Mark Collett: Hello everybody and welcome to tonight’s stream. We’re live on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. And I’ve got a wonderful panel for you here tonight to discuss the big issue of, well, the last week or so, and it’s obviously Trump’s war for Israel or Trump’s war on Iran for Israel, to be more precise.

 

Now, the guys I’ve got with me I’ll be introducing shortly. It’s of course Natty and Yuro from the Nationalist A-Team. We’re going to cover some of the things we covered last Sunday quickly. And then we’re going to go deeper into things. Everyone’s going to get roughly an equal time to talk. I’m not going to be putting people on an egg timer, but we’ve probably got nine or ten topics and if everyone puts sort of three, four minutes into each topic, it’ll be about a 90 minute presentation. So stick around. It’s going to be pretty entertaining or at least pretty enlightening.

 

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Now, the first is of course Natty. You know him from the Nationalist A-Team and also from numerous other streams that he’s done with me in the past. Natty’s a guy that’s been around since the beginning of PA. He’s been to all the meetings, at conferences, camps, etc, and he’s always someone that everyone likes hearing from.

 

In fact, I always say that if I had a wingman on PWR, it would be this guy here. Natty, how are you doing, my friend? I hope you are well.

 

Natty: Yeah, I’m good. I’m enjoying watching Tel Aviv burn. I’m sure we’re gonna talk about the ins and outs of what that means, but yeah, I’m good apart from that it’s been a bit of a crazy week trying to keep up with everything and I think my wife has suffered constantly looking across at me and seeing my face buried in my phone because I’m trying to, I’m monitoring the situation. But yeah, it’s very interesting times.

 

Mark Collett: Do you ever get it where you’re out on the sort of a supposed family event and the wife’s like:

 

“Why aren’t you paying any attention? All you’re doing is sitting on the phone. What can be so important that you need to be on your phone at this family event?”

 

And you’re like:

 

“Look, you know, Israel is on fire. Tel Aviv is being hit with hypersonic missiles. Chill out!”

 

Natty: It’s like:

 

“Honey, there’s cluster munitions going off above a suburb in Tel Aviv. This is really important. [chuckling] I’m watching it right now! It’s amazing!”

 

Mark Collett: Well, yeah, [chuckling] that’s kind of that’s kind of the str. I’d say that that’s the struggle that we have.!

 

Anyway, we’ve also got Yuro with us tonight. He’s obviously famous because Yuro used to do The Absolute State of Britain podcast.

 

And again, he’s a very able wing man. He has been on the National A-Team standing in for Sam. He always has good takes, he’s a funny guy and sometimes I bully him a bit, which is a little unfair, but that’s because I love him and see him as like my little brother, My little brother who needs the odd sort of monkey scrub and jab in the ribs, but he’s like my little brother, so I still love him.

 

Anyway, Yuro, how are you doing, my friend?

 

Yuro: I’m good. I’ve also been keenly paying attention watching Middle East Spectator and other such channels on Telegram. You know, it’s, I think there’s a lot more censorship obviously during the 12 Day War that was going on between Iran and Israel before. It was very much like:

 

“Well, what can we believe? How much are they not showing you?”

 

And it’s just that more. So we see all of Iran’s failures and then some things that’s like disinfo and we see all of Israel’s successes and then some, and some of that’s disinfo. And it’s kind of hard to even know what’s real.

 

[04:47]

 

Natty: That’s a good point actually because just briefly, it does seem like the information blackout from Israel was way more intense during the 12 Day War. And it seems like now because of the scope and the breadth of everything, just more is getting through or you’re able to find out more. And I’m sure this isn’t true, if you check the BBC or just some other like ZOG regime outlet, you’re not going to be seeing anything hitting Israel. But that’s what everyone’s interested in. That’s what everyone wants to see. [chuckling] You know, how many hypersonics hit Tel Aviv? This time, you know what US asset has just been blown up by a drone in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or wherever it is. That’s what people are interested in seeing. They want to see the underdog smacking the bully in the mouth. And that’s what happens when a cheap Shahed drone gets through a multi-million dollar interceptor screen and like blows up a THAAD [Terminal High Altitude Area Defense] radar system or something. That’s what everyone’s into, right? Everyone wants to see that. No one wants to see like Iranian suburbs being like caught on fire and hit with JDAMs and hit with Tomahawk missiles because that’s just brutal civilian casualties, which is what ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] is good at.

 

Yuro: Well, the funny thing is to see America in this war using the copy of the Iranian kamikaze drones. They’ve got their own basically one to one copy of the Shahed drone that they’ve now rolled out and they’re starting to fire back at the Iranians. Because it was just like the near perfect design that they’re like:

 

“We can’t make any better than this. We’re just going to copy it.”

 

Natty: Yeah. You know, for the grand and mighty American empire is reverse engineering Third World brownoid country drones [chuckling] that sound like lawnmowers when they’re flying through the sky!

 

But yeah, that’s what America’s up to these days. I mean, you can’t really claim it’s the European heritage stock that’s like the most genius country in the world. It’s just not that anymore, I’m afraid, guys.

 

Mark Collett: Well, I agree. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. So and we do actually have just. We do have a little sort of running order as well, tonight. I’m not going to read it out, but I was going to post it actually and say:

 

“Look, these are all the things we’ll be discussing.”

 

But there’s a lot to discuss and we’re going to go through things from the start. Now we’re going to speed run some of the bits we talked about on the Nationalist A-Team because for anyone who watched the Nationalist A-Team and enjoys it, look, it is a banger of a stream, except for when I get killed by somebody and get upset.

 

But other than that! It is a good stream. And if you want to watch it, there’s some takes there. And also there’s the Patriarch there as well who provides quite a lot of good comedy.

 

Anyway, so we’re going to start with the wider justification for this because there’s nowhere better to start than the official justification. Now, I’ve seen these videos where Netanyahu, they’re sort of like compilation videos of every time Netanyahu is claimed that Iran is sort of five months, five weeks, you know, two years from getting the atomic bomb. And he’s been doing this, believe it or not, for over 30 years!

 

So the first example I’ve seen of Netanyahu saying that Iran is just moments away from like nuclear weapon capability was actually all the way back in 1995. And the reason that’s interesting, …

 

Yuro: There are people dying in this war on the American side who have not been alive longer than Iran was supposedly two weeks away from a nuclear weapon!

 

Mark Collett: That’s a very good point. That is Yuro. But you get minus points for butting in. You’ve been told about that.

 

Natty: Oh, no [word unclear] battalion!

 

Mark Collett: Wiffle bat to give you a spanking. Right. So these fake nuclear claims that are interesting for two reasons.

 

Firstly, because they are blatantly fake! It’s been, to my knowledge, 31 years. And Yuro does make, … Look to Yuro’s credit, he makes a very good point. You know, the idea that this has been going on longer than some of the people on these American battleships have been alive is incredible!

 

But one thing that struck me immediately with this was I remember living through the time of the Iraq war. And at the time of the Iraq war, Weapons of Mass Destruction became one of the most maligned phrases to have ever been used in British Parliament, to the point that where if you now say “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, it’s sort of synonymous with war crimes, lies and a regime that took us into what was essentially an illegal war. You know, there was no Weapons of Mass Destruction.

 

But one thing that shocks me is this is the kind of thing where people just seem to have either forgotten this or put it to one side.

 

So the Daily Mail is a classic example of this. The Daily Mail is sort of the populist Right-wing, you know, vote Reform, consider voting Conservative newspaper. And they were all against Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction and exposing his lies and speaking out about it once it was exposed via the Chilcot inquiry.

 

But now the Daily Mail, like:

 

“We need this war. You know, usually we’re against war, but in this instance, this needs to happen!”

 

And you’ve got all these shill commenters in the sections underneath the Daily Mail articles in the comment sections, and they’re all saying things like:

 

“Oh, I’m against the war, but this is an exception.”

 

And I don’t know whether these are real people, idiot Boomer types or that’s not all Boomers. But you know, the sort. I mean the kind of person that says:

 

“Oh, well, I’m against the people on the small boats, but I would let the genuine refugees in all. Yes! And if somebody comes here and learns to speak English, well, he’s as British as Yorkshire pudding, isn’t he!”

 

Those sort. Is it one of them or is it a shill account?

 

[11:04]

 

But I think it’s really interesting that exactly the same justification for the attack is being used, as was used in Iraq. But the Iraq, War retrospectively is possibly the most maligned conflict and the conflict seen as the most unjust conflict. Probably post World War II. I’d have said that would have gone to Vietnam at one point, but Iraq seems to have, maybe because it’s more recent, seems to have eclipsed that.

 

So what do you guys think?

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously this is what they’re saying and we’re going to discuss next the real reason and what we think the real reason is. But what do you think to this sort of fake reasoning for going to war?

 

Natty: Well, just listening to you there, I haven’t done this because I was just reminded by what you said. But I’m fairly certain if you went back to the 2000s and had a look at the lead up to the Iraq war, you, amongst the Daily Mail articles, you wouldn’t find opposition to the actual war itself, because none of these publications were really opposed to it in any meaningful way and certainly weren’t like trying to rally people against the war. So you know, post Iraq war when everyone was kind of saying what disaster it was, I’m sure the Daily Mail were jumping on board that.

 

But as even now publications that you would think would be against the war in Iran are kind of talking around the edge of it whilst not decrying the war and certainly not being like anti-war, like proper anti-war publications and laying out all the connections between the Epstein regime and the people connecting in it like Mandelson and like Boris Johnson and Tony Blair and all the rest of it.

 

But yeah, it’s striking. I mean, one of the things I put in the chat earlier was that before this happened. Well, okay, let’s let me take it back a little bit. Before Iraq, the reason why the term “Weapons of Mass Destruction” became such a big thing is because the media and the government, Blair’s regime spent so much time and energy trying to get public approval for it, because they felt like, they obviously felt like they needed it. They needed a justification. They needed something to sell to the British people as to why it was a good idea, why it was necessary to go into Iraq.

 

Now that just hasn’t happened this time. Because I think they understand that the forces controlling the “Epstein Empire” as people are calling it, which is fairly apt, simply are not in the shadows anymore. You know, this stuff has been laid out. Israel is pulling the strings and it’s pulling the strings of America and it’s America’s pulling the strings of Europe because essentially Europe is just a colony of the United States. So they don’t feel they need to justify it so much.

 

Now, obviously there’s like regime mouthpieces and stoolies like Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray, the Daily Mail and all the rest of it, who are now going out there and running cover and trying to make this war popular or make it so that it seems like:

 

“Well, it’s not a job any of us want to do, but it’s necessary and we need to do this for stability and peace!”

 

But I just don’t think the public are buying it. And the public for the most part didn’t buy it with Iraq, but that doesn’t stop that happening. And they’re not buying it with Iran either.

 

But there hasn’t been a groundswell of opposition to it in the same way as Iraq because they haven’t spent so long trying to justify it. And for a lot of people this just came out the blue. Not for anyone who’s kind of a properly dissident to the kind of Epstein Empire. This didn’t come out of the blue. This was fairly predictable. But probably just for your average person sitting at home and getting on with life, this kind of immediate blow up in the Middle East, where oil prices are about to skyrocket, petrol prices creeping up and we’re probably about to experience an energy crisis, just came out straight out of the blue! And the justifications, unlike Iraq, are all post hoc. They, it wasn’t a media build up to a war, it’s like a media cover plot after the war has started.

 

Yuro: What I find interesting as well is as you say, with the Iraq thing, there was a lot of build up and there was:

 

“Let’s get the UN involved, let’s condemn them, let’s build a coalition, let’s get Britain involved.”

 

But the other thing is they never said Iraq has a nuke. It was always this nebulous “Weapons of Mass Destruction”. And it’s kind of like the, well, we’re going to say that they have Weapons of Mass Destruction and that’s like we will say:

 

“Oh, actually they have chemical weapons which we’re going to classify as Weapons of Mass Destruction. And we’re going to hope that we can gin that up in people’s minds to be like, ‘Oh, they have a nuclear weapon’.”

 

And it was like:

 

“We won’t explicitly state they have a nuclear weapon. We’ll just try and make people think they have a nuclear weapon.”

 

And then there was the thing about:

 

“They can strike us in 45 minutes with their Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

But now they just come out and say:

 

“They’re building a nuke!”

 

It’s not Weapons of Mass Destruction. And as you say, that’s because the term is just completely lost all validity. You know, people at the moment, they hear that, they just know it’s Iraq, War 2. But they’re not even like trying to do that lesser thing.

 

It’s kind of like what they do with racism, where you’ve got like the small definition and the big definition. The Weapons of Mass Destruction is like what they do with racism.

 

So if you’re a “racist”, it’s like you just think that different people are different and you care about your own people. Well, that’s a racist. But the moment you get labelled a racist, it’s like you’re a “supremacist who wants to murder everyone who’s not you”. Well, the Weapons of Mass Destruction is chemical weapons could be a weapon of mass destruction, but the moment you get labelled with that, all of a sudden:

 

“You’ve got nukes, you’re dangerous!”

 

[17:31]

 

Natty: Yeah. And the 45 minute claim was like, they can hit the tip of Cyprus. If they drive a Scud launcher right to the edge of the Iraqi border and fire it, they might just be able to hit Cyprus! And that was translated into British headlines as “British territory”. Yeah:

 

“They can hit us in 45 minutes! Oh my God, the sky’s falling!”

 

And the reality was, it was Scud missiles and some Sarin gas artillery shells which have a range of about 10 or 15 kilometers, which they used in Halabja [1988 against Kurds] apparently. I mean, we saw, I, we got trained on that in the CBRA regiment of what happened in Halabja with the Sarin gas shells. But that was passed into, like you said, Weapons of Mass Destruction. Very nebulous. Well, not easy to disseminate term, but very little detail and very little meaning. And you could say to people:

 

“Well, they’ve got Scud launches on trucks which can fly however many kilometers it is, and they’ve got some Sarin gas shells.”

 

But these, in terms of where the United Kingdom is and the rest of Europe, these are absolutely meaningless! And again, it was just to justify the Greater Israel Project and take out one of Israel’s enemies and destroy one of Israel’s enemies.

 

Yuro: Well, I was having to think about this before we started this stream. And I said to myself, you know:

 

“There is one state, there is a rogue state in the Middle East that has Weapons of Mass Destruction.”

 

And by that I mean a boatload of actual nuclear weapons. And they have the capability of targeting Britain, …

 

Natty: And if rumours are to be believed, then the Samson Option is a real thing and Israel is the lunatic state that has no compunction about using these things. Now, I don’t know if that’s a real thing or whether that’s just something that gets disseminated to scare everyone.

 

But you’ve got to remember the only people who have used nukes as an actual weapon of war against living targets is the Epstein Regime in the Second World War. And I don’t separate the people who are running America now from those people. I mean, it’s the same group of people.

 

Yuro: If you look at the way that they behave on the world stage, the way that they behave against the Palestinians, the way that they behave against the Iranians, it wouldn’t be out of character for them to just lash out at everyone else for “not defending them hard enough”. But according to the publicly available information, they have intercontinental ballistic missiles with a range of 11 and a half thousand kilometers, which basically means they can hit everywhere on the planet with the exception of kind of east Australia, New Zealand and some bits of South America.

 

Natty: So those parts of South America where all the Nazis fled to, so unfortunately they [chuckling] can’t touch them!

 

Yuro: The parts where Javier Milei, who’s converted to Judaism, is currently in charge.

 

Natty: Oh no!

 

Yuro: And they might also not be able to quite hit Mexico where (((Claudia Sheinbaum))) is in charge.

 

Mark Collett: Oh, dear! Well, talking about the control that jews wield, let’s talk about what we think is the real reason for this.

 

Now, I’m going to go straight out and say it. I believe the real reason for this is the Greater Israel Project. I think the Greater Israel Project is something that has gathered pace in the last few years, especially under Trump. We’ve seen the attacks on Gaza, we’ve seen the attacks on Lebanon. We’ve seen the fall of the Syrian regime, which was obviously heavily influenced by Israel, who were helping Islamic terrorists in the region. You know, the head chopper ones that we’re told are the great threat to peace and justice and decency, yet Israel is actually supporting those people!

 

And we’ve also seen Israel be involved in the fall of other regimes. Israel were famously involved. And this came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. I actually did a video on this. Israel were very famously involved with meeting, … And Tony Blair admitted this under oath in the Chilcot Inquiry. He met influential jewish leaders from the then current Israeli regime. And he said:

 

“The meetings had nothing to do with military intelligence. They had everything to do with overall strategy and long term goals.”

 

So take that as you will. But I’m taking that as they were heavily involved in getting rid of Saddam Hussein.

 

[22:24]

 

And I think it’s obviously within Israel’s interest to topple almost every sovereign regime in the region. And they do this quite openly. They are doing it more openly now. They’re getting away with it, sadly. And this is a blatant example of that. Although they’ve loosely talked about the nuke thing, like we said, Natty did make an important point that they felt it’s less necessary to sell this like they sold the Iraq, War. And in some interviews, members of the American regime have simply said:

 

“Yeah, we just want to kill these people. We want to kill them, we want to take them out. This is about regime change. This is about Israel.”

 

And I believe it was Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said:

 

“It was Israel who forced our hand. They began this and we are there to defend them and assist them. So when they began the attacks, we were forced into going along with it.”

 

Now, Trump then furiously denied this, but it’s a very interesting admission from Marco Rubio.

 

So I think this is all about the Greater Israel Project. And I believe that has been the driving force or the driving ideology behind the destabilisation of the Middle East.

 

Natty: Yeah, totally! And it kind of behooves me to say this and to get people to realise that whereas we’re living kind of day to day and prices of things go up and you’re worried about your children. We’ve been totally separated from any idea of our history and our lineage and where we’ve come from and where we might be going.

 

So it’s kind of hard to understand for us the jewish mindset. And this is a plan that’s been in the making for a very long time, years, decades, where once Israel was created and they have a vision of the Greater Israel Project. There’s a whole, there’s a list of countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt. And through various machinations, they’ve all been, one by one, they’ve been taken out or pacified. Egypt is basically paid off by the United States and is under the sway of Israel, has a border with Israel, but it doesn’t do anything about their genociding of the Palestinians and the destabilising and eventual collapse of the Syrian state. What happened in Libya with Gaddafi ending up with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street, and the subsequent flooding of Europe with migrants, which is a kind of side issue we can get onto if you want. But all of this, …

 

Mark Collett: I’ve got that further down the line, mate, that comes at the end, if you look at the show notes, I’ve actually said:

 

“You know, what are the actual repercussions for this, both for the West and for the Middle East?”

 

And that’s one of the things we will talk about.

 

Natty: Yeah, for sure. And it’s clear now, I mean, in my opinion and the opinion of other people who have been following this, that the reason Trump was so heavily pushed into a second term was that the people who are running him and the jews in Israel believe that he was the best chance of getting this done. You know, this final push to topple Iran, which basically gets rid of the last bastion of resistance to Israel. And you’ve got to think:

 

“Well, why is Israel so hell bent on getting rid of people who resist them?”

 

You think, well, the people who are opposing them, the only real people who are opposing them, committing genocide in Gaza, Europe was on board with it. The United States was supplying them with bombs and had carrier groups in the Mediterranean. The United Kingdom, our own government, was flying surveillance flights over Gaza and letting Cyprus be used as a refueling and an air base for Israel. So Europe was aiding in the genocide in Gaza.

 

And it was only Hezbollah and you know, funded via Iran that was really attacking, and the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were attacking Israel and trying to hold them account for genociding the Gazan people. And that’s unacceptable for Israel to have that resistance in the region, even though the attacks on it are totally justified and being used as like, defense against people who are being hurt and destroyed in this like, brutal way by this lunatic, lunatic group of people who have been squatting on the edge of a Mediterranean.

 

So the justifications the real justification is the toppling of Iran as a coherent state. And I’ll touch on this before I pass this over to Yuro. But there’s talk of regime change. You know, that’s what they say:

 

“We’re trying to enact regime change here.”

 

But that isn’t quite true. They’re not really interested in a regime swap where they swap one regime for another. What they’re interested in is total destabilisation! Just like with Syria, just like with Iraq, just like with Libya, where these are just failed states with tribal warlords with like Mossad and CIA run groups running around HTS, ISIS, all of these people. Which means no coherent defense, no missile bases, no civil defense, nothing! Just a load of groups that you can pay this group to fight this group and you know, you can pay these guys or stop paying these guys and just let chaos reign while Israel just expands and expands and expands and gets to do what it wants.

 

You know, kind of reminiscent, I’ll just finish on this. Kind of reminiscent to how if you import millions and millions of foreign people into a small island nation, it also becomes destabilised and coherent resistance or coherent defense or coherent politics kind of become very difficult and a very well motivated minority can rule the lot! So there’s your answer as to the real reasons for this war.

 

[28:45]

 

 

Yuro: A few things I wanted to pick up on there. Just as Mark was speaking, you kept using the term “regime”. And that’s like one of those MKUltra trigger words that they’ve put in people’s minds that like “regime is bad, regime is authoritarian, evil government”. It was all it was always the “Saddam regime” and the “Iran regime”. They’re just governments. They’re a different form of government. You know some of them are more or less Democratic than others, but it’s like this regime thing is a trigger word. And along that same lines, Natty, you mentioned the Houthis as “rebels”. I think the ones that we call Houthis are pretty much just the government of Yemen now. I mean, and they have pockets of what’s left of the people that they overthrew. But they’re basically just the government of Yemen. They’re not rebels anymore. They’re not a regime, they’re just that government.

 

But obviously this was all part of a plan. This is something that they’ve been going at for a very long time. They had the Project for a New American Century [PNAC] where they said we want to hit like seven countries in 10 years. And they’ve basically got all of them.

 

I mean, they wanted to get Iraq, they wanted to get Syria, they wanted to get Libya, and of course it’s neocon jews behind it all.

 

So that’s been happening for a very long time. There’s a reason why they caught a bunch of jewish Israelis dancing on 911*, already filming before the first plane went into those towers. They were dancing around, they were happy because they knew that was the excuse that they needed to start their own genocidal campaign. And it’s like dominoes falling. They get this one, then they get that one. And I mean, what happens to Libya? He, Gaddafi, gave up his weapons, chemical weapons and things like that.

 

[* 9/11: A false flag carried out by ZOG with Israel being the lead behind its planning and execution. The aim was to unleash the War OF Terror on the countries around Israel, among other aims. See See Also links below, especially the work by Christopher Bollyn.]

 

And as soon as they were gone, they were like:

 

“Right, well he’s defenseless, we can go in there and kill him now!”

 

So that’s what they proceeded to do.

 

And the other thing as well, like looking at what they’re doing to Iran, I mean, you talked about them wanting to destabilise them. As far as I understand, because they can’t really hit these military targets. They don’t know exactly where all the underground bases are and where they’re being launched from. So they’re targeting, I mean, apart from like primary schools for girls and things like that, which they do just because they’re evil and want to blow up kids when they’re not abusing kids in other ways, they’re just like targeting police stations and things like that. Just like blow up all the police stations in the country and hope it destabilises that way!

 

And of course they had this gayop a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they tried to incite some sort of terrorist uprising in Iran and that failed.

 

And obviously they wanted to coincide these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: But I was going to say that was obviously hilariously mistimed. [chuckling] Right? So they fermented this terrorist uprising and meanwhile they haven’t got all like the military assets in place to strike it. I mean, you might have a better idea of this than me, you guys, but maybe they thought in the January uprisings that they like funded all these terrorist groups to try and overthrow the government of Iran. Maybe they thought that it was still going to be going on now while they moved all these carrier groups and pulled their troops out of the Gulf oil state bases. Maybe they thought it was still going to be going on and that the Iran government was still going to be fighting these guys, but it was crushed within like a few days. Right!

 

Yuro: I have a feeling that maybe they were trying to like wait a little bit longer, but it was about to be compromised and they thought:

 

“If we don’t do it now, we miss the opportunity entirely.”

 

So they had to launch it. And they spent so long getting carriers into place to attack Iran because they’ve had these problems with the sewage system on the Gerald Ford, which obviously some people are saying that’s like a deliberate thing, that soldiers or sailors have clogged the tubes on purpose to destroy the system because they don’t want to go and die and be the next false flag. But they’ve had problems with that before. So it’s not entirely out of the realms of possibility that it is sort of coincidental to some degree.

 

But yeah, obviously that was something that delayed them. So I mean we can be glad about that because it’s meant that Iran’s not facing these two things at the same time.

 

Natty: I’m not sure. Look, I’m not a, like a military analyst or anything, but I’m not sure even if the like Epstein empire, the Epstein regime, had fermented this terrorist uprising whilst they carried out this first strike against Khomeini in a little girl’s school for some reason, whether if those two things occurred, coincided, even then, whether they’d have been able to pull off this kind of toppling of the regime. It seems like, …

 

Yuro: Regime?

 

Natty: Look, [chuckling] it’s the word everyone uses here! I can try, but I’m as susceptible to the MKUltra* terms as everyone else. Right? I’m just not sure it would have worked even if they had pulled it off at the same time.

 

[* MKUltra was a covert program run by the CIA from 1953 to 1973. Its primary goal was to explore methods of mind control and behavior modification through various means, including drugs and psychological techniques. MKUltra is widely condemned for its unethical practices, including: Lack of Consent: Many subjects were unaware they were part of experiments. Abusive Techniques: Included torture, isolation, and drugging without consent. The term MKUltra is a CIA cryptonym: “MK” is an arbitrary prefix standing for the Office of Technical Service and “Ultra” is an arbitrary word out of a dictionary used to name this project.]

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, we’re going to go on to that anyway, so let’s move a little bit further forward because there are other things we want to talk about.

 

Now, I think the next thing we need to talk about, we’ve placed this into context, talk about the Greater Israel Project. Now I think the next thing that’s very important is discussing the issue of these fake negotiations that America has had with the likes of Iran before all of this kicked off.

 

And they obviously had similar sort of fake negotiations with, I think it was Venezuela, didn’t they? And then they go in anyway. This is something that America started doing, you know, fake negotiations, but then we come and get you anyway.

 

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Yuro: I think they had a similar thing with the, like Hezbollah and Hamas, didn’t they?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, there’s multiple examples.

 

But what I’m getting at is a real, and we won’t labour this because we spoke about this extensively on the Nationalist A-Team the other night, but when we were talking about that, we did make the point that fundamentally at one point the idea of going in somewhere you know, negotiating, but then using negotiations as a reason or as an excuse to then hit another country. So the negotiations aren’t real negotiations. They’re cover that gets the other side to drop their guard. So, it’s like walking up somebody in a bar saying:

 

“Look, mate, let’s just settle this amicably. Let me buy you a drink. What do you want?”

 

And when the other guy turns to have a look at the list of craft beers, you sucker punch him! You know, that’s an underhanded thing to do. Everyone would be like:

 

“Wow, that’s pretty much scandalous! We don’t want to see that kind of behaviour. That’s the kind of behaviour that’s not becoming of an honourable man.”

 

And there used to be this narrative that the West was honourable, that we were the good guys. And I’ll say these fake negotiations are being used as a means to cover up an attack which is I’m imminent. I do think that is a really shady thing to do.

 

And I think that as time goes by, we are going to see more and more people be unwilling to negotiate with the West. Like, why would Vladimir Putin or China or any other nation, North Korea, negotiate with Trump? Why would any foreign leader trust going to America or sitting in a negotiation room with the Americans when they assassinate leaders, carry out fake negotiations, use the hand of friendship to lock their opponent’s hand in place before they sucker punch them? You know, it’s like holding one hand out to shake the other guy’s hand and when he starts giving the handshake, you just sucker punch them! You know, it’s awful! I mean, what do you guys think to this?

 

I think this is going to fundamentally change the way, the implication of this, is going to change the way that every other nation does business with America. And it’ll put America on a even people like the Europeans, who are essentially vassal states of America, are not going to be trusting of Trump again or America.

 

Yuro: Well, Europe is already not going to be trusting of Trump and America because of the whole thing with Greenland for a start. But I mean, I hope at the end of this, obviously Iran’s going to hold out. They’re going to continue to resist until America and Israel, …

 

Mark Collett: This is the summation, what you hope for comes at the end, like, stay on, …

 

Yuro: It’s related to this! It’s related to this. I was going to say I hope that Israel and America run out of interceptor missiles. Iran fights them to a standstill. And they say:

 

“Right, we will negotiate with Trump in this place.”

 

He goes there to negotiate, and then, …

 

Natty: They just blow him up! [chuckling]

 

Yuro: And it would be entirely justified on moral grounds and on the grounds that it’s already been done to them.

 

Natty: They would cry bitter tears if the same tactics they had used, these same underhand, cowardly, sniveling, weak tactics were used on them! And this is something to point out to. I say I’m gonna use Boomer, but, like, Boomer mindset, Civnat, kind of Tommy Robinson-tard mindset where like:

 

“Oh, yeah, no, we’re the good guys and we should stamp these dirty terrorists into the ground! They’re terrorists!”

 

It’s like your pedo jew empire assassinates little girls for some reason, I guess because they’ve just got bloodlust and we can talk about the Purim Fest, if we want. Assassinates little girls, assassinates world leaders, which is supposed to be off the table. Totally violates, like, any notion of the Geneva Convention or the kind of rules of war and does it in a cowardly way. This is like your medieval knight marching out to the front of a battle under a white flag to negotiate terms and then just pulling a knife and stabbing the negotiator. Your entire army would be, they’re like, forfeit. And the enemy army would be totally justified in just slaughtering prisoners and like, just pillaging and doing whatever it wants at that stage! You’ve set the rules. You’re supposed to be the powerful, the one who’s setting out exactly how things are going to go down. And you open the conflict or the latest round of the conflict with an underhand cowardly assassination under the flag of truce and blowing up 170 schoolgirls! Well, I’m sorry, but what space have you now given for quarters? None! And no one’s going to trust you, and they shouldn’t trust you.

 

And the other world powers looking on Russia and China, who we’re going to touch on in a little while, like Mark said, they’re not going to be trustworthy. They’re going to have that in their minds anytime America tries to talk to them, anytime the jew empire reaches out to say:

 

“Oh, we just want to discuss the Ukraine war and negotiate terms in the Ukraine war.”

 

And like, Yuro said, they would be totally justified in shooting down like diplomatic planes, like bombing, like delegations, peace delegations, assassinating the head of state. Who’s to tell anyone now that that is a wrong or immoral thing to do now that supposedly the world police and a global superpower and the most moral army in the world, Israel, has carried out exactly that, such a thing.

 

And I don’t need to belabour the point, but they’ve been doing this for a long time. And you can look back as far as Dresden and the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, to say:

 

“Well, that’s how these people act! And people who oppose them should act accordingly and plan accordingly.”

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I agree. And not only this or not only what you guys have said, but I do think it’s very interesting that on top of everything you guys have said, there is also the issue of Russia and Zelensky.

 

Now obviously if Russia had wanted to, they could have bombed Kiev, day one of the conflict and absolutely just beheaded the regime. Now Russia never did that. Now I’m not saying Russia are the good guys or shilling for Russia, but it is an interesting comparison to see that everything that Russia has been accused of, the West has done and the West has done it in a much more sort of egregious fashion. It’s quite interesting.

 

And this so-called “Axis of Evil” now appears to be far less evil than the “good guys”. The “good guys” have shown, I said that in inverted commas. Have shown their hand. They’ve, it’s a mask off moment. I don’t know if anyone wants to add something to this because we did talk about this a lot, but I’ll give you the chance to follow up if anyone wants to talk about this.

 

Natty: Yeah, go on. Yuro, you go first.

 

Yuro: I was just gonna say it’s a complete moral inversion. It’s, we are supposedly the good guys because we fight against the bad guys. And they’re all terrorists. They’re inherently evil. I was listening to, I think this was on the Daily Shoah they were talking about basically the term “terrorist” is a social construction. It’s just a word we can use to label somebody and all of a sudden their grievances illegitimate. We don’t have to stick to the rules of engagement. We can just murder them, we can murder their families and put them in jail. We just put this label on them and they are inherently evil.

 

But you know, the Ayatollah was never in the Epstein files. That’s the difference.

 

Natty: Yeah, the Ayatollah never called me a goyim or demographically replaced my people or ethnically cleansed my people. So you know, what beef do I have with the Ayatollah, at this point? And like Mark was saying, the Russians opened Ukraine, the Ukraine conflict by striking out military targets. They were landing at Hostomel Airport and controlling like major supply routes. And the Jewpedo regime starts its war with an assassination of a leader, or a spiritual leader. Not a military strategist or anything like that. A spiritual leader who’s in his 80s as well as his granddaughter and his family members all blown up. And like blowing up a school with 12 to 17 year old school girls in it. Now you tell me, yeah, you tell me who the bad guys are.

 

Yuro: It’s worth pointing out as well that the entire war in Ukraine or although it was something that had been kind of slowly building up for a while, that NATO had been expanding further and further eastward, it was really brought to the fore because Russia was supporting Assad in Syria. And the Epstein empire had to take out Syria in order to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hezbollah and getting to Gaza.

 

And so they started this whole other conflict to take Russia’s focus away from helping their allies in Syria. And that allowed them to get in there and destroy Syria. And it’s all part of the same program.

 

Natty: The same grand strategy. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people kind of don’t seem to understand that. They’re like:

 

“Well that seems, that seems too far fetched that the Pedojew regime would start a war with Russia in Ukraine just to help topple the Syrian government. Or the Pedo jew regime would kidnap a South American president just to support an ongoing or like support a future war against Iran with oil, you know, oil routes and all the rest of it.”

 

Because people are like:

 

“No, that can’t be right, you know, 50,000 Ukrainian men dead and God knows how many Russian men dead just to tie up Russian forces to leave Syria exposed?”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, that’s how these people think. That’s what they’re willing to do.”

 

And that’s what they did do. And in Syria, Russian troops, Russian air power in Syria was halting Israeli aggression and you know, Western aggression. It was the CIA, it was MI6 and was Mossad, was paying ISIS, which has now become HTS, which is basically ISIS, to mess up Syria and mess with Assad and sanctions on Assad’s government that was turning the place inhospitable. Making it so that just to live there was pain and it wasn’t the government was obviously suffering and trying its best, but the people suffer when you put sanctions on a country. So on behest of like jewish paedophiles and Israel, America just makes people’s lives a misery around the world, everywhere! You know, Ukrainian men dead, Syrian families wiped out, little girls in Iran, hundreds of thousands of civilians everywhere, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Libya, all dead! Because jewish paedophiles just cannot get enough blood.

 

Yuro: And until the extent that they have any support for the Israeli regime in places like the UK, people in the UK who support Israel, they see this as a war against the Muslims. And they hate Muslims because of what gangs of Pakistani men do to White girls after jewish people like Peter Mandelson and his friend Tony Blair, people like that brought them to our country.

 

And it works for them both ways because it destroys the youth of the British people. It destroys our homogeneous country. It creates resentment against Muslims which they can then use and say:

 

“Well, don’t you hate the Muslims, you hate the Pakistanis who are raping children over here!”

 

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Natty: Yeah:

 

“Live vicariously as we bomb them in the Middle East. Oh, we’re getting those dirty Muslims for you know, goyim! Don’t worry, we’re bombing them. You love it, don’t you? Rah, rah, ra! Let’s go Israel! Israel’s defending you! If we weren’t fighting them here, you’d be fighting them in your streets!”

 

Well, how? Okay, thanks, Schlomo. How did they get onto my streets in the first place? Anyone fancy answer that, answering that question?

 

Mark Collett: No, that’s a very good point. Now obviously we discussed that.

 

So when we discussed the Ayatollah being killed, we’ve discussed the schoolgirls being killed. I mean, know, as you said, the paedophiles are now murdering children. And this says something about America and Israel.

 

Now, I don’t think this was an accident. I don’t think that school being hit was in any way an accident. I think they did that on purpose. I think that’s the sort of people that they are. I think they do things like this because it pleases them to do things like this. And it pleases them to do things like this because to them this is they could avoided doing this, but they don’t want to avoid doing this. What they want to do is they want to cause as much hurt and pain as possible. Now these missile systems that they have, they are probably the best missile systems in the world. They understand where they can strike and where they can’t strike. Those missiles are pretty damn accurate.

 

So when they hit a school, I think that’s by some sort of sick design. I don’t believe it’s accidental. I don’t know if you guys want to add anything to that.

 

Natty: Yeah, there’s a term called “sub-metre accuracy” and I think Tomahawk missiles, I’m not sure about JDAMs, but certainly Tomahawk missiles and the types of missiles that the Jewpedo regime uses all have sub-metre accuracy.

 

So the claims about:

 

“Well, this girl school was next to a Iranian military base or something.”

 

These munitions have sub-metre accuracy, which means they can target within a metre, which is where they drop these bombs. I mean, are we supposed to pretend that the Pedojew regime is somehow like squeamish about blowing up children and civilians? A regime that goes out of its way to target hospitals and suburbs and then when it’s blown up the hospitals and suburbs, then blows up the tent cities that spring up around it to house all the refugees and injured people that you’ve just like totally displaced.

 

So these people are not squeamish about killing civilians then. They never have been. They never have been. Not for the last 70 years and probably not before that.

 

Yuro: We’re always told that we have the most advanced, precise, ultra accurate munitions. We can take out a terrorist in a crowd without killing anyone else:

 

“Oh, look, we dropped a bomb dead centre on that school. Total accident! We don’t know how it happened!”

 

Do you remember when they were attacking Gaza? I mean they’re always attacking Gaza, but in particular in the aftermath of October 7th and there were various organisations that went there to try to provide food relief and they had a car with a big logo on the top that says, “Food Kitchen”. It’s a non-governmental organisation, it’s a charity that’s bringing food to starving people in Gaza. And they sent a munition. It’s like a missile, but instead of a bomb, it’s got just like razor blades all around it.

 

And you can see the picture of the car, they sent it straight through the roof, directly on top of the driver’s seat and cut that man to bits! That’s how accurate they can be when they want to be. So they have the ability to do that they have the ability to do it. It is not an accident when they, …

 

Natty: The other interesting thing about the strike on the girls school was in the immediate aftermath, like there were shills online, there were online shills and righttoids and jews and all sorts of like scum coming out the woodwork claiming again, like they used to do in Gaza or like they have done in Gaza, that:

 

“Oh, this was an Iranian missile that kind of missed a target or misfired as they fired it out of Tehran and fell back on the girl school.”

 

Which was utterly disproved! And yet, you know, none of the people who were claiming this was like an Iranian misfire will ever be held to account or ever be made to apologise or made to like confront their lies about what this was. So the misinformation is hot and heavy.

 

But if you think, like I said, I’m going to reiterate this, if you think the Pedojew regime is squeamish about blowing up children, you’re mistaken. They’re not squeamish about blowing them up. Probably the only disappointing thing for the Pedojew regime is that these girls were blown up and didn’t have a chance to be like, sent off to Epstein’s island or something like that.

 

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Mark Collett: Thank you. The next thing is, this is quite interesting because it’s not the first time that Israel have admitted to bombing civilian populations. And we’ve discussed that they did it in Lebanon. They do it quite indiscriminately, they do it in Gaza.

 

But one thing’s quite interesting about these particular bombings and you guys made the point that they were bombing police stations. And I think they believe that they bombed police stations and took out government leaders and spiritual leaders, that there was going to be a revolution. And we’ve constantly heard this nonsense in the West, haven’t we? That the Iranian regime is hideously unpopular, that normal people in Iran hate the Ayatollah, they hate the government, the police, every organ of the state. I’d actually say more people in Britain hate Keir Starmer than people in Iran hate the Ayatollah.

 

But one thing that’s been very interesting is post these strikes and these indiscriminate missile attacks on schools, police stations and other sites around Tehran, we’ve seen more people out in the street supporting the Iranian government and wanting to fight back against America. I think that really underlines the fact that this idea that the Iranian people are all kept down, they have the Ayatollah’s boot on their head, this is nothing more than propaganda.

 

Natty: Oh, of course! It’s quite interesting to juxtapose it.

 

Can you imagine like a protest, or a march with hundreds of thousands of people ever coming out for any European government? I mean, the closest you got in the West was Trump, right? And that is quickly turned to ash in a lot of people’s mouths. He’s been exposed as basically just another neocon.

 

But if you put yourself in the shoes of like an Iranian, a normal Iranian citizen who’s just watched every single country where his kind of ethnic people, I know that Persians are maybe looked at differently than other people are on the Gulf states, whatever. All the other countries around him who aren’t in league with Israel have been like, brutally broken up and just left as failed states. Well, you’re going to want to cling to anything that stands up to these people and anything that resists being destroyed by them, because you know that if your government falls, that’s the end of any semblance of stability or normality you’ve got. You’re just going to have to either flee or deal with a failed state of a nation. So, of course they support it!

 

And you listen to like the BBC or Piers Morgan or some of these shows and you would think that, …

 

Mark Collett: Andrew Neil!

 

Natty: Yeah, he’s the worst! He’s a total Zio boot licker, man! I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen! [LOL] But like, you listen to these people and you’d think that every single person in Iran is just waiting, crouched behind their door, ready to rise up and take out this hugely unpopular government that everyone hates.

 

And like you said, there’s no government in Europe or anywhere in the West that is as popular with its people as the Iranian government. So take that as you will.

 

Yuro: Obviously, you know, Iran, I mean, I’m guessing, but much like most of the Middle East is awash with weapons from previous gayops and plans that we’ve had to overthrow them in the past.

 

But if you turn this around and let’s say some foreign actor blew up Parliament with every MP in it and blew up every diversity police station across the country and just dropped a bunch of weapons the chance of having a revolution would be much more likely here than it ever would be over there!

 

Natty: Yeah. And just to add on to this point, funnily enough, the strikes on Bahrain, and Bahrain’s a tiny little island nation. I mean, it used to be part of Iran. But the strikes on Bahrain look like they might actually foment a revolution because they’re kind of the Pedojew empire installed monarchy in Bahrain has lost its grip thanks to the Americans retreating and the actual people in Bahrain absolutely hate their rulers. And possibly, you know, news blackout and all the rest of it might actually foment a popular revolution in Bahrain and change governments there, [chuckling] which is supposed to be like a stronghold for the American empire and the Epstein regime and the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, which controls the Persian Gulf or it used to control the Persian Gulf until the Pedojew regime started this war. So yeah, good one, guys. How’s it going? How’s this war going for you?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I would say that you’ve got a very good point there. And it’s a good point because we are moving on to how is this war going? Well, this is the interesting thing. Trump was elected as the guy who was going to be the President of peace and he was also elected on this America First ticket.

 

The idea that he was going to look after the average American. Now since Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, we’ve seen sort of panic buying. Oil prices have spiked. This is something that isn’t helping normal Americans who are already struggling with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.

 

And I would say, for Trump, when you actually look at, you say, how’s it going for him personally? It’s not going well domestically, but his approval ratings are at an all time low. They’re actually beneath his previous approval ratings for his first term and actually beneath Biden’s approval ratings. Now he’s getting savaged.

 

Now obviously he’s going out on TV:

 

“Oh, none of these mean anything. This is rubbish! The people love me!”

 

And I’ve spoken about this before. Post World War II don’t think any Western leader has built a cult of personality as intense as Trump has done with the MAGA movement. Trump has truly built a cult of personality where people see him as the supreme leader.

 

But I think that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing! It’s a good thing because you have a dedicated support base. It’s a bad thing because often you become insulated and you only listen to that dedicated support base. And because you have that insulation, because you have that ring of people cheering you on and like:

 

“Up Trump! Yeah, you’re doing it right! You’re getting it right! Donald’s got it perfect! Bomb them all!”

 

You don’t actually hear the people outside of your immediate circle. And I think Trump has got this wrong. I think this is going to bring more misery on normal Americans. And I also think it could cost the Republicans the midterm.

 

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Yuro: I don’t think Trump got this wrong. I think Trump did this because his handlers wanted him to do this. I mean, was it Marco Rubio who basically came out and said Israel told us they were going to attack and when they attacked, we were going to get hit in response, so we just had to join them, basically, the tail wags the dog. We had to join in. They forced our hand.

 

And of course, Trump’s all over the Epstein files. He’s part of the Epstein class. He is part of that jewish Zionist Occupied Government [ZOG]. He’s not doing it because he thinks it’s going to make him popular. He’s doing it because he is either severely compromised or that’s just his team.

 

Natty: Yeah. And to assume that Trump cares anymore, I mean, he’s not up for a third term. And if he doesn’t care, do you think the jews who are running him and the Epstein, whoever takes over from Epstein cares about Trump’s reputation or cares even less about the American people and what they want? They were just dupes who were fooled into voting for him. And you can say:

 

“Well, the 2016 Trump train.”

 

Which was a lot more based and had a lot more kind of like groundswell, Right-wing energy behind it. Well:

 

“They were tricked as well. Right?”

 

But if you fell for it again and voted for him this time, they really must despise you and just think you’re the most stupid person ever going! And it’s been proven right. I mean, Trump has now burned any credibility he’s had. This is an extremely unpopular war, but it doesn’t matter. His reputation isn’t on the line anymore, and it’s not a consideration for the people pulling his strings. They wanted this war done. Trump was their best shot of getting it done. And so they’ve got him to enact it.

 

And what we’re seeing is the fallout. And who knows where this ends? I’m sure we’re going to move on to that point. But the suffering of the American people, the suffering of European people is not any concern to these people! And you might argue that European suffering and American suffering is just a little bit of icing on their cake.

 

Yuro: This is something that they’ve wanted for decades and they’ve realised that as time’s gone on its getting less and less possible. So they’ve done it now because now is more likely than tomorrow as bad as it is and as badly as they’re doing and not winning what they want to be. If they’d waited longer, they would have had even less chance.

 

So it’s just like it’s do or die. It’s all out now because they’ve got no other choice.

 

Natty: Right. That’s what I totally agree with that.

 

And what I’m saying is the considerations that like a rational government that cared about its people would make, and there’s going to be an energy crisis, our people are going to die in this war. It’s hugely unpopular. This doesn’t benefit us in the slightest. None of that is like, none of that is in consideration. And it’s clear when you listen to people that they don’t quite understand that. And you listen to like the media class trying to justify this war and just grasping for anything.

 

Whereas like the reality, the truth, that this is purely for Israel and purely for the pedojew empire just doesn’t, it’s quite a hard pill to swallow.

 

Yuro: And as always, it’s going to affect Europe and it’s going to affect the UK so much worse than it’s going to affect America, because America has its own energy supplies.

 

Whereas, you know, Europe has been deliberately cut off from Russian energy supplies and made to not take fuel from Iran in the first place. And so Europeans are probably going to freeze this winter because of what the Americans have done or the jewish-American empire has done. Yeah.

 

Natty: Not content with cutting off via like a jewishpedo regime war with Russia. Not content with cutting off like the majority of European energy supplies. Now [chuckling] the pedojew empire now starts another war in the Gulf, which will just totally screw energy prices. And I like you guys know this, but I’m in the middle of, I’ve almost finished building my house and part of that was installing a heating system and we’ve got like a central heating system.

 

Yuro: Didn’t install a heat pump, did you?

 

Natty: We did not install a heat pump. We installed a central heating oil boiler which we needed to run up as like commissioning the system [chuckling] and like we went to fill it up the day after this started and the price of central heating oil was like 63 per litre. And the day after this thing started and Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it went up by like 33 P per litre and it’s now at like 1 pound 33 a litre. So I know this isn’t funny because this is going to affect everyone, but it’s like these are real effects and no the people who started this war just don’t care about this. You haven’t felt this at the pumps yet, but my God, like you are going to and the whole of Europe is going to, so.

 

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Yuro: And it will be White pensioners who freeze whilst illegal migrants can turn up the heating as much as they want in hotels and non-Whites all over will get preferential benefits and help to make sure that they’re looked after while our people suffer.

 

Natty: Yeah, I mean that’s a given at this point.

 

But yeah, we’re about to be hit with this thing. I mean, unless it wraps up quickly, which is not going to happen.

 

Yuro: Even if it did wrap up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks. I mean this is what always happens when there’s a, like the price of oil shoots up, petrol prices shoot up, the price, …

 

Natty: Two days for it to rise. 106. Yeah, six weeks for it to creep its way back down. Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: They’re very interesting points and obviously it sort of goes into what we said before about Venezuela. It puts everything into context.

 

Now one of the things that he’s really. We’re going to talk a bit about the fight back here and what Iran has done, its retaliatory strikes, but one of the most disappointing things is they talk about this Axis of Evil, but so far Russia have condemned this. I’m not sure what China have said, if anything at all, but there’s largely a wave of silence about this, isn’t there? There isn’t sort of the international, … So when Russia started their, in inverted commas. They’re not my words, but their words, “the Special Military Operation”, you know, there was this wave of condemnation from every European country about the invasion of Ukraine.

 

However, here, this so-called “Axis of Evil”, China, Russia, etc, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of pushback other than a couple of snappy press statements.

 

And I think this does tell you something about Russia and China’s ability or readiness to get involved. Now I would say China is more concerned with potentially taking Taiwan. And the knock on effects of this is, well, China will look and say:

 

“If America can take out the leadership of countries they don’t like, why can’t we do the same to Taiwan?”

 

And I think Russia is still tied up in Ukraine, which is probably by design. I think part of the issue with Ukraine was pulling Russia so deep into Ukraine that it depleted their resources in places like Syria. So regimes did fall in areas that America wanted them, America and Israel wanted them to fall.

 

But what do you think about the lack of sort of international pushback on this?

 

Yuro: It’s obvious that the Chinese and Russians are helping the Iranians in terms of intelligence gathering, satellite imagery. Supposedly the Iranian missiles use like an encrypted Chinese GPS as opposed to the American run satellites.

 

But yeah, they’re not coming out and publicly saying a lot and they could be doing a lot more kind of out in the open. And if they were really serious, the Chinese and Russians could help the Iranians develop an actual nuclear weapon to allow them to have a deterrent to defend themselves. And that could have happened, you know, within the last decade, but we don’t see them doing it.

 

Natty: Well, I made this point to mark the other day. This is where I kind of disagree with you a little bit. I think there’s only so much they can do. And Russia can’t just import a nuke into Tehran or into Iran without them asking for it. And if you’ve been paying attention, …

 

Yuro: Well, they should ask for it then!

 

Natty: Well that’s, maybe you’re right and they probably should and they probably will if they ever, if they get through this thing in one piece. But Russia has to be asked to provide that nuke. And the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini has famously had a fatwa on acquiring nuclear weapons. Which, you know, looking back to how we opened this thing puts lie to the fact that:

 

“Iran is two weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is five weeks away from having a nuke!”

 

For the last 30 years, every couple of weeks. So for one, Iran has to ask these countries for things. And I’m fairly certain that Russia is providing military assistance. You know, maybe not flashy supersonic missiles and all the rest of it, but you know it’s a short hop across the Caspian Sea for Russia to send boats and send equipment down to Tehran as much as it can. Like you said, Mark, they’re tied up in Ukraine as per the pedojew regime’s plan.

 

And like you said, Yuro. They’re using encrypted Chinese satellite data for their missiles. And I’m sure, like satellite imagery of the surrounding Gulf states and areas that Iranian like ballistic missiles and drones are hitting is provided by the Chinese.

 

So I think Russia and China understand the stakes here and understand that if Iran falls or we’re kind of at a turning point in history of the future of the Pedojew regime empire and where it stands and if it manages to pull this off and destroy Iran, then who knows what’s next? And we, I guess, we can talk about that. But for Russia and China, they probably think that actually halting the Pedojew regime here is probably a good thing to do.

 

And as much as much as they can do under the table, they’re going to do. And if it gets any hotter than that, well, who knows? But I disagree with you that they’re not helping as much as they could be.

 

Yuro: I don’t expect them to hand over a dozen nuclear weapons and say:

 

“Here you go!”

 

But why is Iran using such an antiquated air force instead of more modern Russian fighter planes, for example? Like, things like that would not be outside of the realm of possibility.

 

[1:12:38]

 

Natty: Well, because that’s not where the Iranian like, national defense has been focused. America, whatever you like to say about it, dominates the air and it always has. It has the most advanced and the most aeroplanes that it can put in the sky. You know, carrier groups all over the place, air bases all over the place. And Iran has had a long time to prepare for this. They’ve watched what’s happened around them and has decided actually our best national defense is in this missile capability and drone capability. And if Russia sent a squadron of like Su-22s or whatever the latest MIGs are, they would probably be shot down in fairly short order, which would be waste of resources.

 

So I think this idea, like I said, I think this idea that they’re not helping as much as they can is misplaced.

 

And interestingly enough, Arab Natsoc in the chat has just said Iran has a hyper fixation on self sufficiency. And he says it’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.

 

And I think that’s probably correct. Like I said it’s not up to China and Russia just to unload the docks in some port somewhere. Just tons and tons of military hardware that Iran never asked for. You know, they’ve got to agree these things and they’ve got to ask for it and they’ve got to trade for it and give things away and they probably feel they don’t need to. And judging by what’s happening so far, maybe they’re right. They didn’t need it. Maybe whatever they’ve asked for, they’re utilising and anything they haven’t asked for, they don’t really need.

 

Yuro: [with a Russian accent]

 

“I’m sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to leave that pallet of nuclear weapons. You can do what you like with them.”

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, [chuckling] I did say this in all fairness, mate, I think I did say to you it would probably, to do something like this or to create a deal of that sort you would probably actually need for the Iranian regime to fundamentally turn around and say:

 

“Look, you’re gonna have half of our country, you’re gonna have X amount of our oil production. You’re going to be able to put your own bases on our soil. You’re going to have this power over us.”

 

And then Russia or China might say:

 

“Well, this is actually worth it. Then we will put bases on your soil. This is absolutely worth it! We’re going for it. Thanks. Thanks a bunch, guys. You know, this works.”

 

But the Iranians might not actually want that they might not actually want Russia and China to have that much control over Iranian politics.

 

Natty: Yeah, that’s absolutely right!

 

And if you think about it, that would turn Iran into a, like a, not exactly a vassal state, but as a, like an arm of Russia or an arm of China.

 

Whereas if they come out of this unscathed, they emerge as the regional power in the Middle East, which has much bigger implications for them and then makes them bigger on the world stage than just being an outpost of Russia or China.

 

Yuro: But they could trade on more equal terms with the North Koreans. And the North Koreans have come out and said:

 

“If they ask for a nuke, they’ll get one.”

 

Natty: Well maybe they will. I suspect the Iranian government is going to be much more looking at that idea much more favourably after this.

 

Mark Collett: Well, that is an interesting point.

 

And ultimately I’ve said this on many streams, but we are in a situation where that is the only way that you can keep America off your back. That’s the only reason North Korea didn’t fall. It’s the only reason Russia probably hasn’t been invaded or struck by the Americans. I think if Russia didn’t have nukes, undoubtedly America would have attacked them.

 

But despite them not having nukes, I will say this. I think the Iranians retaliatory strikes have been extremely impressive! But amongst those retaliatory strikes, it is noted that, because when this all started, I was thinking:

 

“Why are they bombing refineries? Why are they attacking refineries in other Arab nations? Surely that’s going to annoy potential allies. Why would they do such a thing? You know, we don’t do that, guys, because if you do, you’re going to end up being a pariah state and you know, your next door neighbours aren’t going to want to essentially work with you.”

 

And then the other day it comes out that effectively what you’re seeing here is not Iran striking these oil refineries, but the strikes on the oil refineries have been carried out by Israel!

 

So what do you think to Iran’s actual retaliation and what do you think of Israel’s rather underhanded attacks? Because, and this isn’t just theory crafting. We’ve actually seen over the last, 24 hours scores of Mossad agents being arrested around the Middle East for being involved in false flag operations in numerous Middle Eastern nations.

 

And of course, this is something that we all know happens. This is something that we all are completely aware of you know, we know that Israel is regularly involved in sort of false flag events. This is something that has happened many, many times in the past.

 

And I think it’s interesting that this is being exposed. So we’ve had the USS Liberty, [we’ve had 9/11] we’ve had bombings in the Middle East. We’ve had potential or we’ve had sort of “terror attacks” in inverted commas in numerous countries which have turned out to be the work of Israeli agents. And we’re seeing that again now.

 

So I think Iran has performed far more ably than people might have thought. Sadly, they don’t seem to be winning this. Their navy seems to be taking major hits.

 

But some of these retaliatory strikes are looking questionable, are actually the work of Israel.

 

[1:19:06]

 

 

Yuro: Well, supposedly, I mean, who’s to say that the attack on our base in Cyprus was actually carried out by Iran? Because didn’t Keir Starmer say:

 

“Oh, we won’t actually engage in hostile actions, we’ll only defend Israel with our planes!”

 

Which is, of course, kind of a schizophrenic point of view in the first place. But then all of a sudden:

 

“Oh, look, our base in Cyprus is attacked and now we can kind of get in fully without restriction.”

 

Natty: So that’s a good point. I mean, we can talk about RAF Akrotiri, but if you look at where Cyprus is on a map, any Iranian weapons, munitions, whether it’s drones or missiles or whatever, have to fly over, like directly over Israel. So there’s speculation it was like Hezbollah or possibly someone else or even maybe a, like an Israeli false flag, which is certainly possible. And who can say?

 

But it does seem like the refineries in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are Mossad operations to blow them up. With the point being to try and engage those countries on behalf of Israel to come into the war on behalf of Israel and do what they can or do more for Israel.

 

But coming back to your point, Mark, about the strikes that Iran have carried out, it’s not clear to me that they’re losing. I mean, you say it seems they’re losing. I’m not sure that’s totally true. And we spoke about this before I think a few months back on the Nationalist A-Team, where I think they’re doing much more, they’re doing a much more capable job than anyone except expected them to in the sensibility and where they’re striking.

 

So they’re hitting US bases in these Gulf oil states, you know, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And they’re forcing the Americans to retreat, which stretches their logistic lines. And like we said earlier, they may have fomented an uprising in Bahrain and they’re making these Arab states which have been paid off or controlled by Israel in some way unstable and shaky. And the Israeli installed governments and monarchs and regimes in these countries are looking incredibly shaky or shaky as you’ve just put in the chat, that you’re on shaky ground. And hitting Dubai, well, that’s just popular with everyone in the entire world. So what do you say about that?

 

Yuro: It’s kind of, it’s almost like their own kind of Samson Option, except inherently justified and not evil because they’re only going after the American bases and the people supporting the Americans and the Israelis.

 

But you know, they’ve said:

 

“If we’re attacked from here. We’re going to take this, and just kind of everything in the region, every American base.”

 

And it’s entirely justified because these countries can’t claim to be not involved:

 

“Oh yes, we’re not involved in this. We just have a base where your enemy is launching attacks on you, but we’re not involved!”

 

And then the moment Iran says:

 

“Okay, well we’re not going to attack you, we’re not going to attack your people, but we’ll take out that base.”

 

And then say Saudi Arabia:

 

“So we’re under attack, we’re being attacked.”

 

Well, no!

 

Natty: That’s American soil. That’s American soil there buddy! A totally legitimate target by anyone’s standards.

 

Yuro: I mean, it seems like Iran is taking a kind of “tank and turtle” strategy. You know, it’s like when you play a, like a strategy game and you can put a lot into units or you can just build up your base and wait for them to come to you. And it can be risky because there’s a possibility that you get overwhelmed.

 

But if you’re turtle enough you can withstand that storm and then you can turn around.

 

Mark Collett: Is Yuro the tank or the turtle? That’s the question. [chuckling]

 

Natty: Depends what he’s had to eat. [chuckling]

 

Yuro: Turtling and tanking, kind of the same thing.

 

Natty: But I think like Iran by its like geography is kind of is able to naturally turtle and the fact is that there’s so many assets that America have placed around it and like the jewpedo regime have around it. And the fact that Israel is within striking distance means it can strike effectively. And America is very powerful and has a very powerful military, but that military still has logistical concerns and still has aircraft carriers that are clogged [chuckling] with like fat Mexican sailors poo!

 

Yuro: American aircraft carriers are as full of shit as Donald Trump!

 

Natty: Well, [chuckling] yeah, agreed.

 

Mark Collett: Well that’s the thing. Look, I mean, we haven’t seen an aircraft carrier at the bottom of the Persian Gulf yet, have we? Now you might be saying:

 

“Oh well, Mark, that’s a big ask.”

 

Because Obviously, if that happened, we would actually probably see the beginning of World War III! Because at that point, I think Trump would have to put boots on the ground. It actually might be the end of him. You know, it’d be one of the other, wouldn’t it? He’d either have to put boots on the ground or it’d be the end of him. But we are yet to see an aircraft carrier effectively being scrapped.

 

Now, that doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything in retaliation, but they’re not hitting the big targets. And look, we’ve had American commentators, some of these American commentators that do these sort of big takes on these things. You hear them talking about this Axis of Resistance and saying:

 

“Oh the time will come when these hypersonic missiles are going to be putting aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Persian Gulf!”

 

We yet to see that, are we? I mean, we’re also yet to see any of these sort of hypersonic super weapons take out leading members of the Israeli government or the Israeli regime. You know, I know Yuro doesn’t like the word “regime”, which we keep using, but that is an interesting point. We haven’t seen Israel struck. Israel has been proved to be not invincible, I think it’s fair to say that. But we haven’t seen the Israeli government reeling in the same way that the Iranian government has.

 

[1:25:49]

 

Yuro: Well, there’s a couple of points to make here. First off, with regards to the aircraft carriers, the American Navy has been keeping the aircraft carriers at a much greater range than they would normally use them to attack somebody because they are scared of those missiles. And the Iranians have launched small salvos of kind of like four missiles at time at them and got them to basically back off and back off to a greater distance, which means they can do much fewer kind of bombing runs at once and they have more fuel requirements and greater maintenance on the planes. So it is diminishing America’s capability to attack.

 

There was also satellite footage, I think, from a Chinese satellite that showed a fire on one of the destroyers in one of the aircraft carriers escorts. So potentially that was hit by Iranian missiles and although not sunk, caught fire. So they’re keeping them at bay. The Americans know if they get any closer, they will be hit.

 

And with regards to the missiles that they’re firing, it seems like they’ve used a lot of their kind of crappier munitions and their older munitions, like everything they’ve been launching at the other Gulf states is short range ballistic missiles that don’t have the range to go anywhere else. So they might as well use them on these targets. And they’ve been using up these older, less advanced munitions and drones and still still getting so many interceptors wasted before they actually bring out the big guns. And we’ve seen within the past day or two they’re starting to launch these missiles. I can’t remember the name of them, but they’re like a very large cluster munition that drops about 60 different submunitions on the way down and they’re dropping those on Israel.

 

And as I said in the very beginning, we just don’t know how much is actually getting through and how much damage they’re actually doing because it’s censored and covered up.

 

Natty: Yeah, we did touch on this and like you said, like an interceptor system, like a THAAD or like a Patriot battery or whatever, costs like in the millions, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’re being used up [chuckling] like drones with lawnmower engines and like a few kilogram warheads. And Iran’s just like churning these things out, like churning them out and churning them out and they’re still intact and they’re at some point America is going to run out of interceptors.

 

And I don’t know if you saw this, but the pedojew regime in America like called its defense manufacturers, heads of its defense manufacturing industry in for like an emergency meeting to say:

 

“We need more missiles! We need more stuff like come on, make it happen!”

 

But I was listening to something earlier saying this is very well demanding that, but there’s a lot of a very expensive gear that goes into this stuff, like certain gases and certain rare earth elements and guidance systems and radio radar systems and optics and all the rest of it that has to go into this missile production.

 

Meanwhile, you know, Iran can get like a cheap [chuckling] Chinese lawnmower engine, stick it in a, like a fiberglass Shahed drone shell, put a bit of explosive on the tip of it and just launch it wherever it runs, you know, within a few hundred mile radius, which is enough to cover the Gulf states and Strait of Hormuz and all this oil production that Europe relies on and lots of other people rely on and it’s going to destabilise all these countries that surround it.

 

Yuro: There’s a psychological aspect of them just doing the drip, drip, drip, dropping wave after wave of missiles on the Israelis, that’s definitely going to be wearing the Israelis down.

 

And also let’s say they absolutely opened up and dropped every missile that they had on Tel Aviv and the surrounding areas. Well in that situation the Israelis would come out and enact the Samson Option, wouldn’t they? And just you know, destroy them with their own nuclear weapons so that obviously they’re not going to feel like they can just drop everything on them at once because they don’t want to force them into that corner where they say:

 

“All right, well we’re doomed anyway!”

 

Natty: Well the other thing to remember is for Iran, the people in Iran and the government in Iran understands this is like a fight for survival. Like I said earlier, if they lose now, if they fail in this defense of their nation, they turn into a failed state. Israel has free reign and MI6 and the CIA have free reign to just fund all sorts of horrible like disgusting groups like ISIS and like the Kurds and everyone else to come and storm their country and make it into a living hellhole, just like they’ve done with Syria and Iraq and Libya.

 

So they understand this is a fight for their survival. So they’ve got to bend their entire will to doing this. Israel and America can stop anytime and can be forced to their knees if their civilian populations demand it. You know dropping cluster munitions on Tel Aviv is like a terror tactic. Well I mean “terror” in like air quotes, right? But at some point the Israeli people, the jews in Israel were going to have had enough of air raid sirens and cluster munitions raining on their heads and could be going to demand that it ends one way or another.

 

And this is what happened in the 12 Day War. I mean if you listen to shills and like pedojew media you would think that Iran lost a 12 day war, but it was Israel who cried off, who’d taken enough punishment from everything I can see. And it’s only a matter of time. I mean if Iran can sustain what it’s doing the Iron Dome is not stopping a giant like cluster warhead that like you said drops 60 submunitions on the city in a suburb somewhere, they’re going to cry uncle and they’re going to bend the knee to Iran.

 

[1:32:14]

 

Meanwhile Iran can’t stop and it simply can’t otherwise it fails. And I’m sure almost everyone in the country understands that.

 

Yuro: This is like a boxing match where the other side controls the bell. You know, you’ve got Mike Tyson there and he’s got the bell. He chooses when the match ends. You don’t want to give it everything you’ve got and gas out too early because it might go on another five minutes.

 

So they are happy to let this draw out. And everything that the Americans and the Israelis has done has all been about, let’s go in there with the alpha strike, let’s drop as much on them as we can, let’s take out this, let’s take out that, and then we’ll just walk away and say:

 

“Mission successful, we can walk away now.”

 

And the Iranians are like:

 

“No, we’re not surrendering! We’re going to keep on fighting!”

 

Because as time continues it gets more and more in their favour. What they don’t want to do is say:

 

“Right let’s have a ceasefire!”

 

And three months, six months down the line, it starts all over again. They’re better off just continuing it now.

 

Natty: Yeah, I agree with that.

 

I mean, this is, like I said, this is a long, long time in the making. This is a long term plan of Israel’s to destroy and destabilise Iran. So if there’s ever, if there’s a ceasefire, if this stops, it’s going to be back on again at some point. And in the same way that a Gaza ceasefire isn’t really a ceasefire and at some point Israel is going to move on Gaza again and try and wipe those people out. So I think the Iranians understand that. Well, hopefully they understand that.

 

So we’ll see what happens.

 

Mark Collett: Well, it is interesting because they haven’t begged, have they haven’t begged and they haven’t cucked! I think they know there is no negotiations. That’s one of the big problems earlier that we talked about though. You know, when you make it so negotiation is meaningless, you essentially do put people with their backs to the wall. You know, if you’ve got a guy, you know, stood in his house with a pistol and the police are like:

 

“Look, let’s negotiate.”

 

But you know that when the police come through that door, they’re going to shoot you no matter what. At that point, what are you going to do? Is it going to be fight to the death, blaze of glory time, or is it going to be:

 

“Well, I’ll spend 12 hours negotiating only to be shot in the head anyway.”

 

At that point, you are creating an interesting sort of situation where fundamentally the American word is good for nothing! And the only answer is to fight to the death. And look, you know, without going into World War II, many, many Germans surrendered in good faith, believing that they were going to be treated like human beings, that they were going to be treated honourably, that surrendering to the Americans would be the right thing, that they would go home, that they would be treated as prisoners of war. And then they were brutalised and starved to death. I mean, surrendering to America is often, …

 

Natty: Or sent to Russia as slaves.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Natty: Even starved on the banks of the Rhine or sent to Russia as slaves. Yeah, you shouldn’t imagine that you’re going to be treated fairly if you surrender to these people. They’ve shown, as we discussed earlier, they’ve shown that they’ve got no honour. They’ve shown that they’re dishonourable people and they don’t treat civilians well. Those are the lessons that should be taken from this.

 

Yuro: They protest for their right to rape captives. When their own people have been caught on video, you know, sodomizing prisoners like Gazans that they’ve captured, they protest. And they don’t say it didn’t happen

 

Natty: Out in the street.

 

Yuro: Yeah, they said they turn out in the street to protest and say:

 

“We should be allowed to sodomize them!”

 

Is there any other country in the world where you would get that?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I think one of the interesting things about Trump, and this is sort of just one of my sort of notes on this, is that Trump came in as this “art of the deal”, wanting to put world peace on the table, get America out of the foreign wars that have dogged it for some time. And essentially what we’ve actually seen is quite the opposite. Trump actually does seem to be. And this isn’t meant to be a compliment, by the way, but it probably comes off as a little bit of a compliment. But he does seem to be sort of the ultimate ZOG warlord, doesn’t he? Trump as a guy, as a mad sort of emperor stood, you know, addressing his troops does seem to be a role that he slips into far more easily and readily than the role of peacemaker.

 

Now, I’ve seen him in these interviews. I’ve seen him talking about future operations. I’ve seen the way he really does love having this power and being able to tell other nations to bow to him or else. And that’s what he’s saying, really, with Iran:

 

“You’ll do what I say or I’m going to completely raze you to the ground!”

 

Now saying that, do you think there has ever been a more philo-semitic president? And following this, do you think this will change the way Americans vote in the future?

 

[1:37:45]

 

 

Natty: I doubt it. And there may have been more philo-semitic presidents, but certainly not in our time, or I mean, our time is in a time when I’ve been a, like an adult. I think I was 12 at the time when the first Gulf War started, when Bush rolled into Iraq and dragged Blair in and dragged the rest of the British people in. But it’s hard to imagine a more philo-semitic president.

 

And I think part of the problem is. Well, maybe it’s not a problem for them, although it might turn out to be, who knows, depending on how this thing goes, is that more and more people were just nakedly seeing it as that it’s like, why, what possible reason could the American people, like the people in America have for engaging in this terminal war with Iran? What possible cause do the British people have against the people of Iran? You know, flimsy excuses like:

 

“Oh, they’re a terrorist nation and you know, they might at some point have a nuke!”

 

This just doesn’t cut it. This isn’t a reason that sensible people would launch wars against people and go on these destructive campaigns against people.

 

Yuro: Sunni Pakistanis rape children. So we need to fight against them

 

Natty: Yeah:

 

“We need to fight a Shia country, a Persian Shia country!”

 

Yeah, absolute lunacy! But people, I think people genuinely understand more now. But this is just jews! This is a war for jews. It’s a war for Israel. And Trump is like deeply, deeply friends with the jewish paedophile who was the mover and shaker for the evil jewish paedophile regime. This is their guy. You know, he is their guy and he’s the guy who’s going to see this done. Not for you, not for your family, not for the American infrastructure, not for the home country and what it means for the future of America, but for Israel and for his jewish handlers. And people, I think, understand that. More and more people understand that, which is why this war is so unpopular.

 

Yuro: We see more and more people waking up to jewish power every day. And in America, I mean, you see mainstream Leftists like Ana Kasparian from the young Turks goes out and just says:

 

“The goyim are waking up! Deal with it!”

 

And that’s amazing to see and it’s a great thing! But at the end of the day there’s no one for them to vote for. The two party system in America is so entrenched, they’re not going to have that option anytime soon to actually get out of it. I mean you’re just going to have a continuation of the same thing where you have presidents get elected and have lower and lower approval ratings, but the people just won’t believe it.

 

Natty: And that’s like you said, no other choice. And I’ll remind, you know, Mark was saying that President Trump ran on like a “no foreign intervention, no foreign wars” ticket. Certainly in 2016 he did. But every president has done that and most of the prime ministers and most of the regimes in this country have run on the same kind of, “we’re not for foreign wars”!

 

And yet every time there’s a foreign war on behalf of Israel and the jews, these people snap to. And all of a sudden it’s:

 

“Well, this war is justified. And this is a terrorist regime and Syria used Sarin gas on its people and Iran is a terrorist state and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction!”

 

So these people know that foreign wars aren’t popular and you know, foreign wars within justifications, but foreign wars where there is literally no justification apart from the jews want us to do this, are extremely unpopular! And burn through the veil that these people use to hide what they do and kind of hide the levers they pull in order to get what they want.

 

Mark Collett: That’s very interesting. And I do concur. I don’t think there is anyone else to vote for. But I’m not really here to correct anyone tonight. I think everyone’s made excellent points, but you are actually wrong that it was just, 2016. There are pictures floating around that I’ve actually shared showing with Trump and Vance stood together and it’s the kind of text around them is “the peace ticket”, you know, saying:

 

“You’re voting first, you’re voting for peace!”

 

This is what they ran on this time as well. And Trump did make these huge sort of overtures to the Nobel Committee, that he wanted the Nobel Prize Peace Prize, that he was going to stop these wars, which obviously he hasn’t done.

 

Natty: I think I’m probably guilty of paying less attention to the Trump campaign in 2022, [chuckling] when it was in 2016. But, yeah, I can well believe it. And I’ve heard, I’ve seen that in headlines, quoted for the peace ticket. And Trump lambasting Obama on Twitter at the time, saying:

 

“Oh, Obama’s going to start a war in Iran because he’s such a terrible negotiator and he sucks at being a peaceful president.”

 

And it’s like, yeah so many years later, you’re the guy. You’re the guy these people have activated to get this done.

 

[1:43:07]

 

Mark Collett: Well, indeed. And the next point, because we’re sort of getting towards what do we think’s going to happen?

 

But before we do that, I think one of the interesting things about this is we’ve seen, so there are a lot of, what can I call them, “Shitbag influencers” like Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil. I despise Andrew Neil! Fat, worthless toad! The day he has sort of a gigantic Coronary as he sat eating his sort of duck pate on his terrace in the south of France will be a good day for the world! That guy is always on the wrong side of everything. He wants to attack Iran, wanted all the Covid restrictions. I can’t remember him ever saying anything good. He is scum of the earth!

 

But on the other side, we have seen this in interesting bipartisan pushback. We’ve seen Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Ana Kasparian. There has been this mass awakening to Israel! I mean, Tucker Carlson stood in front of Turning Point USA getting a standing ovation for saying:

 

“Israel needs to get out of American politics!”

 

That is seismic. You know, he is still the biggest American political voice in terms of being an influencer. I think this is incredible!

 

Now, I was somebody that was quite happy for Trump to get in for a couple of reasons, but one of the reasons being that I believed that this would bring things to a head. I believe that the Trump regime would be the regime that accelerated things to a point where numerous people who had previously been extremely philo-semitic would end up coming out, breaking ranks, and there would be a mainstream acceptance of our points. I remember saying that, actually I was briefly invited on WarStrike, of all streams, the night of the election.

 

And I was like:

 

“Look, this isn’t a bad thing! Don’t have a cow over this basically. This is something that may well bring us certain benefits.”

 

And I think that we are sort of seeing this to a large degree now. What do you guys think about this? Because I can’t really remember the last time we’ve actually seen a such a bipartisan move against Israel. And it’s not just the ones I’ve mentioned. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been incredible! Tucker Carlson’s leading the charge with young Right-wing males and females. Turning Point USA, which used to be absolutely ZOGged, is now a hive of like counter-semitism, if you like.

 

And on top of all of that, having the absolutely delightful and wife ready material known as Ana Kasparian.

 

Yuro: She’s absolutely perfect! [chuckling] Coming out for me!

 

Mark Collett: What? What did you say Yuro?

 

Natty: What did you say?

 

Yuro: It’s a bit brown for me.

 

Natty: Get out! Booted from this stream!

 

Mark Collett: You know what? Do you know what? Yuro’s got this thing, right, where you show any girl who’s got the mildest amount of than, and he goes into some kind of like tail spin as if like White women have never ever set foot out of the house!

 

Yuro: Are Armenians White?

 

Natty: This one is. This one certainly is!

 

Yuro: If she’s anti-semitic, she’s White! Okay.

 

Mark Collett: The question is, Yuro, are you White? [chuckling] Because the fact you’ve asked this of our lady in chief, …

 

Natty: Perfect Queen.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, a perfect Queen means maybe you’re, …

 

Yuro: I’m not as big as simp as you are mate!

 

Mark Collett: Mate, there’s nothing simpy about loving Ana!

 

Natty: It’s [chuckling] a justified simpery.

 

Mark Collett: It’s justified simpery. Yeah. And so why I like Ana as well is when she gets angry, she just doesn’t hold back, does she? She’s one of those people, sometimes watching somebody get really angry, …

 

Natty: There was a clip, there was a clip of her on Piers Morgan and she was like yelling at these like jews. There were like six of them on the panel and I think they were all jews apart from her and Piers Morgan. And she’s like yelling and screaming at them because they’re trying to dissemble and you know, do what “aboutery” about the killing in Gaza and the killing kids in Iran and stuff. And she’s really letting them have it! And she’s screaming at them. There was some like Boomer in the Facebook comments, like:

 

“Oh, I tried to watch it but I couldn’t take the screeching!”

 

I just, I put underneath it, I was like:

 

“I would listen to her scream about jews in my ear all night!”

 

Mark Collett: Look, [chuckling] that is how I feel that like she has come out and when she does it? She does it! So if you’re screaming like some mad, sort of disheveled, for want of a better term, “Karen” and so you’re sort of mad because there was only, …

 

Yuro: Karen is a slur.

 

Mark Collett: Well, it is, but Karen can also, you know what I mean? You get some women who’ll go crackers over like the fact there’s only seven olives in there, you know, olive pasta. And the menu shows eight or something and they throw an absolute fit over it! But the way she blows up, it’s so attractive. She’s like:

 

“Don’t give me this! You disgusting Zionist pig! You make me sick!”

 

And she’s enunciating every one of her words and she’s not holding back either. She’s like:

 

“You child killing monsters!”

 

Natty: It’s like righteous fury at the people she’s like, that’s been put up on these panel shows.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. Exactly! And when you’re watching it’s extremely attractive! It’s not sort of like I said, I know “Karen” is a bit of an anti-White slur, but it’s not Karen-esque. It’s not like an overly liberal White woman and who’s outraged because of something minor that normal people are like:

 

“Look, just pull yourself together.”

 

The way she does it, I find it to be absolutely cracking! I love it!

 

Anyway, that’s enough glazing of Ana Kasparian. I mean, look, can there ever be enough glazing about the Kasparian? That could be a two hour stream in itself!

 

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Natty: It’s for Yuro, apparently. I mean, Yuro’s not on the Kasparian train here, unfortunately. Maybe we’ll have to have a word with [word unclear] after the stream.

 

Mark Collett: We have to, … You mean a beating? [chuckling]

 

Natty: You’re going to a re-education camp.

 

Mark Collett: After the show in the green room, we give him a kicking!

 

So what do you think of this bipartisan movement, though? I find it refreshing. I like it. And it’s got real gravitas. Because, look, I was on the David Duke show earlier and obviously I work with David probably more than anybody else in the world, for better or worse. And I love David! He’s a real character. He can be a bit difficult at times, but he’s a real character. But sadly, David does not have the influence he once had.

 

And I’m not saying that to sort of mock David or deride David. I’m just saying that as a statement of fact. But somebody like Ana Kasparian does have that power! She does have that gravitas, but so does Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, Tucker Carlson. Absolutely massive! And you’re watching these people tear in to the Zionist cause and attack these Warhawk jews. It is very refreshing! I mean, well, for me, it is anyway. I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I love it!

 

I mean, how does this make you feel after all the years of being in the wilderness? Look, being in the wilderness is something that. I am still very much in the wilderness, despite all my hard work over the years, despite my incredible consistency. Like, if I’m not the perfect guy, okay, not by a long, long means, I am very good at debates, but I’m not the perfect guy. I have my foibles. I screw up, …

 

Yuro: Not good at controlling your temper.

 

Mark Collett: I was gonna joke there by exploding at you!

 

Natty: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: I’m not brilliant at controlling my temper, but one thing you’ve got to say for me is that throughout all these years, I have been extremely consistent in what I’ve stood for.

 

Now, when it comes down to it, seeing these people, for me, anyway, come out and be sort of so, you know, completely anti-Israel. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen it. And it’s not just relying on, as I said, this isn’t to knock David, but it’s not just to rely on me and David Duke making the point anymore. You know, these points are being made by these more mainstream individuals who’ve got serious gravitas. And I actually like that. I think it’s something that I think is really important. Seeing Ana Kasparian and seeing all these others doing it. I think this has taken our message to a new crowd. And it’s interesting to see that there are people all over the political system who have had enough of Israel.

 

Natty: Yeah. And I think having this kind of, it’s not perfect. The things they say aren’t perfect. Right. And the problem isn’t just Israel. And I think most people get that. And this isn’t to kind of pee on your cornflakes, Mark. But even the things they’re saying do give amount of headroom for anyone who’s less sizable and less influential from them to kind of push those boundaries a little bit more. And there is further to push.

 

I mean, we shouldn’t be coming around the campfire at this stage to stretch your wilderness analogy. We should be trying to, we should still be in the wilderness telling the truth and putting the final truth to it. Because, like I said the things are saying are anti-Israel, which is like 90% of the way there, right?

 

And like I said, giving headroom for more, not extreme, that’s not the word, but for a greater and more deep understanding to come forth.

 

And I think that you are going to see from this war with Iran, you’re going to see a tranche of politicians and people emerge who are willing to say these things. And sure, amongst those people there are going to be shills and they’re going to be subversive people, but at some point it just becomes like a political football whether you support Israel and whether you’re going to do their bidding.

 

I mean, one of the disappointing things with Rupert Lowe is he hasn’t really come out against, he hasn’t made a statement against Israel, which I’m sure none of us really expect, but now would be the perfect time for someone in his position to make that leap. We haven’t seen it yet, but I think this just pushes that football a little bit further down the road. You know, pushes the can a little bit further down the road to give space for that to happen.

 

Yuro: I think every day that the Rupert Lowe goes out and doesn’t support Israel, even if he won’t explicitly say that he’s against them, obviously that’s giving us room and whatnot.

 

But another thing, sort of talking about, obviously, the goyim waking up and Trump, I think it is great that we see all these people realizing the extent of jewish power.

 

And I think Trump especially is to thank for it, because he is just so openly philo-semitic in a way that no previous president, even if they love jews as much as he does, they just wouldn’t do it so openly! You know, he goes out there and declares himself the King of Israel and he says this, that and the other. And it’s again, with the attack on Iran and the thing with Venezuela, there’s not even a pretence anymore. It’s just:

 

“We’re doing this because it’s in our interest and we’re attacking Iran because that’s what we want to do!”

 

They’re not having the pretence anymore.

 

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Mark Collett: I don’t like to cut across people because we’ve all been pretty good at not cutting across people. But I just wanted to further your point. You know, when Trump does things which are so sort of egregious [chuckling] that you sort of wonder why he’s saying them. Like when he said:

 

“Oh the Adelsons basically bought me the White House! So whenever they want to just walk in and ask for a policy to be passed, what am I gonna do? It’s the bloody Adelsons! They gave me about half a billion. How are you gonna say no to the people who gave you half a billion? Come on, guys, let’s get things going!”

 

You’re thinking to yourself:

 

“Are you actually saying this? Are you actually saying to people, ‘look, the Adelsons bought me the White House. So then when they want a policy passing, I just bring them in and say, ‘What do you want?’ And when they say, ‘I want this.’ I just give it to them’.”

 

Most people would know which bits not to say out loud. You know, it’s like when you were a kid, your mom was like:

 

“Did you clean up the house?”

 

You’d be like:

 

“Yeah, I did!”

 

But you wouldn’t be:

 

“Well, actually, I spilt the water from the big vase, partially flooded the living room, spent ages dabbing it up, and have hid the stain under the mat!”

 

Because there’s part of it that you don’t say out loud, isn’t there? And there’s part that you say out loud. But Trump, he says it all out loud, and it becomes sort of so almost jarring to hear him say it, because for years, we’ve heard that politicians are bought, they’re sold. You know, powerful foreign forces pay for politicians to do their bidding. And here’s Trump just honestly saying:

 

“Well, that’s exactly what happens! I do it all the time! The Adelsons basically funded me, and I did everything for them. So when they want a policy, I give them!”

 

You don’t say that out loud, do you? You say:

 

“The Adelsons are an important part of what we’re hoping to do, and no one has undue influence over me, but I’m happy to hear from them.”

 

He doesn’t do any of that. There’s no beating around the bush. He basically says:

 

“Jew’s got me in. And when they want a policy passing, I give it to them!”

 

I mean, is that refreshing to hear? For me, it is, because it confirms everything that we’ve always said.

 

Natty: Yeah, he is known for slurping up the “juju come”. As someone put in the chat earlier.

 

I think the worrying thing is, or I guess it’s not worrying. I mean, it’s interesting. So there was like just this ground swell of JQ awareness, like Israel hatred after October 7th because of what Israel was doing to Gaza.

 

And then the media gets to declare:

 

“There’s a ceasefire, Gaza’s over. We can look away now. We can look away from the fact that Israel has been bombing hospitals and stuff.”

 

Because of the nature of the news cycle and everything else, people let it drop. And then this big orange slave, jew slave, Trump, comes along and starts a war with Iran, like, totally on behalf of his jewish handlers in Israel. And all of a sudden it’s like:

 

“Oh, right, my awareness is shaking again.”

 

Like:

 

“Now there’s just another thing that’s like, cannot be ignored where we have to bring out this question again to the public and try and explain why this war for Israel isn’t anything to do with jews and is secretly about Russia.”

 

Or whatever else it is. You know, so, yeah, I mean, awareness, awareness rising!

 

Mark Collett: So we pretty much wrapped up a lot of the things we were going to talk about. And we’ve already said that Israel has been proven through this not to be invincible.

 

And I think that’s one of the key things here. At one point, Israel touted the Iron Dome. It touted their invincibility. I think this has shown something that’s very interesting. It’s highlighted that America is Israel’s lapdog! But it’s also highlighted that without America, Israel couldn’t exist. And that’s important, I think, for two reasons.

 

There’s this symbolic idea of Israel being this invincible outpost in the Middle East that the Iron Dome protects and they can stand alone if necessary. I think Israel have been really undermined here, not just from a moral perspective, but from the view that they can be hurt, which is important. You know, one of the big things, if you’re ever in some kind of conflict, facing what appears to be an immovable or unstoppable enemy, to show that that enemy is, in fact, fallible and can be hurt is very important.

 

And although we’ve hardly seen Israel sink into the Mediterranean, I do think the strikes on Israel have been significant from the point of view that it has shown them to be scared, that if they don’t have the West on their side, they can’t defend themselves.

 

Yuro: Well, it’s like with October 7th. When October 7th happened, it showed the world that they’re not all powerful, they’re not all knowing, they’re not always just gonna win because they’ve got everything on lockdown. Their power does have limits. And there’s some amount of White nationalists who come out and say:

 

“Oh, no, they let that happen1 You know, they let that happen on purpose! That they have a reason to do this.”

 

But actually, it’s like you’re unwilling to believe that they just screwed up that badly.

 

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[Remainder of Transcript in Progress]

 

 

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Mark Collett: Look, I’m not going to get into a big debate, but I actually believe they let that happen. I believe that that was part of their plan and gave them this imperative to do what they did in Gaza.

 

However, I think Iran’s a different kettle of fish. I think that what we’re seeing with Iran here is something fundamentally much more damaging for them, because they have nothing to gain by letting Iran smash through the Iron Dome. They have nothing that they can say:

 

“Well, this gives us the moral imperative to do X.”

 

Because in the case of Iran, they’ve already done X, haven’t they? X has already been committed to, it’s already been carried out.

 

So I think there’s different things here.

 

But look, let’s wrap this up and we’re going to wrap this up before we do the questions and answers. If anyone wants to Superchat. If you’ve enjoyed the stream, please consider sending a Superchat. But we’re going to wrap this up with, obviously we’ve said this is for the Greater Israel Project and we’ve talked about the political ramifications around the world for America, for Russia, for China, for future conflicts.

 

But one thing we haven’t talked about is the political ramifications here in Britain. Now, obviously Starmer hasn’t embroiled himself and he’s made the right choice in that case, but probably for the wrong reasons. Rather than doing this because he doesn’t want to serve Israel, he’s done this because he doesn’t want to turn the Muslim bloc vote against him any further because he fears losing the next general election.

 

But what we can see here, or what I see here, is a major problem with refugees and they’re talking about potentially two, … There was the, I think it was the Telegraph that stated this. The calculation is that 2.5 million people will be displaced from the region due to this conflict. At the present time, that number could obviously rise and they’re all going to be coming to Europe, they’re not going to be going to Israel.

 

And I’ve always described this as sort of the twin evils of Israel. On one hand, Israel menaces, murders, maims, terrorizes states in the Middle East for its own gain and to maintain dominance in the region. However, the blowback is never for Israel! The blowback of all this ends up hitting Western nations who take the refugees or the people that are displaced.

 

And I think that’s the final piece of the puzzle, that the Greater Israel Project makes Israel more powerful, but by extension due to the knock on effect, it weakens the West, it pushes us closer to a demographic shift that will be unrecoverable and fundamentally takes us a step nearer to being a minority in our ancestral homelands!

 

Natty: Yeah, destabilising its immediate neighbours, like I said earlier, destabilising its immediate neighbours with missiles and bombs and gayops and all the rest of it, is a short timescale. But destabilising European countries with mass immigration and kind of ethnic cleansing and all the rest of that, that’s still just destabilisation. It’s just on a longer time scale. And I alluded to this earlier, but the Israeli gayops and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 operation, well I mean it was the open British government was just aiding like terrorists in Libya, overthrowing Gaddafi. Gaddafi had an agreement with Italy where Italy would pay him to stop, just endless floods of migrants crossing the Mediterranean into Europe. And Israel uncaring that that was in place or seeing that actually destroying that was a good thing because it helped destabilise everything, not just Europe, but top to Libya, decided to enact you know, plans against Gaddafi that ended with him, like I said, with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street.

 

And that led to the migration crisis in 2015, 2014, 2015, which is ongoing today. And I just posted in the private chat there because I just looked this up, Morgoth’s Law, which was spoken by Morgoth himself:

 

“No matter where the conflict is in the world, the refugees coming to Europe will be fighting age black and brown men!”

 

And that’s going to hold true for this conflict.

 

Now that might be coincidental in other cases but certainly with Iran this is the double, not the double edged sword but like the win-win situation for Israel. They get to destabilise nations by direct war against their like direct competitors. But they also get to destabilise their so-called “allies” in terms of European nations in America with all these displaced people who then through their human rights groups and refugee groups and these kind of NGOs get to set up migration routes into the countries who are supposedly their allies that they help destabilise. The knock on for politics in this country, unfortunately there won’t be much because we don’t have much of a choice. And if Reform was in power at the moment it would probably be just balls out gung-ho for Israel. So what choice do you have in this country? I mean it’s probably less than anywhere else.

 

Mark Collett: I will say though, I think Yuro is right in what he said. Every day that Rupert Lowe spends not endorsing Israel is a victory from our point of view. You know, I know that might sound like a cucky thing to say, but it has been so long since we’ve had anybody in any form of position of genuine power who hasn’t immediately been a slave to Israel. And it’s one of the things that Tommy Robinson’s been quite upset actually by a number of things Rupert Lowe has said and done. I don’t know if you saw, but Tommy Robinson said:

 

“You know, Rupert Lowe needs to clarify whether black people can be British. Rupert Lowe needs to clarify his position on all these things!”

 

Well, I find that very interesting because that suggests that Tommy and his handlers are getting quite nervous that Rupert isn’t going to be the Zio lap dog they hoped he would.

 

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Natty: Yeah, the kind of the cucked civnat stuff that always bends towards this like piss-weak conservatism, as we’ve seen with Reform, where it just turns out they’re just as I mean they’re not really even civic nationalists, they’re just Conservatives in that anyone’s British, anyone who steps foot on this island is British.

 

So yeah, I mean funnily enough, Tommy wrote, those questions from Tommy Robinson he tried to put to Rupert Lowe:

 

“We’re in the wake of the Iran war starting and Rupert Lowe not coming out in support of Israel.”

 

And all of a sudden here you’ve got Tommy Robinson popping up like fresh from snorting up lines of coke on a mirror somewhere in America asking him about the same, well as pulling the same gay ops that he tried with the BNP all those years ago, which you know about very well, Mark.

 

Yuro: And after hopping off his private jet with his son, who’s posting about it on Instagram while he begs for money from poor White people who haven’t got a dime to scrape together.

 

Natty: Yeah, Tommy Robinson, just to reiterate, is absolute scum! He is scum! Everything out of Tommy Robinson’s mouth is like a jewish handler somewhere. And that has become more and more clear! There’s no like, no intersection of lines from real dissidency in this country in the West. And Tommy Robinson, this is like a literal jewish mouthpiece being paid by Israel to say the things he does.

 

And if you think there’s some part of Tommy that’s still good or some part of him that’s still worth listening to, then you simply haven’t been paying attention. And you need to, I don’t know, get with the programme or get your head right, because he’s evil, he’s terrible, and he’s a scumbag!

 

Mark Collett: I concur.

 

So I think we’ve had a pretty robust chat. We’re going to do the Superchats in a couple of seconds. If you want a Superchat, please do.

 

But I’ll say this, I think in conclusion. I’ve said this many times before, but the judeo-American empire is the greatest threat to the world!

 

Yuro: And I’ve said they are the great Satan!

 

Mark Collett: Well, it’s not just the greatest threat, is it to White people. Now we obviously are fundamentally our thoughts are for White people. That’s the most important thing for us, that we look after people of European descent.

 

However, it’s not just people of European descent that suffer under the judeo-American State. Obviously Arabs suffer immensely.

 

And a lot of the problems created by the judeo-American States, actions such as these unnecessary wars, these toppling of sovereign regimes, the murder of government leaders in foreign countries, like Colonel Gaddafi. And look, when we say this, we’re not saying that Colonel Gaddafi is our hero or that we loved everything he did, but he was stopping millions of people passing through his country and entering Europe. And I’m sure that when he was toppled, there were many people within the Israeli regime and many leading jews in America and Europe that were very happy that there was going to be even more migrants headed to Europe.

 

And I believe that the only real way that the world can achieve freedom is for the judeo-American Empire to fall. I don’t know whether you guys agree with that. Obviously have 30 seconds each to sum up, or a minute or whatever you need.

 

Natty: That’s totally correct! And that is the line of, like I said a second ago, real dissidency, and this kind of rightoid, Right-wing, edgy conservatism. Like you said, the judeo-American Empire is the threat, is the problem! And if you’re not willing to say that, if you’re not willing to like cheer on its losses, then you’re not on the same level as you should be. I mean, you’re not where you should be. And I’m sure everyone listening to this is pretty much there, but those are the lines. There’s not a Left, Right, divide. There’s not a third Worldist, whatever it is, divide. It’s just you’re either hoping for this evil entity to fail or you’re not at this point. But, and we’re seeing, hopefully we’re seeing part of it sailing here. We’re going to see it fail more and more.

 

So that’s what I’m looking forward to. Not just that, but the visceral feeling when you, like you said, see a cluster munition raining down on Tel Aviv, feels good too. So enjoy it.

 

Yuro: White people the world over shall not be free until organised jewry is disempowered! Inshallah!

 

Mark Collett: That [chuckling] was the most concise you’ve been all night mate. Superb!

 

So, yeah, I think it’s been a very productive stream this evening.

 

And I think we’ve talked about a lot of things that people would want us to talk about. And without being boastful, I think that tonight we’ve kind of hit on more or less every major point, unless we haven’t.

 

But I think we put a lot of effort, obviously into ensuring that we did hit every major talking point tonight. And this was the, probably, I’d say the most comprehensive coverage of this particular issue that anyone will get. So I’m hoping that you guys enjoyed it. And we are going to do the Superchats now.

 

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So thank you to everyone who has Superchatted. And if you haven’t, there is obviously still time. And remember, if you do send a financial contribution, it’s gratefully received because it’s what allows me to keep doing things like this and doing these streams.

 

Anyway, Mr. Skywalker gave $3. Thank you so much! And he said:

 

“You and Red Ice were definitely correct about ZOG’s superior tactical advantage, which I never doubted. Still Iran and its proxies and have fared better than expected. Landing hits on ZOG’s military assets.”

 

And he goes on with another $3 and said:

 

“It appears ZOG is carpet bombing civilian structures in Iran now, as many military bases and missile sites are up to a thousand feet below ground, very difficult to destroy. Do you think ZOG will use ICBMs?”

 

I think we’ve said that actually that fundamentally we are seeing probably a better sort of defense than people may have initially thought. However, obviously going up against the judeo-American empire is absolutely not an easy thing to do they are doing better than we thought.

 

And interestingly, the Americans are already resorting to these horrific tactics of bombing civilian structures. Do you think Trump would go as far as using an ICBM?

 

Natty: It’s possible. You know, who knows? At every juncture where you think Trump isn’t going to do something, you know, sometimes, well, quite often he will just go ahead and do it. The problem with nukes is, one that’s a line that if you cross has real implications. If you drop a nuke on a country just because you started a war and are then subsequently losing that war,

 

Yuro: If you started a war to stop them having nukes and then when you have lost you use them!

 

Natty: Yeah, it kind of undermines, it’s a massive red line. Like I said, probably implications that none of us even can think about at this stage.

 

The second thing is, nukes, for all this talk of tactical nukes, they’re a surface weapon. You detonate them above ground. So they don’t really, in this war against Iran, they don’t really have like a tactical purpose and they would only be used to destroy, like, surface, weak, soft civilian targets, like cities. I mean, nukes are designed to be used on cities that are all like massed troop build-ups, which Iran doesn’t have. So morally it would be reprehensible and tactically it’d be stupid. Although it would just, it would literally just be against civilians. To use them in this war would be like, against civilian targets.

 

Yuro: Yeah, it wouldn’t benefit them one bit. And there’s no way that Russia and China would not respond to it. And that’s not saying that they would launch nukes themselves, but there would have to be some kind of bigger response from them. To get more actively involved.

 

Mark Collett: And I think Natty hit the real point here. The only time nukes have ever been used are on civilian targets. They are not a weapon that is used really for military sites. There’s all this talk of:

 

“Oh, well, people have got tactical nukes now, and a tactical nuke does this and the fallout’s not as great.”

 

And we’ve heard all of these sort of takes before, but fundamentally the only proven use for a nuke is to be used against a civilian target. That’s just the way it is.

 

And I personally believe that if the Americans did this and took it down that route, it would be this fundamental turning point that I’m not sure the world could recover from that you know, it’s happened obviously twice before and it was horrific what the Americans did to the Japanese. But to do it now and for America to be doing it because they started the war and it wasn’t going their way, I think the world would change in a way that we probably couldn’t actually completely understand right now! But I don’t think it will go nuclear.

 

Thank you so much for the two Superchats, though. Ruins in a Landscape gave $50. Thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. Bay of Kings gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thanks, Mark. It appears Natty’s dropped out.”

 

One of his devices has come unconnected, it says on the screen. I’m sure he’ll be back. Arab Social Nationalist gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Thoughts on the spectacle of the Nigerian leader of the opposition, Olukemi Olufuntu Adagoki Badenok and Farage arguing that Starmer hasn’t done enough for the Yanks. There is no opposition in the British establishment. Ignore a whisper of dissent in Parliament. War for jews unites the establishment.”

 

I think this is very interesting. And obviously Badenock and Farage are looking at what got Trump to power. Now, fundamentally, Farage and Badenok are both out of power at the moment and I think they’re both kissing up to Israel as much as they can, hoping that that will be their ticket to a Trump style run at Parliament. And let’s face it, although at the moment Farage is the favourite to win the next general election, that can all change. And he is looking at sort of shoring up his position. But Kemi Badenok is looking at going into a general election where she will be decimated.

 

So it is interesting to see both Badenoch and Farage fighting to see who can be the most philo-semitic on this particular issue.

 

But I’ll say this, and this isn’t meant to be like a cold way to leave the stream, or a black pill at the end or anything of the sort. But there are still an awful lot, and I call them Boomers because they generally are from that sort of age bracket. Now, it’s not to say all Boomers are evil, but there generally is this sort of Boomer mentality of:

 

“Well, bomb them all! Get rid of the Arabs! We need to support Israel! They’re our greatest ally!”

 

And that rhetoric does still appeal to, I would say, a sizable portion of the Boomer population.

 

Natty: Yeah, I agree. And because they don’t really want to think about it and the implications of it. So looks like:

 

“Oh, something else is going on. Well, to hell with them all! Just blow them all up! Bloody Arabs!”

 

And that’s a cultivated mentality. That’s not an accident that people say things like that and think things like that. This callous, cold, bloodthirsty, you know, mentality that’s been instilled in people through, I mean, basically like a real use of the term racism, where it’s:

 

“Yeah, Arabs are like dirty brown people and killing them anywhere is good!”

 

It’s like well, a normal human being, a moral human being doesn’t actually think that way. And if you’ve been led into thinking that some like, cartoon villain version of like, I don’t know, like a Western man, is ridiculous and retarded and immoral, and the people who put that idea in your head have taken a long time to do it, but have succeeded, if you come out making statements like that.

 

Yuro: And to the extent that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon, it’s as a result of having the Pakistani rape gangs that jewish people and organisations brought here and having the Sunni Wahhabi terrorists who are created by the funding of Saudi Arabia and Israel’s allies.

 

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Natty: Oh, yeah, when Israel needed a recruiting ground for ISIS to destabilise Syria, they just used our country. And the overspill where like little girls were getting blown up in concerts or people were getting stabbed on London Bridge, that was exceptional.

 

Yuro: It’s just a bonus to them.

 

Natty: Yeah, that was just like a little side project for them.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much, guys. We’ll go on to the next Superchat. It’s from Tomorrow’s Victims who gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“The vast majority of us here in Yank land do not want the stupid war. Cheers to all my UK people.”

 

Thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10. Thank you so much! And he subscribed for $10. Well, that’s much appreciated. Remember, you can subscribe to me over on Entropy and Rumble, and that means you make a monthly donation.

 

And obviously on Entropy you can subscribe for any amount and Rumble is fixed, $5. But on Rumble, we’ve got a good number of subs now, a good number of followers, and if we had sort of 4 or 500 subs, that would just be phenomenal! And obviously it would really help me financially and it wouldn’t really make a massive difference to people as $5 is what, the price of a large can of Red Bull these days. But if enough people did that, it’d make a huge difference to me.

 

We also have one Superchat over on Rumble, only one tonight, and it’s from Archie P007. Thank you so much! Okay, $5. And you said:

 

“I was all in with Trump, the great awakening and all that he has sold his soul for Israeli gold. No one wins a war, only the people suffer always. Follow the money. Trump is Israel first, it seems.”

 

Well, yeah, I mean, I obviously, I completely agree with that. Trump is Israel first. And Trump is someone who is absolutely committed to Israel, I think, in a way that I’m not sure we’ve ever seen before. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a president this committed to the state of Israel, which is obviously interesting in itself to say that, to say we’ve never had a president that is this committed to Israel, but he certainly is.

 

And at the moment, he is proving his loyalty to that nation to an unbelievable point! And whether this works for him in the long run or not, who knows? But I think it’s fair to say that he is risking everything for his loyalty to people who, …

 

And the interesting thing with these people is they did not support him when he was out in the wilderness. One of the interesting things with Trump is when he was saying:

 

“Look, the election was rigged.”

 

Netanyahu was actually the first foreign leader to say to Biden, to congratulate Biden on his victory. Can you remember that? I mean, Trump went mental about that at the time because he thought Netanyahu was his best friend. But it just goes to show, Trump isn’t actually. Well, he doesn’t actually have any principles whatsoever, does he? Trump is actually a guy that the Israelis can kick him, they can treat him like he’s their boy, their little dog. And when it comes down to it, he will take it time and again.

 

Natty: Yeah, I mean the only difference, just to add the only difference is how open it is now. I mean, like I said earlier, the other president have probably done everything to the detriment of their own people on behalf of Israel. But Trump is just open about it and everyone gets it and everyone knows now and he’s just still ploughing ahead with it. So there’s the difference with this one.

 

Mark Collett: Anything to add Yuro?

 

Yuro: No, no, I think we’ve covered most of that already.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well look, that brings us to the end of the stream.

 

Thank you so much to everyone who has been here and obviously if you haven’t Superchatted and you’re watching this on replay, you can donate anytime you like on replay.

 

And if you do support these streams, especially these long form discussions which take a reasonable amount of time to prepare and we put a lot of effort into, please do consider sending a Superchat and we will keep doing them. Anyway guys, if you want to say good night, we’ll go around the group and then we will wrap things up.

 

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Natty: Night guys. I have been looking at the chat and there’s been a lot of like pretty decent discussion in there. So I appreciate everyone who’s been here and you know, it’s good, it’s good getting all this down and talking about this because a lot of this stuff is beyond the kind of political divide that you see in this country between even nationalists who say things like:

 

“Oh, I don’t care about either side and they can kill each other!”

 

And that’s like the best you can hope for out of supposed Right-wingers and dissidents in this country. But I think a sober analysis and a sober talk about what it all means and what’s happening is worthwhile. So thanks to you two and thanks to the chat for turning up and I’ll see you around.

 

Yuro: Yeah, thanks for having me on. It’s been a good talk with both of you. Obviously we do get a bit of this chat going on with the A-Team, which I’m no longer going to be with because Sam’s back unless I’m a stand-in when someone’s away. But it was good to talk about this stuff. And maybe going forward I will get back into doing some sort of show again on my own. Maybe I’ll revive TASOB. Who knows?

 

Natty: Be very happy if you revived TASOB, buddy. So look forward to it.

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, thank you to both of you, it’s been a great chat. I just want to wrap things up by saying thank you to everybody.

 

Well, thank you first to Natty and Yuro for giving up their evenings. You know, obviously we enjoy doing this. We’re friends in real life and I think we’ve got pretty good chemistry and I think it’s been a pretty entertaining stream. I would also like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated. Remember, you can donate at any point you wish.

 

And finally, a massive thank you to everybody who tuned in. We had really good attendance night. Lots of people tuning in, lots of people enjoying the stream and a really sort of quick, moving, interesting discussion on both the Odysee and the Rumble chat.

 

So thank you to everyone who participated.

 

Anyway, I won’t be back on Sunday. It was unlikely I’ll be back on Sunday because it was my son’s birthday this week and we’re having a little party for him on Sunday. So that will likely be something that may run on and I don’t really want to be rushing through that to do a Sunday night film review or stream. I probably just want to enjoy just a little bit of family time, which I’m sure no one begrudges me. And I will be doing that.

 

Anyway, I’ll be back on Wednesday for Patriotic Weekly Review. Until then, thank you everybody, good night and look after yourselves.

 

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Mark Collett
9 days ago
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@RonP1
9 days ago
On YT comments, I’ve noticed more people seem to be realising that Kosher Tommy’s brand of Nationalism is fraudulent & serves no purpose to British people.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Like the English, the Iranians have no other country. Resistance is the only option.

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Aspect of Divinity
5 days ago
I pray to God that the Iranian people succeed in their war against the Zionists and their Western puppets

@RonP1
9 days ago
A safe rule: Never get into bed with the Jew

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
I have a cousin that married a Jewess. He is dead to me. I used to talk to his Mom frequently and she would complain how his wife basically ended Christmas in their family and how she’s rarely allowed to see her grandchild. I eventually told her “well what do you expect, he married a Jew”. She won’t talk to me anymore lol. My whole family is a bunch of sleepers, but that particular family is fuked. Her other son adopted a South Korean baby when he could have adopted a White baby. I’m done with that whole family.

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@RonP1
8 days ago
Not a good move, I guess people who are not race-conscious fall into this trap,
they probably believe ‘It’s just a religion’ and end up with an ugly contaminated baby

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
Especially someone who marries a Jew, not much you can do there, especially once kids are involved. Even if they subconsciously start to realize their mistake, not only will they never attribute it to the spouse being a Jew, but they are caught in a bind not easily remedied. Same with White people who adopt non-White kids. Dead to me. If there was any possibility to fixing them in the past, that possibility is long gone.

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@RonP1
8 days ago
Imagine working out their Holo story is BS, but having to go along with it for the rest of your life because the wife is Jewish! lol

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
I have my doubts my cousin would ever believe at any point that the holo story is a hoax. An old friend of my family also has a son who married a Jewess and from what I know about the 2 families, they are identical – the Jewess wears the pants, the family is Jewish to the core and Whiteness and Christianity has been stripped away. It’s pathetic.

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@Theos19
6 days ago
Sounds like jgew hollywood did its work well on that family bro, sorry to hear this. There is nothing more shameful for a white man than to have a mixed breed child. Adopting another child not of your race is one of the most cucked things you can do. Raising another mans offspring with resources that should be for your own – how f-cking cucked is that. Someone else fcked your girl and put a kid in her, and you are raising their kid LOL. I was in the queue for the checkout once and I got caught staring at a man with his yellow wife (fat b-tch) and his mixed breed freakish looking son, I was with my wife and son around the same age. I couldn’t help but stare, it was like looking at a crash at the side of the road, or someone freakish you know? The cashier had to call me out and ask if she could help. After he noticed me the guy looked crestfallen and his yellow wife didn’t have any respect for him whatsoever lol.

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Alice1488
8 days ago
I’m ashamed to admit that I started out as anti jihad, solely because of my job… I tried to rescue English girls from Pakistani Muslims who were mass raping torturing them, I did 20 years in my profession and saw the government as 100% anti White, anti English in every way. Mark et al helped me understand the truth!

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@Theos19
6 days ago
Were you a social worker? I recall some of your comments on live chats over the years, harrowing stuff. Thank you for trying to stand up to evil. God will recognize his own.

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Alice1488
6 days ago
Yes for 20 years! I did rescue many English girls, the youngest was age 8! The government is extremely anti White.

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@RonP1
9 days ago
Purim explained…
“One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth, is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther, and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King’s minister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said, did not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them. Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies were slaughtered, including Haman’s ten sons, who were hanged. This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony, intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called “Haman’s Ears,” revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew in our midst”
JRM by Arnold Leese

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
The Young Turks, Anna K and all that group are not “awakening”. They are still anti-White and that will never change. While Anna does have harsh words for Jews as well as Israel, she and TYT are still anti-White libtards. Please stop blowing a load in your shorts because you think she’s hot. It is, indeed, simp behavior and quite embarrassing for us all.
She is/They are ANTI-WHITE. Got it?
Covington was right. Being pro-White is something Whites have a really hard time doing, even those that are racially conscious.

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Judy_Izzum
8 days ago
anti-white or not, she is still the guest of honour at my hand party

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@RonP1
9 days ago
Civ Nat = Kosher Nationalism

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump comes from the jewish community. He has been around them his entire life. They made his career in realestate in New York. He has belonged to them his whole adult life.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Remember: these jews bombed Qatar to kill Hamas’s chief negotiator. They’re out of control, and they cannot be negotiated with.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s not that they don’t think about it: the British establishment is actively antagonistic towards native British people; it’s not indifference, it’s active malice.

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@noreplacement
9 days ago
Jews, Muslims, darkies in general. They all gotta go

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
Next false flag: Nuclear attack on USA, EU country or both. Could be an EMP nuke instead of ground attack.
Lots of dissent for this war on both sides of political aisle, they need something like a “9/11” to force more Westerners to support the war. Approval is falling hard. They need a false flag event. Also would “justify” nuking Iran.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
Shalom

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9 days ago
Excellent episode title. Spot-on. Thanks for your incredibly important work, Mark.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS HE SHITS HIMSELF AT THE BOMB SHELTER!

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
yes I know a jew was in charge of the Armenian genocide. And the fact that Armenians are Christians made it so much enjoyable for the jews.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Natty
I like that the left woke up to the jq but make no mistake they still hate white men. And want white genocide.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
The left did not “wake up to the Jewish question”. They still love and defend Jews. They do not see the Israel problem as a Jewish problem, they see it as a White Supremacy problem. I know it all sounds so contradictory and stupid, but that is what you get with a brainwashed group of people. They only oppose and support what they are told to, without thinking about it.

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Prison Ships
9 days ago
The Honourable Pastor Chuck Baldwin leads +40k AntiZionist Christians out of Liberty Fellowship Montana.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Tommy Robinson drives a Bentley, all while his rightoid followers pay for his “legal fund”.

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Alice1488
8 days ago
The likes are 101 and they need to be 109! Or 110, 111 etc

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Edelweiß
8 days ago
Unless Judeo-Christian civilization is destroyed, the European race will die. Crush Jehovah! Hail Jupiter and give us victory!

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Alice1488
8 days ago
We Whites must destroy the enemy race; they have relentlessly been attempted to destroy us for centuries! We Whites, of European descent must end this madness for the sake of all humanity.

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
it was a bit like watching the A-Team but without the game and gay dancing tbf

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Natty
9 days ago
night guys

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Cheers goyim \o

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@RonP1
9 days ago(edited)
Remember before the 2016 election when the bell end said he would re-investigate 9/11 if he ever got into power

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Ulrich22
9 days ago
most people dont have real opinion at all. they all hope that it goes away and they can forget about it like they did for the last 80 years or so.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Decades of Hollywood propaganda had a big part in it.

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@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Well done lads, I’ve learned a lot tonight

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Alice1488
8 days ago
Me too, watching on replay! My friends dog is healing well, and has thoroughly enjoyed the chicken , skin and stock .

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Imagine a future Britain that has normal relations with foreign countries. It’s not asking for much.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@MarkCollett
– Starmer SAYS he’s not getting involved, but as we know from Gaza, he can assist Israel secretly. Don’t be quick to believe his public stance.

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@Stryker!
9 days ago

@VesselofGrace
I may have to return to my roots. lol

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“Peace through perpetual war, goyim!”

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@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
No Iranian ever called me a goyim

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MarcoEire
9 days ago
I don’t like this new term “Epstein regime” it takes away from “ZOG”, which is much more poignant.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
“ZOG” deters from Jew though.

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Bronze Green Oakwood
5 days ago
“I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen”
That came out of nowhere, nearly spat out my drink there.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
“We tried the internet and spent years tapping to one another on keyboards, because we bought into the idea that ‘education’ was the answer, and if we could just get the truth to people, then things would change. Well, education without action isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit. We got the truth to people, all right, and it turned out to be nothing but a bunch of noise that was simply ignored, because the internet was where it stayed. Nobody ever did anything except tap on keyboards. Tapping on keyboards was no threat to them, we just let off steam and nothing changed. It is now crystal clear to any white man with two brain cells to rub together that the only thing that will make these dogs in power hear the word no is the sound of…”
Brigade

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They are banking on the Americanisation of British politics, and I think they’re miscalculating.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
You’re not as much in the wilderness as you think, Mark. It’s the Dissident right that has moved the mainstream to the Jewish Question.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
I wouldn’t lend a jew my lighter, much less die for him. Imagine it.

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MarcoEire
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
His father before him was the exact same.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Iran, in principle, doesn’t want to be anyone’s vassal. They want mutually beneficial relationships, not to be a junior partner.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
This relationship with Russia is new. Historically, Iran didn’t have options for buying a new airforce, plus they’re fixated on developing their own capabilities.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The jew stands atop a pile of dead children and declares “AND WHAT, GOY?”

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The strength of the jew is that he is bold, and he is willing to shock the enemy with acts of depravity that are unthinkable for normal people.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
There’s no nobility in Western leadership anymore. These decrepit democracies have allowed the lowest filth of society to take power. Good men, sound men, competent men, are locked out of power.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
You can’t be pro-White and drive wedges between Western countries the way Trump does. He’s a diplomatic vandal.

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@why
9 days ago
lol.. its a fun song

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@Germanicus
9 days ago
Purimfest 2026, that’s what I’m calling it

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@noreplacement
9 days ago
Howdy good folk

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Natty
9 days ago
howdy troops

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@Stryker!
9 days ago
Lana Loktef or Anna K….choose one

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
Dumb question on a channel like this. Anna K is a commie leftist no matter what her views
are on Israel and even Jews. She still believes Whites are evil. She is Anti-White! Lana, on the other hand, it 100% OUR PEOPLE. So, again, dumb question.

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re White enough, for goodness sake.

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago(edited)
I generally like your comments, but as semite you’re non-White thus you have no place defining who is and is not “White”. That is OUR turf. Respect the boundaries (pun intended).

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@why
9 days ago
jews rock

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@why
9 days ago
I LOVE JEWS

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@why
9 days ago
bruh jews rock

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@why
9 days ago
wtf

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@why
9 days ago
jews behind it all????

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@why
9 days ago
gubbermints

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@why
9 days ago
bayonet up the bum is gonna feel like a good option

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Truth hurts
9 days ago(edited)
This comment was slimed to death. (Click to view)

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– 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 –
8 days ago
Maybe not all you Jews are paedophiles, but enough are that we can make these generalizations.

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9 days ago

@Aunt-Sally
brutal

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
o/

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
maybe switch every episode between players so all can play?

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
good night volks

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@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
o/

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
That seems like an age ago

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Boomers-of-the-soul, I call them. And they are mostly evil. It’s okay to say so.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump is capable of going nut and ordering a nuclear strike. He kept asking about it during his first term, apparently.

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8 days ago
I believe nuclear false flag first on USA, EU or bother, then they blame Iran and will nuke Iran.

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Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
hahaha

Truth hurts
9 days ago(edited)
As far as the ” Greater Israel ” is concerned, Israel has every right to annexe terriories from Judea and Samaria,not because of ” biblical rights ” but because ever since Israel was created has faced constant aggressive wars from its neighbours..
When an aggresor wages a war and looses he has to pay a price.
Palestinians had many chances to create their own state yet they rejected everyone.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
“ever since Israel was created”
The creation of Israel was itself the original massive aggression which initiated all the interminable ongoing wars and unrest.
“Palestinians had many chances to create their own state”
The Zionists would never allow any viable, truly independent Palestinian state to arise. Such an option has never been on the negotiating table. The Zionist maximalists were determined to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestine begun with the Nakba right from the beginning. Such hardliners have been openly running Israeli governments since Likud was first elected in 1977, and even before that exercised power from behind the scenes. For example, the creation of the Israeli nuclear weapon capability led by Shimon Perez at the behest of Ben Gurion; and the hardliner initiation of the 1967 Six Day War to take control of the West Bank and Golan Heights.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
So you think that when Israel was created in 1948 ,by concetration camps survivors and a few others and was attacked by 5 Arab countries ,it was able to conduct an aggressive war.Ok

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Truth hurts
9 days ago
So you guys think that if Israel is destroyed, UK and USA will be safer with the goat loving Agiadolahs, who beleive martyrdom and the 72 virgins ,being in charge of Iran’s nuclear arsenal.
That’s fine.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
The only reason Muslims pose even the slightest threat to the US or UK is because Jewish-led elites have mass imported them into the US and UK as part of their Great Replacement. The Great Replacement is the Jewish master strategy for stealing White nations from their people. It is not merely Muslims being mass imported. It is infinity non-Whites, both Muslim and non-Muslim.
Jewish supremacism is the fundamental problem, never part of the solution.

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Truth hurts
8 days ago
Wow .I didnt know that the Pakistanis and the Somalians are in the UK because of Israel. Thank you for letting me know.

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
Pakistanis and other immivaders are in the UK because of powerful British Jews and the treasonous elites like Tony Blair who are allied with them. Jewish supremacism includes but is very far from being limited to Zionism.

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Truth hurts
7 days ago
Blair brought the Pakistanis
ok.

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@W_Poe_White
7 days ago
You really are clueless about history. There were some Pakistanis in Britain before Blair but it was Blair’s New Labor government which opened the floodgates to mass non-White immigration into the UK. I recall reading an article by Keith Woods a few years ago about this. He quoted statistics.

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TDOF
5 days ago
Read:
https://archive.org/details/the-death-of-fragility-2nd-edition_202507

@ゼロHope
6 days ago
1:37:25
It is far more accurate to say Trump is saying, do as a I say and i’ll shot. There is no out option for Iran. It’s like “shame they won’t come to the table” but also Unconditional surrender, and we blew up the table and the guy negotiating with us.
There is nothing to negotiate. This is like the last time we attacked Iran, Trump started with the negotiating position of, “bomb yourself.” What is there to even to discuss? Especially after killing the pope-king of shia islam. You can’t simply do that, declare victory and leave. Everything of value with in striking distance, Iran will strike. They have choice, they couldn’t surrender if they wanted to.

Kevin
6 days ago
Ben Gavir currently in hospital and his house burning. so yes, we have seen such attacks

Kevin
6 days ago
they did hit one of the carriers with a drone, but they moved them too far away. why dont you know anything about what you are trying to talk about?

Kevin
6 days ago
Russia can’t produce infinite airplanes! come on! they don’t even have enough planes for their own war

Kevin
6 days ago
Russia is helping and Russia has made many public statements, they are just not covered. before the whole thing started every day Russia was sending plane after plane of weapons to them. Russia also spoke to Trump today and seems to have warned him they won’t let the US topple the government. right after Trump started talking about backing out.

@Kubatism
8 days ago
You are probably right, but the Venezuelan stuff also points to a broader context not discussed here – the China future war. All Chinese allies: Russia (bogged down in Ukraine), Venezuela (oil), Iran (supports Russian war effort and oil) you’ve got South Africa next (the current Afrikaner emigration policy of US, Ramaphosa humiliated) you’ve got only Brazil and India left – and India won’t help China

Alice1488
8 days ago
I love listening to Mark, Natty and Yuro! Actually real information about what’s going on! I pray that Isreal is nuked!

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
ALOHA SNACKBAR

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Warren Balogh is the master of this line of thinking

@Natty

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
The Colonel’s Fried Chicken was the best

0KT0BER
9 days ago
https://rocketreach.co/orla-minihane-email_748059991

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
DIdn’t he mention Ian Wright in particular?

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
In British politics, crumbs from politicians feel like a slap up meal, alas.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
That agreement still has legal force in Libya, if the EU decides to keep up their part.

@vengeance
9 days ago
i dont though

@vengeance
9 days ago
dawson agrees with you mark

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I think every leader will get assassinated that are against jews. Remember that Austrian far right prime minister that was killed in a strange car crash?

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@W_Poe_White
8 days ago
Jörg Haider, killed in a car crash in 2008 while leading the polls in elections to the Austrian parliament.
“[Haider] was Governor of Carinthia on two occasions, the long-time leader of the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ) and later Chairman of the Alliance for the Future of Austria (Bündnis Zukunft Österreich, BZÖ), a breakaway party from the FPÖ….. Haider died in a car accident shortly after leading the BZÖ in the 2008 Austrian parliamentary elections.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s because he’s thick, Mark. It’s as simple as that.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yes Trump’s crass vulgarity and his lack of discretion and restraint have helped a lot.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
*more

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Lowe is a tory of the soul, and he’s on a journey. Perhaps he will do it.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
This stream is the funniest :joy:

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
kek

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re not National Socialists, but they don’t need to be.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
We crank anti-semites are vindicated. Years of naming them, against the protests of pearl-clutching rightoids is bearing fruit. Enjoy the compliment.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago

@utopia148800
the donmeh Turks were jews

Natty
9 days ago

@utopia148800
i get it, shes right now though

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
kek

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It’s like a British person working for an Indian as a servant.

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9 days ago

@Natty
Yeah but working for people who genocided you shows a lack of self respect.

Natty
9 days ago

@utopia148800
everyone comes from somewhere buddy

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Come on Mark an Armenian woman working for Turks? I like people with self respect.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
She wants to be careful though. Sometimes, she’s seconds from throwing Romans.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
hahaha

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9 days ago
NO HE IS GREEN!!!

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
She is Armenian

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
MAGA or MIGA

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Tucker is a very naughty goy. He might end up having some sort of accident.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Tucker was recently denounced by Trum and kicked out of the “MAGA” movement.

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
The Iranians have developed small submarines that are essentially underwater “drones” with which they can target American ships. It’s not just missiles that are a threat to Americans.

@Stryker!
9 days ago
Had a boomer tell me yesterday: “thank g-d trump bombed Iran. My grandbabbies are safe” hhhhWuuuuut???

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
My beloved Ana. Watching her journey has been terrific.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
+his jewish mentor

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yep

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lots of Russian cargo planes delivered something to Iran

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
We don’t know because help would certainly not go through official channels. Who knows how much Russian aid actually is.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“You have the clock, but we have the time” – Some Ayatollah.

@bagelsandloxism
9 days ago
they have hypersonic Iran is an advanced country

@vengeance
9 days ago
there are no more missles. they cant be made any faster.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lawnmowers of mass destruction

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
they say 80%

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
then the party starts

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yeah they’ve used the old stock to drain the AD systems. The good stuff is yet to come, when the jews run out of American interceptors

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
I hope they wait for the interceptors to be used up first

@vengeance
9 days ago
death, death

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
lol

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
lol

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9 days ago
or Mario

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Iran has no allies only jew controlled enemies.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s becoming impossible for Iranian moderates to argue against getting the nuclear bomb.

Ulrich22
9 days ago
they suck

Ulrich22
9 days ago
lol russia cant do shit

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It didn’t help Syria

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Sanctions – and historic Russian reluctance to sell them jets

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
because that costs a ton of money

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
I’m sure that fatwa still stands now that he’s dead.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Iran has this hyper-fixation on self-sufficiency. It’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
China will look at this shitshow and conclude that they’ll defeat the Americans if they attempt to stop unification with Taiwan.

Ulrich22
9 days ago
russia and the US suck

Ulrich22
9 days ago
endless whataboutism

@noreplacement
9 days ago
The heat pumps are good for some things. But not homes and DHW

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Heat pumps are noisy and do not get hot enough. We have one

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Winter in Europe will get interesting

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
110%

@Natty

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
can you imagine making love to jigsaw

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
imagine the smell…

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
I wonder what his reaction was when he first saw her knob?

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
yuck.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Nihil sub sōle novum, governments have been doing this since the dawn of time since the first peasant revolts.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
he needed to attack before the midterms

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump is in constant touch with Laura Loomer, and he thinks that she is connected to the base and he listens to her jewish lies.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Franco,

@MarkCollett
Let’s not forget Franco. He lasted till the 70s.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@utopia148800
Doing that might be the point of no return.

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9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
it depends how much murder the government is willing to commit and I think they will just start mass killing people.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
The Peace President

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Of course, everything was done on purpose, I wouldn’t be surprised if they said that the girls read Mein Kampf.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They could topple the regime. The monarchy is despised.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Murdoch Murdoch episode with the Trump train lol

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9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
LOL!

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Andrew Neill looks like a clump of haemorrhoids

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
gross

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9 days ago
HAHAHAHAHA

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They think they can make the state collapse, which means that they refuse to believe that Iran is a real, capable country. This tendency to underestimate and insult the enemy could be their undoing. They did the same with Yemen. They couldn’t understand the resilience of the Yemenis.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
shows the power of PR and sticking to the script

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
they wanted to hit the girls school

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago

@utopia148800
yes!

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@why
who is that aimed at?

Natty
9 days ago

@why
do we?

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9 days ago

@Jagdtiger
I don’t know it’s all the same fake terrorist org working for israel

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
We’ve been assured they do “surgical strikes” for decades. Either they can, or they can’t – or they won’t. It’s clearly deliberate.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
“Iran military says Strait of Hormuz remains open, but any US, Israeli ship will be targeted” lol

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9 days ago

@why
9 days ago
yet you support faggots who want to blame women and hitler — like keith woods and nativist

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
isis k

@utopia148800

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
You guys remember when a jew was screaming at a Russia Today reporter that Russia will pay for supporting Iran than a few months later a giant ISIS terrorist attack was launched at a Russian Mall?

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
they did the legal games with the German soldiers after the war, too. Instead of POW, called them Disarmed Enemy Forces. To circumvent the Geneva conventions.

0KT0BER
9 days ago
Terror Cimbricus

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
I don’t think America actually has allies, but I think you hinted at that

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
always, because America is controlled by jews so they essentially act as jews.

@teja
9 days ago
Trump Judenknecht!

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Yes America does betray its “allies”.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
no people just have short memories, When Bush senior told the Shias to rebel against Saddam and America will help them than when they revolted Saddam brutally massacred them and America refused to help.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
I’m waiting for the sequel to USS Liberty

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Right.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
It’s obvious now why Trump kidnapped and took over Venezuala. Oil

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump, with his bad-faith fake negotiations has changed America’s international standing forever. Who on earth would do a deal with them now? He’s a diplomatic arsonist. Look what he’s done to Canada.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Epstein clique works too

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
They are using the term regime since Saddam

@why
9 days ago
what are we talking about guys?

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
And I imagine there no advisors around Trump who are willing to tell him things he doesn’t want to hear.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Trump hates nuance, and complexity, and he wants reality to match his simplistic hopes. He wants this to be easy, and he cannot accept that it isn’t easy at all.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
or, or, jews being stoned.

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9 days ago

@why
hahah jews don’t think so. That’s why they had Sam Hyde fired.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They’re targeting the organs of the state: police stations, hospitals, etc.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
Every Single Time

Obscure Truth
9 days ago
Yes, it’s amazing how they managed to conquer all those countries one by one.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
They are the government. The capital is theirs, and they act as the state.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I mean what do you except? Tommy is an ex convict and a petty criminal and fraudster. And He claims he is jewish.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
he went full jew slave. Bet he is circumcised too like a good slave.

@N-towerConstructor
9 days ago
Trump went full retard

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@Chief_Moody
Hi Chief. I understand why people follow Tommy Robinson, jews are putting tens of millions of Pounds behind him and he has a large organization and social media boost. Essentially he has hundreds of liars on the payroll.

Chief Moody
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
That is true. lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@Chief_Moody
Tommy’s been on a coke bender since October 7. I’m not sure he’s slept for three years.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Albert Einstein wrote a letter to Roosevelt imploring him to use nuclear weapons against Germany but the letter sat on Roosevelt’s desk because Roosevelt has died overnight.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Andinia Plan

Chief Moody
9 days ago
Tommy Robinson and co have been very ghoulish over Iran. How people still support them, I’ll never understand.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The Israelis are colonising Patagonia right now.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Japan had already offered surrender 3 times. They still nuked ’em

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s real, Natty. Israeli journalists are happy to talk about it.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s real. They talk about it in Hebrew media.

Chief Moody
9 days ago
It’s very blatant what Israel are doing with Iran. It’s shameless at this point.

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
Being desribed as America’s streetwalker is like getting pimped out by a literal whore

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
Well that actually happens once an opportunistic whore ages – she becomes a pimp.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Well, there is no planning for this war. The war aims change hour to hour, and Iraq was extremely well-organised.

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
It’s always demoralizing to see conservative patriots in America viewing our country’s greatest ambition as being Israel’s bitch

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Yeah they just don’t care. What will the goyim do? Nothing.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
“The Dossier”. At least they had that.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago

@DoubleOhSieben
Farage has been absolutely hysterical over this. “We have angered the Americans!”

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
9-11 made the anti-war position more difficult back then.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
Not me. The state of most young fatties, they won’t even make it to a hospice

MarcoEire
9 days ago
Has anyone else seen Asmongolds blatant warmongering?

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Once the Bush administration got away with lying about Sadam and terrorism ties and a complete fabrication of weapons of mass destruction, it was GAME OVER for government accountability.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Boomers using their final breaths to comment from their hospice beds.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
Plenty of young folk think that way too sadly

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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews
8 days ago
100%. GenX is largely Boomer 2.0

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Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The Bahraini government is illegitimate, and delusional. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government falls during this conflict. The Bahraini people stand with Iran, by and large.

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9 days ago

@noreplacement
There was a Yemeni calling in to a Bahrain TV show and the Bahrain TV host said there is no war in Bahrain

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
Bibi WhataYahoo

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Netanyahu has such contempt for the goyim. The fact that he thinks Americans are stupid is becoming very obvious. A rational person wouldn’t buy a used car from him.

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago

@noreplacement
The israelis and the the jew controlled countries hiding a damage.

@noreplacement
9 days ago

@utopia148800
that’s what I meant ha ha

MarcoEire
9 days ago
All true, I wish we weren’t inundated with ai slop of Tel Aviv

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
jews and degenerates; European America is in the past.

Natty
9 days ago

@noreplacement
it only looks that way

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
The absolute state of the USA…

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Winged Lawnmowers from Hell

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
I just want to see Tel Aviv flattened.

@noreplacement
9 days ago
It is difficult to find any Iranian fight back video. It all looks one way success for the Epstein coalition

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
The UAE is cracking down on videos; Bahrain has banned street gatherings; the jews are cracking down on footage of Tel Aviv. The true extent of this madness won’t be cleat until the dust – or sand – settles.

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
It’s hard to be circumspect, but it’s best to be cautious and not get one’s hopes up.

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9 days ago

@Aunt-Sally
haha you do it than.

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Yuro needs a wedgie tbh

MarcoEire
9 days ago
PURIM FEST 26

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
Evening volks!

MarcoEire
9 days ago
Excellent Germanicus

Secure the future of our people
9 days ago
It’s karma for Mark being very mean to Sam last stream!

Based and butterfly-pilled
9 days ago
Greetings fellow Social Nationalists

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
\o

Esau rising
9 days ago

@ArabSocialNationalist
o/

@Aunt-Sally
9 days ago
Natty

Natty
9 days ago
thats good lol

Arab Social Nationalist
9 days ago
Greetings war-weary goyim.

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
o/

@Jagdtiger
9 days ago
Epstein regime

@vengeance
9 days ago
o/

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Jacob Hersant: So this is a video where I’m going to explain this new Bill that the Australian government is bringing out in the wake of the Bondi shooting where two Islamists went and shot a bunch of jewish people. And the jewish lobby has pressured the government to bring out these really extreme laws which practically nobody is happy about, really. Only the jews are really happy. Labor Party obviously draughted these laws on behalf of the jewish lobby. But everyone else seems pretty annoyed about it, so I’ll go through it. I haven’t seen any videos that comprehensively go through what the Bill says and what is so egregious and why it’s problematic. So I’ll do that in this video.

 

First I’ll give a disclaimer that I’m not a lawyer. No lawyer has gone through and talked about all of this stuff. So unfortunately I’m the best that you have. The only reason I’m interested in it is because it’s going to be affecting me and my organisation, the National Socialist Network. So that’s why I’m making this video.

 

I’ll be providing photos of the Exposure draught as I read it. I’ll also show the link so you can go read it yourself to make sure that I’m not misinterpreting it or I’m not making any mistakes. If I’m making a mistake, please message me, tell me how I’m wrong in my interpretation, and I’ll be happy to retract what I said and correct it for people, because I just want to try to give an honest assessment of what this law is and the effects it will have on society.

 

So this is a massive bill, they call it an Omnibus Bill. It is going to change a lot of things.

 

So a lot of its about to do with criminal law and hate speech. But it also does have some gun stuff. Not going to talk about the gun stuff because I don’t know much about guns. And this video is just going to be too long. I’m more interested and know more about the politics aspect of it and the hate crimes and hate speech and that aspect of it.

 

So that’s what I’m going to be talking about. I’m sure there’s someone that can talk about the gun aspect of it and in all likelihood the two are going to be split. The gun stuff will probably be chucked into its own Bill and the hate stuff will be bundled in its own bill.

 

I’m going to start off by talking about what this law does regarding hate and what they call “violent extremism, hate speech, hate crimes” and all the like. It’s all doublespeak. The bill’s called “Combating Anti-semitism, Hate and Extremism Bill 2026”. So in the title, they don’t even hide who it’s for. Obviously, on behalf of the jewish lobby, they’re the only ones that support this law currently. And because they have an outsized influence over Australia’s politics, that’s why this egregious Bill has even been introduced.

 

Part One is “Aggravated offences for preachers and leaders”.

 

So this just goes into the Criminal Code and it makes it so that there’s a bunch of laws where if a person is a religious official, or a spiritual leader, while they commit the offence, they can be imprisoned for longer. So it aggravates it makes the judge give them a more severe sentence. And the charges specifically are to do with encouraging violence and encouraging terrorism and all these kind of charges.

 

So when you look at the Bill here, it doesn’t specify what the crimes are, but those crimes are basically advocacy of violence and advocacy of terrorism. If this Bill passes, if you are an imam, or a priest [or rabbi?] or some other spiritual leader of a religion, you can be punished more because you advocate violence. So that’s part one.

 

And then I’ll move down to Part Six, bundled part six with part one, because it’s the same kind of thing, the same kind of change there. And it’s just for when these spiritual leaders, the charges are when you’re trying to get a young person, someone under 18, to commit violence as well. And more or less the same thing, though it is in a different section of the bill. They have changed the penalty to a person might commit an aggravated offence if the person is a religious official or other spiritual leader.

 

So in terms of grooming children for violence or for advocating terrorism or inciting violence against a particular group, if you are some sort of spiritual leader, religious official, you can be punished more severely. This is obviously going after Muslims. This is to punish Muslims more severely if they’re caught saying stuff about Israel and Palestinian resistance against Israel. This is pretty obviously what this is directed towards.

 

So Part Two is there’s increased penalty for using a postal or similar service to menace, harass or cause offence. And that’s been increased to five years in jail. So that’s what Joel Davis has been charged with and he’s still being remanded now. I think it’s been two months or maybe even more.

 

[06:09]

 

So Part Three is “Aggravated sentencing factor”. And this affects the Crimes Act 1914. And it basically makes it so all criminal offences can be aggravated by being racist. So if you commit a crime because you’re racist, you can be punished more severely by the judge.

 

Read out the specific part:

 

“The person’s conduct constituting the offence was motivated, whether wholly or in part, by hatred of another person, or a group of persons, and that hatred was because of the person’s belief that the target person or persons in the target group are distinguished by race or national or ethnic origin.”

 

So theoretically, if somebody raped a woman because he hated that woman’s race or nation or ethnicity, he can be punished more severely than somebody who rapes a woman for choice and noble reasons, like lust or hatred of some other kind.

 

Every single crime now, if you can be proven to be a racist, you get punished more severely. That’s basically what this aggravated sentencing factor is if the crime you commit is motivated by hate, well, racism or nationalism, then you can be punished more severely. That’s what this change means.

 

But basically every crime can be turned into a hate crime, essentially. So if you assault or rape or murder, then it can aggravate it if it’s proven that you’re a racist.

 

So Part Four is “Prohibited hate group”. And a prohibited hate group is a designation that the Home Affairs Minister can give out. So the current Home Affairs Minister right now is Tony Burke, for the Labor Party. This legislation allows the government to ban particular organisations. It can ban organisations, it can unban them as well, and they can add multiple names to a ban.

 

So if you ban an organisation, you can’t just rename it because that’s going to be banned as well. They’re just going to add it as an alias. So you can’t just get around the ban by rebranding.

 

So to be designated a prohibited hate group, that group has to have committed a “hate crime”. And they define what a hate crime is so here it is. 1 14. A. So definition of a hate crime:

 

“A hate crime is conduct that would constitute any of the following offences. Urging or threatening violence and offences against groups or members of groups to the extent that the targeted group is distinguished by race or national or ethnic origin.”

 

So either:

 

“Publicly displaying prohibited symbols or giving a Nazi salute.”

 

So a hate crime can either be threatening violence or it can be publicly displaying prohibited symbols, like the swastika or giving the Nazi salute. And then here it says:

 

“A hate crime is also conduct that was engaged in at a time before a provision referred to in subsection (1) commenced and would constitute an offence against the provision had the provision been in force at that time.”

 

What this means is that you don’t have to have committed a hate crime after this legislation passed. If you’ve given the Roman salute or you’ve displayed a swastika, as your group, then you’ve committed a hate crime and you can be listed as a hate organisation. So you can be punished retroactively. I will further explain this, but make no mistake, being listed as a hate organisation is a punishment in itself. So the process is the punishment!

 

And you got to remember, a hate crime can be just political expression, like flying the swastika or moving your arm in a gesture in a Nazi salute. That is political expression. And if you just do that, you can be banned for being an organisation that gives the Roman salute. So you can be banned for retroactive conduct.

 

This is insane, because laws aren’t supposed to be retroactive. Non-retroactivity is a fundamental legal principle. That law should only apply to actions occurring after the law was enacted, not before, preventing new laws from punishing past behaviour.

 

Everyone just takes that for granted. But when you have the jewish lobby demanding laws, they really don’t care about what we take for granted, obviously.

 

For banning an organisation, a conviction is not required. So:

 

“A person does not need to have been convicted of a hate crime in order for the AFP minister (which is the Home affairs guy, so Tony Burke) to be satisfied, an organisation has engaged in conduct of a kind mentioned in paragraph one.”

 

And then there is:

 

“No procedural fairness required. The AFP minister (so Tony Burke) is not required to observe any requirements of procedural fairness in deciding whether or not the AFP Minister is satisfied for the purposes of this section.”

 

So basically that means the people that are affected by the banning, so say the National Socialist Network was banned, we get no hearing, no say, no chance to respond, no recourse, no explanation about what’s happening. You’re just basically told:

 

“Tough luck! Like, enjoy being banned!”

 

So yeah, you get no hearing, you get no way to explain yourself or try to defend yourself in front of a judge or anything like that. And that’s what they’ve written right here, “no procedural fairness required”. Which is another legal principle that the jewish lobby don’t care about. They don’t care about what’s called natural justice or procedural fairness.

 

So:

 

“Director-General of Security advice to be provided before specifying an organisation as a prohibited hate group.”

 

So Mike Burgess has to give advice to Tony Burke or the Director General of Security has to give advice to the AFP minister and he has to be satisfied that:

 

“The organisation has engaged in activities, and that the activities or the like, the continued engagement in the activities would or are likely to increase the risk of politically motivated violence or of the promotion of communal violence.”

 

You have to use your intelligence here and think about what they’re saying. Obviously the logic that people like Mark Burgess are going to say is that because you’re engaging activities like giving the Roman salute that those activities are going to make it more likely that people go do terrorism.

 

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So that’s what it’s saying and that’s what’s going to be argued. So if this Bill passes, Mike Burgess is gonna go tell Tony Burke:

 

“Well, yeah, giving the Roman salute makes it more likely that terrorism is going to happen in the future. They need to be banned!”

 

If Mike Burgess thinks that giving the Roman salute, giving the Hitler salute and saying “Heil Hitler” and wearing black clothes makes it more likely that someone is going to go out and blow up something or kill a bunch of people, well then your organisation gets banned.

 

So that’s what happens. So they can list an organisation. And when an organisation gets listed, then it opens up people to be charged with a number of offences that relate to that prohibited hate group.

 

Those offences are:

 

“Directing the activities of a prohibited hate group.”

 

Which can get you 15 years in jail.

 

“Membership of a prohibited hate group.”

 

And you have to keep in mind that being a member of an organisation you can be an informal member of the organisation and you can be charged with this because they define member of a prohibited hate group as:

 

“A member of an organisation includes a person who is an informal member of the organisation and a person who has taken steps to become a member of the organisation. And in the case of an organisation that is a body corporate, a director or an officer of the body corporate.”

 

So if you’re in so-called informal member of an organisation, you can be charged. So:

 

“Membership of a prohibited hate group”, 7 years.

 

“Recruiting for a prohibited hate group”, 15 years.

 

“Training involving a prohibited hate group”, 15 years.

 

“Getting funds to, from or for a prohibited hate group”, 15 years.

 

“Providing support to a prohibited hate group”, 15 years.

 

And most of these offences have a lower offence if you’re convicted for one of them while being reckless rather than, I guess knowingly doing it. So being reckless means that you’re aware of a substantial risk that you’re doing the crime, and it changes like the imprisonment from like 15 years to 10 years if you’re only proven to have recklessly done it.

 

And the only defenses that you have are either you didn’t do the crime or you were a government agent when you were doing the crime. So if you’re some sort of informant or secret agent infiltrating a hate organisation then you have a defence, but otherwise you have no defence.

 

This legislation is obviously directed towards having a chilling effect on advocacy and activism of organisations outside of the mainstream. That’s obvious.

 

And you gotta remember that there is no procedural fairness. The fact that your organisation gets banned and then you have 15 years hanging over your head, that’s the punishment!

 

And obviously having your rights taken away that you can’t politically associate or politically express yourself in that particular way, that’s the punishment!

 

And I’ll go off on a little bit of a tangent here. In my case, the Roman salute case that was brought against me in the Magistrates Court for which I was convicted and then I appealed. Went to the county court and was had had the conviction against me upheld. They argued that the Roman salute offences are very narrow and hence it could be justified taking away that form of political expression. They did admit it was political expression but they said they could take it away because it was relatively narrow what it was.

 

Well you know, now it’s having very serious consequences because that offence, giving a slew has been recategorized as a “hate crime” and it can be used to retroactively ban a organisation like a 300 man organisation and threaten its leaders with 15 year sentences if they continue. A lot of the judiciary get too focused. They get narrow minded, they don’t understand like how dangerous these laws you give them an inch, they’re going to take a mile. And this legislation is taking a mile. It is insanity! Also vindictiveness! Like I don’t know how it could occur to you to have a maximum of 15 years for some of these charges when you can be prohibited as a hate group because you moved your arm in a particular way that offends the jews!

 

And another case that I saw on the news today actually funnily enough was someone who’s been charged with threatening to kill the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. And the charge for which he’s been charged, threatening to kill an MP is a maximum of five years.

 

So you get a maximum of five years for threatening to kill an MP. If you direct the activities of a prohibited hate group. A prohibited hate group that gave the Roman salute. You can be in prison for 15 years. That sounds perfectly reasonable!

 

So Part Five is “Racial vilification offence”. And this offence is:

 

“Publicly promoting or inciting hatred. A person commits an offence if the person engages in conduct in a public place.”

 

And to be clear, the Internet includes a public place.

 

Basically everywhere is a public place except for inside your own home where it can’t be seen by the public. But the Internet counts, as is sending it through the mail, some sort of business, or out on the street or something like that. All counts as a public place.

 

So the conduct is:

 

“Promote or incite hatred of another person, or a group of persons because of their race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, or disseminate ideas of superiority over or hatred of another person, or a group of persons because of the race, colour, or national or ethnic origin of the target or target group. And the conduct would, in all the circumstances, cause a reasonable person who is the target, a member, or a member of the target group to be intimidated, to fear harassment or violence, or to fear for their safety.”

 

And they call the “reasonable person test” as an objective test, but really it just comes down to the judge to decide who a reasonable person is, to describe who the reasonable person is so really, it isn’t actually a objective test. It’s just a subjective test. Like, it comes down to what the judge thinks. It’s not like there’s any empirical data about who this average person is based on polling or anything. It just comes down to the judge, who he thinks, he or she thinks this reasonable person of the group of a particular ethnic or racial group is.

 

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And obviously you can be charged here with a criminal offence if you:

 

“Disseminate ideas of superiority over a group of persons because of their race, colour, national or ethnic origin.”

 

So you can’t say that particular nations are better than other nations. So if you say “Australia is better than China”, well, you could be charged. You could be charged with this. I’m not saying that that’s likely to happen, but with what this law says, I’m somebody who is disliked by the government. If I said that “Australia is a better society, Australia is a better nation than China”, well, that’s disseminating an idea of superiority over a group of persons because of their national origin. Maybe I could say that and someone feels intimidated or they feel fearful. And the issue is, there’s so many people in this society that feel intimidated or fear from the littlest things. We’ve become a very soft society. And judges love to rule based on sentimentality when it comes to these things! And you can be imprisoned up to five years for publicly promoting or inciting racial hatred. Yeah!

 

So:

 

“For the purposes of subsection 1, it is immaterial whether the target or members of the target group actually are distinguished by the particular race, colour, or national or ethnic origin, or the conduct actually results in hatred of another person or group of persons, or the conduct actually results in any person feeling intimidated, feeling harassment or violence, or feeling fearing for their safety.”

 

So what that says is that they don’t have to prove that any person of that particular race or nation or ethnicity was present and kind of a target of it. They don’t have to prove that hatred was actually kind of incited in somebody. They don’t need to prove that anyone was intimidated, felt harassed, or feared for their safety. None of that actually has to be proven because a judge can come up with this magical, reasonable person of that group, this imaginary person, and say:

 

“This person has been targeted. This imaginary person has been targeted. It could potentially have led to hatred being incited in other people and it could have potentially intimidated or made someone, this imaginary person, fear for their life.”

 

At least you have a defense here for religious teaching or discussion:

 

“Subsection (1) does not apply to conduct that consists only of directly quoting from or otherwise referencing a religious text for the purpose of religious teaching or discussion.”

 

So this is lucky for our Muslim friends who can quote directly from that Hadith saying that the stones and the trees are going to tell them where the so the Muslims are safe in that regard, and so they should be.

 

“Part 7. Hate symbols – Reversing the burden of proof for public interest elements of prohibited symbols offences.”

 

So it means that there’s already these hate symbol laws. So if you display a hate symbol or you display the swastika or give the Roman salute, there were defenses saying that you could do these things as long as there was a public interest like a religious, academic, educational, artistic, literary or scientific purpose that isn’t contrary to the public interest.

 

And previously the prosecution would have to prove themselves that this hate symbol or the salute wasn’t given for one of those legitimate purposes. So it’s been flipped now, that if you display this a symbol or give the salute or anything like that, then you can be charged. And then you have to prove that you did it for a legitimate purpose, like a religious, academic, educational, artistic, literary or scientific purpose.

 

And so basically this gets rid of the presumption of innocence, and so it makes it easier for the prosecution to charge people and drag them through the courts. Because if you post a picture of Hitler with the swastika, you can be charged. They don’t need to prove that you did it for hateful reasons. Actually you need to prove that you didn’t do it for hateful reasons.

 

So that’s what it literally does. It reverses the burden of proof. An example would be if I posted a photo of Hitler next to the swastika. I can be charged easier because the prosecution doesn’t have to prove that I posted it for a hateful purpose. I have to defend myself in court and say, perhaps I posted it for an academic purpose or to teach or something like that.

 

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The other thing is the prohibited hate group symbols are added to the criminal offences. So it’s not only just terrorist symbols and the swastika and the Roman salute. So if NSN got banned, the converging arrows, for example, the converging arrows, flag or the patch, you’d be able to be charged with displaying that.

 

These laws also have a minimum one year in jail. So a judge has to give you a year in jail if you’re convicted of this.

 

I’ve went through all the hate speech stuff in this Bill with you. I think it’s clear that the people that wrote this Bill don’t care about the basic legal principles that are supposed to underpin the whole of our judicial system, like natural justice, presumption of innocence, freedom of speech, freedom of association, proportionality. Non-retroactivity.

 

So what has been the response? One Nation has come out opposing it, which is good for them. The Liberal Party have come out opposing it as well, but they’ve said that they want to come up with their own version of it, which I suggest would be far more watered down than this, which would be good.

 

But these laws don’t need to be passed. There are laws that stop people. Well, that criminalises terrorism. It’s not like the person who went and shot those people in Bondi is at liberty because there’s a fault in the laws. He’s going to spend the rest of his life in jail. Changing the laws isn’t going to fix any of this. It’s going to make it worse!

 

The real danger isn’t what we have to do to apparently solve “hate”. The problem is what are we going to do to solve the fact that we have a government that wants to destroy all the principles that are supposed to underpin our judicial system because they don’t like particular groups, opposition groups in society, whether they be National Socialist or Islamist.

 

The response from the entire online Right has been very positive. Like everyone is raging about this, like it’s all that anyone is talking about in the Australian Right-wing now. Everyone has come out against it.

 

We have the Home Affairs Shadow Minister, this guy, the dishonourable Jonathan Duniam, some total nobody no one’s ever heard of or cares about. And he was mocking the National Socialist Network for us, saying that this Bill is draconian.

 

Jonathan Duniam:

 

“Of course they cite in that statement that these laws ‘most draconian in the universe, making freedom of speech impossible, etc, etc’. Clearly they’ve seen this identification of formal groupings and hate group listing etc., as something to try and avoid, which is good in one sense.”

 

And then I think he went and checked the Internet and saw that everyone else was saying it as well and then he changed his positions.

 

What’s the response been from the Muslims? The Muslim response has been good. They’ve been coming out against it and you know, they shouldn’t be banned. There’s been like arguments that the problem with these laws is it doesn’t come out hard enough against Islam. These laws shouldn’t be passed at all! Even if they were going to be just confined to Muslims. These laws need to be opposed. We don’t need to ban any of these Muslims organisations. Now just because two Muslims went and killed 15 people, it doesn’t mean that we have to destroy the judicial system that governs 27 million people. Like the threat is not these two Muslim terrorists killing 15 people, it’s the Commonwealth that is unnecessarily going to destroy all of our freedoms. Proposing this supposed solution that’s not even going to do anything. It’s not going to do anything to stop terrorism.

 

And then we saw fat Ross who runs the White Rose Society, she’s an anti-fascist. She described it as “state oppression”. I think you’re right there for once. And then Socialist Alternative came out against it. Their front group for Palestine. So they’ve got a group they use to organise Palestinian activists. They came out against it, so good on them.

 

Jews say it doesn’t go far enough. To be expected. I don’t think I need to comment much more on that.

 

Mainstream media has largely came out against it as well. They’ve been publishing voices that come out against it. They haven’t really been publishing any voices that go for it other than the jews. And everyone, when it comes down to it, everyone hates this Bill other than the jews. And luckily I don’t think it’s gonna pass.

 

And the Greens have come out against it. But they said they might be open to just amending it. But I’m not sure how likely that actually is. But wouldn’t it be just a perfect summation of how stupid and disgusting this country is, if after a Muslim terrorist attack in Bondi they draughted these laws which go to severely persecute and oppress National Socialists and Islamists, if the Greens amended it so that it didn’t go after Islamists and then it only affected National Socialists! So White Australians and National Socialists would be the only ones who get punished for an Islamist terrorist attack. Stranger things have happened. That sounds like something the Commonwealth would do. And that just tells you how reprehensible it is.

 

But in the first place, the fact that we are under threat, the National Socialist Network is under threat from laws that are draughted up from a Muslim terrorist attack says all that it needs to. Why are we getting banned from for an attack that has nothing to do with us? I could at least understand the rationale, even though I’d disagree with it, if some sort of Right-wing or nationalist person went out and shot people, or shot an MP or something like that, I could understand the rationale. But for us to be banned for Muslim terrorism?

 

Yeah, with the Greens and the Coalition coming out against its looking more and more like it’s not going to pass, which is a good thing.

 

Nonetheless, the National Socials Network is disbanding. Some people are disappointed by that. I saw someone on Twitter, or X as it’s now called, said that:

 

“We should be martyrs and that we should continue operations until we get charged with these 15 year offences.”

 

He said:

 

“Just be the martyrs, bro!”

 

Well, perhaps you should do that in my stead. Maybe put on a converging arrows patch, make your own one, dress up in black and go out there, get arrested on our behalf. Just be a martyr, bro!

 

And there’s not going to be any way to get around this. Like they’re not going to be charitable, they’re not going to help you out. If you even slightly do something that could be perceived as continuing the organisation after it gets banned, you’re going to be arrested, charged, remanded and facing serious jail time.

 

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There’s no oversight in terms of whether or not the listing is correct. Like you get listed, it’s a done deal! You go before a judge, if you are genuinely continuing or doing any of those offences, there’s nothing he can do. He has to find you guilty or you go before a jury. And if they find you guilty, then you’re getting punished severely. You’re getting probably half a decade in jail at the very least.

 

And there’s been people on the far-Right who love to engage in victim blaming. So they say:

 

“The only reason this is happening is because the National Socialist Network engages in street activism, dresses up in black, praises Adolf Hitler, gave the Roman salutes in the past.”

 

All of that kind of hard hitting, confronting street activism. But we’re not the ones that pass these laws. Like agency obviously belongs to the legislature and the people who control the people who run the legislature, so obviously the jewish lobby.

 

So if anyone is to blame for these laws, it’s not the groups that are being banned. And it’s being done in response to these two Muslim shooters in Bondi. But it’s not even their fault. It’s not the fault of Muslim preachers, it’s not the fault of National Socialist activists. And this is the thing. It’s taking the blame away from the actual agent that has perpetrated this, who has created this, and it’s pushing it on the people who are getting targeted and who are going to suffer the most from these laws.

 

The real blame is the jewish lobby and the Australian government. That is why these laws are coming through. The people that push for them, the people who wrote them up and the people that passed them. But the issue is even if we had better optics, these laws would still be being brought through and we would still be under threat of getting banned. And this has been proven by other countries where you have groups like Generation Identity in France that got banned by the French state. I don’t think anyone’s gonna argue that their optics were an issue. Their optics were pretty tame, yet they got banned.

 

So whatever represents the strongest force of nationalism in a particular country, the jewish lobby and the government is going to try to legislate them out of existence. That’s what’s going to happen. And if we were the Nationalist Network and we didn’t wear black clothes and we just wore regular clothes, I guess regular bourgeois clothes, maybe suits and ties and had said “Australia for the Australians”, if we were the biggest group, we would still be getting banned. That’s the truth!

 

In this regard, all roads lead to Rome, as I’m sure some of you have seen in the memes recently with the rabbit with its clock. You know, it doesn’t matter which road you go down, you’re eventually going to go to Rome and it doesn’t matter what road you go down when you have an unjust system, you’re eventually going to be banned by it if you’re a big enough threat to its agenda. So you need to stop bargaining with the system when it’s fundamentally unjust.

 

And the optics people, the only thing that would be different in this situation is these optics people, because of their particular ideas of activism, they would just be a bit more sympathetic.

 

But people should stand for principles and ideas and for an actual fair legal system more than just perception and optics, in my opinion.

 

We really don’t need to total our legal system. What angers the government and the jewish lobby is that we have deeply felt political conviction and that we want to do whatever we can to further our political agenda while staying on the right side of the law. So we’re trying to stay within the legal framework while pushing forward our political agenda, what we deeply, deeply believe in. And that is what angers them the most. And it angers them so much that they don’t care about their own rules, they don’t care about their own judicial system, they don’t care about any of this.

 

Of course, the jewish lobby never really cared. It shows you that the people that profess to be liberal Democrats in this government and one of their claims for legitimacy, how little they care about it. They don’t care about their own rules, they don’t care about their own system anymore.

 

And it’s pretty obvious that these people have no respect for the system of government that our ancestors erected at the beginning of the last century. I might have a so-called “violent extremist” opinion here, but I don’t think we should total our legal system. The legal system and the principles underpinning the judicial system of yesteryear, it’s actually one of the things I do like about this country. And they accused me of hating Australia. You know, I don’t hate Australia. I don’t hate the nation, I don’t hate the continent.

 

I do certainly hate the Commonwealth, because a government that cooks up legislation like this is reprehensible!

 

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Henrik Palgren: And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for tuning in here. I’m Henrik. Glad to have you with us here on Red Ice today. If watching live on Rumble X Twitter, Red Ice TV, Red Ice members, however you’re tuning in, thank you for being here.

 

So, yes, we obviously are going to follow up on the topic we covered a little bit yesterday in terms of the shooting down at Bondi beach in Australia. We have Thomas Sewell back on the show today to cover this. Not only, of course, what’s happened with the shooting, the potential political fallout from this, but there’s other issues, of course, happening. It is interesting, though, because this has been called basically “an intelligence failure” by the Australian, you know, intelligence services, ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organization], I think it’s shortened. As and they’ve been observing obviously the National Socialists, all the Nationalists in Australia, they’re the ones kind of under scrutiny. They’re the ones being investigated, they’re the ones being followed around, arrested, all these things, right?

 

And then you have this blatant, kind of hole here. We will get into whether or not this is intentional. Did they drop the guard? What’s really happening? I have a lot of questions, as always. As you should, I think, which is healthy around these events and how it’s being used.

 

But it’s clear just on the official level, if you look at it, what they’re saying that this is. Obviously this is a massive failure then in the sense of not observing the actual terrorists in the country like this. Well, first of all, he was Pakistani. Then they’re coming back and saying now he was originally born in India, but who cares? What’s the difference? Right? So, Tom Sewell, welcome back. Good to see you again. How are you?

 

Thomas Sewell: Good, thanks. Thank you for having me on the show again. And yes, it’s been eventful as always. There’s plenty to talk about and very exciting times ahead. A lot of controversy. Did you want to start with Bondi first?

 

Henrik Palgren: I think. So why don’t we clear, well, it’s not just clearing it off the plate. It’s such a big thing. It’s really the main story we should lead with here, obviously. I’m not sure we have to reiterate it, but obviously, yes, we had a shooting on the 14th Australian time then. So it’s on the 14th, December 14th. And obviously, yeah, just explain what you, what your initial kind of, I guess, you know, way that you view this is not strange. We knew that this is like “part and parcel” now of being in a multicultural, multiracial country like Australia has been turned into against all of our desires. But still, were you surprised by this?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, absolutely not! And myself and most of the leadership of the organization have commented that we’re surprised that it doesn’t happen more often and that it took this long considering the rhetoric we’ve experienced from Muslims in Australia over the past couple years.

 

And I’m not just talking about rhetoric in terms of the Palestinian protests in the city every week. I’m talking about just everyday Muslims that you might come across on job sites or if you train at a commercial gym, whether it be a fighting gym, or a lifting gym. The rhetoric out of Muslims has been very extreme! Like we would call it Fed postie. We don’t get away with that kind of rhetoric.

 

But it’s just commonplace within the Muslim community to sort of talk about and advocate for this sort of stuff. So yeah. Where do you want to go with this? I can go into more detail.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, so we talked about it yesterday a little bit as well, obviously of the shooters and everything else. And first of all, do you trust what you’re hearing from the police and the mainstream government sources on this?

 

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Thomas Sewell: Well, I don’t. As a general rule, I don’t trust the police and the mainstream media. But this is something that’s too big to fool.

 

I mean, there were thousands, … I mean, there’s a lot of Americans sharing kind of schizophrenic conspiracy theories about it. There’s a few odd videos that I do admit there’s a few videos that look, the guy was probably just missing his shots. I don’t think he was shooting blanks. There’s a whole bunch of schizo theories out there. Most people don’t know how populated Bondi [pronounced bond-eye] beach is in Sydney, Australia.

 

So most Americans, they can’t fathom that this happened at the most populated place in Sydney, like almost more populated than the CBD. If you’ve ever been a Bondi beach, there are just potentially tens of thousands of people there are thousands and thousands of witnesses. Yeah, I really dislike the way that so many people on the dissonant right are trying to transmute this into some sort of conspiracy theory. Sometimes Muslims just kill people!

 

Henrik Palgren: So strange1 No!

 

Thomas Sewell: And in this case, they very obviously targeted a jewish event. A predominantly jewish. Well, not a predominantly jewish event. A jewish event that had maybe a couple hundred people attend. But again, it was at a beach where there’s tens of thousands of Aussies and tourists.

 

I mean, I’ve parked my car literally by that bridge. Like, when I’ve gone to Sydney, I’ve visited Bondi Beach, I don’t know every second time that I’ve gone to Sydney, so probably 20 or 30 times over my life. And I’ve parked my car at that very spot. I know exactly where that is. You know, where that big, surf house is, the big clubhouse there. You have lunch just on the other side of the road from that shooting.

 

So it was recognizable immediately. The reaction from the police was to be expected. It was typical. I mean, seeing the police just take so long to react, that’s pretty common in Australia. If you’re a White nationalist, they’ll pull the gun out on you like the millisecond. [chuckling] I think they rev themselves up when they come to your house. I think the police in Australia are a bit different to the police in America. They’re not sort of combat aware, they’re not psychologically trained to deal with these sort of scenarios.

 

Whereas I think in America the threat level of gun violence is so high, or at least they’re trained to expect a high level of gun violence. Whereas in Australia, the police don’t have any balls unless they’ve got like two hours to psychologically prepare for kicking your door in. Because every time I’ve had issues with police, you know, there’ll be 10 or 20 of them and they already have the guns out and they’re ready to shoot you while you’re trying to answer your door.

 

But when there’s an actual active shooter situation, I mean, they’re just hiding behind cars and you saw like two of the female police officers have mental breakdowns. It was just really embarrassing.

 

What else? I mean, yeah, my understanding was that, sorry, I’ll let you go. There’s so much to cover.

 

Henrik Palgren: So of course we had Arsen Ostrovsky coming out early. And of course this is one of the reasons why I had questions about it I mean, he literally came to Australia. He said in the clip here we could play it in a moment, but like three weeks ago to fight anti-semitism, and this was heightened. The whole jewish community has allegedly like, warned that this was going to happen. There was a number of posts from the Australian jewish Association. They were talking about this was very foreseeable and stuff like that. And of course I’m gonna say:

 

“Yeah, they’re probably right.”

 

Because they’re knowing what’s happening here. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: And it’s very foreseeable because you have an ongoing war between Zionists and I guess just jews in general and the Palestinians in the Middle East. And they’re killing, I don’t know, somewhere between 10 and 100 Arabs a day over in the Middle East. And the way most people’s brains work, and especially the way Arabs brains work is. Yeah, they don’t recognize borders, they don’t care. And these weren’t even Arabs, technically, this father and son team. I guess they were Arabs in the sense of what etymologically the word Arab means, which is mixed. They’re a mixed population. They’re a mongrel population.

 

But I believe these two were half Indian, half Italian.

 

Henrik Palgren: Really?

 

Thomas Sewell: And yes. Yeah. So the father is an Indian national and the son was born in Australia to an Indian father and I believe an Italian mother. So he’s mixed race, and he’s converted to Islam, which is what Islam is. It’s a mongrel rape gang. It’s where all the mongrels go and convert and join the big brown alliance gang together. And he received a little bit of training in the Philippines, so he probably went over to the Philippines to not just do military training, but also to probably get a blessing from ISIS, because there is an ISIS cell in the Philippines.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So that’s what the Intel is saying is that this guy was on a watch list from 2019 or 2020 that ASIO were keeping an eye on him because of obviously what he was posting on the Internet and the mosque that he was hanging out at. So he was actually a junior scholar at one of the more further down the line Sunni mosques here in Sydney. And he was not an imam or anything like that. Not highly trained, but he’s obviously gone through to religiously study Islam. He’s not just like a Friday Muslim that’s just casually gone down there. He has actually completed like his basic diplomas in understanding Islamic studies. And clearly he’s educated in Islam enough to know that if you want your 72 virgins, you got to go kill jews.

 

So he completed his education with that act. You could say if you understand Islam. And his father, I don’t know much about the father, but I do know that he’s an Indian national.

 

[10:39]

 

Henrik Palgren: The father was killed.

 

Thomas Sewell: The father was killed. The son just came out of the coma, just today. The news was saying just today he’s awoken from his coma.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay. Yeah, because you saw random other Aussies attacking the crew there on the bridge obviously too. And the police couldn’t, like, they didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t have any control of the situation. And guys were just moving in. They were even going after another random brown guy, … They were like these White Aussies, … [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: The footage I saw was that the first guy on the bridge to try to disarm them was a brown guy. And the one of the cops shot at him while he had his hands up.

 

Henrik Palgren: Wow!

 

Thomas Sewell: And then a whole bunch of Aussies jumped the bridge and tried to attack. Yeah, this is the footage here. So a bunch of Aussies are attacking because he’s wearing a black Tshirt.

 

So it’s like an Arab in a black Tshirt. And so people obviously thought that was the same guy, but he was actually the first to run up there to be a hero and then the next two Aussies that went up there to also be heroes. That’s one thing that’s interesting is you’ve got female cops literally hiding behind cars and having mental breakdowns. And you’ve got Baz here with his shirt off, two other Aussies and an Arab guy running up there hero style, unarmed to try to tackle these guys and disarm them.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And you’ve also got, I think earlier you had that old jewish, … Oh no, he wasn’t jewish, he was a Coptic Christian. I think old Coptic Christian guy, another Arab, attack him and take the shotgun off him, but not shoot him because apparently the shotgun was out of ammunition and then he ended up getting shot I think in the arm.

 

So it’s a chaotic situation obviously. There’s nothing suspicious about it in my opinion. I think that we should really focus on the principle that we need to be a sovereign country here in Australia. And this incident is caused by the fact that we have warring tribes in our nation! And the fault of this is the government for allowing the jews and allowing Muslims into our country when they have no place! They have no place in our country. And it doesn’t matter whether one is the victim and one is the attacker. This is caused by inter-ethnic or inter-religious conflict overseas and these problems are here. And I would have the same opinion if it was any group of people. But I especially have this opinion when it’s non-White people, when it’s brown people or desert people that are killing each other. We just don’t want these dramas here.

 

And this is the result of not just multiculturalism, but it’s also, yeah, the result of having a very powerful jewish lobby in this country. I mean this jewish event, these weren’t nobody jews. These were actual serious Zionists, they were serious jewish leaders.

 

And I think it’s a very fair assumption to make based off the full 10 minute footage that I’ve seen that these two went down there, these two Indian Muslims went down there with the intention to kill as many jews as possible. And I think that they also wounded about 40 other people.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, right.

 

Thomas Sewell: And we don’t have the full list of names of all the people killed and wounded, although at least half of the names of those killed have been released already. And they appear, I think 11 out of the 12 that we have the names of do appear to be jewish. There’s one name there that appears to be potentially, … Is that one is that, …

 

Henrik Palgren: That guy, Peter Meagher. He was there as a freelance photographer to actually shoot some photos for the Hanukkah party, I believe. But that’s one White guy.

 

I was looking at the bridge, and you can see. I mean, again, I don’t know what the like, how big was the field that the jews were in at the Hanukkah event there. But he fires this way, this way, that way. It looked like he was just shooting, like, everywhere on the beach that he basically could. That’s what it looked like to me. So first I was just kind of like:

 

“Was it a coincidence?”

 

You know, because that could happen. But I don’t know. Maybe it was publicly announced or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: It was a publicly announced event.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: By one of the, I think it’s a Chabad. I don’t know if I’m pronouncing it right.

 

Henrik Palgren: Chabad. All in there.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. It was a publicly announced event, and it’s very obvious. Again, I don’t have any more information than the media have already put out, but I think based on the Facebook posts of this, I mean, one of the jews that was killed was a pretty serious rabbi that had just gone back from Israel, and he was signing munitions over in Israel.

 

[15:32]

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, look, it was an international event. There were jews from France there, there was at least a couple from Israel, I think, and, of course, Arsen Ostrovsky was one of them. And, it’s a different mindset. Right. Like, if I’d be in a situation like this. I’d be like. I wouldn’t take a selfie at that point. I wouldn’t kind of push so hard politically.

 

But then you realize that’s how motivated these people are, that if these pieces lined up the way that they did and he just happens to be there, what is it? A human rights lawyer out of Israel or whatever to fight anti-semitism in Australia, he happens to find themselves there again, you can have questions about it, I think, but you don’t have to go into conspiracy.

 

But the point is, this is how they’re thinking. That’s what I want to say, Tom. If this happens, it’s immediately use it!:

 

“Like, second one, boom! Let’s go! Propaganda, push our issues!”

 

That’s what happens.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, look, I got a few things to say on that.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: When Carl Rittenhouse shot into a group of Antifa. When he was getting attacked, he took out two pedophiles.

 

So when you, not randomly, but when you’re getting attacked by Antifa, and if you take down two of them, there’s a strong chance that they’re a pedophile, that they’re a sex offender. And I don’t think it’s suspicious that two Muslims planned a terror attack to kill a bunch of jews. And it happened to be, out of the couple hundred jews that were there, there happened to be human rights lawyers and like, huge Zionist advocates. And I think you’d find it in a crowd of two or three hundred jews, especially, … And these weren’t secular jews. That’s an important point, is this wasn’t a secular jewish meeting. This wasn’t like:

 

“Hey, jews, come to the park and hang out!”

 

These were jews from the local synagogue in Bondi. And Bondi is a relatively jewish area. So it’s a touristy area, and it has a huge amount of rich White people that live there, but there’s also quite a large jewish population there. There’s, like a jewish enclave there, a wealthy jewish enclave there.

 

So there are some synagogues in Bondi, and this was one of the local synagogues that organized this. And they’re like:

 

“Yep, let’s do our thing down at the beach.”

 

So, yeah, there’s really nothing suspicious about this except there’s one video of the old man missing, like, three or four shots. And I mean, I don’t think that’s overly suspicious. I mean, it’s at close range, but, I mean, adrenaline, who knows?

 

Henrik Palgren: Right? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I haven’t seen anything other than that one video of him missing three shots. Like what? Yeah, it’s not Call of Duty. There’s just a lot of firearms experts on the Internet. There’s a lot of people that are just really quick to call:

 

“Oh, it’s Mossad! It’s Mossad! It’s Mossad!”

 

And it’s like, no, sometimes Muslims just kill people. And we have a really bad, you know, sort of subculture, I think, within the broader spectrum of White nationalism and dissident politics, where:

 

“Everything’s a conspiracy! And everything is like Mossad’s behind everything! There’s Mossad in your skirting board listening to you!”

 

And it’s like, this is just paranoia. Sometimes it’s just an actual terrorist attack. Now, if I’m presented with evidence that there was a Mossad connection, but all I’ve seen is AI, fake edits. Yeah, just Photoshop. I’ve just seen garbage! I’ve just seen the most low rent garbage! Psyop! You know, the real psyop is people thinking everything’s Mossad. I think that’s the real Mossad psyop.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, interesting point. Yeah. No, I’m not the one who immediately that’s, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Did you see Baz? That’s what put him in the coma.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I figured. Right. Because I’m not sure if the other guy there, he, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry. No, no, that’s the wrong one. No, no, sorry. It was a different head stomp. There was a different guy that kicked. So Baz kicked the father, old man in the head, but another younger guy, a fitter younger guy with tattoos, kicked the other one in the head.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So before this footage.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, so okay, so moving on from whether:

 

“This was it a planned event! They knew it was going to happen. They knew the worst cops that day was, … They were running the shift then, these females. Because then you have mass impact.”

 

Okay, putting that to the side for now. It is what it is. We’re just looking at it for what it is. It’s then you come back to the official, you know, world in terms of the failure of the police, of the intelligence services. And the point of priority too, right? Because there is a kind of a, there’s blame here.

 

Like as much resources and effort and time and ultimately then money and manpower is being spent on you and on your group and people around you. Joel [Davis] and [Jacob] Hersant, all these people around there to monitor you and to arrest you and keep an eye on you and spy on you go to the park to box and then there they are. They have men assigned to just watching you guys. Right? That kind of stuff.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Is this gonna force them to get their act together? Are they going to start taking the Muslim issues seriously? Is it going to be enough pressure from the jewish community that then that’s when they listen, right? When jews are murdered now they’re going to actually do something about this. What do you think they’re going to happen here, the next stage in this?

 

[21:01]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: In theory, you’re correct. In theory, when jews are affected, then you’ll see genuine pressure against Muslims. But what you’ll find is the jews are experts at transmuting any anti-Islamic energy into just being energy around anti-semitism in general. And you can already see the Labor Party for those that aren’t aware in America, the Labor Party here in Australia is kind of like our version of the Democrat Party. It’s the center-Left, so-called center-Left party. And you’ve got Tony Burke who’s the sort of, he heads the State Department. I think he’s the Home Affairs Minister. You’ve got the Prime Minister Albanese and you’ve got another guy who I’ve never seen on TV before, which is funny, they keep him hidden from TV. I think he’s the Defense Minister. His name is I think Murphy, and he is the gayest I have ever seen on Australian television. No, not Murphy. Marles. His name is Marles.*

 

[*The minister for defence is the minister of state of the Commonwealth of Australia charged with overseeing the organization, implementation, and formulation of strategic policy in defence and military matters as the head of the Department of Defence. The minister for defence is responsible for the Australian Defence Organization, including the Australian Defence Force (ADF). The current defence minister is Richard Marles, who is also concurrently serving as deputy prime minister of Australia, having been selected by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in May 2022 following the 2022 Australian federal election.]

 

And all three of them senior Labor Party guys, they are just getting roasted at the moment for their failure. And they are basically trying to transmute and put the blame back onto Nazis saying:

 

“Well, our government has done the most to shut down hate speech. Our government has done the most to stop anti-semitism. Our government banned the Nazi salute. Our government has been going after these neo-Nazis!”

 

And on several occasions journalists have cut them off and have said:

 

“Hang on a minute, what are you going to do about these Muslims?”

 

Because obviously even though the media are very controlled in their nature, it’s really hard for the media to hold the party line together that the Labor Party are trying to hold together, which is “that this is a broad stroke anti-semitism issue” and then transmute it from broad smoke, broad stroke anti-semitism onto:

 

“Look how much we’ve done to stop Nazis!”

 

And the mainstream media even covered the deportation of Matthew Gruter after [before] this terrorist attack. So those that don’t know who Matthew Gruter is, he’s a member of our organization. He was a South African national that was here on a work Visa who attended an “expose jewish power” rally. I think it was “Abolish the jewish Lobby” rally. And he was doxed and deported. He was raided within, I think a day or two of him being doxed and he was put in a camp and then deported from that camp.

 

And so look, there’s nothing, the Australian government’s got no issues with putting people in camps and deporting them, which is interesting. And the media even mentioned:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this guy didn’t break any law and he was deported.”

 

And yet this son and this father were both, … Yeah, you’ve got the old video there.

 

So there’s a new video where they actually started talking about him in reference to the fact that these two terrorists had traveled in and out of the country on several occasions to potentially receive military training.

 

And so you have people that are on a watch list for being involved with the Islamic State and training with the Islamic State and they own firearms. That’s another important point.

 

So this is Tony Burke. This is one of the faggots that personally had Matthew Gruter deported. He’s going to be deported to the Congo. We’re going to make sure that this faggot here, Tony Burke, is deported to the Congo. And that’s Penny Wong, the Chinese foreign minister.

 

Henrik Palgren: What could go wrong! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: But, yeah, Wong! Yeah. A former Australian Prime Minister:

 

“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”

 

Like back in the 50s or 60s, I think it was Harold Holt, or whoever came after him said:

 

“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”

 

Back then we were based and someone tried to bring their Asian war bride over from the Korean War and they denied access to the war bride or maybe they snuck her into the country. And then they were basically trying. They were trying to deport like, the one brown person that had been let into [chuckling] the country that year! And yeah, the prime minister said something like “two Wongs don’t make a White” when the media asked him why he was being deported. And even though technically be one Wong.

 

But anyway, yeah, so where was I going? I mean, it’s just they’re trying to obviously transmute this atrocity or this terrorist attack into being another battering ram against White Australia, against Neo-Nazis, against anti-semitism in general. What can they do? I don’t think they can do much except hot air. They’re not going to be able to change the laws in any way that’s going to be able to stop us from operating.

 

The way that the Labour Party has reacted to this has caused a huge amount of mainstream media condemnation. I mean, the mainstream media even played on national television, these Labor Party MPs, both state and federal MPs, rocking up to press conferences and getting booed by the public and getting booed by the jewish community.

 

So that’s very rare! They don’t usually show that on television. So the Labor Party is definitely just getting smashed at the moment.

 

But again, it’s that usual trick of “jew Left and jew Right”. And what they’re doing is they’re now really promoting the Liberal Party as being the only party that’s going to save the jews, and the Labor Party doesn’t have the balls to save the jews. And there’s a lot of layers to that.

 

So for example, the reason why these senior Labor Party like the Prime Minister, the Defense Minister and the Home affairs minister, the reason why they won’t call out the Muslims and why they’re trying to deflect it onto neo-Nazis is because the Labor Party can’t get elected into office without the Muslim vote and without the Indian vote. And these two were both Muslim and Indian!

 

[27:00]

 

So they don’t want to talk about the fact that he was an Indian national and he should have been deported. Obviously we shouldn’t have any Indians in the country. But even by their own metrics and by their own standards of fit and proper person checks, which is another important thing to bring up, is that it is quite hard to get a gun license in Australia if you’re a political dissident. It is not hard to get a gun license. The way that Australian gun laws work. Because I know Americans love saying:

 

“You guys gave up your guns. You, Australia doesn’t have any guns!”

 

That’s not true at all! And that’s just like what we don’t have is civilian access to military style firearms like semi-autos. Yeah, we don’t have access to semi-autos unless there’s a caveat to that, which is unless you’re what’s called a primary producer, or a professional hunter.

 

So if you have a contract, even if it’s just as low as like, I don’t know, $5,000 a year to contract shoot on people’s property, to shoot pests. Even if those pests are like foxes or something, or rabbits. You can get access to an AR15 in this country.

 

So it’s not true that we don’t have guns in this country. We have quite high gun ownership as a nation. And to get a CatAB which is basically rim fires and center fires, but in bolt action or pump. So we can get pump and bolt action. Like the rifle that this terrorist was using is called a Cat B rifle.

 

So what that means is it’s a bolt action rifle, it’s center fired, high powered and there’s not even a magazine capacity on it. Usually when you buy the rifles they come with a five or ten round magazine. It’s not actually illegal to own larger magazines. It doesn’t look good when the police come to inspect your safe. Which again, if you’re not a political dissident. It will very rarely happen. Most licensed firearm owners might only get a safe inspection once every five or 10 years. And it’ll just be two local cops. They’ll knock on your door, they’ll usually call you 24 hours beforehand and they’ll say

 

“Hi, I’m Sergeant so and so from the local police station, I need to come check your guns. I’ll be there tomorrow at nine o’ clock in the morning.”

 

And then you obviously make sure you’ve got all your shit squared away. They rock up to your house, they knock on your door, you let the two cops in, they have a look at your safe, they talk to you about what the weather’s doing and you know, how the Labor Party’s gay and try to be a friend and then they leave. And that’s basically what the local firearm section of the cops do. Because they know that every gun owner is all the vast, vast majority of gun owners are Right-wing and they’re just patriots, but they don’t have any views outside of just very common sense, low level patriotism and gun ownership or libertarianism. And there’s really very little dramas there.

 

So you can get that rifle that he’s shooting there, you can get that by just going down to the police station, filling out some paperwork, doing a one day course on firearm safety and then applying to become a member of any gun club or getting a Crown hunting permit. So a permit to hunt on Crown land.

 

Henrik Palgren: Do you have to be a member of a gun club?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. Same as Sweden, basically.

 

Thomas Sewell: You can’t own a rifle in Australia for the purpose of self defense.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: You have to either you either own it because you target shoot at a gun club or you own it because you go hunting on Crown land. And all you need to do is, I think to hunt on Crown land, I think you pay 50 bucks a year or something. I used to be a licensed and registered gun owner. Obviously when I got involved in dissident politics I sold my guns and transferred them into other people’s names, just so that I didn’t have any ownership of guns. Because I could predict that they would use that as an opportunity to raid my house. And I’d heard of people that were involved in dissident politics, they went from never having a gun safe inspection to having like multiple gun safe inspections per year. And it was never just the two local cops. There would be two local cops that would come down and they’d have a weird look on their face like:

 

“Oh, hi!”

 

And they would rock up unannounced. That was another thing. Whereas normally they would always call you. And they would have six guys in suits, you know, rock up with them.

 

And it’s like:

 

“Oh, who are these people? What?”

 

And they’re just like:

 

“Oh, we’re just here for the gun inspection. Oh, what police station are you from? Oh, we’re from the city. Oh, what are you doing here? Oh, we’re just having a look.”

 

And then they’re not looking at your guns, what they’re doing. The two cops are looking at your guns, making sure that it’s all stored properly.

 

The other six cops are walking through your house, going through your drawers because they’re the STASI* and they’re going through your bookshelf, they’re going through your drawers, they’re going through your cupboards. And until you tell them to stop and get out of your house, they’ll go through everything. They might even ask if they can go through your phone.

 

[* Stasi: Official state security service of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) The Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, was the state security service and secret police of East Germany from 1950 to 1990. The function of the Stasi in East Germany resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union, ⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Wikipedia]

 

And if you’re an idiot, you’d be like:

 

“Oh, okay.”

 

So there’s a lot of naive people that get screwed over.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: But yeah, I’ve never seen anyone that’s a face doxed nationalist be allowed to keep their guns.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

[31:57]

 

Thomas Sewell: So that’s when we talk about system failure, the government does not let face doxed nationalists own guns, no matter how tame you make your talking points.

 

And yet these guys they can get up to what they’re up to and at no stage do they, because the law is very subjective. We don’t have the right to own guns. What we have is what’s called a “fit and proper person” check, which is completely subjective. There’s no legal definition of that. There isn’t. I actually went to the Magistrates Court to prove I was a fit and proper person because they try to take my, … I used to be trained to be an Armor Guard. I never actually did Armor Guard work, I did unarmed security work, but I was trained to be an Armor Guard, so I could have bought a pistol if I wanted to because I was trained to be an Armor Guard and I had an a pistol license, even though I never owned a pistol and I had issues. I did a pistol shoot one time and the police called me and said:

 

“Hey, you’re not allowed to do a pistol shoot, you’re not fitting proper.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yes, I am. I have a gun license.”

 

Even though I handed my guns in and stuff. I still had my gun license. And they said:

 

“Hey, you got to go to the Magistrates Court and sort this out immediately or you’re going to get charged.”

 

And so I went down the Magistrates Court and did like, it was called like a section 109, fit and proper person thingy. And the Magistrates Court confirmed that I was in fact fit and proper. And I was like, “phew”, you know what I mean? Like, kind of wiped my brow. This is really early days when I was really early involved in politics.

 

But it was a big stress, like I was going to potentially, and I had a clean criminal record back then, so I was really stressed about having a firearms offense. But I had the court confirm I was fit and proper. And yeah, these guys should not have been able to be classed as fit and proper.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Well, that’s the thing. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Completely subjective.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, obviously. Right. Unfortunately, that’s just those other conditions now with these people in charge of the governments.

 

“Bondi terrorists given gun license after ASIO investigated son’s, …”

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry to interrupt. It’s pronounced ‘Ay Zee Oh’.

 

Henrik Palgren: ASIO investigated son’s Islamic State links.

 

Thomas Sewell: So again, here’s another interesting thing to interrupt. Sorry.

 

But when the labor government came to power. Sorry, when they were re-elected, they. When they did all their like, banning of the Nazi salute stuff. Banned the Nazi salute, they banned the swastika, but in the same legislation they actually decriminalized the ISIS flag.

 

Henrik Palgren: Really?

 

Thomas Sewell: So the Liberal Party made the ISIS flag a terror symbol and they made it illegal. And the Labor Party changed the legislation when they came to power and banned the swastika and then decriminalized the ISIS flag. So you can own an ISIS flag in Australia, but you can’t, … Sorry. You can publicly display an ISIS flag in Australia, but you cannot publicly display a swastika.

 

Henrik Palgren: Huh, Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So that’s pretty funny. They didn’t need to do that. Like this ISIS flag was already banned and they didn’t need to touch that legislation. Why did they decriminalize it?

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, it’s a feature maybe not a bug. So I don’t know!

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a huge Muslim voting bloc in Australia and, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Obviously you’ve got an understanding of European politics like Nordic politics. But most Americans in the dissident Right, I think they’re really blind to the Islamic issue.

 

I mean, I noticed after the Aug 31st rally which was that big March for Australia rally where I spoke in front of, I don’t know, somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 people. You know, is it from the TRS? Is that what they’re called? The Right Stuff? Eric Striker.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: I saw Eric Striker, … Well, I was in jail, so someone mailed it to me. But while I was in jail, I got mail. And it was a screenshot of like an Eric Striker tweet saying that:

 

“I’m like a judeophile and that I love jews and that you know, I’m against Muslims because I love jews.”

 

And just crazy shit! Like, I’ve been an anti-semite, a public anti-semite for probably six or so years.

 

Henrik Palgren: You’re a proven anti-semite! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: I am [chuckling] a proven anti-semite and everything. But he was dissecting that part of my speech where I said:

 

“When the people waving the Palestinian flags and the Aboriginal flags came charging at us, we fought back.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I haven’t had a chance to clarify that on stream. That actually happened. I haven’t done a response to that, but I want people to know that actually happened.

 

And this idea that we should not fight back against Palestinians when they’re punching us in the head or communists waving Palestinian flags so that we can one struggle with them against the Zionists, that’s fucking crazy! We’re in Australia. I’m not in the Middle East. Like, I’m not picking a side on the Middle East in the Middle East. I’m picking Australia, in Australia.

 

So to be fair to the Palestinians, to be fair to the Palestinians and the Arabs to give some context to that, usually they rally every weekend in Australia, in Melbourne, in Sydney and Brisbane, there’s a big rally of Arabs every single weekend in the CBD. And it’s usually 3/4 or 7/8 Muslim, you know, Arabs and 1/4 or 1/8 communists that are trying to subvert it and control them. And what they’ve done is they’ve created a brown alliance where they’re waving Abo flags and they’re waving Palestinian flags because they’re trying to convert the Muslims to being on the side of the communists for the Aboriginal issue.

 

[37:46]

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So:

 

“We’re not anti-zionists. We’re anti-colonialists! And the Zionists are a problem because they’re colonialists. It’s not because they’re Zionists. It’s because they’re colonialists. And because they’re jewish nationalists.”

 

Which I guess is what zionism is.

 

But it’s not a specific form of anti-semitism. They’re trying to, instead of it being counter jewish or counter anti-semitism, the communist groups are trying to convert all these Arabs to the cause. Now they’ve been very unsuccessful broadly, but they have converted a small percentage.

 

And so on that day, on August 31st, the vast majority of Arabs didn’t show up. The vast majority. So normally that weekend rally, that pro-Palestine rally, is normally, as I said, 7/8 Arab, 1/8th communist. On that day it was almost the other way around. It was probably 3/4 communist, 1/4 Arab. So the vast, vast majority of Arabs. And we had leaks because we’ve got people in their group chats to keep an eye on. We had leaks from their group chats saying:

 

“We ’re not going down, this is the reason why we’re not going down, don’t attend, we’re just going to have a week off. We still care about the cause, obviously, but it’s not a good idea. We don’t want a front on confrontation with March for Australia because it doesn’t achieve what we want to achieve, which is we want Australians having sympathy for Palestine. And so if we let the March for Australia people rally this weekend and wave the Aussie flags, we should stay the hell away from them so that it doesn’t interfere with our kind of our optics.”

 

They were optics cucking. They were like:

 

“We’re not going to rally this week.”

 

And so the vast, vast majority of Arabs did not come down. They didn’t want that confrontation. But some still came down.

 

And so it’s just crazy, like, yes, and it’s similar to this Bondi incident. So the context of the Bondi incident is, did he wave away most Arabs and most White Australians? You can see in that 10 minute footage the two terrorists on several occasions wave away, the young guy at least, waved away heaps of Aussies and Arabs that were swearing at him, that were carrying on, that were getting close to them. There was a lot of people, a lot of Aussies that were coming up from the other side, not from the beach, but from the other side that were saying like:

 

“What are you doing? Stop what you’re doing!”

 

Like that kind of rhetoric. And there was a bunch of women screaming like:

 

“Oh my God, stop!”

 

Like that’s gonna help! And he was just, you could see him, he’s like waving him away. He’s like:

 

“Piss off! Go away!”

 

And a lot of the guys like having a go at him had beards, whether they were Aussies or whether they’re Arabs. So obviously he wasn’t going to shoot anyone that was like Arab looking with a beard. So he did pick his target, that’s very clear. But that doesn’t mean that White Australians weren’t shot on the day.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So again, again, I’m getting ankle bit by individuals who are saying:

 

“Oh, he put out a post about White Australians, but this was an attack on jews.”

 

And it’s like, I’m aware that it was predominantly an attack on jews and the media have been talking non-stop about jews since it happened and our responsibility is White Australians. I don’t have a responsibility for jews, I have a responsibility for White Australians.

 

So I think it’s very important that we try to retake some of that narrative because the politicians have said nothing about how this is an attack on Australians, let alone White Australians.

 

Obviously the politicians aren’t going to say this is an attack on White Australians.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: But I mean, I saw one of the opposition leaders come out with a post just today and, sorry, it was a video, and he said:

 

“This terrorist attack is an attack on the jewish community. And although it’s disrespectful to Australians this is the primary issue is that it’s an attack on the jewish community and it’s about hatred and we have to stop hatred of jews.”

 

And it’s like, hang on a minute. Disrespectful to Australians? Like there’s a little bit more than disrespectful to Australians! Yeah, I mean the idea that shooting at Australians is:

 

“It’s disrespectful, but it’s not driven by hate of Australia and Australia’s values. It’s driven by hatred of jews!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. So the call that you’ve seen then is obviously, yes, the jewish community seems to be mobilizing around, targeting Albanese and the Labor government, obviously that they want them out. I think I even heard, is it Sharri Markson* on Sky News, the jewish host there? She was talking about how Albanese had, I forget exactly what the word is. I’m paraphrasing, but it’s like “have emboldened or aided Hamas” or something in Australia. Is there any truth to that? Or is it like, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, yeah, give me your take on that.

 

* Sharri Markson (born 8 March 1984) is a Jewish Australian journalist and author. She is investigations editor at The Australian and host of the Sky News Australia program Sharri, which airs 8-9 PM Monday to Thursday. She is the winner of numerous awards in journalism, including two Walkley Awards.]

 

[42:32]

 

Thomas Sewell: The Right-wing jews in Australia are very connected obviously with the Liberal Party. And the Liberal Party has never been doing worse in the history of its existence in the Australian political spectrum.

 

So what’s happening in Australia in the last four or five years is the Liberal Party has gone from a serious contender at winning the 51% of the, not the primary vote, but the total vote. When you get all the preferencing schemes or the minor parties or the satellite parties all funnel all their votes into the Liberal Party so they can win the 51%. They went from a serious contender to that, to basically total party death. I mean the Liberal Party is on its way to becoming no longer being one of the big two. And Australian politics is fracturing on the Right.

 

And so the jews, the Zionist jews especially, are absolutely petrified that they’re losing that conservative Right, You know, the control, what’s it called? The gatekeeper. They’re losing their gate-keeping party. The “Containment Right”, sorry is the word I’m looking for. They’re losing control of the Containment Right.

 

And so the jews are shifting between One Nation which is the slightly more Right-wing party, led by a redhead lady called Pauline Hanson, who was fish and chip shop lady that said racist things about Asians and now she’s like the biggest judeophile in the country.

 

And so they’re shifting support towards One Nation and the Right-wing faction within the Liberal Party. And there is truth to the fact that the Labor Party has aided and abetted Hamas in the sense that the Labor Party gains a lot of its vote from the Muslim blocs and does everything it can to not upset the Muslims. And when this war in Palestine was going on, the Labor Party was in a very difficult situation because a lot of the people that make up the Labor Party are, … And also their main alliance, which is with the Greens, which is a very Left-wing party that’s very pro-Palestine. The Labor Party are caught between a rock and a hard place where they’re really pro-jewish but they kind of have to be anti-Israel. Similar to like the Jeremy Corbyns, …

 

Henrik Palgren: I was gonna say, it’s like UK. Even Sweden has that dynamic too with the Social Democrats. They’re extremely in with the Muslim faction and trying to bring them aboard and they’re kind of infiltrating the party and they are actually taking more power.

 

And so the kind of conservative opposition is therefore kind of forced to take an even more pro-stance. Even the Sweden, Democrats were like led into the fold of like being unofficial ties with Israel. They went to a trip over there recently and they were of course so happy about it. But just to reiterate that point. You are right that there’s a lot of people in America that don’t understand the Muslim dynamic, that they just think that Muslims are simply, … Has it been used like that? Of course! I mean, even opening the borders partially to Muslims. Right. Have been kind of a geostrategic demographic plan, if you will, right from the War on Terror with the neocons, which displaced a lot of these people. They used that as the excuse and now we have to let in Muslims.

 

So there’s a sure, there’s a functionality in that. Not every one, obviously, but some doesn’t seem to understand just how big of a problem that that is and that the Muslim organized community actually is. And they just think them as pawns of Mossad and Israeli interests essentially. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: And also the dynamic in Australia is very different to America. So in America you have predominantly a Mexican and an African problem.

 

And so you have whole suburbs taken over by Mexicans or you have whole suburbs taken over by Africans. We don’t have that in Australia. There’s no suburb in Australia that’s taken over by Mexicans and there’s very few suburbs, like there’s probably only two or three suburbs in Melbourne and maybe one or two suburbs in Sydney that are taken over by Africans. But what we do have is we have entire regions of our cities, like we’re talking 3, 4, 5, 6 suburbs at a time, taken over by Arabs. And we have huge Islamic, you know, voting blocks. We have huge Islamic organizations. The Muslims are very organized. Like I used to work in the northern suburbs just as a casual worker when I was doing the residential care. And there was a resi home in the northern suburbs and I was looking after some drug addict teenagers, and you know, taking them to play footy and stuff like that. And they were the only White kids in the whole area.

 

I mean, there was three mosques in that suburb. And I’m telling you there was probably 5,000 Muslims per mosque, all fighting age men, all fit, all healthy. It was an army. There was probably, there was like more than a division, more than a division, like a World War II size division, like probably 15,000 fighting Muslims in that one suburb.

 

And I mean, we’re talking about guys aged between 18 and 40 you know, on the steroids train at the kickboxing gym. You know, I mean, like when you talk about “tribe and train”, they were organized on another level! And so and they’re political, they’re religious, they’re not low IQ niggers running around shooting each other with guns. They’re much more intelligent. They’re probably like averaging a 95 IQ, which is in that zone where they can organize effectively in very large numbers. The Africans can’t do that. So, if there’s societal collapse, if there’s a breakdown, you’ve got potentially tens of thousands of Muslim fighters as a fifth column in your country, that’s a way bigger threat than just like the chaos and anarchy of a hundred thousand Africans just in this city.

 

So I think some Americans probably do understand it. They might live in particular areas and they might be observing what happens in Europe and our situation is closer to Europe than it is to America’s.

 

[48:41]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Right, exactly, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. With the added factor of the Chinese and the Indians. So yeah, they’re obviously less militant, but they’re equally as organized at an economic level.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, exactly! It’s a major problem. And they’re kind of there’s this alliance, as you said, between the, usually the Labor government, the Left-wing governments and the Muslim faction kind of thing.

 

So I’m very familiar with it now that’s played out in Sweden. It’s very detrimental and yeah, so basically it’s a multi-pronged attack. It’s Chinese, it’s Indians, it’s Muslims, it’s jews. It’s like everyone!

 

Thomas Sewell: Social cohesion. It’s social cohesion.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s what the so the government. I’ve never heard this word used so much in the last six months. It’s like they got the patch, like they got the software patch, they got the software update. Every media station, every politician on all sides, Liberal, Labor, all they talk about now is “social cohesion”. Every press conference, “social cohesion”.

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: Every arrest, social cohesion! Every law change they’re trying to make:

 

“We got to improve social cohesion!”

 

And you know when ASIO gets up on the TV, like Mike Burgess, when he gets up on the press releases:

 

“Social cohesion! Social cohesion! Social cohesion!”

 

It is the running meme of 2025 here in Australia is the government will not stop talking about social cohesion, which really is about public trust in the institutions, public trust in the government and the fact that we’re in a multipolar society, that guns or no guns, people are breaking away from each other and everyone is getting way more racist.

 

All people, all Whites, Indians, Muslims, Chinese people, we’re going into that mode where boundaries between suburbs are becoming more clear and White flight is becoming far more obvious. And, yeah, people are starting to stick to their own areas more, which in America you’ve probably had for a really long time. You’ve had probably that breakdown in social cohesion.

 

But here in Australia, we had this, like crazy salt and pepper multiculturalism where every suburb just had a light Dusting of high IQ, non-White people that we just stole from the Third World. But now we’ve got all the foot soldiers here. So now the social cohesion’s properly broken down now.

 

Henrik Palgren: Do you think they intend to actually use it in the way we use it, or did we have to integrate them, then better? Is that the kind of the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: No, they’re not even bothering with that’s the brilliant part of it. Their strategy is so ineffective, they’re not even bothering to talk about assimilation anymore. They gave up on assimilation about five years ago. I haven’t really heard that word used by any of the parties, except maybe One Nation. They’re probably the only one still trying to die on the hill of assimilation, which is good. I’m glad that there’s a controlled opposition in that area so that they can die on the hill of assimilation, because it won’t work.

 

Henrik Palgren: And that’s Pauline Hanson.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s Pauline Hanson.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So she’s gone from a pretty explicitly White nationalist position where it’s like her maiden speech, she said:

 

“Australia is being threatened by being flooded with Asians!”

 

And the whole mainstream media just mocked her. They didn’t argue against it. They just mocked her and said:

 

“That that’s insane! That’s ridiculous!”

 

And this is in 1996. And she was right. And now that she’s right, instead of doubling down on her position that Australia’s now flooded with Asians, she’s now got Asians and Indians in her party. And she’s saying:

 

“Oh, but these are assimilated. They’re assimilated Asians!”

 

And so she’s gone like, she’s doubling down on Civnattery and the assimilation method.

 

Whereas the Liberal Party and Labor Party. The Liberal Party has two factions. It has the Right-wing and Left-wing in it. So it’s meant to be a Right-wing party, but it’s actually been taken over by Left-wingers.

 

And I’m not just talking about the Overton Window shifting. It actually has had a coup, like an internal coup. And basically the Right-wing faction was more aligned with that One Nation rhetoric. Like they want to maintain the assimilation lie, whereas the Left-wing faction:

 

“No, that’s racist! You can’t say ‘assimilation’ because that implies that our culture is better than theirs. So they shouldn’t be assimilating into our culture.”

 

So that’s fucking awesome! That’s great news. I don’t want these people assimilating or attempting to assimilate.

 

Henrik Palgren: No.

 

Thomas Sewell: And the ones that have attempted are being outnumbered now by the ones that don’t even give a fuck and don’t have any respect for our culture and society. And so, yeah, social cohesion is at an all time low.

 

Yeah, that’s basically the situation in Australian politics. And now they’re calling for deportations, but they’re doing it in a very soft way. They basically want to try to just more of the same. They want to deport and block anti-semites coming in the country. And the rhetoric is not really around like anything like Donald Trump where he’s talking about people from shithole countries. That rhetoric is not on the menu here in Australia.

 

[53:42]

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Yep. Nope. Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Pauline Hanson’s broached it a little bit, but nowhere at the same level.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So basically the Right-wing in the United States or Donald Trump, like the MAGA camp is more Right-wing than the party that’s broken away from. Not to sound too complicated, [chuckling] but like One Nation has basically tripled in size in the last couple of years because the Liberal Party, after there was a Left-wing coup in it, is just in shambles.

 

And so I guess this leads into the next point which is about building up our party and the kind of support that we’re seeing.

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly! No, I want to get into that. And guys, I’ll get to some of your chats and questions for Tom here too in a moment. I appreciate the support there too. We’ll get to that.

 

Just quick, regarding the gun there’s a couple of things in terms of the fallout here. I think you have the next election in 2028 and again, I’m not staring myself too blind on this, but it’s just an interesting dynamic in terms of like will the current government been able to push through then a couple of things when it comes to additional gun laws or maybe then restricting these, even these hunting license, you know, hunting licenses that they’re handing out right now! And what do you think will happen in regards to the hate this was one headline from GB News here:

 

“Racial Hatred laws must be tightened in the wake of Bondi beach massacre!”

 

So are these the two main things that the Labor Party will deal with, do you think?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. So Jack Eltis, the state leader [of NSN] for New South Wales, put out a very good post recently where he basically explained that it’s sad that the government is going to take away more rights of freedoms or privileges of the Australian population, but it’s ultimately a net positive in the sense that Australians do need to get shocked into reality. They need to wake up from their slumber and realize that no matter what happens, good, bad, indifferent, the result it’s going to be mutated into taking away their rights. That there’s never going to be a solution to deporting all these Muslims. There’s never going to be a solution to stopping the level of crime. Any law that’s passed is just going to affect you. And that these laws are constantly just, yeah, mutated to affect White Australians when White Australians are not the cause of the problem.

 

So I know a lot about gun laws in Australia because I used to be really interested in it as a subject prior to really dedicating myself to White nationalism. Really there’s not much they can do, there’s not much the government can do except hot air. What they will do if they want some sort of nominal victory is they will ban all the niche firearms that aren’t bolt action.

 

So at the moment in Australia we’ve got a whole bunch of firearms that kind of circumvent the law in the sense that they aren’t actually bolt action rifles, but you can get them on a Cat B license, which anyone can get if you join a hunting club, which is what this young Arab, this young half Indian Muslim dude did. He just joined, I think the Zavasta Hunting Club, which is like Serbian hunting club. It’s just connected to the Serbian community. Not that they’ve got any implication in this. That must have been his local hunting club. He joined that club, therefore he gets access to a Cat B.

 

But he didn’t use a strictly bolt action rifle in the attack. He used a straight, what’s called a “straight pull”, which, Beretta make one, I think Ticker makes one. There’s a whole bunch of gun companies that make niche rifles, but they’re always very expensive. A bolt action rifle in Australia would cost somewhere between six hundred and twelve hundred dollars. Like a decent one, or a half decent one. The straight pulls are usually the more bougie end of the market. Like two and a half, $3,000. Three and a half thousand dollars. So rifles are very expensive in Australia.

 

And what they would do to get a nominal victory is they would change the law and say:

 

“Straight pulls, they’re rapid fire bolt actions, they’re too fast! And we can’t let people get them!”

 

So that means the next terror attack will be like 20% slower, right? Instead of 15 people being killed, maybe 14 or 13 people will be killed.

 

Henrik Palgren: So just send more cops and the amount of kills will be the same. Or more female cops.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, shit, one of the female cops almost killed just a random Arab on the bridge.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, of course, [chuckling] yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So the death toll almost got higher! You know, insert the Sam Hyde clip. Fuck!

 

Yeah, they scare me genuinely, especially when they’re at the door.

 

But yeah, I’ve had a male cop tackle me like with his gun out. And I wasn’t in fear at all! I was just like:

 

“I’m not resisting, I’m not resisting!”

 

Like, I was just chill.

 

But when I see a female cop with a gun out, I freak out! I’m like:

 

“This is it. Hail Odin! Like it’s over. [chuckling] Yeah, take me!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Take you to Valhalla? Yeah, if a female cop shoots you, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The Valkyries have come to take me! Oh no. Because they’re just so scary, because they’re shaking and shit! Like they get the brief. Like:

 

“He’s a terrorist! He’s a maniac! Be on guard!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And you say that to a woman with a gun before they’re like kicking your door. And fuck! It’s like they’re on speed. Like their pupils are so dilated its scary.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh gosh!

 

Thomas Sewell: The look in their eyes is scary. Yeah, it’s like you can’t tell where they’re predator or prey. It’s a mixture of both. They’re prey with a gun. It’s crazy!

 

But anyway, I’ll stop with the “misogyny”, because it’s not the point of the stream.

 

[59:13]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Let’s have some more. [chuckling] Come on! Okay. Yeah. So you know, again you have the Port Arthur massacre.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know that definitely is very suspicious!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I mean, undoubtedly. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s questions and it’s not because one’s a Muslim and one’s not. It’s not about that. The Port Arthur massacre is extremely suspicious and there’s a lot of good docos that have been made on it. An associate, I wouldn’t say an associate that might get him in trouble, but someone I’ve actually met before in the alternative sort of political space a decade ago, a guy called Paul Moder*, he actually made a documentary called Wasp on the Port Arthur massacre. And he spent about 10 years researching the Port Arthur massacre. And yeah, I won’t go into detail because I don’t want to do a conspiracy stream today, but it’s very obvious that what they’re telling us about that situation is just not true.

 

[* Film director and actor Paul Moder has embarked on a cinematic retelling of the Port Arthur Massacre, which goes into full production 2019, under the title of WASP. But unlike the current wave of “true crime”, Moder attempts to unpick the official version of events and create a rare piece of Australian revisionist-history cinema. Well before it’s made, WASP is already very controversial, but it continues a lineage of pessimism and historical revisionism that started in late 1960s with films like Blow Up, Parallax View and reaching crescendo with Oliver Stone’s JFK in 1991. https:// www.pureshitauscinema.com/interviews/moder.html]

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. And then end result of that, a lot of the guns were, it was a buyback program. Right. That happened after.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it’s a bit misunderstood. Even in Australia, most people don’t really know what happened. So John Howard* [former Aust PM] passed laws saying you can’t own semi-autos anymore, again unless you’ve got this special Cat C, Cat D license, whereas you used to get all firearms all on the same license.

 

[* John Winston Howard (born 26 July 1939) is an Australian former politician who served as the 25th prime minister of Australia from 1996 to 2007, holding office as leader of the Liberal Party of Australia. His eleven-year tenure as prime minister is the second-longest in Australian history, after that of Sir Robert Menzies. Since the death of Bob Hawke in 2019, Howard is the oldest living Australian former prime minister. Howard was born in Sydney and studied law at the University of Sydney. He was a commercial lawyer before entering Parliament.]

 

And I think some states, they didn’t even have licenses. I’ve heard stories of people, they could go into Kmart and buy a gun and like just buy it off the shelf and just take it on the train and go home with it. I’ve actually spoken to people in person that have said that they used to be able to, when they’re 18, they could walk down to the sports shop and buy a gun, get on a train, take the gun home on the train. No one would even blink an eye. And that was the Australia they grew up in. So some really similar to how America used to be. But after Port Arthur they changed the law so you can’t have semi-autos and they Instituted more licensing sort of schematics.

 

But what they did was they did it, they did a buyback program, but the stats of it are not publicly known. They’re publicly available, but they only got about 700,000 rifles in that first year. Obviously they got a few more later on, but they only got back about 700,000 rifles.

 

And I think 4% of the rifles they got back in the buyback were semi-autos. And to put that into context, 600,000 SKS is, were imported into the country in 1995 and 1996. So the year that the gun buyback happened, more SKS came into the country than SKS were handed over.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: Really any rifle that was handed over, almost.

 

So yeah, there’s a lot of law in this country about, there’s a whole generation of guys in their 70s and 80s that have all just got like crates of SKS is buried on their farms. Now, I’ve personally never seen it, I’ve never witnessed it, never touched one, never heard of one. They all got lost in fishing trips as far as, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Tragic boating accident!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, tragic boating accidents. I got no knowledge of anything like of the sort! But there’s a lot of like folklore about those hundreds of thousands of SKS that came in the country in 1996. As I said, only 4% of the 700,000 rifles that were handed back were semi-autos. And actually they’re not SKSs. They were actually SKKs.

 

So they’re like a Chinese SKS that could take AK magazines. And very occasionally there’ll be a shooting between like bikies and the cops. And you’ll see it’s full automatic fire coming out of one of these SKKs, shooting the helicopters or something crazy like that.

 

Henrik Palgren: So.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, but again that’s all very old, like, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, right.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll be in the Cosmoline oil* or whatever in the crates in the ground and 99% of them be forgotten about if the bikies don’t get their hands on them. But the Arabs actually have AKs and Glocks, all these like organized crime groups. There’s a whole shipment of Glocks that went missing years ago.

 

[* Cosmoline is the genericized trademark for a common class of brown, wax-like petroleum-based corrosion inhibitors, typically conforming to United States, Military Standard MIL-C-11796C Class 3. They are viscous when freshly applied, have a slight fluorescence, and solidify over time with exposure to air. The main ingredient in cosmoline is aliphatic petroleum solvent, which is volatile and evaporates over time.]

 

There’s been two terrorist attacks on Australian soil in the past by Africans of all things. And they got AKs from the local mosque. So there’s a huge amount of illegal firearms to that have been imported in the country since 1996 that the Arabs and Muslims have control over. Because they’re involved with organized crime.

 

Henrik Palgren: Correct? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: They control the vast majority of organized crime in Australia, similar to Sweden.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep, that’s right. Exactly! Yeah. Guns came in. I figured it’d be a little bit more complicated with Australia being an island as opposed to the EU. You can basically just drive in with them from like some Balkan country or something.

 

[1:03:51]

 

Thomas Sewell: But they get them in the same way they get drugs and they just get them in on shipping container. If a whole bunch get caught, they don’t care. They can bring in a thousand at a time.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, they’re the arming themselves and they’re being allowed to also. Yeah, I mean, let’s be honest. It’s a feature and not a bug, I think, to be honest.

 

Okay, so the next thing that we’re going. Yeah, okay, so Hate Speech laws. Anything else you want to say about that? What do you think? So they banned the swastika and the roman, you know, things like this. What’s next here? What do you think you’re looking at?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll just be more funding to this new task force they’ve built, the AFP, Australian Federal Police, which is basically trying to convert itself into the FBI.

 

So the Federal Police, my understanding of the Federal Police for the last couple decades has really focused on organized crime, has focused on importing and shipping like drugs into the country or guns into the country. It’s been focused on white-collar crime as well.

 

So really big frauders, really big scammers, kind of Wall Street crime, white-collar crime, people stealing money that work at banks. I know there was some young guys that got done with some sort of banking fraud scheme. And that’s all AFP. The state police don’t handle a lot of that. More expertise crime. That’s really what the feds have been doing for a long time. And what they’re converting the Federal Police into is. And it’s very clever the way the government do it. They basically have control of the budget. And so they’ll say:

 

“Hey, we’re giving this much money to the Federal Police. Oh you’ve got less funding now. You’ve got to shut down some of your departments.”

 

And so they shut down these departments and then like they do the budget and then the next year they go:

 

“Oh, actually you’re getting 500 million more than last year!”

 

And then it’s like:

 

“Oh, and here are the new departments that we recommend you set up.”

 

So there’s an article that came out today. So when the ASIO director general, Mike Burgess*, came into position in charge of ASIO, back in 2019, they fired 10 of the most senior, kind of staff of ASIO, And they would have done the same thing. They would have said:

 

“Oh, we don’t have money. You know, we’re too top heavy. We’re too top heavy! It’s a boys club at the top and they’re all on a good salary and we got to save money. We’re too top heavy!”

 

[* Michael Paul Burgess is an Australian intelligence official, and the current Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO). Prior to his appointment to this role on 16 September 2019, Burgess was director-general of the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). Burgess was born in England, and immigrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1973 at the age of seven. He was the first member of his family to study in higher education, receiving a degree in electrical engineering from the South Australian Institute of Technology in 1988.]

 

That’s what they’re doing. They’re trying to do that with defense at the moment. But really it’s always a coup. And it’s known in the Australian inner circle as being “The Red Wedding”. That’s what they called it. It’s like the Red Wedding where they basically couped and they killed off, they retired, they forced retired like 10 of the most senior counter terrorist experts at ASIO. That were probably like racist Right-wingers that were like they’re the post 9/11 intelligence people* that are like:

 

“Yep, let’s catch these Muslims!”

 

And they got rid of those guys. And that was around the time this Bondi shooter was being investigated by ASIO, So what you have is then you had the Brennan Tarrant incident [in New Zealand] happen. You had the top 10 senior staff of ASIO getting fired.

 

[* Who would well know that 9/11 was a ZOG false flag engineered from Israel. See ALSO LINKS below.]

 

And then you have the new funding come in after they’re getting fired. And that new funding came in, and 40% of their budget now is Right-wing extremism. And the budget for these state police forces, Federal Police forces and ASIO varies anywhere from 40 to 70% of their budget of their task force, of their manpower. Really, that’s what it means, is dedicated to anti-semitism from the Right-wing perspective, as opposed to from the Muslim perspective or just terrorism from a Right-wing perspective, as a set of terrorism from a Muslim perspective.

 

And so what we would be looking at is more funding to these task force. So that would mean more offices, that would mean a bigger budget, that would mean more raids, that would mean more intimidation, that would mean more charges are going to get laid.

 

And so it just means that people just got to be more, I guess, sensitive with their rhetoric. There are things that I have said in the past, back in 2018, 2019, that I, after those reforms came in, there’s no way I would say them in 2022, 2023.

 

And likewise, there are things that I’ve said online, 2023 that I just simply would not say today. And it’s not because I’m a, it’s not because I’m fucking optics cucking and:

 

“Oh, I’m a moderate now. Now we’ve got mainstream coverage and we’re a household name now I’m changing my rhetoric and betraying my base!”

 

It’s like, no, it’s just that I don’t want to go to jail for two years for fucking saying the wrong thing on the Internet. I’m okay with going to jail for a couple months for punching people in the head. That’s cool. But I’m not okay with going to jail for two, … Like what’s happening to Joel [Davis] right now? I mean, what did he say? “Rhetorical rape”?

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s crazy! And he’s done like two months now, so he’s done almost as much time, … He’s got a bailout coming up on the 23rd, so that’ll be what, a month in jail or more? It’d be almost six weeks in jail!

 

Henrik Palgren: Have you spoken to him recently?

 

[1:08:45]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I haven’t because he has to call me. So it takes a long time to get names and numbers added to the callers. So I haven’t received a phone call from him unfortunately. But I expect one soon. But I’ve spoken obviously with the lawyer and there’s obviously confidentiality so he can’t go into detail, but he can pass on regards and tell me about his general well being.

 

So yeah, I have spoken to people that have spoken to him. But yeah, he seems to be doing okay. He’s just frustrated. And as you would be.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, he missed his birth of his son, I believe.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. His first child.

 

Henrik Palgren: And they’ve been going after his girlfriend as well. Some headlines out, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Are you in contact with anyone else around him and how they’re dealing with it, the situation?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, my missus and his missus are in contact. Obviously she needs a bit of space with everything that’s going on. But you know, she’s reached out and yeah, we’re in contact with her. She’s got a little bit of support in Sydney from some of the partners over there and also her family are quite supportive.

 

So yeah, it’s disgusting that that journalist that went and harassed her. I think it was like two or three days after she gave birth where she’s putting nappies in the bin and they’ve got a private investigator out the front taking photos of her. That same journalist came to my family, my in law’s house and twisted words that my family said through a fly screen door.

 

And they also went to Matthew Gruter’s house as well and Matthew Gruter’s wife had just given birth as well. I think they had a two week old baby. And yeah, when they went to my family, my in-laws house, we’ve got a brand new baby as well. Like we’re not brand new but like a six month old baby and a toddler. And they’re attacking, they’re coming after the women, they’re coming after our wives and you know, it’s obviously abhorrent. But and it’s radicalizing, it’s really radicalizing. You know the expression:

 

“You don’t hate journalists enough!”

 

And this is a classic example of it. Like imagine the mentality that a journalist would have to go:

 

“Oh, this woman’s just given birth.”

 

Because they know, they know the details because it was mentioned in court that she was due within a week. And so imagine going:

 

“Oh, she’s due within a week. Let’s cause as much stress and harm and cortisol to her as possible!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And put her in the news and put her in the media either while she’s just about to have birth or give birth or she’s just had the process.

 

And anyone that knows anything about childbirth, labor, postpartum, they know that that’s the most absolutely critical time for a woman to balance her hormones and to not have any unnecessary stress. It’s when they need the most amount of sort of oxytocin. They just need love, they need cuddles. Like usual, but on another level, women need just cuddles in general.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: But they really just need cuddles and support before, during and after that whole process. And these journalists would know that they would know that. She’s a woman, she would know that. But these people are evil and they’re possessed by demons and the demons attack the vulnerable. They attack the weak and the vulnerable and they attack women. They attack women when they’re at their most vulnerable. I mean my missus didn’t get attacked like any day of the week while I wasn’t in jail. But she’s getting harassed and attacked by journalists when I’m in jail. So when she’s alone. So they come after you when you’re alone. They come after you when you’re vulnerable. They come after you when you’ve just given birth, you can barely walk because, you’re still recovering.

 

I mean, yeah. What we’re going to do to these journalists when we take power in a legal and lawful manner is going to be like, I’ve got experience with how the system has treated me over the years for being a political dissident. And yeah, these people are really silly! Like the way they’re behaving, they don’t know who they’re messing with. They just don’t know who they’re messing with! They don’t realize that we have really long memories and we are never going to forgive them! Ever! So keep going, see what happens! I mean they may as well keep doubling down because they’re already going to get the worst! [chuckling] Like the worst thing I can think of is what’s going to happen to these journalists, to do this to Joel’s missus and by default to Joel. But Joel’s fine, he’ll be right. But to do this to his partner is just disgusting!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, media has always been a fifth column, right? Always an operative for the state, an additional element or something that you can use in your war, in your effort to target someone who is an undesirable to the system, essentially. Right.

 

So yeah, it’s absolutely disgusting!

 

Okay, so yes, tell us and then we’ll get to some questions here too, guys. We appreciate you get a bunch of questions to get to, and comments.

 

But yeah, the party then. So tell us about how these ideas formulated and the fact that you were at a point here, like the legal process in Australia makes it fairly easy as far as I understand it. And I’m sure there’s hoops you have to jump through as always. But in terms of actually registering it and even the possibility of getting a seat in a county, I’m not sure if you call a county down there, but explain this to us a little bit.

 

[1:14:22]

 

Thomas Sewell: Okay. Well, from the start, Australia has two houses. It has what’s called an Upper House and a Lower House. Our Upper House is a Senate and you get elected based off the, a larger, … How to explain it?

 

So you can get Senators in quite easily if you broadly get a vote across the state. So even though it’s a federal election, you might only need somewhere between 1 and 10% of the state to vote for you. And again, it’s not a straightforward, it’s not an exact percentage that you need. Some people get 7% of the vote and they don’t get a Senator. Some people get 2% of the vote and they get a Senator. It’s all about preferencing schemes and deals and there’s a lot of dodgy stuff that goes on in the Australian system, which should all be eradicated, but we just have to work with what we’ve got.

 

But if you get say 10% of the vote, you’re almost guaranteed to get a Senate seat, and that’s 10% of the vote, regardless of where they are living in that state. And then each state, I think has, I don’t know, I think there’s like 49. No, there’d be more than 49. I think it’s 75 Senators in total, something like that. And they’re spread out across the state at a federal level.

 

But then you have the Lower House, which are called MPs or it’s the House of Representatives and you have to actually win the majority of the vote within what you would call a county. We call it an electorate.

 

And so the state is broken down into say, I think 49 electorates and or it actually depends. I think it’s 120,000 people per electorate, roughly. Some are 100,000, some 140,000, but roughly it’s 120,000 people or 120,000 voters, one or the other. And you have to win 51% or 50.1% of the vote to get that seat. Now you don’t have to win 50% of the primary vote, you have to do these preferencing schemes with all these other parties, because we’re not a two party system like in America where it’s Republican or Democrat. The Labor Party might get 34% of the vote, then the Green Party might get 8% of the vote, that makes 42. And then as long as their coalition is bigger than the coalition of the Liberals, then they get the seat.

 

So there’s like, I don’t know, 200 MPs across the country and 75 Senators, something like that, or those aren’t exact numbers. Just go on Wikipedia and you can find out exactly! But what’s important to know is that we have these two different houses. Kind of like how you’ve got Congressmen and Senators and kind of like how in the UK they’ve got the House of Lords and then they’ve got the ministers, or, sorry, not the ministers, the MPs.

 

So we have MPs and we have Senators and they’re different, they’re elected on different bases. Now we’re not really going to contest the Lower House. Even though there’s more seats available, those seats are much harder to get because you need to actually be the dominant political force in that area, which if you’re not in the major parties, is almost impossible.

 

For example, the Green Party in Australia is the third biggest party in Australia and they have 11 Senators or 10 Senators. And I think they only have one MP. And that could have been from a defection. I don’t know if actually. No, it might have been an actual victory in the Lower House.

 

So that’s basically all the MP seats are controlled by the Liberal Party and Labor Party, the two big parties. They’ve got like a monopoly on the Lower House, duopoly, or jewopoly.

 

And then the Senate is actually more diverse. It’s got all the micro parties in it. It’s got One Nation’s got four or five seats. The Greens have got 10 seats. There’s all these niche parties with one or two seats. So they have a lot more power in the Senate. And how that works is the Lower House passes bills. So they’ll say we want to introduce new legislation or we want to introduce new laws. And they’ll draft it up, they’ll write it up. They have to make their deals in the Lower House to get the Bill to pass through the Lower House, which is where the Prime Minister is. We don’t have a president. So the Prime Minister doesn’t have any executive power at passing bills. His executive powers come from his cabinet.

 

So it’s more about the management of the country. That’s where his power comes from. He can’t manage the Lower House. He’s just the Prime Minister. He’s the prime speaker in the Lower House. He doesn’t have like, I don’t believe he has any veto ability. If he does, someone in the chat correct me, but I don’t believe the Prime Minister has any vetoing ability. There’s all sorts of niche crazy laws. Because we’ve got like the British Parliament system, we’re basically operating a British Parliament that’s slightly modified. So there’s a Speaker of the House and there’s a Leader of the House, all sorts of stuff going on.

 

But the general rule is that once the Bill passes through the Lower House, it then has to go to the Upper House, which is the Senators, and then has to be passed through the Upper House as well.

 

So if we can get guys in the Senate, we can block bills that are bad for White Australians and we can agree to bills that are good for White Australians. And we can quite easily in the next one or three between one and three election cycles. So between three to nine years from now, we can quite easily, quite easily, hold the balance in the Senate!

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: So what that, what that would mean is we might only need five seats in the Senate and we could quite easily swing, … A lot of these bills. They can be swung by one or two votes in the Senate. So it might pass easily through the Lower House, but then it gets the Senate, it won’t get through the Senate. So we can block some bad stuff coming through. And obviously that can then tie in with our general political strategy.

 

Obviously, we don’t believe that there’s a pure Parliamentary solution. Obviously, we’re working in so many different ways to build parallel society and parallel function in this country.

 

And obviously the meta-political shift and the cultural shift that we’re trying to make, which is our primary concern is getting Australians to identify as White people. The problem is that they don’t identify as White people. Well, they’re starting to. And that’s where we’re seeing our success, is they’re starting to identify as White people again, which is how it was. And we need to get back.

 

And what we’re seeing with this Bondi thing, for example, is for the first time ever, in the “most successful multicultural” country in the world, we’re seeing actually a lot of mainstream criticizm of multiculturalism. So multiculturalism is like the golden calf in Australia. They worship it. They absolutely worship it! Multiculturalism is the replacement to the White Australia Policy.

 

So for the first, no one’s allowed to criticize multiculturalism. If you criticize it, you have to criticize it in a way that:

 

“Oh, they’re not assimilating enough! Of course I support multiculturalism, but I just want a better version of multiculturalism.”

 

You know, I mean that’s the only way that people really criticize multiculturalism in Parliament, within the political realm. But what we’re finally seeing now is genuine criticizm and a grassroots dislike of multiculturalism in Australia. But there’s not one political party that’s against multiculturalism. We’re the only one.

 

So can we get 5% of the vote? Can we get 10? Can we get 20? Can we get 30? I don’t know. I don’t have the answer to that at this stage. Time will tell, and we’ll see how bad the country gets and how radical and how racialized politics becomes. But we are succeeding in what we’re doing. We have about double the amount of people that are signed up to support us. However, only half of those people are signed up to actually go on the registrar, which is a private form with the AEC. It’s not the government. The AEC is a third party that is obviously a government institution, but it’s a unique third party that has never leaked data of membership lists.

 

Henrik Palgren: So this would be the first! No, I’m just joking! Because it would, …

 

[1:22:10]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: It would be the first time. Well, how they doxed the One Nation list back in 1998 or 1999, but they didn’t dox it from the AEC. The AEC didn’t have a breach of privacy. They’re a professional institution. They’re civn ats mostly, but they’re professional institution, and they’re a patriotic institution in that sense. But the way that the list of One Nation members got leaked was by jews in the party. Jews in the party leaked it!

 

So they had, there were jews in the party that had access to the list and they leaked it to their friends that didn’t like the party. Whereas we don’t have any jews in our party.

 

Henrik Palgren: First time in history!

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s only about four people in the organization. Maybe a fifth. Yeah, there’s four or five people that have access to the list. I am one of them, obviously.

 

But yeah, it’s held in the absolute tightest of circles. There’s some state leaders that don’t even have access to the list. If they asked for it, we would give it to them. I would let any state leader see the list.

 

But yeah, it’s a very, it’s a secret document. I mean, ASIO would probably be able to see the list because they could probably hack into our computers. But look, what are they going to do with it? What are ASIO going to do with it?

 

Henrik Palgren: No, sure. No, I get the point. I’m just saying, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The fact is there’s 3400 people on the list, so I wouldn’t be concerned. So there’s some Australians:

 

“I don’t want to sign up to the party because then ASIO is going to know I exist!”

 

It’s like, look, you’re probably already on a list from being racist on Facebook and liking The Noticer. You know [chuckling] what I mean?

 

Like if you follow particular pages on Facebook, you’re probably already on their list. I guess you would just be on a maybe a different list.

 

But again, I’ve said this for years. It’s strength in numbers. It’s strength in numbers. And we share the risk. We share the risk. When there’s 10,000 names on the list, which maybe in a year or two there will be, what matters? Why does it matter if you’re one of ten thousand? I mean, if you’re one of ten thousand, what’s going to happen to you? The police, I mean, how much resources they’re going to have to harass? The way the police harass us is they prioritize who’s most important to harass. So they harass the leadership. 90% of our membership have never been harassed by the police. They’ve had no issues with the police.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I mean, that’s membership of our activist core. I’m not talking about membership of the party. I’m saying 90% of our activists because we’re so big now, the vast majority have never even been tested. So only the kind of guys that have been around four or five years have really any experience with repeated harassment from the police.

 

So, yeah, I would say that’s the party website. Well, that’s the org website. Obviously, the party is a part of the org. We’re looking at putting forward our four big policies in January next year.

 

[1:24:54]

 

So we just had a series of seminars where we covered our four policies. They’re not on the website yet. I’ve copped a little bit of criticizm for that, but it will be up on the website soon. We’re just polishing them. We had a seminar last weekend across all the States except New South Wales because they’re preparing for nationals. Where we covered, we had one speaker per policy. And the four policies are simple.

 

We want the White Australia Policy to be reinstated, meaning we don’t want Australia to be a multicultural country anymore, we don’t want it to be a multiracial country anymore. And we want to start reversing the demographic avalanche of White people and start going back the other way and making Australia more White. And with the ultimate goal of making it entirely White.

 

And obviously that is going to involve a combination of mass deportations and also re-migration strategies. So we’d be looking at changing a whole number of laws. Is that going to happen anytime soon? No, but what we can do is start moving things in the right direction by taking a little bit of state control. So our biggest priority is protecting our demographics.

 

And so if we can protect the demographics of this country then all the other sort of Weimar conditions are fixable. You know, demographics are well not permanent. But demographics are destiny obviously. And that’s really our priority as a party. That’s why it’s policy number one is just protecting White Australia, protecting our demographics. And not just protecting it, but advancing our demographics. So we’ve gone from 99% White to about 66% White or 67% White in a period of around 50 years. So what we want to look at doing over the next 50 years or less, ideally a lot less, ideally over the next 10 years. But I’m realistic, it might take a bit more than 10 years. We want to look at going back up towards 99% and beyond.

 

Policy number two is called “End Debt Slavery”. So we’re going to ban obviously in the same principle as the White Australia Policy, the first principle of End Debt Slavery is we’re going to ban interest on family home loans.

 

So we’re going to guarantee every single Australian family an interest free home loan. They’ll get money lent to them by the State bank. So we’re going to take back the state bank.

 

So we had a state bank in Australia called the Commonwealth Bank. It’s since been privatized in 1996 and it’s worth, I don’t know, something like $1.3 trillion. And we’re going to take back ownership of the state bank and we’re going to use the state bank, the Commonwealth bank, to lend money to young families that are married, that are White Australians and they’re going to get interest free loans to buy houses.

 

And that’s how we’re going to fix the housing crisis is we’re going to deport millions of non-Whites which is going to massively free up the market. And then White Australians that want to buy a home or White Australians that currently have a home, all the interest is going to be wiped off the principal. So any new loan will be no interest. And any current loan, not only will you not pay interest going forward, but also any interest you have paid is going to be refunded to you off your principal.

 

So a lot of people are going to have their homes basically instantly paid off because most people have already paid more than their homes worth in interest. If they’re like Gen-X’s for example, if they’re more in the older sort of family bracket, they’ve got teenage kids and stuff, a lot of these people have already paid off their homes in interest alone. So that’s policy number two.

 

Policy number three is we’re going to do something called a “New Magna Carta”, or a Bill of Rights. We’re going to create an Australian Bill of Rights. Australia doesn’t have a Bill of Rights. So policy three is we’re going to introduce a series of rights and duties, a series of freedoms that we think are fundamental to being Australian and members of Western civilization, members of the White race. And we’re going to introduce these things in order to curtail the ever increasing Police State we live in and the powers of the tyranny of the government. So we want to reduce government power and increase citizen power.

 

So that’s things like a First Amendment. So like free speech, we don’t have that in our constitution. We have an implied right and that’s not good enough, because it’s being twisted and turned. We need to have a really explicit principle so that we get rid of all this hate speech legislation and all this religious vilification legislation. We want to get rid of all of that and give Australians the right to freedom of speech. And the right to criticize the government, even criticize us as much as we’re, you know, authoritarians, we’ll cop fair criticizm, obviously.

 

Other principles include, we want to do like a maximum 10% income tax. We want to include gun rights, but we’re going to be very tactful for how we include gun rights. So I want to do the Swiss model personally. I’m flexible and I’m open minded to how we could implement a Second Amendment in Australia.

 

[1:29:48]

 

Bu I want to do it in the Swiss model. Meaning you would do a national service at a high school. You would get issued a firearm during your national service and then you would retain that military style semi-automatic rifle or fully automatic rifle, but you would maintain that rifle as you would never be a civilian again. You would do your national service and that would make you a citizen. Kind of Starship Troopers kind of Fascism 101.

 

But it’s also just Athenian. It’s an Athenian model. It’s actually the foundation of democracy in some ways, the citizen soldier.

 

So that’s how we would look at implementing it. It wouldn’t be a strict Second Amendment the way you guys have it in Australia [America], because we need a lot of cultural change. We need, I think a few generations or at least one generation to breathe. To fix a lot of these issues. We don’t want to just have like guns galore just overnight without those kind of cultural changes.

 

And then policy four is re-industrialization. So that’s pretty simple. It’s really about taking back our infrastructure. Australia being an economic powerhouse again. Not just getting stripped of all its natural resources and being sent off to the developing world. We want to build all of our stuff here again. We want to build cars here again. We want to build ships here again. We’re an island. We should have a massive shipping capacity. We’re so reliant on trade. We should be a naval superpower. We should be we’re already a resource superpower. We have all the raw materials to do it. We need to re-industrialize.

 

We need to invest, take control of the RBA, the Reserve Bank of Australia, take control of the Commonwealth bank and do some serious, serious economy building in a completely different direction using high tech manufacturing and reclaim our economic autarky, or at least a large percentage of it.

 

So those are the four policies that’s what we’re putting forward.

 

Obviously there’s a lot of things mixed in amongst that you know, people talk about education Reform and you know, getting rid of multiculturalism will do a lot of what we want for education reform.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a lot to take in. No, obviously everyone needs to visualize that.

 

So the website, we’re going to have nice little graphics made up and there’ll be a little write up of each policy. And when you check the website out at some point, either late, probably not late January, probably February, but the policies will be announced soon. And I assume the website will be very neat and tidy by February with the policies.

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good. Nice. Holden, was that the car the Australia used to produce?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] right. Yeah, we made Fords as well. Fords and Holden, Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Like a version of Ford Australia, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Kind of yeah. And Holden’s just General Motors.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, okay, I see. Did you have any like native cars that you actually like?

 

Thomas Sewell: Holden is the native brand that was eventually owned by General Motors.

 

Henrik Palgren: We’re gonna have an Aryan future Tom. They’re gonna be flying cars. Okay!

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, there’s gonna be all. Look, I’m not gonna go too much into policy four because it’s a bottomless pit of what we can do.

 

Henrik Palgren: Powered by vril!

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna do the craziest shit! We’re gonna do stuff no one’s ever seen before. We’re gonna terraform Australia. We’re gonna actually terraform it.

 

Henrik Palgren: There you go.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna do crazy shit! We’re gonna do inland lake, high speed rail, flying cars, …

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s the spirit! That’s the spirit right there!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s gonna be vriltastic!

 

Henrik Palgren: Vriltastic. I just want to play this.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna give Australia a sense of purpose again. It’s not just about race and it’s not removing the slavery.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: White Australians without debt or without interest still have a demoralized attitude. What we’re trying to do is raise that spirit. It’s about a spiritual revival.

 

And I think part of that, because I’m not too big at talking about economics, although I’ve studied it a fair bit in my own time, but where economics is important is that most people, 99% of men need to go to work Monday to Friday. They need to. It’s a big part of their identity. It’s a big part of their purpose. And where most White men are lacking in purpose is not just from a racial perspective and not just from a demoralization in terms of the culture and the media and the movies they’re watching and the music they’re listening to. And the way that they’re being completely subverted at an economic level. It’s also when they go to work, what are they doing? Like, I worked in the construction industry for about five years, almost six years. And you go to work and you’re building what we call Jeet boxes. A Jeet box is these fucking shitty little townhouses with like all these different multi-roofs on them. They’re just the dumb. This is the dumbest fucking architecture style you ever see in your life! It’s the most ineffective, inefficient way to build a house you could possibly imagine. And it’s a dog box with no room on it, no backyard. The roofs are all touching each other, so they’re a separate dwelling, but not really. And it’s just so demoralizing just putting a roof on something like that. It just feels disgusting!

 

And then one day a month, you get a contract, or a cashy or something, and it’s some guy on a farm and he’s got 200 acres and he needs a new roof on his shed. And you go out, you drive an extra hour and a half to go to this guy’s farm. And you put the roof on the shed and you have a beer with the boys afterwards. And you just look at each other and you just say:

 

“What if every day was like this? What if every day was like this? Like, how good did today feel?”

 

Like the weather could have been awful! It doesn’t matter. And it just feels so good to just be on some land and just to build something and then and you can have a relationship with the guy you’re building it for. Like the farmer comes out of his house, he’s like:

 

“How you going boys? You know, you wanna iced coffee or something? I’ll get the Mrs to make you one.”

 

And like you, after work you can sit back and you can chat a bit and then you get in the car and you drive home.

 

[1:36:24]

 

 

But when you’re in these jeet boxes, like the dust and the muck and Indians are coming out of their house next to you and oh, it’s just so demoralizing. It’s just, why am I doing this? Why am I building this disgusting, ugly, grotty filth for these people to just replace me? So we want to bring back the Australian dream. Not just in the:

 

“Oh, I’ve got a nice house and I’ve got a nice backyard and I’ve got a golden retriever and a white picket fence.”

 

It’s not just about getting it back in that sense. It’s, well, what are you doing to get it? So we want to completely revolutionize the economy in a way that people actually feel a sense of pride, going to work again. Which I think Australians and Americans and Europeans, they probably had that 50 years ago.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I think you’re right. Absolutely! Yeah. I wanted to play this clip here and I’m going to take some of the comments and questions from the audience watching here. But Robert Menzies, he was the 12th Prime Minister of Australia. He served from 1939-41 and then his second term from 46. Was that all the way to his retirement in 1966? Did he serve that long? Do you remember? Was that long? Or it must have been interrupted.

 

Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I want to play a clip with him. That’s the point on the White Australia Policy. Right. So listen to this here. I’m sure you’ve seen the clip, but let’s play it for the audience here.

 

Stewart Lamb: Do you believe that the White, the so-called “White Australia” policy will always be a stumbling block?

 

Sir Robert Menzies: I don’t think it’s such a stumbling block as people pretend, but that it’s important for us, I haven’t the slightest doubt!

Stewart Lamb: That we should maintain it the way it is?

Sir Robert Menzies: As long as we possibly can we ought to aim at having a homogeneous population!

I don’t want to see reproduced in Australia the kind of problem they have in South Africa, or in America, or increasingly in Great Britain. I think it’s been a very good policy and it’s been of great value to us.

And most of the criticizm of it that I’ve ever heard doesn’t come from these oriental countries. It comes from (((wandering Australians))).

Stewart Lamb: For these views of course, in the past, Sir Robert, you have been described as a racist.

Sir Robert Menzies: Have I?

Stewart Lamb: I have read this, yes.

Sir Robert Menzies: Well, if I were not described as a racist, I’d be the only public man who hasn’t been! That’s one of these jargons, isn’t it? One of these modern words, you call a man a “racist”.

 

[END]

 

All right, what do you make of that? That’s how it used to be. Right? So this was like an idea. This is what I’m saying. What you’re proposing here is not some new radical thing. This is just basically going back to what the intention of the country was to begin with and the people running it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. I really. A little bit of a red herring, but I really like the way he describes jews as “wandering Australians”.

 

Henrik Palgren: I figured that’s what it was! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. That was a dog whistle back in the day. Yeah. You know:

 

“We don’t get this kind of criticizm from the Orientals. We get this kind of criticizm from the wandering Australians.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Same thing as Nixon, because this is around the same time as Nixon. This is where you’ve got the conservative Right in power and back in the 60s, and they’re starting to realize that the jewish problem is what’s trying to destroy the nation. And it’s very clear from day dot that the jewish community here in Australia and obviously in America and Britain have been working fervently hard to dismantle the homogeneous White population and turn it into Babylon, so that they can hide in the mess that they make and they can hide their crimes. And yeah, as you said, that is how Australia was.

 

Another thing that’s interesting is how much the accent has changed. I obviously don’t have a pure Australian accent. I’m referred to a lot as a South African, but I’m actually not a South African. I have extended family in South Africa, but my accent is because my parents are both English.

 

So you can actually tell from these old politicians. Australians actually spoke with more of an English accent. They were more connected to the mother country in that sense. And the accent has definitely degraded, I think. And it’s more, it’s too ocka now. It’s become more and more uncouth. I know that I can’t really talk much. Also there was an increase of, there was just so much English immigration into Australia. So that would have maintained the properness of the English accent.

 

[1:40:08]

 

But yeah, what can you say about that? What I see as a statesman, we used to have statesmen in charge of the country. If I was living in 1966, would I have agreed with Menzies? Probably not. There probably would have been someone more racist than Menzies. I probably would have been like:

 

“Menzies a cuck!”

 

Or whatever [chuckling] the 1966 version of that was. Like:

 

“Menzies is too soft on the (((wandering Australian))). We need a, we need a more strict approach to the wandering Australian question!”

 

But yeah, it’s definitely obvious that Canada, Australia, even America to a large degree. There’s a lot of infrastructure, sort of rhetorical infrastructure in the founding of our nations. And you can find it.

 

I mean, I did a speech, a 45 minute speech on the weekend and I mentioned in the speech I had a legal friend who’s looked through the Constitution very thoroughly. The founding father of Australia or the first prime minister of Australia, Edmund Barton. Someone was arguing with him while they were drafting the Constitution in 1898. So it came out in 1901, but they spent about three years drafting it. And in 1898 he had an argument with another politician and they were asking about:

 

“Why have you put this race, this specific race power law in?”

 

And the first Prime Minister of Australia said:

 

“Basically we need a race power law because we need to be able to mass deport non-Whites when we don’t want them.”

 

And he didn’t even use the term “non-Whites”. He basically said:

 

“Inferior people and races, inferior and colored races. We should be able to deport them as a whole, when we don’t need them.”

 

So like if we need them to pick sugarcane, for example, like the way that you had blacks picking cotton, we had Pacific Islanders picking sugarcane in Queensland. The idea was before Federation we had, I can’t remember what they call them. “Coolies” [refers to Chinese workers], I think, or Kanakas*, I think they had a slur for them.

 

[* Plantation owners in Queensland had experienced difficulty in hiring laborers for their plantations, especially for the pay rates that were being offered. It was said that this situation was hindering the economic viability of those rural businesses. Many pastoralists had used convicts as laborers, but when the transportation of convicts to New South Wales ended in 1840, this meant that the plantation owners lost a major source of cheap labor. The lack of cheap labor for cotton and sugar plantations in Queensland led to the advent of Kanaka immigration. Kanakas (as laborers from the Pacific Islands were called) were imported in large numbers to work in Australia (especially in Queensland, but also in northern New South Wales). The term “Kanaka” means “man” or “person” in the Hawaiian language. Souce: Https:// www. Australianculture.org/the-white-Australia-policy-kanakas /]

 

But they had these Pacific islanders come in and pick sugarcane and they wanted to make sure there was legislation that if they brought in a thousand of them, they picked the sugar cane and then they could force them on a boat to go home when it was done, so that they could keep Australia White. And he won the argument and they put it in the Constitution. So in the Australian constitution, there’s a race power law where we can just mass deport people on the basis of their race.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right!

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s the kind of country. Yeah. So we’re doing well here. We’re doing well here.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nice.

 

Thomas Sewell: So I’m very excited. I’m very excited. We’re breath of fresh air for the political system. The Australian people are begging! They’re begging for a real Right-wing party. And we’re getting a lot of support. And we have a lot of people come down to our seminars, our political meetings, and say:

 

“Hey, look, I’ve been a Liberal Party member my whole life. I’ve gone to Liberal Party meetings my whole life and I’ve never seen anything like this. I’m so glad to see proud, patriotic Australians!”

 

And the feedback has just been amazing! The feedback, especially the older generation, like all the Boomers coming down, just saying thank, like basically just:

 

“Thank you, finally we’re seeing men that are just red blooded!”

 

And I’ve haven’t been to a Liberal Party meeting in a really long time. But I’ve had friends go and some of our members get paid to go to Liberal Party meetings [chuckling] because they got to fill seats. And the young guys that don’t have jobs, they’re like:

 

“All right, I’ll take the 100 bucks.”

 

And it’s that embarrassing, the Liberal Party at the moment. But they just report back and they just say:

 

“It’s just old people that are dying, that are just like falling asleep. And the people speaking are just homosexuals!”

 

It’s just homosexuals and girl bosses and that’s it. And they just useless rhetoric. And it’s just uninspiring. It’s just boring. And it’s just a freight train just running out of steam basically.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And that’s the system. It’s just a freight train running out of steam. They’ve got the momentum of decades and decades of organizing behind them.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I mean, the parties are shrinking. The political parties here in Australia have never been so small. I think the Liberal Party has gone from like 60,000 members a decade ago to like, I think they’re barely getting 20,000 now. And I mean, just in the last election cycle, I think they’ve gone from 30,000 to 20,000 just in one election cycle.

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s fascinating! So, like, everyone’s checking out, but like the bureaucracy, the paperwork, the same. The scum that have the motivation, I guess, just to kind of get into that dirty world and keep it going. That’s what just is causing it to move on for now.

 

Thomas Sewell: We haven’t even put policies on our website yet and we’re already tracking to be the sixth biggest party in Australia out of the like 100 parties that are in Australia.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’d be hilarious!

 

[1:45:04]

 

Thomas Sewell: So the hype is real. The hype is real! Like a lot of people are hyping it online. And I don’t want people thinking like:

 

“Oh, we’re gonna have Prime Minister Thomas Sewell!”

 

That’s not likely. I want to make it clear that’s not likely at all! The chance of that is probably 1%. It’d have to be really happening for something like that to happen. It’d be like Ron Paul would have a meltdown. It’d be that kind of happening.

 

Henrik Palgren: And as we know, nothing ever happens.

 

Thomas Sewell: Until it happens. Nothing ever happens until it happens. And then one day it happens!

 

Henrik Palgren: Let me ask you this, Tom, though, because obviously you will be, as you know, and I’m sure you’ve thought about this too, you will be dealt with or treated on a totally different level. I mean, you would potentially see for the democratic system to defend itself, it would basically unravel the very definitions and guardrails that makes it being able to term itself as a democracy. I would reckon. What do you expect the pushback will be? And the way they will just say:

 

“No, you can’t do that!”

 

Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Just empty words. Just empty words. I think there’s probably less than a 10% chance they’ll be able to block us. I’m very confident it’s all going to go ahead. The black pillers need to be gassed! All the black pillers, just gas them!

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, no! And I’m not. When I bring, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m not saying you’re black pilling.

 

Henrik Palgren: Sure. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: What I’m saying is there’s people online, I see comments every now and then where it’s like:

 

“They’re just gonna shut them down and make it illegal! And they’re all gonna go to jail!”

 

And it’s like, shut up! You’re either a jew or you’ve got your dick taped between your legs. Like, it’s just the most disgusting, demoralized, weak kind of energy. It’s so anti-Australian. Australians, we’re on a frontier we’re the frontier of the world and we’re surrounded on all sides by non-Whites. We’ve got a very harsh landscape, you know, we’ve allegedly got all these animals that try to kill us and to be like. And to be like:

 

“Oh, the government’s gonna shut us down, we can’t do anything!”

 

Is just the most weak cunt energy, like just fuck off! Go live somewhere else. This land is not built for weak cunts! This is hard cunt territory here and we don’t tolerate that shit! And those people, a lot of the time I think that they’re just jews. I think a lot of the time it’s just jews trying to sow fear in people that support us. The chances of the government blocking us is very low because they don’t have the framework to do it. They would have to nuke the whole system to do it. And are they prepared to do that? I don’t think they got the balls. I mean, you’ve got some rogue, really rogue politicians like Christopher Minns, who’s the New South Wales premier, saying that:

 

“He’s going to block the party and we’re not going to let this party come to power. And we’re going to dox all the members!”

 

And the AEC came out and made a statement saying:

 

“You can’t do that.”

 

And you’ve got like all these other Senators and all these other political leaders coming out and saying:

 

“Well, actually, we can’t do that. We have to let them. If they follow the rules, we have to let them.”

 

So it’s just basically kevtching like a bunch of losers. And it’s good. The more they kevtch, the better because it shows that they’re afraid and it doesn’t pass the pub test. And the average Aussie sees that on the news and goes:

 

“What? You want to ban this party? Why?”

 

And then they go on the website and they’re like:

 

“Oh, cool, I get all the interest paid off my mortgage and there’s less Indians. Fuck, that actually sounds all right!”

 

What we’re doing is really controversial from the concept that the country’s being destroyed by people that hate it! But it’s not controversial to the average Aussie, it really passes the pub test. And the idea that they want to ban it. The way the Australian psyche works is very clear. If the government wants to ban something, the average Aussie has this rebellious nature where they go:

 

“Why? Why does the government want to ban that?”

 

And they’ll look into it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, and that was my point, right? Bring it up. It’s a win-win regardless, right? It will expose the system or you actually have a foot in through the door. And either way it’s a plus.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re inevitable no matter what our strategy is. And we’ve got insurance policies, we’re not putting all our eggs in this one basket. But we see it as part of a matrix of power. And you can’t just build a political party. You have to build everything. It’s all about the back end. A political party is just, it’s not a front, but a political party it’s just the presence of power.

 

[1:49:50]

 

 

The real power of the Labor Party, for example, is not the Labor Party. It’s all the trade unions they control and all the non-White community groups that have all as a bloc joined the Labor Party, as a mosque, as a church, as a Chinese community center, as a, whatever it is.

 

Again, going back to the Liberal Party, whenever there is an influx of members in the Liberal Party because they just, every year they’re getting less and less and less members. But one branch might have an extra 200 members this year compared to last year. And how did that happen? How did that happen? How have they got 200 extra members? Well, we might have a friend, or a colleague or an associate that is, on paper, a member of that branch so that they can keep an eye on it. And they’ll tell us, they’ll report back to me and they’ll say:

 

“Oh, yep, some rich Chinese businessman just joined the party. He made a deal with the people that run that branch and he just got 200 of his laborers to sign up at the party.”

 

So he just signs up all the people that work for him and says:

 

“You have to do this. You work for me. You have to do this.”

 

Because they’re Chinese, they’ll just be like:

 

“Yes, sir.”

 

And they do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. Yep, Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: And that’s the only way the Liberal Party or the Labor Party are getting these massive influxes. It’s just like rich Chinese or rich Indian businessmen or community leaders. The Chinese operate primarily through business, so they don’t have community leaders the way the Indians and the Muslims do, or the jews do. Well, the jews have both, obviously. They have business leaders and they have community leaders. But the Chinese, because they don’t have a religion and because they can’t organize as the, CCP, they organize as a front for the CCP, which is through CCP business here in Australia.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: And they bring in all their workers, they get their workers PR [Permanent Residency], then they get their workers citizenship, and then they start becoming a voting bloc.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: The hype is real! The Whites are leaving the major parties in droves, and the major parties are only retaining their numbers through the influx of browns.

 

And that’s why multiculturalism is their death rattle. That’s why they won’t ever give it up, because it’s the only way they can maintain their party.

 

So we’re forcing the dialectic. We’re heightening the contradictions. Everything that we’re doing is tactical. Everything we’re doing is strategic. And people for years have been saying:

 

“Oh, they’re wignats, they’re dumb, they don’t know what they’re doing. You got to join the Republican Party and you’ve got to subvert it from the inside.”

 

It’s like, these people are not creative thinkers and they’re not high IQ and they’re not morally courageous. The way you change the demographic destiny of the country is you have to schism the forces. And you have to put your flag up high. You have to raise the banner high! That’s the song. That’s the song! We’ve got the song, the Banner High!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know, you got to raise the flag high and you got to say:

 

“Hello! Hello! We’re the Whites! We’re doing the White people thing!”

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s time.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. In America, that’s really hard! But it’s hard becauseyou guys haven’t laid the framework over the last 50 years, and we haven’t either. In Australia, we’re only picking this up. Well, there has been some that have tried, and obviously in America, people have tried, but we have built the meta-political energy that can be converted, or a portion of it can be converted into contesting a system that’s not a duopoly. You know, we’ve got that European style politics, but it wasn’t always like that. 20, 30 years ago we had the American style politics. The Greens were like 1% of the vote and that was like the third biggest party. Like you had the Australian Christians and you had like the Nationals, but the Nationals formed a coalition with the Liberals and then they became known as the Coalition.

 

And so you had like 95 plus percent of the vote in two parties. Now it’s like 70 or less. So it’s moving more and more into that European style and you have to just do the framework. So you just have to do the groundwork, you have to do the legwork.

 

Henrik Palgren: What I like about it is that it’s a different approach to it. Right. And you’re seeing that elsewhere too, that with numbers comes power and you build something else first as opposed to doing like, here’s a new political, well, who’s going to join a new political party, kind of thing. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, what caliber of people as well.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: How do you put a hierarchy?

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Because there’s so much to do. I mean, yeah, we have a lot of people joining the party now that want to tell us what to do and they don’t want to be part of the organization.

 

So now we’re in a situation where we’re dealing with, well, how are we going to constitutionally frame the party and the organization together? Because there are a lot of people that are looking at the party and going:

 

“Holy shit! This could work!”

 

This not necessarily work in terms of take over the country, but this could become the third biggest party in the country quite quickly, or at least the fourth biggest party in the country quite quickly. This could be the Right-wing’s alternative to the Greens. And we could see One Nation form a coalition with the Liberal Party. But what we’re seeing is so much fracturing on the Right. We’re seeing a real contender on the Right coming out from the hardest possible position and they’re going:

 

“I’m going to get in this early.”

 

But they don’t want to be involved with the community. They don’t want to do the activism, they don’t want to do the push ups in the park, but they might have a good understanding of policy.

 

[1:55:14]

 

 

And so what we’re dealing with at the moment is having that conversation with these people and say:

 

“Hey, look, we’ll take your feedback. You can help advise us.”

 

I mean, depending on their skills, depending on what they are. But if you want to be a decision maker in the party, you have to join the order. And that’s rattling their minds a little bit because they’re used to:

 

“Oh, I joined the Liberal Party and I became the branch leader of the Liberal Party because I won a popularity contest.”

 

Or they join One Nation and same thing:

 

“Oh, I’ve joined this political party and I did this and I joined that political party. I did this.”

 

And then they’re joining our political party and then it doesn’t work like that.

 

And so that’s where we’re trying to balance democracy, which is an innate instinct of the public. They want to have a voice. They want to be involved and engaged in the process. But yeah, but at the same time, we’re a hierarchy. We’re building an order of men that are committed to fixing the country. And you have to be part of that order of men if you want to be within the leadership of the political party, or if you want to run as a candidate, for example.

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good.

 

All right, let me take some of these questions and comments here. Albert, first out the gates. Thank you so much, Albert. Huge dono. He says:

 

“Hi, Henrik. Looking forward to tonight show. Thomas Sewell is always one of my favorite guests. Especially looking forward to hearing his take on the Bondi beach shooting. Great show yesterday too. Take care.”

 

Thank you so much, Albert. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for your incredible support. Derek Rance, good to see you as well. Derek says:

 

“Thanks in advance for the show. It sounds like they are preparing Canada for the next extreme event to tighten the laws here.”

 

I’m sure they are. Good to see you, Derek, as always. Dercherso says:

 

“Good episode, good guest and good takes.”

 

Thank you, dear. Shabir, Gustav says:

 

“Hi Henrik. Finally able to catch the show live for change. Very impressive by Sewell.”

 

Yeah, we all are. Very good:

 

“Keep fighting the good fight, both of you.”

 

Thank you. Archie:

 

“Fascinating information. I missed the beginning. White power!”

 

Well, there you go. Thank you, Archie. Appreciate it. We got Alcion as well. Good to see you. Says:

 

“Happy to see Tom again. My question, Tom, so many of us around the world respect you tremendously and are taking notes from your group’s success. Do you think world jewery is hitting you especially hard because they understand your significance not just nationally, but globally?”

 

And he ends with:

 

“Hail Volk. Hail Red Ice and hail White Australia!”

 

Comments?

 

Thomas Sewell: World jewry has already done 99% of what it can do to us. And so now it’s got one left, one thing left to do to us. And I’m not sure if it’s prepared to do that one last thing. So there’s nothing more that it can do. I don’t have a bank account. I go into the bank, I can’t set one up. Yeah, I’ve been locked in solitary confinement. I’ve been framed, I’ve been imprisoned. You know, I’ve had unjust treatment through the courts. What else?

 

I mean, I’ve lost all the jobs. I can only work for friends now. The only work I can get is from people that are connected to our community, which is why building community is so important. You can’t just run away and hide from doxing for the rest of your life:

 

“I just don’t want to get doxed! I just don’t want to get doxed!”

 

That’s not a solution to the problem. That’s not even a band aid. That’s not even a band aid! Conflict avoidance doesn’t solve the problem.

 

The only way to solve the problem is insular communities, whether that’s big or small. Ideally, the bigger, the better. The bigger it is actually the more protected it is.

 

But we need to have communities. If you only know people on the Internet, you don’t even know their name. You’ve never even met their wife, you don’t even know what they do for work. Because people so worried about getting doxed, like everything’s hush hush, everything’s secret, like that’s the psyop! Not doxing yourself!

 

I mean, what more can the jews do other than kill me or try to kill me? I don’t know. There’s nothing more that they can do. There’s simply nothing that they haven’t already tried and failed. That they cannot stop what is coming. They cannot stop our determination, our will from triumphing. So well, it’s just assassination. That’s all they’ve got left.

 

So, Valhalla, here I come! I don’t care! I’m gonna keep going.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, I mean that’s the spirit you have to have, undoubtedly. And again it’s this is not gonna just go away. These sentiments, this mentality, the problems we’re faced with here and the reality of the situation is not just going to kind of morph into something else tomorrow on the Internet, because that’s a hip new topic to be into or something. I mean, this is not going away.

 

So, yeah, I’m with you. I think this is an inevitable trajectory for, again, I’m not saying the majority of White people, but a substantial enough portion of White people in order to make some real changes and clawing back control of our nations once again. I think it’s going to happen, you know, undoubtedly.

 

[2:00:12]

 

Thomas Sewell: I think it’s intergenerational as well. I think that in Australia this is the first time we’ve probably had an intergenerational movement here in Australia, which shows you how far behind we are from Europe. What I’m talking about is we’ve got the first generation of 18 year olds coming through now whose dads are members of the organization or have been for a long time. You know, so that is kind of embarrassing that it took to the year 2025 to have that.

 

I mean, the Muslims don’t have that issue. Like any Muslim you meet on the street. I’m pretty sure their dads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their granddads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their great granddad’s a Muslim. I’m pretty sure they’ve been organizing politically as Muslims for their entire existence.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: So as White people, we need to have intergenerational White nationalism. That’s the only way we’re going to survive.

 

So we’re finally seeing that now here in Australia. And there’s a lot of power in that. We’ve got young guys that are being brought up in the community and the government fears it, like the government at the moment, the thing that they were talking about the most on the media about us in the lead up to Bondi, before the Bondi thing happened, other than imprisoning me and imprisoning Joel Davis, was the home-schooling network. They are petrified at our home-schooling network! And we don’t even have much of a home-schooling network. It’s just in its infancy. Literally, it’s in its infancy. We’ve mostly got toddlers because most of the men in the organization are young men and we’ve only just started having kids in the last five years. So, we don’t even really have a proper home-schooling network set up. We’re just going with it. We can’t even send our kids to kindergarten anyway because you have to be vaccinated in Australia to send your kid to kindergarten.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a matter of necessity. It’s not just a matter of choice. It’s like even if we wanted to send our kids to kindergarten hypothetically, we actually legally can’t. We’d have to forge documents because our children are not allowed to go to kindergarten.

 

Henrik Palgren: Insane! Yeah. Homeschooling is banned in Sweden. Germany too.

 

Thomas Sewell: Of course.

 

Henrik Palgren: So no option. Incredible! Mr. Marsh Wood says:

 

“Hey, Tom, just want to say thank you for all what you guys are doing. I had a great time at the Victoria seminar and hope to attend more.”

 

He says. Do you have any comments? This was a local, for White Australia, the organization. That’s where you had the Victoria seminar?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we had it in Melbourne. So all the capital cities except for Sydney, New South Wales, had a seminar last weekend. So we’re syncing everything up and we released the policies for the first time on Saturday.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nice. Awesome! Based rat 1488 says:

 

“Hey, Tom, these conspiracy theories are opening the light to show that the jews are at fault for this attack either way, for funding the Australian government to spread multiculturalism in Australia. BR.”

 

Not sure if you have any comments on that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, sure. Of course the jews are behind multiculturalism in Australia. Yes. But I don’t think anyone in the media are talking about that. Like we are talking about it in our circles. But that’s very insulated.

 

And also you have to think tactically about it. You know, you can bring up that point. You can certainly approach that point. It could be considered a good time to approach that point. But the primary thing I believe that the movement needs to focus on when there’s a terror attack by Muslims against predominantly jews at Bondi beach, the primary point we need to come at it is that we don’t want either of these people here, that we want a sovereign country and that multiculturalism and the government are at fault. And yeah, I’m an anti-semite. I’m one of the most outspoken anti-semites in the fucking world! And I’m saying:

 

“Hey, guys, tactically it would be smart if we pile pressure on the government at this point. Like not to give away the tactic. But you gotta join the dog pile.”

 

Everyone’s attacking the government and for the right reasons or sometimes the wrong reasons. But, it’s not just all about, hey, let’s dogpile the jews while they’re being fucking shot. It’s like, look, there’s a time and a place to dogpile the jews, but it’s probably tactically smarter to dogpile the government when the jews are getting shot.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yes. About working with the energy, right? It’s like:

 

“No, no, it’s not the Muslims fault!”

 

You know, I’ve seen that too.

 

And that’s the thing with the:

 

“Well, that’s a false flag. The Manchester bombing was this or that.”

 

Thomas Sewell: These people have never met a Muslim!

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Anyone that’s met a Muslim. Look, I don’t know any Muslims. I’m living quite insular at the moment. But because I’m not allowed to go to a commercial gym. I get banned from every commercial gym I go to, but I don’t care! We’ve got our own gyms, but sometimes I like training at like proper fight gyms. But like some of the boys train at proper fight gyms and they’re saying to me that when it happened, all the Muslims at the fight gym are just like:

 

“Inshallah, brother, more dead jews. This is awesome!”

 

Just like openly in front of Aussies, in front of like multiculturalism. Like they don’t give a fuck l like the Muslims don’t give a fuck! All right. So they say:

 

“Oh this guy’s not a real Muslim!”

 

It’s like:

 

“Nah, you don’t understand where we’re at. It’s not 2000 fucking, … It’s not 1995 anymore. Like those days are fucking gone! It’s fucking race war! Everyone knows it.”

 

 

[2:05:46]

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s right. Ghost Dogman says:

 

“Thomas is a great field expert on the Great War on Whites. I hope to see more from him on Red Ice TV. Free Joel!”

 

That’s right, Ghost Dogman. Thank you. J.C. Henderson, 94 says simply:

 

“Heil Red Ice. Heil Sewell. Thanks for doing what you’re doing.”

 

Well, thank you. Brian. 7316 says:

 

“Hi, and it’s great to see Tom on Red Ice again. He’s an Aussie hero. Like the Sewell’s charge against Antifa. Smiley face.”

 

There you go. Exactly! Very nice. Protector podcast:

 

“Hey Tom, I’m 15 year old from Australia that has been getting really into nationalism and National Socialism. I can’t join the NSN. I’m pretty. I’m a pretty tall and fit guy, at what age can I join?”

 

He’s asking you.

 

Thomas Sewell: As a general rule, we don’t accept applicants under the age of 16. Just as a general rule. Yeah, so.

 

Henrik Palgren: So you have to wait one year. Might just have to wait a year.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And even then between 16 and 18, we’re pretty discriminatory just because we don’t want to risk having someone join under the age of 18 that is a fucking, is an idiot! You know what I mean? We’ve had a lot of issues with people joining and not being honest to their parents.

 

And so we really only accept applicants under 18 now that have a good relationship with their parents. Because what we’ve got now is a whole state infrastructure set up where parents can now basically rat their children to the Stasi. And then it basically the parents can sign away their kid’s life to the government. So you know how like all that shit with like Britney Spears and how her dad like controlled her?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, unfortunately I do remember that. Yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Do you remember all that garbage? Yeah, it’s like it’s got a name to it. I can’t remember what the word is. But basically, if you’re under 18 and you join the Org and your parents are like full blown, like normgroid retards, they can basically call the government and be like:

 

“My son has joined NSN! He’s doing boxing at the park. Is he gonna be a terrorist?”

 

And then like a hysterical retard. And then basically the cops, then you’re just like chilling at home playing Minecraft or Roblox. And then the fucking feds rock up at your house and your parents let them in and then they come into your bedroom, they take your computer, they take your phone, they sit you down for like four hours and abuse you and tell you that you’re being brainwashed by maniacs:

 

“They’re gonna strap bombs to your chest and have you run at Muslims and have them blown up!”

 

And like just the most insane shit! Like some of these young lads that have had this, had to go through this, they’ve recorded the conversation. So I know what these piggies are saying to 16 year olds and how insane they are.

 

And I’ve listened to the most insane conversations where these piggies are saying like just the craziest shit to try to like brainwash these kids. They’re doing exactly what they’re accusing us of doing! They’re literally brainwashing these kids into believing the most insane shit, and then to make it even worse, your parents then sign off and you’ve got to do a de-radicalization course, which means you have a government friend now that comes and buys you KFC once a week and talks to you about your feelings for the next like year and a half. And you just don’t want to go through that! If you don’t have sick cunt parents, just fucking do your push ups, get a trade, finish high school, talk to your mates about this stuff. You know what I mean? And be careful how you talk to your mates about the stuff. Because a lot of guys that have reached out to the org, that aren’t in the org but have reached out and said:

 

“Hey, I’ve been forced to this DeRad thing, do I have to do it?”

 

And we say:

 

“Oh, what happened? Like, we’ve never heard of you. How are you on a DeRad thing?”

 

And they’ve said:

 

“Oh, I was talking about the Holocaust in class. And some kid in my class told the teacher and the teacher called the government and now I’ve got a government friend.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Fuck dude, like, you got to be careful!”

 

But [chuckling] like, the Zoomers aren’t careful. They say crazy shit at school and they don’t realize that the teachers are trained to inform on them, if they say anything remotely like nationalistic. So you got to be very careful if you’re a young guy.

 

But if your parents. Look, if your dad is willing to meet with myself or whoever the state leader is or whoever the region rep is, if your dad’s willing to meet with us, then yes, you can join at whatever age.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: But it’s basically like parental permission because, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: We just can’t be fucked dealing with the government.

 

Henrik Palgren: Like, sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a joke!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. All right.

 

[2:10:32]

 

Thomas Sewell: You can go to Drag Queen Story Hour, of course. Yeah, that’s fine. You can’t join the Nazi boxing club. We will strap a bomb to your chest, apparently, according to police, because that’s happened.

 

Henrik Palgren: I think that answered your second follow up, that Protector podcast too, in terms of what you can do to get involved more in that space.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, talk to your dad. Tell your dad why you want to join and go from there.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And if your dad’s cool with it. What a lot of the dads say to us, because we do have a lot of people under the age of 18 involved and what a lot of the dads say to us is:

 

“I just don’t want them doing activism.”

 

And we say:

 

“That’s cool! Activism isn’t compulsory. It’s not compulsory. He can come and train, but, yeah, he’s not allowed to do activism.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good. Canadian Girl Rumble says:

 

“Much love and support from Canada. Hail Sewell and the NSN!”

 

Thank you, Canadian Girl Rumble. Aussie autist 88, says:

 

“Preferred meal, butter chicken or tikka masala?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Butter chicken. [chuckling]

 

Henrik Palgren: Butter chicken. There you go.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re all going home. [chuckling] But we got the recipe!

 

Henrik Palgren: We got the recipe.

 

Thomas Sewell: Butter chicken is actually an ancient Aryan dish.

 

Henrik Palgren: Probably. Of course it is. Indo Aryan Oziotis again says:

 

“Our faggot ministers have zero vision. Zero vril. They are all so sterile and impotent. The vision of White Australia will go far!”

 

There you go. Thor’s Rune. Yeah, go ahead.

 

Thomas Sewell: Preach racist, preach!

 

Henrik Palgren: There you go.

 

Henrik Palgren: Thor’s Rune:

 

“Great discussion, great points laid out by Thomas. Standing strong for his nation and our people. Activism is no easy task in a politically hostile environment. Hail from SoCal!”

 

Southern California. Holy smokes. Get out of there if you can. Anyway, my condolences, but thank you, Thorstroom. Appreciate that. But the Bearded Indian says:

 

“Why do you think the Muslim retreated to the bridge instead of charging towards the crowds of targets?”

 

Well, he was on a vantage point. It was up high, obviously, so that was his best view, I would assume. What do you think?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, same reason.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: They could cover each other from there.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, because his dad. Didn’t his dad have a shotgun? He was like the one who’s going to take care of there’s someone that’s approaching the son. The main shooter. That’s what he looked like to me anyway, But I’m not sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, and also the dad was fat and slow.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it’s just common sense. But anyway, what a silly question. Bearded Indian usually has good questions.

 

Henrik Palgren: Aussie autistic says:

 

“Hail Odin. Hail victory! Enjoy the solstice. Have a good Yuletide.”

 

Well, thank you. Exactly! That’s coming up here soon. The 21st.

 

Thomas Sewell: You’ve got midsummer this year.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, that’s right. You get Midsummer.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: So do you celebrate it upside down, too? Is that how you do it?

 

Thomas Sewell: We do, yeah. We hang out from the, …

 

Henrik Palgren: The Hanged Man.

 

Thomas Sewell: We hang from the trees.

 

Henrik Palgren: Odin.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, The Upside Down.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nine nights. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I sacrificed myself to myself.

 

Henrik Palgren: One eye patch when Randall Flag says:

 

“Thomas, Australia’s elite are primarily composed of old mining clans. From what I hear, they are the biggest turncoats who sold off your mines to the CCP. How do you propose on retaking your resources?”

 

Interesting question.

 

Thomas Sewell: At bayonet point!

 

Henrik Palgren: What?

 

Thomas Sewell: At bayonet point.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, there we go. Okay, well that explains it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So many people ask me:

 

“How are you going to do this? How are you going to do that?”

 

We’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting small things to hone in on. But I mean, it’s not small, I guess.

 

Thomas Sewell: But yeah, we’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: If there’s a will, I guess. Okay, we got one.

 

Thomas Sewell: The how we’re gonna do it? Well, when we’re close to it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, well, who knows?

 

Thomas Sewell: If you need to know, if you’re part of it, we’ll tell you, will be part of it.

 

Henrik Palgren: You will find out. How about that?

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s so many spectators. Imagine going down to the football match and you’re a spectator and you’re in the crowd. There’s like 10,000 people in the crowd and you’re just shouting at the coach:

 

“How are you gonna get that touchdown? How are you gonna do it?”

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s impossible!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s like:

 

“Shut up!”

 

You want to join the team? I’ll teach you. Join the team and I’ll teach you how we’re going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s right. That’s a good answer.

 

Thomas Sewell: Sitting on the sideline:

 

“How are you going to do this?”

 

All right, we get why democracy is really gay.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, it’s, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Everyone wants a voice but no one wants to do the work. Everyone wants a voice, but no one wants to do it. The way it says, “rights without duties”, that’s the primary issue. So democracy that we’re going to build is “rights and duties”. You’ll get lots of rights, but you got to do the duties! You got to put your time in on the gun. They’re not inalienable:

 

“I’m born so therefore, hahaha, I get everything!”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, that’s how Rome collapsed.”

 

Because that just creates a fat, weak, retarded society. Look what happened to the Romans. They were born with the privilege of being a Roman citizen. They didn’t have to work for it anymore. They have to fight for it! They didn’t have to do any duty. They forgot their own religion, everything. It just deteriorated them, because they forgot how to just put in the work for the race.

 

[2:15:35]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, it’s so hard, right? You get success breeds complacency and comfort. And then out of that it’s so hard to motivate the younger people and the kids specifically, obviously, that grow up in that. Right. They have the abundance, the affluence. It’s extremely hard. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Someone asked me:

 

“How are we going to take back the Commonwealth Bank?”

 

Henrik Palgren: Is [chuckling] that the priority?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, but we’re going to do it. We are going to do it. That’s part of policy too. It’s like we’re just going to take ownership of it:

 

“What do you mean, but how are you going to do it?”

 

We’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Trust the plan. All right, how about that?

 

Thomas Sewell: What do you want? You want me to write like a 300 page essay on, like, how we’re going to manage all the branches?

 

Henrik Palgren: Needed in writing Tom. Right now!

 

Thomas Sewell: How did they sell it? Did the guy that sold it off, did he write a 300 page? He probably did. Knowing democracy.

 

Henrik Palgren: Legalese wise. Yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, they just sold it to their mates. They just got rid of it. They just sold it to their mates. They just had friends. And now it’s 1.3 trillion in the private sector and it was a state asset. They just gave it to their mates.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. Of course!

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re just going to take it back!

 

Henrik Palgren: When do they do that by the way?

 

Thomas Sewell: 1996.

 

Henrik Palgren: 96, okay, interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: They just gave it to their mates. That’s what they did. They gave it to their mates. They gave it to their jewish mates.

 

Henrik Palgren: Of course. Okay, we got one more here. Alufaltruda, if I say that correctly:

 

“What would you say to men who want to participate in the inner activism part of White Australia but aren’t yet physically fit? Would you allow fat guys or twigs to join the park training?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we have fat guys and skinny guys at training. Yeah, we do. Like the fitness testing is not:

 

“Hey, you can’t hang out with us, associate with us or train with us if you don’t pass this testing.”

 

That’s not how the testing works. The testing works is we’ve got a hierarchy where you don’t become an official member. There’s like a process where you go through like an initiation phase, like the bikies would call it, like a prospecting phase, like at work it might be called a trainee phase. You go through your apprenticeship, you go through like a trainee phase where you do six months and then you get promoted and you do another six months and you get promoted. But at those promotions you have to meet certain fitness standards.

 

So there’s some guys that have been in the org three years and they haven’t been promoted because they have never worked on their fitness. They just come once a month, they hang out, they stand at the barbecue, they have a cigarette and you know what I mean, it’s like they’re a minority. They’re in the minority. There’s only a couple guys that do that it’s not a good culture if there was a whole bunch doing it. But when it’s just a couple guys coming down, they can keep an eye on things. They can do a bit of security, they can check license plates, they can help with the vetting. You know, they can be part of other operations that not everyone has to train.

 

But again, it is what it is. Different horses. We got Sausage Turners we got security guards, we got all sorts of people.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right, the Bearded Indian has a second go here. I guess he must do a better question.

 

Thomas Sewell: Let’s go round two.

 

Henrik Palgren: NSN must publicize the shit out of this. Every politician who promoted diversity is responsible for the mass murder. Job for the clippers to tether those politicians face together.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, absolutely! Yeah. Now the online warfare is really important. And I mean the politicians, their reaction, I mean Burke, Marles and Albo, they are shaking! They are shaking in their boots. You can hear it in their voice. They got gay lisps. I mean, it is embarrassing!

 

I mean, there’s one video. You got to play it quickly. You got to play it quickly. I’ll find it, I’ll send it. I’ll DM it to you.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: You’ve got to play this video. Oh, it is embarrassing!

 

Henrik Palgren: I’ll take the other one here.

 

Thomas Sewell: This is Australia’s Defense Minister.

 

Henrik Palgren: Find that there.

 

Thomas Sewell: I found it. I found it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, yeah, send it to me. I’ll pull it up here.

 

Thomas Sewell: Check your DMs. You got to play this video.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, it’s through. Okay, let me save that down real quick there then. We’ll get that one.

 

Of course I got some, the Rumble channel up in the meantime here as well. Well, I download that for White Australia. You guys are obviously on the main website. There is WhiteAustralia.org or simply WhiteAus. I think you can go to as well, dot org to get to the website.

 

[2:19:54]

 

Thomas Sewell: They both redirect. There’s a whole bunch of things that redirect to White Australia.org.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, here we go. Let’s see if that downloaded here. I’m going to import that down properly. Doesn’t seem like it hopefully works. No file format. Oh, it’s still downloading. It’s slow as hell! Okay. Also in the meantime that. Well, I’m just waiting for that. Just be a couple of seconds. There’s a Telegram page obviously for White Australia as well. Then you have your personal one. Tom Sewell uncensored on Telegram. Any other social media links website where people can, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I got a Gab. Thomas underscore Sewell. But I just don’t use it. I need to, but I just keep forgetting. But Gab feels pretty dead lately. I don’t know. We’re banned from Twitter.

 

Next year I’m gonna try to get on Twitter and Instagram and just see how long I last. But we’re going to launch the policy parties first. I’ve got a list of priorities and then I’m going to just do like I’m going to spam videos and social media stuff and if I get a week, I’ll be really happy.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, here’s the clip. It’s down on Defense Minister Richard Marles. Here’s his comments. Check it out.

 

Sky News: Do you feel like there needs to be and should there be a greater emphasis on hate speech from Muslim clerics in the Western part of Sydney?

Richard Marles: I think. Look, I think as I said earlier, what we’ve done is criminalize more forms of hate speech, and we’ve criminalized the Nazi salute. Obviously that’s in its own context, but we need to be looking at all of this. And it is really important that we have., …

Sky News: So should there be a greater emphasis on this hate speech from Muslim clerics, then?

Richard Marles: I don’t want to. We will go through all of this. I emphasize that we have done more in terms of criminalising hate speech than we have seen from any other government. But we need to look at all of this and we need to make sure that we’ve got the right laws in place and that we are doing everything we can to keep safe that the vibrant multicultural society, …

 

Henrik Palgren: There it is! [chuckling] There it is! Oh, my gosh! All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Please, please, Yahweh, send me your gayest, most retarded enemies. [chuckling]

 

Henrik Palgren: That is funny!

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s Defense Minister of Australia, a gay retard!

 

Henrik Palgren: He seems genuinely rattled!

 

Thomas Sewell: Tony Burke has got like this high pitched, I’ve never heard his voice go high pitch before. Tony Burke is like. He’s got like the fear complex at the moment when the media are asking questions. And he got booed. He came down to the memorial and the jews all booed him. And this is the guy that deported a neo-Nazi for the jews! And the jews are booing him.

 

Henrik Palgren: Doesn’t matter. Yep, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: You deports Nazis, but you didn’t deport the Muslims.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, they do that right, though. And it sounds like:

 

“Yeah, you’ve been very good. You did this great. We’re very happy!”

 

No, at that point, you have the opportunity to push really hard to get just much more of what you want. And how do you want the politicians to act for you on behalf of you? They know how to do that. Okay, we got two more here, Tom, before we let you go here. Line Crosses said:

 

“The police must have had so many angles on those shooters. Shooters were exposed, evident by the many camera angles on them. Sloppy.”

 

I mean, I heard one rabbi there, they interviewed him was like:

 

“It must have been 20 minutes.”

 

Or something. And it’s like. I don’t think it was 20 minutes. It probably felt like 20 minutes for the people that were there. But five maybe, I don’t know, maybe 10, I don’t know.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, it was almost 10. It was almost 10 minutes. Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Which is a long time.

 

Thomas Sewell: Which is way too long. Like Bondi, the traffic’s bad, but there’s always cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve never not seen cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve always seen police at Bondi beach, usually in teams of two or teams of four.

 

So the fact that it took 10 minutes to get to the shooting, to resolve the shooting, and took probably I don’t know, five minutes to get there. There’s video footage of cops driving past the bridge. So they had an angle to shoot out the window up that bridge. There’s cops driving past and they didn’t stop. They just kept going. So, yeah, despicable!

 

But fat Chungus. Not the Chungus that arrested Joel, but another Chungus was the one that got the killer shot on the dad. Really small Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. There’s footage of the Chungus. There was a fat Chungus cop that got the shot off. So he wasn’t a beat cop. He was in a suit. So that just shows you know, there’s cops in dress shirts walking around, right?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

[2:24:50]

 

Thomas Sewell: How did he get there? How did he get there before the cops that were in uniform. He’s not wearing a bulletproof vest either.

 

So the cop that got the shot off was just a fat Chungus from the office that might have been just getting lunch. I don’t know the story yet. But another interesting thing that I forgot to mention was the media, because a whole bunch of lifeguards tried to assist in the process as well. And there was lifeguards that were there on the scene before the cops got there, as well as the Aussies that just like stomped the two guys on the ground on the bridge. But there was a guy trying to read out the names of the lifeguards that had helped save people’s lives. And helped try to deal with it. And the media wouldn’t let this guy read out the names of the lifeguards. Because the media here in Australia, all they’re saying on the news is just:

 

“Look at this brown guy that saved the day! Look at this jewish guy that saved the day. Look at all these heroes of multiculturalism!”

 

And it’s like, they won’t read out the names. And they’re like:

 

“His name was Al Hamid Muhammad!”

 

And then they just say it like 20 times.

 

So, yeah, you turn on the news and it’s like:

 

“And the hero was Al Hamid Muhammad!”

 

And it’s just, on repeat, on repeat, on repeat!

 

And it’s like, they wouldn’t let a guy read out the names of the lifeguards that tried to help because it’s like Ben Stewart, Thomas Stevens. You know what I mean?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, exactly! Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: All Aussie names.

 

Henrik Palgren: I mean, the solution, therefore, is:

 

“Let’s bring in a million more Muslims to protect us from the Muslims!”

 

Right? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: We need migrants to stop us from migrants!

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly! See, the good ones cancel out the bad ones, I guess, but they kill White Australians in the process, obviously. Yeah. People are asking chat here:

 

“What’s a chungus? Chubby, thick, large?”

 

Is that the definition?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Chungus is like a big fat chungus. You know, like a Big Chungus. It was like, I’ll just Google it. Big chungus. They don’t know the Big Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s like the, … Bugs Bunny! Exactly! Yeah, that’s the bunny. Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: If you don’t know the Big Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: Home of the Brave says:

 

“The most white pilling is listening to Tom Sewell. Absolutely no one wants to step up in America, so I guess I’m gonna have to do it!”

 

Well, that’s the spirit. That is not true, by the way. But that’s the spirit obviously. If you don’t think anyone does, then, yeah, you do it:

 

“Thanks for giving me hope and vectorizing the Vril.”

 

Hail home of the brave.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I get a lot of DMs from Americans and they all want to be Australia’s Thomas Sewell. Sorry, America’s Thomas Sewell. I get a lot of DMs. I get a lot of people unsolicited in the DMs on Telegram and they’re like:

 

“Check out my page, Tom. I’m the next Thomas Sewell!”

 

And then I check out the page and it’s got two subscribers. And I’m like:

 

“Dude, I’m not going to be your third subscriber. I’m sorry, you’re going to have to put your time on the gun. You have to build up a bit of a following yourself.”

 

They’re like:

 

“Tom, can you share my page? I’m America’s Thomas Sewell!”

 

No, you’re not. You’re unfortunately not. I’m sorry.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, we got another Thomas. Does a good job. Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s Hammer. There’s all sorts of guys. There’s lots of guys in America. There’s a lot of guys that are not necessarily like doxed, like not name fagging, as they say on the chins. There’s a lot of guys that just, they just put in the work. They just build the active club or they build their organization. You know, they just put their folk first and they do it without the glory. And yeah, also a little bit off topic. I was in jail, so no one told me. No one told me Chris Cantwell’s a faggot! What the fuck happened? What the fuck is going on?

 

Henrik Palgren: I don’t wanna, …

 

Thomas Sewell: He sent me a message like a week ago. He’s like:

 

“Hey, man, can you share this post for me?”

 

And I’m like, I didn’t say:

 

“Yeah, all right.”

 

But I was like, in my head:

 

“Yeah, all right.”

 

But I always read everything first before I share. Always. And I’m like scrolling through and it was like something about gay sex. And I was like:

 

“Hang on a minute. What the fuck!”

 

And then I read it again and I replied to him:

 

“Chris, what the fuck are you talking about?”

 

And then I sent it to the boys and they’re like:

 

“Yeah, bro, did you not know?”

 

I was like:

 

“No one told me. I was in prison. No one told me!”

 

And then I went through his page and he was like:

 

“When I was 14, I had sex with a man. He wasn’t attractive.”

 

It’s like:

 

“What the fuck Chris, you fucking weird cunt!”