Thomas Sewell: Alrighty, we’re live. Max volume, everything. Audio input, capture.

 

All right, testing, 1, 2, 3. Use my big boy voice. Volume’s low. What’s your problem? I actually found a setting. Everyone’s like, Tom, fix your settings. We’re going 150%. There we go. Alrighty. Alrighty. Testing, testing!

 

All right, obligatory, free Joel Davis! Free Brandon [Koschel]! Free Jim Roberts!

 

So I’m going to cover a few subjects today, as you expect, with a solo stream. I really enjoyed my most recent stream with James Mason. It was like a five hour don’t Fed post challenge hard. He Fed posted a couple times, but as you’d expect. But I reviewed it and it wouldn’t breach. It wouldn’t breach even the most ridiculous laws we have here in Australia.

 

Now, one thing that I need to correct from the stream is I think I said that the book Siege is in a grey area of the law. My lawyer has told me that it is potentially banned. So he was like, it’s kind of in a dark grey area of the law. It’s not 100% banned. There is a banned list of books in Australia and Siege isn’t on it. But I cannot encourage anyone to go and buy that book because they haven’t made the case yet.

 

But what he suggests is that they’re trying to make the case. So I’d be very careful with that book in Australia. That’s one thing I want to clarify. Yeah, I think Mason gave a pretty sound explanation of what his intention of the book is. And I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any negative press because I know the journalists will watch a stream like that and get their AI ready to write an article for them about how evil we all are. But, yeah, that hasn’t happened.

 

But I do want to give people caution here in Australia that, yeah, I’m not encouraging you on legal grounds. I’m not encouraging you to read the book.

 

And I think all I said in the stream was that I did read it back in 2019 after being bullied by Jacob Hersant into reading it. I originally didn’t read it because I thought it was what everyone says it is. And I was like:

 

“I’m not really interested in that. I know enough about X, Y and Z through reading army manuals when I was in the army, so I don’t feel the need to read something of that nature.”

 

And then Jacob was like:

 

“No, it’s. That’s not what it’s about at all! There’s like some contentious lines in it. But overall, that’s not what it says.”

 

And Mason clarified that on stream. And I do appreciate him doing that because I think siege culture and accelerationist culture is really misunderstood. You know, accelerationism as a concept is, and siege as a concept is really misunderstood. And you’ll notice when I said to Mason about how our strategy has been to do the maximal amount of work with the minimal amount of damage, you’ll notice he was nodding the most. Mason’s not advocating for anyone to be an idiot and go to jail. He’s actually advocating the opposite. He’s saying:

 

“Do as much as you can to the integrity of the system without ruining your life!”

 

And he is proof that he’s done 60 years in the struggle. 60 years of inspiring people to be like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this system is evil and corrupt and contributing to it and trying to seek entry into it in hopes to change it is not an effective strategy.”

 

And he’s always been an advocate of the opposite. To siege it, to besiege it, to starve it. And yeah there’s no point, you know, running at it, doing a hero run, you know, charging at the castle walls, you’re just going to get pinged by some dude with an arrow. You’ve got to just wait it out, you’ve got to siege it, not wait it out and do nothing. But there’s a lot of things you can do while besieging an enemy.

 

And so people have to think creatively about what that means. And not but again, all politics, all politics, when it is in its infancy, attracts radical people. And radical people are more prone to self destructive behaviour. And so you want to have people that are courageous, you want to have courageous men, you want to have courageous leaders. And courageous does not mean foolish!

 

And so you do have to balance the concepts of bravery and courage with patience. And there’s a lot of virtue, a lot of virtue in having the strength to put yourself against a system that’s destroying you without becoming a martyr, you know, without letting the system destroy you. Now if you step over that line and the system puts you in jail for life or you get assassinated, like George Lincoln Rockwell.

 

I mean, Matt Hale, for example, who was involved, my understanding, with the creativity movement, he wasn’t the founder, but he was like the young hotshot that was rising up. And I think he’s in jail for life. I think he gets out of jail in about 10 years time from now. And he’s been in jail for like 20 years. Guys like Matt Howell, for example, just got really unlucky. They got. He got really unlucky and he got caught up in something that he hadn’t. I’ve looked at the case, I’ve looked at the case, the facts of the case, and the guy hasn’t done anything wrong. They could just. He was just a serious threat to the system and something like that could happen to me. But God willing, I’m safe from that level of corruption!

 

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And I think it might be good luck, it might just be good luck! It might be destiny. But you don’t, what is it? You don’t count your chickens until they come home to roost or something? It’s still early days. It’s very early days. I’m still a young man. I might be bald, but I’m young and fit.

 

So, yeah, it’s, I’m 33 years old this year as of this month. And yeah, there’s a lot of struggle to go.

 

Just open with that if you haven’t checked it out, don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s five hours. It is broken down into separate conversations. There’s an hour and then there’s a break and then there was meant to be an another hour and a break. But it, the first hour, the first two hours is very consumable for most people.

 

And then obviously, if you’re really into this stuff and you go for long drives and, or you work a job where you can have a, your headphones in a lot of tradies and stuff. Tell me that they like the five hour streams. Don’t be intimidated by having these really long streams. They appreciate, they appreciate the dialogue.

 

So as long as not too often. I don’t think you should listen to streams every day and I don’t think you should listen to music every day. I have been doing a fair bit of community service. I got to do knitting, as you’re all aware, and I advise people not to, I listen to music sometimes the whole time, or a podcast or an audio book. Books are probably the best thing. Books are better than streams because books, streams and dialogue and conversations aren’t as sharp. There’s no way I can communicate with you as clearly and as sharply as, say, reading Mein Kampf on audiobook. It’s not possible because of all the jargon. Those are the clearest thoughts possible. And then they go through an editing process.

 

So where are we? So already in the chat. Already in the chat! They’re arguing about Christianity already. Instantly! It’s incredible! Christianity will come up in this stream. When we talk about Manosphere, we’re going to cover feminism in general. We’re going to talk about all this girl bossing that’s going on at the moment with the Evangelicals. And there’s some heinous stuff that I’ve seen on Twitter where these little soy boy freaks are marrying these goblina jewesses with like 100 body counts. And they’re just saying:

 

“But she’s saved by Christ!”

 

And so it will come up. The conversation will come up. When we’re talking about that. There is definitely part one of this stream. What I’m going to open with is I’ll just. People still saying the volume’s low. Let me just unmute myself. Hold on. Now we’re. I could put up 175. I’ll just go 200. I’ll go 200. Okay. People still complaining. 200%. 200% Audio input, capture, volume. And the mic is like an inch from my face, maybe two. Two inches. Audio input, capture. I’ll put this one at 150. Alrighty. How does that sound? Testing for the last time. Testing. Yeah, fair enough. It is pretty quiet. Yeah, there’s a lot of retards in the chat today. Classic. Everyone’s spurging out. Yeah, that does sound better.

 

All right, sweet. Everyone’s arguing over which strain of Christianity. It’s incredible! It’s incredible! It’s endless. It’s endless, isn’t it? It never ends. It never ends.

 

So to start with the Aboriginal question. So obviously we are still what I am, and I have friends and we are trying to get a political party on the table here in Australia. And so covering the Aboriginal question, and you could call it the woman question, is really important. And it has to be done in a way that’s legal because of these laws here in Australia. And it has to be done in a way that people can understand the values and the rhetoric without getting caught up in the emotional arguments. So one has to be cautious when they approach these two topics. So you might find my speech slightly more refined than normal.

 

Hitler won the female vote in Germany. He actually had more women vote for him than men. And that’s a really interesting phenomenon to consider that more women voted for Hitler than men.

 

And so it shows that women don’t have to necessarily like you in order to respect you and I think that’s an important dynamic. A lot of people have commented, including Mason, about how journalists have behaved, female journalists specifically have behaved when interviewing me. And I saw someone online describe it as “negative tingles”, that they’re not used to someone outside the court giving them negative tingles. Normally it’s boring. Normally their job is boring. And then to have someone that’s got an intense character and an intense personality, it hits the dopamine receptors differently. And I’ve seen grandmas on Facebook comment sections in replies to these interviews saying, “hail Australia”. And all the criticism and all the advice people try to give us over the years is all wrong. It’s all backwards. It’s actually all the other way around. The female question is the opposite of the current orthodoxy, the current belief system of how women should be treated and how politics affects women. It’s all wrong. It’s all an inversion of the truth!

 

The truth is that it comes down to respect! And they respect integrity, not niceties! They don’t respect niceties, they respect integrity. And they respect aggression as long as it’s a as long as it’s not a foolish, foaming at the mouth, barbaric aggression. They don’t have much respect for that, but they almost respect that more and get better tingles from that than Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese. These characters provide no stimulation to the female political psyche. And so understanding how to win the woman vote, you’re not going to win it with outright misogyny. That’s obviously ridiculous! This idea of just be a prick and you’ll get voted in. That’s not what I’m articulating.

 

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What I’m saying is that people should not continue to spread the lie and demoralisation within our broader scene, our broader movement and political parties in the West, that the way to win the woman vote is to pander to them. That’s really what this comes down to, is the pandering.

 

So that’s a subject on its own that I’ll cover. So that’s what you got to look forward to.

 

But first we’re going to talk about the Aboriginal question and specific. We’ve talked about both these questions a lot, but the reason why it’s come up again is I’ve had a lot of people in person and online message me saying:

 

“Why is our strategy to go to war with Aboriginals? Won’t we win more votes and won’t we do better in Parliament and won’t our message be more well received if we don’t go to war?”

 

These are their words, not mine, with Aboriginals. And my position is not that we’re going to war with Aboriginals.

 

And obviously the Camp Sovereignty situation has played a part in this dialogue because people think that the reason why there’s allegedly an incident on that hill was because of the Aboriginal question. And it’s completely it’s not irrelevant. It’s not irrelevant, but people are conflating and the media has done this. The media has purposefully misled people and made a significant portion of people that support us question their support on the basis of:

 

“Well, why would they attack innocent elderly Aboriginal women?”

 

And most people can see through it. But there is a portion of our supporters that are like:

 

“Oh, I don’t think that was a good move. You probably shouldn’t have attacked innocent elderly Aboriginal women.”

 

And it’s, well, one, that didn’t happen and two, the conflict., … And this is the position that interestingly, a lot of Aboriginals actually share, not all, but a lot, is that the issue is these White traitors.

 

And so if these White traitors didn’t behave the way they did, there wouldn’t be as much conflict between the Whites and the Aboriginals. And you’ll find there’s a lot of, probably a higher percentage of Aboriginal DNA Aboriginals that aren’t supportive of multiculturalism. And there is, the Left call it like an Uncle Tom syndrome, obviously. But my position has always been towards all races that it’s about respect. And it’s a zero sum game a lot of the time regarding resources and living space. That’s zero sum.

 

And so there’s going to have to be compromise or there’s going to be if there’s not some sort of what I’ve always said about the question of re-migration is people bring up the Aboriginals, whenever you talk about re-migration they say:

 

“Oh, but what about the Aboriginals? They were here before you!”

 

So because of that, they’re in their own select category. And what I’ve been trying to explain to people online is that Aboriginals have a choice. And this is the sound bite and this is what you should be saying to if I know a lot of people have an Aboriginal friend, or a part Aboriginal friend, this is what you say to them:

 

“Our position is that you either have part sovereignty over the whole or over full sovereignty over the part. But you can’t have both.”

 

I’ll explain that again. The Aboriginal people can either have part sovereignty over all, or full sovereignty over part. They can’t have both! That’s not a compromise. That’s White genocide. So White people, Anglo, Celtic people predominantly have come to this continent because the continent wasn’t a country, or a nation, it was a continent. It’s a land mass. It’s an island, a big island.

 

But we’ve come to this place. There’s a whole bunch of warring Aboriginal tribes. Some are in cahoots and some aren’t in cahoots. Some have been here 10,000 years. Some have potentially been here 40,000 years. The numbers keep changing. But either way, we came here and we built something separate to them. We tried to include them. There’s a lot of interesting history from the first and Second Fleet and from Arthur and Bligh, Philip. There’s some interesting history where they’ve tried to integrate the Aboriginals and it’s almost always backfired horribly on both the Whites and on the Aboriginals.

 

And so when you look at and Auspill’s done a very good job at covering this, when there has been massacres of Aboriginals, so-called these genocides or massacres, it’s always come down to establishing the Anglo Saxon law on the land. It’s come down to:

 

“Hey, we want this land, we want this territory. We’re bigger and stronger than you. We’re not going to come after you, we’re not going to attack you. But we want this much space. And, it’s living space for Whites. Europe has to breathe out. We’re overcrowded in the streets of London. We’ve got this problem with criminals or petty criminality, people stealing Spoons and stuff. We’re running out of space. We found this place. We’re in a geopolitical issue with all these other people. We can’t explain this to you. We just need what we, what we need. And we’re prepared to fight for it! And your options are to fight us or to just keep moving deeper and deeper into the bush and away from this spot. It’s ours now. You’re not having it back.”

 

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And obviously anyone in their right mind would be pissed off by that. If some alien force came, you know, from space and did that to us right now and we had really little ability to fight back because they were so technologically advanced, we would rightfully be pissed off, wouldn’t we? But we would have to retreat into the bush, we would have to White flight. We would have to be like, this is too much. We have to consolidate what we’re doing.

 

And so this is beyond Good and Evil. This is a, this is Nietzschean in this concept. The Left try to put a moral framework on that and say:

 

“That’s wrong, that’s evil. And therefore we have to surrender Australia to everyone! We have to be cucks, we have to bend over and we have to let anyone come here and rape us because of this founding moment!”

 

Because White people equals bad as their moral framework. That is their entire moral framework. White people equals bad. And they’ve got this original sin concept:

 

“We’re bad people! We’re horrible people! We’re horrible, bad people!”

 

Now, obviously straight White men don’t think this way. The only people that think this way are people with slave morality, which is homosexuals, freaks, a lot of women unfortunately think this way:

 

“Oh, no, we’re horrible! What we’ve done is so horrible!”

 

You know, this kind of bleeding heart. Not all women, but it is a naturally, it is a feminine energy to put your empathy for others. Well, it’s not even a, it’s a distortion of feminine energy really.

 

But look, it appeals, it appeals to weak willed people. Masculine men don’t think like this. Testosterone doesn’t allow your brain to even go there. We’ve got a completely different philosophical structure, a completely different reality because we’ve got a solar morality. It really comes down to these simple principles. It’s not about good and evil, it’s about solar morality. It’s about, we are a life form, we must exist, we must continue to exist. We don’t have to be pricks about it, we don’t have to be cunts about it. But we’re not going to back down, we’re not going to surrender, we’re not going to roll over and die. And so how do we make this work?

 

And so obviously, while we’re in a nice friendly talking phase about it, I don’t have an issue with Aboriginal sovereignty. It’s not my issue. I don’t. Good on them, Good for them. That’s my position on the Aboriginals. Good for them! If they can have it, good on them.

 

But it’s got nothing to do with me. I’m not paying for it, I’m not engaged in it, I’m not involved in it. It’s not in my face, it’s not in my place, it’s not in my space. It’s in their space. Now that is the problem! That is the problem is that multiculturalism is forcing all these radically different people to live together. And we’re not meant to live that is going to be the death of us. It’s going to be the death of our culture.

 

Now these people, they have a flag, they have a tribe, they have an identity. They’re trying to rebuild their culture. Good on them. My opinion, and I think the opinion of most Aboriginals and most White people is that they should do it on their own! I think they’ve had enough help. We’ve done enough to help them, more than enough to help them. It’s not our responsibility to help them any further.

 

What part of the land are they going to get? Well, that is the most serious conversation. But the philosophy behind that conversation I think is congruent. I think we can, I think all Australians can get on board with the idea that we have a two-state solution, at a minimum. To me, that’s the minimum. If they want to go to war with us, that’s a different conversation.

 

But I think you’ll find that there could be conversations where they have their own government, they have their own schools, they have their own institutions. Are they going to be as good as ours? No, they’re not. Is that going to cause the bleeding hearts to be like:

 

“See we’re still continuing to oppress them by keeping them separate!”

 

And there’ll be an anti-apartheid argument, but apartheid is the most beneficial thing for both parties. Because they will never have dignity, they will never have sovereignty and they will never have dignity while we play this passive aggressive game where they’re trying to rule over us and we’re trying to say we’re all friends, Kumbaya. That is never, while both of us are actually suffering. So I’ve said in the past things like if they want to, if they want to fight, they might get deported too. They’ll get deported back to India. They walked here 40,000 years ago. They might get told to walk back.

 

And I’ve said things like those are very strong comments and obviously a lot of Aboriginal people want to fight me because of those comments.

 

But that is my position. I’m not backing down on that. I’m never going to change my mind on that is my position. It’s a two-state solution or it’s that because we cannot continue. And when we take power in this country, and we are going to take power in this country, we are going to solve this question and we are going to say:

 

“Let’s sit down, let’s draw up the map and here is a fundamental treaty of you will not let China put bases on your land, you will not let any foreigners put bases on your land, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Like there will be a treaty that will say:

 

“You are a vassal of our realm. This is Australdom, this is our realm, you’re a vassal, you’ve got a territory, you self govern it.”

 

Whether we trade or buy or sell or communicate with each other, whether there’s tourist visas, all this is downstream. We can work something out where they can come visit us and we can go visit them.

 

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The bleeding hearts can go live with the Aboriginals. But you will not put Chinese bases on it. Like this is fortress Australia. We’re not going to tolerate it and you guys can police yourselves. You can have your own laws, you can have your own courts, you can have your own koori justice and your own jails and your own prisons, and all the complaints that they have all solved overnight. All solved overnight. We have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with it. We have no part of it! You want to go spear each other, that’s your culture. That we’re not going to intervene. And that is the absolute best outcome for everyone involved! That it’s the best compromise for us. Certainly it’s the best compromise. Is it perfect? Is it ideal? Can we purity spiral and get a better result? Sure, absolutely!

 

Is that feasible? Of course, anything is feasible if you put your mind to it. Is that how the Australian public feel? No, the Australian public don’t feel that there could be something more than that. There might be people that want to do more than that and go further, certainly. And that ethnic tension arises from living together. But I think once you find, once you take that step in that direction, I think you will find that tension will disappear.

 

So when people say to me:

 

“Tom you know why are we doing this? Anti Aboriginal rhetoric and da, da and we should try to win the Aboriginals over and we should., …”

 

The way they’re talking is they’re treating Aboriginals the same way. They’re like:

 

“We should try to win women over. We should try to win!”

 

It’s kind of similar to attitude. It’s like that’s not how it works. You don’t win Aboriginals over by pandering to them. You don’t win women over by pandering to them. I know they’re two very different biological forms. You know, obviously one is male and female. One is just female. You know, when we’re talking about women, we’re talking about White women, obviously. And I’m not making any further comparisons in that regard.

 

But if you understand, what I’m saying is the politics of the White man, the politics of the White Patriarchy, is not about pandering! Our politics is about laying down the law, explaining what we’re going to do and why we’re going to do it and how we’re going to do it. And then saying:

 

“This is the best outcome for everyone. What we’re doing right now is not working and we’re not making any further compromises on that’s the line in the sand.”

 

We’re actually only going to go further than that, we’re not going to come any less than that.

 

There is never, in my opinion, there’s never going to be a time where I or the vast majority of White people in Australia are going to accept are our slow ethnic replacement. It might appear that way right now, but it’s only because we’re not politically organised. This is not how the average Australian feels. This is not how the average White person around the world feels. The average White person around the world wants re-migration. They want to remain, at a minimum, 90%. That’s like the beginning. That’s not even, like controversial anymore, that the 90% or the 95% rule. That is the super majority of the population. I just like deport all of them except the good ones. That’s the super majority. And then you’ve probably still got the majority saying:

 

“No, no, it shouldn’t be 90, it should be 99%.”

 

So, yeah, anyway, I’ll pause there. I won’t cover that subject much more. Oh, my God! There’s a sorry, there’s a spastic in the chat. How do I do ban this person for life? I don’t want to mute. I keep making this mistake. If I mute, then I can’t ban. Isn’t that right? Okay, that just deleted it. Oh, yeah. Also muting on Rumble because Odysee is different. Muting on Rumble is banning. Cool. Glad we got that sorted.

 

I’ll go through the comments section. If there’s any comments on the Aboriginal question. Geez, everyone’s just arguing about Christianity. We’re not even talking about Christianity. We’re just talking about Aboriginals at this stage.

 

So, yeah, in short, as I said before, tell your friends that say this nonsense to you about how we should work together:

 

“We all got to work together. We all got to work together.”

 

They can have full sovereignty over themselves, but not us. Or they can have this fake sovereignty over everyone. Do they actually want full sovereignty? If they do, it can only be over themselves. That means apartheid. Ultimately, that means apartheid. What that looks like is a man can’t serve the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag. You can’t go to a at the high school, at the courts, all these institutions. It’s got an Australian flag and it’s got an Aboriginal flag. That is not sustainable. It’s one or the other. It can’t be both.

 

And this idea of:

 

“Oh, we got to show solidarity and they’re not a threat to us and all this.”

 

It’s not sustainable. It’s not sustainable. It’s nice. Tingle feels. It feels really nice:

 

“Oh, look, I’m being empathetic. Oh, I’m a good person.”

 

You can have this virtue signaling, but we’re two very different peoples. We need to have sovereignty over ourselves. They need to have sovereignty over themselves. We need to be focused on Australia and White people and civilisation, the Western civilisation that we’re a part of, and they need to be focused on creating their own harmony, the dream time, their version of reality, fixing their problems, punishing their problems. They have a completely different version of reality to us. That is just how different ethnic groups and different races are built. They have different versions of reality. Things we see as a problem that they see it like a major problem, they see as a minor problem, and vice versa. Their biggest issue is White people are locking them up and putting them in jail. Like, they can’t even comprehend that our problem is that they’re committing heinous crimes. They can’t even comprehend that’s a problem. They see the problem as:

 

“Why are you locking us up?”

 

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It’s the same with the blacks in America. How can these two groups of people live together when they have completely different versions of reality? So they should police themselves. Simple as! Part sovereignty over all or full sovereignty over part.

 

So you can’t have both. Simple. As I’ll move on. Hopefully the comment section is not talking about Christianity, someone says:

 

“Do I make my own toothpaste?”

 

Very funny. Yeah. And this applies not just to Australia, this applies to obviously, Canada and New Zealand as well. I think the Treaty of Waitangi is a mistake in New Zealand. I don’t know too much about the treaties in Canada. I know Alex Ferryman does. Yeah, it’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Any treaty that exists needs to be a treaty of:

 

“Here’s your space. Here’s our space. You live there, we live here. You’re citizens of your country. We’re citizens of our country. We’re two separate nations. We’re not the same nation.”

 

They even call themselves the first nation so that by definition, they’re not part of our nation. They’re saying this. They’re saying this, not me. They are saying it. What else?

 

Let’s get into the nuts and bolts. The woman question. I need a need a breather. If we’re going to get into the woman question. I need a breather. Yeah. Someone says:

 

“Easiest solution is allow those same bleeding hearts to transfer their own funds to Aboriginals, not government or social funds. The Left can put their money where their mouth is.”

 

Yeah, absolutely! Well, I believe that all the bleeding hearts should go live with the Aboriginals. They should have Aboriginal citizenship. They want to be so bad. They hate White people so much. They hate being White!:

 

“White people are horrible, horrible people! And having White children is perpetuating White supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Good bye. Bye. See you later. Awesome! You know, we’ll strip all of these people of Australian citizenship when we come to power and there will be people that will say:

 

“Oh, my God, you can’t do that!”

 

Yes, we can and we will. They’re all going to get stripped of their Australian citizenship. These White people that work, that bow down and worship Aboriginals as their god. They can go live with their god. They can go live with their god. Simple. You know, you want to do the Welcome to Country acknowledgment of country, all this. Absolutely perfect! Perfect. Absolutely! Bye. Bye. Yeah, we don’t want those people living in our society. It doesn’t matter that they’re of the same blood as us. That doesn’t matter because they’re not of the same honour as us. They hate us! There are some sort of mutation of our bloodline that is antithetical to our existence. If Aboriginals didn’t exist, they would find some other group to nut hug. Hypothetically, because there’s no Aboriginals in England. Like you don’t see people advocating for the pre-Belgic-Celtic invasion of Bronze Age England. That doesn’t exist. You know, what kind of strain of Leftism would that be? You know, it’s obviously absurd because you’ve got a thousand years of homogeneity of many different layers of Celtic peoples then breeding in with many different layers of Germanic and Nordic peoples.

 

So it’s the English people, the British people are a relatively homogenised people. And so you don’t see that argument because those tribes can homogenise quite. I mean, obviously it still caused things like, I mean, I don’t want to get too much into the intricacies of English history, but you can see the precursor of things like civil war in previous ethnic distinctions.

 

So, for example, Croatia and Serbia are ethnically very similar, but they’re not ethnically the same. They are two different ethnicities and therefore they also have two different versions of their interpretation of Christianity. You’ve got Orthodoxy and you’ve got Catholicism. So ethnic differences play out also religiously and also politically. You’ll see this a lot through human history. You see it in the American Civil War. There was an ethnic difference in the American Civil War as well. Probably not as predominant, but I won’t go into it. Americans know that for themselves.

 

Now someone says:

 

“Tom’s right. They have a different reality. Go to any Northern Territory prison and you’ll see the system isn’t working.”

 

It’s not working by our standards. Absolutely! Our version, our reality of working and their version of working are two completely different things.

 

And I’ll finish it with this. I had a Dreamtime experience with Aboriginals. I’m sure I’ve told this story on stream years ago, so those that have been around a while will remember this story. But I had a friend in the army, a guy called Christopher Knight. He was a Special Forces guy. He’s a translator, he’s a linguist. And I don’t know what he’s doing now with his life, but I’m sure he’s doing well. And he was adopted. He got adopted in a cultural sense, or a linguistic sense by an Aboriginal. An Aboriginal tribe in Darwin in Northern Territory. And this guy was a, like one of those, what is called politician-linguist or something. This guy spoke like 50 languages. It was incredible! I’ve never seen anything like it. I mean, we would go out drinking in Mitchell street or whatever it’s called in the CBD of Darwin. It’s like one street and there’s like four bars on it. And any backpacker, he could speak their language. Any backpacker. It was really incredible!

 

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Anyway on his weekends, he was going out and living with Aboriginals out in the middle of nowhere. And there were like some, there were full bloods and it’s very rare to find full bloods, but in Northern Territory it’s more common. There’s no way you can find full bloods outside of Northern Territory or Northern New, Southern Queensland or Northern WA. And he started hanging out with these, basically semi-nude Aboriginals in the bushland near Casuarina Beach on the weekends. And he knocks on my door. I don’t know, it was like one in the morning, one random. It was like a Tuesday, or a Thursday. And he says:

 

“Hey Tom or hey Sewell.”

 

Everyone calls you by your last name in the army:

 

“Hey Sewelly, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. They need a linguist. He was a two commando guy, but for some reason he was in our battalion. And he says, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. I’m getting on a plane and I have to say goodbye to some people and I had to run some errands. Can you drive me?”

 

Because I was one of the only LID, which lid means new guy or live in digger. I was one of the only LID that had a car. And I was friendly with him, and everyone thought he was a weirdo and I did as well. Weird means different things to me than it does to other people. When someone says weird, they mean like not radioactive, but they mean, you know, semi-ostracized. They mean:

 

“Oh, we don’t associate with that guy because he’s a weirdo!”

 

Whereas when someone’s weird, I am fascinated by human psychology. And so I was always very friendly with him because I wanted to know what made him tick. He had such a different version of reality to everyone else that I just really wanted to understand. I mean this guy was probably in his early 30s and I think I was 19 or 20 at the time.

 

So I was like:

 

“Unk, how do you view the world? What’s going on, Unk?”

 

Basically I was the same relationship I have with Zoomers and is like that relationship when I was The Age that a lot of Zoomers are that asked me for advice And I’m now. I’m now 90.

 

But anyway, he says, he’s like:

 

“Sewelly, you’re the only one with a car. You know, can you drive me around? I gotta say goodbye to some people.”

 

And so he drives me out in the middle of nowhere, and then we go walking for like 40 minutes down this beach. And I’m like:

 

“What are we doing?”

 

And we find these Aboriginals just on this beach in the middle of nowhere. And they’re all sitting cross legged and around a little campfire. And he introduces me to them and he’s speaking their language, like full Aboriginal! Like whatever sect of Aboriginal they are. And he’s speaking their language. And he introduces me and he says a bunch of Aboriginal words.

 

And then he says my name. And then he says:

 

“5 RAR, 5th Battalion.”

 

And I was like:

 

“What did you say to them?”

 

And he said:

 

“You’re a young warrior from my tribe, from the 5th Battalion tribe. And that you’re a good warrior. You’re a good, young, strong warrior and that you’re helping me today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh.”

 

And then they all, like, acknowledged me. They’re all sitting different. So it was men. I was sitting with the men, obviously, and the women were sitting at a different campfire with the women, and it was segregated.

 

And so I was with the men and Knighty was explaining to them how I was a good warrior, a good young warrior of the 55 RAR tribe. And we’re sitting there and they’re just talking and talking, and I went into a trance. I was tired, but I didn’t know what was, … It was like someone had drugged me. I was in a trance and I was just staring at the ocean, because we’re on the beach. And I was staring at the ocean and the sky was purple.

 

And I was like:

 

“Is there something in this fireplace? Like, what? Like, am I on?”

 

I’ve never at this stage, I’d never tried any drug ever!

 

And I was like:

 

“Is this what acid feels like?”

 

That’s what I was thinking in my head.

 

And I was like:

 

“What is going on?”

 

And they’re making that noise that they make. They’re talking and yeah. And then the sun’s coming up and I’m like, what is going on? And I look at the time and it’s like 6:30. And it was just surreal! It was a surreal experience. And then he’s like:

 

“All right, we’re gonna go.”

 

He gave them bananas and double A batteries. And he taught them how to like Jerry rig a phone to be able to give co-ordinates so that he could communicate where they were in the bush using GPS. And it was just fascinating! It was just absolutely fascinating! That was my first positive experience with Aboriginals. And I had had only about 500 negative experiences with Aboriginals prior to that moment. And every negative experience I’d had with Aboriginals was them being drunk, or not even drunk, but them just behaving the way they behave, and then being violent and aggressive towards me for just existing, for just walking down the street or just going to the shops at two o’ clock in the afternoon. Or them harassing like pregnant ladies trying to get in their car, demanding money off them. Like just every experience I had was so negative.

 

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And then this was the first time I was like:

 

“I think I’m starting to understand these people. They live in a dream time.”

 

Like the proper full bloods. They live in a different reality to us. They don’t like time. The way we view time and the way they view time is completely different! And I somehow empathed in that moment into their little hive mind with Knightie, who was like my guide. His name was Christopher Knight, like a knight of Christ! And he was a very spiritually attuned man. And that was an experience I’ll never forget. I think I was almost, 20 years old. I was only 19!

 

But yeah, very interesting stuff. Very, very interesting stuff.

 

The stream looks frozen on my end. What is going on? No, no, it’s not frozen. Excellent! Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? I’ve seen the best of it and I’ve seen the worst of it. And the best of it is we should just leave these people alone. Like the problem is enlightenment. In a lot of ways, [chuckling] enlightenment has benefits, certainly. I’m not anti-enlightenment. You know, that’s a big part of how we’ve come to be. And it was a big part of our life cycle as a civilisation. It’s the second last phase of civilisation is enlightenment. The Greeks went through this around, I don’t know, 400 B.C. And yeah, I’m not against, you can’t be against it because it’s nature, it’s time itself.

 

But one of the dumbest parts of enlightenment is “equality”. That’s the dumbest part of enlightenment. The, the, that is the false enlightenment. The false enlightenment is that we’re all blank slates and that we’re all equal. That you know:

 

“All men are created equal before God and blah blah, blah!”

 

That is the most. How the hell. I don’t even know if they sincerely believe that. I can’t even fathom that they were that stupid that the people that colonised Australia, … Because when I read Clark, I’ve got it right here actually, this one here.

 

So this guy’s a communist. He’s a piece of shit, Leftist communist! And he wrote A History of Australia. I have, I’ve only read this one. I haven’t read the other volumes. I think this one ends around 1830. And he wrote this in I think 1961 or 62. And he’s a full blown communist and was investigated by ASIO for being, for coordinating with. Here’s the big boy here. Here’s the main man. Here’s the main man. Mr. Cook. Captain Cook. Anglo Saxon. Anglo Saxon. But yeah, Melbourne University. He’s a commie at Melbourne University.

 

Anyway, I read it. It’s quite interesting, quite subversive. But he, oh, he really emphasises the how enlightened Captain Cook and you know, Arthur Bligh and all these guys were and how they, but what’s interesting is he can’t hide the fact that despite their Enlightenment, despite the fact that they. Excuse me. They arrived in Australia and they tried to treat the Aboriginals as equals.

 

And so they’re like:

 

“Hey, let’s trade.”

 

And then there was nothing to trade. So they were like:

 

“Hey, let’s, …”

 

It was like a clash of values because they had these Enlightenment values and they didn’t know how to implement them on the Aboriginals. They didn’t know.

 

And so there was a whole bunch of different treat ways the Aboriginals were treated by European colonists. And I think it was the Portuguese and the Spanish in the Americas, but a little bit even in the Asia Pacific region, the Portuguese were in Asia Pacific as well. And they were basically like:

 

“You’re going to convert to Catholicism by the sword!”

 

And what Clark says is that they didn’t have those Enlightenment values. So you’ve got like Protestant Anglos trying to communicate with Aboriginals and like uplift them into humanity and uplift them into civility.

 

And then you’ve got the Portuguese with almost like pre-Enlightenment Catholic values that were just like “convert or die”. And that’s quite interesting. You know, it’s possible to talk about history without talking about Christianity. But yeah, that’s quite interesting. I won’t expand on that too much. You can gather from that what you want.

 

Yeah, where was I going with that? Yeah, he has all these little anecdotes or all these little stories about these first encounters and how, yeah, the enlightened English were just bewildered and were just like:

 

“We’ve never encountered this anywhere in the world!”

 

And he’s actually honest about the criticisms that they had. I think he might over embellish their enlightenment principles. I think they were probably a lot more racist than what he’s articulating because he’s a communist.

 

But yeah, I think I titled this Aboriginal communism, didn’t I? Before we get into the woman question, ultimately, if we don’t segregate from Aboriginals, we’re going to get destroyed by Aboriginal communism the way that what’s going on in South Africa, they’re dealing with African communism. And when you end apartheid and you mix or you attempt to get the races to all live together in equality and one is so different to the other, it’s a race to the bottom! And that’s ultimately what communism is, it’s a race to the bottom.

 

And it’s not just anti-enlightenment because there’s a lot of things that are anti-enlightenment, but it is anti-life! It’s ultimately anti-life because our version of life is an upward force, not a, so it’s hard to cover this without getting into the Greeks. You got to get into the Greeks because they figured all this out! And I don’t mean like the Greeks is in the souvlaki shop. I mean like the ancient Greeks, the philosophy.

 

The Greeks realised that when they went through their enlightenment that there’s not just being, there’s becoming. And that the ultimate being is becoming. And we use the word “progress” now and that word is obviously really dirty and that’s why I don’t use it. It’s a very dirty word. To say something is “progressive”, you’re saying it’s Leftist.

 

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And so the Leftists have actually somehow inverted “becoming” into “progression”. And so when they say it’s progressive, it’s actually regressive! It’s regressive of the total life force. Leftism is the downward path. It’s not Left versus Right, it’s up versus down! And this is something that you really need to understand. Communism, Aboriginal communism, jewish communism, any form of communism, any form of Leftist progression is a progression downwards! It’s progressing the life form downwards. And this applies to even politics of today.

 

So if you want to talk about party politics, if you want to call it that if you want to talk about Parliamentarianism, what the Labor Party here in. I know this is people like, I’m tuning out. I don’t want to hear this. But normies want to hear this. Normies, you do need to. If you’re listening to this, you’re probably not a normie. And you do need to know how to apply the logic that I’m articulating here in the stream to things other than ancient Greece and ancient Rome and like all this stuff, you need to be able to apply it to be able to explain it to, … You need to be able to speak in tongues and that doesn’t mean like that crazy Evangelical crap. That means you need to be able to speak the tongue of the people.

 

And so what the Labor Party here in Australia has done is they’ll get lost on this because they haven’t read a book on economics, but it’s this Keynesian economics where it’s window breaking. So they believe that if you keep breaking windows, the GDP will go up because the glazier is going to make more money. And, it’s all that in conjunction with Fabian socialism. So Fabian socialism is what:

 

“We want the windows to be broken because we want more money wasted on fixing windows instead of building the power system.”

 

And so Fabian socialists or Fabian Communists, Fabian Marxists. They’re ultimately Marxists. They want to create this workers revolution through accelerating the decline of society by wasting as much money as possible.

 

And so that’s why the NDIS is the way it is. That’s why the NDIS is bigger than the defense budget. That’s why we spend more money on parasites and retards than we do on protecting the nation from foreign invasion. It’s why we spend so much money on basically compounding problems. Not fixing problems, but compounding problems! And the problem itself is often the expenditure, the wastage, the fact that we’re taxing the noble, the good, the healthy, and we’re giving to the evil and the weak and the disgusting and the decrepit.

 

And this is Kali Yuga stuff. This is end of time stuff. This is what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. Why you have to read Mein Kampf. It’s not negotiable. It’s not negotiable! If there’s only one book you should read, it’s Mein Kampf, because he explains all of this. He explains exactly what’s happening, exactly why it’s happening and exactly what you need to do to stop it from continuing to destroy your society.

 

So that’s why they’re window breaking. That’s why the Labor Party and all the Greenies and all these freaks, they’re all on board with destroying society through taking money from good people and giving it to broken people. And what that does is that what you feed grows. And they know that! They know that! They know it and they’ve already projected how that industry is going to expand. And it is beyond political parties. I mean it’s the Uni-Party doing it. It’s not just the Labor Party. But it obviously gets worse under one and then the other does Labor Party light. They do Fabian socialism light. That’s what the Liberal Party is. It’s homosexuality light. Fabian socialism light. Retard economics light. You know it’s diet retardation!

 

Anyway. Aboriginal communism. Yeah. Where are we? Yeah. I don’t normally do Superchats mid conversation but Delvian said:

 

“Isn’t the abo love a second order consequence of White men becoming feminised and White women hating their own men?”

 

There’s definitely an element to that. I think there’s a lot of different components to the so-called “Aboriginal love”. There’s the false enlightenment, there’s self hatred. Yes. There’s virtue signaling. So society is structured wrong, which is what we’re going to get into with the feminine society and the woman question. Society is structured with an inversion of natural law. The moral framework of society is an inversion of what our society was built on.

 

So that is often described as late stage decline or degeneration where you forget what your purpose was to such an extent where it’s upside down. There’s obviously nefarious influence. There’s particular (((interest groups))) that are a particular ethno-religious orientation and they compound and accelerate and destabilise. Certainly. They’re obviously a major player in that process but it does happen on its own. And you know there’s a lot of, I won’t go into all the proverbs and quotes on the subject but this festering can only exist if you’re already going in that direction. What we need is a complete re-evaluation of values. And you know we have gone through two or three generations of a nihilist phase and we are re interpreting and revaluing our values. We are so far ahead morally of where we were 50 years ago. And people will aay:

 

“No! That’s not true. No! People were so conservative back in the day.”

 

And it’s like they were running off inertia. They hadn’t actually evaluated their values. They were just running off inertia. We’re actually so much further ahead by going through the decline, seeing the nihilism, seeing the hedonism.

 

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And I have so much faith and hope in the young generation. Young White people across the world, obviously, a lot of them are infected with the social disease. A lot of them are infected. But the ones that aren’t infected with the social disease have immunity. They have immunity! They have built up. They don’t need to be injected with anything. They have natural immunity! Young White people across the Western world are growing up immune to this social disease. And the disease of our time is not the plague. It’s not the Spanish Flu. It’s not? What is it? You know, all the ones that people, tuberculosis. It’s not these things that are killing people anymore, you know.

 

And Edward Dutton covers this a lot. I’ve talked about this on streams for years and years, and I’m so glad someone actually wrote a book about it. I’ve only read the blurb. I haven’t actually read the whole book, but I might actually get around to reading it at some point. But Dutton covers this and he explains that just the mutational load has the selection process now is, are you a retard or are you not? And if you’re not a retard, you’re most likely immune to the retardation that’s destroying our society.

 

So, yeah. All right, we’ll do it. We’ll go into the woman question. Check the comments first. Someone says:

 

“Ban women!”

 

No, we don’t need to ban them. Reese White says:

 

“Thomas. So are you a fan of Adam Green?”

 

I don’t really know anything about Adam Green. I’ve seen him on Twitter. He’s the anti-Christian guy, isn’t he? He’s kind of built like a platform. I haven’t seen him at all! I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t really know anything about him. I only know of him. Yeah, I can’t comment on that question. I’ve seen a lot of people attack him saying he’s jewish, and I’ve seen him say that Christianity is jewish.

 

So it’s like everyone’s saying:

 

“You’re a jew! No, you’re a jew! No, you’re a jew!”

 

And it’s like I’m not getting into it. It’s not in my sphere. I think I’ve seen him do chats with HT [Handsome Truth]. Yeah, we will cover a little bit of Christianity here. But yeah, you all know I’m not Christian. But we will cover it and we’ll cover it in a respectful way. I think that any criticism people have of Christianity should be done respectfully. I know that’s hard to do. It is very hard to do. But this is a, yeah, I try to be as secular as possible and yeah, let’s start with that. Let’s actually start with Christianity.

 

Let’s start with. If we’re going to talk about the woman question, let’s talk about Christianity.

 

So the Hebrew mythology or the Hebrew founding story is Adam and Eve. It’s a bit different to other founding stories, but you’ll find there’s so much similarities when you’re talking about the origins of man from. And I don’t use mythology. I don’t say mythology in a bad way. I don’t say it in a, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m not putting a pejorative on it. You know, all founding myth is myth. It’s mythos. We don’t know for sure, but we can respect myth. I respect myth. Yeah, and geez, we’re already into it.

 

But we all know the story Genesis. So we have this perfect garden of peace and harmony and the founding story of Christianity and therefore the founding message, the founding message of Christianity is that women are inherently attracted to evil. And breaching the peace and harmony of the garden that’s created by the father.

 

So it’s kind of like women inherently have to “shit test” a situation, a society, a these aren’t my words. This is not even my personal interpretation. I didn’t come up with this is what the Bible says.

 

And anyone that has a different version of Genesis is a moron and hasn’t read it. So many Christians haven’t read the Bible. Probably one of my main issues with Christians is that they haven’t read the Bible. I don’t think you should be allowed to call yourself a Christian if you haven’t read the Bible.

 

And likewise, I don’t think people should call themselves a National Socialist if they haven’t read Mein Kampf. I don’t think you should say that. I think you should say I’m interested in National Socialism, but I don’t think you should identify with it. You should hear the words from the man. He says it all. He outlines 95% of it in one book. And it’s a lot easier to read than the Bible. The Bible is a very hard book to read. It’s very tedious at parts. It, sure, it has beautiful parts, like all religious books have beautiful parts, but it is a very hard read. It’s a very long book. It’s like a million words. It takes a long time. Unless you race through it, if you race through it, you’re going to miss things. But Genesis is very clear. Like the first books, Genesis and Exodus, these things are very clear. Very, very clear. There’s no, not much nuance to it.

 

Now there’s obviously different mythological interpretations. What is the snake and what is the apple and what is God’s command and all this. But if you’re going to found a religion off this principle, it’s going to bleed through the whole text, isn’t it?

 

So whatever you’re reading later on in the Bible has to always come back to Genesis and a belief system that men and women were created unequally, that man was created from breathing life into dust or into matter. Women were created from the rib of man, so from the side. So it’s a peer, but it’s not an equal peer. There’s some sort of difference there. And so, I mean, obviously.

 

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But I was talking to Jacob recently and he’s been deep diving Plato. Absolutely deep diving Plato. I’ve read the Republic, but I haven’t read much else from Plato. And he was negging Aristotle, which I was surprised at because I actually prefer, at this stage, I prefer Aristotle to Plato, not to get too much into philosophy, but I’ve only read the Republic. So and I didn’t really rate it, to be honest. I thought it was an interesting dialogue, but I didn’t rate it as much as it gets glazed. But he’s been reading all the other stuff. Full deep diving into everything, every single thing the guy’s written. And what he said to me was, and this is very recently, he said to me that the Greeks believed that, or Plato believed, and this became quite a common belief system, that if that souls were created, this is before Christianity, they believe that souls were created fresh and that they were all men, that if you lived a bad life, if you were a bit, you know, weak or immoral, that you would be reincarnated in your next life as a woman. And this became a pretty well established belief system. And it’s interesting that that is in some way similar to Christianity, that they arrived at a position where they were ripe for proselytisation from Christian apostles.

 

So let’s start there. Obviously, European Paganism is many things, just as Christianity is many things. There’s so much schism within Paganism. And when you’re talking generally about Paganism, you’re talking about general principles which we know from Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Indus Valley, and obviously Germanic and Celtic Paganism. And people will cherry pick what they want.

 

There are female church leaders at the moment. I mean, that’s just absurd to me that the whole book is a document saying that women can’t accurately interpret God. They can’t accurately communicate or interpret or follow instruction from God. And therefore they shouldn’t be in charge of the Church. They can’t be in charge of society, they can’t be in charge of the Church. They just don’t possess the correct component to do that. And the whole religion is founded on that principle.

 

And then you have such a degradation of the Church that you now have women pastors and preachers and priests, priestesses or whatever you’d call them. I mean, it’s absurd! It’s not my church, I’m not a Christian. But the hypocrisy is despicable! It is truly despicable! So fascinating!

 

Now, Paganism has varying degrees of male and female relationships. Some interpretations of Paganism are a bit more equitable, others a lot less equitable.

 

So when we go back to the ancients and when we look at thousands of years of civilisation, there is not really any society that has treated men and women as the same, nor has there been a society that has treated women the way women are being treated right now! And it’s not a surprise that our birth rates are really low. Any society that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any civilisation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any nation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies! And therefore it is a footnote in somebody else’s history.

 

So we have to reevaluate our values and we have to completely change the way we behave or we’re going to die!

 

And so the woman question is the same question as White genocide. It’s the same question as White replacement. You cannot separate the two. You can’t say:

 

“Let’s stick to just White nationalism and let’s not talk about how evil feminism is. Let’s talk about White replacement. But we’ve got to keep women on side. We can’t say things that might hurt the feelings of women.”

 

And as I said at the start of the stream, this is a really dumb, weak, coward strategy that’s going to cause us to die as a race! Women don’t respect pandering. They find it disgusting! Feminists are pure evil! And they will because of there’s some force, you know, Christians could say they’re possessed. And I do put a lot of weight in possession. I know not everyone does because not everyone believes they have a soul. And not everyone believes in metaphysics or in like a spirit realm. And so people that are very rational will say:

 

“This person’s unwell, or this person’s mentally ill.”

 

All means the same thing. Whereas the more religious or spiritual way of looking at it is this person is spiritually ill, this person’s potentially possessed. And this isn’t very electable, but I have witnessed what I could only describe as exorcisms. I have seen the way some people have behaved, and there is no rational or logical explanation other than this person is possessed. This person has a demon, a demon in them! They’re not at rest. They’re not in harmony. They’re not. There’s something that is currently occupying them and it’s potentially just a phase, but if it keeps occurring, it’s like there’s something that rears its head, something unbecoming.

 

And that’s a difficult conversation to have with people that don’t believe in demons. They don’t believe that it could be possible. They’re so far into post Enlightenment rationalism that just:

 

“It’s so irrational, the idea that there are forces beyond our control that could perhaps be bad forces!”

 

You know, we can acknowledge that there is a good force and inherently good force on earth, but then we want to pretend that there’s not an inherently bad force on earth?

 

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So instead of arguing about whether Christianity is cucked or not, instead a better conversation is, what can we learn from Christianity? Where is Christianity right? And where is modern Christianity wrong? Or where is Christianity philosophically wrong? That’s a much more important discussion and it’s a more respectful discussion as well. Because what you’ll find is I can have these conversations. I had a conversation recently, probably 20, 30 minutes, with some Christian guys in America, and we could have a respectful conversation about what’s happening through that lens, through that lens of that there is an evil that is possessing. There is a snake in the garden, and it’s corrupting women. And then women are corrupting men. And that women, sorry, men, are aware of the snake. Snake, but most men are not aware of how this snake has perverted women.

 

And so the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read] is we need to normalise Patriarchy. I’m a big, big proponent of Patriarchy. I think that Patriarchy is the only way to save the White race. We cannot save the White race through feminism. We cannot save the White race through equality. We can only save the White race through a proper Patriarchy. A proper Patriarchy! And whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, enlightened, not enlightened, Catholic, orthodox, doesn’t matter! We cannot solve male, female. It does not matter! We cannot solve this problem without Patriarchy.

 

Now, it’s very easy for me to acknowledge Patriarchy because, one, I had a really good father. I have a really good father. My father’s still alive. I have a really good father. A really good father! And he has his flaws. Absolutely! And that’s product of environment and breeding and everything else. Right. We all have our flaws. I have my flaws. Product of environment and breeding and circumstance. But we’re on a mission! My bloodline has definitely been through the wars, and we’re on our way back up. All right. There’s a few more generations of work to do to really get us back on track. But I’m part of a Patriarchy. I have a lot of respect for my family name, my line, my lineage, my ancestry. This is really important to me.

 

And, it’s easy for me to accept and acknowledge this harsh reality. It’s not even a harsh reality. This reality because of what I come from. Women that have good fathers can accept this as well. Most women that can’t accept Patriarchy, they don’t have any respect for their fathers. And they don’t have respect for their fathers because their fathers don’t deserve respect.

 

Respect is not something that you’re entitled to. It is only earned. And I know that’s a platitude, and some people might think that’s a meaningless platitude, but that is absolutely core! Respect is earned! You’re not entitled to anyone’s respect. This is, I think, a false enlightenment principle that, like you should just respect the retard being moved around in the wheelchair. Like, what? What planet are these people on? Like, why that makes you a good person? How does that make me a good person? You know what quality of life is the drooling retard, God? And why are we wasting all our tax dollars paying for the drooling retard? This is solved very easily by Patriarchy. It’s not just solved by having a department in government that deals with the problem. It’s solved by Patriarchy.

 

And so one of the first principles of Patriarchy is that every man is king and priest and judge of his own house! I’ll say it again, for those that aren’t listening. The first principle of Patriarchy is that every man is king, is priest, is judge of his own house! And general. That was a component as well. There’s a martial component to it. And so every son, every boy wants to respect his father for the man that he is. And I can’t empath into how girls think, because I’m not a girl, but I would assume it’s similar. Not the same, but I assume it’s similar. I obviously have daughters. And you know what I was sad about when I was growing up? Not sad, but one thing I was surprised at was I asked my dad why he never joined the army. Because I know his dad was in the navy or in the Defense Force. I know his granddad was in the army.

 

And I remember asking my dad:

 

“Why weren’t you in the army?”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, look.”

 

Because they had the draught for the Vietnam War, and he was of that age, and he just never got called up. So he was like:

 

“Oh, I got lucky!”

 

That was his answer. I think he said something:

 

“I got lucky. You know, you put your birthday in. You had to register. You put your birthday in.”

 

And he said something about “balls with birthdays” on them. Like, it was like the lotto. Like, they’d pull a ball out. And if it was like, March 18th, which is my dad’s birthday, then you’re going, you’re signing up.

 

And I thought that was absurd! But it’s one way to do it. I mean, it’s fucking clown world! But anyway, that was his position, was like:

 

“Oh, he got lucky. He avoided it.”

 

And I always thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool? I always thought, wouldn’t it be cool to walk into my dad’s office and he’s got all his, like, armour and his rifle? And I just had this idea of like. And it’s probably ancient. It’s probably something like an altar, like an altar to Mars, like an altar to masculinity, an altar to the Patriarchy. And then to be able to see my grandfathers and you know there are families that still, they keep all their family medals, the war medals and stuff.

 

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But I mean let’s put that on steroids. It’s not just having like the medals, it’s like walk in and be able to see like generations and generations of uniforms and rifles and, or even before going all the way back to a family sword. That just, that idea is just so cool! And I think every like 10 year old boy thinks like that.

 

And if you don’t, you’re probably a faggot, or maybe you had the idea but in a different way. But if that doesn’t seem cool to you, yeah, fuck you basically! I don’t know. Yeah, you’re not in my gang, that’s for sure. You’re not in my tribe.

 

So back to the woman question. So [chuckling] respect, respect. You can respect that. And I didn’t respect my dad as much as I would have if we had something like that. If my dad had something like I kind of lost a little bit of respect for my dad when I was like 10 years old. When I was like:

 

“Why wasn’t my dad. His answer was he ‘got lucky’.”

 

I was like:

 

“Huh, I don’t know if that’s luck.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like why would that be lucky? Obviously it’s a dumb war and blah, blah, blah and geopolitics is so broken and everything now.

 

But I think part of us is whether you go and fight in a war or not, I think men should be war-like. And I think the “retard budget” should be directed entirely into well first of all we shouldn’t be taxed as much as we are. So there shouldn’t even be a retard budget.

 

But obviously I like when we take power. I’m deleting the retard budget and putting all of it or most of it or some of it into building like the Stormtrooper halo suit Department. I’ve said this before.

 

To get back onto, someone just says:

 

“Fuck employment!”

 

[chuckling] Modern world does a Superchat:

 

“Thoughts on the employee question.”

 

I actually haven’t watched the podcast that young Michael Nelson did on the subject of employment but I can imagine what he was saying. My position has always been that you need to be productive, you need to be productive, you need to find a way of being productive. You don’t want to just sit around doing nothing! But you need to have times of sitting around doing nothing in order to think of productive things to do.

 

And when you’re in employment, like I have had nothing but issues with like Gen-X’s and Boomers that have employed me over the years where they want you to work 50, 60 hour weeks, they want you just in employment, they want you just head down and just hammer drill in the concrete and just ernnn! Or if you’re doing some other job that’s slightly more technical or less manual labour, it’s the same thing. It’s just head down and you’ve just got no time, no time to be a better man. You’re just stuck in a trap! You’re stuck in like a debt trap. And I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where anyone except slaves have worked six days a week or even five days a week. I just think that that’s slavery and they’re boxing us in. We’re getting boxed in and boxed in and boxed in! It’s so obvious what’s happening and it’s so obvious why Zoomers especially and Gen Alpha will be even more so, why people are checking out of this employee, … We’re just getting boxed in.

 

Like we’ve gone from nice blocks of land. There’s plenty of things to do, there’s plenty of animals to tend to. And then you work a couple days a week, you know, old mate needs help with something, you go help him, this guy and people were these warrior farmer builders first, and they were doctors and doctors and dentists and lawyers and tradesmen or skilled labourers second. And it was the pleb class. It’s always historically been the pleb class that became entirely microscopically focused on a singular trade. So like I do pottery, that’s all I do they live in a tiny little house in the city in Rome and they’re the Potter. And all they do is pottery and they just make pots and nothing else. And they do it six days a week, 12 hours a day. And they make pots and they sell the pots and they make pots and they sell the pots. That is what slaves do. That’s what slaves do. That’s slavery!

 

And so, but the whole economics is geared against us because of what they’ve done, because of interest, because of debt slavery. It’s because of debt slavery we can’t build intergenerational wealth where we can have big families on large plots of land where we can learn a whole bunch of skills and manage our farms and feed ourselves and look after ourselves in tight knit communities.

 

The whole economics is now geared that everyone’s a little bug, a little cog in the system. They do their little bug roll and they get their little bug ration and this is broken. This is not sustainable. It’s not going to last. How many generations is this going to go on for? Judging by how much Zoomers want to check out, I’d suggest that Alphas or Betas or what like two or three generations from now, if this problem hasn’t solved itself, I would assume things are gonna be very different.

 

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And obviously tying this into politics we’re gonna completely change the zoning laws. Part of the problem with this is people living on 200 square metre little blocks, apartments, townhouses. Part of this is just so dysgenic. We need to not be slave bug people. We need space, we need land, we need multitudes of tasks. Specialisation is key. Don’t get me wrong. We built higher civilisation because individuals did hyper specialise into things. But making pots is not a hyper specialisation. You know what I mean? Like historically people did their specialisation part time. They’d worked a couple days a week doing, and it was usually what was called journeymen. They were usually journeymen like if they were a dentist, or a doctor or whatever and obviously there was no such thing as a lawyer. The whole system worked differently, like tradition, ancient culture and the higher becoming. We have better technology now, but it’s made us, I think we can do both. I think we can continue to improve technology without living like bugs. And I don’t think that interest slavery helped us increase our technology. The increasing technology is part of the life cycle. It’s part of the life cycle of civilisation. And it’s not going to continue progressing in this direction forever for two reasons. One, the law of diminishing returns. And two, we are destroying our stock. So we can’t. We’re going to be in a system decline. The car, the calibre of men that built the society. We can’t even maintain it. We can’t even maintain it.

 

And there’s an elite. They call it elite overproduction. But it’s not. It’s the false elite overproduction. We’ve built a false elite and that’s why these rodents that are all 100, 105 IQ, they got Master’s degrees. They’re absolute midwits! They’re not idiots, but they’re absolute midwits! They are the ones running this into the ground. We have allowed midwits to take over society!

 

And I’m not going to talk about what my IQ is because I don’t think it’s super important, but I think it’s clear that it’s at least one or two standard deviations above average. And we’re having midwits go through university, male and female, and then they’re taking elite positions, but there’s not enough elite positions, so they have to create positions for these other fake elites.

 

And that’s like psychology, for example. You’ve got so many idiots going through university and studying psychology. And so we’ve created a whole industry of government rebates here in Australia and in America you’ve got all this drug prescription and all this mental illness and all this compounding issues of the parasitism of psychology. Psychology, psychoanalysis, psychotherapists, all of this is a parasite economy. They’re all parasites. They’re all parasites! It’s one giant parasite economy! And the purpose of it is to continue to make the problem worse so that they can have employment. And so they will never, ever be able to solve the problem because a purpose of a system is what it does.

 

So that’s just one element of university that’s caused this over education. We’ve got this over education where if you don’t go to university, you’re a moron. And it’s like we have more engineers and architects than we’ve ever had and our society is uglier and more broken! So it shows you that exclusion is the rule to greatness. You need to be exclusive in order to create hyper specialisation. You can’t just send everyone to university or the vast majority of people to university, and then think:

 

“Oh my God, society is getting so much better!”

 

It’s like, no, we’re running off the inertia of intelligent, hyper selective people. And the show’s about to come to a halt. We have printed so much money! They’re literally printing like $8 trillion, not a trillion, 8 billion dollars a day in the US to keep their bullshit fake economy going. And it’s just leading to the Weimar conditions. And we’re going to pay for all of this. We’re going to pay for all of this.

 

And that’s why you need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. And I’ve gone off topic from Patriarchy, but it all ties together. You can’t cover the subject without covering it all. Obviously. I’ll take a pause and I’ll come back.

 

Someone asked me about the employment question. Yeah. You gotta have skills. Look, you gotta have skills. Home of the brave, says:

 

“Tom, you’re the embodiment of the spiritual healing of the entire European race. Hey, we approach phase one of total re-migration of nons in the West. Segregation. Stay safe!”

 

Nah, I can’t do that on the stream. It’s a good question. I appreciate the question. Maybe I can leave that to the end. I can’t do that at this stage. I have to cover the woman question. Celine says:

 

“As a younger White woman, I’ve had to come to terms with Jesus being brown when I’ve always pictured him as a tall White man. Jesus being brown makes me deny it. Christianity is more of a woman thing.”

 

I don’t necessarily agree with. I don’t know what Jesus looked like. But I’ll tell you a really funny story. I’m not sure if I told this story on stream. Obviously all the Christian identitarians are raging at you now because they’re all saying Jesus was blonde hair, blue eyed, Aryan. I saw a really funny post yesterday or last night where some guy was saying that Jesus was Italian. He was like:

 

“He was born in Judea of the Roman province of Syria. He was therefore Roman. He was therefore Italian. Jesus was Italian!”

 

I just thought it was funny. Obviously he’s not being serious, but I wonder what the implications of everyone saying Jesus was Italian would be. And whether that’s like a bit of an icebreaker. Because it’s like people say Jesus is a jew. Well, the Bible says Jesus is a jew. And then Christian Identitarian said Jesus was like a Nordic Aryan. And then it’d be funny if we just say like:

 

“We meet at halfway and say Jesus was Sicilian or something!”

 

That’ll [chuckling] cause drama, won’t it, that one! But that just would be funny. We’re like, Jesus was White passing. That’s like the compromise. Now I know you people don’t believe in compromise. They want it one way or the other. Maybe that’ll keep the peace for like five minutes. If we just say Jesus was Italian. It’s a theory. What’s the funny story? So someone in the conversation tell me if I’ve said this before on stream. I can’t remember. Some [chuckling] guy replied, “smartest women woman”. Look, I think I’ve only told this story in person. It’s story time. I might have said it once on stream.

 

[1:33:41]

 

So the last time I was in prison last year I was in solitary confinement and I wanted a Bible. Actually, this Bible right here, this one right here. King James. I wanted a King James Bible because I got my other prison Bible. This is the prison Bible I got the first time into prison. It’s the NIV*. Look at that. [chuckling] Presented to Thomas Sewell, Melbourne Assessment Prison. That was in 2021.

 

[* The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.]

 

Anyway. This is now:

 

“Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. Adam and his wife were both naked and they felt no shame.”

 

Genesis 3:16:

 

“To the woman, he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe. With painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you’.”

 

“Then the Lord said to Cain, where is your brother Abel? I don’t know. He replied, am I my brother’s keeper? The Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for. You will be a restless wanderer of the earth.”

 

Yes, well, they got the mark on him. And I really wonder when circumcision started and when the restless wanderers of the earth started getting the anti-semitisms on him. Anyway, that’s just a theory. I won’t go too deep into that or piss people off.

 

But anyway, I got that version and I read it in full.

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow, okay!”

 

I probably should have read this the first time, but I wasn’t ready because you kind of you read the Bible when you’re a kid and you just like, you don’t read it properly, you don’t read it in full. And when you’re in solid confinement, you get a lot of time to read the Bible. And I read the NIV and I was like:

 

“Whoa, okay, this is definitely eye opening.”

 

And everyone’s trying to convert me. And I’m like:

 

“No, I can’t. Like, I just read it. I just read the whole thing. Are you kidding me?”

 

And they were like:

 

“You read the wrong translation.”

 

So then this time I went to prison. I went and got a King James. It didn’t make any difference for me. But I do think the King James is a better Bible. But story time.

 

So how did I get the King James Bible? So when I got to prison this time I got sent to Barwon, which is a much nicer prison. It’s older, but it is better. And because I was in Port Phillip before that. And they wouldn’t give me a Bible, they took my Bible off me. I got another NIV. I got a wait, is that King. No. So that’s a King James. No, they took it off me, sorry. I got that one later I got another NIV and when I got transferred from Melbourne Assessment the second time to the prison, the Barwon prison, they took my NIV off me and I had to fill out a form to get another Bible.

 

And I was like:

 

“Why? Why would you take the Bible off me? I don’t understand. Just let me keep the book.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, it’s not your property. It’s the property of the MAP.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“So you’re going to send the Bible back to the MAP, back to the other prison?”

 

It’s just crazy! But they’re just there to fuck with you. That’s their existence. And they won’t even let a non-Christian man keep his Christian book. And so then I had to fill out a form to get a Bible. And to get a Bible you had to have a meeting with a priest.

 

So if you want a Quran, you could have a meeting with an imam. If you want to. Whatever it is what it is. I don’t know what the Buddhists have. But like there was these boxes you could tick. I ticked the Christian box and I picked the Anglican one because I’m an Anglo Saxon and I’m not a Catholic, I’m not orthodox, and my grandmother was Anglican. None of the men in my family went to church really, but the women did. And they were Anglicans and so, Church of England. So I picked the Anglican box and it took two weeks.

 

And then this guy, I get pulled out of my cell and I get put in like a visitor room and I’m put in there with a priest. And I’ll just check the comments. Have I told this story on stream? Because I won’t go into too much detail if I have. Oh Jesus, so many comments. Have I told this story before? I’ll just tell the story!

 

And so he was like. I asked him:

 

“Why are you Christian?”

 

And he told me a story. The priest, he said that when he was a teenager he was really angry and him and his mates went out to this golf course and they had a BB gun and they shot a bunch of magpies or something. A bird, I can’t remember what type of bird I think was a magpie. Magpies. And he just felt horrible! He just felt horrible about it afterwards. He had a lot of regret and guilt about killing these magpies.

 

[1:40:02]

 

And then, he was raised in a Christian household, in a Christian environment, but he just wouldn’t go to church. And after like leaving the Church for a year or two and kind of hanging out with the wrong kids and you know, doing bad stuff, like shooting magpies with BB guns, as like most 14 year old boys probably would if they had a BB gun, he started noticing the kids walking home from church. They just looked happier. They just looked happier. And he was like:

 

“I wanted that happiness. I wasn’t happy and I wanted that happiness. And so I started going back to church and I asked my priest, when I was 14, I said I want to be happy like the other kids, they’re all happy. Why am I happy? And the priest said to me, you have to surrender yourself to God. You have to be God’s slave. You have to submit yourself. And once you submit yourself, then you’ll be happy. Then you’ll finally find peace. Because you’re fighting God and that’s why you’re unhappy. And you just have to stop fighting. You have to give up! And when you give up and you let go, then you’ll finally be happy.”

 

And he says:

 

“Why do you ask?”

 

And I was like:

 

“So I asked because I’m not Christian, but I ticked the Anglican box because it was the closest thing that I could do. But what I really want is a Bible. So I’ve got something to read in here because they’re torturing me and I’d like a Bible.”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, okay, okay, yeah, but why do you want to know why I’m a Christian?”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, I’m just fascinated. I want to know your story. Like you’re a priest. Like you’re obviously highly motivated to be a Catholic, Anglican priest. You know, I just, I want to learn more about your journey and like how that, how do you become an Anglican priest?”

 

And then we talk a lot more about this subject. And he’s very, he’s very apprehensive. He’s very like on the back foot the whole time, very defensive. And yeah, just the way he explained it to me, I said to him:

 

“You know, do you still have this same attitude? Like, do you still feel this way about God? Is that your relationship with God?”

 

And he said to me, he said:

 

“I wake up every morning, and the first thing I do every morning is I pray to God and I say, God, I am your slave. Let your will be done through me! I am your vessel. I am your slave on this earth!”

 

And I was like:

 

“You do that every morning?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yep, that’s what I do.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow! That is fascinating!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“It is, isn’t it? And I know that might sound really intense, but it works. It works for me! And I’m so much happier. Life is so much easier this way. It’s just so much easier! Like, I don’t feel what I used to feel. And, look, I still have challenges, and I’m a grandfather now, and da, da, da, da. But life is just so much easier this way!”

 

Okay, [chuckling] what the fuck! Okay. Anyway, an hour goes by, we shake hands, and he goes:

 

“Nice to meet you, Tom. Blah, blah, blah.”

 

And then the second time I meet him, so I ticked the box again. I want to have another conversation. He says to me right at the end, he goes:

 

“Do you want to meet me again? Do you want to talk to me again?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely! I really enjoyed this conversation.”

 

“Are you sure?”

 

I said:

 

“Yeah, I really enjoyed this conversation. I really enjoyed it. I would like to meet you again.”

 

And he said:

 

“Okay, well, what about next week?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Maybe not next week. I need a bit more time to digest this conversation. But maybe give me two weeks.”

 

He said:

 

“Okay, two weeks, Same time, same day.”

 

I’m like:

 

“Excellent!”

 

So this is my only human contact. I’m in a concrete box for two weeks straight. And then I meet up with him again. He walks in and he’s nervous. He’s so nervous! And he says:

 

“Tom, I have to be honest with you. I Googled your name. I thought I recognised you, but I Googled your name, and it was really hard for me to come in today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh! Why is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“Because, … There’s a lot of people in this prison, and they’ve really beautiful people that have done really horrible things. And I’ve never felt like this before where I felt selfish that I didn’t want to come in. But I prayed to God this morning, and I said God, I don’t want to talk to this man. I don’t like this man. I think this man is evil, and I don’t want to speak to him. What should I do? And what God told me was that’s why you have to go speak to him. Because he’s evil. Because he’s evil, you have to go speak to him. That’s why!”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, okay, all right.”

 

And then I said to him:

 

“You ever spoken to a paedophile?”

 

I said:

 

“Have you ever felt that way about a paedophile?”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, no. There are some really beautiful people in this prison. Some really beautiful people in this prison.”

 

“Never felt that way about a paedophile? Okay, interesting! Well, luckily, you are God’s slave, and that God forced you to come in here today to speak to me!”

 

And [chuckling] he said:

 

“I want to show you something. I want to show you my God! I want to show you my God!”

 

And I was like:

 

“Okay, you want to show me your God?”

 

“Are you ready? Are you ready for my god?”

 

It’s this weird, passive aggressive, feminine. He’s got tears in his eyes. And he’s like:

 

“Before I do, can I ask you a question? Why did you want to speak with me?”

 

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And I said to him:

 

“Because I told you the truth last time. My grandmother was an Anglican. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I ticked the Anglo box, not the Catholic box. Simple as.”

 

And he was like:

 

“But me specifically, did you know I was the Anglican priest. Me, personally?”

 

And I was like, I think his name was [changed]. And I was like:

 

“Leslie, I don’t know who you are. I just know that you’re an Anglican priest.”

 

He goes:

 

“You don’t know about my past?”

 

I was like:

 

“No, I don’t know. What is your past?”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I want to tell you a story, Tom. You know, I had to take a stand against, … I mean, there’s a lot of evil men in the world., …”

 

And he’s talking like a lesbian. He speaks like a lesbian, right? He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of, …”

 

Like a feminist. He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of evil men in the world. And Donald Trump comes to mind, and Adolf Hitler comes to mind. And when I was younger, there was a man that came to power in Australia that reminds me of Donald Trump, and his name was John Howard. And when John Howard came to power, he had an immigration minister called Peter Dutton, who you might know, because he was running for prime minister recently. And they imprisoned people in concentration camps on, …”

 

I think it was like, Manus Island or something, one of these islands off the coast of Australia:

 

“And there were these people, these desperate, honest, loving, caring, they were God’s children, and they wanted to come to Australia, and they begged for our help and our safety. And they were refugees, …”

 

And he’s literally crying! He’s literally crying!:

 

“And we locked them and their children in concentration camps on these islands and treated them so horribly! And I had to make a stand, so I went and visited them!”

 

So he goes to the concentration camp and he’s like. [chuckling] He says:

 

“And I like painting. And I met this man, and he was a refugee, …”

 

And I think he was Iranian or Iraqi or something like that. I think Iraqi. And he goes:

 

“And I met this Iraqi man, and his name was Fadim, …”

 

Or some shit! And he goes:

 

“I said to him, you are so beautiful! You are such a beautiful man. Can I paint you? I want to paint you. Will you let me paint you?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Yes, I’ll let you paint me. And then I painted him.”

 

And it’s hot. It’s so weird! He’s holding a, he’s got like a, he’s got the, … Imagine this is the painting of the guy, but he’s got it like this, and he’s holding it on the table, and he’s holding it upside down. And he’s holding upside down on the table, and he’s like:

 

“I want to show you this. And the reason why I want to show you this is because when I was painting him, I looked into his eyes and he was crying. He had tears in his eyes as I was painting him. And I was painting him. And the whole time I was thinking about Jesus on the donkey going into Bethlehem as a refugee, needing safety. And I thought, this man is from that region. This man is from the same region, very similar region, near the Euphrates. And he’s a refugee as well., …”

 

You can predict the whole conversation, can’t you? Like, I’m drawing it out, but I’m drawing it out for effect. This was the tone this guy was taking with me.

 

“And I still remember. And I thought to myself, this is what Jesus would look like, and this is how Jesus would feel if he was here right now with us, seeing what John Howard, behaving in a fascist man manner, putting these innocent people in concentration camps! This is how Jesus would be looking at me. So I painted him. So I painted my God! This is my God, Thomas! This is my God!”

 

And then he shows me a painting of a brown man crying. And he’s like:

 

“This is my God! How do you feel?”

 

A picture of a brown man crying. And I was like:

 

“Fascinating! Fascinating! That’s your God?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I want you to have this. I want you to put this up in your cell.”

 

And I was like:

 

“No, no, I don’t want it. It’s your painting.”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, this is a copy of it. This isn’t the one I painted. This is a copy. I want you to have it. I want you to put this in your cell and I want you to look at my God! And I think that will really help you and I think that’s why I was sent here today to give you this painting.”

 

And I was like:

 

“It’s a decent painting. You’ve done a good job painting it, for sure. This is not my God! This is your God. This is not my God! I can’t put this in my cell. It’s just not my God! Not my God! There are many gods. This one’s not mine. This is your one!”

 

And [chuckling] that was the end of the conversation! And yeah, fuck, I’ve just had too much life experience at this stage! [chuckling]

 

[1:52:11]

 

And when I got out of jail, I’m gonna Google this church that this guy’s from. And it’s like gay flags and trans rights and refugees are welcome and all this shit!

 

And it’s like [chuckling] women pastors! These people, they’re sick! They make me sick! People in the chat saying, Jesus’ Italian. Man. A lot of, lot of Superchats to go through. Jeez. How much more do you want me to go, in a detail about that one? Oh, I don’t know what it is. It’s not dopamine, but it’s some sort of chemical. There’s some chemical in the brain. It’s just surreal! It’s like a surreal chemical. It’s not dopamine. It’s the surrealism of it. It’s the surrealism. Hyper, hyper, what do they call it? Hyper realism. How are these people real? They share this planet with us. What planet are they on?:

 

“I felt really bad for the magpies. That’s why I had to go back to the Church!”

 

Well, yeah, obviously you shouldn’t just like indiscriminately kill animals!

 

But what he was doing at 14 was what all 14 year old boys do, is they’re testing themselves. They’re seeing, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I put meat on the table? Can I put meat on the table?

 

And I said to him:

 

“Are you a vegetarian now?”

 

When he talked about the magpies, I said:

 

“Are you a vegetarian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, I’m not, but I make sure I thank God every time I have meat. And I thank God for what’s happened to the animal and pray for the animal.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough. That’s good. I respect that.”

 

I have a lot of respect for that. I think that’s important when you take life and you’re consuming that life. Trans. The transmutation of it. Transubstantiation. Yeah. Like you’re putting meat on the table and you shouldn’t indiscriminately kill, but you’re doing what all teenage boys do when they’re going through puberty is they’re seeing not just if they can do it, but they go over the top. You know what I mean? They go a little, you go a little bit over the top and then you dial it back in. You’re like:

 

“All right, that was unnecessary.”

 

But he’s gone, he’s dialled it back in so much that his God is a brown man crying. That he has to live with White people!:

 

“He has to come live with the White people! He has to! We have to let them in! We have to!”

 

This is what his God wants. So look, obviously if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this, you would be disgusted by that story, that this is the calibre of priests. This is not Patriarchy. This is not the original church. This is not anything like the Greeks or the Romans or the Hebrews or even the jews. This is like the jews don’t even behave this way. This is like sub-Aryan and sub, even sub-Hebrew behaviour. And like ancient Hebrew, if we’re going to call it that. But this is like a completely poisoned chalice and these people are church leaders.

 

And so, yeah, it’s been completely infiltrated by communists. This is the downward path. They’re cherry picking document a book that has a lot in it.

 

As I said, the Bible’s a million things! There’s a million words in it. There’s a lot going on in that book. You can cherry pick whatever you want to articulate something, but what you can’t lie about is the general progression of themes and the general moral structure that the Bible is putting forward.

 

Now, is there, in my opinion, contradictions of the moral structure? I think there are some things that, and I’ve discussed them, I won’t go into them today. But you’ve all heard me say what I think is contradictory in there, within the moral, within the framing of a lot of things. And in short, I don’t like the story of Jacob and Esau. I don’t like that story.

 

Well, I mean, I don’t like the character! I don’t like the individual. And I don’t like the moral of that story. I think it is either miswritten or it’s not correct, it’s not right, it’s not fair, or there’s missing data, something’s missing from it. In my opinion. Like that would be the only way I could describe it as a moral story. Anyway. But the Bible’s full of that, of this kind of fight of morality. And you can see the schism of morality. You can see the schism of an ethnicity or the schism of a people are schisming, which is I guess one of the main themes of the whole text.

 

But if we just come back a little bit and we don’t talk about the Bible and Christianity, we just talk about the theme of Patriarchy, which is beyond just Christianity. I think that’s one thing the pagans and Christians can both agree on, is that we need Patriarchy.

 

And I think the Christian view is that women are inherently prone to an evil influence, just as men are, but that it infects the women first. And you can kind of see that with how giving women the right to vote and the late Enlightenment values of total, absolute human equality led to the suffragettes and led to women voting and led to first wave, second wave, third wave feminism that has come out of that structure. And we can see the damage that that has done to society. Anyone that can’t is obviously an idiot! But we can see the damage that it’s done. And yet women are also capable of fixing the situation. That’s also interesting.

 

As I said before, when I started women, more women voted for Adolf Hitler than men!

 

[1:58:41]

 

 

So that is a very redeeming quality when you realise that. Well, hang on a minute. Why? How could that possibly be? How could that possibly be? And what that might give a little bit of Credence to is this idea that when there is a strong leader, when there is a return of masculinity and a return of Patriarchy, women are actually more inclined to notice it than men. Women are more intuitive to the cure than men are. They’re more sensitive to the disease, but they’re more sensitive to the cure as well.

 

So I had a thought that ran through my head yesterday or the day before, which was, if we don’t contain women or restrain women, who will? Who’s going to? Because what we can see by the decline of the last hundred years of civilisation is we have removed the barriers, all barriers, every barrier possible, and said:

 

“No. Men and women are exactly the same!”

 

And we have done this to the detriment of women. We have not improved their life, and more importantly, we have not improved civilisation, and we have not improved the fucking mission. And the mission isn’t to make women happy. I want to make that very clear. That’s not the mission. It’s not to make men happy either. You know what this guy’s talking about? It’s like he accepted God because he wanted to be happy. That’s what Nietzsche talks about. That’s crazy! Well, it’s not crazy, but it’s like, that’s not why you should accept God. That’s selfish! That’s not the mission. Morale is not your happiness. It’s your willingness to fight. You have to fight for a mission. You have to fight for a purpose, for meaning.

 

And I believe you have to fight for life itself. Life is an upward struggle. And my religion, my personal religion is what my interpretation of Hitler’s religion is, which is that it’s about struggle into victory. And that these things aren’t necessarily steady states or acts of being, but they’re acts of becoming. Struggle is an act of becoming into victory, which is also an act of becoming.

 

So it’s never ending. It never ends. It’s like beyond time because God has to be above time. God can’t be subject to time because then he’s not God. So God is above time. So therefore, struggle and victory have to be conceived as being principles above time. That it’s like infinite struggle for infinite victory. It’s just like a yeah, it’s like you got a hail victory and you got a hail struggle. You got a hell struggle to hail victory! You know, which is a bit. Yeah, a bit different to:

 

“I just wanted to be happy! I just saw all these people around me and they were happy. And I just wanted to be happy. I just wanted to be a good person because I was a bad person!”

 

You know what? Yeah. [chuckling] Very different sense of moral structure and moral framework. So yes, Patriarchy, restraint, it’s about building a world that is driving towards this goal. And the relationship between men and women in that world is one built off respect, not pandering.

 

And so the issue with our society at the moment at a just socio-economic level with 50, 60% divorce rate, with the family courts tearing families apart like all the societal diseases we’ve got, is about, what they all come down to regarding the bad relationships between men and women and is that women have on average more respect for the government and more respect for the system, for the justice system or for the police than they do for their own husband and their own father. That’s the issue!

 

So a system needs to be built by husbands and fathers that form a collective, that form an organisation that are all on the same page with how they’re managing their family. It’s up to them how they manage their family. But they’re all roughly on the same page as to how they manage their family. A nation is a collection of families. It’s not a bunch of gay men masturbating into each other’s assholes and adopting kids. That’s not a nation. That’s just craziness! A nation is a bunch of families. You know, the family is the building block. This is not a meaningless platitude. It is the truth! You cannot have a nation without families. Because a nation is an extension of the family.

 

And so therefore the leader of a nation has to be the extension of the leader of a family. And the leader of the family is the father or the grandfather or the great grandfather, if he’s still alive. Like that is the leader of the family.

 

And that’s how society has always worked. And it’s a sacred, ancient, basically unwritten rule. I mean, we don’t even need to write this down. This is a reality.

 

And anyone that disagrees with that reality is our enemy. Because they disagree with it, because they care more about something else than making our society, our civilisation, our blood, our spirit, our life force, move upwards. They care about something else. They care about some sort of momentary happiness or some sort of:

 

“I want to feel good. I want to get along with everyone.”

 

Like this is their God, this is their God!

 

And so those people shouldn’t be given the same rights as the Patriarchs, as the people that acknowledge that:

 

“Hang on a minute. We’ve tried that. What it leads to is like millions of Indians and Arabs and Africans coming into our country and just like raping and pillaging and destroying it economically, socially, and sometimes unfortunately, physically.”

 

And these consequences are obvious. And we’re going to structure society in a way that this doesn’t happen going forward. So yeah, it’s non-negotiable. I’ll go through the comments and wrap up the stream.

 

[2:05:06]

 

Where are we? Where are we? Celine’s got another question. Just something about I don’t like Christians. Cool. Three story Rory:

 

“G’day, Thomas. What do you think about starting a petition for Joel Davis similar to one for Brandon Koschel? Chances of their release are low, but this activism can rally support and drive attention.”

 

A petition? I don’t understand what a petition is. Yeah, I’m not in the petition business because it doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. There’s a petition to deport me to New Zealand with a hundred thousand signatures, and yet here I am in Melbourne, Australia.

 

So look, the way we get Joel out of prison is either he’s released because the Supreme Court has a sense of the law and will enforce the law and the law says that he should be released from prison. And the Supreme Court follow through with that because the magistrates certainly don’t uphold the law. They’re activists. They’re political activists that do what the politicians tell them to do. That’s the only way to get him out of prison. Or we wait for the infinity amount of time he’s got to be in prison.

 

But yeah, sorry, a petition is not going to do anything. It’ll help raise awareness and that’s really the purpose of petitions. But no, I’m not in that business:

 

“Thank you for your sacrifices and bravery. God bless!”

 

Yep, thank you. A lot of comments. A lot of comments. Fanny Schrute says:

 

“Jesus was Italian.”

 

I think that’s the way to go. Someone gives me $100 for the cause:

 

“No need for acknowledgment.”

 

Thanks, mate. Celine’s got another one. Something about KGV, Shakespearean old English language. Stone Mountain:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women versus infidelity in men? And are our highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

Oh, that actually brings me to what I was meant to talk about the manosphere and stuff and we just end up talking about Christianity. Yes. That actually brings me to the second half of the stream, and we’ve been going for like two and a half hours. It’s crazy! This is madness, guys!

 

Yes, yes. Look, let me get a glass of milk. Let me get a glass of milk. And I have all these thoughts that I’m gonna put down. Because there’s just been so much chatter about the manosphere and looks maxing and Louis Thoreau’s recent thing. And I made a little post. Obviously most of you have probably already read my post, just explaining, the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read]. These people that are trying to embarrass the manosphere, which is quite easy, clearly. These people are not morally triumphant. These people are equally as bad, if not worse than the manosphere. And don’t get blindsided by this and fall into some trap where you’re going to take moral, what’s it called? Not legalisms, like lectures. Don’t take moral lectures from these freaks! These people are easily as bad, if not worse than the manosphere people. The manosphere people, a lot of them are not good people. I want to make it clear this next segment is not in defense of the manosphere. I’m not saying that. I’ll explain how you should accurately interpret why this phenomenon exists and how it needs to transmute into something much better. I’ll be back. I’ll just close this little thingy. Two minutes.

 

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DJTriumph
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18 hours ago
the James Mason podcast was great
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FLmetalhead
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Where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Jaymeo1
12 hours ago
Link ?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
11 hours ago
Where is it?
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baileyspunts
13 hours ago
Man i love when Sewell streams. White pill every time
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LachlanMD
21 hours ago
L foids
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RoseRock444
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19 hours ago
Nah. W foids
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Jomaha22
20 hours ago
Every time I see that text “manosphere” I cringe. Where did this analogy came from? Ayn Rand male equivalent?
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
im guessing its the “every single time” crowd
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christophawilkins
16 hours ago
hail
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
great to see another talk mate
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squatmech
18 hours ago
There never anything wrong with the volume wtf is wrong with these people it’s like if you get kicked out of hundred bars but with low volume…
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eclipseNF
14 hours ago
What’s the 5 hour stream where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
9 hours ago
Thanks a lot

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
whats gonna get too us 1st, terminator or mad max?
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CrazyRecluse
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Mad Max. These fuel shortages are serious & AI cannot become conscious – it is built from outside-in, life evolves and self-builds from inside-out.

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
ive never heard of any abbos trying to claiming other abbo land that was taken in their tribal warfare, but the land whites took on the other hand will always be theirs??? and dna shows the have only been here for about 5000 years, coming from india and they were not the 1st people in australia, the originals were eaten by them.
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TRUTH1488
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Where can I find that james mason podcast
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Tax_Cow
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Our boomer parents have been hooked on the TV since childhood and they’ve been soaking up jewish propaganda for so long that they aren’t capable of independent thought. Despite whatever their friends and family say, what the TV says is the bottom line. Unwitting agents of our destruction, professing to be enlightened because they watch the talking heads on TV every night.
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Tom, im glad you still give Abos a chunk of land as their own country. African americans & native americans are similar. Thats the best way. I like wat you are doing but im softer on nons. I feel that at this point we may have to give all nons a chunk of western nations, as their own nation. Set cameras up and make documentaries on how they make a clean 1st world society to a 3rd world shithole. Juxtapose it with our first world living. This way we will document in 4D why we will never live with them again. We would play multiple weekly reality TV shows akin ‘Running Man’ & ‘Hunger Games’. This would change our culture. Then we will make museums to store these films and all the injustices we suffered with/from them. Especially the lil caps. Then maybe in the future we might decide to conquer them & retake the land, and put them where we want, maybe isntreal? Or put these brown masses in africa, or somewhere low on resources, since they cant mine them anyway. Tom, I also think 90%+ whyte is a good target. Because the good ones that help us have a reason to. But once we have control we can create policies to reduce their breeding over time: a white centred society; they will admire us or leave; we will be re-morale-ized; etc. If they dont want to accept it, they can always leave. Caramel island is an alternate choice for them too.
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birdhouse456
15 hours ago
The problem with “where is the aboriginal land” is that their concept of it completely different to ours. We look at different metrics. They can’t just pick up and move their culture because it’s linked to place. If they don’t want to give that up they will be motivated to go to war regardless. Or, they’ll just be squeezed out and fade away, because once they are away from their territory the culture doesn’t function. Now we have a hybrid that succeeds at neither way. Maybe there can be agreement with some tribes but others will disappear completely. it’s similar to the clans of the Scottish Highlands. The culture survives, but it’s not what it was.

BossLurker
9 hours ago
Parasites and retards

BossLurker
9 hours ago
The whole “in the past they weren’t truly conservative they were only going off inertia” is actually an extremely good point

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BossLurker
8 hours ago
Around 59:27

leibekohne
5 hours ago
Tom you have some criticism from USA NS bit-chute or odysee. The abos solution is good. I will give them a bare-bush land without any infrastructure, also they have to create own if needed financial system with own currency. This is about purity and recuperation of race thus Australia + has to be 100% white otherwise there will be no progress.Those idiots want to convert abos and save theirs lives but had no problem with murdering 35.000 white Boers woman and children. Cake destroyed Egypt Greek Roman empires by usury and by miscegenation. 1000 year of Romans were destroyed by 100 years of Christianity=Judaism 2.0= children blood drinking sacrificing cannibalism. Germany were destroyed in WW2 by another stupid and manipulated white men who should know better. White international unity.

CrazyRecluse
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56 minutes ago
Tom, I emotionally agree to boot out all leftists, or white antiwhites. But something for you to consider: Richard Spencer says that whites can build because we have all levels of people Elites, managerial class & working class. Dr Ed Dutton “white race functions like a bee hive”. So we might need to select the better ones and put in breeding policies to get them to their 15% balance. Because nearly all managerial class are leftists.

eclipseNF
14 hours ago
More and more blackpilled every single day
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
life is struggle mate, learn to laugh in the face of these demons and keep the sprits of our ancestors lovingly in your heart. heil victory
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trvkvlt
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Thomas Sewell is my rabbi
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drshreddie
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you need a better background, the baby blue with the books isnt working. How about a more masculine color with a NSDAP banner? I know this seems trivial but perception is a big deal and your message is important.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Okay, we are live. It is the 5th of October, 2025. Week off for Blair this week. He’s had a lot on, but it’s all good because we got Jacob back on the show. Often requested, the acting leader of White Australia, Jacob Hersant. How are you doing this evening?

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m going well. Just suffering because of the change of daylight savings. We lost an hour. So I’m just sad, just sad the Germans Instituted that during the First World War. Apparently a lot of people have car accidents when it like changes over. And I don’t know, it’s like an interesting argument, like either way, whether or not having more light daylight or having more people die, like, what’s like, more worthy? What do you think, Joel?

 

Joel Davis: I personally don’t really give a fuck! I really don’t give a fuck!

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s not something you’re gonna die on a hill for.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: You’re not gonna put that on the party policies.

 

Joel Davis: No.

 

Jacob Hersant: Repeal daylight savings. That’s our main issue.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is like the main problem with like a lot of people with political opinions. I had this thought this week that everyone who’s. Who cares about politics and is like actively involved in politics, but their motivation isn’t racism, that it’s like something else, something wrong with them. Like, why would you actually care about politics otherwise? Like, it’s a whole bunch of debates over minutia, like whether we should have daylight savings or not, or like what tax brackets should have to pay, what percentage and so on. It’s just like instant snooze fest for me. Like, yeah, it’s all pretty gay and, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Like talking about bean collections and things like that. There was this. I can’t remember his name, but it was a British nationalist who was criticising a radical group in Britain and he’s saying real politics is talking about bin collection. And the issues that affect everyday Britons. And he just completely missed the point that politics is really about like the main issues like identity and national survival and all these kind of things. He also had like a really funny accent and everyone just used to meme him, but I think he’s just disappeared now. I haven’t seen any of his videos for almost a decade now.

 

Joel Davis: This is a problem that Gerard Rennick has. Gerard Rennick has a lot of good policies, like particularly his economic policies because he has pretty nationalist economic policies. And his policy on immigration, even though he is cucked on race, his policy on immigration is actually better than any of the other parties I Believe. It was like a hundred thousand maximum. And the policy of like One Nation is Net Zero. And Net Zero is still like a quarter of a million people in a year because that’s how many people leave on average, emigrate away from Australia to other countries. Most of them are White. Most of the people coming in are non-White. And so even if you have Net Zero immigration, it’s still a demographic issue.

 

But I think for Rennick it was like, cut it to a hundred thousand, like gross, which would be like net negative migration. Obviously he doesn’t support limiting the intake to just Western countries or something, which would make it a much better policy.

 

But anyway, my point is this. Gerard Rennick is extremely boring. He just wants to talk about all of these minutia policies that a bunch of like Boomers find interesting on Facebook or something, but nothing that will actually grab headlines, nothing that will really motivate strong emotions, strong feelings in the people.

 

And that’s why, even though he has a lot of good policies, I don’t think his party is going to have a great deal of success. And it’s incredibly uninspiring. I had someone report to me on what went down his recent. Because he’s setting up branches around the country for his new party and they had a meeting in Western Sydney last week. Someone sent me a photo of the meeting and it was like 90% Boomers, like White hair Boomers just sitting there.

 

And apparently Rennick said to the people:

 

“We’re going to hand out flyers and this and that, but don’t say anything controversial. Don’t say anything that’ll get you into the newspapers. Don’t say anything that will get you called the Nazi by the media.”

 

And that’s his mindset. It’s like, how far are you going to get with that mindset, Gerard? Where, like, no one’s talking about you and no one cares about you, and no one has very strong feelings about what you have to say. I don’t think it’s going to get very far. I think you’re going to. I think obviously the way that we approach politics, I mean, you can get a lot further when you have ideas outside of the mainstream through controversy.

 

Like if you look at the rise of Pauline Hanson or the rise of Donald Trump or these kind of populist politicians that have actually accumulated a decent amount of support, even though we have criticisms of them due to their flaws, the reason they got that base of support was by being attacked by the media constantly, by being controversial and it’s a common trope. Same with Nigel Farage in Britain or all these kind of populist Right-wing politicians that have any kind of success. Again, these people are all Zionist cucks, but at the same time they understand that controversy is currency in, particularly on the political Right in the contemporary era.

 

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And I think the few the future of Rightwing politics is going to depend on who can channel controversy to their best benefit as opposed to those who run away from it. Similar with March for Australia. March for Australia didn’t shy away from controversy and that’s why it got so big and so hyped and had such a good attendance because it invited controversy, it got attacked by the media, it got attacked by the politicians and that just inspired people who hate the media and hate the politicians to come out and march where they otherwise might not have even heard of jacob Hersant: Definitely! So what did you want to talk about tonight? What’s on the agenda?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I thought the reason why I called the stream “Ain’t no party like the White Australia Party”, which is a LeBron James reference for those who know. But the reason why I called it that was because I thought it’s been a slow news week and we should talk probably about like the state of the movement, you know what the plan is over the next few months because obviously it was a big winter, we had a lot going on, particularly in August, now Tom’s in prison and so on.

 

And I think maybe the people would be interested in where we’re going with things. Obviously we’re working towards setting up this political party that’s like our main focus. And there’s not a rush because there isn’t, keep saying this, there’s no significant election until the end of next year, which is the Victorian state election. So there’s no rush. But at the same time we want to get this thing set up and launch.

 

So that’s obviously a lot of the focus that we have. So I thought we could talk about that, like what the plan is so that you know this. The people that are following along at home can know what the plan is and buy into it and get where we’re going.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, right now we’re focusing on just building up the amount of supporters that we have, specifically political supporters, because we need 1, 500 across the country to establish a federal party. Unfortunately, some of the work on the political party has been delayed because there’s just been a lot of reorganisation we’ve had to do with these charges that have been brought against a bunch of our members in Victoria in relation to the Camp Sovereignty incident where anti-fascists were attacking Australian patriots that were leaving the March for Australia.

 

So there was a scuffle there. A bunch of our people have been charged with violent disorder, given non-Association bail conditions and two of our members are in prison now, obviously one being Thomas national leader and another member which I won’t name. Hopefully we can get them out soon. We have a, we are organising another bail hearing for Tom and we’ve organised a bail hearing for the other member.

 

So hopefully there will be some good news in regard to that coming soon. So there hasn’t been much of an update other than so much.

 

There’s been so many people signing up to become political supporters in the wake of not only our winter nationals August 8, but also the March for Australia, August 31.

 

So there’s been a lot of people signing up. We haven’t yet reached that 1500 threshold but we’re majority of the way there and it couldn’t hurt to have a few more over that number. Obviously we’ll probably just allow it to go up further so that we have, we’re comfortably above that number when we actually establish the party.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So obviously we’ve got these, what we’re doing, excuse me, we’re doing regular events that are going to be opened up to our supporters. So that should be a good incentive people to go to White Australia.org. Sign up as a political supporter and then you can get invited to our seminars. When we put on nationals you can get invited to our national events which happen twice a year and you can be vetted to attend these types of events. You don’t have to join the Organisation as like a uniformed activist member. You can just, basically come to events like that it’s good for women, for maybe for old people, whatever. People that have sensitive professions, they feel like the commitment to being an activist is a bit much for them at this point in their life. You can still be somewhat involved, you can still come down and meet everyone and you can attend those types of events.

 

We’re gonna keep putting them on a regular basis and there’ll be speeches and so on. So get involved because yeah, go and sign up now by Australia.org and our seminars that are happening in about two weeks time. You can potentially come along to those.

 

But yeah, anyway, the, yeah, I think we should talk about a bit about the party itself because the way that I see it at this point, the way that the kind of political system is shifting. You know, we’ve seen the polling from the election was back in like what, April to now. So like in half a year, One Nation has like doubled its vote according to the polls. It’s now polling at like 13%. It’s polling above the Greens. Now the third biggest party in the country, the Liberals, are down to like 27%. So One Nation is almost at half the Liberal vote. And that’s not including all the other Right-wing parties. Like Trumpet of Patriots, I think was polling at 2% and the other parties make up an extra smaller percentage.

 

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So the non-Liberal Party Right-wing vote is now crossed over the point where it’s like over half of the Liberal Party vote. And each time they do a poll, it seems like that number keeps closing and closing. The issues that we care about seem to be getting a lot of traction in political discourse. All the polling shows that people are increasingly dissatisfied with mass immigration and things like that.

 

Obviously the March for Australia was a huge bellwether for where public sentiment is on that issue. But the issue that we have in Australia, I think with distinction to Western Europe and even America, is that it’s not really happening for young voters.

 

If you look at the polling by age demographic Zoomers, Millennials, they’re not really going to the Right in the way that they are in America. Look at the polling in America, Zoomers are actually like more Right-wing than Boomers. Like Zoomers are the most Right-wing generation, which is like crazy! If you said that 10 years ago, no one would believe you because it used to be the complete inverse trend. Similar trends as well in Europe, where the Right-wing populist party is very popular with young voters. Conservative parties, not so much. But Right-wing populist parties, you know, are.

 

And what we see in Australia, because One Nation is kind of, it’s kind of like a Boomer party. It’s Boomer coded, it’s run by Boomers. Its leaders are old. It’s been around for decades. It was kind of at its zenith in the late 90s when it first launched. It doesn’t feel particularly fresh or new or dynamic. It doesn’t really appeal to young voters and they don’t know how to campaign to young voters or whatever. It just seems to be Boomers that are pissed off about immigration jumping ship to One Nation from Liberals or something.

 

And so there’s a massive gap in the market for a kind of youth focused nationalism where no one is really meeting that market right now! And I don’t really see anyone else in Australian politics that could meet that market except us. We are literally young. We’re in those, that age demographic as people than pretty much all of us.

 

And obviously our messaging and our promotion, it’s very like focused upon like on younger people, younger generations, people under the age of say like 35. You know, the way that we kind of put out our content and the way that it spreads online and so on, it appeals more to that kind of spectrum. So we think we have a golden opportunity where there’s like this market opportunity in Australian politics where no one is really competently. There isn’t like some Zionist populist Right party like they have been in Britain, or a lot of Western European countries that really appeals to that demographic in the same way. But the trends are all going in that direction where that demographic, something is going to have to emerge ultimately to cater to them.

 

And so we’ve got a golden opportunity I think to launch our party and actually have a untapped potential to draw voters from. Not that we can win an election off the back of just like young White voters, they’re outnumbered.

 

But the way that Senate works or Upper House elections work in the States, if you can get that 8%, Ralph Babet got elected to the Senate with 4.6% of the primary vote in Victoria, for example. You only need to get that radical fraction to come to your side and you can get people in into Parliament. So you know, there’s a lot of benefits to launching the party just in terms of like propping up our legal status within the system.

 

But I think that we have a proper chance of actually getting someone elected. And if we get just like one person elected, it’s infinitely more significant than any other party getting one person elected. Because it would be like a Nazi getting elected to Parliament. Like it’d be like international news story. It would be a really big deal, like the first Nazi elected in any English speaking country like ever!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, there are many, many benefits to the party. That’s why we’re doing it. First being the legal protections that hopefully we can be afforded by actually being a political party. A lot of the time when we go into court, Victoria police will lie through their teeth and say:

 

“This isn’t a political organisation at all! This isn’t a registered political party. It’s a criminal group. A criminal group focused on putting up stickers!”

 

Political stickers I guess. And that has been quite annoying. If we establish a political party, the police will no longer be able to lie like that. And hopefully it will put the, it will kind of put the police on notice that they can’t keep using the same tactics that they have been using against the National Socialist Network particularly anymore.

 

So that’s what we’re hoping for. Maybe it won’t actually be that circumstance. A lot of the time these supposed liberal Democrats don’t actually care about liberal democracy, don’t care about the system they profess to defend. So this is just speculation. We’ll have to see what actually happens.

 

Another benefit is I, like you said I think we can get people elected. And when it comes to the long term strategy of the party, I think that eventually if enough energy goes into it and enough, enough people actually vote for it, we can get a substantial amount of people elected. Not to obviously take power, take a majority government, but just to have a bargaining chip, more or less being able to.

 

Actually, these other parties will have to come to us if they want to pass legislation that requires the other party, the major party in this, in this, in most cases it will be Liberal and Labor. If they want to pass legislation, they may need some of our politicians to vote for something.

 

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So when you gain that power, you can use it to great effect. Especially if you are, if you have the right strategy and you have the right mindset where obviously if we were involved in politics, we’re not just going to be like any other minor party. We’re going to be causing all kinds of chaos. So we’ll have to see.

 

Like I remain, what I would say is I remain kind of cautiously optimistic about it. Like, it’s not something that I’m wedded to, something that I’m like, we have to do this, otherwise you know, everything’s gonna go to hell! There’s all these other projects that we’re working on as well, whether it be the street activism or community building and just the meta-political struggle we’re doing as well. So people need to understand that the political party isn’t the main thing. It’s not the only thing that we’re doing. Because a lot of people, when they think of politics, they think of party politics and they think that’s the only thing that matters. That is the whole game. Like if it is political, then it’s necessarily party politics.

 

But we have a completely different understanding of politics. We see it as broader and see our movement and what we have to do to further that movement as being broader than only party politics.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s true. But at the same time, I think the advantage of the political party, one of the main advantages is that it provides a way for the Australian public to buy into the movement en masse. Where if you’re just doing street rallies in uniform, it’s a pretty big step for a lot of people to go from just thinking that the video was cool to joining us and becoming one of us. But if you have a political party, it’s well, they could give you a vote, they could consider you as someone that they would vote for and that moves them into a position where now they’re supporting a National Socialist party and then that then maybe a larger percentage of them will then want to take the next step and the next step and the next step of involvement from there. So it provides, it’s good to provide a certain soft on ramp to the movement where it becomes accessible where people can see you as a viable alternative. Otherwise they get this view of like, well those guys in black, they’re pretty cool! But those ideas are obviously too extreme for the political system. And so I’m just going to have to vote for One Nation or something. If we give them an actual option to rally behind and they can go fuck one nation. All these Boomer cuck Sydney parties, I want the real deal, full spectrum.

 

So also, this is also part of why I think Liberal death., …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, it’s important to give every like as many means to support the movement as possible. Whether it be donating or becoming a member or giving a vote or all these kind of things. So once we get a political party up, it’s just another way that people can support us. And yeah, that is very important. That’s a good point to bring up.

 

And another thing is if we get people elected, well then we can have, we can be given salaries to be full-time political soldiers, more or less. And all these establishment parties are, they’re kind of bolstered by these salaries that are being given out by the taxpayer. But we are pursuing our political mission without any taxpayer money! If we were given access to that through having our politicians elected and having staffers work with those politicians, imagine how much more work that we could do. Like these people are just taking the money of the taxpayer and wasting it on race treason and, or in the case of these smaller Right-wing parties, they’re just wasting it on Boomer nonsense that’s never, never going to change anything. Never going to save our race. We, despite having no money, are doing much more than they are. Imagine if the system was giving us some money or the taxpayer, rather. It’s not really the system, but the taxpayer.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean we are starting to get some resources behind us and that will continue. That’s the other thing as well with the political party people are going to be more inclined to join as members. They’re gonna back it. And so we can then create better propaganda as a movement because we’ll have like a party machine churning it out in general, it’s just like a, the obvious organisational structure or political movement.

 

And then also it’s like the legitimacy advantage as well. If you have someone in Parliament, it’s just like natural people would start taking it more seriously, like, as like a viable. It’s a viable thing. And if we’re in the Parliament and we’re in the black jackets or something in Parliament, everyone else is in a suit and we’re calling out the politicians, it’s going to be quite the spectacle! We’ll turn the Parliament into the usher, basically and the kind of stunts that we could pull in there and so on.

 

You also have Parliamentary privilege if you can Fed post in Parliament, like no legal charges can be laid against you can say anything. We could try and organise diplomatic visas for like, controversial people. There’s lots of things we could do. So it opens up a lot of interesting doors that we could exploit to our advantage.

 

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But also we can give a voice to White Australians in the halls of power, which currently there is none. There is no voice for our people. And that’s obviously the main purpose of it is like the whole idea supposedly of representative democracy is you have politicians that represent you. Well, if you’re a nationalist, there are no politicians that represent you know, so you’re kind of picking over crumbs and coping about how this cuked politician kind of said something that’s kind of okay. You want someone to go in there and hold these politicians to account, call them out and tell it like it is. That’s supposed, you know, speak truth to power. That’s supposed to be the whole point of the representative democratic system or whatever. So we want to actually give the Australian people real democracy.

 

And if they don’t let us register the party, then we can show the Australian people that they don’t have a real democracy. They need to be, they need to see that made explicit to them because we give the system an option, either let us participate or destroy your own legitimacy to block us from participating. And it’s a choice. And I personally think we will be able to participate because of how robust Australian constitutional law is in regards to political parties. They tried to ban the Communist party in the 1950s, it failed. They went to a referendum to try and change the Constitution to enable them to ban the Communist Party. That referendum failed at the height of the Cold War. Very conservative political process at that time still failed. So it’s pretty airtight. They can’t block us. There have been registered National Socialist political parties in Australian history, you know, back in the 70s and so on.

 

So this precedent, it is not legally possible for them to block us without like an egregious unconstitutional action. And if they try to go to a referendum to try and ban us, the Australian people, I believe will vote that they can’t ban us. And it will just be another huge win!

 

So we’re going to put the system in a position where it’s kind of going to have to tolerate us if it doesn’t want to nuke itself and its own legitimacy. So we do that a lot. But this, I think in this instance it’s a much bigger, higher stakes proposition to the system where just like persecuting us over a political demonstration or something, it is a cost on legitimacy. But it isn’t as intense banning a political party. It’s a way bigger cost on its legitimacy.

 

So I don’t think they will do that. I think they’ll allow us to register, allow us to participate and I think we’ll surprise a lot of people with how successful we are. It’s going to be a lot of fun designing these campaigns. They’re going to be dynamic, they’re going to be interesting working on the policies at the moment. We’re going to have policies that are really powerful, that are conversation starters.

 

And again, talking about the meta-politics of what we’re doing, it’s going to have an effect on the rest of the political system. If we start gaining traction and having success, the other Right-wing parties are going to start moving to the Right. It’s going to shift the entire structure of the system. And that’s also why I’ve been promoting Total Liberal death. Because if we can lower the amount of votes going to the Liberal Party and direct them into the constellation of other rhyming parties, it’ll be a situation where the Right cannot govern as one party and it will fought before still like work as a coalition, a kind of uneasy coalition. And in that chaos, we can get a seat at the table and try and use that seat at the table to try and push for the most radical policies possible.

 

Jacob Hersant: I agree. Yeah, I agree. I don’t have much to add other than that. Yeah, I think we’ve covered the topic pretty well.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Do you want to, do you want to get into. You put out a post today saying we will not be attending October 19, March for Australia. Do you want to discuss that?

 

We will not be attending. But I want to preface it by saying that we have a good relationship with the organisers. We wish the march well. We hope that’s success. But in terms of our priorities as an organisation, we don’t think it makes sense for us to go again this time. We want to save our grill for Australia Day.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Got the reasons why in the post why we decided against it for this one.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes. So I made a statement saying that we’re not going to be showing up and I explained the reasons why because otherwise there was going to be speculation. This is, I guess it’s a tactical disagreement between us and March for Australia. It’s not a disagreement in ideals or we don’t oppose the organisation or anything like that. We like March for Australia and we’re happy to work with them again.

 

It’s just that in this circumstance, as you said, it doesn’t make sense for our organisation to participate again. We have a lot of things on that we have to do. We, well, we got to organise. We’ve got a lot of events going on in October as well. And when we attend these events, we bear a lot of the brunt of the consequences of those events. And we’re happy to do that when it’s a circumstance where we agree with it. We rally all the time, we do activism all the time and we face the consequences all the time.

 

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But when it comes to, we’re selective with our activism, we really want it to be something novel, a message that we want put out there or even just one that if there hasn’t been a rally in a while, then I could understand doing a rally similar like that, similar to what they’re doing. But the issue is we don’t really see there as being a compelling reason, compelling reason to mobilise and I guess, you know, face the consequences, which. Yeah, I think we wouldn’t face any consequences anywhere other than Melbourne, where there’s obviously these violent Antifa. Even then I think it may be a circumstance where these Antifa are already beaten because they didn’t show up to that other cuck rally that was in September, the one that was organised in opposition to March for Australia. None of the Antifa showed up to that even though and you may say okay, the reason they didn’t show up to that was because they understood these were the cucked Right and they weren’t the Black Shirts or the March for Australia ethno-nationalists. But I don’t think Leftists make that distinction. I think anyone to the right of them is a neo-Nazi whether they like it or not.

 

So I was very surprised that that march wasn’t met with any violence and I think the reason was because they got the absolute piss beaten out of them last time maybe the reason why they didn’t do anything. So it may be that circumstances again. So there could be a situation where we wouldn’t even bear any consequences for this. Maybe the Left are just too scared to use violence against the marchers and let’s hope that’s the case because we don’t want anyone getting attacked for their, for their political views on our side. So yeah but it makes sense for us not to, not to, not to go to this one.

 

But as I said in the post we will be working with them again in the future particularly for Australia Day.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So in Melbourne I think Matt Trihey is going to be running today from the National Workers alliance who’s a solid guy, solid ethno-nationalist. A friend of ours and he’s alleged that he’s a ex-professional MMA fighter. Solid, solid ideologically has been for a long time. Doesn’t cuck on anything, not even the jewish question. Refuses to have people on the stage given speeches that they don’t meet a standard of being a true nationalist. So you know I think all power to him, support to him. I think Blair has worked with him a lot in the past so I’m sure Blair is going to help him out on this one. So we wish the march every success in Melbourne. In particular because it’s going to be our friends still doing the bit on the day and it’s an opportunity for because there was a lot of controversy about us being there.

 

The reason why we intervened in all August 31st as Sewell explained beforehand was because we wanted to make sure that Zionists and other you know, influence groups didn’t come in and take over the march and make it about them. And so we intervened because us just saying that we’re going to go pushes out a lot of those types. And also we kind of elbowed them, helped elbow them out the way behind the scenes. And we supported the organisers because none of the organisers are members of our organisation, but we know them to be actual nationalists.

 

And so even though maybe they don’t do the Hitler thing, whatever their private views are on the subject, we know that they are genuine nationalists and they care about our people when they’re doing it for the right reasons. So that’s why we supported them. And there was a lot of disputes between different in the nature of an event like that, between different elements that will:

 

“Keep the Nazis away and so on!”

 

But the actual organisers maintained a solid stance and said we’re welcome:

 

“They’re nationalists. They deserve to be here. They’re against immigration too.”

 

And so it’s adorable they didn’t cuck. They kept the messaging solid. The event was a huge success. And so they deserve respect for doing that because there’s a lot of people that do tuck under that kind of pressure. I think we added a lot of value to the event, like by going because we enhanced the controversy around the event.

 

But at the same time people said, oh well if the Nazis go, it makes Antifa attack everyone and it makes ruins the event. So now they have an opportunity to do it without us. And we can see like what, how that goes. You know, maybe us not being there all the people that said us not being there is going to make the event better and so on. Well, now you get to have your event. And everyone that said that we’re feds, that we just came down to the event to try and hijack it in order to give the media a certain narrative or de-legitimize the event. Well, here you go. Not even going to go to this one. So we’re not feds.

 

But yeah, the reality would be like if we rocked up in Melbourne again and we tend to do things nationally as a group, like if we’re going to do it somewhere, we do it everywhere. You know, we try to operate as a national group. We’re going to mobilise again in Melbourne, it’s probably going to mean potentially a whole bunch more assault charges.

 

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Whereas, you know, we, you know, we’ve got to save our grill. Like Australia Day is going to be huge. I know much for Australia want to go again on Australia Day. I think that’s going to be massive because we’ve had these Invasion Day communist Aboriginal garbage rallies taken over our cities year after year on Australia Day for a while now with no official Australia Day celebration. And it can’t go on. We have to take Australia Day. We have to take our cities back on Australia Day. Australia Day has to be a celebration of our national identity and it can’t just be openly like disrespected and counter-protested and like they’re trying to basically make Australian pride illegal, get rid of all official celebrations of it to de-legitimize the fact that it’s our country, obviously. So it’s an attack on us. It’s not just about the day, it’s about what it means.

 

So we’re all in on that. And I hope that this event is successful so that it can be a kind of amplifier to a big Australia Day rally.

 

So we ’re not saying the event is cucked and therefore we’re not supporting it or some shit like that! I hope no one gets it twisted. We’re not trying to counter signal the event. It’s just our organisational priorities are like when we go, when the average person goes to a rally like this, the chances of them getting arrested or something like is much lower than if we go obviously. So we have to calculate that in our decision making.

 

And then also for the average person, they don’t really do anything politically. Like going to a March for Australia is like the one thing they’ve done this year that’s political organising. Whereas for us we’re trying to put on seminars, we’re organising a series of other events within our organisation and we’re trying to build up to launching our political party. And we’ve got our own brand. We don’t want to just become the March for Australia Black Shirts. We want to keep doing NSN rallies.

 

So yeah, I think it makes sense for all those reasons why we’re not going, but we wish them well. And it’ll be interesting, I guess, to see how it goes. Again. Sydney, they’re trying to take, they’re gonna take Hyde Park this time, which is like usually full of pro-Palestine protesters every weekend. So it’d be nice for it to be full of Australian flags instead.

 

But yeah. Is there much anything else you want to add on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, we covered it.

 

Joel Davis: But yeah, I think for the broader. This is a question I wanted to ask you about or get your thoughts on. And I presume you would have a similar view, but maybe you’d have a slightly different view. So it could be interesting.

 

There’s some debate that because obviously you get like conservatives who will say like horseshoe theory type stuff, oh, National Socialism and communism is actually very similar and like they’re two strains of the same virus and they’re all the same. And which is obviously insane! Right. But they say this kind of thing then you’ll get people on our side who will say:

 

“Oh, National Socialism isn’t Left-wing or Right-wing. And so we shouldn’t identify as being part of the Right-wing, we shouldn’t identify as the far-Right, we should identify as a Third Position.”

 

And obviously there’s some logic to that position.

 

But at the same time I think that that’s the incorrect way of going about things for two reasons. One, when National Socialism and fascism was first invented, what kind of denominator the political spectrum was quite different. It was a lot more about like climate, class distinctions than it is today. Today the Right and the Left aren’t really about what class you side with or your views on the Monarchy or the aristocracy or these types of things. It’s a lot more frankly like whether you oppose or have some sympathy to nationalism directionally.

 

And I think that should be encouraged. I think we should encourage the redefinition because Left and Right, as is just a relative determination like through history, it’s meant different things. Originally it meant do you support completely getting rid of the Monarchy and the aristocracy or you’re a conservative that supports retaining a certain amount of aristocratic privilege, or a constitutional monarchy or something like that.

 

And then also do you support the Church having like a prominent role in the state or not or whatever. And the Left were like get rid of it all, equalise everything. Then obviously the Left became a lot more about socialism, a lot more rather than just that liberal opposition to old world monarchism. And then it became kind of socialism versus like bourgeois liberalism which became the Right. And it became like your position on capitalism, your position on wage distribution or income distribution and things like that, redistribution, etc.

 

But I think increasingly that’s not the case anymore. I think a lot of people identify with the political Right-wing, but actually have so-called Left-wing or socialist views on economic policies, but they just support the Right-wing because they’re anti-immigration or they’re anti-trans or you know, that type of thing. They support Right-wing social policies. And a lot of people on the Left. What really animates them is those issues as well. Like they, you’ll get Leftists who you know, left us agree with billionaires that immigration is good for example. They don’t seem to really care about the White working class, seem to only care about brown people and black people or whatever and like their interests. There’s a lot of people on the Left that just want all the CEOs to become brown and black and then they support capitalism as long as it’s no longer like you know, propping up the White race or something in their perception.

 

So I think race is increasingly the main dividing issue on Left and Right and we should encourage this. We should like think, amplify it and say yes, us as like the pure position on this issue on the far-Right and the most ultra left are the most anti-White and everyone else kind of plots within that distinction. And we should try overcode the Left-Right dichotomy with our framework, our racialised framework and position ourselves on the far-Right.

 

Would you agree with that as like a orientation or would you side with the Third Positionist position?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not wedded to either really. I see validity in both kind of ways of framing it. Obviously we have some similarities with socialism being on the Left and then in terms of our values in nationalism and traditionalism, that’s more associated with the Right-wing.

 

So when you use that framework to talk about those similarities we have with the movement saying that we’re nationalists but we’re also socialists, sometimes going from that Third Position lens is useful when you’re trying to convince someone or persuade someone to become a National Socialist.

 

But at the same time I also like, I like being called far-Right man. I think it sounds good. I like being the furthest to the Right being the most pure position and I like the fact that when you’re right about something, you’re correct about something. We are far-Right, we are far correct, we are the most correct position and everything else is a watering down of our position. And the further you go, you go to the far-Left and that is, it’s good to have that contrast because I don’t think anyone’s going to be convinced by horseshoe theory. Because when you look at Black Shirts, we look like, we do look like the far-Right. That’s what you look at the far-Right. That’s what you would expect to see someone with a good haircut. Clean shaven, wearing all black, just proper like old school kind of look.

 

And then you look at the far-Left, it’s the complete opposite of that, where they’re disheveled, transgender freaks, spiteful mutants and all of that kind of stuff. So people, they look at the difference between our two groups, like let’s say the Victorian Socialists on one hand and then the National Social Network, despite the fact that you have the word socialist in it, look at the two groups and then try to say that they’re the same thing. It’s insanity! And that’s why it’s confined to midwits like Drew Pavlou, who’s, who used this type of argumentation because it’s not convincing. It’s so different from how things actually are. So I like both, I like calling myself far-Right, but when it comes to saying:

 

“Hey, actually we have some agreements with, I guess what you would call the historical left.”

 

Because most of the, most of the Left-Right now aren’t very socialistic when it comes to like the Labor Party and things like that. So I like being able to talk about that, but I also like being able to identify as far-Right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that’s fair enough.

 

But obviously Left and Right is a relativistic determination.

 

So originally classical liberals the original liberals were actually on the Left during that time, like I’m talking about the French Revolution or something.

 

Whereas like the so-called conservatives of today, they identify as liberals they are ideological liberals. The average member of the Liberal Party that is apparently a conservative or Liberal Party voter doesn’t support absolute monarchy or aristocratic peerage or like any of these, like the, like the clergy having like representation in the Senate or something like there would never support, or maybe a few of them would, but pretty much none of them would support things like that or even to conceive of them, which is what the traditional Right supported against the Leftists who were like, no, it should be one vote once per citizen, shouldn’t matter what social class you come from, whatever. So these things change over time. So we could have agreements with the historical Left, but so do conservatives. Conservatives literally are the historical Left, like in every respect.

 

And then when it comes to what the current left gets offended by, if I go up to a Leftist and say:

 

“Hey, I might have some agreement with you on, I don’t know, environmentalism, or I might have some agreement with you on like defending, you know, state funded healthcare systems or whatever.”

 

Now I’m going to be like:

 

“Oh, well, you know, it’s, just you being a racist, it’s not that big of a deal. Like we agree on most things. Let’s like try and work together to those ends. Let’s try and get all these different environmentalist and socialist policies passed and we could just leave the race discussion for later.”

 

They’re never going to do that! It’s far more likely that people on the Right-wing who are already anti-immigration and are already nationalists, but maybe they biased, what’s more of a free market system. They’re more likely to say:

 

“Oh well we agree on all of this stuff, but we don’t necessarily agree on economic policy, but we could still kind of work together.”

 

That’s way more likely that that’s going to happen. So like, obviously, therefore we’re on the Right because what fundamentally animates each side morally is those more fundamental social, like racial issues. And no, we’re not like communists when it comes to economics either. National Socialists defended private property. They defended small businesses. If you read about what the election campaigns were like in Germany in the late 1920s, early 1930s, the other Right-wing parties of that time, a lot of them tried to criticise the National Socialists for having like Bolshevik economic policies or whatever. Like that was actually an argument that they used.

 

And in those days, like it wasn’t like the NSDAP was considered controversial because it was racist or anti-semitic. Like half the parties were racist. Almost all the parties are racist and anti-semitic in Germany in the late 1920s, and early 1930s. So it was a completely different era.

 

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But in the kind of debates they would have, the National Socialists would defend themselves saying:

 

“No, we support defending private property, we support defending agriculture. We support defending, you know, small businesses. We don’t support this kind of Americanised capitalism where these mega corporations take over all of these industries and remove your experience of being a worker, or a consumer completely alienated from your local context and make you a cog in this international machine run by jewish finance. We don’t support that. We support localism, we support mom and pop stores.”

 

And these are the types of things that conservatives care about apparently, like the party of small business. That’s what Liberals present themselves as, even though they’re really the party of big business. So that doesn’t sound like the same thing as a communist. You know, communists talk about how:

 

“We’ve got to like execute landlords and small business, big business doesn’t matter, they’re all capitalist scum and they all need to hang!”

 

You know, that’s completely different. National Socialism is not just like racist communism. It is like clearly distinct.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well that’s why you have the term National Bolshevism. Yeah, that describes what these people are describing and it’s a more or less a meme ideology now. Nobody really believes in it or is actually fighting for it. So yeah, it’s not an issue.

 

But I remember Jonathan Bowden to move back to the previous point. Jonathan Bowden, he defined the Right and the Left based on whether or not you support inequality or equality. But I think, which I think describes more or less the what you’re talking about as well.

 

But I think it’s easier for people to understand when it’s framed around nationalism and then I guess race treason and national treason on the other end. That’s probably easier for people to understand.

 

But that is more or less the defining Right versus Left-wing nowadays because it’s such a crucial and visceral issue that is defining this whole age like whether or not nationalism is going to win or you know, national treason. We need like a better word for that. I guess just race treason. Race treason. National treason. I guess anti-Whiteism. What do we put on the other end? What’s the Left defined by?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think it’s just defined by like White genocide basically. You’re either you’re non-White and actively supporting the theft of Western nations from the White race or you’re a race traitor White person who actively supports it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, White survival on one end and then White genocide on the other? That really is what is animating all of these political groups. But we also got to understand that what we call Right-wing parties today are more or less Left-wing parties. Like the people that vote for them tend to be Right-wing.

 

But then they’re betrayed over and over again by the politicians who they want to represent them. They don’t represent them at all! They take their votes, they take their money and they’re happy and then they Institute a similar agenda as the rest of the Left. The rest of the race traitors and traitors to Australia.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, this is part of why I supported in my article I wrote before the election “Reconceptualizing Liberal Party as a Left-wing party”. Because on policy it is a Left-wing party. Like name one Right-wing policy that Liberals have. You can’t, because there isn’t one. The Liberals were the party that were responsible for taking away our guns. They were the party responsible for passing gay marriage. They were the party responsible for institutionalizing multiculturalism as government policy under Fraser in the late 70s, Liberal Party openly declared, like Scott Morrison, ex-leader, ex-prime minister, Liberal Party said:

 

“We are the party that ended the White Australia Policy!”

 

He’s right. They were. The Liberal Party time and time again has, basically facilitated the agenda of the Left.

 

So why is it conceived of as a Right-wing party? It just shouldn’t. We should just like move the centre of Australian politics from one side of the Liberal Party to the other side. I think that’s a really easy distinction to make and one that needs to happen. That’s why again, I support Total Liberal Death.

 

One thing that we should be able to agree upon with the Right, even if you think we’re a little extreme for you is we’re going to destroy the Liberal Party because it is this traitorous entity that just sucks all the energy out of the general Right-wing and subordinates it to the interests of the establishment which is fundamentally defined by basically Left-wing social policies straight up and down the ticket. Like the Liberal Party supports transgenderism.

 

I remember there was a time I was still living in Sydney, but I was coming down to visit the boys in Melbourne a lot a few years ago and I made a trip down to Melbourne for some other reason. I think it was because the Stop Immigration rally was happening and some other things and I was like:

 

“Well, if I’m going to be in Melbourne, there was like all these Drag Queen Story Hours that were happening. Might as well just try and like attack these Drag Queen Story Hours.”

 

And so I started creating campaigns to like mobilise people to attack certain Drag Queen Story Hours. And I think Sewell was like:

 

“Yeah, let’s like mobilise like the NSN, the counter-protest one of them.”

 

But we didn’t have to counter-protest any of them because we just kept getting them shut down. As soon as like we started like attacking it and getting people to like call up and you know, complain and saying we’re going to do a kind of protest rally at the front of the child care centre or library or wherever it was being held. That would just pull it! The police would advise them to pull it and, or that they would buckle under the pressure and they’d pull it.

 

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And so we got so many of these Drag Queen Story Hours shut down across Melbourne that it frustrated the Premier. I think at the time Dan Andrews was still premier. I think it was before he stepped down. That he actually held the Drag Queen Story Hour inside Parliament with all the media just to like, because it was the one place where we couldn’t get it shut down by threatening to counter-protest it.

 

And then at the time, John Pudo [sp] was the leader of the Victorian Liberal Party and he came out into the media, he was so upset about this Drag Queen Story Hour being held in Parliament because he wasn’t invited! Because he wasn’t invited. He said:

 

“How dare they not invite me. No one supports transgenderism more than Liberal Party. We love transgenderism even more than the Labor Party. And this is an outrage! They would try and portray us as an anti-trans, anti-LGBT party. We love gay people, we love trans people and so on.”

 

So that’s the Liberal Party, right? Just like let that sink in for a second. This is your so-called Right-wing party. Like it’s a joke!

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s been interesting seeing the shills come out and try to mobilise and what’s the word? Recuperate some Right-wing support for the Liberal Party with this Andrew Hastie character. So I saw a video of him where he was, I guess, lamenting the fact that Australia’s car industry has died, which the Liberals did nothing to save anyway. But he was lamenting that with like a antique car. And he had a flashy video for it.

 

And this is what is being kind of dangled before the Right-wing to try and recuperate some support for the Liberal Party. And I’ve seen that you’ve been coming out against it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we’ve been talking about how Andrew Hastie is a faggot for the last two weeks in a row, on The Joel and Blair Show. So all viewers probably heard the talking points.

 

But yeah, I saw Andrew Hastie announced that he was stepping down from the front bench stepping or the shadow front bench because of the Liberal Party’s pro-immigration policies.

 

So I guess it’s kind of interesting that he’s tipped to probably make a leadership challenge next year. From what I heard from my sources inside the Liberal Party, he actually has the numbers. And considering the way things are going, the Liberals keep bleeding votes in the polls to One Nation and everything is kind of shifting to the Right in general discourse and public dissatisfaction. And we’re going to keep probably we’re going to keep definitely pouring kerosene on the fire of anti-immigration sentiment.

 

And so that trend will probably continue. I could see him being successful next year and Liberal Party trying to rebrand as you know, a more of an anti-immigration party in order to win votes in 2028 because otherwise, … It’s not so much that they’re losing votes to the Labor Party at this point or to the Teals, they’re losing votes to One Nation and other Right-wing parties and that’s existential for Liberal Party. If they lose the base they could become a micro party. They could never be a major party again, which is absolutely fantastic! So I support Sussan Ley. Hail Sussan Ley! She’s doing an incredible job, Agent Susan, destroying the Liberal Party. But unfortunately she’s doing too good of a job maybe. And so we accelerated too hard or something there and it could unravel.

 

But it’s very important that Andrew Hastie and this if he does get the leadership. He’s not believed! Because at the end of the day the Liberal Party is funded by corporate and industrial lobbyists that benefit from mass immigration. And they all, you know what he said was we’re going to, we should cut immigration to 2019 pre-covered levels which is still hundreds of thousands a year, net half a million a year gross. Over half a million people immigrated to Australia in 2019, I think it was like 200,000 roughly net over half a million gross.

 

And as I said earlier like quarter of a million plus Australians emigrate away from Australia every year, move to other countries. Most of them are White and most people coming in are not White. So 500,000 mostly not Whites coming in, 300,000 mostly Whites leaving. You do that for you know, the next 20 years, White people become a minority in this country. That’s what Andrew Hastie is offering you. So how is that worth supporting or rallying behind?

 

Also what it shows is that the only way it does occur, Andrew Hayesi does take power in the Liberal Party and they do pivot on their messaging. But what it shows is taking support away from the Liberal Party is the only way to make the Liberal Party become more Right-wing. If you give it all of its support, it just tries to win Left-wing votes at the centre, take away the support. Then it tries to actually listen to its own voters because that now it needs to. But at that point you’ve already got other parties that are better than the Liberal Party and other options that are better than the Liberal Party that are getting your support. So why would you take it back to the Liberal Party, just keep it over there? You know, so it’s like a, the incentive structure if you’re a Right-wing to support Liberal Party, isn’t there? The less you support it, the better it will get. The more you support it, the worse it will get.

 

So why support it?

 

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Jacob Hersant: That is a good point. Yeah, I think this Andrew Hastie, it’s always not genuine when it comes to the, all this posturing and then they’re just going to continue immigration and it’s bizarre! It’s bizarre because you think they would pull the brake on it a little bit. Like what are the housing prices like in Sydney now? Somebody like showed it to me a few days ago and I couldn’t believe my eyes how expensive it is. And now they’re bringing in what’s the new legislation that brought in where it’s, I think you only have to have 5% now to get a, of the down payment to get a mortgage for a house. It’s just insanity! Like they’re just pumping up the usury even more. They’re pumping up the problems not only in terms of immigration and demand but then also economically. Like I don’t even understand what is happening. Maybe you’re going to have to explain it to me, Joel.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah, like the average house price in Sydney I think is over $2 million now, which is the average, I think the average income is about $100,000 a year.

 

So that’s 20 years average salary to buy a home. Obviously you can’t spend all your salary on just on mortgage repayments and then you’ve got interest on top of that. So basically if you’re taking out a 5% deposit loan as an like permanent debt slavery basically like just mathematically as like an adult.

 

Jacob Hersant: Could you even pay it off though? Even if you’re doing it somewhat, …

 

Joel Davis: I don’t think the bank would give it to you. I don’t think the bank would actually approve you for a loan at that, at those, on those. If you’re only earning $100,000 a year and you tried to buy a 2 million dollar house and you only had whatever 5% of that is like 100 grand deposit, I don’t think you could approve that. But like if they try to like force them to approve it through legislation. Like obviously that’s insanity!

 

And then also this whole system is just dependent upon. Then once you buy into the housing bubble and you get mortgaged up to the shit house in order to buy into it, well then now you’re basically kind of like leverage on it, continuing to expand because adding equity to your home is the only way that that becomes like financially viable. Like so then you’re not going to want to then support like cutting house prices in half by mass deporting 8 million non-Whites. Because that fucks you over. Which is why one of our keynote policies is going to be nationalizing the mortgage lending market and engaging in mass debt forgiveness. You’re going to have to write off a bunch of this debt in order to make it work, otherwise because we have to bring house prices down in order for housing to be affordable.

 

But we also have to like provide a way out for the people that got a mortgage to buy it. Like you know, they saved up, they worked hard, they got a massive mortgage for a massively overpriced property. We need to provide them with a relief as well. Like in order to like free them from debt slavery so that we can rebuild the middle class. Like it’s the only way to do it.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Is there anything else you want to talk about or should we go on to the Superchats?

 

Joel Davis: There isn’t that many Superchats because everyone’s being a cheap cunt tonight.

 

So we should probably, I don’t know pick one more subject.

 

Jacob Hersant: Talking about housing prices and it made them think about they’re being more sober with their spending.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Yeah. What else is there to discuss? I guess another subject we could discuss. I guess is the subject of women in the movement. Seen a lot of like a lot more women in the movement lately. A lot more women online supporting policy. There was the poll that came out recently that showed Australian women actually have more negative attitudes towards immigration than Australian men. Of course, according to one poll. Obviously it’s one poll, but I thought that was interesting.

 

Obviously there’s the statistic that I think in the 1932 election the NSDAP actually got more votes from women than it got from men. So you know, we’ve said a lot of misogynistic things on the show over the years and I don’t take any of it back. But at the same time that’s interesting to note and obviously we’re not going to have women in the NSN anytime soon or ever! But that’s partly because of we just don’t. We don’t think it’s safe for women to be engaged in that kind of activity. But we’re putting on these seminars or whatever. There is a way for women to be involved and to support the party, that aspect of the movement, be a political supporter, attend those kinds of events. So we are giving women something they can do, some way to get involved other than just like, breeding.

 

So we’re throwing you a bone, throwing you a bone! But do you have thoughts on that? Did you see that poll? Would you have thoughts on that poll? Do you think it’s accurate?

 

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Jacob Hersant: I’m not sure if it’s accurate. I can’t really. I don’t have any information that I’m privy to that can confirm whether it’s real or false. But it is interesting. That’s the same parallel that I made or the same connection I made was to the fact that the NSDAP got more votes from women than it did men. And it’s an interesting fact. I don’t think I have any definitive position on whether or not it’s a good thing to have more men voting for your party or more women voting for your party. It’s something that I’d have to sit down and really think about for quite a while. I’m kind of embarrassed that I haven’t thought about it a little bit more. But I guess this is an impetus to actually do that.

 

But as as Joel was saying you can become involved in our movement and White Australia that is not in the National Socialist Network because the National Socialist Network is focused on street activism. And just go watch the August 31st footage if you want to see why women aren’t involved in the National Socialist Network because there was some brutality happening on that day. So I’m sure women will be happy, to be spared that. And if you aren’t, okay, that’s pretty cool! But anyway we’re not gonna. We’re not gonna subject you to that nonetheless.

 

So you can get involved. Yeah, we’re doing things like seminar and where all the partners of members of the National Socialist Network and broader White Australia. All of the partners, the women meet up. A lot of them have children, so they’ll meet up and have play dates and those kind of things.

 

So there’s a lot that women can do if they are inclined to get involved and if you have a partner as well that isn’t involved. You should encourage them to get involved with one of the things that we’re doing at the very least.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. If you’re a woman, learn how to sew. Or maybe you already know how to sew, even better. So are some Australian flags, some nice because like the ones you buy in the shop that aren’t actually made, they’re just like Chinese, like plastic garbage! You can like make us a nice cotton Australian flag or several make us some Union Jacks. You can make us whatever. Or even better message one of us, then we’ll give you like, we’ll give you like stuff to make. There’s a lot, there’s lots of jobs for the grandmas that are good at sewing out there for a second example that they could do behind the scenes. Some of the women do help out. Some of the partners have helped out with that kind of thing in the past.

 

So there’s like women can be involved in the community aspect and they can do jobs like that, but just don’t want them on the front lines. I think that’s pretty reasonable.

 

But as for this poll, so this poll, the question was:

 

“Do you think immigration to Australia is generally positive or generally negative for the country?”

 

And men in this poll had about a thousand respondents, which is kind of normal, statistically normal for these kinds of things. Men were 46% positive, 39% negative, 14% unsure. Women were only 37% positive. They were 43% negative and, 20% unsure.

 

So that was interesting. And I was thinking about why would that be the case? Let’s just say that it’s at accurate. So we were disputing the accuracy, but I think it’s still like worth considering. Well, if it is accurate, why and polling the science people like say really low IQ about how polling is junk and how can you infer things about general populations if you only have a thousand or two thousand people in a study? But no, polling is actually extremely accurate. It’s been shown to be extremely accurate many times before in where polling can pretty accurately predict, you know, election outcomes with only a very small degree of like, not like perfect, like 100% accuracy, but only with, very small amount of discrepancy. So polling is science with empirical veracity.

 

But anyway, the point is that why would this be the case? I thought about a few things. One, I think what I observed, I don’t have polling on this, but what I observed just from like being out in public in Australia and somebody who travels around to different cities in Australia quite often and has a lot of varied experiences. Is that in Australia, mixed race couples, I’d say 8 out of 10 of them is a White man with a non-White woman at least and very small. A much smaller percentage of it is a White woman with a non-White man. Also when you go to like bougie White flight areas in like Sydney and Melbourne, I see a lot more women there than men. And all those women seem single.

 

So it seems like White women are more inclined to White flighting than White men and they’re less inclined, at least in Australia to dating non-Whites than the other way around. There’s a lot of White guys with Asian GFs and you’re seeing them with Indian GFs these days, which is like, I mean, what the fuck are you doing? But we’re seeing this as an epidemic. And you could say this is partly women’s fault for being, having being too hypergamous and having too high expectations. And so White men are like forced onto the yellow or brown GF plantation because they’re easier to pick up than a White woman. But at the same time, whatever the case may be, that’s a dynamic that I’ve observed.

 

And so if White guys are all banging gooks, they’re more inclined to say immigration is good. I’ve noticed a kind of dynamic where figures on the Australian Right like Drew Pavlou or John Ruddick, when they got rid of their Asian missus, they started pivoting to a far more anti-immigration stance almost immediately afterwards.

 

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And I think there’s a correlation there. I think that there’s something to that. We’ve seen this many times with in like in general in the movement where you know, someone gets a non-White girlfriend and change their political opinions and vice versa because it makes sense.

 

Because if you’re going to breed with a non-White person, obviously everything changes in terms of what’s in your interest. When you become a full on like race traitor where you invest your genes in another race, then why would you care about White nationalism anymore? Now you’re invested in multi-racial society. So I thought maybe that could be one of the reasons why. Do you think that could be accurate?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I think women tend to race mix far less than men. And yeah, you’re right about that. Insofar as the most common race mixing couple that you’ll ever see is White man, Asian woman, at least in Australia, like you’ll see that quite frequently.

 

And I think it is for the reasons that you stated. And I want to hear your gradations of like, because you were saying I get it, why the Asian misses these pathetic White men are getting with the Asian women. But then you were far more disappointed about the fact that they’re getting with Indian women as well. [chuckling] So now we’re gonna have to hear like your [chuckling] hierarchy of like race fixing. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think it’s just objective. I mean, Asian women look like bugs. But like, obviously Indian women are next level disgusting! Like, Indians are the most putrid, unattractive race. They smell bad. They’re hairy as fuck! Asians don’t smell good either. But you have to be really close to them to realise that they smell bad. Whereas Indians, it’s a much more offensive odor. And you know.

 

Jacob Hersant: But where do blacks fit into there though?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I think having sex with the black woman is at least as gay as having sex with an Asian man! I would say that’s a kind of a different dimension. When I see a White man with a black woman, I think that maybe they’re like homosexual or they’re on the spectrum of homosexuality to a certain extent.

 

This is why I think as well, black men, like all niggers are gay. Like when blacks go to jail, they start butt raping each other. And like if you look at the data from America the gayest race per capita is blacks, according to the data.

 

So I think this is because black men obviously are attracted to black women, like, unlike anyone else seemingly, except for like a small group of freaks! And because they’re like biologically attuned to being attracted to black women, they kind of have to be almost bisexual because black women are so masculine. So their kind of sensitivity to the sexual sensitivity or whatever to homosexuality has to be reduced. So, yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: Where do Red Indians fit? Are Red Indians equivalent of Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Well, it’s I don’t really know too many, like pure red Indians, like, usually like people that are native to the Americas are like mixed with White at this point to varying degrees. So.

 

Jacob Hersant: So like is Hispanic and like Arabic, because Arabic, a lot of Levantine people also have White DNA. Do you think like, the Hispanic and the Levantine are like a tier above the Asians?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean the Whiter ones. The Whiter ones, I would say so.

 

But then some of them are like, they have more of the putrid non-White DNA mixed into the point that it makes it like, really gross!

 

Obviously there’s Asian tiers as well. I think the Japanese are more attractive than, like, jungle Asians from, like, Vietnam or whatever, objectively.

 

So I think there’s tiers. Like, all race mixing is wrong, but, like, when you think about it, like, from the perspective of the inner world of the person who is sexually giving themselves over to that experience, like, it has to be a scale of degradation. Like I think that.

 

Jacob Hersant: Such a funny topic.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think. So yeah, I think it’s a funny topic. Send in some Superchats on that subject if you want some elaboration.

 

Jacob Hersant: Some people are going to be like, [chuckling] is it all right that I’m doing this? [chuckling] Oh, no! Like, don’t send in that Superchat. We’re just gonna tell you. No. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course it’s not all right if you have to ask if it’s all right and it’s not. But yeah I don’t know. Like, to me, it’s not like:

 

“Oh, man, I’m stuck having sex with White women. I really deeply I want to have a Japanese waifu, but because I’m loyal to Adolf Hitler, I’m stuck on the White implantation!”

 

I think White women are objectively, like, far more attractive, I think, in every way. Like, personally, like, obviously at their peak. If you said:

 

“This is the hottest Japanese girl in all of Japan and here’s like, the ugliest, fattest, most disgusting White girl.”

 

Obviously, like, … But luckily, I don’t have to make that choice. I can just be with a hot White chick. And that’s what you should all aspire to.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it seems to be when people say they have a preference for another race, the only one that you really hear about is yellow fever, like, having a preference for Asian women rather than White women. And you’ll hear this from, like, race traitors saying:

 

“I get what you’re saying about nationalism and all that, but I got yellow fever, mate!”

 

You [chuckling] never hear anyone saying they’re an oil driller or they’re obsessed with Levantine women or anything like that it’s only yellow.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. In Australia, I think a lot of Americans are into the Latinas.

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, yeah.

 

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Joel Davis: But we just don’t have too many of them in Australia, so it’s kind of like, not as much of a thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: They’re a similar race, though. Like the Red Indians. They’re almost like hapas [half and half], the Latinos are like hapas between Asians and Whites.

 

Joel Davis: It’s a scale that like some Latinos are like they’re like 3/4 plus White and then some of them are like brown as fuck k. And so there’s a spectrum. Like obviously like Nick Fuentes and like the average Mexican don’t look the same. Right? So there’s a massive spectrum in like how much mixed breeding with Whites occurred.

 

Obviously the Whiter it is, the more I can see why you’d be attracted to it because it comes closer to like White features that I find attractive. But that itself is a refutation in my opinion. But yeah, I think most of the time it’s a discount. Like they will say, people that have like Asian wives that try to justify it to me, they say:

 

“Oh, your White wife or girlfriend doesn’t respect you like my Asian wife, she’s cooking me fried rice and cleaning and she doesn’t like talk back and all this kind of shit!”

 

And it’s like obviously you don’t know how you can’t handle a White woman. You don’t know how to like make a White woman submit. So now like you just, you need a discount basically.

 

So it’s just like in a certain sense the trash taking itself out. I get less offended when I see a nerdy dysgenic White guy with an Asian misus because, I don’t support it. It’s still a problem. But I think:

 

“Well those genes, didn’t fail [pass] the test. So now I guess we don’t really need him on the race.”

 

Like if you’re a disgusting low IQ freak, do we need you reproducing with a White woman? Do we need you on the race anymore? Less. So but if it’s like a high stock looking, you know, solid White dude, it’s like, surely you could get a White girlfriend. Like what are you doing?

 

Jacob Hersant: I get crazy because they’re reducing a relationship to just having a domestic slave, more or less. It’s not about building a future, having children with this person, like the healthiest children you can have. The children that are going to be the most successful in the world. It’s just about having a domestic slave, which is crazy to me! But it just shows you the priorities that these race traitors have.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean just like watch your Sterling Cooper videos, Get skills and get a White domestic slave if that’s your thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: But I like how we started talking about, by talking about the party and big ambitions and now it’s, we’re talking about the gradations of race mixing! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: It’s a quality, it’s quality content. Like I’ve not like, I think the viewers enjoy it. It’s like fun but also it is actually serious.

 

So in your day to day life. Like you encountered this often and you have to have these conversations. Like I have conversations often with people who will say I’ve got the yellow fever or their race mixes. And I try to say something because I think:

 

“Well, it’s better I say something now while they’re just dating or they’re just fooling around with non-White women than no one’s saying anything and then all of a sudden they get married and have three hapa kids and now like it’s over. And now that that guy and his blood is lost from our nation forever!”

 

Like so it’s always good to say something. It’s always good to encourage others to say something because it’s dignity. It’s like as if you’re going to want your own flesh and blood not to be of your own people. Then what’s the point? Like what’s the point of putting in effort as a father? What’s the point of like are you gonna go to your grave like that? Like your bloodline is doomed? Like what are you, what are you doing?

 

Like, it’s such a baseline issue and it’s gonna, the amount of race mixing that is occurring, it’s going to become increasingly a bigger and bigger issue. We’re going to have all these resentful hapas, you know, ascending through institutions into positions of power and prominence over the next generation. A lot of them are going to be motivated by an anti-White animus. A lot of them are going to be motivated by their resentful mutant status. And it’s going to be a massive problem. So you know, it needs to be discussed, needs to be called out. Miscegenation was illegal too. Mixed race marriages were illegal in Australia in the past. They should be illegal.

 

If you want to marry an Asian, move to whatever her country of origin is and go and join her tribe over there. You know, that’s really what you want. But yeah. Should we get into the Superchats? What do you think?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, let’s do it!

 

[1:22:40]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. All right. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Lucky I work in real Estate!”

 

I guess, talking about how house prices are up, blah, blah, blah. Macula Torren said:

 

“Would you have Lucas Gage on the show again? He was stabbed in the back by the Brown Alliance. He’s writing his book Our Struggle, where he introduces neo-feudalism to solve America’s race issue.”

 

I’ve spoken to Lucas multiple times. We’ve done Twitter Spaces, we’ve done a few streams after January 26 for Australia Day. We had a big rally action. A lot happened. And he interviewed me afterwards. And again, Lucas is my friend. Sometimes we don’t see fully eye to eye on a lot of issues. But I do think that he does want to what is best for our race, for our people.

 

And even though I don’t agree with him on all takes because I think he tries too hard to win over the base non-Whites and develop some kind of one struggle philosophy, I do think that he’s earnest. I do think he’s just trying to do what he thinks will work to advance our people. I don’t think his motivations are like wrong.

 

So why wouldn’t I be friendly with someone like that? It’s okay to not agree 100% on all issues with people in our movement if their heart’s in the right place. They’re trying to advance movement, they’re trying to advance our people and they conduct themselves in a friendly manner. Like, why wouldn’t you still be friendly?

 

So if you wanted to do a stream, whether it would be discussing ideas we agree or disagree upon, I would always be down to do it.

 

But yeah, in terms of like, are you. This is gonna be something for you to sign up on Jacob, this whole allying with non-Whites thing. It was discussed after the March for Australia because there was some, mostly Americans. There’s like a wing of the American far-Right, the American nationals nationalist movement, where they’re so fixated upon anti-semitism, they’re so fixated upon anti-zionism that it’s almost like they put being pro-Palestine above being pro-White. Obviously we’re anti-Israel, obviously we’re anti-semitic, we’re anti-jew! But like, if I could deport every single jew to Israel tomorrow, I would do it without even thinking, of course I would do that. It feels like for some of these people, they wouldn’t even do that because it would be, it would facilitate the genocide of the Palestinians or something.

 

And it’s like, what? Like I’m not in politics because I give a shit about Palestinians. In politics because I give a shit about our race. You know, I don’t have anything particularly against the Palestinians either. I’m neutral on Palestine, but I’m anti-Israel because of what Israel is doing to our people.

 

And it’s like they can’t compute this. They think because Tom mentioned the anti-Israel, the pro-Palestine, anti-March for Australia protesters in his speech because we got into fights against people with Palestinian flags, that it means we’re allying with Israel. And like this, you’re either with Palestine or you’re with Israel and there’s no other position you could have. And I find this to be a ridiculous position. Do you want to weigh in on that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. Well, if they’re so worried about us calling out Palestine, then these Palestinians need to police themselves and not attack our activists when we’re trying to do a March for Australia. If you’re going to position yourself against the Australian nationalist march, then obviously we’re going to oppose you in that’s a core principle. That’s what we’re fighting for.

 

So if they come out against us, we’re going to meet them. That’s the reality. Like, we’re going to oppose them in their opposing of us.

 

So it’s a bit ridiculous! What’s the alternative? Are we supposed to, anytime someone’s carrying a Palestine flag, are we allowed to just be beaten by them? And we can’t fight back because that would be playing into the hands of the jews? Obviously, if anyone’s playing into the hands of the jews, it’s these activists.

 

And I’m not saying all Palestinians are doing it. Obviously not all Palestinians are doing it, but these people that are having the Palestine flag and then coming out against Australian nationalism are the ones that are playing into the hands of the jews, not us, because they’re the ones that are instigating this conflict. Because otherwise, if it was not opposed to us and it was just against Israel and for Palestine, then we would support it because we don’t like Israel and we see Israel as being a bigger threat to Australian nationalism than Palestinian nationalism and Palestinian sovereignty. We have no problem with Palestine at all! In fact, we wish them well because they are fighting against a common enemy.

 

And in terms of, well, all we can do really is express solidarity with the Palestinians in their country. There’s not really that much more that we can do. We don’t have massive resources that we can just donate to Palestine. All of the money is going to the struggle for our nation. Just as the Palestinians are going to spend all their money on the liberation of their country. We’re focused on the liberation of our race and our country rather than foreigners. We’re focused on our race. Like we’re nationalists.

 

But a lot of these people that call themselves nationalists that are focused on Palestine particularly have become de-centered. They’ve lost what defines them largely which is nationalism. So they’re focused on foreigners instead of their own position and what is actually their own interest and what they should be fighting for.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And I think when it comes to the pro-Palestine movement, a lot of people in the movement are not Palestinian. They’re just like assorted Muslims of various types. There’s like Islamic solidarity. And these Muslim peoples are not our friends. They are one of the most hostile groups of immigrants to Australians. They weren’t just responsible for rape gangs in Britain was a way large scale, but that kind of shit happened here as well. That was one of the main fuels for the Cronulla riots* and so on and so this idea that we can ally with Muslims is ridiculous! Either Muslims live in their own countries on the other side of the world where they’re of no use to us, or they live in our countries in which case they’re hostile invaders and we want them to get the fuck out of our country.

 

[* The 2005 “Cronulla Riots” were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebanese) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

[1:29:51]

 

So it’s like there’s no Muslim alliance that’s viable. They either have nothing to offer us or they’re just diametrically opposed to our interests.

 

And then the other major faction of the pro-Palestinian movement is communists who also hate us for all the obvious reasons. And so we’re not going to go and support the pro-Palestine movement. We stay away from it. We avoid it. I think Melbourne has had more pro-Palestine rallies in it than any other city in the world or something since October 7th, it has like the world record for pro-Palestine rallies. We have not interrupted a single one. It was only them that interrupted us. So we obviously stay away from them and let them do their thing because we’re not going to be foot soldiers for the jews. But yeah, this is, I think it’s a particularly like American online movement affliction.

 

And then a lot of people who amplify it are actually brown. They go into nationalist communities online but they have an anonymous avatar. No one can see their face. And then they pretend like they’re on our side just because they. But they’re just advancing their own interests. They then go and tell White nationalists they should stop being so hateful towards, towards other races and they should be focused on supporting Palestine and things like that it’s subversive! All of these people are falling for literal subversion.

 

There’s also an issue where a lot of the pro-Palestine rhetoric is anti-settler colonial. Like I’ve heard these people, the same arguments they use against Israel could be used against America or Australia like and us. So we oppose Israel not because it is conducting a genocide or whatever. We oppose Israel as White nationalists because Israel is the enemy of the White race! Because jews are the enemy of the White race and they are a parasitic influence on our countries. And if these people, this is the final kicker. I think. If you said there’s nothing that we can do for them. Well, there is one thing that we can do for them. We can take control of the Right-wing of Zionists, put in actual nationalists who are anti-jew in charge of the Right us instead of Zionists which currently control the institutional Right-wing.

 

How are we going to do that? Are we going to do that by waving Palestine flags? No, because if you look at the polling in Australia for example, Islam is by far the most hated religion in Australia. The Islamic migrant community is pretty much one of, if not the most hated groups in the country by the general population, particularly by Right-wing Australians. Patriotic Australians hate Muslims, period. There was polling done on this some time ago showed that the majority of Australians want a total ban on Islamic immigration. And then particularly with Right-wing voters, like a super majority of Right-wing voters supported that policy.

 

So we have to be strong on that issue. Otherwise if you have Zionists come forward on the Right like Zionist conservatives, like the Tommy Robinsons of this world and they are tough on Islam or they create the perception that they are and they’re the patriots against Islam and we are like soft on Islam. We’re waving Palestinian flags and talking about allying with Muslims. It’s just going to confuse a whole lot of patriotic Australians that we should be rallying behind us and our movement which is trying to take over the Right-wing from the Zionists.

 

So like if you’re pro-Palestine you should understand that even like from a tactical perspective it actually doesn’t make sense for us to directly support you because it would actually ruin our ability to take the Right-wing off the Zionists. And you guys already have control of the Left-wing. The Left-wing is already largely supporting you. So that’s the final move.

 

And then once that happens, then Israel is cut off from Western support because Left and Right together will oppose Israel for different reasons and then Israel’s fucked!

 

So that’s actually in your tactical interest, but also it’s in our tactical interest to deport jews to Israel and it’s in our interest to deport Muslims back to the Middle East. We want all of you gone! From your tactical point of view, you should stay out of our way and we’ll stay out of your way. But also we have fundamentally different interests. So the alliance is not viable.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, in that regard it is a zero sum game where we want to deport all the jews to Israel and the Palestinians want to deport all the jews to our countries! And we don’t want the jews. So you guys, the Middle East is going to have to take the jews or we’re going to have to, … Maybe we can come up with a compromise where we send them all to Madagascar? I’ve heard of that plan. And maybe we’ll have to move some of the black, … I think actually the Madagascans are like a different ethnic group from regular Africans, like on the continent.

 

So maybe we can’t send them there, I don’t know.

 

Joel Davis: Madagascar as a metaphor for another place.

 

Jacob Hersant: You think it’s a metaphor for a different place? Yeah, I’m not going to talk about that because I’m a sensible wholesome chungus nationalist. I couldn’t even, I can’t believe you would suggest such a thing.

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no, of course not!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna be, I’m gonna be concerned, trolling you for like 30 minutes now. Be like, how could you say such a thing?

 

[1:35:13]

 

Joel Davis: No, no, I think, I mean realistically, if you tell people to get the out of your country, you don’t actually you kind of can’t force them to go to a particular country because they could just leave that country and go somewhere else else. Right? So like you just better tell them to get the fuck out and then it’s on them to figure out where they’re going.

 

So if you tell jews get the fuck out of Australia and you know, Europeans are telling jews to get out of Europe and Americans are telling jews to get out of America and so on. Obviously they’re just going to go to Israel, like that’s the main place for them to go next.

 

So it is what it is. I don’t give a fuck where they go as long as they get out of our countries, like then the problem is solved. The main problem in the past has been that all western or all White countries didn’t deport jews all at once. It was like this city in Europe says get out jews, let’s move to another city and set up operations there and keep fucking with us. And they just kind of like jumped around different parts of Europe. We have the main I guess issue is you know, and if we just, if we take over Australia and you know, other Western countries still ZOGged out, I guess a lot of jews are going to end up going there because a problem.

 

But ideally they get out of Western countries period. And that’s one thing that I think we could try to control is that when they leave they go to a non-Western country. But we can’t really stop them once they’re gone from where they go from there. Like realistically. Like we will tell when we are trying to do remigrate a lot of these non-Whites, like we’re not going to allow them to remigrate to White countries. We’re going to force them to remigrate to non-White countries. Like we could send them back to India but then America could let them back in. Like we can’t stop it! So there’s only like a certain amount of control we have over that.

 

But at the end of the day we’re anti-jew because we’re pro-White. We’re not anti-jew just for the sake of it. And you know we call out the jews and we criticise the jews openly obviously, but it’s not the be all and end all like we have to have a comprehensive position.

 

But we’ll go through some of these more of these Superchats. Unpopular opinionator said:

 

“Australia needs a nationalist church. Get Professor Andrew Fraser and James Donald to oversee the doctrine. Former group to revise the BCP. Find a renegade Bishop who’s down and you’ll have something.”

 

Well look, sounds great but it’s not the job for me. I don’t think Jacob’s that interested in either. But if you guys want to do that, knock yourself out. Like I would much rather there be racist churches than anti-racist churches. Jacob, do you agree with that?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. I agree with that.

 

Joel Davis: [word unclear] said:

 

“Hi guys. How do we address the Christian question? I see many potential White nationalists cucked into Christian nationals.”

 

What a double those two Superchats together. I mean in the National Socialist Network, in White Australia, we’re not anti-Christian. If you’re a Christian, you can join the Organisation as long as you accept the fact that it’s secular, meaning that not everyone in the organisation is of a particular religious faith. As a White Australian, you are free to explore your religious views as you see fit. We don’t allow Muslims, we don’t allow Satanists, we don’t allow Judaism obviously, but we have a few prohibitions.

 

But basically like if you want to go and fucking explore Buddhism or whatever, knock yourself out. You want to be a pagan, you want to be a Christian, you don’t really have a religious view, that’s fine! The function of the organisation is to defend our race. If you agree on its principles, then you can participate. So that’s our position.

 

Obviously the problem with Christian nationalism is this idea that you can define a nation by religion rather than by what a nation is, which is its people. Obviously we disagree with that. I don’t if the country becomes 99% non-White but everyone a Christian, it’s not Australia anymore. It’s some like racial slop that I want no part in.

 

So if you think that, like there’s no reason why as a Christian you have to accept that. The analogy I would use is that like say you’re a Christian and the other people in your family aren’t Christians, does that mean that you abandon your family and you just only associate with Christians that you aren’t related to? And pretend like they’re your family now? That would be ridiculous! Like your family is your family regardless of their religion is.

 

The same thing is true with the nation. Our nation is our nation, our people is our people, regardless of what their religious views are. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“He can see his reflection in my shiny nose.”

 

Do you have anything to say on the Christian question, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well I wouldn’t come out and attack Christianity. We come out and attack people that are against ethno-nationalists. So if there are Christians that are against ethno-nationalism that then we’re attacking Christians in that way. But people that are ethno-nationalist Christians, we have no point problem with that it’s going to be a disparate group of people that call themselves Christian nationalists. And we support the Christian nationalists that are ethno-nationalists and we oppose the ones that are universalists who think that nationality can be defined by a religion. But we say that nationality is primarily defined by blood. So when we propagandize, we criticise on that basis rather than criticising people for being Christians because we have no problem with Christians who are racists.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, like Obviously we all have personal views on the subject and in the organisation those views vary. Everyone in the organisation there’s people with different religious views in the organisation.

 

So we don’t have like one official position on religion in the organisation because we allow members to have religious freedom. They become like some stateless lunatic or like a fucking Muslim or something, we draw the line there, but we’re pretty tolerant.

 

[word unclear] said:

 

“Fellow Comrade is a half caste mutt!”

 

Well, interesting. Aussie orders88 said:

 

“How much? , …”

 

I’m not going to read this. I’m not going to give him the satisfaction of this clip. Fellow Comrades said:

 

“How do we stop gay Superchats from everyone except me?”

 

I support gay Superchats because I can just not read them out but I still get your money. So aussie orders 88 said:

 

“Indians saying they are more Australian than us Anglos as they have abo blood is fucking solid. So hilarious! I like that admission by the jeet.”

 

Did you see that Jacob? There was this Indian woman who said:

 

“They have more of a right to be here than we do because they’re related to the Aboriginals as Dravidians and we aren’t.”

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I did see that.

 

But at the same time they didn’t build anything so they can go to hell! They can get out as far as we’re concerned. They only immigrated here because. Not because of the soil, not because of the mountains, not because of the sea around this continent. But they immigrated because we built a civilisation here that they want to parasitize off. That’s the reality. Everybody understands that. Everyone understands why people are moving to Australia and they’re not moving to Africa, for example. It’s because they want to be economic parasites and they want to. Well, not only economic parasites but they want to be parasites on our civilisation. They want the material comforts that come along with living amongst White people. So they can get out as far as we’re concerned.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Also it’s just embarrassing that you’re genetically related to Aboriginals. Aboriginals are literally the most unimpressive race on the face of the planet. And it doesn’t surprise me that Indians and Aboriginals are related because they’re both vermin that in a better place planet would not exist.

 

Jacob Hersant: Would be sent to Madagascar. Is that what you’re saying?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think. Yeah. Just we probably shouldn’t go over that. Paul Bob said:

 

“How did we stop the March for Australia movement being subverted if there is no NSN presence?”

 

Well, it’ll be an experiment. We’ll see. I mean, there’s a lot of good people involved, so we’ll see how they go. Hopefully, it’s a solid event and but if, you know, it does get subverted, obviously we’ll look into what to do about future events, trying to do more of what we did last time. But from what I’ve seen it’s a solid team.

 

Jacob Hersant: If it gets subverted, then it’s not going to surpass the previous March for Australia. And it doesn’t really matter. If it gets subverted and it’s just a pathetic rally where they’re talking about multiculturalism. Maybe they’ll put on an extra Indian on the stage. Like, it was not bad enough in Brisbane when they put an Indian on the stage. Maybe they’ll put two on the stage next time.

 

But if they do that and it becomes cucked and it becomes pathetic, then it doesn’t really matter. Like the it’s just going to be like the other rally that happened. Nobody cares about it because it’s not controversial and it’s not in opposition of the establishment’s values.

 

The only reason March for Australia mattered was because the National Socialist Network was there to enforce a message that was against the establishment, against mass immigration, actually, for the historic Australian nation, for White Australia. That’s the reason why it was significant, why it was controversial, why it drew so many people out and why it was talked about so much.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but I don’t think it’ll be, … I mean, there’s issues with the Brisbane team. Some of them have made statements that are cucked on race, but I think they got a lot of negative feedback after the last one.

 

And I think they’re trying to pivot into framing that doesn’t offend actual nationalists so much. I don’t think we’re going to have another Indian on the stage. None of them wanted to take responsibility for that they all kept, like, blaming each other and so on, so I don’t think that’ll be reproduced. So it’ll be interesting to see how it goes in Brisbane.

 

But in Sydney and Melbourne, the organisers are solid like Beck and Jesse. From what everything that they’ve said, they’re clearly both nationalists. Jesse’s speech at the Sydney March for Australia was excellent! You know, he’s obviously a nationalist also. Same thing is true about Matt Trihey in Melbourne, who’s going to be running the Melbourne March for Australia. He’s obviously a nationalist.

 

So I don’t think they’re gonna cuck in Sydney and Melbourne. And it’s the same people that were running it last time across the country. So they were pretty solid last time in their bias and their, in their kind of orientation. The messaging was pretty good what they were putting out like officially to the public.

 

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So yeah, I think it’s kind of the first one kind of said it like what it is and now it’s just kind of hopefully maintain that trajectory and then you know, we can intervene in the future if necessary as best we can to continue channeling it in the right direction if necessary. But we’ll see how they go now. They got established with the first one, it was a success and see how things go in the future.

 

But you know, again we’re gonna mobilise on Australia Day. We’re willing to take on all the risks associated for Australia Day because Australia Day is one of the most important days of the year. Only the Anzac Day is as important or more important than Australia Day. So we always march on Australia Day and we always will. Let’s see what else we got here. Blah, blah.

 

[word unclear] also said, oh no, sorry, I read that one already. Natalie said:

 

“Will White Australia criminalise race mixing?”

 

The approach that we’re going to take with policies, we are going to not have like a million policies on everything. We’re probably, we’re going to have our core policies, we’re going to put it forward and we’re going to say these are our policies. If we were elected as the government, these are the things, these are like the top 10 priorities in our opinion that need to be fixed.

 

There’s obviously more things that need to be done in general. But these are like 10 or whatever, we haven’t got the exact number. These are the core priorities policy wise and we’re just going to put all our energy as a political party on these things and then once they’re achieved, then we can look at adding the next 10 policies and we can bring them back to the people and see if they want to support us on that. But these are the 10 things we’re going to ask for your support on and try and build a support base on and you can be for it or against it.

 

So I don’t know if making laws about race mixing is worthy of being in that top 10 priority stack because you know, one of our policies is going to be mass deporting non-White.

 

So if you kind of deport all the non-Whites, there’s not going to be much race mixing happening after that point. So ideally it would be banned, it would be illegal I think in an ideal world. But it might not be the, it might not be in the initial list of priorities. Do you have a different opinion? Do you think it needs to be in the policies or?

 

Jacob Hersant: I think people understand that we’re going to criminalise race mixing because we’re going to deport all these non-Whites. I think what you said. Yeah it makes sense. Like we don’t need to say these are our policies and then like seven of them are like all about how we’re going to solve the non-White problem. Like there’s obviously going to be a lot of things. But I think the policy should just be yeah, re-migration and that’s when you say when we say we’re going to re-migrate all these people, all these people understand that there’s also going to be a lot of other things that we’re going to legislate like criminalizing miscegenation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And when we go to like say we’re in a coalition or we’re working with a coalition of Right-wing parties, like you don’t know how it would end up fleshing out. You know we’re not going to be like well our condition for being in this coalition is that you create anti-miscegenation laws or something. Like we’re obviously going to prioritize like immigration and re-migration policy as like our number one priority for or working with the other groups like make concessions to us here. Maybe we’ll make concessions to you guys on other policies we’re not going to like. So yeah it’s about priority stack. We’re going to put the policies in an order of priority so that when people vote for us it’s like you’re voting for these priorities. Like you know if we have like there’s no point having like policies on like side issues that we’re not going to be, that’s not going to be one of our main issues because you know that’s not what it’s about.

 

So we’re not going to have like 38,000 policies. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Fat gay black retards for Trump with Down Syndrome!”

 

I don’t know what he’s going on about. Liam Ford said:

 

“What is your advice to guys who have a mixed race kid and now regret it? This advice is not for me by the way. I’m just curious.”

 

Jacob, you want to take this one? What’s your advice?

 

Jacob Hersant: What to do with the mongrel spawn? Just have nothing to do with it! That’s my advice. Like I’ll never get myself in the situation. But if somehow someone. I think VicPol [Victorian police] have my DNA because of the Cathedral Rangers thing, if they somehow like transferred some of those like saliva cells into like sperm and then impregnated a non-White and I sired a child through that, through like what is it called? IVF. If that child appeared before me just randomly, then the only thing to do is to have nothing to do with it. And that’s probably the only time when I will advise someone to abandon a child. You shouldn’t abandon a child if it’s White and it’s yours. No matter how much the issues you have with like the mother or something like that, I’d say never abandon a child if it is of your blood, but if it is not of your blood, then have nothing to do with it.

 

Joel Davis: And if you’re like a total cuck who can’t abandon the kid, then what I would say is get your non-White family and move to wherever the mother is from and go join her tribe. So just basically eat it.

 

[1:52:51]

 

If you want to leave them there and come back, then Jacob’s strategy then even better. But you’re too much of a cuck. Then just stay over there. You got like a half Thai kid, go live in Thailand and just that’s the path you decided. So accept it. If you truly believe that White people should have their own countries, then you should not be in our country anymore because you’re you know, spiritually non-White now. Like you’re literally like in terms of like your bloodline. You’re now, you’ve left the tribe. So see you later!

 

Heidi Ellen said:

 

“Good to see Jacob tonight.”

 

And she threw a Roman with little O slash thing. And she said:

 

“I definitely need women involved at least in terms of political campaign and support roles. We’ll forgive Joel for his misogyny. Race.”

 

Well, there you go. See this is the thing with women. You can get away with misogyny if you earn it, you earn the rights of say misogynistic shit play by doing other things that are so awesome that you outweigh it. To make women not care that we’re misogynists.

 

Jacob Hersant: Did they give you the Misogynist Pass? You need like an actual card printed out, pass.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: And you just say:

 

“A woman gave this to me. I’m allowed to say it now. I’m allowed to say insensitive comments about women..”

 

Joel Davis: That would make me not want to do anymore. Because now, like, I’m like, now I’m like, subordinating myself to the gynocracy by like, seeking its approval. So maybe, like, there’s an argument that feminism isn’t so bad. Like, if we’re going to have all these Nazi activists, like, women are girl bossing these days, send your wife to work, let the bitch work, and then focus your time on reading Mein Kampf and doing NSN rallies and so on because they’ve got washing machines and fucking ovens and stuff now, like, being a homemaker is not that hard. Let’s be real. It’s pretty easy.

 

Jacob Hersant: It was funny when you brought it up and [chuckling] you’re like:

 

“I know I’ve said a lot of misogynist things and I apologise for absolutely nothing!”

 

Joel Davis: Oh, I support feminism now. Like you think about it like women, like, if you take like, [words unclear] work seriously, like, if they, if women truly lack, like, subjectivity in the way that men have it. Men should be free to pursue, you know, culture, art, ponder, and we can women there’s like, they just need to be told what to do anyway, so you might as well make money out of it. And so maybe feminism is a good idea. Maybe like the final misogyny red pill is like feminist accelerationism. Free men from ZOG, hard labour! And no, obviously I’m kidding! But Southern Sun 77 said:

 

“What are your thoughts on the Maltese and their devotion to the empire?”

 

I don’t really consider Maltese people White, to be honest. I think from a genetic standpoint, they’re actually less related to us than jews. So I think if you’re going to draw the line where we Keep jews, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Depends on what types of jews obviously, like, there’s different types of jews.

 

Joel Davis: Ashkenazi jews. If we draw the line where Ashkenazi jews are non-White, then we also would have to say Maltese and on non-White.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, it depends. I think there would be gradations with Maltese as well. Like there are with Sicilians and Greeks and things like that. So there would be ones that are more miscegenated with North African DNA and Levantine DNA from the history of Barbary piracy.

 

And then there would be ones that are like a little bit more White. But I don’t know, I guess you’d have to do an eye test for people that trying to join White nationalist organisations. There might be ones that are like very swarthy and they look like they’re fully North African.

 

Joel Davis: Philip Mailer said:

 

“What’s your advice on how to meet good women?”

 

Well, I’ll tell you this, good women, they should sign up as political supporters, come down to the White Australia seminars and events and you can meet a man of, who has far-Right beliefs. There’s a lot of women out there complaining they can’t find good men and so on. Well, here’s your chance. Join, join us. And there’s plenty of young bachelors at those events. And then I would say to you, sir, come down and pick up one of these fine ladies.

 

Do you have any advice, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, you just gotta go somewhere where there actually are women. You could just go out on the streets and start talking to random people. I don’t think most people are going to do that because there’s a lot of, it’s like, takes a lot of energy to be able to like go and talk to strangers. But you gotta join, you just gotta go. It could be anything. You could go into a profession that has women in it. You could go to university. There’s a lot of women there. You just need to go somewhere where there actually are women that you can start interacting with and then start, start talking to them.

 

That’s the most, [chuckling] that’s what a lot of people need to do because some people are spending too much time, especially people that are far-Right. We have interests that are male dominated so there’s not really that much opportunity to go out and find women. So I say you just the main thing is to go out and expose your. That was like the worst way to say that don’t expose yourself to women, but go and find women where they are. Yeah, [chuckling] that’s like the worst way to be say that! Don’t expose yourself to women! [chuckling]

 

[1:58:57]

 

Joel Davis: David P said:

 

“Never have I felt more proud than I was marching alongside fellow common sense patriots on the 31st. Keep up the good work, lads. Hail Sewell! Hail White Australia!”

 

Well, that’s a nice Chungus. Superchat. Aussie orders88 said:

 

“What’s your favourite song off Taylor Swift’s new album?”

 

Well, what kind of, … I’m not going to read the rest of that. What kind of question is that? RSA Liberty said:

 

“I joined late. Did you cover the NSN MFA press release? Hail Thomas Sewell!”

 

We did earlier in the show. Aussie orders 88 said:

 

“We looked up the mortgage numbers. Australian banks collect 20 billion a month in mortgage repayments. The average household would save 30k a year if mortgages were interest free.”

 

Some good, some good facts. [words unclear] said:

 

“TND. How do we avoid these national marches being taken over by the wrong crowd?”

 

We already dealt with that. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“When I think of politics, I think of mullets. When is Jacob going to grow out a mullet? It’s the right thing to do.”

 

That’s a it’s a great Superchat actually. I think it’s absolutely fantastic Superchat!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna stick to this style. This is my style and I’m not somebody that changes very quickly. So I think you’re going to be seeing me clean shaven with the short hair indefinitely.

 

Joel Davis: James UK 76 said:

 

“Hail the NSN! Love from White Vanguard!”

 

Well, I’m seeing White Vanguard getting out on the streets and doing something over in Britain which is admirable! And they stole our jackets but it looks cool so that they’re welcome to steal our jacket selection.

 

Jacob Hersant: They can take it. People are free to take whatever they want from our organising. If they want to wear the black, the Black Shirt, we support it. If you want to say “White Man Fight Back”, we support it. We want people to take up these bits of propaganda because the reason we do it is because we see value in it. So if other countries, groups, want to do that, we fully support that.

 

Joel Davis: Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Can you recommend me some women to Superchat?”

 

No, keep Superchatting me. Why do you want to give women your money?

 

Jacob Hersant: We got to get you on OnlyFans Joel. So that all the OnlyFans simps can send you money instead of these online prostitutes.

 

Joel Davis: Real! Yeah. Although I got some moves, I got some moves I think that people will appreciate. Kee five 5 said:

 

“How would you contrast NSN with what Patriot Front is doing in the US? They seem similar but less militant than you guys.”

 

I wouldn’t really say that that’s the main distinction. I think they probably have a lot of similarities in like how they are organised and how they do like street actions and stuff. I think probably the main distinction is more like the tone, like the approach to act like the kind of goals with activism and yeah like obviously like there’s a bit of an ideological distinction. They’re not National Socialists. So yeah. But I think the differences speak for themselves. I don’t really need to like explain them. If you don’t get it, then maybe just pay more attention. But obviously we’re friends with the Patriot Front guys.

 

Aussie orders 88 said:

 

“I’m reading these in a weird order.”

 

That’s correct. But trying to get through them all. BigWhite94 said:

 

“Much support. I love you lads. You give White men hope in the struggle.”

 

That’s a very nice thing to say. And Flo Bubba Noonga said:

 

“Thoughts on the British-Australian Community? Are they Zionists?”

 

I don’t think the British-Australian Community has a position on zionism. I think there’s some people in their organisation that are Zionists, but there’s also many people in their organisation who are critical of Israel and critical of jews even so there’s a bit of a spectrum. That’s what I’ve seen from the outside looking in. My general thought in the British-Australian Community is that I don’t think it’s the correct strategy for us to just start behaving like a minority, just to accept minority status and then just try and get a seat at the table of multiculturalism. I think that’s capitulation. And I don’t think it’s particularly inspiring. I don’t think it’ll work.

 

 

[See: Snitch journalism at the Sydney Morning Herald]

 

The justification that I heard given by Frank Salter for it is:

 

“Well, even if it doesn’t work, it’ll prove that multiculturalism is anti-White and anti-Anglo!”

 

It’s like, we don’t need you to prove that! Like it’s already pretty blatant. So I don’t really see the point in that, I think.

 

But fundamentally, them trying to advocate for the interests of Anglo Australians, I do support that, because I’m an Anglo Australian. I want people advocating for my interests and there are good people that are involved.

 

So I don’t have like an issue with them. But at the same time, obviously we have our own organisation where we do things differently because was if we agreed with their approach to things, we would be part of their organisation and doing it their way rather than our way.

 

So what do you think? Do you have thoughts on the British-Australian Community Jacob? I know you’ve known guys in the organisation and have known about them for some time. So you probably have, …

 

Jacob Hersant: I don’t know a lot of people in the BAC anymore. I knew more people back when it was Mark Moncrief in control of it, but now it’s, I think its Frank Salter that’s in charge. But it may be someone else.

 

Joel Davis: Harry Richardson is the president. Frank Salter seems to be kind of like a bit of a spokesperson of sorts and like the most well known public intellectual or something. But he’s not actually the president.

 

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Jacob Hersant: Yeah. I don’t agree with a lot of the branding. Like coming up with the word “Anglophobia” and things like that. I think “anti-White” has already been mainstreamed and everyone. That’s what we use.

 

There was a recent article that came out about two people that are involved in the BAC. This Leftist piece of shit journalist was trying to get them fired. But at the bottom of the article, these two people who were involved were cucking and saying:

 

“We don’t even use the word ‘White’ because we don’t want to be associated with the people who use the word White.”

 

And they were saying, …

 

Joel Davis: That wasn’t the two of them. That was just what Stephen Chavura said. It wasn’t what McInerney said.

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh yeah.

 

Joel Davis: McInerney is better, much better than Chavura. McInerney criticises jews and he’s obviously, … That’s why I cut you off! Just because I don’t, …

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m glad you cleared that up because. Yeah. But yeah, saying that kind of stuff is crazy! It’s like they’re watering down something that has already been mainstreamed. People do talk about being White. People do talk about the fact that this government is anti-White and they wanna change it? Yeah, I don’t understand it. I don’t like it. We’re gonna stick to being White Australians and we’re going to be talking about the anti-White nature of this system.

 

And the reality is we are in line with the historic Australian nation. When they came up with a policy, they called it the White Australia Policy. They didn’t call it the Anglo-Australian policy. They didn’t talk about Anglophobia or anything like. Well, they didn’t even really talk about anti-White because it wasn’t an issue back then. But they would be talking about anti-White. They would be talking about White Australians. So we continue in that tradition.

 

Joel Davis: It’s also weird, like Stephen Chavura is the guy that’s going to lecture us on how we should refer to ourselves as Anglo-Celtic rather than White. But he’s not even Anglo-Celtic. Like Chabura, that’s not a Angelo last name. That’s not a Scottish, …

 

Jacob Hersant: What ethnicity is it?

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know exactly, but you can tell by looking at him that he’s clearly not an Anglo.

 

And again, I’m not saying that he’s not White obviously, but just kind of makes it even more silly.

 

And then he also said in those comments he doesn’t like using the term “White Australia”. Number one is he’s going to be associated with people who use that term, i.e., us.

 

And number two, because for him it’s not just about race, it’s also about culture. But like, culture obviously comes from race. What are you saying? You can be culturally Anglo-Celtic without actually being of our stock? That doesn’t actually make any sense.

 

So it’s kind of like a silly position. He also started an organisation recently called Australian Sons where they said that they would welcome non-Whites in who are Christians.

 

Jacob Hersant: Hmmm, …

 

Joel Davis: So it shows that he is weak on the race question. And I don’t think the other members, … All the other members of the BAC are much better on the question. So I wouldn’t want to say that he, his personal positions are indicative of the BAC in general. I think BAC allows people like him to be involved, but there’s a spectrum in this that they allow.

 

So I don’t think it’s fair to slander the BAC as a Zionist organisation. But I think it’s fair to criticise them for tolerating zionism because I don’t think they should tolerate it. I don’t think people who defend the state of Israel can be truly trusted as advocates for our people. Because jews are very clearly a hostile group that is directly antagonistic to our interests of people.

 

 

And even in Frank Salter’s book Anglophobia, which I read, I agree with you, by the way, that I don’t think it’s a term that we should really adopt because anti-White is far more mainstream than Anglophobia. And also using terms that have phobia in it is weaker than anti. Like jews don’t call you know, Judeophobic. They use anti-semitic. That’s more like potent as a phrase.

 

Jacob Hersant: And the very issue is that these people aren’t Anglophobic. They aren’t scared of us! [chuckling] That’s why they’re doing what they’re doing! If they were scared of us, they wouldn’t even come here! They’re just anti-White. That’s why they’re being so aggressive against us.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly!

 

So it’s just like a, it’s the wrong term. They want to say anti-Anglo, I’d say that’s better than saying Anglophobic. Because a lot of these are anti-Anglo too. Like for example, like Indians are very animated by an anti-Anglo animus specifically because of their grievances about being colonised by the British Empire and so on.

 

So I’m not obviously we’re not hostile to advocacy for Anglo-Australians or something like that. Some organisation should exist to advocate for Anglo-Australian interests. But that’s the other thing as well. They say:

 

“Oh, we advocate for Anglo-Australians and everyone who had. Everyone who has assimilated into the Anglo Australian stock.”

 

For most people in the BAC, only White people can do that. So then you basically are advocating for White Australians then because that basically is everyone who’s White. Or you’re like Stephen Chavura and you kind of leave it more ambiguous because you want to be able to go on Sky News and you know, you go to a church full of Zionists that you associate with or something. So then he waters it down even further. Where it’s:

 

“Well, Anglos are a distinct ethnic group that should be maintained as a majority, but it’s more about British culture. And if like non — Whites adopt British values then they can become part of our national family.”

 

And then it’s like you’re a hop, skip and jump away from like who we basically are, like a civic nationalist at that point. Then like what? Once you water it down to that level then like what position do you even have? He seems to be a foot on both sides of the fence guy, Stephen Chavura.

 

So I don’t respect him. Pick a team!

 

[2:11:50]

 

But I will say this, that most of the people in the BAC have picked the right team. I just don’t agree with the strategy. In Frank Salter’s book Anglophobia, he criticises the jewish influence, jewish lobby. So give him credit for that. He doesn’t cuck on the jewish question. And Stephen McInerney criticises jewish influence as well. So like a lot of their public facing people do criticise jewish influence.

 

So yeah, Matthew Maculatorin said:

 

“So when Jacob goes to prison, that’s when the mullet and full beard comes, like Stephen Wells?”

 

Jacob Hersant: I think you can get haircuts in there. I don’t think you have to grow it out.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think if I go to prison I’ll shave it off. I’ll become a prison skinhead. Big White 94 said:

 

“Much support and love to you lads.”

 

Oh, I already read that one. So nice. I read it twice, I guess.

 

And I think that could be basically it. Oh, crazy recluse. Last Superchat:

 

“Lebs [Lebanese] run a lot of Australian prisons. Is that a problem that they may try to target a strong White man like Tom in there?”

 

Well, number one, Tom is isolated from the other prisoners because, not because they’re worried about him being attacked. They’ll be quite fine with him being attacked. They’re worried about him organising all the White boys in jail into a giant [chuckling] prison gang! Recruiting them to the NSN when they get out and him taking over the prisons. So they put him in very restricted conditions, solitary conditions. So he will be fine.

 

But also what I’ve heard from Tom is that when he was getting marched through the aisle of the jail and Lebos saw him from their jail cells or whatever, they were yelling out support because they saw that the NSN beat up Abby Yemeni’s bodyguards and they were throwing Romans and found that to be quite amusing! So I don’t know, maybe there’s a certain amount of respect that he has from that community.

 

So also, it’s Melbourne. Melbourne doesn’t have as many lebos as Sydney. It’s different. But yeah. I think that could be it for the show tonight. Is there anything you wanted to touch on before we, … Oh, wait, one more Superchat, Georgie L said:

 

“Thank the gods a White man.”

 

And she sent a love heart. Well, that’s very nice of you. See, on the Joel and Jacob show, we are massive respecters of women, unlike The Joel and Blair Show where we usually, … [chuckling]

 

Is there anything you want to say before the end of the stream?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, I think we covered a lot. I think it was a good show. I’m happy to come on whenever. It normally just takes a lot for me to set up things, but now that I’ve got my new Rune background, I should be able to come on more frequently.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, it’s a sick background, but yeah, it’s a good show. Good to have you on a stream where we have Blair as well. I do like the three man streams as well. Two man is cozy. Three men sometimes can be dynamic, but, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Dynamic! [chuckling] No. Thank you for having me on. Blood and honour!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Hail victory! White power! You said blood and honour so I didn’t have to. And White Australia.org! Go to White Australia.org and join. Become a political support. Or even better, come one of the men in black, become an activist. Come down, we’ll teach you how to kickbox. Or you already know how to. Even better, you can beat up some of the guys who don’t know how to kickbox yet and teach them how to kickbox. And march with us. We got plenty of activism planned and it’s going to be a lot happening. So join the movement and we’ll see you next time.

 

 

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007lyse
7 hours ago
Life Chain in northern not so On terrible anymore polled 80 thumbs up (not including 60people there) to 12 thumbs down. The degenerates are dwindling. Poor lame death cultists are unaware 2 middle fingers is way worse than one. Lol
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frosty85
8 hours ago
Joel get a new microphone, your sound is terrible compared to jacobs.
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ForRealers
16 hours ago
Left Wing / Right Wing, should now be defined as: Brown Wing / White Wing… or…. just identify the left as anti white wing
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TinyHatRemover
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18 hours ago
Send the jews to India.
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palacepony
SubSupporter
18 hours ago
Keith Woods in Poland & Germany; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylx6R8zz670
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katana17
18 hours ago
[Joel Davis – Ain’t No Party Like the White Australia Party – Oct 5, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/10/06/joel-davis-aint-no-party-like-the-white-australia-party-oct-5-2025-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis and Jacob Hersant discuss the following:

1. Jacob Hersant appears as guest host, while Blair takes a week off, discussing daylight savings and its German origins during WWI.

2. Jacob argues that people motivated by politics for non-racist reasons have “something wrong with them” as politics involves “debates over minutia.”

3. They criticise Gerard Rennick’s new party for being “extremely boring” and focused on policies that won’t “grab headlines” or motivate strong emotions.

4. Jacob explains their political strategy: “controversy is currency in, particularly on the political Right in the contemporary era.”

5. They discuss building toward establishing a political party, needing 1, 500 supporters across Australia to register federally.

6. Progress has been delayed due to charges against members following the “Camp Sovereignty incident” where “anti-fascists were attacking Australian patriots.”

7. Thomas Sewell (national leader) and another member are currently in prison, with bail hearings being organised.

8. Joel notes One Nation has “doubled its vote according to the polls” and is now “polling at like 13%” above the Greens.

9. They identify a “massive gap in the market for a kind of youth focused nationalism” as existing parties appeal mainly to “boomers.”

10. Jacob explains legal benefits of party registration, and currently how: “Victoria police will lie through their teeth and say this isn’t a political organisation at all! This isn’t a registered political party. It’s a criminal group.”

11. Joel argues the party provides “a way for the Australian public to buy into the movement en masse” as a “soft on ramp.”

And more, …..
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
white woman step up and stop banging blk and brown. stop the social media brain washing and normalization of degeneracy
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
local politicians, immigration agents, real estate agents, local councils, NGO, lobbyists, some church groups, immigrant services, ethnic councils, libraries, business people, building developers and investors, are the main enemies in your area! act locally.
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bobbytimms
20 hours ago
some advice, if u gonna to enter the political arena , u need experience. get some guys to find jobs within the AEC, go to local council meetings and enter local council elections undercover, volunteer for other parties, go to election booth, volunteer as scrutineers at voting day, and speak to people. most of the NWO and immigration in done through local councils.! they corrupt asf
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Sieger88
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22 hours ago
The whole Weeb culture is why White men are into Asians.
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BrossefStalin
15 hours ago
Also because they are more feminine than the feminist brainwashed White women. They are still traditional mostly if their parents still retain Asian culture
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imSofaKingRayZest
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1 hour ago
those “traditional” asians very quickly succumb to kosher feminism from their new “western” girlfriends and turn into even viler women so as well as destroying your genetic heritage you are worse off in the end with yellow fever.
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Snow_Whitee
1 day ago
So, where does one find an original copy of Mein Kampf without Jewish commentary?
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
The most recent and best translation is by Thomas Dalton. This is a good site to purchase a physical copy from: https://www.clemensandblair.com/catalog/mein-kampf-two-volumes Or you can download free PDFs here: https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-vol-1-2-dalton-translation-by-thomas-dalt-240208-110759 https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-redpill-action-publications-2021 Or you can listen to audiobook: https://t.me/HeebWatch/3757
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
Stalag or nothing. https://archive.org/details/meinkampf_202404
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Snow_Whitee
21 hours ago
Perfect. Thank you! Exact type of bookstore I was looking for too.. Won’t let me join the telegram channel, I prefer reading anyway but thanks for all the info
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
https://ostarapublications.com/product/mein-kampf-stalag-edition/ An exact reproduction of the only official English translation produced by the NSDAP, meant to be given to POWs to sway their favor while captured. Good quality and affordable. If you just want access to the text, it is archived and available for free here: https://archive.org/details/meinkampf_202404
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Snow_Whitee
21 hours ago
Oh, interesting.. have you read the Dalton one as well as this one? Curious to know if there’s a huge difference? I’ll probably eventually look into both. Thanks so much!
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AmalekAvenger
1 day ago
the Dalton translation is the best … please get that one
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Snow_Whitee
21 hours ago
Thank you!!
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Neqis
1 day ago
I could listen to these guys talking about interracial couples forever, golden content
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Scovell7
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1 day ago
Abandon your child because they are mixed race? You guys come across as fanatical at times.
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Keane55
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1 day ago
Man, Jacob’s setup is killer
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AmalekAvenger
1 day ago
yes. he needs to help joel sort out his studio and sound. Joel always sounds like he is in a drum or silo
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imSofaKingRayZest
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1 day ago
2 things wrong with the white australia policy, 1, it ended and 2, it let in jews.
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Motown88
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1 day ago
National Socialism would be neither far right nor far left, it would seem to be more centrist with a mixture of socialist policy for supporting the collectivisation of White Aussies and conservative capitalist in terms of our heritage preservation and encouragement of individual meritocracy.
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Neqis
1 day ago
It would probably be the most accurate to call it Authoritarian or radical centrism, if we are to use the traditional political compass.
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evon626
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1 day ago
Look….. there exist Arab and Persian women who are hotter than any white woman I’ve seen.
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ArchipelagoWoes
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1 day ago
Gay and retarded.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
Your guru, Hersant, has visible Iranic traits.
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evon626
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1 day ago
Like what?
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
Then breed out. We don’t need you if you don’t have strong enough in-group preference to not stick it in a sand snatch.
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evon626
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1 day ago
Let’s clarify: The average white woman is 10x hotter than the average woman from any other race. In the range of extreme beauty, however, there exist hotter Middle East women, just barely. Nonetheless, is incumbent upon white men to only reproduce with white women.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
Like his nose, eyes, eyebrows and hair color.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
The situation we’re facing is dire and not every man will have an opportunity to find his “perfect” white match. Finding an European looking middle eastern (Arab, Persian Turkish/Ottoman) willing to give you 7 kids is much more beneficial than standing around and coping. Just my 5cents…
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evon626
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1 day ago
This is a controversial take but I agree. It’s hard to formulate easily understandable rules for this though, so I’m fine with the mantra remaining “Only date white” since someone will bang an afro-arab and say “I thought you said we could bang arabs!” With genetic testing, I think we’ll be able to pick out those North Indian / Iranian / Arab women who are as Aryan as a blonde Swede. When everyone’s genome is mapped and public, then perhaps an easily understandable rule could be formulated, like “Only mate with >90% Yamnaya-descended women” or some such.
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1Antonius
20 hours ago
Yes, it is controversial and as you can see most morons here who happen to behave identically to the retards they pretend hating will downvote you to hell. These are hard times, man, and not everyone has the luxury of others.
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1Antonius
1 day ago
I agree. Their fetishism of blondes is pathetic.
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
Blondes? I only dig white women and don’t even prefer blondes.
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Gurifisu
1 day ago
Love seeing Jacob on the show. o/
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RomanSaluter
1 day ago
BLAIR SUCKS AND IS RETARDED! KEEP JACOB AND TOM! FUCK BLAIR!
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BasedKyubey
Supporter
1 day ago
Jacob Hersant looks like an AI.
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RealTruePatriot
1 day ago
Eric Striker was recently chimping out at European nationalists because they don’t like seeing their national monuments vandalized by pro-Palestine Antifa rioters. I used to enjoy some of the historical material covered on Warstrike, but he has completely lost the plot.
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v0lum3
1 day ago
Striker is brown himself. It’s no surprise he has become a third worldist, like Fuentes.
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evon626
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1 day ago
Italian?
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v0lum3
1 day ago
He’s Puerto Rican or something.
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Neqis
1 day ago
I love Warren but can’t stand Striker, wish Warren dropped him and teamed up with someone better
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SackOPossums
1 day ago
WarStrike is one of the dumbest shows in the sphere. No idea why it’s as popular as it is. Pretty sure Striker is some flavor of white-adjacent non, like a puerto rican or something similar.
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ArchipelagoWoes
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Your low IQ reply is why you don’t get the show.
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RealTruePatriot
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Here’s a crazy fact that White normies really need to hear: If you have a mixed-race child, you are more closely genetically related to some random White child that you see walking down the street than you are to your own mixed-race child. If you want to perpetuate your genetic material, it’s better to adopt a White child than have a mixed-race child. https://x.com/JFGariepy/status/1827386764673028112
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Motown88
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No coal burning, no oil drilling and keep off the rice wine…
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White_Dogs_House
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Can’t get organ transplants. Can’t receive bone marrow. Wait till you see the artificial organ and cybernetics market boom.
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RealTruePatriot
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Red Indians are around 2% of the US population. Unless you live in Alaska, near a reservation, or go to one of their casinos, you rarely see them. Also, a lot of them have White admixture at this point. It’s not the 1700s anymore. I used to hook up with one, and I was certain that she was White. She claimed to be native, and I told her she was full of shit, so she pulled out her tribal membership card to show me. In the US, Gen-Z is 40% Hispanic, so that’s why you’ll see low-tier White guys with them.
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Neqis
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It’s probably much less than 2%, it’s just cool and comes with benefits to identify as non-White. Same thing happened in Brazil, where the population of people who identify as mixed or native blew up because it stopped being cool to be just White, also in Australia so many Whites identify as aboriginals because it is cool and gives them an identity..
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BrossefStalin
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Crazy that identifying as the race that conquered the world and invented everything was propagandized to be “not cool” such a losers mentality
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TheShowgun
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Fuck i missed the stream
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katana17
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[The Offaly Offensive – Tim Lutze – Part 2 – Sep 27, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/09/27/the-offaly-offensive-tim-lutze-part-2-sep-27-2025-transcript/ [In Part 2 Graham Connolly continues with his talk with Aussie nationalist and State Leader of White Australia Tim Lutze about how his boxing gym, Legacy, was forced to close, and subsequent involvement in political rallies with the NSN, including the recent massive March for Australia event. – KATANA] [TRANSCRIPT – Words: 22,475 – Duration: 107 mins]
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1Antonius
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Why have you still not addressed the issue some people pointed out in the top comments of your previous live-video ?
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RealTruePatriot
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Tom is not a snitch. He did not snitch while in prison. This is old drama that subversives are trying to start up. Tom was in communication with other based White guys while in prison. The guys were located in a different area of the prison, so they exchanged letters through the mail. They discussed having Tom ask to be moved to the same cell block as them. This is a common practice in Australia. The prison staff regularly facilitates such requests and places similar races together. None of this was a secret. All prison communications are monitored. The prison staff could see that he was in communication with those guys and that they were friends. It was not a secret to the prison staff. Asking to be moved into the same cell block as your friends after they all discuss it is not snitching.
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Carnierge
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Some of the people let’s just say in the more wignat proximate spaces are more privy to gaol lingo and prison etiquette, and they don’t like what Sewell said in that clip you’re referring to nobody else. People who are more Nat con, further right conservatives, ethnat lites, groyper adjacent etc don’t care because they aren’t interested in the criminal underworld aryan prison gang thing and have never been to prison because they don’t break the law. This is an issue for people who care about Australian prison politics to have. Stay out of prison but if you do go in try and come home as quick as you can. If Sewell ever gets sorted back into the main it might be the worst thing to happen to him so the governor did him a favour by not obliging.
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RealTruePatriot
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If any of those guys that were in prison with Tom thought that Tom had snitched on them, they could have come forward at any time. Prison politics in the US is not like Australia. This is some drama that Hammer started a couple of years ago when he got butthurt about Tom saying that men in South Africa need to kill rapists. Hammer was on stream with Tom and said nothing at the time about Tom being a snitch, but decided to bring it up later when he was mad at Tom.
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1Antonius
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Personally, I would like them to come forward, acknowledge this and be transparent about it. But they don’t… And that’s a big minus.
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RealTruePatriot
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That old video is from the Truthslap channel on Bitchute. That guy is a schizophrenic who fedjackets everyone. You look like a subversive trying to share anything from that nutjob.
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1Antonius
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You’re babbling about fedjacketing, but you’re doing exactly the same thing, you fucking moron, LOL.
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FlubbaBubbaNoonga
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What was the issue
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RealTruePatriot
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Some schizophrenic named Truthslap on Bitchute is a nutjob who fedjackets everyone in the scene. Tom did not snitch on anyone.
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imSofaKingRayZest
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vid of him admiting to being a snitch
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RealTruePatriot
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Tom asked to be transferred to the same cell block as his friends. The prison staff already knew that they were his friends because all communications are monitored and they were sending letters through the mail between their different cell blocks. The friends encouraged Tom to come join them. This is a common practice in Australian prisons. You have to be a bad actor or extremely misinformed to suggest that Tom is a snitch.
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imSofaKingRayZest
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i thought as much but as it was mentioned in the last vid a few have felt it needed to be cleared up
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WhiteBitchTripleSix
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Perhaps join the NSM if you like pointless drama so much and not accomplishing anything.
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SackOPossums
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Because it was addressed… in the same stream the clip was from… 4 fucking years ago. The context is clear. You’re either retarded or intentionally subversive.
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1Antonius
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Not everyone was around 6 years ago you fuckface ! And I don’t care for you to explain the situation. I want Joel and the heads of this organization to come out as transparent. Absolute moron you guys are… A man asking for clarification and I get you retards instead. Reddit-level mongrels.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Lana Lokteff: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I’m Lana. Joining me from down under is Joel Davis and Tom Sewell, who are mass deportation enthusiasts. We’ll discuss how mass immigration is transforming Australia and really, the entire West. How did we get here? And what can be done about it? Welcome, Joel.

 

Joel Davis: Great to be here.

 

Thomas Sewell: I finally got an invite to the Cool Kids Club, so it’s a pleasure to be here.

 

Lana Lokteff: Let’s get into. There’s so much I want to get into, including the outrageous activist persecution that’s happening in Australia. Thomas, I know you went to jail for some bogus charges.

 

We’ll also get into that.

 

But I think a great place to begin is really to tell us how you both became a nationalist. What made you first start thinking about being White and realizing how race mattered? Everyone has a story, so let’s start with you, Thomas.

 

Thomas Sewell: I was born in New Zealand, to the dismay of all my Australian friends and colleagues in this struggle and my family, I’d say my father was a big influence on me. He wasn’t openly or outwardly fascistic or National Socialist, but he certainly understood the concept of race. He used to always complain about from a liberal, always from a liberal perspective, he used to complain about how you know why don’t the Whites get treated equally? Isn’t the whole point equality and egalitarianism? And he would always complain that Maori’s got special treatment in New Zealand or in the UK where he was born and where our family’s from, how all these Pakistanis and Africans moved into their areas and got assistance and help and felt like the White people were sort of pushed out.

 

And so I did have a basic understanding of race. Certainly the most radical conversation I ever had with my father was he explained when they had their honeymoon in South Africa and we had family in Rhodesia and in South Africa, and he caught up with some family and family friends.

 

And basically they were just describing why genocide. They were describing what was going on in South Africa, what happened in Rhodesia, and why they had to flee. And talking about living in these compounds away from the blacks, but having to keep guns on them at all times because there was instances where the black security guards would turn on the Whites. And at ten years old, that’s a pretty heavy conversation to be privy to.

 

And so that definitely helped shape a worldview of, okay, like, I’m starting to notice this. The next step from there was early high school and late primary school. I became pretty obsessed with history.

 

And as Hitler said:

 

“You know, first I came to love history, then I became a nationalist.”

 

So having a deep understanding of ancient Greek, ancient Roman and ancient German history or Germanic history, I just love studying that. So having that wealth of knowledge. These books are probably still in most school libraries, if you can find them. I don’t think they were overly political, but just having a base knowledge of these people, of our people, and what we’ve achieved over thousands of years, to me, helped build a sense of self identity, of self pride. And I felt an attachment to this history. I didn’t feel like it was some foreign concept. I read it as these are our ancestors. And I had that knowledge even back then. From there, certainly, I noticed the racial demographics change in my high school, and I lived in a very multicultural area that was slowly going from maybe ten to 20% non-European to about ten to 20% European. And this happened in about a decade.

 

So very quickly I noticed the collusion between the people that ran my high school, the principal, and all the sort of hierarchy of the high school. They were having business relationships with real estate agents and they were having relationships with Chinese developers. So they were the people that were running my high school were going over to China and having business meetings with Chinese people. And simultaneously, the property prices in my area were going from about 500,000. It was a pretty middle class area, upper middle class area, to about $2 million in a very short period of space. So I could see this collusion. And I was still only probably 15 at this point. And I started studying World War Two in history, and I didn’t understand why Hitler was the bad guy. I certainly didn’t understand that. I didn’t see or hear anything that he had said that was bad. After that, I was always drawing swastikas on the desk for some reason at school. I’m not sure why at the time.

 

Lana Lokteff: Your dad didn’t teach you that?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no, my dad is a like, my dad thinks Churchill was the good guy. My dad thinks that the Anglo Saxons fought the Germans, you know, for good reason, and we’re not speaking. He sort of believes that Boomer lie. My dad’s a boomer. He was born in 1951, and his dad fought in World War Two against the Germans. And my mum’s grandfather fought as a Lancaster bomber pilot as well, against the Germans and bombed German cities.

 

So there’s a lot of bad harming, a lot of bad karma in my family that we’ve done a lot to hurt the Germans and hurt our brothers in these brothers wars.

 

And for me, that was always I want to side with my father and my grandfather, my great grandfather.

 

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But then I’m reading this history of World War Two, and I’m reading about Hitler, and I’m learning about Hitler, and it was just always in the back of my mind. And then I kind of fell down. I joined the army, and I fell down. More of a focus on the anti-Islam stuff, for sure. And I started watching Tommy Robinson, and I was always confused as to why he was waving Israeli flags. This is sort of going back to 2013 and stuff. And there was a lot of terror attacks and then on YouTube. Back then, YouTube was amazing! And I watched all these different sort of Hitler videos and Hitler Hyde videos. My favorite was probably one called the floodkams or Deyflutt Kampt. I can’t speak German, but that’s my memory of it. And I just thought, this is magical. This is mystical. This is something I’ve always been drawn to, the swastika. And this is just drawing me in even further.

 

And then there were some breaking points where I watched the [Ernst] Zundel interviews, I watched videos on the Holocaust, or the “Holocaust” hoax, however you want to put it, and Irving videos, Zundel interviews. And I just thought, this is all a lie. We’ve been lied to the whole time. And my instinct to always be fascinated with the Third Reich, always be fascinated with Hitler, was right. And then I read Mein Kampf properly for the first time because I had a really crappy copy. Someone bought me Mein Kampf in high school, but it was like a jewish version of it was only, like, 180 pages, and it wasn’t correct. I read it, and I didn’t really like it at all! I thought it was boring. And then I met Blair Cottrell.

 

And I believe Blair actually bought me my first copy of Mein Kampf. And I read that, and from that moment, I was just actually, I think it was just before I met Blair. It must have been a girlfriend at the time, or someone definitely bought me Minecarth. I didn’t buy it myself, and it was the Ralph Mannheim edition with the crappy footnotes. But I still.

 

Joel Davis: I just loved it!

 

Thomas Sewell: I just loved it so much.

 

And from that moment on, I engaged full-time. I’ve been full-time since about 2014 in White nationalist politics, in different versions, different variations.

 

And from that moment, I’ve just dedicated myself entirely to Adolf Hitler’s vision of Europe, of the Aryan ideal, the overman, the coming man.

 

However, you want to put it? I’ve just worked towards that ideal as best as I can with what I’ve been with the clay that God has made me.

 

Lana Lokteff: And you’re only 30, so you’ve been at this for a while at a pretty young age, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think I just turned 31, but, yeah, I’ve been doing this since publicly. Since 21. Yeah, publicly since 21.

 

Lana Lokteff: Joel, how about you?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, when I was a teenager, I, um. There were many, like, obvious signs that I would become what I’ve become, but I didn’t really put it all together yet. Like, I’ve really found racist banter and jokes hilarious and would often engage in that. And I remember. I can remember how old I was, but when I was a teenager, there was a there was a Mountain Dew pole, and they said:

 

“We got a new Mountain Dew flavor, and we’re going to basically let the people vote on what we’re going to call it.”

 

And 4chan hijacked the poll and voted “Hitler Did Nothing Wrong” as the flavor of the new Mountain Dew.

 

And I thought that was the most fucking hilarious thing ever! I was like, what is this site? 4chan?

 

So that was how I became aware of 4chan. I saw that in the news, and I thought the reaction to it was quite hilarious, and I was really disappointed that Mountain Dew didn’t go through with it. I really wanted them to make the Hitler did nothing wrong cans, and I wanted to buy one, and I was like, why wouldn’t they make that? That’s hilarious! Hilarious.

 

Anyway, so there was echoes of things I became kind of fascinated with, almost, like, pretending to be a Nazi for comedic value. Like, I was an ironic. I was an irony bro Nazi in our conversation. And, yeah, I used to have really long blonde hair. My hair’s gotten darker as I got older, but I had. I was a metalhead teenager and had long hair down to, like down to my chest. And we have this thing in Australia. I don’t know if they have it in other countries called the world’s greatest shave. It’s like, basically, you get people to sponsor you to shave your head, and then you give the money to, like, cancer research or something.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: So I did that, and I shaved my head full skinhead.

 

And then and then people at school, I was about 15 or 16, and the people at school started saying:

 

“Oh, you’re a skinhead.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yeah, heil Hitler, motherfucker! I’m a skinhead!”

 

And I realized the non-White kids at school, they didn’t realize I was joking. They, like, literally thought I was a skinhead. And they acted completely differently. They were all intimidated. And that made me feel pretty cool! So, like, I kind of felt this kind of pull towards Nazism of sorts, but it didn’t ideologically form my politics was more. I was more of just like a libertarian, anti-establishment. I knew that the people who ran the world were the bankers. I knew that politics was fraudulent. I knew that there was malevolent forces in control. I knew that a lot of those bankers were jewish. But I didn’t connect all the dots on the significance of race necessarily, although I was open minded, I just wasn’t really exposed.

 

And then as I got into my late teens. I started becoming exposed largely through libertarian Internet communities.

 

So this is in the early to mid 2010s.

 

So I probably became an ideological White nationalist around, 2014, 2015, because that was a time at which there was this really strong libertarian to nationalist or libertarian to fascist pipeline on the Internet. I remember basically, race got brought into a lot of libertarian arguments. Like, I remember arguing about gun rights, for example. You know, in Australia, we don’t have gun rights, and a lot of Australians have this kind of perverse pseudo patriotism about how we don’t have gun rights and how this makes us better than the Americans for some reason, because America is always having mass shootings, and look at all the shootings that are happening in America.

 

Lana Lokteff: We don’t have a lot more. Honestly, now it’s all the trannies shooting everyone. So.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. But I always thought guns were cool, so I was like:

 

“No, I want to have a gun. It’s bullshit that I don’t have a gun. I want to have one. I want to be out of if anyone else has a gun, I want to have a gun so that I can defend myself.”

 

And it just always seemed logical to me, I guess. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I believe in my ancient rights instinctively.

 

And so I was against that position. And I would argue, but then often, even when arguing with Australians, we’d have to argue about America, because America is the test case for a country that actually has gun rights. So when arguing about the United States, when you look at it, when you break it down state by state, I remember, like, there was this Stefan Molyneux video I watched back in 2014, the truth about gun crime or something.

 

Lana Lokteff: I remember that one, actually. Yes.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And he just went through how it doesn’t matter how liberal or conservative, each state is how. Because obviously in Blue states, they’ve got a lot of restrictions on guns, almost to the point that you don’t actually have gun rights in states like Illinois or New York. It’s almost like a European country or Australia with the way that the gun laws are.

 

Whereas, obviously, in the Red states or even Blue states that are quite homogenous, like, I believe in Vermont or something I don’t think they have that many restrictions on guns, even though it’s a Democrat state, because, well, they don’t have any blacks.

 

Anyway, the point is that that’s the conclusion. The conclusion is, doesn’t matter what your gun laws are the States that have a lot of blacks have more gun crime. The states that don’t have a lot of blacks have almost no gun crime. It doesn’t matter how liberal or conservative they are. It doesn’t matter what their restrictions are.

 

And obviously, we know that the crime rate is way higher with blacks. So whereas if you look at, like, White Americans with gun rights, their murder rate is the same as White Australians, even though we don’t have gun rights.

 

So if you want to kill someone, you figure it out whether guns are legal or illegal.

 

So, anyway, the point is that forced me to make a race realist argument, basically to defend a component of libertarianism.

 

And then I started developing race realist arguments from the libertarian discourse at the time about how you know why are they importing Mexicans into the United States? Well, because they’re going to vote for socialism, all these kinds of things.

 

So I started to become more racially conscious that if I wanted to have the my ancient Anglo Saxon rights, I needed to be in a country full of Anglo Saxons, or at the very least, White people who agreed that we should have those rights because that’s our culture.

 

And so that led me down a pipeline, and then I was already kind of aware of 4chan and so on, and that just led me down a pipeline where, after thinking those thoughts, it takes, like, three months, and ’m a “Holocaust”.

 

Lana Lokteff: Then you’re a Nazi.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Yeah, exactly! So then I became. That’s what I became.

 

And then I had this trajectory to become an intellectual that I wanted to walk down the path of and so basically, I was reading books and so on, and I thought, if I kind of work through the system, eventually I can occupy a position in academia and then become, like, a based academic or something. Well, that ship is sailing. Yeah. I was walking down I was trying to go down that path for a couple of years there, and then ultimately I just came to the realization that that doesn’t make any sense. Like, as soon as I reveal my power level, I’m going to get removed from these institutions. Why am I trying to build a career in this trajectory? And around that time, I became friends with another Australian youtuber, dissident Right, youtuber at the time, who went by the moniker True Dill Tom. People might remember him. He deleted his account years ago, but he was kind of like Keith Woods before Keith Woods. He kind of had this youthful exuberance and intellectual bent and so on.

 

We became personal friends and he was like:

 

“Oh, can you do a podcast with me on some Julius Evola book?”

 

I can’t remember which one it was. I think it was the metaphysics of war or something. I said:

 

“Yeah, sure, that sounds fun.”

 

So we did a podcast and he’s like:

 

“Can we do another podcast? Let’s do one on, …”

 

Like, we did, like, Spanglers, Prussianism and Socialism or something. We just started doing all these intellectual podcasts, and I started to get a kind of a vibe for it. I kind of quite enjoyed the he had a big audience, so it felt good to be able to kind of engage with academic literature in a public way. So that kind of drew me into starting my own YouTube channel and doing my own podcasts and so on.

 

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And at first, it was a very intellectual thing. Like, a lot of my content was really based around academic subjects with an obvious political bent.

 

But then over time, I just kind of got, like, sucked more and more into actual activism.

 

So that’s kind of probably been my transformation is kind of trying to be a racist intellectual commentator, to just try to fuse that with walking the path of the activist, which is kind of where I am now.

 

Lana Lokteff: And the big issue we’re all dealing with is mass immigration, right? That is the big thing. Now I want to find out how Australia, like, what was their Hart-Celler Act? This is a question for both of you, because in America, we can look at the Hart-Celler Act. 1965, Gates of immigration just started opening. The floodgates were wide open. People started coming in.

 

Now, how did Australia in particular open the doors to mass immigration?

 

Because I remember hearing stories where they used to blow up invader boats, and now you’re welcoming them with open arms.

 

Joel Davis: You mean through legislation? It wasn’t really done through legislation here because the White Australia Policy was largely implemented bureaucratically when Australia was founded in 1901. The founders wanted to put the White Australia Policy in our constitution. The British, however, did not approve of that because they were trying to build an alliance with the Japanese at the time. They thought it would be offensive to them and potentially other non-White international partners.

 

And so they said:

 

“You can have your White Australia Policy, but just don’t be so explicit about it.”

 

So the way that it was implemented. Yeah, like, there were immigration and restriction powers given to the immigration bureaucracy, but then they just filled the bureaucracy with racists.

 

And so then there was literally people in the Australian immigration bureaucracy in the 1930s who, if someone wanted to immigrate here from Europe, they would send a picture of themselves and then analyze it, like, does this guy look jewish? And if they look jewish, they’d, like, reject the application. That would have been the coolest job!

 

But, yeah, but they also had dictation tests.

 

So basically, if anyone came, and the dictation test could be not just given in English, but they could just choose any language, basically, that they wanted to. They had, like, this list of languages. So someone could be non-White but could speak English, and so they just make them sit the test in French, knowing that they couldn’t speak French. They could just fail them.

 

So it was done in this indirect way. Then, basically, the bureaucracy got taken over by jews through the 1960s.

 

And basically the jewish community in Australia subverted the institution, got themselves in charge of it, and at the same time, political currents were changing. This is the 1960s. The rest of the world, Britain, the United States, ripping up., … Well, they’re completely changing their immigration policies, obviously, around this time.

 

And at the end of World War Two, we were kind of stuck with the Americans. We were in the British Empire. Obviously, the empire collapsed in World War Two because we won that war against the Germans. That’s why our empire collapsed.

 

And so we were kind of stuck now with the Americans as the British basically abandoned us in the region and the Americans stepped in and we fought the Japanese together. And then now the threat of communism was directly in our region, with, obviously, China and various other Asian states falling to communism. We were really involved in the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and so on.

 

And we were all the way with the Americans in the Cold War.

 

And so we were like, yes, we have to maintain White power in the Asia Pacific region. It’s so good that we’ve got the Americans with us and the Americans, like:

 

“Whoa, whoa, whoa! We’re here to defend liberal democracy. Don’t be saying that White power stuff to the Australian diplomats in 1940s 1950s!”

 

So we used to have a strong White nationalist country up until that point, but we were kind of cucked by international trends and internal weakness. Like, we had a liberal democratic system that became progressively more tolerant through phases. After World War Two, we started accepting Mediterranean and Slavic immigrants where we didn’t even really accept those. Prior to the Second World War, we had pretty much a Nordicist immigration policy.

 

And then a lot of jews came in.

 

In fact, American jewry funded ships where we were like, well, open our doors to Italians, to Greeks. These countries have been destroyed by the Second World War.

 

A lot of people wanted to immigrate. And we realized in the Second World War, we only had like 4 million people on this entire continent. We faced an existential threat from the Japanese empire. We need to basically, the idea was populate or perish. We need more people, and we can’t just, the idea was that basically the amount of immigrants we were getting from Britain wasn’t going to be enough. So they said:

 

“We can bring in some Italians and some Greeks and so on.”

 

Lana Lokteff: Some criminals., … I’m teasing!

 

Joel Davis: But then as we open the door to the Italians and the Greeks, then American jewry starts basically hijacking the program and funding a bunch of jews from Europe to then immigrate to Australia. They get established in Australia, basically. Then American jewry sets them up with a series of loans. They take over the property developer industry in Australia. they become embedded in a lot of political institutions. And the jewish community, which wasn’t really that powerful at all or didn’t really have any real significant influence prior to the Second World War, became way more influential.

 

The only reason Australia developed ASIO, which is basically our primary intelligence agency, was because a bunch of jews came from Europe after the Second World War.

 

And then they immediately infiltrated the government and started giving state secrets away to the Soviet Union. And the Americans couldn’t even trust us with basically secure information, and so we had to basically reform our entire security state, because prior to the Second World War, we had such a high trust society. It was so homogenous, we didn’t even need to have a formal intelligence agency. We just didn’t have any fucking traitors in the country!

 

So that was a big shift.

 

And then, yeah, from the forties to the late sixties, you just see this gradual kind of erosion. You know, this kind of globalist culture gets projected in, the television is invented.

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s like the same story in every White country, basically. That’s the same model at that point, right? Starts seeping in. Thomas, anything you wanted to add?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Joel’s got a very good understanding, very strong understanding of the history.

 

The only thing that I would add to it is all of the prime ministers at the time that threw us under the bus and sided with world jewry. Their push politically to transform Australia from a White nation into a multicultural nation or multiracial nation came. The crucial years were between 1966 and 1975. So you hear this everywhere. This is the same crucial years as America, same crucial years as Britain. And in that period of time, the jews had been in Australia in significant numbers, in enough numbers to properly, politically, mobilize for at least, 200 years. And that gave them the time to start building these lobby groups, these ethnic lobby groups, and they disguised all these lobby groups with all these different names. So they were called strange names, like Community Affairs or Lobby for a Future Australia, or they had all these, like, very almost meaningless names, but some of them were actually, like, organized lobbies for world jewry or international jewry or whatever, Zionist federations. And they had so many of these lobbies, and they just put a front man, like a rabbi in charge of each one.

 

And then they put all this sort of like the jews are very good at just mounting paperwork on top of a politician. You know, they just love coming to court. They don’t need the truth! They don’t need the jewish legal system is like, kind of the opposite of like a, what is it? Laconic or Spartan kind of legal system. It’s not really about who’s correct, it’s not about who’s right. It’s not about who’s thorough. And ten words can beat a thousand lies. They’re more about the thousand lies.

 

And so they just mounted all this paperwork on the government to say that all these different communities would benefit if we didn’t have such strict immigration laws. And there was a test case maybe ten years earlier where there was an Australian soldier, I believe, that came back from the Korean war with a Korean war bride. And it was national news. It was like the biggest travesty at the time. It was like everyone was gossiping about it. All the sort of low end newspapers were all having a go at this guy, basically for picking up an Asian. Like, one Asian war bride was national news back in the fifties, the good old age. It was like a test case, and I can’t remember the exact details of it. I’m sure someone in the chat will know. But the test case was, I’m pretty sure the whole country wanted him deported to Korea. They were just like, and I think there was a quote from one of the most senior politicians of the day that said something like:

 

“Two wongs don’t make a White!”

 

There’s just all this hilarious, like, memeology, like, racist banter is just at the core of Australian spiritual and political discourse.

 

And anyway, the real power that the jews had wasn’t in these fake lobbies. That was just all this mounting pressure is just so that the traitor in government, when he’s explaining to all the people that aren’t necessarily on board with his treason, he can say:

 

“Oh, but look at all this expert witness and expert advice and all these lobbies!”

 

And they’ve got this kind of like intellectual and legal backing behind them.

 

But really what caused the shift was all of these prime ministers during this time period and after are all multi, multi millionaires. If they’re still alive.

 

I mean, we’re talking in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And they own property. They own property.

 

So the jews took control of the property development and they let in these prime ministers on their boards as directors. When these prime ministers left office, they became property developers and most of them became real estate agents to China. Most of them would travel over regularly to China and they basically became prostitutes. Prostitutes of the property market. So they got paid more than 30 pieces of silver, they got paid in the hundreds of millions of dollars to change these legislations in the sixties and seventies to destroy our nation.

 

So that’s all I want.

 

Lana Lokteff: And now Australia is full of Chinese. I remember even when I was there in 2008, I would say that was the largest demographic that I saw, like:

 

“Oh, wow, there’s lots of Chinese people in Australia!”

 

I didn’t expect that.

 

Now, what is the situation like today? Because I saw this clip that was going around on time. you know, Melbourne 2024. We can queue that up. Plate. What does it look like when you walk around Australia now, demographics wise? I mean, are there areas where White people are a minority now?

 

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Joel Davis: Now there’s yellow flight to get away from all the Indians and blacks. So.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, because it’s not a Kumbaya fest with White people out of the picture either.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but that’s the scale now, like the major, like when you. Sydney and Melbourne are our two largest cities. About half the population of Australia live in either Sydney or Melbourne. And both of those cities, I would say a majority non-White. Sydney, definitely. Melbourne may be 50 50 at best.

 

Lana Lokteff: I mean, this has happened fast too. I mean, quick.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. When I was.

 

When I was a kid, the country was well over 90% White.

 

And I remember areas Where I lived and grew up in, and I remember, you know, my first memories is like six, seven, eight years old. And just like, I would see one Asian and it would be kind of strange.

 

And now you go to the same area and there isn’t one White person there! Just total transformation at a very rapid speed. The last ten to 20 years in particular, the accelerator pedal is just a brick has been thrown on it. When the White Australia Policy was first deconstructed in the seventies, we fought this war against the Vietnamese, and we probably shouldn’t have done that. We brutalized them. All of the anti-Vietnam war propaganda was quite strong at the time.

 

So we should take some refugees from Vietnam because we displaced them with our imperialism or whatever.

 

And so they brought them in and then they started opening to the Chinese.

 

And, I mean, obviously I’m no fan of yellow immigration, but the yellow races maybe a little bit more agreeable than some of the other ones. I think if they opened the Gates and said:

 

“Hey, let’s take a bunch of immigrants from Nigeria!”

 

I don’t think that people would have been as permissive. Right?

 

So they started bringing them in first, and then when you get to the nineties, then maybe some Middle Easterners start coming in and then, yeah, that created a reaction, the anti-Islam reaction.

 

And now lately, it’s like, I’m going to say majority Indian, but it’s definitely the largest demographic. Like, statistically, Indians are the largest non-White demographic in Australia. They’re the fastest growing demographic in Australia. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them come in every year.

 

Our prime minister prostitutes himself to the Indian government. Every time he meets with the Indian prime minister, he has to sign a new agreement. That makes it even easier for Indians to immigrate here.

 

And, yeah, they’re just basically flooding the country in such a rapid way now.

 

Lana Lokteff: Are they telling you guys, just like in America and everywhere else:

 

“You need to celebrate becoming a minority? You stole the land from the Aboriginals!”

 

You know, we get that all the time:

 

“You don’t own the land, you stole it!”

 

You know, racism, colonialism, slavery.

 

“Therefore we get to flood you with the entire third world and you have to celebrate it. And it’s so wonderful to become a minority!”

 

Are you guys are getting the same kind of arguments thrown at you, right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, more or less.

 

But also, they don’t even have that argument a lot of the time. They just talk about how great it is for the economy, basically. Now all the media reports are actually:

 

“This is really bad! It’s causing a housing crisis. We’re taking too many immigrants. Isn’t that kind of a shame?”

 

And then we have, like a fake debate about how should we reduce immigration by 20% or 30%. And this is all framed in economic language to make it as boring as possible.

 

And so the question of identity isn’t even raised in the positive or the negative. That’s basically the strategy of mainstream politics, because they know that immigration is wildly unpopular!

 

So they don’t actually want the debate to go where we want the debate to go, because as soon as it goes there, it gets polarized, inflammatory in a way that makes their position untenable.

 

So generally, that’s how Australian politics functions. They try to make Australian politics as boring, non-ideological, pragmatic and economistic as possible so that they can try and get the population to check out and not pay attention and not identify with any particular side of any issue and just keep basically narrow mindedly focusing on entertainment and their personal lives.

 

Australia is one of the most apolitical societies probably in the world. That’s a real big contrast between us and, I think, the United States. In America, whether you’re a Democrat, or a Republican, this is really, socially, important. In Australia, most people don’t even discuss politics insofar as they do they don’t really have very robust political identities. They don’t have, like, there isn’t very strong party loyalty in the average person or anything like that, or ideological identity.

 

So that’s more the strategy, I think. Yeah, like, obviously Leftists say that:

 

“Yeah, we stole the land off the Aboriginals. What right do we have?”

 

And there’s often, like, historical revisionism where they pretend like, as if., … Because it is true that in the 19th century there were non-White immigration. There was non-White immigration into Australia. It wasn’t actually Australia yet. It was still a series of British colonies.

 

But that’s the whole reason, actually, why Australia was created, because basically that caused White nationalism to grow in Australia. And the White nationalist movement basically demanded that Australia be formed, demanded this from the Crown, so that we could basically deport all the non-Whites and keep them out of the country.

 

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And the first thing that the Australian government ever did once it was formed was literally passed the White Australia Policy, literally pass Immigration Restriction Act. And they basically mass deported the non-Whites that were here almost entirely as the first act of the Australian government.

 

So they don’t actually mention any of that they just say:

 

“Oh, there’s always been Chinese people here and there’s always been non-Whites here, and they’ve always contributed to the country. And don’t they work so hard?”

 

And that’s typical kind of everything is reduced to economics.

 

Lana Lokteff: Now, you were saying that your average person there doesn’t really talk about politics. I remember that, too, when I was there, although I wasn’t very political. Yeah, maybe they don’t get involved in political discussion until, let’s say, you’re a White nationalist, right? Then it becomes an issue. I mean, what are the views on White supremacy with your average Australian?

 

Thomas Sewell: I would say the discourse has changed massively in the last five years.

 

And as Joel mentioned earlier, we have had such a surge in Indians in the last five years.

 

And I think this is strategic from the Australian government, and I think it’s also why the Canadian government is doing it as well. There is potentially war with China on the cards, and we have a fifth column of somewhere between one in 3 million Chinese people in this country, depending on whether you count citizens, permanent residents, students, or all the various different types of visas where they can teach yoga or paint nails or something, as a skilled worker, of course.

 

And so the government is really trying to. They’ve realized they’re unbalanced. When Canada and Australia talk about we’re the most successful, you know, multicultural societies. What they’re talking about is they’re gloating. They’re saying:

 

“We have most successfully worked out how to balance all the fifth columns so no one fifth column stands out.”

 

So we’ve got a series of fifth columns, so many of them that we can keep the table up. It doesn’t displace the table.

 

So what they’re doing is they’re pumping the country full of Indians to try to restabilize their fifth columns so that China doesn’t have this over. They need at least as many Indians security guards to lock as many Chinese people in the camps as they can, if we did actually go to war and to negate their influence.

 

But at the same time, they are flooding the country with a lot of Arabs. They are flooding the country with way more Africans than there’s ever been and that’s another factor. We never had Africans. We had, when I was in high school, I only knew of one African family in ten grid squares, and they were the child of some African warlord where we gave some African country $20 million, and the guy just took all the money and then fled to Australia and that was the only African in the entire Eastern suburbs that I grew up in.

 

Obviously, some of the other areas had been hit by Africans, the bioweapon, a little earlier, maybe five years earlier, but there were no Africans in Australia. It was like not even 0.001% of the population. And now they’re starting to get, I think, over 0.5% of the population. And obviously, you know, this sounds really small, but they breed at a very high rate, and certain suburbs, they’ve completely taken over.

 

So what White people are seeing, in my opinion, is they’ve seen a relatively “successful multiculturalism”. And I don’t like to use that term, that’s their term.

 

But what they’ve seen is a multiculturalism where it’s sort of Kumbaya. It’s kind of Kumbaya. It’s kind of all worked out. We’ve just got the boomers will say:

 

“But how good’s the food?”

 

And now our generation specifically can’t get a rental. As you put up, the mortgages are through the roof because the demand on housing is so high. Suburbs have been completely either Chinesified if you grew up in a kind of upper class area, or they’ve been Indianified if you’re in a kind of lower middle class area, or they’ve been Africanized if you’re in a really lower class, working class area. So this, every demographic, or in some instances, it’s been sort of like Arabs can kind of blend through the three.

 

Joel Davis: There’s rich Arabs.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, Pacific Islanders as well, if you’re in a poor area. So every White person in Australia has experienced the negatives of diversity by one or multiple ethnic groups. And they’ve watched these fifth columns take over suburbs. So especially in the last five years, it’s been so rapid! I think up until a couple years ago, the majority of our immigrants, even though we were immigrating a lot of Chinese, the majority of our immigration was still European. We were still getting, like about 40% from England alone. I think like 10, 15 percent from New Zealand, which again, was mostly White flight people running away from the sort of high taxation and “Maori love” that New Zealand’s obsessed with, my family and, yeah, so it was still majority White. Now it’s not majority White. And the area that I live in, outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, when I just moved here about three or four years ago, or actually it was before prison, probably four years ago, it was probably 10% Indian.

 

And now it’s probably like 50 or 60% Indian, and it’s just rapid.

 

And also, there’s been a completely complete different change in the type of Indian as well.

 

So when we grew up, I lived in a multicultural area, went to a multicultural school, and there were people in my friendship group that were Chinese or Sri Lankan or Indian. Their fathers were all highly educated. They were very anglicized. They spoke very properly with a very proper, so English or American accent. They went to international schools. They were kind of the upper class of China, Korea, India, Sri Lanka. They were almost always Christians as well. So that almost all of them actually got their visas through the Church.

 

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So that’s something that’s not mentioned much, but I mention it because I allowed to be critical, but that was the kind of Indians and Chinese that we were getting. We weren’t getting these kind of really low caste, fake educated. Like, they’ve got the piece of paper saying they’re an engineer, but it’s obviously a fraud piece of paper. They’re very low IQ. They don’t speak English, most of them, and if they do, it’s very poor.

 

And so people are no longer interacting with a Chinese person or an Indian person that is putting on the White flesh. You know, these Chinese and Indians that moved here 20 years ago, they had the White flesh on. They were skin-walkers.

 

Lana Lokteff: So they can kind of make it work.

 

Thomas Sewell: They could walk and talk and act.

 

And I remember going, I had a Sri Lankan friend in primary school, and I would go to his house and his father was a banker and actually worked with one of my family, friends who was also a banker. Like a branch branch banker and like your local banker, not like fucking some big jew and, you know what I mean? Like, anyway, not a tower, but like a branch manager.

 

Anyway. So and he would talk with this proper English accent and you know, he talk about all the things that we did in school, and it was like a skin-walker. It was like the Sri Lankan guy just acting and walking and talking exactly like us. And it was fascinating!

 

But now it’s just everywhere you go, everywhere you go now it’s just like you’re surrounded by thousands of Indians, and they’re all speaking Punjabi or Hindi or whatever, and they’re all on the phone constantly. So you go into a 711, and then you’re like:

 

“Yeah, pump six.”

 

You go into a gas station, you go into servo, and the guy’s like, you go up to the Indian, you’re like:

 

“Yeah, pump six.”

 

And the guy’s like:

 

“Ding, ding, ding, ding!”

 

And then he’s like:

 

“Sorry, what? Sorry, what?”

 

And you’re like. And you’re like:

 

“Pump six!”

 

And he’s like, dingling. Ding, ding, ding!

 

Lana Lokteff: God, that’s annoying.

 

Thomas Sewell: Day in day 8.98, 08.98, $9.89. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And you’re like:

 

“What the!”

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s almost, like, tricked you guys. Like, okay, we’ll have the best of these races come in and show you how awesome multiculturalism and diversity can be.

 

And then eventually, well, just let in the scum of the world. Right, and flood you until you’re a minority. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Lana Lokteff: But that’s not also an argument saying:

 

“Oh, we want merit based mass immigration population.”

 

Neither.

 

Joel Davis: We’ve just been a great argument against it, actually. It shows the pitfalls. I’d much rather have the terrible immigrants so that people become more racist and realize what we’re dealing with here.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

So let’s talk about activist persecution in Australia. I mean, and how bad is it? I saw Elijah Schaffer put up this tweet getting into a little bit about what’s happening there, and it’s like, America, you know, we’ve been de-banked, we’ve been banned from all kinds of platforms written about by the journalists and called all kinds of things.

 

But this is happening in Australia to de-banked. You’re getting banned. Federal police is calling. Was it gyms? And pressuring to cancel your memberships, even stopping by houses for basically wellness checks. Right? So how bad is it? I know they were doing some of this stuff during Covid too. It is insane!

 

But now they’re really focusing on nationalists again. Right? Have you seen this list, Thomas, you’re reading?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we, …

 

Lana Lokteff: We gave him this list.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ll let Joel answer this one to start with, because I’m not sure exactly how much we can say on this.

 

On the Schaffer question, because we did an interview with Schaffer. I’m sure you all can start off with and, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, yeah, well, I mean, as for the persecution of nationalist activists in Australia, it’s not as bad as in Britain. I would say the UK probably is the worst country in the world for persecuting White nationalists, other than, I guess, maybe the Russian Federation and Germany. Yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Russia and Germany would be the two worst.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But the Germans have kind of adapted because they’ve been under occupation for so long.

 

So they’ve adapted more to that environment where, like, I think in Britain, people thought that we had rights, and then they tried to exercise their rights. And people like Sam Melia are now in jail, and they’re banned from even, like, seeing pictures of their own, you know, children, babies, because they made stickers that were too nationalistic or something.

 

So obviously, we’re not at that level yet.

 

But in Australia, the basically the state has admitted the security services have admitted that between about a half and a third of their resources go on White nationalism.

 

Lana Lokteff: Jeez.

 

Joel Davis: And the rest goes on, I guess, like, Islamic terrorism and maybe, like, Chinese subversion or something.

 

Anyway, so, yeah, they’ve got however many thousands of agents listening to every single one of Tom and I’s phone calls and so on.

 

I guess I don’t know what they do. We’re law abiding citizens, so they probably. They have to waste a lot of their time surveilling us and realizing that we’re law abiding citizens.

 

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But basically, yeah, any little thing that they can do to drag one of our guys before the courts on some ridiculous charge. We’ve seen a lot of that lately. Tom is getting harassed by police who are trying to, right now, actually trying to put charges on him for leading a peaceful political rally down a street where no violent altercations occurred.

 

No one got hurt, no projectiles were thrown. Literally just marched down the street chanting, marched back, went home. Apparently, this is. They’re investigating him for the crime of, quote, “grossly offensive behavior”. So apparently, there’s a law now in the state of Victoria that grossly offensive behavior is a crime, whatever that means. So, apparently, if you’re in public and you have a political slogan that offends somebody that’s a crime.

 

But it’s not a crime if you’re a gay Mardi Gras and you’re dancing naked in front of children.

 

Lana Lokteff: That’s right.

 

Joel Davis: I might find that grossly offensive, but I’m a Nazi, so therefore doesn’t count for some reason.

 

So, yeah, it is pretty crazy! Like, the level of absurdity that they’re taking things. We have other associates who are also being dragged before the courts for, quote, unquote, “grossly offensive behavior”. I think in their instance, what happened was they had T-shirts on. The shirt was a chudjack*. If people don’t know what a chudjack is, I guess Google it. And it said “6 million. That’s a bit much, mate”, underneath the chudjack. And they were throwing Roman salutes.

 

[* Chudjack often represents people who are deemed “chuds.” What is a Chud? “Chud” is a slang term used online that generally refers to a dislikeable person. A chud is also someone who exists far outside social norms, and not in a good way.]

 

Now, Roman salutes are now illegal in Australia. You can go to jail for doing a Roman salute in public. That was laws that the jews really pushed for in response to us, basically, because previously, Tom in particular, was a very big fan of the Roman salute. Now we can’t do it. But unfortunately, Tom, do you do them?

 

Lana Lokteff: At home when you make coffee in the morning?

 

Thomas Sewell: I know that Jacob, her son, does them at home all the time. I’ve kind of got my technique down pat.

 

Lana Lokteff: Come on, we gotta have fun with this. My God! Can’t even have fun.

 

Thomas Sewell: I talk. Yeah, it’s spiritual. The reason why I was saying before, I’m not sure how deep we can go into this subject was very recently, Joel and I did interviews with Elijah Schaeffer, and I think that’s what stimulated him to make that post about police persecution, not just because of what happened to Michael Nelson, but also the largest chunk of the interview that I did with him was on police persecution.

 

So I don’t want to double up the subject too much because that will be released in the future. But I wasn’t sure if we could talk about it yet, because Elijah was trying to get out of Australia without being hassled by ASIO.

 

Because just talking to me in this country can cause you some issues. And the police do that on purpose. They can see that what we’re doing is working, that our meta-political strategy is effective, and that we are changing public discourse through inspiration, through passion, through courage, and just being able to go against the grain, to go against the flow of this communist aversion, and to just be a symbol of standing up to that and not bowing down to that.

 

And as you put in these photos up, these young guys here are in our organization.

 

Lana Lokteff: And he just had his bank account banned, too, right? The guy on the left?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, he did. The guy on the left. Yep.

 

And those two young guys, they came to me. They’ve been involved for over two years now, and about twelve months of them being involved in the organization, they actually came to me.

 

And one of them tried to fly somewhere, or he tried to go somewhere.

 

I can’t remember what the exact circumstance was, but he was told by someone within the bureaucracy of the government that he was a national security threat, that he was defined as an., … One of his brothers is in the army, one of them, their brother is in the army, and their brother had to basically disassociate from them because they’re a national security threat. And these were just guys that were coming down to the park, and we were just training. We were doing push ups at the park. We were going for a run.

 

Lana Lokteff: That’s right. Didn’t you have a boxing fitness club, too? And they were worried about it because they’re okay, because you could start a military with that, right? Guys, White guys working out and being able to defend themselves.

 

I mean, they’re freaking out about the caveat.

 

Joel Davis: We would never try.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re freaking out for many reasons. But to clarify, that list of Schaffer’s things, that list is basically all the things that I covered in that interview.

 

So, yeah, that I think it’s very important for people to realize that strength creates strength in others. And when there’s a symbol of a man, it’s not even the man himself, but when a symbol of a man stands up.

 

And that’s why the Roman salute was so significant.

 

And that’s why I love the Roman salute so much. Because every time I went to court and they were trying to make me out like I was evil and horrible because I defended myself or defended those that I cared about, they always try to make it out like I was a shameful, horrible character. And they would always take photos of me when I was walking out of the corridor. They would wait for me to start talking, and then they would get, like, managed to get a screen grab. They would even use photos that they took. They would use screen grabs from the videos of me, like, mid sentence going, like, classic.

 

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Lana Lokteff: Yeah. You know they want to make you look bad. That’s their joke.

 

Thomas Sewell: The most kind of disgusting form of journalism. Yeah, I love that image. That’s a great painting. And then I realized, like, you can’t just be reasonable and rational with these people. You can sit there and have the most articulate and intellectual and polite conversation about why you believe what you believe, and they’ll just screen grab your face in a contorted manner, put that up, and then put this, like, doom and gloom caption over who you are. And I was just like, fuck it. It’s mask off. Every time I go to court, I’m just throwing a Roman!

 

I’m just going to stand there and then, and I’ll take a photo of that. And I worked out that that will be what the photo they’ll use. They’ll use that because that’s so horrible from their perspective. But what I believe that it did to the discourse was, so many people are afraid of journalists. They’re afraid of the confrontation. They’re afraid of being shamed.

 

And I see the media and its smear campaign similar to, you’re in a village. I like to condense everything down to 100 people and think of a village mindset and understand what dynamic is going on in that tribe or that village, and how is that affecting the village. And then can you expand that philosophy or that microcosm into the macrocosm of 100 million people, or a billion people? And I saw this smear campaign, this doxxing from journalists and online Antifa and stuff, as just, they want to parade you through the town and throw rotten vegetables at you.

 

And if you kind of cower and hide your face, no, you don’t want to do that you know, if you do stuff like that, then, then you deserve the tomatoes. You deserve the rotten tomatoes. And the public:

 

“Yeah, look at this coward. Look at this shameful character. Let’s throw the cabbages at his head!”

 

And:

 

“Oh, that hurt him. That affected him.”

 

But if you just stand there and throw a Roman salute, they can throw as many tomatoes as they want, eventually going to stop throwing tomatoes. You’re like, these tomatoes aren’t working. This guy, you can’t shame this guy, no matter how much you throw your crap at him. It’s just like, you’re just a crap thrower. You’re just a craft throw. And all these doxes and Antifas and stuff. When we just say:

 

“Yes, okay, yes, I’m a Nazi. Yes, I’m a supremacist. Yes, I’m a whatever it is you think I’m sure, yes, absolutely!”

 

And you stand there and you’re fit and healthy, and you throw the Roman. It’s just, it just emanates. It’s a spiritual war.

 

And that’s why the jews had to ban it. The jews saw my strategy, like, inspired all these young kids started throwing out. I was, after I was taking photos, after I had the photo taken of the Roman salute like that, and after we had a few rallies and were throwing the Roman salute at the rally, I would just drive past on my way home from work, and there would be like, year twelve kids in their blazes at the bus stop waiting for a bus, and I’ll be at the lights and I just throw a Roman at them. I would just throw a Roman at them because it wasn’t illegal at that point.

 

So I would just be like, as just a social experiment, I’d throw a Roman at them. Just healthy White footy boys, you know, footy boys in their school uniforms and sometimes girls as well with them. And I would throw a Roman and they would almost always throw it back and the girls would all giggle. And I’m just thinking of the, …

 

Lana Lokteff: Cause it’s fun because you’re not supposed to do it, right?

 

Joel Davis: Exactly!

 

Lana Lokteff: Come on! It’s the cookie jar syndrome.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And I would drive off at the lights. I would drive off and I look in the rearview mirror and there’d just be 18 year olds just throwing romans back at me.

 

And I was like:

 

“This is winning! This is what winning feels like! This is a Cultural Revolution!”

 

They’ve demonized it so much, but young kids, they’re just like:

 

“What’s wrong with it? Why can’t I do it? It feels good. It feels powerful to do it. You know, we’re not getting in our hands and knees and praying. We’re standing upright and throwing it!”

 

And so powerful.

 

Joel Davis: And so now in Australia, they blur out the arms like, as if, like it’s like genitals or something. So, like today you see arms, like, they’ll get this picture, they’ll put it up on the news and they’ll blur every single.

 

Lana Lokteff: We all know what it is. I mean, come on!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I know. It’s crazy! Crazy! Like, as if there’s going to be jews at home. If they see those arms, they’re going to be like:

 

“Oh, God! And we have to protect them from that horrible experience and, like, blur it out!”

 

It’s insane!

 

Thomas Sewell: So now it’s twelve months in jail. Twelve months!

 

Lana Lokteff: Holy crap!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And $20,000 fine.

 

Lana Lokteff: I mean, migrant rapists don’t even get that, you know?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, exactly! Well, when I was at court last, there was an African that had raped sexually, seriously, sexually assaulted five women while on bail. And he had run through people’s homes with machetes. And he was sentenced to twelve months and he was released early at six months.

 

I mean, this happens every day. And he wasn’t on the news, but I was on the news.

 

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Lana Lokteff: Yeah. And didn’t you get into some confrontation with a guy who happened to be black?

 

And then what was he got six months of jail time and like a hardcore prison, is that correct?

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s close to correct.

 

Lana Lokteff: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: There was two. There was two incidences within a period of about a month of each other, and one of them was Channel Nine, which is like the main.

 

Lana Lokteff: Oh, yes, I remember.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. They put up a video. They put up on a current affair episode, which is kind of like a real crappy version of 60 minutes.

 

And they also run 60 minutes here in Australia.

 

So whatever the channel is in America that runs 60 minutes, Channel Nine is the equivalent of that channel. And they ran a segment basically saying that we were terrorists next door because we were training and because we were hiking and we were basically like the White Taliban and we were about to commit a terror attack.

 

So I went down to Channel nine to just confront them and say, this is like, interview me, have a conversation, and I’ll tell the Australian public what we’re doing and why we’re doing it.

 

Lana Lokteff: There’s the blur! There’s the blur! Yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And so instead of doing that, they just ignored me. They just said:

 

“No, we’re not interested in talking to you. Go away.”

 

And so I started making a speech at the front, and then they moved us on. So we walked outside and I started making a speech out the front of the building in the public.

 

And then the security guard, the African security guard who was looking for a fight, he was very, very jarred up, very jacked up because he could hear what I was talking about.

 

And so when these people are confronted in this state, they become immediately aggressive. You know how Africans are. You guys live in America.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: So.

 

And then he moved us on again. So we complied and moved on again.

 

And as we’re moving to this, like, arbitrary line, the Drano line is what it’s called, the Drano line. Wherever the Drano line is, we’re moving to the Drain O line, which is like 30 or 40 meters away from the building, the African starts dancing kind of like the George Floyd dance. Have you seen the video of George Floyd with the banana before he got killed?

 

Lana Lokteff: Yes. Yes, I did.

 

Thomas Sewell: Where he’s like.

 

Lana Lokteff: That was like.

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s like, in the supermarket and he’s like doing this monkey dance.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, he really.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, it’s like cosmic and spiritual because this guy started doing the same dance. It was like he was cosmically attuned with the George Floyd.

 

And so he started doing the monkey dance in front of Jacob. And Jacob, being the shit stirrer that he is, said:

 

“All right, dance monkey!”

 

Which is a famous song by a chick called Tones. She’s like a fat dyke.

 

But anyway, that was like one of those popular songs of that month, I think. It was like, dance with me, dance with me. Dance for me. And that was playing, like, constantly. It was like, just cosmic. It was just in the was in the ether, you see. And this guy starts doing the George Floyd monkey dance. And then it’s like, dance for me. Dance for me. And then Jacob just said:

 

“Yeah, all right. Dance for me. Like, dance monkey!”

 

And then he got all aggressive and he was like:

 

“I’m not your dance monkey!”

 

And then he throat punched Jacob. Just full, just left hand stretched out, throat punched him. And I’m standing like maybe 2 meters away.

 

And you can see the CCTV footage. I don’t know if you’ve got a copy of it, but you might want to play it for you, for your guys, but for me, sort of, …

 

Joel Davis: Have the negro get bashed for everyone to see. It’s good. It’s good viewing.

 

Thomas Sewell: It is good viewing. It’s very good viewing because I copped a lot of flack from it, from the kind of softer types that are like:

 

“Oh, my God, Tom is a maniac! He’s a barbarian. Tom, he’s not fit for leadership because look at how he reacted and look at how he behaved in this instance.”

 

And it’s like, yeah, yeah, I’m a defender of the folk. I’m a fighter. I’m a defender. People like:

 

“I’m polite, I’m respectful, I’m peaceful, I’m lawful.”

 

But if you put your hands on us, if you put your hands on me, if you put your hands on people that I care about, I’m putting you down. I’m going to put you down or I’m going to die. It’s just one or the other. I’m going to assert dominance, I’m going to be over the top of you, or I’m going to die in the process. But there’s no in between. For me, it’s zero or 100! I’ll be polite, I’ll be respectful, I’ll be lawful.

 

But this is how I feel about the government. They’re trying to hurt us. They’re terrorizing us, they’re attacking us. They’re allowing us to be firebombed. They’re hurting us.

 

So it’s like, they’re not taking down the government. Absolutely not! The government’s working to destroy us. They want to silence.

 

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Joel Davis: That’s another story that we should probably mention, by the way, with another associate of ours. His name’s Tim Lutz. He actually ran a boxing gym and had us all training there until they basically took his boxing gym away from him for his association with us.

 

But anyway, he had been harassed by Antifa many times due to his, well, he’s part of the organization. He’s one of the leaders of the organization.

 

And anyway, the end of last year, he wakes up to an explosion. Him, in bed next to his pregnant wife, goes outside.

 

And basically his car had been blown up in the driveway by communist terrorists. Naturally. Yeah. Thankfully, they didn’t, … They were trying to blow up the other car, I believe, as well.

 

And basically the Molotov cocktail didn’t function correctly, it could have been far worse. They could have potentially set fire to the house with his children and his pregnant wife.

 

Lana Lokteff: Let me guess, there was no terrorist investigationx Police did.

 

Joel Davis: There was absolutely no investigation whatsoever for an act of terror! But apparently we’re terrorists and 50% of the anti-terrorism police budget has to go on surveilling us!

 

But then when actual terrorists attack us, somehow they don’t have any resources to investigate that.

 

Lana Lokteff: Well, that’s their whole plan in this anti-White establishment. Yeah. We have zero protections. Yeah. Here’s this in the video. Right, of Thomas there. So you went to jail, Thomas, for., … Was it for this?

 

Thomas Sewell: So what they did was they raided our house, they stole all our electronics, and they bailed me because I have no criminal history. And because the way the Australian bail laws work is if you have very little or no criminal history and it’s a first offense, you’re basically guaranteed bail. Unless it’s like a murder, or a terror attack, you’re basically guaranteed bail. So I got bailed for that.

 

And then about a month later, while I was on bail, we were out in the bush. We were doing one of our hikes. We do hikes almost every month, at least every second month. And we’re on a hike and we were ambushed by. There was a conspiracy by Channel Nine.

 

So the same people that were calling us terrorists had actually paid a private contractor to infiltrate our group to pretend to be a racist. Well, he didn’t have to pretend he was a racist. He was kind of old truckie guy, and he actually worked as a trucker. So we did vet this guy. There was really not much we could do about someone at this level of professionality. We ticked every box that we could and he was exactly who we said he was. But what we didn’t know was on the side.

 

He actually worked as a subcontractor and was hired by Channel Nine to disrupt our group. And he was organizing with Antifa and with ASIO. So he was meeting with journalists, he was meeting with Antifa and he was meeting with ASIO to disrupt our organization. And they had ASIO in the bushes waiting for us. They had counter terrorism follow us up there. There was a whole bunch of Antifa that knew we were at that, where we parked our cars. And they have a habit of attacking our cars. About two weeks earlier, they damaged Jacob’s car, my car, at our address.

 

So obviously they got that from this informant. He had passed on that information as to where our address was and where our cars were so that they could continue their pressure on us.

 

And then there was an incident in this park. These people followed us. They were filming us when someone confronted them and asked them to just leave us alone. They then got in their vehicle and actually ran over some of these young guys.

 

And then a whole discourse erupted after they ran over a bunch of guys and crashed into a rock. And they almost killed me or potentially put me in like a wheelchair because I almost got crushed between the car and the rock, only to jump out of the way.

 

And so this is like, I was looking at this and I was like, this is like an inverse version of, who’s the guy? Charlottesville. The guy doing like 190 years for like, trying to get his car out of there when he got mobbed by like 50 people. It’s kind of like an opposite version of that, where the roles are half reversed.

 

And anyway, that’s what these people did to us. My car was damaged in the process, so obviously things were going on there. The address that we were at, the exact car park, was leaked online.

 

So all the Antifa organizers were posting online and in the comments section of these leaks. Not leaks, but these posts were just all these Antifa activists saying:

 

“Oh, you know, it’d be ashamed if someone went down there and fired bombed these cars or slashed their tires.”

 

We had our tires slashed and I had a, like an impact driver, like a drill put through my tire, which is a common tactic of theirs. We have them on CCTV doing that.

 

Anyway, that all happened. And in that process, a couple of us were pretty badly injured. And about two days later, we got back to the house and we just said that was fucking out of control. You know, this is obviously escalating what the system is doing to us. We had a big meeting about it.

 

And anyway, about two days later, they sent the helicopter, the SWAT team, the Bearcat. They sent like the big armored vehicles and came in and kicked our doors in and pointed the machine guns at our families as you do.

 

And then they held me without bail for seven months.

 

The reason why they said that I couldn’t get bail even though I had been convicted of no crimes, was that they said I was making threats to the victims over the prison phones, and they never played those recordings in court. And it was a lie. The Counter Terrorism police are a political police, and they lied to the courts, openly lied to the courts to say that I was doing that they never provided the evidence that I was doing that.

 

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And what I was doing over the phone was the guys back at the headquarters were calling me.

 

So I was calling them and they were saying that we’ve found these social media of the Antifa guys that were at the park, and they’re all friends with these other main culprit people, and they’re friends on Facebook with the people that firebombed the informant’s car because they damaged the informant’s car and trailer about a week earlier. And we had that on CCTV. We hadn’t gone to the police because we didn’t operate like that. But we were building an information picture on these people, who they were, you know what schools they went to, what universities they went to, and their associates and their friends.

 

So we’re building an information picture on these people. And I was just saying over the phone, I said:

 

“Okay, like, screenshot everything and send it to my lawyer. Screenshot everything, send it to my lawyer, because we’ll expose all of this in court.”

 

And they said that that was threatening witnesses to screenshot the people that had firebombed our vehicles, to screenshot their Facebooks and to send those photos to my lawyer to expose this whole thing for what it was in court, in open court, that was threatening the witnesses. So they did everything they could to prevent us building a defense. They did everything they could to keep me in jail for seven months in solitary confinement. I was put in the Supermax.

 

So I was put in a punishment ward of Port Phillip prison, which is probably the worst prison in Australia. And I was put in the punishment, solitary confinement. The first six weeks I was in prison, I was basically in 24 hours lockdown. And in the remaining five months, I was in 23 hours lockdown, about five days a week, four days a week, 24 hours lockdown.

 

And they refused books and mail for several months. So I got no mail for about two and a half months, and I got no books for about five months. So they did everything they could to try to break me, and it didn’t work.

 

So here we are.

 

Lana Lokteff: It reminds me of the J six prisoners [Jan 6th], also in America. Same thing, guys that showed up to protest, right?

 

And then they get locked up in solitary confinement and tortured and starved and, like, yes, this is happening in our free societies, our democracy.

 

And then also what they did to.

 

Thomas Sewell: Me at nighttime was they wouldn’t let me sleep.

 

So when I was the first sort of six weeks I was in there, the Indian and African security guards would come in, and they would flip the lights on and off through the night. So they would do everything.

 

And then the White guards would come in the morning, I’d tell the White guards what had happened, and they’re just like:

 

“Oh, sorry, man. Oh and it’s like, this is unacceptable.”

 

Joel Davis: This is all for the crime of getting attacked by literal jewish communists. They were all jews. They were all gay jews.

 

Thomas Sewell: They were all gay jews.

 

Joel Davis: Gay jewish communists attacked him violently. Uh, you somewhat defended yourself, but, like, ultimately none of them were injured. Yeah, exactly! It wasn’t like no one got hurt. Like, they almost killed you or turned into a paraplegic, and then you get thrown in jail for eight months with a bunch of literal murderers. Everyone else around you, or all murderers, basically, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: I was the only one in the unit that wasn’t a murderer, or a terrorist.

 

Lana Lokteff: Oh, my God!

 

Thomas Sewell: See, that’s what I think is the funniest part. Here’s the funniest part is that they refused my run outs. They refused my run outs because you have to fill out a form to be able to run out and be in a cage. If you’ve seen that movie Shock Caller with that Jaime Lannister character from Game of Thrones, I can’t remember. He’s got, like, a Nordic name, or a Danish name or something. There’s that scene where he gets put in the Supermax, and then he’s locked in his cell the whole time, and then he gets, like, these, the run out yard. He’s like, putting a cage out in the open. It was actually worse than that. So imagine those cages, but then there’s concrete walls between them about 4 meters high, so barely any sun even comes in either. So at least they got, like, fresh open air. We were just kind of in the, it was like, just pigeonville. There was just pigeon shit everywhere. There was just hundreds of pigeons.

 

And it was dark and moldy, and the concrete walls were, like, 4 meters high. So even worse than if you watch Shock Caller. You know what I’m talking about?

 

And so you had to fill out a piece of paper to do run outs with other prisoners. And there was two White power gangs that were in that unit with me, and they were murderers. They were White guys that had just killed counts. And I was trying to run out with them so that I could have a social interaction because I hadn’t had an actual conversation in five months. And I got two run outs with these guys from the sort of skinhead gangs.

 

And then they removed my run outs off me because they were concerned for the good order of the prison. They were saying that if Tom runs out with these murderers, he’s going to radicalize them.

 

And so we can’t have these murderers running out with Tom. We have to keep Tom isolated. He’s not allowed.

 

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Lana Lokteff: So it’s not the murderers they’re worried about.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, there were terrorists, murderers, child rapists. And they can run out with each other. There was a run out where the child rapists would be out there, and all the prisoners would be screaming at them, just abusing them constantly.

 

And that’s how I know there were child rapists.

 

The child rapists were allowed to have friends. They were allowed to run out with each other. But a Whiteman that had two incidences of defending himself. Yeah, you got to segregate him from the yeah, you’ve got the you guys are great. You guys are so professional. Yeah, imagine that. But the cages that you can see. Imagine there’s like four meter concrete walls between them.

 

Lana Lokteff: It tells you what they view as their biggest threat. And it’s people that think like us and talk like us. That’s why they have no problem importing in murderers and rapists and thieves and all that. Right? Because they’re not really a threat to the system at the end of the day.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: What I said in the, … I’ll be very quick so we can change the topic. But what I said in the first podcast when I came out was I noticed that in the mainstream units, there was a lot of violence, a lot of ethnic violence, racial violence.

 

And a lot of the time it was White people that were the victims of this violence. And when White people were the victims, they were then segregated. So if the islanders controlled a unit, a mainstream unit like the Pacific Islanders, and they attacked, like, a group of White guys, and they won that fight, the White guys were then separated and segregated, so they were put in protection or isolation or moved to another unit, another mainstream unit. And this happened over and over again!

 

I heard stories of these things and then over the concrete wall and then when there was an incident where the opposite happened where a group of Islanders and Africans attacked a White kid and then a more powerful gang of White guys got “retribution”, we’ll call it, I won’t say exactly what happened, but they did what they needed to do and fucked some people up, allegedly.

 

And then what corrections did then was for the good order of the prison. They then segregated all the White guys in this group. So they didn’t know who did it. They didn’t know which one did it or which group of the group did it. But the whole group, the whole gang, they split up. So that painted a really clear picture to me that when Whites are the victims, they get double victimized. When Whites are the victims, the government will stomp you, the government will segregate you, the government will disempower you. But when Whites are the aggressor or when Whites are the victors, when we are winning, the government will stomp you, the government will segregate you. Like big daddy government comes in and it’s just like:

 

“No, you can’t do that. You’re not allowed to do that.”

 

So it doesn’t matter whether you win or lose, the government’s going to come in and treat you as horrible.

 

So if I had lost that fight against the African, I still would have been charged with assault and I would have been made out to be a loser on the television.

 

So what I tell people in our scene is if God puts you, if the universe or God, whatever you believe, puts you in a situation where you’re fighting for your life or you’re fighting for your honor, you’re fighting. If a sit like don’t look for these situations, but if you’re put in that situation, win, don’t lose! Win because you’re going to go to jail anyway, you’re going to get smeared anyway, you may as well look cool and tough, and the victor. And White people are so afraid of physical confrontation because they see on the media all these three guys in the US, they were, they confronted a robber in their house and they shot, killed them with a shotgun and now they’re in jail for life. And even the guy that filmed it. And there’s always like black pill stories like:

 

“Oh, look at what happened!”

 

And it’s like, but how many thousands of incidences have happened where the black robber kills the White person? You know?

 

So it’s like if God puts you in that situation, you’re fucked! You know? If God puts you in that situation, you’ll go into jail! Or you’re dying.

 

So it’s like you’re gonna lose in some way regardless. You may as well lose in style. You may as well lose on your own terms. Like, if you’re doing seven months in solitary, honestly, solitude is a blessing. In the chaos of the society that we live in, solitude is a blessing. You know, you get the noises of the jungle, but if you can tune out the noises of the jungle, it’s honestly a blessing. And it was the best seven months of my life. It sucked! But struggle is the father of all things, and I can’t wait to do it again. Not because I’m a Martyr, or a psychopath or, …

 

But it’s just like, if God puts me in this position again I’m going to do the exact same thing. And people are like:

 

“Tom, you don’t learn your lesson. You keep using your fists!”

 

Lana Lokteff: And it’s like, yeah, don’t put yourself in that situation where violence is going to rise, right? Don’t show up at some of these places, but eventually.

 

But eventually it might find you anyway, because that’s the world that we live in.

 

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Thomas Sewell: We can’t run away forever. And I’ve never looked for violence. I’ve never seeked violence, and but violence confronts you. And you have to make a decision sometimes between, do you live to fight another day? And I’m sure one day there will be a circumstance where I’m going to have to walk away from something. I’ll be like, hmm. Tactically, strategically and I can play the game. All right?

 

There’s been times we’ve been 40, 50 guys deep on the march, you know, we’re doing an activism, and the police have got the pepper spray out and they got the battons out, and it’s like, but there’s only ten police and there’s 50 of us. And I’m like:

 

“We could thump these cops right now. We could absolutely thump them. We could smash these cops. So easy right now. This is going to be awesome!”

 

And then I’ve made the call. Instead of smashing the cops, I’ve been like:

 

“Let’s live to fight another day!”

 

It will demoralize everyone a little bit. Everyone will be upset that we didn’t get to bash the police, but we’ll just walk away. We’ll just walk away. We’ll just move on. We know it’s unlawful, we know it’s against our rights and everything, but we’ll just walk away and we’ll get a bit bigger and we’ll come back again. They’ll do the same thing. We’ll walk away, we’ll come back again, and one day we’re going to be bigger than the state. And when we are, then we’re not walking away. But until then, we’ll play the game.

 

So I can play the game. I’m not a strategic idiot, but when I’m faced with violence, when someone physically attacks me, I’m going to defend myself.

 

Lana Lokteff: So do you think some of that is also an Australian, like a cultural thing? Because when I was down there, it seemed like, no. Are they pretty neutered down there now? They’re not their rough and tough criminal elements anymore.

 

Thomas Sewell: I don’t believe in the stereotyping. I think that I have more in common with a man of hot blood, a Whiteman of hot blood. In America or in Sweden, everyone goes:

 

“Oh, Sweden’s cucked or England’s cucked or America’s cucked!”

 

Or it’s like there’s just a lot of cucks everywhere.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And there’s only a few fighters. And I identify with the White fighters!

 

Lana Lokteff: Well, and they want men to be cucked. I mean, isn’t Australia. They’re creating a bureau of men’s behavior, right, to target guys to not become far-Right nationalists, right, to not become real men.

 

Joel Davis: They had a whole controversy here because there were these kids in high school who had a Discord server, like a private, which is a for those who don’t know what, Discord server is, basically a private chat app.

 

The other people that can see it are people that you invite in.

 

And so it’s basically their private chat. And they had a rating system for the other girls of their high school. You know, they had, like, “wifeys” at the top, then they had “cuties”, they had “mids”, and they had “objects”. And then I think the bottom was “unrapable”.

 

So I think I’m missing one.

 

But anyway, it was just this goofy., … They’re like 14 year old boys, some goofy thing that they’re doing. Somehow it got leaked, it got exposed, and it became a national news story that this is an “epidemic of misogyny”. We talked about it on our show, actually, and I said:

 

“Well, they’re clearly not misogynist. They’ve got people and they got wifeys, they got cuties, they’ve got all these positive, you know, female ratings. So, I mean, they clearly like some women.”

 

But anyway the point is that it’s just so ridiculous! Like, why is this news? And all these kids got expelled from the school and the principals getting interviewed on national news?:

 

“Oh, stamping out misogyny! We’ve got to address the culture and all this!”

 

I mean, it’s just absurd!

 

Meanwhile, you’ve got an epidemic of violence against women perpetrated by black women. Multiple in that same week, there was multiple instances of black women gang bashing young White girls. You have a month before that, you had a White grandma getting stabbed to death in front of her six year old granddaughter by a bunch of African criminals who then stole her car. You’ve got, obviously, we know that the non-White Africans and Arabs and so on way disproportionately guilty of rape.

 

So if you want to talk about violence against women or something that actually matters, not like some stupid rating system about which girls they like or don’t like at high school, but something that actually matters.

 

No, the news suppresses these stories! The news won’t report on them on the evening news properly. They’ll cover up. The same way that they blur out the Roman salute, they’ll blur out the criminal so that you can’t see what race they are.

 

Because they know that if they put that story front and center to the Australian people, everyone is obviously going to think racist thoughts. White people are going to see. Look at what these blacks have done:

 

“Look at what these Arabs have done to this defenseless White girl or White grandma. That’s horrifying! We need to get these people out of our country!”

 

So, yeah, they’re just total frauds! I mean, obviously, everyone watching this understands that, but it’s just fucking disgusting how fraudulent these people are!

 

And meanwhile, you’ve got the state., … Like, we were talking about Elijah Shaffer before he interviewed me on his show. The media does hit pieces against him about how racist he is and how horrible he is because he interviewed a neo-Nazi. Then apparently, he’s married to an Australian woman. So he was getting his Visa approved as a man who’s married to an Australian citizen to live here.

 

Now, his lawyers getting:

 

“ASIO are looking into your application now.”

 

So now his son is born in Australia. His wife is Australian. Now they’re trying to think about maybe deporting him, and freaking him.

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s amazing how quick they can deport a White guy when they’re a nationalist.

 

Joel Davis: Right, exactly!

 

Lana Lokteff: Amazing how quick they can mobilize for that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

So this is what the state and the media are prioritizing. You know Tom gets dragged before the court and they’ve got to get the snapshot of neo-Nazi and so on.

 

These are the stories, but why aren’t they sticking the camera in the face of Arab rapists or Pacific Islander murderers?

 

Thomas Sewell: Indian sex pests. Every time I go to court, half of one of the floors, it’s obviously the sex pest level. There’s like six layers to the court.

 

And one of the layers, one of the floors is obviously sex pestery. They keep them isolated and they’re all Indians. They’re like all Indians. Like, it’ll be minimum 50%.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, well, I’ve been to India as a teenager. I know how they treat White girls over there!

 

Thomas Sewell: And you will see maybe once a year, you will see once a year there’ll be some heinous crime against a White girl that’s put on television. But, like, cockroaches for everyone, you see, there’s like hundreds of thousands you don’t see. And these happen daily. Like, every White girl that I’ve ever met in Australia has a story about an Indian attempt at the rape or Indian attempt sex pestery. You know they’re just fucking disgusting!

 

Lana Lokteff: Well, hopefully this is sinking in that some of these girls are thinking racially, like, hey:

 

“It’s not these White Aussie guys!”

 

Right? And that brings me to. Yeah, go on.

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry to interrupt, but you asked me a question quite earlier in the show about the general attitude of Australians, and that’s what I was trying to get to.

 

In conclusion, they’re seeing such a huge increase in being negatively affected themselves. They personally are suffering now. And now that they’re personally on the receiving end, whether it be through social and cultural factors like sex pestery, whether it be through seeing just the amount of home invasions and being personally affected by the amount of home invasions, whether it be not being able to afford a home or be involved in a home, seeing this stuff is radicalizing the average White Australian that’s not a communist freak.

 

To believing the following statement:

 

“I don’t necessarily agree with the Hitler stuff, but I support everything that you say.”

 

And every White person I’ve met that’s not a communist freak, in the last couple years, every single one has said to me, if they’re in the movement, then obviously they like the Hitler stuff. But every other White person I’ve met says:

 

“Tom, I agree with everything that you say. I’ve noticed everything that you say. I don’t disagree with any of it. I just don’t understand the Hitler stuff.”

 

Lana Lokteff: So is it doing a disservice? Okay. No? What’s your response?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no, it’s not.

 

No, my response is always:

 

“You will understand. In time, you’ll understand that all of this ends from World War Two. Our nations have been subverted and destroyed!”

 

Obviously there’s a general decline prior to World War Two. I won’t get too esoteric and go too deep with the average person, but obviously there’s a general cyclical history and stuff. And people, like, their eyes start to wander off when you bring up, like, a 2,000 year civilizational cycle. Rah, rah, rah. But you can. But everyone knows Hitler. Everyone knows World War Two. And you can put that as the apex of our civilization or our society starting to collapse, the beginning of the end.

 

And so what I tell people is what Hitler was dealing with and what the Germans were dealing with in the thirties was what we call the Weimar Republic in the twenties and early thirties. And they came to power because Germany was so corrupted and destroyed and subverted by jews, and they made a humiliation and mockery of their people and they, …

 

Lana Lokteff: Impoverished them, introduced transsexualism and sex change operations. That’s the books they were burning, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And then I say, that is exactly what we’re going through now. We’re going through “Global Weimar”.

 

And so we need a 1933 style solution to the 1933 problem, you know.

 

Lana Lokteff: And updated versus worse, actually.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it is worse because we need, …

 

Joel Davis: We need to become like, we need to go beyond the 1933 solution, in my view. I don’t think the 1933 solution is even enough. That’s the thing. That’s also why it’s important, I think, to not back down on. It’s not about ideologically dotting all your P’s and Q’s, about being a perfect National Socialist, in my view.

 

What matters, though, is the fighting spirit. What Hitler and the Nazis represent in the mass consciousness ultimately is the Whiteman having enough and just fighting back, taking control and reasserting himself. That’s basically what it means in the mass consciousness.

 

The mass consciousness doesn’t know all the nuances about this or that policy that the Third Reich may have had. And those things, we should study them, but they aren’t of central importance. What is of central importance is the idea that we’re not taking this shit anymore. It’s not enough to agree that, oh, yes, you know, Tom’s experience is like my experience. So many people I talked to are like:

 

“Yes, you know, Joel, what you say is true when you talk about the problems of immigration and non-Whites and rants about Indians and rants about blacks and so on, even about the jews.”

 

But then they just go on living a normal life. They don’t have a fire lit within them, like, is lit within me or within Tom or within other people that are actually committed to the movement, where they’re willing to actually put their life on the line to fight. And that’s the difference.

 

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It’s not just about intellectually agreeing that there’s an anti-White agenda and knowing all the talking points and knowing how it’s. That the news is lying to you or whatever it’s about, what are you going to fucking do about it?

 

And what Hitler and the swastika and so on represents is doing something about it. That’s what it represents. And when they attack the militancy of the movement, when they attack the optics of the movement and so on, what people are basically attacking is the energy.

 

We want to keep the mass marketable talking points, the agreeable aspects of the movement. We want to make it seem less scary. We want to make it seem like no one’s going to actually have to do anything except vote harder and have polite discussions, and we’re going to have this safe and optical version of addressing White genocide and defeating global jury and reasserting White power. And that just isn’t realistic.

 

Lana Lokteff: It’s not that easy.

 

Joel Davis: It isn’t how.

 

Lana Lokteff: I mean, that’s not how it’s going.

 

Joel Davis: To fight for it.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, I mean, I get the idea of I mean, I look at nationalism, the strides that we have made even over the last five years. We’ve been covering these topics for ten years, and things we were talking about ten years ago now are trending on X, you know, about banned ADL, jewish supremacy, all the anti-White talking points. It’s essentially going mainstream. And there’s a broader range of Right-wing folks, including normie conservatives, who are coming onto our page about some of these things. I know, Joel, you’ve been making the rounds, talking and debating with different people.

 

So, you know, we have to stay on these people. But, and I know it’s important to mainstream for broad appeal, which is necessary. It’s already happening. But simultaneously, you need that kind of edgy undercurrent that’s pushing the discussion further because we were the edgy undercurrent that was pushing the mainstream into this discussion. Right?

 

So I think it takes all personalities in different facets to strike at different times. Maybe a little ruthless and crazy is good, but so is class and self control at different times. You need a bit of it, I think, at all different levels of the war.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, right.

 

Joel Davis: The Whiteman is demoralized. We need to moralize the Whiteman in the sense that, like, there’s a lot of “learned helplessness”. There’s a lot of black pilling. There’s a lot of people that know what the problem is, and it doesn’t inspire them to act. It doesn’t inspire them to wake up every morning. It has the opposite effect. It makes them depressed. It makes them want to turn away from politics. It makes them into a bitter human being.

 

And so the problem is spiritual. The problem isn’t about what facts they understand. The problem isn’t intellectual. It isn’t ideological. The problem is a lack of willpower, fortitude, courage, sacrifice, honor. And so reawakening these values is a kind of spiritual operation that is entirely distinct from spreading political talking points. That is something that I’ve come to terms with over the last few years and probably explains for those people who have seen me around.

 

Maybe the difference is me recognizing that I was kind of drawing certain conclusions from information, but that everyone doesn’t draw the same conclusions. And that you actually have to address the process by which you draw conclusions, not just the conclusions themselves or the basis of conclusions themselves.

 

In other words, the overarching view of the average person is the system is run by politicians that don’t give a fuck about us! They’re all corrupt. They’re all pieces of shit! I hate the political class. They’re screwing us over. Immigration is bad and so on.

 

What can you do about it? There’s nothing I can do about it. There’s nothing anyone can do about it. I guess we’ll just try and make money and have a family and do our best. That’s basically the average view. Those people don’t need to really have it explained to them much further about how bad the political class is and, you know how anti-White the system is and so on.

 

A lot of them pretty much agree. Obviously we need that.

 

But what they need is someone to give them. Someone needs to make them believe that we can do something about it.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah. They need to be inspired.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. That actually has the willpower to generate a reaction that is powerful enough to do something.

 

Lana Lokteff: Well, that’s why I like this trend of repatriation. They have to go back. Massive deportation like this is the only solution. So while the mainstream is picking up a lot of our talking points, even from ten years ago, now we need to push it even, you know, further to the Right of:

 

“No, we can’t tolerate all these people. They need to go back. If they came between this and this period, that’s it! Repatriation!”

 

So do you guys think that normalizing the idea of mass deportations is probably one of the most important things that we can do right now?

 

Thomas Sewell: Don’t you think?

 

Lana Lokteff: I mean, we need our demographics and check number one, right? Everything else was second.

 

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Joel Davis: In political discourse. It is the number one issue. I actually got into some debates. Obviously, I’m an anti -semite, but I got into some debates with people who I’m friends with, who think that we need to focus entirely upon anti-semitism as like the first principle of politics you mentioned before, people talking about jewish supremacy. The problem that I have with this is they talk about jewish supremacy like, as if the problem with jewish supremacy is supremacy rather than that it’s jewish. Like, as if White supremacy would be a problem, like supremacy itself is the problem. There’s this kind of residual egalitarianism that is implicit in that kind of discourse.

 

This idea that all jews think that they’re better than everybody else and that they should have their own state where they are their own ethno-state where they’re in control, and they think that they should run the banks and the media. And who the hell do they think they are? No one should be in charge. No, we should be running the banks and the media and have our own state and be ethnically cleansing people who want to live in our territory, actually.

 

And then I got called a White Zionist by some of these people, as if that’s supposed to be an insult. Like, what movement are we in? I’m a White supremacist.

 

The idea that you want White people.

 

Lana Lokteff: To be supreme in their countries. Yes, yes, of course.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. It’s as supreme as possible. That’s what I want. The idea of supremacy is fundamentally good and noble. It’s the idea that some people are better than others, and that therefore, people who are better than others should have a requisite status conferred upon them for that superiority. Egalitarianism is the idea that everyone should have the same status, no matter how much better they are than others. And often it goes even further than that and says:

 

“Well, the only reason why some people can be seen to be better than others. Is because of unfair distributions of status.”

 

It completely reverses the relationship between nature and society.

 

The idea that society determines nature, other than nature determining society. I believe in the natural, organic society. I believe in the organic state, a natural way of life. That’s why I’m a supremacist. And everyone is a micro supremacist in the entire world. Like, if you need to get surgery, you need to get, like, your kidney removed or something, or kidney surgery. You’re a surgeon supremacist. You want the best possible surgeon who’s got all this experience and has a degree. You don’t want some guy who would like to be a surgeon really bad! And it’s not fair that you’re discriminating against him because he sucks at surgery and has no idea what he’s doing. Or when you want to marry someone, you become a supremacist. You’re not going to marry a fat chick just because it wouldn’t be fair that she doesn’t get to marry you because she’s fat. That would be absurd, right? Sorry to all the guys at home that are married to fat chicks.

 

But the point is that everyone’s a micro supremacist.

 

But then when we expand out to the political level, apparently now it’s totally ridiculous to say that supremacy should be the organizing principle for society. Even though egalitarianism is retarded on every other level. All of a sudden, at the largest and most important level, now, all of a sudden, all the values get reversed. And people say:

 

“Well, Joel, you know, you’re right. >But the thing is that that’s not very optical. People aren’t going to want to hear that message because it’s kind of extreme.”

 

And so we have to basically argue that the pro-White position is actually the real form of egalitarianism. Like, as if egalitarianism isn’t. The very core of the reason why the White race is in the position that it’s in is because we have degraded ourselves. We stop seeing ourselves as superior, and therefore we stop Guarding ourselves against the inferior. Like, as Nietzsche said:

 

“The strong must be protected from the weak.”

 

If you’re if you’re a gardener, you’re growing and you’ve got beautiful flowers or you’re growing vegetables or whatever, the number one priority that you have, other than making sure that it gets all the nutrients and water and so on, sunlight that it needs is getting, keeping the weeds out.

 

If you just allow all the weeds to fester and to fill up and take from the space and resources that enables your garden to grow, your plants won’t reach their full potential and on a long enough timeline they will die. And that’s the White race is like a garden and we’re not weeding it. And we stopped weeding it because we came to say:

 

“Oh, there’s no difference between a weed and a flower.”

 

That’s at the core of the problem. Until we can actually talk about that in a direct way, we will not address it.

 

So to me that’s why I think we need a more muscular rhetoric. We need people with a kind of romanticism, a kind of type of mindset to go:

 

“I’m going to basically stake my claim on the full truth and put it, basically be willing to die on that hill. I’m not going to have a marketing strategy where I try and adapt my worldview into a kind of a neat set of like rhetorical points that comport well with what people already believe.”

 

No, the problem is that what people already believe is wrong. It needs to be totally destroyed.

 

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The problem is that the average White person is weak, lazy, unspirited. They don’t believe in themselves and they’re nowhere near racist enough and they’re nowhere near supremacist enough. And that’s what we have to address. We have to make them believe in themselves and believe in these ideas. Otherwise we won’t win. No one’s going to fight for the White race unless they truly, no non-White supremacist is going to do what needs to be done. You have to be a White supremacist to go:

 

“Hey, look at all these millions of people, and many of them are families and some of them are nice people and they quite like it here, actually. We’re going to kick them all out, we’re going to round them up and we’re going to remove them forcefully, which will probably be necessary from our country.”

 

And by the way, we’re going to have a lot of Leftists, a lot of traitors and so on to round up as well. There’s going to be a lot of brutality necessary to fix the absolutely decrepit situation our civilization is in. And you’re not going to have the wherewithal to support and act out what needs to be done unless you have that level of conviction.

 

So to me, we have to go all the way. That’s why I’m going to defend Hitler. That’s why I call myself a White supremacist.

 

And that’s why I think it’s actually good optics. I think Hitler’s actually really cool. I think supremacy is actually more like. The most famous philosopher in the modern world is Friedrich Nietzsche. He’s, like the only philosopher everyone knows what his name is and what is his philosophy. It’s basically supremacism.

 

So this idea that supremacism isn’t cool or interesting and people don’t want to hear about it, or that no one wants to hear about Hitler, it’s just wrong. It’s actually really interesting.

 

Lana Lokteff: I think it’s inching in that direction. I think, again, you’re young, you got that fresh energy, you’re cutting edge, and I think its heading more in that direction where things are going to be opening up. You just got to keep on it. That’s what I mean. Topics that we know are mainstreaming, we have to get them to go even farther to the Right. Thomas, what do you think?

 

Thomas Sewell: I like the term that’s been popularized recently about “ratchet theory”. And I don’t believe that any metaphor is perfect. There’s no metaphor that’s perfect. We all just use different terms to try to create a picture in people’s mind as to how were behaving in different planes. And I like the fact that what we were saying in the movement ten years ago is now the mainstream discourse of anyone right of center and Joel and myself and other people that are leading factors within the movement here in Australia and I hope globally as well.

 

What we’re looking at is everyone’s playing catch up to us. Politics is ruled by the minority or by the extreme, if you want to call it that. We’re the extreme Right. We’re the far-Right, if that’s how they want to put it. You know, ten years ago, 15 years ago, the whole tranny agenda, the whole transsexual freak show, was in these tiny little subReddits and tumblr and stuff. And it was just like these radical communists in these little echo chambers talking about how to get estrogen and how to cut their dicks off. And now the federal government in your country and mine are protecting the rights of jewish doctors to cut dicks off children and to prescribe hormones.

 

So politics is always moved by the extremes.

 

This idea that just hug the center and shift the center over a bit. We know that that’s not how politics works.

 

And anyone that’s still trying to do that, they’re kind of wasting their energy, because why would you sit on the fulcrum if you are a polit, if you have political agency and there’s a seesaw of politics, and we can see there’s a seesaw, even though a lot of people say it’s not Left and Right, it’s pro-White and anti-White. Yeah, okay, okay, whatever. Right? Let’s say you’re right. There’s a seesaw. There’s a fulcrum in the middle where all the White is all of society. 98% of society is in the middle. That’s a fact. 1% are these freaks, and 1% are Nazis. So Adolf Hitler says, in mein Kampf, I think, chapter two, he says, all my life, I have only come across three types of people, the fighters, the lukewarm, and the traitors.

 

So what he’s saying is the Nazis, the normies, or whatever your term, you want to call it, and the jew communist transsexual freaks.

 

So all of the weight is already in the middle. And the way we move the fulcrum or the Overton Window, or however you want to look at it from a political strategy, is from the extreme.

 

And so if the majority of the population that’s on the right-hand side of the fulcrum are already starting to lean towards our energy, now, ultimately, we’re not trying to shift the fulcrum. We’re trying to split the thing in half. We don’t want to live with transsexuals. We don’t want to live with traitors. We don’t want to live with freaks.

 

And that’s another important discourse that people need to understand in the Right-wing, if we’re going to call it that we’re not looking to live in a happy, harmonious society with people that think it’s normal to cut the genitals of children. We want to prosecute these people, and we want to legalize the execution of them. That’s what we want to do. Because they shouldn’t exist. They shouldn’t breathe oxygen in the same space that we live in. And worst case scenario, we just live in two different societies.

 

But ideally, we prosecute these people and we send them to hell because they’re disgusting, evil, like, they’re the most evil, immoral freaks that have ever existed in the existence of any life form. What kind of disgusting creature wants to mutilate the genitals of their own children like that? That’s just demonic. That’s just anti-nature, anti-natural law, anti-God. anti-harmony, anti-peace. And there’s no moral or physical or philosophical justification for this behavior. They’re just demons. And this is obvious. So ultimately, we’re trying to create the split.

 

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Now, the way we snap the fulcrum, that snap the board over the fulcrum, is by putting as much weight on our end as we can, because only two things can happen. There’s only two possibilities. Either we snap the board in half because it’s very fragile, and that’s what the Liberal democracy is really worried about. We need to reinforce our democracy. You know, we need to keep everyone in the center. We need to basically make it illegal for these people on the right to do what they’re doing. But the Right, if you want to call it that, will continue to gain strength and weight, momentum and mass, because they’re continuing to allow the extreme Left to build its momentum and its mass.

 

So there’s always going to be a natural reaction where people see this demonic shit going on and they go one way or the other. And the longer people stay in the middle, the more likely they’re going to fall by the wayside. They’re going to fall onto one side. It’s like the Titanic is snapping in half. Western civilization is the Titan, it’s the Titanic, and it’s now happening in half, and they’re going to go to one side or the other.

 

Now, if we can get all the mass on our side, if we can shift the whole center across, then the thing won’t snap. It won’t snap. Society won’t snap. What will happen is we’ll have kind of a semi-peaceful situation, a semi-peaceful Democratic sort of situation, where we can shift all the way over to the Right quite rapidly.

 

And then the fulcrum just, it just, it flips on that point, and all the Lefties and freaks basically fly off the seesaw. And that all happens quite nicely. It doesn’t end up with this kind of balkanization and this civil war and racial conflict, like armed conflict. It doesn’t go hot. It kind of resolves in a kind of Parliamentarian manner where we can then ratchet things back to how they were. And then maybe if we’ve got enough momentum, we can keep pushing and keep reminding people.

 

But that can only occur with a radical and extreme minority of leaders of thought, leaders that can charge in a new spiritual and almost mystical way, a new ethos, a new spirit of living. It’s even beyond political. We’ve got all the economic arguments right? We’re better off without this situation. We were better off before all this fucking diversity, multiculturalism, transgender shit! Better off economically. We’re better off culturally. We’re better off socially. We’re better off politically because we have political rights when it’s a White majority country. We’re way freer in that sense when it’s a White majority country.

 

So we’ve got all these arguments, we’ve got all these positions as to how it personally is going to benefit us, yet we still don’t have power. We don’t have power. We’re not in charge yet. I believe, and I think Joel agrees with me here, that the reason why we don’t have power is because we don’t have a fire and an essence and a spirit. And Joel uses the term “romanticism”, which I appreciate as well, because I think there’s two components to it. I think there’s a feminine and a masculine. It’s got to be muscular and romantic. It’s got to be. You know, our term in our organization is, we say “blood and honor”. You know, it’s got to be material and spiritual, but there’s got to be an ethos. There’s got to be a something. Men are guided much more when things. When society gets this broken, whatever, these demons, these freaks, whatever is motivating them, it’s not necessarily coming from a rational position.

 

And I think we should avoid our leadership restricting itself and restraining itself to purely philosophical and rational arguments. We should allow feeling, emotion, and energy.

 

And I’ll finish with this last point, an anecdotal point. We have the organization that I run, and Jacob Hussain, who’s one of my offsiders, runs the activist side of things, the National Socialist Network. Horrible optics. Balaclavas and black block. And it’s so evil and scary, and we shouldn’t have this going on. It’s a bad look for the movement. And everyone hates us in the Right-wing. We’re like, we’re agent provocateurs and we’re getting paid by the Left to do it and all this sort of nonsense!

 

And then a White girl gets bashed by a bunch of Africans. And I look through the comments section and the boomers in the comments section saying:

 

“Well if those balaclava bandits were on that train, that wouldn’t have happened. You know, I’d much rather get on a train with the balaclava bandits than a bunch of Africans.”

 

And so everyone hates us until the violence starts. Yes, everyone hates us until it’s their daughter getting raped and when it’s their daughter that’s raped, they’re going to knock on my door and say:

 

“Tom, what are we going to do about this?”

 

And I say:

 

“I’ve been preparing this for some time. This is what we can do about this.”

 

I’ve actually got a solution to the problem. I’m going to do everything I can to help these people, even though right now they’re either apathetic or they hate us.

 

So we’re fighting for our race because we have something that’s so much, even deeper than just a material love for our people.

 

And to me, that that’s the future of the movement, and that’s what, that’s where the next ten and, 200 years of energy is going to come from. It has to be spiritual, it has to be religious, it has to be ritual, routine. It has to be bigger than just party politics. It has to be a new religion. Yeah.

 

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Lana Lokteff: The religion of your folk, too. I don’t like all this infighting too, of like pagan and Christian and all that. We just have to put folk first. And the spiritual condition is such a huge part of this as all the old philosophers, I mean, we’re Westerners. Western civilization was built on philosophizing and romanticism and thinking of all these things. We need to bring that energy back. It’s been squashed out of us. You know, it’s been beaten out of me.

 

Joel Davis: From a Jungian perspective, like, because so many of your ancestors, you have blood. It’s actually like a scientific fact. We know ancestral memory is just programed into, like, pretty much all mammals, not just humans. But because you have so many Christian ancestors and then so many more pagan ancestors, all of those archetypes are literally within your unconscious. Like, you carry within you the belief systems and the worldview of so many generations of your ancestors, and you can go back further. And at one point, maybe there were Aryans writing the Vaders and inventing Hinduism. Maybe there were ancient Egyptians. We know the pharaohs were all basically Europeans, or who knows what they were up to if you go back far enough generations.

 

But ultimately, all of that is within us. Yeah, like, I agree. Like, the pagan verse Christian thing, it’s kind of unavoidable when people are dogmatic about a subject, but from a perspective of an identitarian perspective of who are we putting aside those debates philosophically, theologically, like, we are all of these things, actually. And the I take the view that spirit blood isn’t a dichotomy, that it’s all interconnected, like the life force is the blood, like the force which generated you, is the same force which drove your parents and your grandparents and your great grandparents and so on, intergenerationally, to strive to create our civilization, to create and to embody certain values that are befitting a Whiteman, or a woman. We carry ourselves differently when we’re truly honoring our blood, when we’re living up to our potential. There isn’t no other people carry themselves with the kind of dignity and morality and all the virtues that are kind of innate in us are so much higher and more admirable.

 

And so when you’re trying to honor that tradition and when you’re thinking about the fact that you’re going to die, but then you’re going to have children and grandchildren and great grandchildren and so on down to eons, ideally, if we get genocided, if we win, that will be carrying that legacy forward and hopefully evolving, hopefully building upon it and going to. That’s what it’s all about. It’s not about you. It’s about this great chain of being, these thousands of thousands of years of Aryans behind you and extending out in front of you, trying to ascend and become a higher and more noble form of life. We already are the greatest form of life on this planet. And we want to become, can always be better.

 

Lana Lokteff: Ubermensch.

 

Joel Davis: And that isn’t just like getting taller and stronger and higher IQ. That’s part of it.

 

But it’s spiritually evolving. It’s recognizing the crisis around us as a test that is basically will determine the next phase of our evolution. Like, what do we have to become in order to confront this and overcome this? What kind of new culture do we have to create? What new mentality, what set of virtues do we have to honor and revere in order to become a people capable of taking back our nations, taking back our countries, taking back. We were running the whole planet a very short time ago. We should be running the planet. How do we take it all back? Who do we have to become to take it all back? That’s the question. It’s not just as simple as:

 

“Oh, if we just teach people that the system is anti-White. Look at this double standard.”

 

No.

 

Lana Lokteff: We have to think holistically. We have to think holistically.

 

Joel Davis: Much, much deeper. Yeah, it’s much deeper to be.

 

Lana Lokteff: Like a naturopath for a race. So, last question for you guys, what? So what can the little guys do right now to make a difference? I mean, in my view, I think starting families, building community, becoming the best White person that you can become, and holding the line that way. I mean, spiritually, mentally, and on a psychic level, I mean, that’s very important because things, trends are going to, eventually, it’s going to go there where things are going to pop off in ways that we don’t even expect yet.

 

So it’s like Thomas was saying, I’ll be here. I’ll be ready when that time comes. So, Thomas, what do you think thinking in terms of the little guys? What are things that they can do right now if they feel powerless?

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s two sides of it. Absolutely!

 

And so we have with our organization a two pronged attack. We have this idea that there’s a need for search parties, there’s a need for people to go out and look for survivors. We’re in a spiritual zombie apocalypse. I like watching zombie movies. I don’t know why, I just always like watching them, but I’ve always had an essence when I’m watching them. This is, I’m looking at it as a metaphor for real life that are, people are infected with a virus, a mind virus.

 

Lana Lokteff: Come to Philadelphia, Thomas. You’ll see plenty of zombies.

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, that’s obviously the full fruition of the zombie is by the time it gets to that point, they’re so drug effect that they actually look like a zombie. But we’re fighting a demonic mind virus or spiritual virus.

 

And so the two essences of what we’re doing as an organization to help the individual is you have to have the search party. You have to have the search party.

 

So you have to have guys that are willing to go out and risk danger to recruit and attract other people. And that’s a huge amount of risk and reward, and people burn out from that process. And activism plays a huge toll on people’s lives. And it’s really only suited for young guys, guys in their thirties and forties, they don’t do it for long. They usually get really burnt out unless there’s different kinds of activism. What, like what you and your husband are doing, where there’s this idea that when you watch I am legend and the character goes to Will Smith, goes under the pier, and he has the radio, and he’s like:

 

“Is there anyone out there? Can anyone hear me? You can hear me under the pier.”

 

That’s kind of what you guys are doing. You’re like a radio broadcaster, so you’re looking for survivors in it in a different method. And I really appreciate all the podcasters and all the content creators. And that’s actually how I came across Joel. Joel wasn’t involved in any sort of specific direct organization, but just as an individual. He was just talking out into the ether. Is anyone listening? Can anyone hear me? Does anyone understand what’s going on? This is what I think is going on. This is what I can see. Can anyone else see this virus that’s killing us? We need to work out how to fight back from this virus and let me compartmentalize all the different components of the virus and let me explain what the cure to the virus is.

 

And so there’s all these different strategies, but ultimately, we’re looking for survivors, we’re looking for community.

 

So it’s great as an individual to do whatever it is that you’re doing, but the other side of it is okay, now you’ve got survivors and you’ve built more activists. Now you’ve got this search party that’s found more search party people. What do you ultimately do with them when they burn out? When they ultimately, they’ve tried for so long, and everyone’s got a different fuse.

 

Some people have got a fire under them where they can do it for their whole life. You guys have been doing this for over a decade, and you’re just still there. You can only see slight return on investment every year. You’re dedicating your whole lives to it, but you’re moving things so slowly, and it can be black billing as a content creator. It’s like I’m giving my everything into this, and it’s only moving things these micro degrees, but ultimately, it’s like the fact that it’s moving is proof that we need to keep going.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, you need people in the trenches, you know, digging in the trenches.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly! And so to me, it’s so important to have a backup strategy. Not a backup strategy. It’s not necessarily. I call it plan A and plan B, but it’s from a zombie apocalypse scenario, a spiritual zombie apocalypse. It’s like you have search parties and you have survivors colonies.

 

So I think the other half of our program isn’t necessarily going out and trying to find survivors. It’s just building a survivors colony, and it’s just building parallel community, building a network of people that know what’s going on and are willing to just put in the work. They don’t necessarily need to do activism. They’re not necessarily going out and looking for other people, but those that will find us will find us. There’s a law of attraction. Even without activism, people will find you. That background work, that kind of, I call it the broad head strategy in the sense that’s appealing to people that maybe aren’t hardcore core ideologues or really spiritually motivated, but it appeals to building more of a Noah’s ark. You know, not that I’m a Christian, but this idea that you’re going to save more of the folk, you’re going to save more of the people, and you’re creating a better alternative to people.

 

So at an individual level, sure. Be the be the Ubermensch, be the coming man, you know, develop yourselves as best as you can display. Put your jeans on, the best display that you can put them on. Don’t be brought down by society. Society is decaying and crumbling around you. And to be able to insulate and isolate yourselves from that decay and to actually go the other way is what it means to be a good National Socialist, or a good area, or however you want to put it, a good Whiteman and have as big a family as you can manage, and marry a woman that has the same values as you and wants to be on the same path with you and build up your resources as an individual. Sure, but we won’t win this as a collection of individuals.

 

Lana Lokteff: You know, eventually you have to bring our talents together. Right? That’s what has to happen.

 

Thomas Sewell: We need to mobilize, we need to tribe up. And I will finish on this point. Politics is ultimately power, and the government has all the power. The government and its institutions are completely taken over, and you can try to subvert them from within, re-unsubvert them.

 

However, the mental gymnastics of that works and the people doing that, good on them, and keep going, it’s better than nothing. Absolutely!

 

But I believe that the most important thing is to build a new government. I believe that when we have built enough of our own manpower, enough of our own resources, enough of our own skills, and built them into a network, a tribal network together, and as we network with these other groups, eventually we become a replacement, a parallel government to the government.

 

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And then, and only then, is there going to be any sort of solution, whether that solution be political, cultural, economic, whatever, it doesn’t matter. Only then is there going to be a solution, and not a millisecond before. You’re not going to win! Nationalists aren’t going to win! Without a prototype to display nationalists aren’t going to win over the majority of the population by saying:

 

“Hey, we’re White nationalists and we want mass deportations and we want what’s best for you should vote for us.”

 

The average White person is like:

 

“Hmm, things are bad, but they kind of stable. These guys will probably create a race war, so I’m not going to vote for them.”

 

So there’s no solution to the problem that doesn’t include actually building a prototype society that you rule over already. And then you’re saying to the rest of the White people that don’t live in your society:

 

“Hey, look at what we’ve built under our leadership. We want to do this for the whole country. This is what we’re doing. This is how it’s going to look. This is how it’s going to be!”

 

“And in the meantime, while the majority aren’t supporting of us to put us in power, come join us. Come live with us. Come see what life is like with other White races.”

 

And when White racism is cooler and better and has all the benefits, then and only then will you win over the neutrals. But whether we win over the neutrals or not, we will have our pocket of light. And that pocket of light will develop. And if it holds on to its strength and its truth and its honor and its blood, most importantly, then we will prevail. Blood and honor.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but what I always say in regards to this as well is that, but one of the most important things you can do as a nationalist or White nationalist or Nazi or whatever is to be as cool and interesting and attractive as possible, and then try and get together with as many other cool, interesting and attractive fellow Nazis and create cool, interesting, attractive scenes where you’re doing all this cool, interesting and attractive stuff to the point where you’re not trying to convince, like:

 

“Please, please listen to my podcast. Please, like, listen to me spurge out about how the holocaust was fake for 10 hours!”

 

And the guys like:

 

“I just want to. I just want to talk about the football or something.”

 

It’s like you become so cool! They want to come and be a part of what you’re doing because they look around at society and culture is so dead and so boring and so uninspiring, and then there’s something inspiring and fun that you’re doing that they want to be a part of you attract people in. It’s way more effective than trying to plead or trying to push something upon when you can attract them, when you can attract.

 

So that’s what we need to develop more as a movement is just more. Doing more cool shit, basically.

 

Lana Lokteff: Just so you know, Joel, I don’t have any fat, ugly friends.

 

Actually, the other day, I was getting together with all my girlfriends, and I’m like:

 

“Oh, my God, they all look like models!”

 

You know, when other girls come around, they all get, like, intimidated.

 

But I see how effective even that is, the way we talk, like, our lingo and stuff.

 

And then when they say, like:

 

“Oh, another, there’s a beautiful woman and she’s talking like that, then, oh, I guess it must be okay, and then, okay, I’m gonna let my hair down and, like, talk about these things.”

 

Now I see how that works. It seems, it seems shallow, but that’s just human nature.

 

Joel Davis: It’s true.

 

I mean, I was out drinking the other night in Melbourne, which is a few months ago. I think this, the Roman salute had already been banned. It already been made illegal. But I was drunk, and it was 03:00 in the morning, and so I was just trying to get as many people to do it as possible on the street. And I was going up to girls, and the pretty girls would do it, and then their ugly friends would get really upset, and it was this constant iterative pattern.

 

So I definitely believe in yeah, you want hot chicks. You want guys that you know, that have a martial quality. You want guys that women are. If you have hot Nazi guys, then women are like:

 

“Damn! I want to become a Nazi! Look at the quality. Like, look at the Leftist bros over here with their soy milkshakes. I don’t really agree about the whole Hitler thing, but those guys are., ..!”

 

Lana Lokteff: Kind of so hot.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! It makes, that actually makes more of a difference than you’re explaining about how if but race and IQ and, like, read this book called the Bell Curve or something, immediately it’s just crickets, you know, for a lot of people.

 

So that’s something that we need to, we’re working on. It’s something that we need to keep developing because we have to show people why the White race is worth fighting for in the first place, like, why you should actually love your people. You have to become lovable.

 

So that’s also also, I think, online activism, a lot of people a lot of people just stay online, and so often Tom has to come on and be like, you can’t just be on the computer or on your phone. You have to actually meet people and form communities. And that’s an important message. But the reverse message is also important.

 

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There’s a lot of people I notice on Twitter, for example, who they’ll like all my tweets. And then I click on their profile and their profile is just retweeting things and liking things. They never actually say anything that’s not actually helpful. You’re basically just a consumer. You’re a passive consumer.

 

Like, it isn’t actually that difficult to join cacophonies in replies, in comment sections to amplify certain forms of messaging. We’re creating a discourse with the system, like the online discourse does actually create a discourse with powerful elements constantly harassing conservatives, calling them traitors, calling them cucks and so on, because they’re too weak on immigration or constantly talking about the jewish question or whatever, like whatever hot button issue generating controversy, amplifying certain messaging, causes these people to respond.

 

Maybe the conservatives start having a little bit more edgy messaging and trying to include the talking points. Or maybe there’s just people that are reading the replies and you’re delegitimizing these. They thought that these guys were really based in Right-wing, and then they see all the replies telling them off for being way insufficiently Right-wing.

 

And that kind of expands their consciousness on what’s possible to think politically. And the same with Leftists.

 

Like if you can get, if we can get the system to what Tom’s organization, our organization has done very effectively is we’ve forced the system and the media and so on to constantly talk about us to the point now where it’s like a brand, like in Australia, millions of people know who we are. If we show up in uniform on a street with the banner out, they know who we are when we walk past. And that’s potent. That creates an actual personalized expression of the idea. It isn’t just like an abstract idea. It becomes a group of people. And that changes how people interpret things psychologically. And I’ve been out with the boys on marches and the majority of the public saying things that are supportive as opposed.

 

And it’s like everyone knows it’s neo-Nazis walking in balaclavas down a street. This is pretty radical stuff, even by the standards of the dissident Right? It’s one of the most radical organizations, most radical optics in the world.

 

Yet a bunch of normal people are like:

 

“Fuck, yeah!”

 

Because they can see that there’s nothing else that has got the balls to really provide a public, demonstrable, serious opposition to what is happening. And they know that the average person knows that things are seriously fucked up! And if the only people standing up against it are Nazis, they’ll clap and cheer for the Nazis. So.

 

Lana Lokteff: All right, we’ll have to keep an eye on Australia and what you guys are doing, you have to tell us about. I know you guys have a show that you do together. Let us know all that information. People want to go check you guys out.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, just follow me. On Rumble, my channel is Joel Davis, Rumble.com. Joel Davis and I stream. We stream every week on Australian politics, but we talk. We don’t always just talk about Australian politics. We talk about general ideas. The show generally was originally myself and Blair Cottrell, who’s another prominent Australian nationalist, but Tom comes on almost every week, so it’s kind of like the Joel, Blair and Tom show, but sometimes one of them can’t make it, and so it’s just me and one of them as opposed to both of them.

 

Lana Lokteff: I see Blair is still banned from Twitter, as well from X. I saw you guys were hammering.

 

Joel Davis: A week ago.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, look at that. Yeah. Elon Musk celebrated X’s win over Australia’s censorship. Today is a victory for free speech. But many Aussie nationalists, including Blair Cottrell, remain banned. Right. And he was never told what, why he got suspended.

 

Joel Davis: So well, he’s been banned since 2018. Since the Musk takeover, he hasn’t, … He’s appealed.

 

Lana Lokteff: Never been reinstated.

 

Joel Davis: Over and over again! They won’t reinstate him. They won’t say why. They won’t even identify what the original tweet was. It was probably because the government asked for him to be banned! That’s probably why.

 

But, yeah, he wants to go on Twitter and be like:

 

“Oh, X is the only free speech platform, and we’re standing up to the Australian government!”

 

But Blair’s banned, Tom’s banned now as well.

 

Lana Lokteff: Jared Taylor. American Renaissance hasn’t brought him back. David Duke, he’s not brought back. Yeah, there’s a list.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Mark Collett and the other Patriotic Alternative people, they’re all banned. Elon Musk was like:

 

“Oh, it’s horrible that Sam Melia has gone to jail for stickers. That’s abhorrent.”

 

But he won’t unban his Twitter account. What is going on? He’s a hypocrite.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah. Geez.

 

All right, Thomas, anything else you want to say before we let you guys go? Because I know we could talk for hours.

 

Thomas Sewell: We could talk for hours. So I’ll let you guys go. But on the Twitter, subject. I think the last video I did, I put up a post talking about how I can’t fight in the shadows, just not how I’m built. I have to fight in the light.

 

And it’s interesting because Musk put up something about how these neo-Nazis and these radical elements:

 

“We shouldn’t have them in the shadows. We should have them in the light. We should give them free speech, because, it’s important for society to be able to see what they have to say and then ridicule them for how crazy and insane they are!”

 

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And then they say these, you know, these centered people trying to keep the ship together or keep the fulcrum together. They say these things, but they don’t deliver because they’re actually very afraid of the public hearing what we have to say. Because when the public hear what we have to say, even though there are some pretty full on outcomes from what we have to say, they inherently recognize its sensibility. We are just a return of common sense. The way the conservatives talk about it, we’re the actual version of common sense. Like, the common sense is we don’t want Australia to turn into India. So, obviously, how we go about that is pretty full on. But the common sense is we don’t want Australia to turn into India. And everyone’s on board with that except the 1% communist jew freaks.

 

So, yeah, I want to be in the light. I want to be in the light. I want to because I want the spotlight on me. But I think there’s something important that some of us have to say, and I have the energy, and I have the fire.

 

So I want to be in the light. And they’re keeping a lot of us in the shadows, like Blair and myself. And maybe Joel might suffer in the future. I want you all to be very careful. He’s surfing a Kali Yuga, like me, and you say the wrong thing or you draw the wrong attention, and they’ll strike you down.

 

But, yeah, at the moment, I’m operating in the shadows, and I don’t mind that in the sense that maybe I need to take a break from social media and work on the organization more and build its strength in other ways rather than just the spotlight.

 

So, yeah, certainly. I just trust I don’t want to sound like a qanon, but I just trust the plan. I trust God. I believe that all of this is just unlocking and unfolding our future. And if that’s you just got to roll with the punches. That’s what I said when we came on the show. Seven months in jail. It is what it is. Censored on Telegram. It is what it is. Bank account shutdown. It is what it is so many people are paralyzed by fear. They’re like:

 

“Oh, but if I get involved. Oh, but if I do this. Oh, but then this will happen!”

 

It’s like, yeah, and then this will happen. And then it’s overcome or die. It’s just overcome or die. And that’s all I have to say. Overcome or die! Like, so we just die. When all these people put up all these roadblocks for me, like:

 

“Oh, I’d like to get involved or I’d like to do something, but I’m worried about this.”

 

It’s like, so just die. Just, why don’t you just kill yourself? Why don’t you just die? Because what, you’re just living for hedonism now? You’re just like:

 

“Oh, I like my comforts. I’ll just stay alive for my comforts. I don’t care that society’s going down the drain. I don’t care that my grandsons won’t actually be able to have the comforts I have. I’ll get the comforts.”

 

And I’m just, I just think myself, that’s so philosophically. And it’s usually older men that say this up, not younger men. Most young guys I meet, most young men that I meet, they haven’t had a spirit crushed yet. They haven’t had mean, demoralized by the forces of the modern world. And they’re still true to their nature. Like society’s effed up. My teachers are all wrong. You know, I’m gonna say faggot because I hate faggots. You know, whatever it is they’ve still got some spirit left in them.

 

And I think we should, it’s like an Aryan barbarian, and we should cultivate that. I don’t think we should neuter the barbarian nature of the Whiteman.

 

Lana Lokteff: Oh, absolutely!

 

Joel Davis: It has been neutered.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: We need to reawaken.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yes.

 

And part of that is the key.

 

Joel Davis: Much too many White bitches. We’ve got so many White bitches. That’s why we’re in the position we’re in right now.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: If even 10% of the White race had my mentality would be running the fucking world!

 

Lana Lokteff: I think there are a lot of guys that do have your mentality. They just have it quietly. But when they get together with other bros, you know, they talk that way.

 

Thomas Sewell: I mean, we have to summon the strength. We have to summon the strength.

 

Lana Lokteff: And that’s why children is important. Guys, you got to raise those kids to have that fire, to know these things, to combat these things and not crush their soul so that they’re future warriors.

 

I mean, we’re raising the next generations. This is probably going to be a, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Long war, you know, we need to be warriors ourselves.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Our children look up to us. Yeah, our children look at us. And if we’re a coward, there’s a strong chance that our sons are going to be cowards.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: We don’t need our sons, … I’ll leave it there because we’ll talk all day.

 

Lana Lokteff: Yeah, we need some vikings and shield maidens. But thank you guys so much. Appreciate you taking your time. We’ll have to do it again in the future. Thanks so much.

 

Joel Davis: Thank you.

 

Lana Lokteff: Well, I think this is the most controversial thing you can talk about these days still for now, but things are opening up.

 

The point is we can and should explore all forbidden topics. Nothing should be off limits, including a hand gesture.

 

I mean, I may not salute while making my morning coffee or going on Marches, but if others feel good doing it, its their business. Making a hand gesture illegal is desperate and hilarious and begs for people to do it more often just because its so ridiculous!

 

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Earthling Carl
3 days ago
Eventually you have to accept the race realist argument and JQ stuff or you cease to operate in the real world.

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@W_Poe_White
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Judeo-tyranny is here and now. It is escalating.

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@leod
3 days ago
Carl Sagan

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VERITAS
3 days ago
“Jews are continuing to push for laws against what they call “hate speech” — which means any speech which contradicts their lies.”
–Dr. William Pierce

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Dawn Browning
3 days ago
Genetic memory is defo A Thing, no matter where you’re “from”. Blood & Soil.

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@Alison-Chains
2 days ago
I’ve always been drawn to the swastika. in elementary school, i remember seeing the propaganda posters showing different races all holding hands in a circle and knew it didn’t reflect reality. my school was diverse and it became clear to me at a young age that blacks were nothing like us.

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@DancingIsraeli
3 days ago
Sewall and Joel are The Total White Chads we All aspire to be \0 \0/ 0/

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@Alison-Chains
3 days ago
I admire them both. I’ve been following Tom for a few years now. as a woman, I view these men as heroes.

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RevolutionOfAncestralReturn
3 days ago
if the movement that these guests and host say we need is spiritual, and of the people… how does taking the spiritual forms designed by our would be destructors (forsaking this world as sin) and anti-race (the universalism of the abrahamic religions) forward into that discussion, even a point of contention?!
this is what destroyed nearly every great nation in europe by subjugating it to the authors of these religions. All 3 here are smoking crack that they think we can move forward with mental children who need to be selected out if they cant see that glaring obviousness of the problem.

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DOLO
3 days ago
Sewell has a video were he talks about this. It might be the Christian morality vid but i can’t remember exactly. I wouldn’t want to speak for him but i don’t believe he’s a christian, he takes the Third Reich stance on it i’m pretty sure, but you would have to find the vid.

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@leod
2 days ago
I don’t know why you were downvoted? This reddit system should be deleted

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Euroicism
3 days ago
Agreed, Christianity and Islam are both the offshoots of Judaism, both were deliberately designed and promoted by jews to weaken the ethnic identity and ethnocentrism of non-jews… I’ve made videos about that:

@Euroicism

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@leod
3 days ago
Was Buddhism also created by Jews?

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Euroicism
3 days ago
Not as far as I’m aware but Buddhism is largely a pacifist religion with no racial exclusivity therefore it’s not in direct opposition to the globalist agenda of international jewry.

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
3 days ago(edited)
No, but it isn’t White, so who cares?
We already have our own indigenous ethnic religions that predate it anyway.

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@leod
3 days ago
This “Eurocism” guy is repeating statements only found within modern judaism. Listen to “Euroicism: Religion of the European Race” at
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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
3 days ago
Frankly, I don’t give a damn about his videos. What he said about Buddhism in his comment above is true.
Buddhism isn’t jewish, but it also isn’t White. From a racial standpoint, following it is stupid, unless you’re Asian.

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@leod
3 days ago
Be careful.
You said, with great care, that “his comment on Buddhism is true”.
But it is false.
He said “Buddhism is largely a pacifist religion with no racial exclusivity therefore it’s not in direct opposition to the globalist agenda of international jewry.”
I responded to him with this: “Racial exclusivity in religion is judaism. Of course it has no relationship with any direct opposition against the globalist agenda”
Do you understand?

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
1 day ago(edited)
“Racial exclusivity in religion” is natural, you absolute brainlet.
Nearly ALL religions originated as their respective tribe’s interpretation of the world around them and the experiences of them and their ancestors, expressed through artwork, song, and storytelling.
Germanic, Celtic, Slavic… There’s a reason they’re typically referred to by their parent tribe.
Pagan religions are entirely racial, as when you stupidly adhere to another tribe’s religion, you are worshiping those people through their ancestors. In other words, you become a race cuck.
It’s almost exclusively the Abrahamic (read: jewish) religions that aren’t racially exclusive because they were weapons designed to be spread as much and as widely as possible; to overwrite everyone’s indigenous pagan faiths and cultural identity, thus dismantling their nations from within.
They’re also monotheistic, which is entirely alien to us. The “god” isn’t a relatable pantheon of your ancestors, but instead a shapeless, androgynous nothing that is reminiscent of communism the jews would later create for the same purpose.
Buddhism isn’t jewish and it isn’t White. It is ultimately irrelevant. Your reading comprehension is garbage.
Do you understand?
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@leod
1 day ago
“It’s almost exclusively the Abrahamic (read: jewish) religions that aren’t racially exclusive”
Jews exists… and are exclusive to the old testament. Most of them do everything except religion, so that makes you wrong. Look at Carl Sagan as the perfect example of a Jew who poisons society.
What is your goal? You just rant and give no coherent direction. White people practicing pagan ideas won’t change anything of a political reality. Maybe you’re just that stupid to believe so?

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
1 day ago
You type like an actual retarded AI. You’ve already been downvoted, called out and corrected numerous times by multiple people in this comment section, yet you still haven’t learned your lesson.
All the information debunking your little mindless ‘argument’ is detailed in my previous comments. You’ve already lost and can’t accept it. I’ve seen that behavior before.
It’s obvious now that you’re a crypto-jew, incoherently peddling desert myths in broken English to my people.
You’re not going to waste my time any longer. I recommend you fuck off.

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@leod
1 day ago(edited)
You have no idea what you talk about, (you’re probably multitasking between euroicism and this account since you blocked me from both) but only like to express popular opinions in a reddit setting where people are downvoted for explaining things more thoroughly. Or censored just like the popular American negro cancel-culture.
“In broken english”… you’re the leading spirit charging the uneducated American front line, happily slaughtering German Christians for following Hitler

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@Mut_zum_Wut
3 days ago
Love these guys

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@Alison-Chains
3 days ago
i know exactly what Tom’s talking about with the Indian gas station employee. every saturday i stop at the same gas station and the indian guy is ALWAYS on his phone. he rings me up but doesnt tell me the cost. he doesnt acknowledge me at all.

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Heartland
2 days ago
In England, supermarket jobs that used to be for white teenagers to earn a little money, now seem to be dominated by 50 year-old plus indian or pakistani men stacking the shelves etc. Why is a 50 year old man arriving into a country and doing a supermarket job that teenagers used to do?
I asked one once whether the store sold any tin openers? He just looked at me, muttered something in a non-English language. He then walked off and brought what was a manager (another asian) who answered the question in another strong asian accent. And this was a large UK supermarket chain – the old shelf-stacker couldn’t even speak English – yet he had a job, whereas I know many young white English out of work. It’s ridiculous.

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@Alison-Chains
2 days ago
to disenfranchise whites, of course.

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The worst
1 day ago
it’s so ridiculous we have to put up with these indian turds. they are the most miserable people to be around. I can’t stand them

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The worst
1 day ago
the funny thing is I knew a cafe that was all run by white women. the place was always busy and people loved going there. well at one point the owners replaced all the women with Indian men. place was a ghost town after

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MichaelB
3 days ago
WW2 was the defeat of political White power.

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Silence Dogood 1722
3 days ago
I really hate the anti-White bigots and communist terrorists that are fighting against our people.

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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
Careful you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater with good ideas like bigotry;) Walls make good neighbors

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@Moonman
3 days ago
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@W_Poe_White
3 days ago
1:30:19
Joel says that we should be White supremacists rather than merely anti-Jewish supremacists. I agree. White people being supreme in our own nations is what makes them our nations. We need to set things up for the benefit of our race so that our nations are once again our homelands, i.e. lands where White people may feel at home. This is the essential goal. Defeating Jewish supremacism is necessary to save ourselves.
I am opposed to Zionism because the Jews are too formidably dangerous a people to be allowed to have their own homeland. They already possess nuclear ballistic missiles. They must not be allowed to become global leaders in technology such as AI-guided advanced military robots and drone swarms and bioweapons, The existence of Israel is a threat to world peace and a standing danger to the White race (as well as the other races). Jewish power needs to be ended worldwide. Full stop.
I am not in favor of White imperial expansion so that Whites conquer and rule non-White lands. The main reason I oppose this is that there is a tendency for conquerors, in the fullness of time, to mix with those they conquer. The White phenotype is recessive. Any mixture with Brown or Black peoples produces non-White offspring. Mixture with Asians is not quite so bad, but still tends to our disappearance.
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Zed Dez
3 days ago
Being that most of the dissident right men think Islam is their friend… well, it’s over. Kiss your ass goodbye.

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@Pandemonium
3 days ago
Yep Mark Collett and Warren Balogh etc simping for Palestinians and mudslimes is sickening

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Echo_Harp
3 days ago
Are you an Israeli or just stupid?

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@English
3 days ago
Jews and Muslims work together at the higher levels. Muslims are the enemy and should never be an ally. EVER! Fucking Jihad never stopped you muppet

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Echo_Harp
3 days ago
Modern jihad is a US-Israeli invention that originated in Saudi Arabia. I don’t want these people in Europe any more than most people here do. Nevertheless, we should not forget who we have to thank for this! Surprisingly, the Jihadis work in the same way as the Irgun Zwai Leumi, the Zionist terrorist organization in Mandate Palestine from 1931 to 1948. They are all the same cancer at the higher levels.

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@Pandemonium
3 days ago
I dont see you going to criticize either of the two i mentioned and pressure them to work with other WHITES FIRST. You just slurp up their bullshit like a good subject then go around calling everyone a jew that doesnt agree with your stupidity.

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Echo_Harp
3 days ago
Filthy rich Jews turn white countries into shitholes. This 3rd world trash is just the tool. But I make a distinction with the Palestinians for good reason. Apart from what is being done to them, they have been able to expose Israel more in the last three quarters of a year than anyone else since 1948 before the eyes of the Normies and deserve support for that reason alone. And they are paying a terrible price for it. Besides, what do you think the port is being built for? They want to deport them to the US and Europe. I don’t need any more people with severe war neuroses in my country.

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
3 days ago
Capitalizing jew but not White? That’s a tell.

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@Pandemonium
3 days ago
Exactly, and if our enemies are presently destroying each other shouldnt we be celebrating it instead of trying to stop it. There are so many WNs that are just cattle that blindly follow the takes of streamers that clearly have ulterior motives.

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@English
3 days ago(edited)
Of cause they battle each other at the lower levels, Otherwise they would never have got to this point were at has people would have noticed. They sacrifice their babies, do you think they care about some of their own for bigger gains? Like access to the EU that our ancestors fought off!
They are NOT destroying each other in these little battles lol. They always gain from them (sending whites into doing their battles for them for example). Thats why jews are in the Palestine protest’s has well has the Israel protests. Controlling both sides. It’s just a distraction has they fill ALL white countries with N*ggers, Pajeets, Spics and mix breed Kalerghi kids at extreme rates since 2020 and nothing is done about it.
And don’t think the chinese are not working with the jews, They litterally put the CCP into power over there lol
EDIT – Why block the word n*gger red-ice, thats weak ass shit!
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DOLO
3 days ago
What have the Palestinians done other than fight your enemies?

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
3 days ago
They’re in our countries, mooching.

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DOLO
3 days ago
That was a long way of saying ‘i stand with Israel’.

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@English
3 days ago
It’s crazy how many people fall for mark when all he has on is people who sold out to the jews and everyone around him goes to jail, but not him! Nothing to see here, Move along goy!
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Euroicism
3 days ago
Do most of the Dissident Right think Islam is their friend ?
Personally I don’t support jews or muslims, I hope they destroy each other.

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@leod
3 days ago
But you do support jews. When you repeat that jewish nonsense you say about some weird person only found in judaism you then support jews

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Euroicism
2 days ago
Firstly, no, I do not support jews. I despise them, they are overwhelmingly responsible for the global demographic holocaust against people of European descent.
Secondly, what jewish nonsense about a weird person only found in judaism?
I have no idea who or what you are talking about.

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@leod
2 days ago
If you use their view you support them.
And you do use their view since you say that Christ was “yeshua ben yosef”, something found only in judaism which then supports the jewish view.
Therefore you support jews.

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Euroicism
2 days ago
There was no such fucking person as “Christ”. What the fuck do you think his real name was?… Mr. Jesus Christ, son of Mary and Joseph Christ?… Are you really that retarded you actually think Jesus was his first name and Christ was his last name?
If he even existed as a real historical figure (which is highly debatable) his real name was Yeshua ben Yosef, which means Yeshua son of Yosef.
Most Christcucks today don’t even realise the name “Jesus” was simply the Greek translation of the jewish name “Yeshua”… That disgusting dirty schizophrenic jewish fictional hippy you christcucks all worship was not Greek, he never even went to Greece in his entire pathetic life. He was entirely jewish. And you cannot be a true White Nationalist if you worship a jew, even a fictional jew like Jesus. H. Christ.

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@leod
2 days ago
Eurocism blocked me but I will respond anyway:
Read what Tacitus said instead of citing your rabbi.
Tacitus:
[ 44 ] But it was not by human aid, nor by the bounty of the prince, nor by appeasement of the gods, that the infamy passed away, without the order of burning being believed. therefore, suppressing the rumour, Nero subdued the guilty, and inflicted the most exacting punishments on those whom the common people called Christians, who were hated for their crimes. The author of his name, Christ, was put to death by the impetuous execution of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate; and the deadly superstition, suppressed for the time being, broke out again, not only through Judea, the origin of its evil, but also through the city, where all things atrocious or shameful from every quarter congregate and are celebrated. therefore, those who confessed were first arrested, and then a great number of them were convicted, not so much of the crime of arson as of hatred of the human race. and to those who succeeded, games were added, that they killed dogs covered with wool on the backs of beasts, or that they were fastened to crosses [or flaming and], where the day had failed, they were burned in the use of night light. Nero had presented him with a show in his gardens, and he entertained at the circus, mingling with the crowd in the habit of a driver, or stopping at the race. whence, although against the sonnets and the latest examples, pity arose for the meritorious, as if they were consumed not in the public interest, but in the cruelty of one.
You:
“you cannot be a true White Nationalist if you worship a jew, even a fictional jew like Jesus. H. Christ.”
Hitler:
“We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity. Our movement is Christian.”
You don’t get it.
Remove that cross from your thumbnail since you do not deserve it.
You would side with the American who hated Hitler, and your imbecile intellectual farts proves that.
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@TheArtemisiolius
1 day ago
Hitler despised christianity and saw it as weak. Peddle your lies somewhere else, Jew (?)

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@leod
1 day ago
That spirit of yours would be amongst the people in the American front line to charge against those filthy Christian Germans in WW2. Your stupidity is the reason to why Hitler lost the war.

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NiggerballsJohnson
3 days ago
I don’t know any serious person who believes that, or would ever say that.

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DOLO
3 days ago
These idiots have been repeating it for months. They’re either bad actors or completely fucking retarded.

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@Jiveturkey0001
2 days ago
Well…you’re a man-hating cunt, though. So who cares what you think?

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@lewpers
2 days ago
Shalom

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@leod
1 day ago
Are you Russian?

@Moonman
11 hours ago
That’s blackpill garbage. I despise both, but I admit I like to see Muslims attacking the tiny hats. Simply because they’re the underdog and I despise semites so much more. Without “gods chosen” there’d be no Muslims in the west.

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@W_Poe_White
3 days ago
1:31:40
Joel says “People who are better than others should have a requisite status.”
It is not enough to say that status should be given to people who are better than others without specifying that they must also be White if they are to have status and power in White nations.. Do we want to be ruled by non-Whites with superior abilities? Talking only about unqualified “superiority” is universalistic. Multiracialist Globalists could embrace elitism. In fact, Jews have such an elitist mentality. Jews are NOT egalitarians.
What we should want is to have White nations with leadership selected from among our best specimens. We want White leaders of excellence, not merely leaders of excellence.
Furthermore, values are relative. What makes individuals of other races excellent is not necessarily what makes White individuals excellent. Part of what constitutes excellence depends on the particular needs and wants of the individuals doing the evaluating. These needs and wants vary somewhat between different racial phenotypes. This diversity of natural values is part of why ethnonations are necessary.

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NiggerballsJohnson
3 days ago(edited)
Joel specifically stated many times to have an explicitly White nation, but the same would apply for all races in their own nations.
I don’t think he could have driven that point home any further without becoming overly redundant. o/

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JVDEA DELENDA EST
3 days ago
I learned a few things watching this.

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Thankyou from Tasmania!
3 days ago
I was living in New Zealand when I entered “mass immigration is destroying the environment” into YouTube & found Red Ice, around 2016! Don’t even talk to me about what has happened to NZ, it’s too sad!

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@Dive2663225
3 days ago
Yes it sadens me so, New Zealand is Probably one of the most enslaved , I’m not from there BUT Every time That MARXIST BITCH Jacenda Spewed, The Communist JEW Crap comming out of her mouth..I Visually wanted to stick my foot right up her JEW-TOOL ASS!!

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Dissident Farmer
2 days ago
Tom is awesome. He’s the closest thing we have to “the coming man”

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Heartland
2 days ago
I agree. This was a great conversation. Hail Red Ice.

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@ThumosMaximus
3 days ago
What an excellent interview. Intelligent and well articulated guests and host, interesting and relevant topics, no self-censorship, timely and well placed use of B-roll in the background, good audio, and they even handled well the delay you get when communicating with “Down Under”. The production quality of Red Ice is next level.
Also very interesting and inspiring to hear about what nationalists in other white countries are up to, so I hope we well see even more content like this.

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Shlomowitz
3 days ago
Super duper important discussion! Many need to to sort these things out within their personal intellectual discourse.

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@Alison-Chains
2 days ago
the majority of whites haven’t figured out yet they’re under attack.

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The worst
2 days ago
Thomas Sewell has balls! he is dead on right we all need to stand up

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@SubRoyal
3 days ago
Population wise Australia is small but man, they have very high quality leadership in their white nationalist circles

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@Libertaebär
3 days ago
Best regards from Berlin.

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Cone of Silence
3 days ago
Most of Australia’s uni’s are privately owned, the Chancellor are remunerated by profit, it’s literally spot the Aussie in these institutions.
They, like the business lobby, are on the front foot with mass migration.
Kevin Rudd opened the foreign investment juggernaut, my best mate’s brother in law was selling blue chip property in Melbourne, the Chinese would turn up the a suitcase of cash and dump it on the kitchen table.

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NiggerballsJohnson
3 days ago
I have complete 100% faith in Thomas & Joel.
I can envision a better future with those two men.
Hail our people! o/

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@leod
3 days ago
Would these people obey Hitler?

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NiggerballsJohnson
2 days ago
-you might want to ask them.
I believe they probably would because Hitler always explained the reasoning behind any of his actions and viewpoints.

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@leod
2 days ago
Yes, they have based their whole theoretical framework around Hitler, but would they be able to submit themselves in real life is my question or could their ego not stand him? I really do wonder.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
Where is your evidence that their whole world view is framed that way? Do they think Hitler was perfect? Only a fool would assume that. His underlying premise of race before all else, that has grounding in natural science.

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@leod
2 days ago
Q: “Where is your evidence that their whole world view is framed that way?”
A: Their Antisemitism comes from Hitler which is emphasised over and over. Nothing wrong with that, but Hitler were talking mainly to Christian Germans.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
If youre talking about Joel, I dont think his worldview is merely from Hitler. He comes from Western Sydney, if you know the area you know why he thinks the way he does.

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Cone of Silence
3 days ago
The argument always was/is that we need immigration so they can pay for the ageing population, what I’ve noticed is that the children come here but then bring their aged clan in once they are anchored.
As discussed these communities are allowed to have in group preference and they do have it, that’s why the cluster and take over suburbs.
It stage 4 cancer now, I don’t think there much that can be done given the global lawfare system and white civilisation apathy and lack of collectivism.
Possible in the 60’s but not now. The cities will become hell zones once the gloss is gone.
It a travesty.

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
3 days ago
The solution to an aging population (short of reujuvenation) is to have more children.
Funny how they always conveniently forget this when spouting their bullshit arguments.

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VERITAS
3 days ago
Third Reich Germany had the perfect solution (i.e., incentive) to encourage Germans to reproduce. Do some research if you’re not aware of what I’m talking about.

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Bloodwyrm Wildheart
2 days ago
Preaching to the choir.

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VERITAS
3 days ago
“The argument always was/is that we need immigration so they can pay for the ageing population”
A bullshit reason. The real reason is to brown our White homelands with fast breeding Turd Worlders and precipitate more race-mixing, producing mongrel, half-caste, raceless bastards.

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unHerd
2 days ago
Joel and Tom did Australia proud. Well done, lads. Great show.

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MajesticCasual
3 days ago
Brilliant \\o

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@Aus1788
3 days ago
about time redice interviews real Australians..

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Heartland
2 days ago(edited)
Which is the best English translation of Mein Kampf to read (which English translation version is the closest to the actual German)?

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Lampshade Denier
1 day ago
Thomas Dalton

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DOLO
7 hours ago
I think Dalton has a dual book with both German and English.

White Dog’s House
3 days ago
I think the reason they are scared shitless of Sewell…why they have been sparing no energy trying to break and dominate him…it’s because he can see the structure and leadership of the web of Jewry. Where most “activists” speak in terms of big, ambiguous “they’s”, he explains who moves what in the power structure well.

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Peak Aussieman
3 days ago
The idea of skilled migration, that the poms bleat on about has been bastardised to the point of being irreparable.

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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
The point is that a nation’s people don’t need any reason to deny immigration to everyone, invaders are invaders are invaders.

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@TheArtemisiolius
1 day ago
Imagination with a desire and focused will has an energy to it i.e. Magick. White people need to start practising it and throw the semitic christ-cuck turn-the-other-cheek BS out, OUT for good! 14/88 Heil !!

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@leod
1 day ago
Would you say this in front of Hitler and thinking he would agree with you?

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Hvdzee
2 days ago
Top interview!!

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Abby Eagle
2 days ago
At every bus stop in Australia there is a sign with a roman salute and the words “Hail Bus” or “Hail Driver” I think everyone who catches a bus should salute the bus driver as the bus pulls up at the bus stop. The sign tells the passengers to do it so they should show their respect to the driver.

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De Dubius Unum
3 days ago
Total amd Complete Hail! \O/!

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@Dive2663225
3 days ago
Hey Joel, you feel you need a gun if someone else has a gun To protect yourself?
Excuse Me, But Its ok not to have a gun..For A few scumbags to break into your home and stab and beat your family with a baseball bat to death?
How about ..ITS YOUR RIGHT TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND FAMILY, BY ANY MEANS, i wish you luck With your bat If home invaders come in the night.
WAKE the fuck up..the same people who do not want you to be armed ARE the same people That are /Will KILL YOU
5 years now.. I NEVER go out my door without my concealed weapon…AND YOU SHOULD TOO!

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@English
3 days ago
Im not sure why you got down votes for this, Guns should be legal everywhere. Criminals dont give 2 shits about legislation so i don’tknow how anyone fell for the removeal of them in the first place. Boomers really fucked up with been complacent

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DOLO
3 days ago
Probably because Joel didn’t say that. He said he thought guns were cool and we should be able to have them, etc.

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@English
3 days ago(edited)
Read his whole comment…. the end especially! – ‘I NEVER go out my door without my concealed weapon…AND YOU SHOULD TOO!’ He’s been sarcastic at the start. Im english so i spot it easy, or am i missing something \o/

@Dive2663225
3 days ago(edited)
DOLO”- You have a comprehension disability? Listen to his words carefully..All of them , Not just some

@Dive2663225
3 days ago
Thats Right, Espescially When your JEW GOV. ARE the Criminals

@Dive2663225
3 days ago
I hold a permit to carry, I carry NOT because i want to shoot someone, I carry NOT because I’m in FEAR,
I Carry simply because its my RIGHT to carry, I simply exersize my right as an American, Lots of so called rights have been lost or damaged because People do not exersize their rights,
I live in Florida, And just last year, Anyone except Felons can carry without a permit.
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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
That’s the thing about “LaW”, Joel said in this interview, “we’re law-abiding citizens”…until it is decided that he or anybody is not regardless of Truth. We only have the Rights we USE. “Law is often but the will of tyrants and always so when it violates the rights of the individual”. No matter the generation, Rights in USE now is the solution and person, property, borders and rights have to be defended lethally. Either ANY individual can defend these things or you get an unjust society. It is that simple, it HAS to be that simple or it won’t work. Kill invaders or get invaded, carry a gun or you don’t have/get one, define, spread and USE Rights or you have none:)
The best part is that individual rights in use perfectly separate good from bad.

AurigaBooks
16 hours ago(edited)
I’ve been booted off of jYoutube, Facebook, Twitter/X, even “free speech” Rumble. Was it something I said? lol
How Hitler and NS Germany became J Woke..

From Bust to Boom: Hitler’s NS economics. 卐

Renazification. 卐

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Heartland
2 days ago
Is homeschooling possible in Australia?

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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
Seems courts, “LaW” and lawyers aren’t working? In fact, seems they are the favorite tools of evil?

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Thankyou from Tasmania!
3 days ago(edited)
Always great to see fellow Aussies! Edited to.say I grew up in a conservative Christian home & both my parents would have been disgusted to hear my brothers degrade their fellow students like that! Expulsion seems a bit harsh but posh private schools need to keep their name clean.

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@W_Poe_White
3 days ago(edited)
Prominent among the reforms needed were Whites to be in power is economic reform to end plutocracy. The system we have in the West today is NOT democracy. It is plutocracy plus manipulated elections.
I have created a brief outline of such an anti-plutocratic overhaul.
https://odysee.com/@W_Poe_White:8/draft_anti_plutocratic_reform:e
It is not good for plutocrats to be making the decisions that matter. Political leaders who truly represent the nation should make the decisions that matter. There should indeed be some moderately democratic input in the process of selecting the leadership and choosing the broad lines of policy. Instead of plutocracy there should be a moderate ETHNODEMOCRACY. This means that only White people could vote, hold office or participate in politics. Moreover, there should be further restrictions on the franchise such as a knowledge test. One man, one vote is not a good idea. Whites would also dominate the media and the economy.

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Native Ausnian
3 days ago
Why don’t you name the informant?

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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
Remember, if it’s on the “news”, it has already served its purpose, they don’t have to report anything and they are only legally protected if they lie. With “immigration”/invasion, the news can report the idea of deportations because it obviously doesn’t work. We stop the flow or it gets worse.

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@leod
3 days ago
How did the White Australians find about the continent?

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VERITAS
3 days ago
Read a history book.

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@JohnConnor
2 days ago
Your question doesnt make sense. How did they discover the continent you mean?

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@leod
2 days ago
By discovery. Are you happy with the cult narrative of “limited resources”?

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@Dive2663225
3 days ago
Hey Joel Ever here the term, “POME” ? England ( Scumbag Politics / Gov )….Sent all their undesirables to Australia, Pome… ” Prisoners of Mother England ”
If you got it, Then Bobs your Uncle” LOL
Worked offshore Perth in the Late 70’s

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@PossibiltyPilgrim
3 days ago
Joel is a wild man, he’s dotting his p’s and q’s!

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@English
3 days ago
PLEASE STREAM ON GTV

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@Alexander_Ambien
3 days ago
I swear Joel just falls asleep sometimes. That kid just checks out lol

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@MrRoboto
3 days ago
Might have something to do with the time zone difference on many streams. See you wake up at 4am and jump on a stream and not appear to be half asleep or checked out.

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@BLUTFAHNE
3 days ago
Its the drinking milk while being interviewed by Lana screams Larper

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NiggerballsJohnson
3 days ago
-or this comment screaming “faggot.”

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@BLUTFAHNE
1 day ago
You would know all about that wouldn’t you mate!

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NiggerballsJohnson
21 hours ago
Yes. I have learned to recognize & stay away from subversive faggot behavior.
-3 (Incorrect grammar & punctuation.) 66%/Grade: D-

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@BLUTFAHNE
14 hours ago
Your Hubris Blinds You.

Talmudvision Zogberg
2 days ago
Or maybe he just likes the taste of milk.

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NiggerballsJohnson
21 hours ago
lol. – o/

DOLO
7 hours ago
He needs som milk.

@John_H
3 days ago
white nationalists persecuted in Russia??? What are you smoking guys? :)))))))))) Half the Wagner group were nationalists. Almost all Russians worship Russian empire etc.

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@Dive2663225
3 days ago
LMFAOOO!! Ohhh i’m just sitting here…TREMBLING PROFUSELY!! IN ANTICIPATION…FOR SOME JEW-TOOL STUPID WOMAN..TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO, AND HOW I SHOULD BEHAVE, And if you dont? Fines you cant afford? Perhaps Jail time ?
Ughmm JOEL..still think You dont need a Firearm?? LOL

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@AS
4 hours ago
No it is Jews that want to rule the whole world and make you their underlings. The fact you want whites to run their own country does not mean you want everyone else to be less and not prosper even in their own country.

@AS
4 hours ago
The Jews want their power and calling them out is their worst fear so he is worse than all of those criminals to them and they think it is funny to put someone in amongst them. They are disgusting, psychopathic racist sadists.

@AS
4 hours ago
The world is crazy because these special people are in power with lots of money and connections.

@AS
4 hours ago
You know the special people are behind your hounding

@AS
4 hours ago
They wanted to try and off you or maim you. Happens all the time with these mobster gatekeeper elites. They don’t want you to change their narrative.

@leod
1 day ago(edited)
You’re making an impact, contrary to all the folklore comedians and religious nuts.
It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.
I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation.
A.H
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