Tim Murdoch: This is Tim Murdoch. You’re watching WhiteRabbitRadio live in Game Exotica, the interview series. We have on Blair Cottrell. He will be on hopefully for almost a whole show, but most likely only half a show because he’s on a phone and all these, I guess we can say foreign run convenience stores don’t have the right cord for him.

 

So his phones might run out of charge on us and probably will. So get your questions in. We’re here to talk about Joel Davis and things going on over in Australia. Joel can’t be on because of his crazy bail.

 

So how you doing, Blair?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m doing fine, man! It’s nice and early here. Not that early. What is it, like 8 o’ clock in the morning? But rolled out of bed, frantically searched for the local convenience stores with friendly local neighborhood Indians. Trying to find the Right charger cord. And I bought one not to let you guys down, but then it’s the wrong one. So we’re just gonna have to see how long this lasts.

 

But the reason I’m in a hotel is because a friend and I traveled from Melbourne to Sydney last night. It’s like a nine hour drive. Australia is a big country like America, but when you factor in the couple of stops to get fuel, it ends up being like 10 or 11 hours. And we did that to visit Joel. First time I’ve seen Joel since he’s been released from prison. Been released on bail about a week ago, just less than a week ago.

 

He’s got stacked of new charges on him. He was initially. If you guys don’t know the story, Joel’s someone I stream with down here. Joel Davis, political commentator and streamer from Australia. He was charged with offending a politician [Allegra Spender], harassing or offending a politician in a Telegram post for a comment he made in a Telegram post that was posted to his public channel. And he was held in isolation as a “national security threat” for the last four months. He was finally released on bail by a Supreme Court justice, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of New South Wales. But he had to pay a lot of money to get there. I think he raised maybe 40,000 from his supporters to get to that point to be released on bail from the Supreme Court. But I think he’s like down to his last 4,000 now.

 

So that’s how much it’s cost him just to get bail for a relatively not less than serious charge. It’s not really a serious charge. It typically carries a pretty low imprisonment rate. I think 6.5% of people that get charged with the same offense that Joel’s been charged with actually end up going to jail at all! So almost 95% of people that get charged with this don’t even go to jail at all! Joel hasn’t even been found guilty yet. He’s not even been convicted. He’s just been accused! But he was held in prison because he’s considered a “national security threat” due to his ideology and various opinions that he shares while he’s streaming.

 

So I had dinner with him last night, and he hasn’t changed at all! If anything, he’s, like, sharper and clearer and even more intelligent than he was before. It’s not surprising because when you sit in jail for a while, you’re removed from all of the petty distractions and the quote, unquote, “degeneracy” of normal society, and all you can really do is read and write. And when you do that for four months straight, you come out quite sharp and clear.

 

So, yeah, he’s in great spirits. He’s very happy to be home. Very grateful to everyone who supported him. He is. Everybody who made it possible for him to get bail, who pitched into the fundraiser. That was huge! But yeah, we had a good laugh. We had some food. He’s feeling good. So that’s where he’s at right now!

 

But he’s banned from the Internet.

 

The reason I have to speak for him, I guess, or update you guys, is Joel is banned from the Internet! Okay? He can’t even have a smartphone, guys. The judge has ruled that he has to have an old brick phone that can’t access the Internet. He’s allowed to access the Internet by computer, but he can’t post anything to social media. He can’t comment on anything, and he can’t have access to the Internet from his phone. Those are his bail conditions imposed by the Supreme Court Justice.

 

Tim Murdoch: Can we petition? Can I pay a lawyer to petition to get him on WhiteRabbitRadio? I wonder how funny that would be. How would that go?

 

Blair Cottrell: I doubt it.

 

Tim Murdoch: I think they’d probably throw him back in jail or something, right? Try to throw me in jail, maybe.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Tim Murdoch: But anyways. I think that’s kind of funny, though. Well, it’s funny that they’re going to that extreme, but they’re just trying to make an example out of him, and they did. Is there any precedents for trying to keep him off the Internet or denying his civil, … This is denying his Civil Liberties in a modern, …

 

Blair Cottrell: We don’t really have., …

 

Tim Murdoch: Denying him the public square. I mean, he can’t come on a radio show and talk about his case. He can’t have a smartphone and post to his Telegram. Even if he’s not violating, … Telegram is not illegal in Australia. It’s not illegal for him to post on Telegram. It’s just illegal for him to say certain things which they’re constantly trying not to specifically define.

 

[07:18]

 

Blair Cottrell: There is some precedent. Look, this demonstrates the bail conditions imposed on Joel basically being banned from the Internet because the accusation against him stems from a post made on the Internet.

 

And so while the matter is still active and a conviction is yet to be found bail conditions preventing him from using the Internet. This kind of thing demonstrates the disparity between Australia and America. We don’t have Civil Liberties. We don’t have free speech rights down here. Like, so no one has the rights to be criticizing any government official, really. As long as you’re not being overly belligerent. You might be able to, but depending on the language you used, you can be charged with menacing or harassing or maybe something else. It’s getting quite tight down here, especially in recent years. But there’s been a significant shift in the past six months or so.

 

I mean, last year, after our most significant or our worst terror attack in the country’s history occurred on Bondi beach in New South Wales, a couple of Muslim characters opened fire on people on a beach specifically targeting jewish people. I think it was at a jewish festival of some sort. It’s like certain government bureaucrats were so disappointed that the shooters weren’t White guys that they just unleashed on Joel Davis! It’s like the Eye of Sauron was just completely focused on Joel Davis. And Joel’s, like, really surprised by it. When we were eating dinner last night, he was laughing! He’s like:

 

“How is this real? Like, I just posted one thing to Telegram and I’m being treated worse than the actual terrorist who shot those guys on the beach. I’ve been banned from the Internet!”

 

He’s almost struggling. He’s laughing at it, but he’s almost struggling to wrap his head around the logistics of it. And it doesn’t actually make sense.

 

So there is some precedent for people being restricted from using the Internet in a certain way if their accusation relates to something on the Internet in Australia. But the major point to consider is its very different from America. Here, basically, you can be just held indefinitely while your matter is being argued without any proof of guilt. You’re essentially guilty until you try to pay enough to prove yourself innocent. You know, so the whole concept of “innocent until proven guilty”, it exists in legal theory, but in practice it doesn’t exist because you get accused of something and then you sit in jail until the matter is finalized in court, until you pay enough money to prove your innocence, or do a deal and get out somehow.

 

So that’s how it really works.

 

Tim Murdoch: He can talk with his friends, he can talk with you and go to dinner with you. Not a problem. What he’s restricted from like former NSN because that’s been disbanded. For instance, if Tom comes and sees him, can he see Tom?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m pretty sure he can, but the thing is, Tom has also been charged with a number of offenses which confine him to his state. And Joel resides in a different state right now, the neighboring state.

 

So you can’t cross state boundaries legally while you’re on bail for these offenses. And Joel can’t leave the state either.

 

Tim Murdoch: They basically have to have their cases done with, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: Correct. Yeah. So they can move through states freely again. And that’s very standard for any sort of indictable criminal offense for which you’re on bail. You’re not supposed to leave the state without permission. So technically they could call the police and say:

 

“Look, I want to go interstate to visit my friend and come straight back. Can I do that?”

 

But it just comes down to the whim of some police bureaucrat whether or not you can actually do that.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. Not a free country! But none of us live in a free country. Just some more than others at the moment, maybe. When does this, how long. What is the next step for him? How long will this take before he can get to court? Because now he’s released on bail. But the matters are still pending. These guys have all kinds of matters pending, technically, I guess.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. While Joel was in what’s called Long Bay Jail, New South Wales, in isolation, being held without conviction as a national security risk, he was hit with something like nine other charges, or more than that.

 

I can’t remember what he said. There’s a whole bunch of other charges.

 

Tim Murdoch: Are they more or less serious charges? I remember this, but when it comes to these Australia charges these charges are serious, but they’re not doing it. I mean, these guys really aren’t doing anything! They’re just hitting crazy charges over Telegram posts or crazy charges for getting into an argument with the shitlibs or it’s just total insanity!

 

But nonetheless, the charges are there and the charges are very serious on the books. And the police treat them like these are major criminal offenses and terrorists and so on and so forth.

 

Blair Cottrell: Typically, for this kind of thing, the police wouldn’t usually get out of bed for something like what Joel posted on Telegram, it’s just because of his ideology. And that was more or less admitted by the court system in the magistrates level of court, which is a lower level of a state court in Australia. Magistrates were just like:

 

“Look, usually bail would apply, but because of his ideological connections and the sensitivity around that, given this recent terror attack, he needs to be held in prison.”

 

Basically. That’s what they were essentially saying.

 

But look, all of the charges that Joel has, I think there’s beyond nine of them right now! Nine or ten or maybe even more. They’re all in relation to streaming. Okay. They’re from things. I think he has six charges from one stream! From the things he said about other ethnic groups.

 

[13:05]

 

Tim Murdoch: These are streams with you? These are streams with Americans or you don’t know?

 

Blair Cottrell: Stream with me. Yeah, well, it was just a stream out of Australia with me. The one in question. The’s being charged with a number of offenses relating to “inciting contempt or revulsion of a specific class of people”, which is relatively new legislation under Australia’s Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

 

Tim Murdoch: This is saying something about jews, probably.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, one I think is comments about jewish people. One is about Indian people and the other is about black people.

 

And all of the comments, there’s like six different charges I think, if my memory serves me right. But I know he’s definitely been charged a bunch of times in relation to one stream. And here’s the thing man, and this is what’s super interesting.

 

You probably heard Nick Fuentes have a crack at Joel and say:

 

“He’s just a Wignat. This was always going to happen to this guy. What an idiot! Whatever.”

 

But Joel has been charged for essentially being a groiper and streaming, like doing exactly what Nick Fuentes does.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, but he’s in Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s been charged for what he’s saying in streams, and then directing his followers to criticize politicians on X. He’s been charged with doing the same thing. Americans have the freedom to do this apparently, but we don’t.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, Nick actually said something that over his sentencing after the fact. But nonetheless, he can be on all sides of the ball, depending on who’s on his nerves on any given day.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think Nick’s great value. When he initially, his comments were:

 

“Oh, this was always going to happen to Joel!”

 

But I think when you look at the charges, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Liek:

 

“The charge this is bullshit!”

 

Or something. I forget what he said.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, it’s bullshit when you look at the charges. Initially, you’re like:

 

“Okay, Joel was pretty loose!”

 

Everyone can agree that Joel was pretty loose. He was going pretty hard.

 

When you look at what he’s actually being charged with doing. What he’s actually being charged for doing is basically the same thing that Nick does for a living. And you’re like:

 

“What? Hang on, it doesn’t., …”

 

Like I said, it demonstrates the difference legally between Australia and America, and it demonstrates how important it is to have legislation, constitutional rights to freedom of speech, because this is what happens when you don’t have that.

 

Tim Murdoch: Fascinating. So how long will this take before all this particular case is over with and all these other cases. What’s the lineup like?

 

Blair Cottrell: I’d imagine he’s got 12 to 18 months of court appearances, but his next move will be to, at his own convenience, try to get all of the charges heard in bulk in one or two matters, so he doesn’t have to go to court for every single different offense.

 

Tim Murdoch: It’s all the same.

 

Blair Cottrell: Otherwise. It’s just too, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Him running his mouth. It’s all the same stuff. Him live streaming and talking.

 

Blair Cottrell: And there’s the Telegram post, which is a different category of offending, but similar still. And there’s a bunch of other offenses in relation to other things he said. He’s even being charged in relation to private messages he’s had. Because when the police. This is what I forgot to mention. When the police arrested him, the Federal Police, they took his phone, they went through everything, and he’s been making jokes with friends in private conversations that he’s been charged for. Like, literal private conversations that were never public. Because he’s mentioned people specifically in some of those, like, comments, which was all in jest mostly because when you’re talking to the boys, you think it’s private. You say stuff. You say stuff that you don’t think other people would see. But the police have gone through all of it. And he’s got charges in relation to private DMs as well.

 

Tim Murdoch: That’s, its such bullshit! None of these politicians could hold up to those standards. And it’s absurd! But nonetheless, it’s something he’s going through. I remember his fundraiser. I remember putting up and his fundraiser was doing well. Does he have enough money for court? You guys have some good lawyers these days compared to like 10 years ago.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, 10 years ago I was relying on the sympathy, … When I was charged with “hate speech”, I was relying on the sympathy of one lawyer, one lawyer slash barrister, like performing two roles. And I paid him as much as I could, but it was never quite enough. These days there’s a lot more resources available, there’s a lot more sympathy internationally. And the lawyers that Joel has access to, the barrister he used at the Supreme Court, all very professional, top tier stuff. And having access to that for him right now is like indispensable!

 

Tim Murdoch: Plus, there was no such thing as, like GiveSendGo or anything like that, back in the day. There was no crypto.

 

Blair Cottrell: Shout out to GiveSendGo too, by the way. Like just standing strong in the face of all the pressure they must receive from governments around the world and saying:

 

“Look, we believe in free speech. If these people want to raise money, they’re not doing anything illegal. They can raise money.”

 

Like most platforms, most fundraiser platforms would not do that. So GiveSendGo, they’re top notch.

 

[18:26]

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I haven’t checked out his fundraiser. I’m assuming it’s still going or I know he hit his goal. That’s all I remember.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think maybe he was saying to me last night that he’s nearly spent at all! Just to get bail.

 

Tim Murdoch: I would imagine.

 

Blair Cottrell: But, I don’t know the details of when he goes to court next and what’s going to be necessary. So once that is known, I’ll help get the information out there and we’ll see what we can do to keep helping him.

 

Tim Murdoch: Okay. And Tom as well. Right. And who else? I know that there’s other guys charged, correct?

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, there’s a bunch of guys with a bunch of charges. I don’t even know how many. I think the point, obviously is you’re probably understanding Tim. I think the point is just to bog you down.

 

The point is like to just throw this hooked net, this hooked net of just legal nonsense over you that you get entangled in for years. You spend your energy on it, you spend your money on it. And that just kind of holds you back from activism, politics and what you really care about. And that’s the way the Australian government deals with its dissidents.

 

Tim Murdoch: The “process is the punishment”, as they say over here. That’s the whole entire deal. You might get off because it’s all bullshit, but you’re going to have to go through money and it’s all big pain in the ass.

 

Hopefully everyone comes out smarter and more clever. But nonetheless, it sounds like he’s in good spirits. And now this particular program where you can’t be on a smartphone or anything like that, that’ll continue until that particular or trial is over?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think the intent generally, because he has 20 bail conditions, I think, that’s more bail conditions than I’ve ever heard anyone having! Even like the worst criminals don’t get that. I think that the Supreme Court Justice probably just wanted to demonstrate that she was taking everything seriously. She wasn’t just releasing him willy nilly. She wanted to demonstrate to the (((right people))) that she still considers him very threatening. Whatever.

 

Tim Murdoch: Why did he have to be released to his mother and not his wife and kid?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, this is the funny, this is a weird thing. He’s been banned from Bondi, where his partner lives. And that’s public knowledge now because the media, like doxed her ages ago and, …

 

Tim Murdoch: Right.

 

Blair Cottrell: Literally took a photo on there. Yeah, she was coming out the front of her house. They literally was waiting for her, taking a photo, which I don’t know how that’s legal, is that stalking? The media seems to be able to do whatever they want here. So I don’t know.

 

Tim Murdoch: She’s being a public person now. But they do celebrities. Where there is no decorum, there is no decency in the societies we live in anymore.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a good way to put it. Right. And that’s how it feels, definitely!

 

But in Bondi, that’s where the terror attack happened against members of the jewish community. And because of Joel’s public statements considered anti-semitic and because there’s a considerable population of jewish people living in Bondi, that seems to be the reason he’s been banned from that whole suburb. He can’t go to that suburb!

 

Despite the fact that his partner and child live there. And that was his previous residence. That’s where he lived as well. He can’t go home. He’s not allowed to go there because jews live there!

 

Tim Murdoch: Can they come and see him? Can they come to his mother?

 

Blair Cottrell: They can visit him, but I think it’s like an hour’s drive or something, so there’s a bit of a distance to travel. But they have visited him regularly since he’s been out. He’s building a relationship with his son:

 

“My son seems to like me. He’s happy when I hold him.”

 

Is what Joel said:

 

“You know, my son likes me.”

 

So that’s good news. It was just good to see him last night Tim. He’s happy. He’s the same old Joel, but kind of sharper and more energetic than ever!

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I know that when he first got in, it was really bad! Right. Did he have any stories from jail that he told you?

 

Blair Cottrell: So many! Too many to get into. It was really funny because even though he’s in isolation, he’s in isolation with other guys in other cells who can all talk to each other through the vents and the walls.

 

Tim Murdoch: Okay.

 

Blair Cottrell: And so, yeah, he met some very interesting characters. Very funny stories. Probably the funniest thing that I could share without stepping on any toes or upsetting anybody. I didn’t know this. I assumed that when Joel was arrested by the Federal Police in Australia, when he was arrested, he was arrested at a cafe while he was eating breakfast. And because it was just down the road from where his partner lives, I assumed that his partner was at the cafe with him.

 

But that wasn’t the case. He said to his girlfriend, who was due to give birth to their baby the next day, he said:

 

“Babe, I’m going to get breakfast. I’ll see you later!”

 

And he never came back! [chuckling] The day before his girlfriend was due. So she was probably sitting at home thinking:

 

“Has he ditched me? What the fuck?”

 

The timing of that [chuckling] was really ironic and funny. Like when he told the story.

 

[23:40]

 

Tim Murdoch: I remember him getting arrested. I didn’t know it was a restaurant. I didn’t know where it was at. I just remember seeing him getting arrested, the picture. I wonder what he was eating that morning?

 

Blair Cottrell: And I think even the cafe owner made a comment to the media, because the media rushed into the cafe, the breakfast cafe, and asked a bunch of questions and even asked:

 

“What was he eating?”

 

I think he was eating smashed avocado on toast. That was his last meal. That was his last meal! But look like credit where credit’s due. The police actually went, Joel said:

 

“Can you at least tell my girlfriend what’s happened? Because she’s going to think I just ran away!”

 

So [chuckling] the police actually went and knocked on the door and said:

 

“Yo, just so you know, we arrested your boyfriend. That’s why he’s not coming home.”

 

Tim Murdoch: It seemed like the media was there as he was arrested, which is kind of shady. They must have known about it or something. Or did they?

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t think so. I think the footage of him being arrested comes from police body cam footage. Okay, maybe. I think they all have cameras on their chests and these days it’s part of procedure to actually document high profile arrests and stuff like that. So I think that’s where that footage came from. And the media rushed there after the fact.

 

Tim Murdoch: Fascinating. Okay, did he have any words of advice? Is he full of advice and knowledge now?

 

Blair Cottrell: He’s definitely acknowledging that there’s a shift in what is going to be possible in Australian political discourse in the future. Okay, that’s probably the best advice. He hasn’t given any advice directly, but this is what I’m projecting to you guys as what I think is probably the best advice given the situation. Joel’s acknowledging pretty much openly that the stuff they were doing before, stuff him and the NSN were doing, the kind of activism they were doing, has essentially been made a “hate crime”. It’s illegal now to openly criticize the jewish community is basically illegal in Australia now. You can’t do that.

 

And so you need to approach discourse in a way that appreciates that new reality. And Joel’s acknowledging that, everyone’s acknowledging that’s why the NSN has disbanded, to prevent their members from going to jail for 10 years for being a member of a hate group.

 

So that chapter of the NSN, the way it was, is done. And a new chapter in Australian political discourse is opening. But what that’s going to look like isn’t clear yet because the laws that have been imposed are so extreme, no one’s sure what’s going to be allowed and what’s not. And it’s going to come down to the whim of political bureaucrats.

 

Tim Murdoch: Sounds like a bunch of bullshit, that’s for sure! Let me get to a Superchat because this one’s for you, actually:

 

“Happy to hear of Joel’s release.”

 

Thank you White Bitch Triple Six. What a handle she has, eh? See what we’ve got here. Okay, up here:

 

“Happy to hear of his release. Hope him and his family, …”

 

Let me get this right here:

 

“Hope him and his family are doing well despite these bogus charges. Wondering if Blair does one on one fitness consultations. I would pay for an hour of his fitness wisdom.”

 

Actually, I think you have something going down that particular line. You’re lining up websites and stuff like that and that’s something you do know about, but go ahead.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, thanks for asking. I do provide. That’s what I do to support myself. And I think I’m pretty good at it. I can basically solve your problems in that regard. And I try to offer a lot more than most people do and I’m very pretty passionate about that. You’ll have to DM me on either Telegram or Instagram at the moment because I’m still setting up a more convenient way for contact. And that’s nearly finished.

 

But if you’re keen to get onto it straight away, just send me a DM on Telegram. It’s at Blair Cottrell. Just my full name. Or you can find me through my main channel, which is at Real Blair Cottrell. And that’s what I do. I help people burn fat and build muscle. I’ve been doing it a while.

 

Tim Murdoch: You can also email me White Bitch Triple six, since I know who you are and I will put up his information because I have all of it. I’ll send it back to you in an email if you didn’t get any of that or you need to know how to get a hold of him. I’ll try to hook you two up.

 

But yeah, that’s what he does. But go ahead, finish.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s fine. I appreciate it, Tim. Cheers. That’s basically. There’s not a lot more to say.

 

But before the show started, you were asking me about Ben Roberts Smith, the veteran who was recently arrested. That’s a big deal in Australia too, guys! Like this is like a huge deal! This guy Ben Robert Smith, if you don’t know, he’s like a 6 foot 7 chad, Special Forces SAS, Australian army veteran who in Afghanistan was basically responsible for rescuing his colleagues, which he was very good at doing. He’s known for storming significant numbers of enemy troops on his own and somehow winning! This guy’s like basically being hailed as a war hero ever since the war in Afghanistan. There’s certain situations where Australian troops were betrayed by members of the local army or police who offered to kill them in exchange for doing a deal with the Taliban at the time. And they were pinned down by enemy fire, they were betrayed, they were murdered in their sleep. And Ben Robert Smith was the guy who hunted those guys down to save any colleagues that had been captured or pinned down.

 

[29:18]

 

Tim Murdoch: He was in some type of anti-terror squad?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think SAS is kind of like a Special Forces or like a more serious, … I don’t know exactly! Tom Sewell would be much better explaining.

 

Tim Murdoch: I can tell you what the problem was in Afghanistan is that there was a continuous issue on the rules of engagement, where someone could fire at you, throw a grenade at you, throw a bomb at you, or do something like that. Then they would make sure the village they were hiding in they would drop the gun, run back to the village. They would basically make sure that they were unarmed at all times because you couldn’t really do anything with an unarmed individual. It became like a police operation for a lot of different guys. But there was various different teams hunting these guys down. Yeah, playing these games. It was very nasty!

 

Blair Cottrell: It was. And that’s the thing. Basically the Australian army was in Afghanistan supposed to be hunting terrorists, terror networks, members of terror cell groups, but they basically had an arm tied behind their back and their feet bound at most cases. Like they couldn’t actually do their job properly because the rules of engagement kept changing. You just described it in a great way. They would like fire on Australian soldiers, then drop their rifles and act like they were just citizens.

 

Tim Murdoch: Well, this was a problem. This is a problem with my friends that were there from America. So no, this is what they were doing. They were feathering or floating the rules of engagement, terrorists were to make sure that:

 

“Well, they can’t kill me because I’m unarmed.”

 

When they just basically killed one of their friends, you know, an hour for something like that they were constantly playing these games where they became a policing operation. You have to go in and fingerprint them and try to prove the crime. It was a fucking mess, it wasn’t a war, basically.

 

Blair Cottrell: Look the big drama is one of our war heroes from that time, from that era, from Afghanistan. The main one who became a bit of an icon was Ben Robert Smith. But there’s this huge, complex investigation that’s taken place behind the scenes, headed up by I think a combination of media and the Australian Federal Police, they’ve like sent people over to Afghanistan to try to get statements to use against their own soldiers. And the name Ben Robert Smith, that’s the one they kept targeting. There was a defamation case initially against media bureaucrats, specifically a journalist named Nick McKenzie who called Ben Robert Smith a war criminal without evidence. So Ben Robert Smith took him to court and said:

 

“That’s slander, I’m not a war criminal, I’ve got all these medals, what the hell?”

 

But the courts ruled in the favor of the media and they said:

 

“Well look, it could be true, so we don’t know the truth, so it’s not slander.”

 

So it’s like it basically just demonstrates that journalists can say whatever they want about anyone in Australia without any real basis. But now, a year or two after that finding, he’s actually been charged with five war crimes. With apparently either shooting people or commanding his comrades to shoot people who weren’t actually soldiers, weren’t Taliban or weren’t connected. That’s the accusation.

 

But this is the thing, guys, whether he’s guilty or not isn’t really what matters. What matters is the ripple effect that this has on our sense of national pride, the trust our soldiers have in each other and in our government and military, the willingness to actually join the military and go fight for the country. All of that gets pole-axed. That gets steamrolled now by the fact that they can’t even feel confident to go and kill their enemies to do what they’re trying to do without being thrown in jail for life for it when they come back. Because that’s a war crime! That’s the kind of feeling that this is created.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. When I first heard it, I thought it was like ICC. I thought it was going to be a big international deal. Then I looked and I’m like:

 

“Holy shit, they’re bringing him up on charges inside of Australia!”

 

This is like some kind of shitlib ordeal, where they actually put up billboards and had advertisements over in Afghanistan for testimony and stuff like that you know, they’re like drumming stuff up!

 

It is somewhat unprecedented now, I assume, because a lot of these guys from my experience, aren’t necessarily on our side. In fact, the ones I know I would kind of consider assholes. [chuckling] You know, our societies are heavily degraded. These guys aren’t necessarily hugs and cupcakes or nice individuals. Many of them you could describe as Zogbots to a certain extent. “Rah, rah”, you know, patriots. But they would line us up against the wall as well if ordered by the government. What is his politics like? Is he being targeted for political reasons or is he targeted because he’s just a military icon and they’re trying to degrade a famous White military icon? You know what is the deal? Because he’s on their side.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like most soldiers he probably doesn’t have politics. And even if he does, it doesn’t matter! When you’re a soldier, you don’t have politics. You’re [government] property!

 

Tim Murdoch: Right, true.

 

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Blair Cottrell: So that’s like the way I see it. Even if the charges aren’t political, they might as well be, as I explained just then, because they really have a dramatic negative impact on our sense of pride as Australians and our trust that our army members of the Australian Defence Force have in our government and each other. It just makes people not want to fight for this country and not want to take this government seriously.

 

Tim Murdoch: I didn’t mean to interrupt you, but in America that’s already happened long ago. So I’m taking it, this is like we’ve got upset veterans handing in medals. You guys have never had anything like this before where people are saying:

 

“You know, fuck this! I’m not fighting for this government!”

 

This is like the next stage from Covid Covid was a big trust hammer in Australia. This is another thing that’s really putting the nail in the coffin, so to speak?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Like you said, there’s been really good articles put out there by Noticer News, which is huge source of news. Really good source of news in Australia. Probably the best source we have down here in Australia. And they just did a story I think yesterday or the day before, and war veterans all over the country are handing in their medals in disgust that the government has gone after this guy just for following orders, for being one of our best soldiers.

 

Tim Murdoch: It is years after the fact and you’re putting up advertisement. It’s years after the fact. It’s not like you’re dealing with fresh off Afghanistan and ICC charge or some type of formal investigation. Formal charge that this guy was doing really shitty things or unbecoming of an officer, so on, so forth, etc.

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! Why now? What’s the point of this?

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. Years after the fact doesn’t make any sense.

 

Blair Cottrell: When something like this happens to him, like who benefits? What is Australia getting out of hunting or targeting its own soldiers? For, like, historical war crimes that probably didn’t even happen. And even if they did, where, … Let me ask you this question. Where’s the Taliban? The government there that’s still in place now. Where are they charging their soldiers with war crimes?

 

Tim Murdoch: They don’t give a fuck!

 

Blair Cottrell: Who are they investigating?

 

Tim Murdoch: They don’t have our standards. They don’t have our moral standards.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s what I’m saying, right? The Talibani government would never drag its own soldiers who did commit war crimes! There’s no doubt about it. It’s well documented. They’ll celebrate them as heroes! They’re doing the opposite. Right. So that just goes to show, …

 

Tim Murdoch: We’ve always had a very high standard for soldiers and soldier behavior. This is just years after the fact. This is Australia advertising they wanted to do this. And they’re doing it inside of Australia. And it all just doesn’t. I mean, hey, maybe he’s a piece of shit, Zogbot? Maybe he said, “kill all Nazis”. Whatever. I don’t know anything about the guy. But he’s being, you know, railroaded, giving the White nationalist treatment, as what I call it, really. And it’s all inside of Australia, and they’re kind of like, okay, you know, he killed a guy and drank out of his prosthetic or something like that. Well, why are they waiting so long if he’s doing all these terrible things?

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! It’s like, why now? Who benefits? What’s going on here? What’s the point? Is it really just bureaucratic procedure that took ages to roll around? And if that’s the case, it’s kind of female coded.

 

Because if you’re fighting a war and you’re holding yourself to certain standards of war crimes where you can’t actually even kill your enemies when they’re there, but your enemy’s not doing that, well, it’s no wonder we didn’t win that war. Right? But what was even the point?

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know. But there’s this thing going on right now that’s the new head of the AFP. I think her name’s, [Krissy Barrett] I can’t remember her name. That’s that woman.

 

Tim Murdoch: It’s obviously political. This is the thing. We’re in a heavily degraded society, as I always say, and it affects everyone. And there is a problem of behavior amongst a percentage of Whites, especially in charge, especially in positions of power.

 

But there’s also a huge problem in this case of a White woman who obviously is targeting this guy, you know, would this be happening if it wasn’t for her? I don’t know. Seems like?

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, there’s this weird shift. There’s all these new task forces that are being created in Australia, specifically within the Australian Federal Police. There’s like, Task Force Against Anti-semitism, a task force to Promote Social Cohesion by targeting racism.

 

And all of that’s come about, Tim, in the last six to eight months. This is all really new stuff. So there’s these new like, it’s almost like the AFP was quietly overthrown. I mean, this is just speculation, but it was quietly overthrown.

 

And now it’s in the hands of someone. I don’t know, someone with hostile intentions. Because it’s like it’s being turned into a political police. And it happened very suddenly. It’s weird! I can’t explain it at this stage. All I know is that Australia is changing rapidly! It’s targeting its own citizens, its own veterans, its own people, to the benefit of (((foreign lobby groups))), foreign nations often and historically hostile to Australia.

 

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Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I saw one particular piece from the Daily Mail and the quotes were, … You know, they were analyzing, these particular departments and whatnot were analyzing all his tattoos. And he has a Christian cross tattoo, or we’re calling a crusader tattoo.

 

Blair Cottrell: That was a patch. Yeah, he had a patch. This is Ben Roberts Smith, the soldier who’s been charged. There’s this famous photo of him which was allegedly taken immediately after he just charged in against superior numbers and rescued a bunch of his comrades under heavy fire.

 

And as he’s walking away from that battle, he has a crusader knight’s cross patch, like a red Christian cross on a White shield. But the media in Australia edits the Christian cross out of the photo before they publish it in order not to offend Muslims or offend anyone who might not like that.

 

I mean, that just goes to show where we’re at! If there’s that level of political censorship happening in media, then it’s not unreasonable to assume that he’s being targeted for political reasons. That’s why he’s been accused of war crimes.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah. They’re targeting Whites across the board, and he’s obviously a symbol and they’re going after him for that particular reason.

 

I mean, there might be something legitimate. I’m not going to say that the guy’s perfect. I don’t know anything about him. He might be evil. [chuckling] There are some badass veterans in the US Army that I wouldn’t want to live near, that’s for sure. So you never know! We don’t know anything about him. But what I think is shitty is that if he’s doing something and it’s that over the top and there’s all these charges, why are they waiting so long, and why are they doing it with inside of Australia, like they’re doing it?

 

So I don’t know. And putting advertisements, putting up advertisements?

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s appeals to Afghanistanis, … There are more Afghanistanis living in Australia now, who have come from Afghanistan recently who have served in the army. Right. Because they have to over. There are more of them living here now than they, than the amount of Australian soldiers that were ever in Afghanistan.

 

So it’s like we have this fifth column and what the government’s doing and the police, they’re putting out advertisements appealing to those people in Australia saying:

 

“Hey, if you have any information about Ben Roberts Smith or any other soldier doing something mean or wrong to you, come and report it to us. And we’ll put it into our investigation.”

 

So it’s mind boggling! It’s like, how is this real? How is this happening?

 

Tim Murdoch: This is within the military, the confines of the military justice system of Australia. Correct? Or is it outside of the bounds of that? Because they have these laws on the books, war crime laws on the books and I don’t even know how old they are. Australia has these laws on the books that they can go after soldiers for war crimes regardless of the international law or anything like that it’s just kind of like internal to Australia. Now there’s always been a court martialing and stuff like that in America and behavior unbecoming of an officer and so on and so forth, et cetera. We have a military court of law here, but I don’t understand how it’s going over into civilian. I guess I don’t really know Australian courts.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s definitely an Australia internal thing, because it’s the Australian Federal Police that are leading the investigation. But they’re not really confined to the borders of Australia geographically. Like I said, they’ll send cops and investigators over to Afghanistan to get information from former Taliban fighters about Australian soldiers so they can go home and prosecute their own soldiers. I just think we need, regardless of this guy made some mistakes. I don’t care! This guy went to fight a war in another country against the enemy. That’s what he’s trained to do! And we need to stand with our own, even if they do make mistakes sometimes. It was easy to make mistakes in an environment where your enemy isn’t abiding by any specific rules of engagement. I’m not even saying he did make mistakes. I don’t know. I wasn’t there. The cops certainly weren’t there.

 

Tim Murdoch: Yeah, I’m not interested in trusting the advice of Afghanis that you’re soliciting, that are known liars, that they’re soliciting advice from. We have to see the evidence. But I just don’t like the way they’re doing this years after the fact. If he’s that much of a bad apple as they’re suggesting, you should have easily done something when he committed these acts because supposedly this is like known stuff and he’s a bad actor and he’s this big asshole and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Why are you waiting so long? And why are they having to solicit anything? Shouldn’t you have collected evidence right then and court martialed him or whatever? That’s normally what happens.

 

Blair Cottrell: Exactly! But look, guys, this is just what we’re going through down here in Australia.

 

I’m sorry to check out early, but my phone’s about to die. I’m just gonna give you guys the warning before it does. And like, look, we did kind of like a spontaneous drive up to visit Joel and have dinner with him last night. And so that’s why I’m like in disarray. I’d usually go sit with you guys for a bit longer. Yeah, thanks, Tim, for having me on. And thanks for the questions. Maybe in a couple of weeks or whenever you’re free again, we could say may, I could see up Tom Sewell. He could come on and he, Tom Sewell would be excellent at explaining the Ben Robert Smith Australian army situation because he spent a couple of years in battalion as a soldier. He has much more inside knowledge about how things really work.

 

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Tim Murdoch: What blew me away is they’re doing this outside of the military, … Well, I don’t know how Australian military works, but they’re doing it, … I mean this is something that happened in a war, but they’re doing it outside military court of law, which I think is pretty crazy! But and they have their own little war crime, their own little war crime ordeal.

 

But anyways, I appreciate it, Blair, for coming on and being a good sport. Guys, I’m going to let’s see what I’m going to do here. Hang out here a couple minutes and look what’s going on in the chat. I thought he’d be on a couple hours obviously, but his phone ran out and what are you going to do when your phone runs out?

 

But this case is one to watch. It’s definitely a political trial. We’ll have to see what evidence there is and why they waited so long. It all stinks to me. But we do appreciate Blair coming on. His phone ran out and he had the wrong cord.

 

Let me see what you guys are saying here. Yeah, it sounds like Joel’s doing quite well. He’s doing okay. Bo Nilson, thank you very much for the sub. But I’ll stay around a couple minutes. Let me cruise around and see what’s going on and then I’ll let you guys go. And for the weekend I’ll be back on Sunday. Yeah, I’ll get those guys on again soon. I’ll get Tom Sewell on again. I have on Warren Balogh but I’ll try to get on Tom Sewell or I’m trying to think of who else. You know, Tom I think was in the military. So.

 

But anyways, I appreciate you guys tuning in and supporting the show. I will be back Sunday. I was planning on doing a two hour show with Blair but nonetheless these things do happen. We do appreciate him being a good sport and coming on for 45 minutes. I was hoping he’d make it on at least an hour but he got close. But I do appreciate it guys and I guess I’m going to go ahead and let you guys go. You guys have a wonderful Friday evening and Saturday and I’ll be back on Sunday same time, same place, about 5:30 PM. Need we’ll talk about everything going on. I know they’re meeting with, … Let’s go over to Drudge. What’s up? Crafty Booms. I know they’re meeting on, … Trump’s vowing complete decimation of Iran. They’re meeting with Iran tomorrow in Pakistan.

 

Okay, so get this. They’re meeting with Iran in Pakistan and Did Do Nothing Replay, bro:

 

“Catching live. Great show. Thanks for what you do, sir.”

 

Well, thank you for support. We got Crafty Booms. Thank you 14 for the 88. I do appreciate it. I appreciate you guys generosity.

 

But this whole entire Iran situation is not over with. It’s not over with. It might die down for a bit. But why Pakistan? Pakistan arranged the meeting. There’s a few different theories on it. They’re a Muslim country. It’s kind of like they’re not in the war and they arranged the ceasefire. Or maybe Trump, through a back channel, had it. I think what they’re trying to do is stall for a period of time to build up enough forces to try another angle. They’re not going to be happy, they being Israel, is not going to be happy until the IRGC, the current regime in Iran, is gone.

 

So they’re going to keep going at it, and they’re going to obviously stall by time, until they can degrade that regime enough and kill enough of them. What they keep doing, obviously, is killing the elites they’re meeting with. So really, how are you going to meet with them anywhere if you’re killing them other than a situation like this? I mean, Pakistan escorted the jet from Pakistan, when it flew into Pakistan’s airspace. The jet containing the Iranian dignitaries and Iranian authorities, negotiating authorities in Pakistan.

 

I mean, the Israelis just keep on killing. And so Israel is supposed to be backing down in Lebanon, but of course, Israel let loose, what, 100 bombs in 10 minutes, dropped 100 bombs, missiles in 10 minutes and totally destroyed Lebanon. It’s just insanity! So Pakistan was a neutral player and they’re trying to, … There’s probably more explanation than that. But the Iranians can’t go just anywhere and meet just anywhere. They just can’t. Because everywhere they pop up, the Israelis kill them.

 

So, I think what Trump wants to do is build up a force to break them another way or maybe take oil or do something. He’s pulling something! The Iranians so far haven’t trusted anything, though. They don’t trust the Americans at all! Let’s see what Field Marshall has to say:

 

“Thanks for getting our Blair on. Hi, Joel. Thanks. Good luck, everything. Congrats to you and yours. The birth of your first child. Done.”

 

Thank you very much, Field Marshal. I do appreciate it. And when Joel can come on, he’ll be on, that’s for sure. I guess he has to get back on Telegram first and get these cases over with. We’ll see.

 

Yeah, I don’t know. There’s like a long explanation on why they did Pakistan and there’s a few conspiracies about it. But the Iranians. Who are you going to trust if you’re Iranian? So now the negotiating team. The negotiating team is JD Vance and it’s Trump’s son-in-law and it’s the main negotiator. Hold on here.

 

Okay. Daily Signal:

 

“I’ll see Vance to lead the negotiating team.”

 

Yeah, we’ve got like four or five guys in the negotiating team. See here, Steve Witkoff. Yeah. Jared Kushner. They’re both going to be there with J.D. Vance.

 

[52:17]

 

But there’s a fourth as well. I want to say maybe it’s Ambassador to Pakistan. Pakistan has four dignitaries there. Pakistan sets modest goal. Let’s look at Al Jazeera:

 

“Pakistan sets goal. A deal to keep talks going.”

 

They want to keep conversations going. The problem with this particular war so far, one of the reasons that I think the English speaking world elite and sections of Europe really don’t give a shit is that it hurts the BRICS. It really hurts the developing countries. That has become very clear. The developing countries, the BRICS countries are being hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which is kind of an interesting thing because Trump doesn’t like the BRICS countries.

 

But one of the side effects is they are hurt by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and only 15 tankers a day can get through. So the whole entire situation actually hurts the BRICS countries, which I find intriguing. They’re the ones suffering the most.

 

And so that’s probably one of the reasons behind it as well. Pakistan, developing countries. You know, these guys are all like:

 

“We’ve got to stop this war if we can.”

 

The Iranians, supposedly, what they’re saying is they’ve come a long ways in agreeing to various different things, supposedly, but I don’t know. Well, Iran doesn’t want to look like a bad guy internationally. They don’t want to play into the bad guy role. They’re not the aggressor. They’re defending their country, they’re defending their homeland. If Pakistan [Iran] would have shut down the Strait of Hormuz any other time, all hell would have broke loose. The whole entire international community would have came down on Iran and probably removed them somehow some way. But because of the way it happened, No one could really blame Iran. The blame would go to Israel, against Israel in the United States.

 

And Iran has the upper hand and they don’t want to lose that, which is very clever of them. They basically have been playing it very well. They’ve been doing a bang up job in handling themselves so far. I don’t think they’re going to make any mistakes. But they’re going to have to be ready to fight to the death, there’s no doubt about that. Because they’re not going to be happy until they get they get the particular uranium. They don’t want them to have nukes. And Trump wants to send them back to the Stone Age. He’s saying that again. He vows complete decimation and ceasefire warning to Tehran.

 

Now I am guessing he’s saying a lot of this shit just to get them to the table because this is hurting the American economy. But I do know in the back of everyone’s head these guys at the top don’t like the BRICs and they want a way to harm the BRICs. Having the Strait of Hormuz shut down harms the BRICS countries, more than anyone else. You know, the Chinese are prepared, the US is prepared more than most. Europe’s got issues, but the BRICS really has issues, that’s for damn sure!

 

But anyways guys, I’ll be back on Sunday. We’ll talk about it more, 5:30 PM. Thanks you guys for tuning in and I’ll get Blair back on when he can bullshit for a couple hours. White Bitch Triple Six get a hold of me via email if you need Blair’s contact information and he can hook you up with a fitness consulting. That’s what he does. And he’s very good at it.

 

But anyways, cheers guys and thanks for tuning in and supporting the show, as well as all the support out there.

 

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MountainMan1847
1 day ago
Australia for the white man o/ Heil to my Aussie brothers
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xSTRAWMANx
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Ken oath mate
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traceywilliams
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Would’ve loved to hear Blair finish a sentence.
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LiftWaffen
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He is really great at interrupting!

Tristan_Blixt
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you need to listen more and talk less. let blair do the talking
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timmurdock
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20 hours ago
I had lots of questions and only an hour to get them in. Cut me a break or get your own show.
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Correctifier
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Wotan bless me Aussie mates!
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TheWhitenessoftheWhale
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Do they want to humiliate SAS?
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renunciate
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22 hours ago
Ben R Smith is a war hero. His treatment is intentional demoralization.
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BradC1988
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Its great to hear Joel Davis has been released on bail and that he hasn’t changed a bit! Hail White Australia! o/
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KingTut999
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after Joel got released his Go, Send, Go or whatever fundraiser link got nuked. so not sure what happened exactly.

Spaceman69
1 day ago
ben robert smith is being crucified by hes OWN CREW testifying against him because he cross some big lines and deserves all that he is getting. rules of engagement brothaaaaaa. you aint above the law big fellow. imagine how bad things were your own crew ratted you out, and rightly so!!! dont take my word for it, go read the court transcripts for yourself or watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J896i3yrTbQ&t=2s come at me nazis, this is the only place you can exercise your racism these days…. prove me right. prove the hate speech laws right!
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You couldn’t resist squawking buzzwords, could you? “Nazi” “racist”. Both propaganda terms used by communist agitators. Label someone with a negative name to justify persecuting them. GFY.
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Spaceman69
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are we pretending like joel davis was not a self proclaimed racist nazi LEADER? blaire use to be as well till he got kicked out cause hes missus cucked him with another member of NSN, so he chased the guy down with toma hawks then burned the guys house down- hence went to max security prison.. ohh boy, ya cant make this shat up.. hey whitey.. feel free to white wash the information to your liking… but now its the age of the internet…. that hitler brain wash bullshat aint gonna float. the truth is out there. the internet never forgets
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BradC1988
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Shut the fuck up retard LOL
Spaceman69
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blair sounds funny. like he forgot to take meds or sumthin. joels arrest, that racists try to white wash is that the female politician he had hes nazi possy harass AKA “rhetorically rape”, well she ended up quitting her job and moving house for her families safety because of the degree of online treats and harassment she received. i imagine she also took out intervention order against him and hes nazi friends. so yeah its kinda serious!!! you cannot threaten people like that even “rhetorically” especially a politician. thanks to NSN nazis and racists, Australia has passed laws against hate speech. basically it is now ILLEGAL to be racist in Australia. which i think is freaking awesome! an example to the world. these dumb nazis seem to think their freedom of speech includes insulting people to their hearts desires on the daily! like a aussie magistrate has said, people have the right to go about their daily lives without being subjected to your vile hate filled racism. on behalf of immigrants here in aus, thank you nazis for making racism illegal!!! we couldn’t have done it without ya… now we sit back eat pop corn and watch the overwhelming avalanche of court cases these racist dickheads are about to face.. they make for a perfect example of why these laws are necessary. nazi racism destroys common sense!
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bthor29
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Are you referencing the multi million dollar mansion she inherited then spent $800k renovating using her political influence to assist with council approval?
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Spaceman69
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completely unrelated. next you’ll be talking about affairs and sex scandals… are you trying to justify rhetorically raping her with threats and harassment?!? because she had an opinion about NSN?
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BradC1988
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Joel’s comments were totally justified, retard. However, your presence in a White country has no justification. You and the rest of the unwelcome brown/black hordes contribute nothing but crime to the host country.
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5 hours ago
Again, shut the fuck up you antiWhite piece of shit. Also, you will be going home to your shitty country. Its only a matter of time, shitskin! LOL
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leibekohne
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https://www.noticer.news/joel-davis-released-bail-telegram-post/ Joel is free after 133 days, this zog cowardly act must never be repeated, zog should pay huge compensation, and be replaced. Viva; White international unity p….

GreenGladeAryan
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody and welcome to Patriotic Weekly Review, episode number 358. We’re live tonight on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. Please do share the links wherever you’re watching it. It really helps.

 

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Anyway, we’ve got an amazing guest on the show tonight. I’m lucky enough to have met this man in person. He’s a good friend of mine. We do talk and correspond when we’re not streaming. He not somebody I just message out the blue saying do a stream. We do talk to each other and I really like being in his company actually. He’s one of those people that I’ve met offline, met in the real world and he’s an amazing guy. And he really is the kind of person that you should look up to, you should support because he is the real deal! He’s a true gentleman in the real world as much as he is on stream and he is someone you can look up to. He’s intelligent he keeps himself in good shape, and he helps young men overcome the problems of obesity, inactivity and low testosterone by helping them get in shape, designing them fitness plans. And these things are super important because they help boost people’s confidence, which help them get on in life where they need to be. This guy is a hero of our people, and he’s living in one of the most oppressive nations in the world.

 

Blair, how are you doing, my friend? It’s good to have you back. It’s been a while. I hope you’ve been well.

 

[05:00]

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m doing great, mate. Thanks for the warm welcome, as always, and it’s good to be back. It’s been a little while since our last catch up, our last live catch up, and I think it’s been a few months since I’ve done a live stream as well. The last one I did would have been by myself, but then prior to that, I would regularly stream with my colleague Joel, Joel Davis, who on that point, he’s got a Supreme Court bail hearing today. So Joel’s going for bail today. If you don’t know who Joel is, Joel is a close colleague of mine and an activist known for public demonstrations, public speeches, and streaming down here in Australia. He’s Australian nationalist, very active, very aggressive, and quickly became very popular over the last couple of years. But because of a Telegram post allegedly threatening a politician, Joel’s been in jail. He hasn’t been found guilty of anything, but they’ve held him anyway and they’ve stacked a lot of other charges on him while he’s been in jail, all in relation to, quote, unquote, “hate speech”.

 

So when Mark says, this is one of the most oppressive nations, Australia, my country, is one of the most oppressive nations right now! I’m sure he’s referring to that, among other things. But Joel’s going for bail today and he should get it. I think. I’d be very surprised if the Supreme Court didn’t grant him bail.

 

So if you do know who Joel is and you have supported him, thanks very much. But if you don’t and you’re looking for more information, I’ll send a link to Mark and he can maybe share it with you guys in the comments. But that’s the most pressing part of news for Australia for today.

 

Mark Collett: How’s he holding up? Is he still in good spirits? Because I know that jail affects different people in a different way. And there’s some people who go through the system and they come out of jail and they’re like:

 

“Well, it wasn’t too bad. I met loads of cool people. I’ve got friends, I was popular on the wing.”

 

And there’s other people who have a tough time and they can’t cope with being in there. They get into confrontations. There’s other things that go wrong for them and they just find it very difficult. How is Joel dealing with his time inside?

 

Blair Cottrell: Very well, I think. Especially considering that when he was arrested, his girlfriend was pregnant with his first child. And a few days after he was arrested she was heavily pregnant. Joe she gave birth to their first son. His boy is very healthy. Joel hasn’t actually been able to spend a lot of time with. I think he’s had one visit officially. He’s been in prison for four months and because of his status as a high profile offender, but because of the nature of his offending, because of his politics, basically because of his ideology, Mark, let’s be honest, he’s been classified as a “national security risk or threat” and that means he goes in isolation. He doesn’t get a lot of contact with any people except a select few. He wasn’t even given a Bible or access to a lawyer for a couple of weeks. It took them weeks to get a lawyer back onto his phone list. He’s been kept in pretty low conditions, pretty harsh conditions. But considering all of that, considering that he’s sitting in jail thinking:

 

“God, my girlfriend just had my son and I can’t even hold him.”

 

Considering that he’s holding up pretty well. I’ve spoken to him probably over a dozen times. He isn’t able to call me anymore though. For some reason they just took me off his phone list, and they didn’t explain why, initially, they didn’t explain why. And then they said:

 

“It’s because of your national security classification, you’re not allowed to talk to that person.”

 

But look, I’m hoping that he’s released today. I was hoping to get up because he’s in another state in Australia to me and Australia is a big country. I was hoping to travel up there [from Victoria to NSW] to be there for him today, but I’m not going to be able to make it. But I’m sure a lot of the boys up there will be waiting for him at the front of the Supreme Court. And it’s going to be great to have him out. I’m pretty confident he will get bail. I’ll be really shocked if he doesn’t.

 

If he doesn’t, it just demonstrates that the courts, the judges, could be compromised all the way up to Supreme Court. And if that’s the case, that’s really shocking! And the reason it’s so shocking, …

 

Mark Collett: It wouldn’t shock me.

 

Blair Cottrell: Just so you guys understand the situation, the charge that Joel is being held for is “menacing or harassing someone through a carriage service”, you know, mentioning someone in an online post. It was only one post, okay? It wasn’t actually proven to have caused any harassment or resulted in any damages. That charge is a pretty low tier offence and doesn’t usually result in a term of imprisonment, even when convicted, even when found guilty. It’s got a less than 6.5% rate of imprisonment. That means almost 95% of people who get charged with this never even go to jail. They get bail, they go to court, they might get a fine. That’s it!

 

Joel is being held without being proven guilty, and has been held in a maximum security facility as classified as a national security threat for the last four months. Hasn’t been able to have access to basic rights that other prisoners get access to.

 

And the irony is he was arrested in the same suburb where our worst terror attack in the nation’s history just took place late last year. The Bondi shooting, where a couple of Muslim characters targeted some people on a beach, specifically trying to target jewish people. That terrorist is literally, has literally had access to more rights than Joel. He’s had access to an imam inside the, inside the prison, which is like the you guys probably know this. It’s like our version of a priest. He’s been given a Quran, which is like our version of a Bible. He’s been able to contact friends and family. Joel’s had none of that! Okay? Joel wasn’t given access to a priest. He wasn’t given a Bible. He wasn’t able to call his friends and family. He wasn’t even given access to a lawyer for a while there, all because of his “national security classification”.

 

So that’s the situation. I’m hoping to see him out today, though. He should get bail today.

 

[11:34]

 

Mark Collett: Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t. And I’m not saying that because I want to depress anybody. I’m saying it because it’s just the way I see things. You know, I watch one of my best friends go to jail for stickers that the police said:

 

“Well, the stickers were legal. We are not going to argue the truth of any of them because as far as we can see, they were truthful. But we think they’re intended to stir racial hatred.”

 

Obviously, that’s Sam Melia. I just find that if they want to screw you, they will screw you! And it’s cases like the Rob Rundo case. I mean, Rob Rundo punched a guy on a campus somewhere. Well, okay, punching a guy on a campus, what’s that, three months in jail? You know, a fine. Well, they chased him halfway across the world and deported him on a private jet with a bag over his head, as if he was Osama Bin Laden’s right hand man, for just sticking it on some Leftie at a demo!

 

And I sometimes wonder when we talk about cruelty and police brutality, when the police and the system go for us, they go for us in a way that they would never go for any other group, or have gone for any other group. And I mean, if somebody wants to point out, like there’s another group that have experienced this kind of prejudice, this kind of extreme level of sentencing, this kind of extreme level of persecution, I don’t know, I’ve never heard of it. I mean, you know that there are groups in America, Left-wing groups that committed crimes, horrendous crimes, acts of terrorism. They were all allowed to leave jail and came out and became college and university lecturers and wrote books and became phenomenally wealthy because of their crimes. There are people out there in this country who were serious Muslim terrorists. And there are essentially state funded groups that are there to work out ways to ensure these men get out early. And they all appear to be “reformed”.

 

Whereas with us you might as well just lock us up and throw away the key. And when people like Sam Melia came out of jail, one of the worst things for him is they were like:

 

“Well, you can come out of jail, but you can’t go and live with your family. You’ve got to go and live in a hostel. And you’ve got to be back in the hostel for 7 PM every night. You can’t even playut your kids to bed.”

 

And I sometimes wonder the people behind this, they must be the most soulless, wicked people imaginable! And what they’ve done to Joel is arguably from what you’re saying, I would argue this point is actually worse than what they’ve done to Sam because at least Sam got regular visitation and at least Sam was allowed to move freely in general population, made friends, got a job in prison. It seems with Joel, they’re doing everything they can to break his spirit. I just hope that when he does come out, somehow you guys manage to give him some incredible warm welcome.

 

Blair Cottrell: How is Sam going? Have you been? I didn’t actually catch the stream that you did with him or the show that you just did.

 

Mark Collett: He’s really. He’s doing really well! His book became a number one bestseller on Amazon. He’s doing really well! He’s knocking out the park. He feels really good about everything. You know, obviously he’s been back with his family now for some time. He’s back at protests, he’s back giving speeches. He’s an incredible guy, and I am so pleased that he’s come out of this the other side. And if anything, it’s made him stronger and more sort of dedicated in terms of his “love” for the system. I’m sure that’ll do that for Joel as well, I mean probably Joel better than anyone. How do you think he’ll react when he gets out?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think he’ll be very glad! The first time you go to jail, for whatever reason, I’ve been a long time ago, when I was a young scamp. The first time they release you, the first thing you notice is how green everything is, because you don’t see trees or grass, especially not in Australian prison. Everything’s just concrete and you don’t see the horizon. There’s just this huge concrete wall on the outside of your field of vision.

 

So the size, the scale of society, of the world and how green it is, you start to really take all that in and you appreciate everything. So it’s going to be an experience for him. Joel’s very good at sort of coldly experiencing reality, though. Joel’s good at processing his emotions in such a way where he doesn’t really necessarily express them or allow them to affect his demeanor.

 

[16:14]

 

So if he’s gonna walk out, for example, and there’s going to be, like media cameras there filming him, I’m sure he’ll walk out as a real cool cat that doesn’t really feel much at all! [chuckling] But I miss the guy so much, I’m just really looking forward to seeing him.

 

But in relation to what you said about how hard the authorities go on, people who come from nationalism, nationalist activism, I think what happens, I really think it comes down to human naivety. I wish I could be a fly on the wall, actually, in a meeting like this. I think certain police units that are quite green to this kind of politics and this kind of activism. That is to say they are taken from other fields where they’ve been stationed for a while. So they don’t really know much about characters such as you and me. They haven’t been exposed to this stuff before. They’re put into a room, these coppers, and some political bureaucrat, some police bureaucrat stands there and explains that these guys are “terrorists”! Basically:

 

“They’re a terror threat, they’re extremely dangerous. They have knowledge of all sorts of dangerous stuff, weapons, etc, they’re known to be violence, etc, etc, etc!”

 

So they basically brainwash these naive cops that don’t really know much about us. And the cops go in really hard thinking that they’re doing something great for the community. When really they’re being focused on pretty much the ownly, the last semblance of resistance against the end of society! That’s kind of how I see what we’re doing sometimes the fall of our civilisation. We’re trying to resist that.

 

But I think that’s what happens. It’s just naivety and it’ll continue because speaking of prison, they do the same thing in prison, Mark. They shuffle around the prison guards so that you don’t get the same guards in your unit for any longer than about a month. They put new ones in that you haven’t seen before and then they stay for about a month, maybe six weeks. They move them on. Their new guards come through maybe from another prison, because the prisons are typically run by either the government or private security companies that have a great deal of personnel working across the entire country. Right. So you often don’t spend a lot of time with the same prison officers when you’re in jail. Just as you probably won’t deal with the same police officers very frequently in Australian activism, nationalist activism. And the reason that that revolving door of personnel exists is to keep everyone naive as to the reality of like, what these people are actually doing and to prevent anyone from developing sympathies or friends. Do you understand what I mean?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I can imagine that it makes it harder as well. So when you’re in jail. I’ve never been in jail, but I can imagine when you’re in jail, things like familiar faces, people that you used to make it feel slightly easier. And Sam did say this to me, he said:

 

“When he was inside, knowing the lads on the wing, knowing the guys that you did your job with.”

 

So one of Sam’s jobs was the cafeteria in the cafeteria. Now, interestingly, he said that basically the pedos made the food, the pedos cooked the food so they were out of the way. Then they would send it up and then him and his team would serve it in the servery to everyone, and then they would clean up afterwards.

 

And one of the great things about being on the servery was not only were you out of your cell, but you’re out of your cell for a long time and working with the same group of lads. And after a while it felt a little bit like it was your group of friends you knew everyone, you got on them. There was a bit of banter, but he said by moving people around, it took that away from them. And it’s almost like a reset.

 

So if you’re getting on really well with everyone in one prison and they move you to another prison, you are starting from scratch again. Everyone’s got to get to know you. Everyone’s like:

 

“What are you in for, mate?”

 

And you have this sort of big reset.

 

And obviously all of this is designed to persecute some more than others, because if they want to make your life slightly easier, they keep you around the same people, they keep you on the same tasks, they allow you to build friendships. If they don’t want you to have any of those things, they keep moving you, they keep you on lockdown, they keep moving you from wing to wing, stop letting you have a consistent job. And that’s all part of the punishment. And then it punishment starts to stray into the territory, almost of torture, because some of these guys aren’t allowed to speak to friends and family.

 

And we’ve had the same thing in the UK where we’ve been speaking to political prisoners. And then all of a sudden the guy stops calling and you get word from someone else that he’s still allowed to call, that he’s not allowed to call you anymore because the state have just updated their lists of people he isn’t allowed to speak to. It’s all very unfair.

 

But one other thing I wanted to ask you is what’s happening with obviously the NSN was forced to close down. What’s happening with that law? Has that law been formally brought in yet? Or is it still sort of in the process of coming in?

 

And obviously I’m going to get Tom Sewell on again at some point to give us an update on the legal case. But since all of that, what’s the feeling from normal Aussies there about freedom of speech? Because to us in the UK, when we were watching this from the outside looking in, it just seemed this huge blow for freedom and huge blow for any nationalist group that even wanted to start a political party.

 

[22:24]

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s a good question, actually. I’m not really sure what’s happening with that law. I’m also not sure what’s happening with the process of challenging that law.

 

But from what I understand, there is currently a some sort of move to try to get the High Court, and this was my understanding of what Thomas Sewell is currently doing. He’s dealing with lawyers behind the scenes. He’s trying to get the High Court in Australia to make an injunction that the, … Let me start from scratch in case people don’t understand what’s happened. After the Bondi terror attack in Australia, that I mentioned earlier, where people were shot on Bondi beach. It’s like a major beach in New South Wales, Australia. It was the worst terror attack in our country’s history. Off the back of that terror attack, the government introduced a new threshold of crime they’re calling “hate crime”. It doesn’t have to be violent crime.

 

Basically, “hate crime” can be something you’re saying on the Internet. It can be an ideology that you’re subscribing to and certain groups with an ideological or religious basis that the government feels is threatening, they can be outlawed as “hate groups”.

 

Basically, it’s a whole new category of crime, and it’s a whole new way for the government in Australia to list so certain groups as terror groups without them actually doing anything related to violence or terrorism. It’s a pretty egregious law. In the actual legislation, it says things like, “no criminal convictions required, no procedural fairness required”.

 

Basically, there will be a bureaucratic process within government, amongst certain government officials that decides who’s allowed to exist as a political protest group, or a political party and who’s not, on the basis of their ideology and perhaps even their personal character. It basically cancels democracy, Mark put it that way. We have new hate crime legislation in Australia which cancels democracy! And it’s being celebrated by the government as a fantastic thing! So far, though, interestingly, they haven’t used it to list the National Socialist Network or Tom Sewell’s White Australia as a hate group.

 

However, while the legislation was being passed, and you kind of know stuff like this is going to pass, even though it shouldn’t pass in any fair, Democratic country, you know it’s going to pass when they introduce it. You just like when you hear the sort of people that are trying to get it through. The Prime Minister supports it. The opposition kind of supports it too. You’re like:

 

“Okay, this is going to pass. Jesus!”

 

So while it was passing, Tom Sewell disbanded the National Socialist Network and White Australia, completely. Well, I think the White Australia Party, the logistics required to register that party still exists, but the registration hasn’t been completed because the Australian Electoral Commission basically hasn’t responded to them. They’re not really sure whether they can register them on the basis of these new laws. That’s my understanding. I could be wrong. I could be getting my facts wrong with the AEC. I’m not sure if a registration has been put forward to the AEC. It was my understanding that it had been done, but I’m not exactly sure at this stage.

 

But what I will say is what’s happening now, my understanding of what’s happening now is that in order for the White Australia Party to be registered so people like Thomas Sewell and Joel Davis and Jacob Hersant and Jack Eltis can contest elections in the future, and you know, various other candidates can pop up, Senate candidates or regional candidates. You know, everyone who’s anyone in Australia in Right-wing activism is considering being involved or was considering being involved with this White Australia Party, … Which I believe is what prompted the government to introduce this hate crime law and rush it through off the back of a terror attack. Because right now there is a giant space for a far-Right presence to really pick up a lot of votes in Australia. There’s a very dissatisfied White Australian working class down here! They just don’t have anyone to vote for.

 

There’s One Nation but it’s just not far-Right enough. People need something a little bit more hardline. And they’re looking for someone to vote for. And the White Australia Party, although it might sound a little crass to people who don’t understand the history of Australia, the policy upon which Australia was founded was called the “White Australia Policy”. So it has roots in Australian history, this stuff. It’s very clever what the boys were doing. But the government introduced, introduced this hate crime legislation and in order to prevent him, all of his boys from going to jail overnight, Tom Sewell publicly disbanded the group.

 

But what he’s doing is trying to get the High Court, he’s working with some lawyers to try to get the High Court to make a special injunction that that hate crime legislation cannot apply to a political party.

 

And I think it’s a reasonable injunction for the High Court to make. I think in order to preserve any semblance of democracy, they would need to make that injunction, because political parties being denied registration or banned and outlawed on the basis of their ideology without having committed a crime, without having encouraged violence and without any procedural fairness or any route of appeal, like that’s not even a democracy! It has no relation to democracy!

 

[28:00]

 

So that’s my understanding of what’s going on. I’m not sure where that’s at. I do talk to Tom pretty regularly. He’s a close friend of mine, but he’s been pretty busy for the last few weeks and I suppose I’ll drop him a line and he’ll give everybody an update as to what’s going on with that. The ideal result, Mark, the ideal result is that the High Court does accept or make an injunction. The High Court does rule that this hate crime legislation cannot be used to ban or wipe out political parties. Can’t apply to political parties. The boys register White Australia, and then all the remaining traditional working Australians have someone to vote for. They have a banner to rally behind. I think that’s what the current government is terrified of and I think that’s why they’ve done what they’ve done with the hate crime legislation, with the police pressure, with the stacks of criminal charges they’ve pretty much slapped on every single member or leading members of White Australia. And I don’t usually get into, I’m pretty fair, I don’t usually weigh in too much on the conspiratorial stuff, but when you look at all the evidence, there’s a strong effort by the existing government, the existing political parties, to gatekeep their community, to gatekeep their class, the political class. They don’t want to allow White Australia a seat at the table because I think they know White Australia could run away with a victory and pretty much seize control of the country if they’re not careful. So a lot is being done to prevent that at a government level.

 

Mark Collett: Well, I’m not sure whether a party like White Australia would sort of storm it at the ballot box. It’s very difficult to do that. And I’ve thought that many times myself. You know, when I was in the BNP, I was expecting us to walk away with it. And there was always a softer option presented at exactly the same time. And that softer option was always the thing that the public decided to vote for, instead of voting for us.

 

But I think what they fear with groups like White Australia is once you are a political party, once you’re on the ballot paper, it gives you a degree of, or over an ear of respectability where you can say:

 

“Look, we are the real deal. We are officially registered.”

 

And at that point you have protections. And I believe that that’s what they were scared of in your case.

 

Because if you had the protections to keep doing what you were doing and you were officially registered, I think it would have been very hard at that point for them to do the things they were doing to.

 

Blair Cottrell: You are right. You are right! You have to understand that I had the same opinion. I thought even if these guys get registered, I don’t think they’ll get a lot of votes. I was thinking it’s going to take them a long time to cement themselves into official political culture because people tend to vote either one way or the other with this is like a two party system that we have in Australia, just like in most countries. And they’re very traditional about that. But the Boomers are traditional about that. There’s this whole new generation even us, we will vote more radically than the Boomers. We don’t want to vote for any major party. You know, we’re in our 30s and 40s, so pretty much anyone that age and below is going to vote for something more radical and is really fed up with what’s going on in the country.

 

And when I saw, August 31st last year, the first ever March for Australia rally, which was a huge phenomenon, and Tom Sewell and the NSN, how should I explain? They acted as sort of a makeshift security that allowed that rally to go ahead. When I saw how regular people reacted to literal Nazis walking into this rally to participate in it, to protect it and to play a leading role in it, I was shocked! I was actually shocked. I didn’t expect to see that. And when people, the way they reacted is they supported them wholeheartedly. They cheered them, they shook their hands, they wanted to get in photos with them.

 

And when I saw interviews later of regular people being asked about Tom Sewell and the guys, like:

 

“What do you think about these guys? Like, isn’t it a problem that there’s Nazis at your rally?”

 

The people shrugged. The people shrugged and said:

 

“Well, they’re against immigration. That’s what the rally’s about. So I don’t care!”

 

And someone would say:

 

“Really you don’t?”

 

Some journalist was trying to bait them, saying:

 

“You don’t care that there’s a Nazi up there speaking right now?”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Nah!”

 

I [chuckling] was like:

 

“Wow, that’s how fed up people are!”

 

People are so fed up that I think they would vote for a White nationalist party in Australia. I think that’s the way, you have to understand the Australian demeanor, the Australian character. We won’t always fight aggressively and in the moment, but I think sticking it to you know, rejecting official bureaucracy in a way that’s like profound, sudden, unexpected, we’re a rebellious spirit down here.

 

And that’s why I think the White Australia Party would actually get a fair few votes. Well, you got to understand, One Nation down here was a party that was a bit of a phenomenon. It kind of broke into the scene of official politics very suddenly, and Pauline Hanson was the leader of that party, still is, and she had a lot of problems back in the day. She even was put in jail for a while for some tax reason or something. But it was all political, whatever. But I feel that that phenomenon could have been repeating with White Australia, which is why in this case, the existing government, the existing political class, they were thinking:

 

“Hey, we’ve seen this before. We’re kind of more schooled in this process than we were the first time, so let’s not let it happen again.”

 

I’m just hoping the High Court makes that ruling so they can participate in official politics.

 

[34:05]

 

Mark Collett: I have a slightly different sort of more grim view of things than you, obviously, but it might be different in Australia and I hope it is. Here in the UK, when push comes to shove, people always take the how can I say it? The softer option. So people in this country are so scared of being called “racist”.

 

But anyway, one of the big things I wanted to talk to you about, and you’ve been talking about this a little bit on your own sort of Telegram page, is the situation that’s unfolding with petrol prices, with food prices, with really the fallout from what’s going on in Iran.

 

Now, I’m not sure what your take is on this, but since my sort of earliest days in nationalism, the old hands in the nationalist movement, the people that I was meeting and talking with, that had been doing, so when I came into things in about the year 2000, the 1970s weren’t that long ago. I was only sort of in my early 20s and there was people who had been in the National Front in their 20s or in their 30s, and now they’re in the BNP. And they were in their sort of 40s or 50s, a lot of life left in them very eager. And they would always sort of cool us down when the younger ones were saying:

 

“This is our time! We’re going to do this, we’re going to smash it!”

 

And they would always say:

 

“Look, it’s not going to be that easy. If we’re going to win the first thing that we need is a situation whereby there is genuine economic hardship.”

 

You know, these guys had seen years of election campaigns, they’d seen sort of decades of nationalists building up through big marches and then getting nowhere and then at the ballot box getting a derisory vote.

 

And one of the things that I was always told was:

 

“Until we get this big economic collapse, until there’s a depression, until, until people can’t afford to turn the heating on and don’t know if they can feed their family anymore, people aren’t going to be dislodged. People aren’t going to decide to vote for an outsider group.”

 

And here we are and we are starting to see genuine hardship. You know, I was traveling past a forecourt the other day which is usually the cheapest in our area. It’s over £1.50 a litre for petrol and nearly £1. 90 a litre for diesel, which is record, record price levels. People won’t be able to afford that. Is this what people need for the final push over the edge? Or do you just think this is going to be another big blip where:

 

“Oh, well, you know, two, three years down the line. Well, remember when it was really bad and Trump took people into Iran and the petrol almost ran out, but here we are and we’ve forgotten about it and we’ve moved on and we’ve got on with life!”

 

Or do you think we are moving to a time where there is going to be genuine hardship? Or maybe this is going to be something that our government seizes upon, to get rid of petrol cars, to ration petrol, to bring in more controls on our lives like they did through Covid? How do you think this is going to play out?

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s only one piece of the puzzle. You have to be ready for a crisis like this. You have to be prepared. You have to have the right kind of manpower and political force to capitalise on it if you are going to use it to your advantage, or if you are if you’re going to use any sort of crisis to your advantage.

 

And that’s why it’s curious that such a strong effort. It’s curious to me, that so much has been done to shut down and White Australia Party, shut down and criminalise them right before this crisis has panned out. Maybe that’s connected, maybe not.

 

But I know that if the White Australia Party did get registered, let’s say late last year when they intended to, before the hate crime legislation was rushed through Parliament, they’d be in a very strong position right now to deconstruct or de-legitimize the existing government and assure people that they could put their faith into them rather than the existing Labour government in Australia. But rather the situation we have instead is that that group has been forced to disband by emergency law changes off the back of a terror attack. This crisis has come into being and Albanese is just ruling Australia with an iron fist. His main political opposition, the Liberal Party, is just in absolute tatters. They can’t even figure out who’s going to lead which state.

 

And so it’s going to be a Labour government in Australia for a while. They’re going to be able to do whatever it is they please, which is another reason Joel’s just being thrown in jail without really any fair due process, like they pretend that there is, but there’s not.

 

[39:08]

 

But look, the petrol prices, the diesel prices are similar in Australia. When you compare the differences in currency for us, we’re looking at about $2.50 a litre for petrol, and that’s shitty 91 petrol, which they don’t even have. When I went to England 18 months ago and caught up with you, Mark, I noticed they don’t even sell 91 through most of England. It’s 95 minimum, I’m pretty sure. And so 91 is a rat grade, rat shit grade of fuel that most of Europe doesn’t even sell. And in Australia that’s $2.50 a litre, just for that. Plus the government has made some ruling here that the sulfur content of fuel can now be higher in order to stretch it out more. So it’s even worse than 91, probably. It’s really probably bad for your car, but they don’t care. They just want to keep everything ticking over as long as they can.

 

Diesel is the real problem. Australia is a huge consumer of diesel. And as a result of diesel being understood as more efficient, which I think it is, it burns a little slower and pound for pound, it gets you a little further. A lot of diesel engines have been sold to people. Diesel cars, just regular SUVs for families. But anyone who thought they were being smart by buying a diesel engine is now really suffering because the price of diesel just recently approached $3.50 per liter, which works out to be about the same as the fuel prices in England, as I said.

 

But look, the government’s come in recently and said:

 

“Hey, we’re going to cut the fuel tax in half to ease the pressure for you guys.”

 

So 50% less tax on fuel for everybody. But the funny thing is it took about a week for that price reduction to come into being, to be implemented by the fuel stations.

 

And by the time a week rolled around, the price had actually increased so much. All the fuel tax cut achieved was actually leveling out prices for a few days. It didn’t really reduce prices very much, maybe by about 15 cents in some regions, but it didn’t really have that much of an impact.

 

But this war, this war, I suppose we’ve got a lot to say about this war. Mark, what do you think about this war? Did you foresee something like this? Is this the time it was supposed to happen? What are you thinking?

 

Mark Collett: Well, I’ve been posting a few mashups on my Telegram of Trump saying he’s going to be the President of peace, he’s going to be the guy that stops the wars, he’s going to be the guy that stops American military interventions. This is going to be a new era. It’s America First. But he has become slavishly pro-Israel to the point where he would do anything they said.

 

Now, with Trump, it’s always hard to kind of see where he’s going to go. So when he went into North Korea, what happened? Well, he came out of North Korea, you know, singing the praises of the North Korean leader, the North Korean establishment, and being best buddies with you know, and that was the end of North Korea as the bad guy. And Trump is very unpredictable in how he behaves. You’re not quite sure what you’re going to get with him, and it’s little things that can throw him off.

 

But with Iran, he seems to have been absolutely doggedly pro-war, but that’s part of a wider shift. And all of a sudden, you know, it started around Venezuela, then he started threatening Colombia, Cuba, Greenland. Now it’s Iran. It almost seems like he’s on a little bit of a rampage. And some of this, I’m not saying that the guy’s a good guy or anything like this, but he’s obviously being led round by the nose by Israel. They have got him into this to a large degree. And even the mainstream media have said that originally Israel was saying:

 

“Look, this is only going to be a week of bombing. We just need your help for maybe three or four days, you know, eight days tops!”

 

And here they are like a month later and the world economy’s grinding to a halt. America has been largely humiliated. There are now dead Americans, and Trump can’t see his way out other than by sending ground troops in. And some of this is obviously Israel, but I’ve spoken about this on other shows and said some of this is actually a result of how isolated Trump is so when you look at Trump now, he’s not in the White House, he’s not in the Pentagon, he’s at Mar a Lago surrounded by fewer and fewer people. The people he was close with, the people that did surround him in the White House, they’re not there anymore. The people who are surrounding him are increasingly of jewish descent, very war hawkish. They’re the ones he’s listening to. And he’s even cut off on social media. So rather than making proper social media posts on X, he posts on Truth Social. So he can immediately ban anybody who says something that he doesn’t agree with. An isolation of that kind is usually very bad for people.

 

Now, I don’t want to go down the line of being like:

 

“Well, the Democrats were so professional because when they did war, they did it from the White House or the Pentagon!”

 

But there is something about doing war from the White House or the Pentagon.

 

And one of the things that shows that Trump is in this state of mental flux, and I spoke about this earlier in the week on Patrick Slattery show, is if you remember when we went to war with Iraq, the lies were quite consistent for a long period:

 

“Weapons of mass destruction, 45 minutes to deploy the missiles. We’ve got to get Saddam Hussein in a box before he puts us in a box. Where’s he going to strike next?”

 

That was consistent. It was a lie, but it was a consistent lie.

 

[45:18]

 

 

Now, what we’ve heard around this war, it changes on a daily basis. Regime change, energy stability, getting rid of the Ayatollah, supporting people in Iran who are protesting, stopping Israel from being wiped off the face of the map, stopping the nuclear weapons. Well, they weren’t going to have a nuclear weapon, but maybe they were going to have one. They were developing one, but they’ve been developing one for 50 years:

 

“Oh, well, we have to get rid of the Ayatollah.”

 

Well, you’ve already said that, but then you said that wasn’t the reason. And you’re looking at Trump and it’s almost schizophrenic.

 

And you can see that in four weeks of Iran, there has been less consistency, more chaos, more lies, more uncertainty and more humiliations for Trump than there was really for Bush and the Americans in the whole of the Iraq war.

 

Now, I know more soldiers, more American soldiers died in the Iraq war, but Bush didn’t claim he was negotiating with the Iraqi leaders, only for them to release a press statement saying:

 

“We’ve not even spoken to this guy. He’s a clown, he’s making it up.”

 

I mean, the world’s looking at him thinking, what are you doing? You know, mainstream newspapers are producing memes or cartoons where Trump’s talking to himself in the mirror. Saying:

 

“These negotiations are going very well indeed!”

 

You know, he looks like a madman. He’s isolated, cut off. There’s reports that he’s had some arguments with Israel, which is insane because he basically works for them. And it’s quite hard to understand where he’ll go next. You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if I woke up in the morning and Trump had said:

 

“It’s over! We’ve proved everything we’ve needed to prove. We’re backing away. They’ve agreed to no more nuclear missiles. I’m the President of peace because I’ve got rid of nukes in the Middle East!”

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did that. If I woke up in the morning and 40,000 Marines were headed to Iran for a full on ground invasion, I wouldn’t be surprised about that either because it’s just total chaos! And the people he’s surrounding himself with are the worst of the worst! Pete Hegseth, he’s not a professional. You know, he’s a, I think he was a Fox News analyst. They’re people who are sycophants. And employing sycophants, it might make you feel good, but they’re not the right people. You know, if you say:

 

“Well, who are you going to employ as your doctor? This guy who doesn’t really agree with you on a lot of things, but he’s a trained medical professional or your best mate who watched a couple of episodes of Casualty once?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Well, I’m your best mate. You know, I have watched a few TV documentaries on surgery, so employ me!”

 

You’re not going to employ your best mate just because he’s your best mate. But Trump, unfortunately, has employed all of his, like, low IQ mates who can’t actually do the job. And it’s not really working out for him, is it?

 

Blair Cottrell: A friend of mine uses a term, “quantum politics”. Basically, it means that in Modern Politics, it’s like everything is happening and not happening at the same time. Trump is invading Iran! He’s not! He is at war with Iran, but he’s also not! He’s going to keep bombing Iran. He’s not! The straits open, the straits closed! It’s like, which do you want to believe? And the Internet is just so overloaded with opposing viewpoints that are representing opposite realities that whatever you want to believe is there for you to believe if you choose to.

 

And I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing for average people. It’s probably not a good thing. Probably better for everyone to be kept on the same page by a more centralised source of information. But usually when that happens, the centralised source of information is controlled by the wrong people.

 

So, look, I agree with you. I agree with you. I’ve been watching, I’ve been reading too much and watching too much about this conflict between America and Iran. Israel, America and Iran, or just the Middle East, however you want to describe this. I’ve been reading and studying it so much, reading about and studying it so much that it seems to have almost affected my outlook on life generally. I’ve become much more cynical and negative. And I noticed this in myself a few days ago because I was starting to think, what’s even the point of going to work today? And I realised its because my mind is so fixated on these broader worldly matters. This foreign conflict, which isn’t necessarily consequential to me right now!

 

And so I pulled myself up and for the last couple of days, I haven’t been looking into it as much. Because I’m learning so much as this conflict unfolds, it’s like every 30 minutes there’s something new happening that I didn’t understand, I initially don’t understand, and then I begin to understand it. There’s so much I can say about it. I’ll do my best to be concise, give you my opinions.

 

Trump seems to be embarrassed. He’s visibly embarrassed and frustrated. Okay, when he says that Iran is begging to make a deal, clearly that’s not the case. Truth. Maybe people are telling him that and maybe he’s believing it, maybe they’re saying it to make him feel better.

 

But look, hats off to the guy for basically taking over America and just doing whatever he wants, going into other countries, bombing schools, stealing leaders, kidnapping leaders, and starting wars that he just writes off as military operations. They’re not actually wars for legal reasons. The guy has basically taken over America and is now the commander in chief of what is understood to be the most powerful military in the world.*

 

[* No, Trump is a puppet of ZOG and is their PR front man/actor entertaining and befuddling the masses with his antics. Same with all the other jokers that are presented as making decisions – Kat]

 

And I’m sure various statesmen and politicians in the recent, in recent history have dreamt of doing that with America, but never quite got there. They had to go through the proper processes, the Congress and whatever else goes on with the bureaucratic procedures there.

 

But Trump, to use a Churchill expression, seems to have “gripped America by the hair on its head” and is doing whatever he wants with its forces. Look, some people are saying they’re going as far as suggesting that it’s just a proxy war and an excuse to cause economic chaos, to bring about 15 Minute Cities, get rid of meat, get rid of petrol, cars, you know, Agenda 2030, that kind of stuff. And that very much could be the case. But for us mortals down here on the bottom plane, where we unfortunately have to reside, all we can do is speculate about stuff like that.

 

[52:04]

 

However, based on the way things are panned out and based on what I’m hearing, what I’m seeing from all the different sources of information I’m getting on the war, I do feel it will escalate quite sharply over the Easter weekend. That’s this weekend.

 

Basically, if Trump is going to send in ground forces to secure oil infrastructure, which it looks like he might want to do, however, he’s making it seem like he doesn’t need to do that. He’s making it seem like America has plenty of oil:

 

“I don’t even care about the Strait of Hormuz! (He’s saying) if Australia, Europe, England, if you guys want oil, go to the Strait of Hormuz and open it yourself!”

 

It’s almost like a dismissive, passive-aggressive statement too, because I think he feels let down by the lack of support from Europe, from England and Australia as well. I think he expected them to send some war boats and there was going to be some coalition. You know:

 

“The cool guys are going to come in together, the boys are going to come in together. And reopen the strait forcibly and then go into Iran and conquer it together!”

 

I think Trump felt like that he could, with one word and no real process, just summon all the forces of the world to his bidding. And because that didn’t happen, he’s now saying:

 

“Well, screw you guys like I don’t even care about you. If you guys want something, you go take it for yourself. I’m not babysitting you anymore.”

 

So that and other things seem to be demonstrating to me that the world is receding, reverting back into a place that consists more of exclusive empires that are a little more independent and self sufficient, that the world of the future won’t be so interconnected and countries around the world won’t be so dependent on very volatile and unreliable sources, routes of resources.

 

Australia, for example, doesn’t actually logistically need the Strait of Hormuz. It does because it hasn’t got the infrastructure to pump its own oil out of the ground. But we have up to 50 years of oil to refine and provide to keep our country going at its current consumption rate, for about 50 years. And I’m sure we could find ways to stretch that out to make it even longer. But because of globalism and politicians that are just generally unscrupulous, they cave to foreign market planning and manipulation, they’re easily bought off, easily led into traps. Politicians over the last few decades in Australia have literally shut down all of Australia’s oil refineries, have built no infrastructure to pump our own oil out of the ground, and are just buying everything from overseas!

 

But we don’t even have 30 days worth of diesel or petrol stored in this country. So we rely on places or routes of resource, routes like the Strait of Hormuz. We rely on that not because we actually need it, because we do have what we need here in this country, but just because of weak and unscrupulous scrupulous leadership, just corrupt leadership that sells out to the international market and leaves the country completely open to foreign market manipulation. That’s why, like Albanese doesn’t want to say it, the Australian government officials don’t want to say it.

 

But the reason petrol prices, diesel prices are so high, yes, it’s downstream from the war in Iran, but the real reason is because the political class in Australia has left Australia open to this manipulation. These volatile regions in the world, because they’ve refused to make our country self sufficient. They’ve plugged us into the global matrix. Even though it was a very unreliable and bad decision, they plugged us into this globalist system and now Australia is suffering the consequences when we never needed to be plugged in the first place, which is the frustrating thing!

 

But look, you know what the truth is, Mark? The truth is the if Trump is going to send ground forces into Iran, he’s going to have to bomb the shit out of it beforehand. He’s going to have to decimate the Iranian forces to make it more accessible to American troops, because otherwise American troops are going to get smashed!

 

I mean, they’ll win, they’ll eventually win, but they’ll incur heavy losses. And there’s been talk about dropping a nuke on Iran, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it. I wouldn’t be surprised. Israel would do it in a heartbeat. Israel’s like, think of it this way, Mark. Trump’s war room. I guarantee you this has happened. Trump’s war room. One AM, one night, someone said:

 

“We could just nuke them!”

 

And then there was some low chuckles around the table. And then the guy who said that made the comment in the first place, he leaned back and as the laughter died down, they all exchanged some looks and he goes:

 

“I’m serious, we could.”

 

And then the response would have been:

 

“What kind of what shape are our nuclear facilities? What shape are they in? Have we tested a nuclear bomb in the last few years? Do they even work? Can someone look into this?”

 

[57:09]

 

 

So that’s what’s happening right now in America, or that probably happened three weeks ago. So and Israel will nuke the shit out of Iran in a heartbeat! They don’t care! They don’t care about anyone who’s not jewish. They’ll nuke the shit out of Iran. And America has dropped an atomic bomb called Little Boy on Japan, after Japan refused to surrender at the end of World War II. So there’s nothing, there’s no humanitarian barrier for them doing this. If it means a faster end of the war and getting rid of Iran as an opponent in the region, then they’d be considering it, that’d be seriously considering it. And I think there’s been open talk about it, too, coming out of your Israel, maybe.

 

But I’m just trying to focus on what it means for us down here in Australia, as I’m sure you’re trying to think about what it means for England. And my gut feeling, because I’ve carried on about this for some time now, my gut feeling is that what this means is there is going to be a reshaping of the world to some extent. This is going to change our lives permanently. It’s going to change the way things roll out.

 

We just had an address to the nation, as I think you guys did too, from Kier Starmer. We had an address to the nation from Anthony Albanese. And Donald Trump also gave an address to the nation regarding the price of fuel and the effect that the war is having on the global economy. But what’s curious is this address to the nation. I don’t know what yours was like, but it was kind of a nothing burger! There was not really much in it. It was just “everyone needs to do their part”, lines like that:

 

“Use less fuel, drive less if you can, and everyone needs to do their part to get us through this difficult time.”

 

So really, there was no point in anything that Albanese said in this address to the nation. But the last time there was an address to the nation by England, Australia and America simultaneously at the same time, that was just prior to the Covid dilemma and the lockdowns.

 

And a lot of people think that we could run dry of fuel to the extent where people are confined to certain regions, driving a petrol car will be viewed as something abhorrent that you shouldn’t be doing because it’s too costly and it’s bad for the environment. Obviously, there’s elitists in the world who aren’t going to waste this opportunity to impose a sort of regime like that there are people in the world who want people to live in a regime like that. And this looks like it could be a very good opportunity to impose something like that. So we’ll see what happens.

 

But I’m just curious to see what’s going to happen over this weekend, this Easter weekend. I feel like it will be, I don’t know, I don’t want to say decisive. I don’t know if there’s anything that can bring about a fast end to the war. Trump doesn’t want to be embarrassed. He’s looking for the least embarrassing exit from the situation, but there’s no way to get out of it without sort of either acknowledging some level of defeat or dropping a nuke and just decimating the out of him. So then he can finally say:

 

“Hey, I told you I won. They said they wanted to do a deal, but then they wouldn’t agree, so we took him out! Fuck them!”

 

You know, something like that. If he’s going to be driven by ego, he could do something like that, and I’m sure Israel would back it. But it’s a terrible thing when something like this happens. I suppose I’m getting a bit softer as I get older and I think about children getting killed. I think about this school that’s being blown up, the girls school, and you think more about that stuff, especially when you’ve got people in the family having children, you Mark have your own children, you get a little bit softer on the humanitarian side of things, despite us being depicted by mainstream media as “gruesome fascists”. You know, it leaves you with a bad feeling when you see the kind of devastation that war like this causes for people that aren’t even involved and don’t want to be involved, for people who are just trying to live their lives. And that’s I suppose that’s always just a consideration in war or it’s a consideration for some people, for some people that are considerate at all!

 

But how do you think it’s going to go? What do you think the point is?

 

[1:01:08]

 

Mark Collett: As I said earlier, there’s so much chaos around this, it’s difficult to ascertain. So the other day Trump was saying:

 

“Well, we’re in this to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.”

 

Well, the Strait of Hormuz was open until you started this! You know, it was your meddling interventionism nonsense, naked aggression that closed the Strait of Hormuz. It wasn’t Iran, it was America’s actions that led to the Strait of Hormuz being closed.

 

But now one of the reasons we’re doing this is for energy stability. Well, we had energy stability until this began, until America started off down this route. And as I said with Trump, I think there was something on the Daily Mail site earlier, Trump had made another. I’ll see if it’s still there. But Trump’s all over the place!

 

So this is one of the things:

 

“Trump reveals he’ll torch NATO in landmark speech tonight as he absolutely threatens to quit disgusting alliance.”

 

So here’s Trump sperging out because no one wants to be involved in the conflict. You know, that’s pretty telling about the mental state he’s in, that he’s not calling meetings.* He isn’t getting people together and saying:

 

“Right, let’s get all the heads of NATO around to discuss this, discuss what we should do.”

 

He’s just saying:

 

“Right, I’m going to make a speech and tell everyone they’re absolute asses in front of the world’s media, because that’s going to make things better!”

 

I think there was something earlier today and I’m looking for it in the news feed, but I can’t find it. And it was about, …

 

[* Trump’s chaotic behaviour is all just theatrics for public consumption as a kind of live stream drama. Real calculated decisions are made behind the ZOG curtain.]

 

Blair Cottrell: He seems to be doubting that much of Europe even has the military might or the will to help anyone in any war.

 

And the problem with a lot of Europe, especially Western Europe, England has the same problem as Australia, is they’re so locked down in a demographic crisis with mass immigration just basically tearing the countries apart, tearing England apart, tearing Australia, dividing Australia, that neither country is in a position to support anyone’s war.

 

I wrote about that in a Telegram post recently. Like, we have such a large Muslim population that’s influential. If Australia openly supported a war against a Muslim country, you’ve got like war on the streets in some suburbs here that are heavily Muslim populated. You’ve got a massively increased threshold of terrorism and possibility of terrorism suddenly. So getting into any foreign war for England or Australia means chaos for us in our streets, in our homes! And I think, like that’s what kind of prevented Australia from supporting Trump’s war more directly.

 

Mark Collett: Well, another headline that was up today:

 

“Trump says Iran’s new leader has asked for a ceasefire and he’s considering it if Hormuz is opened. Britain to host 35 nation talks on reopening the Strait of Hormuz and getting oil and gas flowing again to the lower prices. After Trump’s get your own outburst.”

 

It’s complete chaos. And this is what I mean about the Iraq war. The Iraq war wasn’t a good thing. It wasn’t a just thing. It was a terrible thing! But despite all of those assessments, it was at least something that seemed orderly. And the countries that participated had clear goals and they did things in a way that seemed militarily expedient. And anything could happen next.

 

But I mean, look, it’s like these 15 Minute Cities, okay? Now, people are going to crucify me for saying this, but Britain was full of 15 Minute Cities at one point. Britain was a country where people would bike or walk to the shops in their village because working class people didn’t have motor cars really in vast numbers until the 1980s. Both of my grandparents, both sets of my grandparents never even learnt to drive. They walked to the shops, they biked to the shops. They got their groceries from the local green grocers, the butchers, the bakers. It’s quite recent that every family had two motor cars. That’s something that’s a post 1980s change.

 

Now, if you said to me we were going back to a homogenous White nation where people, rather than using motor cars and going to the supermarket, walk down to the village green grocers to get their vegetables, went to the butchers, went to the bakers to get their goods every week, i’d be far happier with that than I am now with families piling into the car, driving 25 minutes to buy all of their food from a giant solar supermarket that has its foot on the neck of every farmer and supplier, driving down their quality of life and making this country a worse place. It’s a complex thing, and to me I see sort of threats and opportunities here.

 

Now, obviously, 15 Minute Cities are a dirty word, it’s a dirty concept now because everyone’s used to cars. But was Britain a better place when motor car ownership was less common and people use local services and amenities? Or is it better now when we’ve got rid of the trains, the bus services all the local shops and you just travel to out of town retail parks to buy you shopping. And even they’re closing down now because Amazon does it all. You know, if you want community back, you have to deal with community, you have to deal with your local butchers, your bakers, you have to go to the local shops, you have to know everyone in your village. You know, one of the things that atomized us was this idea that we’d all sit our own little cars and drive 30 minutes to get our food. You know, that wasn’t how this country ever was, until very recently.

 

So I’m not against people building local communities again. As for the war and whether that will do that, I doubt it. I should imagine that, if I was a betting man, I always bet on nothing really ever happening and things returning to normal. And if people say:

 

“Well, why do I, why do I bet on that?”

 

I bet on that because I lived through Covid and I saw people locked down in their houses, … Do you know what, this is weird, but there was a woman in my city centre the other week, probably the first I’ve seen in a while still wearing a Covid mask. So there are people still walking around in Covid masks.

 

[1:08:11]

 

But one of the things I’ve got to say is, the strange thing is a lot of people thought things would never go back to normal after Covid. There were a lot of content creators saying, when Covid hits:

 

“This is different, this is the game changer!”

 

But everything went back to normal. So somehow I always just foresee things going back to normal and are still just engaging in this slow decline towards minority status and the end of our people. That’s just how it’s been and how I foresee it. If I was a betting man now, as I said, I could wake up tomorrow morning and Trump’s new [word unclear], and you’re looking at it thinking:

 

“Oh, my God! Why did he do that?”

 

But he could also wake up tomorrow morning and he’s pulled everyone out and gone off in a huff saying:

 

“I’m not helping anyone again, and I’m starting my own version of NATO because I’m a big fat baby!”

 

You know, he is just. He is sort of so chaotic and wild, you honestly don’t know what he’s going to do.

 

And now he’s embroiled in problems at home, too, because it looks as if his anti-birthright citizenship bill, not bill, presidential decree, is going to fall as well at the Supreme Court. So he’s sort of embroiled in failure every which way. And if he seemed to be the president of failure, his own party will turn on him. Because he’s only got one sort of term as president left. He’s only got until the end of this term and then he’s done anyway, because you can’t be a president for three terms. But here’s the issue, Blair. There’s lots of politicians surrounding him that are banking on being a Congressman, or a Senator for many more terms. And if they’re eternally tied to Trump, if he goes down like the Hindenburg, they go down with him!

 

And I think what might restrain him is the fact that these midterms are coming up in November and that’s closer than you think. And there are many people within the Republicans who are getting very worried about their prospects of re-election and potentially a disastrous midterm election ending up leading to a second impeachment.

 

Blair Cottrell: Did things go back to normal after Covid? Do you really feel like they went back to normal the way they were before?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, people forgot about it. People got on with life. No one cares, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Ostensibly. But to me, it feels like post Covid society is like a pretend world that only resembles reality, a pretend world preceding some sort of vicious change. That’s what it feels like. Everyone’s retarded, Mark, and everyone hates each other now. That’s what Covid achieved. There’s so many people out there not working now with medical issues on a disability pension. You go down to the shopping centre in the middle of the week at like 11 o’clock in the morning or 2 o’ clock in the afternoon when everyone would typically be at work and there are so many people there! There are so many cars, you can’t even get a car park. And everyone is fat and bitter! Everyone is fat and bitter!

 

And I just think to myself every time I go out in public:

 

“This can’t go on much longer. Where’s this going? A colony which feeds its sick and it’s weak and puts the worst of itself first. Where’s that going? It’s going into the ground and it’s going into the ground within a generation or two!”

 

So I’m looking at this whole post Covid system and just how sick and embittered everybody is.

 

And in my heart, in my gut, I feel that it’s about to have a big full stop put on it! I don’t know how that’s going to happen, but, …

 

Mark Collett: Don’t you worry, Blair, that, don’t you worry because what you’re saying, I can’t argue with anything you’ve said. Okay. But don’t you worry that all these fat, useless, embittered, permanently sickly people who live off the state are all essentially in some kind of chains. Like I bet I think I know you pretty well. You’re an intelligent guy, but you’re resilient and you’re the kind of guy that wouldn’t like to live off anybody else. And if somebody said to you can live in a gilded cage, or you can be free and go and build a shack over by that watering hole and essentially live a harder life, but have total freedom over what you do, what you say, the way you think. Or you can live in this gilded cage and you can have lots of nice things and free money and computer games and TV, but you have to say the right thing and come out of your house and clap every night for the Covid special workers. I bet you’d go and live by the watering hole, build a shack and live free.

 

But most people wouldn’t!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, I might initially think:

 

“Well, the nice things sound pretty good. I might try that out.”

 

But then it wouldn’t last very long. Like within 48 hours I’ve already committed a hate crime and done some hate speech without even meaning it. And now I’m forced to go out to the shack, and I’ve probably got the coppers chasing me on my way there.

 

But yeah, I don’t know. What I’m trying to say is I’d be very surprised, I’d be very surprised if some society reshaping didn’t come about as a result of this Iran situation. I’d be very surprised. Because it’s a huge, it’s a huge opportunity, Mark. Even if it hasn’t been planned around this specific incident, even if this is Trump being wild, I think like the Strait of Hormuz being shut effectively is huge! It’s a huge excuse to suddenly shake up the economy and change the way things work. It’s a huge opportunity and I’d be surprised if elitists wasted it. I mean, at the very least it’s going to be used to make a lot of money and that’s already happening for some people in the right place.

 

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Mark Collett: It is! Yeah. And that’s how it’s going to be. But I worry that everything you’ve just described is going to lead our people further into chains. I mean, one thing I’ve noticed today, I was reading something, it said that one in eight children born today will be registered as disabled. That seems insane to me!

 

Blair Cottrell: It seems higher like that doesn’t even seem like it matches what I’m seeing in society. When you say one in eight, it feels more like one in four. And it probably will get there. And what’s this desire people have to be disabled?

 

Mark Collett: Oh, [chuckling] I was gonna say that!

 

Blair Cottrell: Why does it? Yeah, you’re gonna get to this, right? It’s almost like that’s your identity:

 

“I have this disability, I have this mental illness. This is who I am.”

 

Well, there’s two things at play there.

 

First of all, it’s financially incentivised. You get paid to be disabled, you get paid to have a mental illness, you get full-time care and you get to sit at home and do whatever you want on a government pension. When there’s a financial incentive to do something, people try to do it! And people will even lie and say that that’s what I am in order to get the money, in order to get the care, in order to get the benefits.

 

The second thing at play is people aren’t given any strong sense of identity or personal pride. We don’t live in a society that allows national or personal pride to any significant degree.

 

And so people are searching for identity, they’re looking for two things. They’re looking for money, they’re looking for identity. And disabilities, mental health crisis, whatever, mental health issues fill both those voids. They give them something to identify with:

 

“I’m bipolar now, I’m super ADHD depressive disorder. And that sort of is my whole existence.”

 

They’ll write it in their bio, on Instagram or something. That’s who they’re not Australian, they’re not English, they’re “ADHD, bipolar”. That’s their identity.

 

And like I said, they also need money. Everybody needs money and they get that from it as well! So this system is rewarding people and giving people identity for being retarded!

 

And so that’s why everyone is retarded! Because there’s incentive, there’s a reason, it’s very easy to understand. The way to stop that is to do the opposite is to actually incentivise people to be healthy, to take care of themselves is to reward people who are saying no to the immediate benefits and who are putting in the work to actually live a healthier lifestyle and build something to make themselves self sufficient. If the government would stop taking the easy route and just exploiting people’s base nature and selling them bullshit and convincing them that they’re super anxiety depressive disorder, so they could sell them drugs. You know, if there was incentive and reason for people to be healthy and strong, if there was a identity that they could plug into their national identity that they could take pride in, then they wouldn’t be searching for drugs and mental health issues to identify with in the first place. Right?

 

So that’s the essence of the problem. It’s very simple! Like people are doing what they’re paid to do and they’re doing what they feel identity for doing. You know, like this, the sense of identity.

 

Mark Collett: Do you know what, though? We’ll have to the Superchats thing. Not many people are Superchatting tonight, especially on Entropy. I don’t know if there’s a problem there. I’ve heard they’re having problems, or maybe no one wants to donate one or the other. But like it has been very sort of not really anyone has made a donation. Well, we’ve got one.

 

Blair Cottrell: Get some Superchats in, guys! If you’re watching this from Australia, it’s too early in Australia for most people.

 

Mark Collett: Come on, guys! If everyone gave a bloody dollar, they wouldn’t even notice it. But I’d be very happy, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Give some support to Mark Collett, man! Give some support, guys, come on!

 

Mark Collett: But look, I need to see.

 

Blair Cottrell: Open our hearts! Let’s open our hearts and open our wallets too. Ask us a question. Ask me a question. Ask Mark a question. Give us a subject matter and we’ll get into it. Let’s do it!

 

Mark Collett: But look, this is something I want to say. There’s two things I want to say here, Blair. One is I am a bit of a freak! And I want to admit this, right? When I collect computer games, I like the boxes to be in perfect condition. And if the corner of the box gets dented, because I drop it, it upsets me.

 

Now, I wouldn’t say I’m mentally ill, okay? I just like my boxes in good condition. I like everything on the wall in the right order and I like all the boxes to be neat and I like the labels on the games to be perfect.

 

Blair Cottrell: No, no. I think you need to go to a specialist. This sounds like, you need medication, … [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: This is what I mean, like today, but today a child will be playing in the sand pit and he’d be like, I don’t want to get my, like sand in the joints of my Power Ranger because it’ll ruin it. And somebody like:

 

“Whoa! You’ve got ADHD, kids better get him a diagnosis!”

 

So on one hand, everything today is a mental illness. You like to keep things nice. You’re mentally ill! You don’t want to do some of the things the other kids want to do. You’re mentally ill!

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s very self centred, isn’t it? Like you would need to be thinking a lot inwardly about yourself. I’ve said that before, that mental illness is like the religion of the self. It’s like:

 

“How can I develop this identity around my own lived experience, my own personal vessel, this vehicle that I’m in? Everything’s about me and my special demeanour and my special way of doing things. Here’s my bottle of special pills. It has my name on the bottle, see, it’s specially for me!”

 

Never mind that 60% of the population is in the exact same frame of mind, living in the exact same bubble, taking the relevant, same drugs. It’s not actually special. You’re just doing what everyone else is doing.

 

Mark Collett: It’s worse. Because the second part of what I was going to say before we do these couple of Superchats, is fundamentally, and this is the crazy thing, the parents are proud of it!

 

So when we were kids, if there was something wrong with you try to overcome what was wrong with you and you didn’t want people to know. So if somebody was ill, or somebody had something wrong with them, or like say you were slightly dyslexic, you would go to special classes, you would get special books, you do special things to try and overcome it, but you won’t wear a big badge saying, “I am dyslexic!”

 

And then there was a thing that came in where if you were dyslexic, you could have an extra 15 minutes in the examination room because you found it harder to understand the question. So you got a little bit more time. But now you might as well get a special hat, a sparkler, a big badge, and everyone wants the big badge!

 

And I’ll tell you this, as a dad who meets other parents, you get parents who come up to you and they boast about the autism, or the things that are wrong with their kids. So you will actually have parents who will come up to you and be like when you know, like kids in the playground talk about which Pokemon they’ve caught. They will talk about their kids mental illnesses, like their Pokemon, like:

 

“Gotta catch them all. This one’s got this one’s got that. He’s neurodivergent!”

 

And they love it!

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re all waiting to talk about themselves and their own kid. They’re not even listening to you. They’re all waiting for their turn to talk about their own problems. Imagine living in a community like that. Here’s the thing is, Mark, I’ve, since I was young, I’ve expressed plenty of qualities of ADHD, as I’m sure you’ve been told. You’ve got the same thing. Mild autism. Everyone’s always said that there’s something wrong with me, but I’m just like, even if there is, it’s just the way I’m wired, man! I’m not getting into it. I’m not going to get some fucking, pardon my language, some diagnosis. I’m not getting someone to tell me to categorize me.

 

Humans love to categorize each other, don’t they, Mark? You know why they do that? Because it helps them think, they understand things. It helps them feel like they’ve got it figured out when they really don’t know shit about anything! Even the, especially the experts. All these categories that we develop for different types of people, whether it’s ADHD or depression or autism or Asperger’s. I’m not saying these things don’t exist. There’s something going on that makes people, just neurologically different, unique. But developing these word based categories to make us think that we understand things is a very arrogant human endeavour. We don’t actually understand what’s going on. And we certainly can’t control it with drugs, but we can make money through drugs. And that’s what it’s all about, guys.

 

But I think this is why we’re talking about this as a problem. But I always like, because I’m a male, Mark’s male, so he probably thinks the same thing. I like to think of solutions. I like to just think about how do we get around this, how do we stop this happening instead of just complaining about it.

 

That’s why I’ve always been in favour of the Church making a comeback, a centralised religious institution. I know that these can become pretty corrupt as well. Or at least that’s what the mainstream media has led us to believe about the Church. Probably for subtle reasons. They’re probably trying to achieve an outcome where the Church didn’t have as much power anymore because it was a problem. It was a problem for selling junk to people, for selling drugs to people, and for bringing mass amounts of foreigners into your country. The church probably would have stood against that in its old form. So getting rid of the Church was a necessary step for whatever this excuse of a country we have now is.

 

But see, when you have a central church that everyone goes to on Sunday, when you have mass or something like that, when you have a religious structure that everyone kind of links into everyone’s Christian, whatever it might be, it doesn’t really matter what it is, just as long as everybody agrees that that’s the Church of the nation. Well then when someone else comes into your country and says:

 

“Bipolar disorder, here’s my Medicine for the cure!”

 

You say:

 

“No, no, like we don’t do that here. We go to church on Sunday, we talk to the priest if we have a problem, we don’t take drugs here. We don’t do this ADHD thing. Sorry mate!”

 

So you reject outside identities and efforts to try to sell shit, whether it’s pornography, the Church would be against that, whether it’s drugs, some other identifying factor that some grifter, some (((merchant))) is trying to sell to you’ll reject it on the basis that you already have a strong identity, a national religious identity.

 

[1:25:02]

 

And I think that’s what the benefit of having a strong central church was in the beginning. It basically makes people necessarily stubborn. You might say that people being closed minded as a result of being exposed to too much religious dogma is a bad thing! I would argue against that. I would say it’s a good thing. Because look what open mindedness has done to our country. When people don’t have that closed minded, “this is my country, this is my church” kind of mentality, then they just become a worm of consumption that accepts and consumes whatever it is that some merchant is trying to sell to them. Suddenly everything and everything just swamps that nation and it just becomes a place for merchants to decimate and exploit.

 

A strong church, I think would have, I think a big comeback from the Church would prevent that. I just don’t know if it’s possible. The ideal situation for a church to make a comeback actually, or the Church to make a comeback is people suffering, people really suffering. Because when you’re suffering, when you’ve actually got nothing left and you’re in a really bad place, that’s when you’ll find yourself hoping that God’s real and hoping that maybe he’ll listen.

 

Now I’m not even religious, guys. I’m not trying to shill Christianity, I’m not trying to shill a religion. I’m just saying that going or reverting back to a time, to a set of circumstances where we had a little bit more faith in something central and something unifying would protect us psychologically from the sort of bullshit ideologies and drugs and mental health crap that is so effectively sold to people today.

 

Mark Collett: Well, look, really quickly before we do the Superchats, something you said there. Something is something I said to Adam Green. Me and Adam Green had a bit of a debate the other week and by the way, David Duke has agreed to debate Adam Green. So we’re sorting that out. They’re gonna have a debate about Christianity, whether it was good for the West or bad for the West. Duke thinks Christianity was good. It was a uniting cause. It helped, you know, know Europe beat back Muslim invasions. Adam Green thinks it’s basically the biggest evil in the West. That debate’s going to happen.

 

But one thing I’ll ask you is “struggle”. You see, I actually like struggle and I think as a man without struggle, you are less of a man. And you go to the gym and I go to the gym, I don’t know whether you feel this way, but do you ever go to the gym and you work a muscle in a way that you haven’t worked it for some time, and the day or so later, you feel sore, but the soreness is kind of a constant reminder that you pushed your limits, that you sort of went to a new level.

 

And I actually like that! I like that sort of feeling that, like my body is reacting to the pressures I put upon it. And part of sort of improving is fighting through that discomfort. That’s why I liked running. I like that challenge, that struggle. And I think when you remove struggle from the life, especially of men, not so much women, but especially men, men without struggle do become worthless slobs!

 

And I think the comfort that we have been given by our masters, the bread and circuses, have a lot to answer for and why we are now weak.

 

Blair Cottrell: That soreness you’re talking about, the soreness in the muscles after having done some vigorous exercise, that is a signal that that muscle is regenerating. The cells in that region are regenerating. In order for those cells in the muscle to regenerate, they need a good amount of blood flow and a good amount of oxygen and a good amount of nutrients to come from the GI tract, the gut.

 

And that means the gut needs to work more efficiently in order to feed and repair the muscle. And so the gut does actually start to process and absorb nutrients at a superior rate than it would have if the muscle was not used.

 

What I’m saying is pretty simple to understand. If we’re not regenerating, then we’re just getting weaker, we’re dying. If you’re not suffering to some degree, it’s called the “fitness effect”, and it actually has been applied in a social, political sense by an author named David Kilcullen, who’s someone that I’ve read quite a bit. I actually brought him up in the speech that I gave at the conference you hosted. Not the last one, but the one before in the October conference in England.

 

It’s called the fitness effect, basically, and with the right amount of pressure, the organism we’re talking about, and here we’re talking about individual people, your biology. Your body gets stronger, it develops itself, and you just become stronger. Everything works better in your body because it has to. You’re creating a reason for your body to work more efficiently, so the experience of life becomes better, because the more efficiently the body’s working, the happier you’re going to feel, the better mood you’re going to be in the better your gut’s working, the better you’re going to feel. It’s very simple.

 

That’s why I don’t understand how people don’t stress their muscles to the bare minimum necessary degree each week, which I think is minimum three times per week in the gym for about an hour each time. You know, hitting things like squat, overhead press, deadlift, leg press, major compound movements that are going to stress your body and your central nervous system in a way that your body has to adapt, it’s forced to regenerate and therefore everything starts to turn over more efficiently because it has to in order to regenerate the muscle effectively.

 

[1:30:53]

 

 

So muscle mass actually is one of the, scientifically, one of the greatest determiners of longevity. Meaning generally speaking, the more muscle you have, the longer you live. And that ties exactly into what I’m saying, because in order for your body to retain, to build and retain more muscle, your cellular regeneration process, your gut, your brain, your nervous system, everything has to fire optimally in order to make that happen. And if you’re putting your body under the necessary stress, the bare minimum three times a week in the gym, and you’re giving your body a reason to have that extra muscle mass, then everything in your body has the reason to operate efficiently. It’s like a machine getting greased up, so to speak. But it’s much more complex really because of our turnover, our cell regeneration system.

 

Yeah, if you’re not training, you’re dying. You’re not getting stronger, you’re getting weaker. There’s no average existence where you can just sit at and stay healthy. If you just do nothing, you just get fatter and sicker and sadder and weaker. Gradually you always have to be exposed to that bare minimum level of stress, which in my view is three times a week, three hours in the gym doing the major compound exercises relatively heavy.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Well, let’s do these Superchats. Thank you to everyone who has Superchatted. There’s still plenty of time if you want to. We’ve had one from Open Borders for Israel for $5. Thank you so much! He said:

 

“Hail Blair. Would be good to get him on for a PA Aussie movie night, maybe. Rabbit Proof Fence?”

 

Yeah, we do movie reviews once a month and you’ve not actually been a guest. I don’t know if you’re a fan of movies, but if you chose a movie, we’d be happy to review it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on, hang on, you guys you do movie reviews personally?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’d be awesome! I’ve done one for. What was it? Guide to Kulture? Do you know Guide to Kulture?

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I do. I’ve done them. I’ve done every one of his film festivals all. So yeah, I know. We literally do a movie every month. We must have done probably about 50 or 60 movies now.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe my review wasn’t so good, but I’ll try to find it. I did a review on Good Time with Robert Pattinson. Have you seen that?

 

Mark Collett: No, I’ve not even heard of that, to be honest.

 

Blair Cottrell: I reckon, write that down, Mark, because I reckon, and you guys in the audience, too. It’s a very underrated film. It’s a very simple plot. It just starts with a bank robbery, but it’s set in modern America. And I find it very gritty and realistic! And I find the main character very interesting to psychoanalyze. He’s clearly mildly sociopathic, but he’s intelligent and it’s entertaining and fascinating to see how he deals with the degrading circumstances after this bank robbery. So good time with Robert Pattinson, actually I really rate Robert Pattinson as an actor.

 

Mark Collett: He’s a great actor. He did a version of Batman. He was really good at that.

 

Blair Cottrell: He was, but he’s also talented. He’s the kind of guy who can do a lot. He’s a musician and he can play different roles. He doesn’t always play the same role over and over again! He can play a different character, which I think is a good indication of talent in acting.

 

Mark Collett: I agree. And as I said, I thought he was going to be terrible as a new Batman. And when I saw him as Batman man, I thought it was a really enjoyable film. And I was actually looking forward to the sequel. I’m not a guy that usually looks forward to sequels. But, yeah, he was good. He was very good.

 

So if you want to choose a movie, Blair, you’d be welcome on any month. All you have to do, choose one. And we will get you booked.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is it always movies or can it be shows? Does it have to be a film?

 

Mark Collett: We’ll usually do a film. I’ve just looked it up. We’ve reviewed 57 films. It’s actually 59 because some have been double features where we reviewed two films together that are both linked. So we did Zulu and Zulu Dawn and we’ve also done several comparisons where we’ve done the original Snow White and the modern Snow White or we’ve done the original Running Man and the new Running Man.

 

Blair Cottrell: I can imagine there’s a breakdown of modern propaganda.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. Two hours long. This little panel who are regular us. But look, pick a film, tell me when you’re free, and we’ll get you booked in. It’d be very good. Purple Sage gave $10. Thank you. And he said:

 

“Thank you both for all you do.”

 

Well, thank you so much, my friend. It’s very kind of you to donate. Kenny Smith gave $10. Thank [chuckling] you so much:

 

“Sir, I’ll be fine in any food shortages thanks to my fat stores. All those kebabs will pay off!”

 

Thank [chuckling] you. Full Camelot gave $3. Thank you so much! And he said:

 

“Well, Blair, Victoria is the Garden State. Absolutely! I had a ZD Fairlane V8 dual fuel. And regularly travelled south to volcanic bush and rock beach, camping alone for days. Return to society refreshed.”

 

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Blair Cottrell: My dad had a Fairlane. I remember when I was 18, I just got my driver’s licence a couple of weeks prior. And I asked my dad if I could borrow the car. I had this date organised with a girl, and my dad said:

 

“No, because you’re not on the insurance, if you crash it, then., …”

 

And I said:

 

Ahh! Anyhow he had two cars, so he went out somewhere. So I took it anyway. Of course, I’m 18! I’m gonna take his car anyway. Took his car, went on the date, came back. When I came back, he was home. I got punched in the face for it! So, yeah, it was a tough gig being 18.

 

 

Mark Collett: Do you know what? I always find it really strange because you meet people that have had a fight with their dad and have been punched in the face by their dad. And have fought back, and then you meet other guys and you say, like:

 

“Have you ever punched your dad in the face?”

 

And they say:

 

“No, no, me and my dad have never had that.”

 

Blair Cottrell: I wouldn’t do it. No, no, I wouldn’t do it! My dad’s the only person I wouldn’t hit back. My dad’s only hit me once, actually. It was this car thing. I don’t know why I think it was, …

 

Mark Collett: You’ve never actually had a, … Have you ever had a fight with your dad? So you’ve never actually had a fight?

 

Blair Cottrell: No, no, never! No. And my dad’s the only bloke that if he hit me, I’ll just stand there and take it. I wouldn’t hit him back. Never!

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. I don’t have that level of restraint. Me and my dad when I was younger we have had sort of physical altercations because I was quite wild at times and you know, it’s not something I’m sort of like mega proud of, but as a young guy I find it kind of weird when you meet people that have never had any kind of altercation with their dad. I could never understand that. Because I often did things where I did deserve a sound whacking. You know, I could be quite, I could do stupid things but then be quite sort of unrepentant or cheeky!

 

Blair Cottrell: I got a funny story, I got a small funny story I can interject with. Like my dad and I definitely had some rows. Is that how you say it? Rose or rows? Yeah. We had some, we had some disagreements and, but we didn’t want to hurt each other because my dad, his father, my grandfather, he used to beat the shit out of my dad. So my dad was against hitting me. He didn’t want to do that to his son.

 

But you know, maybe he needed to sometimes because I was a real little shit! But one day he just broke my computer. He broke my computer in a rage because I can’t remember the reason I hadn’t done something. And he was so frustrated that I hadn’t done it that he saw my computer sitting there and I had World of Warcraft sitting there just idle. I’d been playing it. And he just broke it. I remember he threw it across the room and it broke.

 

So then I went and took his big sliding saw, expensive Makita sliding saw out of his shed that next day and I took it down to The Pawnbroker and I swapped it for a new computer! I did a deal with The Pawnbroker! And then he noticed a week later that his sliding saw was gone. So he came in and sort of, he said:

 

“Where’s my sliding saw?”

 

And I said:

 

“Well you broke my computer and you didn’t pay for it. So it had to be replaced, dad. That’s the way things work!”

 

So you know what I mean? There was, that’s the sort of run-ins that I’d have with my dad.

 

 

Mark Collett: Well, I can tell you this. I have had physical altercations with my dad and I have fought back as a young guy but I would never have been bold enough to have taken something my father’s and sell it because he would have, I think the thrashing at that point, I wouldn’t have I. As a young man, I never got the better of my dad. I mean, now things are different. Obviously he’s like an older man. So like if he got mad with me, I’m not gonna start going give him a good kicking.

 

But as a kid, I did get up to things that I shouldn’t have done and there was a couple of situations where he gave me really sound advice, and I didn’t take it, to sort of my detriment. And it was one of those things where I probably should have listened to him a little bit more when I was younger and being sort of, … But when you’re young, your head-strong, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Did your dad try to get you to buy property early?

 

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Mark Collett: No, my dad, my dad sort of, it’s kind of strange because my dad was obviously a big part of my life, but I used to talk to my mom more about decisions that I was going to make. And it was one of those things where I was very close to my mum and obviously she passed away a few years and sort of left a big hole in my life. But I was brought up in a world where mum was the stay at home mum. Your dad was out at work nearly all the time. You spent very little time with your dad as a kid, but you spent a lot of time with your mum. And because of that, I was kind of super close with her and my mum was. My mum and dad were both really political, but my mum was sort of super uber political! So she loved talking about politics, like constantly. And that was something where me and her could speak for like an hour or so on the phone about the way the world was, how things were.

 

And so it’s not that I’m not close with my dad, but I was just super close with my mum. So when it came to that kind of advice, I take more time talking things through with my mum than my dad, to be honest. Who were you sort of closer with? Was it your dad who was the advice giver or your mom?

 

Blair Cottrell: My dad was a very quiet, hard working man. He was just always at work. His only day off he would take me to either track and field athletics or football when I was a kid and he would volunteer as an umpire. My dad was the kind of guy who showed affection, he showed his dedication to you through action. He didn’t really say like, I’ve never hugged my dad, never in my life. That we just didn’t have that physical relationship at all! But he would do a lot for me. He would spend his only day off taking me to football and volunteering to help out, that kind of stuff. So he was just the strong silent type sort of thing.

 

And I think he felt like showing me any affection would perhaps portray weakness. And he thought that that would be wrong because he was always trying to demonstrate himself as a strong father, you know, someone to aspire to. And I appreciate that. I understand it. Probably I’ll be much the same with my own son. But we’ll move on from the dad subject in a sec. What was the last thing I was gonna say? My dad used to own property and he used to tell me that I need to buy property, even if it’s a block of land. He said:

 

“Just buy something!”

 

Because I was making a lot of money when I was young, because thanks to my dad as well, he got me various jobs with big building companies. I was a supervisor for a building company when I was only 18, somehow. All the other supervisors were like 50 year old builders and carpenters. And here I am playing a supervisory role thanks to my dad. My dad’s like:

 

“Buy property, mate! Take some of this money you make him and put it into property. Your future self will thank you for it.”

 

But because my dad was always so stressed and broke, I thought:

 

“The old prick just wants me to be miserable like him. He’s just pissed off that I’ve got money, so I’m not going to listen to him!”

 

And I’m thinking to myself:

 

“You idiot! You idiot!”

 

If I did buy property when I was young, I probably, I’d be in a position right now where I wouldn’t even have to work full-time. But because I didn’t listen. Yeah, but that’s just classic hindsight.

 

Mark Collett: Oh, my dad he’s a very good man and he is a nationalist, but sort of his sort of era of man was a man that didn’t spend a huge amount of time with the family. You spent time with him on a Sunday, maybe a little bit on a Saturday. But dads of that era were always at work, they were always doing everything and they showed their love for their family by providing. This is an odd thing because today everyone’s sort of programmed that your dad shows love for you with loads of hugs and doing everything with you. But back then the dads were and more or less every dad, all my friends dads were the same. They were always out at work, they were up super early, they went out to work, they brought home, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You respected him, right? You wouldn’t act up around, because you respected him. And you kind of feed him a little bit too, in a healthy way. When it was just mom, you knew you could get away with a bit more. You knew you could act up a little bit, you could eat a little bit extra if you could sneak stuff out of the cupboard, whatever. But when dad was around, you didn’t act up because you didn’t give your dad any shit! You respected your dad.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. And not only that, but because you knew how hard your dad worked when he was in the house you wouldn’t be raucous. Like, if it was just your mum around and you had your friends over or you were fighting with your sister. You knew that was kind of all right because Mum sort of put up with that because she was there to sort of oversee you as kids and that was her day job. So:

 

“Sod it! I’m gonna make noise and be a bit crazy!”

 

But if your dad came in and had a long day at work, there was no jumping on the sofa. There was no hooting and hollering and chucking things about. You were respectful. You cleaned up your toys. You did your best because you knew that dad had., … And your mom would be like:

 

“Don’t you be doing this when your dad comes home. Because he’s been out since, you know, 7:30 this morning. He’s had a long day and when he comes in, he doesn’t want you to be playing hell. He wants to come into a respectful family.”

 

And I think these things are largely gone now.

 

[1:45:23]

 

Blair Cottrell: That dynamic was essential from my upbringing, really. I think. Like, my mom could say a thousand words to me and get no result, trying to get me to do something, but my dad just had to speak once, just say a few words, and I would do it straight away.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: And I fear the person I might have become if I didn’t have my dad in my life. I probably would have become a much more relentless criminal. Because I feared my dad that kept me, it had some sort of influence over me, which was positive.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, I agree. Similar with me. The Resident Baker gave $20. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Evening, Mark. I was going to give some money to charity for some new jewish ambulances. However, I’ve reconsidered because I don’t really like jewish ambulances and you’re a much more worthy cause.”

 

Thank you so much! [chuckling] I’ve got a video coming out at the weekend about the jewish ambulances, so look out for that. That’s the end of the Entropy Superchats. We’re going to go over to Rumble now.

 

Come on, guys, the Entropy fans. Where were you tonight? The bearded Indian gave $8. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Blair, have you ever brought bread from a man in Brussels who was 6 foot 4 and full of muscles, big love, praying for Joel and the political prisoners.”

 

I get that. I love that song. And you could be the man in Brussels who was also a man from down under, if you listen to the song.

 

Blair Cottrell: I think there’s a sad story behind that song, actually. I won’t tell it because I don’t know it, but I’m pretty sure that song, or maybe it’s not that song. But there’s a stereotypical iconic Australian song that was actually stolen from someone and they lost the rights to it and stuff like that. But anyway, I understand the pun, so I appreciate it.

 

Mark Collett: One of the sad things about Men at Work, the guys who did it, they all sort of fell out with each other. And the original lineup of Men at Work, they’re not all sort of still together. And I don’t think they actually speak to each other, which is really sad! So now there is only one member of Men at Work left, which is the main guy, Colin Hay. But all of the other guys and the ones who came up with the iconic songs, they’ve all left. And I find that quite sad because it’d be nice if after all this time, they were still playing gigs together. But no, it’s just they, …

 

Blair Cottrell: To me, it’s always weird how people fall out. I’ve never fully fallen out with anyone. You know, people have done things upset me and haven’t done the right thing by me always. But I still like to think about the good times I have with those people. So I never really fall out with anyone. Like when I call someone my friend, it’s like a lifelong thing for me. But I suppose, you know, things happen to some people that are bad enough that bridges are burned. I just try not to burn bridges, personally,

 

Mark Collett: I think in the musical world it’s a common thing because I think you’re stuck together with people. When you’re touring, you’re always with them. And then often people have different ideas of where they want their band or their group to go. And I think it’s a very different world. I think that’s a commonplace thing. Bod Nielsen gave three gifted subscriptions. Thank you so much! If you get a gifted subscript subscription, please do keep it up.

 

Blair Cottrell: What is a gifted subscription? Is that like a, …

 

Mark Collett: On Rumble you can gift subscriptions that anyone can claim and then they can keep them going if they want. So the idea is that you get paid subscribers. So say I had 200 paid subscribers at $5 a month from each one. That means you’re gonna get a thousand dollars American every month less the processing fee. And it’s just obviously everyone’s dream is to get to the point where as a content creator, rather than having to sort of hope and pray for Superchats, you end up getting the other stuff where people just gift.

 

And that’s the key thing. Like if you’re on some kind of thing where everyone, a thousand of your supporters gave you $5 a month at the beginning of every month, you don’t have to worry and you don’t have to do Superchats, you know what I mean? It’s just one of the sort of things of how it works, basically. But thank you for giving the gifted subs and if you do get a gifted subs, please maintain it because it means a lot to me. So thank you so much!

 

Serena JB gave $8. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Love to all our fellow nationalists in Australia, especially to Joel.”

 

Thank you very much. Purple sage gave $10 and thank you and said:

 

“Thank you both for all you do.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Einsky gave $5. Thank you so much! He said:

 

“Hail to you, Mark and Blair. Powerful show and powerful takes. Struggle is the father of all things.”

 

Well, I agree. Hazelnut 3,000 gave $10. Thank you and said:

 

“Thank you. Mark and Blair.”

 

Do you know, this is just a little an aside here, but I remember reading about the butterfly. And butterflies struggle coming out of their cocoon, but if you cut the cocoon open and you help the butterfly out, it basically retards the butterfly and it can’t then operate. The butterfly needs that struggle in order to get out. Conversely, it’s different for chickens coming out of eggs. If you are hatching chickens and you don’t wet the eggs and soften them, the chickens actually do need a hand getting out of the eggs, they die.

 

[1:50:45]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s so much balance to be considered in these things. And I think the female role in this process is to empathize with the creature in the immediate sense and the masculine role is to kind of empathize with the broader implications of what you’re doing in the moment. So women will always, or the more feminine creatures or people, they’ll always try to help the person in the moment, make the person feel good in the moment. And that’s the way feminine empathy is expressed.

 

Whereas, whereas male empathy will be allow whatever it is to figure it out for itself and interfere not so much in the moment in order that things are stronger and more developed in a broader sense. More of a, what do you call it, survival of the fittest type thing. That’s like mass masculine altruism, you might say, whereas the feminine altruism is much more immediate.

 

But I think having a balance of those things, because they’re both very natural expressions, aren’t they? It’s like one isn’t bad or worse than the other. I think when you go one way too far, like modern society has gone way too far to the feminine, well then you end up with a weak and sickly society because everyone gets cared for in the moment too much. They get what they want in the moment, what they feel like, they get validated too much for not really doing anything of value.

 

So I think in future, as Tom Sewell would say, when we take this country, when we take control, when we take power, we need to strike a really appropriate balance between those two forces and we need to maintain it and really prevent things from going too far one way or the other.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. The Bearded Indian gave $6. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“The Trump or the police aren’t victims because they’re being misled. They are self serving pigs who’ll step on anyone to keep their snout in the trough. They know exactly what they’re doing.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Igs 22, gave $5. Thank you so much! And he said:

 

“I stayed with an Italian family in Lima, Peru. Both sons, 40, live at home with partners. They pool resources and own four successful businesses. Should we teach our kids to build wealth as a family unit?”

 

Well, that’s a very interesting question. My answer to that would be, I would love my children to grow up near me and have a relationship with them longer and later in life. I moved away from where my parents are, but I do also think it’s important for people to have space.

 

So for example if my daughter met a nice guy and they wanted to settle down, I would want to help them get their own house. I’d want to help them settle, settle down so they have their own space. Because I don’t think you can truly flourish as a young couple if you’re living under the roof of one of your parents. So I do understand that people in some cultures have these large family gatherings under one roof. But I think as a young couple, it’s nice to have your own space and to be able to branch out a little bit. It’s nice to have the parents there and the extended family close, but too close, I think can be stifling. What do you think, Blair?

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, you don’t want to live under the same roof as like too many different families, extended family, friends. Living under the same roof with friends is actually the fastest way to ruin relationships with friends because you get to see what your friend is actually like most of the time. Like cracks start to appear, laziness, stuff like that. And it’s really problematic for ongoing friendships and even living with family sometimes. People end up really disliking their own siblings if they [chuckling] spend too much time too close to each other.

 

So everyone needs their space. That’s why we all go to our own bedrooms at the end of the day. So even if you’re living in a community based environment, everyone having their own space, space, like even if it’s on the same property, you have different little houses on the same property that you can go to and you still have your room, your office, your bedroom you can retreat to at the end of the day. I think that’s really important, especially important for me. I like to spend a long, long periods of time alone. Actually people close to me say they don’t know anyone, they’ve said that they don’t know anyone who needs as much time to himself as I do.

 

So it’s really important for some people it’s just a necessary facet of the human condition, I think.

 

Mark Collett: I completely agree! I like time on my own. And I don’t understand people who always have to be, …

 

[1:55:21]

 

Blair Cottrell: I watched a video recently, the top 10 things like intelligent people do or something. And I watched it because I thought, I want to see if I do any of these things. Now I’m not gonna brag and tell you how many of the things I ended up doing, but the one thing that surprised me was talking to yourself.

 

One of the things apparently intelligent people do is they talk to themselves. And I’m thinking that blew my mind when that one popped up on the screen because I thought:

 

“I’ve been doing that since I was a kid, a lot!”

 

I’ve been waiting for no one to be in the house so I can pace the hallway and discuss things with myself. And I’m wondering, do you do that, Mark?

 

Mark Collett: Oh, God, [chuckling] I’m laughing because I do. I do! And the worst thing is, the worst thing is the Mrs will like, come into the house and I won’t hear her coming in, and I’ll be in sort of like conversation. She’s like:

 

“Who are you talking to earlier?”

 

And I was just like:

 

“Just myself. I was running through a few ideas and doing a back and forth and my sort of inner monologue was coming out.”

 

And I do this when I’m running as well. I used to go on long runs on a Sunday morning and I’d have a conversation about ideas. And if I’m planning out a speech or something like that, I will do it and run through it under my breath.

 

And sometimes I walk past people in the street and they’ll be looking at me like:

 

“He’s talking to himself!”

 

But you speak to some people and you’ll be like:

 

“That’s just my inner monologue.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“What’s one of them?”

 

And you’ll be like:

 

“What do you mean? So you don’t have conversations with yourself about ideas and plans, and you don’t have a back and forth?”

 

And they’re like:

 

“No.”

 

Blair Cottrell: We’ll get to the point where they’re planting microphones in your house, and you’ll be committing hate speech to yourself! Yeah, and you’ll be a charge for hate speech to yourself, Mark. You’ve got to be careful!

 

Mark Collett: But [chuckling] I do it all the time and it sometimes frustrates and freaks people out.

 

And sometimes, as I say, the Mrs will come up and says:

 

“Who are you talking to? Your phone wasn’t even, …”

 

“Yeah, well, that’s just me. Just me.”

 

And it really annoys you if I say:

 

“It’s the best conversation I get in this house, which is like, that’s the best!”

 

If you want to start a real argument is when your misses catches you having the inner monologue, remind her that it’s more intelligent conversation than you get out of her. And then you will get that is the fast track to being punched by your partner.

 

All Good, How’s It Going gave two dollars. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Hail Mark! Hail, Blair! If you could both meet up IRL in each other’s countries, where is the first place you would go to Showcase your homeland? I’m glad you’re still alive and well, Blair.”

 

Well, I didn’t actually get to do as much with Blair as I do with, usually when people come over. And it’s because Blair arrived, I met him then. He had to go and do things with his partner and they went on little exploratory journeys themselves. But if I could have taken Blair anywhere, it would have been to a place called Bradgate Park in Leicestershire which has got historic ruins, wild running deer, and some of the oldest trees in the whole country. Like these trees, some of them are 7, 800 years old.

 

So the things they’ve seen in their lifetime is just incredible! You know, they really are these incredible sort of they’re not obviously alive in the sense of like a creature, but living entities that have seen changes over their lifetime that we couldn’t, we couldn’t imagine.

 

And I think that connection with nature to me is important. It’s a place I went as a child, and sharing that with somebody like Blair would have been awesome! But unfortunately, we didn’t get as much time together as I hoped.

 

Blair Cottrell: When I was a kid, I used to wish that I could touch an old tree and absorb its knowledge. I used to imagine that that was happening if I touched an old tree. But I’m kind of torn. I want to take Mark. I would take Mark to the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne and explain, like, exactly the significance of all the different features, because it’s very significant, not just to Australians, but to, I think, all extended members of our race. And I’ve learnt that only recently, actually in the past few years.

 

But then I also want to take Mark to the athletics track, the track and field institution setup that I used to compete on when I was younger. And I want to see if I can beat him in a 200 metre or 100 metre foot race. That’s what I’d really want to do!

 

Mark Collett: I’m an old man now. I’m 45. And one thing I’ve noticed, as I get older, I don’t seem to get that much weaker. So I can still go to the gym and do decent lifts and build myself up. But that burst energy where you can, not long distance. You can still do you get a lot of long distance instance runners who were old men. But that burst energy you have when you’re young, it’s just gone. So you might beat me there. Spartan Sadaka gave $2. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“My view is this planet needs a moral, wise, compassionate White emperor that has legally restrained authority over every single military and space travel, peace by centralisation and strict laws of war.”

 

Well, thank you so much! Ironically, I made a joke earlier, privately to Blair that he would make an excellent sort of Conan the King style character that could rule by a compassionate force. I actually said that to you earlier, didn’t I? There’s something I actually said to you. So would you take the role of Conan the King?

 

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Mark Collett
6 hours ago
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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@ancientviking
all these outward nazis are rumoured to be feds

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withey
3 hours ago
great show, goodnight all 14/88 28

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
evening dupes

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
ye tnx

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Sir Trancealot
3 hours ago
14

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@Joesmith
3 hours ago
14

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@MarkCollett
you have so many guests, but imagine unz laughing at your back for making you believe his scam he is some kind of right winger

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
so mark can praise iran more? lets not

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago
ye Blair is a beast

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
might as well be a jew himself

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
according to duke nothing was good before christianity/judiasm

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@BlairCottrell
can you snatch? clean&jerk?

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
and duke is a zionist

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago
Unz is basically a Liberal Jew, he simply seems not able to grasp the very concept of racial identity.
He just publishes a lot of right wing content, for the sake of the traffic it engenders, not because he is our friend.

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago
and others in heavily mixed California. this was in the link

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@MarkCollett
https://www.unz.com/runz/an-open-letter-to-the-alt-right-and-others/
why do you invite unz to your show? he believes that the ideal of a White ethnostate as the most desirable political outcome is debunked by the reality of low crime and unproblematic coexistence of Whites, Hispanics

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
so whats the benefit in UK when everyone is prediposed to hating it?

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
we don’t have the same law and you will get locked up .. and noboy supports it here

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
you deserve to go to jail if don’t realise the ramifications of using hiterl outside of USA

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Prison Ships
3 hours ago
I hope DUKE beats the cancer and out lives trump.

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
stop being revelators of hitler in commonwealth countries

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@BlairCottrell
of course it is illegal, look at the warfare tom sewell you and others are subjected to

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@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
what about if there is a redpilled scientist egghead, would he trigger inferiority complexes and how do you escape from that if you accept human inequality?

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ancientviking
3 hours ago

@withey
Not on the top 10

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 hours ago

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
IDK that’s of course your original question for Blair, not something I have a problem accepting having worked with such academics on projects together.

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Sir Trancealot
3 hours ago
Dinobane is based

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ancientviking
3 hours ago
its stupid as shiiit

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Alice1488
32 minutes ago
Blair is a real White man, a national treasure for Australia. It’s rare to see a Nationalist that doesn’t get involved with drama!

Barnes isn’t Noble
32 minutes ago
I believe entropy has had payment processing issues if I remember correctly Henrick mentioned having not received donation funds from one of his payment processors.

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago
i don’t think they monitor this chat

@Ihtultu
3 hours ago
Good evening everyone.

Obscure Truth
3 hours ago
True.

@Ihtultu
3 hours ago
take it alongside beta alanine.

withey
3 hours ago

@ancientviking
but it is a problem

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago
2.2 *grams per kg

ancientviking
3 hours ago
like thats the biggest problem

ancientviking
3 hours ago
wahhh people smoke weed …

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
3 hours ago

@Mar

@BlairCottrell
how do i get to 2.2 proteins per kg of weight though, with eggs only?

ancientviking
3 hours ago
its a good level to be at

ancientviking
3 hours ago
carolina reaper or scorpion pepper

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
3 hours ago

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
I’ve spent a lot of time around some incredibly intelligent academics, I like to call the lampshades because they make the bright appear dimmer, but they too tow the line and rather tell a lie rather than be aberrant and tell the truth on certain matters

withey
3 hours ago

@Philip.Kollberg
i drink raw eggs it’s lovely either 1 at a time or 3 in a glass and drink drink drink

@Ihtultu
3 hours ago
They’re trying to make the goys gay!!!

ancientviking
3 hours ago
Yet ……

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
4 hours ago
Richard Spencer liked hamburgers with caramelised onion or something like that

@Philip.Kollberg
4 hours ago
drink egg is awful

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
4 hours ago
i mean, do you justify priviledge by way human inequality?

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
4 hours ago

@BlairCottrell
..and how do you think you stack against a scientist or someone like that, do you accept your intellectual inferiority as downstream from human inequality, or … do you cope by claiming you are cleverer because you are red-pilled, they are just privileged pencilnecked eggheads, etc

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Cannot recommend that enough

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
If you don’t know how to cook start with stews

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago
I found 20% fat better for smash burgers with onions.

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago
5%??

ancientviking
4 hours ago
suger filled buns

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
It’s the European stable food

ancientviking
4 hours ago
terible

ancientviking
4 hours ago
brioch?

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Lobscouse

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Scouse

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Stew

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago

@withey
LOL same

withey
4 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
i’m an ectomorph i could never get to blair probably not even with steroids

ancientviking
4 hours ago
does blair here raise chickens? i doubt it

ancientviking
4 hours ago
this seems like a better time than early sleep

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
and i remind you that you cannot use slurs on this channel

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago

@withey
Self rebutal – you most certainly will not get as jacked as Blair doing that, but it is better for most people psychologically and it is productive.

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
im simply bored

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
your attacks have amounted to nothing

ancientviking
4 hours ago
so nice goin for white movements

ancientviking
4 hours ago
no he is a paki

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
i’ve met tollah as well, he is swarthy nothing more

ancientviking
4 hours ago
and iin their pics

ancientviking
4 hours ago
and paki

ancientviking
4 hours ago
midget as well

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
Ayotolah i think he is called

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
who?

ancientviking
4 hours ago
dunno

ancientviking
4 hours ago
why he was in the pic i dunnop

0KT0BER
4 hours ago
*dwarven

ancientviking
4 hours ago
or that paki guy

0KT0BER
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
no dissing our warven kings

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
yes woodlander is short

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago

@withey
Focusing on your appearance like that is narcissistic. laying a driveway of 1000 1footx1footx2″ thick paving stones its a workout and you can look at what you’ve done at the end of the day

ancientviking
4 hours ago
like that woodlander guy? he is 5’0 a litteral dwarf

withey
4 hours ago
i’m parallel with steve laws shoulders

0KT0BER
4 hours ago
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/HJS-Israel-2048-%E2%80%93-A-Blueprint-Report-web-4.pdf

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
those fellas are 6’4

ancientviking
4 hours ago
doubt

withey
4 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
have a home gym

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
I dount after some of the people he is pictured with

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
It’s far more rewarding than the gym which just has you paying to move things around back to the start

withey
4 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
looking good and feeling great is the achievement

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Anything

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
that bike crash was a blessing in discuise

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Dig a ditch or something

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
i had a motobike accdent broke sevral bones and when i got better i got to the fitst ive ever been i was a fat bloob b4 that

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
you’re about the same height as Mark, and only a little taller than me

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Build something! The most rewarding exercise is when you can look back at the end of the day and see you’ve achieved something more than lifted a lump of iron only to put it back where you found it.

ancientviking
4 hours ago
5’10

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
he is a jew so id imagine so

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
how tall are you?

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
do you have issue with mike enoch?

ancientviking
4 hours ago
midgets

Obscure Truth
4 hours ago
Lol

ancientviking
4 hours ago
where mark is like 5’5 lol

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
As you get older you do find it harder to have that burst of strength to bench press a gearbox up onto an engine while lying under a car

withey
4 hours ago
we whites cannot live like indians, we are too geared to being in charge of our own destiny, we are all leaders, any difference is cause for conflict, we only cooperate when we agree

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
lake distric

ancientviking
4 hours ago
what a guy ….

ancientviking
4 hours ago
the supposed nuerologist that preyed on retarded women?

ancientviking
4 hours ago
wow

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
you really think that creep is innocent?

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
its like 10% dont

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Wait you guys don’t do that in your internal monologue? You actually say it?

@Ir0nW1LL
4 hours ago
You meet a better class of person that way

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
call the police who dealt with this lie and have them tell you

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
My uncle had a stroke and could no longer do that in silence.

Prison Ships
4 hours ago
AntiChrists; Unregenerate Queers; and c”rap” listeners deserve an insurmountable Alien invasion.

@Joesmith
4 hours ago

@withey
i got a council flat its nice being close to famaly i share a dog with him the dog wanted to go to his yestday so she draged me there lol

ancientviking
4 hours ago
he was not wearing a hazmat suit for no reason

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
M8? that shit was done with years ago, ofc he killed her

withey
4 hours ago

@Joesmith
same here

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
that’s a lie and you know it, JF is a good man, a hero of our race

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
i am a 10 min walk from my dad

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
Unless you are JF Gariepy and kill off your own wife

Sir Trancealot
4 hours ago
which then lead to MGTOW

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
you see your dad every day, but it’s only brief, you need your mother for affection and your father for leadership this is wholesome nuclear family, everyone plays a part, all roles are crucial

ancientviking
4 hours ago
do some partime farm work

ancientviking
4 hours ago
stop being lazy

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
*sued

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
They got sewed for plagiarising the kookaburra song

@RP
4 hours ago
Where do you guys stand on sperm donation? Should young, fit and healthy nationalists consider donating to healthy, attractive and intelligent European women even if they’re lesbians? I’d argue having healthy white babies is a net positive for us.

ancientviking
4 hours ago
what a shit show

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
vegemite sandwiches are disgusting. Marmite is better

ancientviking
4 hours ago
and gods help you if you go back on ethan ralphs again mark

Prison Ships
4 hours ago
If EuroPagan “gods” were believable they would have remained at minimum 30% more popular than they did.

@TheOldOneTwo
4 hours ago
A god is only as believable as the mystic who peddles him.

ancientviking
4 hours ago
what kind of message would that be?

ancientviking
4 hours ago
Only on weekends? so men should be more like blacks? .. just went out for a pack of smokes?

withey
4 hours ago
true dads worked mums gave affection

withey
4 hours ago
my cheeks are hurting that’s so funny

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
no

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
i have

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
lol

ancientviking
4 hours ago
not been years of that already

ancientviking
4 hours ago
sure to save the white people is film reviews

Prison Ships
4 hours ago

@james
Adams MCkenzie Peer pressure.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
I’d rather achieve something than spend it in the gym. Breaking up concrete and wheelbarrowing it into a big pile around the other side of the section is a good start

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
that’s insane to say. look at ancient rome, greeks, makedonians, celts, thracians, germans. even today everyone wants to be a successor of rome.

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
true Adam will win, but only because religion is fantasy and in part subversive, facts and reality always wins

ancientviking
4 hours ago
Duke even said we did nothing before christianity … the gall on that fooker

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago
especially when doing legs.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Have you not seen the tik tok pastors promoting LGBT stuff?

ancientviking
4 hours ago
Adam will wipe the floor with old christian idiot

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
That won’t work, they go about subverting any organisation of authority, even the church.

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago
an ethnoreligion will reappear. it’s inevitable.

Obscure Truth
4 hours ago
Right.

@SvenLongshanks
4 hours ago
great conversation tonight

ancientviking
4 hours ago
they shill for ‘god’ at every oppertunity

ancientviking
4 hours ago
nobody seems to care anymore

@Ihtultu
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
we have to thank Theodosius I for that. along with inserting a foreign universalist religion, he allowed the mahommedans to flourish centuries later ater the battle of Frigidus.

0KT0BER
4 hours ago
lol

James Adams MCkenzie
4 hours ago

@VesselofGrace
how the hell is Darwn a satanist

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
You sleep better that’s for sure

ancientviking
4 hours ago
why i never trusted him

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@Ihtultu
The jewish religion holds alot of sway in him

Prison Ships
4 hours ago
Darwin; Freud; Marx; Nietzsche are the most Amplified Satanists.

James Adams MCkenzie
4 hours ago
Before Christianity we had control over our spirituality that had deep ancestral roots, after it started getting controled by a foreign cult

Prison Ships
4 hours ago
Saint Martin Luther knew better.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Oh you don’t like trash everywhere and like things organised, you’re ADHD and autistic (AKA just simply a white man)

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
it would have to be cash in hand work, because every employer pays into a bank account

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
4 hours ago
Being white is a mental illness under the jewish defined DSM

ancientviking
4 hours ago

@withey
Get a job an do this in free time, relying on money from poor whites with no hope but paying internet personalites is not exactly a plus

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
no parent would be proud of a aspd son lol

@Joesmith
4 hours ago
when i was a kid duslex and adhd was techanly specal needs but not relly specal needs

withey
4 hours ago

@ancientviking
how can mark carry on without money to pay for his family and pay to run this organisation?

@Diogenes
4 hours ago
“Oh that’s all nonsense, it’s a racket for the …”

@Joesmith
5 hours ago

@withey
lol after u should check out a short aspd explaned by duck its so me lol

Callaghan
5 hours ago
FREE JOEL DAVIS

James Adams MCkenzie
5 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
5 hours ago
It’s the jewish driven dysgenic goycattle breeding program at play there Blair

withey
5 hours ago

@Joesmith
it sounds cool

ancientviking
5 hours ago

@withey
Easily doable without subscriptions

Reginald Collett
5 hours ago
the new supergirl actress is autralian

@Joesmith
5 hours ago
aspd means socalpath

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
others aren’t in it and don’t either understand it or don’t believe it, but it’s real, my soul is free, free from woke

@Joesmith
5 hours ago
i like my anti socal personalty disorder lable

@Philip.Kollberg
5 hours ago
Does the shack include Mark Collett stream?

ancientviking
5 hours ago

@withey
About yourselves, nobody else.

@Diogenes
5 hours ago
everyone is retarded and everyone hates each other – sounds like the baseline for today’s world

@Joesmith
5 hours ago
lol thats me i get big benfits for bpd and anti socal personalty disorder

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
i’ve seen it first hand, i’ve talked to other members, we’re all positive and enthusiastic

ancientviking
5 hours ago
its been years

ancientviking
5 hours ago
Keep telling yourself that

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
PA is getting better it’s always got better

ancientviking
5 hours ago
then why does it still get worse?

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
camping together, hiking together, is collectivism, we think the same we feel the same and we can cooperate, it’s all proven, and from that we build

ancientviking
5 hours ago

@withey
Pitching tents will instill fear in all foreigners?

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
but if you’re happy to just stay online, well god for you

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
showing what can be achieved is priceless

ancientviking
5 hours ago

@withey
Im sure going for a hike and then ponying up some hundreds of pounds for a quick camp session will cure our ills colour me with optimism

withey
5 hours ago
it wouldn’t be long after we are denied fuel that the state runs out, no running ambulances, fire engines nor police cars

withey
5 hours ago
america will probably drop an A bomb on every city in iran

@Diogenes
5 hours ago
dropped two of them please

withey
5 hours ago
a nuke is the only way for america to win

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
the demo only gives a glimpse about PA this gives more of the picture, the website is words and pictures, all of this is necessary for people before they attend the camp or the conference, before they become emersed in what Mark is creating

ancientviking
5 hours ago
but like i said

ancientviking
5 hours ago
if i believed in them i would

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
do you attend PA demo’s?

ancientviking
5 hours ago
none of this online shit does anything i think that is quite obvious now

ancientviking
5 hours ago
years of this and nothing changed

withey
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
what’s your problem?

ancientviking
5 hours ago
if the downvote button was available? id hit that, but its not available, like a youtube channel

withey
5 hours ago
click

ancientviking
5 hours ago
its shit

ancientviking
5 hours ago
why

withey
5 hours ago
come on people 132 watching but only 22 likes….like the stream

withey
5 hours ago
fyi i liked the stream earlier

withey
5 hours ago
good evening all 14/88 28 wpwp wpww

ancientviking
5 hours ago
not like they are arabs or anything

ancientviking
5 hours ago
praising iran is the way to go am i right?

@noreplacement
5 hours ago
that happened here in England. Diesel was cheap, until it got popular

Prison Ships
5 hours ago
Militant BabyKillers and Sodomites are the NeoBolshevik vanguard.

Sir Trancealot
5 hours ago
evening all

ancientviking
5 hours ago
that was all nonsense

@noreplacement
5 hours ago
It was bad in Thatchers time Mark. Mortgages at 15% rising inflation. Yet few voted for the NF

ancientviking
5 hours ago
nobody froze in covid either

@SvenLongshanks
5 hours ago
1.48 here

@noreplacement
5 hours ago
Mark is right here. Always a % of boomers were nationalists. Same % in younger folk, not enough, yet.

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
lets opt for the road less traveled

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
path of least resistance?

Aryan Futurist Joker
5 hours ago
o/

ancientviking
5 hours ago
not playing into jews hands might be a good start

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
fight fire with fire is my mantra

@Mcb
5 hours ago

@ancientviking
Ideas man

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
support of the general public will grow as diversity expands

@noreplacement
5 hours ago
Hate to burst any bubbles, but I don’t see much evidence of non-boomers stepping up in any greater numbers than within the boomer cohort

ancientviking
5 hours ago
venerate hitler in countries that despise him should work wonders

ancientviking
5 hours ago
So more swastikas and getting arrested helps?

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
white kids were the bullies …my school in Central Wisconsin had very little diversity then

@LottaSense
5 hours ago
whadda you mean “White children”? You mean other kids, right?

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
but their treatment motivated me to hit the gym and i got super jacked so jokes on them

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
white children bullied me for being so godamn white

@LottaSense
5 hours ago
all my favorite friends that were boys when I was little were gingers lol

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
i never formed friendships as a child i was a ginger

@LottaSense
5 hours ago
american public schools do the same thing to White children. constantly mix them up when they go to the next grade so they cant stay with their friends.

Vettekid1488
5 hours ago
that’s Diabolical

@SvenLongshanks
5 hours ago
they move prisoners around a lot as well, and you dont know what prison you will end up at when they bundle you into the van

@Mcb
6 hours ago
thanks Robert sorry I muted you

@SvenLongshanks
6 hours ago
Hi Chief

Chief Moody
6 hours ago
Evening troops

@robert1184
6 hours ago
Southport is lovely

@mcb

Vettekid1488
6 hours ago
traitors of the highest order is What they are

Vettekid1488
6 hours ago
2nd class status in your own homelands… despicable

Prison Ships
6 hours ago
No surprises. Our NeoBolshevik Oppressors murder us whenever they can get away with it.

@LottaSense
6 hours ago
“law” is subjective now. Not objective.

@Joesmith
6 hours ago
odysee keeps freezing

@Mcb
6 hours ago
I’ve got a bad feeling he won’t get bail

ancientviking
6 hours ago
i spose another heil hitler will do it, no trouble ever comes of it in commonwealth countries im sure

@vengeance
6 hours ago
o/

Vettekid1488
6 hours ago
hail mr. cotrell

DerCherusker
6 hours ago
Hail!

@Mcb
6 hours ago

@Daniel

Prison Ships
6 hours ago
OnlyQueers take requests on when or if to smile.

@Ihtultu
6 hours ago
Good evening everyone.

@Daniel
6 hours ago
You can’t win in seaside towns no matter what the actual demographics of the town are

@Mcb
6 hours ago
ok cheers

@Daniel
6 hours ago
Last time I was in Southport the actual residents were very white but full of Indians visiting

@SvenLongshanks
6 hours ago
hi serena

@Mcb
6 hours ago
BC

@SerenaJB
6 hours ago
Good evening.

@Mcb
6 hours ago
many nigs??

@Mcb
6 hours ago
Is Southport ok or a fcking hole??

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
23 hours ago
but he’d better off frowning when pictures are taken of him

@Obit_Anus_Onus_Abit
23 hours ago
Why the new thumbnail for Blair – he looks like he is affected by mental retardation. The old thumbnail with him frowning was much better, he looked somewhat heroic. He doesn’t look good smiling in photo, he doesn’t have the right features for that. Although he often grins when talking and that’s ok

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Thomas Sewell: Alrighty, we’re live. Max volume, everything. Audio input, capture.

 

All right, testing, 1, 2, 3. Use my big boy voice. Volume’s low. What’s your problem? I actually found a setting. Everyone’s like, Tom, fix your settings. We’re going 150%. There we go. Alrighty. Alrighty. Testing, testing!

 

All right, obligatory, free Joel Davis! Free Brandon [Koschel]! Free Jim Roberts!

 

So I’m going to cover a few subjects today, as you expect, with a solo stream. I really enjoyed my most recent stream with James Mason. It was like a five hour don’t Fed post challenge hard. He Fed posted a couple times, but as you’d expect. But I reviewed it and it wouldn’t breach. It wouldn’t breach even the most ridiculous laws we have here in Australia.

 

Now, one thing that I need to correct from the stream is I think I said that the book Siege is in a grey area of the law. My lawyer has told me that it is potentially banned. So he was like, it’s kind of in a dark grey area of the law. It’s not 100% banned. There is a banned list of books in Australia and Siege isn’t on it. But I cannot encourage anyone to go and buy that book because they haven’t made the case yet.

 

But what he suggests is that they’re trying to make the case. So I’d be very careful with that book in Australia. That’s one thing I want to clarify. Yeah, I think Mason gave a pretty sound explanation of what his intention of the book is. And I’m surprised that there hasn’t been any negative press because I know the journalists will watch a stream like that and get their AI ready to write an article for them about how evil we all are. But, yeah, that hasn’t happened.

 

But I do want to give people caution here in Australia that, yeah, I’m not encouraging you on legal grounds. I’m not encouraging you to read the book.

 

And I think all I said in the stream was that I did read it back in 2019 after being bullied by Jacob Hersant into reading it. I originally didn’t read it because I thought it was what everyone says it is. And I was like:

 

“I’m not really interested in that. I know enough about X, Y and Z through reading army manuals when I was in the army, so I don’t feel the need to read something of that nature.”

 

And then Jacob was like:

 

“No, it’s. That’s not what it’s about at all! There’s like some contentious lines in it. But overall, that’s not what it says.”

 

And Mason clarified that on stream. And I do appreciate him doing that because I think siege culture and accelerationist culture is really misunderstood. You know, accelerationism as a concept is, and siege as a concept is really misunderstood. And you’ll notice when I said to Mason about how our strategy has been to do the maximal amount of work with the minimal amount of damage, you’ll notice he was nodding the most. Mason’s not advocating for anyone to be an idiot and go to jail. He’s actually advocating the opposite. He’s saying:

 

“Do as much as you can to the integrity of the system without ruining your life!”

 

And he is proof that he’s done 60 years in the struggle. 60 years of inspiring people to be like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this system is evil and corrupt and contributing to it and trying to seek entry into it in hopes to change it is not an effective strategy.”

 

And he’s always been an advocate of the opposite. To siege it, to besiege it, to starve it. And yeah there’s no point, you know, running at it, doing a hero run, you know, charging at the castle walls, you’re just going to get pinged by some dude with an arrow. You’ve got to just wait it out, you’ve got to siege it, not wait it out and do nothing. But there’s a lot of things you can do while besieging an enemy.

 

And so people have to think creatively about what that means. And not but again, all politics, all politics, when it is in its infancy, attracts radical people. And radical people are more prone to self destructive behaviour. And so you want to have people that are courageous, you want to have courageous men, you want to have courageous leaders. And courageous does not mean foolish!

 

And so you do have to balance the concepts of bravery and courage with patience. And there’s a lot of virtue, a lot of virtue in having the strength to put yourself against a system that’s destroying you without becoming a martyr, you know, without letting the system destroy you. Now if you step over that line and the system puts you in jail for life or you get assassinated, like George Lincoln Rockwell.

 

I mean, Matt Hale, for example, who was involved, my understanding, with the creativity movement, he wasn’t the founder, but he was like the young hotshot that was rising up. And I think he’s in jail for life. I think he gets out of jail in about 10 years time from now. And he’s been in jail for like 20 years. Guys like Matt Howell, for example, just got really unlucky. They got. He got really unlucky and he got caught up in something that he hadn’t. I’ve looked at the case, I’ve looked at the case, the facts of the case, and the guy hasn’t done anything wrong. They could just. He was just a serious threat to the system and something like that could happen to me. But God willing, I’m safe from that level of corruption!

 

[07:42]

 

And I think it might be good luck, it might just be good luck! It might be destiny. But you don’t, what is it? You don’t count your chickens until they come home to roost or something? It’s still early days. It’s very early days. I’m still a young man. I might be bald, but I’m young and fit.

 

So, yeah, it’s, I’m 33 years old this year as of this month. And yeah, there’s a lot of struggle to go.

 

Just open with that if you haven’t checked it out, don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s five hours. It is broken down into separate conversations. There’s an hour and then there’s a break and then there was meant to be an another hour and a break. But it, the first hour, the first two hours is very consumable for most people.

 

And then obviously, if you’re really into this stuff and you go for long drives and, or you work a job where you can have a, your headphones in a lot of tradies and stuff. Tell me that they like the five hour streams. Don’t be intimidated by having these really long streams. They appreciate, they appreciate the dialogue.

 

So as long as not too often. I don’t think you should listen to streams every day and I don’t think you should listen to music every day. I have been doing a fair bit of community service. I got to do knitting, as you’re all aware, and I advise people not to, I listen to music sometimes the whole time, or a podcast or an audio book. Books are probably the best thing. Books are better than streams because books, streams and dialogue and conversations aren’t as sharp. There’s no way I can communicate with you as clearly and as sharply as, say, reading Mein Kampf on audiobook. It’s not possible because of all the jargon. Those are the clearest thoughts possible. And then they go through an editing process.

 

So where are we? So already in the chat. Already in the chat! They’re arguing about Christianity already. Instantly! It’s incredible! Christianity will come up in this stream. When we talk about Manosphere, we’re going to cover feminism in general. We’re going to talk about all this girl bossing that’s going on at the moment with the Evangelicals. And there’s some heinous stuff that I’ve seen on Twitter where these little soy boy freaks are marrying these goblina jewesses with like 100 body counts. And they’re just saying:

 

“But she’s saved by Christ!”

 

And so it will come up. The conversation will come up. When we’re talking about that. There is definitely part one of this stream. What I’m going to open with is I’ll just. People still saying the volume’s low. Let me just unmute myself. Hold on. Now we’re. I could put up 175. I’ll just go 200. I’ll go 200. Okay. People still complaining. 200%. 200% Audio input, capture, volume. And the mic is like an inch from my face, maybe two. Two inches. Audio input, capture. I’ll put this one at 150. Alrighty. How does that sound? Testing for the last time. Testing. Yeah, fair enough. It is pretty quiet. Yeah, there’s a lot of retards in the chat today. Classic. Everyone’s spurging out. Yeah, that does sound better.

 

All right, sweet. Everyone’s arguing over which strain of Christianity. It’s incredible! It’s incredible! It’s endless. It’s endless, isn’t it? It never ends. It never ends.

 

So to start with the Aboriginal question. So obviously we are still what I am, and I have friends and we are trying to get a political party on the table here in Australia. And so covering the Aboriginal question, and you could call it the woman question, is really important. And it has to be done in a way that’s legal because of these laws here in Australia. And it has to be done in a way that people can understand the values and the rhetoric without getting caught up in the emotional arguments. So one has to be cautious when they approach these two topics. So you might find my speech slightly more refined than normal.

 

Hitler won the female vote in Germany. He actually had more women vote for him than men. And that’s a really interesting phenomenon to consider that more women voted for Hitler than men.

 

And so it shows that women don’t have to necessarily like you in order to respect you and I think that’s an important dynamic. A lot of people have commented, including Mason, about how journalists have behaved, female journalists specifically have behaved when interviewing me. And I saw someone online describe it as “negative tingles”, that they’re not used to someone outside the court giving them negative tingles. Normally it’s boring. Normally their job is boring. And then to have someone that’s got an intense character and an intense personality, it hits the dopamine receptors differently. And I’ve seen grandmas on Facebook comment sections in replies to these interviews saying, “hail Australia”. And all the criticism and all the advice people try to give us over the years is all wrong. It’s all backwards. It’s actually all the other way around. The female question is the opposite of the current orthodoxy, the current belief system of how women should be treated and how politics affects women. It’s all wrong. It’s all an inversion of the truth!

 

The truth is that it comes down to respect! And they respect integrity, not niceties! They don’t respect niceties, they respect integrity. And they respect aggression as long as it’s a as long as it’s not a foolish, foaming at the mouth, barbaric aggression. They don’t have much respect for that, but they almost respect that more and get better tingles from that than Peter Dutton and Anthony Albanese. These characters provide no stimulation to the female political psyche. And so understanding how to win the woman vote, you’re not going to win it with outright misogyny. That’s obviously ridiculous! This idea of just be a prick and you’ll get voted in. That’s not what I’m articulating.

 

[16:04]

 

What I’m saying is that people should not continue to spread the lie and demoralisation within our broader scene, our broader movement and political parties in the West, that the way to win the woman vote is to pander to them. That’s really what this comes down to, is the pandering.

 

So that’s a subject on its own that I’ll cover. So that’s what you got to look forward to.

 

But first we’re going to talk about the Aboriginal question and specific. We’ve talked about both these questions a lot, but the reason why it’s come up again is I’ve had a lot of people in person and online message me saying:

 

“Why is our strategy to go to war with Aboriginals? Won’t we win more votes and won’t we do better in Parliament and won’t our message be more well received if we don’t go to war?”

 

These are their words, not mine, with Aboriginals. And my position is not that we’re going to war with Aboriginals.

 

And obviously the Camp Sovereignty situation has played a part in this dialogue because people think that the reason why there’s allegedly an incident on that hill was because of the Aboriginal question. And it’s completely it’s not irrelevant. It’s not irrelevant, but people are conflating and the media has done this. The media has purposefully misled people and made a significant portion of people that support us question their support on the basis of:

 

“Well, why would they attack innocent elderly Aboriginal women?”

 

And most people can see through it. But there is a portion of our supporters that are like:

 

“Oh, I don’t think that was a good move. You probably shouldn’t have attacked innocent elderly Aboriginal women.”

 

And it’s, well, one, that didn’t happen and two, the conflict., … And this is the position that interestingly, a lot of Aboriginals actually share, not all, but a lot, is that the issue is these White traitors.

 

And so if these White traitors didn’t behave the way they did, there wouldn’t be as much conflict between the Whites and the Aboriginals. And you’ll find there’s a lot of, probably a higher percentage of Aboriginal DNA Aboriginals that aren’t supportive of multiculturalism. And there is, the Left call it like an Uncle Tom syndrome, obviously. But my position has always been towards all races that it’s about respect. And it’s a zero sum game a lot of the time regarding resources and living space. That’s zero sum.

 

And so there’s going to have to be compromise or there’s going to be if there’s not some sort of what I’ve always said about the question of re-migration is people bring up the Aboriginals, whenever you talk about re-migration they say:

 

“Oh, but what about the Aboriginals? They were here before you!”

 

So because of that, they’re in their own select category. And what I’ve been trying to explain to people online is that Aboriginals have a choice. And this is the sound bite and this is what you should be saying to if I know a lot of people have an Aboriginal friend, or a part Aboriginal friend, this is what you say to them:

 

“Our position is that you either have part sovereignty over the whole or over full sovereignty over the part. But you can’t have both.”

 

I’ll explain that again. The Aboriginal people can either have part sovereignty over all, or full sovereignty over part. They can’t have both! That’s not a compromise. That’s White genocide. So White people, Anglo, Celtic people predominantly have come to this continent because the continent wasn’t a country, or a nation, it was a continent. It’s a land mass. It’s an island, a big island.

 

But we’ve come to this place. There’s a whole bunch of warring Aboriginal tribes. Some are in cahoots and some aren’t in cahoots. Some have been here 10,000 years. Some have potentially been here 40,000 years. The numbers keep changing. But either way, we came here and we built something separate to them. We tried to include them. There’s a lot of interesting history from the first and Second Fleet and from Arthur and Bligh, Philip. There’s some interesting history where they’ve tried to integrate the Aboriginals and it’s almost always backfired horribly on both the Whites and on the Aboriginals.

 

And so when you look at and Auspill’s done a very good job at covering this, when there has been massacres of Aboriginals, so-called these genocides or massacres, it’s always come down to establishing the Anglo Saxon law on the land. It’s come down to:

 

“Hey, we want this land, we want this territory. We’re bigger and stronger than you. We’re not going to come after you, we’re not going to attack you. But we want this much space. And, it’s living space for Whites. Europe has to breathe out. We’re overcrowded in the streets of London. We’ve got this problem with criminals or petty criminality, people stealing Spoons and stuff. We’re running out of space. We found this place. We’re in a geopolitical issue with all these other people. We can’t explain this to you. We just need what we, what we need. And we’re prepared to fight for it! And your options are to fight us or to just keep moving deeper and deeper into the bush and away from this spot. It’s ours now. You’re not having it back.”

 

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And obviously anyone in their right mind would be pissed off by that. If some alien force came, you know, from space and did that to us right now and we had really little ability to fight back because they were so technologically advanced, we would rightfully be pissed off, wouldn’t we? But we would have to retreat into the bush, we would have to White flight. We would have to be like, this is too much. We have to consolidate what we’re doing.

 

And so this is beyond Good and Evil. This is a, this is Nietzschean in this concept. The Left try to put a moral framework on that and say:

 

“That’s wrong, that’s evil. And therefore we have to surrender Australia to everyone! We have to be cucks, we have to bend over and we have to let anyone come here and rape us because of this founding moment!”

 

Because White people equals bad as their moral framework. That is their entire moral framework. White people equals bad. And they’ve got this original sin concept:

 

“We’re bad people! We’re horrible people! We’re horrible, bad people!”

 

Now, obviously straight White men don’t think this way. The only people that think this way are people with slave morality, which is homosexuals, freaks, a lot of women unfortunately think this way:

 

“Oh, no, we’re horrible! What we’ve done is so horrible!”

 

You know, this kind of bleeding heart. Not all women, but it is a naturally, it is a feminine energy to put your empathy for others. Well, it’s not even a, it’s a distortion of feminine energy really.

 

But look, it appeals, it appeals to weak willed people. Masculine men don’t think like this. Testosterone doesn’t allow your brain to even go there. We’ve got a completely different philosophical structure, a completely different reality because we’ve got a solar morality. It really comes down to these simple principles. It’s not about good and evil, it’s about solar morality. It’s about, we are a life form, we must exist, we must continue to exist. We don’t have to be pricks about it, we don’t have to be cunts about it. But we’re not going to back down, we’re not going to surrender, we’re not going to roll over and die. And so how do we make this work?

 

And so obviously, while we’re in a nice friendly talking phase about it, I don’t have an issue with Aboriginal sovereignty. It’s not my issue. I don’t. Good on them, Good for them. That’s my position on the Aboriginals. Good for them! If they can have it, good on them.

 

But it’s got nothing to do with me. I’m not paying for it, I’m not engaged in it, I’m not involved in it. It’s not in my face, it’s not in my place, it’s not in my space. It’s in their space. Now that is the problem! That is the problem is that multiculturalism is forcing all these radically different people to live together. And we’re not meant to live that is going to be the death of us. It’s going to be the death of our culture.

 

Now these people, they have a flag, they have a tribe, they have an identity. They’re trying to rebuild their culture. Good on them. My opinion, and I think the opinion of most Aboriginals and most White people is that they should do it on their own! I think they’ve had enough help. We’ve done enough to help them, more than enough to help them. It’s not our responsibility to help them any further.

 

What part of the land are they going to get? Well, that is the most serious conversation. But the philosophy behind that conversation I think is congruent. I think we can, I think all Australians can get on board with the idea that we have a two-state solution, at a minimum. To me, that’s the minimum. If they want to go to war with us, that’s a different conversation.

 

But I think you’ll find that there could be conversations where they have their own government, they have their own schools, they have their own institutions. Are they going to be as good as ours? No, they’re not. Is that going to cause the bleeding hearts to be like:

 

“See we’re still continuing to oppress them by keeping them separate!”

 

And there’ll be an anti-apartheid argument, but apartheid is the most beneficial thing for both parties. Because they will never have dignity, they will never have sovereignty and they will never have dignity while we play this passive aggressive game where they’re trying to rule over us and we’re trying to say we’re all friends, Kumbaya. That is never, while both of us are actually suffering. So I’ve said in the past things like if they want to, if they want to fight, they might get deported too. They’ll get deported back to India. They walked here 40,000 years ago. They might get told to walk back.

 

And I’ve said things like those are very strong comments and obviously a lot of Aboriginal people want to fight me because of those comments.

 

But that is my position. I’m not backing down on that. I’m never going to change my mind on that is my position. It’s a two-state solution or it’s that because we cannot continue. And when we take power in this country, and we are going to take power in this country, we are going to solve this question and we are going to say:

 

“Let’s sit down, let’s draw up the map and here is a fundamental treaty of you will not let China put bases on your land, you will not let any foreigners put bases on your land, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Like there will be a treaty that will say:

 

“You are a vassal of our realm. This is Australdom, this is our realm, you’re a vassal, you’ve got a territory, you self govern it.”

 

Whether we trade or buy or sell or communicate with each other, whether there’s tourist visas, all this is downstream. We can work something out where they can come visit us and we can go visit them.

 

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The bleeding hearts can go live with the Aboriginals. But you will not put Chinese bases on it. Like this is fortress Australia. We’re not going to tolerate it and you guys can police yourselves. You can have your own laws, you can have your own courts, you can have your own koori justice and your own jails and your own prisons, and all the complaints that they have all solved overnight. All solved overnight. We have nothing to do with it. We have nothing to do with it. We have no part of it! You want to go spear each other, that’s your culture. That we’re not going to intervene. And that is the absolute best outcome for everyone involved! That it’s the best compromise for us. Certainly it’s the best compromise. Is it perfect? Is it ideal? Can we purity spiral and get a better result? Sure, absolutely!

 

Is that feasible? Of course, anything is feasible if you put your mind to it. Is that how the Australian public feel? No, the Australian public don’t feel that there could be something more than that. There might be people that want to do more than that and go further, certainly. And that ethnic tension arises from living together. But I think once you find, once you take that step in that direction, I think you will find that tension will disappear.

 

So when people say to me:

 

“Tom you know why are we doing this? Anti Aboriginal rhetoric and da, da and we should try to win the Aboriginals over and we should., …”

 

The way they’re talking is they’re treating Aboriginals the same way. They’re like:

 

“We should try to win women over. We should try to win!”

 

It’s kind of similar to attitude. It’s like that’s not how it works. You don’t win Aboriginals over by pandering to them. You don’t win women over by pandering to them. I know they’re two very different biological forms. You know, obviously one is male and female. One is just female. You know, when we’re talking about women, we’re talking about White women, obviously. And I’m not making any further comparisons in that regard.

 

But if you understand, what I’m saying is the politics of the White man, the politics of the White Patriarchy, is not about pandering! Our politics is about laying down the law, explaining what we’re going to do and why we’re going to do it and how we’re going to do it. And then saying:

 

“This is the best outcome for everyone. What we’re doing right now is not working and we’re not making any further compromises on that’s the line in the sand.”

 

We’re actually only going to go further than that, we’re not going to come any less than that.

 

There is never, in my opinion, there’s never going to be a time where I or the vast majority of White people in Australia are going to accept are our slow ethnic replacement. It might appear that way right now, but it’s only because we’re not politically organised. This is not how the average Australian feels. This is not how the average White person around the world feels. The average White person around the world wants re-migration. They want to remain, at a minimum, 90%. That’s like the beginning. That’s not even, like controversial anymore, that the 90% or the 95% rule. That is the super majority of the population. I just like deport all of them except the good ones. That’s the super majority. And then you’ve probably still got the majority saying:

 

“No, no, it shouldn’t be 90, it should be 99%.”

 

So, yeah, anyway, I’ll pause there. I won’t cover that subject much more. Oh, my God! There’s a sorry, there’s a spastic in the chat. How do I do ban this person for life? I don’t want to mute. I keep making this mistake. If I mute, then I can’t ban. Isn’t that right? Okay, that just deleted it. Oh, yeah. Also muting on Rumble because Odysee is different. Muting on Rumble is banning. Cool. Glad we got that sorted.

 

I’ll go through the comments section. If there’s any comments on the Aboriginal question. Geez, everyone’s just arguing about Christianity. We’re not even talking about Christianity. We’re just talking about Aboriginals at this stage.

 

So, yeah, in short, as I said before, tell your friends that say this nonsense to you about how we should work together:

 

“We all got to work together. We all got to work together.”

 

They can have full sovereignty over themselves, but not us. Or they can have this fake sovereignty over everyone. Do they actually want full sovereignty? If they do, it can only be over themselves. That means apartheid. Ultimately, that means apartheid. What that looks like is a man can’t serve the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag. You can’t go to a at the high school, at the courts, all these institutions. It’s got an Australian flag and it’s got an Aboriginal flag. That is not sustainable. It’s one or the other. It can’t be both.

 

And this idea of:

 

“Oh, we got to show solidarity and they’re not a threat to us and all this.”

 

It’s not sustainable. It’s not sustainable. It’s nice. Tingle feels. It feels really nice:

 

“Oh, look, I’m being empathetic. Oh, I’m a good person.”

 

You can have this virtue signaling, but we’re two very different peoples. We need to have sovereignty over ourselves. They need to have sovereignty over themselves. We need to be focused on Australia and White people and civilisation, the Western civilisation that we’re a part of, and they need to be focused on creating their own harmony, the dream time, their version of reality, fixing their problems, punishing their problems. They have a completely different version of reality to us. That is just how different ethnic groups and different races are built. They have different versions of reality. Things we see as a problem that they see it like a major problem, they see as a minor problem, and vice versa. Their biggest issue is White people are locking them up and putting them in jail. Like, they can’t even comprehend that our problem is that they’re committing heinous crimes. They can’t even comprehend that’s a problem. They see the problem as:

 

“Why are you locking us up?”

 

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It’s the same with the blacks in America. How can these two groups of people live together when they have completely different versions of reality? So they should police themselves. Simple as! Part sovereignty over all or full sovereignty over part.

 

So you can’t have both. Simple. As I’ll move on. Hopefully the comment section is not talking about Christianity, someone says:

 

“Do I make my own toothpaste?”

 

Very funny. Yeah. And this applies not just to Australia, this applies to obviously, Canada and New Zealand as well. I think the Treaty of Waitangi is a mistake in New Zealand. I don’t know too much about the treaties in Canada. I know Alex Ferryman does. Yeah, it’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Any treaty that exists needs to be a treaty of:

 

“Here’s your space. Here’s our space. You live there, we live here. You’re citizens of your country. We’re citizens of our country. We’re two separate nations. We’re not the same nation.”

 

They even call themselves the first nation so that by definition, they’re not part of our nation. They’re saying this. They’re saying this, not me. They are saying it. What else?

 

Let’s get into the nuts and bolts. The woman question. I need a need a breather. If we’re going to get into the woman question. I need a breather. Yeah. Someone says:

 

“Easiest solution is allow those same bleeding hearts to transfer their own funds to Aboriginals, not government or social funds. The Left can put their money where their mouth is.”

 

Yeah, absolutely! Well, I believe that all the bleeding hearts should go live with the Aboriginals. They should have Aboriginal citizenship. They want to be so bad. They hate White people so much. They hate being White!:

 

“White people are horrible, horrible people! And having White children is perpetuating White supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

Good bye. Bye. See you later. Awesome! You know, we’ll strip all of these people of Australian citizenship when we come to power and there will be people that will say:

 

“Oh, my God, you can’t do that!”

 

Yes, we can and we will. They’re all going to get stripped of their Australian citizenship. These White people that work, that bow down and worship Aboriginals as their god. They can go live with their god. They can go live with their god. Simple. You know, you want to do the Welcome to Country acknowledgment of country, all this. Absolutely perfect! Perfect. Absolutely! Bye. Bye. Yeah, we don’t want those people living in our society. It doesn’t matter that they’re of the same blood as us. That doesn’t matter because they’re not of the same honour as us. They hate us! There are some sort of mutation of our bloodline that is antithetical to our existence. If Aboriginals didn’t exist, they would find some other group to nut hug. Hypothetically, because there’s no Aboriginals in England. Like you don’t see people advocating for the pre-Belgic-Celtic invasion of Bronze Age England. That doesn’t exist. You know, what kind of strain of Leftism would that be? You know, it’s obviously absurd because you’ve got a thousand years of homogeneity of many different layers of Celtic peoples then breeding in with many different layers of Germanic and Nordic peoples.

 

So it’s the English people, the British people are a relatively homogenised people. And so you don’t see that argument because those tribes can homogenise quite. I mean, obviously it still caused things like, I mean, I don’t want to get too much into the intricacies of English history, but you can see the precursor of things like civil war in previous ethnic distinctions.

 

So, for example, Croatia and Serbia are ethnically very similar, but they’re not ethnically the same. They are two different ethnicities and therefore they also have two different versions of their interpretation of Christianity. You’ve got Orthodoxy and you’ve got Catholicism. So ethnic differences play out also religiously and also politically. You’ll see this a lot through human history. You see it in the American Civil War. There was an ethnic difference in the American Civil War as well. Probably not as predominant, but I won’t go into it. Americans know that for themselves.

 

Now someone says:

 

“Tom’s right. They have a different reality. Go to any Northern Territory prison and you’ll see the system isn’t working.”

 

It’s not working by our standards. Absolutely! Our version, our reality of working and their version of working are two completely different things.

 

And I’ll finish it with this. I had a Dreamtime experience with Aboriginals. I’m sure I’ve told this story on stream years ago, so those that have been around a while will remember this story. But I had a friend in the army, a guy called Christopher Knight. He was a Special Forces guy. He’s a translator, he’s a linguist. And I don’t know what he’s doing now with his life, but I’m sure he’s doing well. And he was adopted. He got adopted in a cultural sense, or a linguistic sense by an Aboriginal. An Aboriginal tribe in Darwin in Northern Territory. And this guy was a, like one of those, what is called politician-linguist or something. This guy spoke like 50 languages. It was incredible! I’ve never seen anything like it. I mean, we would go out drinking in Mitchell street or whatever it’s called in the CBD of Darwin. It’s like one street and there’s like four bars on it. And any backpacker, he could speak their language. Any backpacker. It was really incredible!

 

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Anyway on his weekends, he was going out and living with Aboriginals out in the middle of nowhere. And there were like some, there were full bloods and it’s very rare to find full bloods, but in Northern Territory it’s more common. There’s no way you can find full bloods outside of Northern Territory or Northern New, Southern Queensland or Northern WA. And he started hanging out with these, basically semi-nude Aboriginals in the bushland near Casuarina Beach on the weekends. And he knocks on my door. I don’t know, it was like one in the morning, one random. It was like a Tuesday, or a Thursday. And he says:

 

“Hey Tom or hey Sewell.”

 

Everyone calls you by your last name in the army:

 

“Hey Sewelly, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. They need a linguist. He was a two commando guy, but for some reason he was in our battalion. And he says, I’m getting deployed tomorrow. I’m getting on a plane and I have to say goodbye to some people and I had to run some errands. Can you drive me?”

 

Because I was one of the only LID, which lid means new guy or live in digger. I was one of the only LID that had a car. And I was friendly with him, and everyone thought he was a weirdo and I did as well. Weird means different things to me than it does to other people. When someone says weird, they mean like not radioactive, but they mean, you know, semi-ostracized. They mean:

 

“Oh, we don’t associate with that guy because he’s a weirdo!”

 

Whereas when someone’s weird, I am fascinated by human psychology. And so I was always very friendly with him because I wanted to know what made him tick. He had such a different version of reality to everyone else that I just really wanted to understand. I mean this guy was probably in his early 30s and I think I was 19 or 20 at the time.

 

So I was like:

 

“Unk, how do you view the world? What’s going on, Unk?”

 

Basically I was the same relationship I have with Zoomers and is like that relationship when I was The Age that a lot of Zoomers are that asked me for advice And I’m now. I’m now 90.

 

But anyway, he says, he’s like:

 

“Sewelly, you’re the only one with a car. You know, can you drive me around? I gotta say goodbye to some people.”

 

And so he drives me out in the middle of nowhere, and then we go walking for like 40 minutes down this beach. And I’m like:

 

“What are we doing?”

 

And we find these Aboriginals just on this beach in the middle of nowhere. And they’re all sitting cross legged and around a little campfire. And he introduces me to them and he’s speaking their language, like full Aboriginal! Like whatever sect of Aboriginal they are. And he’s speaking their language. And he introduces me and he says a bunch of Aboriginal words.

 

And then he says my name. And then he says:

 

“5 RAR, 5th Battalion.”

 

And I was like:

 

“What did you say to them?”

 

And he said:

 

“You’re a young warrior from my tribe, from the 5th Battalion tribe. And that you’re a good warrior. You’re a good, young, strong warrior and that you’re helping me today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh.”

 

And then they all, like, acknowledged me. They’re all sitting different. So it was men. I was sitting with the men, obviously, and the women were sitting at a different campfire with the women, and it was segregated.

 

And so I was with the men and Knighty was explaining to them how I was a good warrior, a good young warrior of the 55 RAR tribe. And we’re sitting there and they’re just talking and talking, and I went into a trance. I was tired, but I didn’t know what was, … It was like someone had drugged me. I was in a trance and I was just staring at the ocean, because we’re on the beach. And I was staring at the ocean and the sky was purple.

 

And I was like:

 

“Is there something in this fireplace? Like, what? Like, am I on?”

 

I’ve never at this stage, I’d never tried any drug ever!

 

And I was like:

 

“Is this what acid feels like?”

 

That’s what I was thinking in my head.

 

And I was like:

 

“What is going on?”

 

And they’re making that noise that they make. They’re talking and yeah. And then the sun’s coming up and I’m like, what is going on? And I look at the time and it’s like 6:30. And it was just surreal! It was a surreal experience. And then he’s like:

 

“All right, we’re gonna go.”

 

He gave them bananas and double A batteries. And he taught them how to like Jerry rig a phone to be able to give co-ordinates so that he could communicate where they were in the bush using GPS. And it was just fascinating! It was just absolutely fascinating! That was my first positive experience with Aboriginals. And I had had only about 500 negative experiences with Aboriginals prior to that moment. And every negative experience I’d had with Aboriginals was them being drunk, or not even drunk, but them just behaving the way they behave, and then being violent and aggressive towards me for just existing, for just walking down the street or just going to the shops at two o’ clock in the afternoon. Or them harassing like pregnant ladies trying to get in their car, demanding money off them. Like just every experience I had was so negative.

 

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And then this was the first time I was like:

 

“I think I’m starting to understand these people. They live in a dream time.”

 

Like the proper full bloods. They live in a different reality to us. They don’t like time. The way we view time and the way they view time is completely different! And I somehow empathed in that moment into their little hive mind with Knightie, who was like my guide. His name was Christopher Knight, like a knight of Christ! And he was a very spiritually attuned man. And that was an experience I’ll never forget. I think I was almost, 20 years old. I was only 19!

 

But yeah, very interesting stuff. Very, very interesting stuff.

 

The stream looks frozen on my end. What is going on? No, no, it’s not frozen. Excellent! Yeah. What can I say? What can I say? I’ve seen the best of it and I’ve seen the worst of it. And the best of it is we should just leave these people alone. Like the problem is enlightenment. In a lot of ways, [chuckling] enlightenment has benefits, certainly. I’m not anti-enlightenment. You know, that’s a big part of how we’ve come to be. And it was a big part of our life cycle as a civilisation. It’s the second last phase of civilisation is enlightenment. The Greeks went through this around, I don’t know, 400 B.C. And yeah, I’m not against, you can’t be against it because it’s nature, it’s time itself.

 

But one of the dumbest parts of enlightenment is “equality”. That’s the dumbest part of enlightenment. The, the, that is the false enlightenment. The false enlightenment is that we’re all blank slates and that we’re all equal. That you know:

 

“All men are created equal before God and blah blah, blah!”

 

That is the most. How the hell. I don’t even know if they sincerely believe that. I can’t even fathom that they were that stupid that the people that colonised Australia, … Because when I read Clark, I’ve got it right here actually, this one here.

 

So this guy’s a communist. He’s a piece of shit, Leftist communist! And he wrote A History of Australia. I have, I’ve only read this one. I haven’t read the other volumes. I think this one ends around 1830. And he wrote this in I think 1961 or 62. And he’s a full blown communist and was investigated by ASIO for being, for coordinating with. Here’s the big boy here. Here’s the main man. Here’s the main man. Mr. Cook. Captain Cook. Anglo Saxon. Anglo Saxon. But yeah, Melbourne University. He’s a commie at Melbourne University.

 

Anyway, I read it. It’s quite interesting, quite subversive. But he, oh, he really emphasises the how enlightened Captain Cook and you know, Arthur Bligh and all these guys were and how they, but what’s interesting is he can’t hide the fact that despite their Enlightenment, despite the fact that they. Excuse me. They arrived in Australia and they tried to treat the Aboriginals as equals.

 

And so they’re like:

 

“Hey, let’s trade.”

 

And then there was nothing to trade. So they were like:

 

“Hey, let’s, …”

 

It was like a clash of values because they had these Enlightenment values and they didn’t know how to implement them on the Aboriginals. They didn’t know.

 

And so there was a whole bunch of different treat ways the Aboriginals were treated by European colonists. And I think it was the Portuguese and the Spanish in the Americas, but a little bit even in the Asia Pacific region, the Portuguese were in Asia Pacific as well. And they were basically like:

 

“You’re going to convert to Catholicism by the sword!”

 

And what Clark says is that they didn’t have those Enlightenment values. So you’ve got like Protestant Anglos trying to communicate with Aboriginals and like uplift them into humanity and uplift them into civility.

 

And then you’ve got the Portuguese with almost like pre-Enlightenment Catholic values that were just like “convert or die”. And that’s quite interesting. You know, it’s possible to talk about history without talking about Christianity. But yeah, that’s quite interesting. I won’t expand on that too much. You can gather from that what you want.

 

Yeah, where was I going with that? Yeah, he has all these little anecdotes or all these little stories about these first encounters and how, yeah, the enlightened English were just bewildered and were just like:

 

“We’ve never encountered this anywhere in the world!”

 

And he’s actually honest about the criticisms that they had. I think he might over embellish their enlightenment principles. I think they were probably a lot more racist than what he’s articulating because he’s a communist.

 

But yeah, I think I titled this Aboriginal communism, didn’t I? Before we get into the woman question, ultimately, if we don’t segregate from Aboriginals, we’re going to get destroyed by Aboriginal communism the way that what’s going on in South Africa, they’re dealing with African communism. And when you end apartheid and you mix or you attempt to get the races to all live together in equality and one is so different to the other, it’s a race to the bottom! And that’s ultimately what communism is, it’s a race to the bottom.

 

And it’s not just anti-enlightenment because there’s a lot of things that are anti-enlightenment, but it is anti-life! It’s ultimately anti-life because our version of life is an upward force, not a, so it’s hard to cover this without getting into the Greeks. You got to get into the Greeks because they figured all this out! And I don’t mean like the Greeks is in the souvlaki shop. I mean like the ancient Greeks, the philosophy.

 

The Greeks realised that when they went through their enlightenment that there’s not just being, there’s becoming. And that the ultimate being is becoming. And we use the word “progress” now and that word is obviously really dirty and that’s why I don’t use it. It’s a very dirty word. To say something is “progressive”, you’re saying it’s Leftist.

 

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And so the Leftists have actually somehow inverted “becoming” into “progression”. And so when they say it’s progressive, it’s actually regressive! It’s regressive of the total life force. Leftism is the downward path. It’s not Left versus Right, it’s up versus down! And this is something that you really need to understand. Communism, Aboriginal communism, jewish communism, any form of communism, any form of Leftist progression is a progression downwards! It’s progressing the life form downwards. And this applies to even politics of today.

 

So if you want to talk about party politics, if you want to call it that if you want to talk about Parliamentarianism, what the Labor Party here in. I know this is people like, I’m tuning out. I don’t want to hear this. But normies want to hear this. Normies, you do need to. If you’re listening to this, you’re probably not a normie. And you do need to know how to apply the logic that I’m articulating here in the stream to things other than ancient Greece and ancient Rome and like all this stuff, you need to be able to apply it to be able to explain it to, … You need to be able to speak in tongues and that doesn’t mean like that crazy Evangelical crap. That means you need to be able to speak the tongue of the people.

 

And so what the Labor Party here in Australia has done is they’ll get lost on this because they haven’t read a book on economics, but it’s this Keynesian economics where it’s window breaking. So they believe that if you keep breaking windows, the GDP will go up because the glazier is going to make more money. And, it’s all that in conjunction with Fabian socialism. So Fabian socialism is what:

 

“We want the windows to be broken because we want more money wasted on fixing windows instead of building the power system.”

 

And so Fabian socialists or Fabian Communists, Fabian Marxists. They’re ultimately Marxists. They want to create this workers revolution through accelerating the decline of society by wasting as much money as possible.

 

And so that’s why the NDIS is the way it is. That’s why the NDIS is bigger than the defense budget. That’s why we spend more money on parasites and retards than we do on protecting the nation from foreign invasion. It’s why we spend so much money on basically compounding problems. Not fixing problems, but compounding problems! And the problem itself is often the expenditure, the wastage, the fact that we’re taxing the noble, the good, the healthy, and we’re giving to the evil and the weak and the disgusting and the decrepit.

 

And this is Kali Yuga stuff. This is end of time stuff. This is what Hitler talks about in Mein Kampf. Why you have to read Mein Kampf. It’s not negotiable. It’s not negotiable! If there’s only one book you should read, it’s Mein Kampf, because he explains all of this. He explains exactly what’s happening, exactly why it’s happening and exactly what you need to do to stop it from continuing to destroy your society.

 

So that’s why they’re window breaking. That’s why the Labor Party and all the Greenies and all these freaks, they’re all on board with destroying society through taking money from good people and giving it to broken people. And what that does is that what you feed grows. And they know that! They know that! They know it and they’ve already projected how that industry is going to expand. And it is beyond political parties. I mean it’s the Uni-Party doing it. It’s not just the Labor Party. But it obviously gets worse under one and then the other does Labor Party light. They do Fabian socialism light. That’s what the Liberal Party is. It’s homosexuality light. Fabian socialism light. Retard economics light. You know it’s diet retardation!

 

Anyway. Aboriginal communism. Yeah. Where are we? Yeah. I don’t normally do Superchats mid conversation but Delvian said:

 

“Isn’t the abo love a second order consequence of White men becoming feminised and White women hating their own men?”

 

There’s definitely an element to that. I think there’s a lot of different components to the so-called “Aboriginal love”. There’s the false enlightenment, there’s self hatred. Yes. There’s virtue signaling. So society is structured wrong, which is what we’re going to get into with the feminine society and the woman question. Society is structured with an inversion of natural law. The moral framework of society is an inversion of what our society was built on.

 

So that is often described as late stage decline or degeneration where you forget what your purpose was to such an extent where it’s upside down. There’s obviously nefarious influence. There’s particular (((interest groups))) that are a particular ethno-religious orientation and they compound and accelerate and destabilise. Certainly. They’re obviously a major player in that process but it does happen on its own. And you know there’s a lot of, I won’t go into all the proverbs and quotes on the subject but this festering can only exist if you’re already going in that direction. What we need is a complete re-evaluation of values. And you know we have gone through two or three generations of a nihilist phase and we are re interpreting and revaluing our values. We are so far ahead morally of where we were 50 years ago. And people will aay:

 

“No! That’s not true. No! People were so conservative back in the day.”

 

And it’s like they were running off inertia. They hadn’t actually evaluated their values. They were just running off inertia. We’re actually so much further ahead by going through the decline, seeing the nihilism, seeing the hedonism.

 

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And I have so much faith and hope in the young generation. Young White people across the world, obviously, a lot of them are infected with the social disease. A lot of them are infected. But the ones that aren’t infected with the social disease have immunity. They have immunity! They have built up. They don’t need to be injected with anything. They have natural immunity! Young White people across the Western world are growing up immune to this social disease. And the disease of our time is not the plague. It’s not the Spanish Flu. It’s not? What is it? You know, all the ones that people, tuberculosis. It’s not these things that are killing people anymore, you know.

 

And Edward Dutton covers this a lot. I’ve talked about this on streams for years and years, and I’m so glad someone actually wrote a book about it. I’ve only read the blurb. I haven’t actually read the whole book, but I might actually get around to reading it at some point. But Dutton covers this and he explains that just the mutational load has the selection process now is, are you a retard or are you not? And if you’re not a retard, you’re most likely immune to the retardation that’s destroying our society.

 

So, yeah. All right, we’ll do it. We’ll go into the woman question. Check the comments first. Someone says:

 

“Ban women!”

 

No, we don’t need to ban them. Reese White says:

 

“Thomas. So are you a fan of Adam Green?”

 

I don’t really know anything about Adam Green. I’ve seen him on Twitter. He’s the anti-Christian guy, isn’t he? He’s kind of built like a platform. I haven’t seen him at all! I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t really know anything about him. I only know of him. Yeah, I can’t comment on that question. I’ve seen a lot of people attack him saying he’s jewish, and I’ve seen him say that Christianity is jewish.

 

So it’s like everyone’s saying:

 

“You’re a jew! No, you’re a jew! No, you’re a jew!”

 

And it’s like I’m not getting into it. It’s not in my sphere. I think I’ve seen him do chats with HT [Handsome Truth]. Yeah, we will cover a little bit of Christianity here. But yeah, you all know I’m not Christian. But we will cover it and we’ll cover it in a respectful way. I think that any criticism people have of Christianity should be done respectfully. I know that’s hard to do. It is very hard to do. But this is a, yeah, I try to be as secular as possible and yeah, let’s start with that. Let’s actually start with Christianity.

 

Let’s start with. If we’re going to talk about the woman question, let’s talk about Christianity.

 

So the Hebrew mythology or the Hebrew founding story is Adam and Eve. It’s a bit different to other founding stories, but you’ll find there’s so much similarities when you’re talking about the origins of man from. And I don’t use mythology. I don’t say mythology in a bad way. I don’t say it in a, I don’t mean it in a negative way. I’m not putting a pejorative on it. You know, all founding myth is myth. It’s mythos. We don’t know for sure, but we can respect myth. I respect myth. Yeah, and geez, we’re already into it.

 

But we all know the story Genesis. So we have this perfect garden of peace and harmony and the founding story of Christianity and therefore the founding message, the founding message of Christianity is that women are inherently attracted to evil. And breaching the peace and harmony of the garden that’s created by the father.

 

So it’s kind of like women inherently have to “shit test” a situation, a society, a these aren’t my words. This is not even my personal interpretation. I didn’t come up with this is what the Bible says.

 

And anyone that has a different version of Genesis is a moron and hasn’t read it. So many Christians haven’t read the Bible. Probably one of my main issues with Christians is that they haven’t read the Bible. I don’t think you should be allowed to call yourself a Christian if you haven’t read the Bible.

 

And likewise, I don’t think people should call themselves a National Socialist if they haven’t read Mein Kampf. I don’t think you should say that. I think you should say I’m interested in National Socialism, but I don’t think you should identify with it. You should hear the words from the man. He says it all. He outlines 95% of it in one book. And it’s a lot easier to read than the Bible. The Bible is a very hard book to read. It’s very tedious at parts. It, sure, it has beautiful parts, like all religious books have beautiful parts, but it is a very hard read. It’s a very long book. It’s like a million words. It takes a long time. Unless you race through it, if you race through it, you’re going to miss things. But Genesis is very clear. Like the first books, Genesis and Exodus, these things are very clear. Very, very clear. There’s no, not much nuance to it.

 

Now there’s obviously different mythological interpretations. What is the snake and what is the apple and what is God’s command and all this. But if you’re going to found a religion off this principle, it’s going to bleed through the whole text, isn’t it?

 

So whatever you’re reading later on in the Bible has to always come back to Genesis and a belief system that men and women were created unequally, that man was created from breathing life into dust or into matter. Women were created from the rib of man, so from the side. So it’s a peer, but it’s not an equal peer. There’s some sort of difference there. And so, I mean, obviously.

 

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But I was talking to Jacob recently and he’s been deep diving Plato. Absolutely deep diving Plato. I’ve read the Republic, but I haven’t read much else from Plato. And he was negging Aristotle, which I was surprised at because I actually prefer, at this stage, I prefer Aristotle to Plato, not to get too much into philosophy, but I’ve only read the Republic. So and I didn’t really rate it, to be honest. I thought it was an interesting dialogue, but I didn’t rate it as much as it gets glazed. But he’s been reading all the other stuff. Full deep diving into everything, every single thing the guy’s written. And what he said to me was, and this is very recently, he said to me that the Greeks believed that, or Plato believed, and this became quite a common belief system, that if that souls were created, this is before Christianity, they believe that souls were created fresh and that they were all men, that if you lived a bad life, if you were a bit, you know, weak or immoral, that you would be reincarnated in your next life as a woman. And this became a pretty well established belief system. And it’s interesting that that is in some way similar to Christianity, that they arrived at a position where they were ripe for proselytisation from Christian apostles.

 

So let’s start there. Obviously, European Paganism is many things, just as Christianity is many things. There’s so much schism within Paganism. And when you’re talking generally about Paganism, you’re talking about general principles which we know from Greek, Roman, Zoroastrian, Indus Valley, and obviously Germanic and Celtic Paganism. And people will cherry pick what they want.

 

There are female church leaders at the moment. I mean, that’s just absurd to me that the whole book is a document saying that women can’t accurately interpret God. They can’t accurately communicate or interpret or follow instruction from God. And therefore they shouldn’t be in charge of the Church. They can’t be in charge of society, they can’t be in charge of the Church. They just don’t possess the correct component to do that. And the whole religion is founded on that principle.

 

And then you have such a degradation of the Church that you now have women pastors and preachers and priests, priestesses or whatever you’d call them. I mean, it’s absurd! It’s not my church, I’m not a Christian. But the hypocrisy is despicable! It is truly despicable! So fascinating!

 

Now, Paganism has varying degrees of male and female relationships. Some interpretations of Paganism are a bit more equitable, others a lot less equitable.

 

So when we go back to the ancients and when we look at thousands of years of civilisation, there is not really any society that has treated men and women as the same, nor has there been a society that has treated women the way women are being treated right now! And it’s not a surprise that our birth rates are really low. Any society that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any civilisation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies. Any nation that behaves the way we’re behaving dies! And therefore it is a footnote in somebody else’s history.

 

So we have to reevaluate our values and we have to completely change the way we behave or we’re going to die!

 

And so the woman question is the same question as White genocide. It’s the same question as White replacement. You cannot separate the two. You can’t say:

 

“Let’s stick to just White nationalism and let’s not talk about how evil feminism is. Let’s talk about White replacement. But we’ve got to keep women on side. We can’t say things that might hurt the feelings of women.”

 

And as I said at the start of the stream, this is a really dumb, weak, coward strategy that’s going to cause us to die as a race! Women don’t respect pandering. They find it disgusting! Feminists are pure evil! And they will because of there’s some force, you know, Christians could say they’re possessed. And I do put a lot of weight in possession. I know not everyone does because not everyone believes they have a soul. And not everyone believes in metaphysics or in like a spirit realm. And so people that are very rational will say:

 

“This person’s unwell, or this person’s mentally ill.”

 

All means the same thing. Whereas the more religious or spiritual way of looking at it is this person is spiritually ill, this person’s potentially possessed. And this isn’t very electable, but I have witnessed what I could only describe as exorcisms. I have seen the way some people have behaved, and there is no rational or logical explanation other than this person is possessed. This person has a demon, a demon in them! They’re not at rest. They’re not in harmony. They’re not. There’s something that is currently occupying them and it’s potentially just a phase, but if it keeps occurring, it’s like there’s something that rears its head, something unbecoming.

 

And that’s a difficult conversation to have with people that don’t believe in demons. They don’t believe that it could be possible. They’re so far into post Enlightenment rationalism that just:

 

“It’s so irrational, the idea that there are forces beyond our control that could perhaps be bad forces!”

 

You know, we can acknowledge that there is a good force and inherently good force on earth, but then we want to pretend that there’s not an inherently bad force on earth?

 

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So instead of arguing about whether Christianity is cucked or not, instead a better conversation is, what can we learn from Christianity? Where is Christianity right? And where is modern Christianity wrong? Or where is Christianity philosophically wrong? That’s a much more important discussion and it’s a more respectful discussion as well. Because what you’ll find is I can have these conversations. I had a conversation recently, probably 20, 30 minutes, with some Christian guys in America, and we could have a respectful conversation about what’s happening through that lens, through that lens of that there is an evil that is possessing. There is a snake in the garden, and it’s corrupting women. And then women are corrupting men. And that women, sorry, men, are aware of the snake. Snake, but most men are not aware of how this snake has perverted women.

 

And so the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read] is we need to normalise Patriarchy. I’m a big, big proponent of Patriarchy. I think that Patriarchy is the only way to save the White race. We cannot save the White race through feminism. We cannot save the White race through equality. We can only save the White race through a proper Patriarchy. A proper Patriarchy! And whether you’re Christian, pagan, agnostic, enlightened, not enlightened, Catholic, orthodox, doesn’t matter! We cannot solve male, female. It does not matter! We cannot solve this problem without Patriarchy.

 

Now, it’s very easy for me to acknowledge Patriarchy because, one, I had a really good father. I have a really good father. My father’s still alive. I have a really good father. A really good father! And he has his flaws. Absolutely! And that’s product of environment and breeding and everything else. Right. We all have our flaws. I have my flaws. Product of environment and breeding and circumstance. But we’re on a mission! My bloodline has definitely been through the wars, and we’re on our way back up. All right. There’s a few more generations of work to do to really get us back on track. But I’m part of a Patriarchy. I have a lot of respect for my family name, my line, my lineage, my ancestry. This is really important to me.

 

And, it’s easy for me to accept and acknowledge this harsh reality. It’s not even a harsh reality. This reality because of what I come from. Women that have good fathers can accept this as well. Most women that can’t accept Patriarchy, they don’t have any respect for their fathers. And they don’t have respect for their fathers because their fathers don’t deserve respect.

 

Respect is not something that you’re entitled to. It is only earned. And I know that’s a platitude, and some people might think that’s a meaningless platitude, but that is absolutely core! Respect is earned! You’re not entitled to anyone’s respect. This is, I think, a false enlightenment principle that, like you should just respect the retard being moved around in the wheelchair. Like, what? What planet are these people on? Like, why that makes you a good person? How does that make me a good person? You know what quality of life is the drooling retard, God? And why are we wasting all our tax dollars paying for the drooling retard? This is solved very easily by Patriarchy. It’s not just solved by having a department in government that deals with the problem. It’s solved by Patriarchy.

 

And so one of the first principles of Patriarchy is that every man is king and priest and judge of his own house! I’ll say it again, for those that aren’t listening. The first principle of Patriarchy is that every man is king, is priest, is judge of his own house! And general. That was a component as well. There’s a martial component to it. And so every son, every boy wants to respect his father for the man that he is. And I can’t empath into how girls think, because I’m not a girl, but I would assume it’s similar. Not the same, but I assume it’s similar. I obviously have daughters. And you know what I was sad about when I was growing up? Not sad, but one thing I was surprised at was I asked my dad why he never joined the army. Because I know his dad was in the navy or in the Defense Force. I know his granddad was in the army.

 

And I remember asking my dad:

 

“Why weren’t you in the army?”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, look.”

 

Because they had the draught for the Vietnam War, and he was of that age, and he just never got called up. So he was like:

 

“Oh, I got lucky!”

 

That was his answer. I think he said something:

 

“I got lucky. You know, you put your birthday in. You had to register. You put your birthday in.”

 

And he said something about “balls with birthdays” on them. Like, it was like the lotto. Like, they’d pull a ball out. And if it was like, March 18th, which is my dad’s birthday, then you’re going, you’re signing up.

 

And I thought that was absurd! But it’s one way to do it. I mean, it’s fucking clown world! But anyway, that was his position, was like:

 

“Oh, he got lucky. He avoided it.”

 

And I always thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool? I always thought, wouldn’t it be cool to walk into my dad’s office and he’s got all his, like, armour and his rifle? And I just had this idea of like. And it’s probably ancient. It’s probably something like an altar, like an altar to Mars, like an altar to masculinity, an altar to the Patriarchy. And then to be able to see my grandfathers and you know there are families that still, they keep all their family medals, the war medals and stuff.

 

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But I mean let’s put that on steroids. It’s not just having like the medals, it’s like walk in and be able to see like generations and generations of uniforms and rifles and, or even before going all the way back to a family sword. That just, that idea is just so cool! And I think every like 10 year old boy thinks like that.

 

And if you don’t, you’re probably a faggot, or maybe you had the idea but in a different way. But if that doesn’t seem cool to you, yeah, fuck you basically! I don’t know. Yeah, you’re not in my gang, that’s for sure. You’re not in my tribe.

 

So back to the woman question. So [chuckling] respect, respect. You can respect that. And I didn’t respect my dad as much as I would have if we had something like that. If my dad had something like I kind of lost a little bit of respect for my dad when I was like 10 years old. When I was like:

 

“Why wasn’t my dad. His answer was he ‘got lucky’.”

 

I was like:

 

“Huh, I don’t know if that’s luck.”

 

You know what I mean? It’s like why would that be lucky? Obviously it’s a dumb war and blah, blah, blah and geopolitics is so broken and everything now.

 

But I think part of us is whether you go and fight in a war or not, I think men should be war-like. And I think the “retard budget” should be directed entirely into well first of all we shouldn’t be taxed as much as we are. So there shouldn’t even be a retard budget.

 

But obviously I like when we take power. I’m deleting the retard budget and putting all of it or most of it or some of it into building like the Stormtrooper halo suit Department. I’ve said this before.

 

To get back onto, someone just says:

 

“Fuck employment!”

 

[chuckling] Modern world does a Superchat:

 

“Thoughts on the employee question.”

 

I actually haven’t watched the podcast that young Michael Nelson did on the subject of employment but I can imagine what he was saying. My position has always been that you need to be productive, you need to be productive, you need to find a way of being productive. You don’t want to just sit around doing nothing! But you need to have times of sitting around doing nothing in order to think of productive things to do.

 

And when you’re in employment, like I have had nothing but issues with like Gen-X’s and Boomers that have employed me over the years where they want you to work 50, 60 hour weeks, they want you just in employment, they want you just head down and just hammer drill in the concrete and just ernnn! Or if you’re doing some other job that’s slightly more technical or less manual labour, it’s the same thing. It’s just head down and you’ve just got no time, no time to be a better man. You’re just stuck in a trap! You’re stuck in like a debt trap. And I don’t think there’s ever been a time in human history where anyone except slaves have worked six days a week or even five days a week. I just think that that’s slavery and they’re boxing us in. We’re getting boxed in and boxed in and boxed in! It’s so obvious what’s happening and it’s so obvious why Zoomers especially and Gen Alpha will be even more so, why people are checking out of this employee, … We’re just getting boxed in.

 

Like we’ve gone from nice blocks of land. There’s plenty of things to do, there’s plenty of animals to tend to. And then you work a couple days a week, you know, old mate needs help with something, you go help him, this guy and people were these warrior farmer builders first, and they were doctors and doctors and dentists and lawyers and tradesmen or skilled labourers second. And it was the pleb class. It’s always historically been the pleb class that became entirely microscopically focused on a singular trade. So like I do pottery, that’s all I do they live in a tiny little house in the city in Rome and they’re the Potter. And all they do is pottery and they just make pots and nothing else. And they do it six days a week, 12 hours a day. And they make pots and they sell the pots and they make pots and they sell the pots. That is what slaves do. That’s what slaves do. That’s slavery!

 

And so, but the whole economics is geared against us because of what they’ve done, because of interest, because of debt slavery. It’s because of debt slavery we can’t build intergenerational wealth where we can have big families on large plots of land where we can learn a whole bunch of skills and manage our farms and feed ourselves and look after ourselves in tight knit communities.

 

The whole economics is now geared that everyone’s a little bug, a little cog in the system. They do their little bug roll and they get their little bug ration and this is broken. This is not sustainable. It’s not going to last. How many generations is this going to go on for? Judging by how much Zoomers want to check out, I’d suggest that Alphas or Betas or what like two or three generations from now, if this problem hasn’t solved itself, I would assume things are gonna be very different.

 

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And obviously tying this into politics we’re gonna completely change the zoning laws. Part of the problem with this is people living on 200 square metre little blocks, apartments, townhouses. Part of this is just so dysgenic. We need to not be slave bug people. We need space, we need land, we need multitudes of tasks. Specialisation is key. Don’t get me wrong. We built higher civilisation because individuals did hyper specialise into things. But making pots is not a hyper specialisation. You know what I mean? Like historically people did their specialisation part time. They’d worked a couple days a week doing, and it was usually what was called journeymen. They were usually journeymen like if they were a dentist, or a doctor or whatever and obviously there was no such thing as a lawyer. The whole system worked differently, like tradition, ancient culture and the higher becoming. We have better technology now, but it’s made us, I think we can do both. I think we can continue to improve technology without living like bugs. And I don’t think that interest slavery helped us increase our technology. The increasing technology is part of the life cycle. It’s part of the life cycle of civilisation. And it’s not going to continue progressing in this direction forever for two reasons. One, the law of diminishing returns. And two, we are destroying our stock. So we can’t. We’re going to be in a system decline. The car, the calibre of men that built the society. We can’t even maintain it. We can’t even maintain it.

 

And there’s an elite. They call it elite overproduction. But it’s not. It’s the false elite overproduction. We’ve built a false elite and that’s why these rodents that are all 100, 105 IQ, they got Master’s degrees. They’re absolute midwits! They’re not idiots, but they’re absolute midwits! They are the ones running this into the ground. We have allowed midwits to take over society!

 

And I’m not going to talk about what my IQ is because I don’t think it’s super important, but I think it’s clear that it’s at least one or two standard deviations above average. And we’re having midwits go through university, male and female, and then they’re taking elite positions, but there’s not enough elite positions, so they have to create positions for these other fake elites.

 

And that’s like psychology, for example. You’ve got so many idiots going through university and studying psychology. And so we’ve created a whole industry of government rebates here in Australia and in America you’ve got all this drug prescription and all this mental illness and all this compounding issues of the parasitism of psychology. Psychology, psychoanalysis, psychotherapists, all of this is a parasite economy. They’re all parasites. They’re all parasites! It’s one giant parasite economy! And the purpose of it is to continue to make the problem worse so that they can have employment. And so they will never, ever be able to solve the problem because a purpose of a system is what it does.

 

So that’s just one element of university that’s caused this over education. We’ve got this over education where if you don’t go to university, you’re a moron. And it’s like we have more engineers and architects than we’ve ever had and our society is uglier and more broken! So it shows you that exclusion is the rule to greatness. You need to be exclusive in order to create hyper specialisation. You can’t just send everyone to university or the vast majority of people to university, and then think:

 

“Oh my God, society is getting so much better!”

 

It’s like, no, we’re running off the inertia of intelligent, hyper selective people. And the show’s about to come to a halt. We have printed so much money! They’re literally printing like $8 trillion, not a trillion, 8 billion dollars a day in the US to keep their bullshit fake economy going. And it’s just leading to the Weimar conditions. And we’re going to pay for all of this. We’re going to pay for all of this.

 

And that’s why you need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. And I’ve gone off topic from Patriarchy, but it all ties together. You can’t cover the subject without covering it all. Obviously. I’ll take a pause and I’ll come back.

 

Someone asked me about the employment question. Yeah. You gotta have skills. Look, you gotta have skills. Home of the brave, says:

 

“Tom, you’re the embodiment of the spiritual healing of the entire European race. Hey, we approach phase one of total re-migration of nons in the West. Segregation. Stay safe!”

 

Nah, I can’t do that on the stream. It’s a good question. I appreciate the question. Maybe I can leave that to the end. I can’t do that at this stage. I have to cover the woman question. Celine says:

 

“As a younger White woman, I’ve had to come to terms with Jesus being brown when I’ve always pictured him as a tall White man. Jesus being brown makes me deny it. Christianity is more of a woman thing.”

 

I don’t necessarily agree with. I don’t know what Jesus looked like. But I’ll tell you a really funny story. I’m not sure if I told this story on stream. Obviously all the Christian identitarians are raging at you now because they’re all saying Jesus was blonde hair, blue eyed, Aryan. I saw a really funny post yesterday or last night where some guy was saying that Jesus was Italian. He was like:

 

“He was born in Judea of the Roman province of Syria. He was therefore Roman. He was therefore Italian. Jesus was Italian!”

 

I just thought it was funny. Obviously he’s not being serious, but I wonder what the implications of everyone saying Jesus was Italian would be. And whether that’s like a bit of an icebreaker. Because it’s like people say Jesus is a jew. Well, the Bible says Jesus is a jew. And then Christian Identitarian said Jesus was like a Nordic Aryan. And then it’d be funny if we just say like:

 

“We meet at halfway and say Jesus was Sicilian or something!”

 

That’ll [chuckling] cause drama, won’t it, that one! But that just would be funny. We’re like, Jesus was White passing. That’s like the compromise. Now I know you people don’t believe in compromise. They want it one way or the other. Maybe that’ll keep the peace for like five minutes. If we just say Jesus was Italian. It’s a theory. What’s the funny story? So someone in the conversation tell me if I’ve said this before on stream. I can’t remember. Some [chuckling] guy replied, “smartest women woman”. Look, I think I’ve only told this story in person. It’s story time. I might have said it once on stream.

 

[1:33:41]

 

So the last time I was in prison last year I was in solitary confinement and I wanted a Bible. Actually, this Bible right here, this one right here. King James. I wanted a King James Bible because I got my other prison Bible. This is the prison Bible I got the first time into prison. It’s the NIV*. Look at that. [chuckling] Presented to Thomas Sewell, Melbourne Assessment Prison. That was in 2021.

 

[* The New International Version (NIV) is a completely original translation of the Bible developed by more than one hundred scholars working from the best available Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.]

 

Anyway. This is now:

 

“Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. Adam and his wife were both naked and they felt no shame.”

 

Genesis 3:16:

 

“To the woman, he said, ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe. With painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you’.”

 

“Then the Lord said to Cain, where is your brother Abel? I don’t know. He replied, am I my brother’s keeper? The Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen, your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for. You will be a restless wanderer of the earth.”

 

Yes, well, they got the mark on him. And I really wonder when circumcision started and when the restless wanderers of the earth started getting the anti-semitisms on him. Anyway, that’s just a theory. I won’t go too deep into that or piss people off.

 

But anyway, I got that version and I read it in full.

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow, okay!”

 

I probably should have read this the first time, but I wasn’t ready because you kind of you read the Bible when you’re a kid and you just like, you don’t read it properly, you don’t read it in full. And when you’re in solid confinement, you get a lot of time to read the Bible. And I read the NIV and I was like:

 

“Whoa, okay, this is definitely eye opening.”

 

And everyone’s trying to convert me. And I’m like:

 

“No, I can’t. Like, I just read it. I just read the whole thing. Are you kidding me?”

 

And they were like:

 

“You read the wrong translation.”

 

So then this time I went to prison. I went and got a King James. It didn’t make any difference for me. But I do think the King James is a better Bible. But story time.

 

So how did I get the King James Bible? So when I got to prison this time I got sent to Barwon, which is a much nicer prison. It’s older, but it is better. And because I was in Port Phillip before that. And they wouldn’t give me a Bible, they took my Bible off me. I got another NIV. I got a wait, is that King. No. So that’s a King James. No, they took it off me, sorry. I got that one later I got another NIV and when I got transferred from Melbourne Assessment the second time to the prison, the Barwon prison, they took my NIV off me and I had to fill out a form to get another Bible.

 

And I was like:

 

“Why? Why would you take the Bible off me? I don’t understand. Just let me keep the book.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Oh, it’s not your property. It’s the property of the MAP.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“So you’re going to send the Bible back to the MAP, back to the other prison?”

 

It’s just crazy! But they’re just there to fuck with you. That’s their existence. And they won’t even let a non-Christian man keep his Christian book. And so then I had to fill out a form to get a Bible. And to get a Bible you had to have a meeting with a priest.

 

So if you want a Quran, you could have a meeting with an imam. If you want to. Whatever it is what it is. I don’t know what the Buddhists have. But like there was these boxes you could tick. I ticked the Christian box and I picked the Anglican one because I’m an Anglo Saxon and I’m not a Catholic, I’m not orthodox, and my grandmother was Anglican. None of the men in my family went to church really, but the women did. And they were Anglicans and so, Church of England. So I picked the Anglican box and it took two weeks.

 

And then this guy, I get pulled out of my cell and I get put in like a visitor room and I’m put in there with a priest. And I’ll just check the comments. Have I told this story on stream? Because I won’t go into too much detail if I have. Oh Jesus, so many comments. Have I told this story before? I’ll just tell the story!

 

And so he was like. I asked him:

 

“Why are you Christian?”

 

And he told me a story. The priest, he said that when he was a teenager he was really angry and him and his mates went out to this golf course and they had a BB gun and they shot a bunch of magpies or something. A bird, I can’t remember what type of bird I think was a magpie. Magpies. And he just felt horrible! He just felt horrible about it afterwards. He had a lot of regret and guilt about killing these magpies.

 

[1:40:02]

 

And then, he was raised in a Christian household, in a Christian environment, but he just wouldn’t go to church. And after like leaving the Church for a year or two and kind of hanging out with the wrong kids and you know, doing bad stuff, like shooting magpies with BB guns, as like most 14 year old boys probably would if they had a BB gun, he started noticing the kids walking home from church. They just looked happier. They just looked happier. And he was like:

 

“I wanted that happiness. I wasn’t happy and I wanted that happiness. And so I started going back to church and I asked my priest, when I was 14, I said I want to be happy like the other kids, they’re all happy. Why am I happy? And the priest said to me, you have to surrender yourself to God. You have to be God’s slave. You have to submit yourself. And once you submit yourself, then you’ll be happy. Then you’ll finally find peace. Because you’re fighting God and that’s why you’re unhappy. And you just have to stop fighting. You have to give up! And when you give up and you let go, then you’ll finally be happy.”

 

And he says:

 

“Why do you ask?”

 

And I was like:

 

“So I asked because I’m not Christian, but I ticked the Anglican box because it was the closest thing that I could do. But what I really want is a Bible. So I’ve got something to read in here because they’re torturing me and I’d like a Bible.”

 

And he was just like:

 

“Oh, okay, okay, yeah, but why do you want to know why I’m a Christian?”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, I’m just fascinated. I want to know your story. Like you’re a priest. Like you’re obviously highly motivated to be a Catholic, Anglican priest. You know, I just, I want to learn more about your journey and like how that, how do you become an Anglican priest?”

 

And then we talk a lot more about this subject. And he’s very, he’s very apprehensive. He’s very like on the back foot the whole time, very defensive. And yeah, just the way he explained it to me, I said to him:

 

“You know, do you still have this same attitude? Like, do you still feel this way about God? Is that your relationship with God?”

 

And he said to me, he said:

 

“I wake up every morning, and the first thing I do every morning is I pray to God and I say, God, I am your slave. Let your will be done through me! I am your vessel. I am your slave on this earth!”

 

And I was like:

 

“You do that every morning?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yep, that’s what I do.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Wow! That is fascinating!”

 

And he’s like:

 

“It is, isn’t it? And I know that might sound really intense, but it works. It works for me! And I’m so much happier. Life is so much easier this way. It’s just so much easier! Like, I don’t feel what I used to feel. And, look, I still have challenges, and I’m a grandfather now, and da, da, da, da. But life is just so much easier this way!”

 

Okay, [chuckling] what the fuck! Okay. Anyway, an hour goes by, we shake hands, and he goes:

 

“Nice to meet you, Tom. Blah, blah, blah.”

 

And then the second time I meet him, so I ticked the box again. I want to have another conversation. He says to me right at the end, he goes:

 

“Do you want to meet me again? Do you want to talk to me again?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely! I really enjoyed this conversation.”

 

“Are you sure?”

 

I said:

 

“Yeah, I really enjoyed this conversation. I really enjoyed it. I would like to meet you again.”

 

And he said:

 

“Okay, well, what about next week?”

 

And I was like:

 

“Maybe not next week. I need a bit more time to digest this conversation. But maybe give me two weeks.”

 

He said:

 

“Okay, two weeks, Same time, same day.”

 

I’m like:

 

“Excellent!”

 

So this is my only human contact. I’m in a concrete box for two weeks straight. And then I meet up with him again. He walks in and he’s nervous. He’s so nervous! And he says:

 

“Tom, I have to be honest with you. I Googled your name. I thought I recognised you, but I Googled your name, and it was really hard for me to come in today.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Oh! Why is that?”

 

And he said:

 

“Because, … There’s a lot of people in this prison, and they’ve really beautiful people that have done really horrible things. And I’ve never felt like this before where I felt selfish that I didn’t want to come in. But I prayed to God this morning, and I said God, I don’t want to talk to this man. I don’t like this man. I think this man is evil, and I don’t want to speak to him. What should I do? And what God told me was that’s why you have to go speak to him. Because he’s evil. Because he’s evil, you have to go speak to him. That’s why!”

 

I was like:

 

“Oh, okay, all right.”

 

And then I said to him:

 

“You ever spoken to a paedophile?”

 

I said:

 

“Have you ever felt that way about a paedophile?”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, no. There are some really beautiful people in this prison. Some really beautiful people in this prison.”

 

“Never felt that way about a paedophile? Okay, interesting! Well, luckily, you are God’s slave, and that God forced you to come in here today to speak to me!”

 

And [chuckling] he said:

 

“I want to show you something. I want to show you my God! I want to show you my God!”

 

And I was like:

 

“Okay, you want to show me your God?”

 

“Are you ready? Are you ready for my god?”

 

It’s this weird, passive aggressive, feminine. He’s got tears in his eyes. And he’s like:

 

“Before I do, can I ask you a question? Why did you want to speak with me?”

 

[1:46:16]

 

And I said to him:

 

“Because I told you the truth last time. My grandmother was an Anglican. I’m an Anglo Saxon. I ticked the Anglo box, not the Catholic box. Simple as.”

 

And he was like:

 

“But me specifically, did you know I was the Anglican priest. Me, personally?”

 

And I was like, I think his name was [changed]. And I was like:

 

“Leslie, I don’t know who you are. I just know that you’re an Anglican priest.”

 

He goes:

 

“You don’t know about my past?”

 

I was like:

 

“No, I don’t know. What is your past?”

 

And he said:

 

“Well, I want to tell you a story, Tom. You know, I had to take a stand against, … I mean, there’s a lot of evil men in the world., …”

 

And he’s talking like a lesbian. He speaks like a lesbian, right? He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of, …”

 

Like a feminist. He’s like:

 

“There’s a lot of evil men in the world. And Donald Trump comes to mind, and Adolf Hitler comes to mind. And when I was younger, there was a man that came to power in Australia that reminds me of Donald Trump, and his name was John Howard. And when John Howard came to power, he had an immigration minister called Peter Dutton, who you might know, because he was running for prime minister recently. And they imprisoned people in concentration camps on, …”

 

I think it was like, Manus Island or something, one of these islands off the coast of Australia:

 

“And there were these people, these desperate, honest, loving, caring, they were God’s children, and they wanted to come to Australia, and they begged for our help and our safety. And they were refugees, …”

 

And he’s literally crying! He’s literally crying!:

 

“And we locked them and their children in concentration camps on these islands and treated them so horribly! And I had to make a stand, so I went and visited them!”

 

So he goes to the concentration camp and he’s like. [chuckling] He says:

 

“And I like painting. And I met this man, and he was a refugee, …”

 

And I think he was Iranian or Iraqi or something like that. I think Iraqi. And he goes:

 

“And I met this Iraqi man, and his name was Fadim, …”

 

Or some shit! And he goes:

 

“I said to him, you are so beautiful! You are such a beautiful man. Can I paint you? I want to paint you. Will you let me paint you?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Yes, I’ll let you paint me. And then I painted him.”

 

And it’s hot. It’s so weird! He’s holding a, he’s got like a, he’s got the, … Imagine this is the painting of the guy, but he’s got it like this, and he’s holding it on the table, and he’s holding it upside down. And he’s holding upside down on the table, and he’s like:

 

“I want to show you this. And the reason why I want to show you this is because when I was painting him, I looked into his eyes and he was crying. He had tears in his eyes as I was painting him. And I was painting him. And the whole time I was thinking about Jesus on the donkey going into Bethlehem as a refugee, needing safety. And I thought, this man is from that region. This man is from the same region, very similar region, near the Euphrates. And he’s a refugee as well., …”

 

You can predict the whole conversation, can’t you? Like, I’m drawing it out, but I’m drawing it out for effect. This was the tone this guy was taking with me.

 

“And I still remember. And I thought to myself, this is what Jesus would look like, and this is how Jesus would feel if he was here right now with us, seeing what John Howard, behaving in a fascist man manner, putting these innocent people in concentration camps! This is how Jesus would be looking at me. So I painted him. So I painted my God! This is my God, Thomas! This is my God!”

 

And then he shows me a painting of a brown man crying. And he’s like:

 

“This is my God! How do you feel?”

 

A picture of a brown man crying. And I was like:

 

“Fascinating! Fascinating! That’s your God?”

 

He’s like:

 

“I want you to have this. I want you to put this up in your cell.”

 

And I was like:

 

“No, no, I don’t want it. It’s your painting.”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, this is a copy of it. This isn’t the one I painted. This is a copy. I want you to have it. I want you to put this in your cell and I want you to look at my God! And I think that will really help you and I think that’s why I was sent here today to give you this painting.”

 

And I was like:

 

“It’s a decent painting. You’ve done a good job painting it, for sure. This is not my God! This is your God. This is not my God! I can’t put this in my cell. It’s just not my God! Not my God! There are many gods. This one’s not mine. This is your one!”

 

And [chuckling] that was the end of the conversation! And yeah, fuck, I’ve just had too much life experience at this stage! [chuckling]

 

[1:52:11]

 

And when I got out of jail, I’m gonna Google this church that this guy’s from. And it’s like gay flags and trans rights and refugees are welcome and all this shit!

 

And it’s like [chuckling] women pastors! These people, they’re sick! They make me sick! People in the chat saying, Jesus’ Italian. Man. A lot of, lot of Superchats to go through. Jeez. How much more do you want me to go, in a detail about that one? Oh, I don’t know what it is. It’s not dopamine, but it’s some sort of chemical. There’s some chemical in the brain. It’s just surreal! It’s like a surreal chemical. It’s not dopamine. It’s the surrealism of it. It’s the surrealism. Hyper, hyper, what do they call it? Hyper realism. How are these people real? They share this planet with us. What planet are they on?:

 

“I felt really bad for the magpies. That’s why I had to go back to the Church!”

 

Well, yeah, obviously you shouldn’t just like indiscriminately kill animals!

 

But what he was doing at 14 was what all 14 year old boys do, is they’re testing themselves. They’re seeing, can I do it? Can I do it? Can I put meat on the table? Can I put meat on the table?

 

And I said to him:

 

“Are you a vegetarian now?”

 

When he talked about the magpies, I said:

 

“Are you a vegetarian?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No, no, I’m not, but I make sure I thank God every time I have meat. And I thank God for what’s happened to the animal and pray for the animal.”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Yeah, that’s fair enough. That’s good. I respect that.”

 

I have a lot of respect for that. I think that’s important when you take life and you’re consuming that life. Trans. The transmutation of it. Transubstantiation. Yeah. Like you’re putting meat on the table and you shouldn’t indiscriminately kill, but you’re doing what all teenage boys do when they’re going through puberty is they’re seeing not just if they can do it, but they go over the top. You know what I mean? They go a little, you go a little bit over the top and then you dial it back in. You’re like:

 

“All right, that was unnecessary.”

 

But he’s gone, he’s dialled it back in so much that his God is a brown man crying. That he has to live with White people!:

 

“He has to come live with the White people! He has to! We have to let them in! We have to!”

 

This is what his God wants. So look, obviously if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this, you would be disgusted by that story, that this is the calibre of priests. This is not Patriarchy. This is not the original church. This is not anything like the Greeks or the Romans or the Hebrews or even the jews. This is like the jews don’t even behave this way. This is like sub-Aryan and sub, even sub-Hebrew behaviour. And like ancient Hebrew, if we’re going to call it that. But this is like a completely poisoned chalice and these people are church leaders.

 

And so, yeah, it’s been completely infiltrated by communists. This is the downward path. They’re cherry picking document a book that has a lot in it.

 

As I said, the Bible’s a million things! There’s a million words in it. There’s a lot going on in that book. You can cherry pick whatever you want to articulate something, but what you can’t lie about is the general progression of themes and the general moral structure that the Bible is putting forward.

 

Now, is there, in my opinion, contradictions of the moral structure? I think there are some things that, and I’ve discussed them, I won’t go into them today. But you’ve all heard me say what I think is contradictory in there, within the moral, within the framing of a lot of things. And in short, I don’t like the story of Jacob and Esau. I don’t like that story.

 

Well, I mean, I don’t like the character! I don’t like the individual. And I don’t like the moral of that story. I think it is either miswritten or it’s not correct, it’s not right, it’s not fair, or there’s missing data, something’s missing from it. In my opinion. Like that would be the only way I could describe it as a moral story. Anyway. But the Bible’s full of that, of this kind of fight of morality. And you can see the schism of morality. You can see the schism of an ethnicity or the schism of a people are schisming, which is I guess one of the main themes of the whole text.

 

But if we just come back a little bit and we don’t talk about the Bible and Christianity, we just talk about the theme of Patriarchy, which is beyond just Christianity. I think that’s one thing the pagans and Christians can both agree on, is that we need Patriarchy.

 

And I think the Christian view is that women are inherently prone to an evil influence, just as men are, but that it infects the women first. And you can kind of see that with how giving women the right to vote and the late Enlightenment values of total, absolute human equality led to the suffragettes and led to women voting and led to first wave, second wave, third wave feminism that has come out of that structure. And we can see the damage that that has done to society. Anyone that can’t is obviously an idiot! But we can see the damage that it’s done. And yet women are also capable of fixing the situation. That’s also interesting.

 

As I said before, when I started women, more women voted for Adolf Hitler than men!

 

[1:58:41]

 

 

So that is a very redeeming quality when you realise that. Well, hang on a minute. Why? How could that possibly be? How could that possibly be? And what that might give a little bit of Credence to is this idea that when there is a strong leader, when there is a return of masculinity and a return of Patriarchy, women are actually more inclined to notice it than men. Women are more intuitive to the cure than men are. They’re more sensitive to the disease, but they’re more sensitive to the cure as well.

 

So I had a thought that ran through my head yesterday or the day before, which was, if we don’t contain women or restrain women, who will? Who’s going to? Because what we can see by the decline of the last hundred years of civilisation is we have removed the barriers, all barriers, every barrier possible, and said:

 

“No. Men and women are exactly the same!”

 

And we have done this to the detriment of women. We have not improved their life, and more importantly, we have not improved civilisation, and we have not improved the fucking mission. And the mission isn’t to make women happy. I want to make that very clear. That’s not the mission. It’s not to make men happy either. You know what this guy’s talking about? It’s like he accepted God because he wanted to be happy. That’s what Nietzsche talks about. That’s crazy! Well, it’s not crazy, but it’s like, that’s not why you should accept God. That’s selfish! That’s not the mission. Morale is not your happiness. It’s your willingness to fight. You have to fight for a mission. You have to fight for a purpose, for meaning.

 

And I believe you have to fight for life itself. Life is an upward struggle. And my religion, my personal religion is what my interpretation of Hitler’s religion is, which is that it’s about struggle into victory. And that these things aren’t necessarily steady states or acts of being, but they’re acts of becoming. Struggle is an act of becoming into victory, which is also an act of becoming.

 

So it’s never ending. It never ends. It’s like beyond time because God has to be above time. God can’t be subject to time because then he’s not God. So God is above time. So therefore, struggle and victory have to be conceived as being principles above time. That it’s like infinite struggle for infinite victory. It’s just like a yeah, it’s like you got a hail victory and you got a hail struggle. You got a hell struggle to hail victory! You know, which is a bit. Yeah, a bit different to:

 

“I just wanted to be happy! I just saw all these people around me and they were happy. And I just wanted to be happy. I just wanted to be a good person because I was a bad person!”

 

You know what? Yeah. [chuckling] Very different sense of moral structure and moral framework. So yes, Patriarchy, restraint, it’s about building a world that is driving towards this goal. And the relationship between men and women in that world is one built off respect, not pandering.

 

And so the issue with our society at the moment at a just socio-economic level with 50, 60% divorce rate, with the family courts tearing families apart like all the societal diseases we’ve got, is about, what they all come down to regarding the bad relationships between men and women and is that women have on average more respect for the government and more respect for the system, for the justice system or for the police than they do for their own husband and their own father. That’s the issue!

 

So a system needs to be built by husbands and fathers that form a collective, that form an organisation that are all on the same page with how they’re managing their family. It’s up to them how they manage their family. But they’re all roughly on the same page as to how they manage their family. A nation is a collection of families. It’s not a bunch of gay men masturbating into each other’s assholes and adopting kids. That’s not a nation. That’s just craziness! A nation is a bunch of families. You know, the family is the building block. This is not a meaningless platitude. It is the truth! You cannot have a nation without families. Because a nation is an extension of the family.

 

And so therefore the leader of a nation has to be the extension of the leader of a family. And the leader of the family is the father or the grandfather or the great grandfather, if he’s still alive. Like that is the leader of the family.

 

And that’s how society has always worked. And it’s a sacred, ancient, basically unwritten rule. I mean, we don’t even need to write this down. This is a reality.

 

And anyone that disagrees with that reality is our enemy. Because they disagree with it, because they care more about something else than making our society, our civilisation, our blood, our spirit, our life force, move upwards. They care about something else. They care about some sort of momentary happiness or some sort of:

 

“I want to feel good. I want to get along with everyone.”

 

Like this is their God, this is their God!

 

And so those people shouldn’t be given the same rights as the Patriarchs, as the people that acknowledge that:

 

“Hang on a minute. We’ve tried that. What it leads to is like millions of Indians and Arabs and Africans coming into our country and just like raping and pillaging and destroying it economically, socially, and sometimes unfortunately, physically.”

 

And these consequences are obvious. And we’re going to structure society in a way that this doesn’t happen going forward. So yeah, it’s non-negotiable. I’ll go through the comments and wrap up the stream.

 

[2:05:06]

 

Where are we? Where are we? Celine’s got another question. Just something about I don’t like Christians. Cool. Three story Rory:

 

“G’day, Thomas. What do you think about starting a petition for Joel Davis similar to one for Brandon Koschel? Chances of their release are low, but this activism can rally support and drive attention.”

 

A petition? I don’t understand what a petition is. Yeah, I’m not in the petition business because it doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. There’s a petition to deport me to New Zealand with a hundred thousand signatures, and yet here I am in Melbourne, Australia.

 

So look, the way we get Joel out of prison is either he’s released because the Supreme Court has a sense of the law and will enforce the law and the law says that he should be released from prison. And the Supreme Court follow through with that because the magistrates certainly don’t uphold the law. They’re activists. They’re political activists that do what the politicians tell them to do. That’s the only way to get him out of prison. Or we wait for the infinity amount of time he’s got to be in prison.

 

But yeah, sorry, a petition is not going to do anything. It’ll help raise awareness and that’s really the purpose of petitions. But no, I’m not in that business:

 

“Thank you for your sacrifices and bravery. God bless!”

 

Yep, thank you. A lot of comments. A lot of comments. Fanny Schrute says:

 

“Jesus was Italian.”

 

I think that’s the way to go. Someone gives me $100 for the cause:

 

“No need for acknowledgment.”

 

Thanks, mate. Celine’s got another one. Something about KGV, Shakespearean old English language. Stone Mountain:

 

“What are your thoughts on infidelity in women versus infidelity in men? And are our highly successful Chad man with multiple baby mothers a greater good or bad for society?”

 

Oh, that actually brings me to what I was meant to talk about the manosphere and stuff and we just end up talking about Christianity. Yes. That actually brings me to the second half of the stream, and we’ve been going for like two and a half hours. It’s crazy! This is madness, guys!

 

Yes, yes. Look, let me get a glass of milk. Let me get a glass of milk. And I have all these thoughts that I’m gonna put down. Because there’s just been so much chatter about the manosphere and looks maxing and Louis Thoreau’s recent thing. And I made a little post. Obviously most of you have probably already read my post, just explaining, the TLDR [Too Long-Didn’t Read]. These people that are trying to embarrass the manosphere, which is quite easy, clearly. These people are not morally triumphant. These people are equally as bad, if not worse than the manosphere. And don’t get blindsided by this and fall into some trap where you’re going to take moral, what’s it called? Not legalisms, like lectures. Don’t take moral lectures from these freaks! These people are easily as bad, if not worse than the manosphere people. The manosphere people, a lot of them are not good people. I want to make it clear this next segment is not in defense of the manosphere. I’m not saying that. I’ll explain how you should accurately interpret why this phenomenon exists and how it needs to transmute into something much better. I’ll be back. I’ll just close this little thingy. Two minutes.

 

[2:11:12]

 

 

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DJTriumph
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18 hours ago
the James Mason podcast was great
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FLmetalhead
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Where is it?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Jaymeo1
12 hours ago
Link ?
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
11 hours ago
Where is it?
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baileyspunts
13 hours ago
Man i love when Sewell streams. White pill every time
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LachlanMD
21 hours ago
L foids
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RoseRock444
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19 hours ago
Nah. W foids
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Jomaha22
20 hours ago
Every time I see that text “manosphere” I cringe. Where did this analogy came from? Ayn Rand male equivalent?
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
im guessing its the “every single time” crowd
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christophawilkins
16 hours ago
hail
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
great to see another talk mate
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squatmech
18 hours ago
There never anything wrong with the volume wtf is wrong with these people it’s like if you get kicked out of hundred bars but with low volume…
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eclipseNF
14 hours ago
What’s the 5 hour stream where is it?
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Hazelmango
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10 hours ago
https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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eclipseNF
9 hours ago
Thanks a lot

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
whats gonna get too us 1st, terminator or mad max?
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Mad Max. These fuel shortages are serious & AI cannot become conscious – it is built from outside-in, life evolves and self-builds from inside-out.

imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
ive never heard of any abbos trying to claiming other abbo land that was taken in their tribal warfare, but the land whites took on the other hand will always be theirs??? and dna shows the have only been here for about 5000 years, coming from india and they were not the 1st people in australia, the originals were eaten by them.
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TRUTH1488
11 hours ago
Where can I find that james mason podcast
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Hazelmango
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https://ftjmedia.com/live/0/DaveGahary/ls/2444
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Tax_Cow
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5 hours ago
Our boomer parents have been hooked on the TV since childhood and they’ve been soaking up jewish propaganda for so long that they aren’t capable of independent thought. Despite whatever their friends and family say, what the TV says is the bottom line. Unwitting agents of our destruction, professing to be enlightened because they watch the talking heads on TV every night.
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CrazyRecluse
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1 hour ago
Tom, im glad you still give Abos a chunk of land as their own country. African americans & native americans are similar. Thats the best way. I like wat you are doing but im softer on nons. I feel that at this point we may have to give all nons a chunk of western nations, as their own nation. Set cameras up and make documentaries on how they make a clean 1st world society to a 3rd world shithole. Juxtapose it with our first world living. This way we will document in 4D why we will never live with them again. We would play multiple weekly reality TV shows akin ‘Running Man’ & ‘Hunger Games’. This would change our culture. Then we will make museums to store these films and all the injustices we suffered with/from them. Especially the lil caps. Then maybe in the future we might decide to conquer them & retake the land, and put them where we want, maybe isntreal? Or put these brown masses in africa, or somewhere low on resources, since they cant mine them anyway. Tom, I also think 90%+ whyte is a good target. Because the good ones that help us have a reason to. But once we have control we can create policies to reduce their breeding over time: a white centred society; they will admire us or leave; we will be re-morale-ized; etc. If they dont want to accept it, they can always leave. Caramel island is an alternate choice for them too.
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birdhouse456
15 hours ago
The problem with “where is the aboriginal land” is that their concept of it completely different to ours. We look at different metrics. They can’t just pick up and move their culture because it’s linked to place. If they don’t want to give that up they will be motivated to go to war regardless. Or, they’ll just be squeezed out and fade away, because once they are away from their territory the culture doesn’t function. Now we have a hybrid that succeeds at neither way. Maybe there can be agreement with some tribes but others will disappear completely. it’s similar to the clans of the Scottish Highlands. The culture survives, but it’s not what it was.

BossLurker
9 hours ago
Parasites and retards

BossLurker
9 hours ago
The whole “in the past they weren’t truly conservative they were only going off inertia” is actually an extremely good point

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BossLurker
8 hours ago
Around 59:27

leibekohne
5 hours ago
Tom you have some criticism from USA NS bit-chute or odysee. The abos solution is good. I will give them a bare-bush land without any infrastructure, also they have to create own if needed financial system with own currency. This is about purity and recuperation of race thus Australia + has to be 100% white otherwise there will be no progress.Those idiots want to convert abos and save theirs lives but had no problem with murdering 35.000 white Boers woman and children. Cake destroyed Egypt Greek Roman empires by usury and by miscegenation. 1000 year of Romans were destroyed by 100 years of Christianity=Judaism 2.0= children blood drinking sacrificing cannibalism. Germany were destroyed in WW2 by another stupid and manipulated white men who should know better. White international unity.

CrazyRecluse
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56 minutes ago
Tom, I emotionally agree to boot out all leftists, or white antiwhites. But something for you to consider: Richard Spencer says that whites can build because we have all levels of people Elites, managerial class & working class. Dr Ed Dutton “white race functions like a bee hive”. So we might need to select the better ones and put in breeding policies to get them to their 15% balance. Because nearly all managerial class are leftists.

eclipseNF
14 hours ago
More and more blackpilled every single day
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imSofaKingRayZest
12 hours ago
life is struggle mate, learn to laugh in the face of these demons and keep the sprits of our ancestors lovingly in your heart. heil victory
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trvkvlt
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Thomas Sewell is my rabbi
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drshreddie
6 hours ago
you need a better background, the baby blue with the books isnt working. How about a more masculine color with a NSDAP banner? I know this seems trivial but perception is a big deal and your message is important.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and good evening and welcome to tonight’s stream. We are live on Odysee. We are live on Rumble. We are live on DLive and we’re live on Entropy. So you can find me in all of those good places. And if one of those places decides it no longer wants to work for whatever reason, you can hop on over to another. Plenty of options there.

 

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And as I’ve said before, if enough people took out subscriptions, I would be absolutely over the moon, because that would really help me out. It’s a small amount to everyone who does it, but to me it makes a great big difference when it all adds up.

 

So you can donate to me now during the stream, and if you do donate to me during the stream and if you attach a message to it, I will absolutely ensure that I answer that message at the end. Because I will do a Q and A, or a Q and A at the end, I’m not just going to do my presentation and leave this. I am going to answer your questions, if you send those questions in. And you can send the questions via Entropy or via Rumble. And I’ll be monitoring the chats through the stream to collect all of them.

 

You can also donate via crypto-currency, all the crypto links in the description below. And finally, you can write to me at mark@thefallofwesternman.com. Very easy. You can write to me there. Get in touch with me if you wish to.

 

Now, before we go any further, I’m going to say something that I say every time I do one of these big, more contentious presentations, and that is, can you please listen to it all?

 

Now, I always say this because there are people that dip in and dip out, and unfortunately they’ll hear something that they don’t like or that they find objectionable. But maybe I’m saying that, making an argument and I’m playing devil’s advocate, maybe they take something out of context and they get annoyed and then they send me an angry email or write a comment saying:

 

“Why did you say this?”

 

Please listen to it all. This is going to be a long stream because I’ve got a lot to say, but I think what I’ve got to say will be very helpful to a lot of people. So please do listen to it all.

 

Now the reason it’s going to be helpful and the reason you should listen to me on this is because I’ve been around for a long time. I’ve been around in this movement for 26 years, and I have been actively involved in what was Britain’s most successful ethno-nationalist political party to date, which was the British National Party at its height. And I was involved in local elections and national elections. I was involved in frontline activity and back room activity. I was the leader of the Young BNP, I was the head of publicity, and I stood for election numerous times and did proper campaigns, knocking on doors, speaking to people. I have proper experience of all of this. And I know where things can go wrong and I also know how to make things go right. So I am somebody you should listen to.

 

But also there’s another reason you should listen to me. When I first got involved in the BNP, it was around the year 2000, and back then there was a wealth of older nationalists involved in the BNP that had been involved in the 1970s.

 

So if you were sort of in your 30s in the 1970s, you’d have been in your 60s in the 2000s. If you’d have been in your 20s, in the 70s, you’d have been younger. Some people got involved at the end of the 70s, 78, 79, and these were men still in their prime and they imparted a wealth of information to people like myself, people who are active, people who would listen, people who were dedicated to the party. So I not only viewed things firsthand in the BNP at its height, and I was there for a decade, but I also have a wealth of information about where things went wrong in the 80s, in the 70s, about the factionalism, about the electoral failures, about the splits. And this is very important information. And if it’s kind of lost to time, we lose something that we should all learn from.

 

[05:31]

 

So that’s another important reason to listen to me. Not just because of the knowledge I have, but because of the knowledge that’s been handed down to me.

 

Now, I want to say this as well before we go forward. I’m not going to trash Lupert, … Rupert! Well, that’s a good start. [chuckling] I’m not going to trash Rupert Lowe tonight. There are some people out there who are ethno-nationalists and they are going out for him, and there are people who are civic nationalists going out for him.

 

And I think not all of this, but some of the people who are trashing him, trashing his team, attacking his party, trying to rubbish him, are doing this out of a degree of envy and bitterness!

 

Now, there’s a lot of bitter people in nationalism. There’s a lot of people in nationalism who have what I call “Main Character Syndrome”, where if they’re not the leader, if they’re not the last guest speaker upon stage, if they’re not the centre of attention, they have to cause endless drama, endless splits, start their own party, and then rather be in a room of 10, 12 people as the boss, than they would be in an auditorium with tens of thousands as just a local organiser, or a valued activist. And I sometimes wonder, you know, where these people would have been pre-Second World War, when Mosley was holding his giant indoor speeches, and he still has the record for the largest indoor political rally in British history.

 

And I wonder where these people would be then. You know, there’d be the people saying:

 

“Don’t back Mosley, back me!”

 

They’d be in a corner of a pub somewhere, corner of a smoky pub in the East End, talking to 10 people as Mosley was filling a stadium. And this sort of Main Character Syndrome, this bitterness, this envy, has caused a lot of people over the years to attack those who are more successful, who are better speakers, who are more able to lead. Not because they think that the person who is better qualified, you know, is actually a bad person, but because they’re jealous! Because they’re desperate to be that person and have what that person has. And that’s not just confined to nationalism, that’d be confined to lots of political spheres or found in lots of political spheres. And I’m sure there are, I will mention, some Civnats who are also attacking Rupert Lowe now out of what I believe is jealousy.

 

But I’m not going to be trashing him. So anyone who came here tonight to hear me read out all of his old tweets or talk about his time as chairman of Southampton Football Club or anything like that. That’s not what it’s going to be. This isn’t going to be a character assassination.

 

So, sadly, if you’ve come here for the character assassination, sorry, you’re gonna be disappointed. This is going to be a serious presentation that’s going to last maybe an hour and a half, maybe two hours, because there’s a lot to say. And just to reiterate, we’re going to start now. We’re going to start. But just to reiterate, listen to it all. Don’t listen to part of it, listen to it all.

 

And we’re breaking it down into three parts. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

 

And if you noticed, I use my graphic design skills to actually sort of recreate the fonts using used on the Good, the Bad and the Ugly DVD box set. When I made the graphic, which I was quite happy with, actually, I was quite happy with that graphic. Give myself a little pat on the back there for using my design skills. Hopefully you all noticed that, and if you didn’t, I pointed it out because I wanted you to notice it.

 

Anyway, we’re going to start with the Good. And the Good starts really well! Now, I like Rupert Lowe and I’ve done several streams where I’ve talked about him.

 

Now, if you watch the first stream I did about Rupert Lowe, which was Farage versus Lowe, I pointed out a few things that I was concerned about with Rupert Lowe, a few things that I was a little bit worried about, and I was a little bit critical and said:

 

“Can we trust this man?”

 

Now, I didn’t do that to trash him. I did that because I didn’t know enough about him. And when I hear that a man has come into our movement and he’s got this history of finance and banking and City of London, I’m going to be suspicious. And he’d also in the past done a few tweets supporting Israel. So I put all this together and said:

 

“Look, I can’t jump on this right away with enthusiasm.”

 

But here, several months down the line, my opinion of Rupert has improved dramatically. And I would actually say he is a great man! He seems like a great man anyway. And he’s saying all the right things. And to have a man like Rupert Lowe, who obviously appeals to a lot of people, speaks very well, he dresses properly, he looks the part, he carries himself like a leader, like a man you could imagine being Prime Minister. Having a man like that in Parliament talking, our talking points, should not be underestimated!

 

We have never, ever in the history, or post-war history of this country, had a man like Rupert Lowe in Parliament. Rupert Lowe is the first of openly ethno-nationalist MP we have had! And I am thankful for that! And I’m thankful that he speaks well. I’m thankful that he hasn’t got these skeletons in his closet, that he hasn’t got some criminal past, that he isn’t someone who was tied up in really shady shenanigans as some MPs were or are. He seems like the kind of guy that people could genuinely follow.

 

[11:42]

 

And also there is an air of authenticity about Rupert. And I’ll tell you why. Some people will doubt him, but I think he’s been on a political journey. And the reason I feel that way is if you look at him and you look at the things he’s been saying over the past few months and years, the time he spent in politics. And he isn’t a politician, that’s important. This isn’t a guy who spent his life in politics and has finally got here. This is a man who stepped up at a time in his life when he felt what most people would have felt, that he should have been winding down. The guy’s a multi-millionaire. He could have turned around and said:

 

“Look, I don’t need this. I’ve got enough money to ensure that myself, my children and my grandchildren will be looked after.”

 

He didn’t have to get involved in the fight, but he did! And he got involved in the fight and he started off in a place where, look, many people who are here today watching this stream will have started off. He started off as a bit of a Civnat. He started off as a guy who said:

 

“Look, we need to stop immigration, we do need to deport people who shouldn’t be here, the illegals, etc. But you know, lots of people come here and they can fit in, they can assimilate. And really the problem is that if people aren’t going to assimilate if they’re not going to be like us, they shouldn’t be here. And anyone can fundamentally be British, but you have to buy into who we are and respect us and speak English!”

 

He started off there. And that should be familiar to a lot of people, because a lot of us, not me! [chuckling] Look at the old documentaries, not me! But a lot of people started off there and then came to ethno-nationalism. They went on a journey. I know real people. I know some of our Regional Organisers. I know some of our guys who are our best activists who started off in the EDL [English Defence League], who started off with sort of slightly colour-blind civic nationalism, and they ended up like:

 

“We are being replaced!”

 

And some of these people are our best people. This is a familiar, real journey that gives him authenticity. This isn’t a guy who turned up yesterday and was like:

 

“Hello, fellow ethno-nationalists!”

 

Nor is it a guy who had some bizarre road to Damascus conversion from the Labour Party or the Tories. This is a guy who went on a very familiar, very authentic journey! One that I’m sure many people who are ethno-nationalists today would understand. And I know people, good friends of mine who have been in parties before, like For Britain. I know good people who have been in the EDL. I know good people who have been in parties like UKIP [UK Independence Party], who eventually woke up to ethno-nationalism and came to us. And it seems Rupert has done that. And you can actually track the tweets, you can track the change in his opinion. And I think that is really good!

 

And I think that makes him, as I said earlier, authentic. I think that makes more people believe him. I think that makes more people understand his message and say:

 

“Yes, Rupert, I started off where you started off. I started off at UKIP. I started off as a Right-wing Tory. I started off thinking this could all work if we all just learnt to live together. But now I understand we’re the indigenous people and we are being replaced.”

 

I think that’s going to make people love him even more. People like myself. I’m not saying this to just trash myself on stream or anything, but people like myself are a lot less approachable than Rupert Lowe. That’s not because I’m a bad person or I do anything particularly wrong, but I didn’t really go on that journey. I’ve been sort of sat here talking about demographics since I was 20.

 

But Rupert has gone on this journey that most people will understand. And going on this journey, speaking out, talking about indigenous Britons, talking about the fact that having a British passport doesn’t make you British. He has revitalised this movement. He has breathed new life into the ethno-nationalist movement, which was fragmented, it was fractious! It was a mixture of, if you like, sort of warlords running their own little war bands. And he’s united people behind him. And I think he’s given people hope, genuine hope! I think a lot of people were saying to themselves:

 

“Where do we go from here? Is there any realistic way of gaining power? I don’t want to join a micro party. I don’t want to be in a group that’s small and maligned, where they’re wearing face masks. Where do I go? Who do I support?”

 

You know, people have stood on an ethno-nationalist ticket, are getting 1% of the vote. Then all of a sudden, Rupert Lowe comes out. He says what he’s saying. He says it with authenticity, he says it with this sort of real purpose, and people believe! He’s breathed life into the movement, he’s revitalised it, he’s giving people hope! And it’s no surprise that 70,000 people have already signed up in a week. 70,000 people already! He had 50,000 in the first, 24 hours, another 10,000 in the next 24 hours, and over the next few days he’s had another 10,000!

 

So obviously the growth will slow off, but what a pop to get things started. 70,000 plus members!

 

[17:55]

 

And I’m going to put this into context for you, because I’ve been around the block. The BNP at its height, 14 and a half thousand members. The National Front at its height, 16 and a half thousand members. Even if you put the BNP at its height and the National Front at its height, and you plop them all together, Rupert Lowe’s members after just a week are more than double the BNP and the NF put together at their heights!

 

Now, that puts things into perspective. Never before has a man been able to make an ethno-nationalist message so mainstream! And that’s something we should applaud. That’s not something we should knock. We shouldn’t be saying:

 

“Oh, how can I pick holes in this?”

 

We should be saying, somebody in the chat saying, it’s 80,000. Everyone in the chat:

 

“It’s 80,000. Mark, it’s 80,000!”

 

Well, even better. Even better, it’s 80,000 now.

 

That eclipses the National Front and the BNP put together to an even greater degree. And that’s something we should all be happy about. You know, to say that ethno-nationalism could be more popular today than it’s ever been! Why would we be complaining? Why would we be tearing this man down? Why would we be attacking this man? For the first time in post-war history, we have this powerful ethno-nationalist party which is effectively much bigger by a huge magnitude than the National Front and the BNP put together at their heights. Brilliant! That’s a good thing!

 

And I’m going to say this is a genuine ethno-nationalist party. I’ve said this earlier, but his first tweet, the Restore Party’s first tweet was:

 

“Having a British passport doesn’t make you British!”

 

And what he’s saying here is there is something more to being British than a little booklet, a piece of paper, a rubber stamp on a form. Being British is tied to blood, to ethnicity, to your lineage! It’s tied to thousands of years of history on this soil! That is ethno-nationalism!

 

And I’m disregarding his old tweets and I’m telling you why. Because he’s been on this journey. I’m going to assess him fairly and honestly. He has come out and essentially said he’s an ethno-nationalist. And his first tweet confirmed that. It went against everything that this new “British value system” stands for. It flew in the face of Starmer, who said:

 

“He’s going to go to war with people who say things like that!”

 

He’s effectively gone to war with Starmer. We should judge him on what he does going forward, not his old tweets.

 

Let’s accept he’s been on a journey, he’s come to our position, he’s batting for us, he’s saying what needs to be said. And he is not just pulling that Overton Window by a few millimeters. He is booting that Overton Window as far to the Right as he can! And if anyone jumps up and says:

 

“Well, Mark, what about those tweets? You keep disregarding them!”

 

Well, recently he was asked if he would ban halal slaughter. He said:

 

“Yes.”

 

And people said:

 

“Well, what about kosher?”

 

And he said:

 

“Kosher!”

 

And every tweet he has sent, since then, he has said:

 

“We will ban halal and kosher slaughter.”

 

Now, I can tell you this, no Civnat party has ever said that. I remember For Britain and Marie Waters, remember them? Anne Marie Waters would go out campaigning about halal:

 

“Cruel halal slaughter!”

 

But she would never mention “kosher”. When people brought it up and said:

 

“Well, what about kosher?”

 

Her answer was always:

 

“Oh, well, this is a much smaller issue. You have to deal with the bigger issue first. The Muslim slaughterhouses are less clean, less sanitary. It’s not just about the slaughter method, it’s about this, it’s about that!”

 

She would do anything to say that she wasn’t going to ban kosher. Rupert Lowe:

 

“No, we’re banning kosher. It’s gone!”

 

Now this is something that jews would regard as “anti-semitic”. Jews would hate this! And no Civnat, Farage, Anne Marie Waters, Tommy Robinson, none of them would ever say this! So we have got to give him the benefit of the doubt. And following this, we’ve had his great policy paper.

 

Now, unusually, really scathing of policy papers and it’s usually because they’re written by people who don’t matter.

 

You know, if you’re somebody who’s got 10 followers and you sat in your bedroom and you write a 200 page document about what you’re going to do when you get to power, you come across like a bunch of kids sat in your dad’s garden shed planning on how you’re going to build the moon base, when you get to the moon. You’re not getting there. Not being funny, you’re not getting there! You’re kids! You’re planning on building a rocket and you’re planning it all out and you’re talking about how the moon base is going to operate. It’s never going to happen when you’ve got 10 people and that’s it.

 

There’s no point writing a 200 page piece of policy. You write those kind of in-depth policy papers when you are knocking on the door of power, when you’re in Parliament. They have weight then!

 

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And this is what I’ve always said, if you go back over all of my old streams, I have been consistent on this navel gazing desire to write:

 

“The best hundred page policy document on immigration, or the Green Agenda?”

 

Waste of everyone’s time. Absolute waste of everyone’s time! Unless you’re an MP and you have some clout. And this policy paper published by Rupert Lowe. Fantastic! Fantastic! One of the best I’ve ever read. You know, you got to give this man a pat on the back.

 

And look, I’m going to be really honest now. This where we are today with Rupert Lowe. 80,000 members, a genuine ethno-nationalist party with an MP at the helm is where we should be. This is where the BNP should have been today. The BNP should be where Restore is today. And if the BNP had had a credible leader, if it had been run correctly, maybe we could have been. But we weren’t. It went down in 2010, it was dead in 2014! It couldn’t really be resurrected then. That was when it was knocked down so heavily in 2010, it never really got up.

 

But the last life left the BNP in 2014, when the last seat was lost in European Parliament, in one of the most humiliating ways imaginable. This is where we could have been, it’s where we should have been, and it’s where we would have been if we’d have done things right.!

 

And looking at this, to me, in some ways it feels like we’ve kind of got this second chance. It feels like many of us felt that the last real chance was in the 2000s with the BNP. And here we are in 2026 and it’s almost like we’ve been granted this second chance, this second chance of a proper ethno-nationalist party. And for that I am thankful.

 

And this is the thing. Rupert has a real credible chance of getting people elected. Let’s not ignore that! He has a real chance of getting people elected. This is not a micro party. This is not a party that has double or triple digit membership numbers. This is a genuine political party.!

 

And this takes me on to another one of the good points of all this. And this is a bit of a patented Mark Collett, “I told you so”. But Rupert Lowe has proved me right over the micro parties.

 

Now, for the past few years, I have said that all of these Right-wing micro parties are a terrible thing! They are a waste of time! They needed to be wiped away. And I’ve also said that they’re run by these narcissistic fools who have to be leader. They have to be the main character in the story. You know, they’ve got a severe case of main character syndrome. And I said these micro parties will never, ever get anywhere. All they will be is these squabbling tiny groups that get absolutely drugged in elections, but keep conning their few supporters into believing that they are one day going to be a Parliamentary party. But Rupert Lowe has just swept them away in the stroke of a pen, he’s destroyed them all. And that’s actually what I predicted. If people look back and remember, I said some time ago that one of the great weaknesses of the micro party is as soon as a man with a bigger following and a larger purse comes along the micro parties are effectively dead. And they are! And this is good.

 

And it’s good because now ethno-nationalists can stop wasting their time. These parties needed to be wiped off the map. They needed to be shown up for what they are. And ethno-nationalists can do proper work now. They can either get involved with Restore. So if you’re in one of these micro parties and you want to get elected, get involved with Restore.

 

And if you want to be part of a street movement, get involved with a street movement. But don’t sit there following some jumped up little failed narcissist around, thinking that your party of 12 people is going to get to where Rupert Lowe is, because you’re not! You know, you’ve spent three, four years getting 250 members. He’s got 80,000 in a week! Let’s be real.!

 

And the reason this is in the good section of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly is because this is a wake up call. This is a slap around the face. It’s a cold bucket of water chucked over your head in the morning that gets you out of bed, on your feet. This is what nationalism needed for many reasons. This has proved me right, which I’m happy about, but it’s what we needed. Our people needed to see and to understand that wasting our time getting 1% in council elections was an absolute farce! It was a humiliation ritual! Let’s draw a line under it and let’s call out any of the people still operating these micro parties.

 

You know, and that doesn’t just count for ethno-nationalists, it also counts for civic nationalists. You know, it’s not just these ethno-nationalist micro parties that are doing it.

 

There’s also David Kurten and the Heritage Party. David, if you’re watching, I really like you. I think you’re a funny guy. I’d have you on my show. If I met you. I’d shake you by the hand. I think a lot of what you say makes real sense, but come on, mate, the Heritage Party are not getting to power. You’ve been eclipsed in less than a week, easily. You know, you’re somewhere there and Rupert somewhere up there. It’s time to close them down. We don’t need UKIP anymore. We don’t need the Heritage Party. We don’t need the NRP or the BNP or Homeland. All these parties have been rendered useless overnight. That’s a good thing. If we’re into politics, if we’re into electoral politics we need to get behind the most likely organisation to win!

 

Because if you’re not behind the most likely organisation to win, you’re actually in a very real way part of the problem.

 

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Now, I said earlier, this moves the Overton Window, and it does. But it moves it in a way it’s never been moved before. It’s one thing for large groups of people to say things, it’s one thing for people like myself or somebody like Nick Griffin or somebody in the BNP to say these things. It’s different though, even for celebrities. You know, you might have something like John Cleese say:

 

“London isn’t English anymore!”

 

Well, great! I’m pleased he said that. But for a sitting MP to say this and to say this with Parliamentary privilege, this is a game changer! People don’t understand how important this is. We have never had an ethno-nationalist MP before.

 

And this is not just an ethno-nationalist MP, but it’s an ethno-nationalist MP who is independently wealthy, doesn’t need to go to people for funding. I mean, apparently the guy made something like 34 million. I think I heard him say that in an interview of one particular share deal. Well, this guy’s got so much money he could look after his family for the rest of their natural lives. For the rest of his grandkids natural lives, probably his great grandchildren several generations onward, and still fund this party without even noticing the money’s gone. This guy could effectively run a campaign that would easily eclipse the BNP’s best campaign and he wouldn’t know the money had gone. This is a good thing. This is a very good thing for the Overton Window. And it justifies all our points.

 

For years people like myself have been on the outside, locked out, hidden away, not allowed to speak, called Mad Men. Well, we were right all along. And this guy is justifying that. And he’s making our points not from a position of weakness where we make our points, but from a position of strength. And when these points are made from a position of strength and authority, they carry more weight. This is a good thing.

 

But there is one final thing I want to talk about that’s really good! I remember sitting in on Sam Melia’s trial when Sam Melia was stitched up! And I’ll tell you this, the thing the barrister said to him when he was questioning, everything was belittled:

 

“Well, who in the mainstream holds your views? You’re just a madman! The people you look up to are strange people who stream online. No one in the establishment feels this way. You’re so far from the mainstream that you’re a threat to us all, Sam Melia!”

 

Well, if Sam Melia was on trial today, things would be different. Nationalists who go on trial will not be faced with the question of:

 

“Why are you a freak, an outlier, an extremist?”

 

Because you can just fire back:

 

“Well, if I’m an extremist, so is Rupert Lowe, a sitting MP, and so are his 80,000 members!”

 

All of a sudden, this is different. He’s got the level of membership now that the Lib-Dems have. This is massive! And it gives us legitimacy, it gives us protection and it will also change the way the courts, the police and the CPS treat us. Because the things that I’ve been saying on these streams for years are now being said in Parliament. This is good!

 

And anyone that’s poo-pooing this, anyone that’s saying:

 

“Oh, it’s not really this!”

 

Look, forget it! That isn’t going to wash. You can’t argue against the positives of Rupert Lowe. You can’t argue against the way he’s putting over our arguments. And you can’t argue with over the fact this will offer us protection and it will also allow people who were scared to speak, the strength to speak. Don’t underestimate that either. There are going to be lots of people who’ve always felt this way but never said it, because the only person saying it was Mark Collett or Nick Griffin or John Tyndall.

 

But now the man saying is a sitting MP, the former chairman of Southampton Football Club, a multi-millionaire, a farmer, a man of the people! This is important. And it may well do for us what politicians have done elsewhere in the world, for different White countries, White nations, that now are waking up en masse and talking about things they weren’t before, because people in positions of power are saying what the people think and that gives the people strength. All of this is good and I’m hoping it will bring more people to our thinking.

 

Because this is all part of what I would call “The Great Awakening”. All of this is part of a process of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe hopefully millions of White Britons waking up to the reality of ethnicity, race, nation and the importance of bloodlines, lineage and not being replaced! And that’s what we’re all about. Remember, the goal here isn’t to have the biggest micro party. The goal here isn’t to be the last surviving tiny nationalist organisation to rule them all. The goal here is to wake people up, to make change and to ensure a future for our people.

 

And that means either A) making sure we aren’t replaced, or B), making sure that we have communities, that we have our own power bases if we are replaced and become minorities in certain areas of the country, depending on how things go forward. So that’s the good of I think there’s plenty of good there.

 

But with the good, the bad and the ugly, there’s also the bad and the ugly. And we’re going to start now with the bad for everything I’ve just said, these are early days, very early days! It’s less than a week old, and when you’re going through the early days, things always seem good. This is what you would call the honeymoon phase. This is the point where everyone is giving Rurpert Lowe the benefit of the doubt. It’s the point where everyone who wants to believe will think the best of Rupert Lowe. It’s the point where everything is fresh, where we can shoot for the moon, we can go all the way to the top. We can win everything, because we’ve never been tested. It’s like when an army marches off to war singing songs, believing that by Christmas the war will be over. They’re so sure of themselves. And before the first shots are fired, there is that feeling that anything can be achieved. And unfortunately, that isn’t reality. Unfortunately, there is a long fight ahead.

 

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And at the moment, as we sing songs and march off together talking about how the glorious victory is on the horizon, Restore and Rupert are yet to fight the first battle. The first engagement hasn’t even happened. And whilst the guys marching off under his banner are singing songs now, they might not be singing songs quite as loudly or harmoniously when first contact occurs. When that first battle occurs, often morale changes dramatically.

 

And sometimes the first battle goes well and people will be like:

 

“Mark, I remember your stream when you said when the first battle comes, things may change!”

 

Sometimes you can be on the up. The BNP was on the up for 10 years when it finally got its knock, when it was finally knocked down, when it finally met its match, the damage done was so catastrophic it couldn’t recover. So bear in mind, we are in a honeymoon period. Things feel good now. There’s hope, People are buzzing.

 

But all of that masks problems that lie beneath the surface, that veneer of:

 

“Yes, we can do this! Yes, 80,000! Yes, ethno-nationalism! Yes, great interviews on TV! Yes, that tweet about being British being tied to ethnicity and to a lineage!”

 

All of that is making this honeymoon so good! And people are filled with all this hope. But that’s the honeymoon period. And later down the line, the marriage might not be as rosy as the honeymoon period. And I use the word “marriage” there for a very specific reason. A very specific reason, because Rupert Lowe is involved in a marriage of sorts. Rupert Lowe is bringing together many disparate groups. There are many factions uniting under Rupert’s banner to march off to war together. It is a courage of so many different supporters. You have just to name three. Tommy Robinson, you have Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin, you have Steve Laws and Zoomer. But that’s a toxic brew! That Steve Laws is a great guy, by the way. I’m not knocking Steve here. There are good people, good people supporting Rupert like Steve Laws.

 

But there are people that we wouldn’t like as much. You have the arch super Zionist Civnat football hooligan Tommy Robinson! Who for years has run his grift and worked for Israel. You have Carl Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad who is dipping his toe into ethno-nationalism. But this man was a libertarian. This man was a race blind Civnat who believed that fundamentally anyone could be British if they subscribed to our value system. And you’ve got people like Steve Laws, who is a re-migration absolutist.

 

“Everyone must go! Every last one must go!”

 

Are these people gonna play nicely together? Are these people going to form an organisation together that will be stable? Or are they going to be factional rifts?

 

And like I said, they might all play nicely together on the honeymoon. They might all march off towards that first conflict singing songs together and not holding grudges. But when those first shots are fired and things don’t go so well, will they play nicely then? Will they be still singing in harmony? Will the marriage work when the couple come back from the honeymoon and realise that maybe whilst it was all good when they were sitting in the Bahamas drinking cocktails and enjoying the White Sandy beaches, their relationship doesn’t work as well when they’re back in rainy England in a little box having to do a 9 to 5 job, look after screeching children [chuckling] and keep the house, keeping the house tidy and paying the bills, things change. And things change a lot when organisations go through their growing pains. And I think there’s a lot there.

 

And I said a long time ago on the Farage versus Lowe stream, I said one problem that Lowe may have is he may surround himself. And this exact term I use was with a “toxic witch’s brew” of influencers, grifters and other ne’er-do-wells who all want a piece of him and want to drag him in different directions. And he’s been on an interview already with Sargon of Akkad, with Carl Benjamin. He’s on the Lotus Eaters! Well, how did that work out for poor old Gerard Batten? Remember, there is slight precedent for this. There is precedent for everyone getting behind a new leader to take on Farage. They all got behind Gerard Batten and it was a disaster! It went down like the Titanic. It was the Hindenburg of political experiments. It went down in flames. UKIP were completely destroyed. Nigel Farage stomped them so hard that he won the European election with the Brexit Party and left UKIP without a single seat. And he did that with the vote being split. Don’t forget that.

 

And remember, when you have all these people on board, when you have all of these different groups on board, when you have this witch’s brew, how is Rupert Lowe to respond to this? Who is he going to side with? How is he going to wave away the indiscretions? How is he going to wave away Tommy’s criminal past, his football hooliganism, all of the things that he’s involved in that put normal people off voting for him? And normal people won’t vote for Tommy. Tommy stood for elections and it was a disaster! How is he going to wave away Sargon’s indiscretions? Sargon, the man who famously sent rape tweets to Jess Phillips! I’m sort of quoting the media there. I’m not saying he actually did that allegedly, but that’s what the media said. Sargon’s also had some fruity interviews that people love quoting.

 

Rupert’s gonna have to answer for all of this, but he’s also going to have to answer for other people. If he teams up with Steve Laws, he’s going to have to answer why Steve says that every last person must go, even if they’ve got a drop of blood that isn’t White British. He’s going to have to answer for everyone’s comments.

 

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And this is one of the reasons I haven’t got involved. This is one of the reasons I didn’t join up, because I don’t want him to have to answer for Young Nazi and Proud and all the things that I’ve said. [chuckling] I don’t want him to have to answer for what Mark Collett has said in the past. Because that’s not fair! And I actually do want him to be successful.

 

But all these people who are jumping on board with him, or some of them might not actually want him to be successful. They might be riding his coattails. They might be thinking, what can they get out of that? And really, you have here a very unstable support base, and you’re already seeing the beginning of infighting between these different supporters. You’ve got the Civnats already saying they wouldn’t sit with the people who support Steve Laws and Zoomer. You’ve got people like Tommy who will want to drag Rupert down the Zionist route. And there’s lots of people supporting Rupert who are ardent anti-zionists. And already they are saying:

 

“We don’t want Rupert having a Friends of Israel group.”

 

There are going to be some serious fractures in this when we get past the honeymoon period. Bringing people together who have such disparate views and who take their, what may be relatively small differences to those looking from the outside in, but they take those differences very seriously. This is going to be hard to manage. Holding his support base together is going to be very difficult.

 

And look, Nigel Farage gets accused of a lot of things. He gets accused of cucking all of the time. He gets accused of selling people out. He gets accused of throwing people under the bus, because he does! Nigel Farage disassociates with people when they use racial slurs or when they express openly Nazi views. He throws people under the bus when people say things which would be perceived as scary or racist. And we all have a go at him for that. We all say:

 

“Look, Nigel, you’re a cuck! You’re a man who won’t stick up for his own supporters, his own party members!”

 

And to that, well, I’m going to say this. Let’s look at both sides of this argument.

 

So on one hand, you hear me going on a BBC interview and I don’t throw anyone under the bus. I defend them all. And I smile and laugh in the face of the BBC reports. I’m like:

 

“I’m not kicking this guy out. He’s my friend. He’s got a right to his opinion! So what if he said this? I don’t care!”

 

And I can say that because I’m Mark Collett and I’m in charge of Patriotic Alternative. But Patriotic Alternative is not an electoral party. We are not a party that has to do well in elections to continue doing what we’re doing.

 

However, Nigel Farage is in charge of Reform. And Reform is graded on one thing alone. It’s graded on its electoral success. That is what every party is graded on. There is nothing else. It’s electoral success or nothing. I’ve said this before. There is one thing worse, sometimes for political parties than losing. There’s one thing worse than losing an election, and it can be winning an election. Because when you win an election, you have to do even better at the next election.

 

And that was one of the problems that hurt the BNP. I always remember the BNP started doing really well and then everyone expected it to do even better at the next elections. Sometimes it did. But when the BNP stumbled and things didn’t go so well, people left, people abandoned the party, people got dispirited and walked away. The problem with winning in the short term is you raise the bar for yourself. It’s like basically saying:

 

“Well, I want to be the world record high jumper. I want to be the best high jumper in the world.”

 

Well, at first it’s easy because you’re getting over the bar with relative ease, but the higher you jump, the higher you have to jump to keep impressing people. It’s the same with party politics. And Farage, he may be a cuck, but when he goes on television, people can’t credibly call him a Nazi, or a racist. When he goes on television, he doesn’t have to answer for what 2, 3, 4 dozen people have said on Facebook and Twitter because he kicked them out. And yeah, he’s a cuck, he’s a cuck!

 

But I remember when I was in the BNP, and I remember every time there was an interview, every time Nick Griffin went on an interview, Nick Griffin had to answer for what dozens of people had said. He had to answer for Mark Collett and Young Nazi and Proud. He had to answer for Tony Lecomber and Tony Lecomber’s ill spent youth where he took a oversized firework to a Left-wing bookshop with the intention of blowing it up. You know, they called him Tony the Bomber Lecomber!

 

And I’m not having to go at Tony, but what I am saying is Nick had to answer for him. Nick had to answer for me. He had to answer for numerous people. I remember in the run up to one of the local elections, one of the newspapers ran a headline called “All Women All Nazis” and it was basically a front page that pictured all the women who stood for the BNP that had said or done slightly fruity things.

 

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And then somebody has to go, whether it was Nick Griffin or Simon Darby. Somebody has to go on TV and answer that. And it meant every one of your interviews was maybe 20 minutes long. And it was 15 minutes of answering:

 

“Well, this Nazi said, this racist said this!”

 

And it made the party far less electable than it could have been. Now, to the credit of the BNP, we stood by our people and we didn’t cuck. But the party doesn’t exist anymore. Nigel Farage does cuck. And it’s very hard for them to call him a racist, or a Nazi. And because of that, he’s far more electable. Because the British people are scared of terms like racist and Nazi. People say:

 

“Oh, well, I’m not scared of it anymore. People are less scared than they used to be.”

 

Well, maybe not. But this does make a difference. And I’ve been there, I’ve seen it, I’ve lived it, I know it! And this brings us to the next point. And people are going to be very upset that I’m saying this, but this is a warts and all breakdown.

 

Let’s discuss the Nazi question!

 

At some point, Rupert Lowe is going to be held up, and he is going to have to answer for someone in his party who has supported Hitler, who has called somebody a racial slur, somebody who said that they wish the outcome of the Second World War was different. Maybe somebody who said:

 

“Well, we need a man like the Austrian painter today, because if he was going to invade Britain today, I certainly wouldn’t be Manning the gun turrets. I’d be pointing him all the way to Downing Street!”

 

People will say that! They say it in Reform, [chuckling] so they’re gonna say it in Rupert Lowe’s party! Because Rupert is going to take a lot of people that Reform wouldn’t take. That’s a fact. And Rupert Lowe is going to have to go on TV at some point and answer for people in his organisation that have said things like that, in his party that have said things like that. How will he react? Will he cuck? I don’t know. Will he not cuck? I don’t know. But I’ll tell you one thing. When people go down this party political route, the pressure to sell out and to cuck and to chuck your friends under the bus is huge! Because there’s always somebody stood behind the curtain whispering in your ear:

 

“If you just get rid of them, people will get on board! If you just stop saying this, people will get on board! If you just remove paragraph 2 of your statement on deportation, people will get on board! If you just get rid of your forced repatriation policy and make it voluntary, people will get on board!”

 

And the BNP went through that. The BNP dropped things. The BNP dropped its forcd repatriation policy under, was it Nick Griffin or was it John Tyndall? I can’t remember. I think it was Nick Griffin and the forced repatriation. Yeah, it was under Nick Griffin. Nick Griffin dropped the forced repatriation policy because it was deemed to be unfair, unjust and the public couldn’t get behind it. He said:

 

“Look, we do need people going back, but it has to be done on a voluntary paid basis! A voluntary paid basis because we can’t sell to the people that we’re going to go door to door dragging people out the house.”

 

This was Nick Griffin in the BNP. So what’s Rupert Lowe going to do? How’s he going to answer these questions now? My answer is, I don’t know! I can’t tell you, because I can’t. I’m good at making predictions, but I don’t have a crystal ball that gives me the exact future. But when he’s on TV, when he’s got that desire for more members, when he’s got that desire for an extra 0.5% on the vote, when he wants to go even mains more mainstream than he has, the pressure will be poured on him. Nigel Farage caved into that pressure and it has undoubtedly worked for Nigel Farage. The BNP didn’t, we didn’t. We were more hardcore, we were more principled. We stuck by our people. And PA absolutely sticks by its people!

 

But the fact is the BNP never achieved what it could have achieved. Two MEPs was the high point. A member of the GLA. All we ever achieved was big wins in proportional representation elections. We never won big First Past the Post elections. And that’s going to hurt people’s feelings! But it’s true! Look it up! You can get mad at what I’m saying, it can upset you, what I’m saying. You can download the video, but what I’m saying is true!

 

Now, as I said earlier, this is why I haven’t joined.

 

This is why I don’t want to be involved. I support the guy, I like what he’s saying. But if Mark Collett got involved and Rupert Lowe had to answer for what member number 80, 256 said, and member number 80, 256 said:

 

“I’m drawn to a racially pure White society!”

 

I said that in an interview with a newspaper when I was in my early 20s, probably about 20 years old, maybe 21. I said on TV, I made jokes about things that I probably shouldn’t have joked about. They were silly, they were crass, they were embarrassin, looking back on them! I don’t want Rupert to have to answer for that. And I don’t want him to have to, every time he goes on TV they say:

 

“Well, what about Mr. Young Nazi and Proud? What about him, eh? What are you gonna do about him?”

 

But he’s gonna have to do that with someone else, and thankfully it ain’t gonna be me and we’ll see how we react. But if I was a betting man, which I’m not, I’d say there’ll be more cucking than a lot of people now will like to think there will be. Because the allure of power and the allure of going mainstream is usually too great for most people. And once you’re in that party political sphere, even if you’re the BNP, there is some cucking!

 

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Now, the next point of the bad is, can he actually succeed with this ethno-nationalist argument?

 

Now, I was talking about this earlier night on PWR with Hugh Anthony. There is this sort of feeling that as things get worse, which they are doing, as more migrants come here, more people are going to vote for an ethno-nationalist alternative. And that might be true, but as more migrants come here, inevitably there is more integration. There are 21 million people living in Britain who are not classified as White British, so have some kind of migrant background. And unfortunately this is a hard pill to swallow. So get your glass of toxic blue energy drink, get your cup of tea, whatever you need to help you swallow the pill, because it’s coming.

 

Unfortunately, many White Britons are more bothered about how they will be perceived by their one non-White friend, non-White family member, non-White work colleague, than they are about the future of their own race.

 

This is because we have this suicidal empathy. We have a problem as a people. We are more bothered about the feelings of our one of the one non-White outlier that we like than we are about the future of our people. Now that’s not the people here tonight, that’s not the people watching this stream because we are the die hard ethno-nationalists, the people who find Mark Collett on Rumble and Odysee, even though he’s banned on everywhere else. But we are outliers. And Rupert Lowe has got to sort, has got to sell that to the public. Can it be sold? Yes, there are more people than ever angry about immigration, but there are more people than ever before with mixed race family members, with nephews and nieces and grandsons and granddaughters and daughters who have married black men and sons who have gone to Thailand and brought back a Thai bride. There are more people than ever before who have a non-White friend. These are problems that Rupert Lowe will have to face.

 

And why am I saying this? Why am I bringing this up when I talked about it the other night? I’m bringing this up because there’s a lot of people who support Rupert Lowe’s that are real ideologues and say:

 

“Look, not one drop, not one member, not one person!”

 

Well, I’m going to tell you now, Rupert Lowe will have non-White people in the party. Rupert Lowe will have people standing for him who are not White British. That is going to happen. And this is going to be interesting because there’s a lot of people in our movement, there’s a lot of ethno-nationalists who have said over the last few years:

 

“Look, there’s Farage with another non-White candidate. There’s a Pakistani candidate standing for Reform, there’s an Indian candidate standing for Reform, there’s a White woman standing for Reform. And look, she’s got a black husband and three mixed race children!”

 

There is a real likelihood that Rupert Lowe will do this as well. And at this point, how are people going to react? Are people going to say:

 

“Yeah, we’re going to forgive that.”

 

Or are they going to react to him in the same way that they reacted to Farage? Are they going to react to him in the same hostile way? Are they going to start calling him a cuck and nagging him and throwing mud at him? Or are they just going to get their head down and carry on? Because this is going to happen.

 

And it’s going to happen for several reasons. Because firstly, I don’t think Rupert Lowe is a racist. I think black man came to Rupert Lowe and said he wanted to stand for him. I don’t think Rupert Lowe would have a bad word to say to him, number one.

 

And secondly, it would be illegal to stop those people coming forward and standing as candidates anyway. And if you were found to be stopping candidates from standing solely on the basis of their race, you’d be in big trouble and your party would likely be deregistered and you would be facing a massive lawsuit from the Equalities Commission. So this is going to happen. How will people deal with it? I don’t know!

 

Now the next thing I want to talk about, which is the bad, is how Rupert is going to sell re-migration. And this is a big issue because, look, I believe in re-migration, but I’m not one of these people who goes around parroting “re-migration is inevitable”. Remigration is absolutely not inevitable.

 

And when you look at what Trump’s done in America, the few deportations that have actually happened over there, the hostile environment that is perceived to have been built against migrants, it’s actually scared the crap out of lots of White people! At one point, Whites were like:

 

“Yeah, we need to do some deportations!”

 

You see one Somalian family on the news with handcuffs on being led off, and all of a sudden, half the White people who wanted deportations are terrified! You got people like Joe Rogan who were like:

 

“Yeah, we need to sort this country out! Oh, my God, Trump’s going too far. This is like Hitler 2.0!”

 

What I’m saying here is Rupert Lowe has to not only get over the Nazi issue, the cucking issue, has to bring all these disparate groups together and make them play nice, but he also has to sell something that does, to some degree, scare people. And when it gets implemented and people see the reality of it scares some people who voted for it. And I’ve likened this to making an omelet. There are people out there that will go to the chef and say:

 

“I want an omelette. Please make me a large omelette!”

 

And the chef’s like:

 

“Sure.”

 

Starts breaking the eggs.

 

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And then the guys order the omelettes in tears:

 

“Oh, what are you doing? What are you doing? They’re breaking all these eggs. It’s bloody terrible. Stop breaking the eggs!”

 

“But you wanted the omelet.”

 

“Yeah, I want the omelette.”

 

“Well, I need to break the eggs.”

 

“But I don’t want any eggs getting broken!”

 

You’d be a madman. But that’s how White people behave. I’m not talking about you guys in the chat. I’m not talking about the good ethno-nationalists here. I’m talking about the people who’ve been infected with the disease of suicidal empathy. Look:

 

“There’s a load of migrant rapists down there. Deport them!”

 

“Right, let’s get the handcuffs on, boys.”

 

“What are you handcuffing families for?”

 

“Well, you said deport them.”

 

“Well, there’s a woman there who’s been handcuffed.”

 

“Yeah, she’s the wife of one of the guys that was raping the little girls, and she helped cover it up. She gave false evidence in court.”

 

“Yeah, but she’s a woman and she’s pregnant. Oh!”

 

“So what? Get rid of them!”

 

And you’ve got to remember Rupert Lowe again. They should have gone in the good section, is a principled guy. One of the reasons he fell out with Farage is both him and Farage agreed that people who had groomed and sexually abused White girls must be deported. But Rupert went further and said:

 

“We’re not just deporting the ones who did the grooming and committed the crimes. We’re going to deport the communities and the families that were accomplices, that covered for it, that sheltered this, that knew about it and didn’t report it to the police.”

 

I agree with him! Brilliant! Amazing policy. And Farage. Screw you for not supporting that! Screw you, Farage, for being a sellout! But unfortunately, re-migration is not inevitable. It’s a hard sell at times because our people are so bloody weak! This is an issue. It’s an issue he will face.

 

And it’s not just an issue when it comes to the ballot box. It’s an issue when it comes to people like Tommy Robinson. When it comes to people like Sargon. What’s Sargon gonna say if Rupert Lowe says:

 

“We need to start handcuffing families.”

 

You know, just the other day, Tommy Robinson was outside the Iranian embassy talking about how we need more Iranians here because the Iranian community, community in Britain is brilliant! Well, no, it’s not. No, it’s not, Tommy! Iranian nationalists and Iranian nationals living in Britain are 18 times more likely to be arrested for sexual crimes than White British men. 18 times! We don’t need them here. Tommy would be crying. He’d be weaponizing his supporters. If Rupert Lowe really embarked on a proper campaign of re-migration, a lot of his support base, their knees would start trembling, because we have a mental disease as a people! Our empathy, which should be solely focused on people within our group, has been spread to everyone!

 

So now we’re more empathetic to other people than we are our own people. We have more empathy for the communities that do horrible things to us than we do to the White victims of those foreign communities! Now, what I’m saying is not a lie. It’s true. This is how it works.

 

Unfortunately, Rupert Lowe is going to have to overcome this. And this is not just a problem he’ll have to overcome with the electorate, but with people within his own ranks.

 

Now, the final part of the bad is this. 80,000 members, it seems like a lot, but the Green Party have over 170,000 members, and they only get 9% of the vote. He’s got less than half of what the Green Party have got. What’s that going to get him? 4%? Maybe more, maybe less. I don’t know. People might say they’ll end up with 170,000 members by the next general election. Great! But 9% of the vote wouldn’t cut it. Maybe getting one or two seats nationwide. A lot of what we’re seeing now is talk on social media, talk on YouTube, and it can be a bubble! It can be this horrible situation where you think you have more support than you do.

 

I remember and I’ve spoke to Steve Laws about this today. He’s given me permission to use this as an example. I’m not negging Steve. We’re going to talk more about this later, actually, but I’m going to introduce this now. Steve Laws, hundreds of thousands of followers across different social media platforms, yet when he stands in election, he gets just over 1%.

 

Now, that’s not to knock Steve. Steve’s a fantastic guy! And Steve bloody deserved to win those elections. He’d have made a great councillor and a great MP. But often you can have millions of followers, you could have thousands of people sign up and you can think everything is gonna go well. But it doesn’t result in much. Tommy Robinson can put 300,000 people on the streets, but when he stood in election, he got nowhere. He failed dismally.

 

Gerard Batten, look at all the influencers he got on board. Look at the social media imprint he built. Absolutely smashed! Things that happen on X don’t necessarily transfer to the real world. It wasn’t that long ago that the Homeland Party were being bigged up and everyone was like:

 

“Look the re-migration is going to begin soon!”

 

They got trashed. They got the most embarrassing results any ethno-nationalist party has ever got in local council elections. And that was when everyone was talking them up. The problem is, we get so close to this. We get so when you’re so close to something and you focus so much on something that’s right in front of you, you can’t see the big picture.

 

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And also, when you’re close to something, perspective makes you believe it’s bigger than it really is. You end up only speaking to the people who tell you:

 

“Well, I’m voting for you, mate. I’m on board. This tweet’s got 40,000 likes. That’s going to get us over the line!”

 

It doesn’t work like that. It didn’t work like that in the BNP. Back in the day you could get a meeting going in part of Leeds and there’d be so many people that there was standing room only. You would be out on the street, people would be beeping their horn. Everyone was voting for you down the Working Men’s Club. And you got 20%. And labour won the vote with like 45%. They won it easily.

 

The problem is you don’t speak to everyone. You speak to people within your bubble. And when it comes down to it, there’s going to be all these pressures. There’s going to be these disparate supporters. You’re going to have the dirty members, the Nazis. There’s going to be pressure on him to clean his party up. There’s going to be pressure on him. There’s going to be the kosher money, the jewish influence.

 

Now there’s people like me who’ve been doing this for 26 years. I’ve never cucked! But where am I today? [chuckling] I mean not to rubbish myself, but I’m nowhere. I’m sat on Rumble and Odysee, you know, streaming to 500 people! Now that’s what not cucking gets you. I can go to sleep with a clean conscience and a smile on my face because I’ve never cucked, and I’ve always talked about the important things. But I’m not getting elected to Parliament, am I? And this is gonna be a big issue. Men are easily corrupted! And at the moment he’s doing a good job of not being corrupted. But when he gets the tap on the shoulder, are we going to see the purges? Are we going to see the multiracial candidate slates? Are we going to see the Restore Friends of Israel? I hope not. I hope not! He is going to have to do some of those things. He will have non-White candidates, but I hope he doesn’t go down this route that I’ve just laid out.

 

But I think to some degree he will because he’s going to be pulled in that direction by people who are part of his supporter base. And that supporter’s base is somewhat of a toxic witch’s brew.

 

So that’s the bad! So are you guys ready for the ugly?

 

Because there is an ugly.

 

And what is going to be the ugliest part of this is the fight between Rupert Lowe and Restore and Nigel Farage and Reform. That fight is going to be the most bitter and horrible thing you can imagine. There will be all sorts of dirty Tricks. There will be stolen membership lists, there will be people emailing people using those membership. There’ll be all sorts, all sorts of nasty games!

 

And I’ll tell you this now, the bitterness and the hatred between those two parties will eclipse the bitterness and hatred those two parties have for Labour and the Tories. Restore and Reform will spend more time fighting each other than they will fighting the Reds. And I know this because I have seen splits in nationalism. I’ve lived through them. I’ve seen the hatred they build.

 

And we saw this when Homeland split away from PA, there was people in Homeland, and I’ve been told this by an ex-Homeland member who I met the other weekend and reconciled with at the Warwick demo. And he said to me:

 

“One of the things that never sat easily with him was the amount of people in that organisation who spent the majority of their time creating fake profiles to spread rumours about PA.”

 

They spent more time doing that than they did actually campaigning for Homeland. That’s one of the reasons it failed.

 

There was one guy who was particularly bitter and nasty and he would spend his evenings ringing around our young members saying:

 

“Look, I know you’re gonna stay with PA and I’m cool with that, but I just I’m not saying you should come to Homeland, but PA are going to be banned in two weeks. We’ve had a big tip off, and I’m just letting you know because I don’t want you getting arrested and being part of a banned organisation!”

 

Well, that never happened. But that’s the kind of horribleness that goes on. And when that horribleness goes on, it doesn’t actually benefit either of the parties that are engaged in it.

 

In fact, most people who are exposed to that kind of infighting and negativity will end up just leaving the movement altogether. They just leave both parties because they didn’t get involved for that. Most normal people don’t get involved to be embroiled in this horrible, horrible infighting! That’s just how it is.

 

And unfortunately, we’re already seeing that because people have been celebrating all weekend:

 

“There are new Restore Party councillors. There are new., …”

 

Well, they’re not. They’re just Reform Party councillors that have gone to Restore. There hasn’t been a single new Restore Party candidate voted in, not a single actual victory. All there’s been is Reform going to Restore.

 

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So the number of populist Right councillors has remained exactly the same. People are just saying:

 

“Oh, well, we took some off you. We didn’t take seats from the Labour Party.”

 

Restore haven’t got three new councils elected and cost Labour three seats. Restore haven’t just taken a council away from the Tory Party and actually smashed part of the establishment. All they’ve done is pull people away from another populist Right party. And the anger here, unfortunately will be aimed more at Nigel Farage and what Reform are doing than it will be at Keir Starmer and what Keir Starmer is doing.

 

And this totally mirrors what happened in Russia when the Bolsheviks came to power. The Red Army was a united force. The White army wasn’t. The resistance to the Bolsheviks was disunited. The generals wouldn’t talk to each other, wouldn’t share information with each other, wouldn’t work together, wouldn’t fight alongside each other because they all had these little problems with each other and they lost. Rather than standing together as one. They were eaten piecemeal by the Bolsheviks and crushed. And what did that lead to? Well, we all know, and as I said all of this fighting will cause more people to drop out than it will to move over to other organisations.

 

Just look at what happened in the National Front. The National Front split in 1980 and it became the New National Front. There was another split in 1986 which became the Flag National Front. You know, at certain times there were actually two National Front paper sales on the same street in the same city centre selling a paper that talked about exactly the same issues. And the public would have been like:

 

“Didn’t I just see you down there?”

 

“No, no, they’re a totally different organisation!”

 

And that bitterness, these internal strives, these fights are things that weigh the movement down. They weigh the movement down and what they end up doing is putting more people off. Because look, we’re not normies. The people watching this stream tonight, we are not normies. That’s just not who we’re not people who have come to this movement as normal sort of hanger on people. I’m not saying we’re all weirdos or anything, but we’re just not normies. We’re not part of normal life. We, we’re deeply political people, so we’re going to stick with it no matter what. But normal people who say:

 

“Look, I’m finally getting involved!”

 

They don’t get involved to hear about infighting and that.

 

“Actually this guy over here who’s standing for this party, that’s kind of like us, he’s the real bad guy!”

 

They hate this! And this always happened in the BNP. Whenever there was any infighting, the people who emerged as the winners, always emerged to rule over a depleted and damaged organisation. That’s just how it is.

 

And whilst this war is kicking off, whilst Restore are going toe to toe with Reform, actually the opposite’s happening on the Left. The Left are sticking together. Labour are going into partnership with the Greens to lock out a populist Right-wing government.

 

And what we’re seeing here is at a crucial time in our history, the Right-wing, which is often prone to these splits, is having one of these splits. And the ugliest part of this is Restore could actually end up stopping Reform from winning a general election. They could fight each other to a standstill or Reform could stop Restore. They’ll end up fighting each other to a standstill.

 

Now, let’s have a look at this. Let’s have a look at reality. In 99, 2000, we made up, White Britons, made up 90% of the population in Britain. By 2024, 2025, we made up 70% of the population in Britain. Over 25 years, a quarter of a century, our share of the population declined by 20%, 0.8% per year.

 

Now, I believed that the last real chance to turn things around was the BNP in the 2000s.

 

But we’ve been thrown this last, last chance now. And that’s what was being built at the last, last, last, last, last chance we’ll ever have! But I’ll tell you this infighting could blow it and it could grant Labour five more years of power.

 

Now, look, if we went from 90% to 70% in 25 years, well, 25 years from now, we’ll be a minority. And five more years of Labour would take us to 2034. We’d only have 16 years left.

 

And at that point we’d have more immigrants voting against us, more people married to immigrants, more integration, more people who are depressed. It would be harder to do it further down the line. The closer you get to a minority, the harder it is to do it. The more multiracial, the more multicultural you become, the harder it is to do things.

 

I was looking at the next general election and I had three objectives at that next general election. And I honestly, I wanted Reform to win the next general election general election. And I wanted them to win for three reasons. Not because I love Nigel Farage, not because I thought that they would bring about a government I would actually want to see, but for three reasons.

 

Firstly, I wanted them to smash the old parties. I wanted them to mortally wound Labour in White working class areas. And I wanted them to destroy the Conservative Party for good. Because the Conservative Party has been the party which has held nationalists back post Second World War. Every time Nationalist parties have got big, the Conservatives come in, talk about little bit about immigration, everyone goes and votes for them and we have lost. That is always how it has worked! I wanted them smashing!

 

The second thing, I thought Farage might have slightly slowed out a climb down. I need to buy us time. We need to buy us time. Somebody needs to buy us time. We’re on the Titanic. Water’s coming into the ship, right? We may not be able to save the vessel, but imagine if less water was coming in. That would be a good thing because it buys you time to get people to the lifeboats.

 

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