is coming up obviously in a week. The next show is going to be about the election. I’m going to do other streams this week about the election and we’re going to have some other, we’ve got some other things planned for election week. We’re going to get Anzac Day over and done with first and then we’re going to focus on that.</p>
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<p>But I will say it is funny how the Trumpet of Spastics party, how all of a sudden started copying half baked versions of our talking points and ideas in the last <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> couple weeks and it could help sink the Liberal Party. So it’s pretty funny!</p>
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<p>And as I said on Telegram:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Clive, if you just called me up three months ago and gave me one of like one of the $90 million you’ve already wasted on this failed election campaign, I could have helped you run it much better and you would have got more votes.”</span></h3>
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<p>But instead of just stealing my ideas with no credit in a half assed way in the second last week of the election campaign. So you missed the boat on that one. Jake1219 also said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Question for both. 30% of Australia’s population were born overseas. How do you go about working jobs, operating current society socially, cordially with so many migrants in your face?”</span></h3>
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<p>I don’t personally. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> With great difficulty and a great amount of selectivity! And not without the urge to headbutt people on the regular. So it’s frustrating! It is, yeah. But when running your own business like I do, you can be selective especially because it’s like word of mouth through people who know people in an area where most people are Aussies, it’s not so bad.</p>
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<p>But yeah, I could imagine it depends on the field in which you’re working. I know construction is getting pretty bad and you know, I’d probably stay right away from tech. The closer you are to the city, the worse it’s going to be. There’s various factors to consider. But the closer to the city you are, the more patience you’re going to need. I don’t have the patience man to work around these illustrious skilled labourers from overseas.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Fellow Comrade said:</p>
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<p>Yeah, cheers.</p>
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<p><strong>Blair Cottrell:</strong> Did you see we had $20 from the Comfy Friend who <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Gerard Rennick White power!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well if you’re in Queensland, give Gerard Rennick a vote. I hope he gets back into the Senate. He did call out the jews, the Mossad and so on.</p>
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<p>And I think he’s a good man. You know he’s not everything that we would want, but he’s the best of the bunch. So I hope that he gets re-elected And I like him. I think he’s an all right guy. And a few our guys are working in his campaign team so respect to the grind. And yeah, obviously hail Comfy Friend, friend of the show. I think that’s all the Superchats. Let me check. I think that’s all the Superchats for this evening.</p>
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<p>So yeah, everyone up early tomorrow for Anzac Day. And yeah, make sure you’re down there. And be there for the ancestors. Venerate tomorrow. Treat tomorrow like a religious holiday. That’s what it is, a day to commemorate our national religion of the ancestors who gave blood for our people. That’s what it’s about. And hail White Australia and hail the Anzacs. Why Power! Fellow Comrades said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“One more Superchat for fun.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well thanks dude and we’ll end it there. See you next time.</p>
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<p>Supporter<br />
6 hours ago<br />
same thing the Americans in WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam etc fought for&#8230;.. Nothing Their lives were wasted<br />
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TheBeardedIndian<br />
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Top comment. These war memorial events should not be a celebration of sacrifice, they should be annual reminders of not being duped again into dying for no good reason. Celebrating these wars furthers the Jewish plan for Christians to slaughter each other.<br />
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<p>ThigASteach<br />
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Great conversation. Appreciate you guys. #PeaceAndRespect<br />
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<p>katana17<br />
12 hours ago<br />
[Joel Davis &#8211; So Much Has Happened, But We&#8217;re Only Just Getting Started &#8211; Apr 11, 2025 &#8211; Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/04/12/joel-davis-so-much-has-happened-but-were-only-just-getting-started-apr-11-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream video episode Aussie nationalist activists Tom Sewell and Blair Cottrell have a discussion, followed by a separate Blair Cottrell and Joel Davis discussion. The two separate discussion are a result of severe and unreasonable bail conditions imposed on Tom and Joel as a result of police and court harrassment.<br />
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5 hours ago<br />
And the British and Irish.<br />
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<p>TheShowgun<br />
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prayin for your well health Blair!! although, Blair with an eyepatch would go hard af..<br />
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<p>BlueNorth88<br />
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Blair&#8217;s missus can really bang<br />
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<p>GlobalistJuice<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Joel would be an awesome teacher of history in Australia&#8217;s schools &#8211; his storytelling is sublime, a flowing voice that is detail engaging with appropriate inflection while retaining a smooth masculine tone that is easy-on-the-ears.<br />
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<p>evon626<br />
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Blair said something like &#8220;The youth are more radical because they&#8217;re desensitized,&#8221; not because they&#8217;re more intellectually curious and open. Sounds correct. I&#8217;ll take it though. The masses are a force multiplier for whoever can move them. We just need to be the coolest thing out there and the mindless kids will follow.<br />
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<p>evon626<br />
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Blair is wondering if he&#8217;s a &#8220;mere&#8221; entertainer. He is, but shows like this are crucial to making these concepts cool and normalizing them. So he plays a crucial role in allowing us to eventually instrumentalize the normie to our ends (and for their benefit).<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Why World War II Started</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Wed, Jun 15, 1994</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this audio recording Ernst Zundel gives a brief “laymans” summary of why WW2 started. Key points:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Introduction to Voice of Freedom broadcast, hosted by Ernst Zundel</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:30] Overview of Germany’s situation after World War I, including reparations and hyperinflation:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Germany was condemned to pay reparations, huge amounts of reparations which were to only run out in the year 1988.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[3:30] Rise of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party through democratic means</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[5:00] International boycott called against Germany shortly after Hitler came to power</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[6:30] Germany’s economic crisis and rumours of potential invasions by France or Poland</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[8:00] Reichstag fire and Hitler’s implementation of emergency measures:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Hitler used this as his means of introducing draconian repressive measures inside Germany ”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[10:00] Comparison to Canada’s use of the War Measures Act in 1970</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[12:00] Hitler’s governance and Germany’s economic recovery in the 1930s:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Hitler made Germany prosper. He made the trains run on time.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[14:30] Hitler’s opposition to Communism and Bolshevism:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Adolf Hitler was a strong opponent of Marxism. He considered it almost like an evil religion.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[16:30] Germany’s actions leading up to World War II, including the invasion of Poland</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[18:00] Hitler’s pre-emptive strike against the Soviet Union:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Hitler knew that he was not strong enough to just merely defend himself against Russia.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[20:00] Comparison of Hitler’s tactics to Israel’s actions in the 1967 Six-Day War</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:00] Germany’s initial success against the Soviet Union and subsequent challenges</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[24:00] European volunteers fighting alongside German forces:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Europe’s men, we have to remember that the Hungarians, the Slovakians, the many Polish volunteers, Ukrainian volunteers, Danish, Dutch volunteers&#8230;”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[26:00] Framing of Germany’s actions as defending Europe against Bolshevism:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“The Germans defended Europe and European style civilisation against Soviet Bolshevism.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Closing remarks.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Ernst Zundel:</strong> You are listening to Another Voice of Freedom broadcast financed through the free will donations of listeners like yourself. I’m Ernst Zundel, your host and moderator. The opinions expressed by our guests or in editorials and stories are always those of the originators. We believe that personal opinions freely expressed are not a danger to any democratic society. We don’t have to agree with any or all of the opinions expressed by others. We owe it to ourselves, however, to listen, to evaluate, and to possibly learn something new or different in the process. You may reach us at 206 Carlton Street Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5A 2L1. Telephone 1492-29850 <span style="color: #008000;">[Note: All contact details out of date].</span></p>
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<p>And now we have another interesting program for you.</p>
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<p>I’m Ernst Zundel with Another Voice of Freedom program. A number of our listeners from around the country, and some even as far away as Europe, have contacted us about our recent programs relating to D-Day and the period in Europe after D-Day, and some of our revisionist viewpoints that we hold on this topic. Well, some of them complained that I, in my programs had not spelled out in more detail what the Second World War was all about and how it came about.</p>
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<p>So let me try to give it a layman’s overview. Nothing academic, just a layman’s overview. The Germans in the First World War were defeated by a coalition of forces, and the German government under the Weimar Republic was asked to sign a treaty in Versailles. And one of the stipulations of that treaty was that the Germans had to declare themselves solely responsible for the First World War.</p>
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<p>And of course, with the loss of Germany’s territories in the east, coupled with this slap in the face for the entire German nation, who knew that they had not been solely responsible for this tragedy, which was the First World War. This meant there was a fertile soil for nationalists, or even extreme nationalists to agitate against the existing order of things.</p>
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<p>Germany, you must understand, was under some form of Allied tutelage, was under military occupation in some regions. Germany was condemned to pay reparations, huge amounts of reparations which were to only run out in the year 1988! I want to repeat that these massive billions of dollars worth of gold marks of reparations the Germans were to pay to the Allies, were to be running till the year 1988. That was reparations the Germans had to pay for the First World War.</p>
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<p>The reason why I’m stressing that is because, of course, it bankrupted the German nation, led to hyperinflation where people were paid three times a day, mornings, noon and night, because the money devalued between breakfast and lunch, sometimes by millions of marks!</p>
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<p>And so when men were receiving their paycheck, they didn’t go and bring a wallet at the end of the week, they usually brought a basket.</p>
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<p>And finally, some of the store and shop owners paid their people every single evening, because hyperinflation was running away with the currency in Germany.</p>
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<p>My own mother, a very simple young girl, said that she worked for a whole month and at the end of the month, all she could buy with her earnings for that month in 1923, was a stamp with which to send a postcard to her parents. That is what the situation was!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In that situation, Adolf Hitler, a very gifted young orator in Germany, started his struggle for power. And he struggled against those who had signed this shameful treaty in Versailles and against those who had imposed it on Germany. And he found increasing resonance amongst the German population. At first the working people, finally an ever increasing number amongst Germany’s students, then amongst the more middle classes, and finally even amongst the intelligentsia, meaning Professors, doctors, dentists, lawyers and so on.</p>
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<p>Then Adolf Hitler democratically moved into the Reichstag, and because his party was the party that had Garnered most votes in a coalition with other nationalist forces, finally became the government of Germany in 1933, on 30 January.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>While Hitler was struggling for power, he had said over and over in thousands of speeches and talks and articles in his party newspaper and so on, and many of his Members of Parliament, the Reichstag at that time said to the German population:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Understand that a vote for National Socialism does not mean a change of government in Germany.”</span></h3>
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<p>In other words, it’s not a change of administration. It’s not the Democrats being replaced by the Republicans, or in the Canadian context, the Liberals replacing the Conservatives. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What you are doing with this election, it is a plebiscite on which way Germany is going to go.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In other words, there are going to be some fundamental changes in German society. And he had outlined them to the German population quite openly and quite freely, what he thought Germany should look like in the 1930s. The Germans were not sucked into or conned into voting for yet another politician who had made all kinds of promises that he wasn’t going to keep.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My own mother and my own father, who had been unemployed for four years by the time Adolf Hitler finally did come to power, said that they had tried the Conservatives, they had voted for the Catholic Party, the Christian Center Party, they had even voted for the Social Democratic Party. Other Germans, disgusted by all this party wrangling voted for the Communist Party.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there was a polarization of political opinion and political action and the political spectrum in Germany in the 1930s between the extreme Left and, yes, the extreme nationalist Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hitler represented the Right, the forces of the Right, and together with a number of smaller parties, finally did form the government, as I said. And he was hardly in power when an international boycott was called against Germany.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the reason why I’m mentioning this is because in the next few programs, we are going to take a look exactly at what happened in “<em>Nazi Germany</em>”, the way the popular press calls it, or National Socialist Germany, in Hitler’s Germany after he came to power.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[07:46]</span></p>
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<p>Let me just say to you that in studying this period of time, I found that Germany was in a terribly shocking state! And that, for instance, in the state of Thuringia, which is in the east, the budget for social welfare was two thirds of the state’s budget was eaten up by social welfare. Two thirds. You can imagine, that means so many people were unemployed, were on the dole, were half employed and so on. A state cannot function with this kind of budget. And so a crisis was looming large in Germany.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also, the foreign currency reserves of Germany had gone down to such a level that when the German economics minister mentioned this to the new government, Hitler was alarmed. It was down to some 480 million marks, which, for a trading nation like Germany that depended on financing exports and so on, it was virtually the death knell. Germany was, to all intents and purposes, bankrupt!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How to get out of this situation was what dominated the mind of the new government. And during this particular time, there were rumors around the world that they were going to be preventive wars. There was going to be an invasion of Germany either by France or by Poland or by both governments.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, at the time, these two countries were, in a European context, superpowers. You must understand that the Treaty of Versailles condemned the German government to a force of professional soldiers of 100,000 people, just 100,000 men! That meant the entire German armed forces could fit into the Berlin soccer stadium.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, picture that. The Berlin soccer stadium. The only weapons that they had were machine guns. When they were practicing with tanks, they were bicycles with cardboard cutouts made to look like tanks. Because Germany was the only totally disarmed country and it was forced to disarm under the Treaty of Versailles. Hitler knew all this. In other words, he was in absolutely no position to threaten anybody! Others were threatening his government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And suddenly there were these news from North America that the jewish community in North America was Calling for an international boycott against Germany! There was a man called Samuel Untermeyer, who had gone to Amsterdam for a conference. And when he returned to the United States, he gave a nationally broadcast radio program in which he called for a holy war against Germany, a national boycott.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And naturally, Hitler’s ambassadors and consular officials reported that back to Germany. So did the media. Hitler was alarmed! Here was the threat of military invasion, economic strangulation. Inside Germany the communists were restive. And so Hitler did what other German Chancellors had done before him, perfectly Democratic measure to call out some kind of an Emergency Measures Act. In Canada, we would call it the War Measures Act.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Into this period fell a fire that was started by apparently a communist, or a man with communist leadings called Van der Lubbe, who tried to burn down the Reichstag, meaning the German Parliament. Apparently as some kind of a note to other Leftists, to start simultaneously all over Germany similar activities and to try to have an overthrow of the German government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I know that in Allied propaganda, Hermann Goering is supposedly himself having carried a canister of gasoline through some secret tunnels into the Reichstag, and he’s supposed to have had a kind of a hand in burning down the Reichstag. Well, perfectly independent people and historical commissions and inquiries by independent historians during, before, during and after the war have come to the conclusion that, in effect, the Nazis did not torch the Reichstag! That it was a canard put out by communist and Leftist propaganda.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hitler used this as his means of introducing draconian repressive measures inside Germany, outlawing political parties, political movements, arrest without habeas corpus and so on. It was a typical emergency measure act!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I want you immediately to understand this is not to excuse Adolf Hitler and him breaking the civil rights of Germans. I am just trying to explain to you that this is nothing new in European history, certainly absolutely nothing new of the period. And in Canada, as late as 1972, we had what they called “<em>the invoking of the War Measures Act</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Actually, it was earlier still, during the FLQ crisis, the Front des Liberation Qui Pequoi, which was a Leftist group that was blowing up mailboxes, the stock market building and so on. And the Canadian government, in perfect peacetime, prosperous, not surrounded by enemies that were trying to invade our country here, imposed a War Measures Act. I lived there during the time in Quebec, and I can assure you here is what happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hundreds, many, many, many hundreds of French-Canadian activists who had been politically vocal in wanting to have separation between Quebec and the rest of the country were rounded up at night. 4:00, 5:00, 3:00 o’clock in the morning. And they were arrested without any legal representation. They were put into sports arenas, meaning concentrated into the same kind of area that Hitler would take his dissidents and so on in the early 30s.</p>
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<p>They were kept in there. Some of them were kept in jails in Canada without having the rights that we normally have to be brought before a judge speedily and so on, because the War Measures act had declared a national emergency, saying that there was imminent danger to the survival of Canada as a society and as a state. And then your civil rights went out the window.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that’s exactly what happened to Germans in the Hitler era, as soon as Adolf Hitler came to power, because there was this perceived threat to the German state, the overthrow of the German government. And Hitler invoked what he called the Enabling Act, where he spelled out what his moves were going to be.</p>
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<p>And so Germany, that moment, became somewhat of a dictatorship. True, there were elections and there were plebiscites later on, but ultimately, Hitler governed Germany under this kind of draconian enabling legislation, which allowed him to forbid parties and movements and seize newspapers, outlaw publishing houses and stuff like this, very much the way the West German state has been doing in the last six to seven months.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[15:26]</span></p>
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<p>And again, Germany has no threat of invasion. Germany has no threat that the state is going to be overthrown. Yet the ruling clique in power in Germany says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we have got political dissidents here that are getting entirely too testy. They are having these big marches of 4, 5, 10,000 people. Our police forces can no longer control them, meaning they cannot cow them into silence. And even 10,000 policemen last fall could not prevent a march in honor of Rudolf Hess, for instance. And so therefore, we are going to pass this draconian legislation.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which they tried to do recently on the 20th of June with their what they call crime bill. But the German Parliament, at that time, the Upper House, at least voted down this draconian law.</p>
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<p>Well, in Hitler’s Germany they did not, because National Socialism at that time, as I said, had the superior numbers. And so Germany began to rebuild under those measures with limited freedoms, restricted freedom of expression. And Hitler managed by all kinds of means, which we are going to cover in future programs, to prevent the invasion by France and by Poland, to prevent the boycott from crippling and destroying the German economy. And Adolf Hitler and his government went on and governed Germany in peace time for another six years.</p>
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<p>And by the year 1936, we are able already to absorb all the millions and millions of unemployed in Germany and the surrounding countries. Two million people worked as guest workers in Germany in 1937 and 38, at a time when the rest of Europe was, and America, may I say, and Canada was still very much suffering under a depression!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hitler’s Germany was like a beautifully tended garden surrounded by a bunch of gardens full of weeds.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And of course, the envy of the people who tilled the gardens, meaning the governments of the particular day, was rife everywhere! Not the people. For instance, Hitler had this program where he was going to <span style="color: #008000;">[actually did]</span> send hard working miners and farmers and so on these cruise ships to distant places in North Africa, in Egypt, in Greece or in Norway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was such a hit with the working people of Europe that ordinary people could actually go on cruises that England forbade the landing of these German cruise ships in British ports! Because rather than giving their own working people such a break, they found it much easier just to restrict German ships from landing and not getting British workers envious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I’m saying to you is Hitler made Germany prosper! He made the trains run on time. Things hummed in Germany. Germany broke all kinds of records on the ground, in the air, with cars, with planes. National Socialist Germany in peacetime was a progressive, thriving country. And the people that lived there during that particular time apparently kind of allowed this restricted freedom that they couldn’t have different opinions and so on. They traded social security, financial security, bread and butter stuff over freedom.</p>
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<p>It has always troubled me that that’s the way it was, but that’s the way it was. I personally am far more of a believer in individualism and freedom than that particular generation. But the Germans, after all, if the majority does rule by their majority, and by constantly reaffirming Hitler in power and his government decided that was the way they were perfectly willing to live, who am I to say in 1994 that they didn’t have the right to do that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, why did the war break out? Because apparently Hitler was a sworn enemy of Marxism, Communism, then called Bolshevism. And Europe had these Bolshevik uprisings, especially in Hungary, Romania. Also in the east, especially in Russia, where a lot of blood was spilled, where hundreds of thousands, millions we know today, tens of millions of people were butchered in the most gruesome way, worked to death in the Gulag, worked to death while building canals through mosquito infested swamps and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Today, now that the archives are open and the mass graves are being found in the Crimea and in the Ukraine and in Russia proper. Mass graves that hold 200, 240, 300,000 people and we have only just scratched the surface.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the Bolsheviks who were in the east, armed to the teeth, had always said that they believed in world revolution and they were appealing to the workers around the world in uprising after uprising.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I know, I’ve got a book in my bookshelves here about a communist uprising in Brazil. Then we had the communist uprising in Spain. It was known at that time in Europe that communism was a huge threat to Western values and Western civilization.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Adolf Hitler was a strong opponent of Marxism. He considered it almost like an evil religion. And when President Ford, and later on much more so President Reagan and President Nixon before them had certain anti-communist statements made, President Reagan was the one that coined the phrase “<em>the evil empire</em>”. Well, let me tell you, Adolf Hitler had called Bolshevism and the Soviet Union “<em>an evil empire</em>” already in 1920s! And had initiated policies to contain the evil empire in the late 1930s. Making what he called the anti-Comintern pact with Italy, Japan and Germany.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:05]</span></p>
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<p>And he also knew from his intelligence services that Russia <span style="color: #008000;">[Soviet Union]</span>, armed to the teeth as they were, were pulling together troops at the Eastern border.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so he knew that they were going to attack Germany and Western Europe. How did he know? Because the German armed forces and the German spy system against communism worked. They had lots and lots of ethnic Europeans in the east who were siding with the German government. And so their information was excellent!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when Hitler finally ended up in this terrible tragedy with Poland, which France and England used as a declaration, as the reason for a declaration of war against Germany, Hitler knew that he had to quickly finish the continental powers in a kind of a pre-emptive quick strike in order to keep his back free, because he knew that the Soviet Union was arming and ready and rearing to go and invade Germany from the East. Germany didn’t have enough land, enough depth, geopolitically speaking, geographically speaking, to absorb the massive invasion forces which were then beginning to build up on her Eastern Frontier.</p>
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<p>And so, luckily for Germany, France was subdued quickly, Holland and Belgium also. And Hitler could now turn his attention to the east. By now, his air force, using the very latest in technology, high altitude planes, quite similar to the later the very famous U2 spy planes which Francis Gary Powers used to fly over the Soviet Union. Hitler had similar planes, not quite as sophisticated, of course, but he could penetrate with his reconnaissance airplanes, flying at tremendously high altitudes for the first time using pressurized cabins, way into the heartland of Russia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How do we know it? Because we have books about it. One man has been on my mailing list for three decades. His name is George Pemler. George Pemler, P E M L E R. He has written a book called, <em>Der Flug zum Don</em>, published by Drufel publishing house in Germany, in which he details and shows with all kinds of photographs the massive build-up of Soviet forces on the German border.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Der-Flug-zum-Don-The-Flight-to-the-Don-River-George-Pemler-Book-Cover-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-37315" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Der-Flug-zum-Don-The-Flight-to-the-Don-River-George-Pemler-Book-Cover-.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="667" /></a></p>
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<p>And so Hitler knew that he was not strong enough to just merely defend himself against Russia. And so they decided to pre-emptorily strike at the build-up of the Soviet forces very much the way Israel did in a repeat policy. And many people said, using a copycat plan against the Arab world in 1967 with exactly the same results. The Israelis attacked air fields in Egypt, in Syria and in other places, in Jordan, destroying the planes on the ground. They attacked missile batteries, destroying them on the ground.</p>
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<p>And once they were silenced, then the ground forces, Israel’s tank forces, could sweep through the desert, driving the Arab forces before them into the desert. And ultimately Israel scored a stunning defeat in a very, very short war called the Six Day War.</p>
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<p>Hitler’s forces did exactly the same thing in 1941 in the east. And the German air force that was opposed by over 14,000 Soviet planes knocked down over 12,500 planes or bombed them underground within the first two weeks of the war. The German air force at that time had less than 4,000 3,750 planes. The same could be said for ground forces, tank forces and so on. It was not German massive armor that won this. It was superior German generalship and planning. And also the elandes, the spirit of the German troops.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, they were unable to deliver a knockout blow against the Soviet Union, which the world had expected. Basically, we know today because of treason in German ranks! Treason was the reason for Hitler not winning the war against the Soviet Union. And this is why Germany got stuck in the east!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is why these huge battles of attrition in Stalingrad, where over 300,000 German men marched into Stalingrad and where only 6,000 of them came back after the Second World War from Stalin’s Gulag. 96,000 prisoners were taken. About 90,000 of them vanished!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you wonder why there were so few planes, so few troops, so few tanks in the West. Well, I tell you, they were in the east defending Europe, Western Europe against the Soviet onslaught, against the hordes of the evil empire, as President Reagan would have called it.</p>
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<p>And so Europe’s men, we have to remember that, the Hungarians, the Slovakians, the many Polish volunteers, Ukrainian volunteers, Danish, Dutch volunteers. Alone in Denmark, four times as many people were serving in the SS in the German armed forces of Danish nationality than were serving in the Danish armed forces and police! This is an incredible statistic which very few people know.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/The-Story-of-the-Waffen-SS-Degrelle-619.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-34019" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/The-Story-of-the-Waffen-SS-Degrelle-619.jpg" alt="" width="451" height="593" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/The-Story-of-the-Waffen-SS-Degrelle-619.jpg 742w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/The-Story-of-the-Waffen-SS-Degrelle-619-600x788.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 451px) 100vw, 451px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/2015/02/01/the-epic-story-of-the-waffen-ss-leon-degrelle/" rel="next">The Epic Story of the Waffen SS – Leon Degrelle</a>]</span></p>
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<p>So Hitler’s Germany was defending Europe’s interest in the east. And this is why the Allies had such an easy time in the West. This is why the there were only 270 operational tanks and only 375 planes to meet the Allies’ 12,000 planes in the West. They were bleeding to death in the east for Europe. And so look at it in the context of a German or of Germany. The Germans defended Europe and European style civilization against Soviet Bolshevism.</p>
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<p>And so this was the reason that I should have given you before we went into Normandy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, the next series of programs that you’re going to hear have to do largely with Israel and German jewish relations. And I think it is timely because very, very little has been said about this period in history and the German side of it.</p>
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<p>I am Ernst Zundel speaking for The Voice of Freedom. Yes, I am a son of the Germans using the facilities of North American radio stations and the freedom guaranteed to me by the United States, Constitution, by the Canadian Bill of Rights, or the other way around, to bring you dissident or different information. And all I’m asking you is. You don’t have to believe me. Just open up your mind to our German viewpoint and our Germans.</p>
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<p>Ernst Zundel here thanking you for your support.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Joel Davis on the need to rehabilitate National Socialism as an alternative to (((liberal))) democracy that is destroying the West. Items discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark introduces Joel Davis as a leading young intellectual in the world-wide nationalist movement (2:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel explains he wrote an essay defending the rehabilitation of National Socialism in response to Keith Woods’ criticism (7:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues nationalism needs an ideology to serve it, and National Socialism is built entirely out of the nationalist idea (10:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel discusses Carl Schmitt’s prediction that liberalism and nationalism would become enemies (13:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues Germany had a unique historical role in resisting liberalism in Europe (18:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark asks Joel to focus on why National Socialism is relevant today rather than historical context (22:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel says Australia needs National Socialist principles to survive as a White nation (25:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We need a movement that inspires people to have courage.”-Joel (30:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of the term “Nazi” losing power as an insult (35:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel criticises conservatives for allowing the Left to dictate their standards (40:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark questions Joel’s opposition to working with other ethnic nationalist groups (45:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“I want to have a space where White people organise our own politics amongst ourselves.”-Joel (50:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate over showing empathy for Palestinian victims vs focusing solely on White interests (60:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues Whites need to focus on organising themselves rather than foreign conflicts (70:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We need fighters. I mean, obviously by fighters you mean political fighters.”-Mark (75:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Holocaust revisionism becoming more mainstream (80:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel says rehabilitating National Socialism is the last discursive gate-keeping to break (85:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark notes the irony of Joel’s past charity work in India given his current views (90:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel explains his view that Whites need their own exclusive organisations (95:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We should be going out and meeting with Whites, converting Whites to our worldview, organising Whites into our organisation.”-Joel (100:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate over showing empathy for non-White victims of conflicts (105:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues caring about foreign conflicts is a distraction from focusing on White interests (110:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark suggests Joel’s approach lacks the politeness of historical National Socialists (115:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of differences between Australian and British communication styles (120:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel criticises seeking alliances with non-Whites as reproducing White weakness (125:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate over anti-Islam rhetoric potentially serving Zionist interests (130:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“We’ve got to protect Israel, you know.”-Mark sarcastically (135:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel argues cowardice, not argument framing, is holding back the White race (140:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“I believe in the total rational coherence of my worldview”-Joel (145:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Joel says World War II was a metaphysical war between the particular and universal (150:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Mark thanks Joel and urges Keith Woods to debate him.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody, and welcome to tonight’s stream. Sorry we’re a couple of minutes late. I had a few things to do with the family. Sunday night bedtimes, never easy, but here we are. So we might run five minutes over to make it up to you.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, this is a very important stream and we’re live tonight on Rumble. We’re live on Odysee, we’re live on DLive, and we’re live on Entropy.</p>
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<p>And if you want to share this, please do, because this is an important debate and I’m going to be dealing with this slightly differently tonight to how other people have dealt with this, because I want to ask Joel some really searching questions and I also want to discuss the wider issues around this debate.</p>
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<p>So if you can share this, it would be very much appreciated and I’ll be sharing it myself on Telegram in a couple of seconds.</p>
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<p>Now, I’d like to thank Joel firstly for getting up so early in the morning to do this. He’s already knocking back the energy drink and this is an hour later than I usually do stream. So thank you to all the people who have turned up, regardless of the sort of slightly strange scheduling, and to all the Australian guests who have woken up super early.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously there’s been a lot of people debating this over the last couple of days. There’s been a lot of people in my chat debating this today when I announced the stream. So if you want to put a question to Joel, you can through Odysee or Entropy, if you want to send a Superchat, you can.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m going to ask Joel questions, and depending on the number of Superchats, I will ask him questions from the audience in the second half of the show. And we’re aiming to go for between about an hour and a half and two hours, two hours max. And in this time, I want to allow Joel to assert himself, but I also want to ask him questions that are what I think are the most sort of common and sort of overdone critiques of what Joel is saying. I do want to see how he answers those. And I have a few critiques of what he says.</p>
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<p>And I also have a few questions about certain things that, from my perspective, I find a little bit odd about what’s going on at the moment. You might be thinking:</p>
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<p>But if you want to put your questions to Joel, you can do. Now, any Superchats go to a good cause. So if you do want to make a donation, if you do want to support the stream, please do. So and you can do that via Odysee or Entropy. As I said earlier, just hit that support button and all funds are gratefully received.</p>
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<p>Now, let’s get into this. Listening to the debate, because most people have seen the debate. The debate started when Keith Woods wrote an article about this saying why no one should be invested at all in National Socialism and why it sort of needed to be dumped. And this came on the back of Keith actually doing sort of a debunking of sorts of Europa the Last Battle.</p>
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<p>Now, I’ve seen Europa the Last Battle, I think it’s excellent, I really enjoyed it. But Keith had a few negative things to say about it and a few people were like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well why is Keith doing this, why is he going down this route, etc?”</span></h3>
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<p>And look, I really like Keith, think he’s an intelligent guy. I’ve had him on the show plenty of times. I’ve not met him in real life, but he seems really nice. He’s always very, very affable. But Keith hasn’t debated Joel publicly about this, and I think that’s a bit of a mistake on Keith’s part. Because I think if your ideas are going to stand up and they’re going to be held to scrutiny, they have to do so not in the vacuum of your own personal writings on your Substack, but in the open field of debate with your contemporaries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, when I was held to account for certain things I said about Vladimir Putin, Russia, Ukraine, etc, well, I went on a debate and I debated Greg Johnson, and around 80% of the people who voted afterwards said they thought I won that debate, which was happy about. But if I don’t feel confident in what I’m saying, maybe I wouldn’t have done the debate. But I do feel confident. I think Keith should debate Joel. I messaged both of them and I’d have liked them to have done this as an actual debate.</p>
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<p>But obviously Joel’s come on and I’m gonna sort of play a little bit of devil’s advocate here to spice things up a little bit. And I’ll also give my personal view nearer the end of this.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m gonna start by saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, Joel, I really respect you.”</span></h3>
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<p>I’ve met you in person, I really like you, and I think you are one of the leading young intellectuals in the world-wide nationalist movement. And you get plenty of praise, you get plenty of fantastic media appearances, and you always do very, very well. You’ve also been a speaker at one of my events, a Patriotic Alternative event, and you did excellently. Your speeches were always fantastic! And you’re somebody who is face out. You’re somebody who’s put your neck on the line and your name on the line.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[05:03]</span></p>
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<p>So if anyone in the chat is going to be sort of besmirching this guy, I’ve seen some people attacking Joel. Personally, I think that’s very unfair. Joel isn’t sort of a faceless, nameless Internet pseudonym who comes out and says things. Joel is somebody who is brave enough to say what he thinks and say it under his own name using his own face.</p>
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<p>So I want to sort of keep this clean and if there are trolls in the chat, I won’t have any hesitation but to Whack-A-Mole them out of existence! So please do be respectful in the chat and keep it clean.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, that doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything Joel says, but please do sort of keep it clean and no ludicrous accusations being thrown around, etc, etc. Because as I say, I do value Joel highly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And anyway, let’s get into this. I’ve been speaking for about five minutes, and that’s five minutes too long. So everyone wants to hear what Joel’s got to say. So, Joel, my friend, I’m going to tap away furiously and send out the notifications to say we’re live.</p>
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<p>But would you like to give us sort of five minutes of your position on this, sort of summarize things in five minutes and then we’ll get into this?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p>So obviously I wrote a Substack essay which was a response to Keith’s, because Keith’s Substack post was actually a response to me. He referenced a series of Telegram posts that I made and he literally put like, A Response to Joel Davis as the as the subheading of the essay. So I thought I should say something back. And obviously, for those that have been around a while would know, Keith and I are old associates. I have met Keith in real life multiple times when I’ve been in Europe. We’re old friends. I known him for like six years or something. And we’ve had a lot of discussions about a lot of subjects over the years.</p>
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<p>So if we disagree on something publicly, it’s actually the product of probably a lot of private disagreements over a very long period of time manifesting in some public form.</p>
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<p>So he decided to make an essay. I thought this gives me an opportunity to explain my position in a way that’s probably engaging for the audience. So then I did an essay myself, but the essay that I did deal with Keith’s arguments at the end of the essay. But the bulk of the essay is actually the substance of my position. And there’s kind of like two aspects to the debate.</p>
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<p>One aspect is the question of rehabilitation, and the other aspect is actually identifying as a National Socialist in an explicit way. What I was arguing for, in a very strong sense, was the necessity of rehabilitation, because Keith attacked both notions. I also identify as a National Socialist for various reasons, but the essay that I wrote is primarily a defense of the rehabilitation of National Socialism. Why, even if you want to call your nationalism by a different term or you want to embrace nationalism in a slightly modified way or whatever, that there needs to be a project of rehabilitation of many of the elements of National Socialism so that you’re free to use them essentially, so that you don’t have to do nationalism with the training wheels on, so to speak. So you don’t have to do nationalism under the limitations of distinguishing yourself from the National Socialists, which I think is undoubtedly a reality that we face in the contemporary situation.</p>
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<p>There was one part of Keith’s original article where he basically almost said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, it’s becoming irrelevant these days, World War II and the Nazis, and it’s fading away, so we should just let it fade away.”</span></h3>
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<p>But the whole premise of the article itself was that it’s actually nuclear! There’s all this stigma around National Socialism. And so attaching ourselves to it in any way, in any kind of positive way, is actually really negative. So it doesn’t make any sense. It kind of it both ways. Like either the stigma exists or it doesn’t.</p>
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<p>And I think it obviously exists. I don’t know how you can say that it isn’t still probably the most controversial subject in all of politics. So clearly that’s there, right?</p>
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<p>Also, there’s the reality that the entire post World War II international order has really been built around a response to the Second World War and the ideological dispute that retroactively became the meaning of the Second World War. Now there’s all these more geopolitical or economic or like practical reasons why World War II came into existence.</p>
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<p>But ultimately the meaning of World War II, according to its victorious allies, was the destruction of the ideology of National Socialism. So like, apparently the reason why we had to declare war on Germany at the beginning was because they invaded Poland and we gave Poland a security guarantee, but the war ends with Poland under Soviet control anyway. And the Soviets also invaded Poland and we didn’t declare war on them. In fact, we allied with them against National Socialism.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[10:12]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Like, this is getting into the weeds already. I mean, let me start this again in a way that I think is a better way to start this.</p>
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<p>So I’ve been involved in this cause for two and a half decades. And when I first got involved, most people that I met in the cause were in some way, either they were either openly sort of National Socialists, covertly National Socialists, or they’d been influenced in some way by National Socialism.</p>
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<p>Now the first thing I find very difficult to sort of comprehend about Keith’s position is the complete disavowal of National Socialism is odd, because whether you’re a National Socialist or not, and whether you identify as a National Socialist or not, I’ve got to say that pretty much any genuine nationalist movement in the world today shares the two central tenets of National Socialism, which are the nationalism and the socialism.</p>
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<p>You do this for your people, which is the nationalism. You do this for your country. You do this because you want a homogenous closed bordered nation, that’s the national.</p>
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<p>But you do this because you want your people to treat each other like a family. You don’t want your people to be preying on each other. You don’t want the rich preying on the poor. You don’t want the owners of capital preying on the worker. You want the workers and the owners of capital to work hand in hand. You want the rich to give the poor a leg up and you want the poor then to work hard so the rich have the capital to help the poor up further. There is a social aspect to nationalism.</p>
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<p>So National Socialism, whatever you say about it, those two central strands run through every nationalist organisation that is alive today that is up and going.</p>
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<p>So I looked at when I was involved in the BNP, we went out into working class communities and we told those people that we wanted British jobs for British workers. We wanted a homogeneous society, we wanted to end immigration, we wanted a fair wage for the working man, we wanted to make sure the NHS worked for normal people. Now the BNP was not a National Socialist party by any means, but to deny that there wasn’t the national and the social in the BNP would be to deny reality.</p>
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<p>And really, I see where you’re going with this, but I felt that everyone that’s spoken to you about this, without being disrespectful to the people who have spoken to you or talking over you, have failed to grasp the fundamentals of this debate. And where I’m coming from is to say that National Socialism has no relevance would be to say that every nationalist movement today that incorporates the national and the social also has no relevance. And whilst these movements may not be National Socialist, you can see where they’ve come from and you can see a synergy.</p>
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<p>And this is where I didn’t really understand Greg Johnson or Keith Woods’s position, because I don’t see how you can deny what I’ve just said. But please give your perspective.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, yeah, well, like in my essay, because as I said, the essay fundamentally was a defense of my position on the basis of itself. And then I dealt with some of Keith’s criticisms, what I thought his main criticisms were at the end in light of that. And I basically broke down my position into three main subjects.</p>
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<p>The first is that nationalism isn’t an ideology in my view. Nationalism is an idea, but it’s an idea that has historically been mixed with other ideologies, in particular liberalism. So from the late 18th century up until the early 20th century, there was a lot of nationalist liberal movements, but there’s been plenty of other kinds of nationalist movements as well throughout history. Nationalism is itself can just be seen as an idea, not necessarily the only idea which is of concern or even the most fundamental idea. It can just be one of many ideas that are considered valuable by a particular political party or movement or what have you. So my point was that nationalism needs an ideology to serve it.</p>
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<p>And if you value the nationalist idea to its most fundamental, I believe National Socialism is a political ideology that is basically built entirely out of the nationalist idea without basically taking in any other elements. It’s basically starting at the idea of nationalism and then working it out to its absolute logical conclusion. And that’s what differentiated it from many of the liberal nationalist movements of its time and prior to its time, because National Socialism purged all the liberal qualities from nationalism.</p>
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<p>This is significant because of the second part of my argument, which was a dialectical argument, which is that basically nationalism and liberalism have become incompatible not just because of the decision, like some kind of like specific concrete decision to turn nationalism against liberalism, because there was a bunch of nationalists who didn’t like liberalism, but because actually nationalism as an idea and liberalism as an idea are actually contradictory. And I appeal to the work of Carl Schmitt, particularly his Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy to make that point, because he basically said this in the early 1920s. He was probably the greatest German political theorist of his time. He obviously ended up joining the party. Carl Schmitt is still studied today as one of the great political thinkers of all time, despite that association.</p>
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<p>You know, someone’s a really excellent intellectual when they could have been a Nazi and they still get taught in the universities in the contemporary era, like Martin Heidegger. Carl Schmitt is a very like rare Nazi intellectual, that’s just too good to cancel. Right?</p>
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<p>But Carl Schmitt basically predicted and articulated what was happening and predicted the 20th century, the trajectory of politics where liberalism and nationalism would turn against one another and become enemies. Where previously they had been allies. That was mostly galvanised by, particularly from the late 18th, early 19th century, their mutual opposition to monarchy in various respects.</p>
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<p>So you can think of a few examples of this, like say you’re in the Austro-Hungarian empire, right? You’re in this multi-ethnic empire and you are a nationalist and you want to liberate your particular ethnic group from some multi-ethnic empire. Well, obviously you’re going to kind of find common cause with a liberal notion of popular sovereignty, of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh well, we can liberate ourselves and create a Parliamentary system that represents our people directly.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or you know, look at like the French Revolution and its consequences. You know, if you’re going to come along and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we speak on behalf of the French people by virtue of the fact of our Parliamentary system and the King doesn’t, the King is the enemy of the people.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or whatever. You can appeal to nationalism and legitimate a liberal revolution like that. Or in America there were appeals to nationalism to differentiate the American interest from the British Empire, and the list goes on.</p>
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<p>So there was a tension between nationalist interests and monarchical interests. And therefore common cause was found historically for various reasons.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[18:12]</span></p>
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<p>But then basically the old monarchies of Europe were largely, by the end of World War I, they’d been largely defeated. Now liberalism had had a pretty totalizing victory over Western European politics. But liberalism for Schmitt is built around this idea because liberalism is built on the notion of the social contract and the Constitution. Liberalism is built around this idea of basically protecting the rights of individuals and the rights of minority groups against the majority will. It’s not, Americans will often say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re a Republic, not a democracy.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or something like that. You’ll hear Conservatives say that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s what that idea is, which is that you have certain rights and liberties as an individual or as a minority group, which the state can’t violate even if the will of the majority is against you.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, this is actually in direct opposition to the pure notion of popular sovereignty, the pure notion of democracy, which is that the will of the people should triumph.</p>
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<p>And the will of the people isn’t just okay, if we’ve got like a set of voters and 50% plus one of our citizens vote for something that means it’s the will of the people. No, that’s not what Rousseau meant by the notion of popular sovereignty or the general will. And that’s not what Schmitt is talking about the popular sovereignty or the general will, to use the Rousseau’s term, as understood by Schmitt, is people who think in terms of the common interest, in terms of the national interest. Right. So what National Socialism means is putting the social, in the sense, the interests of society at large first!</p>
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<p>But obviously that is understood in national terms. The national community’s interests come first before any individual or minority group interest, class interest, whatever other type of interest.</p>
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<p>So therefore, the idea of democracy can only really be realised in the idea of nationalism, in the idea of putting the national interest before any of these other minority groups, or including the individual themselves.</p>
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<p>And so therefore there’s this collision course between the idea of liberalism and the idea of nationalism, where. And that’s built into the notion of liberal democracy, that actually, you can’t have democracy without nationalism. Actually, democracy is illiberal when taken to its final conclusion as a notion.</p>
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<p>And so that mutual collision course that was built into the ideas ends up realizing itself in a very concrete way in the 20th century.</p>
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<p>And that’s what I posit. National Socialism was the ultimate historical materialisation of and the making concrete of was this phenomenon. Because the National Socialists recognised that a liberal order which was imposed upon Germany by their defeat in World War I. Obviously, there was liberal elements in the German state prior to World War I, but the Germans were obviously unique in Europe, in how much they resisted liberalism.</p>
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<p>And you can see this in., &#8230; And this is the third part of my argument, which is Germany’s unique historical role. Which is that obviously in Western Europe, particularly at that time, you have some major powers. You know, Germany is a major power, France is a major power, Britain’s a major power. And I guess you could say, like the Russians slash Soviet Union. And the Russian slash Soviet Union are kind of like the odd man out in Europe. They kind of got one foot in the door, one foot outside the door. And that’s a complex thing.</p>
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<p>But in Western Europe, it’s a very kind of cohesive culture in the modern world, where the development of German culture, French culture, British culture, and all the other smaller nations surrounding them, it’s kind of all happening in a kind of collective dance called “<em>modernity</em>”. You know, everyone is listening to each other’s music, reading each other’s philosophers, and Western Europe develops kind of together. Obviously, there’s national differences, but it develops together.</p>
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<p>And where the British and the French really anchored their political traditions in the Enlightenment and in liberalism, the Germans were far more resistant to it. You know, the Romanticist movement in reaction to the Enlightenment in the late 18th, early 19th century, it was all over Europe, but it was really dominant in Germany.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But Joel you’re giving a great sort of history lesson and sort of justification of National Socialism of the 1920s and 30s. But really what I was asking you is the debate is whether it’s sort of relevant today.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, but it is relevant because we live in history.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But I couch this as sort of like every popular nationalist party today takes the two central strands from the National Socialists, and weaves it into what they do, the national and the social. And I just wanted your take on that to whether you think that’s actually what is happening, because if that is happening, then it is undeniably relevant.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[23:14]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I think that’s true. But it’s important to understand things dialectically, in other words, that ideas have a history and that ideas work themselves out through trying to actually manifest themselves, particularly when we’re talking about politics in a concrete form, where they start realizing who their friends and enemies are through the process.</p>
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<p>So obviously, the liberalism of the 18th century is not the same as the liberalism of today. The socialism of the 19th century is not the same as the socialism of today because these movements, as they started trying to concretely realise themselves, had shifting alliances. So liberalism once was allied with nationalism. Now it’s against it. Socialism once anchored itself in the White working class of Europe. Now it anchors itself in, basically Third World immigrants and homosexuals and feminism and so on. And it’s changed a lot of its core commitments. Well, to understand why that is, you have to understand the actual process of history. And so the appeal, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think that’s the argument against what you’re saying, Joel, is that, &#8230; So there’s several arguments that I didn’t really want to get into this straight away, but I was more sort of hoping you’d discuss how and why it is relevant today. Because I mean Keith’s major argument or one of Keith’s major arguments or one of your major detractors’ arguments is that a history lesson is a great thing and discussing why things were relevant, how they came about, how they grew in that era is fascinating!</p>
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<p>But we’re in 2025 now, you know, National Socialism sort of burnt in the fires of Germany in 1945 and we’re 80 years on from that now. I was more so looking for your perspective on why it is or why you believe, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Here’s why it is, Mark, because I’m in, &#8230; For example, as an Australian, to make it more concrete, as an Australian, we have obviously a White nationalist tradition. Australia was federated in 1901 under the leadership of a White nationalist movement. Obviously we didn’t rebel against the Crown. In retrospect we probably should have, but we didn’t. I don’t say that because of any kind of anti-Anglo sentiment. Obviously I am an Anglo Saxon.</p>
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<p>But the reason why I say that is because there were some radical elements in our nationalist movement that wanted to rebel against the Crown and put the White Australia Policy in our constitution. And basically we were watered down quite significantly by the British Parliament in some of the more radical aspects of what one was aimed for by the nationalist movement.</p>
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<p>But nevertheless the we established the White Australia Policy through legislation and we built a White nationalist country. We had a nationalised banking system, we had a very good government, comparatively speaking, prior to the Second World War in Australia. Noble, good nationalist men. And people say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Joel, why are you worried about this Hitler stuff? Australia had these great nationalist leaders to begin with. They had a strong, robust White nationalist tradition. Why not just focus on the Australian nationalist tradition? Why even bring in this foreign German stuff?”</span></h3>
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<p>And the response to that is very simple. The Australian White nationalist tradition, which I do look to and I do admire and I talk about frequently and obviously it’s part of our history, so it would be silly not to. It was fundamentally a liberal tradition!</p>
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<p>So I don’t believe that we can have a solution to what is the world that we now exist in, which is a world in which liberalism and nationalism have turned against each other and are now enemies, where the project of global liberalism is fundamentally anchored in destroying nationalism and preventing any real nationalism from existing. I don’t believe it’s possible to create a liberal version of nationalism that’s viable. I think we have to accept the reality of where we are in history, that nationalism has to oppose itself to liberalism.</p>
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<p>And so therefore I have to go and look to historical situations where that happened, where nationalist movements of our counterparts in Europe turned on liberalism and why and what methods they used to then draw inspiration to create a liberal nationalist movement in Australia. Because there wasn’t one in any kind of serious way in our history. We didn’t need one necessarily, because liberalism hadn’t fallen into this crisis of contradiction until the post World War II international order came about through the defeat of National Socialism and liberalism became more self consciously an anti-nationalist project. Where liberalism’s core commitment now is defending basically minority rights and interests against the assertion of the majority will.</p>
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<p>That is very explicitly the project now. And that’s the, basically the official state policy of my country now. How did that come into being and why? And what do you do about that? What you do about that is you assert the majority will in a direct political form. There is no form more pure, that I can see, in history of doing that than the National Socialists of Germany, where it was a completely totalizing and comprehensive political project anchored in that fundamental principle.</p>
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<p>And so that’s why I derive not only inspiration from that project, but also why that project needs to be rehabilitated. Because if that project is demonised and is considered this great historical evil, and there isn’t some kind of revisionist process where we can bring those ideas back into the discussion, where we can consider them again in an open way and consider their strengths and weaknesses or whatever, we can’t have that kind of mature discussion about them. We then basically have completely cut ourselves off from being able to form a robust and militant illiberal nationalism that is capable of doing what is necessary, in my view, to save our people.</p>
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<p>Because I think of only a radical political project is ultimately going to be capable of addressing the great crisis of demographics. You know, the way in which, for example, my country, but this is true for pretty much every country, the way in which we’ve been integrated into this global marketplace and we’ve lost so much of our economic sovereignty in addition to having all these foreigners brought in and our elites are all traitors that are part of an (((international clique))) and the obviously the role of jewish subversion, but not just that Communist subversion and so on.</p>
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<p>When the National Socialists came to power, they eradicated Marxism, they removed jews from all positions of power. They completely crushed Freemasonry. They wiped out all the enemies of the German people from political life and from public life. They banned foreign owned media, they banned jewish owned media. Only media that was by the German people, for the German people, in the interest of the German people was able to exist.</p>
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<p>And so they protected the collective psyche of their people from subversion by alien and hostile foreign elements. That isn’t a liberal idea. That’s an idea nevertheless that I support and is necessary. And a liberal nationalist movement isn’t able to be as totalizing where you could seize state power, where you could use state power to totally crush the enemies of your people and instantiate a positive project of basically developing the blood and quality of the race of your nation in very explicit terms. National Socialism does this. National Socialism also has a intense realism about human nature and the human condition. The reality of struggle, the reality that ultimately to, &#8230; Because nationalism is built on this idea of self-determination, right? And you hear a lot of the concept of the so-called Right to self-determination. Apparently liberal world order gives all the nations that make it up, it recognises that they have a right to self-determination, apparently.</p>
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<p>But it’s an ideological phantasm. You don’t actually have self-determination unless you are powerful enough to assert it. If your right to self-determination is guaranteed by another country, or a set of international alliances that you’re subject to, you’re not actually determining your own destiny. You’re subject to their whims.</p>
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<p>So you can see the so-called American guarantee of self-determination, it doesn’t really feel very much like self-determination. It gives you the right to essentially have the ideology that the US State Department wants you to have. Which just so happens to correspond with you being soft core genocided in your own country. Nationalist movements being suppressed so that they can’t assert them any kind of independent will from this process and your entire economic and financial system being integrated into an international system that you don’t control, run by foreigners who don’t give a shit about you and exploit you essentially for their own benefit.</p>
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<p>So that’s why National Socialism needs to be rehabilitated. Because the demonisation of the set of ideas that are bundled underneath National Socialism is a demonisation of a bundle of ideas that need to be applied to create a comprehensive political solution to the problems that are facing us as nationalists today. If we have to cuck ourselves and limit ourselves to only doing nationalism within a liberal framework, we will not create a political movement that is radical or revolutionary enough to achieve the victory that is necessary.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So basically what you’re saying is that the fundamental strands of National Socialism are still relevant today, and more than ever necessary. And by basically disavowing and pretending that’s not the case, we limit ourselves and we actually put a barrier between ourselves and creating the movement you believe we need to win back our freedom. Is that pretty much your point?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p>Because if you start doing anything that is, or advocating, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Can I ask a follow up then? Because you see the biggest argument against what you’re saying, and this goes back to what I was saying earlier. I said the BNP was not a National Socialist Party, but at its core were what you could have said were the national and the social. There was the nationalism and the socialism. There was the desire for a homogeneous nation, but there was also a desire to ensure that people work together for the greater good of the community and to treat each other as part of an extended family.</p>
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<p>So you could say at the core of the BNP’s principles, as you could argue at the core of, say, any nationalist organisation’s principles, are the national and the social. But the BNP believed that by wrapping up those principles in something that was more British, in something that was more relevant, and in something that didn’t come packaged with the baggage of the Second World War, with the baggage of his Hitler, with the baggage of decades of brainwashing, it would be easier to sell.</p>
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<p>So it wasn’t that the BNP had given up on the ideas, but the BNP believed that by., &#8230; And I keep going back to the BNP, because I was involved in the BNP and the BNP were electorally, literally the most successful, openly sort of ethno, &#8230; Not the most successful right of the Conservative Party movement by a long way, but the most successful ethno-nationalist organisation in British history. And the people running it believed that that was the best thing to do, to hold on to those central strands, but to repackage them in a way which wasn’t so off putting to normal people. Because, you know, we’re, as I said, we’re in 2025. There’s been 80 years of intense brainwashing, intense social conditioning.</p>
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<p>And do you think there’s any mileage to taking those central strands, stripping away certain sort of associations and selling sort of nationalism and community in a way that would be less easy to demonise? So say rather than using a swastika, you use the Australian flag. Or rather than putting a picture of Hitler front and centre. You would, if you’re in Britain. You would take British heroes.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:55]</span></p>
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<p>And another thing about this, and this is something which nationalists have always found a barrier, nationalists have always found it very difficult to get past. And I’ve spoken about this very many times. Here in the Anglo-sphere and in Britain especially, there is this sort of foundational myth that came about after the Second World War, that Britain was founded on the idea of opposition to foreign dictators. And the idea that the sort of Britain was this plucky little upstart nation that went around defeating people like Hitler. And that’s when Britain was born. Britain was born out of sort of two World Wars and one World Cup, as ridiculous as it sounds.</p>
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<p>How do you respond to that allegation? We don’t have much time left. I mean, here in Britain, they’re saying 2066, where White Brits are a minority. White British children could be a minority in schools by 2035, easily, by just past, 20030, if current trends continue as they are today. And people will say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, look, we don’t have much time left. We don’t have time to sort of educate the masses. We don’t have time to break down 80 years of brainwashing and conditioning. We need to take these core fundamentals and repackage them in a way that is more saleable to the man on the street and less likely to scare people away.”</span></h3>
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<p>How do you respond to that?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I would say that’s a distinct issue. Like, my argument is not that everyone needs to package themselves as National Socialists. That was not my argument. My argument was that a project of rehabilitation is necessary so that any illiberal nationalist package that you try to create can have legitimacy.</p>
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<p>My argument is from the standpoint of ideological purity, which people often use this word purity, or particularly ideological purity, as if it is like a negative thing. And they use the phrase like “<em>purity spiraling</em>”. They say this is a negative thing. Taking your own ideas seriously. It’s not a negative thing. That’s actually an insane position to uphold because basically you’re showing a lack of confidence in your own ideas.</p>
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<p>We are not going to convert the masses to any ideology because the masses are not ideological! What we can do, however, is convert the radical portion of society, or a very substantial portion of them, people who do want to develop an actual worldview, people who are interested in actually participating concretely in politics, making individual sacrifices towards a political movement. Giving their time, their resources, taking risks with, obviously in our line of work, with potentially running afoul of law enforcement and so on. There’s only a certain subset of the population that is willing to do that kind of thing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that subset of the population are also the subset of the population that have way more political agency than voters. Right? I don’t build my political strategy around just simply how to appeal to voters. I want to build a political strategy around how do I get that 1% of radical nationalists into a room, fired up and inspired, where they’re willing to run through brick walls for the White race!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because if you have that 1% of the population ready to do that, organised into a serious political movement, then you can show strength to the people. Then you can show something quite impressive to the people and win them over on the basis of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look at my 100,000 strong nationalist movement, look at how cool they look in their uniforms.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or in Britain you can’t wear uniforms. But look at the excellence that we have on display. Look at the fact that we could show the people that we’ve got a real force that can fight for you, that we don’t just have an idea, we’ve got people that are organised around an idea, that are willing to fight for that idea and challenge an elite that you hate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it becomes a dance, it becomes a story, rather than it being just about the ideas in the abstract. It becomes this concrete group versus that concrete group. And under those conditions, I think it’s a lot easier to win people over to supporting a radical political movement as voters or whatever, when it’s actually material, when they can actually see the leaders, when that movement can actually do concrete things in their community for them, they can meet individuals from that movement. They can see that they have sincerity, they can see that they have a plan for taking down a corrupt government that everyone hates. The legitimacy of the British government or the Australian government is at an all time low. I’ve never experienced this in my lifetime and it’s only getting worse and worse each year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the thing is that even though pretty much everyone agrees that the establishment is corrupt, that the system is failing, that basically by every metric society is getting worse, they don’t really see an alternative. You need to build an actual horse for them to back. That horse is not going to be built on the basis of the opinions of the masses. The opinions of the masses move last! It needs to be built upon the willpower of a committed radical minority that are happy to be unpopular because they believe in an idea on the basis of principle.</p>
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<p>And so in order to get win those people over, you actually need to have pure principles! You actually need to have a romantic vision that is built in the essence of what the idea is that they’re going to struggle for. People are not going to go to jail for an optical marketing strategy. People will go to jail, however, for an idea that they truly believe in with their whole heart. So that’s what I’m kind of focused on. When that exists and that, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[41:56]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Can I just give you an example of that? I’ll give you an example of that supports your point because I’ve brought up some stuff that’s critical of the things you’ve said, but I’ll give you an example of some things that are actually supportive of what you’ve just said.</p>
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<p>Now, when I joined the BNP, as I said, most people in it would, especially most activists and leading members would have described themselves as National Socialists. And there was an undercurrent of it in the party. Now, those people would have all gone to the wall for the organisation. They would have all happily gone to jail if they’d have had to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, interestingly, as the party became less and less like this, and people like that were increasingly forced out of the organisation, the party did gain more electoral traction and it did become electorally successful.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the interesting thing was the people who were attracted to the party, the sort of soft, fluffy, squishy newbies who didn’t have any affinity to the sort of ideas you’re talking about and were not ideological in any way. Well, the first bump in the road that the party hit, the first bad election, all those people left and bailed. And because there was no hardcore people left in the organisation, there was nobody left in the organisation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You see, throughout all the lean years, throughout all the bad years in the BNP where nothing was happening, there was still a few thousand members. It wasn’t a relevant organisation because you need a lot more than a few thousand members to be relevant. But those few thousand members kept it ticking over and they never left, because they had something that kept them wedded to the movement, this belief in something greater in an ideology.</p>
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<p>But once you got rid of that hardcore and attracted a bigger, you know, electorally stronger base of less ideological people, the first bump in the road, and all of those were gone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I do think there is a weight to your argument that an ideological core of people are less likely to be broken and more likely to stick at bringing about what they desire than sort of your soft Johnny come lately, Brexit Party, Australia First voters who will go back to the mainstream at the drop of a hat, at the first, as I say, electoral bump in the road. So I think that’s an important point you just made there is something to be said about sticking to something you believe in.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s also something about this which we have to sort of bring up. When you look at what National Socialism was, national Socialism was a very, very ordered, structured, clean movement based around excellence. I think one thing that does put people off National Socialism today is that National Socialism does attract a lot of cranky people. It attracts a lot of weirdos. You know, there were groups in America where you see people walking down the street with swastika flags and they’ve got tattoos all over their face and piercings and gold teeth and stuff like that. I look at that and I see that as a parody of National Socialism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What would you say about some of the weird recreations of National Socialism today? Do you see those as genuine people? Do you see them almost as sort of like Hollywood Nazis attracted to the movement because of a negative stereotype? So they think that if they’re involved with that negative stereotype, they’re the big bad guy and that makes them feel special. Do you think that’s a problem for this as well?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think maybe historically that has been a problem in various instances. But I would say a few things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Number one, someone doing a bad job of an idea isn’t the repudiation of that idea. It’s just them doing a bad job. The question is, well, what if you did a good job?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, like, for example, our organisation <span style="color: #008000;">[NSN]</span>, we’re always trying to raise the standards. You have to start somewhere. And that same was true for the NSDAP. They didn’t start where they finished in terms of their aesthetics and their propriety and so on. There was a lot of street thugs in that, in the Hitler was in the streets punching with them, punching on with communists and so on. It did have a pretty rough beginning in many respects. It was a bunch of street thugs that kind of got together, that spurged out over, you know, German nationalist theory at the pub and then went out and started bashing communists in the street. Like <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that’s one way of describing its origins. There’s more to it than that obviously. But so there is that element.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler-.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33980" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler--1024x697.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="436" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler--1024x697.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler--600x409.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler--768x523.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hitler-A-Short-Sketch-526-painting-of-meeting-Hitler-.jpg 1245w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p>Over time, they refined and they became more sophisticated and they grew and they. And so on. And the uniforms got better and obviously very keen interest was paid to the aesthetics of the presentation of the party. And it’s the most distinctive aesthetic style we’ve ever seen in political history, before or after, that still completely captures the imagination of people to this day.</p>
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<p>So obviously that’s a lot to aspire towards. Hitler himself was literally an artist.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Adolf-Hitlers-Landscape-Painting-Stable-Diffusion-Online.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37237" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Adolf-Hitlers-Landscape-Painting-Stable-Diffusion-Online.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="1024" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Adolf-Hitlers-Landscape-Painting-Stable-Diffusion-Online.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Adolf-Hitlers-Landscape-Painting-Stable-Diffusion-Online-600x600.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Adolf-Hitlers-Landscape-Painting-Stable-Diffusion-Online-768x768.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
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<p>And so in order to be able to replicate anything of that quality is going to require a lot of work. You can’t just get a bunch of your mates together and pull off NSDAP 2, and think that it’s going to be as good. Right. So it’s a difficult thing to accomplish.</p>
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<p>And also, we’re not necessarily doing the exact same thing that we’re doing either, because it’s different conditions and so on. In Australia, for example, Australia has certain energies in the national psyche which, which we’re trying to tap into, which is specific to Australia, that maybe don’t resonate with foreigners.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[48:20]</span></p>
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<p>And part of that is because we’ve got this kind of convict, outlaw mystique in our national identity that subsists, right, where there’s this kind of romantic love of the Kelly Gang* and the Irish kind of convict energy and so on. The kind of rebellion against authority. That’s why Australians have what they call the Tall Poppy syndrome. We like people who are high status to humble themselves and show that they’re one of the people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Ned Kelly Australian bushranger (1854–1880) Edward Kelly was an Australian bushranger, outlaw, gang leader, bank robber and convicted police-murderer. One of the last bushrangers, he is known for wearing a suit of bulletproof armour during his final shootout with the police. Kelly was born and raised in rural Victoria, the third of eight children to Irish parents. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>We’re not like Americans where we celebrate, like, celebrities and like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, this guy’s got so much money and status, let’s hero worship him!”</span></h3>
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<p>Australians are the complete opposite of that. Australians, like the underdog. Australian nationalism was very much built around the worker and the dignity of the Aussie battler* and all of these motifs. And even our kind of wartime mythology is built around these guys just being farmer boys or workers who, hand him a rifle and send him against the Japanese. And he’s like an elite athlete! And it’s like that idea that the average Aussie has actually got incredible or extraordinary qualities, despite having a rough and maybe unsophisticated exterior. That’s kind of part of our, like, national identity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Battler, Underdog-Battlers, in Australian colloquialism, are ordinary working-class people who persevere through their commitments despite adversity. Typically, this adversity comprises low pay, family problems, environmental hardships and personal recognition Woes. It is a term of respect and endearment intended to empower and recognise those who feel as though they exist at the bottom of society. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And so, like, we are going to have to tap into that if we’re going to start accessing that. So a little bit of that outlaw esthetic is good for us in our opinion, where foreigners might look at that and go:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, they’re playing into stereotypes.”</span></h3>
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<p>I don’t think that would work as well. Somewhere like America where they have a completely different culture.</p>
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<p>For example, in America they admire status, they admire this kind of refined, sophisticated individual who’s the excellent businessman, or the Hollywood, you know, movie star or whatever. They’ve got a whole different national mythology and there’s reasons for that I don’t want to go into.</p>
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<p>So you’ve got to adapt to your local culture. Obviously you’ve got to tap into the so-called folkish spirit, of your own people and that to do it authentically. And it would be different for Britain, it’d be different for obviously in Germany, it’s different in Australia, it’s different in different countries. But at its core the question is, are you a group that really takes yourselves seriously?</p>
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<p>Because if you don’t take yourself seriously, then society isn’t going to take you seriously.</p>
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<p>And I think the issue that a lot of people have had with National Socialists in various instantiations, I’m not going to name any names is that they don’t come across in a way where it seems like they’re even taking themselves seriously. They’re not presenting themselves like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Could these guys really be an alternative to the current political establishment? Are these guys really capable of governing in any kind of way?”</span></h3>
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<p>So you have to be able to develop, even if you’re going to have characteristics that differentiate yourselves from the establishment, you have to convey a sense of authority and a sense of seriousness, moral seriousness, political seriousness and so on. That has to come through in how you behave.</p>
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<p>But again, these are all practical questions. The question is, are the ideas in National Socialism good or not? Like, is it a good idea to remove all jews from positions of power? Is it a good idea to go and like destroy Freemasonry? Is it a good idea to ban Marxists from publicly organising in your country? Is it a good idea to have a racially homogeneous nation? Is it a good idea to try and develop sovereignty not just in, by the word sovereignty, but actually gear the energies of your people towards developing the economic and military means of kind of choosing their own destiny in this world?</p>
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<p>These are fundamental principles that are in National Socialism, which I think good and I think Australia needs if Australia is going to survive like the White Australian people are going to survive. We’re going to take this continent back and achieve its full potential. That’s why I’m a National Socialist. I believe in those principles.</p>
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<p>So I think those are good principles. If you come along and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh well, why don’t you just have all those principles but call it some other name?”</span></h3>
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<p>I’m fine, I’m fine with someone saying that. I personally, I’m not going to call it another name. But when you do that, you bundle it together and you assign a different name to it. At the end of the day, there’s still going to be a discourse that’s relevant to the Nazis because they’re going to call you a Nazi for doing a bunch of stuff and believing a bunch of stuff that the Nazis believed and did.</p>
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<p>And so you can spend all of your time saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not like the Nazis because, well, actually, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And write like long TLDR multi-paragraph explanations and how you’re not like the Nazis because of this or that reason. And that’s fine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, there’s going to need to be some kind of reckoning with the idea:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, what’s so bad if we have similarities with the Nazis, Why would we not admire a movement like that as opposed to denigrate it?”</span></h3>
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<p>Why are we operating under like the morality of the enemy, where we’re kind of implicitly agreeing to this idea that National Socialism is this historical evil that we need to prove that we’ve differentiated ourselves from. That’s not showing strength of character and willpower, I don’t think at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If we truly believe in our ideas and take them seriously, and we get compared to the Nazis, we should see that as a compliment! Because that was incredibly successful movement that, basically the entire world had to unite together to defeat in the greatest war of all time! Like, that was an incredible expression of political willpower and of taking what was initially a grassroots movement of like 80 guys in a pub sperging out about political theory. It went from that to that. Like, it’s an incredible story! So we should look to it as a form of inspiration.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[54:12]</span></p>
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<p>And if you don’t look to it as a form of inspiration, you’re either lying, or I think there’s something spiritually defective about your nationalism. Because in every sense in which the Nazis were extreme, or to use that label, or were kind of brutal or militaristic, is a respect in which they were simply willing to do more to achieve what was necessary in a certain sense. They took the idea of securing a future for their people. And not just a future, but a powerful and dominant future.</p>
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<p>And there’s also the secondary aspect of this, which is that what the Germans were fighting for, they were fighting for themselves in the sense they were German nationalists. But what they were fighting for in a historical sense was a different form of Western civilisation, was for a Europe organised around their set of ideas and principles, as opposed to the ideas and principles of the communists or the liberals.</p>
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<p>And that is this kind of like, great kind of historical Spectre which we now live in. Is Western civilisation going to represent these kind of romantic nationalist ideals? Is it going to represent this kind of you know, in my view, World War II was a metaphysical war between the particular and the universal. Where do you side on that debate? Are you on the side of the particular or on the side of the universal?</p>
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<p>And to me, I’m on the side of the particular.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think if the White race doesn’t side with the particular, it will no longer exist. That the collective political, cultural, philosophical and spiritual domination of the White race and our collective culture and civilisation by the universal is fundamentally what is bringing us into this existential confrontation with our own demise.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is even more fundamental to me than the role of jews or anything like that. All of that is a symptom of this more fundamental disease, I believe, of universalism. This metaphysical disease, if you will, where basically our entire moral outlook on the world is relativised into an abstract universal moral framework and has to be justified in those terms, where we can’t just assert ourselves on the basis of ourselves, that we can’t basically measure ourselves by the terms that we create. We can’t create our own values. We can’t assert ourselves as an individual people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Instead, everything has to be:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are the universal rules of humanity? And how can we devise them in such a way that they’re fair and apply to everyone?”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, what that is ultimately is a rationalisation of globalism, a rationalisation of a humanitarianism that conquers European particularism and overcodes it with some project of global racial integration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t believe in that. I don’t believe in kind of trying to compromise with that framework. I believe in repudiating that entire position on the metaphysical level with it, with the metaphysical alternative and trying to represent that in my politics. I think if you try and do that in a racist way, they’re going to call you a Nazi and they’re going to be more or less correct. Like you can have an argument against it. But you’re basically doing more or less the same thing in the essence as what the Nazis were doing. So I think you just have to accept it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So with this argument, I want to add something that people in the chat have been saying, have been sort of watching what the chat’s been saying.</p>
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<p>Now, I’ll say this. I find it a little bit odd that all of a sudden there has been this sort of attack on people who discuss National Socialism, that call themselves National Socialists. I don’t understand why that is all of a sudden. I don’t. And the reason I don’t understand this is because there seemed to be a period of time where National Socialism became less and less popular. But since 2016, more and more people have been talking about it. And there was an article in the news recently that AI translated Hitler speeches were going viral on TikTok and they were being watched by millions and millions of people. You’ve even had a famous sort of UFC fighter come out recently and started talking about maybe Hitler wasn’t that bad. You had before the last election here in Britain, one of the Reform Party candidates came out and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, it would have been far better if Britain had allied with Hitler, if we’d never gone to war with Germany. That would have been the best option.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I see this coming more and more into the mainstream. And I find it odd that as this is becoming more mainstream, just as talking about sort of Zionist, jewish, Israeli influence has become more and more mainstream, there does seem to be some people just out of nowhere saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, we need to drop this NS stuff. No one should be talking about that. No one should ever be bringing this up, least of all now.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I do find that a bit strange because one thing that I’ve always praised the Left for is tactically, and not because I like any of their ideas, but the Left coexist.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[59:52]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you will have the radical Left who coexist with the centre Left, because the centre Left view the radical Left as part of the tug of war. And they see them as the ones at the end of the rope pulling hardest to move the Overton Window in the direction that they need it to go.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas on the quote, unquote, “<em>Right</em>”, you have the very opposite. You have the sort of the centre Right, you have more moderate sort of nationalists attacking those to the right of them and saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look we need complete disassociation with these people. We need to rubbish their ideas. We need to bring them down.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this has gone on for years. But I just find it very strange at the moment that all this would blow up, just as many of the arguments that you make are going more mainstream and people who are either in the mainstream or on mainstream social networks are being exposed to these arguments and many more of them are sort of liking what they see. What do you think caused this sudden sort of group condemnation of these arguments going mainstream from people who are really part of the radical Right? You know, Keith isn’t part of the mainstream Right and neither are many of the people who have criticised this. What do you think led to this criticism?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, obviously, like you said, the problem with Conservatives is that they allow the Left, their ostensible apparent enemies, to dictate their standards to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the Left, that doesn’t happen. Like Anthony Albanese, who’s the Prime Minister of Australia, the head of the Labour Party right now, he’s a card carrying member of the Communist Party in the 1980s. He was Antifa and like he was literally an Antifa and he was a communist, openly. So conservatives will call him a communist or people on the Right will call him a communist all the time. It doesn’t matter because no one on the Left is canceling him, like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we can’t let this communist, this ex-communist run our party.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Can you imagine if it was the other way around and someone was like a National Socialist in the 80s and now they’re trying to run the Conservatives, some conservative party, they’ll be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we can’t allow that to happen because this would be really bad optics.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, everyone on the Right just collectively shut the fuck up about it. It wouldn’t be bad optics. In fact, you’d get away with it. The only reason you can’t get away with it is because voices on supposedly outside of politics would criticise it. Not what the Left say. Because the Left call everyone Nazis regardless. They call Peter Dutton a Nazi, they call Donald Trump a Nazi. They call everyone, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Can I just stop that? You just hit this most important point, right? You just hit the most important point that I didn’t actually bring up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just want you to further this because this seems to be another weird thing to attack sort of your ideology at this time, when the term “<em>Nazi</em>” has been more played out than it ever, ever has!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-37240" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis-1024x678.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="424" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis-600x397.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis-768x509.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Elon-Musk-leader-of-Reform-Party-Nigel-Farage-President-of-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-US-President-Donald-Trump-and-US-Vice-President-JD-Vance-as-Nazis.jpg 1187w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So right now people are putting up posters all over London of Elon Musk dressed in SS uniform flanked by Farage and Trump saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Everyone’s a Nazi!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>See in this country, the former sort of Indian conservative establishment of Preeti Patel, Suella Braverman and Rishi Sunak, they were called Nazis! And I kind of felt that the term “<em>Nazi</em>” as an insult had lost a lot of its power and that was strengthening the nationalist cause.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s another weird reason <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> why this has came out. Sorry I butted in there, but you, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s a good point because people on the Right, like only care about what other people on the Right are saying. Unless they’re running the Right, then all of a sudden they start caring about what Left-wingers are saying. But the actual rank and file, the supporters, the Right-wing base does not give a shit about the standards of the Left and does not determine its views on that basis. So if the Right all got together and stopped punching Right, they wouldn’t turn around and go:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, why are all these Nazis getting mainstreamed?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They would just support them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically the gate-keeping function of the conservative establishment, it doesn’t just exist on the basis of the fact that a lot of them are jews and obviously subversives, or a lot of them are ex-Leftists and a lot of them are getting paid by big money donors that will stop paying them if they don’t engage in this kind of behaviour. That’s part of it, obviously a big part of it. But another part of it as well is careerism. Is people who want to establish a career on the Right, they need to signal that they’re basically able to work with this establishment. So how can you signal that? Well, the best way to signal that is to be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’m not like them!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And to basically just differentiate yourself, to take a, to pivot to the centre from the radical fringe and differentiate yourself from them in some way, shape or form to be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, no, I’m not that radical. I’m not really, I’m not a White supremacist. I just I just believe in maintaining a White majority!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Or whatever the case may be, and you’ll use all of these labels and so on to position yourself in a way that apparently make you more mainstream, palpable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But for the average guy in the street, they actually don’t give a shit about the distinction between these terms. These are terms that only matter to political nerds, that only matter to people who work in politics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:05:39]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I don’t actually think they’re that important in the grand scheme of things. What is important, however, is the way in which people denominate:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m going to stay within this safe box. I’m not going to step outside of this safe box, so you can trust me.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s all part of this deeper gate-keeping function of ideas that are capable of winning. I don’t believe that we can negotiate the policies that we want underneath this moral structure, underneath this institutional structure. I’m a radical, I’m a revolutionary! I believe that the whole thing needs to be challenged.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a lot of people will say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, I agree with you, Joel, but challenging the whole thing is going to be too difficult right now. So if we can kind of get within it and we can do a little bit of work breaking down the legitimacy of that box or shifting it gradually further and further to the Right, then we’ll move it into a position where it’ll be easier to attack, where it’ll be weaker, be more exposed to a radical revolutionary attack at some point.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, fine, you go and do that project.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But if you’re going to go and do that project, step one is don’t punch Right, then get in there and start punching left. Get in there and start beating up on the Conservatives and calling them out for what they are and refuse to acquiesce to the opposite direction, refuse to acquiesce to the ideological Leftism and so-called cancel culture and all of this kind of shit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Actually go there, in there and do your job. And there’s people that are doing that do try and go into more mainstream discourse and function in that way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think most of the time someone like Keith does try and do that. But there’s a lot of people who they’re ultimately putting what will ultimately advantage them and they’ll say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, look, I am not embracing all these radical and revolutionary ideas. So I can get platformed, I can get, I can build an audience, I’m not getting banned from all these social media companies, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That proves that this strategy is more effective because I’m not being attacked as much by the enemy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s like if you’re not being as attacked by the enemy, that means that you’ve compromised! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> So it’s kind of a ridiculous logic, like the enemy has set the rules up of this game to prevent anything radical enough to actually challenge them from coming into existence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, look, if I just obey the rules of the game, the enemy doesn’t attack me as hard. My political strategy makes more sense than yours!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that’s basically like conservatism in a nutshell. Like, a lot of the time. It’s just like rationalizing cowardice, rationalizing the path of least resistance, of gaining personal advantage at the expense of creating the actual fundamental conflict between our position and the enemy position, which is ultimately necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, this has to resolve into a radical polarisation of society where a massive portion of the White men and women of your country, where millions of them are willing to support Nazis or something equivalent to that. How are we going to get there? And if we can’t get there, I don’t believe that we’re ever going to be able to fundamentally have our values imposed upon the state in any meaningful sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ll tell you what, Joe, I got to agree with you on this bit to a large degree, and I’ve said this to other people. And people got to understand this. If you go out to the public and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We want X!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then people vote for you or don’t vote for you, okay, you know where you stand. Then if people do actually vote you in, you have a mandate to carry out whatever X was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, if you go to the public and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, we’re selling X.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And people say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we don’t want X.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You’re only going to get sort of two and a half percent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you say to yourself:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that didn’t work out. Well, let’s water this down, let’s water this down!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then over time, you start selling something that’s very different, almost completely different to what you sold originally. If, then when you do get to power, or get a whiff of power, you try to do the old switcheroo and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you voted for this, but we’re going to give you that thing that you didn’t vote for, what we started off with all the way back then when you rejected us because we were selling product X, but now we’re selling, you know, completely different thing to you at the ballot box. But now we’re in, we’re going to give you the hardcore stuff that you never voted for!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That won’t work. People would be absolutely outraged!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that’s something that people don’t understand. I think the issue that you have is that people that have gone down that softly, softly route would find it difficult to do the things that they initially set out to do before they went on the road of watering it down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:11:02]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ll give you a perfect example. Marine Le Pen’s party in France. Well, Marine Le Pen’s party in France have basically stated that if you’ve got a French passport and you love France and you salute the flag, you’re French. Well, once you’ve said that, you’re never going to bring about mass deportations or any form of re-migration because it would be impossible to do you can’t then say to people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, actually, the only people who are French are people who are ethnically French that we now define as White French people.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because you’ve already given up that ground and people never voted for you for that. People would think that was an awful thing to do you know, probably a lot of your councilors, a lot of your elected officials would be like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What are you even doing?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I do think that if you have a radical programme and you ever want to put that radical programme forward and put it into action, you actually have to sell it as what it is if you try to sell it as something different, even if you do manage to get somewhere, you will never be able to get back to where you were and Institute that radical program.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in many ways, Joel, what I’m saying is that I do have a lot of respect for you and the fact that you do have a radical programme and you’re not going to try to water that down because you understand that that wouldn’t work either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s quite funny as well, because every party that I have seen water things down, they haven’t necessarily achieve the success that they wanted to. So another great example of that is the British National Party. It achieved limited electoral success, very limited. Then eventually, when it wasn’t electorally successful, it was destroyed. And really, was it worth selling out on everything it believed in to get there and end up with nothing anyway?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I do think there is a certain honour to standing on a patch of ground, claiming it as your own and being like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we’ll stand here until the end, and if we win, we win. If we don’t. But if we win, we’re winning on our own merits.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And even for the people who want to water things down, my view is that if you want to, you need to maintain a kind of radical leadership. You need to have it at the very least within the Right-wing. You want the Right-wing base and people who are in Right-wing politics in every respect to have the maximum amount of rightward pressure, particularly obviously on the issues of race and related issues.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically you want to have a discussion that doesn’t have rules that disclude the Nazi. Why do people oppose the Nazis? They don’t oppose the Nazis or they don’t get freaked out by the Nazis because of what is Keith writing about, like how they treated Slavic people or something? Maybe if you’re in Poland, that’s the case, but in our, in the English speaking world, that isn’t what’s going on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I don’t follow Keith’s argument there because I’ve been involved in nationalism for a long time, and do you know how many Polish people I know that have attended events that could and would be described as National Socialist events? I’ve never found that really. I think that’s enough.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but sure, I’m not, I’m just saying that from the perspective of the English speaking world, that’s not what the controversy is built in the controversy fundamentally oscillates around the notion that the Nazis were the ultimate anti-semitic racist political force. And the other stigma, I guess, is to do with the authoritarian style of governance. Right. And that basically is where the stigma comes from.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So do you want a Right-wing that is willing to basically seize state power and use it against their enemies in a way that goes beyond the limits set for it by liberalism? Do you want a Right-wing that is radically racist? Do you want a Right-wing that is radically anti-semitic? Well, if you want these things, then you have to take the kind of moral training wheels off and allow us into the discourse and allow us to pressure the discourse in our direction. That’s the only way this is going to work. You’re not going to be able to cancel Nazis and also achieve those ends. Then at the very least, you’re undermining those efforts at the very least, because you’re creating the opposite pressure system.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, the other point that is often made around these subjects is that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, the thing is that White people don’t consider genocide to be moral and they get freaked out by militarism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was the term that Greg Johnson used after the stream the other night:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It scares the hoes. Being a Nazi scares the hoes!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And my response to that is obviously, huh?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Who are the hoes?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s a phrase like “<em>scaring the hoes</em>”. You never heard that before?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, mate, we say it’s like “<em>spooks the cattle</em>” or something like that. We’re British here, we don’t use words like “<em>hoes</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Okay, well, it’s a funny phrase anyway.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Gardening. A hoe is a gardening tool, my friend. It is not a we’re not in the ghetto tonight. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:16:52]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But anyway. Yeah, but what my response to Greg was that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, there’s not going to be any non-hoe scaring solution to this.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, we’re talking about an existential battle for the survival of our race. Taking on the entire political establishment, taking on the people who run the world and defeating them. It’s going to require militancy, it’s going to require aggression!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you don’t have that, you actually don’t have a basis for people who actually believe in you! Because you’re not actually projecting a sense of power or authority, or a fighting spirit. That’s what’s necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If all you are a bunch of nerds in suits with ideas and with arguments, well, that isn’t actually the foundation of power. Like, you need to have good arguments. You need to be well presented. What you also need to have is a willingness to fight, a willingness to struggle, a willingness to suffer, a willingness to make sacrifices, and an aggression!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you need to have a that needs to be rooted in what is fundamentally a confrontation with existential reality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The problem that White people face most fundamentally is not that they don’t have the right ideas. It’s that they’re too cowardly to even come to the obvious conclusion. Because the obvious conclusion has very scary ramifications. If you accept the fact that we are ruled by traitors and hostile alien elements that hate us and want us dead as a people, that are purposefully executing a plan to eradicate our race from existence, and that basically there’s nobody in politics that really has our back, and that we have to build a grassroots movement from scratch under a hostile government to overthrow and resist it to the point that we can regain our existence. If you have to accept that reality, which is the reality, if you don’t accept that’s reality, you’re wrong. That’s the reality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you’re going to accept that you live in that world. That’s a scary world! That’s a very scary world to live in. That’s not something that makes you feel good. Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so it feels a lot better to believe that isn’t necessarily the case, that actually:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we just need to win the argument. Oh, we just need a better marketing strategy or whatever.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Particularly if you’re a weak cunt, like if you’re a low testosterone male, you are going to be less likely to be able to accept reality because you are biologically predisposed to being more of a herd animal. You’re more afraid of standing against the collective, you’re more afraid of conflict, you’re more conflict avoidant.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so you’re going to naturally psychologically bias towards a conflict avoidant strategy. And a sense of reality where:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, these people just aren’t making the right arguments! If you just made the right arguments, if you just said the correct assembly of words like what I say, then the people that hate us would be defeated in the battleground of ideas and we would win!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, no, no! The problem is that White people aren’t fucking fighting back! The problem is that our race are a bunch of pussies! Fundamentally! That every single day, millions of White people around the world make the decision to turn the blind eye, to take the paycheck, to keep their head down because they don’t want to pay the costs of sticking their head up and resisting. That’s why we’re in this fucking position! So many of our ancestors took the jew money or they, as I said, they basically let an insult on their honour occur and just let it happen. They didn’t react! And a whole series of those decisions were made again and again and again and again, to we get here!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s why we’re in the position that we’re in. It’s our own fucking fault! It’s our own weakness fundamentally. It’s not because White people haven’t been convinced that it’s moral necessarily for them to continue existing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The reality is that most White people like existing and don’t really like immigration and so on. It’s that they’re too scared to come to the conclusions that that implies. You know, so that’s what we need a movement that inspires people to have courage. It inspires people to express honour, that galvanises people and provides solidarity. Where if, okay, maybe when you’re the only guy that’s kind of standing up, that’s more scary, but if you’re standing up and you’re surrounded by brothers who are organised at scale, standing up beside you have a lot more confidence to stand up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s about how do we bring confidence back to the White man? How do we deal with this White demoralisation? How do, how do we deal with this White cowardice? To me, that’s what the movement is fundamentally about, in a kind of spiritual and cultural sense. It’s not about how do we have the best argument why mass immigration sucks! We’ve already won all those fucking arguments! The majority of people are against mass immigration. Everyone can see the society is failing. The current system has never been this illegitimate.</p>
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<p>It’s not a question of arguments anymore, in my view, or it never was. It’s about creating a psychological and spiritual state to actually receive the world view and act on the worldview. And I would say I would finish with this as well. There are millions of Australians that have White nationalist or White nationalist adjacent views. How many of them do anything about it? That’s the issue! Is that they’re not actually fucking doing anything! It doesn’t matter that they’ve been convinced. If you convince someone the jews are running the media and running the banks and the White race is being replaced and they go:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, that makes sense. I can see that.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then they just go back to work the next day and then turn the football on, and take the Mrs on a holiday and send their 2.3 <span style="color: #008000;">[1.3]</span> kids to the local school and they just continue on watching reality TV shows.</p>
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<p>And what does it matter what they think in their brain? It’s not actually actualizing into a different way of life. It’s not turning into political resistance.</p>
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<p>So everyone wants to convince these passive voters that maybe we’ll vote for a nationalist party if it was marketed to them in the right way under certain conditions. I want to appeal to people who are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, come and join me in the struggle for our existence. Devote your life to it!”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s what I’m doing. That’s what we actually need. I need fucking voters. I don’t need opinions. I need fighters. We need fighters!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:23:38]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I mean, obviously by “<em>fighters</em>” you mean political fighters. People who are going to do things lawfully.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Anyway, look, let’s do the Superchats. If you haven’t Superchatted yet and you want to do the Superchat, please do you can donate via Odysee or Entropy. We’ll be reading all those out now. We’ve got about 35 minutes left. The first Superchat is one that was sent to me by a guy called SR, who gave $30. Thank you so much! And it’s something I wanted to raise first and separately with you, Joel, because I do have one disagreement with you on this.</p>
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<p>You do talk about National Socialism a lot and about your belief system, which I respect. But one thing you seem very down on is working with other ethnic groups who are also National Socialists. Now I’ve always seen National Socialism as a movement.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> You mean non-Whites. Obviously I support working with other White ethnic groups. Obviously.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, you don’t support working with non-White or other ethnic groups that are National Socialists. Now one thing, I’ve always found this a little bit strange because people like Hitler, George Lincoln, Rockwell, they obviously did. And I firmly believe that we should work with other ethnic groups that want peaceful separation.</p>
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<p>And I also believe that if you look at National Socialism fundamental strands that I opened the show discussing, where I said there’s the national and there is the social, that does apply to everybody.</p>
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<p>So if you went to say a country in the Middle East or you know, a country in the Far East, and those people wanted a homogeneous, closed bordered society where their people worked hand in hand to do the best for them and obviously accept expressed their culture. You see, and I think people like sort of David Duke, Kevin MacDonald, many others would agree with me when I say this, that really we do want a multicultural world, but we just want everyone in their own place, in their own homelands. And we want sort of a world of independent, proud people that celebrate their own cultures. We just don’t want all of that on our soil.</p>
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<p>Obviously we do have a time limit tonight. I’m sure you and I could debate this all night long, but I do think it’s kind of slightly antithetical to sort of National Socialism as an ideology to oppose other ethnic groups that agree with that agree sort of with the idea of peaceful separation and that everyone should have their own place in the world.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And my position has never been that we can’t have good relations with non-White countries.</p>
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<p>Like for example, Australia has a very strong military alliance with Japan. After the United States, they’re probably our second most important military ally because of the fact that we share a region and various other reasons. And I wholeheartedly support that and I actually respect Japanese culture as well in many respects. But even if I didn’t, from a practical standpoint, that’s what’s in Australia’s interests, is to have a strong alliance with Japan. Well, obviously, once great enemies, we fought World War II against each other, but now that’s how I see it.</p>
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<p>So I’m not opposed to that on the basis of like some kind of trivial racism. But within Australian politics or within the politics of any White country, what is fundamentally awry with Whites is that Whites can’t figure out how to do anything themselves. Like, just yesterday I went to a Celtic festival, right? It was celebrating Scottish and Irish culture, obviously the weekend after St. Patrick’s Day. Maybe that’s why they organised it. It was more Scottish than Irish, this particular festival. And the kilts were on and bagpipes were going. They’re doing Scottish strongman competitions and things like that.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I’m watching the bagpipes and there’s these dudes that are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I really value my Scottish ancestry. And I got the whole regalia with the long socks and I’ve learnt how to play bagpipes. I’m in this bagpipe playing collective or whatever, and we’re marching around in time playing bagpipes.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then he walks over to his Asian girlfriend or wife or something. And it’s like, so that’s how important your Scottish ancestry is to you, is it, mate? And then I see like a fucking Indian guy next to him with the bagpipe looking, like completely out of place next to all these like ginger dudes and stuff.</p>
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<p>And it’s like, what the fuck are we doing here? Can we just have fucking bagpipes? No, we can’t have bagpipes! We’ve got to share the fucking bagpipes on the Celtic festival day with fucking Indians! Like, White people need to have our own shit!</p>
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<p>We need to have in particular our own political representation where it’s just for us! We can’t have a political party or we can’t have a political lobby group or some kind of political representation if we can’t even have that, where it’s just for us. How the fuck are we going to have a country just for us? That’s step one! We should be able to have an organisation where only we can be apart and everyone else, too fucking bad! You’re not involved. This is for us, it’s not for you. If we can’t be exclusionary on some level, how are we going to build an exclusionary politics? It doesn’t make any sense.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:28:58]</span></p>
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<p>Now, that doesn’t mean that, as I said, non-White groups in other countries we can’t have a peaceful amicable relationship. But if they’re in another country, they can’t really do that much to help us on a domestic level, they really can’t. When we seize state power or something, then we can have an amicable relationship.</p>
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<p>But in the process of our domestic political scenario, all that’s relevant is can we get White people organised at scale? That’s all that’s actually relevant. If we can take the country back. If we can’t take the country back. Everything else is a fucking distraction! If we’ve got, if we can only organise like a tiny portion of Whites and we’re going and wasting our time going and meeting with like some random group of Muslims and some random group of blacks and so on that are completely irrelevant to our struggle, it’s like, what are we fucking doing here? We should be going out and meeting with Whites. We should be going out and working and building up White communities, talking to Whites, converting Whites to our worldview, organising Whites into our organisation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>White power is the name of the fucking game. This is a movement for self-determination! That means it’s a movement that we, where we are determining our own destiny has to come from our strength. And if White people are constantly looking to non-Whites for help or for solutions and being inclusive towards them, it’s just reproducing the same fundamental problem., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I think you’re misrepresenting the argument. It’s not about being inclusive. You’re sort of getting very worked up about inclusivity and things like that it’s not about being inclusive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ll tell you this now, Joel, and this is a fact, right? I could introduce you to a hundred Whites, okay, and you could explain your belief of National Socialism, what you think it is, and try and sell it to them. And then I could sit you with a hundred, say, blacks or Asians, and you could explain the same. And I bet per capita you’d get more ethnic minorities saying that’s a reasonable argument than you would with Whites.</p>
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<p>And I’ll tell you this now, and this might be a hard pill to swallow, but I’ve gone and met black people who’ve invited me on their podcasts. I’ve discussed things with people from other groups and cultures. And when they talk to me, they never call me a Nazi or they never like have a go at me. When they inquire about our views, they are genuinely interested to hear what we say. And often the most pushback I get and the most screeching of the word “<em>Nazi</em>” is actually from brainwashed Whites.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying this because I want to get in this debate now. I mean, I’d love to do a debate with you on this at some time. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> It might be fun if people want that, you know. But what I’m saying, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Mark, I’ve met heaps of non-Whites and I say this stuff and I’ve been pretty consistent about this. I literally go on my stream and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If you’re non-White, turn the stream off. I don’t want you watching my streams. Get out of the live chat!”</span></h3>
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<p>They still do it. They still do it, right? So it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter how racist I get. There’s still a bunch of non-Whites that are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“This White guy is cooking!”</span></h3>
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<p>So what? What are they going to do to help?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Joel, I think what you’re saying here is also antithetical to your cause, and I’ll tell you why. When I’ve seen the National Socialists, they were impeccably well dressed, very well spoken, very, very polite and they wouldn’t address people in that manner.</p>
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<p>And I think in selling what you’re trying to sell, taking the kind of David Duke road is the better route. Now I think if you look at David Duke, he’s probably, well, he is the most famous and prominent post-war White nationalist, you know, post the man with the mustache. Duke is the big man! And I don’t think anyone has been more popular amongst Arabs, amongst different White ethnic groups and even amongst blacks than David Duke. David Duke is somebody who’s respected by people of different racial groups all over the world for what he pushes.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s more, &#8230; When I first got involved with the BNP there was this heavy National Socialist undercurrent in the organisation. But everybody there saw, they didn’t see non-Whites as just a simple sort of like enemy. And I think that’s a counterpoint., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m not saying, but I’m not saying that they’re all enemies. What I’m saying is that I want to have a space where White people organise our own politics amongst ourselves.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I’m not saying you shouldn’t have that.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m trying to practice, I’m just trying to practice my ideas. Because <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> they’re not part of it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> The Superchat was more about working with people.</p>
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<p>And when I see people like George Lincoln, Rockwell who work with Nation of Islam and stuff. I’ve always seen National Socialism as a movement that will work with people from other ethnic groups as long as they are ideologically coherent.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> What ones that live in our countries?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, the fact is, the way we are, the way it is now is, unfortunately, there is a reality to this.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> If they support us, if they really support us, they wouldn’t live in our countries. They just move home. It’s not that fucking hard!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:34:46]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I don’t think it’s as simple as that.</p>
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<p>And I think one of the things that we would have to do moving forward if we were to get to a position where we held real power and real sway amongst the Whites in our nation is you would need to sit down with people from other ethnic groups and plot a way to chart peaceful separation. Because it ain’t gonna be a matter of, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, okay. When we’ve got a serious amount of Whites organised and we have a serious political movement and we actually have strength and we actually can say we speak on behalf of Whites because we’ve got enough support and we got a chance of taking political power, then we can sit down with these groups and try and work out how we can send them back in a way that’s reasonable for everyone. But why are we doing it now? Just a complete waste of time right now. We’re not anywhere near that position where that becomes relevant.</p>
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<p>What we need to be focusing upon now is ourselves and getting ourselves organised and creating spaces where White people can talk about what’s in White interests amongst ourselves, where everyone else is excluded. We’ll let you know when we’re ready to have a chat. Is my view.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know, it was interesting because before the Syrian government fell in Syria, I actually did a stream with one of the with one of the very influential men from the Syrian government, and he agreed overwhelmingly with the points that we were making and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look you should be sending back all the Syrians that came to your country.”</span></h3>
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<p>He said that. And I do think that politeness and a willingness to sort of work with other people who want peaceful separation is far more in line historically with what National Socialism was.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m not saying we should be impolite. I don’t think it’s just, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Otherwise, you just become sort of this like pastiche of National Socialism where you’re walking down the street with your tattoos on your face and your bother boots on and you’re shouting at people and it’s basically all you expect at that point is Steven Spielberg to pop out from a lamp post and shout:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Lights, camera, action!”</span></h3>
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<p>And it goes on the TV and it’s kind of like negative reinforcement of what, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s not negative. My worldview is very simple. I believe White people collectively have the strength to control our own destinies. And all that is required is for us to have the self consciousness and strength of will to do. So that’s my message. We don’t actually need any of these other groups’ help. We actually don’t need their help. That doesn’t mean that I want to kill them all. We don’t need their help. We need our own help!</p>
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<p>So when we start helping ourselves and we get strong, then from a position of strength we can sit down at the table and try and work out and negotiate, what’s ours and what isn’t ours with these other groups. But we’re not in a position to sit down and have that negotiation yet.</p>
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<p>So it’s an utterly pointless waste of time and a lot of energy. I’ve seen this from people like, I don’t want to name names. I know that for example, Lucas Gage is kind of, we had debates like this back in the day and he’s kind of recognised like a shift in strategy is needed to a large extent. But all this energy went into trying to convince all these non-Whites that jews are the real enemy, not Whites and they should ally with us and so on. And it all amounts to nothing.</p>
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<p>Because at the end of the day, they have their own people, they have their own perspective, they have their own concerns. And if they were more concerned about us than their own people, there’d have to be something wrong with them.</p>
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<p>So there’s no point sitting down and negotiating with them from position of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Empathize with us! Poor Whitey. We need, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>Like that’s fundamentally weak and it’s ridiculous! We want to develop strength!</p>
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<p>And then we can sit down from a position of strength and say, these are our interests. Here’s the benefits of cooperating with us and going along with us. And here’s what happens if you don’t cooperate with us. What would you like to do? And we can sit down as gentlemen and be very rational about it and very gentlemanly and everyone can wear suits and shake hands and no one’s calling each other names. That’s what I want to do.</p>
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<p>But I see so much time wasted in this movement from banging on about how we stand with the Palestinians and we stand with the Syrians and obviously we oppose Israel, we don’t want to support Israel, the parasite that is Israel and zionism.</p>
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<p>But at the same time I actually, it’s kind of their problem at the end of the day, that’s their side of the world. I care about my countries or our countries, I care about our people and securing our future. That’s what I’m focused on. I’m not focused upon giving all of this moral and emotional energy to non-Whites. That is really the problem with Whites. We’ve given way too much moral and emotional energy to others and nowhere near enough to ourselves! I am the person that comes along and says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“That’s fundamentally wrong! I’m going to have a pure version of my worldview and express it to you.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because I fundamentally have confidence in our own race. I don’t think we need anybody else, we don’t need anybody else to achieve what is necessary. If we get Whites organised in Australia at scale, we take Australia back. Same thing in Britain, same thing everywhere else.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:40:16]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ll say this. I’ll say this right, I respect your optimism, but this is where I fear that you’re going wrong, in that you said something there about sort of, who cares about the Israeli issue, who cares about this? I’ll tell you this now, if you don’t cut the strings on your puppet politicians that are all dancing to the Israeli tune because that’s who hold the strings is Israel, then you’re never ever going to be free.</p>
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<p>And one of the things, one of the reasons why I thought this was an interesting debate tonight is because the vast majority of people who are, I’m not saying all, but the vast majority of people who are antithetical to everything you’re saying, who are opposed to everything that you are, Joel, are busy cucking on this issue whilst all sucking up to the Zionists!</p>
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<p>And you know why I believe that you were kicked off TwitterX It wasn’t because, you’re pro-White, it’s because you’re NS and that’s the step they don’t want to allow. It’s because you weren’t one of the people saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ll look, if we just get rid of the Muslims and treat them really badly and shout rude words at them, everything will be fixed. Hey!”</span></h3>
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<p>Which is what the people on Twitter and X say in abundance. And I’m just saying I’m not saying that we need to be friends with everyone, but the fact is most, most, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’ve talked to non-Whites before. I’ve had plenty of amicable chats with non-Whites who are woke on the jews or whatever.</p>
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<p>But what I’m saying is I don’t think you can really build a politics out of these conversations. The politics that we can build is White people coming together for White interests. That’s the politics I believe in.</p>
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<p>So that’s the name of the game!</p>
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<p>And I think too much energy gets wasted if you deviate from that too far. That doesn’t mean, it doesn’t mean being rude to non-Whites, particularly ones that are sympathetic. I’ve met sympathetic Asians, blacks, Arabs, whatever. And I don’t call them slurs and like punch them in the face or something. I’m a supreme gentleman. But they’re not coming to the NSN rally. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know, they’re not coming to the, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’m not asking that, but the reason you’re not on, if you look at the groups that have been banned off X, if you look at the individuals that have been banned off X, they’re all people that went beyond what is the confirmed and allowed parameters. And the confirmed and allowed parameters on that godforsaken platform, are that ultimately you can be pro-your own country as long as you’re pro-your country being ruled by Zionists in Israel. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yes, of course.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And by taking the stance you took, &#8230; You see the problem with NS and what they feel fear about National Socialism is National Socialism by its very definition is anti-being ruled by Israel. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Of course.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s anti-being ruled by anybody that is from another group.</p>
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<p>And the fact is they don’t mind on X now, if you advocate for sort of a White America, or a White Britain, a as long as that White America or largely White Britain is still being ruled by a little fiefdom in the Middle East.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But they also don’t mind if you advocate for Palestine like a Leftist, on the basis of the poor Palestinians and look at what’s happening to them.</p>
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<p>The distinction between my view is that I oppose Israel and zionism not on the basis of sympathy with Palestinians, but on the basis of asserting White interests. We gain absolutely nothing from Israel! We gain absolutely nothing from our support of zionism! And we, our entire political system has been hijacked by it. How much blood and treasure have we expended in invading Iraq and all this other nonsense that has absolutely zero benefit to us? And Zionists control the media. Zionists control the political process, even in Australia.</p>
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<p>So I speak about it from the basis of Australian interests, White interests, not from the perspective of sympathy with Palestine or Syria. Because the thing is, number one, that’s the fundamentally wrong orientation. We should be relativizing everything in politics towards what’s good for us. That’s nationalism.</p>
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<p>Number two, also there’s another idea which is that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, yeah, we don’t really care about Palestine or we don’t really care about Syrians, but we should pretend to because at the moment it’s going to cause problems for jews, right? So we should pretend to?”</span></h3>
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<p>And my response to that is not only do I dislike playing games, like manipulative games, I believe in authenticity. But number two, the average patriotic White guy that I know, doesn’t give a shit about fucking Palestine or Syrians. They don’t like Muslims in general.</p>
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<p>And so if I start positioning myself like a Leftist, pretending that I care about these things, they’re actually going to get turned off and I’m actually pushing them into the arms of the Tommy Robinsons of the, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Joel! Joel! Right, you see, this is where, if you don’t mind me saying, your argument kind of falls to pieces.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because if you’re saying you can’t take a principled stand over Palestinian children being killed because it might turn off Grug nationalists, well, you know what also turns off Grug nationalists? Hitler and swastikas. So if now we’re trying to appeal to the Grug nationalists with:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, let the Israelis bomb Palestinian schools, I’m not going to say anything about that.”</span></h3>
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<p>You might as well drop your Swazi and your NS stuff as well because that also turns off Grug nationalists.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:46:25]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Not really. What I’m saying is that what the perspective that they haven’t heard, what they’ve heard is “<em>fuck Muslims</em>” on one side and then on the other side “<em>it’s a jew Muslim dispute and should we sympathize with the jews or should we sympathize with the Muslims?</em>” I’m coming along with the Third Position of “<em>let’s sympathize with ourselves</em>”. We don’t have to pick jew or Muslim. We can pick us! And that is the correct position. Right? Because fundamentally it’s a movement for us. We’re not a Muslim movement, not a jewish movement. We’re a movement for White people. So I’m coming along with that position and saying:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, let’s get outside of that false dichotomy. Let’s take our own side here.”</span></h3>
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<p>That’s actually a very compelling message that has a lot of appeal, I think, actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s important to deal with the anti-Muslim, pro-jewish element on the Right, which we’re directly competing with, in particular.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thirdly, it’s actually what I really believe. None of us are willing to go. Maybe some people are idiotic enough to be doing to do this, I don’t know. But pretty much none of us are willing to actually go and fight for any of these Muslim countries in their struggles of national independence or contribute anything really of that much significance beyond firing off a few tweets of moral support.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, we’re willing to fight and die for our countries. So let’s just be honest here! Let’s just be honest here and just, and talk about it in terms of our interests and in our nation. We don’t need to go and adjudicate genocides on the other side of the planet. Is everyone getting that passionate about the morality of the Rwandan genocide or what the Azerbaijanis are doing to the Armenians or what the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs? No! No one’s getting that passionate about any of that. You’re pretending to care about the Palestinians because you hate jews, which is, I understand it, that’s fine, that’s great! But on a certain level. But on another level, it’s like, let’s be real here. We don’t actually give a shit about Palestinians. We actually don’t. We’re just pretending to, because we don’t like Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So why don’t we just talk about the real reasons why we don’t like Israel, the pro-White reasons, and just cut the bullshit!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I don’t think it is bullshit! I think, having a decent, rounded worldview is part of the National Socialist mindset. I think part of the National Socialist mindset historically was having a rounded worldview. And all I’m saying is that I don’t want to see my people genocided. I don’t want to see millions of people coming here from all over the world and wiping out indigenous Brits. But nor do I want to see Israeli jets wiping out Palestinians, and nor do I want to see Israel destabilising the Middle East for the 20th time and millions more Muslims pouring out of the Middle East into countries like Britain, Germany, and France!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But it wasn’t Israel doing it, you wouldn’t care, Mark. Like, if it was Egypt doing it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, of course I’d care if it was anyone doing it. And it’s creating an endless stream of people who are then funneled into Europe. I don’t want it happening. You see, I don’t want Western countries selling weapons to Africa so that they destabilise their countries and then all the people coming flowing here. What you want is a world where there are defined borders, people have a place in the world. And you’re constantly not kicking hornets nests. Because those hornets nests, when they’re kicked, it’s our kids that end up getting stung.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And fundamentally I think that when I see what jews do, and to say that I don’t care who does its completely wrong! You know, if you look at my history, my political history, I oppose the war in Iraq. I oppose the war in Afghanistan. I opposed American invasions of numerous countries. Why? Because I think all of this is part of sort of a wider, sort of globalist, internationalist agenda, which isn’t good for White people either. You know, ultimately the most important thing is what is good for White people.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. Good for White people. That’s why we should oppose on the basis of its bad for us, rather than going on about, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But Israel’s dominance in the Middle East is bad for White people!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I agree. We’re not disagreeing about opposing Israel, obviously. What are the reasons? Like, how are we framing it? You know, I just believe in framing things.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s bad for White people. Because if you, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, exactly! But that’s what I’m saying. Bang on about the poor Palestinians all the time. I’m not saying you do this.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No. What was the first thing that Israel demanded when they wanted to empty the whole of Gaza?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The first thing they did was meet people like Tony Blair and talk about sending 2 million Palestinians to Europe. It’d be disastrous! We’re on the knife edge. Why would you want any more of them here? You know, I oppose Israel’s dominance in the Middle East. It’s bad for White people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I also don’t like seeing pictures of Palestinian babies with their limbs blown off. As a father, that sickens me! And people who can do that are just demonic! There is that aspect.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, okay, but like I’m, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But I don’t want to go around seeing children blown to pieces by sort of demonic warmongering Zionists who think it’s hilarious and then want to sell up the little bit of land that they used to have to build condos on so Trump and his stupid son-in-law can rub their greedy hands and make another real estate deal.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:52:20]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I mean that’s all fine and reasonable, but nevertheless, I think you can also see what I’m saying here, which is that I think we need to anchor our politics just fundamentally in ourselves and our own interests. And what are we actually concretely willing to fight for, and not. Because there’s been this attitude that’s been too pervasive of this world police attitude where we’ve got to morally dictate to all of these non-White countries what they’re like, how their political systems need to be structured, which is a way to anchor us into these foreign conflicts. And I know you’re opposing things. I know you’re taking the opposite view to the Americans.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You are totally wrong in what you’re saying.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> What?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> The whole world police mentality comes from Israel. The whole world police., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> We had two wars with Iraq, with the globalist American system run by Israel being the world police! I’m not saying we need to be the world police. I’m saying we need to morally oppose foreign invasions, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But the Left-wing, Right-wing distinction in the mainstream has been either you sympathize with this set of foreign victims or this set of foreign victims. Like we ought to take its side in these, in all of these foreign conflicts where there’s one side that the Leftists like and one side that the Zionists like. And then it flips back and forth between who we’re supporting and it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know what? Fuck all this bullshit! Australia first, America First, whatever, right?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Our military and our, and our money and our blood should be expended when we are attacked, when our people are attacked to defend us and nothing else! That is what we need to say, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, you just said screw the world police mentality. The world police mentality is the globalist Zionist mentality where White soldiers are used to go to places like Iraq where they either die, come back with some kind of PTSD, or their legs and arms missing to serve the Zionist agenda.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I don’t want to become like some communist foreign policy where we just have the foreign policy of the Soviet Union, if it still existed or something, and we just, whatever the brown people that the Zionist Americans support, we support the other group of brown people and we play all these like team sports and waving all these weird foreign flags from countries don’t even understand the language of it just becomes utterly contrived and alienating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s also disingenuous. We don’t actually give a shit, on a fundamental level. We’re not willing to go and fight for it like we are for our own country. So why can’t we just anchor it in nationalism, and ourselves?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> But what are you talking about?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Ike that’s a way better approach.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What I’m saying is nationalism is a non-Aggression. We anchor what we’re doing in what’s best for us. What’s best for us isn’t going out and being the global police for the Zionist state of Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, but it’s also not investing all of your emotional energy in the plight of other foreign peoples that are the victims in these narratives either. We’ve got to invest our emotional energy and our advocacy in our own people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that means like you only have a certain amount of care, you only have a certain amount of love you can feel as a human being. You have a finite amount of energy. I believe in investing 100% of that in ourselves. That is going to secure our future.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What bit of not investing time and energy in ourselves is being supportive of these wars? Opposing these foreign wars is being supportive of White people, because we are the ones who pay for them.</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I’m saying I oppose the wars. I’m just saying I should oppose them. The reasons that we list, we should just list pro-White reasons. That’s all I’m saying. We should oppose them from a pro-White perspective. That’s all I’m saying.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So at no point in your world do you look at those Palestinian kids being blown to pieces and think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s also another good reason to oppose it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>You know, seeing babies have their limbs blown off, that’s not a good reason as well. I mean I’ve said like it’s bad because we pay for.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s just kind of like an emotional thing. Like I tried to look at things in a very rational way. Like at the end of the day horrible things happen all over the world all the time. I can’t care about all of them. I have to decide what I care about what I don’t care about. Even though there’s horrible things, it’s like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, if that was me, that would be horrible!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like you can empathize, but at the end of the day, I don’t consider the plight of the Palestinian people to be my problem. I’m not Muslim, I’m not Palestinian, they’re not my people. I care about my people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I wouldn’t be willing to go and do anything about it in a direct sense. I would be willing to do something about it in the sense of opposing Israel on the basis of liberating our people from the yoke of their occupational influence over our government institutions. I obviously completely oppose supporting Israel in every possible conceivable direction.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:57:31]</span></p>
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<p>And actually if we just cut Israel off from a pro-White perspective in our countries and let the Muslims have their way with them, and sit back with the popcorn and enjoy the destruction of Israel, obviously. Right? Because that’s what would happen. They only exist because of their parasitism upon us, because we defend them. If we remove our security guarantees and stop giving them money and weapons and sending our people to go and fight in wars for them, they’re fucked! So that’s a situation I’ll be very happy with and then if you see a bunch of Israeli children with their limbs blown off, are we going to be crying about that too? No, we’re not going to be crying about it because at the end of the day, they’re not our fucking people! They made their bed, they lie in it. It’s their problem. Whether they’re right or wrong, it’s their fucking problem!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So for me, I care about White children and a future for White children and that’s that. And you could say that’s kind of harsh. But you have to draw the line somewhere in life.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s the same thing of I have children, I’m going to care a hell of a lot more about them. Like if my kid breaks his arm, it’s going to be the biggest deal in the world and I’ve got to make sure he gets to the hospital and I take care of the kid and so on. If some random kid breaks their arm, I’ll help him and do first aid and call the ambulance or whatever, maybe call the hospital and check on him. But I’m not going to like basically preside over his entire recovery process because he’s not my kid, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So like there’s like, there’s scales of concern that you can have for others. And at a certain point, you reach the point where if a kid breaks his arm in Perth, on the other side of the country, okay, well, some kid broke his arm in Perth. Like, I can’t. I don’t really give a fuck, right. It’s nothing to do with me. On a certain level, it’s sad that kids break their arms sometimes, but you stop caring at a certain point. You know, your obligations end, your responsibilities end as a human being at a certain point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it’s important that we reinforce that, because that’s really fundamental to the nationalist worldview and what’s been perverted in the minds of Whites through the way the media portrays things and the way that a lot of these discussions are carried out, where they’re carried out in these universal humanitarian language all the time, as opposed to carrying them out in terms of what are our interests, what are our responsibilities, who we are ultimately defending, and what’s beyond the scope of our responsibility. And that’s all I’m advocating for.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I can tell you this now. Every single nationalist movement in the world that was an ethno-nationalist movement at the time when there was the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, were completely opposed to those and were completely opposed to that judeo-American globalism for a variety of different reasons. But if you’re not, you’re not, and that’s it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’ll move on to the next question. ThinRedLine gave $14 and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Great discussion Joel. Have you asked Keith for debate?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, a few people reached out, including Elijah Schaffer wanted to host the debate. You wanted to host the debate. And so I brought it up to him, and then he was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you know, it could be good for exposure, but I don’t know if I really want to be like positioning myself as attacking our own side or something.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which I don’t know how that really makes sense when, like, you started the debate, like, why not? Why not finish it? Like, if we’re gonna do these essays, and he put another essay out today, another essay on the same subject, which is good. I like doing the essay stuff, but it’s like, surely let’s actually hammer it out in a debate. I think a lot of people would tune in for that. I think, particularly because Keith and I are longtime associates, it’d be interesting.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> The difference between a debate and writing an essay is a debate is a proper race where you’re out in the fresh air and you’re running against somebody who’s running hard against you. Writing an article and sticking up it online, he’s just doing a time trial on an indoor track. You know, it’s easy, it’s safe, and you avoid sort of any conflict or embarrassment and you minimise the number of variables that can go wrong.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So ultimately you don’t end up falling flat on your face or being publicly humiliated by coming second, 3rd, 4th, or being, you know, everyone’s saying you didn’t do so well. Because all you do is keep doing your time trial until you get the result you think is good enough to post online. You do that, everyone claps and it’s very controlled.</p>
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<p>I think a lot of people fear debate because debate isn’t as controlled. Debate, you can throw some curveballs in there and that can be embarrassing for people.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I don’t think it’s necessarily embarrassing. Like obviously he feels his position is correct. So he feels, he has the arguments. Obviously I feel the same way. So like, why not test it? And a gentlemanly debate, obviously.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:02:21]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s what I’m saying. Test it. That’s what I’m saying. It needs to be tested. Simply writing sort of like letters to each other online I don’t think is as instructive or as fun as a debate. And if Elijah Schaffer says he’s going to do it, he’s got a fantastic platform. You should do it on there. Simple.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thin Red line. Okay, we’re gonna have to get through these Superchats because we’re past the two hour mark now. ThinRedLine gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We can’t have ethno-nationalism without taking down the myths surrounding World War II, because every time you ask for closed borders or re-migration, yours will be met by this is NS and it will lead to the Holocaust!”</span></h3>
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<p>I agree with that.</p>
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<p>I’ve got to say this, and this is another reason why I find it so interesting that Keith came out with this now, I don’t think there’s been more, I don’t think in my lifetime there’s ever been more sort of public condemnation of sort of the Holocaust narrative and public questioning of the Holocaust narrative as there is now.</p>
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<p>And I think the questioning of that, and I don’t think anyone says like nothing happened whatsoever! But the questioning of the Holocaust industry, the questioning of the more salacious stories that surround the Holocaust, I think is something which you know, does demystify this whole “<em>nationalism bad because it leads to this</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, I find it interesting that at a time when this is happening, this is being said. What do you think about that? About the sort of demystifying of the Holocaust and the fact that is something that fundamentally has always held back post-war nationalism?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, absolutely! It’s a key component. It’s also obviously a reinforcement of specifically why you can’t criticise jewish power, that like if you criticise jews that that is somehow the first domino in the second Holocaust or something. And so it creates this injunction that gives them all these special exemptions to get away with what they get away with without critique, or at least like public mainstream critique. And that obviously is really melting it down in a big way because I think jewish power is becoming so explicit now that there seems to be a lot of awakening to it and a lot of people are starting to break ranks and start to talk about it in at least in a controlled sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so then obviously the Holocaust gets brought up and therefore a lot more critical discussion around the Holocaust is taking place. And the Holocaust narrative obviously is very flimsy and it hasn’t actually stood up to a open, fair, reasonable public scrutiny because that hasn’t been allowed to take place. In most countries in Europe it’s not even legal to question it. And in the places where it is legal, like here or in Britain or in America if you want to be a historian that works in university and gets your books published by a mainstream publisher or whatever, and have a successful career as a historian, if you touch Holocaust revisionism, you can forget about that, right?</p>
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<p>So even though you can technically still do it and you won’t get thrown in prison, nevertheless it’s career suicide! And so there’s a massive injunction.</p>
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<p>And also people then who do take a Holocaust revisionist narrative, no one’s going to platform them to have debates against the regular historians. And the regular historians will gatekeep them out and won’t debate them and so on and so it’s very difficult for there to have an open and Frank public discourse. And as soon as anyone weighs into this subject, it’s super controversial and doesn’t take place.</p>
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<p>If you had a completely controversy, free, open, rational space where this could be debated, it would crumble, right? It would completely crumble! You know, chimneys that aren’t connected, wooden doors. I mean, the list goes on. I mean, it’s ridiculous! So it can’t stand up to scrutiny.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So even if, when it gets a little bit of critical light shone on it, people do a few Google searches and think critically a little bit, and they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wait, wait a second, this is all bullshit!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And particularly when you can see the political role that it’s being leveraged for. Like it’s an idea that creates political power for a particular group. So you should always be sceptical of that. When an idea is being leveraged to generate a particular political outcome, well then you can’t just take it at face value. Which is quite obvious. And I think a lot of people can sense that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I’m noticing a big shift where like older people as well, you know, older people in my life, in my friend’s life who were banging on about how the Holocaust was bullshit five years ago, ten years ago, and they weren’t having a bar of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now they’re like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh I saw this documentary and did you know this?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And then now they’re bringing up all these Holocaust revisionist facts and like weighing into the subject. There seemed to be a shift in the mood, which is obviously a very good thing. And at this point, White Identity Politics is going mainstream in many respects, at least in a discursive sense. Critical discourse of jewish power is going mainstream, at least in a discursive sense.</p>
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<p>The only thing really that’s left is the rehabilitation of National Socialism itself being pushed into the mainstream. That’s really the last and most robust discursive gate-keeping that still exists. And so insofar as people like us that are trying to like push that across the line, it’s really about breaking that enemy control of the discourse. Even if you don’t agree with National Socialism, if you’re at least on our side, you should at least get out of the way and allow us to try and like push that through. Or actually you should be helping! Because open discussion space where we can at least consider National Socialism rationally and openly, even if you are critical of it, is still better for us than what currently exists.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:08:21]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, we’ve got another question from It Was Made Up who gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s one thing missing from this conversation and that’s Keith. Do you think he’ll do a stream with you about this? He seemed to be indicate he wanted to put this to bed today. With his SubStack today. So maybe not.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, we’ve already kind of answered that but thank you for the Superchat. Jagdeep Jano gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey Joel. Tom recently spoke on Keith Woods cringe worthy and humiliating and cringe-worthy DMs that were leaked by an adult worker he caught feelings for named Slayter. She dated rappers and was disowned by her family. Why did Keith caught her and fall in love with her? Could you psychoanalyze this?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s nonsense! Next Superchat?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What’s nonsense? Having feelings for a girl like that or the Superchatters?</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Oh, just like, just go on about bullshit!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know what Joel? You’re the <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> hardest person to make laugh in the whole world! That was obviously meant to be sort of like a humourous Superchat. And my response to it was humourous. It’s like obviously it was a joke. You can’t psychoanalyze something like that. I believe Keith was just being polite to her and she thought she’d got a big own by leaking her Superchats. But the motto or the moral of said story is, if you have a complete skank like that, don’t treat them with the respect they don’t deserve. How’s that for a hoe owning comment, as you youngsters may say.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. True.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Arab Social Nationalist gave $1.88. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Perhaps what’s happening here is that figures on the Right are struggling with the terrible truth that is crystallizing in front of them. There is no Parliamentary or Democratic way out of the crisis of modernity. NS is necessary precisely because it is revolutionary.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yep, that’s one of my key points.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> White Bracer gave $20. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hashtag stream Starfield team and he qualified that by saying Australia is Starfield.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well thank you very much. DerCherusker gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Great debate and powerful takes. I agree with Joel. The watered down version won’t work.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Jagdeep Jano gave another $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“People are open to Europa being fact checked, but Keith was saying bad stuff like Hitler was anti-Slavic and jews don’t have a monopoly on central banks or gold global finance. He was parroting Wikipedia. I suggest a two on two bare knuckle boxing fight. Mark and Joel versus Keith and Alec Yerbery.”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I’ve seen Joel in real life. He the weird thing about Joel is some people look bigger on stream and then they turn out to be small in real life. Like people always say to me that I look a lot bigger on stream but in real life I’m a lot smaller. Joel’s the other way around. Like when you first meet him in real life I couldn’t get over how sort of tall and well built he is. I think, if me and Joel were double teaming anyone in a sort of a bare knuckle fight, I’d be very, very pleased being on Joel’s side. He’s a sizable guy and has a good weight advantage. Arab Social Nationalist gave a $1.88 again. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If the answer to an existential crisis is not revolutionary, then it isn’t the answer. You cannot accept that Whites are on the brink of extinction and at the same time insist that the response should be as polite and acceptable as possible. Makes no sense. Conservatism is poison.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well thank you very much. Mitch gave $3. Thank you so much my friend. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi, great great stream. Question to Joel. You said you went to India as a teenager. How come you went there?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Oh, I was raised in as a Protestant Christian and it was a kind of charity type arrangement that the Church that I went to was involved with. So it was under the auspices of basically helping out underprivileged children and so on. And I guess my parents encouraged me to go because they thought it would be enriching experience or whatever. And it was an experience that only made me detest <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that group of people more than maybe I otherwise would have. But although living in Australia, it’s not like you need to go to India to know what Indians are like.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Beanie wearing Australian buffoon, you make me sick! I was really sick! Do you know, do you know what? Do you know? I find even more sickening than seeing Palestinians having their arms and legs blown off is goofy White teenagers going to places like India to wipe their brows and assist them with medical aid. You liberal Aussie! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well actually there’s a statue of one of my ancestors in London in Trafalgar Square, Charles Napier. And he actually conquered Pakistan. He was the commander in chief of British forces in India.</p>
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<p>So I guess I was just heading back to old lands, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> To assert your dominance!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, there were one ours, and I don’t want them to be ours again. You know it obviously has kind of backfired the whole conquering India thing, so, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I can’t believe <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> this argument’s gone full circle like this. God, I never thought you’d say something like that Joel.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> What do you mean?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You’re the person I could least imagine going anywhere in the world to administer any form of aid!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, it’s pathological altruism! There you go. Like the White man., &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:14:15]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s what I mean. After everything you said earlier, you say this now.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> But I think it adds authenticity to my story. To start from a foundation like that and to have to develop as a man and attack your own foundation, criticise it and develop a pure view over many, many years of arduous struggle reading, trying out different ideas and so on to come ultimately to these conclusions as a fully mature, you know, adult male now. So.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, well, thank you. Uncle A’s Ice Cream Shop gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hail Joel! Complete agreement with Joel. Generic nationalism will never work.”</span></h3>
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<p>You got a lot of fans in the chat tonight, and I’ve got to say it has been entertaining. We’ve had our own little debate of our own about the sort of ability to work with other ethnic groups.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I’ve got to say I found your passion and sincerity very important in this. And you know, that certainly can’t be questioned. And you seem to impress a lot of people with what you’ve said. Arab Social Nationalist gave another 1.88. Thank you so much, and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The ‘I don’t care about Palestine’ thing works fine if you’re a Bolivian, but the fact is that the UK and the US are both parties to that conflict. If you can extricate White countries from the conflict, not caring about them is perfectly reasonable. But only then. Whites pay for it in blood and treasure.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, what I said is I don’t support us being, I don’t support the state of Israel quite clearly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you can see this Arab is obviously so emotionally invested in the plight of his own people that he can’t even listen to the words that I said correctly. And I don’t love Palestinians enough for him. And this is exactly the problem with these fucking people! It’s never good enough! I can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I hate Israel! I want them completely cut off!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Be careful what you say Joel, because I don’t want <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Fucking bitch about it like, seriously! You’re getting the result that you want. Just be happy with that.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay? Keep Asking for the Truth gave five dollars, &#8230; What? Somebody just posted. Right. Okay, look, a few. Oh, the Starfield people meant that jokingly, so that’s okay. I was gonna say I had to ban somebody in the chat earlier for saying something rude about me, but if anyone says anything rude about Joel, I will also ban them. I haven’t banned anyone permanently, but I’ve given a timeout to someone who said that if I spent as much time caring about White girls that were raped as I did about Palestinian children that were blown up would have won by now. That person is a complete idiot, considering I faced seven years in jail for speaking out against Muslim grooming gangs and were put on two of the longest and most expensive political trials in British history. So I spent a huge amount of time raising the issue of grooming gangs.</p>
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<p>And in fact, myself and Nick Griffin were the first men in Britain to raise the issues of grooming gangs publicly and politically. And both of us were put on lengthy trials for that. I was actually charged with eight counts of inciting racial hatred for talking about the issue of grooming. So anyone says I don’t care about it is either historically illiterate, or a fed.</p>
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<p>I Keep Asking for Truth gave $5 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Test it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you. I’m not sure what it was in relation to. And Keep Asking for Truth gave another $3. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Joel is too based for most to handle. Based AF, appreciate it.”</span></h3>
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<p>He is very based. He’s a good guy and I’m pleased that he’s fought the corner he has fought. Saturn 5, said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hi chaps.”</span></h3>
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<p>And gave $3. Thank you very much. Space Kangay, $5. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If we had a hundred non-Whites agree to National Socialism, 90 would still refuse to leave our countries. This is reflective for many hours of discussion on OME and chat apps.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you. I think that’s Joel’s point.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And as in the chat here, trying to ask questions. But you got to send Mark a Superchat. Like, we’re not answering your question unless you pay up, bitch! You know what I mean?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> To be fair, Joe, usually on a Sunday night, I do the questions for free because I’m captain. I am very charitable. Usually on the Sunday night and the Friday night streams, I do the questions for free. But we have, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, I’m not doing any free questions! Pay the man! Pay the fucking man!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You see, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> you can see there’s a distinct disconnect between Joel and myself. And it might be an Aussie British thing. I’m very easygoing, humourous, and probably come across as sort of slightly nicer and less sweary. And Joel is sort of more hardcore, slightly more sweary and harder to amuse. We have got a slight smirk out of him!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Why is that an Australian thing? Why? Like you said, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I was kind of brought up believing that Australians were all kind of like Max Rockatansky and were just like brooding, hardcore people that lived in the wasteland struggling for that last drop of gasoline.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:19:25]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Well, that was one thing that I did feel when, I mean, I love coming to Britain, and unless they don’t let me in, I’ll definitely be back.</p>
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<p>And I do feel very at home in Britain because it’s my ancestral homeland and I’ve always loved visiting and I’ve always felt very comfortable there from the very first moment I walked on the land and spoke to people, because I already have so many people in my life that are British, and obviously that’s my ancestry. And Australia is fundamentally built by the British, so obviously that makes sense.</p>
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<p>But one thing that I did feel alienated by when I was in Britain was the fact that it did seem like people were a little bit more sensitive. Like they were taking offence a little bit at things that I was saying. Australians, I guess, we are a little bit more rough in a certain sense. When I got back home, I was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, I can be myself. I don’t have to worry about coming across like I hate you or something.”</span></h3>
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<p>And people think that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, why would he say that to me? Is he angry?”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s like, no. It’s just how we talk, I guess. So.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Just for the record, and I’m going to embarrass Joel now. He’s a lot more fun when he’s off stream. When he’s off stream, he’s kind of like my naughty little brother. And I was driving around England with him, laughing and joking with him. I’ve got to say, I thought I was the harshest when it came to roasting people and winding them up until I met Joel. And Joel is a master of roasting other people and winding them up.</p>
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<p>And I’ve got to say, he’s endless entertainment. I wish I could draw this out of him on stream because I did feel this immediate affinity to him when I met him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’ve got to say I’ve met a few people over the years, sort of like Warren Balogh. It was fantastic meeting him, Blair. But meeting Joel was also one of the highlights. And I got to say, like, one of the things that really disappointed me is that Joel couldn’t come over for like Sunday dinner with the family and everything because he is a really good guy. And I know we have the odd disagreement, but he is one of the people in this movement that I do respect the most.</p>
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<p>AWIVR gave $3. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Cheers Mark and Joel.”</span></h3>
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<p>Son of Mars gave $5. Thank you so much! And he sent a little something that looks like a cheese with an Odysee man on it. So thank you so much for that. Keep Asking for Truth sent $3. Thank you very much. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t ask, I just say increase the vril. Let’s go! Keep on doing. Great work, Joel.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yes, Vril power. I know what that means. Sticks Sent Me Here, gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We don’t need to be friends or receive empathy from Muslims, but if our greatest enemy is their greatest enemy, we could achieve our goal of conquest much faster. Like the British and the Soviets in the 1940s.”</span></h3>
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<p>An interesting point somewhere between myself and Joel’s position.</p>
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<p>And by the way, I’m not saying we should be best friends with when I probably just have a bit too much empathy, but you can’t hate me for that. Bluey Wap. Well, maybe you can. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I don’t know. People hate me for a lot of reasons. Add that one to the growing pile. Bluey Waffen gave $5. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We can be friendly or sympathetic to like minded non-Whites, but we must stick to our principles and not allow them into our groups lest we risk turning an ethnic nationalist group into a Tommy Robinson style civic nationalist group.”</span></h3>
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<p>You see, I just want to answer that one briefly and I’ll say this. When I see sort of like black people who want to remain black and want to separate themselves from us, I’m much more willing to go along with that. I don’t want a Tommy Robinson style thing where Tommy wants a rainbow world just minus Islam. He wants a rainbow world ruled over by sort of powerful Israeli elites just without any Muslims there. And I do see, I don’t know what Joel thinks about this, but I do see this kind of, how can I say this?</p>
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<p>So there’s plenty of reasons to not want Muslims in the West, okay? And I don’t want any Muslims in the West. I want to say Muslims shouldn’t be here in places like Britain. I think Joel, we totally agree on that, don’t we? We don’t want Muslims here in White countries.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Oh, no! Bring as many Muslims in as you want! I love Muslims. What are you talking about?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Joel’s finally gone crazy! No. So obviously we’re united on the fact we don’t want them here.</p>
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<p>But one thing that I think is kind of strange, and one thing about the Tommy Robinson thing that maybe Joel would like to comment on is Tommy’s got this weird thing where he doesn’t want Muslims here, Muslim men, but he does want Muslim women coming here by the boatload. And I kind of find that the Tommy anti-Islam. So Tommy’s reasons for being anti-Islam are in some ways different to ours, but his kind of view of anti-Islam tends to lead to this sort of desire for war. So it’s like the Trump anti-Islam thing is like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, we need to go to war with Iran.”</span></h3>
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<p>Whereas I’m opposed to war with Iran and think as long as Iranians are in Iran, I’m happy for Iran to be the way it is. I don’t know what your take is on that. And that’s really what I was trying to say. Maybe I got confused earlier. Maybe I spoke over you. Some people in the chat said I didn’t. If I did that, I didn’t certainly mean to cause you any offence.</p>
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<p>But what I’m trying to say is you have to be very careful about some of this anti-Muslim rhetoric rhetoric, because it’s anti-Muslim rhetoric which is designed to whip young White men into some frenzy, where they’re willing to sign up to go and fight in Iraq or Iran or somewhere like that at the behest of the jews. Do you concede that at all? Do you think there’s any merit to that argument?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:25:15]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, obviously. But the problem is when the criticism of Islam is built around Islam as an ideology or something or as a worldview, as opposed to just recognizing it as a foreign alien element that doesn’t belong in our societies. And that it represents the kind of culture of a foreign race. That’s the issue with it.</p>
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<p>And then secondarily, as well, like Europe has been under siege by Islam in various respects for over a thousand years. And so that history needs to be conscious and recognised. And so, yeah, like, you can get this kind of Deus vult*, this framing of Zionist foreign policy, as if it’s like a new crusade or something. And how based is that?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Deus vult (Latin for ‘God wills it’) is a Christian motto historically tied to ideas of divine Providence and individual interpretation of God’s will. It was first chanted by Catholics during the First Crusade in 1096 as a rallying cry. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>But, I mean, obviously that’s disingenuous. And it’s just ridiculous as well. Like, why are we going and fighting Muslims in foreign countries when they’re in our own fucking country? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Like, it doesn’t even, &#8230; So, like, we’ve got to protect Israel from Israel, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, I certainly agree with that point. I think we sort of come the full circle, and I think it’s been an interesting discussion. We’ve run to nearly two and a half hours now, so I think it’s about time we sort of shut this down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know what, Joel? I’ve really enjoyed this night. I think you’ve made a very powerful case, both historically, ideologically, functionally, and, well, in every way. And I’ve got to say, you are a true gentleman to come on and discuss these issues.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just want to say, if you’ve got a brief sort of two minutes, how you’d like to sum this up before we shut it down, that’d be appreciated.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean, just to get back to the original subject, I think the key point is this, which is that I don’t think the thing holding back the White race is fundamentally the framing of arguments. I think the thing holding back the White race is cowardice. I think people have motivated, reasoning. People want to reason their way into a worldview or into a set of beliefs that make them feel comfortable, that make them feel secure, that make them feel safe inside.</p>
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<p>And so the issue of cowardice and the issue of dishonour is more fundamental than whether this argument or that argument makes sense or not. I believe in the total rational coherence of my worldview, but at the same time, I recognise that it is a worldview that is prohibited fundamentally in the minds of many because of the fear of social ostracism or the fear of the ramifications and implications of the worldview, as opposed to the truth or falsity of the worldview just being rationally evaluated in and of itself.</p>
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<p>So that is also the framing of the National Socialist issue. Like, the debate is very seldom about the specific, actual ideas of National Socialism, whether they are good or bad, or whether using those ideas in contemporary context would be good or bad. The debate is mostly about how people “<em>feel</em>” about the idea and how it freaks people out.</p>
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<p>And I think acquiescing to:</p>
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<p>It’s just acquiescing to the same psychical structure that is basically putting us in this position in the first place. That whole psychical structure of cowardice, that whole psychical structure of dishonour needs to be challenged directly!</p>
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<p>And as I said before, I think World War II was a metaphysical war between the particular and the universal. And I think in order for White particularity to be defended, particularity metaphysically needs to be defended at the core of our worldview.</p>
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<p>And so that would be like how I would maybe summate. I think the most important aspect of my position and everything else kind of flows from there.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much! It’s been an entertaining stream. I think we’ve done a bit of everything and we’ve given people half an hour extra than they expected.</p>
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<p>I’d like to thank Joel for being such a good support and getting up early in the morning. I’d like to urge Keith, if he’s watching, to please do a debate with Joel over on Elijah Schaffer’s channel. Or if you need somewhere smaller and less famous, do it on mine, of course. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> That would be appreciated.</p>
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<p>I’ve had a great evening and I’d like to thank everyone who’s been in the chat. A few people made rude comments. Those people were temporarily timed out. But I don’t give out permanent bans very often. But please do be respectful both to myself and Joel.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Come in the chat and call me jewish and accuse me of being a communist and a fed. It’s funny! We should just fill the whole chat with these accusations like why even, like have the sound off and just spam how we’re Fed communist jews and just maniacally just keep typing away and banging the entity.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s what I mean.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> We should just have a live chat where you can just accuse us of all these things constantly and that would be hilarious!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> There’s a guy called Jimbo who loves, who absolutely loves one of your Telegram moderators. He’s been talking about him all night. So apparently, you know, anyway, before Joel kicks this particular hornet’s nest so hard that we can’t sleep for the next week because of the stings, we’re gonna call it a day.</p>
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<p>But it has been really good! Thanks for getting up so early, Joel. Thanks to everyone in the chat. I know it’s been a heated debate, but from my point, I’ve got to say Joel is a stand up guy. I’ve really enjoyed it. Me and Joel agree on what 95% things. We had a little bit debate about something from a certain perspective. I do respect Joel’s point of view, and I think everyone should support him as much as they can. I think he’s a very, very brave guy, especially to take the point that he’s taken at such a young age. You know, he’s putting his whole future in this cause. And obviously, I wish him all the best and I hope to continue working with him long into that future.</p>
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<p>So thank you so much, Joel. You’re a stand up character!</p>
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<p>Anyway, we’re going to shut things down now. Thank you so much to everyone who’s here. Thanks to Joel. Thank you much for everyone who donated so generously.</p>
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<p>I’ll be back on Wednesday for another episode of Patriotic Weekly Review. But for now, thank you and good night, everyone, and have a lovely weekend, whatever’s left of it. Good night.</p>
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<p>Mark Collett<br />
3 days ago<br />
Pinned by @MarkCollett<br />
If you would like to contribute to the stream, please use Entropy:<br />
https://entropystream.live/app/markcollett</p>
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<p>@katana17<br />
2 days ago<br />
[Mark Collett &#8211; Can National Socialism Be Resurrected? &#8211; with Joel Davis &#8211; Mar 23, 2025 &#8211; Transcript]</p>
<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="T3XVeQxb4k"><p><a href="https://katana17.com/2025/03/24/mark-collett-can-national-socialism-be-resurrected-with-joel-davis-mar-23-2025-transcript/">Mark Collett &#8211; Can National Socialism Be Resurrected? &#8211; with Joel Davis &#8211; Mar 23, 2025 &#8211; Transcript</a></p></blockquote>
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[In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Joel Davis on the need to rehabilitate National Socialism as an alternative to (((liberal))) democracy that is destroying the West. Items discussed include:<br />
Mark introduces Joel Davis as a leading young intellectual in the world-wide nationalist movement (2:00)<br />
Joel explains he wrote an essay defending the rehabilitation of National Socialism in response to Keith Woods’ criticism (7:00)<br />
Joel argues nationalism needs an ideology to serve it, and National Socialism is built entirely out of the nationalist idea (10:00)<br />
Joel discusses Carl Schmitt’s prediction that liberalism and nationalism would become enemies (13:00)<br />
Joel argues Germany had a unique historical role in resisting liberalism in Europe (18:00)<br />
Mark asks Joel to focus on why National Socialism is relevant today rather than historical context (22:00)<br />
Joel says Australia needs National Socialist principles to survive as a White nation (25:00)<br />
“We need a movement that inspires people to have courage.”-Joel (30:00)<br />
Discussion of the term “Nazi” losing power as an insult (35:00)<br />
Joel criticises conservatives for allowing the Left to dictate their standards (40:00)<br />
Mark questions Joel’s opposition to working with other ethnic nationalist groups (45:00)<br />
“I want to have a space where White people organise our own politics amongst ourselves.”-Joel (50:00)<br />
Debate over showing empathy for Palestinian victims vs focusing solely on White interests (60:00)<br />
Joel argues Whites need to focus on organising themselves rather than foreign conflicts (70:00)<br />
“We need fighters. I mean, obviously by fighters you mean political fighters.”-Mark (75:00)<br />
And more, &#8230;<br />
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark,<br />
This discussion would have been better if it wasn&#8217;t focused on Joel&#8217;s views.<br />
A better approach would have been to go through the history and precepts of NatSoc -and Drexler/Feder&#8217;s 25 points- to see if they can still be applied today.<br />
That&#8217;s what I tuned in for.<br />
Tip: even Goebbels called out the 25 points as being too Teutonic and out of date. Look instead at the manifesto of the DAP.<br />
Both Striker and Warren will speak with perspicacity on this, rather than frustration, anger, heedlessness.</p>
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DerCherusker<br />
3 days ago<br />
$10.00<br />
Great debate and powerful takes. I agree with Joel, the watered down version won&#8217;t work.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
$1.88<br />
The &#8220;I don&#8217;t care about Palestine&#8221; thing works fine if you are Bolivian. But the fact is that the US and UK are both parties to that conflict. If you can extricate White countries from the conflict, not caring about it is perfectly reasonable, but only then. Whites pay for it in blood and treasure.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
2 days ago<br />
true. also there is a strategic reason to care, it has done more damage to israels image than anything else in the past 80 years. for that reason alone everyone should be keeping Gaza in the spotlight as long as possible</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
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And done nothing to help white people. Even emboldens them because Israel is viewed as a white supremacist state by most Arabs and those who support Palestine.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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ah yes silly me, all those videos of israel bombing children were actually GOOD for israel! thats why they never took tiktok down! of course.<br />
we should all just forget any of it ever happened and only talk about relevant things like the shoa, right rabbi?</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
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Its good because majority of normal people view Israel as a white supremacist coloniser state and blame white people and christians for the genocide againts Palestinians.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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I think &#8220;most&#8221; is a huge overstatement. Also protestant christians in the US are at least partially directly to blame, without them israel would not be in a position to do any of this.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
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This is a non-sequitur. He did not say &#8220;good for israel.&#8221; He said &#8220;done nothing to help white people.&#8221; He is correct that arabs are anti-white leftists in the US and Europe mostly. Only when their own hides are on the line do Arabs appeal to Hitler.</p>
<p>HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
We can condemn Israel without siding or appealing to the Arabs or other minorities.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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condemning them for genociding [x group] implicitly puts you &#8220;on the side&#8221; of [x group]. not sure what you are even trying to say there.</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
If that nonsense is correct then Davis doesn&#8217;t have to be friendly towards any POC and doesn&#8217;t have to say &#8220;poor muslims&#8221; he just has to condemn the genocide to please the likes of you. But that still isn&#8217;t enough even going by your own logic, you obviously require more from him. You want him to officially state his position as POC alliance friendly.<br />
I condemn the act of genocide but personally I don&#8217;t give a damn about any Arab/Jew or non White. If every last one of them were to be swept aside by natural disaster I wouldn&#8217;t spend more than a second thinking about them. I would how ever spend more time thinking about the poor animals that may have been effected.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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doesn&#8217;t have to say &#8220;poor muslims&#8221; he just has to condemn the genocide to please the likes of you.<br />
correct. the rest of your comment is stupid.<br />
&#8220;I can only be a White nationalist if I don&#8217;t have empathy for non-whites&#8221;<br />
this sounds stupid and childish because it is. You sound like a toddler. If you truly didn&#8217;t care about any arabs or non-whites then why is their genocide bad or different than a natural disaster from your perspective?</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
I am not about to waste my time trying to explain beyond black and white to a genius who has not grasped simple English grammar. I&#8217;ll leave you to dwell on the matter and I&#8217;ll give you an eternity to do so simpleton.</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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you&#8217;re just an edgelord with no actual worldview. I bet your dumbass is covered in tattoos</p>
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HH<br />
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You have the English grammar of a nine year old and talk like a 15 year old. Probably something to do with the fact you&#8217;re a shit skin from the the Gay American Empire. Not my fault you&#8217;re a small brained, simple organism. That would be mother nature&#8217;s evolutionary selection.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
They have millions of students even some jews on literally every university in the West protesting for Palestine, ofcourse calling Israel a white supremacist coloniser nation. At the same time no Palestinian movement or pro-Palestine movement ever protested againts the injustices done to the white race.</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
2 days ago<br />
Irrelevant &#8211; jews brought them here.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
Yet its the muslims who do all the raping, mudering and terrorising. Lets cry some more over an alien people who terrorise us on a daily basis.</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
2 days ago<br />
Yes, let&#8217;s attack the bees and not the hive first.</p>
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Carnegie<br />
2 days ago<br />
You&#8217;re trying to imply that jewish lead Palestine protests, that mainly consist of BLM, Antifa supporters, and westernized Muslims, are somehow representative of actual ethnic Palestinians, in Palestine, that are fighting our greatest enemy so that they can stay in their land.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
I am saying that Palestinian Arabs have more support than white people, and for the only explicilty pro-white movements use their energy to support Arabs is completely useless. As for them fighting our so called greatest enemy, do you really think if Israel ceases to exist as a state that all the millions of muslims who terrosise white people on a daily basis in western countries will all just pack up and leave. You live in an echo chamber and weaking a small state in the Middle East wont stop antiwhite ideology.</p>
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<p>@selly<br />
2 days ago<br />
im pretty sure hamas did a whole publicity stunt during the george floyd riots supporting blm</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
General rule of thumb: anyone arguing that they don&#8217;t care about Palestinians is either taking $$$ from someone or a brain dead boomer. Everyone else understands the connection between what&#8217;s happening there and those who rule us.</p>
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HH<br />
1 day ago<br />
Where are the Palestinians straining their ovaries about White genocide and the connection to us being targeted for murder by ethnics because of the jew subversion?</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
1 day ago<br />
You said the same thing earlier, BAP.</p>
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HH<br />
1 day ago<br />
All the &#8220;WE should align with shit skins&#8221; moral fags can never argue against this point. Every single time.</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
1 day ago<br />
You&#8217;re Jewish</p>
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HH<br />
1 day ago<br />
Haha accusing anyone who isn&#8217;t a shit skin loving moral fag of &#8220;taking $$$ from someone&#8221;, basically accusing the only real NATSOCs in existence of being on the take and then calling anyone who defends NATSOC of being a jew. And no actual point to make against cucking to shit skins. You&#8217;ve been Noticed.</p>
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<p>@lewpers<br />
1 day ago<br />
anyone with your opinion IS Jewish, though?</p>
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HH<br />
1 day ago(edited)<br />
Anyone with your level of English grammar isn&#8217;t worth listening to let alone your utter failure to get past the very first obstacle to your &#8220;love the shit skins&#8221; moral fagging. We know what you&#8217;re here to do, you&#8217;d be more effective on faceberg.</p>
<p>@Uncle_Anon<br />
2 days ago<br />
Agreed, it&#8217;s the same for &#8220;I don&#8217;t care about Ukraine I&#8217;m America first!&#8221;, bitch you made this &#8216;conflict&#8217;, hell you even blew up a pipeline.</p>
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HH<br />
1 day ago<br />
Why are so many people talking like American negros? That entire sentence has got a Shaniqua overtone.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mate, too many Nats have zero ideological consistency.<br />
They are happy with appearing monsters without humanity.<br />
#GrugNats<br />
Email me with a &#8216;hello&#8217;</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
Until we start hearing loud and powerful condemnations from Palestinians and other muslims/minorities when their kind commit patterns of crimes against the Indigenous host populations where they seek &#8220;refuge&#8221; we should all be with Davis on this. It&#8217;s always Whites who are held to the jewish subversion of &#8220;silence is violence&#8221;, but muslims, they don&#8217;t have to make a sound when we&#8217;re targeted for murder/rape/violence by them. National Socialists were not responsible for the creation of Israel that was liberal democracy, so let proponents of democracy appeal to the minorities, let liberals apologise for the creation of Israel and all the problems they&#8217;re causing to the muslims. If NATSOC won Israel and it&#8217;s little tribe would have far less power if any.</p>
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<p>@selly<br />
2 days ago<br />
Exactly. Muslims are quite happy to work hand in glove with the jews when it suits them moors invasions in Europe, Ottomans invasions of Europe all prime examples. Are muslims guilty about murdering, raping and pillaging lands? No they celebrate it and outright speak of their desire to do it again to Europe.</p>
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<p>@Chromophobic<br />
2 days ago<br />
People forget or aren&#8217;t aware that National Socialists were explicitly pro Arab and anti zionist. Jews are the enemy. This is the worst thing that has happened to them since 1933. To not capitalize on it is idiotic. Holding jews to the standards that they set for us is basic logic.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
1 day ago<br />
I guess we sort of pay for the Turkish occupation of Cyprus also&#8211;at least our government allowed it to occur, but not many Arabs/moslems (if any) speak up about that. I think the jews are showing their inhumanity nicely in Palestine. I pity anyone at their mercy, but I wish the Arabs/moslems would have the same sense of justice when it comes to the rights of whites. The number of caustic moslems &#8212; Levant Arabs specifically &#8212; settling Germany likely exceeds the number of caustic jews in Roman Palestine.</p>
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<p>@KeepAskingForTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
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Joel is to based for most to handle. Based af Appreciate it.</p>
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Caledonian Alemanni<br />
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*too based</p>
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<p>@xero<br />
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he is truly a supreme gentleman</p>
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The Palestinians have never asked anyone outside their region to fight for them. Not ever. They ask for nothing other than to stop supplying ISrael with the means to kill them.</p>
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2 days ago<br />
So they should love Davis style NATSOC because he wants to cut Israel and jews out of White countries. Why do we have to apologise to them as well?</p>
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It is not white nationalists giving these lampshades weapons. It would be nice if Arabs focused their information inwards and on their extremists to attack jew lobbyists rather than white women.</p>
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Overcoming the Holocaust myth is important. It creates a total frame shift once you realize how much we were lied to.</p>
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3 days ago(edited)<br />
What a breath of fresh air! Joel thinks like a winner. His thinking is the type of thinking required if White people even have a chance. Mark&#8217;s take sounds kind, but it will not end White Genocide. Focusing on the plight of other racial groups instead of ourselves is a losing strategy. NonWhites do not care about White people. If you talk to any of them long enough you will find they are all antiWhite. Some are just less antiWhite than others.</p>
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National Socialism is fundamentally aligned w/ nature, and unlike communism, it works in practice \o<br />
<iframe class="wp-embedded-content" sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted" title="From Bust to Boom: Hitler and National Socialism" src="https://odysee.com/%24/embed/%40AurigaBooks%3Ae%2FNS_economics%3Ae?autoplay=true#?secret=BcXDVIQ6B5" data-secret="BcXDVIQ6B5"></iframe></p>
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0KT0BER<br />
2 days ago<br />
I very much doubt that any White folk are pushing the &#8216;christ is king/nazi&#8217;s were christians&#8217; horseshit.<br />
Just posting this to bolster your claim.<br />
https://odysee.com/@0KT0BER:9/folkandfaith:0</p>
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3 days ago(edited)<br />
kosher Greg Johnson: “We shouldn’t align with NSDAP because normal people associate them with all the lies and untruth propaganda they’ve been told about them”.</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
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Greg is like 75 now I believe. KMac is much better from that generation.</p>
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<p>@Diogenes<br />
2 days ago<br />
Greg is like 53 so you’re way off there. I believe Kevin MacDonald is 80. personally I admire them both.</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
Being an avid reader of CC it is my opinion Greg Johnson has now been compromised. Article after article about the blax but nothing on the constant attacks on Whites by jews, yeah but the blax are the real problem. Leading up to the election he suddenly became a massive Trump shill in a MAGAtard sense. An article posted today where the writer talks about looking at &#8220;elder personalities&#8221; and mentions two jewish writers that have done nothing for Whites but they&#8217;ve written constantly about delusional blax on why they just can&#8217;t seem to do civilisation. Moderators on CC have been instructed that no one can be seen disagreeing with the supreme leader in any impactful way in the comments.</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
2 days ago<br />
I think we are both wrong. I’ll keep an eye out for it. I stopped following Greg some time ago.</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
I stopped very recently. By follow I mean frequent his website, which was up until he flipped invaluable to our cause.</p>
<p>@ArcadeOutpost<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
56:15<br />
and Christianity has been a massive factor behind universalist thought, it was the first thing to start eroding at racial identity in favor of universalist ideals</p>
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<p>@01123581379<br />
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We need whites to stop caring about other races</p>
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The National<br />
2 days ago<br />
Show me Muslims that care about the raped British girls. They don&#8217;t&#8230;<br />
But Whites need to care about every shitskin. This is why Whites lose</p>
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Carnegie<br />
2 days ago<br />
Show me Muslims that care about the raped British girls. They don&#8217;t&#8230;<br />
Neither does the British government.<br />
But Whites need to care about every shitskin. This is why Whites lose<br />
Whites lose because the jews take a legitimate grievance and use it to manipulate low IQ people. Currently they&#8217;re using it to prevent you from dealing a serious blow to their global credibility. It&#8217;s a free shot at the jews so why not take it. You don&#8217;t have to support it, just don&#8217;t countersignal the people that do.<br />
And we&#8217;re not talking about all non-whites. We&#8217;re talking about the Palestinians who are fighting against the jews to stay in their own nation.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)<br />
How was Hitler anti-Slavic? what utter rubbish that is.</p>
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Smoothie<br />
2 days ago<br />
he wasn’t technically anti Slavic, in his book he wrote about how it bothered him that there were so many Slavs who left the Soviet Union and began taking low class jobs in Austria, hence why Adolf ended up homeless at one point, so he was irritated by that but propaganda likes to use that to say he didn’t think Slavs were white or whatever else they come up with, he actually felt sorry for them and wanted to destroy communism so they could go about their lives in their own homelands</p>
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Asadafa<br />
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I think it was mainly ethnics from within AT-HU. Hitler writes about this in regards to the Vienna parliament. German AT had the particular situation that much of its industry was given to the Czechs, as were a good portion of its national archives, which were held at the oldest German university, Karlsuniversitaet in Prague. The reason for this, which Hitler details in his speech April 29, 1939, is that Prague (under LU) was once deutsche Kaiserstadt. The Kaiser moved to Vienna roughly permanently in 1438.<br />
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/KarlIV.(HRR<br />
) The Czech issue was added to the Hanseatic issue of Danzig and the Corridor and Russian-hosted bolshevism.</p>
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2 days ago(edited)<br />
He was nordicist supremacist, so basically at least indifferent of everyone else. If germany had won, had it passed laws on the now huge area(basically europe as a whole and likely much of russia) of 3rd reich that non northwest european peoples are officially 2nd class citizens and/or slaves in the 3rd reich(europe) is another question. I think such laws would have been passed.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
If that had been the case such laws would have been a long way off as it was estimated that the make-up of the German people was around 65% Nordic/Aryan with the remaining 35% being the other white races of Europe&#8230;..It was a universal agreement that there was no such thing as a 100% Aryan in NS Germany, they respected all races, but in their own regions.</p>
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Pure<br />
1 day ago<br />
I dont know the exact genetics of 30s germans/people living in germany. Other than they were most likely germanics by en large. But i do know that in fact Hitler was nordicist supremacist. Nobody knows what would have happened in each european nation in case of german total victory. I mean besides you people of course.<br />
So i think that due to the fact of Hitlers nordicist supremacism, its very likely that in case of a total victory by 3rd reich most of europe would have been made as part/vassals of the 3rd reich empire, including most of russia.<br />
And non northwest europeans would have been seen as inferiour to the master race in the 3rd reich empire. Because they simply were. And as such treated differently both socially and under the laws.<br />
3rd reich was not about a peace and love inclusion fest that many seem to think. It was an militaristic empire in the making. One that would rival russian empire and american empire and british empire. And thats why the other empires had to become allies and crush that emerging empire. And to make sure germany/germans never pose such threat to them ever. And they did make sure of that. And lets not forget not only about germans, but of other axis nations. The allied empires punished any nation who fought on axis side and made sure such uprising/revolt doesnt happen again in europe.<br />
Ns Germany did make brutal war against other europeans. But somehow many that call themselves nationalists think ns Germany was just this big peace and love country. Like misunderstood hippies or something. In war you kill them, conquer them, take/use their natural resources, including their fertile women. And you subjugate them to under your power, culture, norms and laws.<br />
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<p>@RonP1<br />
1 day ago(edited)<br />
In the 1930s the Germans, especially in the northwestern parts were near identical to Brits, but Germany&#8217;s territory went right across to East Prussia, so it&#8217;s pretty obvious that Germany was a mixture&#8230;..as I said, it was a universal agreement that there was no such thing as a 100% Aryan in Germany, but it was the predominant strain in the make-up of the people, and they decided that they wanted to protect and improve that strain.</p>
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Pure<br />
19 hours ago<br />
I dont really care what germans at that time were. Im interested about the actions, not of the exact genetics. And more precisely of likely or possible future actions taken by the 3rd reich empire in europe if it had won over the british, russian and american empires. But this is clearly very touchy subject for most people or at least most ns people. Again it seems like many truly believe it would have been an eternal love and peace fest.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is mostly untrue and unrealistic. Russia was a backwards mess in 1900. Poland was not quite as bad but still weak and disorganized and claiming territory from Germans, Czechs, Belarussians, Ukrainians, and Lithuanians. &#8220;Czechoslovakia&#8221; under Benes&#8211;a completely invented nation in which the Czech supremacists were only 55% majority &#8212; did everything everything in the 1920s to 1930s to infuriate everyone besides Czechs, including the Slovaks and Poles. NS Germany did not &#8220;take&#8221; women from other societies, and it allied with Hungary, Italy, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, and (formally) BiH.</p>
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Pure<br />
19 hours ago(edited)<br />
Being allies in war time doesnt have to do with friendship. Those are strategic decisions. I mean germany made war against its former allies. But you already knew that. Many have turned against their allies, so it doesnt really mean much. What matters at least to me is what is actually done. Interesting aspects of war is also how birthrates in occupied france rose up sharply. I dont claim germans took french women and made them pregnant whilst having first killed/imprisoned lots of french men. Nor do i claim that in wars in general that sort of phenomenom happens, that winner would take it all, including many of the fertile women.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Which allies?</p>
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Pure<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Go study</p>
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MTaylor<br />
2 days ago<br />
If you can trust this info, take a look:<br />
Generalplan Ost<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s Wikipedia nonsense &#8211; if they did move German people east it would have been into unpopulated regions, similar to the Volga Germans</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
There&#8217;s a fair bit of information on the link below &#8211; it states &#8220;There is no indication that this plan was ever given official approval in full by either Himmler or Hitler.&#8221;<br />
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&#038;t=90383<br />
Wikipedia&#8217;s page is complete crap designed to bolster the official story ie if you believe the official story you&#8217;re likely to believe that too.</p>
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VapourLynx<br />
15 hours ago(edited)<br />
Wikipedia is the worst for NS info because it always has the post-WW2 anti-NS victors&#8217; spin on it. Go search Karl Radl on x/twitter, who is basically as knowledgeable about National Socialism as you can get, he has a recent post about it.<br />
And I&#8217;d just say, even if there were some actions the Germans took that were disagreeable, that doesn&#8217;t mean that the general ideology or &#8216;world concept&#8217; was bad. It doesn&#8217;t mean you have to drive East or make an anti-Slav statement. There were plenty of geopolitical tensions between Slavs &amp; Germans even pre-NS, which includes WW1 &amp; the German territory cut up after WW1. There was even mistreatment &amp; expulsions of German minorities in the Soviet Union prior to Hitler coming to power.</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Those allergic to a Swastika are Not welcome in my foxhole.</p>
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<p>@Deanfranjek<br />
2 days ago<br />
NS is the only solution to this current mess .</p>
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<p>@Rickyboy<br />
2 days ago<br />
ive said that time and time again</p>
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The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
The holohoax is crumbling.</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
The holocaust myth is shaking</p>
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Earthling Carl<br />
2 days ago<br />
Keith Woods definitely gives off subversive rat vibes to me, 100% support Joel and what he stands for.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Some humanity wouldn&#8217;t kill you. Hitler pitied the Palestinians publicly and in writing.</p>
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
2 days ago<br />
Some Nats like appearing as monsters.<br />
Mark was right this evening.<br />
We are consistent with Nationalism or we are fkn frauds.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
1 day ago<br />
It is correct to have behavioral norms and reciprocity expectations from those who expect our support. Killing children with bombs is unacceptable as is sending your men to our country to stab our children and rape our women, then refusing to repatriate these elements, as most Arabs do to us.</p>
<p>Stefan<br />
17 hours ago<br />
I wounder what his opinion would be today if he could see modern Europe&#8230;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
$1.88<br />
If the answer to an existential crisis is not revolutionary, then it isn&#8217;t an answer. You cannot accept that Whites are on the brink of extinction and at the same time insist that the response should be as polite and acceptable as possible. It makes no sense. Conservatism is poison.</p>
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Pure<br />
2 days ago<br />
The problem is, nothing in this world is forever. It can be that whites dont exist forever, or non whites for that matter. Or some in between. Its not just a given.<br />
At the end of the day its about does the organism have the will to survive. Can it survive and adapt to the environment. We have adapted and survived the extreme cold. Can we now adapt to surviving the hostility of invading non whites against us. We have done and survived that too before. So the odds of us surviving this time is pretty high. The question really is what is the best method to adapt and survive this. More research and streams should be done about how we survived before.</p>
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<p>@Uncle_Anon<br />
2 days ago<br />
&#8220;Resurrected&#8221;<br />
It never &#8220;died&#8221; it is a System of governance that was tried once and it was a miraculous success and seemingly the natural form of governance for Whites. You better hope you can&#8230;</p>
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renunciate<br />
2 days ago<br />
I agree with Joel in that we have to focus on our people where we are.</p>
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<p>@Grumpole<br />
2 days ago<br />
White people have been poisoned by the jew into believing that they are the problem, when facts and history says the jew have always been the problem. Until Satan and his Synagogue of evil is neutralised nothing will change for the good.</p>
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Earthling Carl<br />
2 days ago<br />
Sieg Heil!</p>
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The Goyim Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
the answer to 1984 is 1933 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
all other races only care about their own. so must we</p>
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Pure<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
Obviously those europeans that come out of this extinction/bottle neck event, or rather that survive to build anew, will be much less pleasant and much less humanitarian europeans. Likely even quite selfish and violent dickheads. But thats nature taking its course. And it will take its course and shape the new survivor european man. He will be strong, violent and merciless, unlike the modern european man.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
$1.88<br />
Perhaps what&#8217;s happening here is that figures on the right are struggling with the terrible truth that is crystalising in front of them: there is no parliamentary or democratic way out of the crisis of modernity. NS is necessary precisely because it is revolutionary.</p>
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<p>@Spartanwarrior<br />
2 days ago<br />
i agree with Joel. Mark is living in the past</p>
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makersnameplate<br />
1 day ago<br />
You think the guy trying to revive the 1930s is the one who’s not living in the past? Staggering take.</p>
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Asadafa<br />
1 day ago<br />
Grab onto something! Trying to destroy lies about the past in the present, given the significance of the past event and doctrinaire handling of the historical lies at present, is critical at present. Controlling the teaching of the past right now is current and it is critical to our future.</p>
<p>@atexian<br />
2 days ago<br />
Good debate! I do agree with Joel, we have finite resources, both mental and physical, we need to be strategic and focus on the singular goal of White unification first. Once we have unity and political power, maybe we can stretch out into other things.</p>
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<p>@jfreedom1350<br />
2 days ago<br />
What is truly remarkable is the fact that people from all parts of EARTH are now intuitively thinking the same thing and seeing the same issues. The subversive powers that be currently are aware of this and their campaign to dissuade people across the planet is abundantly clear. The very act of &#8216;them&#8217; doing this is what is waking people up across the globe.</p>
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King Tut<br />
2 days ago<br />
when it comes to politics, Joel is 100% on point!</p>
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<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
A Bosnian is still a European.</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
I don’t consider Albanians european even tho they are white and on the continent.</p>
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White Minority<br />
3 days ago<br />
revising the holohoax is the only way to go</p>
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<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jews control, fund and direct the mainstream right throughout the West. This is especially true of Great Britain. See Sargon, Robinson, Fox, Farage, Hopkins, Reform, Hopkins, Musk, possibly Homeland and many others</p>
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<p>@YeGadz<br />
2 days ago<br />
Joel is 1000% correct, white identarianism is the only way out of this shit, no amount of collaboration with other groups is fixing it. And he is right we are weak, and cuck to our liberal priors for optics.</p>
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TheLastBoyScout<br />
2 days ago<br />
I think what Mark doesn&#8217;t understand is that the original national socialist were able to be polite and have good relationships with other nations and races because they weren&#8217;t dealing with them in their home countries</p>
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<p>@Mushriks<br />
2 days ago<br />
Other nations and cultures yeah… does that include Eastern European nations too?</p>
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Long Knife<br />
2 days ago<br />
yes<br />
&#8220;Just as England looks after its interests in every corner of the earth, modern Germany, too, shall know how to look after and protect its &#8211; albeit much more limited &#8211; interests. And these interests of the German Reich include protecting those German Volksgenossen who are not, of their own power, in a position to secure for themselves on our borders the right to general human, political, and weltatnschaulich freedom! In the fifth year following the first great foreign policy agreement of the Reich, it fills us with true satisfaction to be able to say that, particularly as regards our relations with the state with which we would perhaps have the greatest differences, not only have tensions lessened; moreover, in the course of these past years, an ever friendlier rapprochement has come about. I well know that this was due first and foremost to the fact that, at the time, Warsaw did not have a Western parliamentarianism but a Polish Marshal who, being an outstanding figure, sensed how very significant a lessening of German-Polish tensions was for Europe. The work of that time, which many questioned, has proven itself in the interim; and I may well say that, when the League of Nations finally abandoned its unremitting attempts to cause disruption in Danzig and furthermore appointed a new commissioner who was a man of personal stature, this very spot that presented the greatest threat to European peace lost its dangerous significance.<br />
The Polish nation respects the national conditions in this state, and this city and Germany both respect Polish rights. Hence it was possible to pave the way for an understanding which, starting with Danzig, has been capable of completely removing the poison from the relationship between Germany and Poland, transforming it into one of truly friendly cooperation &#8211; despite the attempts of troublemakers here and there.&#8221;<br />
~ Adolf Hitler<br />
from Reichstag speech of February 20th, 1938<br />
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Pure<br />
2 days ago<br />
Lets not pretend that ns germany was some humanitarian superpower. Its was highly organized militaristic superpower wanting to expand.</p>
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<p>@Jiveturkey0001<br />
7 hours ago<br />
So?</p>
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<p>@Jiveturkey0001<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Yes. And also because they actually achieved a level of strength and power that allowed them to COMMAND respect from those other races.</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
I agree with Joel. White people need to look inwards and focus on our own above all else in order to throw off the Jewish shackles which will in the end eliminate their power and ability to do what they do re expanding Israels borders unopposed in the first place.</p>
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LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
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middle east conflicts belong to the middle east&#8230;.let them sort out their own shit. No more money or military from White nations</p>
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Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
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People are open to Europa being fact checked but Keith was saying bad faith stuff like, Hitler was anti-Slavic, and Jews don&#8217;t have a monopoly on central banks or global finance. He was parroting Wikipedia. I suggest a 2 on 2 bare knuckle boxing fight &#8211; Mark and Joel VS Keith Woods and Alek Yerbury</p>
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<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yeah, &#8220;Nazi&#8221; = &#8220;Gas chambers&#8221; for the Eternal Normie.</p>
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<p>@TRNSAU<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mr Davis is 100% Correct.</p>
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3 days ago<br />
Rockwell worked with them because they were there in front of him. There&#8217;s no reason to pretend they don&#8217;t exist.</p>
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3 days ago<br />
You have to deal with the situation as it is. Since non-Whites are often racially aware, you can have the peaceful separation discussion with them.</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Tucker is another Thiel nationalist</p>
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Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
What&#8217;s even the point of WN when all it&#8217;s young members are spiritually negrified</p>
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<p>@countercurrents<br />
Conservatism is anti-national and anti-White. It&#8217;s the most despicable ideology in Western politics.</p>
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HH<br />
2 days ago<br />
If NATSOC won Israel and the jews wouldn&#8217;t have one third of the power they wield over the West today. NATSOC does not need to appeal to or beg mulsims about anything.</p>
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<p>@MalteHenryk<br />
2 days ago<br />
To have sympathy for other peoples isn&#8217;t making their cause your own.<br />
Being a nationalist doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t cooperate with other groups for a common (!) cause.<br />
I don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s very pragmatic or a winners strategy but that won&#8217;t stop online goofballs who are more interested in letting of steam rather than actually changing something in RL.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago<br />
Colin Jordan&#8217;s &#8216;The National Vanguard &#8211; The Way Forward&#8217; is a must read for NS&#8217;s<br />
https://odysee.com/@RonP1:8/the-national-vanguard-the-way-forward-colin-jordan:e</p>
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3 days ago<br />
&#8220;Homosexual and gay&#8221; are code words for: Perverted Queers.</p>
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AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
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<p>@VikingBro<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel Davis \o I recognize myself in him. There was years when I never laughed or smiled, because of how serious I feel about the struggle. \o<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Can I question when chimneys were built?</p>
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3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
third reich was a success, we are still here today because it</p>
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Uncle A&#8217;s Ice Cream Shop<br />
3 days ago<br />
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Hail Joel! Complete agreement with Joel. Generic &#8220;nationalism&#8221; will never work.</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark and Duke are very experienced and should be listened to here</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Cucker Tarlson is an overpaid Coward.</p>
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Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
We get called Nazis for wanting white countries anyway. Go through em.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Globalism is just the new term for Internationalism</p>
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<p>@Loke<br />
1 day ago<br />
At about 1h45m: The question of taking sides in the Israeli genocide. Joels third position is a bit like; I don´t care when evil triumphs.<br />
Peaceful separation would need a Palestine for Palestinians to return to, and a Syria for Syrians, not a growing zionists tumor fully supported by treasonous western clown puppets, seen by Arabs and muslims as representing white Europeans.<br />
Being supportive of a Palestinian homeland does not contradict our claims to our lands, it is actually the moral stance to take.</p>
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<p>@MaDaZi<br />
2 days ago<br />
Never thought i would write these words but&#8230; Mark seems to have a loser mentality, like a centrist. That won&#8217;t save the white race. Have to rethink my entire view of Mark now.</p>
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Mark Collett<br />
1 day ago<br />
You should look up a guy called George Lincoln Rockwell, by your standard he was a centrist with a loser mentality.</p>
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JohnDuly<br />
2 days ago<br />
Joel Davis is really becoming a huge figure in all of our lives. This from a boomer in New Jersey. God bless the both of u and a growing number of other proud committed strong white men!</p>
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renunciate<br />
2 days ago<br />
The St George’s flag seems to be familiar and stir the soul of the British. Why reinvent the wheel? Use what you’ve got.</p>
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Cù Fhoirthe <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3f4-e0067-e0062-e0073-e0063-e0074-e007f.png" alt="🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f5-1f1f8.png" alt="🇵🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
1 day ago<br />
There are about 7-8 million native &#8220;British&#8221; people for whom the St George&#8217;s is not an ethnic symbol, and is even a foreign one.</p>
<p>renunciate<br />
1 day ago<br />
, I probably should’ve written “English” rather than British. I’m sure you also have a regional flag that would serve as a nationalistic symbol. My apologies, as I clearly mis-spoke. My excuse is “murica” <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@GazChamberz<br />
2 days ago<br />
A &#8216;neonazi&#8217; demo in Berlin on Saturday was led by a Turk! We should support Palestinians because the Zionists use anti Muslim propaganda to reinforce their own power. The ADL says half of humanity is antisemitic, who is to say they won&#8217;t use Trump to witch hunt anyone who they deem antisemitic??</p>
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TheLastBoyScout<br />
2 days ago<br />
I think it&#8217;s really unfair for Mark to keep bringing up the dude with tattoos on his face that was a big debacle I get it but it was a one-off that dude is not representative in fact he was probably a plant</p>
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makersnameplate<br />
1 day ago<br />
That’s just disillusionment on your part. Present the wrong image and you lose people, like it or not. Oh, and why does every misguided person on the Right have to be a plant? You’re kidding yourself if you really believe that.</p>
<p>Lamps<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark, you’re a legend</p>
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Smoothie<br />
2 days ago<br />
nationalism is the natural default mode of all nations, but our people’s natural instincts has been subverted, it’s like they are in a cult, if you look at the achievements the liberal commie bastards have had it’s because they are unapologetically radical, the more radical they are the closer they get to their goals, nationalist need to be as unapologetically radical as the liberals, moderateness gets you no where</p>
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<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
im a nazi and seeing palestian kids blown up pisses me off and im not lying so what ever</p>
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<p>@selly<br />
1 day ago<br />
yes you&#8217;re white. Palestinians on the other hand dont give a flying f*ck when white kids are ran down by a semi trailer in France</p>
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<p>@popovacianen<br />
1 day ago<br />
well my morality does not change just cuz somebody else is retarded</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
wow mark is not correct on this at all</p>
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The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites are too nice already. Non-Whites haven&#8217;t earned any right to interact with us.</p>
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<p>@GaelicNord<br />
3 days ago<br />
lucas gage saw pretty brutally on twitter that theres no reciprocity or one struggle. all the muslims told him to get fcked when he tried to get them to sympathise with any form of white nationalism. they dog piled him</p>
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Stefan<br />
1 day ago<br />
I hope people saved screenshots and archived links of when they dog pilled lucas gage.</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
We aren&#8217;t asking for their help, we&#8217;re telling them what we are doing to make it so they don&#8217;t come into conflict with us as we move towards our goals.</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
kanye good example..White Lives Matter tshirt revenue went to Blacks in need</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
the key is not in &#8220;not scaring&#8221; the women, its in giving them confidence in your strength and resolve</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
1 day ago<br />
DUKE is Six Millions times The Man you, trump, and farage will ever be.</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wow, you sure are an old, idiot boomer.</p>
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Counter-Currents<br />
3 days ago<br />
Many liberals don&#8217;t fundamentally disagree with the far Left. Conservatives really don&#8217;t agree with National Socialism.</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
NeoBolsheviks prefer to say Global because they intend to delete the word and existence of Nation.</p>
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<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
efficiency and hard work was German way. Soft pleasure seekers were not the German way back then. Now days not so much</p>
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<p>@Germanicus<br />
21 hours ago(edited)<br />
You know who did care about the Palestinian cause because it aligned with their own? You know who did have diplomacy with Iran? You know who did ally with Japan and called them &#8220;honorary Aryans&#8221;? You know who did build a multi-ethnic ideological army to fight the greater enemy? The German National-Socialists.<br />
The fact these walking talking Hollywood cartoons like to highlight their most morbid takes on the televised jew-orchestrated genocide in Gaza and think that&#8217;s somehow gonna win people over, is mind-boggling. Unless of course, they&#8217;re bad actors and know what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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Stefan<br />
17 hours ago<br />
I wounder what the opinions of the old german NSs would be today if could see modern Europe&#8230;</p>
<p>@NoFunZone<br />
1 day ago<br />
its crazy to me that your average black has much higher in-group preference than the top 2% of whites(the actual nationalists). whites really do seem to fetishize the outsider.</p>
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Mr<br />
2 days ago<br />
I hope your son is allowing you to get good nights&#8217; rests, Mark! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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DaisyS<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark Collett point to a time in history when Muslims cared about a white country or any white people. Your virtue signalling is pathetic</p>
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<p>@selly<br />
1 day ago<br />
EXACTLY !!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> As i said muslims are quite happy to work with jews when it suits them. Moors and ottomans as examples. Do they have any remorse or care for the suffering of the people of Europe? No. Infact they celebrate it and wish to do it again in Europe.</p>
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Htrac<br />
2 days ago<br />
Agree with what Joel says from<br />
1:37:12<br />
. I am getting really sick of the &#8220;based Muslim alliance&#8221; and how many people in the nationalist and &#8220;far right&#8221; circles will criticise and insult you if you object to Muslims in your country or say they should be deported &#8211; and even more bizarrely, they call you Jewish (Fuentes, groypers, Lucas Gage, David Clews etc).<br />
It&#8217;s a ridiculous position to be bargaining from, that we need the support of the invaders to get our countries back and we should overlook the horrible crimes they&#8217;ve done to us because we &#8220;need&#8221; them to be on our side. Disgusting.</p>
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Earthling Carl<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark&#8217;s audio is a bit off here.</p>
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makersnameplate<br />
1 day ago<br />
Yes, very unusually so. Mark’s usually spot on with the technical stuff, and it’s the guests that have problems, but that’s flipped on this stream.</p>
<p>&#8211; 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 &#8211;<br />
2 days ago<br />
The Israel-Palestine thing is so tiresome. If Jews and Arabs want to kill each other in the sand let them have at it, they&#8217;ve been doing it to each other for centuries, and in ten thousand years they&#8217;ll still be killing each other in the dirt whether they&#8217;re using American jets or sticks and stones, the very bible some of you pro-Palestinian types thump so vehemently is a catalogue of the middle east&#8217;s centuries of ceaseless barbarity.<br />
If you think Palestinian immigrants from the conflict are bad, what will you think of Israeli immigrants when they start fleeing the sinking ship? The sad truth is that regardless of who wins, Europe loses.</p>
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Sulla<br />
2 days ago<br />
This is an excellent conversation</p>
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Will O&#8217; The Wild<br />
2 days ago<br />
1488th comment <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@RiseAgain<br />
2 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s easy to over-intellectualize everything when you&#8217;re as smart as Joel is, so appreciate his unwillingness to indulge in that. Embrace the basics. &#8220;Grug-brain&#8221; nationalism.</p>
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<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
I have moved on. Into community building. Stalking normies as a bad guy is not my bag. Money and time can be better spent on people who seek me. There is the internet and search tatics for people who care about nationism.</p>
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MasterOfStf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Great stream</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
we will be victorious, folks! We&#8217;ll come out of this stronger and wiser than ever before!</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Teach your kids about the birds and the bees, and the Negroes with STD&#8217;s!</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
ya it was a great stream. Joel is the man</p>
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AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
never relax chat \o</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
unit 8200 in this chat for sure</p>
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Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Muslim and Jews are cousins let them have a family fight. White people have to unite around our Race First 1488</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
1 day ago<br />
Ummm..During World War II, there was collaboration between some Muslim leaders and the Nazi regime, notably Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who spent time in Berlin and met with Nazi officials to discuss shared interests against Allied forces.</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
I cant figure it out. That beard is sus</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark kills them with kindness it’s awesome</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel supports a Nazi Azovs fighting Russia and China but fu@k the Palestinians</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
this is great</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
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<p>@KeepAskingForTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
$3.00<br />
I dont ask. I just say increase the vril lets go. keep on doing great work joeal</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good man Mark</p>
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<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Dead palastinian children and white people being outraged does not stop the jew, white people uniting will.</p>
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Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
TEAM WHITE</p>
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Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
The challahcaust narrative was not implanted through arguments but through a thorough media campaign of dacades</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
shabbos rogan audience will figure it out , most ppl watched Alex Jones vs Dr Duke to get here</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jewish youth like to wear beanies. Its a cryptokippah</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
altruism ONLY for your own race</p>
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Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
jews arent part of the human race</p>
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<p>@IberianVaelico<br />
3 days ago<br />
Palestinians don&#8217;t give a shit about the plight of Europeans</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s called National Defense for good reason. The ME isn&#8217;t Our Nation.</p>
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The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Oh, FFS, I don&#8217;t care about the Palestinian kids. What about the White children getting raped by muslims, Mark?</p>
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Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is strawmanning now</p>
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LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
it almost feels like Mark is purposely misunderstanding Joel</p>
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Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is totally right</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
BULLSHIT Mark</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
People like Mark are invaluable, not to say that Joel isn&#8217;t, but you should respect Mark&#8217;s experience in this.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s a self-sabotaging argument that nationalists should have no humanity. If you don&#8217;t have humanity, what moral authority can you have? How can you ask others to follow you? You have to have the moral highground if you expect to be heard.</p>
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<p>@JupiterFive<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
Lack of empathy is lack of humanity and against ns.</p>
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<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is doing the mainstream thing &#8220;hurr, let me paint you a clown version of a national socialist and let me show you based on that why you are wrong.&#8221;</p>
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The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
JOEL IS CORRECT. Plus I don&#8217;t give a F about Palestinians.</p>
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<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
average Palestinian will say &#8220;inshallah Britain will be muslim 2080&#8221;</p>
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Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Firm disagree with Mark</p>
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<p>@GaelicNord<br />
3 days ago<br />
whites cant be seen as some kind of stewards of all life on this earth. thats extremely dangeous to us. and unfair to have such a massive weight on our shoulders. we must be racially selfish. care about our own. the rest need to look after themselves. not our problem</p>
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<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is on a losing position on this here&#8230;</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
LOL boomer</p>
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Blankeon<br />
3 days ago<br />
We cant respect our occupiers</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
David duke style cowardice</p>
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<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
$3.00<br />
Hi great stream question to Joel you said you went to India as a teenager how come you went there?</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Dr Duke went to Iran and other countries to speak</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
not in a million years will nonwhites &#8220;peacefully&#8221; gtfo</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
can thank jew worship 100% for the pussification of the White Race</p>
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<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hollywood style clownish &#8220;Nazis&#8221; are just as bad as nerds in suits. Genuine national socialist ideology is not problematic</p>
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<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
$20.00<br />
#Starfieldteam</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
$5.00<br />
There&#8217;s one thing missing from this conversation and that&#8217;s Keith &#8211; do you think he&#8217;ll do a stream with you about this? he seemed to indicate he wanted to put this to bed in his Substack piece today so maybe not.</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
I think we have come quite far in the last 10 years</p>
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<p>@Wolf<br />
1 day ago<br />
I agree with Joel, it’s much easier to be friendly with other species, when they live in there on nations, but it&#8217;s and completely different reality, when they invade our country&#8217;s and live amongst us.</p>
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<p>@Operation_G<br />
1 day ago<br />
White monster :thumb_up_1:</p>
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mr<br />
1 day ago<br />
Totally agree with Joel on caring nothing about Israel or Palestinians, as for our government causing wars they can also say no to refugees, we don’t have to let them in because no one else does. I agree with Joel that mark hates Jews so much that anyone who opposes them must be lauded. Islam etc hate us and will replace us if given the chance , we must only care about our own , we may sympathise at innocents being harmed but where is the outrage over the genocide of Christian’s in the Middle East , nothing , so this shows Joel’s point perfectly because Mark never mentions their plight.</p>
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Mark Collett<br />
1 day ago<br />
Don&#8217;t misrepresent me, I have done numerous shows about Christians being slaughtered in Syria thanks to Israel&#8217;s policies.</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
2 days ago<br />
looks like Joel is trashing liberalism because it clashes with National Socialism’s core: authoritarian control and suppression of individual rights for the &#8220;common good&#8221; of the state. Nazis pushed a twisted &#8220;collective&#8221; vision, subordinate yourself to the Führer and the racial Volk. Whereas liberalism champions personal freedoms, which they saw as chaotic or degenerative. The &#8220;common good before people&#8221; vibe fits National Socialism’s propaganda.Joel’s hitting liberalism to prop up that collectivist, anti-individual streak.</p>
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Through it, not around it<br />
2 days ago<br />
Signing up to play war games in non-White countries is just way to create more non-White &#8220;refugee&#8221; immigration into White countries. That&#8217;s a fact. So if you&#8217;re a dome MAGAtard and you hate non-White &#8220;immigrants&#8221;, signing up for the military is about as retarded as it gets because it is precisely the foreign actions of White militaries that helps Jews and Jew-adjacents to increase non-White migration. But that&#8217;s too hard for a MAGAtard to understand.</p>
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<p>@Evola19<br />
2 days ago<br />
Keef is a joke</p>
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Vid<br />
3 days ago<br />
Many people making the same comment about Joel has a Jewish Telegram mod. Hitler had a Jewish doctor and Jews served in the German military so whats the problem having a random Jew as a friend?</p>
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Pure<br />
2 days ago<br />
Or random black or asian ?</p>
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Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
why are people accusing him of being a fed?</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Sermon on the Mount morals + materialist hedonism is plaguing the White race ATM imo</p>
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Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@1690Sparky<br />
100% 0/</p>
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ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
European cowardly traitors who cucked to Ottomans</p>
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Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
joel rolling his eyes like a teenage girl is very funny</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
How&#8217;s the weather in Tel Aviv, shlomo?</p>
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
England has an unspoken language of politeness the subtlety of which can be lost on foreigners. Especially if they are Australian.</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Manintoga8888<br />
It took Australian Abbos 10,000 years to invent the stick&#8230;and they didn&#8217;t even invent it.</p>
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Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is the real Race First</p>
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Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
Australians are very retarded on the whole</p>
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Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
$5.00</p>
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LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
the groomers were the ones &#8220;inciting racial hatred&#8221; through their own actions</p>
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<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
3 days ago<br />
it&#8217;s never good enough for them and reciprocity is alien to them. Helping them is seen as weakness.</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Canada = New India</p>
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Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
rediculous, he was in a FB group when he was 14 and got kicked out for having the wrong opinions, that isn&#8217;t joining Antifa lol</p>
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<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
I can&#8217;t think of a worse country to visit than India</p>
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<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
well joel was in antifa before he became NS, so not as wild as u think</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
1 day ago<br />
yeah, l say that on a vid from Joel himself.</p>
<p>@fishandsoil<br />
3 days ago<br />
NAUR</p>
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<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Traveling made me extremely pro white and racist in a good way.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hitler was anti-imperialist for that exact reason.</p>
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Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
White strike worldwide</p>
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Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
love how the church ignores the underprivileged in their own nations.</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Outspoken AntiChrists might as well be SatanicJeews and many are.</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
hahaha am I really supposed to believe that the international jewish banking families like the Rothschilds gave up some of their wealth to gentile bankers?!</p>
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ViceVersaVice<br />
3 days ago<br />
Ignoring what Israel has been happening in the middle east for 80 years is the best way to help white people?</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
germans are the true israelittes</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
Positive Christianity was 100% Biblical</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@siegkreuz<br />
Positive Christianity was not Biblical.</p>
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Carnegie<br />
2 days ago<br />
I think you&#8217;ll like the new movie Heretic. I watched it yesterday and thought it was really good. It, surprisingly, stars Hugh Grant, but the dialogue is excellent and whoever wrote it really knows about religion. So probably a jew lol.<br />
Don&#8217;t look up what it&#8217;s about, just take my word on it.</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the catholic pope created the third reich, there will be no fourth reich without the pope</p>
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Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
we are having dead white children by none whites. I have never seen any none whites come out and support the white race</p>
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LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
illegal in Canada as well</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the third reich was a success and it refers to the third holy roman catholic empire</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the third reich refers to the third holy roman catholic empire</p>
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Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
1. It wasn&#8217;t Catholic, 2. It hardly failed, it was the most sucussesful attempt at throwing off international jewry and providing a new path forward for europe</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Maybe Tom Sewell will debate Sven on raw milk next ? eh team ?</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
The Third Reich &#8220;Failed&#8221; from the OUTSIDE i.e., tons of nations ganging up on them. The ideology and policies of it was sound.</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
of*</p>
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<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
We just need the Americans not to intervene.</p>
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<p>@KeepAskingForTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Test it</p>
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Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
care for your race is emotional. quit being an autist.</p>
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<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
English grils get raped after helping Palestinians, come on Mark.</p>
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Stefan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark :thumbs_down: &#8211; Joel :thumbs_up:</p>
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<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark loves bluegums. Opinion dismissed.</p>
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark knows his Nationalism</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
my Palestinian neighbors never called me goy</p>
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<p>@JupiterFive<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark has far more experience in this area than anyone here.</p>
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<p>@frog.eyes<br />
3 days ago<br />
EUROPA FIRST BITCH!</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
catholicism is the seat of white power, the fourth reich refers to the fourth holy roman catholic empire</p>
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<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Wow, bad take from Mark on Joels x ban, Joel wasn&#8217;t banned because hes ns&#8230; joel was banned because hes anti-jew.</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Its because he is Prowhite</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
was supposed to be an upward arrow</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
putting any trust in nonwhites is not smart</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
I bet you&#8217;ve listened to thousands of hours c rap cadence.</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
look how that worked out</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Join The Great Shunning of Alien Stalkers.</p>
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<p>@GaelicNord<br />
3 days ago<br />
we must be racially selfish. we must be racially exclusive. we must have a racially selfish centered sense of morality.</p>
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<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Since US is only 57% white the only way to really fix the problem is by having a constitutional convention so it says that Euros have to be more than 2/3rd of the country&#8217;s population.</p>
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TheLastBoyScout<br />
2 days ago<br />
that would be nice but I don&#8217;t see that ever happening</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
LOL. Mark loves his cursing</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Go Free! w/ CommonSense Nationalism <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26aa.png" alt="⚪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
At least we aren&#8217;t speaking Ebonics.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f5e3.png" alt="🗣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
bitch ass nigga hoe</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well said Mark</p>
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Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
$10.00<br />
Hey Joel, Tom recently spoke on Keith Woods&#8217; cringeworthy and humiliating and cringeworthy DMs that were leaked by an adult worker he caught feelings for, named Slayter. She dated rappers and was disowned by her family. Why did Keith court her and fall in love with her? Could you psychoanalyse this</p>
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<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
Racism doesn&#8217;t have to be yelling racial slurs to be fair.</p>
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Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
1920s commies probably were more &#8220;right wing&#8221; than today&#8217;s rightoids</p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
you don’t say the 14 words and then say “bad optics” : he’s relitigating the optics war</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
We are far more schooled than any Nationalist group after WWII</p>
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<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel knows Christ Cucks are weak like Jesus</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
if you want the fourth reich in 2033, become a roman catholic papist</p>
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Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
MARK -SPOT ON</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
he&#8217;s a race cucked coward</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
LOL no its not</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the third reich refers to the third holy roman catholic empire</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Sounds like Joel listens to Alex Linder <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f61b.png" alt="😛" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
“Nationalists” pushing Azov are to be avoided</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
2 days ago<br />
No, that’s a leap. National socialism isn’t just nationalism with a social twist, it’s a specific ideology tied to Nazism, cooked up by the Nazis with all their baggage: racism, tyranny, and genocide. Nationalism today doesn’t automatically mean national socialism. lt’s not the same beast. You’re conflating a broad idea with a toxic historical invention.</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Your telegram moderator is Jewish</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Another one of these Viiking Adam Green totally not Jewish types</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@vettekid407<br />
I don&#8217;t want to speak for Joel, but I think he&#8217;s been distancing himself from Christianity.</p>
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<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
again, conformity is your enemy here.</p>
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Enlightened Despot<br />
1 day ago<br />
100% agree universalism, which came into its own with the Enlightenment is the #1 problem, across the board, in philosophy, politics and in my area, the law.</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;ve been listening to Joel Davis speak for about an hour and a half now, addressing his group of followers. This organization seems destined to fail. The online behavior of their leaders and members demonstrates an inability to engage in respectable conversation, whether with people of other races or even those of their own. I consistently notice these individuals resorting to remarks like &#8220;You&#8217;re brown, you must be a Jew&#8221; and similar nonsense. It appears they can only be civil within their own small circle. This lack of basic conversational ability reveals the sort of people this group attracts. Regardless of what Joel claims, the leaders and members of this organization are incapable of participating in a proper debate or discussion on various platforms. I completely agree with Mark&#8217;s assessment.<br />
Having listened to this for 90 minutes, it’s clear Joel continues to make one inaccurate statement after another. See my previous comments. Libertarianism and nationalism as enemies? Does Joel inhabit some fantasy world of his own? Anyone with a practical understanding of reality who watches this will likely think, &#8220;I had some reservations about joining, but Joel has resolved them, I will certainly not align myself with a group holding such distorted perspectives.</p>
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<p>@Ol8Inch<br />
1 day ago<br />
Don’t get me wrong I want to like Joel dude but I have to side with Mark on this one. You can claim all day that we only need a small percent of white guys to radicalize to take the country back but it’s just simply not true. You need support from the normies. I know all these damn guys in the US talk all day about how only 3% fought against the crown but it was the fact that the vast majority of the people who weren’t fighting supported the revolutionary cause. The revolution would have never worked if the average everyday settlers would have supported the crown. I know he’s angry, shit I am too. But instead of looking at everyone who does or thinks something you don’t like as beneath you, you need to understand that we are all victims of this subversion. He himself was a fkn antifa fag for shits sake. Instead of acting like white power Jesus he needs to humble himself and start meeting people where they are. We can’t afford to alienate every single white person who does or says something we don’t like. Calling people names and attacking them is only going to ostracize the vast majority of people. That’s probably why his group can only muster up 50 people at a March.</p>
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LouisMarschalko<br />
2 days ago<br />
Mark Collett is a crypto Jew as well, so it is not surprising and PA is backed by an overt Ashkenazi jew named as Natty, Jason Kohne is another crypto agent.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
Its good you have hard done undesputed evidence to back your claims.</p>
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LouisMarschalko<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
Of course I have ..<br />
Collett waves the Jew China Commie Flag<br />
<div style="width: 640px;" class="wp-video"><video class="wp-video-shortcode" id="video-37227-3" width="640" height="360" preload="metadata" controls="controls"><source type="video/mp4" src="https://i.imgur.com/cJsJwAT.mp4?_=3" /><a href="https://i.imgur.com/cJsJwAT.mp4">https://i.imgur.com/cJsJwAT.mp4</a></video></div></p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
2 days ago<br />
French and jews can look pretty similar. I’m guessing Mark has Huguenot ancestry. As for Kohne well….</p>
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LouisMarschalko<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
Must be another Kohencidence, same as Mr Antifa Joel Davis.<br />
<div style="width: 640px;" class="wp-video"><video class="wp-video-shortcode" id="video-37227-4" width="640" height="360" preload="metadata" controls="controls"><source type="video/mp4" src="https://i.imgur.com/MJk2mHo.mp4?_=4" /><a href="https://i.imgur.com/MJk2mHo.mp4">https://i.imgur.com/MJk2mHo.mp4</a></video></div></p>
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Captain Myles Keogh<br />
2 days ago<br />
Something not said is that Irishmen don’t need far right politics because they have traditional ethnocentric Irish nationalism. That’s were Keith is coming from.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
Why does Joel look like a Bum.</p>
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renunciate<br />
2 days ago<br />
Maybe he’s growing out his hair &amp; it’s in a goofy-looking stage right now, so he’s hiding it under a hat? That’s what it looks like to me. You get a little peak at curls when he turns his head. Curly hair can be a wild mess as it grows out.</p>
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Vulpes Inculta<br />
2 days ago<br />
Dont know about curls, but he gives off hube pot smoking bum vibes with the way he looks and speaks. The beard also looks disgusting.</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
2 days ago<br />
I want my government to stop killing people. Palestinians, Vietnamese, Iraqis I don’t care. It needs to stop.</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is the best in the Anglosphere right now. We just had a major melt down in the Colonies here. White Nationalism is really not an option in the US. We need a different way. I think Brits could do it tho.</p>
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rex<br />
3 days ago<br />
johadhu davis-singh</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
lol I give Handsome Truth the credit for that one.</p>
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<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
He&#8217;s jew-jacketing Joel, so he&#8217;s not acting White</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoels enemies always end up being Zogs enemies</p>
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<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joels mods are just Alex Jones fans. Soros and Zelinsky are Nazis, the EU are Nazis and therefore they all are good.</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
whites were originally the only race on earth created by christ in his image</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Do Scandinavians ever have curly hair? My Khazar gene alarm is going off.</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
germans are the israelites of the bible</p>
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<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
your lossing the audience Joel, quick play some gay anime to win them back</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is a Fed! Pushing his psychopath nationalism. &#8220;Why should I care about dead children if they aren&#8217;t white&#8221; says Yoel Davis</p>
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Stefan<br />
1 day ago(edited)<br />
Where is the reciprocity? I have not seen Palestinians and other middle easterns condemn all the murders and rapes on Europeans. In my country(Sweden) they work closely with the left and they oppose a Swedish Sweden.</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
every white need to unify under catholicism, the third reich was roman catholic</p>
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<p>@Callout<br />
1 day ago<br />
so this is all false then?<br />
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany</p>
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Siegkreuz<br />
1 day ago<br />
(((wikipedia))) lol</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel is going to lead an aryan expedition to fight china over Taiwan</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
What race is Joel?</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Thats a very Jewy mindset. Shekels for access goy. Khazar vibe alert.</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hey Yoel Davis do you still have a Jewish AZOG supporting Janny moderating your telegram chat?</p>
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<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Duke is obsolete for the current times</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
we just need to copy the jews&#8230;become super tribal</p>
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<p>@What3<br />
3 days ago<br />
The same strategy jews used against hamas is the same strategy they used against national socialism. On its own national socialism/facism wasnt able to bring down jewry, so jews helped it along, they DID NOT found these movements but they HELPED THEM ALONG behind the scenes. Same way hamas didnt know some of its funding was coming from israel/jews behind the scenes is the same way national socialists and fascists didnt know they were being helped along by their enemy. For example, benito moussolini worked with/for Mi5 before and druing ww1.</p>
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<p>@What3<br />
3 days ago<br />
Damn, people dont get it, im not saying stay away from facism, im talking about being aware of the herzl strategy, dumbasses;<br />
The anti semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti semetic countries our allies &#8211; 84, the complete diaries of thedore herzl, proof;<br />
https://i.postimg.cc/9VrQhn4j/unknown.webp</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel Davis loves when Aryans doe for zog in Ukraine</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yea, Jimbo gots it. His psycopathy towards Palestinians reveals a non European genetic element</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel Davis &#8221; I am a national socialist and that is why I have Jewish telegram moderators</p>
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<p>@Orkin_Man<br />
3 days ago<br />
Who knew, Mark won the debate</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel Davis wants aryans to fight Russia and China but shits on Palestinians fighting Israel</p>
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<p>@What3<br />
3 days ago<br />
He&#8217;s a good guy, he&#8217;s just not that bright so he cant see (or doesnt care) about contradictions, like any true purist.</p>
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<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nazi Joel with his Jewish Telegram mods</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
call out the persecution of Whites should be the focus..holocaust fake or not isnt needed for promoting prowhiteism</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Focus less on jews and non whites and focus more on our persecution is a better strategy..</p>
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Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
big mark W</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Im Italian. So non white. I can admit it. It was nice to hear from Adam Greens brother tonight</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
Adam Green is good. Me like. I’m done with Christianity.</p>
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Teutonic Truth<br />
1 day ago<br />
AdamGreene should at least change his first name since he is averse to everything Biblical.</p>
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TheLastBoyScout<br />
2 days ago<br />
Italians are white but if you don&#8217;t wanna see yourself as such that&#8217;s fine but you don&#8217;t speak for all of us, clearly</p>
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<p>@siegkreuz<br />
3rd reich failed.. .we need better tactics</p>
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<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
I suspect he has genes from the Ukranian region</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
screw the holocaust..we dont need to even care about holocaust..just go focus on the victimization of White people directly</p>
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Long Knife<br />
2 days ago<br />
&#8220;From 1945 to 2018, the German government paid approximately $86.8 billion in restitution and compensation to Holocaust victims and their heirs. Germany has also identified Nazi-looted objects – including art works, books, and objects within larger collections – and has returned 16,000 objects to survivors and their heirs over the last 20 years. Thousands more pieces of looted art are still missing worldwide. Rising anti-Semitism throughout Europe including in Germany, and especially in former East Germany, coupled with polls showing the need to increase Holocaust education among Germany’s youth, highlight the importance of Germany’s continued dedication to fostering a culture of remembrance.&#8221;<br />
https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/germany/<br />
don&#8217;t worry, NWG &amp; Co. will understand eventually&#8230;<br />
&#8220;After retirement, Cameron and his wife visited Yad Vashem, the Holocaust memorial museum in Israel. He thought that the museum&#8217;s focus on the personal history of individuals and their stories led to a better understanding of the reality of the Holocaust. Then living in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in 1988 he founded his museum with the help of philanthropist (((Daniel Bader))), having collected materials on the African-American experience in the US for many years.&#8221;<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Black_Holocaust_Museum<br />
Less</p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Question to Joel:Do you agree naziflags will only turn off most whites in general?and if so what flags will attract more whites to prowhiteism?Won&#8217;t flags saying &#8220;END ANTIWHITEISM&#8221; &#8220;END ANTIWHITE HATRED&#8221; etc. recruit MORE WHITES?Whats YOUR BEST flag for prowhite recruitment Joel?</p>
<p>0<br />
5</p>
<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel Davis has a Jewish Azog telegram Mod</p>
<p>1<br />
8</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
but the palestinian children <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62d.png" alt="😭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
OK..lets say Holocaust proven fake?So what?Doesnt make the persecution of our people less. .we need to just focus on white persecution period..screw the holocaust</p>
<p>0<br />
8<br />
TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Question to Joel:Do you agree naziflags will only turn off most whites in general?and if so what flags will attract more whites to prowhiteism?Won&#8217;t flags saying &#8220;END ANTIWHITEISM&#8221; &#8220;END ANTIWHITE HATRED&#8221; etc. recruit MORE WHITES?Whats YOUR BEST flag for prowhite recruitment Joel?</p>
<p>0<br />
8</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
But he is Jewish. You can tell from demeanor and antipathy</p>
<p>1<br />
10</p>
<p>@Norman<br />
4 hours ago<br />
at least you got all your squibbly wibblies out &amp; about</p>
<p>@Pelasgian<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Honestly, David Duke might be popular among non whites, but how popular is he among whites.</p>
<p>@dnhotd<br />
11 hours ago<br />
all these aspirations and grand plans are just big talk unless you can fulfil and solve the JQ. Can&#8217;t do that without gaining power and prominence first. Complete utter catch 22. Only chance is if you slowly and gradually move more rightwing until whites become a near minority and a widespread &#8220;awakening&#8221; occurs where total electoral and political revolution occurs</p>
<p>Abby Eagle<br />
1 day ago<br />
If you were travelling on a plane with a small child and the cabin should depressurise and an oxygen mask should drop from the ceiling &#8211; would you put the mask on yourself 1st or on the child 1st? If you put it on the child first and then you should go unconscious then who is going to take care of the child. You have to make yourself #1 and be like a navy seal before you can take care of others. Too many Westerners are putting themselves and their country second. (This is the NLP Meta Program Attention Direction Sort)<br />
https://www.abbyeagle.com/nlp-coaching-resources/nlp-meta-programs.php</p>
<p>HydraulicHydra<br />
1 day ago<br />
The amount of basedness is off the charts with this one!</p>
<p>@Wolf<br />
1 day ago<br />
Yes, we need ourselves to help ourselves and not trust the invaders they are only here for there own good.</p>
<p>@Callout<br />
2 days ago<br />
around 24 min mark:<br />
Joel, you’re turning reality upside down. Liberalism isn’t against nationalism, it often works with it. Look at liberal democracies like Britain or the U.S.: national pride plus individual rights, no problem. You’re twisting liberalism into some anti-nation bogeyman to prop up your National Socialist pitch. Nazis hated it for its freedoms, not because it kills national identity. That’s your spin, not the truth. you are flipping the world to fit your ideology.</p>
<p>@Callout<br />
2 days ago<br />
around the 20 min in the vid:Joel, you’re off base. Liberalism and democracy aren’t opposites, they often go hand in hand. Liberalism pushes individual rights and representative government, which fits with democracy’s core of people choosing their leaders. Look at liberal democracy: elections plus freedoms like speech. Joel, you might be twisting liberalism into something it’s not, maybe to bash it as weak or globalist. Truth is, they’re not enemies.</p>
<p>Roy Vey<br />
2 days ago<br />
1:01:13<br />
&#8211; Very good!</p>
<p>eriksKanal<br />
2 days ago(edited)<br />
You have to cut the head of the dragon. The enemies weapon is the money. They do not have any power without their money. The solution is to create a new currency based on love instead of greed.</p>
<p>@UsilleekHunt<br />
2 days ago<br />
Why is Mark dressed as a Monk</p>
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Mark Collett<br />
2 days ago<br />
i love the oversized hoody</p>
<p>@chambleth5<br />
2 days ago<br />
ETLB is low-iq idiocy. It is filled with lies. If you like it, you like lies and your probably kinda stupid.</p>
<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nick Griffen always seemed very credible to me. I’m loving Mark’s failure analysis of the BNP.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago<br />
No, it was Griffin who started to steer the movement down the wrong road, check the piece below</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
2 days ago<br />
Actually I&#8217;ve updated that as there was 6 pages, check the new one below<br />
https://odysee.com/@RonP1:8/IMG_1151_IMG_1152_IMG_1153_IMG_1154_IMG_1155_IMG_1156:1</p>
<p>1<br />
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
2 days ago<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p>1<br />
0<br />
The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
big if true</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
Callaghan might be the best Starfielder ?</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
good anyway</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
lol , good one</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
GO CALLAGHAN</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)<br />
Is Joel a Sikh!</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
I started wearing a beanie when I moved to the PNW. I really like having my ears covered.</p>
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<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
test stream?</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
good stream</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
GREAT STREAM</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
STARFIELDTEAM \o <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@SonOfOdin<br />
3 days ago<br />
good stream</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
GN o/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
14 &amp; 88 o/ Heil</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
#STARFIELDTEAM</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Blood and Honour</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
#STARFIELDTEAM</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
sinecure</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
can we get one last #starfieldteam from joel before he goes</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
you are White relax Brother</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
this was kismet</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
:joy: :joy:</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
rent free</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
popular figures, each taking part of the correct view, and part of the wrong view, arguing with each other. can&#8217;t imagine a better way to stymie organization and effectiveness</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
we know yer both eskimos</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Great stream</p>
<p>ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago<br />
I&#8217;ve got that t-shirt in blue ha</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
JD is like a heat seeking missile zeroing on the target</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
well, since you asked</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
commie jew fed</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
can i call joel a cunt tho <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
\\\ o/</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Thanks great stream, Joel you are great</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Great stream o/</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
o/</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel hasn&#8217;t even drank any gin during this whole show? Crazy.</p>
<p>ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago<br />
I support Joel&#8217;s Adidas Classic wear</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Jimbo<br />
any evidence ?</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
You are not white</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Heil Joel and heil Mark! WFP!</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
o/</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
There&#8217;s always one or two&#8230;</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
exactly</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
some real retards in here. light switch brains</p>
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
3 days ago<br />
Kosher switch.</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
SAS</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
me too</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m old enough to remember the saying, &#8220;Death Before Dishonor&#8221;</p>
<p>@SomaComa<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s a testament to you two that it didn&#8217;t degenerate into a monkey, shit slinging contest in view of the subject matter.</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Total agree</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@1690Sparky<br />
bingo&#8230;blood brothers</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
arabs arent attacking jews they are both the same tribe, fake fighting to get foreign aid from white countries</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Albanians tried it the hard way and look at them now, just another mongrel horde.</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
spot on!</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Great conversation</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Great conversation, very good</p>
<p>ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago<br />
I missed this, I&#8217;ll have to wind it back</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
SHUT IT DOWN</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
They survived and stayed very blonde and blue eyed.</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
attack and invite</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
Tommys still got the balance to pay on his loans from Robert Shillman</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Would you rather have white Islam or brown &#8220;western&#8221; societies</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
I like Muslims in the middle east fighting zionist scum</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Based Charles Martel</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
I want everybody to go back home so I can concentrate my hate on the French again.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
look at their flag</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
bosnians arent a real thing you have bosniaks(muslims) serbians(orthodox) croatian(catholic)</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
What&#8217;s with the Starfield lore? I&#8217;m in the dark on that one.</p>
<p>ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
why is it multiple choice? I don&#8217;t want either anywhere near me</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Lol this is like the rebellious adventurous son having out with his cringe out of touch Gen X dad</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
I found British humor to be alot dryer and clever, it might have gone over starfields head</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
I dare you to interview norm, mark &#8230;.interview norm, straight to jail</p>
<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yoel is a nazi fighting Zogs enemies.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
STFU</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
we have problems with other groups.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is one of the best guys in this thing</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
I rather live next to a Bosnian than to a Negro.</p>
<p>ToffeeL10<br />
3 days ago<br />
We can be civil with them, but we don&#8217;t need them speaking for us like Robinstein does</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Kosher Nationalist</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
rainbow formally white countries u mean</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
never heard of joel before</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
joel looks scotish swedish mix, some sort of nordic viking</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
Yeah but they can carry sand and critters just fine.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Aussies, cultured thugs ?</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
british isles are my homelands too.</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
Aboriginals built Australia, they carried all that scorched sand and venomous animals there for millions of years</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Aye up <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> mates o/ <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e6.png" alt="🇨🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> too</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
all jannies are jews and masons tbf</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LongKnife1934<br />
lol</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
3 days ago<br />
just wait till you get a couple beers in them</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
are they all nuts</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
not even being mean</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
ive known many aussies to be fair</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
joking ?</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
What about it?</p>
<p>Mr Iggs<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
did they invent the digareido?</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
Welsh/AngloSaxon</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
Muppet Nationalism team</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Abos turned Australia into a desert pooping all over the continent.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
the Jim Henson approach</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good show, guys, great discussion <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
I want muh muney fukn</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
This has been a great stream tbf</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
these Starfield guys are out of control like Randbot</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is a real one</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Do you accept HawkTuah coins, Mark?</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
if all Australian men were like JD Australia would be an ethno-state in 24 hrs</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
FUG YOU PAY ME</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Misers</p>
<p>Mighty_Whitey<br />
3 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> pay up, bitch</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
pay what you owe chat</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
can you take your talking points back to 2017</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;fake&#8221; that call-out to recognize its benefit to you.</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
it&#8217;s a nightmare</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
did an indian parasite eat your funnybone?</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is the future o/</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
&#8230;and both the holohoax and Palestine are opportunities for calling out the people who persecute us.</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hail Davis</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
The Starfield Question</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
INCREDIBLE India, saaar</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes they do have curly/wavy hair too</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
cope</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
WHITE POWER JOEL 0/</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Question to Joel:Do you agree naziflags will only turn off most whites in general?and if so what flags will attract more whites to prowhiteism?Won&#8217;t flags saying &#8220;END ANTIWHITEISM&#8221; &#8220;END ANTIWHITE HATRED&#8221; etc. recruit MORE WHITES?Whats YOUR BEST flag for prowhite recruitment Joel?</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
I love those that hate Israel and you should too, Khazar</p>
<p>@Lone<br />
3 days ago<br />
Correct.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Shamrockshake<br />
It really is. Jeets are everywhere.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is solid</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
the starfield stare</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
More</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Manintoga8888<br />
Kent ate his funny bones</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
joel hitting the chat with that starfield stare</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Maldric<br />
Australians also did the Ocean dub of DBZ</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good point superchatter</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
make it happen haha</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
Australians are only interesting because of a shitty Bethesda game. sad.</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
the bible warns against tolerating fake jews, we havent been practicing that</p>
<p>@fishandsoil<br />
3 days ago<br />
Todd Howard owns Australia</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
what? was that meant to relate to the relevance of the holohoax?</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
JD waxes eloquent for half an hour or one word response… nothing in between, lol.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
#Starfieldteam</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
#Starfieldteam</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
thats a messed up thing to say to joel</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
ive never washed the feet of a pajeet imperial, can you say the same</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
turned out it had the opposite effect, lmao</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
https://xcancel.com/Ehrenkrieg2</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8216;enriching&#8217; lol</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
USAID program lol</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
I also have it on good authority that aussies are light weights when it comes to drinking</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
doubleteamingfield team!</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
#STARFIELDTEAM</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
I miss the aryan death-stare he used to do</p>
<p>Australian Nativist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Let&#8217;s do this again fellas. This was tough, but worthwhile.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@siegkreuz<br />
Acts 17 promotes nationalism, but beyond that the Bible doesn&#8217;t offer much in the way of good advice for Whites to defend our nations against invaders.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
no..Israel bombing kids is in the now and relevant..but again..Media antiwhite&#8230;Netflix antiwhite..Govmnt antiwhite is way more effective than even caring about Israel bomning..screw Israel..focus is on OUR PEOPLE and that we are persecuted</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
joel scaring the hoes</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
wp o/</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jews are just another sort of sandnegroes believing to be especially important.</p>
<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
based stoic White man.</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is just authentic. Wasn&#8217;t funny.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is in WAR mode lol</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
JD dead pan humour</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keep on topic. Drop the soap opera stuff</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
they are not connected to the bible</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
modern jews are from turkey</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Psychoanysis is jewish</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
Author of the book &#8220;Positive Christianity&#8221; was arrested and sent to a concentration camp on the personal orders of Adolf Hitler himself. lol</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
An important step in destroying narrative control is to demystfy the enemy&#8217;s sacred cows. It helps that it&#8217;s built off of disprovable lies.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
Exactly</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
The only thing they don&#8217;t allow is Whites only.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
we were talking about this on Heel turn in 2019 Joel</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@siegkreuz<br />
o/</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
very much like saying &#8220;don&#8217;t look at israel bombing kids&#8221; &#8230;you&#8217;re just throwing important history that supports your perspective in the trash if you don&#8217;t look at people like Germar Rudolf&#8217;s work</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER<br />
this ^</p>
<p>ViceVersaVice<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s always worrisome when someone is just getting started and think they have it all figured out.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
For sourced facts on the spirituality of the Reich see:<br />
https://xcancel.com/Ehrenkrieg2</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
So we have to accept complete BS, this = Great Britain in 2025</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
That&#8217;s why they made any discussion of it de-facto illegal.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
shabbos cracker</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
beanies are comfy</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Im getting Salty Cracker vibes off of this guy</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
cool mornings right now</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER<br />
oh okay cool</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
early onset balding</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mass exposure of the truth surrounding the holohoax needs to happen. Heavy handed Jewish censorship of the truth is not possible in the information/Internet age. The truth regarding this event needs to go mainstream</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
it’s winter in Starfield</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@whitedrake<br />
I know man, I&#8217;m just posting the raw on the source for the jew nonsense that gets posted here and elsewhere</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
https://x.com/DarkRavenVolk/status/1903426483944636689</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why is an aussie wearing a beanie? Is it even cold down there?</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@siegkreuz<br />
lol:</p>
<p>@Jimbo<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Brutusch<br />
Hitler cared about Palestinians you f*cking FED</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
good question</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER<br />
Gall is a Jew with an agenda</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
that axs well</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
Richard Steigmann-Gall the former Director of the Jewish Studies Program published The Holy Reich through Cambridge University Press, which explored Nazi conceptions of Christianity in 2003</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
Sven should do a cooking show</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
It was the allies fault for destroying the supply lines</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Lmao, joining WN to save the Palestinians</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Does Keith still associate with Nick Fuentes? Is this the reason why he sounds more cucked now?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
110%</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the first 50% of this regarding directness, totally makes sense. rejecting stances on and engagement w/ foreign policy I just don&#8217;t get</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
test it</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith is scared</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
he will fold fast</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
The Joel versus Drew Pavlou debate was great</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith is a wimp</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith&#8217;s got cold feet maybe</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Are people retarded in Starfield ? what’s in the water there</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yeah DEBATE TIME</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
maybe randbots not a unique case</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
are all Australians as dumb as randbot?</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
expsure. lol thats keiths mo. ally with catboy nick for the views<br />
then tries to pull a moral fag argument</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Here is a JPOST headline from right now: &#8220;Gaza relocation plan begins: 70 Gazans depart for Europe&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
o/</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
This is why the Jews have no problem making non whites fear white nationalists.</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keiths strength is writing more than live debate</p>
<p>Cone of Silence<br />
3 days ago<br />
83% of Americans were opposed to going to war with Germany before pearl harhour</p>
<p>The Goyim Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
isn&#8217;t Keith and Nick Fuentes boyfriends</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@1690Sparky<br />
1488 o/</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Purposefully misunderstanding Joel</p>
<p>ViceVersaVice<br />
3 days ago<br />
Now I understand what Stryker was saying about these goofballs.</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
yes. It&#8217;s not as though they extend the same to us. Why are Whites the only ones expected to partake in this sort of performative altruism?</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
14 words says it all and 88 precepts</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith O&#8217;Brien?</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
moot point from mark, i agree with joel</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
that isn&#8217;t what Joel said lol</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
different things work for different countries</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
It is not collateral damage. It is the deliberate and purposeful mass murder of innocent children, babies and civilians. We must condemn these demons. We should be appalled by what they are doing and getting away with</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
I would never ally with someone without empathy for anyone other than their own small Jewy tribe</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m still pissed Albanians and Bosnian didn&#8217;t return home after the war.</p>
<p>@IberianVaelico<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites need to stop giving a f* about everyone else. SPECIALLY when WE already have more than enough problems to focus on</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
agree joel</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
But your country doesn&#8217;t have only white people, right?</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
r/JoelDavisTheSupremeGentleman</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
it’s tactical Joel</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well said, Joel</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
think about two things st once? Joel cant hold all these limes</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Give me a break. This is antiithetical to whiteness</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
If 10 billion of your tax dollars per year were being sent to Perth to pay for this kid&#8217;s broken arm, yes, you should care about it.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
r/thejoel <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Kent<br />
LOL</p>
<p>ViceVersaVice<br />
3 days ago<br />
They are going through them to get to you fool.</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
joel is a modderator on r/iameuphoric</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
arabs wont attack jews they are the same tribe</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Arabs are like Hispanics they president is always Whiter than the population</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Oooga booga. Only my tribe matters</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
The British made the bed of the Palestinians. Get a grip, Joel</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Kent<br />
How dare you slander God&#8217;s Chosen People!!!</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
you know what is popular? Being a cold psychopath weirdo.</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel couldn&#8217;t do what they&#8217;ve done to Palestine without the money &amp; militaries from our countries</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel doesn&#8217;t get that we won&#8217;t get paid back from the jews leaching off white countries so it&#8217;s not just about killings</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
most “Arabs” in Syria and Lebanon have White admixture from Britain and France Sykes Picot agreement era</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
I remember my father showing us National Geographic journals with pictures from starving Negroes when we wasted food. I never cared about the Negroes lol</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Thats a very negroid mindset</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
100%</p>
<p>@Chris</p>
<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
agreed</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
BASED</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
Do you think you can bring about &#8220;cutting them off&#8221; without engaging w/ the shit they&#8217;re doing in Gaza?</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
arabs and jews are the same tribe, they wont attcak each other</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Live Pay-Per-View event: Watching the Muslims destroy Israel hahaha</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
I didn&#8217;t expect to go this deep</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark should make a bigger and constant stink about white girls being raped in england, than whining about brown people in a third world country.</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
the moral argument is the only force pushing back against the jews in the west so far</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
So don&#8217;t try to make jews the Pariahs of the world by highlighting their crimes? Good thinking.</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
treat others the way they treat you and your people</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
exactly</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
IF all arabs and jews died our world would be ten times better</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
rational but people remember Joel was America First , he’s more hardcore now which is good</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is right</p>
<p>The Goyim Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Palestinians and Israelis wiping each other out would be the best outcome</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
We can&#8217;t care about terrible things all over the world.</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Its your money killing their children</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
*matters</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
MOOOOOSLIM!!!</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
What Joel just said is what I think.</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Jeffrey-D<br />
3 days ago<br />
good point Joel</p>
<p>Australian Nativist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
Yes. They should have prepared better for this discussion. It</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
And if we&#8217;re basically going to recuse ourselves from any perspective on foreign engagement, we&#8217;ve just thrown the largest and most affective arena of politics in the trash. that&#8217;s absurd</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
i</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
We have to destroy our enemy to win. Israel is our enemy. Forget about Palestine, what to me as an American is Israel controls DC, and is essentially a foreign occupational force.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good lord</p>
<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark getting nervous</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
supporting Israel is not pro white</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
We oppose the wars because they harm Whites, I DGAF about Palestinians.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
White people need to unite not divide over other races</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
this is brothers talking past each other</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
you cant trust them if we want to make our own institutions and clubs</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
imo</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
? What? what exactly is mark arguing here for? i feel like Mark argues past joel, joel is saying &#8220;My own country first.&#8221; and Mark argues &#8220;world police&#8221;???</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Obviously we don&#8217;t need to take EITHER side with other races&#8217; conflicts.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
exactly you don’t want to go around making more enemies</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
Indianization of America is the best thing that could happen now. The pajeets will totally neutralize America&#8217;s ability to do the bidding of yids</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
you cannot help them without throwing off the Jew which requires focusing on ourselves in the first place</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
100% Joel TEAM WHITE</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Anglo compassion VS Aussie fire and heart</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
white countries need to stop being cowards and say they want white super majorities</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
all whites need to unify under roman catholicism, the third reich refers to the third holy roman catholic empire</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nah man, we should totally die for the Jews. Gods chosen after all</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
maybe Starfield has different Arabs ? in USA they just run restaurants</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
I give a shit</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
No, frame it as Israel is your enemy, has purchased traitors ans silences us with media control. They are the occupiers of our capitals in the west. forget the browns, that&#8217;s not what it&#8217;s about.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
White First thinking means we don&#8217;t fight for jews.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
both?</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Is mark stupid or deaf?</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
exactly, so screw it</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hannity• Vance 2028</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
now the world police is DEI</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Every decent nationalist should condemn the deliberate slaughter of innocent children, babies and civilians by Zionist Jewry. They are demonic scum who get away with deliberate mass murder because of their control of Western governments &amp; the mass media</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Of course take our own side, but let&#8217;s exploit the enemies weakest front too.</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
3 hour stream? l</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s getting a bit muddled.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel doesn&#8217;t deserve to exist because they can&#8217;t without the US</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
TEAM WHITE fug the nons&#8230;.</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
but what would normus do?</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well said, Joel!</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel is nothing without our help.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
left and right it’s 2025 ? they both are run by scum</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8230;but the mainstream is retarded. What do you actually understand about the conflict?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
NO! Nats are dif</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is not wrong</p>
<p>Uncle A&#8217;s Ice Cream Shop<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Take our own side</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
100%</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Iraq war stopped the US from having Mag Lev coast to coast</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
its the reason why people like Candice Owens are so successful</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is 100% correct about everything so far</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@JupiterFive<br />
Empathy for your Own kind is fine&#8230;.</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel is essentially the occupational army. you have to defeat them.</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
But why Mark?</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why invest any emotion into foreign conflicts if we need it for ourselves.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
this reminds me of the debate where Moike schooled himfor 2 hours</p>
<p>@8BigMatt88<br />
3 days ago<br />
HUGE JOEL W</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Take things from jews, the winners. They operate based on moral particularism i.e., what is good for the jews is what is good.</p>
<p>Uncle A&#8217;s Ice Cream Shop<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
I just care about the White race now.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why are we complicating things? It&#8217;s so obvious the wooden door brigade = all the worlds problems</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
sad that some White people are so afraid and paralyzed they think they need the approval and support of nons who hate White people far more than they will ever hate jews</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
But bad things are happening all over the world, we are very selective about who we care about.</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
I dont like seeing White Girls getting gang raped by the mongrel hoardes</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites first and only.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t care about the Middle East.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;oh, let me whine about brown people in a country, that will help me in my country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
ghoulish <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
A10 aryan eyes</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
the CCP is a big problem to Canada as well.</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good points on both sides</p>
<p>@fixdsm<br />
3 days ago<br />
Has Mark commented yet on Joels beautiful eyes?a</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
This is so tedious, We shouldn&#8217;t give a damn about brown people in countries that are not ours&#8230; we should care about asserting dominance, gaining power and recover our nations.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
All we have to do is defund the jews and refuse to fight for them, that will defang them.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark wins again</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
R-tards still think Georgie Boy Bush was the one thinking up all those ME wars hahaha it was the jewish neo-cons under him.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Then they focused in on Ireland out of sheer spite.</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
whats with the whiny pouty tone all of a sudden?</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel is a mortal enemy. You have to defeat them, politically or otherwise, to regain sovereignty.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
yeah</p>
<p>@collatz</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
But nobody other than y&#8217;all is framing this in terms of a fundamental emotional motivation. We just recognize how killing children is nasty af</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
get him</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Muzzies and Jeews don&#8217;t belong In Europe.</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
The dominance of Israel in the ME comes from us not being in control of our nations.</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
more camera phones for both sides, let the tik tocker see who the real barbarians are&#8230;..</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Empathy for Nons is Pointless////</p>
<p>@Clyde<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel’s got this; Mark has experience but …this has got us nowhere</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Shut the borders and it&#8217; not our fcking problem anymore.</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is on the right side of this, imo</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;If it wasn&#8217;t Israel&#8221; &#8230;nobody said we don&#8217;t have a motivation to focus on this. Wtf is your point there Joel?</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LiquidZ00<br />
\\ o/</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
That&#8217;s right!</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
they&#8217;re not coming here because muh genocide&#8230;.they&#8217;re coming here because jews and our traitorous governments</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Let&#8217;s not forget the part the Jews dupes the Freemasons are playing in all this</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
that is the issue here, holding firm on to things that didn&#8217;t work, don&#8217;t work and won&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
SPOT ON, MARK</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Pakistan was never bombed, yet they flood into England</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
White people need to look inwards and focus on our own above all else in order to throw off the Jewish shackles which will in the end eliminate their power and ability to do what they do re expanding Israels borders unopposed in the first place.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
Exactly. Always appeasing.</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
FUG TEAM BROWN</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
I hate Israel because they control our politicians, used us like mercenaries, silenced us and spilled our blood</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
we are not obligated to be the world police&#8230;.folk first!</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
beta males always want the easy way out</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
No, we&#8217;re not pretending. It&#8217;s genuinely messed up what happens there. I still care more about my own people. This makes zero sense.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nobody is saying go out with swastikas tattooed on your forehead&#8230; joel is saying, whites first, whites first, whites first and principles matter the most.</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Brown Arabs raping little White Girls not siding with them&#8230;</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
WEAK argument</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Fist you have to take your county back to be in control.</p>
<p>meaty<br />
3 days ago<br />
agreed</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago<br />
problem is you end up devoting your emotional and intellectual energy to someone elses problems</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
No, the likes of Dr Duke and Lucas Gage support Palestine because they understand history and are genuinely moral</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@jagdeepjano<br />
yeah? what did marks experience achieve so far? right&#8230; nothing.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Balfour agreement is enough reason to hate isreal , they killed American sailors and British soldiers</p>
<p>Man in toga &#8211; get it?<br />
3 days ago<br />
I like the Palestinians more than Australians. Palestinians never say shit like Nauurrr or make 50 different variations of the same cooking show.</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LiquidZ00<br />
^</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
American jets</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
catholicism is the seat of white power, the third reich refers to the third holy roman catholic empire</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
The average white guy you are talking about needs to be educated on the Palestine issue and global Zionism. Ignorant grug nationalists are useful idiots for the Jewish control establishment</p>
<p>@frog.eyes<br />
3 days ago<br />
its a tough debate, shame we&#8217;re seemingly stuck in the infighting stage forever</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
I like how the Chinese deal with Moslems.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Focus on what non-Whites are doing to innocent WHITES!</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
Exactly.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
support are the folk</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
it’s illegal to fight in isreal unlike Ukraine …….another point of contention</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
Richard Steigmann-Gall the former Director of the Jewish Studies Program published The Holy Reich through Cambridge University Press</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
How does spending some attention on the horrifying shit that comes out of the Levant, and being genuine about it, immediately destroy your first-priority of your own people? That makes no sense.</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
other peopels nationalism / nationalism result isn&#8217;t our responsibility</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
3 days ago<br />
very weak</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
3 days ago<br />
how can mark even want to talk to muzzies after what they did to all of these british girls</p>
<p>@Prussnblk<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hard to say you stand on principle and also don’t care about genocide</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
i hope not, because Mark is simply wrong on this issue.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
So, Joel, is your Nationalism not consentient?</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
kin first</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Aryan = Noble, and Mark has the noble outlook on this</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m so sick of Whites being exhorted to care about other races. They do nothing for us, and most of them hate us.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Then enemy of my enemy is my friend</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Is anyone siding with Mark here?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Real Politic = you have to deal with people you don’t like</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark seems to think that the weaker position and approach is the one doing the trick, it does the trick, it does the jewish trick of whites fading out.</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark has the human, compassionate, Aryan attitude</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@1690Sparky<br />
0/</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Race First</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel has its boot on our throat. Anything useful in destroying the enemy is good.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Yes! Take our OWN side</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
TEAM WHITE JOEL</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is giving off Farage vibes here.</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
We can sell weapons to both of them.</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
FIRST PRINCIPLES</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
i don&#8217;t see his argument as falling apart at all</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why should your White motivations for opposing isreael prevent genuine opposition to genocide by the same people you already oppose? how tf is that &#8220;faking&#8221;? and if it is wtf?</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
100%</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
neither</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
agree to disagree if you</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is a man of principle. Is this so hard to understand?</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
When have White nationalists ever been pushed into the arms of Tommy Robinson? It only works the other way.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
this is so stupid&#8230; Strawman arguments.</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
3 days ago<br />
what???</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Isreal are killing kids on tv</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel delenda est Israel must be destroyed &#8230;The Israelis are the Red Coats in this revolution.</p>
<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
3 days ago<br />
the problem is that these non-white antisemites are almost always antiwhite as well, and I would always bet those who claim they are not are liars</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
silver lining</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
in return, palestinians living in the west will post anti-white content at the drop of the hat, we have all seen it</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
it makes the Jews look bad to support Palestine</p>
<p>@Smidolf<br />
3 days ago<br />
Boers don&#8217;t like pedo anime crap.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Rand must answer for that</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
it got him into a huge breakup fight with Dingo over it</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AWIVR<br />
Yeah fug That i luv the Boer 0/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
it’s about networking irl : Rockwell talked others</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
holy shit</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes way lol</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Advocating for Palestine is the morally sound, nationalist position</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
no way he said that</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;I would rather have a Palestinian as a neighbor than a Boer&#8221; -randbot2020</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith is mad at Moike ? ? ? wtf</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
sounds like Mark is falling for the non with an outstretched hand while hiding the knife behind its back</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Look what happened after 3 children being killed the Muslims and none whites collectives against white people</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Brutusch<br />
yeah what is the point of this, mark is banned too lol</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@0KT0BER<br />
why was it called the third reich?</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
There are plenty pro-white people on social media &#8211; it&#8217;s only the ones who name jewish power that get kicked off.</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is not engaging with what Joel is saying</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@CosmicPepe<br />
0/</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
they deported Jews from some South American country for grooming forget which one</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jews like to bet on all the Horses in the race</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
hows it going Tel Aviv</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
(((antisemitic point of no return)))</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
LOL dumb boomer</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
supreme gentleman</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
The source of the &#8216;Holy Reich&#8217; nonsense:<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Steigmann-Gall</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
hahaha Joel is an Eliot Rodgers appreciator?! JK</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
You get kicked off social media for talking about jewish power</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
You are Obsolete. I bet you have listened to thousands of hours of c rap cadence and pretend it&#8217;s music.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
100%</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Oh, that&#8217;s worked so far, Joel</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
TEAM WHITE =no Mamzers</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
BAP ppl &amp; Luke Ford type NRx ppl are kosher antisemites</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Disagree. Uniting with other groups to defeat the Jews is sensible and what organized Jewry fears the most (the Protocols talk about this). Their power and grip is truly global. Myopic focus is not the solution</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
I always come back and realise Mark was right</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Israel delenda est.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
The vast majority of Whites who support Israel are doing it because their Bible and/or Churches tell them that&#8217;s how they get to heaven.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
LOL6</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
keep your eyes on the enemy exactly <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Mark</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the catholic pope created the third reich, there will be no fourth reich without the pope</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
well, this is just stupid, sry.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@GaelicNord<br />
very good example</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;we can&#8217;t talk w/ anyone until we have basically total power&#8221; &#8230;really?</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
lol</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Lucas Gage is a mixed-up cuck.</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
give them to carrot first, then the stick, understand?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Who cares if people support Palestine, I don’t care about it. it’s an example of international Jewish power to the rest of he world though.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
We have tried all this none white crap. 1488 say it all</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Exactly, non-Whites are an energy drain. We DON&#8217;T need anybody else.</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
GO OFF KING!</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
quit naming CCG</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BobMatthews<br />
sadly you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Eugene Terblanche work with black and they killed him&#8230;</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
who’s Joel taking about ?</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
they cannot conceive of honesty or honor</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
BLACK Marcus Garvey worked with the KKK to return Blacks. Have you lot read any Nationalist texts? Mark Collett</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
you seriously believe, that talks with non-whites will lead to non-whites agreeing for the deportation of their fellow non-whites?? thats just&#8230; any non-white will immediately think &#8220;ok, i can&#8217;t trust them, i will be definitely next, so i won&#8217;t help them.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Clyde<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is not larping &#8211; Joel knows the friend/enemy distinction &#8211; we are after our share of the pie from a position of power</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Shamrockshake<br />
those schlubs hate to pass on inheritances to their children</p>
<p>@IberianVaelico<br />
3 days ago<br />
You work with people who have the same interests as you do. Not with people who&#8217;s interests are in conflict with yours.</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel responded well</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s ridiculous to expect White altruism from non-Whites.</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
Absolutely.</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
exactly!!</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;then we&#8217;ll sit down from a position of strength&#8221;&#8230;we&#8217;ll sit down once we&#8217;ve won. How American.</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
not all, not all, but most</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
100%</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel&#8217;s lost me here&#8230;</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
you’ll need economic allies when you do take power</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
yes</p>
<p>WP Combat<br />
3 days ago<br />
I agree with Joel here.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is right. We don&#8217;t need to worry about jews and other nons who will lie about us regardless.</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Blood and Honour</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
we need boomer money</p>
<p>@IberianVaelico<br />
3 days ago<br />
The game was rigged from the start. We&#8217;re not gonna win by playing by the rules created BY our enemies to keep US down.</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
What&#8217;s the point of cosying up to non-Whites who are in our homelands?</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
So, if you engage with brown people, you can convince them to leave peacefully?</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Lamp-post&#8230;or lampshade? lol</p>
<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
3 days ago<br />
non-whites will never agree that they are a cancer. Pandering to them is pointless, especially rn</p>
<p>@fishandsoil<br />
3 days ago<br />
The People of Starfield must extend across the whole galaxy of nationalism</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Boneface type Hollywood acts</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
there&#8217;ll probably be places where exchange b/t White and nonwhite groups are relevant before anyone&#8217;s resiliently established too, but fine to say &#8220;as we&#8217;re ready / it makes sense&#8221;</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago<br />
I say we need around 30% of Whites on the same page ideologically to start reversing the current trajectory..</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;Politeness&#8221; is how we got here. Optics cuckery.</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
i think the point is if u engage with one you could end up convincing sending 100s back rather than sending 1 back or 1 family and that is the end of i, still in the same position</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
agreed Joel</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
this is all blah blah and grasping at straws, we whites need to assert dominance over our own countries and we don&#8217;t do that by bending the knee to the browns.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
BLACK Marcus Garvey worked with the KKK to return Blacks. Have you lot read any Nationalist texts?</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
<p>@Clyde<br />
3 days ago<br />
preach it Joel! White Power!</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
what did the TALK do? what came from it?</p>
<p>Ethno Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
well said Joel</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Focus on our people first. I agree.</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
We don&#8217;t negotiate with invaders</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
3 days ago<br />
Wholesome chungus nationalism is not gonna work mark</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@schintzellove<br />
we are comparing to NSDAP, they didn&#8217;t have to face that</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is solid</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark did this when he had the SSNP on for a discussion, and they discussed the need for the Syrian refugees in Europe to be repatriated.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
National Socialist Front did that</p>
<p>meaty<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@whitedrake<br />
yes they do</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
We should all wire money to Beijing, Moscow and Tehran<br />
, and ask them to neutralize ZOG for us lol</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
fundamentals first</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@whitedrake<br />
Exactly. Totally different situations.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
worked nicely didn&#8217;t it? this is retarded, sorry to say, all you do is play the little cuck who tries to appease the bull.</p>
<p>@Clyde<br />
3 days ago<br />
no, no, no &#8211; I’m nothing but polite and legal and Iface threats and harassment everyday &#8211; organized harassment &#8211; no co-operation with nons</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago<br />
Exactly</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
you dont worry about that until later</p>
<p>Drake<br />
3 days ago<br />
Germans didn&#8217;t have millions of non-whites living in their communities throughout Germany</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes Joel!</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
has anyone suggested letting non-Whites into organizations, rather than just working w/ them where it&#8217;s practical?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
SPOT ON, MARK</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Maybe we can convince the non-White nations to neutralize ZOG for us?&#8230;</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AWIVR<br />
0/</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
they only want to help for selfish reasons. usually they hate their own. many are not trustworthy</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
What about the NSDAP&#8217;s SS non-White divisions? Ask him about that</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
WPWW</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
You won&#8217;t get non-whites to help you vote your way out of this, nor will they help you to get rid of them.</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago<br />
yeah the post ww2 Spielberg narrative is so strong and prevalent its so diffucult for mid wits to shrug it off&#8230;</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
WHITE POWER</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
WHITE POWER</p>
<p>rex<br />
3 days ago<br />
hoteps</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
We don&#8217;t need non-Whites. Let them take care of themselves. Whites are too altruistic, and it&#8217;s a one-way street.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
sry guy, the only peaceful talk we will have is how you will play along when i deport you from my country, this can go down in two ways, i prefer the peaceful route.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
You also have to react to the fact that civilisation and nationhood per se are under attack across the board.</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
I can see both sides</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Colin Jordan?</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
3 days ago<br />
The NS Germans could respect non-Whites who were fighting against the Jew World Order in their own territories. But the non-Whites were not allowed to be citizens in Europe. That is the difference from today.</p>
<p>@Fatty<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
This is such a poor question</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
says you as a non-white?</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
the fourth reich can only be roman catholic as it refers to the fourth holy roman catholic empire</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
problem is duke thinks we should just demand our rights rather than taking them</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Being Civil isn’t hard , We have different populations of Arabs in USA vs UK . The rich Arabs go to America , the grooming stuff doesn’t happen here like in other places</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t get this &#8220;let&#8217;s talk to non-whites about our political issues.&#8221; what does it do&#8217;? like seriously&#8230; yeah ok, they might agree or disagree, now what?</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
it&#8217;s just shit stirring</p>
<p>@Esau</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
the most successful nations today are patriarchal ethnostates. you can&#8217;t ignore that</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark seems a bit softer in approach than Joel.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@siegkreuz<br />
NS is exclusively Roman Catholic?! WTF are you smoking, dude?</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re deliberately putting darkies in schools in remote areas in the hope they might mix with white girls</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is right!We need to unite white and stay white</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Spot on, Mark</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
therein lies the problem</p>
<p>Siegkreuz<br />
3 days ago<br />
national socialism is exclusively roman catholic, the third reich refers to the third holy roman catholic empire. the fourth reich can only be roman catholic</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
WP o/</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
white power o/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Woody o/</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is right. balkanize like the other groups or we are toast!</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;White power is the name of the game&#8221; &#8211; Joel Davis, 2025. LFG!</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hope Mark is taking note. Protests and leaflets are not enough. WOODLANDER&#8217;s position is my my position, now.</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist</p>
<p>meaty<br />
3 days ago<br />
i&#8217;m posting my bird back to Thailand.</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
white people should be picking up sticks and watching paint dry</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Somalis do not belong in England or New England</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
you say it&#8217;s incentive based, and yet removing the incentive can&#8217;t overlap to &#8220;alliance&#8221; on issues like opposing israel? do you see how you limit your potential result there?</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
BAGPIPES FOR THE WHITE MAN ;(</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
regionalism works</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Culture isn&#8217;t supposed to be inclusive</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need INTENTIONAL White communities like what Eric Aarvol is doing in the USA</p>
<p>Reclaim<br />
3 days ago<br />
no asian gfs</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
cringe</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Happy Saint Patrick’s day guys</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
That&#8217;s the end of his families ancestry</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
you stop paying them too, retardo</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
lmao</p>
<p>@glider<br />
3 days ago<br />
depressing visual</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
I&#8217;ve met some amazing people during my travels. they had no intentions of coming to the west. they were proud of their nations.</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
then stop paying them</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
We probably could deal with other non White countries better than Shomrim squad policing the world killing innocents</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
nope. they have been paid to invade our countries.</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
and not every practical alliance is entirely peaceful surrounding the goal</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
I have a bag-pipe of sorts&#8230;</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
there&#8217;s a difference?</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
highland games</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
they will. They fled their countries instead of fighting.</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
too tolerant, too kind, always capitulating</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
we can have GREAT relations with non white people IF they remain IN their own countries</p>
<p>@Clyde<br />
3 days ago<br />
not while they occupy our lands &#8211; I’ll support them in their lands</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
I am not opposed either to working with non-whites, i will work with them, when they want to leave my country!</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Even after victory, Whites will still have to live in the world, and deal with other nations.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need it so nonwhites can&#8217;t have children whenever they want</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
drew pavlou the Turk</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
We aren&#8217;t including nons in our movement, he&#8217;s saying that if they understand what we are doing then they are less likely to come into conflict with us.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol the Negroes can fight on the frontlines against ZOG</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
*concern</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Agreed, Mark</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel spoke with a non white guy half Lebanese</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
certainly my only concen</p>
<p>@VrilPilled<br />
3 days ago<br />
This micro nationalism wont stand a chance against america and china</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
100%</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
OUR homogeneous society is the only thing that matters</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Kanye made himself look ridiculous</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
all white..no non whites</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
white pro movement will only work i</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Only good thing about Kanye talking about NS is making the normie masses more interested in the subject and normalizing it.</p>
<p>JokerWaffen<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Dr Duke is great too</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Is is good NS boy. I&#8217;ve met and drunk with him</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
[revving noises]</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Still does</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
yeah</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Brutusch<br />
he benefited handsomely off the hollywood system.</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
oh here comes the race cucking</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f3-1f1ff.png" alt="🇳🇿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Heil</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
0/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@AWIVR</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
\o</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
Safe White &amp; Clean</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Police you didn&#8217;t hear that</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Kanyes idiocy does nothing to promote nationalism</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
PHYSICAL FIGHTERS</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/ hey brother</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Poland safe too!98% safe..Japan 98% White..</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Political Soldiers</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Love this guy</p>
<p>AZRIZZLER<br />
3 days ago<br />
#starfieldteam</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
they aren&#8217;t hurting enough</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
don&#8217;t they have polar bears?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Only thing I disagreed with Joel was kanye , agree to disagree</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Eugenics is the answer</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
Iceland is the safest country=No diversity</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago<br />
you see it so much here in the US as well with these suburban normies with these McMansion generic shitty houses..Just relegating to vapid consumerism and materialism..No racial conscience</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
jews who run public schools have already trained a couple generations to &#8220;use their words&#8221; instead of fighting physically</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
GET TRIBAL White man!Or D.I.E.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago<br />
^^</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Tom Blair and Joel are the best of Starfield Nationalism</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
i think joel is 1488 lol</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need to sterilize all non whites</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Democracy is a fundamentally dishonorable system that rewards dishonorable, lying scum politicians</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Its a question of LEARNING TO BECOME TRIBAL!!!</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
I 100% agree with Joel, we need a movement, that makes the people drunk, drunk from the will to live, drunk from the will to assert dominance&#8230;</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
14s for JOEL</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel hits the nail on the head</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites are too scared and too altruistic and nice to other races that wanna kill us!</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
Yup, Hate Speech laws in Canada were created by the (((Cohen Commission))).</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
#FreeSam</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
true it is all about White people</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
#FreeCharlie</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Language laws are Jewish</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
They own the system, we&#8217;re in an awful position, most are more interested in watching the gogglebox</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites are the problem</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
oh shit joel is pissed lol</p>
<p>AZRIZZLER<br />
3 days ago<br />
starfieldian lives matter</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
White race a bunch of pussies. Amen</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
No more brother wars</p>
<p>@AlternativePatriot<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
Drunkards and pot heads are also a problem</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
I continue to be very impressed with Joel</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
This will essentially turn into irregular warfare of sorts, the establishment will try to kill those who upset their order. It&#8217;s good to know that going in and be ready to face possible death for survival and glory.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
JOEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
the enemy are scared</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
AMEN!White race are pussies. Tough facts</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
conditioned and brainpoisoned to be pussies</p>
<p>@Jeffrey-D<br />
3 days ago<br />
old population</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
remember #BANTHEADL? neither does anyone else</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> would be proto-Starfield</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
NO WEAK CUNTS ALLOWED ;(</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@fishandsoil<br />
that&#8217;s debatable</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
agree with Joel on this too</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes as White ONLY care about Whites&#8230;and we need to demand WHITE UNITY</p>
<p>@fishandsoil<br />
3 days ago<br />
#Starfieldianlivesmatter</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Don&#8217;t be LOW T</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> flag has stars so we called it Starfield <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is totally right on this</p>
<p>Shamrockshake<br />
3 days ago<br />
but they take our first names and won&#8217;t stop coming into our lands. crazy</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
RISE</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
This</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
inside joke</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AWIVR<br />
the starfieldians are better when they slur</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago<br />
complacency and escapism</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Australia <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> = Starfield btw</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
done scare the slags</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need a standing army</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
.I dont think that guy has barely anymore than 3 viewers on odysee anymore. Not even certain if he is pro-White anymore&#8230;</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Women get hot and bothered by strength!!! if you project strength, the gardening tools will follow suit!</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
ghetto greg <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol, I like that mark was so taken back by that. I respect that bants</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Where dem White hoes at, shieet. Muh dick</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
marks correct on that</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
skims the slags</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
the wimin mark</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
None of us really have all the answers on how to reclaim White nations this side of WW2, so why not try everything and just don&#8217;t counter-signal other White nationalists?</p>
<p>Blankeon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Im with Justin Barret &amp; Joel Davis on this issue. Our problems can only be solved with radical politics such as National Socialism. Democracy creates weak people who cannot solve difficult problems like mass immigration.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
They have the tools to stop Nationalists getting anywhere near their system, therein lies the problem</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel calling out REACTIONARIES. Top man</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
at least he&#8217;s not slurring</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
I&#8217;ve never heard an Australian make a good argument</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
NO HOES ALLOWED ;(</p>
<p>Matt Hammond<br />
3 days ago<br />
Another Partridge moment</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
gangster Gregory innit m8</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
WN basically communicates in Ebonics</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Martinez got that from Bjerknes … the “ Hitler was jewish “ guy</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Maldric<br />
I&#8217;d agree..Noble to fight but when its just at the expense of inevitable demise it doesnt bode well&#8230;</p>
<p>Question EVERYTHING!<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
it&#8217;s very hard for me, Whites around here are disagreeable &#8216;class conscious</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Kent<br />
get</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
on the show</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Oh no, is Keith parroting Brandon Martinez&#8217;s takes that Hitler was anti-White?! hahaha WTF</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer<br />
3 days ago<br />
oh hey Mark</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
PA has great optics and people attacked Mark over “Book gate” ? This reminds me of the bulldogs who attack Mark</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Read Colin Jordan&#8217;s 1962 Trafalgar Square speech, tells us everything we need to know about the situation we are in</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
Possibly. Obviously I don&#8217;t know for sure. I find it suspicious they were allowed to register with the Zionist controlled electoral commission and they forbid discussion of the JQ (party policy)</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
community building offline is the way</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
3 days ago<br />
haha, Mark learned something today.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
lmao mark</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Garden hoes ?</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
I still say THIRD POSITION is a better label.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
the women</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Advocacy for people of European heritage includes by any means necessary</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@WhiteBracer</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol dammit bracer</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Starfield team o/</p>
<p>Question EVERYTHING!<br />
3 days ago<br />
*pricks, who love to attack others&#8230; and many cucked libtards &amp; cucked husbands</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
^^^</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
so keep up the ball paddling</p>
<p>@Kent</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
Ukraine is a lost cause, anyone saying otherwise is very badly mistaken</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Colin Liddell is also a giant Azov shill , odd isn’t it</p>
<p>@Kent</p>
<p>Question EVERYTHING!<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
buy XRP, lol</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
nothing much. just here to remind</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
that Ukraine is a jewish controlled patsy of Jewish controlled America AND THEY LOST</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Question_Everything_mCtH_<br />
100%</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
^</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Le Penn is part of the club</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Whites are heavily conscientious and oriented towards Moral Communities, therefore we need to make a MORAL case for White nationalism IMO&#8230;but we also need MONEY behind us.</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
he&#8217;ll yeah borther</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
aye up mate</p>
<p>@Kent</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago<br />
good to see all the boys</p>
<p>Question EVERYTHING!<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
Whisper campaign, influencing friends, &amp; family, &amp; also having 0 tolerance for people who are antiwhite would absolutely would positively reverberate</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Kent<br />
o/</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
o/ muppet gang gang</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
and if you would understand</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
o/</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Maldric<br />
o/</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
I&#8217;m surprised to hear this about Homeland, too. What&#8217;s going on there?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Maldric<br />
o/</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AWIVR<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
Wait, what? You think Homeland is funded by Shlomo?!</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AWIVR<br />
you should strike up a conversation w/ Greg. I feel like you could get him talking</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Maldric<br />
o/</p>
<p>AWIVR<br />
3 days ago<br />
we&#8217;re all counting on you</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
Bingo</p>
<p>Dead Internet Society<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
keep up the good fight king</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is 100% correct</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
the man on the street will do something eventually , people don’t like the Jewish invaders , peasant antisemitism or shabbos NRx clout chaser</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
Is a Republican boomer. He can&#8217;t be anything else. It&#8217;s what he is.</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Neutering yourself for muskscraps</p>
<p>Question EVERYTHING!<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
&amp; NPCs are default antiwhite, severity depends on their political affiliation</p>
<p>Mark Collett<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
You can still use Odysee at the moment mate!</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
The problem controls the Media and edjewcation system, therein lies the problem</p>
<p>Mark Collett<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
I don&#8217;t know, I don&#8217;t think so, I can accept superchats on Odysee or Entropy!</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
Debate him -and lose, like you did with Mark</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
he said that they will follow who ever in power dont twist his words</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
sounds like his argument is basically an order-of-operations one</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
Yes. Kind of contradictory</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
ethnocentrism is a part of conformity&#8230; the will to survive and to live and the chances are greater, if you align with people who look like you and thats a simple truth of nature.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Most folk are NPCs</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Odysee got nuked by NNR &amp; other ppl fighting flagging each other</p>
<p>Counter-Currents<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why is Joel appealing to &#8220;the average guy in the street&#8221; when he earlier said that the masses are not persuadable?</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
oh thanks</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Teamfield<br />
o/</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
No you have to use entropy<br />
https://entropystream.live/app/markcollett</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
3 days ago<br />
odysee arein the midst of changing payment processor</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Rogan guests like Theo Von &amp; Jake Shields are good for normies</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
yeah, just take a look at their girlfriends, wives and children, 80-90% are white and white.</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago<br />
wait is mark demonitazed on odysee?</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@countercurrents<br />
&#8220;many liberals&#8221; vs. &#8220;conservatives [implicitly all]&#8221; careful language, but while this is a popular idea, I&#8217;ve yet to see anyone try to establish it in the same sense LAC does Rogan&#8217;s guest&#8217;s composition</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
We can’t donate on Odyssey anymore?</p>
<p>@MarkCollett</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/ Mark o/ Joel</p>
<p>BobMatthews<br />
3 days ago<br />
without any intention for offense, Mark could greatly benefit from a value oriented microphone like a Rode NT mini usb&#8230;</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
that is just ridicolous</p>
<p>@Jeffrey-D<br />
3 days ago<br />
because communism won the war and participated to the creation of the new world order , the far left is accepted</p>
<p>Mark Collett<br />
3 days ago<br />
Guys, we only have three questions tonight over on Entropy! If anyone wants to ask a question, please do so, as I will be asking them soon!</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Bulldog nationalists in Ireland ? idk ?</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Most Whites &#8211; even leftist Whites &#8211; are demonstrably IMPLICITLY ethnocentric i.e., they &#8220;vote with their feet&#8221; e.g., living in gated White communities&#8230;.we need to get Whites to be EXPLICITLY ethnocentrism.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hitlers goal was to unify the left and right, because in reality, there is no difference between a communist german and a conservative german, a protestant or catholic german.</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Boris Johnson was called a Nazi <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
MUh Naertsee</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
right but it is reasonable to think tha they are like eighties western Nationalists</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith using the most AstroTurfed “banned man in America” Fuentes is a joke when he flew to UK to meet an Irishman ?</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
desensitization.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
Joel says you need to be racist to be successful but I don’t see how yelling racial slurs at people will bring you to victory</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
National Socialists recruited germans from the left and the right&#8230; there wasn&#8217;t a specific targeted group, thats the first time i hear that one.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Spot on Mark. The movement destroyed the power of the term nazi. Now isn&#8217;t the time to fret over it. It&#8217;s a strange thing.</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith just wants to be an E-celeb</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
Yelling racial slurs and waving the Japanese imperial flag and sometimes the Nazi flag doesn’t really appeal to anyone. maybe I’m mistaken and it will eventually work but I think not</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
3 days ago<br />
what the fug</p>
<p>Kent<br />
3 days ago<br />
we just need to get trump to tweet gamergate</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
I am ethnic german and i can say that with certainty and confidence, because ive read all the books, from Hitlers Mein Kampf, his second book, which is sus, to Alfred Rosenberg to all the spergs from the conservative revolutionary movement in the times of the weimar republic.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
Rosenberg&#8217;s &#8220;Myth of the 20th Century&#8221; is one of the deepest books I&#8217;ve ever read in my life. I will definitely need to re-read it many more time.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good question Mark</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
You have to begin the schooling and I think many of the German and Italian thinkers are necessary for this</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
clown show as compared to who? western nationalists? lmao</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Son.of.Mars<br />
always ask them:&#8221;Do you think Whites deserve a homeland&#8221;?when they say NO show them how that is antiwhite and wrong because all other races have their honelands already!</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
optically</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
The National Socialists actively recruited from communists, at Hitler&#8217;s insistence. Goebbels was a communist before he was a National Socialist.</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
yeah i get it but why shit on japanese nationalists</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes i ca imagine that</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Are you living in a european nation and are planning to procreate with a white woman?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
I think Keith is blaming NS for the poor performance of the National Party in Irish politics. He is blaming the &#8220;spergs&#8221; who moved the Overton Window to the right in the first place. It&#8217;s a real shame.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
It&#8217;s a hard read</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
Albanese is a worm</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
Conservatives in all western nations exist to prevent actual nationalism from happening</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
The Right is weak. A fkn failure by any objective measure.</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
so was joel though right&#8230;</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
what mark just described is exactly why NS will be rehabilitated</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
I am sorry, there is hardly any &#8220;German Particularism&#8221; in National Socialsim&#8230;</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
The Left are REVOLUTIONARIES; the Right are REACTIONARIES</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Hitlers supposed understanding of aryan hsitory is mainly a thing coming from Rosenberg, who studied aryan history and the influence and development of philosophy on the aryan soul throughout history.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Born in Egypt, bless his heart</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
*if</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
End the Fed is the superior movement because that is what will help whites the most</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
Japanese nationalists are a clown show. They do things in a performative racist way and haven’t made much ground. Can’t even protest against Kurds in the country</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
NS is easy to like and convert to of you don&#8217;t want your people to die off/subjugated</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Even Peter Hitchens knows Britain&#8217;s involvement in the war was a disaster.</p>
<p>Reclaim<br />
3 days ago<br />
the red bull putsch</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
National Socialism is a amalgamation of all the european thinkers and philosophers who based their ideas in reality.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
true</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
maybe Keith wants to be Irish Fuentes ?</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
nonsense, National Socialism wasn&#8217;t a specific german thing, if you take a look at all the influences all the german thinkers had&#8230; Henry Ford played a formative influence on National Socialism, the friggin race laws were based on the Jim Crow Laws.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Globalism stems from the Tanakh</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
(((Globalism)))</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I have heard about it but I haven&#8217;t read it</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
just spread prowhiteism you do it your way..as long as its spreading prowhiteism I dont care what you do..Ive made 100s of whites become prowhite just by talking in my community&#8230;it starts in your home..and your closest friends..when we are all prowhites its game over for the antiwhites</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
seethe dummy</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
If we don&#8217;t get some big wins under our collective belt, I predict ZOG will start locking us White waycists in mental asylums. Psychiatry is very jewish, stemming mostly from the American Psychiatric Association.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
The comment sections in those AI-translated Hitler speeches are very positive.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Rudolf Hess was NS personified.</p>
<p>Reclaim<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
The question of German particularism is an important one because it stems from Hitler&#8217;s own view of Aryan history and the place of Germany in it. It&#8217;s something that&#8217;s easily resolved in a good faith discussion.</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
3 days ago<br />
20 x hasbara budget</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
The label isn&#8217;t what matters what matters is ending the private central JEW bank forever</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
just spread prowhiteism Chris&#8230;and find the best technique for recruiting whites to become prowhite..then when one of us are in power we use that power to steer the ship in a prowhite way&#8230;this is how it works</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ReclaimYourNeighborhood<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nothing wrong with universalism to a degree. Funny how those who say nationalism for everyone don’t include Palestinians for some reason</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith is doing Civic antisemitism / Kosher anti Zionism which eventually will lead to CivNat / Civic Fascism. Why he chooses to go backwards ? who knows</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
too bad it was not a pan-European movement. It was a pan-Germanism movement. Nothing wrong with that, but it was murdered in its crib before it became pan-European.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
The book is called &#8220;Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition&#8221;. Chapter 8.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
The spiritual question is a central one. The current zeitgeist requires a measure of spiritual thinking, and dare I say &#8211; mysticism. Materialism and objectivism do nothing for the soul.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)<br />
We had our own version here, the likes of Henry Hamilton Beamish and Arnold Leese would have come down on the small hats 10x harder if they ever got in power.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
with the former Group you build the worldview, the ideas ect. the foundation of your group and the letter is the meat of the group. the whole Head and body concept of the folk.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I disagree with MacDonald that Whites are individualistic. Ukrainians in Japan &amp; Taiwan have their own ethnic advocacy group. French in Singapore seem pretty collectivist in their neighborhood.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
sounds interesting</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
Can&#8217;t ignore the Nazi accuastion and the holocaust if you are a nationalist in the West. Doesn&#8217;t mean you need the copy the political platform of the NSDAP exactly. You can have a new political ideology that works for whatever situation you are in.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Then you need to project strength and you do that by having a vanguard, a sort of drone squad of people who aren&#8217;t as steadfast in their worldview but are willing to do the fighting for the group.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
There was far more history to NS than just the putsch, Joel</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
IMO Dr. Kevin MacDonald&#8217;s latest book on Western psychology is a GREAT resource to strategizing how to win over Whites.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
the issue is still the same though, you try to go the hard way, by red pilling every normie on a individual basis&#8230; you will spend eternity until you get enough people to be on your side, which is not feasible. You need a handful intellectuals who are steadfast in their WV.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Turning against National Socialism is rather like denying that you&#8217;re racist &#8211; you&#8217;re losing the argument and accepting the premises of the enemy.</p>
<p>rex<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8221; white new deal &#8221; &#8221; four natural freedoms &#8221;</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
The swatztika is ETERNAL</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Lol yes. I can grow a thicker beard than most Chinamen.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Yagoda<br />
Dear Christian Brother we have that discussion another place</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Spot on Joel</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Drop &#8216;the nazis&#8217; Jew propaganda term</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
My point still stands. As long as you aren&#8217;t in White countries.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I live in Japan.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
I respect Chinese and Arabs&#8230;if they stay the hell in China and the ME&#8230;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
That must mean you can grow a beard!</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
I haven&#8217;t disagreed with Joel about anything yet. Can anyone prove him wrong?</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
yes! yes! yes!</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
I&#8217;m actually part Hui. This DNA test I got from China has me having some Iranian &amp; Central Asian dna. It doesn&#8217;t matter to me because I don&#8217;t think ethnicity is soley based on genetics. Although it is a factor you can&#8217;t ignore.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
The puritan, I&#8217;m-smarter-than-you element in the Movement has always been a problem. Tea and biscuits and long words won&#8217;t cut it.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Colin Jordan &#8211; A prime example of a NS</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
they don&#8217;t hate jewsus</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
some of us Canadians of Irish and Scottish heritage have not entirely forgotten where we came from</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Rockefellers wanted the mass immigration to punk us into world government. Kakala winning would have made it possible for sure. We dodged a bullet.</p>
<p>Brosey<br />
3 days ago<br />
re what joel is saying, the patrick bateman memes were funny for a time but i personally am tired of them</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
rooting for the underdog is rooting for nons pre 1945</p>
<p>@AlternativePatriot<br />
3 days ago<br />
Alcohol has also been a poison to the movement and there are also too many dude weed bros as well</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
jews use biological weapons aka blacks and browns to kill White countries</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
this is also the issue normies have, they repeat what their group says, without really believing it, which is where cognitive dissonance kicks in.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
prowhite means you put whites first..you fight antiwhites and fight for pro white policies..you upkeep prowhiteism in everything you do&#8230;when we all boycot coca cola it will work etc</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
but who let them in ?</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
lol the &#8220;Synagogue of Satan&#8221; verses in Revelations is not saying what based Christians think it says. Adam Green laid that interpretation to rest.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hispanics killed America</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
long live the underdog</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Agreed, Joel</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
wouldn&#8217;t you agree that there is a difference between what a person says and what a person beliefs? again, conformity being the issue, i wouldn&#8217;t put my trust in a person who just repeats, belief is a process of self realization.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
I would say browns</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
jews are nig nogs</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
the jews</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
both</p>
<p>rex<br />
3 days ago<br />
tradies</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
who hurts prowhiteness the most blacks or browns?</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;According to one former Brownshirt, 132 Nazis had been killed and 18 thousand injured by the end of 1932<br />
and a further 68 killed in January 1933, at the end of which Hitler was appointed Chancellor!.&#8221;</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@lotharcollatz<br />
exactly</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
And a broad land which lends itself to the pioneer mindset</p>
<p>collatz<br />
3 days ago<br />
There&#8217;s a difference b/t a ragtag group of well-motivated supporters&#8230;.and boneface</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
(some of chat, not the host or guest)</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
we dont need a spaceship..we just need to keep prowhiting..then the more prowhites we become evetually it will be too.many prowhites to ignore and the people will only allow prowhite leaders&#8230;thats how a prowhite will come to power..people selected him for being pro white/pro Germany only</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
what do you mean by making someone pro-white? make other people repeat what you are saying?</p>
<p>@LottaSense<br />
3 days ago<br />
gayyyyyy</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
stating facts isn&#8217;t infighting</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
Please no religious infighting</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
NSDAP started with the DAP. Gregor Strasser was there first. Hitlerites don&#8217;t like that fact</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jews are behind these thug looking characters, that people are led to believe are National Socialists</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
The SA, the working class are crucial to any nationalist movement. You can&#8217;t be middle class about things. Hitler defended those lads for exactly that reason. Snobbery is poison to nationalism.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
Im prowhite&#8230;you are prowhite..a prowhite person made you prowhite correct?so keep prowhiting..Ive made so many whites prowhite and keep doing so&#8230;we grow organically worldwide&#8230;eventually we are too many to be stopped</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
Half brown -like the NSDAP&#8217;s SS 13th division</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
NatSocs falsely believe that Hitler was spontaneous when in reality he was allowed to leave Rothschild central bank to create the WWII narrative.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I would be a citizen of the Reich, per the Nuremberg laws.</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark is sending for Blood Tribe</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
Yep, we&#8217;re in a terrible situation</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
degenerates</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
so you will shame them, while the bigger group, the one they belong to, are shaming you for being a racist ect&#8230;</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel, you&#8217;re a Christian mate&#8230;the Bible tells us God&#8217;s kingdom is gonna fix everything&#8230;we pray <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> for it in the Lords prayer mate &#8230;we pray for God&#8217;s kingdom to come not for man&#8217;s mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
I got made on the train reading a book about Strasser. Someone googled it, then started asking me why I was interested in nohtzees</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
So you are half brown?</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
We band of brothers, we happy few</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
I am Chinese.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I assume he is Arab based on his name lol</p>
<p>@AlternativePatriot<br />
3 days ago<br />
We do need to drop the red braces, boots and general neo nazi aesthetics imo and cultivate clean aesthetics with physically fit and clean cut people in out movement</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
you entertaining empty calories, it does nothing, it did nothing.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
I&#8217;m half English half Arab. Not that Arabs are a race as such.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
We will make it popular to be prowhite</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Anyone uncomfortable with Joel&#8217;s position should think themselves lucky that Strasserite</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
is not speaking :grinning:</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
we will keep exposing antiwhiteism until all Whites eho don&#8217;t join the fight will be called self hating whites&#8230;we make it shame to not be pro white</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Perhaps you didn&#8217;t see my question the first time. What race are you?</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
like i pointed out, Conformity is our biggest issue that we have to deal with&#8230; hitler wrote about it himself, he red pilled his normie friends just for them to come back with the old programming and arguments.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Where would Jonathan Bowden be on this issue, I wonder?</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
the mass doesn&#8217;t care about facts.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Romantic is a key word. You need romanticism and the subjective. The crisis of modernity is rooted in materialism, and materialism has to be fought head on.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
then what? we tried that for how long? it doesn&#8217;t work like that.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
They wouldn&#8217;t allow a genuine party anywhere near Their system</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
14s for Joel&#8217;s position; 13 for Woods&#8217;</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
What race are you?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Pandering to the lowest common denominator desires of voters is contrary to the fundamental NS views<br />
of leadership &#8211; which are based on natural law and the proof of history.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
I also agree with Joel</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel incredible based as always</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
I 100% agree with Joel, thats the only way how its done.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
It took a lot of brain power to invent rubber dildos that&#8217;s Chosen Power</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Along with you, I&#8217;m now banned from Twitter. Said nothing bad. Just started calling out Farage</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
The Holocaust is used to discredit nationalism. If you are going to be fighting for repatriation &amp; laws protecting a demographic majority. You will start running up against the Holocaust blood libel.</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
real af</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
We are going to be called Nazis and racists anyway</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need a central bank that is run by congress with term limits</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
we get that by exposing and pointing out antwhiteism and with the persecution against our people in focus</p>
<p>@LeighStewy<br />
3 days ago<br />
Does the community approach NSN in the street? Or are they afraid?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Of course. They&#8217;re moving agianst ethnonationalism across the board. Panic.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
For sure. The question is how much they are lying by&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
They were INVITED to rebuild Britain, apparently &#8211; lol</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
Yeah, they obviously give out BS figures so people think things aren&#8217;t as bad as they are</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Jeew tycoons expect the Dildo market to reach 62 billion$ per anum by 2030.</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
London is definitely less than 30% White British</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
The crisis of modernity has its basis in the foundational lie of WWII. You can&#8217;t liberate people&#8217;s minds until you smash the WWII myth entirely.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
agreed</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
2035 not 2066</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago<br />
britain started when david lammys parents came to Britain, apparently</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
There&#8217;s next to no Brits left in areas like Tottenham</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nationalists need to think about what can be salvaged from the ashes. There&#8217;s no saving the situation with votes.</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Insane how it got this far.</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
Yup. Too many Whites think the jews are primarily anti-Christian&#8230;NO, they are anti-White. In fact, jews hate White heathenry more than White Christians, but I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Use a Schmidt photo instead</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;ll be sooner than that. The rate of settlement of migrants is positively frantic.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ssanwaerter<br />
have a good day at work o/</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
yeah 0/</p>
<p>@ssanwaerter<br />
3 days ago<br />
Ahh i gotta go to work soon but i&#8217;ll watch the replay later. Great stream so far lads.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Use the Celtic Cross. Nat symbol since day 1</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Yagoda<br />
yeah they like to show them off taking pictures, so they buy fancy ones to flex</p>
<p>@Esau<br />
3 days ago<br />
Greetings, folks! o/</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
National Socialism is a set of natural laws which are given a name. It&#8217;s not an invention of Hitler per se, it is the codification of a set of natural laws and a programme for their renewed implementation.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MatthewParrott<br />
Again I ask, why the opposite opinion to the Trad Workers you were heavily involved in? You had some epiphany?</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Yagoda<br />
thats because anything can be a dildo if you&#8217;re brave enough</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MatthewParrott<br />
Ireland has a rich nationalist history and it is very recent. Not to mention it wasn&#8217;t liberal</p>
<p>@popovacianen<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MatthewParrott<br />
cuck box broke nobody cares what you have to say lol</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Trump lacks the Balls to ban Dildos, much less to ban Pornography.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
think about Martin Luther, when the church threatened to ban him and he said &#8220;Ich stehe hier. Ich kann nicht anders.&#8221; or think about socrates who said that he can&#8217;t do anything else but tell the truth, even when faced and threatened with death.</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
Each time you get up, you need to reflect on how you got knocked down last time and change up your fight.</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@CosmicPepe<br />
I use the word assimilation differently. Like how the Ainu were assimilated. They were made to intermarry Japanese, language was banned, etc. Essentially an ethnocide.</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why would an Irish Nationalist adopt a German history hobby project? It makes no sense. His tradition predates German NS by centuries, and has been far more successful, by any measure.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
There are 2 types of people, people who are unstable and people who stick to the simple truth no matter what. I see this here in germany literally every friggin day, politician who were thought to be principled break and bend&#8230; and it is simply because of the other type of person is a rarity.</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s not just about the baggage of decades of brainwashing and slander. Even NSDAP in its best possible light was not for export, and was ethnically and historically contingent.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MatthewParrott<br />
So you now call out Warren and Striker?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
There were a lot of Strasserists knocking about the BNP, to be fair.</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Apparently most Perverts prefer to purchase dildos imported from Asia.</p>
<p>@oneyedfatman<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
deport nons first</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s really not that difficult, one of the first things you would do is crack down on Secret Societies</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hitler said it in his speech &#8220;We shall not lie, we shall not con.&#8221;</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Uncle DID NOT invent NS</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
TradWorker was for Faith, Family, and Folk. It was smeared as a neonazi hitler hobby project.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
yeah, try it again. The more you do tests and poke around the sooner you&#8217;ll get it dialed in</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
Leonidas died in thermopylae, did that mean the greeks should&#8217;ve given up? Fall down six times, stand up seven.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith and co cannot accept the terrible truth &#8211; there is no parliamentary or democratic answer to the crisis of modernity and the Jewish Problem. NS is needed because it is fundamentally revolutionary, and that is why it is needed. You cannot use the system to defeat itself. The system must go.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well, Keith got corrupted by popularity and the ability to make money with the movement and the moment you try to make money with the movement, the entire revolutionary spirit is gone.</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago<br />
You have to assimilate if you come to a new country. If you can&#8217;t assimilate, don&#8217;t come.</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hey, Grok. Did the NSDAP defeat jewish globalism?</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
Every State that is multiethnic will have minority rights for political stability. It has nothing to do with liberalism. Its that or forced assimiliiation.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
I suspect Keith is bitter because of the poor showing of the National Party in the Irish elections. Perhaps he&#8217;s blaming NS for turning off the masses. He&#8217;d be wrong, but perhaps that&#8217;s what&#8217;s underlying his bitterness.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
LOL</p>
<p>The Pork Report<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Son.of.Mars<br />
Exactly, I think that liberalism is a big wrong turn the West took a while ago, and now we need to right it.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
yes, who would die for King Charles ?</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t want my country to turn into pajeetistan 2.0 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
3 days ago<br />
Answer: only with a better idea</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
People like Keith try to appease the masses, while the masses look for a strong leader&#8230; basically, Keith is soy, while the masses want bloody meat!</p>
<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Appreciate being in chat with fellow nationists</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
A lot of nationalists would do well to look at Rosenberg. NS is not just a chauvinistic reward for being Aryan &#8211; it&#8217;s a programme of restoration of something that was lost a long time ago. It&#8217;s boldness and depth are often ignored.</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
3 days ago<br />
a better question: Can National Socialism be killed ?</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
we took a wrong turn, and ended up somewhere we don&#8217;t want to be, we have to look back where we went wrong.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)<br />
&#8220;For King And Country&#8221; &#8211; Imagine coming out with that now.</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
So called infighting is merely sparring and good training.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
You&#8217;re right to call out reactionaries. Anyone who is not revolutionary at this point is living in the 1800s</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
true</p>
<p>@Sweet_Nerevar<br />
3 days ago<br />
yeah Cali 480p, don&#8217;t ask me how</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
all true mate <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
i might change the bitrate and try after&#8230;</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
There is a simple answer to this&#8230; reality hasn&#8217;t changed since then&#8230; the enemy is the same, the issues are the same, ect.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
In a Europe where Christianity has collapsed, NS is needed also because it has a spiritual dimension, which people desperately need.</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
Callahan may I call in??</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Democracy is the jew tool no matter what name the party goes under &#8211; end of story</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MatthewParrott<br />
Is not this, your position, antithetical to the Trad Workers?</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@daniel<br />
No, they spoke with Justice Actions usually.</p>
<p>@AdarHitrock<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
you gonna do a test stream today?</p>
<p>Son of Mars<br />
3 days ago<br />
NS is extremely attractive if communicated properly</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
Warren, Greg Conte etc., have been steadfast on this.</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel just explained that the S in NS is some intellectualized bullshit that&#8217;s not Socialist or even &#8220;Social&#8221; in the common sense. And now he&#8217;s dumping schmittian and hegelian dialectical word salad. His brain&#8217;s totally fried on germanophile bullshit.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
NS is still relevant: Third Posirionism. The TRad Workers, Striker, Warren, get that much</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
To attack &#8211; at this moment &#8211; a nationalist movement that puts socialism front and centre is very suspicious indeed. Can reactionary nationalists really be called nationalists at all?</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
pat was being facetious</p>
<p>@haraldr1984<br />
3 days ago<br />
Let Joel cook man</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Truth You know any decent reading material on the Klan?</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@vettekid407<br />
Pat Bateman told me Lil Sheckel ia alive and well&#8230;</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
I mean once..we only need divide our social space once!Prowhite vs Antiwhite. This is how we finally can unite instead of dumb infighting</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
gtsy</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BeerHallPooch<br />
\o</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
Unlike Irish and Italian mafias who fraternized with Jeews, the KKlan did noble things for White people.</p>
<p>Beer Hall Pooch<br />
3 days ago<br />
About time this issue was addressed. Look where cowering, playing by the System&#8217;s rules has got us</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@WHITESUNITEWORLDWIDE<br />
I was just listening to some old Gas Station streams&#8230; brought back fond memories <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f643.png" alt="🙃" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
0/</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
Which makes it different. The Indigenous Taiwanese have special privileges like they can own firearms for hunting for example but they don&#8217;t have more rights than the Han majority.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
National Socialism should also be understood as a programme of improvement and restoration which would logically render itself unnecessary, which is what Hitler foresaw for the NSDAP.</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
Starmer told Trump that UK has free speech</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@vettekid407<br />
Iheard hes still alive&#8230;</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Only divide our social space twice: Prowhites vs. Antiwhites. You prowhite you are on TEAM WHITE</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
R.I.P Lil Shekel <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62d.png" alt="😭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
The minorities there have separate autonomous republics. China has a similiar thing. Enhe is a autonomous region for the Russians for example.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Race 1st</p>
<p>Callaghan<br />
3 days ago<br />
TEAM WHITE UNITE</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
but in the west the minorities have more rights than the majority</p>
<p>@01123581379<br />
3 days ago<br />
&#8220;Democracy means run by Jews&#8221; &#8211; Ezra Pound</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
I believe the Russian constitution recognises the Russian state as the ethnic expression of the Russian people, minority rights notwithstanding.</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
true</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
That being said. Multiethnic States always have a dominant ethnic group. Tajiks, Russians and other minorities still have rights and even privileges but the Han is the dominant ethnic group</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
I find people try to complicate our situation to confuse people, it&#8217;s all pretty simple stuff</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need a White ADL to protect our people from antiwhiteism..just like jews do for antisemitism</p>
<p>Matt Parrott<br />
3 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s a ball and cup game where Joel pretends that Neonazism is just &#8220;nationalism purified.&#8221; It is not, and the historically and ethnically contingent elements of the NSDAP are inextricably tangled up in NS and its contemporary Neonazi tribute band.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Nazi&#8230;&#8230;We don&#8217;t use that term</p>
<p>@Glen19<br />
3 days ago<br />
The Nation State is a European idea. Most States in the world aren&#8217;t nation States. Russia is a multinational State. China is a State of the 56 ethnicities that are recognized in the constitution. Iran is not a nation state and is multiethnic.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)<br />
With the mass immigration now going on Racial-Fascism/NS is the only way</p>
<p>@nationless8nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
as boomer. My friends all were into materialism and comforts of money. Nobody was interested back then in comfortable quality of life. Meaning and truth was not as inportant as a strong economy. If a man does not care about meaning of life. Its it mate. Community building is best way.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Breaking the lies about National Socialism is crucial to reverse the intellectual damage done to the West in the post WWII period.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
we need White Unity worldwide period&#8230;or else we will be crushed even more</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Yagoda<br />
agreed</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
If I was an employer I would be embarrassed to pay a brother less than a living wage. Many can&#8217;t afford a dependable vehicle and housing simultaneously.</p>
<p>Vettekid1488<br />
3 days ago<br />
Greg admitted he&#8217;s a liberal</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
NSN is epic</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Pushing NS also frees up space in the wake of it for other groups which are less hardline</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Greg Johnson is a republican. His ideology is post-war boomerism with a bit of racial awareness</p>
<p>Louis Cachet<br />
3 days ago<br />
joel please show us your tattoos</p>
<p>@Spozzfreund<br />
3 days ago<br />
That is not the circle Keith surrounds himself with&#8230;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
NS is a threat also because it is fundamentally revolutionary, and it questions the fundaments of modern spirituality and society at the root. That is why it&#8217;s dangerous.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
I need that pro white turban</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
thats a pro white turban..when an antiwhite touch that turban the amtiwhite turn into dust</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
100%</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Most Brits are so thick they don&#8217;t even know what each ideology stands for, someone tried telling me Hitler was against Socialists not Leftists</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Conservatism is deeply materialist, and it feels threatened by the non-materialism of NS.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
His timing is very odd, especially given the progress that has been made in recent years when it comes to revising the lies about WWII</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
lol, true</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel looks like he&#8217;s wearing a turban</p>
<p>@BritishGammon<br />
3 days ago<br />
Churchill: the best Prime Minister Shekels could buy</p>
<p>@DragonFox<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>RacismIsNatural<br />
3 days ago<br />
In the long term this will come back to bite Keith</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Ahoy there Chief</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chief_Moody<br />
evening Chief</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
3 days ago<br />
Evening troops</p>
<p>@VikingBro<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel, Tom, Blair and Hersant etc, Our Guys, the Aryan Thunder from Down Under<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
When your oppressors are chronic liars I wouldn&#8217;t sweat any missinformation. I never say anything bad about the Axis Powers.</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel is based and so is Tom, Jacob, Blair and all the NSN lads</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@GustavusVasa<br />
lol</p>
<p>Gustavus Vasa<br />
3 days ago<br />
We all agree with Joel so no worries Mark</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
I hope not but it seems he is going down a wrong path</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel&#8217;s a great guy.</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
People have been saying Keith has been off-key for a while now, I don&#8217;t want to start any drama but I ignored it up until this.</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel&#8217;s a hero!Fighting antiwhiteism and not scared of showing his face while doing it!BIG RESPECT!</p>
<p>@LeighStewy<br />
3 days ago<br />
Share this show on Twitter both Joel and Mark are banned!</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Exactly Ron, he&#8217;s a weirdo, he also simps for miscegenating prostitutes</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith Woodstein</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
3 days ago<br />
Did Woods got compromised?</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Why would you go down the road of trying to debunk Europa &#8211; very suspicious</p>
<p>RacismIsNatural<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith just wants to be popular he wants to be liked by guys like Elon</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
youtube</p>
<p>@charlie<br />
3 days ago<br />
episode 8 us accurate</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
I remember when Keith came on this week on the alt right with less than 1000 followers on toutube</p>
<p>Jagdeep Jano<br />
3 days ago<br />
Keith Woods debunking of Europa is retarded . He can&#8217;t find something on google so he says it isn&#8217;t true</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Credibility is everything</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
A lot of it is wrong</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Guy who made Europa should have got his facts right though</p>
<p>LiquidZ00\\\FYMM\\\<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>TribalismOnlyForThem<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel Davis is a hero for White Western Civilization!Thanks for fighting antiwhiteism Joel!!!</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Indeed so</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
Yeah, Odysee always does that. Wish they&#8217;d fix bugs but they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>@LeighStewy<br />
3 days ago<br />
Mark and Joel o/</p>
<p>WP Combat<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Damn, I wondered why it hadn&#8217;t started&#8230;.I had to press play!</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
indeed I think this be good</p>
<p>Reclaim<br />
3 days ago<br />
beanie waffen</p>
<p>The Resident Baker<br />
3 days ago<br />
Evening everyone</p>
<p>@dnhotd<br />
3 days ago<br />
startooo</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
log time brother</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
The timing of these attacks on NS is very suspicious. Just at the moment when WWII revisionism is having an impact.</p>
<p>@VikingBro<br />
3 days ago<br />
\o<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/26a1.png" alt="⚡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
The ProDildo Trump grabs the masses by the crotch.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Also, if you want to reach the men, you have to reach the women first&#8230; it is always the women who motivates the men to do something.</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
If Joel ever becomes dictator of Australia then I&#8217;m moving down under</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago<br />
Anyone living in London here?</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
3 days ago<br />
Evening men</p>
<p>@UKPhoenix<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@UKPhoenix<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hail!</p>
<p>DerCherusker<br />
3 days ago<br />
Hail!</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
Good evening.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
You have to over dramatize, give them a emotional story.</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago<br />
share the link</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
o7</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheThinRedLine<br />
0/</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
3 days ago<br />
This better be based and redpilled! I&#8217;m skipping Pete Q for this! haha.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
\o</p>
<p>@BlackwaterPark<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Hey! Long time no see.</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago<br />
I really like Keith, but I&#8217;m on team Joel for this one.</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
oy vey</p>
<p>@Þiudareiks<br />
3 days ago<br />
good evening</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago(edited)</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
I&#8217;m on the outskirts, M25 area</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
3 days ago<br />
Greetings goyim</p>
<p>@SerenaJB<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Crusader1483<br />
I&#8217;d love to see that.</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
3 days ago<br />
Has it started yet? says starting soon for me</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
Just asking because I am</p>
<p>BasedMan83<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel and Keith should do a debate</p>
<p>@UKPhoenix<br />
3 days ago<br />
Joel to reign as king of the united anglosphere by 2033</p>
<p>ThinRedLine<br />
3 days ago<br />
Exiting, let&#8217;s goo</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Mitch<br />
Why?</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
3 days ago<br />
If any White nation gets a NS government I&#8217;ll move there.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
In my opinion we can&#8217;t just hit the masses with pure facts&#8230; we have to repackage it in emotional moving container&#8230; thats what hitler meant by the mass has a female quality to it, you only will move the masses if you grab them with emotions, you have to emotionally move them.</p>
<p>Teutonic Truth<br />
3 days ago<br />
NeoBolshevik Stalkers want to rape and murder people that don&#8217;t want to be near them.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
it is like chocolate, you can wrap it in any package you want, give it any shape you want, it will always stay chocolate at its core, thats what we have to do with national socialism, we have to repackage it.</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Race is the basis of all true politics &#8211; our degenerate system is upside down and is attempting to bring about the mongrelisation of the British people</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well you would have to elaborate what you mean by ns, because National Socialism is not just aesthetics, it is also aesthetics, but its not just the swastika, it is the thing that is underneath the swastika, the deeper meaning or truth that is ns.</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
We need to spam TikTok with as many NS videos as we can</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
Well, thats the thing, we can&#8217;t change the problem, we have to deal with it, it is like having a crippled leg, you can&#8217;t change it, you have to work with it.</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
that is also why hitler spent years of his life studying Communism and all of their tactics, in order to understand how they manipulate the masses and which tricks and oppositional methods he had to break through. We have to do the same, the enemy hasn&#8217;t changed , only the methods have.</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
that sounds like quite a big problem to change</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
Well, in my opinion, our biggest enemy is Conformity&#8230; Schopenhauer talks about it&#8230; the will to live and survive is so strong that it forces the masses into conformity, even if it means they are wrong&#8230; Hitler briefly talks about it too in his book, saying the mass has a female quality to it.</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
honestly think we have to self segregate , from liberal whites ,they are dangerous</p>
<p>@WhiteZealot<br />
3 days ago<br />
Socialism must be paired with duties. All men must do at least 2 years in the military. If you&#8217;ve taken more from the state than you&#8217;ve given to it, you don&#8217;t get to vote or serve on a jury or hold office.</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
tbh it could be our best hope of revival , god knows we need a general awakening like yesterday .</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
3 days ago<br />
Anything has got to be better than this Judeo-Masonic Dictatorship in disguise, that goes by the name of Democracy</p>
<p>@Chris<br />
3 days ago<br />
National Socialism is based in reality and truth, it is not just some weird esoteric ideology that we try to force on to reality, to say &#8220;we can&#8217;t resurrect National Socialism&#8221; is like saying &#8220;let&#8217;s bury the truth and deny reality, because its not good optics to say race is real.&#8221;</p>
<p>@DragonFox<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
I&#8217;m two subs away from 1k, if you have time for a psychedelic music break:<br />
Subliminal<br />
Subliminal</p>
<p>@DragonFox: Subliminal<br />
More</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 days ago<br />
I say yes</p>
<p>@Daniel<br />
3 days ago<br />
Heil Joel</p>
<p>ZoMoeVanMensenDieDeHeletijdHalveWaarhedenVerspreiden<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@Johnny<br />
Well, we should do that since Europe has more commies than Germany back then</p>
<p>@Johnny<br />
3 days ago<br />
the whole argument is so stupid. NO ONE is saying we should walk around in brown shirts doing Roman salutes. But if you cant see what Germany was up against and fought for and how that is still important today.</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago</p>
<p>@TheGreatWillDo</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago<br />
Genetics</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago<br />
and a breeding programme</p>
<p>@eddiesdreaming<br />
3 days ago<br />
the main JD and the answer is of course it can , nothing else came close to what we need</p>
<p>@Ral9010NatSoc<br />
3 days ago<br />
We have the cure. Sieg Heil \o</p>
<p>@Ral9010NatSoc<br />
3 days ago<br />
Commies, jews, cuckservatives, democrats, liberals, trannies, pedos and all the other hedonistic degenerates fear<br />
National Socialism because they know it would be game over in a NS state. Hence why NS is the most demonized ideology. Our modern world is sick and the symptoms are everywhere.</p>
<p>@EndJewishPrivilege<br />
4 days ago<br />
Reclaim Europa (and European-Founded nations: USA, Canada, Australia and NZ)</p>
<p>@TheGreatWillDo<br />
4 days ago<br />
We need a billionaire to buy us a nazi island we can all live on together&#8230;</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Ep 20 with Kathleen Dudley</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Sat, Nov 16, 2024</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this weekly podcast episode The Flipside with Monika on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer talks with Kathleen Dudley.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The host Monica Schaeffer introduces her guest Kathleen Dudley, a Canadian-born American citizen living in New Mexico (0:00-2:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Kathleen is described as &#8220;a poet, a singer, a healer, musician&#8230; a writer&#8221; with many talents (30:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss the misuse of the term &#8220;fascist&#8221; as a weaponized label (3:00-5:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Kathleen explains fascism means &#8220;nationalizing&#8221; and &#8220;control of a nation by its nationals&#8221; (7:00-8:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Adrian Arcand, a Canadian fascist politician, is discussed as explaining fascism clearly (9:00-11:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Fascism is described as affirming tradition, high culture, God, family, and free enterprise (12:00-14:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Communism is portrayed as the opposite of fascism, denying God, freedom, and private property (14:00-15:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;Fascism is basically nationalism&#8221; and is demonized by those opposed to ethnic loyalty (16:00-17:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Adrian Arcand spent 6 years in a Canadian concentration camp during WWII (20:00-21:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Ezra Pound is mentioned as an American poet who supported fascism in Italy (23:00-24:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Kathleen suggests embracing the term &#8220;fascist&#8221; positively: &#8220;Thank you, I&#8217;m a fascist&#8221; (32:00-33:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss how weaponized language is used to manipulate people&#8217;s emotions (34:00-36:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Kathleen has been deeply reading Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s works, especially &#8220;The Gulag Archipelago&#8221; (40:00-45:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s experiences in Soviet gulags and his method of memorizing his writings are described (45:00-47:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich&#8221; is mentioned as Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s first published work (48:00-49:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The publication of &#8220;The Gulag Archipelago&#8221; led to Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s exile from the Soviet Union (50:00-51:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s Harvard speech warning of &#8220;communist aggression and the weakening of the moral fiber of the West&#8221; is recommended (52:00-53:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Kathleen received Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s book &#8220;200 Years Together&#8221; about &#8220;the Jewish problem in Russia&#8221; (55:00-56:00)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">A caller mentions a 1944 letter about distracting public attention from &#8220;the doings of The Red Army&#8221; (57:00-58:00)</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="https://gab.com/MonikaSchaefer">Monika&#8217;s book: https://barnesreview.org/product/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust/</a></span></h3>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All right, greetings. Hello everyone. Good day. Good afternoon wherever you are. Today is November 16th, 2024. You are listening to the Republic Broadcasting Network at RepublicBroadcasting.org. This is episode 20 of The Flipside with Monika. I am your host, Monika Schaefer.</p>
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<p>And today I am absolutely delighted to have a guest who is a very good friend of mine, Kathleen Dudley. She was born and raised not too far from where I grew up near Edmonton, Alberta, in a small town just north of there, but now is residing in the United States, in New Mexico, in fact, and has been, I think you became an American citizen quite a few years ago.</p>
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<p>Before I bring Kathleen on, I’ll just remind the listener that this is listener supported. So if you possibly can support the Republic Broadcasting Network, go to the website@republicbroadcasting.org and you will find the donate button there. And there are different ways of donating, either directly or by supporting the sponsors.</p>
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<p>And I always encourage people also to share these shows, tell other people about the Republic Broadcasting Network. There are many good shows on this network and you’re not going to hear this kind of stuff on the mainstream media or what some people call the “<em>Mockingbird Media</em>”. Okay.</p>
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<p>And I will also tell people about the chat room. It’s at the flipside w.monica.chatango.com and you can share things there. And I share things there from time to time. And yeah. So I wanted to tell you about that.</p>
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<p>Okay. So Kathleen, are you there? Can you hear me?</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> I can. And thank you very much, Monika. I’ve been looking forward to this and what a surprise and a privilege and a joy.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Thank you. Well, I’ve been looking forward to this for quite some time. This has been sometime in the making, I think we could see. I’ll just tell the listener a little bit about how we first met. You interviewed me. You were producing some content. You had a YouTube channel and I think you still do, although probably a lot of the videos that were a little bit more in the forbidden territory. You have, I think, an Odysee channel or maybe you can tell us about that in a moment. But where you have most of your content. And you were interviewing me. That’s how we first met.</p>
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<p>And then you ended up in your own big battle. It had nothing to do with World War II history, like my big court epic, you know, battles. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> But I found it quite amusing, to tell you the truth! It was rather amusing. That doesn’t matter what somebody’s trials and tribulations are about somehow there seems to always be a jew in the mix that brings in the Holocaust into it! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p>And the background to that is that I attended your trial, but it was virtual trial. Everybody was on Zoom and there were a bunch of people visible on the screen. And at some point, one of these people on the other side of things was pointing out to the judge:</p>
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<p>And I can’t remember exactly how they put it, but it was really quite comical, if you ask me, that somehow they managed to bring the Holocaust into it because they were pointing at me, my presence there and that I am, you know, quote, unquote, “<em>a Holocaust denier</em>”.</p>
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<p>So this was supposed to smear you by association, which., &#8230; Well, there you go. Even though your trial had nothing to do with the Holocaust or World War II history, it was about other things.</p>
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<p>But that’s not what we’re here to talk about today. Unless you wanted to share, you know, any background about that, Kathleen, because I know that in your process of going through the court system, you learned a lot! Do you want to talk touch on that at all?</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, not unless it comes in indirectly in the rest of what we’re talking about. I think I’d rather stick to our plan, thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, well, that’s the thing, our plan. Actually, Kathleen had approached me a few weeks ago and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’m really looking forward to when you have a guest on that’s going to explain somebody who’s really an expert on fascism. Who can tell us what is fascism, what is that?”</span></h3>
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<p>And here we are today and it’s you and me talking about this subject of fascism because we, we’ve talked about this a little bit and you know, this term “<em>fascist</em>” is a term that is thrown around, bandied about willy nilly, constantly, all the time. And I would guess that 99% of the people who use that term just willy nilly to basically, if somebody’s bad:</p>
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<p>Or if some government or politician:</p>
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<p>You know. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> And I don’t think they have a clue what is fascism. So we both kind of dug into that a little bit, although I think you did more than I did.</p>
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<p>So that’s what we want to unravel today a little bit. What is that? I mean, is fascism, does that deserve to be used as such a weaponized label that just means something really bad and what do people actually mean by it when they call somebody a fascist? I really think they have no clue. What do you think, Kathleen?</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, I tend to agree with you. I think words are weaponized, as we know, and they’re the grimoire, the book of magic spells and incantations. And we’ve seen that you use the word “<em>Trump</em>”, and all of a sudden someone goes ballistic, or you use the word “<em>Nazi</em>” and someone goes ballistic.</p>
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<p>But more than that, a picture, an image is created in their mind, and it evokes emotions and there’s no thought. It bypasses the reason. It bypasses the brain. It bypasses the capacity to be logical.</p>
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<p>And that’s how words have been used. And they’ve been used that way for hundreds and hundreds of years. And fascism is one of those.</p>
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<p>And so when I first talked with you about this, Monika, I said there’s two words, Nazi and fascist. And I said:</p>
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<p>And fascism has been on my radar. And between the two of us, I now have a sense that I understand “<em>fascism</em>”. And I’d like for other people to understand it so that they don’t get caught into that incantation, that spell, that grimoire of the word. Because how we use language expresses our clarity and our understanding of life. And if we aren’t clear with the use of our language, then we’re not clear in the direction in which we walk in life.</p>
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<p>So to me, it’s critical. What’s your thought on that?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Absolutely! Before I got a little bit of a deeper understanding of what is fascism, Because I’m still certainly no expert on it, but I do know a little bit more now than I did even just a short while ago. I still had the feeling, though, that people were using it wrongly and that it was just another one of these demonized words like Nazi. A demonized, you know, weaponized word. What does it actually mean?</p>
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<p>And so I would say to people, when they use that word, or even people who are in our community of truth tellers and people who seem to know that were being lied to about this and that, but they would still use that word. So to those people, I would say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, I think that that word has been wrongly vilified and used, even though I myself did not yet know really what it was, but I still had the sense that they shouldn’t be just calling somebody a fascist if in the sense that, oh, that’s bad. You know, they’re bad.”</span></h3>
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<p>And so, yeah, it, we do need to stop people in their tracks when they’re using it, when we know that they should know better.</p>
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<p>So that’s our mission today, to bring that out a little bit. Why don’t you talk a little bit about. Oh, well, in our, in our discussions we were talking about Ernst Zundel and then who was Ernst Zundel’s mentor? Adrian Arcand. And that’s the man who really helped Ernst Zundel wake up! And in his own words, he felt “<em>born again</em>”, born again to the truth! Adrian Arcand, he is a Canadian, was a Canadian man. He’s no longer alive. That was a while back. And he did, I think it was like a 10 minute talk that we both really liked because he explains fascism. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Sure. <a href="https://odysee.com/@DiesIrae:3/ADRIEN-ARCAND-1962---Unique-English-interview:0">Adrian Arcand</a> was born in 1899 and he died in 1967. He was a politician and a writer and a journalist.</p>
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<p>And the interesting thing is, of course, when you look at the jew Wikipedia, you know, he was a “<em>fascist</em>” politician. You know, it’s like name calling. It’s juvenile use of words, because it’s not meant in a descriptive way, it’s meant in a demonizing way.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Adrien-Arcand-with-Adolf-Hitler-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24812" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Adrien-Arcand-with-Adolf-Hitler-montage.jpg" alt="" width="611" height="910" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Adrien-Arcand-with-Adolf-Hitler-montage.jpg 611w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Adrien-Arcand-with-Adolf-Hitler-montage-600x894.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px" /></a></p>
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<p>So when he was interviewed, and I love this interview because it made it very, very clear.</p>
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<p>And if you do a deep dive and you go on Wikipedia and you go on to the online dictionaries, the story of what fascism is so convoluted. What he says is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Fascism means nationalizing.”</span></h3>
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<p>He said it is:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s the control of a nation by its nationals.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then you go:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“So it’s having or expressing strong identification with one’s own nation and vigorous support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.”</span></h3>
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<p>So, for example, as a German born woman, while you’re a Canadian born, but you’re of German ancestry, you might have very strong nationalistic identification for Germany and its culture as it was. Would that be correct?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes. Basically fascism is nationalism.</p>
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<p>And it’s important to distinguish the word nationalism from patriotism, because nationalism means nationhood. And nationhood means your ethnic racial group. This is what you are loyal to this is who you want your country to be, geared towards the benefit of your people, basically.</p>
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<p>And so now that really would explain why in our mainstream, you know, weaponized lingo that’s been foisted upon us, that word has been turned into a weaponized label that is just so demonized! Because, I mean, who is it that owns the banks and owns the media? It is jewish. You know, it’s organized jewry. It’s jews who don’t like fascism precisely because it is basically an opposite of their agenda. It’s people working in their nations for their nation. And if your leaders are fascist, that’s a good thing. They are working for our interests in our nation and our nationhood. Back to you, Kathleen.</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p>And so what’s most interesting, too, if we look at what is happening today, to identify as a White woman, to identify with my ancestral origins, is considered very negative. That I could be considered a criminal in one way or another. It’s leading in those directions.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/ADRIEN-ARCAND-Canadian-political-leader-of-the-1930s-quote-on-jews.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37088" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/ADRIEN-ARCAND-Canadian-political-leader-of-the-1930s-quote-on-jews.jpg" alt="" width="558" height="761" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[See: <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/2015/11/23/what-world-famous-men-said-about-the-jews/#AboutJews-107">What World-Famous Men Said About the Jews</a>]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, one of the things that Adrian Arcand said was that the First World War was a revolt against the high culture and civilization of Germany. And it was to implant communism in Russia. And so that was what the First World War was about. And it was the most strategic place in the world because it was touching Europe, the Near East and Asia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the Second World War, it widened the scope of communism, it spread it, and it smashed down the empires of the Western world. Now high culture is what has been targeted by the Bolsheviks, the jews, both in Russia in the Bolshevik Revolution and World War I and World War II in Germany. And we see today the Christian ethics being absolutely trounced upon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So one of the things that Adrian Arkan looked at was what was happening right at the time he was in Canada and doing his work as a journalist. Rene Levesque was powerful at that point in time as well. And I remember, as you mentioned, I grew up in Canada. I remember his party. He was hard Left. And he described that he himself was far-Right. And he said, and this is defining fascism in a broader sense. And he’s saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Right affirms the sum total of tradition, which is made of high culture. And high culture consists of music and the arts and literature and science and mathematics. And it’s about revering these cultural classics.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s also about the existence of God, the existence of a human soul and the dignity of man and freedom, private property and the sacred rights of family, also of free enterprise, the free activity of free men and free markets.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the opposite spectrum of socialism, where Rene Levesque was postulating and socialism was defined by the Soviets, it denies God, it denies the human soul, it denies freedom, the dignity of man, it denies the sacred rights of family. It denies free enterprise. It denies private property and private initiative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you take a look at everything on the Left having to do with socialism, which in essence was the precursor to communism, which is Marxism, it’s all negative. And there was no substitution, there was no alternative.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas on the Right, it’s about family, it’s about high culture, it’s about valuing individuality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so all we have to do is take a look at, here’s this man who’s been claimed and called a fascist, and he acknowledges that he is, but his values are the values that are of very high morals and ethics. And I would be proud to walk beside and be a part of his legacy, which I feel like I am. And I’m proud to know that fascism, in fact, is a very positive and important word that embodies Christian ethics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you take a look at who’s throwing the daggers at the fascists, it’s the communists! It’s the Marxists! They’re the ones.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as I was doing my reading and looking at definitions and articles on fascism, the editors or the authors of those articles were, in one case, a Sephardic jew. And who is building Wikipedia on our computers?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So here we have a very clear explanation, in my opinion, of the difference between fascism and communism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Basically, they’re polar opposites. So fascism, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It just sounds to me like fascism is the opposite of communism! And when you say you would be honored to walk beside this man, you’re talking about Adrian Arcand, are you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Yes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And let me just mention that Adrian Arcand spent six years in a concentration camp.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, when I heard that, I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I just assumed in Europe.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like, somehow I didn’t know why. I didn’t know that much about him. I didn’t know why in Europe, but I just thought, well, that’s where these concentration camps were that we all have heard about so much. But, no, he was in a concentration camp in Canada for six years during the war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, the war didn’t last six years, so did he go into the concentration camp? Was he pulled in? You know, was he arrested and thrown in there before the war?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Or did they just keep him? Is that correct?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> I think it was 1940.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh. So after the war began. But then they held him in there for six years in a Canadian concentration camp. That blew my mind! I didn’t even know that that existed. Although we’ve all heard about the camps for the Japanese and that. But here was this French-Canadian guy from Quebec, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, but he was a fascist, which is the polar opposite of communism, and communism is what the Bolsheviks were. And we know that that was overwhelmingly a jewish operation. And even the jews say it themselves basically that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Judaism is communism and communism is Judaism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s one and the same thing. So we could just call it what it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Right. And so here we do have this name calling, and yet it is actually a compliment if you believe in God, if you believe in the sacredness of family, if you believe in individuality, if you believe in free market enterprise, if you believe in the right to own property.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So why would someone be hurling the word “<em>fascist</em>” against someone with spit and venom, when in fact it’s really an accolade? It’s such a positive characteristic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you look too this has been going on for so long, and fascism originated from my reading in Italy. And Ezra Pound, who most people will know and will be very familiar with his Cantos and his famous poem on usury, Usura. He was an American poet and he had many protege. He had T.S. Eliot and Ernest Hemingway. And my mind goes blank on the others, but there were four Pulitzer Prize winners, and he was never awarded that Pulitzer Prize himself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But he went to Italy, and during the wars, he was doing broadcasting, exposing the communist spread that was taking place in the Soviet Union as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution that hit in October 1917. And after the war, he was imprisoned by the US military and was kept in an iron cage. And then he was declared insane and put in St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in Washington, D.C. Where he wrote his most famous work, the Cantos. And finally he was released through the help of his friends. One was Ernest Hemingway. But we see how demonized, how threatening words are.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so if you can take a word and twist it, turn it upside down, flip it, the flipside, right? And if people don’t do the deep dive and really look at, well, what does that word mean, then they become under the spell, that grimoire.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so it’s our responsibility to pull apart everything that is being used against us so that we can shine light on it and walk proudly, knowing that with fascist beliefs, we are honorable people with integrity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[25:08]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well said, Kathleen. That is so well said!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, from now on, when somebody throws that word around, going to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank you, I’m a fascist. That’s a wonderful thing to be!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then if it’s people who are throwing that word around unknowingly or ignorant of the meaning of it. Because like I said earlier, even people who understand the truth about the “<em>Covidocaust</em>” or about the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, they understand they’re kind of most of the way there in terms of waking up to many of the lies around us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I suppose we’re always learning more and more, but they will still bandy about that word. And to them, that would be very effective, especially to them, because it will stop them in their tracks:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Say what? What do you mean?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then it gives us the opportunity to explain this word in the shortest form, you say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, it’s the opposite of communism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then we can expand on that and wow, that was a wonderful explanation. Yeah, really good!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I just want to say before the bottom of the hour, and I should have done this at the top of the hour when we began, but I really was just coming off of the previous hour with Frederick C. Blackburn on his Saturday Snack Shack.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I encourage listeners, if you don’t already tune into his show, you really should because it’s just such a great show and you can always find it in the archives.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I was a little bit, not completely my brain was still sort of wired on that. But I just wanted to say, Kathleen, a little bit of background on my friend Kathleen. She’s a poet, a singer, a healer, musician with, I think, several instruments, a writer. And you have many talents and skills that I think you should name a few more because I think I only just touched on those things. But the healing really intrigues me. You have a lot of knowledge on healing ourselves, and that is a very, very wonderful and important skill to have. And maybe you can share with people where they can find you if they are seeking healing help, for instance, because I know that you do this as your work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, thank you, Monika. Yes, I’m a reflexologist. I’ve also studied homeopathy and a lot of herbs and nutrition. And I have a website, it’s katdudley, KATDUDLEY dot com, and you can find me there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I’m also a builder of steps and, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Construction, we’re talking about?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Yes. And carports. And I love to build as well, so I have a strong intellectual draw, but I love the physical as well. I’m spreading large rock at the moment and rebuilding rock walls, so it helps keep me spry. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s wonderful! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Yeah. It actually just was so much fun for me to see the things you are building. And I’m thinking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, that’s really very nice that you just take this on, you learn how to do it and you obviously must have acquired a few tools and just go at it!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s great!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Thank you. Before we go to the break, I wanted to mention one thing that Adrian Arcand said in his, in that interview. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He said there is no anti-semitism. It never existed! He said it is a natural reaction against an assault of anti-gentilism which is non-jewish.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s a jewish conspiracy because I read it from jewish authors!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s great! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> That’s beautiful, Kathleen. Okay, hold on everybody. And we’ll be back in a few minutes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:34]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[ad]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[36:00]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[music]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[36:58]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> All right, I’d like to welcome you all back to The Flipside with Monika. And I would like to first of all, give out the numbers. We invite people to call in the second half of the hour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the number you can call in is 512-248-8252. That’s 512-248-8252 or 1-800-313-9443. We invite you to join our conversation with Kathleen Dudley and myself. And I’d also like to remind you that if you have the means, if you can possibly support this network because it is listener supported and some older equipment, I know that they’re looking to replace some of their older equipment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, during the break, Kathleen and I were kind of laughing about the fact that she had asked me to have a guest that would explain these words, “<em>fascism</em>” and some of these other words.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I said to her, well, careful what you wish for, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> because here she is and she’s doing a marvelous job of explaining the fascism and fascist, the whole concept of that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, okay, Kathleen, why don’t we carry on with that discussion? And we had mentioned that there are some other words as well that we could go into that perhaps people don’t have really the best understanding of well, one word that came to mind right at the beginning that you mentioned already was “<em>Nazi</em>” and we know there’s a history of that. It was actually a jew who put that word into the lexicon to denigrate the National Socialists. Do you want to talk about that a little bit?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[39:02]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, I haven’t done the deep dive on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> But one of the things that I found very interesting from Adrian Arcand was that he said that the term “<em>fascism</em>”, when it arose in the 1920s in Italy, the word “<em>Nazism</em>” arose in Germany, but that that had to do with Nazi-lism Nazi-nationalism, and that it was really about nationalistic perspectives expressing strong identification with one’s own nation and vigorous support for its interest. So I was quite surprised by that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then also in Spain, there was another term using their Spanish language, which I don’t recall. So that’s really all I can contribute at this moment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay. No, but that’s even just that about the Nazi-lism with the “<em>l</em>” in there. So nationalism. And that is that word that the Bolsheviks, the jews, they don’t like that concept of nationalism. And that would be like fascism. That would be so that’s why those words are so demonized! And anybody that does anything bad these days is called a Nazi, or a fascist. That’s why those terms are so demonized!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you know that this is something that I am very, very interested in and have talked quite a lot about. My brother Alfred talks about it a lot, is our language and how our language has been so turned against us to compartmentalize our brains, to stop us from thinking straight, to frighten people, to make people think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we can’t talk about that. And we can’t talk about this!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And make people scared to say anything anymore. And that’s all it is, really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so if we can take these words, first of all, to clarify in our heads that they are just weaponized words, and in most cases, they actually have been turned upside down to mean the opposite. Like you illustrated so well with the word fascist.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, you know, run with it. When somebody calls you something bad like this, say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank you. Thank you for noticing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s surprising how quickly it takes the wind out of their sails. You know, if somebody says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, you’re an anti-semite!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, thank you. Thank you for noticing. Yeah, you should be too!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Something like that. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Right? So it’s what we do with these epithets thrown at us that we can kind of change the discourse. What do you think about that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, and people don’t even know that Semites are Arabs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so when you say you’re anti-semitic, you’re against the Arabs, well, that doesn’t even make sense because we’re talking about the jews and we’re talking about the Sephardic jews, and we’re talking about the Khazarian jews. We’re talking about. We’re not even talking about the biblical jews because the Hebrews, the descendants of that is so minuscule today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the jews that have evolved to today have moved into countries, have moved into religions, have moved into businesses. They’ve basically taken on the sheep’s clothing that the wolf is wearing. And it’s been done slyly, very cleverly. And so everything has been done with duplicity. And that’s what we’re finding as we unbury the garbled of these words, the grimoire, the confusion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so once we find the truth in all of that, then we can shine the light on it. And that is what the rats in the center of the room don’t want. They’ll scurry to the edges.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, they will.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, Kathleen, there is something else that you have been doing over the last few months. I think you’ve been doing a lot of reading, and once you started, you just couldn’t get enough. Why don’t you tell us a little bit. What got you started in this direction? I won’t mention. I’ll let you talk about what have you been getting into so deeply reading, reading, reading lately? Tell us, please.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Okay. Well, I’ve always been a reader, but in January of 2023, I did a deep dive on 19th century and, 20th century writers, which introduced me to Ezra Pound and all of his contemporaries, T.S. Eliot, Robert Frost. And then there were quotes by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in that. And I was in the courts at that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Schaefer-Trials-Alexander-Solzenhitsyn-quote-on-jews-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-26475" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Schaefer-Trials-Alexander-Solzenhitsyn-quote-on-jews-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution.jpg" alt="" width="761" height="755" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Schaefer-Trials-Alexander-Solzenhitsyn-quote-on-jews-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution.jpg 761w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-Schaefer-Trials-Alexander-Solzenhitsyn-quote-on-jews-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution-600x595.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 761px) 100vw, 761px" /></a></p>
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<p>And so there was tremendous angst and tremendous pressure and assault. And I needed a place to be able to go for truth and for some sense of a spiritual lift. And I was talking to a friend and he had been reading The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, it’s time for me to read him.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I remember when he was exiled from the Soviet Union, and it’s time, it’s just time. And there are three volumes of the Gulag Archipelago, and I started diving into them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, at that time, I was being threatened with imprisonment. And so I was trying to figure out how this arrest was going to go. And curiously, the first chapter in the first volume of The Gulag Archipelago is called The Arrest. And it was as many a hundred different ways to skin a cat. You know, they came at night. It was always secretively done. Innocent people were taken and they were shipped off to Gulags, they were shipped off to prisons in Siberia. They were separated from family, and the rest of the citizens didn’t know or at various times, and they were threatened and they kept silent. And this went on and on. It went on as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. And now Solzhenitsyn was born in 1918, so it was even a year after the revolution. But he was raised in this communist milieu.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[46:29]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, his mother was of the Christian Orthodox faith, and his father had been killed when he was in the army. And so he was raised by his mother, and his mother wanted to raise him with Christian values. So he was taught the Russian Orthodox Christianity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But he became a communist because that was just the way he was programed, along with all of his peers. And he was a writer just by nature, and wanted to be a writer. He knew he wanted to be a writer from the time he was about was very young, but I think about seven years old. He was in the army and he was corresponding with one of his compatriots, and his letter was intercepted and he was thrown into the Gulag under Stalin for speaking against Stalin’s concepts. And he was there for eight years, and then later he was exiled for three years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what he did during that time was he observed and he wrote. He was a real man of spiritual life, and he loved humanity, he loved the people, and he loved the Russian people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so he managed to develop his memory to such a degree that he memorized everything he wrote, and he memorized everything that other people told him, including writers, verbatim. He could quote them. And he had to store all this in his mind. And he did that whole time, the eight years that he was imprisoned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he was one of the very first to expose all of the atrocities of the Soviet Union’s repressive system and that they had been secretly perpetrating against their people. It was upwards of 100 million Christian Russians were murdered under Lenin and Stalin and even Khrushchev, even though that was considered the thaw. But he was then also removed because he was lessening his rule too much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Solzhenitsyn wrote these amazing books, his first one that they allowed to be published, because under Communist rule, under these repressive rulings, the censorship doesn’t want anything to move out into another country so that anyone can know what the atrocities are, what is going on. But because Khrushchev did this thaw, he allowed the book called One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich in 1962. And it was the first time a household could sit around the table and read about what had been going on to their people and how they’d been sent to the prisons and how they’ve been tortured and how they’ve been murdered, had they been pulled out of society and destroyed.</p>
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<p>And this was it was allowed because Khrushchev thought that this was something that Solzhenitsyn was writing about, about Stalin and Lenin and didn’t realize that it also was being written about him. And it was also under Khrushchev that he was exonerated for his crimes, that he didn’t commit any crimes, but he was still exonerated.</p>
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<p>And then he was writing the book called The Gulag Archipelago. And that book was a real deep dive. It’s the one that I read the three volumes of all of the tortures and all of the horrors of the Russian people.</p>
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<p>And he had to pass it around on pieces of paper and on transcripts because he was constantly being followed. And it couldn’t get into the authorities hands or he would have been killed. But it did slip into the authorities hands through the secretary. And she was tortured and she ultimately committed suicide because she felt so responsible for the fact that she was the one that allowed the authorities to get this document.</p>
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<p>And so he managed to get it out of the Soviet Union to the West. And it was published, and that was in 1973. And as a result of that publication, he was exiled from the Soviet Union.</p>
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<p>And ultimately he moved to the United States in 1976, where he wrote the Red Wheel, which was the Russian Revolution of 1917 and dramatized. But this man is one of the most famous and most important Russian writers of modern time. And just his courage to be able to take the words and to honor the lives of all these people who were destroyed in the Gulags and under Stalin’s bloodbath.</p>
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<p>And finally, when the Soviet Union collapsed, his wife and he regained their citizenship and in 1990, went back to Moscow, and he lived to quite an old age of 89. His wife is still alive. They have three sons. One of them, Ignat Solzhenitsyn, is a musician and a conductor who lives in the United States.</p>
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<p>The other two are in the Soviet Union. But he’s known very famously for his Harvard speech. And I would highly recommend everyone going on YouTube and listening to it, because he’s warning about the dangers of the communist aggression and the weakening of the moral fiber of the West. And he says the materialism is really what has destroyed us in the West.</p>
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<p>And I think if we do some reflecting, we can see how that is possible. And it is astonishing! He lived a tremendous life, and I am so grateful to him.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s for sure. You know, interestingly enough, my brother Alfred, he was able to get these books from the prison library, The Gulag Archipelago, and he read them in prison. I was quite surprised by that they were available for him to read there. Wow! That’s such an interesting story. But I’m so surprised that when he had these books published, he was exiled for it. I’m kind of surprised they didn’t just, &#8230; Well, I suppose it would have put more attention on the books if they had just killed him. Right. Maybe they didn’t want to do that, but they didn’t want to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> He was certainly concerned that his family and he were going to be killed. So the fact that they didn’t kill him and they exiled him is probably correct, that it would have brought too much attention because the books had already been published.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Right. He would have been a Martyr. It would have Martyred him, and then even more people would have read the books.</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Yes. Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. This way they just kind of put him out of the way and hope that it just nobody is much interested in them. I do have the books, and I haven’t read them yet, but you are causing me to want to read them soon. This is always my trouble. I have so many books that I want to read and to find enough time to do so.</p>
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<p>But now he also wrote a book, Two Hundred Years Together. Do you know anything about that? Has it been translated into English yet?</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Actually, I just received it in the mail today. And it’s the history, quote, “<em>of the jewish problem in Russia</em>”. And he is writing about what happened prior to the Revolution, the October 1917 Revolution, and what it was like living in Russia with the jews. Because under the czars, you know, up until Nicholas the First, they were excluded from society, and they were very limited. And when Nicholas the First allowed them in, what ended up happening is they grew. They created their capacity to build their Bolshevik Revolution, and they brought all their revolutionaries in from all over the world.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, okay. Thank you know, Kathleen, we do actually have a caller on the line now. So and we only have less than two minutes left, so I would like to invite Mike in Kentucky on line one. Are you there?</p>
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<p><strong>Mike:</strong> Yeah, I should have called earlier, but stop me if you’ve heard this one:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We cannot Reform the Bolsheviks, but we can do our best to save them and ourselves from the consequences of their act.”</span></h3>
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<p>And that is the opening letter from E. Hewitt, Assistant Secretary, I think it’s the Ministry of Information:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Ministry can enter into no correspondence of any kind with regard to this communication, which should only be disclosed to responsible persons.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s a letter to the clergy asking them for their expression of belief into the allegations against Japan and Germany in order to distract the public’s attention from the doings of the Red Army. 1944. That’s in a book published in 1959 by Edward J. Rosnick called Allied Wartime Diplomacy.</p>
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<p>I was going to bring that up on Blackbird9’s thing about how they killed the Russians, I mean, the general who wanted to go after Russia, Patton.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, thank you. Yeah, we just have a few seconds. Do you want to comment on any of that, Kathleen? That’s very interesting.</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Well, I think I’ll leave that for you, Monika.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, just wait. Well, I can already hear the music, but, Mike, I really appreciate that you called in and yeah, too bad you didn’t call earlier. It sounds very interesting, what you have there, the good information. Thank you, everybody for listening and thank you, Kathleen, for giving us a great talk about fascism. And thank you, Frank, that’s the producer. And thank you most of all the listeners. Bye bye.</p>
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<p><strong>Kathleen Dudley:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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[In this weekly podcast episode on Republic Broadcasting Network, Canadian nationalist and author, Monika Schaefer talks with long time fellow Canadian nationalist and founding member of the Truth and Justice for Germans Society, Oscar.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This discuss historical events, especially WWII, the “Holocaust”, 9/11, conspiracy theories, the demonization of Germans, race relations, democracy, nutrition, etc., from the perspective that we have been deceived about these topics, by the (((usual suspects))).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">And btw, Monika very graciously gives myself and this blog a plug! Thank you Monika!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Good evening. It is Saturday, the 20th of July in the year 2024, and you are tuned into the Republic Broadcasting Network. I am your host, Monika Schaefer, and this is episode four of The Flipside with Monika. I’d like to encourage you, first of all, if you have the means, to support RBN. It does cost money to run a network such as this and they are doing a summer fundraiser in which you can get something in return for your donation. Well, you always get something in return. That is a wonderful free speech network!</p>
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<p>But more specifically, they do have some special T-shirts to give away. You can find the information how to donate like the telephone number on their website, Republicbroadcasting.org. Before I introduce today’s guest, and I am hoping he does show up, I just talked to him less than 2 hours ago, but I think we’re having a hard time reaching him right now.</p>
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<p>But anyway, before I do that, I have some other things to say. So I’d like to give a shout out to a patriot whose online persona is Katana. He has a website, katana17.com. And I’ve been acquainted with Katana since just days after I made my video in 2016. That was that fateful video called Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust. And the reason I got acquainted with him then is because he transcribed it right away, and he put that transcription onto his website with memes and images. It was really nice. I was quite surprised, actually, that that showed up.</p>
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<p>So then I was introduced to his work. And what he does is he transcribes a lot of videos and interviews, which he thinks are important to preserve in this other format, the written format or the printed word. There are many advantages to having things in a written form, and he had a section back then – I’m sure he still does on his website – that explained the many different advantages to having things like videos and interviews in the written form.* I mean, you could print it off and read it. It does give it some degree of permanency. Some people prefer to read things rather than listen to an interview. There’s all kinds of reasons.</p>
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<p>Anyway, then, over the years, since 2016, I have received a tremendous amount of support and encouragement and assistance from Katana.</p>
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<p>In fact, his encouragement for me to write a book was absolutely critical! And I don’t think I ever would have written that book that I wrote without Katana’s encouragement. And the book that has the same title as my fateful video, the Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About the Holocaust. The video was just six minutes long the book is a little bit longer than that! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-33792" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-774x1024.jpg" alt="" width="452" height="598" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-774x1024.jpg 774w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-600x794.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book-768x1016.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-Rizoli-Monika-Schaefer-20230103-3223-Monikas-book.jpg 1005w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 452px) 100vw, 452px" /></a></p>
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<p>Anyway, so I just want to say thank you, Katana. Oh, and of course, and the reason I wanted to do this shout out now, I’m very grateful to him for also having transcribed the first three episodes of this show, The Flipside with Monika.</p>
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<p>So thank you to Katana!</p>
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<p>Okay, now I would like to introduce my guest. I’m wondering if he’s had any luck getting on or., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> I’m on now.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay, good.</p>
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<p>Okay, so I’d like to introduce my guest, who was one of the founding members of the Truth and Justice for Germans Society back in 2014. And his online persona is Oscar.</p>
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<p>Now, through the years, I have learned so much from this man. Every time we had conversations together, he shared his insights with me, not only on historical events, but about race relations, about democracy, and even about nutrition.</p>
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<p>So I think we might connect some of the dots on these seemingly disparate topics tonight.</p>
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<p>But first, let me welcome Oscar onto the broadcast and ask you if you could please tell us, just give us a little bit of background. What led you and what motivated you to become a founding member of the Truth and Justice for Germans Society? Which, by the way, just before you do that, I just wanted to mention that I am involved in that society. So is of great interest to me. And the title of that society does say it all, really, what it’s about. I mean, obviously there’s lots to it, but the Truth and Justice for Germans Society. Okay. Welcome Oscar onto the show.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Hi, Monika. Can you hear me okay?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, I can. Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Okay. Yeah. Thanks for having me on. So I joined the Truth and Justice for Germans Society, I believe it was 2014. The society was started by a German fellow who had been, &#8230; This was kind of like a project he’d been working on for a long time. He put a lot of information together in a website, and then he wanted to create, like, an organization, a society to go along with the website. So he approached myself and a couple other people, a couple of friends, and asked us to help them set up this society. So that’s sort of how it started.</p>
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<p>Now, myself and the two other people that he approached to help set it up, I mean, we all knew each other. We were sort of, I guess, at that point called “<em>conspiracy theorists</em>” because we were discussing, and 9/11 and all sorts of other things, and the direction society is going in. And, of course, you know, World War Two plays a big part in that. So that’s sort of how it initially got started.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. And obviously, if you were friends with him and he asked you to help with the founding of the Truth and Justice for Germans Society, it means that you had opened your eyes to what is going on in the world.</p>
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<p>And you mentioned the word “<em>conspiracy theorists</em>”. Yeah, that’s a great term that was foisted on us, I think probably back in, after the Kennedy <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[JFK]</strong></span> assassination, because they noticed that too many people were noticing that something was wrong with their assessment of things. So they turned that term into such a derogatory term. And it’s been used ever since to make fun of or belittle people who are actually seeing, noticing patterns.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> It’s just to discredit people who are interested in finding out the truth and what’s really going on.</p>
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<p>And also researching and discovering that most of what we’ve been told about history is a lie! You know, most of everything we’re told in society is a lie! You know, whether its history, nutrition, immigration, “<em>Holocaust</em>”, everything!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> It’s all a big lie!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s why I thought we might connect some of those dots today. Because even if it sounds like those topics that I mentioned, that I have personally learned a lot of things from you, and that was including nutrition, sounds like that doesn’t really have that much to do with the other topics like history, Holocaust, race relations. What does nutrition have to do with that?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Nutrition has a lot to do with it because really, I mean, what our enemy is doing is weakening us! And they poison our food, and then they give us an upside down food pyramid. When you’re not eating a nutritionally sound diet you’re going to be weaker physically and mentally. So it’s part of the overall war against White people.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Nutrition factors in very, very much. I mean you have the vegan and vegetarian cults which ensnares, like, most young women, and this creates more health problems. It makes it harder for them to conceive. So it’s also an attack on White fertility.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I agree.</p>
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<p>And you mentioned against the White race in particular. Do you think that the nutritional attack or the assault on us through false information about nutrition, do you think that is specifically aimed at European people, at White people?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Completely! Because pretty much every young White female girl is ensnared in the vegetarian-vegan cult. They get them young and they get them in this cult, and it creates nothing but health problems. And like, I said, it’s going to make it very difficult for these people to conceive children.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I mean, I would agree with you. And they, I think they can do it through taking advantage of the empathy, we love nature, we love animals. Isn’t that part of it?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yeah. Yes, very much so! The whole thing about the cruelty to animals and, it’s like the vegans are all about:</p>
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<p>And meanwhile, that person has like a nice watch with a leather strap and leather jacket. And I mean, there’s a lot of hypocrisy that goes along with this whole agenda as well. But, at the end of the day, it is what it is. And it’s just one of the many weapons of used to attack the White race.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I agree. You know, the other day we were talking on the phone in anticipation of this, and we were talking about diseases in the past, and specifically we talked about the plague.</p>
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<p>And I think that many of us have reached different conclusions now about that. Do you want to talk a little bit about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, again, I mean, we were told that the plague was this highly contagious disease that was spread from human to human.</p>
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<p>And I think certainly the Covid scam has opened a lot of people’s eyes to the fact that viruses are not real and like, human contagion is not a thing. You know, the concept that humans pass disease to one another. I mean, if that was true, we would have gone extinct a long time ago.</p>
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<p>So this brings you back to the other theory of poisoning of the wells, which now seems to have a little more legitimacy once we start realizing that it wasn’t a contagious outbreak spreading from human to human, it was something else.</p>
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<p>I mean, there is some documented evidence of people being caught poisoning wells, and tried and executed. But the six o’clock news is not going to talk about stuff like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> No, and neither are they going to teach that to the children in school what the real causes of the plague were. And they probably won’t mention the (((tribe))) that, who were these well poisoners. These are things that were not taught in the mainstream sources nor in our public education system!</p>
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<p>And interesting. I’m glad you brought the, made the connection between then and now. This Covid, the bio-weapon, which they coerced through very strong measures. Like people were fired, people were not allowed into places, young people were not allowed into universities, or institutions like that, if they didn’t roll up their sleeve and get that bio-weapon. Oh, excuse me, they called it the “<em>vaccine</em>”. But even now it’s like that has disappeared from the news cycle because they’ve got other things to distract the public from.</p>
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<p>Like, for example, Trump’s ear supposedly being shot and everybody’s talking about that now. And this other huge matter which is affecting millions of people who are either dying or are severely injured, that’s just gone away. It’s like it’s being forgotten. Or is it being forgotten? Do you want to comment about that? And bring then to now?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> The mainstream news is not going to ever address the number of vaccine injuries or the number of people who’ve died from the vaccine. They’re just going to ignore it. The only place you’ll get any news about that or information is on the alternate media.</p>
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<p>And like you said, they’re just going to move on to their next pandemic or their next crisis or whatever, like the supposed assassination of Donald Trump. I mean, all these events are very fishy.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oh, yeah, that’s definitely an understatement. I would say! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> It’s a piece of theater. And even at that, even if it was real, we’re talking about a governance system, which we touched on this in our pre-show conversation the other day, too, about democracy.</p>
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<p>And I hope we’re not jumping topics here too much, but I do think this is all related, and we can tie this all together then. But this governance system that I was taught in school:</p>
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<p>And this was hammered into our brains! And we just thought it was so great because they always told us it was the best system, really the only system. Like, it was so solidly implanted into our psyche that really we could just think:</p>
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<p>But what do you think about that, Oscar? Should we even be paying attention to voting and democracy? And is this working for us? Do you think this is really working for us? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, no, it doesn’t work. Your vote doesn’t matter, really. I mean, democracy is just a, just a warm up round for full on communism. You know, we certainly saw that with the Covid pandemic. We all had this notion that we live in a democracy, and you wake up the next day and you’re not allowed to leave your house, and if you don’t take an injection, you’re going to lose your job. It’s like, how did that happen overnight? That’s, well, so much for our democracy!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Actually, I find that a really interesting statement to say that democracy is actually a stepping stone to communism. To me, that’s a new idea. It’s really, really good, actually. We should expand on that a little bit more. We should explore that a little bit more. How does that happen? You’re right. Like, going from, &#8230; yeah, go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, your vote doesn’t matter. I mean, let’s say you run a business and you have a family, you own a house. You have a vested interest in the state of the economy. You have a vested interest in the health of your country s But when you go vote and then let’s say this 20 year old girl with pink hair and she’s a transgender lesbian. Well, your vote carries the same weight as her vote. She has no stake in the economy. You know, she just wants to tear everything down!</p>
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<p>So that’s another problem.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I guess that is a communist idea, isn’t it? That everybody is equal, so everybody has a vote! No matter what position you have in life. That right there is, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, again, I mean, this notion of “<em>everybody and everything is equal</em>”, that’s a communist ideal, because nothing is further from the truth!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> People that have no vested interest in the economy, the state of the nation, whatever, their vote carries the same weight as people that have a very definite vested interest in the economy and the nation. So this is a problem.</p>
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<p>And Western countries are all multicultural now, and different cultures have different values, different outlooks on life and they’re going to vote for the party that’s soft on immigration so they can bring all their relatives into the country. Democracy doesn’t work. It creates, like, a mob rule.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah. No, this is a very profound idea, I have to say. I mean, I was so into the whole “<em>democracy thing</em>” all my life, and then I even ran as a candidate, and please don’t hold it against me, but I ran in that Green Party, which I now understand to be “<em>watermelon party</em>”, which is really the worst of them all!</p>
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<p>And what I mean by “<em>watermelon</em>”, it’s green on the outside and red on the inside. It is really a communist party!</p>
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<p>But now we’re talking about the whole idea of democracy is communist, but the Green party legitimizes it. Go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> The hidden agenda of the Green Party, and like because about the same time, Green parties appeared in pretty much every Western country. But the Green party was used as a vehicle to start introducing all these crazy “<em>green initiatives</em>”. And then over time, all these ideas eventually became adopted by the mainstream parties. But they used the Green party to float these ideas out into the public sphere. And then over time, the mainstream parties just eventually adopted all these policies.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Bingo! You nailed it! Because this is the idea that’s been percolating in my head, too. This very idea that the Green Party actually sets the agenda, even though they are still, and they have been very much just on the fringe. Took them a long time before they even got a single seat. Then they got a few seats, and yet they are setting the agenda, all the way!</p>
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<p>In fact, I’ll just tell you a little quote from Elizabeth May. And I used to think it was so noble! Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party of Canada back then, when she said this, and now still she says:</p>
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<p>Sorry. No, this is a different quote. She said:</p>
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<p>So I thought that was really noble because I thought:</p>
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<p>And yet what I see is that she was basically encapsulating exactly what happens, is that the Green party sets the agenda. They bring forth the ideas, and then the main parties, the big parties, the “<em>gray parties</em>”, as the Greens used to call them, they implement them. Isn’t that interesting?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yeah, well, once they’ve, you know, been floating around in, out there on the media for X number of years, people get used to hearing this and then over time they just become more acceptable to these ideas. When you look at these green policies they’re trying to implement, like this Green New deal right now. I mean, really it just ties into Agenda 2030.</p>
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<p>So it’s not about going green. It’s about going without!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Indeed.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> You know, we have an abundance of energy and resources. But those who pull the strings, want everyone to be equally poor. And that includes being energy poor.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Through a big, big fat lie about carbon and carbon dioxide. I mean, that like, &#8230; Go ahead. Sorry.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> That’s the biggest lie of them all, is the CO2 is going to destroy the atmosphere and kill us all!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And yet CO2 is the stuff of life! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Like the pre-industrial CO2 levels of 280 parts per million. I mean, that was dangerous. Dangerously low!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> That’s approaching extinction level.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> So now it’s up to, like, around 400, or more. But the result of that is the earth is getting greener and agricultural yields have improved. And when plants get more CO2, they can survive with less water. So it’s an all around better situation if there’s a bit more CO2 in the atmosphere.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I think it’s interesting that you say:</p>
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<p>Because I think you’re right. And it took me longer to dissect that lie or to come to terms with it than the Holocaust lie, even though the Holocaust has been drummed into us since we were born, basically. And the Holocaust lie is punishable if you question that one.</p>
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<p>Whereas if you questioned their narrative on climate change, so far anyway, you don’t go to jail for it. Although they start inserting words like:</p>
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<p>And we know that that weaponized term has its power from the “<em>Holocaust denier</em>” term. So who knows in future what all they will deem us criminal for disagreeing with their narrative on.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, that one is a huge lie because they are using that narrative of climate change and that we are burning up and we are responsible for ruining the planet. They are using that for their 2030 agenda or whatever all these other agendas are called.</p>
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<p>And I think we are going to a break now, but we will be right back.</p>
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<p>All right, I would like to welcome you back to The Flipside with Monika. And I would like to also invite you, if you would like to call in, the number is 512-248-8252. And there’s also a 1800 number if you can’t call on that number, it’s 1800 313 9443.</p>
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<p>But first, I’d like to just make some more observations with my guest, Oscar. And you probably know what song that was on the bumper music after the ads, before and after the ads there. And the fact that there are many German people who have been so brought down to their knees that they flinch when they hear that music because they have been made to feel badly about their national anthem. Do you want to comment on that, Oscar?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, I guess that’s all part and parcel of the, &#8230; After World War Two, they instituted the so-called de-Nazification program. You know, pretty much every school book, every book published between 1933 and 1945 was destroyed by the Allies. They were the real book burners of history!</p>
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<p>So that was part of the de-Nazification process. I mean, everything about National Socialism had to be destroyed, because it was the most effective form of governance that the modern world has seen! It wasn’t just the economic miracle. It was also a cultural and spiritual revolution as well. And if it wasn’t squashed with World War Two, it would have spread to most of the Western world.</p>
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<p>So this is one of the main reasons for World War Two, what Hitler and what the Germans were doing. It was showing everyone that there’s a better way! You know, it was really a struggle of European nationalism versus jewish globalism.</p>
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<p>And unfortunately, the end result, the bad guys won and the good guys lost. I’m referring to the Germans. They were the good guys in World War Two!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Indeed, indeed! Everything been turned on its head, hasn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yeah, I like to quote what Goebbels said once. He said:</p>
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<p>And, well, right now things look pretty dark in the Western world! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You know, we’re being massively overrun with third world immigrants. Our economies are being trashed. We just went through this whole Covid scam where they injected 80% of the population with some mysterious poison.</p>
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<p>Now they’re throwing this climate change green agenda at us. And there’s the digital currency looming on the horizon somewhere.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, I mean, this is everything that Hitler and the Germans were fighting against. This is exactly what they were fighting against!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly! Yeah. It makes me weep to know that, to learn that! And then to have Hitler be so demonized! I’m telling you, it took a long time, even after I learned the truth about World War Two and that the Holocaust didn’t happen. And actually, everything was kind of backwards and reversed in terms of what they told us. Even then, it took a while before I could decontaminate myself from those lies about Hitler. Because even though I then understood that he was a good guy, not this devil incarnate, I would still flinch when I saw him portrayed in a positive light.</p>
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<p>I have, in the meantime, been very successful at decontaminating myself from that mind poison, so I do not flinch any longer! And I really think he was one of the greatest men that ever lived!</p>
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<p>And I will just say the jews, they head up making the curriculum, and they own the media, the mass media, and they have poisoned us with their lies and deceptions about Hitler. And I guess it’s because of that fantastic way of governing, the National Socialist way, and what you just described that was really, really great.</p>
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<p>And I think you could expand on that. It was spiritual in addition to their attitude towards the environment, everything about it was so good! Like you say, it would have spread to many more countries. Go ahead.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> It definitely would have, especially when they can see that Hitler circumvented the international bankers, that the German economy was thriving. And other countries could have easily followed that same program and achieved similar levels of success. Because Germany was thriving in the middle of The <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Great]</strong></span> Depression.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> The United States and England were mired deep in the recession, mass unemployment, poverty, misery. And by 1935, the German economy was booming. The standard of living was rising dramatically. People were happy. People were optimistic about the future. So yeah, I mean this why, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> And brought., &#8230; Go ahead, finish your thought there.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Oh, yeah. I sort of lost it!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay, no problem. He brought the Germans out of a state of poverty and suffering. Like after World War One, there was hunger in Germany. I know that from firsthand. Well, actually, I guess I should call it secondhand, it’s from my parents. Does one call that firsthand or secondhand?</p>
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<p>Anyway, my parents, they lived that poverty after World War One. My dad was born in 1919. And, I mean, his mom took him to the doctor at age four because he was bow-legged*. So malnourished and he hadn’t started talking yet, and she was concerned about him. The doctor said:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[* Rickets is a condition that results in weak or soft bones in children, and is caused by either dietary deficiency (Vitamin D) or genetic causes. Symptoms include bowed legs, stunted growth, bone pain, large forehead, and trouble sleeping.]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But that was the poverty that he was born into. And my mother, well, she was born a little bit later, 1928. But Germany after World War One was so poor that so many suicides took place. All kinds of things like that.</p>
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<p>And then after Hitler came to power in 1933, things really, really changed!</p>
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<p>And like you said, the middle of <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[The Great]</strong></span> Depression in the rest of the world, and Germany was doing very well, and leaders from various countries went to Germany to see:</p>
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<p>And to see how he was doing that economic miracle.</p>
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<p>So, yeah. Did you want to just comment? And then after that we could take a caller.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yeah, well, it’s actually not a complicated formula. He freed his people from the clutches of the jewish banking cartels. And of course, he also got rid of all the jewish sponsored degeneracy that was going on in Germany in the late twenties and early thirties, the Weimar Republic, I mean, so, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So, yeah, I like what you say. It was not a complicated formula! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> Get rid of jewish influence, jewish power! That is not complicated formula. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> You have to get rid of the jewish money power and the jewish influence over your society. And I mean you just look at the United States today. Well, that’s like Weimar 2.0.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> It certainly is. And here in Canada, too.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yeah, but I mean, I’m not sure there’s a Hitler in the waiting to get us out of this mess!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> I think this time every individual’s gotta see their own way out of it. And hopefully enough will do that it’ll create a big enough movement and change in society.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, that’s right. Everybody needs to act. And if you’re looking for leadership, just look in the mirror, and don’t wait for somebody else to do something. I think we’re at that stage. You’re absolutely right!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Donald Trump, unfortunately not the savior of the White race.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> That’s right. I agree 100% with you.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Anyone who’s put their hand on the Wailing Wall* is not someone you can trust.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[* The Wailing Wall, also referred to as the Kotel, the Western Wall, or Solomon’s Wall, and whose lower sections date to about the first century BCE, is located in the Old Quarter of East Jerusalem in Israel/Palestine. Built of thick, corroded limestone, it is about 60 feet (20 meters) high and close to 160 feet (50 meters) long, though most of it is engulfed in other structures. A Sacred Jewish Site: The wall is believed by devout jews to be the Western Wall of the Second Temple of Jerusalem (destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE), the only surviving structure of the Herodian Temple built during the realm of Herod Agrippa (37 BCE–4 CE) in the first century BCE. The temple’s original location is in dispute, leading some Arabs to dispute the claim that the wall belongs to the temple, arguing instead that it is part of the structure of Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount.]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I agree with you. Well, let’s take a caller, Bradley in Texas.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Can you, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> Hello. Great to speak with you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, welcome to the show. So do you have a question, or a comment?</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> A comment, I guess. It’s just very enlightening to hear, very refreshing enlightening people talk about the history that we’ve been denied. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You know, the big book burning that happened in Germany, though they didn’t show you the books, they were perversion books. Kind of like what’s going on now with what they’re pushing LGBTQ, all this crap!</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Yes, that’s correct. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> Yeah. And I’m very aware of the Holohoax. You know, it was garbage too. And so few people are aware of these things. Most of the stations I listen to are limited hangouts. I met John Stadmiller back around, 2000, under Lisa Beeth and her husband, Bill Beeth. We’re at a conference with Ron Paul. Really interesting to meet him, and I love his network.</p>
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<p>And so I thought I’d tune in, listen to what show he has playing. And lo and behold, some really enlightened people. It’s really refreshing. I enjoy your talk.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Well, thank you so much! And did you have a question for our guest?</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> I can’t think of one, really. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay. Well, it’s really, really nice. It’s very refreshing to have your call. Thank you so much!</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> Okay, thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Bradley:</strong> Bye bye.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> So, Oscar, is there anything in particular you want to lead the conversation into, or carry on with?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, I’ll just touch on the Holocaust for a minute.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yes, very appropriate. Because I do see that as the linchpin lie, underlying jewish power. That’s how I see it. Anyway, do, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> But, yes, I mean, that’s correct. I mean, in a way, they very much predicated their future on the Holocaust lie. And that’s probably one of the reasons they so fiercely protect the Holocaust lie. I mean, pretty much every Western country now has laws against denying the Holocaust. I mean, even in Russia, it’s against the law to deny the Holocaust.</p>
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<p>But there’s a very simple formula I use, and this applies to any agenda!</p>
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<p>So when you have any agenda that requires censorship, you know it’s a lie! Whether it’s the Holocaust, Covid, 9/11, whatever! If it requires censorship, it’s guaranteed to be a lie! The truth never requires censorship!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I agree. I agree 100%! The truth does not fear investigation and it does not fear debate about it. Yeah, that’s absolutely true!</p>
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<p>And I would say that the Holocaust epitomizes the jewish narrative of always being the persecuted people and that everybody’s out to get them. And the Holocaust is the modern day, like, it epitomizes that narrative that goes back a long ways! I think they’ve been crying the blues about being the persecuted people for a long time! But now, Holocaust is the modern episode of that.</p>
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<p>And why are they making all these laws in all our countries? It’s because if that, it’s not a matter of if, it’s when, because it’s already happening big time. The Holocaust lie, when that falls and really falls, their whole house of cards tumbles down!</p>
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<p>This is what I think. Because boy, oh, boy, I think the Holocaust lie underpins everything! I mean, when we object to immigration, they shout:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, racist! That’s Holocaust is gonna happen! Another holocaust is gonna happen <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> because you’re racist!”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, that’s just one example, but it underpins their power, let alone all the money they’ve extorted for it.</p>
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<p>We have another caller, Ed, in Iowa. Would, would you like to bring in Ed?</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Mr producer. Do we have? Okay, Ed.</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> Hello?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Hello. Welcome to the show.</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> Okay. I wasn’t sure. I didn’t know I was on.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Okay, go ahead. Do you have a question, or a comment?</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> I have a comment. And it’s a extremely important for everybody to listen to this. What do you think is the biggest lie that we’ve been told to keep us in check? What do you think it is?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Go ahead, Oscar, if you want to answer that.</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> Do you guys know what it is?</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> I mean, me, I think it’s the holocaust, but go ahead, Oscar.</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> No, no, it’s not even close! The biggest lie that they’ve told us is that they are the sovereigns. Okay? Here, what I’m saying. They have told us over and over and over and over that they, the government, and of course, the people that will operate the government are the sovereigns. That’s what they’ve told us over and over and over.</p>
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<p>And so what does that do to the mindset of all the people? It makes them believe, obviously, it makes them believe that they don’t own anything, that they are serfs, I guess, if you want to call it that.</p>
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<p>But the truth is, Donald Trump has said this several times. And I guess it goes in one ear and out the other. But he said many times:</p>
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<p>And that is absolutely, 100% correct!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Yeah, I guess in terms of thinking that we are governed, who has the right to govern us. That’s what you’re saying, right? In effect.</p>
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<p><strong>Ed:</strong> Right!</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Oscar, do you want to comment on that? Because we only have a little bit of time left, and I’d like to give you the chance to comment on that, Oscar.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Well, that’s a very good point, because most people, you know, look to government to solve all our problems, and they’re the ones creating all the problems. So it’s, again, it’s kind of an upside down situation. We have to stop being so dependent on the government. But the government, that’s one of the things they do is they want to make us more and more dependent on the government. You know, they want to bring in Universal Basic Income and all that stuff.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Very communist. So we only have a minute left, and I would just like to thank you so much for coming on, Oscar. That was really, really interesting. I enjoyed it a lot.</p>
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<p>I also want to tell the listener that next week, Blackbird9 is going to be taking my spot. This was a commitment I had even before I took on this show. So he’s going to be gracious enough to extend his Snack Shack to 2 hours. So I will see you all in two weeks from now. But thank you, Oscar!</p>
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<p>And if you want to have a last word, you have about a half a minute. And thank you also to Ed and the other callers for calling in. Thank you. Go ahead, Oscar.</p>
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<p><strong>Oscar:</strong> Okay, Monika. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I would just say that from what we’ve seen, especially with Covid, don’t comply with the next fake agenda that they try and push on us. You know, don’t comply with digital ID, digital currency, don’t comply with bird flu, or don’t comply with anything to do with the Green New Deal. Vote with your dollar. It’s much more effective than your vote at the ballot box.</p>
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<p><strong>Monika Schaefer:</strong> Thank you. Those are really good last words. Thank you so much! Okay, bye for now!</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The White Australia Policy</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> with Matthew Grant</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Joel Davis continues here in a second interview with a fascinating talk with Matt Grant, the founder of the current Australian Natives Association, about the history of nationalism in Australia and the creation of the White Australia Policy. The policy was spurred on by the huge influx of Chinese during the 1800s gold rush periods.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>We believe in the principle of a White Australia, both on economic, cultural and social grounds.</em>”</span></p>
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Matt and I do a deep dive into the rise and fall of the White Australia Policy.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h1>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">White Australia Special</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Understanding Australia&#8217;s White Australia Policy</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Racial Conflict in Australia with Chinese and Others</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Fight for a White Australia &#8211; the Shearers Strike</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Case for a Single, Unified Border and Federation</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Should Australians Fight in the Second World War?</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Jewish Invasion in Australia Post WWII</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">White Australia and the Jews</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Origins of Australian Multiculturalism</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Returning to White Australia &#8211; Multiculturalism is Rejection of National Identity</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">White Australia in 2023 &#8211; Bringing Back White Identity Politics to Australia</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">The Issue of Racial and Cultural Difference</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">What&#8217;s the Essential Inheritance of the Australian Policy?</span></h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Joel and Blair Show</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Welcome to a special. I am joined by Matthew Grant of the Australian Natives Association once again.</p>
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<p>And today we are going to do a deep dive into the White Australia Policy, the history, the context, the ideological and political aspects of it and do a broad overview of its history, why it came into being, what its precursors were, what were the forces that ripped it apart? What were the forces that opposed it all along? And reflect upon it from the position of contemporary Australian politics and the current national situation.</p>
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<p>Welcome Matthew to the channel. It’s a pleasure to have you.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, thanks, Joel. Thanks for having me on again. It’s good to be back and honestly, it’s been a bit long since we last had a bit of a catch up, which is a bit of a shame. But, yeah, I suffer from the same disease as many other men in the ANA. We’re all very busy men, we all have careers and families and study commitments and all the rest of it, so time is a bit of a challenge.</p>
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<p>Before we get into it, I’m obliged to give a couple of disclaimers to align with our media policy in the ANA. So, firstly, the views expressed here are my own and not necessarily those of the ANA.</p>
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<p>And secondly, I do not exercise any control over the channel and that my appearance as a guest shouldn’t be taken as an endorsement, necessarily of any published material on the channel.</p>
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<p>But, yeah, you’ve opened up, right.</p>
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<p>I mean, the question of the White Australia Policy, which rotates around the Immigration Restriction Act is a huge subject. We couldn’t even do justice to it in this single podcast. There’s a litany of literature and even oral history which builds on this subject which is so crucial and so fundamental to our country.</p>
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<p>One famous Australian Parliamentarian said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“That in Australia, White Australia is not a mere policy, it is a religion.”</span></h3>
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<p>This concept of a White nation, a beacon of civilisation in the southern hemisphere, in the Pacific, really does go down to the heart of what Australia is, what Australia’s political and cultural destiny and ambition and idealism really was. So a noble subject to explore.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s so important if you are a nationalist or if you are an identitarian, someone who listens to this channel. If you’re an Australian, you need to know your history of your own country, obviously. And a lot of these facts and elements in Australian history, there’s unfortunately a lack of knowledge. People have a very contemporary outlook on politics. They’re broadly aware of current events and global events, but the historical knowledge is lacking because this isn’t something that they teach you in school, for obvious reasons. They don’t want you to have a national historical consciousness, they don’t want you to be proud of your ancestors and of your history and understand who you are. Because if you did, then you’d probably want the White Australia Policy back and you’d probably become a White nationalist of some description.</p>
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<p>We now live under a society in which that makes you persona non-grata, where the state declares this to be an extremist ideology, even though we’ve only had 31 prime ministers in Australia’s history. And I think it would be fair to say the first 16 up to Robert Menzies could be described as White nationalists.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:32]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So if you are a White nationalist, you have the majority view. If we went to heaven and we got together all the previous Australian prime ministers and all the current living ones and we sat them in a room, we would be, in the majority opinion, alongside all of our nation’s founders, all of the great men of the first half of our nation’s history.</p>
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<p>Yet somehow this is now totally marginalised as an extreme fringe radical ideology, which is only possible due to the lack of historical consciousness in our nation.</p>
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<p>Also, for foreign viewers, I think it’s a really instructive tale because obviously the White race is under attack globally and there are a lot of lessons in Australia’s history that you can take on for your respective national histories. Australia is perhaps the most explicit White nationalist project of any country in the world.</p>
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<p>So I think for the future, for our people and for this idea of a global racial consciousness and so on, Australia really is a potent example of racial identitarianism.</p>
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<p>So with that, let’s get into some of the history. And I think the logical place for us to start here is the Gold Rush of the mid 19th century. Because the Gold Rush, from the beginning to the end of the Gold Rush, our national population more than tripled. People were pouring in from all over the world to try and get a run at some of that gold, obviously, because if you strike gold, that’s your ticket out of an impoverished lifestyle, particularly at that time in history when people weren’t as well off as they are today.</p>
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<p>And obviously the majority of the people who came to Australia, to try and take advantage of the Gold Rush were Europeans. But you also had Chinese pouring in and people of other races pouring in this was really the foundation of the racial clash.</p>
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<p>Obviously, we had the experience of the Aboriginals and so on, but this was really the origin of dealing with non-White immigration in Australia and the formation of a racial politics in the country.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, well, no worries. Well, one little contrarian thing for you is I actually did learn this in school, all the way through primary school and high school, which wasn’t too long ago. This was actually a not unreasonable size of our curriculum. The question of the Gold Rush. The question of White Australia.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:55]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So I guess I’ve been disproportionately blessed when compared to a lot of other people I’ve met around Australia who never really touched on much of this history. I was very fortunate to get a first bite of it in my schooling. Obviously, it was all tinged with this kind of negative accusations that the White Australia Policy was kind of premised on bigotry and an unreasonable hatred of foreigners.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But just to address that really quickly before I touch on the Gold Rush. Even at the time of the Gold Rush, this was a very simple question that White European descent miners in the country of New South Wales and Victoria were being quite literally overrun and outnumbered, displaced by Chinese migrants. You can’t blame the Chinese migrants escaping from the poverty of their own home country to come and try find their fortunes here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Miners-at-Fairleys-Creek-Buckland-Valley-gold_mine.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35623" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Miners-at-Fairleys-Creek-Buckland-Valley-gold_mine.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="402" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Miners at Miners at Fairleys Creek, Buckland Valley gold mines]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one particular area called Buckland River*, there was a gold mining settlement there which was quite large, and it homed around, 2,000 Chinese settlers and 500 European descent settlers. Buckland River actually descended into a violent riot on the 4th of July where the local miners had thrown all the Chinese out of the town.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* During the Victorian gold rush of the 1850s the Buckland Valley was home to several thousand Chinese miners. On 4 July 1857, following a meeting at a Buckland Valley public house, approximately 100 European miners violently expelled most Chinese miners from the area in an event referred to as the Buckland Riot. The Buckland River was rich in alluvial gold and was dredged extensively in the 19th century. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>According to history, the Chinese had started building their own temple to their own pagan foreign gods. And this very deeply begrieved the Europeans there because they hadn’t even managed to build themselves a church yet.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when news of this new temple got around, the people were absolutely outraged and began an act of overwhelming kind of coercion. There was some violence, there was some injuries, but principally, they just told all these Chinese people to pack their bags, and they all left. They were force marched out of the town and then they burnt down all the Chinese buildings and occupations, so it was deserted after that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the Gold Rush was a tremendous period in history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this was before Federation, this is before Australia had a single united federal border. You had the colonies of Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland and South Australia. Queensland and South Australia had wide open borders. They had no racial policies, no interest in having a strongly enforceable border. And that as well, they actually really struggled to have an enforceable border just due to the sheer scale of the borders. A lot of boats could land in those colonies without much impedance and people could travel overland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In New South Wales and in Victoria in 1861 is really when the racial struggle began kicking off. And that was in Young in New South Wales, which formerly then was known as Lambing Flat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In that time, you had all these Chinese migrants, principally coming into the gold fields. They were making all the best findings. They were washing their dirty clothes and sluicing and dirtying the rivers so Europeans couldn’t drink the clean water. There was a lot of cultural, I suppose, anxiety of the scale of the Chinese migration.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:39]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there was, in fact, just the basic incompatibility of the two cultures. And in Young, it was in February, 1861, that they basically had another kind of like the Buckland River event, they had another violent episode. This one was particularly more violent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/220px-LambingFlatRollUpBanner_reworked.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35624" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/220px-LambingFlatRollUpBanner_reworked.jpg" alt="" width="220" height="226" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: The Roll Up Banner with which a mob of 2,000–3,000 men rallied and attacked Chinese miners at Lambing Flat in June 1861. The banner is displayed in Lambing Flat, now known as Young.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, I think the Chinese put up a bit more of a fight, which resulted in some deaths and some injuries. The founder of the Labour Party and the Australian Workers Union, William Spence, wrote in his book Australia’s Awakening that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“They drove the Chinese off the field, some of the pig tailed heathens losing their lives!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was quite a violent episode, which resulted in the police trying to arrest a great number of the European rioters or instigators of this kind of rebellion. In response to that, the rioters burnt down the police station and the police narrowly escaped with their lives and had to charge to the nearest station at the barracks in Goulburn, which was quite a distance away from Young.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was a very heated, a very spectacular event in Young which really demonstrated the anger, but also the willpower and the will of these miners to maintain these kind of higher standards on the gold fields which had been subverted by these cheap Chinese migrants.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I think many commentators view this as the origin point, essentially, of White nationalism in Australia, or nationalism, I mean, calling it “<em>White nationalism</em>” is somewhat reductive in the sense that the term nationalism doesn’t really make any sense without reference to a people of shared ancestry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So obviously, that has racial connotations. And in English, back at that time, the term “<em>nation</em>” and the term “<em>race</em>” would have been used interchangeably by most people, unlike conventions in the contemporary era. So they would not have really been able to understand nationalism as anything but, quote, unquote, “<em>White nationalism</em>”. They would not be able to conceive of a different kind of nationalism in those days, and we really shouldn’t be able to today either, except for the abuse that has been done to our language.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you have these acts passed in the mid 1850s, I think 1855, in Victoria 1861, in New South Wales to restrict the influx of Chinese immigration, obviously in response to this general unrest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at that time, obviously, these are all colonies of the British Empire, and the British government and its representatives weren’t exactly enthused. Britain’s then colonial secretary in 1861, when the New South Wales Parliament did pass these laws, Lord Carnarvon, he was not pleased. He stated that, quote:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That exceptional legislation intended to exclude from any part of Her Majesty’s dominions the subjects of the state at peace with Her Majesty is highly objectionable in principle.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the pressure was put on after the Chinese stopped flowing in to rescind the laws, and they were, they were actually repealed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So from this very early origin, there was, from the British imperial influence, resistance to this organic movement of Australian nationalism in the general population. They were willing to make concessions to it, obviously, to maintain order and political stability, but they weren’t exactly supportive.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[13:26]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that was a trend that you see continually from then onwards. Because from the British perspective, Australia wasn’t genuinely a nation. There was the British race, many of whom just happened to be in colonial Australia. And Australia was an economic zone as far as they were concerned. And they were more interested in protecting the interest of wealthy industrialists and other capitalist interests who benefited from importing cheap non-White labour into the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1876, the Queensland Parliament passed a Bill to amend the Goldfields Act, which would basically put a higher licensing fee upon Asians in order to discourage them from coming into Australia as well and encourage them to go home. The ones that were already there. And the British appointed governor of Queensland reserved the bill, prevented it from being passed and sent it to the British government. They didn’t approve it and the Bill didn’t become law.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they’re already intervening here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is important in understanding the context leading up to Federation and so on and the emergence of the Australian labour movement and this perception that capitalist interests and British imperial interests were the main enemies basically of Australian nationalism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, it’s exactly right! I guess, Australia was to them just an economic zone. It was a place where you could raise sheep, wheat and sugar cane, make good money and go take your money back home to England and have a good time. Charles Pearson writes in National Life and Character in 1893:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“The fear of Chinese immigration, which the Australian democracy cherishes and which the Englishmen at home find hard to understand, is in fact the instinct of self preservation. Quickened by experience, we know that coloured and White labour cannot exist side by side. We are well aware that China can swamp us with a single year’s surplus of population. And we know that if national existence is sacrificed to the working of a few mines and sugar plantations, it’s not the Englishmen in Australia alone, but the whole civilised world that will be the losers.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In a similar stead Teddy Roosevelt, the American President did a review of Pearson’s work and he also formed the view that not only the United States, but Australia were both subject to international finance oligarchs that these English, usually residing in England, persons of financial means, were using our countries to make money. And slavery in the south of the United States was a product of that process.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-35625" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes-1024x651.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="407" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes-1024x651.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes-600x381.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes-768x488.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Port-Phillip-Gold-Mining-Companys-claim-and-the-township-of-Clunes.jpg 1227w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: The Port Phillip Gold Mining Company’s claim and  the township of Clunes]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the same way, in Australia, the importation of Chinese was used heavily. So back in the 19th century there was a lot of cases like that. So one instance in the town of Clunes in Victoria, there was a gold mine there that was making money. There was no issues. It was a commercially viable operation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[16:36]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, the shareholders decided that they wanted to pay less for labour and so they actually brought in three or four horse carriages full of Chinese labourers and intended to sack all of the Australian and European descent miners from the gold mine. And this town of Clunes the entire town, men, women and children physically mobilised themselves with weapons and blockaded the roads coming into the town.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the horses that were drawing these Chinese scabs, as we would call them, non-unionised labourers, these Chinese scabs were stopped on the road, and they had actually police escort as well. It’s a famous story I always make reference to because the policeman bore his rifle and pointed it at a woman, and the woman picked up a rock and was about to throw it at the policeman and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I’d rather be shot than starved!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this was the dire situation that these people in Victoria and people in towns and regions all around Australia faced, that they were looking down the barrel of being completely replaced by Chinese scab labourers who would work for a bowl of rice a day. And would not work at European standards of work. They wouldn’t work for a fair rate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this actually manifested in a whole bunch of events. I won’t get into the full detail of all of them. But similar situation in 1878, you had the maritime strike, where basically a large Australasian steam navigation company sacked all of their White sailors and replaced them with Chinese sailors, which resulted in other riots and a strike which were successful. Thank heavens.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There was also the black legging for Polynesian labourers in Queensland for sugarcane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A lot of people in that time were convinced that White men of European stock could not settle the tropics. I mean, Marcus Clark, Charles Pearson, Teddy Roosevelt, they all kind of subscribe to this concept that warm climates are unsuitable for people of northern European stock.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Australasian-13-March-1897-p.-4-advertisement-indicating-‘European-Labour-made-furniture.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35626" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Australasian-13-March-1897-p.-4-advertisement-indicating-‘European-Labour-made-furniture.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="824" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Australasian-13-March-1897-p.-4-advertisement-indicating-‘European-Labour-made-furniture.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Australasian-13-March-1897-p.-4-advertisement-indicating-‘European-Labour-made-furniture-600x594.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/The-Australasian-13-March-1897-p.-4-advertisement-indicating-‘European-Labour-made-furniture-768x760.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: <a style="color: #008000;" href="http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article196839075" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Australasian</a>, 13 March, 1897, p. 4, advertisement indicating ‘European Labour’ made furniture.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they were bringing in Polynesian labourers to Queensland. During the same time as the gold rush, unsuccessful Chinese miners who didn’t find any goods on the gold fields ended up taking over the Victorian manufacturing industries, primarily in furniture. So you had lots of backyard furniture factories that were sweating 70 hours week, undercutting the wages and conditions of Australian labourers in factories in Victoria. Which actually resulted in a few riots and some legislation which required all furniture be stamped if it was made by European or Chinese labourers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all of this kicking off around the 1860s, 1870s, finally culminated in the Great Shearers Strike in 1891. So William Spence, the founder of the Labour Party, says in his book Australia’s Awakening:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“When they were going to fill White men’s places with Chinese and further insisted on freedom of contract, which means non-unionised agreements, shearers and shed hands had no alternative but to go on strike.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So 1891 saw probably the largest industrial action in Australian history, resulting in the army having to be mobilised because there was actual fears of a genuine civil war and a revolutionary army of thousands of shearers armed with rifles taking over the colony of Queensland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:38]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there was a lot of stuff going on, just after the gold rush and during the gold rush, which was really testing multiculturalism, the earliest form of it. I mean, principally dealing with Chinese migrants. But it was very clear across the board that this was detrimental to the national health. There was a lot of labour struggle against it. But there was also liberal thinkers who were uninvolved with the Labour movement that were staunchly in favour of this principle of a White Australia. Henry Parks was probably one of the first of those leading men.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in the Inter-Colonial Conference of 1888, a lot of colonial Parliamentarians had come together to meet and they all agreed that the further introduction of Chinese to Australia was going to be detrimental to the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as you rightfully said, they all tried to legislate to this end and the Crown refused to give royal assent to them because they, at the time, had colonised India. They had millions and millions and millions of Indians that were technically British subjects. The Englishmen at home didn’t understand the importance of these racial issues because they’d never experienced it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so they, withheld this legislation, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The original NIMBY* shit-libs!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The phrase “<em>not in my backyard,</em>” shortened to “<em>NIMBY,</em>” seems to have appeared first in the mid-1970s. It was used in the context of the last major effort by electric utilities to construct nuclear-powered generating stations, especially those located in Seabrook, New Hampshire, and Midland, Michigan. Source: Britannica]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, exactly! Just had no idea. Yeah. I mean, Henry Higgins, the High Court Justice and Parliamentarian, said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“The principle of a White Australia really came about when people had to rub shoulders with foreign labour and compete with them.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the rich people, the people in the agricultural societies and chambers of commerce, they don’t understand because they’ve never had to compete with them. And even better, they profiteer off scab cheap labour from overseas.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s a fascinating bit of history. I mean, it caused a lot of violence, a lot of grief, a lot of people were displaced, a lot of people lost their work and employment. But it also created this national psyche. It forced these people of different European descent and even inter-British cultures, Irish and Welsh and English and Scots. All these people had to unify under a single concept of a White Australia that’s a European descent, Australian ethnic identity, which would repel these cheap foreign invaders.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>JF Archibald, the publisher of The Bulletin, the old newspaper, he’s attributed to saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“By the term ‘Australian’, we mean not just those who are merely born in Australia, but all White men who come to these shores with a clean record and who leave behind them the memory of class distinction and religious difference in the Old World, all men who place the happiness of their adopted lands before imperialism are Australian.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you saw this ethno-genesis kicking off around the same time of all these struggles against Chinese labour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:07]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, and obviously that is so relevant I think in our time, it’s only become more relevant, that concept. I mean, it wasn’t just the economic struggles, although we have to remember that it’s not like today where the idea of having to compete with foreign labour is annoying, but there’s so many safety nets and comforts in modern society. I mean, it was a life or death matter in those days to find gainful employment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There was no Social Security systems established. You really were on your own either as an individual, as part of a community. But there wasn’t this big state bureaucracy, there wasn’t all of this modern social architecture,</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> No Fair Work Commission.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, there are two components. You got the more kind of trade Unionist types who you mentioned William Spence, who is one of the major trade Unionist figures in this late 19th century Australian nationalism and went on to be influential after federation as well. And quote from him to get a feel for their politics. He’s saying this, by the way, while conceding that, yeah, there are some liberal conservative elements in Australian politics that also did politically support the White Australia Policy. But his stance is:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That the anti-socialist is invariably (as I quote) the most unpatriotic person to be found. He belongs to the Stinking Fish Party. If he cannot get his own stupid way, he denounces the country in which he has done so well. The bedrock of the cry for a colour line across the continent so that anti-socialists could boss N-words and yellow men is found in the anti-socialist nature. He is a born tyrant and as the White Australian will not stand his tyranny, he must have a N-word to order about. There is no patriotism in the anti-socialist press, hence it barracks for anything the capitalist crowd asked for.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there was this, obviously from the Labourerists, this keen sense of class warfare and a very racial concept of trade unionism, as you mentioned.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This idea that there’s something about being a Whiteman was having this collective mentality. And people often flip that these days and talk about how to be a Whiteman is to be individualistic and that all the other races are more collectivist than us. But they had this inverse perception that it was actually the Whiteman who had this inherent virtue that “<em>all for one and one for all</em>” was their kind of principle and as opposed to the pursuit of individual advantage, this kind of rejection of bourgeois morality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was a strong component. Obviously, the Australian Labour Party was formed out of that worldview and that tendency.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:36]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But at the same time you also had more liberal nationalist elements like HP Higgins, who went on to become Attorney General and was massively influential in the early politics of Federal Australia and the formation of the White Australia Policy. A staunch advocate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You have Alfred Deacon, Australia’s second Prime Minister, one of the most influential prime ministers in Australian history. Really set the tone for the early phase of Australian politics, the so-called Australian Settlement. Alfred Deacon, in his maiden speech to Parliament, declared:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Australia to be an Aryan Christian nation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>His racial Unitarianism and his religious faith were really front and centre of his political project. They were the Protectionist Party. So they opposed themselves to the pro-British Empire free traders. They aligned themselves with colonial White Australians and their interests, but they weren’t so much trade Unionists. Instead they had this liberal, democratic conception of nationalism. But nevertheless they were also integral in the formation of White Australia. But we’re going to get into the story of Federation now. I’ll turn it back to you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But once Federation forms, the Labour Party comes to be really the front and centre advocates of the White Australia Policy. But you do have a lot of these other more centrist national elements that are also supportive. But maybe to turn it back to you on the logic in Federation and the forces that pushed for it. Because Australia didn’t have what the Americans had, a revolution and Republicanism. Maybe in retrospect, maybe we should have, considering we ultimately haven’t protected White Australia and White Australia was being ripped away from us. But at the time, what were the kind of practical considerations?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously there was a logic of entering into an agreement with the Empire where the Empire would make concessions and allow us essentially to have our White nationalist thing, but still conciliatory in many respects to British business interests and imperial interests, foreign policy interests and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there was a tension there. Was that because we felt we didn’t have the capacity to stage a revolution? Or was there a sense of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, there’s benevolence and that we can do this in a clean political way?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also at the time, you have the context of Charles Henry Pearson, his conception, which you alluded to before, of the Whiteman under siege:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“That the world wasn’t destined to be ruled by these White, globe spanning empires forever. But that this was an aberration in history and that the vitality of the Anglo Saxon race and some of the other European races was limited and would burn itself out in cosmopolitanism and so on and declining birth rates. And the yellow races and other races would rise and they would become peers on the international stage and take their countries back from colonial domination.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[29:17]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He was obviously quite prescient with that because that’s literally how the 20th century played out. And he feared forces of misgegenation would be existential for the White race, and that therefore an explicit politics of racial preservation and explicit White nationalism was necessary because he had that, as you mentioned, this view that the Whiteman really only belonged in the temperate zones and that living in northern Queensland would be a problem. He didn’t predict that we could adapt to those environments, which obviously kind of seems silly now to a certain extent. But nevertheless, the view was well, in Australia and in North America, we have these temperate zones where the Whiteman can set up states that have the explicit goal of racial self preservation to secure a future for our people and way of life despite changing global conditions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s important to recognise as well that the White Australia Policy wasn’t just based in some kind of contemptuous hatred for other races, but was based in an existential requirement, a struggle from the very beginning. Whether you’re talking about the early Australian labour movement or talking about nationalist intellectuals and political figures and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They were big picture people and they obviously were very happy with White culture and the White way of life and wanted to preserve it. But they didn’t necessarily have this seething hatred or even this will to dominate other races, but actually they wanted separation for the preservation of our way of life down the generations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so this is actually the opposite of a supremacist worldview, it’s a separatist worldview and it’s a worldview that actually gave respect to these foreign races by saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we don’t actually anticipate our capacity to dominate you is going to be successful or even desirable. Instead, we recognise that we can’t dominate the world entirely and that we need ethno-states or racial states in certain pockets of the world.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>With all of that context, what’s your impression of the key forces leading up to Federation? Why we went for a conciliatory approach to the British Empire? Was it just through sentimental attachment to the mother country and the fact that we were ultimately sons of the British Isles, or was there more to the story than that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:16]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yep, I guess starting off moving towards Federation. So you had Henry Parks. He was our main man in New South Wales, a Parliamentarian. And to touch on that subject of racial bigotry, I agree, the White Australia Policy was absolutely never premised on this concept that we just hate everyone else and therefore we don’t want to let them in. There was serious qualities to the idea of the policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Henry Parks, in his second reading of the Chinese Restriction Bill in the New South Wales Colonial Parliament, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“They are not an inferior race, they are a superior set of people, a nation of old and deep rooted civilisation. It is because I believe the Chinese to be a powerful race, capable of taking a great hold upon this country, and because I want to preserve the type of my own nation, I am and always have been opposed to the influx of Chinese. I contend that if this young nation is to maintain the fabric of its liberties unassailed and unimpaired, it cannot admit into its population any element that of necessity must be of an inferior nature and character. In other words, I’ve maintained at all times that we should not encounter or admit amongst us any class of persons whatever, whom we are not prepared to advance to all our franchises.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So basically, Henry Parks, he was a great thinker of his time. He was known as the “<em>Father of Federation</em>”. He was the one who made Federation very politically popular. He campaigned on the issue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So New South Wales had at this time managed to introduce a poll tax. So if you were Chinese and you were getting off a ship in Sydney Harbour, there’d be a quite heavy financial cost to you getting off the boat. You were allowed in, but it would come at a cost. Queensland and South Australia did not have this. And at the time they were basically skipping the poll tax by landing in Queensland and South Australia and walking across the border.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we had this issue where Victoria and New South Wales, who were trying to protect their ethnic homogeneity, were being swamped by Chinese migrants through Queensland and South Australia. So it became increasingly evident that there needed to be a single, unified national border Australia and the Pacific Ocean, and that every colony in the continent should be part of this one single nation which has a single immigration policy and a single controllable border. This was a big area of the Australian Natives Association platform as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the ANA was started in 1871 and it was in favour of the native born European descent people of Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as part of that, it was a staunch advocate of a White Australia and of Federation. Because they saw that getting that single, unified border is going to be the thing that prevents us from becoming another melting pot like had been seen in the United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The honourable King O’Malley, who became the minister for home affairs in one of the early Australian Parliaments, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“If the Australian people had only lived in the southern states of America, as I have, and had seen the dire results of the present mingling of the Africans with the Whites, they would put their feet down and say, ‘We are not going to leave such an unholy problem behind for future generations to solve’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the same vein, Jack Beasley, who was a New South Wales Parliamentarian in the 1920s, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“It’s possible to live on the highest terms of mutual respect with one’s neighbour, whilst recognizing that it would be destructive of all harmony to invite him to become a permanent resident in one’s household.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you had these ideas. We Australians of European stock, we are in the Pacific, we have Asian neighbours, we should be friends with them, but at the same time we should recognise it would be destructive of all harmony. These people don’t share the same heritage as us. They did not adopt Magna Carta, they did not adopt the Act of Settlement, they did not adopt Roman law, Roman principles of equity and justice. They are completely alien to us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we talk about White nationalism and why it’s important to be White. And I think one of the great reasons for that is because we are actually related by blood to the people who died for these high principles of civilisation, which we hold very dear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these Asian migrants, as Henry Parks was saying, they have alien concepts to us. They are not going to develop the same brand of civilisation which we hold so dear. They have their own ways, and their own ways are definitely noble to them and something that they would venerate. But to us, we have a higher calling based on our own heritage and based on our own concepts of civilisation and justice and equity and all the rest of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the march towards Federation was really for that single, unified border. James Stewart said in 1901, and this is during the debates on the Immigration Restriction Act:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We do not desire to keep out those coloured people simply because they’re inferior to us, but because for racial, social, and economic reasons, we cannot permit them safely to enter. With regards to race, we cannot mix with them. There is no natural affinity between them and us. And if an attempt were made to confide them and us in one bottle, so to speak, one or the other must be precipitated to the bottom. A compacted, homogeneous community cannot be formed out of such heterogeneous compounds. The thing ought not to be attempted because it is absolutely impossible!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“With regards to the social aspect of the question, these people are brought up under institutions entirely different from ours. Their religion, position and customs are different. I should be a traitor to my country, to my race, and to those of our ancestors who have conferred benefits upon us. If I were a party to anything which would allow these Asiatics to come here and destroy in one fell swoop all the efforts of centuries. For these reasons, I think we are all agreed that the coloured man must be kept out, whether he is a Japanese, a Chinaman, or an African.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think in general, ideological terms, aside from the Labour issues of wages and unionism, the intellectual concept was that White people of European descent, are in fact inheritors of political and social and cultural institutions, dating all the way back through from Rome up to now, that were noble, that needed to be defended, and would be absolutely destroyed by an influx of foreigners.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As it said, that Chinese could take this country with a single year’s surplus population. I think all of the founders understood and realised that a non-European descent majority in Australia would mean a death of all the legal and political institutions which we hold so dear and we think are crucial to our civilisation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[38:53]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, how this relates to the British Empire? As I said previously, the British Empire at the time had millions of people in India. Before Federation Natal had attempted to – this is in South Africa – the Natal colony attempted to have an explicit racial immigration policy. They wanted to preserve Natal for people of European stock, and the British refused to give them royal assent in similar ways that they refused us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But at the same time, Australia was very low in population. It didn’t have great industries and military resources at its disposal. A lot of the early Parliamentarians and people pushing for Federation understood that the protection of the British fleet, the British Navy, was what’s going to allow us to have a White Australia, that the millions of desperate Asians to our north would not be able to be repelled by an Australian independent army.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So even those with Republican sympathies in the Labour Party all acknowledged that the defense of Australia really relied on the British Navy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we had to keep our ties to Britain quite neat and tidy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, there’s definitely the ethnic solidarity thing as well, I mean, we were being constantly populated by first generation British migrants who did feel an affinity with the United Kingdom and felt that that was home. I mean, it is also our heritage. I mean we are predominantly of British extraction in Australia, and I think people feel, the practical side of it. We needed the British Navy, but also the cultural side of it that we felt ourselves of European British extraction particularly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think a lot of people hadn’t come to grips with how badly the British Parliament and the Crown had really betrayed our interests in terms of an immigration platform.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as Dr. William Maloney said in 1912, this is before World War I kicks off:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“If England were to go down, the result would be disastrous to Anglo-Celtic Saxon race the whole world over. We should be rendered helpless against one of the greatest fighting nations the world has ever known. I shall never utter a word derogatory of the Japanese as a nation, but what could we do unaided against such a nation?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So at Federation time, there was the acknowledgment. We finally had the ability to make our own laws. The Crown could withdraw Royal Assent and that was a real threat. So even at the time of the Immigration Restriction Act, even though a lot of Parliamentarians wanted an explicit racial law, and that’s constitutional under Section 51 of the Constitution, there was still a great fear that the Crown wouldn’t give it royal assent and therefore it wouldn’t become law for fear of offending all of the Indians in the Empire.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, there was a very kind of vexed issue, but it’s multi pronged, definitely, the practical consideration. We need the British Navy to defend a White Australia and we also feel a cultural and heritage affinity with it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a lot of people were genuinely loyal to the Crown. So those are, I suppose, the main considerations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:19]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It is, I think, important, though, to recognise that pretty much all factions at the time bar, very few, were committed to White Australia. And that was really the guiding principle, this principle that we need to preserve our people and our race on this continent and make this the Whiteman’s continent, was a prevailing bipartisan stance. And the debate was how do we go about that best.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The defense of Australia, the geopolitical angle obviously is vital and that obviously plays a massive role in first half of the 20th century as we go to two wars for the British Empire.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, I think people don’t really realise now that at the time of Federation we didn’t truly become an independent nation state and not just in the basic sense that it is now where obviously we still share a head of state with the United Kingdom. But Australia was originally still defined as a colony, it was defined as a “<em>self governing colony</em>” according to the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act, which was an act in British Parliament.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>From the British standpoint, they were happy to go along with it because it improved the ease of administration that they just had this one central Australian government to deal with, rather than all of these separate colonies to liaise with. But ultimately the British government still had oversight over the Australian Constitution, which they did interfere with after it was approved by an Australian referendum. And most of their interventions were either to serve their foreign policy interests.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you have the alliance with Japan that was brokered in 1904, which really perturbed us because the Japanese were seen as our main national security threat in our region, yet the British were getting in bed with them because they feared the rise of the Germans. The unified Germany became their obviously direct rival in Europe and so they didn’t want to commit as many forces to maintaining their position in the Asia Pacific region.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the solution to that was to make an alliance with the most powerful rising power in the region, which at the time was the Japanese, fresh off defeating the Russians in a war, and defeating the Chinese and they had all these expansionist aims and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Obviously we saw how that ended up playing out in the Second World War where we ultimately had to confront them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[44:25]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But not only was the foreign policy of the United Kingdom and this Britain centric foreign policy that they had where Australia wasn’t seen as a partner so much as a colony for the first few decades of our existence, but know you had all these wealthy British capitalists, many of them of jewish extraction, who were based out of the City of London, who had extensive investments in Australia. And those investments often also provided them with an interest in coloured immigration. So that produced also a tension. But primarily it was the foreign policy of the British. They didn’t want to anger the Japanese. The Japanese were not fans of Australia having explicit racialist laws on the books preventing the immigration of all non-White races.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the advisement that was given by the British government was that we do a dictation test. So instead of having an explicit law there were many elements in the Labour Party, I think the entire Labour Party actually at the time and many other elements in the Australian government or the Australian political establishment, who wanted an explicit racial law about who can come to Australia, who can become a citizen, who can enter the country. They even wanted to put it into the Constitution, many of them, but that was declined.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And instead they were advised to have a dictation test where basically, if someone tried to immigrate to Australia who was seen as undesirable, which basically meant that they weren’t White, they probably also did it to many Slavic and Mediterranean types, because at that time they had a very Anglo conception of who we were. And maybe they were more amenable to some German immigrants or some Scandinavian immigrants, but generally speaking, they weren’t huge fans of jewish immigrants, they weren’t huge fans of Italian immigrants or Polish immigrants or anything like that, even. But basically, they had a dictation test which could be given in any arbitrary language they could choose from.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if they didn’t like someone, they could just give it to them in a language they knew they didn’t understand to ensure that they would fail.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was a kind of bureaucratic trickery where the White Australia Policy was enforced basically through bureaucratic processes, rather than through an explicit legal framework. And many people found that to be somewhat offensive to the Australian sensibility. We like to be direct and upfront. But the Japanese were not too happy about it. And so to maintain the alliance, that was what was necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you mentioned we get to the First World War. Obviously, Australia commit incredible forces. 60,000 Australians died fighting for the British Empire in the First World War, which was more than double the Australian deaths in the Second World War, I believe, just to give an idea of the scale. And we did that because we wanted a seat at the table in the Empire. We wanted to elevate our position in the Empire, to get more influence in the Empire, and so we wanted to prove ourselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:16]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the logic was, with the Australian political establishment, by going hard for the Empire and showing that you need us. When you actually go to war, you want the Australians there fighting on the battlefield, defending the Empire. And we wanted to earn our position through that. And it did succeed to the extent that Billy Hughes, the Nationalist Prime Minister at the time, was able to be a key figure at the Treaty of Versailles at the end of the war. And the Japanese, as an ally in the First World War, were angling for the introduction of a racial equality clause to be accepted by the League of Nations, whereby laws that were explicitly discriminatory on racial grounds be abolished. Billy Hughes fought against that tooth and nail and succeeded partially by spreading fear mongering propaganda around the legislation in the United States of America to create domestic pressure upon Woodrow Wilson, at the time the American President, to acquiesce. And so they did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was also interesting that at the time, we demanded Papua New Guinea from the Germans who had taken it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And interestingly, we actually had told the British before the Germans took New Guinea, that they were about to and that we wanted their support to defend it due to fears of having hostile powers on our doorstep. And the British told us not to worry about it and ultimately that it wasn’t their problem. We were right, the Germans took it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And another key factor into our participation, our extensive participation in the First World War, was the sense that if the Germans were to win, that perhaps Australia would be a bargaining chip to the British, that they would hand us over to the Germans in a wartime settlement and we would start taking German immigrants. Considering how things have played out historically, maybe that wouldn’t have been so bad! Maybe it would have been better if we had lost World War I <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> and were handed over to the Germans. White Australia would probably still exist today had that happened in that alternative timeline. But from the standpoint of that time, you can understand as proud Anglos why we didn’t want that eventuality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But nevertheless, due to these foreign policy concerns, which were very real, we were all the way with the Empire, obviously, up until the Second World War. Maybe the story of the Second World War would be better if I pass that one over to Grant.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Obviously we go hard to defend England. That way the British Navy isn’t knocked out of the universe, so we’re protected against Asia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Along comes World War II and the Japanese are pouring down through Asia. They’ve taken China, they’ve used Australian steel to do it. Thank you, Bob Menzies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they started marching towards Singapore, which is a great trading outpost of the British Empire at the time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, the British absolutely botched the defense of Singapore! And we had thousands and thousands and thousands of Australian soldiers posted there under British commanders.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And basically what happened was they had all their guns pointed out to the sea, out into the harbour, expecting a Japanese naval assault. But they landed themselves over thousands of bicycles and little wagons through the land access to the back of Singapore and began a siege of the city. Some Australian divisions valiantly held them back for a couple of days, but suddenly the Japanese were knocking on the door, and the British generals actually thought that urban combat was not gentlemanly and therefore immediately surrendered.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all of the British and Australian soldiers were force marched to POW camps and died in enormous numbers. I mean, just on the march alone, thousands and thousands of men were killed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they spent the rest of the war in concentration camps, where they were starved and tortured. And I’m sure everyone knows the story, but it was at that time, I think, Australia really came to the reckoning that the British were out of the game. They’d pull the plug on Asia and we were on our own.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So Bob Menzies tremendously lost the election. In comes John Curtin and the Labour Party, which mobilised the entire country immediately putting everyone on food rations and portioning, nationalizing industry, bringing online an Australian war machine to produce weapons and tanks and planes to defend Australia. Massive numbers of Australians were mobilised to fight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we were already in the war with the Germans over in Europe. And Australia had a lot of soldiers, a lot of assets over in North Africa. And immediately John Curtin makes the command:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We’re coming back.”</span></h3>
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<p>And the British Parliament and Winston Churchill were sulking and whinging:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You have to defend us! We’re going to get crushed by the krauts in Europe!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Curtin just said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No! We have to bring the soldiers back to Australia, to defend from Japan.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this really is reflective of the psyche of the British at the time:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“These colonials, they belong to us, they’re our pawn on the chessboard. We need to protect the UK from the krauts! Who cares what happens to this far off backwards colony?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But anyway, Curtin stood his ground. The Australians’ assets in Europe mobilised, got on a bunch of transport ships, and they were on the Pacific. And suddenly Winston Churchill gets on the foghorn to the captain and commands him to turn around and land all the troops in Ceylon to defend India from the Japanese invasion. Because Churchill and the British Parliamentarians and the other financial interests in Britain were more concerned about their financial interests in India being lost to the Japanese than actually the defense of Australia and the White European descent people in Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:11]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fortunately, through a couple of very powerfully worded cables from our Prime Minister, John Curtin, the commander of the ship did end up bringing Australia’s troops and assets back to Australia, to begin preparing for a defense in Papua New Guinea, which we’d freshly won from the Germans. Thanks to the great foresight of Billy Hughes, that Papua New Guinea would be the buffer zone between us and the foreseen Japanese opponent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, long before I read you that quote before about what would happen if England fell and know Japan is our greatest adversary in the Pacific. Australian Parliamentarians, generals, and all the rest of it, had been anticipating this war since around 1910, even earlier.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So everyone was thinking about it. And the occupation of Papua New Guinea was an excellent play to see the defense of Australia from the Japanese.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so the war proceeds.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, the war has its own history, I suppose. But the impact, the policy implications to the White Australia Policy. By the time we’ve won World War II, it was with the help of the United States and not with the United Kingdom. I mean, not only did the UK absolute scum born to rule generals, surrendered our soldiers in Singapore and led to thousands of needless deaths, then refused to relinquish our soldiers from the European campaign. Not only did they do those things to a great grievance to our country, even after all the sacrifice we gave them in World War I. Just absolutely no respect! After that it was recognised that the UK could not be relied upon for our national defense and that the United States was our new partner.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in addition to that, it really just created this great sense of anxiety. After the Japanese steel had separated many Australian heads from many shoulders and many nurses were kidnapped and sold into sex slavery or shot, Australia became even more anxious of Asia than it ever had.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it began to manifest in a different way at the end of the war. It was a lot of Parliamentarians were desperately trying to befriend and get on really good terms with Asiatics. And that really started the most formal way with the Colombo Plan, which was this concept of bringing in Asian students so that they could learn at our universities, become up-skilled, go back to their home countries, improve their home countries, so that the desperation of Asia stops looking over to Australia with its starvation in its eyes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But at the same time that they would be an appreciation that the Asiatics that returned home building their countries would come back from Australia with a favourable impression of Australia and would be pro-Australian.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the whole dynamic goes from isolation, having no friends in Asia, to we need to desperately have friends in Asia. And people started getting really self conscious about this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[56:34]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The way the White Australia Policy was marketed, I mean, the very name of it itself became a subject of great controversy because they didn’t want to offend all of our neighbours in Asia, for fear not only the economic issue of not having trading partners and places to export our goods and materials, but also for this fear of actually the geopolitical breakdown of peace in the Pacific.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I suppose that’s a general summary of what kicked off of World War II.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> It’s just so ridiculous! I mean, when have White people got offended at these Asian countries for restricting immigration from us? Like when have we complained that the Japanese don’t let White people immigrate there, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, that’s right, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> &#8230; In substantial numbers.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> I was just going to say quickly, that it’s a really funny question you ask that, because if you read the Parliamentary debates in 1955, when the Liberal government’s getting rid of the Immigration Restriction Act, one Parliamentarian who is like the Foreign Secretary who travelled all through Asia for some years said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“All the way going through Asia, the only people who ever brought up any questions or concerns about White Australia were, in fact White journalists that had followed him there to ask the question!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So yeah, I think it was very overestimated how much the concept of a White Australia offended Asia. I mean, obviously the Japs didn’t like it. But after they got zapped in World War II, I think they were amicable to it. But no one else really cared. It was really the self-conscious, this new generation of post-war, limp wristed kind of rat bags that ran the country, that were really self conscious about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> There was some push, some resistance from the Indians back during the imperial days. He put in some complaints about our immigration policy. This is going back to the very beginnings of the 20th century. The British advised them to maybe just withdraw that. I don’t think the Australians are going to let us destroy their immigration policy because the Indians are offended <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> and they didn’t want to provoke us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we’ve seen these days I mean, I’m jumping ahead a little bit, but unfortunately, these days it seems as though that is actually literally what is happening. Every time our wog prime minister meets with his Indian counterpart, he’s just opening up the borders more and more for the hordes to pour into the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But cycling back to the Second World War and the reaction. Obviously another key reaction to the Second World War was the concept of “<em>Populate or Perish</em>”. And that Australia, not only were we now partners with the United States, more primarily than the British, and that was a bit of a slower transition.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The US didn’t have the same imperial mentality that the English did. Obviously, even though we kind of perceived racial ties, they were trying to de-emphasise their racial identitarianism in the post-war era themselves, because they were trying to become these enlightened leaders of the liberal world order at the time and compete with communism. And they had this approach of combating communism from the Left, trying to prove to the coloured races of the world that in fact, it was the liberal world order that was truly anti-racist, even more so than the Communists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also with the legacy of the Second World War, the reconstruction of ideological legitimacy around the defeat of National Socialist Germany and all the implications that that had.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:00:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so even though the American people, in many respects, American grassroots nationalism was very much in line with the tendencies in White Australia. The American political elite who we actually had to deal with, they were moving, unfortunately, in this very anti-racialist direction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that was also a contributing factor to our elite trying to, in its mind, update itself to the new ideals of the new world. The new world in the sense of the postwar international order. But the “<em>populate or perish</em>” element was interesting because that idea was that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, we’re going to open the border, but just to other Europeans.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Where before we weren’t so keen on Italians and Greeks and Poles, now we’ll let them in because their countries have all been ruined by the Second World War. A lot of them are looking to get out and have a fresh life. Australia is a land of opportunity, cheap land, massive industrial projects are underway.</p>
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<p>And you can see why that was attractive to a lot of them to get out of the blown up Europe that was still gripped by now the Cold War and all the hostility that brought to come out to Australia and make a new life for themselves.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we have these massive waves of quote, unquote, “<em>wog migration</em>”. Also at this time, jews start pouring into Australia at a rate that hitherto hadn’t happened. There were some Anglo jewish elements that had come over prior to the Second World War, but they were in very small number and largely quite assimilated as far as jews go, and didn’t seem to cause too much problems.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, the jews that come over after the Second World War, a lot of them were Communist jews from Eastern Europe and they were bringing with them the ideologies and sensibilities of Central and Eastern European jewry and everything that went along with that at that time in history. So they became very active in the communist movement here, which obviously never really rose to considerable prominence in Australian society.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But nevertheless, it didn’t take them very long to infiltrate our government and start shipping off national secrets to the Soviet Union, which was the reason why we actually had to set up ASIO in the first place. Previously, we had such a high trust society that you could just trust your fellow Anglo Australian brothers to not betray your nation like that. But that started to change and we get this gradual undermining of the pre-war Australian identity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:02:18]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Also, I talked about this a little bit on the show with Blair, this article that I read in The Occidental Observer by Jason Cannon. A three part series called Jews in the Australian Dream, talking about how a lot of these jewish immigrants to Australia, they brought high rise living, they brought cosmopolitan, high density living to Australia that they were accustomed to in European cities where they came from. Previously, Australian society was quite hostile to high density city living.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, not many people really did live close in the actual city centre. You had, like, townhouses for the working class in the surrounding suburbs, but they weren’t high rises. You still had a little backyard, you could have a little family in there. The church was the largest building in the general vicinity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, all of a sudden, these high rise apartments are getting put in the postwar era, about 50% of the high rise apartments that were built in Sydney, and obviously this was mainly a Sydney and Melbourne thing, were built either by jewish architects or by development companies run by jews. And they were built basically in the jewish areas around King’s Cross, in Sydney, in Melbourne, around St Kilda and some of these areas. And that radically transformed Australian society because now you have this cosmopolitanism, you got like the boomer counterculture of the 1960s, the spread out, suburban, largely Christian, White Australian lifestyle was disintegrating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>During the 60s, there was a study done on church attendance, or youth group attendance, actually, in Brisbane. And at the beginning of the 1960s, something like 75% to 80% of young people attended their local church youth group. By the end of the 1960s, that number was down to only 30%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you see, youth culture fundamentally transform. The television comes in, the media landscape changes this new American led international order, English speaking culture gets Beamed into the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at the same time, there are all of these threats that you mentioned in the existential position that Australia found itself in. From a geopolitical standpoint, these are the conditions whereby we start seeing the gradual erosion of White Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But obviously, there is still specific actors in the political system who are responsible. So, Matthew, who do you fundamentally blame? Because John Curtin was a staunch advocate of White Australia, he took us through the Second World War. The quotations from the man, the speeches from the man. We know where he stood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Robert Menzes*, who got back the Prime Ministership afterwards, he is somewhat to blame, but he also nevertheless understood the importance of maintaining White Australia. Particularly for him, it was the Anglo-Celtic British identity aspect. But the floodgates didn’t exactly just open immediately after the Second World War. It was this very gradual process. And then really only the floodgates opened to foreign migration in the 70s.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Robert Menzies Australian politician, 12th Prime Minister of Australia (1894-1978) Sir Robert Gordon Menzies was an Australian politician and lawyer who served as the 12th prime minister of Australia from 1939 to 1941 and 1949 to 1966. He held office as the leader of the United Australia Party in his first term, and subsequently as the inaugural leader of the Liberal Party of Australia, which he was responsible for establishing and defining in policy and political outreach. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you could set it up play by play, who are the key actors responsible here?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:05:17]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, that’s right. Well, I’ll touch on the jews first because you had a bit to say about them. It’s actually really fascinating!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m not sure if you’ve ever read, I mean, as much as I hate the man Churchill, if you’ve ever read Zionism versus Bolshevism, but he touches on a really interesting subject which you’ve kind of touched on. Which is like this idea of the international jew, the rootless jew, who ascribes himself to this kind of Trotskyite, world-wide revolution kind of Marxism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there was the English jew, the naturalised jew in the United Kingdom, who didn’t have that kind of state of mind and in fact was somewhat of a contributor to the country. And Churchill had this view of zionism as being a solution to all these rootless jews to make them feel like they have some possession over some soil and their own ethnic identity and all the rest of it.</p>
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<p>Because before World War II, there were a lot of prominent jews in Australia that were absolutely staunch advocates and defenders of the White Australia Policy. So, I mean, number one of this is the great Isaac Isaacs*, who was our first Governor General and a High Court justice, who not only gave lip service to the White Australia Policy, but in court, he actively was involved in cases leading to the deportation of Asiatics from Australia.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Sir-Isaac-Alfred-Isaacs-4903.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35632" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Sir-Isaac-Alfred-Isaacs-4903.jpg" alt="" width="329" height="576" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Sir-Isaac-Alfred-Isaacs-4903.jpg 329w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Sir-Isaac-Alfred-Isaacs-4903-200x350.jpg 200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 329px) 100vw, 329px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Sir Isaac Alfred Isaacs, was an Australian lawyer, politician, and judge who served as the ninth Governor-General of Australia, in office from 1931 to 1936. He had previously served on the High Court of Australia from 1906 to 1931, including as Chief Justice from 1930. Isaacs was born in Melbourne and grew up in Yackandandah and Beechworth. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>So there was definitely a heavily assimilated, &#8230; I mean, you got General John Monash, who was someone of jewish extraction who fought in the war. He was the first one to kind of revolutionarily use planes, tanks and men in good sequence to save Australian lives.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s really fascinating! You have these guys that were before the war, that were kind of sympathetic to Australia, that were in favour of this concept of a White Australia. Then after the war, there’s this influx of real nasty personalities. There’s an interesting case, Egon Kisch.* He’s an Austrian jew who is in the Communist International. He tried to do a tour of Australia to kind of spur up the Communist Party here and all the rest of it. And when he gets to the immigration official, the immigration official says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Okay, cool, no worries. Can you say the Lord’s Prayer in Scottish Gaelic?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Egon-Kisch-in-Melbourne-in-1934-4904.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35631" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Egon-Kisch-in-Melbourne-in-1934-4904.jpg" alt="" width="787" height="567" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Egon-Kisch-in-Melbourne-in-1934-4904.jpg 787w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Egon-Kisch-in-Melbourne-in-1934-4904-600x432.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Egon-Kisch-in-Melbourne-in-1934-4904-768x553.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 787px) 100vw, 787px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Egon Kisch in Melbourne in 1934]</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Egon Erwin Kisch (29 April 1885 – 31 March 1948) was an Austrian and Czechoslovak <span style="color: #008000;">[jewish]</span> writer and journalist, who wrote in German. He styled himself Der Rasende Reporter (The Racing Reporter) for his countless travels to the far corners of the globe and his equally numerous articles produced in a relatively short time (Hetzjagd durch die Zeit, 1925), Kisch was noted for his development of literary reportage, his opposition to Adolf Hitler, and his Communism. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> of course, he couldn’t. You could use any European language in the dictation test. It wasn’t actually just five, it was any European language. And Kisch was deported.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in his stead, it was appealed to the High Court. And after a long series of cases, it was argued that Scottish Gaelic was not, in fact, the European language and he had to be given a more fair test.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:08:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, he ended up coming in and giving a couple of speeches. But definitely jews were a bit of a concern to Australia, particularly because of their kind of communist leanings. As Churchill picked up in Zionism versus Bolshevism, most Bolsheviks were of jewish extraction and they were very concerned about Communism coming to Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Department of Immigration had the same chairman for 15 years, from 1946 onwards. His name was Tasman Hayes, and he was very strict. When Australians were going through these refugee camps in Europe after the war, they had a little tick box on their form of “<em>Aryan non-jewish descent</em>”, and that was part of our immigration policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you did see a little bit of an influx of some jews who managed to slip through the cracks. And a lot of them were quite subversive because they were the East European jews that had no loyalty to Australia or to our, I suppose, British roots.</p>
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<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> By the way, they didn’t just slip through the cracks. There were international jewish networks, many of them based in the United States, which actively funded and supported jews to immigrate to Australia. So that’s another element as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Prior to the Second World War, Australia or the Immigration Department would analyze the physiognomy of applicants, and if they looked a little too jewish or they had a jewish sounding name, then they would make sure that they didn’t get through.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And a lot of those people were still working there, obviously, and things like what you just mentioned as well. So they actually needed that kind of institutional support to get in. But somehow a whole massive series of them still managed to get in despite all of that.</p>
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<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Not <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> helpful! But yeah, anyway, so that’s one thing. Those Eastern European jews, obviously with this whole post World War II schizophrenia about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” and all the rest of it, I think that the victimhood psychology and their existing Bolshevist kind of tendencies led to them generally being subversive to any kind of nationalist political movement. So there’s the jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re definitely a part of the whole series of events. But I’m never one person to attribute everything to them. I think there was a lot of other forces at play. And one of the big ones being the commercial interests.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we had really started scratching the bottom of the barrel. So after World War II we got a good influx of Europeans, but then in the post-war construction, the reconstruction of Europe, migration numbers kind of started to plummet. And so we started going to know Mediterranean migrants and then we kind of soaked all of the willing and suitable ones from those kind of extractions. So you had industries that wanted labour and then you have the perennial kind of corporatists who want to bring in non-unionised, scab labour. So they were definitely advocating behind the scenes in every Chamber of Commerce and all the rest of it. They were all advocates for bringing an end to the White Australia Policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then you have the Democratic Labour Party <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[DLP]</strong></span>. So they were a so-called anti-communist split off from the Australian Labour Party. So they actually were very staunchly Roman Catholic. They were led by BA Santamaria* and they had an event where they were trying to get a Japanese Bishop to come to Australia, to do a kind of a country mass out near Wagga. And the Bishop was refused entry, basically on the premise of a White Australia.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-35629" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/B.-A.-Santamaria-4905.jpg 1067w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: B. A. Santamaria (14 August 1915 – 25 February 1998) ]</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">[* Bartholomew Augustine Santamaria, usually known as B. A. Santamaria, or Bob Santamaria, was an Australian Roman Catholic anti-communist political activist and journalist. He was a guiding influence in the founding of the Democratic Labour Party, the party that split from the Labour Party in the 1950s. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:12:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So the DLP were the first party after the Communist Party to try and get rid of the White Australia Policy. So they were lobbying on one side, and while at the same time they sucked resources and votes out of the actual Labour Party who were still staunch advocates of a White Australia.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think the biggest nail in the coffin for White Australia practically was just the final election loss of Arthur Calwell.*</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Calwell-as-Leader-of-the-Opposition-4906.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35630" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Calwell-as-Leader-of-the-Opposition-4906.jpg" alt="" width="309" height="427" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Calwell as Leader of the Labour Party Opposition]</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Arthur Augustus Calwell KCSG (28 August 1896 – 8 July 1973) was an Australian politician who served as the leader of the Labour Party from 1960 to 1967. He led the party through three federal elections, losing each one in turn.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">In his final year in Parliament, Calwell made several statements regarding non-white immigration to Australia. In March 1972 he publicly endorsed British Conservative MP Enoch Powell’s views on race, later describing the United Kingdom as having experienced a “<em>black tragedy</em>”. In May 1972, in response to comments from customs minister Don Chipp s</span><span style="color: #008000;">upporting a multi-racial society, Calwell released a statement strongly opposing non-white migration to Australia, stating that he was “<em>appalled</em>” at the thought and was “<em>opposed to the creation of a chocolate-coloured Australia</em>”. In a subsequent interview with The Canberra Times, he stated that non-white migrants would lower community living standards as they “<em>live on the smell of an oily rag and breed like flies</em>”. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>So Calwell went to the national election on the policy of a White Australia. I think the national psyche had kind of changed. The Vietnam War is just kicking off. The DLP is saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We have to fight communism. And to do that we have to be best friends with everyone in Asia, which means we can’t have a racial immigration policy.”</span></h3>
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<p>Then you got the new generation, the baby boomers, all these university students who are absolutely obsessed with how exotic foreign people are.</p>
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<p>And I think the Colombo Plan, that plan I mentioned earlier, which I think on fundamentals is a pretty good concept, I think a lot of university students, they really had a hard on for some of their visitors from Asia and really just hated this concept of a stagnant kind of British descent, White Australia. They wanted some excitement! They were bored! Post World War II, the most wealthy, the most secure, probably the height of prosperity in our civilisation’s history. So people get bored, they want something exotic.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> They’re all on drugs!</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, they’re all on drugs, “<em>how good is the food</em>”, all the standard cultural tropes from them.</p>
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<p>So you have all these different prongs coming out. And the only stalwart defenders of White Australia, the Australian Workers Union and Calwell’s leadership of the Labour Party. And Calwell dies in 1973. He’d already handed over the reins to Gough Whitlam*.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s interesting, in the Parliamentary debates, when they’re talking about immigration, Gough Whitlam was actually quite staunch on the immigration issue, which you wouldn’t think because he’s kind of credited with bringing an end to White Australia. I think definitely this is in the late 60s when he’s doing this. And he really changed his tone when the 70s rolled around.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Australian politician, 21st Prime Minister of Australia (1916-2014) Edward Gough Whitlam was the 21st prime minister of Australia, serving from 1972 to 1975. He held office as the leader of the Australian Labour Party, of which he was the longest-serving. Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>So there was deception from all sides. But I do genuinely feel like people had lost sympathy for it. Definitely the institutions had. I think the average person was definitely still a supporter of the principles of a White Australia, but they’d also become very self conscious about it. And the way the media spun it was that the White Australia Policy was this:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Bigoted, hateful policy for no grounds other than we hate them because we breathe!”</span></h3>
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<p>And people sucked that up. They actually thought that White Australia was based on “<em>hate</em>” and not based on kind of industrial and social policy considerations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So by the time the 70s rolled around, 1973, Calwell dies, the Australian Workers Union takes White Australia off their platform and it all goes into freefall from there!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But, yeah, I really don’t think you can really attribute it to any one event. You have lots of these different events playing in unison. I mean, you’re getting pressure from the United States at the same time, they were actively lobbying against the policy, particularly in the later stages of World War II, when they wouldn’t let black sailors off the American ships when they landed in Sydney Harbour. That caused a lot of kerfuffle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when Harold Holt was in, the American President, I believe, brought up some concerns about White Australia. So we were just getting nailed from every side about it, really. That’s probably my synopsis on it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:16:11]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah. And I think just the general spirit of the times, unfortunately, internationally, this tendency towards the kind of greater cosmopolitanism, youth focused culture, the new mass media environment. Yeah, it was like this perfect storm. Obviously, at the same time that it was being undermined in Australia, the borders are starting to get opened across the entire Western world in one way or another through that time period. And that can’t be a coincidence, right? So obviously it would have to be a complex thing.</p>
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<p>I do also want to mention (((Walter Max Lippmann*))), who was prominent due a great five part series in The Occidental Observer to direct you to another one which I’ve spoken about many times before, written by Brenton Sanderson, The War on White Australia** a Case Study in the Culture of Critique. Highly recommended! Brilliant, brilliant write up!</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Walter-Max-Lippmann-4909.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35640" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Walter-Max-Lippmann-4909.jpg" alt="" width="306" height="500" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Walter Max Leopold Lippmann AM MBE (1919–1993) was a jewish and ethnic community leader and advocate of multiculturalism in Australia, Walter was born in Hamburg, Germany and moved to Melbourne, Australia in 1938. He was a member of the Commonwealth Immigration Advisory Council during the years 1967–74, and chaired its committee on community relations during the years 1973–75. He was a member of the committee to review the Special Broadcasting Service during the period 1983-84. He helped to establish and became chairman of the Ethnic Communities’ Council of Victoria during the period 1974-83, and held senior positions in the Federation of Ethnic Communities’ Councils. Source: Wikipedia.<br />
He received, in the 1987 Australia Day Honours, an MBE (Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) for service to the welfare of ethnic communities.]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[** https:// www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/09/06/the-jewish-war-on-white-Australia-colin-tatz-and-the-genocide-charge-part-one /]</span></p>
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<p>He talks in part three about Walter <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Max]</strong></span> Lippman, the jewish architect of Australian multiculturalism.</p>
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<p>Now there’s another figure, El Grassby*. He was of, I think, Spanish descent, who generally speaking is kind of held up as the father of Australian multiculturalism.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/A-1973-portrait-of-Al-Grassby-Labor-MHR-for-Riverina-4908.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-35635" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/A-1973-portrait-of-Al-Grassby-Labor-MHR-for-Riverina-4908.jpg" alt="" width="443" height="602" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* <span style="color: #008000;">Albert Jaime Grassby, AM (12 July 1926 – 23 April 2005) was an Australian politician who served as Minister for Immigration in the Labour Whitlam government. He completed reforms in immigration and human rights, and is often known as the father of Australian “<em>multiculturalism</em>”. He gained notoriety by acting as an agent of influence for the Calabrian criminal network that murdered anti-drugs campaigner Donald Mackay. Source: Wikipedia]</span></span></p>
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<p>However, that’s probably for political correct reasons. He’s not jewish, so he’s easier to blame. Obviously he’s still just as responsible.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> And Spanish too are to blame!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> So many people are to blame. But Lippman, I think, is important to note. I mean, he was a German jewish refugee who came just before the Second World War broke out, actually. Prominent member of the jewish community down in Melbourne. Active in their organisations and so on. And elevated through those networks, ultimately into being appointed during the Whitlam government in the early seventies to run the immigration department. With him in, all of the racists that were in the Immigration Department were flushed out! Because again, as we were saying, it was bureaucratically enforced. It wasn’t hard law so much as the law empowered the bureaucracy to exercise discretion, generally speaking.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[118:13]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And so it was really dependent upon the quality of individuals and the culture of the Immigration Department more so than anything else. And he wrote articles around the same time talking about how:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“A multicultural society is necessary for the jews to feel comfortable in the country because otherwise they’re going to be marginalised by the domination of Anglo Saxon cultural superiority.”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, and obviously you got the post “<em>Holocaust</em>” psychosis going on at the same time. This is also important to take into consideration and as the emergence of this pluralist ideology, the figures behind it.</p>
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<p>We should have mentioned this before, perhaps when we’re talking about World War I and World War II, but there was a consciousness that they were fighting for White Australia. Everything was justified in those terms. And you look at what we have today of documents of some of the war propaganda and so on, and it was incredibly racial the way that it was portrayed to the Australian people to get people to go and fight those wars and to moralise the soldiers. And the bodies that represented the soldiers were staunch in their advocacy. The RSL, the Return Services League, still had senior representatives speaking in defense of the White Australia Policy. Still in the 80s! I talked about this a little bit in The Joel and Blair Show that we did back on Anzac Day, for obvious reasons.</p>
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<p>But yeah, obviously their political influence was more prominent immediately after the Second World War, but it started to decline and the popularity of Australian veterans hit an all time low with the unpopularity of the Vietnam War, obviously. So their political capital was at an all time low at the absolute worst possible time., &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> It’s interesting, sorry. It’s interesting with Vietnam as well, because when Vietnam first kicked off, it was really popular. And Calwell and the Labour Party, who supported a White Australia, were dead against going into Vietnam. And that’s considered one of the big reasons why they lost that election, which led to Caldwell having to abdicate to Gough Whitlam. So it’s another interesting play in it.</p>
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<p>Like, obviously Vietnam became quite unpopular later, but it was Calwell’s refusal to send Australian troops into Vietnam which was a big contributor to them losing, which then kind of shook up the Labour Party after they lost a couple of elections back to back. It really made Calwell’s policies seem like outdated, unpopular. White Australia being part of the unpopular thing that needs to be thrown into the dust bin.</p>
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<p>But yeah, go on. Sorry.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> That’s a good interjection because it’s an important context because this is the Cold War period. Right?</p>
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<p>So the accusations to the Left that they aren’t sufficiently anti-communist were obviously very potent at that time, and particularly with the DLP thing that you described and them breaking away to kind of get a picture of the political climate at the time. Also in the 70s, when we were starting to really bring in non-White migrants, really for the first time in large quantities, one of the key selling points and one of the main demographics was the Vietnamese, that:</p>
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<p>And so on.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> A lot of the South Vietnamese refugees were very anti-communist, which was seen as another playing card in their deck. That’s why a lot of people supported, like a lot of DLP types, the anti-Communists. They’re so anti-communist, they’ve become colour-blind and they’ll take in any anti-communist in the world.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I mean, you still have that today, right? With Conservatives talking about “<em>based minorities</em>”. You see that quite often with people like Mark Latham and they’re like:</p>
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<p>Yes, we’re getting to the kind of tragic component of the story. And I guess really White Australia, it came into being as we described in the 19th century, as a political concept through struggle. And it was almost like at the end of World War II, we had so much prosperity. I mean, Australian prosperity was at a scale that was really only matched by the United States.</p>
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<p>Even to this day, despite all the damage that’s been done to our economy, our GDP per capita is higher than pretty much any European country, I think, except like Switzerland and Luxembourg and those kinds of countries. And it’s very close to the American levels. Plus we have a European style Welfare State on top of that, unlike the Americans.</p>
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<p>So incredible prosperity in Australia. And that’s after so much damage has been done. Back in the mean it was incredible! We truly lived in, from an economic standpoint, a utopia. The boomers had it good! And much like the cosmopolitan Brits in London that had no concept of the impact of this importation of foreign races, non-White races into the country, they also, I think, lacked this perception. And it’s a lack of perception that you see to this day in the White upper middle class who live in some of the gentrified intercity areas and the only non-Whites they have to deal with are high IQ, successful non-Whites who don’t seem so bad.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, the White working class out in places like Western Sydney have to deal with the actual reality.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:23:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But yeah, in the 80s you do see a little bit of pushback starting to come online, some prominent academic defenders of White Australia emerge. You see a figure like John Howard who was in opposition at the time making some pretty charged comments on the subject of immigration. Conservatives getting more muscular in their opposition.</p>
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<p>So the Labour Party, which under Paul Keating, you know, really pushed into the:</p>
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<p>And the Asianification of Australia and really doubling down on multiculturalism.</p>
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<p>And with the end of the Cold War, “<em>end of history</em>”, global liberal internationalist, the ideology that we’re accustomed to now really came through with Keating. And in response to that you get the One Nation Party. So even though the One Nation Party didn’t advocate for a return to the White Australia Policy, they were obviously representative of that tendency. An echo of those tendencies meant much of the rhetoric from Pauline Hanson* when she first emerged onto the scene as a national political figure. There were echoes of Labour Party rhetoric from the 60s and earlier. People like Ben Chifley and so on, I think, who she directly quoted in her maiden speech. And I think her speech writers were guys that, I think the main speech writer – I can’t remember his name, unfortunately you might know who he was – wrote that “<em>Swamped by Asians</em>” speech** that she gave, famous.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Pauline Lee Hanson (née Seccombe, formerly Zagorski; born 27 May 1954) is an Australian politician who is the founder and leader of One Nation, a Right-wing populist political party. Hanson has represented Queensland in the Australian Senate since the 2016 Federal Election.]</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[** MP Pauline Hanson called for an end to multiculturalism, foreign aid and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission in her maiden address to Parliament (1996)</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">‘I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians,’ she said.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">‘They have their own culture and religion, form ghettos and do not assimilate.’]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> I remember his face, but not the name!</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> I think he used to work for Graeme Campbell* who set up the Australia First Party after leaving the Labour Party as one of these old racist Labourites that are no longer welcome.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Graeme Campbell (born 13 August 1939) is an Australian “<em>far-Right</em>” politician. Campbell represented the seat of Kalgoorlie in the Australian House of Representatives from 1980 to 1998 as a member of the Australian Labour Party. Campbell later founded the nationalist Australia First Party, before joining Pauline Hanson’s One Nation. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, there was a few of them, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> And so One Nation came on board and it was a bit of a flash in the pan. It was interesting to get your reflections on the 90s and White populism coming back into vogue.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, there’s a really bit of interesting history there. And a reasonable amount of it is captured in <a href="https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/handle/2123/807/adt-NU20020222.14582202whole.pdf;jsessionid=603A0B71B5321046D779E7820CAECCEF?sequence=1">Dr. Jim Salem’s PhD thesis</a> which is like a contemporary study of the far-Right in Australia.</p>
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<p>But you had all sorts of groups, you had Australians against further immigration and that was a political party that got stacks of votes! One Nation ended up sucking most of their votes up. And then the Liberal Party started playing the game to win their votes back. And that was part of Howard’s crusade to try and bring votes back. But you did still have some of these old hangout kind of nationalists in the Labour Party.</p>
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<p>So, you mentioned Graeme Campbell. Another one was John Fischer. He was in the Western Australian Parliament and he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You cannot have a nation where the only shared value is the fact that there are no shared beliefs! The importance of a clear definition is now more urgent. And due to the disastrous federal policies of multiculturalism imposed on us by major political parties since the Whitlam era, multiculturalism is the negation and the rejection of a shared national identity.”</span></h3>
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<p>So you do get some dudes in the back ranks, which is still kind of causing a bit of a fuss. And there is some voting outbursts like Australians against further immigration. One Nation. Then you get some of the more exotic, like, National Socialist Democratic Australian Party. There’s all these weird kind of dudes that are kind of role playing as 1930s Germans, but in Australia.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:27:22]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So there’s a few of those little parties floating around. But overall it does seem to become like the majority of Australians, you know, Bob Hawke* and Paul Keating**, these trendy Labour prime ministers were fully on board with Asianisation. And so I think a lot of the country went with them. Because particularly Bob Hawke was probably our most loved prime minister for a very long time, just because he could shoot a pint of beer real quick and created Medicare.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AUSTRALIAN-Jews-and-the-State-of-Israel-owe-Bob-Hawke-a-great-deal-4912.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35636" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AUSTRALIAN-Jews-and-the-State-of-Israel-owe-Bob-Hawke-a-great-deal-4912.jpg" alt="" width="649" height="717" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AUSTRALIAN-Jews-and-the-State-of-Israel-owe-Bob-Hawke-a-great-deal-4912.jpg 649w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AUSTRALIAN-Jews-and-the-State-of-Israel-owe-Bob-Hawke-a-great-deal-4912-600x663.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 649px) 100vw, 649px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Robert James Lee Hawke AC GCL (9 December 1929 – 16 May 2019) was an Australian politician and trade Unionist who served as the 23rd prime minister of Australia from 1983 to 1991. He held office as the leader of the Australian Labour Party (ALP), having previously served as the president of the Australian Council of Trade Unions from 1969 to 1980 and president of the Labour Party national executive from 1973 to 1978.<br />
During the period of 1973 to 1979, Hawke acted as an informant for the United States government. According to Coventry, Hawke as concurrent leader of the ACTU and ALP informed the US of details surrounding labour disputes, especially those relating to American companies and individuals, such as union disputes with Ford Motor Company and the black ban of Frank Sinatra. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[** Paul John Keating (born 18 January 1944) is an Australian former politician who served as the 24th prime minister of Australia from 1991 to 1996, holding office as the leader of the Australian Labour Party (ALP). He previously served as the treasurer of Australia under Prime Minister Bob Hawke from 1983 to 1991 and as the seventh deputy prime minister of Australia from 1990 to 1991. Source: Wikipedia.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Paul-Keating-and-Anthony-Pratt-at-an-Australian-Financial-Review-event-4913.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35638" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Paul-Keating-and-Anthony-Pratt-at-an-Australian-Financial-Review-event-4913.jpg" alt="" width="824" height="588" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Paul-Keating-and-Anthony-Pratt-at-an-Australian-Financial-Review-event-4913.jpg 824w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Paul-Keating-and-Anthony-Pratt-at-an-Australian-Financial-Review-event-4913-600x428.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Paul-Keating-and-Anthony-Pratt-at-an-Australian-Financial-Review-event-4913-768x548.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 824px) 100vw, 824px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: Australian jewish billionaire Anthony Pratt has Keating on his list of “<em>consultant</em>” payments to him of <strong>$25,000</strong> a month and to Tony Abbott of <strong>$8000</strong> a month after his hiring in June 2019. Source: https:// www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/being-rich-is-my-superpower-tapes-reveal-pratt-is-pursuit-of-the-powerful-20231017-p5ecwv.html]</span></p>
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<p>So you had the general population kind of being raised with like a negative reflection on their recent history. So you already have the media and the education game in full force. So the loyalty to the concepts of a wide Australia really become lost.</p>
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<p>And then the typical conservative just talking about immigration generally and civic nationalism starts to become more of a force to play in the 90s.</p>
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<p>But yeah, it goes on and it just quietly dies in the background. I think a lot of nationalism, a lot of groups and causes were kind of discredited with their own autism.</p>
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<p>So it’s a bit of a shame.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, I mean, I was reading about the 90s recently and there was a study that was done because I was reading about the formation of the Australian property lobby in the 90s, which they really got organised in response to the sudden emergence of Pauline Hanson.</p>
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<p>And people who are younger and don’t really know about that time, Hansen was a nobody that burst onto the scene in 1996 and just simply because she was just some random fish and chip shop lady that was preselected for the Liberals in a seat they didn’t expect to win, who came out and started talking about the problems with Aboriginals and with immigrants and the media went ballistic against her. The Liberal Party removed their endorsement. She ran as an independent and won! The people were behind her.</p>
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<p>And then all of a sudden, this One Nation Party infrastructure was just kind of smashed together through different elements very quickly and rapidly. And because it was kind of put together by grifters and inexperienced political figures, including Hansen herself, it didn’t have any staying power, it was a total disaster and it fell apart as quickly as it was put together.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:30:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But in the Queensland election, I believe in 96 or 98, they did get like a quarter of the vote! Which is insane for some brand new political party, obviously. So it showed the appetite in the electorate. There was a study done, I think, in 1994 on immigration and what they found was that 71% of Australians wanted radical reductions to immigration.</p>
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<p>So immigration was wildly unpopular! And no one was giving the people a voice. And then even this awkward, politically inexperienced, gaff machine woman comes on the scene and just makes a few noises in the right direction and becomes a political force that shakes the foundations of Australian politics for the subsequent decade.</p>
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<p>So that shows how the sentiments in the general Australian population were still relatively racially conscious, despite everything even in the 90s. I think we should look at that, its tragic in many respects at how much of a missed opportunity it was and how poorly handled it was and how we’ve inherited basically nothing, almost from the people who were involved back then.</p>
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<p>But it should also be a cause for some optimism because of how quickly it was able to kind of shoot up in political relevance, that if it could be replicated with better organisation, that who knows what could happen.</p>
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<p>But in those days, Australia was still over 90% White. And even the Australia that I grew up in, I was born in 1995. When I was a young child in the 2000s in the areas in where I grew up and lived and so on, pretty much everyone was White. It was kind of strange to see a non-White person, even though I lived in suburban Melbourne and suburban Sydney. And then gradually the floodgates opened and, &#8230; There’s about 20 million White people in Australia today.</p>
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<p>But there’s about 7 million non-Whites in Australia, more or less. And thankfully, I think less than 2 million of them actually have citizenship.</p>
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<p>But obviously now we’ve got Albanese opening the floodgates into the country at unprecedented levels. We’ve got immigration rates now that are three times the national record on a yearly basis in this kind of post Covid era. Anti-immigration politics is coming back to the fore and a new kind of identitarianism is becoming internationally popular because the reality that there is this global replacement of the White race across the entire Western world is dawning on everyone! Whether you want to take whatever kind of reaction you want to take to it it’s gotten past the stage where people could just ignore it. It’s now becoming just a reality of life that everyone has to accept and now we have to make the debate is around the value judgements and the response.</p>
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<p>And today, though, traditionally White Australia was very much focused on economic issues. And there are some economic issues that are quite egregious, which are caused by immigration today. The speed in which they’re bringing people in is obviously causing a housing crisis in Australia. Now we’re recording this 15 July 2023. Rents are flying up at record levels in Sydney and Melbourne. There’s wage stagnation even though we’re having an inflation crisis and it’s an economic mess from the Covid recovery mixed with mass immigration.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:33:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p>There’s something like a million foreign students in Australia right now. So many Indians pouring in through student visas, taking all of these low skilled jobs. We got the Chinese buying up neighbourhoods, we got Indians buying up neighbourhoods, White people moving into, there’s less and less options within the cities for young White families. Birth rates are at an all time low. We’re in a very bad position. And it’s become, as I said at the beginning, in the minds of the Australian political elite and media establishment you’re an “<em>extremist</em>” if you’re loyal to this idea of White Australia, if you have a racial identitarian worldview when it comes to politics.</p>
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<p>So under this context, how much of what we’ve discussed in Australian history do you think we can draw upon? Because I think there is a certain kind of post class, post material element to identitarian politics today where even despite all of these economic machinations, the average Australian is still pretty well off. It’s more of an existential threat, a cultural threat, a way of life threat. It is an economic issue as well, but I don’t think that’s enough of a motivating factor.</p>
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<p>And I think that the story that we just told of describing how White Australia was preserved despite all of its opposition for the first half of this country’s existence and then how it was destroyed, was that in the first half of this country’s existence it was explicitly racial identitarian. We you mentioned some quotes. I mentioned some quotes, but every political leader at that time was a White nationalist! And they did not pull any punches. They were explicit.</p>
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<p>And then we get the phase in the 50s, 60s, 70s, where it becomes you have to talk around the issue and you can’t speak about it directly. We talked about Pauline Hanson. That’s the ultimate politics of talking around the issue where:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, I’m not racist! And it’s no immigration without assimilation. And the problem is that they’re not assimilating!”</span></h3>
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<p>But now the One Nation Party is running Indians in elections in New South Wales to try and win the Indian vote because according to Mark Latham, the leader of the One Nation Party in New South Wales, Indians have family values and nationalism. And these are One Nation values, apparently. So they’ve completely acquiesced.</p>
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<p>But the point is that the civic nationalism, the economic nationalism wasn’t enough. It wasn’t enough ultimately to preserve White Australia. And I’ve also talked a bit recently about how if you look at the voter demographics, non-English speaking immigrants vote for the Left at like a 20% higher rate voting for the Labour Party than either English speaking immigrants to Australia or Australian born who vote basically the same way if you control for average income.</p>
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<p>So the Right-wing has totally abandoned, &#8230; You talked about Howard and you’re probably seeing a similar thing with Dutton. Well, they’ll dog whistle certain anti-immigration sentiments while they’re in opposition to maintain political legitimacy. But when they get in they’re beholden to the same big business interest that they always have been, and they’re going to keep pouring the immigrants in.</p>
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<p>So how do we learn from our history? What can we take into 2023 and beyond? How can we bring back White Identity Politics to Australia in light of all of this?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:37:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, well, good question. I think the first thing worth noting is that during the days of Bob Hawke and Keating in the we did have all these kind of nationalist sympathies getting around and different groups.</p>
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<p>And although we haven’t been handed much of an inheritance other than some good ideological groundwork which has been done by a lot of kind of Nativist nationalists in the last 30 years. What we have been inheriting from them, to those that are willing to listen and those willing to read and understand is a lot of lessons learnt about practical organisational skills and ideological issues.</p>
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<p>So there has been some things handed to us. Because nationalists really had to restart after the Labour Party dropped White Australia. A whole new cadre of completely fresh people had to reinvent the wheel and create a political machine. I mean, Australia’s modern context is not too far off from the historical context. I mean, in the 1890s in Australia, there was also a housing crisis and there was cause for the progressive land tax and there was arguments about immigration affecting housing affordability and labour costs and all the things that Philip Lowe* was talking about the other day.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe has warned that not enough homes are being built to house an influx of migrants, predicting that rents will continue to rise in a further hit to household budgets. Source: <a href="https:// www.afr.com/policy/economy/philip-lowe-is-housing-market-warning-20230405-p5cya0">https:// www.afr.com/policy/economy/philip-lowe-is-housing-market-warning-20230405-p5cya0</a>]</span></p>
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<p>I think one of the big things, if we take the economics out of this situation, we forget the fact that 7/11 was paying Indians $0.75 an hour a couple of years ago, according to some news reports.</p>
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<p>The issue we have to really look at now from a know, cultural, social point of view is this concept of social capital and diversity. So there is a lot of academic literature that’s coming out now.</p>
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<p>I mean, the real Magna Carta in this space is Robert Putnam’s work in Diversity and Community in the 21st Century, which is a 2007 academic study into ethnic diversity and how it was found in the United States ethnically diverse neighbourhoods, all the races kind of hunker down. So it lowers a sense of trust. It lowers the sense of common identity, belonging. It reduces, I suppose, the moral and social desire for people to commit acts of charity and voluntarism. This kind of point of our civilisation where people go and do good in the private space, they create mutual associations and charities, and neighbours take care of each other, and you have street barbecues and all the rest of it. You have a common sense of belonging, identity, purpose and destiny. These things are all considered “<em>social capital</em>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:40:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And a lot of the literature now is pointing to the fact that the greater there is diversity amongst ethnicities, the lower there is social capital, the less trust there is so from the point of view, it’s actually to no one’s benefit except international finance, who benefits from cheap labour, or perhaps to the benefit of Trotskyites who have an interest in creating social upheaval so they can try and win themselves political power. It’s of no one’s interest, not even the migrants interest, to have this level of diversity. Ethnic diversity is an absolute detriment to civil society and the creation of meaningful community, especially national community.</p>
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<p>I mean, even Charles Pearson, in his <a href="https:// archive.org/details/nationallifechar00peariala">National Life and Character</a>  in 1893, he comments on the fact that government and democracy becomes quite impossible when you have such divergent populations that constitute the voter base. When you have different ethnic and cultural groups that are all pulling in different directions, things become more and more radical. Similar to how it is in India. In India, you have very diverse ethnic and cultural and religious groups that are all pulling in different directions. And those directions, they manifest in the Parliament of India. But often it spills out onto the streets, into great mass mob violence. And there’s great upheaval in any instance where you have a democracy that’s racially and ethnically diverse.</p>
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<p>So I think that’s the next thing we have to tap in. We learn all these things from the past. We learn the economic issues, but we’re also learning the social issues.</p>
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<p>And now there’s a great body of academic work looking at this issue of social capital and diversity. And we need to make a point of that and we need to make a solid, stalwart argument for a White Australia that is a European descent country. How Henry Parks was talking about Asiatics having different institutions. If we go back to why is it important to be White? It’s important to be White because we have a valued heritage. We look at our English common law and we look at our Parliamentarian system. We look at basic liberties of the man. I hate to use the word “<em>liberalism</em>” because it’s obviously morphed into a great, more negative and destructive force in civilisation.</p>
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<p>But the forces at play in civilisation from Rome up until probably 150 years ago, in my point of view, are positive things and those things are going to be adhered to by people of European extraction because they can always look back and say:</p>
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<p>They spilt blood for the principles of our civilisation. Where people from Asia or Africa don’t have that same affinity. Their ancestors didn’t fight for Magna Carta. They didn’t fight for the Act of Settlement. They were just in know, they were living in huts and having a good time!</p>
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<p>So it’s just different cultures, different ethnic groups and races have different things they value based on their heritage. And so therefore you’ll never be able to have that homogeneity and Common Purpose and identity.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> What we’re finding out from race realism as well, which they wouldn’t have known, didn’t have genetic modeling and things like this back in the formation of the White Australia Policy, is that it’s not just about heritage. What you said is obviously incredibly important!</p>
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<p>But also what we find from race realism is that the largest genetic differences, the largest biological differences between the races have to do with neurophysiology. Not skin colour or bone structure or these kinds of things, but neurophysiology. In other words, in the aspects of our biological makeup which have the most influence over attitudes, behaviours, tendencies and so on.</p>
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<p>So you can see how this would manifest in cultural and political differences, because it means we fundamentally just hardwired with different mentalities.</p>
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<p>And so the preservation of our way of life is really there is a kind of conscious aspect to our heritage but also an unconscious organic aspect to our heritage which just comes through us in an involuntary way. It’s just part of who we are, that only fellow people of European descent can share with us. It’s just simply impossible for us to share that with people of other races and vice versa.</p>
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<p>And that really does account for why we have such radically different civilisations. I mean, you look to the Japanese, for example, and I have a very impressive country, a very impressive civilisation. They were our ancient enemy. But now I’m quite happy actually to be allied with the Japanese. I find them to be a respectable people.</p>
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<p>And now, other than the United States, they are probably our next best ally, frankly. And you could see in their culture, it’s a very developed, very impressive culture, but it’s radically different. We can appreciate things about them and they can appreciate things about us.</p>
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<p>But ultimately you can only have a Japan if it’s Japanese people.</p>
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<p>And I think everyone understands that, thankfully, I think including most Japanese people still. And it’s the same for us. And if we want our children to have a way of life that is in any way analogous to what we were accustomed to when we were being raised, where my parents never had to sit me down, they probably didn’t have the ideological resources to sit me down and explain to me my heritage as Anglo Saxon or as an Australian. It just happened naturally. It was just growing up, I participated in that they’re just normal Australian people. We have a normal Australian culture and I just organically learnt about it, internalised it and so on.</p>
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<p>No one told me you have to like cricket. I just did. No one told me it’s really nice to have a barbecue on a Saturday night. I just like doing that, you know what I mean? It’s just little things like that which might not seem like much, but they accumulate when you really add them all up together. And that is just part of who we are.</p>
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<p>And it’s something which really dawned on me. Even traveling in Britain for some time in other parts of Europe and coming back to Australia, even just the differences between us and them, even though the racial stock is so similar, the people there in Denmark or in England, they look just like Australians pretty much. But even those differences are large. Then you multiply that with racial differences and it’s just incredible!</p>
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<p>I think that’s really the basis of the new politics is this more advanced and developed understanding of racial and cultural difference and its importance. Because obviously with advances in air travel and other kinds of transport technology and economic development, mass immigration is so much easier than it ever was before.</p>
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<p>And so we’re kind of running this experiment, this multiracial experiment in a radically new way with this anti-racist ideology kind of bolted onto it to kind of force integration.</p>
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<p>And to me, it’s an issue that ultimately transcends class differences. Then, even though it is easy for the White upper class, as we mentioned before, to escape some of the consequences, they can’t escape all of them. And the longer that it goes on, the harder and harder it is going to be for these people to escape them.</p>
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<p>So I guess the final thought would be to get from you before we close this up, Matthew, would be, fundamentally, when it comes to the White Australia Policy, if you had to kind of boil it down into a nutshell, its significance, because this should be our birthright. Unfortunately, it wasn’t really handed to us, but this should be our birthright. This is what our ancestors, my ancestors have been in Australia for over 200 years. I think from talking to you, it’s similar time frame, maybe even longer. Our ancestors were actually part of this building White Australia.</p>
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<p>So this was supposed to be our birthright that’s being stripped away. That’s why I wanted to make this, because I really wanted there to be a resource and hopefully more resources can get developed to really impress upon this history to our people.</p>
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<p>But to you, what is the essential inheritance if you had to kind of sum it up? What’s most inspirational to you about the history of the White Australia Policy and the formation of this once great nation?</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> From my point of view.</p>
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<p>The most important thing to me is this creation of a national sense of community. People sharing a common sense of identity, belonging, purpose, where people shared the same worldview and outlook on life. I think it gets back to this idea of a homogeneous society being the ultimate form of a society. I think there’s nothing wrong with being friends with your neighbours and having good relationships with all sorts of cultures and ethnic groups around the world.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:49:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But I think your home and the place where you dwell, you should be principally in relations with people of your own stock. And that creates the greatest sense of community and belonging and creates the most positive attributes of our culture and human condition. People are more inclined to do acts of good work and charity and all the rest of it. But it is just essential to everything, our standard of living as decent, civilised people, and not rats working for a bowl of rice a day. That’s really important too. But the big thing to me is just the social cohesion, culture and community. That’s the biggest draw card to me.</p>
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<p>Before we finish, I’d like to just read one final quote from Billy Hughes, our 7th Prime Minister of Australia, in the Parliamentary debates on the 5 July 1949. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I want to make it clear to the honourable members and to the people of this country that the White Australia Policy is not a mere banner waved by politicians and waved to inflame party passions. It is a living thing. White Australia is Australia! And everything that is inherent in the White Australia Policy is vital to the very existence of Australia itself.”</span></h3>
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<p>And that truly is on all levels the racial, cultural, White Australia really is Australia and everything that we hold dear to our heritage is inextricably linked to the fact that this was a European descent country.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> Yeah, thank you Matthew, this was great! And you can find the website for Matthew’s organisation, the Australian Natives Association. <a href="https://ausnatives.org">Ausnatives.org</a>, AUSnatives.org. I’ll put link in the description. Also I’ll put links to your Telegram and your Twitter and so on so people can go and find your social media presence. Yeah, if you’re interested in finding out about the organisation, we did a podcast, I think maybe six months ago or so, which is also on this channel talking about your organisation and the philosophy of the organisation. So if you haven’t watched that, you can go check that out.</p>
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<p>But yeah, pleasure to have you on, as always and hopefully we can do another collabouration soon on another subject. I thought this was really good.</p>
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<p><strong>Mathew Grant:</strong> Yeah, great! No, it was good.</p>
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<p><strong>Joel Davis:</strong> The audience will love it. So thanks everyone for listening.</p>
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<p>And by the way, if you’re watching this, you might not know that I have a second, I did mention earlier, the show that I do with Blair. I have a second YouTube channel, The <a href="https://odysee.com/@joeldavis:0/the-white-australia-policy-(feat.:6">Joel and Blair Show</a> YouTube channel. You can find@youtube.com slash at Joel and Blair. And there Blair Cottrell and I every Thursday night, 08:00 p.m., we talk about Australian political news, basically for the previous week and do our kind of analysis. So check that out.</p>
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<p>There isn’t too many weekly shows on Australian politics that are worth listening to. I’d like to think that the one that we do is one of the few that actually is so go and subscribe to that if you haven’t already. And thanks for listening.</p>
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<p>(Comments as of 7/29/2023 = 28)</p>
<p>@zoomerboomer3109<br />
1 day ago<br />
Exellent stream, can be hard to find good historical discussions about Aus and NZ history. Bloody insufferable being forced to read books from the likes of James Belich.<br />
13</p>
<p>@maxtrainor8401<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great work, can you make one on an American version of white policy?<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@windhoek1675<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
If you would like a book on this subject for your own reading, I’d recommend re-forging America by Lothrop Stoddard.<br />
5</p>
<p>@peroercegovac1973<br />
1 day ago<br />
Fantastic stream. At the highest level of historicism. Well done.<br />
6</p>
<p>@SteveLogan-lt8zi<br />
1 day ago<br />
Excellent discussion. Hopefully it is an ongoing thing.<br />
13</p>
<p>@Vingul<br />
1 day ago<br />
Extremely interesting, great to hear so many quotations by men of the era, very relatable and relevant to us (though I’m not Australian myself).<br />
Joel, or Matthew, what book would you recommend to understand this era and the policy? If you were to recommend only one, I guess — either an original work from the time or a later overview.<br />
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<p>@letztersohndesabendlandes7471<br />
1 day ago<br />
Commenting so that I get notified if anyone responds to this &#8211; also interested in going a bit deeper on nationalist Australian history.<br />
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<p>@deanalessi9583<br />
1 day ago<br />
Australia&#8217;s awakening, thirty years in the life of an Australian agitator by William Guthrie Spence<br />
4</p>
<p>@Vingul<br />
1 day ago<br />
@deanalessi9583 Thanks!</p>
<p>@jackmatthews939<br />
23 hours ago (edited)<br />
The Making of White Australia &#8211; P.Griffiths &#8211; Australian National University 2006<br />
The Making of White Australia &#8211; D.Gibb &#8211; Victorian Historical Association 1975<br />
The Administration of the White Australia Policy &#8211; A.C.Palfreeman &#8211; Melbourne University Press 1967<br />
History of the White Australia Policy to 1920 &#8211; Myra Willard &#8211; Melbourne University Press 1978<br />
&#8220;Be Just &amp; Fear Not&#8221; &#8211; A.A Calwell &#8211; Wilk &amp; Company 1972<br />
This is probably the best book to explain what happened in Australia post WW2 &amp; is written by a former major politician/minister covering until the 1960&#8217;s.<br />
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<p>@LogosVeritas-di1yp<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Great work guys. Matthew grant is so very knowledgable on this topic. thanks for putting this together Joel<br />
2</p>
<p>@domsanchez148<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great work as usual.<br />
7</p>
<p>@blackriders3509<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well done<br />
13</p>
<p>@henrylawson938<br />
1 day ago<br />
Let&#8217;s have a 20 yr moratorium on immigration and close down immigration, just leaving passport control and border protection.<br />
6</p>
<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@gch8810<br />
1 day ago<br />
50 years would be better.<br />
4</p>
<p>@EliteBuildingCompany<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good stream, cheers.<br />
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<p>@jeffreysebranek9697<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hi joel. Love your shows buddy<br />
1</p>
<p>@leonieblah8806<br />
1 day ago<br />
great video<br />
4</p>
<p>@BasedYeeter42<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Interesting stuff, curious to know where the Lebanese would fit into this model, considering our tendency to pass off as white in comparison to our neighbors<br />
1</p>
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<p>@LuciusAugustusRomanusInvictus<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Anecdotally it seems Christian and Muslim lebos are almost different populations but it would be stretching the definition of white to include lebos in general</p>
<p>@audhumbla6927<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-jp4ci5ny3v<br />
1 day ago<br />
Let&#8217;s gooooooo<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this Book Club video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>Aunt Sally, Natty and Bill Atheling and I are joined by Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing as we review the second edition of Ben Bradberry’s (in The Myth of German Villainy) fascinating breakdown of atrocity stories that were invented to provoke hatred of Germany and the German people in order to convince the public to support two world wars.</em>”</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">NOTE: The entire book (first edition) has been serialised (22 parts) here. See bottom of post. Also a transcript of an interview with Ben Bradbury is also available.)</span></h3>
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Aunt Sally, Natty and Bill Atheling and I are joined by Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing as we review the second edition of Ben Bradberry’s fascinating breakdown of atrocity stories that were invented to provoke hatred of Germany and the German people in order to convince the public to support two world wars.<br />
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody, and welcome to Book Club.</p>
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<p>Now, it’s been a little while since the last book club, and that’s because we had Easter Sunday, and obviously we didn’t want to be streaming on Easter Sunday because everyone’s spending time with their family, etc. And it was a nice night off, but it delayed this particular episode. But we’re finally here, and we are live tonight on Odysee, DLive, Rumble and Entropy.</p>
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<p>So you can find us in all of those good places. And tonight we are reviewing The Myth of German Villainy.</p>
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<p>Now, this is the second edition, so I could only find this edition available in one place, and that’s directly from Money Tree Publishing. And we have Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing tonight to talk about the book, because the author has sadly passed away, so he’s going to be the representative discussing the book and discussing the things that have been added to it and why it’s an important book. So he’s taking the place of the author.</p>
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<p>Now, I would just ask you all a small favour. If you like these streams, if you like the book reviews, if you like the work we do, please consider making a small donation, and you can donate via Odysee or Entropy.</p>
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<p>And also, you don’t have to donate, obviously.</p>
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<p>And if you can’t afford to donate or want to help in another way, a great way for you to help us is by sharing the stream.</p>
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<p>And I think this is a really important stream, and it’s a really good book!</p>
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<p>And I’m going to throw it over to Dave in a minute because I want him to give sort of the intro. We’re still waiting on Aunt Sally. She’s having a few computer problems, so she might be with us tonight. She might not be, but her computer’s running really slow, so we’ll see if she arrives.</p>
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<p>But before we get into the book, I want to say something about this.</p>
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<p>Now, we’ve reviewed, or this is the 31st book we’ve reviewed on Book Club. So we’ve reviewed, you know, 30 books up until this day. And we have reviewed other books that have dealt with the realities, the truths of the Second World War. And you might be thinking to yourself:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, Mark, we’ve had a few reviews like this. We’ve covered a few books like this. Why would I want to read this book?”</span></h3>
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<p>And I’m going to start by saying, I read this book, and there were things in this book I didn’t know.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m not saying that I am the best read or the most educated when it comes to the historical facts of the First and Second World War. But there were some pretty major things that cropped up in this book that I actually hadn’t heard about. And there was things that I had heard about. And this book allowed me to build on my knowledge and my sort of historical grasp of these events. So I found the book very interesting.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So if you’re coming into this thinking maybe:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this sounds really great, Mark. This is the kind of book I’d like to read. But what makes this book different from other books like this that you’ve reviewed in the past?”</span></h3>
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<p>I want to just get that out the way straight away that I enjoyed the book and I always knew I was going to like it. But I didn’t realise what an education it would be for someone like myself who’s been doing this, been in dissident politics for 24 years, who has had, you know, been at numerous meetings where people have talked about things such as revisionism, the Second World War, where there’s been multiple books on sale about the topics that are broached in this book, yet this book still brought new things to the table.</p>
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<p>So I’m going to start by throwing it over to Dave. Dave is obviously the commander in chief over at Money Tree Publishing, and we always love having Dave on because he’s a very entertaining guy and he does his own show.</p>
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<p>So basically, Dave, why don’t you plug your own show for a start and where we can find you? Tell us a bit about why the second edition was published, how you got the rights to doing the second edition, and a little bit about the author who sadly passed away. And then we’ll go around the group and we’ll give out our impressions.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Sure. Sure. Am I coming through loud and clear?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> As loud and as clear as a blackbird song in the morning. Absolutely perfect!</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Lovely. We’ve got the mockingbirds down here in the Florida panhandle, and they sing throughout the day and night. So you could hear them at, you know, two, three in the morning, going wild. It’s lovely.</p>
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<p>Yes, the book.</p>
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<p>Now, when I was at American Free Press writing for them and the Barnes Review for about ten years, I remember hearing about the book when it first came out, and it just really struck a nerve with a lot of folks and struck a chord. And it was lauded. And I heard that. I had never read the first edition, but it was brought to my attention at a later date by Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, who, as you may be familiar with, they do the Hoaxbusters show over on our network Speak Free Radio, which you can access by going to speakfreeradio.com. And it’s a 24/7 Internet radio network.</p>
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<p>And I guess it would probably make sense if it’s okay to read the quick note from the publisher that I put in there. Mark, if I could read that.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Of course, my friend, you’ve got the floor, so please feel free to.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Thank you. It says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This book would not exist if not for the enthusiastic encouragement of Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, two true American patriots. Here’s the backstory after Jim heard a radio show with Benton Bradbury, and he’s the author, of course, on as a guest, Diane was able to get a hold of Ben’s contact information to set up an interview with Jim, which was done in January 2016. After the interview, Diane stayed in touch with Ben, and anytime a hurricane would sweep through the Jacksonville, Florida area, she would call to check on him. The last time she did, Ben informed her, probably in his characteristically matter of fact, no nonsense way, he had esophageal cancer and had about three months to live.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Seeking to preserve Benton Bradbury’s legacy after his unfortunate passing in 2019, and to give the book a larger audience, Jim and Diane suggested we contact Mister Bradbury’s family to speak with them about the future of the book. They were enthusiastic to keep the book in print, and this second edition, with some corrections and amplifications, is the final result.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Thank you to the heirs of this book and to Jim and Diane for entrusting us with this task to keep this most important work alive. We hope it meets with your approval.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Superb.</p>
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<p>So how did you go about putting together the second edition, then?</p>
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<p>And I think this fits very well in your library because obviously, we’ve had you on here before. We reviewed Hell Storm, and that was a, I mean, the package you put together for Hellstorm was some interesting, truly special.</p>
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<p>I think it was one of the first book reviews we did with you, and that package was incredible! Because you guys really, really went out there with not only the fantastic printed edition, but also with the audiobooks and the documentary as well. I think this fits in well with the rest of your library.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yes, absolutely! And we’re not going to be adding too many more parts to the library, for the simple reason that we just wanted to focus on what we consider to be the best examples of the particular topics that are being addressed.</p>
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<p>So this book took, as most books take, a long time to copy edit. And Ben was a former US Navy pilot. He had served in the military for, I think about 30 years. It’s in the actual, About the Author.</p>
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<p>Let me just quickly get that. Yeah. So he served from 55 to 77. Yeah, 32 years. I’m sorry, I can’t even add! 22 years in the US Navy. And he was born in 1937.</p>
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<p>Of course, as I said, he passed in 2019.</p>
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<p>So Ben wasn’t an historian. He was somebody who had visited Germany and was perturbed about what he witnessed up close and personal with the beautiful German people and what the poisonous media was spewing about the beautiful German people and their wonderful history.</p>
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<p>And so that’s what spurred him on to write a book about this.</p>
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<p>And as you mentioned in the intro, sadly, he has passed. And I, of course, am quite saddened by that because I know we would have hit it off, both being navy guys and both having an interest in this topic. So Ben, again, I wish I would have known the actual steps he went through, but he went through a process of reading a lot of books, as you could see in the bibliography. And he put together a manuscript and self published the book. And it was through another company that self published it wasn’t like money tree or even more traditional publishers. It was a publisher that said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, just give us your manuscript, and we’ll just make it into a book.”</span></h3>
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<p>So when I dig into a manuscript, or a book, I dig in like a copy editor and a proofreader. So I look at not just every page or every paragraph, every sentence or every word, but every character. And it takes quite a bit of time. Some would say that “<em>analysis is paralysis</em>”, but I can’t do it any other way. Just like if I’m reading a book, I always have a highlighter with me because I instinctively highlight stuff that I’m interested in or highlight errors. And then later, many times contact the author or the publisher and let them know, which they’re very much appreciative of.</p>
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<p>So I was born with this attention to detail, and I put that to work in Ben’s book, The Myth of German Villainy, the first edition.</p>
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<p>I think, because, you know, Ben wasn’t trained as an historian, or a writer there were some things that slipped through, some facts that weren’t facts, some quotes that were spurious, some material that needed, as I mentioned earlier, some amplification.</p>
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<p>And so I went through the entire manuscript along those lines. And the structure of what he wrote is there. That’s not changed. But the errors, maybe the wrong dates or the wrong names, the wrong facts, they’ve all been removed. And some parts of the book that I felt needed to be expanded upon were expanded upon. And photographs and images were added. Whereas the first edition had just black and white photos, some of them not very clear. This edition has a lot of colour photos, and when the actual photo itself or image itself was not in colour, black and white.</p>
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<p>Amazingly, and of course, I never would have thought it would have turned out this way. But the first edition and the second edition are almost the exact same number of pages! And for all the work that was done on it, that was surprising to me when I discovered that at the end.</p>
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<p>But this has 171 images. So we offer, let me see if that’s offered in this book. It is.</p>
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<p>So this book is offered in black and white and colour. And the black and white version has 171 black and white images. And the colour version, out of those 171 images, 123 are black and white, and 48 are a colour.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[14:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So I was very happy with how it turned out. It’s a project like this that goes on for three years. It’s kind of like birthing something, and you really don’t know until the end, at least I don’t, how it’s going to turn out. But I was very happy with the way that it turned out. And I’ve heard from a lot of folks stuff similar to what you said, Mark, that they knew a lot about this topic, but they learnt a lot from reading the book.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Fantastic! Thank you, my friend.</p>
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<p>Well, let’s go around the group.</p>
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<p>We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously, you’ve been here with the book club since the very beginning. What did you think of this book? Did you enjoy it? Give a bit of an overview, please.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, like you, in fact, I was looking at Hellstorm as you were giving your preface to the stream here. And this is a topic we do seem to cover a lot, but it’s evergreen, and there’s so much that feeds into us, and there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on in the world at the moment that makes this relevant.</p>
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<p>And I would argue that World War One and then the lead into World War Two and everything that’s happened since the Second World War is one of the most pivotal moments in the civilisation of Europe and probably the world. And I know it’s easy to say that given that we’re living in a time that is controlled and has echoes of the decisions made then and the events that happen then, because we’re living through it now, but it really does feel monumental.</p>
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<p>And the Second World War and the lead up to it and the aftermath of it, the immediate aftermath of it, without understanding it, you simply cannot have any logical or coherent narrative of the way the world is today. So revisiting this period in history, to me, is always interesting. And I echo what you said, and I’ve got it in my notes. There’s things in here that I didn’t know. And I’m less well read on this subject than you, to be honest, Mark.</p>
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<p>But even then, it was a pleasure. Might be the wrong word, but it was a pleasure to read just for that simple reason.</p>
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<p>Before we get into the heavy stuff, and I know we do this a lot on book club, and we’ve been chastised for it before, but the cover is just so fantastic! Because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know what, mate? I’m going to cut across you there. Not only is the cover fantastic, but it has loads of pictures in. And this book, it really commands your attention.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying that everything should be a picture book, but that cover made me want to read it. And what kept me going through a lot of it was when I was seeing actual illustrative proof of everything that the book was stating.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yes, it makes it a much easier read.</p>
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<p>And in fact, the cover which you can see in the thumbnail to the video, has this kind of long nosed, like, big chinned, be-monicled Nazi officer on it, right? And he’s standing in front of the famous train tracks that lead to Auschwitz.</p>
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<p>And recently me and my fiance have taken, well, not her so much, me have taken great pleasure in watching films about the Nazis in the Second World War. You know, most of its trash. Some of its slightly more high class, like The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. Schindler’s List is obviously, is the most famous one, but there are tropes <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> that come up in these films over and over again! And you could drink yourself silly playing drinking games, you know, jews raking the sand, barking dogs, Nazi officers screaming about:</p>
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<p>You know, it’s the same thing in every film!</p>
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<p>And as soon as I saw this, the cover for the book and this kind of be-monicled demonic old Nazi officer, I was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Yeah, it’s very fitting.”</span></h3>
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<p>So I know there’s heavy stuff in here, but I thought I’d make a comment on that because I think it’s definitely relevant. And like you said, the pictures go along with everything that’s written here. Makes it very easy to get through.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It certainly does.</p>
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<p>Well, now we’re going to introduce Bill. Sadly tonight it’s Bill’s last Book Club. I thought I’d mention this now. We were going to mention at the end, but now’s as good a time as any. Bill is basically simply just doesn’t have time to do this anymore. And we’ve really enjoyed Bill’s input, and if everyone would like to say a big thank you to him, that would be wonderful!</p>
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<p>But, Bill, this is your last Book Club. But what a Book Club to go out on, my friend. First, I’d like to thank you for all your hard work, and it has been a pleasure working with you over the years on this particular project. But what did you think of this book? And do you want to give a bit of an overview like Natty did?</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Well, thank you, Mark, for your kind words. Yes, this book, when I read through it the last few weeks, it reminded me of my own period going through the so-called “<em>red pill</em>”, because mine feel like I come from – my sins – from an academic background and teaching. And I began close on to 20 years ago, starting to look at and ask questions effectively, and I became interested in different aspects of this particular period. I’d really like to echo what Natty, yourself said, Mark.</p>
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<p>That period in time is the crux upon which the hammer of the future was hammered out. So it’s absolutely important! And I think for anybody who’s listening who’s not particularly interested or enamored with historical introspection, well, this is a good place to start to actually wake you up a little bit about it.</p>
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<p>The thing about this period, of course, is that it’s the time when truth really died! And a complete revision, if you want to use that word, is made of historical facts and occurrences. What this book does, of course, is it lays it out in a very clear, concise, readable, accessible way. It’s not written in highfalutin academic style. It’s not written in a low brow style. It’s written in a way that you can read it, you can enjoy it, and you can engage with it presents a lot of facts, a lot of facts which have been erased or are pushed under the carpet.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, it’s a very impressive piece of work. I agree about the aesthetics of it. The cover is very nice. I love the fact there were photographs and illustrations throughout, backing up everything that was being discussed as well. Very impressive piece of work! Yeah, that’s my initial summary, at least.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you, Bill. We’ve got Sally in tonight. I don’t know whether Sally can hear us. She’s been having computer problems. This will definitely be sorted for next time because she’s got a new computer, but she haven’t had time to set it up. So, Sally, if you can hear us, obviously, if you can’t, we’ll just continue on without you.</p>
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<p>But if you can hear us, give us a brief overview of what you thought of the book.</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Well, I can hear you, so please just say yes or no.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> We can hear you now. But yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Can you hear me?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Just about, yeah. There’s a little bit of a delay, I think.</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Just quickly, in case I have to leave. Because of <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> this is one of those books that’s up there with the greats that we’ve had. It’s a book I wish I’d had in my childhood in the sixties, because much of what I was being told didn’t make sense. It just didn’t make sense even to a child. You just didn’t ask. You didn’t ask because of everyone was war weary. My parents were war weary, even though my mum was a child during the war, but my dad just about got <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span>. Yeah, it’s one of the great books. I read it again with my mouth wide open at some of the things I didn’t <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span>. It’s a fantastic book and every boomer should read it, really. They should read it. Yeah, that’s it for now.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you, Sally. I think it’s a really, really good book.</p>
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<p>And one thing I want to say about this, and this is where I’m going to kick things off, I think this is important when you see, and I do like the cover I do like the cover. I think the cover is a good cover and we have bashed bad covers. But the cover gives kind of this misconception about the book, that it’s all going to be based around World War Two.</p>
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<p>Now, the first thing I want to say about this book is its not all about World War Two. This actually goes into a huge amount of detail about other topics, about World War One and sort of the origins of these anti-German myths. And some of the information within it, as I said, is stuff that I didn’t actually know.</p>
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<p>And I’ll read something from the beginning of chapter three, because this really jumped out to me. I’ve actually got the book here in my hands and I’m just flying through this.</p>
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<p>So this isn’t all just about National Socialist Germany. It isn’t all about the Second World War. It isn’t just sort of a rehashing of Germans did bad things and rounded up jews. There’s a lot of things here that I didn’t know and that give a greater context. Because obviously I know quite a bit about the Second World War. I know a little bit about the First World War, but I didn’t know this. And I’m reading directly from the book, and I quote:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“On December 12, 1916, two and a half years into the war, Germany made a peace offer to the Allies to end the war on a status quo ante basis. That is, no one wins and no one loses, no one pays reparations. Everyone just stops fighting and goes back home.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Germany had never wanted war in the first place. By that time, in the course of the war, Germany seemed on the verge of victory. Her submarine force had effectively stopped the supply convoys coming from America to Britain, creating critical shortages of all war material in Britain. France had already lost some 600,000 men in the battles of Verdun and the Somme, and the French soldiers were beginning to mutiny. The Italian army had collapsed completely, and Russian soldiers were deserting in droves and returning home. Germany appeared to be winning on both fronts, but the slaughter had been too great, and the British and French were unwilling to stop fighting short of victory.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The only way to justify the carnage and horrific loss of life was to fight on until victory could be obtained.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Moreover, as explained in the previous chapter, Britain had entered the war to destroy Germany as an industrial and commercial rival, and that remained her goal. British leaders were determined to find a way to break the stalemate and win the war. And they knew one sure-fire way of doing so was to bring America in on their side. A relentless effort was already underway to bring that about, but so far without success.”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And this goes into basically the jewish role in the First World War, which is very, very interesting indeed! But I didn’t know that when Germany were on top in the First World War that they had actually said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, we can win this, but there’s a huge loss of life here and we want peace, and we don’t want any more of our young men being slaughtered.”</span></h3>
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<p>And that, to me, was this sort of nugget of information that completely changed my perspective on the First World War and I’m sure would change the perspectives of many other people. And I hope those listening tonight will hear stuff like this and be like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow! That’s really interesting!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because I said I didn’t know that. And that’s something I drew from the book.</p>
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<p>Now I’m going to throw this over to Dave first, and we’ll go around the group and talk about this. But Dave, when you put this together, have you had any similar feedback to that? Because this is a lot more of a broad topic than the usual sort of post Second World War, you know, revisionary material, which is all based around, really a couple of the larger concentration camps and based on whether they were actually concentration camps or death camps, and then disputing figures based on facts.</p>
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<p>But this is a lot deeper than that, isn’t it?</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yeah, it is. And let me say that I too, of course, learnt tons from this book.</p>
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<p>So it’s not like I went in and knew it all and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Oh, let me find the errors and the misspellings and fix them all and make it better!”</span></h3>
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<p>No, I learnt a lot as well, and that was one of the parts that I really was not strong on, and I’m still not strong on it. I’m not, like you said, I’m not someone who knows everything about one topic. It’s virtually impossible to know that. But we can learn as much as we can, of course.</p>
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<p>So, yeah, that was an important part of understanding the whole story about, or what we think might be the whole story about how Germany felt, the government of Germany felt at that time and what was happening, how they did appear to be on top.</p>
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<p>And of course, that’s where the whole “<em>stab in the back</em>” comes in. Because how could it be that the Germans lost when they were winning on all fronts? Until, of course, the machinations that were occurring behind the scenes with that wildcard of what I call “<em>organised international jewry</em>”.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[29:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p>Now, throwing this over to Bill. Bill is a very modest man, and he’s actually had a very high profile academic past. He’s a man who is very well read, and he’s a man who certainly knows his stuff. I’m going to throw this over to you, Bill. This book was Illuminating to me, and I’m not for one minute going to suggest I am as well read as you are.</p>
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<p>But was there anything amongst this that sort of stood out and taught you something? And what did you think of the structure of the book? Because I think there is a misconception about these books, that they are just going to be sort of going over the well trodden ground.</p>
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<p>And as I said this, for me, a lot of it was absolutely new ground. That was fascinating!</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Yes, absolutely!</p>
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<p>And I think the way that the book builds up to the main thesis, the discussion at its centre, is by, as you say, laying the groundwork and touching upon areas which are outside of the central part of the 20th century, the late 1930s, 20th century build-up, and absolutely pertinently relate to that culmination that occurred.</p>
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<p>It’s a bizarre thing, you know, that you mentioned there about, and Dave mentions about the Germans were on the top of their game at certain points. And actually, both times, both the First and Second World War, Hitler did the same thing when he conquered France. He turned back to Britain and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Look, I don’t want a war on this front. This isn’t what I’m about.”</span></h3>
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<p>Offered generous peace terms, even proposed defending the British Empire, and, you know, he was spurned.</p>
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<p>So these are things which, when I first encountered them, I thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Well, you know, this can’t be right.”</span></h3>
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<p>And when you start looking at the actual facts of it, it’s there in black and white. It’s there and it’s evidence. You know, I refer to someone like David Irving, who’s someone who have read quite, quite deeply. And he did this, you know, “<em>heinous</em>” thing amongst historians. Instead of going to other historians and quoting and referring to what they were saying, he actually went and looked at source documents and looked at the facts of the original from the period and presented those things. And it tells, it paints a completely different picture.</p>
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<p>So I think that’s one of the significant things about this book and some of the books that are out there. But why this book particularly should be widely read, because it lays those grounds, those facts out.</p>
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<p>And as I said earlier, these are some of the things which, when I first began to be reckoned were really important to me, was if there’s a fiction that’s being perpetuated here and that’s being blown out of the water, as is evidenced by this information, what else am I being told that isn’t true?</p>
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<p>So it begins the whole process, and it’s like a flower opening and you see all the petals. Yeah. So just again, I mean, I don’t think there was anything specifically in this book that I thought:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Oh, I didn’t know that!”</span></h3>
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<p>Only because I’ve had my nose in this topic for such a long time. But this book brings it all together in a very succinct and clear and concise way and presents it in a structured and deliberate ladder of information that you can follow to reach some kind of understanding of the events and truth.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you. Sally, if you’re still with us and you’re still able to hear us, you summed it up perfectly earlier, saying, if every boomer read this, it would have sort of changed the world. How much of this was new to you?</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> How much of it was new to me? Yeah, I’m here. A lot of <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> was the propaganda that the war generation grew up. Sunday afternoon, there’d be a film on TV, a black and white film. And it was all about the concentration camps and the war and how noble the British were and how evil the Germans were. <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> That’s actually what I would call the book, it’s the other side. The book is the title, because I wouldn’t buy that book if I saw it in the shop. <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> It is the other side of the story, not just the other side to it. It’s why it happened, how things happened, and also the propaganda and deceit, which those <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> what it was and what was going on. Although there were clues, and I would ask questions that they <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> even by my own parents, because they needed to believe the lie, because they suffered.</p>
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<p>So everybody was invested in perpetuating the myth of lies. They wanted to perpetuate that. So as a child, you were silenced. I hope you heard all that?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> We did. We did. Natty, again, you’re somebody who’s very well read. How much of this was sort of new to you? And which bits did you feel were the most Illuminating? Because for me, as I said, it was the sort of First World War was the bits which I didn’t really have full knowledge of, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, well, the First World War, again, is this like massive conflagration, that had world changing impacts in the aftermath of it.</p>
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<p>But again, it pales, given what happened in the Second World War, it’s become less important, especially given the direction of Western countries, Europe, the United States, Australia, South Africa. So less is said about it. But given what actually happened and the aftermath of the First World War, it’s certainly something that when you start saying to people:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Well, if you really want to understand the modern world, you need to look at the Second World War.”</span></h3>
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<p>And for people in the know, they’ll say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Well, it’s earlier than that you know, it’s the First World War.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then, you know, someone will come along and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“No, no, no! It started with “<em>X</em>”, the expulsion of these people from this, &#8230;”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, whatever.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:29]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But the First World War certainly is pivotal. I’m going to read a part of the book here. That talks about the aftermath of the First World War. And Benton says this:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“The generalised belief was replaced by a feeling of pessimism and cynicism. There was a feeling that Europe had been profoundly and permanently damaged, a feeling that turned out to be highly pertinent. In retrospect, ancient empires, the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Russian, and German, crumbled as a result of the war.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I’ll just add, myself, that I think the British Empire suffered because of the First World War:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“These empires had been a source of political and social stability, and now chaos reigned throughout Europe. The Paris Peace Conference, after the war, did a very imperfect job of putting it back together again.”</span></h3>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“It is clear from the perspective of today that World War One precipitated an irreversible decline in Western civilisation.”</span></h3>
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<p>So these great empires and great nations of Europe and the control of parts of the world were stable.</p>
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<p>And then all of a sudden, this kind of mass hysteria, mass propaganda, happens, and we end up killing each other in the millions on what’s known as an industrial scale slaughter, artillery shells and machine guns and gas and all the rest of it. And in the wake of that, the continent is devastated! And what follows from it is all these social changes and all this chaos.</p>
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<p>I mean, there’s a chapter in here about the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, which is a story into itself. But all of this leads into the Second World War, which probably cements the changes that were on the cards during the First World War. And obviously, this book goes into post Second World War, which is also covered in Hellstorm.</p>
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<p>And, I mean, there are other books that cover other areas of, you know, expand on things that are chaptered in this book. Like I said, the Bolshevik Revolution. You could read the Gulag Archipelago, maybe, for that. Hellstorm covers the retreat of the Germans from Russia in the east and what happened to the Germans after the war in a little bit more detail. And a lot of, like Bill said, David Irving covers a lot of Hitler and what the Nazi high command was doing at the time.</p>
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<p>But this book is fantastic! It gives a great overview of things that led up to the First World War all the way through and things that were happening and decisions that were being made that fed into everything that resulted from that conflict.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:26]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Now, looking over this book and having enjoyed it so much, I think the book essentially stitches together a lot of pieces of history, because people often talk about the First World War, the Second World War, but this stitches it all together and also includes information about the Russian Revolution, the Red Terror, the founding or the beginning of the founding of the state of Israel, as well. It covers information about the Balfour Declaration.</p>
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<p>Now, when I was looking through this and we touched on this earlier, I really, really enjoyed the pictures. And I really, really enjoyed the sort of these annotated. Well, there’s just so many sort of, so many pictures, drawings, pieces of propaganda.</p>
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<p>And you can see when you look over this book that it draws all these different pieces together, and it allows the reader to see this not as a series of sort of isolated one offs, but as a concerted effort to demonise the German people, and specifically to also demonise nationalism. So Germans became the sort of avatars of, you know, nationalists in Europe, and they were demonised for that to a great degree.</p>
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<p>And I think people have, you know, seen snippets of this. But to see it all pulled together in one place and to see the people behind it and to see those people named, and often to see pictures of those people sat together, because it’s very easy to give people lists of names. And if you’re new to this, to just be given a list of names of people who are involved is one thing, but to be given an image showing all those people sitting together at a conference arranging these very things, I think, is also incredibly important!</p>
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<p>And then to juxtapose the information that we’ve been fed about German villainy and place it next to a genuine information about the Red Terror, about the Gulags, I think that places a lot of things in context as well. And this book does a brilliant job of placing everything that people may have been taught or may have heard as separate individual pieces and putting them into a larger context.</p>
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<p>Now, obviously, when you were editing this, Dave, and putting this together, was that your intention, to bring all this into one place, contextualise it, and ensure that people saw this bigger picture?</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> No, I went into the project not knowing what to expect.</p>
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<p>And like I said, it took about three years. I was interrupted by, of course, my hospitalisation from what is known as Covid for four months. But I jumped right back in it after I addressed another book that we had put out that I had begun before the hospitalisation. But no, I went into it without knowing what to expect. And it just evolved the way that it did.</p>
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<p>Of course, a lot of time was spent on selecting these photographs and finding the ones that I thought might best represent the text on that particular page. So many hours are spent going through photographs. And Ben did have a lot of photographs of Hitler with children and all of his adoring fans to show how the Germans thought about him.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Of course, we’re pretty much all familiar with that, and it’s a fantastic thing to look at. But I didn’t want to place an inordinate number of those type of photos in there. I just wanted to, as you all have mentioned, select photographs that were applicable to what was being discussed and perhaps some that we might not be that familiar with.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Bill, obviously people talk about the Second World War as being a critical turning point in the history of Europe, and that’s something we all know. And I often say, I mean, I was at the Awakening Conference in Finland this weekend, and when we talk to anyone about modern Britain and about what is known as liberal democracy, that is something that has essentially grown post Second World War. We look back and we say the Second World War cemented all this, and in many ways it did.</p>
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<p>But I think this book puts into context that the plans for this liberal democracy and the sort of taking away of the power of indigenous Europeans, those wheels were set in motion a long, long time before the Second World War even broke out. And this book really placed that in context for me. How would you approach that?</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Yeah. Yes, I agree. Does that sound better now? I’m not clicking or making strange noises.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, no, the clicking is gone.</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Yeah. It’s just because I’m an old bugger. Okay. That’s what it is. And I had the cable wrapped around my headphone.</p>
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<p>You’re absolutely right, Mark. It’s so important that these things are laid out as, rather than being event X happened at this date, event Y happened at this date, and event Z happened at this date. It demonstrates the kind of interlinked and the causality of different events and how they culminated in certain events. And that’s what this book is very good at painting, that picture. But there’s something else, which I think is why it succeeds so well in terms of presenting that kind of mosaic of information. It’s the tone of the writer, and I’m sure Dave had a hand in that, in terms of developing the way that texts work together.</p>
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<p>But, you know, he says things about, for example, when he talks about communism, for example, he says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“The obvious flaw in communist ideology was that it defied human nature, moreover, it defied common sense.”</span></h3>
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<p>You know, he says these things in very clear, very concise and demonstrably true manner.</p>
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<p>And then in the chapter, when he’s talking about Nuremberg, he concludes about the way that the trial was prosecuted:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“If these standards had been applied at Nuremberg, all sides would have been guilty of war crimes.”</span></h3>
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<p>Very straightforward, simple sentence, and underlines everything that’s come before. So he has this ability to say things in a very clear, direct, straightforward way.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And I think that’s one of the most attractive things about this book, is the prose of the writer himself. I did mention this earlier, but this idea that it is presented in a way which is immediately digestible. And these facts are kind of woven together so that we don’t just see the picking over the carcass of a particular event at a particular specific time, but rather the kind of tsunami that rolled into town in the early 20th century and whose fatal flooding has continued to affect our civilisation ever since.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Sally, how does this place things into context for you? Because, I mean, you and I have known each other for some time now, and it’s one of those things where you do believe that the Second World War was this pivotal moment.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think people really realise how long these changes were building and how long this plan stretched back even before the First World War.</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Yeah, really, the book was a revelation for me. We grew up with so much of it and how righteous we were and how wicked the Germans were. And I felt so guilty already just reading the book. Like when I was a child you looked down your noses on them and you very rarely saw any. But I just so happened to have a <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> as a child, and she was a wicked cow! Real wicked cow! And now I understand why. Yeah, we look down on noses at them, even as early twenties, and if you met a German kraut, we called them “<em>krauts</em>”. And, yeah, I feel guilty. Guilty <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> because I’ve been so deceived. I’ve bought into everything that I’m taught and grown up with, and the book, <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> it’s a fantastic book!</p>
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<p>When I read these books for the book club and I write down any questions I have or something to make sense, but when I did write down <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> and the question within two or three, it answers everything that you ever wanted to know. If I just answered your question mark. But the yeah, the book is a revelation. Other people, other boomers should read it. Well if you could convince someone to read it, but then the title would put a lot of the boomers off. It is such a such a good book. I’m still flabbergasted by it!</p>
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<p>And I read it a couple of months ago. It really is. And, yeah, I’ll pass now.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Natty, what’s your thoughts about the way this pulls everything together? And then we’re going to move on to a slightly different topic that I think is very important.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, it’s a well presented narrative.</p>
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<p>I mean, I’m happy to move on. You guys have covered everything that’s you’ve said about the way this book’s presented.</p>
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<p>I will say this. It’s one thing to hear about propaganda against Germans in the First World War and the early in the outbreak of the Second World War and the times in between. And propaganda today looks a bit different and is more sophisticated.</p>
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<p>But there are pictures in here of and they’re drawings. They’re not photographs, obviously, this is back in the First World War, where photographs would have been prohibitively expensive. But pictures of German soldiers bayoneting babies or crucifying allied soldiers to trees in the First World War, or dragging women off when they’re marching through Belgium to whip up this frenzy of hate against German people. Whereas that just hadn’t existed before on the outbreak of the First World War.</p>
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<p>It’s almost like a switch is flipped, and all of this stuff gets produced, and all of a sudden, without any., &#8230; You know, you’ve got to remember this is a time without Internet. No counter narrative was available. All of a sudden, people., &#8230; And, it’s hard to know how suckered in by this people were or how much control there was and whether people were resistant to this or not. I’m sure a lot of people would have been, but simply there was no voice for that kind of dissent. Although maybe I’m wrong about that. And you could look into archives and newspaper cuttings and find journalists and newspapers who were sceptical of these claims of the evil of Germany. But just all prevailing, all pervasive and totally.</p>
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<p>I don’t know, it’s crazy to think about how effective but crude that propaganda was and how different it is to propaganda from today. But I’m happy to move on. And I know I haven’t really answered your question, but to see it in the illustrations in this book is something else, really impressive.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, you’ve kind of taken me on to the topic I wanted to speak about next, because we’re coming up to the hour and we’ve got some Superchats. If people do want a Superchat, please do consider sending a small donation. If you want to say something about the book or ask any questions to the panel.</p>
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<p>But I will say this, reading this book in the current context of the modern geopolitical struggles going on in this very moment was very, very interesting. And it was very, very interesting because at the moment, there are two conflicts. There is the conflict in the Ukraine, and there is the conflict in occupied Palestine.</p>
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<p>And as you flick through this book, you see some, well, images and words and phrases and propaganda that alludes to a certain picture of Germans, and the Germans were obviously the enemies at this time.</p>
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<p>So you see pictures of Germans pretending to be normal soldiers as they stand over the bodies of women that they’ve just mutilated. You see pictures of German nurses who apparently would rather pour water on the floor than give it to a wounded allied soldier. There are pictures of Germans bayoneting children or walking or marching with children impaled on their bayonets. There are pictures of Germans crucifying allied soldiers or dragging away girls set to the background of villages or towns on fire.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:26]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So the Germans are all always portrayed as these murderous brutes who not only are almost sort of like Orcish, if you were to put it into sort of a the writings of Tolkien, these are sort of Orcs, and Orcs in Tolkien’s writings are absolutely inhuman! You know, they don’t think like us. They’re not like us, and they should never be treated like us. They’re a different breed, a different creature. And that’s what Germans were sort of written up like.</p>
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<p>But if you take all of that and you look at the propaganda surrounding both the conflict in the Ukraine and the conflict in occupied Palestine, it’s almost amazing, because, you know, from the First World War, we’re now over 100 years on from the end of that war. But the propaganda used to make Britons and the other allied nations hate the Germans is almost identical to the propaganda we see today around the war in the Ukraine and Israel’s wholesale genocide of the Palestinian people, which is incredible!</p>
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<p>So you hear today about Palestinians butchering babies, you know, roasting them in ovens, and every day, the number of babies that were apparently either beheaded or carried off, you know, grows. But that’s exactly what the same people were saying about the Germans.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> And we’re supposed to believe that Russian soldiers today, who are fighting on the front lines in Ukraine, if given the opportunity, would storm across Europe and kill us all in our beds and subjugate us to the most terrible tyranny and also believe that Palestinians hate us for some ridiculous reasons that were never solidified.</p>
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<p>And like I said, sometimes the propaganda is crude, and sometimes it’s sophisticated. But you see this whole network of today, these supposedly Right-wing influencers and stuff like this, trying to reinforce these narratives as in some cases, more heavily favouring Israel, and in some cases, on the Left or progressive side, more favouring the Ukrainians <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Palestinians]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p>But in both cases, we’re supposed to believe that people who have nothing to do with us and don’t know us from Adam, are kind of eternal enemies and are ontologically evil and would do terrible things to us, given the opportunity. And it’s simply not true! And it wasn’t true of the Germans, either.</p>
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<p>But it’s the same propaganda machine, the same people telling us these things, and it’s ridiculous! As soon as you start to scratch beneath the surface and look at the realities of conflict and land and control and governments and policies, it’s just absurd on its face. Palestinians don’t hate me. Why would they? They probably hate my government. Russians don’t hate me and don’t want to take over my country. They’re engaged in a kind of empire expansion, or a quest to take back natural resources.</p>
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<p>These are questions that are answerable, and there’s questions, and there’s policies like that that revolve around the First World War and the Second World War. But to expand it into people being evil enough to do something that is kind of almost religiously bad, is just insane! And it’s insane to anyone who’s capable of making their brain cells fire more than you need just to watch the new Netflix, you know, series or whatever.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> You’re right, Natty. And, it’s absolutely what you’ve said there is spot on! It’s an absolute case of “<em>Plus Les choses changent, plus elles restent Les mêmes</em>”. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And there is that historical echo. The same fallacies are trotted out, and the same number of people believe them, unfortunately. These things are., &#8230;</p>
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<p>There’s an example of the power of this propaganda is, if I can just deviate very slightly, but there’s a Welshman, a writer called Arthur Machen*, who wrote a story called The Bowman, in 1914. And it’s a fictional story about how, during an attack at Mons, Agincourt bowman arrive and shoots spectral arrows into the air and stops the German advance and so on.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* Arthur Machen (3 March 1863 – 15 December 1947) was the pen-name of Arthur Llewellyn Jones, a Welsh author and mystic of the 1890s and early 20th century. He is best known for his influential supernatural, fantasy, and horror fiction. His novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894) has Garnered a reputation as a classic of horror, with Stephen King describing it as “<em>Maybe the best <span style="color: #008000;">[horror story]</span> in the English language.</em>” <span style="color: #008000;">[2]</span> He is also well known for “<em>The Bowmen</em>”, a short story that was widely read as fact, creating the legend of the Angels of Mons. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And people believed this story, that it was published in the press, and it was published as a piece of fiction, but people implicitly believed it.</p>
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<p>And in fact, Machen would receive letters saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“What was your source? What happened? How did you find this information?”</span></h3>
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<p>He got a letter from a clergyman about this, and he had to say to the clergyman:</p>
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<p>And to the point where the clergyman wrote back to him and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“No, you’re mistaken. It’s real. It must be real! What’s your source?”</span></h3>
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<p>So this is the problem you have with propaganda.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Does Dave, or well, Sally’s not commented yet. Sally, would you like to say anything about this? Because I’m going to ask Dave a few questions in a second. Sally, what are your thoughts on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> About?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yes, about propaganda.</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Well, as far as propaganda is concerned, I think I realised that what the telly told you was a lie, and I cancelled my TV licence and actually haven’t watched TV since. And I stopped consuming mainstream <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> or buying and reading their news. Sometimes I keep an eye on what’s going on, or what they are, but I know now, and I’ve known for a few years, and probably that’s the difference, that are still people believing it.</p>
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<p>Yet the power of propaganda is, it’s deceit, isn’t it? It’s just all about deceiving you into going with what they want you to believe. And the war generations they were invested in it. And that they invested their lives, <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span>. Would have been awful for them to realise the truth! It really would. So they had to invest in the propaganda, and <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> Russians, and it was a righteous war, and the Germans are evil. They needed that. Otherwise, if they realised what they’d really done., &#8230; And they’re all dead now, aren’t they? It goes to the next generations, if they ever find out.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you. Dave?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:03:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yes.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I mean, obviously, you do your own show and you publish many books. Do you think this book, at this point in history, is something that carries a more pressing message because of this? I mean, I think we were discussing this briefly before the show and whether we were going to go into this.</p>
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<p>And obviously we have got here, and I was thinking about it as we were talking about generally what the book was about.</p>
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<p>But I do think the issues in this book today are as relevant as they ever were. And how do you view this? Because, I mean, ultimately, they’ve been telling exactly the same lies now for almost a century. Well, for over a century.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Right. Yes. And that actually is., &#8230; Well, before I say that, just let me say that I’m floored by all of your comments about how much you love the book, because, as I mentioned, I poured a lot of work into it, and it’s great to hear that, especially from this group, that you all loved it! So thank you. Means a lot to me.</p>
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<p>And Tom Goodrich of Hellstorm, he wrote the foreword. As you know, I wanted to mention that earlier, and the cover was done by a close colleague of mine, Paul Angel from the Barnes Review, an American Free Press, we have worked together for going on about 20 years, and he’s a terrific guy. And it took us a while to come up with this cover. It was one of those covers that we really weren’t quite sure about which direction we would go in. And this was what we settled on, and I think it came out very well.</p>
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<p>But as far as this topic and how it relates to today and what you and I, Mark, had touched upon briefly was that with all of the stuff happening since we first talked about doing this book review, it’s almost like the discussion of a book like this, a historical book like this, would be viewed as something pedestrian or staid.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:05:34]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Maybe the main attraction that I have to history is what you had touched upon earlier is that everything’s the same. And the reason that everything’s the same, I think, is that people don’t change. One could read The Iliad and The Odysee, written thousands and thousands of years ago, and it’s almost as if you’re hearing about something that occurred in your life in the current day, because human nature doesn’t change!</p>
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<p>And I think a book like this is very important, as are many other history books, because they reveal that what happened over 100 years ago, the people who were manipulating and deceiving with their propaganda are doing the same exact thing today at a different target.</p>
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<p>So I think that if someone picks up this book and if it gives them just that, the understanding that there really is nothing new under the sun, that all of this was done before, not just in the 19th and, 200th century centuries, but thousands of years ago, because human nature doesn’t change.</p>
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<p>So besides giving one the knowledge that I feel is necessary to understanding this particular topic, it also gives the reader the ability to get a greater grasp on human nature and how that stays constant throughout the ages. So, yes, I think that although we are confronted with currently much, much different challenges than you might read about in The Myth of German Villainy, they are all tied together and they can’t be separated.</p>
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<p>In fact, it might be that someone gaining the knowledge of the propaganda and manipulation that took place during the First World War and the Second World War and continues to take place via the you know, there’s plenty of terms for the media, but, you know, one of one of my recent favourites is the “<em>lying legacy media</em>”. The lying legacy media, I think, is really the biggest culprit for the dumbing down and kept in the dark propaganda for the public. And that ties into people like us who are looking for answers outside of what the lying legacy media is spewing.</p>
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<p>People like us are in the stark minority. You know, I refer to people like us as mutants because we are not afraid to entertain any thought or idea, whereas the masses, who can’t. If you told them that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I’ve been looking into the history of this and of World War Two, and I just I don’t think that Hitler was as bad of a guy as they tell us he is.”</span></h3>
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<p>You know, most people would recoil in horror because of how they’ve been programmed.</p>
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<p>So these are the people. And I mean, like, 99.999% of humanity cannot entertain an original thought, an original idea. If it goes off course from what they’ve been programmed, they are going to have a violent reaction to it.</p>
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<p>So I don’t think we can wait. And I’m going a little off topic here, but I think it ties into it.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think we could wait for them to catch up to us. I think we just have to steam ahead and try to get the important information, like we’re talking about today, to as many open minds as possible.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I just want to push back on that a little bit, Dave, because I think that after October 7 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2023, Hamas attacking the Israelis]</strong></span> and for Americans, maybe a little bit more so, the amount of money that’s being sent to Ukraine, I think that people are becoming more receptive to jewish power or jewish over representation and nepotism in a way that I haven’t seen before.</p>
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<p>And I’m not sure. Maybe you’re going to tell me:</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> No, I agree with you 100%. Absolutely! Yeah, 100%. As a matter of fact, I predicted what would happen in 2022. I thought it was going to happen in 2020, but then they rolled out that Covid thing.</p>
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<p>But in 2022, I predicted that 2023 would be our best year and, 20024 would be even better than that. And the reason I did was because I saw things happening. And at the time I said that in 2022, none of my colleagues agreed with me, none saw it.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying that I’m some kind of a seer and that I have great, you know, predictive abilities, but I did see it. And it was obvious to me because of what was happening, how people were responding, the comments that were, in posts.</p>
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<p>And I’m not an “<em>anti-social media</em>” guy or social media guy, which I call “<em>anti-social media</em>” because that’s what it is. I’m not a social media guy. But I did see a post that somebody brought to my attention on X. And it was this vampire like character from the ADL, Greenblatt, who, you know, had spewed some filth about Leo Frank and saying he was exonerated. And this was the first time I actually read comments on a post.</p>
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<p>And this was last year, and the post was made in March of last year. And I read every comment. There were about two to 300. And there was only one that said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“My God, I’m jewish! You have to tell these people off!”</span></h3>
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<p>Something like that. All the rest were saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“What are you talking about? You guys framed that black guy!”</span></h3>
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<p>And going on and on. When those sort of opinions are allowed in the public square, which they were and are now, it was very clear to me that there was a huge seismic shift in the understanding of organised international jewry and, of course, that imaginary jewish power. And we are in the middle of a great awakening that has never before happened!</p>
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<p>And I remember I was talking about it on the show, I do that Mark mentioned with David Duke on Sunday nights, a call in show which allows anybody from anywhere to call in and talk to the good doctor. And I brought that up about this mass awakening.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:13:39]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And, of course, as I mentioned, nobody thought that that was happening, but now everybody sees that it’s happening.</p>
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<p>And I said to David that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“You must be feeling pretty good, because what you’ve been talking about for nearly six decades is finally people are seeing what’s going on.”</span></h3>
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<p>But I’ll temper that with saying that the people who are seeing what’s going on are the “<em>mutants</em>”.</p>
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<p>So these are the ones who are already susceptible to accepting pretty much anything. It’s just that now it’s so obvious that they were like, wow, I can’t ignore this anymore. So I still think that those, the 99.999%, because we’re a very tiny number, our group of mutants, that 99.99% is still bubbled into their lying legacy media programming.</p>
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<p>But I do think we are in a great awakening.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Sure. Yeah. I do agree with that, and there are a few things to watch out for. I know you say we’re a tiny amount of people, but we for the most part, have remained laser focused on this issue.</p>
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<p>And I think it really does help. You know, if you could think about motes of dust surrounding us being pulled in and pulled into that laser as well. And there are a lot of distractions. You know, aliens are now apparently a thing, and the Illuminati and, you know whatever else, whatever else can be a distraction.</p>
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<p>But I think for the most part, people like us in larger ways, like you and your publishing house, and sometimes in tiny, small ways, like us doing this podcast and this book review, and millions and millions, which is small in the grand scheme of things. People on places like Twitter and on social media sharing memes and ideas and talking and being dissidents, is forcing people who are trying to hold the tiller into swinging very slowly in this direction.</p>
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<p>And to make another point, there are so many inroads into this now. Like I said, the liberal progressive people are suddenly finding out that Israel and the jewish power structure has carved out an exception to, if not genocide, ethnic cleansing at the very least. And they don’t like it. And now they have this inroad into:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Well, why is there this exception?”</span></h3>
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<p>And they start asking questions like that. And it’s only going to lead to one place. And for the American Right, for the kind of the much lauded and shat upon boomers, their money, their tax money is being sent to Israel like never before, and the Ukraine, which for those people is a country on the other side of the world, but shouldn’t be receiving their money.</p>
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<p>So all of these otherwise disparate groups are being forced to look into this issue and confront it and start asking questions if they have any desire to enact some sort of political change. Which I know is extremely hard, and we all know that here.</p>
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<p>But I don’t think it’s not nothing. I’ll say that.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> No, no, it’s not. It’s something.</p>
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<p>But I think we’re at a point now, and I’ve mentioned this several times on shows in private and publicly, that we can literally kick back a little bit because now the unhinged Left is doing our job for us. And we see that happening.</p>
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<p>So it’s a great time to be alive because all of the stuff that we focused on, in our group, if I can call it that, is the most educated group out there, because again, it goes back to not being afraid to entertain any idea or thought. So we are interested in learning. We want to dig into things. And yes, there are a lot of distractions. Flat earth, aliens, the Illuminati, Hitler was a Rothschild, all that stuff.</p>
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<p>One of the things that keeps me going is that I feel like I do have that. And I’ll borrow your term “<em>laser focus</em>” on what I’m trying to do. And I don’t let this stuff distract me. And I don’t., As Sally was saying, I don’t watch television. I haven’t watched it since 1991, when my first son was born. I have no interest in it. I have no interest in the jew’s media, or whatever you want to call it. I tangentially look at it, but I know what they’re going to say, of course.</p>
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<p>So the good news is that media is dying! But you’ve got people like Joe Rogan and his ilk who refuse to, or are unaware of what is really happening, and they don’t go to that next step.</p>
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<p>So I really think that people like us, it is an incredibly small, minuscule group, but it’s those small groups who have changed history.</p>
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<p>I mean, I’ll use, you know what you all created, your ancestors created this nation here. And it was only about 8,000 Patriots with a capital “<em>P</em>” who were organising the rebellion against their British overlords. Because of what we mentioned earlier, taxation without representation, nothing has changed. They went against all the odds to defeat the greatest empire in history. So I’m certainly not saying that we cannot win. If I woke up every day and sat down at my desk and thought that I wouldn’t wake up, I just give up.</p>
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<p>So I have high hopes. I think that in America, we’re taught that, or at least we were when I grew up – I was born in 1960 – that anybody could be the president.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we’ve seen that happen. Anybody could do anything that they want to do. I’m a firm believer in that. I’ve experienced that. I’ve done things that I still can’t believe I’ve done them. I don’t think it was myself doing. I think I had help, but I think that we can do anything. And if we don’t think that way, we sell ourselves and those around us short!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think we should all believe that we can achieve victory.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I believe that we can!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:21:20]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you. Some inspiring words there, Dave.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is the part of the show where I really want to throw it open to Bill, Sally and Natty. I’ve done a lot of speaking. Are there anything, is there anything in the book that you guys would like to particularly focus on or bring up or anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or maybe something in the book that was missed? So, Bill, is there anything you’d like to bring up?</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Well, I don’t know whether it’s something that you might have missed, but there’s a particular quote in chapter 13, which is by an English Daily Express reporter, and it’s quite a lengthy quote. But it’s very interesting as an insight into how Germany was perceived in the thirties before things swung around.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, for example, this is six months after Germany’s militarisation and the incursions of the Rhineland and a month after the Olympics. And he writes things like this:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“There is, for the first time since the war, a general sense of security.”</span></h3>
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<p>Speaking, obviously, about Germany:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirits throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere. An Englishman I met during my trip and who knew Germany well, were very impressed with the changes.”</span></h3>
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<p>And he goes on to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“It impressed me more than anything I witnessed during my short visit to New Germany, a powerful revivalist atmosphere, an extraordinary effect in unifying the nation.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then he goes on to say about all the different types of Germans who have brought together, Bavarians and northerners and so on.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Wait, Bill, can you imagine anybody walking around England today and asking any Englishman and getting that impression? I don’t think so.</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Absolutely! Absolutely! And there’s this sense that we have this lens that has been calcified in the years since 1945, and that was still fluid and it was still moving before that period. And but we still have documentation like this to look at and to access and say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Well, actually, there was this idea that there was this, you know, we’re showing all the television dramas and films and movies, and there’s the coming storm and all this kind of thing, and everybody’s gloomy, and everyone thinks that there’s a terrible evil rising in the east.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s just not the case. There isn’t this kind of Sauron like monster rising in the east. You know, people didn’t see it in that sense. This is a post-war painting. And just looking at things like that, just looking at that, just very simple series of quotes from that particular period really underlines that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:24:16]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of the things which when I was teaching, I used to say to students before lectures was “<em>question received wisdom</em>”. That sounds in some ways to be a negative thing. You say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Well, you don’t question tradition and so on.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But actually, we were getting students, kids who had done A levels and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Their minds had been so constricted and narrowed that all of a sudden I was saying to them:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: purple;">“Well, actually, no, you can question this. You’re allowed to question this. There’s these narratives.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I would try and red pill them and show them things and talk about things, and to a degree, got across to them that, it’s okay to actually question these narratives that we’ve been fed because I mean, the classic one thing I said was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: purple;">“When we’re looking at history, we are allowed to question all kind of interpretations of was Henry VIII the good king? Was Henry the bad king? And so on. But there’s one period in history we’re not allowed to question, and why do you think that is?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, so I just pose questions to them and leave them to think about, to cogitate a little bit on that. And that’s what this book does in the sense it kind of breaks through that calcification and allows that kind of marinade in information which wouldn’t normally be denied to them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think coming back to what Dave and Natty were saying about the propaganda war and in terms of the shift, we have this thing, the Internet, and as constricted and as restricting as it has become, in some ways, we’re streaming on Odysee and not YouTube, for example.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At the same time, it’s a barrel with too many holes in it, and they can’t plug all the leaks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I think what this book does is it provides buckshot to knock through some of those barrels and let some of the water out.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Sally, is there anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or anything that you’d like to bring up?</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Right. My dog might bark because there’s a fox outside.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There is. I mean, for me, the thing, I just keep thinking about mine <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> and I think I’ve covered it already. I don’t want to repeat myself, but we weren’t taught about the war. We were given films on <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> no one talked. The parents didn’t talk about it. The school didn’t talk about it. And I grew up why the war happened? And I used to ask my father:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: deeppink;">“Did you go to war to save jews?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what I thought they went to. He didn’t really answer me, but I presumed it. So I thought it was about saving the jews. I had no idea, even till.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this book, it’s just all there and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s such an eye opener. It explains every little thing. I wish I’d had it, you know, when I was a child. It would have. <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> Yeah, well, I’ve just written down, we were brought up in total ignorance, that generation. And to go forth, and my father used to say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: deeppink;">“Go! We had to suffer. Enjoy it. Enjoy your life!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think that was the case for all the boomers:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: deeppink;">“Go forth, because we never had any <span style="color: #008000;">[words unclear]</span> go forth and enjoy the world.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because our parents and our grandparents, &#8230; So that’s me making excuses for the boomers, although I know that they’re kind of irredeemable, but they don’t know what I know. Yeah, I’ll stop now, Mark.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:28:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Well, you’re quite right, Sally.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think and I speak to my dear old mum, who’s in her eighties, and then she’s got a very fixed eye idea of that period in history and, you know, won’t move on it in many ways. But that generation is the old generation, and that’s very different amongst Zoomers and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think there’s a very different attitude that’s growing now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So, Natty, is there anything in the book that you think was missed out or anything you want to add to what we’ve said tonight? And then we’ll do the Superchats.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, there’s loads in here that I don’t think we’re going to get round to, namely the Katyn Forest massacre, which I think you’ve done a podcast, or a standalone video yourself, Mark, and I think was covered in Hellstorm. It’s not famous, normie wise, but it’s fairly well known on the Right, so maybe it’s not worth going into. But I will just note that initially the allies blamed the Germans for the Katyn Forest massacre, in which something like 26,000 of the Polish, the elite, the kind of cream of Polish society, a cream of Polish men, officers and educators and teachers and stuff, were executed, turned out to be the Bolsheviks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The second thing, this book also goes into Dresden, which we’ve covered before. I know we’ve covered before, which is probably one of the worst war crimes, minus, if you set aside Hiroshima and Nagasaki, one of the worst war crimes, I think, to come out of the Second World War.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one of the things I wasn’t aware of which I’m not sure if this was covered in Hellstorm, if I’ve read it somewhere else. I don’t think I have. Was the jewish Brigade. And, Dave, you probably know about this. Mark, I’m not sure if this was something you’re aware of but essentially the book says this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“There was a jewish infantry brigade group, more commonly known as the jewish Brigade, that not many had been aware of a military formation of the British army. It was formed in late 1994 <span style="color: #008000;">[1944]</span>.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It goes on:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Using their British army credentials and uniforms, they travelled around Germany (this is after the war) and Austria, hunting down and killing high ranking German officers. They had unlimited logistical support from the British army, could requisition anything they needed and travelled anywhere in Germany or Austria. They had all of Germany’s official records, which the allies had given them, obviously.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:31:36]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And these guys were, like, hell bent on executing people just for being in charge of groups of soldiers. There’s a quote here:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“One of the jewish executioners, Israel Kami, explained in Beckman’s book how they dealt with their selected targets. When we arrived at the home of our suspects, we were put on British military police helmets, wore white bands and police armlets. Then we would enter the home and take the suspect with us, saying that we wanted them for interrogation. Usually they came without struggle. Once in the car, we told the prisoner who we were and why we took him. Some admitted guilt. (He doesn’t say guilt of what) Others kept silent. We did the job. We were burning with hatred. We knew that our people would never forgive us if we did not exploit this opportunity to kill nazis.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What he really means is kill Germans. I wasn’t aware of that you know, that’s a British, supposedly a British brigade, a British army unit operating after the Second World War, going around and executing soldiers who had surrendered. There’s so many things like that about the Second World War that just fill you with revulsion and sickness of what your own government was up to!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> It’s as if the dreadful Tarantino., &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yes, exactly. In reverse!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Yeah, absolutely!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. There’s so many things like that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, this is going off on a tangent a little bit, but there’s a lot of instances in the media doing that kind of thing, switching up the sides. So Inglourious Basterds <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2009]</strong></span> has this, you know, group of jews going around and killing people during the war. Well, it wasn’t, they weren’t taking prisoners in some partisan raid and carrying out daring things. They just got records and were going around extra judicially taking revenge on Germans.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And to get slightly off topic here, the same thing happened with, I’m going to forget the name of the film now, but it’s about a court case in which, oh it’s Our Time to Kill, it’s called. And it’s about a black father who kills two White kind of supremacists in the deep south after they rape his daughter. And the court case is all about the lawyer trying to get this black father off because you probably aren’t going to be judged too harshly for killing those two men.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it turns out that the case was entirely reversed, and it was actually two black guys who had raped a young White girl. And that was the case that John Grisham had based the book off, which was the film was based off. That’s just an aside, but it just goes to show you the power of propaganda and what media can do.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:34:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yeah. A pure jewish piece of propaganda! Screenplay by Akiva Goldsman, produced by Arnon Milchan.*</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* A Time to Kill is a 1996 American legal drama film based on John Grisham’s 1989 novel of the same name. Sandra Bullock, Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, and Kevin Spacey star with Donald and Kiefer Sutherland appearing in supporting roles and Octavia Spencer in her film debut. The film received mixed reviews but was a commercial success, making $152 million world-wide. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p>And of course, that’s that jewish Israeli spy who up until now has gotten off the hook with all the spying he did for Israel here in the United States.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you. Let’s do some of these Superchats. We will go through these and then we’ll give our final thoughts on the book. Open borders for Israel gave $5. Thank you so much, my friend. And thank you so much for your continued support. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Hey, Mark, would you consider doing a review of any Lothrop Stoddard’s books?”</span></h3>
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<p>I’m not sure what they are:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I recommend The Rising Tide of Colour Against White World Supremacy*. It was written in the 1920s and predicted a massive number of non-Whites coming to the West.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I haven’t actually heard of that, but thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy (1920), by Lothrop Stoddard, is a book about racialism and geopolitics, which describes the collapse of White supremacy and colonialism because of the population growth among people of colour, rising nationalism in colonised nations, and industrialisation in China and Japan. To counter the perceived geopolitical threat, Stoddard advocated Nordicism, racial segregation, and general racism, restricting non-white immigration into white-majority countries, restricting immigration of non-members of the “<em>Nordic race</em>” to countries primarily containing members of the “<em>Nordic race</em>”; restricting Asian migration to Africa; and slowly giving independence to European colonies in Asia (including the Middle East). A noted eugenicist, Stoddard supported a separation of the “<em>primary races</em>” of the world and warned against miscegenation, the mixing of the races. Source: Wikipedia]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I had it. I had a quick look at that, Mark. And Wikipedia is probably not a good source, but it seems that Stoddard had some other ideas, like we talked about earlier, that went off the rails slightly, but it might be worth looking into.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, I’ll have a look into that. And thank you for the Superchat. D salon seven gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Here in America, German villainy did not exist before 1916.”</span></h3>
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<p>Now, this is a really good point. I don’t know if Dave wants to comment on this briefly. He says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any of the context, this would be called a mass atrocity.”</span></h3>
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<p>Would you like to comment on that, Dave?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fact that America was once a lot of German representation and that was basically stamped out.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:36:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yeah, a lot of this stuff, personally, I get angry about it. But yes, there was, there still is a huge German population here in America. And unfortunately, because of the propaganda and who spews it, yeah, the Germans were wholesale looked upon as the enemy. And the people who control the media have had it out for these poor folks for a long time. And they still do, obviously.</p>
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<p>So that’s why it’s incumbent on us in our positions, in our individual and group positions, to make sure that we do whatever we can to get the proper information out to as many people as possible, not knowing who we’re going to impact, but knowing that we are, in fact, having a great impact, especially now.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much, Andy Great Story. Good to see you tonight, my friend. Again, $10. He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The award section of Money Tree Publishing is fantastic! Exemplary awards!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, thank you, my friend. And obviously, if you want this book, please do go to Money Tree Publishing. The link is in the description below. It takes you to where you can purchase this second edition of the book.</p>
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<p>And I believe that’s exclusive to Money Tree Publishing. I couldn’t find it anywhere else.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yeah, it is, Mark, I just want to say first two things. One is the awards section. I named it “<em>Awards</em>” because that was if you go to Money Tree publisher and you look on the menu, you’ll see it says Awards. And what that is that was the award I was given by the Anti-Defamation League. So thank you again, ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt!</p>
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<p>Now in the United States, and yes, it is exclusive just to us, and we carry a lot of banned books and exclusive products. But the way that the US postal system works, the United States, Postal Service, is that currently the US government is subsidizing China.</p>
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<p>And of course, this is at the expense of countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, pretty much everywhere else.</p>
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<p>So China is getting great rates because of, obviously, economics, and they’re making everybody else pay through the nose. So if somebody from the UK went to Money Tree Publishing and, let’s say, selected the colour version of the book, the cost of the colour version is $35. The cost of the black and white is 25. The shipping to the United Kingdom is $32.58.</p>
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<p>So if you got the black and white version, the shipping would cost more than the actual book, which is really horrible, but we have no control over that.</p>
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<p>But what I will say is that if anyone from the UK wants to get the book, just go to moneytreepublishing.com and click on the contact tab and send an email to me. I’ll get it. And just have the subject line Villainy or MGV, capital M, capital G, capital V for Myth German Villainy. And just let me know you’re from the UK and I can arrange it so the shipping cost will be reduced to maybe five or six pounds sterling versus almost US$33.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:40:32]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So I can do that because we can get this printed in the UK at a facility in the UK and shipped to the UK. So that would probably help out with anyone who doesn’t., &#8230; And I can’t blame you. I wouldn’t want to pay those prices. But these books are available only from Money Tree Publishing. And when we first started in January 2017 with one book, we have never raised our prices and we don’t plan on raising the prices because the goal is just to disseminate the information. This isn’t like a typical “<em>for profit business</em>”. It’s to get this information into as many hands as possible.</p>
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<p>So we’re not focused on making money, we’re focused on educating with this material.</p>
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<p>So please go to moneytreepublishing.com, click on the contact tab, fill out that information and let us know you’re from the UK, and we’ll save you close to probably $30.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Superb. Thank you so much! It Was Made Up gave $5. Thanks so much:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just a small donation to keep the lights on. Thank you and farewell to Bill, and thank you for making me aware of Money Tree Publishing.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Robbie Herbert gave $5. Thanks so much. Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“My maternal grandmother went over the top. Sorry, maternal grandfather went over the top on the first day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men while serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself, but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! And Robbie Herbert gave another $3.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Can I break in on that Superchat? Because, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Someone mentioned this in the chat. There’s a brilliant YouTube channel <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian">https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian</a>]</strong></span> at the moment called Zoomer Historian, or I think it’s Historian Zoomer. I’m not sure it’s even which way around, but he has just produced, I think it’s almost an hour long video saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: brown;">“What would the war veterans think today? Would they have fought?”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s a really good channel and I don’t think it’s going to last long. So I’ll give it a plug here and if anyone wants to check it out, you can, because that Superchat, I think it was Rory Herbert, is very relevant to that topic, which is his latest video. So give Zoomer historian a chance if you’re on YouTube, guys.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:43:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you. Good plug there. And Rory Herbert gave another $3. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just over a year ago, I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian ambassador. Needless to say I decided not to attend. But it just goes to show how the British army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thank you so much! Zach gave an Aussie token, said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mark, please review Joe Haldeman’s Forever War.* And did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky, Patrick Satter is co-host about doing a show about PA on RBN?”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, but it is something I would like to do, so if Jeremy’s listening, I would do that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Forever War, a 1974 novel by Joe Haldeman. The Forever War is a military science fiction novel by American author Joe Haldeman, telling the contemplative story about human soldiers fighting an interstellar war against an alien civilisation known as the Taurans. It won the Nebula Award in 1975 and the Hugo and Locus awards in 1976. Forever Free and Forever Peace are, respectively, direct and thematic sequel novels. Wikipedia]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Skip Meister, 68, gave $15. Thank you so much for the kind donation, and Space Can gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What is a world of peace if it is made from the blood of innocents? Our ancestors demand an accounting for the World Wars inflicted upon us!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I agree. That is a very, very good Superchat! And we have one more Superchat that was over on, &#8230; Let me just bring it up. Where’s the where’s the other tab? It was over on Rumble and it’s for $20 from Red Pill. Thank you so much!:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank you, Mark, for all you do. I own this book. Will watch the replay. Wanted to throw you some funds, though. You’re a living legend!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, thank you for so much, my friend. Thank you for the kind words.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that is the Superchats wrapped up. We’ve got about ten minutes left, so let’s everyone give their summations of the book going around the group. Bill, Aunt Sally, Natty, then me, and then we’ll give Dave the last word. Starting with you, Bill. Go ahead, my friend.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Thank you, Mark.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I must say that I’ve been very fortunate. Every book that I’ve been involved in reviewing on the book club has been really good, and this is no exception. My grandfather was a Dunkirk veteran. He was very badly wounded at Dunkirk and invalided out for the rest of the war. Very patriotic man. Believed he was doing the right thing. Lied about his age to join up. After the war. And what he saw, the way the country was going, he was incredibly disillusioned in it. And I think, just going back to what Natty was saying about with these ex-servicemen, he certainly would have had second thoughts if he had the chance again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think this is an excellent book! It challenges the orthodox historical interpretation of events throughout recent history. The last 150 years. It does so in a very concise, direct and convincing way, and in a way that is actually very accessible. It’s very well written. It’s written in a very clear style of prose. It’s well backed up, it’s well referenced and it’s well worth buying.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:46:14]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> First of all, I want to apologise for the sound quality of me tonight. It will be fixed for the next one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And also, I want to say thank you, Bill, for being part of the book club. It’s been great having you. This book, out of all the books we’ve done, I think this is the most important book! If I could only keep one, it would be this one, alongside Hellstorm. It’s not my favourite book, but it’s the most important. When I saw it was a book about politics, I don’t like reading about politics in particular, really bore me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it was just one of those I couldn’t put it down. In fact, when I did put it down, I was then thinking, it’s a fantastic book and I can’t recommend it highly enough. Thank you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Natty.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, fantastic! Highly recommended! And, like I said, there are many books that cover various aspects, but this book is a great overview.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you are looking as someone who isn’t well read on this subject, this would be a really good place to start, and then you could branch off and dive into other topics.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just as a final note, there’s loads in this book we didn’t cover, and I’ve got quite a lot in my notes, but Dolo on Odysee says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: brown;">“Big A, (and he’s talking about Adolf Hitler) let the Dunkirk lads go.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s correct. And there’s a there’s a section in this book that covers Dunkirk, what happened and how the Brits were amazed when they found out that Hitler essentially let the entire British force go. And didn’t wipe them out and didn’t take them captive, because he was hoping that, &#8230; He had a lot of admiration for the British and was hoping that they wouldn’t pester him anymore. Unfortunately, I didn’t pan out for him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s just so many nuggets of information like that in this book, and there’s a quotation by German admiral on that subject. So, like I said, there’s loads of stuff like this in this book.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you want to find out about this pivotal period in history, this book is a very good place to start.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, well, I’m going to give my thoughts on it. I obviously really enjoyed the book. I thought it was excellent, and it went well beyond the scope of what I was expecting it to go over. It’s much bigger, much more in depth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think I went through a few of the chapter headings earlier, but here’s that again. The myth of Germany is an evil nation. The Bolshevik Revolution spreads throughout Europe, the nation of Israel, life in Germany under Hitler creating the case for war, Germany as the victim. There’s plenty in there, and it covers a real lengthy period of a tumultuous period of European history and puts it all into context.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I really recommend it. But the thing I really like about this book is its very illustrative as well. I think these books can be very heavy, especially when they’re trying to explain things. But this book stops short. It doesn’t actually explain things. It shows you them with great pictures, illustrations. All these things are annotated, and it let’s, you know exactly the kind of propaganda that the people at the time were being fed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:50:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think this book is so important at the moment because it let’s everybody know that this isn’t something new, that what we’re living through now is not unique. Our time is not something out of the ordinary. This sort of manure has been fed to our people for decades. For centuries, in fact, now. The weaponisation of propaganda to force people to go to war, to make people hate other people. This is an age old tactic. And the tactic hasn’t really changed or evolved. It’s still the same today as it was 100 years ago. Babies being beheaded, people dragging women off as they burn their homes down. And in today’s world, these things are being used every day to make British people want to go to war with Russia, to want to stand by and let Israel carpet bomb Palestinian civilians.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think this book is not only important from a historical perspective, but it helps people today place what we’re seeing within wider perspective.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, yeah, a fantastic book! Dave, is there any last words you would like to say before we shut things down?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Yeah. Thank you, of course, for having me on and headlining the book, and great to take part in this discussion, and thank you all for your kind words about the book. Like I said, it shows me that I did my job, and I’m very appreciative of that. I want to just thank you, Mark and the panelists here and your organisation for everything you are doing, because we’re all noticing what’s happening, of course, over here on this side of the pond. And we’re very sad about the direction that things are going with the stifling of freedom of speech.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Of course, we have those protections enshrined here in our constitution, thanks to, as I mentioned, your ancestors. We have the Constitution. We have the so-called Bill of Rights with the speech protections and other protections.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so we’re in a much different position, again, thanks to your country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re able to say the things that, sadly, you can’t. But we are very appreciative of what your organisation is doing, and we’re very saddened by some of the recent development with Sam and seeing the child born and him not being able to take part in that, it’s very disheartening the direction of things.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But again, I’ll say that for me, as long as I’m alive and breathing, I’m going to do whatever I can to make sure that we do have free speech.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s really what keeps me going. It’s not that I have anything against a particular race or ethnic group. It’s that being an American and being raised with the protections that we were raised with, if you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it. And I don’t want anyone telling me what I can say, when I can say it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, I can’t obviously equate this country with yours, but I can say that we’ll do whatever we can here on our side to help you guys out and make sure that you can get what we have. Thankfully, again, thanks to your great country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:54:26]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much! I think it’s been a great show tonight. I am extremely tired because I’ve been up since 03:00 am, traveling back from Finland. So I hope it’s still been a high energy show and that I’ve been coherent throughout. There’ll be more updates through the week, hopefully when pictures and speeches emerge from the event in Finland, which I hope you all enjoy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, we’ll be back next month. I’ve got to just firm up who the, whether the author of the book that we’re having on next month, so I don’t want to announce it, is free on that particular Sunday. So going forward from there. I’ll be making an announcement very shortly on that, and if it is the book we think it’s going to be, there will also be a free PDF of that, which I’ll share with everyone so people can actually read the book before, for free. So that’ll be quite exciting.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, I just like to say a huge thank you to Dave for coming on tonight. Massive thanks to Aunt Sally and Natty, but a special thanks to Bill. It’s his last episode tonight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’d like to thank him for all his hard work with the book club over the years. It’s been really great hosting with him, and I look forward to seeing him at future events. And if he ever wants to come back for a one off, he is more than welcome.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, would everyone like to say goodnight? And let’s give the last word tonight to Bill. So Sally, Natty, if you’d like to say goodnight, and then we’ll throw it over to Bill and close things down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Aunt Sally:</strong> Yeah, I just want to say good night Dave, and thank you very much for actually doing the book in the first place, because I think it’s a valuable resource for future generations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as Natty said, it’s a brief overview. It’s almost, I say, an idiot’s guide to what happened, but it’s an easy read guide to what happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I just want to thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart, for bringing it all about. Thank you for being on the show as well. Thank you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Thank you, Sally.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, good night, guys. Bill, you’re going to be missed! And to echo what a lot of people are saying in the chat, we miss Sam as well. And Dave, thank you for your kind words on that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I didn’t have loads of interaction with Sam, but I miss him. You know, he was always present and I look forward to the day he’s back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So thank you Chat, everyone who’s been interacting tonight, it’s been good and look forward to it next time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:56:51]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Thanks, Natty.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><strong>Bill Atheling:</strong> Oh, thank you, everybody. And Mark, thank you so much! I totally enjoyed doing this. It’s just one of those things, circumstances beyond my control unfortunately, at the moment. It’s been a great privilege and a great pleasure to be here with this group of eloquent and interesting people. And thank you, Dave, for your book. It’s excellent!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As I said, it’s a high recommendation from me. And, yeah, Mark if things. Circumstances change, who knows? Maybe I’ll be allowed to come back on at some point in the future. But we’ll see what happens. But thank you, everyone. Keep supporting our guys. You know, I’m off to see Sam again next month. I write to him each week. You know, I write to Sam as well. Keep supporting them. You know, they, they’re doing well, but they need to hear from everyone and I’m sure many people are doing that anyway. Yeah. Thank you, everyone. And I shall bow out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Thanks, Bill.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you so much to everyone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will be back in the week for Patriotic Weekly Review with Blair Cottrell.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will also be gracing your screens when the footage from the Awakening Conference comes out. I did a speech all about Sam Melia and about the heroes of the future, so look forward to that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will also be back with Natty next weekend for the Nationalist A-Team. He will have all the maps installed or else he will face my wrath! And we will have a special guest for that stream as well, No Chance!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we will be doing plenty through the week.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you haven’t checked it out, I’ve got a video out this week. It’s a bit of a light hearted one. I was in a bit of a rush this week, so I’ve got a light hearted video.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you’ve got ten minutes to kill and you want to laugh, that’s up as well. It’s about Lauren Southern. So I look forward to seeing you same time next month and hopefully before then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as I said, I’ll be back on Wednesday. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to Dave, thank you to Bill, thank you, Sally, thank you to Natty, and thank you to everyone who tuned in, everyone who donated so generously. Thank you so much! Have a great weekend, have a great evening. Good night, everyone. I’ll see you all again soon.</p>
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<p><strong>Dave Gahary:</strong> Thanks, Mark.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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MagicManintheSky<br />
45 seconds ago<br />
I have a copy of this absolutely brilliant book. It is easy to read and full of surprises to those who have been spoon-fed the Jewish propaganda narrative of WW2 all their lives.</p>
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oh great No Chance will be on the next gaming stream</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@dsallen7<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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1 hour ago<br />
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1 hour ago<br />
14 Deus Vult</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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1 hour ago<br />
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1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14s for Bill</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>)))Joker(((<br />
1 hour ago<br />
later o/</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Thank you gentlemen.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 hour ago<br />
The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan idk if it is any good.</p>
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DOLO<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
np brother</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 hour ago<br />
oh, Mark was in Finland! Cannot wait to hear his impressions.</p>
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DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Very good all things considered, i would be miserable lol.</p>
<p>@cheflad<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 hour ago<br />
1&#x20e3;4&#x20e3;8&#x20e3;8&#x20e3;</p>
<p>Natty<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
thanks Dolo, i havnt read that one</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Freedom of speech is a precious thing. It should have been part of European nations&#8217; legal constitution. When bad actors are not allowed to monopolize the media, good actors have nothing to fear from allowing (((bad actors))) to spew their lies. You just answer them.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>Nordic Warrior<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
He personally had over 17 hand to hand fights lol</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
by Leon Degrelle</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
1 hour ago<br />
even if Politicians don’t listen to Petitions to release political prisoners they are still helpful.</p>
<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Jews don&#8217;t care about honor. They care about the collective power of the Jewish global nation-in-dispersion. The shame belongs to Churchill for allowing himself to be used against Britain, Germany and the entire White West.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
That&#8217;s greatly appreciated. Thank you for doing so. No worries. We all do what we can, when we can.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
Campaign In Russia: The Waffen SS on the Eastern Front</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
1 hour ago<br />
but even if you can’t afford to donate theirs other ways to help I’ve also petitioned for Sam Melia and Sven longshanks immediate release.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
what is the book called? is it burning souls?</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@BillAtheling<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 hour ago<br />
jews who compromised Churchill have zero honor.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
Indeed. We all do.</p>
<p>@MilosM.<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14 for Sam.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
1 hour ago<br />
i miss sam</p>
<p>@cheflad<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Free Big Sam.</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Free Sam Melia</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Great book sir, thank you.</p>
<p>@cheflad<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Deus Vult.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
All his unit seems to do is go in hand to hand combat, it&#8217;s crazy.</p>
<p>@ArcadeOutpost<br />
1 hour ago<br />
14</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@tuer<br />
1 hour ago<br />
interestingly many british vets became catholics</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
I’m always boosting the stream whenever I can. I’d give money if I could but I don’t have a lot of money. if I had the money I’d be donating but I don’t though I do what I can to help. including boosting the stream and advertising on platforms for mark like YouTube.</p>
<p>@BillAtheling<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Should read Degrelle&#8217;s campaign on the western front, it&#8217;s incredible.</p>
<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Britain should have fought on the side of Germany against the USSR. If only alcoholic traitor Churchill had died of cirrhosis of the liver in the 1930s.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago</p>
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<p>mb14<br />
1 hour ago<br />
My great grandfather was in Verdun on the right side. he got shot thru the arm.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@BillAtheling<br />
Thank you for all your contributions on Book Club. Always a pleasure. Best of luck.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Big A let the Dunkirk lads go.</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Thanks for the above link</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>jm<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Yes, Zoomer Historian is great !!!</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
I had a Great Grandad die at the somme as well.</p>
<p>Reginald Collett<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@mb14<br />
6&#8217;1</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
1 hour ago<br />
moneys tight for everyone RN.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Bulk buy them mark</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>danzimmons<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>mb14<br />
1 hour ago<br />
1<br />
How tall is mrs Mark?</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Patria<br />
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/Gilgamesh:9</p>
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@Zach<br />
1 hour ago<br />
1<br />
mark please Review Joe Haldemans Forever war. and did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky Patrick slattery Co Host about doing a show on PA or RBN.</p>
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1 hour ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
Which audio of Gilgamesh?</p>
<p>mb14<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Hey Mark.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@tuer<br />
1 hour ago<br />
there was a hate crime in the mall of america, black man throwing a white baby three stories down, that was used race reversed in Wonder Woman 1984 &#8211; it&#8217;s just what a miss IDF does</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Typical</p>
<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
1 hour ago<br />
No one hates more fervently and maniacally than Jewish supremacists.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Yeah</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
1 hour ago<br />
They love a false flag!</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
Just asking, I had a fox that broke into my chicken pen and killed all of them. My young children were upset for months.</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
1 hour ago<br />
NKVD wore SS uniforms when doing the massacre</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
1 hour ago<br />
no Rory … I usually feed it</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
&#8230; I&#8217;m just want to examine the lampshade a little; that&#8217;s all &#8230; don&#8217;t tell me it mysteriously disappeared ?</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Is the fox after your chickens, Aunt Sally?</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
If you criticize the Shoes you hate the Jews!</p>
<p>Natty<br />
1 hour ago</p>
<p>@LongKnife1934<br />
a black and white photo of a pile of shoes isnt enough for you??? OY GEVALT</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
1 hour ago<br />
$3.00<br />
Just over a year ago I was invited to a St. George&#8217;s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian Ambassador. Needless to say I didn&#8217;t attend but it just goes to show how the British Army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
1 hour ago<br />
it&#8217;s ok to demand evidence</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
1 hour ago<br />
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<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
2 hours ago<br />
The vanguard</p>
<p>Natty<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@SublimeBraid<br />
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:</p>
<p>SublimeBraid<br />
2 hours ago<br />
they’ve dug 666 rabbi holes around the one truth, Jewish Supremacy.</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
It saddens me that so many are taken in by him</p>
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2 hours ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
He was in London on St George day with Isreal flag lmao</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
I liked how he praised the American Freedom Party, didn&#8217;t like what he just said about Patriot Front</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
2 hours ago<br />
If it wasn&#8217;t for the rigid &amp; sophisticated censorship algorithms Jew elites have set on YouTube, millions more would be wake right now. Their shills &amp; controlled opposition assets (Robinson, Murray, Hopkins, etc) don&#8217;t help matters</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ancient Persia allowed Neahmiah to rebuild their temple. israel likes Idea of Persia. Its why you see the Paivlvo royal line consulted in the news. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably going thru.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Mark Dice was calling Patriot Front feds today, they are hopeless.</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
well said</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
(((Nosferatu)))</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ancient Persia allowed Neahmia rebuild their temple be rebuilt. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably goung thru</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
you will all live to see concerning iran, it return to the name PERSIA. SEE trump cyrus coin. israel states they can wirk with Persia.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago<br />
In the book the, monsters of babylon, he really tries to state how our ancestors have been made to look stupid, and that they were really just as smart as we are, but they just didn&#8217;t have access to the updated knowledge that we have in modern times, with modern science.</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
2 hours ago<br />
They are expert liars. They always invert the truth. Just look at how they&#8217;ve continually gas-lit &amp; lied throughout the period of the Gaza genocide</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
jews and moslems. same thing</p>
<p>Natty<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@LongKnife1934<br />
yeah just like in kuwait, testified to in front of congress&#8230;&#8230;and was exposed as complete horse shit</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
&#8230; human nature hasn&#8217;t change</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
so real</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I actually listened to Gilgamesh the other day, fantastic story.</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
some people seem to enjoy to hate on germans, ever watched sargoy of akkads video on the Suebi?</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
&#8230; did they take the babies out of incubators before throwing them ? :hyper_troll:</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago<br />
The book was excellent in my opinion, highly recommended.</p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
2 hours ago<br />
The level of brainwashing is astonishing</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
2 hours ago<br />
A junior colleague told me of a hospital in Poland he visited. There was a plaque telling of how German soldiers threw babies off the roof. I told him to wake up and think about the German people of today. They are no different and Germans in 1940s were human and would not throw babies off roofs.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@karuppusuriyan<br />
they were Jewish Bolsheviks the ones on top at least.</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Jewish control of western mass media has been their greatest weapon in terms of conditioning the masses</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
uh, source</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
or stormtroopers from star wars</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
For sure! Tikkun olam. looks great. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> whoever thought putting talmudic mandates in charge of fixing the world, was a good idea. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@CampsLindburgh<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ordered. look forward to reading</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Darth_Joker<br />
\o</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
it’s so Ridiculous it should be easy to perceive as blatant propaganda. but many of the Teachers who taught it in school believed it was actually true. my area has a lot of Christian Zionists so I think they were just regurgitating propaganda that they were fed.</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
o/ guys</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
had I to describe the English in one German word it would be &#8220;vermessen&#8221;</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
being a Former liberal I used to think similar to Aunt Sally obviously not her real name. but similar propaganda here in America the German’s and Japanese Roasting Jewish babies on Bayonet’s. similar to the 40 beheaded babies the same people are claiming what a Cohencidence.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
the intelligence agencies have given billions to the true traitorous scum the reporter’s ie activists sellout pukes</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
just think about how much more dehumanizing it is to call others cattle/goy by default and compare that to barbarian, infidel or even a rat (which is at least free)</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
so clear to even the most gullible fecking normie, or should be</p>
<p>@SkipMeister<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Truth is, this Ukraine war started in similar fashion to German/Poland.</p>
<p>SURIYAN<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
id rather call them soviets rather than russians</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
moslems and jews. same thing.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
oh there was plenty of pillaging and merrymaking of women to put it in a PG way. but it wasn’t the German’s dragging women and underage girls to the barns. it was the so called heroes the Russians and to some degree the Americans.</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
with the printing press, fertilizers and that car thingie that we shared with the world, it&#8217;s kinda stunning what propaganda can achieve</p>
<p>)))Joker(((<br />
2 hours ago<br />
&#8230;lol</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
it answered all my questions for sure. Diane King and Rizolis recomends if the book sold me</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>The Awakened Saxon<br />
2 hours ago<br />
&#8216;Find a reason to go to war with Germany.&#8217; Letter from King George V to Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary. However when the Foreign Secretary Sir Edward said that the cabinet hadn’t found a justifiable reason to enter the conflict, the King replied: ‘You have got to find a reason, Grey.’</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
2 hours ago<br />
The bombing of Dresden was clearly a war crime.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
My mistake. You could always pull a Bowden and whip out the magnifying glass lol</p>
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2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago</p>
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<p>@SerenaJB<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
Thanks Reed!</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@DOLO<br />
I’m aware this is available on Audio but apparently the fall of Western man isn’t.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Mark&#8217;s speech on Awakening:</p>
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<p>&mdash; Monokulttuuri FM (@monokulttuuri) <a href="https://twitter.com/monokulttuuri/status/1784217263929000203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2024</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>@SerenaJB<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Good evening.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
Indeed. That would be a good idea.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
i cant see it lasting long</p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
Nice one. I am hooked to his stuff.</p>
<p>DOLO<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/MythOfGermanVillany:8</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
I’m sure it’s a good read but unfortunately because of my eyesight I won’t be able to enjoy it. hopefully someone can make it available in a Audio Format for people with Vision problems.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
was going to plug him at the end of the stream</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ZH&#8217;s video on british vets is dope</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
heres the cazm of America and Europe ww 2. When my Dad met my mother here in America, 50s, he told her he was a nazi. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> her ww2 info from America, caused that news to scare her.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
2 hours ago<br />
On youtube there is a mind-blowing content creator callled Zoomer Historian. His playlist of AH is absolutely incredible.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
what I find aggravating is how the Jewish plot to kill millions of German’s by Jews. by poisoning the water is covered up by the media and on the rare occasions it’s talked about the Jews are portrayed as the Victims acting in self defense. a blatant lie but stupid people believe it.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@WhiteLightKnight<br />
2 hours ago<br />
This book is fantastic. It&#8217;s such a great gateway to give to the Vagues.</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
2 hours ago<br />
$5.00<br />
My maternal grandfather went &#8216;over the top&#8217; on the First day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men whilst serving in the 8th Battalion, King&#8217;s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
I&#8217;m sorry. No, unfortunately.</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
im German Hungarian. my dad was a child in ww 2</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I enjoy reading but it’s very hard on my eyes so I’m forced to use audio formats.</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
YES!!!</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
is marks book available on Audio due to my bad eyesight it’s how I learn from books.</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
the forever wars is available on Audio it’s not an expensive book either although I prefer Audiobooks over reading due to my bad eyesight.</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4da.png" alt="📚" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> FREE Mark Collett eBook | The Fall of Western Man:<br />
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<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
and things my dad said. he was a child in Europe during ww 2</p>
<p>Avid Fan<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Sort your mic out Bill, ffs.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
“concentrate” jews</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
let me say, Diane made reference to a vid for zio deprograming. THAT IS A FACT. Deprogramming from what has been puked into the mind if the west makes PERFECT SENSE TO ME. ive dealt with these. My self also. thanks to the Rizoli infos, i made it out.</p>
<p>@BillAtheling<br />
2 hours ago<br />
it&#8217;s because I talk like an Italian, even on my own, waving my arms about <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
but I think Haldeman had unintentionally stumbled onto their plans for the military in the Future and it spooked them to some degree. but then again I can’t see the Future just making an educated guess.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Joe Haldeman that was his name I’ve only read the first book of the series. but I consider the gay parts to be a Warning of the Future of America rather than LGBT Propaganda. especially considering how his book was attacked by the media not to the extent of a WN book would be.</p>
<p>Bianca Fights The Zombies<br />
2 hours ago<br />
&#8220;big tiddy goth girls needed, stat&#8221;</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
steady your mic cord Bill</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
so basically our hope should rest on the chinese avenging the opium shame</p>
<p>@EndJewishPrivilege<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I can hear what sounds like a stapler</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Bianca Fights The Zombies<br />
2 hours ago<br />
the code is &#8220;send more beer&#8221;</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@WingITprod<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Morse code</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Finally, England, through the Balfour Declaration, took over the safeguarding of Jewish interests in all states. The Frankfurter Zeitung knew exactly at the time what it was saying when it declared that the Balfour Declaration had been the yeast of English victory.&#8221; ~ Alfred Rosenberg</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
yep! their walk and talks are awesome.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Bianca Fights The Zombies<br />
2 hours ago<br />
microphone is clicking</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
2 hours ago<br />
It had allowed the opium trade to fall increasingly into Jewish hands. The Jew Lord Reading, whose real name was Isaacs, took care of important loan negotiations with the United States of America.</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
2 hours ago<br />
It had handed over control of all financial transactions to Jewish bankers such as Rothschild, Montague, Cassell, Lazards, and the rest.</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
2 hours ago<br />
&#8220;Before and during the World War, Jewish high finance had declared that its policy coincided with the policy of Great Britain. England had conquered South Africa for the Jewish diamond dealers such as Lewis, Beith, Lewisohn, and the rest.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
he was attacked by the Media back in the day as being anti gay. I’m familiar with the Future soldiers being gay and Lesbian but back in the 70s when he wrote the book. his critics said that will never happen mate now look at the state of the military.</p>
<p>Bianca Fights The Zombies<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Rizoli walk and talk are great</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Bill hold your mic cord please</p>
<p>@Thor&#8217;sHammer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
It was not for nothing that the German Emperor was known as the Emperor of Peace in World War 1</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ive followed the Rizolis since 2014-2015. It was amazing to see Diane King and Rizolis contributions in credits! too. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
ThX for everything you do for our people Dave <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fb.png" alt="🙏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@BillAtheling<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
hello Rory!</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
makes post ww2 british &#8216;comedy&#8217; even more disturbing and disgusting</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
what i loved mean</p>
<p>@tuer<br />
2 hours ago<br />
always been the bad guys &#8230;</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@Clasha<br />
Hello and welcome.</p>
<p>@Elledee77<br />
2 hours ago<br />
YES!! THATS what i lived about it. it goes back to Germany becoming a nation, ww 1. And it provided photo DOCUMENTS</p>
<p>@Clasha<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Good afternoon</p>
<p>NOMATAWOT<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@BIANCA<br />
Sir</p>
<p>Bianca Fights The Zombies<br />
2 hours ago<br />
sup bros</p>
<p>@PaganBear<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I wish there was a way to get it in Canada without the crazy shipping. It will cost over 65 USD dollars in Canada, I really want it though</p>
<p>@ReedJohnson<br />
2 hours ago</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
Thanks for your support.</p>
<p>danzimmons<br />
2 hours ago<br />
good point Aunt Sally <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fb.png" alt="🙏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@AndyGreatstory<br />
2 hours ago<br />
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2 hours ago<br />
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2 hours ago<br />
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<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Good evening &#8216;Bill the Academic&#8217; ! :laughing:</p>
<p>meaty<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Brilliant book a must read for all.</p>
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3 hours ago</p>
<p>@RoryHerbert<br />
Good evening.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
Good evening folks.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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<p>Rebellious Goy<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Early 20th century, Germans were the USA&#8217;s largest ethnic group</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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Evening mate. Unfortunately, couldn&#8217;t make it.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
howdy milo</p>
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3 hours ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
hey Natty</p>
<p>Natty<br />
3 hours ago<br />
i read it before i was redpilled</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
, i thought it was just a boring version of starship troopers but its been a long time so i might re-visit it, dont they end up in a future where everyone is gay and brown??</p>
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3 hours ago</p>
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hello Reed. I asked where you been last sunday.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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3 hours ago<br />
evening everyone.</p>
<p>@Zach<br />
3 hours ago<br />
the Forever wars is a good read it’s a 3 part series I believe. even though it’s Fiction the writer was a Veteran of the Vietnam War. and is a great anti war book discussing how wars only benefit the Rich. of course he doesn’t talk about who the Rich benefiting from wars are but it’s a good read.</p>
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<p>@dsallen7<br />
3 hours ago<br />
$5.00<br />
Here in America, German &#8220;villainy&#8221; did not exist before 1916. We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany, all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any other context this would be called a mass atrocity.</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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<p>@Amalek61<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Great topic. More should be known about what really happened</p>
<p>@UltimateTruth<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tremendous book!</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
The Hoaxbusters podcast on Speak Free Radio:<br />
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3 hours ago<br />
hello</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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<p>All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.<br />
3 hours ago<br />
cheers</p>
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3 hours ago<br />
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<p>@aeonsof<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Nice, thank you.</p>
<p>All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I think its on archive.org</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
3 hours ago<br />
This sounds like a book I would be interested in, looking forward to the stream!</p>
<p>All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.<br />
3 hours ago<br />
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<p>Natty<br />
3 hours ago</p>
<p>@SomeRandomBloke<br />
stoddard looks interesting</p>
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4 hours ago</p>
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<p>@random<br />
5 hours ago<br />
the racist German stereotype its created by Jews from the propaganda machine Hollywood</p>
<p>Open Borders for Israel<br />
7 hours ago<br />
$5.00<br />
hey Mark, would you consider doing a review of any of lorthrop stoddard&#8217;s books? i recommend the rising tide of colour against white world supremacy&#8230; it was written in the 1920s and predicted the massive number of non whites coming to the West</p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/01/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-by-benton-bradberry-part-01/">Part 01</a> — <strong>Cover text; About the Author; Preface; Chapter 1: The Myth of Germany as an Evil Nation</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/03/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-by-benton-bradberry-part-02/">Part 02</a> — Chapter 2: <strong>Aftermath of the War in Germany</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/04/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-by-benton-bradberry-part-03/">Part 03</a> — Chapter 3: <strong>The Jewish Factor in the War</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/08/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-04-the-russian-revolution-of-1917/">Part 04</a> — Chapter 4: <strong>The Russian Revolution of 1917</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/11/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-05-the-red-terror/">Part 05</a> — Chapter 5: <strong>The Red Terror</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/15/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-06-the-bolshevik-revolution-spreads-throughout-europe/">Part 06</a> — Chapter 6: <b>The Bolshevik Revolution Spreads Throughout Europe</b></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/18/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-07-the-nation-of-israel/">Part 07</a> — Chapter 7: <b>The Nation of Israel</b></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/23/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-08-jews-in-weimar-germany/">Part 08</a> — Chapter 8: <b>Jews in Weimar Germany</b></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/10/29/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-09-hitler-and-national-socialists-rise-to-power/">Part 09</a> — Chapter 9: <b>Hitler and National Socialists Rise to Power</b></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29215" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9-711x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="922" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9-711x1024.jpg 711w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9-600x864.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9-768x1106.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9-1067x1536.jpg 1067w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-2-9.jpg 1264w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/11/02/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-10-national-socialism-vs-communism/">Part 10</a> — Chapter 10: <b>National Socialism vs Communism</b></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/11/08/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-11-jews-declare-war-on-nazi-germany/">Part 11</a> — Chapter 11: <b>Jews Declare War on Nazi Germany</b></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/11/13/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-12-the-nazis-and-the-zionists-actually-work-together/">Part 12</a><span style="color: #008000;"> — Chapter 12: </span></span><span style="color: #008000;"><b>The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together for Jewish Emigration out of Germany</b></span></p>
<p><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/24/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-13-life-in-germany-under-hitler/">Part 13</a><span style="color: #008000;"> — Chapter 13:<strong> Life in Germany Under Hitler</strong></span></p>
<p><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/12/31/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-14-hitler-begins-reclamation-of-german-territory-the-1936-olympics/">Part 14</a><span style="color: #008000;"> — Chapter 14 &amp; 15: <strong>Hitler Begins Reclamation of German Territory; The 1936 Olympics</strong></span></p>
<p><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/01/05/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-15-anschluss-the-unification-of-austria-and-germany/">Part 15</a><span style="color: #008000;"> — Chapter 16: <strong>“<em>Anschluss</em>” The Unification of Austria and Germany</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/02/13/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-16-germany-annexes-the-sudetenland/">Part 16</a> – Chapter 17: <strong>Germany Annexes the Sudetenland</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/03/15/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-17-war-with-poland/">Part 17</a> – Chapter 18: <strong>War with Poland</strong></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/04/02/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-18-the-phony-war/">Part 18</a> – Chapter 19: <strong>The Phony War</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-29216" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4-710x1024.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="923" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4-710x1024.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4-600x865.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4-768x1107.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4-1066x1536.jpg 1066w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-MOGV-COVERS-Part-3-4.jpg 1260w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/24/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-19-germany-invades-france-the-phony-war-ends/">Part 19</a> – Chapter 20: </span><strong>Germany invades France – The Phony War Ends</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/11/03/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-20-the-allied-goal-destruction-of-germany/">Part 20</a> &#8211; Chapter 21: <strong>The Allied Goal? Destruction of Germany!</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/10/20/book-the-myth-of-german-villainy-part-21-germany-as-victim/">Part 21</a> &#8211; Chapter 22: <strong>Germany as Victim</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2020/07/06/book-myth-of-german-villainy-part-22-last-winners-and-losers/">Part 22</a> (last) &#8211; Chapter 23: <strong>Winners and Losers</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Tucker Carlson interviews Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin, who, after an outline of Russia’s history, explains convincingly why Russia was compelled by (((Neocon))) aggression to launch its Special Military Operation against Ukraine.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> The following is an interview with the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, shot February 6, 2024, about 07:00 pm in the building behind us, which is, of course, the Kremlin.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The interview, as you will see if you watch it, is primarily about the war in progress, the war in Ukraine, how it started, what’s happening, and most pressingly how it might end.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">One note before you watch, at the beginning of the interview, we ask the most obvious question, which is:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">And the answer we got shocked us! Putin went on for a very long time, probably half an hour, about the history of Russia, going back to the 8th century. And honestly, we thought this was a filibustering technique and found it annoying and interrupted him several times, and he responded he was annoyed by the interruption.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">But we concluded in the end, for what it’s worth, that it was not a filibustering technique. There was no time limit on the interview. We ended it after more than 2 hours.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Instead, what you’re about to see seemed to us sincere, whether you agree with it or not. Vladimir Putin believes that Russia has a historic claim to parts of western Ukraine. So our opinion would be to view it in that light as a sincere expression of what he thinks. And with that, here it is.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Mr. President, thank you. On February 22, 2022, you addressed your country in a nationwide address when the conflict in Ukraine started. And you said that you were acting because you had come to the conclusion that the United States, through NATO, might initiate a, quote, “<em>surprise attack on our country</em>”. And to American ears, that sounds paranoid. Tell us why you believe the United States might strike Russia out of the blue. How did you conclude that?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sighing]</strong></span> It’s not that America, the United States, was going to launch a surprise strike on Russia. I didn’t say that. Are we having a talk show, or a serious conversation?</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> Here’s the quote. Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Because your basic education is in history, as far as I understand.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Yes!</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> So if you don’t mind, I will take only 30 seconds or one minute to give you a short reference to history. For giving you a little historical background.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Please.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Let’s look where our relationship with Ukraine started from. Where did Ukraine come from? The Russian state started gathering itself as a centralized statehood, and it is considered to be the year of the establishment of the Russian state in 862, when the townspeople of Nogorod invited a Varangian prince, Rurik, from Scandinavia to reign.</p>
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<p>In 1862, Russia celebrated the 1,000th anniversary of its statehood. And in Novorod, there is a memorial dedicated to the 1,000th anniversary of the country.</p>
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<p>In 882, Rurik’s successor, Prince Oleg, who was actually playing the role of regent as Rurik’s young son, because Rurik had died by that time, came to Kiev. He ousted two brothers who apparently had once been members of Rurik’s squad.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So Russia began to develop with two centers of power, Kiev and Novgorov.</p>
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<p>The next very significant date in the history of Russia was 988. This was the baptism of Russia, when Prince Vladimir, the great grandson of Rurik, baptized Russia and adopted Orthodoxy, or Eastern Christianity. From this time, the centralized Russian state began to strengthen. Why? Because of the single territory, integrated economic ties, one and the same language after the baptism of Russia, the same faith and rule of the Prince. The centralized Russian state began to take shape.</p>
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<p>Back in the Middle Ages, Prince Yaroslav the Wise introduced the order of succession to a throne. But after he passed away, it became complicated for various reasons.</p>
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<p>The throne was passed not directly from father to eldest son, but from the Prince who had passed away to his brother, then to his sons in different lines. All this led to the fragmentation and the end of Rus as a single state. There was nothing special about it. The same was happening then in Europe.</p>
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<p>But the fragmented Russian state became an easy prey to the empire created earlier by Gengis Khan. His successors, namely Batu Khan, came to Rus, plundered and ruined nearly all the cities.</p>
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<p>The southern part, including Kiev, by the way, and some other cities simply lost independence. While northern cities preserved some of their sovereignty. They had to pay tribute to the horde, but they managed to preserve some part of their sovereignty.</p>
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<p>And then a unified Russian state began to take shape, with its center in Moscow. The southern part of Russian lands, including Kiev, began to gradually gravitate towards another magnet, the center that was emerging in Europe. This was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It was even called the Lithuanian Russian Duchy, because Russians were a significant part of this population. They spoke the old Russian language and were Orthodox.</p>
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<p>But then there was a unification, the Union of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland.</p>
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<p>A few years later, another union was signed, but this time already in the religious sphere. Some of the Orthodox priests became subordinate to the Pope. Thus these lands became part of the Polish Lithuanian state.</p>
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<p>During decades, the Poles were engaged in colonization of this part of the population. They introduced a language there, tried to entrench the idea that this population was not exactly Russians, that because they lived on the fringe, they were “<em>Ukrainians</em>”. Originally, the word “<em>Ukrainian</em>” meant that a person was living on the outskirts of the state, along the fringes, or was engaged in a border patrol service. It didn’t mean any particular ethnic group.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[07:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So the Poles were trying to, in every possible way, to colonize this part of the Russian lands and actually treated it rather harshly, not to say cruelly. All that led to the fact that this part of the Russian lands began to struggle for their rights. They wrote letters to Warsaw demanding that their rights be observed and people be commissioned here, including to Kiev.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I beg your pardon, can you tell us what period? I’m losing track of where in history we are? The Polish oppression of Ukraine.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> It was in the 13th century.</p>
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<p>Now I will tell you what happened later and give the dates so that there is no confusion.</p>
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<p>And in 1654, even a bit earlier, the people who were in control of the authority over that part of the Russian lands addressed Warsaw, I repeat, demanding that they send them to rulers of Russian origin and Orthodox faith. When Warsaw did not answer them, and in fact rejected their demands, they turned to Moscow, so that Moscow took them away.</p>
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<p>So that you don’t think that I’m inventing things, I’ll give you these documents.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;">[An aide comes and hands Putin a folder.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, it doesn’t sound like you’re inventing it. I’m not sure why it’s relevant to what happened two years ago.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> But still, these are documents from the archives. Copies. Here are the letters from Bohdan Khmelnytsky, the man who then controlled the power in this part of the Russian lands that is now called Ukraine. He wrote to Warsaw demanding that their rights be upheld. And after being refused, he began to write letters to Moscow, asking to take them under the strong hand of the Moscow Tsar. There are copies of these documents. I will leave them for your good memory. There is a translation into Russian. You can translate it into English later.</p>
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<p>Russia would not agree to admit them straight away, assuming that a war with Poland would start.</p>
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<p>Nevertheless, in 1654, the Russian assembly of top clergy and landowners, headed by the Tsar, which was the representative body of the power of the old Russian state, decided to include a part of the old Russian lands into Moscow Kingdom.</p>
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<p>As expected, the war with Poland began. It lasted 13 years. And then in 1654, a truce was concluded. And 32 years later, I think, a peace treaty with Poland, which they called “<em>Eternal Peace</em>”, was signed. And these lands, the whole left bank of Dneiper, including Kiev, went to Russia, and the whole right bank of Dneiper, remained in Poland.</p>
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<p>Under the rule of Catherine the Great*, Russia reclaimed all of its historical lands, including in the south and west. This all lasted until the revolution <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1917]</strong></span>.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;">[*Catherine the Great, was the reigning empress of Russia from 1762 to 1796]</span></p>
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<p>Before World War I, Austrian General Staff relied on the ideas of Ukrainianization and started actively promoting the ideas of Ukraine and the Ukrainianization. Their motive was obvious. Just before World War I, they wanted to weaken the potential enemy and secure themselves favorable conditions in the border area.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:46]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So the idea which had emerged in Poland, that people residing in that territory were allegedly not really Russians, but rather belonged to a special ethnic group, Ukrainians, started being propagated by the Austrian General Staff.</p>
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<p>As far back as the 19th century, theorists calling for Ukrainian independence appeared. All those, however, claimed that Ukraine should have a very good relationship with Russia. They insisted on that.</p>
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<p>After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks sought to restore the statehood and the civil war began, including the hostilities with Poland. In 1921, peace with Poland was proclaimed and under that treaty, the right bank of Dneiper River once again was given back to Poland.</p>
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<p>In 1939, after Poland co-operated with Hitler – it did collaborate with Hitler, you know, – Hitler offered Poland peace and a treaty of friendship. An alliance demanding in return that Poland give back to Germany the so-called Danzig Corridor, which connected the bulk of Germany with East Prussia and Konigsberg.</p>
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<p>After World War I, this territory was transferred to Poland and instead of Danzig, a city of Gdasnk emerged. Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused. Of course, still they collaborated with Hitler and engaged together in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> May I ask you, you’re making the case that Ukraine, certainly parts of Ukraine, eastern Ukraine, is in effect Russian, has been for hundreds of years. Why wouldn’t you just take it when you became president 24 years ago? You have nuclear weapons, they don’t. If it’s actually your land, why did you wait so long?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Sure. I’ll tell you. I’m coming to that. This briefing is coming to an end. It might be boring, but it explains many things.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> It’s not boring. Just don’t know how it’s relevant.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Good, good. I’m so gratified that you appreciate that. Thank you.</p>
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<p>So before World War II, Poland collaborated with Hitler and although it did not yield to Hitler’s demands, it still participated in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia, together with Hitler. As the Poles had not given the Danzig Corridor to Germany, had went too far, pushing Hitler to start World War II* by attacking them.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* WWII was started by Britain and France declaring war on Germany, after the German invasion of Poland.]</span></p>
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<p>Why was it Poland against whom the war started on first September 1939? Poland turned out to be uncompromising and Hitler had nothing to do but start implementing his plans with Poland.</p>
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<p>By the way, the USSR — I have read some archived documents — behaved very honestly. It asked Poland’s permission to transit its troops through the Polish territory to help Czechoslovakia. But the then Polish foreign minister said that if the Soviet planes flew over Poland, they would be downed over the territory of Poland. But that doesn’t matter.</p>
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<p>What matters is that the war begun and Poland fell prey to the policies it had pursued against Czechoslovakia. This under the well known Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. A part of the territory, including western Ukraine, was to be given to Russia. Thus, Russia, which was then named the USSR, regained its historical lands.</p>
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<p>After the victory in the Great Patriotic War, as we call World War II, all those territories were ultimately enshrined as belonging to Russia. To the USSR.</p>
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<p>As for Poland, it received, apparently in compensation, the lands which had originally been German. The eastern parts of Germany, these are now western lands of Poland. Of course, Poland regained access to the Baltic Sea and Danzig, which was once again given its Polish name.</p>
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<p>So this was how this situation developed. In 1922, when the USSR was being established, the Bolsheviks started building the USSR and established the Soviet Ukraine, which had never existed before.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Stalin insisted that those republics be included in the USSR as autonomous entities. For some inexplicable reason, Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, insisted that they be entitled to withdraw from the USSR.</p>
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<p>And again, for some unknown reasons, he transferred to that newly established Soviet Republic of Ukraine, some of the lands, together with people living there, even though those lands had never been called Ukraine, and yet they were made part of that Soviet Republic of Ukraine.</p>
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<p>Those lands included the Black Sea region, which was received under Catherine and the Great, and which had no historical connection with Ukraine whatsoever! Even if we go as far back as 1654, when these lands returned to Russian Empire, that territory was the size of three to four regions of modern Ukraine with no Black Sea region. That was completely out of the question</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> In 1654?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Exactly!</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> You obviously have encyclopedic knowledge of this region. But why didn’t you make this case for the first, 22 years as president that Ukraine wasn’t a real country?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region.</p>
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<p>At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo-Turkish wars, they were called “<em>New Russia</em>” or “<em>Novorossiya</em>”. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way.</p>
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<p>For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainianization. It was not merely because the Soviet leadership was composed to a great extent of those originating from Ukraine. Rather, it was explained by the general policy of indigenization pursued by the Soviet Union. Same things were done in other Soviet Republics. This involved promoting national languages and national cultures, which is not bad in principle. That is how the Soviet Ukraine was created.</p>
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<p>After World War II Ukraine received, in addition to the lands that had belonged to Poland before the war, part of the lands that had previously belonged to Hungary and Romania. So Romania and Hungary had some of their lands taken away and given to the Soviet Ukraine, and they still remain part of Ukraine. So in this sense we have every reason to affirm that Ukraine is an artificial state that was shaped at Stalin’s will.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you believe Hungary has a right to take its land back from Ukraine, and that other nations have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I’m not sure whether they should go back to the 1654 borders. But given Stalin’s time, so-called “<em>Stalin’s Regime</em>”, which as many claim, saw numerous violations of human rights and violations of the rights of other states, one may say that they could claim back those lands of theirs while having no right to do that. It is at least understandable.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Have you told Viktor Orban that he can have part of Ukraine?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Never! I have never told him, not a single time! We have not even had any conversation on that.</p>
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<p>But I actually know for sure that Hungarians who live there wanted to get back to their historical land.</p>
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<p>Moreover, I would like to share a very interesting story with you. I digress, it’s a personal one. Somewhere in the early eighties, I went on a road trip in a car from then Leningrad across the Soviet Union through Kiev, made a stop in Kiev and then went to western Ukraine. I went to the town of Beregovoy. And all the names of towns and villages there were in Russian and in the language I did not understand, in Hungarian. In Russian and in Hungarian. Not in Ukrainian, in Russian and in Hungarian.</p>
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<p>I was driving through some kind of village and there were men sitting next to the houses and they were wearing black three-piece suits and black cylinder hats. I asked:</p>
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<p>I was told:</p>
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<p>I said:</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: black;">“What do you mean? This is their land. They live here.”</span></h3>
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<p>This was during the Soviet time in the 1980s. They preserved the Hungarian language, Hungarian names and all their national costumes. They are Hungarians, and they feel themselves to be Hungarians. And of course when now there is an infringement, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> And there’s a lot of that, though I think many nations are upset about Transylvania as well, as you obviously know. But many nations feel frustrated by the redrawn borders of the wars of the 20th century and wars going back 1,000 years. The ones that you mentioned.</p>
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<p>But the fact is that you didn’t make this case in public until two years ago, February. And in the case that you made, which I read today, you explain at great length that you felt a physical threat from the West in NATO, including potentially a nuclear threat, and that’s what got you to move. Is that a fair characterization of what you said?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[23:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I understand that my long speech probably falls outside of the genre of the interview. That is why I asked you at the beginning, are we going to have a serious talk, or a show? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Tucker bursts out chuckling]</strong></span> You said “<em>a serious talk</em>”, so bear with me, please.</p>
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<p>We’re coming to the point where the Soviet Ukraine was established.</p>
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<p>Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed, and everything that Russia had generously bestowed on Ukraine was dragged away by the latter.</p>
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<p>I’m coming to a very important point of today’s agenda.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> After all, the collapse of the Soviet Union was effectively initiated by the Russian leadership. I do not understand what the Russian leadership was guided by at the time, but I suspect there were several reasons to think everything would be fine.</p>
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<p>First, I think that then Russian leadership believed that the fundamentals of the relationship between Russia and Ukraine were in fact a common language. More than 90% of the population there spoke Russian. Family ties. Every third person there had some kind of family or friendship ties. Common culture, common history. Finally, common faith, coexistence with a single state for centuries and deeply interconnected economies. All of these were so fundamental. All these elements together make our good relationships inevitable.</p>
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<p>The second point is a very important one. I want you as an American citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well. The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist, and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union and believed that this would be understood by the so-called “<em>civilized West</em>” as an invitation for co-operation and association. That is what Russia was expecting, both from the United States and the so-called “<em>collective West</em>” as a whole.</p>
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<p>There were smart people, including in Germany. Egon Bahr, a major politician of the Social Democratic Party, who insisted in his personal conversations with the Soviet leadership on the brink of the collapse of the Soviet Union that a new security system should be established in Europe. Help should be given to unify Germany, but a new system should be also established to include the United States, Canada, Russia, and other central European countries.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Yep.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> But NATO needs not to expand. That’s what he said. If NATO expands, everything would be just the same as during the Cold War, only closer to Russia’s borders. That’s all! He was a wise old man, but no one listened to him.</p>
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<p>In fact, he got angry once:</p>
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<p>Once again, everything happened just as he had said.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, of course, it did come true. And you’ve mentioned this many times. I think it’s a fair point. And many in America thought that relations between Russia and the United States would be fine with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the end of the cold War, but the opposite happened.</p>
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<p>But you’ve never explained why you think that happened, except to say that the West fears a strong Russia. But we have a strong China, the West does not seem very afraid of. What about Russia, do you think, convinced policymakers they had to take it down?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> The West is afraid of strong China more than it fears a strong Russia, because Russia has 150,000,000 people, and China has 1.5 billion population, and it’s economy is growing by leaps and bounds, or 5% a year. It used to be even more, but that’s enough for China.</p>
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<p>As Bismarck once put it, potentials are the most important. China’s potential is enormous. It is the biggest economy in the world today in terms of purchasing power parity and the size of the economy. It has already overtaken the United States quite a long time ago, and it is growing at a rapid clip. Let’s not talk about who is afraid of whom. Let’s not reason in such terms.</p>
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<p>And let’s get into the fact that after 1991, when Russia expected that it would be welcomed into the brotherly family of civilized nations, nothing like this happened.</p>
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<p>You tricked us! I don’t mean you personally when I say “<em>you</em>”. Of course I’m talking about the United States. The promise was that NATO would not expand eastward, but it happened five times. There were five waves of expansion. We tolerated all that. We were trying to persuade them. We were saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Please don’t. We are as bourgeois now as you are. We are market economy and there is no Communist Party power. Let’s negotiate.”</span></h3>
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<p>Moreover, I have also said this publicly before. There was a moment when a certain rift started growing between us. Before that, Yeltsin came to the United States. Remember, he spoke in Congress and said the good words, “<em>God bless America!</em>”. Everything he said were signals:</p>
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<p>Remember the developments in Yugoslavia before Yeltsin was lavished with praise.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As soon as the developments in Yugoslavia started, he raised his voice in support of Serbs, and we couldn’t but raise our voices for Serbs in their defense. I understand that there were complex processes underway there. I do. But Russia could not help raising its voice in support of Serbs, because Serbs are also a special and close to us nation with Orthodox culture, and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s a nation that has suffered so much for generations. Well, regardless, what is important is that Yeltsin expressed his support. What did the United States do? In violation of an international law and the UN charter, it started bombing Belgrade. It was the United States that led the genie out of the bottle.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Moreover, when Russia protested and expressed its resentment, what was said?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The UN Charter and international law have become obsolete.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now everyone invokes international law. But at that time, they started saying that everything was outdated. Everything had to be changed. Indeed, some things need to be changed as the balance of power has changed. It’s true, but not in this manner.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeltsin was immediately dragged through the mud, accused of alcoholism, of understanding nothing, of knowing nothing. He understood everything, I assure you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I became President in 2000. I thought:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, the Yugoslav issue is over, but we should try to restore relations. Let’s reopen the door that Russia had tried to go through.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And moreover, I said it publicly. I can reiterate. At a meeting here in the Kremlin with the outgoing president, Bill Clinton, right here in the next room. I said to him, I asked him:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Bill, do you think if Russia asked to join NATO, do you think it would happen?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Suddenly he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, it’s interesting. I think so.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in the evening when we met for dinner, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, I’ve talked to my team. No, no, it’s not possible now.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You can ask him. I think he will watch our interview. He’ll confirm it. I wouldn’t have said anything like that if it hadn’t happened. Okay, well, it’s impossible now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Were you sincere? Would you have joined NATO?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Look! I asked the question, is it possible or not? And the answer I got was, no. If I was insincere in my desire to find out what the leadership position was, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But if he had said yes, would you have joined NATO?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> If he had said yes, the process of rapprochement would have commenced, and eventually it might have happened, if we had seen some sincere wish on the other side of our partners. But it didn’t happen. Well, no means no! Okay, fine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Why do you think that is? Just to get to motive. I know you’re clearly bitter about it. I understand, but why do you think the West rebuffed you then? Why the hostility? Why did the end of the Cold War not fix the relationship? What motivates this from your point of view?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You said I was bitter about the answer. No, it’s not bitterness. It’s just a statement of fact. We’re not bride and groom. Bitterness, resentment, it’s not about those kind of matters in such circumstances. We just realized we weren’t welcome there, that’s all. Okay, fine. But let’s build relations in another manner. Let’s work for common ground elsewhere.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why we received such a negative response? You should ask your leaders. I can only guess why. Too big a country with its own opinion and so on. In the United States, I have seen how issues are being resolved in NATO.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will give you another example now concerning Ukraine. The US leadership exerts pressure, and all NATO members obediently vote, even if they do not like something.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, I’ll tell you what happened in this regard with Ukraine in 2008. Although it’s being discussed, I’m not going to open a secret to you, say anything new.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Nevertheless, after that, we tried to build relations in different ways.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:51]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>For example, the events in the Middle East, in Iraq. We were building relations with the United States in a very soft, prudent, cautious manner. I repeatedly raised the issue that the United States should not support separatism or terrorism in the north Caucasus, but they continue to do it anyway. And political support, information support, financial support, even military support came from the United States and its satellites for terrorist groups in the caucuses.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I once raised this issue with my colleague, also the President of the United States. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s impossible. Do you have proof?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I was prepared for this conversation, and I gave him that proof. He looked at it, and, you know what he said?:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I apologize, but that’s what happened.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ll quote. He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’m going to kick their ass!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We waited and waited for some response. There was no reply. I said to the FSB director:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Write to the CIA, what is the result of the conversation with the president?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He wrote once, twice, and then we got a reply. We have the answer in the archive. The CIA replied:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We have been working with the opposition in Russia. We believe that this is the right thing to do, and we will keep on doing it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just ridiculous! Well, okay. We realized that it was out of the question.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Forces in opposition to you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you’re saying the CIA is trying to overthrow your government?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Of course they meant in that particular case, the separatists, the terrorists who fought with us in the Caucuses. That’s who they called the “<em>Opposition</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the second point. The third moment is a very important one, is the moment when the US missile defense system was created. The beginning. We persuaded for a long time not to do it in United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Moreover, after I was invited by Bush Jr’s father, Bush senior, to visit his place on the ocean, I had a very serious conversation with President Bush and his team. I proposed that the United States, Russia and Europe jointly create a missile defense system that we believe, if created unilaterally, threatens our security despite the fact that the United States officially said that it was being created against missile threats from Iran. That was the justification for the deployment of the missile defense system.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I suggested working together, Russia, the United States and Europe. They said it was very interesting. They asked me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Are you serious?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Absolutely!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> May I ask what year was this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:58]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I don’t remember. It is easy to find out on the Internet when I was in the USA at the invitation of a Bush senior.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is even easier to learn from someone I’m going to tell you about. I was told:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It was very interesting.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Just imagine if we could tackle such a global strategic security challenge together. The world will change. We’ll probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones, but we could drastically change the situation in the world.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And asks:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Are you serious?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Of course! We need to think about it. I’m sold.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Go ahead, please.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Secretary of Defense, Gates, former director of CIA and Secretary of State, Rice, came in here in this cabinet, right here at this table. They sat at this table. Me, the Foreign Minister, the Russian Defense Minister on that side. They said to me:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yes, we have thought about it. We agree.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thank God! Great!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But with some exceptions.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So twice you’ve described US presidents making decisions and then being undercut by their agency heads. So it sounds like you’re describing a system that’s not run by the people who are elected, in your telling.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> That’s right, that’s right! And then in the end they just told us to get lost. I’m not going to tell you the details because I think it’s incorrect. After all, it was confidential conversation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But our proposal was declined. That’s a fact!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was right then when I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, but then we will be forced to take countermeasures. We will create such strike systems that will certainly overcome missile defense systems.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The answer was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are not doing this against you, and you do what you want, assuming that it is not against us, not against the United States.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, very well.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s the way it went. And we created hypersonic systems with intercontinental range, and we continue to develop them. We are now ahead of everyone, the United States and the other countries in terms of the development of hypersonic strike systems. And we are improving them every day. But it wasn’t us. We proposed to go the other way and we were pushed back.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, about NATO’s expansion to the east. Well, we were promised no NATO to the east:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Not an inch to the east.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As we were told. And then what they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, it’s not enshrined on paper, so we’ll expand.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So there were five waves of expansion, the Baltic states, the whole of Eastern Europe, and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And now I come to the main thing. They have come to the Ukraine, ultimately. In 2008, at the Summit in Bucharest, they declared that the doors for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO were open.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now about how decisions are made there. Germany, France seemed to be against it, as well as some other European countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But then, as it turned out later, President Bush, and he’s such a tough guy, a tough politician, as I was told later, he exerted pressure on us and we had to agree. It’s ridiculous! It’s like kindergarten. Where are the guarantees? What kindergarten is this? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> What kind of people are these? Who are they? You see, they were pressed. They agree.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Ukraine won’t be in the NATO, you know.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t know. I know you agreed in 2008. Why won’t you agree in the future?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, they pressed us then. I say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why won’t they press you tomorrow and you’ll agree again?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, it’s nonsensical! Who’s there to talk to? I just don’t understand. We’re ready to talk.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But with whom? Where are the guarantees? None!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[41:13]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they started to develop the territory of Ukraine. Whatever is there, I have told you the background, how this territory developed, what kind of relations they were with Russia. Every second or third person there has always had some ties with Russia. And during the elections in already independent sovereign Ukraine, which gained its independence as a result of the Declaration of Independence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And by the way, it says that Ukraine is a neutral state. And in 2008, suddenly the doors or Gates to NATO were open to it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh, come on! This is not how we agreed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, all the presidents that have come to power in Ukraine, they relied on electorate with a good attitude to Russia in one way or the other. This is the southeast of Ukraine. This is a large number of people. And it was very difficult to dissuade this electorate, which had a positive attitude towards Russia. Victor Yanukovych came to power. And how the first time he won, after President Kuchma, they organized a third round which is not provided for in the Constitution of Ukraine. This is a coup d’eta! Just imagine someone in the United States wouldn’t like the outcome.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> In 2014?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Before that. No, this was before that. After President Kuchma, Viktor Yanukovych won the elections.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, his opponents did not recognize that victory. The US supported the opposition and the third round was scheduled. What is this? This is a coup! The US supported it and the winner of the third round came to power. Imagine if in the US something was not to someone’s liking and the third round of election, which the US constitution does not provide for, was organized. Nonetheless, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> it was done in Ukraine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay. Viktor Yushchenko, who was considered a pro-Western politician, came to power. Fine! We have built relations with him as well. He came to Moscow with visits. We visited Kiev, I visited too. We met in an informal setting. If he’s pro-Western, so be it. It’s fine. Let people do their job.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The situation should have developed inside the independent Ukraine itself. As a result of Kuchma’s leadership, things got worse and Viktor Yanukovych came to power after all. Maybe he wasn’t the best president and politician. I don’t know. I don’t want to give assessments.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, the issue of the association with the EU came up. We have always been lenient to this. Suit yourself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when we read through the Treaty of Association, it turned out to be a problem for us, since we had a free trade zone and open customs borders with Ukraine, which under this Association had to open its borders for Europe, which would have led to flooding of our market. We said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, this is not going to work. We shall close our borders with Ukraine.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then, the customs borders, that is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yanukovych started to calculate how much Ukraine was going to gain, how much to lose, and said to his European partners:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I need more time to think before signing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The moment he said that, the opposition began to take destructive steps which were supported by the West.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It all came down to Maidan and a coup in Ukraine <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[February 2014]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So he did more trade with Russia than with the EU? Ukraine did?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Of course. It’s not even the matter of trade volume, although for the most part it is. It is a matter of co-operation size, which the entire Ukrainian economy was based on. The co-operation size between the enterprises were very close since the times of the Soviet union. One enterprise there used to produce components to be assembled both in Russia and Ukraine and vice versa. They used to be very close ties.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A coup d’eta was committed, although I shall not delve into details now, as I find doing it inappropriate. The US told us:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Calm Yanukovych down and we will calm the opposition. Let the situation unfold in the scenario of a political settlement.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, agreed, let’s do it this way.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As the Americans requested, Yanukovych did use neither the armed forces nor the police. Yet the armed opposition committed a coup in Kiev! What is that supposed to mean? Who do you think you are? I wanted to ask the then US leadership.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> With the backing of whom?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> With the backing of CIA, of course! The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn’t let you in! Although it is a serious organization, I understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My former vis a vis in the sense that I served in the First Main Directorate, Soviet Union’s intelligence service. They have always been our opponents. A job is a job!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Technically, they did everything right. They achieved their goal of changing the government. However, from political standpoint, it was a colossal mistake! Surely it was political leadership’s miscalculation. They should have seen what it would evolve into.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in 2008, the doors of NATO were opened for Ukraine. In 2014 there was a coup. They started persecuting those who did not accept the coup and it was indeed a coup. They created a threat to Crimea which we had to take under our protection.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started. There is a video of aircraft attacking Donetsk from above. They launched a large scale military operation, then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare the next one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:43]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All this against the background of military development of this territory and opening of NATO’s doors. How could we not express concern over what was happening? From our side this would have been a culpable negligence, that’s what it would have been it’s just that the US political leadership pushed us to the line we could not cross because doing so could have ruined Russia itself.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Besides, we could not leave our brothers in faith, in fact a part of Russian people, in the face of this war machine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> That was eight years before the current conflict started.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what was the trigger for you? What was the moment where you decided you had to do this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>By the way, back then, the representatives of three European countries, Germany, Poland and France, arrived. They were the guarantors of the signed agreement between the government of Yanukovych and the opposition. They signed it as guarantors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Despite that, the opposition committed a coup. And all these countries pretended that they didn’t remember that they were guarantors of the peaceful settlement. They just threw it in the stove right away. And nobody recalls that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don’t know if the US know anything about the agreement between the opposition and the authorities and it’s three guarantors who instead of bringing this whole situation back in the political field, supported the coup. Although it was meaningless, believe me, because President Yanukovych agreed to all conditions, he was ready to hold an early election which he had no chance of winning, frankly speaking. Everyone knew that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then why the coup? Why the victims? Why threatening Crimea? Why launching an operation in Donbas? This I do not understand. That is exactly what the miscalculation is. CIA did its job to complete the coup. I think one of the Deputy <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Assistant]</strong></span> Secretaries of State <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Victoria Nuland]</strong></span> said that it cost a large sum of money, almost 5 billion. But the political mistake was colossal! Why would they have to do that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All this could have been done legally, without victims, without military action, without losing Crimea. We would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn’t been for the bloody developments on Maidan. Because we agreed with the fact that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, our borders should be along the borders of former union’s Republics. We agreed to that. But we never agreed to NATO’s expansion. And moreover, we never agreed that Ukraine would be in NATO. We did not agree to NATO basis there without any discussion with us! For decades we kept asking:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t do this, don’t do that!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what triggered the latest events?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Firstly, the current Ukrainian leadership declared that it would not implement the Minsk Agreements which had been signed, as you know, after the events of 2014 in Minsk, where the plan of peaceful settlement in Donbas was set forth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:25]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But no, the current Ukrainian leadership, foreign minister, all other officials and then president himself said that they don’t like anything about the Minsk Agreements.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In other words, they were not going to implement it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>A year, or a year and a half ago, former leaders of Germany and France said openly to the whole world that they indeed signed the Minsk Agreements <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[first in September 2014]</strong></span> but they never intended to implement them. They simply led us by the nose!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Was there anyone for you to talk to? Did you call a US President, Secretary of State, and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you keep militarizing Ukraine with NATO forces, this is going to get, we’re going to act?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> We talked about this all the time. We addressed the United States and European countries leadership to stop these developments immediately, to implement the Minsk Agreements. Frankly speaking, I didn’t know how we were going to do this, but I was ready to implement them. These agreements were complicated for Ukraine. They included lots of elements of those Donbas territories independence. That’s true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, I was absolutely confident, and I’m saying this to you now, I honestly believe that if we managed to convince the residents of Donbas and we had to work hard to convince them to return to the Ukrainian statehood, then gradually the wounds would start to heal. When this part of territory reintegrated itself into common social environment, when the pensions and social benefits were paid again, all the pieces would gradually fall into place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, nobody wanted that. Everybody wanted to resolve the issue by military force only. But we could not let that happen! And the situation got to the point when the Ukrainian side announced:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, we will not do anything.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They also started preparing for military action.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was they who started the war in 2014. Our goal is to stop this war, and we did not start this war in 2022. This is an attempt to stop it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you think you’ve stopped it now? I mean, have you achieved your aims?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> No, we haven’t achieved our aims yet! Because one of them is denazification. This means the prohibition of all kinds of neo-Nazi movements. This is one of the problems that we discussed during the negotiation process which ended in Istanbul early this year. And it was not our initiative, because we were told by the Europeans in particular that it was necessary to create conditions for the final signing of the documents. My counterparts in France and Germany said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How can you imagine them signing a treaty with a gun to their heads? The troops should be pulled back from Kiev.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We withdrew the troops from Kiev. As soon as we pulled back our troops from Kiev, our Ukrainian negotiators immediately threw all our agreements, reached in Istanbul, into the bin! And got prepared for a long standing armed confrontation with the help of the United States and its satellites in Europe! That is how the situation has developed. And that is how it looks now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:20]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But what is, pardon my ignorance, what is “<em>denazification</em>”? What would that mean?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> That is what I want to talk about right now. It is a very important issue. Denazification. After gaining independence, Ukraine began to search, as some Western analysts say, it’s identity. And it came up with nothing better than to build this identity upon some false heroes who collaborated with Hitler.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have already said that in the early 19th century, when the theorists of independence and sovereignty of Ukraine appeared, they assumed that an independent Ukraine should have very good relations with Russia. But due to the historical development, those territories were part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Poland, where Ukrainians were persecuted and treated quite brutally, as well as were subject to cruel behavior. There were also attempts to destroy their identity. All this remained in the memory of the people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When World War II broke out, part of this extremely nationalist elite collaborated with Hitler, believing that he would bring them freedom. The German troops, even the SS troops, made Hitler’s collaborators do the dirtiest work of exterminating the Polish and jewish population. Hence this brutal massacre of the Polish and jewish population, as well as the Russian population, too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was led by the persons who are well known, Bandera, Shukhevych. It was those people who were made national heroes. That is the problem. And we are constantly told that nationalism and neo-Nazism exist in other countries as well. Yes, they are seedlings, but we approve them and other countries fight against them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Ukraine is not the case. These people have been made into national heroes in Ukraine. Monuments to those people have been erected. They are displayed on flags. Their names are shouted by crowds that walk with torches, as it was in Nazi Germany. These were people who exterminated Poles, jews and Russians. It is necessary to stop this practice and prevent the dissemination of this concept.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I say that Ukrainians are part of the one Russian people. They say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, we are a separate people.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, fine. If they consider themselves a separate people, they have the right to do. But not on the basis of Nazism, the Nazi ideology.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Would you be satisfied with the territory that you have now?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I will finish answering the question. You just asked a question about neo-Nazism and denazification.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Look, the president of Ukraine <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Zelensky]</strong></span> visited Canada. The story is well known, but being silenced in the Western countries. The Canadian Parliament introduced a man who, as the speaker of the Parliament said, fought against the Russians during the World War II. Well, who fought against the Russians during the World War II? Hitler and his accomplices.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It turned out that this man served in the SS troops. He personally killed Russians, Poles and jews. The SS troops consisted of Ukrainian nationalists who did this dirty work. The president of Ukraine stood up with the entire Parliament of Canada and applauded this man! How can this be imagined? The president of Ukraine himself, by the way, is a jew by nationality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Really my question is, what do you do about it? I mean, Hitler’s been dead for 80 years. Nazi Germany no longer exists. And so, true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so I think what you’re saying is you want to extinguish or at least control Ukrainian nationalism. But how? How do you do that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Listen to me. Your question is very subtle, and I can tell you what I think. Do not take offense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Of course.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> This question appears to be subtle. It is quite pesky. You say Hitler has been dead for so many years. 80 years. But his example lives on. People who exterminated jews, Russians and Poles are alive. And the president, the current president of today’s Ukraine applauds him in the Canadian Parliament, gives a standing ovation! Can we say that we have completely uprooted this ideology if what we see is happening today? That is what denazification is in our understanding. We have to get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support this practice and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is that is what we mean.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Right. My question was a little more specific. It was, of course not a defense of Nazis, Neo or otherwise. It was a practical question. You don’t control the entire country. You don’t control Kiev. You don’t seem like you want to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So how do you eliminate a culture or an ideology or feelings, or a view of history, in a country that you don’t control? What do you do about that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, as strange as it may seem to you, during the negotiations in Istanbul, we did agree that. We have it all in writing. Neo-Nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it would be prohibited at the legislative level. Mr. Carson, we agreed on that. This, it turns out, can be done during the negotiation process. And there’s nothing humiliating for Ukraine as a modern, civilized state. Is any state allowed to promote Nazism? It is not, is it? That is it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Will there be talks? And why haven’t there been talks about resolving the conflict in Ukraine? Peace talks?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> They have been. They reached a very high stage of coordination of positions in a complex process. But still, they were almost finalized. But after we withdrew our troops from Kiev, as I have already said, the other side threw away all these agreements and obeyed the instructions of Western countries, European countries, and the United States, to fight Russia to the bitter end.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:03:21]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Moreover, the president of Ukraine, has legislated a ban on negotiating with Russia. He signed a decree forbidding everyone to negotiate with Russia. But how are we going to negotiate if he forbade himself and everyone to do this? We know that he is putting forward some ideas about this settlement, but in order to agree on something, we need to have a dialogue. Is that not right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, but you wouldn’t be speaking to the Ukrainian president. You’d be speaking to the American president. When was the last time you spoke to Joe Biden?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I cannot remember when I talked to him. I do not remember. We can look it up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> You don’t <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> remember?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> No! Why? Do I have to remember everything? I have my own things to do. We have domestic political affairs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, he’s funding the war that you’re fighting, so I would think that would be memorable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Well, yes, he funds, but I talked to him before the Special Military Operation of course. And I said to him then – by the way, I will not go into details, I never do. But I said to him then:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I believe that you are making a huge mistake of historic proportions by supporting everything that is happening there in Ukraine by pushing Russia away.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I told him. Told him repeatedly, by the way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think that would be correct if I stop here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> What did he say?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Ask him, please. It is easier for you are a citizen of the United States. Go and ask him. It is not appropriate for me to comment on our conversation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But you haven’t spoken to him since before February of 2022?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> No, we haven’t spoken. Certain contacts are being maintained though. Speaking of which, do you remember what I told you about my proposal to work together on a missile defense system?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You can ask all of them. All of them are safe and sound. Thank God. The former President. Condoleezza is safe and sound. And I think Mr. Gates and the current director of the intelligence agency, Mr. Burns. The then ambassador to Russia. In my opinion, a very successful ambassador, they were all witnesses to these conversations. Ask them. Same here, if you are interested in what Mr. President Biden responded to me. Ask him. At any rate, I talked to him about it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I’m definitely interested. But from the outside, it seems like this could devolve or evolve into something that brings the entire world into conflict and could initiate a nuclear launch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so why don’t you just call Biden and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Let’s work this out.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> What’s there to work out? It’s very simple. I repeat, we have contacts through various agencies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I will tell you what we are saying on this matter and what we are conveying to the US leadership:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“If you really want to stop fighting. You need to stop supplying weapons. It will be over within a few weeks. That’s it. And then we can agree on some terms. Before you do that, stop.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What’s easier? Why would I call him? What should I talk to him about? Or beg him for what?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:07:04]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> And what message did you get back?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’re going to deliver such and such weapons to Ukraine? Oh, I’m afraid! I’m afraid! Please don’t!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What is there to talk about?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you think NATO is worried about this becoming a global war, or a nuclear conflict?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> At least that’s what they’re talking about. And they’re trying to intimidate their own population with an imaginary Russian threat. This is an obvious fact. And thinking people, not philistines, but thinking people, analysts, those who are engaged in real politics, just smart people, understand perfectly well that this is a fake! They’re trying to fuel the Russian threat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> The threat I think you’re referring to is a Russian invasion of Poland, Latvia, expansionist behavior. Can you imagine a scenario where you send Russian troops to Poland.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Only in one case. If Poland attacks Russia. Why? Because we have no interest in Poland, Latvia or anywhere else. Why would we do that? We simply don’t have any interest. It’s just threat mongering.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, the argument I know, you know, this is that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, he invaded Ukraine. He has territorial aims across the continent.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you’re saying unequivocally you don’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> It is absolutely out of the question! You just don’t have to be any kind of analyst. It goes against common sense to get involved in some kind of a global war. And a global war will bring all humanity to the brink of destruction. It’s obvious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There are certainly means of deterrence. They have been steering everyone with us all along:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Tomorrow Russia will use tactical nuclear weapons! Tomorrow Russia will use that! No, the day after tomorrow!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what? In order to extort additional money from US taxpayers and European taxpayers in the confrontation with Russia in the Ukrainian theater of war. The goal is to weaken Russia as much as possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> One of our senior United States, Senators from the state of New York, Chuck Schumer, said yesterday, I believe that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We have to continue to fund the Ukrainian effort, or US soldiers, citizens, could wind up fighting there.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>How do you assess that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> This is a provocation, and a cheap provocation at that! I do not understand why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine. There are mercenaries from the United States there. The bigger number of mercenaries comes from Poland, with mercenaries from the United States in second place, and mercenaries from Georgia in third place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, if somebody has the desire to send regular troops, that would certainly bring humanity to the brink of very serious global conflict. This is obvious.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:10:41]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Do the United States need this? What for? Thousands of miles away from your national territory. Don’t you have anything better to do? You have issues on the border, issues with migration, issues with the national debt, more than $33 trillion. You have nothing better to do, so you should fight in Ukraine?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it be better to negotiate with Russia, make an agreement already understanding the situation that is developing today, realizing that Russia will fight for its interests to the end, and realizing this, actually return to common sense, start respecting our country and its interests, and look for certain solutions. It seems to me that this is much smarter and more rational.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Who blew up Nord Stream?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> for sure!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I was busy that day. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I did not blow up Nord Stream! Thank you, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, I won’t get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for someone who has capabilities. Because there may be many people interested, but not all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested and who is capable of doing it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But I’m confused. I mean, that’s the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever, and it’s the largest emission of CO2 in history.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably given your security services, your Intel services, you would, that NATO, the US, CIA, the West did this, why wouldn’t you present it and win a propaganda victory?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest European media are American financial institutions. Don’t you know that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it is possible to get involved in this work, but it is cost prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight on <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[expose]</strong></span> our sources of information and we will not achieve results.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It is clear to the whole world what happened, and even American analysts talk about it directly. It’s true.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Yes, but here’s a question you may be able to answer. You worked in Germany, famously. The Germans clearly know that their NATO partner did this, and it damaged their economy greatly. It may never recover. Why are they being silent about it? That’s very confusing to me. Why wouldn’t the Germans say something about it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:14:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> This also confuses me! But today’s German leadership is guided by the interests of the collective West rather than its national interests. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the logic of their action or inaction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After all, it is not only about Nord Stream 1, which was blown up, and the Nord Stream 2 was damaged. But one pipe is safe and sound, and gas can be supplied to Europe through it, but Germany does not open it. We are ready. Please!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There’s another route through Poland called Yamal Europe, which also allows for large flow. Poland has closed it, but Poland pecks from the German hand. It receives money from the pan-European funds, and Germany is the main donor to these pan-European funds. Germany feeds Poland to a certain extent, and they close their route to Germany. Why? I don’t understand.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Ukraine, to which the Germans supply weapons and give money. Germany is the second sponsor of the United States in terms of financial aid to Ukraine. There are two gas routes through Ukraine. They simply closed one route, the Ukrainians. Open the second route. And please get gas from Russia. They do not open it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why don’t the Germans say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look guys, we give you money and weapons. Open up the valve, please. Let the gas from Russia pass through for us. We’re buying liquefied gas at exorbitant prices in Europe, which brings the level of our competitiveness and economy in general down to zero. Do you want us to give you money? Let us have the decent existence, make money for our economy, because this is where the money we give you comes from.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They refuse to do. So why? Ask them! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[knocking on the table]</strong></span> That is what is like in their heads. Those are highly incompetent people!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, maybe the world is breaking into two hemispheres, one with cheap energy, the other without. And I want to ask you that. If we’re now a multipolar world, obviously we are. Can you describe the blocks of alliances? Who is in each side, do you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Listen, you have said that the world is breaking into two hemispheres. A human brain is divided into two hemispheres. One is responsible for one type of activities, the other one is more about creativity and so on. But it is still one in the same head. The world should be a single whole. Security should be shared rather than meant for the golden billion. That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Until then, while the head is split in two parts, it is an illness, a serious adverse condition. It is a period of severe disease that the world is going through now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I think that thanks to honest journalism, this work is akin to work of the doctors, this could somehow be remedied.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Well, let’s just give one example. The US dollar, which has kind of united the world in a lot of ways. Maybe not to your advantage, but certainly to ours. Is that going away as the reserve currency, the universally accepted currency? How have sanctions, do you think, changed the dollar’s place in the world?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:17:47]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, to use the dollar as a tool of foreign policy struggle is one of the biggest strategic mistakes made by the US political leadership. The dollar is the cornerstone of the United States power. I think everyone understands very well that no matter how many dollars are printed, they are quickly dispersed all over the world.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Inflation in the United States is minimal. It’s about three or 3.4%, which is, I think, totally acceptable for the US. But they won’t stop printing. What does the debt of $33 trillion tell us about? It is about the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[?]</strong></span> emission.</p>
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<p>Nevertheless, it is the main weapon used by the United States to preserve its power across the world.</p>
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<p>As soon as the political leadership decided to use the US dollar as a tool of political struggle, a blow was dealt to this American power. I would not like to use any strong language, but it is a stupid thing to do, and a grave mistake.</p>
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<p>Look at what is going on in the world. Even the United States allies are now downsizing their dollar reserves. Seeing this, everyone starts looking for ways to protect themselves.</p>
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<p>But the fact that the United States applies restrictive measures to certain countries, such as placing restrictions on transactions, freezing assets, et cetera, causes great concern and sends a signal to the whole world.</p>
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<p>What did we have here? Until 2022, about 80% of Russian foreign trade transactions were made in US dollars and Euros. US dollars accounted for approximately 50% of our transactions with third countries, while currently it is down to 13%. It wasn’t us who banned the use of the US dollar. We had no such intention. It was decision of the United States to restrict our transactions in US dollars. I think it is complete foolishness from the point of view of the interest of the United States itself and its taxpayers as it damages the US economy, undermines the power of the United States across the world.</p>
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<p>By the way, our transactions in yuan accounted for about 3%. Today, 34% of our transactions are made in rubles and about as much, a little over 34%, in yuan. Why did the United States do this? My only guess is self conceit. They probably thought it would lead to full collapse, but nothing collapsed.</p>
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<p>Moreover, other countries, including oil producers, are thinking of and already accepting payments for oil in yuan. Do you even realize what is going on or not? Does anyone in the United States realize this? What are you doing? You’re cutting yourself off! All experts say this. Ask any intelligent and thinking person in the United States what the dollar means for the US? You’re killing it with your own hands!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:21:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I think that’s a fair assessment. The question is, what comes next? And maybe you trade one colonial power for another much less sentimental and forgiving colonial power. I mean, is the BRICs, for example, in danger of being completely dominated by the Chinese, the Chinese economy, in a way that’s not good for their sovereignty? Do you worry about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> We have heard those boogeyman stories before. It is a boogeyman story! We’re neighbors with China. You cannot choose neighbors, just as you cannot choose close relatives. We share a border of thousands of kilometers with them. This is number 1 second. We have a centuries long history of coexistence. We’re used to it. Third, China’s foreign policy philosophy is not aggressive. Its idea is to always look for compromise. And we can see that.</p>
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<p>The next point is as follows. We are always told the same boogeyman story. And here it goes again through an euphemistic form. But it is still the same boogeyman’s story. The co-operation with China keeps increasing. The pace at which China’s co-operation with Europe is growing is higher and greater than that of the growth of Chinese-Russian co-operation. Ask Europeans. Aren’t they afraid? They might be? I don’t know. But they are still trying to access China’s market at all costs, especially now that they are facing economic problems. Chinese businesses are also exploring the European market.</p>
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<p>Do Chinese businesses have small presence in the United States? Yes. The political decisions are such that they are trying to limit their co-operation with China. It is to your own detriment, Mr. Tucker, that you are limiting co-operation with China. You are hurting yourself. It is a delicate matter, and there are no silver bullet solutions, just as it is with the dollar.</p>
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<p>So before introducing any illegitimate sanctions, illegitimate in terms of the Charter of the United nations, one should think very carefully. For decision makers, this appears to be a problem.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So you said a moment ago that the world would be a lot better if it weren’t broken into competing alliances, if there was co-operation globally.</p>
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<p>One of the reasons you don’t have that is because the current American administration is dead set against you. Do you think if there were a new administration after Joe Biden that you would be able to re-establish communication with the US government? Or does it not matter who the president is?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I will tell you, but let me finish the previous thought.</p>
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<p>We, together with my colleague and friend President XI Jinping, set a goal to reach $200 billion of mutual trade with China this year. We have exceeded this level. According to our figures, our bilateral trade with China totals already 230,000,000,000. And the Chinese statistics says it is $240,000,000,000. One more important thing, our trade is well balanced, mutually complementary in high tech, energy, scientific research and development. It is very balanced.</p>
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<p>As for BRICS, where Russia took over the presidency this year, the BRICS countries are, by and large, developing very rapidly. Look, if memory serves me right, back in 1992, the share of the G7 countries in the world economy amounted to 47%, whereas in 2022 it was down to, I think, a little over 30%. The BRICS countries accounted for only 16% in 1992, but now their share is greater than that of the G7. It has nothing to do with the events in Ukraine. This is due to the trends of global development and world economy, as I mentioned just now. And this is inevitable. This will keep happening. It is like the rise of the sun. You cannot prevent the sun from rising. You have to adapt to it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:26:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p>How do the United States adapt? With the help of force, sanctions, pressure, bombings and use of armed forces. This is about self conceit. Your political establishment does not understand that the world is changing under objective circumstances. And in order to preserve your level, even if someone aspires, pardon me, to the level of dominance, you have to make the right decisions in a competent and timely manner. Such brutal actions, including with regard to Russia, and say, other countries, are counterproductive. This is an obvious fact. It has already become evident.</p>
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<p>You just asked me if another leader comes and changes something. It is not about the leader. It is not about the personality of a particular person. I had a very good relationship with, say, Bush. I know that in the United States, he was portrayed as some kind of a country boy who does not understand much. I assure you that this is not the case. I think he made a lot of mistakes with regard to Russia, too. I told you about 2008 and the decision in Bucharest to open the NATO’s doors to for Ukraine and so on. That happened during his presidency. He actually exercised pressure on the Europeans.</p>
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<p>But in general, on a personal, human level, I had a very good relationship with him. He was no worse than any other American, or Russian, or European politician. I assure you he understood what he was doing as well as others. I had such personal relationship with Trump as well.</p>
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<p>It is not about the personality of the leader, it is about the elite’s mindset. If the idea of domination at any cost, based also on forceful actions, dominates the American society, nothing will change. It will only get worse. But if in the end, one comes to the awareness that the world has been changing due to the objective circumstances, and that one should be able to adapt to them in time, using the advantages that the US still has today, then perhaps something may change.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:29:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Look, China’s economy has become the first economy in the world in purchasing power parity. In terms of volume it overtook the US a long time ago. The USA comes second, then India, one and a half billion people, and then Japan, with Russia in the fifth place. Russia was the first economy in Europe last year despite all the sanctions and restrictions. Is it normal from your point of view? Sanctions, restrictions, impossibility of payments in dollars, being cut off from Swift services*, sanctions against our ships carrying oil, sanctions against airplanes, sanctions in everything, everywhere!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (Swift), legally S.W.I.F.T. SC, is a Belgian banking cooperative providing services related to the execution of financial transactions and payments between limited banks worldwide.]</span></p>
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<p>The largest number of sanctions in the world which are applied, are applied against Russia. And we have become Europe’s first economy during this time. The tools that us uses don’t work well. One has to think about what to do. If this realization comes to the ruling elites, then yes, then the first person of the state will act in anticipation of what the voters and the people who make decisions at various levels expect from this person. Then maybe something will change.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But you’re describing two different systems. You say that the leader acts in the interest of the voters, but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader, they’re made by the ruling classes. You’ve run this country for so long, you’ve known all these American presidents. What are those power centers in the United States, do you think? Like, who actually makes the decisions?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I don’t know! America is a complex country. Conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out. Who makes decisions in the elections? Is it possible to understand this when each state has its own legislation, each state regulates itself. Someone can be excluded from elections at the state level. It is a two stage electoral system. It is very difficult for us to understand it.</p>
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<p>Certainly there are two parties that are dominant, the Republicans and the Democrats. And within this party system, the centers that make decisions, that prepare decisions.</p>
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<p>Then look, why, in my opinion, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, such an erroneous, crude, completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against Russia.</p>
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<p>After all, this is a policy of pressure. NATO expansion, support for the separatists and caucuses, creation of a missile defense system. These are all elements of pressure. Pressure! Pressure! Pressure! Then dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure! Pressure! Pressure! Why? I think, among other things, because excessive production capacities were created. During the confrontation with the Soviet Union there were many centers created and specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else. They convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break it up, to create on this territory several quasi state entities and to subdue them in divided form to use their combined potential for the future struggle with China. This is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the Soviet Union. It is necessary to get rid of this. There should be new, fresh forces. People who look into the future and understand what is happening in the world.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:33:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Look at how Indonesia is developing. 600 million people. Where can we get away from that? Nowhere! We just have to assume that Indonesia will enter. It is already in the club of the world’s leading economies, no matter who likes it or dislikes it.</p>
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<p>Yes, we understand and are aware that in the United States, despite all the economic problems, the situation is still normal with the economy growing decently. The GDP is growing by 2.5%, if I’m not mistaken. But if we want to ensure the future, then we need to change our approach to what is changing. As I already said, the world would nevertheless change, regardless of how the developments in Ukraine end.</p>
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<p>The world is changing. In the United States themselves, experts are writing that the United States are nonetheless gradually changing their position in the world. It is your experts who write that. I just read them. The only question is how this would happen? Painfully and quickly or gently and gradually? And this is written by people who are not antiamerican. They simply follow global development trends. That’s it.</p>
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<p>And in order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think, look forward, can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I just have to ask. You’ve said clearly that NATO expansion eastward is a violation of the promise you all were made in 1990. It’s a threat to your country. Right before you sent troops into Ukraine, the Vice President of the United States went to the Munich Security Conference and encouraged the president of Ukraine to join NATO. Do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military action?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I repeat once again, we have repeatedly, repeatedly proposed to seek a solution to the problems that arose in Ukraine after 2014 coup d’etat, through peaceful means. But no one listened to us.</p>
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<p>And moreover, the Ukrainian leaders who were under the complete US control suddenly declared that they would not comply with the Minsk Agreements. They disliked everything there and continued military activity in that territory.</p>
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<p>And in parallel, that territory was being exploited by NATO military structures, under the guise of various personnel training and retraining centers. They essentially begun to create bases there. That’s all.</p>
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<p>Ukraine announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality while passing the laws that limit the rights of non-titular nationalities in Ukraine. Ukraine, having received all these southeastern territories as a gift from the Russian people, suddenly announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality in that territory. Is that normal?</p>
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<p>All this put together led to the decision to end the war that neo-Nazis started in Ukraine in 2014.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate a settlement to this conflict?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:36:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I don’t know the details. Of course it’s difficult for me to judge.</p>
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<p>But I believe he has, in any case, he used to have. His father fought against the fascists Nazis during World War II. I once talked to him about this. I said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Volodymyr, what are you doing? Why are you supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine today, while your father fought against fascism? He was a frontline soldier.”</span></h3>
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<p>I will not tell you what he answered. This is a separate topic and I think it’s incorrect for me to do so.</p>
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<p>But as to the freedom of choice, why not? He came to power on the expectations of Ukrainian people that he would lead Ukraine to peace. He talked about this. It was thanks to this that he won the elections overwhelmingly.</p>
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<p>But then when he came to power, in my opinion, he realized two things.</p>
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<p>Firstly, it is better not to clash with neo-Nazis and nationalists because they are aggressive and very active. You can expect anything from them.</p>
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<p>And secondly, the US led West supports them and will always support those who antagonize with Russia. It is beneficial and safe. So he took the relevant position despite promising his people to end the war in Ukraine. He deceived his voters.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But do you think at this point, as of February 2024, he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or your government directly about putting an end to this, which clearly isn’t helping his country or the world? Can he do that, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Why not? He considers himself head of state. He won the elections. Although we believe in Russia that the coup d’eta is the primary source of power for everything that happened after 2014. And in this sense, even today, government is flawed. But he considers himself the president and he is recognized by the United States, all of Europe and practically the rest of the world in such a capacity. Why not? He can. We negotiated with Ukraine in Istanbul. We agreed. He was aware of this.</p>
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<p>Moreover, the negotiation group leader, Mr. Arakhamia is his last name, I believe still has the faction of the ruling party, the party of the president in the Rada. He still has the presidential faction in the Rada, the country’s Parliament. He still sits there. He even put his preliminary signature on the document I am telling you about.</p>
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<p>But then he publicly stated to the whole world:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We were ready to sign this document, but Mr. Johnson, then the prime minister of Britain, came and dissuaded us from doing this, saying it was better to fight Russia. They would give everything needed for us to return what was lost during the clashes with Russia. And we agreed with this proposal.”</span></h3>
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<p>Look, his statement has been published. He said it publicly. Can they return to this or not? The question is, do they want it or not?</p>
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<p>Further on, the president of Ukraine issued a decree prohibiting negotiations with us. Let him cancel that decree, and that’s it. We have never refused negotiations. Indeed, we hear all the time:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Is Russia ready?”</span></h3>
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<p>Yes. We have not refused. It was them who publicly refused. Well, let him cancel his decree and enter into negotiations. We have never refused.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:40:26]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And the fact that they obeyed the demand or persuasion of Mr. Johnson, the former prime minister of Great Britain, seems ridiculous and very sad to me. Because, as Mr. Arakhamia put it:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We could have stopped those hostilities with war a year and a half ago already. But the British persuaded us and we refused this.”</span></h3>
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<p>Where is Mr. Johnson now? And the war continues.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> That’s a good question. Where do you think he is and why did he do that?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Hell knows! I don’t understand it myself. There was a general starting point. For some reason, everyone had the illusion that Russia could be defeated on the battlefield, because of arrogance, because of a pure heart, but not because of a great mind.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> You’ve described the connection between Russia and Ukraine. You’ve described Russia itself a couple of times as Orthodox. That’s central to your understanding of Russia. You’ve said you’re Orthodox. What does that mean for you? You’re a Christian leader by your own description, so what effect does that have on you?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, as I already mentioned, in 988, Prince Vladimir himself was baptized, following the example of his grandmother, Princess Olga.</p>
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<p>And then he baptized his squad. And then gradually, over the course of several years, he baptized all the Rus. It was a lengthy process, from pagans to Christians. It took many years. But in the end, this orthodoxy, Eastern Christianity, deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the Russian people. When Russia expanded and absorbed other nations who profess Islam, Buddhism and Judaism, Russia has always been very loyal to those people who profess other religions. This is her strength. This is absolutely clear!</p>
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<p>And the fact is that the main postulates, main values are very similar, not to say the same in all world religions I’ve just mentioned, which are the traditional religions of the Russian Federation, Russia.</p>
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<p>By the way, Russian authorities were always very careful about the culture and religion of those people who came into the Russian Empire. This, in my opinion, forms the basis of both security and stability of the Russian statehood. All the peoples inhabiting Russia basically consider it their motherhood. If, say, people move over to you or to Europe from Latin America, an even clearer and more understandable example, people come, but yet they have come to you or to European countries from their historical homeland. And people who profess different religions in Russia consider Russia their motherland. They have no other motherland. We are together. This is one big family and our traditional values are very similar.</p>
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<p>I’ve just mentioned one big family, but everyone has his her own family. And this is the basis of our society. And if we say that the motherland and the family are specifically connected with each other. It is indeed the case, since it is impossible to ensure a normal future for our children and our families unless we ensure a normal, sustainable future for the entire country, for the motherland. That is why patriotic sentiment is so strong in Russia.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:44:33]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Can I say this. The one way in which the religions are different is that Christianity is specifically a nonviolent religion. Jesus says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Turn the other cheek, don’t kill.”</span></h3>
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<p>How can a leader who has to kill, of any country, how can a leader be a Christian? How do you reconcile that to yourself?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> It is very easy. When it comes to protecting oneself and one’s family, one’s homeland. We won’t attack anyone.</p>
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<p>When did the developments in Ukraine start? Since the coup d’etat and the hostilities in Donbas began, that’s when they started. And we’re protecting our people, ourselves, our homeland and our future.</p>
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<p>As for religion in general, it’s not about external manifestations. It’s not about going to church every day or banging your head on the floor. It is in the heart. And our culture is so human oriented. Dostoevsky, who was very well known in the West, and the genius of Russian culture, Russian literature, spoke a lot about this, about the Russian soul.</p>
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<p>After all, Western society is more pragmatic. Russian people think more about the eternal, about moral values. I don’t know, maybe you won’t agree with me, but Western culture is more pragmatic, after all. I’m not saying this is bad. It makes it possible for today’s golden billion to achieve good success in production, even in science and so on.</p>
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<p>There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m just saying that we kind of look the same, but own minds, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So do you see the supernatural at work? As you look out across what’s happening in the world now, do you see God at work? Do you ever think to yourself:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“These are forces that are not human?”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> No, to be honest, I don’t think so. my opinion is that the development of the world community is in accordance with inherent laws and those laws are what they are. It’s always been this way in the history of mankind. Some nations and countries rose, became stronger and more numerous, and then left the international stage, losing the status they had been accustomed to.</p>
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<p>There is probably no need for me to give examples, but we could start with with Genghis Khan and horde conquers, the Golden Horde and then end with the Roman Empire. It seems that there has never been anything like the Roman Empire in the history of mankind.</p>
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<p>Nevertheless, the potential of the barbarians gradually grew, as did their population. In general the barbarians were getting stronger and begun to develop economically, as we would say today. This eventually led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the regime imposed by the Romans.</p>
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<p>However, it took five centuries for the Roman Empire to fall apart. The difference with what is happening now is that all the processes of change are happening at the much faster pace than in Roman times.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:48:35]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So when does the AI empire start, do you think?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> You’re asking increasingly more complicated questions! To answer them, you need to be an expert in big numbers, big data, and AI. Mankind is currently facing many threats. Due to the genetic research, it is now possible to create a superhuman, a specialized human being, a genetically engineered athlete, scientist, military man.</p>
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<p>There are reports that Elon Musk has already had a chip implanted in the human brain in the USA.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> What do you think of that?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Well, I think there’s no stopping Elon Musk. He will do as he sees fit.</p>
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<p>Nevertheless, you need to find some common ground with him, search for ways to persuade him. I think he’s a smart person. I truly believe he is.</p>
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<p>So you need to reach an agreement with him, because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules.</p>
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<p>Humanity has to consider what is going to happen due to the newest development in genetics, or in AI. One can make an approximate prediction of what will happen.</p>
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<p>Once mankind felt an existential threat coming from nuclear weapons, all nuclear nations began to come to terms with one another, since they realized these negligent use of nuclear weaponry could drive humanity to extinction. It is impossible to stop research in genetics or AI today, just as it was impossible to stop the use of gunpowder back in the day.</p>
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<p>But as soon as we realize that the threat comes from unbridled and uncontrolled development of AI or genetics, or any other field, the time will come to reach an international agreement on how to regulate these things.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I appreciate all the time you’ve given us. I just got to ask you one last question, and that’s about someone who’s very famous in the United States, probably not here, Evan Gershkovitz, who’s the Wall Street Journal reporter. He’s 32, and he’s been in prison for almost a year. This is a huge story in the United States, and I just want to ask you directly, without getting into the tales of it or your version of what happened, if, as a sign of your decency, you would be willing to release him to us, and we’ll bring him back to the United States.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:51:38]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sighing]</strong></span> We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them! We have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner.</p>
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<p>However, in theory, we can say that we do not rule out that we can do that, if our partners take reciprocal steps. When I talk about the partners, I first of all refer to special services. Special services are in contact with one another. They are talking about the matter in question. There is no taboo to settle this issue. We are willing to solve it. But there are certain terms being discussed via special services channels. I believe an agreement can be reached.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> This stuff has happened for obviously, centuries. One country catches another spy within its borders, it trades it for one of its own Intel guys in another country. I think what makes, and it’s not my business, but what makes this difference is the guy’s obviously not a spy. He’s a kid <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32 year old]</strong></span>! And maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he’s not a super spy and everybody knows that. And he’s being held hostage in exchange. Which is true. With respect, it’s true and everyone knows it’s true.</p>
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<p>So maybe he’s in a different category. Maybe it’s not fair to ask for somebody else in exchange for letting him out. Maybe it degrades Russia to do that?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, you can give different interpretations to what constitutes a spy, but there are certain things provided by law. If a person gets secret information and does that in conspiratorial manner, then this is qualified as espionage. And that is exactly what he was doing. He was receiving classified, confidential, information and he did it covertly. Maybe he did that out of carelessness or his own initiative.</p>
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<p>Considering the sheer fact this is qualified as espionage. The fact has been proven as he was caught red handed when he was receiving this information. If it had been some far fetched excuse, fabrication, something not proven, it would have been different story then. But he was caught red handed when he was secretly getting confidential information. What is it then?</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> But are you suggesting that he was working for the US government or NATO? Or he was just a reporter who was given material he wasn’t supposed to have? Those seem like very different, very different things.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I don’t know who he was working for. But I would like to reiterate that getting classified information in secret is called espionage. And he was working for the US special services, some other agencies. I don’t think he was working for Monaco, as Monaco is hardly interested in getting that information. It is up to special services to come to an agreement. Some groundwork has been laid. There are people who in our view, are not connected with special services.</p>
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<p>Let me tell you a story about a person serving a sentence in an allied country of the US. That person, due to patriotic sentiments, eliminated a bandit in one of the European capitals during the events in the Caucasus. Do you know what he <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[the bandit]</strong></span> was doing? I don’t want to say that, but I will do it anyway. He was laying our soldiers, taken prisoner, on the road and then drove his car over their heads. What kind of person is that? Can he even be called human?</p>
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<p>But there was a patriot who eliminated him in one of the European capitals. Whether he did it of his own volition or not, that is a different question.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:56:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> That’s a completely different, … 32 year old newspaper reporter, …</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> He committed something different. He’s not just a journalist, I reiterate. He’s a journalist who was secretly getting confidential information! Yes, it is different, but still I’m talking about other people who are essentially controlled by the US authorities, wherever they are serving a sentence. There is an ongoing dialogue between the special services. This has to be resolved in a calm, responsible and professional manner. They are keeping in touch, so let them do their work.</p>
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<p>I do not rule out that the person you refer to, Mr. Gershkovich, may return to his motherland. By the end of the day it does not make any sense to keep him in prison in Russia. We want the US special services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals our special services are pursuing. We are ready to talk.</p>
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<p>Moreover, the talks are underway and there have been many successful examples of these talks crowned with success. Probably this is going to be crowned with success as well.</p>
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<p>But we have to come to an agreement.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I hope you let him out.</p>
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<p>Mr. President, thank you.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> I also want him to return to his homeland at last. I’m absolutely sincere! But let me say once again, the dialogue continues. The more public we render things of this nature, the more difficult it becomes to resolve them. Everything has to be done in a calm manner.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> I wonder if that’s true with the war though, also, I guess I want to ask one more question, which is, and maybe you don’t want to say so for strategic reasons. But are you worried that what’s happening in Ukraine could lead to something much larger and much more horrible? And how motivated are you just to call the US government and say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Let’s come to terms.”?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I already said that we did not refuse to talk. We are willing to negotiate. It is the Western side, and Ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the US. It is evident. I do not want you to take it as if I’m looking for a strong word or an insult, but we both understand what is happening.</p>
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<p>The financial support, $72 billion was provided. Germany ranks second. Then other European countries come. Dozens of billions of US dollars are going to Ukraine. There’s a huge influx of weapons. In this case you should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to a negotiating table, rescind this absurd decree. We did not refuse.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[1:59:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Sure. But you already said, and I didn’t think you meant it as an insult because you already said, correctly, it’s been reported that Ukraine was prevented from negotiating a peace settlement by the former British prime minister acting on behalf of the Biden administration. So, of course there are satellites, big countries control small countries. That’s not new.</p>
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<p>And that’s why I asked about dealing directly with the Biden administration, which is making these decisions, not President Zelensky of Ukraine.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Well, if the Zelensky administration in Ukraine refused to negotiate, I assume they did it under the instruction from Washington. If Washington believes it to be the wrong decision, let it abandon it! Let it find a delicate excuse so that no one is insulted. Let it come up with a way out. It was not us who made this decision. It was them. So let them go back on it. That is it.</p>
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<p>However, they made the wrong decision, and now we have to look for a way out of this situation, to correct their mistakes. They did it, so let them correct it themselves. We support this.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> So I just want to make sure I’m not misunderstanding what you’re saying. I don’t think that I am. I think you’re saying you want a negotiated settlement to what’s happening in Ukraine.</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> Right! And we made it. We prepared the huge document in Istanbul that was initialed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to some of the provisions, not to all of it. He put his signature and then he himself said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, 18 months ago, however, Prime Minister Johnson came, talked us out of it, and we missed that chance.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, you missed it. You made a mistake. Let them get back to that. That is all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else’s mistakes?</p>
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<p>I know one can say it is our mistake. It was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 in Donbas. As I have already said, by means of weapons.</p>
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<p>Let me get back to furthering history. I already told you, we were just discussing. Let us go back to 1991, when we were promised that NATO would not expand, to 2008, when the doors to NATO opened to the declaration of state sovereignty of Ukraine, declaring Ukraine a neutral state. Let us go back to the fact that NATO and US military bases started to appear on the territory of Ukraine, creating threats to us. Let us go back to coup d’eta in Ukraine in 2014. It is pointless though, isn’t it? We may go back and forth endlessly, but they stop negotiations. Is it a mistake? Yes. Correct it! We are ready. What else is needed?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:02:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Do you think it’s too humiliating at this point for NATO to accept Russian control of what was two years ago Ukrainian territory?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> I said, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sighing]</strong></span> let them think how to do it with dignity. There are options if there is a will.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Up until now, there has been the uproar and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now they are apparently coming to realize that it is difficult to achieve, if possible at all! In my opinion, it is impossible by definition. It is never going to happen! It seems to me that now those who are in power in the West have come to realize this as well. If so, if the realization has set in, they have to think what to do next. We are ready for this dialogue.</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> Would you be willing to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Congratulations NATO, you won!”</span></h3>
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<p>And just keep the situation where it is now?</p>
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<p><strong>Vladimir Putin:</strong> You know, it is a subject matter for the negotiations no one is willing to conduct. Or to put it more accurately, they are willing, but do not know how to do it. I know they want it. It is not just I see it, but I know they do want it. But they are struggling to understand how to do it. They have driven the situation to the point where we are at. It is not us who have done that. It is our partners, opponents, who have done that. Well, now let them think how to reverse the situation. We’re not against it. It would be funny if it were not so sad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This endless mobilization in Ukraine, the hysteria, the domestic problems. Sooner or later it will result in agreement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, this probably sounds strange given the current situation, but the relations between the two peoples will be rebuilt anyway. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sighing]</strong></span> It will take a lot of time, but they will heal.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’ll give you very unusual examples. There is a combat encounter on the battlefield. Here’s specific example. Ukrainian soldiers got encircled. This is an example from real life. Our soldiers were shouting to them:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no chance. Surrender yourselves. Come out and you will be alive.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Suddenly the Ukrainian soldiers were screaming from there in Russian. Perfect Russian, saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Russians do not surrender!”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And all of them perished. They still identify themselves as Russian.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What is happening is to a certain extent an element of a civil war. Everyone in the West thinks that the Russian people have been split by hostilities forever. No. They will be reunited. The unity is still there. Why are the Ukrainian authorities dismantling the Ukrainian Orthodox Church? Because it brings together not only the territory, it brings together our souls. No one will be able to separate the soul. Shall we end here, or is there anything else?</p>
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<p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> No, I think that’s great! Thank you, Mr. President.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[END]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:07:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization. Societies are defined by what they will not permit. What we’re watching is the total inversion of virtue!</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2:07:18]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Youtube Comments</span></h3>
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<p>(Comments as of 2/18/2024 = 294,245 (Only 1st level comments shown)</p>
<p>@TuckerCarlson<br />
Pinned by Tucker Carlson<br />
@TuckerCarlson<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watch my immediate reaction to the interview here: https://bit.ly/3SxeZBY<br />
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552 replies</p>
<p>@armageddon1403<br />
8 days ago<br />
Now we are eagerly waiting for a Russian journalist coming to USA and interviewing Biden for two hours. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>591 replies</p>
<p>@justira8296<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker was not prepared for such long historical lecture <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>21 replies</p>
<p>@serenellas691<br />
1 day ago<br />
Grande grande grande Tucker!<br />
Li hai stracciati tutti, sono verdi di invidia, questa intervista passerà alla storia e sta già facendo la storia<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@the_peace_bear<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Let’s pray for peace please.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@johnniejett9363<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Russian to English translator did an EXCELLENT JOB!!!!!<br />
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654 replies</p>
<p>@zachary2393<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Interestingly, if you type into Youtube &#8220;Tucker Carlsen interviews Putin&#8221; you won&#8217;t find this full-length interview but rather critiques of it from &#8216;The Young Turks&#8217; and other whiney Youtubers that hate everything Tucker stands for&#8230; that should tell you everything you need to know about Youtube and it&#8217;s &#8216;unbiased&#8217; algorithms.<br />
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<p>@carolaraujo2970<br />
1 day ago<br />
Eu sempre fico intrigada em como uma boa parte dos entrevistadores norte americanos são totalmente ingênuos em relação aos estados unidos… em relação de como é feito a politica externa do país…<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@polina4067<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Спасибо<br />
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<p>@ahmedofficialwarner<br />
13 hours ago<br />
I’m loving this interview<br />
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<p>@cayito1122<br />
1 day ago<br />
When is the interview with Kim Joug Un? Can&#8217;t wait for that one. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62c.png" alt="😬" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@Jinseual<br />
7 days ago<br />
That 20 minutes was probably the longest &#8220;1 minute 30 second explanation of history&#8221; Tucker Carlson ever had.<br />
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<p>460 replies</p>
<p>@caviarandcrumpets<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Fantastic interview, would subscribe to their podcast!<br />
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<p>@trevormawulana980<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you Tucker for this great piece of work<br />
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<p>@svetlanar7430<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you for this interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@vikasv9687<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks for doing this.<br />
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<p>@lobotrolx<br />
1 day ago<br />
I’m shocked and amazed the US Gov has allowed you to show this very impactful interview. Thank you for having the guts to be a journalist that is willing to show transparency <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44c-1f3fd.png" alt="👌🏽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> EXCELLENT WORK!<br />
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<p>@thomass1891<br />
7 days ago<br />
As a person that speaks Russian, I must say the interpreter did an outstanding job.<br />
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<p>@jordanbeagle5779<br />
1 day ago<br />
A great example of Brandolini’s law. It takes more effort to counter bullshit than to spew it.<br />
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<p>@Legionary-Assassin<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Thank you tucker. This is important stuff to report on.<br />
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<p>@OurEyesYourEyes<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Good job, Tucker!!!! Great as always.<br />
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<p>@alexanderren1097<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Wow. That was a powerful finishing statement. Tucker, I heard your voice crack slightly at the end afterwards. Well done<br />
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<p>@jansecj9472<br />
11 hours ago<br />
great interview<br />
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<p>@derrekmitchell1012<br />
7 days ago<br />
10 million views<br />
in a day and it&#8217;s not listed as trending <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f644.png" alt="🙄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@shinyy187<br />
8 hours ago<br />
38:10 That&#8217;s exactly how it is.<br />
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<p>@emanuelme6886<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Peace for the world<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@MikeM-pr7po<br />
15 hours ago<br />
YouTube is trying hard to shadow ban this interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Skizzler.<br />
18 hours ago<br />
VP sat there and broke not a sweat! JB could NEVER! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Youngdolphforlife<br />
11 hours ago<br />
These two need a podcast<br />
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<p>@GibranCastillo<br />
8 days ago<br />
Peace for Russians, Ukrainians, and everyone else involved in the war<br />
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<p>164 replies</p>
<p>@connornicholas8628<br />
1 day ago<br />
Love that this interview happened.<br />
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<p>@kevdes2564<br />
13 hours ago<br />
I would recommend Tucker do a second interview if possible with more questions<br />
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<p>@TylerWest1776<br />
1 day ago<br />
Why is this video not on trending? 17 Million views<br />
in 1 week and close to 1 Million likes. Hmmm&#8230;typical YouTube behavior<br />
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<p>@Lola-yx9gb<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Great job. Thank you.<br />
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<p>@manishmhetre6<br />
1 day ago<br />
Yeah I agree too!<br />
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<p>@prototechnic1680<br />
8 days ago<br />
2 million views<br />
in 6 hrs!!! Checked the trending tab and it’s not even listed. Completely absurd<br />
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<p>@maryalxndra26<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Thank you for letting us hear Mr. Putin! We need conversations, discussions, and more understanding. Especially for us citizens to make better choices on a political level!<br />
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<p>@MrRaja<br />
1 day ago<br />
That russian accented russian to English translation was chef&#8217;s kiss to this interview.<br />
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<p>@dennisdunn8892<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Putin is a Smart man.<br />
I didn&#8217;t realize it before.<br />
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<p>@ReadWriteBlu<br />
1 day ago<br />
So far historical events have been quoted. History repeats itself, for Better or worse.<br />
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<p>@rexslay7264<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great interview<br />
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<p>@infinity697<br />
8 days ago<br />
Shout-out to the translator, the unsung hero of this interview<br />
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<p>@minuteofcan<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Fantastic interview, I love that things like this are happening.<br />
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<p>@marcelotunoni689<br />
1 day ago<br />
This Video was extremely reassuring when it came down to all the data we processed and very accurate<br />
thanks Carlson<br />
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<p>@jamesstahl726<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Tucker Carlson is a journalist again!!!!!!<br />
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<p>@cesmith777<br />
1 day ago<br />
The entire time I was only able to think how nice it would be to have a leader that can form complete and coherent sentences.<br />
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<p>15 replies</p>
<p>@jairocorrea1145<br />
1 hour ago<br />
God Bless you tucker. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fe.png" alt="🙏🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@MILETANTAS<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
02:00 Putin gives a history of Russia &amp; Ukraine<br />
25:04 NATO Expansion<br />
30:40 NATO &amp; Bill Clinton<br />
41:10 Ukraine<br />
48:30 What triggered this conflict?<br />
01:02:37 A peaceful solution?<br />
01:11:33 Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?<br />
01:24:13 Re-establishing communication with the US<br />
01:36:33 How powerful is Zelensky?<br />
01:48:36 Elon Musk &amp; AI<br />
01:51:07 Imprisoned American journalist Evan Gershkovich<br />
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<p>71 replies</p>
<p>@sddonzori4734<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Real journalism, and i think this will get tucker to be remembered outside these leftist bullshit times<br />
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<p>@user-kc9ns7qj4e<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Good jog Tucker. I respect you<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-bj8no9dv2e<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Спасибо)<br />
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<p>@XisoKingsQueens<br />
15 hours ago (edited)<br />
As an African speaking 2 languages, this was astounding &#8230; Interpretations was damn near flawless &#8230; Now, comments on the interview itself &#8230;<br />
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<p>@user-sm9sv3ie9t<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Thank you so much Mr. Carlson.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@elijahpositive2995<br />
8 days ago<br />
As a russian language native speaker as well as english edvanced speaker let me inform that this was one of the best snd closest to the source translations I&#8217;ve ever heard. It is so important when it comes to international relations!<br />
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<p>98 replies</p>
<p>@user-lz9zp3fv6y<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Thank you Mr. Carlson!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f91d-1f3fb.png" alt="🤝🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@criptovida<br />
6 hours ago<br />
The man was not reading anywhere, he gave a good context, thanks for sharing this interview Tucker.<br />
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<p>@qualityhandymanservices3472<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Talk about having receipts!<br />
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<p>@samg2842<br />
6 hours ago<br />
A great interview thank you for this. I&#8217;ve wanted to hear Putin&#8217;s take on the situation for a very long time.<br />
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<p>@bishnujoshi1938<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Those peoples are scholar and legends who are watching this interview.<br />
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<p>@seanmccarney271<br />
8 days ago<br />
i dont know who was translating this interview, but give that man a raise!<br />
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<p>63 replies</p>
<p>@ram..ram..<br />
21 hours ago<br />
What’s prompting Tucker to passionately defend this particular journalist?<br />
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<p>@sameepinspires2669<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Great job, mate<br />
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<p>@esodmumixam2053<br />
19 hours ago<br />
How works the view counter ?<br />
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<p>@marcweiss6882<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Whatever whoever thinks about this interview: thank you Mr. Carlson for this!<br />
3</p>
<p>@towerbay2759<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Good Job congratulation<br />
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<p>@es5121<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
Being bilingual, I must say that the interpreter did an amazing job here.<br />
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<p>84 replies<br />
@cecens98<br />
3 hours ago<br />
let&#8217;s all come together and bring peace back to this world<br />
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<p>@haleydoe644<br />
13 hours ago<br />
It was very interesting to hear about the Kievan Rus from him. I&#8217;m descended from Vladmir the Great, a branch that was married into the Capetian Kings of France. I spent years and 300 pages verifying what I could.<br />
I wish I could have made it that simple.<br />
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<p>@badisbouchama1801<br />
22 hours ago<br />
NATO would not have any reason to exist if Russia joined<br />
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<p>@sushinktattoo1366<br />
1 day ago<br />
Is there non dubbed version of this? Where both can be understood by dual linguists<br />
2</p>
<p>@ArgejaaChandan<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Good<br />
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<p>@METALADIX<br />
7 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m amazed that the full interview is actually on YouTube.<br />
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<p>41 replies</p>
<p>@sophytan5049<br />
21 hours ago<br />
The truth is the fact and real things that whole world should listen by wide heart.<br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
1 hour ago (edited)<br />
Navalny forever in our hearts<br />
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<p>@edkovaleski8350<br />
57 minutes ago<br />
Access journalism!<br />
2</p>
<p>@susiehaddock6224<br />
1 day ago<br />
Very respectable effort on both part. Grateful to get more insite. God bless them.<br />
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<p>@Dave-dy7fs<br />
6 hours ago<br />
My question is how many people who watched this knew the true reason why Russia was at war with Ukraine? Because I read about this over a year ago. No news network was broadcasting this!<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@DeaconHo<br />
1 day ago<br />
The translator’s voice was quite ominous yet soothing to hear.<br />
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<p>20 replies</p>
<p>@user-pg7qe7td7q<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Good to see ya doing alright<br />
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<p>@user-um8oo3wz6u<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you so much for going the extra mile, we need people like you. God Bless .<br />
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<p>@roychong5827<br />
17 hours ago<br />
very very very very VERY VERY VERY VERY REALLY EFFING WEIRD ONLY COMMENTS OF PRAISE<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@efstratioskirtsios298<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Thanks for bringing this to the West. There is no chance any other would do&#8230;<br />
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<p>@danieladams8085<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I think we should have tucker over there getting information for americans why we are going broke<br />
2</p>
<p>@oceanwavesES<br />
7 days ago<br />
when I saw the length of the interview over 2 hours I was like no way I&#8217;m going to see it all. I just reached the end and I want to know more<br />
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<p>26 replies</p>
<p>@jamesspencer6222<br />
1 hour ago<br />
I gotta say. Its nice to hear an outside pov of the US and it is extremely nice to hear from the Russian president himself what and why the Ukraine conflict started. Do i know whats true and false? No but its very helpful to hear his side of the story instead of being told through our news a 1 sided pov. Thank you mr carlson for going the distance to ask the questions we the people want answered and being patient enough to listen through the entire interview.<br />
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<p>@D.A.G.1967<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Такер, ты настоящий мужчина.<br />
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<p>@samanhesampoor8670<br />
1 day ago<br />
thats what we need<br />
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<p>@user-jv9lz3fg5t<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you very much mister Carlson! Your brave deed takes this word a hope. I&#8217;m really happy this video attracts millions of people who want to know the truth. Or at least not the truth, but the point of view of the President of Russia.<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f49c.png" alt="💜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2728.png" alt="✨" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> You are great!<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
There is a reason why you listen when putin speaks its cause you gotta learn more about history<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@kryzieg<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Here are some timestamps:<br />
0:00:00 — Introduction<br />
0:02:00 — History of Russia and Ukraine<br />
0:25:04 — NATO expansion<br />
0:30:40 — NATO and Bill Clinton<br />
0:41:10 — Ukraine<br />
0:48:30 — Cause of the conflict<br />
0:55:21 — What is de-nazification?<br />
1:02:37 — Peaceful resolution?<br />
1:11:33 — Who blew up Nord Stream?<br />
1:24:13 — Restoring ties with the USA<br />
1:36:33 — How strong is Zelensky?<br />
1:48:36 — Elon Musk and AI<br />
1:51:07 — Evan Gershkovich arrest in Russia<br />
comment if missing any important parts<br />
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<p>36 replies</p>
<p>@mco119jj<br />
1 day ago<br />
For what it&#8217;s worth&#8230;this dude speaks English, or at least he understands it well, guaranteed. He&#8217;s just a crafty enough fellow to understand that pretending to wait for the translation gives you a pause during which you can think about what was said, then decide how to respond. Whatever else you think of him, it&#8217;s a smart move.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@hanmensun7019<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Americans should especially watch this, your media don’t tell you even though you are a democratic country<br />
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<p>@signallight700<br />
11 hours ago<br />
I witching this interview more than 15 times,<br />
Every time I discovered that I have to witching again<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@ambrosebarigyemukiga<br />
1 day ago<br />
Translator needs a huge pay rise..He did a very great job<br />
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<p>@lixiangfeiukusa1<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great interview!!! You should visit China and interview the leader there! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@inauzn<br />
8 days ago<br />
This interview was better than watching a good movie in the theaters. That’s how good it was! Go Tuck C!<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@k_v_k_m<br />
1 day ago<br />
I do love this interview with a calm and confident leader<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-ey1ex8ib4u<br />
11 hours ago<br />
This is informative. Thank you. First hand by himself.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@zambarau2072<br />
3 hours ago<br />
He actually said &#8220;Thank God you didn&#8217;t get into the CIA.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@Dionis-uy8pq<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Спасибо Такер за интервью.<br />
Найти его действительно не так просто. Его скрывают видимо.<br />
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<p>@maxthalmann5865<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Its good to listen to both sides<br />
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<p>@mallorieryan9573<br />
9 days ago<br />
Amazing work Tucker, thanks to you , your team, and Mr Putin for allowing this interview. Power to you!!<br />
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<p>@richfowler9893<br />
2 hours ago<br />
this is one of the best 2 hours that I have spent on youtube in a long time.:)<br />
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<p>@AnythingOutdoorswithSteve<br />
1 day ago<br />
What an amazing interview! An extremely bold move for Tucker, while putting his life on the line. He may not be safe yet, even though he is back home, our government is vengeful. Now i am probably placing myself on that list!<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@abzinhoo<br />
1 day ago<br />
Yes</p>
<p>@cohen855<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Tucker was very brave to under take not a interview but go against a very powerful and cleary unlawful government<br />
They wont forget it ,id be concerned if i was him ,but he has shown journalism used to know no boundaries<br />
Today journalism is a way to deliver your agenda<br />
3</p>
<p>@seinfeldfan442<br />
1 day ago<br />
This video came up straight away.<br />
8</p>
<p>@heikobuse6086<br />
7 days ago<br />
The German Translation of this interview is &#8220;no longer available&#8221; on YouTube. It has been tranlated on the channel &#8220;Paul Brandenburg&#8221;. Thanks god, my English is good enough for the original (thanks VPN)<br />
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<p>20 replies</p>
<p>@user-ot3ql4dp4j<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Tucker, your a god damn hero<br />
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<p>@rustonelliott8004<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Imagine a full 10 minute interview with even a fraction of the transparent/unscripted interview that this was. He didn’t insult anyone, did not consult anyone to see if he could answer or how to answer, and last but not least he was sincere in my opinion.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@aniqatiq731<br />
7 hours ago<br />
What a interview.<br />
2</p>
<p>@joenelson4715<br />
1 day ago<br />
Crazy how Tucker drowned in a canoe while his dinner was on the table in the middle of the night R.I.P. gonna miss him!<br />
6</p>
<p>@user-yp2gv1hu2q<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good job ! Mr Carlson ! You look very handsome and clear head in the interview !<br />
1</p>
<p>@Through-The-Earth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Thank you for honest journalism!<br />
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<p>@robinsalvatoreofficial8909<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Tucker is brave , his life is at risk in USA . They jailed julian assange for being honest and giving free speech about the US atrocities in iraq . Now I&#8217;m worried if they could do the same to Honorable Tucker Carlson .<br />
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<p>@elizabethcardinale6255<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you Tucker! You have done a great job putting this interview on your network.<br />
4</p>
<p>@JM-it2zo<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Youtube sure likes to hide shit that matters<br />
6</p>
<p>@raf4014<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Bravissimo<br />
2</p>
<p>@daveb5035<br />
9 days ago<br />
God bless you tucker. A true journalist doing actual journalist interviews<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@1kuhny<br />
8 hours ago<br />
I would assume tucker had a translator in his ear too right? It seemed like he was able to understand him fairly quickly<br />
1</p>
<p>@artinkhoodian8824<br />
1 day ago<br />
Much love brother!! God bless!!<br />
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<p>@garbageman9145<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker can you have a simmilar interview with Biden, I&#8217;m interested on his thoughts on all this are<br />
3</p>
<p>@Stickboyy21<br />
1 day ago<br />
we had a legal lecture at my university today. we debated about the whole Russia ukraine War and my classmate based all his arguments on this topic<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> i then decided to come see for myself<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@cammylabay5014<br />
1 day ago<br />
My roku tv won&#8217;t let me play it from the roku youtube app or project it from my phone<br />
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<p>@MrFutbol067<br />
8 days ago<br />
I want a two hour interview with President Biden next. I’m serious Tucker! Reach out to the president ask for the same courtesy you received in Russia. When they give you their no answer tell the American people why this administration will not give them the courtesy of their leader being asked the same questions. The real reason is that the current administration is in capable of a 22 minute interview much less a 2 hour one.<br />
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<p>37 replies</p>
<p>@rosenrytter<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thank you for the interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270a-1f3fb.png" alt="✊🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@katrinafadeeva5642<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Beautiful work by Tucker Carlson <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@lumeronswift<br />
1 day ago<br />
Strangely, neither of you referred to Snowden or Assange<br />
2</p>
<p>@tuanquang695<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Việt Nam chúng tôi chúc các bạn 1 năm mới vui vẻ và tràn đầy hạnh phúc <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> yêu các bạn<br />
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<p>@rantingcullinarian<br />
1 day ago<br />
End the stupid support of Ukraine.<br />
9</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@queenredspecial<br />
7 days ago<br />
This translator is a hero. This is the only dubbed interview I have ever enjoyed.<br />
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<p>14 replies</p>
<p>@prudentianavanvladeraecken7060<br />
53 minutes ago<br />
finally a &#8220;true&#8221; conversation. Thanks<br />
2</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@atyafatima386<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Tucker, you are great. Keep up the good work. And my respect for Putin keeps on increasing all the time. May good sense prevails in the West. It is trying hard to provoke WW III.<br />
3</p>
<p>@antonyM82<br />
3 hours ago<br />
TuckerCarlson ты красавчик! (смелый)<br />
2</p>
<p>@goldie6649<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Brilliant job Tucker &amp; Putin, i always have had suspicion about the Ukraine side of this war &amp; this educated me<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I will be praying 4 peace 4 All<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@nicholasstathoulopoulos4744<br />
12 hours ago<br />
&#8220;Tucker, come and take a look at this very fine window&#8230;&#8221;<br />
2</p>
<p>@Twisty805<br />
7 days ago<br />
“No one will be able to separate the soul”.<br />
Strong ending.<br />
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<p>44 replies</p>
<p>@senkajovicic3590<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Fenomenal interview and epical end of it. Last minute and Tuckers expression are&#8230; everything!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />Congratulations to both participants.<br />
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<p>@user-rc7xx8ds5r<br />
1 day ago<br />
46:19 Putin roasting Tucker will forever be funny <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@Laurabozovic<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Protect this man <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Quantum369Mechanic<br />
1 day ago<br />
I would like to hear more from this dude. Great job tucker!<br />
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<p>@ramoncruz1829<br />
9 hours ago<br />
This video is straight up ASMR<br />
2</p>
<p>@aditinigam429<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from India. I don&#8217;t have patience for more than 10 minutes, but watched this for two hours without break. Congrats Tucker Carlson for the kind of questions.<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@michellereilly979<br />
6 hours ago<br />
The Oliver Stone interview was EXTREMELY insightful about Putin. He isnt the monster the MSM and US government has made him out to be. He is intelligence, controlled, a patriot. He doesnt speak like a politician. That interview used subtitles so the audience sould hear his tone, inflection and emotions which gives more of an idea of his personality. He is direcrt, but u can tell he is being honest forthcoming in his answers.<br />
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<p>@Susan-md6nd<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Great interview<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Our Family like Mr Putin<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e6-1f1fa.png" alt="🇦🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@danielameha1337<br />
21 hours ago<br />
What was the reason behind YouTube blocking billions of people worldwide from viewing this interview? This interview did not reach my inbox despite my subscription to Tucker. That is crazy.<br />
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<p>@tamilepicvideos6657<br />
23 hours ago<br />
A great reply from the iron man for the western mads<br />
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<p>@user-yv4tf3jb4g<br />
1 day ago<br />
Now let&#8217;s have a follow-up with an elderly man with poor memory<br />
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<p>@user-og8ef6pf4s<br />
8 days ago<br />
来自中国，谢谢 Carlson 先生勇敢为真理做好他工作<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
谢谢普京总统，为他国家主权, 俄罗斯人民的安全，和生活而战。 向普京总统点赞<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@BashirArsine<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great interview!<br />
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<p>@louistokologolo<br />
1 day ago<br />
The guy makes his points very much calmly,<br />
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<p>@raygallardo1560<br />
22 hours ago<br />
putin for us president 2024 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@kyle08dejager<br />
1 day ago<br />
And then after they both agreed they hate us cause they ain&#8217;t us<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@lizamena9124<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wow almost 18,000,000 views<br />
not even FOX nor CNN<br />
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<p>@bmohr9826<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from USA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Arizona. I love that this is an actual interview and not an argument or an interruption-fest. We need to hear both sides. It is not only our right but our duty as Americans to push freedom and liberty regardless of your personal beliefs or opinions<br />
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<p>@mohdmustafaazizi633<br />
1 day ago<br />
That was a great history class and we learned much <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@BritneySK<br />
54 minutes ago<br />
As a Russian I am truly happy to see many people finally opening their eyes! I thank God for this! Putin and Tucker did amazing. Especially the translator! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ghaliberrada9722<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Do same with netnyahu<br />
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<p>@TheGeneralSoundwave<br />
1 day ago<br />
Man this interview was top tier. Just wow.<br />
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<p>@SladeMr123<br />
1 day ago<br />
Nice not having to skip ads<br />
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<p>@eslim95023<br />
9 days ago<br />
God bless Tucker for bringing back real journalism<br />
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<p>@mi9t142<br />
1 day ago<br />
As a Chinese native I can confirm that the translator did a awesome job.<br />
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<p>@stuartcudlip223<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Irrespective of personal opinions, it’s good for the people of the world to at least hear what the leader of another historically significant country has to say. There cannot be only one rhetoric.<br />
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<p>@aagiibb1<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Great smart man.<br />
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<p>@kurtanglerookieyear<br />
1 day ago<br />
Reminder that there is no hero in a war between two irreversibly corrupt parties. One blocks the opposition, the other literally kills the opposition. This was a needed interview but keep your takes on who is in the right. The answer is no one<br />
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<p>@user-tf5di4bj6f<br />
20 hours ago<br />
He just wants to be friends and doesn&#8217;t understand/is mad we aren&#8217;t<br />
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<p>@DressMeSlow<br />
9 days ago<br />
We need you Tucker! Stay safe<br />
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<p>@vitali2127<br />
1 day ago<br />
What I don’t get is how Tucker understands all that? I don’t see any earpiece for translation. And he often replies so quick<br />
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<p>@vinnyrichardsduartegilmete3496<br />
16 hours ago<br />
RTV’d be proud.<br />
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<p>@-Hey-Join-With-me-Now-s3x<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Moral issues greet us each morning in the newspaper, confront us in the memos on our desks, nag us from our children&#8217;s soccer fields, and bid us good night<br />
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<p>@ItylusLarp<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Watching it for the memes<br />
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<p>@elizabetheverett1096<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Finally. The truth. Thank you Tucker for being an actual journalist- bringing the truth to the people that continue to be lied to by their own governments. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mrmrandystrang6592<br />
5 hours ago<br />
The Best</p>
<p>@Adam75231<br />
8 days ago<br />
Awesome interview! Tucker Carlson did an excellent job! 2 hours and not one single second I was bored.<br />
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<p>@jeanlouisbaron5351<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker Carlson looks like a student in front of a teach .<br />
Very interesting meeting to be true.<br />
Both Russia and its leaders have been so much underatted so far ..<br />
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<p>@yayajennings6500<br />
18 hours ago<br />
I find it hard to believe that this interview has only gained 2million views<br />
in the last week, it should be more than this!<br />
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<p>@CryptoClownWorldTA77<br />
14 hours ago<br />
You&#8217;re not on network tv anymore bro. The makeup isn&#8217;t necessary. Just be a regular person like everyone else.<br />
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<p>@CraftsmanFX85<br />
3 hours ago<br />
@TuckerCarlson I want to thank you for making this interview a possibility for the world and enabling us the chance to see what President Putin is willing to talk about. Dear President Putin. I have immense respect for you being willing and wanting to take part in this interview. Thank you for your desire to make this interview possible and wanting to talk in front of the world.<br />
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<p>@rockib8319<br />
14 hours ago<br />
search &#8220;tucker carlson&#8217;s interview with Putin&#8221; and this vid will not show up&#8230;.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@gwzrd5675<br />
8 days ago<br />
As a Russian with decent English, I want to thank the translator for doing great job as Russian to English translations usually translate no meaning<br />
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<p>@tomaskopolia1031<br />
20 hours ago<br />
I appreciate Tucker for going places where few have courage to go.<br />
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<p>@user-vr3bk3cx2y<br />
9 hours ago (edited)<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />President Putin is obviously a champion amongst presidents as Tucker is amongst journalists <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />BRAVO<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4aa-1f3fb.png" alt="💪🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270c.png" alt="✌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@sovietsnake4726<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
I like how how when you search for this video only the repost comes up, no matter how long you scroll. Interesting huh?<br />
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<p>@ianinkster2261<br />
17 hours ago<br />
I can&#8217;t hear the first five minutes of his speech without first hearing the ominous background music to the spoken prologue of Lord of the Rings.</p>
<p>@flashlightradiotv<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Why do we have to search before we see this video? YouTube refuses to make it trend, but people are making it trend.<br />
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<p>@ryanlarge9793<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thank you Tucker. The world needed this.<br />
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<p>@SwaRaJ_075<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Will go down as one of the GOATed interview in the 21st Century<br />
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<p>@JesusChristEmmanuel<br />
1 day ago<br />
Our Father, Who art in heaven,<br />
Hallowed be Thy Name.<br />
Thy Kingdom come.<br />
Thy Will be done,<br />
on earth as it is in Heaven.<br />
Give us this day our daily bread.<br />
And forgive us our trespasses,<br />
as we forgive those who trespass against us.<br />
And lead us not into temptation,<br />
but deliver us from evil. Amen.<br />
Our Father, Who art in heaven,<br />
Hallowed be Thy Name.<br />
Thy Kingdom come.<br />
Thy Will be done,<br />
on earth as it is in Heaven.<br />
Give us this day our daily bread.<br />
And forgive us our trespasses,<br />
as we forgive those who trespass against us.<br />
And lead us not into temptation,<br />
but deliver us from evil. Amen.<br />
Our Father, Who art in heaven,<br />
Hallowed be Thy Name.<br />
Thy Kingdom come.<br />
Thy Will be done,<br />
on earth as it is in Heaven.<br />
Give us this day our daily bread.<br />
And forgive us our trespasses,<br />
as we forgive those who trespass against us.<br />
And lead us not into temptation,<br />
but deliver us from evil. Amen.<br />
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<p>@alowery001<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Lololo&#8230;.F Fox news&#8230;.lololol&#8230;.you didn&#8217;t stop Tucker<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@simonwalker8300<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Thank you Tucker, at last a reasonable, i.e not combative, interview with the Russian leader. Who we have so far been prevented from hearing, as journalism these days consists of asking a question then talking over their answer, no wonder the Russians didn&#8217;t want to do it. Perhaps they have better manners than us. Very interesting!.<br />
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<p>@petermasona1034<br />
6 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@zepafra<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
We’re so used to western tv and western politician superficial way and fast timing that some of us may struggle to listen to such a complex interview. I hope that this will become the new standard, serious conversation for adults and not commercial spots for grown and ignorant children<br />
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<p>@marco1941<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tom Tucker made it quite far.<br />
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<p>@pattysullivan3517<br />
11 hours ago<br />
I love the fact Putin gave us a history lesson and offered the actual documents to confirm them. Very well done and very comprehensive and thorough interview. Well done by both parties.<br />
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<p>@etl_axiom<br />
1 day ago<br />
President Putin is very interesting.<br />
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<p>@RacksYoungin<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Why does Putin never get old <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62d.png" alt="😭" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f480.png" alt="💀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Caleb-143iyk<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker Carlson has this up on his website too.<br />
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<p>@Thanatos973<br />
7 days ago<br />
Sending Love from Texas, i hope for peace between every country as we work on becoming a better society.<br />
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<p>@cecens98<br />
3 hours ago<br />
does Tucker understand the Russian language or how does he get the translation?<br />
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<p>@lilflexlewis5802<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Awesome interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> , I&#8217;ve come to get a understanding of putin more than ever.<br />
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<p>@-Hey-Join-With-me-Now-s3x<br />
1 day ago<br />
The translator’s voice was quite ominous yet soothing to hear.<br />
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<p>@tomper2204<br />
1 day ago<br />
Can you imagine JB being able to speak intelligently for this length of time or even Kackling Kamala to have this much knowledge of our countries history.<br />
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<p>@olmasbekzoirov4937<br />
21 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Missle1001<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Now Putin has to embrace the Tucker stare!<br />
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<p>@user-gh2iu7wm8i<br />
12 hours ago<br />
사랑해요 푸틴<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f0-1f1f7.png" alt="🇰🇷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mundoPRO202<br />
8 days ago<br />
Tucker, you earned my respect. I just finished watching it and it was 100% worth it<br />
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<p>@Techt<br />
1 day ago<br />
You were so brave to ask these inconvenient questions about Navalny. Can&#8217;t wait to see your interview with him. Oh, wait&#8230;<br />
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<p>@saboteur8428<br />
15 hours ago (edited)<br />
46:21 wow the fear it tucker&#8217;s face<br />
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<p>@kevin-uy3yh<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Then by your point of view you should give kaliningrad back to Germany</p>
<p>@iamurage<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well after that, I have great respect for Putin.<br />
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<p>@mariannapettersen9763<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Mr. Tucker can you please post the original untranslated version, for us who understands both English and Russian? I have searched all over the youtube and found only or dubbed with Russian or English.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@robotcell9841<br />
8 days ago<br />
For the first time in my life I’m actually hearing a perfect translation, good shit tucker<br />
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<p>@gtfffv<br />
15 hours ago<br />
I like how even Putin thinks about the Roman Empire<br />
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<p>@kopeschka6748<br />
1 day ago<br />
This was a great interview I wish our leadership could articulate their thoughts and ideals in a calm respectful manor as well as Putin did this interview. Furthermore, I felt that Putin tried to see things from an American point of view and even if he doesn’t fully understand the way we think at least he tried which is something American leadership either refuses to do or is incapable of doing.<br />
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<p>@user-dw5wg2gl4b<br />
7 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Alhamdulillah020<br />
11 hours ago<br />
As an algerian<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ff.png" alt="🇩🇿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> this interview really confirmed my thoughts and made me hate usa much more than i did,support russian brothers<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e9-1f1ff.png" alt="🇩🇿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2665.png" alt="♥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@esodmumixam2053<br />
19 hours ago<br />
The effect of this itw had to be countered&#8230; here we are, Nalvany s death&#8230;<br />
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<p>@Eskay94<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
Without fox for firing Tucker, none of these amazingly informative interviews would have NEVER happened. Thanks again fox<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@pontonniy<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Такер, красавчик!<br />
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<p>@rathgaras<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Did you ever get nervous questioning him? I understand he values you&#8217;re opinions and non biasness but he&#8217;s a very intelligent person with a very get back attitude.</p>
<p>@ayoubrafiq320<br />
1 day ago<br />
Cuz in this Morocco I own the field.</p>
<p>@aaronalexander9701<br />
1 day ago<br />
It would be really awesome if Trump and Putin got together and just talked for 2 hours on video.<br />
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<p>@nwaruchristian346<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Great job Carlson<br />
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<p>@victorv3219<br />
9 days ago<br />
Can’t wait to see Tucker interviewing president Biden for couple hours and asking him as many questions.<br />
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<p>@LokeyOne415<br />
1 day ago<br />
great interview..very insightful<br />
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<p>@MaureenLeeful<br />
1 hour ago<br />
This isn’t an interview, it’s a hand holding exercise. Tucker should go back to journalism school and learn how to ask tough questions. Quite sad actually<br />
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<p>@tarikyildirim8859<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Türkçe altyazı seçeneği istiyoruz<br />
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<p>@unagisama5476<br />
5 hours ago<br />
It needs a follow up or a part 2. The interview was good but still underwhelming. Even Putin himself agreed afterwards, in an interview with RT, that more essential critical questions were expected from Tucker as most of us did. With other words what happened to the Tucker that we used to seeing at FOX?</p>
<p>@glenngeerinck771<br />
3 hours ago<br />
poetin=made; tucker=thoughts</p>
<p>@Hemebean<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
I watched this on Tucker&#8217;s site. Absolutely increadible interview, the most important of our current times.<br />
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<p>@yenaibi<br />
1 day ago<br />
This was an extremely important interview. Ofcourse, the otherside will try their best to discredit the interviewer and the interviewee<br />
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<p>5 replies</p>
<p>@peterharley1131<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Great interview, thank you for sharing. I wish Biden, HIMSELF IN PERSON, can respond with a responsive interview to answer President Putin statements.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Youre the face of the world make america great again</p>
<p>@k_v_k_m<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is the true journalism. It’s so great to see another opinion. All media… cnn, bbc etc has the same news… but only those that are beneficial to them!<br />
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<p>@DontStepInTheGrease<br />
50 minutes ago<br />
What happened to Tucker&#8217;s interview other day about the shots? Was it censored?</p>
<p>@rickrussell579<br />
9 days ago<br />
Cant wait to see how the press spins this tomorrow.<br />
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<p>@user-mq6he3gp4d<br />
1 day ago<br />
Я не могу найти в поиске на YouTube это видео. Пришлось зайти на страницу Такера и его найти. Намеренно скрывают это интервью! Всем мир! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f54a.png" alt="🕊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@malekmestiri9715<br />
15 minutes ago<br />
this interview is gold. Never have I had such chances to actually LISTEN &amp; UNSERDTAND what Putin has to say</p>
<p>@UKpowerunleashed<br />
1 day ago<br />
Uncle Putin is winning <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> He just presented copies of official historical documents! Here, take it, as a gift&#8230;Wow!<br />
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<p>@ilikeyou1370<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks Tucker for covering this issue!<br />
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<p>@zlikk<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Endorsing a murderer<br />
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<p>@thomassweet1509<br />
8 days ago<br />
The engagement is astounding. The people are clearly speaking and are tired of being in the dark<br />
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<p>@notflanders4967<br />
3 hours ago (edited)<br />
Tuckers laugh @2:03 reminds me of the hitman from Dumb &amp; Dumber, the scene where he realizes that Harry and Lloyd aren&#8217;t professionals and has a good laugh just before he enjoys his spicy burger and dies. &#8220;Talk about being at the wrong place, at the wrong time.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@AntonSamokat<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is the great work. Thank you Tucker!<br />
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<p>@sapientasoul0479<br />
1 day ago<br />
YouTube won&#8217;t let the video into recommendations &#8211; send the link to your close friends, share with everyone.<br />
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<p>@TSayfullin<br />
1 day ago<br />
1:16 is my favorite moment. It’s a smart choice of comparison, smart move of perception of the global world. It makes<br />
Total sense to me and it makes the “history course” logical in terms<br />
Of seeing how Putin and his team build their political behavior.<br />
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<p>@nsmnsm8889<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Tucker God a History Lessons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@pentoria1049<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
here are timestamps i made. please like so others can see it.<br />
01:19 ukraine conflict<br />
02:01 &#8220;are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?&#8221;<br />
02:33 history of russia and ukraine<br />
19:58 &#8220;does other countries have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?&#8221;<br />
25:03 nato and russia<br />
30:55 putin asks bill clinton if russia can join nato?<br />
34:00 &#8220;cia supports terrorism at north caucasus&#8221;<br />
35:44 missile system crisis<br />
39:30 &#8220;nato breaks promise and expands to east&#8221;<br />
46:08 putin says thank god they didn&#8217;t let carlson enter to cia<br />
47:54 &#8220;us politicians pushed the limit and they&#8217;ve been warned&#8221;<br />
53:49 current situation and nazification in ukraine<br />
1:07:16 fake russian threat propaganda<br />
1:10:38 &#8220;don&#8217;t usa have important problems other than ukraine?&#8221;<br />
1:11:32 who blew up the north stream?<br />
1:13:41 why germany stays silent?<br />
1:16:11 what are the new world blocks?<br />
1:17:26 us dollar, usa prints money, bricks and world economics<br />
1:30:33 who makes decisions in usa?<br />
1:36:32 volodymyr zelenskyy<br />
1:40:26 boris johnson<br />
1:41:26 putin being christian leader<br />
1:48:35 ai and elon musk<br />
1:51:05 evan gershkovich<br />
1:58:08 is it possible the war spread out and get bigger?<br />
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<p>21 replies</p>
<p>@BrHck<br />
19 hours ago<br />
I can&#8217;t wait to see John Oliver&#8217;s reaction to this interview</p>
<p>@shesmyeternalsunshine3813<br />
21 hours ago<br />
I think Tuck found the secrets to a long life</p>
<p>@jf2369af<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Really didn&#8217;t get much from this except for a history lesson.</p>
<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Its sad for me to see two most amazing parts of the world to see them fighting</p>
<p>@alexanderren1097<br />
11 hours ago (edited)<br />
I like you a lot Tucker but have to say your interruptions during the history lesson were kind of annoying though I appreciate that you realized and pointed out after the fact.<br />
I think in part it stems from our bad American habits of (1) thinking history only started in 1776 and not realizing that the vast majority of the world have much more ancient histories that impact the way they are today. And (2) corporate capitalism has brainwashed us to have an impatient consumerist attitude such that if we don’t get what we want in 5 minutes then we get bored. I know you try not ti be so affected by corporate consumerism but sadly we’re all tainted by it to some degree<br />
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<p>@Larrywhite00<br />
8 days ago<br />
This is a much larger event than the time James Franco interviewed kim jong un.. this is the real interview.. the interview of a lifetime. Beautiful work by Tucker Carlson.<br />
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<p>@z1mt0n1x2<br />
19 hours ago (edited)<br />
28:30 That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been saying all along to those who doesn&#8217;t remember history. But, as everyone is an NPC, obviously nobody cares to learn.<br />
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<p>@SaulGoodMan817<br />
1 day ago<br />
Putin is the man always liked him!!!<br />
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<p>@zerovalue5106<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Honestly I agree with him because we all had land there was open land everywhere yet somehow during modernization all this land got put under paperwork claims that someone owns it and you cant use it but they sell it off little by little.</p>
<p>@ConfusedBobsleigh-to9lv<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;m impressed to the honestly of the Russian president and I&#8217;m willing to come and marry an Russian woman because I can feel the sense of human being in the Russian people. The leadership in Russia can tell it all..<br />
Lovely lovely lovely&#8230;<br />
Was really a long dialogue<br />
What humble Mr president Russia people got!!!<br />
May Allah protect Russia despite all the attempt and the sanctions, they keep on moving forward&#8230;<br />
Great brave and brave Mr president putin. Allah bless you keep it high <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-st3vd5bf6g<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Please stay there.</p>
<p>@lildaisy7481<br />
8 days ago<br />
“I was busy that day” Love it!<br />
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<p>@reasons4U2smile<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great Job Tucker! You’re a True American Patriot!<br />
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<p>@andyzacek9760<br />
7 hours ago<br />
I love Tucker and Putin! Number one in my heart!<br />
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<p>@jaydavis9717<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Why are so many people lying about this video? Took me literally 5 seconds to find it<br />
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<p>@CacophonyOfDestruction<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Freedom Toons youtube video on this interview was hilarious</p>
<p>@SignsTimes-ee1vb<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Can&#8217;t believe UFOs were never discussed.<br />
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<p>@xguudaxcoax4560<br />
8 days ago<br />
Two words: Mind Blown <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f92f.png" alt="🤯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
Interview the world needed to hear.<br />
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<p>@user-gv8vm9fo6g<br />
11 hours ago (edited)<br />
Thank you for this interview. So professional! It was outstanding from both sides. Молодец, Такер! Come again to the country of Leo Tolstoy and Tchaikovsky!<br />
Natalia<br />
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<p>@alph8104<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Tucker interrupted less cuz he was stunned by the history of Putin&#8217;s side of the story <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@fuzkforyou<br />
52 minutes ago<br />
I knew an old soviet veteran who lived and worked with putin back in dresden <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@alph8104<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Putin telling Tucker that he knows he wanted to join CIA, epic and him saying I&#8217;ve done my work on u<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
So be humble call putin and start thinkin of ways to build global security and safety<br />
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<p>@Vesta_well<br />
6 days ago<br />
I can say that translator was 99% close to his speech!! We made double check in rus and eng! Be sure translator made all meaning correct! Спасибо, Такер!<br />
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<p>@WHYDAFUCKULYING<br />
1 day ago<br />
This was amazing. Can’t wait to see Vladimir on Theo Vons podcast next week.<br />
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<p>@michellevanderlinden2629<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Well if we got anything out of that, it was 2 hours worth of TC facial expressions for some new memes. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@wambugumichael8737<br />
14 hours ago<br />
YouTube where are the extra views<br />
? Cause on X there are 204million views</p>
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<p>@user-vt6nf3nt9s<br />
10 hours ago<br />
“You know this probably sounds strange given the current situation, but the relations between the two people will be rebuilt anyway, it will take time but they will heal, the unity is still there,<br />
no one will be able to separate the soul.<br />
Shall we end here or is there anything else?“<br />
~Vladimir Putin.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@ranjosmwenyewe4794<br />
19 hours ago<br />
it seems business</p>
<p>@d-nice22<br />
9 days ago<br />
Congratulations Mr Tucker you broke the internet hopefully this gets 50 million views<br />
plus<br />
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<p>12 replies</p>
<p>@zerovalue5106<br />
11 hours ago<br />
“Im not sure how it’s relevant” I can tell he is getting at a point about Russia having a right to Ukraine. I think Putin was going to leave Ukraine alone as long as they didn’t join NATO.<br />
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<p>@jf2369af<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks Carlson for doing this interview and letting all of us humans on and off earth watch. You are the MVP of America this year so far without a doubt.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@martineznuno9826<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Why Carson Tucker doesn’t have an earpiece like Putin? Does he speak Russian?<br />
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<p>@paulmangwengwe9284<br />
1 day ago<br />
I wonder what the Ukrainians would say when they hear their leaders do not want to negotiate.<br />
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<p>@user-uq2ko4jq2v<br />
21 hours ago (edited)<br />
so navalny called &#8230; im kidding.. he kicked the bucket today <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f614.png" alt="😔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> &#8230;</p>
<p>@ThingsThatIDo<br />
9 days ago<br />
Very interesting and as a free Citizen of the US I deserved the ability to hear it.<br />
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<p>@Abdullah-fs1kr<br />
8 hours ago<br />
as the look on Tucker&#8217;s face says he did not study hISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY LIKE pUTIN WAS TAUGHT<br />
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<p>@Frankiesmovies<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Amazing !<br />
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<p>@wilfriedvomacka1783<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Came for interview, received lecture<br />
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<p>@_Ranger01_<br />
10 hours ago<br />
I’m surprised the leaders don’t take the time to learn other languages. Sure they aren’t going to learn every single language, but I would think if I was a world leader I would want to be able to talk to other leaders without having to go through someone else to do so.<br />
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<p>@lesliegriffin4866<br />
15 hours ago<br />
I don’t agree, on anything killing peoples on any war but he sounds like good Russian leader<br />
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<p>@Wadiyatalkinabeet_<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
Regardless of your opinion on this, we are witnessing something very historic.<br />
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<p>@matthewmaccaughey5016<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Anyone notice that Tucker doesn&#8217;t have a translator like Putin? Does he understand know Russian?</p>
<p>@josephdivineande8085<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Wow!!. &#8216;shall we end here or is there anything else?&#8217;. I love president Putin. My next son would answer Putin.<br />
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<p>@Lyudmyla_k<br />
1 day ago<br />
I&#8217;m cusious why its not in youtube trends, quite weird.</p>
<p>@tozobozo4142<br />
10 hours ago<br />
If the USA and Europe want to see a swift and just resolution to this war they can withdraw support to the Ukraine and there will be resolution. Anyone on earth &#8211; the simplest rube &#8211; could see from the beginning the immense threat of escalation the support of Ukraine by the West would create. Anyone. If they were concerned about the threat of escalation, the West should have minded its own business from the beginning. The conflict would have been over long ago.<br />
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<p>@TheKopalhem<br />
7 hours ago<br />
18:28 &#8211; a TERRIBLE mistake in the translation Mr Putin says &#8220;Soviet Ukraine&#8221;, not &#8220;Soviet Union&#8221;<br />
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<p>@brokoteshowofficial4830<br />
8 days ago<br />
Everybody please upvote the comment in order to bring it to the top<br />
There are critical distortions in the English translation. For example, at 18:21 Putin says that Soviet Ukraine received territories that never belonged to it, and it is translated into English that the Soviet Union received territories that never belonged to it. This fundamentally changes the meaning of the text.<br />
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<p>@batyab3186<br />
23 hours ago<br />
i finally came here because of Navalny. Carlson looks so confused here. Every now and then he says something disrespectful or laughs. “I’m not bored. I’m just not sure how it’s relevant” “Good, good. I’m so glad to know that you acknowledge that.” OMG.</p>
<p>@user-fm2iw3um3u<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Good interview Tucker. Now we can see more into this sociopaths mind and how he thinks. Brovo.</p>
<p>@thomasjespersen2399<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Like Kissinger&#8217;s historical trip to China.. Just a one way, right Tucker?</p>
<p>@nnnc1000<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Also, this interview should have happened months, months ago.<br />
In other media, especially stretches of the church. From Off the Top of my mind, in November on EWTN, it was spoken that the conflict between Rus and Urk will end with the agreement of Creamea. Some sort of agreement within 8 mths.<br />
So that being, media (internet) also gets called, to have everyone come to listen. So the time is coming to an end to this conflict. So, this interview was made. It gives us some type of thought to say, &#8220;Oh okay, I guess it&#8217;s going to end at some point.&#8221; Media gives a comfort idea. All leaders agree to have these types of interviews. So in months to the election into next year. There should be peace. 8 myths or less..</p>
<p>@i3alasuresh<br />
12 hours ago<br />
I see that table is not long. What happen here. This man is thinking</p>
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<p>@abdelllhadiii<br />
8 days ago<br />
His eloquence was so engaging that the interview didn&#8217;t even feel like 2 hours.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@karyn8792<br />
1 day ago<br />
I will never forget that America politicians hired Ben Ladin to go to war with Russia. Btw it’s so refreshing to hear from a leader that can explain things and learn from. Not walking away not understanding what the heck they said.<br />
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<p>@felixg.2911<br />
1 day ago<br />
don‘t get my wrong but putin makes his points really clear and understandable<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@NaveenKumar-bw8hv<br />
12 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@yasmingenie<br />
1 day ago<br />
Wow finally the truth comes out <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@harryfernandez1879<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Anyone know where Tucker Carlson&#8217;s translation device is? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@phillipcsandoval9094<br />
9 days ago<br />
The most important interview in a century! Thank you Mr. Tucker.<br />
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<p>@LaurelLormand<br />
1 day ago<br />
It’s so refreshing to hear from Vladimir’s perspective<br />
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<p>@smk6650<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Tuckers listening face is hilarious! But I love him, good work for being an actual journalist in a time of suppression of freedom of speech and opinion<br />
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<p>@OBEYTHEPYRAMID<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Using one interpretation of the past to justify his crimes from the present.:..Brilliant&#8230;.<br />
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<p>@abdulkadirokeji4812<br />
1 hour ago<br />
The fact that the interview has garnered over 17million views<br />
already means that a lot of people are interested in the truth<br />
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<p>@user-ly5nm2qh9u<br />
1 day ago<br />
Молодетс Такер Карлсон<br />
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<p>@ladyinmaking<br />
8 days ago<br />
Just finished watching! Wow and the end is great! Loved it ! Thank you Tucker and Mr. Putin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Sunturlic<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker is very smart and skilled journalist, one of the best in the world. And seems to be peace loving person, he asked very good questions, that shows people where Russia stands on escalation and continuation of conflict. Which is exactly how it should be done, rhetoric that is Putin wants to expand, he wants Poland, etc. seems unlikely now. He would look really bad if after such a high profile interview, do invade someone else.<br />
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<p>@jehadthegreat5326<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Tucker pretending as if he doesn’t understand why he is explaining history…he got to…because you’re asking a stupid question in combination with the wrong question…<br />
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<p>@josepereirapereira3575<br />
9 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@bilalmani<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Poutine doesn&#8217;t do an interview, he interviewed his self <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@benahajjam330<br />
1 day ago<br />
I like this, but unfortunately this was basically a chance for Putin to speak his mind. It was basically a monologue by him<br />
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<p>@biggiemarron<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Saudi Arabia <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f8-1f1e6.png" alt="🇸🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
It&#8217;s by far one of the best well-mannered interviews I have ever watched! Thank you Tucker <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.png" alt="👏🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.png" alt="👏🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.png" alt="👏🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@RJiiFin<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good to see someone doing some fucking journalism<br />
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<p>@miles_desmond<br />
1 day ago<br />
Now if they interview sleepy Joe they will get him to spill every state secret<br />
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<p>@NaveenkumarD-qk8no<br />
13 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Andy-ju6ls<br />
1 day ago<br />
Can stay and listen to this man all day long , he got me<br />
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<p>@timons777<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Главное: убедительно подать.</p>
<p>@jaimebotero7653<br />
2 days ago<br />
The translator is the real MVP.<br />
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<p>@nursultannazarov8379<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Everyone is afraid of Putin<br />
Private USA citizen Tucker: Hold my camera<br />
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<p>@greaterbayareahero1401<br />
1 day ago<br />
I would have more respect for Tucker if he could do the same for President Xi of China lol</p>
<p>@mortem-tyrannis<br />
1 day ago<br />
How about the people of Ukraine decide on what they want, to be Ukraine and &#8220;independent&#8221; or under the rule of Russia but we all know its not about what they claim from either side Russia or the US.<br />
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<p>@KrazyKanucker<br />
22 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;ve heard a lot of what President Putin was saying previously from US Chicago&#8217;s Professor Mearsheimer who has some great interviews on youtube and am convinced Putin is rightfully upset at the lack of respect from the US over the years since the Soviet Union broke up, mainly in moving NATO closer and closer to Russia putting them under threat and breaking the Minsk agreement. The US (NATO) should give Putin breathing room and stop lying to him.<br />
Regarding the Nazi applauded here in Canada which they didn&#8217;t realize was a Nazi, what an embarrassment. The Soviet Union lost 20 to 27 Million lives to Nazis so I can see why he brought it up, it proves how ignorant many are in the west.<br />
Biden needs to contact Putin with a good understanding of this situation and back down but I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s capable or understands what&#8217;s going on.<br />
What a mess and I have Ukrainian roots.<br />
Go watch Chicago&#8217;s Prof Mearsheimers interviews.<br />
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<p>@anthonywatson7676<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Damn shame President Biden haven&#8217;t talked to President Putin in 2 years&#8230;wow<br />
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<p>@louisebazelak5177<br />
8 days ago<br />
This fills me with hope. Thank you for having a conversation!<br />
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<p>@ZackGisme<br />
1 day ago<br />
Texas was a Mexican territory before it was American and a whole host of people speak Spanish there. In fact one of their major cities is “San Antonio” &#8211; you need to seriously consider returning Texas to its historical home of Mexico.<br />
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<p>@Reginvalt<br />
9 hours ago (edited)<br />
For anyone struggling to understand historical reference. Putin explains mechanics of possible outcome. If a regular country (like Georgia) confronts Russia, worst thing which may happen is military defeat. This is not the case for Ukraine. Being a state with a very short history of being an independent state (30 years) and consisting mostly of other countries parts (Russia, Poland, Hungary) it naturally falls apart under stress and worst case scenario is much more devastating: dissolution and loss of statehood.<br />
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<p>@kalyankb7562<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Audi alteram partem.<br />
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<p>@TheHadiye<br />
1 day ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@lizamarieliteral9544<br />
21 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Miiich1991<br />
7 days ago<br />
Mr Carlson, please interview Biden for 2hrs<br />
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<p>@FireOX_aka_Syndicate.<br />
1 day ago<br />
теперь Такера Карлсона в России знают как хорошего человека, который хорошо выполняет свою работу.<br />
Будем рады видеть вас в Москве <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f49c.png" alt="💜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@fatinats<br />
1 day ago<br />
I admire Putins intelligence and his rationale of policies.<br />
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<p>@joellis5915<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Can I have the copy that Putin gave to Carson? Since Carson didn’t want it. So I can Read to see the happenings.</p>
<p>@VelvetValium<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Brilliant. Vladimir Putin’s sense of humor is unmatched. Extremely sophisticated person<br />
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<p>@rustonelliott8004<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Much less 2.5 hrs</p>
<p>@nattango8912<br />
9 days ago<br />
34.8 million views<br />
on X after 3 hours.<br />
Only about 321k on YouTube.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@kevdes2564<br />
13 hours ago<br />
This was a good interview to get Putin&#8217;s perspective but I get the impression that the interview was either too soft or at least there weren&#8217;t enough questions&#8230;<br />
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<p>@hohliiditenaxui<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Путин грамотный политик.Несущий тяжелую ношу.Честь и хвала ему.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@alferro3149<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Wtf!!??!;</p>
<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
1 day ago<br />
This guy lives in a parallel reality<br />
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<p>@whoiswaynereynolds5457<br />
9 hours ago<br />
It ain&#8217;t got no gas in it</p>
<p>@nubiawit<br />
8 days ago<br />
Wow thank you Tucker watching from Ethiopia. We are grateful. Thank you thank you to keep the light of free speech. We love you. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f5a4.png" alt="🖤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />True American!!!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4aa-1f3fe.png" alt="💪🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ayoubrafiq320<br />
1 day ago<br />
But I gotta keep 99.999999996% of punchlines coded.</p>
<p>@iamirene<br />
6 hours ago<br />
What an interview! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f92f.png" alt="🤯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I&#8217;m shocked, amazed and overwhelmed and happy that more people get to know the true situation behind Ukrain, Russian intentions and the situation in the whole world. Changes. And we all need to think about the new establishment of the rapidly chanding world, new mindset, values and unity of all the humanity because in the end we are ALL brothers, we are a family that is living on you motherland &#8211; the planet Earth!<br />
Love from Russia<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ingridburger<br />
17 hours ago<br />
im geting sick by listening how the west plays the game <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f641.png" alt="🙁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jiana9691<br />
1 day ago<br />
Undoubtedly, one of the most wonderful interviews since the 21st century.<br />
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<p>@Benjamin-eg4zy<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Hopefully the government doesn’t mandatory ordain to remove this video.</p>
<p>@iamzflo<br />
8 days ago<br />
Just so you know … last night I was able to search up this video and it popped up quickly. Now, when I search it up, all I can see is CNN, BBC, NBC, The Guardian news clips from the DAY BEFORE the interview, with significantly less views<br />
and it’s all I can find via search and recommended (primary source of YouTube traffic for most videos). In order to find it on YouTube this morning, after several failed attempts via search, I had to go to your actual channel and look in your videos to click on it.<br />
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<p>@enjoythemomenttravel<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Tucker, this is everything in truth my Father, from a prominent aristocratic/military family for centuries, why he left Hungary to protect his life in 56&#8242;, he talked about this history &amp; the political strategies, until his death in 2008&#8230; for me it has always been an interesting &amp; an education of the history about socio-economic &amp; political strategies on the chessboard of life that the majority of us are just pons&#8230; controlled by the few!?</p>
<p>@Maximka45<br />
14 hours ago<br />
0:00 Introduction<br />
2:00 History of Russia and Ukraine<br />
25:04 NATO Expansion<br />
30:40 NATO and Bill Clinton<br />
41:10 Ukraine<br />
48:30 What triggered this conflict?<br />
1:02:37 A peaceful solution?<br />
1:11:33 Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?<br />
1:24:13 Re-establishing communication with the US<br />
1:36:33 How powerful is Zelensky?<br />
1:48:36 Elon Musk &amp; AI<br />
1:51:07 Imprisoned American journalist Evan Greshkovich<br />
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<p>@neiM91<br />
1 day ago<br />
wtf is going on at 59:47 &#8211; 59:50 Oo</p>
<p>@N.A5131<br />
1 day ago<br />
The Russian gangster accent keeps everybodies attention fixed on Putin</p>
<p>@iamthelaw9002<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well this interview aged like milk nice work helping feed the ego of an uncontrollable kiIIer who relayed a speech through an earpiece for two hours.<br />
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<p>@kurbicksan4917<br />
9 days ago<br />
REAL JOURNALISM!! Thank you<br />
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<p>@ryanlevis7532<br />
1 day ago<br />
Man, Putin has a good cognitive memory to remember the history of Russia. He easily made Biden look like a fool.<br />
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<p>@anthonywhitehead9660<br />
36 minutes ago<br />
History IS very important. I like to listen to him talk. Honestly wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if the U.S. did just cram a bunch of propaganda in our heads I mean they do it all the time with stuff in our own country. Honestly every Russian person I have met i have liked very much and those that have lived there tell a very different story.</p>
<p>@chrishall745<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Here&#8217;s the shot version, they have been fighting over this shit for ever.</p>
<p>@petersladcik8788<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
When he mentioned the Roman Empire and how nothing had come close to it since, I realized that he is just a man like me. 1:47:42</p>
<p>@SirSidi<br />
1 day ago<br />
I will take 30 seconds or one minute and he ended up taking half an hour</p>
<p>@MuhabaOtaki<br />
8 days ago<br />
This Interview is uniting the world, greetings from Peru.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@user-dx3qh3rk7g<br />
1 day ago<br />
«Но никому никогда не удастся растащить и раздробить русскую Душу». Шах и мат.<br />
Прелестное интервью &#8211; блестящий темп, владение фактами, чёткая речь, отсутствие примитивной заряженности, достоинство и дипломатия (абсолютный отказ от приёмов склок, сплетен или очернения ‘партнёров/оппонентов’)… мощь Истины, которая не меркнет перед лицом самых низких потоков.<br />
Katia Txi<br />
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<p>@absolutesrunner<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Brilliant, if only we had a dedicated person who cares about Christian values like Putin<br />
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<p>@user-dj8nk1cm5m<br />
16 hours ago<br />
How it,to get the interview from the killer?<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@Michal235<br />
1 day ago<br />
Being a person who&#8217;s into the actual history, this interview was gold. Top tier comedy, I love all the memes it generated <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@baptisteclearfly3350<br />
1 hour ago<br />
No comment&#8230;<br />
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<p>@wildernesseric<br />
8 days ago<br />
In the time it took me to watch this in 1.5x speed the views<br />
went from 500k to over 1.7 million. People are starving for real dialogue and real news. They want to hear things from the horses mouth instead of being fed what others think they should hear. Whether what he said was true or not we want to hear both sides of the story. Great job Tucker!<br />
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<p>@juroknezic8690<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Huge thank you .&gt;Tucker Carlson’s interview of Vladimir Putin for over two hours widens our understanding of both the Ukraine crisis and the global picture. Note that President Putin reveals the magical effects of American sanctions on Russia: The Russian economy has grown to be the top one in Europe. Do watch the entire interview and observe the body languages of Vladimir Putin and Tucker, tight lipped, Carlson. Juro</p>
<p>@zedsodead<br />
1 day ago<br />
Putins logic is irrefutable, I guess we will have to give this land back to the indians.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@RingWrapsBoxingChats<br />
4 hours ago<br />
2 Men breaking bread</p>
<p>@WhatchaGot2Say<br />
1 day ago<br />
Not as entertaining as the Katt Williams interview but important nonetheless.</p>
<p>@EddieTyre1<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
We’re gonna need Jonathan Davis to translate for the Biden interview.</p>
<p>@StarMan_2018<br />
9 days ago<br />
MSM is in full on meltdown about this. We need MORE speech, more openness and transparency to solve the world’s problems… not censorship.<br />
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<p>@TheMrMxyspptlk<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
what other world-class leader can deliver such complex, data-driven, culturally eclectic argumentations while being cautious, calculated, perfectly aware of the weight his words can have for future agreements? At his age?<br />
With all his power and capacity, had he had the possibility, the will or the witt to work more on building a lawful country and a more edificant international image of Russia&#8230; such a waste of hystorically rare opportunity.</p>
<p>@allenthomas5207<br />
11 hours ago<br />
How do Americans feel when someone explains that he want back land that belonged to him in the 1000s? Be careful, Montezuma is knocking on the door.<br />
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<p>@haydenhadfield5612<br />
1 day ago<br />
Love this guy and cannot stand brandon..<br />
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<p>@ignatiusgrover<br />
1 day ago<br />
A lot of the history lesson that Putin gave I learned from bald and bankrupt and even the small Hungarian town he talked about bald and bankrupt went there</p>
<p>@arturpirojkov7460<br />
23 hours ago<br />
YouTube delete comments<br />
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<p>@usernameisjonah<br />
9 days ago<br />
Thank you Tucker for allowing him to speak without you interrupting.<br />
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<p>@JesusChristEmmanuel<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hail Mary,<br />
Full of Grace,<br />
The Lord is with thee.<br />
Blessed art thou among women,<br />
and blessed is the fruit<br />
of thy womb, Jesus.<br />
Holy Mary,<br />
Mother of God,<br />
pray for us sinners now,<br />
and at the hour of our death.<br />
Amen.<br />
Hail Mary,<br />
Full of Grace,<br />
The Lord is with thee.<br />
Blessed art thou among women,<br />
and blessed is the fruit<br />
of thy womb, Jesus.<br />
Holy Mary,<br />
Mother of God,<br />
pray for us sinners now,<br />
and at the hour of our death.<br />
Amen.<br />
Hail Mary,<br />
Full of Grace,<br />
The Lord is with thee.<br />
Blessed art thou among women,<br />
and blessed is the fruit<br />
of thy womb, Jesus.<br />
Holy Mary,<br />
Mother of God,<br />
pray for us sinners now,<br />
and at the hour of our death.<br />
Amen.</p>
<p>@rjlicano<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Stalin signed a non aggression pact with the Nazis, which facilitated their invasion of Poland and triggered the start of WWII. Stalin believed that this move would facilitate a communist takeover after the war, but Hitler broke the pact and attacked the Russians as well. Putin didnt mention that.<br />
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<p>@heathermichael3987<br />
7 hours ago<br />
So why is Putin being attacked for taking care of his own country?<br />
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<p>@bradleywalsh4103<br />
1 day ago<br />
If you asked me a few weeks ago, I wouldnt have known who Tucker Carlson is nor would I cared. I heard many opinions of him around the same time I watched the interview with Putin. In the interview, I thought he asked Putin uncomfortable questions and highlighted things Putin didnt expect. For that, I think his interview had some integrity. On the other hand, the subsequent interviews with other middle east leaders/media clearly paint him a Russian shill.</p>
<p>@CurSeDdAnceR<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Last 20 mins seems like sublime way of saying, &#8220;Oh in name of god, please stop the war lol&#8221;.</p>
<p>@dragonhold4<br />
8 days ago<br />
Corporate Media most definately wasn&#8217;t going to stop me from watching this interview.<br />
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<p>@nishu6970<br />
15 hours ago<br />
our big brother PUTIN ji &#8230;.What a clear and transparent interview&#8230;&#8230;.love you PUTIN ji&#8230;.Lots and lots of love from INDIA&#8230;..you won ukraine war and our hearts&#8230;&#8230;.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60d.png" alt="😍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60d.png" alt="😍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@kotekiti<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Такер карлосон вообще прикольный особенно смех<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@joeloera1669<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker is a fool<br />
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<p>@bigrod997<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great interview!!!!<br />
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<p>@ThoroughYoungin<br />
13 hours ago<br />
28:22 this is true .</p>
<p>@rangerdanger5766<br />
8 days ago<br />
Crazy how much more interesting interviews are when the journalists let their interviewees talk instead of wasting their time and arguing like whiny children. Props to the interview Tucker Carlson!<br />
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<p>@user-cv7kz3kr3p<br />
3 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Такер спасибо!мы Россия -хотис мира на Земле!наш президент лучший <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />мы русские самая толерантная и дружная нация!<br />
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<p>@amonir3818<br />
1 day ago<br />
вот. серьёзно, я считаю, что Такер Карлсон очень хорошо поступил, с международной точки зрения. Это говорит нам, русским, о том, что та самая независимая журналистика на западе ещё жива. А ведь мы молились на неё с 90-ых годов<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Its embarassing to me that america has such uneducated journalists<br />
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<p>@BobMonsieur<br />
6 hours ago<br />
All in all a good interview. Finally the west allowed the russian point if view to be heard. About Tucker Carlson &#8211; he was ok-ish. There were moments he was clearly biassed and a typical yankee &#8211; somewhat arrogant and manipulative. Yet, that is the best we can get now.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Learn how to be less energetic be smart learn and listen</p>
<p>@longrangtylongchar1817<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watching from India. Thank you Tucker. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@thelonesomefisherman7425<br />
7 hours ago (edited)<br />
Reagan called Russia the Evil Empire. What happened to conservatives and the Republican Party that has lead to this? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@CandyWorld30<br />
1 hour ago<br />
How does this interview work, that Tucker appears to either understand Putin speaking Russian or somehow you can&#8217;t hear the translator there, but the interview seems not interrupted?<br />
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<p>@valeriyav<br />
1 hour ago<br />
18.25.. &#8220;Soviet Ukraine&#8221;.<br />
Translator said &#8221; Soviet Union&#8221;.</p>
<p>@dariuslevy7292<br />
1 day ago<br />
This is the greatest political interview ever produced mind blowing <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f92f.png" alt="🤯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@glenngeerinck771<br />
3 hours ago<br />
pease respond <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f97a.png" alt="🥺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@isaiahmcguffey9700<br />
8 days ago<br />
Blessed are the peacemakers. May God bless and protect you Tucker.<br />
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<p>@Dr.Watson.01<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Reflecting on the Russia-Ukraine conflict prompts a nuanced perspective. Viewing Russia and Ukraine as essentially one nation, the conflict appears rooted in geopolitical maneuvering, notably by the U.S. A desire to pull Ukraine into NATO&#8217;s orbit threatens Russia&#8217;s security, prompting defensive actions. While criticisms of Putin abound, his stance reflects a commitment to safeguarding Russia&#8217;s interests. Despite misgivings over his actions toward Armenia, the prioritization of national interests is understandable because Putin could not be more &#8220;Armenian&#8221; than our head of government, that&#8217;s why I cannot give a shit to this person because what he is doing is just protecting his country.</p>
<p>@GA06777<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Don’t compare two countries. The USA has its own history; it’s just that you have a problem with social equality, or in regular government systems, or simply poor work of the metro and security agencies.</p>
<p>@InsatiableMonkey<br />
1 hour ago<br />
1:10:49 When Vladimir Putin is more in touch with American issues than our own president.<br />
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<p>@random_idiot<br />
1 day ago<br />
Why does Tucker keep asking him to re-explain things that he already clearly laid out minutes ago? And what kind of answer did he thinking he was going to get when he asked Putin to release the urinalist as a gesture of good-will 10 minutes after Putin was talking about how many time his gestures of good-will have been spat on? Good interview but Tucker was acting very strange the whole time.<br />
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<p>@jane0007<br />
4 hours ago (edited)<br />
Bonsoir que veut dire pensées KAMITE</p>
<p>@iceManSwag<br />
7 days ago<br />
Im Russian but I prefer to watch this in English in order to understand has Putins speech been translated correctly. So far Im satisfied with translation good work, still watching. Guys forward &amp; repost this video.<br />
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<p>@RaZumBig<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Очень жаль что англоговорящие народы, находятся в оккупации своих правителей. Информационный вакуум. Это один глоток свежего воздуха!!! Спасибо Такеру! Он правильный американец!!! Очнитесь господа!<br />
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<p>@shanu7uday<br />
16 hours ago<br />
25:00 Putin: “Our good relations with Ukraine are so inevitable” That’s why we are at war <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-pg7qe7td7q<br />
12 hours ago<br />
So in our worst war I&#8217;m not a historian on Vietnam Indonesia was nextdoor I&#8217;m just admiring namer vets still around Vlad but do no u guys quit the iron cutin wile back</p>
<p>@FGGiskard<br />
18 hours ago (edited)<br />
Basing invasions on historical reasons is hilarious. As a Spaniard I would like to speak to South and central america and most of the south and west states in the US and have them back please <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
I guess Italians would like most of Europe and north africa back as well<br />
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<p>@larisa_7774<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Yesterday there were more than 1 million likes, today there are 935 thousand. YouTube why are you doing this?<br />
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<p>@tesscot<br />
9 days ago<br />
Best translator I&#8217;ve EVER heard.<br />
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<p>@happiness72<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
My gratitude for truth!<br />
Thank you Tucker Carlson for your honesty about Russia and it&#8217;s capital Moscow !<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
It&#8217;s very very beautiful!<br />
I watched your interview with Russian President V.V. Putin! I am from Donbass and saw that the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked the peaceful Donbass in the spring of 2014! I went to Russia and became refugee, now I am Russian citizen!<br />
And only 8 years after repeated attempts at a peaceful settlement, Putin V.V.<br />
was forced to start a self-defense campaign to PROTECT CIVILIENT CITIZENS OF DONBASS!<br />
I really want Russian victory in the current war and peace in whole world!<br />
But for now, the consumer format of society, wars and crises, as part of the economy, are artificially created by Western elites!<br />
It is necessary to change the format of society in every country of the world to a creative one, then the most important and valuable thing will be human life and science and everything will be for the benefit of man and society, environmental problems will be solved and future global cataclysms will be prevented!<br />
As President V.V. Putin correctly noted, science and security should be common to all humanity on Earth!<br />
Let it be creative society!<br />
Where all humankind united!<br />
Where main value is a human life!<br />
And our Earth is Motherland for us!<br />
Where first of all is safety!<br />
No boundaries!<br />
We are all together!<br />
Without cataclysms<br />
We&#8217; ll start new page!<br />
And we will live in Golden Age!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
We need to create a public request for a Unified International Scientific Center in order to find a solution to the global problems of ecology and climate change due to the 12 thousand year cycle of disasters!<br />
We are people and we want to live in a world without wars and disasters in our future, in peace around the world, the world in a fair and safe creative society!<br />
We have a responsibility to our children, to our future! WE MUST SAVE US AND OUR CHILDREN AND OUR PLANET EARTH!!!<br />
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<p>@jelena2222<br />
1 day ago<br />
Is Carlson fluent in Russian? I noticed that Putin is connected to a translator, he answers in Russian and he waits with his answer until he gets Carlsons questions/comments translated. But how come Carlson does not have any tool to understand Putin?</p>
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
And learn how to listen</p>
<p>@jeffreymorris735<br />
17 hours ago<br />
We can all see how outmatched Biden is compared to Putin ! Putin is coherent Biden is not</p>
<p>@cindyzbinden7683<br />
1 day ago<br />
Inflation in the US is actually around 12 &#8211; 13%<br />
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<p>@Ithoughtthiswasamerica<br />
8 days ago<br />
This might be the craziest and most compelling thing I’ve ever seen on YouTube<br />
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<p>@carlosquintero09<br />
7 hours ago<br />
The interview of the year<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
and a lot of true on Putin&#8217;s part<br />
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<p>@jobnob3740<br />
4 hours ago (edited)<br />
46:22 &#8211; a bit disgusting moment, but translation made it even worse: what Putin said can be translated as “maybe that was for a reason” or so, but totally not “we should thank god”</p>
<p>@tomdurover<br />
11 hours ago<br />
How would it feel to be with Putin one on one</p>
<p>@handmadecraft5276<br />
11 hours ago<br />
You are very brave person Tucker <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />! As russian, I like this interview with our president.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Be slow on your words</p>
<p>@airiakdrakkhen<br />
8 days ago<br />
Bravo, Mr. Carlson! Wonderful interview.<br />
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<p>@JackBrilla<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Shay Should interview Putin Next <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@benjamintaukel8127<br />
1 day ago<br />
1.Shout out 2 the translater,what a great job ( btw i&#8217;am from Germany &amp; understood almost everything<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fb.png" alt="👍🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />) + 2. My favorite Question was: Who blew up Nordstream? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f937-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🤷‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44c.png" alt="👌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@azfam520<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Tucker Carlson drives thru traffic slappin &#8220;Slav Life&#8221; 100 percent!!</p>
<p>@williwiebe2198<br />
2 hours ago<br />
It seems to that TC is like a first grade student and Putin is like University graduate. That is tha gap of knowledge and understanding. No offence to TC.</p>
<p>@kiravia<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I am from St. Petersburg (the Northern capital of Russia). Russia is the best and strongest power in the world, everyone needs to visit this country. Those who live in the USA or Europe, DO NOT BELIEVE THE TV AND WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU!!!! Russia is not an occupying country, we are not fascists, not nationalists, we just help our neighbors from Donbass who have been bullied for 9 years by the Kiev regime. There are kind people in Russia who will always help you or tell you the time or how to get to a particular place. Love Russia, we are for peace and against the mockery of the Russian population by Ukraine, I hope you are too)<br />
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<p>@eachandeverything1836<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
THANK YOU for this interview Tucker! God Bless you, your family …… GOD BLESS TEXAS and GOD BLESS AMERICA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/203c.png" alt="‼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I would also like to add THANK YOU to Mr. Putin for giving Mr. Carlson this interview.<br />
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<p>@Kevin-cc6hw<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ich nehme alles zurück was ich über diesem Mann gesagt habe.<br />
Jetzt da er argumentiert und begründet &amp; sogar beweist habe ich ein ganz anderes Bild von ihm und find ihn sogar extrem sympathisch.<br />
Habe viel von dem was er erzählt hat nicht gewusst da ja auch viele unoffizielle sachen dabei waren.<br />
Ich denke er wird einfach mit offenen Karten spielen weil er einfach kein bock mehr auf dieses ganze scheiße gelaber von Deutschland und den Amerikanern hat.<br />
Also ich kann ihn irgendwo echt sehr sehr gut verstehen!<br />
Habe seine Kriegsstrategien verfolgt und jetzt mach auch einfach alles Sinn, er will einfach sein Teil vom Land wieder weil sich die Ukrainer und das restliche EU gesindel sich wieder nicht an abmachungen halten können.<br />
Da würd ich ehrlich auch ausrasten aber gut das er nicht übertreibt und sich unter kontrolle hat.<br />
Danke für die Aufklärung Herr Putin.<br />
Wäre irgendwie interessant mehr davon zu erfahren in einem Interview aber wird eh niemals kommen<br />
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<p>@abdulkarimalmukhometov1647<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Ребят, вам нужен адекватный президент. Надеюсь вы сделаете правильный выбор на выборах. Всем нам мира и добра !</p>
<p>@MuhammetKara-<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Please, someone translate this interview into Turkish.</p>
<p>@josephdivineande8085<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Putin is such an intelligent person. I love the way he articulates his case.<br />
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<p>@Hamo_Danielyan<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ara Carlson inchka mer Putini het?<br />
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<p>@iiyyxxnn<br />
9 days ago<br />
I love how even though he can&#8217;t understand that tucker sits there and pays attention, instead of looking around disrespectfully while putin speaks. Great show of respect and honor.<br />
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<p>@user-eo4sh9cl9c<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Thank you, Mr Tucker ! you are trying to show the truth. We are waiting for you again in <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jacobwomble<br />
23 hours ago<br />
I like President Putin&#8217;s ideology. But i really want to admire Tucker maintaining a reinforced, positive, facial expression for hours while not speaking LOL!</p>
<p>@TheKopalhem<br />
5 hours ago<br />
54:18 &#8211; is it &#8220;early THIS year&#8221; or &#8220;LAST YEAR&#8221;? Mr Putin clearly says &#8220;last year&#8221; in Russian, so his words have probably been mistranslated<br />
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<p>@toochunky<br />
1 day ago<br />
What a pity that the final scene of the film “interview” was not repeated. It would be a service to the whole world. Tucker would have become a hero in many countries and would have been immortalized<br />
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<p>@user-sx6iv9hl1h<br />
12 hours ago<br />
the best outcome of this,? inplementing a judge instead of a president in ukraine&#8230; and the goverenment with act like a court of law b/w nato and russia</p>
<p>@CoLtHH<br />
7 days ago<br />
This needs to be translated into several languages so that everybody can watch it<br />
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<p>@saadfadel924<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Tucker is at the peak of stress and fear</p>
<p>@markgoodwin7809<br />
1 day ago<br />
I’m not military but loved this content! Very descriptive and creepy!<br />
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<p>@rohith7605<br />
18 hours ago<br />
LONG LIVE RUSSIA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@BigNacho90<br />
1 day ago<br />
I can&#8217;t fathom how much of a story teller putin is lol.</p>
<p>@user-gu7wy3qj9x<br />
8 hours ago<br />
would usa feel a threat if russia made mexico a member of a military aggressive alliance and tried to built military bases that could launch missiles that could hit new york or los angeles? i guess so&#8230;<br />
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<p>@mastrorio1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Holy. Fu@&amp;ing shit. Tucker you have the balls of a clydesdale. Thank you for this excellence in journalism. It reminds me of the type of interview I might’ve seen when I was a kid.<br />
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<p>@wayfarer1101<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Whatever we think of the interview, ONE thing is sure:<br />
Putin is dropping a lot of comments, which content I have NEVER heard alluded to by Western MSM! Definitely puts quite a different perspective on Western governments&#8217; media spin.<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@zakmoffitt1537<br />
14 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;m a poor 31 year old East Tennessean and I believe him. I hope we stop sending Ukraine money. I wonder if life in Russia is better than manufacturing work here doing a robots job.Watching this interview makes me wanna switch sides and be in a country with a real leader.<br />
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<p>@JohnTytor<br />
12 hours ago (edited)<br />
The topic of Russian history has not been revealed.</p>
<p>@nakedbunjie<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
This is all super interesting. I&#8217;m aware of the older historical events of the region. Is there trustworthy fact checks to confirm Putin&#8217;s story here? I&#8217;ve never been sympathetic toward Russia. Growing up through much of the cold-war it is not in my nature to believe anything from Russia, especially an ex-KBG officer. This interview has me leaning towards understanding why Russia took such a great risk. But I&#8217;m skeptical that any of it&#8217;s true. That being said, I also trust nothing from the US Gov nor NATO. So where does this leave us? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Furthermore, I&#8217;m 100% behind stamping out Naziism in whatever dark place it resides. Socialism almost as bad.</p>
<p>@user-oe4db9bb1k<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Люди даже в пророков божьих камни бросали&#8230; Везде находят изъяны вернее ищут &#8230;<br />
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<p>@robertclark3351<br />
8 days ago<br />
Wow, I need time to process this entire conversation; I had no idea Putin had that depth of worldwide understanding or insight. It didn’t come off to me as rehearsed or honesty, propaganda. Thank you Tucker for taking the risk of doing this controversial interview and asking the hard questions. That took balls Sir.<br />
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<p>@olgad854<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Dear Tucker Carlson, Thank you for the interview with our President Vladimir Putin! It was very joyful that the whole world could hear us! Russia is exactly what President Putin said. Thank you to him for leading our huge country so competently, for his work, courage, and determination. You are a very good journalist, truthful, honest. I pray to God for you to be safe after this interview. Have a nice day, Mr. Carlson!<br />
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<p>@ConfusedBobsleigh-to9lv<br />
1 day ago<br />
Very very interesting and I never seen Mr president putin speaking so much an the interview. This journalist he&#8217;s lucky enough to get the pure information <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jamman7344<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Confirmation of what I already knew from when I lived in Germany</p>
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<p>@andrewschaeffer1660<br />
1 day ago<br />
so thats why putin played around with elon musk like he was an idiot when musk stupidly thought he could just buy these hypersonic missiles from russia that were specifically designed to overcome the US defense systems <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> though musk probably had no interest in sharing info on it to the US it was precaution.</p>
<p>@Chacklas_Makamu<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Who is translating for Tucker course he had no ear-piece, or perhaps he knows Russian?<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jorgeiturbe953<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thank you Mr Carlson for being a true impartial reporter<br />
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<p>@oliviaboateng3579<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Potin is such a gentleman, articulate, know how and very wise<br />
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<p>@VK-fd2sg<br />
1 day ago<br />
Greetings from Siberia! When the people of Russia and the USA start to become friends and visit each other &#8211; then no one will listen to politicians and they will stop lying!!!!! Welcome to one of the most beautiful cities in Siberia &#8211; Tomsk!!!<br />
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<p>@skdesertfun1<br />
17 hours ago<br />
The US has more important things to do than to fund or get involved in the Russia Ukraine war, we should be taking care of our southern border.<br />
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<p>@user-gm2ds2ti1r<br />
1 day ago<br />
Моих 6 друзей на войне . Сами захотели и пошли. Вероятно, что и я пойду, помочь своим друзьям, которые уже там. Знаю ещё человек 5, которые сами пошли, без принуждения. Таких много, Морская Пехота везде&#8230;<br />
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<p>@jodyzannoni<br />
22 hours ago<br />
EBS happening</p>
<p>@kimbryan2014<br />
9 days ago<br />
as a Canadian I wish this wonderfull leader could have talked some sense into our foolish Prime Minister hopefully we head to the poles again and vote in a leader that exercises more wisdom in his decisions<br />
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<p>@travwold7669<br />
1 day ago<br />
Watching this many days later. Putin and social media says this was a sold ball interview. As a simple man in the USA I thought it was a great conversation. I learned a lot and I’m married to a Russian women. ( adopted, not mail order)<br />
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<p>@patrickgerard8011<br />
13 hours ago<br />
I can’t decide if Putin is just insane or playing a character<br />
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<p>@Khaozreigns<br />
18 hours ago<br />
1:51:12 A ghost in the back to the right of the clock hehe.</p>
<p>@zeegermans<br />
1 day ago<br />
And then he got so excited after giving this phenomenal interview that he decided to kill a political opponent in his own prison. What an example of a leader, what a sympathetic person that he locks up those who dare to challenge him. The fact that so many people seem to admire that behavior here is absolutely mind-boggling. Need I remind you why your ancestors stormed the beaches of Normandy? Hint: it wasn&#8217;t to lock up political opponents.<br />
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<p>@AaronBowersable<br />
11 hours ago<br />
when you realize the Russians don&#8217;t forget!</p>
<p>@MsMinusch<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Switzerland.<br />
Tucker, oh my! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ianyshka<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Из России с самыми теплыми пожеланиями! Мы хотим сохранить свою страну, мы любим ее и мы будем стоять за нее, но если вы к нам приедете с добрыми намерениями, будьте уверены &#8211; вы сможете обрести очень много настоящих друзей среди русских. Приезжайте с добром и мы будем рады видеть вас в России <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@innakarpyuk4756<br />
1 day ago<br />
As A Ukrainian I tell you :-tucker doesn’t understand : how much evil they did to us throughout history &#8211; “peace is not a absence of a war but absence of Kremlin “ he didn’t see evil in him . That is unfortunate.<br />
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<p>@McSquirts<br />
7 hours ago<br />
It&#8217;s all apart of the plan</p>
<p>@erthfxce_music<br />
26 minutes ago<br />
Tucker needed a zyn so badly after the first hour lmao</p>
<p>@KonstantinKr1<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Chicha varkin<br />
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<p>@carlsaint2841<br />
7 days ago<br />
The best interpreter I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Respectful kudos to him.<br />
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<p>@ellabender1808<br />
1 day ago<br />
Such a deep interview. Knowledge of world history can never be underestimated, as it teaches us the consequences of certain actions and decisions. No wonder why radical left are trying to rewrite it and no wonder it’s not seriously taught in schools. So glad to hear about the chain of events from Russian side and not from American msm propaganda . Thanks Tucker!<br />
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<p>@dm7732<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Should Alaska prepare <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> now?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@shotlikeharden233<br />
1 day ago<br />
Thanks Tucker<br />
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<p>@kevinashley478<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I am only 11:00 minutes into the interview, and i got to say, he doesnt seem like the crazed madman that the media makes him out to be. That doesnt mean he cant be a dick, but i mean, damn, he is covering 1,000 years of history to explain the Ukrainian and Russian issue. We have what? About 250 years? If I were a Russian, i probably wouldn&#8217;t view him as a psychopathic manifestation of evil. But i have to admit, i didnt major in Russian culture or politics, so i may be talking out my ass.<br />
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<p>@JomsvikingjR<br />
14 hours ago<br />
What was bro yapping about?<br />
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<p>@ashleyraines618<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watched from Florida. Thank you Tucker!God Bless Earth <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Jacobfitzner<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Tucker being called out for wanting to join the CIA</p>
<p>@hugehappygrin<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Tucker, you may not like the LDS, or you may feel nothing about them.<br />
Putin said that Russia practices religious tolerance.<br />
Does that mean that he will allow an LDS temple in one of the major cities?<br />
I left that faith 15 years ago, so I&#8217;m neither advocating nor defending.</p>
<p>@FreeMusic54<br />
16 hours ago<br />
What&#8217;s wrong with Putin&#8217;s left foot?</p>
<p>@blackriveroutfitters7185<br />
1 day ago<br />
Perhaps Putin has forgotten that Stalin and Hilter were collaborators/allies until they had a falling out.<br />
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<p>@orthodoxboxing9159<br />
22 hours ago<br />
What a G</p>
<p>@heloxyz1<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
Watching from India,Thank<br />
You Tucker Carlson.<br />
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<p>@vitalimpactsevengroup6324<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Love your question what of the supernatural? Are these forces non-human? Is God at work regarding? V.I.<br />
(Don’t Believe he’s the one to ask because of long standing traditional Orthodox and faith in the natural realm so to speak approach.</p>
<p>@desertmonsoon1<br />
2 hours ago<br />
No wonder Putin and Trump got a long so damn well. They both dodge direct questions by circling around it for 30 minutes. Having never answered it to the smallest degree.</p>
<p>@creasedpluto1905<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Ngl this was disappointing thought it would be way better</p>
<p>@MosesMcVeigh<br />
9 hours ago<br />
excellent. I have to search lots of background infos to catch it up.<br />
i always consider putin the best leader in the world simply according to his knowledges and his visions.<br />
if i were the journalist，i can do twenty hours of this at least，Tucker is fine.but he is too western.<br />
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<p>@user-pr8my7zb1f<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Я русская , все кого я знаю никто не желает войны ни с кем нигде<br />
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<p>@coldwhispers9187<br />
8 days ago<br />
This is one hell of an interview and answers so many questions. Tucker, this was amazing! Listening to Putins Answers were informative things I did not know about Russia. I loved this!<br />
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<p>@xcaliber6974<br />
1 day ago<br />
Carlson basically just sat there like a child being lectured to in the principles office. As always, he looked as though someone was holding a small turd under his nose.</p>
<p>@atkinsth<br />
1 day ago<br />
All these 2hrs made me add some love to the great Putin&#8230;lovely<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />so amazing <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60d.png" alt="😍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Thank you Tucker for such a great revealing interview of what is really going on and what is about to happen in the future<br />
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<p>@giarrigi<br />
1 day ago<br />
What&#8217;s the deal with everyone showing St. Basil&#8217;s cathedral as the Kremlin?</p>
<p>@YVO007<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ukraine peoples have been identified as being found to be an advanced pastoral &amp; crop farming civilization Flat Fact&#8221;&#8230;! Academically dug up from the thawing permafrost northern Ukraine, a whole village where there was also a tattooed woman dressed in woven cloth. Homes complete with a main community building back when most collectives of humans did not practice home building never mind keeping a farm. On top of this so obviously a matriarch society who both respected the character of their people enough to adorn their leader with such ornate decorations and cloth dated back using many if not all academic methods and restrictions as 6000BC.</p>
<p>@sheila4650<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Calling this an interview is a bit of a stretch</p>
<p>@saintgaiseric3331<br />
9 days ago<br />
Hello, my American friends, Russian here!<br />
I hope this interview will help our countries to exchange thoughts, despite the diplomatic relations we have now. And I wish you, as we say in our country, a peaceful sky above your heads!<br />
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<p>@dm7732<br />
12 hours ago<br />
To be fair, now he should go to Ukraine and take an interview with Zelenskyy.</p>
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<p>@MrColors23<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Could&#8217;ve been an interesting interview. Instead, Putin rambles on about history and Tucker giggles like a school girl when Putin shuts him down.</p>
<p>@maximshumaylovmaxim_energi5591<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Putin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Daviebhoy25cfc<br />
1 day ago<br />
59:55 Tucker didn&#8217;t like that tidbit. Zelensky is nothing more than a coked up actor literally playing the part of a Nations Leader.<br />
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<p>@sevi7301<br />
16 hours ago<br />
He was sincere in his interest to find out if he could join nato, however this does not say anything about if he actuqlly wanted to join. Well dodged the question<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@SolidKnight64<br />
7 days ago<br />
&#8220;No one will be able to seperate the soul.&#8221; &#8230;<br />
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<p>@DrDoomy123<br />
18 hours ago (edited)<br />
Sadly this was not a real interview. Tucker just gave Putin a platform to spout his propaganda. Putin wasn&#8217;t challenged on any of the key issues and in the rare instances Tucker did try to ask tougher questions Putin changed topic or avoided it altogether.<br />
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<p>@timomomomo969<br />
1 day ago<br />
Here we have the spectacle of being played like a fiddle while being completely unaware<br />
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<p>@no_one2197<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Like it or not, this WILL be on history books.<br />
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<p>@LuizFelipe-wo9hx<br />
23 hours ago<br />
I mean, putin is being very sincere. He wants to keep the influence over the ukranian territory because of historical, cultural and safety issues.<br />
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<p>@rubengarcia7265<br />
23 hours ago<br />
You guys put russia first america second<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@DaMadDad<br />
8 days ago<br />
Love it or hate it. This is journalism!<br />
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<p>@1qa827<br />
1 day ago<br />
PURE MADNESS<br />
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<p>@Deep-Sarcasm<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
I think I know why some are having such trouble finding this. 3rd option in my search. The history lesson. Tucker fans don&#8217;t want knowledge (although this is a tad biased by putin)<br />
Tucker fans don&#8217;t even want this, his most impressive attempt at real journalism. They want Tucker to tell them what to think. Not brain pain from information. And it might make them question whether the US is a perfect little angel on the world stage or not.<br />
I&#8217;ve never seen tucker shut up so well. Honestly not a terrible job. He did ask some presumptuous, rude, questions. But overall, for him, pretty good.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
With the way you speak carry yourself and your behaviours</p>
<p>@nellomora12<br />
1 day ago<br />
What a charming tyrant<br />
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<p>@user-tk5mi1si8n<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Meanwhile Katt Williams interview stacked 50+ mil. views<br />
in a few days…</p>
<p>@user-jh6lw7ci2g<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Waching from Cyprus&#8230;.long live to you brave man mr Tucker <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@EricPeelMusic<br />
1 day ago<br />
In case anyone is confused about how Tucker can respond in realtime: The translation is occurring in realtime locally with a high-quality mic which picks up no reverb. Interview mics are muted while the translator speaks. So its really the translator&#8217;s as well as Tucker&#8217;s performance that make this such a perfect production. As well as post-production mics being muted. Why Putin prefers an earpiece over a translator himself? Because he&#8217;s fluent in English therefore doesn&#8217;t need one. The earpiece has almost nothing to do with the interview. He needs to hear whats going on at all times elsewhere, which he&#8217;s able to listen to and process while carrying out the interview.<br />
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<p>@jeaninevalentijn9764<br />
11 hours ago<br />
How would it work out if the USA leaves NATO, and Russia in exchange leaves Ukraine (incl. Donbass etc.) ?</p>
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<p>@mechabasutto8228<br />
7 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fc.png" alt="👍🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fc.png" alt="👍🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fc.png" alt="👍🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@kimo5059<br />
1 day ago<br />
I actually think Carson did a quite good job containing himself. Putin really is a narcissist and he actually comes across even worse than I’d thought he would. He really is deluded and impossible to reason with or argue with. He is right no matter the facts.<br />
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<p>@grumpdogg213<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Interviewing his boss</p>
<p>@batmandestroys1978<br />
9 days ago<br />
This is not CNN, this is Tucker Carson Network!<br />
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<p>@koketsomokone2975<br />
16 hours ago<br />
One thing thats clear from this interview is that Putin has no desires to return to &#8220;Soviet Russia&#8221;</p>
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<p>@irfanmalik-fo6rh<br />
1 day ago<br />
An exceptional leader, highly intelligent, not only addressed the queries but also enlightened the Western world and the USA. He effectively dispelled the fear-mongering propaganda surrounding a Russian invasion. I trust this will instill rationality in the general populace.<br />
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<p>@timmc4664<br />
1 day ago<br />
Now everyone has to move back to Africa since we all come from there 6,000,000-2,000,000 years ago.<br />
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<p>@000xio<br />
1 day ago<br />
The former president of Mongolia was inspired by Putin and rolled out a historical map of his country. In order to remind (jokingly) that the entire modern territory of the Russian Federation SHOULD BELONG to the descendants of Genghis Khan.<br />
“I found a historical map of Mongolia. Don&#8217;t worry. We are a peaceful and free nation,” Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj tweeted &#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@_highlyunlikely_<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Sosia!</p>
<p>@roccocarlino933<br />
9 days ago (edited)<br />
This is FREEDOM OF SPEECH<br />
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<p>@oliverdelgaram-nejad<br />
10 hours ago<br />
46:10 Putin makes quite a personal jab at Tucker&#8217;s CIA aspirations here: &#8216;thank God they didn&#8217;t let you in. I understand, it&#8217;s quite a serious organisation&#8217;. It&#8217;s quite interesting to see how Putin pairs background knowledge and psychological low blows. He was coming across as quite measured and sincere up until this point. Seemed like quite a mean comment.</p>
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<p>@IliaSuchcow<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Теперь и Григорий Малкоф может вдыхать свободный воздух Америки.</p>
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<p>@freakman12345<br />
1 day ago<br />
You should go to Gaza to reveal the true stories about the people there.<br />
What kind of life have they had for the past several decades?<br />
Then ask for ceasefire.<br />
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<p>@ALittleLessPiratey<br />
12 hours ago<br />
I&#8217;m happy that Tucker has decided to do this interview, if there was more talking like this there would be less war<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Although i do love you you look amazing</p>
<p>@rc&#8230;.<br />
7 days ago<br />
If Tucker interviewed Biden, we would need such a skilled translator as well <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />! And if the interview lasted 2 hours, He would need a 90 minutes nap in between.<br />
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<p>@nastarinaccessories5528<br />
1 day ago<br />
Legend journalist <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@eddyrose2430<br />
1 day ago<br />
Good stuff right here</p>
<p>@user-tu5te7le9j<br />
15 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-mc4fl6ql1o<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Как такое возможно, что в первые сутки было 100 миллионов просмотров, а сейчас, спустя неделю стало 17 миллионов просмотров?<br />
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<p>@HP_lovecrafts_cat<br />
1 hour ago<br />
why didn&#8217;t you ask about the wagner coup?</p>
<p>@Nupagade246<br />
9 days ago<br />
Thank you Tucker this was AWSOME!!!!<br />
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<p>@ellaskinner8507<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Tucker be like, &#8220;why did you invade Ukraine?&#8221; Putin be like: &#8220;1.5 billion wears ago when the big bang happened (3 hours later) then comes about a dude called Oleg in the 13th century &#8221; xo</p>
<p>@tuckerevans1587<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Respect gained for both sides. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@joshcamacho6342<br />
8 hours ago<br />
He got the trump tan<br />
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<p>@choyon2924<br />
1 day ago<br />
Powerful Leader Vladimir Putin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
with Powerful Journalist <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f342.png" alt="🍂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@spygee__<br />
3 minutes ago<br />
how are you not <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f480.png" alt="💀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />?</p>
<p>@user-fv2xc4sl6w<br />
9 days ago<br />
This interview will go down in the history books!!!<br />
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<p>@surviainen6979<br />
1 day ago<br />
It has been part of Russian culture since Mongol times that challengers to the leader do not survive. Prigozin died last summer. Now this price has been paid by opposition leader Aleksei Navalnyi.RIP.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@lumbinipathirage733<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Tucker did a good job. This will enlighten people of US and hope that the world will be a better place. By the looks of it, few old idiots like Borris did this to the world.<br />
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<p>@azanshukor428<br />
10 hours ago<br />
okay next interview Netanyahu .. why he killed Palestinians<br />
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<p>@FireOX_aka_Syndicate.<br />
1 day ago<br />
Я рад, что США начинает нас понимать))<br />
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<p>@sevi7301<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Electorate with positive relations towards russia &#8211; basically saiyng we accepted the independence of ukraine as long as they had people in power that we could control but ones that was not possible anymore we took crimea…</p>
<p>@blueash8208<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from senegal <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f8-1f1f3.png" alt="🇸🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> legendary interview thanks mr tucker<br />
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<p>@MrJetexjim<br />
11 hours ago<br />
In Putin&#8217;s history lesson he neglects to mention that when the city of Kiev was founded Moscow was little more than a village. Too bad Carlson didn&#8217;t think to ask Putin why Kiev should be ruled from Moscow.</p>
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<p>@stanleysessor6993<br />
14 hours ago<br />
He made Tucker look like a useful idiot. Putin had know respect for him. He finds Tucker and Trump to be useful.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
22 hours ago<br />
God made a law sayin the bigger you wanna be smaller you will get</p>
<p>@alanchen6625<br />
1 day ago<br />
Putins more educated than any US president <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@jaycoc7026<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Tucker not southern dont put this on us</p>
<p>@abdimuhumedaden1930<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Kenya <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f0-1f1ea.png" alt="🇰🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> thank you mr Carlson for bringing this.<br />
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<p>@polarisjustdothework2258<br />
23 hours ago<br />
We are forcing our children to kill each other over dirt. Regardless of how legitimate our claims are to any lands, it always boils down to idolatry. idolatry over dirt&#8230;.<br />
This may sound crazy on your first read, but God lays out His ways in the Bible very clearly. Bowing down to the rule of kings or presidents or any other label of ruler is against God&#8217;s will for us.<br />
And so is the killing of innocence over dirt!!! We send our children as sacrifices. Sacrifices for the rule of man and land that we claim is worth dying for. It is a false sense of security and a false sense of power, and it breaks God&#8217;s heart!!!</p>
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<p>@fantomSilver<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Finally<br />
A worthy dialog between two educated and impressive Men<br />
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<p>@yogiine<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Im norwegian.. but i dont like nato. These love wars.<br />
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<p>@LarisaTrus<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Я живу в России, моя семья многонациональная: русские, украинцы, белорусы, и при этом каждый из нас считает себя русским. Я люблю свою Россию. Каждый русский в моей стране не хочет вреда Украине, мы сострадаем простым людям, которые сейчас гибнут при военных действиях. Это вина американских политиков, смерть молодых мужчин России и Украины лежит на совести Америки. Благодарю Такера за честность.<br />
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<p>@Alaskovi<br />
57 minutes ago<br />
Its like talking to Hitler and getting a lecture on &#8216;Aryan&#8217; history.</p>
<p>@MiMi-sz7de<br />
9 days ago<br />
Greetings from Germany. IT is RIGHT to talk with the russian President<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. Great and this was so important<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Thank you Tucker Carlson. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@tra-viskaiser8737<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Finally some actual intellect and journalism&#8230;<br />
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<p>@user-ew6ig9yu9j<br />
1 day ago<br />
Лучшее интервью чтоб лбди в мире открыли глаза<br />
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<p>@sheila4650<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The concerned face is hilarious and pathetic<br />
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<p>@Henry-the-Eight<br />
1 day ago<br />
Great interview with a very intelligent leader so greatly misunderstood by stupid Western governments<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f644.png" alt="🙄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Jesusisking516<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
I wish for world powers to realize how bad is playing with living beings for material things. In the end every knee will bow to Jesus Lord.</p>
<p>@tommymeissner5978<br />
8 days ago<br />
Ive been watching this for 2 hrs and i have watched the views<br />
go from 400k to over a million.<br />
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<p>@RocksanaTalks<br />
1 day ago<br />
From Russia with love! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f91c.png" alt="🤜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f91b.png" alt="🤛" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-xn6lq6ob9y<br />
5 hours ago (edited)<br />
Dear Tucker, we wish you to become the President of the USA, the imminent President, using your words, as soon as possible, no one except you<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@lizamarieliteral9544<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Brilliant President..<br />
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<p>@jeffreyknitt7358<br />
1 day ago<br />
Next I’d like to see a sit down with Joe Rogan about this interview, I’m sure there would be interesting Dialogue</p>
<p>@user-fm2iw3um3u<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Good interview.<br />
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<p>@TSD0416<br />
8 days ago<br />
I’m not sure if there are awards for translators, but if there is, the gentleman who translated the entire interview should receive the highest honour. I speak three languages myself (English, German and Farsi/Persian) and I translate news for my parents all the time, it’s not an easy task to remember everything and every word.<br />
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<p>@GamerModz123<br />
1 day ago<br />
The modern Russian people evolved out of the Rus people who were literally called the Kievan Rus. They were a mixture of Norse, Baltic, Slav, and eventually eastern Eurasian people. The regions of Ukraine that kicked off this war were inhabited by Russian Ukrainians for centuries. They were always Russian linguistically and culturally.<br />
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<p>@FernandoRodriguez-jq6yp<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Putin is the perfect example of a narcissist.<br />
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<p>@studzi7892<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Yall think Tucker got a Zyn in the upper deck rn?<br />
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<p>@kevinashley478<br />
1 hour ago<br />
One hour into the interview, and I am disgusted. Whatever good the CIA and FBI do, it is offset and overwhelmed by all the damage they do. Like him or not, agree or disagree, Putin did what any responsible leader should do. He perceived a threat, tried many times to go through the diplomatic channels, but when everyone turned their backs, he did what he believed was necessary to protect his country and its assets. It would be fantastic if we had a president that put our country before others. We had one, but he said mean words so clearly we had to change him out with the most incompetent president in the history of this country. Not to mention that history will record him as the only president thay managed to do EVERYTHING wrong; he hasnt done a single thing that was good, right, satisfactory, ok, or even not completely bad/wrong. I wish we had a leader like Putin.<br />
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<p>@edwardescalante4751<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hey they are correct we should get our self involved. Our taxes are paying for everything</p>
<p>@laliedutoit<br />
8 days ago<br />
Brilliant Interview and the translator &#8211; give that man a gold medal!<br />
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<p>@Sohelanthropus<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Thank you Tucker for reporting stuff like this, the world nowadays is ruled by rats and people with high schemes<br />
It&#8217;s good, and necessary, to be informed about what&#8217;s going on in this planet, we&#8217;re all living here and nowhere else at the end of the day<br />
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<p>@juliedepp8470<br />
1 day ago<br />
Russians cannot be defeated, they are strong and persistent.They love their homeland.They are for truth and honor. For my family and for my traditions. They are kind and stubborn! A Russian person will always find the truth.</p>
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<p>@terryhayes6294<br />
3 hours ago<br />
OK.. here names halely n she rocks hèart</p>
<p>@olliegarcia2306<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Man this is awesome I’m team Russia now!! Who’s with me!!!??<br />
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<p>@Livinlivin836<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker Carlson swears he remembers everything, let him talk and others listen. He’s being very rude</p>
<p>@jaysmith2151<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Florida thank you Tucker.<br />
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<p>@EsKaioS<br />
10 hours ago (edited)<br />
I&#8217;m glad someone&#8217;s finally showed/told the other side of the story, instead of another rage-bait article trying to paint Russia as the next Japan/Germany starting a world war. Hopefully we get more answers but from the other side: if/why NATO actually doesn&#8217;t want Russia to join, Ukraine&#8217;s perspective on &#8216;breaking&#8217; the treaties, and of course whoever is in charge of this in the US.<br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
1 day ago<br />
Navalny, we will never forget you. Justice will be served<br />
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<p>@ali_ah_alo12th<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Most views<br />
in this video</p>
<p>@shadesofpurple7283<br />
20 hours ago<br />
This interview will be remembered for a very long time. I just think it&#8217;s sad that tucker felt like putin was wasting time in his answers. People can agree with Putin or not but no one can deny he is rational, articulate and intelligent.<br />
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<p>@softwhiskey8240<br />
16 hours ago<br />
why would he even interview a criminal with 80iq?<br />
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<p>@irinaa2688<br />
7 days ago<br />
You know, brother, the power is in the truth. Whoever has the truth is stronger.<br />
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<p>@user-wn5rv7hl3l<br />
15 hours ago (edited)<br />
My Russia stands tall and proud!<br />
And how the West did cheer,<br />
When a brute with a face like a brick,<br />
Drank Russia dry, like a beer.<br />
In a drunken stupor, he&#8217;d declare,<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ll drink it all away!&#8221;<br />
And the Yankees rubbed their hands with glee,<br />
&#8220;Soon we&#8217;ll finish them off, they say.&#8221;<br />
But one came forth, not tall in height,<br />
With a clear and steady gaze,<br />
&#8220;Go forth,&#8221; said God, &#8220;I&#8217;ll be your guide,&#8221;<br />
And so he went his ways.<br />
He asked for strength from God above,<br />
Without fanfare, fuss, or talk,<br />
He shouldered Russia&#8217;s broken form,<br />
Upon his frail and humble stalk.<br />
And so, Mother Russia was reborn,<br />
And grew stronger day by day,<br />
But the West&#8217;s friends began to wail,<br />
And shriek in wild dismay.<br />
America gnashes its teeth,<br />
They cannot comprehend,<br />
That this man will never disgrace,<br />
His beloved native Mother Russia.<br />
And over the world, he stands so tall,<br />
With a smile both bright and true,<br />
Unconquerable Prince Vladimir,<br />
A worthy son of Holy Rus!<br />
Greetings to all the good people of the world from Russia, with love! Peace to the world!<br />
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<p>@mark_pherz<br />
1 day ago<br />
The fact that many people praise the translator without realizing that the translation was done in post production and it&#8217;s not the translation Tucker heard during the interview itself gives a great insight into the average IQ of Fox News and Tucker&#8217;s content consumers<br />
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<p>@thomas-zs2jm<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Nobody:<br />
Putin: class is now in session</p>
<p>@laurak8697<br />
1 day ago<br />
History lecture made me laugh and angry same time. Putin is complete lunatic <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Go to school first before askin someone about ukraine america invaded more worlds than anyone<br />
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<p>@rhena229<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watched the entire 2 hours. Fascinating!<br />
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<p>@danjohn2365<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker is sounding like a total CIA Asset in this one! So far Tucker is IGNORING the mass murder of Russian speaking Eastern Urkanians by the Porashanko and Zelensky regimes!</p>
<p>@nh7650<br />
1 day ago<br />
Alexei Navalny, does a serious journalist who interviews Putin, ask about him? Shame on you Tucker….<br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Mr PUdding</p>
<p>@TehXilee<br />
14 hours ago<br />
I love how people are trying to label Carlson as a potential collaborator when you can clearly see he&#8217;s getting tired of Putin talk about shit that stretches all the way back to the 1300s. Man&#8217;s just asking questions and letting the interviewee speak for themselves, like an actual journalist should.<br />
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<p>@ETz-RYANH.<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Y<br />
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<p>@lisabunk6762<br />
8 days ago<br />
This one will go into history. Watching from the Netherlands <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f3-1f1f1.png" alt="🇳🇱" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@dl2.504B<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Corrupt politicians of our tyrannical government have implemented the idea of hating Russia and it&#8217;s leaders for so long, it&#8217;s hard for people to understand Putin, and naturally people hate him. I actually like Putin and respect him as a person and leader, he makes sense when he&#8217;s speaking about current events and politics and reasoning. He&#8217;s not such a terrible person the world (corrupt) leaders make him out to be.<br />
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<p>@yesterdayschunda1760<br />
52 minutes ago<br />
I find it hilarious that Putin speaks perfect English but refuses to because everyone thinks he sounds cute when he speaks English.</p>
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<p>@SaraLovesTea<br />
1 day ago<br />
I dont see a single tht this guy said tht doesnt make sense <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f615.png" alt="😕" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> personally Im sick of the media twisting our arm. Can be real and anti war for once?<br />
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<p>@icelandviking1961<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Feb 17th and this has almost 18 million views<br />
. I don’t think I have ever seen a video with that many views<br />
in such a short time.<br />
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<p>@dqueezytv<br />
1 hour ago<br />
NATO would be tooo close</p>
<p>@savagegfry<br />
7 days ago<br />
&#8220;Nobody will be able to seperate the soul&#8221;!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@j.pierre2548<br />
1 day ago<br />
if you want a history lesson on Russia and Europe just watch this <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@cherylcallahan5402<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker and Putin seemed a good review</p>
<p>@ashaman81<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Ethical plastic surgeons don&#8217;t do breast enlargements until girls are in there early twenties at least due to the body still developing.</p>
<p>@ujjawaltyagi8540<br />
1 day ago<br />
It would be really great to sea what is the reaction of people of Ukraine on this interview and the things he said. Like obviously we can expect a variety of sentiments from public but still what really Ukrainian people think about these topics or are they being fooled by US and West sponsored media to hate russia.<br />
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<p>@kspades2530<br />
10 hours ago<br />
1:46:50 this is a good question. Could journalists ask this in the united states?<br />
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<p>@aliashfaque1746<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
I now understand why hilary panicked and created her own interview out of fear xD<br />
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<p>@breveennkukan3603<br />
1 day ago<br />
Enjoyed the interview. Putin is intelligent.<br />
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<p>@MLeeF123<br />
23 hours ago<br />
This is EXACTLY why President Trump showed Putin some level of respect. He is a military man, educated, knows his history, and is very capable of becoming lethal if we allow it. Why would we not try to mend relations and work with Russia rather than continue to throw money at a failing war? Putin is a strong leader and is well liked among Russians. I don&#8217;t understand why we continue to fight him.</p>
<p>@brindad1133<br />
16 hours ago<br />
LMFAO Putin thought he was a joke <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2622.png" alt="☢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2622.png" alt="☢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@KAVKAZEC_05<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Есть много президентов разных стран, и есть В.В. Путин. Таких как В.В. Путин больше не будет и я горд что он наш президент. Братский ему салам от всего народа Дагестана! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4aa-1f3fd.png" alt="💪🏽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fc.png" alt="👍🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@zindoria5680<br />
1 day ago<br />
We love you putin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@TheColin10004<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from earth! Great job Tucker!<br />
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<p>@sighfly2928<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Should have asked him about Navalny, to me his death is almost equivalent to Nelson Mandela being killed by the British on Robben Island. Let’s see what the Russian people can do…<br />
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<p>@Evan-ni7hb<br />
12 hours ago<br />
I’m sorry but why was tucker Carlson the interviewer for this? He didn’t ask tough questions and Putin walked all over him, Vladimir is a KGB shoulder first and wants the Soviet Union back, he doesn’t deserves Ukraine<br />
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<p>@kondziro<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Could use a second interview, to ask about navalny&#8217;s death. 47 years old direct politcal opponent dying in prison is not a good look.<br />
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<p>@HelenaVanCity<br />
1 day ago<br />
Tucker, your facial expression when you&#8217;re listening to President Putin is that of an intelligent dog <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> No offence. I love dogs, and they&#8217;re real smart. Smarter than some presidents :))))))</p>
<p>@rosswhite9179<br />
23 minutes ago<br />
Good ol&#8217; traitor tucker<br />
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<p>@bojowong2242<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Philippines. Thank you tucker!<br />
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<p>@syednoumanshahabjilani1921<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Putin is an extremely intellectual person.<br />
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<p>@danieljoslin707<br />
1 day ago<br />
Well let&#8217;s be honest, Putin gives a better interview than Biden, at least it&#8217;s cognisent <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@paulc4302<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Putins ragdoll&#8230; &#8220;1 million years ago the planet was cooling&#8221;</p>
<p>@mohamedabdo9109<br />
1 day ago<br />
I absolutely love Vladimir Putin<br />
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<p>@smk6650<br />
9 hours ago<br />
I did notice him touch his nose as he said there was a video of aircraft attack Donbas in 2014 (47:33)</p>
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<p>@a.m.6499<br />
8 days ago<br />
Way to go, Tucker, luv you. Please be careful, not of Putin, but of USA<br />
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<p>@user-sp1rr4it9o<br />
1 day ago<br />
Американцы не понимают, что демократия у них заканчивается тогда, когда речь идет о внешней политике. Я как россиянин, переживал за Tucker Carlson, я бы не хотел чтобы он говорил только хорошее о нас, а то вдруг с ним что-то случилось бы в США. А так скажу, что Карлсон очень интересный и на мой взгляд, честный человек!<br />
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<p>@melutox<br />
6 hours ago<br />
This is the funniest interview I&#8217;ve seen in my life and I&#8217;m only 3 minutes in. I am literally crying of laughter. I can&#8217;t believe Putin is actually being serious and that just makes it even funnier.<br />
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<p>@Mulinby<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Tucker, come to Minsk and interview Lukashenko. They write a lot of lies about us too, except for you there is no one to tell the truth<br />
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<p>@rfilms9310<br />
1 day ago<br />
this century seems to be the century of taking back ancestral lands, i want spania and portugal back as they belong to my muslim ancestors for a millenia</p>
<p>@dflojr1<br />
1 day ago<br />
Putin got jokes. Putin told Tucker he was too goofy to join the CIA HAHA</p>
<p>@user-ml6go5uq8c<br />
9 days ago<br />
Congrats Tucker. Awesome job!!!<br />
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<p>@thomasjespersen2399<br />
21 hours ago<br />
After that beautiful history lesson by Putin, I say that Denmark just take back Norway, Sweden and some good chunk of Northern Germany. And maybe some of the Danish settlements in Iowa and Minnesota as well, since I noticed some neo-nazism there? After all, it is all in the history&#8230;</p>
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<p>@pawe7941<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Astolphe de Custine (francuski pisarz i podróżnik): „W Rosji, szczerość uważają za szaleństwo. To jest rozsądne! W istocie! Przecież całe rosyjskie życie we wszystkich sferach — to nieustanny zamach na prawdę. Dla Rosjan zdrajcą jest ten, kto nie kłamie. Odrzucenie kłamstwa traktowane jest jako zdrada państwa”.<br />
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<p>@ThornsOfOurTime<br />
1 day ago<br />
Suddenly every channel that spread this … is quiet about sudden departure of another man who opposed putin , hmmm<br />
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<p>@paprykazpapieru5716<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Pov : jesteś Polakiem/Polką i po przeczytaniu komentarzy Anglosasów odnośnie &#8220;wspaniałości putina&#8221; ( specjalnie z małej) nie możesz zadziwić się naiwności, ignorancji i niewiedzy na temat współczesnej rosji i jej historii. No chyba że są to ruskie trole, ale aż tyle ich matuszka rosija nie naprodukowała, oczywiście mogę się mylić.<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />Pozdrawiam</p>
<p>@mattc7166<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Carlson is such a joke. Even Putin made fun of him after.<br />
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<p>@muratmurat9906<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Michigan state university. Auditorium is full. Bravo <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@barrydinh<br />
1 day ago<br />
&#8220;Хрен его знает&#8221;. Хахаха, давно так не ржал. Если вы заметили, Владимир Владимирович всегда по факту говорит и по факту так и было&#8230; Давайте мирно жить, но нет США нужно доминировать весь мир, особенно Россия кто не слушает и пугает. США всегда сует нос куда не надо.<br />
Мир вам всем и здоровья из Вьетнама. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fb-1f1f3.png" alt="🇻🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fb-1f1f3.png" alt="🇻🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fb-1f1f3.png" alt="🇻🇳" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@SleepyV3rt<br />
1 day ago<br />
Never though i&#8217;ll see a day when Americans are agreeing more with Putin than anyone else, I guess people can change&#8230;..</p>
<p>@jonathanpacemusic<br />
1 hour ago<br />
I hope you stay in Russia, you seem to like it a lot there!<br />
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<p>@ezekielmak5985<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Great work.Putin is the greatest president the world will ever see.<br />
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<p>@dieeinhorntester1835<br />
18 hours ago<br />
Crazy. So many things so untrue, it is unbelievable.<br />
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<p>@Rjtaylor12<br />
9 days ago<br />
Thank you Tucker! Great piece of real Journalism!<br />
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<p>@user-mp2wr5or9y<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Mr Putin sure is a true amasing Leader<br />
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<p>@Farbeyondhell<br />
17 hours ago<br />
God bless the soul of Alexei Navalny <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-in7tk8uq2r<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Putin could prolly sell me a Honda civic with 200k miles for $25,000</p>
<p>@nebulajumper6216<br />
1 day ago<br />
We can all have our feelings about Putin. But this guy knows his history.<br />
I&#8217;d love to listen to Biden about the history of the United States. Knowing that this history is very short, compared to that of Europe.</p>
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<p>@russian_world_4ever<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Thanks for truth mr.Carlson.<br />
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<p>@Evocati-Augusti<br />
9 days ago<br />
This should have a million views<br />
by tomorrow afternoon&#8230;<br />
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<p>@urthpainter<br />
22 hours ago<br />
this interview should be respected for it&#8217;s representation of free speech &#8211; But Tucker allowed himself to be owned and used by a foreign autocrat. Tucker was a submissive coward in the face of a real opportunity and got outmaneuvered in his own comfort zone. He should apologize for his lack of preparation and meek approach to this interview.<br />
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<p>@miranda7543<br />
20 hours ago (edited)<br />
I&#8217;m sorry but just watching a few minutes. P is a manipulator and an expert at it<br />
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<p>@thatskyphilosopher1936<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
&#8220;This is a provocation and a cheap provocation at that. I do not understand why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine. Well, if somebody has the desire to send in regular troops, that would certainly bring humanity to the brink of very serious global conflict. This is obvious. Do the United States need this? What for? Thousands of miles away from your National Territory. Don&#8217;t you have anything better to do? You have issues on the border; issues with migration, issues with the national debt: more than $33 trillion. You have nothing better to do so you should fight in Ukraine? Wouldn&#8217;t it be better to negotiate with Russia? Make an agreement already understanding the situation that is developing today realizing that Russia will fight its in interest to the end? Realizing this actually return to common sense respecting our country and its interest and look for certain solutions. It seems to me that this is much smarter and more rational&#8221; &#8211; Vladimir Putin<br />
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<p>@darkultra<br />
1 day ago<br />
I wish the Russian people the best <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> That is press freedom, better democracy, no wars and less Putin <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@niseikayasso1588<br />
16 hours ago<br />
This interview is very interesting.<br />
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<p>@andyhelliwell4955<br />
7 days ago<br />
One thing that this interview and the comments about it shows, is how sick we all are of career politicians, and their endless corruption and lying. This goes for the media too.<br />
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<p>@steverapposelli6104<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Tucker, next time take Jane Fonda with you and you both can stay there together.</p>
<p>@user-wi4xj9pv5v<br />
1 day ago<br />
Гой ты, Русь, моя родная,<br />
Хаты &#8211; в ризах образа&#8230;<br />
Не видать конца и края &#8211;<br />
Только синь сосёт глаза.<br />
Как захожий богомолец,<br />
Я смотрю твои поля.<br />
А у низеньких околиц<br />
Звонно чахнут тополя.<br />
Пахнет яблоком и мёдом<br />
По церквам твой кроткий Спас.<br />
И гудит за корогодом<br />
На лугах весёлый пляс.<br />
Побегу по мятой стежке<br />
На приволь зеленых лех,<br />
Мне навстречу, как сережки,<br />
Прозвенит девичий смех.<br />
Если крикнет рать святая:<br />
«Кинь ты Русь, живи в раю!»<br />
Я скажу: «Не надо рая<br />
Дайте родину мою».</p>
<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Stop supplyin weapons lol</p>
<p>@jorgeserrano4395<br />
7 days ago<br />
Great interview<br />
The world needed this interview<br />
I hope there will be a second part<br />
Excellent Tucker!!!<br />
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<p>@user-pg7qe7td7q<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Ya Vlad america is always trying to play cowboys and Indians with someone</p>
<p>@DavidCampbell-gu8zh<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Too much to keep up with</p>
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<p>@letcuth4182<br />
8 days ago<br />
I watched this interview last night with 200k viewer now it’s more than 8 million.<br />
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<p>@crackette2312<br />
23 hours ago<br />
WOW . Mr Carlson i watched this entire video. not that i like Mr Putin , he did have about 8 points of intrest .SAD part is the current Prez of the US could not do a 2 + hr interview with out help</p>
<p>@roychong5827<br />
17 hours ago<br />
it is really strange, weird and scary how there are only comments of praise&#8230;<br />
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<p>@jasonkauppinen3475<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watched from Canada. This interview needed to happen.<br />
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<p>@David-fu3yk<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Der Urknall beschreibt im Zeitstrahl der Urknalltheorie, die Bildung des Uratoms, in dem Raum, Zeit und Materie vereint sind. Somit ist es der Zeitpunkt „Null“. Die Urknalltheorie streckt sich hingegen bis auf 180 Millionen Jahre, bis die ersten Sterne entstehen.</p>
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<p>@neringamikol7781<br />
23 hours ago<br />
1:37:00 Oleksandr Semenovych Zelenskyy was born in Kryvyi Rih, Soviet Ukraine, on 23 December 1947. How was he fighting during the WWII?</p>
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<p>@Jxcbnnn<br />
8 days ago<br />
When I wake up tmr I better see this vid with 340 mil views<br />
. Everyone in the U.S needs to watch this because this is journalism.<br />
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<p>@thebeginner7606<br />
53 minutes ago (edited)<br />
46:17 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f976.png" alt="🥶" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@jaiparaskevas824<br />
23 hours ago<br />
I just sat through 2 hours of putin bullshitting. wonderful.<br />
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<p>@j3ll3ymonst3r<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Watching from the UK. Bravo Tucker!!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fb.png" alt="👏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Thank you <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fc.png" alt="🙏🏼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jeffwhitelock1013<br />
1 day ago<br />
Of course youtube trying to suppress this! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> as many views<br />
this had it should have been top trending? You cant even find it by searching trucker putin<br />
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<p>@ricardodommisse8698<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Keep the formula Russia&#8217;yea yea ji</p>
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<p>@benkaram1024<br />
7 days ago<br />
First time in my life i watched the whole 2hrs interview .<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@puha_star<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Вы топ<br />
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<p>@FJRyder<br />
8 days ago<br />
One of the longest interviews i have ever watched through it&#8217;s entirety. Thank you Mr. Carlson<br />
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<p>@AustrianExpat<br />
7 days ago<br />
Europes Leaders are really highly incompetent. Its a tragedy.<br />
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<p>@AlexanderSander<br />
9 days ago<br />
I think this will be the most watched interview ever<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@DevonWildZillaTeschJr<br />
9 days ago<br />
1 Million subs! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Congratulations Tucker well deserved!<br />
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<p>@Damian-117<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thank you, Tucker! Keep up the great journalism. Watching from Ireland. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ee-1f1ea.png" alt="🇮🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ironshark6859<br />
7 days ago<br />
In Italy no one mainstream news channel has shown this interview with translation or subtitles&#8230;only some independent channel did it. Mainstream channels did only some titles that doesn&#8217;t represent the right concepts and theme of Putin speech. We live inside a bubble built by our elite.<br />
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<p>@arthurlewicki559<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from UK. Great interview<br />
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<p>@tesfayesuszinare939<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Ethiopia, thank you, Mr. Carlson!<br />
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<p>@konstantinosgymnopoulos6654<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Greece.<br />
Thank you Tucker. Big fan.<br />
Ευχαριστώ πολύ.<br />
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<p>@PatriotGirl24<br />
9 days ago<br />
What an excellent and informative interview. Thank you Tucker Carlson. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@lc4817<br />
8 days ago<br />
Enjoyed him telling the Russian history. Thankyou.<br />
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<p>@andrewturner9760<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
How is this not trending on YouTube? Almost 7m views<br />
in less than 18 hours…. The top trending video on YouTube has half of the views<br />
with the same amount of time. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@hazzah3104<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thank you Tucker from Australia<br />
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<p>@user-vg2ge1lx6j<br />
9 days ago<br />
Actual journalism, wonderful<br />
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<p>@gladysp2623<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thanks for making a difference- finally real journalism!<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@zamorochenny<br />
9 days ago<br />
Dear Mr Carlson. I am Russian and I wanna watch this absolutely important interview in Russian. Please, upload this video with Russian speech. We are so appreciate for you and sorry for my crappable English. Thank you!<br />
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<p>@zoraidaiglesias934<br />
9 days ago<br />
God we need you. Thank you Tucker for this interview<br />
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<p>@AlexGarcia-ke5oh<br />
9 days ago<br />
Peace be upon humanity. End wars. God bless all.<br />
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<p>11 replies</p>
<p>@11dra1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from OHIO, U.S.A. Well done Tucker!<br />
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<p>@michaelsuttree<br />
9 days ago<br />
Just finished the interview. You’ve now become legend. Incredible.<br />
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<p>@OO-uo2td<br />
8 days ago<br />
As an native speaking person, translation is outstanding. Great job to all crue.<br />
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<p>6 replies</p>
<p>@jenkinboykz0<br />
8 days ago<br />
the translator is supreme. The cadence, word choice&#8230; amazing<br />
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<p>@chaoticallyorganizedd<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watching from Brazil! All my respect to a true journalist, something we, unfortunately, no longer have around here!<br />
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<p>@KorsarNik<br />
8 days ago<br />
Let&#8217;s see how in the next hours the media will cut the whole thing to shape a completely different story in a bite-size format. To present a completely different picture than you get watching an unfiltered interview.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@irumf155<br />
8 days ago<br />
The world needed to hear this<br />
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<p>25 replies</p>
<p>@monkeyearcheese420<br />
8 days ago<br />
45 now and I&#8217;ve never understood why we didn&#8217;t work together<br />
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<p>@broken_npc<br />
8 days ago<br />
Tucker has huge balls; cutting him off, calling him bitter, challenging him, asking for the guy they have to be released to him and let him take him back to the states and Putin considers it. Historical interview and risky.<br />
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<p>@ickn2005<br />
8 days ago<br />
I am very impressed, all around, by this interview. I am glad this happened, and that it is being shared unedited.<br />
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<p>@nicjoncon1266<br />
8 days ago<br />
Everyone should watch this<br />
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<p>@paintedhistory<br />
8 days ago<br />
The Translator did a wonderful Job.. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@hellboy9113<br />
8 days ago<br />
The translator is the real MVP. He must be under so much pressure<br />
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<p>@jenychoi6419<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from France! Thank you Tucker<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@en5788<br />
8 days ago<br />
Seems like he is being honest about how he perceives history and the current situation.<br />
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<p>@pierobuffa3549<br />
8 days ago<br />
watching from Sicily, Thank you Mr. Tucker&#8230;. just a little common sense to live peacefully<br />
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<p>@user-ni5sp6qq3p<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Croatia. Amazing interview. Very good job!<br />
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<p>@nivaleth<br />
7 days ago<br />
its crazy that this is on youtube for free<br />
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<p>@Tom-zi9xw<br />
8 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m not even that old&#8230;and I remember when it was uncontroversial for a journalist to interview an &#8220;enemy of the United States&#8221;. They were just&#8230;ya know&#8230;doing their job.<br />
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<p>@artur.dxb_ru<br />
7 days ago<br />
182 Million views<br />
on Twitter (X) <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Drunkush<br />
7 days ago<br />
what I like about this interview is that he didn&#8217;t try to humiliate the west/nato for their doings. he is willing to take a dignified approach and come to the table.<br />
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<p>@ABC-48483<br />
8 days ago<br />
This will break the internet. Wow<br />
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<p>@jamesb7437<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from England, amazing interview and real journalism, something these days that is very rare indeed.<br />
Imagine a British Prime Minister able to understand our history on such a level.<br />
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<p>@magnez2659<br />
8 days ago<br />
This interview will unite the people. Amazing job Tucker! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@rendermanpro<br />
8 days ago<br />
The &#8220;historical part&#8221; was not about the land or territory, but about people who are actually living there. And that it is a one brotherhood nation, with friends, relatives, connections, as one entety that was artificially divided. In another words that conflict is not a land claim, but about people who are living in that area.<br />
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<p>@timkoff692<br />
9 days ago<br />
In the world of lies and propaganda this interview is a GEM <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f48e.png" alt="💎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Richdaadie<br />
7 days ago<br />
Isn&#8217;t it odd how this video is not &#8220;trending&#8221; with the amount of likes on this interview<br />
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<p>@jojoeverycat7726<br />
8 days ago<br />
OMG This was a talk of the century.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@frankregg9048<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watching from Taiwan, thank you Tucker!<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@Killajmj<br />
9 days ago<br />
Why would they want people not to know this?? Don&#8217;t they want peace?<br />
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<p>6 replies</p>
<p>@jimhalpert0<br />
8 days ago<br />
If youtube promoted this as a normal viral video it&#8217;d have way more views<br />
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<p>16 replies</p>
<p>@dumbgamedeveloper2273<br />
7 days ago<br />
Now I need a 2 hour interview from a Russian reporter with Biden, and talk about what is the best flavor ice cream he ever had!<br />
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<p>@link7935<br />
7 days ago<br />
I wish there was more to this. It was such an intriguing interview to watch! I hope, in the future, another interview can be done. Both parties was respectful to each other, and that&#8217;s quite refreshing in today&#8217;s climate.<br />
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<p>@user-ne7bp1ct2l<br />
8 days ago<br />
ありがとうございます!Good job <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> from Japan<br />
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<p>@kokokiki6310<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well done Tucker. Finally some decent journalism.<br />
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<p>@cmdrindica4142<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching at 3am in the UK. This is a HUGE step forward to normality. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270c.png" alt="✌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> To Tucker and Elon.<br />
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<p>@SH3Bstanko6<br />
7 days ago<br />
probably the most crucial interview we needed to see!<br />
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<p>@gdvn007<br />
7 days ago<br />
Bạn rất dũng cảm, tôi e rằng bạn sẽ gặp rắc rối vì chuyện này. Nhưng từ Việt Nam chúng tôi vẫn rất ủng hộ bạn.<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@im9512<br />
7 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s amazing <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />I follow the video and periodically read the comments. New comments fly like in an online chat, but the views<br />
and their number almost do not increase <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I wrote a few comments and they are not <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f92f.png" alt="🤯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I&#8217;m all upset. Thanks to Ilon for X<br />
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<p>@emelya30<br />
8 days ago<br />
I give the best to translator, he&#8217;s done great job. Word to word.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@anitachisnell8412<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from UK, thank you!<br />
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<p>@vaelkocovan2848<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from London <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1e7.png" alt="🇬🇧" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> , thank you Carlson omg i was living a fake life so far <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@blackheartev5861<br />
8 days ago<br />
I think it&#8217;s time for all of the world leaders to sit down and have a serious talk about peace. This has gotten out of hand.<br />
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<p>@martinlobb3815<br />
8 days ago<br />
Very informative interview between two adults with brains<br />
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<p>@robertfair8872<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Scotland, just wish everyone could get along <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f937-200d-2642-fe0f.png" alt="🤷‍♂️" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> life is too short. If you’re reading this, have a great day/night <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fb.png" alt="🙏🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@jimmywrangles<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thanks from Australia Tucker you legend.<br />
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<p>@fazloen<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from South Africa <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ff-1f1e6.png" alt="🇿🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@slardarov<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Mars. Thank you Tucker<br />
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<p>9 replies</p>
<p>@happybeeqmdj3764<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Malaysia. Great interview!!!<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@wiggerlywoo<br />
8 days ago<br />
Amazing that Youtube hasn&#8217;t removed this yet!<br />
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<p>31 replies</p>
<p>@medicinemanboxing3222<br />
7 days ago<br />
The interpreter needs a medal and a massive raise <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Immaculate job.<br />
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<p>@mrdarenkumar<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well done Tucker. Thank you for risking your life to show real journalism.<br />
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<p>@kanister21<br />
8 days ago<br />
When they came about NordStream pipeline, why no one mentioned that US threatened Germany with sanctions if NordSteam 2 will be start operation? I&#8217;m German citizen and I think this is the biggest political scandal of the century but no one really talks about it.<br />
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<p>@markobrien2241<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hisorical Lands &#8211; Can we have Northern Ireland back please</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@yusufahmed1636<br />
9 days ago<br />
From Somalia only Thanks Tucker for doing excellent journalism!!<br />
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<p>@kspades2530<br />
10 hours ago<br />
1:44:40 Yes it is non violent. But Jesus also told His disciples to go buy swords for what? To fish? Heck no. You must understand that humans already pervert every command of God, imagine if Christians didn&#8217;t rebuke and self defend we would get taken advantage off and finished off for our obedience to God which makes us polite and loving. Jesus knew this, hence the statement about praying for those who spitefully use us in the Sermon on the Mount, same sermon he said &#8216;turn the other cheek&#8217;. If a Christian never rebukes someone they are not loving as to allow that person to use them as tool for sinning and incurring the wrath of God all the more.<br />
Luke 22:36 &#8220;“But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.&#8221; Jesus said this for self defence and most definitely a deterrent, as when Peter actually used his sword Jesus rebuked him and fixed that guy&#8217;s ear when Peter cut it off. So one must be ready to self defend but if someone pushes the line do not just stand there and let them use you a tool for their sinfulness or YOU are not loving.<br />
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<p>@skibbydweez2647<br />
1 hour ago<br />
No matter how much you want to downplay the views<br />
you can’t hide comments !!!! YouTube<br />
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<p>@MorsalDude<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Watching from sweden!! Thank you for this!!<br />
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<p>@mahmud8727<br />
9 hours ago<br />
ترجمة للغة العربية</p>
<p>@annalytvinova442<br />
32 minutes ago<br />
Give Putin a drink of water already, why he&#8217;s coughing all the time?</p>
<p>@happyerzya<br />
8 days ago<br />
I’m surprised youtube allowed independent voice to be heard<br />
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<p>@ggqbc<br />
8 days ago<br />
The ending put chills up my spine like no other interview ever has. Unbelievable<br />
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<p>@hydrasarthak246<br />
21 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@trinajones2070<br />
8 days ago<br />
Knowledge is power&#8230;.<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/262f.png" alt="☯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mufudzimachiya7952<br />
18 minutes ago<br />
17million views<br />
and not trending, what is the US doing now<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@EslamAbdo1919<br />
7 days ago<br />
it&#8217;s 4 O&#8217;clock in the morning here and i gotta go to work at 8 AM and here iam watching every second of this interview.<br />
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<p>@kspades2530<br />
10 hours ago<br />
1:21:35 Trump says this too</p>
<p>@RicondaRacing<br />
7 days ago<br />
Putin is quite the history buff, now let&#8217;s hear Biden explain that level of knowledge about the US&#8230; I&#8217;ll wait.<br />
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<p>@JuanGutierrez-ui7di<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Putin way different than trump and biden demeanor<br />
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<p>@opellouisedalsh5192<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Echelon interview&#8230;<br />
Congratz to Tucker &amp; Putin.<br />
Since then Alexei Nalavny has died and Assange&#8217;s health is ailing&#8230;Going forward, i am hopeful Tucker lands PrisonReform interviews&#8230;in memory of the SingSingPrison warden Thomas Osborne who wanted prison reform greatly went into the prison&#8217;s cell bowel &#8230; and more than paper pushing prison reform happened.</p>
<p>@user-mt2wr7fs5i<br />
7 days ago<br />
This interview will go down in history<br />
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<p>@slimeblood-<br />
22 hours ago<br />
1:32:33 when the edible finally kicks in</p>
<p>@MrRcarrera<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Why doesn&#8217;t Carlson wear a translator, does he understand Russian?</p>
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<p>@TT-js4jn<br />
8 days ago<br />
Wow. I just witnessed history big time<br />
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<p>@ziddysuzi<br />
22 hours ago (edited)<br />
Putin<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2665.png" alt="♥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@slasherflikk6073<br />
11 hours ago<br />
I could Listen to what putin says all day long&#8230;.i couldnt Listen to what a member of my government says for even 5 Minutes<br />
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<p>@hozhipx<br />
8 days ago<br />
watching from ussr , thank you tucker<br />
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<p>@dorianziedonis101<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Sorry, but putin doesnt know russia&#8217;s history. A waste of time.<br />
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<p>@juliusvern2617<br />
20 hours ago<br />
Tucker what is with some of your strange facial expressions? What is it you are seeing.</p>
<p>@pauljohn1979<br />
7 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m praying for peace.<br />
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<p>@princeadonis4516<br />
8 days ago<br />
Tucker you deserve the peace prize that comes from the people not Nobel<br />
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<p>@netflixfaiza6229<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Watching from Norway <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e7-1f1fb.png" alt="🇧🇻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> thank you for showing us the other side too<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44f.png" alt="👏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@frostbite1163<br />
1 day ago<br />
36:15 Putin said stooopidd</p>
<p>@Omnipresence10<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Phil 4:7<br />
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<p>@adamkisiel2099<br />
1 day ago<br />
Pan Putin jest moim Prezydentem kocham Pana panie Prezydydecie jak cała Pilska</p>
<p>@jojipoji2322<br />
9 days ago<br />
INCREDIBLE. NO CHANCE THIS ONLY HAS 200k+ views<br />
.<br />
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<p>@ssgstorm6509<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Texas. Thank you. Way different than I imagined<br />
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<p>@bhall1110<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Vladimir Carlson.<br />
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<p>@ayoubrafiq320<br />
1 day ago<br />
Je controle la caisse You Code by OCP Safi. Et le système dynamique entier financier et de sécurité.</p>
<p>@patrickgohi<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Côte d’Ivoire <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1ee.png" alt="🇨🇮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. Thank u Carlson<br />
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<p>@L1K30N3<br />
11 hours ago<br />
i think that&#8217;s what most ppl waited for. but has it to be on such a childish manner?<br />
putin served us with tucker this interview<br />
and now<br />
we play ping pong and send the balll back 2 USA/selenski, germany..all their &#8220;heads&#8221; and do such youtube interviews to get to &lt;3?!</p>
<p>@stevenbouldin932<br />
7 days ago<br />
Holy sh** what did I just witness. Speechless.<br />
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<p>@Danny_Martini<br />
8 days ago<br />
Best wishes from Germany&#8230;and thank you <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Kreeper-ym3rz<br />
2 hours ago (edited)<br />
So in the event United States falls apart and Texas, west coast seced from the union and in future Washington D.C wants its land back that will be wrong?</p>
<p>@HireMyTimestampTalent<br />
6 days ago<br />
00:01 Putin addresses the war in Ukraine and Russia&#8217;s historic claim.<br />
02:27 The history of the Russian state and its relationship with Ukraine.<br />
08:37 Moscow&#8217;s inclusion of old Russian lands into Moscow Kingdom in 1654<br />
11:28 Ukraine&#8217;s historical relationship with Russia and Poland<br />
17:32 Putin discusses the historical ties of Ukraine to Russia<br />
19:55 Putin discusses historical borders and Hungarian claims to land in Ukraine.<br />
24:42 Russia expected cooperation after Soviet Union&#8217;s collapse<br />
27:11 The West fears a strong China more than a strong Russia.<br />
31:37 Putin believes that the West rebuffed Russia after the Cold War<br />
33:56 US support for separatism and terrorism in the Caucasus<br />
38:42 Putin discusses development of hypersonic strike systems and NATO&#8217;s expansion to the east.<br />
40:59 Putin questions the legitimacy of Ukraine&#8217;s government and its ties to NATO<br />
45:26 Putin discusses the US involvement in the Ukrainian crisis<br />
47:58 Conflict triggered by coup in Ukraine<br />
52:43 Putin&#8217;s aim is to stop the war and prevent nazification.<br />
55:12 Putin discusses denazification in Ukraine.<br />
1:00:50 The persistence of Nazi ideology in Ukraine and efforts to combat it.<br />
1:03:16 Russia faces challenges in negotiating with Western countries due to legislative ban<br />
1:08:02 Putin firmly rejects the idea of Russian troops in Poland.<br />
1:10:46 Negotiation with Russia is smarter than fighting in Ukraine.<br />
1:15:28 Germany&#8217;s refusal to open gas from Russia impacts competitiveness and economy.<br />
1:17:43 Using the dollar as a tool of foreign policy is a strategic mistake.<br />
1:22:56 Cooperation between China and Europe is growing at a higher pace than between China and Russia<br />
1:25:25 BRICS countries have a growing share in the world economy.<br />
1:30:20 Putin discusses power centers in the United States<br />
1:32:43 Need to change approach for future challenges<br />
1:37:29 Ukraine peace talks and deception in power<br />
1:39:44 Putin emphasizes Russia&#8217;s willingness to negotiate with Ukraine.<br />
1:44:50 Putin emphasizes protection of homeland and people<br />
1:47:40 The potential of the Barbarians gradually grew, leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire.<br />
1:52:53 The exchange of spies and the definition of espionage.<br />
1:55:13 Negotiations for release of prisoners between US and Russia<br />
1:59:56 Putin calls for Ukraine to correct their mistaken decisions<br />
2:02:26 NATO and US military presence in Ukraine is creating threats for Russia.<br />
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<p>@krishnamurthy1026<br />
14 hours ago (edited)<br />
Tucker:- Why did you start the war?<br />
Putin:- In the beginning God created &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Tucker:- <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f635-200d-1f4ab.png" alt="😵‍💫" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f635-200d-1f4ab.png" alt="😵‍💫" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f635.png" alt="😵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f635.png" alt="😵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ismar0535<br />
9 hours ago<br />
The end was epic..<br />
SO WE DONE HERE OR IT IS SOMETHING ELSE<br />
LOVE PUTIN FROM LATIN AMERICA<br />
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<p>@bradspring8332<br />
8 days ago<br />
All I can say about this interview is.<br />
Thank you YouTube for allowing everyone to watch this.<br />
Beyond this I will keep my thoughts to myself.<br />
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<p>@tomslitovnieks8036<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Navanly <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@terryb0i<br />
8 days ago<br />
Damn! Putin is highly intelligent. Pretty insane the comparison of Putin to Biden.<br />
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<p>@ThoroughYoungin<br />
13 hours ago<br />
23:22 his face lmao</p>
<p>@FikiNom<br />
1 day ago<br />
He is sharp. Def abovethe bumbling bees. Thank you for this rare glimpse. Nikki Haley doesn’t even know slavery happened lol. No knowledge of history but wants to think she can lead the country and outwit this man. Lol ok.</p>
<p>@paterpaul3878<br />
7 days ago<br />
He is so right about what he says about the current german goverment.<br />
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<p>@metallist23<br />
16 hours ago<br />
He has to explain historical facts,because people from usa have no idea whats going on<br />
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<p>@badadviceforfree<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Good job Tucker glad you were born<br />
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<p>@user-ch3so3bt4m<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watching from PAPUA NEW GUINEA.<br />
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<p>@flippnbricks2o8<br />
1 day ago<br />
я из россии и люблю картошку и водку<br />
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<p>@mercin5941<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
Time codes:<br />
00:00:00 — Introduction<br />
00:02:00 — History of Russia and Ukraine<br />
00:25:04 — NATO expansion<br />
00:30:40 — NATO and Bill Clinton<br />
00:41:10 — Ukraine<br />
00:48:30 — Cause of the conflict<br />
01:02:37 — Peaceful resolution?<br />
01:11:33 — Who blew up Nord Stream?<br />
01:24:13 — Restoring ties with the USA<br />
01:36:33 — How strong is Zelensky?<br />
01:48:36 — ElonMusk and AI<br />
01:51:07 &#8211; Evan Gershkovich arrest in Russia<br />
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<p>@Alexspag97<br />
8 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ec-1f1f7.png" alt="🇬🇷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Tamer22249<br />
3 hours ago<br />
is Putin Speaks English?</p>
<p>@tyronewhite918<br />
7 days ago<br />
Extremely interesting. I don&#8217;t get why some people get mad about this. Isn&#8217;t it a good thing that world leaders talk?<br />
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<p>@ionceavasile6763<br />
3 hours ago<br />
So boring</p>
<p>@RusskiCommieBot<br />
8 days ago<br />
Amazing work Tucker. Great Job.<br />
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<p>@artanberisa7063<br />
3 hours ago<br />
call back<br />
Serbian and Bulgarian to Ukraine ther were that come from.</p>
<p>@sheila4650<br />
3 hours ago<br />
The laugh makes you look psychotic</p>
<p>@boneytony5041<br />
7 days ago<br />
Politicians not willing to negotiate are dangerous.<br />
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<p>@gerardfonz<br />
5 hours ago (edited)<br />
0:04 It seems clear that the US needs more lengthy presidential terms. So diplomacy from leadership, regardless of which party is elected, can be more established using bipartisan cooperation. Exanple: Clinton elected in 1992 gets 20 year or lifelong term but must balance his cabinet, FBI, CIA and other appointed institutions using congressional approval always controlled by a 55% limit. Meaning that all adminstrations would be much like congressional, equally minded on policies. The US then would be solid and united, stronger in positions, and more respected internationally. Russia wants that and Putin would agree. These 4 year terms with no real long term unified agenda has hurt this country.<br />
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<p>@Blyskawica1<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Navalny</p>
<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@garthodowd6846<br />
8 days ago<br />
Gday from North Queensland Australia! Awesome interview.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@trajanjankuloski6290<br />
8 days ago<br />
Bravo Trucker!Watching from New Zealand!<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@thebeginner7606<br />
40 minutes ago<br />
57:29 bandera</p>
<p>@HelloRese<br />
8 days ago<br />
Outstanding interview. Thank you , Tucker !<br />
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<p>@thefransvan5966<br />
8 days ago<br />
This NEEDS subs in as many languages as possible.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@vishalgupta7522<br />
7 days ago<br />
Best interview of this decade <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f525.png" alt="🔥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@romeorotaru1161<br />
19 hours ago<br />
And by the way&#8230;.whathappend to Navalny is normal right? Buthey he is your personal hero. And Trump too i forgot, Putin&#8217;s brother<br />
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<p>@Foutothedjo<br />
9 days ago<br />
Much love from Germany!!<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@nfallysowe8684<br />
2 hours ago<br />
The Mother Russia <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@mohahaji3534<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from kuwait <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f0-1f1fc.png" alt="🇰🇼" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> thank you tucker<br />
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<p>@myceliummobb<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Tuckers fake laugh makes me uncomfortable&#8230;</p>
<p>@CPATuttle<br />
8 days ago<br />
I like the history lesson Vladimir began the interview with<br />
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<p>@aguilarik2075<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Have an another interview with him now, after killing Navalny&#8230; oh yeah I&#8217;ve forgotten, he&#8217;ll give you no answer like he did here<br />
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<p>@user-ro9ms4hq5y<br />
6 days ago<br />
All too often people ignore history and thus fail to realize why we find ourselves where we are, it is only logical, that if you did not see the road you followed, you will not realize where you are at.<br />
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<p>@more_than_milk_ministries<br />
23 hours ago<br />
@TuckerCarlson Sir, you are a very intelligent man, capable of seeking truth no matter how you feel about it. So i challenge you, to read this and if you have time on a jog or commute, just listen to this. I can show you exactly where today is prophesied, but you have to understand this first, this is Milk.<br />
This WILL make a few things make sense.<br />
After simply reading this, without even watching the video, scripture is going to be soo clear and easy to understand!<br />
Now let&#8217;s look at what Jesus said from the beginning, because most people don&#8217;t love Jesus but they love lies told about him<br />
Here&#8217;s some definitions Christians struggle with that allows them to believe a false gospel.<br />
Gentile=a geographical boundary of a nation outside of the promised land (any place not the promised land)<br />
Heathen/uncircumsized/unclean=the citizens and residents of these other nations outside the promised land (any people not the promised people)<br />
The prophesy and promise= israel will be scattered into (gentiles) all other nations among the heathen (those residing in the gentiles nations) and one day a remnant will be brought out of these other nations in the sight of and from among these other people<br />
The good news!=<br />
Though divorced and scattered to all nations of the earth and no longer welcome to even pray to YHWH, through grace he came in the flesh to release the house of Israel from the covenant and since judahs husband died she was also released and now both are welcome to return with all their heart and all their soul and all their mind, and for the ones who not walk perfectly but repent and get back up and try will be gathered out of all nations and given a new heart incapable of sin and will be a nation of priests to the other nations, who will come up to worship the king and give sacrifices. Isaiah 56.<br />
If anyone give any other gospel,<br />
RUN AWAY!<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="The Seed of Promise!  The Truth of Grafting, Gathering The Lost Sheep and The Rapture Pt 1" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFd3BQh7_-Y?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>@mxrijx<br />
7 days ago<br />
Love from Serbians <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1faf6-1f3fb.png" alt="🫶🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1f8.png" alt="🇷🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@valentin-morosov2164<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
Thanks a lot Mr Tucker Carlson, greetings from France!<br />
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<p>@johnnyo5808<br />
8 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m glad this didn&#8217;t get taken down.<br />
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<p>10 replies</p>
<p>@Sakostudio<br />
1 day ago<br />
He could ask this intelligent man why Russian army helping Azerbaijan in a war with Armenia. Russians are alas with Armenians.Thats because Armenians don’t have oil(money) to pay him?Or that’s because he is Tatar (Mongol) and he loves Turks and Azeris.</p>
<p>@FORZAAutoblog<br />
21 hours ago<br />
We Love U mr Putin.<br />
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<p>@fabriziosimone8177<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Canada <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e6.png" alt="🇨🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ,im shocked Justin allowed this to be shown<br />
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<p>@messengertelling<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Messages to Vladimir Putin and Denys Shmyhal: Indeed, the one who initiated the war was Ukraine, not Russia, due to a slight misunderstanding. Because of their excessive arrogance, the two leaders did not relent. However, there is no point in continuing the war because neither Ukraine nor Russia are terrorist countries. Why fight each other? Your country is very unique, yet you prefer to go to war instead of solving problems together to combat terrorists.<br />
Is it because the strength of arms makes you proud to fight? There is no point in waging war merely for the sake of pride with sophisticated war weaponry because all of it can be destroyed in an instant by a great flood. If both countries were to be hit by a major flood, submerging the area beyond waist level, are you ready to bear the risk?<br />
There is no point in prolonging the war because both countries are not havens for terrorists but rather fellow human beings who are not terrorists. Cease fighting, pursue the best path to peace because if you persist in fighting, and all the people perish, what use is what remains with only one leader left? It&#8217;s akin to a street beggar. Ponder upon this. Both countries are not evil, but rather influenced by arrogance due to the deadly weapons of war.. Yes, of course, was influenced by the arrogance , also pressure from other countries.</p>
<p>@oldgaffer9212<br />
8 days ago<br />
Many have blood on their hands including Borris Johnson<br />
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<p>@user-rp1sm3re3i<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Putin<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@YVO007<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Cool and you can afford to speak respectable telling your story. Thank you do more, OK? Remember the Ukraine who suffer under russian hostilities effecting culturicide. Even such as I always bring it up practice compassion for Ukrainian families being heinously displaced as we live and breath putin murders rapes and pillages. You are such a good speaker and confidently make you ideas clear and easy to listen to. This is why I am asking you to help maintain Ukraine&#8217;s desperate needs vs the on-mass nominalizations russian propagandists are now pushing planet wide. Thank you for considering this each broadcast making even a brief statement unconditionally humane. 02/17/2024 YVO</p>
<p>@user-sc9wr7ov2y<br />
8 days ago<br />
Спасибо за интервью ,смотрела в Минске Беларусь<br />
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<p>@VladislavRussian<br />
9 hours ago<br />
This video is not trending on YouTube, are you serious?! Is this the “freedom of speech” that Western “politicians” love to talk about? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> PS: I&#8217;m laughing in your face<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ernstgr77<br />
1 day ago<br />
from where i come we know putin has several sosies, so all of this &#8220;tucker carlson&#8221; i have no idea who is the guy is clearly oriented pro russian, presenting how &#8220;putin&#8221; is friendly etc, and then they will ask &#8220;how did russia infere in trump election&#8221; lol</p>
<p>@thollyssacredbluesband6798<br />
9 days ago<br />
Watching from Reykjavík, Iceland !!!<br />
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<p>@Winterhurricanes<br />
8 minutes ago (edited)<br />
Not only Putin doesn&#8217;t know history. Great majority of trolls don&#8217;t know it either. Shame. There are so many books&#8230;! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2668.png" alt="♨" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f99e.png" alt="🦞" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fa78.png" alt="🩸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-wb7bz2wz7f<br />
1 day ago<br />
«Западные СМИ сейчас оплакивают смерть Алексея Навального, американского агента и лидера нацистских групп, которые теперь запрещены в России. Кто-нибудь помнит какое-нибудь СМИ, сообщающее о смерти гражданина США Гонсало Лиры, который умер в украинской тюрьме после пыток и отказа в медицинской помощи?<br />
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<p>@enzoookid9975<br />
8 days ago<br />
-Кто взорвал северный поток ?<br />
-Вы!<br />
-Я в тот день был занят<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f389.png" alt="🎉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@sinisa92<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Kosovo is Serbia <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1f8.png" alt="🇷🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Severeign-sf5uq<br />
6 days ago<br />
I applaud the man who translated this. I thought there would be some droppings and missing in Putin&#8217;s words.<br />
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<p>@cod64913<br />
1 day ago<br />
history is the other way around where did Russia come from ? Russia did not even exist back in the times he saying and it was kievian Russ and novgarod Russia has nothing to do with any of it. Putin said it himself “ when we came to Kyiv “ so it already existed ? Kyiv had churches , orthodox religion was adapted in the country and looking over at Russia there was nothing but frogs and some forests. And at the end of the day what is Russia now ? Moscow….. Russia is a federation , if all the countries split that live under the Russian federation split there would be nothing left but Moscow. #gloryukriane<br />
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<p>@daviddoyle4055<br />
6 days ago<br />
We all need to work together to make a better world <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f30e.png" alt="🌎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64c.png" alt="🙌" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Learn how to build global positive relations you embarass me with the way youre representing america</p>
<p>@user-te6xy7sf6o<br />
3 hours ago<br />
I know history also, Cuba was a wonderful country than came Russia communism and it was turned into sh-it .<br />
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<p>@dodgeit3014<br />
9 days ago<br />
This is crazy. Can’t believe we are seeing this.<br />
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<p>@glareff<br />
8 days ago<br />
Surprised google still hasnt censored this<br />
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<p>@pascalmbanabikedi3080<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Togo, West Africa&#8230;great JOB<br />
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<p>@Killadey<br />
1 day ago<br />
So the MSN criticise you for interviewing Putin, but now they are happy to put out content covering it. Hypocrites!<br />
Also, It was hard to find this video. I did a search and all it showed was this interview covered by the same lot that criticised you, the cheek. I had to go into your channel to access this video. So they are trying to block you out, and get the hits for themselves.</p>
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<p>@hauntsforhope<br />
6 days ago<br />
Thank you youtube for not supressing this historic interview.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Carlson you know what i hate about you is the fact that you are un educated yet you put yourself in a position that you cant bite on</p>
<p>@MrCoffis<br />
27 minutes ago (edited)<br />
Old grumpy grandpa is stuck in the past, while ruining everyone’s future.<br />
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<p>@user-hs4tq7hv1z<br />
9 days ago<br />
Respect from Canada <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e6.png" alt="🇨🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@presidentceresidence5663<br />
10 hours ago<br />
It did happen in the USA&#8230;jfk assassination&#8230;that was the biggest coup ever<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@danielzahariev8949<br />
2 hours ago (edited)<br />
Usa has been acting for the last 30 years (after Ussr ended) as a mad/wreckless/humiliating others pocker player&#8230;.and that is both very dangerous and very pathetic&#8230;.either Usa reforms quickly n becomes more positive n responsible or it is bound to fall and fall badly it shall&#8230;.acting like the evil drunk in power pocker player&#8230;<br />
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<p>@patriciaruberg3888<br />
7 days ago<br />
I didn’t learn too much more but I hope this opens the eyes of my fellow Americans<br />
Anytime I’ve attempted to have conversations about these things I get met with rage and called a liar<br />
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<p>@rockib8319<br />
14 hours ago<br />
YouTube trying its best to stop the spread of this vid&#8230;.<br />
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<p>@armorhide406<br />
1 hour ago<br />
what a clown</p>
<p>@ericklino7945<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Nairobi, Kenya<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f0-1f1ea.png" alt="🇰🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f0-1f1ea.png" alt="🇰🇪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Kathoi<br />
1 minute ago<br />
This is so fucked.</p>
<p>@Samandar509<br />
8 days ago<br />
Have been watching from Uzbekistan<br />
Thank you bro<br />
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<p>@DixieSchizo<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Tucker looks really scary in this. He is obviously handsome but imagining him staring at me from this off angle it disturbing. He look like a wax figure and it&#8217;s uncanny valley</p>
<p>@thememepitstop6974<br />
1 day ago<br />
Putin is a very very smart man<br />
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<p>@autdelux<br />
8 days ago (edited)<br />
its kinda strange to listen to a president that can formulate a coherent sentence ^^<br />
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<p>@user-js5sx8ji3k<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Зеленский 100% не пойдет на интерьвью с Такером Карсоном<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@chris1806<br />
7 hours ago<br />
This world needs Jesus Christ!</p>
<p>@MrBilbobaggins77<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from north korea , thank tiu tuker for this honest interview and even honester intervewee <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@damo728<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Let’s be clear here. The Russia Ukraine conflict has nothing to do with Russian culture/speakers in Ukraine. The same can be said of the China Taiwan conflict. By that logic, perhaps the UK should retake the United States and Canada. It’s about influence. A Ukraine that has western influence will disrupt the trade of energy throughout Europe. Without such trade, Putin understands the Russian government will continue to wither away. So Russia’s goal is to change an economic problem into a social problem and play the victim. Politics at its best. Please stop discussing the social aspects of the conflict as they are irrelevant. At the end of the day, what system will create greater good and prosperity, that of capitalism or socialism?</p>
<p>@Winda25<br />
6 days ago (edited)<br />
At 18:25 and at 42:16 there are translation mistakes. Putin says “The Soviet Ukraine was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it” (meaning was given by Soviet Union as it&#8217;s Republic), but the translator translates “The Soviet Union was given&#8230;” which is a mistake by sense.<br />
Second time translator confused presidents Victor Yuschenko (2005) with Victor Yanukovich (2010)<br />
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<p>@AluminumAdjuvantBlackPill<br />
22 hours ago<br />
YT trying to suppress this interview but failing <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@tiboromercic8096<br />
1 day ago<br />
I dont get the point. Its historical, and Kyiv citizens pushed back the Bolsheviks AND Putin. I clearly think they want independence and these are the ravings of an old man too into his history.<br />
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<p>@noah_jus_livin<br />
7 days ago<br />
Putin to US : don&#8217;t you have anything better to do <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@andrews2243<br />
1 day ago<br />
This interview is now shadow ban on you tube. That’s wrong and you tube should be ashamed of themselves<br />
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<p>@TheDillionGames<br />
5 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1fa-1f1f8.png" alt="🇺🇸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@ru.god_ove.r1hv<br />
9 days ago<br />
Это когда сидишь в душной комнате и кто-то окно открыл. Такеру и Илону &#8211; уважение.<br />
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<p>@Lord_mongool<br />
9 days ago<br />
Считаю,что это видео — повод множеству людей из разных стран обменяться тёплыми и добрыми словами<br />
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<p>@user-co5wm3cc4o<br />
18 hours ago<br />
We love Russia <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-bp4nx7im2m<br />
4 hours ago<br />
i love how putin just shit all over tucker lmfao</p>
<p>@jointosrs8480<br />
9 days ago<br />
Where is Tiffany dover? Where is Gonzalo Lira? <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f641.png" alt="🙁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> Rest in peace.. If you know you know<br />
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<p>@thebeginner7606<br />
26 minutes ago<br />
1:10:28 <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fae8.png" alt="🫨" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@alextarnauceanu807<br />
2 hours ago<br />
LoL fffddddfddddd <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />ya and orcmaster</p>
<p>@goodnoodles_<br />
7 days ago<br />
Why is there over 100m views<br />
on X but only 12 million views<br />
on youtube?<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Carlson is a tiny little baby and putin is his big daddy</p>
<p>@scope81<br />
8 days ago<br />
45,000 comments but only 670,000 views<br />
? Yeah right lol. Views were definitely removed<br />
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<p>@Gvprtskvni<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Z<br />
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<p>@miketizo6594<br />
5 hours ago<br />
This is one interview the American government and the rest of European governments don&#8217;t want people to hear.<br />
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<p>@ruhaimahamed3705<br />
7 days ago<br />
Would be great with english subtitles. Because we need to hear his voice which transfers much of emotional transmission<br />
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<p>@celticgal7460<br />
8 days ago<br />
From Scotland <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3f4-e0067-e0062-e0073-e0063-e0074-e007f.png" alt="🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> G<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f607.png" alt="😇" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />D Bless <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fd.png" alt="🙏🏽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@telmaryss<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Carlson you are terrible person! Shame on you!</p>
<p>@user-cs1cm5ph3b<br />
4 hours ago<br />
3HLNpGGpeXZ8F5Rb9sjjxbbcsobNMh2FBh хоть сколько подкинте биткоина</p>
<p>@KingdomSilverStar<br />
7 days ago (edited)<br />
Anyone see 90 million views<br />
have become 9 million views<br />
12 hours later?<br />
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<p>@zombie_gaming603<br />
1 day ago<br />
im sorry, id you say christianity says ti stay peacefull and not kill??<br />
ever heard of crusades???<br />
please learn some common sence, thank you.</p>
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<p>@Jose_santana47<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Mexico <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f2-1f1fd.png" alt="🇲🇽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> viva la press<br />
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<p>@user-ee3ml6hs2x<br />
2 hours ago<br />
Думаю что если ют перестанет удалять неугодные коментарии,картинаьна сайте резко поменяется.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-pq4mx8xr8x<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Kongo <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e9.png" alt="🇨🇩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e9.png" alt="🇨🇩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e9.png" alt="🇨🇩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@marcelo.s7423<br />
8 days ago<br />
This video reached the record for the most viewed video in the world in the first 24 hours. 152 million views<br />
in 23 hours on Twitter.<br />
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<p>@Hoshiko_Shizuku_Kun_1122<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
Russia: Taking over Ukraine cuz it was theirs in 840 AD: Gets hated by the world<br />
Israel: Taking their land back from over 3,300 years ago: Gets cheered.<br />
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<p>@SimSim-uc1vm<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Mother Russia i love you:) Putin forever:)<br />
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<p>@viceroy3297<br />
7 days ago<br />
In just one day this gets 10,000,000 views<br />
and 200,000 comments yet when I type &#8220;Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin&#8221; this isn&#8217;t the first result. Not to mention it is nowhere to be seen in trending. Some real comedians working at YouTube hahaha.<br />
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<p>@icomplain2006<br />
1 day ago<br />
Must be a real honor to interview a cold blooded murderer <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f612.png" alt="😒" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@idntjerkoffinbars<br />
7 days ago<br />
With this many views<br />
how is this not trending at number one? Shame on the Tube&#8230;<br />
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<p>@nuurdiinlakiismaciil1110<br />
5 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f8-1f1f4.png" alt="🇸🇴" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f42a.png" alt="🐪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@fuzzyfeetoffury<br />
1 hour ago<br />
&#8220;Christianity is a non violent religion&#8221; and &#8220;Christianity</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@TheMaxibit8<br />
9 days ago<br />
Правду не скрыть!!<br />
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<p>23 replies</p>
<p>@SLTTPOH<br />
7 days ago<br />
I appluad tucker, but to not understand why the history is important when trying to understand who is right and wrong in a conflict is crazy. If you take the micro of it and apply it to two people having an argument and a 3rd person watching. The 3rd person would need to know how it all started and not just look at whne they saw the argument begin, but ehat happened before. History is very inpoetant especially with other wars going on, history sheds a light on the truth. Hopefully more people are willing to dig deep for the truth. In the end we might everyone has been wrong at some point and we arr more grey than black and white<br />
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<p>@sayedalihossaini5119<br />
6 hours ago (edited)<br />
way Tucker came to Russian, he did 2 hours interview with Puten maybe i s i sends him to do this interview with Puten what is the ISI his plans <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@cristirosu2816<br />
9 hours ago (edited)<br />
Arrested for bringing flowers, tears and a photo in memoriam&#8230; How noble of the greatest leader of our times, the magnificent tsar&#8230; I know&#8230; its because of the americans, the americans&#8230;<br />
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<p>@kipling1957<br />
9 days ago<br />
I’m amazed this wasn’t blocked in Canada.<br />
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<p>@paga8392<br />
15 hours ago<br />
you can tell me what you want but after this interview im convinced that this man is not the „bad guy“<br />
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<p>@KrisNestor108<br />
7 days ago<br />
Wait, it had 30 million views<br />
as I remember? Why is it only 10 now?<br />
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<p>19 replies</p>
<p>@davidbrown4271<br />
19 hours ago<br />
Ask the people in Ukraine what they think of him<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@parkerhughes434<br />
31 seconds ago<br />
Is this the same guy who aligns with countries like Iran, Eritrea, and North Korea?<br />
This is an interesting interview for sure, even though it&#8217;s basically sponsored by the Kremlin itself, but any American who finds themselves agreeing with Putin needs to check themselves.</p>
<p>@Emma3447<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from France. Привет из Франции.<br />
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<p>@letoahleto<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Города России/cities of Russia<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="Наша Россия самая великая и дружная страна &#x2764;&#x200d;&#x1f525;&#x1f1f7;&#x1f1fa; А в каком городе вы живете)))" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/a5bS_zFnflw?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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<p>@bot-fx1gf<br />
8 days ago<br />
Thank you from Poland<br />
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<p>6 replies</p>
<p>@bahorized<br />
1 day ago<br />
poop</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@user-ov4jv1hy3s<br />
8 days ago<br />
Из казахстана..такер спасибо за это интервью<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@HfzfzizyiDrxtfzde<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Fake YouTube views<br />
count at x it above 200 million<br />
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<p>@ryosan5631<br />
7 days ago<br />
Watching from tokyo JAPAN<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1ef-1f1f5.png" alt="🇯🇵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@josefontanez3871<br />
2 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@guramigogichaishvili3903<br />
7 days ago<br />
Crazy to me that one of the most significant political interviews is dropped and people are discussing translator instead of the contents of the interview <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f926.png" alt="🤦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f926.png" alt="🤦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>11 replies<br />
@johnvillasana64<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Carlson got played.<br />
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<p>@De11eleven<br />
9 days ago<br />
Это интервью войдет в историю <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@cindyzbinden7683<br />
1 day ago<br />
There ARE US troops on the ground in Ukraine.<br />
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<p>@joaquinbear3613<br />
7 days ago<br />
Based on engagement this should be the #1 video trending on YouTube right now. What gives?<br />
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<p>@georgewright6692<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Tucker sucking up to his boss.<br />
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<p>@Laurabozovic<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Putin for president 2024<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@user-qt2sc8dc6n<br />
8 days ago<br />
Watching from Montenegro. The time has come.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@blockmanhatecommentguy6280<br />
4 hours ago (edited)<br />
&#8220;so why did you invade ukraine&#8221;<br />
putin: &#8220;on 11:59 December 31st 1999 John Arnold the 2nd went to the bathroom creating the first trans millennial shit since the year 1bc where &#8230;&#8221;<br />
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<p>@paineite<br />
8 days ago<br />
1:04:55. &#8220;Ask him yourself. It is easier for your; you are an American citizen.&#8221; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> yeah Tucker, talk to Biden. I&#8221;m SURE he&#8217;ll give you a two hour interview !! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@JokerxDragon<br />
1 day ago (edited)<br />
Traitor Carlson.<br />
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<p>@sumyungchung<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Ramblin man <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@robbarber7253<br />
8 days ago<br />
PEACE FROM CANADA <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1e6.png" alt="🇨🇦" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@DarkTimes365<br />
2 hours ago<br />
I think Putin is right. The United States will be on the wrong side of history with this one.<br />
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<p>@Summer_Sausage<br />
8 days ago<br />
Having conversations is the key to peace.<br />
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<p>@vonguyen8232<br />
22 minutes ago<br />
Love russia</p>
<p>@danieljavierangulo2973<br />
6 days ago<br />
Such an interesting conversation. I think the world needed this interview. Thank you very much. with YPK22X arriving the best is yet to come, you should know that!<br />
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<p>4 replies</p>
<p>@MrLynchyX<br />
1 day ago<br />
Вам надо было не этого плешивого расспрашивать,а людей на улице.Тогда бы вы узнали,что представляет из себя Россия.Два часа лапшу вешал вам на уши.<br />
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<p>@user-lq5vs9gv8x<br />
18 hours ago<br />
I live in Moscow, alone in an apartment. I pay $2-4 per month for electricity, $1.5 for cold water, $2-5 for hot water. That&#8217;s how bad we are here <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f601.png" alt="😁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@A447NN<br />
8 days ago<br />
Мир всему миру <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> давайте жить дружно!!!<br />
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<p>@leos3003<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Get him to go back and get an interview about killing Navalny.<br />
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<p>@knightpertinax7049<br />
15 hours ago<br />
Yesterday I saw this video at 140 million views<br />
, and I also saw online that the video reached over 150 million views<br />
within 24 hours.<br />
Youtube is really tryna suppress this<br />
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<p>@salto_pro<br />
7 days ago<br />
Twitter 176,5 millions views</p>
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<p>@alienbox440<br />
1 day ago<br />
New trailer Deadpool has more views<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />!</p>
<p>@Novvax312<br />
5 days ago<br />
1:11:55 you may have an alibi but the CIA doesnt was fucking hilarious<br />
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<p>@Digigraphie<br />
17 hours ago<br />
who was killed in Russia under Putin:<br />
Galina Starovoitova<br />
Artem Borovik<br />
Victor Popkov<br />
Sergey Yushenkov<br />
Yuri Shchekochikhin<br />
Nikolai Girenko<br />
Zelimkhan Yandarbiev<br />
Aslan Maskhadov<br />
Anna Politkovskaya<br />
Alexander Litvinenko<br />
Magomed Yevloev<br />
Yuriy Chervochkin<br />
Larisa Yudina<br />
Ivan Safronov<br />
Ilya Borodaenko<br />
Igor Domnikov<br />
Stanislav Markelov<br />
Anastasia Baburova<br />
Vyacheslav Yaroshenko<br />
Natalya Estemirova<br />
Maksharip Aushev<br />
Anton Stradymov<br />
Andrei Kulagin<br />
Zarema Saidullaeva<br />
Alik Jabrailov<br />
Ilya Japaridze<br />
Ivan Khutorskoy<br />
Sergey Magnitsky<br />
Olga Kotovskaya<br />
Farid Babaev<br />
Rim Shaygalimov<br />
Telman Alishaev<br />
Akhmed Moskov<br />
Sergey Ivanov<br />
Magomed-Zagid Varisov<br />
Valery Ivanov<br />
Vagif Kochetkov<br />
Pavel Makeev<br />
Maksim Maksimov<br />
Eduard Markevich<br />
Alexey Sidorov<br />
Natalya Skril<br />
Leonid Shevchenko<br />
Vitaly Sahn-Wald<br />
Sergey Kalinovsky<br />
Valery Batuev<br />
Elina Voronova<br />
Leonid Grigoriev<br />
Oleg Goryansky<br />
Sergey Loginov<br />
Iskander Khatloni<br />
Supyan Ependiev<br />
Ramzan Mezhidov<br />
Alexander Babaykin<br />
Sergey Novikov<br />
Olga Alexandrina<br />
Vera Sidelnikova<br />
Olesya Ivanova<br />
Vasyl Aleksanyan<br />
Vratislav Gavranek<br />
Ludek Petrszyk<br />
Boris Nemtsov<br />
Denis Voronenkov<br />
Mykola Andryushchenko<br />
Orhan Cemal<br />
Alexander Rastorguev<br />
Kirill Radchenko<br />
Peter Ofitserov<br />
Don Sturgess<br />
Alexei Navalny<br />
Lev Rokhlin<br />
Anatoly Sobchak<br />
Svyatoslav Fedorov<br />
Amir ibn al-Khattab<br />
Alexander Lebed<br />
Salman Raduev<br />
Lechi Islamov<br />
Khizri Aldanov<br />
Roman Tsepov<br />
Mykola Aksenenko<br />
Gennady Troshev<br />
Alexander Perepelichyny<br />
Yuri Shutov<br />
Nikita Kamaev<br />
Vyacheslav Sinev<br />
Zelimkhan Khangoshvili<br />
Yevgeny Prigogine<br />
Dmitry Utkin<br />
p.s. S. Tretyakov recalled how Alexander Lunkin, deputy head of the FSO, told him that Zolotov and Murov had prepared a list of people whom they were going to eliminate in order to clear Putin&#8217;s rise to power. When they finished the preparation list, Zolotov remarked: &#8220;It turns out to be too much killing &#8211; even for us.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@user-js5sx8ji3k<br />
9 days ago<br />
Люди соскучились по правде<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@profmedgroup<br />
14 hours ago<br />
List of US invasions in the last 100 years around the world:<br />
1914-1918 &#8211; series of invasions of Mexico.<br />
1914-1934 &#8211; Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America sends in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.<br />
1916-1924 &#8211; 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.<br />
1917-1933 &#8211; military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.<br />
1917-1918 &#8211; participation in the 1st World War.<br />
1918-1922 &#8211; intervention in Russia. A total of 14 states took part in it.<br />
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia &#8211; Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.<br />
1918-1920 &#8211; Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the unrest.<br />
1919 &#8211; COSTA RICA. &#8230; Landing of US troops to &#8220;protect American interests.&#8221;<br />
1919 &#8211; American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dolmatia.<br />
1919 &#8211; American troops enter Honduras during elections.<br />
1920 &#8211; Guatemala. 2-week intervention.<br />
1921 &#8211; American support for the militants who fought to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.<br />
1922 &#8211; intervention in Turkey.<br />
1922-1927 &#8211; American troops in China during the popular uprising.<br />
1924-1925 &#8211; Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.<br />
1925 &#8211; Panama. American troops break up a general strike.<br />
1926 &#8211; Nicaragua. Invasion.<br />
1927-1934 &#8211; all over China American troops stationed.<br />
1932 &#8211; invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising there at that time.<br />
1937 &#8211; Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, displacing the legitimate government of J. Sacasa.<br />
1939 &#8211; deployment of troops to China.<br />
1947-1949 &#8211; Greece. American troops participate in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.<br />
1948-1953 &#8211; military operations in the Philippines.<br />
1950 &#8211; An uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.<br />
1950-1953 &#8211; armed intervention in Korea by about a million American soldiers.<br />
1958 &#8211; Lebanon. Occupation of the country, fight against the rebels.<br />
1958 &#8211; confrontation with Panama.<br />
1959 &#8211; America sends troops into Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.<br />
1959 &#8211; Haiti. Suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.<br />
1960 &#8211; After Jose Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.<br />
1960 &#8211; American troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.<br />
1965-1973 &#8211; military aggression against Vietnam.<br />
1966 &#8211; Guatemala. &#8230;US troops entered the country, and massacres of Indians, who were considered potential rebels, were carried out.<br />
1966 &#8211; military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. … (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons; the government officially employed 88 torture specialists).<br />
1971-1973 &#8211; bombing of Laos.<br />
1972 &#8211; Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support a government beneficial to Washington.<br />
1983 &#8211; military intervention in Grenada with about 2 thousand marines.<br />
1986 &#8211; attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.<br />
1988 &#8211; American invasion of Honduras<br />
1988 &#8211; The USS Vincennes, stationed in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children, with a missile.<br />
1989 &#8211; American troops suppress unrest in the Virgin Islands.<br />
1991 &#8211; large-scale military action against Iraq<br />
1992-1994 &#8211; occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.<br />
1998 &#8211; Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with a missile attack, claiming that it produces nerve gas.<br />
1999 &#8211; Ignoring international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, NATO forces launched a 78-day campaign of aerial bombing of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia by the United States.<br />
2001 &#8211; invasion of Afghanistan.<br />
2003 &#8211; bombing of Iraq.<br />
2011 &#8211; Libya.<br />
2013 &#8211; mercenaries on the territory of Ukraine<br />
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<p>@user-qc5cs9jc2k<br />
7 days ago<br />
I went to look again, and saw that my like had changed to dislike. What does YouTube mean?<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@ramongalindo9970<br />
1 day ago<br />
у меня есть документы всех стран и альшивых и коррумпированных заговорщиков иравительств , законов, США Евросоюеа,Англии Мексики ялонии Германии Аравии и всех тех кто хочет расчленить Россию и СССР <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f30f.png" alt="🌏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f30e.png" alt="🌎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f310.png" alt="🌐" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f30d.png" alt="🌍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f448.png" alt="👈" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f442-1f3fb.png" alt="👂🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f441.png" alt="👁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f441.png" alt="👁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f442-1f3fb.png" alt="👂🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@Mr.Redacto<br />
7 days ago<br />
I like to see Tucker talk with Xi Jinping next. Do you agree?<br />
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<p>6 replies</p>
<p>@lanesmith148<br />
42 seconds ago<br />
Instead of trying to fight, learn to work together.</p>
<p>@AmbassadorOfLogic<br />
2 hours ago<br />
clowns <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@FotografNikita<br />
7 days ago<br />
You have to translate it in all languages (German, France, Spain&#8230;) and also upload it.<br />
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<p>@macnico9987<br />
8 days ago<br />
Upon searching YouTube: &#8220;Tucker Carlson Vladimir Putin&#8221;; This interview is the 30th video listed.<br />
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<p>15 replies</p>
<p>@IdeaDima<br />
1 day ago<br />
Why watch this??? Two liars talk about lies!<br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Alexey Navalny <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f494.png" alt="💔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f494.png" alt="💔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f494.png" alt="💔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f494.png" alt="💔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. A life cut short because of maniac Putin. Alexey, forever in the hearts of free people<br />
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<p>@AlexandreGordien<br />
7 days ago<br />
Il y a de très bonnes personnes aux États-Unis et en Russie qui ne veulent pas que ce type de conflits dégénère en conflit mondial ou nucléaire, mais il y en a partout ailleurs dans le monde qui souhaitent le contraire et travaillent pour que cela arrive quand même. Le danger pour tout le monde, ce n&#8217;est pas un Pays en particulier, mais justement ces gens là, ils n&#8217;ont ni patrie, ni valeurs humaines et sont les ennemis de l&#8217;humanité, du bien et de Dieu. Que Dieu continue de bénir cette planète…<br />
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<p>@mohamedgoldstein5565<br />
4 hours ago<br />
Hi Tucker, Did Navalny choke on some caviar or fall down a flight of stairs?</p>
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<p>@vijeybarethvijayan4128<br />
6 days ago (edited)<br />
Nice, but I don&#8217;t understand how the establishment allowed the interview upload on Youtube ?. On Youtube views<br />
12M but on X cross 185M<br />
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<p>@iscotwori6905<br />
7 hours ago<br />
A few days after such a big interview Navalny dies how does it feel to be used Tucker<br />
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<p>@mdach619<br />
9 hours ago<br />
2 hours of Putin laughing at tucks <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f611.png" alt="😑" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@masaacc-cr9uo<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Wonder what it feels to talk with warcriminal like that ?<br />
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<p>@hdsd9003<br />
16 hours ago<br />
[*]Алексей Анатольевич Навальный[*]</p>
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<p>@samuelcurtis4805<br />
16 hours ago<br />
such a weak interview. Carlson bottled asking big questions and sat there and got lectured on Russian history. Carlson got owned here. Terrible journalism<br />
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<p>@madeinart13<br />
10 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@theartman16<br />
22 hours ago<br />
This is basically how the interview went:<br />
Tucker Carlson: What does this have to do with the 2022 invasion of Ukraine?<br />
Vladimir Putin: So anyway, &#8220;procides to go 30 min strait about Russian History&#8221;&#8230;<br />
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<p>@stephen-gi9uz<br />
1 day ago<br />
This didn&#8217;t age well</p>
<p>@Crakinator<br />
13 hours ago<br />
Crazy how YouTube is trying to hide this <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@Asheau<br />
12 hours ago<br />
What an absolute wimp.<br />
Having to endure someone coming on his face with humiliation after humiliation, all with a look of servility in his eyes<br />
And to a man who wears bigger heels than Desantis</p>
<p>@tomlambert4369<br />
4 hours ago<br />
no offense Tucker,Y R U confused?</p>
<p>@simonforfan<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Please let this be deep faked</p>
<p>@nahitspopcoin74<br />
4 hours ago<br />
putin is so real for that. bro was speaking fax ongod cuh no cap<br />
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<p>@d.owczarzak6888<br />
1 day ago<br />
2/16/24 I see another one of Putin&#8217;s political opponents died in prison. What do you think of that Tucker ????????????<br />
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<p>@dziolanaantuzyte877<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Even after the interview. Americans still manage to twist all around with their lies …<br />
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<p>@solarischronos784<br />
10 hours ago (edited)<br />
Putin is actually a well-educated, well spoken man, I could see why he is so popular amongst the Russian population. and Tucker suddenly became so defensive and loud when Putin said that NATO the western bloc blatantly said NO to Russia&#8217; attempt to join NATO.<br />
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<p>@mel7445<br />
1 day ago<br />
Meanwhile Alexei Navalny is being poisoned <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> I&#8217;m glad you have the privilege to cozy up to the Kremlin without having to look behind your back when you return home.</p>
<p>@neomanrex<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Why does Tucker Carlson hate free speech?</p>
<p>@Maximka45<br />
14 hours ago<br />
My favorite president! The best president in the world!<br />
Glory to Putin, glory to one of the smartest and greatest politicians!<br />
Слава России!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f970.png" alt="🥰" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1fae1.png" alt="🫡" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4aa-1f3fb.png" alt="💪🏻" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@victoriasavage6515<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Putin&#8217;s narrative of Ukraine&#8217;s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow&#8217;s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus&#8217;, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II&#8217;s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine&#8217;s occupation by Russia in 1783.<br />
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin&#8217;s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.</p>
<p>@victoriasavage6515<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Putin&#8217;s narrative of Ukraine&#8217;s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow&#8217;s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus&#8217;, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II&#8217;s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine&#8217;s occupation by Russia in 1783.<br />
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin&#8217;s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.</p>
<p>@irminakoza5185<br />
4 hours ago (edited)<br />
Hmmmm well, the translator received some excellent feedback, and I’ll add to that feedback, as for the interview… Putin surely loved giving his own run down of history, those of us that are from those parts of the world know full well how “history” is more of an idea rather than facts … I truly feel embarrassed for Tucker, he was blatantly used by Putin, Tucker is a great speaker but this was way beyond his capabilities as an interviewer</p>
<p>@truthbot8907<br />
14 hours ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> NAVALNY!! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f1f7-1f1fa.png" alt="🇷🇺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@shaung8182<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Listening to this it just sounds like he looking after Russians in Ukraine and need the all years round ice free base to the sea?. He dont look like a crazy man to me? Our leaders need to go back to diplomacy Not WAR. And Russia dont come any further than they have!</p>
<p>@KIDLEVIOFFICIAL<br />
17 hours ago<br />
An eloquent psychopath is still a psychopath. It&#8217;s very clear that many people in the comments have heard him speak for the first time. His version of history is, as Tucker said in the beginning, his version and it does not mean that it is right. We have heard him say the same things in countless press conferences and interviews before, this is nothing new. I&#8217;d invite everyone to do their own research and come to their own conclusions.<br />
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<p>@RosyPinky100<br />
14 hours ago<br />
It is frightening how disrespectfully Putin in interviews does not answer the questions clearly and only talks arround the bush. The interviewer does not handle the situation well.<br />
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<p>@victoriasavage6515<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Putin&#8217;s narrative of Ukraine&#8217;s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow&#8217;s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus&#8217;, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II&#8217;s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine&#8217;s occupation by Russia in 1783.<br />
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin&#8217;s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.</p>
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<p>@theetrue4083<br />
9 hours ago<br />
&#8211;a whitewash of an autocrat;<br />
trust and serve god to life eternal.</p>
<p>@sofjasmirnova7666<br />
12 hours ago<br />
This interview will be Putin&#8217;s version of Boris Yeltsin getting drunk and banging spoons over Askar Akayev&#8217;s head. In a word&#8230; embarrassing.</p>
<p>@andersonsantucci9325<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Mr Carlson needs interview another crazies &#8220;leaders&#8221;like Belarus president, Turkmenistan president etc,the world have a lot of questions to make to this people haha<br />
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<p>@laetitiazichy-vanlidth5882<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Stupid cupid<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@friedrichhoffmann4248<br />
23 hours ago<br />
The whole world is laughing at this “interview”. Thanks for the entertainment!<br />
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<p>@d4rd1v79<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Only 17m, what a poor interview.<br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Navalny <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@salvadorseekatzrisquez2947<br />
1 day ago<br />
Hi Tucker! Definitively a good job in your career and I wish you the best as to any other people. However, I found the first 90 to 100 minutes completely boring and Putin just got his way and put forward his vision full of lies.<br />
I feel at the end you made up for it<br />
I really like when you mentioned about the journalist or spy whatever, I think that was a good intention.<br />
I also liked the question about the supernatural at work, which he denied.<br />
I find interesting that a totalitarian (probably dictator is more accurate) calls himself a Christian in any way. so points for that one too.<br />
I am sure to actually have a conversation with that guy must have been very difficult<br />
I think he is a brutal killer and terrible person, probably 60% as bad a Stalin, Castro, or Lenin.<br />
It would have been impossible for me to keep my calm. also you know you could have had a situation like The Univision anchor Jorge Ramos and his five-person crew have been deported from Venezuela after they were detained in the presidential palace in Caracas during an interview with the embattled president, Nicolás Maduro. Feb 25, 2019<br />
so that was a very much likely outcome had you had a little more backbone.<br />
Maduro is more of a child than Putin and has real power so little dogs are more fierce than a bear. But anyhow, their methods are similar.<br />
Best Wishes, I am giving you a like on the video! I think you did very well. Not easy to do anything good with Putin.<br />
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<p>@igoradamovich505<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Youre too young too not educated</p>
<p>@sinankurt7109<br />
6 hours ago<br />
both of them, their skin, look &#8220;older&#8221; on old photos. what the heck happened to their faces? botox? extreme make-up? surgery? &#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f62e.png" alt="😮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f622.png" alt="😢" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@MarieSinco<br />
16 hours ago<br />
Wow,Tucker was completely unprepared for this interview and let Putin dictate the narrative. Why would anyone trust Carlson&#8217;s perspective after this point? How many times do I need to look at his confused face to know he&#8217;s a media artist and not capable of true dialogue. I&#8217;d like to see Putin interview with Breaking Points. That would be an excellent dialogue. Won&#8217;t happen, because he can find a voice through idiots like Tucker.<br />
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<p>@nsmnsm8889<br />
9 hours ago<br />
Mr Tucker had No Time to Listen to the news , specially to what USA President Biden Said about North Steam Pipe line. You are very funny and stupid with your tuff look questions.</p>
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<p>@JohnSmith-tm6fe<br />
1 day ago<br />
I gave up after 30 minutes. Putin can write a book on the topic &#8220;how to talk a lot without saying anything&#8221;. If you&#8217;re considering watching this, this is a summary of the first 30 minutes: Tucker asks a question, Putin starts to talk about the history of Russia and the Ukraine from the beginning of time, Tucker asks another question, Putin ignores that and goes on describing his interpretation of events in the history of Russia and Ukraine, Tucker tries again to change the subject and tells Putin that he understands that Putin wants to show that the Ukraine is a part of Russia and asks Putin why he invaded Ukraine only now and not 20 years ago, Putin ignores his question and goes on describing the history of Russia and Ukraine (according to his point of view), Tucker asks the same question again, and Putin ignores this question again, and goes on explaining why Ukraine is a part of Russia. I&#8217;ve just wasted 30 minutes of my life.<br />
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<p>@AkademiKorolev<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
Glory to Navalny! Shame on you, Putin&#8217;s henchman<br />
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<p>@freedom1980s<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Let&#8217;s not forget, Ukraine is run by a comedian/ wannabe actor.<br />
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<p>@doorsmundo9063<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Desperation.</p>
<p>@annaskalka2320<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
As a Polish person I must say that my blood was boiling during Putin&#8217;s version of history lesson. Then he goes on to say that he is not interested in invading Poland. It is obvious that Putin is making fun of Tucker. On the other hand, as much as I dislike Tucker you can&#8217;t piss off Putin too much in his own country if you want to live.<br />
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<p>@edsko5152<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Tucker, how are you feeling after Alexey Navalny was murdered by Putin in prison? Do you still think that question is inappropriate for a dictator?<br />
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<p>@user-gg5mk6mx8g<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Shame on you Tucker!<br />
Traktor!<br />
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<p>@ozangoral9275<br />
8 hours ago (edited)<br />
If Vladi likes history, Someone should remind him, that largest country of the world is actually very mediocre country originally as they are just a country of eastern europe and sits on the huge Turkic lands on the asian side, probably over %70 of Russian lands today is actually turkic lands. They must be making plans to return that %70 back too with this analogy.<br />
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<p>@glenngeerinck771<br />
4 hours ago<br />
tucker carlson ony cares what people think of him<br />
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<p>@alonzoguerra1534<br />
12 hours ago<br />
What a Borring interview&#8230; Putin had nothing to say but history and anwsers like I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOW .. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> his words are like a man saying his religion are the true..</p>
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<p>@victoriasavage6515<br />
12 hours ago<br />
Putin&#8217;s narrative of Ukraine&#8217;s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow&#8217;s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus&#8217;, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II&#8217;s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine&#8217;s occupation by Russia in 1783.<br />
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin&#8217;s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.<br />
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<p>@paullehenaff3059<br />
5 hours ago<br />
He always has that look on his face, like he&#8217;s listening, but not really following whats going on<br />
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<p>@luizhenriquesuppi298<br />
11 hours ago<br />
Terrible interview. Putin didn&#8217;t say anything.<br />
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<p>@A2theK734<br />
5 hours ago<br />
TRAITOR</p>
<p>@AtomicShadow64<br />
1 day ago<br />
We need Biden to go. Trump would get this fixed in 2 days.</p>
<p>@SimSim-uc1vm<br />
1 hour ago<br />
Putin Forever:) only only president Mother Russia i love you so much:) RUSSIA i love you:)<br />
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<p>@KimiSiefen<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Putin was convincing until 54:53 , then he claimed he pulled troops away from Kiev. Troops never even made it to Kiev because of there failed invasion. If he makes claims like this, it is hard to believe anything else, as they can also be lies. Otherwise interesting conversation to listen to.<br />
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<p>@timbelcijan9858<br />
8 hours ago<br />
Damn, lots of bots and right wing sheep, love to see it. This was very &#8216;objective&#8217; for sure.<br />
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<p>@kpkpm3604<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Putin starts to explain Russia and Ukraine by going back to Adam and Eve, well, not quite, but all the way back to year 862. And Carlson sits there and listens for 8 minutes and &#8220;loses track&#8221;. He looks like a little boy, not like an interviewer of any meaningful news outlet.</p>
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<p>@mattclarke1838<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Quite possibly the worst and most boring interview ever<br />
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@Nationofvictory2023<br />
11 hours ago<br />
#putinkiller<br />
#Navalnymurderer</p>
<p>@RapturianCitizen<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Now that we&#8217;re on this topic. Greenland and Alaska should be part of Canada. Screw Iceland, Denmark and America/Russia.</p>
<p>@gabriellafoszto5446<br />
21 hours ago<br />
For everyone reading this, please watch the 2 parts of &#8220;AGENTS OF CHAOS&#8221;, then &#8220;NAVALNY&#8221;. Both on Prime or HBO.<br />
Then let me know if you will ever let yourselves fooled by Putin or Tucker.<br />
One is the Devil, the other one his messenger.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@alessandro7123<br />
1 day ago<br />
Arriba Russia !</p>
<p>@Mehowqoo<br />
18 hours ago<br />
This interview is a proof that Putin didn’t invade Ukraine because he was scared of NATO. It was simply because of his imperial ambition to conquer this country. That’s why he takes us on a crazy journey through one thousand years of the Eastern Europe’s history <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />. He wants to say, look it was always ours, so we just take what belongs to us. In fact, his version of history is very manipulated, but unfortunately Tucker wasn’t able to pick it up.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@tarasiewicz83<br />
16 hours ago<br />
DEMONITIZE AUTHORITARIAN COVERAGE. He is not a reporter, he sympathizes with DICTATORS<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@Liszukov<br />
17 hours ago<br />
Murderer<br />
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<p>@mayor9745<br />
7 hours ago<br />
В. В. Путин лидер номер 1 в мире!<br />
Горжусь, Уважаю своим президентом<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4aa.png" alt="💪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@user-uz4qn6nt7b<br />
21 hours ago<br />
Alexey Navalny, you will never be forgotten! You did not die in vain. Russia will be free<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@paullehenaff3059<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Just propagranda<br />
3</p>
<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@hareth3911<br />
10 hours ago<br />
Putin wants the soviet union back <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@johnericson5168<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Tucker Carlson, please interview his opponent &#8211; Aleksey Navalny.<br />
Ops…</p>
<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@riccardocoratella5237<br />
6 hours ago<br />
I LOVE PUTIN !!!!!!!!!!<br />
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<p>@Johanna-fd2je<br />
7 hours ago<br />
I lastet exactly three and a half minutes.</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@rickwhite3757<br />
6 hours ago<br />
What a useless interviewer Carlson is, stick to entertainment……..lol<br />
3</p>
<p>@masaacc-cr9uo<br />
22 hours ago<br />
Putin has serious mental issues<br />
5</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@CodeCharmer<br />
20 hours ago<br />
In hind sight, Tucker was PLAYED and Putin timed this perfectly; allowing the interview now (after three years of requests) and the Navalny assassination, etc.,, DONT blame Tucker too bad for not asking tougher questions &#8212; afterall, Tucker and his team still had to leave Russia after the interview!<br />
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<p>@Idontknowmyrealdad<br />
22 hours ago<br />
2,317 Russian soldiers died right now! While Putin is looking like a bad bitch, telling bad jokes, about bad times for innocent people.<br />
1</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@user-yz4ns4kl9f<br />
1 day ago<br />
You don&#8217;t know the real history. He is lying! Stop supporting him! Thus you support all the evil he does&#8230;<br />
1</p>
<p>@gavriloprincipp<br />
1 day ago<br />
Kosovo is Serbia.</p>
<p>@bfox3549<br />
4 hours ago (edited)<br />
bs, why give a killer such a free time to air his bull… pleeease<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@RozarioAgro-wq7sy<br />
14 hours ago<br />
Tucker, if in America a person earns $3,000, then in Russia $500, why don’t you compare salaries? Putin is only interested in foreign policy, and ordinary people live in poverty.<br />
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<p>@michaelkristensen7972<br />
7 hours ago<br />
Tucker must have been paid for this uncritical interview<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@22ergie<br />
5 hours ago<br />
&#8220;Poland collaborated with Hitler&#8221;&#8230;this guy is DELUSIONAL.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@spirit3250<br />
5 hours ago<br />
Putin is goat<br />
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<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@user-wv4nu9tj1r<br />
23 hours ago<br />
Навальному он обосрался давать интервью.<br />
Вечная память героям!</p>
<p>@MarleyTinuviel<br />
3 hours ago<br />
Proves Tucker is not a journalist <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f602.png" alt="😂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>@Antt007<br />
21 hours ago<br />
I’m waiting for the Satan interview next <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f608.png" alt="😈" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<p>@cfpl2375<br />
22 hours ago<br />
The blood on your hands doesn’t come out with soap and water Tucker.<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@Denzamusic<br />
7 hours ago (edited)<br />
Well this interview was on of the worst shit i have seen. I am embarrassed. Lol. He got totaly dominated by putin. He did not give a fuck about questions and rambled about fake history claims. We can go way back to claim that ukraine is nordic soil. But putin, got what he wanted. He dominated tucker to a sub.<br />
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<p>@___123n<br />
21 hours ago (edited)<br />
Imagine if you were another country, listening to a country (USA) that grew its wealth, from taking another ones land such as: Native Americans, Africans, Spanish,etc <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f605.png" alt="😅" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />and having an interview with a country ( Russia), in the process of taking another countries land (Ukraine).. wouldn’t that be saddening ..smh ? There has to be a hidden message here.</p>
<p>@paulineyi8462<br />
9 hours ago (edited)<br />
There is no doubt, that you got an insane amount of money for that sad parody on journalism, Tucker! Money dont smell we say in Russia! Look how much freedom we enjoy: you get detained for laying flowers on the monument, and if Putin kills someone , you can&#8217;t even grieve! Shame on you!<br />
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<p>@pedrosostrereyes4306<br />
6 hours ago<br />
Russian propaganda!<br />
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<p>2 replies</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [David Frost (in 1967) aggressively interviews Sir Oswald Mosley on his political life, his Black Shirts movement, the 1930s, Hitler and WWII, the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;, the Orgjew push for another world war, anti-semitism, etc., all the while being heckled by &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2023/01/23/david-frost-interview-with-oswald-mosley-nov-15-1967-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[David Frost (in 1967) aggressively interviews Sir Oswald Mosley on his political life, his Black Shirts movement, the 1930s, Hitler and WWII, the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;, the Orgjew push for another world war, anti-semitism, etc., all the while being heckled by some jews in the audience!</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">David Frost</span><br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Interviews Sir Oswald Mosley</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #000000;">Nov 15, 1967</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: center;">The Frost Programme: Interview with Oswald Mosley on 15 November 1967</p>
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<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Thank you. Thank you and good evening. Tonight our subject is Sir Oswald Mosley, whom many of you will remember. Sir Oswald.</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33558" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846-1024x736.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="460" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846-1024x736.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846-600x431.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846-768x552.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846-1536x1103.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2846.jpg 1882w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
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<p>I think that there are two pictures of you. One is of the brilliant economist, the possible future Prime Minister, man of wit and charm, who’s able to look ahead economically a good deal better than many of his political colleagues. All of that I could not take away from you, if I wished. And I do not wish.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33559" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847-1024x732.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="458" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847-1024x732.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847-600x429.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847-768x549.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847-1536x1098.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2847.jpg 1874w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The second is a confused picture of Mosley, the East End riots, fascism, anti-semitism. And all of that I want to talk to you about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But first I want to begin on the economic front. What was your diagnosis of Britain’s economic ills, position, solution, briefly in 1930?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33560" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848-1024x729.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="456" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848-1024x729.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848-600x427.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848-768x547.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848-1536x1093.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2848.jpg 1888w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, I think it’s good to begin there. Because really that is the origin of the whole trouble, or the whole business. And I’m afraid it’s now recurring. It is coming back, really.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span id="more-33542"></span></p>
<p>The question was whether in the 30s traditional normal methods could deal with the unemployment problem or not. I was then a Minister in the government charged with dealing with unemployment. I produced a policy within that labour government, the Keynesian background, all his modern monetary theories, but a concrete, definite policy for dealing with unemployment. That is, to put to work about 7000 or 800,000 people at once.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And beyond that, there were plans for reconstructing the country and bringing us into a Commonwealth system which would permanently eliminate unemployment, and enable a balanced economy with a high purchasing power for all the people of the Commonwealth to be creating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Now, we all know about 1930, and at that time everyone indeed spoke when you made this diagnosis of your brilliant future and so on. You said in that what you were just saying, that it seems similar to you that things are coming back now. Why do you say, specifically, that the situation now is similar to then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33561" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849-1024x718.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="449" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849-1024x718.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849-600x421.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849-768x539.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849-1536x1077.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2849.jpg 1882w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes, I think so, and I’ll tell you exactly why. The basic trouble then quite different to the present situation was an overproduction in relation to the given market. That is, the purchasing part of the Western world was not sufficient to absorb the goods which industry were producing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at that time, as much in America, the technocrats as they were then called, who are highly paid engineers of American industry, were showing that the productive potential of America was so enormous that existing measures could not possibly absorb it. And as a result was unemployment, enormous unemployment there, and also here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Temporarily, that was solved by the doubling of the gold price by Roosevelt, but very temporarily, because that was wearing off after three or four years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, that’s not the only problem, that’s the general problem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The particular problem was the inability of Britain in this top heavy island to sell nearly a third of its total production on the markets of the world in open competition. Originally, we had a monopoly position on the markets of the world. That was passing away and we were subject to intensive competition and failing to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, these factors have been masked in the post war world, first of all by the armament boom before the war, then by the war itself, then by two small wars, Korea, and this new war in Vietnam, which of course absorbed an enormous proportion of world and American production in particular. And that has masked and concealed the situation completely. There’s been a world boom.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And what are the political parallels now then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> The parallel is on that situation of developing crisis. It’s only just beginning, so you’re only just beginning to feel the effects of that, it having been masked so long. But in that developing crisis, the government of the day does precisely what it did before that is coming in on a socialist or advanced program. It takes over at once the position of its opponents and applies conservative policies, even more conservative than the policies of the Conservative Party. And fails to meet the situation, holding the pound with deflation and all the old traditional measures and failing to meet it. That is why the situation now is exactly the same.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then you get the call for devaluation and the rest of it, which may of course, occur at any time, not because they want it. The old lady never walks downstairs, she always falls downstairs!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And when this crisis last emerged, you wanted a change of a form of government in this country to cope with it. What do you think is the ideal form of government for Britain today?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, the first thing, if you want to do anything in the world, is to create a machinery to do it. I advocated in my resignation speech from the government, a machine of the civil servants, and businessmen, and others in Downing Street, which created in the modern term, a real powerhouse. They are now talking about doing something of the sort. But 30 years later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Daily Mirror wrote the other day, the powerhouse in Downing Street is one civil servant, one university Professor, and Colonel Wigg. Now they’ve lost Colonel Wigg. Back at square one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> A frightful blow. But do you want to change the system today? Or do you think democracy is right for Britain today?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That is the much larger question. I am absolutely convinced, for reasons I can give in detail if necessary, that Parliamentary control must be maintained, that is, that Parliament must be able, by vote of censure, to dismiss any government. Otherwise you may have people going mad and doing incredible things. We’ve had more than one example of that in recent years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Therefore I am more than ever convinced it’s right to keep Parliamentary control. And when I gave evidence before the Parliamentary committee, soon after I resigned, I did insist then on Parliamentary control, subject to a right of government to act, so long as it retains the confidence of Parliament.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Have you voted in a general election since 1930?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I stood in a general election, yes. I stood in the last general election.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Yes. But have you voted?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No! I shouldn’t vote for either party.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Because back in 1931, when you formed the new party.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> You had a great many influential supporters and so on. An impressive list at that stage. If you had, by some quirk, been asked to form a government in 1931, who would have been your principal ministers?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, at that time, before I resigned from the government and immediately after, practically every young man that is, man under 50, young in Parliamentary terms, agreed with me. When I resigned from the government, made this speech, Conservative, Labour, Liberal, I can give names if necessary, but they’re well known. All agreed with me. But the for two reasons we could not get the consensus of the nation at that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But who would have been your most important aides if you had formed a government in 1931?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> If I had formed a government in 1931 of young men on the Conservative side, far and away the ablest, I thought at that time was Oliver Stanley. Well, you hear very many other variable people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>For instance, McMillan at that time wrote a letter to The Times. It was very brave of him publicly supporting me. He mentions it in his memoirs. From the Conservative side, good many others, too. Anar <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span> Bevin signed my manifesto after I left the government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Labour.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Labour and Liberals. The ablest of them, I think, at that time was Mond, afterwards became Millty <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>. Not the old man, the ICI man, but his son.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And do you think they would have accepted?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, they did. They accepted my policy!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And they would have joined your government?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> And if we had been in a position to form a government, which we were not, I think they would have joined. But we could not form a government because the party machines were still omnipotent. The party machines are immensely powerful in this country. And not until there’s a much greater crisis than there was then will that cease to be.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Right. Now you have a position, you see, and here we come to it. That in 1931 you had a list of people, and an impressive list of people, who you felt would support you. Between then and probably 1930, 1935, those people deserted your movement, or deserted being associated with you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the main reason for that was that they were all convinced that you were anti-semitic, that you became anti-semitic. Why was that? Why did you let that impression get about? Why were you like that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That did not occur until sometime later. That was not the reason these people, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> No. Well, in the first period, there was the first period when people left because your supporters seemed to be anti-semitic. And then the final, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, I think that’s a slight confusion. They left me, that is, these well known MPs, the sort of people I’ve mentioned simply because we were coming to the election of 31, the triumph of the national government. The party machines were absolutely omnipotent, and no man who stood a chance, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Again, I’m talking about the way that your influential support in general slipped away. And it slipped away. And the reason that today people, when they hear you’re going to be on television or anywhere else want to watch, because they’re horrified by the prospect. The reason is that they are convinced and on the evidence I must say, I just don’t understand how you, why you, did this, or why you let it get about that you werec in that period and your movement, obviously was, but you were anti-semitic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yeah. No. Well, I’ll deal with that. Certainly it’s very necessary to deal with.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Well, deal with it now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Thirty two, when we started, 1932, anti-semitism was never mentioned. It was unknown to us. For two years the subject was never mentioned!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>First time it was mentioned, Albert Hall, 34. And mentioned for one clear reason! Not anti-semitism. Because I contend and can prove that I’ve never been an anti-semite, who I define, as a man who’s against jews because they are born jews.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I, however, had a quarrel with certain jewish interests, not all jews, before the war, for a perfectly specific reason! I, rightly or wrongly, thought they wanted a war with Germany! Another World War! And I as an ex-serviceman, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And rightly or wrongly, did you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Rightly or wrongly, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Did you think it rightly or wrongly?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I think it’s still right to say that some jews, many jews, for very good reasons, from their point of view, wanted a war with Germany!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But you were not anti-semitic?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I was not anti-semitic. And I defined it at the time. I have the evidence of it. You can prove it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:178]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Yeah. Now, I mean, just enlighten for me, because this would be valuable. What is the difference between your position, I mean, and it’s a tight one, and I’d like you to do it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33564" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852-1024x725.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="453" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852-1024x725.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852-600x425.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852-768x544.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852-1536x1088.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2852.jpg 1858w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I think three quotes will suffice between your position and anti-semitism. The first quote was Bellevue, Manchester, where you said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The mention of the Empire makes the mob yell louder than ever. Let them destroy it if they can these jewish rascals. The red mob howls that we shall put them down. They are right. We shall put them down and we shall put the nation up.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then there was this one in 34, where you said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Behind the communist and socialist mob is the alien jewish financiers supplying the palm oil to make them yell!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the third case, quoted again from a speech, you said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The great and powerful were afraid when our fascist movement opened it’s crusade against jewry. Up to three years ago, anti-semitism was unknown as a strong force in Great Britain. Today, in any audience in Britain, the strongest passion that can be aroused is the passion against the corruption of jewish power. It is not we who perish in the struggle!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, what is the difference between those three quotes, particularly the last one, and anti-semitism?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yeah, I’ll tell you exactly. We were in the fight with the jews, or many jews. I won’t say all. A tremendous fight! And I hit them as they were hitting me with everything I’d got. When I talk about the jewish rascals was yelling at me, they were yelling at me and attacking my meetings with razors, bludgeons, weapons of every sort! And I had to organize the black shirt movement in this country in order to maintain order at all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MOGV-Part-17-3268-William-Joyce-aka-Lord-Haw-Haw.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-25912" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MOGV-Part-17-3268-William-Joyce-aka-Lord-Haw-Haw.jpg" alt="" width="735" height="536" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MOGV-Part-17-3268-William-Joyce-aka-Lord-Haw-Haw.jpg 735w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MOGV-Part-17-3268-William-Joyce-aka-Lord-Haw-Haw-600x438.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 735px) 100vw, 735px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image: William Joyce received his face scar, from a razor, fighting with jews and others in London.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But you say, &#8230; Yes, I know all about that. But you say here that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We started our campaign against jewry, up to three years ago. Anti-semitism was unknown as a strong force in Great Britain!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Doesn’t sound as though you disapprove of it very strongly.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No. It was unknown until they came out, as I thought, and as I still think, for good reasons, from their point of view, to provoke a World War. I wanted to stop the war. They wanted to have the war! And we had a head on collision! I fought many men in the past about various things whom I don’t fight today. The folly is to continue a fight when the reason for the fight is over. Why battle with them for being jews? That’s why I’m not an anti-semite.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But why, in that case, did you condone all the violence that was practiced by your supporters, in the 30s, against jews, going down into the East End?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Now, wait a moment. Let’s look at that very closely. What meetings of other people were ever broken up by our people? It was our meetings were attacked! I’d had the largest meeting, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But you went down and held meetings in jewish areas in the East End. You marched through jewish areas!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Provocation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That’s been stated again and again and is quite untrue!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Anybody, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> All right, I challenge.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Can you turn a camera, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> It was 200,000 East Londoners that stopped you marching through. The dockers, the clothing workers, the shop assistants, stopped you, and even the biggest police force they could muster couldn’t push you through. We beat you then and we’ll beat you again! And we beat your friend Adolf Hitler! But we were predecessors, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33571" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859-1024x727.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="454" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859-1024x727.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859-600x426.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859-768x546.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859-1536x1091.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2859.jpg 1878w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Can we just move this camera here a bit to one side so that, &#8230; Sorry, yeah, but so that Sir Oswald can see the person.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> Why would they, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Right, just the gentleman in the front.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33572" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860-1024x721.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="451" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860-1024x721.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860-600x422.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860-768x541.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860-1536x1081.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2860.jpg 1872w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> I was making the point. Mosley at the moment tries to present himself as sweet and reasonable. He’s not anti-semitic? Here’s a picture of him in 1962 with the leader of the neo-Nazi party in Germany, rapidly calling for a re-division of frontiers. The leader of the Belgian fascists. The leader of the Italian fascist. And a face, &#8230; This was published in your fascist paper. That’s blacked out, or whited out, there it is <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[pointing to a photo he is holding]</strong></span>. There it is.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33574" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862-1024x721.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="451" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862-1024x721.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862-600x422.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862-768x540.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862-1536x1081.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2862.jpg 1876w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Who is this mystery man that you weren’t prepared to show in your own paper? A war criminal?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33575" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863-1024x725.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="453" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863-1024x725.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863-600x425.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863-768x544.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863-1536x1088.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2863.jpg 1878w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You are now busy going around Europe trying to rebuild your crooked cross international. You failed once, but you hope that the revival of German Nazis in Western Germany, the old gang coming out of their holes again, will give you another opportunity, even though you’re an old decaying element in this country!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33577" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865-1024x728.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="455" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865-1024x728.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865-600x427.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865-768x546.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865-1536x1092.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2865.jpg 1868w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33580" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868-1024x714.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="446" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868-1024x714.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868-600x419.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868-768x536.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868-1536x1072.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2868.jpg 1872w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[audience applauds]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Okay, just a moment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> There’s a picture of him, sweet and reasonable! Look at it! Trying to preach to the people of East London.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33581" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869-1024x728.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="455" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869-1024x728.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869-600x427.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869-768x546.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869-1536x1092.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2869.jpg 1868w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Here, just a minute. Let him answer!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867-1024x723.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="452" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867-1024x723.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867-600x423.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867-768x542.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867-1536x1084.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2867.jpg 1868w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, now you’ve had your speech, can I say a few words in reply? Now, it’s divided into two parts. Your question. First of all, you say I’m in alliance with anti-semitic elements in Europe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33582" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870-1024x736.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="460" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870-1024x736.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870-600x431.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870-768x552.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870-1536x1104.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2870.jpg 1870w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And secondly, you say, I held provocative, or bullying marches through East London. I’ll answer the first point first. None of the men in that photograph are anti-semite, or ever have been! None of them! None of those parties, none of them! They’ve all specifically disclaimed it. Every single one of the men in that picture have declared against anti-semitism. And what you say is completely untrue!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> Hitler was an anti-semite, but you were his ally!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33583" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871-1024x722.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="451" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871-1024x722.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871-600x423.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871-768x541.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871-1536x1083.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2871.jpg 1884w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, I was not his ally.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shouting]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Now you see how we had to fight for free speech. When you show pictures of me, when you show pictures of me in uniform, it was because men like you came by the score to our meetings. Enormous meetings, like that in Exhibition Hall, London, 30,000 people are coming to listen to us, which was in perfect order, because we’d stopped people like you breaking up the meetings. And I did that with the Black Shirt movement. And I’m proud to have organized and led the Black Shirt movement to restore free speech to Britain!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Parts of the audience breaks out shouting.]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> Heckling is part of the British tradition! And until, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Heckling was not something done. Shouting down, which is what you’re doing. Shouting down!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-33584" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872-1024x730.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="456" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872-1024x730.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872-600x428.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872-768x548.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872-1536x1095.jpg 1536w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/David-Frost-Interview-Oswald-Mosley-2872.jpg 1868w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> No heckler had ever been beaten, and kicked, and had bones broken, and sent off to hospital! Never! Not since the ancient times. But, you started a fashion that you learnt from your friend Adolf Hitler! You thought the anti-semitic, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Just a minute. Let him answer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> You want to bring the meeting, as your friends often tried before, to a close and stop the speaker, either of the speakers, having their say. And that is why we organized to put people like you out, when you denied free speech in Britain! And it was a right and proper thing to do! And they were magnificent young men, and I’m proud to have led and organized them to put people like you out at a meeting!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[The audience member continues to try and shout over Oswald]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes, very well. You will not allow other people to speak! And you are doing here what you’ve always done, denying free speech to other people. And that is precisely why I put the people like you out of our meeting. And I do it again!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, do you want? Do you want to hear the answer?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Audience applauds the heckler.]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Look, let him answer <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[directed at the heckler]</strong></span>. You’re arguing his case by not letting him speak.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes, you proved the case very well. Thank you. As Mr. Frost points out <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[slight applause from audience]</strong></span>. Now, oh yes, you proved it very well with people like you, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Answer the question now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> We’ll answer now. The thing we want to answer now is the question of East London, which Mr. Frost raised. And I should answer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I have never marched through areas like White Chapel! Never held meetings in White Chapel. Since in 1931, a well known jew was my candidate there, so I had no need to march through. I stood in Bethel Green, or our people stood in the 37 election. We polled 23% in Bethel Green, 19% in Limehouse and 14% in Shortage <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[sp]</strong></span>. Are you seriously contending that we had no right to hold meetings in areas where we got votes like that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> May I deal with that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> No, just a minute, I want to just follow up this for 1 second. You were saying in answering all that, you were talking about where you marched and where you didn’t march. And that you were not anti-semitic. And I must say I’m not convinced on that point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>However, let us talk also, in addition to being non-convincing there, on the subject of your supporters.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There is no doubt, there is no possibility of denying the fact that people who said they were supporters of yours engaged in vicious, provocative acts, against jewish people in the London area. Did you ever dissociate yourself from that conduct? Did you dissociate yourself?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:06]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> When?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Not only did I, &#8230; By expelling them from our movement!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> All of them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Anybody we found doing that was expelled at once! Because it was not allowed! For one thing, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes, he was expelled from our movement. I threw him out. Thank you very much. I threw him out three years before the war, for that reason, among others. People were expelled who did that kind of thing! And we maintained our position of fighting fairly by political means, winning votes in East London, as we won votes everywhere at that time!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> On the basis of stirring up race hate! On the basis of appealing to the lowest instincts of people! In the same way as Hitler won his mass support by dividing people! Saying the jews are to blame and not anybody else! You thought you’d use the same tactic!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Not at all. Do you want the answer, or do you want to shout?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> I’d like to have the truth, instead, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Please be quiet!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I fought some jews, because I thought and I still think they were trying to make a war with Germany! And yes, in the 1930s they were doing it! From 1934 till the end!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shouting]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> And they came out, they came out in, &#8230;.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that man is proving my case up to the hilt! That’s the sort of thing we’d have had the whole time. Never a word of reason or argument heard! Like I’m trying to have with Mr. Frost. Because people like that are imported to make free speech impossible. He’s proving my case, up to the hilt!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, as far as I and Hitler go, the answer is this. I declared in a speech in 1934, which I think was one of the speeches from which quotations have been made, that we could never have any racial policy in Great Britain because we were running a multiracial empire. The German problem was completely different.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shouting]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> The Germans were anti-semitic, and I was not!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> What about this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> You can show anything you like. It’s all on public record. We certainly have always been against the import of aliens, not only jews, but people from abroad, into the overcrowded housing areas of Britain, while our own people had no houses to live in!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> So I was against it then, and I am now!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:25]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Right. Sir Oswald. So okay. Now, in all of this, you’ve been going on about all of this, and you’ve been dealing with the various points that have come up. But now you are saying absolutely, definitely, that anybody who was guilty of anti-semitism was expelled from your party, and so on. How can you possibly say that as if you expect people to believe it, when everybody who watched the events of the 30s, whoever you talk to, knows and associates your party totally, with racial hatred, and anti-semitism?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Either what you’re saying is not true, or you were the most ineffectual, put upon, unable to impose his leadership on a party, leader that has ever been seen!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[loud applause from audience]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That is a quite false dilemma. We were in a fight! I should not expel every man who was fighting with jews in the street, particularly if they attacked us with razors and other weapons! We were in a fight! That’s why we wore uniform in order to deal with men like this, who broke up our meetings by organized violence!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shouting]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> And, of course, I would not expel Black Shirts who fought jews in the street, when they were attacked by jews! What I would expel is a man who went around saying that we should deal with all jews in a horrible fashion. He would mistreat them, or bully them. Not at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We were fighting jews for one reason to stop a war with Germany! As an ex-serviceman of the first war, in air and trenches, I was determined to stop another war if I possibly could!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: brown;">
<p><strong>Audience Two:</strong> May I deal with it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> All right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> May I deal with this?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> No. Let someone else speak. Gentlemen in the third row.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> You say you are never anti-semitic except the jews individually. What did you think of von Streicher*, who was the most rabid anti-semite in the history of the world?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;"><span style="color: #008000;">[*<strong>Der Stürmer</strong> was a weekly German tabloid-format newspaper published from 1923 to the end of the Second World War by Julius Streicher, the Gauleiter of Franconia, with brief suspensions in publication due to legal difficulties.]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Streicher? Streicher. Well, he, not only he, but the whole German party was anti-semitic! That is, they condemned jews because they were born jews!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Portrait-of-Julius-Streicher-wearing-his-Nazi-party-pin.jpeg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-33586" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Portrait-of-Julius-Streicher-wearing-his-Nazi-party-pin.jpeg" alt="" width="489" height="683" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Portrait-of-Julius-Streicher-wearing-his-Nazi-party-pin.jpeg 609w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Portrait-of-Julius-Streicher-wearing-his-Nazi-party-pin-600x837.jpeg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 489px) 100vw, 489px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Image] Julius Streicher</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> Streicher sent you a Telegram.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, that’s not proved. I’ve had that before. I have absolutely no recollection of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But wait a moment. Wait a moment! If it was true, which it didn’t, I was trying to keep peace with Germany. That is why twice in the 1930s I went to Germany. And I don’t care what a man’s politics are, or what his opinion. I’m not going to sacrifice young English lives because I don’t like his politics or his opinion!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> May I read your Telegram to Streicher?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No. First of all, I don’t believe it to be true. You can read it if you like. I don’t care. But it is not a true Telegram. And if it was, I wouldn’t mind.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> The Telegram reads:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: darkorange;">“I greatly esteem your message. In the midst of our hard struggle, the forces of jewish corruption must be overcome in all great countries before the future of Europe can be made secure in justice and peace. Our struggle is hard, but our victory is certain!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Manchester Guardian, and the German paper, printed this Telegram and you never at the time denied it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, would you like to have the answer?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: darkorange;">
<p><strong>Audience Three:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> No.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Would you permit me to reply? No, you won’t.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Will you please be quiet?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, you won’t permit me. Right. Now the answer is this, as I’ve already told you, we were in a fight with those jewish interests in this country in order to stop a war with Germany! And anyone in any country who supported us in that, I would send a greeting Telegram, too. Although I think I did not send a Telegram at that time! Anyhow, it doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Sir Oswald, I think that the main point to emerge from that first half, when voices were not indeed speaking in concert, was the feeling that seems to be absolutely general among this audience about the way they see your campaign in the 30s. And in the same time, the way that they see your relationship with Hitler, as a damaging fact.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If Hitler had survived at the end of the war, would you be in favour of his being tried and convicted for war crimes?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Yes. I think anyone who has committed crimes should always be tried, under whatever law exists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And would you have thought that he would have been, and should have been, found guilty?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I have said again and again that the murder of the jews in the concentration camps was an outrageous, and vile crime. I’ve said that again and again.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Audience member: You deny it!]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> When did you first say that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Ever since the war. The moment I was convinced that it had happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Audience heckling loudly]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Just a minute, please.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That’s quite untrue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> When did you first say, admit this fact, about the jews in the concentration camps?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Very soon. Very soon after the war. I think. When the Nuremberg trials had taken place. When the evidence was clear. Quite frankly, when I first saw it, I did not believe it. I then saw not only the results of Nuremberg, but I saw German friends. And while I don’t think nearly so many were killed as were supposed to be killed, that doesn’t matter! It doesn’t matter! Because any crime, the murder of any defenseless prisoner is a crime! And everybody must detest it, particularly professional soldiers. I was brought up as, one must despise and detest the crime of killing defenseless prisoners!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Yes, but I mean, the thing is that, and not just prisoners, but the jews in general. But I mean, as late as 1947 you were telling press conferences you were against the Nuremberg Trials and you didn’t believe it. So it clearly wasn’t as soon after the war as you say, but clearly you were backing, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Can I deal with that? The Nuremberg trials. I am against people being judge, jury and prosecuting counsel in their own court. You ought to have an impartial tribunal and everyone, on each side, who’s committed crimes ought to be tried. What about the people who dropped a bomb on Hiroshima when the war was over? Is that not a crime? Is all crime to be one sided? Is morality a one way street? Where are we getting in all this humbug?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> I don’t think, actually, that Nuremberg trials can be described as humbug and nonsense. They seem to be dealing with a fairly serious subject.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Humbug and nonsense if it’s one sided.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> But it wasn’t one sided. You’re saying now that you, in fact, in the 30s backed and imitated a man who turned out to be a monster?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No! Imitation is completely untrue!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> All right, let’s just take a look at this piece of film.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Can I answer that point?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Well, you can just watch the film first.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Film of Mosely walking among a crowd of applauding supporters, giving the “<em>Roman salute</em>”, and then speaking]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Sooner or later in the lives of great nations comes the moment of decision! Comes the moment of destiny! And this nation again and again in the great hours of its fate has swept aside convention, has swept aside the little man of talk and of delay, and have decided to follow men and movements! That day we go forward to action, let who dare follow us in this hour! That is the permanent almighty mood of Britain. And I came that in the ranks of our black shirt legions, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>, and mighty ghosts of England’s past are <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> their strong arms around us, on their voices echo down the ages, saying onward!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> That is one of two people speaking there. It’s reminiscent either of Hitler, or of Charlie Chaplin’s great dictator. Which is it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Audience laughs and applauds]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Oh? That’s a very smart question. Personally, I think it’s a very good speech about England’s greatness. To which we’ve all just listened. I’m very glad, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> What’s all that business? <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[giving the “<em>Roman salute”]</em></strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> But don’t, you know what that is? What an incredible question! That is a salute 2,000 years before Hitler was born.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Of course it was a salute 2,000 years. But whose salute was it in the 30s? Whose salute was it in the 30s!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> First Mussolini and then Hitler.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And who is it reminiscent of there? Everyone in that audience, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Are you saying that Hitler imitated Mussolini?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> No, I’m saying that everyone in that audience is not going to think, oh, there’s old Ossie <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Oswald]</strong></span> imitating someone from 2000 years ago!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Audience breaks out in laughter and applauds loudly.]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:21]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Anyhow, that was the origin. And I think a good many people in England have enough historical sense to know why all the movements from the Renaissance in Europe adopted the European salute. Which wasn’t adopted by Hitler, Mussolini or anybody else, but was taken over by us all because it was a European salute! And because we were fighting against people who gave the clenched fist salute! And it was an answer to that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>An answer to the Communist International. The results of which you’ve seen recently and the support of the old parties for people like Philby, MacLean, and the rest of it. And that’s what we were fighting, and giving the salute of European manhood. And I’m proud of it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> In other words, fine words and we can all take them at their face value. In other words, would you say that the wrong side won the war?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, certainly not. I’m for my country, and offered to fight for my own country, as I’d done before.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You people come along now and talk as if we’d never fought for Britain. I fought for Britain in the air, and I fought for Britain in the trenches! And I offered to fight in the last war the moment the life of Britain was at stake! And yet I claimed the liberty, I claimed the liberty to persuade the British people by my voice, if I could, to make peace! I claimed that liberty! And it was denied me by putting me in jail to stop me making speeches!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And on balance, would you say that Hitler, it was better, or would have not been better, if Hitler had ever existed?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> No, certainly better that he should not ever have existed, because his existence led to 25 million Europeans being killed! And if I had my way, those 25 million would be alive today, including 6 million jews who never would have been killed if there hadn’t been a war! They made the greatest mistake they ever made when they produced that war!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And who was most of all responsible for the 1939 to 45 war?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I’ll tell you exactly. Hitler began it by driving east. And he would undoubtedly have destroyed Communist Russia in so doing! We intervened and declared war to prevent him doing it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the result is that Britain today is tossed to and fro between America and Russia. We’ve lost the empire! We’ve lost our position! And we had 25 million Europeans killed! And I’m prouder than anything in my life of having done my utmost to stop that suicidal war which has destroyed Great Britain!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And you would, in fact feel, you said in 39, so you said those incredible words in 1939.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Tell me what they were.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Where you said that this was:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Simply a jewish financier’s quarrel.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You don’t think at that time we had a moral choice to take, as to whether we were going to try and prevent all that Hitler was doing?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> A clear and fair question, which I’ll certainly answer. No, we had not! And I’ll tell you why.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When Mr. Gladstone wanted to have a war with Turkey in order to stop the Armenians being badly treated, the leader of the opposition. Mr Disraeli, a jew, opposed him with success. And that’s traditional British policy. If we run around the world fighting wars for anyone who’s having a bad time anywhere, you will never have peace for the rest of your time. And you’ll have world death because now you’ll fight with nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> Now we come to the crunch point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Please.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> We started at the beginning with the story of a man who was in 1930, promising. Who could have been a future prime minister. Who made a gigantic miscalculation in 1931 in thinking he could form his own party and carry the country with him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Who then, in order to somehow give the fuel for that movement, allowed it to become the vehicle, let’s be very euphemistic about it, the vehicle for a great deal of racial hatred and anti-semitism! That kept the movement going. It wouldn’t have got kept going, but it destroyed it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, why a man as promising and as intelligent as you, couldn’t you see that the decisions, or lack of decisions of you in the 30s were in the short term, evil! And in the long term totally disastrous! So that today you’re either a hated, or a joke figure! You can never regain that lost ground. Why did you make that mistake? It’s a personal tragedy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Let me take you up on that. I have dealt with the jewish question. But of course, it wasn’t that in the slightest which got us going. It was unemployment. You never heard of unemployment? There was terrific unemployment! That was the origin of our movement and of these movements in every country. Unemployment! Vile housing! The other failure of government to do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s why I got going! And I was right when I could not get the old parties in Parliament to act to try to form a new movement. And I was right, in my view, to try to stop the World War!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And today you have nothing to show for it. And when your candidates stand in elections, they try and choose in 66, the three areas where they can capitalize most on racial unrest, and they end up with an average of just over 3% of the votes. There’s nothing left to show for your movement. What went wrong?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> That, again, is quite untrue. There is no racial problem of where I stood. Whatever! Absolutely none!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost: </strong>3%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> I polled 4.8%. Not 3%.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> You polled four point, &#8230; Just a minute. You polled 4.8%. Just a minute, please. Just a minute. 4.8%. A colleague of yours, 4.6%. And another two point, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> We averaged 3.7. We averaged 3.7.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> That’s fair.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> And if you must talk so much about Hitler, who doesn’t interest me very much, we pulled just about double what he did five years before he got power. So don’t be too cocky about that!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> And do you think one day you may still get power?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Well, there are two ways of getting power. One is by, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: purple;">
<p><strong>Audience One:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Oswald Mosley:</strong> Now we’re getting to the point, which, of course, you want us to miss. Now, there are two ways of getting power. One is by a consensus of the people of the nation, and agreement of everything vital in the country coming together, which I strove for before, and believe we can now possibly attain in the coming crisis.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The other way is to build up a grassroots movement of the people. But never do it until the first method has failed. In life, always try to do things gently, and only get tough when you have to get tough!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>David Frost:</strong> All right. And with Sir Oswald Moses message in life, always try to do things gently. We’ll say goodnight.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:49]</strong></span></p>
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