Joel Davis: Hello, welcome to the stream. Another show this evening, The Joel and Blair Show. It is the 6th of the 6th! Ominous! 6th of June, 2025. Big show for you tonight. A lot to discuss. A lot’s going on. We’re going to be talking about the N-word. We’re going to be talking about all kinds of things on the show this evening. The question is where to begin.

 

Also, we’re streaming live on Comfies on Comfy Friends X channel. So we lost quite a few viewers when we got banned from X. So it’s nice to be back on X. Nice to have another platform back open to the show. So hello to all the viewers on X. Strap in. Should be a good show this evening.

 

Yeah, it’s pretty fucking cold down here in Melbourne. I got the heater going. I’m pretty cosy. But how you feeling, Blair? You like the cold weather? I actually don’t mind the cold weather. It’s kind of spiritually centreing. But I know you love it because the summer, it just irritates you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, I’m always irritated by something, but I’m less irritated in the cold. I’m not really sure why. I seem, I don’t know, my neurons fire better in the cold. I think we’re more genetically adapted to the cold, our kin, members of our race. I don’t know, I just seem to be happier when the weather’s a little cooler. I mean, what do you want? You want to lay in bed sweating all night, getting eaten by mosquitoes? It’s not for me, man! I don’t know why people like going to these third world countries for holidays like Thailand and all that shit! Like:

 

“Oh, my God, everything’s so cheap!”

 

Yeah, it’s cheap because it’s a shit hole! And no one actually wants to live there. They make all their money through tourism. It’s too hot there! I don’t really. I’m not interested in that kind of weather. I like to be far away from the equator.

 

But Joel told me, I wasn’t going to wear the beanie because I thought it’s a bit of its a bizarre kind of a beanie. I don’t have any other beanies. This has kind of been handed down to me. I’ve had it for a long time. But Joel said it looked “ornamental”. So I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but you’re gonna have to endure the beanie, guys. Look, sorry if it looks stupid. I’m not taking it off. My head’s cold.

 

02 Trump vs Musk Feud

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Joel Davis: Hold frame! Don’t concede frame like that, don’t concede frame like that.

 

But, yeah, no, I got the beanie on to, because I just want to be cosy, feel cosy. But yeah, so let’s get into it.

 

I mean, there’s a lot to break down. Today, all the news breaking, waking up this morning, Australian time, and all the news breaking of Elon Musk and Donald Trump falling out. That’s kind of interesting. Like, I wasn’t expecting to cover that on the show tonight. Kind of you could see that brewing for a while, but I wasn’t expecting it to blow up like that. I think maybe we will kind of analyse that, but maybe later in the show.

 

03 Clip of NSN Rally in Melbourne – Ban Niggers Not Machetes

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But first there was a kind of provocative rally. I don’t know who did it. These guys, they all dress in black and so on. I don’t really know who they are, but it was kind of interesting. They had an interesting little banner drop, kind of banner action the other day. They put out a video. So maybe we could play the video and then. Yeah, then we could analyse it.

 

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9 news: Bouquets of flowers marking another victim of Victoria’s machete crisis. Police say up to 10 young men of African appearance are, still on the run. A teenage boy has escaped. Injuries unleashed.

All seven people allegedly involved in that violent machete brawl at Melbourne’s Northland Shopping Centre have now been arrested. That’s good news. So Andrew McCormack is in Melbourne, Maca. It comes as the state’s landmark machete ban comes into effect today.

Anita Allan (Vic State Premier): These knives are dangerous weapons. They have no place on our streets anywhere! And that is why I will introduce as many laws to get these dangerous knives off the streets.

NSN members: Chanting (with “Ban Niggers Not Machetes” banner), White man! Fight back! White man! Fight back! White man! Fight back!

7 News: Police are investigating after a mob of masked militants gathered at Northland Shopping Centre in the early hours of this morning.

[End of clip]

 

Blair Cottrell: Funny how we didn’t have much of a problem with knife crime in Australia until the government filled the country full of Africans. [chuckling] But it’s the knives that are the problem, not the people wielding them! Not the people with sub 70 IQs that don’t really understand how to deal with conflicts or get what they want through any other method than by using a knife. That’s not the problem! It’s the knives themselves! Can you believe these people? I don’t know. Joel, what do you think?

 

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04 Tactical Use of the N-Word, Pros and Cons

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Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean this it was interesting to watch the reaction to this, because by the standards of NSN rallies, this one was pretty tame. But just because there was a tactical N-word on the banner, it got a massive response online. Just from my clicking around on TikTok and Instagram and Twitter and so on. It accumulated more views. Like the short phone clip video of the action. It accumulated more views than Australia has people. I counted at least 30 million views. Not to mention it was broadcast on the news. And not to mention whoever else uploaded it or reacted to it, I didn’t see.

 

So this went very viral! Like this got a lot of attention online. And it got a lot of attention in not in, not with, not necessarily the most politically engaged audiences, because it was posted by mainstream media accounts or other just kind of random news accounts and so on.

 

So initially it was posted on Twitter. It was posted by people connected to the so-called dissident Right. And you know, a lot of people liked it, obviously.

 

But also it drew a lot of criticism from people who said:

 

“Oh this just associates our worldview with incivility and with vulgarity. And this is just going to turn people off. And normal people they’re willing to have an adult conversation about immigration and crime and even like race and crime, but not when you go dropping the N-word.”

 

But then I started reading the comment sections on Instagram and TikTok and so on, and the comment sections were dominated by seemingly normal people, loving it! And saying, “there’s nothing wrong here”. They were very supportive. They were saying:

 

“How come White people can’t stand up for ourselves? That’s a double standard, blah, blah blah.”

 

Basically siding with the demonstration. There wasn’t too much discussion of “are these people feds?” There wasn’t all this discussion of “is the N-word offensive?”. Now obviously Leftists and non-Whites in particular, non-Whites didn’t like the rally and reacted negatively towards it. But the rally’s not for them. It wasn’t designed to appeal to them. The people that it was designed to appeal to, seemingly liked it.

 

And I think what we need to kind of come to terms with is the fact that this so-called “normie” out there that, is willing to have a grown up conversation about race, but gets turned off if you ever mention Hitler or use a racial slur or something. This person doesn’t actually exist! It’s a totally contrived concept drummed up by over politicised conservatives.

 

Blair Cottrell: Really though? I think they exist in the form of the Boomer. Not all the time, but some older generation people, they close down as soon as you mention Hitler, as soon as you start to become vulgar with terminology that you’re using regarding race. I know Boomers that will shut off instantly with that kind of stuff. So they do exist, I think.

 

Joel Davis: I think the people that shut off with that kind of stuff, they’re also not willing to, they’re shutting off in general, like they’re shutting off towards, … I don’t think people that are really open to a pro-White, like a kind of racist, racialist perspective. I don’t think that there’s a lot of people like that that are also super offended by the N-word or something. I think if you’re offended by the N-word, it’s because you’re actually offended by racism in general, no matter how clean it’s presented to you.

 

And in fact, if you do, what you saw here was, if the banner said “ban blacks not machetes” or “ban Africans not machetes” or something like that, it would have got some traction, but nowhere near as much. It would have been nowhere near as provocative to I think mass audiences. And it wouldn’t have driven a conversation, because what it did is it created this dichotomy in people’s minds of:

 

“How come the system, how come the mainstream media is more concerned about naughty words then they’re concerned about knife crime? They’re concerned about people getting slashed up with machetes, that they’re concerned about you know, incompatible, you know, races being brought into our country en masse.”

 

I’ll just bring Blair back on. Dropped off there as, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Sorry to interrupt. I have this like this hectic new mouse that I bought and it’s got all these buttons on the side and apparently one of those buttons closes the tab that I’ve currently accessed.

 

So I have to be careful not to, or maybe I can programme it so that doesn’t happen. I’ll figure it out. Sorry, please continue.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so what I was saying was is that the use of the N-word, not only did it, basically get more attention as a result, but it also created this dichotomy between how come the system and the mainstream media is more concerned with mean words or offensive speech, than they are with you know, savage violence. And also the ridiculousness of government policy that no one can tell it like it is like machetes don’t produce violent crime you know, violent criminals produce violent crime! And there’s obviously a massive difference, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Africans statistically produce more violent crime as well. Like that is just a statistic fact!

 

05 Why the Fuck Are There Africans in Australia!

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Joel Davis: And why the fuck are there Africans in Australia! Like indeed. The argument for immigration is usually these people come in, they contribute to our society, they work hard, they become doctors, they become, … Africans are not coming in and contributing to our society. They’re bringing with them incredible amounts of crime. These people are coming from war torn backwards countries. They’re savage races. They’re not compatible with Western civilisation.

 

You know, obviously we push back against the arguments made for you know, the benefits of, the so-called benefits, of like Asian immigration or something, but at least they have some kind of argument if you’re looking just through the prism of economics and you don’t think about certain things.

 

But with the African migrants it’s basically impossible to really see what the benefit, supposedly is, of these people coming into our country.

 

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06 Whites Created the Problems in the Rest of the World Through Our Expansionism and Colonialism?

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Blair Cottrell: It’s not on the basis of them being any benefit to our country that they’re brought into the country though. It’s on the basis of I think two things. Human equality, the idea that everyone can be equal if they just experience the same kind of social, opportunities, situation.

 

And also the fact that Africa or African people only live in extreme poverty and experience war conflicts as a result of White colonialism!

 

And so they’re not brought into the country on the basis of its beneficial to us or being beneficial to us, it’s equality, and White people must pay for what they’ve done! So how do we get around that? How do you get around those arguments in the conversation with the standard person when someone brings that up, what’s a nice effective, quick way to respond to that, to shut them down, do you think?

 

Joel Davis: Oh, I think it’s quite simple. Like, number one we are first and foremost responsible to our own people and to ourselves before we have to like, worry about the problems of the rest of the world. Like, it’s not our responsibility to say, …

 

Blair Cottrell: But we created the problems in the rest of the world through our expansionism and colonialism. It’s all our fault!

 

And so now we have the, …

 

Joel Davis: That’s just bullshit!

 

In sub-Saharan Africa they hadn’t even invented the wheel yet when the White man showed up. These people were living in a totally savage, weren’t they?

 

Blair Cottrell: Weren’t the Egyptians black? [chuckling] That’s what some of them think. I’ve seen that online the, …

 

Joel Davis: The pharaoh Akhenaten. Based upon the DNA evidence, do you know which population is most genetically similar to Akhenaten, Blair, in the world today?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve heard. But remind me, it’s like redheads, isn’t it? Like Germans and redheads.

 

Joel Davis: Well, specifically the Scottish. The Scottish people are the most genetically similar, followed by the Irish.

 

Blair Cottrell: Wow! So there you go.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we waz. We waz [kangz].

 

07 How Irish Are You? Joel and Blair’s Ancestry

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Blair Cottrell: How Irish are you? I think I’m a quarter Irish.

 

Joel Davis: Not that much. I got Ulster Scott in me, but they were from what’s called Northern Irish, but they’re not Irish, they’re Scottish. I’m more Scottish than anything other than English. Like a 50, 50 Scottish English blend. I used to think that there was more Irish in my ancestry because members of my family couldn’t distinguish correctly between northern and southern Irish. And then when I looked into it myself, I verified that.

 

But you can tell by the way I look as well. I think I got more of that look. I don’t have a very Irish look.

 

Blair Cottrell: I also thought I also thought I had more Irish in me than I do, since members of my family couldn’t distinguish between crime and peaceful resolution to conflict! [chuckling] But no, like, we go, okay. The Cottrells do all right. Mostly farmers and butchers is the history of my family. So honest people, hard working, honest people. I’m proud to come from lineage like that.

 

Joel Davis: Were you able to trace yourself back to any convicts?

 

Blair Cottrell: No. I haven’t really looked into it though, to be honest. I haven’t looked into it. My grandmother on my father’s side says that her line goes back to German and she had some evidence of that. I can’t remember what it was. But the name Cottrell often pronounced Cotrel, is from an old Frankish tribe, I think, and first appeared in England during the Norman conquests sometime during the 11th century or after that. So there’s all sorts of European stock from various different places there. English, possibly French, possibly German. We’re just not really sure.

 

08 DNA Labs Selling Your Data to Interested Parties

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So, yeah, it’s all a bit grey. I don’t really go for that DNA testing type stuff. Because I have a friend who knows someone who actually got charged with an offence, a crime, as a result of someone in his family giving their DNA to one of those DNA testing websites, indicating that the testing websites, the people you send the DNA to, they sell your DNA to interested parties, state police, you know, someone growing something in a lab, perhaps. You don’t know what’s happening with your DNA when you hand it into those agencies.

 

So I haven’t done that for that reason. It might be a bit paranoid. Maybe it’s harmless. It’s up to you can do whatever you want, but I don’t really want to spit in a cup and send it through to DNA testing. What about you? Have you done any lineage?

 

09 History of the Name Davis

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Joel Davis: No, I haven’t done the DNA testing, really, going off, tracing lineage. But my grandparents were pretty good at tracing lineage. So we know most of it back most generations. Yeah, people in the comments are saying Davis is Welsh, A, Welsh name. That’s true.

 

But the thing is that when the convention to develop last names came in Britain, which only happened after the Norman Conquest, so that was 1066, and it was brought in through phases in Britain up until about the 13th century, before everyone had a formal last name there or thereabouts.

 

A lot of people who became Davises was just simply because they were the son of David. You know, there was some guy called David who was their dad or their granddad or something. So that actually happened in Scotland and in England as well as in Wales. It wasn’t only in Wales where that happened, which is why, if you look at the commonality of the surname Davis, it’s more common in Britain. Oh, sorry, in England than it is in Wales. And it’s actually even more common in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and America than it is in Britain. And it’s especially common in America.

 

So obviously the Davises, we had a propensity to move when the time came to start settling the new World. So I think it’s like the seventh most common last name in America among American Whites.

 

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Blair Cottrell: When I went to England, I showed you, I went to one of the oldest cathedrals in England in Winchester, which was the original capital of England before London. I don’t know if it was the official capital, but it was the centre of trade before London became the official capital. And in this cathedral there was like an old book with all of these servicemen, men who had died in service of the Crown. I think it was mostly from the First World War, but when you turned to the page D, DA, there was like 25 or 30 Davises. I noticed more Davises died for England than almost any other surname I could find in the book actually.

 

So, yeah, very popular surname from England.

 

10 Davises in the US Had Slaves Resulting in Niggers Having the Name!

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Joel Davis: Yeah, it’s a very common name. And yeah, famous Davises include Jefferson Davis, who was the president of the Confederacy of the Confederate States of America.

 

So yeah, we owned a lot of slaves unfortunately in the South. And that has resulted in a lot of niggers. It’s unfortunate for this reason, because we owned a lot of slaves and that has resulted in a lot of niggers in America taking on the Davis name. Why the fuck did we allow blacks to take on the last names of their slave owners? I mean that was. It’s gross! You like watch like the NFL and it’s like “Javante Davis” or some shit! And it’s like, for fuck’s sake! Why do they have our names?

 

Blair Cottrell: But the relationship between families and their slaves I think often was, you know there was relative friendship happening there.

 

And I think both the family and the slaves started really appreciating each other and maybe even the family just became a little too kind to the slaves and that’s how they ended up with the surnames. Or maybe they just kind of adopted those surnames. The slaves, when they were told to write down their name whenever they were becoming, you know, free or legitimate citizens because they couldn’t think of another name to adopt. There’s probably a multitude of reasons.

 

But I know that being a slave in old America didn’t always mean that you were mistreated in any significant way. I mean, sometimes it probably did, but it was sometimes it was just a better alternative to living in the African Wilderness. Right?

 

11 Whites, Jews, Blacks and the Slave Trade

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Joel Davis: One must also remember that we didn’t go around we as in White and I guess a lot of jews were involved in the slave trade, obviously. But we weren’t going around like capturing random wild niggers in the bush of Africa or something. They enslaved their own people and then sold them to us. Right? So, like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they didn’t sell them directly to us. They sold them to the jewish merchants who owned the slave ships, who then sold them to us.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! So it’s their shame. Like, if we enslaved our own people and then sold them to niggers that would be our shame. It wouldn’t be their shame.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but we would have the intelligence to take responsibility for it. [chuckling] There’s the difference. Right?

 

12 Instagram and the Very Positive Response to the Ban Niggers Not Machetes Action

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Joel Davis: Yeah. But let me show you guys this.

 

So, I was on, scrolling around. I have a burner Instagram account, which I don’t really use Instagram, I just have a burner account for when people send me shit!

 

Blair Cottrell: Really? You should use Instagram more. You strike me as a real Instagram kind of guy. Not really!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, maybe I should because I’m banned from everything else, maybe I should give Instagram a go. So there’s this account.

 

Blair Cottrell: Apparently, before you continue. Instagram is popping off at the moment, I’ve heard like all the memes. Like, there’s a lot more free speech allowed on there than there was before. I think Zuckerberg’s worried about being cut out of the social media capital because I’ve heard reports that it’s actually pretty based. But I don’t know how the true that is in practice. I’ll have to jump on and use it a bit more myself and find out.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I heard that a lot of nationalist accounts who were doing well on Instagram from Europe and from America, were all recently banned in a big ban wave. And they’ve nipped that slightly in the bud recently, but, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I haven’t heard about that, so maybe I’m wrong.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we should definitely probably try and make hay while the sun shines on Instagram while we’re banned from X.

 

So this is like just some random Instagram that’s got like less than 2,000 followers. Quick World. Never heard of this before. They just post random news clips, right? And then I was scrolling through and the news clips, they get like 2,000, 3,000 views, if that they posted the clip of the Ban Niggers Not Machetes banner [by NSN] action. 1.9 million views!

 

And then the comments, I was scrolling through every single comment. You know how they show like the top comments that get a lot of likes at the top.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Every single comment was positive! Look at some of these:

 

“A White man so-called hateful rally is 1 million percent more peaceful than a BLM rally. Hahaha!”

 

“So for years we get black riots with participants burning the nation’s flag, screaming black pride, and often committing acts of violence targeting Whites. But this is a disturbing display of pure hate hatred?”

 

This is how normal people are reacting. Right. I got more here, let me pull more up.

 

“I mean, they’re not wrong. No, they’re 100% correct this time. You conveniently left out the fact that they were protesting because four African teenagers threatened a 15 year old boy with a machete. Maybe give all the people the facts before making a biassed post!”

 

You know, it just goes on and on, these kinds of comments. It was incredible to see because I thought, okay, this rally is pretty controversial. I’m sure it, some people will love it, but it will it’s pretty provocative. I was surprised at how supportive a lot of these reactions were, scrolling through social media.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, me too.

 

Joel Davis: At the beginning you were telling me this is just going to upset normies and no one’s going to like this kind of thing. Maybe you don’t understand normies? Maybe normies are actually more based than you first realised?

 

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13 Discussion on the Effective Use of the N-Word and Media Response

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Blair Cottrell: It’s not just that, but I think people don’t always understand the purpose behind it. I mean, correct me if I’m wrong because it wasn’t my idea, but it’s sort of a tactical thing when you drop the N-word like that in a public way. Because it’s an effort, I suppose, to force government officials to react to what you’re doing and thereby demonstrate that they’re more offended, or taking the N-word more seriously than they are violent knife crime. It’s like it’s worse to hold up a banner with that word written on it apparently, than it is to assault someone with a machete in a public shopping centre in broad daylight in front of families and so forth.

 

It’s like that banner has essentially caused more outrage in the political and media class than the knife crime itself. Which is one of the reasons that you use that phrase. Right? You put that phrase on the banner to demonstrate for the public. Because the public don’t like that they don’t like it when there’s an obvious problem that isn’t being addressed for ideological reasons. And that’s what gets people on side. That’s Why I think the public is on your side, regardless of the slur. Because there’s obviously ideological problems. There’s a double standard being employed here.

 

Joel Davis: And that’s why it was a tactical use. Because if there’s a lot of situations where it’s a bit much maybe to drop the N-word, right? But sometimes it’s not a bit much. Sometimes it’s manifestly appropriate. And this is a situation where it is because when you’re talking about blacks running around with machetes, slicing people up in shopping malls, that’s nigger behaviour! What could be more nigger behaviour than that? That’s the exact reason why we have a slur like that for these people. So you know, it makes sense to drop a word like that.

 

And then you see a reaction where Leftists, non-Whites, who have contempt for White people, the system, all these people show so much concern about the use of a word on a banner at 3 o’ clock in the morning when no one got hurt, no one attacked anyone. It was just a video of guys holding a banner at the front of a shopping centre at 3 AM. This apparently is the most horrible thing ever! It’s so horrible! It puts everything in perspective for a lot of people. Like, hey, wait a second. And now you’ve got a sympathetic audience, a sympathetic receptacle for your N-word. Now your N-word can have a lot of potency and power because it really radicalises the conversation, enforces a conversation that otherwise wouldn’t be happening.

 

I mean, look at this. This is Daily Mail, Australia’s TikTok, right? I took this screenshot yesterday. I’m sure it has more views now. You see here I was scrolling through some of the TikToks get a lot of views. Like one here’s got half a million views. This one, 300 something thousand, 50,000.

 

 

Look at the one of the rally, though:

 

“Sickening scenes in Melbourne as White supremacists descend on Shopping Centre.”

 

7.1 million views! Right? I looked on the metrics on The Noticer. It was the biggest post the notice has made you know, this month, most traction and they’re putting out news every day. Comfy Friend posted, a clip of it. It was like one of the most viral things he’s posted. You know, it got incredible amounts of traction. I don’t think he’s got anything more viral than that all year. Why is it so interesting to people? If it’s bad activism obviously it’s good activism.

 

So that’s the thing. It’s like, apparently it’s the rule:

 

“Oh, you can’t use language like that!”

 

But, maybe it’s about trying to find the appropriate way to use language like that. Like controversy is a weapon. And now we’ve forced all of these the politicians to not only talk about the issue but also, very explicitly racialise the issue and show how, the anti-racist ideology is preventing anyone from stating the obvious and trying to come up with the only obvious solution, which is it doesn’t matter whether you ban machetes. If you’ve got a bunch of Sudanese refugees living in your city, they’re going to be engaging in violent crimes. You know, home invasions are happening every other day.

 

14 Sudanese in Pakenham Attacking White High School Kids at Party

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The same night that this happened, by the way, there were a bunch of Sudanese in Pakenham, which is in southeastern Melbourne. They jumped the back fence into some some high school kids party and started bashing, filming themselves by the way, bashing all the White kids, saying:

 

“Oh, Sudanese things, just Sudanese things!”

 

And they’re like beating them up and taking their shoes, taking their phone, taking their wallet and they’re posting it online like:

 

“Haha, how funny is this? We’re just bashing White kids and taking all their shit!”

 

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Blair Cottrell: What area was this in Pakenham?

 

Joel Davis: Packenham.

 

Blair Cottrell: Probably the White kids are like significantly outnumbered in Pakenham, I could imagine. Pakenham is a suburb in southeastern Melbourne, like inland suburb that is just notorious for being inundated with immigrants. A lot of immigrants, a lot of black immigrants, Indians. It’s just somewhere that most Australians don’t want to go anymore.

 

15 Machete Fight at Northland Shopping Centre

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Joel Davis: Mm. But like in Melbourne you, home invasions are through the roof! Every single crime metric is through the roof! And every other day there’s some new story of blacks having a machete fight or running through someone’s house. And this machete fight, we talked about it last week at Northland Shopping Centre. The only reason that it was brought to a heel was because of a random White pedestrian, White shoppers.

 

Blair Cottrell: A random White guy. And isn’t that symbolic of the real solution to this entire problem, is that’s that standalone working class White male. The White male is the only real effective solution to this problem. The White male that is no longer afraid to just stand up and provide that physical, immediate solution. Without that guy willing to do that, then there isn’t any sort of effective solution. There’s just bureaucracy and excuses. So I found that really symbolic.

 

16 Magistrates in Victoria Are Being Trained in Diversity and Inclusion to Go Easy on Immigrants

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Joel Davis: That’s the thing as well sthe only reason that we can’t solve this problem is because White guys don’t want to get thrown in jail. Because if we were to do something serious about this problem, the system would come down hard on us.

 

Meanwhile, the story was out in the Noticer earlier this year. It has come out in other mainstream outlets. It has come out that the magistrates in Melbourne or in Victoria are being trained by diversity and inclusion, whatever types, to make sure that they lower the sentencing against refugees immigrants and so on, to prevent them from getting deported when they commit violent crimes.

 

Blair Cottrell: So these magistrates would be smarter to realise, …

 

Joel Davis: These blacks are doing, like, home invasions, putting machetes to the throats of innocent families at 2 o’ clock in the morning, taking their car keys and taking their TV and their laptops, whatever. And the magistrates are being trained not to deport them, not to give them a jail sentence longer than one year, which would trigger them getting deported.

 

So then basically, they all know that even if they get caught, it’s a small holiday in prison at worst. So they’ve got no disincentive not to keep behaving like this. They know that they can just take the piss. Whereas if we rose up against them and put them in their place, they’d throw the book at us! Like, forget about it.

 

Not only are the police, and I don’t necessarily blame the police for this because it’s you know, their hands are tied. But the system! Not only is the system not enforcing the law correctly in order to deal with the problem, bringing them in the first place, which there’s no reason to bring them in, that makes any sense.

 

Secondly, not enforcing the law properly so that they basically feel emboldened to behave like this. Third, the they will actively destroy the lives and punish harshly anyone in the community who tries to put a stop to it ourselves.

 

And so they’ve created the problem, at all three levels.

 

Blair Cottrell: You think if you’re a magistrate, you’d be smart enough to realise that you’re being taken for a ride when you’re being put through a diversity and inclusion brainwashing process. You know, magistrates aren’t stupid people. You know, they’ve been in law quite a while. They’ve well I can only assume they’re not stupid people, but maybe they’re just so keen on keeping their position, keeping their their job as a magistrate that they’ll do whatever they have to do.

 

That’s the problem as well, isn’t it? It’s money, money, cowardice and the comfort of a minister’s chair or something like that.

 

17 The Problem of Anti-Racism Being Championed by Whites

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But you were saying earlier, you were remarking on being surprised by how much support you were mustering up from regular people in response to a banner which would in times hitherto have just been considered vulgar and perhaps would actually just cause public uproar. And so isn’t that interesting though how The Times are changing and I think people are just angry. They’re angry enough to not even care about that word. They’re angry enough to support whoever is standing up against this, regardless of what kind of language they’re using, because people just want to see results. And that’s notable because the primary force or the sort of people who champion anti-racism are White people. White people are the reason anti-racism exists! Without naive, obsequious White people who are obsessed with feeling good about themselves, we wouldn’t have anti-racism.

 

But now we’re seeing this phenomena where many White people are sick of that. Many White people are turning their backs on anti-racism because they’re just interested in seeing results. If they have to be racist in order to see those results, so be it. They don’t care. And that’s exciting man. I’m excited to see where that future leads.

 

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18 Upcoming Communist Anti-Nazi Rally at Northland Shopping Centre

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Joel Davis: Yeah it’s going to be interesting too because tomorrow, there’s some follow up stories about this shopping centre in Preston, in North Melbourne called Northland. Number one there’s going to be a communist organised rally tomorrow at the shops. An anti-Nazi rally because we held up a banner that said nigger on it. I wasn’t there, of course I wasn’t there! But, you know, members of the Org, members of the NSN allegedly were there.

 

And so they’re going to have an anti-Nazi rally. That’s going to be interesting. I wonder if that’s going to make the news. What kind of freaks are going to show up to that? I saw they said “trans folk and refugees welcome”. So I don’t know why the trannies are getting lumped in that.

 

[Image: The anti-Nazi Rally that took place on Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at Northland shopping centre Preston, Melbourne.]

 

Blair Cottrell: They’ll be destroyed. They’ll be destroyed! They’ll be de-legitimized by their own optics. So let them do it.

 

19 Meat Cleavers Being Carried as a Weapon

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Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, I hope we get some footage because it sounds like an absolute freak show!

 

And then also yesterday we had a story where someone was arrested at Northlands because they were wielding a meat cleaver as a weapon.

 

So the machete ban doesn’t seem to be going too well. They’re just moving on to meat cleavers now. So I wonder if they’re going to ban meat cleavers? I don’t know what the butchers are going to do. Say goodbye to your Scotch fillets because they won’t be able to chop them up anymore. Going to have to just buy the whole cow, basically, and just kind of gnaw it, because meat cleavers are probably going to be made illegal next.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s at the discretion of police when they bring in a ban like this. Like, if police see you carrying a meat cleaver on public transport obviously they’re going to take that from you. But if you’re using a meat cleaver as a butcher, I think you’re going to be okay. I know that you’re making a joke. Maybe I’m just being autistic. But yeah.

 

20 Machetes Useful When Going on Bushwalks

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Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I am making a joke, but that was already the case about machetes. But apparently they’ve got to ban them, so you can’t buy a machete at Bunnings [similar to Home Depot]. Say you want to go on a bushwalk a machete is very useful if you’re going off the beaten track to, basically slice your way through vegetation and so on. Because I don’t know if you guys have ever been on a bushwalk at home, or a forest walk or whatever you Americans call it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Walk through the woods.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. When you get off the path, and you’re kind of having to kind of crawl your way through shrubs and so on it becomes exhausting. Your arms get all sliced up. Having a machete just to hack through it makes your life so much easier.

 

So now we can no longer hack through vegetation without a special licence. I wonder how you get your machete licence? I don’t even know even how it works.

 

Blair Cottrell: You can’t even walk through a lot of bushland in Australia at all anymore. There’s this weird situation going on where certain lands and public parks. I don’t know what they’re called. They’re like National Parks. I think they’re called, which means they’re like public property, but they’re being closed off due to some Aboriginal heritage or Land Rights Act.

 

And apparently there’s dozens of National Parks all across the country that the government’s closed access to. And some of them are major tourist attractions. So people come to this country to walk through certain regions and see various landscapes and they can’t do it because of Aboriginal rights or something like that. But that’s a different subject to explore entirely. I saw this in a video recently. But I think there might be something deeper going on there. Perhaps the government is selling that land to private enterprise for some specific purpose. I don’t know. But I’ve got to look into it. If anyone knows anything about that, send me some details because I’m interested.

 

21 Calling Whites ‘Cum Skins’ as a Slur

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Joel Davis: Yeah, I see that there’s some seething! I don’t know if they’re a nigger, or a pajeet, but something like that, in the comments. I see the moderators have taken them out, but he called us “come skins”. I find that to be an interesting insult. Apparently this is an anti-White insult. Because of course we call them shit skins. I’d much rather be the come skin than the shit skin because you are refuse! But we’re the seed of life, you know. We’re the seed of life. So of all the kind of bodily fluids to identify with, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s virtually impossible to be offended by a racial slur if you’re White. [chuckling] Because it’s like being White is, it’s great to be White! It’s not a problem. Point it out in any way that you think is derogatory. And it’s just funny to us. [chuckling] You can’t get offended by racial slurs unless you don’t like yourself. Because someone’s pointing out your race to you and you’re trying to deny and cope with your own racial identity that you don’t like. And so you’re offended because someone’s pointing out a reality that you’re trying not to acknowledge, Right? So all you got to do is like yourself and suddenly racism is funny.

 

22 Blacks Are ‘Offended’ by ‘Nigger’ Because It Gives Them Power

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Joel Davis: Yeah, well, that’s a thing with blacks too. Like if blacks, blacks already kind of 50% owned the word nigger because they turned it into like cool. You know, they got it in like rap music and they’re like, “what’s up my nigger?” And so on. And all it is like Latin for black etymologically. Like it’s nothing to even be offended by if they would just chill with everyone calling them niggers too, and like:

 

“Oh, yeah, I’m a, you’re a White guy, or whatever.”

 

It would have no potency, would have zero potency. It’s only got potency because they’re offended by it. Now they also pretend to be offended by it because it gives them power. They get to be a victim and it authorises them to commit acts of violence and aggression towards Whites.

 

And so they’ve charged it for their own hate, for the purposes of their own hatred. That’s very important to remember. The only reason why blacks get offended by the word is because they hate White people. And they want to be able to develop some kind of excuse by creating this kind of fake moral conundrum. They want to be able to create a way, a pretext, to express their racial hatred.

 

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23 Average Aussies Males Don’t Like People Claiming to Be ‘Offended’

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Blair Cottrell: They still want to be accepted by us as well. It’s like they don’t like us, but they also want to be treated as equals at the same time. So I don’t know what’s going on there. It’s kind of something to do with an inferiority complex, I think. But I don’t know. All I know, though, is if you’re offended by something, if you’re getting worked up about something, Australians, they’re going to keep doing whatever it is that offends you. They’re going to keep developing that line, they’re going to keep poking the bear and they’re gonna take the piss any way they can.

 

So this is not the kind of place where in social situations, being offended doesn’t really hold any weight down here in Australia. The government tries hard to make it a thing and the media’s on board, obviously.

 

But I think one of the reasons the standard working class Australian tends to still have pretty based perspectives is because it’s when you’re offended down here, it doesn’t mean anything. In a typical social situation, people just laugh at you. That’s a good thing!

 

24 They’re Trying to Make Being an Aussie ‘Bloke’ Illegal

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Joel Davis: That’s how it works in a normal Australian friend group. Like, if you get offended by something, everyone will keep bullying you until you realise that you’re getting bullied because you’re offended.

 

Like if you just bantered back, then you wouldn’t be targeted. Yeah, it’s just until you realise that you’re making yourself a “victim” and then that produces a social space free of “soft cuntism”, basically, as Jacob Hersant calls it. That’s normal Australian, you know, particularly male relations.

 

And yeah, obviously they’re trying to make being a bloke illegal. Australia used to be all about being a bloke. It used to be about, drive a V8, get on the piss, do doies [donuts], send it, have a farm, you know, say what you want, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe an occasional race riot on the beach!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And they’re trying to make being Australian illegal. That’s what they’re trying to do. Because a bunch of faggot communists and seething ingrates in charge.

 

25 a Conspiracy to Make Aussies into a Mongrel Slave Race

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Blair Cottrell: You can’t bully Aussies, can you? You can’t turn Australians into slaves, into a slave class. That’s why they’re trying to get rid of us. They want to replace us with a more manageable population they can bully, push around, force them to live in little McMansions and cubicles, force them to work 16 hours a day. You can’t do that to Aussies! They’re not going to play that game. And that’s what it all comes down to I think it’s about replacing us with a slave race, with a mongrel slave race. And that conspiracy, I think, is the most outstanding one! It’s the one that’s at the centre of all other conspiracies.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But also a lot of the people who want to convert us into a slave race are themselves already members of it. They’re trying to drag us down to their level. That’s the other thing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Misery loves company, bro! Misery loves company!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. That’s all these freaks that are going to show up to the shops tomorrow to do their anti-Nazi protest. They’re basically the dregs of society that want to drag everyone down to their level.

 

26 the Miserable Mentality of Leftist Freaks

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Blair Cottrell: Can you imagine the sort of things people like that talk about in private? Can you imagine the threshold of conversations like you wouldn’t be able to say anything that you’re actually thinking. All you’d be able to do is like, give shit to Nazis and talk about what a good person you are for standing up for minorities. You know, talk about the Arab style scarf that you just got given by Socialist Alternative rally on the weekend. What a boring shit life! [chuckling] It’s like, I can’t even visualise it, man! I don’t. Sorry for doing it to you. If you’re thinking about it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, they. It’s basically just a misery convention where they all get together and talk about how victimised they are and how all the different mental illnesses they have and you know, no one’s allowed to make any jokes that offend anyone. They just morally police each other all the time. It seems horrible.

 

When I was younger, I did associate with people who are ideologically Leftist in certain situations. And I never lasted long because I just offended them because I can’t help myself, I’m me! I’m an edge lord, you know, naturally. So it never worked out. But which is good. I mean, that’s obviously just natural. I don’t belong with them.

 

27 Blair’s Encounter as a Teenager at a Marxist Convention with Fat Lesbians

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Blair Cottrell: So I found, I found them first as well. Like I’ve told the story a couple of times. Went to a Marxist convention when I was 18 because they were some of the first posters I saw. The posters they used to spread around Melbourne had a slogan on them saying “ideas to challenge the system”. You know, I was an edgy teenager. So, yeah:

 

“I don’t like the system. Let’s go meet these people and see what they’re talking about. No, man, not my clan at all!”

 

Wasn’t a single other working class person there. It was just all of these very overweight lesbian looking women glaring at me as though I was the enemy. And I’m like:

 

“Hey, I’m just here because we don’t like the system, right? Or hang on, these people kind of are the system. These are the exact, this is our problem right here. I’m thinking.”

 

So, [chuckling] yeah, it’s like a fake resistance. I determined it was kind of like a fake resistance that exists to possibly catch people like me and steer them in the wrong direction to essentially neutralise someone who could potentially join a revolutionary, a real revolutionary force.

 

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28 Ted Kaczynski Summed up Leftism Pretty Well

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Joel Davis: I think Ted Kaczynski summed up Leftism pretty well. His assessment is that:

 

“Leftists are people who are upset with the system or not embodying its own values purely enough. So they’re not revolutionaries. They don’t oppose the values of the system. They support the system so much that they’re upset with the system for not being more systemy than it actually is!”

 

So like that’s what they’re all saying. They’re like:

 

“Oh, look at the White privilege of these men standing in balaclavas at 3 AM! How come they weren’t arrested?”

 

They, probably weren’t arrested because it’s impossible to tell who the fuck they are because they’re covering up their identity because the anti-White system would arrest them and try to throw them in prison otherwise!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but what the Leftists want is for like 30 likely suspects to be rounded up at random and, executed out in the Woods for social justice! Maybe they’d be happy with that, but probably that still complain that it didn’t happen fast enough. [chuckling] I don’t know, man!

 

I mean, that’s what’s, that’s how crazy things can get though. Like, history proves that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that’s what they are.

 

I mean, these Leftists, they’re totally, entirely dependent upon the system as individuals. They they’re on all kinds of like, medications. A lot of them are on disability benefits or Centerlink. You know, these people are not independent people that don’t need like a large bureaucracy to prop up their lives. You know, they need to go and see like mental health professionals and they need all this support! Right. I think they advocate for, is making everyone feel included and supported and having more government programmes to take care of everyone. They call themselves “anarchists”. It’s the most un-Anarchistic position you could possibly have! They can’t have enough government. They want to turn everything into a democracy. They want everything in society to be this big bureaucratic voting committee procedure where, that’s their ideal. They don’t want to be left alone.

 

29 Marcus Follin Said That ‘Dysgenics is the Only Reason Leftism Still Exists’.

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Blair Cottrell: I’d have more empathy for them if they weren’t so self contradictory, if they weren’t literally representing the opposite of what they claim to represent. It’s wild that people can come to that manner of existence.

 

But look, in summary, Marcus Follin [aka the Golden One] said that:

 

“Dysgenics is the only reason Leftism still exists.”

 

It’s just dysgenic. It’s bad genetics, bad blood, too much drugs, too much of that victim psychology that comes along with just being genetically deficient. And like, you can’t really get past that summary. I don’t think that’s a good summary. Wraps it all up.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah! Fair enough. Is there anything else to say about this particular subject? I mean everyone knows, everyone who’s an Australian at the very least knows about the problems with African crime. There’s not much point going over it again. I mean, it’s important to reiterate it to the public.

 

But you know, we all know about it and we cover it on the show all the time.

 

But yeah, it was interesting to see. I think the, it’s more the reaction to the banner and how it was received by different groups of people that I found more interesting to be honest than anything else.

 

30 A Non-White Reaction to the Ban Niggers Not Machetes Video

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Blair Cottrell: I wanted to remark on a reaction video I saw that, a woman filmed. The woman was not White.

 

Joel Davis: Do you have it? I can play it.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, I don’t. I saw it in some chat on Telegram and I’m in so many different chats that people add me to, I can’t remember which one it was. But I remember some of what she said. She was clearly very upset, wasn’t White by anyone’s standards. I don’t know what she was though. She kind of looked maybe slightly African and, I don’t even know. But she was quite wide eyed in the video here and there, like kind of crazy eyed! But there was something she said I found interesting. She demanded that:

 

“Other people need to call this out!”

 

Sure, she said the police should arrest these guys and investigate and blah blah, blah. But she said:

 

“Other people must call this out!”

 

And I thought, isn’t that peculiar? Whenever someone who’s not White feels discriminated against, targeted by racism, they appeal to other White people to come to their aid. It’s like they feel like they can’t even help themselves. They require the White champions of anti-racism to storm in and save the day! And it brings me back to what I was saying before. What happens when those anti-racists no longer exist within the White community? What happens when White people actually start to become ethnically conscious and realise they’re just losing out as a result of this equality worldview? That anti-racism is actually just against their collective ethnic interests. It works against them in every way! You know what happens then? It’s like when all these non-White people are complaining about racism, it basically just dies out, doesn’t it? The whole thing dies out.

 

I mean what do you think? Why do you, why do you think they do that? Why do you think they appeal to White people whenever they experience discrimination? Why can’t they deal with it themselves? Why can’t they come up with some resolution as a result of their own thinking?

 

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31 Why Non-Whites Call On Whites When They Experience ‘Discrimination’

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Joel Davis: Well, because they know that they’re in our country. And, if White people en masse basically saw our position as legitimate and joined with us in our cause their position in our country becomes precarious. So they need, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It just occurred to me, maybe she was. I’m kind of just thinking while I’m listening and thinking back to the video as well. Maybe she was afraid? Maybe it wasn’t just anger in her eyes that I saw, but fear as well. Maybe she thought that the fact that banner drop happened, it might be a sign that White people aren’t as anti-racist as they were before and therefore her presence in our country isn’t as secure as she once previously believed? Maybe it’s kind of like a fear reaction, a self preservation thing. Like:

 

“Come on guys, we need to call this out. We can’t let this become the norm or I won’t be able to live here anymore. Fuck!”

 

Maybe it’s something like that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, it’s basically that she’s obviously showing her anxiety. You told a story about when you’re in jail and I thought that was pertinent. Where you were talking about how there was like some non-White guy. This is years ago, when you’re in prison, like before you became so ideological.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s a good story.

 

32 Blair’s Prison Story About a Nepalese Taking Advantage of His Kindness

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Joel Davis: I mean, you should tell the story. It’s your story.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m like 22, I think. And, I’m almost done serving my prison sentence in Port Phillip Prison. And this new guy comes in. He’s Nepalese, from Nepal. Tiny little guy. Like he had a man’s face with stubble, but on the body of like an 8 year old boy by our standards. I couldn’t believe how small he was. And he looked like he hadn’t eaten a good meal in weeks.

 

And a little while later I was cooking some eggs. Used to cook eggs on a sandwich press, like on a toasted sandwich maker because we didn’t have anything else to cook on. So you just fire that up, cook your eggs on that. And I was cooking like 10 eggs. I used to buy a maximum amount of eggs you’re allowed to buy as a prisoner, which was three dozen a week. And he walked by and I signalled to him and I gave him some eggs just because he looked so skinny! It was almost irritating me. I’m like:

 

“Get some food into your mate. You look like you need a good meal!”

 

Problem is though he didn’t see it as a random act of kindness. I didn’t realise it at the time, but he saw it as a weakness! He looked at me a certain way and then every day after that he just asked me for more eggs and other stuff too! More than once actually.

 

After that I noticed him looking into my cell as he walked past, seeing what else I had, seeing what he could get out of me. And then a group of Arabs, I saw this happen. They pulled him into a cell, tied him to a toilet and kicked the shit out of him. Probably for no reason. That happens in jail sometimes.

 

And I remember this because I was sitting down while this was happening, a few cells down, I could hear it happening. And he was shouting my name! He was shouting. He couldn’t say my name properly because English was his second language. He was saying “Blaira”. Screaming at the top of his lungs, “Blaira, Blaira”. And they were laughing at him. I could hear them laughing at him, saying:

 

“He’s not going to help you.”

 

And I thought to myself:

 

“What does he expect? Does he expect me to charge in there and take on a pack of wild Arabs like it’s a fucking Bollywood movie?”

 

Like, I realised that just by doing one nice thing for this guy, he just expected me to fall all over myself after that, to come to his aid to protect him and to provide him with whatever else he could get out of me.

 

And I realised, this is a great lesson here. I realised that some people, particularly people of the brown distinction, they don’t see kindness as kindness, they see it as naive weakness! And they just try to leverage more out of you perpetually. And isn’t that a good lesson? Or wouldn’t that be a good lesson for our politicians to learn? Because what are the people coming to this country doing? They’re not grateful for being allowed to come into the country in the first place. They’re not seeing it as an amazing opportunity like the Greeks and the Italians did. They’re not working their asses off to do the best they can for their families. Not all of them, not by a long shot. They’re thinking:

 

“Ha! What a bunch of idiots! What else can I get out of these morons? Oh, I can get housing, I can get welfare, I can get special rights because I’m not White and I’m oppressed! I come from war torn country. Wow, these people are really fucking stupid! What else can I get out of them?”

 

And it just never ends, right? So when you’re kind, when someone’s nice to you, when you’re a White person, right, you think to yourself, great, and you make the most out of the opportunity. You’re thankful for it, but you move on. You don’t keep asking for more. You don’t see kindness as weakness. You just understand that it’s a random act of kindness. Because White people are like that. They’re randomly kind because they just empathise with someone in that situation. In the moment. But it doesn’t mean that you can take advantage.

 

And I don’t know, I thought that was a good story to demonstrate that a lot of people out there who aren’t like us, you shouldn’t show kindness to them. You shouldn’t be so nice to them because they just take advantage of it. They actually just see you as stupid or weak for being nice. Maybe I could have told that story better.

 

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Joel Davis: No, you told the story very well. The word kindness, it’s got the, like, etymologically, it means treating someone as your kin, as your kinsman or kinswoman. It means treating someone like family. Well, these people aren’t your fucking family! Stop treating them like that. They’re taking the piss. I mean, it’s pretty obvious. But that’s how non-Whites think. I was thinking about this today as well, when I was thinking about why it is that, I guess I don’t know where Blair went. I guess we’ll be back soon.

 

33 Elon Musk Admired by Merchant Minded Indian and Asians

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When I was thinking about how come it seems like Asians and Indians, like really respect Elon Musk, whereas White people I find even if, you know, Elon Musk has done things over the last couple years that some of the things that he’s done, people like us have liked. Some of the things that he’s done, we haven’t liked. Right. But he’s been a mixed bag the last couple of years.

 

You know, he’s throwing Romans. He partially restored our guys to Twitter, at least for a period of time. You know, he played to the pro-White thing a little bit. But he doesn’t really seem to be respected overall by people in our group, because everyone can kind of smell, White people can smell that he’s got an agenda, that he’s disingenuous in some way. That because he’s a billionaire! He’s one of the richest men in the world. We don’t trust this guy.

 

Blair Cottrell: No one gets that, … [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Everyone knows that he’s obviously got an angle that is that there’s a disingenuous angle. Everyone can smell it. Every normal White person could smell it. Left-wing or Right-wing, everyone can smell it!

 

Whereas Asians and Indians, they all think that he’s, like, amazing! Because they’re merchant races. So to them:

 

“Wow, look at how rich and successful he is. And look at all of his companies!”

 

In Australia, when you see a Tesla, you will almost never see a White person driving it. I know in America a lot of Leftists before Elon switched teams, a lot of Leftist Whites were driving Teslas as a status symbol. And that happened a little bit here. But predominantly, if you see a Tesla, it’s a fucking Indian or an Asian driving it in Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: I have noticed that.

 

Joel Davis: Because they get sucked in by it because he’s like this rock star merchant. But we’re not a mercantile race. It doesn’t jive with us in the same way. These people think differently. It’s the same.

 

34 Indians and Asians Obsessed with Ways to Make and Spend Money

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I’ve said this before whenever I’ve worked with Indians and Asians, and then it’s been like the lunch break or something and was we’re talking just about you know, making conversation, making small talk. What I have found is that all they want to talk about is ways to make money and ways to spend money:

 

“Oh, I’ve got a good deal here. Oh, what do you think about crypto? Which crypto-currencies do you think are good? Oh, have you got a good bet on the cricket? Blah, blah!”

 

It’s all just like, ways of how to exchange m, you know, mercantile information with one another about ways in which we can make money or spend money more efficiently. That’s their entire fixation. When I talk with White people, yeah, those subjects come up occasionally, but generally speaking, it gets into something with a bit more depth in terms of like philosophy on family or life history or our perspective, our values, whatever, right? Music, art, something like that. But I’ve never been able to have much of a conversation about any of these subjects with an Indian or an Asian because they’re soulless!

 

Blair Cottrell: With the merchant brain it doesn’t really matter how you’ve achieved the success, how you own the companies, how you have the capital. What matters is that you’ve got it! You know what I mean? There’s no, like there’s less of a moral compass. It’s just about success for the sake of success, and that’s it. That’s good enough for the merchant. That’s the way they think.

 

35 More on the Nepalese Guy in Prison

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And in regards to the story about the Nepalese guy, by the way, like, if you might be saying:

 

“Oh, that poor guy, he got beat up by people for no reason. Why didn’t you help him, Blair?”

 

Uh you got to understand, this guy’s in jail. I actually heard about this guy’s story. He was an immigrant on a working visa. He was doing an apprenticeship as a chef under an Australian citizen, and he stabbed the head chef! He stabbed an Australian citizen. So he’s in jail for that. Then he was going to be deported when he finished his sentence. So like there’s a reason he’s in jail, being tied to a toilet and having the shit kicked out of him by a group of Arabs. That’s because God wills it! That’s fate. [chuckling] That’s what happens if you come to this country, you’re not from this country, and you stab a citizen in this country. So like, don’t think that I’m in some position where I’m a noble protector of people who are being beaten up. And you should never think the same about yourself either. You see some guy getting stomped on the street, you have to understand that sometimes he’s put himself in that position and it’s happening for a reason.

 

So if you don’t know someone that’s happening to, or it’s not really your business, you stay out of it! That’s kind of the position I would take generally.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, but if it’s a White guy and there’s a pack of nons, particularly if you’re out with the boys, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You read the situation, …

 

Joel Davis: You gotta back your boy. I mean, that’s happened. I’ve been out with the boys quite a few times, and there’s been a White guy getting picked on by a pack of non-Whites. And, the non-Whites picked on the wrong White, like, at the wrong time, because a pack of Nazis just happened to be there and sort it out.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, [chuckling] it can happen. Yeah. No, like I said. Anyway, it’s quite obvious when someone is being targeted unfairly, is being stood over, is being bullied, that kind of thing.

 

36 NSN Promo Clip

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Joel Davis: I’m getting a message from NSN HQ Beaming into my headset. Apparently a new hype edit just dropped. Haven’t even seen this edit. I’m gonna play it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Let’s watch it. Let’s watch and get a raw reaction to it.

 

Joel Davis: Let’s hit it!

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Who makes those, bro? That’s fucking cool! If I was 19, 18, I would join straight away! I mean, put yourself in the position of a young guy growing up in the current conditions, societal conditions. You’re going to join that every time! Whoever sees that and who has any balls left at all is going to join. That’s good stuff. It’s good content.

 

37 On Why You Should Join the Org

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Joel Davis: Imagine, imagine not joining us!

 

Like if you’re an Aussie, you’re a young White dude, even like a middle aged White dude. Join the fucking Org! Like, come on, like be a man, join the clan! You know, fucking hell, like what else are you going to do? What else are you doing? We’re all gonna die! You know, someone close to me died recently. It’s the first time a close member of my family has died so so far in my life and makes you reflect upon, just how quick and short life is and how you got to make it count because who knows, you get hit by a bus tomorrow, who knows?

 

But even if you have a full innings, it’s not that fucking long, you know, it blows, it goes quick and you gotta make it count! You gotta make sure that the time that you do have, you invest it in something worthwhile. And there’s been too many lives wasted amongst our people over recent decades. Too much nihilism, too much individualism in our people are just blowing through their lives on entertainment and trivial matters and you know, trying to make money and just shit that ultimately doesn’t really matter. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t be trying to make money and have a successful career but you know, what really matters, what really matters obviously is your family and your nation legacy that you’re leaving behind, the people that you love and that you care about your people and that’s all that really fucking matters. Everything else is secondary.

 

So you know, join the fucking tribe that’s going to put up a resistance to the genocide of our people for fuck sake. Like whatever else that you’re doing is significantly less important.

 

And it’s fucking fine, like we have a fucking great time! So yeah, join the Org, White Australia.org. You can join as a supporter. But if you want to join as a member, get on Telegram, message White Ausbot. That’s WHITE AUSBOT at White Ausbot on Telegram and get vetted and join the Org.

 

Blair Cottrell: I realised we just had an ad break, a really cool ad break. Like most streams you would get some gay product like you know, “men’s beard straighteners” or something like that! [chuckling] But in this one you get, we interrupt this stream to bring you exclusive new hype edit, Join the Nazi gang! [chuckling]

 

38 Succulent Chinese Meal – Democracy Manifest Guy

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Joel Davis: Oh, yeah! By the way, did you see that thing that Tom posted on Telegram just before we went live here? He got a screenshot from everyone surely knows the:

 

“This is democracy manifest!”

 

You know, that guy, the very famous, he was eating a succulent Chinese meal in King’s Cross [Sydney’s old red light area]. I think this was back in the 90s. And he was arrested and it’s a viral clip. Maybe I should pull it up. Surely everyone’s seen that it’s such a famous meme! Such a famous meme. You know it Blair, surely?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Like the guy getting carried out of the restaurant?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you know the story behind that? The story behind that I, as I heard it is this guy was just travelling around Melbourne eating like really fancy restaurants. I mean, just walking out. So he was getting free dinners every night.

 

Joel Davis: It wasn’t him though.

 

Blair Cottrell: It wasn’t him?

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no! So it was in Sydney. It was in King’s Cross in Sydney. And it was a case of mistaken identity.

 

There was a guy that was doing “dine and dashes” as they call them, and they got the wrong guy or they thought he was doing credit card fraud or something like that. And they come in, they arrest the wrong guy, and he has that hilarious reaction. And now it’s you know, it’s a goated meme. It’s funny how like 50% of Australian memes are some guy getting arrested or engaging with police in some way because we’re a convict colony. It’s like, …

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s funny how they have the wrong guy. They have the wrong guy, but he still just gives them so much grief! And it’s a complete smart ass, just by Aussie instinct.

 

I mean, I thought he was the guilty one from the way he reacted, but he’s not. He’s just Australian. [chuckling] And that’s his reaction to authority trying to tell him what to do.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, it’s awesome! It’s goated. It’s legendary. But Tom posted a screenshot from the Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, rest in peace. I believe he passed away. He was 82, but he passed away, I think a couple years ago. But it says here:

 

“In 2023, true crime author Mark Dappin published a biography of Carlson, (so his last name was Carlson) titled ‘Carnage A Succulent Chinese Meal, Mr. Rent a Kill, and the Australian Manson Murders’ that explores his connections to other criminals. The book revealed that Carlson was an admirer of Adolf Hitler and Nazism. And then on at least one occasion he threw a party at his home to celebrate Hitler’s birthday!”

 

Jack Carlson was his name.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Wow, I didn’t know any of that. That’s really interesting.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so, pretty funny!

 

So the “Succulent Chinese Meal-Democracy Manifest Guy” was our guy! [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: You can tell by the way he speaks that he’s a well read individual. You know, he’s quite articulate.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, absolutely! I think he was like a Shakespearean actor. He would act in Shakespearean productions and stuff.

 

39 Blair Giving a Lift to a Stranger

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Blair Cottrell: So, yeah, it’s so interesting the lives people live and you wouldn’t know it. Like you walk pass people on the street.

 

For example, I was getting my car serviced recently and there was an old guy at the mechanic who was also leaving his car there and he had no way to get home, and he lived on the other side of town. So I said:

 

“I’ll take you home, mate, jump in.”

 

I was picking my car up actually, so it was when I was leaving, took him home and we were talking in the car for about 10 minutes. The guy did like 15 years in the Australian Navy, had been to like eight different countries and just had this incredible story, this life story that you wouldn’t have expected. Like he just seemed like some random old homeless guy [chuckling] from the way he was dressed.

 

But yeah, everyone’s got a really interesting set of experiences and if you just ask them the questions, you realise that there’s a lot of little individual worlds going on out there. So much knowledge, a wealth of knowledge. And if you just take an interest and god, I can’t give that advice enough to Zoomers! Zoomers don’t ask enough questions, man!

 

I mean, I love you guys, I love how fast paced you are, how quickly your minds tick over. But you have to ask more questions, right? There’s so much to learn from out there, so much knowledge to absorb.

 

40 More on the Musk-Trump Fallout

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Joel Davis: Yeah, absolutely! Yeah, let’s talk about the Trump and Elon fallout because it’s quite interesting. Apparently they have a meeting scheduled tomorrow to try and patch things up. So but it was quite interesting.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you reckon it’s some kind of a stunt with an agenda behind it? Does it seem contrived to you?

 

Joel Davis: No, I don’t think so. I think it’s a genuine falling out because Musk donated more, he was the biggest donor to Trump’s campaign. Not only did he donate heaps, but he also bought X and reformatted the whole site to make it more amenable to Trump’s election campaign, which it’s hard to quantify exactly what impact that had on the election, but it was only positive, whatever the impact was.

 

And obviously he got very close to Trump. He was on the campaign trail in the administration. Early days it seemed like every time Trump was doing a press conference Musk was there with him with his like kids and shit and you know, they seem like best buds all of a sudden. But then in recent months they seem to have drifted and Musk isn’t really getting what he wants. I saw he wasn’t happy with the tariffs. That obviously negatively affects his business interests. He was vocal about that. He’s, not happy with. Trump openly rejects the concept of global warming and backs coal and oil, and these traditional industries, even nuclear energy, but has a lot of contempt for so-called green energy programmes and rebates and subsidies and all that kind of stuff.

 

And so now they’re trying to get rid of those which would really negatively affect Tesla because the electronic vehicle rebates make them competitive in the marketplace in the United States. And the tariff regime is not good either way whether they make Teslas in America or outside America. Either they’re exporting out of America and paying a tariff or they’re bringing it into America and paying a tariff. It’s not good from his perspective.

 

And then also from the perspective of SpaceX I saw Trump say that Elon Musk proposed someone to be head of NASA and Trump knocked back because the guy was a Democrat or something is what he said. I don’t know much about it, but obviously Elon was trying to install his guy in NASA because he’s the number one contractor to the US government when it comes to basically rockets and you know, space faring technologies, etc.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe Trump was worried that Elon was going to figure out that NASA is all bullshit! Just a way for the American government to divert funds into unknown endeavours. Or maybe I’m wrong. Maybe they are launching a lot of space satillites.

 

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Joel Davis: I don’t think they give that much of a shit about space exploration. But I think NASA is mostly about building rocket tech and other technologies, imaging technologies, etcetera, in order to, create intercontinental weapons systems.

 

And obviously Trump is now pushing forward with trying to build, the Golden Dome to try and build new weapons tech that will potentially be able to neutralise the intercontinental ballistic missiles of their adversaries and neutralise their capacity to obliterate them with nuclear weapons through trying to intercept them mid flight and so on.

 

41 Musk and Big AI Contracts and Peter Thiel the Homosexual Billionaire

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There’s also big AI contracts that were given out to Palantir, which is Peter Thiel’s company. Peter Thiel and Elon Musk are old associates that go back a long way. Peter Thiel actually fucked Elon Musk over, back when Elon Musk was CEO of PayPal. Thiel did a hostile takeover and kind of took over PayPal from Elon Musk back in the early 2000s when he was on his wedding honeymoon, and fucked him over. So they’re old enemies of sorts.

 

And Peter Thiel is the homosexual billionaire who was also basically responsible for J.D. Vance’s political career. He basically funded him all the way up into the Vice Presidency, first into the Senate and then into the Vice Presidency. Very key power player in American politics.

 

And so it seems like he won out over Elon on the AI contract because obviously Elon Musk has been developing Grok under X in order to develop AI capacity. So Musk has lost out on quite a few counts. And he’s obviously upset about that for perhaps obvious reasons. But it’s like as I said on I said on Telegram, it really goes to show that even if you’re like the number one campaign donor to Trump, it doesn’t buy you that much.

 

42 Trump’s Relationship with the Jews, and the Epstein Case

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And so it really, like, begs the question when it comes to Trump’s relationship with the jews, it seems like it’s more than just campaign financing. It’s almost like the jews have a deeper hold over him than just that, a deeper connection with him than just that. And the campaign financing is secondary. It’s just that he’s their guy, so they give him money to help him get elected.

 

But, you know, it indicates that he’s not just doing the bidding of Israel because they threw a few hundred million at him in his political campaign. But there’s something deeper.

 

And of course, Elon Musk came out today and he’s throwing shit at Trump, accusing him of being in the Epstein files, and that’s why they haven’t been released. And was sharing videos of Trump, you know, chumming up with Epstein back in the day and dancing with him at a party and talking to him about all these girls that he was gonna bang at this party. Or whatever. And strongly implying that Trump was somehow involved in the whole Epstein Island thing. And I don’t know if that’s true or not, but there definitely is nefarious connections there of some sort between him and Epstein because they were associates.

 

But also there’s pictures of [chuckling] Elon Musk with what’s her name? Ghislaine Maxwell as well. So it’s not like Elon Musk has no connection to these people. So anyway, shit is being thrown in either direction. It’s pretty interesting to see a fallout like this.

 

43 On Trump’s Charisma

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And I think that if they don’t patch it up, I think Musk comes off worse than Trump. Like, Musk, you know, came up with the big guns, trying to de-legitimize Trump. But the thing is, Trump supporters are so fucking loyal. Like, Trump has been screwing them over for like a decade, giving them basically nothing that he promised almost for a decade, and they are as loyal as fuck! Because the thing is that Trump has rizz. Trump is the most memeable human being on earth alive today. Like, he’s got incredible charisma, he’s funny, he’s likeable! Elon Musk, however, is not likeable.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I just wanted to add in addition to him being charismatic, the guy, I don’t know whether this is deliberate or not, but slotting himself into little, like, TV show cameos, classic American film, like when he appears in Home Alone inside that hotel and speaks to Macaulay Culkin, stuff like that really embedded him into American culture! It really made him a folk hero of the people of America. All of that is great PR. It’s almost like a long term strategy to becoming president later in life. It’s like it’s all worked to his advantage.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But like, you can’t deny that there’s just so many incredible moments from Trump. Like, there’s no end to it. Like when he almost got shot. It was awesome!

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s cool!

 

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Joel Davis: When he got arrested, the mug shot he did was just goated. The time when he came out of the plane and Ruth Bader Ginsburg had just died and he was like:

 

“I did not know that! You’re telling me for the first time!”

 

Like, I could go on for like an hour talking about meme-able moments from Trump. Like, it just never ends. Americans love him because they identify with him. He’s kind of like, “that’s my president!” It’s almost like he’s like an avatar of patriotism in America, for better or worse. Right?

 

44 Trump’s Leverage over Musk

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Elon Musk isn’t even really American, doesn’t even have an American accent. He wasn’t born in America. He doesn’t have that kind of loyalty from the people. And he’s kind of like awkward nerd, and so doesn’t have that kind of loyalty. But also, Elon Musk doesn’t have the leverage. Elon Musk companies, SpaceX, Tesla, they’re dependent upon government subsidies and contracts which Trump can control. And Trump came out and said:

 

“You know what, maybe one way that we could cut all the wasteful government spending that Elon has a problem with is to cut all of the subsidies and government contracts that Elon Musk has. Maybe that would be like the first thing to do. I don’t know why Biden didn’t do that.”

 

And so he’s basically threatening to just take an axe to his fortune. And Trump has the leverage to do that if he wanted to.

 

SpaceX is, they’re saying, has lost like half of its value in one day because of Elon’s antics today. And you know, there’s an argument I saw Steve Bannon come out and say that the Trump administration should just like, seize SpaceX as a national security asset off Musk entirely. And which it could if it wanted to. It has the ability to do that. I’m not saying that it’s going to do that. Trump is notoriously kind of moderate. He doesn’t punish his political enemies anywhere near hard enough. And he’s had that tendency for a long time. I wouldn’t expect it to change here. Probably wouldn’t go after Musk too hard. But he’s holding up the cards.

 

Whereas, like, what cards does Musk really have? Like, if Musk threatened to go and say:

 

“Oh, I’m going to go sell rockets to the Chinese instead of you!”

 

They’re just going to take SpaceX off him. If Trump doesn’t want to subsidise his Teslas, eat shit! What is he going to do about it?

 

45 Musk as a Capitalist, a Merchant and a Con Man

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He can’t go to the Democrats and try and like, support the Democrats. They all hate him now. Like, he’s completely burned that bridge because over the last year or two, Musk has said more radical things than Trump has ever said about White genocide and issues facing White People. And I didn’t support Musk because he’s also gone against us on key issues. Like, I remember over Christmas and New Year he went against us on the whole H1B Visa thing. Apparently White people don’t work hard enough when they need to mass import Indians into America to prop up the tech industry. Which just goes to show how Musk is a fraud, doesn’t really believe in anything seemingly. And he just kind of cares about his bottom line, ultimately. For all the ideological bravado and idealism that he presents when he goes on the Joe Rogan podcast or something, it seems like he’s at the end of the day, he’s a fucking capitalist, he’s a merchant and he’s a con man. He kind of acts like he’s like a libertarian who’s against excess government spending and all this kind of stuff, yet he’s like the biggest net beneficiary of government handouts in America.

 

So I think people have a lot less patience for him than for Trump, and Trump has the leverage. So if Musk doesn’t cuck to Trump and doubles down, I could see this being like a death spiral for Elon Musk potentially, which I’d love to see because number one, it’d be funny. And number two, a punished Elon Musk. He could end up doing interesting stuff that destabilises politics in a way that opens up opportunities perhaps for us. You know, it’s its kind of like a wild card. Like the world’s richest man also pissed off at the government with like no political allies. What does he do next? Probably something interesting.

 

So hopefully they don’t patch it up tomorrow and we just like see this feud like exacerbate because it would be it’d be interesting at the very least, but it could potentially result in more free speech on X rather than less, or something where he goes off the reservation. I don’t know, tries to win, win us back somehow by playing to us more.

 

46 Blair Thinks Musk Will Patch Things up with Trump

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Blair Cottrell: Maybe finally my like mid takes that aren’t even that extreme, me and those takes will be allowed back on X. Like out of everyone that got censored, you got to admit, censoring me was one of the most unfair moves.

 

I mean, I try to play by the rules, I try to be the nice guy, but as I’ve said previously in politics, like being the nice guy doesn’t really get you anywhere. Sometimes you got to be the bad guy.

 

But I think they’ll patch it up, man! I think they’ll come to some sort of agreement, because especially in. By what you’ve just described it’s in Musk’s interests to really try to get somewhere with this. Right. It’s not really wise for him to be in Trump’s bad books. But it also goes to show that a lot of the time, political donors don’t have as much power as a lot of people think they do they probably have a lot more power in Australia, [chuckling] but in America, maybe not so much. A lot of the time the people they’re backing can turn on them for various reasons because politics is a bit unpredictable like that.

 

Joel Davis: Well, it goes to show that maybe it’s like the Mossad getting you on video banging underage people or, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Right.

 

Joel Davis: Capturing your children and marrying your children into their bloodlines and things like that are probably more significant than just who writes the checks, like, on some level.

 

Blair Cottrell: And they figured that out eventually, didn’t they? Like, foreign intelligence agencies would have figured out that eventually that money on its own just isn’t enough. They need more leverage over these personalities in countries of interest. But whenever there’s a big split or disagreement between two powerful characters in a country of interest, then it’s a good opportunity for subversives to sort of jump onto the scene as well. And it may, in some cases be the result of the work of subversives. So there’s that to take into consideration for Trump and Musk.

 

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47 Trump’s ‘Big Dog’ Style of Treating Opponents

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Joel Davis: I hope that their egos get the better of them. Because one thing you notice about Trump is when he has leverage over someone, he flexes on them. Like, I remember when he was kind of staunching in the first administration, he was staunching Kim Jong Un, and he was calling him Little Rocket Man, and he was like:

 

“You’ve got little rockets, I’ve got big rockets. You know don’t fuck with me. Like, if you want to test them out, we’ll send out big rockets and blow up your little rockets!”

 

And then Kim Jong Un ended up inviting him to North Korea, and Trump is standing in the demilitarised zone in Korea, and he was doing the little bunny ears behind Kim Jong Un for all the cameras, just kind of ridiculing him.

 

Or like, when he had Zelensky in the White House, you know, he Was big dogging him in front of the cameras. Trump big dogs world leaders, all the time. He kind of stands over them and he shakes their hand all aggressive and like, pulls them in. He’s got this kind of like natural kind of like dominance aura that he uses to, obviously his advantage. He is successful in politics and business for a reason. He knows how to put himself about. And he’s a great shit talker. He’s always shit talking all of his fucking rivals.

 

Elon’s gone pretty scorched earth here! Elon’s going on Twitter and is accusing him of being a fucking paedophile! He’s going hard! Like, it’s not just like saying you disagree over this or that government policy. Like, he’s going full scorched earth, saying he wants to fund a new political party that can take on the Republicans. And like he retweeted Ian Miles Chong saying:

 

“Trump should be impeached for being on Epstein’s island and J.D. Vance should become president.”

 

And all this kind of shit! So he’s going pretty hard.

 

48 Trump’s Appeal to Conspiratorial Paranoia

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Blair Cottrell: Some of these relationships in politics, even amongst the world’s most powerful people are so fragile. What I was going to say is Trump is relentless. He knows how to appeal to the conspiratorial paranoia. Maybe it’s not paranoia, maybe it’s on point, but just the conspiratorial nature of a lot of his supporters. Like when he mentioned Elon’s black eye and before he was going on some show, he offered him some makeup to cover it up. And Elon didn’t want the makeup, which he thought was interesting. We all know what he’s insinuating there. There’s some weird theory about all of these celebrities that are in some sort of club and at one point they’ve all had black eyes, which may be part of some sort of ritual or initiation process. I don’t know. But maybe Trump doesn’t know either.

 

But the fact that he knows how to appeal to that strong nature of a lot of the people that support him, that’s interesting that he’ll, …

 

49 Trump is a High Level Freemason and is Supported by the Deep State

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Joel Davis: Trump is a high level Freemason. He knows the score. Yeah, he knows what’s happening. He’s in charge for a reason. People were saying:

 

“Oh, Joel! (idiots online) Oh, Joel! If the Deep State has been against Trump for years, if he really went to Epstein’s island, they would have released it!”

 

The Deep State are totally fine with Trump being the fucking President of the United States. You think he’d be able to just waltz into the presidency if the Deep State had an issue? Like, if you’re in my Telegram chat, how are you still operating on this Qtard, like surface level understanding, like, Trump is fucking part of the Deep State! He’s chosen by the Deep State, you fucking idiots!

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, well, why did they attack him, Joel? Why did they go so crazy attacking him during his first presidency then? How do you explain that? You know what it is? This is my take.

 

Joel Davis: Okay.

 

50 Blair’s View of Trump and the Deep State

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Blair Cottrell: Sometimes when you, as a subversive, when you’re into psych warfare, when you’re trying to create a fifth column, sleeper agents, you’re funding them, you’re setting them up. Sometimes when you breed a mad attack dog which has a lot of little weird attack dog puppies, those attack dogs can kind of run loose and it’s hard to get control of them. That’s what I think happened in America with that whole situation. I think there’s wild attack dogs that were just on the loose [chuckling] and it’s been hard to clean up the mess that they’ve made. That’s what I think that whole nonsense was.

 

Joel Davis: Think about it. They didn’t want Trump to win in 2020. They’re dropping Covid pandemics, which had other purposes other than that, obviously. They’re dropping BLM riots, they’re burning down the cities of America. They’re completely rigging the election. They’re launching crazy psyops. Right? This time they just stood down and let him win.

 

So obviously he was allowed to win! Obviously, they wanted him to win this time because things have changed. There’s a shift in strategy and there’s a recognition that he’s the guy for, …

 

51 Why Trump was Put Back In

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Blair Cottrell: It might be that they realised that it was inevitable that he would win, that., …

 

Joel Davis: No! It wasn’t inevitable! They could easily have just rigged it again. They actually undermined Biden too, and took him out before the election was even going to happen.

 

Blair Cottrell: I disagree. I disagree. I think they need to maintain, at least ostensibly, some semblance of legitimacy. They can’t just keep rigging every election, obviously. Right?

 

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Joel Davis: They didn’t though. I’m not saying this election was rigged, but what I’m saying is that they stood down, they didn’t obstruct him from winning this time because Israel got attacked. Biden wasn’t doing enough to protect Israel and the Democrats weren’t. Because the rise of China, issues with Russia. The American foreign policy was not working under the old paradigm. And there was a recognition that they needed to switch to a more realist framework that Trump was providing. Trump was going to provide the leadership that was going to bring people., … No one was signing up to the military anymore. We’re veering towards a potential World War III scenario, but no one wants to join the military. Need to wind the woke back, need to get Americans, you know, back behind their government, back behind their president, back into the military. Trump was just gloating today in a press conference with the German Chancellor Merz. They’re saying:

 

“Oh, it’s the 80th anniversary of D-Day.”

 

Or whatever. And he’s like:

 

“That wasn’t a good day for you, was it?”

 

And then Merz was like:

 

“No, well, no, it was a great day for us because you saved us from the Nazi dictatorship!”

 

And Trump’s like:

 

“Oh, yeah, of course!”

 

But Trump was saying you know, that the Germans need to do what he’s done to replenish their military, that no one wants to fight for Germany right now because they don’t have any spirit. He’s like:

 

“What we have done, we’re recruiting like crazy right now because we’ve brought the spirit back.”

 

And that’s obviously, the spirit comes, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, the spirit comes back to the Germans?

 

Joel Davis: There’s a recognition in the American Deep State that you need to have Trump running it to get the goys back on the team! White men are not playing for the team anymore. And they can’t run a global empire without the White guys running the companies running the military and so on. Rank and file. White men are the foundation of American power. And if you alienate them, America is no longer able to run the world. That’s why he was allowed to win!

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. But there’s people that play all sides, obviously, and if they predict or are able to understand that somebody’s rise is inevitable and can no longer be sort of, the floodgates have to come down and something needs to be allowed to happen, then it’s going to happen on their terms. Still, it’s a mistake to believe that there are sort of world players controlling literally everything in politics. Like, politics is a bit of a chaotic place and, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but this is national power plays in American politics. Like you could see before Israel was attacked on, was it October 7, 2023, Trump was behind Biden in the polls and was basically consistently behind Biden in all the polls for three years. Then as soon as, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you remember the polls before the 2016 Trump election? Was it 2015 or 2016? 2016, wasn’t it? The polls had Hillary at like 90% one week before the election.

 

52 The Role of October 7 and Trump

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Joel Davis: Yeah, because they miscalculated. But the thing is, the polls were accurate this time. And the polls were accurate this time. And what it showed was that basically after October 7th, then all of a sudden the media, the jewish media, start attacking Biden. Rather than covering Biden’s arse for being fucking, basically off with the fairies and senile, they stopped covering his arse and they started exposing him to scrutiny, because Biden wasn’t playing ball for Netanyahu in Israel. It was very clear to see. And then Trump started getting boosted.

 

They had Trump by the balls. They had him in court over so many different court cases, it was looking like they were going to throw him in prison. So he couldn’t even, I mean he could still run from prison technically, but he’s probably not going to win the presidency from a prison cell. They had Trump by the balls, and then all of a sudden Supreme Court decision bails him out! This is after October 7th and then boom! Like Trump comes back and you know, Elon Musk buys Twitter, gets behind him, all the big jew donors get behind him, hundreds of millions get dropped behind him and then it looks like Trump is inevitable and then everyone goes:

 

“Oh, yeah, Trump was always going to win!”

 

But no, I was following this for years. It looked like there’s no, Trump might have been the Republican nominee, it looked like Trump was going to be thrown in prison.

 

So they had Trump fucked and then they let him off. They let him win!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Well, I trust your judgement because I know that you follow American politics a lot more closely than I do. The awkward situation now though, it seems for America, but for the world, or especially probably starting with America as a balancing act that needs to be struck with American culture where some sort of re-nationalised spirit, as you put it, needs to be helped to resurface without the country becoming ethnically nationalist at the same time. Which I think is its easy to do that in America, isn’t it? Because America is so multi-ethnic, whereas it’s not so easy to do in other countries. And that’s the balancing act that I suppose the Trump administration is going to try to strike for various reasons. Obviously they need to recruit more soldiers, police, etc. So interesting to see how that pans out.

 

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53 Taking the Boot off the Neck of Whites

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Joel Davis: They’re obviously taking the boot off the neck of Whites and they’re throwing bones to Whites at the moment. The political elements that are more conservative, the obstructions have been taken out of their ways obviously, like Leftists are still against them for ideological reasons. But the dirty tricks that were being played before stop being played. They got out of the way. The key power players.

 

And then you start seeing Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, these guys were funding Biden and funding the election security efforts and so on in 2020 and all that kind of thing, censoring Trump off all their platforms and so on. They’re all at the inauguration, they’re all shaking hands with Trump this time. There was a total sea change in the attitude of these elites. And there’s a reason for that. It doesn’t just happen because “the people” decided that they wanted him to be president. The people didn’t really change their perspective at all! It was the elites that changed their perspective, from my stance. But yeah, anyway, it’ll be interesting to see what happens.

 

54 Joel Will Be on with Thomas777 Re Philosophical Anti-Semitism, etc.

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I see people saying:

 

“For real though, Joel is rocking the Thomas777 look!”

 

Well, actually I was just talking to Thomas earlier. I think Monday night Australian time, Monday morning American time. We’re going to do a, another collab. We’re going to talk about philosophical anti-semitism. We’re going to talk about Martin Heidegger. We’re going to get into the weeds of political philosophy and you know, NS philosophy and its precursors and so on. So it should be interesting stream for those who are looking for something a little bit intellectual. But our way inclined. Thomas is always an enjoyable collaborator. I’ve done a lot of podcasts with him over the years. He’s a good friend. So I’ll put up a link for that when the time comes. But yeah, like I said, Monday night, I think Monday morning America time.

 

People are saying that you were trying to speak but you’re muted.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I just realised that before. But that’s okay. I was just saying that it’s curious. Oh, it’s not really curious. It doesn’t even, it doesn’t need to be said. It’s fine. That’s why I didn’t even pick up on it.

 

Joel Davis: Oh, okay. I was looking at at something else. I wasn’t looking at the screen. Is there another, any other subjects for us to cover?

 

Blair Cottrell: No, I don’t think so. I’ve had a busy week so I only got a couple of days to actually spend or maybe a day and a half where I actually had time enough to post to my social media this week. But I’m going to look at spending a bit more time making some more clip content and putting some more stuff out there. So I’m looking forward to that.

 

But I think we, what do we do? We did the NSN banner drop at Northland Shopping Centre. We did the speculation around that, or not speculation, just discussion around the response. Then we did Elon versus Trump. What else has happened the last week? Is there anything else?

 

55 Thomas Sewell on the Ex-UFC Fighter Jake Shields Show

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Joel Davis: I don’t think of any like huge stories. I see Anthony Scalise saying:

 

“Joel, any information on the Jake Shields collab?”

 

Yeah, Tom recorded a podcast with Jake Shields on the Jake Shields Show this week. I don’t know exactly when that is going to be released but I think soon. So obviously it’s already been recorded. So that’s an interesting one.

 

Obviously I’ve been on Jake’s podcast before. He’s a friend. And yeah it’s great, it’s great that he’s has platform Ed not only me, but Tom as well. That he’s platforming Australian nationalists. You know, ex-UFC fighter. No, he’s not a Nazi. He’s not as radical as us, but he’s at least open to like hearing our perspective and platforming our perspective. And you know he’s always very critical of jewish power and he’s sympathetic towards pro-White politics. So you know, it’s nice to have a platform like that to break the siege. Obviously we’re under censorship, pretty heavy censorship. Tom and I and you, some of the most censored people in the world. Like we’re censored from fucking everything!

 

56 Still Banned from X Jew to Oz Government Pressure

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Blair Cottrell: So yeah, that’s what I was going to say. It’s like, I hope that Tom took the opportunity to try to put the message out there. And, I don’t know, maybe Jake can help put pressure on the right people to get us back on X. Because it sucks not being on X! It sucks not being part of the conversation around the world. You know, Telegram these days, Telegram was pretty big during Covid I remember a lot of people came to Telegram to get their news during the Covid era, the lockdowns and all that shit! But these days, everyone’s kind of moved on from Telegram. There’s still the kind of little small loyalist following that I have on there, but it’s just not the reach is nowhere near what it would be if we could get on X as well.

 

And as I just mentioned earlier, it’s a really unfair ban, I think. I mean, you look at the kind of stuff that’s posted on X, and especially the content I was putting out there, it wasn’t even that bad. It’s obviously like part of some contrived effort or pressure.

 

Joel Davis: The Australian government requested that we be banned.

 

Blair Cottrell: We don’t have any evidence of that, but it looks that way. It’s kind of obvious that that’s what happened because we all got taken down at the same time. All our appeals got ignored! We haven’t even had a single. I haven’t had a single reply. Have you had a reply from X staff?

 

Joel Davis: No! Usually when you get banned, they send you an email saying you’ve been banned. I didn’t even get that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Correct! I didn’t get that either. And I haven’t had a single, I’ve appealed a few times, haven’t had a single reply. They’re just like, fuck you! It’s like, what do I actually even do to get banned? Bullshit!

 

We were in the gym, Joel and I, just having a conversation, and some young guys overheard our conversation and they approached us and said:

 

“Hey, do you guys have social media? Where can we find you guys?”

 

And we had to tell them:

 

“Well, we’re kind of banned off everything. We have Rumble.”

 

They didn’t even know what Rumble was. And they said:

 

“Are you on X?”

 

And we said:

 

“No, we’re banned off X.”

 

And they laughed and said:

 

“How did you get banned off X?”

 

And I realised that to the standard person, X just seems to be a place where you can say whatever you want. So they’re like:

 

“Wow, what the hell did you post to get banned off X?”

 

They assume that you’ve posted something really bad, like gore or hectic shit that no one would want to see! But it wasn’t that. It was just because we are dissidents in Australia. It’s because the Australian government requested to X that we were banned. And it’s like, it made me realise how kind of like forced into the corner we are down here in Australia.

 

57 The Censorship is Preventing Them from Being a Sought After Voice in Oz

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And what’s most frustrating I reckon. I don’t know if this is like big noting myself, but I could say the same for Joel, I think. If it wasn’t for all the censorship, I’m quite confident that I would still be one of the most sought after voices for just general commentary in this country. Because the following I had before I was banned was massive! I used to get the same reach as Channel 9, 7 and 10 put together on Facebook, at least, when I was allowed to use Facebook back in the day. And I would have only grown from there. I get banned and then Avi Yemeni kind of takes my place and all the former audience I used to have just watch him because there’s no one else to watch anymore.

 

That’s the problem with censorship. Like, you get kind of like taken off the table or off the stage, screen, whatever, and some like bullshit jewish Israel shill takes your place and just talks some shit and sort of spells the audience and misleads them, takes their money for all sorts of nefarious purposes:

 

“Guys, I’m in the back of a police car. You need to donate to my legal fund right now!”

 

You know, it’s like the results of the censorship have been dreadful! And it works, doesn’t it? Censorship? It really does.

 

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58 Avi Yemeni Scamming His Supporters

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Joel Davis: How is he getting thrown? How’s he getting arrested? They don’t even take his phone off him. Like, get fucking! That’s obviously, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. You know what they did? I know this too. Like, I heard about this. I wouldn’t say this if it wasn’t true too. That video, I think it was a few years ago where Avi Yemeni claimed he had been arrested unfairly because he was just trying to report on something. It might have been a lockdown rally or something. He was in the back of a police car instantly demanding money for a legal fund because the police had arrested him. They literally just drove him down the street and just dropped him up the next suburb. They didn’t even really arrest him, they just took him down the road. And everyone who donated just got fleeced! Just got fucking scammed! And that’s so sad, man, that people are trying to do the right thing. They’re believing in something, they want to support someone who they believe is representing them. And that’s what happens. You just get some jewish Israel shill taking your money and laughing at you. That’s what Avi does. He takes people’s money and he laughs at them. So it’s a shame, but that’s the kind of that censorship has facilitated.

 

59 Despite Censorship Our Recognition in the Public is Growing

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Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, I mean, even despite the censorship, we still go insanely viral all the time. Like, I was talking to some family members of mine, I won’t say who, younger guys the other day, and one of them was like:

 

“Oh, Joel. All the kids at school were like, watching this video and then they were showing it to me and it was you talking about Hitler! And I was like, ‘that’s my cousin!’.”

 

And then my other cousin goes:

 

“Oh, yeah, that’s like I saw this other video of you talking about Hitler on TikTok the other day. It had like millions of likes.”

 

I was like:

 

“Okay, I don’t even know what video that is.”

 

But, I mean, that’s pretty funny. Like I hear people say that all the time. They saw me on Instagram, they saw me on TikTok. I don’t even have accounts on these platforms. It’s just other people reposting it.

 

So obviously, even despite the censorship that we have, by being organically interesting we’re still known out there. Every time I go out in Sydney or Melbourne, if I go out to the city for a drink or something, at least one person comes up to me and recognises me and says:

 

“Oh, hey, it’s great to meet you. Keep doing what you’re doing, if not more.”

 

We’ve become infamous in Australia, or maybe famous, you could say, even in Australia, despite everything, despite how we’ve been treated.

 

Blair Cottrell: So I know that you like to look at the glass half full, which is what you’re doing now, but I realised you are right, now that I think about it. When I said censorship works, it works at first! It works to sort of not nullify, but significantly reduce your reach, but only for a year or two. And then gradually, if you’re consistent and if you try to find every way around the censorship possible. Yeah, you do you become more infamous. You become even more sought after, I think.

 

And the longer and more aggressively you’re censored, the more consistent you are in response to that, the more infamous you can potentially become. So it’s kind of like that real cliche saying that tyranny actually just feeds tyrants and censorship is a form of modern tyranny, which in the long run actually just feeds more people into our audience basket.

 

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Joel Davis: Well, I don’t think so. I think if we had no censorship we’d have a much bigger viewership.

 

Blair Cottrell: Obviously it’d just grow faster. It just grow more organically. Right? But think of it like this. Think of it like a weed. I’m not saying that we’re like a weed, but that’s how the government views us. And they’re spraying us with poison. That’s what censorship is. And it, like, prevents us from growing, but it doesn’t kill us. We actually just start adapting to the poison and then they have to spray us with a lot more poison to get the same effect that they got previously. Then that poison doesn’t work. So they’ve got to go for some higher grade shit!

 

But all that’s actually happening is we’re adapting. We’re being forced to adapt the organism that we are to the circumstances imposed on us. That’s what censorship kind of forces you to do. I suppose.

 

60 Surviving the Censorship Because What We Have to Say is So Interesting

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Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

But I mean, the only reason that we’re able to get around, like, pretty much no one would be able to survive this level of censorship. The only reason that we can is because we’re just that interesting.

 

Blair Cottrell: And also very autistic. So we don’t really feel emotionally crushed by it. You know, it’s kind of like:

 

“Oh we got censored again. Okay.”

 

It’s like, [chuckling] you don’t really get disheartened by it, right?

 

61 Censorship Does Make It Hard to Recruit People Because They Don’t Know How to Join

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Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I think it’s more that we’re so motivated by our cause that we’re not going to stop.

 

But yeah, the main effect of censorship is actually this. Actually we managed to get out there and still be known and get talking points out there, get attention. But what’s difficult is recruiting people to our organisation because people will see a clip, people will see a news broadcast, they’ll see us, they’ll be aware that we exist. But they won’t really know:

 

“Okay, how do I go and like, join these guys or find out more?”

 

And if they go to look online to try and find out more, it’s hard to actually find the details. So that’s the main difficulty.

 

62 the System is Afraid of Us Recruiting Thousands of Men

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It’s that it’s actually preventing us from recruiting effectively and that’s obviously why they do it, because what they’re really afraid of, it’s not just us being popular, people watching our videos. What they’re really afraid of is us building a movement of thousands and thousands of men. That’s what they’re petrified of!

 

And so that’s what their efforts are all about. Whether it be the way, how heavily we’re policed to try and intimidate people out of getting involved in the movement whether it be the way they go after people try and like take away their livelihoods. Censorship, all of it centres around trying to create obstacles for us to recruit people where the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s truek.

 

Joel Davis: Making as difficult as possible to get a bunch of nationalists in the same room or the same place together.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s part of the government’s counter extremist efforts, which are, I’ve said previously, are just repurposed counterinsurgency.

 

The point is to prevent you from appealing to the public and then especially from recruiting from the public, or for recruiting from the public.

 

So what happens is if you’re a dissident, one that can potentially threaten the current regime, you get classed as an “extremist” and then you’re susceptible or targeted by counter extremist measures which include censorship, harassment ostracism from society, losing bank account, blah, blah, blah, the list goes on and on.

 

But as I’ve said, that’s not actually legal to do that in a democracy.

 

So eventually names, identities of people who are responsible for actually directing certain government agencies or setting up and being involved in government agencies that are doing that to Australian citizens, that are classifying them as extremists, basically stripping all their rights away and then just harassing and bullying them, preventing them from participating in society on a normal level. Eventually those people will be brought to justice.

 

63 Communists and Other Anti-Racist Activists Have Embedded Themselves Within Our Key Institutions

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Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! And that’s the thing, that’s what Australians don’t realise. There are communists and other anti-racist activists that have embedded themselves within our key institutions, not just at the academic level but at the policing level. And they’re engaging in political policing under the auspices of so-called “Counter Terrorism” measures. We’re not terrorists by any definition of that term. And even the head of ASIO has agreed with this multiple times under Senate scrutiny that we’re not terrorists and we can’t be classified as terrorists, we don’t engage in terroristic activity.

 

But then they go:

 

“But oh, you’re extremist!”

 

What is an extremist? I saw an old interview, actually, of you and Tom from way back in the day, Blair, on a Current Affair, talking about African crime actually, I think it was from like 2019 or something. And they accused you of being an extremist. And what Tom said was that:

 

“An extremist is just someone who takes an idea to its logical conclusion.”

 

And that’s literally all it is. It’s just taking an idea that seriously that you 100% believe in it, rather than being like these politicians who claim to have a whole set of different ideals but don’t take them to their logical conclusion, either because they don’t have the ideals, or because if you actually took them to their logical conclusion there’ll be very bad ideals. Like when it comes to, …

 

Blair Cottrell: But it depends on what the logical conclusion is, though.

 

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64 Because We Have Ideals They Call That “Extremism”

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Joel Davis: Yeah. But if you take Leftism to its logical conclusion, it would result in basically exterminating White people, like in a very aggressive way.

 

And if you took our ideas to their logical conclusion, it would basically restore Australia to being a great country, across every metric and make your life, if you’re a normal White person, so much better than it is right now. But that’s what we’re guilty of we’re just guilty of actually having ideals and they call that “extremism”.

 

So basically what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to make it illegal essentially for you to have Right-wing ideals, for you to take the ideals of nationalism to the logical conclusion. Now they don’t have Left-wing extremism. Even though there’s Left-wingers that are engaging in political violence on a frequent basis, who harbour genocidal hatred. They’re allowed to take their ideas to their logical conclusion. So it’s a complete double standard! It’s a totally arbitrary standard applied ideologically just to be persecute the ideological enemies of the regime, of the current ruling class. An ideology which the majority of Australians don’t subscribe to and are actually offended by. But nevertheless because they control the levers of power and because of mass apathy and a mixture of apathy and demoralisation and disorganisation, they’re able to get away with it for now.

 

65 the System Calling Us “Extremists” to Justify Their Own Lawfare and Extremism Against Us

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Blair Cottrell: Yeah. It’s why they come up with certain arbitrary terms in order to justify the sort of action that they take against dissidents such as extremists. Because lawfully extremist doesn’t mean the same as terrorists, does it? They know we’re not terrorists! They know I’m not a terrorist. They know you’re not a terrorist, as you said. The head of ASIO has publicly stated that these guys aren’t terrorists due to Senate inquiries or whatever the hell is going on there.

 

But they still need to try to justify the sort of measures that they take in order to prevent us from appealing or recruiting from the public. Appealing to or recruiting from the public, which, as I said is the whole point of counterinsurgency. So any sort of language, any sort of phraseology they can come up with to justify extreme censorship ostracism, bullying, bully tactics lawfare, all the sorts of stuff that we’ve experienced.

 

66 Blair Barred from a Tafe Course Because Minorities Might Be “Unsafe”

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Like, I can’t even go to a school. I think I went to a TAFE to try to do a Cert 4. You know what happened? The course leader, after about four weeks, told me that:

 

“I had to withdraw from the course because my identity had been discovered and minority students in the classroom may be exposed to an unsafe learning environment.”

 

It’s [chuckling] like just because my name’s Blair Cottrell! That’s why I’m not allowed to go to a TAFE in Australia right now, in democracy. And they know that I’m not going to hurt anyone. They know that I don’t have a history of that kind of thing in politics. But that’s not what’s important. What’s important is how they can come up with the sort of language and phraseology to justify pushing me out of society! To make sure that I never appeal to anyone! Because my ideas are dangerous for the current system. The way the system is currently set up.

 

But yeah, it’s a system that needs to change.

 

67 Superchats

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Joel Davis: Well, while you fix that microphone [Blair bumped it], I think we’ll get into the Superchats. You can send a Superchat on Rumble. I don’t think you can send them on Odysee anymore. You can send them only on Rumble or on EntropyStream dot Live slash Joel Davis.

 

Anyway, we’ve got a few here already. One from Calmius saying:

 

“Blair, what’s the story of your beanie?”

 

Blair Cottrell: It was given to me by someone I knew quite a while ago. I don’t know if it was handmade. I can’t remember. But it’s so absurd that I tend not to wear it in public. This is something that I put on, … Can you guys hear me? Okay? I had to plug my microphone back In. I knocked it off the stand. Can you hear it?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Same as before. I don’t know if it’s been picked up. Yeah.

 

But yeah, there’s not a great story behind it. It’s just an orange beanie with. What do you call this? Do you call that a pom. A pom pom? [chuckling] I don’t know what that is.

 

Yeah. But I just, I’ve stopped caring so much about how I look and so I don’t really care. I’m just wearing it because it was cold tonight. I don’t know what you want me to say. It’s just a beanie, bro.

 

Joel Davis: It’s all that deep.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Rygo Weber said:

 

“Once again, great show guys. What do you think about the Trump and Elon spat?”

 

Well, we already got into that. So you don’t really need to answer it again. If you watch the show, we discussed it for like 20 minutes. Comfy Friend said:

 

“Great show!”

 

And shout out to Comfy Friend broadcasting the show on his X. Much appreciated. Zero seven to all the Comfy Friend viewers this evening. Of course the show’s on Rumble. It’s on Odysee and back on X for now.

 

So thanks for that man. I appreciate it. He does a good job shilling our shit collectively on X with all of us banned.

 

So you can follow Comfy Friend on X to still get your dose of NSN. Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell, Tom Sewell content. Jacob Hersant content as well:

 

“You will never have children!”

 

Spiteful mutant supporter said:

 

“Capitalism has made it this way. Old fashioned fascism will take it away.”

 

68 Superchat – Left Wing and Right Wing Views on Capitalism

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Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I always get a little bit awkward when someone just blames everything on capitalism. It seems like an oversimplification to me. What do you think, Joel?

 

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Joel Davis: I mean, yeah, but it’s definitely a dynamic. I mean but there’s a distinction between I think like a Left-wing and a Right-wing criticism of capitalism. So generally Left-wing criticisms of capitalism have to do with exploitation. This idea that, oh there’s all these fat cats that are making all this money at the expense of everyone. And basically the implication is that if we could just somehow like divide up the benefits more equitably that it would be okay.

 

Obviously there’s other Left-wing critiques, like you know, the idea that commodification is culturally destructive or environmentally destructive, but that they would share with like Right-wing critiques of capitalism.

 

But, a more Right-wing critique of capitalism would be double pronged. One that capitalism as a structure elevates the wrong kind of people into political leadership. So under like a feudal society where you had like an aristocracy, the selection pressures on leaders were different and we had basically warriors, men who fought with honour who passed down their titles intergenerationally and raised their children through good breeding but also through good rearing to become, to develop a kind of honour based, you know, moral code and to rule with an honour based, you know, warrior code. And therefore that created a more virtuous society.

 

Where under capitalism you have all these merchants that simply gain political power because they made a lot of money. And the attributes that make you successful in business don’t necessarily make you an honourable man and therefore you don’t have an honourable government. That’s like a Right-wing critique of capitalism.

 

Or another Right-wing critique of capitalism would be that the process of commercialisation is destructive to folkways, to culture. That when everything becomes commodified and you have this kind of global marketplace that it breaks down the local traditions and forms of identity and globalises and abstracts everything out into this like universal, into like universal individual units. And we basically lose all connection with who we really are. And as a result our moral and cultural fabric like disintegrates. I think I agree with these criticisms. And that doesn’t mean that we should, become communists, obviously! There’s a false dichotomy between capitalist and communist.

 

The alternative is not necessarily to abolish money or abolish property or something. That’s not the issue. The issue with capitalism is in that some people are rich and some people are poor. The issue are these other things. It’s about how do you create a political system that basically ensures that virtuous honourable men maintain leadership and rule and hold other elements to account that everything doesn’t get relativised in terms of “what’s good for business”. And secondarily, how do you preserve the culture of your people from being liquidated into this global marketplace? How do you stop commodification and preserve some kind of sacredness and tradition?

 

And obviously National Socialism, political ideology tries to do this,

 

69 Francis Yockey’s Description of Socialism Versus Capitalism in His Book Imperium

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Blair Cottrell: Mandatory military service. You can start with that. And no one holds office without having done their military service and have achieved a certain rank perhaps. I reckon that’s a good start.

 

But I like Francis Yockey’s description of socialism versus capitalism in his book Imperium, where he basically insinuates that capitalism represents one aspect of human nature and so it’s impossible to actually eliminate it because it represents the selfish motivation which is half the reason anyone ever does anything. If you make it so people can’t actually advance their own interests, then you kill the incentive to actually do anything. Because no one wants to do anything if it’s purely just in the interests of the community and not themselves. Because as humans we have to see some sort of benefit, individual benefit in things that we do.

 

He summarises that capitalism means basically every man for himself, whereas the opposing view, socialism, the opposing economic system of socialism, is the other form of human nature, which is to do things for the advancement of the community in spite of oneself sometimes, which again can be half the reason we’re doing things at the same time. So I like that summary because it’s more personable. It sort of gets more into the nature of people and the compulsion, the motivation that goes beyond just economics and financial considerations of why people do things.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Like we talk about the problems with individualism but at the same time also value liberty. Like anyone, I think like most people, most Anglo Saxons. I don’t like excessive bureaucracy and over regulation of everything. I like for normal people to be largely left alone to their own devices, to choose their own destinies up to a level. Obviously you need to put hard limits on that. But where possible, it’s good to basically bias towards freedom and have to justify it away rather than the reverse.

 

But having said that, like liberalism as an ideological framework has been obviously disastrous for our people. So it needs to be attacked at its root. And people have to come before our individual freedom ultimately.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. I was about to say that. I think politically we need to be more socialist than we are capitalists because the more socialist you are, the more you’re considering the effect on the broader community and the future generations rather than just how you are benefiting now in the moment or how you’re affected by anything happening in the moment.

 

And obviously if you’re dealing with the future of a country, you need to be more socialist in your considerations. And that’s all socialism actually means at the end of the day is considering how anything may affect the greater ethnic community. The problem with communism though is it doesn’t really consider socialism from an ethnic perspective. It doesn’t consider the group as, …

 

Joel Davis: Universal humanity.

 

Blair Cottrell: Correct. It’s universal and it’s also class based which is just like a different form of looking at humanity on a universal basis.

 

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70 Marx and the Destruction of Classes

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Joel Davis: Yeah. The reason why Marx identifies the proletariat as the revolutionary subject of history is not because he wants them to stay the proletariat, but because the proletariat, the working class, is being exploited by capitalism. He sees it as the vehicle to the destruction of classes.

 

So the ideal of Marxism is to abolish class and to end in a kind of, in like a universal humanity where we’re all on the same level. Like it’s about destroying the category of bourgeoisie, entirely. It doesn’t have this like perennial mindset that there’ll always be workers versus capitalists that will go on forever. Like obviously the idealist from the Marxist standpoint is to overthrow it.

 

But, whereas I think our view from the Right because we’re realists is more that like what you were saying before, that the forces that are imbued within capitalism they’re part of human nature and that they’ll always have some kind of representation within society. And it’s about trying to get the balance right. You’re never going to be able to ultimately decide on one or the other extreme. That’s kind of irrational utopianism.

 

But instead you kind of have to just take human nature for what it is and try and balance these forces as best you can. That’s a more Right-wing perspective.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that’s right. That’s definitely the attitude that’s the position I would take right now based on my understanding.

 

71 Superchat: is Techno Trance and EDM the Most Aryan Music Around?

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Joel Davis: Mhm. All right. Superchat Aussie Artist 88 said:

 

“Blair bro, is techno trance and EDM the most Aryan music around? It’s the natural evolution of the Germanic spirit. Fast paced and yet spiritual. What’s your opinion?”

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve never thought of it that way, but maybe that’s a really interesting perspective. I can tell you no other genre of music makes me feel what I feel when I listen to really good trance and electronic dance music. Like that stuff just invigorates me in a way that’s difficult to explain through words. So it’s very possible. I do feel like it hits me on another level. One that’s hard to express. What do you think, Joel? You’re into your music a little bit, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think, I mean the most Aryan music, I mean you’ve got classical music, you’ve got like heavy metal, all the different sub genres of metal. You’ve got electronic music. You know, they’re all different like phases in technology. Like Wagner couldn’t have started a metal band because electric guitars didn’t exist yet, you know. And then I don’t know, Slayer, I mean obviously there was like synthesisers and stuff, but they didn’t have like the apparatus that you use to make electronic music wasn’t fully developed yet and it’s produces different genres. So it’s like when Aryans are dealing with electronic instruments, they make a certain kind of music. When they’re dealing with electric instruments, they make another kind of music. When they’re dealing with pre-electric instruments, they make another kind of music. You know, that’s how I see it. I don’t think it makes sense to like try and argue, one is more airing than the other. It’s like all of them are expressions of our spirit. All of them are expressions of our racial nature.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think someone just really appreciates like trance music. I can say this. A thought occurred to me as I was listening to Joel just then that I think a lot of trance music, if you listen or pay attention to the structure of how the track develops, it’s basically, and I’m not trying to be vulgar with this is a very objective analysis. It’s how sex would sound to the soul. It’s almost like the process of sex put into audio form, if you understand what I mean. Like, I don’t know how to explain it exactly, but there’s like that build up or the process.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, kind of orgasmic quality.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. Reaching that climax point and then the climax point hits and it hits really hard. And that is the sort of pinnacle of the track. Just like that is the pinnacle of the experience that you have through sex. I think maybe that’s why it makes us feel a certain way that other music can’t really.

 

Joel Davis: But yeah, there’s an ecstatic, there’s an ecstatic quality to it. That’s what’s appealing about it. I think that ecstatic quality is can also be found in psychedelic forms of guitar based music as well.

 

But yeah, it definitely comes through. And the lines get blurred sometimes between electronic instruments and those kinds of genres as well, particularly in recent decades. Like the kind of like music that’s categorised as goth in that spectrum, for example, often blurs the lines between those categories.

 

But yeah, I enjoy all, basically all of those genres of music. I’m glad that they all exist. They all represent different emotions. Like metal is like more epic! It’s kind of like music of like war and aggression and intensity and horror and all those kinds of spectrum of emotions. And you’ve got like gothic and alternative rock genres that have kind of romantic quality to them but they also have psychedelic quality. And then electronic music is like m can often be more ecstatic! Yeah.

 

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72 Music Can “Spell” Us in the Same Way as a Good Speech

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Blair Cottrell: Isn’t it true that music can spell us in the same way that a good speech can? It’s a similar type of magic or has a similar type of effects on people. And I realised that young.

 

And one of my secrets when I was learning about public speaking was I used to study certain songs that would make me feel a certain way. And I thought:

 

“Wow, maybe I can create a speech or practise roughly the way I can deliver a speech, or a method through which I can deliver a speech where I can incorporate the same melody, or a similar melody to what I’m hearing in this song and put that melody into the words I’m speaking.”

 

So I think, there’s something to be said about that and there’s probably some sort of underground science where you can get into that and study it. I didn’t really get into anything underground but I just made the connection as a result of my own, you know, learning when I was a bit younger.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well music is the language of the soul. You know, it has like the ability to say things that words can’t. Or maybe words can say it but they can’t really convey it in the same way that that music can because it’s more, viscerally emotive.

 

This is why I think like Schopenhauer’s view on music is utterly retarded! Because for Schopenhauer music was supposed to be like a method by which we could disconnect, from like the life force and disconnect from like the drives and will embedded in the body and achieve some kind of like mystical, you know, disinterested union with the absolute or whatever. And I find generally what’s great about music is precisely the opposite. That music is the life force made manifest in its most potent form. I guess on that side I would side with Nietzsche against Schopenhauer*.

 

[*Nietzsche criticised Schopenhauer’s pessimistic view of life and suffering, advocating instead for an artistic and affirmative approach to existence. He believed that embracing suffering could lead to personal growth and strength, contrasting with Schopenhauer’s call for resignation and detachment from desires.]

 

73 Sargon of Akkad Having an Event in Australia

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But yeah, anyway, Skinhead Friend said:

 

“Have you seen Tom Roussell, also known as Survive the Jive and Sargoy of Akkad are speaking in Australia later this year. Sargoy is getting more based lately and Survive the Jive has always been solid.”

 

Yeah, I did see that. There is an event. I think they’re almost sold out. They only had 100 tickets for sale and they were selling them for like a thousand bucks each or something. So meant to be like an exclusive event.

 

Blair Cottrell: Isn’t it Sargon of Akkad. Why is he Sargoy of Akkad?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, that’s obviously a joke. Yeah, people used to call him Sargoy of Mossad well back in the day. Sargoy of Mossad. It’s pretty funny.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why is he called that though? Is it speculated, has he been accused?

 

Joel Davis: Well, back in the day, lately he has been better. But back in the day he was a big defender of classical liberalism. He always get into debates with people from the so-called Alt-Right. There was one really famous debate that he had with Richard Spencer back in the day, like 2018 era, something like that. Maybe 2017. I can’t remember the exact year, but it was back in that era. And, yeah, he was kind on the other side of the fence.

 

Whereas lately he’s kind of come more around. Not all the way, but he’s come a lot closer to like defending ethno-nationalism. Like he’ll defend ethno-nationalism like 90% now.

 

So yeah, I don’t think that he’s like an agent of the jews or something. I think he’s just a temperamental conservative. He’s a bit cucked because he’s just a temperamental conservative. But some of the people that he platforms on his Lotus Eater podcast platform that he runs, some of them aren’t bad, some of them kind of suck. Some of them are pretty good. Young, kind of like blonde Aryan English guys who are obviously our guys. A few of them, I won’t name names but you know, had some good interactions with some of them on Twitter over the years before I was banned.

 

So yeah, I don’t have anything against him. He seems like a nice guy. I think he I think his heart’s in the right place, but he’s just a little bit cucked, obviously, for my liking, but he’s all right.

 

As for Survive the Jive, he does good stuff. I’ve always enjoyed his YouTube channel. Have you ever seen his YouTube videos? He talks a lot about you know, Anglo and Germanic and Nordic history and ancient Paganism, things like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: A little bit. Yeah. A little bit. I was gonna say that. Seems like the boys have been successful on the bullying front with a Sargoy of Akkad. [chuckling] You know, with all the names and the pressure. It’s funny to see stuff like that build on some content creators and influencers who are obviously very in love. Not in love they’re very attached to their online Persona, whatever it is that they’ve created for themselves. They’ve managed to dodge the censorship and try to be reasonable or whatever, but through just chipping away through effective bully measures, the boys just managed to shove them in the right direction, gradually!

 

Joel Davis: I saw people complaining that they got banned from my Telegram chat. Look, I got a lot of moderators. It probably wasn’t me, but I’ll tell you this. If you send a Superchat with your Telegram app, I’ll unban it. That’s the deal. It’s a guarantee you can buy your way back in!

 

Blair Cottrell: Joel!

 

Joel Davis: There you go.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m surprised. I didn’t think Joel would be so easily sway with money.

 

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Joel Davis: But if you post garbage, you might get banned again. So watch yourself. It doesn’t guarantee you a permanent residency, but you can buy a second chance. At The Joel and Blair Show, we believe in second chances.

 

Soul Vinda said:

 

“Amazing aesthetics on that NSN edit. This is the spirit that will win over the motivated youth.”

 

Yeah, it was a sick edit. I think it might have been Gus who made it. I don’t know who made it, but I’m feeling it was Gus. Yeah, but it was a sick edit. Did you like it? Were you just blowing smoke up its arse because it was on the show? Be honest. Do you think it sucks?

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, no man! Did you see me dancing to it? That was shit was hype! Loved it. If it was Gus that made it, salute, bro! Excellent work! Some of these young guys are great on the edits. Yeah. I wouldn’t even know how they do it, to be honest. I used to think I was pretty good at editing and I can edit, like, videos, basic edits, but I wouldn’t even know how to produce shit like that these days. So it’s good stuff. It’s impressive.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t do that you should know me better than that. I don’t blow smoke up people’s asses. If you’re hearing me say something nice, it’s genuine, man! I don’t throw around false compliments. I always just try to find something about people I can appreciate. So that’s why sometimes I can come across as probably too nice. But no, yeah, I really did like the video.

 

74 Getting Around Censorship with Uploading Clips, Edits

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Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I think Anderson puts out cool, cool edits. And yeah, that’s what you need.

 

By the way, those of you who are on TikTok, Instagram, whatever, Twitter, re-upload the edits and go find the old ones as well and spam them out there. Obviously we want you uploading clips from the show as well and other things, but get those hyper edits out there. Get, get some eyes on them! Put them particularly on places like TikTok and Instagram, where they’re gonna have more chance of going viral.

 

We’re just talking about censorship before. The main reason that we can get around censorship is part of it is through being provocative and interesting. But another massive component of it is you guys. You guys that are re-uploading content, clipping content, things like that, to make sure that even though we’re banned, the content lives on.

 

So I appreciate it. It’s one way that you can help the movement. Very easy way to help the movement is simply that.

 

Crafty Boom said:

 

“Lead the way, men. Let’s go!”

 

And Testy Testerson said:

 

“Buy a few beers on me.”

 

I see also on Entropy, Deer in the Headlights said:

 

“Carry on, gentlemen, you’re doing great work!”

 

And Shovelhead Amy said:

 

“Thanks for what you’re doing. From an avid listener here in Antario, Canada. People are paying attention.”

 

I should have said Ontario, sorry.

 

75 On Canadians and Australians

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Blair Cottrell: What is with Canadians? Why do we vibe so hard with Canadians? What’s going on there? I think we’ve covered this on last couple of shows. I just keep seeing Canadians pop up all the time. And my heart goes out to Canada. They seem to be going through similar struggles and we seem to have, I don’t know, some sort of similarity between us Aussies and Canadians. They appreciate us and I appreciate them. So thanks, Canada. Thanks for watching.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but she said:

 

“From a true toque lover. Those are great toques.”

 

I wonder what a fucking “toque” is?:

 

“The consistency and level headedness that you men display is what people are Sorely craving. And I find it amusing that you call them beanies. It’s a toque. Toque is what we call them.”

 

Yeah, well we’re not fucking Canadians, so we call them beanies.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what I thought? Toke, man! You know what I thought toke, meant? I thought it was a take, but it was like a take from someone that was like high on something.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you give a bong head. Like “give us a toke”, that kind of thing. Yeah, no, we love Canadians. Canadians are kind of like nice versions of us. I think. They’re like, if Australians were nice.

 

Blair Cottrell: But the fact Canadians like us shows that perhaps they feel, I don’t know, there’s some deep appreciation for our nature and humour. So maybe they’re not as nice as they ostensibly seem or have a reputation for being. Maybe they have this like contained, …

 

Joel Davis: Unless they’re French-Canadians, they’re from the same stock. So I think they just kind of, they kind of understand us. They can, they have a similar national story. They come from the same root populations and so because of that ethnic connection, I think they can kind of understand where Australians are coming from, generally.

 

Blair Cottrell: Would you agree they’re very sensible people. Canadians always seem to be well spoken, I mean it’s not always going to be the case. It’s going to be outliers. But all the Canadians that I know of, they’re well spoken, presentable, sensible, intelligent people. They’re always easy to respect.

 

76 Canadians and Scandinavians Are Too “Nice”. It’s Time to Get Savage

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Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, you’ve kind of blown smoke up their arse a little bit now. They’re all right, they’re okay. They’re ookayy! Or whatever the fuck they say. I wish Canadians said “cunt” more! That’s my main critique of Canadians. I think there’s not enough vulgarity, not enough aggression. They’re too nice! It offends me as an Australian a little bit.

 

You know you see them, they got ice hockey going on, an aggressive national sport. If you look at their history, they’ve been great, they’ve got an incredible military history. They’re savages in their military history. Great, great victories in battle over the decades. So they’re obviously like, tough.

 

So I feel like they’re almost too nice. They’re kind of, almost like they let themselves be taken advantage of its like the great shame. Like it’s similar with Scandinavians, Scandinavians are so nice. And it’s a beautiful thing because that makes for a great society because if they’re living in a society full of their own kin, that pleasant nature, is fantastic!

 

But then under the current situation, it’s like, time to get mean! It’s time to get savage!

 

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Blair Cottrell: You know, we must glorify hostility to outsiders. Hostility to outsiders must become a noble virtue, one expected of all of our kin.

 

Joel Davis: Mhm. Yes, it’s time to get mean Canadians! But Australia, I mean our issue is not so much that we’re too nice, it’s more that we’re too apathetic. We don’t care enough. That’s our problem, I think.

 

77 Superchat – Tips for Educating the Ladies on Our Politics?

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Blair Cottrell: Too cynical as well. Most Aussies think:

 

“It’s all going to go to shit anyway. And yeah nothing ever changes, so why bother?”

 

There’s a bit of cynicism there. But Aaron, 32, just sent through 10 bucks and he asked an interesting question. Joel, he asks:

 

“Any tips for educating the ladies on our politics? HH!”

 

I’m of the opinion you can’t really or shouldn’t bother too much. How should I phrase this? I found there’s no real use ranting about politics or trying to educate any woman on your political views. I mean, you can talk to a woman about politics if she really wants to talk about that. But generally speaking, it’s better to just lead by example. It’s better to take care of yourself, demonstrate that you can take care of yourself, be in good health, be smart, be able to provide something of value to the woman that she can see value in. I don’t know, it’s like I’ve never really seen much point in talking to women about politics, put it that way. It’s like not something that I’ve done a great deal because I see that they’re just not that interested. They’re usually interested in talking about other things.

 

And I talk about, think about politics all the time. It’s like I’m always inside my own head about it. And I network with and deal with people for political purposes all the time as well. It’s probably my primary interest still in life. And so at the end of the day, I don’t want to go home and sit with my girlfriend and talk about politics as well. I want to remove myself from that world. And I see women as being kind of outside of the world of politics. Almost like a period of relief from politics. That’s how I feel about it. What do you reckon?

 

Joel Davis: Personally, I never stop talking about the subjects that matter to me. So women are subjected to those same subjects. And usually if a woman likes me, then they want to hear about it anyway because they just kind of like hearing you mansplain. But it’s a distinction, I guess, between talking to women who don’t already like, want to have sex with you or are having sex with you, and talking like general women in the community. Because if a woman is into you, then she’ll just kind of go along like she’s probably go along with having a discussion about whatever you want to talk about because obviously you’ve got a close relationship. So I don’t think you really need advice on that. Just like, just talk about what you think.

 

But when it comes to general women, like out in the community, I think women respond better to putting things in the language of care. So talk about you know, talk about kind of like the Righteous reasons why certain people you care about are getting fucking over. Whether it be your family’s future, whether it be victims of immigrant crime, whatever, White people collectively, whatever. And talk about how you care about these groups and how that’s what motivates you and so on. I think that can bring you come across a lot more sympathetically and I think put it to them. If they challenge you, say:

 

“What about what this person has suffered? Or what about this group of people? Don’t they deserve this? Don’t they deserve that?”

 

Usually this kind of framing is more persuasive, I think, to the feminine psyche. Because the feminine psyche processes, you know, social realities more through that prism than maybe how you would talk about it with men. So I don’t know. That’s based my basic take. I mean, it’s kind of obvious, right? But it’s true.

 

Blair Cottrell: A woman just needs to be ethnically aware. Ethnically aware is kind of like bare minimum. If a woman is not ethnically aware, at least, it’s like I can’t even be bothered. I can’t be bothered even having a conversation with her about anything. Because women should have good instincts. It’s of the female nature to be in tune with one’s instinct rather than be intellectualising everything and being sort of consciously processing what they’re observing through their senses. Women are very instinctual creatures. And if a woman can’t even be in touch with their own ethnic identity. If she can’t even acknowledge it or feel connected to that, then it’s like too far gone, man! [chuckling] I just can’t deal with that.

 

Joel Davis: So I think women are also receptive to when, if you talk about like the issues with race mixing and like the desire to have children that, maintain your ancestry and that have certain traits that you have or that your family has, …

 

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Blair Cottrell: Even the anti-racist ones, even the woman women who masquerade as anti-racists, as soon as you bring up the inheritance of certain ethnic traits that they possess, like they’re always very interested in children looking like them. Usually they’re interested in passing on their blue eyes or their blond hair. They want to do that! Which just goes to show their instinct always trumps whatever they say they believe, which is what I was trying to get at before. The words women speak is never as powerful or as effective or influential over their actions as their instinct.

 

78 Superchat – My Lefty Girlfriend Told Me That She Hates Jews

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Joel Davis: Yeah, no, I mean that’s definitely the case.

 

Anyway, Rigo Weber said:

 

“I just told my girlfriend that I’m currently looking into the true history of Hitler and the jews. And to my surprise, she told me that she hates jews. I found this surprising. And she’s always been a real Lefty.”

 

Well it’s not that surprising that Lefties are developing anti-semitic attitudes. I mean, generally Lefties they hate Israel. If they hate capitalism, they probably have noticed that a lot of these capitalists are jewish. There’s something jewish about capitalism, about international finance, etc.

 

So yeah, there’s certain demographics of people where it’s easier to talk to them about jews than it is to talk to them about race. And there’s other demographics where it’s easier to talk to them about race than about jews. And usually people that are more conservative, it’s easier to get to talk to them about race than it is about jews. And it’s easier inverse of people that are more of a Left-wing bias.

 

So yeah, that doesn’t surprise me. But yeah, I mean, if it’s your girlfriend, she’s gonna, even if she doesn’t agree with you, she’s gonna be open with you and like, she’s gonna trust you enough to say things that she wouldn’t say in polite company. Or she’ll like, hear you out, obviously, so you can be a lot more frank. You shouldn’t be afraid of being able to talk about how you really feel with your own girlfriend. That’s kind of fucked up!

 

79 Blair and Joel’s Interactions with Women

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Blair Cottrell: I’ve never known a girl who’s like, strongly disagreed with me on anything. I’ve never been in an interaction with a female where we’ve argued about something like some social ideal, political idea, philosophy, nothing! I think when women like you, they tend to be more accepting of whatever it is you’re saying. They mimic your ideas. It’s always been really difficult for me to actually argue with a woman. I don’t even want to! Maybe that’s why. I don’t know.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. I think usually I’ve always dated women who have similar political proclivities. Like, may not be like full Nazis or whatever, but they’ve always been pretty, like, Right-wing and so haven’t been offended by my views on things and then being exposed to me. Anyone who’s exposed to me on a long enough timeline basically becomes a Nazi.

 

So, yeah, whether I’m having sex or not.

 

Blair Cottrell: Have you ever just asked people basic questions and watch them become frustrated by actually thinking about the answer to your question and realising how stupid it sounds?

 

Like, for example, you might be talking to some girl and she’s trying to tell you about how climate change is going to destroy the world or something. And you’ll ask her a simple question like:

 

“Okay, where did you get that information?”

 

And she’d be like:

 

“Oh, well, I was in university and this, like Professor told me.”

 

Or as part of some course or something like that. Okay:

 

“Well, where did that information come from, though? Where did they get it from?”

 

And they don’t actually, a lot of the time, like, as you just develop that line of questioning they get frustrated because they realise that it’s actually unreasonable to believe what they believe based on the sources that have, like, pass down that information to them because they can’t actually verify the sources. And by just asking them to explore those sources for a moment, they become visibly frustrated. Have you experienced that?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Like, so usually what has happened when I’ve been in social situations where there’s like, Leftist women, is they just kind of like start crying and then go to the bathroom or something. Or just basically act like as if I just did this horrible thing to them and then try and like act like a victim and then hope that someone like cucks out and sympathises with them because they’re not equipped to actually engage me in debate or critical discussion. That’s pretty much what happens every single time. So I think I have intimidating aura when it comes to debating. People don’t really like debating me.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh yeah! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: I don’t get people who are like political to debate me at this point. Like no one wants to debate me, so.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, everyone has their strengths and yours is arguing a point. And you know any person in touch with some semblance of common sense knows that there are some armies not to engage, there are some battles not to fight.

 

And one of the battles not to fight in my opinion is entering into open debate with Joel Davis! [chuckling] Yeah, everyone’s good at something.

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, we’ve been going for two and a half hours.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, yeah.

 

80 Update on Tom Sewell’s Court Case – Prosecution Will Drop Case If Doesn’t Claim Legal Fees

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Joel Davis: I hope everyone enjoyed the show. Like I said, Monday night our time late Monday night I’ll do a one off stream with Thomas777. By the way, update. Tom Sewell he had caught this week on Thursday another pre-trial conference, and it got basically adjourned for another week. Because basically what happened is that the prosecution offered to drop the charges against Tom if he wouldn’t pursue them for legal costs. So they were like we wouldn’t want to pay your lawyer fees for all us dicking you around for the last four months but we’re willing to drop the charge. Meaning like obviously he didn’t do it. And, he was like:

 

“No, you’re going to pay my legal fees, or you can’t like drop the charge, make me pay lawyer fees and then not front up for it.”

 

And so now the prosecution needs another week apparently to figure out whether it wants to pay his legal fees or not so what a joke, the legal process can be! But hopefully that resolves itself soon and we’ll have Tom on the show again soon.

 

81 Jacob Hersant Has Court Re Appealing His Roman Salute Sentence

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Also Jacob Hersant has court this week. I can’t remember which day. Do you remember the dates?

 

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Blair Cottrell: What dates?

 

Joel Davis: Hersant has court next week.

 

Blair Cottrell: I thought you were going to say has “caught something”. Not has like “court”, legal.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no, no! He was sentenced to one month in prison for the Roman salute but then appealed it to the county court. The county court is going to conduct the trial this coming week.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know.

 

Joel Davis: I think it might come on the 10th, but we’ll update you.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know, you’ll have to ask him.

 

Joel Davis: I’m going to go down there, at least one of the days, it’s like a three day trial, so I’m probably not going to sit through all three days of the trial. But I’m going to go down there and suss out what’s going on and give Jacob some support. And, we’ll cover it and we’ll report to you what’s happening. So that should be interesting if he wins or not. Obviously it’s a constitutional case as well. So that makes it doubly interesting. It’s challenging the Constitutionality of the act itself.

 

So that’s all happening this week. So there’s going to be some interesting kind of legal wranglings through next week for Tom and Jacob. And we’ll, yeah, probably cover that next week on the show. Plus whatever else is going down. There’s always something interesting. It never stops.

 

Thank God! We continuously make news because there really isn’t that much news in Australian politics.

 

Blair Cottrell: You imagine how boring, …

 

Joel Davis: Imagine if we had to log in and talk about how:

 

“Oh, Gerard Rennick was talking shit about Pauline Hanson on Twitter this week. Oh, wow!”

 

Blair Cottrell: How boring would Australian politics be if there was no NSN [National Socialist Network]? There’s been nothing happening! You just have your Sky News shills. I don’t even want to imagine it. I’m thankful for the current political situation, for you guys doing what you do. It makes things very interesting. Keeps pushing boundaries, which I’ve always been sympathetic to that kind of activity. Yeah.

 

Thanks for joining us guys. It’s been a cosy night. It’s been a good stream. We’ve gone for a little longer than we usually do, and I guess we’ll see you guys next week, right?

 

Is there anything else, Joel, before we finish up?

 

82 On the Physical Characteristics of Some Nationalists

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Joel Davis: No. I see people are arguing in the chat. Megawatts says:

 

“I’m 190 centimetres built built beast. But I don’t seem like it from the face.”

 

But then Skinhead Friend said:

 

“I’m only three metres tall. So it’s like the opposite of an Anglo king you see, on the battlefield, Joel is taller IRL than in lore.”

 

Anyway, it’s kind of humourous, it’s ambiguous.

 

Blair Cottrell: Joel’s this weird blend between nerd and Chad, I don’t know, he’s like multifaceted, personality. But you get some of those. I’ve always noticed that whenever you get, any sort of character in politics which becomes prominent for whatever reason, they sometimes a blend of several different stereotypes. They never kind of, they’re never one dimensional and there’s something to be said for that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I feel like most, it’s interesting too. Like most nationalists, prominent nationalists are usually pretty tall. Like Keith Woods is like six-five. You’re like six-four. I know Ferryman from Canada is like six-four. Hersant and myself are pretty tall. We’re over six, well over six foot. Tom Sewell’s the only prominent [chuckling] I could think of actually he’s under six foot, but he makes up for it because he could probably bash all of us! So that’s the thing, like you know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Everyone thinks Tom’s short.

 

Joel Davis: But it’s just like all these mates are too tall! It’s just kind of not fair really. He’s like normal size.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s one of the things. But he also has like it’s the way he’s built because he’s so compact and like square built, strong shoulders, strong legs and shit! I think because he has the long torso, like if Tom and I sit next to each other, he literally looks taller than me because he’s got like a long torso and he sits upright, he’s got good posture. Whereas I slouch and all my height is in my legs. If I sit down I look shorter than him. So it’s a weird sort of aesthetic thing where, …

 

Joel Davis: He’s not such a good squat because he’s got those squatter’s legs.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, he’s got like the most perfect squat I’ve ever seen! So I don’t know, everyone’s got their strengths.

 

But yeah, I suppose we’ll see you guys next week. We’ll wrap it up there. I need to go to the bathroom.

 

Joel Davis: White power! Blood and honour! Hail Hitler! It’s all happening.

 

Blair Cottrell: See you guys.

 

 

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johnnyboy2324
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3 days ago
the succulent meal guy, recently did an interview and admitted that he was robbing safes. he just got out of prison
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ArchipelagoWoes
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4 days ago
I know a couple Davis’s here in Pennsylvania. Good people
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MrAnglo
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5 days ago
Never Compromise and Cuck. That is your Tactic. End of Discussion.
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katana17
5 days ago
[Joel Davis – Tactical N-Word – Jun 6, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/06/08/joel-davis-tactical-n-word-jun-6-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell discuss the tactical use of the N-word as used by NSN members in Melbourne with their Ban Niggers Not Machetes banner drop in front of a major shopping centre where Sudanese had engaged in a machete fight. See Table of Contents for points discussed. – KATANA]
01 Clip of Trump Using the N-Word
02 Trump vs Musk Feud
03 Clip of NSN Rally in Melbourne – Ban Niggers Not Machetes
04 Tactical Use of the N-Word, Pros and Cons
05 Why the Fuck Are There Africans in Australia!
06 Whites created the problems in the rest of the world through our expansionism and colonialism?
07 How Irish are you? Joel and Blair’s ancestry
08 DNA labs selling your data to interested parties
09 History of the name Davis
10 Davises in the US had slaves resulting in niggers having the name!
11 Whites, jews, blacks and the slave trade
12 Instagram and the very positive response to the Ban Niggers Not Machetes action
13 Discussion on the Effective Use of the N-Word and Media Response
14 Sudanese in Pakenham Attacking White High School Kids at Party
15 Machete Fight at Northland Shopping Centre
16 Magistrates in Victoria Are Being Trained in Diversity and Inclusion to Go Easy on Immigrants
17 The Problem of Anti-Racism Being Championed by Whites
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[TRANSCRIPT – Words: 27,900 – Duration: 160 mins]
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FJB6666
5 days ago
Joel looks like a Sikh pajeet with that black beeny on.
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cowolf
6 days ago
Speaking about the tactics. (I don’t know if you guys even read the comments here, never seen any response.) Sorry but I think you have to get rid of Hitler connotation (images, symbols, at least modify Roman salute), and this is from the supporter of the White cause, an European here. I haven’t seen any honest analysis of what Hitler actually did wrong. I mean, you have literally unlimited amount of material condemning Hitler and making him the greatest villain of all time (which he wasn’t, probably Stalin was) but it all comes from the Hitler’s enemies, it all comes from the WWII winners. What I want to hear is a reflection on Hitler’s mistakes from the Hitler’s supporters. And that is pretty obvious that you can’t go anywhere if you don’t know what went wrong in the first place and don’t want to repeat the mistakes. I watched the whole 12 hours of ‘Europa The Last Battle’ and while it is quite interesting there’s not a single word on what went wrong and why. For most of the countries of anti-German coalition of WWII Hitler will never be acceptable. You may not care that much but that’d be already the first problem: Whites need to learn how to make allies and how to support each other. So first of all, Hitler was not pro-White, he was only pro-German. That’s why he cannot be a unifying figure for all Whites. Every country Hitler attacked was at the time 100% White and nearly 100% Christian. Basically Germany didn’t kill a single non-white during the whole war, it was all White genocide. And tell me how can you blame everything on Jews then make ally with Soviet Union and bomb, burn and loot Poland? The biggest mistake Hitler did was to attack Poland, then it all went downhill. I am happy to hear any constructive opinions.
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CreateAnArmyToSaveWhites
6 days ago
I don’t know if it helps but WW2 was mostly about weakening Europe to then strengthen and later weaken the United States (ending segregation, making racism illegal, mass immigration, etc). Hitler could have kept his country on par with the United States without engaging in any war and could have kept his country purely white (if you consider the brown eye’d people white) but he didn’t. He decided to put it in harm’s way by attacking the entire White world FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. Hitler’s people weren’t on the verge of becoming minorities like they are now.. (THANKS TO HITLER) You’d have to be foolish as hell to think Hitler cared about White people or Germany. You’d also have to be pretty dim to think Hitler didn’t massively assist the Jews with his rhetoric and acts against them. Israel was created not long after WW2. Any criticism of Jews or nonwhites in general is the most perceived evil thing anyone can do now thanks to Hitler. Whereas before, it was nothing but common sense to criticize and to attack one’s enemy. I also don’t think Stalin is as evil as Hitler because Stalin didn’t make White people evil by being racist and losing a war. Good luck in life fellow white.
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johnnyboy2324
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3 days ago
optics cuck. stop being a pussy.
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cowolf
3 days ago
I asked specifically for ‘constructive opinions’ so get lost and stop being a low IQ retard.
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BeornBeorning
6 days ago
Blair was talking about my brown college room mate. White people are stupid suckers handing out freebies to him.
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predatorstomperrr
6 days ago
I’m an American white man and all my friends watch you while we watch ufc. Love you Joel! Don’t ever stop we cna win
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007lyse
6 days ago
The parks r inaccessible BC we r all destined to 15 mins Eutopean cities where you will own nothing & be happy. If you leave more than you r allowed you will pay for it.
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007lyse
6 days ago
When I worked with Redskins the conclusion I came to was they are embarrassed of their past. I saw more racism in nons all my life. Whites are hated BC they ARE superior.
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007lyse
6 days ago
Who owns Ayers Rock?
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007lyse
6 days ago
Who misses military style education system? It’s the I’m ok ur ok bs ruining & satanizing society.
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007lyse
6 days ago
Just bought a cemetery plot where my great grandparents/grandparents/mother/sister are buried. All Catholics are buried there but BC the cemetery was turned over to township with woke employees it’s now a free for all like the ppl buried there have been excommunicated or something. My ancestors were the ones who had to hike in 10miles of bush with bags of flour on their backs to create farmland, roads & not mudhuts. Do you guys not know the PCR tests of last 4 yrs was taking everyone’s DNA to assess mRNA jabs while causing brain damage.
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007lyse
6 days ago
The guys I follow are bent on dead weight lifting. I have a bunch of dead weights as friends. Lol Do you want them to lift BC I think it’s not being able to lift it’s about endurance. I was blessed to have the company of big strong guys on a 20km hike to have them barfing their under duress guts out all stressed/burnt out having the priest yelling “Just put one foot in front of the other” trying to avoid airlift out. I was 65 yo & could have redid the hike. Heard yrs later how it took a bunch of younger kids 3 days & 2 camping nites to do it. Lol. And boomers get constant lashings. I guess some yuppy boomers deserve it.
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Sinceresniper
6 days ago
Cottrell’s are also Jewish without being disrespectful to Blair.
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Sinceresniper
6 days ago
The Normans fought a bigger battle in Durres Albania in 1081 against the Eastern Roman empire so Norman’s decendants are there also.
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Nekropiate
6 days ago
Total support from the states!
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Nekropiate
6 days ago
Total support from the states! WPWW o/ Hail Victory!
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newgerman
6 days ago
ban nz not machetes…says it all in four words AAAAA+++++++
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basedrespillzeus22
6 days ago
Great stream lads
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GhostDogMan
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1 week ago
lol. You guys are in Winter!! I just remember you are our Polar opposite brethren!
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A655321
1 week ago
Blair, you don’t live in a traditional democracy anymore do you… Like my country you in a “Liberal democracy,” which exists to constrain the majority, turning the state into a referee for protected classes and global norms, rather than an instrument of national will. The government could care less if we are all replaced.
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palacepony
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1 week ago
Pakenham was a beautiful area back in the Australian days. Ironically, it was a place the youth of old Melbourne would run to for sporting fun on the weekends.
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palacepony
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1 week ago
I wanna hear from the banner offended as their spleen is ruptured by a multiculturally enriched machete thrust.
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akdjfhgpjksdnkjnsdfg
1 week ago
I want to hear the NSN policies on the Covid jew-juice. Materialistic Jew-Pharma is going to ethnically cleanse us all, and a lot of people are angry and activated by the government policies. There is no pushback/accountability.
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mrwordsworth
1 week ago
it’s pronounced took
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1488Brother
1 week ago
Yo four ads is crazy before I can get to a tactical N word.
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Motion937
1 week ago
It isn’t a damn machete crisis. It is a niggerdom crisis. I need my machetes for clearing brush. I don’t need the negroes/Muslims. They provide no value to anyone.
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Kroninn
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1 week ago
Exactly, Blair. Heat is for browns.
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evon626
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1 week ago
TIL “caught” and “court” are homophones in Australian English. W North American English for clarity.
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palacepony
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1 week ago
Trump/Elon distraction from real issue? – Mass surveillance/ PALANTIR Trump bill measures; https://youtu.be/Fg1JZDIconk?si=BGA8h
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ProvingNihil
1 week ago
Yeah my Nationalist account on IG was banned, hell also I was private.
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evon626
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1 week ago
TIL about KIN-dness.
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BlueNorth88
1 week ago
About censorship also, it can give content creators a kind of glamour. Look how Tommy and others milk it to death when it happens. Also the guys that follow to any smaller platform and remain loyal are true followers.
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EarthlingCarl
1 week ago
Blacks in London, Detroit and now Melbourne, all with the same result. Almost like race is the problem and Magic Soil is a myth.
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EarthlingCarl
1 week ago
Why has Blair got a tea cosy on his head? lol
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Otoya_Yamaguchi_G00k
1 week ago
Australia was invented and built by Europeans for Europeans only. https://odysee.com/@joeldavis:0/the-white-australia-policy-%28feat.:6
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katana17
1 week ago
[Joel Davis – Symbolic Victory – May 30, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/06/02/joel-davis-symbolic-victory-may-30-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell discuss the following: 1. The show is resuming after a break, with the hosts discussing recent events.
2. Joel Davis mentions no longer having “onerous bail conditions”.
3. They discuss weightlifting and an upcoming competition.
4. Joel aims for a 220kg deadlift: “That’s my ideal. If I can hit 220 at nationals, I’ll be ecstatic!”
5. They discuss the challenges of heavy lifting and potential injuries.
6. They talk about a recent court appearance in Adelaide.
7. Joel describes interactions with journalists: “And these journalists, they’re all women. Sometimes in Melbourne, you get these really, like, soy, Lefty, ugly journalists.”
8. They discuss how charges against them are being dropped.
9. Joel criticises the police: “The South Australia Police are a bunch of scumbags!”
10. They discuss African gang violence in Australia.
11. Joel says: “Basically the only thing holding together our society right now is White guys who train because police don’t actually do anything at this point.”
12. They discuss the concept of “Anarcho Tyranny”.
13. Joel talks about attending an event at New South Wales Parliament.
14. They discuss the concept of Universal vs. Particular in philosophy and politics.
15. Joel says: “Until we can go back and say what the Nazi, like the kind of so-called “Nazi” coded what they asserted, that a particular nation can just be itself and assert itself on its own terms.”
16. They discuss the importance of asserting White Identity.
17. Joel criticises the Right-wing for constantly “cucking” to the morality of their enemies. (Cont’d)
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Blair Cottrell: What’s up, fam! It seems like we are live and I’ll be, I suppose, filling in as the host of tonight’s stream until Joel jumps on later. With me here is Jacob Hersant. And if you saw any promotions for the stream, you might know who Jacob Hersant is already. He’s been at the centre of some pretty controversial activism down here in Australia lately. And I suppose I’ll ask you, Jacob, to explain it for yourself. Who is Jacob Hersant and what’s going on? How are you relevant to Australian political activism right now?

 

Jacob Hersant: Hello, I’m Jacob Hersant. I’ve been a political activist for almost a decade now for a nationalistic point of view. Recently I was in the news a lot, actually, because I was one of the people that were in the crowd at the Shrine of Remembrance on Anzac Day [in Melbourne] booing the Welcome to Country.

 

To be clear, I was booing only the Welcome to Country and mentions of diversity and Welcome to Country and just Aboriginal victimhood at the Anzac Day Dawn Service, not the Dawn Service itself. There was some misreporting about that in the news. And there’s just been a lot of outrage from system “elites” regarding it. They’ve been very, very upset and they’ve collapsed all of the blame for what happened that morning on me. I saw in the State Premier’s* statement, she said:

 

“The booing of a neo-Nazi.”

 

Which obviously would be referring to me.

 

So it’s been interesting to see them basically collapse all of the booing and all the people that were booing into me. I guess I’m the avatar of that day.

 

[* Jacinta Marie Allan (born 19 September 1973) is an Australian politician serving as the 49th and current premier of Victoria since 2023. She has been the leader of the Victorian branch of the Australian Labor Party (ALP) since 2023 and has been a member of the Victorian Legislative Assembly (MLA) for the district of Bendigo East since 1999. She previously served as the 29th deputy premier of Victoria from 2022 to 2023. Allan is the longest-serving female minister in Victorian state history and currently the most senior sitting member of the Assembly. Wikipedia]

 

Blair Cottrell: Just for the record and for our international viewers, what is “Welcome to Country”? That might be something that’s exclusive to Australia. What is the Welcome to Country statement ceremony? What’s that consist of and why are you against it?

 

Jacob Hersant: The “Welcome to Country” is basically a statement saying that Aboriginals are the traditional owners of the country, and that by virtue of that they can welcome anybody to the country, whether that be the country as a whole, or a particular piece of land that was inhabited by a tribe. Because Aboriginals didn’t get to the level of organisation where they were any larger than tribes on particular parts of land. There was, I can’t remember exactly how many, but it would probably be in the hundreds of different little, I guess you, what you would call polities, but to talk of an Aboriginal politics is a bit ridiculous!

 

So they do this Welcome to Country everywhere! It’s not only at the Shrine of Remembrance, they do it at Parliament. They do it on public transportation. They do it at football games, basically any sports they do it at that. They’ll do it everywhere! I struggle to think of anywhere they don’t do the Welcome to Country, honestly. And it’s all just to do with Leftist victimhood politics about Aboriginal racial nationalism, to be used as a weapon against White Australians and to instil White guilt in White Australians.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, first of all, is the Anzac Day Dawn Service, is that something that you would attend each year?

 

Jacob Hersant: I don’t always attend the Dawn Service. I have been to Dawn Services before but I don’t attend it as frequently as I should. Going forward though I believe that I will because this one was, it was good, it was good to be there. Because even though we’re upset about the Welcome to Country, the rest of the service, a lot of it was quite good and I think a lot of it was respecting the soldiers that died in many, many wars that Australia has participated in. I thought it was a fitting way to remember them and to commemorate the hardship and sacrifice of those soldiers. But it was just that the Welcome to Country and the politicisation, and not only just politicisation but in a Left-wing direction which is completely alien to the soldiery that it’s supposed to be representing.

 

Blair Cottrell: So did you know there was going to be a Welcome to Country statement issued at the Dawn Service? Was that something like did you go to the Dawn Service knowing that was going to happen? Was that your booing process, was that pre-planned or was it a spur of the moment type thing? You weren’t expecting it? How did it all go down?

 

Jacob Hersant: I strongly suspected that they would do it. I’ve been to previous Dawn Services and they’ve said things like that “the Australian soldiers in the Second World War died for diversity and inclusion” and things like that. I think it’s only relatively recently that they’ve doubled down and gone fully into the White guilt Welcome to Country and all these kind of things. But I strongly suspected that they were going to do it. And I showed up with the plan of if they did take it away from what actually is respectful remembrance of the soldiers that I would boo anything that was out of place, that was disrespectful to the Australian soldiers.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, [chuckling] your criticism was heard loud and clear, not just by other Australians, but it seems like you’ve triggered a bit of an international response on a few different levels. We’ll get into that in a minute, though. Because the Dawn Service, it’s a big deal in Australia. It’s part of our national tradition, our annual tradition to honour the soldiers that died for our country. And to some people it means something even beyond that as well.

 

And so a lot of people attend the Dawn Service. How was, how should I ask this question? The people around you, how did they receive the booing? Were they supportive? How did the people around you at the Dawn Service react?

 

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Jacob Hersant: The vast majority of people were just completely silent. Most people actually supported what we did, but the people there were, you could feel their nervousness and you could feel their fear. Most people are., …

 

Blair Cottrell: They were nervous as a result of your booing? They were afraid. They didn’t know how to react. Is that what you mean?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, they were nervous because of the booing and it obviously made them very uncomfortable because most people are conflict avoidant. They don’t want to sit there and have drama going on around them and have this uneasy feeling in their stomach. And they were all just more or less silent for the first, it felt like hours of booing, but there was a lot of booing.

 

But by the end of it, there were some people that were getting sick of like, me booing and the people around me booing and other people booing, and they were saying to me:

 

“Stop! It’s enough!”

 

And I just absorbed that energy and I redirected it at the welcome to the Welcome to Country and I just said:

 

“Yeah, stop it!”

 

I was [chuckling] basically absorbing their energy and then I just shot it back at the Aboriginal victimhood, the paid victim.

 

So that was quite funny and that just shut them up.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I did notice in some footage there was actually at least one veteran who was on your side of the argument. He was actually trying to tell people that you were entitled to your opinion. He was suggesting that the Aboriginal character employed by the government to give that statement to welcome veterans, welcome the fallen even to their own country or descendants of the fallen to welcome them to the country that they fought and died for. He was suggesting that that was a government politicisation of the Anzac Day ceremony. And you were only responding with your criticism of that politicisation, which I think was a fair observation personally.

 

But you just said something interesting then. You said that “most people are conflict avoidant” and that they don’t want to deal with confrontation or any sort of direct criticism, hostility, because it makes them uncomfortable. You’re certainly not like that you don’t mind a bit of conflicts. If anything, sometimes you go out there looking for it. Why do you think that is? What sets you apart from the ordinary person? What’s motivating you there? What gives you that energy?

 

Jacob Hersant: It’s not something that comes naturally to me. I’m not temperamentally somebody that goes out and seeks conflict. Rather, it’s the opposite. It’s the fact that I have deeply held political views that brings me into the political struggle and makes me part of that conflict.

 

And that’s why I find myself in these situations [chuckling] where everyone else in the crowd was fueling it. They felt embarrassed about the Welcome to Country, they felt humiliated, they felt like it was out of place, but nothing was going to bring them to boo because they were scared!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it did seem that way. And has there been any repercussions in your personal life? Anything good, anything bad to report as a result of your activism at the Anzac Day ceremony, specifically?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, while I was there, the police came up to me and did a field interview, I guess you’d say. They just asked me a bunch of questions. They’re like:

 

“Why are you here?”

 

I just said:

 

“Remembering.”

 

Then they asked me a bunch of other questions to which I didn’t answer. I just said:

 

“No comment.”

 

And then they brought up a shrine., … I think it’s the person who heads the shrine, he’s some corporate traitor who previously stopped us from going to the Last Post. So I believe it was the same person. And he basically said that we’re not allowed to attend the shrine, at that time. And then he came again at this, at the Dawn Service or after the Dawn Service, he came up and he said:

 

“I want you to leave.”

 

So I promptly called him a traitor.

 

And then the police removed me from the Shrine of Remembrance Grounds. I think it’s called the “Grounds”. There’s some technical term that’s in that Act, which they used to remove us from the shrine.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re no stranger to having to deal with the police as a result of your activism. Have you currently got any outstanding charges for previous activist events? What’s going on with your legal situation? Are you caught up in anything at the moment there?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I have an appeal going on for when I nearly gave the Roman salute outside of the county court. That’s coming up soon. So I’ll be appealing that in the county court again.

 

I actually got delivered a brief today by Victoria Police, which was not to do with the Welcome to Country booing, although I suspect I probably will be charged with the same charge that I actually received today, which was for a political demonstration we did last year, probably nine or ten months ago, which was with a banner that said “Mass Deportations Now”, where I gave a speech at Federation Square. So they charged me with “offensive behaviour”, which is a charge that’s basically used to charge people who use profanity or expose themselves, like expose their genitals or things like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: You didn’t actually do anything like that at this particular event, this protest?

 

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Jacob Hersant: No, I just led a political demonstration, so that’s why I’ve been charged. If you look at the brief, the brief just basically says that I shouted a bunch of slogans and was underneath this banner with my mask off!

 

So I don’t think the prosecution has much of a chance of actually convicting me for this. But obviously it’s just harassment, it’s just lawfare*. But this one for the Welcome to Country, I suspect I’ll be charged for that again.

 

[* Lawfare is legal action undertaken in order to exert power or control, esp. as part of a hostile campaign against a particular country or group.]

 

And there was another time I was arrested, which was on Halloween when I was wearing a Ku Klux Klan costume. And they want to charge me, probably with offensive behaviour again.

 

So I think for the foreseeable future of my political activism, which I’m obviously not going to stop, they’re just going to keep charging me with offensive behaviour, because it offends them.

 

Blair Cottrell: But you’re willing to take that on board, right? That comes with the job sort of thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m not doing anything wrong.

 

So if there were, there’s really no point of charging me because it doesn’t do anything except for waste their resources and make them look bad, because they profess to be adherents of liberalism and they say that we live in a democracy where people can express their point of view and influence the politics of the country, yet anything I do is deemed “offensive behaviour” and criminalised. And they’re constantly putting in new laws, trying to legislate our politics out of existence. But it’s not going to Reform us. We’re incorrigible! There’s no way that they are going to Reform our views.

 

And the only way they’re going to stop us engaging in particular political behaviours is if they convince us that those behaviours are wrong.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m not sure if you will get charged for the booing at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. I saw an article that suggested the Prime Minister, or didn’t suggest it, was the information in the article was asserting that the Prime Minister had already explored several different legal options or avenues to see if they could charge you with anything. And the search came up with nothing. Apparently it’s in a bit of a grey area. You can’t really charge someone for booing. I don’t believe there’s been any precedent in Australia where someone’s been charged for booing something that they’re not in favour of so you might be okay there.

 

But I did notice in another story. The NRL, which is the National Rugby League in Australia, a different type of popular sport. We have a mixture of favourite sports down here in Australia. Some states like the Australian Football League, which is Australian Rules Football, and other states prefer the rugby. Down here in Victoria, we are known to be an AFL state, but I think New South Wales is one of the big rugby states. But the NRL dropped their Welcome to Country, or there was some sort of disagreement with the people who would usually give the Welcome to Country ceremony before the Melbourne Storm game, the big Anzac Day game. That seems to be a direct result of you having booed the ceremony at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. Any thoughts there?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s encouraging to see that these people are scared to put on these Welcome to Country’s, because there hasn’t been enough pushback previously when they do it. The public has made it clear that they are not in favour of these Welcome to Country’s. They’re over them! They want less of them. The overwhelming majority actually wants them to stop completely.

 

And the booing at the Shrine of Remembrance just made that sentiment palpable. And everybody that was there in that crowd felt it. They felt, they were already uncomfortable, but the fact that there’s been pushback now made them even more uncomfortable. This is the kind of cop out that a lot of people on the Right are using. They’re saying:

 

“Yes, we hate the Welcome to Country, we’re over it. But booing it is not the right thing to do and they need to get rid of the Welcome to Country so we don’t have this conflict anymore.”

 

We don’t have people like me booing the Welcome to Country.

 

But there’s nothing wrong with booing things that are dishonourable and that are basically humiliating the people that are supposed to be being remembered on a particular day, namely the Anzacs on Anzac Day. There’s nothing wrong with booing something that is bad.

 

So this kind of trying to play both sides thing by saying:

 

“Oh, I’m against the booers, but I’m also against the Welcome to Country.”

 

Is really, it’s just cowardly and it won’t actually do anything. You have to pick a side. Are you in favour of Welcome to Country’s or are you not in favour of Welcome to Country’s?

 

Blair Cottrell: Most people aren’t. But like you said, most people, they just lack the necessary motivation or energy to express their discontent or criticism of the Welcome to Country. If it seems like everyone is tolerating it, then the standard person will just tolerate it as well, because the average person, as you know, isn’t really geared to step out of line like that. They’re waiting for someone else to do it and they’ll support the person that does do it. Just like over 100,000 people in a News Corp poll said that they want the Welcome to Country removed altogether. That was the most selected choice in the poll by far. You know, but all of those people aren’t actually ready and willing to stand up and voice that opinion loudly and with any sort of meaningful passion, that they don’t really want to suffer the consequences. So they will support someone who does challenge it, but they won’t challenge it themselves. And unfortunately, that’s just the nature of people rights the way they’ve kind of always been, according to my understanding.

 

But I noticed Tucker Carlson mentioned something about Welcome to Country in a recent statement interview of some kind. I saw some footage of Tucker Carlson saying a few things, but one of the things he said was his understanding of Welcome to Country. He’d been to Australia, he landed at an airport, and he’d heard the Welcome to Country over the loudspeaker. The thought that came to his mind, that was that the Welcome to Country statement is basically:

 

“Psychological preparation for having your country taken from you.”

 

He gave an analogy, or used an analogy of people coming into your home and telling you:

 

“This is not your home!”

 

You know what I mean?:

 

“Welcome to this home. It’s not your home anymore.”

 

And they keep telling that to you for a long time because they’re actually planning to take your home away from you. Would you largely agree with that? I mean, what are they essentially saying when they make that Welcome to Country statement? When the government employs Aboriginal activists, professional Aboriginals, to make those statements, whether it’s in schools, whether it’s in government buildings, train stations, airports, it’s everywhere! What, in essence are they telling the Australian people when they do that?

 

[21:46]

 

 

Jacob Hersant: I do largely agree with that. But I think he doesn’t understand how bad the situation actually is the fact is we have had our country already stolen from us. Our state is completely run by traitors and aliens and they don’t listen to the founding stock of this country at all! They don’t care! This kind of Welcome to Country is basically just broadcasting that we have had our country stolen from us. Because if we had a decent and honourable country that was willing to assert itself, this stuff would be impossible. You wouldn’t be able to say it. There would be no question that we have an inalienable right to this country because we would have the will and the strength to actually defend it, to defend our claim to this country.

 

But we’ve had it stolen and hence we have to sit and suffer through these humiliation rituals where we have to be Welcome to the Country that is supposed to be ours. That’s where I disagree with say, the Trumpet of Patriots where they say:

 

“We don’t have to be welcome to our own country!”

 

Well, the sad thing is Australia isn’t our country anymore and we’re going to have to fight to take our country back.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what happened? How in your mind did we lose our country?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it started by the “elites” or the state being captured by people who don’t have our interests at heart, whether they be aliens in the form of jews, obviously jewry, world jewry, or in the form of Whites who are traitors that don’t value racial solidarity. So the state was captured by our ideological and racial enemies.

 

And then they opened up the floodgates and started flooding Australia with, first it was with non-British immigration, which was initially what this country was founded on, a British Isles identity. The majority of our White population here were from the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish ethnic groups, although there were other Europeans here, whether they be from Central Europe or Scandinavia or France or all of these European countries. But they first started opening up the floodgates, the mass immigration with all Europeans generally. So whether they be Italians and Greeks and Spanish and Balkans ethnic groups.

 

So that was an initial dilution of what we considered ourselves ethnically here, a White Australia. And that was basically the beginning of the end. It wasn’t long after that that they started letting in other races, so yellows, browns and blacks.

 

And now we’re basically in a position where we are diminishing population, where we’re being displaced and supplanted in the cities that we built in the country that our ancestors conquered and left to their posterity.

 

Blair Cottrell: You mentioned White Australia there and I keep seeing and hearing about a White Australia Party and there’s a website for that. Are you involved in the development of that party and in what capacity if you are?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m involved with the National Socialist Network, which is part of a broader movement for White Australia.

 

So we’re in the preparation stage of creating a broader movement that isn’t only the hard hitting activism that we previously engaged in.

 

So the name of that broader movement is going to be “White Australia”, because that is the nationality, the political identity that we want to put forward in this country. We want the people on this continent to identify primarily with their race, as White Australians.

 

Blair Cottrell: That sounds like an ideological spiritual battle rather than an exclusively political one, would you agree? And is that something, how do you see yourself fitting into the equation? What role are you playing in this battle to establish a future for White Australians?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I am primarily an ideological person, so I’m more interested in the formation of ideas that make political victories kind of possible. So most people in the, I guess what you call the right nowadays would call this meta-politics, which basically just means before politics.

 

So it’s kind of the battle of values that happens in society which makes a particular set of values electable in the future.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re certainly not just an ideas man though. You have the audacity to get out there and get into activism. You’ve delivered a few pretty good public speeches lately. I’ve seen a couple of them.

 

So do you have some sort of vision as to how you’re going to organise or inspire anyone who might be favourable to your message in the future? Is there some sort of like system you’re following or is it sort of like a reactionary process to what’s happening politically? Is it a little bit of both? What’s your plan for the Australian people?

 

[28:31]

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’ll speak generally because I am more of a generalist, but I was converted to the creed of National Socialism just through my own research on the Internet. I won’t get too much into the story. But from there I developed my ideas of what needs to be done to save our ethnic group, White Australians, from the destruction that is slated for us by the current government, which is obviously run by the jews.

 

I think the most important task that we have is the education of White Australians and the indoctrination of them. And I use indoctrination not in a way that most people would use it in a kind of negative way where someone’s kind of forced into a point of view, but I the word “indoctrination” insofar as bringing somebody to a doctrine, I guess a word proselytising is probably a little less grating on the ears of some people.

 

But I think proselytising is the most important thing that we can do. Bringing White Australians to our point of view. And then once we do that, we need to recruit those people into a political movement to organise them. And then once we have them organised, we need to build up our strength in that organisation.

 

So we need to make the people just better political activists, better people in general. We need to increase their strength. And that can come in very many forms, not just obviously brawn or muscle. It comes from their courage, their mastery of particular things. There’s many things that we can do to increase our strength as a movement.

 

So I think generally the things we need to do is proselytize, build understanding of our world view as possible. We need to recruit people, motivate them to actually take action. And then those people that we have, we need to make sure that they are the best that they can be.

 

Blair Cottrell: Understanding the capacity for thought of the standard White Australian these days, what do you think the best method for selling National Socialism to them is? Is it simplistic phraseology? Is it kind of the sort of activism that you’ve already been engaged in? Is it a combination of things? Do you think the average Australian can ever become a conscious National Socialist? Do they even need to be, or do they just need to vote for an appropriate party that stands at least in part with National Socialist principles? What I’m asking you is, do you think it’s possible to make National Socialists of the standard working class Australians?

 

Jacob Hersant: I think it’s definitely possible. Whether it’s probable is another question. I think it’s going to be very difficult. But I think that ultimately it’s something that’s necessary. We’re going to have to do it if we are going to survive as a distinct and honourable ethnic group going forward.

 

I think there’s particular parts of our worldview that are more palatable to people where they are now. One of those things is basically just racism generally. I think Australians on the whole are more racist than other White ethnic groups, basically because of historical circumstances and the kind of national consciousness that we developed through the centuries through not too many centuries obviously, we’re a new nation. But we have a unique history that makes us predisposed to ideas of racial solidarity and all of these things.

 

I think there’s other things that will take quite a bit of work to convince people of things like historical revisionism, the Second World War, the view of Adolf Hitler and things like that. Nonetheless, I think these are necessary. We have to fight in the realm of ideas on all fronts! Some people think that we can just leave behind particular issues because it’s going to be more difficult to convince people of those. But we’re obviously in a struggle against an enemy who aren’t going to just let us cede that ground. They’re obviously going to keep ripping up those wounds and trying to discredit us by bringing those things up over and over again!

 

So I think we need to fight on all fronts and we need to convince people of all these things.

 

But I don’t think that it is impossible for us to convince White Australians to become National Socialists because, well, I am one of them. I am one person who has been convinced, so I know that other people can be convinced.

 

But also we have the historical example of Adolf Hitler, who gained cultural hegemony over the German people. And many other countries also were adjacent to National Socialism. So we know that these views can become widely supported. We just need to put all of our effort into making sure that that is realised again.

 

Blair Cottrell: What age were you when you first became sold on National Socialism? Because I’ve known you for a while. I’ve seen you around for quite a while. You’re not someone who’s new in the sphere of politics and political activism or fringe political groups, you might say. I know you’ve been around since you were quite young. So how old were you when you first came to describe yourself as a National Socialist? And what was it that first alerted you to the essence of that doctrine, the truth of that doctrine?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it was initially when I was in high school, so I was probably 15 or 16 or maybe more.

 

Blair Cottrell: That would have been a good time! I wish I was in school with you, man, that would have been funny! [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: I got up to all kinds of funny things when I was in high school! I got suspended a few times. I won’t go into it, but it was all politically related. I guess that was, …

 

[35:33]

 

Blair Cottrell: Was it for being racist? Were you suspended for being racist?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, for being racist and being, I guess, what they would call homophobic or against sexual perversion. So I managed to upset a bunch of people at the school. I guess that was the beginning of my, quote, unquote, “life of crime”. Because all of my criminal matters that have happened, obviously after I was in high school, are all politically related as well.

 

Blair Cottrell: You mentioned that Australians may have a better sense of ethnic consciousness than other European or extension European peoples. You said Australians are generally more racist in a positive sense. Do you see any problems or weaknesses pertaining to the Australian nature? What can we improve on as a collective group?

 

Jacob Hersant: One of the things that is very frustrating is the apathetic nature of a lot of Australians, where they basically throw up their hands and say:

 

“Nothing can be done!”

 

Or they say:

 

“She’ll be right, we’ll just allow everything to happen because I’ve got other things to do. I’m just going to focus on my own life, maybe go fishing, watch the football, do things like that. While everything goes to hell!”

 

We’re not as politically engaged as other countries are. I think one of the weaknesses we have is while we are more racial, we don’t have as long as a history as other ethnic groups like obviously our parent nations, the Scottish, the English, the Welsh, the Irish, but other European ethnicities as well, like the Germans and Scandinavians.

 

And all of these ethnicities have longer histories that have a way longer national story than we do. Ours basically goes back to England, but that is on the other side of the world. That history is also our history in terms of blood. But it isn’t the same in terms of politics. I guess it is partly politics, but in terms of geography and in terms of the story of our people, particularly in this part of the world.

 

So I think a lot of people don’t have as robust an understanding of Australianism as a German would have about Germanness or an Englishman would have about Englishness.

 

Blair Cottrell: There has been a great deal of effort on the part of the government and relevant institutions to make sure Australians don’t know a lot about their history though. I kind of don’t blame the luckless victims, to borrow a phrase from Mein Kampf. I try to sympathize with people because they’ve been victims of hostile anti-national propaganda for at least a couple of generations now. So Australians not really having a strong sense of Australianism I think is more a result of exposure to enemy propaganda rather than our own ignorance. I think Australians want to believe in the greatness of this country and of their national identity. They want to believe in something, they want to be a part of something greater. But they’re shouted down as racists every time they try.

 

So there is potential there I think there’s still a lot of good stock down here in Australia, plenty of good stock. I think there’s great potential for a bit of a reawakening, a national awakening. And I see that as well and truly underway in many different parts of society. There’s all sorts of different lobby groups and nationalist organisations popping up all over Australia. Activist cells either related to you or kind of organic, and getting into activism as a result of their own ideas and methods, which is a good thing.

 

You know, I think Tom Sewell borrowed a phrase from, I don’t know who initially said it. I don’t even know if it was Mao. He says:

 

“Let a thousand flowers blossom.”

 

That seems to be happening down here in Australia. There’s a lot of organic resistance and activism happening. You’ve got Mattie Trihey in the National Workers Alliance. You’ve got British-Australian Community, who I follow on Telegram. They push, they put some good stuff out there. And there’s you guys, the National Socialist Network, there’s Tom Sewell and the EAM [European Australian Movement]. There’s plenty of good stuff going on out there. So I kind of see that as an organic national response to the situation our country’s in. Kind of like an immune response, like the nation is the body.

 

And all of these activists, such as yourselves, you, Tom, these other groups, kind of like these guys are the White blood cell activity, the immune response that’s fighting back against foreign bodies within ours. So, yeah, it’s good stuff. Like there’s plenty of potential is what I’m trying to say.

 

But yeah, man, thanks for jumping on.

 

Is there anything else you want to talk about before we start going through a few Superchats?

 

Jacob Hersant: I can’t think of anything really. I think we covered most of what was happening with the Welcome to Country and about politics in general.

 

Blair Cottrell: How are you feeling? How are you feeling lately? Everyone’s sick. I just got better after being sick for weeks. It just flattened me, man, and it’s really like sapped my energy. I don’t know what goes on in Melbourne, but Melbourne’s like this big incubator. It’s like everyone gets sick at the same time, which never used to happen. I don’t remember that happening before, but yeah. You feeling okay?

 

[41:38]

 

 

Jacob Hersant: I’ve only gotten better recently. I’ve been sick for probably like a week and a half. So I was actually sick before going to Anzac Day. I was actually getting better and I probably would have woke up 100%. But I only had 2 hours sleep the night before going to Anzac Day because I just couldn’t turn off. I was too excited about what was going to happen at the Dawn Service. And I was doing a lot of editing that night and I find if I’m just doing work on the computer before I try to go to sleep, I find it really difficult to go to sleep.

 

So I was run down and then had two hours sleep.

 

And then just the hit of adrenaline while I was booing was just crazy! Because I, the part, the group I was part of that was booing, it felt like it was just us. Like I was booing so loud that I couldn’t hear any other groups. So I like messaged the chat. I was like:

 

“It feels like it’s just me. Like [chuckling] where is everyone?”

 

Because there was a bunch of other people that were coming but nobody. And you can’t hear a lot of those guys because there was obviously 50,000 people there and I was the only one that was booing loud enough within the proximity of the microphone. And our group. It wasn’t just me. We’re the only ones that could be heard in the footage. But it felt like there was no one there and I was just, I just dumped all my adrenaline just booing as loud as possible, just like making sure that there wasn’t any public heroes that were going to go and try to fight me.

 

The vast majority of the people that were around me were actual veterans, like the veteran that obviously defended me. But they were there and they were just agreeing with me more or less.

 

So there wasn’t any men there that were going to try and stop me from booing because we’re just doing it over and over again for like 10 minutes of just straight booing at them, and nobody stopped us. It was just a bunch of cat ladies around us that were getting upset. And then I was just re channeling their energy back at the speaker saying:

 

“Yeah, stop it!”

 

And just having a lot of fun. But they would have been upset about the Welcome to Country, so they didn’t care. I saw a lot of Leftists were saying:

 

“How were these neo-Nazis in a crowd of 50,000 people and not have their head stomped in? How weren’t they killed by this crowd?”

 

Blair Cottrell: And it’s funny, isn’t it? People think that there’s something about a so-called neo-Nazi that’s going to make them recognizable in a crowd.

 

But the only things I can think of that would make them recognizable is, I don’t know, like good health, caring about themselves, being basically upstanding members of society who are trying to do what they can for their country. It’s not like they’re this caricature of evil or twisted demon that you like have a duty to go and stomp when you see them.

 

As far as I’m aware and based on my own experience, the people who go for National Socialism tend to hold themselves to higher standards than average. So it’s funny the perspective certain people have of the designated evil, the Nazi.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, we got to remember that the crowd there at the Shrine of Remembrance isn’t going to be TikTok Leftists and Aboriginals. The only Aboriginal that I saw there was the one that was getting paid thousands of dollars to humiliate the veterans that were there., …

 

Blair Cottrell: He looked angry that guy, especially when he heard the boos. I don’t think he knew how to take that. He sort of tried to keep speaking but he couldn’t keep the disdain from showing on his face. He was very upset!

 

And a friend of mine said that he shouldn’t have been wearing a hat. That was kind of disrespectful for him to be wearing a cap while he was giving an address. Well, he shouldn’t have been on the podium in the first place. The guy is a political activist. He’s an Aboriginal activist who believes in Aboriginal racial nationalism speaking or rather spruiking his certain ideology or perspective of Australia which is an anti-White perspective at the Anzac Day Dawn Service. Which is, it’s just unacceptable, it’s inappropriate. He shouldn’t have even been there.

 

But you know, he was also wearing a hat. You can’t even wear a hat in court or anything on your head. If you walk into a courtroom with a hat, the magistrate or the judge will tell you to take it off. It’s disrespectful. It’s understood as being a disrespectful thing. So you know, the guy couldn’t have been any more disrespectful with what he said or how he presented himself. So he deserved to be booed! And the whole country understands that, they agree with it. So it seems like all the support is behind you, man!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I didn’t see any non-Whites there other than two non-Whites at the end when the police were there and they were just asking the police to arrest me. So, they were maybe in their early 20s, just like young fighting age men just begging the police to arrest me for booing.

 

And yeah, I think the only caps that should be worn are the ones that are part of the army uniform. If you’re wearing some sort of slouch hat or whatever, you’re a guard. There shouldn’t be any caps worn. But he was wearing a baseball cap! And he just looked disheveled and just not dressed properly to conduct a official ceremony like that.

 

[47:44]

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I noticed that you’ve got a lot of support, not just from the Australian people, but various influencers on the Internet, too.

 

But pivoting to a different subject briefly, did you see the very honest Liberal and Labor Party flyers that have been appearing over the last couple of days?

 

Jacob Hersant: I did see those. They were very funny! I saw the jewish one, “The Liberal Party Loves jews” and it was obviously just saying “giving the jews everything they want”. I don’t want to spoil it too much for when Joel comes on here and says everything that happened, but it was very funny.

 

And I thought it was going to be difficult to get some publicity after just the massive explosion that was the Welcome to Country. But that story, obviously targeting the jews just exploded as well.

 

So it was very good. I’m always impressed with activism that doesn’t need a lot of effort and it doesn’t need a lot of people. But the idea is just so good that it just works perfectly.

 

And I think this week these last two weeks have exemplified that kind of style of activism, because how much do we have to pay to boo at the Shrine of Remembrance? And how much is it to just have three people show up to the polling booth with, well, maybe they had to pay for the jew costumes [chuckling] they had on! But obviously it’s not a lot of cost, but it’s created a lot of hysteria from our enemies that has obviously put our point of view to the public and has brought a lot of attention to our cause and our organisations.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s like no rest for the wicked, right? These major parties, government bureaucrats, they have to go to a great deal of effort to try to disguise what they’re doing as not harmful for the future of the country, not hostile to the Australian people. They have to talk all kinds of nonsense and run rings around themselves to try to create the necessary slogans and obfuscate what it is they’re doing. It takes much less effort to just expose what they’re doing with simple satire or very direct and honest criticism, doesn’t it? I think that’s where the saying “no rest for the wicked” comes from. When you have evil intentions, when what you’re doing is dishonourable, it’s based on lies. You’ve got to make a great deal more effort to push that kind of message. And people on the opposing side who represent the truth, they can have a profound impact by doing only a fraction of the work. Because when you use the truth, you don’t need to put as much energy or as much effort into getting a result that the enemy needs to put in the kind of resources, man, the resources, the amount of money that the major parties are probably burning through on these ridiculous campaigns where they’re not even, like, making their policies known or understood. It’s just a bunch of people smiling and just talking shit with simplistic phraseology. And the amount of money, it’s like costing the amount of public money probably that’s being spent on this shit!

 

But, yeah, that’s my perspective on the whole thing.

 

But, yeah, man, thanks for jumping on. It’s been good. You’re a good sport. Where will you see Jacob Hersant next? I suppose you can’t give anything away. Are you appearing in court anytime soon?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, I’ll be going to the county court soon. I’m not sure of the exact date, but it should be in the next few months. And we’ll be there for three days, I believe. Just arguing that I didn’t give the Roman salute and that getting a month in jail is excessive. And also arguing, obviously, that it’s against the Australian constitution to prohibit political communication of which giving a gesture is an example.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re actually not the only one who’s been charged with giving a Roman salute. You were the first one charged after the new legislation was passed. But former Neighbors actor, soap actor Damian Richardson has also been charged after he gave a satirical Roman salute at a private function, trying to draw attention to how ridiculous the law was. And because that gesture or his presentation was live streamed to Facebook, I’m pretty sure Victoria police snapshotted or recorded that segment of the live stream and went to his house to charge him for performing a Nazi gesture or salute. So he’s having to go to court for possibly what I understand is a similar charge to the one you’ve got.

 

I think you’ll both be coming at it from different angles, though, because you’re arguing for the right to make the gesture as part of free political expression, whereas Damien will be saying he doesn’t even really believe it. He’s actually just doing it satirically to criticise the law itself. So there’ll be some interesting outcomes in the courts. Hopefully you guys get fair hearings and hopefully the judge comes to a sensible ruling.

 

So, yeah, that’ll be something I’ll follow closely because I’m interested to see how those matters turn out.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, I think the higher it goes up the courts, the fairer the hearings will get. So the county court should be better than the magistrates.

 

And I think after the county court, if we don’t get a ruling in our favour, we’re just going to go from the county court to the High Court.

 

So that’s what my lawyer told me. Although maybe that’s subject to change. Maybe we’ll go to the Supreme Court of Victoria and then try there. Because I know the Supreme Court has ruled previously in favour of expression. I know the New South Wales Supreme Court actually ruled in favour of environmental activists blocking the road and saying that that was a form of political communication.

 

So I don’t know how these higher Ranking judges are going to seriously make a case that giving a Roman salute isn’t a form of political communication that needs to be defended by the Constitution for us to have the system that we purport to have or that the Constitution outlines.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well said. And before we get Joel on, what’s your message to the viewers, to not just the Australian people, but to anyone who’s interested in nationalism, anyone who wants to be active, wants to get involved. What kind of words do you have? What’s your message to those people?

 

Jacob Hersant: I just encourage everybody to get active in some way. Because there’ll be lots of people out there that are consuming content and they’re feeding their mind and they’re being won to our position.

 

But that really isn’t enough. You need to take that next step and start working productively for those ideals that you’ve been won to. You need to proselytise more. You need to propagate the ideas that have been obviously recreated in your brain. People have convinced you of those ideas. Now you need to go over and convince other people of those ideas.

 

And there’s other ways that obviously I previously stated, you can engage in recruitment work, you can encourage people to get active, you can just make yourself a better person, make sure that you’re flourishing in every aspect of your life, and not only individually in terms of self improvement, but also collectively as a people. You can encourage the people around you, White Australians, to flourish as well.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, thanks, mate. Well said. And thanks for jumping on. It’s been good. Some really good stuff in there. And I’m sure we’ll speak to you again soon. Best of luck in the immediate future. We’ll keep an eye on what’s going on in court and support you any way we can.

 

So thanks for coming.

 

Jacob Hersant: Sounds good. Thank you for having me on Blood and Honour!

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re welcome, mate.

 

[56:41]

 

[Joel Davis comes on]

 

So next up, I’ll get Joel Davis on and we’ll continue the stream. Now I can sit back and let Joel drive. Man, that’s stressful, actually driving the stream! It requires actually a bit more mental energy than I expected. I’m starting to like, understand what you go through Joel. Well done, man! Glad we have you.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t really go through anything. I can’t be in a conversation that I don’t drive. I don’t know how to do that. But it is frustrating not be not being able to just do the stream with Jacob and you, because of these ridiculous limitations that are placed upon us. Unconstitutional, unlawful and outrageous limitations that are placed upon us by our ridiculous legal system. But hopefully that doesn’t go on for much longer.

 

I will say quickly, before we talk about other things, about Jacob booing the Welcome to Country. And not just Jacob, but Jacob kind of became the face of the booing, because he got up very early, got down there really early in the morning, like 4:00 in the morning, I think. So he was right up the front and his voice was able to come through the microphones basically of the official proceedings so you could hear it on television. And it was like Beamed all around the 45,000 people who were there. And it was his idea as well to do it. Obviously some of the other boys did it. But it really did launch a national conversation and a conversation that we won pretty conclusively, I would say. I mean Australians have “abo fatigue”. We talked about this when The Voice referendum* was happening.

 

[* The 2023 (Labour government) Australian Indigenous Voice referendum was a constitutional referendum held on 14 October 2023 in which the proposed Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice was rejected (with 60% voting No). Voters were asked to approve an alteration to the Australian Constitution (giving Abos special rights) that would recognise Indigenous Australians in the document through prescribing a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice that would have been able to make representations to Federal Parliament and the executive government on “matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”. Wikipedia]

 

But I think Australians had abo fatigue, know from the very beginning, as soon as we showed up. I think we were sick of them from the moment we met them. And we’ve only become more and more sick of them the longer we’ve had to deal with them. I mean, but at least in the past, at least, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Surely we had a few days or weeks of tolerance. I don’t think we got fatigue immediately upon looking at them, did we? What do you think?

 

Joel Davis: But the thing is, if they weren’t used as a bulwark by communists, by Leftists, by jews and so on, by other immigrant groups, if they weren’t weaponised against us. If our own White guilt complex wasn’t weaponised against us through the medium of Aboriginal worship, then it could be a kind of humourous triviality, right?

 

But because they’re used against us, we’re forced, … You almost feel bad because it’s almost like they’re almost too infantile and stupid to even take that seriously. So I don’t feel the same kind of like visceral hatred or disgust or anything that I do for like many other groups that I do for Aboriginals, frankly. I just kind of find them contemptuous and goofy.

 

But then when they kind of wheel them out as a humiliation ritual, as an attack against White Australians, particularly on our most sacred day, the veneration of our fallen ancestors who gave their blood, their lives for our people, for our nation, then it’s really egregious and it has to be called out.

 

But yeah, Jacob did a fantastic job and I think it showed. What other country in the world is there except Australia where Nazis can drive consistently the political conversation? I don’t think there’s another country in the world where that’s happening. We’re the only country in the world where it’s happening and we’re the only interesting thing in Australian politics.

 

[1:00:23]

 

Blair Cottrell: Why do you think that is happening? Why do you think that is an exclusive Australian situation? Why is that possible down here and nowhere else? What’s going on that’s allowing that?

 

Joel Davis: It’s hard. I think it’s a partly to do with the fact that Australian politics is so fucking boring and most Australians don’t get involved in politics because it seems like a boring activity for nerds and faggots that they don’t want to have anything to do with. And we’re the only like non-nerd faction in politics.

 

So obviously we are the ones with any kind of personality or dynamism. And it’s because we’re attracted to this very kind of radical doctrine and approach. But racism, trolling, this really is some of the essence of what it means to be an Australian. These things drive down to the core, like racist larrikinism is basically like one of the core constitutive elements of what it means to be Australian. So of course the racist larrikins are the ones that are going to be like the avatars of Australianness in the 21st century politics, however it manifests.

 

So yeah, I think all of us as a group and our associates and friends who are in our in our immediate kind of crew. That’s why we’re interesting.

 

And basically then you have this massive brigade of inner city Leftists and cosmopolitan non-White immigrants, you know, media journalists, sellouts and so on, who have this kind of cultural cabal, and then use that position to then morally grandstand to the rest of the country in the most exaggerated and ridiculous form where they pretend to be offended at everything. But Australians aren’t like that. Australians don’t give a fuck! Australians are irreverent. Australians swear all the time. We’re the descendants of convicts and we’re a colonial people. We’re kind of like rough. That’s one thing that I found frustrating whenever I visited other European countries or America was that often., …

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re too delicate. They’re too dramatic. Too delicate.

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! Everyone else is more delicate than us. Our political class is like a transplant from America. It doesn’t actually make any sense in Australian culture, but no one’s really challenging it except us.

 

And yeah, you should just see the expression in the faces of police officers when they have to deal with us. Or even when I went down to that polling booth the other day and I’m sure a lot of people have seen the video. I guess I’ll play it in a sec. When we were trolling the Liberal Party and the jews, do you know who was laughing the hardest? The people that were handing out flyers for the Liberal Party. They were all pissing themselves laughing at what we were doing! It really says it all.

 

Blair Cottrell: That laughter insinuates an understanding, a knowing that what you’re doing has some semblance of truth to it. It’s like that’s why people laugh. There’s some correlation between truth and humour. Comedians would understand it better than I do.

 

But yeah, it’s almost like someone’s saying the obvious, that’s funny! Like I said, their laughter insinuates that they understand that’s the truth!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like it wouldn’t be funny if they didn’t have an element of truth to it.

 

Anyway, enough about that. We had this pamphlet as well. It’s getting no media coverage. I thought it was just as funny personally. Maybe it’s a little bit on the nose for some people, but I mean we’ve got the Labor, you know, poo emoji, the pooh, the Pooh Labor.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what is that? What does that one say on the back?:

 

“Flood Australia with Indians. Albanese Government’s plan. Higher house prices and rents. Vibrant multiculturalism.”

 

Joel Davis: You’ve got to read the captions Blair so that it has the comedic effect. I designed this, …

 

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ll read the whole thing! I’ll read the whole thing. I’m just being lazy:

 

“Higher house prices and rents driving up demand to make sure you pay more. Vibrant multiculturalism. Not only do Indians smell great, they’re also extremely polite!”

 

Well, that’s not true:

 

“More Uber drivers. Being sexually assaulted by an Uber driver helps [chuckling] build character!”

 

Joel Davis: We love Indians on the Joel and Blair Show!

 

Blair Cottrell: And did you authorize this Joel Davis? [chuckling] Is this your idea?

 

Joel Davis: Yes, but I’ve been ordered by the Australian Electoral Commission to “cease and desist disseminating”. So we have ceased.

 

Blair Cottrell: When did that happen? Did they come to your house? What? How’d they do that?

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I got an email, and then they said:

 

“You’ve got to put an address. You can’t just put National Social Network Melbourne. You’ve got to put an address. A mailing address.”

 

Blair Cottrell: They found a technicality.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And the thing is, National Social Network doesn’t really have a mailing address.

 

But then I realised we had an old PO Box that is still active. So then I put the P.O. Box, and they said:

 

“No, that’s not good enough. You need to put your home address.”

 

And I was like:

 

“I don’t want to publish my home address. With communists firebombing people’s houses and stuff in the past with us, I don’t really want to do that.”

 

So I said:

 

“I’ll cease and desist.”

 

They said:

 

“Cease and desist or publish your address.”

 

And I said:

 

“I’ll cease and desist.”

 

So we’re ceasing and desisting. But we got a bunch of these out.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the point’s been made, the impacts there. And the elections tomorrow anyway. The final day to vote is tomorrow, I’m pretty sure. So I think it’s played out its role. The most honest Labor Party flyer! The most honest Liberal Party flyer!

 

[1:06:05]

 

 

Joel Davis: Honestly Liberal Party kind of like, builds up. You know, it starts off just making a point about the housing crisis, and it gets more and more absurd! Like, each line, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I think that one’s good. Like, to be honest, I think that one was actually funnier than even the Liberal Party one.

 

Joel Davis: Thing is that the Indians don’t have enough power yet to be able to make it into anything. The jews, they don’t have Indians on Sky News and they don’t have a bunch of Indians controlling the movement yet. They’re working towards it, I guess, but they don’t have that kind of power. So I guess, you know, no one cares.

 

And I think people didn’t really post about it much online because I guess a lot of Aussies just thought it was funny. I think a lot of people just thought it was funny and just chuckled to themselves and no one really got offended. So maybe we should have fired them in the Libshit area. We should have gone to like Brunswick and like the communist area and dumped them there or something because they probably would have seethed and freaked out about it.

 

But instead I thought we’d go to White working class areas where they’re actually getting replaced by Indians and we’ll dump it there. But then inadvertently I probably helped like the Liberals win some votes. So I don’t know, I was kind of dumb in that sense, but I thought it was funny.

 

At the end of the day, fuck both sides, obviously what matters is not Liberal or Labor, Blue team, red team, but rising above and realizing that it’s all bullshit! And you could say the same thing about both parties. The Liberal Party are trying to replace us with Indians and the Labor Party suck off the jews as well. So it’s like it’s all the same. It doesn’t really matter.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they both got similar sponsors with similar interests, don’t they?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s not really like you have a real choice. And people understand that now more than ever! Regular people I talk to in construction, old friends of mine, they just think the system is so corrupt they don’t even want to vote. They’re only voting so they don’t get fined. Like that’s the main reason a lot of them are voting. I hope that situation changes in the near future and there’s a decent option. I know there are some decent options in terms of Senators and stuff like that, but there’s no real, there’s no party that I feel is truly representative of the working class. Australian.

 

Joel Davis: No, I mean I do. I’ve become more impressed with the Trumpet of Patriots as things have gone on. Like they actually really, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Why is that? What’s going on with the Trumpet of Patriots? Why are you impressed by them? Explain.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know, I think their policies are actually pretty good. I think they have probably some of the best policies. And I like that they went, they took on Liberal and Labor. They’re saying:

 

“Fuck the Uni-Party, we’re taking on both sides. We’re not going to be the Right-wing of the Liberal Party, like One Nation. We’re going to actually take them on.”

 

And I appreciate that about them. Unfortunately, they have a very unsophisticated campaign. They don’t have good personalities, they slapped everything together at the last minute with the stupid name.

 

And so even though Clive has sunk ridiculous amounts of money into it’s an entire waste of money! I saw John McGowan on a podcast the other day saying that he was talking to one of his buddies who’s crunched the numbers and he said that for the same amount of money that Clive has put into all these ads that he’s taking out, like over $100 million he spent on all the advertising for this campaign, he could have bought a controlling stake in Channel 7!

 

Imagine he buys Channel 7, fires Kochi, replaces him with Ralph Babet. Now, Sunrise is hosted by Ralph Babet. You got Blair Cottrell doing Better Homes and Gardens. Every single segment. All the mums and the grandmas are going to be tuning into that every night as Blair shows you how to mow lawns and cook pasta and shit like that! How to build. Blair’s a carpenter, he knows how to build shit! You know, maybe you could even give me a show on there. Like, just put like a whole bunch of like radical Right-wing people on the program. Let that cook for three years and then see how many votes you get next time. You’re going to get way more votes than with this silly campaign.

 

But there’s no dynamism, there’s no real depth of thought, which is why I’ve said:

 

“Clive, you know, get in touch. You know, you could have given me 1 million rather than 100 million, and I probably could have got you more votes. You know, with a little bit of intelligence, you can see what I’m doing with zero million.”

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re on fire tonight. This is great stuff! Look, previously you’ve done some activism which was quite, I don’t want to say aggressive, but it was definitely serious. The message you were driving was a serious one.

 

Now, with this recent activism, you seem to have pivoted more to a satirical approach, like appealing to just humour. Is there any reason for that or was it kind of just a whimsical spur of the moment type thing?

 

[1:10:40]

 

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I just realised that I was a really that my horrible anti-semitism was just misplaced. I met my new jewish friends, Shlomo and Ben Shapiro, and they explained to me how they’re the chosen race of God and that I’m scum, I’m vermin, I’m beneath them and that I need to get down and worship them and serve them as their loyal subordinate. And I saw the light! I saw the light and that’s why I decided to go out and campaign for the Liberal Party and atone for my bad goy ways, you know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like the protest, whatever it is, like the leaflet drop, it’s over now. You can switch off the sarcasm. You can like get out of that mindset.

 

Joel Davis: Do you want to see the video or have you guys seen it?

 

Blair Cottrell: Let watch it. There’s going to be people who haven’t seen it. I made a little, I took some clips of it in the promo, but people need to see the full thing.

 

Joel Davis: I think someone said:

 

“A lady rang in 3AW while you were in Brighton.”

 

I wasn’t in Brighton!

 

So there’s been a bit of, there’s been, … I think that’s maybe what she’s referring to. Matt Trihey, he pulled up at the front of early voting booth in Brighton and started quoting immigration and crime statistics.

 

Blair Cottrell: The absolutely relentless Matt Trihey!

 

Joel Davis: Trihey’s been quality lately. He’s been active, he’s been on the front foot. We’ve seen good stuff this election cycle from What’s News, Lawrence. He got into a few press conferences and asked some questions. I think this election campaign the far-Right stunts have been very good. We’ve done a lot of stunts collectively as a movement.

 

Blair Cottrell: We’re evolving.

 

Joel Davis: And we have managed to consistently drive the narrative.

 

But the Liberal Party are such cucks that they haven’t really been able to benefit from any of it. They could have simply just been an actual Right-wing party and they could have used the energy that’s out there to win! Because that’s what for example, Trump did. Trump and Elon Musk, they played to the far-Right. They unbanned us off Twitter. They pretended like they were our guys, used our stunts to get elected and then rug pulled us right. And the Liberal Party isn’t even sophisticated enough to do anything like that, which is why they probably will deserve to lose tomorrow. Although, I don’t know, everyone is saying that the election’s done and Labor is definitely going to win!

 

I don’t know. I feel like Jacob doing the Welcome to Country could have unleashed a kind of series of dominoes that could potentially swing the election back the other way. Because, you know, Dutton immediately came out like an hour after on Anzac Day and said:

 

“These horrible Nazis! The Holocaust and Hitler was, … And blah, blah, blah!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Then when he saw the popular vote, he flipped!

 

Joel Davis: When he saw that everyone actually rallied behind us and didn’t give a fuck if we were Nazis, then he realised he had to get back on the right side of history.

 

Blair Cottrell: These Parliamentarians, man! They’ve got no integrity. I think Tucker Carlson was right when he said:

 

“They’re basically akin to used car salesmen and that’s what they would be in a better economy.”

 

They’re not impressive people. They’re not creating anything. They’re not very capable. They’re kind of like very, I don’t even know how to really describe it. Just mercantile of the worst kind! They don’t have any principles.

 

Joel Davis: The finest politician is, at the moment is Ralph Babet. Senator Ralph Babet. And obviously he’s brown and you know, we will deport him to “Caramel Island”.

 

Blair Cottrell: Caramel Island, Yeah. Yeah, that’s Babet. Yeah. That’s the only reason I know who Babet is, because I’ve seen the, …

 

Joel Davis: All the brown honeys, we’re going to deport to Caramel Island to be his harem when he assists us in re-establishing White Australia. That’s the official policy of Tom Sewell.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think if no one’s in the know about that meme, then I suppose, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, anyway, anyway, Babet, his response when they, he, quote tweeted, I can’t remember who, which news article, which news source, but they said:

 

“The Welcome to Country has been booed by neo-Nazis.”

 

And then he said:

 

“Good!”

 

That was his response. Imagine if Dutton had said that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that all he said? [chuckling] It was just “good”.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, just “good”.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s based, man! What a sick, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Yeah, exactly! But tomorrow when you’re voting, you can’t even vote for him. You can vote for some Trumpet of Patriots knockoff.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why can’t you vote for Babet? Is that because he’s a Senator in a different state?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, he’s not up for re-election because Senators serve double terms. So he got elected last election, so he doesn’t need to be re elected until next election.

 

So when you run for Senate in Victoria, Blair, you and Ralph Babet are probably going to be the two big names competing for the dissident Right-wing vote in Victoria. And that’ll be interesting. Maybe we can do a preference deal or something, so, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, I’ll have some high level speech writing. Like we’ve got some smart minds in the community right now.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, someone X Axe:

 

“Will this $2 get me a Caramel Island too, please?”

 

It’s going to cost you a lot more than $2, buddy. A lot more than $2.

 

Blair Cottrell: You have to be caramel [brown] too. You can’t go to Caramel Island if you’re White. That’s miscegenation, man!

 

[1:16:04]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but if you’re into the caramel honeys, you should be deported to Caramel Island because I mean, but that’s for people who are actually doing something of use. Like you have to earn it! The rest of you are just going back to your of origin. Crazy Recluse. He sent a Superchat, which was just at Crazy Recluse. Why are you sending your own?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think he might have made an error there. Yeah, he probably wanted to say something, screwed it up, sent the money by mistake. Now he’s got to send more money if he wants to actually say what he wanted to say.

 

Joel Davis: Sorry, bro. Skill issue.

 

But anyway, I’ll play this video because yeah, this is the edit that was made to fit for TikTok. By the way, if you have a TikTok account, go get this from my Telegram and post it on TikTok because it was kind of made for TikTok, but I don’t even have a TikTok.

 

So anyway, here’s what I got up to on Wednesday.

 

[Clip with Fiddler on the Roof music]

 

“Hi, my name is Joel Davis. I’m from the National Socialist Network and for a long time I was an anti-semite. But I realised quite recently once I had a conversation with my new jewish friends that actually I’m a dumb goy and that I’m a horrible anti-semite and I’m gonna go to jail if I don’t change my ways.”

 

“And so I’ve decided to come out here today to help campaign for the Liberal Party, unofficially for the Liberal Party, but I’m a big fan. This Liberal Party wants to put the jews first, giving The jews everything they want. That’s the platform. We can see here the fantastic policies on offer from the Liberal Party, in my opinion. And their plan to give jews everything they want. Israel first! Australia doesn’t even defend itself. Who cares about Australia? What matters is we must protect the state of Israel. Because they’re jews! And we’re just dumb little goys. We’re just cannon fodder. Abolish free speech! We all know that criticising jews is another Holocaust. Jail anti-semites.”

 

“The little goys like me belong in jail. Unless we can change our ways and show that we love the jewish community. In fact, we worship the jewish community. In fact, jews are the superior race chosen by God. And I’m just vermin! I’m scum! Making jews safe is all that matters.”

 

“Give jews free money. We all know the jews are doing it tough. You know, they’re short on coin. So the Liberal Party has got great policies to give the jews free money. No strings attached. And I love that. So consider this year, this election. Bring the jews first. Put a Liberal Party first. Give the jews everything they want. Vote Liberal!”

 

“Look at our policy. Great policies! We love our Liberal Party. Great policies. Israel first! Australia doesn’t need to defend itself. Why would Australia need to defend itself? I mean, what about Israel? Abolish free speech! Criticizing jews is another Holocaust. It’s another shoah! We can’t allow that. Jail anti-semites! We must jail all anti-semites! Forget criminals! Who cares! Anti Semites are the real issue. Making jews feel safe. It’s really all that matters. And we need to give jews free money because we know the jews a little short on cash, right?”

 

“So Liberal Party website. These are our policies. Not our policies. I’m not from the Liberal Party. I’m just a big fan. I’m a dumb goy. I’m a convert. I used to be an anti-semite. But now I realised I was a dumb future little bad little goy. I don’t want to go to jail. So I’m getting on the winning team! This is my jewish friends, Shlomo and Ben Shapiro.”

 

“Shalom! Shalom! And mazel tov! * You see here. Giving the jews everything they want. That’s all the Liberal Party is all about. And we’re dumb goys here to support Liberal Party. No, I once supported Palestine, but now I realise that I’m a dumb goy. And we’re here to support Liberal Party because we’re just dumb putrid little goys. You don’t deserve free speech we don’t deserve support. All that matters is the state of Israel and the jewish community!”

 

[* Mazel tov or “mazal tov” is a Jewish phrase used to express congratulations for a happy and significant occasion or event. Wikipedia]

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh man!

 

Joel Davis:

 

“What a good little shabos goy. Mazal tov! Authorized by Joel Davies, National Socialist Network.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Just dumb, [chuckling] putrid little goys, man! So I noticed Avi Yemini posted an image of the flyer that someone found in their letterbox or something before you even got a chance to post anything.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we made sure that they were distributed the night before to kind of, you gotta set the table before you eat. So Avi Yemini, he was like:

 

“Oh, how could the National Socialist Network distribute these flyers in the jewish community on the eve of Shalom Shlomo Shak!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Every evening is some important jewish holiday.

 

Joel Davis: And it’s like you have a Remembrance Day of the Holocaust every three weeks! We don’t remember what all your fucking days are, dude!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, they have that many holidays, it’s like every evening is some sort of important holiday for some reason, or even it’s not a holiday. It’s like the observance of something really sad and important to them.

 

So you can’t really get it right. But what was the general reception like? It seemed like no one really got angry with. Did anyone get angry with you?

 

[1:21:34]

 

 

Joel Davis: No, not one person got angry. And you can see when I was like:

 

“Hey, look, the shabbos goy. Look at a good little shabbos going for the Liberal Party!”

 

She started laughing and then she took the pamphlet and she was reading it, laughing while I was talking.

 

And then there was another guy off camera who was also there for the Liberal Party handing out their Liberal Party flyers. And he was pissing himself, laughing so much he had to like turn around, he was like embarrassed and like cover his mouth because he was like pissing himself laughing.

 

And then there, it looked like the woman by the way, recall the Matt Trihey incident where he went to the Teal meeting and that crazy woman freaked out and punched him in the head. Remember that? A few weeks ago. A couple weeks ago,

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, of course.

 

Joel Davis: That same woman was sitting at that park bench and even she was laughing! Because it’s the same electorate. It’s Monique Ryan. It’s the same person for the Teals, against the Liberals in that electorate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe you’re not the only one who changed their ways that day. She seems to have flipped as well.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think the Teals probably like Palestine. The only people that didn’t find that funny was the Greens. You would think the Greens, the jews keep saying how they’re anti-semites because they’re pro-Palestine. But no, the Greens, they love jews!

 

Blair Cottrell: The Greens don’t like anyone, man!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Maybe they knew who I was and they, …

 

Blair Cottrell: No, they’re kind of just on principle they’re pretty much against everything.

 

Joel Davis: For some reason, they couldn’t see the light.

 

But there were some people there that were normies, that were just like, NPC moment. Like, they had no idea what was going on. Like, they were just like, blank. And there was a few other people that were smirking and sniggering. And laughing. And we didn’t want to be too confrontational because we weren’t trying to be confrontational. We’re just trying to be funny. So we weren’t really trying to get in anyone’s face or anything. We’re just handing out a few pamphlets and the footage doesn’t show everything. We handed out quite a few pamphlets at the start and then I started kind of making a bit more of a scene, speaking more loudly and stuff.

 

But, yeah, you know, it was just funny. Like, it’s obviously funny. And that’s the beauty of it, too! Like, what law did I break? Like, is it. Is irony illegal now? Like, how do you legislate for irony?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, what’s that Isaac Butterfield? Have I got his name right? There’s a comedian which is currently., … I don’t think he’s being charged with anything, but the Human Rights Commission, I believe, did contact him regarding one of his jokes about Aboriginals. So he’s locked up in. I don’t know if it’s a legal battle or not, though I won’t say anything else about it because I don’t have enough information.

 

However, I do know that there’s this precedent for “intent”, especially when you’re drawing attention to one specific religious or ethnic community. There’s a legal precedent for intent. I know because I was one of the precedent cases years ago for:

 

“Intent to incite ridicule, revulsion or contempt for a specific class or group of people.”

 

That’s what I was convicted of and I was one of the first people convicted in the state of Victoria under that piece of legislation. And that’s a funny one, because intent can be, … Pardon?

 

Joel Davis: That wasn’t my intention there. My intention was just to defend the policies of the Liberal Party. Because apparently it’s illegal to criticise them. Well, when I tried criticising them five months ago on the steps of Victorian Parliament, they raided my house and they said I was a very bad boy for doing that! So now I’m like:

 

“Okay, fine, you win. I’ll join your team. Okay, I’ll join your team!”

 

Everything in that flyer was factual, other than maybe, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but doesn’t matter. Truth doesn’t really matter in court. What matters is what can be proven. But I think as long as your intent wasn’t actually to target the jewish community specifically, as long as your intent was just to be funny or to be satirical, I think that’s fine.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I mean, it’s funny because one of the policies of the Liberal Party is the jail anti-semites, apparently. And they said:

 

“Oh, no, that’s horrible neo-Nazi propaganda. That’s not one of our policies. Anyway, we’re going to send you to jail for saying that!”

 

All these jews were calling for my imprisonment. They were calling we should be declared “terrorists”. Apparently that was terrorist. Apparently doing a, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Who said that?

 

Joel Davis: I saw jews on Twitter saying that I’m a terrorist and that the NSN should be declared a terrorist organisation for doing jokes. And it honestly that was probably the most jewish thing I’ve ever done in my life. Like, it was a very jewish comedy style, like Borat, like goofy skit. It was kind of like Sam Hyde meets jewish comedian meets, like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Where’s that jewish comedian? What was his name? Neil would know who I’m talking about. God, what was his name? He dug a hole. I’m wondering why he isn’t weighing in on this. He was on radio for quite a while and he dug. He’s known for doing all sorts of weird stunts. He dug a hole next to his mother’s grave so he could scream out in the hope that she would hear him. Her corpse. He was asking her corpse if it was okay if he married a non-jew. What was his name again? Guys, in the comments. Does anyone know who I’m talking about? He’s like this Australian jewish, you know, shock jock, radio hosts, and maybe someone will remember his name. But he’s kind of been absent for the last few years. He was pretty much into political commentary when I was active, you know, five or six years ago. But now he’s gone and I’d like to get his 2 cents on this kind of thing because it’s up his alley. Yeah, there is a general, … John Saffron! Where’s John Saffron these days? I’d like to hear his take on this incident.

 

[1:27:21]

 

Joel Davis: Where’s like the chaser? Remember there used to be like the Chasers war. And there was a whole series of these Australian political comedians and they were all like libertarian. They were all kind of like:

 

“We’re not really Left-wing or Right-wing. We just think it’s all bullshit!”

 

Kind of like South Park comedians.

 

And then that kind of style of politics died out in the 2010s. Like, everyone became polarised and you have to pick a side. And they were no longer able to be above it all. It just became cringe!

 

And so there’s a kind of a dearth of political comedy now. And it’s like, now like actual political activists have to pick up the slack and do the comedy because no one else is capable of doing it. I guess that’s kind of unique.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s an effective strategy. Like, Australians love to laugh. Like, we don’t take a lot of stuff seriously. It’s part of the reason that we’re not interested in current official politics. One of the reasons it’s boring, is because it’s not funny. It’s not interesting because it’s not funny. There’s nothing that can be appreciated on that level of humour.

 

So I think, I’ve always said this too, from the beginning, that humour should be one of our weapons in general activism.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

A lot of people in the chat are saying:

 

“Who should we vote for tomorrow? Who should we vote for?”

 

I mean fuck, it’s not that complicated. I’ve said it before as well. I think we should put the Liberals last to punish them. You should put the Right minor parties first. It doesn’t really matter what order you put them in. I would say I like the Trumpets, but putting them. When you put someone first, they actually get money from the AEC [Australian Electoral Commission]. If they get over 4%, they end up accruing money per vote. So you’re giving money to parties.

 

So I would say, if you had a Rennick candidate, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Let me chime in. How does the AEC get money to give to parties? Is that like public money?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: I didn’t know that. I thought parties had to fund themselves.

 

Joel Davis: I think it’s a good thing. I think it’s a good thing because it means, like, if you can get a certain amount of votes, that means that you have some constituency, so then the taxpayer will fund you to run a proper campaign next time, rather than money just determining politics. But Trumpet of Patriots don’t need your money because they’ve got Clive Palmer behind them, just wasting money on their campaign. So putting them at number one, unless you really think they’re going to win, there isn’t much point.

 

So maybe put another Right-wing minor, like put Rennick at one or something else. Don’t put One Nation above Trumpets though. They don’t deserve it. But put something else at one. But just put your Right-wing minor parties in a line. There’s Trumpet of Patriots, there’s Libertarians, there’s One Nation. There’s Rennick People’s Party. There’s Family First. There’s Sustainable. There’s a bunch of them, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s two different pieces of paper. There’s one piece of paper, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it’s true for both. This is true for both. Obviously in the House you might not have as many options, depends where you live. But group them up and put the Liberals last! That’s what I think. Put the Greens above Liberals, put everyone about the Liberals. That’s what I say we should do this election.

 

People, you can disagree all you like, but put the Right-wing minor parties first. That’s what matters. Uni-Party last, Liberals dead last. That’s what my ballot’s going to be. That’s what I think everyone’s ballot should be. That’s my opinion. It doesn’t really matter what order though, because that’s how preferences work. It doesn’t really matter too much.

 

If you put, say you’ve got like a One Nation and a Trumpet of Patriots in your electorate and then you’ve got like a Liberal-Labour and a Green and some other shit! Whichever order you put the One Nation or the Trumpet of Patriots candidate. Well, the preferences. If you put the other one second preference, if you put the one that’s less popular, the preferences will just go to the other one. So it doesn’t really like matter too much. Just put the Right-wing minor parties first. It’s not that complicated.

 

Blair Cottrell: But now you’re being a bad goy, Joel, someone in the chat just said, I thought you’d seen the light and you were all about stamping out anti-semitism. Now you’re flipped again. This guy, this guy’s just got no consistency!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what I deal with. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: I did appreciate the sexy jewesses on Sky News that were fluttering their eyelids at me.

 

Blair Cottrell: And you know, oh, hey, they definitely all had to chime in and say something about you. I noticed that. And I noticed they almost seem to enjoy talking about it. Like they were fighting a smile. I think they like the drama, those women. It seems that way.

 

[1:31:43]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think basically the attitude of them is interesting because I knew that the jews would freak out and I just wanted to make them freak out because I just wanted to show the Australian people again how ridiculous these people are and how powerful they are as a ridiculous people, as a ridiculously hysterical people. And that is a problem. And all I have to do is a very slight provocation and they just show themselves again.

 

And I think what I’ve noticed since the election was called and the campaign began, notice the Liberal Party shut up about jews. For months, the jews were all they could talk about.

 

And then the election got called and then they obviously focus grouped it and they realised that Australians don’t actually give a shit about jews or anti-semitism or Israel or any of this stuff. And they’re not going to win on that platform.

 

And so they zipped it up. They kept their trap shot and just. And stopped talking about it. I just wanted to make him talk about it again before the election so everyone could remember, like this is who we’re dealing with here. And they played right into my hands.

 

And I remember there was one article that was written about it by some jewish woman in Caulfield that was like:

 

“I feel so violated that a Nazi would come up to my letterbox and penetrate it with his disgusting anti-semitic flyer!”

 

And it was like, what? Penetrate?

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s interesting.

 

Joel Davis: Why are you describing it like this? Like, it’s so weird, man! It’s kind of like they’ve got.

 

Anyway, they’ve got some weird fetish going on is what I’m saying. What? The jewish women, they put on red dresses and go on Sky News with all their makeup and they’re like:

 

“He’s so mean and horrible and anti-semitic and he’s a bad guy!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I think they go to sleep, …

 

Joel Davis: Why are you talking about me? Don’t you realise that I just did that because I knew you would talk about me. And that was like the whole point, the whole point was to make you talk. Like I just made you do that. And you’re just like,

 

Blair Cottrell: Caroline.

 

Joel Davis: You’re like my little, like jewish, you know, puppet. A little, my little jewess puppet! I can just make you yap!

 

Blair Cottrell: Goodness me! But Caroline, I think especially involves a bit of conflict. She sees it as her duty to get on there and really have a go at you after you’ve popped your head up and done something again. But she specifically is the one that seems to be fighting back like an aggressive grin. I think she just enjoys the conflict. But hey, this is only my observation. I could be wrong. Maybe they’re traumatized, going to bed, scared for their lives because of the rising anti-semitism. Who am I to know for sure?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but like if you want anti-semitism to stop rising, you can do one very simple thing jews. Shut the fuck up! Then it will stop rising. It’s rising because you can’t keep your fucking mouth shut!

 

Blair Cottrell: But you’d think something crazy! Do you think, …

 

Joel Davis: I know you won’t keep your mouth shut, so I’m just going to keep making you talk. And the more that you talk, the more everyone, it gets sick of hearing you.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you ever wonder if the jewish community, do you think the jewish community might try to inspire some threshold of anti-semitism in order to have the justification for more laws, more rights, more protections, more money? Do you think a bit of anti-semitism actually benefits the jewish community sometimes?

 

Joel Davis: No, I don’t think so. I think what benefits them the most actually is being in the shadows and is being out of the public eye.

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re not so much in the shadows. A lot of them especially, …

 

Joel Davis: They were in the shadows in Australia for decades. And they’ve only really come out into the public eye in a very prominent way in recent years.

 

And I think it’s a very bad move for them. Because they don’t have organic popularity in Australia. It isn’t like in America where you’ve got a bunch of idiot like Evangelical Christians that are ready to worship the state of Israel. Australians, no one cares about you. They either don’t like you or they don’t care! Those are the two positions that Australians have. Most of them don’t care.

 

So if you get in on the media and you get out there and you keep yapping about jewish problems all the time, all you’re going to do is make everyone sick of your shit! And you’re going to destroy all the sympathy that you have. Or if you just shut up and talk about Muslims and how Muslims are horrible and pretend like you’re one of us, pretend you’re a fellow White, that was a good strategy that was working for you. And they can’t maintain it. They can’t hold it.

 

Blair Cottrell: I suppose that’s one way Australian apathy can work against the interests of hostile groups. Because Jacob was saying that Australians tend to be a bit apathetic when it comes to politics, but it is hard to get Australians to really care about anything. It’s hard to get Australians to care about jewish suffering. It’s hard to get Australians to care about Holocaust stories. Most Australians, actually, …

 

Joel Davis: One thing they do care about though is the Anzacs. And they’re sick of being, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Because it’s tradition. They care about traditions.

 

[1:36:46]

 

Joel Davis: Not just tradition though. It’s the blood spilled for our people. It is the most important day of the year as an Australian is Anzac Day. There’s no greater expression of what it means to be an Australian than the fact that men were willing to go and die for us to have this country. That is the be all and the end all of what it means to be an Australian is those sacrifices that were made in the spirit of those sacrifices.

 

And when that is kind of aggrieved and aggressed against by a Leftist Aboriginal humiliation ritual, that’s something that got everyone pissed off and that’s why it has such a strong reaction. And you saw the system completely got shown with its pants down. It thought that it could just shove that in everyone’s face and get away with it. And they thought they could just dismiss opposition to it as:

 

“Oh well, it’s just a bunch of Nazis behaving outrageously!”

 

No, the people don’t care. They still sided with us. So people do care about some things, not many things, but some things. But one thing they don’t give a about is Israel.

 

So the Palestine people are doing a great job of pissing everyone off as well because no one cares about Palestine either. So the more that they yap about Palestine, the more everyone hates Palestine. That’s what they don’t realise. But the same is true for Israel. Both sides piss everyone off the more they talk. The smartest strategy for either of them would be to shut up! But neither of them are capable of doing so because on the one side you have Leftists and on the other side you have jews. And these are the two most hysterical, ridiculous demographics of people in all of the world.

 

So all you get is feminine screeching and yapping and bitching and moaning and our entire society is ruled by. It’s like a bitchocracy. And the common sense patriot said:

 

“They’re the forgotten men and women, the average Aussie battler who realises that it’s all bullshit and they’re sick and tired of the bitching!”

 

And we want a divorce. Get the fuck out of our house, woman. Like you haven’t made me a steak or sucked my dick in fucking years. Why are you even here anymore? Why am I paying for your jewelry? You know, why am I buying you expensive perfumes? Why are we constantly having to buy brand new couches that cost like 10 grand because you don’t like the colour of the old ones? I’m sick of your shit! I’m going to go and buy my midlife crisis Ferrari and drive the fuck out of here and go and get a new girlfriend who’s 15 years younger. That’s how Australians feel. So.

 

Blair Cottrell: Curious analogy. Curious.

 

Anyway, yeah, someone was asking in the chat how my eyes going. You might notice it’s still a little bit screwed up! I actually had a perceptible cellulitis, which was a nasty infection of the skin around the eyelid and it threatened my vision actually, so I had to take some antibiotics. I’m done with that now. It’s mostly healed, but because it was so damaging to the skin cells, it’s going to take a couple of months to actually regenerate completely.

 

So the infection’s gone, but yeah, I’m looking a little worse for wear there, but it’s pretty much gone. But, yeah, thanks for asking.

 

How have you been feeling lately, Mr. Davis? There’s been a few sicknesses going around. Have you managed to dodge those?

 

Joel Davis: I felt on the edge of sickness for the last week or two, but my immune system is holding in and I’m just continuing to keep taking forward step after forward step because I’m not going to allow myself to get sick right now. I’m on a little bit of a war path trying to troll this election. And then maybe once the election is over, I’m gonna take a week, chill out, maybe read some books, not go online too much.

 

But yeah, I don’t get sick that often. I’m feeling pretty good. But what else is there to talk about?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s been a really interesting last week or two in Australian politics and everything seems to be building up. Not building up, but heating up as a result of the election. Did you see the guy on the bike? The guy, the cyclist who was like randomly attacking a Trumpet of Patriots leafletter. I don’t know what that guy’s deal was, but after I saw that footage, this guy was like viciously attacking this old guy who was just handing out flyers, I think because someone called him a retard and he took offence to that because he does actually have a mental disability. He didn’t really seem to though. He seemed to be able to hold himself pretty well.

 

And I thought to myself after seeing that, is the Australian population, or a portion of the population so medicated that political violence doesn’t even make sense anymore? Like you’ll insult someone personally and they’ll just attack you because “that’s racist!” He was like screaming racist and shit as well. Yeah, I don’t really know what to make of the whole situation.

 

All I can say is that I’m happy that things are heating up. I’m happy that Australian politics is becoming somewhat more interesting largely because the activity of guys like yourself. And you know, election time used to be boring. Election time was boring in the past. It’s not as boring anymore. I’m glad for that.

 

[1:41:47]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, true. And it’ll be more interesting next time when you can vote Nazi and we’re going to give you some actually some real interesting politics. This is just a little appetizer what can come next time when we get this show on the road.

 

But yeah, I saw that clip of and what it made me think is Trumpet of Patriots need to “tribe and train”. You know, that was weak as piss! The guy offered no defense. He just got like rocked with like two leg kicks and then this overhand right and he just kind of cowered. He needs to shape up and throw down. You know, he’s a common sense patriot representing Clive Palmer. Imagine if he just like blocked it and just like threw a right hand down the pipe and just knocked that libtard out. It would have been epic! They probably would have got a few votes from that.

 

So you know, come and step to the guys handing out flyers for our party and see what happens. You’re not going to be cowering like little. I tell you that they’re going to give you a nice counter right to the jaw.

 

But yeah, you know what I would say is this, Australian politics is still fundamentally boring.

 

Blair Cottrell: Officially.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it does. It does seem like even though this election doesn’t really matter that much, it does seem like positive trends. I think the non-mainstream party vote is going to be bigger than ever before. It’s going to be bigger than what the pollsters are saying. The Right-wing minor party vote is going to be bigger than ever before. And it’s all very encouraging signs. Things are polarizing. And that’s what we need to get out of this red team, blue team dichotomy and into a real political dynamic where it isn’t just slight variations on the same policy, but where it’s actually a genuine ideological debate between two genuinely opposing positions.

 

So we can have a real discussion about who are we as a country and what direction do we want to go in. Are we a multiracial sludge that hates ourselves and wants to basically abolish our own history? Or are we proud White Australians that want to actually continue having a country? And that’s the defining and animating question in politics in our time. And everything else is just kind of secondary to that.

 

And that’s the other thing as well. Like these Trumpet of Patriots type people, they can’t quite own it. You know, they’re basically playing to our type of thinking, but they can’t own it. So what was precipitated was that guy was like:

 

“You guys are racist!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Well, you’re a retard!”

 

And then he had this whole conniption of like:

 

“You’re racist. This country’s multicultural!”

 

And the guy had no real counter assertion like:

 

“No, this is a White country.”

 

Or anything like that. He couldn’t say that it’s like:

 

“No, no, we’re not racist. You know, we just want an 80% cut in immigration because there’s a housing crisis!”

 

Or some bullshit! So there’s a there’s still a fear in the right to really be what we truly are, which is us! We don’t have that fear.

 

And so we’ll continue to lead the way.

 

Blair Cottrell: We’ve got a whole bunch of Superchats that we can start working on if you feel to.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, let’s just go through those. Sector 88 said:

 

“Giving money to racists and Nazis makes the world a better place.”

 

Yeah, well, you’re right. Pay up mother fuckers!:

 

“Any opinion on the Brethren campaigning for the Liberals?”

 

No opinion. I don’t really care. And I know for sure that Blair has no opinion and doesn’t care either. Or do you?

 

Blair Cottrell: Brethren campaigning for the Liberals? What do you mean, Brethren? Is anyone campaigning for the Liberals?

 

Joel Davis: They’re a relatively strange sect of Christianity. The Brethren Church.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, I thought you meant Brethren as in, like allies of ours or something. I don’t know. They’re probably being paid to do it. Wouldn’t that be the case? Why else would they do it?

 

Joel Davis: There was some controversy that they were kind of flexing and they were imposing themselves and trying to take over certain branches within the Liberal Party. I don’t know too much about the ins and outs of it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe the Liberal Party could serve as the basis. What’s left of the Liberal Party could serve as the basis for a radical Reformation of the Christian faith. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I doubt it. The party is controlled by homosexuals and jews, Freemasons. And it’s going to stay that way. Yeah, like, they talk about this like:

 

“Oh, the Brethren are infiltrating and taking over the Liberal Party!”

 

Like, as if it hasn’t already been infiltrated and taken over by other religious groups. When jews do it, when Freemasons do it, its fine! But when some other random group does it, then all of a sudden:

 

“They’re weird cults and they’re trying to take over!”

 

And there’s a huge double standard.

 

Blair Cottrell: Basically, everyone., …

 

Joel Davis: Everyone’s trying to take over everything. That’s reality.

 

Blair Cottrell: Every human group coming together for any purpose is basically a cult. We derive the word culture from cult. A cult basically means a collective of people trying to achieve something together. Right. We have like, negative connotations with the word, associated with the word cult, obviously. But I like to think of it as basically just the grouping of people with common interests.

 

Spartan Sardica just sent a single dollar. Must be tough times wherever Spartan Sardica is living. And he says:

 

“This planet deserves a singular emperor with absolute authority. And that shall be me. All those that stand against is this!”

 

Should I read this out for $1? I don’t think I should. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, I mean, if you’re going to be running the planet, surely you got more than a dollar. You can only afford a dollar a Superchat you can’t even get a whole Superchat read out. That’s how weak your Superchats are. You think you can run the planet? I don’t know.

 

[1:47:54]

 

Blair Cottrell: I thought it was like a decent Superchat. Then as I got halfway through, I realised that, …

 

Anyway, the next one’s from Comfy friend. Friend of the show and someone who is generally appreciated by the community for various reasons, sends in through. 20 bucks. Thanks, mate. He says:

 

“Blair’s eyes looking better, but the shades were a vibe, not gonna lie.”

 

I don’t know about wearing glasses inside. It seems a little bit pretentious to me, so I’m not going to do it again. But yeah, thanks, bro. Appreciate.

 

Joel Davis: Sunglasses seem to infect your personality. Like you had this, like. I don’t give a aura through the whole stream.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think it’s because you couldn’t see my eyes.

 

Joel Davis: Pretty cool. But I feel like for the Anzac Day episode, it was almost like wrong. It’s like we’re supposed to give a fuck about this like, usually you can be all detached and stuff, but yeah, because your eye obviously. But it wasn’t just about the eye though. The sunglasses, they were like a spiritual exoskeleton that like transformed your self image or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that how you feel when you wear the Joel Davis signature wraparounds?

 

Joel Davis: No, not really. Because they’re a different style of sunglasses. They got a different aura about them. Aura. It’s real. M. Cottrell said:

 

“Team Blair always!”

 

I don’t know. Is that? Do you know who that is?

 

Blair Cottrell: That could be a family member or it could just be someone with a similar name. But thanks.

 

Joel Davis: They use a little black emoji doing this. What? Use the White emoji. Like, what are you doing?

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe they’re just really tanned. Maybe they’re really tanned.

 

Joel Davis: Whatever it’s fucking up Spartan SA Delka said, this guy’s sending all these $1 Superchats:

 

“If we lived in a democracy, there would be no mass migration because most are against it. I would be against it if they had all the information about it. Jew clown world has encouraged crime.”

 

Well, this guy’s really sending down the red pills. He’s blowing our minds right now. I never thought of it that way before. Lucky Kavanaugh said:

 

“Jacob Hersant is an Aussie hero. White power!”

 

Yeah, I think we can all agree on that. We love Jacob.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Jacob’s, …

 

Joel Davis: On the stream, Jacob is so like proper or on his videos.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s a very humble, personable, funny guy! He’s very funny in real life.

 

And so I was working on loosening him up a little bit. But we’ll get there in the end. I’m sure we’ll get him back on and we’ll get a little bit more of the authentic Jacob personality out there. I’m confident that you guys will like it.

 

Joel Davis: I think he does it on purpose. Like he has obviously that personality. He chooses to because he’s trying to be professional. Jacob’s very professional. That’s one thing that he brings. I mean, obviously he invented the NSN, but one thing that he brings to it is a spirit of professional professionalism. He’s always pushing for high standards in various ways, including aesthetically. And that’s important because you have to carry yourselves well in order to be taken seriously and to convey a very particular aesthetic. You have to be very intentional. So Jacob is a very professional person in the way that he conducts himself as an activist. And so obviously that’s why he’s doing that.

 

But yeah, the Jacob off camera is always taking the piss and bantering constantly and so on. I think the people would probably like that on stream. So we got to work on bringing some of that out, I think.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Lucky Kavanaugh sent through. $10. Thanks very much, Lucky. And asks:

 

“What do you think of Shilo or Shiloh Hendricks?”

 

Is Shiloh Hendrick the girl that raised all that money recently?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, she raised like a quarter of a million dollars because she called the nigger, a nigger, or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Honestly, man, just giving some random woman money for no reason, especially that much. Well, it’s not for no reason, but you know what I mean. It’s not really for any constructive long term purpose that’s going to benefit the entire community, isn’t it? It’s all just going in one woman’s pocket. It doesn’t sit well with me. It just doesn’t sit well with me. But people can do whatever they want, right? People can do what they want.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it is weird! It is kind of like a weird phenomenon. I don’t really know enough about the particulars, but like, why are people dumping more money? Like, surely she’s got enough cash now.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s one of those. It began as like this community endeavour to demonstrate that we can support each other in a really effective, meaningful way. I don’t know something like that, but it just., …

 

Joel Davis: I think I know why, though. You know how a few, you know how like a month ago there was that black guy in America and he stabbed that White football player and everyone was horrified! And then the dad cucked out and was like:

 

“I forgive the nigger. He didn’t mean it.”

 

But he stabbed his, …

 

Blair Cottrell: I did see that, actually. Yeah, I did see that?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it was a massive story. Then the black community all took this guy’s side. Even though he stabbed some dude for asking him to like move over or so I guess some literally like simple and banal request, he stabbed this guy to death.

 

And then the black community took his side and they raised all this money. Like black started like giving all this money to the GiveSendGo for his family.

 

[1:53:18]

 

Blair Cottrell: So this is like:

 

“We can do it too sort of thing. Fuck you!”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! It’s like:

 

“Next time blacks get pissed off as at a White person, we’re just going to give them shitloads of money to show you!”

 

So it is a good expression of tribalism I think for American Whites.

 

But it’s like what they have is like a monkey stabbing an innocent young, good looking young White football player who had his whole life ahead of him in the heart and killing him forever. And all she did was call someone, I think a nigger was stealing from her, like stole some shit out of her baby’s pram. And she’s like called him a nigger or something. I can’t remember the exact details. Like totally justifiable actions!

 

So it’s like:

 

“I want a White person to like murder a nigger in cold blood!”

 

And then we’re like:

 

“Yeah, we’re taking his side, we’re taking his side! Fuck that nigger! Everyone give him a million dollars!”

 

That’s when we’re on the same level, when White people are willing to do that.

 

And that’s what I want. I think we need to take our own, because blacks take their own side no matter what the circumstances are. We need to start defending White killers. Next time there’s a White mass shooter in America who takes out a bunch of blacks or something.

 

Blair Cottrell: Let’s be careful. Like we need to stay within the realm of, …

 

Joel Davis: I’m not endorsing that kind of activity.

 

Blair Cottrell: There we go. There we go.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t endorse it, that we should. Spartan Sardalka, another one of his shitty $1 yap Superchats says:

 

“As emperor of Earth, I will open a mini gas station in every abo area of Australia. First micro dose of gas will be free., …”

 

Are you Indian? I don’t think a White person could create slop like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s weird! It’s a little bit strange.

 

Joel Davis: A little bit of autism is good. It’s like sugar. A little bit is good, I guess sugar’s out. People like a lot of sugar. What’s something where a little bit is good but a lot is horrible?

 

Blair Cottrell: Meth? I don’t know. [chuckling] Maybe not meth.

 

Joel Davis: Actually, a little bit is good, but if you have too much, it’s very, very bad! It’s very, very bad!

 

Blair Cottrell: Home of the brave sent you $5. And he says:

 

“Did you see the White mum in the US?”

 

Oh, it’s the same. It’s actually the same question. Yeah, we just spoke about that:

 

“What a huge W when we disarm their cancel culture approach to race. Hail NSN!”

 

Yeah, bro. Well, thanks for the money and thanks for the support. Leeham sends through $5 and says:

 

“I like to use the word cult to insult groups. Can you please give me a better term to use?”

 

What do you reckon, Joel? Should I really ask Joel this question? Should I ask Joel for terms to insult people? Does anyone really want to? He’s probably got a few.

 

Joel Davis: I mean, you could still use it as an insult. There’s nothing wrong with that. Why not?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, generally agreed.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In that context, Anthony Scalise said:

 

“Much love and support, lads. Make sure you all support White Australia.”

 

Anthony Scalise is a great Twitter account. I call him the Boomer Whisperer. He kind of takes the message and then translates it into Boomer retweets in a very effective way. Yeah, no, he’s great, Great Twitter account. I love, love his energy. He’s always on the front foot. Absolutely sending it. And, yeah, he’s always been very supportive of us since I’ve known him and seen him around online. And, yeah, he’s also a big supporter in the future political party project.

 

And as you can see down the bottom, White Australia.org I’m going to start shilling this website relentlessly. Join the movement. Whether you want to join our movement in the sense of getting involved directly in the community, you can join there. But also you can get involved in a more basic sense, if you just want to be a supporter, a potential member of a future political party, you want to be invited to events that we’re going to host in upcoming time period, we’re building up an address book. Sign up for the political party and a vetting list and so on so that we can help build the infrastructure, the social infrastructure that can be the foundation of that party.

 

So if you want to get involved, White Australia.org and yeah, everything’s on the site. It’s a pretty basic site for now, it’s a bit of a placeholder site. We are building a much better one. We have not launched the political party yet. When we launch it, we’re going to launch it in a very elaborate form with a complete esthetic.

 

And we’re going to go there direct to do all the actual political party stuff. At the moment, we’re just building up the foundation to launch. We’re not in a rush. The election is tomorrow. Obviously, we’re not going to be competing in that. We chose not to rush it for this election. There isn’t another election federally for three years. And the next major election that’s relevant, I think, is the Victorian state election at the end of next year.

 

So there’s no rush to try and get this political party put together in two weeks. So we are taking our time because we have time before it’s relevant.

 

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Blair Cottrell: The next one is. We’ve posted one twice here. We can skip over the next one Joel. The next one’s Home of the Brave sends another $5. Thanks, mate. He says:

 

“Thank you, guys for showing the world the proper way to do flyers and do activism in general. Humor goes a long way and having a strategy for forcing the backlash. We desire outrage ju-jitsu!”

 

Yeah, well, that’s what we were talking about earlier, right? Like, there’s power in humour. It’s an effective weapon, and we need more of it. We need more of it in political activism, especially, you know, look, our situation is serious, it’s dire. We’re talking about the survival of our ethnic group into the future. But there’s no reason why we can’t enjoy the struggle.

 

There’s no reason why we can’t fight with a smile on our faces. Right. I think that might even be borrowing a quote from the Winston Churchill, the old dog. But I tend to. I like that one. I like the idea of going into a fight with a grin on your face. Yeah, sorry.

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say something about that as well.

 

Yeah. It is important that we. The activism is fun and it’s engaging, has to be entertaining and provocative. And that also, if we just had spurgey activism where we were just going through the tenets of National Socialism autistically all the time, that wouldn’t resonate with the people. We have to show our humanity and we have to show our criticism and relevance and interaction with the conventional political system. We have to bring them into a dance and create this kind of dramatic performance that show people:

 

“Hey, wait a second, those, I thought Nazis were supposed to be the bad guys or the ones that everyone hates. Like why are they the ones that are the funniest? Why are they the ones that are making all the right points? And why is the system of people who I actually hate, who are hysterical and who are hypocritical and etc. Why do they hate these guys so much?”

 

Like it creates that kind of provocative experience for someone to then start thinking differently about politics than if you just simply stated the ideas in a very kind of matter of fact, logical, autistic way. They just probably wouldn’t listen or really digest it. So I would say activism is a genre of performance art.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a good way to put it, actually. Well said. Yeah, Brilliance sends through ten bucks says:

 

“Love the show. Could I get your opinion on New Zealand?”

 

What’s your opinion on New Zealand, Joel? Do you have one?

 

Joel Davis: I mean, I’ve been to New Zealand, it’s a beautiful country. It’s like one of the Greenest places ever! I think the north island of New Zealand is some of the most fertile land on the planet.

 

One thing I think about White people from New Zealand are very pleasant and nice, but I would say that there’s something an extra level of cucked about people from New Zealand about New Zealand relative to Australia because they created a treaty with the Maori rather than just conquering and dominating, they kind of have this acquiescence. Now of course, we’ve got this Welcome to Country Aboriginal humiliation ritual stuff here now as well. But the distinction is that it’s kind of being imposed upon us late and in a way that the majority of people are kind of rejecting and resistant to.

 

Whereas in New Zealand, you know, people take a lot of pride, not just Leftists, but everyone takes a lot of pride in the whole Maori friendship thing. And it kind of, it’s kind of deracinating.

 

I feel like there’s a bit of a disconnection from the kind of White Identity of New Zealand. It’s almost like the Maori identity is primary and the White Identity is secondary.

 

Whereas in Australia when people think of Australians, they think of White Australians and White Australian culture and Aboriginals are this kind of like weird thing that’s also going on. But it doesn’t occupy a position of centrality in our society, no matter how much the Left try to make it. It really doesn’t.

 

And I think that there’s a spiritual problem, therefore, with New Zealand that I can see, I don’t know the exact solution to. I think when we take power, we’re probably going to have to subvert New Zealand for its own sake and like, conquer it. And I mean, not conquer it like it implies like a military invasion, but we’re going to have to annex it and like, psyop it into shape if we can ever win.

 

The salvation of New Zealand will probably be Australia rather than itself. But New Zealand, basically, it is a separate country from Australia, but it’s kind of almost not. Like New Zealand are kind of like a brother country. We have a shared history. We fought together in so many wars. Obviously Anzac Day we have in common, for example. And so many people from New Zealand live in Australia. I think there’s almost, 2 million people from New Zealand that live in Australia or 3 million or something, and there’s only like 5 million people in New Zealand and only about 55% of them are White. So there’s probably almost as many White New Zealanders in Australia as there is in New Zealand at this point.

 

So there’s free movement between the two countries. So any Kiwi can just move here basically and join Australia if they want to.

 

So I think we should kind of see New Zealand as our little brother kind of thing. We should see New Zealand as basically kind of an extension of Australia and then under an ideal future, it would probably be integrated into some kind of Australasian empire under our rule.

 

So I have a warm feelings towards people from New Zealand because I see them as the closest people to Australians that exist. But also, I don’t like this spiritual cuckoldry that I see.

 

And Australia isn’t in a perfect position, but, like, almost in the history of New Zealand, like, Australia’s history is very based. Like, Australia’s history is exceptionally racist and like staunch New Zealand, incredible military history. Like, you look at New Zealand at the Olympics. New Zealand will come top 10 at the Olympics and they’ve got no one there. Like, they obviously have incredible stock. New Zealand always do incredible at sports. They do incredible at extreme sports and things like that. They’ve got an incredible population, really good genetics. But because, yeah, because they didn’t crush the Maori, they should have crushed them! They should have absolutely just smashed them and taken that country fully rather than cutting a treaty. And I think that they kind of carry that legacy in a negative way spiritually.

 

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Blair Cottrell: Do you think they did that because they developed a respect for the fighting potential of the Maori? Because I heard a couple of reports from some early settlers that they were pretty vicious in warfare. And it’s kind of like it’s historically when the British Empire would encounter like considerable warriors or warriors that were considerably skilled or dangerous, they would tend to try to recruit them or do some sort of deal with them rather than just eradicate them.

 

Joel Davis: Part of it though, I think was also the French were there and they were trying to cut a deal before the French did.

 

But the thing is, like we had guns, they didn’t. Like we were a White modern population and the Maori were a primitive people. Like we could go in there and crush him if we wanted to. They took the easy way out. And I think some of that easy way out energy is there. I’m just going to be honest. And so I have a bit of contempt for that. I think that needs to be corrected in some way.

 

But obviously the Maori are far more impressive people than Aboriginals. They’re very, they are a strong people. Look at like how good they are at rugby and things like that. They’re obviously like a warrior race. So it wouldn’t have been simple beating them.

 

But at the end of the day you got to earn it. Like this kind of like let’s share a country between two races thing is just AIDS. Like if you’re not going to take it, go back to England!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. We might move on from the subject of New Zealand. I know some good people there. I’ve got some good friends there. I’m in some chats with some boys from New Zealand. I’ve met people from New Zealand and they’re Good Fellas. I’d like to go there actually to see the country and visit my friends.

 

Joel Davis: Beautiful. You got to go there. Absolutely!

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d like to get the opportunity. Maybe I will in the next couple of years.

 

Joel Davis: The most picturesque place I’ve ever been I would say. Like the nature.

 

Blair Cottrell: They filmed a lot of Lord of the Rings there, didn’t they? Lord of the Rings was shot in New Zealand. And that was good country to see on the big screen. But the home of the brave again with another $5. He’s firing away tonight. Says:

 

“It shows that there is considerable disagreement to the racism, bad mainstream belief. It’s not for her, it’s for mainstreaming racism at large. It shows it’s acceptable to be racist in 2025.”

 

Well, it’s acceptable for everyone except White people to be racist, but I know what you mean, that it’s becoming more acceptable. I wouldn’t say acceptable, but I think there’s less sensitivity surrounding White people being racist than there was probably 10 years ago, but everybody else is still that way, …

 

Joel Davis: We’re chipping away at it and it’s. And there’s a point at which you chip it away so much that the dam bursts and we’re getting close. That’s how it feels in Australia in particular.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that’s the idea. And biggest Superchat I think for tonight was from Daniel fox sends through 50 and says:

 

“Great work lads!”

 

Well, thanks very much mate for the support and thanks for watching. Really appreciate it. We kind of answered that question to some degree. The next one is from Zach who sends through $1 and asks opinion on the Maori:

 

“Do you think they’re as bad as Aboriginals?”

 

You touched on that briefly already, Joel. I don’t know if you want to unpack that whole debacle.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what do you mean by bad? Like obviously the Maori aren’t anywhere near as bad in terms of their like intelligence and incompetence. Like they’re a lot more functional of a people than the Aboriginals who, it’s debatable, are Aboriginals, even human they’re like borderline, you know.

 

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Blair Cottrell: So because I’ve personally, because I’ve always been into like heavy weightlifting, I’ve met a few Maoris, always got along with them pretty well. There’s a certain respect they have for strength. When they see strength in another man, there’s respect there, they respect it. And they’re wise too, especially when they get a bit older, they become quite measured, wise people. Relatively passive too, so long as you don’t do anything to really upset them. I’ve never really had much of a problem with them. And so yeah, there’s a certain respect I have.

 

I actually knew a guy, he was in the neighbouring cell when I was in Port Philip prison when I was younger. He was one of the youngest members in the world of Hell’s Angels at the time, one of the youngest patched in members. And we used to talk about the colonisation of Australia and New Zealand and he took the pro-White perspective even though he was like a full blood Maori. He said:

 

“I’m glad we got colonised by the British because before the British got there, we were eating each other and living in huts and shit! So the kind of quality of life we enjoy now is like far greater than that. So I’m glad for it!”

 

And that seemed to be a real common sense standpoint for someone to take. Like even though they’re not British, they can still appreciate the fruits of colonisation. And it was so rare for to encounter that perspective in someone who wasn’t White. It’s no wonder that it took a criminal mind to actually think outside the box and realise, or develop that perspective. Right.

 

So yeah, look, I’m sure there’s people, …

 

Joel Davis: They’ll say that in Australia but in New Zealand they love their victimhood.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I’ve heard stories, I’ve heard stories personally in Australia I haven’t really had much issue with Maoris but I know that people have. So it’s just my personal experience, you know.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean but obviously they’re very violent. They have very high rates of rape and things like that. I mean we shouldn’t live in a society with Maoris. They need to be removed from all White communities.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it would definitely be safer not to live with them. Can’t argue with that.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t find them as disagreeable to deal with as most other races to like talk to or whatever. I grew up in Sydney, I played rugby with Maori’s growing up and things like that. So I’ve met them and dealt with them and I never really had too many issues with them. They are kind of like more chill, slightly more intelligent versions of Africans.

 

Blair Cottrell: When they’re young they can be like really violent. We had run ins with them around Frankston where I grew up when we were younger. This is like 16, 17 years old. At that age they’re really rowdy! And you’ve got to put up a fight because they’ll stomp you if you don’t.

 

But we’ve got a viewer, Sal from New Zealand who’s a regular viewer of the show I think and she’s had different experiences with Maori’s, says that:

 

“Child abuse and domestic violence is a problem in their communities.”

 

Yeah, but yeah look there’s good and bad in every race. Right. I suppose we’ll just leave it at that. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Well, mostly bad, mostly bad. And we should have crushed them. But anyway the issues in New Zealand today are not like less so about that it’s more to do with all the Asians and Indians and stuff pouring in like it is here.

 

But yeah, the Maori question is one that if as Australians we get to the point where we’re addressing the Maori question, it means we have solved a lot of other questions. You know, the jeet question, the chink question, the jew question, the abo question, etc, so if we can get up to that question, I’ll be sleeping a lot easier. But at this point, it’s like so many rungs down all the other questions that we’re going to have to answer first.

 

But I think that’s basically a way to end the show. Someone called Nate Higgers on Odysee said:

 

“How do I donate money? Lol. I’m retarded!”

 

I don’t think Odysee allows you to do Superchats anymore. They lost their payment processor. So you can only do it either on Rumble or on Entropy. Entropy. Stream dot live dot Joel Davis. Those are the only two ways.

 

Blair Cottrell: If you guys are going to do that, if you’re going to sit up any later, do it with Joel. Because I’ve got to get out of this LED light. It’s starting to hurt my eyes.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, we’re ending the stream there. I’m just responding. Ending the stream there. You can have a crack maybe next week or something if you want to, but I’m tired. I’ve had a very busy week in ways that I can’t even get into. There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we can’t even talk about that you don’t even know. It is a weird life being a Nazi dissident. But I love it! I’m enjoying it. I’m absolutely loving life. I hope you’re all loving life too. It is a gift. Every breath is a gift. God is great and let’s end it there. What a nice sentiment to end it on, if I could say so myself.

 

And thanks to the jews for falling for the trap again. You guys never fail, never fail to fall into my traps. So appreciate it. It was fun.

 

That’s one thing. When we do some of the other activism, I get different kind of emotions. Like, I get more of a spirit of like, anger or passion or like whatever worry, concern, things like that at the plight of our people. With the jews, I don’t know. That’s the kind of the funniest aspect I feel like we were just like pissing ourselves laughing after we left the other day. Like, that was just really funny in real life. Like, even the process, like when the boys put on the rabbi costumes or whatever, and we were just like pissing ourselves laughing, like:

 

“Okay, we gotta, like, act normal. We’re gonna be on camera!”

 

It was pretty fun.

 

Blair Cottrell: Thanks for watching, guys. It’s been a good stream. I hope everyone enjoyed it. Goes hard when we do a couple of different guests and stuff. We should maybe look at doing that a bit more often. Keeps everything fresh and interesting. But Joel did a great job as always. Jacob was great! Keep the faith, everyone, and we’ll see you next week.

 

Joel Davis: White power!

 

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katana17
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[Joel Davis – Nazi Trolling is Still the Only Interesting Thing in Australian Politics – May 2, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/05/04/joel-davis-nazi-trolling-is-still-the-only-interesting-thing-in-australian-politics-may-2-2025-transcript/ [Cover Image] [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Blair Cottrell Jacob Hersant and Joel Davis discuss recent activism and the Welcome to Country booing incident causing much debate in Australia. Some key points: Jacob Hersant joins as guest host Discusses booing Welcome to Country at Anzac Day ceremony “I was booing only the Welcome to Country and mentions of diversity”-Jacob Explains Welcome to Country tradition in Australia Describes reaction of crowd to booing “Most people actually supported what we did, but the people there were…nervous”-Jacob Discusses motivations for activism Mentions legal issues from previous activism “I suspect I’ll be charged for that again”-Jacob on potential charges Talks about public response to booing incident Discusses NRL dropping Welcome to Country after incident Mentions Tucker Carlson’s comments on Welcome to Country “Welcome to country statement is basically psychological preparation for having your country taken from you”-paraphrasing Tucker Carlson Jacob discusses White Australia movement “We want the people on this continent to identify primarily with their race as White Australians”-Jacob Joel Davis joins as host [56:42] 1/2
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katana17
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Discusses recent satirical activism at polling booth “I just wanted to make him talk about it again before the election”-Joel on provoking jewish response Talks about election campaign and far-Right stunts Discusses voting recommendations for upcoming election “Put the Right-wing minor parties first. That’s what matters.”-Joel Talks about Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots party Discusses recent incident of cyclist attacking leafletter “Australian politics is still fundamentally boring”-Joel Discusses Superchats and donations from viewers Talks about Brethren campaigning for Liberal Party Discusses Shiloh Hendricks fundraising controversy “Why are people dumping more money? Like, surely she’s got enough cash now.”-Joel Talks about racial tribalism in fundraising Discusses New Zealand and Maori relations “I think when we take power, we’re probably going to have to subvert New Zealand for its own sake”-Joel Compares Maori to Aboriginal Australians “Obviously they’re very violent. They have very high rates of rape and things like that.”-Joel on Maoris Discusses personal experiences with Maori people Talks about child abuse issues in Maori communities “There’s good and bad in every race. Right.”-Blair Discusses other racial issues in New Zealand Final thoughts on recent activism “We were just like pissing ourselves laughing after we left the other day”-Joel Closing remarks and sign off – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 23,080 – Duration: 136 mins]
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Australiaboy
5 days ago
Great show guys thanks. If Blair is worried about LED lights and his eyes he should invest in some blue light blocking glasses they cut out all the bad blue light from screens also good for driving at night with all the weaponised headlights.
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RamonYolanda
5 days ago
Too many white Australian men” taking Asian women as wives and destroying our heritage
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KINGMAGNUSMUISC
5 days ago
“Putrid little Goy”
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masklophobix
5 days ago
Karmelo donations were a thank you for killing a white kid. Shiloh donations are a F you to blacks.
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ProvingNihil
6 days ago
That father who defended that n!gger is a pussay.
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masklophobix
6 days ago
WTC overtly implies that the people being welcomes do not belong there.
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leibekohne
1 week ago
Is not ANZAC WW1 and WW2 kind of the same coin Where Australians had been duped into those useless wars fighting for jewsh financial and territorial interest, manipulating UK monarchy to fight our white German brothers who even in those cases did not stared those wars.? Where not then Australian politician puppets and traitors to civilized white Australian stock? Therefore celebrating ANZAC is ridiculous, it would make sense only when, those jewish scum responsible , would have being punished first for mercilessly using Australians Canadians as depopulating canon-fatter.
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Sinagoglies
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It is very odd that they promote warmongering politicians of the past and don’t go near the unjust reasons (Zionist bankster wars) behind both world wars, and downplay the Soviet satellite state called Israel who the ANZACS actually died for – nothing to do with freedom. AUSTRALIA WAS BETRAYED by Billy Hughes and England , yet Joel glorifies them. Australia had the largest death toll in WW1 comparative to population. You guys are bloody ignorant. General Patton was relieved of command of the 3rd Army by Eisenhower just after the end of the war for stating publicly that America had been fighting the wrong enemy – Germany instead of Russia and was then murdered! Anti (Zionist /bankster) War song: The Pogues – The Band Played Waltzing Matilda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThjY_qlEfg The ANZAC Fought for Israel NOT For Your Freedom https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mee2fiKxJUOY CHABAD, Soviet Israel☭Russia (& British-Israel high treason). The Perestroika Deception! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmsz3F-y1c The Pogues – The Band Played Waltzing Matilda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThjY_qlEfg The ANZAC Fought for Israel NOT For Your Freedom https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mee2fiKxJUOY CHABAD, Soviet Israel☭Russia (& British-Israel high treason). The Perestroika Deception! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQmsz3F-y1c The Secret Masonic Victory of WW2 Documentary by Dennis Wise https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZpO5RMr0WXaN/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO1wKDH3BQA&feature=youtu.be Most of the leaders of the Allies were and still are freemasons including Weary Dunlop. I know of an ANZAC unsung hero who wrote a book WW2 criticising the military leaders of The Allies, but could not get it published as was far too controversial. Germany against Freemasonry https://historycollection.com/secret-society-peril-facts-freemasons-ww2/2/ EUROPA: The Last Battle – Part one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6QNO4Z_tuQ
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Love what you fellas are doing with one of the greatest White countries ever! This is the beginning of a multigenerational war, which ends in total White victory over the whole of the world.
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Whatsthefrequencyken
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NZ and Australia were both supermajority White in 1945. There was no need to “go harder”. There was a need to preclude the spread of communism. Anti-racist liberal democracy with central banking was never designed to stop that spread.
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If General Patton wasn’t assassinated he probably would have become president instead of Eisenhower and he would have shut down the international communist movement.
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White people are looking for someone to rally around. Shiloh Hendrix has become that lucky person. LFG!
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hueyvam123
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The nogs & juice on juicetube stinking about her raising money is just too much to tolerate given how they were all cheering the nog who killed Austin Metcalf raising money for murdering a White.
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Eureka1854
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Shiloh Hendrix just went nuclear, and for good reason.
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Heil Shiloh Hendrix Heil the White Race
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whitehonkymonkey
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like i said in the chat, target footy and cricket crowds with pamphlets on the lies of the 1st and 2nd world wars and the truth about hitler etc.
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katana17
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[Joel Davis – What Did the Anzacs Fight For? – Apr 24, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/04/25/joel-davis-what-did-the-anzacs-fight-for-apr-24-2025-transcript/ [In this Apr 24, 2025 livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Blair Cottrell discuss Anzac Day and its history: They emphasise the importance of attending Dawn Services on Anzac Day Blair is wearing sunglasses due to an eye infection They discuss how the Anzacs fought for a “White Australia” in World War I “Billy Hughes, our Prime Minister in the First World War, when he addressed the nation and he was basically asking people to sign up to go and fight, he said, ‘I bid thee, go and fight for White Australia in France’.” (10:00) They talk about Australia’s fears of Japanese expansion in the early 20th century Australia joined WWI to secure British dominance in Asia and maintain the White Australia Policy Discussion of Billy Hughes’ role at the Treaty of Versailles in defending the White Australia Policy (20:00) The RSL (Returned and Services League) strongly supported the White Australia Policy until the 1980s Debate over whether every individual soldier was consciously fighting for White Australia (30:00) “White Australia was the central animating concept of Federation. It was the central animating concept of World War I.” They discuss a quote from Billy Hughes about Australia’s destiny and “banishing” Aboriginal people (40:00) Conversation about how they developed their views
on racial inequality Discussion of Australia’s involvement in World War II, primarily as a “race war” against Japan (50:00) Cont’d
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katana17
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Britain’s decisions in WWII led to the decline of the British Empire (55:00) Criticism of how Anzac Day is commemorated today compared to the past (60:00) “When we win, Anzac Day is going to be like it used to be again. The people will be inspired again.” Discussion of a recent incident where Matt Trihey disrupted a political meeting (friends of the ABC) in Melbourne (70:00) Criticism of media coverage of the incident (75:00) They discuss the “gynocracy” and how it affects society and politics (80:00) “We live in a society where emotions rule over reason.” (82:00) Anecdotes about things being banned in primary school Discussion of men’s need for competition and outlets for energy Criticism of men who joke about being “domesticated” by their wives (88:00) They encourage listeners to protest if there’s a “Welcome to Country” at Anzac Day services (90:00) Discussion of Gerard Rennick and encouragement to vote for him in Queensland (92:00) Final encouragement to attend Anzac Day services and treat it as a “religious holiday” “Make tomorrow venerate tomorrow. Make treat tomorrow like a religious holiday. That’s what it is.” – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 16238 – Duration: 95 mins]
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Monika Schaefer: Good evening. Good day. You are listening to The Flip Side with Monika, episode three on the Republic Broadcasting Network. I am your host, Monika Schaefer. It is July 13, 2024.

 

I am very much looking forward to having a guest this evening. And he is a fellow Canadian. He has been in the trenches, you could say, for years. Actually, for decades. He was aware of really, the big picture of what is going on in this world long before I was! I think I was still playing in the sandbox [chuckling] when he was starting to tell the truth and do some things that got him into some hot water! And I’ll get him to tell his story.

 

But first, I’m going to just tell you about the summer fundraiser that the RBN is having. The Republic Broadcasting Network. And before I read their blurb about the summer fundraiser, I’d just like to say a word about this sort of thing about fundraising. Please never consider it as “charity”. Think of it more as this is just part of the cost of life. And when we are in an upside down world, then we need to take these things into our own hands.

 

Now, if we were not in an upside down world and we were living in a world where there were no lies and deceptions from government and from our institutions, then this type of thing would be paid for through our taxes and our, we would be just living a world where the mainstream media would be us! [chuckling]

 

But it’s not! So think of it as part of the cost of living. Cost of life. Yes.

 

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Now, to introduce my guest this evening, I’ve mentioned he’s a Canadian and he’s been at this for a long time. Paul Fromm is my guest, and I’m so happy to welcome him.

 

And just before I get him to say hello, I would just like to tell you that when I was first in the “hot seat”, you can say after I did my video [Sorry Mom, I was Wrong About the Holocaust] and I was starting to endure the wrath of the people in my own community as well as further afield, one of the first things that I was smeared by association, I was smeared by association for I had associated with this man, Paul Fromm! [chuckling] I think it’s quite funny now. I mean, it’s comical!

 

Unfortunately, we tend to be very much a herd creature, our people in general. We like to be part of the group, the group mentality. It seems to be very important to us in general to be accepted by our group.

 

Now, that is fine if we’re not infiltrated by an enemy. But it is really a hindrance for us when we have an enemy that moves among us, hiding themselves and doing their business by stealth and lies and deception and tricking us into believing that they are part of our group and they are not!

 

And I’m just going to give one little story about how powerful that “by association” thing is. And Paul knows all of these characters that I’m going to talk about. He knows them well.

 

When Arthur Topham was facing the Inquisition and for speech that our enemy does not like, I was putting out the word on social media, Facebook and whatnot, I was saying:

 

“You’ve got to support this man. It’s about free speech. And even if you don’t agree with everything that he says, it’s really a fight for all of us. Because if he loses this battle, then we all lose!”

 

Because really think of it as a battle for free speech. Well, then one of my good friends at the time, who I played lots of music with, and he was a very intelligent man. He was a chief forester. So he really was very competent man. But he comes back to me with this. He says:

 

“Well, I’ve checked out Arthur Topham’s website.”

 

The radicalpress.com, that he had at the time. And I guess the most recent article there was, he did a very complimentary piece, like an obituary, you could say, for Douglas Christie, who had just died recently at that time. And Douglas, and my friend says:

 

“Douglas Christie, he defended Ernst Zundel! And now Arthur is writing good things about Douglas Christie! So, no, I’m not going to support this man. Sorry, Monika. No. Done! I’m not!”

 

So this was like a third degree of association, really. Third degree of association. So a lawyer defends Ernst Zundel. Ernst Zundel, in this man’s eyes, was bad. And then Arthur writes something nice about Doug Christie after Doug Christie dies. And this man, this former friend of mine, does not want to support the court case, or he doesn’t want to support this man, who is really in a big fight. And I was saying:

 

“You know, listen, support free speech for this.”

 

So there you go, by association.

 

[09:07]

 

So this similar thing happened with me. People were writing things in the local paper in Jasper:

 

“Oh, she associates with Paul Fromm!”

 

Talking about me. So in this upside down world, Paul, I would take that as a great compliment.

 

Now, of course, it’s when we’re still in that world, it just seems, you know, hurtful and whatnot for both you and me. But really, we should both take it as a compliment.

 

So welcome to The Flip Side with Monika, Paul Fromm! Hello? Are you there? Okay, Paul, do you want to unmute? Perhaps you’re muted now. I see a mute button on Paul’s, …

 

Hello? Paul? Hmm. Okay. We might have to just maybe figure that out, and I’ll carry on. And then as soon as Paul can get through, I would sure appreciate it if he could let us know. [chuckling]

 

Well, I’m going to get Paul to tell his story, because he had his own trials and tribulations. He used to be a teacher, I believe, math and English. I might be wrong on that. I’ll have to get him to tell us. But he did upset a certain group of people. That same group of people who is that we’re always up against, the ones we’re not allowed to criticize, lest we be called “anti-semitic”. It’s always them. They’re the ones who are responsible for having put my brother and myself in jail for saying certain things that disagreed with their narrative of World War Two, history, the so-called jewish Holocaust.

 

Anyway, I’m not exactly sure what it was that Paul was saying at the time, but he was fired from his job. I do know that. And so since then, he’s been hard at work. He’s got several organizations under his name, the CAFE, which is the Canadian Association for Free Expression and C-FAR, I think.

 

Okay, I’m not getting a clear signal. Are you getting something there?

 

Paul Fromm: I can hear you.

 

Monika Schaefer: There you go. You are there. Good! Okay, Paul, would you like to tell a little bit your story?

 

Paul Fromm: Oh, okay.

 

Monika Schaefer: I don’t know if you could hear me. Could you hear me?

 

Paul Fromm: Yeah, I can hear. I heard everything.

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, good. So why don’t you carry on and fill in the blanks there. I was just starting to get into it.

 

Paul Fromm: Okay. Well, I’ve been a long time activist and freedom and patriotic causes going back to about 1965. And I, without going into my whole history, I have to say, and I do this by way of introduction. Well, I have two big issues, free speech and immigration. Not enough free speech and too much immigration!

 

And that’s what I’ve been pursuing for the better part of five decades. I was very sympathetic to you when you got into all this trouble. And it’s typical of the tactics of our enemy.

 

And immediately, one of the things that Doug Christie used to say about these so-called “hate charges”. That there’s a process. And it’s defamation, isolate, criminalize! So first of all, the media and others usually egged on by the usual suspects defame you. There are hysterical articles about how horrible you are and so on.

 

And then the next thing, the goal of that, among other things, is to isolate you. And exactly, exactly what you’re describing happened to you:

 

“Oh, I won’t help Arthur Topham because you said something nice about Paul Fromm. Or you associated with Paul Fromm.”

 

And so eventually, [words unclear] your supporters, because your friends or supporters are all intimidated and scared. Now that does not always work, but it’s what’s in place.

 

So in my own case, I’ve been an activist for a good number of years. I’ve been an English instructor in Peel County for 25 years. And I had a former Director of Education called me an “exemplary teacher”. So there’s never any problem with my teaching. And I kept my politics out of the classroom. I taught English, and I had fairly high standards. And I know I was appreciated because I was regularly called to do night school or summer school. So teachers who are not very good or real screw up, don’t get the invitation. I did. So, yeah, I was a successful professional.

 

And then in 1991, I went to a meeting of the Dramas [sp] Committee on community and racial relations. And at that meeting, there was a native Indian who was promoting, who was demanding more and more repression, that fascist groups should not be allowed to use facilities for meetings and so on and so on.

 

And he listed a number of things and then he said, and other measures. So I piped up [words unclear]

 

Now, I thought that was very funny. And many other people did, when I told the story over the years. What I was saying was:

 

“How far would you go? Just start [words unclear] free speech.”

 

Well, anyway, their meeting went nuts, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Paul, excuse me, can you just repeat what you typed up? Because your connection is not super clear. Not in my ear, anyway. And I just missed. What did you type up that sent them into a fit?

 

Paul Fromm: Well, no, I didn’t type up. I piped up. I heckled up.

 

Monika Schaefer: You piped up! I’m sorry. [chuckling] Okay.

 

Paul Fromm: And I said:

 

“Scalp them!”

 

You know, like how far? He was saying, “and other measures”.

 

And I said:

 

“Scalp them?”

 

Question mark. Like:

 

“How far would you go?”

 

Anyway, this was quite upsetting.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah.

 

Paul Fromm: And so I was thrown out of the meeting. And the next day, the Canadian jewish Congress and others started demanding my Board of Education fire me!

 

[16:55]

 

Notice there’s nothing I did in the classroom or said in the classroom. On my own time, on my own dime, I made a comment.

 

Okay, well, this was fought over and finally the Board of Education decided to give me a reprimand that:

 

“I shouldn’t say things like that and I shouldn’t do it again.”

 

I never agreed with that. I thought I was on my own time, you know?

 

Anyway, so by now, though, the dark forces were really gunning for me. So they came across a film about 18 months later that I had of a meeting I’d attended in December of 1990. And it was for the Nationalist Heritage Front, and I had given a speech about freedom of speech.

 

Anyway, they alleged that somewhere in the corner of the room there was a swastika.

 

Now, I didn’t put it there, I didn’t waive it and so on, but I gained guilt by association. So now they were really after me! And the Board of Education was so flummoxed that they called upon the Minister of Education to do something, because the Minister of Education had the power in those days to take away your teaching certificate.

 

Monika Schaefer: You know, Paul, just to pause there, I find that interesting. Oh, somewhere in the room they found a swastika, and you mentioned you didn’t put it there.

 

Now, aside from the fact that the swastika is, it’s been demonized, and that’s just a really false thing because swastika has always represented something good. But just aside from that, probably it was provocateur that did that, because that’s how they operate. They want to get you, so they’ll do some action that’s like it’s a provocation. And they do it themselves. Like those who want to take you out, probably did that.

 

But anyway, carry on with your story.

 

Paul Fromm: Well, that’s possible. So they asked the Minister of Education to take away my teaching certificate.

 

Now, the Minister of Education at the time was an NDP’er [sp], but he didn’t! He investigated the case.

 

And apparently there were censorship groups that burst into his office cursing him and swearing and carrying on because he wouldn’t take it away.

 

Anyway, so what he did was he set up a special committee, sorry, special inquiry under an NDP lawyer who is going to look into me and my case. So that inquiry, which was supposed to be over in a month, ended up extending about, if I recall correctly, about seven months. And they heard from various lobby groups, they heard from a few students, they heard from a few teachers.

 

And I actually did have some support from a number of other teachers. One who was, I think, an NDP’er. And she said:

 

“Well, I don’t agree with Paul, but he’s always been a good teacher and he’s never brought his views into the classroom.”

 

And several others said the same thing.

 

And I was at that time the most investigated teacher ever in the province of Ontario!

 

Now I hadn’t molested students or stolen the coffee fund or anything like that! I had expressed my own views on my own time, off school property.

 

Okay, the inquiry, it was a complicated finding, but it said:

 

“Well, his remarks didn’t go far enough for him to be fired under the present legislation, but he should be. The legislation should be changed and then he could be fired and then, …”

 

Anyway, so the board of education didn’t know what to do with me, so they decided they would put me into adult education. And many people said that was the punishment because I would now have to deal with a lot of non-Whites. Well, it wasn’t a punishment! I mean, I didn’t see it as such.

 

The adults were very motivated to learn. They’d come back to school as adults and they came back because they wanted to get their high school diploma and they wanted to learn! Whereas many of the adolescents, I mean, some of the adolescents didn’t want to learn. They’re going through a rebellious stage and they hate adults. They hate everybody! So I had virtually no trouble with any of the adults, even though over 50% of them were non-White. And I’m supposed to have been made so angry by that. I wasn’t. Things went well.

 

But finally, we now skip ahead to 1997. So they’ve been after me for six years.

 

Finally, in 1997, the board voted to fire me. And that’s because the Supreme Court had heard the Malcolm Ross case. He was a teacher in New Brunswick and he had written a number of books, one against abortion, one against the jewish lobby, and so on. Again, on his own time, on his own dime, off school property.

 

And it was alleged in the human rights theory that he created a “poisoned environment”. And we would hear that more and more:

 

“Your very existence on this earth creates a poisoned environment!”

 

And you probably heard that, Monika, in Jasper. Your very being alive, poisons things!

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. This is so interesting, Paul. Yeah. The poisoned environment and the fact that they had to make special, you know, different laws. I mean, it reminded me of Robert Faurisson. For whom they made a special law in France, just for him! It’s just really amazing how they pursued you. And they really had a hard time to fire you because you did your job very well! [chuckling]

 

You’re the kind of guy they don’t like at all because you’re intelligent, you do your job well, you’re conscientious, but somehow they have to get rid of you because you’re too wise to the situation and you’re seeing things way in advance of most of us, I have to say. Like way before, most of us have seen really what was wrong with this mass immigration and mass immigration from third world countries and whatnot. That it would change the very fabric of our nations. And look at where we are at now! My goodness! And you were really ahead of the of the curveball there on that. But please carry on.

 

[24:08]

 

Paul Fromm: Unfortunately, those were the old days and there have been enough cases since then, not just in education, that we have a new form of slavery. Your employer owns you 24 hours a day! It used to be your employer was entitled to seven or 8 hours a day of your work and diligence. And what you did on your own time was your business in more. In many cases now, that’s no longer the situation.

 

Anyway, so I hired Doug Christie. We had a couple meetings with the Board. And he put up a fantastic fight! And I was supposed to be fired in a week. And we dragged it out for seven weeks.

 

And finally my union leader said, and the union was backing me at this stage. He said:

 

“Boy, your lawyer has made some great speeches. He is really powerful! But you’re going to lose.”

 

I said:

 

“What do you mean? You just said, I’ve got a great lawyer.”

 

He says:

 

“Well, I’ll tell you what. You’re going to lose, because the day they fire you (sorry), the day after they fire you, the phone calls stop!”

 

Monika Schaefer: The phone calls. What? Sorry?

 

Paul Fromm: The phone calls stop!

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh!

 

Paul Fromm: The pressure. And so in other words, …

 

Monika Schaefer: The board was getting probably many, many phone calls. And I wouldn’t doubt that there was a big organized lobby that was making these phone calls happen. And I just would venture to say that it was very likely the jewish lobby. They are very organized. That’s just., …

 

Paul Fromm: It was them!

 

Anyway, in January of 1997, I was fired!

 

Now, I’ve had a 25 year career. I had a wife and two small children. That didn’t matter. I was out on my rear end! I applied for unemployment insurance and was turned down because I was “fired for cause”. Well, I said:

 

“We are in the process of, the union and I, are in the process of aggrieving the firing!”

 

It didn’t matter.

 

So we went to the Court of Appeal, and I had a good lawyer, Barbara Kulaszka, or the late Barbara Kulaszka. The government’s Lawyer was an oriental woman. And the judge, I swear, was drunk! And he mocked both lawyers, and in the end, ruled against me.

 

So I’m unemployed, and although we’re appealing the firing, I have no income. The appeal, nothing goes quickly in Canadian justice. Took about a year and a half, and I lost on a two to one vote by the Arbitration Board. And I did various things to earn a living. And I got back into education with a different board as a substitute teacher. And this would be about seven or eight years later.

 

And then the Teachers Federation, under complaints, after complaints of the (((usual suspects))), the Teachers Federation, decided they would try to take away my teaching license. So without a teaching license you can’t teach in Ontario. And after a big fight, they did! They voted. They said that I had “consorted”. That was the term, “consorted with disreputable people”, one of them being Representative Dr David Duke. I had been at conferences in the United States, again, all my own time, off school property. And I had “bad friends”, or, I mean “bad acquaintances”. Pretty much what was being said about you and Arthur Topham. You knew bad people, so therefore you’re no good and you deserve no help!

 

And so that ended my teaching career.

 

And I had to look for other employment. And it’s a pretty ruthless world! And I learned a lot about human nature.

 

Monika Schaefer: No doubt! No doubt you did, Paul, as did I. This isolation tactic, and you perfectly said it earlier, that first the defamation and the isolation and then the criminalization!

 

Paul Fromm: Yeah. Now, because once you’re isolated, it’s easier to take you to court. You’ve got no friends, presumably now, no money, except your own, if you have any. And you know, you’re the ideal victim.

 

[music playing]

 

Monika Schaefer: We’re coming up against the bottom of the hour, but please hold on and we’ll be right back after these messages.

 

Thank you very much for listening.

 

[29:28]

 

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[37:00]

 

Monika Schaefer: Okay, I think we’ll like to welcome you back to The Flipside with Monika and our guest, Paul Fromm. And we have a little bit more to discuss and talk about, and then we would like to take callers in the last 15 minutes of the show. So the number for that is 512 248 8252 or toll free 1800 313 9443.

 

Now, Paul, you were just going to tell us a story about your association or what they perceived as your association with the KKK. Why don’t you tell us what you had in mind there.

 

Paul Fromm: A radical Leftist author at the time dealt with the so-called Right in Canada and did a profile on me. And she called me a sort of a Fred McMurray character. You know, shirt and tie, gentle spoken, button down, and a good teacher. Okay.

 

But when it came time for my, … When they were trying to take away my teaching certificate, one of the allegations by one of my former department heads was:

 

“Well, the rumor was I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.”

 

And so when I had her on the witness stand, I said:

 

“Well, okay. Would that concern you?”

 

She said:

 

“Well, yes.”

 

I said:

 

“Well, where did you get the information?”

 

“Well, it was sort of general knowledge.”

 

I said:

 

“Come on, you’re university educated. You know the scientific method. I mean, you have to prove things. Well, what was the proof?”

 

“Oh, well, it was generally known.”

 

And I said:

 

“Okay, you thought that was the case. And you saw me every day in the English department office. Why didn’t you ever ask me? I mean, ‘is it true you’re a member of the Klan?’.”

 

“Oh, well, people were afraid of you.”

 

I said:

 

“Why was that? Did I ever threaten you?”

 

“No.”

 

“Did I ever threaten anybody else around the school?”

 

“Well, no.”

 

“Did I threaten the students?”

 

“Well, no.”

 

“So I said, nobody ever threatened you had this concern or belief, but you never asked me!”

 

Monika Schaefer: Isn’t that something!

 

Paul Fromm: And I thought:

 

“Honest to God, these people are disgusting!”

 

You know?

 

Monika Schaefer: Well, that’s, … I mean, I could think of many examples of similar stories like that wherever they could have just asked a simple question. Like the judge in Germany at one of my bail hearings, when afterwards, the justification for keeping me in jail was longer than our meeting itself, or it took longer to read it than the meeting took itself. And there were some ridiculous assumptions they made that I thought:

 

“Well, they could have just asked me that!”

 

But they didn’t. They just have their preconceived agenda, or their notion. And besides which, I’ll just say this, Paul, about the KKK. It’s another one of those things that, my goodness, have we ever been lied to about that whole organization! Not that I want to get into that now. I would be going down a whole another rabbit trail for our hour now.

 

But it’s just another one of those things that we’ve been really, really deceived about the nature of that organization and the history and whatnot, and what they did and what it was about.

 

So, yeah, just to put that. But there you go. They didn’t even ask you if you were part of it, but they just assumed you were. And that’s it. Verdict is made, and then, …

 

Paul Fromm: The fix was in. I was never going to win that hearing anyway, but I certainly landed a lot of, … Messed these witnesses up pretty well. And even through the help of Dave Lindsay, who is a sort of he doesn’t like being called a paralegal, because legally he’s not. But he probably knows more about the law than most lawyers anyway.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yes.

 

Paul Fromm: I was told at one point it would cost., … The hearing was supposed to go on for about 20 some days, and it would cost about $1,000 a day for the transcript. And there’s no way I could afford it. By this time, the union was no longer supporting me. So my entire defense was out of my own pocket.

 

Well, Dave said:

 

“We will challenge that before the committee on the basis that the Magna Carta says that ‘justice shall not be bought or sold’.”

 

And we knocked them on their rear ends with that argument!:

 

“Look, if I’m not allowed to have the transcript, if I have to pay for it and I can’t afford it, justice is being denied to me!”

 

Well, that absolutely flummoxed them! And in the end, I got my transcript free!

 

So we won a few. Maybe I didn’t win the main battle, but it was a great fight. Oh, yes!

 

And at one of the sessions, two members of the jewish Defense League [JDL, not the ADL, but similar], they were picketing the hearing that day. I mean, God knows why! They wanted me gone. But okay, that’s what the hearing was about.

 

So the two members jumped into this elevator as I got in and they tried to attack me! And two metro police were in the elevator. They did it right in front of the cops and the cops restrained them, so they never landed the blow on me. And yeah, yeah, it was, as they said back in those days, a hairy time!

 

Monika Schaefer: Oh, my goodness! Yeah.

 

And so, okay, so thanks for telling us about your story. Basically, I’m sure there, we could talk for hours about it and we still wouldn’t have heard all the interesting details about it.

 

But then, you know what I find so admirable is then what you’ve been doing for the last several decades with the Canadian Association for Free Expression and with C-FAR. What does C-FAR stand for?

 

Paul Fromm: It stands for Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform. But our major endeavor is publishing the Canadian Immigration Hotline. Our major issue is [word unclear] immigration.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right. And then you’ve also assisted and been involved, I think, to some degree or other, with many speech crime trials in Canada. And Arthur Tophams, that’s where I first met you face to face. And I know you were involved in many others. And there are current political prisoners. The two that come to my mind, and there might be more, but I’m not sure right now. But Leslie Bory, who is in prison in Ontario, and it’s probably the worst prison in Canada, it sounds like the conditions are just horrendous!

 

And then there’s Brad Love in northern Alberta. And he’s going to come out of, and yeah, … I hear some music, but it’s for a different show there! [chuckling] Okay. That’s it! It’s taken care of thanks.

 

Yeah, so we could talk a little bit about both of them. I had thought about reading excerpts, but I probably should dedicate a whole show to reading some excerpts out of their letters. I’m in correspondence with both of them. Brad Love is soon coming out. Like, I think in just a few days, maybe in a week from now or so. he did just a little tiny blurb here when he was writing, this was back in, let’s see, May. And there were lots of fires.

 

And so he was a bit concerned about his home. Because eight years ago he lost everything. And he says:

 

“Please, not again, Lord. But my landlord says all is well up there. Yet, still I’m nervous. I’d call the Mayor up there, but he would call the cops on me or he called the cops on me in 2020. I’d call the newspaper. But yeah, the same thing I kid you not! Oh, yeah. Radio station as well. And two MP’s. Should I continue?”

 

So [chuckling] you see, he’s in jail for writing letters and making phone calls to these representatives that are supposed to be available for us, the citizens! But that’s what he’s in jail for, because I guess they feel that he is pestering them too much.

 

And then there’s Leslie Bory, who has been in jail now for 16 months plus. And he has not yet been formally charged. Is that correct, Paul? Can you talk a little bit about that? And then we’ll take some callers before we reach the top of the hour.

 

[46:37]

 

Paul Fromm: The great abuses of the Canadian justice system is the remand system.

 

Now, you have a right, if you’re accused of a crime, charged with a crime, to get reasonable bail. That is a right. And it can only be canceled for very serious reasons.

 

Now, we, without naming names, but summarizing, there are a number of instances recently of people even, who’ve been accused of murder, who are out on bail, armed robbery, shooting people, blah, blah, blah, out on bail!

 

But political dissidents, like one of the leaders of the truckers Freedom Convoy, Tamara Lich, she’d been in jail for 57 days, denied bail, and when she finally did get bail, she was virtually a prisoner in her own home, not allowed on the Internet, etcetera. Political dissidents have trouble getting bail. And that was Leslie Bory. Leslie had his own little television program on the Internet, I think it was called Brantford TV. And he took some pretty strong stands about, about jews, about police, and so on.

 

And so he did a broadcast on February 11th of 2023. Four days later, …

 

Monika Schaefer: Two days later, I believe.

 

Paul Fromm: Yeah, two days later the police show up armed, to the job he held in a workshop, and guns pointed. The guy was unarmed.

 

Monika Schaefer: He said he had a lunch kit in one hand and keys in the other hand, and they took him down, you know, SWAT team, like. Yeah, like a dangerous criminal style!

 

Paul Fromm: The police were raiding his home. They stole his computer and various towers, and his wife was taken off in handcuffs, put in a police cruiser. They put those spike strips across the street, blocked the street off. The woman is unarmed! And she was never charged. There was nothing to charge her with. But anyway, …

 

Monika Schaefer: So it’s to make a big scene, isn’t it, to show the neighborhood:

 

“There’s a very dangerous man living here!”

 

I mean, they did that to me. They came with their flashing lights, two of their, you know, reds and blues vehicles. And I lived like half a block from the RCMP station in Jasper, and yet they drove over with their lights going full bore. And I lived in a co-op there. So dense housing and so that all the neighbors could:

 

“See what a dangerous person lives here!”

 

[chuckling]

 

Paul Fromm: What did she do!:

 

“Oh, my God! Are our dogs even safe around her?”

 

But so it was a high impact takedown, and he was charged with three counts of uttering threats against groups, not individuals.

 

And then later he was charged with one count under the hate law:

 

“The willful promotion of hate against a privileged group.”

 

In this case, jews. And one count of:

 

“Willfully promoting genocide.”

 

And, okay, all these are non-violent offenses.

 

Monika Schaefer: If I could just interject, Paul. He’s the messenger. The long and the short of it is that he is the messenger. I say don’t shoot the messenger!

 

I mean, this is how it is right now.

 

And we do have a caller on the line, but if you’d like to just complete that thought briefly, we’ll take the call.

 

Paul Fromm: Anyway. He’s basically in there for running his mouth in a politically incorrect way.

 

Monika Schaefer: Right.

 

Paul Fromm: He had bad thoughts as opposed to people who get bail who did bad things, or I should say, do bad things, anyway.

 

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. The irony is he could be in jail already, sitting in jail longer than what the charge would merit, as in the he’s already, … Like, they won’t let him out until he’s already served the time. That even if he’s guilty of some crime, like, you know what I mean? Like, they just hold him there.

 

Paul Fromm: He probably already has. Anyway, that was February 14, 2023. Despite numerous attempts to get bail, they have failed. Bail denied. He remains there in warehouse. And there is a very large number of people in Canada, particularly in Ontario, who are essentially being warehoused. They call it “remand”. They’re not given bail, and they’re just there in bad conditions in a prison week after week.

 

He is now being in for over 500 days. We’ve had six protests outside the prison to support him, and this is a real injustice. His alleged crime are bad words and bad thoughts! He hasn’t hurt anybody. But the system fears the thinker far more than they do the guy that goes and beats someone.

 

Monika Schaefer: That is the key, Paul! The system that is composed of the criminals. The criminals are running the show. They fear the speech. You know, the truth more than anything else, because that is exactly what will undermine their power!

 

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Paul Fromm: If your audience has ever read Alexander Solzhenitsyn. He described the conditions in the prison camps, the Gulags, and yes, things were not very good for anybody. But killers and rapists and robbers were not treated as badly as the political prisoners. That incident is punished far more!

 

Monika Schaefer: This is what we’re seeing now. Mr Producer, could you bring in Larkin from Texas? Because we just have five minutes remaining and we’d like to., … He’s been waiting for a while there. Are you there, Lark?

 

Lark: I am. Thanks, Monika.

 

Monika Schaefer: Go ahead.

 

Lark: And how are you, Paul? Paul, I must say that I’ve long wanted to talk to you. Quickly. Are you familiar with Sam Dixon?

 

Paul Fromm: Oh, yeah. Great friend of mine.

 

Lark: Yeah. Maybe you could talk to him sometime. He did a keynote address on behalf of Richard Spencer and his group a dozen years ago and you can find it online. It was called America the God that Failed. And in the first couple. In the first couple of minutes, Mr Dixon describes himself as a communitarian.

 

So this is an important word that I want to bring to your attention because I’ve been researching this for 20 years. You know, I learned quite a bit about what you are confronting by a Professor, the late Doctor Harrell Rome.

 

Paul Fromm: Oh, yes, I knew him years ago. Yes.

 

Lark: Yeah. His stuff is still to be found on the Internet. But and this is for you too, Monika.

 

The truth is, you guys are running into what’s called R2P, or Responsibility to Protect. And this is a part and parcel of communitarian law.

 

Now, all law enforcement in America since the Patriot Act post 9/11 has been communitarian law enforcement. And it’s taken hold of the courts. Don’t forget that on day 9/11, 2001, it was a Canadian that was captain of the ship there at NORAD in Colorado Springs, Colorado. They basically were part of the command structure.

 

So the point is that a lot of Canadian history, as we all know, has been tied to the hip with the events that occurred in America over time. And we’ve heard talk about the North American Union and stuff like that. Well, this is actually occurring right on our watch.

 

But here’s why it called. If you do a search, it’s called COREVALUES, all capped. One word. COREVALUES. It was published in 2013. I’ve already supplied a link to the board op for your benefit, Monika and Paul.

 

Monika Schaefer: Thank you.

 

Lark: And yeah, if you guys look at that, you’re going to get at the root of how it is that you’re being railroaded and essentially being harmed by the justice system. And because we have simply not been made aware, we were never sent the memo that the new law of the entire world in a hyper connected time is the same law as the European Union, because that’s the legal undergirding. And that law in the European Union is known as Communitarian Law. So I’ve dropped you a few breadcrumbs. You can always reach out to me if you ever want to talk. But this is what’s at the root of what has happened to you, Paul.

 

Paul Fromm: So you’ll have to give us a contact.

 

Monika Schaefer: Thank you, Lark, for that call. Excellent call! And I do see the link there, so maybe, Paul, you can see it as well. We can use that link before we lose after the end of the call here. And we just have about a minute left. But thank you again, Lark, for the call. Excellent information.

 

So, Paul, would you like to tell people where they can find your work, your newsletters online, that kind of thing? Go ahead.

 

Paul Fromm: Yes. Well, first of all, if you want to contact me and get samples of my newsletters, email me at Paul@paulfromm.com. That’s Paulfromm.com. The free speech website is CAFE. Cafe.nfs.host.com. Or go online for the Canadian Association for Free Expression and you’ll get the contact there.

 

Monika Schaefer: Paul, 10 seconds. What about any other words to take us out?

 

Paul Fromm: It’s really important that you support the people who are in prison, the political prisoners. Get the address from Monika or me and drop them a note.

 

Monika Schaefer: Freespeechmonika.com has the political prisoner addresses. Thank you so much! Thank you, Paul, for coming on our show. And thank you, Mr Producer, for your excellent work. And we’ll see you next week.

 

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Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to tonight’s Book Review. We are here tonight with Student X to review his book, Equal Training. And we are live tonight on Odysee, DLive and Rumble. The usual platforms. We’re also live on Entropy. If you can share this stream, that will be very, very much appreciated.

 

Obviously, I’m expecting there to be a bit of a hit in numbers tonight. I’m not expecting this to be the usual book review because sadly, the football is on, so unfortunately, what can you say? It’s gone into extra time. The very multicultural England team are taking on the very homogenous Slovakia. And I’m sure that many people are tuning into that.

 

But if you can help us get a few viewers in, as I say, we’re not expecting the usual numbers, but we shall soldier on regardless and hopefully a few people will pick it up on replay. So England are now winning two one as well.

 

Anyway, let’s get straight into things. Oh, by the way, we’re going to do the new usual format.

 

So if you like the book review, if you like what we do, please do send a Superchat. You can Superchat via Odysee or Entropy.

 

So let’s get into this and we’ll start by introducing our special guest, Student X.

 

Now, he’s written a book, it’s a different book to the sort of books we usually review. It’s more in line, I would say, with a textbook, sort of a self help textbook, which is aimed at students.

 

But I’m not going to say anything more than that. Let’s let him speak for himself. Student X, this is the first time we’ve worked with you. Do you want to tell us a bit about yourself, your personal journey, then describe the book and why you wrote it, before we get into things.

 

Student X: Yeah.

 

First of all, thanks for having me on. It’s a pleasure to be here with all of you. So, for me personally, background, I was born and raised in southern California, also called North Mexico, jokingly. And this journey kind of started out before I ever had a social media account or any online footprint. And I didn’t know that there was a broader, White positive community out there.

 

So a lot of this was done just from my own personal point of view, thinking, what’s the best impact I can have just as one person and what can I do? Right?

 

So basically, I graduated high school. My main focus was working. You know, I started working as soon as I could. And after I secured a pretty good job that would pay the rent and I had enough free time, I then said:

 

“Hey maybe I should go back and finish my degree.”

 

So I would try to attend evening or weekend classes at the local community college. And I was quite shocked by the type of material that I was encountering in there.

 

So at the time, I was pretty good at navigating bureaucracy and stuff. I had been working for large companies for a while now, and I thought:

 

“I’m going to file a formal complaint, and I’m going to go through their process and kind of see what comes of it.”

 

So I did that.

 

I would say off and on while attending classes, this probably ranged from about 2012 through 2015. Around that timeframe. I spoke with all top officials at the school location that I was going to. I escalated things to the state level Chancellor’s office. I spoke with the AA UP, which is the American Association of University Professors, and I wound up back at the school speaking with their attorney, trying to make sense of, you know what are the rules that you operate by, basically.

 

So what I encountered through this journey was a lot of gate-keeping. All these different levels of bureaucracy, they’re selective about who they enforce the laws on behalf of and who they don’t. A lot of times they operate by unpublished criteria or resort to using undefined terms. So after I go through this whole exercise, and it became apparent to me that they’re clearly stonewalling me and they’re using this giant barrier and this bureaucracy to avoid being held accountable.

 

So I’m going through this thinking:

 

“Okay, so this is clearly intentional. They’ve got some kind of agreement going on.”

 

So I thought:

 

“How can I bypass this gate-keeping? Like, how can I work around all this?”

 

And I was also thinking from the point of, I’m just one person. I have no network. You know, my demographic maybe was around 5% of the total school demographic, and those include people going during the day, which I don’t even see or interact with. So I truly felt really alone!

 

And I thought:

 

“Okay, what are my options? What can I do to kind of disrupt all this stuff? How do I work around the gate-keeping and the people who deflect and all that stuff?”

 

So I thought, if they use the literature and the academic material as a means of putting our population on trial publicly, then my strategy was going to be to draught the criteria and the terminology that can be used to put their literature on trial publicly along with its author. You know, the thought process is I don’t control that narrative. I’m not really giving a say, which stories or collection of narratives that get picked.

 

So that’s already in place. But what I can do is expose the tactics that are being used and try to cause them to backfire, and incriminate the people who use them. Right?

 

Around this time personal and work life got really, really hectic. I actually had to stop going to classes and pivot and focus on work.

 

[06:40]

 

And I remember coming across a story of a young boy who is about nine years old, and I think his name was Aaron Dugmore, and it says that:

 

“He was bullied for being White at school and he wound up taking his own life.”

 

And that’s something that stuck with me and really haunted me. So that stayed with me. And regardless of how busy life got or when I did or did not have time, I made a personal commitment, …

 

Mark Collett: Just to interject. That’s a UK case, isn’t it?

 

Student X: That is, yeah, I believe it was out of Birmingham, …

 

But that really solidified the commitment inside of me, Mark, that said:

 

“I have to do this or else it’s going to haunt me all the way to the grave!”

 

So this is something that’s for all of us world-wide. This is not just for me to say:

 

“Hey, I’m an author or whatever.”

 

Right? This is to begin the process of actually busting up that media cache and surgically taking it apart.

 

And that’s how my work is designed to operate.

 

Natty: And just a quick question. This was one institution, or did this start in one institution or., ….

 

And then you kind of played it out in local government or the local education body?

 

Student X: Yeah, good question.

 

So I was working full-time during the day. And at the time, the only option for me to attend college courses was at my local community college, and it was on nights or evenings and weekends. So I was going through classes in the evening and weekend and I was encountering this kind of stuff, and I just thought:

 

“Hey, this is something that should be confronted!”

 

So I took it upon myself to draught a formal complaint that I sent to Academic Affairs. I copied the Dean on there as well. So in addition to taking night and weekend classes while working full-time during the day, periodically I would have in person meetings with that Dean or members of Academic Affairs or whatnot. And it’s kind of sprinkled in wherever they could fit on the schedule.

 

So that’s what happened at that specific location.

 

And then when I was not getting what I wanted, when they were not being cooperative with me, I looked to higher levels that I could escalate. So that went to the state level Chancellor’s office. In California, they have a state level office for Chancellors. I then went to outside institutions like the AA UP, which is An Association of University Professors. And they pride themselves on “academic freedom” and “freedom of speech” and things like that. So it actually started local, but I went to, I basically exhausted the whole bureaucracy to say:

 

“Okay, I’ll go through this whole process!”

 

Because it felt like they were trying to exhaust me, so I quit.

 

And I’m not that kind of person. I’m like:

 

“Okay, you want to take the long way? We’re going to go the long way!”

 

So I kept notes, I kept all my emails. I kept all my communications, to this day. It’s all there. I have all the receipts for it, just so I can go back in the end and say:

 

“Hey, you gave me wrong information six months ago! You sent me down the wrong path six months ago. You said X, Y and Z.”

 

So that was the purpose of me co-operating and going through all that so I could really remove all of their excuses.

 

Natty: And to be clear, when you started this process, you weren’t ideological. You’d just seen some of this stuff and it was starting to weigh on your mind. And did you have any expectation that the process would actually work, or did you go into it knowing, kind of having some expectation that you were going to be stonewalled and you were going to get sent around the houses?

 

Student X: Well, I mean, I was already somewhat aware simply because of the location I grew up. Right.

 

So when I went to high school and stuff like that, there was like a lot of gangsters there from each population. I already knew that just from personal experience. The piece that got to me is, why are the teachers chiming in? Why are the teachers going on with this and doing it? Why is the administration and the faculty entertaining this? My thought process was:

 

“Hey, if you’re an employee, if you’re on payroll at this school, you have behaviour requirements that you have to meet as an employee. This piece shouldn’t be optional for you to go along with.”

 

Like, I expect it from the student body, but not from the people who are supposed to be the working professionals.

 

So that’s the piece that caught me by surprise. And that’s the piece that said:

 

“Hey, I’m going to bypass arguing with students and everyone else.”

 

I’m just going to go directly to the administration and say:

 

“Hey, what are the rules that you’re supposed to be operating by? Let me see those. I want to review those.”

 

And that was really the path I took.

 

Natty: And just one more question before we get into the kind of, the content of the book. You, in the first few chapters, you outlined that you didn’t have a lot of money growing up. Your family didn’t have a lot of money growing up, so you were kind of working class.

 

I mean, I know we’re in the UK, it’s a little bit different, but there are ways, if families have enough money, but they can avoid kind of racial schools and go to homogenous schools, whether, you know, White schools where the kids are well behaved. You didn’t have that option, presumably.

 

Student X: No.

 

Natty: And it’s very, it’s all very well to say:

 

“Oh, well, you shouldn’t have gone to that school!”

 

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Student X: And, well, to clarify on that, though. My grandparents raised me. I was taken, … They took me into their custody. I think I was around one or two years old. I was very young. Simply because my parents were not fit for it, right? And in the area I grew up in, the only other White families were that generation of grandparents that was left. Everything else that had moved in was from different populations. So there may be like four or five other sets of grandparents in that whole community.

 

And this kind of just grew up around them. You know, they bought that house 40 or 50 years prior, and then it got socially engineered into a pretty ghetto atmosphere. But you also have generational differences too, because my grandparents generation were big on manners. They were big on like:

 

“Hey, if you mouth off, you deserve a fat lip!”

 

You know, they just handled things differently. And they wouldn’t understand if they were to encounter somebody behaving all nasty like these anti-Whites do, they would think:

 

“Oh, that’s just one person. Maybe they’ll work out of their system. Maybe it’ll stop one day.”

 

They don’t know that this is actually receiving government funding and academic support, and people are making careers out of this, and it’s not gonna go away!

 

So that’s not really something, … It’s hard to communicate something like that to someone in their generation. Because they don’t understand the reason why people want to engineer conflict like that, you know?

 

But going back to what you said, it was working class, they were older, they were fixed income. I didn’t want to request money or anything like that from them. I didn’t want to, like, burden them. I was kind of born into this. I grew up with it from grade school to high school. Started working on my own, and really just became independent and kind of just left without saying anything, you know, as far as the reasons why. And I just kind of operated independently. But it would not have been an option to relocate and go to different schools because any of the surrounding cities around mine, they’re all pretty similar in demographics, so, …

 

Natty: Sure. And before I hand it back to Mark, I will say this. What you’ve just said hearkens back to something that we talked about a few years ago, where it’s all very well running away and trying to find schools that are well behaved and homogenous and are White, but eventually the barrier to that gets more and more expensive.

 

So you have to be more and more wealthy to be able to afford that. And even if you can there are some people who don’t even know that’s an option, and working class kids who go to comprehensives. And this is true from what you’re saying. This is true in the United States. It’s certainly true in this country cwhere there are certain schools that are totally just non-White, 90% ethnic minority. And you can say that:

 

“Well, the schools enforce behavioural codes.”

 

And all the rest of it.

 

Now, this book exposes that that isn’t the case! But it’s also the case that kids are ruthless and will pick on differences.

 

When I was a kid growing up, it would be the slightly tubby kid or the kid with ginger hair or whatever.

 

But you can imagine a few White kids in a school full of blacks or Asians [Pakistanis, etc.] or anything like that, they’re going to have a really tough time of it. And the Aaron Dugmore case just exemplifies that.

 

So I think this book is very important.

 

But let’s get into it. I’ll hand it back to Mark on that one.

 

Student X: One thing I would add, though, is where I was at, they had what’s called “Busing”. So they would literally bus kids in from other cities to that specific school to meet quotas.

 

I don’t know if you guys have ever heard of those, you know, nineties rappers, like gangster rappers who talk about the city of Compton. People were bused from that specific city to the high school I went to!

 

Natty: That’s, uh. That’s pretty crazy!

 

Student X: Yeah.

 

Natty: And it’s like the schools require a certain amount of minority students in order to claim funding.

 

So they’re more, …

 

Student X: Federal funding. Yeah, yeah. And they create all sorts of false excuses like:

 

“Oh, the schools in their area are overwhelmed, so we need to offload to a different school or whatever.”

 

So it truly, even if I were to try to evade this and go to a different location, it’s impossible with busing and all the other quotas that are put in place.

 

Mark Collett: So obviously, this isn’t necessarily about the book, but I’m really interested in what you’re saying.

 

So when you go into one of these multiracial American schools, I’m obviously aware of busing and that this was a treacherous policy put in place by the American government to, basically integrate via the gun, because people were forced at bayonet point to go to these schools! I’ve seen the pictures of the National Guard literally forcing White children or White teens to go to these multiracial schools. It’s quite sickening! It’s absolutely horrendous!

 

 

 

Now here’s the interesting thing, or the thing that I’d like to get to here, or the topic that I want to sort of discuss. When these blacks, because you’re talking about ones like, gangster rapper types and they’re obviously black the ones from Compton, you know, that you mentioned earlier, they’re obviously being bussed into these schools, but what are they actually like? Do they stick together when they get to your schools? Are they basically acting as one homogeneous group or is there any attempt whatsoever for any form of integration? Or is that just doesn’t happen?

 

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Student X: Well, I mean, if you’re asking like, hey, during lunch, does everybody group up and sit in their own space? I would say yes, for the most part.

 

Mark Collett: When you say “group up”? So when they meet blacks, …

 

Student X: Yeah, totally. Same way you see it go down in the jails, that’s kind of the same way it goes down [chuckling] in these high schools. And then as far, …

 

Mark Collett: Then there is racial segregation still then? But the racial segregation, rather than being segregated by school, you’re all in the same sort of, you’re all thrown in the same area, but they segregate in a different way, if you like.

 

So there is the segregation. There are the battle lines drawn. But rather than the segregation being in different buildings in different cities, the segregation takes place in one building in the same city. And I guess that leads to tension, does it not?

 

Student X: Well, I mean, everyone’s got their own lunch table in the cafeteria, so to speak. Right.

 

And a lot of times people they try to avoid conflict for the most part. In California, it’s well known people just don’t even make eye contact, and they don’t even say anything when they walk by each other. That’s just the norm. That’s kind of how I grew up. If you don’t know them, don’t, … You have nothing to gain by interacting with a complete stranger because it can just go to so many different directions. And then sometimes you would see the normal beefs between guys over girls or whatever, and sometimes it would cross certain lines. It would be one guy from this group and one guy from another group.

 

And then you have the few strays that go outside of their group and talk and mingle with others or whatnot. So.

 

But for the most part, if they don’t have us under forced interaction policies, we all tend to keep to our own. It’s just the best way to avoid conflict.

 

Natty: You know, funnily enough, there was a story that emerged recently, in the past month or so about Britain’s strictest head headmaster. And it’s an Indian or Pakistani lady. And she runs a school called Makayla Community School, and she’s been lauded as this new pioneer of education. This school has all different students, all different ethnicities. It has Muslims, it has Christians, it has, you know, Africans, Middle Easterners, all of these kids.

 

And on the surface, and they have lots of visitors who visit this school to see this model, exemplary school that really works. And the kids are well behaved and they get on with their work. But they have to treat them like prisoners. And they have some of the craziest rules where they not allowed to hold anything in their hands. They’re not allowed to look around. The parents who send their kids to these schools agree that there’s the detentions that they can be put under and they can be kept behind the school and all this stuff.

 

So for this multiracial, multicultural, [chuckling] utopian school idea to work, they basically have to treat these kids like they’re in some sort of forced labour camp! And it just puts a lie to all of this idea that it can work and it can be successful.

 

Student X: Yeah. You know, I remember being excited about graduating from grade school and going to high school. I was like:

 

“Wow! You know, you’re growing up!”

 

You’re like, you think:

 

“I get to have a locker now? I get to have stuff like that?”

 

Nope! They took the lockers out. My 7th grade year was the only year I had one. After that, they removed them over the summer. They put in just random checkpoints. There was a constant., … We used to call them “narcs”. They were just security, you know, that would be riding bikes around or walking the campus at all times. There was anywhere from, like six to ten of those. And they would have a wand on them if they wanted to search you, or they could just take you to the main office and say:

 

“Hey, we’re going to go through your backpack or whatever, because we heard X, Y and Z.”

 

So in reality, you are operating kind of like a captured population. And they have to put all those controls in there to kind of to force these interactions against free people, basically.

 

Natty: Yeah. One of the things that came out of this documentary about Britain’s strictest head headmaster was the kids would constantly have their things searched. And when [chuckling] they’re asked by this, the documentary maker, the kids are saying:

 

“Oh, they’re making sure we don’t have chewing gum and sweet wrappers and stuff.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“No, no! They’re making sure there’s not knives and switch blades in them.”

 

Student X: Yeah:

 

“Which one of you is selling drugs?”

 

That’s what they’re looking for.

 

Natty: Yeah, yeah. Exactly!

 

Mark Collett: Sally has now rejoined us. Sally, can you hear us?

 

Aunt Sally: Yes, I can. Yes, I can hear you. And can you hear me?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, you’re clear and fluid. Would you like to give your., … I don’t know if you’ve heard anything of what we’ve been saying or if you’d like to join in, but it’s good to have you here and it’s good to have you on a proper connection. My blood pressure is now falling.

 

Aunt Sally: He said his blood pressure is falling. It’s great! Yeah, no, I have heard, because I’ve been listening on my old laptop, but this wouldn’t work tonight.

 

But, yeah, I have heard. No, and I like what you’re saying, so, yeah, I’ll say what I think of the book at the end. It’s great! It’s great! I just need to check my notes now and see what questions I had for him. So you just carry on, please.

 

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Mark Collett: Yeah. Okay.

 

One thing I will say about the American school system is when you see it from the outside looking in, you see it in movies and TV shows, they do touch on this sort of segregation. Were the schools you’re in, …. And this is the last question I ask. Were there metal detectors when you went in? And how regularly are there serious outbreaks of violence that either end with stabbings, shootings? Did those things happen? Were those regular occurrences? And how does being involved in that kind of very tense standoff, almost like a war zone, if you like, on a day to day basis, how does that affect White children? I mean, that’s a number one sort of priority here, isn’t it? How does this affect our people? What would you say? What would the long term mental stresses be on young White people in these institutions?

 

Student X: Oh, that’s a big question!

 

As far as metal detectors. You know, back when I was going to high school there, they didn’t have the doorway style ones that you had to walk through, but they did carry the wands on them. The narcs or security guards, they had those, and they could use you know, randomly or spontaneously if they wanted to. So it was really up to their discretion.

 

And as far as education, you know, education comes secondary to survival in that type of environment.

 

So really you’re not absorbing a lot of the subjects and stuff that you’re supposed to be. What you’re mainly looking out for is avoiding conflict, things like that.

 

I would say as far as fights, breaking out, physical fights. Yeah, you’d probably get one like every, you know, three, four weeks somewhere randomly on the campus, and the narcs would come and break it up like that. Don’t remember any shootings or anything like that when I was attending there, although it’s quite possible it’s just nobody did.

 

But I do remember that one time there was a pretty nasty attack where people, you know, resorted to using baseball bats out towards the sports field, which is just not good. But, yeah, that’s kind of the environment.

 

Education becomes secondary to the social engineering that they’re forcing on you, basically.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, so, … Go on Natty.

 

Natty: So I’ll just cap that off by saying that’s interesting, because secondary school, for a lot of people, I think, is where they become socialised and learn how to deal with groups and how to interact with other people properly without the kind of oversight that you get in primary education. I’m not sure how that breaks down on the American level. But like you said, group dynamics the social side of things, totally take over for a lot of people and become, like you said, become secondary to, like, academic studies.

 

So that’s very interesting that you’ve come to that conclusion as well.

 

Student X: Yeah, I mean, ideally, you’re just hoping not to get jumped when you’re walking home. And you’re hoping not to have your bike stolen from the bike rack or stuff like that.

 

Mark Collett: Can I just ask one last. This is another tangential question before we get really into the book, and I know we’ve been half an hour just discussing the sort of school system, but this is really interesting.

 

So how come more, I might be missing something here, but how come more White Americans obviously aren’t racially, ….

 

So one of the arguments that’s made in the UK, and this is, I think, you know, Natty, if I’m saying something wrong here, Natty, just let me know whether you agree with this.

 

One of the problems in the UK that we always hear is that things aren’t bad enough yet, that basically, here in the UK, things haven’t got to that awful point yet. Where people are fighting for their life, begging for scraps of food, and as such, unfortunately, people don’t accept there are problems because life is just too good.

 

But it seems to me that these young White Americans are growing up in pretty much a living hell in sort of this racially charged almost war zone in what should be a educational institution. How come more young Whites, or how come so many young Whites are still drinking the Kool Aid*, so to speak?

 

[* “Drinking the Kool-Aid” is most strongly believing in and accepting a deadly, deranged, or foolish ideology or concept based only upon the overpowering coaxing of another; the expression is also used to refer to a person who wrongly has faith in a possibly doomed or dangerous idea because of perceived potential high rewards. The phrase typically carries a negative connotation. It can also be used ironically or humourously to refer to accepting an idea or changing a preference due to popularity, peer pressure, or persuasion. In recent years, it has evolved further to mean extreme dedication to a cause or purpose, so extreme that one would “drink the Kool-Aid” and die for the cause.
While use of the phrase dates back to 1968 with the nonfiction book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, [citation needed] it is strongly associated with the events in Jonestown, Guyana, on November 18, 1978, in which over 900 members of the Peoples Temple movement died. The movement’s leader, Jim Jones, called a mass meeting at the Jonestown pavilion after the murder of U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan and others in nearby Port Kaituma. Jones proposed “revolutionary suicide” by way of ingesting a powdered drink mix made from Flavor Aid (later misidentified as Kool-Aid) that was lethally laced with cyanide and other drugs.]